Podcast: The Ride - Haunted Mansion 6 LIVE

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

The annual tradition continues as we make our way through the Haunted Mansion! But this time we're dressed like The Munsters and there's a live audience! Recorded live at Dynasty Typewriter, October ...20, 2023 Harrison Ford and Calista Flockhart's Halloween Costumes Episode up at The Cemetary Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FOREVER! DOG! When hinges creak in dork-filled chambers and strange Pennsylvania pronunciations echo through the halls that is the time when good boys are present practicing their discomfort at That is the time when good boys are present, practicing their discomfort at mild sexuality.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Is this haunted intro actually stretching, or is it time to start the show? There's no turning back now. It's Hot Cast the Fright Live! Ah, how do you do? Hello, hello, and welcome to the first ever Hauntcast the Fright Live. Oh yes, it's the only, it's a show that does not just make out-of-date 1960s pop culture references. Tonight, we also dress like them. That's right. For anyone just listening, you may not be aware.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Nothing, nothing. Oh, that was fast. Well, first of all, you may not be aware Mike was wearing bolts. He is now wearing half a bolt, and not for long. Darn, darn, darn, darn, darn. Carmen! Herman! May perhaps that all implies to the listener that we have finally assumed our ultimate true form. We are at last dressed as the Munsters.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Here, let's go down the line. Who do we got over here? Herman. He sure is. And I'm old grandpa Gardner come visit my restaurant you'll find me reading a newspaper in the lobby and I won't acknowledge you and over here and I'm little Eddie and I don't remember any of his little things. Although we did have multiple conversations on whether I would
Starting point is 00:02:52 be Eddie or Grandpa. I know. Well, look, it felt like a default. I mean, ultimately height order had to be taken into consideration. I had to be honored. Height order,
Starting point is 00:03:06 costumes, all the best parts of podcasting of an audio medium. Enjoy it, listener. But also enjoy it, people here in person. Thank you for coming. Enjoy it, people live streaming. Thanks to Dynasty Typewriter.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Hello, live streamers. Hello, live screamers. We're so excited. Let's take a seat. No reason not to take a seat. Well, Herman, if you want to do it in sort of long-legged, stiff-legged fashion, feel free. Not to put you on the physical comedy spot. Yeah, fuck up that chair we don't own. The bit was he would break things when he sat in them.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Oh, see, again, I think we're discovering we don't really know the monsters, we just like dressing like them. That's good, yep. Great. Okay. Wonderful. And nothing is broken. Oh, wait, Jason, don't sit on your little guy. You got a little guy
Starting point is 00:04:02 with you, too. Oh, I got the little guy. We did know that about Eddie. Eddie has his little wolf here. You got a little guy with you too. I got the little guy. We did know that about Eddie. Eddie has his little wolf here. Jane found a little wolf man. It's a dog toy wolf man because all of the others were, the movie appropriate ones were $40 to $50.
Starting point is 00:04:18 This one was significantly less and we can give it to the dog later tonight. He can have a good time. It's a thrill. It's a thrill. It's a thrill to be here, but it's especially a thrill to assume this Munster form. And for me personally, even being kind of like a cheap version of Grandpa Munster feels really great.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Just given the pedigree of who has played this part in the past. Of course, you've got Al Lewis, obviously. Al Lewis is the primary and the originator, and he's great, and his restaurant was great. But last year, in a new iteration of the Munsters, somebody else joined the proud lineup of grandpa portrayers and that is an
Starting point is 00:05:07 actor named Daniel Roebuck give it up for Daniel Roebuck Daniel Roebuck comes up a lot on the show because he also played another role that is very important to us the role of Jay Leno in the HBO TV movie The Late Shift which we covered in one of our longest
Starting point is 00:05:23 episodes ever the less theme park the longer we go TV movie, The Late Shift, which we covered in one of our longest episodes ever. The less theme park, the longer we go. And I bring all this up for a reason because, are we up to it? Are our stills up? Mike, can you bring up the picture I have kept secret from you?
Starting point is 00:05:39 Look at that! My bolts fell off. I'm in such shock. Roebuck! Listeners, I met Daniel Roebuck and I've kept it secret from my host for weeks. This happened on October 1st and I wanted to tell you as soon as it happened.
Starting point is 00:05:58 What? And then we keep doing episodes and I'm like, is now the time? Is now the time? No, no, no. And then eventually it just became, I'm going to be dressed as Grandpa. I'm going to show everybody that I met
Starting point is 00:06:07 a Grandpa. I met a Grandpa! Wow. Look at that! And that is, I know that background, that is the historic Tam O'Shanter Lobby. That is it. Tam O'Shanter. I met Daniel Roebuck
Starting point is 00:06:24 in the lobby of Walt Disney's favorite restaurant. Now I feel like doing it on stage is usurping the... I've been wanting to see your guys' faces. I'm shocked. I've been wanting to announce this news for so long. I'm also shocked that you could keep a secret
Starting point is 00:06:40 from us that long. I told as many other people as I could to get the Jones out. But I knew ultimately I had to tell you on mic and then eventually on stage. History, I couldn't believe it. What did the average person say
Starting point is 00:06:54 when you said the sentences to indicate what happened here? Well, you are assuming that I texted any average people. Fair enough, fair enough. Griffin Newman knew right
Starting point is 00:07:12 away. My wife, Erin, knew right away. A gasp in a text message form. And this photo was taken by a friend of the show, Buzz Buzz, and he Yeah, well, thanks for the woos for that. It's crazy because on his very phone the day before, he had texted a photo of this man,
Starting point is 00:07:30 but due to his role in a Star Wars cartoon... Here's a real test of the audience. Does anyone know who Daniel Roebuck plays in Star Wars? Grease. Wait, Grease was the name? Wow, thank you. Got some Grease heads here tonight. Grease heads Wow. Thank you. Got some grease heads here tonight. Grease heads here.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Grease. This is also, it's really it's just like, it's an audience that has your back. I knew I could throw that out. And I'd be mad. Thank you so much for that. Anyway, incredible. He was super nice. I said, I have a toy of you.
Starting point is 00:08:03 My co-host on my podcast gave me a toy of you. He said, oh, a toy of you. My co-host on my podcast gave me a toy of you. He said, oh, you have a podcast. We talked for a little bit, and guess what? I got them digits. So... Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:14 So... Holy shit. Nothing's officially... You believe me? You are not prepared for this on stage. Should we pull the Munsters episode down?
Starting point is 00:08:25 We'd like to, but... Not about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, possibly. It's behind a paywall, I think. That'll do. Okay. You've all heard it, though.
Starting point is 00:08:32 So we can pull it. Unhear it. Audio deneuralizer, whatever the Men in Black thing is. Okay. So anyway, possibility of Roebuck content to come, but I had to do some live Roebuck content here for you now. Oh, I need a lot. I just need a second. Yeah, I know. Take it. Yeah, me content here for you now. Oh, I need a second.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yeah, I know. Yeah, me too. I'm trying to think, other than just, if it was you and Eisner in the TAM, and you got his phone number, that's maybe the only other thing I would have been more excited about. I also, I wanted to be really careful about how I did that little introduction, because I didn't want you to start thinking,
Starting point is 00:09:02 and ladies and gentlemen, here he is. And then you get disappointed. I hope the photo was enough, is enough. It can remain up as long as anyone wants. Thank you, Daniel. You were so nice to me. Hopefully we can talk again. That's amazing. Yeah, how about that? Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:09:18 We gotta calm down now, I think, for this. Well, maybe the thing to do is to put the spotlight away from us and away from Mr. Roebuck and say, like, okay, it's pretty. I was hoping that I could check out costumes a little bit, but it's pretty blinding light, so I can't really tell. But we stepped up our costume game, and I am curious.
Starting point is 00:09:39 It was a little light. If any. Oh, thank you. Thanks for giving us something. Okay, I see some stuff. I see some stuff. I see some stuff, but still people would have to call it out I guess the question is
Starting point is 00:09:49 does anybody feel like they are wearing a costume that is especially theme park oriented and oh my god well we've got a really good you know what, here guys, come on up if it's not so insane to come on up I think you may have won already wow, we have I can see enough have won already. Wow. Oh, my. We have...
Starting point is 00:10:05 I can see enough that this is a... Oh, my God. Wow. We got an awe from the audience because that is a Winnie the Pooh and a hopping Tigger. Oh, my God. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Oh, jeez. Come on up. Wow, wow. Oh, thanks for coming. I'm careful, yeah. Wait, I'm like... Oh, wait. The hand? Whoa. The hand?
