Podcast: The Ride - Halloween Horror Nights & Knott’s Scary Farm with Marissa Strickland and Justin Michael

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

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Forever Dog Boo! The following Hauntcast contains Scare actors dressed as a Costco-loving father and son Grotesque green Italian goo Vampires who are pirates who also kiss And broken slimers All this plus Marissa Strickland and Justin Michael return to help recap Not Scary Farm,

Universal Halloween Horror Nights, and various other SoCal haunts on today's HauntCast, The Fright. Welcome to Hauntcast The Fright, a Scream Park podcast where you'll get jump scared when you hear stories about the host's high school dating. My name is Spike Dracula's son. That's a change. I just changed my name, although next week you'll hear the old bad name. Joining me as always is? Jackal Skeratin. Jackal Skeratin.

There he is. So, yes, obviously you know we've been recording a little bit out of order some of these HauntCast episodes. We're recorded back in August because we're talking about Beetlejuice. We're talking about different movies that are coming out. This is recorded pretty recently. This is a Scott-free episode. That's the branding we've been going with, which means that Scott is not here

and that Jason and I can be little rascals and get away with all of our little X-Men talk. And we can talk about apps and we can talk about points to our heart's delight. Apps being appetizers or phone applications. That's right. If Jason and I want to talk about the Bloomin' Onion for 10 minutes, we can because we can get away with it scot-free. You know, chaos. The country devolved into chaos once an appetizer sampler was no longer agreed upon to be wings,

mozzarella sticks, and potato skates. Wait, wait. Hold on here. Yeah. Is this some... Did you just develop this philosophy? I just, in this moment, it came to me because a lot of places now, they're like pick three or pick four.

Oh, so you're saying that once American citizens were trusted to decide their different appetizers in sort of a combo platter, that's when all the things went to shit. That's when Chaos reigns. Now, the traditional sampler platter does have a lot of meat on it. So I can understand adding more

options for vegetarians. Okay, hold on though. What do you think what is a traditional platter for an appetizer? As a husky child, this was always my order at a chain restaurant was to get the appetizer platter as my meal. Right.

Because it was buffalo wings, potato skins, and mozzarella sticks. Oh, okay. So that's what you believe is like the God's intended appetizer tray. Yes. But I admit there's a lot of meat. There's two different kinds of meat on there. You got the bacon bits on the potato skins. Well, that's a little bit.

You got wings on the chicken. You got the bacon bits on the potato skins. Oh, well, that's a little bit. You got wings on the chicken. You got chicken on the wings. Okay, so you're saying, but you don't like the options? This is madness. I like the classic, you know, we need to get back to the good old days of three set appetizers. But what about like onion rings? That's more of a side, don't you think? I don't think.

I mean, it could be a side, but all the things you just said were like possible sides. Well, no, they're appetizers coming together like the Avengers. But mozzarella sticks couldn't be a side? Mozzarella sticks can't be a side. Are you crazy? But you mean you can't eat mozzarella sticks in addition to a different meal? That's not right. You're going to get a burger, but you say instead of fries, I want mozzarella sticks?

Well, that seems like a lot. That seems heavy. That seems heavy. Yeah. But really, the difference is just you eat it before and not with. Correct. Yeah. So you would eat 10 mozzarella sticks before eating a giant hamburger and a bunch of fries,

and that makes it okay? Well, no. I would eat the before as my meal. Right. I'm just saying if we classify it as an appetizer, you could do what I'm describing. Yeah, correct. Okay. Well, look.

My head is spinning already here. Chili is apparently getting slammed because people obsessed with the TikTok, the cheese pull on their weird mozzarella planks. Hold on a second. Wait a minute. People on TikTok are getting obsessed with Chili's or the videos about Chili's? They see the mozzarella planks. Okay, what is a mozzarella plank? Okay, so Chili's has very specific mozzarella sticks.

Scott is yelling somewhere. You can feel this. Keep going, keep going. I very specific mozzarella sticks. Scott is yelling somewhere. And they have for years. Keep going, keep going. I'm not mad though. I like it. They're little rectangles as opposed to the little round boys. So they're like Chili's proprietary like an IP of Chili's. They're proprietary to me. I've never seen them

elsewhere. Okay, so they're just different shaped mozzarella sticks. Yeah, I really would like to bring our wooden planks because i know you know what i don't want to bring them in yet they're telling i don't want to bring them in yet i want you to keep talking about this are they like lincoln logs are they planks like little wooden planks they're like they're like little rectangle boys okay and people on tiktok are seeing videos of people biting into the- People doing the cheese pull. Because online videos of food, people love the cheese pull.

Is that true? This is true. Is this recent? It's in the last, I don't know how long. Like a ninja turtle eating a piece of pizza and the cheese goes gooey and pulls it. Yeah, they want that cheese pull. I don't want it. That's a mess.

Right. I want a little bit of cheese pull. But people are going wild and are they going to Chili's to recreate this? And Chili's apparently can't keep them in stock. There was a Wall Street Journal video about Chili's is changing fortunes because fast food is too expensive. Right. I've seen this.

I know this. Chili's keeps getting cheaper. I know this and this is something I want to talk about. Chili's is almost the same price as McDonald's now. And there's a TGI Friday steps away from one of the places we'll be talking about today. Right. Okay. But you have not gone and tried to get a cheese plank and tried to recreate it.

No, I have not. But can you do that? Can we go together? I get, well, the closest- Can we go after this recording? I know for a fact the closest Chili's from here is Encino. That is correct. I know that too. That's a fact I know. It's not that far. I mean, it's the closest Chili's from here is Encino. That is correct. I know that, too.

That's a fact I know. It's not that far. I mean, it's not. It's far. Oh, the 101. Oh, don't get me started on that traffic. All right, well, we're going to go to Chili's, and we're going to get you on TikTok and have you go viral.

Hi. We're turning me into, like, a Rizzler, Big Justice type? We should be so lucky to get you to become the Rizzler or Big Justice. That's what we want. First of all, those are both children. I don't know why you didn't pick an adult influencer. They're stars. They're TikTok stars. I agree with you that they're stars. What adult influencers are there? There's plenty.

There's that old man who's like a milkshake influencer. Oh, I do like the old man. Of course. And he goes, hey. He puts a little blue raspberry Fanta and then he puts ice cream and he goes, this is your blue Fanta milkshake. That's like a soda jerk. He's kind of like a soda jerk.

Yeah, but he's an older man, so there's obviously older influencers. Yes. Okay, bring the guests. You bring the guests in. Well, we have two guests today are returning on Correspondence. Yes, returning from last year. I'm going to just off the dome try to

come up with scary names for you. Because normally we just say Justin Michael and Marissa Strickland. But now I think we're going to say Murder Stabland and Jabbing Murder. Jabbing Murder. Jabbing Murder. Justin Michael Jabbing murder.

Jabbing murder. Justin Michael, jabbing murder. I appreciate not going like the rhyme or like wordplay route. It was like that was a top off the dome choice. Well, let me I'll tell you about this. I was trying to think once last

night. I was falling asleep and whatever I thought of at the time they they were off in dreamland. You got so tired. Wait, so that was a... He pre-planned it, but then he acted like it was off the dome. No, no. I'm saying it was off the dome because whenever I came up with that Betty Bye, I like... Can you give us some of your Betty Bye options?

No, Mike. Again, they're off in the nether realm oh they're gone they're gone you remember one that sleep paralysis demon eight fingers i bet you remember i think jabbing was a thing so you did it just off the dome i don't remember the rest of it and i think this is convenient for getting i think i i'm really getting the business today. The good business. I thought this would be a you episode because it's all the haunts. You're the haunt explorer.

You came in hot with that appetizer thing and it derailed the whole show. That is Scott's maze. Like you guys talking about these things. Getting out of Jason and I's weeds. Each room is like you talking about a different off topic sort of thing. That's absolutely what this podcast is. It's his nightmare. Scott Garner's nightmare. It's his nightmare. Scott Garner's tonightmare.

It's his tonightmare. Like, that's really what Podcast the Ride is about, is one guy going, why do these guys care about apps and coupons so much? That's really, it's not about theme parks. It's kind of the modern equivalent of the Three Stooges. Can you explain? Go ahead, go ahead, yes.

Well, yeah, because the one was always going all right you idiots we have to we have to mo but uh yeah okay scott scott is mo we we gotta put this gutter on the side of the house now and i don't want any trouble you know i guess so so i'm like i'm larry probably or are you larry i don't know them well enough i'm more of a marx brothers guy we're gonna talk about countdown to extinction today okay that's all we're gonna talk about or are you Larry? I don't know them well enough. I'm more of a Marx Brothers guy. We're going to talk about Countdown to Extinction today. Okay, and that's all we're going to talk about. What Marx Brothers, so Scott is Groucho then?

You've got to be Harpo then, right? Oh, yeah, but I like Groucho so much. Yeah, but in the way we're setting up this, I think it would be Groucho. Yeah. Or Scott would be Groucho. If he's like orchestrating. Right, he's the organizer. Yeah. So are you Zeppo?

Isn't Zeppo the fourth? Wasn't there a middle one? Yeah, Mike is never really here. Mike is never seen. That's like saying I was Curly Joe or something. Or Shemp. That doesn't even make sense. There's three of them.

Anyway, while we're here today, we're trying to talk about Southern California haunts. That's really what we're here to do. Very excited. That's the business at hand. And I think we have a couple different things among us that we did. And then we did something together. So we can talk about that. We will say, or I guess we have said it already, like this was going to be the year that Scott

was going to do the haunts. And of course, something happened, baby, that got him out of having to do all the haunts. Now, it seems pretty convenient. It seems almost like he kind of planned this in hindsight. Well, she probably knew her due date roundabout, right? You would think so. Now, I'm trying to remember, he kind of said he was going to do Fright Fest a full year ago. But it still feels like so convenient. Because because like it could have been any day.

Obviously, a baby comes. It's unpredictable. But like with just a few more days, he would have done two different haunts. So he really has to thank his new son for getting him out of these scared like these scare zones essentially and as we say in a future episode uh he will thank the sun by taking him to all these haunts next year but only that son i also like as we say in a future episode well that's what's been going on a lot lately don't worry about that yeah no he can't take the five-year-old but he'll be able to take a one-year-old. I horrifically saw a small baby in a haunt this year and hated it. We did, and it was not part of the haunt.

We've seen a lot of that. Yeah, there's a big discussion of strollers, and Gio was counting strollers. Last year, Gio and I, and so yeah, Gio and I, I should say also, Gio was not able to make the Fright Fest opening, so Gio and I did not go to Fright Fest. We're saving that next year for Scott. Okay. Maybe all four of us go. Maybe Shemp, Moe, Larry, and Curly go.

And Zeppo. Next year. And Zeppo. Anthony, Gio would be like Zeppo in that scenario. Or Shemp. But yeah, so we ended up just doing a bunch of different stuff this year. And hopefully, fingers crossed, next year we'll see if Scott has what it takes. Because my prediction was going to be that he taps out after two mazes.

That was what I thought was going to happen. Now you're on record. We were going to talk about it. Now I'm on record. We'll see if it happens next year. Wow. Maybe I'll see a change in him over the next year, though, where I feel like, oh, now he can handle it.

I'm not sure. Having two children, you can handle more than two mazes? That's right. One maze per child. Right. It strengthens you one whole maze and then you can do it. I'm not sure. Having two children, you can handle more than two mazes? Yeah, one maze per child. It strengthens you one whole maze and then you can do it. Anyway, we'll see next year. It'll be very exciting unless there's another

I don't know. I mean, they have 12 months. And that's the requisite amount of time to really get things going. 12 months, right. It's more than enough time, some would say. Some would say that. Also, though, did you know babies are supposed

to really cook in there for 12 months? That would be the ideal amount of time. Yeah, but our bodies can't hold them that long. It's weird, isn't it? I learned this when I had a child. We're made wrong. Yeah. Yeah.

The baby would be more like fully cooked. That's the word, cooked, after 12 months. But they just, the body shoots it out. You're supposed to come out with like crispy skin. Right. And put on an appetizer plate. Exactly. Your wings are more, yeah, juicy.

Your wings have chickens. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, so that's different. But anyway, yeah, we'll see next year. But I think we did some fun stuff. I know I did some fun stuff and some fun stuff alone this year that is worth discussing on today's episode. I love it. So I guess I don't know how we should even start. I mean, let's start here. We did Horror Nights again together.

The three of us did Horror Nights again, which is what we did last year. And we should start talking about just that and the differences in the new stuff. Now, I will say I have been watching a lot of live streams from these events. Okay. Because there's a lot of people live streaming from both Florida and California. Yes. And very interesting restrictions. Like, you can just take a live camera through the houses in California anytime you please.

Florida, it was only opening night. It was only the media, like, RIP tour. Well, I have not looked into the actual rules, but Florida is always described as a more intense haunt. So I don't know if they're more crowded. What aspect of the haunt? I think it's more crowded. Just watching it, because I do say in an upcoming episode, maybe you will push my ass in a wheelchair through these houses next year.

You did tease that. I did tease that. I did tease that. I was not fully prepared for that this year. Yeah. But the California mazes all seem a lot more claustrophobic. And I think that probably adds to the scares. But the Florida mazes can be a little more elaborate. Are you sure?

Because they have so much room. But are you sure you weren't looking at somebody with a wide-angle lens when they were walking through the Florida mazes can be a little more elaborate at hard nights because they have so much room. But are you sure you weren't looking at somebody with a wide-angle lens when they were walking through the Florida mazes? You think the lens attachment was solely doing that? I think it's possible the lens could make it seem a bit more spacious, but I don't know. I think I'm just going off what the building looked like from the outside. They do have more room for sure. They have like multiple sound stage. A lot of the licensed IP mazes, Universal in Florida are in the big sound stages they use for productions.

Sure. Yes. So yeah, I don't know. It'd be interesting to see if we go, I did not go do Horror Nights when we were there a couple of years ago. And when I say a couple, I mean what five,

is it five years? Yeah. That means a couple to me when we were there a couple years ago. And when I say a couple, I mean what, five? Yeah, it's five. Yeah, it's five. That means a couple to me when you're talking about the COVID years. Yeah. So I don't know. Let's ask the listener also. Are the mazes bigger? Are the walkways bigger there?

I'm not sure. I mean, here's my pitch on why it would be bigger. It feels like a Disney World, Disneyland scenario. Like maybe it is like they have more space. It's more like kind of ample open theme park area. Because it feels like Universal here, you got to cram it in every corner that shouldn't be used. You're in hallways that should be for custodians only. Yeah.

Yeah. So, okay. So that would be more comfortable is what you're saying for you in the scenario where you would go. Well, no, that was more just an aesthetic observation. Well, I'm sure it is scarier if it's a tight quarters. Yeah. But you get that intimacy you're always talking about. That I'm always craving, yes.

Yeah, you want that themed entertainment intimacy. Well, right, because if they they're gonna just jump out they're not they have they have less time in the big open spot open space to jump in your face and say something scary yeah like there's a point in the knots maze uh the new knots maze which i'm already blanking on where an old lady said please stay widows thank you uh please stay for dinner and she got right up in my face and i went i'm sorry like i felt bad she made me feel bad yeah i think i apologize to every victim like no matter the haunt and they're like please help me i'm sorry i can't i have to keep walking through these spooky woods i know that and the last year when we did the saw maze at fright fest every performer is begging for help

yeah and boy like that does kind of get you after acting by the way that's just valencia teens with no osha protection they screwed they screwed on this harness on my head too tight please help me i'm sorry like this is such a fun little game i got hit by the honda helpful h Honda dealer's car that's on display. I'm in a barrel of spiders, but they're real, and they're not supposed to be here. Please help. Ha, ha, ha. Very good.

What a fun hunt. Yeah, so that makes me feel bad. And yes, if they were shouting that across the room, not as impactful. You're not going to feel. I think you can have some, like like vista moments where you're like getting taking in a whole spectacle but definitely you want to be in close quarters for for at least the bulk of a haunt yes um so horror nights we did almost everything in horror nights everything but terror tram i think we were like but terror let's skip it it's always the same and then

afterwards it was like oh megan was there shit i really wish we could have seen megan we we screwed that up like i feel like we were maybe uh enjoying ourselves too much and going at like a leisurely pace we did spend a lot of time which is nice to do nintendo world where there are no haunts for the first and this is yes this is the whole thing and we talked about this a couple episodes ago that that if you go, you can go into Super Nintendo World, and there's no one there. And that is really attractive if you want to do that land, because it's usually just so crazy hot, crazy packed. The line is two hours, and then you go on the ride,

and you go, oh, that was okay. Yeah, it was like the dream version of that land, because it was empty, looked good, and I'd never even been able to get into Toadstool Cafe. Yeah. Yeah. So we went into Toadstool Cafe. We ordered.

