Podcast: The Ride - Grizzly River Run with Mary Holland

Episode Date: September 27, 2019

Mary Holland (Wild Horses, Robbie) joins us to discuss this California Adventure opening day attraction, the splendor of the outdoors, and J. Audubon Woodlore. Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on ...Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus Chicago Live Show Tickets: https://chicagoimprovproductions.ticketspice.com/chicago-podcast-festival-presents-podcast-the-ride Orlando Live Show Tickets: https://www.sakcomedylab.com/shows/3341 David Copperfield episode available at The Second Gate: patreon.com/podcasttheride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FOREVER! DOG! a bear-themed land containing no bears. It's Grizzly River Run on Podcast The Ride, the theme park podcast hosted by three men who have not signed up for Disney Plus yet, but would do it immediately if they announced a show based on an anthropomorphic river rapid that lives in Grizzly River Run. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. So wait, if a rapid is anthropomorphic that's just like a splash yeah well it's a piece of the river is in my mind so it's like it has a face and two eyeballs okay so he's rapid a single rapid single rapid all right but it's like he's plucky and you know you root for him he's and he's friends or enemies or enemies maybe
Starting point is 00:01:25 with a different rapid with the other many rapids i guess yeah obviously like we're gonna explore his relationship with the other rapids that's scott garner talking do extreme sports in me but don't fill me with garbage that's how that's you that's by the way you do the voice for the show Hey What's his name like Rivvy or something It was your pitch Yeah well I'm just saying we're all working on it now We're all in this together Actually future guest of the show Danny Jelenic and I Were working on an idea about a bunch of
Starting point is 00:01:58 Alive waves Called wavies So it's the same idea We haven't picked that idea up in a while Wow it's the same idea We idea up in a while but uh wow it's the same idea yeah yeah yeah we can we can shift it over to being rapid ease yeah well let's bring our guest in to pitch on this great idea uh you know or she well she's from coming in the show is coming out on comedy central she's coming she's going to be on tv soon it's a comedy central show called robbie
Starting point is 00:02:22 uh she's here to talk about bears and water. It's Mary Holland. Hello. Hello. You know me from the future. I always say you know me from and then I was like, no, it's a future credit. Wow. Horses, you see bees. That's true. Yes. I'm around, folks.
Starting point is 00:02:41 You didn't just step off the bus. No, no, no, no. Like 11 years ago Oh boy yeah I've been Oh I've been just chugging along For a long time And a mess So many Google results
Starting point is 00:02:52 In the meantime That's right Everyone can check it out I love this writer's room That I'm stepping into Yeah Where we're pitching on this idea Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:01 What do you think The Rapids name should be? I think it should be Grizzly Okay Grizzly the Rapid Yeah But is grizzly Okay grizzly the rapid But is grizzly sort of playing against the type Because I feel like it's maybe a meek rapid Yeah yeah Oh yeah it's not
Starting point is 00:03:15 It's not like a crazy you know No it's not like White water rapid you know It's like when a little character is called Yeah or like Yeah it's a teeny tiny yeah it's a tiny little rapid It's like when a little character Is called Yeah Or like Big Joe or something Yeah it's a teeny tiny Yeah it's a tiny little rapid
Starting point is 00:03:27 It's making up for the lack Of aggression Yeah Yeah when he was in the Rapid high school And like the jocks Would be like Come on grizzly
Starting point is 00:03:34 And they would say it all sarcastic But now he sort of wears it As a badge of honor That's right Yeah He's embraced it Yeah That's pretty good
Starting point is 00:03:41 I like that Take the power back So we would sign up For Disney Plus If this show would exist So Just throwing it out it yeah that's pretty good i like that take the power back so we would sign up for disney plus if this show would exist so does it wrap it out uh does it have to be like so i picture it sort of like mid peak like it's bubbling it's like in the middle of it's foaming up and at its height so because how can a rapid exist when it's not in the middle of a splash? It's a very good question. It's a question we're facing on wavies as well.
Starting point is 00:04:08 So I'm just... Should we outsource this question to your listeners? How we would be able to the distinction between just the normal water and the characters that are water? Because the water itself might not be. The rapid is... Right.
Starting point is 00:04:23 The rapid is a talking thinking thing, but the water is what the rapid lives in, even though they are both water. Yeah. Sometimes there's a little rapid. Like, sometimes... That's what, like, the ones that surprise people. Like, you went past the waterfall, and then there's a little splash, and that's when you actually get wet.
Starting point is 00:04:43 But it's like a little trick. So... Yeah, it's a little trick. It's a little trick. Yeah, it's just a trick. It's a little splash and that's when you actually get wet but it's like a little trick so it's a little trick it's a little trick so the character water tricks rapids are water tricks uh so that i guess that makes them all mischievous yes yes they're yes they're up to hijinks a lot are sneaking behind like they're trying to hide in a place where you wouldn't know a big splash was coming. Maybe it's just that they're like darker blue. The water's lighter blue and they're darker blue. Or they're lighter.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Because they're like white. They're white water rapids. Oh, good point. Yeah. That might set them apart from the blue. So this room, we're here for eight hours Is that right? Yes
Starting point is 00:05:26 For today Okay This room is lasting Okay Yeah yeah We just want to make sure You've signed a free contract To develop a Disney series
Starting point is 00:05:34 By realizing it That is the future For sure Like Yeah A podcast And they're just like Well we own everything
Starting point is 00:05:40 You said today Yeah That's it That's true Oh god Yes you're right Keep all my brilliant ideas To myself Yeah Just like, well, we own everything you said today. Yeah, that's true. Oh, God. Yes, you're right. Keep all my brilliant ideas to myself.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah, we should no longer. That's why you haven't heard any brilliant ideas yet. It's because I'm just aware that you guys will claim ownership. Oh, yeah. Keep it flat. You can say stuff, but just, you know. Keep it super mundane and flat. The Rapids ride exists. That's your observation today.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Don't ascend to brilliance. Any joke you were to say today, you would catch like you would hear from somebody else like we were using them like out on the town. Out on the town. We were just to entertain in a bar. If anybody uses any more of my jokes out on the town, I'm going to flip my lid. Yeah. People are just out on the town. I'm going to flip my lid. Yeah. People are just out on the town all the time using my jokes. Yeah. That's so
Starting point is 00:06:30 funny. Walking across a bridge, hailing a cab. Yeah, yeah. Hailing a cab with one of your jokes. Yeah, just running errands with my jokes. They're for fun, not for commerce. I don't like the thought of it. Alright, well let's, we're going to talk about Grizzly River Run today.
Starting point is 00:06:46 You were talking about California Adventure in general. Let's just get your feelings in the theme parks, Disney, all of it. Where do you start with all this stuff? I am pro all of it. Good.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Great. I love them so much. I remember my first Disney experience when I was four years old, I had severe asthma. And so my, um, my mother had to stay in the hotel with me for the most part.
Starting point is 00:07:18 But there were a few days when I was, um, in good enough health where I could go out into the park with, with the rest of my family. And I had never experienced anything like it. It was life-changing, truly. It was magical. I remember I had a real breakdown
Starting point is 00:07:36 heading into, it's a small world after all. I still like, I can almost remember the smell of like the building that that I don't even know if it's a building actually but you like the line going into where you get into the boats that then go into this dark tunnel I remember that the I saw people getting in boats and going into darkness and I lost my damn mind I mean i really like it's like the worst tantrum you can imagine a child having i was having i was like flailing my body around i was screaming i was crying and my poor mother i mean i don't know how they didn't weren't just like let's get the hell
Starting point is 00:08:19 out of here um but they event we got onto the boat i was freaking out we went into the darkness and then i was like this is great i was like having the best time um anyway but that could have been a cave that could have there could have been just like big knives slicing you up you didn't know what the hell exactly this was in florida right yes yeah the small world where you get in in florida is an enclosed building but it's kind of outside right it's got very high ceilings and it does kind of trap that theme park water smell more claustrophobic yes i remember the smell of it for sure um that's why and uh the yeah so so that is a very distinct first memory i have of an amusement park but i i love them all so much. I try to go at least once a year, more if I can swing it.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And yeah, I just think it's perfect. I think everything about it is perfect, except for the prices. And except for the line. I'm sure you guys have talked about that. In some cases, the food. Sometimes the food. Sometimes the food. Often the food is very good.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Yeah. You got to pick right right, you gotta do your research And that's a perk of California Adventure I think is that Good food You can get drinks It's like, I think California Adventure Is a Nice, sweet spot
Starting point is 00:09:42 Where it's still Disney feeling There's still like Disney-esque-ness to it, but it's also got an adult tinge to it that's like, ooh, this is sort of an in-between of like, we're just out in the world and we're at a theme park. You know what I mean? It's got a leisurely, there's not a million rides.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. I mean, there was got a leisurely pit. There's not a million rides. Yeah. I mean, there was hardly any when it first opened. This Grizzly River Run was an opening day attraction February 18th. What a transition. I know. Oh, gee. Thank you. I've seen it over the years, though.
Starting point is 00:10:19 There's really, this ride, I think, is the first thing that worked really well. It's like the thing that's had the least changes. like that whole this whole area i think was off to the races the rapids or the rapids zone and uh soren right by it yes uh separate but relate and now like part of the same district but if you went to california venture and just went off to the right and did all that and then had to leave you would think this is a great park. Yeah. And I love that they've embraced the sort of national park feel to it all. Yes. And they
Starting point is 00:10:51 have that Rambler out there, which is I think my favorite car I've ever seen. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? The car that's like parked outside. Of Soarin'. Of Soarin', yeah. It's like a cross. It's like geared up for like a camping road trip or whatever in the 70s. And it's got like a canoe on it.
Starting point is 00:11:09 And it's got all this like binoculars and cameras and maps and everything inside the car. It's just, it evokes this like, oh, we're like, we're in a national park. It's just got that feel to it. Sure. It's really Special And it smells Different in there I'm only talking
Starting point is 00:11:28 About smells But I feel like California Adventure Smells different Than Disneyland Even though they're They're like They share
Starting point is 00:11:34 The same like Is there a specific Area of smell That you think Is the best In California Adventure I would I mean honestly
Starting point is 00:11:43 All around that area Yeah Is my favorite pine yes pumping like pine and smells like woods it smells like the forest right yeah it's like aged so well because the trees have all grown out like they're all saplings when they were planted now it's been 18 years so they're starting to fill out right and with the hotel in the background the hotel always looked good but like as they've like gussied up this area it just looks nicer and nicer have you guys ever been in that hotel i've stayed a couple times you have yeah
Starting point is 00:12:11 i'm so jealous i've only been in the lobby and have just salivated over it oh just yeah it's in that lobby for you could do it anytime you want just go down there just go down to that lobby because it is special yeah yeah a couple of us may have done some work in there that lobby like writing oh yeah yeah oh you may have that's how weird we are that's so great it's so um yeah it's a really warm inviting space yeah it's very tall it's meant to uh it's like like they're they're going for like an indoor tree vibe i think you're supposed to be like at the bottom of a redwood forest and uh i love the tiffany lamps too the sort of yeah that those lamps great choice by whoever designed that interior
Starting point is 00:12:59 yeah that is a very strong component i got a tiffany lamp at home. I'm very proud of my Tiffany lamp. We have Tiffany lamp night lamps. Night lamp. Night lamps, you know. For night. Lamps you only use at night. Not night yet. Turn it off. I love them too. I love them. It's just such a nice glow.
Starting point is 00:13:20 What is so... Those thick little frames you're putting on about Tiffany lamps. There's a husk in your in here i'm also very fond of like the uh yeah i know i've never the most amorous voice i've ever heard oh yeah i've never been so breathy the arts and crafts style of all of this Right Like the hotel and that whole area Yes Has again aged so well Like I feel like that never really goes out of fashion
Starting point is 00:13:50 I agree They say on that tram On the tram from Mickey and Friends They're always like it's based on the arts and crafts movement Yes California Which I always thought like what is that? What is the arts and crafts movement?
Starting point is 00:14:01 Very odd fact I think it was It was the arts and crafts movement in the early 20th century, I believe. You don't know what you're talking about. Craftsman style goods. Oh, right. Craftsman houses. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I always pictured it like people with like popsicle sticks and glue. Like arts and crafts is what I think of that in like a child's project. Sure. That's what the modern terms mean but it came about as a response to machine produced goods.
