Podcast: The Ride - Fake Rock (Music) Final Four

Episode Date: April 1, 2022

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Rock and roll. For decades, human musicians have been celebrated for their remarkable contributions to this beloved genre. We owe a great debt to the Setzers and the Joe Armstrongs of the world for their remarkable art. But what about non-human rockers? What about robot rockers? For too long, humans have overlooked their contributions to music. That all changes today.

Today, we celebrate our animatronic friends for their jerky guitar solos, their noisy jaws, and their tinny pre-recorded voices. We break down and determine which robots rock the hardest. The performers may be fake, but their ability to move us is very real. It's the Fake Rock Music Final Four on today's podcast, The Ride. In 1988, when asked why he shot John Lennon, Mark David Chapman said it was because the former Beatle was, in his eyes, a fake.

We believe so-called fakeness in rock and roll is, of course, no cause for murder, what word could be, but in fact, cause for celebration. Today, we reclaim the word fake and show our appreciation for fake rock and rollers who create very real moments of joy. This is the Fake Rock Music Final Four. I'm Scott Gairdner. Mike Carlson, hi. Thank you.

Thank you. It was important to... Everyone was thinking... Obviously, the specter of Mark David Chapman had to be, everyone was thinking about it. Oh, had to be invoked on the start of this podcast where we review, I guess, or rate children's robots. Children's robot bands that flap around.

Absolutely, Jason Sheridan in lockstep with this opinion. Yeah, I mean, coincidentally, every time we record, I have a copy of Catcher in the Rye on my person somewhere. All of our biggest influence, yes. Yeah, so here we are, another Final Four, and we're back to fake rock, but a different kind of rock. It's rock music, and basically what this is is a fancy way of saying anim uh animatronic musicians that's really

what we're just to clarify because there is a lot of rock music out there in theme parks there are live performers uh we're we're fans going way back of the bare metal family from hard rock park but they don't appear in this because those are suited characters. Could that be another competition down the road? Of course. But you have to put up your boundaries and set up your rules. So we agreed on this is an animatronic competition. Yes. So there are going to be animatronics, as always.

We always give these different qualifiers at the start of these because obviously things are going to be left out but we did our best to pare it down to some of the most elite rock and roll robots that are out there yeah and there are a number there's a lot of them and i think another clarification as many clarifications at the top as we can do more rules set them up and i'm sure we'll find more as we go but But also when we say fake rock, I think this is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame definition of rock, which of course includes blues and hip-hop and country, in the case of Dolly Parton, who rejected her nomination.

Something we might run into. Somebody might, one of these robots, if there's some, we might put this up on Twitter, and whoever owns that copyright might say we don't want them to be any, that's very nice, thank you, but no. Yeah, so all music genres are included. I think so, yeah. In this definition of rock. So, yeah, we will get a little bit, one of the things we'll do as we assess is think about like what Jan Winter might think about one of these robot bands. Or Wenner? Wenner? Wenner, shoot. I think I've said his name wrong. think about like what yon winter might think about one of these robot bands or winner winner

you mean or shoot i think i've said his name wrong every time i've ever brought it up on the show and it's it's happened before i think it has i think i've i think i've mispronounced yon winner's name it's one of those like why are we still in this why are we still affected on a daily basis by Jan Winner and Irving Azoff? Is that his name? Yeah, yeah, yeah. These never-ending boomer strangleholds on boring rock events. Not a day goes by where I'm not talking about an article from Cream magazine. Still.

Rock and roll changed the world. I don't know if everybody knows that it's important that all these people get the chance to reassert that every single year now let's burn an hour talking about who's america's beatles are if we don't correct this ccr is the band you know they might be in this very final four I think so yes we're gonna because what symbolizes American ingenuity

more than robot making along with rock and roll you put these things together it's an incredible combination as we're gonna find we're gonna talk about some of the best musicians out there some of the best musicians out there, some of the best music I think that's ever been made.

Clearly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. The sheer, the power of the songs that we're going to discuss. Is there anything we want to say at the top in terms of what we think we might be looking for? Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah. I think that like, yeah, as as we're saying like rock and roll now

is such a broad definition especially when it comes to the hall of fame so rock and roll for me you know it becomes more of sort of uh the essence of rock and roll it's not doesn't mean it has to be a certain tempo it doesn't mean it has to have certain instruments it has to be a vibe a cool vibe a vibe that makes i would say usually young people interested but now because how long rock and roll has been around maybe it has to get dad interested you know so these are the things i'm thinking about i'm not saying i'm gonna lay down a hard and fast criteria for for a winner in a bracket but i want to say like our definitions, I think really what we're going to do here is unpack what we actually think rock and roll is.

You know what I'm saying? It's a larger sort of idea. Geez. We're in like, now we're in Lester Bang's famous territory. Yes, we are. Is rock dead?

Well, we're lucky that if dad is supposed to be interested, that almost everything we're talking about is from the 80s and 90s. Yeah, that's a good point. Are there any recent? I'm looking at the list. What are the more recent? I mean, there's ones that are still around.

A lot of them are still around. Yeah, yeah. You can go see. But are any of these new? I would say no. I would say 1994, my man. Okay, yes. All right.

That might be as far as we go, right? That might be as far as we go, right? That might be as reset. I was going through a lot of these, watching clips of a lot of these, and I want to give some attention to the animatronic nature. Yeah. Possibly some weight to, like, how good are these animatronics? And, you know, I don't know that that'll be the deciding factor it could be a tie breaker but i also think uh a big one is uh i don't have a problem with click clack sounds i love click clack sounds but if that overpowers the music i think you're gonna lose points and

there's one competitor that i was a little disappointed to see i I wonder if we're thinking of the same one. Yeah, totally. A little too loud on that. Sometimes it adds to the charm, but it's got to be about the music. It can't override the music. It has to be about the music. I feel like I may be judging, this is

related to the animatronic idea, but I think musicianship, which is obviously contrived and done by the animatronic make, but how realistic are we in our performance? Because I think if the song is great, if it's the greatest song an animatronic ever sung,

but it's not being done realistically, and I think it's hard. As in animation uh um you know accurate piano guitar playing which you really admire the movies that are on uh in my house all the time because the kids like soul and coco which have fantastic very realistic guitar playing and piano playing um i think we'll get very close to that with some of these absolutely soul level uh yeah yeah very complex piano playing but that's sort of i'm gonna be i'm gonna be watching the hands for sure my eyes have been on the hands the whole time i think the hands another thing and in some of these i think it it was a disadvantage if it was original music versus cover songs.

I think so. But then other times I was like, I'm okay with this because maybe the other competitor was just weaker overall. So I don't mind the stronger competitor just playing, you know, a top 40 hit. An old tape, a kind of scratchy tape in a lot of cases right okay so we'll forgive a tape um anything else i mean we could just we could certainly dive in because some of my concern is that the the very first one is almost could be a full episode yes i think you're right it's a one seed versus a one yeah, yeah. Which people have tried to explain to me, tried to explain to us before, I think.

It's usually like a one seed versus 16th. And I'm like, I don't know. I don't know how the draft works. Why are you holding us to this standard of knowing about sports things? We made a little bracket. We know enough to know that there's a bracket. We went that far. We deserve applause for that.

People are talking about snake drafts and I just like the eyes glaze over. We will do no effort, okay, as far as learning how an actual Sweet 16 March Madness. Sweet 16? Do they call it a Sweet 16? Whatever the hell it's called. I don't know.

It doesn't sound right to me. As I said, it didn't sound right either. So, look, we will not learn. We did do a lot of effort of pairings that made sense. Yes, we did that, but we don't know how this works, and we will not know how this works. It will only get worse as the years drag on. Yeah.

I think you're right about sweet 16. Yeah, okay felt silly to hear um but yeah you're right no that in our minds how march madness works is the teams are paired by their thematic similarity yeah right that's why you put them the mascot of the team that's similar to another team's mascot is paired against each other. That's how it works. We should do it. I don't care about how they did through the year. Don't pay attention to that. Have we also not learned that we should probably just skip to the Elite Eight for the sake of time?

Of time? No, we have not learned that. Absolutely not. How many would get cut out of the picture? But we have an interesting uh qualifier this year too the first half we split it in two halves yes although i think now it's not so cleanly that we kind of tried to go that it's banned on one side and solo but some other ones rearranged and snuck in there there's kind of a wild card yes yeah but roughly it it is that way

so um the the first two match-ups are going to be pure rock this is this is rock and roll hardcore rock bands and the the big one to dive into and discuss is here we go munch's make believe band versus the rock ofire explosion uh munch's make-believe band from chucky cheese yeah rockafire explosion from showbiz pizza place um these competitors were thrust together combined together in a freakish fly like merging event called concept unification um the world chose munch's make-believe band corporate synergy chose munch's make-believe band but that's not a choice that we have to make right um so munch's make-believe band to clarify you know this some of this if you're listening to

the show but that's the band that chucky cheese is in and rock fire explosion is all these characters who we don't uh see so much anymore except maybe in these you know when they uh put out a music video singing to a more current song or what have you the the the uh owned by aaron fechter who got cut out of in in this whole merger situation yeah yeah they'll pop up here and there but yes the winner as far as as a visibility is obviously chuck chuckie cheese and munch and everyone um though they're disappearing they're not that many yeah classic robots we've talked about this before on the show are disappearing there's not a lot of full munches no more full munches or very few i think you'd have to it's

spread like most often you check just down in carson the band wasn't in there and that was that was unfortunate to see but they're they're around and they're obviously they're in our hearts and that makes us have to cut out i'd say the era where it's screens and puppets that all does it we have to judge the animatronic body of work right because unlike a lot of legacy brands chuggie cheese has adapted to like the band camp soundcloud era of music with original internet programming and we like we've said it before on the show we like that stuff a lot of it yeah yeah but are you allowed to there's some crossover i've certainly seen animatronics uh moving around to songs that we love, like another Chuckie Day. Yeah, that's true.

The Snoop Dogg-esque song that they do. But that's sort of an after, it's like, well, they're around so we can program them to do this, but I certainly associate that song more with the puppet era. Well, look, we can't completely take it out of our minds.

But I did try to focus on more of the classic era of the band of chucky cheese when i was looking through things and trying to make a determination i also want to say in case you're thinking oh these three fuckers are biased we have said on the show before we like chucky cheese we have more affection for it because that's what our childhood band was so i wanted to put that out there that we have said that before in case you want to, you're going to clip a piece of audio and you're

going to try to hold it against us if we pretend. We're not pretending. We have said that before. So I did an extra amount of effort to make sure I was absorbing the actual impact of the Rockafire explosion. That's good. Very good of you. Yeah, because i think my

my memories my association with munch's make-believe band is happy childhood memories uh my association primarily with the rock fire explosion is a documentary that is upsetting in multiple ways many different flavors of like oh no i guess yeah we can't hold some of the people against them it's uh their their own creators against this is about the music even though some of the characters are voiced by the creator uh erin fechter who strikes this as a little odd but we have to take that let's try to view this as a band as characters uh um let me let me say the the lineup here uh just who we're looking at musically in munch's make-believe band we got munch on piano right purple monster the squally peep pie plate the italian chef on drums yeah jasper jowls on guitar he jowls

jasper t jowls thank you. And Chuck E. Cheese and Helen Henney splitting vocal duty. Over on the other side, Rockafire, you've got Billy Bob Broccoli on bass. Fats Geronimo on keyboards, who's the gorilla. Beach Bear on guitar.

Duke LaRue on drums. Is Duke a bear or a dog? I guess he's like a space dog. Got a spaceue on drums is duke a bear or a dog i guess he's a he's like a space dog yeah yeah got a space dog on drums uh and then uh various singer a lot of singers in the mix it's kind of a sly in the family stone it's a mitzi mozzarella is the cheerleader mouse loony birds in there there's a sun and a moon various other characters spider i believe oh yeah believe. Oh, yeah, Spider lowers down sometimes. Yeah, what's the spider's name again? I'm not sure I know the name of the spider. Sorry, I had it on here.

We'll fully dive in later. I don't want our lack of awareness to rub against the Rock of Fire Explosion. Right, of course. I would say it was a pleasure to see this band a little more and get to know this band. Antioch? Yeah. And, of course, Antioch the Spider.

Antioch the Spider, of course. From the Rock of Fire Explosion. So, let me say, having listed that lineup, I'm impressed that we got a bass player that really fleshes out the sound, and I think Billy Bob brings a lot to the table. He's very jolly and lovable and fleshes out the sound. Yeah, and the band has more instrumentation going on, I think.

I will say also, look is a big part of bands. Image or whatever. Aerosmith didn't just get popular by completely just being one of the best rock bands of all time. They also have cool image. They have the scarves and everything. And I will say that I like sort of the vibe coming from the Rock of Fire explosion as a band. Even though each member has separate identities, they do form an interesting stage picture. Like Kiss.

They've all got their different themes. Yes, exactly. But yeah, they all feel of a piece together. Which I guess we were not talking about Chuck yet, but I do think maybe even more so than Chuck E. Cheese. Chuck E. Cheese feels like kind of disparate characters all on stage together. A little bit separate.

Not feeling like as much of a unit as i'd like that to feel sure i could see that um yeah i mean like i dig i dig some of these vibes a lot i a big fan of duke larue i regret not having looked into duke larue further before uh he's cool i i also want to bring up um it's a part of image this spins out from image yeah is uh the the instruments that's not the that's not the music you're hearing but it is a big part of right of the sound and and uh iconic instruments are definitely part of the picture of great rock stars and i just i think the i think the instruments are cool i like fat's geronimo's keyboard which kind of became munches i feel like they just they pretty much stripped that and because i'm looking at munches too i like his piano but aren't they the same so you got to give

maybe fat's credit for bringing that piece of gear and I also think a beach bear's silver guitar is very cool. I think he's got a great axe. I think, yeah, I think that the instruments look cooler in the Rock of Fire for sure. As opposed to like, I think, I don't really vibe with Jasper's folksy acoustic, I forget if it's an acoustic or an electric. I don't have the instruments memorized

but uh so i think he's limited in his guitar genre a little bit by with the country leanings yeah i mean billy bob in rock and fire has like kind of an old school country like square i don't even know what you would call that um kind of a very country bear-esque guitar there's a lot of those kind of instruments a lot of homemade instruments i'd say throughout the the competition uh-huh um so so yeah the instruments are cooler looking in rock of fire um the show itself like is it rolf de wolf who has the the puppet on stage oh i didn't even track those guys yeah there's a puppet too yeah a lot of characters rolf de wolf too is yeah he has like a bow tie but he also has like a puppet character as well

on stage that sings which is an extra element to everything as well so like they're putting on a show they have so much going on which i appreciate i mean it's very maybe east street band in a lot of ways as well not there's a puppet, but everyone feels like they have the right. There's no little Steven doesn't have a puppet on stage that he uses or anything. Are there any puppets in rock? Has there been any big band with puppets? Yeah. I know Beck brought a puppet.

He had a full puppet version of his concert going on on the side of the stage for one tour. That's fun. But I don't know if there's a regular puppet member of the band. Somebody tell me if I'm missing them. Inevitably, there's puppet music videos. Oh, certainly. Sure, yeah, yeah. Genesis and there's more.

So, yeah, I mean, I get why vibe-wise and look-wise some people say this is the superior band to Chuck E. Cheese. I do get it. Yeah. Because the vibes are stronger now that I'm an adult. And if I take away my nostalgia for Chuck E. Cheese, I try to take it completely away, I do go, oh, I'm a little more attracted to this. Sure.

Right. But in terms of staying power. Well, staying power, staying power of course and i and i will say this as far as look wise and interest wise i munch himself is so great yes yeah a little bit of muppet flavor yeah and i want to hug him and chucky wears often wears a tuxedo to show respect to the stage of course and you love that you never see it you love that you never see anymore yeah you love i mean like green day wears a tux when they're in the rock and roll of fame like when i think when they were and you love that. You never see it. You love that, yeah. Which you never see anymore. Yeah, you love, I mean like Green Day wears a tux when they're in the

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Like I think when they were playing with Ringo at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame a couple years ago, Billy Joe was wearing a tux to show respect. So that's good.

They were doing, they were backing Ringo up on Boys, which is a really fun performance if you haven't seen it. The famous Green Day tuxes. The Green Day tuxes. So yeah, also somebody on twitter pointed out a

billy joe armstrong starring movie that i have to watch soon and i can't remember what oh i think i've heard of this yeah i may have seen this trailer yeah yeah i didn't it's like a couple years old already at this point um so yeah that there's that but i but i guess my point about munch is just like munch is the thing holding Chucky on as far as interesting stage picture, I think, for me. Because, like, you see Munch, you go, oh, shit, I love that guy. That guy, that's my guy right there. Stronger front man, potentially. I like that they put his name in the band.

It's a fun discovery that it's not. What's the band? Is it Chuck E. Cheese? Right. Is it Chuck E. Cheese Rock Brigade or something? No, no, no. It's munch's make-believe man just make-believe band with the fakeness acknowledged in the yes right leave kind

of that ties into our spirit here it gives them license to do a lot more too it lets them break free of genre um is there a chance that we're over correcting by deciding with rockifier because pre-anticipating this possible bias i have only begun to start my thoughts on all of this so no i would say no i mean you have to give chucky credit too for uh different phases i guess in the way that the beatles had different eras evolved they've evolved yes that's true rock of fire is though beetles only have 10 years and it's all killer for the most part and rock of fire also has a short window well that's what i was trying to figure out who is the beetles and who is the stones in this case and it's rock of fire is probably the easier one to paint as the beetles I think that they're clearly the Beatles.

Not only that's correct and around for less time, but clearly a big influence on music to come in that they stole their, their skin was removed, but their skeletons remained. Just maybe there's a metaphor for how the Beatles have impacted. It's like so many, so many bands took their skeletons. But not only that, I was looking into what was the music that they played.

Rock and Fire Explosion did giant Beatles sets. And not just the early stuff. Maybe not even the early stuff. Full show of white album songs, which are a lot of my favorite i think i'm a white album guy so i was delighted to see that 12 minutes of a complex music right a risky music and then entire end of abbey road is a show that you could see the rocket fire explosion wow do yeah yeah i mean that's something yeah i was it's a little confusing to exactly because a lot of people have now had taken them after the fact and had them do these big like mega mixes so i was

getting a little confused i went back to the start yes with the music too because i found also they did a beatles medley so i was thinking okay where what's like the definitive rock of fire that's what i was looking for sure the definitive rockire, because I really don't know it. And I found a couple things. I found your first Rockafire Explosion album. Oh. It's got a great picture of them on the front. The vibe of it looks really great.

They did release a record. Yes. Yeah. And I believe it's this. And I was scrolling through it, and I was like, man. And as I usually do when I find something like this, whether it's a McGruff album or whether it's something else, I go, is this going to be my new favorite album? I'm like, fingers crossed, hoping that this is something I'm going to punish everyone I know with for the next 20 years. That's what I'm hoping for.

And I am sad to report it is not the case. Oh, no. It's no McGruff. It is no McGruff. All right, all right, all case. Oh, no. It's no McGruff. It is no McGruff. All right, all right, all right. It's fine. It's covers. You know, they do like they're doing Beatles.

It's like a little like, yeah. It sounds okay. It sounds like a, no, I wouldn't play it. Oh, great one to pick for a children's performance show. But the whole album is kind of like this. And you're like, it just sounds like... I don't know. It was like studio musicians covering stuff.

And I was like, oh, man. Sure. That's a bummer. Yeah, yeah. That could have really tipped it. Okay, I will say the one thing I found. This is a welcome... I don't know if you guys heard this, Welcome to Showbiz Pizza,

which I believe is the song they would play. Okay. This is an interesting piece of music, I will say. This is the closest thing I could find, and I found some other original songs, which are unclear if they were written by Aaron Fector in the last five years. Possibly, because he does have a YouTube channel,

and they'll it'll program with new stuff and maybe i missed like a seminal album but this i think is the closest thing i found is something that was kind of interesting okay ladies and gentlemen the world's most advanced entertainment has now joined forces with the world's finest pizza. Sure that's true. That's a crazy intro. It's coming off BGM, yeah. a crazy intro it's kind of an offbeat jam yeah interesting was the right clarifier it's an offbeat jam and i know i don't hate i like it

yeah i think it's kind of cool yeah yeah, yeah. And I was hoping that first album was going to be more of stuff like that, but it did not live up to that minute and a half thing there. Well, a lot of what I found was covers, and I can't say enough how impressed I was that they're doing the more daring Beatles music. Sure, yeah. But then they do pop hits too,

but this is what I said about watching hands, and the listeners can't do this, but you guys here can. When you look, just watch, I think Beach Bear is the core of it for me. Just watch him jam this solo to Van Halen's Jump.

No. You know, for a limited animatronic, the fur's flopping around. Yeah, it's... Okay, I did also note this when I was watching a couple of these videos. You go into fat, then fat's just jamming the... He's lost in a trance.

I was impressed by this jump performance. Kind of went the floppy hand route, and it seems to work to the advantage because it ends up looking more natural than like... Even Jasper has just got three big fingers. Yeah. You're not seeing a lot of contact there. Beach Bear, I noted Beach Bear looks good when he's soloing.

I also noticed Beach Bear's paws. The way he kind of leans back,ing. I also noticed Beach Bear's pause. The way he kind of leans back, too. I think it's good musician body language. He's doing the thing. Yeah, he kind of like stalls. So like Eddie Van Halen would hit a note, and he would kind of stall, and then he would use what I think is called a hammer-on,

where he kind of like punches the string very fast with one of his fingers, and it really like mimics kind of what that would look like when a guitar player is doing it. Yeah. As you're saying, he leans back with that motion where he's really feeling the solo he's playing. It's technique and it's technique and it is very good.

And it is better than anything. I think in the munches make believe band as far as performance. Let me say this too. Uh, the, the drummer, um, Duke LaRue, that munches make believe band as far as performance let me say this too uh the the drummer um duke larue something i've i don't think i fit we i watched a lot of animatronic bands in the last week i don't think i ever saw any animatronic musician make contact with the drums and mainly the symbol because that's what you notice uh that's that's the rarest but i don't

even expect it that's so not where my my bar is yeah but i saw duke hitting that symbol and guys i don't want to drag this out any further i'm locking in rock of fire explosion as my choice interesting why drag it out why drag it out after all that and i'm not saying that they're better uh characters uh i think i'd be this you know i i i think i find the Chuck E. Cheese world more pleasant. But talking music, there was no argument for me here. You know, I think I'll lock mine into, and I think maybe I'm leaning more towards intangibles, but I might have to go with Munch's Make Believe Band.

Oh, boy. Okay. Oh, it puts it on mic. It's a tricky one because I try to go into these not forming an opinion before so we could talk them through. So as we're talking them through, the one thing I would say is that for me, I was looking as you kind of could tell, I was looking for a piece of music to move me more than what i mentioned on the last chucky cheese episode the song together we got it that that weighed in my decision of course it's a very

good song it's an excellent song we got it in case you don't remember i mean look listen to that it's obviously a different genre than a lot of the showbiz piece of stuff. I'll fast forward it a little bit. It's a very strong song. That's the intro there. And there's Basquale singing. So it's tough because like aesthetic wise, yes, the band is the all out of sorts. Rock and Fire Explosion is superior.

But the music of Chuck E. Cheese and Munch and Helen helen you know it's like i have to go with munch's make-believe band i think i was looking desperately i was wanting to say yeah the fire and maybe somebody maybe somebody will shame me and say you know what here's the album you missed and i'll feel like a fool and i've ruined this whole final it was made four years ago in the in a creepy orlando warehouse yeah it's truly essential mike i think you know rock fire explosion might be more the velvet underground kind of choice but i don't think that'll be the last one of those today i think though you know what i think rock of fire is more like like and this is gonna i'm gonna people gonna be mad at The Doors or something, where it's like the image is so cool. That bad, huh?

That bad? And the vibe is so cool. What? Yeah, I'm offended now. I'm offended. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just saying, I think that The Doors are very popular because of the vibe. People think Jim Morrison is cool.

They're not the same vibe as The Doors. Captured something of the time. I'm saying, yeah, there's an essence to the Doors that people found attractive. Some of the songs are okay with the Doors. I don't hate the Doors songs. They weren't passed along generationally very well, I wouldn't say. At least not to us. I don't know.

Jim Morrison and Billy Bob go hand in hand, clearly. I just think the vibes are doing so much heavy lifting with Rock of Fire. And I have to go with Munch. I just have to go with my gut on this. clearly i just think the vibes are doing so much heavy lifting with rockafire and i i said i i have to go with munch i just have to go with my gut i'm not i'm not mad at that at all i just i think i wanted to represent some strong musician i don't regret my vote but i don't regret the way things have gone really quick before we move on can i say this story about when i looked up what was going on with the the white album medley there's a part in the show where billy bob uh i think um what is it this might be about rocky raccoon maybe he's introducing rocky raccoon and he says but you know folks uh

it doesn't pay to be going and seeking revenge on somebody i mean even if they do something real bad like steer steal your girlfriend or something uh you know because if she was any good she wouldn't have left you anyway so forget her what that's a that's a big tear that the billy bob the bear goes on uh and then it turns out that what was happening there was that aaron fechter the create the the guy who does the the robots uh his girlfriend who was the show programmer left him for rick bailey the voice of beach bear and his revenge was let me put this weird little screed into billy bob's mouth and then she has to program it because she still works there so with that shady story in my i don't mind departing the Rock of Fire explosion. Yeah, yeah. What a weird I'll get my

revenge through a... Well, go listen to our Chuck E. Cheese episode for some more weirdness from that area. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Not the last mention of animatronics talking about their relationships today. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, sure. Oh, right, right. I know what you mean. Okay, okay.

But for now now we move on to a category that i'm i'm pretty excited about i was happy with your territory i'd say so i feel pretty good about this and yeah maybe the weight's really on me to figure it out uh because this is not just a rock face-off it's a beach boys face-off in which the peach boys from at the epcot retired show food rocks go up against another chucky cheese group a chucky cheese side room group called the beach bowsers those of course were a bunch of dogs who sang beach boys songs they are redressed Beatles. They were at some point the Beagles. And then maybe in Kokomo Mania of 1988 that swept the nation, which is the happy place that Mike Love has lived in ever since the one week where they went number one.

I might be wrong about that. It was no more than three weeks. But you still see the Beach Boys today. In 2022, if you go to see them, he's like, and then we went number one. That was longer ago now than their original hits were

when Kokomo came out. Anyways, Beach Boys versus Beach Boys. This is exciting. I really love that we landed on this. I love that this exists. I love that there were, because that's one of those faint memories that until you start diving in on the internet,'m like i feel like i walked into a room and there were a bunch of animals playing beach boys songs and indeed there there was such a thing it

was the beach bouncers now food rocks i'm i'm sure most people have a more affection for kitchen cabaret uh i think it was a more expensive show i think there was more care put in the design of it Food Rocks I think cheaper show to make it a little more current I think a sponsor switch I don't like Kitchen Cabaret I have more memories of Food Rocks and I liked

I kind of knew a couple of the songs so I liked the parodies it did reach out to us a little more, kids of the early 90s, by having music as late as 1966. No, that's not true. There was Peeta Gabriel and the Food Police,

and well, and Tone Loke in general. Yeah, Food Rapper reaches out to us. But so here you have, there's maybe an unfair stacking in terms of what they played because the peach boys was just one song it was good nutrition yeah a parody of good vibrations um as opposed to the beach bowser's set which i think there were a number of songs that they did i i found 10 on one show tape i think at one point it was just uh playing along to the tape but then at some point they did custom covers of beach boys songs um which were mostly not

amended except for adding barks sometimes a little bit uh-huh um so but you do cover more beach boys territory in the Beach Bowsers set. I don't know if that does anything. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to make a big sweeping generalization. I think both these bands are cute in different ways. The dogs are all very cute. And then the different fruit-based, they're all fruits, right?

Oh, yes. Well, to say their lineup, they're little bodies right the oh yes yeah well to say their lineup um it's the there's a they're little bodies with big fruit heads and it's a peach and an apple playing little guitars or ukuleles there's a pear on the tambourine and then an orange on on piano pretty cute yeah and then the other ones the beach bowsers i don't think are particularly clarified there's one of them says their name at the beginning is woody bowser it's actually a good clip i'll try to ones the beach bowsers i don't think are particularly clarified there's one of them says their name at the beginning is woody bowser it's actually a good clip i'll try to post it hey it's woody bowser he starts the show by saying hey cowabunga it's woody bowser we're

about to go catch a wave on a beach and i don't know what voice that yeah i was gonna say is he parroting a beach boy yeah i read as time went on they got more generic surfer dude than direct one-to-one yeah yeah i don't associate i don't feel like the beach boys would say cowabunga yeah that's extremely no that's like meshing up 90s stuff with you know beach boy stuff i think in terms of parody, the Peach Boys, kind of cleaner, Peach Boys to Beach Boys, you know, good nutrition instead of good vibrations. Yes. But the Beach Bowsers, I guess, putting on more of a show, you know?

Well, yeah, they waggle around a lot. They're heavy on the waggling. Yeah. But what, I mean, in general, would you say you have, I don't want to use the word respect, but I will because I can't think of a better word. Do you have more respect for the parody artist or for the cover band? Do you know what I'm saying? Like, in general, do you have a feeling about that? Because cover bands, I think generally you kind of yeah, that's funny or that you might have a good time running into one of those in vegas or in another place but parody you know it can be really funny obviously parody bands can be good so i'm trying to think initially like well obviously we're laughing at good nutrition we are laughing every time we're loving the funniest shit i've ever heard i thought i did think it was funny as a kid. Did I follow it? Did I follow Good New Chew? No, absolutely not.

That was the era of like, your ketchup's blue now. Your ketchup's green. Pretty cool. You had a 50-pack of American cheese that you brought with you in the park. Yeah, thanks to my good friends at Kraft. Yeah. Yeah. That's also the sponsors of the land where it's like fresh you know fruits and vegetables that

what is the food court cell oh meat cooked over an open fire of course healthy yeah yeah 50 cheese challenge cheese slice challenge uh hmm hmm i don't actually don't think I went into this with a leaning. I guess I prefer, as with White Album and Abbey Road, I like the more experimental stuff. I don't think any of these bands play my favorite Beach Boys music, which is the sweet spot of late 60s, early 70s, but I couldn't ask them. They're not going to play anything off of Holland. I could scarcely expect that.

But I guess maybe I like that Good Nutrition nods to the psychedelic, the experimental era. That's a piece from Smile that's in a theme park. That was a big popular hit song but from a piece of experimental pop art. So really pretty subversive of Disney to do this, right? Clearly. 30 years later.

Yeah, oh boy, it's a real, I can't believe this is even allowed. They wanted to do God only knows what I do without fruit, but they're like, I can't say God, can't say God. Too controversial. Not anymore. Not anymore. Only at that Christmas thing we do.

Yeah. That nativity thing uh christmas eve candlelight ceremony we do like 60 times a season yeah yeah and we're like i feel like some of these some of the edgier celebrities will come in i don't know if i feel like what's his name jim caviezel i feel like is maybe but Am I making that up? Maybe I'm making up that Jim Caviezel has ever been part of it. I think Caviezel has done it before. Whether he knows he had done it before is up for debate. Yeah. This year they've got the guy from Yellowstone who would not get vaccinated.

They have to keep him away from the rest of the cast. Got to find out who this is. Going to get to it. Cool actors are waiting. Cool actors. Going to get to it. I don't know. Are you guys leaning any?

I think I am leaning to one. Huh. And I'll just declare I am going to go with the Peach Boys. And I love the Beach Bowsers. I think they're cool. I think they're cute. But I think part of this is going to be, you know, not

every one of these bands or these artists have a full discography that's available or that's even been heard by humans. I have to give a little bit of credit to what the piece that we've heard suggests about a larger catalog, maybe, what it would suggest about other works. So I would say the Peach Boys boys good nutrition is interesting i i feel like i think they're more interesting and fascinating of an artist because of what they're doing with the music and i like the beach boys but we still it's got to saying we have the beach boys still out there rocking to this day playing pretty much the same set that the beach right bowser's do possibly worse than the beach bowser's you might be better off seeing the beach bowsers in whatever state

they're in in the year 2022 i mean one of these groups needs to have a stamos stand in a weirdly much younger robot really sweaty really showing you that he plays the drums not just playing them but like putting those drumsticks way up do you see everyone i'm playing drums right now look at me i am playing uh yes so i i have to give it to the peach boys just for that um that alone okay jason thoughts yeah i mean i think that was a lot of my agreements too you know i think the the peach boys a little more uh unique and they're sculpt uh a pretty short and sweet kind of got in got in and out uh the beach bowsers i mean i love dogs i love giant animatronic dogs certainly but um yeah i mean it is like we said in the previous round session

guys playing the beach boys or in one case i i feel like i saw a clip where i'm like did they just writ are they just playing an album are they playing the album cut are they allowed no yeah sometimes it's just the old tape yeah sometimes it's just copyright skirting so you know you're getting originality with the peach boys even though it's just the one song yeah so i think i'm going in with the peach boys as well i'm i'm comfortable with a full sweep of the peach boys um and i like that you know i think you got to give it up for the disney craftsmanship too yeah because we're going to see a lot of chuck E. Cheese in here ultimately right and uh so i i like that disney's is

represented but i was going to say early on I think one thing that's exciting about this tournament is that as opposed to the first, not really applicable with the fake theme parks, but the first one, fake rocks was Disney with Cars Land. Fake smell was Universal with E.T. Right. I think this is a good chance for maybe an outside entity to take it. Oh, yeah. Maybe.

So we'll see. The next round will be Chuck E. Cheese versus Disney. So that's exciting. But for now, we move on. Well, let me say this. Before we get into this round, and I'm sorry to drag this out a little bit, but I think this is the juncture

where I have to inform you guys that we made a big mistake. We have our list locked in. We figured out our list, but I realized a crucial error that we made, and that is that in the remaining rounds, we did not find a place for the Knott's Timber Mountain Log Ride band

that only plays at Halloween, a band called the Calico Coffin Creepers. Well, look, sometimes big teams don't make it into the sweet scene. Sure, but I wanted to bring this up. To me, I think this belongs in the 16, big time. Here's what I'm saying.

Look at the list, and I know we try to reveal these as we go, but I think in this case, could be an interesting call. if you see a weak spot in there and you think that the calif co coffin creepers belong as i do and you guys outvote me like all like on all the other ones but i think if one of you thinks that they should go in along with me i think that they need to go in i believe they should go in yeah i believe they should go in. Yeah. I believe they go in. I see two weak spots, one of which I think is in this due to a technicality. Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. Okay. The other is in this very next round. Yeah. Are we think, well, do you see a weak spot, Mike? Yeah. I think so. I think so.

Can you point it to me? Well, do we all just declare? Because this is a discussion in and of itself. Are we seeing the same weak spot? Let's just say the weak spot. What do we think? One, two, three. Rocky and Bullwinkle.

Hitching crackpots. Oh, not you, Mike. Oh, I was going to say. No, I'll save it. I don't want to. Oh, boy. Okay. So you would say put them in this very round that we're about to do.

I would say put them in this very round. Interesting. Yeah, I think Jason. I agree with Jason. I'm not so far off. I would. Yeah, yeah. No, not so far off.

I'm comfortable with that. I think that's an easy. I think Jason's right. I really thought we were looking at the same. Now, you're going to have to, Mike mike declare what where you were gonna put them later okay i will i'll declare later um so we're saying officially that uh in a further diss of kitchen cabaret that uh the kitchen crack pots are out i think they're gonna get smoked by the competitor in this round i think so to begin with yeah so we're not setting up the calico coffin creepers

for success no not necessarily uh no i think it's just a matter of like what what 14 seed is going in here you know yeah yeah sure but i i like this a lot i like the calico coffin creepers much more so much i have to say the full name every time i like this a lot more than this kitchen cabaret thing they you know they're a bunch of jars who play other jars there's no way it was gonna go any further than that so yeah the interesting thing about the kitchen crackpots is that the mayonnaise jar the drummer is kind of the front and center it's kind of the front man and how often do you see that sort of in the way that munch is like this is munch's band the keyboardist's band you know yeah yeah so that mayonnaise jar is a real phil collins john

wenner has not put a mayonnaise jar in his rock and roll hall of fame yet no there's a lot of musicians in there who are the musical equivalent of mayonnaise jars that's fair yeah so so that brings us to yeah the calico coffin creepers versus who wants to the five bear rugs the five bear rugs are back we are back in a little a little taste of country bear jamber week um so and and the way we're representing and this you know we could have had a solo act from the jamboree, but we've gone with the big band. Kind of the heart and soul of the show. I would say so.

Kind of the base of the show. Right, the base of the show. But yeah, I will also say, yeah, we didn't go with the solo acts. So keep that in mind. Because the big stuff you think of, Big L, Trixie, we're not including them really. This is the backing band for the show the house band house band for the show yeah so it's not the full country bear show when you're thinking about this that's what i just want to put out there yeah yeah and we also didn't end up with gomer who i have a big admiration for i think is a really strong

laying it down right so take away yeah we're gonna take away it down. Right. So take away. Yeah. We're going to take away Gomer, take away Trixie, take away swinging Teddy Barra. Okay. Yes. And think of just those bear rugs. Zeke and Zeb and Ted and Fred and our name, Tennessee,

Tennessee. Yeah. And instrument wise, we've got Zeke on banjo, Zeb on fiddle, Ted on jug, Fred on mouth harp and Tennessee on a bass with one string. Elsewhere, and let me just show you guys a photo.

You know, why don't we get a little taste of the Calico Coffin Creepers as well? Yes. You know, they got to escape the ride. When they couldn't operate the ride in 2020, they did like a taste of Halloween festival. So the band was outside of the ride, and, they did like a taste of Halloween festival. So the band was outside of the ride and you could actually sit and watch them for a while and discover that only two of them moved in any way. But here's some of them. Cool drum.

They got a cool like kind of, yeah, like scribbled on drum. Oh, yeah. There's a gray. there's a grey alien With overalls on There's a Here's the wide shot There's a wolf man on banjo Who sways slightly Alien sitting on a barrel

There is a Sasquatch Yeah Bigfoot Doing nothing just kind of being there he's kind of like that guy that danced on stage at the muddy muddy boston yeah i was gonna say he's all about vibes yeah yeah um you got a very nosferatu like vampire on a washboard and then a drummer who's a spider man not not spider man but he is he's a spider man um so that's the calico coffin creepers again only two of them move so you gotta i guess withhold some points there yeah uh that's that's too bad but i'll also you know you don't expect a lot for from knots and from a knots seasonal

overlay you know they don't have a ton of money for that right i'm impressed two of them move uh yeah no that is impressive. And I will say, you know, we've talked about this before, the Halloween overlay of this Timber Mountain log ride. As you're kind of barreling down, because that thing moves fast. That ride moves pretty fast for a log ride that's in water. As you're barreling down the end of that thing, you zoom by this band. And they make such an impact on you as you're going.

Like if you're like us and like this type of thing because i think we noted all we were like what was that band back there who were those guys like we made a whole show of it the song they're playing at the end of there is a very like uh upbeat kind of country little thing that's going on and i think i asked i've asked multiple people at knots like do you you have a soundtrack CD for the music of some of this? And they're like, no, we don't have any of that. We don't have. I think it's made by the Knott's band and former Disneyland band, correct? Billy Hill and the Hillbillies.

So it's like theme park native musicians. Crazy Kirk now. Okay. Formerly Billy Hill now. Oh, I see. Okay, okay. Is that how recent the band is? Because they were fired not, what, five years ago from Disney or something?

Something like, well, because they used to play back where in the barn area or the animal petting zoo area, there was a stage back there, and that's now Galaxy's Edge is right on top of that. Right, yes. I think this is correct, because I don't think they've been running this thing for, you know, they only opened up that one ride in 2015 or so. So recent. Now this gets a recent group of animatronics in there.

And I like the diversity. I like that there's an alien. The alien is the funniest thing. And I like that they don't all fit together. They aren't all part of one horror genre or type of movie or something yeah um yeah for sure um and it's i'm trying that's where the bear says trick-or-treat which he's not in the band so we can't unfortunately add that to it but that would tip it over all the way that might tip it over all the way because now you're adding a bear to it but it's hard to take it away because it's such a big part of that one moment on the

ride yeah yeah he's a he's a fan at least yeah he's part of the culture um the crack part of the and it's you know what it's using like kind of a common theme park trope of like uh like a haunted house with just a bunch of crazy stuff in it and it's like well this is a disparate collection of characters and guys and we've made them be an upbeat, jaunty country bit. It's fun. Yeah. The music is fun. The music is really fun.

That said, they're up against the Five Bear Rugs. Right. Now, the Five Bear Rugs, one of the big, I mean, the couple big moments they have is the start of the Country Bears, just a regular show, is the big band, what is it start of the country bears or just a regular show is the big bands the big band what is it bear serenade um which is fun uh they do at the end they play like everybody

plays everyone plays they've also got a vibes guy they've got the little the little bear with the little teddy bear that looks like he doesn't want to be there he's upset well he's a nervous little good boy he's just like us yeah right so he's our entrance into the chamber a little if we were a little on stage with a bunch of bears playing instruments we would be ecstatic finally our dream yes yeah uh so it's tough obviously i'm a huge country bear fan but those bears without the other bears obviously that hurts it i think it hurts it a lot they're great players all of them are great players do we mess this up should we have picked a solo act look we probably made a lot of mistakes here today as far as what we should have done well we have to start look we we are works in progress yeah and we own our mistakes we are just as the

lord made us you know we're always saying that. That's our regular catchphrase. That's right. When we do our post-mortems of the episodes and we all admit everything that we did wrong every time, we put our hands over each other's shoulders and say, it's okay. You're perfect. You're messy, but that's perfect. Yeah.

There's a lot of love in the post-mortems. We should record them. But we're too, I don't feel vulnerable enough to show the audience. No, we learned it from our mentor, Andre Gregory. It's one of the exercises he did in the forest. Yeah, Jason's right. He's our mentor. So I'm really struggling with this because i i'm trying to make sure like when i zip past

this band during halloween i get so excited and i'm not hyping this up for no reason but i do get legit excited to see this band every time yeah me too isn't you we almost zipped right by him and putting him in there how did we not i don him in there? I don't know. We've got a lot going on, folks. A lot going on. It's hard for me here and I'm trying to search my feelings to make sure I'm not trying to just do this for shock value, but I kind of feel like

I want to give it to the calico coffin critters. It's not against the bear. I love the bears. Look, the bears got a lot of shine in December. We gave them a whole week. Right, but I'm trying not to do it. I'm not trying not to do it just to be interesting.

I'm just saying that if it comes down to those specific bears from the show and these characters, if they're two rock concerts, those five bears and these calico coffin creepers, whatever the hell they're called, which one do you kind of just on image alone? Because I think musically they're similar. Musically, I think they both have similar skills. I think they play similar genres.

Jaunty country music. They're well paired. This worked out very well. It really did. It did, yeah. And this could be our first upset you know so i scott what do you think i don't want to i don't want to be the decider here i i do want to be the decider and i'm deciding calico coffin wow yeah

folks when you see this picture though yeah. Yeah, you'll get it. It's making me so happy. And you know what? I love that they don't have to be expensive animatronics. This is like Haunted House level. Yeah, maybe I am letting personal bias leak in. I can admit this. Maybe I got a little tired of the country bears.

I think I'm ready to. I think they did get their moment on this show, and the Calico Coffin Creepers haven't. I truly... I think that if you're... Yeah. I was trying to take away... I'm not trying to be shocking here. I'm not trying to be some shock comic by doing this.

No. I'm saying that if you're taking them out, I think they both are comparable players. I think they are good players. Both good bands. Well, it's like St. Peter's in the actual NCAA tournament this year. A smaller school made it, won their first two games, knocked out. Yeah, the underdogs knocked out as they got further along,

but people were shocked at how far they went. You're right. This is an emotional story. I'm really happy about this yeah and they have a spider man this picture is making me so happy i all right all right wow calico this now this we do understand the seeds thing that's like a one or a two or a three i think no guarantee they go all the way they're still not i'm rooting for i mean strong gay they're already in the the history books um and jason do you want to do the honor on on the next one uh this is maybe

my most anticipated match-up uh rocky and bullwinkle of you know rocky and bullwinkle versus the four little shavers yeah um these are this is maybe the the matchup where they're like around the least though there's multiples of all of them but rocky and bullwinkle are from bullwinkle's restaurant which is something we really need to hit right topic wise but these were around and maybe still are a tiny bit i don't know if the animatronics are but this was like you know they were at uh it was a chucky cheese like brand and they're i think usually at like pitch and putt kind of play like mini golf kind of places um and then four little shavers were a chucky cheese side act yes i think there were only three of them ever in the country i I could be wrong.

Well, they were at a place called the Ice Cream Emporium, which was an ice cream spinoff to Chuck E. Cheese. Of Chuck E. Cheese. And their names, of course, I say this every time, Nolan, O'Nolan, Curly, and Mick Nolan. Named after. Nolan Bushnell. Yeah. Founder of Atari and Time Theater. named after Nolan Bushnell founder of

Atari and Time Theater and there are restored there's a full restored four little shavers at the Volo Auto Museum in Illinois yes are there multiple on this list of things you can see at the Volo Auto Museum I think maybe there's another one

might be there too but it's definitely this I think maybe there's another one that might be there too. But it's definitely this. I think there were only three, four little shavers ever installed. And if we haven't said that, that's a barbershop quartet. Barbershop quartet. Barbershop quartet.

One of them's in a barber chair. The rest are dressed like old-timey barbers. It was one of the little shaver piece. I think so. A little blade. Yeah. There was a guy who shaver piece like blade. There was a guy who I did an improv. I've said this before. An older gentleman who was an older man in an improv class. And he was a barber.

And he was taking improv classes because he wanted to do a show where he would cut someone's hair on stage with his barber friends and sing songs. And someone said, hey, man, have you ever done anything on stage? And he said, no. And he said, okay, well, I'll do an improv class. And he said, it's a great idea. Everyone loves it. What? I don't know if he ever did it.

He was a very old fellow. Bizarre way in. Uh-huh. Huh. So Little Shavers-esque. Little Shavers. So, yeah, we're getting a little deep here. By the way, this entire area, I was saying, is like Americana or country.

When the kitchen crackpots were in it, you know, there's a lot of country with country bears, but then kitchen crackpots were like, I don't know, 40s bullshit. I'm glad they're out. But this is kind of, Rocky and Bullwinkle are sort of more in the country bluegrass zone, I think. I think you got a banjo in there that Bullwinkle plays, and you got Rocky on kind of a carved up bass. What is he? Maybe I don't know offhand.

I gotta look at the picture again. Or a fiddle. I'd say a fiddle, yes. That's a go-to use of animatronic- instruments there's a lot of fiddles around sure um so this would be a show and they were musically the core of it but then up above them were the uh like on the arch on the proscenium arch there were carved Boris and Natasha who were in like a little totem pole situation. And they would interject in a Statler and Waldorf kind of way.

And then the side stages were Dudley Do-Right and Underdog. And I'm unclear on if they sang or were just kind of part of the, or told jokes or whatever it is. Like Chuck E. Cheese stuff and like Pizza Time Theater, like surprisingly like well archived. Like there are full shows and every version of it that you can find, but like a lot of this stuff, like Bullwinkles,

like it's tough to figure out exactly what is what. Yeah, there's some video. Yeah, of course. I'm just saying it's not like you can find everything that had ever happened at one of these places. And certainly harder to find like set lists and stage there are no set lists i mean yeah everyone took them everyone took them at the end of the show it hopped up on stage setlist.fm does not have it um mike do you have that four little shavers clip i sent you jason sent me one i sent you one this is the only clip

i really followed because i got so excited well that's i should also say there was a moment where i was like well you know kind of everybody in this is a musician and they don't technically play instruments so should they not be and i sensed like oh i asked a wrong i asked a bad question by bringing that up i just wanted i had a lot i had a lot about four little shavers this is a place of love. You're smiling a wide smile for Furlough Shavers. I'm always excited when they come up on the show.

Jason's rock and roll is barbershop quartet. That's what he thinks when he thinks of rock. So I'll play a clip here of them. It has fiddle and ready for love. I can jump over the moon and above. Fit as fiddle and ready for love.

Fit as fiddle and ready for love. Fit as a fiddle and ready for love. Yeah, somehow I knew that this was going to be big for you when I came across the song title Fit as a Fiddle. We got a Jason classic on our hands. Fit as a Fiddle. We got a Jason classic on our hands. Fit as a Fiddle from 1932, written by Arthur Freed. It's by Al Hoffman and Al Goodheart. I learned this song at a very young age

because Gene Kelly and Donald O'Connor sing this song in a flashback scene in Singing in the Rain when they're showing that they like did stage music and that's why it would be easy for him a silent film performer to transition to talkies God there's no just vote for the goddamn shavers

so I was very excited the shavers in my fucking wheelhouse all day long yeah they also sing a song called toot toot tootsie well yeah so did old yellow eyes i believe brench beiner also sure i think it really makes me that we were watching the oscars over here the other night and we're still recovering we're trying to move on but it just struck me i was like in pair i'd looked up fit as a fiddle earlier in the day

and then and then Jane your girlfriend was here and that she she was especially excited not the most excited she was in the answers was when Megan the stallion showed up and I was like what how does this work where Megan the stallion big in the household and fit as a fiddle big in the household I like a song from the 30s and and Jane's current very, very popular charismatic modern performers. Darling, this Megan Thee Stallion song is all right, but have you heard Tootsie Goodbye? Why, let me do a few bars for you, my dear. She should try to sing.

Megan should sing a song or two about butterscotch. I did. I was like looking up the four little shavers when I was over at Jane's and I yelled from the other room like, honey, they knew fit as a fiddle. Oh, Tootsie. And then I just- Good luck what I found.

I just like started singing the core and she's just like, okay, yep. Yep. Where did you get that straw hat? Materialized it. Oh, boy. Why does the dog have arm garters on all of a sudden? Arm garters.

Hello there. You should bring them back. That's a signature look. I should, yeah. Well, you're going to sing the old one soon, so maybe that's in the content and contention for you but the other thing about rocking well i loved rocking bullwinkle as a kid too but these animatronics these are probably the most guilty of the click clack overwhelming the

music yeah yeah that's why i said maybe bump on i think this seems like a good brand and i think we should talk we should do an episode about it but pure maybe they're struggling because the videos aren't very good and are close to the click clack. But we don't have to drag all these out. I'm going for a little shaver. Yeah, for a little shaver. I'll say this, though. I found some of the coolest sounding music in one of these clips real quick.

Not that. This is Bullwinkle's? Yeah, yeah. Rocky and Bullwinkle are playing this. This is sweet. Huh, yeah. So, I was going to be a little more torn. I hadn't decided, but you guys have destroyed poor Rocky and Bullwinkle.

Yeah, yeah. Do you give them a vote? They're sick groups. I'll vote for Rocky and Bullwinkle. Okay, okay. Sure, sure, sure. Was that a full sweep of Calico Coffin Crew? Or are you sticking by Five Barrel?

Just for the people keeping the stats. No, I'll go with Calico. Wow, wow. That is a full sweep of calico coffin crew or are you sticking by fibera just for the people keeping the stats i'll go with calico wow wow that is a full sweep okay okay but otherwise sweet but in this scatter the calico coffin creepers who go on to face the four little shavers from pizza time theater um now we go solo for a little while and another bit boy we gotta oh my god this is an endless episode okay let's just this is what inspired this episode by the way is that there was an episode where i think we talked about what if there was a dueling piano bar between these competitors and that is sunny eclipse from tomorrowland from cosmic rays in the magic kingdom in disney world, the lounge singing alien versus Mac Tonight, the McDonald's spokesman who, if you don't know, was or still is at a couple McDonald's restaurants playing piano.

There were animatronic Mac Tonight's that you could see in McDonald's that have really stepped up their game. Right. Yes. And these are very similar. This is some of the most similar performers i think on this list yeah yeah i would say um yeah both like piano based although in sunny's case it is the astro organ yes um but it's the same it's a similar vibe

it's a similar kind of bluesy vibe we got lounge that's right this whole the next one is too we're in the lounge territory uh i guess an easy kind of funny that there's so many animatronics in that zone because like this is a far gone you know when you go out to a bar and that part's gone we don't do that as much anymore but like and then there's like a lounge yeah singer like playing to taking requests and this is not the most common thing in the world now but when they were making these robots yeah so and uh the dresdens a famous duo one of them passed away recently oh yeah marty right marty marty and elaine yeah uh so like they're some of the last classic lounge singers around. So yeah, this is another bygone era situation. Barbershop.

Well, how to begin? I think I didn't know what really the Mac Tonight show consisted of. I saw an animatronic Mac Tonight. It was one of the big reasons for me to go to something called the world's largest mcdonald's which is in the orlando area which is still a crazy spectacle but it's not like the 700 aesthetics at once that it was in 2010 when i went um and unfortunately he was not working it was like a reason to do the trip and It inspired a Disney World trip and then got there and it was not working. So points against it right away.

But you can still see it there. And then there's, I think this is gone, but there's a place called the Solid Gold McDonald's in Wisconsin. Greenville, Wisconsin, I believe. Which is just weird. And maybe, God, I don't know the full where the mech tonight animatronics were, but those are two that I, I know about. Um,

and I was like, what is the show exactly? And I was a little disappointed to find it's a lot of singing over pre records. It is like, um, I want to say Chuck Berry's in there. Um,

I mean, I found one with Born to be Wild. That's not right. This is not a correct choice for a piano. There's not a piano in that song. So disappointing a little from the get-go. Yeah, I found in some of the solo rounds and in with Rockin' Bullwinkle too, I was docking some points because i'm like

is this your main gig man like this isn't mac tonight's main gig you know it's little movies pitch man like that's his the ads are the yes yeah the the 80s mcdonald's ads and just his existence on merchandise and as a a crazy reference to bring up in a weird retro future vibe. I mean, I love Mac Tonight, but is this really the way that he shines? Sunny Eclipse, exclusive engagement at Cosmic Race. Also the last time I was there a few months ago,

Frozen and Rigor Mortis on the stage. Oh no, no. So not working similar to your Mac Tonight experience. Oh, too bad. I believe it's up and working more recently. Okay, good. But yeah, original songs, you know. There's original songs in the commercials,

but do we even count that? Because it's not in the robot show. Yeah. He does perform Mac the Knife, which was his main thing, but I don't think with the customized lyrics about, head for golden lights, dinner at McDonald's. And I could be wrong, but if that original song was not in the show, then there's not

a lot I can say in the favor of this. It's tough, yeah. Let me say this, though, that this wasn't at all locations, but I found one video. Of course, Sunny Eclipse has invisible backup singers who are the Space Angels. And I thought, well, that's big points that there are backup singers. But in one case, Mac Tonight did have backup singers, and those are the Rockin' Chickens. They all poke out of windows of like a little fake building. That's good. And they all do shout together,

which has the call and response to it. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I like the rockin' chickens. Look wise and vibe wise, I'll say this. Mac tonight, he will haunt my dreams for the rest of my life.

There is something so striking about him, maybe more so than anyone else on this list, that I will never forget this. In the same way that I'm haunted by Joe Camel. It's a similar era. It's a similar type of spokes character. They're both cool. They're both cool guys.

You want to be like both of them. Yeah. Both big smokers, I think, for sure. We should do a Joe Camel episode. Oh, yeah, you're right. We probably should do that. Joe Camel. Joe Camel.

All the guys. Get behind the paywall with a Surgeon General's warning. We will not, yeah. We got to do Joe Camel. He was never in animatronic anywhere for any reason. Oh, man. When you take a tour of the Marlboro factory. Yeah, maybe.

He actually does smoke. No, Camel. Oh, yeah, yeah. Camel cigarettes. Jesus. That was just at the time, the big promotions were like a cool mascot and then bucks.

The Marlboro Man. Yeah, that you could get points. Yeah. Camel cigarettes. Yeah, we'll do a Camel cigarettes episode. We'll do some cigarettes. Coming soon. But I will give mac tonight points for that because that is just such a

striking image of a character in a way like top my top 20 most striking characters in my brain it's such a thing from our childhood specific because i think he happened in like 87 88 yeah and it did just like yeah really tear through the fabric right my world and life right at that age like i will never forget this face yeah so so he does he does deserve points for that um yeah but i think you know our our love of Eclipse is pretty clear. A whole episode about him with Jenny Nicholson on the second gate. It's a really fun show, and if you go to Disney World, that's a thing you have to like.

Oh, here's an obscure corner you can take people to. And he looks great, too. He looks cool. The restaurant doesn't look cool that he's in, but his little area looks cool. Yeah, it's just good concept art you can find online he looks cool of him too um and the songs are much better yeah original songs um though i looked it up again loves the center of the universe it's a moving song to me uh all right well i think unfortunately but i like look i still like the idea of pairing

them up in some way yeah Yeah. This could happen. Well, Mac needs more love now for McDonald's. A lot of the Szechuan sauce is coming back yet again. Everything retro happened. There probably is the right way to bring back Mac's right. Yes. Right. That would be exciting. They need to reclaim.

Some darker parts of the internet tried to claim him. This is 10 years ago, 8, 10 years ago or so. That's the thing I hate. I'm done with that. Yeah. We don't. Yeah. Because you can't bring them up now without people saying, claim him this is 10 years ago eight ten years ago or so i think it's already been memory holes yeah we don't like you can't bring them up now without people saying well do you know that it's a right well no no it's not i didn't even remember tonight is ours damn it yeah i didn't even remember it i think the the scott i say i think i sent you a mac tonight beached out oh yeah yeah that's incredible yeah i love that i think i think lots of people are already starting to reclaim them so i think it's time for mcdonald's they've been pretty lackluster in their honestly they're they're trying to roll out like a their version of

beyond burger impossible burger soon seems like the perfect time for mac tonight to come back why is that yeah i was gonna say what's the what's the... Well, they haven't had a big new food item in a while. They're getting hampered down by the rising cost of meat like everywhere is. And I think we could all use the morale boost of seeing our friend Mac again, you know? And also, like, let's scare... Scott, I don't mean to, you know,

put your child on the spot like let's get them let's get them some impressions in their minds as they develop object yeah yeah i would like him to be as scarred by mac tonight why not if that happened to me it should happen to you that's right uh it's the right time for beyond meat at mcdonald's uh well sunny eclipse advances no disrespect mac but i think you're right let's we'll do you give him further respect for his real job as a tv pitchman yeah um and we move on in the lounge area um feel free jason to take this next turn well i'm i'm concerned maybe i don't have the right name but this is sally, Sally the Singing Animatronic, Lounsinger from Sally Dark Rides.

The namesake of Sally Dark Rides, yes. Versus Dolly Dimples. Dolly Dimples, who's a Chuck E. Cheese side character as well. Sally, we came across in our episode about Sally Dark Rides. That was a second gate, right? Yes. Which I recommend. across in our episode about sally dark rides that was a second gate right with that that's which i recommend i we found some very bizarre off the beaten path rides uh they make some of the strangest animatronics outside of disney and universal or although sometimes for for universal

um including and this that was your find i think mike was this weird a video advertising that you could in your, it seems like especially hotel bars is what they're aiming for. Yeah, I have it. Oh yes, please. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever fantasized She's talented, good looking

and an entertainer par excellence. Meet Sally, our piano playing lady. Sally's realistic And they keep mentioning how attractive the robot is in this ad. It's a really strange video. It's not the last time. Anyway, some other guy goes, oh, and she's attractive, too, at the end of this. That was a big selling point for the robot.

She's always sober, doesn't take breaks, and even comes with a warranty. Yeah, she's the perfect employee. Ew. Which is also funny, because that's how we think of women in America. They've got to be attractive. And then the other thing is like this is the contempt these people have for employees like well they're not they're always drunk and they always want a break from their work you know musicians yeah illicit substances they get going in their automobiles uh so yeah sally like imagine a mannequin like a mannequin from a department

store playing the piano yes with it's exactly like this and later on uh dj there was a second iteration of her eventually do you but can't count that can't get that that yeah yeah dolly dimples the the one the chucky chi show specifically i kept coming across as specifically for adults and uh for a number of reasons one she would kind of flirt with the people close to the stage she also has uh some references to like her many husbands yeah that was the other relationship i was alluding to she's like one of whom like the shavers his name is nolan they nodded to to nolan who's chucky cheese's daddy not chris no christopher nolan no no no nolan bushnell christopher nolan

was not married to dolly dimples and not jonathan nolan and not the third nolan don't talk about the third nolan ryan nolan ryan baseball player yeah. Yeah, so Dolly Dimples looks like a hippopotamus in a wig. Big clown wig. Big clown wig. As Jamie Loftus said, this divorcee hippopotamus on our Chuck E. Cheese episode. Yes, she looks very funny. I really like the look she's got going here. Yeah.

I'll say that. Yes, yeah. I really like the look she's got going here. Yeah. I'll say that. Yes. Yeah. And yeah, her show's a little, let's say a little bodier. A little bodier, yeah. With these references and with the, because, which I was looking for proof of what that means, the bodiness. And I think it's mainly that she says that people are getting her hot and bothered. Yeah.

Which I guess is X-rated in within theme park world right children's entertainment world this is one of those where this is all documented on youtube you can find the whole show she does like she does some older songs i feel like that well then sally sally is doing like the the hits of the 60s or 70s she does uh sally was doing uh old-fashioned love song by three dog nights of course written by paul williams yeah that's new compared to some of Sally was doing Old Fashioned Love Song By Three Dog Nights Of course written by Paul Williams That's new compared to some of the songs Dolly Dimples does

She does Summertime She does Frankie and Johnny George Gershwin Yeah So Tootsie Goodbye Yeah well How many of the acts on this list?

She does Hello Dolly From Hello Dolly That's cute Yeah This this is i watch that man right out of my hair yeah the vibe this is just i don't have actually this it's i just want to give everybody a vibe a little uh chicago there yeah i assume the blues you should have done that A little Chicago there. I assume the Blues Brothers. You should have done that at our Chicago show. You should have started the show saying Chicago, Chicago.

Chicago show. Next Chicago show, we're coming out as the Blues Brothers. Let's be honest. We could never be the Blues Brothers. We're just a bunch of comedians. We couldn't be authentic blues musicians. You're right. Like the Blues Brothers. You're going to be the professional dancer.

We're going to have to work hard to get ready for that. Who would be of all three? I consider now the Blues Brothers the three, Goodman, Aykroyd, and Jim Belushi. Which one would each of us be? Well, look, I don't, why aren't you counting your Aykroyd because you're tall? I can swing it, but Jason's the kid. Oh, yeah, the kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jason's the kid in Blues Brothers 2000. yeah jason's the kid in blues brothers 12 year old okay we got it down uh so yeah dolly dimples more personality from what i understand than sally sally plays through i think she has a little banter but there's not a lot of documentation online about it but it feels like dolly dimples is is programmed for you to sit down it's so strange we talked about this before. There used to be multiple rooms in these Chuck E. Cheese places, and you just go in a separate room with Dolly Dimples. You could be in there alone with her and just enjoy your pizza and drinks.

This is how I think the Chuck E. Cheese stuff maybe shines because it's more aggressively documented, as you've said, Mike, even to this level of detail that apparently the first time there was ever a dolly dimples room that they made up a because of the hot and bothered and all that they took us they put up a sign they made up a sign that says especially for mom and dad they didn't want to say only for mom and dad but especially and then ultimately they decided to not install the sign. And I'm reading this like, how am I reading this? This is the inner workings of, I wouldn't be reading like an oral history

about Leslie's pool supplies. Yeah, yeah. How is this level of detail made it to me and therefore you, the audience? But now it has. So it's, you know, do we have to dock Dolly points for being so NC-17? You don't i don't think so i i think they're mom and dad need a show too while they're drinking like a giant pour of white

zinfandel out of those red plastic cups every pizza place had back yeah look there's i've seen like a couple times now there's uh oh you know what uh the rainforest cafe in woodfield mall was replaced by a peppa pig's playland kind of a thing whoa and i've seen this before i think there are multiple peppa pig i don't know how i don't know what there's animatronic situation i haven't looked into it but if like you brought your kid to peppa pig and there was like a dolly dimples room so a parents could they could own wine they could have a drink and they could here's one of their favorite songs toot toot tootsie goodbye I think that'd be great and get out of the eyesight of their child yeah right a great thing to do in a place like exactly exactly who would have thought like in the era when like even motels the signs would say like

color tv bar lounge nightly entertainment like who would have thought dolly dimples would want to be one of the last regular lounge singers outside of like las vegas so there's dolly's around i think i can't i don't know if in volo this museum but there's for sure dolly's around people have kept them up there's a guy who has one in his living room. Oh, wow. It's like a restored one that he programs and posts videos of. I don't want to get a- Lucky, lucky guy. Yeah, boy. Live with Dolly.

I don't want to get sympathy here, but let me say this. I saw a Sally for sale. Oh. And this is on Worthpoint, which has come up a bunch with this kind of nonsense. It's being sold on Worthpoint. Sally has been playing piano for many years at wax world of the stars in wisconsin dells oh yeah that museum is now closed and sally is looking for a new home not only can she play piano she sings as well lips move in song sync and blah blah but she is tired

she has a few missing fingers and is in need of some refurbishing but that's all right this is what this copy says. It is all right. It is all right. It's not her fault. Sally works hard. She doesn't get breaks. She doesn't get a drink.

So Sally's in rough shape. She can maybe use this, but I think we're all failing. Yeah, I got to go with Dolly. We got a Dolly Dimples. All right. Sorry, Sally. Wishing you the best.

I hope you got a great new owner who fixed you up right but uh dolly dimples moves on to take on sunny eclipse um i'm not sure the order i think i know the order i want to go here i think i know the right way to close it out um let's let's jump back to to bands um and here we have so we're so we're in disney territory now this is kind of some chaos some miscellany uh we'll see how they fare against each other um all right we have here the muppet penguin orchestra from muppet vision 3d versus the seven dwarves why the seven dwarves because the seven dwarves are a band you know know the ride. Think about the ride. Think about Enchanted Wish and even the Mine Train ride.

The same scene. Yes. Yeah. They are celebrating with Snow White in a happy moment and we'll ride with some otherwise scary stuff. The Seven Dwarves are a band. Yes. The Seven Dwarves rock.

Yeah. Yes. I don't know if I'd call what they're doing rock music it's kind of like swiss alps stuff it's this they're playing the silly song scott is that the name of it yeah and in this in the movie of course there's longer and then they all like sing a little verse uh-huh not all of them a couple of happy sings a verse you don't know i'm saying i don't remember i know it's so much more from the ride i forget that there's

lyrics yeah there's lyrics in there but we don't they don't sing it in the ride so it shouldn't count so yeah um but a lot of them all right look you got a fiddle in there you got a big uh bass you got an accordion um and you got if we're talking cool gear, like, I think the only thing getting close, maybe, to the Munch slash Fats piano setup is this ornate wooden piano or organ, whatever you want to call it, where the pipes, I guess it's an organ because of the pipes, because it's a bunch of carved animals that all make the noises from little holes. This is maybe the best instrument in the whole tournament. Could be, yes.

This is the coolest looking instrument. You gotta give them points for that. Yeah. Grumpy is playing the accordion. Is that Grumpy? I believe. It looks like Grumpy to me. And then Doc is on a mandolin. And then I think

that's Happy in the blue on the bass. Sleepy maybe playing fiddle. Yeah. Sleepy in the fiddle and then Sneezy and Dopey are just stacked on top of each other. Yeah. Now they didn't go the full because I watched the clip from the movie. Dopey in the movie is

playing percussion. And Dopey is awesome in the movie. Really? He's so good. Oh. And he's doing tricks. Remember he like shoots his like the drumstick like flies through his clothes. Now, we can't count it. I'm just saying that he has this ability to play, and they did not show him drumming in here. Yeah.

Because I think he could have taken out any other drummer maybe in this competition, too. I think these dwarves are low-key, like, just fucking killer session musician kind of players. What a crazy thing. They go work in a mine all day, and how do they unwind by just going to town? Yeah. They're really good musicians. It's like I would love to see,

I know it's not sad, but if, say, this was a Chuck E. Cheese, people would have these dwarf shows in their garages and stuff, and they would have reprogrammed them to play a Lumineers song or something. Hey-ho music or Mumford and Son. Sure.

The best music, my favorite music. The best, yeah. I was going to suggest getting rid of this other act to replace with the Calico Critters. Oh, so we're not feeling good about Muppets we're going to go. I had the wrong act down. Oh, really? What would you think?

I thought it was the almost by the skin of their teeth, Jammin' Jesters. Oh, I see. Who I think would have blown away both of these bands. Well, it's still up for, the Jammin' Jesters also came up in the Sally Darkride's second gate. Right.

Would you, they would have won? I think they would have won this round easily. Oh, interesting. Really? Do you want to, do you want to pull them in? I like last minute replacement. This is the thing of your childhood, Mike.

Do you want to put the gesture back? Do you want to put the, replace gestures with the Muppets Penguin Orchestra? No, I'm saying the other, wait, who do you think is in? I would have replaced the Muppet Penguin Orchestra with the Calico Creepers.

Oh, I see, I see. So, so in our official way of saying this muppets but we're saying but now and you they're the link weak link to you so that means their chances are not very good right sorry muppet fans but do we want to put in this thing from your childhood i would replace the i would replace the muppet orchestra with jam and jester sure all right muppets you're

out jam and jesters are in a regional thing from enchanted forest in lombard illinois correct yeah all right jam and jester people just threw their phone by the way a thousand people in our audience threw their phone when i said a muppet thing i don't think neither of these were my the dwarves or the muppet like neither of these were my favorites i was a i freaking loved the Seven Dwarfs. As a kid, I was obsessed with the Seven Dwarfs. I've told this story before. I was sick and I was like,

my dad was like, can I get you something when I go to the store? And I go, I want Seven Dwarfs toys. And he goes, oh, okay. And then he left and my mom goes, they don't make Seven Dwarfs toys. Why do you agree to that? And he went and he found in a walgreens or something like a pack of seven little ninja characters in or whatever and he

brought him back and he goes hey these are the ninja dwarves good enough and i am yeah i bought it yeah and then they by the time my sister was was three or something they did have a pretty high quality dwarves things but i was. I had the poster on my wall. When I finally opened my eyes on the, well, no, the original didn't have this fun scene, I don't even think, in Disney World. Look, I like them finest characters. As animatronic musicians, I don't think that scene is, it's fine. Oh, I love it.

I just did it two days ago. Yeah, I like it too. I did it two days ago. I love going in that room when they're playing that little show. Yeah, I'm clapping along. I'm pretty happy. Snow White's having a good time. I think in the context of the ride, but in the context of this bracket, I was like, I don't know.

I like the silly song. I like bringing this genre, like yodely music, into this rock competition. I like acknowledging them as musicians. What is rock and roll? What is it? It's the essence. It's the vibe in that room. Spirit, the energy.

Can you imagine? You go on that ride and you go, it essence. It's the vibe in that room. Can you imagine you go on that ride and you go, it would be awesome to hang out in this room with these dwarves, with the seven dwarves and Snow White. This would be a fun little party we're having, you know? But the Jam and Jesters, I mean, they do rock around the clock. They do Let's Go to the Hop. They do Magic to Do

from Pippin. They do a lot of Pippin. They do a lot of songs from Pippin. Can we explain this from the ground up if you don't have the second gate and you should? Go check out the Sally one especially because that's a lot of Pippin. They do a lot of songs from Pippin. Can we explain this from the ground up if you don't have the second gate and you should. Go check out the Sally one especially because that's

a lot of where this is coming from. But this is something that was from Mike's childhood. You didn't realize that this animatronics company was behind it and it's medieval themed.

There's a dragon in the band. There's another. There's a very Sally-like mannequin-looking woman, like a princess or something. I don't know what she is. Anything else you want to say?

This is your home court. There's a little dragon called Cute, and they do some okay comedy. Isn't there a bigger dragon that kind of rolls out directly onto the carpet, and then there's the little cute dragon that's up on a table or something? Yes.

And it's like i love i do love this show and the uh it was from yeah should we say i don't know it's from enchanted castle did we say that enchanted castle you did say that okay uh in lombard illinois it's still there it still exists although somebody i recently said they think the show is done i think they don't run it anymore so it's possible it's finally over um but it's a great like you don't see you see some of the same like kind of hillbilly type shows with these robots but you don't see a lot of medieval i appreciate that vibe i think it's fun there's a lot of mouth robot noise clacking noise um on these which we pointed out on the episode um it's like a trumpeter it's like a is he also a dragon there's like a kind of a donkey looking yeah and they've reefed we've they've

changed they we've discovered they changed it around a little bit over the years um and yeah they do like at some point it was merlin merlin's magical music makers and then became the Jammin' Jesters. Right. And they also do old-time rock and roll sometimes. Yeah. I will say, I did find a YouTube comment on one of the videos where someone just wrote in all caps, Chuck E. Cheese's in Darien, Illinois

is better than this. And I was like, oh, I guess. I mean, that's kind of fair. I bet it is. But, but you know it's about the music um and you've been there in person this has become like a mike passion round so i i don't need to want to put it all on you but you know you can speak to this the most maybe yeah it's tough because like i mean i i like that we put the jam adjusters in here, but these are two things.

The Dwarves song and being in the room, and this is, again, I try to take out nostalgia or my extreme love, and I try to just judge it on the rock. I try to judge it on the vibes. And I don't know. I think that that Seven Dwarves band and the song they're playing,

the vibe is too good to ignore. The vibe is too fun to ignore. And look, I can't completely take myself out of it because I wanted to be friends with these seven guys and Snow White. Snow White, not so much. Seven guys, yes. I wanted to be buddies with them. I thought this seemed like they were like the original aspirational hang. This is very odd but okay

before the frat pack before your other was not yeah not my other guys but i as a child and this is not i'm not exaggerating for the air here this is true i was i was a huge seven dwarves kid um and i i wanted to be their snow white you wanted them yeah i was like get this lady out of here what about mike michael and the seven dwarves no mike snow mike is what i said uh and these robots still look good the song is still fun but fan art by the way yeah sure you in a shirt with sleeves kind of like like the Disney bound version of merged with your actual style. Puffy sleeves are on trend right now. So, you know, easy to get a hold of.

The end of the ride would be like the prince is coming over and I'm like, no, no, no, get away. And I'm like motioning for Dopey to come over to like true love's kiss. Dopey, bring me a hard Mountain Dew blast. Dopey, let's party fellas uh i gotta go seven dwarves uh yeah i'm happy jam and gestures are in there but i think seven droids is the best maybe the best disney music scene think about that oh yeah the most music all portrayed in one place and it's fun yeah i like seven dwarves i think they're in sorry that's all right just play the guys the gang the whole gang got in yeah yeah i think they made a valiant effort and the

the muppets dissed geez um people are upset so i mean i like them too but it's a full orchestra i like that but yeah um it brings us to the final round and this the match-up you've been waiting for ghost versus alien this is where we finally uh settle the hash between the ghost organist in the haunted mansion and the et playing the uh marimba the big big glowy plants. Plants or rocks. They light up and he's playing them with, you know, progressive instruments.

Yeah, E.T. playing big glowy things with percussion sticks from the E.T. adventure. Look up and don't blink or you will miss him. Yes, yeah. It's impossible even to find a good picture of him, but he's burned into my brain. Once I was thinking about musicians and rides, well, this is...

Look, you don't... How do you know that you're in an interplanetary celebration unless there's a little alien going, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling. This is Ewok stuff. This is great. Yeah. It makes me so happy.

I don't know why he's so... I didn't even remember i so did not realize he was way up in the back right he's he's he's in the front of my heart well because another one is kind of playing a plant like harp thing right yeah like a lot of the planet is like a musical instrument you know it can all be it's a very musical like the green planet is cool i think we can all agree. Lots of cool environments on the green planet.

It's such an under the sea thing. It's such a vibe of under the sea. Yeah. What is E.T. open? Is it, like, what is it? Pretty close.

Oh, the ride, 90, 90? Is it 91? Yeah, somewhere. E.T.?

So were they influenced? 90 probably in Florida. 90 in Florida. So were they influenced by under the sea? Maybe. Such an under the sea should we have put an under the sea character in this i don't think so because i think this is the vibe well maybe mr limpet just for hanging out in the corner oh right i guess he doesn't really play anything so um but then you got some history you got i didn't realize this is the we're talking about victor geist we just covered

him in the last episode this is what we just made it past it was victor geist i believe in the ball room right right um and he's playing a big the crazy huge organ from 20 000 leagues and there's spirits coming out of the pipes it's an impressive piece yeah somebody pointed out that we didn't recognize or didn't say that uh it's a play on poltergeist. Yeah. I understand if the... We were saying it was like a normal name and we missed that geist is ghost in German. That I get.

Sure. But anybody who's saying, no, it's a joke. It's a play on poltergeist. No, it's not. You mean Victor Geist. Poltergeist. That's not... It would have to be closer to,

I might have complained about this already. Oh, maybe. Possibly. Sounds familiar. I'll keep complaining about it. And maybe it taints Victor Geist for me. I didn't like that whole conversation. Yeah.

Look, I still like Victor Geist despite this controversy that's swirling around him. But the E.T. plays look cute. He's cute. Yeah, look. If you've got thoughts, Jason, but I know what I'm... No, I mean, he's kind of a big centerpiece of that ballroom scene. But I think you both sold me on the cuteness.

Yeah. Oh, there's no way. Now, he's not an E.T. He's a Broto-Azogean. I just want to remember. Okay, not an et he's a broto isogean i just want to remember okay yes broto isogean broto isogean is a broto isogean playing something we don't know um wow okay so uh we have the elite eight the elite eight We've made it through. Here, I'll go in the opposite order of what we'll wrap back around to. So we will have Calico Coffin Creepers from Knott's Berry Farm versus Four Little Shavers from Chuck E. Cheese.

Sunny Eclipse versus Dolly Dimples. Disney versus Chuck E. Cheese. Yeah, yeah. Seven Dwarves versus the E.T. playing the Marimbas. Oh, wow. But that loops us back around to the first one we have to cover, which is in round two, Munch's make-believe ban from Chuck E. Cheese's

versus the Peach Boys from Epcot. Yeah, this seems like a blowout. Yeah, I think so. This is an easy one. Yeah, sorry, Peach Boys. I'm glad they made it, but yeah. Mr. Munch. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

I'll make it a different color so i know what one in the next okay um this is interesting then calico coffin creepers versus four little shavers oh jason one of my favorites versus a new favorite yeah that kind of got in at the last minute we have to like like the the fun of the new we have to like let that sit for a second you don't want to get emotional and you don't want to get excited about their merits look there's more movement certainly in the four little shavers they are flapping all around yeah i go back though to my original argument which is that i mean look uh acapella music, that's music.

They're musicians. Yeah. But we were kind of going, there's a lot of instruments here for studying musicians, but that's not going to be points in the favor of calico coffin creepers. These are not the best animatronics we're going to find in the thing. It's more about a vibe. It's more about a vibe, which, yeah, like aesthetically here. Aesthetically, like Jason, you would say obviously aesthetically your ultimate band all wears suspenders and old time hats. And little dickies and the old time hats.

That's like your ultimate. Just very uncomfortable. Yeah. It's a cartoonish amount of clothes piled on top of each other. Right, yes. Right. So it's just, yeah. So when we go to Calico, the Calico guy, it's just, the music isn't any newer.

This is old-time country music, you know? They're probably not so dissimilar in the eras. No, but if we're talking about rock, closer to the origins of rock, I think. Hey, I think, you know, I tried to late add Mr. Lincoln as a spoken word category on this tournament and say, does he rock? Does the spoken word of Great Moments of Mr. Lincoln rock?

So my category, I want to... Spoken word Grammys, he could have won. Yeah, I wanted to expand what it means to rock so jason look if you get passion if you feel passion from it if it gets your you know blood pumping i'm talking about the little shavers then it is rock you know these little free barbershop singers get your blood flowing i mean i certainly don't want my blood pumping when I'm getting a straight razor shave. I would like it to be very still.

That's fair, yeah. And not fluid-y. They're also in an ice cream place, too. So that's good in your point. Yeah, the others are at a coot nanny, though. I know, that's really fun. A Halloween coot nanny. And I like that they're

seasonal and regional i think those are those can be points against but i think they're they're points four in this regard i like the knott's berry farm would make it this far makes it more special i mean at the volo auto museum they're kind of in a recreation of like of a pizza type experience which is not their original context so you know very few people got to see them in their original context of like an animatronic ice cream parlor right so but the calico coffin creepers are in their original context you know all you know what we some way we haven't brought into this yet is something i'd like to quickly like and i see that it is available on t public like which bands merch would you rather wear and obviously we don't see they don't

have like big you know big gift shops or big um online stores but i think i'm gonna be wearing a calico coffin creeper shirt over a four little shaver shirt and that's me that's my preference yeah you don't want like a shirt that's like that that adventure land kind of games games games ride ride ride shirts but it just says hello hello hello in different sounds lots of fun shirt me okay now that you're okay well that's true i was sort of picturing like one of those things where it's like a t-shirt but it has the look of their like their uh barbershop outfits on it okay i want a logo of the the logo that's on their drum which is like yeah yeah badly yes like like the way you know when you write a poster for yourself if you weren't good at that kind of thing and you start to run out of room and the letters get smaller and smaller that's's their drum. The drum head,

yeah. It does not look good, but it's a choice. Which one? Calico? The Calico, yeah, yeah. If you look at their drum head, I mean, that's very far away from you. A little DIY. A little, like, punk. That's good, yeah. They're, like, not the corporate band, you know what I'm saying? No. Also, that's a strike in their, like, that's good, not a strike against them.

Yeah, not, like, big barbershop. Yeah, that's a corporate, that's a big thing. Corporate sh. Yeah, not like big barbershop. Yeah, that's a corporate chicken cheese. That's a big thing. Corporate chills for big shampoo. Yeah. I got to go with my Calico Cough and Creepers here. Yeah, you said it. You got me with corporate.

How do you argue against that? These are the underground guys. These guys are still keeping it real. In this matchup, I think even I have to go with Calico. Oh, really? Wow, the Calico Coffin Creepers. I recognize that

Barbershop Ice Cream Animatronics, pretty narrow taste, pretty narrow specific taste. Sure, sure. But if we're talking about the spirit of the tournament, I think they're going to have to take the L here, even if it was close in my book

wow wow Calico coffin creepers defeat four little shavers anyone who's saying wow to that out loud is in a really weird rabbit hole thanks for being here let's move to lounge who's the king of lounge

is it is it a big alien or is it a piano playing hippo? Sonny versus Dolly. Sonny versus Dolly. They both have a very impressive body of work, I'll say. They both have a good substantial amount of material you can find online. Dolly did a long... I'll say this.

Dolly did a longer kind of show a little a little looser which you can appreciate sometimes especially when it's in a live environment she seemed like she wanted to have more interaction with the customers sunny is sort of you know doing a little crowd work but he has a pretty tight show that he does and he does the same one every time so i'm just trying to think of now the venues they're playing and obviously you know the the dolly dimples room was a little looser a little more fun than cosmic race cosmic radio it's a little more they still wanted you in and out can't drink there um well look we're gonna get into trouble arguing the quality of this restaurant to jason who has come to its defense

many times fine dining options. No toppings bar. Free toppings. Don't you understand? Toppings bar. Not a bar, but a topping. Toppings bar Cosmic Rays right now. Really? I think the last time I was there,

folks, please let us know when the toppings bars return to Pickle's Bill and Cosmic Rays. Let Jason know. You can leave us out of the ad on that. Tag all accounts mr morrow please do a video on the toppings bar at cosmic rays returns do 30 minutes on it and go through all the different like how the pieces of lettuce are mike uh mr morrow recently did a video where he was fishing off a dock at port worley oh i missed this riverside and i'm shocked i knew about the

fishing excursions where you go out on a boat but i didn't know you could just fish off a dock at wilderness lodge wow port orleans riverside or else i would have definitely dragged at least you to do that with me do we it's when we were there uh fishing is a little i i give you everything six bucks for a half an hour six or seven bucks you keep the fish no No, they're catch and release. But the fish die anyway. I don't know that they do. I think they just get a little annoyed.

You gotta hook through their mouth. Yeah, but I don't know. I think they die anyway. I'd actually honestly prefer we just eat them. Because then at least if they're gonna die, we're using them to... You reap your reward. Yeah, I don't want to do that. I'm just saying that would saying that would be my pro they want a bunch of guests cooking up bone in swamp fish in your hotel room walt said that on his deathbed that's what he wanted yeah that's why

he did the florida project swamp fish so that's on my list next time i get down to orlando um let me uh uh three words well five words you norc city planet zork i forgot i forgot planet zork yeah if you don't recall and if you haven't heard our second gate we're referencing a lot of second gate stuff here sunny eclipse the lansing robot piano astro organ player comes from an opposite new york city called unork city which is not fully opposite because city is the same yeah um a topsy turvy town where the subways are up and the streets are down i mean is there anything is their writing that uh polished in the dolly dimples No, she just kind of makes a pass at your husband. You know, that's really...

She needs another one. Yeah. She's like a benevolent, you know. Sonny, we don't know about his life. That's when entertainment was, you know, that's for the, we don't need to know everything about a person. I don't need to know which space angel he's dating. That's true.

None of my business. I want to say Dolly, but I'm going to not say Dolly. Yeah, I think I'm going to give it to Sonny. Sonny wins. Very close. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's, you know, we love him. We've discussed him at length. Everybody goes there. And I'm always thankful when people send pictures of themselves

with Sonny. I'm always happy to. That's like putting your own you know everybody goes and does splash mountain but not everybody takes the time yes right this show that i can't believe is still there i'm so happy it's still there yeah thank goodness um so this isn't it this is very interesting the seven dwarves versus the et playing them versus the plants broto what's the photo is broto is playing green planet light up green planet glow plants green planet glow plants uh if you're talking about a vibe and a bunch of folks you want to hang out with well but it's not all of them it's just one et one yeah look at the setting you're in like a dirty a dirty old cabin that probably stank that cabin does not look dirty

well no you know if we're talking snow white clean that but all those dudes that many dudes in the house is gonna fair enough they were messy they were they had fallen under old school gender roles and they made Snow White clean this place up. But if she's there, that place was spotless. That's true. And those animals are helping. The animals were fantastic. Yeah, they do a great job. So when you drive

in in Disneyland, that is not a dirty cabin. Don't ever say that. And unfortunately, when I think dirty between these two, I think the ET ride more but that's part of the charm of it that planet was almost toast okay that they were able

to recover that fresh yeah it's fresh it's freshly saved that is true yeah yeah yeah yeah it was almost ash yeah a mere 45 seconds ago here's what I'll say about that setting and I guess we really this is about rock. This is not about setting necessarily, but.

It's where they choose to perform. The planet feels gooey to me. It feels like there would be like a film on everything. Like if you touched it, you'd be like, your hands would be messy with a substance. I don't even, an outer world substance. Do we actually want to visit the green planet? I want to visit the green planet.

I do, but. Look, if you go to the Hollywood Planet? I want to visit the Green Planet. I mean, I do. I do. Look, if you go to the Hollywood Bowl or you go to Red Rocks, you have to deal with the elements, you know? That is in play versus if you go to the Dolby Theater or something indoors. Would you rather go to Red Rocks or to the Green Planet? Where would you rather see your favorite band? I think I'd rather go to the green where would you you'd rather see the new your favorite band the new pornographers sure uh on the green planet i guess i think that's more pop i think the i think the green planet is more um uh uh what was the

freight a power poppy then uh well aesthetically it's color wise yes it does feel a little yeah a lot of their their album covers off and very colorful you know right look i don't want to be anywhere near the dolby theater that's a place of danger and violence well yeah the uh uh i would say red rocks red rocks is like yeah in the mountains it seems what are we i lost track of red rocks is green planet but no we're we're talking about the elements and like the vibe of both these places red rocks trying to stall out so to prove that i think the seven dwarves uh locate he doesn't like jason's anti seven dwarves ever since they beat the jam and jesters and i kind of feel he's trying to divert here from the actual argument you guys sold me on how fun Marimba E.T. was.

I was getting docket points for how fast you go by that thing. I haven't decided, by the way. I'm just saying. Okay. I'm just saying you said dirty. You said the living quarters were dirty, and I disagreed. Have you decided, Jason? I think I've made my decision.

Okay. Are you locking in? I will lock in the Marimba playing Broto as OG. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I love him. Yeah, he's in. All right.

Yeah. Sorry, Mike. What were you? I was going to go with the dwarves. Yeah, well. That's okay. Understood. That's what this is all about.

Yes. They're still great characters and we respect your desire to be their friends yes thank you uh so that brings so then it's the final four final four we've made it to the final four which is sunny eclipse who will take on the broto zoji playing the glide the glow plants uh but first, Muncher's Make-Believe Band versus the Calico Coffin Creepers. I can't believe it got to that point.

This is the ultimate one seed versus 16 seed. This one is tough here. It's really now how far do we want to take this new... How far do we want to take this Rudy-like... Yeah, Rudy-like band. it's a broody like band the movie broody if rudy was five monsters it's not the band rooney it's the no it's not they're nothing like rooney they're not like rooney it's like rudy but will this outcome be more like uh

later in life rudy Like the tragic stuff. I don't know about that. I don't really remember the specifics, but it's just like, oh, no. I don't know what you're talking about. After the big game or whatever, it's just like, oh, it wasn't easy. The real life person you're talking about? Yeah. Rudy, not Rooney.

What happened to Rooney? Oh, I thought you were. Okay. We keep talking about. I don't know what happened to Rooney. I haven't heard from Rooney in a while. Where's Rooney been? I know where Andy Rooney? Oh, I thought you were... Okay. We keep talking about... I don't know what happened to Rooney. I haven't heard from Rooney in a while. Where's Rooney been? I know where Andy Rooney is.

Diseased. I don't mind the dry heat of hell. All right. Munch versus Calico. Oh, boy. I'm losing my mind here. Yeah. Look. It's hard because we've lived with Munch versus Calico. Oh, boy. I'm losing my mind here. Yeah, look, it's hard because we've lived with Munch so long, and Calico is so new, but truly the feeling I get from it

is some band who I've been with for a long time. I get a vibe of, oh, these people have been in my life for a long time. Instantly classic. Instantly classic. like oh these these people have been in my life for a long time instantly classic instantly classic instantly it's not it doesn't feel it's retro but it's not a novelty retro that's what i feel about it as well i like this sentiment but let me say this the what do we know about the calico coffin creepers music it's like ding ding ding ding what do we know about the other competitor? We've got it. Together we've got it. We've got it.

I mean, now that's echoing. Look, I didn't vote for them in the first round, but it's hard to not respect the work. Yeah, I think the substance is going to outweigh the style. Well, this is the problem. Chuck E. Cheese just has so much material that is available that we've poured over, and it's hard to completely just give it to Calico based on speculation.

And I understand they beat the Country Bears. Speculation of what their other work would be like. I mean, Country Bears obviously are fantastic, and that band is fantastic. But you know the kind of music that they play. The Country Bears music we don't hear, we can guess what it's like. What does an alien on a tissue box guitar play with a Nosferatu and a washboard? Yeah.

