Podcast: The Ride - Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure

Episode Date: January 10, 2020

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FOREVER! DOG! The Dead Speak! Podcast The Ride is back with resolutions for 2020, occasionally accurate Harry Potter specifics, and magical creatures called Bees. Lots of Bees. It's the economically named Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure,

today on Podcast the Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, the podcast about theme parks that will, in 2020, cover the Country Bear Jamboree. I'm Scott Gairdner, joined by Jason Sheridan, who is on board, correct? I am. I'm being a little, starting the new year off blind, Simon. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Coming in hot. What? We gotta do it. A lot of you are doing a big ride today. And Mike Carlson, what do you think?

What? First of all, I'm a little under the weather. I'm not prepared for something like this to be railroaded. I know, I was worried about launching that on you, considering your health. I'm being railroaded here is what I feel like is happening. But you're being railroaded into doing your dream. This is like, why would you avoid talking oned into doing your your dream this is like why would you avoid doing talking on your podcast about your favorite thing in the world people have been

waiting yeah that's true huh i don't know you know i think it just like it feels like i i think i've said this before i wanted to go somewhere and sort of meditate on it and think about doing country bears and feel like if it's the right year to do it sure is 2020 the right year? I guess we have 12 months to figure out which month it is. That's what I'm saying. We're at the very, very beginning, which gives you 11 months at the extreme of meditation. So that's a ton. That's a ton.

This is the most shocking. We could devote all of December to it. However you want to frame it. There's so many options. This is the most shocking start to something uh the rise of Skywalker when we said that it's the dead speak and Emperor Palpatine the bears the bears sing oh wow okay shocking as a broadcast from a cave uh yeah it's it it's I know I knew it was gonna throw you but I think it's a big It's a big year coming in hot I have to travel to the country bear version

Of Exegol the Sith planet To talk to You're the bad version you're Palpatine No I'm not Palpatine I'm Ben Solo You're going to discover dozens and dozens Of bears there For you They're kind of like mutter or something

Built by crowds that are guys Or ghosts are waiting for you. Oh, oh, oh. They kind of like mutter or something. Built by crowds that are guys or ghosts. We're not sure exactly what they were. I don't know. And thank God we didn't have to find out much more because if they had, you know, done something, that would have been terrible. That would have thrown me big time. Yes.

We shouldn't spend so much time on Exegol. We probably will get there on the Rise of the Resistance ride. Which I assume goes to Exegol. I assume you'll be on Exegol. We're going to talk about Exegol a lot this year. I will declare this. Exegol will be the planet we discuss the most in 2020. Exegol exclusively.

Good name. Good space name. A lot of X's in it. That's very spacey. Yes. And I will say I like Exegol, honestly. I think there could be better uses of it. It's the planet where there is always lightning.

It is the only all-strobe planet. Uh-huh. There was warnings about that movie that if you were sensitive to strobe lights, you shouldn't do it. No kidding. And it's Exegol. Yes. Entire scenes.

Well, what's the new Star Wars planets? The five sets from The Mandalalorian or all cgi light in pitch black that's the star wars baby disney ain't doing well uh we fucked up uncle billy he lost he spent lost disney's eight thousand dollars so they have to they spent too much money on Rise of Resistance. That's what happened. That's where all the Star Wars money went. Which we'll cover soon.

We'll get there soon. But I think you need to be like Rey on Exegol, summoning all of the spirits of Bear's past. Right. Be with me. Right. Again, in black voiceover. You'll hear all their voices. Be with me. Be with me right again in black voiceover just yeah you'll hear all their voices be with me be with me don't use the footage don't use the in-costume footage that is shot and on a hard drive supposedly supposedly wait really yes there are so many rumors about rise of skywalker

reshoots right now. Wow. There are rumors. I would love to do a pop-up video and see every frame, what was a reshoot and what wasn't. I will send you multiple Reddits, and some of them could be total bullshit, but there's versions of the rumors where Matt Smith is a full character that was cut out.

He was the villain of the movie. A full-on Doctor Who. where Matt Smith is a full character that was cut out. He was the villain of the movie. Completely cut out. A full-on Doctor Who. It is possible that Disney could have promoted the new Star Wars bad guys, the Doctor Who y'all liked. And didn't happen. And I don't know how true any of this is, but if you go back in April,

there's like Matt Smith is in this movie reports. So it's not like this is completely out of love field but there's versions yeah where there were spoiler alert I guess Jedi's at the end Jedi ghosts at the end because I had said we shouldn't talk about this is for the Star Wars episode it's approaching our last level conspiracy theories

I love conspiracy theories anyway let's get to this in the Rise of Resistance yeah yeah although I think we'll have a ton I don't know if we're going to want to go over the fucking movie during that episode. I will guarantee in 2020 we'll work on our communication skills. We'll work on taking turns. The next episode, Mike will tell us what we're doing. And then I will surprise us in what we're doing.

Well, I like declarations. I wanted to get it on. So will you commit? Will you commit to Country Bears 2020? I have to commit now. Yeah, you do. Okay, let me think here. I'll commit, but I am prepared for it to be like Irishman level.

That's fair. Let me just summon. Let me see if I can summon. Oh. to be like Irishman level. That's fair. Irishman. Of course. Let me just summon. Let me see if I can summon. Oh, a surprise guitar, apparently. Well, no, that was supposed to be like a sort of an otherworldly. Oh, that's right. Yes.

I will commit. Yeah. I've been tapped on the shoulder by Big Al. Oh, he appeared. He was with you. I should have actually just played one string on the guitar there. That's good. Oh, there he was. I felt his

spirit. Wow. Yeah, exactly. However you want to play it, as many hours as it takes. It's going to grow. I caught some of Bugsy on TV. Not our Bugsy. Some of the Warren Beatty Bugsy on TV. A our Bugsy. No kidding, man. Some of the Warren Beatty Bugsy on TV. A movie that is just about a casino budget

slowly going from $1 million to like $6 million. And Ben Kingsley and Joe Montagna just getting more and more bad. And then any goodwill I had for the movie immediately thrown out the window at the very end credits where it says written by james tobac and i was like oh i forgot i forgot man what the heck the one the guy who pure stats wise is the uh maybe the the top dog of me too although we don't know we don't uh i don't know that's wise i don't know There's people maybe putting up even bigger stats

Tobex also His shit was like Just like walk up to you And like rub himself on you In a crowded place Just really I don't even know what to Creepy as old grandpa Palpatine

We'll get to that On the Tobex episode on the Warren Beatty episode. No, the Toeback episode. Let's do a slash. It's Toeback slash Thought Sunrise of Skywalker. But that's incredible commitment. I love it. It's a New Year's resolutions.

That's how I feel. Anything else we're excited for in 2020? Oh, yeah. 2020, I mean, rides wise, we got marvel land opening in the summer uh that has been confirmed in the last couple weeks there was some speculation of like maybe that'll be pushed but no apparently not because it's another in the series of it's the land is opening not the big ride but something as a restaurant and that hasn't even started construction the big ride that's god knows we're gonna get that um but you know i can only think of rise of the resistance because

it opens here in yeah which all we can say is we'll try to we're gonna do it as soon as we can but my fear is we're all gonna go and then it won't uh be open and then i don't know just i mean i i hope we get to it in january we're gonna to try, right? Yeah. That's all we can say. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because like what we're covering today could be a lot of problems. Not guaranteed, Hagrid's I'm saying. The big rides of late have been fraught with peril.

Complicated. I mean, higher and higher expectations, but they're also reaching higher and higher. Yeah. And when you just keep adding on different drops or launches or all of that it's just more technical issues you know yeah yeah um and well you know and speaking of reaching higher and higher and uh you know climbing to uh ambition growing uh i wanted to say towards the top here, everybody check out the podcast, the right YouTube, which we've been putting up things a little bit here and there. Mike, I was going to ask you, we got to put up the it was on Twitter, but the video you sprung on me at the yes, at the live show, the baby Grinch reason for the season video. I'll put that up. But I wanted to get people to the YouTube

because I have done a new cut of the, maybe a highlight of 2019, at least for me personally, the Michael Eisner hello video, which was acknowledged by Michael Eisner himself. I collected, in that original video, 67 hellos from various sources. Due to a new channel I found, Walt Disney Introductions.

Credit to them. And one from the Imagineering story. There was a hello I noticed that I've only seen in the, because now I know all of them. I know where he's standing. I know how many characters he's with. Is he by a lake? Is he by a different lake? Which version of Pooh is he with? What I'm getting at is he by a different lake uh uh which version of poo is he with what

i'm getting at is i've done a new cut hello 2020 and it has gone from 67 hellos to 104 hello oh my god so that is only on the podcast the right youtube that's incredible growth that's over a third more i forget the percentage is it is it too long to put on twitter as well now no i think it's still because it is paired to just hellos i think it's still yeah i think i could still throw that on or i could just just do the new section well the twitter one because i yeah when we were saying 2020 one of the things we haven't talked we haven't done really a powwow meeting yet about guests and stuff but michael eisner is maybe guest like wanted guest number one yeah yeah that was so well we were texting about this the country bears thing because there was a thread on the facebook we noticed it was like what do you want for 2020 the first the

top two things were eisner and uh country bears so we yeah we should talk strategy about how do we do this is it a petition is it another round of twitter like tweeting at him with the video because he famously has retweeted us once yeah with the original hello video but i think that because first of all there's no dm option um i think i'm not sure that a Twitter campaign will be heard. Eisner's DMs are not open. They are not open. Cannot slide into Michael Eisner's DMs. Goodbye.

So, I don't know. I mean, like, I think tweeting, I love that when he tweets, like, he tweeted his rise of skywalker opinions which was fun to see nick mundy uh had our back and immediately responded go on podcasts to ride got a lot of likes if he's noticing what's getting likes i also i was checking the stats when he retweeted our video which if you haven't seen it it's a super cut of every time he says hello uh introducing disney movies um i was checking his stats like a crazy person. That was one of his 10 most popular tweets of all time. Sure, wow. And it wasn't like a retweet

or like of like original content Eisner tweets. I mean, it demolished most tweets about the soccer team he owns. No offense to the soccer team. Right. But our video was more popular than... If we took up a british soccer stadium and just played that montage in a loop we'd sell it out way easier than whatever the soccer team is called right we are more popular than the soccer team yes absolutely yeah yeah so he's

got to do it and with that guy but with things like putting down his soccer team i'm sure we're definitely gonna get him here. You're already going to get hit with a bottle by Arsenal fans or whatever. Oh, no. They're going to find me in America or throw it so far from me. Throw it so far. They're so good at throwing bottles. It's going to hit me in the valley.