Starting point is 00:14:30 It was a response to that of people making stuff more by hand. Now that's information. Oh. Now that's information.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah. Now that I like. Maybe that's the thing with the Tiffany lamps is that they're clearly like hand set and the patterns are random. They aren't just they aren't pumped out by some lamp machine right right yeah that's why the breathiness that's why i'm attracted to them people made them with their
Starting point is 00:14:56 hands yeah you see i'm lovingly caressed i don't think we've ever talked about tiffany lamps on here before i know what you're talking about i don't think we have We don't have any But I like them I don't know that it's the same style But also I was always very fond of the lamp work In any 80s pizza hut Yes And those are Tiffany lamps
Starting point is 00:15:15 They are Tiffany lamps Yes Because it's like stained glass basically Is what it looks like with a Ice cream parlors too Yes I used to have Some of those Well that Ferrell's style
Starting point is 00:15:26 The original Ferrell's Yes Not the weird Like failed Comeback Ferrell's But yeah Old TGI Fridays I think had a cool
Starting point is 00:15:33 Vibe as well Mary did you ever Have a Pizza Hut buffet Where you came from Where your hometown Yeah we had a Pizza Hut Buffet though Specifically
Starting point is 00:15:41 I Cause we Is that a different chain No it's the chain no it's just they have a buffet it's just at lunch they would just set a bunch of pieces out yes we did have okay because we've talked a little bit about that and i want to get deeper into that eventually on the show yeah that's a topic you gotta do a deep dive on it podcast deep dish pizza did used to be kind of a themed experience like i do remember going and it was like a thing to do yeah yeah and you can still see those huts but they're usually banks now
Starting point is 00:16:15 they're banks there's those big those odd tall roofs spotting this country and no longer delivering pizza anymore yeah it's a bummer It is a real bummer What's happened to this nation Falling apart First the pizza huts I'll vote for any primary Candidate who vows to bring back the pizza Buffet sit down
Starting point is 00:16:38 Pizza huts Tiffany Lamps Pro lamp can't pro Tiffany lamp candidate Yeah so You were you were you were your east coast Lamps. Tiffany Lamps. Pro lamp candidate. Pro Tiffany lamp candidate. Yeah. So. You were.
Starting point is 00:16:48 You were. Wait. You're East Coast. So you were at Disney World. Yes. As a kid. Yes. That's right.
Starting point is 00:16:53 You know what? Really quickly. But this is a tangent. But this is a themed thing. You worked in my hometown. I did. Is my recollection. That's right. At a very highly themed place
Starting point is 00:17:05 Called Medieval Times Oh baby Oh So let's do Oka Schomburg had a Medieval Times Yes And I worked Okay
Starting point is 00:17:11 I worked there Yeah Whoa So could we do a little side Side jaunt I was thrilled To dig in Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:18 To that Cause we We also four dough boys We all went on a little Yes that's right Group a little while Like a year ago. And you knew someone who was working there.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I knew, get this, the Lord Chancellor. Oh. Hold on to your pants. Hold on to your shoes. He was the Lord Chancellor at the Schoenberg. Right. And he transferred to Brandon Park. And he, yes. at the schoenberg uh right and he transferred to brandon park and he yes and he transferred there
Starting point is 00:17:46 and um i was working was wanting to i feel like he was living in when i talked to him years and years ago when he first started working at the um the one down here he was saying that he lived in west hollywood and i was wow, that's a commute. But nothing compared to the commute I did in Illinois. What was that? Were you living in Rockford or something? I was living in DeKalb. DeKalb, yeah. It was 100 miles round
Starting point is 00:18:16 trip. And I did that commute because, and this is how much I love medieval times. I did that commute every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday for $6.50 an hour. did that commute because and this is how much i love medieval times i did that commute every friday saturday and sunday and for 650 an hour to get paid 650 an hour which i never made um how do you make commissions well i was a photography wench and you have to sell you i feel like they've the in California has like, or what park is it in?
Starting point is 00:18:50 Not Anaheim. Buena Park. Buena Park. Buena Park, yes. I feel like they do it a little bit different. But how it was in Schaumburg at the time I worked there, what we did was people would come in and they would be like, okay, get in front of this backdrop and hold up your table number and that was truly just so we could once the pictures were printed find them in the arena and then try to sell them the picture but the pictures were so bad it was like it would
Starting point is 00:19:16 be like you come in we would get the top of your shoulders your head a picture of your table number which is like why do you want a memory of that and then seven feet of backdrop above you like it was of just blue sky like it was uh that's all it is not like some more nate uh tapestry no no um sky yeah fake sky and like there's stuff on the edges but like it like no one knew no one was a professional photographer um oh i say that maybe someone was but uh you were not i was definitely not and so i would like uh you know and they we were encouraged to sort of have you know british accents and so uh you know i embrace that so i was like my lords my ladies i'd like lead people in and and like have them take their picture and
Starting point is 00:20:04 then right this way enjoy your turn some sort of weird accent and then they would all go into the arena and we would go up to the to the like our lab or whatever and they would print out all the pictures and they'd print like one that we'd put in the frames and then print one we put in the keychain and and you make a little packet and then you get loaded up with packets and then over the course of the show you would like uh like you'd have a little flashlight and i'd be like okay i'm looking for this guy he's wearing a red shirt and they're in the blue section row three and so i just sort of walk along like you see the you know the people working there sort of weaving their way in and around so we i just looked till i find that person and then I'd come up to them and be like, $20 for this?
Starting point is 00:20:46 And some people would buy it. But if they didn't buy it, would you then just throw all these printed pictures in the garbage? Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Well, if they didn't buy it in the arena, they have one more chance after the show is over. We like had a booth or a little section set up where we displayed
Starting point is 00:21:02 all the pictures and then they could come buy them after the show on their way out if they decided to but um but yeah uh and so i would do that commute 50 miles each way and i would not take any of the freeways in illinois i would only take state roads like through the back because and i would listen to the lord of the rings soundtrack every time i was deep in it every time because it like got me in the mode of like oh i'm medieval you know it was really crazy to get into character wow
Starting point is 00:21:40 we're saying he is your picture yes i well I just loved the whole vibe of it so much. I'm very into atmosphere. Like, I'm really into that. And that's, I think, why I love amusement parks so much is that you get to just walk into, you can believe that you're in a whole other world. You're like, you're just entrenched in this atmosphere. And also, Illinois is quite beautiful. So, you didn't mind taking these roads. The countryside of Illinois is quite beautiful so you're the countryside of illinois
Starting point is 00:22:06 i did i chose it was right yeah i liked it how off how many people on average would buy the photo like pretty percentage wise sure yeah well the thing is is i think like because we worked on commissions i remember there was one guy who was in our department who every night would sell like $300. He would get $300 in commission or something. Wow. He would go out with a massive armful of packets and would sell them all. And I would maybe sell one. On average, I feel like my success rate was maybe I would get two or three a night and he would just sell hundreds.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I don't know how he did it. But I think I also, I didn't, I sort of didn't believe in the pictures. Like I was like, I was like, this is. Well, you were just a simple scullery maid. You were not committed. I was like, this is... Well, you were just a simple scullery maid. You were not committed. I was not committed. And I also felt like... You had the consumption.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I wanted to advise the person, don't buy this. Right. Why are you spending your money on this terrible picture? I'll take a picture of you right now that's like much better and like more dynamic than this. You can just turn an hour and you can get it for free, friend. Exactly. Did you ever do another job or were you just The photography wench
Starting point is 00:23:28 I was just a photography wench I just did it for a summer Cause then I had to go Back College started again into Calvin I couldn't do that Commute when I was once that started It was over the summer that I worked there But Do you ever buy those pictures now
Starting point is 00:23:44 At restaurants or medieval times type places because you take pity on your past self? I think we bought the one when we went with Doughboys. I think we bought that one. Maybe. It's a nod to your past. Yeah. I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:03 But my dream was to be in the show My dream was to be At the time The princess But now they have a queen Yes Oh Yeah that's good
Starting point is 00:24:12 So Do you think You would make the It's less It's a less of a Commute for you Honestly I would
Starting point is 00:24:19 Drop everything If they offered me The role of queen I would drop everything Let's see I mean Including My current relationship Just kidding Matt would drop everything. If they offered me the role of queen, I would drop everything. Let's see. I mean, including my current relationship.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Just kidding, Matt. Just kidding. For any excuse, it sounds like. I got a job I can't. If they offer me something, a pirate's dinner adventure, I'll take it too.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I've never been there. I hear that's very fun. Yes, it is fun. So listeners, if anyone has a connection to Medieval Times, email us, offer the job to Maryary and we'll see what happens we'll see what happens you are offer only at this point exactly i am offer only you do things when it
Starting point is 00:24:55 comes to medieval times i'm not from i do like the idea of them putting out offers like a like a movie or show with um they should honestly like should. Honestly, like, I think there's enough weird... The current rate of things, the way things are going. I also think it'd be smart for like if, you know, Pirates of Dinner Adventure is like,
Starting point is 00:25:11 we want Paul F. Tompkins for seven weeks. Oh my gosh. We need like a novelty, like let's get a star in here. Walking Phoenix. Oh man. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Who would have to like commit and be a method pirate chancellor for tips gravelly talking about bring out the shrimp kebabs like exactly like the kind of unhinged freddie quill the master like sort of voice like uh yeah this is gonna but he's gonna like this is gonna be bad for all the medieval incels out there they're all gonna act up yeah it's true in the wake of this performance that is how uh uh tuned in i am uh pulling a master reference when this podcast will come out right around the joker movie i forgot oh yeah the joker yes yeah yeah timed that beautifully we'll all know we'll know when it happens um uh yeah any any uh final like what was the was there a great day at medieval
Starting point is 00:26:18 times was there a weird day or was it always the same pictures and yeah i mean it was but i i guess my whole vibe that i didn't really hang out with anybody because i had to drive 50 miles i didn't like get to know anybody really that i worked with i sort of was like on my own journey with medieval times like i'd show up and then once the show started and i was selling the pictures i was really just enjoying the show and again the smell i love the smell of medieval times um and just being in that world and and like the lights and the sound i i just sort of i almost treated it like i was i was getting to go to medieval times every night was how it felt to me that's fun it's nice and then and that's probably why i didn't sell any pictures did you ever get any local illinois so like the rob blagojevich and family ever come in
Starting point is 00:27:10 or i bet he did i know i not that i know of but i also i didn't have the finger on the pulse nobody really talked to me honestly yeah yeah it was uh like dennis rodman didn't come in one day He did No he didn't Not that I know of Not that I interacted with Yeah it was But it was a great It was great
Starting point is 00:27:36 I really loved it Yeah That's wild So like Schomburg Did you go You were there I honestly think I went once or twice In the whole time I was
Starting point is 00:27:46 living there which was many years of my life uh I also saw an independent wrestling show at medieval times they just held a separate thing at medieval times what in the dirt yep they rented it out I saw Tatanka wrestle a former WWE 90s wrestler Tatankaanka. Wow. Wow. That's cool. Wrestling obviously is cooler, but I like it when... My dream is that they hold like a religious service in there. That there's a mass at medieval times. Honestly, I don't... It felt like they were renting it out, so that may have happened. I don't know that to be a fact, but it may have happened.
Starting point is 00:28:23 It's a big space with seats seats so you got to do something with it when they're not being said it's actually real close to a mega church called willow creek which honestly we should do on the show too because it has like a massive yeah it's a massive budgeted like big production christmas show type place really animals oh i don't know about animals we had one in laster. There's a place called the Sight and Sound Theater, and they would do the Christmas story with live animals.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Wow. Willow Creek is like a mega church, and it's right by Medieval Times, so maybe they didn't want to infringe on Willow Creek. But anyway, we'll look into that. And other Medieval Times could consider religious services. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Sure. Yeah. We could rent the Buena Park medieval times out for a religious service. Oh, we should. We have so many religious services we've been wanting to do. So many ideas. So many mass ideas. So many psalms.