Starting point is 00:10:26 The hand goes? This was my childhood beloved toy was to squeeze the hand. Can I give you a hug? Is that okay? I won't leave you out, Tigger. Thank you. What are you guys' names?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Holly. Will. Holly and Will. Great to meet you. And I think Mike's got something for you. You know what? I have two little treats over here for two people that dressed up. And of course, I have little toys.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Save the hopping. Save the hopping. Let's all say your favorite Disney character at once. 1, 2, 3. Dr. Lily Houghton. Wow. From Disney's Jungle Cruise. So I have two Lily Houghtons.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Wow. Thank you for dressing up. Wait, Holly and Will, is that correct? Alright, awesome. Thank you for Holly and Will. Winning the Pooh and Tigger. Four listeners. Incredible costumes. I felt like I needed the hug
Starting point is 00:11:33 because it felt so theme park quality. God, that's fantastic. Was it better or worse than hugging Minnie? Well, you know the answer. Oh, you're right Yes Well yes Because I went in for the hug
Starting point is 00:11:48 As opposed to You all felt like it was a misread of a signal The Disneyland mini did not want to hug me And I stand by that All the Orlando minis wanted to hug me It was about Eight minutes to park closing And there was a line behind us
Starting point is 00:12:06 with actual children. You think that's... Yeah, and I got in the line before them, so I got a hug before them. That's how it works. That's how lines work. He did call firsties. Orlando Minis wanting to hug you feels like we're
Starting point is 00:12:21 somewhere close to like a Lou Bega kind of song premise should i write a song called orlando minis absolutely and i don't mean to dictate a genre but it also it kind of feels in the vicinity of pitbull yeah i couldn't i couldn't love the sound of that more. You've been looking for a reason to get those short leather gloves to wear while you podcast to perform. I guess the question is does Pitbull wear...
Starting point is 00:12:53 Little leather gloves. Right? I can picture it. I'm not sure if that's the kind of thing you can ask them about. I don't know. Grizz or whatever. Sure.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I feel like I saw another hand go up on this side, though. Okay, everybody's pointing at somebody. Oh, I see it. Okay, you want to come up here? We have... Oh, I don't have more. We don't, but I have a...
Starting point is 00:13:17 I have kind of a, like... Oh, yes. Cool, go ahead. Not a physical present, but something... Oh, do you have a Dr. Lily hotness? Look at this. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Wow. Here, Mike, do you want to.... Lily hot? Look at this. Wow. Wow. Here, Mike, do you want to? Oh, my gosh. I think I know what we're dealing with here. Wow. Wow. What's your name? I'm Crystal.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Crystal. Thank you so much. Wow. Thank you for dressing up. Would you like to announce anything specific about what your dress is? I'm Beulah from Country Bear Jamboree. Nice. One of the Sunbonnet trio.
Starting point is 00:13:46 That's what I was scared. I was like, you must know the name. And you clearly know the name. Yeah, I think my two other friends already decided which ones we were. Great. I'm glad you sorted that out. You have to. Let me, here is the, that is an amazing costume.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Much appreciated. And here is your present. It's not something that you can take home, but if you're up for it, would you like to do the honors of introducing tonight's topic? Okay. Here you go. And I'll use my
Starting point is 00:14:18 microphone. Here is the topic reveal, courtesy of... Wait, sorry, what's your name again? Crystal. Okay. Alright, here you go, and I'll give you the microphone. Foolish good boys. Please discuss The Haunted Mansion. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:14:34 Thank you so much. Take that if you want. Take a dirty bolt on the ground if you want to. You worked on one of the dirty bolts? No. No. No're done. Want the dirty bowl? No. No. No, please.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Give it up for Crystal, everybody. Incredible costume. Wow, wow. And that takes us to this. We have now revealed this, tonight's topic, the Haunted Mansion. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Haunted Mansion 6, baby. Haunted Mansion 6. The first live one well yes never been done live before but it felt like the thing to do
Starting point is 00:15:10 the big ticket item in the Halloween season now let me ask this question are people here generally familiar with how we have dealt with the
Starting point is 00:15:21 Haunted Mansion in the past great great just to recap just in case in case anyone is wondering we have dealt with the Haunted Mansion in the past. Great, great. Just to recap, just in case, in case anyone's wondering why Haunted Mansion 6. Because the way that we have done this is every year, Halloween week,
Starting point is 00:15:37 we cover the Haunted Mansion. This was a decision that I made a long time ago. And it's a decision that I have reconsidered and had sleepless nights about since. However, I think it's been fun. It's let us cover a lot of ground. But I would say that the only underlying thing with the Haunted Mansion is that
Starting point is 00:16:03 my co-hosts and I will sometimes have disagreements about the speed at which we proceed through this classic attraction. Now, of course, it makes sense to do many, many years of it. There's so much culture there, so much to discuss. However, we're not always
Starting point is 00:16:19 completely aligned. I think that I maybe hit a bit of a wall in year two. Yeah think that I maybe hit a bit of a wall in year two. Yeah, that was fast. In year two, I thought that it might be good to discuss a little bit of the ride in the podcast series about the ride. And you said, and we discovered our disagreements together um i was told to slow my roll and that it was more important to discuss the uh full history of american foyers and we're all looking at a particular host well look there's a lot of woodworking when you start the ride there's a lot of wallpaper history was you start the ride. There's a lot of wallpaper history.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Was that the year that I said we should talk about the chair and you lost it on us? That's a pretty notable chair. Or has that happened every year? I assume, again, we've talked about things that I immediately erase. The pencil is followed right by the eraser. There's probably a chair in every one of these rooms that gets discussed. That's true. That I end up.
Starting point is 00:17:28 But no, I think that's a year three thing. I suggested moving through a room. And then it was a lot of, no, no, no, no, no. Where is a chair that needs to be discussed? Now, these are the early days. Because this is year six of this somehow. Right. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And I, I feel like we are a little more aligned. This is what's happened. Yes. As the years have gone on, we've like gotten a little more in sync. And just to illustrate this, Mike,
Starting point is 00:17:57 if you could bring up that little map, that diagram. So there we go. This is what you're looking at right now, this is an overhead of the Haunted Mansion, like a schematic, and the yellow line is where we were after year four. Now, if you could show us where we ended up after year five.
Starting point is 00:18:28 We're still making progress. Yes. We didn't go backwards. Yeah. The hat box ghost got re-added as part of the diamond celebration. Oh, that is one of my triggers. Scott hates when we say diamond celebration Diamond celebration The assumption that I know Is that diamond celebration
Starting point is 00:18:48 Well because the Mad Tea Party They had a special diamond celebration playlist Where they would play Like a different Blink-182 song Yeah they had two pitbull songs On that playlist And hey look It's our sixth year
Starting point is 00:19:04 Which they call the Little Diamond Celebration. We all know that. Is that true? No, it's not at all. Okay, well maybe. I'm lying for comedic effect. That's how few diamonds I've
Starting point is 00:19:20 bought, little or big. But so, you know, for the listener, that little jump in the yellow line, that was, you know for the listener that little jump in the yellow line that was you know that probably represents about six feet in attraction ride track and that is because last year was entirely about the
Starting point is 00:19:35 hatbox ghost and there definitely was a ton about the hatbox ghost and I agree we all signed off on this and I think it's become friendlier more this and I think it's become a friendlier more empathetic yeah we've really I think that I think brotherhood is formed between us says this has gone on that said I think tonight there is an opportunity to make a little bit of headway
Starting point is 00:19:57 wouldn't you say there's an opportunity there's some dramatic tension certainly cause I don't want to get too far past that caretaker but I'm an entertainer at heart and I want the people to feel like they got their money's worth but I got a lot to say about that fall
Starting point is 00:20:22 the fall? you mean like going backwards down the hill? I got a lot to say about that fall. The fall? The fall. You mean like going backwards down the hill? Well, I learned some stuff about the fall this year that we need to discuss. Okay. Well, and we will. Look, I'm excited. I'm excited for all this.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yes. This will be great. We'll see where we land. Listeners, get a guess ready in your mind. You've got the map there. Just physically, just mark it off mentally. I know where I'd like to be. And it's not the exit.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Okay? It isn't. Not the exit of the ride or the exit of the building. I'm excited for this. So, that said, there is some business that needs to be attended to before we can even get to this fall. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:10 We need to discuss how Mike said he wants the Hatbox Ghost that's going into Florida to look like Jared Leto. I wanted it to be different. And I'm just trying to help. I mean, that's a whole And I'm just trying to help. I mean, that's a whole...
Starting point is 00:21:26 I could talk about the Havox because where they're putting it in Florida. Okay, yep, that's fine. Oh, whoa. Say that for a few years from now. Well, I'll allow it. It's, you know, that's the other thing. Because there is so much Haunted Mansion news
Starting point is 00:21:39 and there's a few of them around the world, you do end up with, like, every one of these years, the need to do like Haunted Mansion news and views. Yeah, that's true. Things do happen every year. They do happen. But I'm like whatever you were talking about. I feel free. Next month it is going
Starting point is 00:21:55 in Disney World. I believe. Right after Halloween. Always time this stuff perfectly. And you don't like where they are putting it? No one likes where they're putting it. No.
