Podcast: The Ride - Fast & Furious – Supercharged

Episode Date: January 8, 2021

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FOREVER! DOG! Warning! The following podcast is for family only. If you ain't family, stop listening. But guess what? You're all family! So grab the nearest helicopter that's as big as you, and hold on tight, cookie puss. It's Fast and Furious Supercharged,

on podcast The Ride or Die. 2021 baby podcast the ride the only theme park podcast where we live our lives a quarter mile at a time and for those 90 minutes to say three three and a half hours we're free i'm jason sheridan uh scott gerner here yeah scairdner's here, and I'm so happy because my demand for the first episode and for this topic was that Jason kick it off, because I knew Mike and I would only be pretenders. I knew

we wouldn't do it right, and Jason, you did it right. You did it right, bud. You did. Thank you so much. Mike Carlson also here. I am here, yes, and I want to say, Jason, you're not my friend. You're my family. Family. Salute Familia. Both you and Scott are not friends. You're family. Well, we don't have friends. We have family.

That's right. That's how it goes. So here we are, 2021. New year. New year. New season of Podcast the Ride. What do do are we in season do we do seasons I don't think we do I think it's just one big mass yeah so we okay not new season

new year new fun new thrills still at home individually for now yes that part has not changed doesn't mean we're not family though you know hey with this this holiday season families had to come together on zoom and we're gonna be doing it for uh you

know till november when the fuck is this over foreseeable future every article has a wildly different timeline and answer for you we just better not be saying all right baby 2022 we're back still zoom but uh you know it's pretty much gonna work we're really fit like the they're vaccinating 150 people now a week in los angeles and we think they're gonna get it up to 175 so we're gonna be on the list hopefully at the end of 2022 hopefully that doesn't happen i'm just saying i'm saying um but we you know who knows who knows we're all gonna have to get jobs as doctors just to get on the list yes okay i don't want to really derail the whole episode by this but i have wondered and i've thrown it out to you guys or floated the idea of, is there an opportunity for me to use my checking abilities to get the vaccine early?

I don't know that there is yet, but I've seen different people go like, hey, we wandered into that CVS and we just got a vaccine because they were running like the fridge was going to go bad in the fridge, essentially. So they were just like they saw five people and they go, hey, these vaccines because we're gonna we gotta get them now before they go bad and people got them so i was like is there a way i can get on in the same way that i'm on like ps5 sales tracker that knows when a ps5 goes on sale is there a vaccine tracker twitter account that i they will send me alerts and that'll say oh oh, you know, the CVS in Palmdale has 12 vaccines. You should head up there. That's a good idea because in Washington, DC, a bunch of the giant supermarkets, the giant brand supermarkets are like, hey, if we have extras at the end of the day, first come first serve for vaccines.

And look, I'm sure i said this other story you always wait around you know i was in line to get free rolling stones tickets when they played the echoplex which is a tiny place and i left the line early and i found out later they were just handing them out to people on the street because there weren't enough people in line and i learned a valuable lesson that day you always just hang around this lesson might save life now yes very valuable lesson um so well it depends i hang around. This lesson might save your life now. Yes. A very valuable lesson. Well, it depends. We don't know what's going to happen

past these, you know, sort of the most important groups to get vaccinated, and if beyond this initial point, they start doing it via boarding groups, then you might be, I don't know, you might be in luck, and I would like to be in your boarding group, if possible. All right, well, yes. If it's boarding groups, I don't know, you might be in luck, and I would like to be in your boarding group if possible.

All right, well, yes. If it's boarding groups, if it's like, yes, exactly like Galaxy's Edge or getting on Rise of the Resistance, it'll be groups of eight, I think, is the max. Yeah. And look, we've all got each other's passes. We've all got each other's annual passes in the useless Disneyland app. We can all help

check we can get off wi-fi use data because that's going to be more reliable you know we're all on the same health care and the same health care app and it's all very easy to use and very not confusing same dog shit covered california plans sure i'm on some sort of dog shit california plan i believe uh but yeah so so i will pledge if there is a checking element to the vaccinations i will help us all get them but i don't know that there are there will be yeah yeah but that's that's certainly your best hope it's all of our best hope uh yeah we hope checking possible um yeah Yeah, we'll see where this goes. But, you know, a tough year last year, obviously. Hopefully this year ends up a little brighter.

You know, and I think family has helped us get through it, I think. And that includes you, the podcast, the ride family. You're not just part of our crew. You're part of our family. Now, of course, family, you know, still bickers sometimes. You don't always get along. And that's, but, you know, that's sort of what being part of a family is all about. And with that, there's a new format that we're going to introduce for 2021. A new type of episode.

And this requires you, the podcast the ride family uh and the uh well i don't know you know mike this is your idea do you want to uh do you want to introduce us to this this new episode format um i'm just going to say the one word that will be the i think the title of the episode and i think you'll know what we're getting at here uh gripes gripes because from time to gripes from time to time on social media i will see oh so and so didn't like this writer they had a bad opinion jason didn't like uh hmm i'm just trying to say i'm not yeah i'm a pretty easy mark uh jason likes every jason likes everything except for the frozen ride in epcot for some weird reason.

Okay, wait. He doesn't like the Frozen ride and he didn't like the Avengers Infinity War. He likes every other Marvel movie, but he doesn't like Infinity War because it made kids too sad, he said. I also did not like the West Coast Customs roller coaster at Six Flags Magic Mountain. Insane. Yet another roller coaster trying to kill me. So there's three things Jason doesn't like. He didn't like walking through

the mostly abandoned Margaritaville complex. That was one. No, I didn't. Four, we've got four. Can we get five? Can we think of a fifth thing Jason doesn't like? I mean, I've had some bad treats at theme parks. There's definitely been some bad, like, stiff brownies,

some stale brownies and stuff. Hmm. Stiff brownies? Stiff brownies. Wet quesadillas at Margaritaville, you know? Soaking wet quesadillas. But is it on purpose wet, or is it... Because, like, sometimes you get a wet burrito,

and it's very good, but if it's wet quesadilla, and you didn't order that, and it's just, like,. But if it's a wet quesadilla and you didn't order that and just like wet. There's no wet quesadilla makes no sense. It's too flat. There wouldn't be anything left. That's not you wouldn't purposefully order a burrito. You got a lot of the substance. All right.

That's fair. But yeah, I'd swell. I'll put that on my own list, too. I don't like wet quesadillas either. Okay, fine. Wet quesadillas. Yeah. Okay. If it's accidentally wet, if somebody's made some sort of an innovation in quesadillas either. Okay, fine. Wet quesadillas. Yeah, okay. If it's accidentally wet, if somebody's made some sort of an innovation in quesadilla making

and they figured out a way to make a wet quesadilla, I'm interested. But yes, if it's just wet, that's on my list as well. I also don't care for a stiff brownie. I'm anti-stiff brownie. I like a nice, soft, chewy brownie, not stiff. Yeah. I mean, I like the corners i like the burnt corn i'll do that but like sure um you know what i mean so what's the what are we what's

what we're getting at here is that you know say jason was a listener of the podcast and he heard me say you know what i love eating a good stiff brownie i like it when it's stale i like when it's hard i want it to feel like it's some sort of a paperweight in my mouth. I like that. He would say, okay, I have a gripe with you, Mike. And then you'll see it. We'll put it online and you would write into an anonymous prompt. Jason Sheridan would say, but he's anonymous, I'm getting confused. He would say, Mike, I don't like when you praise stiff brownies. And then I will see that, and then we will respond to these gripes on an episode. Yes. To talk it through.

Maybe either we'll get defensive, or we'll say, you know what? Maybe you're right. Maybe I've been too hard on stiff brownies, and I should reconsider them. So we're hoping this opens up an interesting dialogue. We can chat about the different things. And we also get to see maybe there's one thing that I always say I don't like or like that everyone in the audience thinks I'm wrong about. So we'll see, sort of take the temperature of the audience to see exactly if we're all in line together, or maybe one of us has

a really radical opinion has there been some take that is not a hot take in a good way that's a that's a wrong take a cold take uh is there some you know is is there a piece of information that we got wrong and you know that we we got it wrong we heard a little of this recently we're talking about we were talking about dollywood and saying how it's hard so hard to get to and isn't it in a dry county and somebody was like enough is enough guys you are wrong about all this so things like that are helpful it's nice to be corrected it's a little bit of a correction segment i think possibly too but if it's just you know yeah there's something that we say over and over we disagree with or you want us to reconsider? One thing is, did we do an entire park or a ride and we left out some aspect or something that matters to you and we skipped over it brazenly and you want us to put a spotlight on it?

