Podcast: The Ride - Epic Universe Creature Clash with Carlye Wisel

Episode Date: July 25, 2025

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comforting ice breath, horn pain, textbook sneaky walking, and a highly contentious battle to determine the best creature at Universal's Epic Universe. Carly Weisel returns to compete in the first ever Epic Universe Creature Clash on today's podcast The Ride where despite all of our podcast training and knowing how to train for podcasts, sometimes it feels like some topics are just untrainable. I'm Scott Gerdner.

There's my Carlson. Carlson. No, I just, we've trained a lot of topics, though. You have to remember. I have my I don't know if I have trained enough to be here. If you've trained, we've never talked about trains on the show. I feel like maybe I've trained for that. But today's topic, I don't think I've trained for.

No, I think you're OK. We've done a lot of these brackets before. You know, I think you forget a lot of the things you've trained for. Show me like a complex line drawn animation that kind of shows whether or not I've trained for the untrainable? Jason Sheridan, what do you think? Hi, yeah, you've been doing that voice for weeks now

since we went to Epic. Yeah, pretty much every single time. Every chance, yeah. And that is- I'm locked into this. This has become my regular voice. That is the impression of hiccup from How to Train Your Dragon.

God is it? I don't know. I haven't trained enough for this to know. I don't remember what the voice was or not. It doesn't sound like it to me. It sounds like a smile. It's Scott's regular voice now. It's just becoming that.

Yeah, right. And that's Jay Burruchel, the actor doing that voice? Yes, Berruchel. Berruchel, the actor doing that voice? Yes, Beruchel. Beruchel? Yeah, I think so. Okay. It feels like it's kind of a,

I think it lies somewhere between like an old Christian Slater impression and an overdone Owen Wilson impression. Yeah. You just kind of like crunch a little more and that's in just say the word train a lot. It's like a little Holly Hunter in there or something. Oh yeah, I think so.

Just a little bit. Well I like hearing that because that was one of my favorite impressions on Studio 60 and the in there or something. Oh yeah, I think so. Just a little bit. Well I like hearing that because that was one of my favorite impressions on Studio 60 and the Sunset Strip. Oh yeah, of course. The Holly Hunter Show. Right. That was the, I think my favorite line

from the Holly Hunter Show is when she would say, it's the Holly Hunter Show. And that was the entirety of the sketch that you saw. Right. That you saw. I keep wanting to say yeses that way. Well look, we're not here to talk about Studio 60, unfortunately.

We're here because we've now all been to Epic Universe. All three of us have been. We have done some kind of broad strokes shows about it, about Universal's, of course, insane new theme park in Orlando, Florida. But now we can get down to the nitty gritty. We can start talking about individual rides and attractions and shows, and today, creatures.

There are a lot of creatures in this place, and maybe I hadn't quite meditated on this, and that's why I'm glad that our guest is here to shine a light on this particular area. One of our favorites from the podcast, very amusing, it's Carly Wisell, hey. Hello. Hi, thank you. Hi, welcome back.

I gotta be honest, I missed the voice. I missed the voice you started with. I was like, hell yeah, we're doing Jay the whole way. Everything I said in that little preamble, everything between when I stopped doing it, and like in regular voice mode, I was fighting it back. I really was. We gotta shrink this BlackBerry.

BlackBerry's too big, Glenn Howardton Howard's going to get real mad at me. I did this. I made a bunch of, I made, I put a bunch of keys onto a little, on a wood device. Does this look like the future to you? Does my hair look real or not? It's a Blackberry. All right, well, you know, it may, it may come out

whether or not, you know, it might not, I might not have a choice in this matter. But thank you for being here, and I'm excited to talk about Epic Universe. Like, as soon as we assessed, like, okay, we've been, we can start talking about individual things. You're one of the first people we asked to, like, let's start downloading specific stuff about this place.

And while I'm excited to talk about brand new stuff here on the show, you've walked in with a scenario that's the oldest tale in the podcast, The Right Book, which you would be comfortable explaining your current state. Oh yeah, so on Friday mornings, I typically take my child to Universal Studios Hollywood. Wow.

And I did this. Every, this is the typical. Wow. Yeah, this is like a pretty typical Friday. And I, one second, I don't feel good. I ordered a veggie burger from Mel's. And let's just say I have been in intestinal distress for the past two hours.

Oh my God. I have had about five Pepto Bismol. Hmm. Popped right before we started. The burger was gray, which I was like, it's not beef, it's gonna be fine. It was not fine. And the lack of refrigeration maybe,

I mean I'm sure there's some refrigeration, but you might think you can't go awry with that, but maybe, I don't know, veggie might be a big area for theme parks to go awry, because they're not used to having to do this. I thought because there was nobody there, it would be fine. It was not, we're gonna move past it, we're gonna hope for the best.

I have both a barf bag and a sleeve of saltines in my purse. So we're ready for everything today. Wow, wow. Carly, I'm getting over a Mexican restaurant that I have ordered from since I moved to LA kind of did me and Jayden both early in the week and I- These things, your food events go for four days after the fact.

Well, with them as it goes for a while. Okay, okay. So I have been in bed for days. Jesus, Jaycee. But that's worse because you trusted this place. I knew I was starting off at oh no, because I've never gone to Mel's. Mel's has given me a few oh no's too in the past,

and I should have known better. Several oh no's, now here's one of those things where you have to start picking it apart. After one, you go back for several. You allow it to become several. You know, okay, so the first one was a chili dog from Mels. And then a couple of years later, I got a chili dog. Remember when Pink's Hot Dogs was in the park for a little while.

Yes, I believe this is all gone over with Jamie Loftus during the specific hot dog incidents. Yeah, I thought, oh, this will be a different type of hot dog. Different type of hot dog. Different type of food poisoning. Different type of food poisoning. No, it was the exact same type of food because it was the Simpsons that it was the grave that you know feeding different restaurants Carly can I ask a question? Tell me if this is too much of a personal no

I'm happy to answer anything about this bottle Often do you have a situation like this with your stomach? I mean theme parks or outside of theme parks? Great question. As a Jewish woman, often. But it's not typically this bad. I see. Usually I have a tummy ache, I move through the world. This feels like there is a slow,

there's a hearth that's being built inside my torso. It's really something. I mean that sounds kind of magical though. Like speaking of creatures, like it's a little ceremony that's taking place. I'm trying to get through, you know that girl who's going to be okay meme?

Every time I take a Pepto, I'm like, that's gonna be me, it's gonna be me. I just need it to start. So I think we are going to in fact be okay. Are you gonna get like, I don't know what happens with like, you know, I can't imagine one or two Pepto do anything, but after the five or so that you've had, is there any chance that you are tripping balls on Pepto

by the end of, I don't think we know all the full effects here. I can't wait to see where today takes us. But typically I bring my own food, because Universal Studios Hollywood is not my favorite place to eat. There's places I like to eat. I will eat in Wizarding World, but then I don't like

to spend money in Wizarding World for obvious reasons. So I will eat there if I'm nearby. That's an expensive, like, whatever chicken fingers. Yeah, but also, like, that's a meal I'd be happier picking at. And then I'll eat, like, lower lot sometimes. But we were, listen, it was hot out. My child was already in the restaurant.

We were in the booth. And I was like, I'm not getting her to move to a second location. It's not happening. And if it's not in the, we can speak to this, I think. Like, trying to get a child down to the lower lot is a gigantic operation. If it wasn't your plan from the get go

at the beginning of the day. You have to go in with purpose to do it. Maybe do it first, maybe kind of go right to it. It's not a casual decision, because any listener who hasn't been there, it's like it's an exodus. It's the Oregon Trail to get from the top of, maybe not normally, but with a child, I would say. It's like, all right, gather supplies, fortify yourself.

Yes, either you gotta do the escalator with them, or you have to get in the van. It is shocking, because I always thought that that elevator went straight down. You'd think that elevator would go straight down. And it does, but to a point. It goes straight down to the next level of the destination. It's like a story.

It's not that long. It doesn't get you close. It's not down to the next level of the destination. It's not that long. It doesn't get you close. It's not the kind of elevator that Batman takes that suits him up along the way. Yeah, yeah, where it's kind of an infinite elevator that goes like forever in the city. And Batman took an elevator to the Bat Pass van

to get to the Bat Man. Right. All right, any more Batman? We're leaving right now. Come on, let get to the Batman. Right, any more Batman? We're leaving right now, come on, let's hit the road. It feels very like Phantom of the Opera boat trying to do whatever you can to get through a secret maze. It's really wild. It really takes so much effort to just visit a theme park half.

It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. It's funny, any discussion you've had of like, you know, getting from, I think people have said like, just to take it to Epic Universe, like, you know, it can be a little bit of a pain when you decide, like, I wanna pop over to the other portal. It's actually a little bit of a long walk

and you gotta, you know, like, you know, you can't bounce around the way you can in other theme parks. And then you take for granted that, like, yeah, but if you wanna go from Harry Potter to Mario here. That's your whole day. It is, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the least easy transport

between parks you've ever seen. You have to stop halfway through the escalator and eat. Yes. And take a break. Which is why they have, you can get hot dogs and stuff. Now has anyone done any of those hot dogs? No. Starway hot dogs. I've never stopped halfway through for a snack. I've powered through.

Yeah, I've never done it. It's like, cause I also wouldn't pull off the freeway to go to the bathroom. I'd just keep going. Sure, yeah, yeah. And you don't got a lot of places to sit. Yeah. It would be done it. It's like, because I also wouldn't pull off the freeway to go to the bathroom. I'd just keep going. Sure, yeah, yeah. And you don't get a lot of places to sit, too. It would be kind of an odd move to make. Yeah.

Maybe the Celestials will work the magic and create some pairs that connect to each world with a little footpath. Magic teleporting, courtesy of Vincent Various. Do you think that between the, this is so LA Coded, I'm so sorry, everyone, but do you think between the first and second escalator, that's gonna become a hotspot because of the viewing zone

for when they open the Fast and Furious coaster? Are we going to look forward to the journey now? I think so. Like they're gonna get more people stopping and staring. Yeah, I mean. It's a really good spot to watch really good. I've been following the pull through on the Fast and Furious Hollywood Drift coaster

where they pull the car through to make sure no one's gonna get decapitated, because they have the thing in the car that's like, if the tallest person with the biggest wingspan was there, would they hit anything? Well, you've gotta be particularly concerned about this yourself. Well, that's what I'm tracking.

That would be you, yes. I'm the tallest man in Los Angeles. Uh-uh. I'm six nine, no, seven nine, sorry. Not counting Lakers or Clippers, you're the tallest man in Los Angeles. I'm six nine, no seven nine, sorry. Not counting Lakers or Clippers, you're the tallest man in Los Angeles. So you've seen some like how the car is gonna go over the track over the escalator

and it looks thrilling, it looks amazing. So I think you're right that that's gonna be a big hotspot. Well now between the first and second escalator, isn't that already where the particle board cutouts of the Apollo 13 astronauts are Is it possibly going to top the foot traffic of getting to stand next to particle board bill packs They should come back hey, that's a mega movie it's mega movies summer they should come back. Hey, that's a mega movie. It's mega movie summer. They should come back. What about us to decide what's a mega movie?

We're the audience. I say that's a mega movie. Would you go to FanFest nights if it was Apollo 13 experience? If there was like an actor who I remember from an improv class going, we need to make this fit in here, this fit in here, this square fit in the ground.

Well, you're in a control room, that's the immersive part of it. Apollo 13, you're in the control room, watching everybody be stressed out. That'd be good. Yeah, that would be the thing, I think. This fits in this. They got a Clint Howard.

They hired a Clint Howard for it. They got a Clint Howard. Might have been Clint Howard. Right, and you just have to oversee them coming back to Earth. Yeah. Yeah As they start expanding this franchise and getting a little deeper with the films something that something could be done Let's let's take it to the the East Coast here because we also are here and I'm sure you've given you know

zillions of thoughts on your show But we are we we are finally getting to talk about epic universe with other folks. So I'm excited you're here. I don't know, any big overall, whether broad hot takes or just even, or the teeniest, cute little teeny takes that you haven't gotten to say anywhere. And the takes will be hot just like the park. Hot and teeny. No joke, why is it like standing on the surface of the sun, I don't understand. The lakes will be hot just like the park. Hot and teeny. Yeah.

No joke. Why is it like standing on the surface of the sun? I don't understand. Also, listen, this is a rant that I get into. I did a very big podcast episode recapping being at the opening of Epic Universe. And I will not lie, I put more effort into it than probably half of college.

I really went for it. And there's two things I ranted about. One of them was was why is nobody designing or to bring it into Disney also, imagineering for being outdoors. Being outdoors, it's hot everywhere. It's hot in California, it's hot here, it's hot in Hong Kong, it's hot in every place

that they have parks, it's so freaking hot. And no one wants the look of an umbrella. Like, it's gonna ruin the way that this land appears, like build into the design, it's crazy. It's gonna ruin the way that this land appears, like build it into the design. It's crazy. It's crazy. No one will be paying attention to Immaculate Design if they're sweaty and annoyed.

Ugh, it's wild. Well, there's a shortage of umbrellas because they all lined them up next to the Guardians of the Galaxy building. All 30 umbrellas. Always, always. They always open and then it's just, they come out, they come out and they're all placed around.

Anyway, I won't waste now your time screaming about that. But for me, I went to Epic and I loved it, but the thing I did love was the rides. Yeah, right. I was obsessed with the lands, the theming, the creatures as we're gonna talk about, the shows. I thought that one of the things I loved most is that when you walk around that park,

you can feel that they spent money. Yeah. Like it looks, you don't see where things could have been and aren't, except if you're looking for a dark ride, then you definitely do. But just generally speaking, walking through that park was so pleasant. Yeah, definitely.