Starting point is 00:29:19 We will never get ready. The pastors are the new gods. We are the prophets now. Jason says he's rubbing his hands together. He's literally rubbing his hands together like an evil genius. Were you putting cream on or something?
Starting point is 00:29:35 No. Cream. I don't know. Hand cream. Cream's up before the show. Absolutely creaming while recording. Oh, Jesus. Creaming up. Even Edwin's sick of this edwin does look like he's rolling his eyes a lot of the time
Starting point is 00:29:53 he gets it uh all right so let's go back to the forest let's jump we're back in the forest to the west are you a fan of national parks i was wondering like does that make you did that make you like especially have affinity for this area i am a fan of national parks um and i yeah i love yosemite i've only been a handful of times but i i really i just love that sort of immersion in um in nature that's so uh so overwhelmingly big like there's something about california national parks in particular i guess i haven't been to that many outside of california but um like i'm thinking of the redwoods and the Sequoias, like where there's like, it's just so massive and overwhelming and, and all these, like the big boulders and the big waterfalls, all of that is just very soothing to me for some reason.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Yeah. It feels like intimate, intimate. That's not the word. Infinite. Yes. It feels like it goes like a Joshua tree or something. It's like,
Starting point is 00:31:02 it goes on literally forever. It feels like, and it always changes my perspective like it always and there's something about stepping into that area of california adventure that gives me a little bit of that where i'm like oh yeah there's this whole other world out there sure yeah theme park well and there's this weird and talking about this being the first area that worked with California Adventure, the idea of like encapsulating the California experience in one little place. Some of that is inherently silly because Hollywood, you can go to real Hollywood up the road and that's all kind of stupid. Like Hollywood tourism's all cheesy and shouldn't be recreated really.
Starting point is 00:31:41 And then like a seaside amusement park like that area has gotten a lot more charming it feels more like the 20s 30s now but when it opened it was just kind of like chintzy carnival blah so so the national parks felt like the only thing that they were like recreating that felt elevated and where they did it justice like they actually did get some of the national park vibe that's how i feel much smaller and even the route 66 like over by cars land and everything like the radiator springs and all of that like it i feel like they really did it right where you you it does feel very california that like ties it all together in a nice way now there's multiple types of national parks there's the more yeah red rock type and then the more pine tree redwood sort of vibe and a large
Starting point is 00:32:27 hotel in the background like i haven't really gone to any of the california state or national parks but i do like the appeal of like and there's a really nice hotel in the middle yeah these crazy old lodges the lodges yeah because we didn't really have those in Pennsylvania. Like, the state parks were perfectly nice and we would camp in them and all. Right. But there wasn't, like, an 80-year-old, like, you know, luxury hotel in it. Sure. Yeah. Places are nuts.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Like, the Shining Hotel, but not scary. You would, like, I, from what you were saying, I was thinking you wanted, like, a hotel just right in the middle of Joshua Tree National Park. Like, a massive lodge lodge just in dead center yeah there's not really any lodge i the desert landscape the all the hotels and stuff are pretty flat like yeah there's not three or four stories maximum but like where the trees are taller where the cliffs are taller you make the buildings joshua tree though there should be like a rock the a fake rock hotel that's a great idea we talk a lot about on the show about fake rocks how much we love fake rocks i love fake rocks what what is that we're not exactly sure we did a whole bracket a tournament to determine what the best fake rocks were and sadly
Starting point is 00:33:42 did not win sorry to tell you grizzly Peak Did not win Sorry to tell you Grizzly Peak Didn't win Great Good fake rocks though Radiator Springs area Ornament Valley won
Starting point is 00:33:52 Incredible So But yeah So there should be Like a big fake rock hotel That looks like They just sort of Carved a hotel
Starting point is 00:33:59 Out of a Bunch of big rocks Yeah That'd be great Yeah They should do that So maybe that's a land Upcoming land To actually stay In fake rocks To stay in fake rocks Bunch of big rocks. Yeah. That'd be great. Yeah. They should do that. So maybe that's a land, upcoming land.
Starting point is 00:34:06 To actually stay in fake rocks. To stay in fake rocks. That's actually the next level of our fake rock love. Yeah. Is to actually sleep inside one. In the Madonna Inn. I was just going to say Madonna Inn. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:18 There's a lot of rock work around. I'm not even sure they're fake. I think there's a lot of real rocks around. Yeah, maybe they are. But you can go, at least in the men's restroom, you can go just pee into rocks oh yeah we did that yeah your dream we did that around the same time like at the same time i think when we were there we were there for a wedding oh okay yeah um and it was weird that whole i'll be honest with you i didn't care for it you didn't care for the madonna in was weird no No, no, not the Madonna Inn. What? No, the bathroom. Specifically just the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:34:45 It was weird. It felt like peeing into an open shower or something. Yeah, yes, that's true. It didn't feel like a lush waterfall. It felt like a leaky pipe. It felt like there was a big shower in a high school gym and we were just pissing in it. Yeah. And there was like light rocks. rocks and look i love doing everything around
Starting point is 00:35:07 grab ass and the locker room if you know me i love around yeah that's the thing a real towel snapper grab ass jason also has been working as a high school gym coach on the weekend so yeah that's why he's got that terminology In his head I love telling everyone to try their best I love picking the scrawniest nerdiest guys And saying come on Come on Pick it up
Starting point is 00:35:35 God that's all you say I'm just doing what I learned You can't compliment them on being strong or fast No that's true You don't want to lie being strong or fast. No, that's true. That's true. You don't want to lie to them. You don't want to lie. Yeah, a good coach doesn't lie.
Starting point is 00:35:49 So that's a no on the drip drop of Madonna. Yeah, well, I'm sorry to tell you, Grizzly Peak didn't fare that well in the final four. One of the issues, at least that I had, I might have poisoned the water, is that I've felt a lot of confusion about whether the even though we if you know it's called grizzly peak then you know that the big rock is supposed to be a bear yes but i've heard confusion over is is it in fact supposed to
Starting point is 00:36:17 be a coyote or a wolf or a wolf and this is compounded further by the story behind Grizzly Peak, the mountain. Right on. Amazing. Yeah. Amazing transition. That was gorgeous, Jason. The legend of Grizzly Peak. Long ago, Aha Le, the coyote, met Usumati, the grizzly bear on top of the mountain.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Seeing the grizzly was powerful, the coyote asked him to watch over and protect the land. Then one day people came and tried to chase Usumati from the mountain, but grizzly was strong and held his ground. When the coyote saw the brave bear standing alone against so many, he turned Usumati into stone so that he could never be driven away. That almost made me cry. Yes. When you said, when you saw the brave bear, I'm gonna cry. The idea of a brave
Starting point is 00:37:14 bear. I don't know why that's making me so emotional. I think brave applied to an animal is just really nice. I know. Yeah. Brave dog. We can take a minute if you nice. I know. Yeah. With a brave dog. Mm-hmm. We can take a minute if you need.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I need a second. No, that is beautiful. I mean, what a, it's kind of a strange way to force a creature to stay. Yeah, that's my, that's why I'm not tearing up about it, is that I have my concerns about Freezing a bear In stone state Petrifying him forever
Starting point is 00:37:50 So he can't move This is what Putin did To that one guy He turned that guy to stone Remember? Remember? Yeah there's a guy There's like an enemy of Putin
Starting point is 00:38:04 Who he injected with some drug And then his face popped up A bar bench in London No man I don't It's a little too exaggerated to say Putin Turned someone to stone but that's a more Fun way to put it but a guy He got like a big craggy face
Starting point is 00:38:20 Because of poison I mean he claims he didn't Do it but and i you know i should may i should like our president choose to believe him but uh i take it he didn't do the stone thing uh but i don't know he said he didn't say it but uh i don't know i think there's something a little malicious about a coyote turning a bear to stone well that and that the bear was frozen in a position that I associate more with wolves than coyote, which is howling upwards at the sky. Maybe perhaps howling, don't turn me to stone. Please, please don't do this.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Right. It's like the Vesuvius. I do sort of feel like, though, coyote dogs and bears are similar looking in their snout they in their snout for sure i could see i see a semblance there where i you know if you're not seeing the rest of the body you know i mean yeah we're just going off face um which we are we don't see we don't see we don't see a big old bear butt no there's no bear butt And there's no coyote tits You know what are you going to go off of You got to go off the face
Starting point is 00:39:32 Big jiggly coyote tits Jiggly I think those are two We usually do like a plus up at the end But for this area those are two plus ups I wouldn't mind The butt and the tits yeah some coyote tits teats yeah yeah that's so proud of the brave bear that the coyote raised their
Starting point is 00:39:53 tits in celebration that to the legend uh yeah it is it's a good like if you know what you're looking at it's a very cool Rock structure thing But I can see Yeah it's a little bit Obscured which I like I think I made the point That I kind of liked That there was mystery
Starting point is 00:40:11 Surrounding it I like that too So then you can And you can see it more When you're on the actual ride Yes It's always sort of In the distance
Starting point is 00:40:18 Which I like Which is cool It's like not such A visible thing Well some articles Have pointed out As Jason said the trees have grown very much in the 20 years that california adventure has been open so you could
Starting point is 00:40:30 see the bear a lot better upon opening but now those trees have climbed and climbed and i haven't said this is on this website yesterland that somebody said that looks like they think it looks like a bear drowning in a sea of trees. I'm not sure I agree with. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I think he's doing okay. He's fine. I think it's a proud, brave yell, but that was their take. Also, the presence.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Oh, no, sorry. You get a whimsical bear next to this attraction, too, at the entrance. Oh, he's funny. He's fun. This is the best. He's in his present state, with more um leaning more towards the national parks uh vibe you can see he's got a wooden oar a number of years ago he was a little more of an extreme sports bear that's a very modern aluminum wood he's got a cool logo 90s logo
Starting point is 00:41:20 yeah he also this bear sports bear this bear is fantastic first of all i just want to say that on record he's about what we say 30 feet tall he's very large he's very tall he's a big boy that he's wearing a life jacket because i think that's a good message even a bear even a bear yeah needs a flotation device. Even a bear. I mean, you see some of those nature shows and they eat it in the rivers a lot. Like, they're fine. But they like, they're swatting for fish and they'll fall in sometimes.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Yeah. Yeah. They need a life jacket. Safety first. That bear right now is holding a Halloween bucket. What? Is he? I saw a picture of it last night.
Starting point is 00:42:08 He's holding a little trick-or-treat bucket. And then at Christmas, they take the vest off and put a Christmas sweater on him. And this is the greatest bear, other than the country bears, in the Disney parks. Does this bear have a name? I looked for it and we couldn't. I don't believe so. They haven't given him any backstory. I found this odd that of all the... Disney names everything. Why does this bear not have a name? I looked for it and we couldn't. I don't believe so. They haven't given him any backstory. Disney names everything.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Why does this bear not have a name? He has no backstory. He must have a name. I googled pretty thoroughly. Is he supposed to be the bear from Grin and Barret? The like goofy? Is it Donald? Is that Humphrey? Oh, that's Humphrey. Because that bear is portrayed elsewhere. Yes, that's Humphrey the bear and he's in those like
Starting point is 00:42:43 drying stations that they put out sometimes oh yes yes yeah he wasn't always he's not always yeah uh so this is a nameless bear we could name the bear on the episode i guess today i want to name the bear okay mary this is an idea for a name we can debate we should all throw out names i'm willing to let you the first one that came to my mind Canoe Canoe the bear Canoe the bear Canoe the bear
Starting point is 00:43:08 Is it spelled like canoe Or is it like kind of like a K-A-N-U Closer to Keanu Yeah Oh yeah I guess in my head It was spelled like canoe
Starting point is 00:43:19 Okay What do you guys think? What's a good name? Canoe Ansel In honor? Ansel? In honor of Ansel Adams? Nature photographer? No! Do you know what I call Ansel?