Is it a petition? I don't know how many listeners we have, honestly. I think a polite email is usually that would be my i mean the real answer yes is that i've sent a polite email i did it without uh maybe you shouldn't say it uh yeah to uh not to a direct channel but somebody who should be in the circle no response maybe it was the wrong email maybe it was a i should we should send it to multiple emails though i i think like office culture email you you sometimes do need to send five like of the the kind of banal like hey following up checking in the stuff like

individually you might hate but like in a corporate, that is kind of the dance, right? You know? Yeah. I think that would work. I honestly think. That is the dance. We just stay. Yeah, I think so. The dance of death. Well, and maybe we have to try.

We have to get multiple of these emails. We have to find. If anyone has some way to. I'm on IMDB Pro, and that didn't get me any closer to having info for him or his company because like that's i think it's like a some pr representative and we threw some stats their way that's what the angle i did uh yeah yeah um i mean do we have new stats that would be like stats that like is he like oh wow the downtown disney ordeal did a certain amount of numbers. Like, it's hard to tell what Mr. I mean, the stat is 18 stages.

Oh, really? 18 stages. Well, then I got to see what these guys are about. 18 stages. Oh, my God. I have to talk to these men. They have respect for La Brea Bakery like you haven't seen. Meet me at Catall.

Is it the Eisner table at katal my table katal in the back we'll break all the rules we'll don't if this if this episode if he only gives us 15 minutes that's okay oh yeah if he if we have to record it while he's like jogging or something we'll do like however we need to fit it into his schedule if he just wants to talk about the football team. Yeah, that's fine. It's not my favorite, but... Club. I think you say football club. Football club. You're right. FC?

This guy will trick him by knowing all of his phrases. Michael, do you want to come on and talk a little footy? Your footy club? Do you think we ask... We do another episode tony baxter first and we go tony could you drive us to michael eisner's house we knock on the door i think the answer is no okay fine that's presumptuous but does he know

and you're saying he knows where eisner lives i don't know i'm not sure i don't know anything about that where he is um uh i've gone up to Lake Arrowhead a couple times, and I took the boat tour once that just goes around the lake, and they point out houses. Oh, yeah. That used to be Michael Eisner's. I know where Mike Love lives now. Whoa.

Wait, in what city? In Arrowhead? Mm-hmm. Whoa. There's also kind of an infamous house. Yeah, mm, good vibrations coming out of there. I think the residents hate him. Is it Hagar?

Some like 80s rocker bought two big houses next to each other and connected them to make like an architectural monstrosity. And the townsfolk hate him. Jeez. Yeah. Sammy wouldn't do that. It seemed like a big like 90s like place if you had money and then because they were like that used to or that is or used to be eric lasalle's house and that was the one with a 20 car garage jay leno bought uh i think a lot of these have flipped a couple times you know sure but like have i i don't want to side check

too much have i talked on the show about uh seeing dennis rodman's house in newport beach no no okay so uh this is in the 90s uh i spent a lot of summers down there and my dad and i were on a bike ride and he's like i've heard rodman moved in around here i wonder what what is the how i like i wonder if we'll be able to tell i think it's in this neck of the woods we'll see so we're like on this bike ride going i wonder is this and then suddenly we see a the biggest hummer i have ever seen more than blocking the bike path uh it it has his face massive on the back uh the pattern on the hood of the car is a bunch of airbrushed naked women all drawn to have breast implants, and they are all touching themselves. And the license plate has an abbreviated version of this, and the car says it really big,

Wool Patrol. What? Which I guess is some, it's like about pubic hair? That's what I, I guess? He loves, Rodman loves wool. Good, just wool. I mean, like getting warm with some wool. God, I've never even heard that before. I think it was a coincidence.

He hired a decoy to throw people off the trail. Yeah, he lives across the street. He lives in the ocean. He's like in some underground pod house. Oh, yeah, yeah. You got to take a submarine to get there. No, but then driving back the other way uh uh i we watched him coming out and plumes of smoke and a smell that made me for the first time in my life say dad what's that smell so that was the very what

a cool way to discover the smell of dad what's the wool patrol how do i join it's much different than the paw patrol this car is a famous thing too if you google dennis rodman hummer you will discover yeah because you got to see this for yourself it's uh it's unbelievable i guess i gotta do it right now i will guarantee we will do the dennis rodman i wish it was a car you could ride i I wish it was, uh, if that was an option on radiator. Yeah, you got it. Oh, it looks like shit.

It's really stupid. It's stupid as hell. I mean, I, that obviously sounded stupid and bad, but this looks like shit. It's yeah, no,

it's not a cool kind of, it's very similar to when, uh, Tom Green painted sluts on his parents' car and it said slut movie. It's like that. Oh, right, right. That variety of just super trash. Right.

But his, I'm not sure if his was funny on purpose. I don't think it was. It doesn't seem to be. All right. So yeah, full Rodman Hummer episode coming. Back to, real quick to Eisner. Yeah. Iger supposedly, Bob Iger supposedly leaving as CEO.

Is there any movement to get Michael Eisner back in the CEO position at Disney? There are rules about this. So there are term limits. Can you go back like Jerry Brown as governor of California? I think you can. And I think maybe with some like lieutenant CEOs with Mr. Eisner. Three to be exact. That's right.

With Eisner at the helm and three lieutenant ceos of the disney corporation mike yes faceless faceless characterless faceless developed developless all the time and he'll just yeah hello hello hello gosh we've really added to the ip of the show today yeah yeah so that yeah maybe that's it maybe we push for jobs went back jobs went back to apple jobs went back to apple yeah eiser can go back i don't think there's any sort of he's gotta save it just like he's gotta save his ailing company that's right i don't know if that's accurate i think it's doing great but like uh sailing in my eye,

because there aren't fun specials anymore. Yeah, he needs to host the specials again. We need direct-to-DVD sequels of all these movies. We need them back. Oh, you're saying so not like Lady and the Tramp. We don't want live-action Lady and the Tramp on Disney+. We want cheaply animated Lady and the Tramp 4 that involves time travel. If you really are being honest with yourself, what would you rather have?

The boring same movie that's just live action or like some bizarre thing where Lady and the Tramp go to space? Of course. Lady and the Tramp go to space. Of course. It's better. Hell yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. the trip go to space of course it's better hell yeah yeah absolutely i well i disney plus allowed me to see for the first time uh aladdin 3 what's it called the king of the uh king of kings with his father right yeah yeah with his hot dad yeah yeah that was that wasn't overhyped and williams

comes back yes but he's number two was cast in Lynetta. Yes. Right. Yep. So crazy. And you get in Aladdin and King of Thieves something more memorable than any of these boring. If you'd only do shot for shots, you're not going to get dynamic things like the genie transforming into Mrs. Doubtfire. Yes.

Incredible. Historic moment. fire yes incredible historic moment like that that one thing is more interesting than live action beauty and the beast Aladdin like all of them put together yeah yeah well we there's only one solution is bring back Eisner yeah reinstall Eisner as CEO let's get crazy with three youngish lieutenants young on the CEO scale there's not a lot of ceos our age yeah they're all um well they're all palpatine youngish fixers youngish hooded eddie mannix kind of fixers i think yeah i think we have the two-year track record of ideas to prove that we belong there at this point yeah we're tossing off left and right i was gonna i can't remember the rest of the water i could only remember haldeman i couldn't remember the rest of nixon's

lieutenant you were trying to name haldeman john dean yeah dean uh yeah who else was in there yeah rumsfeld i don't know rumsfeld yeah probably young um genie ro Roger Stone. Stone. We do have the back tech. We have the Eisner back tech. Yeah. Yeah. We got to get him on just to show him our Eisner back tech. Yeah.

And I'll show him the prototype of my action figure I created for him. Man, we got it. Okay. Well, if anyone listening has any ideas or any like ins to get him, please let us know. Anything else you wanted to hear on the show this year also, please. We're excited. I think there's a lot of fun stuff coming. We can, we got a lot of stuff in Orlando now we can talk about that I've been again that we all went recently.

It's sort of what we're doing today. I don't know where it lives. We did a McGruff episode. We unlocked a Patreon episode. There's a Patreon if you're just new to the podcast. There's three of you, four episodes for free every month. There are three extra episodes you can pay $5 for. We unlocked in one of those episodes last week about McGruff's singing career.

Yeah. And I think we can also promise for 2020, probably on the Patreon, but I don't know, is McGruff 2. Wow, we're announcing it. We're saying we should announce it. There's some exciting developments that we don't want to tip too much. It's really good. And I think we can say even we haven't heard.

McGruff 2 will consist of things we have not yet heard. Yeah. Thanks to some help that we're getting. And I don't want to say much more. And I'm working on some other leads. I'm hoping those are going to pan out. Wow. This is exciting.

It's very exciting. Let me ask you a quick question here. Because this is totally a sidetrack. And we shouldn't do it because we're already behind. It's come to my attention that there is a misconception among human beings that McGruff's first name is Scruff. I know. Okay, I fucked that up.

No, no. Twice now. I'm not even trying to accuse you because Lindsay, I was talking to her last night, and she also thought that his first name was Scruff. Scruff, of course, is his nephew. But then there's a famous jingle, Scruff, McGruff, Chicago, Illinois, 60652. first name was scruff scruff of course is his nephew but then there's a famous jingle scruff

mcgruff chicago illinois yeah 60652 did you also think his first name was yes and i think we talk about this on the episode do we i i think me i think i brought this up on the episode and when we unlocked it i just went back into my notes and scheduled a similar tweet to the first one. Oh, interesting. So both times you called it Scruff McGruff? Yes. I forgot my own lived experience. Wow.