It took forever. It took an hour for three mozzarella or whatever. I think they were just bread, right? It was just like bread. They were round planks. Were they planks? Jason, do you approve of three bread balls with I think some Was it mozzarella that came with it I think so yeah

Or a red sauce Or a marinara Blood of Luigi I usually opt for the Ice cold layer cake That is available that looks like A hill from Super Mario That's cute

Yeah that's good There were maybe ten people in the Toadstool Cafe, and it's still, for some reason, Toad was backed up in that kitchen. And I don't know why. I don't know what was happening. He was being chased by the Universal Monsters. He was being chased. He kept going through a door, but it was the red door from Insidious.

So then he had a lot of demons. I need the burger! I'm going to deliver the spicy maple! The weekend ordered something very elaborate and Toad was working on it. You get it from my baby self, my old man self

and my current self. It's a big meal. But it was fun that we saw the attack that happens in Toadstool Cafe. Yeah, that was enjoyable. Which it sort of just resolves without any sort of event. Fanfare. Bowser rolls in and then it just kind of gently goes away.

Yeah, his like big ship comes, flies in and it's like, oh my God, and everything gets dark and the Toads are running for their lives and Bullet Bills are flying around and then it just goes away. You would think there would be some event. Some triumphant moment you'd hope right even like just mario like comes into frame and kicks the ship or like some of the food does some good work or something so like the food what do you mean by the food does some good work like some menu item is anthropomorphized and it like punches Bowser. Like a spaghetti or something. Classic Mario. Spaghetti gets a face

and the meatball, like it throws its meatballs at the ship. Yeah. I mean, I don't hate it. I'm just saying tie it into the restaurant. Sure. I mean, it makes then you go, okay, now I know why the ship went away. And now I know why it took so long because my spaghetti was fighting. Sorry, we had to make more spaghetti.

The spaghetti was fighting Bowser's airship. They should have the food runners come out and deliver your food and their clothes are all tattered and burned. I would love that. That would be really nice. And that wouldn't take longer and I think it's a really good idea.

They have a constant change. Don't you dare go out in that pristine uniform that was just pressed put on the crispy one jason before he eats the spaghetti he'll be like thank you for your service and then he would eat the spaghetti thank you you're a hero spaghetti uh so yeah we got to that we got to the ride which yeah the ride is fine when it's not two hour wait. I have my gripes. We've gone over a million times, but yeah. I think I have the same gripes. This time I did just lift my visor

and kind of look at some of the practical stuff. Yes, because the sets are awesome. Like, all that stuff is good. It still makes no sense and it's confusing no matter how many times you've been on the ride. Yes, it's not as satisfying. Trying to do two things at once and then both experiences are diminished um and you just want to go fast you just as jason said who's recently got it into mario kart huh yeah he just wants to go fast i just want to go okay here's here's a question

and i don't know maybe you've talked about this on Hauntcast the Fright already or another episode, but, or in the future maybe it's happening. What would you do if you were using the Mario area for Halloween Horror Nights? Oh, okay. Is there an attraction, an overlay, or a maze that you would like to see? Spaghetti ghosts. I would probably establish spaghetti ghosts. Well, you would want it to be you're saying specifically Nintendo

like characters or like a different overlay you'd want those little dry bones you'd want some more thwomps right you and the ghosts the ghosts that are in a lot of the games

the booze yeah so the scare actors have to abide by the rules of like oh I would love that I would love that when you face them they have to stop

yes I would love that I think you that when you face them they have to stop yes I would love that yeah I think you would probably the AR goggle aspect of the Mario Kart ride you would turn it into Luigi's Mansion I guess

oh that's fun and maybe you would like suck up ghosts yeah while you're on there that's good could the power-ups be all boos

sure yeah because the ones that kind of make you what not invisible you go invisible or no you can go through things you can like fly through racers that's what it is yeah um so you can walk through or drive through things yeah that could be i don't do they haven't i don't have ghosts on the regular

game i don't think in a regular ride i mean so you would have to that might be hard yeah but i don't know it doesn't i mean you could turn everything a little spooky, turn it to a Luigi's Mansion, some dry bones. Yeah, let's get E. Gadd in there. Oh, E. Gadd's got to come in, tell us some good news, and then say, I can't help you. Marissa recently got into Luigi's Mansion 3. I just played it. Oh, really?

It's fun. Okay. And he's got his little backpack. You could add his little backpack to the land. Yeah, yeah, he had Gooigi. Oh, Gooigi. Yeah. He's all green. That's. You could add his little backpack to the land. Yeah, yeah, Gooigi. Oh, Gooigi. Yeah. He's all green.

That's his name? He's kind of like the mucus tick. That's weird. Or I guess anything that's see-through and green. Yeah. Gooigi is the name of the backpack? No, basically Luigi has a- Backpack full of Gooigi that he squirts out.

Yeah, that's the most accurate way to describe it. Jason, you got to play this game. It's Gooigi. Yeah. I haven't played any Luigi's Mansion games. I played the original GameCube, but I haven't played one in years. I started playing WarioWare, though, a couple years old. Is that Wario impression?

No, that was just me enjoying it. And that's a fun, silly, simple game. But he's not a Halloween character, so I feel like, I don't know. I would want a full maze walkthrough that's not the ride, too. But I guess it would just be Lopiti's Mansion. I guess that's the easiest. I think that's the right call, and I feel stupid for saying Dry Bones. Sure.

But you don't feel stupid for saying spaghetti ghosts. No, spaghetti ghosts is in there. No, they're in there. There's a rumor that's happening eventually. Spaghetti ghosts? No, no, no. There's a rumor that Luigi's Mansion is going to be its own little land in Orlando. Epic universe, right?

Oh, that's cute. With a restaurant in the middle, apparently. Oh, I did not hear this. This is what I heard. Okay, okay. Is this Alicia Stella stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you you alicia for these rumors love your work thank you for your service uh yes uh so a restaurant in the ride is what you're saying or in the land supposedly and this is just from like one of those rumor videos that basically within like imagine like a haunted mansion style ride

yeah in the center of it like blue bayou style is a restaurant so you could maybe see some of the ride going around that rules yes yeah yeah cool so uh the only thing is i'm worried about future nintenna rides is being interactive i wish they could just stop that interactivity i agree i don't care just fun practical please yes so but i'm like i'm everyone's gonna have like a little vacuum and they're gonna goo But everyone's going to have a little vacuum. They're going to goo themselves. Everyone's going to have goo. Everyone will have their own backpack, and then your name with goo.

Yeah. Goo Mike. Goo Mike. Yeah, it's their smaller part. The E.T. saying your name is already hard enough. Trying to make goo us. Make goo a thing already hard enough trying to make goo goo us make goo a thing like it

we're trying to make goo a thing yeah it's just not working if they did it like Monsters Inc. Ride and Seek the Tokyo ride style with like practical

little flashlights and stuff that'd be fun yeah but they won't do that that's a lot of goo to clean up no I want physical goo on every ride

okay alright yeah I feel like you could be goo no bad ideas when you're blue sky and you know goo sky guy I want physical goo on every ride. Okay. All right. Yeah. I feel like you could be goo. No bad ideas when you're blue-skying, you know. Goo-stying. I just went to Twin Peaks. Goo-stying.

Goo-stying. They could have a goo drink, though. They could have, like, fun little drinks. And you could drink Luigi's goo. You could have a Gooigi's ghost dog Or whatever those slime Those slimers dirty water dog The 2019 treat from Halloween Horror Nights

Was that five years ago? That was, that was the last time Ghostbusters had a maze Did I eat that? I didn't personally, but the picture was so crazy Yeah, it was like Crazy relish or something? Yeah, it was like bright relish or something yeah it was like bright green gooey g looking relish okay very like ninja turtles kind of like mutagen yeah i think it was ketchup wasn't it i

don't even think it was relish pink pink ketchup or something something like that it was there is a korean corn dog at universal orlando that when you bite into it, I think it's a hot dog, but then there's also green goo cheese. Green goo cheese? It's green. The color is Slimer goo. You know, classic Korean food.

What's the cheese pull on it, Jason? Well, it was hard to tell because it seemed kind of smushed down from the dog on top. Can we just change you into like a full cheese pull influencer? I really don't want to. What? It doesn't seem appealing to me at all.

Why? But for cash? For hardcore cash? No, I'm gonna hurt myself. Cheese pulling? Well, that cheese is gonna be very hot. And I'm not gonna wait even though I know I'm supposed to. And what if you bite through it too fast and it slaps back at your face? Justin, don't dissuade him from this.

I'll manage you, though, Jason. Yeah, I'm going to take 50%. The corno. Yeah, 70%. I got a live one on the hook here. My Paul Heeman, Justin Michael. Damn it. A javelin murder?

What was it? Jabbing murder. Jabbing murder. And mine also had murder in it. Yeah, I kind of had it. Murderissa. I was still, my mind was distracted because we were talking about Dr. Odyssey a lot. Oh my God, Jason.

Jason's watching the new ABC show, Dr. Odyssey, and he couldn't stop talking about it. But we have... It seems up your alley. The love boat element seems up your alley. I like the sound of Don Johnson's new show, Dr. Odyssey, that you were talking about. But let's get to a few more mazes before we go into Dr. Odyssey territory. I like that you're calling it Don Johnson's new show as opposed to Joshua Jackson's. Is he the main... Is Joshua Jackson the main guy?

Joshua Jackson is the main guy. Okay. Well, I always think the captain should be the star. That's just like ranking wise. It feels right. Because Gavin McLeod was a star of Love Boat. Oh, sure. But it's an ensemble.

Love Boat's an ensemble. I'm sorry to the whole cast. Sorry to Bernie Capel and everyone else. Still alive, Bernie Capel. Still doing okay. No one has anything to say to that huh well let's go back to the mazes not um horror nights i uh uh had a good time i think ghostbusters was the thing i was the most excited for this year and i felt like ghostbusters was a little bit of a letdown compared to five years ago, but I also think we had a bad walk through a maze, which sometimes this

happens if you've gone a lot, usually you'll notice. Sometimes it feels like everyone in the maze is on break. Even the animatronics were on break. Or the animatronics are on break and something's not working. So we went through Ghostbusters and I was, there were like maybe three different rooms

where stuff wasn't working or there was not an there was clearly supposed to be an actor somewhere and they were not there i'd say the last three rooms we missed slimer popping out of a pile of stuff yeah the first slimer right and this is why you go to ghostbusters makes to see slimer pop out of something yes and we see for Ghostbusting, and both of the rooms where Ghostbusting was supposed to happen, we didn't see proton packs firing off. So they have these effects

that are pretty good where a live performer holds a proton pack in the wand, and then they have, what would you, like almost- Like lightning kind of stuff

coming out. Yeah, like neon lighting that's built into the wall or the set that makes it look like it's shooting into the ghost and it looks cool from all the videos and they did a version of it in 2019 yeah yeah um i don't think we saw any of it happening we watched videos that we were sending each other videos and we're like wait a minute this wasn't here this wasn't here oh that guy

that pops out at the end usually has two ghostbusters flanking him. Right. Yes. So I feel like we got a bad walkthrough. And I feel like that maybe colored my feelings about the whole night. I'm not sure. And it's not quite fair because there's still a lot of cool stuff in it. This one had for no reason at all. And I loved it. Vigo the Carpathian. Well, this is what I said.

I teased this a couple of weeks ago on Podcast Thread. I said, there's a spoiler that I've seen. And I'm so upset because I would have been so excited if i didn't know oh and it was vigo the bad guy from ghostbusters 2 the scary guy in the painting he do you know what we're talking about i know vigo i don't know i don't exactly understand the timeline you're talking about well i'm saying on an episode a couple weeks ago i mentioned that this was spoiled for me oh so you knew vigo was gonna be the maze i knew vigo okay great i also got spoiled too you follow too many haunt accounts i know they're they're taking those pictures fast this happens with all the stuff i'm into i follow too many accounts and

then i get spoiled on everything whether it's movies or haunts or coupon deals that are coming up from cvs anything like that i know what's coming jason you saw you watched a video of this walkthrough um i just got the four dollar email like i do some weeks you got a four dollar cvs coupon email yeah is that not what you're talking about well i just mentioned it briefly i'm just saying i i haven't gotten one in a while i uh yeah i watched the video i saw that like the day after opening on one of the coasts I saw Vigo so you saw Vigo so this is exciting to me because I haven't seen the new Ghostbusters I'm maybe

it's good to find I'm not sure I know Vigo's not in the movie but the idea that you could like bring the characters back in the mazes to me is kind of exciting because you can almost like make your own little story yeah I love it in the mazes and I was like oh if they could have more care even more characters coming because like i was worried oh am i gonna get am i gonna get lost i haven't seen the frozen empire if i

go through this maze but then they added vigo in there and i go okay this is a new thing in the movie there is a section they have like a new kind of headquarters where they like research and study ghosts I think in an abandoned aquarium which honestly pretty fun detail yeah why not but they chose to use this area as all the callback ghosts so they had Vigo the Scolari brothers the library ghosts

they were all kind of in that zone yes and that was really that was really fun I almost wanted that room to be a little more like substantial because the room almost felt room to be a little more substantial because the room almost felt kind of boring a little bit. It almost felt like a mundane office. And then it was like, I want a really big epic thing

where you see all the different, or you go into, I think I said at the time, go into the containment unit itself somehow. Oh, fun. And you see all the characters, because the containment unit is basically hell. You've trapped all these ghosts for eternity. you like make it like uh scary make it weird yeah um but still very excited to see uh vigo i'm glad he was not on break oh we're lucky we're lucky that we saw vigo he gets no breaks he's trapped in a painting he's trapped in a painting

and as i get that is one of speaking of things uh scared that scared me as a kid vigo was one of the earliest things i saw that scared the shit out of me and you've never been to a museum since i hate museums don't even say the word i hate sculptures i hate paintings uh i hate peter mcnichols i hate peter mcnichol i just tried to think of his last name that That's funny you said that. Although, actually, it was the opposite. I liked him forever. Well, he was kind of funny.

He had a funny broad accent. He was doing a very broad foreign man accent. Yes, he was really going for it. And anytime I see it, I go, Ellie McBeal, maybe they should watch Ellie McBeal because he's on the show. And somewhere Lindsay just was like, yes. Right, yeah. I've never watched Ellie McBeal, maybe they should watch Ellie McBeal because he's on the show. And somewhere Lindsay just was like, yes. Right, yeah.

I've never watched Ellie McBeal either, but I know he's in there and the dancing baby's in there. And then Donnie Jr. shows up later too. And Donnie Jr. shows up later. I don't think you need to watch it, but you can. You think I need to? No, I don't think you need to. Oh, okay. I don't think you need to, but if you want, go for it.

But that is, because Ghostbusters 2 is 87, I believe. Wow. So I am like three years old. I'm obsessed with the Ghostbusters and my parents or my mom take me to the movie. Wow. And that was too much for me.

I was traumatized by the goo under the city in the sewer uh i was traumatized by vigo and i was traumatized that peter vancman got in trouble with the rest of the ghostbusters when they stormed into that restaurant full of goo and the police arrested all four of them and i was like peter vancman didn't do anything why is he going with them that felt like traumatizing to me in a way where i was like he got in trouble for something he didn't do like there was something about that that stuck with me and i don't know why overreach just haunted you well right that activated me that's why i'm so left wing now it was ghostbusters too and you knew you lived right outside of chicago and oh boy i knew that yes so yeah all of that combined so see so i there I get a little extra like a little extra

I don't want to say I was gonna say tingle that's not right I got an extra feeling when I see Viggo I get a little gooey it stirred the gooey in your body yeah uh when I see Viggo so I was like oh good oh good because because I like it I'm like oh it's really like speaks to like the child-brained fear that i had it just made me wish we had a real ghostbusters 2 maze because we got the first one yes i know yeah and like just have like the big painting where like his face is like pushing out or like going to the river of slime like that would be so cool i mean i don't think people liked that movie when it came out but uh because we grew up with it i think we're all in the age range where that was impactful.

And people have come around. I think they're like, yeah, now that we have like sequels upon sequels of anything, like to me, that one stands up. Yeah. I don't understand the hate for, I don't understand the hate for that

or Wayne's World 2. How? But like I can see both movies where it's like, okay, the first one is like kind of perfect. Yes. Yeah. And I can see where the second one's

maybe not perfect, but it's at least like three out of four. I always associated Ghostbusters 2 with Return of the Jedi, where it's like maybe not the strongest as an adult looking at it, but it's a lot of fun stuff that kids like. There's a lot more fun, kooky action scenes. Yeah. And especially in Ghostbusters 2, there's so much lore building.

The slime packs. Two of them had the protein packs. Two of them had the slime packs. Proton packs. Protein. Oh, my God. You know. You were thinking of like protein bars or something probably?

Probably. Protein planks. Protein planks? Yeah. I was thinking about the plant they were haunting me. Did they have any protein cheese that you could put inside a mozzarella stick? There has to be protein cheese. Yeah, there's got to be.

Like a muscle milk protein cheese? Oh, wow. This could be your angle. This is your deal. If you want to be Big Justice, which is what you said earlier, because AJ and Big Justice, the Costco guys, they're very strong and tough guys. They are very strong. So you could be a protein cheese mozzarella stick influencer.