It was so beautiful. I also, like, I was definitely feeling a little cranky in the middle of the day there, but by the end, things kind of turned around, which is what I was hoping, and I saw you seemed to be kind of blistering out at the end of the night there. And I think night there is as good as hyped.

It's definitely, it's very pretty, it is nice that it gets down to a reasonable 84 degrees or whatever. Probably not even currently as people are hearing this. Yes, no, super pleasant. So you have this take that you think that maybe rides are not that weird. Yeah, did not like Ministry of Magic.

At all. Was on it being like, oh no, within a minute. Was just deeply upset by what I saw. What was your situation getting on this ride? Getting on this ride, which listener, just to acquaint you and remind you, people have, we know people who have waited for five hours for this attraction.

And that queue is a monster. I mean, it's- It's a long- You don't know where you are in space and time when you are in some areas of that queue. Yeah, yeah right. It's really like, you're just like in a tunnel and you're like, is this it?

Like, is there actually a ride? Am I just waiting? Yeah, I saw some posts on like an Epic Universe Reddit of like somebody sent a picture and they said, this is what I'm looking at right now, how much more do I have? And then some of the comments were like, who wants to tell him?

Because the answer was like still two and a half hours from there. The photo is of the big, grand, whatever. Oh, man. I'm not going to get any Potter term right. It's the big central station feeling area with the screen. Yeah, like the main ministry area. Yes, yeah. The big group.

They were asking how much more do I got? I mean, I'm counting the queue after that. Yeah. I did. I mean, I'm counting the queue after that. Yeah. I did, I mean, I need to admit that I visited under the best of circumstances. I was there for a media preview. The land was closed except for to media. And you'd think we just like skipped right on the ride.

It still took an hour. And there were only a few hundred of us. I think they weren't operating as many vehicles at the time. That has to be it. I mean, I saw vehicles across from us not moving, but I don't know how many they weren't operating. They were at least at like half a vehicle.

It feels like they got that open right under the wire. Like, cause it was not. Close enough, close enough, send them, go, go, go. And like stuff has been on and off working. And so yeah, they might have been like, oh, we can run one every 15 minutes. Even then there's the leg issue. Which issue?

What's the leg issue? Like moving, like don't keep your feet on the ground. Oh, I heard about this, yes. Yeah, the motion. What is it, you explained this when we were there. Do you remember? It was like, if too many, it was something about sensing

that everyone had their feet on the ground. Yes. Or- It would shut the ride down if somebody didn't. It would shut the ride down, but it's swaying you around a lot, so. Yeah, so your feet might naturally fly an inch off the ground.

Did they tell us not to do that? Would they keep your feet on the ground? I think they said just keep, stay seated. I think maybe it had been worked out. I thought they were giving me life advice about my dreams. Yeah, I was talking to you. Being humble, remembering where you came from.

Yeah, right. Shoot for the, you know, shoot for the, even you're looking at the stars. They were telling me not to look at the stars, but don't go try to reach for them. Right, yeah, well stay seated. Right, keep your feet firmly planted. It's very, like, you know, it's like a park

with a bunch of rise of the resistances. And that's not, like, they can't all be that, you know what I mean? Like, it's, like, you gotta be, like, that's, it's, what's the word, like, you need sort of, like, functional, easy to get on, hey, that was, you need your, you know, your big thunders, not to play that down as if it's like, you know, that's a great attraction,

but it's one that's very dependable. It's like, maybe I'm gonna wait in the half hour zone and I'm gonna get right on it and I know what I'm getting, and it's a fun ride, and it's a ride kinda for everybody to do, that's not like an experience you have to brace yourself for and like plan with your family and discuss with a spreadsheet the night before, if you can manage to get on it or not.

But isn't that what we live for? That's what some of you live for. Some of us. Some of us. But yeah, you know, there's not a lot of just like, and maybe it takes a long time for a park to have, but like old dependable such and such, they don't really have that.

Well it does, it feels like, I guess Animal Kingdom has the safari, but every other park in Disney World open with like, pirates, it opens, Epcot has a bunch of dark rides, there's at least a great movie ride when Hollywood Studios opens. Yeah. But it does feel like, like two, it's like two five minute slower rides

with a lot of robots are missing. Yes. Yes. They need a people eater and they need either a proper dark ride or a slow boat ride. Like they really need indoor family friendly attractions at this park. Yes, because I'm a big fan of Yoshi's Adventure. I've been talking that for as like minor as it is.

Yeah, it's cute. Yeah, it's really cute. And it's as close as I think they have maybe to like, cause I found myself at the end of the day, it's like, it's 9.45, what do I got time for? What can I squeeze in? And that's what I was able to squeeze in and then still sprint over to Monsters,

that's the fastest I've ran in years. And I made it, I could hear the countdown behind me. Like closing in 10, nine, and I was so proud, I squeezed it in. But anyway, but you know, it's close, but it's not, it's also, you can be sweating balls on that thing, for sure. It's a mostly outdoor attraction.

Just one more like cute for everybody, and it's kind of weird that Burke doesn't have that. That seems like really primed for kind of a cute, fun, meet a hundred limited animation dragons, you know, along a nice little route. Yeah, that'd be lovely. Yeah, yeah. I've heard that, did anyone here do,

whatever that thing is in Burke, I truly don't know the name. Oh, the water thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did not. That's the only thing in is in Burke, I truly don't know the name. Oh, the water thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did not. That's the only thing I didn't do just because I was like, I gotta be out here all day.

I'm not getting wet. Like I'm not getting head to toe soaked. Yeah. It's just not happening on a warm day. I think I've heard that is like a physical effort. So it's not the easy going attraction that we're talking about. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a, I mean, I guess Universal just added something that like we're talking about in Yeah. Right, yeah. Yeah, it's, I mean, I guess Universal just added something that we're talking about in Hollywood three years ago. Because taking a toddler, yeah, taking a toddler, you're like, oh, there's nothing you can go on. Yeah. Except for pets. Yeah, right.

So I don't know if it's company-wide, they've always been like, it's for teens and up, and now they're slowly getting their minds around doing more stuff for kids. Is this a universal wide problem? I guess it's not it, because I don't think Adventure has like cat in the hat. Yeah, there's more stuff there.

Yeah, there's multiple stuff. And I think there's a few things happening too because there's always usually a carousel option and here the carousel is so good that it's hard to get on. So the carousel and like the carousel load time was very long. Yeah, yes. So it's not, that's not really enough of like a people eater

or family friendly to like make that easy to go on. Kids can definitely go on that, but that's not as easy. But also I'm planning on taking my mom because I'm not bringing my child because she's not old enough for like, she's not ready for Epic. No, couldn't do anything about it. Also I don't want her to hold me back

when I want to go on rides. That's the real one. That's what we said too, that's right. I want to go monsters unchained and she's not holding me back. She's not holding me back from the four rides. Yeah. No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express.

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I did, cause we were staying at Sapphire Falls and I did the early entry, which I can not, not recommend enough. Skip it, folks, because you're gonna be standing in the sun at the entrance for a while and then went right over to Monsters, got in that, even was able, they had activated the stationary secondary loading, got in the car,

and then Igor turned the work lights on. And he specifically said, don't be alarmed, I'm turning on the work lights. That's what happens, Igor does it? Igor uses the phrase, I'm turning on the work lights. Wow. And we're like, how long will this be? And the worker was very nice, he was like,

it's, you never know. Like it's unclear. We're in uncharted territory. So we're already like covered in sweat by like 10 a.m. by the official park opening. I got right on curse to the werewolf, which is fun. And it's really intense. It'll be it's short, but it's very intense. Yeah, it's fun.

But the complaint I've been sitting on for weeks, I ordered the fried rice at Blue Dragon. It was the driest goddamn crab meat I've ever eaten. I didn't know crab could be dry. I didn't know that was possible. What is that item supposed to be? Well, I got it without the shrimp, but it's vegetable fried rice with crab meat

and Chinese sausage, and both of them were so dry. And I'm like, I didn't realize, that sausage is greasy to begin with, and I'm like, I don't know how this is possible. Bummer. The wings are pretty good, and the boba coffee tea drink was good. We had some good things at the,

what's that restaurant called again? Pizza Moon? No, the, there's a restaurant called again? Pizza Moon? No, the, a lot of enthusiasm, but Pizza Moon. The Oak. No, no, no, what is the, what's the sit down Chinese restaurant? Blue Dragon.

Blue Dragon, yeah. Yes, that, I think I liked things that we had, although remember they were out of every wine that I asked for? That was peculiar. That was very strange, yes. But the, I liked things that I had, but don't you feel like maybe across the board

that's not nice enough of a restaurant to charge what they charge? Yes. Yes. Okay, three dots. I think so. Also, all the vegetarian options were very, Jane does not like spicy, and she's like, is that, can they make that not spicy?

And they're like, no. Whoa, at a theme park. At a theme park. Wow. Yeah, and? And they're like, no. Whoa, at a theme park? At a theme park. Wow. Yeah, and she, I was like, this is a weird stereotype. It's like all vegetarians, they love spicy. And they're like, I think the chef can make something. And they just brought out like greens

and some chopped tofu and soy sauce. She probably ate 250 calories. Any stomach distress from that? No, and we had those kind of spiced chopped cucumbers and that was tasty. Was any of it gray? None of it was gray. Was that gray, was that enough fish,

was that impossible or beyond or just said? It was a beyond. And I will say a, I don't wanna say them by name even though I kind of am, a vegan theme park food account that I follow, we follow each other, DM'd me and was like, that looks like an uncooked Beyond Burger. And I was like, sister, you're right.

Oh no, no, God. It's okay, listen, I have a ginger ale I found in the back of our fridge. I'm feeling good. And we've been going for a little bit here now, and noticed that you have not, we haven't watched you just slowly stop looking at us in the eye. No, I think I'm feeling good. And we've been going for a little bit here now. And notice that you have not like, we haven't watched you just like slowly stop looking at us in the eye.

No, I think I'm good. And then once I run out of my last Pepto-Bismol, all the bets are off. OK, OK, sure. Yeah, yeah. Well, just keep us aware. If you have like a timetable and you're like, this is going to be, this is going to fuzz out in 45 minutes.

So we got to be done by then. No, because I can't, I simply cannot not comment on one of these creatures. I got to. Well, then let's start digging into creatures to make sure that they all get the anvil time. Number one, that goddamn crab meat that still drives me nuts. The creatures are what they feed you. No, here we are.

We are doing the epic universe creature clash. This is a bit of a non-April Final Four bracket situation. This is where we landed, Carly, is discussing, trying to determine, if we can altogether, what is the best creature, the coolest creature, the cutest creature? I don't know what criteria everybody has in mind. I mean, we're gonna end up probably

with terrifying against cute at times Does anyone have in their head what they are looking for or or just something that you were like blown away by across the board? About the creatures at this place. I think the winner of this cute contest is will be a lot a lot like pornography You'll know it if you see it That's the way I'm thinking about it. I'm not putting any sort of qualifications, just if I see something, I will go, that's the winner. And you're saying, wait, explain that, that it's like you know pornography when you see it, or you know the kind of pornography you like when you see it.

That was a judge's ruling in a pornography, with a case that might've been about like a banned book. I don't know any of the details other than I know with a case that might have been about like a banned book? I don't know any of the details other than I know it's a quote by some judge. It's a legal thing. That's all I know. I see. Yeah.

I mean, I'd have to agree. I think I do know pornography when I see it. It is maybe the dumbest sounding statement you could ever make. I'm like, yeah, that's what it is. And I feel you could actually just describe it and you could meet a set of criteria for that as well. But no, I'm like, that's what it is. And I feel you could actually just describe it and you could meet a set of criteria for that as well. But no, I'm just gonna, I don't have any preconceived notions.

I'm just gonna, as I see things, I'm gonna determine if I like them better than the other. That's all it is. Now we sort of landed at creatures as the summarizing what we're dealing with here. I feel like you, I was looking at emails and you kind of proposed that maybe is it something about puppets and animatronics,

and somehow it kind of got winnowed into creature, which gives us a lot of, just as a little preview, and we'll announce them round by round, but there's a lot of dragons in here, there's a lot of potter creatures in here. We sort of landed, I'd say, at not a lot of monster stuff, because our monster, I mean some monsters certainly are creatures, but I don't know,

I don't consider Dracula a creature. I don't consider, certainly, what's her, Victoria Frankenstein? Victoria, yeah. She's not a creature. They're just a regular person, a talented person. In my head, I started going creature kind of implies like maybe not like a working knowledge

of the English language. Like that's what maybe makes a creature to me. I thought like non-human like entity. Yeah, yeah. I think most of what we're talking about is non-human like. Right, I raised this with you guys yesterday of like I don't think we have any dark universe in here. Yes, that's a big slay.

And is it funny to just put Igor in, but he's less creature. No, he will win, he will win. The episode will be over. More nasty little guy, but the creature from the Black Lagoon is in the ride and he has creature in his name. This is a good point.

Potentially. I think that's indisputably a creature and I you know, I was thinking like Frankenstein doesn't feel right because he kind of talks Like that's even even though we're talking about some of the most impressive things you could see in this place. So that Animatronic. Yeah cool. Yeah But they're all creatures, the monsters. It's just that we probably, there's none of room for them. Monsters are creatures. Well, I think I know what it is.

I think it's that the ones we're talking about today, if they lived in your house, you would consider them a pet. Yes, some certainly. Okay. Some would be incredible pets to have. Some would be a lot of work. But like the invisible man is more uncle you don't want to see at the holidays.

And wolf man is it? Check the bathroom, make sure he's not in there. Yeah. Go in. What if, yeah, wolf man is not a pet. Wolf man is too out of control. And is he too man to be? Too man?

This is, I'm not going to take a hard stance against this. Wolf man might be, could very well be a creature. He's close. Is wolf. What about wolf from the Jack Nicholson movie Wolf? Would that be more of a man or more of a creature? I don't remember a lot that I've never seen. Why have I not what am I doing? Why haven't I not sat down and gotten much wolf done after all these years? But like it seems like okay like Igor or Frankenstein lived in your house. It feels like you might have to file taxes for them. Like they would count as a person.

