Podcast: The Ride - Grinchmas

Episode Date: December 21, 2018

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FOREVER! DOG! WARNING! The following podcast is an appalling pile of putrid anthem that would sicken a stinkbug with syphilis! It's Grinchmas podcast, The Ride, hosted by three wise men. Wise mainly in their ability to navigate Disneyland children's menus. I'm Scott Gairdner, joined by Mike Carlson and Jason Sheridan.

Yes, hello. Hi. We speak from experience. You guys speak from experience. We all just went together, a rare all of us, and Aaron and Lindsay and our friend Anthony Geo. And I know there was a lot of kids menu ordering. And our friend Andrew. And Andrew Grissom.

Yeah. So kids menu in general ordering is tough because a lot of places the policy really is that you should be a child. You don't, like, they don't necessarily want to give you whatever the deal is unless you're actually a kid. Right. To entice parents to come in and, you know, order adult meals, big boy meals. But now with this new mobile ordering, you can order kids meals all the live long day and they won't know who it's for because you're not, you don't have to have a kid there. All it is, you order it and they put it right up by the mobile ordering day and they won't know who it's for because you don't have to have a kid there. All it is, you order it and they put it right up

by the mobile ordering spot and you grab the tray. It's so easy. You don't feel guilty at all. Well, I believe that Disney has always been like, yeah, whatever, yeah, buy a kid's meal. As long as you're spending the money, we don't care. Most places are like that. There's a social stigma.

Yeah, most places, besides McDonald's, social stigma yeah most places like besides like uh mcdonald's doesn't care if you're ordering the happy meal right um but yeah why does that not feel as stigmatized as other kids certainly you would not do it at a sit-down restaurant nor do i have a desire to i is mcdonald's because everyone knows it's a little high in calories and salt and everything so like like Happy Meal does shrink your portions? Like, is that? Maybe it's just Happy Meals are just such a part of culture. Why would you deny an adult the opportunity to buy one? To get a toy, yeah. I'm not sure. I know there are places, I don't have an example, that really are like you have to be you have to have a kid to do the kids meal so i think probably there's you know most places will do it for you but yes there's a stigma you don't want to look stupid um and i think some places the kids meal is kind of a

discounted meal yeah so but i don't not necessarily at disney probably but we so doing this order is kind of... Oh. That's a little trick. It's a little... That's a hack to you. I thought it was pretty cheap. Well, we went...

So we went down, just to contextualize this, Mike and me and Anthony Gio went down. We left LA at like 6.30 in the morning to be there with Disneyland. We did rope drop. We did rope drop. Almost to close. Almost to close. We did 15 and a half hours, I think. Something like that.

Wow. And so we started to get a little case of the hungries around 10, 10, 30. We were in Cars Land and we all kind of wanted a snack. We had gone on Guardians three times in a row. Went on three times in a row. Because we did it right when we walked in. Just walked right on. And so we walked into Flo's and and so we went we walked into flows

they're still serving breakfast the kids uh options of breakfast a couple of us got like a little serving of eggs a little thing potatoes turkey bacon a little pile of fruit you had little waffles and turkey bacon waffles waffles your nickname waffles Your new nickname. Little Waffles. My new nickname or his? Yours. Oh, okay. Even though Mike had it. Even though Mike had it. All right.

Better for you, Little Waffles. Yep, Little Waffles. Yeah, and it was like a few bucks. It was a nice $5. It was like five something with the AP discount. Yeah. So when you're looking at a full plate of food, even at Disney, a full plate of food is never $5.75. It's at least, I think now, $8, $7 or $8.

So to have a very decent portion of food is pretty unheard of, which is why I think it's maybe a little discount. I mean, obviously, everything's marked up way, way high. But all you have to do to get it is fraudulently pose as a child or a caretaker to children what we what we did is we all four of us had big lollies and we held the lollipops up when we went to pick up the trays after mobile order and in your case mike you had to hold it to block your facial hair yes um but if but a big enough lolly you'll do that easily uh-huh i believe uh i was there to pick up the two trays with the four meals, and the woman there was like, oh, you know, you can come back

and get the other tray. And I go, oh, no, and I pointed to Andrew, and I said, oh, I have a helper, which is something that my mom or dad would say when I was little. Really playing the part. And then we did this again later at night around 7. I got chicken nuggets. It came with fries, apple slices, and a Coke. Similarly priced, like five or six bucks.

You had two children's meals on this day. But Mike, and at that one, Mike ordered the toddler meal. I ordered what? Essentially the smallest serving you've ever seen of mac and cheese and then a pouch of applesauce. Yeah, it was like... Why that? I wanted a little snack to tide myself over until like an hour or two. And they had mac and cheese.

And I didn't know the portion until I got it. But it was like... A baby cup that would fit on a tray of a stroller yeah it was like a little pudding cup full of macaroni and cheese that was very small noodles and then i sucked applesauce out of a little plastic package out of a tube out of a tube perverse well that was that was to tide you over to then when you had jambalaya a few hours later. Yeah, then I had an adult meal, a full adult portion of jambalaya.

But I had... We should talk about this, too. I have to talk about this. I mean, this might be one of my greatest Indiana Jones sliding under the falling wall and grabbing his hat at the last moment. This was one of the most, and I've been to Disneyland with you a lot.

This is top five moments with Jason at Disneyland. And there was a Sunday. So there was a Sunday that was holiday exclusive. And they were only serving it at the Golden Horseshoe. And what was the Sunday? Sure. It was peppermint ice cream. Sure.

With candy cane pieces. Brownie chunks, fudge, fudge or chocolate syrup. I don't think it was hot. It wasn't hot when I got it. So I think it was just chocolate sauce. And then two mini churros that were filled with caramel. There's still stuff in the churros. There's stuff in the churros. Then these are buried deep, many layers into a sundae.

No, they were sticking out like the sides. Okay, exploding out. So you could dip and put it back and then spoon, and then when you were ready for more churro. They've been doing a lot of limited time food stuff, so that's kind of how they're paying the bills nowadays. That's a fun thing they do, yeah. Because otherwise, Disney's shutting the lights off no more ac at disney they'd have to build the rock build more

rides or something uh which yeah they're they're not doing that anytime soon barely doing that um so uh so i really wanted this sunday and and i didn't see it until like i was looking through the app and i saw that and uh right as you guys were finishing eating and your eyeballs turned into little mini churros and exploded out of your face and then back in yeah to me out of my chair across the table ouch hey jason but i said oh i'd like to walk over to golden horseshoe and get this and right lindsay said that's great i have a giant cup of disney coffee a disgusting dis Disney coffee that I need to finish. Right, before we went on Haunted Mansion or something.

I forget exactly what. So we walked over there, and there was a time crunch because the Golden Horseshoe closes. Closed in about 25 minutes. I believe at like 9 o'clock or was it 10? It closed at 9. At 9. So we're walking toward Golden Horseshoe, and you're like, this might not be right, but in my mind, you're like rubbing your hands.

Like you're licking your lips and rubbing your hands like you're very excited about the Sunday. And what could be here? I'll ask this to the listener. To Jason, what could be more attractive than a Sunday? What would he be more excited about? Because that is what he saw. Especially in the Frontierland area. Right, in that little clue

yes and the goal like when you're looking right at golden horseshoe uh toward the big thunder area what is right around there and it possibly an even more limited offering right than sundays the answer find a sunday i know you're all shouting the answer right now because the answer is the mark twain open at night because Fantasmic is not running. Yes. And you were like, oh, like you couldn't, like you were collecting yourself. You were like, oh my, can we, is a Mark Twain open at night? Oh, a night Mark Twain ride?

Like you kept like kind of like just questioning the reality of it. Like, can we go on the Mark Twain right now? And then it was like we saw you make the decision of like Sunday versus Mark Twain, Sunday. And you're like, oh, when am I going to get on the Mark Twain again at night? Because Fantasmic is usually running. I'm not sure why it wasn't running. Yeah, I don't know if it was just lower crowds because it was a weekday

or it was the weather. It was a little chilly. Yeah, nothing crazy. Nothing crazy. Our guest Anthony Gio had not been on it before either and he had said oh i'd like to ride i'd like to see you uh with a shit-eating grin on your face riding that boat and we didn't get around to it during the day so we just kind of written it off and then we saw so we so we were like okay you're like okay i think there'll be enough time. There's 25 minutes or whatever. The boat ride isn't that long. We got on Mark Twain.

We went up to the top. It was a beautiful night. And we were standing there for a while. Yeah. So we were standing there for a while and we're like, is it just staying in hard? Is it staying docked? Is it actually going to go around the rivers of America? So we asked and they said, oh, it's like 10 minutes.

845. It departs at 845. It departs at 845. Right. It departs at 845. So then now this is where stuff gets interesting because Golden Horseshoe closes at nine. So we're like, oh, well, how long does it take to get around? It's probably like 12, 13, 14 minutes to get around. And we're standing on the top deck and you or somebody encouraged you to maybe go down to the Sunday and bring it back. Yeah.

And you were like, yes. So you ran down. So I tried that. I think I texted Scott at this moment and I said, Jason's going to try to get. And I have a video of it. Jason's going to try to go down and get the Sunday and bring it back on the Mark Twain. But he only has so many minutes. Along with a lot of gifs of Ethan Hunt barely escaping explosions and clouds of fog.

So we were doing a bit where it was like Mission Impossible Fallout and you were running after a sundae. And I think Anthony Gio was like, same old Jason. I am screaming at strangers. I'm working on it. Uh-huh. So we watch you as you run into Golden Horse. You're like, oh, man, he's got to make it.

You got to get back. I go, oh, it would be horrible if he missed the Mark Twain, but he had a Sunday in his hand. The best if he could, like, barely, like, yes, barely make the leap. Right. So with Sunday intact, like it almost splashes out of the kid, leaves the cup entirely and then splashes back down perfectly. Or it, like, landed in a lady's hat and then eats it out of the it leaves the cup entirely and then splashes back down perfectly or it like landed in a lady's hat and then eats it out of the hat like a lady's big hat and then he's like excuse me madam and he takes the hat a makeshift bowl right i'm macgyvering this so all of a sudden we see him emerge from the golden horseshoe with no sundae and we're like what's

what the fuck what's going on and i did though like yeah yeah you made a signal motion like nah not gonna happen running your hand across your neck and then you come up and you're like lines too long it's not gonna happen it's not moving no one was getting it was taking a while so then you know mark twain and then the boat starts going around and we're checking the time and it's a lovely little trip around at night i don't think i've ever done it at night it's very nice i think i think by the time we passed the the uh hungry bear i had put it out of my mind the sunday to just enjoy the boat because i'm like well we're not gonna get back in time and get on right but i still have my eye on the time still had his eye on the time and i was like it's gonna be close so we're coming back on the dock and we come back on the dock, it's going to be close. So we're coming back on the dock. And we come back on the dock. And it's a short little jaunt from the dock to Golden Horseshoe.

You flashed your phone. You held your phone up. Yeah. And was it 57 or 58? It might have been 58. It was 8.58. When we docked, I think. So even then, that's a process of waiting for the doors to open.

You got to get the people out of the way. And you're trying not to knock people out of the way. So I was like, I think you maybe can do it. So you went to the front, and Anthony Gio was right behind you. Yeah, this has been documented. Multiple photographers, multiple angles, apparently. I've only seen some of them. So the boat, finally, they open up all the doors. You and Gio and and i i'm also

like in tow i'm behind and you guys take off and i look at my phone and it's 59 it is 859 and you are walking walking walking walking and i'm looking and i can see now and and lindsey got held up for a second and i kind of like look back to check where she was. I looked over. You make it in the door. I can see the employee. I can see cast members. I can see the employee taking the exit stops out of the door. Anthony Geo makes it in right. The guy closes the door behind him.

