Podcast: The Ride - Hiccup’s Wing Gliders, Oscars Insider, Hit The Bricks Iger

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

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because he is me. It's hiccups wing gliders, Oscar's Insider. Hit the bricks, Iger, on Podcast the Ride. Welcome to Podcast the Ride, a theme park podcast hosted by three men who could not train a dragon

because they can't even train their brains to not have intrusive thoughts. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me, as always, Jason Sheridan. Look, the thoughts are kind of heavy hitters, you know? You're saying your specific thoughts are, mine are all over the voice. Sometimes they're not heavy.

Sometimes they're just like, you should have taken a right instead of a left. And that when you were trying to get to that store you were going to. Yeah. You missed out on a deal for an Iron Man toaster. Yeah, right. It was red. It had the yellow trim on it. It looked cool.

Or even more accurate, maybe like you, you missed out on looking at a current deal for a toaster that you are not interested in buying. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they can be all sorts of things. and I can't turn them off. I cannot train myself to not think about it. Well, you're just, that's one of the hardest things I think that there is to do. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's here as well, as always. I am. Well, you say that again, but it is, it is not been.

I know, I know. Well, maybe it will be now. That's, that's the thing. I feel like perhaps I am, I am back back, I think, after my. I'm thinking I'm back. Is what you're saying? Yeah. I'm thinking I'm back.

No, I believe that my extended flirtation with a shiny man called Oscars now has now come to a close. Are they thinking- For now? For now. We'll see. I don't know. I don't know where things go. What if they pick up the Oscars weekly? What if they do a weekly Oscars?

This is all like- Because then you're busy a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm hopeful. I mean, it makes sense to do a series order. You know, there's high name recognition.

They seem to do well. I think it only makes sense. to do a weekly Oscars. Yeah, yeah, I think so. And, you know, it's also, it's so exciting. It's getting close to the 100th. It was the 98th that just aired on Sunday. And, you know, we want to get to 100 quicker.

We want to get to 200. We want to get to 300. Yeah, of course. You can really stack those stats if he started doing weekly Oscars. Right. And then Oscar Origins, the series about the origin of the guy. We don't know how he got his sword, do we? We don't. But anyway, congrats on the other Oscars coming on.

Thanks, Mike. I appreciate it and thanks Jason for kind words too. No, thank you. This was unbelievable. I can't speak to the pieces or how they turned out or anything, but as far as an experience, it managed to be even better than last year, which was saying something because that was maybe like number one non-child-related life event. And somehow the number one got topped again.

It was insane and wonderful. I guess if you're just tuning in, you were the segment director. Is that the official title? segment director. Yes. I don't know, you know, that's what it was in the credits. I got a big old credit again, which is cool. Yeah, that's becoming the thing, I guess. Pre-tapes, segments, whatever you want to call them. I'm slinging segments left and white, left and right. It is, no, it has been a most blessed award season for me, which I really appreciate. Going back to, we never even talked about Golden Globes, which came out of nowhere, very top of the year, all of a sudden, with The fastest turnaround ever, I got contacted by the Nikki Glazer people and got to make a thing that was super, that was just like pure positive front to back, loved everybody who was part of that. Snuck, Griffin Newman in there.

Oh, yeah. I say snuck as if that was like a, they didn't know. Somebody was going to have an issue with that. It was, if you didn't see that sketch, it was a, it was a sketch. It was the AMC Nicole Kidman, uh, uh, uh, ad essentially, but for a podcast because they had a new podcast category. And the script called for a, uh, a super annoying. add for bombus that you have to skip through rapid fire. And I thought, I know the voice for this one.

Sure. We know the guy. And I was like, you never know when you're like trying to like pitch somebody up the flagpole. You don't know what's going to be in the other end or if the writers have other ideas. In that case, I sent the email saying, you know, it would be perfect for this, Griffin Newman. The head writer, Sean O'Connor had been listening to, he got out of his car listening

to Blank Check right then and there. Wow. The Ella McKay episode, I want to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he was mainlighting Ella McKay and immediately got an email saying, what about Griffin? He said, absolutely Griffin. That worked out. That was so fun. I had like a little bit of downtime after that, but it was downtime that I didn't want because by January, I was chomping at the bit, you know, I was ready to go. And that's so the whole thing like last year felt like it went pretty good and like everybody's happy and we certainly all had a really good time doing it.

and it seemed like this year was going to work out too. But throughout the year, and especially by January, I would start checking in or start, I'd be texting a little bit with the other people involved in this thing with Chris the DP and Trevor the producer and Dylan, the production designer. And every once in a while we'd check in and we go, I hope we're all seeing each other soon.

I hope they want to do it. I hope we're going to do it. And I hope they want to go bigger. That was a refrain that everybody said separately, really hoping that. they wanted to go bigger. And then when the day came and the tablets were handed to us and we saw what we had to do, it was most certainly bigger. And it was, you know, tremendously terrifying, but also exhilarating, looking at that idea, knowing, holy shit, that's the idea. We got to rise

to the level of this idea. If you did not see it, the idea being Conan is Aunt Gladys from weapons or has been made up to look like Aunt Gladys from weapons and is chased by rabid children, not only through some of the scenarios from weapons, but also through many of the nominated films. And there were a few things that hit when you see that idea. One, of course, that is perfect. This will be incredible what an opener it's going to be.

But also, not only to have to rise to the occasion as far as weapons, which that sequence, I don't know if you guys saw it. I see it. You know, I haven't seen weapons. Oh my God. Well, I guess we spoiled the info. Did the cold open make any sense to you? Did you understand what you were looking at?

I mean, I was like guessing in the same way that when I was five and I watch the Simpsons, I was like, this is a reference of something. One day when I'm older, I'll watch. When I'm more mature, I'll be able to see this. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, from context clues. And you've seen Anglattis around. But we did, I think that's kind of an interesting thing that we attributed some endings.

We, I think, did some spoilers essentially through our sketches. We proved that we had all actually. watched the films. Yeah. That's good. Did our homework. But anyway, that ending of weapons, I thought was one of the most, like, exhilarating, hilarious things to see in a theater in the last five years of, I mean, just an incredible sequence.

So I have to rise to that level. But then on top of that, we start going into the other movies and knowing that this is finally time. We can't hide any longer. We can't wait any longer. It is time to go full crystal. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

This was, you know, which. We avoided it for too long. Last year, I felt like maybe I didn't have it together yet. Maybe I was still, I was preparing myself. I was doing weight train. I don't know if I was ready to go full crystal. Half crystal possibly. Full crystal.

You got to work up to it. But we made it. We did full crystal. Full crystal was fully crystallized. And it was cool as hell. There was the big question of how do you go full crystal in, 2026. How do you do it, first of all, without $10 million? I'll reveal

that. We did not have $10 million to do the sketch. But also, how do you do it with kind of a modern flare? How do you do it with modern technology and how do you do it in a limited amount of days? And I was very lucky to have a truly remarkable DP Chris Hamilton who had the idea right away, which was to do it on an LED

volume stage. That was the majority. That's something I'm not sure if you have if people caught that's how we do it or how we did it, which, yeah, I'm really proud to say, not that we couldn't have done some things this way, but there is not one green screen shot in that entire open. Wow. It was all LED volume,

which is the shorthand, of course, is like, you know, the Mandalorian. We did it in Mandalorian style, even though I'm sure thousands of things have now shot this way since the mandolary. But it's probably the first we were all made aware of that technology. I have said separately of any of this, months and months ago on the show, you know, just to bring it back to our world, perhaps hamfistedly, that, you know, with studio parks kind of dying and having nothing to show, we said for a long time, like, you know, you don't want to do behind the scene stuff because it's just all green screen. Now, it's not. With this volume stuff, it's not. And I've said this would make a great basis for a show for Universal Studios or Hollywood Studios or one of the strange.

European ripoffs that we talk about from time to time. And now I am so convinced of that I'm like proselytizing about this type of stage for no reason. I have nothing to gain from this. I don't own one of these stages or operate one of these stages. I'm just now such a fan. We did at a place called Fuse in Glendale. And it requires, my big question I had about it is like, that sounds really cool. But where do all those assets come from?

and like sure you can put somebody anywhere on one of those screens. Have I even explained this properly? Do people know what I'm talking about with LED volume sit? Some people probably in the audience, we have a very tech savvy showbiz audience, I think. Was it at D23? Did they set up a miniature volume? That sounds familiar, but I'm not sure. Yeah.

Well, and certainly, you know, people might know the sphere. It's like filming in the sphere. The very powerful LED screen that is, you know, It's not like the work stops. It just like throw a picture on the TV and then you're done. Like there's a ton of like dialing it in and it really only works if you've got a great DP and great lighting people, which of course we had with Chris Hamilton and his crew. But like... But the facade of the weapons house was real.

Oh, man. I'm so glad you asked that. Yeah. It is a blend. That's what's happening there. It is an actual. It is a facade. I'm...

I'll be talking to you guys. Even saying the word facade, we just... Just did some tramber. You know, I was a tour guy. You know, I care about. False front is the French word for false front. To be doing, I mean, that's the biggest facade I've ever worked with that was built specifically for that shot and then fully dismantled thrown out by the end of the day. Completely insane.

All for one shot. Dylan Hutchins, incredible production designer, really drove that. We talked about do we try to find a real house to do it? And this is, if you've seen the opening, like the very first shot where. Conan runs out of the house when the sequence really kicks into gear and kids burst through windows

behind him. We talked about trying to find a real house, but then Dylan, who bended a building, it said, yeah, but, like, how do you, like, you're not going to find a house

where it's like, hey, can we knock all your windows out and send a bunch of children through it? Like, you sort of need to design something with the stunt in mind. And then we can build it to our specifications. But then you go,

but does that look fake if you do it inside? And then we realized, okay, what you do is you put that in front of the LED screen and the neighborhood behind the facade is on the screen, and you blend that all together with light. And the same of the other one as well. Like there's an interior shot, which is very much based on weapons, where like behind the screen glass door is a backyard.