That's a gripe. I talked about doing a lost and found idea on the Patreon and we haven't done that maybe this is the way to do it you do it under gripes do we lose something in the past with a topic it's time for us to find it and we can do it via your gripes right we can do a lot via your gripes

is I think what we're realizing especially even now keep the gripes don't let's not make them maybe personal attacks but I mean maybe if your gripe is like look Mike you've had specializing especially even now um now keep the gripes don't let's not make them maybe personal attacks but i mean maybe if your gripe is like look mike you've had the same haircut for like seven years i think you would look good with a crew cut or something as long as you spin into that in a positive way i'm not going to be upset yeah keep it clean keep it nice although i got a gripe if one more person sends us that pixar name the podcast thing the guy with glasses in that meme looks like shit uh so i know if i get that one more time

i'm throwing this macbook out the window no one in that is like us i don't understand i don't understand the meme i get that there's like three dudes and like white dudes who do podcasts. But then within that, how is that us? I don't know. Well, it's Al from Al's Toy Barn from Toy Story 2 is in there. There is not an Al among us. That's not right. Yeah, Jason, if Jason, you're obviously responding because you believe people are calling you Al. I don't think you're Al.

Thank you. I don't think you're l i i know i don't think you're l at all i mean l if anyone's like l it's me i have all these goddamn toys behind me and you don't and you sometimes forget the lesson that toys are to be played with and not stored uh forever although you do take them out of the box you don't leave them you you you don't align with stinky p Pete's philosophy. I do not align with Stinky Pete's philosophy. There was one time when I was moving some stuff around and Lindsay walked in and she goes, you like touching the toys, don't you? And I went, I do.

Yes. Gotta let him breathe. I wasn't touching like Donatello's penis or anything. I was just like holding them and placing them and putting them around. That's she meant i wasn't like caressing his turtle cheek or something one of those where you give us the fodder along with the statement as with the foot stuff saying it i was like oh this is a fun little anecdote i'll tell and i was like oh now i'm opening up myself to like the fact that i'm like molesting my toys as I play with them. Mike likes touching the toys. He likes taking his socks off in the log. In the

stiff brownie log. In the stiff brownie log. You know, I think we've at least... I'm already feeling good about this episode. We've started a couple new things this year. I'm sexual with my toys and that

jason hates stiff brownies so yeah we've got some new new things to play with in this coming upcoming year and i'm looking for it because i'm just going to make a soundboard of my voice that just plays the the words okay or not looking for notes and i'll just jump back and forth between those two that's it no further response on these grapes if I can figure out how to clip that pop song from a few years ago

where the chorus is just I don't care I love it I love it I don't care I don't care about your grimes. Jason's the least resistant. Maybe. Jason's the least resistant to gripes.

He doesn't want to hear the gripes. So this will be funnier, actually. You know what? I take it back. Be as rude as you want to Jason, but be real. Okay, well, look. Just because we haven't gotten a chance to see our families or take a general meeting in a while and we're just craving criticism doesn't mean you have to be mean.

All right, don't be mean to Jason. We're still good boys. These are gripes, but we're still good boys, so be nice. But if there's been some burning opinion, if you've had it for a year, we've been doing this podcast for a couple years now, and if there's something from episode two that made you mad or just want to correct us on set us straight there's a lot of things that gripes could be so we've set up a google form that asks you if you have any gripes and you can

put the gripes anonymously it's really like a little comment box a suggestion box we'll put that in the link to this episode and we'll also tweet it out we'll make sure that you find the gripes page and yeah as we said it's anonymous if you want to put your name uh feel free if you want us to associate you with this gripe but if you just you know if you want uh anonymity uh in a voting way then then feel free um this also is not a requirement but

i was going to throw this in as something that i think that would make us for me it would skip a gripe to the the front of the line uh just because i would enjoy it uh um you know like with jeopardy uh answering in the form of a question i think it would be nice if the gripes started with the phrase yeah i got a gripe all right so if you start your gripe with that yeah i got a gripe all right right. Scott, your Rex is overrated. Whatever it is. I think that's a nice piece of the flow, and I'd enjoy reading that. But up to you.

Yeah, I think that, yeah. If your gripe is that you hate that, and you don't want to dictate some phrase to me, then that's a fair gripe. Mm-hmm. Yeah, to use that, I mean, I mean i think that yeah as long as we can do a little voice we're always going to be a little happier to do anything as you if you listen to the show you know anytime we can do a voice we all like to do it ad nauseum this is very true

so yeah give us the chance to do a little voice, and it'll cushion the blow of the gripe that is coming. So podcasts are at gripes, and we'll collect those and then put them up probably as a Patreon episode over, I don't know, at some point next month or something. Yeah. So we'll brazen for gripes. Brazen for gripes.

And speaking of gripes fast and furious supercharged oh man better way the ultimate gripe the ultimate gripe although i gotta say i watched one of those youtube channels that like uh you know does stuff about theme park history at all and one of them was laying it on a little thick about i thought the same thing yeah i don't i don't even know which one so i won't call them out but yeah i have a call out but i know yeah calm down but you know it fit the but we were trying to think how to start the year and we were saying well like a bigger one but of course bigger ones you know we're trying to do this dance where there's so many bigger attractions that we would love to do in person as we've now declared we're going to do with the

Country Bear Jamboree or live shows we'd like to do. What's a big attraction that we can let live in the awful morass of the Zoom era? I say Fast and Furious Supercharge. Let's hit the nitrous and kick off this year right.

That's how we roll. As Don Omar Busta Rhyuster rhymes reek the villain and jay do what sang oh yeah oh the whole gang hell yeah this is not we're not putting the fast and furious franchise in this gripe category i have not seen all i full disclosure i've not seen all of them it is on my list to watch all of them this year at certain point i know they're they're very fun they're insane but we don't the ride itself is going into the gripe column here not yeah that's important to clarify i think because yeah you don't want to be like the cultural snob who's these films that are yeah i think they're they're fun people like them people have a blast going to them when when they open up and i it's just uh what they ended up doing with it is yeah i think caused

a reckoning at universal i think it i think it impacted what they're going to do for the future i think that's 100 right and i i i re-watched the first one last night I'm gonna re-watch them all now because I've watched them at like half on USA half on like an airplane and like they are very fun and I would go so far as to say I read one like a review of them once of like these are kind of more

fun Avengers movies like especially when they get to 5, 6, 7 and they get to the spy stuff and all like it's like yeah these are really fun like i don't the early ones are fun in their own way the middle ones are fun in their own way i it's just wild and then they've retconned stuff like the watching order of the movies is technically one two four five six three seven eight because they retcon the order that they go in uh the character han is technically the same character um from better luck tomorrow that that actor plays and justin lynn directed it's so wild the mythology of these movies where does hobs and shaw fall into

the chronology hobs and shaw i think happens directly either between seven and eight or right after eight oh characters come back from the dead like comic book logic applies which is awesome like it's so fun which sort of happens in the ride a little not dead but there's a you know like i mean we'll get to it but there's it doesn't really fall on the timeline of the movies super well or they have to nudge some stuff right um so yeah so yeah we've just set that aside the movies are good yeah you know here we go absolutely and so so the idea of their their being attractions of these of these films makes a lot of sense. For something that we're doing, for a topic

that we're doing in the near future, I was trying to figure out what are some of the biggest properties that don't have an affiliated theme park attraction. And in looking at what are just the highest grossing films, I just haven't looked in a while at what are the highest grossing films, and especially when you

look at a list and how many all right, how many franchises, you know, take over seven, eight slots in that list? And Fast and Furious is way up there. It just like makes so much sense on paper for them to do something, for them to exploit this in the theme parks somehow. that it came up one of those theme park review videos reminded me that fast and furious came up as a rumor when they took out the back to the future ride that they said like this space is going to be used maybe for simpsons or maybe for fast and furious um which i think people were maybe happier with simpsons because you know probably if you're a big bad to the future fan you also like the simpsons uh fast and furious is maybe less guaranteed that you well um and around that time fast and furious was not the worldwide sensation that it became once they started just shoving people in there just oh

that's jumping in like the rock and john cena like them and yeah stay thumb yeah you're right it would have been weirder at the day would have felt more akin to let's just make everything about brendan fraser mummy for a while like like is this really gonna i mean those are good rides obviously but uh um but you know i've made the complaint that uh there was a time at universal hollywood where there were like three things based on that mummy and like that seems like a lot um so i don't know yeah it seemed weirder at the time now of course it makes sense to do an attraction but yeah as we've said before i think we've said this before um if you're gonna do a ride based on the movies about fast cars would it not make sense to make it a ride involving fast cars?

Speed, literal, actual speed. Literal speed. Yeah, when one of the movies has the word drift in the title, you want to give us the opportunity to do a drift instead of sit between two IMAX screens? Yeah, you would think, my first thought would be, oh, could they do some crazy like test track fast and furious ride yeah yeah and they obviously they could do that but like cars land the radiator springs racer should be a fast and furious ride that should be the scope of a fast and furious

ride little dark ride you see all your friends you see. And then you have a fun, crazy race at the end. Yeah, absolutely. That's the plus up, right? That you just fixed it immediately. Right. It takes up a lot more room, but with the amount of money the Fast and Furious movies have made, I don't think that that's crazy to devote that much space to the franchise. No.