And you guys made it in. And I couldn't believe it. It was like the most triumphant moment. You made it into Golden Horseshoe. Through saloon doors that were closing and you got your goddamn sunday i got it i got it and i got to witness uh the the there's like two people ahead of me you know they're running two different there's there's serving hot food on the one side and then there's another guy making ice cream stuff and when the person ahead of me just orders like chicken fingers um

i can see him kind of leaning next to on the cashier like he's like what's this last guy gonna do what's this last guy gonna do and i say one one peppermint holiday sunday please and he i don't he didn't throw his hands up but i could tell he like i could tell he was like all right one more like kind of got up from his lead and made it and he made it fast like uh he was ready to go and it was delicious and like we had an indiana jones fast pass and you were like that was the other you were like fuck it go ahead i'm eating this sunday i'm not gonna scarf this down so you ate it alone but you ate it in the golden horse or you took it? I took it back to where, across from the Jungle Cruise. By Bengal Barbecue.

There's this very nice indoor seating area by Bengal Barbecue. And then we came and rejoined because during all of this, Aaron and I had broken off to have a quiet dinner by ourselves. I'm very pleased with that decision. decision but i to walk back up to you having uh just sitting here with the the final i think you'd left the churros as the final component of it or at least well i was yeah i was kind of going back and forth trying a little bit of everything and yeah i definitely left some churro for the end for dipping so this in level of like tier of treats this is a high tier treat you think yeah i think it was a high tier treat and i i kind of did something that usually i like to have some bigger meal throughout the day but i this day i sort of just kind of snacked through the day and i did find that very satisfying

and it was extra satisfying to have this this high level treat at the very end with steaks and with the with steaks winds lapping at your behind of the the closing doors of the saloon the fallout of all my good intentions delight i will say this there were two points because we showed up much later and split off for a little bit and both times that i needed to convene or reconvene with the group both of them this one was andrew and one was you, Mike. It was, like, so where are you guys at? Well, we're getting Jason a snack.

Which I love the we're getting. It's very parental. Like, he needs his juice. His cocoa juice. He already had his packed snacks, so he needs a purchase snack. And you did have packed snacks i did have packed snacks yes you really do you bring a like a big bag full of stuff to the parks i mean

it was a long day there but yeah you bring a whole thing like a picnic lunch i used to be real no bag and then uh you know i found it better to go back to an old boy scout trick and and when you're uh camping or hiking in colder weather, it's better to wear lots of layers, lots of thinner layers, and that way if you get hot, you just remove some of them, but you still got to put them somewhere.

So rather than carrying one big bulky coat, I had a sweater and a t-shirt and a lightweight coat. And a Swiss Army knife that every piece that came out of it was a pretzel or a granola yeah nature valley crunchy granola bar or a peppermint stick yeah um yeah uh important tool for the parks um well harrowing adventure here and uh on on the snack front we should say we're we as we record this are enjoying a holiday feast that is far greater than five macaroni noodles meant for a toddler. We've generously been provided a huge plate of meats and cheeses from our friends at Cheesemongers of Sherman Oaks, our friends Kia and Tyler who listen to the show and who've come up on the show before.

They made us a really nice little platter and a note written to us good boys, and we're working on clearing the plate. We will not be leaving drops behind, as Mike is wont to do at your Liberty Taverns and such. No, I would not disrespect the plate like I did the plate at Liberty Square Tavern. Our eyes were exactly the right size for our stomachs. Yeah, that was great. Yes, thank you. They're not an official sponsor other than that they gave us, you know, cheeses and stuff.

But I'm just, I'm a fan of what they do. And if you're in the L.A. area, go to Cheesemongers at Sherman Oaks and tell them you're a Podcast the Ride fan. Because Kia once got recognized as being a fan of our show. And she was very delighted by that. To be recognized for fandom. She also, she made an effort to make a plate that was suited to, like it's cheeses and meats. It's not super sweet.

But brownies were included for the treat boy here. And I said, best brownie I've had all year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before we started recording. Yes, that's high praise. I've had some dry brown yeah yeah before we start recording yes that's high praise i i've had some dry brownies this year i feel like this one was not dry what happened year 2018 i don't know i feel like any time i go you know you go into a bakery or cafe in la and they have like a case of stuff and and so many times been like oh that brownie looks good

look it's got a little caramel drizzle on top. And then God knows how long it's been sitting there. It ends up being very dry or overcooked. But these brownies, Kia, I'm going to be asking for the recipe. This was perfect. We're trying to figure out, is there a way to customize it to us?

And she was asking me, what do the guys like? And I'm like, well, Jason likes sweets and Mike likes blue alcoholic goo. Colors. Which is why she included Kintz paste. That's as close as she can come. It's almost like a Jell-O.

That's a really undercutting Kintz paste. Like a Sprite. Yeah. It's as close to like a jam or something. Yeah, it Yeah. A spread. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's as close to like a jam or something. Yeah, it's jelly-like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's an attempt to get, that's as close as they could get

to your variety of alcoholic beverage. If she could have dyed a wheel of cheese all the colors of the rainbow, that would have been something I'd be into. The olives are pretty brightly colored green. Yeah, but not bright enough. Cheesemongers, guys, tip for kia just set it you need a kid's menu you need a wheel of cheese that is where you have dyed all of the you've dyed the

cheese uh every color from red to purple neon colors to like those crayons they introduced in the 90s remember when they were like neon crayons in the crayola box oh sure i'm talking about all of those other colors that goldfish are when you see goldfish that are not just the orange when they're also green and purple yeah that's it yeah that's the answer if there's only is one plus that's the plus up we would do with this this fine cheese right store establishment ruin the cheese with colors more dyes more dyes please um i also i was trying to find disney connections to any of this and what they included. And in the plate, there was some duck salami.

Yes. Like Donald. Oh, we're eating it. So it's like we got to feast on Donald's remains as we sat here. That's nice. Isn't that a sweet way to put it? Yeah. And also, a type of salami called mole salami, but it looks like mole.

And she has had to assure people that this is not meat made out of a mole. I would, but it would be fun because mole is a Wind in the Willows character. So we're like, we're eating mole. Toad's friend mole. Yeah. So that's another like theme possibility is toad meats and badger meats. I'm sure they're all fantastic. So yeah, there's a menu.

That's really what Disney should put on the menu is you should be able to visit all your favorite characters and then meet your favorite characters and then eat your favorite characters. Sure, neat. Eat a mouse. Oh, man. If Mike could get an all-you-care-to-eat family-sized platter of Mighty Akron meat. Oh, my God. Whoa.

I like how you said all-you-care-to-eat. Well, that is... I'm just following the... Is that the new way to write it? That is Disney switched... I think a lot of... Some restaurants switched from all-you-can-eat to all-you- to all you care to eat as a way to try and trick people to like, don't just eat until you can't eat anymore.

Just eat a normal amount. I think it's a thing that came up. I'm sure it's working. Obesity epidemic. Yeah. But yes, I would feast on the Banshee, aka the Mighty Akron. Yeah. would feast on the banshee aka the mighty akron yeah that would be they don't serve that or they really should serve like they at the hat the canteen and avatar which is one of the best

quick service restaurants at any theme park i feel um they don't make fake they don't say like chicken is akron or something but they should that would be fun also something that uh bakia cheesemongers or any aspiring restaurateur could do. And you could spell it differently. It doesn't have to be spelled like the fox and eventually Disney-owned word, a cron. You could spell it like crab with a K. You could get it off a little bit. But if you could be the first establishments to get a cron meat.

And also, it's a small investment, but you would have to, I guess, travel to Pandora to get it, really. But if your restaurant got an Avatar pod, and then you could go to that world, hunt the Akron, kill it, and bring it back to Earth with you, that's a hell of an angle for a restaurant. Yeah, I mean, theme parks are getting more immersive And maybe that's the next step Of we'll be able to haunt our own quick service meals

That's the only way to eat at the Evermore Park The fully immersive one You have to kill your meal before you eat it Or like a mystical creature A boar isn't mystical In the Disney of the future You have to walk up to a Clarabelle cow. Oh, and milk her. Yeah, get your milk from her.

She's friendly about it. She's perfectly, she knows what she is. Some of the cheeses did say made by Clarabelle on it. So I guess that's what. That was another. Is there, wait, is that real? Huh? No.

Okay. I don't know the name of the chia. Oh, I meant the ones Kia provided. Yeah. Oh, yeah, sure. You said she works closely with the farm. So, you know, she works with Clarabelle's home. Yeah, she works with the Big Thunder Ranch before it closed.

Oh, sure, yeah. That gives all the cheese from those goats. Yeah. One of my favorite things from the trip was that we all had waters from that kids meal and breakfast and you went back to the counter to exchange it for a milk. Yes. Because it's protein. Protein helps fill you up.

Also, I had a giant bottle of water in my bag. A carton of milk, though, like a school child. So here's the part of the podcast where the eater of the toddler mac and cheese is roasting the drinker of the child's milk. I sucked apple juice out of a little packet. Like a—

Applesauce. Applesauce. Yeah, excuse me. Applesauce. I slurped applesauce through a straw, essentially, in like a—what do you call it? Not a juice box. What are the— Capri Sun. It was the... Capri Sun.

It was like a Capri Sun, and I sucked apple juice out of it. But I didn't go back to get it. That's the difference here. That's the issue. That's the thing that makes it better. We finally found the line. I was getting Tabasco, too, for the eggs. That's true.

And you also said you were going to go get a roll or a biscuit. I was going to buy an a la carte biscuit because the biscuits looked really good, and I decided I didn't need the eggs. That's true. And you also said you were going to go get a roll or a biscuit. I was going to buy an a la carte biscuit because the biscuits looked really good and I decided I didn't need the carbs. But then you came back with the milk. I came back with milk. I just thought it was fun. Yeah, it is fun. It's like a carton of milk. Now you know.

If you're wondering, what is the dream world of visiting the parks with the guys themselves? The real guys you know it involves carb considerations and child's milk cartons thrown out the window as i made everyone wait while i went to a little uh pop-up shed to buy a pot roast sandwich that is true we were waiting there and it wasn't so it wasn't so long but you yeah they have the festival the food festival now in California Adventure,

and they have all these different foods. And you went to buy... I went to get jalapeno, like spicy latkes, because I was like, ooh, that sounds good. Jason was eating like 11 a.m. spicy latkes at one of these carts. They were out. And so then I went to the next cart, and I got like a small like beef sandwich, small pot roast. It was pretty small, like, beef sandwich. Small pot roast sandwich. Pretty small. Like Club Girl.

Right. So, well, we should post the time stamps of when all of these meals occurred. Uh-huh. Should write these in, like, a fancy calligraphy font. Should make this a limited edition, you know. So, like, a tapestry that you could mount on a wall. Yeah. If you want to honor Jason's meals for the day um all the j or it's a 2019 calendar

honoring every every every month is a 1 through 12 is items you had on this particular day oh cool march is a cliff bar and coffee he made at home um all right merch on the way in 2019 but hey we can't uh we can't skip past 2018 because we're currently in the holiday season and we have to acknowledge the re the reason for the season the real the true real like why this time of the year matters, and that is Grinchmas. Merry Grinchmas to everyone. Merry Grinchmas. I don't care if it's PC to say or not. I'm saying it. Merry Grinchmas.