I guess I'm a little more interested in their cookie business. The double chocolate chunk? The double chocolate, yeah. You're going to heat those cookies up really hot to get a good pull, though. With that, you want a clean break. No, I want the cookie pull. You want a little pull though. With that, you want a break. You want a clean break. No, I want the cookie pull.

You want a little pull on the goo? Russ is right. You got to do a cookie pull. Okay. Maybe I can try with those crumble cookies that it's like 2,000 calories a cookie or something. Do you know about this? I know that brand.

I don't know the caloric intake. They're apparently very intense calorically. It's just butter. How much are they? Just a lot. Like 1,500 calories or 1,000 calories. How big are they? Are they this big? I think they're larger. Okay. I'm stressed out.

I sent those to my mom one time during COVID. I was like, here's something nice. Oh my God. She survived, so it's okay. She didn't respond for two and a half weeks. Well, we just got one in Burbank, but it's across from a Porto's. And it's like, I'm not going to another bakery across from Porto's.

Are you kidding me? You mean you'd rather just go to Porto's? Yeah, I'd just rather go to a local family-owned bakery. This is me popping out of a boo box for Scott right now. But Justin and I just watched an old Huell Hauser episode on Porto's, and it was a delight. Oh, he would like that. Scott would like that. Yeah.

He's a Huell guy. You started speaking like Huell a little bit. No, I didn't. We just watched an episode on Porto's, and it was a delight. Another beautiful day on Podcast The Ride. That might have just bit me I go into that sometimes too you just go Huel mode

if you podcast long enough that's not sicko mode that's Huel mode ah wow you got how much are these how much are these meatballs before they can answer he's just moved on to somebody else. Yeah, somebody not unrelated just holding the microphone at them.

We love him. I love him so much. He means well, but he maybe is the rudest man. Like it's both things. Wow, extremely relatable. We've teased a Huel episode, but we've never done it on the show. You should do it. We're watching one every night before bed. Truly, we've been watching a lot a Huel episode But we've never done it On the show You should do it We're watching one

Every night before bed Truly We've been watching a lot of Huel Wow So it's all Yeah Huel and Dr. Odyssey

The two top shows still Oh we're all still young We're all still very vibrant Watching Huel and Dr. Odyssey Oh yeah So yeah Ghostbusters It still was fun

I just think We should have probably gone through again But that was the last I think we saved that one For the last that was the final one we went on That was the decision it was a weighing point of like Okay we've taken the long walk To get to Insidious and Ghostbusters Which one do we want and I think

It was agreed upon we should end on a bang Which was the one we were waiting for Ghostbusters right right we should say Before well I should say um before well i should say before i went there was a lot of talk online on twitter on haunt twitter that the teens were out of control this year and i saw it in regards to knots i saw it in regards to horror nights and i was like i don't know, because these long paragraphs, people writing about how the teens were out of control and there needs to be something done about the teens. And recently there's been a lot of like chaperone policies put in place that go up on the Twitters of Universal or not.

And I was expecting like marauding groups of teens at this. And I didn't see any crazy teen activity. We were just having a good time. Yeah. Right. Normal. The teens out of control, I saw in regards to Universal Orlando.

Oh. Because I think you run into things there more where maybe someone buys the season pass for Horror Nights, the frequent fear yeah pass and then they just come back all the time they just drop them off at the start and pick them up at 2 a.m you know so yeah so these people these people are not uh treating the haunts with reverence they're uh using this as their like hangout space so they're yeah but it's still there was a vibe to me of some of these posts where like,

it was just like old people annoyed that teens were having fun. Yes. Yeah. Or like a 25 year old being annoyed that an 18 year old was having fun. You know, like we had a teen run in and not, not to get ahead of the universal, but I did too.

Okay. Maybe we save our teen stories for later. Based on the way that you just the vibe i think i did yeah okay well all i'm saying i think they're gonna be two different stories i'm sure they're gonna be two well i don't know if we say them simultaneously they might become one story it could all happen um they the thing i heard about universal here was on more crowded nights they were still uh at the beginning at least fine-tuning the like keep it moving no slowing down yes sometimes they really usher you through fast

and then sometimes they let you linger a little bit uh and i don't know you when we went to universal i was like okay i wasn't like so offended by them rushing us through no i didn't feel like they were pushing us through see i again I, again, like watching videos of this, watching live streams, there was like weeknights where it was deserted and then like the first Saturday in October hit and it was just packed. Yeah.

Well, yeah, it depends. I mean, like, I feel like it was pretty crowded when we went. It was really busy, yeah. Yeah. But it's been, it depends. And then, yeah, Knott's wasn't so crowded at all. Yeah, and that was late September, wasn't it?

When we went? Yeah. To Universal. When we went, yeah, it was like a week after it opened. Yeah. So, yeah. Did you do Insidious? We did all of them.

Yeah, we did all of them. Oh, you did do it. Okay. How was that? Because that I've heard is very scary that's what everyone was saying and this is another thing about the discourse when you see stuff online it was like oh my god i don't get frightened by mazes but insidious like this was i saw this like a couple times at least a couple times if not like five times and then insidious was i would say scary

but it's pretty normal for like it wasn't anything above the ordinary version of Haunt Maze. They had a couple of those, I don't know if they're like scrims or what. You know what I mean? Like the screens that light up and then look opaque. And they did that fun. Yeah. Because there was one where it was double-sided. And I thought that was a fun. Yeah. You know, because there was one where it was like double-sided and I thought that was like a delight.

Right. And they had at least one room that was still the sort of, the thing that scares me the most in the mazes is the rooms with some mannequins and some real humans. And that is,

no matter what, no matter if I get like really tired by the end of the night and that means that I'm less scared because I'm kind of over the idea of this, that still gets me. What do you think that is? is that you're uneasy about who's real I think yeah I think not like because because so much of the maze like just pattern you can anticipate now you can see there oh that's there and I can see this person jumped out here like you can you know

the rhythm of it but if you walk into a room and half is half of the room is mannequins and half are humans there's just still some uneasiness to me because i can't guess necessarily i'm in the same boat i think anytime one of those rooms happens they did it with like halloween before with a bunch of michael myers or even like the cinema slasher and knots like they have like movie theaters where there's just some people sitting in the theater seats are real some aren't and i think it is like you know that one of them is going to be real right but if they do a good enough job you don't know who it's going to be and you don't have time because you're walking so you don't have time to really sit and assess who's moving a little bit and there's just some element of like i don't know and i can't know and i'm about to know and i'm about to know i would

say if you it sound sounds like an old kernel, but if you look at their eyes and their eyes are kind of glossy, like real eyeballs, you're like, oh, that's a human. Sure. Sometimes they have masks on.

I know sometimes they do, but I would say like, as I was walking through some in knots recently, like I would immediately be like, oh, you're the human. Like, cause they're, I could just see their eyes, even if they were wearing a mask.

I think though, I am still at a heightened sense of like awareness or like I am a little, I'm still on edge going through the mazes. I'm not so like, like I hate to drop the, the macho act, but I'm not so comfortable going through the maze. It's not like I'm totally over being scared. That's more fun. I think it's better. Cause it's not like i'm totally over being scared that's more fun i think it's eroded i agree i agree with me like i was so scared and didn't do them like you and then over the years have been kind of like my senses have been dulled yeah right and that happens at the end of the night often too but certain things and depending like how much like serotonin i have that day and like

depending like there's different elements and different like factors that sometimes can factor into how much is the real world weighing on you yeah yeah yeah as you go through the maze you're like jesus fucking christ like yeah i guess this isn't scary compared to everything else yeah yeah i want to uh yeah i want to know about this serotonin level i really should have a tracker but i don't know yeah are you are you just thinking about treats are you taking supplements like what do you think i'm not i'm just saying sometimes you feel like you're a little depleted i don't know yeah i say my tea i mean we know my tea is okay we we i have my tea tested accidentally a couple months ago accidentally well there was some health thing going on which luckily seems to

have resolved itself, but they ordered the full blood test and included there was my T. Wow. And I was so excited because I wanted to know what my T was. What's the T? And the T, it was like a little, it's a little under normal, like halfway normal.

Great. But then I saw some other things of people around my age and they had way lower and I was like, I'm doing pretty good. Yeah, so you're like lowercase edging towards uppercase T. Yeah, you're edging, Mike. Oh, Jim getting started on that. Well, you've got to. It takes a while. If anyone on this show talks about edging, this guy right here.

Oh, well, you flattery. And I will manage you if you want to become an edging influencer. What's your cheese pull? Protein cheese edging influencer. The cheese pull is so slow. He's edging eating the cheese. The tooth is barely bitten through the mozzarella stick.

It's too hot. It is too hot, my friend. It's too hot. It is too hot, my friend. It is too hot. It's so hot. I don't want to burn myself by the chilies. Tantric mozzarella. Sell that at the Toadstool Cafe. So, yeah.

So, I also, I went to Knott's alone. Oh, really? Yes. Tell me. I went to Knott's alone. Oh, really? Yes. I went to Knott's and we'll get to Knott's in one sec. I mean, cause we'll hit the highlights or whatever. But I went to Knott's and I walked in and for whatever reason, I'm walking through ghost town and it's dark and the lights are there. And I remember thinking to myself, oh, I'm scared.

Like I'm feeling scared. I'm feeling, cause I don't usually go alone to these things. Of course. I've never gone alone. And it felt interesting. Now, I ran into some new friends immediately and ended up going through mazes with these people.

Are these the teenagers? These are not the teens. Are they sliders? No. They were not sliders. Sliders did not just clock out on the job and decide to go through the mazes with me. I had an hour and then I had to get back to it. I want to spend it going through my work. No, I was just wondering if they were the universal employees from the Ghostbusters maze.

Oh, because that's where they were. They drive all the way from the valley to Buena Park. No, it was not them. But for the first so many minutes, I was like, oh, no. Huh. Just going with one person, oh, no. Huh. Just going with one person really changes my brain, huh? You didn't read enough of the marketing material for these haunts in the past that said never go alone. I didn't read enough.

I didn't read the one print ad. Yeah, because you're scared of libraries from the first Ghostbusters. That's true. That cold open, that the first Ghostbusters. That's true. That cold open, that scared me as a kid. That's why I'm such a bad reader. We had an old used VHS purchased from a West Coast video. Yeah. When I watched it at home, when I was super into the Ghostbusters,

I was like, I don't need to watch this first scene. Fast forward to that. Let's get to the hotel. Let's get to some ghost busting. Cold open? I just need an open. I need a warm open. Hot from the oven.

I need to hear these very sarcastic things Bill Murray is saying on his talk show that I do not understand the punchline, but I, at the the time understood the patter was funny. That's the Ghostbusters 2 opening, yeah. It's in the bookstore the first. You were going to say it's in the book. He has his own talk show

in the second movie. I fast forwarded through the books. Yeah, that was too scary. Yeah. Let's do a couple more highlights of Universal Horror Nights. The Purge. Did you guys do your...

We did not do the Purge this year. That was part of Terror Tram, right? Yeah, yeah. I think it was all Blumhouse stuff. Well, it was the show.

Oh, sorry. Dangerous Waters. I feel like it was so good last year. It was good. We don't need to sully our perceptions. Right. I think it was was so good last year. It was good. We don't need to sully our perceptions. Right.

I think it was pretty similar. Yeah, it was pretty similar. And we really liked it last year. Yeah. I thought it was great. We just didn't have time. Toadstool Cafe took three and a half hours. We were having a really nice leisurely time.

And I don't say that jokingly. I was like, oh, this is a nice pace. And then at the end, I was like, uh-oh. Yeah. We were like, oh, no, we need to do a lot. Yeah, I would say the lines like because you got like a Chucky themed drink too

and that line was a little bit that was that was your Toadstool Cafe yes I had a couple silly drinks I tweeted pictures of them

or what do you say it now X'd pictures of them I don't even know posted can you say tweeted posted that's fine yeah

tweeted I had a big candy In one of them And the other one Was a weekend drink That had a big syringe in it They were cute They were fun

And they were cute and fun And sugary And it's hard It hurts my tummy A little bit now To have alcohol and sugar But I had to do it for work So I did it

Yeah But I liked both of those And we did not get to go To the weekend bar What two years ago I think But we did We went up there and they could they could do a little more with it but i do enjoy listening to loud weekend music uh up on jurassic patio yeah i thought it was sweet how was his house oh uh the weekend i i liked it but i missed the iconic

mirrors from the Super Bowl performance. The first weekend maze had, if you remember, I don't remember this. It's been kind of memed and gifed to death where he's kind of going through a funhouse mirror. It's from the Super Bowl and it was in the first maze. Oh. And that was like, I got so excited. And I feel like I yelled,

it's the Super Bowl mirror area or something. I don't remember. I probably said it on the show. But that was, I was so excited. So I was like, they got it's the Super Bowl mirror area or something. I don't remember. I probably said it on the show. But I was so excited. So I was like, they got to do it bigger this year, huh? They got to have more mirrors. No, just more babies and old men. Yeah, it was the weekend.

So we'll say the exterior is different. And the exterior was great. I really was enjoying the exterior because there's a DJ. And it looked like you get different DJs depending on the time you walk up. You can get old man DJ or you can get young man DJ. Right, so you can get old weekend or young weekend. And then did we see the turnover or no? We didn't see the turnover, but I saw it online.

Right, and they do a little show where the young one comes up and I don't know, does he kill the old one? I think he kills, I think they kill each other and take the place of the other. I think that's right. But yeah, they're DJing loud weekend music. That facade is really good.

The facade is very cool. That's honestly maybe my favorite part of that maze, which is crazy. Yes, I would agree. And there's still some stuff in there I liked, but I felt like, yeah, the first weekend maze was a little more iconic. I remember it a little bit more. It still seemed like it was the same sort of vague, like, oh, celebrity plastic surgery culture and like all like. Yeah, it's a meat house.

Like you're at a slaughterhouse. Like Hollywood is a slaughterhouse or something. Those were the images I was conjuring up based on like a bandaged woman with a big rotating saw. So it was a lot about the critical reception of his HBO show. There should have been a room full of just like The Idol.

A lot of reviews of The Idol on the wall. That would honestly be very funny. That would be funny. I would love that. I agree. I would love that. There's a lot of in the maze i feel like there were a lot of like uh like john carpenter's the thing style like baby weekend baby head spiders i like the body horror in it yeah yeah yeah because i think at the end there's like a the merging it felt very thingy of like the old the young and the middle weekend. Yes, the middle weekend. Which I guess is now, right?

Current weekend? I guess. Speaking of old and young, can we talk about the crows? Oh, the big crows? The walk-around crows? Well, there's a baby crow this year. There was, in the past, a walk-around big crow creature. Right. And they just have keep

expanding it out where now there's like a family of crows including a baby in a nest. Yes. We walked up to that baby. An animatronic baby. Right. I liked it. Yeah. That was really fun. I feel like this year Horror Nights especially had some

really fun like scare zone stuff. Yeah. Because they had the evil zombie luchadors, which were awesome. Yeah. And then this area, too, with an animatronic baby crow. Because I'm trying to think, is there like a... What's the... Oh, I guess it's Power Rangers.

The 1994 Power Rangers, there's these giant crows that Ivan, who's like six on the Power Rangers. And it's very much like that. And those scared me to some degree in 94. Seven years post-Ghostbusters 2. But the gentleness and the humor of Ivan ooze softened the scares for me at that point.

Also, ooze. You know what I mean? Ivan ooze, yeah. He was a kinder ooze for you. And goose. Gooseweege we gee i would love a power rangers maze now that i'm thinking that would be a delight yeah just a bunch of suits with the monsters and stuff that'd be a delight yeah that'd be great they're they're well universal is doing that i mean we've talked about this too much lately i feel like universal is doing a non horror event next spring and i feel like it's a test to just do that every year with non-horror mazes temporary

walk through little shows just like an immersive experience yeah not spooky well or i mean it could be maybe a look because they're doing a star trek all i want is to go on the enterprise d and they're building the enterprise d or they're taking the star trek picard set and moving it but there's going to be some show maze aspect to it so i feel like now they're opening it up for any property. It doesn't have to be horror. So it could be Dr. Odyssey. It could be. It could be Dr. Odyssey.

It could get some anime in there. It could get Sailor Moon or Chainsaw Man or something. Well, they're doing anime. But they're doing anime. Oh, they're doing One Piece, aren't they? Yeah. And they're doing something else too, I think. But yeah, we could do a Power Rangers.

That would be fun. Yeah. They could do, Marissa, they could do a match game maze. I mean, I think. But yeah, we could do a Power Rangers. That would be fun. Yeah. They could do, Marissa, they could do a match game maze. 70s match game. Who knows, you might get some non-consensual kisses from the host. I would take it from a Richard Dawson lookalike.

Lip kisses. Yeah, it's not, I mean, yeah, it's supposedly not scary, but you will be lip kissed in every room. If you, before each maze, you sign a document and you just say which character you're comfortable getting lip-kissed by.

So on Ghostbusters, Vigo could lip-kiss me and I sign off on it. And then if he wants to, he can kiss me. Star Trek, what do I like? Data could kiss me.