Who knows? Yeah. They're like, they're craft work. They're outsider. Right. yeah they're like they're craft work they're outsider right um but yeah i think sadly munch has to win we still you get a monster either way and i get a monster either way a purple monster all right all right i guess the corporations win this time munch goes ahead Munch goes to the final Which leaves us with Sunny Eclipse Versus the E.T. The Brutalization

Yeah I don't think this is a tough one I like River of E.T. I think it is tough Two Wonderful Aliens Yeah Two Wonderful Aliens And I didn't vote for E.T. in the last round And it's tricky Because some of these, yeah, they don't have the discography that the others do. And it's hard because...

He has no discography. Yeah, that's true. We have eight original songs versus... Let me bring this up. Does something have to be a pop song structure to rock? Does it have to be a three, four, rock does it have to be a three four five minute pop song lounge song whatever no because marquee moon the television saw marquee moon is 10 minutes long well marquee moon is a different story it is a rocking song but i'm saying even structureless

i'm saying even you know i don't think that on broto is og they have three minute pop songs or even 10 minute pop songs and recordings. Maybe they don't have musical recordings. Music is just a full on expression of yourself as an artist. Okay. So there isn't even, what I'm saying is that this is handicapped by this, the lack of rock and roll on the green planet.

So we have to take all of that idea out of our head here and just judge this little et based on what he's doing and how we feel he's expressing himself because it's not a play a fair playing field here do you know what i'm saying there's no even chance that he would have like oh you know this is a session musician he's been on i don't think he looked the the the astro organ is a piece that he had to buy or build or have commission but that's an expensive piece that's of like that you know that's what a big touring musician could afford this et this little bro zoji is just playing what's around yeah he's playing the plants that he lives with right and sunny eclipse like sunny

eclipse is obviously from a place that is very similar to our world because he is playing three-minute songs. He is playing three-ish minute songs. They have chorus, verse, what have you. But the E.T. is just letting the music flow out of him. It's the most pure, maybe, musician in this whole field wow that's what i would say about him i haven't decided yet i'm just saying that we can't that's so so emotional it

makes me want to vote yeah it's kind of beautiful thank you i'm just trying to i'm trying to give him credit because he's he's he's at uh he's not on on the same. Just a little guy on a planet who doesn't even know what he has to offer. Like a boy lifting up a broom with the special power that he doesn't even know the full weight of. He's like a little broom boy. He's like a little broom boy. I completely agree. So when you're making your decision now i want you to think about that and think about that yes sunny eclipse is the shinier object in this and and we recognize

more of what he's doing because it's so close to our world but really examine in your heart what this little E.T. is hitting the glowing things. Think about how much he rocks in the context of his world. Of its world. I can't tell if now we all just say sunny eclipse after that emotion. Or if... Everyone has to make... Here's let's all write it down so we don't get influenced by each other let's all choose what we're gonna choose and i'm gonna write it down on my thing here and we'll show each other

and then we'll do it we have to don't you don't want to say it out loud for the audio oh i guess we'll say it out loud but now this will be proof that we actually we're not lying or trying to like go against the others you know what i mean i just want this to be fully okay fully fair okay uh wait hang on okay okay so what we'll do is five four three two one and then we'll all say it i don't know why i said five and not three but that's what we're gonna do hold up the suspense okay okay all right five four three two one did we get swayed wait what'd you say you're sunny all right and i'm fine with that i think that's right but yours you did influence me that was so beautiful thank you and i was just i've been pulling for him the whole time the other way the other way. I said I hadn't decided.

I said I was just trying to think about it. You got me. You got this musician alone. Doesn't even know where to put the gifts that he has. Yeah. But maybe that was Sonny once. Maybe. Maybe Sonny was on a similar planet.

We don't know how he grew up. Yeah. He might have had a really hard-boiled life. Possible. planet we don't know how he grew up yeah he might have had a really hard-boiled life possible and he rose up to become a slightly paid attention to animatronic at a busy theme park who is going possible screwed by cosmic like cosmic ray is going to shaft oh you're right you're right he has the troubles the tips and the door well this is what i might have guessed where I might have guessed that we'd land. And I like where we land for the final two, the top of the top, which is Munch's make-believe band versus Sunny Eclipse.

I mean, if you had to put money on it. I guess I thought Five Bear Rugs would make it further and not lose immediately. Yeah. But, oh, God. Here it will. I don't know. Do you know already? I don't know do you know already i don't know either i think i know wow do you have another speech in you michael to sway us i think i do one speech per episode oh okay so you're tapped you're tapped out i don't know if i have a speech in me yeah i don't

know it's band versus solo and versus solo which you Which you can't. Which I'm supporting. It's all acts that I've voted against. Yeah. And yet, but I still like that. I have no, I take no offense to either of these. I think these are some fine artists. Chuck E. Cheese, the underdog in this case, a big company, but compared to the Walt Disney Company, the underdog.

Uh-huh. Well, and look, this band is getting removed everywhere there's only one sunny yeah and they thankfully there are so many more things disney has to deal with that they probably are just forgetting to get rid of sunny eclipse as opposed to the active extermination of munch's make-believe band this is a corporate priorities to get rid of them but that just makes them more of an underdog absolutely yes no i'm saying i i think it's i think it's terrible what's happening to them i think it's a real shame i agree uh i will say they're taking the munches their body of work both of the bodies of work i mean sunny eclipse

is it is all killer no filler not i'm not talking about the name of that some 41 album i mean that is the the phrase to to say like the songs are all solid and good they're of a piece and there's not really a clunker in there there's ones we like better than others chucky cheese has a sprawling i guess it's kind of beatles rolling beatles has like 10 years of great stuff rolling stone says like 10 15 years of great stuff. Rolling Stone says like 10, 15 years of great stuff. And then you get the later stuff. And it's like. According to music critics, their best stuff has been in the last five years.

Is that true? It's just always like if you're an old music critic, you're like Stone's better than ever. As they do their boring like noodley album. Yeah. Bigger bang. They've never been better than Bigger Bang. That is, who said that? No one.

Critics do. I don't like it, but it's true. What did the on-winner say about Bigger Bang? Who do you think is publishing these ancient music credits? Yeah, that's true. But, yeah, you would say, it's, sometimes it's, sometimes it's interesting, like, the Quentin Tarantino idea to make just like 10 good movies or whatever like is that better would we rather have artists do 50 things and half of them are

good or would you rather have the artists do you know a couple things and they're perfect or they're amazing like that's i think a question i'm that's what i'm struggling with right now is i i think i know but that's what i'm thinking about well you want a majority of that body of work to be about pizza and soda that's certainly what you want either way yes or the presence of a toppings bar yes you want to they do both of these acts do sing about the food a little bit uh-huh yeah there's there are topping bars and play both here that's kind of tragic no toppings bar right now but sunny does he talk about the toppings maybe not i don't think he talks about the toppings bar and i don't think chucky's like yeah it happens by cosmic rays i like that there's a full universe fleshed out there unseen there's the space angel there's

the cause there's cosmic ray we know his boss we know his support system support system his support i really like that he's related to the customs agent from Star Tours in Japan. Yes. Officer Zizek's. That it ties together a global mythology.

But there's so much universe at Chuck E. Cheese. No, of course. And you didn't. You used to be able to travel a lot. You know, ease of seeing them. I mean, you got the special. And you didn't. You used to be able to travel a lot, you know, ease of seeing them. Mm-hmm. I mean, you got the special,

it goes both ways. It's special, you can only see sunny eclipse in one place, but back in the day, you used to probably only go a mile or two, you know, to your local Chuck E. Cheese establishment. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, right. It's a special thing is, like that's again, there's, yeah, do you consider it being special? Is that better? But it's also inconvenient thing is like that's again there's yeah do you can you consider it being special is that better but it's also inconvenient well it is inconvenient that's true is you know sunny refers to his we think that maybe cosmic ray isn't treating him the best uh the business owner in this case is chucky he's in the band uh right i've watched bar rescues where the bar owner goes

up and performs and john does not like that it distracts him from the business it drives business away underground wonder bar what's underground wonder bar i don't know that's the chicago one with the owner and her son running it and she does like new agey like oh right just unlistenable new age kind of stuff so it's terrible and they they moved from somewhere to they they had to get out of their old space and they moved to somewhere where the rent is like five to ten times more it was a bad decision every part of it was a bad decision they could fill the space though the music sounds solid um but but here we have the but you know what he's no look chucky is a vibrant part of the band he even put the spotlight on munch he didn't put his own name in the band and he could have

he easily could have he's the owner yeah that's true and he draws he dresses dapper uh and he you know maybe he'd end up with a better singer in there but i like unorthodox he's kind of a with his his nasalness and whininess he's kind of a donald fagan that's true yeah that's true chucky cheese is donald fagan and i'm not going to argue against a donald fagan type yeah and look the band we haven't even we haven't you know we've talked about him before but helen helen is a great singer too helen henney um and she's you know she's been slighted a lot in the various Chuck E. Cheese media. As you pointed out.

What does she say in that movie? Yeah, I can't remember. But she's one of the guys. Oh, yeah. She's just one of the gays. Yeah. And it's unfair to her, but she's got a great voice. She's got great presence. She's only gotten better.

I think the newer Helens are superior. I agree. She's been gotten better. I think the newer Helens are superior. Yeah, I agree. She's been fleshed out. So it's tricky because Sonny is at, Sonny is, it's tough here because he's just one alien and there's so many good performers. Is it, does it maybe by going Chuck, does it nod to Chuck E. Cheese's ancestors?

As we all like, you know we we need our ancestors for us to be here today and we have to honor them right isn't when they literally are made of the metal bones of other competitors in this competition do you honor the whole and chucky cheese who produced so many great artists that we've discussed over the course of the last seven hours or whatever it's been. Do we honor all of their work by choosing Munch's Make-Believe Band? It's an interesting point. Yes. The history of rock and roll is honored.

The history of fake rock and roll is honored when you choose Munch's Make-Believe Band. Oh, and you know what and it's look sunny is firmly lounge and we're and and whereas munch's make-believe band rocks there's no argument against that there is no argument against that's true i mean we all remember obviously like walking on the sun in the 90s lounge there was a lounge period the song tangerine speedo we all remember from the late 90s very loungy yeah there was a short era lounge like when the british rock band like the kinks and stuff would do that like music hall that yeah sure yeah but munch's make-believe band rocks and is this not the fake

rock music final Four? Yeah Maybe we've landed there Yeah You wanna say it? I think Munch's Make Believe Band Munch's Make Believe Band and you You've got it Yay

You got it We got it We won the award Or whatever this is What's this shit? If there's a free meal I'll be there Make sure to clean my head out with Windex Spray some Lysol in my empty head

Don't just do it once a year, once a fiscal year Do it once a month, please You knew we'd beat that ugly alien mug Yeah, we stomped him like a bug We'll take care of him or any other competitors. Yeah, we're on delivery apps as two restaurants. What of it?

Well, that's not the end. We'll make ten of them. We're doing it forever. It's part of the business model now. Oh, what have we done? Yeah. We've awarded this to it. That's what I was going to say. Look, I think Sonny's a good guy. Yeah. Maybe is Chuck a little toxic well our favorite chucky cheese is the original one uh or the ones he was still kind of like that when we were kids he was really surly he was

really shady uh he was less shady when we were kids the original version was really shady which i do think is the best version. But yeah, now he's kind of happy-go-lucky, and they've gotten rid of that. He's now a mouse. He's not a rat. Yeah, yeah. He's shaken off the rat qualities. So I guess you have to take all of the Chucks in.

And you know, look, Chuck is just an unfortunate... Look, there's... As with... Mike Love is a kind of toxic presence in a band that i love but i still find a lot to enjoy about mike love and i think chuck is the mike love he's the guy who doesn't play an instrument he doesn't add to uh the musical blend in the way that favors hats yes he's a big hat guy probably balding underneath yeah for sure um but it's really i think this is is, let's just, Chuck's there, but we know that like Mike Love, if he was here in person,

he'd make a really bizarre speech. Oh, yeah. He would be so mean. And Sonny Eclipse has always been too chicken shit to get on stage with Munch's make-believe band. And I challenge the fucking... I challenge the four little shavers to get up here any... I'll whoop their ass.

Yeah. Sorry, I've been on a pizza fast. I guess I'm a little nuts right now. Sonny plays to warm crowds in Orlando every day. Come to the mean streets of Wilmington, Delaware and try that shit. David Crosby tweets i hate chucky cheese but it's not like it's a shared victory this is about munch's make-believe band we love munch yeah we do really is i think powered it i played helen henney yes yeah yeah and we've

talked at length about them but and we will talk about it at length more, I'm sure. Maybe soon, I don't know. But yeah, there's too much good stuff going on. That's right. And if a Muppet ripoff monster and an Italian chef and a dog and a bird and a toxic rat can come together to create decades of great music, which is mostly being eliminated from Chuck E. Cheese locations, then isn't there hope for all of us?

I think so. That was beautiful, I think. I think so. It's where it needed to land. I'm happy with it, though I voted against them. Congratulations, Munch's Make Believe Band. You survived Podcast the the ride the fake rock music final four uh hey we talked about a lot of second gate stuff and if you want to know what

we're talking about with sally and sunny eclipse and all that go to patreon.com slash podcast the ride look up those episodes and otherwise uh keep it here where there's i don't know a lot we'll talk about all this shit so much more. Yes. We will be back with more bullshit. We'll be back. Think of a new contest we can win. Yeah. Forever

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