I've been saying to everyone on the street. I don't care who hears it. Okay, so Grinchmas, if you don't know, has been a tradition for almost two decades running at Universal Studios, both Hollywood and Orlando. Really, just ever since the finest film thus far of the millennium, the Jim Carrey, Ron Howard, How the Grinch Stole Christmas came out in the year 2000. We're now, we're heading into 2019. We're almost 20 years into this millennium. Has a film topped it we got off to such a strong start it is still the movie to beat in the it is uh it is an

unstoppable juggernaut everyone has a tradition with it we all do obviously now um we're excited to even though we don't have kids we are all thinking about having kids to show them this, to continue the tradition on. It would be the primary reason, yes. Yeah. To pass the fine tradition of Grinchism down to a new generation, because I'm worried it's going to slide. Yeah. And everybody's so mixed up now, what with this new one. This new Grinch who is, you know, he's making it a little too personal with these ads all around L.A.

telling you your acting career isn't going good. He's too mean. You didn't learn those sides well enough. Are those customized for each city? Like, in Detroit? Is it about the auto? Is he roasting the auto industry? Yeah.

Or the water, the drinking water? Oh, God. industry uh yeah the water the drinking water oh oh god it's yeah they they criticize you know farms in kansas and like uh they tell pittsburgh steel workers uh hey your steel sucks the grinch goes there did donald trump reopen those steel mills i didn't think so um he's roast he's roasting coal miners he's uh yeah uh but just you know just like trump we like uh he speaks his mind we would we want the grinch to be honest that's what we like about him yeah yeah but even still i think this new grinch is too uh it's too rude and uh and too animated and i want my grinch will always be well not the original grinch that was animated as well to me the grinch needs to be live action and it needs

to be an actor who is suffering for 20 hour days covered in yak fur uh and is have in so much pain that he needs a cia expert to help him cope. Yes, I think that's right. I think that you want to see that suffering on screen, and that's a big part of what makes the Grinch. You really believe why he's such a Grinch. It's because you can feel Jim Carrey's pain and having PTSD. Oh, no, I guess that's later.

He has PTSD. He went hard. He's covered in a lot of makeup, and he went hard in that movie. He did, and that is a true fact. I think the first makeup application for this film took eight hours, and the story is that he kicked a hole in a wall and said, I can't do the movie. What a prima donna.

Yeah. He's not willing to do eight hours of makeup every day. And I think they got it down there. It got better. But I think where it truly got maddening for him was the contact lenses. Oh, yeah. He had to put in the little reptile style contacts. And I did a video one time where I was like...

It was kind of grinchy. I was playing sort of like a Dr. Seuss-y character, and I was essentially naked and then covered in fluff. Something was sprayed on me to give me a furry texture. And then there was talk of giving me contacts, and I think I must have flashed to jim carrey i think i'm going so insane already i think that will be the final thing because i did there was one other video where i did wear the little contacts and drove me crazy because i don't

wear contact lenses yeah to begin with so then there's these weird uh that's a hard thing to wrap your head around putting those up but apparently anyway back to jim carrey apparently he would like he put those in and for some reason this the like fake snow it was all over the set was just gravitated to those contacts so he's he has no none of jim carrey's real skin is visible or like he's covered head to toe and then fucking snow is filling up in his eyeballs that already have contact horrible what are we doing can you see you can see out of them just like everything is green as well and And then fucking snow is filling up in his eyeballs that already have contact. Horrible. What are we doing?

Can you see? You can see out of it just like everything is green as well and also distorted because of the way the thing looks, I assume. I'm not sure. I haven't done that level of like monster. I haven't done the Marilyn Manson contact lenses. I just did something that tinted my pupils blue one time and I hated it so much. When did you see blue, basically?

No, I don't think I did. It ends up being fine fine but just like if you're not used to putting on contact i'm sure they make it a little cloud i i have never had contact lenses and i did ask an eye doctor once i was like oh could you size me for them just in case i decide to try them out and they're like yeah just a heads out just a reminder you pretty bad stigmatism in one eye. And so he's like, so he put one in the one eye and that felt okay, felt a little weird, but I had never had it done before. He put it in the other eye and within 30 seconds, I was like, take it out, take it out, take it out. Did it hurt? It did hurt.

It was simultaneously painful and annoying. Oh, interesting. Now, there are special contacts for people with this stigma you can get it but it does cost more and you have to make sure you get the right ones and stuff but the one that always seemed the scariest uh was that when jordy and started the next generation would take his visor off they'd have to put in opaque contacts because he's blind on the show and he couldn't see anything oh which always sounded like i would have a panic claustrophobic panic attack with that but i was like god how often did he i've like he once in a while he would take the visor off yeah but yeah just a solid wall

inside your eyeballs yeah i i you they would have to like coach like coach me through a technique to make we just did it we maybe we'll talk about it later we just did a seance at the magic castle the houdini seance and this is this i i sometimes sleepwalk in the middle of the night if the room is too dark i get weird and i'll be like where's the bathroom or something or where's the door i usually can't find the door unless you have to be like oh it's over here and she sent me into a brief panic attack because he because the guy running the seance was like all right i hope everyone's okay being in the dark she goes i hope you're okay being in the dark she was kind of joking and i spiraled for a minute just a minute of like oh my god yeah what what and i'm like okay it's fine it's fine but i truly

like was like should i tell like should i tell them I'm going to be bad in the dark? Or should I? It's funny, when he said that, it will be pitch black in here when I turn it down. I did think, like, hope old blackout curtain mic's okay. Yeah, but so I could see, like, I have that sometimes knee-jerk little panic attack thing. I put on, for a funnier day, I put on a like, I have that sometimes knee-jerk little panic attack thing. I put on, for a funnier die, I put on a helmet, a racing helmet, because those are very tight over your head. So the idea that it was tight, I think, is the psychological thing.

So I, like, squeeze it over my head, and I, for, like, a minute or two, I was like, you're not going to get out of this ever. It's not going to, you're never going to get out of this. And I had to be like, okay, all right, it's fine. Everything's fine. They're going to have to, like, chainsaw you out of this ever it's never gonna get out of this and i had to be like okay all right it's fine everything's fine they're gonna have to like chainsaw you out of it yeah and this same thing happened when i was fitted for this thing that the bit i never did on conan is when i had to put on a big fat suit and they squeezed me into it and my arms were over my head and they got stuck over my head and that was the worst because it was like you're never getting out of here you're never getting out of here and they pulled it like down on top of me and i was like like kind of seeing like like i was a very small circle in the room and no one's paying attention obviously no one notices because i'm not like screaming uh and

then i was like you know could we um could you like we put this on a different way he's like oh yeah yeah maybe and they luckily they cut it off but like so i can see like those things which are very minor i thought you were gonna have to live as a fat man i thought of your life i was going to then the doctor breaking the news it's not coming off it's grafted to your body now your skin has accepted it and this is just your skin now this is your skin it's slowly turning into actual skin cell by cell hey guys it's mike here i have a little message about a company called everlane that makes some awesome clothes look would you buy a t-shirt for fifty dollars

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costume context costume fat suits costume makeup you have to be in it for hours and hours on a film set or a tv set and people like jim carrey if you're the star of it they check on you up on you a lot but if you're just kind of in the background like good luck you're just they check on you every now and then raise your hand just don't pass out please don't pass out yeah so there's many who's extra the who's in whoville that had to go through a crazy process as well they just there weren't pas rushing over to them with fans there was like one fan for 30 whovillians yeah yeah well and i bet the big concern was like will will jim leave will he stop doing this right because he had to be in that

costume for 92 shoot days or something and they finally got it down to where it only took three hours to put on and one hour to take off madness this is the kind of i was thinking about all this this is in kind of a crucial juncture where movies are changing a lot and i hearing about all this you kind of go yeah maybe everything should be cgi maybe that's right maybe like i'm as much as any i love seeing an et puppet in a scene instead of a cgi creature i prefer that in my jurassic parks or what have you but when you're talking about a guy going mad needing a cia torture expert to help him through the process and require in every second of the day he's like his face is getting touched up and like yeah maybe computers make sense not the worst idea i was watching a video

of um ninja turtles the firsttles, and they were doing fight choreography, but the guys were in the suits doing it. And I was like, man, are we ever going to see a Ninja Turtle movie where the guys are, people are in the suits again? And the answer is no, there's no way. Like, there's just no way. Because you really imagine, and then I'm like, oh yeah, thinking about the day of work and how hard it was to puppet, because there's puppet tear off to the side moving their head but

then there's a person in that just insane suit big thick rubber suit i think there's fans in there but like yeah how hard that must be they did three ninja turtle movies yeah that uh speaking of conan i don't think you worked with this guy but the the special effects uh guy who worked at conan for a long time was a did the costumes for number three uh he took it over for number three and i i don't remember the stats but i saw he had a photo up in his office of like the warehouse of all of the turtle suits dangling down and like once they were done when you were done with a day of shooting it was gone in the wash an entire day so there had to be like i want to say four separate suits for all the main characters just the those so they would clean them

essentially yeah like you're out it like it's the cleaning process is so intense, like a full day is gone. So you're not shooting with that suit for an entire day. That's like a major, major wash in a shop for a long time. Because they would be sweating so bad in the suit and it would stink so bad. Yeah. They'd have to clean it. Paint comes off and probably you got to touch up. But seeing this creepy like dry cleaner setting with all turtle skin hanging around i'd still like to see it oh yeah oh it's cool yeah yeah it's terrifying the same guy did

a short circuit so there's like a um what's the guy johnny five uh oh right right one of those is hanging around the office too and you had to wash johnny five every day too so you need to like four johnny fives massage it also yeah make sure it's comfortable um so you know at universal studios every year you can still visit a tribute to this uh glorious age of incredibly inconvenient film yeah oh sorry and not again to reiterate not the current grinch movie current box office gross 211 million 619 175 people very successful gonna top the originals gross which was already which i think was like around 250 240 million not acknowledged i went up there last night there is not a drop of new grinch why it is still jim carrey grinch i think i saw one poster from a picture at CityWalk,

but that might also have been the week it came out. The actual area of Grinchmas, which I don't think I've clarified if you haven't been up there, it is essentially, this place is called Universal Plaza or something. It's taken over this little zone that's this little Whoville winter wonderland. It's not necessarily a thing through the entire park.

So there's this miniature Whoville set up. And within that, no acknowledgement of new current smash hit film, The Grinch. Maybe next year. Maybe they just didn't have the time and maybe they didn't want to like muck it up. A different style, a very different style of film it seems like they do like universal was doing the illumination grinch though to like weave the grinch into their universe of movies and it feels very synergenistic or whatever the word would be but so it's bizarre that they didn't roll that out in this year because that's that's the grinch now well and they're starting to we've got

despicable these all these films are grinch's illumination entertainment, as is Despicable Me, as is Secret Life of Pets, which is coming to Universal. So all of that, and supposedly that's coming in on the upper lot. So there'd be this little... There's already this little illumination zone. Right. And Grinch is right there. It would make sense.

It would all tie together really clean. So maybe next year is the time to roll out the cumber cumberbatch uh grinch yeah however though maybe it happens and then maybe i kind of miss jim carrey grinch in a weird way i think it's kind of funny that they're still committed to well some of the set dressings that i saw looked uh like painted painted in the seuss style painted in the the book style, painted in the book style. Yeah. Sort of mixed in.

Well, and there's a lot of imagery around of the Seuss Grinch. So it's a big old mess of all Grinch. Yeah. The interesting thing about the Jim Carrey Grinch is how perverse it seems to me. Every time I see a photo of it, it's scary and weird.