Wow. I may have thought that at one point in time until we sat and discussed it at length. But McGruff has one name like Madonna. I think the jingle is what got me because you were supposed to address the male to Scruff McGruff. Why do you address it to Scruff? Because Scruff is his net. Lindsay is shouting from the kitchen. Why would they say

it? It's because in the commercial, Scruff is a little like Robin Muppet style little dog that's When did addressing it to Scruff McGruff begin and why would you send it to the net? When did addressing it to Scruff McGruff begin and why would you send it to the next one? I think that's later

that's in the 90s when they created the IP of Scruff and added like they probably thought you needed a child to sympathize like that was your way into the McGruff world. You sort through the mail I don't have time to do this shit. As a kid I loved getting mail although it was very exciting if there was mail for me.

So the answer is they send it to Scruff because kids like getting mail more. It's more of a novelty. I'm not convinced that it was Scruff's secret. Well, it was to both of them. I think that was the idea. It was to both of them. Yeah, you'll get it. And it'll weave through the creepy ones.

People send in McGruff their underwear or whatever. Scruff will throw that out. Keep them coming. Oh, no. That's the mail I want. Sniff, sniff. He's a pervert, apparently. Yeah.

In the commercial, he's talking to his nephew. And he goes, this is my nephew scruff so like he lays it out like he explains anyway uh so mcgruff 2 he's gonna get the paper cuts so i don't gotta coming in 2020 mcgruff 2 wow to some part i don't know which part of it we'll see how epic it is that's okay if that's not a uh, you know, indicator of what's going on at patriot.com slash podcast. Right. Yeah. Go subscribe.

The second gate. And we'll, um, remind you that at the end too. Lots of fun stuff coming. Yeah. Um, you want to talk about this thing now?

Let's get to the main, that was a lot, that was a lot of fun business. I'm glad we had some business. Uh, but now we have this business of Hagrid's magical creatures, motor bike adventure, which we were fortunate enough to go on several months ago while in Orlando. But now we have this business of Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure,

which we were fortunate enough to go on several months ago while in Orlando. This is a big one. This is a good one. This is a hell of a ride. Yeah. I don't know. I think of the stuff that opened in 2019, maybe the thing I enjoyed the most? Yeah. Yeah. Of individual individual attractions i'll say well because like you're sort of like uh galaxy's edge is this huge this amazing experience um but that's a full land yeah i think and not complete in my eyes yet because i haven't done rise of the resistance yes uh and that and if

that truly is the like real showstopper um then yeah we haven't gotten to do it yet um but yeah the the showstoppers we were fortunate enough to do this is well it's a good and we could you know we could say right away i i wanted to get into this notion uh mike you brought this up uh it was it was it's a bold statement but i think i might agree with you best ride in orlando oh did i i don't even remember bringing um that's a good question yeah i having thought about it it's like this is certainly in the top five maybe at the very least pretty quickly out the gate gate. Most expensive, I think, in Orlando. Really? Ever?

Rough budget is $300 million. Is that right? Yes. Jeez. I did not come across that number. It's the longest roller coaster in Florida. It has seven launches, which I sure will get into. That is the most worldwide.

Wow. That's the most launches anywhere. Anywhere. Wow. Only the second in America to have a drop, too. Wow. That's the most launches anywhere. Anywhere. Only the second in America to have a drop. Yeah. Which, oh, well, here, spoiler. I want to say,

this is maybe an episode you should not listen to, if you want to be surprised by this ride. As we, as I got to, I think as we all got to, did you guys know what happened on this thing? I kind of knew what happened. Yeah, I read about it. I was foolish. I think as we all got to, did you guys know what happened on this thing? I kind of knew what happened. Yeah, I read about it. I was foolish.

I know too much about Rise of the Resistance, too, but I'm trying to stay away. But I did know a little too much, so I'm trying to stay away from Rise of the Resistance. I knew nothing. And I think if I'd known some of the things that this ride does, I might not have gotten on it. I might have said, that sounds too scary. Oh, wow. So I'm really glad I didn't do it. But truly, if you're concerned about spoilers spoilers maybe skip way ahead on this one because this is it is it's really

something if you don't know what's coming and they do a good job of keeping you surprised like i don't there's so many things on this where i it happened and i was like what how crazy What? How? Crazy. It seems like this and then Rise, from what I know about Rise, the Resistance are like really going to play with your expectations in a very cool way. And that's what this one does. I guess we can say it now

because we've spoiler, but like there's a drop, the track drops on this roller coaster, which is crazy. About stories i think oh i said i saw 18 feet yeah it's not that oh yeah which is equal to the other ride in the world that does this which another spoiler if you want to be surprised if you don't want to hear what it is okay here now go away okay now the ride is at bush gardens williamsburg and it's called verbolton which is a snazzy jazz up of verboten the word the german word for forbidden it's like a crazy like german forest right it's like sort of

a cousin of hager interesting yeah a beautiful park bush gardens williamsburg built in the woods and built on water like it's uh really cool my family went there a few times growing up oh really i don't i didn't know anything about it so i watched a little of the ride through of this thing and yeah it seemed like when you're like like the the big drop on this thing where you're sort of like looking over the forest yeah it seems wonderful i think the premise of that ride or at least the um initial teaser video was that like you were racing down the autobahn and then got struck by lightning and i think that's pretty rock and roll i think that's pretty fun hell yeah hell yeah well and then you end up in like but

then it's like and then it's kind of like magical creatures stuff so it's like a like is it that the lightning takes you to another like you're just on the regular german the awesome german freeway and then you go into like fairyland oh sure yeah that probably adds up they have like a vr fairy uh theater thing too so there's a lot of like interesting stuff in bush gardens they call some what are the big like body of water there they call the rhine so it is like a little mini German area. That seems cool. That does seem cool.

Yeah. I mean, what else? Like stats-wise. The stats are crazy for sure. That's the longest coaster in Florida. Yeah. Almost a mile long. Oh, top speeds of 50 miles an hour.

Really good. Very good. That's crazy. Yeah. It almost doesn't, it is fast. It's, I'm trying to think,

like, my feelings on it was, it's not often, I feel like, that you get on something ride-wise that really you go, oh,

I don't, I've never felt this before. Like, like, because, you know, you go on roller coasters and sometimes they're similar.

Or, like, even, like, Radiator Springs Racer, which is, like Is that the last big ride before Millennium Falcon opened here? I think so. Yeah. It's great. It's fantastic.

But it's not unlike a sensation I had felt on a ride before. Being that it's sort of the bones of Test Track. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Once you realize there's crossover there yeah this thing is so i imagine like rearrange it like yeah i guess there was there was technically a drop on a coaster before there's like a couple things that have been done but they're rearranged in this really

surprising way yeah and down to like you know i i got i got fooled by things so easily like the indiana jones adventure before it where you feel the sputter and the motor. Yes. And you forget, well, that doesn't have. No. Right. Yeah. Like any errors in the old dusty car are manufactured.

And it's similar with the bike, where it's like motor sputtering and shaking. And they made all that up. That doesn't happen. It's a very clean roller coaster. And feeling the great beast breathe between your legs on the flight of passage is not actually the mighty Akron. It's just an illusion. Yeah.

It's Avatar. It's Avatar. But yeah, no, yes. There's just like little, those little touches, really. The ride vehicle is a motorbike and a sidecar. Yeah. Which is. Two different experiences. Yes, right, which is

very, very cool. Is that unprecedented? Do we know? Because it's a different level. It's a different level. I have to say, I messed up. Well, boarding this is very interesting. I thought, I did the motorcycle first, and I thought that was

such a, I've never ridden a motorcycle in real life. And I was like, holy shit, to be on a roller coaster track in that posture going that fast was very exciting. The sidecar is good, too, but I wish I had done the sidecar first because it felt like a D heightening to me. Yeah. Yeah. I did the other way. And i agree i i think i yeah i i mean i think uh sidecar is cool in its own way yeah but yeah it might be yeah motorcycle might be superior have you not been on any other coasters that are motorcycle ish like tron which is only in shanghai yeah i haven't done tron we did a bunch of times the pony express at knots that's as if you're riding a horse that is a similar unique sensation uh with much more unique restraints uh but that is like you're sitting

you lean forward and even just like roller coasters your brain you just get trained to like lean back and these you have to lean forward and just like white knuckle any handles or whatever. Yeah. It's pretty exciting. Yeah. And you get pretty tricked. It feels like you're driving the thing. When we did, I got front row, I think, too.

I was in the front row. At Hagrid's? Yeah, at Hagrid's. Which is just like there's nothing in front of you, obviously. So like you really, your brain starts to go like like I can drive a motorcycle pretty well. That's pretty cool. We should maybe address a little. It's probably not.

It's a tiny elephant in the room. It's a baby on the room. How did we get on this thing? I will only I don't want to I don't want to say much except that I will recognize this is a very hard attraction to get on. And I want to recognize and acknowledge that we got onto this because of podcast privilege. Yeah, we pulled some strings. We got to pull some strings. It's like the second time we've ever done that.

Yeah, yeah. And it worked. What a place to do it. Oh, my God. Thanks, people who helped magical creatures. Yes, thank you, Hagrid and friends. Yeah, thanks, Hagrid. Hagrid.

We know Hagrid. Boys, hello. Boys, boys. hagrid we know hagrid boys hello um boys so full disclosure i did have to go back and watch a bunch of videos of the queue to try i know i'm so sorry everyone we skipped the line and we got to skip the line and then we got to they for completeness sake it was so nice it was like okay so do it motorcycle and then do it sidecar we got to do both in a row right away. It was unbelievable. And sorry to anyone who hasn't gotten on this thing.

But, hey, I don't know. We got to get something for – we've been entertaining people for a little bit. It was nice to reap a little reward. And it was great. Thanks for helping us. Yes, that was wonderful. Yeah, so that's – I don't't think it was just by happenstance so i got to go front row i think it was just oh yeah sometimes it just works out i didn't demand

that no i wouldn't be that bold but that that brings up a good point the loading of this for a roller coaster is very unique it's a continuously loading moving yes platform similar to um haunted mansion or forbidden journey it's kind of a stressful entrance kind of like go go go guys go go go like we i don't think we you're sort of dilly-dallying what should i pick and then like no get on get up it is a little uh it's a little jammed in there there is even there in the queue there is a video uh uh saying like here is how to get on don't stop walking get on the motorcycle first and then get in the side. Oh, okay.