Well, and here's the situation i think because this was sort of shoehorned into if you don't know the full scope of of the of supercharged it exists as well you know i'll just read off of the wikipedia because i thought this was phrased uh accidentally brilliantly fest and fury is supercharged is an attraction at universal studios hollywood universal studios florida and was canceled at universal studios beijing after the response to florida it became a defunct attraction before it was ever a existing attraction um so uh it is one of those in the long tradition of Universal Rides that is a freestanding ride in Florida, but started as a stop on the tram tour. And in fact, for a while has been the, as they put it, grand finale of the tram tour, which was sort of missing like the big kick at the end.

This replaced the literal space where they had the mummy tunnel and one of the many mummy things they had. You sat in a weird tube that twisted you around and that was the end of the tour. So the desire to kind of go out with a bang on the Tram Tour makes a lot of sense. And this thing was clearly based on

the initial good response to the King Kong screen attraction that's kind of midway through the Tram Tour. Yeah, and that brings up a couple good points, Scott. One, why does this one get so much more flack than the reign of Kong at Islands of Adventure? Is it just because Kong is more endearing to us

and there's a big animatronic at the end and there's a lot of fake rock work? Animatronic helps a lot. Yeah, and that you actually go somewhere. That little outdoor path does a lot for you, even though it's very short. It feels like they did more to make this its own fleshed-out attraction,

to make Kong its own fleshed-out attraction than make Kong its own fleshed out attraction than they did Fast and Furious. It felt like they just kind of copy pasted the tram show except with like a weird Ghostbusters-esque room with a refillable hourly employee

talking at you before you get on the ride. Yeah. It feels like, really really this should maybe be a lesson and i'm not to imagine here's people i'm sure there was much cooler ideas for it but like management when it comes to just a little bit goes a long way in regards to to kong versus fast and furious in florida because it's like it's just the difference is a giant monkey head and then maybe like an extra scene like there's an extra scene i think on it from the one from the tram tour version and yes the exterior is like pretty cool is there there's extra favorite uh there's

extra video it's extra right so yes so just a little bit more goes a long way and then yeah kong does not get the shit that fast and furious gets well that's what i was starting to say there was that um you know i i definitely did this on the tram and was like a little underwhelmed but i certainly wasn't mad at it uh and i think it existing within the tram lets you cut some slack but when you install this as its own big new freestanding attraction years later in florida i think the expectation goes up and i think a lot of people were like it's not just gonna be the tram thing right i think i even thought is it elements of that but then it's its own ride system

that is more like radiator springs or something and nope no party buses right yeah yeah i i think we all assume though there's no way they're just going to plug it in. Because, yeah, the Tram Tour is good. Like, it's good. It's fun. Oh, it's like we're kind of watching a movie. And, like, there's a fun couple parts. There's a lot of, like, universal tropes of screens, like, where something hooks to you.

And there's, like, stuff like that. But, oh, it's fine. But there's no way they're gonna just port this thing over but you know money I guess money at the time so and the desire to just get it in

quicker I guess if it's just if it's just the screen version so well and again Scott you brought up that these are like the last two of these movies grossed over one billion dollars each so like yeah get them in the parks so yeah

I kind of get that but what an execution I mean I remember doing the Hollywood one for the first time and I was like okay yeah that kind of makes sense but yeah that to do this the same thing in florida exactly years later is so funny really strange can we i mean can we cliff notes and i and i say i ask you guys this because i don't think i can

can we cliff notes what it is i think our listeners know for the most part but can we like how do you quickly explain what this is without getting into like uh okay so then uh teretto and uh like uh letty comes in like well and uh fbi uh okay well uh i guess we'll start let's start with the hollywood one um because the hollywood one is has the element of like the tram tour that it's got to deal with as well um and this was not the first fast and the furious thing on the tram tour either when this opened they closed the fast and the furious extreme close-up where they used used two car shells on kooka arms, and they launched them at you,

and then the cars danced to Gasolina. I was thinking about this. Don't we all love that much more than the ride? I do think it's cute. Scott won't go that far. Scott, did you have to see it a lot? Yes, and that was the... Forgive me, I'm sure I'm repeating things, but that debuted the summer that I started as a tour guide.

And I remember when they, I'm in the training program, cool, and I just get to go on the tram and this is my job. And I was so excited and get to, I did the Duke King king kong first and like i just love being there no matter what and then you start going up the hill and then like wait what is this thing and it i just remember me feeling so deflated the first time and then thinking i have to do this many times a day and it's you know if i was in a good mood on those things i i would have a blast with it no matter what but if i was just not feeling the tram that day i the part where i really died was like uh and that's why we're gonna talk about picture cars and then you and then you pass by a bunch of like mediocres or like a little rascals

go-karts and and then you go into this weird little corral and then two uh there's a lot of like just sound effects without anything corresponding like okay bullets and then you hear bullet sounds and then cars sort of fly at you slowly and the two the two lines that just crushed my spirit every single time uh and again give it a how about a hand for our picture cars carnage and karma take a bow boys and then they would do a little boop which is like now i'm fond of now that it's gone i'm a little more fond of it i could see how that would great on you but as somebody who would get to you know see the tour once a year twice a year maybe uh so yeah basically if in case you don't we're talking about on the tram tour the cars would sort of do like a trick for you basically like they were

peeling out and and like gonna drive at you and then there was like an explosion explosion they flew out of an explosion and then like you know as if uh flying right as if you're the pov of the camera and then it stopped they stopped right at the point where they would hit the tram. And then that's when you would say those lines. By the way, I don't want to put you too much on the spot, Scott, but if you could just give us your you're feeling really good, you're feeling optimistic

from the tram tour, give us the best line reading you could of that moment. The take a bow, boys, moment. If you wouldn't mind. Alright, how about a hand for carnage and karma hey take a bow boys uh and then what was the line it was like like uh you got anything else to show us oh yeah it was it was uh hey got any other moves and then i got so thin and then they just kind of like spun around yeah a little bit the kook arms are the things they have the harry potter uh forbidden journey ride on that's like

can move all around so they would just on these two arms the cars would just kind of like dance but not really because they can't really dance turn and spin a little and you could see their undercarriage and there's nothing in it that they're just facades. Turn and spin a little. And you can see their undercarriage and that there's nothing in it, that they're just facades of cars. It's a lot of really unflattering. You're getting like upskirts of the cars. Unflattering angles.

Do we think that Luigi's dance at Cars Land was a reaction to this dancing cars? A response. Luigi's whatever it's called, something of the dance. Oh, yeah. I can't think of it. Well, the issue is that there weren't enough. Just two people dancing. If you're having a wedding or

some event and there's only two people on the dance floor, it's a little pathetic, but you get a ton out there, a ton of little coops, and now things have really happened um the the second one the line that really destroyed the spirits was it finishes and then you say take that dancing with the stars i don't care i don't care for that line no take it okay the show in general like and who from the show is on the the tram who's supposed to be offended and what why because they dance too could i say that if i danced a

little and then say and i say take that dancing with the stars i mean we're gonna whenever we do a full episode on this tram tour we'll break break it all down. But it is confusing because you should say like, oh, these two should be on Dancing with the Stars. Like that should be like the line. Way better. There may have even been, was it an alter? Did it just occur to me that you make it something about like, boy, I got another name for that. Dancing with the Cars. Oh, that's even better yeah

it's i i don't obviously i did that job and i loved it so my my problem was never with the corniness of it because there's like classic corniness there's the corniness of king kong's banana breath then the shark was his lawyer if it's like caked in corniness i kind of liked it but then dancing with the stars what i take that take that i was going to try to clip gasolina to play under the intro to the show but it's just it's very it's hard to compete with because it's so infectious look jay said i i don't want to this is going to make the audience sad and i wasn't even going to say anything but i had an idea to put to bring the soundboard back to this episode but i'm having a problem with the operating system working with the program that i was using so there will not be any gasolina played intermittently on this podcast today i'm not

saying though it's out of bounds for future episodes. Now I will promise there will be an episode in 2021 where all of a sudden Gasolina will just start playing while we're talking here and there. When we least suspect it. Scott, that was your first summer working the tour, and that was right around I first started going regularly. And I was out here doing internships. I was living close by, so I bought an annual pass.

And I went a lot. i was very cool in college and uh so i probably saw that thing a lot and saw you a lot you may have that's a weird thing the possibility that you took a uh a tram and then it was my tram tram tour and then walked and got taco tuesday Rubio's up at CityWalk Long gone fallen brother. Boy those are the days huh? Yeah Back when you had somebody trustworthy in office like Bush George W. Bush. There was nothing

quite like driving a golf cart up to CityWalk and trying to get six people's orders of one dollar taco combos with six things of coke and then driving down the hill at an 80 degree angle. Oh yeah, it's so steep. Steep, narrow roads.

And like a deer could dart out in front of you. Here in a Fast and Furious situation. Luigi's Rollicking Roadsters is the name of that ride. I was going to call Luigi's Lord of the Dance. Is that

something else? Is that like a short or something? Why do I have that in my head? I mean, I know what Lord of the Dance is. Not sure. I just put that in. That's not a thing. I feel like that's a joke Mater makes for the parents

in something. Anyway, we'll get should be though i feel like that's a joke mater makes for the parents it's something something you know maybe yeah um but anyway we'll get to the we'll get to the rollicking roadsters eventually that sounds like yeah we'll get to that anyway back to supercharged which is by the way the name of both the hollywood experience and the florida experience despite some differences at the hollywood part as we've said it's part of the studio tour and it kind of starts with the guide uh driving by ending wisteria lane and then they go some version of like oh weird there's a 1970s dodge uh charger uh that shouldn't be there or like that, that's suspicious. So, thanks, Karen, I guess. Stock car in a nice neighborhood,

I guess that's all it takes for someone to call in security at the Universal lot. But also, it's a movie studio lot. Yeah, there probably is a period perfect car. That should be there. It's a movie studio lot. Why is there probably is a period perfect car. That should be there. It's a movie studio lot. Why is that weird?

And I don't know, maybe one of the Desperate Housewives is hanging out with some young hotshot with a cool old car. I don't know what the Desperate Housewives do. Truly, I don't. I don't know what the show is. And it's weird that it's still like a big, before the grand finale, see where the Desperate Housewives lived they'll be back soon enough

they have to be back they have to be and they're more desperate they're young they're like it's a prequel and they're more desperate than when they were older even okay they've all moved off the street because only felicity huffman still lives on the street she agrees to do the reboot

because she needs the money. And then it's the next gen. It's the next gen of housewives. Yes, they're passing the torch, proving that anyone can be a desperate housewife. Anyone can be a desperate housewife. Well, we remember at the end of the series, there was a little girl with a broom house sweeping up. And she was sort of looking off into the distance

and realizing that she could be a desperate housewife. Should we add the addendum to the gripes that we will probably not respond to the gripes if they're about new Star Wars? Oh, yeah. We're not talking about new Star Wars. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're not falling into any trap. It's a trap. Sorry. I thought it was very cool during the seven and a half hour disney investor call where they thoughtfully announced the uh you know a young muslim woman superhero very diverse cast and then uh very close to that patty jenkins shows up and goes yeah usa fighter pilots number one that wasn't tone deaf after the last century of US foreign policy.

That wasn't... And she was promoting a rogue squadron. Just say you played the video game in the 90s. What are you doing? What is this Air Force buying half the budget for the movie? We're not going to talk about this either on the Gripes episode. All right? We're not going to talk about

any of that. So we'll talk about Galaxy either on the gripes episode all right we're not going to talk about any of that so we'll talk about galaxy's edge though so yeah but we're not going to talk about um how every other live action disney movie has to have like an air force approved like person getting out of the cockpit they all have to be sort of partially funded by the cia yeah they all have to be okay lady and the Tramp had a subplot about a CIA agent. Brie Larson, be very careful. That's one of the jets that if it rains, it explodes. That we spent $40 million on. So be very careful with what you do.

I don't know anything about this jet that explodes, but we don't have time for this. We don't have time. My gripe is that we don't have time we hey look we're dealing with an attraction where the where the fbi's got a role in oh fbi agent novak shows up who i assume was a character from the movies and then is not is some guy oh yeah i think he might be original to the ride oh okay oh so we have to maybe pay attention to this because it's if it's original right ip fbi agent novak because the rocks character uh agent hobbs works for the u.s diplomatic service uh and that's different than the organization that mr

nobody kurt russell's character works for in the later movies. Okay, so they drive fast cars, and sometimes they steal things, and they have parties, but then Hobbes the Rock is after them, but then joins them. I'm a little fuzzy. So here's the cliff notes. The first three movies are about underground street racing the fourth movie where uh vin diesel and paul walker came back shifted more to be about

like heist stuff and then it kind of treads the line for the rest of them from like heist to then they get amnesty if they help hobs and then they kind of become secret agent heisters slash street racers. Which people like more. This is where it's really cooking the franchise. Yes. And it kind of lets them do anything. I mean, Vin Diesel does Spider-Man stuff

with old Mustangs. It's crazy. Yeah, that's good. I mean, I'm very excited to watch all of these finally this year um because it sounds like good nonsense this is this one sort of stems the most from uh is it past five is it fast it's the one it's the one from 2013 that's the one that they're sort of pulling from the most? That might be... Is that Furious 7? The last Paul Walker one? Not sure. Is it the first rock one

that they're mainly addressing? Oh, that's 5. Okay. And they're enemies at that point. So yeah, around 6 or 7, they're allies. Okay. Also, no gripes about the fact that we don't know these movies that well yeah sorry i know i think i think the one that this ride is referencing the

most is the one that i saw in theaters and i do not know one thing about it i cannot tell you what i enjoyed it i looked up and smiled and clapped but i don't know any plot i got it it's six because the villain in this ride is uh is the shaw that luke evans plays and the shaw that uh the brother that jason statham plays who avenges his uh brother luke evans is in seven so yes six you're correct okay okay six okay got it but so um yeah keep taking us through hollywood where there's a weird car and uh yeah we gotta go investigate so they called into security and then that call gets overrided by the fbi who tells you that there is an fbi witness uh in the audience of the tram tour that uh off Shaw and Shaw is coming to get because FBI witnesses deserve to enjoy the entertainment capital of Los Angeles as well. They get to enjoy Orlando recreation as well.

The FBI gets overrided by Agent Hobbs of the U.S. Diplomatic Services, and he owns him he calls him like uh sweet cheeks does he call candy ass cookie puss cookie puss which is kind of that's kind of something i kind of like cookie puss yes it's funny when the rock insults people yeah like that was that goes back to his wrestling uh career it's funny yeah insulting people yeah that's yeah so he's doing a little bit of it here he's doing a little bit of it here so they're gonna hide you out in a garage uh uh sullivan's garage which uh i might be in one of the movies in the first movie that's just called torett's. But at this point they've had so many

headquarters and locations. And you are told by Letty, Michelle Rodriguez's character, and Roman, Tyrese's character, that you're gonna hide out. In one of the very good single or two shots.

Shot on an iPhone used for the Tram Tour. Yes, yeah. Okay, all right. So we're halfway through the pre-show? So we're pulling into the giant custom-made building made for this experience. And there's been a big race.

Dom has, of course, won the race. And there's a party going on you know i didn't get that wait where was the oh wait so we're at the end of we're at a party celebrating a race that's why there's all those people okay yeah and we love the party people don't we folks they seem very natural this is my favorite part of the whole thing. These non-union background actors. Well, just the effects of the people partying in like a little group. Yeah. And then it's like repeated.

But I like the technology because it kind of makes it look, if you squint, it makes it look like there's actually humans kind of in the distance partying in a little group mike i might have to call this a gripe because i what i wrote down is that this is maybe my least favorite theme park scene ever the club scene before the dancing at the yes that i called it the the shoved in the center dance party all these people like oddly crouched together and being very still let's dance but not in such a way that our feet go anywhere that we leave this it's like they're they're in like an invisible cage like they'll trip a wire if they go slightly to the left to the right um and then they get as soon as you see it what's that you're not amazed by mr pepper's ghost i mean i sure I guess I always like that. And I like the, hey, it's one of those musion holograms. You know, a musion hologram?

I kept seeing that on theme park review sites as if I knew what that was. Like, what does achieve a musion hologram? I don't know what a musion is. That's a weird word. I don't like the word. Musion. It seems like something that would be wrong with your body. If, I don't know, parts of your genitals are fusing together that shouldn't be, you're

experiencing genital musion. Do you know what is it? Genital musion? No, no. What is the musion? Like, illusion? It might be a company name. I don't know.

Oh, okay. As opposed to a style. I don't know as opposed to a style i don't hear fusion hologram it's not the holograms owned by that that uh evil guy alky um yeah uh fusion i the company it's called fusion it's a system it's called fusion eyeliner confusingly so it sounds like a makeup but it's not that um it's uh it is a uh pepper's ghost type thing it's invented by a guy named uve moss m-a-a-s-s um and i'd have to look further into it i guess it's been a law around for a while just a weird word what is it what does it mean what is musion and you just googled it and it doesn't have a definition doesn't explain no it's just musion holograms

are it's not somebody's last name i don't think i don't know what where this word comes from huh jason do you do you agree with me this is the best part or do you just are you in the middle um i i kind of like no i like it a few minutes later i think the best part you mean when they show up and stuff when everyone comes in like because i like that too i you know what i think it is i'm really trying to analyze here what it is yeah i like okay i like the effect a lot i think the effect actually is pretty cool i think it's reminding me of when i get to go like once or every other year to a douchey vegas pool party or something i think oh yeah which i don't like i like vegas and i don't yeah i don't i don't know why you do she vegas pool party loud

loud like just the rattling your heart bass loudness uh i love that so maybe that's what this is maybe i'm starting to sort of feel like i'm at this big uh weird party i think but i i like it in the movies i like when they have the crazy parties in the movies like when they go to uh he unfortunately named uh race wars in the first one which is in the first in the first movie there's a big street racing event in like coachella palm springs area uh and it's called race wars i don't know if that's supposed to be a joke or just no one thought to like do another read pass on the racing wars they're fixed they're much better but yeah but um i like i like the parties in the movies but in just them dancing in this i feel like there's just so many conceits i'm just a little tired from all the things that's like okay fbi witness shaw's after them

um uh the diplomat the rock is here um the crew the family is going to protect us that that we don't know until a second later they said we would be safe in this garage and then uh tyrese comes in with a bunch of ladies the fbi agent pulls a gun on him you know i don't want to just to say a little more about this dance party what i don't like about it because i don't object to the i don't like i'll a dance party is fine with me i think that the problem is that you know if for anybody who deals with with video or anything like dull issue of title safe that you have to in a frame uh put everything a little bit in the center so that in case the tv cuts something off that it it'll all be, you'll see everything.

No words will get cut off in the, so you keep it in the title safe area. This is a title safe dance party. Everybody, you enter a room and then there's like margins. It's like a P, like a word document. There's margins in this dance party. And I understand they have to do that to pull the effect off, but it never, this would never bother me when you're looking at just do that to pull the effect off but it never this would never bother me when you're looking at just ray and rise of the resistance because

it's only one person when you're trying to get 50 people into one room and now you have to just like and don't do not shimmy to the left or the right whatsoever or you'll get cut off it's unfortunately the only part of the ride they made title safe because depending on where you sit you might miss a significant portion of the action no no joke i didn't know until reviewing a youtube channel that showed the right side of the ride and the left side of the ride i didn't know if the rock was in the ride ride part because i've never it some people some of the body count of the ride some of the murdering okay I think you guys are expecting too much

of this new technology of the Steve Mnuchin Steve Mnuchin's hologram company it did cost $600 too and that's a great topical joke. Mnuchin produced Fistfight

and he produced Musion Holograms. That's right, right? He's the movie producer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The next gen I think will be able to get as many dancers as possible in a warehouse. As many ghost dancers. I think that's coming.

Okay, okay. So, yeah. Yeah, a little more. Just don't make it so obvious. Don't. Right. I can see the lines. I can see the margins.

Anyway. Right. Yes. So, they all are. You land, and then they're all asked to leave as soon as you've seen them for the first time. And then Tyrese comes in and then an FBI

agent who's like I guess I should have included in that he's not one of the leads of this film franchise because he doesn't really carry it as much as they do I'm remembering now that when you said they got dismissed my memory is that we go through like like we see like here okay i'm unlocking

a memory now here sorry to go back but the first time i ever went on this it broke down i believe five times in a row we did not get to go we it kept turning around and going back in so i was in the dancing area stuck for a long long time like like minutes and minutes and minutes and then we'd go in the ride would break and then we'd have to go out and turn around and try to do it again so i think i've sort of been like i have a comfort with the part the dancing part and that's also why i think it lasts longer than what you just explained that it was a quick thing and they're dismissed the okay and maybe you like it in a stockholm syndrome when yes you were trapped so you had no choice but to start to like

this odd hologram dance party. Yes, that's wow, I was with a friend of the show, Andrew Grissom, I believe. How does he feel about it? I haven't asked him recently. I think we both were like, okay. Yep. Alright.

Agent Novak, original theme park IV, Agent Novak. Agent Novak, original theme park IV, Agent Novak. Agent Novak, he pulls a gun on Tyrese. Tyrese says, we don't work for you. And that's when an elevator is activated and the big hero shot, here comes Dominic Toretto and Letty on a big, like, Mack truck.

And he says, we don't work for no one. Now, this I like, that there's the moving physical set piece. Yes. And then the holograms are on it. I will give it up to that. That is very cool. I like this, too. And I believe Agent Novak says something about,

I'm the one holding the gun and that's when the rock comes in and says yeah but mine's a whole lot bigger because he has like a giant assault rifle and uh i have been on this experience before and i've seen people cheer like when these characters show up yeah well he always gets one yeah that's the idea of the rock gets applause i i'll say and i'll after we finish hollywood i will explain my experience as the only one who wrote it in orlando um uh people do like to see famous people in their rides playing the characters they know and love so uh, I do understand that part. I do understand people like, yeah, it's the whole gang.

The whole family is here. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, it makes sense to me. Yeah. Yeah. What doesn't make sense is why the rock comes in with a big gun. By the way, a lot of guns in that.

This is maybe the gunniest attraction of the 2010s like there's holdovers of attractions full of guns where you can't do anything about it but like kind of weird that especially in 2018 like do a big gun show it's like

there's probably the same amount on like Transformers but since like the guns are in a robot's arm it doesn't read exactly like thaters but since like the guns are in a robot's arm it doesn't read exactly like that and it's like yeah so if a robot has a gun arm it doesn't read as bad as actual firearms

yeah yeah that makes sense but anyway he like yeah his entrance is cool and he gets applause and lifts a big thing and makes a cookie puss joke but then everybody just kind of like files out of the room nobody runs then everybody just kind of like files out of the room. Nobody runs. It's just kind of like, alright, well, we're gonna load up.

Stroll, stroll, stroll. It's like everybody taking a lunch break. Okay, because you need to establish another premise that you have to turn off your phones, you can't take pictures because then Shaw can track your location and he'll he'll

show up and kill everyone and it should be noted no one fires a gun these characters don't fire a gun shaw has a flamethrower i guess a helicopter has a gun but it's sort of like in batman we're like well batman's not pulling out a handgun but the batmobile has a gun and there's a giant gun that just moves through people yeah adeline gun uh so yeah it it it there's the conceit that they can track you and then of course tyrese takes a phone call and it's like and and then vin diesel very casually vin diesel or michelle right what someone goes well well, Sean knows where we are now. Kind of tosses it off. The stakes are nobody's concern.

Just, yep. It feels like this attraction should have been a show. And it should have been just like, stopped here, had all your favorites, and they just do a little show for you, and you drive out. We don't need the action-adventure part.

We just like hanging out with our friends for a little while here. Yeah. Which I like this part. I like this part a little more, maybe, than the, like, despite my problems with the title-safe dance party, I, like, all right, well, this will, so so this is kind of fun and they're all a little funny and so the finale of this is gonna blow me away but then and then you go in and if if it's my experience half the time it works half the time all of a sudden it's just like the screens are what you wheel into like a room with just white screens on the side and drive right out uh but yeah if it's working if it's working you're transported to a parking garage

underground baby uh that is jurassic parking it has the you can see the t-rex on it you're in a universal parking that's very funny i did not ever catch yeah i didn't catch that either that's great yeah all right now i like it more um and and immediately so my i remember my reaction is immediately when we're on this and i was like oh it's exactly it's just kong again and which is a worse version of transformers i remember like my initial feeling of like kind of disappointment because i was hoping they had used some like crazy new technology i knew it wasn't going to be a crazy roller coaster or anything but i just remember being like okay all right all right got it which if you haven't

done any of this you're sort of sandwiched between two giant screens uh that are very tall that feel oddly close to the trend it's an interesting effect but it's it's it's tough because it is just obstructed it's just just a really obstructed view uh which like works a little better in king kong because you feel like we're in the jungle and it's sort of chaos and what's coming through those trees oh it's it's kong like it feels like you're on a safari like like the inability to see is a little more and you forgive it maybe but here this feels a little more like you're supposed to understand and comprehend everything right because you're moving too i mean like the whole you know you're trying to go fast you're moving fast and fast and furious but like there's the sections where like you're

kind of tangled in trees or vines on king kong you're kind of stationary you're moving a little bit and like it's teasing that you're gonna fall or whatever but in general like if you're just stationary and like stuff is happening on the screens around you you can take that all in more versus the tram, which is not like a Transformers vehicle that reacts so well with screens or anything. The tram was not built for this. The tram is an old tram. It doesn't have any cool effects to really give you the illusion that you have any G-Force going on. So that's why I feel like it just doesn't work as well. Well, andong is a simpler

story the short you know three minutes it and they they do a good job of splitting like well here's half of kong fighting a dinosaur on this side of the screen and then he literally climbs over the top and then he fights more on this side of the screen. But Dominic Toretto is not like, if you sit on the one end of the tour, you get a lot of The Rock. If you sit on the other side, you get a lot of Dom and Letty. And if you break it down even further,

the story is that they hook up two trucks without trailers on them, and you're towed really fast. Like AAA tows you. And it's a towing.'s the same sorry i stepped all over that that's funny uh yeah it's like this and it's what i was saying before it's like the same effect as minions transformers spider-man all of those rides there's a hook that gets attached to your vehicle to make you go only the difference is you difference is you're on a much less exciting vehicle.

It's an old tram and it just doesn't react at all, a little bit to the movements. So it's like, okay. And then you're talking about seeing the characters. It's like Kong is giant. At the very least, you get to see a giant monkey head on the screen. You're like, I think that's Dom. i think that's the rock i guess and then i'm on a less good version of the universal dragging you through a screen trick well and someone points out because at one point

that should be very cool dom jumps out of his car and on to the bottom of a helicopter and at a lot of that point he is the same size as the helicopter because the way they filmed this they had the actors in front of green screens and then everything is CGI and the CGI sets the CGI city

streets everything is aging was it aging immediately in 2015 it started the clock started ticking on that PlayStation 4 quality yeah is there I have not seen all the Fast and Furious movies is there one where Vin Diesel grows giant

no that would be cool is that on the table though to the I asked the producers of Fast and Furious is Vin Diesel growing giant possible mid jump he jumps out of a car and by the end of the jump he's 70 feet tall fantastic yeah he'll be like a ant-man or something like just let's let's do it why not i'm gonna see if i can get a good loop just like a gif of the of him jumping onto that helicopter it's so weird the proportions

change like crazy the frame rate I don't know is the frame rate of this 12 frames a second or 700 frames a second it's something weird either way it goes back and forth between those two constantly shifting there's

a lot all this is happening and like different cars letty runs uh luke evans's car off like the road like off a freeway the rock runs a car off the road with his big like assault vehicle car yeah a lot's happening it's okay it's not a bad idea for an experience. No. It's just like this is not... It's probably very hard to render all this stuff, because there's a lot of angle tricks with the screen,

and depending on which part of the car you're at, things look bigger and smaller. It's just there's so many variables for that experience. If it was just there's so many variables for that experience like if it was just a vr thing like with the basically the same premise in the same like track or whatever i think it's probably much cooler right i bet this looks like good on somebody's headset like somebody there must have been a test of this where you sat and did and were like holy shit and then just once it moved to that tram right and then you

stretched out and like the person in the front of the tram is like trying peering back trying to see it and it's doesn't really hold up as well um so yeah i mean like i did mario kart vr in japan which i think they closed that place right by the time you were there, Scott? Yeah, I didn't get to do it. Oh, they've since... Yeah, they were sued, that company. Oh. But Mario Kart is not as fast as Fast and Furious, but the Mario Kart VR was amazing. It was so good. Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, I can imagine... I'm sorry, not the VR. The Mario Kart Go Kart on the streets of Tokyo were sued by the Nintendo people, I believe. Oh, yes, yes. There was a... And I didn't do it, but we saw them. We saw them when we were in the video game district,

essentially, like the people on tours with Mario and Luigi hats driving go-karts around the city streets, which I was like, that's cool, but also seems dangerous. Seems like not a good idea. No interest in my... Yeah, yeah no i didn't really want to do it although i guess maybe to review it i should have but yeah oh well uh we'll

review it when it opens in hollywood um the yeah i don't you know even as you're you talked about the more simple story of kong like okay take all of this backstory out all of this stuff about okay but now shaw heard the cell phone and the like once the ride part begins the big screens what is happening are they're transporting us to keep the witness safe is that it yeah and they they take out shaw and the bad guys and then i think a bridge is out and he yells hit the nitrous and then he screams ride or die which i believe is said in the movies pretty regularly right i think not as often as family. But ride or die. And that's kind of cool. But I'm going to jump ahead a little and mention before I

forget, the ride ends with you landing in a warehouse full of shipping containers. That's the exciting end. A CGI warehouse. Everything is CGI because they did the actors in front of green screens. And then they did it all CGI.

And everyone was just like, what? What is this? It's an abrupt ending, too. Like, this part, the big screen part is only 90 seconds. So you're kind of like, what? Already? Yeah, it feels very short. Do we know how long the Kong part of the Tramp Tour is?

It feels longer but it might not be that much longer yeah um but yeah it is disorienting for sure and it's all of a sudden yeah you're in a cgi warehouse you're also getting i don't know where jason where would you plus it up where would you prefer they land i don't i i think just the premise in general like it really it toes the line between like this is a movie making experience and like these characters are real you live in this world now Dominic Toretto is real and if you keep it simple you can get away with that like Universal got away with like Ghostbusters are real once you enter this building in Florida you know yeah well okay i have a i have a plus up it's they still land in the cgi uh warehouse but then two of the cars start dancing dancing to gasolina have the party

have the party going on in the warehouse yeah like at the end of minion mayhem there's a part there's a big adoption party well there's yes here's a whole thing that not to i don't want to jump on what you're going to say about orlando but they push this even harder in orlando the plot is more there's a party to get to oh but wait a bunch of stuff happening in shaw and all this um so weird that the whole thing is about okay so there's a party and you're en route to the party. And when you see the party bus, it's going to be great because of the party lights.

So get ready. And then soon you'll be at the party. Oh, a distraction. It's going to take us away from the party. And then where's the party? There's no party. We forget about the party entire. Is the party, the gift shop?

There's no payoff. The gift shop is a supply store. No, there is no party. And no the gift shop is a supply store no there is no party and the fireworks factory all over again we're gonna get to toretto's party um is the party the dancing at the beginning was that do we zoom past the party and then there isn't a another party at the end oh that must be it right that was that i think that's the party all right this is yeah that must be the party this is a good transition into orlando uh because orlando takes place in the san francisco section of the park never mind the fact that the cgi streets in the ride are clearly the streets

of los angeles uh ignore that town la yeah i'm so confusing uh so this in in florida this ride replaced disaster uh major motion picture ride dot dot dot starring you and of course beetlejuice's graveyard review so in this house we are we already have a grudge going against this ride um and so uh you go in through the streets of san francisco and there's a lot of cars there's like cool cars everywhere and you go in through like a big brick building big brick front there's cool cars and then you're in a garage a lot of garage queues um look the cars are cool but um these queues are just empty rooms they put barrels and tires in and some cars like it's yes and the building itself is just a brick building with a fence yes like the one of the worst facades of an attraction and not like rise of the resistance

they do in such a way where it's like there's no big here's here's the rise of the resistance it's like oh is this a ride and you know like you're you're subtly navigating through this little forest thing you could do that or you could just have just a building i it's god well i think they wanted to keep the facade that looks like the chocolate company i always say the wrong pronunciation of uh from delhi san francisco yeah ghirardelli oh it's that building it used to be a ghirardelli yeah it's kind of that it's just a replica of like the headquarters in san francisco the the front of it um and and so i guess the pre-show money went to like the q money went to the the two

different pre-show rooms uh where where you are met by pat and jamie uh gender neutral team members who are uh help the crew and uh i i heard a rumor that uh these team members are pulled not from the entertainment division where actors are staffed but from the operations division and that would explain why they are often stiff even by theme park standards yeah so it's interesting to me though that

they were like well we got to make some changes you know because it's gonna be bigger and they were like more pre-shows more pre-shows uh we got pat and jamie who talked to ludacris and jordana brewster and and and then clearly they didn't want to just reuse the footage of uh they didn't vin diesel and the rock show up as like waveform phone calls but uh ludicrous android adabrooster are like shot as it i keep saying like i'm shot on an iphone but they're shot like they are facetiming in and they deliver the lines with the brakes for the cast member to say like what should we do next tej okay pat listen i got party buses coming uh because that's a big difference from orlando the vehicle is not a tram it's not the tram it's a party bus now this i love

this is my only thing i love is that it's a party bus there's no other ride you're in that's a party bus before like so i like this idea i i i'm pleased with this it's kind of it's kind of good it shows up flashing colors kind of neon yes that's good i like the view yeah you like the party bus and and we like the party but we like we like the party bus we like the party bus party bus uh we did not again scott and i did not go on this yeah jason is the only one who went on it it was a pack date universal we all had things to do and we both made the decision doesn't seem like it's worth it does it well i had i only had to get back to cabana bay uh scott did you have yeah i was staying on property at that point uh so i literally this was the last thing i did before flying back to los angeles i did this ride i ate up a solid

pizza at that pizza place in city walk then i went back to the hotel and got my luggage and then gotten a lift and i was i was just like shaking my head eating that pizza i was like the last ride i did was super char oh man what was i thinking uh yeah so that was a more the lift ride was probably a better ride more immersive more interactive yeah yeah uh so jason has the first hand experience but from the video, I guess the party bus is good. Yeah. I like it. And probably you can see more than the tram because you don't have another thing right in front of you.

Right. It's a little more tooled for the experience. Well, and you know what is much clearer in Orlando? Just how many times in the Orlando experience they say family. Because they say family a lot in these movies but the movies are two hours long and so it's kind of distributed the Orlando experience is like under 10 minutes so when you hear like our family will protect you you're part of our family now and don't worry our whole family's got looking out for your back you know yeah it's uh it almost seems like they're making fun of you

they're all yeah they're saying like we're you think we're family fuck you yeah on on that note about the repetition of family I have a clip from the opening of this attraction which had pretty high penetration of

the cast it is a remarkable amount of of the cast ludacris is there and uh and tyrese and uh i think you're dan and brewster and then but the it all builds up to a stunt car arrival of of vin diesel um who then once he gets on stage uh just what I don't have is the first part. You know, there's the theme parky thing of hang. I can't hear you. And then, you know, saying it. So this is he's already said this once.

And then this is his second escalated time to really pump up the crowd. Who wants to be a part of the Paz and Gurren family? Who wants to be part of the Paz and Gurren family! Who wants to be part of the Paz and Gurren family! Pretty addictive, honestly. That's been rattling

in my head for 24 hours. I think he also yells, I wrote this quote down, then he yells, who wants to see this ride? I don't know why he chose to deliver those lines like Eric Andre. That's what it's like. I knew it was like something comedy. Absolute God, yes.

Let me in. He's earnestly doing Eric Andre insanity, and he doesn't realize it's insane. Wow. I was like, what is that voice? It was driving me crazy. Also, I'm staring at the thumbnail of this, and it's the cool chain link fence aesthetic in the warehouse,

and so this just signs around, and one of the signs says, thank you for not littering. Cool. Hey, fam, don't't litter family doesn't do that family does not do that the opening of the hollywood one had like a car doing a stunt like jumping through a you know a big sign uh i also saw some b-roll of like the hollywood opening where you got to see a real hollywood experience of like a famous person being escorted away by like a well-dressed handler saying thanks guys to the assembled crowd and if you've ever been to a premiere or a real hollywood event you've seen a famous person being surrounded by a reasonably nicely dressed minder going, thanks, guys.

That's we're out of time. We got to go. Yes. Folks are getting you away from like some red carpet. Got like, what's up? I'm movie junkie. So you have 45 seconds. Wrap it up.

All right. All right. Movie junkie. Come on. Stop this now. That's it. that's it all right you said um the entire time you were just nervous to meet him you said nothing in the 45 seconds sign the first 10 8 by 10s we're not going to do another 10 okay let's keep moving all right moving along thanks guys thanks thanks guys thanks guys is thanks guys is I feel like it applies to a lot of different Hollywood job thanks guys

switch it up agents thanks folks we're not we're cutting back on guys come on I'm trying to think when we were at the Jurassic Jurassic World premiere for the ride did we hear any thanks guys we would have if we tried to talk to anyone

I guess you're right we didn't talk to anybody have if we tried to talk to anyone yeah I guess you're right we didn't talk to anybody maybe when we tried to have too many drinks somebody was like hey thanks guys I think when we tried to go upstairs they're like sorry guys wrong land sorry you gotta say you gotta eat down here

there was a VIP we're all VIPs right we're sorry. Yeah. I think we hear sorry guys a lot more. Thank you. Sorry. We have nothing to be thanked for. So what's your podcast about? Well, it's about theme parks.

Sorry, guys. You three are not family. You're trash. Get the hell out. Sorry, guys. Sorry, guys. Sorry, guys. We're going to try to get more thank yous this year than sorry's there's another thing about Jason

about when Ludacris calls in because then in the ride maybe something we haven't said is that the tram tour there's monitors on the trams for all the myriad of other things you do on the tram so they have to play clips of the characters like they do some expositional stuff and then when the ride's over they cut to you

know vin and the rock and they all say hey thanks for being part of our crew so that same thing happens on the party bus but so it's a mix of stuff that they shot for the tour one where yes like okay so it shifts between when the ride's over and the buster rhyme song is playing then you get ludacris who is being filmed on a pre-zoom you know there's like scan lines and either like an interface but then you've got uh you know vin and tyrese and the rock all leaning up against like a are they just in a golf cart what are they just like on a studio lot it's just like junket style yeah who's filming out on the back lot yeah they have a tripod all right so hobbs is talking to you with like a junket crew he brought but ludicrous is talking to you via

like a secret uh pirate radio pirate video channel he's the computer guy and the crew he's the computer guy that's how they communicate it he hacks that's yeah i see yeah um is there a making of to know exactly

who was in the room where even in the pre show and this and like when it was shot and was this shot a year later or was it all shot when Hollywood happened? Or I'm always I'm always curious about that type of thing. It apparently was Orlando and Hollywood were working on it together like it was simultaneously being uh worked on did anyone see uh there was somebody had pointed out that the rock uh the rock endorsed uh biden and kamala harris which uh i think is his first political thing he's done since showing up at like the republican national convention in 2000 oh boy really uh uh but whatever okay all right he's uh um but he But he endorsed Biden and Harris. And then somebody pointed out, hey, did you notice he's after the other i assume because same shirt same location and he endorsed uh the president uh elect joe biden and then he also said that mr ken shamrock

was worthy of his hall of fame induction uh what's this one for uh biden harris shamrock taramata bang bang bang bang bang yeah it knocks them all out. So I wonder if one of these things was like Rock just had to knock this out. I gotta knock out a pre-show thing for Universal. Then he does some sort of political thing. Then he cuts a promo

on Roman Reigns or something. I mean, to some extent, but of course they did all have to swing around on rods and sandbags.'s one thing as for as much as you make fun of how vin diesel looks on the digital helicopter where he grows 70 feet when you see him do the stunts in a green screen void it's really impressive like this is true this is a real stunt manny stunt and vin diesel's doing it uh like why does the behind the scenes look so much better? Because there's no bizarre, like, spatial shift going on.

And I can see it. I mean, it's not like, it's not blurry and I'm not like peering over somebody's head. Watch the behind the scenes. The behind the scenes is better than the ride. It's cool. Yeah. And I think in the movies too, like, they certainly use CGI. I mean, the 2000s one, it's very funny

when they show the sequence of hit the nitrate and they go through the engine. It's perfect. The logo in the original one, it's amazing. You can just see the evolution of filmmaking. I think the second one is actually pretty bad with rough CGI,

but I feel like Tokyo Drift drift is mostly practical stuff and there are a lot of practical stunts in this movie that's why the cgi-ness is so odd yeah yeah which this like i've got a kind of a bigger point here about the weird like what what makes this not work and why this is like you know it's certainly in the running for worst screen ride. And for as much as we went on and on about the Fallon ride, that almost felt like more in its construction than in the premise and then in the like technical side of it. And I think the technical side is just rough on this ride. And I was just thinking about how about how okay so it does pay off here's all your favorite characters and you're going on an adventure with them but in the back

to the future ride you aren't following marty and doc around it's not about marty on a hoverboard and you're following him and star tours is not about like chasing a flying darth vader around like more of them show up in the characters show up a little bit in the adventures continued in the new one but like when do characters show up as holograms mainly or in back to the future they're on little screens and which they do that conceit on this thing. Like, that's, I don't know, like, when you're trying to fit your characters into things, it's been done so much more successfully as, here's a little console camera,

they're popping up on the second monitor in some side way, rather than, like, here is VIN, and the rest of it has to be digital, so it has to be a real digital-looking VIN. I think that's sort of the problem and you can tell why i think there was some pre version of back to the future where it was like docks in a flying machine like some big umbrella like old-timey pre-wright brothers machine i think it looked really silly and they bailed on it and you're just doing a DeLorean and I think Fast and Furious shows you why

yeah it's I think it only works with the characters in like a type of ride like this on the Simpsons because they're already cartoons yes yeah like that's the only because other than that if you're going if you're on some sort of ride that's supposed to be very fast

or obviously Transformers because they're giant and it's totally a different type of screen ride. But yeah, if it's humans, it's like you're not really getting much whizzing by tiny versions of the characters you like. That's what, when I was trying to, when Erin was trying to remember if she'd been on this or not, she was like, is that the one where you go by all the tiny people? That's how it existed in her brain and i don't blame her when you think about king kong which we're not huge fans of but we all agree it works better you've got weird scale issues like you're saying with optimus prime like if if the scale ever looks weird it's because you're looking at fantastic beings and you don't know how tall they're supposed to look but I do know that the Vin Diesel is short maybe he's short

I know that Vin Diesel is somewhere between five and seven feet so when suddenly he's 70 I know that that's not right yeah yeah it's yeah it just doesn't I mean I there's probably like using the Spider-Man Transformers system, there's a version where

the humans look better. Because Spider-Man is obviously the proportions are crazy, but it's all pretty consistent feeling, whether it is or not. It just feels consistent. In my mind, the characters are all big, but your brain automatically gets used to like, okay, all the human characters are this big, and it's something you don't even really think about like he jumps on the hood my memory is like now that i'm thinking about it is like spider-man is seven feet tall and like seven feet wide but it doesn't it doesn't it's not something yeah

you're thinking about because i think because the scale stays pretty similar the whole time yeah yeah but yeah you that's that you get face to face with the characters which is of course what i like with transformers and stuff is you get little personal moments and then you get action adventure things here it's just like you're trying to figure out what's going on if dom were to like grab the the rungs of the tram tour of the ride vehicle and like lean into the car and like be like hey you and then he points and he's like you're my family and then he goes and does it that's a little bit more what what i think people would want they get a little more face time with vin with dom grabbed the sides of the tram and rattled them and screamed in your face who wants to be part of fancy first bravura

yeah that exactly i think then you're at least you can't see the action if it's a little blurry you at least go well it was fun when he rattled our rattled the vehicle uh i i have one more thing from florida that i i went back into my notes from over a year ago because i was like wait there was something in the line that struck me as like oh that's not great uh and it's right before you get to the room where you get on the party bus inevitably there's like a you know a curvy ramp up to get to the room. And it's kind of unadorned. Maybe there's one or two colored lights. But they were blasting a song.

And I was like, what is that song? I cannot place it. And then I immediately knew what it was because they said the name. And it went, turned down for what? And I was like, oh, my God. And that's kind of a thing you know i went back and looked at some of the soundtracks for these movies and there's some forgotten songs on there but i was just like this is how you're building up people getting psyched like a 2009 song on this like

giant expensive ride it's turned down for what in an empty hallway like that's kind of grim you're more of a yeah we know you don't like Turn Down for What, but you love Opa Gangnam Style still. Well, I do like that. And the Harlem Shake, I wish they had done the Harlem Shake, because then we all would have just flopped around in the hallway. I like Turn Down for What belongs in the category of those songs, I feel. Yeah, I think it does.

I thought it was just like i had not thought about turned out for what in a while and uh it was kind of a big uh a big like right before you get on the ride uh moment has anyone done a uh it's been a couple days now has anybody done like using the c-span cameras, like the stationary cameras in the Congress building? Has anybody done the Harlem Shake where it's the footage of just the senators like about to vote and then there's the jump cut and there's a bunch of people in fur coats vaping? Like you do the jump cut to the post-invasion. Has anyone done that? No. Maybe it's happened. That might that might be it's a future for us it might this might be storming twitter as we speak it's very possible so we'll

see uh we'll see someone's everything's trying to get it someone's trying to get an invite to a TikTok house. The drip. Oh, my dream. Were those the TikTok houses? Were they having the parties on New Year's? Yeah, Drip Crib and Hype House. Oh, I love Drip Crib. I heard about Drip Crib, and I'm very excited about Drip Crib.

I don't like what they were up to, but I like the concept of the Drip Crib. Sure. But anyway. Could we rename the rename the you know because everybody you guys like varying degrees of little splashiness in the in the splash mountain logs could you re do you want to think of those instead as drip cribs they're not logs they're drip cribs i like the idea of that yeah i think that yeah you could certainly okay wait wait wait the real hack at Disneyland or Disney World

is you go on Splash Mountain alone you see if you can get the log alone somehow and then you lie down like a baby in the log it's going to be hard because of the seats but it'll be like you can kind of lie on the side on the Disneyland one because the seats are sort of in the middle and you lie down on it and then you get the splashes all over your

body and that's called a drip crib that's a drip crib if you yeah if you duck under the whole thing do the entire thing curled in a fetal position yes exactly and you bring your little blankie and then it gets soaked um so yeah jason i mean jason will love that i i'm not a huge fan of getting soaked but jason loves all aspects of his body getting soaked on a rise sleep like a baby look if you if you toss water on me when i'm sleeping i'm going i'm that's how you activate the deep rim that's how you lose the dreaming starts. Yeah, the REM gets activated when Jason gets soaked. Yeah.

Nice, soaky sleep. Nice, soaky sleep. Nice, wet sleep for Jason. Turn him over, turn him over, he's gonna drown again. Turn him over. He's having a nightmare about stiff brownies. No, I wish I would put some more water

in that brownie that are no they need a stiff brownie needs a trip a trip to the drip crib drip yeah um we should also mention this ride was closed from august 8th to november 21st 2020 when universal scaled back operations due to low crowds from the coronavirus. This was their Stitch's Great Escape? This is the one where we don't have to bother to run? They did this, Barney,

Poseidon's Fury, and I think there was a fourth. Wow. This is already on their shit list and like we said it seems like this has to have been this was the point where you know i think theme park nerds were saying five years before this too many screens this was the point i think where more casual people were starting to say all right it actually was what some of them were starting to say was my eyes hurt i can't go on any more of these screen rides um and now we're getting nintendo which is not uh that there's yeah there's elements but yeah no there's practical stuff it is funny the difference between that the two different ways you would say it depending on what

kind of a person you are that mean the same thing to an universal employee which is we come up to universal employee and go have you noticed that the same screen tricks are being utilized in jimmy fallon simpsons uh minion mayhem and then the other person is going like yeah it's blurry it's blurry and i didn't like it and that really conveys the same thing it's the same thing they both land on they both landys the same thing. It's the same thing. They both land on, they both land at the same conclusion of like, ah, we fucked up with this fast and furious ride. Yeah.

Yeah. Same deal. The point is the chorus grew. I think you, maybe you needed it to get this bad for things to change. Um, yeah, but I got a cute picture with wax Vin Diesel that you can really put your hands on in that gift shop.

They encourage you to touch the Wax Vin Diesel, yes. Yeah, and also I encourage strangers like, hey man, hey, could you hold my phone? Could you take a picture? My friends have all fleed the state, but he told me I was part of his family and i really want a picture to remember that so i want to commemorate this sweet moment yeah um you need pictures with your family yeah yeah um i realize also like family do they it's like very all like an olive

garden thing with the family when you're here your family is the whole olive garden like they keep pushing that and it's the same thing with fast and furious when you hear your family has he done a olive garden commercial that's the well they're gonna they can't be subtle about getting people back into these restaurants when it's safe to do so they're going to have to yell about it and who better to yell than vin diesel than vin diesel that that brings up a good point because i was not certain like the character dominic toretto i googled what ethnicity is dominic toretto because he's he he's always talking about family he's always barbecuing forever he like the the it's in la but uh and they're always drinking Coronas. Dom always is giving people Corona.

And I was just like, I have no, I am not, and it seems like it wasn't until there's a line in the Fate of the Furious, the most recent one. Dom says, the Toretto's go back to Cuba. Like our family comes from Cuba. And everyone was like, oh, okay. Does everyone in the movie go, oh, okay. Really?

It seemed like on message boards, people were going like, oh, we thought it was Dominican or Puerto Rican. Okay. I also saw something that said, Vin Diesel is unsure of what Etheseus' father was. Never knew his father. Didn't know his father.

I was hoping you were going to say Olive Garden Italian. You'd think I thought Italian at first because I'm like god damn this guy's talking about family a lot. So he didn't know his family? He didn't grow up with a full family? He knew his mother.

I mean, he knew his mother, but I think it is in question, some of the lineage. Well, I want to post that you have, obviously you have that you and Vin wax figure framed at your desk, I assume, Jason? Yeah.

Okay, so yeah, we'll post post that you'll get to see that um and uh that's the best thing that's that came out of this ride i feel like yeah i think so because it's the memories you you keep and we got a koozie we got a koozie for uh our fan who went to the chicago show and the orlando show we gave him a koozie. Oh yeah. Um, so that's good too. So those are the two things. It inspired great koozies.

Great koozies. Uh, look, I, we've heard a lot. I don't know if Epic Universe is happening. I think it probably isn't. That would be my guess.

That's the, what I've heard, but there's nothing official, but I don't know why Fast and Furious wouldn't be on their plans to do it right. Yeah. You know? Like, come on. You build a restaurant.

You build, like, the Toretto house where they're always barbecuing, and, like, that's a restaurant? Of course. Yeah. Like, a kind of fun backyard barbecue type restaurant like this could have could easily slot into one of the epic universe which is if you don't know the third universal park that they were going to build before the pandemic uh and but get rid of you could get rid of uh be fantastic beasts or how to train your dragon land put in a fast and furious land do the barbecue restaurant do that cars land big expansive ride where like a robot vin diesel comes up to your car and says

something nice which is nice to you and then you go on a little race and then you can put on i don't know another there's got to be a different maybe a Hobbs and Shaw spin-off ride of some kind you know I think movies are too popular not to do something else that's my opinion it'd be cheaper for them they just got to buy like a mile of chain link

fence that I guess is the aesthetic so yeah whatever look nothing's that I guess is the aesthetic um so yeah uh whatever look they uh nothing's happening for a while so I guess nothing's gonna get built so nothing's happening I guess it's not too big of a problem but can't have too much

a little Hobbs and Shaw goes a long way that movie made half as much as the uh Fast and Furious one did so that was less well that was less family that was like hanging out with your two uncles that didn't have the whole family because uh johnson and diesel don't get along so they're right they're replacing uh johnson with cedar as dom's younger brother jacob that was revealed in the trail a lot of stuff revealed in the fast nine trailer a lot of cool reveals so

so maybe you say it made half it still made 700 million dollars yeah like 750 as opposed to 1.5 1.5 billion right yeah just wanted to make sure well either way maybe even more exciting than this ride or in a new land i i mean maybe the real detraction would be some you know um ancestry experience some where you like you you give you really do give a blood sample to somebody in the warehouse and then you get and then you wait around for 10 minutes for results kind of nervously and then it comes back and like well it came back guess what your family oh every time it comes back that way yes no matter what they still like run you through the motions and maybe they kind of like they come out like whoever it is walks out just like i don't know not looking good

you started asking like so jordana brewster and Vin Diesel are brother and sister? Like, I don't, I can't, they don't look super like, hey, family. Don't worry about it, it's family. Salud. What if it's like the exact same two pre-show rooms on Avatar Flight of Passage and they're like scanning you to see if you're family? Move around a little bit. Move around some more. All right, you're family

guess what you're all family Rocket Raccoon should tell us we're family Rocket Raccoon should tell us we're family and Guardians you love people saying he's proud of you

every ride you should be told you love this person and he's proud of you i yeah well we every ride should you should be told that you're part of the family right and then we our family should play on one of the ride sequences beautiful well we fixed not only this ride but every ride every ride um and i you know this should be where i just end it normally with the phrase that I say. But I think in this case, we got to end it the way that the ride ends it. And okay, so guys, I guess with that, you survived Podcast The Ride. And let me tell you, you were lucky that you were riding with this crew. Because the bigger the family, the stronger it is.

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