Illumination Grinch seems, you got it, he's straight of it it's like scary and weird and illumination grinch seems you got it he's straight ahead it's sassy yeah uh let me ask did you guys see the jim carrey grinch in theaters no i've never seen the entire never seen the entire i haven't either so i remember going to the theaters that weekend and my dad and brother saw it and i opted for the other big release of november 17th 2000 arnold schwarzenegger's the sixth day whoa sixth day really the cloning one that's the one where there's two of them it was fine it was fine i enjoyed it at the time uh you know this is the hell one is that the hell one or is that no what's the hell one that came around that's right around that time i can't like last two movies before a governor it was sixth day and there

was something about hell i don't know who cares who gives a shit both fine uh but yeah i don't know why they were insistent on seeing that i was like oh maybe i'll go see the sixth day what they think i think they liked it yeah i think they liked it okay like we laughed so much we laughed up a storm jason and you missed out um this was also the time of charlie's angels would have been in theaters the first one oh yeah yeah no 2000 2000 i think it was i think charlie's angels is out there i didn't see that in the theater either um i don't think I did. Too bad no theme park presence of McG, Charlie's Angels. That's a perfect Universal stunt show. Something.

Hold over and you're like, hey, did you see the Charlie's Angels thing still at Universal? That is perfectly, yes. In Japan. They would still have it today. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But there's new Charlie's Angels coming, so maybe.

Well, one happened a couple years a few years ago right there was a short lived ABC TV revival and it was so bland it was gone before Christmas I feel like wow oh End of Days is what I was looking for that was also kind of fine

both of them pretty fine and then Collateral Damage was the other one he was getting he was he had his eyes out the door i feel like of the movie career yeah towards the end well collateral damage i believe was one of the movies that got delayed because of 9-11 because like oh there's way too we got to dial back the terrorists of attacks in this movie or people yeah a lot of movies got hit yeah right after the fact the the uh while we're talking about the film which influences the uh the park show and the way it has been for many

years running now uh i i would like maybe not everyone would use this term but i i will call what is on the whose faces uh snouts all of the care i characterize these bizarre noses they have as snouts and to me i mean this may have come up when we talked about cat in the hat but i am truly bothered and disturbed by the snouts i understand that if you read a dr seuss book they don't quite look like you or me they don't have human noses however had ron howard just made the decision yeah and then it'll be a bunch of humans i don't think a single person is bothered by that scott i'm 100 with you yeah i was worried i haven't written down why are the residents of Whoville disgusting pig-faced people? I don't understand it.

It's like the Twilight Zone, that one with the pig faces. Yes, I wrote down, are they related to the characters in the Twilight Zone's Eye of the Beholder episode? Because it looks just like that. It doesn't make any sense. I went and found screen grabs from the cartoon special and from the book and i'm like they're just kind of kind of cartoony but they're still human their hair is weird on they do not have bizarre animal faces that was a big swing for the howard movie yeah it was a big choice on their part and now we're stuck with it and forever forever minimum wage actors on both coasts have to get these jobs where in order to perform robotic dance routines many times a day, to have that honor, they have to put on bizarre prosthetic snouts every single day.

But then also, some of them don't? Yeah, some of them have like tiny little noses. Well, there's a bizarre... Okay, so evidently there's a show at Islands of Adventure that is not in Hollywood. There's a whole production in a soundstage. And Mike, you'll be interested in this. From the pictures I saw, it looks like it is in Soundstage 19, technically on the border of Islands of Adventure. You enter through Islands of Adventure, but you can see into the other park.

Sounds in Age 19, often used as the impact zone on impact wrestling. Oh, of course. Yes. But they build a full set and do a retelling of The Grinchmas. And I didn't watch an entire performance of this. And if you, the listener, are mad that I didn't watch

a full Grinchmas show, just please have some Christmas forgiveness for me. Please. But I did skip to one random part where there's a little girl and she does not have a snout and there's a strange line about well you just haven't grown into your nose yet ha ha ha what do you mean they start they're born with regular noses and develop snouts through puberty? What are we talking about? First of all, I just came upon a picture of Matthew McConaughey at Grinchmas. Did anyone see this? No. No, I didn't.

It's Matthew McConaughey and Grinch and then, like, two Whovillians or whatever. I don't know what it's from. I don't have any context for it. That's fun. It's not just snouts i think when you say snout it under sells because i'm pro snout on humans for a lot of things like i grew up with a show called zubily zoo and they were all animals and they all had people some people find this show a bit terrifying yeah i know you know what i'm talking about ben varineen, classic kids show. And I get that that's a little creepy, but I like it.

But it's an extra level of snout. It's an extra level of... I can't describe what makes it so weird and creepy. This upturned... I think it's like having a seal's face melded onto your face. I guess that's maybe... It does look like. It looks like experimenting was done.

It looks like it doesn't look natural and it looks like experiments were done all the Whoville. So there's maybe some horrible backstory of some island of Dr. Moreau where he engineered the Whoville's residence to be snout, snout half human once humans have been synthesized with seals and i will have achieved my ultimate purpose on this earth yeah why what is what is that i made like i don't it doesn't square with my image of the book i read the book as a child and i watched the special and i did not think, oh, mom, can we put on the special where the monster bothers the seal people? Yeah. It is not an accurate. They could have absolutely.

So much plastic is saved over many decades. They don't do this. And they're not like that in the special. If anything, their hair is the interesting part. They're furry. And they're kind of furry. Yeah. Curly Q hair. Yes, that's plenty. Yeah. They're furry. And they're kind of furry. Yeah. Curly Q hair.

Yes, that's plenty. Yeah, they're all furry. And they could have all just been furry. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Just make them all chewy. Or just none of it, which is one of the only good choices in the Mike Myers cat in the hat. Right.

Is that we don't have snouts. What do you call a seal's face that's we need to what's the actual term here face is fine but it's not i guess a seal has a snout a snout isn't specific to one type of animal is it i don't think well there's no there's no seal people is the point in uh in and the only good thing that but you know who is a seal person thing one and thing two and they are horrible in that uh that mike myers i mean they're definitely freaks of nature another thing by the way just sidetrack we already covered we talked about the mike myers movie a little bit a while ago but like um did you guys come across this that when uh theodore giesel's widow made the deal with universal she was really she

really specified um the the actors who star in any of these films have to be of the top tier box office talent like it's we're talking and they she listed like jack nicholson tom hanks jim carrey yeah and so one of the people on her list was in it. But if you think about it now, in the pursuit of getting the biggest stars in the world to be the Dicey's characters, Jim Carrey is literally going and saying he might snap entirely because he's on a CIA level of torture. Mike Myers, do you remember the fact that he like was forced to do that movie because of the sprockets yeah the sprockets movie fell apart and it was to like make good with uh with dreamworks or no universal i guess um and like there was all in the fallout of the sprockets movie people were like following him and bugging his house and

he was like being there was this like bizarre top tier harassment going on of mike myers thus resulting him in being forced resulting in being forced into fur for many hours both of these films are just literally torturing giant movie stars yeah and i remember i mean the story is that Mike Myers' Cat in the Hat made the estate go like, no more live action. No more live action. But the other thing, and this stuff came up a little when we talked about Cat in the Hat with Jenny Nicholson. The initial deal, as reported in the media, was for three movies. And the third, I think, was, oh, the places you'll go. And that just never happened. They never made the third movie. And that was places you'll go and that just never happened we they

never made the third movie and that was gonna be jack nicholson i was gonna say we're gonna use him we're gonna go to a lot of places i've with jack's contract like famously jack has like in his batman contract i think he got to take off for lakers games shooting like it was something where he got paid like so much more than Michael Keaton. He didn't have to work that many hours. And then he got to go to any home Laker games if they were on the schedule. I don't know. He would have had to go in,

in character probably. Yeah. Yeah. He would have been courtside as one of the characters for the seal face, big, big swoopy hair. I think if there, there was apparently almost like somebody pitched

a version of a Jack Nicholson Grinch movie and I think had that panned out they would have taken him into the makeup and costume trailer showing him all of this. So you'll be it's actually Yaks fur and it's going to cover your body and then we're going to paint your face and it'll be kind of like whiskers. They would have taken him through the whole thing and then at the end like

nope. And then it just walks away i think so man not happening and then they would have just like put him under a green light and that's your grinch how about a gel and we're done you know talking about a lister's mcconaughey was there and i hear when he was visiting grinchmas, they did ask him, hey, Matt, what do you want to see? What would you like to see at night when it's dark on the tree? And he said, all lights, all lights, all lights. Oh, my God.

Man. We really had to wait for that. Speaking of Matthew McConaughey, 10 minutes ago. How do you think I feel? I've been waiting for 15 minutes. You've been trying to concoct that i think you're like okay all right all right what is the rhymes with right about the the deal for the live action zeus movies that was that was very good very good you earned your milk here you go thank you

i need not to watch that the ducks along um so because of the way this film is You get a lot of SEAL people And you get to go hang out with them And watch a little show Have you guys experienced a Grinchmas of any kind? Either here or in Florida? Most of my experience with Grinchmas

Is going on the studio tour around Christmas And then doing the Grinch show for the tram The Whovilles sing-along on the studio tour. Yeah, that is my. Which has since been canceled. Canceled, right? Oh, they're doing that now. Yeah.

Okay. So you would go. So generally on the tram tour, you go see the War of the Worlds where there's a down a plane and a bunch of houses or whatever. And then I don't. It's right before, literally next to the Psycho House. Oh, wait. It's before.

I'm getting my geography wrong. Weirdly, the Whoville sets back right up to the Bates Motel. Literally, you share a wall. It's very odd. And yeah, you pull up in front of the tram, and then they sing a song toward you and then that's it like toward that's accurate and then it like as you're pulling up i don't i don't know much about this i don't have a lot of the song in my head except that a guy on stilts is like we've been waiting for you which makes me uncomfortable why you shouldn't have i don't know't have Listen, listen seal people

And there are a lot of A lot of performers in my memory It might be 25 But it's a smallish space And you always go by it on the tour It's just usually there's not performers there And it's this weird It looks like it's really faded in the sun over the years

They have not painted it And usually around Christmas time They just put stuff on top of it yeah but there's like it it wasn't unfun it was kind of like oh good the people are here the who's are here to sing and then but it wasn't it was it was better than you would expect yeah but it's super it's they put more into it than like you know like little little knots snoopy shows yeah so it's So it's not nothing, but it is. Does it make my enjoyment of seeing that set 10 times higher? No.

Maybe 1.5 times higher. Like, oh, go. That was nice. Great. And we're going on. I mainly am just thinking about the madness that sets in with the performers because they're in seal faces they got their snouts on and they're like tram after tram they have to perform the exact same routine there's no room for deviation because it's a pre-recorded musical number so they gotta hit it

exactly and that's also the same zone where a norm Bates has to wait around to attack the tram. And it's kind of weird up there. It's in the hills, and literally there's coyotes wandering around that lot. That's the weirdest part of the tram tour, for sure. It's a weird juxtaposition of things, of scenes. The most happens up there. I don't know. And then no live person has shown up for right 50 minutes because

because stuff yeah stuff would happen periodically and i haven't taken the tram tour so much in the last couple years but sometimes you would get performers doing stunts earlier sometimes you wouldn't there would be stuff that would pop up here and there on the tour there's a little history of yeah i think they did like a maybe a little western shootout yes that's what my memory is that there would be like a guy would do a stunt out of the second story and fall onto a mat. Do like a stuntman fall onto a mat. Yeah. But yeah, and I remember a couple times when like Norman wasn't at the Bates Motel. Like you never quite know what you're going to get.

Did you do the Tram Tour while Grinchmas was happening? Yes, and I specifically remember not really paying attention to any warning that this was going on or it not being clear to me so i was just i was talking i was in the middle of a boring sentence about the ron howard film which used over enough snow to fake snow to cover eight football fields and then rounding a corner and then just a musical starting and i feel like i was probably in pretty high danger of saying on mic, what the fuck is this? I truly didn't know. Wow, so you were just caught off guard entirely.