Starting point is 00:43:32 That's a great name. John? John or Muir? Like there's John Muir references everywhere. That's cute. We call the bear Muir. Okay, so far in the pile is Muir and Canoe. Those are the two ideas we have. Scott, do you have an idea? Aldebar Mure Mure Okay so far In the pile is Mure and canoe Those are the two ideas
Starting point is 00:43:47 We have Scott do you have an idea Um What about Would you Be spelled different But like the Like the star of the show
Starting point is 00:43:54 You're on Rory Rory It could be Rory That's cute Maybe put an A in there Oh that's good I will
Starting point is 00:44:01 This is a little inside Reference When we first got Edwin I I would call him Edwin. And then when he was bad, I would call him Rory. And as I'm saying this, he's hawking up a hairball. Put the mic by him. Are you okay, pal? All right, I guess he's okay.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Whoa. Wait, sorry. You... Wait, Edwin. Anecdote again. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Because it was so good.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Edwin, I used to call edwin rory when he was bad when we first got him like he had two personalities no so he's edwin but then he was rory when he was bad so my cat brenda is usually a little bit feisty a little bit of a we call it a moody teen because she usually wants to be by herself and you try to pet and she bites but if she decides to be affectionate then she is friend uh so i also uh have a dual pet nature and and a naming system to acknowledge this uh mary dual pet naming structure at all oh nope just didn't want to know one name all right because that one name well then whatever um that one name just pets are complicated and just like humans and just like my name mary encompasses all sides of me the the dark and the light so too do my pet's names we contain multitudes we contain multitudes
Starting point is 00:45:27 yeah um but it's nice it's nice to have a sort of like clear okay now she's frenda and now she's safe to approach it's like i consider it almost it's like the plus it's like a um uh like a different state of mario like tanukii suit. Now you're super Mario. Right, right. Yeah, that makes sense. That's fine. The treat to meet friend. My name for the bear would be Michael.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Well, wait a minute. Oh my God. Awfully selfish. I don't think so. This is no. No. No. I will not let this stand.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Wait. Okay, then I want to name the bear Mary. Okay. No. No. No. I will not let this stand. Wait. Okay, then I want to name the bear Mary. Okay. No. This is what you were bound to unleash. Now I got to throw Scott in the mix. I can't not. Do I want it to be named Scott?
Starting point is 00:46:17 I don't know, but. Jason, of course, still wants Ansel. I'm doubling down on Ansel. You're going to win just because we all got split up. Yeah. You also, though, want us to call on Ansel. You're Jason Statham. You're going to win just because we all got split up. Yeah. You also don't want us to call you Ansel. Yeah, it's not catching on. I'm like Cousin Greg on Succession going, I'm Gregory now.
Starting point is 00:46:36 No one listens to him. No one is listening to him. So, that bear is fantastic. Yeah, great bear. I take a photo of that bear every time I walk by. Yeah, and that Christmas sweater is great. That's a great idea. I forgot about that until today.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I love that. Jason, you brought up Humphrey the bear. So, this is a really specific, like, these, like, 50s era Disney cartoons set in national parks. Here we go. 50s era disney cartoons set in national parks here where there was a bear who was like it would not it's it's the pluto goofy rules where it's more of an animal than a humphrey doesn't really talk right right uh yeah humphrey's more more animal than anthropomorphized uh and i always liked these uh these things and they featured another guy who's in the parks uh uh who's featured now as the narration on the the grizzly river run ride this fellow this park
Starting point is 00:47:31 ranger oh yeah does he ring a bell he's seen this dude uh and his name he's very rarely named but only in one thing is he named uh jay audubon woodlore he great name yeah i really like him it really takes you a bit, like, there was this era of, like, I think we've talked about like, the domestic Disney characters. You have a little statue in your home of Domestic Mickey with a yellow
Starting point is 00:47:56 polo shirt. Like, when he became a homeowner, he wasn't like, struggling and working little odd jobs anymore. He bought a house, he settled down, and just like, Chip and Dale are causing problems in his house. But he's mellow. Right. This was, fellas, like, or, you know, Goofy's taking all these trips and trying out sports.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I think Donald's version of it was going to these national parks. I really liked all these commercials, or all these commercials, all these shorts. But there was this one, there's one moment with Jay Audubon Woodlor. Does anybody know this offhand? When I Googled him, there's this one moment that stands out and it's on YouTube and hopefully it's queued up correctly. But he's giving Donald the rules of his visits to the National Park. And here is this. Welcome to Brownstone National Park.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And now a few rules. No hunting, no fishing, no swimming, no drinking, no fires, no going over to the end bed if you go into that section, but don't do that either. And remember, don't molest the bears. Don't molest the bears. I think a more common everyday word back then. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:01 We just say father. Like molestar, like the Spanish for molestar like the spanish for yes star yeah yeah just net today really stands out and really jumped out of me in the google imaging for jay audubon woodlord just as true today don't molest the bears don't molest anyone yeah or anything yes that rule that rule applies to to all species and maybe especially bears. Not especially bears, it's all equal. But bears will retaliate in a way that maybe... Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Yeah. You're really asking for a mauling if you... You're asking for a mauling. That character was ahead of his time, maybe. Yes. Yes. I like to think that. Yeah, getting out front of it.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Wait, I don't recognize him, though, from the ride. When does he come up he well you hear his voice now if you've gone recently he does the safety instructions oh okay apparently it used to be this is wild extreme sports guy i don't what was he he was He was a rafting instructor. Named Bumper McFerrin. What? This might be the bear who everyone takes pictures of doesn't have a name, but they named an unseen voice Bumper McFerrin. Bumper is a great name. Bumper is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Think to 2001 as this park is opening, the X Games still popular. They did X Games stuff in the park. In the park. And so, the queue had a lot of, like, extreme sports kind of paraphernalia. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Even as it's surrounded by, like, giant trees. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And, like, a craftsman style hotel. Yeah. Weird. That was Hedda. Bumper McFerrin. Bumper McFerrin. And he sounds like this like he had that kind of yeah but why mcfair are they trying to reference bobby mcfair don't worry be happy
Starting point is 00:50:54 that seems like that sort of writer's room kind of like create it's the name the uncanny valley of names you're like you come up with the first name you like what do we call this guy like yeah it's a bumper yeah okay bumper johnson well and mick is a very comedy that's like very comedy oh yeah like mick silly face uh that's like a random naming mechanism yeah but mcferrin's pretty specific yeah i i think we're probably all bobby mcfarran's pretty specific yeah i they were probably all bobby mcfarran fans i mean aren't we all probably they like the message so that's probably it yeah will you know like how they've put rex on something else will bumper mcfarran ever come back in the parks because like they've taken now in star wars land there used to be the pilot of star tours rex that's the toy of him he's now djing in the cantina will oh that's cool
Starting point is 00:51:50 really nice reference to an old thing will but like maybe it'll take 20 years for bumper to come back but like he'll show up in a new ride eventually i hope so yeah it seems like he'd be a good dj oh yeah, DJ for the Rapids ride. Yeah, when they do the DJ, the Rapids club. When you get on it, you are on a big turntable. Oh, it's so cool. I love it. Don't those things weird you out, though?
Starting point is 00:52:16 Like when you step on and off, it's like that ghostly, like getting on an escalator that's not moving. Yeah, I think it's super i think i almost think that's part of the ride is like getting on that turntable and and timing it perfectly so that you get into your raft oh yeah you have a little like job there you you step off the stairs and then you gotta like scurry over and not let the weird motion sickness get to you Yeah And you gotta get on your In your raft Efficiently Before it like goes You have a lot to do
Starting point is 00:52:51 You gotta stuff everything Into that little space in the middle Yeah And like eight people's worth of stuff And purses and bags and backpacks Don't necessarily fit Yeah It's a little stressful I think
Starting point is 00:53:01 Getting on these things But you like it It's like the I like the interaction with it Like I feel the same way about food like i like interacting with food i love crab legs i love korean barbecue i like i like working with the food oh sure and um and i feel the same way about rides where i like have a job to do i like that i love a moving platform like i think that is my natural state of being is stepping onto a moving platform. Or like at an airport.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Natural state. Oh, the moving sidewalks. I'm like, oh, moving. Never miss it. I got to get on the moving sidewalk. Never miss it. He's calling to me. It's.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Yes. Man wants to be near flowing water, which I do. But also, I want to be by those moving walkways. Yeah. I got to get on it. You want the floor to be taking you where you have to go at all times. I, giving me a little extra boosts, like a little, a little help along the way. It's like having bionic implants.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Like you, you, you feel like you're 10% robot when you're on a moving sidewalk. It feels great. I mean, I probably just have positive childhood memories of like, usually it was at an airport or a theme park i'm going to somewhere i like i'm excited to go to yeah yeah i know it has positive and also there's something we we're drawn to like kinetic energy like movement is like very uh it's it's i don't know it's exciting it gets you like oh we're moving like it's that's i think one of the appeals of this area is there's a lot of greenery i think like a lot of green space goes a long way yeah i agree a lot of kinetic energy from the rafts um and the flowing water i mean there's
Starting point is 00:54:36 lots of look there's multiple lookout points where you can just watch the ride you can watch the river yeah it's so fun that big conveyor belt and the windmill and the yeah the mill um there's a beautiful i mean there's that little trail i don't know what if they call it grizzly river trail uh grizzly there's a big sign that says grizzly peak pass but you can go behind the ride and follow this trail that's the best school secret that's the best secret place is to go in california adventure And I say secret Just because I feel like Nobody goes back there Right
Starting point is 00:55:07 Because it's like They've added more And more details And stuff to it Over the years Carts and Drops And it's quiet
Starting point is 00:55:13 It's the quietest part I feel like Of the whole place And then at night It's Like you can just Sit out on that Or you can like
Starting point is 00:55:21 Stand on that little Like platform There's a couple Different like little Bridge type Platforms I My best friend and i went to disneyland and we spent the whole day there and it was like i think california adventure was closing at like 10 or something and we had gotten dinner in california adventure we had some worn and we it was like nine o'clock and we were
Starting point is 00:55:41 like oh the rides are still open that's my favorite time to do rides at disneyland or california venture because they're definitely not as crowded and they're they're a whole different experience like like big thunder road at night it's like it's the best the best um turns in grizzly river runs the same way it was empty it was just me and katherine and we just like it was so fun like weaving our way through the line and and then or the like where the line is and you're like in this canoe shack or whatever as you're going through to get to the platform and then we got in the raft and we went around it was just us in the raft there was no one else in the raft in front or behind us and then when we came around to like get off we we were like, can we just stay?
Starting point is 00:56:27 And the guy was like, yeah. And so we just did the ride over and over and over. It was, Catherine took a picture of me once from it and it's the happiest I've ever lived. It was the most fun. Do you know how many times you went on total? Like three or was it more? I feel like five
Starting point is 00:56:46 Wow I feel like it was closer to five Because you just like Why not? And it's all Like normally the line During the day Especially during a hot day
Starting point is 00:56:55 It's like two hours or something You can be really bad And there's like not a lot going on in that line Right So it's super boring So to feel like you're getting that For Yeah you don't even have to do it
Starting point is 00:57:04 You don't even have to get out Yeah You don't even have to get out. Yeah. You don't even have to walk. Wonderful. It was fun. Rabbits are one of the easiest ones to like, can we go again? Yes. Like, because it's such work getting in and out.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Totally. So, it's really rewarding. But it's also like pretty easy. Like, you're not going to hit like, no, you can't stay in the past the steel beam before it gets loaded again like right it just it just is yes it's a cycle oh yeah you couldn't just stay on the haunted mansion I don't know what
Starting point is 00:57:34 happens between the unload and the load I don't know machine yes there's no it's a ghost maker Oh my gosh That's so funny Do you go
Starting point is 00:57:48 Where do you think They get all those ghosts Yeah Do you Growing trees Do you do poncho Or no poncho What do you feel
Starting point is 00:57:56 About a poncho No poncho No poncho Do you think that's A sign of weakness If you need a poncho On a ride like that Honestly
Starting point is 00:58:03 No No I don't Because I get it If you're wearing something Like or if you need a poncho on a ride like that honestly no no i don't because i get it if you're if you're wearing something like or if you got like expensive camera or whatever i understand that um but i think that's part of the for me i i definitely don't judge other people if they're doing it but for me i'm like i'm no poncho because that's this is the whole that's that's the experience of it that's the fun of it is getting wet and then getting dry after by being out in the park but so you don't have the germ concern there is the love germs welcome i'm here i yeah i have zero germ concern maybe to a not great degree um but i I don't, I'm not even worried even a little bit.