Commander Data. He's practicing. He's trying to learn how to be more human he's practical he's practical he's a human being yeah uh so yeah that would be good that's a good that's a plus up you pay an extra 200 to kiss a performer and then they have this little card or this electronic cue that they need to be like all right the one in the blue hoodie needs this kiss. You want a heads up display for the performers. You could have the no boo necklace

that they have. It could be like a yes smooch. Yes smooch. Yes smooch belly button ring. Belly rub? You have to be rubbing your belly through the entire... That's like a light up corset you wear. And then there's something around your mouth. You have like a dentures.

Just arrows pointing. Are those like beautiful, what are they? The wax lips? You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, yeah. Joker lips? Yeah, let's get some Joker lips in there. Yeah, so maybe Universal will debut that next spring.

I'm going to be so annoying to the universal pr people about like do you think i could get in there early maybe like do you help build could i help like could i help build the set or something like yeah are you down with a kiss you kiss the help the construction workers if it gets me in sure what do i care um so yeah i again i like the weekend and yeah the exterior was cool and the exterior was better than the first one and I got confused and you corrected me Justin I thought this meant that there was gonna be three weekend mazes because they called this a trilogy but then just because so I was like oh this this must be an announcement there's gonna be another one but I don't think

that's the case I think it was something like past present future right again I think it was something like past, present, future, weekend was the vibe. But it was not super clear. Yeah. And there could be another one. There's no guarantee now that we'll get another weekend, which I'm in favor. I'm in favor of more pop stars getting mazes. Well, Slash did music for the one. Slash has done music. For the Van Helsing.

Janelle Monae did the haunted hay rides yeah did you to do this we didn't do the haunted hay ride kind of bowed out recently of haunted hay ride yeah that's what i've heard a lot of people say it feels like it's really dipped in quality and i can't speak to i think the performers always doing a great job they're always giving it their all but it feels like it got cheaper maybe or like i i remember i think they brought it to new york a few years ago and it felt like they sent off some of their off all of the props because when we started when we first went like years ago they had some really elaborate sets and right they used like a tree trimmer to have like a cultist grow like 30 feet and then there were

crow people again like that were on like kind of these like bouncing stilts kind of coming at you while you were on the tractor right um and then like a spooky kind of like adam's family like car crash or something i don't remember what they were the actual adam's family no no but like a version of like a black and white tv show uh do you remember this it was like one of the first years. Oh, it was very cool. There were televisions. I don't think it happened.

I don't remember it. I'm going to gaslight you. Yeah, more haunted mazes where this gears just comes from gaslighting. You didn't pay for Express. No, you don't have Express. Snipping off the wristband for him you wanted this kiss uh uh we should okay let's hit some highlights faster because we have to get some other stuff

to some other stuff uh quiet place i did like the maze i did like quiet place and i got to go on it days later without the lights, oh, excuse me, with the lights on. Oh, fun. And this is like a pass holder thing you can sign up for, and you get to go on it. So I got to see everything. And there's a lot of like puppet, whatever you call it, animatronics,

half puppet, half animatronics, I get the sense. Yeah, that's cool. That like there's some element maybe of the face. So these like scary Quiet Place place monsters they have a decent amount of them yeah like five or so and there's a giant one good sculpts good sculpts and like really uh i don't know i guess they're pretty close i mean everything gets pretty close to you but close enough to make you uncomfortable hard to pull off a quiet place style maze i wish that like it could be kept really quiet that is what i thought it was going to be more of but i think

just by the nature of the way they have to do mazes if it was like a delusion or like immersive style haunt we're like you are forced to kind of like be quiet yeah points you have like 40 minutes to do something right right right be a cool it would be cool but I think they use the mechanic

well because they were able to like have like a baby cry or like a branch break or whatever the things were and then the monster shows up so at least they're giving us the like we're supposedly quiet even though yeah in a perfect version i like your idea they did yeah they did the best version of the way they do have to do mazes totally but yeah you can imagine a version where it's like we had to like tiptoe that'd be very fun like it would be very fun but there would just the capacity would be low on it but it was cool and it was cool to see it with the lights on and i will give uh universal credit because they did something that

was really funny and i didn't think they would do is that the last two monsters they turned on on the lights because that's cool that's fun that's scary yes exactly so there were people i think i didn't expect anything to be on because because you walk through the first so many rooms and there's some like i think some of the audio was on but the lights are up and like you can see sort of the puppets or robots slumped going through there and then the last two all of a sudden they came to life and started scaring everybody. And people were going like nuts. It was really fun because you really didn't expect that.

And I don't know if they always do that. But yeah, that was great. So you got a little scare. I forget if I did anything else. No, because I didn't go to Horror Nights that night. It was later. So I think that was one of the best ones, A Quiet Place, overall.

The monster one was really good, or was a really good concept, at the very least. I feel like there were maybe performers missing. Which one are you talking about? Van Helsing's daughter and the Bride of Frankenstein with a Thelma and Louise style paper. Yes, it was all like the

women... The universal monsters that were women or like kind of a, like. There's no woman Van Helsing. No. Vanna Helsing. Yeah. Helsina.

Helsina, so her last name also changes. But it was like, yeah, like whatever, like daughter of Van Helsing fighting off like Bride of Frankenstein. But they were teamed up, weren't they? They were teamed up. Yeah. Against girl Dracula. Right.

And that was officially her name, girl Dracula. And she had a little Minnie Mouse bow. Yeah. That's how you could tell she was a girl. Her teeth were barely pointed. Yeah, a little softer edges. And then it had a sad ending, too. Yes, spoiler, she got killed, right?

You have Van Helsing's daughter gets killed at the end of it. Now, I think this, they might be changing sometimes. What do you mean? Like, sometimes it's, you know. Oh, there's different endings? In the past past they've had these monster mazes where they would have a different monster come on top depending on the hour oh that's cool but i don't know i actually didn't see it if that they're doing it the same thing with this i've seen different endings on this oh maybe i'm not a hundred percent on that like sometimes they get

married and sometimes she dies like sometimes there could be a wildly different conclusion. Sometimes you get a kiss, sometimes she dies. Sometimes, yeah. You had a sweet observation about it. Oh, thank you. We were talking in the car on the way over here. I think this was one of my favorites, not necessarily because it was my top maze of the night, although I love classic Universal Monsters.

It almost feels like that's the IP I'd rather see them use than anything else. Right. But it was in the soundstage that they shot the original Frankenstein. So to know that you were inside of where they shot one of the original movies just kind of added to the vibe. Yes. I think that's very cool. You can only do that at Universal Hollywood. I feel like Florida usually gets the better reviews

of the two Universals. Right. And I feel like that's something you can only get here. Yes. That's cool. I agree. I almost wish, because they do tell you that. I almost wish they were announcing it more

that it was there. And then I was also thinking, oh, man, you could do like a you're on the set or something like you're back in time maze that would be really cool like a haunted film set and then like they're filming a monster movie yeah or yeah but yeah recreate a lot of stuff to make it feel more even haunted than that because it is so fun like yeah i'm trying to think of this is gonna do this bad explanation for these thoughts i have we're gonna derail this the rest of this episode but sometimes my brain will go back and forth

between like when you go to the warner brothers lot and you go oh my god casablanca filmed here my two favorite movies casablanca and batman forever filmed on the same sound stage or whatever and my brain goes back and forth being this is the coolest thing I've ever experienced and seen to like, who gives a shit? It doesn't matter. Like I go back and forth between going, that's not the movie's not here. It's not actually in this physical space. But I have these like wild swinging thoughts sometimes about how like, oh, my God, I'm in the space where they made that thing I like versus like who cares about it. I want to be more like, oh, my God, god that's amazing and i do have that thought in addition but it's

almost like i was like yeah but couldn't they have like a couple of these sound stages with some of the bandmen for a set so you get you like jog my memory so that's where i start like thinking about like oh if they really did a maze that's recreating this that would be really cool really lock me into the good feeling I want to have. I really like that. I know this is like jumping ahead a little bit, but the Knot's Maze grimoire like has like a flashback kind of element. So if you like did that in one of the sets,

you know what I mean? Like, so either you start on, you know, you're in the time of filming Frankenstein or you're on a maze that's taking place where frankenstein was filmed and then you like have those like laser barriers and like yeah go oh you get to like step into the scene and then back onto the set or james whale's gone crazy and he's killing people on the frankenstein set it's an alternate history i think i've said this on

the show before it's and i don't know if I've described it like this, but sometimes I feel like I'm unplugged from the Matrix and I want to be plugged back in. And sometimes it'll happen on rides. And I think we talked about this on Soarin', or maybe you want to mention that sometimes even when you go to Disney, maybe you're extra tired. And when we used to go all the time, it was a little bit less like, oh, my God, we're at Disneyland or something. But there would be a moment on maybe a certain ride when you get locked in again. It's like when I get plugged back into the Matrix. So I'm constantly looking for ways

to plug myself back in. You gotta start doing hard drugs. I guess like do mushrooms and go to Disneyland. Yeah. No, harder. Have you thought about doing heroin and going on the carousel? That sounds terrible.

Yeah, I don't know if that's the same high I'm chasing. Well, he said our drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was responding to him. But he was saying something to make me feel like the magic is there. More present. Versus the fact that I was going to be just shaking on a pony. Well, the magic's there when you start seeing that dragon, you know?

I mean, I got a colonoscopy And they give you a real heavy duty opioid To get you knocked you out there They gotta rush you to Disneyland right after You gotta get that colonoscopy and go straight to Mr. Toad If they can do the colonoscopy at Disneyland Wow And you kind of come out when you're on a ride

Then maybe that is what I'm talking about getting plugged in Do you guys know what I'm talking about when I say that? I know exactly what you're saying I think it's the ravages of time, and we're less excitable. Well, and you've made this your job, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so you have to see all this stuff.

Oh, yeah. So it's like, I feel the same way, and I was only half joking. I was like, drugs. When I first did, would have a crazy edible and go to Disneyland, it was like, okay, what are the rides I want to experience where I'm just like fully immersed in this thing? Right, right.

Because it like connects you to this like pure like childlike state. Yeah, yeah. Where I'm like, I'm just like feeling it all. You're just kind of in it. Right. Yeah. So I'm saying they need to cater to me more and make it so I can't deny that I'm feeling the specialness and magicalness of this. And it's not just an empty soundstage.

Well, I want to deviate fully to Huellhauser one more time. Oh, go ahead. Because Marissa and I recently watched an episode where they go to the Warner Ranch. And you know when they shot it? They shot it when those sets were there. So they were taking down one of the Batman sets. And so you get to see people working on it and then they go on set and they're filming an episode of lois and clark oh wow i think this might be the closest you're gonna get mike to the magic yeah

no it sounds magical watching jimmy olsen do the same take where he like walks out of a building uh-huh over and over and over the closest i'm like going into walt's apartment the one time i got to do that and at disneyland that's like immediately it did feel like there was a ghost in there and i was like yeah like thank goodness this feels haunted thank good like there sometimes you do get it where it's just the like the feeling you want then sometimes you gotta like the motor's gotta get going you gotta do drugs you do drugs. You got to do drugs. You must do drugs. Oh, man. So, yeah.

So, there were points of all this stuff where I was plugged back in. Ironically, I saw a video recently, and correct me if I have the details wrong, but the Phantom of the Opera soundstage was torn down to build Super Nintendo World. Is that right? Oh, yeah. I think that is right. It's true. Because they didn't want to.

It was supposedly not touched. That was a haunted set. Yeah, because it was cursed. Right. It was haunted. Why Bowser's Challenge is so bad. It's why our Toad food didn't get to us in time. Oh, my God.

It was the Phantom. Yeah, it all makes sense now. Yeah, well, I'm sure there's got to be other haunted sets. I was looking for other stuff to do and there was a San Diego house that they say is haunted. And then I found a special on some cable network

called The Haunting of Regis Philbin. Ooh. Where Regis goes into this house and explains that years ago he had some sort of like ghost experience in there uh and it just sounded like he was with like a friend of his and then they saw a ghost and his friend tried to attack it oh my god and then the ghost went away and then regis is back in there with like a medium and the medium look she was not doing a good like this was

one of the like you know in a medium you go i don't buy it i just don't buy it the medium was just totally busted like he did not believe this medium busted busted by me that was the kind of thing you're meaning i just meant like shitty like down and out like kind of shit i just he was doing like the normal medium stuff that just feels so insincere yeah i just feel like hot cold testing like where like, oh, are you thinking about a woman? You know? Yeah. Would you want to be a millionaire or not? It's like a person's name in your head right now.

A, B, C, D, and your F. Oh, it's F. Oh, I knew. Yes, I can see it now. I can see the F. And you're like, this, what? Yeah, I don't, I'm, I'll be honest. I'm not somebody who like believes in ghosts. I don't Yeah, I don't, I'm, I'll be honest. I'm not somebody who like believes in ghosts.

I don't really, I don't believe in mediums like detecting things. I don't judge you if you do. But I feel like there are some mediums where I'm like, they believe it. And I like that where it's like, cool. But then there's something that's like, you're a scam artist. And it's, you're too obvious that you're scamming somebody. But there's a fine line between the two people you described, though. Well, they got to be scamming themselves, I guess, is what I'm saying.

Because there are people that believe it that are also scamming everyone for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah. So there's like a weird fine line. I know what you mean and I agree with you, but it's like tough to know sometimes. Because you're like, I think these people fully believe themselves but and then you can argue like well they're giving people comfort on some level so maybe but still i didn't like what this lady was doing to regis i mean it wasn't like regis was like oh my god it's so overwhelmed but she was still like your friend wants you to know and i'm like oh come on, come on. Regis, don't listen to her.

You're savvier than this, Regis. But anyway, we won't do that. I thought about calling a Regis second gate for this. Because Regis is, we talk about him a lot because he did all those parades for Disney. And he's on so many different holiday parades. Just Christmas Day screaming at people. Just wanting up and down Main Street screaming.

Very good. I like watching old down Main Street screaming. Very good. I like watching old Regis clips, too. He's in the same vein. I feel like it's Huell comforting old men. There's that clip of him dressed as Shrek on Letterman. Oh, my God. It's incredible. One of the greatest clips of all time.

As it unfolds, every detail is better than the last. Letterman is so mean to him he's so mean and annoyed by it all and just the constant relationship they had where he was just so mean to regis i don't know i shouldn't laugh so much in it but it's such good television it's so much better than anything now it's incredible um but that that's when i get i get plugged in when i see regis clips okay we need that maze that's when the magic is back um uh what else uh from hornets chucky we did late night with chucky which was a show that seemed to have a pretty long line for

the whole night yeah it was a pretty short show i would say it's like 15 minutes and it felt like it supposedly you were able to uh type questions to chucky in advance but it really felt like it supposedly you were able to type questions to Chucky in advance. But it really felt like the questions that were offered were either canned questions or questions from previous in the night. It didn't feel like they were actually culling questions from our audience. That was my interpretation. There was a QR code where you would like scan it with your phone and then you would input a question. And it was a very short amount of time to do it and it didn't feel like any interesting questions were maybe being asked no it was like a whole pre-show it was in like the shrek 4d or dreamworks kind of theater

right person who ran the pre-show was killer show was the best part of awesome yes she was incredible whatever actor we had i was like damn she's good yeah cast this person and everything everything uh it was fun because it was like oh you're seeing like a late night show hosted by chucky yeah and then things are gonna go wrong but then when you got inside it was cool there was a live prop like an animatronic yeah hosting it yes yeah that was fun. It felt like a great proof of concept idea. And I hope they do it again or a different version of it.

It didn't feel like it was quite there. It didn't quite work. It needed to be a little more on its toes. Like it seemed like it was a little on its heels. And Chucky's got those

cute little toes. We want to see him running on those cute little toes. Andy, check out my cute toes. Show feet. Usually, usually you got to sign up for my free only pants to see this. Tiffany hates that I use it. I don't know why I turned into Roz.

Oh, from Monster Think? Yeah, Roz. Yeah, so it was like Chucky had a little bit of a lag when there would be a question and there was a live performer doing it and they were doing okay but it felt like there was a disconnect between the live performer kind of is like this co-host yeah chucky and it was a little short it didn't feel like if you've ever seen i've never seen a bad performer do the donkey character outside in the waffle cart every time they have somebody doing there they have like a really quick improv person and they are just bantering back and forth with people and i'm almost always impressed i was like i'm always laughing they always have funny stuff to

say their interactions with kids are always funny and then this just felt like whatever the way they were doing it wasn't so smooth i hope it was just like mechanical, like there was just a little delay or something. So it was like something where we were really hyped to do it and then it just felt like it didn't quite get going. Yeah. It's a good idea. It's a great idea. I think we should bring it back

and maybe just kind of fine tune it. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what, they'd have to explain technically how they're doing it for me to be able to get into the hood and fix it for them. Well, Charles Lee Ray is a serial killer, and so he his soul was put into a doll.

This is how they did it. What? Huge performance. Oh, okay. Got it. Okay, I think I can fix this now. I think it's largely like the same batch or the same questions every time. This was where last year they did the preview

of Blumhouse movies and then the presenter gets killed and Megan comes out. It is surprising to me they haven't done a full Megan house. Yeah, I would love a Megan house. Because it's such a fun movie. Yeah.

And I guess maybe there just is not enough big scenes. No, I'm sure they could do. You could do a whole Megan. And I think it's like an enduring character. I really think Megan's going to be around. I think so too. It's the prep it takes.

I feel like they have to plan it so early. And then it's like anything in Hollywood now where it's like nobody will get behind anything unless it's a huge IP. So by the time they know that it's popular enough, they've already planned something else. Uh-huh. Maybe for the Megan sequel we'll get Megan. I was going to say maybe for the second one. That would be smart. She's in the mix, which makes me think it'll happen.

Yeah. Megan's great. It was just so, I feel like the first year she showed up at Horror Nights, people were so excited for the wandering bands of dancing Megans in Florida. Yeah, it was just Florida. I wish it was here. I bet there's a good chance she'll be in a house. She's on the Terra Tram.

Would love it. What's up? Yeah, she's on the Terra Tram. Oh, that'd be good. Yeah, that would be fun. I think she's got to become, start jumping into people's phones and smart homes. I think she's going to jump into a bunch of stuff.

In a sequel? In a sequel, is my guess. And like the open-ended nature of the ending of the first one, it's like, oh, it seems like they're setting stuff up. Right. Well, we'll see. Yeah. Sure.

But I don't know, it's always fun going to horror. Did you have any final thoughts yeah anything you got um not on chucky on horror nights um i love the color in the dead exposure that was my favorite one of the night yeah oh yeah i think the color those those barrels that are neon guiji green were perfect um yeah they truly like they they were beautiful and startling and I loved them. It feels like, even just sort of, I don't know, color scheme-wise, something you don't

see in the mazes a lot. It really stands out because of that. It was bright white with, honestly, if anybody's seen The Substance, it looks like The Substance. I would love to go back and pretend it's the factory where they make The Substance that you don't see in the movie The movie the substance kind of tie it to that ip in your brain yeah but like i thought it was one of the strongest mazes it felt like a contained story

it was like oh yeah and it was also like to me knots will always be my favorite style of maze and this one felt like it could be a knots maze yes which is a huge compliment yeah no i agree um and there were some cool we were talking about i think all of us when we went through it liked these wrapped like uh bodies they had in like these like they were like women in the fetal position in like ziploc bags animal i mean it was like really gross like there was like dissected like bisected animals and stuff and there was one scene that we missed but i feel like you sent me a video of this mike maybe or it was of like there was a humans being operated on by a big gorilla right yeah the gorilla i saw john murdy talk about this that there's it's a very specific performer who can do the gorilla so it's not always And surgery at the same time. Yeah, it was really real surgery.

Multi-talented. It's like a Coco type. Yeah, yeah. For real. We need a Coco type. Not Coco. Coco's dead or too old? I think Coco's deceased. Oh, dead a couple years ago

because that's when it all came out that Coco was bullshit. Oh, well... And that Coco wasn't actually talking. Well, we need a Coco type. We need a Coco type. We need to vote right about that at California Adventure.

But yeah, so I guess that performer, if they're not there or they're on break, you don't get to see this gorilla. We had like a zombie guy doing it though and they looked cool. Yeah. That's a good point about that because there was like,

you know those bags that you can use to pack where like it takes all the air out of it? Compression bags. That's what the woman, the dead corpses look like. And I am always impressed now after going through so many of these if you can show me an image that haunts me. And that haunted me.

Yeah, it's good. It was a good image. And just neon green is always a color I'm gonna like. Fun. And so that against stark white, fun. It was also zombies that didn't look like other zombies. It felt more creative. They were kind of like like. Fun. And so that, again, stark white, fun. It was also zombies that like didn't look like other zombies. It felt more creative.

They were kind of like purple. Yeah. I don't know. The color was good. Yeah, it was good. I wonder like mazes like that because Universal turns

their mazes over every year and then Knott's, there's two new mazes every year basically. So I think Knott's is, we were talking about this recently i think it's on a future episode that like then knots can do a little more because the things are going to stay there yeah they kind of fine-tune them right exactly i don't fully

understand what this future episode stuff is but i love it as like a caveat because then you can talk about it later well you got into time travel recently so maybe you know this is what's happening i assume that's what it's related to yeah i mean we it's it's a more of just a scheduling yeah it's more logistical than anything build it into the lore yeah but i mean look while scott is going we could get into the actual details of the scheduling on the show which might be interesting uh i don't know second gate second gate perhaps um just one more be interesting. I don't know. Second gate. Second gate, perhaps. Just one more thing, just because I don't want to miss the Monstros 2, which was a delight. I have nothing to say about it, but I thought it was a really fun maze, like being in a

dusty old crypt kind of thing, and there were like mariachi calavera kind of freaky guys, and they were fun. Yes. More original Universal. of era kind of freaky guys and they were fun yes more original universal honestly like i i think all around i'm kind of tired by ip i'll be honest you're typey i'm typey it would be i wish it was was a lot more just every place was a lot more original and then like one or two big ip mazes sure yes um that felt yeah special and give us like the old universal ip which of course nobody that's not going to sell tickets but like i don't know give me like a jaws

maze well that's that yes that would be great i wonder i guess that is a horror movie technically but i wonder if you could do something at the the spring event for jaws or something yeah because they're doing back to the future and that's i'm very curious about what that looks like because like they have obviously have the exter're doing Back to the Future. And I'm very curious about what that looks like. Because they obviously have the exteriors from Back to the Future on the back lot. So I don't know if you do a little show there or you do a maze or something. Because we did the Back to the Future escape room

in Orlando. Yeah. Which was the tiniest quarters possible going into a bunch of sets that were taking place right behind the action of the movie. How interesting. We're backstage at the Enchanted Under the Sea dance with the guitars and stuff.

Yeah. Trying to hook up the correct XLR cables to play the instruments in the right order. Yes. But the sets look great. We were at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance. Is that what it's called? Plugging in XLR cables to make sure they write instruments played. And doing a bad job of everything.

We actually, I think, succeeded at that one. That one we did succeed at. We did not succeed at the clock tower. So, real quick, they have lloyd but only his voice and he's like he's like trapped in a thing at the start when you're watching the intro video anybody's and he sounds very old and then he's the one directing you into different rooms and then many many times after like oh we must go biff is on his way you must find a way out of the barn or whatever and then like he tries to get you going again. He tries, you really

gotta get out of here. And then he goes, oh, I figured out a way to get you out. Don't worry. And then the door opens and we're like, well. Good enough. Let's keep moving. We actually never needed you here in the first place, I guess. Thank you for your money. And he like, yeah, he had to get us

out of there a couple times. Doc just was like, yeah, never mind to get us out of there a couple times. Doc just was like, yeah, never mind. You guys just keep walking. So, yeah, they could do something like that. But, yeah, I don't know. Horror night's always a fun time. Thank you to Universal for sending us, which I want to transition real quick into this.

And I don't want to make a huge thing out of it, but Knott's Berry farm is ghosting podcast the ride oh no knotsberry farm we've been very lucky we got invited to knotsberry farm events they've completely ghosted us i don't know what we did i feel very i'm like it's it's like i uh i'm like hurt like they're breaking up with us but they ghosted us which is what you know the modern kids i understand you've only you've only positively talked about a knots barrier scary right that's what i'm saying so i'm just like oh i'm like oh my gosh is it something we said about walter knots conservatism or the freedom center our situation ship ghosted us yeah ghost town do you yeah so

um so i yes because i sent look when i'm giving advice to someone that's maybe like trying to court a lady or a gentleman either way generally speaking you say like you send one message if it's not reciprocated i'll allow one extra innocuous message just to make sure that okay maybe they didn't see the first one or maybe it was a crazy day yeah they probably did but okay send a one cent to not this is my general rule again i haven't had to employ this in many years um but this is if i'm giving advice to somebody uh i didn't follow my advice this time and i sent three different emails and not mean emails i was just like hey no problem if like we can't come by to the event.

I go, but we love coming to the event. We always talk about it or whatever. Nothing. How odd. I really feel like I haven't been broken up with in many, many, many, many years, but this was like I was hurt by the corporation, the Knott's Berry Farm Corporation.

So I just, full disclosure, I went to Knott's berry farm as a civilian you know that's fine i am i'm a normal guy yeah blue collar guy so that's fine it's just knots berry farm is ghosting us and i don't know why i feel like maybe we did something do you think it has anything to do with the six flags merger i think it might have something to do with that being said we got invited to six flags and not knots. It is interesting. There's a famous phrase that the Shemp of Podcast the Ride said about Six Flags

and we still continue to be invited to their events. I don't know. It's interesting. I don't know what happened. Maybe something got lost in a shuffle or something. Anything is possible. You got moved to spam accidentally and they don't know? We got moved to spam. Anything is possible. You got moved to spam accidentally and they don't know? We got moved to spam.

Anything is possible. I love Knott's. I love Knott's too. I think they're making a great choice whatever they're doing. So you support Walter Cordelia and Cedar Fair. Oh yeah. Yeah.

So yes, I'm being ghosted during the Halloween season by Knott's Scary Farm. And it's interesting. Yeah. I mean, you didn't expect it. And you still went to Knott's. You still went. I still went to Knott's.

Because how could you not? Because it's so fun. How could you not? Hey. How could you not? Get this guy on TikTok eating cheese stuff. Wait, that's not too hot. It started a lot. It's like almost licking your hand. You were not doing a cheese pole agony well because it was just

immediately too hot this is what the people want they want to see the real reaction they want to see more people in agony that might be true um well well uh uh ghosting aside what did you feel about knots what did what did you have a favorite maze did you have a favorite moment uh well yeah i like look look nuts i love nuts and uh i like i want to go back i i don't think i'll get to go back this season this season but i would like to um my favorite thing and this is not one of the mazes, but my favorite thing to do every year is go on Timber Mountain. Yes. Because of the Halloween overlay. We've talked about that many times.

Because of the Calico Coffin Creepers, the band at the end playing some sort of Halloween song that I want on Spotify or Apple Music. Same. They don't have it. They don't have a CD of in-park music because we've asked. And it's just fun. The bear that says trick-or-treat

as you're going down. There's just a big bear that doesn't... Marissa would never remember because she refuses to go on this ride. I go on it every three years. I'd say give it... Is it because of the water or because of... Yeah, the water.

And I know it doesn't splash you that much, but anytime I go on, I will get wet. If you go in the back, usually, that's the safest. Wherever I go, the water follows. I'm like a divining rod. I'd say last time you didn't get wet. No, I don't think I got wet last time.

But it's hard to convince you. And I'd say you had a bad experience on our last time on Splash Mountain. We were like, okay, what's going on last time? And it was dead of winter. I got like a soggy shoe. And you were soaked top to bottom, furiously marching around Disneyland looking for the cheapest shirt to buy that was going to keep you warm. I got a Mickey sweatshirt.

$40. She's still mad. No, it was like $80. No, it was $60. Yeah, it was like $60. And then I got like socks that sucked. Were there a character? Definitely.

They were yellow, so I want to say they're poo, but I don't think they were poo. Really? No. Who was that? Were there a character? Definitely. They were yellow, so I want to say they're poo, but I don't think they were poo. Really? No. Who could they have been? I don't know. Meet the Robinsons.

Maybe, yeah. Meet the Robis socks. But I agree. Halloween Hootenanny, incredible. So like even, yeah, I love all the mazes,

but yeah, for some reason, I just have to do that Every year It's sweet It's really It's really nice They used to They don't have a UFO

Like they usually have A big practical UFO That's crashed They haven't had that The last two years They had the aliens But I didn't see the UFO There's something like

Broken about the UFO I feel like But they gotta bring it back But yeah that The new mazes Are really good Widows and Eight Fingers Nine, the Boogeyman. There's a Boogeyman maze.

Yeah, I mean, most of the things I would say are just like praising it. And having the mazes, a lot of the mazes be the same year to year, at first made me be like, ah, that kind of like new stuff, blah, blah, blah. But actually, now I feel the reverse. Now I kind of go, I didn't love Grimoire.

I'm sure I said it on the show a year or two ago when it opened. And now I'm like, oh, Grimoire is good. I'm a big Grimoire guy now. I wasn't a big Grimoire guy before. You love being in a foxhole.

I love being in a foxhole. I love... The creepy kitchen part of Grimoire Yeah, the kitchen part is really good. And I would say more often than not they're really good actors in that part yes and there's like it's because it opens on like a

stranger things kind of thing with kids you go through a tent to go back in time um and there's like a black and white kitchen and all that stuff and there's a good is that the one where they're they're using the laser effects to make you go like there's like a there's like lasers that you walk through that makes you feel like you're going through like a portal or something. Yeah. The story is like, there's like a Necronomicon style book

or like a book of all evil. And so like, there are these kids that have opened it up in the present and then all the evil is unleashed and you're kind of, it seems like going from like, each moment in time,

the grimoire has existed and caused problems. Yeah. And then there's kind of a zombie element because there's a lot of Campbell's soup cans that say brains. That is true. Maybe it's cannibals? I don't know.

I'm not sure what it is either. The ending is a little mysterious too because you end up back in like the woods and there's not a big like climax to it. Yeah. And then like a lot of the jump scares on that are just like kids bursting out of bushes going, yeah, hell, hey, what, what? Yeah. They just like kids bursting out of bushes going yeah they're like get out of here and we're like i'm trying and then if you get stuck sometimes in those situations like you get stuck in the line or there's people ahead of you

and you're just kind of like the performer is being like get out of here and then there's like an awkward pause and you're like yeah because a lot of that i i've seen walkthroughs of this. Some of that dialogue is prerecorded. Yeah, it depends. And they're acting a lot like I- The first chunk is for sure prerecorded. The campfire, right, where they're reading from the book. That always makes me laugh when I feel like it's different in Waterworld. They're so far away, kind of don't notice it's all pre-recorded yeah mostly pre-recorded

but when it's like 10 feet in front of you and someone's like basically miming along to dialogue yeah very funny it was funny we were right up on like like watching them mime which is really funny yeah yeah i would say the universal mazes have a lot of that too i think maybe more than not more than not but they definitely have it in bloodline and i saw a real lackluster vampire doing his oh yeah and so like the energy discordance of like like this guy kind of barely mumbling it out with this like him being like i'm tired yeah yeah i get it i get. I was trying to figure out if the Dan Aykroyd lookalikes were pre-recorded, the two Ghostbusters. I don't even know if I noticed. Oh, it was in the first The Rays of Cult Books opening.

Yeah. I was so distracted by the character Podcast. Oh, yeah. Is Podcast in? Yes. Yeah. Wow. He's a little bit of a scare, I'd say.

He's similar to the Grimoire kids where it's like, hurry, get out of the bookstore. I forgot about podcasts. There's a person that had to be cast as the Horror Nights podcast. Yeah. Wow. It's a character in these movies. I assume.

You've seen the recent Ghostbusters films. There's a character named Podcast. There's a child named Podcast. Yeah, he's in a little trucker hat. Something like that. Grimoire waiting in line. Okay, I guess I'll say this now. Grimoire waiting in line okay i guess i'll say this now grimoire

waiting in line is where i think my teen and i and i don't know that it was a teen for sure but i think that you get a little kiss no but is that really inappropriate sorry i'm sorry do you uh have a confession yeah you saying i'm sorry makes it seem like that mike actually did kiss a teen. I'm sorry, Mike. You didn't want to talk about your little kiss. Well, we talked about off-mic. Definitely talked about off-mic beforehand. I was not talking about kissing a teen.

There are two kinds of teen you are allowed to kiss, okay? 18 and 19. And 20 teen and 21 teen. Somebody clip Jason's audio of that And then use it whenever you want Talking about football okay

My Okay so it wasn't a kiss But I'm pretty sure a teen Like kind of what Jason Might call cookied my side Wow A cookie in the wild What's a cookie?

It's when you softly touch someone's elbow. Jason used to do this when we did improv. And he would come up to us, and you might think this is inappropriate, but we were all on an improv team together, and we never signed a contract that we consented to this, but I think we did consent. We playfully consented to it, I think. How is this coming up to me? He's the one who's kissing me. Because you're the cookie king.

You didn't kiss a teen. I didn't kiss a teen, but you cookied us when we were in our 20s. We were just having a ball. We were having fun. It was a different time. Jason would come over and touch your elbow and go, hell, I hate cookie, or something. And it was a really unnerving thing.

Now, the person who did this, I'm just standing in line and somebody reaches through the wall and grabs like a chunk of my skin through the wall and then just like either runs away or like I tried to like see what was happening, but I was like,

maybe they were right about the teens. The are out of control they're cooking people's sides through the through the wall right yes sorry are you in are you in the queue are you in the queue you're in the queue this is like one of the only themed queues in in not all i feel like not like you go indoors you have to like be pulsed through because they have kind of an opening scene for this one right yes so I was I was like oh and it felt it was it was very invasive I did not I mean I was fine but like that was weird it's unnerving because then half of my brain like immediately was like oh wow this maze got a lot more intense I guess and then like no no, that was not.

Like I was already in like the zone of like, okay, well, stuff's going to pop up. And I was like, wait a minute. That could be cookied now. Yeah. I guess that's not really taking it to the edge this year. This is 17th door territory. Knott's is known for its cookie.

Chicken dinner? It's known for its chicken dinner, but now it's known for its cookies. Huell Hauser was the one who announced that Wow I got cookied at Knott's Berry Farm I do have a number of bakery outlets So I think it's so They do I had a cookie I bought three different cookies on the way

Oh wow I should have gotten a cookie Yeah if you go there early enough Maybe they were trying to put a cookie on your, if you go there early enough. I mean, I got cookie, but I didn't get a cookie. Maybe they were trying to put a cookie on your elbow so you could have one for later. Like a shish kebab cookie. I remember it was Jason, maybe. Jason secretly went to Knott's that same night. I went to Knott's.

And put his hand through the slats. I put my hand through the slats. Did Knott's say hello? No. Well, that's funnier than that. Wait until now. Wait until now. Spend $120 to get in there.

That's very cheap. Yeah. $60. I was including the front of the line pass. Oh, okay. Fair enough. And I did not do that. I waited like a normal person.

You can get, if you go on like a not Friday or Saturday, the lines are pretty decent. Usually okay. You could even have like zero to five minute lines all night. That's what happened to me. Yeah. And my new friends. Wait, who are lines all night. That's what happened to me. Yeah. And my new friends. Wait, who are these friends? Corey and David.

I hope they're fine with me saying their names, but they're nice people. Scott just did their podcast a couple months ago. And they listened to the show podcast, The Ride. So literally I was scared walking through Ghost Town. I got scared a couple times by the scare like actors with the big like milk cartons yeah yeah yeah with like coins or something in there and that is loud and scary and i remember just going oh my god is this gonna be bad am i have i reverted to being like scared like i was seven years ago or whatever and then i ran into cory and david who were so nice uh uh

and then they bought me a drink and then they were like well we're going to do mazes i'm like hey yeah all right like and we went to like a bunch of mazes together we went to uh the origin maze calico thank you can't remember anything today um and yeah so they so they they prevented i think me from being a little scaredy cat the whole night. Wow. But they witnessed this cookying. Oh, okay. So they can confirm the cook.

That's good. Because I feel like- Because all you guys didn't believe me. Well, yeah. If we can get them on the pod to confirm it. Because we don't believe you. Yeah. Okay.

Fair enough. That's fair enough. I mean- All this gaslighting. It's going crazy. Yeah, you know what I mean, man? That is the real scare this year. It's just being gaslit.

Well, I'm glad the brotherhood of podcasters had your back. Yes, that is what happened. Let me ask, to you and to you both, did any of you go to the Yours Cruelly Elvira experience? We haven't been able to go. I did. Okay. This is

in the Walter Nant Theater, which is a very funny pairing. It's a great thing. Usually they have good shows in there. Yes, and she used to perform. We used to see it when we first went. She only retired, what, five years ago? 2017. What does that mean? That means it's more.

That would be six years ago. Seven. Oh. Seven. Is that what? Oh, seven, yes. So right now they have basically, Cassandra Peterson, Elvira, is there three nights this year. She's already been there once.

I don't know if she's been there twice. No, it's the 19th, or like the 18th and the 20th, I think. We will be going for one of the nights she's there. And is she just signing? She's not doing a show. She's doing a Q&A after the show, and then she is doing an autograph signing

where I think you have to pay for autographs. Yeah, and I think they're shutting down the little spooky... The Legacy Store. Yeah, by Waxworks. Uh-huh. So what they've done, basically, is the theater is open as this little museum, basically. So it's just a walkthrough.

I didn't realize. I thought it was a little bit of a video retrospect. I thought it was a show. That's what I thought, too. And I went up to the theater and I said, when are the shows? And they said, it's not a show. You just walk through it. So you can go anytime?

Anytime you want. That's blowing my mind because we went a few nights ago and we saw that it was only at seven. So I was like, oh, we missed it because we got there after seven. That just saw that it was only at seven so i was like oh we missed it because we got there after seven that just means it opens at seven oh my god they shouldn't list it as shows they should yes they should have separate museums tab on the nots app too scary uh yes i thought so too and i thought it was oh you sit down and there's like a little 12 minute whatever best of or something but it is just that they make the theater and i have some photos

they make the theater like very elvira e and then you can look at these different like like cases full of her memorabilia different things she's products she's had over the years uh uh different i don't know standees and uh there's a bus, the singing bus of her head, like the Haunted Mansion. I'm excited. Fun. Yeah, that's going to be fun. And there's like a guitar.

And then they got this big car, I guess she used in the show, maybe. Cool. That's on stage, which looks like, it's not the Liberace Scott Dorsen car, like he would drive out when Liberace, but like it felt like that to me. And I don't know, there's photos of her and celebrities on the wall

you love it a real dollywood scenario yeah her and jack white in a picture uh and it's a nice little five to ten minute walk through this honestly you you're you're blowing my mind this is great you've educated us we have the season passes too elvira and barbara billingsley from leave it to beaver. Why not? This really is like the Dollywood Museum. Yeah. It's just Dolly and like Kermit the Frog, which what a dream. Yeah.

Now that I, just because I'm going through my role, I went on the Timber Mountain log ride and I totally forgot about this. I'm in line and sometimes things don't work the right way yeah and sometimes logs get stuck and stuck so much that this poor employee for i swear to god 90 seconds is kicking the log so aggressively to just try to get it moving and just kicking and kicking and kicking and i'm like it's not go. And then another log would come up from behind and bang. And I go, well, maybe that'll dislodge it. No. Still stuck.

She comes back. Kicking, kicking, kicking this log to try to get it going. And I was like, this is never going to. They're going to have to call someone else in. And then I think maybe two more logs banging into it finally got this log going. And I was like, that's so crazy. And then I was in the same like track for that part because there's it loads with two different waterways or whatever and then i got in the log

and we got stuck as well but only i think it took two kicks and then we were going but i was like oh man it would be funny if i got stuck on this all night if it didn't happen it would be good for the show but it wouldn't be good for my personal enjoyment like a live live episode from being stuck on the timber mountain log right that's true hootenanny yeah um so anyway uh but yes the elvira thing was fun and i almost wish there was a little more of a show but i thought it was going to be like a best of like because last year they had a 50th anniversary like all like broadway musical style like like kind of like telling the history of Not Scary Farm through like song, through like incredible dancing and singing. And it was kind of insane. And I was like, great, we're going to have like the best of Elvira this year.

Yes. Because we're showing little clips and you do get the sense that I cannot believe she did so many of these shows. Yeah. She did it for decades? I think she did it a very long time. I don't know exactly how long. Yeah, because she started out, what, in like the 80s doing it? I mean, it was like, there was a year you could go to Not Scary Farm and you could go see Elvira and the Crypt Keeper.

They had Tales from the Crypt licensed stuff. They had a Crypt Keeper show, kind of like the Chucky thing with a live animatronic, but I think it was longer. And they had a maze. And they had an Elvira-themed maze at one point. That's all the IP I'm interested in. Yeah.

Honestly, it's all on the Internet Archive, which is down right now. Oh, right. Oh, because of the DDoS attack, right? Yeah. Hopefully it's back up by the time people are listening to this. Oh, right. Oh, because of the DDoS attack, right? Yeah. Hopefully it's back up by the time people are listening to this. Hopefully, yeah. It seems like they didn't get a lot from what I heard. I heard they only got the Crypt Keeper stuff. No!

And Elvira from Not Scary Farm. Only those videos. That's it? Yeah. Will another, like, horror host rise? Like, Svengoolie, I guess, is a, like, of the living horror hosts i think we all have an affection for this type yeah of character but like sven ghouli and elvira right now current living horror hosts that are most popular but they're both in their 70s sven ghouli has recently

introduced new characters like three different like new characters for the show like seeding the throne i think so wow i don't know if they're fighting for supremacy at this point on the svengoolie show if you don't know uh but it's like the murdoch family yeah there's a succession going on for the different svengoolie characters to take over the show um which is different because if you don't know i'm talking about this again this is this scott would be out the door door. He would be so happy that we were talking about this. This is one of the big animatronics in the maze where he's scared of you guys talking about it.

Yeah, exactly. He's talking about Svengoolie, which these are- Look, we could go on and on about the MeTV programming schedule. Right, yes. Which maybe we will do an episode about that. I just wonder, are there more young horror hosts coming up the road? Maybe they're like on TikTok. What are we thinking, Jason?

Jason, have you seen any young horror hosts on TikTok? It's the blood pool. I don't know about TikTok, but Chelsea Rebecca's shadow, who was on the show very recently on YouTube, is very popular. But she's not like a Svengoolie type.- She's not like a Svengoolie type. No, she's not a Svengoolie type. What I'm saying is there's probably niche horror programming on all of these video apps. That's true.

I agree. But specifically, somebody who dresses up sort of as a character vampire adjacent or zombie adjacent that hosts some sort of show about old movies. Spooky things. You might have to take this throne. I would love to do it. If you want me to do it, I'll do it.

You want me to do it? Because I'll do it. Are you challenging me? Well, because if you don't do it, you're going to pimp me into doing it. Well, I got a lot of plans for you that don't involve horror hosts. I'm AJ, you're Big Justice, so I tell you what to do. Okay, well, at least I'm Big Justice.

Big Justice is the little boy. Is the child. I would watch this. I was recently talking to somebody about you in regards to you being an influencer. I was saying I would love you to be, because there's a little kid I follow on Instagram

named the Shirley Temple King. I don't know this person. And his thing is that he follows or he just goes and tastes Shirley Temples at different restaurants. And then he'll do

other things as well. I follow a lot of different types of food influence from the young to the old. But Shirley Temple King goes and tries new Shirley Temples. And I was like,

couldn't Jason do like an adult Shirley Temple King goes and tries new Shirley Temples and I was like couldn't Jason do like an adult Shirley Temple King he'd have to change the title yeah or the change the name of the Instagram channel but it feel that feels like you could do it and that's in your interest zone this would be maybe like kind of a fun reversal if like the kid is Shirley Temple King you could be Shirley Temple King jr oh that's pretty good I mean we'd have to like mlk kind of action yeah that feels appropriate that feels right well yeah you're using his name but related to shirley temples yeah yeah i think if i if we get it enough to be parody i can probably get away with it i have a grenadine uh speaking of parody law did you see the hanging which this year of course is i have watched the

hanging on youtube the error store yes it's on our to-do list yeah we have not seen it yet we're we're excited to see it well uh so this is not is essentially bill and ted Topical Joke Fest. I have a clip here. Brett Davis, friend of the show, our guest on the confrontation episode ages ago, posted this, and it might be a good little teaser for you guys to pump you up for this. To get pumped up, yeah. Release the hounds!

This episode is called Go Talking! That's bluey blue that's the bluey theme playing this is like a highlight reel should go to brett davis's Instagram. We'll post something. Donkey is there. Donkey is there. Now that is a surprise.

Crong. My mom AGM means something completely different. Wow. I gotta get

back to my Fortnite match. You know what I can say real quick before we get into this? Is that we've been recording so out of order that you... Recently, there's an episode where Jason says something about the Hot To Go dance. Yeah. Which is Chapel Roan's song. I know the song, but I don't know what he's talking about.

And the episode came out so far after we had recorded it that I sound completely out of it. And I thought about, I'm the editor of this show, I thought about editing it out just to save face. So you did not look like a fool. Right, but I left it in, so I sound like a fool. But that, I wanted to, weeks, months after this was a popular thing, I know what it is. And when that episode came out, I wanted to, weeks, months after this was a popular thing, I know what it is.

And when that episode came out, I knew what it was. But it sounded like I was totally, completely out of it. Anyway, that being said, this show is the, like, successor to the Bill and Ted show where it skewers the pop culture of the day. No holds barred. No holds barred. Scott free. Scott free. and uh no holds bar no holds bar scott free scott free are you too excited by all of that that you got to say um you got louie you got the trump dog clip deadpool wolverine i'm excited i think they're always um very committed and there's always stunts the stunts are really fun.

I'd say like it feels like Wild Wild Wild West stunt show kind of style Right. stunts with like the kind of

kind of like just big broad takes on pop culture. Pop culture jokes and do all the jokes work for me? No they do not. But do I like seeing

this kind of show? Yes I do. And I think some of the jokes, I think the commitment of the actors is really good. That's what I mean. It's very committed. You know, I think it's easy to make fun of this show as like armchair comedians.

Sure. Armchair experts with Dax Shepard. Right, right. I don't know what I would, I guess like, you know, it feels like easy to like. Well, snooty comedy people, you might look down at like something

you think is too broad or whatever. You don't think it's intellectual or. But I think they're trying to, it's supposed to be broad. And so I think they're doing a good job. And I think some of the jokes are definitely, there's like, it's like, I wouldn't make that joke.

But. Knott's doesn't quite have the restrictions joke wise as some other places. That being said, Deadpool got to make some jokes at Disneyland that I didn't think he could make this year. So he also, I guess, can get away with stuff. But in general, yeah. In general, like sometimes these shows will surprise you. I don't, I forget if how inappropriate the show is or cancelable the show is this year. I think it used to be maybe more. I think it used to be maybe more.

I think it used to be more for sure. It's neutered. Cancel culture. Cancel culture came in and got rid of the good stuff from the hanging. That's what this episode is about. We finally got there.

But yeah, no, I am less snooty, I think, in my old age. Same, I think I got snooty when I was younger. I'm around on this more. I mean, I was starting when the genie at the California Adventure Aladdin show, that's maybe when it started with me, where I was like,

this is a thing where you think it's bad, but maybe you just like it. I think when it went away, I was like, oh, I do miss whatever this is. Yeah. You know, like this fills a spot. And I'm not looking for jokes that make people feel bad or punch down

punch down but I think for the most part it's just like goofy broad sort of like slapstick yeah sure and then yeah eating the dogs eating the cats that's just I mean that's good good old fun I'm excited that that's in there because that's going to be weird however it rolls well also that knots audience

is a barometer of everybody on the political spectrum i think maybe you go to some theme parks and it feels like it skews more in one direction this feels like anybody could be cheering for anybody California yes i mean the theme but like yeah it's a very good point um i don't know maybe they should do more like polling at the theme parks maybe they should do some political polling and really can get to the heart of what people are looking for in this country i think we've all been trying to figure out the political makeup of orange county california yes i think it's gone bluer though lately i think in the last so many years and the. And Orange County in Orlando is also blue as well. Sure. So how about that? The theme

parks are spreading liberalism. That's what I think. And the hanging is at the forefront. Yes. That's right. The hanging is doing all the hard work. Hanging's getting out the vote. That's right. So yeah, I saw a little of the hanging, but then I watched the YouTube and yeah, I mean that's

I do think every like big theme park should have a show like this to some degree it doesn't have to be this exact show but there's something about it and it is a crowd pleaser it is people yeah people line up like or gather around we were part of a parody version of one of these shows years ago. Brad Evans. Yes. Oh, yeah. Brad and Nick did like a Bill and Ted's live UCB show. And Joe Quazala. Joe Quazala. And Brad and Nick did an episode of Podcast the Right about Bill and Ted.

There you go. Many, many years ago at this point. Yes. This was 200 years ago. The vibes of Knott's in general are just, especially at Scary Farm, are just so good. Unbeatable. They're unbeatable.

It's truly tops for me. The amount of fog pouring in. So much fog. Yes. And so moody because they already have Wild West. So Wild West plus little freaks roaming around in the ghost town. And the best little freaks. I think the sliders are really good. These are the scare actors that are gonna get you.

Yeah. They're gonna make people scream. And they're funny, because they also move fast and slow sometimes. They'll trick your brain. Oh yeah, there's a little guy, the mayor. So when we went, he's little, he kind of hunches over. He has a big top hat.

His name is Mayor Kane, we learned, because we spoke with him. We were like, last year, you really scared one of our friends. And he just walked really slowly for a while and then just on a straightaway ran full speed and slid down right in front of somebody. This is incredible.

Love him. You deserve to be the mayor. Yeah. I maybe saw him. I'm trying to remember. He's memorable. That's the fun thing about Knott's is I feel like they have a cast of characters that come back.

Like you will see the same Ghost Town people. They all almost like Ghost Town alive. They have their own sort of backstories. And there's only one individual playing them. It's not like everybody plays the mayor. It's like this guy's persona. When he's in Kakanen. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think Universal, I think you're right that that like wrestler area was really cool but i think what universal is like kind of lost lately is like it has less scare zone kind of scares it's it feels like you're kind of like wading through universal to like just get to the next maze area there's not a lot of like people jumping out of you whereas at knots it's all it's like i think scarier walking between things yeah yeah absolutely because that's when i walked in and ghost town there was just what because if you get the right like crowd flow situation and you're in ghost town either coming or going it doesn't matter uh then they shoot the fog up that completely envelops everything through it

you cannot see through it and if it's only you and a few people walking through it the mood is legit scary it's cinematic it is cinematic it's really cinematic and you walk through there and you do not know what's on the other side of the fog is there are there four people there is it empty you do not know and like that's an i guess in addition to the mannequin rooms that does get me in that specific area of knots and they pair up they'll like team up to get you and like almost have funny bits afterwards like somebody jump scared us and then there was another That does get me in that specific area of knots. And they pair up. They'll like team up to get you. They did. Almost have funny bits afterwards. Like somebody jump scared us.

And then there was another guy who was like, ha ha ha ha. Like leaning off like a cowboy. He was like, they got you. And then he like did a scare. And there was a woman shouting at me to do things. And then she goes,

sit down, sit down now. And I go, okay. Was this after you gave her a kiss it was yeah well she first said give me a kiss i kissed her she was shocked she seemed surprised but she rolled with it uh no she she said sit down and i was like walking and i was like i guess i'll play along i sat down or if she goes i'm looking for a tall man to do what I want. And I go, that's funny or whatever.

Let me cookie you. She kept like, I forget what she said the next dude. And I was like, I got to go. Like whatever the second thing was, it wasn't weirder. It was just like, oh, and sit there and do something else. And I was like, I got to go. And she's like, I want blah, blah, blah. And I started shouting at me as I left.

And then a different performer came with and she started explaining what had just happened. And I go, that's fun. That's a fun little thing that they're doing. Yeah, it feels like everybody is. And that was later, too. So it feels like they're still locked in. They're in character.

There's a pie lady this year, which I thought was really fun. She's like a creepy. It feels like it's leaning into the not stuff. Where she's holding a pie and has a human skin face. Oh, I didn't see that yeah she'll like pull and put the face over her that's fun yeah that's really cool um jason does that offend you as a pie lover no i i saw a video clip with the pie lady and i'm like at least they're embracing their pie based tradition yeah i think so i think it's sweet yeah yeah yeah it pie-based tradition. Oh, yeah. Yeah, honestly, I like that. Yeah. Yeah, it feels like

everybody has a lot of room to make, like, characters in just, like, the scare zones. There was, like, a big, did you see there was, like, a big hairdo clown lady

who kind of talked like, yeah, like an old, like, diner waitress or something, like, chewing gum and stuff. Yes. But she was also an evil clown.

The clowns this year, I'd say, they made some tweaks because that's, like, the hardest scare zone. It's, like, kind of by all the roller coasters. And an evil clown. The clowns this year, I'd say they made some tweaks because that's like the hardest scare zone. It's like kind of by all the roller coasters. And the most lit.

Yeah. And you mean lit. Lit. But it's like really bright so it's kind of hard to scare you and I feel like they were like,

let's, we'll have different styles of clowns like gremlins almost. There's like roller skating clown, drag clown, baseball clown. I mean,

truly having somebody on roller skates is insane. Yeah. Yes. A character on roller skates. Did you have, I really, especially this year, I was like, I think I would want to be in Old West Town, I think, but clown is a close second. Yeah. Like, as far as what kind of character you would want to do. I think Ghost Town.

Wait, what would your characters be? If you could be like a creepy Ghost Town character, what would your backstory be? Oh, probably Old Prospector. Yeah. Probably like, I'd love to be like the can man. What? Like the shaking cans you were talking about,

full of change or bolts and nuts. Cheese man, the cheese man? The cheese is so old that it hurtles. I've got to hurt my, so yeah, well, maybe if I'm all burned

from all the different, trying to eat various cheeses, but if I just had lots of cans and I was like making a clatter if I came out or I'm like trying to sell cans to others. Your name could be

making a clatter. Yeah. The can, yeah. So I think the can man, the old prospector, didn't find any gold, so I'm selling these cans. Everyone's so fond of them. It's just you shaking a can at people. Yeah.

Want to buy a can? Maybe I put one down and I say, all right, all right, I'll stop, and then I pull out another can. That's fun. You have, like, a fake out. I just have, like, unlimited cans. Well, Jason's the can man.

Too old for sliding, but you're never too old for cans. Some say you age into cans. That's what I say. All I would want to do is, in Ghost Town, I would want to have like the Pat Buttram from Green Acres voice. Well, this guy. When like a high-pitched Southern voice. And I guess some sort of government.

Is that the voice of the gopher, what they based it on? I don't think he's the voice of the gopher. He's in Robin Hood, the Disney Robin Hood. Okay. And he's this voice. Okay. It's a kind of quiver and it's high up here. He's in Robin Hood, the Disney Robin Hood. Oh, okay. And he's this voice. Okay, now I know who you're talking about. And it's a kind of quiver and it's high up here. So I guess like the town coward is who I'd like to play maybe.

So we already have a duo act. That's fun. You're trying to haggle for a good can price and I'm not budging. I also think like being a coward is very funny if you're intent to scare you know what I mean and so I don't I feel like there's a lot of you can scream in fear and that scream

scares other people like hide behind people in like a quick way I got overcharged for cans the can man get my money back yeah we could do yeah all sorts of things I mean it sounds like a lot of work to do this too but i'd love to do it for an hour yes i think it'd be so fun for an hour or two i'd love to do it for an hour sitting not moving uh-huh i mean that's that limits you it does i wonder how fun it would be to scare people though

because i don't it immediately it doesn't feel good but it might be fun i think you have to have the right personality you have to be in the right mood a thing that really set the precedent is when i went in for for scary farm a scare actor scared a group of like 10 like 12 year olds and the shriek they let out. And I was like, I guess that's fun. I guess that would be fun if you were doing the scare. They all seem to like that. But I don't know once I was doing it if I would find it so fun.

I think I'd be okay doing it in that scenario. I think there's some people who like to scare people just out in the world. Or like, they're like, I'm somebody who likes to scare my friends. And it's like. No. We didn't sign up for this. Yeah, no. just out in the world or like they're like I'm somebody who likes to scare my friends and it's like no we didn't sign up for this yeah no we're not a bunch of

George Cloonies over here doing pranks it's not something I like yes like to do but I guess maybe it's fun because everybody there

to some degree I want a consensual scare sure and vice versa so perhaps that would be fun I don't know I mean if not would reopen the line

of communication with podcast the, then perhaps we could work something out where we do an hour here, an hour there. Oh, can man and coward. Can man and coward. Can man and coward. You know, we could be, you know, we'll sign up for a couple shifts, I guess. It's a

Scott Free Zone over here. That's Gopher and Don Knott's, I feel like you're doing, which I, look, I'm totally on board with that. It's right up his alley. Also right up my alley, because Don Knotts was a cowardly police officer. Yeah.

You said you didn't make it to Six Flags Fright Fest. No, we did not this year. Are you disappointed, because it is officially this year, Six Flags Fright Fest Extreme presented by Snickers? Snickers back again to sponsor the Six Flags Fright Fest Extreme presented by Snickers. Snickers back again to sponsor the Six Flags event. Yes, it is extreme, and I am jealous of how extreme it is. I wish we were going there. It just felt like we needed to do it bigger and better

since it's built up, Fright Fest 3. So hopefully they're extreme next year. I don't know. I watched some live streams from opening night, and they kept talking to people about like, yeah, I tried to do this maze and it was closed. And there was like capping vases that were closed. And the ones that were open

seemed to mostly be shipping containers and tarps. Well, there's a lot of IP this year at Six Flags, which I'm intrigued by. Like Stranger Things is at Six Flags which I am intrigued by like Stranger Things is at Six Flags Stranger Things, Trick or Treat yeah so I don't know if that's all TARP, yeah well Saw was last year Conjuring Universe

it's weird that like a lot of those I feel like almost more IP than Universal yeah maybe the same are some of those Warner Brothers horror movies and they pulled the same right around the same but are some of those warner brothers horror movies and they pulled that you know pulled the reins in a little that's what i imagine because i bet once once warner once warner's like they didn't want to like sell stuff to universal or like we're trying to overcharge warner doesn't own six flags anymore they just have the

affiliation with them yeah they have an affili, and also they seem to be constantly falling apart. Bugs Bunny's house is at Six Flags. So that's why Warner Brothers has that chummy relationship. I wish they'd bring back that Warner Brothers lot haunt that I didn't go to right before the pandemic. And they had an Arkham Asylum maze. You could go. I think they had, one thing I heard about was they took you through like a Friday the

13th thing and they had a scare actor underwater who jumped out of real water. Holy moly. Don't they have that in an overseas park? There's a scare in one of the mazes this year. Wow. But yeah, that's terrifying. And I guess they only did it for a week. They were like, we can't.

We can't. Somewhere overseas is doing this, is an underwater scare. Hopefully they have like those mermaids in Florida. No, they've killed 15 of the performers so far. No! The boys kept coming back because he's already dead. They kill 15 a night.

No! It just happens. It's all for the love of the scare. Well, now I believe it. Alright, good. you're being gaslit I think in that Warner Brothers one there was a feud Betty versus Joan maze yes

sad I missed that little shop of horrors props like they had like all the fun stuff you'd want and they only did it once I was like well I'll do it next year well just to date to just to date the time and the day we're doing this podcast last night there was a terrifying thing that happened on the warner brothers lot the tesla product unveiling they showed off new

cars and those walking robots i had warner brothers so they still do scary stuff sas love is back, baby. Yeah. And I was at the lot a couple weeks ago, and there were a bunch of Teslas parked. And somebody asked the guide and was like, hey, why are there all these Teslas here? And the guy was like, oh, what Teslas? And I didn't know what to make of that at the time. I didn't know that.

Gaslight. You had a real-life Cyberdyne unveiling there. That's right. It was. No one saw clips of this? No. No. Okay. Because there were robots marching out. That's horrific. I don't like one saw clips of this? No. Okay. Because there were like robots marching out. That's horrific.

I don't like that. Yeah, it's interesting. And that's a whole nother story. We need to release the Animaniacs to take care of those devils. Oh yeah, that would be good. Knott's thoughts? 100% the best. Go to every maze. They're delightful.

Not a bad one in the bunch. Mesmer is great. I think for me eight fingers nine edged out widows oh did it i thought i had the opposite but i like them both i think i was expecting to like widows which is old ladies plus spiders and i was surprised that revolutionary war era sleep paralysis demon was the one that i i think it was like one of them is like more detailed sets and like an immersive story like Eight Fingers Nine and Widows is kind of like

just like we're throwing these two things together and both are good but I weirdly liked Eight Fingers Nine a little more. I think the big, are you allowed to do

a spoiler on this? Yeah. We've been spoiling everything. We've been spoiling everything. We've been spoiling everything, yeah. There's a really cool big spider lady

at the end of Widows. Oh yes, incredible. incredible she was the fucking coolest i loved her okay she was very much like um captain eo angelica houston queen evil queen and borg queen in the sense that she was like she had a big like spider body behind her and almost i think she was suspended from like there was being puppeted. Like there were puppet legs around her. So that was crazy. Because like you start in the widows, you start in a nursing home and then like an old lady's house. And then pretty quickly you just like go underground. And I think at one point you go inside a big spider because the walls were pretty furry.

And I was like, I think we just went in its mouth or butt. Yeah. Like, or I don't know, a wound of some kind. But then you end up in like a spider temple. It keeps breaking it down and then you're in some sort of like religious temple that's dedicated to the spider queen, which is cool. The exterior of Widows is awesome.

It's like a creepy haunted house meets convalescent home. And it has a very funny joke that's like, I think it said like, whatever it is, like Shady Pines, but whatever the name is there, like for like wayward old women. Home for Wayward Widows. Wayward Widows is a very funny joke.

Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, really good. And yes, the performer that was like, please stay for dinner. And I was like, oh, I feel bad. I should stay. What if I did? I was like, okay, yeah, where's the chair? Should I sit here?

Are you Cordelia? Cordelia. Cordelia. Oh, they should have a Mr. and Mrs. Knotts maze. Yeah, you're being baked into like a chicken pot pie or something. Right. You should be going through the Republican National Convention in 1932 or something. This is not going to win us any favor. We're not going to get back in Knott's races with jokes like these.

Use your editor powers. Cut it out. No, I have to leave it in. We said it. We have to leave it in. But yeah, Knott's always highly recommended. I'm so jealous. I want to make a Knott's maze too.

I just feel like it's so good to do that specific type of maze. It's so good. We also went and saw in that Steve Martin theater, the little. Oh, Conjurers. They have a different magician every weekend this year. Oh, really? And yeah, so we got to see this woman who is a magician from Chicago. I looked her up afterwards because I was like, she is really funny.

She was really funny. She did a lot of crowd work and was very funny. And her magic was good too. And I feel like last year it was more of like a cheesy, kind of silly show with a little magic. And this one was like, oh, this is like Magic Castle, good magic. Yeah. Right.

Yeah, that's cool. I didn't even think about that. I should have. I want to go back. Maybe I can sneak down. Well, let us know we have season pass here. Yeah, we can go again. Those are not that expensive.

No, it's cheaper to get a season pass than to get front of line, I think. Yeah. For one night. Yeah. That's fun. Yeah. I also spent a lot of time by the mall, by the Portillo's. I didn't realize how big that mall is.

Kind of dead, but kind of interesting. And that's where the Gudetama Cafe is, which was closed. Bad-a-tama. I want to hear that noise Jason just made. Because you like Gudetama. I love Gudetama. The lazy egg. But I forgot

that it was behind the Walmart and the Trample. Have you ever walked back there? No. It is so expansive back there. You would never know. That's where John's incredible pizza is. There's so many arcade games. I don't think I've ever been to.

I don't even know where this is. Well, if we go back down, we're going to spend at least an hour in the mall attached to the Walmart and the Ross and the Burlington coat factory. Is it just on, what is Beach Boulevard like on the main Yeah I think so but then there's a movie theater back there there's so much stuff back there half of it's closed but still it's

like it was a fascinating walk and I was ashamed that I never walked back there in my many years of going to Buena Park California Wow Real quick I'll say what I did before Knott's Berry Farm, Scary Farm, is I decided to go to Pirate's Dinner Adventure. I've been.

Vampirates. I've never been. It was a legitimate scream from Marissa there. There is a holiday. Now, we've talked about this on the show. Many years ago at this point, we went for my birthday. Lindsay surprised me and had us all go to pirates dinner adventure and it was fun and it's like medieval times you get like a little chick half chicken and a salad which is you know uh what like the

least uh nutrient-rich uh vegetable you could possibly find slathered in good ranch dressing i'm not saying i didn't eat it and like it i'm just saying to picture the iceberg lettuce um and i said you know what before knots i should go see vampirates because i kept getting ads for vampirates i didn't know that they did an overlay like that they do halloween overlay too i think we're like santa gets kidnapped or something so they do do holiday overlays at the show and there's one in buena park and there's one in orlando florida i believe there's only two locations i don't know if you know it but i think so and i know they share performers and there's like people we've known that have been involved in these shows um and then i hope he doesn't mind but I was in a movie a couple years ago with a guy who was a jungle cruise skipper.

And he's in this pirate show. And I didn't want to bother him. I didn't want to say like, oh, I'm coming down to the show. So I was like, that's fine. I'll call and get tickets on my own. So I called. As I was heading down, I called. And you have to call like a line to get tickets and reservations which is so old

school which is so fun and it felt very much like either buying a car or when you talk to like the cable company and things seem negotiable because i'm like oh do you have tickets for the show in an hour and she's like oh no sorry we don't and i go oh but do things like open up like maybe right before the show and she goes well i can make an exception and i go all right well that wasn't hard to go and there was not a sold out show. So I'm like, okay, I wonder if they like stop selling tickets at a certain point. And then she's like, all right, well, do you have any coupon codes or anything? I go, well, I saw something about the mezzanine.

And she's like, oh, that's $46. I go, was there anything cheaper? She goes, oh, there's a $42 one. And I go, okay. So I'm like negotiating for a pirate's dinner adventure. And she goes, well, do you want to uh uh spend this is i guess these are tips to go uh uh do you want to get the parking pass now or later and i go that's fine i'll get it later she goes all right fine whatever and then of course when

you go there there's no parking attendant you're just parking the lot i go it's so funny there's all these little add-ons and you look on the website there's like add-ons like if you want bread before the meal if you want certain kinds of things. It's such a funny little kind of upcharge menu. So I went and I said, all right, I'm not going to bother this guy that I haven't seen him in a few years. I'm not going to bother him. And within about five minutes, he's doing a show.

He's walking down the aisle. He looks dead in my eye. He goes, hey, Mike. And I go, okay. And during the show, he shakes my hand and i go i love it all right that's great i thought i could like blend in but no i was a single man eating basically alone it's full of just families groups of people to cheer on their sections pirate and i am just sitting basically alone i am they kind of lumped me in with the green group for Jose the pirate. He was our green pirate.

How'd he do? He was great. All the pirates are great. They're all jacked. They're all like kind of stuntmen adjacent, pro wrestling adjacent. But they all like, they're swinging. You remember, so they basically like,

all that to say like they do a lot of the same stuff in the regular show. It was not as many horror characters like there's no werewolf in it or whatever it's basically the pirates are there they're dressed like pirates but they have teeth they have teeth so and then they play like harder rock songs that are adjacent to how like highway to hell is played now we've talked about this on the show a lot where there's all these songs that have kind of been absorbed into like Halloween,

even though they're not Halloween songs. Because really the only Halloween song is Monster Mash. That's true. But like, you know, Sweet Dreams Are Made of This. That's a Halloween song. Highway to Hell is a Halloween song. Crazy Train is a Halloween song.

You're like, it's not really. But that's the type of thing you'll see in the show. They license Monsters After Dark and they put it on their show. I wish. That's one of my favorite Halloween, that is a true Halloween song, the Guardians of the Galaxy overlay song.

So yeah, so it's not like, I was thinking, oh, there's going to be like big capes and some more monsters, but really it's just a pirate show with the Pirates ofangs which is which is good

i like it's so small and very funny you cannot see it also it's hard to tell it's not like uh in a big crowd yeah no but you don't want to block their vision they're doing like dangerous some you know puncture wounds or something yes and there's no like and and also part of me was like because the the the ads for this looked more intense than i was like oh i wonder what this this is interesting and then we get there and it's full of course kids and i went oh this isn't gonna be crazy what am i thinking because there's so many sections of it where like kids come on stage and there's a costume contest and and i'm like oh okay so most a lot of the show like for the first half or more was sort of the same show with like a narrative that i'm like i think this is different there's like a huntress

character and a queen that gets kidnapped and they're trying to go to some sort of like bermuda triangle type place where like the vampire king will rise or whatever and i'm like okay that's kind of the same as before then kids will come up on stage and you're like all right and then there's like a section where they all trampoline and stuff and there's like doing impressive trampoline stuff and i was like okay yeah yeah and i'm like it's kind of the same version though because you know i was trying to go there and i was like i wonder what crazy narrative this is and then the the last half and i don't say this in a negative way the last half of of the show or last quarter is uh violent and sad there are so many like stat like there's a lot of fighting at the end and i'm like

because i can't remember i'm like six years ago there's there's that much fighting in the old to some degree but there's a lot of like fighting and then they're killing the pirates so and then i'm like oh they're surely they're going to come back alive at the end they don't that's taking them like vampires they're like they have the big pirate swords okay there's no the budget for the stakes but they're like sorting each other and then there's like the the huntress and the the princess are like sisters and the huntress dies but then she kind of like, no, I'll just haunt this ocean forever or whatever. And there's like a little nice, like nice moment.

And then the show is over. I go, whoa, wow. And then I was like kind of blown away by it because I was like the juxtaposition and the whiplash of like the kids funds kids on stage. And now we're doing a game where like they hoist a flag or whatever. And then there's a whole section where an audience member comes out and throws a beanbag up until the up to the pirate like up on the elevated platform and then they swing from there to the pirate ship and put it in a bucket so it's like double dare

or some sort of like game show type thing and they have all those like fun silly like cheering games and that's the end is just dark it's just really dark and i was like very impressed with this choice to do this i would imagine it stems from kind of the elimination in medieval times so that like you're rooting for somebody so then we know who the decisive winner is but it's so much more gruesome to not uh to die rather than like not winning a sword joust or something right because they don't kill anybody at medieval times. I don't think they do. You just get knocked off your horse,

and then you lose because the person pins you down or something. Yeah, something like that. But the guy I know got killed, and he rolls into the thing, and I'm like, okay, I guess they'll all come back, or they're undead because they're vampires. But I'm like, they didn't really give me a happy ending here. And then Hell's Bells by ECDC plays.

And that's the end of it. That's the tone. That intro, do you know the then like Hell's Bells by ACDC plays. And that's like the end of it. That's like the tone that like that intro, do you know the intro to Hell's Bells? It's like, it's like a real, it's not high,

it's not a high energy fun ACDC song. It's got a real dark energy. Good for you because then you have kind of like a little bit of an intro vibe to Not Scary for me.

Yeah, yeah. But weird to end an entire show if that's the end of your night. I did have a little break by walking through a to Not Scary for you. Yeah, yeah. But weird to end an entire show if that's the end of your night. I did have a little break by walking through a dead mall, which is scary as well. That's scary too. But yes, I ate a piece of fine chicken

and I had a couple diet Pepsis. And then here's what I will say. When there's lights and they bring you food like when like some lights are happening and it's like purple in there it's blue in there and you're eating food it throws off my ability to even tell how it tastes huh does this make sense because like i can't tell if it looks right to me so i feel like i couldn't taste things right because of the lights does this make sense i mean i certainly scent is tied to taste, so why not sight also? So why not sight?

Because if you were to bring in a dish of food and you had a blindfold on, that might affect the way you're tasting. Totally. Because it would just be, I don't know, texture. It would be a lot of textures, which I know some people are more affected by than others. But if you're looking for, I don't know know i think it lasts until the end of the month if you're looking for a nice little pre pre-show that's fun and it's probably better if you have children or if you're not a single man going alone or if you know one of the pirates that will shout you out in the middle he didn't yell didn't yell at everybody, but he just said my name pretty loudly.

Did he stay in character? I mean, I guess so. I didn't notice such a tonal shift. He was a pretty jovial character on stage. Oh, okay. He was more like the host of the whole thing as opposed to one of the intense pirates guys. There's a lot of kissing in this show too. A lot of love, a lot of kissing.

Nice. Another bold choice. Nice, guys. There's a lot of kissing in this show, too. A lot of love, a lot of kissing. Another bold choice. Nice, yeah. Kissing, yeah. So I was impressed. I was impressed by it. And there's a Christmas show coming up, and I don't know. Might be going back. Yeah, that's fun.

Maybe I'm going back. We'll see. We'll see what happens. We did something this year that I was impressed by uh we went to the queen mary because the queen mary's back and i'd never gone when it was uh like when it happened before and then became shaktoberfest for a couple years right um but uh it was awesome it was more of a carnival vibe but like going on mazes inside of the ship um and then there are like secret speakeasies that if you like notice a symbol on the wall and hand them a poker chip uh you get the opportunity to buy a drink and

right then and there yes in the maze so like they take you somewhere and then you can do the rest of the maze so we got like taken into the hull of the ship and it's all like rusted and we're below water level. And we could see the people going through the maze above. There's like a catwalk with a really freaky light and sound cue. And so we're like 50 feet below, 100 feet, I don't know. Well, I think it was one of those things where like the floor drops out slightly because there was like a manufactured floor on top of the catwalk. Adraft action yeah um and it was like a true delight like it

was i didn't know what to expect i wouldn't say it's on par with theme parks but it's like in between a theme park and a home haunt you know where there's a lot of animatronics and then some scare actors and it was fun and some of the scare actors i mean excuse me some of the animatronics really got me oh yeah yeah because they like moved at odd intervals and i was like oh that one doesn't move and then i'd be like ah i didn't think about going because i was so upset that checked toberfest was gone because we had such a good time there last year but because what you're talking about the may the the one of the highlights was going through the bowels of the ship through that maze but it sounds like they've really plussed it up, if you can linger like you're describing.

It was very cool. We took an elevator down to this lower bar level that they created, and it was awesome. And this is a haunt in a very extremely haunted facility. Yeah. Right. I guess all the mazes are based around Queen Mary lore, too. Oh, is that right?

Yeah. At least the ones on the ship. i kind of attempted to go to this too but like it felt like last year with shaktoberfest that they took their existing infrastructure and they just put shack on everything like there was just captain shack's hideaway maze and that's what they were calling like a speakeasy but really all it was is you walked in and took a shot before you walked through the maze. There was a small boat outside and I bet that's what that was because we didn't go into it because there was a speakeasy in there

but we didn't go. This was more on the pavement somewhere. Yes, exactly. It was on the pavement. It was like a manufactured boat and we almost went in but we didn't have so many poker chips. You do have to purchase the poker chips.

You have to purchase the poker chips to have the opportunity to then later buy a drink. Which I guess before they used to like allow you to go in, you didn't need a chip to get in. It was like, hey, there are hidden speakeasies. And then you could buy a drink and now they're just really making more money off of it. They're going and diming you at Park Harbor.

Yeah. Huh. But I would say the food was great. Like it was like carnival food and it was wonderful. Yeah. It is so much of it is a carnival sort of because there's still like a,

like is there like a whole mirror, like hall of mirrors or whatever? Or no. There might have been. There were a couple of things that were just like carnival rides set up. Yeah, carnival rides. All the booths were there.

Was there a big trampoline still this year? There might have been. There was last year and then I did a flip and I landed on my back and it hurt my neck. I'm not as limber

as I used to be. And it continues to haunt you for this day like the pool on the Queen Mary. Yes, that was the ghost of me being younger

and more able to rebound from a back or neck injury. But yeah, I would like, that sounds fun if you got to hang in the Queen Mary and drink. It was very cool. That was the best part. Yeah. I mean, the mazes were fine and fun and being on the actual boat was cool.

And that's what Shaq Toberfest last year was what was going to be Scott's conduit to, because he would say, like, after the couple of mazes, he goes, is that what the other ones are? And I was like, yeah, kind of. I mean, there's more people and more stuff, but yeah. So that is what Shaq inspired him to be more brave. Wow.

Last year. So hopefully that will continue into the next year. Do you think he would go on this upcoming alien encounter thing? Well, we were talking about this in the car. I want to know, so what's happening is that somebody's staging like an alien encounter play, essentially. As far as I know, I got to add got it was instagram targeted at me they knew they knew i wanted this content so all i know yeah it seems like a scary

recreation of alien encounter but then jason was saying we were talking about like you get covered in blood yes yeah there's a guarantee they suggest accordingly but i'm like i don't want to be covered in blood oh i Oh, I do. Do you really? I think this is going to be fun. I'm going to wear all white and I'm going to go get covered in blood. Wow, all white. Why not? That's a wrestler move when they're doing a match where they're going to bleed because

then the blood gets all over. It really looks scary that way. I think that's what sold me. I mean, I already was on board because I went on an alien encounter once in my life and have dreamed of that day again. When are you doing it? Sometimeurday or a sunday this month interesting yeah but but i don't like the idea of getting drenched in blood otherwise but for alien encounter i will do it you know what i mean like and then when you were like let's just lean into it yeah it's like yeah i guess if i'm

gonna be there and you gotta get covered in blood let's like do it in a fun way yeah and then take pictures and and you know it'll be fun will you be disappointed if you're not that bloody i think i will yeah because if you really you do it up yeah if i'm willing to ruin some white t-shirts over it well and i've talked to some other people who are not going because they don't want to be covered in blood they're like that's not worth it for me but it feels like you just got to go home after. You can't do anything else. Also, do you get in your car and then not get sticky blood on your car? We need to bring a change of clothes? I think we'll bring a change of clothes just to be safe.

They should have one of those shower stations like they have at Islands of Adventure. Yeah. At Toon Lagoon. Themed to the XS Corporation. Right. Yeah. Is there any other ride recreation, a dead ride recreation that you would get bloody for? Back to the Future XS Corporation. Right. Yeah. Is there any other ride recreation, a dead ride recreation that you would get bloody for?

Back to the Future of the Ride. And it doesn't make any logical sense. Yeah, no, it doesn't need to. I would get bloody for the E.T. Adventure, which I know it still kind of exists, but I would do that. It absolutely exists. Yeah, we just gotta go to Florida. But it doesn't exist here.

I know, we grew up with one out here. But was it that different? Was it markedly different? I don't know. E.T. and Elliot escaped the scary tent by slitting throats. I love it.

I would get bloody for to go to the Adventurers Club at Pleasure Island, I would get bloody. I'm willing to get bloody for the Adventurers Club. Just to have like one drink and see the puppet guy at the front yeah I guess truthfully it would be more like confrontation and jaws over Back to the Future of the Ride

my back can't take Back to the Future of the Ride these days Jason what do you think? would you get bloody? take it out of theme park any scenario what would you get bloody for? maybe a cheese plank if I get covered in blood, if I can redo my senior brahmin for no reason at all, I get covered in blood.

What is a literary? Do you want to be the Carrie? I don't know. You're such a Carrie. I like a Carrie that wants to be drenched in blood. Well, you said anything. I was just trying to think about notable life events. Well, what would you do to fix it if you had to go back in time?

Would probably make it not be pouring rain and not be held on Memorial Day weekend. You can't fix that, though. But you're making pouring blood? Like, what? To get soaked in blood, it has to be worth it. So what would you do to fix it? What would it make the ideal thing? You didn't say, I want to go back in time to go to my prom again.

I think make it more entertaining. I mean, yeah, it was boring rain at my senior prom. It was Memorial Day weekend. My date had laryngitis. Which she really should have stayed home and was also secretly dating my friend.

So I had no idea. Oh, that's heavy. Did you go with someone else? Oh, maybe. Well, we still had a nice time. Jason, that's so symbolic that she had a secret. And so she got laryngitis. So she could not tell you that secret.

Wow. How about it? So it sounds like you wouldn't change a thing. I don't know. Well, I would probably say alien encounter. But I don't want to go to this thing and get covered in blood either. All right. But you're going, okay, but you're going to go back in time to just enjoy this laryngitis

prom. Uh, yeah. Or, or I, well, is it real blood or is it like stage? It could be stage blood. Yeah. Okay. I'm hoping that it's stage blood? It could be stage blood, yeah. I'm hoping that it's stage blood for alien encounter. I think if my parents told me they were getting divorced and then I got a bucket of blood dumped on me, I would have laughed and laughed.

That would be pretty funny. Where did they tell you? In our family room. I think if you could stage that as a one-act play. Yeah, I would love it. That's great. It's very like you can't do that on television. I don't even know what that means.

I think that would just be a funny moment. You're David Lynch. Yeah, I think that's just art. I think you really answered it. Yeah, it's very Black Lodge, you know. I would also say you can do it as a series of scene-lets of just like a lot of kids being told that their parents are getting

divorced. Because my parents told me at a Baskin-Robbins and I would love to see a little... I remember you told me that once and then we did go there once or twice because it's in Los Angeles. What if you could relive that though and then get covered in blood? I would love it. I think it would be very, very funny. Yeah, see

there's something funny about it. It feels like insult to injury in a funny way where i like even at 14 i would have laughed at that oh man that's going in one of our never seen carrie i mostly know it you should see it's such a beautiful movie like it's truly good i know i know i mean i love the actors i love the director um so you'll have a good time it's a good movie it's really good like every time i see it i'm like man it's more beautiful than i remember sure well what else can anyone say after that that idea that seems perfect we have to do that and when we make a halloween

mace i have to have a scene where somebody gets told their parents are getting divorced and it gets covered in blood i make scott and aaron tell me they're getting sure yeah well but only so i can get covered first they legally adopt you it would be funny if we made a podcast to ride maze and we just put you in the room and then two actors playing your parents and then you just get covered in blood all night it's like a dunk tank of blood yeah it would be it would have to be like you get covered and then like like Two like interns Come and hose you down And then the next group Comes in

And then you get Covered in blood again I was just gonna say Like a dozen pairs Of like Shorts and white t-shirts You know That's true

But that Is that to change Every time Seems exhausting Changing that much though Yeah you could just Start wet And then get covered

In blood Wear a rubber outfit And we'll hose you down Right As they say Wear a rubber outfit And we'll hose you down. Right. As they say, wear a rubber outfit and we'll hose you down. Simbana with this show. Yeah. I forgot.

Well, Marissa, Justin, you've survived Podcast the Fright. Honcast the Fright, excuse me. We're exiting through the Crypt Shop. Plugging, do you want to do it? Sure. Let's do it. You can find me on social media at HeyJustin. I have a podcast called Batman the Animated Podcast.

Yeah, I've been on it. Sometimes Mike was just on it. Jason's been on it. Marissa played a character on it back when I did characters on it 10 years ago. I just resurrected it. It's mostly defunct, but you can listen to it. And Nature Talks to Itself, which is an improv podcast I do,

Nature Talks Pod on social media. My name is Marissa Strickland. And you can follow me at Marissa Strickland on things. And then marissastrickland.com is my website if you're interested in seeing some colors I've seen in my life. Okay. And are colors short films?

I don't know. I was just like, my website's kind of colorful. I like colors. So I'm just imagining they're colors that I've also seen. If you go to the website, it's like color of the day, cyan.

And then that's, just look at the color. And I'll put a stamp after I viewed it. I've seen this color. Well, everyone has turned the podcast off prematurely now to go look, to see what the color of the day is. Well, I hope you like lavender. As for us, Podcast the Ride, you can get more.

We got four bonus episodes at patreon.com slash podcast the ride. We just put out an episode about the Monster Mash or many Monster Mashes. We went back and found pre-Monster Mash monster party songs and then explored the future or the post-Monster Mash works of Bobby Boris Pickett. And there's more fun stuff coming out. I think we just put one out about a weird Disney cruise show villains thing. But yeah, check it out. And as for us, we're going to be working on getting cheese planks for Jason. And we're going to get this career off the ground.

We're going to get this influencer career. Oh, okay. That's exactly what an influencer feels like. And then he's going to get covered in blood. I will manage you. Forever. Forever. Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production.

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