Yeah, yeah. It really threw me. I had to stop what I was saying. Like I had not been like, I hadn't rehearsed it or been told about it. There's a whole bunch of people doing a thing and you should be aware of it. And here's what you told about it. There's a whole bunch of people doing a thing, and you should be aware of it, and here's what you do around it. Or I may have – everybody had little cubbies where they'd slip pieces of paper that give you new pages of the script. In your first year, you're really studiously looking at that and, okay, so I'm talking about crossing Jordan today.

All right, good. And then by your last couple months, you're like what i don't know like i'll i'll figure it out um so i did i may have just missed the memo during slower production years 80 of your script was about crossing jordan right that was i think for yeah most of the late 2000s the primary i still don't know what it is or no i in it. The summer I started, we had to talk a lot about Carpoolers. Of course. Which was a show with Jerry O'Connell. Bruce McCullough?

Bruce McCullough directed it. We were really trying to hype people up on Carpoolers. And then currently, this is different because I think people actually watch Superstore. But it was funny having to watch a tour guide say, and if you look to your left, you might see some familiar shopping carts because they're trying to get you jazzed up for a bunch of shopping carts. Shopping carts. The famous Superstore Blue.

Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I didn't know how to respond. And I mainly worried about the stir craziness of those actors. And I mainly worried about the stir craziness of those actors. And I still worry about the Normans up there. Just playing a psycho and

just sitting there by yourself for hours on end. I was unnerved. We were taken up around there. We had a walking tour of some of that area not long ago. And we stopped in a golf cart right by the Psycho House.

Yeah, by the Psycho House. And I briefly considered, oh, maybe I can get a picture on the porch. And then a tram came by, and Norman Bates came out of the house because they were still repairing the motel from Horror Nights. Normally, Norman comes out of the Bates Motel. He comes up to the tram. That's it. But they hadn't out of the Bates Motel. He comes up to the tram. That's it. But they hadn't put Norman in the house this time. So he comes out to terrorize the tram.

But we're on foot like 20 feet from him. And he turns and looks at us. And I was like, he's going to come after us. Oh, if you look to your left, look out. There's Norman Bates. And next to him, a couple of dipshits next to a golf cart. Yeah, we broke the illusion we did for sure us in the vip trolley we kind of followed up that road that's true there's vip trolley like we were all combing through the wreckage of the of the neighborhood yeah so i i take that stuff seriously and one time i was wandering the lot

uh i was i was walking around there with our friend r Perez, and we walked up to the back of Jaws. So we're across the lake watching the thing happen. And I was like, I can't let this place down. This is my alma mater. We got to do this right. So I made him react to the death of the fisherman getting eaten. It's funny you say that. And I will keep the whoever

took us to do this secret i don't know if it really matters uh he said that he'll go over there on a lunch break and they'll always react to it so he was like hey we're gonna go over to the behind the jaws and we'll react when the guy gets eaten so the tram pulls up they said we were waiting for this the tram pulls up the diver diver, the blood, the whole thing. He and I go, ah, like we react. I look over. Jason's on his phone taking a video of it, not reacting at all. And we go, Jason, this is the whole thing.

We were going to all pretend. And oh, I'm sorry. And then it didn't. But you ruined it for those tourists. Oh, boy. I was showing them the real behind the scenes. You were like some sick sadist who just wanted to capture. Oh, yeah. Sick fuck.

Yeah. Capture films. Yeah. You were playing the part of a snuff filmmaker. Which does count as something. It does count as something. It was so funny, though, because I looked over and you were not reacting. You were just on your phone.

You know, when I was looking on YouTube, I think there actually was some additional tour content at some point in time for the Grinch, which is that, okay, so it's not there anymore. But in the place that is now Fast and Furious, there was this tunnel that was initially, when they built it, it was an avalanche. And then they painted it. And it's like an infinite tunnel effect that's spinning and spinning. And it really bugs out your perspective and makes you dizzy. And the whole tram fits inside of it. And so it was an avalanche first. And then they painted it red for Dante's Peak to pretend you were in a lava flow, which was a pretty tough sell.

And then it became the mummy's tomb uh the tomb of the dragon emperor and so it was just painted like tan and but what is it what do you mean it's spinning around avalanche makes more sense to me than that it was always really odd the whole thing was great effect great effect yes it does like Yeah, it's a very neat, big haunted house effect. Hard to find a property to climb onto, though. Yeah, not a lot of things fit in terms of rotating tunnels. So I think they did, at one point, try to make that tunnel Mount Crumpit, the home of- Oh, they did.

They tried to make it like an avalanche in the Grinch's mountain home. But by then it was already painted brown for the mummy. So they just kind of made it all bright green light and bright red light. And it was that you were rescuing Max somehow, Max the dog. So when it was over, the Grinch is on screen and like you rescued max but i did how i don't i just saw flashing red lights in a tunnel they really a lot of lazy stuff with grinchman like a lot of like half ideas not a lot of money put behind it but like here's our christmas thing here you go i'll say this uh i think think you can get your picture with Max. Supposedly from stuff I read, Max, there's like 11 Maxes.

They're rescue dogs. Isn't that nice? Like, yeah, they get to showcase a rescue dog, maybe get them adopted. They're not too aggressive. Huh? Hopefully they're not too aggressive. You should adopt one of the Maxes. Huh?

You should get a dog. I'm trying to get you to get a dog. Cute little Max. You should get a of the Maxes. Huh? You should get a dog. I'm trying to get you to get a dog. A little Max? You should get a Max, yeah. So I went up there last night, and there's a, you can read a sign of Max facts, which are, you know, that in the film there were six Maxes. Okay. All right. It says the names of all the dogs that played Max in the film.

Fact one. Fact two. The film featured enough fake snow to cover nine football fields. One of my favorite things to say on the tram. Let's relate everything to football fields. Important context. That's fact two. Fact three.

Max is much, much more than just Grinch's loyal dog and unwitting accomplice. He is also his moral compass. Fact? About the character? Now we're not so much in logistics. Fact four, please listen to the trainer's direction when you meet Max. Thank you and Merry Grinchmas. So there's really only two facts in there.

One is just kind of a little character analysis, and one is just, hey, don't be mean to the dog. Yeah't turn your flash off that's an instruction not a fact yeah weird sign guys yeah uh that's what i think i feel good about this podcast where i harangue makers of signs in theme park locations put them in their place yeah they should know what's coming. Signs in front of places where rescue dogs are given opportunities to take care of people. But I do have to say, the interview I saw with an animal trainer, he's like, yeah, you know, get people thinking about rescue dogs this time of year and people getting dogs for Christmas. No, don't get people thinking about that. This is like a bad time because what happens is a lot of people get animals for christmas and then a week later they're they return them to shelter like so

folks souls were saying if you're gonna adopt an animal make sure you can uh commit to that do it in the off season or do it in the off just please yeah it'd be great to clear the shelters for christmas just make sure you can handle the commitment of an animal yeah can you can i yeah no you're going away for the holidays so in january you'll get one i got it okay i'm gonna get you i'm gonna get you a saint bernard for for christmas but i'll give it to you in january you know i hear are there i mean it'd be very fun if i had a giant dog um uh dog and man same size dog and man same size i i think he's gonna have the barrel around his neck i hear they're very very manageable dogs and they're they are beautiful create greyhounds oh yeah aren't they great oh they have a ton of energy

not really uh that's what we associate them because of unfortunate history of racing but if you take them for a couple quick walks a day, they mostly like to sleep. And they're very affectionate. So you want a greyhound, not a purebred greyhound? So I would love a lanky alien look. I like that they look a little spacey. Greyhounds, adorable dogs. Yeah, well, I'll think about it. I think those might be, well, I guess St. Bernard expensive, too.

Mutts are obviously always cheaper. You're going to buy Jason a dog? Well, in this hypothetical comedy scenario. But I'm not going to, yeah, I don't know.

That's a little bit of a, that's a little far for a bit. The idea of him and a greyhound or him and a St. Bernard living together is great. Yeah.

You should just do it. No one should, it's your choice to make. That's true. All right, fine. I won't adopt Jason a dog. I won't forcibly the adoption costs let's go they have deals we got edwin i think he was 75 bucks yeah you can

you can get a real deal if you go into these shelters less than the price of universal studios admission and you get a lifelong friend wow but at universal you get a 15 beer that's fair um which by the way i was wandering around up there last night uh checking out the grinchmas festivities got myself a dufftober fest oh the seasonal which i think i mentioned previously a the the current seasonal uh uh simpsons beer i think in the running for like, could be best theme park beer. Could be like best, not that there's a lot that are made specifically for theme parks, but it's

like, I mean, I like those Harry Potter ones a lot too, but Dufftoberfest is solid and nice and like wintery and toasty and no line at like the Duff Gardens area walked right up. Dufftoberfest completely original theme park Simpsons IP. Is there an episode of Simpsons where they have Dufftoberfest?

Could be on the Duff tour, maybe. I kind of like that. The original Simpsons IP now created in the park. Maybe you could see it in the show. If we tweet at Aljean we can get dufftoberfest into an episode sure yeah it'll be a whole episode probably they're out of ideas obviously yeah yeah whatever they can take yes absolutely so you were up there i mean reading the marketing it definitely feels like the holidays at universal marketing material materials for

orlando and hollywood they're really pushing the Harry Potter Christmas stuff. Grinchmas is still on the websites and all. There's still showtimes, all of that. But they're coming hard with that Harry Potter stuff. Yeah, and it was so crowded. There was a line just to get into the land. Wow. So I didn't give it a shot.

And it was just like, just super crowded up on that upper lot in general. It was kind of a mess. And the main thing that kind of drives people to Grinchmas at night is this tree lighting ceremony that happens every half hour. And this is a zero sight lines experience. It is so impossible to get an angle of this thing because there's just pillars and trees and signs everywhere so there is so much jockeying for space and people standing up on chairs and climbing up on planters and pushing each other out of the way and i i went

and stood up on something to get a view and i thought i had cleared some people behind me, but I had not. So I heard somebody behind me. Excuse me. I turned back. I'm very like, I'm just like, oh, my God, I thought I was not in front. I thought I'd clear you guys. Husband, apologetic wife staring at me like that clerk who wouldn't approve the gay marriages. Staring daggers. So fair.

And in general, everybody's getting bumped and jostled, and nobody, like, they've got to figure out how to meet the demand of the tree lighting ceremony. Not in the spirit of the citizens of Whoville. No, they're so kind. Their hearts grow and grow. And probably have less of a problem in Orlando because they have all of Seuss Landing to decorate

and play around with and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're, like, trying to confine it to this tiny space. All told, I ended up being somewhat present for three separate tree lighting ceremonies. Wow. Wait, they do it multiple times a night? They do it every half hour.

Oh, my God. And then you know what is a little neat, though I didn't make it into Harry Potter? There's certain views where it's in your periphery, so you could see the projections on the castle and the fireworks going off in conjunction with the snowfall in Whoville. So that's kind of fun. That's cool.

I did get pictures of fireworks in the deep background and fake foamy snow in the foreground, which that's fun. So that's always, that's a theme park staple, foam snow. We had foam snow on Disney. Yeah, as we were leaving Disneyland at like 11.30 or something, it was doing that, and the foam smelled like nutmeg. Really?

They made it smell like something? Yeah, it kind of had like a fall, that sort of fall candle-y smell. This seems like a good holiday thing to add to our vernacular of what we like and obsess over fake rocks and foam snow foam nutmeg foams nutmeg foam snow um if you're looking for a holiday present for us not that you have our address or anything just get us a box of nutmeg foam snow that's on j Jason's Amazon wish list. You can just buy him gifts. That and colored lights.

That's one of my favorite colored lights. We were talking to Zack Ryder. We were talking about the Tron coaster, and I was like, I do want to see those colored lights. Yeah, I said me, and I don't know, he was so skeptical about the Tron.