And kind of done in, it reminded me, I think on purpose, of like an old British informational pamphlet. Sort of like not quite the look around you aesthetic. Yeah. That's the show I'm thinking of, right? Yeah, yeah. The fake British educational show. It's very dry and yeah yeah but kind of done

in that in a drawn pamphlet information pamphlet style that's cool i missed that one i actually haven't watched that yeah are you is that different because in the queue there is also like hagrid explaining sort of that is different yeah so there is like that uh digital uh like projection projection like like how harry and the kids are in gringotts they have the same like Yeah, so there is like that digital... Like projection. Projection. Like how Harry and the kids are... In Gringotts, they have the same... And in Hogwarts, you know how you see them kind of come out, but they're just like a projection?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's sort of like that. It's Hagrid and Mr. Weasley, Ron's father. Did you watch that video, by the way? Which, the... The them... Talking? The pre-show a little bit yeah it's i thought it was very funny because i feel like the actor playing ron's father is giving

110 and i feel like hagrid is a little sleepy all right contract says i gotta do this a little green screen at like when he's swinging the umbrella around i'm like oh come on man give us a little more i know when you're that tall you you it's you don't move that fast but i'm like wait he's so lively in the movies how tall is he we're talking about robbie yeah robbie is the people from the film in both cases yes yeah yeah it is right i have robbie coltrane and mark mark williams in fairness they may not have been there the same day uh yeah who knows he's only six one is he yeah i'm taller than him i'm two inches taller than robbie coltrane i'm taller than hagrid and i move around okay why

you had to let us on the ride he thought you'd beat him up hmm i'm not how am i sleepy do i because i'm so sometimes just i mean today i'm very sleepy today i always say i don't think you've had a good night's sleep since i met you oh yeah but that's not that's not my height though that's true yeah yeah that's anxiety um no it's fun i'm just teasing a little because like it's uh it's hard to do green screen acting and squad of pixies that aren't there and sure well and all in one take the nature of this kind of scene yeah they have to in a little projected scene you got to do it all in in one just like arrow smith and iliana douglas um i think they really i think the uh animation of the bikes um in that little sequence is wonderful. It's really blunt, silly, physical gag.

What is the... Wait, I have a little bullets of what that is. So this is explaining the premise of the ride. So Hagrid is going to take you to a special care of magical creatures class. You're going to board a bike and he's going to take you to see some creatures. Arthur Weasley is doing some work on the bike and he's gonna magically duplicate it uh which happens

but then fang uh hagrid's boar hound releases cornish pixies accidentally who fly around and and blow up the other yeah it's pretty crazy's pretty crazy. Full on explode. Yeah, yeah. It gets pretty extreme. But seeing the bikes like clang up and down and fly and move in this really, it's like very silly

and fun, could communicate to people who don't know Harry Potter or the English language. It's great. And they fit in a little universal

spray gag. Yes. They gotta splash you in the face. Yeah. They have to do it. Which is what? That's Hagrid, like there's something like he has to spray us i forget why mr weasley is putting

out the fires with water sprays from his wand okay okay um and then what is the like the the is it is it my correct that they didn't completely change the queue of what was there before which is at one point dueling dragons and then called dragon challenge yeah this was an original odds of adventure ride you know better than me probably yeah yeah so they this is the second time they have retrofitted this queue uh they uh changed dueling dragons into dragon challenge to make it fit in with Wizarding World stuff a little more, kind of taking it from Lost Continent, from the land next door, and sort of absorbing it into the Harry Potter land.

And when they did that, they retrofitted the queue a little and kept that small stone, the loading building. Okay, sure. And then they did it again for this and there's a video online actually universal orlando put it on their official channel they did a full q walkthrough uh in like very clear like 4k i guess the idea being we'd prefer you not bring cameras onto this ride. Oh, yeah. It did not stop people from strapping GoPros to themselves and recording ride-throughs. But I think to build excitement. And it's a long queue.

Like, it is very long. It goes through all this wooded areas and then through the building and then finally to the loading area. And then once you get inside, there's lots of little there's like broken up dragons eggs and little cocoons and like other stuff because okay hagrid is you know he takes care of the animals and it's the groundskeeper at harry potter and uh please don't yell at me if i don't have that language correct oh yeah not a hundred percent i'm trying totally i'm trying my best uh yeah so it's been retrofitted a couple times. It was interesting because I watched one video

that showed what Dueling Dragons Dragon Challenge looked like compared to what Hagrid's looked like. And in 1999, lower expectations for landscaping. It's just metal. It's just beams. It's just a coaster. It's just coaster and empty lots. There's just a coaster there's it's just coaster and empty lots there's no attempt to dress up the area around it compared to hagrid's which is like

hidden and they actively tried to hide the ride and they planted a thousand trees in this area to make to simulate the forest it's such an insane campus yeah uh so much and such a like actual they they made it such actual nature that among the many problems this ride has had there was at one point a couple months ago a bee infestation yes uh and i i maybe heard that a little and i was like what so there was a hive and they had to get rid of the hive it wasn't much crazier than that you guys are a little far away from this picture but i found this photo all of the black specks in this photo are bees it was like a really nuts bee infestation and i think uh the the type of bee uh whatever it is specifically is a protected species in Florida. So to get rid of them was a whole process. Yeah.

Yeah. I missed all of this stuff. This wasn't just some sort of like opening day idea, like the ice machine that would an Indiana Jones that would drop like, like rock debris on your car. This wasn't an idea. Like maybe we'll try live bees. And then if it doesn't work,

I've lost control of me bees lost control of me bees he doesn't sound like that he doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like shrek oh arg we don't really have a hagrid no i don't at all uh no and they weren't drones they weren't put there by the part they weren't little little bead tiny bead drones uh good idea though they just raise bees and unleash the bees. Oh, man. They should genetically engineer bees without the stinger. Oh, yeah.

So then you get the noise, and then you can unleash bees on different motorcycles during the ride. Sure. So flies. You've invented flies. You've invented yellow flies. Yellow flies. If you paint them. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do some little dye drops on each fly that's the next level that i've heard actually rise of the resistance there are uh genetically engineered bees to keep the weight to scare people away keep the wait times down also though uh emperor palpatine unleashes uh a bunch of bees on you in one of the scenes i i just didn't pick up on that just like i was texting you the other day like that first scene was supposed to be mustafar that's true yes rise of skywalker the first scene when kylo ren is like wrecking guys but he's just killing guys that's supposed to be the planet that vader's castle is on the lava planet but it's supposed

to be cooling so that's why it's not oh. It didn't pick up on that at all. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway, bees. So there are no bees now. They got rid of them on this attraction. But there are many wonderful creatures. You want to talk some creatures?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the big... I didn't realize all the mythology of this since I'm not really a Harry Potter person, but the big deal in this attraction is that you get to see the Blast Ended Scroot. And that is a creature that was never seen in the films. So it's the first time it's ever physicalized. Yeah, I saw it's in Goblet of Fire, apparently. So yeah, this is the physical debut of this creature is on this ride.

Kind of terrifying creature. Like a scorpion with no head that also shoots fire. It's a weird, like it's just, it is like, just like a shitting machine. It looks like a weird,

like only a butthole. Yeah. It's like if you got cursed by a genie or something in a bad way, you become a blast-ended scroot. A blast-ended scroot. And I made by a genie or something in a bad way, you become a blast-ended scroot. A blast-ended scroot. And I made it a genie, not a magician.

I had to bring genies into this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a magic ride. Well, we were talking about genies earlier. The genie. Also magicians. Harry Potter's not a magician. No.

Oh, technically wizard. Harry Potter, the magician. It would be, it does make the whole thing a lot it does make hogwarts into like the magic castle which makes it a lot less interesting i like the magic castle a lot don't get me wrong i'm just saying that like this is a place where kids go to learn magic tricks i wouldn't send any kids to the magic castle no i'd be careful about that yeah yeah yeah but if harry potter could cross over with the now you see me universe i mean well he kind of did with daniel radcliffe showing up oh that's true playing arthur tressler's son yeah spoiler alert sorry spoiler alert for everyone's favorite franchise well i forgot about daniel radcliffe being in it till very recently that was

that i watched the film and it just like left my brain as soon as it entered. Yes. It speeds as fast as this coaster. The creature kind of reminded me of the Tremor, like of a Tremor. Oh, yeah. The Tremors with like a molten lava asshole. That's the only way I can. Sorry.

Yeah. How do they eat seat hole great i fixed my vulgarity again i always can fix it but they yeah they they glow with many different colors and are just steaming and this is a this is a bad creature to be. This is like the weird, the horrible, you know, like the limbless creatures created by KFC who live in cramped cages. The blast-headed Scrooge is like an abomination.

Also, Hagrid made him. Like, genetically, like, bred him or grew him. So he's like a Dr. Moreau style? I actually don't know a ton about apologies about the harry potter he's always getting into mischief is that do you know that canonical are you yeah i am saying that canonically like he had a dragon he wasn't supposed to have a dragon so he created his dragon i think he's a i think he was breeding stuff okay is this a fuck up on the way to drag? Did he mess up and then go Oh it's the last

Ended Screwed Yeah that's the ticket I think there is John Lovitz is the liar character He loves it He's always doing something like he's not Not supposed to

I guess he is always like doing crazy stuff Like crazy stuff out in the forbidden forest and his little house i didn't know he was playing god out there well i guess he is uh i yeah i make a little mini version of himself who plays the piano someone draw that please hagrid and mini hagrid if you don't know we're talking about island of dr moreau the val kilmer version uh marlon Brando in it, and it's the basis for Mini-Me for Austin Powers 2. Oh, yeah.

I didn't... Now, I knew that part, but I didn't know until the really great documentary about the making of Dr. Moreau that the piano part was... I thought that was full-on Austin Powers invention. Oh, no. But there is a little tiny piano i didn't know that it's marlon brando playing the piano and then there's a tinier version of him on top of the piano playing a little piano yes yeah and that is real also i've read that everyone

in the movie is cursed that made that movie there's like a there's like a feeling that yeah like yeah the whole cast got cursed by that movie that there was just bad that's why val kilmer looks like val kilmer does now well yeah and he had a an issue with his health a severe health issue yeah i didn't know that and i'm making fun of him well you know i meant mark twain that's right yeah that's what you meant he looks permanently looks like mark twain uh but yeah there's there's that movie is very interesting uh there should be some sort of experience based on that one back more oh man yeah that's also you know that's one of epic universes by surprise it's not fantastic beats it beats it's dr it's dr i think i read that

book in school and then i saw there was a movie so i watched the movie and I was like this is very different yeah honestly you know everything is IP right now so as I'm saying this I was like someone should make a new island of Dr. Moreau and do it like Superman Returns where you take

old Marlon Brando footage if it's a Marlon Brando property we gotta find all the footage we can oh my god that's such a great idea every movie he's ever made from like on the waterfront on you should look for his like b-roll foot or like his cut scenes and piece it together in the new version of the island of dr moreau so we like it you can then you can tell an epic story. Yeah, he was young and in black and white to when he's older. All eras. Yes.

Yeah. You could repurpose what was shot for Scary Movie 2. Oh, yeah. It became James Woods. Andy Richter is in the scene. Andy Richter, I believe, acted with Marlon Brando in a scene never released. Right. But this footage does exist.

So, yeah, you could take... And him as an exorcist could be repurposed to be him as a doctor. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's... Also, you could repurpose the footage of his interview with Larry King. Send me an angel. They sing like 40s ditties together.

Yeah. And then they kiss. Yes. It's like as ditties together. Yeah. And then they kiss. Yes. It's like a sweet kiss between Larry and Marlon. Yes. Marlon is kind of antagonizing Larry the whole time during the interview, which is kind of funny. Then they sing some old standards together

and then they kiss on the mouth. This is the sort of abomination in front of God that only Hagrid can cook up in the woods. Twisted horror. My strangest creature yet. Larry King. Late in life Marlon Brando

in the tan suit from that one music video. And also the score. You mean the Michael Jackson one? The You Rock My World video? Yeah, right. There's gotta be footage there's gotta be extra footage from that too. music video and also the score he never changed the michael jackson one did you rock my world video yeah right there's gotta be footage there's gotta be extra footage from that too yeah and do you guys you know about when he was at that michael jackson concert uh right before 9-11 and he was just rolled down on a couch and sunglasses and he rambled about like kids are getting killed with machetes and like at that michael jackson you just got to see like, all right, all right.

So coming up, the Jackson 5 reuniting for the first time in 20 years. But first, Marlon Brando saying whatever he wants on a couch. I saw that. But they didn't even announce it. It was just they just rolled it out and he started talking. I've seen that special, but I do not know. It's not a special. The only footage is like grainy, like somebody just had a camera and filmed it.

Madison Square Garden. This sounds like a half-remembered Dana Carvey show, or Exit 57. One of those sketch shows that I'm like, yeah, I kind of remember that. Yeah, yeah. An old man on a couch. Yeah, it feels like a sketch. Where do we put Marlon? I don't know. After Spacey

oddities, maybe Brando oddities. Sure. I'm vouching for... I'd love Travolta as well. Oh, man. We both made the same noise. Too hard? That one's too difficult? No, no. I just...

Have you seen Every Little Step? Yeah, of course i've seen every little step please who do i take you for once a month uh please look up john travolta every little step oh yes uh you've seen the like newer videos he's made with olivia newton john that are like low five like low res yeah like in like no budget and they're just singing i forget what song it is. I found a weird one where he's playing a giant game of hide and seek in a YouTuber's. No, it's in his house, but he invites a YouTuber over to play hide and seek with his whole family.

Oh my God. And he has a GoPro strapped to his head and you get to hear all his thoughts about like, well, I think they'll see me if I stay on top of, if I stay next to the cabinet. So I'm going to move over into the crawlspace the strange like you it's like being inside his head it's like a being John Malkovich of oh my gosh you are playing

hide and seek inside of John Travolta not quite the most dangerous game but it's some sort of game all right Travolta oddities as well yeah oh boy new episodes left and right uh uh okay back to back to uh where

are the creatures if we're staying on this yeah yeah we can also just like talk through the order of events of the of the ride yeah I have opening opening day stuff too sure um but yeah what other creature well

you see um well here that takes us through the yeah okay here i'll go through the i'll go through the order of things so you get you get on the thing it starts uh sputtering uh it takes off and it's very exciting right away and there's good little moves right away but it's just a preview of what's to come but it is very exciting from the second from that very first launch then you end up in a little hut and you see the blast and it's screwed and he glows and then he kind of breathes some smoke and you take off uh oh and the haggard aggronomic very good animatronic garter holt animatronics of course is it garter it is yeah oh it's yeah the only

the only uh complaint i have about the animatronics is that we're not close to them like we are in like the riot and the first uh forbidden journey right is that the way when i'm uh uh you mean when you're really close to the dragon yeah like close to the dragon and close to the riot and the first uh forbidden journey right is that the way when i'm uh you mean when you're really close to the dragon yeah like close to the dragon and close to the spiders and stuff like i just wish i could see them closer i've been this i can't do it i'm just like yeah i'm like oh that's awesome and it's a thing that elevates um the original harry potter ride yeah that's an aspect only that has that keeps it essential that's all i'm saying but it's really not a complaint it's just like a it looks at like they look awesome yeah that's all i'm saying they're very cool uh so then yeah hagrid animatronic then you take off there's this this huge straight away

that then goes up into a lift hill and then through an arch and this that section right after hagrid i feel like is the most exciting coaster part. It's a long stretch before more plot and characters happen that's super exciting. And there's big banks where you go all the way, tilt all the way 90 degrees to the left

and right. It's like a sizably wide vehicle. So when you go, I actually think the bank turns in the sidecar are pretty damn that's cool yeah yeah um another an interesting thing to me there's not a lot of like catwalks or infrastructure like i guess you're not high you're not super high off the ground in the way that uh dueling dragons was where they would need that infrastructure for evacuations. But it does help the immersion

and helps the theming that there's not a lot of like breaking the reality of zooming through the woods. That's true, yeah. And you're going so fast. It is just this blur of trees. Yes. Yeah, it's a very, it feels like a forest.

And we were told we couldn't, they're not running the ride a lot at night right now, but we were told that the night ride is the ultimate version of this ride. I assume because like there's big stretches that don't have much, like don't have many lights. So when you're zooming through, you're not seeing much of the track probably.

Well, I know the answer, a friend of the show, Carly Weisel, wrote an article about this. The lights at night are the headlights on the motorcycles. That's the lights. Right. That's it? Yeah.

So you don't know what the hell's happening to you. Suddenly it's Space Mountain. Yeah. Wow. The other thing she pointed out, any time in a natural, like a point in a roller coaster where you would naturally plateau, you launch. That's what kind of naturally plateau you launch that yes that's what kind of sets this apart oh that's a good way to put it yeah right right that's the sensation

that i one of the sensations i'm talking about when i'm saying like oh this is like new this feels new because generally in a roller coaster even the craziest ones i've been and i am not a coaster head i'm working my way up to it but even like the craziest ones i've done the the first part generally is where you get all your energy built up and then you're going through and you coast off of that energy the whole time on some of those there's like one midway point that's right an exciting surprise right yeah but this has what is it is it seven seven launches yeah so you're constantly feeling this refreshment of energy, essentially. It feels like a propulsion.

It's almost like a three-act structure a little bit. Yeah. And then like a grand finale, they save the biggest launch till the end. And they're less intense launches too. Yeah. Like if you had, you could take kids on this. Yeah. Like there is a height

requirement but it's not super intense it's kind of slinky dog dash similar right did that have multiple uh well there's a there's like it kind of i think it's there's there's only two launches there might be two because the middle one is like sort of that on slinky is like where they kind of reset and you go through those circle things yeah yeah and then you shoot up again uh yeah that slinky would be a good uh coaster for like your first coaster i mean they always you always say big thunder is a good sure like kind of even test for whatever you know if you're like 10 or 11 or maybe 16 or 17 and you haven't gone on things or in some cases with me uh how old was i last year i don't remember uh i was actually okay so yeah there are seven launches on this i was uh again

as i said there was i reading about this it's a ton of launches there's drops and there's like a spike quote unquote i don't know if i want to do this thing i'm so glad i became a launch queen as we've been recording yeah these episodes and i was trying to do some math i was okay so uh all right the biggest launch in this with most intense intense one is zero to 50 in three seconds uh in credit coaster felt like a crazy one to me but now i've now i'm a pro that's zero to 55 in four seconds rock and roller i would call the most intense one that I've done that's how it feels to me it's not that much but it's very fast

it's 0 to 57 in 2.8 seconds very significantly faster than these other ones and I mean just hearing hearing like loud bawdy rock and roll music also just makes experience so much more intense that is I mean you joke but

that is a good trick like pitch blackness loud music hulk you go through like you can't see where you're going and then you immediately twist coming out of it what is that launch we do we have an episode about this coming up i don't remember the numbers zero to 60 in two seconds or three it's that'd be tough for me i talk about it on the i can't pull it off the top of my head but um but certainly more than what we're talking about certainly more yeah yeah all coming up stay tuned all coming up yeah the hulk is i think i said it's more intense but i said it gets away with all it gets the psychological stuff out of the way quick which is my always my thing yeah it doesn't the build buildup is always worse than actually the ride itself.

So like Hulk, you have no time to think about any of the scary things on Hulk. No, in this one, buildup isn't even in the picture. It's all so joyous. Yes. Yeah, you're never, there's not one part of this. Well, no, hang on. Well, I guess I think we maybe are heading

to the scarier parts. Yes. You see Fluffy real quick, right? The three-headed dog. The three-headed dog. Very cute. Is he a boar? Is that also a boar hound?

Do we know? Or is he just a dog? I have a list here. Where is it? Oh, I don't have it right here. That's where I think it's supposed to evoke Cerebus, the devil dog. Oh, sure. The multi-headed devil dog.

Cool. I'm trying. Very cool. I'm trying. Yeah. Then, okay, just past that then you go through this like log the kind of log structure it's like a little mountain or something and there's a car on top of that what's the harry potter what is this in harry potter the car and the pixies are like dangling off of it is that the weasley car yeah

that's the weasley's flying car okay okay the car and the motorcycle are like oddities in the wizarding world because they don't really drive cars oh gotcha okay and that car is in the queue for forbidden journey right uh yeah some of them used to be in this queue did they take it out and put it over maybe they put it in hollywood i think it is i think in florida it was always in this queue i see but it's somewhere in the land sputtering just like stopped okay um so you go you go like through this like like under this little rock structure where that car is uh into some mist and when you come out the other side they do such a good job of hiding this that is what they at least the wikipedia calls a spike um where okay it's described as a spike that catapults guests 65 feet into the air at a more than 70 degree angle

followed by a backwards drop in one move so you just go like straight up and i that is that was the biggest surprise of it to me like what's this it's like a mini version a very very mini version of like the superman escape like like yeah uh um but that this is a thing i wouldn't have i would have been like i don't know if i want to go on this so when i was when that was just happening and i'm just staring straight up that scared the shit out of me luckily you aren't there for very long but it's so crazy how they hide it behind that mountain and then you're like what i'm just staring straight up now? And I went through mist, like my face is a little misty. Yeah, it surprised me in how, not just how sharp the angle is,

but how quick it is. Because Expedition Everest, you know, you come to the bent track part and you stop there for a while and then you go backwards. This was almost like a pendulum. You stop for a second and then you go backwards really quick. Yeah, yeah. And it's a similar moment in a coaster where they have to make a switch behind you

because now you've got to go backwards into a whole other section of track and into not the place you came from. So that's really fast to be up there for a little track switch to occur yeah i would i did not look at a video i would love to see it happen like i would love to see it how quick the switch is because yeah every time i've seen a video of some sort of track switch on a coaster it feels like it takes a little while that everyone feel like like you you have to stay there and sometimes

you get delayed up there seemingly yeah they make the switch And sometimes you get delayed up there, seemingly, while they make the switch. And then you get delayed on that when you finally end your backwards descent. Sometimes you get delayed there, too, because the track's got to switch. Oh, gotcha. But, yeah, both times we went on this part of it. We did get delayed a little bit in one of the sections. Yeah, yeah. But this part, yeah, was so quick.

Really? Yeah, no time to process. So cool. It was really, really cool. Yeah. And then you go backwards into a show building. And now you don't know where you are in this forest. Where was the show building hidden?

And that's like a cave. And there is a, again, I don't know Harry Potter things. What is the centaur kind of creature pointing an arrow at you? They live in the woods. Okay. They're noble creatures, but I believe it's standoffish. They enjoy the woods.

Now that I think is interesting because I think that's just a statue that there's a quick lighting cue to illuminate. Oh, not in Animal Crossing? I am not 100% sure. It looked stationary to me. But I thought it was a trick, right? It's to distract you because then the drop happens.

Not quite. Is that no? You keep going back. That thing's pretty far out of sight. Oh, okay. Because you have to go back into the Devil's Snare. The Devil's Snare. These malevolent vines that get a hold of you.

So you go, you keep going backwards and backwards and backwards and then you stop entirely and you look behind you and where do we go? What happens from here? And the room is getting

covered in these vines. That's creepy as hell. They did a great job with that effect. So where do we go? What do we do? Suddenly drop straight down. It is such a a shock did you guys both know about that yes yeah okay i didn't quite know how it was happening but i did read that um so i but like i think i even

read up the the thing going up i read about that but I totally like forgot about it. I didn't look up any pictures or videos. So I knew it, uh, right. Intellectually. I knew what was coming, but I didn't know the order and I didn't know the execution. You don't know what that feels like.

I didn't know what it feels like. And I was shocked. As Mike said, I was like very surprised. Yeah. Pretty much all of this. It, it takes a lot to surprise me.

And it feels like the, the floor just gives out. It just feels like, yeah,. It feels like the floor just gives out. It just feels like a floor collapses, essentially. Absolutely. You feel really untethered. Yes. It rattles you. And that's where we got stuck the first time, which I was okay with because I needed a second. I needed a breather sure yeah that uh and then you're just

that was that was very unsettling just being in this dark room and having done that big surprise but boy then to get to do it a second time and experience the full effect where you drop and then just immediately you're going again it's nuts also okay so there's two of those uh-huh there's two rooms next to each other okay sure, sure. So I think if one drop is not working, they can still run the ride with the second room. Wow. Wow. Yeah, so I think we saw,

I think you could see out the, like you saw the other room shooting cars out when we were stuck. Oh, one went ahead of us. So I don't know what, they didn't fill us in on what went wrong in our version or when we went to the first time, but obviously the other one was either working or whatever uh so so cool yeah very cool um you power back up a huge flame shoots out of the wall

agrid's narrating you through all this stuff feet gives you a spell i think that's why the drop happens that's how you get out of there yeah you get really yes. I think that's why the drop happens. That's how you get out of there. Yeah, you get released. Yes, yes, yes. I think that's a second scrut. Is that supposed to be a second scrut that's fiery and that post-drop? Oh, is that what happens? I didn't know what that flame was about.

I think so. I think he's like, oh, there's the other one. Okay. I believe that's what happens. It's kind of hard to tell in the ride-through videos. Okay, okay. Because it's so noisy. That's cool.

And then you do the fastest launch. Then there's a zero to 50. They save, yeah, a way that most roller coasters could not do. You launch then there's a zero to 50 they save on yeah a way that most roller coasters could not do you know and like yeah think about in credit coaster it's sort of like peters out a little i like those little drops and then the swirls i think they do a good job of ending it in a fairly exciting way but like this might be there's a rare coaster where you know one of the coolest things happens at the end yeah i mean very few yeah very few if ever do you get a on the coasters do you get things happens at the end yeah i mean very few yeah very few if ever

do you get a on the coasters do you get that launch at the end like most i think most coasters feel like they do the trick where now they've dropped you to the like the lowest part of the coaster and spin you to try to get the last bit of the like propulsion out energy yeah and to make yeah you feel like you're a little disoriented. Honestly, that last loop on the Incredicoaster, that's, other than maybe the loop, when you're going around, my head kind of goes, like, it's almost, I feel like they're trying to do a different trick on you, as opposed to just, like, launching you fast and straight, which is what this does,

and it's a much more pleasurable. Trying to distract you from the sand lot in the center of that funnel. That is also an issue. That's really, that's truly put to shame by the thousand trees of this ride right on the other side of the coaster there are like there is dune grass and it's like honestly if you just plant more dune grass in the center yeah that's all it would like i don't know it's just a little trick yeah something and i can't believe in all of

the renovations they didn't put some incredibles or like big jack jack that's what we said i mean i'm sure i am sure somebody proposed that but this is a giant jack jack trying to grab at the coast like it just makes too much sense and i'm sure they put it some or an underminer bursting out of the ground that's not really the story but i like that that Underminer. That's great. That's fine, too. Comparing the Incredicoaster to this, where like, yeah, that centaur is far away. So yeah, OK, I'm not 100% sure if it's a statue or an animatronic. It doesn't seem to be moving a lot.

But like one of those with a solid lighting cue, that's great. All of them at the Incredicoaster are just stationary statues. That's kind of a bummer. Well, it's again, I want to just defend the image. Of course they wanted to make something like moving, but the budget. I know you're not running them down. I'm just saying we know

the budget. We know what you're doing, Chapek. Well, Pixar Pier clearly initially must have come from Lasseter. So it's another, we can conveniently blame it on him. Blame Lasseter. He insisted on statues and not animatronics. I wanted to blame Chapek.

And then I wanted to say that the Mike Leisner Shadow Council, the three of us will be put in charge of the parks. Change your ways, Bob. Change your ways. Bob Chapek will report to us. Do it because it's delightful, not because of the bottom line. Delightful, delightful, delightful. Bob Chapek has to go to our version of

Mexico to go to talk to us. That's how it'll work from now on. But in this one, we win. Yes, but in this one we uh win yes but in this one we win yes yes that's the important distinction he doesn't get all of the spirits of past presidents of the parks in his head he yeah yeah and our lightning uh wins we shoot him with lightning we shoot we shoot bob jay but we but it's like lightning of it's electricity of ideas and creativity yeah and then he becomes like

spirits spirits is this the future of parks that will or may I still change my ways in instance if in honesty if we were in charge of the parks would we bankrupt the Walt Disney Company within six months I think the answer is yes I think we would have green light so much

stuff so much cool stuff like the parks would be so good for a few months before they had to close because we spent so much money. That is what is cool about Eisner, I think. It's going to be the Disney decade, and then in two years, he blew through all of it. Now, that second half was rough, but boy, we were flying high. When I manipulate them into spending a billion dollars to bring back both Touchstone and Club Penguin. I'm going to argue with you on that one. I don't care about that. I was not a Club Penguin kid, but I am fascinated by it because it does seem like some kids spend a lot.

Do you know this was like the online game yeah free social media thing i would advocate they like sell fox back to the murdoch's sell uh abc sell so many different things they have that are boring that are boring just as fun the parks yeah i'd be like get the billions get billions of dollars but sell star wars back to george lucas they can still i want to still be in the park sell it it back to George and then let's just use all the money to make Westcott. And then the rise of the true source of power. The

return of Go.com. Go.com never left. Yeah, that's true. It's still in the back boat. It's still powering the Disney servers. I think what we really want is to be in charge of the Oriental Land Company in Financially Tokyo. So we could say, hmm, I think what we really want is to be in charge of the Oriental Land Company in financials Tokyo. So we could say, hmm, I think

triple spending. And everyone will say, yes, very good. And then it'll happen. I think we probably are needed the least there, but it would be fun to double charge. Yeah. Well, they just bought in Florida, they just bought that chunk of property that has like

a body of water on it. Do you see this? Disney bought that chunk of property that has like a body of water on do you see this like disney bought a chunk of land that does have water on it and there were some people fantasy casting online going like build disney sea building in america yeah which that's weird because like they did like they made up with the body of water and disney sea it's not like it'd be like oh it'll be very cheap to make DisneySea now. Here's one of my ideas that I would pitch or make Bob Chipik do. Disney Swamp. Sure.

Orlando Disney Swamp. Tokyo DisneySea, Orlando Disney Swamp. I think that's... I think that's pretty good. It is pretty good. Does Swamp Thing live there? Yes, he does. No, no, it's uh the swamp thing live there yes he does they own no no it's dc no yeah they'll buy swamp thing in some sort of a trade man thing yeah they own an identical character there's a marvel comics character man thing he's from the swamp i think too

you could do a ride where you like recreate how we meet kermit in the muppet movie you like see him singing right rainbow connection yeah and like go through kermit swamp home entire emmet otter world yeah now we're disney swamp shared universe with pizza rizzo and the regal eagle barbecue the suit to cover eagle eagle barbecue we should probably do an Orlando Disney Swamp shirt. That looks like the Disney scene. If they start seeing them in the parks, then... I would wear the Disney Swamp shirt. Sure. Maybe we need to do an episode where we flesh it all out.

That's a good idea, too. That's coming in 2020. Yeah, great. Yeah, we'll design all of it. So, hey, you get through the fastest launch, and then you land, and you see a beautiful unicorn and as Hagrid says oh and look she's a mum

she's a mum ain't she you know the little baby unicorn that's wonderful very cute yeah in the pre-show video he's talking about all the creatures you'll see at the very end he like this very very funny odd delivery where

he goes and if we're lucky or if we're lucky to lure one in a unicorn i was just like i don't know what it is about the delivery but he just like leans forward a little like he's telling you a secret and i don't know why i found that so delightful or just so interesting but i was like that's kind of cute like he's telling you a little secret he's telling a hundred of his closest friends his secret that's like a different version of my thing with the optimus prime where it's like he's addressing you and you feel like special there's a restaurant uh called howlin rays in los angeles that we've been to uh and one of my favorite things is that if the owner is there oftentimes he'll do a thing where he goes like

i gave you extra pickles and then he puts like his finger to his mouth like he's don't tell anyone and you feel like you're like a free side yeah here's some free fries and he goes and then you're like wow he likes me this is cool i know i like We have a secret now. And it's what Hagrid is doing with every guest. It's like, we know. We're in on it now. It makes you. And look and dig deep into the sidecar. There's a couple of pickles for you.

There's a couple of pickles for you. Shh, shh, shh. Keep it quiet. Don't tell the motorcycle driver. That's the way to make the sidecar a better experience is there's secret pickles. Oh, my God. Secret pickle compartment.

That would be a true innovation. I've heard actually, though, on Rides of the Resistance, there are secret pickles in the vehicles. Oh, wow. I mean, food service in a ride is a whole other arena. Yeah. It hasn't been tapped. So that would, yeah, I mean, is that the secret at the end?

Do you get to eat a meal amidst the Ad-Ets? Oh, yeah, maybe. Maybe you, yeah. I think that, I don't know the end, but yes, you have a full three-course meal served to you in the ride vehicle. And they're eating big burgers themselves oh wow so yeah so all the all the bad guys are all eating and you're eating too and then the resistance comes and they it's it's sort of like a thanksgiving where they bring their food at the

end that's the end of the ride it's sort of a rebels and first order thanksgiving how did we not i mean it's a spoiler to say this isn't the end of the the skywalker story but it it does not end with a thanksgiving style reconciliation between both sides that would have been a nice ending that would be the evil people turn good and they break bread they break uh self-rising bread oh yeah self why haven't they have the self-rising bread in their land that's like when everyone likes the self-rising bread in force awakens well because it's yeah possible to do not with the wizards and imagineering anyway we should probably talk about harry potter some more yeah um i mean that's the ride that's things that happen and they're uh yeah it's that's the ride. That's the thing that's happened.

And they're, yeah, it's amazing. What can I say? It's just like, it's full of surprises and you really got to do it. I think it's the epitome of a, our friend Andrew Grissom was saying like, I've watched the ride through and I don't really like get it. It does. I've watched the Rise of the Resistance ride through and that seems very exciting. This one, I don't get.

I'm like, because you got to go. You got to feel those forces and zip through that forest yourself i've heard from other people that they were like i watched it and it looks a little bit underwhelming but it's like it's just it's not it's not i could i could see i think my sister watched it too and she was like well it seems like there's not a lot of stuff in between but it's like the the zipping through with these launches on this specific vehicle is so fun and thrilling. Sure, it would be nice if it was loaded with robots, but it's like you're so excited to be on that little straightaway. Yeah, it still has to be a roller coaster.

The story coaster, like, this is also, like, the only, like, there's only a handful of them. I mean, this is sort of- Ringgits was kind of the precursor to this, and Guardians will be the next big one. I think that's coming. That's really the test, is if that tops this. I don't know. I don't really know what's in it, so it's hard to say. If you are going to go on this, I'll say this. Do check the operating hours. so this is a big thing universal kind of

hedging their bets with this i looked up in the app uh a few days ago like on the first or second uh and in the app the page for hagrid's does still like have a disclaimer may open later and close early which is sort of what they were doing when we were down there in october it seemed like they were expanding hour by hour but at the time we were there they were only running at five hours in an operating day yes and i i think they were and part of that was it wasn't operating at full peak capacity they were like you can run multiple trains running at once at different parts of the ride but they were still trying to get up to that level uh and the blog orlando rising got data from touring plans our friends at touring plans so on average the month of november was the most

successful month of the ride they had it broken down by percentage of operating day that Hagrid's was open. November, the average was about 72%. So if Islands of Adventure is open 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., 72% of that day, Hagrid's was up and running. But the first month, like the first few weeks of like end of January, it was only open 46% of the operating day. Yikes. And if they're not running it at full capacity, that's why you would see multi-hour lines.

Opening day, the lines were estimated 8 to 10 hour waits. Jeez. And I tried- At some point, you wouldn't be able to, if you got in at a 10 hour line at noon, you're not going to get there. You just don't get on. Yeah. And it's an interesting, it's a conundrum.

Because, well, if you try, this is one way to open a ride. And what you get is news stories about people waiting 8- to 10-hour rides. And guests go, that must be a really good ride. But then Disney, when we were at galaxy's edge opening day pretty smooth and then you get a lot of guests posting on twitter and instagram and facebook having a good time and people go oh that must be a pretty good thing so i don't i don't know that one is better than the other well you mean as far as a mark like a line is always a good marketing tool yeah that's what like that's what that uh place holland

raised so i was just talking about always has a line like hour long hour two hour long line so yeah as far as your like marketing is concerned like when you go 10 hour line i gotta do it i gotta go and do this thing so you think it outweighs that there's people who are certainly upset they didn't get on this thing i'm not saying that i'm just saying that it's an interesting what it's interesting that universal has opted to continue the sort of old tradition of that whereas it does look like with what disney's doing in florida at least for rise of the resistance it's like it's all uh first in the first thing in the morning joining a boarding queue like when they um opened the land and they were uh in so you got to get there immediately that's how it's working so so they've done it a couple different ways they've switched it up

they've done in orlando they've i think they started out just doing it where as soon as you got into the park you would be added into a queue and now i think they're doing it where it's completely sort of random it's like you get a reservation, come back at this time. So, yeah, so basically, like, there's no incentive now in Orlando to get there very early. Okay. You get there right, you have to be there right when it opens. But it's like, it used to be, there was like at least, like they would form some sort of a line starting, you know,

what, at 2 a.m. or something, and then you would sort of just join in the virtual queue, and then it would tell you to come back when it was open um but it's interesting that they're yeah universal is not doing that because they could they have and in early promotion for this ride they said it would use the virtual queue system that they have set up for multiple rides they still have not put that into place yeah so it's interesting because i i don't wonder i wonder if any of the Galaxy's Edge, like, quote-unquote, disappointment in the summer for Disney was that they organized everything too well.

If it was like they had just made it like a crazy, you know, Mad Max-style line, like, insanity, if people would be like, oh, my God, you wait for eight hours and then you get in the light. This has got to be the greatest thing. And it would have made it more exciting to people. I don't know. I'm not exactly sure.

Or is it equally, yeah, are people upset by a giant light? Has there ever, 10 hour light, is that one of the biggest in the history? I don't know, but they say that. Indiana Jones, how about some Indiana Jones star tours? I mean, they talk about. Indiana Jones, I think I may have waited in a three hour. I waited four hours for Gringotts. I think opening summer three and a half,

four hours. We waited really long for guardians. We, we, we got in a line that said 90 minutes and I think we waited like three and a half hours. I think so. Yeah.

Do you remember how soon after Indy opened or was it? I was there pretty soon after. Yeah. Yeah. It gave me plenty of time to cry because once i saw a video of what it was gonna do i was like i don't want to do it now and my dad was like we're not gonna go backwards and like get the fuck out of here did you like it though still yeah yeah okay yeah yeah i just saw like that the video in the line where it's like shaking mildly i was like no

i was like screaming my screams echoing like on the across the temple you mean uh you mean 90s night vision isn't like uh particularly appeal like that doesn't draw a child in the shaky like half lit that's what scared me yeah yeah uh i. It looked like I was worried I was going to be in a cops-esque experience. You're going to be arrested. It's a scary dash cam. I'm just thinking about it now. Hagrid and Sala are very similar in their folksy, friendly, kind of like sidekick style.

And they talk to you while they're on the ride. And they kind of guide you through the journey. Yeah, true. Yeah. It's like sputtery vehicles. And they talk to you while you're on it. And it's a little wonkier than maybe they expect even, but you get through.

They kind of have, yeah, they kind of have an apologetic, like at one point in the ride, Hagrid does say, it's hard to hear, he says, I never was very good at magic, which you never want to hear in a magic class you never want to hear uh really hear that there's also of course a a great overlap and crossover that this is a ride at universal studios where you are in line and they tell you and you're in a forest and they tell you you're going to get on some magic flying bikes and and have an incredible and see incredible creatures it really is a cousin to the et adventure that's good i never thought about it it's a souped up et adventure it really

is they could soup up et they could if you know harry potter goes out of style if jk rowling keeps tweeting uh weird uh yeah she has not tweeted since her transphobic shit don't tweet please J.K. Rowling keeps tweeting weird tweets away. That's right. Yeah. She has not tweeted since her transphobic shit. Don't tweet. Please. A few weeks ago. Let us think that you're okay. You know what I found out about her recently?

Because I haven't read those books. I do remember this character from the movies. He's not in that much. There is one Irish character explicitly labeled, and his name is Seamus Finnegan and he likes blow he likes explosions and the books are set in the time frame where the troubles in northern Ireland would still be going on and it's like oh come on man really oh that's interesting I did not know anything about Seamus Finnegan they may as as well called him patio malley and it's like you irish you like blowing stuff up like that is wonderful thank my heritage uh great well well i'm saying yeah i'm saying if harry potter like just goes away you can maybe just retheme this to et oh

just move move all the robots are this being just like a mega mile long version of the et adventure that's pretty good oh and that show building is like that's the the dying planet and yeah i mean when they make when when all the principal when everyone in et dies who made it uh et2 or the remake of et will happen anyway we got et2 this oh yeah you're right we didn't even talk much about that people were tweeting that at me and us uh there was a long commercial i woke up and there was so much stuff i was like did they do something with botanicus are you kidding me and then i checked and like oh it's just regular et boo it was comcast right comcast yeah yeah i kept seeing the abbreviated one back east because my both my parents have comcast and et comes back

home and then you watch and then the guy like scrolls through an app and to old that was to show et old episodes of the blacklist and i don't understand why like spielberg is like no sequels to et but if but yes a 10 minute cynical commercial for the fucking cable he's like yeah well he's also seemingly okay with the jurassic world franchise well he never cared about that as much though he was there was always there were always lost world and i mean yeah he made a world yeah he made a weird one and then three so i think he was never that precious about it um but that's i'm just wondering what the deal is with that where it's like oh yeah we'll make a 10 minute commercial but i don't want to make a bad movie. I mean, he doesn't have to direct it, but I'm saying I'd rather have a bad movie than that commercial.

Sure. But with the green plant and botanicals. Yeah, that's the only way to do it. That's the only way to do it. Yeah, yeah. What I like about this ride, too, I was reading, like, they're saying that this ride will only get, like, cooler and more immersive because, you know, the trees will grow grow out which i think is pretty cool like in 10 years like the the forest will be like you know very whatever what is the word full grown yeah i mean california adventure grown you look at the trees and the you know by grizzly river all of those have grown quite a bit in 20 years yeah yeah and if you know there's not a lot of

universal studios that you would call uh beautiful that's there's not a lot of Universal Studios that you would call beautiful. That's not the word. A lot of it is exciting and thrilling and fun. Yeah. You wouldn't call it like, wow, that is like, but all of the Harry Potter stuff has been so photographable.

Yeah. And so looking, so. I think the greener, I mean, this and Pandora and the Resistance Forest in Galaxy's Edge, like the greenery,

greenery and water features, like I do have an extra like oomph for me just because I think naturally humans like green space and like water yeah and like some of the best parts of theme parks from the very beginning from the Jungle Cruise and for sure Disneyland in 1955 what's the most successful stuff I think the Jungle Cruise and the Rivers of America and yes there's always a place for that. It's a proud tradition. Yeah. Sorry.

Oh, no, no, go ahead. I was just going to say, I mean, just looking through, I know we did not go walk through the queue, but the queue has much like Flight of Passage and Indiana Jones, and it's got a lot of different parts to it, which are really cool and immersive. I don't know. We don't need to talk so much about it because I didn't walk through it, but I just want

to highlight that as well. Sure. Yeah. A little bit of, like, and there's, like, these cool, like, cozy little rock parts of it, and it's very awesome. There's a little room right before you get on, and you look up the ceiling. It looks like the motorcycle's on top of the building. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's very cool video projection yeah i think uh you know they they truly disney has they had to do galaxy's edge and they had to do pandora because if if we're in a little arms race here i think the addition of this thing now you add the the the the two campuses with the train in between hogwarts forbidden journey the train both of those train stations which now i've seen in person they're they're so cool so immersive that train attraction is great uh uh gringotts is amazing diagonal is amazing i i mean the the full harry potter campus i think you have to say is i'll say is better than galaxy's edge and that's a little unfair because it's further along in it yeah yeah and it is this

multi-park thing but like like i i feel like this ride i don't think they had to do this ride i think i think like the harry potter campus was uh both of those lands were incredible already. And you put this on top and it's like, I don't know. I don't think, I think they're winning the war right now. Yeah. They definitely had to retire Dragon Challenge because that, I rode that in 2017, a month before they took it down. And it was feeling pretty rough. Hurting people.

Yes. Yeah. And that was the one that was injuring people. Near decapitations. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we'll see. Rise of the Resistance, I think, is going to go a long way in satisfying things that people don't necessarily feel about Galaxy's Edge.

But don't you feel like Rise of the Resistance, you add that, okay, now Galaxy's Edge equals original Harry Potter Hogwarts side. For sure. equals original harry potter hogwarts side for sure like i don't i think the fact that there's this entire double section uh uh which i yeah yeah i think galaxy maybe does it need that maybe maybe the hotel will make it like oh now it's like an undeniably yeah so much there i mean it's this a whole nother podcast but it's it's a it is a difference between using an exact thing from the properties also, which I think goes a long way to for Harry Potter to be so successful. But like I'm saying, like, it's actually Hogwarts and you've seen it from the movies, you've seen it from the books, and now you're there as opposed to Galaxy's Edge where there's elements where it's like the millennium falcon is there and you know that and that's i think i i would say arguably the probably what everyone likes the best in the land is just seeing the millennium falcon yeah the thing you know the thing you know in it now i i i think you do have to give them credit because like

where would they put it like where is the pal where's the falcon been parked that's grander than those spires yeah that that cove that they built like like while you're right that it's the falcon been parked that's grander than those spires yeah that cove that they built like like while you're right that it's the value it's the thing that we know and that's what we love to take pictures of it like it's not the same like tattooing is like uh sad you know yeah it's like desolate and you don't want to be there right so i yeah i i mean we've had this discussion before i do think that it's a mix of like it's not we haven't seen this before it's not beautiful like like there's something obviously with with uh hogsmeade and diagonally is a little more like perverse and i mean that in a good way but like hogsmeade is so charming it's a a little town, and just the visuals of it are so appealing.

Versus just Galaxy's Edge. When you're in the First Order area with the ship, with the Kylo Ren ship, from the Colin Trevorrow script ship, which I'm talking about, is that that ship that Kylo Ren comes off of was from the Colin Trevorrow version of Episode IX that didn't get made. Because early on in the process, they said, well, do you have a ship that... And he goes, oh, I have this this kylo ren ship does it look much different than the ship he is in in force wakens no looks like a tie fighter shuttle cross like what they've

been combining the same five designs for years right but if you like if you go like over in that area you go oh okay all right there's some like you know fascist banners and there's a big ship and the ship is cool but like yeah you don't get you don't get a feeling like you get going into hogsmeade which i do think you would get either way you would get that feeling whether you knew harry potter or not you'd go this is like a quaint little town with a cool castle and in the distance sure sure so i i'll give it up to especially let's let's take it to night. Let's add fireworks into the mix. When fireworks are going off around the spires and the fountains there, I think it's unfair to say it's not beautiful.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there is a desolate nature to a couple parts of Galaxy's Edge, but I don't want to say there isn't anything. No, I'm not trying to put down Galaxy's Edge as a failure or anything. We'll talk more about this on the Rise episode. Sure. no I'm not trying to I'm not trying to put down Galaxy's Edge as a failure or anything uh we'll talk let's we'll talk more about this on the Rise episode sure to see how we try to do as soon as we can now Rise of Resistance has to throw this argument because it's open in Florida and we haven't got to do it maybe that's the best right in Orlando now uh yeah right but do we think it's

this is it is it is it currently Hogwarts taking Rise out of the equation it's definitely the most technologically advanced I mean and I think it's a good preview for the direction universal is going in because like secret life of pets uh say what you will about that second movie not doing very well that ride has pets animatronics on it like they're they're talking about that they're building a city street facade they're going there they heard. It seems like they have heard some of the criticism of like too many screens. Yeah. Yeah. Need some robots.

And I've seen it's like, yep, here's people posing with the robots. Here's universal people. Yeah, that's good. That's yeah. Yeah, you're right. That's a start. Physical stuff because you can take pictures of it. Yeah.

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I still really like Spider-Man. I was thinking it could it's maybe it's maybe it's spider-man still spider-man's still up there that also technologically innovative like broke new grant so like yeah so this is my this is my top five i'd really have to sit down and think about what the order is sure um but it's it's really great and really both like you got a lot of cool stuff to look at. You get a cool vibe from it. And the ride system is super, super fun.

Is there anything in Walt Disney World better than Hagrid's Motorbike? I don't know. I really like Everest as far as thrilling. I really like Everest. This does. I think I'd rank this higher because there's more animatronics. It might be higher. But I do like Everest. This does... I think I'd rank this higher because of more animatronics. It might be higher. But I do like...

Yeah. That's such a tough question because Everest itself is so impressive. Tower of Terror was the thing, I think. Kind of fell in that all over again. It could be that. Last time. I'll say this too.

Hagrid's when I checked Friday afternoon down to 90 minutes. So they're getting there. That's good. That's not as bad. They ran in the corner. But truly, if you want real insurance about getting on, start a podcast, do it for a couple of years,

see how that audience grows, and then maybe someone will help you. And then Hagrid will reach his hand out and cast a spell. Boys. A line-cutting spell. And I've got a secret for you as well. Pickles. McGruff's name is Scruff.

What? The nephew is named after Maine McGruff. You were right all along. He's Scruff Jr. That's his name. His nephew is Scruff Jr. Well, does that do it? Did we survive the first podcast?

I think so. That's the ride of 2020. 2020, maybe. Big stuff coming up. And thanks for listening. If you want to follow all of it, then go to our Twitter, to our Facebook, or to our Instagram. And as I said, go to YouTube, the expanded Hello Supercut. More hellos than ever before.

And for those three bonus episodes every month sign up for podcast the ride the second gate at patreon.com slash podcast the ride i think by now we've put up a pretty fun episode about the disney world millennium celebration all the bullshit they were doing around 99 2000 that's a fun episode we're going to talk imagineering story uh and of and of course soon enough a bunch of stuff about Marlon Brando, I guess. What was the other thing we said long ago? It was a real idea. What are you, on this episode or before?

Yeah. Well, we're talking about McGruff 2, obviously. Oh, McGruff 2. That's it. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yeah. McGruff 2. Probably on Patreon, unless it's just too big.

Yeah. We'll see. Big to be contained. I don't know. We got to lure people. Yeah, that's true. I forgot about the other developments in that. There's been two or three different developments in that.

Multiple McGruff. Multiple McGruff. What a way to start 2020. Iteration. So we'll see. And none of what we're getting has been attained illegally. None of it is bootlegs. Right.

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