Oh, they're dependents. Like a dependent, yeah. That number goes up, yeah. But for the creatures we're talking about, they would not be considered in that way. Do you have a social security number? Yes, yes. That's the line.

I think that's a great way to put it. Okay, well then I would say,. I think that's a great way to put it. Okay, well then I would say, I do think Jason is right on the money about Creature from the Black Lagoon. Wolfman we might wanna keep in play too. Would Wolfman, is Wolfman man enough to have a social security number?

I think, well I mean technically I think he transforms from man into wolf, so the man has the social security number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you shed the social security number as you transform. Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah, it depends what state you get Wolfman in. Right, if you're Wolfman.

There's different laws on what they consider of how much of a man is Wolfman. But Wolfman Jack had a social security number. He would have had to. Oh, sir, yeah. Because he was man. Unless he was off the grid, baby. He was a lot of you. Ha-ha, ha-ha-hoo! sir, yeah. Because he was man. Unless he was off the grid, baby.

Okay, just one more thing. Wolfman. Let's say when he's in man mode, he probably has a wallet. He could hypothetically have a social security card in his wallet. When he turns to a wolf, does the wallet stay with him? I think it depends on the type of transformation, if he rips his pants with his claws. It depends on what happened when he...

He could like... He would have to plan ahead to keep that wallet secure. So if he's doing that, then yes. But there's no way if he's transforming and going, I lose my wallet once a week. And I don't transform into a wolf ever. You're not even chewing people's necks. I'm not, no. Do you have a landing spot?

What do you mean? When you come in even chewing people's necks. I'm not no do you have a landing spot? What do you mean when you come in? Oh for the house or your bedroom? Do you have a landing spot where you empty your pockets and put everything? This is an interior design choice. This is not This is a man who knows how to live because I got one and it helps a lot It does help a lot. Yeah where everything goes key keys keys wallet.? Yeah, keys, wallet, yeah. Yeah, you dump your stuff. You dump all your pockets. I technically have a place I'm supposed to put it. But. But you don't.

I often don't. I was at your house once and you're like, found my wallet, it was under the bed. Yeah, it can be under the bed, in the couch. It can be all sorts of places, yeah. There's no telling where. Sometimes I'm like the dishwasher, which we have an old kitchen

So we have to like move our dishwasher in oh kind of sucks, but whatever you put your thing I mean I've lived without dishwasher, so it's better than that But you know sometimes on the dishwasher sometimes you never know where it works You do wolf out that you come in the door and just like blah you just throw everything I think some people I live with might consider that wolfing out. I think they might be on your Talk about your wolfing out when you come home. Yeah. Well, all right. Well, here's what I'm going to do.

I'm not going to change who's in the lineup as of now. But here's what I think. I think as we get to our 16 entries, I think we will feel it in the similar to the pornography rule. We'll know it when we see it. I think there will be a lack of enthusiasm about one of the pairings or one of the creatures, and at that point, maybe creature from the Black Lagoon

comes in, there's a trade out, or it just becomes a three-way brawl. Let's just be, and call it, especially Jason, you're the one representing the Black Lagoon as a Democratic district in this matter, so feel free to wedge him in wherever you feel makes sense. Well, let's start digging into it. OK, there's sort of some thematic pairings here.

So we're starting in Burke. We're starting with the meet and greeters. There's meet and greet toothless, and there is Dart. Little Dart. Dart is kind of like a baby Toothless, but I don't think is. Now this is where, does anyone know this world well enough to speak to who any of these characters are?

No, not me. Kind of. I mean, I've been a really big fan of the How to Train Your Dragon franchise ever since I watched it on the Flight to Epic Universe. Ever since then, I have been fully obsessed. So I know a little, but I don't know who Dart is. Okay, well.

I've only seen one of the films. Dart is the Boston Dynamics dog, Reskin? Yes, that is correct. Is that in theory? Yeah, okay. Dart's a cute little guy who comes out of a fence and they kind of keep people away from Dart, but Dart is.

They keep them curiously far. Yeah, yeah. Well, I guess just in case it, you know, to use the recent terminology, because if any of this out and just suddenly, and then like springs go flying and people get nailed in the yard. Dart is equipped with two machine guns.

So if Dart smells drugs on anyone, it's over. They didn't fix that. They didn't change that when they just used the buzzer dynamics. Endless rounds, it's 3D prints rounds as it goes. So it is an endless supply. When I've seen Dart Wolf out, he kind of flutters his eyes and just lies down on the ground. Is that so? I have, yeah. I've seen, there is video of like Dart-

Wow, just kind of little meltdowns? Doing a little hard reset. Doing a little turn them off, turn them back on again. Jeez, wow. I honestly thought Dart was baby toothless. And it's just like, they all exist at the same time. No worry about it. I don't think so. But I'm realizing Dart has like a white pause.

I think Dart is different. Yeah. If you really love this franchise, get ready for a lot of yelling at us as you're listening as we try to push We're gonna catch up exactly seven years younger than us. This is gonna be a struggle Fundamentals darling, I don't know dart these idiots And you know in terms of other things that we've missed I mean, I want to start giving some love to the meet and greet toothless, but

You've also got I missed entirely that there's also, there's this other, there's this white dart here. He also got white dart. Now white dart presumably has a name that isn't white dart, but there's also a little Boston Dynamics white guy. Those are cute. I liked seeing those, especially, the movement is awesome. And yeah, if you were a kid especially,

I don't wanna get, should I give my opinion here? Is this too early? Or we? Let's talk, let's also just really quickly say basics about, I would say that of all of the creature meeting opportunities, we did not do, we didn't stand in any line to meet Toothless. I don't know if you did.

I did, yeah. You did, okay, okay. Well, you speak to Toothless so I don't know if you did. Tell us. I did, yeah. You did, okay, okay. You speak to Toothless so closely. This seems like a really neat little. Once again, I have to give the caveat that I did not wait an exceptionally long amount of time. I did fully Black Friday sprint into the land

to meet Toothless right when, it was like at the media thing, they had each portal, they had a thing, there was a moment, and then we were allowed in, and I just fucking beelined. And so I got in line pretty early, I was able to meet Tooth thing, there was like a moment, and then we were allowed in and I just fucking beelined. And so I got in line pretty early, I was able to meet Toothless which was great. It was exceptional.

It was exceptional and I'm talking as somebody who did not grow up at this franchise, who doesn't have that many emotional ties to it, meeting this character was truly a religious experience. Wow, what is so much better than watching a video of it. What is so special about the- It's just that you put your hand on, also I'm paranoid I'm gonna call Toothless Toothstom because I've done it before.

Oh I know, I was so worried on stage that was gonna happen, I was like guaranteed that's gonna happen. It's too easy, cause we've talked about Toothstom way more as a collective. Now if you're looking for a veggie burger that'll make you feel worse, or maybe you go get that and it balances your humor,

your vials. Fight fire with fire. Fully take me down. It was magical because you put your hand kind of on his snout and he feels alive in a way that you don't anticipate. Like it delivers more than you would expect. It felt like meeting a very big sweet dog.

Yeah, that's what it seems like. I mean, obviously the other one looks like a puppy too. But this seems like, there's not even some, because I don't know the nature of the characters very much, but this is not like a velociraptor situation where maybe all of a sudden it'll do something scary. Toothless is sweet. These are all sweeties, at least in this first category.

It was really nice. I mean, I saw kids meeting Toothless, I almost called them Toothless, and it was making me emotional. And I have never seen these movies before. Exactly. They happened both trips, both times we were in Burke, months apart, and I was like, oh boy,

and there's like a little music playing, and you're like, wow. He makes little noises, he moves his eyes, he moves his face, like it just, it's one of those rare instances where the onscreen character appearing in the park is exactly, like it just, it's it. Yeah.

They did it, and they did such a good job with it. He's huge, too. Huge! He's huge. He's bolted to the ground. Is that right, or does he? Could it fly away? What, there's one foot that seems

kinda suspiciously planted. Planted, right. On a little thing. to the ground, is that right? Or does he fly away? What, there's one foot that seems kind of suspiciously planted. Planted, right? Like on a little thing. Cause I thought he came on and off. And then someone told me like, oh no, look, you never see him going on and off. Huh.

Like I think he's just permanently there. I think one of those feet, I think something's running through one of those feet. Also, I'm not bad at my job, I consciously didn't want to know how it works, because I wanted to retain how special they were. Yeah, kind of, right? How it works is he's magical and alive.

Now, you trained, training dragons is mostly like smacking their forehead, just giving them a little bip on the forehead, right? I guess so. And they lower their head and close their eyes. It felt kind of like what I would have wanted in Avatar, like like Link up. Yes.

Oh yeah. Interesting. Cause I have no interest in like the brrrr like that, but the, you know, like the tail fibers, but this really was just like meeting the world's best dog. What if you were to actually put your hair in a thing? Would we want to do that? Ooh and then be sucked in?

Yeah. Like a yanked a little bit. I mean I could replicate that with a hairdryer in one of the universal bathrooms. But. You're just going to have to put everybody out to have a wig on, and then the braid would go in. Yeah.

To make it really steel. Okay, let's do it. We're putting your wig on. We're putting on your dirty loner wig. Dirty loner wig. The wigs get washed in between each ride. Don't worry. Yeah, don't worry.

You wanna see the washing room? They're just naturally pretty like thick and sticky. They get sprayed down with the stuff they wash high school band uniforms with. Just throw it in the wig can at the end. Yeah. A lie? Yeah, a lie.

I feel like we know where this is going. I think this is an unfortunate. I feel like Dart could go far in a less sad kind of thing. You don't get the pet Dart? Like, cause everyone's so far away from Dart. You cannot pet Dart. No, no, no. Not pet Dart.

Are you crazy? Dart will take you down. Okay, so when I was there, cause again, it wasn't like a regular visit, we were all looking at Dart, or I think it was White Dart. I'm so sorry, so when I was there, cause again, it wasn't like a regular visit, we were all looking at Dart, or I think it was White Dart, I'm so sorry, I don't know their name. I also don't know their pronouns, I don't know.

But we were like looking, and then someone kind of crawled on the side to take a photo, and there was a palpable shift in the crowd, like, oh no, like they're behind Dart, is that okay? Yeah. It was a little stressful. Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, cause we know.

Yeah, that yeah, that back leg is gonna kick with that 500 miles an hour. There's a rocket launcher on the back of it. Yeah. Dart brought you by your friends at Palantir. Right, Peter Thiel sculpted Dart. Dart cannot answer if he is the Antichrist or not. Dart keeps stumbling and then just shuts down.

But don't we, you know, look, we have to have some speed in this. I mean, this is just. It's toothless. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's toothless. Of course it is.

I feel like Dart probably deserved to go further, but that's a tough. Sorry, Dart. Yeah, these things are. Okay, so next category, I've studiously called blue suit cuties. Now we start pitting franchises against each other.

We have Stormfly, who is the blue walk-around dragon in the Burke area, versus Big Blue Bird from the Cirque Arcano. Now in other cases, I looked up what the names of the Potter creatures are, but in this case, could not figure it out. It's a big blue bird. In the photo that's in front of us, I mean, it's beautiful plumage is the word.

Plumage, yeah. This is the cereal. Plumage. When you see this show, you can't believe the quality of the plumage. Of the plumage. Of the plumage, yes. They're standing with someone who is way too overdressed for their improv 101 graduation show.

I guess that's true. And there's a loving peck that is happening. Oh yeah, that is what's happening. And I think in both cases we're dealing with, I think I paired them together, well because I don't know if you caught this, they're both blue. But also I think these are both people in suits

as opposed to like autonomous drone bots. I had a visceral and I don't think it's the Beyond Burger I had from Mel's at Universal Studios Hollywood. I had a visceral, ugh, when you said that they're people in suits. They're so good that my brain's like, no, they're real. Oh, yeah, yeah, nevermind. They are magical and alive, as all of these are.

I don't always feel that way, but with these, they're both quite good. And you're not thinking about how they're done in either case, for sure. Have you, did you run into Stormfly? Did any of us see? I did, yeah. Okay, okay. I saw Stormfly walking around,

but when I was looking up stuff before this, Stormfly also does join that meet and greet. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, okay. Wait, which one? The toothless one or the... The toothless one.

So I saw someone meet Stormfly and then walk a little further. Oh, okay. Gotcha. So it's a two-in-one, fantastic. I did get to meet Stormfire very quickly, very briefly. Are those eyes blinking? Is it similar?

Is there physical contact? You put your hand on the forehead. There was no touching. I don't know if touching, I know touching at the official meet and greet was allowed. This was more of a breeze pass. I see, I see. Yeah.

But excellent texture. I mean, this is a very specific, designed, cartoony character that is wonderfully rendered. I mean, this is right out of the gate, like one of the best theme park suits I've ever seen. Yeah, and I will say that it's kind of upgraded with the Astrid character walk around, because seeing them together is like,

oh, you get two characters together that are meeting and greeting, and they're so different. Yes, and that's like her dragon, so they have characters together that are meeting and greeting and they're so different. Yes. Right, right. And that's like her dragon. So they have like a bond and they play off each other. Yeah, it's cool to have them be physically moving through the land. Yeah. Yeah. Well, is this unfair to Big Blue Bird?

I'm gonna vote for Big Blue Bird. I'm gonna vote for Big Blue Bird too. Oh, really? Interesting, huh? Rationale? Big Blue Bird is just like so realistic looking. I can't get over, there's something about big blue bird that's hypnotic to me. The shriek, I shruck when I saw that show

when that fucking bird came out. Yeah. Wow, wow. I was screaming like I was at a concert. I could not handle what I was seeing on stage. Were you in the state of mind as we were, or I think Mike and I, probably none of us knew much of what was gonna happen in that show. I knew nothing.