Yeah, but I am a real sucker for colored lights. Colored lights, fake rocks, nut sucker for colored lights. Colored lights, fake rocks, nutmegs, no. Colored lights. Who is the Grinch that doesn't enjoy colored lights,

fun neon lights in the dark? That's the greatest. You got one of those light bulbs that you can, a few years ago, you got a light bulb

that you troll with an app on your phone and you were delighted by it. Yeah, it's great. Any color of the rainbow. You can change it for the season. You can have red and green in Christmas and purple and orange at Halloween.

Yeah. You know. Yeah. What else? What are we going to say? Colored lights, of course. My God. Let's be very clear about this.

We are pro colored lights. If anyone in any of these theme parks is thinking about not decorating for the holidays no one of these years save some money don't do it we need it um okay so what else in my grinchmas excursion you sent a postcard right i did send a postcard i guess here i yeah i can get into that uh so uh one of the things uh one of the activities at Grinchmas is the Whoville Post Office, which has some sort of confusing terms. It isn't a place where you can send a letter to a loved one for the holidays with like a special Grinch stamp or something. It is a, I mean, it's a good thing what it is. It's that you send a postcard to the Grinch, and they give you an address for the Grinch, which is listed as Whoville WV, which I guess is another Whoville.

Like, Whoville, Whoville. Like, it's New York where it's the state. However, there is a state that is WV. It is West Virginia. And there's a zip code listed. So I'm like, so is Whoville in West Virginia? Does How the Grinch Stole Christmas take place in West Virginia? Anyway, you send a postcard to the Grinch.

And by doing so, for every one of these postcards, they make a donation to a different charitable cause every year. This year's School on Wheels, an organization that provides one on one tutoring to homeless children and is the the only organization in Southern California dedicated to educational needs of homeless youth. So it's a nice thing. I think it changes every year. That's a good thing. You just write a fun little postcard and then a donation is made. Good job, Universal. But to do this, you have to write a message to the Grinch himself. And here's what comes before the blanks of this postcard. Dear Mr. Grinch, I grew my heart three sizes this Grinchmas. Here are my good deeds. And then you have

a three-step opportunity to prove that your heart grew via good deeds. And there are three of us, and I thought I should list a good deed for each of us. So I'll post this on Twitter so you can follow along, but here are what

I consider Podcast the Ride's good deeds for this Christmas. Number one, Mike cleared his plate and did not waste one drop of food. Very good, Mike. Thank you. Number two, Jason accepted his time in the penalty box, and thus, he and Nick Mundy tolerate each other. And all they had to do was kick and scream while I was in there. And refuse to

go the second time. Rightfully so. You did your... All of our limits. And number three, Scott kept wine grape growers happily employed and sowed the seeds of tolerance

between hashtag launch queens and hashtag no launch queens true and uh for these three i think all of our hearts grew bigger this year and uh thus uh it's nice universal will make a donation uh based on these deeds so what's the size welcome what's the size of that donation uh 17 cents okay hey everything you annual pass holder discount on a beer everything everything helps yeah

so that was fun I sent a post he sent a postcard I got to see this show where you see the moment where the Grinch flips

where he turns and becomes good you see his heart grow there's a bunch of red lighting that conveys that and then

and then the actual tree lighting thing is impressive and fun. And so that little show is nice. And you get to see some seal faces. You also get to see a beloved character from the film, Mayor Augustus Mayhew. Yes. Mayhew. Let's talk about Mr. Mayor. Uh-oh. uh-oh i i mentioned this on the charity land street that

i wasn't sure you had come across uh i was wondering yeah we just did this thing for defunct land a little this this charity we're very charitable in this christmas season uh uh and the mayor came up and i was wondering if this is who you're talking about yes so i saw uh uh you know a report from from grinchmas uh either last year or two years ago and the uh vlogger spent some time talking to mayor augustus and as i said on this live broadcast as we have learned at this point all other uh theme park based mayors make me furious uh mayor augustus was no uh no exception yeah i think he's reckless i think he is uh not kept if if one person can make christmas go to shit in hooville clearly the mayor has not put precautions in place his mayoral sash has a bunch of medals and stuff on it and i want a full accounting of how he earned all those

medals because if not at best that's stolen valor at worst he is like the hollow figurehead of a banana republic so yeah what what wars are occurring are there like susie and beasts stomping around maybe i don't know maybe he slayed a pack of grinches you want medals for earned distinctions like it being your birthday at disneyland yeah he should have had a birthday button um that would have made more sense yes that's that's fine. Everyone has a birthday. I'm sorry you feel this way. I was also disappointed to hear who played him, who embodied this character in the movie. It was Jeffrey Tambor.

Yeah, yeah. A little kind of creep. Though unrecognizable on some level. Yeah, once you know it. Once you know it. Once you know who's under that snout. But Martha May Juvier, the singer, star of the musical Review at Christmas, played by the great Christine Baranski.

Always happy to see her at work. You know who was not happy to see her, though, was Mrs. Geisel, the widow. Because she had a lot of, like, before the film came out, she made a lot of cuts in the script and said, that American pie stuff has no place in Seuss. So things were offensive to her that were cut from the film. And now she only has one problem with the finished movie, which is, as the article describes, pillowy cleavage of Martha May, who PA. Odd word chosen by this Entertainment Weekly.

By the way, I agree with her Oh boy Button up You'll catch a cold, it's winter This is a child's film I do not care for that Mike is chomping on his emergency graham crackers To keep his temperaments down

His inner humors balanced The theater should at least provide an optional fence that can be put up if the audience votes to not see the pillowy cleavage. No bosom. I will not be subjected to that. Not for the holidays. It's that time of morality. But that's an instance. I don't think Martha is wearing a nose, right?

Because she's got to sing. She's got to have that all clear. I don't know. But in the film, she does Because she's got to sing. She's got to have that all clear. I don't know, but in the film she does. Oh, in the film she does, but at the Grinchmas live review, like quick little musical numbers. And the backup dancers also didn't seem to be covering noses. Hard to sing in snouts. Hard to sing, yeah.

By the way, some of the things that were cut in the, like some sexual innuendos were cut from the movie, but also a sequence about a family that did not have a christmas tree or presence called the who steens um oh really yeah that was a joke in me i mean like probably written by a jewish writer because a couple like seinfeld guys like uncredited wrote on this um oh okay that's funny. Actually, no, I bet there were like, yeah, that's not so bad. And then also that there was a, that on the Grinch's wall was a stuffed head of the cat in the hat. It's kind of fun.

The Grinch murdered the cat. It seems, yeah, a little dark for that movie, but sure. Not too bad. I mean, here's my thing with both Grinchmas as like a theme park event in that movie. And I will say, apparently the theme park event is very popular and it seems like it was packed. Yeah, not any room to breathe, in fact. I can't figure out the tone, like the comedy of it. I don't know.

I think in our comedy, we probably say, I'm not sure what the game of this is. I don't know what the point. It sounds like it is the very vestige of Jim Carrey, wacky. 90s wacky, but for families. Yeah, it's like, well, if there's one thing you can pull from it, it's that the Grinch is rude and cantankerous. I guess that's the meat of it.

And like, I'm going to go meet a guy with a lot of attitude. But real sticky, too. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I highly recommend Universal made some viral vids starring local actors playing the Grinch. And there's one where, especially I liked, where the Grinch reads nice tweets. Kind of an inverse of the Jimmy Kimmel bit.

People have tweeted nice things to the Grinch, and he hates all of them and like mock vomits. And one makes them wakes him so sick that he says like, uh, somebody get me a glass of motor oil filled with broken glass, which I like. I like a rude guy who eats inedible things. Yeah. Shell pie, please.

Uh, dead is stuck stew. Yeah, that's something. Um, give me a, give me a carton of light bulbs already. Jeez. Dead skunk stew. Yeah, that's something. Give me a carton of light bulbs already. Jeez. That voice, by the way, is like, what is it?

Yeah. All these actors have had to learn this voice. I was appraising it as kind of like Jimmy Durante. Yeah. Cha-cha. Yeah. Does he have, has anyone watched an interview with jim carrey like where he says like oh he put jimmy duranty together with uh the mcgruff the crime dog oh it is like mcgruff absolutely when

we're talking mcgruff like it's kind of this but it's a little more like my rocks in the mouth or something i bet mcgruff would also uh mcgruff would probably take a bite out of the cat in the hat. I'll take a bite out of him. Sometimes I gotta take the law into my own hands. That unruly cat was not given

permission to enter by Home Invader Home Invader I just decided now we have to eventually do the Patreon about the

songs that McGruff does that you tipped me off on to a few months ago. Yes. Because I listen to them still a couple times a month. There's a McGruff album is what the songs that mcgruff does that you tipped me off onto a few months ago yes uh because i listen to them still a couple times a month there's a mcgruff album yes what mike's referring to a couple of them yeah i think you told me about one and then i found another one oh wow there's like a pizza hut tie-in a separate mcgruff album and they're all about not doing drugs so we'll do

a patreon only catch your songs good songs yeah i know how to play them now on keyboard particularly well i found out about it from the uh the beyond yacht rock podcast i'm a big fan of and he did there's a mcgruff song that is a like legitimately good attempt at steely dan style oh yeah it is about alcohol abuse is Is it called alcohol? I think so. Alcohol will make you sick. My favorite two are make your body last and inhalants. Don't do inhalants. They'll suffer your brain. And the kids choir and all of them.

I reach for notes. The Steely Dan one has to go high and go, Someday! There's one he, on the inhalants, he's like, When some kids, other kids, are taking drugs, I want you to play. And you can hear the effort in having to go down notes. Play! So get ready for Mike's pitchfork level dissection of McGruff songs.

Oh God, do I love those songs. Podcast to ride classic albums. I played those for Lindsay's mom and sister at Thanksgiving. Like on an instrument? No, no, no, the videos of them. So to go backward, I forget what other episode we mentioned this in. Mr. Bojangles' performance is two of them.

Two different ones. And then the McGruff songs. The McGruff songs. Is what you offered up as. And then the Spider-Man, Turn Off the Dark Letterman performance. So you're just doing like a late night comedy show, like found footage festival for Mike's Twisted Vids. Mike's Twisted Vids.

As I said, I think they had chosen most of the movies. So like it was the last day and they're like, well, I go, well, you want to watch it? I don't care about anything. I go, I just usually watch YouTube videos. And they're like, well, you want to watch it? I don't care about anything. I just usually watch YouTube videos. And they're like, well, what YouTube videos? And I was like, well, here we go. So talk to inhalants.

How'd it go over? They liked inhalants. They thought inhalants is fun. Everyone who I play inhalants for really enjoys it. And everyone at the Thanksgiving festivities dropped the inhalants that they were currently doing.

Wow, Mike, you really taught us a lesson with these songs. Yeah. Where were we? Oh, McGruff sounds like the Grinch. Yeah. Oh, I can't figure out the tone.

The tone of it? Yeah, I don't know. Gruff, but sticky. It is like much more like he's Beetlejuice too, right? In a weird way. Kind of. Yeah. It is like much more like he's Beetlejuice, too, right? In a weird way. Kind of. Yeah.

He's like, but I mean, not. Beetlejuice also eats light bulb salads, I think. He likes grist things. I always, it's weird because the Grinch, another of this, this just came up, too. You have a video that you did, a very funny video, but the Grinch and that song sung by another future Patreon episode. Oh, yes. Thrill Ravenscroft.

Thrill Ravenscroft, who is, as the moon climbs high over the dead oak tree. And then also, you're a bad banana with a crazy black beard. Like they make the Grinch, They're talking about the Grinch. But there isn't a lot of evidence in the original cartoon, and I can't remember about the book, that he truly drinks motor oil and he enjoys all the snail clipping. No, he's just a miser. He lives on the outskirts of town. But he's kind of like a little fancy man.