Starting point is 00:58:48 And part of me is like, why not strengthen my immune system? Like I'm sort of, I'm sort of. You drink a little of the water too every time? Yeah, I drink a little bit. Some of that's getting in your mouth. Some of that water's probably going in your mouth. If you're laughing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:03 If you're laughing. If you're having a good time. If you're laughing, you you're drinking if you are on a dour rapids ride if someone's like imagine someone upset looking on a water i don't just have my mouth open the whole ride um i would if i could but uh but i've never i've never caught caught a stray drop in my mouth um but even if i if i did i mean i don't know i think you've gotten mist though probably in your mouth because the mist and mists all over the place sure sure so that's still some water i'll take it i'm fine with it i love it i mean i i'm good with it i have to say one of my other natural states is being soaking wet in full clothing so i don't mind
Starting point is 00:59:46 walking over like i i will these are natural states just from being i feel very serene just from going to so many theme parks like if i took you out on the balcony here and soaked you with the hose would you be upset soaked you uh if it came without warning but if i was prepared i would just come back in and continue the show like i don't have you hosing down jace oh i know there's a hose right there it's so yeah we can hose them down right now i mean i have some errands to run after this so you'll be wet you'll be in your natural i know but other people might be surprised like you can get away with it on property i don't want to unnerve people man context context is king you think people might be scared like oh a wet man like a soaking
Starting point is 01:00:39 wet man in a cvs like i don't know i might might be a little concerned. If I saw that, I would be alarmed. Because what if it's gasoline? Well, yeah. He's going to search this place and himself. What if he looks like... Well, now you're writing falling down too.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Like, I don't know what's... There's a crazy gassed up guy smoking in every store. I think though the CVS employees would be like, oh my God, there's a soaking wet man here.
Starting point is 01:01:03 But he looks like he's the happiest a man could be. Yeah, he's either having a great day wet man here. But he looks like he's the happiest a man could be. Yeah, he's either having a great day or a bad day. So serene. Hi, everybody. Hi, everybody. Throwing water everywhere. This is all why Jason voluntarily did the ice bucket challenge hundreds of times.
Starting point is 01:01:21 He didn't record it. Yeah, yeah. Not all for him. Record it. Stop challenging more people. Just for fun. I didn't record it. Yeah, yeah. Not all for camera. Record it. Stops challenging more people. I'm just for fun. I challenge Jason. Edits himself back
Starting point is 01:01:33 in the infinite loop of ice bucket challenging. Oh, man. What else is part of this experience? You know what doesn't happen on this particular Rabbit Ride is the thing
Starting point is 01:01:43 where people like pay a little bit of money and then like blast you Like fire cannons Or make geysers go off Like sometimes water rapids rides Or other flume type rides Dudley Do-Right does that
Starting point is 01:01:56 In Orlando And then you can sort of do it On the new Blanking on what the knots ride Calico River rapid It's very fun do it on the new um why am i blanking on what the knots right we want to calico calico river river rapid and not very very fun if you're if you're looking for even more i've never been to not very far oh yes there we gotta go big recommends always same manufacturer is this right intimate me oh really constructed both of these rides and uh the collie river rapids
Starting point is 01:02:23 in that disney's animal kingdom and california screaming and a ton yes yeah they've constructed a lot of stuff but that's fine they invent they made the first rapids ride at astroworld oh yeah i think they may have made all rapids rides like i've always been like oh rapids rides have this and this and this and that may partially be because one manufacturer makes them all. But I find I don't get super wet on this ride a lot of times. Yeah. I go through, I have gotten very wet.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Yeah. And then I've also escaped unscathed. They can turn it up if they want. That's the secret. Is it? Yeah. In the hot days, also it's the that's the secret is it yeah in the hot in the hot days also it's not that much of a secret in the hot days they can crank the water level up so it'll
Starting point is 01:03:10 soak everybody more and if it's colder they can turn it down and i think splash mountain is that too right it does yeah it's the same like there's levels of how wet they will get everybody i think in california especially they they scale it back when back Because it does get colder out here All of the Jurassic World too My question about Splash Mountain Would be That like they turn it up And down like on the last
Starting point is 01:03:36 Big drop but the real place you get Soaked is that like Second to last drop Because it just gallons of water Slowly enters the flume. It just like soaps into the. Yes it soaps in and just soaks your pants like crazy. In the pitch black.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I feel like they can't turn that off. I feel like that's not a setting. I think that's just like a thing that's housed. That's just where water has gathered. That's just the principle of displacement and volume. Like dropping a tennis ball in a bucket. Yeah. So like the end is like they can change it.
Starting point is 01:04:08 But I feel like that souping of your pants, that's going to be forever. Mike. Hmm? Be honest. Did you soup your pants? It's not the ride. It's not the ride, is it? Yes, I will admit I did soup my pants.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Soup my pants is such a funny word That drop is scary It's the scariest one I souped them I souped Mom, I souped my pants again Michael, it's every day We don't know what to do
Starting point is 01:04:36 We're gonna have to send you somewhere We've talked to every psychologist in the Schaumburg area. He won't stop suping his pants, and we're at our wits end. We've got to have a t-shirt, I guess, about suping your pants. Soup belongs in the toilet. Soup my pants. Hashtag soup my pants. Have you souped your pants?
Starting point is 01:05:04 Tweet at us with a hashtag soup my pants i'm a super hashtag i'm a super i think okay if you're talking getting wet on if you're if you're talking soupings uh the i think the most unpleasant okay there's all right there's ponchos right and that that helps i've done these rides with ponchos. I'm not dying to get wet on these things. But really, the big problem enters with the feet. I think if there was an easier way to prevent your... Because wet socks, I think it's... Sure, nobody enjoys that.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Yeah, nobody likes that. And that can maintain... Jason just said he likes wet socks and shoes. That's not true true I don't mind don't mind is different than liking if we hooked you up to a lie detector would you pass I might I don't mind walking around with it
Starting point is 01:05:58 you're being coy this is a contrarian opinion maybe because I have some contrarian opinions but I I don't like wet socks, which is why. I mean, if a sudden rainstorm comes in that I wasn't expecting. But again, if I know I'm going on a water ride and I had fun, it's a nice memory that I had fun. But you can have a memory without your... You don't have to wear a memory.
Starting point is 01:06:22 How can I get athlete's foot? That was fine Too many memories You have family albums of pictures of your wet socks From going on rides On his mantle Different socks that are wet They've just crusted
Starting point is 01:06:38 Over 15 years They dry It takes forever for your socks to dry It does It takes a lot longer It's sort It does, yeah, it takes a lot longer It's sort of the thickest, potentially thickest Fabric you're wearing I don't know if I've revealed this on the show before But this is a bit of a confession
Starting point is 01:06:53 So on Splash Mountain I say the last five times I've gone on I will Covertly take my socks off in the log You? Sneaky? Oh my gosh, that's so smart will covertly take my socks off in the log you sneaky oh my gosh that's so smart this is the end of the ride i'm furious
Starting point is 01:07:11 about this confession secretly when he's going like i'm taking my socks off but i'll do it low key i will just kind of go and then i put one in the pocket and i put the other i hung too so no one notices his sock off song But I'm humming to throw people off
Starting point is 01:07:28 You know they're They don't know This guy's just Obviously he's having a nice day Just checking my shoes They're still on Everything's normal I'm down here
Starting point is 01:07:35 Sock Over here You narrate it You announce it That you're doing You're like Because it's a little trick You mean I've
Starting point is 01:07:44 In the log with you Yes when we You've announced it Oh yeah little trick You mean I've Been in love with you Yes when we You've announced it I let you in on All the weird shit I do Why do you keep that secret What's the What's the problem with that
Starting point is 01:07:50 Because I feel like If I feel like people are weird With bare feet in general Got it Oh you take You take every I guess in my head
Starting point is 01:07:58 What I was Of course that makes more sense In my head what I was picturing Was you have You like slip your shoes off Take your socks off Put your shoes back on Yes Oh You do put Then you put your take your socks off put Your shoes back on yes
Starting point is 01:08:05 You do put then you put your shoes I put the shoes back on on the ride yeah i'm not Bare feet in the lock so But then you're just you got wet rubber Barefoot exposure weirds People out yeah so i feel like it Especially sometimes you're in the log with strangers You know sometimes
Starting point is 01:08:21 You're like this guy taking his shoes off Sometimes you're solo in a sometimes you're off Sometimes you're solo Sometimes you're alone Sometimes you're behind a bunch of children That has happened a couple times Although I don't think I was doing the shoe trick then But I was with It's a hack I like to call it A shoe hack
Starting point is 01:08:38 Did you know shoes come off? Shoes can come off and your socks also can come off And go into your pockets Mom the man behind me on the ride Started taking his clothes off shoes come off? Shoes can come off and your socks also can come off and go into your pockets. Mom, the man behind me on the ride started taking his clothes off. No, that's not what happened. The shoes were fine, but he started telling
Starting point is 01:08:54 it to me like it was a little trick. Then he sang and then I asked him why and he said, I don't want to get souped. Hello, boys. Did you know that your shoes can come off? Oh, God. Take your shoes off if you don't want to soup. Souped Hello boys Did you know that Your shoes can come off Oh god Take your shoes off If you don't want a souping
Starting point is 01:09:07 Yeah I'm a cool adult I like that hack I think that's a good hack Yeah You can Wear a slip on I don't do that
Starting point is 01:09:16 At Disney yet But that's a good idea too Wear a slip on Slip on off And then your shoes Dry a lot easier And then you Go to the bathroom
Starting point is 01:09:23 You put your socks back on I think the pre-putting on the flip-flops Is maybe the way to That's good You did it Oh, you pre-put So that means you have to Pack flip-flops
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yes, unfortunately But listen, they're I mean, they're flippy They're floppy You know, you flip and flop them They fold up You roll them up You're not careful
Starting point is 01:09:38 They'll flip-flop right away That's right You gotta keep your flip-flops on a leash But they flip and flop and you can just fold them up and put them somewhere like they're not like regular shoes where it's like cool yeah yeah there's no dimensionality your pants easy yeah so that's my hack i shove flip flops in between my yeah yeah under my belt all these hacks maybe i could leave them like dangling on like a belt loop yeah like get a little chain put it yeah the chain like a chain wallet but they're chain flip-flops
Starting point is 01:10:12 that would be the strangest thing or i go to downtown disney sandal store sanuk of course you all know sanuk i've been learning about the anticipation of the downtown disney ordeal coming soon you go to sanuk, buy your flip flops Then as soon as you're off the ride Return them and hope that they don't care That they're soaking wet Sneaky I like this
Starting point is 01:10:35 That doesn't work I would imagine it doesn't work but if you put them into The drying station In Humphrey's drying station Hold the shoes right up to the hottest part. Now, this is a lot of work. You really gotta you're really engaging.
Starting point is 01:10:51 And I'm spending a lot of money because the drying station costs $5. Does it? It does. It costs, it's a very expensive. Geez, I've never used it. Their ponchos are pretty prohibitively expensive as well because I thought about doing it late at night one time and my wife would only do it if we got ponchos and the ponchos were like $15
Starting point is 01:11:07 It's just plastic that's been Gathered yes that's like two cents Worth and you end up wet Anyway because you are sweating Because of the sheet of unbreathable Plastic you're wearing Good point also the plastic we got Lindsay and I got a poncho
Starting point is 01:11:24 In Animal Kingdom and The fumes, the plastic we got, Lindsay and I got a poncho in Animal Kingdom, and the fumes from the plastic were toxic. Like, we were getting headaches from it, wearing it for 25 minutes. So, I don't know if they're the same ponchos as the California Adventure ones, but we were like, it was pouring rain, and we just took them off, and we're like, we can't do this. It's crazy. I don't know why. Who knows?
Starting point is 01:11:44 Somebody chime in on what kind of plastic they use somebody out there knows question just occurred to me why don't you take your socks off before you get on the ride uh nobody's looking at your feet yeah i feel like that's people are all like wringing stuff out no people are there's benches like by the entrance and actually actually that feels more i guess are going to go into the bathroom. Actually, that feels more, I guess. Okay. I could probably do the bathroom, but because I don't want to be in a bench. Clothes essentially on a ride and having to sneak and sing your song.