So when creatures start coming out, you really are, wow, that's part of this. Had no idea. Had no clue what was gonna happen. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'm Big Blue Bird all the way. I don't know, Jason's strong feelings? I just think Stormfly is so cool looking.

Yeah. I didn't say Stormfly wasn't. Just like all of the, well, I think I'm waiting it cause Stormfly just has a lot of cool accents. Look at that golden plumage. Look at that just beautiful blue color in the feathers. Look out, the puppeteer of Big Blue Bird is Ezra Miller. They're gonna beat the shit out of you.

But that's beside the point. I'm just voting on beauty here. I see beauty, I know it. I know what I see with my own eyes. You were able to see this show. But I feel like I didn't see this show. I've seen clips. It seems like they're still fine tuning a lot of this.

I mean, it's perfect. They perfected the big blue bird though. Okay. Maybe there's other things they need to perfect. Does anyone feel like they have, or maybe I'll just take this upon myself. What am I saying? Even if I looked up the real name,

we're never gonna not call it Blygby. Yeah, I don't care. I don't think we should be tasked with memorizing anything in the Fantastic Beasts world. I think that we, that is unfair. That's a good point, and it will never come in handy to me because I will never see one of these films. I will never interact with any of this

unless I am in that part. Correct, unless I am in that circus, which is essentially Fantastic Beasts propaganda. At the end, it truly is. Which ironically, Universal's Warner Brothers Studios has thrown it into the abyss. Oh yeah, right. But there's a big show.

Yeah, yeah, if theoretically they ever made one of these movies again, they got people coming in every day to a captive audience. Yeah, you know what? I think you convinced me, actually. I think, and I want to start mixing up the properties. I think Big Blue Bird. I have no strong feelings either way. And a little insane also, because I think in another matchup, Stormfly is an incredible piece of work. Oh, I agree.

That makes you seem like I'm mad at Stormfly. No, there's something about that bird. Something about I agree. I agree too. I'm mad at Stormfly. No, there's something about that bird. Something about that bird. Yeah. Yeah. Hey everyone, this is Tom Sharpling, the host of The Best Show, the weekly live comedy podcast where I interview celebrity guests, talk to callers from all over the world, play music and have as much fun as you can possibly have on a podcast. It's three hours of mirth, music, and mayhem every Tuesday, and you can check out the latest episode of The Best Show streaming right now on Amazon Music.

Okay, so now we remain in, well, we're in Dragon Zone, I'd say, for a little bit here. Yeah. And this is the fire versus ice category. It is Snow Wraith versus grump. These are names that I did look up, but shorthand you might say ice dragon versus fire dragon. Fire dragon, AKA grump, kind of inspired this whole thing

because this was something that Carly, you were blown away by after you returned. You saw grump in action. And grump was just sleeping. I saw Grump in the land just asleep. And on my podcast, I was like, how incredible. This is proof, this is indicative of how much money they spent.

That they put all this money into a dragon that's just sleeping in a corner. They didn't prop it out with some barrels and were like, we're good here, let's go home. They really, they put this, I didn't even see it. It was just sleeping there, I stumbled upon it. Yeah, I have no idea where it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I missed this one, totally. It's like across from, what is it called, Mead Hall? I think that's what the restaurant is. It's like if you walk back towards, like, over the water. It was to the right. Okay. And then I saw a tweet the other week where now this thing breathes fire.

And it's like I was amazed when it was just laying there breathing. Wow. And now it has a special effect that just got turned on, which is wild. That shows you the level of detail and the level. It feels like another park might just like, what if we never did the fire?

You know what? Nobody knew there was supposed to be fire. They were happy. We don't have to. Meat Hall, a low key, very successful, as it holds a lot of people. And it is very cold. Very cold. And it's got an exclusive people and it is very cold. Very cold.

And it's got an exclusive ginger soda that is delicious. That's really all I'm looking for. I mean- That's all I'm looking for. A ginger soda? I was not mad to get, when we, I think we got a callback time for the Zy the disability access. We got like come back in half an hour and I'm like,

I'm not mad we're going back to Meat Hall this sit. Yeah. I sat in there too, it was great. It was great. This is another site, like, you know, Carly you had the press access. Jason, if you had not had the disability situation,

the, I don't think we would have gotten on anything. I, yeah. I don't know, if for anybody who's listening to this, who has not gone or is not gonna go for a while, maybe don't go for a while. Maybe let them sort some stuff out because clearly you need something. But what if you, I mean, I know there have been

really long lines for some stuff, but I think if you cut out Ministry of Magic, which is what my advice would be, I'd be like, just save it, it's gonna be there forever. That's a good point. Don't roll the dice, don't wait multiple hours, maybe not get on, which that's the worst case scenario. Like focus on the shows.

I loved the shows. Yeah. Focus on the other stuff. That's where I'm at, personally. Yeah, I keep coming back to like, I think it's going to be a perfect park in 2030. That's when those trees grow. That's what happened at Diagon Alley with Gringa.

It's like opening summer. It's three or four hours wait. Two or three years later, walk right on. Yeah, right, right, yeah. Okay, so it's really here now we gotta decide. It's really, do you like fire or ice more? You a fire guy or an ice guy? Are you a high rock or an ice guy? Are you a pyroch or a blizzrock guy, you know? That's the Dueling Dragon's official dragon names.

Oh, I see, okay, okay. I thought it was from Warcraft or something, I don't know. Oh, no, it's also the names of the raptors above the entrance of Philosa Coaster are named in tribute. Oh, in honor of history. Oh, interesting. Your memory is unreal. So when it comes to Isles of Adventure,

it's this one area. I can't remember extent. Who are you? You're the cousin? Really quick, what's the name of that circus show? Le Cirque Arc? No, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry, the Isles of Adventure circus show.

Oh, cartoons? Cartoon circus? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no a circus, half fur characters, half face characters, and the face characters like Dagwood would throw knives at Betty Boop on his spinning wheel. I'm so sad this is before my time. I know. I think it barely lasted two years of that. And then it very quickly became BMX bike stunts. The video of it only went up a few years ago, you know?

Wow, wow. And now say the day that the video went up. I think it was 2020. I believe Storybook Amusements has a full, I think they posted some excerpts and then they got a hold of a full video of it. But it. I will be watching this when I go home.

Yeah. Yeah, I wanna see that knife throwing. Okay, so snow wraith, that's just like out on the street, right, we got some time with snow wraith. Yeah, we did. You stand in your way long enough and like big beautiful burst of white, white steam comes out of whatever you wanna call it.

Fog, I mean. What do you call it when it's cold? I forget. Yeah, it is, was it cold? I don't remember. In my memory it was. Yeah, but I might not have been. Because it was such, yeah, maybe not.

But like slightly chilled fog, maybe? It was beautiful, it was thick, robust, you got lost in it. This is tough, you can like be part of it, you're like part of that one, but Grump, you know, you're just watching because you don't wanna be in the fire. Yeah, Grump is really passive. Yeah, yeah, yes, but then it is fire,

and this whole notion that it was added after the fact just as a plus up. Anybody got a strong leaning? Yeah, fire. Yeah. Grump, I'm going Grump. You see the whole body, you see the whole body, it's more of a full picture of the character,

more affection. I came in grump and I was gonna say. You flipped? Yeah, I flipped ice. Wow, wow, no kidding. I love the shape of Grump's mouth. Yeah. I just enjoy that. There's something aesthetically pleasing about the teeth.

Yeah. It's like kind of gross in like a scary way too, but there's something pleasing about it. I don't know if it's just because it's a perfect circle, I'm not sure. I like that it's like a kind of a thin upper jaw and then a big fat like. It's not a perfect circle, yeah.

Like with a bunch of big, like. He's got a great jaw. He's laying eggs out of his. I like the big jaw. Big crazy bumps on his jaw. Snow Wraith has a good jaw too, and is not a bad character. I feel bad voting against any of these. eggs out of his big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, and his legs are floating. I love that. Also like a dog. He's so dog-coded, yeah. Sleeping on a big pile of rocks is pretty cute. I may have flipped the other way.

I think I was coming in Wraith, but I might be Team Grump. All right, I'm joining you, Grump. Yeah, wow, wow. I know. The whole, Grump inspired the whole thing. I know, and yet I turned my back. You were the only one who went the other way.

All right, Grump it is. We stay with some dragons here. Also, what a gift to have so many animatronics in a land that we get to debate which one is better. Yeah. It's going to be tough to land on the final. That's so rare. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, yeah. Let's have a favorite animatronic in Rise of the Resistance. The stormtrooper who pivots his head three degrees to the left or the one who goes three degrees to the left or the one who goes seven degrees to the right? How to Train Your Dragon also does a really good job, I Love Perk does a really good job at a thing I feel like I always talk about, which is translating animation, be it 2D or

CG, into three- three dimensional real world objects. It all works in Isle of Berk. These crazy. Yeah, you're so right. Even the environment, but also the characters and creatures. Yeah. It all works. I think it probably helps that everything is a little exaggerated. Everything's a little caricature-y.

You see them get this stuff. I mean, it changes you. Like it's not that far removed in terms of like weird proportions from like J Ward, Rocky and Bullwinkle, it's not that far removed in terms of, like, weird proportions from, like, J Ward, Rocky, and Bullwinkle, but years ago, it would just be kind of like plain suits of some of these characters, and now, like, yeah, like, the proportions really,

they, like, track and maintain in reality. They're really well done. They would do a realistic Bullwinkle, if they did it now. Oh, Bullwinkle with a lens flare? What are you over- That's what it was. Sure, yeah, yeah. Not for any old lens flare.

All the J-War characters. This one's Toothless V Toothless. Ride Toothless from Hiccup Swing Gliders who sends you launching and then Flying Untrainable Dragon Toothless from the Untrainable Dragon show. So, I mean this one, look, and then flying untrainable dragon Toothless from the untrainable dragon show. So, I mean, this one, look, this one might be unfair. This is, yeah.

One is flying over your heads in a majestic, incredible moment in the show, but the other ones, I look, he's like, that was the first Toothless I met and I love him. He's so eager and he's eager to hit that button and you're a little like, what happens when you press the button? I don't know, Toothless.

But he's like, trust me, I'm smiling big. Don't worry about it. He's great, yeah. He's great. But he's not quite on the level of flying Toothless or I mean other Toothless as well. Yeah, yeah. Well, this could be a possibility, is this a zone where there is a trade-out and creature from the black lagoon

Let Jason decide. Yeah, or do you think there's gonna be a time where we need creature from the black lagoon more? Hmm It might be a time where we look ahead we also get your target on one I'm trying not to wait for ride Toothless. Too strongly of our not amazing experience of Toothless hit the button then we just sat there for two or three minutes. No! And then we launched with no warning.

I thought it was, I thought that was kind of amazing. Yeah, it was. That seemed part of Toothless' crazy plan. Mischavenness. Yeah. Well, one of you looked at us and went, are we not gonna ride anything today? Yeah, that was the moment of like, we're gonna get unloaded from this thing.

Jason is gonna be forced to have to like, step onto a ladder or something. It's gonna be a very interesting experience walking out. Yeah, yeah, no, I was, yeah, I did get one. But hey, but then we got a great ride and it was fun. And Jason had a concussion. More fun characters. So you get to take some tests.

Just a little bump. From that one? Huh? Well, no, when we did launch, I was kind of like tilting my head forward and my head snapped back. You didn't feel like, I wonder if this is going to go. Whoa! Now, Mike said, rise as high above the seat back.

My head is level with the seat back, so. I mean, listen, I took more Advil during the few days I was there than I have in my entire life. Yeah. So, I understand. Well, you get some inflammation from that heat and the salt in the food. And whatever's going on in that mine cart attraction,

and all of them together. Ah, interesting. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't. It is not a relaxing park to go to by any means. Unless you're just chilling. Yeah, which you could do. But then you're there.

You're just going to chill. And where do you chill? There's only so long you could spend in that meat hall. I want to see it in November. Oh, I can't wait. In a sweatshirt? I want to see it in the fall. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. This will be the time. I just want to sit in Wizarding World and sit and! Yeah, yeah. Heaven. This'll be the time. I mean, I just wanna sit in Wizarding World and sit and just like eat, I don't know, theme park muscles and just hang out. Just sit in that cafe and convince yourself that you're in France and.

I don't have to do much convincing. Yeah. You kind of are. It is, I know. It's so. It's quite good. Yeah, it's the best depiction of Europe ever done in a theme park.

It's wild, yeah. With apologies to World Showcase. And it's tiny Eiffel Tower. Yeah. But it's cute. It is cute. It is, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it's hard not to. Yeah, OK, OK. Say put creature in your pocket.

All right, so flying untrainable dragon toothless moves on. We stay in the shows. And I get to this is an area that I call show stoppers, because both of these are massive and jaw droppers when you see them. The untrainable dragon himself, herself, cause mom, that's cause plot point that you get, only plot point in show.

And Zowu from Le Cirque Arcanu, AKA Big Weird Tiger, who has kind of like electrified, almost like tentacle-ish mane that lights up different colors. Big like kind of flowy, kind of Chinese influence in this. Like getting close to Chinese dragon, but then more of a tiger.

A wild reveal. Both of these, look, there's no losers in this. No. Like in both cases, you can't believe they put this big of things into shows. There's some good like pink, yellow, and purple going on in Untrainable Dragon, which I really like. Kind of sparkly, I guess.

Maybe not, maybe it's just the way the photo makes it look. That's Zau though. Yeah. I was front row for this show. Wow. Yeah. photo makes it look. That's Zau though. I was front row for this show. Wow. Yeah, it was a big deal. When that thing comes out, maybe if I was front row for Untrainable Dragon.

Yeah, we were further away, but then you feel like it pulls you in closer because that wingspan is insane. It's almost as big as yours, Mike. Yeah, it's true. Untrainable Dragon would not be able to do the Fast and Furious coasters. That would not.

They put that puppet on. Right. Jack Clearance's, yeah. Right. And character, look, there's more going on character wise, not that that's the point of it, but you know, you think just, you know, anger, just like, you know, chaotic, can't be dealt with,

can't be trained, but then it's just motherly love is all it is. Yeah, the dragon was trainable. It turns out the dragon was trainable. Trainable, I mean, sort of changes. I trained him. So. Zau Bu, or whatever, like, I think it's the design, specifically.

It gives it a personality. It gives it a scariness. It's kind of cute on some level, but it's more scary. Those paws do a lot. But it's intriguing. Yeah. It's giant. And it's kind of, yeah, like the main,

the way they did the mane, where it looks like there's like a bunch of like little worms, or big worms I should say. It's just, it's both, it's that, it's like a LeBubu. It's like kind of creepy. Freak LeBubu. It's kind of creepy, but that's part of it I think. And I'm not a big, I'm not, I don't have any LeBubus.

I'm just saying, I think that's what the draw is for this phenomenon. Do you have any LeFooFoos? I don't. I have a Pop Mart Mickey that's what the draw is for this phenomenon, this transformation. Do you have any Lefoufous? I don't. I have a Pop Mart Mickey that's kind of similar, but I don't have a Lefoufou. The very trendy, current, cute Lefou pillows that are. Yeah.

From Beauty and the Beast. Yeah, is that what a Lefoufou is? Lefoufou is like Lebooboo, but a slightly different face, I think. Wow. There are Lebooboos and Lefoufous. I thought Lefoufou was a fake Lebooo, but a slightly different face, I think. Wow. There are Lebooboos and Lefoufou. I thought Lefoufou was a fake Lebooboo.

That's what I thought it was, I'm not sure. Cause now you're seeing him in malls, ever since you mentioned him, like now I see him in malls all the time. Oh, they're everywhere, yeah. Is this the thing that's, are those for real though, or are those knockoff? Is Lefoufou a knockoff Lebooboo?

There's apparently, there's a lot of knockoffs around. Yeah, Lefoufou I believe is a counterfeit little boo boo. Okay. Oh my god Yeah, I did say the boo boo's for sale on a toy website because they were the anime crossover So it's like you gotta be careful though one piece little boo boo. You think that's bootleg? I don't know I'm okay It sounds like there's a lot of different companies making things that look like it and who knows? Love the laziness of the ripoff. Well how are we gonna tackle the La Boo Boo market? I don't know, La Foo Foo?

I think that's the general name for it. I don't think that's a brand. I think that's how you shame people who bought fake ones. Oh, okay, okay. Oh, it's an unofficial? Oh, that's a La Foo Foo. Oh. I have not, I don't know why I know this.

I haven't gone out of my way to learn this. I don't own them. Let me see your bag. You got any boo-boos or foo-foos on there? I'm rocking a naked purse over here. Oh, okay. Just a fanny pack with a whole bunch of nothing. Taurus.

I will say I took some of my bag charms off my purse this week. I did see your purse. Yeah, I woke up and was like, it's over and just unclipped them. Do you have a lot of bags? Do you have a way to explain this? You had a lot of bag charms? I had a few on my purse,

but I just felt like it was too, it's too much like, gotta put my bag charms on in the morning. And so I removed them and it felt good. Well, I have two bag charms here. Yeah, Mike can relate. Yeah, Mike's still got his bag charms. I got Leatherhead and Muck Man

hanging out of my bag here. These are these like clip, these like blind bag clip, what do you call them, clip bag clips I guess? Ninja Turtles. That's a fake muck man, that's a fuck man. That's a muckoo woo woo. That's a knock off.

Don't say that, I bought these from a guy over in the third street promenade who told me they were legit. Very trustworthy guy who ran away after the transaction was done. Now that I think about it, when I went to Universal this morning, when I still felt healthy in my body,

I did look for my ET keychain to put on. I have a little ET and a little sweatshirt. Oh, really? So you're still weaning off of bag charms? Well, I'm still here. So I went to the area in my closet where they are, and I pulled it out, and I was like, oh, they're all duffy.

They're all duffy. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I think I am just prejudiced towards most bag charms because I only crave Disney ones. That is where like the Labooboo trend originates is bag charms growing popular in Asia. I think it has to be. Yeah.

What you just pulled out was not a bag charm, but rather a Pepto-Bismol. My final Pepto-Bismol. Okay, you're popping it. All right, does that put a time limit on what we have to do here? Listen, let's just see how far we can go. Again, I got a full sleeve of saltines in my fanny pack.

Like, I am a red baby. I might ask some. When the sleeve is done, then we can't keep going. That sleeve is gonna. We're also up the street from both the Walgreens kitty corner from Rite Aid Aid and the CVS across from a different CVS. Which is further in the studios. That is comforting to know because for people

who don't know geography, I did have to pass Universal Studios Hollywood on my drive here. And so I like literally this happened a few hours ago and then I went home and then I came back. Oh I was wondering. Yeah and I drove past and was like, oh scene of the crime. Scene of the crime.

Your bag looks a little gray. Did you wrap up some veggie burger and put it in there? Maybe you'll be better at dinner. Give it to Jason, Jason will eat a half eaten gray veggie burger that made someone sick. Jason, I gave him a free veggie burger right now from the same batch that you ate it. He would take it if it was free.

Yeah, would you eat it if I had leftovers? Just Homer eating the long sub. If it was free, he would do it. Oh no. If you said 50 cents please, then no. I will leave this record, drive up, go to Mel's, get you a veggie burger that I will pay for I would say just get a prize but I don't even know if they're I'm worried about

the chicken Caesar salad not good no no no one should there's no way any salad in the park at Universal Studios is anything you should have said daughter we're going to eat the novelty Amity jaws food at the park entrance Let me tell you when I'm realizing this burger might be coming back up and I'm walking past and I see a banner for a vegan crab dish Yeah, I've had it I don't really love vegan crab but no no How could been how many days from now will Jason be proudly posting photo eating the vegan crab?

Vegan crab problem. It was a crab cake, I think. Lost me for a week from the vegan crab. Okay, let's keep plowing. Wait, do we even finish? No, we haven't. Zowoo, I'm voting Zowoo. All right, knee jerks, get them out.

Because I don't think I have mine yet. I'm going onrainable dragon same You don't I mean you don't have the show without the untrainable dragon you have Cirque Arcannou without Zoe and we're already representing with being bird Yeah, that was is the big like wow can you believe it? As a mother I need to support the untrainable dragon Yeah, yeah, yeah. Support other, yeah, yeah. You put me in a hole. You can relate to sometimes you felt mad

and you want to light the room on fire, but it's only due to protectiveness. You've lifted some cars just in case, you know. Some pianos. It's been a goal of mine. I literally went to a, remember when like Brie Larson lifted that Jeep? Remember when Brie Larson pushed that Jeep?

That happened. No. Really? Oh, we have a very different internet feed. Yeah, yeah. We do from Jason. This is what we encounter all the time. I faintly remember that. That's where a lot of the problems come from.

She got so strong for Captain Marvel, she pushed a whole Jeep. Whoa. Oh, okay. All I remember is Linda Cardellini lifting the car in a human giant sketch from 15, 18 years ago. You're referring to a fake thing.

Yeah, fake thing, yeah. I guess I was too with the dragon lighting the room on fire, but Brie Larson actually did it. She pushed a Jeep and then I went to her gym after that. I was like, if they can make this woman push a whole car, they can make me be strong enough to open a door without making a noise. Is that like a strength, it was a strength training show

or was like an emergency and she lifted it? No, this is just her being like, this is how fit I am. Okay. Oh, that wasn't like somebody caught, what I was picturing was somebody, there was a car accident, someone started filming, Brie Larson burst out of a car, picked up the car. No, this was like, she was so strong

from all the training she did for Captain Marvel that she's like, I wanna push a car, and then she just pushed a car. Was the car neutral? Yeah, was the car neutral? I don't, all I know is that, You guys are both like, probably neutral, I think it was neutral.

I don't think she's that strong, I think it was neutral. Well, the incels in the room are really making themselves present. Oh boy, get them. The car was going 5 miles an hour, she was just right behind it. She was right behind it. Was it special?

I mean, I could do that, I could do that. It's very cool. I got a big wingspan, I could do that. She's so strong to push a car. Yeah. Impressed. What was it like with them with the big rope? You know, they have those contests

where people like pull the car with the rope. I think it was more, I think it was push. I think it was more push not pull. Push. All right, well I gotta look this up. I did not see this. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Okay, I think I'm going dragon too. Yeah, you know. Okay. I think I'm going dragon too. Yeah, you know. Okay. Supporting the monster. Thank you. Not an incel and I'm supporting the mine. I believe Brie Larson. I'm a Brie Larson trooper.

Well, I am an incel for Zowu. We both. I don't know what the name for that is. There's gotta be a term for it. Zencel. Zencel. Zenzel. Okay, Potter Furries. Yeah! Oh, this is so tough.

Demiguyz, which is the name of the furry guy who comes out of the suitcase in Lyserk Arcanu, the first creature that you see, the first fantastic beast in the show. Which everybody guessed when he a creature that you see the first fantastic beast. Fence of magic. Yes, yeah, indeed. In the show.

Which is everybody guess when it fits out of that whole space. And then Mooncalf. Mooncalf, you brought to our attention. This is a window display, one of several magical windows displays in Potter Paris. Yeah. Tell us about Mooncalf. So I was basically like basically at this media event,

there was a nighttime portion, and you were allowed to be in the lands up until a few minutes before the fireworks show was. And I was like, I'm staying in this land as long as possible, I'm not leaving. They had to forcibly remove me from lands during the day, it was a whole thing. They were like, ma'am, you need to leave,

it's been 45 minutes over when you were allowed to be here. But I got to see it all. So I was walking around, because they were starting to do that thing where they're pushing people from the back of the land, like from the attraction, starting to push forward to get everyone out. And so I couldn't make it in a store.

So I ended up just in this little corner and I saw this moon calf, which at the time I didn't know it was called that. On my podcast, I called it a worm. And thankfully a few listeners were like, that's a fully established character. But I just kept calling it worm because it looks like a little worm.

It's like a little standup worm with these gigantic eyes. And it's just, it's so epic universe that you're just standing there and you look in a window and there's an animatronic just wiggling around. No purpose except to like bring you joy. It could have just been a shaded out window that they did nothing with, but they put in this magical moon cast.

Geez, those are really great. Hard to argue with those eyes. They're beautiful eyes. Yeah. The demiguy's or whatever it's called, I am a sucker for a character that sneaks around. I don't know what it is, but as soon as that thing comes out and just like puts his,

I swear, maybe this is what it was, but it puts the little paws in the air like this and like does this, I'm done. That's my guy. So unfortunately, even though I do think Mooncalf is cuter, the motion of the demigod is the character that comes out from its little sneak sneak is something that is too hard to deny for me.

Who are your other favorite sneaky characters? That's a great question. Because I completely relate, but I just can't please them. Pink Panther? The spy who versus the other spy, both spies. They sneak around. That's true. Get them into theme parks.

Yeah, I'm trying to think. There's some other one I'm trying to think of. It'll come to me if you guys wanna keep talking. I ambiguously see one. Maybe I'm hallucinating from the burger. Is there a Star Wars event? Well Yoda's kinda sneaky before. Well he's rascally.

He's a scamp. Yoda's very scampish before he reveals that he's Yoda. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, there's a, I mean, it feels definitely cartoon. There's a lot of cartoon characters that would, I'm sure Bugs Bunny did it in one of his things with Elmer Fudd He snuck around a tree or something. That's just a common, but I'm a sucker for it. Yeah

Little like he looks a little scared. Maybe needs a little bit of help need some support Yeah from the kids who have to smuggle him wherever and like that my guys has like a kind of a creepy blank face as well Yeah, this is one where I'm just, I'm overruling my cute, like my cute radar. My cute meter. Seeing the video snippets of Demi guys with no context, I immediately was like, who's this nasty little freak? Who's this subcategory of creature, nasty little guy? Like, cause he moves kind of creepy yeah you're right he does look

a little like you could be in the shower and look out the window and see him yeah yeah there's a sinister quality to the demo guys and like moon calf is so cute the eyes are insane the eyes I'm trying to remember the eyes remind me of a toy like a rocking horse I had as a kid. I think it's still in actually my garage with these giant eyes that are like, are like, look, obviously they are fake, but I'm just saying like, they almost look like diamond, like a diamond or something with a pupil. Is Mooncap hiding any secrets? No, I asked around and someone told me that apparently,

and this hasn't been verified, but apparently that Mooncap is waiting hasn't been verified, but apparently that Mooncalf is waiting there for its owner, but its owner's never coming back. Oh no. Oh god, like Fry's dog in future drama. I didn't want to inquire further or prove it to be true. Or like Dr. Tootsom waiting for her parents. Same thing.

I think maybe I have to go Mooncalf now because of that sex. I don't want to be the parents who don't come back. But I brought Mooncalf to the table, and we can't choose Mooncalf. Why not? We have to choose Demi-Guide. I appreciate what you're saying, but I don't think that you don't have to do that.

Why so definitive? Because the moment that he mentioned, that Mike mentioned, of when that thing just crawls out, you know you're in for a good time. Yeah. Yeah, it tells you what kind of show you're watching. It's a magic trick, part of a magic trick. Huh, yeah, and I guess we voted for the excellent plumage

and this is the thickness and viscosity of the hair. Also, I feel like a more well-established character. We know more, like we've seen this character more. We've seen him presumably move around, like be up to, you know, be up to stuff. Sure. And this Mooncalf is like beautiful and a great addition, but.

Okay, Jason, where you going? Yeah, Mooncalf, I think Mooncalf is pretty cute. Only because he looks like a minnow. Um, hmmcalf. I think Mooncalf is pretty cute. Only because he looks like a minnow. In the interest of moving things along, I don't have strong feelings. And I think I'll flip to Demi, guys. I like that argument. Yes, a great reveal, a victory for scamps.

Also, how much would you love to be just like hanging out in Orlando and be like, oh, what do you do? And that's someone's job. Oh, yeah, true. And then you're like, could you do a little sneak for me? Show me the fingers. Can you just hop up on the bar real quick?

Could you sneak, there's a corner over here. Can you sneak around it for me and peer your head out? Because I'm looking for that experience. Magic, magic. Okay, now we finally start getting some Nintendo representation because I know there's not a lot of Nintendo in here because I don't think Donkey Kong is a creature I mean depending but yeah he would be he's kind

of too smart to be a creature I think I mean I guess a lot of these are smart but yeah I don't know again anybody throw any in here creatures still in play I mean Yoshi could be well and and there there are some yes This could this category horn dogs Ramby from Donkey Kong Country who pops out of the great and Erumpment from battle at the ministry a rump mint a rump mint now if you have been on the ride or been on a ride Watch the ride through video the ride. It is a big jaw dropper when you get a giant creature animatronic.

A Rumpman is huge. This is a room-sized animatronic. Yeah. Oh, we liked him. It is shocking that size. A Rumpman? I liked him. Here we go, what's up with a Rumpman?

I liked him because we paused for a second. Not where I thought this was going. The motion sickness. Why don't you like the rockman? You didn't feel like you were, I don't know, taken back to Epcot like 25 years ago, technology wise. I would prefer to be back in Epcot 20 years ago. Every way.

Yeah, I'm preaching. And on the page of prayer. The skin looked so fake. The whole thing just looked, it barely moved. It just looked like a robot who moved a little. It was not, it was not the wow moment that they intended it to be. But you know what? I look, I was, I was tour guide. I come from the, I got to spend every day one magical summer with King Kong, who yes, probably moved more than this, but maybe

not his face. Uh, he wasn't the most complicated animatronic ever. I'm just, I guess I'm a sucker for size. Okay, but to go off of that, like King Kong, that's a character we know. Like we are interested in King Kong. We're coming to that with something to grasp onto. This is some weird fucking rhino. A rumpman. From a film that nobody cares about.

I have no idea what it is, and I don't know what the plot of that ride is or why it's happening, but it was a big cool thing, and that just overrides a lot for me. It is a big cool thing I was also very happy with it the Rumpman. I mean you look at a Rumpman and he looks old and sick That's for sure like the like the giant triceratops Yeah, and like his horn that is full of energy looks like it's killing him It looks like it's dude's like growing just like out of control on his forehead the energy looks like it's killing him. It looks like it's growing, just out of control on his forehead. The energy looks like it's, yeah.

That's a neurological problem, yeah. I don't like the character at all. As I'm looking at his face, I do understand why the thing just going, it is unpleasant looking. He seems like he's in pain, the more I stand at this. Whereas Rambi is giving you a little sass.

I love Rambi. Don't get me wrong. I'm not excited to vote against Rambi. Rambi has been a friend of mine for 30 plus years. I was in Donkey Kong Country. I was amped to see this guy in real life. I absolutely was. Rambi, you would ride on the back of him

after you unleashed him from a crate in Donkey Kong Country. Poke those crocs. Just ram them in the butt. Years ago, the music playing in Donkey Kong Land. Poke those crocs, ram them in the butt. Which came out over 30 years ago, the music playing in Donkey Kong Land. So don't get me wrong. Arrrrgh! They would say. Yes, and then yes.

Did you ever play this, Jason? Well, yeah, I have a very specific memory of playing this because we were a Sega Genesis household. So, I would play Super Nintendo when I would, my mom would leave me and my brother in the boys section of Sears, because that's where video games used to be because they used to just be for children.

So you were saying you were both little Sears boys. Oh, I was definitely a little husky Sears boy. There's an episode of Detroiters where they're making a commercial for a husky boys clothing emporium and Kevin Nash shows up as Tim Robinson's father, the Kang Kremlin. But yeah, I have very fond memories of playing Donkey Kong Country on the tester Super Nintendo at the boys section. And then come come along come along

More husky pants to try on some dockers They'll have to be handsome in a husky plaid. Oh It was great being a 14 15 year old with that many pleats in their pants in 2000 2001 we're as sad as an arumpment to begging to go to Old Navy device of darker khakis Yeah, I don't know rambi I I like the to these given popping out of that box Yeah one like they're they're almost making the same face But one is small and cartoony and one is giant and moany and full of wrinkles Rambi's like the pop figurine of a Rump Man.

That's a good point. Very good point. Yeah. Huh. Does he almost get everything done, but on top of it, he's cute. And he's something I love from childhood. Oh, shit.

Am I flipping? I'm feeling very malleable. Anybody's convincing me with any passion argument. The more I zoom in on a Rump Man, the more I'm faced with my own age and time passing me by in a way that makes me very uncomfortable. A rumpment.

A rumpment does that for you? Look at those wrinkles. I've done, I bought a thing for under my eyes, I talk about red light and mascara a lot, but I've made a purchase, this metal thing that I put some stuff around my eyes and then I rub it, it's in the freezer, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, oh yeah. It's in the freezer, I know what I'm talking about? Yeah, oh yeah.

It's in the freezer. I put it, keep it in the freezer and then in the morning you just put this sticker around your eyes and then you use this piece of cold metal to rub around your eyes to get rid of your dark circles or your wrinkles. Wow. Yeah, to de-puff.

Yeah, to de-bright. Yes, to de-puff. Does it work, either of you? I don't know, I just started using it. I'm too lazy and I forgot it was in my fridge. Oh, so you have it, wow, okay. I have like a big, it's like a, how do I explain it? Like a, okay, like a soup, like a big ladle,

like a ladle, but the ladle's filled with like a meatball that's all metal. And so then you go around your eyes to cool the whole thing, but I- De-aging meatball. It's been in the fridge for about two years and I forgot about it until this moment. Wow, okay. Well, maybe I'll forgot about it until this moment. Wow.

Well maybe I'll forget about this, I don't know. I need to take photos to see if it's actually helping. But yes, in Rumpmint, I hate to be rude, but a Rumpmint could use a cold piece of metal. Couple of meatballs, yeah. He's a before photo. For sure. And Rambi's after, yeah.

Huh. In Rumpmint might be the older British character actor that like, oh I don't know if I wanna see them in this. I'm happy they got the work, but they seem like they're suffering. Russ. Rumpment's being replaced by Rambi for the reboot. We're casting him down.

I thought I was going Rambi when this started, and I think I'm going Rumpment. Huh. There's something just pulling me into the life that's been lived by a Rumpment. See, I'm going, I think I'm going Rambi, because Rambi's funny. Rambi is funny, don't get me wrong,

but a Rumpmunt, just the world-weariness in the eyes of this, I guess it's technically a rhino, but it's some sort of magical creature. And the horn is cool, it's just, I don't know, it just suggests so much. So big, it's such a, yeah. I think going to Rumpman. I don't know, I think something about the,

I hate to hold points against the thing for being older. But that was a, it was a. Hey, hey, I'm not ages. Less than that, I think just like. He's talking about himself. That's what he's saying, his own criteria. It just wanted me, I don't know, like under the neck, it just looks like you can see the panel.

I don't love the construction around it. Yeah, it's less that. It's more, I guess, just like as we've discussed Aruntment, I've gotten bummed out. But Rambi brings nothing but joy. I love Rambi. I think I am going Rambi. Yeah, I'm going Rambi. Wow.

Wow. Yeah. And I just like getting some Nintendo in there. Now Jason, this is our last opportunity to get Creature from the Black Lagoon in, should you still want to get Creature from the Black Lagoon in, but Creature from the Black Lagoon will be going up against babies. Yoshi's fighting over a berry and the weird little baby

gronkles who hatch in Hiccup's wing gliders. That's a really fun part of the ride, where you move through an area and he's like, we better get out of here, let's keep moving. But then you back up the other way instead, and then like have to, like now you're stuck there and you have to watch him hatch. Spent a few extra minutes in this part of the ride too,

but I'm not waiting. I'm not waiting it, cause we also, before he passed and Garfield got more grumpy, we would call him Mr. Grunkle a lot. The name of the grumpy neighbor in Richard Scarry's Busy World. Mr. Grunkle. RIP, Garfield. OK, let's see.

It's really just, and I chose these Yoshis just because they're kind of like No, no, no regular Yoshi doesn't feel like a creature to me. Yeah, yeah, I know he is. He definitely is But I there's something about these babies. Yeah, they got those Muppet eyes. I love them Yeah, yeah, they got that glazed over and I love I mean like I've made my feelings known about how exciting it is to see Yoshi berries physicalized. They all made me so happy. I'm biased here.

They're my favorite guys in a ride that I might like more than a lot of other people. At the same time, Gronkles, Gronkles cute. Those cute little bites. They're really cute. So there's Gronkles or the similar looking type of baby dragon who appear in the show, Untrainable Dragon. And when they appear, when babies hatched,

and I'm looking at babies and a mom being protective of babies, I teared up at this moment of the show, but A, because of the grand production value, but B, because I started really missing my new baby, because he's a little bit of a gronkle right now. His vibe is definitely like if you look him up the kind of like maniacal just crazed and he's a big eater he's a way better eater than my oldest just devours and he kind of he has a gronkle about it. So the fact that these made me tear up

because I was missing my baby at home yeah I mean I'm geez I'm slanted on both of these I really yeah, I don't know it is strong feelings anyone wanna lock one in Or do we put in the creature from the back lagoon to fight all of the babies? I know the creatures not gonna win this Babies very baby our the baby swipe yeah, I come Those Yoshi's though they the short limbs short limbs kill me Those Yoshi's though, the short limbs kill me. I'm a big fan of short limbs. You know what?

This shouldn't become a referendum on my baby son. Sounds like it's going to be though. The arms and the legs are like exactly like the kind of husky flubsiness of the arms. That's exactly how my baby looks right now. Yeah, I remember that face And but they are longer. Yeah, the limbs of the Yoshi's. Yeah, and then they have their little shoes I like Yoshi's little loafers. Oh my god. I love the shoe. I like that Mario Yoshi's as well their eyes they're like little like they're little stoned Yoshi's

Yeah, so and then this one I don't think I'm gonna be able to separate my affection for Yoshi. But again, Yoshi's been my friend for 30 plus years. So I feel like, even though the Grunkles, maybe if I was coming in completely cold and I'd never seen either of these, I would go Grunkle, but I think I gotta go baby Yoshis. Sure, sure.

Anyone else locking in? I agree. There's something about those Yosh's yeah Jason I think I gotta go for uncles oh my god they're just okay okay I did not mind spending extra time with them did you how much time did you spend with Yoshi at Sears though at Sears I don't know briefly yeah that's what I don't think no I don't know, briefly. Yeah, that's what it is. I don't think, no, I don't think they swapped the games in and out very much there, so. Well, Donkey Kong Country would have been

after Super Mario World. Are you guys, but then the second Yoshi's? Well, but before Donkey Kong Country, it was a very nasty, loner, virtual boy. Oh. Oh, wow. Okay. Just sweat crusting on those iPads. Okay. Just sweat crusting on those iPads.

Okay. I, again, I shouldn't vote against my, I'm not voting again, they aren't my son. My son isn't a gronkle. Keep saying it. I can see my son in baby Yoshi's as well. I mean, yeah. And good colors too.

Nice to see a blue and a and just and fighting over it We didn't end up using little baby dragons were fighting over a fish. This is a this is a cute tableau It maybe represents them as well baby fights baby fights are represented if we go with Yoshi Yeah, go with Yoshi. Okay, that brings us finally. So we're gonna have to pick up the pace here We sure are tougher to say yes to pick up the pace here. We sure are. Makes it tougher to see, yes. I think I'm out of, I think I'm out of Pepto Bismol, so.

All right, all right. We shall see. Just keep us aware, make it like the rose petals dripping off and beating the peace. It's okay, the saltines are intact. All right, all right. When the last saltine falls, 20 seconds. They will know.

Okay, okay, so. 20 seconds in society's round. Okay, shit. All right, meet and greet Toothless versus Big Blue Bird. Oh. Ooh. I mean, that's unfair, but. This is a card shit. Because Big Blue Bird. Oh. I mean that's unfair but. Because Big Blue Bird is beautiful, but I will say this and I didn't say it earlier,

this Toothless. See, see. God damn it. See. Yep. Uh huh. This Toothless is handsome. The untrainable restaurant.

Don't we think this Toothless is handsome? There's something handsome about that. Yeah, I can see that. He as well is handsome, yes. He's handsome. He is aging into handsome. He's something handsome about him. He's cute as well as handsome, yes. He's handsome. He is aging into handsome. He's strapping and there's something about it in the detail with his face that I find handsome. Like I'm not attracted to,

but like there's something aesthetically handsome about him. And I think it partly is because I feel like toothless is muscular. And I'm like, maybe because I'm such a wrestling fan, I'm like attracted to muscle. Miring, yeah. The musculature big muscular Toothless so this is tough for me because I find both of these characters appealing

From an aesthetic. I'm going to some air to up there. I did it there goes Give me a saltine that'll fix my brain. I Know I you know I I was happy when big blue bird won, but I have no affection, especially for Big Blue Bird. I'll go Toothless. The plumage though. The plumage of Big Blue Bird. 20 seconds, 20 seconds. Toothless.

All right. Is that unanimous? Toothless. I touched him and he closed his eyes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, can't touch Big Blue Bird. Eyes are gonna be pretty key in this, I think. Uh...

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Okay, so next matchup being Grump versus flying untrainable dragon toothless. Whoa. Boy, do we really let two toothless, how far will dragon toothless. Whoa. Whoa. Do we really let two toothless, how far will two toothless go? And then Grump, we got a lot of the same stuff. Is Grump handsome?

Does he need to be handsome? No, he's not. I don't find him handsome in the same way I find toothless handsome. It's more of a cute thing with Grump in me. Yeah, okay. It's more of just that the limbs, short limbs, belly on the rocks. Yeah. and the shape of the mouth,

all very cutely aesthetic. Show Toothless, I feel like Grump always does what he is tasked to do. I feel like Show Toothless is kind of a coin toss if you're gonna see him working or not. That's a great point, because it took so much effort to see Show Toothless, but I saw Grump when he wasn't working and was amazed.

Yeah. Oh yeah, when he didn't even do his full spectrum of stuff. I was amazed that he just existed. Yeah. He's just lightly like breathing and snarling. He never let me down. Show Toothless is so huge and majestic though. I love Show Toothless.

I mean that's like- It's fascinating to watch it and like, your brain gets tricked. And I kinda want for it to become Toothless versus Toothless. I'm voting Toothless. I'm also voting Toothless. Okay.

We've not discussed what happens in the event of the time. We don't know. Will we face this event? I think I would rather see you battle it out for Toothless versus Toothless than to stand on Grump. Okay. Okay. All right, apologies to Grump then.

Sorry, Grump. Okay, so it will be Toothless versus Toothless. Where did we land in the last one? Untrainable Dragon versus Demi-Guides. Ooh. Ooh. Interesting. And now do we just put Creature in?

A three way battle. He sneaks in and takes it all the way. Yeah. Wow. He's one of my least favorite. This is hard. Creature's one of my least favorite monsters on that ride. Oh.

It doesn't do a lot. Yeah, it doesn't do too much. No sleep lighting. It's kind of more with the vehicles. Did you just scare me though? Yeah. He got me good. Yeah, but it's more like context

and kind of like flashing lights maybe. You doing. It did scare me though. He got me good. Yeah, but it's more like context and kinda like flashing lights maybe. You kinda know where to look though. Did you guys see the, cause Jane caught this and then found a picture of it, there is a hunchback in the bell at the top of the ride. Oh. I never saw it.

Oh yeah. It's really dark. I could sense something up there. I don't think I knew that there was a hunchback. That's cool. Interesting. Interesting. Uh, okay It's I'm look again. It's it's hard to say no to size. I mean untrainable dragon. That's a that's a massive figure Just stop her job jaw dropper

Hmm. Hmm. Can I recuse myself? That's probably yes. Why not? I'm a guy's least impressive of all of the designs on the whole list, but it's more about, but it's not about them. Yeah, yeah, it's character, it's attitude. I feel closer to Demiguy's than I do the untrainable dragons. Well, I agree.

Well, well, throwing another mother under the bus, now who's the insult? About one, moms are in it together. After that, we all stand alone. Every mom fits her huff. After that, I'm taking that Karen, damn. We're all friends until someone hits each other on the playground and then it's over. It's on, bitch.

Oh, slap rule is applied, got it. I'm going dummy, guys. I'm going untrainable dragon. I'm going Demi guys. I'm going untrainable dragon. I'm going dragon too. Oh, oh, it puts it in your. It's kind of like how do you compare the work that they did to make a gigantic puppet of that scale, versus like the physical work of one person

to be so amazing. Yeah. How do you do it? Well, I did it. You did it by voting. Do it by voting for it. Voting, yeah. I...

So, no. It's like, if we would have been the other way around, I would have said yes to Untrainable Dragon and then no to the Fly Around Toothless. Oh, interesting. But I feel like because we already have one of the big ass dragons from that show, I gotta go dummy gosh.

So is that a tie? That's a tie. And surely we have no idea what to do in the event of a tie. We don't know. What if? Do they both move on? Is it a three way?

Oh, yeah why not? Hey sure that's interesting Yeah, and then throw a creature from the black lagoon in there. I'm still I want that gun to go off. I think All right, ooh, this is a tough one Rambi versus Yoshi's fighting over Barry Yoshi's Yoshi's Yeah, that's point I might give it to Yoshi's yeah, yeah, I feel bad I feel bad too cuz Rambi also would hurt me Sometimes he'd come out of his if you haven't tamed him if you haven't trained him ever trained him You're not trainable. I out sometimes and he knocks into you.

Donkey Kong trained him. But you can ride him too? You sure can. OK. Doesn't sound like someone you play the game. He was getting called off to try on Husky overalls. It was the first two levels. It was a demo.

OK? I think he's in one of the first two levels. And I wasn't good at it. OK, well, there you go. Yeah, you did advance to to Rambi stage. And those pleats were calling my name. Those pleats and just hearing the phrase, well I'll take it to the tailors

to get it taken up anyway. A phrase that would haunt me for the rest of my life. Oh man. I'm fine with Yoshis, so. Yoshis. Yoshis. Okay, great, great, great. Okay, so, where does that take us? Now, should we just like, save the Toothless versus,

do we go backwards the other way? Do we go? Oh. An S. An S-strap. Untrainable Dragon, Demi-Guy, see, Matt, there's no way Demi-Guys is coming, I'm not sure either of them are coming at, although, okay, hmm. Untrainable Dragon versus Demi-Guy, see Matt, there's no way Demi-Guys is coming. I'm not sure either of them are coming out.

Okay, untrainable dragon versus Demi-Guys versus two Yoshis fighting over it. I like it. Strong feelings. I'm feeling Demi-Guys. Wow. I know, I know. I might go Demi-Guys

because I want nasty representation in the last round. Yes. I want a little freak to make it all the way. It can't all just be cute, there needs to be a little freak. Gotta have a wild card facing a one seed. I do miss the bird, I won't lie, I miss the bird. Oh, the bird would have been good in this round, yeah.

I miss the bird a lot. Should we just bring the bird back via this? Let's all say the thing we wish we could bring back right now. One, two, three. A rum creature from the Black Lagoon. A rum mint. I wanted to come in for the first time. What did Jason say there?

The bird. Two people said the bird? Oh, wow. Well, the bird could also knock out a tooth. How many people, and you said a rum mint. Yeah. I can't stop looking at this guy's face his old face Weathered who knows what horrors you seen well should this then be all right? You know what?

We don't have to be so locked it Follow the rules so strictly in the regular final fours. What if this is a five-way battle between Yoshi, Barry's Demi guys Erumpment forgive me. I'm trying to balance a lot here. Untrainable dragon and creature from the black lagoon. All of them together, go. All right. Let me think. They're all in it now.

Right. I'm trying to say, Jason wanted me to make this erupment my home screen on my phone. Trying to replace my wife and daughter with this big rhino. So I'm a little distracted is what I'm saying. Is your home screen and your iPad still Walter Cronkite from months ago? Yeah it is, yeah of course.

It's hard because at the end of the day the Demi guy is just being like ultimately what would win is just like a person in a furry suit, ultimately a low-fi, that there would be something interesting about that, for sure, because it would say, despite all this amazing technology and advancements in probably 3D sculpting and technology and robots that can break up a bomb issue, or a drug factory,

issue Factory That ultimately a suited character with some personality could win the whole thing that does seem interesting doesn't it What if we just like an interesting what if we know what else to be interesting? What if we did a coup and a rumpment just comes barreling back now? You're not gonna have an argument for me Against with something. You have to maybe find consensus. Well, can we end this? I think it's Demi guys.

Yeah. I think if we end this episode with a listener poll. Oh, that's interesting. The listeners decide. That's true. We've never done it that way. Right, we've never done that either. Would that be satisfying or would it just happen

and you go, okay, I guess it's this? Might be not satisfying. Well, let's leave that as an option if Carly's saltines begin to run their course. I'd say I'm slowly declining, but I'm not out yet. We also have to end the episode in a reasonable amount of time. So what we decided is the demigies and a Rumpman move on both because we cannot make our decisions today. Oh boy, if someone really loves the rules of these they're going nuts listening on their podcast. I mean I just can't it's like my it's like my brain is gray beyond

burger today. No my brain is doing bad choices. All right why not? Okay so now we got to make these Toothlesses fight. Okay, yeah, we gotta choose one toothless. Okay, this one we'll do. And then make, whoever wins that fight in a rum and or a demi guys. I think it's the, my heart is in the meet and greet one because very few of these can you touch and bond with.

Yep, I agree. I'm with you, why not? Yeah. And it's the hotter one. Because it has to be so up close. Mike wants to make sure that it's not only Jason's reason, but also the hot reason that is why walk around to, not certain I walk around.

Handsome, fit dragon. And it has to be like that because of the proximity, how close you are able to get. So are we all agreed on this one? I think so. Wow. Fuck you to the flying one. And to the untrainable dragon. Wow, okay, so the final two are

Meet and Greet, Toothless, and Arumpment, and Demi Guys are the final two. Wait, what happened to the baby Yoshi's? They lost. They lost in the five way, because you guys picked Demi Guys. Oh, I didn't understand. Unless, again, we bring back Yoshi's fighting

over the berries now. All right, sure. OK. Uh. Ha ha ha. That last half, we just could not deal with. All right. The final two is a four way battle.

Yoshi berries. OK. Someone was working really hard. I'm like, I'll track it, and I'll make the official form. And now they're like, well, this is all was working really hard. I'm like I'll track it and I'll make the official form another well This is all out the window now Meet and greets. All right Wow, this is a sort of absurdity that one would only find in Le Cirque Arcanoe Curiosity is absurdities

Okay, meet and greet toothless or um, meet demiguy's Yoshi berries. Okay, wait, meet and greet, errantment, Yoshi berry, what am I, oh demiguy's. Out of this group I have no question what I'm going with. The lights have been turned off on the creature. As another car is coming around the bend.

Which one would be the most satisfying to see eat a whole container of saltine crackers? I think. A rum mint. A rum mint, definitely a rum mint. Just watch, that would barely be a crumb in his mouth. Yeah, that's a bad rationale. That's a really specific rationale. I think I'm going for meat and green toothless

because he seems pure of heart. Wow, that's beautiful. Yeah. I mean, so are the Yoshi's fighting over the berries because they're babies, but. Yeah. But to maintain, but all babies are pure of heart. That's dime a dozen.

To be pure of heart when you get older and hotter, only two splits. Except the bad seed. That child, there's something wrong. I'm sure you're about that shot. I'm either gonna go with a rum mint or demi guys. It's down to those two for me. And I'm trying to figure out which one,

just something so grotesque about Arumpment that I can't look away from. I don't know if it feels right to reward Arumpment this late after all the Arumpment cheating, which I was fully participating in in part of it. But yes, but now I feel bad. Mike, if Ezra Miller is texting you, us a sign Don't have to be scared They connected after Mike said that the flash wasn't that bad

They are that episode like kept everybody You were one of the reporters in the George Clooney seat. I only recently saw. Oh yeah, the post-credits scene in the flesh. Worth it. Worth whatever they paid Clooney for 15 minutes of his time to not look like, yeah. He's Bruce Wayne. He was. Bruce Wayne at one point.

He reprises his role as Bruce Wayne from the 98 Batman and Robin, and he does this. This transformation comes via him being his regular self and not dressing or looking any different in any way. Possibly wearing his own clothes. Maybe I have this a little bit wrong, but it was supposed to be Michael Keaton again, signifying that Michael Keaton is just now Batman

in the DC universe. But because James Gunn took over and they rebooted all of it, they were like, that doesn't make any sense now. So the Michael Keaton thing was cut and they're like, oh, we need something fun at the end here. Call Clooney and it'll be like, oh, it's this guy from Batman and Robin. And that was the idea.

And instead it had zero pop cultural impact of any kind, despite it being one of the biggest stars revisiting a role that he himself hated. Except not really, because he didn't do anything and he just is George Clinton. You don't think the balance of power was forever a change? Not in my mind. It certainly was.

Maybe somebody else could. A lot of people point out it was changed. It was changed. The bombing of Black Adam changed the whole DC situation. So it did change it. He was right. Rob was right. I'm gonna hard cut off DC talk and throw it to Carly.

What are you thinking here? Oh God. Well, it's not gonna be a Rumpman out of me. I can tell you that. Okay. We're not gonna somehow bring you back to Rumpman. Okay. That, so.

That's not helping me. Mike is zooming in on the big scary blackness of a Rumpman's mouth. Why does his mouth look like when you take the flume out of Tiana's Biowadventure? Like his mouth looks like the hole in the flume out of Tiana's Bayou Adventure? His mouth looks like the hole in the mountain that you come out of. Hold that up again, Mike.

Listeners need to see what that looks like. Oh my god. Put it over your mouth. Oh. Terrifying. We're going to lose subscribers now. Yeah. Oh, nauseating.

All right. Like, for me, OK, so that audio animatronic reminded me of the Rainforest Cafe River Ride, which I feel like is not a comp, which is something I love, but not a compliment for the newest, most discussed attraction at a brand new theme park in 2025. So that thing is kinda on my shit list. I have to give it to the Toothless Meet and Greet

even though I would love, love to give it to the demiglies. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. And Mike's argument, Mike's counter argument is putting up a rummant nostrils to his mouth. There's so many flaps there, just truly. But that's on purpose, that's like, you know when the Rainforest Cafe animatronics age, it's not on purpose. That's just what years in Galveston heat has done to them.

Just being in a warehouse with water. A slow moving rapids ride. With no thrill. I mean, someone's going to get soaked, because there's a little brrrrp. But there's fire. It's a great ride. But not, it shouldn't be related.

There should not be a parallel between the two. Could we say all bets are off and then we just give it to one of the characters from the Rainforest Cafe ride. Rainforest Cafe River Ride, yeah. I was just at the Rainforest Cafe in Ontario. Oh yes. Oh, good one, yeah. It's our only one in the state.

Right, yes. Yeah. Right, yes. Yeah. Wow. Next closest is Vegas. This is, we must protect this now in Trump's America more than ever. Yeah, that's Wow. Next closest is Vegas. This is, we must protect this now in Trump's America more than ever. Yeah, that's true. Our way of life.

Yeah, I gotta go with the meet and greet one. So we now have two. So it requires, yeah. Cause Demi guys doesn't do anything. Sneaks. You know. Sneaks. Scampers around.

Scampers. Scampers, that's two things. I still miss that bird, but the bird wouldn't. The bird was awesome. We could still give it to the bird. I think that's what the competition is now, is between, do we all go two flips, or does bird suddenly?

Would either of you flip to bird at the end here, on the way out the door? I don't think so. I can't. OK. Mike, what are you locking in? And do you think you can curry my vote here? I think that Carly solidified it

by comparing Arumpment to Rainforest Cafe. I think that the type, like the animatronic is obviously brand new, but the skin does remind me of 25-year-old Epcot and Rainforest Cafe animals, which I have a lot of affection for, and I just, no one has more of a story to tell than a Rumpment when it comes to the characters.

And yes, I've been talking about Hot This and Sexy That, all of these, all this episode. Suck off that. Wait, hold on a second. Pornography when you see that. No, I didn't specify with pornography. But this rhino and the world weariness I

Just do something about it. I have to go around man This is where I should I'm gonna quote Carly's email in our email Oh days ago can this be read on my yeah, yeah, okay? Also, please know I fucking hate the arump Anyone loves it. We will it we will be fighting all caps lol I mean and that is where we landed at the end despite eliminating the arumpment I don't wanna fight Which is fair that has made it this is exactly what a debate episode would be I didn't know that

No, no, no, I didn't color anything. I didn't say just so you know Karina Is there a problem with the arumpment? You were like enough with the arumpment I want to get back that CG smear, the goo, the CGI goo. The CGI Harry, Ron, and Hermione. Oh, the deep feet. The deep feet. I'm not gonna get into the ride.

It's just, I liked almost nothing that was happening. Wow. I thought it was such a miss. I did like it, but I would never go to the mat for it to where I'd get into a debate about it. I wish I could be someone who loves it. Because some people seem so happy and so fulfilled. I've seen videos of people get off the ride

and be like, that's the best attraction I've ever been on. And that's the feeling I'm chasing whenever I go to one of these places. That's all I want. Yeah. Ever. And I mean, there are other rides at that park that I loved. Like I loved the coaster in Berkethom, it was fantastic.

I thought the shows, like that's how I felt at the shows. I was literally screaming inside of them. Like one of them I watched, I like watched them with colleagues and I was like next, I was in front of Robert Niles for one of them and he's like, oh brother, this one again. Like I just couldn't stop screaming. I could tell that he was like, she's crazy.

We're friends, but like it's just, I was losing my mind because the shows were so amazing. And I know I voted against people in the shows, but I just think the Arumpman is like, that's the creature in the ride. Like that's the thing we've been building up to, is this guy who barely moves and doesn't wow me. And then he goes, and then you used to whip away from him.

Yeah, if he like threw up or something, it would be cool. I mean, I might be able to fulfill that for you. Your upman is sick. Ron, help him. He needs Pepto-Bismol and saltines. Well, that's a universal. They love to spray you with water. Yeah.

So that should be their part there. I really don't like him. Wow. Wow. That's fascinating. Strong feelings. There's also, I think I would fight it harder if I wasn't so fully Monsters Unchained.

Like I have a favorite, it's that. It really helps that I started getting on that with 10 minute or no waits instead of five hours. What are you talking about? Anyway, this is a long roundabout for me to say, Mike, you failed to convince me with your sexy arguments. Although none of those were about the arumment. I just separately had a problem with those.

This was not the first bracketed episode where Mike's like, well, this one's kind of handsome. You got to agree with that. But you know. I'm a superficial guy. I don't know what to tell you. Well, I am going with the one that you did call handsome. I'm walking in Toothless, meet and greet.

The most handsome. The epic universe creature clash. I mean, I don't know. If I had to put money on it, because it represents a lot. It represents detail and care and handsomeness and hotness and everything that we're, you know, a lot of these only have one category. But I will just for one more time,

I guess for sake of argument, does Mean Green Toothless represent tons of sad wrinkles? And if we want that to be the part of the winning circle, then we need to revisit. Because Epcot has old man robots. Ben Franklin. There's nothing but old man robots initially. We don't get that many old man robots anymore. And this is the closest we have and it's giant. What do you think? Going back, come on.

It's like seeing an old, who's in it? Like Will Roger. It's like seeing old Will Rogers. It's like a giant Will Rogers. Massive. What if you zipped in and it was just a giant head of Will Rogers. Giant Will Rogers. Ben Franklin.

Oh, I would take it, no problem. There used to be- Hope's fun tales to spin for you kids. And what if Ben Franklin had a glowing horn coming out of his forehead, and it was punishing him because the energy was just surging through it. Just back and forth.

That would be better, I agree. That's how he invented electricity. He got struck by lightning on his glowing horn. Will Rogers says, like, we used to make things in this country, and Ben Franklin says, I think things were better when there were less stores. And it's just that back and forth for 20 minutes. And you just watch that debate for a little bit?

Yeah, and then the saddler liberty rises out of the ground. And then you leave and there is no trial, and it's not about Potter anymore. Yeah. That does sound good. I do like that. Are we generally happy? Can you live with this outcome. Yeah, that does sound good. I do like that. Are we generally happy? Can you live with this outcome? No, I'm not happy.

I'm furious. Well, I hate ending things on a... It's fine, you have to. We have to go. I don't like to end things on negativity, but I guess we do. I think if you touched his snout, you'd know. That it was the right decision?

Yeah, none of us got to touch him, and yet I think it was still, we? Yeah, none of us got to touch him, and yet I think it was still, we can assume. And we will try to touch him. Can we do a Final Four next year of the oldest man robots? That's right. Yeah, yeah. Throughout all of Spryce. Scariest oldest man robot.

Scariest oldest man. Yeah, yeah, all that. I mean, that's gonna be good for, because now we're gonna get a lot of American adventure going up against a lot of Knott's Calico Mine. There might not be room for scary old men from any other attractions. A couple presidents from the Hall of Presidents. The scariest presidents.

Yeah, we know a few of them. Yeah, I think that's maybe next year. And I bet there's gotta be a scary old man somewhere in Efteling. Has to be, right? Oh, 100%. In Dollywood or Kentucky Kingdom, there's gotta be an old prospector.

And then maybe you gotta get into wax museums in Monterey, scary decaying, showing the life that you had when you worked the land here, right in 1820 Alright, so that one will be a 64 way He's in all right, he's in okay, but he's got 63 characters to fend off. For now, that was a super fun thing to do. Carly Wiseau, you survived Podcast The Ride. Literally, I put the survival

into Survival Podcast The Ride this time. Mostly, there's not such a ticking clock, but you made it, you didn't even dig into the saltines. I know, I thought they'd be loud, but I was more concerned about digging into the barf bag I packed, and I didn't. Wow. Can we see the barf bag?

It's just a little baguete tote. I was going to bring. Does it have charms or just plain? No, it's just a tote. It's cow print. And I was going to bring a Ziploc. And then I was like, Ziploc bad when you're with other people. You don't want to be barfing into a Ziploc

in front of a crowd. Yeah. This would at least mask it. Oh, yeah. And it's reusable. What do you think would have been your move if it had to happen? Would you have stayed on mic to make it part had to happen? Would you have stayed on Mike to make it part of the experience?

Would you have excused yourself and gone a step away? You might not have had a choice. You might have just had to. I think it, I was expecting that I would, it would happen here with an audience. Geez, wow. And then I think I would have to stay on Mike. I would have to commit.

I would insist, yeah. I think I would have to be like, oh, think about Demi Guy's. I do think I would still be as. I think I have to be like, oh, think about Demi guys. I do think I would still be as upset about a Rumpman. Probably more so with a lot. Yeah, yeah, I would think so. It's very rare that anyone even sneezes on Mike. Yeah, I know, it really doesn't happen.

It happened to me once, I think, in eight years. Yeah, you're right. It's interesting, your brain just is like, we have things to do right now. I think this is all the time that you've never seen somebody sneeze on the Oscars or on Saturday Night Live. It really does not happen. Unless you probably are someone who's extremely sick,

I bet your brain just shuts it down. Mm-hmm. It's interesting. That's crazy. Because you'd think SNL with them just moving in temporary set pieces, there would be dust. Yes, true. Because the Oscars, that's a clean show.

Or that era where they did it where everybody had COVID. Yeah. It might have happened once. I thought you were gonna say cocaine. The 50th. Yeah, you're right. I almost never sneeze when I'm recording. Never, yeah.

That is weird. Wow, wow, well it'll be history when it happens. I am glad you didn't make history here today. I know, I was like. It's better for you and for us. It was a little exciting that I might have been the first person to puke on podcast The Ride. We wanna say thank you with a certificate

for one entree of your choice at the Tootsome savory feast kitchen, a phrase that makes us all go, eww, yum. I had a very bad Valentine's Day there. Oh man. Oh man. Yes. Yeah. Really bad. I don't know, cause any type of Valentine's Day

to have there other than bad. I was pregnant, so my husband couldn't say no. So we went there, and then he was like, I decline eating the dish that I've ordered, which was a pizza, which I second he should not have eaten. And then we went to Wendy's on the way home. You had to amend with a second meal. There was a fast food meal that was more satisfying.

Yeah. Is this, is Toothless, I'm gonna go the other way now. Is Toothsome, is Toothsome like the worst high profile restaurant in history? Well in Orlando I've had great meals there. Yeah it's great. Interesting. I've had a great salad there.

Mike, Orlando, how'd that work out for you? It was not the bad, I had to go flounder almondine and then I ate over by the Burger King on City Walk. That's when I bit into the side of my mouth, drawing the most blood I've ever drawn from biting my mouth. The fish was kind of weird, the vegetables were not great. The shake was fine and then Jason drank my blood.

I did not drink your blood. I did not drink your blood. In a wolf man-esque move. I finished your shake and ate some of your potato pancakes. Croquettes. Croquettes. This is a real like boule base of tummy ache. You got a milkshake and you got flounder. I wanted to try all the things they had Yeah, and I had it to go and then I they gave me that they gave me a brownie sundae instead of my meal

I had to go back in up to the bar to get the real meal I ate it They're like this is safer just eat They saw what you ordered and said, give him this instead. There's no way he's coming back. It was not, I mean, I've had a better meal there in Orlando. So I do believe it's better. Cause yes, the one out here is rough.

Well, mark our words, we will keep trying. I just want to remind Carly though, if you're ever at Tucson and there's a whole meal you're not gonna eat, put it in a box. Jason doesn't live far. That's right. Just drive it down to his house, he'll try it. Quick pop over bar.

I should have saved the other half of the burger. I actually was okay getting the power green salad at Hollywood, I thought it tasted fine. And the chocolate shake. Can I say fine, the highest praise ever given. Yeah, I didn't say it was amazing. Can you postmate something from Mel's inside the park if I were to pay for an annual pass

for the postmate's driver? The way it was my stomach just turned over. Oh no, we gotta get her out. We thought we made it and now we have to make sure that she still makes it. The bag is here, we're close. In case you don't, yeah, listener you can hear the bag.

Let's exit through the gift shop, is there anything you'd like to plug? Yeah, my podcast is very amusing. I have, there's a ton of fun ones. I mean, not that they're not all fun, I think. We had a lot of really great interviews lately. We had Ashley Eckstein on. We had Andrew Barth Feldman on talking about the Muppet Vision

ode that he wrote, which was really great. We did a big Epic Universe episode. I just went on a Disney cruise line sailing to Alaska, which I talked about. So there's a lot of fun stuff on the feed, check it out, just Google very amusing and it'll pop up. You are, yes, yours is a good theme park podcast to listen to if you want people who go to the places a lot.

Something that we, we're like, all right, Orlando once every 22 months. Yeah. I go and then it's like, oh, I have another trip. I didn't even get to do more than one episode On stuff that I wanted to do multiple which is why it's so nice to be here talking about everything but a rump mint And I hope yeah, I hope it was all enjoyable for you except for the I hope a rump mint comes in a different context to Hollywood Perhaps on the fast and furious coaster or something. He's sort of at the end or in the warehouse

So it's like Vin Vin and a rump mint together if he's not made of brick. He's sort of at the end or in the warehouse. So it's like a van interruption together. If he's not made of brick, he ain't coming. Okay. That's why he's made of brick, I'm fine with it. Brick skin. Well, thank you for this idea. This is a blast. Yeah.

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Just episode called arumpment. I think the name is a little nauseating too. Arumpment? Yeah. It may have turned me off. Like a sore tooth. Kind of like you forgot it. Every name in the JK Rowling universe,

also what a demon, hate her so much. Every name she thinks of is straight up garbage. I know, I didn't like having to look though. I already forgot, I've already, and I promise to never remember the name of Zowla or whatever the hell I read earlier. So many of the names. That's out of my brain by the end of the episode.

Is that a real thing from the movie? Yeah, a lot of them are in there, but I'm not sure about the bird. Not the... But the one, which was the big puppy that you liked? Is it Zu, Zu, the one thing from the movie? Yeah, a lot of them are in there, but I'm not sure about the bird. But the one, which was the big puppet that you liked? Is it Zu, the one sort of the Z? I don't wanna look it up again, because I don't wanna know.

Yeah, I looked that up. There is ties to, I believe, Chinese mythology for that one. But that's not in the movies? That is, I saw a sub-random video clip when I Googled it today. But I think the other ones are more originals. OK. I believe.

This is the next time when you inevitably go eat a toothsome again, even after this conversation. I will. Then cut to you in the hospital. Well, what happens is you've experienced a slight arumpment in your chest. Mm-hmm. Whoops.

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