And those were photos that were taken with a really specific angle in vantage point to line up exactly with the, shot that we had planned, like an incredible amount of coordination and planning. We also had to go fishing for how did weapons do it? Because first you, all right, kids going through glass. Well, candy glass is what they use. You know, just send them through fake glass. Candy, kids love candy, right?

Eat the glass. And then they'll eat it when they're done. But even candy glass, I know just from one shot I got to do on this movie a little while ago, it doesn't always break super clean. You could still end up with a big weird chunk that can especially hurt a child. Yeah, yeah. You absolutely get hurt on the fake glass. And, you know, maybe an adult stunt man who knows what he's doing.

Now, we did have stunt people. We had like small adults disguised his children during the initial burst through. Basically, we guessed and we figured out that we did it exactly how weapons did it, which was sending stunt people through first, real children after. They take the blow, they sell it. You put some things in the windows. Mullions is the word. Millions, which are practical and just rubber and can nerda fly.

And so that gives you like your practical burst, but then the glass was all digital. So so many meetings and so much coordination to go through all this. One of the really cool things that happened night of was that we had been comparing notes with like, okay, how did weapons do it? How did weapons do it? I think we're doing it like weapons did it. I'm going upstairs, getting on the escalator to the party after the show, and I step onto the escalator right next to Zach Kregor, writer-director of weapons. And I introduced myself, he could not have been nicer,

immediately went to, wait, so how'd you do it? Here's how did you do it? And I was able to say, well, we did it with the mullions, right? Yeah, exactly. We had the mullions. We were able to talk shop about this weird specific word that I'd never heard until starting this extremely specific process. So anyways, I'm all lit up about a thousand things of that nature, this volume stage, and then all the sets and the kids.

Just quickly, let me heap praise on Conan, obviously. Sure. What I don't, I might have said something to this effect last year, because last year he, without it being planned ahead of time, dove into the body cavity of a fake naked woman. I just don't understand how somebody could be one of the greatest writers of all time and Johnny Carson and Buster Keaton all at the same time. It's a combo. When has there ever been this combination? Nobody is all of those things.

It's fucking crazy. And I don't know, maybe this is, I don't want this to be insulting, but for a guy who's been around this long to still have the same juice level. Yes. Because like, when I look back at like Letterman even hosting. the Oscars, he's like already like tired versus the 80s. Right. Yes.

So like, and he's not that old at that point in the early 90s. So I will look at Conan and I'll go, yeah, you've been around forever. But you seem almost the same to me. Yeah. It's a very impressive. If not like, better or further along. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, he's obviously been like very physical and great with, you know, he's like he's done stunts and running and dancing. throughout everything. But like he's at his, I think the top of his game is for his physical comedy. And every, every take we did, anything where there was something manic and silly and physical, he would come to monitor, want to see it, immediately clock into, here's what I could do, here's how I can improve. Sure. Thought of you guys because he's like, uh, got to get, you know, got to get those legs longer or legs, legs, legs higher arms longer. Dick Van Dyck, got to be Dick Van Dyke. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Just knowing that that's what's in his head and what he's chasing. And you can really,

you could see it for sure. He's probably the same age that Dick Van Dyke was when he started the diagnosis murder. I mean, that could be. Maybe within five or six years. Yeah. Honestly. Well, people aged differently back then also. That's true.

We've talked about that before. But I'm just, I'm impressed that he's still, he can go, he can fucking go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have, um, going, leading out to the Oscars, I have like tweaked my YouTube algorithm where now the main things. show me are Simpsons

like Golden Age compilations and old Conan bits. Well, you're in a good world. I'm just like, if I see, yeah, it's nice. If I see a Brian Stack, Artie Kendall, the ghost crooner video,

I just, I just put it on. If it's just suggested, I just watch it. Because it's like, oh, those are like two minutes, but they're so funny. Yeah, I was just doing

Walker, Texas Ranger Lever compilation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's, I think it's amazing what's happening with him now where it's just this big, vast body of work, and people are finding it from completely different angles, and there's people like us who grew up worshipping him, but then there's, like, you know, the kids on the weapons kids who we cast are all fans of him because of the podcast and his recent work. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just, yeah, it's incredible. And who, you know, and here he is now turning in, like, perfect awesome. after perfect Oscars. And it's, yeah, just so much admiration for him also. But one more area where I just want to shine a little bit of love and bear with me because this is as sincere as I can be about everything, about anything. I love the Beastie Boys with all my heart. They have always been so important to me. They will never not be heroes to me. I know every bit of that discography and the videography completely reshape my brain. Half the reason I asked my parents for a camera when I

was 14 is that I wanted to try to have as much fun as the Beastie Boys and Spike Jones were obviously having, making sabotage. It's what I've been chasing always and they inspired me so much. So as this thing gets cooking, I note Conan had referenced that he wanted the music to be something big and iconic and something really energetic and driving and probably like chasing a spiritual air to the very memorable use of cheap tricks surrender in the tonight show opening before my time I had nothing to do with that but I thought that's one of the best things ever on a on a late night show in history and I wanted to turn to rise to that occasion so when the time finally came like what do you think in music was pregnant pause he goes sabotage and I go hell fucking

yes sabotage I was sort of I was afraid to say. I was like he has to say the first pitch because I don't want to, but like the, like a couple nights prior. Oh, is that not what you were thinking? It'd be kind of an inverse. The original version. It'd be kind of interesting, you know, because it's like a power ballad kind of juxtaposed to the action. It'd be cool.

No, that had occurred to me a little bit too, but I was like too nervous to say it. Yeah, yeah. I guess, yeah, there's 15 like big anthems like that that get like everybody going. Yeah, yeah. I think so. And just like, you know, like, you also know that's going to be a, like, perfect and dynamic song to cut to. So we, now we had it in our heads, like, well, if we can get it, we'll, you know, we'll think with that in mind. And that made me add to, like, up my game another time because I wanted to make sure that this thing could be cut to sabotage, that it'd be worthy of that. It may be, like, put in shots that we're not necessarily in before just because I know the song very well and I wanted to serve as parts of the song.

day two of the shoot now we're cooking everything's going fantastic we're coming off marty supreme going into sentimental value uh which two of my favorite things in the whole piece and in between those moments an email came through the beastie boys granted permission to use sabotage they made a point of saying that they do not typically give out permission to use that song or any song but that they were doing so because of how much they love conan wow so incredible and who who wouldn't and of course. And also, and this is like also pure magic for me because like you never, I'm never editing anything with the rights to music. It's the hardest thing. It never comes up. It's like, on a fort, people do not grant that that right lightly as they shouldn't because it'll end up,

their songs will end up in a bunch of bullshit. Yeah. But this magical, this, this, this, Conan Beasty mutual admiration, which makes all the sense in the world. So now we're getting to work with sabotage, such a win, you know, really, really drives the piece. You know, incredible to have that in the arsenal. And that caused me to do one very specific thing. At the end of the one battle after another sequence, much like in the movie,

Conan was going to jump out of Benicio's car, just as Leo does. And it says, which is a great moment in the movie because it's not like a stuntman jump. It's a very, like, painful, not graceful, clunky jump. And we knew we knew we were. want to do something like that. Now, there's one thing you can't do on an LED stage, even though I've been praising the LED stages. You know, you got to get it on a real road if you want to do

something like that. But you don't want, but then it's a stunt guy. What do we do? I'm watching that sabotage video. There is a dummy drop. Oh, yeah. That is so funny and so effective. Yeah. So in the like, just chaotic little kid spirit of that video, I'm like, we got to do a dummy drop. We have to do a dummy drop. It doesn't fit into our production schedule whatsoever. I don't know how we're going to do it. I'm like, am I going to have to like fully knock this off myself? I'm like, who do I know with a red car? I thought of you, Mike, because am I going to have to call Mike, make you drive around? We'll just like lean a camera out. We'll throw a dumb. The same car, but it doesn't quite match the, uh, the, the one battle car, which we did. You can't tell in the,

in the piece because you're just seeing like bits of the car, but we did have the actual type of, I think it was a 90 Honda accord or something. It is what Benetia drove in the movie. But anyway, I'm like, come hell or high water, I'm going to get a dummy. I pitched it to Conan. I'm like, I think this thing could use a dummy. He says, no smile, all business. Dummy's always a good idea. Great.

Well, the master has spoken. This has to happen. The actual production did make it happen. We went out into the Burbank Hills, shot it running gun, no permit, just like the Beasties and Spike did back in 94. And in that moment, I'm having as much fun maybe as they were having doing that. video made me made me so happy to do it.

So that dummy drop is my my love letter to the Beastie Boys. Wow. That's great. And the whole thing is my love letter to Connor and all the great people over there and to Crystal and to PTA on the night that he won.

The whole thing was just unbelievable. So that is that. One more thing to bring it back to the PTR area of relevance. There is only you know, it can't be all victories. You can't, you can't win them all. And while I felt very good about the piece and the night,

I got to go to the Oscars, it was a date night for me and Aaron. Aaron didn't get to go last year. She came to, this was just incredible. But there is only one goal that I failed, and I came so close to it, and that's what hurts the most. I was wandering around the lobby of the Dolby Theater. I walked into something that seemed very fake fancy called the, was it, is it Rolex? Do I have the right. I think it was the Rolex lounge. It was in the Rolex lounge. It was a lot of Rolex stuff. Okay. Yeah, yeah. We almost had to put a little Rolex product placement into the piece, but it never ended up in there. That's a little different than the Comic-Con lounge. Is I usually

Matt? It's usually not sponsored by something called like roll, not like a watch company. Sure. Yeah. It's usually like the Cheetos lounge or something. Or like it's sponsored by a limited run series where, you know, the Green Lantern fights Godzilla. Yeah, yeah, perhaps. Well, actually, Godzilla has invaded the Marvel universe. Yeah, he actually has been fighting Marvel characters. Is that right? Is that? Yeah, yeah. Can we get a movie out of that? I mean, they're going to throw a lot of shit at the wall in the next so many years, I think. So perhaps, perhaps that we... It's all Toho, you know, you gotta see it comes down to the Japanese studio. Sure, sure. But there's no, there's nothing that follows the phrase Godzilla

versus that you're not happy with. No, yeah. Anything is fine. Yeah, yeah. I say this just because it was on your Roku before we started recording. The thumbnail for the movie Luck, the animated movie, Godzilla versus Luck. Godzilla versus Luck, yeah. Godzilla versus Elio. Sure. Yeah, right?