Starting point is 01:12:13 I guess probably the answer is I like doing it on the ride. I think the answer is I get some sort of enjoyment on it. Now this is getting seedy to me. Now this is the confession part. Now Mike's the weird one yes well no longer the image of me on a moving platform soaking wet i didn't i don't forget about your love of wet socks um yeah that is the weirdest thing we've moved on entirely squash baby the bathroom is the only other place i think you could do it And I think just sometimes
Starting point is 01:12:45 Well you have the fast pass You're running a splash And I'm not going to hold everyone up When I know I can do it in the log Are you going to hold everyone up? Yeah I mean like you go I got to go to the bathroom
Starting point is 01:12:54 There's also You got to go past For how For Because also there's not One minute You hold everyone up Every time you go to the bathroom
Starting point is 01:13:01 Changing shoes in a bathroom Like is not ideal Yes it is That's also There's nowhere to sit Unless I pull shoes in a bathroom is not ideal. Yes, it is. Unless I pull the toilet down and sit on the toilet. No, I don't want to do that. Many bathrooms have chairs. They're called toilets. I don't care for that, honestly.
Starting point is 01:13:16 And you've refused to do it on events because you don't want the general public to peep your feet. Who are already there doing that. The general public is already there doing what you're doing. Yeah, I guess they are doing it. You just do it in the log.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Let them do it in the log. All right, just say you don't want to end up on WikiFeet, Michael. Michael, you already are. I guarantee all of you guys are on WikiFeet. I know I am. I would be honored if somebody would put me on there, honestly. Someone put Mike on Wikipedia? Changing your shoes from, I mean, a security camera has to have it.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And there used to be the website called Flash Mountain, where they collected every time that somebody flashed their boobs going down the right. That's so funny. That was a very like early internet. And the site still exists. And there's honestly like, you know, six photos on it. Like it didn't ever really happen. So this I think is the new thing.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Log feed. Log feed. Log feed. So maybe I should like put my feet in the air on the photo app part. Like I should. That would be. I would be worried about you maybe or like even just hitting the splash what would you'd like crunch your lumbar or something
Starting point is 01:14:35 like that it doesn't seem safe because there's no belt it's the reason why that's right you could you just tumble right out but you'd land feet first and you'd slide down the railings like whoa which would be really fun honestly like flipping out of the car flipped up and out of the car on splash mountain and slid down and then and then like and then like threw your hands up in a shocker it was like tubular i would definitely use some beach slang some beach surfer slang on the way down you have to and then you and then you're being loaded into the ambulance after all this and they ask are you okay and you say i'm more than okay i'm i'm coming to wiki feet please please do not get us kicked off patreon for your weird wiki feet. This flat around wiki feet business. Do you think that'll happen?
Starting point is 01:15:27 Patreon would ban us? They're going to kick us off because? Because of Mike's adult activities. Adult activities? It's Mike's adult pervert business. The nun who runs the school is here to give me rules. I'd like to start an adult pervert business, please. You know, Patreon has like porn. Yeah, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:15:48 Yeah, but then it's like hidden. Like your page gets hidden then for if you mark it explicit. Oh. Yeah. I'm making a joke that you're doing like pervert feet stuff. Yeah, pervert feet stuff, you know. I guess I am.
Starting point is 01:16:03 It's no joke. He likes likes it that's what we've determined we've discussed the dirty foot on pirates yeah doing it in the log dear penthouse forum you'll never guess what happened to me in a log it's the thrill it's like getting a quickie in Like yeah Like hey can we have sex really fast Like in this public space You're like trying to see how quickly You can
Starting point is 01:16:31 It's exactly the same thing It's totally the same thing Can't do it without anybody else Totally the same Yeah Completely And our Patreon is fucked It's toast
Starting point is 01:16:40 Yeah our Patreon is screwed now Because I take my socks off Because we are adult content We are adult content This has been Yeah, our Patreon is screwed now because I take my socks off in a log. We are adult content. This has been... Let's put the warning. We'll use the real warning at the top of the episode. Adult content. Adult content.
Starting point is 01:16:55 You have to use it at the top of every episode of every show. It always goes there. It is your fault. All of this is sort of your fault. Actually, it is your fault. All of this is sort of your fault. Actually, it is. Yeah. But I would not take my socks off like that on the rapids because it's so visible.
Starting point is 01:17:13 I would not on Grizzly River Rapids. Right, because people would see you do it. Because they got to pay, right? I'm not putting on my foot show. You need to work for free. I'm not putting on my pervert foot show unless i get paid for it oh man gee whiz jason's laughing i don't think he's gonna be able to get himself back here we gotta cover uh okay let's talk about the signage. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:45 I don't know where else. I don't know where to go from there. Let's talk about this. We've thrown this out and I want Mary's opinion on it. Sometimes we've said, and I'm wearing the shirt kind of accidentally, but we've said, you know, the country birds are no longer in Disneyland. They took them out. Pooh Bear is there now.
Starting point is 01:18:00 We've thrown the idea out of throwing some country bear robots on this ride. Do you think that would be blasphemous? Do you think that would ruin the ride? Do you like it pure like this? Or are you open to? Oh, I'm open to. Okay. I mean, absolutely open.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Because that line, you sort of weave your, I actually love this line because you're like, it feels like you're like going through like canoe sheds and like you're going through canoe sheds and you're seeing... It feels very camp-esque to me, which I really like. But it's true that there's not much going on besides getting to look at old coffee tins and that kind of thing. So, I think putting some of those country bears along the way couldn't hurt i think that'd be really fun and i don't feel like there's it's enough of a specific uh there's not a narrative to it you know what i mean like you're you're just like you're in grizzly river rapids and that's the story right so i don't think there's any clashing of stories that's happening right
Starting point is 01:19:04 there's nothing necessarily that'll like the country bird doesn't belong in this story it doesn't really matter yeah well and that's been one of our complaints about the ride is for a ride with a bear at the entry a bear mountain in the distance there's no bears there's no bear animatronics yeah that's true cave there's a roar there's a roar, so it's just a bear That's fun That's said to possibly be the ghost Of
Starting point is 01:19:30 What's the name of the bear The stoned bear Go back and get the name Azumata Azumata Usumate Okay, so that's his roar But it's a ghost bear
Starting point is 01:19:45 Yeah I think I saw somewhere Referring to that it's a ghost bear Which is cool Yeah it would be fun though to have them like along the ride That would be fun like in Splash Mountain Where you see all those characters That's really fun At the very least like more like ghost bear
Starting point is 01:20:01 Or have like a hitchhiking ghost bear Or something like on Haunted Mansion Hitchhiking ghost bear or something like on Haunted Mansion. Hitchhiking ghost bear. That's so many steps. Well, getting to see them. I mean, we've talked about this, putting the country bears there, but why are they there? Are they on vacation? Is that where we like witnessing little like their, like, is it little vacation tableaus?
Starting point is 01:20:22 Because one of those country bear shows was the vacation hoedown. And it's still in Tokyo. So are we seeing this is what it's like when the bears are not working? Or should they be singing to you? They could be the spokes bears for like conservation or the parks or whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:41 I feel like the national park brands seems a little less fun than them having like a hoot nanny but well like like they're no they can still have a hoot nanny but they're also explaining park rules as well like they're doing um what do they call it like influencer spawn con they're doing like sponsored content for the park they tell you a little they tell you a little about the parks in line and then they do the show like the ride is the show so they're not explaining stuff in the ride or they are well
Starting point is 01:21:12 maybe henry can so henry's zooming past these characters you can't really like listen to them talk for more than get no you can get a little uh music music but they can't explain that's what i mean i'm saying in line they can tell you about the parks a little. Which is what? Like square footage? What? Like what are they telling you? It's the history of the parks.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Well, the parks. Like conservation. I love the defensive. Well, they could still have a hootenanny. I don't. Yeah. Just that tone with that word is just very funny. It's a little mixed. They could still have a hootenanny. You can get little clips of songs. A hooten with that word is just very funny. It's a little mixed.
Starting point is 01:21:45 I just don't have a hootenanny. Get little clips of songs. Hootenanny with a message. Of course. Going by. I think that they should all be. Hootenanny. They should be having a hootenanny.
Starting point is 01:21:56 No rules. No stats. No rules. Hootenanny. They should be on vacation. Step one, hootenanny. Step two, vacation. Okay, number one one hootenanny
Starting point is 01:22:05 Number two no statistics No rules No explanations like the X Games before them no rules Okay wait no never mind No hootenanny Country bears performing X Games
Starting point is 01:22:20 We found it Together Okay so Henry is snowboarding liver games oh we found it now i like this i like where this is going together okay so so henry is snowboarding liverlips mcgrawl is uh i don't know skateboarding skateboarding with a sword or something that's an x games thing i assume the three sisters are all like they're on separate motorcycles spinning endlessly around a scared tourist not letting them go I'm trying to think Trixie is
Starting point is 01:22:50 why am I having a brain fart about her name Teddy swinging Teddy Bear on the right there and she's of course being lowered from a helicopter wow yeah it's and it's very dangerous a hiker who got trapped under rocks and then to seduce him as well
Starting point is 01:23:12 that's fun she's like may what the may west bear yeah so yeah every we always need a may west bear all of the bears all of the female bears are like maywest types honestly they're just different ages yes yeah yeah there's like teenager maywest types the sun bonnet trio there's teddy bear who's crying and then there's or no no there's trixie who's crying and then swinging teddy bear who comes from the ceiling they're all kind of like Handkerchief blowers Yes Hello Right I wish we had a video Of those Of you doing that Oh me too
Starting point is 01:23:49 Hello I'll happily recreate it And I'll put a foot up too I'll put it on wiki I'll wave a handkerchief With my foot We are getting on that God damn site now
Starting point is 01:23:58 Because we've talked About it so much You sure are Our dream Hi Edwin So yeah I think we'd be the First men on it and that might be no way i feel like the ratio is gonna be like 99.5 the monty python foot is probably on there
Starting point is 01:24:16 you think they just put up like classic foots of lore yeah um any giants foot from yeah so so like knots just recently put on all put all these like they did a very nice job of of putting on all these different like woodland creatures on their raft ride at least they didn't do like a crazy except for there's an old man with a musket which is great but everything else is just sort of like animal robots cool so i love robots yeah yeah that's i think all we want out of this ride is get sort of like animal robots. Cool. I love robots. Yeah. Yeah. That's, I think, all we want out of this ride is get some robots. Add some robots.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Yeah. I like going through the old mill. Add some coyote tits. Oh, yeah. Yeah, me too. Hello. Hello. Hello. To Mills.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Eureka Golden Timber Company. There's a very intensive backstory about Eureka Gold and Timber that the Imagineers have. That the bears could tell you about. That the bears could tell you about Jacob Probst who discovered gold there. The fictional gold prospector.
Starting point is 01:25:17 That's fun. Related to an ancestor of Mark Probst? Or Jeff Probst? Jeff Probst on TV. Not Mark. Best host on TV. Not Mark. Best host on TV. Sorry, I got his name wrong. Is there a Mark Probst somewhere? I'm devastated you got his name wrong.
Starting point is 01:25:30 I don't know. I think I might have just fucked that up. Anyway. You were thinking of Mark Summers. Yeah. Oh, Mark Summers. I mean, always. And Jeff Probst.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Yes. Your favorite host of all time. I do love Mark Summers. Wait, Jeff Probst is Survivor, though? Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. I think Mark Probst, is he on What We Do in the Shadows?
Starting point is 01:25:46 I'm thinking of the actor Mark Prosh is what I'm, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From the Deckerverse. Mary, best animatronic at any theme park? What's your opinion? Boof. Favorites, just some favorites. Some favorites, let's see.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Oh, I love the hippos on Jungle Cruise. I like the hippos. I like the elephant on Jungle Cruise. I like the hippos. I like the elephant on Jungle Cruise. Some of the OGs. Some of the first ever. Those are some favorites. Let's see. I'm trying to think of what...
Starting point is 01:26:16 I might need reminding of what all the animatronics are. I mean, there's a goat on Big Thunder and there's... Oh, yeah. I like that one too. There's like the dancing animals on splash you know yes of course those guys the riverboat animals uh yeah the um yeah that's the geese or what are the ladies who are dancing like kick line yeah yeah are they geese that kick line people are yelling at us now they're listening in their cars are there geese that kick lawn Oh come on
Starting point is 01:26:45 You know what they are Stay away From the What does that lady sing That lady she's a possum right She's like a possum mom Yeah that's my favorite part The laughing place that's right
Starting point is 01:27:01 That gets so serious From the laughing place It really is so scary That's right. That gets so serious. Stay away from The Laughing Place. It really is so scary. That's one of my favorites, too. And all the little ones are like, oh, oh. You're auditioning for, it seems like you're auditioning right now for playing that character on a Disney Plus show. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:27:19 And also, hurry back. Oh, yeah. Hurry back. That's good excellent thank you so much and also and also um
Starting point is 01:27:28 uh um uh uh the hesitant robot um uh
Starting point is 01:27:39 I can't think of a single one that's so true um Jay Audubon Woodlore when he's at a loss for words bumper mcfarren no he's never at a loss for words no no no he's always he's he knows just what to say a lot of 1950s like cartoon characters had that kind of voice well like a droopy dog though this person wait let me get the name right because I was looking at it.
Starting point is 01:28:06 I was like, why is that voice familiar? But that voice of that, of Jay Audubon Woodlore, it was not always, but most of the time droopy. Oh, okay. One of the original droopy.
Starting point is 01:28:16 And also the white rabbit and Smee. Yes, I believe that's Smee for sure. That sort of doopy. Did I? I don't know if I talked about this on the show, but when I saw Once Upon a Time in the Hollywood at the Vista, which is like a one screen, an old one screen movie theater here in Hollywood, and they played a droopy dog short before it that killed.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Like people were laughing. They applauded at the like it played better than some UCB shows I've seen in the last five years I don't believe that so yeah droopy dog still got it still got it still laughing after all these
Starting point is 01:28:58 years you gotta love droopy yeah we were in the clip that I showed earlier where with the sign don't molest the bears then it cuts to donald who has a really funny expression on his face almost as if he wanted to molest the bears it's kind of like and i it was making us i'm sure that is not why but uh i it was making us my wife and i just pledged to like yeah don Donald's funny you forget These characters are just around And they exist mainly as like
Starting point is 01:29:27 Photo opportunities and theme parks And you go back at some of these shorts and forget They are like Really super funny Super funny Donald is funny don't forget it and it sounds like Droopy is too I'm trying to think there's an old I got this IDW Collection of old mickey cartoons and they are
Starting point is 01:29:48 you know problematic in some ways um but mickey is a maniac and he says crazy stuff like constantly like he threatens like to keep he hopes somebody dies in one of them really yeah and then like he says something really uh not uh like the cancelable to minnie he says something really Not Like cancelable to Minnie He says like Minnie you're I'm trying to think Oh yeah Minnie you're a peach for looks but you've got applesauce For brains Oh my god
Starting point is 01:30:15 Which is like crazy Like these characters used to be insane You're a peach for looks You've got Peaches Famously Superior to apples Yeah
Starting point is 01:30:29 Looking like a peach You want These characters Thinking like an apple Hell no They used to have These characters say Crazy shit
Starting point is 01:30:35 Yeah All the time Yeah Cause why Why Why not Sure I mean I guess also
Starting point is 01:30:40 Over the time It was like That was just a normal thing For a man to say To a woman Yeah that was just A turn of phrase Right
Starting point is 01:30:44 That everyone was saying Out on the town right right when you were out on the town you're always talking about who was a peach for looks you had applesauce yes you know she's great but she's got that fucking applesauce for brains oh boy that applesauce for brains if you got sick you'd say you've got an applesauce You've got applesauce For an immune system Yeah Any negative quality Right Which
Starting point is 01:31:09 Luckily that's changed And now applesauce is good And the Because It's delicious And the greatest compliment You could get Is you're a peach for looks
Starting point is 01:31:18 And you have brains for brains No higher praise Yeah Both That's true Imagine that Yeah What about like you're a peach for looks and you've got a peach
Starting point is 01:31:28 for a brain? I don't, that's, hmm. It sounds a little, it sounds insulting. Peaches get pretty soft pretty quickly. They get mushy. You want to look like a peach but not think like one. Yeah. Right. That's so crazy. Alright, put on a pot of coffee. I gotta go through all the fruits now. What is the smartest fruit? We have to think of a lot
Starting point is 01:31:44 of stuff. We have to still crack that show idea at the start of the episode we have to figure this out there's a lot of work we have to still add it to the whiteboard yeah better start that hose up i'm thinking in your natural state very well put a hose on uh all right what else what else we have not talked about here there's a logistical thing I never knew about this ride. So apparently when Rapids rides are not in operation and in California, and I think even in Orlando for there's a few months of the colder months of the year, they shut it down to do work on it. Usually like this ride is usually closed like what?
Starting point is 01:32:20 January to like March or so. They do a little refurbing. But regardless, they need somewhere somewhere even when it's running um but when it's not pumping like at night when the ride's not running they need somewhere to put the water so uh they were trying to figure out what to do with that and they were going to build an underground basin to do it which would have been very expensive basin basin yeah okay uh uh and so they realized that there was a large body of water they were going to build at the at the wharf area the other part of the park so uh that's where the water drains to sometimes, which they wanted that to be like a tidal basin to simulate like rising and falling water anyway.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Oh. So, they needed a place to sometimes store water from this ride. So, I guess they connected the two underground. They are genius. Yeah. So, all of the California Adventure bodies of water connect. Right. Not all of them, but those do. Yeah. And that's why I don't mind having it in my mouth. Yeah. So, all of the California Adventure bodies of water connect. Not all of them, but those do.
Starting point is 01:33:25 Yeah. And that's why I don't mind having it in my mouth. Yeah. It's been all over that park. And it's taken care of. They take care of the water. I know they take care of the water. They put thought into that water.
Starting point is 01:33:39 Massage it. Love it. We should take a cup, an empty cup when we go on these rides and have a little scoop. Have a little drink. Have a little scoop little scoop a little scoop of water yeah we should see you should get a little scoop and then go get it water tested see see how dangerous it actually is although you probably would get sued for that right i don't know i think it's okay i mean how like if i don't know how would they sue you What would be illegal about it That you That you
Starting point is 01:34:09 You did it And we didn't say you could And you didn't ask Yeah If you do it As long as you don't publish like a lid blower As long as you're not like Because they're not claiming that that water is drinkable so there's there's nothing that you would yeah like it's probably on the
Starting point is 01:34:30 warning signs too yes don't drink yes i think you're right don't drink this water idiot yeah don't drink this water why would you you suck yeah what you need the country bears around to mourn about right one of the country bear the river In that version They would stop The actual raft Would stop in front of a bear For a couple minutes While they explain Why the water Wasn't drinkable
Starting point is 01:34:49 We had it tested recently Right Let me get into this Alkali levels Non-potable The pH specifics The swipe didn't go well Jason's dream ride
Starting point is 01:35:03 All right. Hillbilly bears talking about pH. Yeah. What else you got? You know what's the fact about the thing we haven't talked about? This is one of the best. This region, the Grizzly Peak Recreation Area is one of the best places to see Disneyland feral cats. In and around.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Oh, yes. In and around the brushes. At least that's one of the spots that I have seen the cats. And especially a shout out to Francisco, a long-haired tortoiseshell. Say hello to Francisco if you're there. Because the cats all have names. Do you know any of this about? No. There's an Instagram account, I believe, that tracks the Disneyland cats and knows who all of them are.
Starting point is 01:35:46 That's so cute. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's consistent characters, evidently. So, this is one of the places because they want to be near nature or a simulation thereof. And it's still, there's quiet parts of this area. So, it's not necessarily.
Starting point is 01:36:01 There are quiet parts. So, trafficked. So, they can have a little break. Have a little snooze. A cat would not want to hang out in Radiator Springs because every five seconds. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And all that rock and roll.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Not a place for a cat to hang out. All that rock and roll music. Cats hate rock and roll. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fact. That's a fact. Cats love jazz.
Starting point is 01:36:23 They love the acoustic plucking. Yeah. Yeah. They love upright basses. They love the acoustic plucking. Yeah, they love upright basses. They love Spanish guitar. Right, which is California. Love Spanish guitar. Tons of California. Well, flamenco guitar is everywhere at California Adventure. Yeah. And Terrell Puss in Boots loves flamenco guitar.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Oh, right. He's Latin. Antonio Banderas puts in boots? Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's true. He's Dreamworks. Yeah, I know. So he can't be in the park. I'm just saying. No, I'm just arguing. He can't be. If he sets one foot in that park, the train
Starting point is 01:36:55 will set him on fire. I will personally. He will. Tying some fake rocks to his little kitty legs going to the bottom of that tidal basin. No! No! Too far, Jason. We don't have that. I basin i was setting them on fire but i would never do that okay all right never mind drowning is more in you know what would be the simulation of the rising and falling tides when the water drains into there you know you don't want it draining and then like what is that right you know exactly then you gotta bury it you gotta draw some in the castle
Starting point is 01:37:25 the castle moat that's all that's deep and dark nobody ever goes into the castle moat don't drain that don't drain the castle moat yeah I didn't even want to know what you'd find enemies from from the 50s that's where he kept them all communists it's just full
Starting point is 01:37:41 communists communists he built Disneyland as a place to hide the bodies of communists. Anyway. The police can't come looking if I own the lake. That's true. Former Disney head E. Card Walker got up to some real shady business in the 70s. Disney let Nixon hide some of his enemies' bodies there, too. Well, Orange County buddies. Of course. Got to. Got to. That's why they built the submarines. That's why he was there overlooking it. nixon uh disney let nixon hide some of his enemies bodies sure well orange county buddies
Starting point is 01:38:05 why they built the submarines that's why he was there overlooking it so here's where you you can hide them in the reef okay let's cut this monorail ribbon um so uh what have we missed we've missed that there's a big drop and the drop's pretty fun 22 feet i think Wow Is it? I've heard 21 Word on the street is There are different numbers It's around 20 We know that for sure
Starting point is 01:38:31 Okay So it's not Complete fact yet And the rafts This is unique to this ride I feel that They spin As they go down that drop
Starting point is 01:38:39 Yeah The rafts spin Yes that's fun They're designed by that Not every Like a lot of Rapids rides Have that sort of
Starting point is 01:38:45 drop but they don't all spin they found a new thing in this genre if you look at the list of all the rapids rides that there ever were it's a weird genre of ride that existed outside of the major but it wasn't they didn't have them at disney didn't have them at universal and they were all like mostly six flags and hershey park and those kind of places but once disney finally got on board this trend, they reinvented the wheel and added a big mill wheel. I love it. The twirl, yeah. It's so fun. The twirl winding company.
Starting point is 01:39:12 It's so fun. Because then you get to be on all sides of it. You get to be facing down and then you get to be backwards going down. It's really fun. Yeah. I love that moment too like right before you go down the drop You can see where you just were
Starting point is 01:39:27 Yeah And like it's like a little bridge going over top of it I like that too, yeah It's really, really great It's also like a ride like Every other ride It positions you in a certain spot In a certain direction
Starting point is 01:39:40 So it is like if you went on You'd have a different experience Tactically a different experience every time Sometimes you go over backwards like imagine sometimes you went backwards on big thunder that would be amazing but it's impossible unfortunately i mean it's not impossible but you get in trouble you just whip your head around a lot one time i rode big thunder mountain and um me and my friend were in the last seat. Right? It's two. Two at a time, right? Yeah. And the
Starting point is 01:40:10 woman in the little cart in front of us had hair that went, that like truly was like skimming the gears. Like it was like this long gray hair that was truly when she got off the ride it was like down to her like knees or something. And I was like this long gray hair that was truly when she got off the ride, it was like down to her like knees or something.
Starting point is 01:40:27 And I was like, it was almost like she wanted something to happen. Like she was like just like waving her hair around. Like Catherine and I were both like clutching the sides of the cart the entire time. Are we going to see a head come off? Are we going to see a head come off? But the workers were like not worried, didn't tell her to tie her hair up or anything. But I was like, why on earth would you even toy with it?
Starting point is 01:40:52 If you had hair that long and great, have hair that long, I love it. But why would you even want to even play with the idea that it could get caught in something like, oh, isn't that so scary? Yeah, that's very scary i also to lesser degree i don't really want to be touched by strangers hair so it's that long yes it didn't it wasn't blowing into our faces okay that's goodness it was just sort of waving down like
Starting point is 01:41:17 below um it's like giving the track a clean giving a little sweep it was so crazy wild yeah because you i'm sure like i guess it's probably just something they don't come in contact with ever that severe of a length i'm not how i would assume there there have to be like safety regulations as far as like because that's like such a like if somebody came on the ride with a veil like a bridal veil they would say you can't wear that i assume i'm just trying to think something that's that long that's also then hair ish yeah yeah i'd be like well excuse me you can't that's gonna drag well excuse me excuse me oh i also i know we're not talking
Starting point is 01:41:58 about this oh actually can we talk about the wardrobe of the people who work? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. Love it. Yeah. Yeah. In favor of. I also love the wardrobe on Big Thunder Mountain.
Starting point is 01:42:12 I actually think it's very stylish. Grizzly River Run, if I am right. What do they wear? They wear sort of like kind of gingham. Am I right about that? I don't know. Is it like what a National Parks employee would wear? Is it a little like. Like a ranger. Scouting. I feel like it's gingham. Am I right about that? I might need to look that up. Is it like what a National Parks employee would wear? Is it a little like-
Starting point is 01:42:27 Like a ranger. I feel like it's scowdy. Scowdy. Uh-huh. Which I am so in love with. Do you have a bandana on as we speak? Do they wear a bandana? I don't recall the-
Starting point is 01:42:37 I feel like they might around their neck, a little kerchief. Which those can be cool. Those are very cool. If you're, yeah, yeah, like correctly styled. They don't have to be stiff like Jay Audubon woodlore very cool. Yeah, yeah. They're correctly styled. They don't have to be stiff like Jay Audubon woodlore. No. They can be hip. Paul Lind or Charles Nelson Reilly would wear them on Match Game.
Starting point is 01:42:54 Sure. That's my thing with the bandana. Sure. More of the neckerchief. Neckerchief, yeah. Yeah. So, that's good. I like those.
Starting point is 01:43:04 I would wear that. I do think maybe I'm like 10 years away from wearing like a neckerchief i think that's right i think that's right i worked on the thing in oklahoma this summer and a lot of the the people in the crew the young the young cool people they're like in their early 20s they um like the key grip she was so cool and she wore a bandana tied around her neck, like, like where it was like, not like a,
Starting point is 01:43:30 kind of like a railroad-esque feel to it. But I was like, oh yeah, no, it was that. It was like tied around her neck and she was just working.
Starting point is 01:43:40 And I was like, that is so cool. She looks awesome. Anyway, so bandanas are in? so bandanas are in yeah so this outfit is very stylish right now the grizzly river employee i have to like i want to i want to like look up a picture of like what it what it actually is so that we can really critique it because i'm going off of memory and i don't know if it's accurate some costume some employee costumes seem a little like mortifying like if you had to wear that every day be a tad embarrassing but there are some yeah sometimes and my wife erin will
Starting point is 01:44:16 especially point out like that's that's pretty sharp that's pretty foxy uniform right yeah sometimes they get to yeah foxy which one oh go ahead oh no i was gonna say just you go indiana jones oh yeah yeah yeah uh-huh i was just gonna say which one specifically has been referred to as foxy by you or aaron i'm not i can't i can't recall off but this genre for sure of like outdoorsy like uh beige khaki yeah like for women especially yeah yeah yeah some are pretty cool like some feel like karen allen and uh yeah yeah yeah yeah yes everyone loves it not like the little mermaid ride where they're wearing like little sailor suits yeah i'd say that's not good or anything where you're in like a um you know i wouldn't want if i was working in the park i wouldn't want to dress in anything where i had to wear like a
Starting point is 01:45:07 big floppy renaissance hat or anything with like oh yeah like big big puffs yeah shoulder puffs um i would love to wear the maids outfits in haunted mansion oh yeah yeah those are so cool those are pretty cool what were you wearing In the What was medieval times We wore like It was similar to that It was like a peasant's Blouse And like a skirt
Starting point is 01:45:31 And they gave us Like a little corset Cinchy thing That we sort of tie Sure On ourselves It was alright It was great
Starting point is 01:45:38 Huh I would like to wear The car's racing outfit The like Oh that's fun The pit crew jumpsuit Yes I love the pit crew jumpsuit that's fun yeah that's good you look kind of like joel on mystery science theater original mystery science
Starting point is 01:45:53 that's right yeah uh and then um duffy has that my duffy has that same outfit so duffy and i could wear the same clothes should they get another drink? Ten years away from that, too, right? I don't know. Ten days? Yeah, it might be ten minutes as soon as we leave. He puts on a jumpsuit that matches his tiny stuffed bear's jumpsuit. And then Edwin gets one, too, obviously. Do you know about Duffy the Disney teddy bear? The name sounds familiar.
Starting point is 01:46:22 He's just sort of a personality-less teddy bear they sell in the theme park. His traits are no traits. And the backstory is that Minnie made Duffy for Mickey because Mickey is a sea captain and that he was going on a long sea voyage. I see. Mickey also kind of a cipher. Mickey has had a million jobs or can do whatever you want him to do. Yes. After he, after
Starting point is 01:46:47 they said maybe he shouldn't be insulting Minnie like that. Yeah. He should be a general. Let's keep you busy. Maybe he shouldn't be misogynistic. Or like some of the older Mickeys, he's always like an arm's reach away from a gun. In some of those old shorts and comic straps.
Starting point is 01:47:04 He was always. He wields a gun in the comic these comics i'm reading so yeah yeah so yeah he was a wild man so anyway many knew he needed to be kept busy at sea and of course a teddy bear was going to keep him company uh and duffy was born and now you can get duffy and his uh his friend shelllly May and dress them in all sorts of fun outfits. This is what I'm describing to you, Mike's teddy bear who he dresses. And I have him upstairs. That's very fun. And he has a full Cars jumpsuit.
Starting point is 01:47:36 And he has his own bed. As soon as we leave, you'll put on Duffy's shoes and socks and then discreetly take the shoes off and take the socks off and then put the shoes back on. That's right. We'll be in the bathtub. It'll simulate the log. Yikes. It's okay, Duffy. No one is looking. Who is going to come out of this
Starting point is 01:48:00 episode looking weirder? Me or Jason? Is it me? For once, you maybe. Okay. Don't forget i was moaning about tiffany lamps a while that feels like it was yesterday though yeah i know yeah it's been so much creepiness we've covered so much so much we really have any closing thoughts about this ride about california adventure about theme parks in general love love love i support i'm in favor of um i love it i i would just highly recommend going at night to any of these rides i think that's a great experience sure um and uh listen just hey get a little of that river
Starting point is 01:48:39 water in your mouth and just see what happens and let us know build your immune system never get sick again cold and flu build your immune system. Cold and flu season is coming. That's right. Teach your innards to fight. Yeah. Fight in shape. Better than a vaccine.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Better than a flu vaccine. Drinking a little Grizzly River run water. And I say, like, turn up the water. Especially when it's hot. I think so, too. Turn up the water. I've been there during heat waves, and I still haven't gotten that wet. I i i want them turn up the water and let's get a few more robots in there i think we all can agree on that we do agree on that whatever genre of robot they put in
Starting point is 01:49:13 doesn't matter we'll love it um all right uh well great tips uh great episode thanks for hanging out mary holland you survived podcast Ride. Thanks so much for being here. Let's exit through the gift shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug? Oh, as I exit the gift shop, I'll take this key chain of a picture of us. You know what's the thing I forgot to mention? The little store, I think it's called Russian River Outpost or something.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Oh, yes. Love Russian River Outpost. Oh, wait. Okay. Well, let's literally exit through the gift shop. Fabulous. Seem yes. Love Russian River Outpost. Okay. Oh, wait. Okay. Well, that's literally extra to the gift shop. Fabulous. Seemingly. Very fun.
Starting point is 01:49:49 Very fun. A lot of fun odds and ends. You know what else? You know what's weird? They have a bunch of, they have like grizzly puppets and the puppets, despite being a different
Starting point is 01:49:55 kind of Disney bear than Duffy, also have a little mousier shape in the paw. Oh, interesting. It's cute. You can get those. Those seem pretty cute. You can get thermosesoses you can get all
Starting point is 01:50:06 kinds of camping goods there which is really fun you can also take a scoop and get a big big bag of gems you can buy yeah when i was a kid oh yeah forget it you see those at a gift shop you're like yeah it's not a matter of which if i've gotta get it's what size bag Are they gonna let me get It's so funny How like You love that so much Yeah It's a bag of Bag of hard Plastic Plastic
Starting point is 01:50:31 But what a dream Gems We're like children I think Snow White Trains us all That like That looks That's money I guess too
Starting point is 01:50:38 It looks like treasure It looks like treasure So anytime you see it Even if it's plastic I think I thought It was worth money though I think I Because there used to be
Starting point is 01:50:48 When the Wisconsin Dells You could sift And find them They did a whole show That's a great idea Yeah That's fun So we would like sift
Starting point is 01:50:56 Through and find The plastic gems And then put them In a little bag And I remember being like These aren't worth money Like I'm gonna be rich Even at that young age
Starting point is 01:51:04 And an entrepreneur. Yeah. Looking for it, looking to make a buck. For me, I'm in it for the magic. I love the, they also look like candy, which I think is very appealing. Yes. Want to put them in my mouth. Want to eat.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Oh, I knew we couldn't. I knew we couldn't finish the episode without you saying something that's something about something putting in your mouth put it in your mouth Jason I knew we couldn't
Starting point is 01:51:31 god we were so close we almost made it we almost made it what are the things what's going on what are you doing what's going on I perform at UCB
Starting point is 01:51:40 I'm there a lot with various groups so come check it out Wild Horses and JV and NASCAD and all those guys if you're in LA come see a show and then in general
Starting point is 01:51:54 what I'm up to I'm on that show Robbie that's going to be coming out on Comedy Central soon I'm in a movie with Betsy Sedaro we don't know when that's coming out. Sure, sure. But that's called Golden Arm, and that's coming up.
Starting point is 01:52:08 I don't know about this. Oh, cool. Yeah, there's a lot of fun stuff happening. That's great. So, I guess just keep your ear to the ground. Could you plug a Twitter, maybe? I guess. Or stuff?
Starting point is 01:52:18 Was that where you put things? I post updates on Twitter, at mholland85, and on Instagram, at mary holland days like the sauce of course uh great sauce great sauce um don't say let's just plug that in general uh um yeah and as for us uh hey live shows coming up those are those will still be in the future chicago orlando happening come see us if we're coming to your town or come to another town if those aren't your towns but go to one of those two don't just go to any town um and uh hey and also uh check us to check out our patreon at patreon.com slash podcast right check us out on twitter on instagram uh on tublic Where you can buy fun t-shirts and stuff
Starting point is 01:53:07 No gems though, sorry to tell you No gems and no feet stuff either Michael What would that even be? I don't know Yeah, I don't know Wet socks? Hooves?
Starting point is 01:53:20 Buy Jason's old wet socks Forever wet socks Directly from our wiki feet page Which doesn't exist as we record this But will exist by the end of the episode having aired So go to wikifeet.com Slash podcast the ride Could we add a Patreon tier
Starting point is 01:53:37 Where like if we come to a town We can set you up in a dunk tank Sounds like your dream Yeah the logistics of getting a dunk tank Though I gotta imagine That's a pain in the ass Why just get a big tank full of water Yeah but
Starting point is 01:53:53 She's right It doesn't matter let's just get a rubber maid And then you can sit in a chair above it And then the listener will be able to just push you Into the rubber maid That is genius And we need a rubber And then the listener Will be able to just Push you into the rubber maid There's no even He is genius And we make a big sign
Starting point is 01:54:07 That says Put Jason in his natural state Well that's true Natural state booth Yeah Alright that's easy Done Alright
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