Like he's not so gross. He's not so grotesque in those things this did fulfill sort of the promise of the grinch song i feel like and make the character much more grotesque and weird and aggressive am i wrong you know what i'm saying yeah yeah because and from the cartoon i was never like oh the grinch i was just like oh that's that kind of like miserly man but it's a big leap that He eats you know that he would Eat a rat fetus

Pizza yeah but they kind of say It in the song of the cartoon Yeah but they don't show you he does No but the song is Is it all why did I I've made that video because there's this weird song It's a type of sauce what is it Um

Oh god why can't I think of it It's like I think it's because there's this weird sauce. It's a type of sauce. What is it? Oh, God, why can't I think of it? It's like, I think it's more, it's comparing him. It's about, you're a rotten egg. Okay, right. Mixed with a Dracula fart. So it's not, yeah, so I guess nothing in the song actually says he eats any of the things. We're just comparing him to the worst stuff. So, okay, so he's standing.

It's not saying that, unless they cut a little side track, which he eats any of the things just comparing him to the worst stuff so okay so yes it's not saying that that unless there's unless they cut a little side track which he eats so then that I guess it makes my point better actually that he's sort of it makes sense that they cast like Cumberbatch as the Grinch even though I saw somebody just post online which was a

good point why wasn't why doesn't Cumberbatch get to use his English accent yeah which he's like uses that boring dr strange why would you hire him to the dr strange voice that sounds like just sojin he's he's got the greatest british voice and he has this dr strange voice and it sounds like the most effort that he possibly can exert and it's like why why wouldn't he just be yeah the fancy not required to be american yeah so why isn't the Grinch just Sherlock, who has such a great evil voice and not this less good American Cumberbatch voice? A snooty guy who doesn't want fun.

By the way, what I was after was arsenic sauce. Oh, right, right. Arsenic sauce. Yeah, arsenic sauce. He does. Now, most of it is, if you take this stuff literally, it is, if you think that the Grinch's brain is actually full of spiders and that he has garlic in his soul, but it is a leap to say that he eats scrambled cockroaches every morning. Right. Like the actors said.

Yeah. So that's the take it's the full like a full like a gross it's gross grinch their take is it's he's gross now that's the difference in the grinch as i feel like because he's gross i'm wondering is it possible because i i don't know if this is in the movie but this is a screen grab from a YouTube video walking around Grinchmas in Florida, I think, and one of the Cooville residents has a shopping bag from Who Mart? Oh, that's good. I like that. And it kind of looks like the Walmart logo.

Do you think he was just kind of put off by the capitalism, by the rampant consumerism of the season, and he's just retreated to mount crumpet to get away from that which uh the jim carrey grinch yeah or any of them i guess they're jim carrey one but that's specifically in the carrie verse is that in the movie who i don't know i'm just saying if it's in the theme park version of grinchmas which is not the illumination then that's in the just in the jim carrey. But I'm saying I don't know if it's in the Jim Carey version or if that's a theme park exclusive IP like we were

talking about. But I'm saying because it's in the Grinchmas which is in the theme parks which is the Jim Carey verse. Oh you're saying it's in that. That's the closest one that it's tied to canonically. I suppose. So I think you have to say then it's in the Jim Carey verse and not the original or the new Illumination.

We also know from the documentary Jim and Andy that Jim Carrey goes method. And you have to wonder if during the production of this film he drank motor oil with broken glass in it every day. The legend, if he did, I feel like we would have heard about it. Yeah. Because he would have talked about it a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He would have been so happy. There'd be a have heard about it. Yeah. Because he would have talked about it a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He would have been so happy. There'd be a full documentary about that.

And that's when I decided the Grinch was going to come back and make his movie. He was inhabited by the Grinch. Isn't there a video like this? Or is there a different Jim Carrey movie that he made a parody? I think there's some mashup.

There's some Grinch-y. Okay. Implying this, essentially. And he really did light fires every time he played Fire Marshall Bill. Those look like fun little, you know, just smoke goes up and he gets charred like a Looney Tune. But he really lit himself on fire every single time. You got to respect it. Yeah.

I have a question uh where does my favorite jim carrey verse character show up in the park and i think the answer is nowhere where does baby grinch show up it's a real lack of baby grinch i noticed that too i want more baby grinch uh merch i want a little doll of it. I was once, I did. Okay. This movie is on Netflix right now. And I did skip to,

I went and braved specifically the baby Grinch scenes. I once again, stand by my assertion that saying that you like the baby Grinch is a, a provocative opinion that cannot possibly be true. I do. I'm looking at it. I'm trying to like analyze what you're saying and to see if I can find it in my soul. You're staring at the hairy

green baby nipple and trying to find how anyone could not like this. I like him. I like him. I think that this might be his favorite. I like him. How? Mike, your brain is full of I like him. I'm taking a picture of this. I think that this might be... Mike and his favorite cheat. Yeah, take your phone over a little. Like this?

How? If we take a photo of it? That's good. Mike, your brain is full of spiders. That's fair, and I'm sure there's many reasons why it's full of spiders, but I think Baby Grinch is good. I've had a year. We've talked... We've...

A year... You've had time to think about this. Nine months, and I've sat on it, and I mean, I get this is a little scarier, this baby Grinch. It's the most scary thing. But, like, this one's good. This picture of him is good. I don't know what that is. I don't know what this is.

Everything you're showing is not good. These are different. Jason, you had my back about the snouts. What do you think of baby Grinch? You like baby Grinch. I kind of like baby grinch i kind of like baby i don't like baby grinch with that like black matte backdrop but like when he's like in his little chair and there's some colored light shined on him look at baby grinch he looks mischievous why are his eyes so big i like it the grinch ends up with

tiny little beady eyes why does when he's a child why does he have big old moons somebody made like a full baby grinch shirt no let's see how much it looks like it's 30 i found this picture i found on inside universal uh here is just a picture without any context of the grinch sticking his head in a garbage can i think this is very funny i like that a lot yeah i laughed at that or eating it's fun and scott i almost texted you to get me the shirt up there from the gift shop it's the grinch and it says king of naughty king of naughty they also have queen of naughty uh-huh if i ever if i show up somewhere and you guys are walking up to me and Jason's wearing a queen of naughty shirt and Mike is wearing a shirt that is just the full face of the baby Grinch, I am turning around and walking away. No questions asked.

I don't care if we're in the front row of a concert and we paid two grand for the tickets. I'm hightailing it. If we're in another Rolling Stones'm i'm walking right away you know we gotta if we can get you a shirt with like jim carrey with half the makeup on and him looking in the in the makeup chair looking a little like oh can you believe this we get you that shirt and mike and i wear our respective shirts and we can rent like a convertible and drive down Sunset Boulevard. We can recreate the entourage

shirts. In a bright green. In a bright green Cadillac convertible. The Grinch guys. They'll be your superhero. This is a scraping the bottom of the barrel podcast,

if there ever was, with the full, all things Grinch, with the Grinch guys. Hey, we may be there sooner than later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember when you said that was a bad idea? Do we still think it is? No. Fine, let's do it. There's those two Grinch shows now on TV,

and there's two Grinch movies a year. Pretty much none of them won't use the song from the cartoon at all, or they'll remix it in a weird way. How did they? Jim Carrey seems like it barely uses the song. I think the song is iconic.

Certainly the Boris Karloff did the narration, and the voice of the Grinch, Thoreau Ravensc the narration and the voice of the Grinch. Ravenscroft did the singing about the Grinch. Well, my friends, I'm glad I almost forgot to bring this up. Maybe they don't make... I mean, for sure, Jim Carrey performs the song and he sings it. You know what I mean?

That does happen. But they had to make room for a whole lot of other songs. The Grinch movie soundtrack has appearances from legitimately some of our favorite artists. Mike, you love Barenaked Ladies. Of course. They do the song Green Christmas. Good song. Good Christmas song. Ben Folds is on there.

Lonely Christmas Eve. That's a decent song, too. The eels are on it. Wow. Really? It's a bizarre soundtrack, but I'm'm not even gonna say the artist of this i'm just gonna play it and i'd like for you to listen to the original song the second song in the soundtrack uh entitled grinch 2000 this is a flip mode squad oh my god flip mode squad.

Busta Rhymes? Mr. Rebel is Hesel. Yes, Busta Rhymes. I can't tell if the other flip mode squad is on it, but yeah, this is a Flipmode Squad Jim Carrey collabo. It's listed as Busta Rhymes and Jim Carrey. Yeah. Wow. Finally.

That's wild. The two, the wackiest characters in their respective mediums. Sure. The clown prince of rap, Busta Rhymes. I do love Busta Rhymes. I haven't listened to that entire song, but I'm excited to learn that they have a collabo. Wow. There's a Smash Mouth song on here I've never heard called

Smash Mouth 2. Better do it right. You got NSYNC, Faith Hill. It's a heavy inner soundtrack. End of the century. End of empire feeling like so much 2000 stuff does. Grinch 2000 was like a bookend of humanity in some way. It's fascinating to me.

It's like doing a whole Scrooge land. Because the Grinch is like Scrooge. He's a curmudgeon that doesn't like Christmas that gets turned around. Has anyone ever done a Scrooge land? The Cranks land. Christmas with the Cranks. Other Scrooges. Yeah.

Yeah. It's time to acknowledge all of the Christmas haters and all Fred Claus land. That also seems like something Universal would do. Just committed to Fred Claus. Walk around Fred Claus still. Did you know that? Oh, yeah, I didn't. Yeah, he just walks around in the New York area and he hassles you. But it's like, oh, that's Fred Claus still. Did you know that? Oh, yeah, I didn't. Yeah, he just walks around in the New York area and like,

he hassles you and, but it's like, oh, that's Fred Claus? I've seen that guy but I didn't realize. He just looks like a man. He's just,

he's just a regular looking guy. Do you guys get the feeling with like Christmas movies, new Christmas movies that aren't like, you know, cookie cutter kind of Hallmark-y

kind of movies because I know people like those and they're, they're fun, fluff. Does it feel like with Christmas movies now, everyone's trying to go like, well, Elf was a hit a dozen years ago. Maybe this could become a classic like Elf,

which I am still surprised that, like, oh, yeah, people apparently really love Elf. Well, movies take, like, the crater, the meteor crater that is left by a single hit movie lasts for so long. We're still watching hangover ripoffs way down the line. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. The hangover influences. Game night is you can draw the line between the R-rated comedy of that.

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Well, that's how, because comedy hits are so rare right if one happens hurry scramble it's all this now yeah it's like the beatles and then the wake of the british invasion and all the other some of those bands are good oh sure well some of the movies that get made turn out to be okay too i'm not saying all of them yeah yeah no that's true yeah there's things that probably happen as a result of Hangover that are fine.

Fish Out of Water Christmas movies? I don't know. Any good ones lately? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if there is. People seem to like that. There's a Netflix one where Kurt Russell plays Santa Claus. Do people like that or is that ironic? I think it's the novelty of like,

oh, look, it's fucking Kurt Russell and he's playing Santa Claus. I like the idea of it. I'll look at a little bit of it. Yeah, yeah. Well, I should say one more thing that I did during my excursion to Whoville, which I have to step away from the mic for.

Let me go grab this thing, fill the space wherever you see fit. All right. I'm going to talk to Jason about eating those pancake sausages again, like we did on the Tokyo episode. So you said three to four a week you would eat of the stick, the pancake sausage on a stick when you were a child? You know, it's hard to feed. You know, you got to feed kids and you got to get them dressed and on the bus to school.