Starting point is 00:22:13 No. Oh, you like it? No, I don't like it. No, it's at the hallway, right? Yeah, it's at the hallway. And it's too busy. It's too busy. Before Leota summons the ghosts.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah. He's coming in the doorway down the hall, way before the ghosts materialize. This is getting this interesting reaction from the audience. It's always like, oh! Some people didn't know!
Starting point is 00:22:39 Some people may need a minute to process this! Sorry, I'm hearing about this for the first time. If you need to excuse yourself and go to the lobby and make a few calls, now that you know, feel free. Because I understand that's heavy news to hear. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:22:57 People are arguing about why the electrical isn't right to put it in the attic, like right after the attic. What is there? An electrical issue? There's not an outlet near. isn't right to put it in the attic like right after the attic but what is their electrical issue? There's not an outlet near They're missing an outlet and if they ran an extension cord it would look ugly. Oh he's got to be grounded. He's got to be plugged right in the wall. He can't use an extension cord.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Oh you're right. Too much power. Too much power. It's got to be a connection. Well, they should have thought of that years ago. Anyway, here's what we need to address, is that we've already broken from tradition by having other people around for this
Starting point is 00:23:39 and by not doing a cold open. Because typically, as we've done this series, the fact that there's that year gap between all of the episodes, and I think it'll be interesting to listen back in like, wow, an entire decade? How many do we think it's going to be at this point? That you'll be able to listen to all that in a row and hopefully in a seamless fashion. Some of that run where it's on Zoom, so there's a lot of delays and a lot of sad sackery about how we're on Zoom.
Starting point is 00:24:14 But besides that, hopefully it all kind of flows together. And part of the seamless stitching of these episodes is that we've done these little assignments. Next year, the episode will start and we'll all do this and we'll all say something. I don't know if that's a character's name. I think last time it was the amount of weeks
Starting point is 00:24:36 until Avatar Way of Water came out. James made it. Six weeks later we all fell in love with everybody, the Metcaina. Yeah, that's right. Yes. Agreed with applause.
Starting point is 00:24:52 But what started happening was my co-hosts were not doing the assignment. All you had to do was go back and listen to what are we going to yell at the top of next year. A pretty small assignment. And that broke down some of the trust that I think is built up during this somewhat combative series. So the assignment for next year became something that was a little more complicated
Starting point is 00:25:21 and that had a little more stakes. I don't know if I should say the assignment or if I should say the, I mean, I won't say the assignment. I will say that if you guys didn't achieve what I, we agreed on the, that you would achieve that we would never talk about the hitchhiking ghosts. The hitchhiking ghosts are pulled if you don't do the little assignment.
Starting point is 00:25:45 And so I ask you now. Gentlemen, can I see, first of all, your stickers? Step one was a sticker. Was it technically a sticker? It had to be a sticker? I Step one was a sticker. Was it technically a sticker? It had to be a sticker? I don't remember a sticker. Maybe not a sticker. I think what it had to be was a hoodie, and I'll cut some slack
Starting point is 00:26:13 because we're dressed like the Munsters. I'll cut some slack on this. We didn't plan to dress like the Munsters last year. Yes, that was not part of the plan last year. So I will say, here's what I will agree to. Any amount of any of the plan being done by either of you puts the H being done by either of you puts the Hitchhiking Ghosts back on the table.
Starting point is 00:26:27 All right. But I notice, Mike, that you're wearing something. There's a hoodie under. Oh, my God. Whoa! Oh, my God! It says Piacon. Piacon!
Starting point is 00:26:45 The mighty Piacon! Leader of the great Tulcun! Not the leader, the wisest, I think. I think he was the deepest of the Tulcun. That's right. And you snuck it in there. Here you are getting dressed like Herman Munster
Starting point is 00:27:01 and I didn't even notice. I hid this from them so I'm not you're not the only one with secrets I've got a few Jason I turn to you
Starting point is 00:27:14 gosh I've just been so busy lately with the move and I don't wanna I don't wanna let everyone down you know
Starting point is 00:27:22 I love our listeners and they mean so much to me so that it's good I followed the fucking assignment what does that say? also Piacon? Piacon! Piacon!
Starting point is 00:27:37 a double Piacon it's a Feliz Navidad miracle oh my gosh Wow, wow you guys I'm so impressed I've been wondering Is the whole thing here going to be the gear up
Starting point is 00:27:55 To where then it does it Because it got lost in the shuffle Got lost in putting the live show together And I forgot, part of the assignment was It was a reveal of your favorite character From Avatar Way of Water in blue ink. And sure enough, blue from both of you. Great job.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah. However, second part of the assignment. And I do notice, Jason, there is a box already on the stage. I get to open it even. Wow. What's in the box? What's in the fucking Wow. What's in the box? What's in the fucking box? What's in the fucking box?
Starting point is 00:28:29 Wow. The assignment was, in honor of the hat box ghost, to get a box of any kind and to put a hat in it that would surprise me. I did say that a Phillies hat wouldn't count because I know you have those. They're playing right now. Do you need to check a score? Five to three.
Starting point is 00:28:53 What is it? Five to three. Phillies. Thank you. Five to three. Yay, Phillies. Go Phillies. And let's keep that support for Jason's team and for Jason, because he has brought me, and I'm very surprised to see, a propeller beanie!
Starting point is 00:29:15 Wow. This does feel like Christmas to me. You're unwrapping presents. I'm so happy. Guess what? I just thought of a new rule,. You need to put it on Eddie Munster. I'm gonna do the best I can cause I've already tried it on and I have too big of a head. Usually I'm up for adults.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Wow! Oh my gosh. Spin it around. Oh yeah, spin it. Can you help? Yay! We got it! He got it! This has turned into what I was like, I just need to be ready in case it's the greatest disappointment
Starting point is 00:29:56 and it needs the most anger from me. And then what if the audience is mad and boos me? But instead, it's such a victory. Unless, Mike, you have not achieved the final step of the plan. Well, it doesn't seem like I have a box anywhere around here. No, not on a table like Jason has. Does it? Does it? Does it seem like that?
Starting point is 00:30:17 Are you going to propose to me? Then it would be the perfect night. I don't have a hat, but I am going to propose. I'll let you do the honors. It is the tiniest little chest. And the three people who were like, oh, so they're going to talk about the Haunted Mansion. They're like, why are they over that little chest?
Starting point is 00:30:43 The hell is this show? And inside is the tiniest little hat. I'm so glad we did this. It is a little cloth-ish hat that says weird on it. To what does that refer? that says weird on it? To what does that refer? That is a hat for my little ninja turtles. In that, please,
Starting point is 00:31:17 do not let me pocket this. Do not let me accidentally throw it in the audience. I know how much these are important to you. This hat is, Michelangelo has been wearing this hat for about a year.
Starting point is 00:31:27 In the current set up I have, he's having a little house party with Mondo Gecko in the sewer. And Mondo Gecko is break dancing and Michelangelo is holding like a boom box. With this hat on. Wow. That's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Encouraging weirdness. Wait, actually, I know it's going to come right off, but can you put the hat on as well? Wow. Yeah. Right on that Herman flat top. That's perfect. Oh my gosh. You guys, delightful.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I'm so glad. I do have to give credit. Gene helped me out and got this hat because the hat I ordered kept getting pushed back and pushed back, and it was a bucket hat with a propeller on it. I know, I know. I'm disappointed, too. Wow, wow.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Not a bucket head like the guitar player Bucket Head. Yeah, yeah. That would have surprised me too So this is a Burbank Halloween store Not returnable purchase Now live in our new apartment I've discovered that over the course Of getting us all Munster's costumes
Starting point is 00:32:38 And various things Yeah not a lot of return policies out there Nor would they want anything We're all going to be sweating into these implements. Is everything, are we like, are we dripping paint at this point?
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah, it's disgusting. I, please just scream if you're too alarmed by our appearance at some point. Guys, that was so great.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Can I tell you what I would have done had you not done this? The planet. Spanked our little bottoms? Yeah, Scott, was it spank our little bottoms? No, I would never want to spank your little bottoms.
Starting point is 00:33:20 That's not the kind of thing I'd like to do. These guys are crazy. Spin that propeller again, Jason. Just the kind of thing I'd like to do. These guys are crazy. Spin that propeller again, Jason. Just the thought of it. He's so annoyed. I'm not used to it. Who would be?
Starting point is 00:33:39 Who wears one on a daily basis? My plan was, I don't want to lose the hitchhiking ghosts either. And I was going to make a little sacrifice. And if Jason didn't fulfill the plan, I was going to say, guess what? We're making a trade. Brian Setzer will no longer be mentioned on the show. Oh, we dodged him. Yeah, that would have caused a boo.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Again, not happening. And Mike, I didn't think it would come to this, but I had to bring out the big guns. If you had not succeeded in the plan, Green Day, gone. Yes. Green Day and Smashing Pumpkins just announced an arena tour for next year. Stadium tour, stadium tour, you're right.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Not a sphere tour? Not yet. In which case, I know you'd be there. All right, well, that is the end of what typically is supposed to have been a minute and a half intro of these episodes. So
Starting point is 00:34:35 what has happened now, I would say, we've eaten into enough of the time. Now we're looking at about an hour left. We've basically guaranteed that we will not get anywhere with all of that nonsense. This surely will be the least productive
Starting point is 00:34:51 of the Haunted Mansion. I'm not sure. I'm glad they're here. I'm just saying, who knows what could happen? Maybe we just speed through it and we end the ride tonight. That's right.
Starting point is 00:35:06 We don't want that. Is there anyone who'd like to vocalize wanting it? Yeah. Yay, thank you. All right. And it's spread. Easy, killer. Easy, killer.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Thanks for your horse. So now this having been dealt with, let's talk about the ride. We're in the ride. Let's get into the ride. Yes. Because this is an exciting part because when you get away from the Hatbox Ghost,
Starting point is 00:35:37 the very first thing when you turn is that you enter the sequence, the graveyard. We are in the graveyard, the big finale, the most complicated, full of different characters and scenes and gags part. There's so much to talk about here. So we've got a lot to deal with tonight. That said, Jason, I almost feel like you should be deputized
Starting point is 00:35:58 to set the pace, to be the pace car. And I also feel like you maybe have some thoughts you were saying about the very first thing. So we've kind of, we've turned, right? We've gotten a view of that graveyard. And we're up on the second level. This is like a, this visual to talk about for a minute. This is like the, maybe only beaten by the Mara room
Starting point is 00:36:20 in Indiana Jones in terms of it's multi-layered and it seems to go on forever and it's a big dramatic beat where you're like wow we're gonna be there for a while i can't wait let's get into it yeah sure uh just one thing um before that i well yeah before that uh little epilogue on the hatbox goes i i got a hold of the jasonrell coffee table book about Haunted Mansion. I finally broke down and bought it. After years of taking out the Burbank Library's coffee.
Starting point is 00:36:52 You never bought the book? In all the years of basically reading it on a podcast. You never gave the man some money? I did. I bought it now. And I said... Wait, can I...
Starting point is 00:37:06 Did you buy it because the book was checked out? No, no, the book is still available. The book is still available. Head there after this. You have to break in at this hour, but... Worth it. Yeah, worth it. So that was in 2004 printing.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And we talked about how the Hatbox Ghost Ghost only had one page in that edition. And I got a hold of the newest edition, which is dated 2015. And now the Hatbox Ghost has one page dedicated to him still. Is there any new information? Yeah, not really. There's a picture of that guy, Ray Spencer. Is that his name that we talked about last year?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Remember? He's a circus man. He's in the toy store at California Adventure. Oh, yes. There's a picture of him in there. Is he in a fun hat in that, too? Oh, no, just slacks and a button-up. All right, so the book is unchanged, is what you're telling us.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Pretty much. There's little bits and pieces here and there, it seems like. But not much more about the hat box ghost. Thank God, boy, hey, it keeps working out tonight. Things keep coming up, Grandpa. Hey! Hey, it keeps working out tonight. Things keep coming up, Grandpa. Hey. Okay, so that means we get to... Let's talk about going in reverse, right?
Starting point is 00:38:34 You tell me. We spin in reverse, and we go down the hill into the graveyard. You are essentially falling out of the attic. This is what I didn't know until recently. Yeah, I kind of didn't either. I guess really what you, because it's like you're being killed and you're falling backwards into the graveyard. That's some interpretations, yes. Or you could be falling, you're saying you could be alive falling backwards out a window and maybe upon impact you die.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Oh, and it goes so slowly because everything's flashing before you. What in reality would be just one or two seconds of horror is stretched out to ten seconds or so. Right, what's interesting about it is I find that part of the ride so relaxing. It's kind of like a reset. Gives you a break from all the activity and lights and stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Well, and it's like you're in a hospital bed, and it starts going down. Famously comfortable. Yeah, pretty good. But now that I'm hearing what it might be simulating, it's kind of, I don't know, it's weird. I feel like it should be, here's what I'm saying. It should be a jerky, violent motion when you're falling out the window. The thing should whip around,
Starting point is 00:39:52 and then you'd do a drop like pirates, but you're backwards in the Omnimover. I'm just saying they fucked up. Huh? It's an unclear death. The exact one. It's supposed to be dead. Well, there was something apparently
Starting point is 00:40:07 that would have spelled this moment out a little more clearly although this is very speculative and this is from doombuggies.com I now will read in front of an audience part of a website it's a printed out part of a website here we go, that's what you came here and paid for and then Grandpa Munster read me a website. It's a printed out part of a website. Here we go. That's what you came here and paid for.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And then Grandpa Munster read me a website. It's my favorite show. And six years of this, you're saying? And Daniel Roebuck was at the Tam O'Shanter. Yeah, and we all got excited about it. Very nice. Very good. Lock them up.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Put them away. We're sorry. Okay, so. All right. It's the idea of that that part is supposed to be dying has been maybe written off as revisionist history. Maybe not the Imagineers' intention. But a Haunted Mansion enthusiast named Hunter Adamson
Starting point is 00:41:08 shared a story with Doom Buggies. He swears this from a reliable source. I once heard from an old Disney manager that part of the original plan for the Haunted Mansion was that as you leaned backwards to descend to the graveyard, there would have been a Pepper's Ghost-type figure shoveling dirt as if to be burying
Starting point is 00:41:22 the occupants of the Doom Buggy in the cemetery alive. So that would be like in the ceiling, essentially? Jason has a big smile on his face. I'm just imagining someone hosing a thing of caramel cord and then going on this ride. And it's like, oh, wow, we're getting buried alive. It's that famous Disney touch. Walt, like, introducing the ride on, or not ABC, whatever channel it was on.
Starting point is 00:41:53 And then... NBC. NBC. And then you'll go and you'll be buried alive. It's very strange it does open up like what else you could do there that if they're gonna make it like we're so personal and so much your death like if there were if the next step of that was more peppers ghosts but not too many because the idea could be that there's just like one groundskeeper and nobody else there because you are having a sparsely attended funeral.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Or, well, yeah, or it's like, if you're actually dying, everybody's really happy about it. They're having a big, you're about to go to a big party. Oh, sure. Which on one hand, I guess is like it's a nice, it's comforting in a way because you go like, oh, there'll be an afterlife
Starting point is 00:42:43 or a party in the afterlife. Or everyone's thrilled that I'm dead. Well, it'd be great if there were a bunch of revelers all celebrating above your grave, and then you wonder aloud, is this because they're celebrating my life? And one of them says, no, we're happy you're dead. You're going to hell.
Starting point is 00:43:07 You know what? They should have kept then, you should be on your back for that whole section. They should have kept you that way, and then you go the whole ride like this. Wow. Like looking to your side, and you're like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And then you have to figure out how to get out, like, on your back. Oh, yeah. Okay, so then they have to figure out how to get out Like on your back Oh yeah Okay so then they have to build a door on it And it has to close on you And you have to bang your way out At the end So coffin challenge
Starting point is 00:43:37 We've just reinvented the coffin challenge Yeah Always my problem with doom buggies. No lid. That Bob Gurr didn't know what he was doing. So I'm very interested. The Pepper's Ghost was going to be had to be in the ceiling then or I guess
Starting point is 00:43:55 maybe to one of the sides because it couldn't be on the left when you're going down to Disneyland. Well it kind of the scrim you can see the scrim when you're on top of all the ghosts flying upwards so in the distance you can see all the ghosts flying but you couldn't put the Pepper's Ghost
Starting point is 00:44:12 I don't know I'm interested in the geography of this I was there with my family recently and through trying to get on Doom Buggies it ended up where I was in one with my brother and Jane and my dad were in one. And so, of course, me and my brother
Starting point is 00:44:29 were totally silent the whole time. And I think I leaned over at one point and went like, that one's name is Bigwick. Because, of course course I did but Jane and my dad were so excited when they got off they're like that part when you go backwards you see the side of the house I never noticed that before
Starting point is 00:44:54 and honestly I had to go back and look it up I hadn't really noticed either that you can see the side of the actual mansion but did either of them talk about Pickwick uh no I can't imagine side of the actual mansion. But did either of them talk about Pickwick? No, I can't imagine. Well, that's the only way to
Starting point is 00:45:10 ride. Next time, everybody start whispering stuff to each other. Whoever you're with. Next time we go. Well, there you go. So we didn't get to actually be buried alive. You don't go on your back. You comfortably sit for the rest of it. You get an appearance from the raven. One of the many raven appearances.
Starting point is 00:45:26 And this is really good. Yeah. The raven. I really, the raven, I forget the raven's there almost every time. So it gets you? I'm not scared. I just go, yeah. The raven's there.
Starting point is 00:45:40 That's nice. You do the move when like an Everclear song is on at a restaurant. Listeners don't get to see it, usually. Okay. My next Merkle point. Oh, yeah. Wow, it's like you're in the lobby of a courtyard by Marriott with Mike. Everclear's cover of Brown Eyed Girl
Starting point is 00:46:05 They wrote a new intro for it The other thing when you're going backwards Next to the raven Scary Trees, your favorite Scott Big shout out for Scary Trees Yeah Hang on now. Let's not support them too much.
Starting point is 00:46:28 They don't bother me too much because they don't talk. We're not in that Wizard of Oz, you know. If they, if they, no dialogue for that. As long as they never, that's a plus up I don't ever want. Is for them to talk? Yeah, yeah. No, keep them silent. What if they did the E.T. effect?
Starting point is 00:46:47 And you kind of give your name at the start of the ride. And then the trees are like, Scat. Scat. Friend. Friend. Person. Person.
Starting point is 00:47:06 The afterlife is just me and you I'm gonna be there throwing apples at ya yeah you should see cause yeah if you were going to the afterlife it shouldn't be trees it should be like little devils on the right or little angels I guess
Starting point is 00:47:21 depending I guess you could yeah that would be a plus-up where you would flip them out sometimes. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Sometimes on a mansion you get little devils, sometimes you get little angels. Wow. It decides for you? Yeah, it's random.
Starting point is 00:47:39 It's like the end of Radiator Springs Racers. Sometimes you lose. Sometimes you get the one you didn't want. Would you prefer if they replaced the trees with Little Devils or Little Angels? Maybe for the oddity of it, sure. But then, you know, maybe not because at some point in the nearish future, I'll be taking my son on there and i don't know if i want oh i think i want the motive like you we've chosen hell for you
Starting point is 00:48:11 yeah that's a little intense i guess okay but next car is heaven next car is a better kid he gets heaven what if the little devils are hot stuff of old devil and the angel is the biblically accurate angel which is like the floating eye and the tentacles and it says be not afraid
Starting point is 00:48:32 because then it's then it's like a good it's a lesson it's historically accurate I mean the angel part I guess hot stuff hot stuff's just fun it's historically accurate I mean the angel part I guess Hot Stuff Hot Stuff's just fun
Starting point is 00:48:48 it's just fun to see him yeah well they got a branding deal to work out I guess I don't know who owns Hot Stuff that's amazing is that something
Starting point is 00:48:56 I can ask the audience who owns Hot Stuff who owns Hot Stuff Double yeah who owns Harvey Comics at this point that's a good question they got Hot Stuff they got Baby Huey.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Casper. Richie. Dreamworks. Dreamworks owns Harvey, huh? That's right. They did all those cartoons that we all remember. Also, what's on your shoulders? I got a Ghost Mickey from Tokyo Disneyland.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Whoa. Oh, nice. And a Gelatoni as a pumpkin from Hong Kong Disneyland. Wow. A Gelatoni and a Ghost Mickey on Tokyo Disneyland. Whoa. Oh, nice. And Jelatoni as a pumpkin from Hong Kong Disneyland. Wow. Jelatoni and a Ghost Mickey on his shoulders. Great job. Glad we could shout out another costume. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Let's do it. Wow. Big round of applause. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Oh, everybody's nervous. We didn't know Jelatoni was in the building.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Fellas, hide the ladies. Gelatoni's here. By that, you mean Dr. Lily Houghton? Is that her name? That was her name, yeah. Oh, okay, great. Gelatoni's going to go find those Lily Houghton dolls. Keep them in the packages.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Do we move on? Are we off of the downhill? This is the first time. I don't know. Trees, I mean, okay, yeah. Let's go over it. Trees we talk about.
Starting point is 00:50:16 We talk about going on your back. Being generally, being backwards, yes. How do you feel about being backwards? It's cool. It's nice that the ride can do it for me.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Because this is, I really think this is, we've taken this for granted after all these years. I bet this blew people's mind when they went on this first, that this vehicle could do things. Because in the same way, oh my God, the trackless rides, there's just, oh wow, look what this can do. I'm sure people were like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:50:47 This thing turns around and flips you right back. Going backwards with elevation. Yes. With an incline. Two things. Two. It does two things. And it has a decent amount of wraparound
Starting point is 00:51:02 so you can do some awkward team making out. Well, this is... That came up in the first year. This is the most romantic part of the ride. The downhill? Oh, yeah, because it kind of, like, clunks you back. Oh, that's true. This is, like, romantic comedy
Starting point is 00:51:19 city here. If you are not... Like, you better be prepared when you do this if you know what's happening. Like you better not go on with your crush if you're not prepared. Okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:35 You better not go on with your brother or your boyfriend's dad. You gotta be you gotta know what's coming. Will that new movie, will Sidney Sweeney and Glenn Powell,
Starting point is 00:51:49 the guy I know, will they go on this ride? Well, you think they're a couple, but watch out. So they're gonna go on the Haunted Mansion? They're gonna go on the Haunted Mansion
Starting point is 00:52:01 and maybe they'll get stuck on the decline. Oh, getting stuck on the decline. Oh, getting stuck on the decline with your crush? Get out of here. Oh, my God. He's so stressful. Wait, I thought you were saying it was a good thing. Oh, no, I would...
Starting point is 00:52:19 Not good at all. Then you're going to kiss? Ew. No, thank you. Let's use this time wisely and figure out our itinerary for the rest of the day. Oh, I think my Disneyland app still works. Let me get it out, see if those dining reservations are available. Oh, not yet.
Starting point is 00:52:40 I better check over and over again. Until the ride works. Turning the other way as far as I can. Can I pull this bar off me entirely? Can I sneak up into the tree break? Did they say the ride's starting? Oh no, I must have misheard. I'll ask this gravedigger for help.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Excuse me, good sir. Yeah, so is there a more romantic motion on a ride vehicle in the history of rides than this? Just gently moving, maybe? Clunk. I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm just saying, of all the ride systems, is there one that sort of like forces you sort of in a position I think that's a good number two The old Matterhorn. Lapstradler. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Wait, let's demonstrate in case they don't know. Here, let's do it. Oh. We should ride separate, I think. Party of one, please. Party of one, yeah. You'll enjoy the ride better. So yeah, okay, Matterhorn, but Matterhorn... Matterhorn is more like erotic. And not... Hold on. Hold on. Explain eroticism to us.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Hold on. That's a... Okay. The Matterhorn, it's all about vibration and aggressiveness. And it's like... That's like just having aggressive sexual intercourse. Fun in Mansion is it swings you around, you lower. That's romantic.
Starting point is 00:54:54 This is aggressive. It really seems like you're trying to get us to recognize you as a sexual being right now. Thank you for recognizing me as a sexual being. In terms of romantic, there's literally a Little Mermaid ride where you very
Starting point is 00:55:15 slowly go by the kiss the girl scene. How romantic. That's a pretty romantic song. It's the same ride vehicle, and there are similar moves in it, but I just... It doesn't do it
Starting point is 00:55:31 for me. There is a Caribbean crab singing at a teenager. Yeah. Keep in mind that part. You know what it is? There's too many robots around there. Haunted Mansion, you're just seeing that raven.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Oh, there's some privacy. It's more chaste. And it's dark. It's dark in there, too. The kiss a girl scene is very well lit. So you're not getting that mood. People can see. The little turtles can see. They'll see.
Starting point is 00:56:05 That might be for someone a little bolder. But for my preference, I prefer the backwards. I want to mention this for a romantic movement. Okay, so most of sweeping movements, most romantic ride
Starting point is 00:56:20 there is, part of a ride that there is, except that in the dead center of it, there's a car that there is, except that in the dead center of it there's a CAR! If you can ignore that, pure romance. He's just cheering me on. It's not true, look at me! You're a sexual being! Car!
Starting point is 00:56:43 Car! Car! Car! Car! Okay, okay. You're a sexual being. Okay, okay. I think we're moving on, but just to like... Can you say something? I just can't. The romance is just too much. I'm getting flustered.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I want to, just before we move to another part of the ride, there's one more bit of business. I wanted to talk about some ride before we backtrack into this, because there is something else that was a lingering thing from last year's episode. Because between last year's episode and this year,
Starting point is 00:57:12 a big something happened in Haunted Mansion world. Haunted Mansion the movie came out. Yeah. How about everyone cheer as much as you liked it? Yay! Okay, huh? Mixed. Interesting mix. Well, another thing that was mixed
Starting point is 00:57:30 were our guesses as to how many skulls out of ten we would give this film. We didn't. It was just a guess, just based on rumors. We hadn't even seen a poster. There was no real way to know, but we were like, let's guess for next year. Here were our
Starting point is 00:57:45 guesses. Mike thought he would like the movie 6.5 skulls out of 10. I guessed 3.5. My rationale being it is a product being released in this year by the Walt Disney Company. Jason, 8 skulls out of 10. 8 skulls. Jason
Starting point is 00:58:05 8 skulls out of 10 8 skulls would we all like to say what we officially give the movie out of 10 skulls yeah I'll go first I haven't gotten around to it yet
Starting point is 00:58:22 I don't know also no Mike I'm after Yellowstone I will watch it there's a lot going on it's just that you have all that literally anything else to do yeah it's true as well I had a little evening nap
Starting point is 00:58:50 after the Phillies lost last night hold on isn't that just going to bed no I woke up for a couple hours what time were we talking well it was a 2.05 game local time couple hours, then we went for a few hours. What time were we talking? Well, it was a 2.05 game local time, so it was probably about, I think I
Starting point is 00:59:10 slept from like 5 to 8. Or 5 to 8.30. Wow. That's a long, God. My kid's not even taking naps anymore. I would kill him for that long of a nap. And my 3-year-old who lives in my house.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Yeah. And I just found out through my watch that they lost again tonight. So, I know. They got more chances. They got more chances. It's okay. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:59:37 You're going to make it through the rest of this one? You're going to be okay? Yeah, we'll see. At least we don't have a second show or anything. Let me, here's, uh, I know I lied a little bit. I've seen some of the movie. I've seen the first three
Starting point is 00:59:53 seconds of the movie, and I saw it, uh, because someone alerted me that at the beginning of the movie, there's Disney, Disney Plus has the warnings, and it's PG-13, and this scene may contain such and such. This movie has so much product placement
Starting point is 01:00:10 that literally there's a warning on Disney Plus that is warning, this film contains product placement. Wow. That is unheard of in the history of movies. I have never heard of that.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Well, keep in mind, they had to go through the governing body of themselves, Disney. Like, this didn't pass through some FDA outside body. They were just like, God, even for us, this is a lot. Oh, that's the type of warning you get printed on a sign at Staples Copy and Print Center. Literal dialogue from the film. This is, if I could just really quick, and I credit Screen Rant for this information, if you wouldn't mind me reading to you some of the product placements that occur in Haunted Mansion. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:12 2023. Most of them I don't have in context. I just have the products themselves. Here we go. U-Haul, BMW, Dell, Pentax Camera, Fujifilm, Tito's Vodka, Budweiser, Jose Cuervo, Fritos those ones we know are all real because that's who has the liquor licenses in the Disney parks. It's a general partnership there. Crocs, Zillow, Yelp, Benihana, Chevrolet, Apple Watch, Black Panther the movie, Marvel Comics
Starting point is 01:01:41 collector's edition Monopoly, Costco Cannon Burger King, Zatarain's New Orleans-style Creole seasoning. Zatarain's. Zatarain's, thank you. I had a feeling. Should've looked it up. Yankee Candle, which is purchased via subscription on Amazon.
Starting point is 01:02:04 There's a part where Tiffany Haddish wants a ghost to write a message, Yankee Candle, which is purchased via subscription on Amazon. There's a part where Tiffany Haddish wants a ghost to write a message, quote, using this pen and pad I bought from CVS. And finally, the emotional crux of the film occurs during a dramatic monologue about how Lakeith Stanfield's wife died on the way to Baskin-Robbins. I think maybe all of us guessed many too many skulls. Wow. I mean, I've read that list a few times
Starting point is 01:02:40 and every time just makes me want to watch it more. It also makes me go like, oh, that company is still around. Okay. Dell computers hanging in there. All right. Well, beware if you try to watch it because it's dark.
Starting point is 01:02:59 It's a dark film. And I don't mean like the themes. I mean, it is so hard to see. What's happened, Disney? All just color, all our iPhones have it. We'll do it for you. and I don't mean like the themes I mean it is so hard to see what's happening Disney all just color all our eye photos have it we'll do it for you give me a couple bucks I'll brighten the movie it's so weird
Starting point is 01:03:13 anyway that's my weird I wanted to get a little of that out because the Hauntcast season will not be going too much longer we got a couple more episodes on the pod but we aren't doing an episode about the movie because we don't want to be sad. And we all know
Starting point is 01:03:32 it is, everyone agrees it is much more important to talk about Harrison Ford and Calista Flockhart's Halloween costumes. Yes. Great. Everyone agrees. The Reddit agrees. Our Reddit can't wait for it. They are every minute closer to it we get.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Good news, foolish mortals. It's already in the can. Okay, back to the ride. To the caretaker. Can we see it still in the caretaker mic? Let's see our pal. He is the shaky knee guy. He is holding
Starting point is 01:04:10 a lantern. He's got a trusty dog and a trusty shovel. He's great. It's a moment, Mike, of intimacy. You get so close to this character. You sense emotion emotion this is no
Starting point is 01:04:28 cold distance not like all those presidents you sit really far away from and all the presidents who aren't feeling anything in particular this guy's scared and you can tell yeah he's scared because he just discovered that you were in the middle of intimacy look at that face that's the middle of intimacy.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Look at that face. That's the face you would make. This guy is great. I feel like in some ways he's sort of like not as celebrated as some of the other characters in the ride because he's not a ghost. But he's iconic.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Let's celebrate a ghost. Yeah. But he's iconic. Yeah. Let's celebrate a non-ghost. Celebrate that. We can do it. Everyone here, a round of applause for this robot. Lit by regular light as opposed to black light.
Starting point is 01:05:18 A lot of the others lit differently. One of the few living things in the mansion. That's true. He's organic matter. Can't see through him. Not at all.
Starting point is 01:05:33 The dog is malnourished and I don't care for that. Yeah, I gotta feed the dog more. That has nothing to do with anything. He doesn't look like that because he's scared. Something happened. So you can at least surmise from the picture here that he's scared. Something happened. So you can at least, you can surmise from just the picture here that he's a bad owner.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Unless, what if they're meeting for the first time right now? No, no. That's his dog. That's what I've always felt. But since I like this guy, I don't want to go throwing accusations at him. I don't want to take him to PETA.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Jason, do you think that's his dog? I think it's his dog. They seem acquainted. He's already a bad owner then. Two out of three say. Yeah, because he's not looking at the dog. So if the dog was just a random dog, he would be looking down like, ah, he'd be scared. And he would be saying the same thing I.
Starting point is 01:06:25 He would be like, where's your owner? They're taking such bad care of you. I mean, I feel like he's a little distracted by the graveyard jamboree. Yeah, that would probably take my attention over. Yeah, but he's not looking toward the graveyard jamboree. He's looking toward you.
Starting point is 01:06:42 He's not noticing the graveyard jamboree. He's not. I've always taken this as, at least's seen so i i take that face as he is looking at a thousand ghosts at once yeah i feel like his jaw is like jabbering like it's scared like what was that what was that he's either just seeing the ghost for the first time, or it's just like, he looks a little rough, right? He looks a little like shit. So maybe he sees the ghost every night, and he's still not used to it.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Yeah, I think he's seeing you as a ghost. That's what I think. But he's not looking toward the big party. I think he's like, oh my God, who goes there? It's a ghost, people. And they're necking. And my dog needs food, but I keep forgetting. That's not her Letterman jacket.
Starting point is 01:07:37 It must be his. She must have put it on. You think it's at you? Like, that you were so horrifying as a ghost? I believe, I think so. Because why wouldn't he be pointing the other way? He's blocked off from seeing the actual graveyard.
Starting point is 01:07:55 But I think, this to me ties into your kind of paranoid, everyone's looking at me, runner, everybody's, everyone at CityWalk will notice me throwing the mini monster away. I'm in a haunted mansion and there's many ghosts around but you are the scariest
Starting point is 01:08:16 one of all. Well, they say there's room for one more. And yeah, everywhere I go, I'm a star. These want to hug me especially Orlando I know many be wanting to hug me in Mike's defense there's a lot bigger security corridor now so they might be checking him out wait what what does that mean like there's a lot more fences and presumably cameras and metal detectors
Starting point is 01:08:48 at Disneyland. At CityWalk. At CityWalk Hollywood. We went back to CityWalk. They might be like, what is that guy being weird with the Drake? Should we keep an eye on him? Where are there more security fences?
Starting point is 01:09:01 The metal detectors are for going into the park. Yeah, I'm just saying there's more of a presence Where are there more security fences? The metal detectors are for going into the park. Yeah. I'm just saying there's more of a presence than I feel like when we did that CityWalk saga. We need to... We've gotten reports of people throwing mini monsters away. We need to put three milkshake detectors outside the store.
Starting point is 01:09:19 We gotta pat these people down, force them to finish it in the store, choke those bobas down. We need to train ten milkshake-sniffing dogs. And they need to be patrolling at all points. The dogs need to know that you can buy glass at CityWalk, but you cannot carry it 20 feet into the theme park you're probably going to.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Teach them to bark that. Let me say something else about this guy, Caretaker. He, I mean, I feel like always iconic and probably like lived as his toys or in artwork, but I think he really,
Starting point is 01:09:57 his iconic status really got sealed. I want to say it was last year that Lowe's made him available in a take-home version. Do we have a still of that? There we go. Lowe's or Wish.com?
Starting point is 01:10:18 Can we see the next still, Mike? What is this one looking at? Presumably he's going to be on your front lawn. He's looking at local teens drag racing. Oh yeah. Jay Walkers. He's aghast. Jay Walkers. Jay Walkers. He's really upset
Starting point is 01:10:45 because he's aghast at Jay Walkers. He's sort of like a nosy neighbor at this point. He's just sort of like he knows everyone's business in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 01:10:54 He's mad about the 15 year olds who are not even in costume and it's 8.30. Come on. It's too late for this. You should just put him
Starting point is 01:11:03 in like a window in your house with like the like too late for this. You should just put him in like a window in your house. With like drapes like this. So people will be, no matter what they're doing on the street, if they catch a view of him, they will be like, ah! There's a peeping Tom. He could always be watching your moments of intimacy. That's true.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Bring him home. You could do a lot with him, just not even in Halloween. You could maybe put him in a Hawaiian shirt and his glasses, put him on the beach and his glasses tip down his nose. And as people walk by, he sort of like checking them out and he can't believe what he's seeing how hot everyone is you could it's very it's it's bug eyes and white hair and I think that in non Halloween season you could easily restyle this guy to be Rodney Dangerfield put him in a Hawaiian shirt yeah and you know you put him in your yard and people ask what it
Starting point is 01:12:12 is it's right it's Rodney Dangerfield for back-to-school season oh yeah there's so many I wonder if the hat comes off. It'd be nice. Or everything, like, could you switch clothes with him? Um, I mean, presumably it's removable. Somehow. Yeah, let's see the full wardrobe. We got a brown jacket and a green
Starting point is 01:12:40 scarf and khakis. Yeah, the jacket's a little long, but I like the jacket. This guy's gonna be a little, he's not quite the size of the real one, the jacket's a little long, but I like the jacket. This guy's going to be a little, he's not quite the size of the real one, so he's going to be a little smaller than you. It's going to be a squeeze for you, Mike. Okay. He's got big pants on, though. He hasn't been to the tailor.
Starting point is 01:12:55 He does not come with a dog figure. Louis is not selling a sickly-looking dog option. That's a clue that it's his dog But you could put a minion next to him No it is, it's a clue What is a clue?
Starting point is 01:13:10 It's a clue they're not selling the dog with him Because it would not be his dog It would be a separate dog Oh, so you're saying Lowe's is really concerned about canon Well I'm saying that Lowe's knows that he's doing a bad job, so they just want to sweep it under the rug. They're not going to want the dog, right? No, of course not.
Starting point is 01:13:31 No, we're not going to sell any of these. The president of Lowe's had a meeting about this. We're not selling a groundskeeper that treats his dog poorly, so either we don't sell it, or remove the dog. And that's why you got CEO of the Year that's right stands up for his beliefs you go back to the ride picture which one the real I guess the question I have that I I'm sure we've all been wondering though is is the caretaker daddy because I mean I don't know he seems not threatening he could be nice but he seems
Starting point is 01:14:15 confident in his job well daddy seems to say you're you're attracted to the the groundskeeper whatever is that is that when you say daddy, that's what I, yeah, no, I wasn't saying he was a father. Can he get it, is what you're asking? Can the groundskeeper get it? It's hard to tell. He's so covered up. I gotta see that bod.
Starting point is 01:14:35 He dresses... I gotta switch clothes with him. I think, like, literally, like, maybe the pants, like, maybe if he just went to a tailor and got them a little bit hemmed. I do think, like, this is an outfit I would wear. So he is dressed pretty well. Like, you would think, like, he'd be all, like, much more, like, ragged and, like, his clothes would be torn asunder.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Because he's just, he's out there and he just takes care of himself. But he looks pretty good. I will give you that. I don't know that he's my, he's out there and he just takes care of himself. But he looks pretty good. I will give you that. I don't know that he's my type of guy. Let's poll the audience. Who thinks that the caretaker is daddy? Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:19 That's not nothing. Is, well, is Pickwick daddy? Yeah. Pickwick brings the party with him, doesn't he? Which character on The Haunted Mansion
Starting point is 01:15:37 is everyone most attracted to? I mean, the organist can play an instrument. That is always attractive, yes. That's pretty cool. That is always attractive. That's a good question. I mean, Hatbox has the charisma.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I know that's a little bit. That's like... Those dual guys are pretty dashing. Yeah. That's true. Constance might chop my head off. You know know fingers crossed if you're into a certain thing
Starting point is 01:16:11 Constance is probably the answer if you're ultimate fin doming murdering your husband alright All right, well I think that's my time for the evening. I should be getting to bed. Let's take to a three-hour nap with you. This liquid death makes me crazy. It's canned water. Let's put some other... What did he say about canned water?
Starting point is 01:16:48 It made him crazy. Let's throw some other characters into the possibility mill of who is daddy, I guess. Which is the weird little band. Can we see the weird little band?
Starting point is 01:17:03 Give it up for the weird little band. Can we see the weird little band? Give it up for the weird little band. Our next... And I say that because I've seen this referred to as the Phantom Five, but I've also seen the singing busts referred to as the Phantom
Starting point is 01:17:19 Five. And it's not even... It's like half and half. No one can decide which is which. So, I don't know. As with a lot of this lore, it's not even it's like half and half no one can decide which is which so I don't know as with a lot of this lore it's like good lore but it's also like pretty fuzzy right
Starting point is 01:17:32 yeah like you know nobody quite knows what they're called I don't know but we know well you know and I'm scanning them
Starting point is 01:17:39 pretty fast I don't think we got any daddies in this bunch unfortunately that's why they took up music. They had to offer something else to the world. If I can take a step back, because you brought up confusing
Starting point is 01:17:51 lore. Did you guys see all the names for the caretaker? Sure. Yes. Let's backtrack. Fine. Let's go back. Rewind. Get back on your back. Rewind. I already, on your back. Rewind.
Starting point is 01:18:06 I already, it's fine. I will tell you, where I was thinking maybe, optimistically we get is Singing Bus. I'm watching that dream dissipate. It is floating away. So, names,
Starting point is 01:18:21 names. Silas Crump? This is another one. It's everybody's Crump. Everyone on this rideas Crump this is another one everybody's Crump everyone on this ride is Crump Alistair Crump and these guys this little band
Starting point is 01:18:31 they're all named Crump everyone in this thing is Crump who are the two guys shooting at each other it's Aloysius Crump and Foggin' Bottom Crump I don't think
Starting point is 01:18:42 I like the lore this is what I've learned after six years Crump Crump Crump Christmas Christmas with the Crumps I don't think I like the lore. This is what I've learned after six years. Crump, crump, crump. Christmas with the crumps. It would have... That's what I'm saying. It would have made the Eddie Murphy movie
Starting point is 01:18:53 a little more dynamic if the crumps showed up. I think I had trouble being dynamic. They all farted each other. They all make up fun of. What's more dynamic than that? Okay. Also, there's some special where Phyllis Diller calls him
Starting point is 01:19:09 Clyde. Ken, we're all over the map. There's a model from, I believe, the 70s where he is referred to as a grave robber. Oh, that adds something to it, doesn't it? Oh, I didn't see that. Well, let's, I guess, yeah, he's got the shovel.
Starting point is 01:19:26 So he's obviously digging. It's either, is he doing it virtuously or is he doing it for his own nefarious deeds? I think it's virtuously because he doesn't have a sack. If he was going to grave rob, you would need a sack to take the stuff, you know? Not if he's going to dig them up and then do something with them. No, no, no, no, no. And then put them back. There's no need to be bawdy. Jason said grave robber, not grave fucker.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Yeah. Grave robber's fun. The other one, no. There's a number of comic book short stories with conflicting like they hire a younger caretaker and then he gets his old job back.
Starting point is 01:20:20 I can't believe I thought we were out of this. I was like there was no pushback. There were no comic stories. I thought we were out of this. I was like, there was no pushback. There were no comic stories. I thought we were out. What was I thinking? That's why this guy's the best in the biz. Hey. Spin it. Spin it. Spin it.
Starting point is 01:20:41 It's so much higher than you think it is. Guys, we've got to talk about something. We have to. We have time to talk about the Phantom 5. We do. And you know what else I think we have time to do is to play my favorite little part of Gurning Ghosts. There's a little video,
Starting point is 01:21:00 and I think to the extent that anyone wants to. Well, at one point in in time they had 30 tracks And they recorded 42 So you're gonna have to go through all of those Yes definitely I'm just saying it's my favorite part And I feel like maybe the Munsters should dance to this song Can you put on the song?
Starting point is 01:21:18 Oh we're gonna do a little dance? Yeah we're gonna do a little granddad dance Hold on Oh my god it's not working. Yeah, there we go. You can just spin the propeller around. Oh yeah, that's it. I just wanted a quick hit of that.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Great. Oh, the leader does stuff, that's it. I just wanted a quick hit of that. Great. Oh, the leader does stuff. Wow. Hey. I'll just go bold. Thank you for that. That's my favorite iteration of Grim Grinning Ghost. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:54 I have notes about Grim Grinning Ghost. These are also clearly going out the door. That's how much these things expand. Well, it's a fine place to start up next year. But we're not done. We're not done yet. Go back to the Phantom Five. Let's talk about them.
Starting point is 01:22:12 I mean, my question about them is, were they musicians in our world? Or were they a band first, and they died all together in a bus accident or something. Did they die? Was this the day the music died? Yeah, it's the day
Starting point is 01:22:29 that the music died. Oh, musicians. They were all on one plane. I think, yeah. They were on an airplane getting ready for their lute, bagpipe, and oboe show.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Big tour. Yeah, theyoe show. Big tour. Yeah, they were doing a big tour. And, yeah, I mean, I guess it brings up the question that can ghosts learn? And that's why he's the best. It's pretty heavy. Oh, no. It's pretty heavy.
Starting point is 01:23:15 We can all sit and think about it. You think when the moon rises, when the clock strikes midnight, they, like, get memento disease and forget everything? Every day? Or they forget the afterlife? And then they...
Starting point is 01:23:32 Learning is so vague. You learn little things all day, every day. I hope you learn in the afterlife. Can you learn a skill if you're a ghost? Or is it like Groundhog Day? Or sort of... Although he learns. That's exactly, yes. He does learn.
Starting point is 01:23:48 He becomes an incredible musician. He remembers. Yeah, I think it's that. I think you get to Groundhog Day. It's a Groundhog Day that you have no hope of escaping. There's no rom-com ending for your Groundhog Day. So you better learn every instrument. Because ghosts, yeah, ghosts
Starting point is 01:24:05 seem tortured. Because they're stuck there. They have unfinished business. But if you could occupy your time learning new skills... I have so much stuff. You can watch Yellowstone season one through whatever it is. Five? Six?
Starting point is 01:24:21 So you're saying the afterlife is good because you get to get caught up on your shows. Yeah. Knock out the curriculum of ITT Tech. The world is your oyster at that point. Yeah. The world is your community college. The afterworld is your community college.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Care conditioning, repair, and private investigator. There's time for it all. These guys are proof. I don't know. It's possible they couldn't play a lick. And all it took was 900 years. And now they can play one song over and over again. I like that long horn.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Yeah, yes. That's funny looking. Yeah, I think there's the specific here that a lot of the music was played backwards. That's a way that it's weird and ghostly. They transcribed it and ran it backwards. It's got this weird little sucking effect to a lot of the melodies. I think it's not a bagpipe. It's an oboe in reverse.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Because I guess bagpipes are tough to play. I think even finding a session bagpipe player is a very tough thing. In the 60s, let alone now. I don't know the market today. Some of the stuff is played out of tune on purpose. Oh, there you go. Unsettling, sure. Proper tune age. tune on purpose. Oh, there you go. Unsettling, sure. Oh, wrong.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Proper tune age, that's the land of the living musicians. It's all creaky around here. You also, I think maybe my favorite musical little thing or section in any of the Grim Grinning Ghosts
Starting point is 01:26:03 versions in the ride is probably when a little trumpet comes in. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And that's fun. Thank you. I'll learn it better in the afterlife. But I learned
Starting point is 01:26:18 who played the music on the thing. A lot of the musicians you're hearing are all these Benny Goodman kind of guys. But the guy who plays that little trumpet part, his name is Cappy Lewis, and he made an album called Get Happy with Cappy. Cappy!
Starting point is 01:26:37 I definitely got happy looking at Cappy. Look at that watch he's wearing. Wow. You don't get a watch like this being a mediocre trumpet player. I'll tell you that. This is great.
Starting point is 01:26:50 I love he's wearing almost like a bowling shirt. Like a red bowling shirt. This feels very Jason-esque, too. I feel like. I mean, look, we'll start next year with an hour on Cappy and his various endeavors. I mean, we can go back to simple assignments.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Next year, we can, as much as I loved the boxes and what you're wearing, maybe next year we go back to a simple shout-out of Cappy. Yeah. We come up with our favorite song of his, and then we learn that he was nicknamed
Starting point is 01:27:22 Cappy the Killer after bodies were found in his yard. If you were a musician, a male musician in the 60s, chances are you were a murderer. It's just how
Starting point is 01:27:39 it is. Well, I don't know exactly what else we have time for. I don't know. I mean, look, there was the whole, like, they announced, like, changes to the Haunted Mansion queue. Mm-hmm. There's a, like, there's a. I wasn't sure if you pulled something up or not, and then the audience response was like.
Starting point is 01:28:00 People seem upset by that. There's a gift shop coming next year, too. Mm-hmm. People seem upset by that. There's a gift shop coming next year, too. The gift shop, of course, is outside of the confines of the ride. Literally, we're looking at the exit of the ride. So that is not something we will need to discuss. Well, eventually. Just let me try.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Let me try, please. So I kind of wanted to propose next year we take a break from the graveyard and we go right to the new queue and the gift shop. Because it's going to be so fresh. Thinking outside the box. It's going to be fun to sort of take a quick break from the whole way we've been doing it. Who knows what new feature on the Disney Play app will be integrated in this gift shop.
Starting point is 01:29:01 It'll overeat your phone in all sorts of new ways. What kind of spirit jerseys will they sell? Can I hide in a cape for a year? Oh, trust me, I've tried. Well, okay, look, you guys, you know, you filled the assignment. I was delighted by your fulfilling of the assignment, so I guess whatever we want to do next year but I let me let me just say this um and this is like
Starting point is 01:29:30 you know I'm looking at a clock that's that's winding down I know we're ticking down here and we got another show to do so I and I had no fantasy that tonight would be the end of the entire thing of course not I know that I'm no fool. But I, you know, just imagine for a second while we have an audience here, just hypothetical, imagine if we could all be together for the moment where we finally finished
Starting point is 01:29:55 this series. Wouldn't that be cool? To like, shall share that together? Sure, yeah. Yes! We can totally agree on that. But I, you know, that's just a thing to imagine. That's just kind of a thing to like brainstorm because like we're ticking down, right? And you know, it's not like you could possibly
Starting point is 01:30:13 finish the rest of the ride in just, I don't know, exactly 26 seconds, right? Unless. No. Mike, could you play that video? What? Just click on the video, see what's there. Scott sent me a video and said, don't watch it.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Yeah, just watch it now. Here we go. Okay, alright. Oh, it's one of his missed videos. Five singing busts from the iconic song Grim Grinning Ghost. No. This doesn't count. I can't even understand what he's saying. involving many spirits set behind a number of scrims. There's a tea party, a beheaded guy, a Viking lady, all kinds of shit. The ghost host returns to warn us of hitchhiking ghosts. So we soon meet Ezra Bean, Professor Thingis' son,
Starting point is 01:30:49 and Gus, what funny names. In a series of mirrors, the ghost appears to follow us home. We climb off our dune bunnies and step onto a moving ramp where we see a small ghostly bride who tells us to hurry back. The ramp leads to the exit, and that's the haunted mansion. Thank you. Wow. I knew we could. I knew we could.
Starting point is 01:31:46 The guy from the Oscars held up the Hauntville open and said Haunted Mansion is done. That means it's official. We got to do it together, guys. Nice try, champ. That video didn't even include the phrase Ned Nubber Uncle Theodore. You know what? That video was very nice.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Yeah, I thought so. I liked the effort. Went over pretty well, yeah. And it's official and binding. And what I think is nice about it is actually it sets perfectly up next time for us to talk about the new gift shop. And the new queue. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You're saying that by exiting, I have actually reset it, which makes it more justified to go back?
Starting point is 01:32:30 Yeah. So what we'll just do is we'll do the gift shop, then we'll go to the queue, and then, yeah, we'll go through and see what we missed. Yeah, because we barely touched on the various types of audio recording and playback, analog and digital. So, yeah. So this is perfect. Thank you for that nice little video. Thank you so much. Let's have a round of applause for the nice little video.
Starting point is 01:32:59 That's perfect. That's perfect. Okay. Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, it was nice. That's why you guys are the worst. All right. That's perfect. Okay. Glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, it was nice. That's why you guys are the worst. All right, that's our show. You survived OnCast The Fright, ladies and gentlemen.
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