What's the phrase, Rising Tide, lifts all ships? Yeah, that's right. I think Elios, although nominated for the best animated feature. Sure. It made that cut. Godzilla versus Elio would be nominated for everything, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And hopefully I could make the cold open pair of it.

Even if we got to the F1 spot, you know. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Good spot. Fun spot. That's one thing I texted you guys this, that there was a, I mean, a lot of moments. I got to be backstage for this, a lot of cool things. But I was kind of where all the writers were.

When Sigourney Weaver was delighted to open an envelope and give an award to Avatar, Fire, and Ash, and me only went, and then people glared at me. you. Like, what's up with that? Oh yeah, that's the whole thing. No, no, no. I didn't get it at first. I was one of the people saying it doesn't have any cultural impact, but now I really love it. And Verong.

They figured it out. Nick Nick Guar got a tattoo, Varong. I haven't gotten that far, but. Thinking about it. But anyways, the thing that I didn't quite make happen, I'm in the Rolex lounge, and I suddenly found, with no time to prepare and seg myself up, I found myself literally next to the one person I wanted a photo with that evening. That person being now, as we record this, Disney CEO, Judge Tomorrow.

It occurred to me because I saw Iiger at a distance last year. And I thought this would be very interesting. And I bet, hey, as we know, Iger's in the past. I didn't want a picture with Iger. Screw that. I want incoming, incoming, chief executive daddy, Judge Tomorrow. And I was literally next to the man. and I was cycling through.

I didn't want to just improv it. I'm like, can I get my little thing in my head? Because I do have a pretty good inn. He absolutely had just seen something that I had worked on. So I had something to talk about. But then how do I pivot to like, you know, a big theme park fan and do a podcast and we, you know,

like we're really excited you're coming in there. Talk about your hot body a lot on it. There's levels to it. You know, I'm almost making fun of the people who make the comments about the hot buddy. We call you daddy and daddy. It's a long story.

That's exactly where I don't want to. So I intrusive thoughts, as you said, I intrusive thoughted my way into overthinking the moment and then sure enough, he was being led back into the theater with some other people. And I can't compete with that. You know, he's going back in to watch the Golden performance. He doesn't want to stay and talk to some dork, I assume. You could have, you're like, you could have ignored the fact that you would just done something

for the Oscars, that you're like a professional. You're, you know, on his, not an. his level in the same way, but like, you could have ignored all that and just been like, I know Paging Mr. Morrow. I know you've had some interactions with him and you're a fan of his channel. We're friends. Nate and I. I don't think I knew that this is why if you had been, if you'd been there with you could

have whispered that in my ears. We could have, like, double-teamed. But I'm just trying to think of other angles. Pageing Mr. Morrow could be a more important name to drop. Because he would, he knows for sure that. I forget exactly what their interaction was. But I feel like he, yeah, he's aware of some of that Disney content. Oh, wow.

But then it's possible. if you had said like I do podcast a ride, then game over and you're fired from any further Oscars as long as they're on ABC. Well, luckily they won't be for too long. Right. You've made...

A sweet few more years and then the Disney ban lapses once it hits YouTube. That seat content you do. That discussion of seats is disgusting. Get out of here. With your Donald's furry seat, his feathery seat.

It somehow makes me more uncomfortable. If you said fat ass, I'd be... It'll be fine with it. Act your age. Scott. Get out of here. Do not admit. He makes the sign himself on his phone, emails it.

Do not admit this man to the Dolby Theater. Yeah. Or if you were like, I'm trying to, a co-host on my podcast got a picture with a different Disney CEO last year. And I'm trying to now send one back, as they say. I'm trying to sort of answer that. We're trying to collect the mall. We're trying to collect them all.

Yeah, yeah. Try to help me out. trying to one up. Yeah. I mean, really, look, and really quick, not important, I directed the open of the show, but that doesn't hold a lot of currency in the world that I'm in really the only way

that I have any chance of standing my ground against my co-host is a picture with a live Disney CEO, and you are about to be one of those. So by the time he sees the photo, right, right, that'll be, yeah. I also, I don't think I knew it was the week. I think I may have seen his final public appearance as a lay person.

Right. I didn't realize it was because it was Tuesday, right? Or Wednesday? I don't know how it works. If it's like there's a period where they overlap or is Bob done at the end of the day and Josh starts at the end of the day? Well, you don't know. They have to trade parking keys.

They trade keys. But you know what I'm saying? Like is it Tuesday? Like is Bob done at 6 p.m. or 5 p.m. on Tuesday? And then say there's an emergency. Does Josh get the call at 9 p.m. That something's happened. Oh, maybe.

Oh, he's on call. Right. Like Red the pirate is like shooting fire out of her arms and the Disneyland Pirates of the Caribbean. And what should we do? We don't know. Josh, tell us. Oh, hey, Josh, sorry, I'm still putting a few things in a box. Oh, no, Bob, it's okay.

Take your time. I'm early. I'm early. Hey, Josh, it would mean a lot. It would mean a lot if my last day was a two-shower day. Would you mind if I use, it's like, no, Hey, it's still your office for a little while longer. Hey, I get it.

Two more for the road. Anyways, I do. That would have been the ultimate thing if I could have come back with that. And yeah, that is crazy. I really didn't know it was the week of. And I guess we should say goodbye, Mr. Eager. Thank you for your, thank you for your service. I don't, you know, it's fun.

When tomorrow got announced, I got, you guys probably did too, like a lot. a lot of texts about it, a lot of messages about it. I don't know that I had so much to say. I think people were asking, people were like wanting some insight of like, well, you guys talk about parks. What do you know about this guy? Is this a good thing that he's taken over? And you just got to be like, I don't actually know anything.

Mainly the bit with him is that a lot of people exaggerate how handsome he is. If we make fun of the comments, that's all I got. I got a message from someone that he was at Perbank's restaurant. Base Camp one time. And that's a pretty good bakery, cafe place that switches to barbecue at night. I know about base. I could tell you more about base camp.

Yeah. Dynette, I think, is the full name. Yeah, Dinette, I think, is the full name. Yeah, you don't see that word a lot today. It's kind of fun, fancy color to the name of the place. Help some stick out, A-frame, A-frame building. Interesting architecture, interesting. Yeah, and then, you know, barbecues hard to come by. It's a, you know what, this getting too complicated.

But anyway, I don't know. How do we feel about the Iger era? The Iger era, well, there's two. He's served two terms, non-consecutive terms. Oh, yeah. As all great leaders do. There's a lot of that going around lately. But yes, I think, you know, on Iger's way out, I know, the things that Jason likes sometimes infect my brain.

Jason loves to shower day, which is a comment. he made in a book, right? He wrote it in a book, I believe. Iger. Yeah. Iger. No, didn't, or it was a profile or something. Something. Somewhere. He explained that the days he really liked are when he had like a bunch of stuff to do, including like a premiere, and he would take a shower in the morning, and then he would take a shower before going to a premiere, the shower he had in his office. Yeah. And he would have a two-shower day. Which the only, you know, it being in his office is an interesting novelty. However, A lot of people do take two showered days normally.

It can happen for sure. But Jason brings up two shower day, I think. That's one of his... I don't even think I was the one who discovered it initially, was I? I don't have any memory of that. But it's stuck in my crawl. You're the one who champions it today. You're the one who keeps it alive.

So, okay, so I put together a little game. We can do this really quickly. We don't have to spend a lot of time on it. But I want to judge Iger's big... Hickups wing gliders getting real disses with... We haven't even said that. It's a really fun. Yeah,

we're getting there. We're getting there. Was a try to train your dragon reference. Of course. Yeah. That's the closest we've come to reference on the topic. The opening jokes are important because you may fully depart from, right. Big, big things are happening.

I know. So, yeah, Iger's leaving. I wanted to judge his, his big moments on the basis of how many a shower day it would have been. Oh, wow. You know? Huh. Huh.

So, and this, I mean, we can change to the scale. Sometimes it could be a, three shower day depending on how big of a deal it was. And then like, because that's his mental math is that like the, two shower day is like a big deal day. He's got a lot to do. A lot to do.

And he's got to be seen and he has to look as sharp and polished as, frankly, he always did. Yes, he did. He very put together. He did. And in an era where our CEOs, the people who really drive the economy and politics, where CEOs more and more look, what's the phrase? frightening as shit.

Haunted. Haunted. As if they have seen things. Lizard person. Can never unsee. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody, I forget, one of our friends was like, he looks like James Bond. Like, I don't know if he looks like that, but he's, you know, he's held it together.

There should be more like comments that he's like Zaddy or whatever, you know? Yeah. Well, you know, on the way out the door. Let's, yeah. Let's call him Zaddy. Yeah, the Zaddy was always there. He was always looking. He was always right in front of us. So, you know, there's a lot of acquisitions.

His first one is probably fixing the issues with Pixar and then fully buying Pixar. So I think that's a good, that's a good day for the company, whether we've liked exactly what's happened to Pixar over the years or not. I mean, I think that's solidly a two-shower day. Yeah. Has to be. Would you notch it up to three? Well, of all the acquisitions, I bet that's the most showers in the day. So maybe that's seven showers or six showers.

I think the confusing thing is that, yeah, I think you have to judge what shower day it is on its own merits. Yeah. And the promise at the time. Because while, you know, not, Pixar has not been as consistent over the last 10 years. Yeah. That's, that's, now we're dealing with the showers of the last decade. We should be focusing on the showers of 2005-2006. Right.

Or I assume somewhere in this list is Lucasfilm. Of course. And, you know, God knows that's been embattled in various ways, but also very financially successful, even in the ones where people cannot decide on the quality. So you can't take the showers away from him just because one of the movies didn't work or something. When did he take over officially? Bob? Yeah. Yeah.

Was it 2005? Five, I believe you. Five. Okay. when was the Pixar acquisition? Sure, the next few, within like a few years, I believe. It's one of his first stacks, I want to say. Right.

Okay. So, I mean, that's... I'm just wondering if he had to get comfortable in the office and was still making it his own deed. Do you have to work up to two showers? And when were the showers installed? Were the showers even available to him? Was he like...

The spoils of his success. Hey, I got to leave early. I got to go home, take a shower, put the... tucks on. They're like, Bob, you have a shower right there? He's like, oh my God, and I went to Friar Tux last night to pick up my tuxedo. Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know. I don't know if he expanded on that. Clearly a Friar Tux guy. I must have been a friar tux guy. Clearly rental guy. So, yeah, I mean, I think Pixar's the most showers. I think maybe Fox released showers because there's a lot of debt. I mean, a lot of these things were expensive. And I think that's

Saddle Disney with debt right before pandemic. Here's what I, I guess to poke at the game a little bit more. Go ahead. Is it more? Because for him, he probably, he took as many showers as he wanted to. Are we depriving him showers because, or are we saying, well, think about what actually Fox loaded the company with. Shouldn't you have only taken one shower that day?

We can't change how many showers he took. We can't change how many showers we took, but we're using the idea of taking showers on a one to whatever scale to rate the decision. I think that's what we're doing. We can't go back in time and take away his showers. We seem reticent to go more higher than two. Yeah, I think we have to. At some point, we're going to.

But you already said you think Pixar is the most showers at two. Well, what was the most celebrated? I feel like that was pretty like, all right, they saved it, they got it, they saved their relationship. I think it goes in order of his acquisitions. of success, honestly. I think it's Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, Fox. I think it goes in that.

So I think it would have to be, if we're using, taking a shower on a scale of one to ten, that would have to be the most showers with Pixar and the least showers with Fox. Okay. I think. I see. We haven't, though, discussed length of shower,

which throws the whole thing because like a big, you know. Now we're just getting complicated. No, I realize, hold on here. But hear him out. I'm trying to find some wiggle room here because with the reticence that I'm feeling to say anything past two showers. I think that this gets us a little bit of, you know, like broader reach as far as how to measure the account because Pixar is a big one. Is that like, does he take a 20 minute and then an extra eight? Right.

Whereas Foxes also could be a two shower day, but that's like a minute and then a quick rinse off. Right. And also like does it, does he groom himself in the shower? or something. Is it one of those showers where you're also doing some self-grooming so it lasts longer as well? Oh, we try electric razor. You know, you use in the sink. Use that sink.

Use that shower. I don't think I do any grooming in the shower. Really? No, whatever. What do you do? Because a lot of grooming involves electricity. Well, it depends what you're grooming. And battery.

It's a battery charge device. Sometimes you got a little... It still feels weird to me. I'm not taking batteries in the shower. No, I'm not taking... I mean, a little scissors sometimes perhaps to trim certain hair. But not just what you're thinking. It could be underarm.

It could be other places. I'm not using an electric razor or anything in the shower. I did the other day. While the water was running? Yeah. Because it's wet. And you can dry shave or wet shave. I guess if it has a battery and it says it's safe for that.

Yeah, encased. It says it used in the shower. You were shaving your face in the shower while the water. water was running. Yeah. Really? I mean, it's one of those handheld showers, so it wasn't directly on it, but... Hmm.

I don't do that. But I will sometimes get in the shower and, like, do a quick once over with... Safety rate, yeah, like, I always raised. I've done that in the shower, too. But doesn't it still... Are you right? I see what you're saying that a battery is safe, but does it not just still somehow feel weird? Well, if it says, I mean, if it says it's safe on the box, I suppose, it doesn't feel weird.

But I don't know, he might be being reckless. It's a pretty quick. You, you, it's got to be, the hair's got to be pretty not grown in. This could be. So it's pretty quick. You put it down. I'm worried this is Jason's path either to electrocution or superpowers. Yeah.

Which, I mean, he gets the powers of the razor. It can be both. Oh, he gets fused with their, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, ends up with razor hands. Jason razor hands. Yeah. That'd be cool. Brought you by Norelco.

You might stand a chance against Godzilla. Uh-huh. In a limited run versus. Let's, okay, let's, what, to 2020, Bob Eager says during the writer's strike, the writer's demands are not realistic. What kind of a shower day is that? Hmm.

Did he forget to shower that day? Did he just roll out of bed and throw the suit from yesterday on? Yeah. You've made me feel a lot of pressure because this is my guild we're talking about. It's one of my guilds and I have to stand strong with them. But at the same time, we're going to tell this outgoing legend, he can't take the two showers he's so richly earned absolutely I absolutely not I defect from my oh really two showers still two showers that day whoa if anything he needs to maybe maybe he could do

some thinking in the shower and get his head straight and you stop having these perverse weird thoughts quite reasonable that's right yeah that's the kind of thing you might realize in a long shower okay wow Jason what do you think shower day what do you think what number would you give that day I think that is I think it's just one after his 5 a.m. gym day after his 5 a.m. workout and then I think he's stomping around

the rest of the day. So it's like he barely ate his cop salad. He's so grumpy and he definitely didn't take a second shower. Okay, so he's one. shower day. I say zero showers. I think he smelled all day.

But again, this is a question. You want to question the game a little more? Our showers, what we say what showers we say he should have taken does not affect how many he actually did take in the past. I'm just saying it's symbolic. And there's no way of knowing.

I came the closest that I could to knowing by being next to his successor briefly. Right. And if he were to hear any of this, he would be, I think, thrilled that I did not find a second to talk to him. That's true. This podcast, they were talking about Bob's showers. Two shower days.

It's Jason's fault. He's the one who springs it up, but he's acting like he doesn't. I don't know. It's Jason's fault this game exists. I'm not taking any blame for it. He wants suitcases full of money, and he wants two showers. I just want successful people's routines. You've got a, you know, he can't all be.

clavicular hammer this, clavicular hammer that. Shower maxing. You got to be shower maxing this. Shower maxing that. Yeah, no, okay, okay, fine. All right. The last one I have is just the Chepec appointment. What kind of a shower day was that?

What do we think? I assume that he took one shower with Bob Cheapick. Okay. That was the passing of the torch. Okay. Yeah. So I think one, but it was purely ceremonial. I'm handing you this bar of Irish Spring in recognition of your new position.

All the CEOs have used that bar of Irish Spring. It's been in the Disney company for decades. It's, you know. Sparingly, only on the toughest days. And only here for it as everlasting gobstopper like properties. The Irish Spring people never sold it because then they realize, oh, people would just have to buy one bar of soap. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, keep this thing close to the vest because it could destroy the soap industry. Yeah. So, look, the game makes a lot of sense. We're obviously going to come back to this game. It's a certain point because it's probably going to sweep the nation as far as playing it. Yeah, it'll be monthly iterations of the game. On the way over, I got, I had an intrusive thought that I, I mean, I didn't have time, but I'll try to sing this as a tribute.

It's four lines. Okay. I got to, maybe I'll do the whole thing and I get home, but I over. So this is set to the tune of U2's beautiful day. I wonder what it's going to be about. It's a two shower day. IP needs to be acquired. It's a two shower day to buy Chewy and Newt Gunray.

So goodbye, Bob Iger. Wow. That's my tribute to you. Touch me. There's a lot of places we can go. Irish Spring. There's a lot of place. I was like mad to myself for thinking of it late.

I was like, shit, that was, that's good. That would have been better than the game if I came up with the whole parody song. So I blew it again, as I often do. See, Chewbacca with a pork in his mouth. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway. Beautiful.

Beautiful. Well, thank you for sharing that with us. Yeah. Yeah. No, a nice way. The audience is also saying, thank you for sharing that with us. Yeah. And yeah, well, you know, now.

Now, this lends the question of how do you segue into universal epic universe attraction, hiccups, wing gliders. How do you go from Disney to Comcast? Why, hop on Alameda Avenue, taking straight, straight till the guns, riverside drive, and then you make a left-on to any number of streets. And don't forget if you go, but if you go the other way, then you end up at base camp dinette, get some barbecue, some good breakfast in the morning. Interesting architecture. So he could have been coming from the lot or coming from the Glendale Imagineering campus. Another quick hop-skipp and a jump to the dinette. Well, perfect transition.

Yeah, yeah, we made it. We hop-skipped and jumped over to Hickups Wingliders. It's an epic universe. It's the centerpiece of the How to Train Your Dragon Portal. That's right. Isle of Burke. And that's all I got. It was.

You threw this out, Mike. Yes. Hick-up Swin Gliders. Yeah. I think a sort of a sleeper hit attraction, I would say, at last year's New Park Epic Universe. I think maybe because other attractions were very hyped. We talked about Mind Cart Madness at the beginning of the year, which was heavily hyped. You're looking at the files for the, you're looking at the not permits, what's the, or whatever was filed.

the perm, uh, well there's patents. Patents. Patents. Yes. Uh, you're looking at patents that are, so this is new technology. It's never been done before. Yeah. It's an IP you grew up with that you care about so much. You're going to get to hop the track with Donkey Kong.

And then as we discussed in the episode, we have very mixed feelings about the attraction. Yeah. This thing, I just never heard of it. And I'm like, and they have a coaster over there. I guess I'll go on it. Right. And you go on it blows you away. Yeah.

Really fun. Their expectations were not there for it. obviously. Now, I think Jason has seen these movies or one. No, no, okay, never mind. Shoot. Now I've seen these movies. So what I said before this episode, I go, you know what? I'm going to watch these movies. My daughter likes to watch movies now. She has a good, a good attention spent for a three-year-old. I go, we're going to put these movies on. I put the first one on. I got confused because there's a live action remake that's exactly like the cartoon. Right. I put that on first. Wrong. Yeah. Put on the cartoon.

And we got eight minutes in. And she goes, oh, this is annoying. All right. And I go, yeah, but can we watch it? Because there's going to be dragons coming because there's like a fight going on in the village with hiccup and everybody. And I go, there's dragons coming. She goes, no. I want to watch Super Kitty's.

I go, oh, well, I'm trying to watch this for, can't we just wait until the dragon comes? No. All right. So I just put it on my phone. Okay. Did you keep watching it? I did keep watching it. Yeah. And now it was on my phone and she was watching a different thing on the TV.

So it's not the best way to focus. You still did it in that time? You didn't say let me do this at night? Well, I was, I watched it in pieces. Okay. So at that point, it's not the best way to absorb a film. Yeah, Quivie was right. Katsabee was right. It's cute. The movie's cute. All right. So, but, but, you know, that didn't, I don't know if that would have made it better or worse going on the ride for the first time. Because, yes, I think we all had a similar experience of like, this thing is, more people should be talking about this ride. I want to make sure that your watching of the movie was worthwhile. Do you think that there was any sort of, okay, well, if that ship is sailed, but do you feel like there is like a voice you could do or a deep cut character,

just to prove that that you saw it, is there something that you think could be valuable in this episode? Oh, the Craig Ferguson voice, maybe. I really can't. There's something new. I really can't. I cannot attempt that voice. Seems like a tough one, yeah. Yeah.

All right. Well, never mind. But you taught me something about the movie. It was worthwhile. I just wanted, I want to make it worth your time. And with that one, Craig Ferguson specific,

which thrilled, any Craig Ferguson heads out there. Who are going, you know, all this, he's gushing about Conan, Conan this and Conan that. Where does Conan's at one time competitor, correct?

Opposite 12 to 1230. Yeah. Why is Craig Ferguson getting no love? And now he, is. I'm not sure if that was love. You didn't really weigh in pro or con his performance and how to train your dragon. Yes, that's true. He's a gobber. G-O-B-B-E-R. If you had to nudge it into the positive or negative column, Gawber. I like his voice. I like Gobber. He's funny. He's like a big kind of warrior guy, Viking kind of guy. He speaks for me. Gobber is great. He's funny.

We love, we official endorsement. We at Podcast the Ride, love Gopper. I don't think he's on I'm probably pronouncing his name wrong. I don't think he's on the ride, though, so it wasn't like, oh, there he is. No. He's not, well, almost no one's on the ride. Yes, that's true. Hickup, toothlets and some baby dragons. Groncles, groncles.

Groncles, they say, yes, groncles for sure. You see groncles. I don't know how much were, I'm sure that when we came back from the park that we were gushing about the land itself, which I have, you know, I might, if not for, there. universe, I might call it the best in the whole park. I think you could call it the best. I think even though there's like the high, the high highs of dark universe are very high. Yeah. But maybe overall, Burke, I'm sure I'm repeating myself to some degree from last year,

but like to some degree, the whole land is the ride for this, like the whole land is this, is the backdrop for this ride. Yes. Which make, and then it's all, it all feels much more like expansive in that zone. zone and makes it more feel epic. It feels more epic in that zone. And dark universe feels a little tiny to me. That is true. So that is true. We think, uh, I mean, this has to be the biggest hit as far as where families go in Epic Universe. We've seen many, many iterations of cartoon worlds depicted in theme parks and how do you bring a cartoon to life. And it's been that, that, different

aesthetics have been satisfying in different ways. But the specific, just like, just like, Like the way that they render these structures and in this case the ride vehicle, that like, you know, the stone and the hand-carved nature of the fake hand-carved feeling nature of the wood and the hand-painted nature of it. It's just so crafty, charming. They bring the characters to life really well. You just have to, it feels like one of the most successful you're stepping into the movie. Maybe I'll declare this. How about since Radiator Springs?

the most satisfying you are fully in the world the cartoon has come to life proportions are perfect renderings are perfect buildings are perfect character depictions are perfect yeah I think I would agree with that

in some ways it's not exactly the same aesthetic but the thing I always liked about the snow white scary adventure is the cars and they were like they've all felt they were wood

obviously not real wood but they look like they were made they were made by the dwarves themselves and they had the dwarves names on the cars. Yeah. Like there's something like about like a cartoon, cartoon wood, cartoon handcrafted stuff that's really good.

Better than real handcrafted wood. Yeah, obviously. Handcrafted is what I'm really getting at. Boring. Anybody could do that. Fake wood. Fake wood. That's made to look like an artisan.

A cartoon? A cartoon. Artisan. Yes. With cartoon tools. I agree. Because sure, I also like Frontierland or whatever. Right.

But I really like cartoon. Wood. Yes, cartoon, I don't know if we've spoken about cartoon wood that much on the show. No, that feels like kind of a new area or just like a stamp to put on things. Yeah, absolutely. Because it's like, you know, it bulges. The proportions are weird. I was so late, not until we went last year, Mike, did I get to go on Seven Doors Mind Train? Oh, right. Excellent cartoon wood. Great cartoon wood. The, I don't have any of them, but in guys, Galaxy's Edge, they sell those little toys. I don't forget if that's actually real wood or not.

They sell those little handmade-looking Star Wars characters. Yeah, yeah. Which kind of has a similar aesthetic where it's like, obviously these are not all handmade, but like it's fake handmade wood characters. Sure, sure. Not cartoon, though. Well, I don't know if I would classify it. Like they just did a Max Rebo last year too.

I mean, I'll bring it. Do you know what I'm talking about? I have not seen. Okay. They almost look like, you know, the small, the posable things. It's not from a cartoon necessarily. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The posable, like, one foot tall, like almost look like marionettes or puppets that artists use.

Oh, I see. It's kind of a cartoon version of Max Rebo from Star Wars, and it's me kind of to look like wood. I see why you're saying this. But it's in the family. All right, maybe I will rule that as cartoon would. I'm going off of technicality here, but that is a very live action depiction of cartoon wood. Yes. So, yeah, that, I mean, yeah, the, how to train your dragon land is, I think, the best cartoon wood in theme park history.

No, I'm going to get some ire from the other side of the room, but I, because I, I don't, look, I find this more, like, mature and more pleasant and aesthetically pleasing than the cartoon wood. in, say, Tune Lagoon at Dundtree. Because are you, just think about that Dudley Doer, right? It's all very, like, it's very plastic. Yes, it's cartoon wood. It's very plastic cartoon. Exactly. It's overly exaggerated.

Don't feel that texture. Oh, he didn't fight at all. Wow. Geez. Hmm. Oh, I'm a coward. I betrayed the Canadian Mount, the Royal Mount of Police. Yeah, you needed to fight.

Fight harder for your friends. Jason, come on. I was Dudley. Maybe I was itching for a fight. Yeah, Scott wanted to fight and you didn't want to engage. Dudley, come on, your friends, Dudley and... I wanted him to go, The opening was shit.

Yeah, poop deck, pappy. He didn't have to fight with Conan. He didn't have to go, like Conan, your effing singing Danny Boy in the sinners parody. Get over there, do your jig. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it is, I guess, I'm trying to think of like

the aesthetic of like old Popeye cartoons isn't obviously as like pretty as new CGI Sure. So I think the reality of the reality Even though some of those cartoons look cool If they actually, they probably plus those up They probably plus the look up of all the different cartoons in Toon Lagoon. The reality would have been much more weird and like faded,

color-wise if they made the land look like a black and white 20s pop-by cartoon. Yeah. Although now I'm intrigued by that. I kind of want to see what that looks like. That would be a different, yeah, certainly a different vibe.

You want it to be the aesthetic of films that are being allowed to decay because nobody likes them enough to... Yeah, or they're too... No, they're trying to... Flacier Studios. Trying to preserve a lot of that stuff. I'm sure they are.

I just like, Even some of the most beautiful Fleischer cartoons, if you were to step into it, it would be like a nightmare. Yeah, everyone's bouncing all the time, you know. And like, they're just like the lines are all squiggly and bizarre. And everybody sounds like, hey, got you see! Well, right.

So they probably did their best to clean that stuff up. But the movie, How to Train Your Dragon, looks really cool. And it looks even better in real life. And even the most better on a phone. And even the most better on a phone. You're trying to absorb while your daughters watching other shows. And then sometimes to do other things, you're like minimizing the Netflix box. What's a tiny box on your phone while you're trying to watch this.

So you can scoop the deal on the... But there might be deals. On the Iron Man Toaster. There might be bills you're paying also while you're watching it in the tiniest screen possible. Well, it's like David Lynch. If you watch a movie on your phone and you have a fucking... seen the movie unless it's how to train your dragon the first

one. I like that David Lynch voice. Yeah, I don't know. He's like, uh, in your food and be there. Dave Lynch. Change your heart die. That's better. That's closer. Yeah, that's closer. This is why I think the Academy Awards are more

important. And this is what we at the Oscars are trying to do is to get people like you away from your seven screen experiences. You know, so watch a movie. watch the do you guys not watch YouTube in smaller like because you can you can watch it full screen on your phone this is YouTube or something some other video app you can make it into a little box in the corner and then you can take it and make it an even littler box in the corner I've never gone the one step

I've never gone one small because I have sometimes just like do you do you have to do that because whatever has now engulfed the main window has to become a secondary window it all It all depends. I don't always go to the smallest version of the box, but sometimes if like, sometimes if I'm really like wanting to veg, I will just like play Marvel Snap. And then sometimes because of the way the game is, you'll have to see things that are behind even the small box. So I'll throw up a video on YouTube. I'll make that box as tiny as possible. And then I'll play like Marvel Snap and just kind of like passively watch or listen, whatever it is. Sure. Sometimes, yeah, you got to drag that box around. Sometimes you do have to, you can drag the box around to the bottom left, to the bottom right, whatever, whichever part of the screen you want. I think I do it more on the iPad than the phone.

This makes sense to be. There's only so much room on a phone, even the biggest phone. How are you managing to, like, you're going to get down to, like, you've got like a four by four little pixel square. Sometimes, I mean, where you shove the movie. Yeah, I mean, I'm not watching like interstellar that way. I'm not watching something that probably demands like a big viewing area. Yeah.

But, you know, I'm watching. I swear to God, it drives me. If this is the way people are viewing things and if people are not watching, you know, for our friends who make video podcasts, if those are not being watched and stared at fully on a big screen for the entire perfect two-hour runtime. Right. In which they exist. How will you be able to tell what's in Mike Mitchell's pocket so you don't,

and watch it on the biggest screenpops. Yeah. No, you're right. Our phone in that one, while it in the other. So many friends create hours and hours of perfect content in front of shelves, which are full of perfect nerdy knickknacks. And if you are not staring at every pixel of those knickknacks for the two straight hours, if you dare to do other things, laundry run, gym, then you have no respect for art. Look, movie fights is back.

I'm back on it. And if you're watching it that way, I am upset with you, even though I'm guilty of doing the same thing. Yeah, yeah. But you're doing that about, like, crap, like how to train your dragon. Every perfect episode of movie fights should be, frankly, I don't think the TV at home is enough. You should be renting, you know, you can rent theaters at AMC. You can get a group of friends. You should be renting out the full theater, gathering all your movie fights pals and making sure that you stare at that.

Put the phones in the bag. Do it like a stand-up show, phones in the bag. You know, give Mike. I agree. Yeah, yeah. I agree. I think, yes. Full attention.

If you don't know, we're talking about it, it's a YouTube show that I did before. But a lot of people watched it that listen to this show. I don't know what the percentage is, but there's some. There's people out there. Well, no, I think I think a good amount of people initially found this show because they like you on movie fights. And to show you the proper respect, they should be renting out. Looking at my face.

It doesn't have to be IMAX, but that would be preferable. A lot of the comments... If you could bump a screening of a real IMAX film and gather all your friends to watch movie fights together. A lot of the comments were just talking about how everyone looked if they've aged on the YouTube. Oh. And you're saying that you've had intrusive thoughts lately? The first thing on your brain in this episode was intrusive thought.

Wow, Mike looks even younger. Most of them were actually positive. There's only one that said I looked old. Oh. Everyone else said I looked good. but you sure noticed the one. I sure did. Yeah.

You know, right after it happened, too, I was leaving. I went to. I'm glad nobody knew what I, people don't know what I look like. Right after I had done it, I was leaving the smokehouse. This was to try to set up a party later, of course, at my birthday party. And a guy walking dog goes, hey, great job on movie fights. And I was like, this is like when you do the old Tonight show the next day. Everybody would be bringing it up, you know.

So I felt good that day. Hey, you've aged gracefully. I'm not saying you have an age, but, you know, I'm not saying it's a bad thing either. Yeah, well, that would have been all right. Dignified. I would have taken that neutral comment. But no. Sometimes men actually get more attractive as they get older.

Oh, wow. Thank you. Do you put me in that columns? Gotta go. Maybe. Anyway. Maybe. Yeah.

I need to talk about this. Yeah. I have some basics. Oh, yes. Intimint. Intimant. Manufactured by Intimant. Yes.

How dare you get that out before? Did you know how much Jason was looking forward to saying I don't know. Forget that. Hit it out. Okay. Clear the deck. Jason say it.

Intimement. No, he did again. Sorry. I hope people call you old forever. I hope you get so many old comments for that. I hope that time it's an intimate ride you say it's B&M. All right. Jason, I promise I'm going to let you say intimate.

Top speed 45 miles per hour. Oh, he went to a different fact shit. Yeah. Ritch is top height of 50 feet. He pivoted. He did a little graceful swoop, much like an intimate coaster would do. I feel like I'm riding a wing glider.

Yes. They really are on fire right now. Because I don't remember. My brain cannot ever totally retain who made these coasters. I know. Which ones have made all of the big recent ones? But this, I mean, we were talking about them

with Grant O'Brien months ago because they made all the big Cedar Point, they made all the record-breaking rides, including the not just the Cedar Point record breaking rides, but Ferrari worlds, those insane nightmares. Oh, right, yeah. Where you got it like where you're whipping through sand. And then this new crazy one, which I assume all three of us have watched ride-throughs of Falcons Flight. Yes.

The new insane Saudi Arabia where you like go and do a little stint up on top of a cliff and then come. It's insane. It's like you go up and do a kid's coaster. You go do like, you know, like a, like a, a guy. Gets Go Coaster for a second on top of a mountain and then go back to your grown-up coaster. Yeah. I mean, would you do it if you found yourself in Saudi Arabia? We're not making a trip, but...

Yeah, yeah. Well, if I found myself in Saudi Arabia, I would just be, look, I'd be kissing. First, I'd be kissing every one of the millions of dollars I'd made from the comedy festival. Oh, yeah, yeah. If you were there for the comedy festival, sure. But if I had time amidst all the kissing to go on a rowy coaster, then maybe. I feel like that's one of those where like if they built it at Magic Mountain, I would be like, oh, God.

Like, let me, oh. But if I'm here, I'm like, oh, shit. I'm in the area. I'm in Saudi Arabia. Yeah. And it doesn't have legs. It's not like a dangling legs one. It's not like Superman the ride where I feel like a little more fearful.

Grabbing a handlebar or harness mommy. Great question. I don't know. It feels like there has to be a harness on that. Yeah. It's going so fast. But I could be wrong. maybe not.

I think. I'm not sure. So that would actually be a check in its favor. Jason, would you be going on this if you were in Saudi Arabia? I haven't watched a ride through. You haven't? No.

My goodness. Well, you should. I only just the other day realized, like, I haven't watched the like Star Dust Tracers at night videos. And because I didn't, we didn't get on it when we were down there. And so I pulled that up. And I'm like,

this looks scary to me. These cars, these trains get very close to each other. Yeah, that's the best part of the ride, I think, is when they get that close. Yeah, yeah. Intimid didn't do that, but they did. They're so stacked as far as recent universal accomplishments because they're Hagrid's, their Veloccoaster, they are forthcoming Hollywood drift on both coasts and then and then this like wonderful sleeper little like heart of the park kind of

ride. Are you out on drift? Do you think? I think so. I think that's too much for me. Yeah. There's a section because Hollywood drift is in running so you can really just see what it looks like now. And there is a section where they like rotate the cars and I feel like you're upside down for like eight seconds. It doesn't look. It's probably not that long. Everything looks slow though when you're running it. I guess I don't know. I think it's mostly like full. right throughs do look slow yeah but there's a section right towards the end right as you're coming over the escalators where they like flip you up they flip the cars and then you look like you're upside down for like eight like so much longer than the end of the velocicoaster and i'm like that

actually that part freaks me out a little bit are you worried that you were not going to enjoy hollywood drift um no i think i the only part i think i won't enjoy is is possibly the feeling sick of the twisting. Like I do a very minor amount on Guardians in Florida. That's the only thing I think even if there's a lot more to look at. That's my fear. Even if there's that section, even if there's that section when I'm describing where I'm upside down and it feels like freaky, I think I'll still say like, oh, most of it was really fun and I was scared on this one part. So I think so. But that part did give me a little bit of like, oh, God, that looks that might be intense to be hanging upside down. But I'm sure it's faster when you're feeling it. But you can see, yeah, you can see what it looks like.

The thing going over the escalators is nuts. You've seen that where you literally like just like point the car down. It looks like you're almost at like a 90 degree angle and the car points down toward. Maybe I don't know what the cars are doing at that. I've known the track obviously, but I don't think I know that's what's going on. You're pointing just straight down. It looks like it as you come over it. It looks like the cars kind of go like this and then zoom down and then go down.

Right. I mean, it looks insane. It looks awesome. But still like I'm like, this is going to be interesting. But are you worried that because sometimes I wonder, are you putting like all your stock in life into the summer of Hollywood drift. And if this does it, because I feel like you've been building to once a week,

I'm popping up, I'm doing Hollywood drift, I'm getting, I'm getting Slic House Tony, Jim McNani every time I go up there. If it's like Transformers summer when Transformers opened and I did do that, that would be nice. There's a lot more going on in my life, unfortunately, that perhaps once a week is too hard to make. Yeah. But ideally, yes.

Don't you, aren't you owed some space at this point? I believe I have a Hollywood drift summer. Cosmically, I believe I am, but I don't know if that's how it's going to work out. How late are they open during this? Can you just keep,

just keep sliding out after bedtime? Yeah, maybe. What time does she go on bed? And what time does the park close? My daughter goes to bed. Sometimes we can get her in at 730 or 8 sometimes. Not so bad.

But maybe if it's open to nine. Get that up to seven. Yeah. Just start pop. Yeah. Just make it every night. make it every night thing. I mean, you know, there's days when I'm looking at the Universal High account and I'm just like,

this guy's got the life in the park. This could have been you, man. What else do you know about his life? I don't know anything about his life. But you know that he's at Universal Studios all the time and that's all you need to know. I know he's nice. We met him. I talk to him sometimes online and he's at the park all the time.

But you know what you got to remember is that everybody's dealing with their own shit. You've got your own shit. I've got my own shit. I've got my own shit. I'm sure he does. We're all human. We are all human. I agree.

But yeah, sometimes like, well, I could just be on this ride every day, perhaps. So I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens. I don't know. Big summer. I still have to start begging to get into that premiere. I would love to go to the opening party.

What's the, have they said a date yet? Or it's just still spring summer. I think it says summer, but I'm guessing. I feel like Memorial Day is when a lot of things open. Rock and Roller Coaster Muppets version is opening, I believe Memorial old day. Okay. So I wonder if it's not around that zone when they're hoping to have it going.

Yeah. Thank God that's across the country from you because otherwise you'd be. I'm worried you're like, you're like sending a drone up there to drop a Molotov cocktail. They're spending like two and a half months doing something. It just closed. There's not going to be a lot. Not a great time. Hope for the pre-show, I'm sure will be fun.

But then the like Megan Trainor, Miss Piggy song, whatever that is. I feel like it's maybe not going to be what we want. What's that? Hot stuff. Hot stuff. Is that one of her songs? I've got Hot stuff, baby, this evening. You think it's going to be hot stuff?

Is that confirmed that it's Megan Trainor or Miss Piggy? We just joking. Is it confirmed that it's hot stuff? No, it's not. I was joking. Has either one of those artists done a version of hot stuff? No, it should be funny. It'd be funny choice for Miss Piggy to sing.

Here's what happened. Like, it was funny to have a Riz of the Rats thing blinded by the light. I agree. I'm explaining. I'm just going to explain what I was thinking. You said hot stuff, which we talk about hot stuff, a little devil. So first I was confused that you thought hot stuff was involved, which, okay.

Oh, I wish. And then hot stuff. But it came out so fast, it was almost like you knew information about it. No. So hot, okay. So I don't think it's going to be the song Hot Stuff, I'm guessing.

I mean, we could have an official guess off of what we think these songs are going to be. I think there'll be like a couple Muppet songs and then a couple like covers. That's what I guess. It's probably a mix. Yeah. Because, like, what, yeah, it's not going to be rainbow connection unless it's like pop punk rainbow connection. Well, you had that ready to go.

Well, it's just too slow for that. If he's able to push out the intrusive thoughts, he just imagines that entire rip-roaring, rockin, pop-punk version of rainbow connection. Right. But I mean, imagine how cool. I don't think that's out of the question. I think that might be on the table. But we'll find out. But let's go back to Hickup.

Pickup and his wing glit. Top height, 50 feet. Did I do that one? That's how high it goes. No, you didn't say that yet. How high it goes. Couldn't beat him on that one, could. Shit.

You lost your. Yeah, he wins again. Too busy thinking about Pop Punk. I think, because we were talking about how this is like a good first coaster for kids. And it's like compared probably to like a big thunder. Like a big, it's a real coaster, but it's like something that kids wouldn't be feel too afraid of. Yeah.

It's got those launches. It's got a little bit more thrilled than Big Thunder, but it's also smoother. And so family. friendly, aesthetically. I think I would have been scared of it, though, a little bit. Because it's more exposed on the sides.

A big thing for me was always I'm going to fall out of the coaster. So I think I would have seen this and I'd be like, oh, the track is so exposed. You do big turns for sure. And you do big turns. Yeah, I love that last little high part where you're twisting,

like almost pretty close to the end. Kind of full 90 degree. Yeah. So I wonder if I would have had some hesitation as a whatever nine-year-old turn. I would have liked it, I think, but I would have been, like, holding on for dear life, I think. Sure, sure. Because it's a little shock.

I think when that launch occurs, the whole thing, by the way, is that you are, it is a simulated dragons flight. You are in a fake drag, a cartoon wood dragon, which allows you to fly alongside dragons and in a big swoopy way that is, similar to how dragons would take turns and maneuver and go through a tunnel as this ride does. So really quickly, about as fast as you can possibly move past animatronics, you go past hiccup and then, but sort of sit with Toothless the Dragon for a second, who very satisfyingly presses a big button. That is, yeah, really good. And it's almost the thing that Hagrid's coaster is missing, a little.

little bit more of because there's some great animatronics and creatures on that ride, but you are zooming past them, I feel like, so fast that you don't get your intimate moment to look at that. You get your moment with the robot. That very nice grin, a very endearing character, despite me not having seen any of his films on the big screen or in the littlest screen within the littlest screen of my phone. If we could only have gotten to that part, I think my daughter would have liked him. Yeah, yeah.

You just had a big hump to get over. Yeah. But you launch these two like ballast stones on either side of you. Yeah. Go down. So you feel it's this like funny Rube Goldberg contraption. And you go flying and right from second one, you're like, okay, this is something. This is more than I gave it like instantly more thrilling, more satisfying, more fun than you thought it would be.

It is a, it's the kind of coaster I think you're laughing on a lot. I think that that is not, it's not even the sign of a bad coaster. Some coasters is just a different thing. It's more thriller oriented. But I think this is a laugher, this red. That's a good, that is a good point and a good way to describe coasters. Like Velocaster, and I've said this before, you end Veloccoaster and people are joker-fied.

They are cackling. I'm cackling because there's so many laughing moments in it. And like, I think a big thunder, maybe when you're on the like, second fast part after the after the goat scene and there's that like turn where like all of a sudden it kind of feels like it kicks into a slightly higher gear and you really get like like knocked into the side that's probably like a laughing moment whenever it goes like they are a little taken aback by it or like surprised by it but that's a good way to even think of coasters like how many laughing how many spots do people whoa or whatever or whatever noise they like to me that's pretty good and it's Whoa. Whoa, they're kind of a Rodney thing. Yeah. What makes you Rodney?

What's the Johnny Bravo moment? Yeah. Similar, I guess similar voices. But yeah, there's launches and surprises. And then, you know, right before you launch off at the end, too, I feel like it's a surprise. Yeah. So it's just like, you know, hey, and this is what helps us contain it into it. You know, how long can you explain the moves of this ride?

But you're just like, you swoop and fly. It's fast. It's fun. It's so smooth. It's a great way to see the land. You go through a foggy tunnel. It's a real tight clearance. Just like everything that happens, very fun and satisfying.

And then you get this really fun middle beat where you try to keep moving through a bunch of groncle eggs. It's conveyed that groncle eggs are explosive. If they hatch, then they explode. Thus, you kind of keep moving. You kind of catch that while you're on the move, but then you start to sink back. And at least for a second, I mean, we're ride savvy, so we figured it out pretty quick. But there's a moment where you want, we know that we also know that coasters roll back. Yeah, roll back.

And I think when we, at various times when we've gone on this, at least of the two for you and me, there was some like weird stop or problem. So like, it would be easy to get tricked into like, oh, why are we rolling back here? And then before you realize that it's part of the story and on purpose. Well, it's honest, it's a smarter way to do a trick like that for the savvy people. Because now we know, of course, because we're so smart that on like Everest or on Hagrid's when there's like a dead end to a track, like we know that's not real. So it actually is smarter to trick us by not having that and having something stop or have a roll back. Oh, yeah, true. Well, we know, and we know that the track keeps going.

We can see that we're on the regular track. We're not in some little special part of the track. And the rollback itself is just gravity, it feels like. So it's just this little creep. And it seems like the kind of thing that genuinely could happen if the ride was broken. So you do at least for a split second get a little fooled in there. So it is, yeah. I don't know.

I don't know if that's like thoughtful or is just like they couldn't do something like crazier looking budget wise. But it's like that's the way, that's the way in the few. future to really like trick a savvy theme park fan like with everest you know the track is like all cartoonishly bent up at the top so like you look at that and obviously it looks so it doesn't look real like a yet he didn't you know a yety didn't do it and it kind of it adds to the surprise of the second launch yes of right this the second launch you go how do we get out of here yeah yeah yeah because like if you i'm trying to think of like if on everest like it would be better to have

like a track and then there's just like a missing piece on the track or like one thing jutting up to make everyone really freaked out. It's like more subtle ways to truly terrify guests and to thinking something is wrong with the track. Yeah, yeah. But obviously, you know, you just need a guy who, I think you really need is a guy who is not, who doesn't fit the theme who has a walkie talkie who gives you a look that's like, uh-oh.

Right. At the top of Everest. Yeah. There's like a worker there. guy in like a kind of a Disney Florida guy khaki pants shirt tucked in and hat. Yeah, or it's like a tourist, even keep the track on Everest as it is and like put a human actor tourist like and he's got like his pants caught on the top of the track and he's like, ah, hey, help me. Help me. I got stuck here.

The whole car went off the side here and I got stuck on the tree. here and I got stuck on the track. Oh, I see. Help me, please. Okay, okay, everybody, 16 people all went flying. Right, they went flying. They all tumbled to their dust. The lucky one is now, right, hanging off the edge, partially nude, bare butt.

Yes, you can see his butt for sure. And then he's like, tell them down there. Yeah. When the coaster, if you get back down, tell them I'm up here. Needed. Disney live actor to be on, on actual roller coaster track, eight hour shifts. Monday through Friday. Subtle acting.

Not cartoonish. Because they have to trick us better now because we're so in the know. Because of a podcast like this people are so in the know now. It's really on us. We've really ruined it.

We've made everyone more savvy. Exposed the magician's secrets. Yes. With our concise, focused roller coaster analysis, the thing that we are most known for. Perfect explanation of all the rides and the ride systems and the makers.

Yeah, exactly. Nobody does it better than us. So anyway, you do a second launch and then you go like, whoa, whoa, and then you kind of do that. It's like a swoop, like side swoop, you know? And I like it when the big button gets pushed. I like to see the button and get pushed. Then it goes all like down like, but then it goes all like up like?

Yeah. I think there should be more buttons on rides to show when the ride is about to go. It really sells it. Sometimes the timing on different parts of the ride doesn't work perfectly. but it's still pretty good you still go fast well you get up to 45 miles an hour faster

no fact stat there we do we do we do our job faster than big thunder too I looked it up it's a faster ride than big thunder it's a real good step and stone ride and truly it's something that everybody in the family can do I saw someone on Reddit saying that they believe it is the best family

coaster on the planet Earth and if someone on But it says it must be true. Yes, they've never... And mean. And also viciously mean. Because like right in the modern world, the modern family coaster family is what? Slinky dog?

Slinky this is a more intense slinky dog. It's probably about a third as intense as Hagrid's. Half as intense as Hagridz. It really depends on where you draw the line of family. I know. That is the thing. Because I'm looking at the comments and people are saying, And we're about guardians and I don't think I call it a family.

No. Even if some of the family goes on it. Too dark. This at least has your friends. Too dark? Huh? You say it was too dark? It's like pitch black in some parts.

Oh, that is scary depending on your age. Totally very young or very old. Speed-wise. It's too dark. It's so dark in here. Have I died? Because I, well, I'm trying to think my daughter doesn't mind the dark. She just minds the thunder.

That's what she'll tell you about pirates. I bet I didn't mind sounds. as a kid, but I was terrified of the dark of Pirates of the Caribbean. Interesting. When I was like three. Sure. She knows that's a,

she knows the waterfall happens in the dark, so she likes that. But she's like, I don't like the thunder. She likes the rest of it. Yeah. So I guess that depends. In the comments, sort of way up there as far as

a recent family coaster that we have not been on and that's not Disney Universal, so we wouldn't naturally go to it. Yeah. But somebody was saying they believe the top family coaster at the moment is Big Bear Mountain at Dollywood. I don't know much more about Big Bear Mountain, but I think that's like a fun charming ride with a light plot.

I saw people quickly saying not quite the quality of hiccups wing gliders, but that was maybe also in contention. I also think the setting and a setting being the full land that looks amazing elevates it. Because like Toy Story, like similar to Slinky Dog, which is outside and there's stuff to look at. Toy Story land is not nearly as cool as Isle of Burke. Yes. Yeah. Well, now you do have to notch this down a little bit, and I don't think this will be a forever problem at this ride and in this land and in this part. But there is one thing, which is the beginning and the end of the ride, you are kind of just looking at nicely manicured, very new grass.

Sure. You're sort of, it kind of just, there's parts of it that don't look like a magical dragon land that look more like a just a, a, solid par three golf course. And that's not bad. That's not a bad thing. But then you also see out into like a parking lot. You know, you are not immersed.

Obviously the best parts of it and the best things in the ride are happening when you're off in Burke proper. And I have a feeling that these trees will grow and the park will expand and sight lines will improve. But you can see, you can feel the point, you know, what in December 2024? Yeah. It's like, and we're done. That's what you got.

How about grass? How about some daisies? I, some daisies. You know, I watch some reports from like epic universe around Christmas time. And when it was decorated for Christmas and they stuck a bunch of extra trees in there, like Christmas trees and some of the more like reed-like dune grass were kind of dead for the season, I'm like, oh, this park looks a lot more fleshed out with a little extra greenery and some of the greenery. not in season.

It had a little more life to win, Celestial Park, I thought. Sure, sure. Yeah. That's good here. I, you know, I also, I watched a night ride through because I was curious and pretty good.

You know, I think the middle of the ride might be better during the day, but at night, you get to see those groncles glow. Yeah, I saw that. And boy, what cool figures once they hatch also? Yeah, they're cute. Just those, yeah, those big toothy grins. They're really fun.

We didn't get to do it at night, but I do wonder if, because my favorite thing is a big thunder night ride and Disneyland because of all the lights and you're right around the rivers of America and that's like the best vibes at night in the park in my opinion

but I wonder if I wonder do you get like Pete you get the hotel lit up do you get everything else I mean it feels like you not only can get the vibes from Isla Burke but then you can get a little of the a little of the vibes from the rest of the park. Stardust Racers is late at night the because that would be

it bothers me during the day you can see Star Dast Racers so clear but I wonder if it would be awesome at night. If it just felt like a little stardust trail. Yeah. Yeah, the full thing's not lit up. So I bet a night ride here is the way to go if you had to choose. But why I choose?

Yeah. Well, no, it seems like the obvious thing, and we've kind of hit this in various episodes since we went to the park. It seems like the best case is how to play Epic Universe is to avoid it from the hours of nine to six. Sure. Utter heat trap. Yeah. That is also true of the Q. of this attraction with all of the discussion of skippable and unskippable cues.

This might be the most skippable cue. Not because the bit of theming that there is is charming and fun, but the outdoor stretch of it is so sweaty. The outdoor part, yes. I hate recalling this. I just remember like, oh, my God, my back. And then I'm looking around at other back. Just every back is drenched.

Yeah. So if you want to see a bunch of drenched backs, and maybe you do, If you do, get to this queue. If that's your thing, yeah. Go for it. I guess if you're a theme park person, maybe that is a weird fetish of yours. He said drenched back. My exact thing.

Jane got some pictures of us all in this route, all three of us on this ride. And she said, oh, some of these are live photos. So if you hold it down, you can see you all like looking at stuff and pointing at stuff. We're doing our work. We're doing the good work. So, yeah, taking it all in. Yeah, look at this. Oh, that kind of.

A classic intimate track, of course. Was that like 50 feet? 50 feet? Although at the end, I think there's one of like, why are we stopped? Like, we're like 10 feet from the cloud loading. We're doing silent movie acting on this. We're like, is that, are they? Yeah.

Well, I'd like to see those. I'd like to see what it was we were doing. It sounded very cute. I'm sure it was cute. But there is something about like, drench back's notion. shade and that this is the land where everybody's eating those cones. And I don't want to take these cones away from anybody.

I think I'm in the minority of not really, I didn't try a cone. It just doesn't seem like the kind of food that I would want to have at any time. But I especially don't want it to be in front of me and in front of a bunch of drenched backs. And it's just like that, a big open cone of mac and cheese with cheese it crumbles and maybe some weird meat in there. forget and like pretzel bread. Drag on the hottest, hottest day in the least shady line. They have them here now, I think. I think they have the cones here.

They do. I've seen Hollywood. Yeah. So you can get it one of these cones. That's fine. Do it in the shade. Take it to the, you know,

you want hot bread and hot mag and cheese in the middle of heat? I don't believe that I do. While you're unfortunate that this is the natural habitat of these cones. We'll probably have like a cold snap or a little bit of chill before it goes fully hot for the summer here in Southern California. So maybe there'll be a good cone day for you up there. It's your ideal. Top of the hell, the wind kicks in, you know.

It's your ideal cone weather. What's, uh... Well, ice cream is a whole weather. What's a good two-cone day? I've accomplished a lot. I'm having a two, it's a two-cone day. Jason judges his successful days by how many cones he's had. Coins.

Ice cream or otherwise. Do a more savory. and then a sweet cone. It would be good if you went. Maybe you're just like, you know, I don't want any more ice cream. You've had enough dairy. Maybe you just eat the cone.

You got the box in your house. Have you eaten a cone? Have you eaten a staddle? I must have at some point. Did you say standalone? A standalone cone. I like standalone cone. Like a sugar cone, like the chewy one.

Oh, so not just the regular small. Not a wafer cone. Because a sugar cone is more like a, a, cookie than a regular one which tastes like nothing. No, a sugar cone is the chewier one. The other is referred to as cake cone. Isn't it the wafery kind of one? Well, you'd be the one to know.

Yeah, no, I always think of sugar cone as more of the long way, like it's a longer cone. Yeah, the longer one. Okay. But what do you call the regular, like a tiny cone with the little like lip on it? With the kind of crunch? Yeah, but it's like air. There's a lot of air in it.

I always heard that called a cake cone. Maybe that's right. How long can we let this dead air go? I'm not going to be the one to break it. I have no further information about cones. This is on y'all. Well, what about clown? Well, I love clowny cones, of course.

Which we discovered is perhaps a name. My family invented. Yeah, I think so. Clown cones, yeah. Yeah, they're just clown cones. I don't have any plans at this time to eat only a cone. But you do, you have done this and would do it. Just cone.

I don't. I don't remember the instance where I did it, but if I kind of just wanted like a box of sugar cones, though? You can, there were like $2 at the grocery store, Mike. I'm just interesting. I mean, I guess sometimes we've had them in the house. When I was growing up, we always had some kind of cone in the cabinets. Yeah, yeah. Well, see, that makes sense because you were a child.

Well, hold on. There were adults in the house and they would splurge on a cones. They would partake a cone as well. They would partake of the cones, you know? I think you should stop buying bread and only buy cones. everything breakfast cone, eggs cereal in the cone

turkey cone peanut butter and jelly in the cone gotta take some medication today well a little sugar else the medicine go down

how about a pill an Advil cone Yeah I think you should go cone based from no one The anti-inflammatory cones Yeah Next time you're buying

From Rite Aid Are these anti-inflammatory? Do you want Advil or the generic Or the ice cream cone version? Oh, get the eye cream cone fliers. I'm sick I'm squalling the pals.

Well, that'd be a nice thing to bring the Burke spirit into our everyday life. Yeah. That's what they do. They fly dragons. They eat mighty cones. We understand this franchise. We know what it all of it. We know what it is.

We know about Craig Ferguson's character. Gopper. Gopper. There you go. Gauber. That isn't too far off. No. I can almost retain a name that was said an hour and ten minutes.

ago. My brain is sharp. Any closing thoughts, though, about hiccups, wing gliders? I think, I mean, I guess I want to hype people up on it, but I guess maybe that's, I don't, maybe I don't want them to be so disappointed because it's not like the technical marvel that monsters unchained

is or anything, but definitely make a point to do that. It's longer than it's still on the shorter side, about two minutes, but it's longer than Donkey Kong. It's better than Donkey Kong. And it is better ride. I might say this is kind of close to what Soren was for original California Adventure

where it's kind of this like quietly, surprisingly awesome sort of chill attraction that might be holding the old damn park together. I mean, it's monsters and chains still. It's not the Soren, it's not quiet. That is better than anything that was at California Adventure when it opened.

But you know what I'm saying. Just like a, I think, you know, you put this ride at any park and it is just like, it's not the top, it's not the e-ticket, but it's just like solid, dependable. It's like, it's this park's like, uh, Pirates on a mansion or something. Just like good, good, you know, solid, solid triple of a ride. I, I'm hopeful that I can take my daughter on it and she won't yell.

This is annoying. I'm hopeful that that's something that won't happen. If she decides it's annoying, I regret to inform her that she is restrained into the vehicle. Yeah. She might more want the monsters ride. She's wild. She might get scared at that, though. Well, the way.

We should wrap this up so you can get back to dealing with your wild child. Yeah, she's wild. Let's wrestle, she'll often say. And then try to punch me. Then just kick you in the face. Well, she said the other day, she goes, I'm going to punch you in the groin. And I'm like, where did you get that? Who said that?

We're not letting her watch stuff where that's a common piece of dialogue. It's totally organic. It's just, you know, human nature, I guess. My baby's in a pinching phase. so we've all got our issues. Maybe we should keep going. Let's add a fourth topic to this episode, so I don't have to go get pinched by my baby.

I'm in a pinching phase, too. You got to watch out. Oh, boy, all right. Don't come too close. You survive podcast, The Ride. Thanks for listening. For three bonus episodes every month, check out Podcast the Ride the Second Gate

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