I get it. They're real easy to feed. You know, you got to feed kids and you got to get them dressed and on the bus to school. I get it. They're real easy to microwave. Sure. I mean, my mom would go to what was called Market Day and she would like get a lot of sort of frozen things. There was a thing we would have like chili crispitos. And they were like weird, like they were frozen, but then they were like, I don't know if there were beans in them or rice.

And we all hated them. She would buy them every time. We would just reheat them because it was an easy thing to do. Did your parents have a garage? Yeah. Do you have a separate fridge in there just for soda? No, but my grandmother did. My grandmother had a downstairs soda fridge as well.

All right, Scott is back to modern day snacks. Here we have a Grinch donut. Oh, my goodness. Holy shit shit this is your fourth good deed hey all of our all of our hearts are going to quadruple now look at that uh i i think this looks good i think like visually yeah this is an exciting display and And, hey, I got forks. Dig into the Grinch's face. Oh, my God. This is a treat-heavy episode. I think we're all going to vomit, but we're all going to have our heads in the trash like the Grinch. We can't do this while we're on the air, can we?

I guess we can. People will probably hate that. So, you know, no reason to do that. Imagine we're eating it right now, though, but we'll be eating it after. We are all. I just want to stab right into the Grinch's face. And I think this

makes me feel like when you're looking at this, when you're looking at a delicious... That is a thick layer of green frosting. I think this looks fantastic. And we talk about plus it up and stuff. It's hard to even think about a plus up when you're staring at a dessert of this magnitude.

It looks fine. The only way it would be better is if it was a baby Grinch donut. Sure. This does look fun. And I have to, I do have to give universal credit because I remember when Grinchmas, like 10, 12 years ago, I thought it was all kind of thrown together and a little cheap. It does seem like they have pumped more money into it and uh regardless of that i do think that dr seuss curvy christmas tree does look nice i think that's fun absolutely even if scott did not really get to see it because it's surrounded by

load-bearing pillars people fighting you at every corner um yeah uh you know what? I had a blast. I think it's kind of funny that it's still Jim Carrey Grinch. Another 50 years of this. Why not? Yeah, you know what? And I'm feeling generous. I'm full of duck sausage, and I'll be full of green frosting. The spirit of giving is here. I say, great job, Universal.

Thanks for donating that money. Thanks for Ductoberfest. Hey, I feel great. It's the end of the year. It's the final Podcast the Ride of 2018, and I'm full of holiday spirit. My heart's growing many, many sizes. My heart is growing as well.

Sure. Jason's eyes are growing looking at that donut. It is. And thank you all out there listening. It's been a wonderful 2018. Thank you for all your support and your kind messages. Yes, very nice. Thank you so much.

I don't want to go on about this too much, but since the last one we're recording in 2018, I was thinking about the first one that we recorded in 2018 in Mike's other apartment. Yeah. We had been, we were network orphans. Our network had fallen apart entirely. It was clear that if we were going to keep doing this thing, it was going to be much more inconvenient. Oh, yeah.

It was kind of a pain to do. I don't think we really talked about stopping, but it was like, oh, come on, really. And I think the main thing keeping us going, in my mind, was the fact that, A, it's been very fun to do. But, B, back then there was a little base of people who I knew would be sad if we stopped doing it. And that base has grown like the Grinch's Heart, and I'm so glad we kept it up, because if you think about, like, from that bad 2018 start, this year has been, now we're with Forever Dog, we're wonderful, we launched the second gate, the live show, Tony Baxter, the City Walk Saga, all of this in 2018. Pretty crazy year.

Yeah, really. If you put it all and stack it up like that, yeah, wow. Club 33? We get to go to Club 33? It is pretty crazy. We conquered fears. I wrote down... I'm into haunts now. What's that? I love haunts. Yes! You're a haunt guy. I'm becoming

the launch queen. I'm on my way. Jason had nothing to conquer. I got married and divorced. Why didn't we ever bring that up? We never talked about your brief fail. We don't have time, though. We have to wrap this up and say thank you to everyone.

Wait, I have the number. I want to say the number because I realized between the City Walk Saga and the second gate and the regular show, we in in this year, released 73 episodes. Wow. Mania. Gee whiz. What a jam-packed year. That's wild.

But they were all a blast. They were all great. I had a great time. So many of every single one of them. Perfect. There's no error that could be taken out of a single one of them. Audio quality, pristine. Yes.

Mic cord rustling, non-existent. Didn't have it in your head. We're leaving that in 2018 too. Hey, yeah. We have mic stands now. Look, we were scrambling in the chaos of a network collapsing. You don't have time to

think about getting a stand, but we got it now we're stands for stands and uh i'm using that that hip language now um no really this has been a great 2018 and um uh and you know big stuff coming in in 2019 um such as an episode about McGruff. And I bet we'll do one about that Circle of Life movie in the Land Pavilion. Yep. And that's all the ideas we have. We're very tired. It's been a big year.

We'll figure it out, okay? Don't hold us to the fire. In the meantime, follow us on twitter podcast the ride on instagram podcast the ride join our facebook group uh patreon.com slash podcast the ride your december episodes you got uh the mission tortilla factory you got blizzard beach just released you'll have actually i don't remember what was just released blizzard beat well this will all by the end of december this will all be at and this year you'll know the queen mary of my trip to the queen mary yes and uh now that you know now that we've done

grinchmas and blizzard beach there are no more christmas topics that's it we have run through and even that one blizzard beach is a stretch of a christmas topic right yeah more of a winter topic yeah yeah we gotta be loose with this thing uh um but we've got a lot we got a year now to figure And even that one, Blizzard Beach is a stretch of a Christmas topic. More of a winter topic. Yeah, yeah. We've got to be loose with this thing. But we've got a year now to figure out the next one and a lot of other stuff along the way. It's going to be great. Hey, you survived Podcast the Ride 2018. 73 episodes.

It's hot. We made it. I feel great. It was a great year. Thanks everybody for your support and seriously for making us want to keep doing this. We have so much encouragement. It's nice when people like a thing you're doing. It really is. It changes

everything, doesn't it? Yeah, and hey, Merry Grinchmas to us all. Especially Edwin, who is sleeping on the courts. Merry Grinchmas. Merry Grinchmas, everybody. Hi, guys.

It's Mike here with a quick addendum. So after we finish recording this episode, we got a very interesting email from Universal Studios Hollywood. They wanted to send us to interview a very important Christmas figure. Yes, the Grinch himself. They wanted us to come out and interview the Grinch. And how could we say no? So we said yes. Now, normally we would have sent Jason Sheridan, our cub reporter. But look, it's the holidays. He's already back on the East Coast enjoying the holiday festivities and treats. So it was up to me. So I went up there and I talked to the Grinch.

And look, it got a little controversial in regards to another host on the show. He hasn't heard this yet. So we're going to have to find out his reaction in a couple episodes probably. But you are about to hear my interview with the man himself, the Grinch, the one who stole Christmas. We have video of this too because I'm not going to – it got cut off a little bit is what I'm trying to say with the video. But you can see most of the interview on our Twitter and probably on our Facebook page. It's very good. It's probably the best viewed in a video and not just audio. But also there's a video I met the Grinch's dog, Max. So, look, I was doing a lot of good journalism and good in-depth interviews. And please enjoy this little addendum to the Grinch episode, Mike Carlson's interview with the Grinch.

Hello, Mr. Grinch. I'm here. Yes. Hello. It's a pleasure. A pleasure to meet you, Mr. Grinch. Oh, of course. Thank you for coming.

Thank you. My name is Mike Carlson. I'm from Podcast the Ride. Podcast the Ride? It's a Podcast the Ride. Podcast the Ride? It's a theme park podcast. Like the radio? It's like the radio, but I guess it's worse, probably, because less people hear it. Oh, that's disappointing.

But, I mean, there's a small but very, like, excited fan base. Oh, perfect. So that's good. And they're very excited. 13 people. At least 13 people listen, and they're going to be very excited about this interview. So I just have a few questions for you. What does it mean to you to have a holiday named after you, the Grinch?

Wow. Yeah, well, being a celebrity is really a big responsibility. Having a whole holiday named after me, it fills me with complete disgust. They want to commercialize me, and I do not approve. Do you know, I don't get enough royalties for this. That's a breaking coverage right there. Hey, I understand that. We don't get royalties for a podcast either.

Why do you do it, Mark? It's fun, I guess. It's Mike also. It's okay, though. Okay, Paul, whatever you say. Anything is fine. You know, you seem like you're a bit of a grump sometimes, but have you made any friends here at Universal Studios,

like with the famous Universal characters like Transformers or Lucille Ball? I don't know what you're talking about, Peter. What I make friends with is who I already have, my friend Max. Have you met Max yet? I have not met Max. I'm excited to. He's just sitting there. You don't need another friend, man.

All you need is man's best friend. His dog. And possibly Mother May. Wow. Yes, yes. Woo! I'm very excited to meet all the people from Whoville. Mother May, too?

Look, she's taken, man. Back up. Okay, well, I wasn't actually. There's no, like, sort of thing I was. There's not a thing between us or anything. Yeah, I know, because she's with me. This guy. Okay, well, I just want to say, yes, you guys have a good time. I won't even talk to her, you know? I won't even...

I would appreciate that. Yeah. Thank you so much, James. So, yeah, as far as, like, just being here at Universal, have you made it out to City Walk or anything, or are you just kind of stuck here talking to folks all day? Have you not seen the chain around my ankle? No, I can't go anywhere. They don't let me go ten feet out of this space. Okay,

well, that... No, I haven't been anywhere else. Okay. I me go 10 feet out of this space. Okay. No, I haven't been anywhere else. Okay. I know. It's so disappointing. There's a great Margaritaville restaurant that if you get done with Grinchmas, I think you should go. Hey, explain to me of Margaritaville. What is this? Is this a town?

Well, it is. It's kind of a place. It's a state of mind, really. But it's a restaurant where you can have a margarita and like a wet burrito or something. It's very delicious. You should try it. A wet burrito. Sounds sloppy and delicious. Right should try it. A wet burrito. Sounds sloppy and delicious.

Right up my alley. Yeah, so when you're done, maybe we'll all go and get one after this. Ooh, are you inviting me? I am, yes. All right, we have to devise an escape plan to get me out of here. Yeah, well, I'll figure it out after this.

Thanks, man. And just to wrap up real quick, on our podcast, we often have a debate about the Grinch and specifically you as a baby. There are a lot of pictures of you online and it's very cute. Like, I think you're cute. I think you were a cute.

Yes, I am cute. Yes, I agree with that statement. Okay, so basically I just want you to solve the problem. Are you cute? I think yes. Baby Grinch is very cute. Well, who's... All right, I want the names.

List them out for me. Who thinks I'm not cute? Well, my co-host Scott Gairner says Baby Grinch isn't so cute, and I disagree with him. Oh, okay. Where's a baby picture of Scott? Because I bet he's not that cute either. Oh. Well, look, next year I will bring Scott's baby picture, and I'll show it to you.

What do you think of the baby picture? I think he's cute, too. I think you and Scott as babies are cute. Oh, so just a general, oh, baby's a cute thing? Yeah, I like babies. Thank you so much, Mr. Grinch. Oh, thank you. We say at the end of a podcast, you, Mr. Grinch, you've just survived Podcast the Ride.

Hooray! Wait, did you want me to say that? Oh, you could say it, too. Yeah, let's do that. You've just survived Podcast The Ride. Pretty good. Thank you so much. Pretty good.

That was fantastic. Amazing. That's what I meant to say. Thank you, Mike. Thank you. It was a pleasure. A pleasure. Oh, I love your padded coat.

Oh, thank you. I like your coat too. Yeah. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog.