Podcast: The Ride - Hot Dog Hullabaloo

Episode Date: May 6, 2022

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Dog! Hot dogs, get your hot dogs here. Join the good boys as they search for the finest hot dog at the Disneyland Resort. Featuring hot dog sharing hijinks, open table shenanigans, and just whose idea was this anyway? The answer may surprise you. It's the Hot Dog Hullabaloo on Podcast The Wrap. Welcome to a very special Podcast the Ride that is sure to change the face of hot dog related entertainment forever. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the Podcast the Ride Hot Dog Hullabaloo. Hello, everyone. I'm Scott Gairdner, joined by fellow Hullabaloo hello everyone i'm scott gardner joined by fellow

hullabalooers mike carlson hi i am a hullabalooer hello uh yes i this is the uh debut of a new exciting event i think i said yesterday a new ptr franchise potentially so i yeah i feel good about it i feel good about it there's, and it's certainly open-ended, because we didn't, I mean, we'll talk about how the rules that we set made it so we can do more of these quite readily, maybe leading up to some big grand championship. Well, we'll explain what we're doing here, exactly. But first, a guy who's really going to be thriving today. His name's Jason Sheridan.

Noblest of all dogs is the hot dog. It feeds the hand that bites it. That's a quote from Dr. Lawrence J. Peter that kept coming up as I searched the Google Google the phrase hot dog quotes. Should you do it again?

No, no. The ambulance you just heard is waiting for us because we've recently completed a hot dog eating day. They're circling the block. Yeah, yeah. They've got the word. And if you need us, we know you guys ate more hot dogs. In two of our cases, had more hot dogs in a day than you've had in two years.

Yeah, the streets have been cleared. The police have cleared the streets just in case we need to be loaded in. Beautiful quote, Jason. Yeah, I have another one, too, that kept coming out. Oh, great. I always look for a hot dog wherever I go. That's Martha Stewart said that

on her episode about hot dogs. Wow. On one of her shows. Wherever she goes. Wherever she goes. And he's just out on a walk in the ocean well let's not forget the famous line from the start of the patty duke show the show that aired 70 years ago a hot dog makes her lose control and who can't relate to that yes you know i mean because that

could have any number of meanings described that's what's in the theme song of the show. It's like a hot dog makes you lose control. It's about identical cousins. But yeah, for some reason, I don't know. I don't think there was a common thing in the show where she would just eat hot dogs like she was Jughead or something. But that's in the song. I know that. Nobody correct me.

I know it's in there. That's a fact tells me that the patty duke heads are not so there's not so many of them out in the in the fan base but you never know there's got to be one or two probably um hot i think we're all gonna lose control due to hot dogs today uh and and let me just quickly explain what is going on what is the hot dog hullabaloo uh yesterday as we record this the three of us mike jason and i went to the disneyland resort with one very specific goal to consume every hot dog available on the property and the entire resort we're talking disneyland california adventure downtown disney the hotels anywhere where hot dogs are available we tried every variety of hot dog um i mean maybe not ever you know we we had we had some rules we had to

like you know save ourselves in certain ways but we certainly went to every location where hot dogs are available we um split them all into threes yes so as to for it to still be a tasting situation a sampling situation so we three grown men kept going to places cutting up hot dogs into three parts right there was a lot of hijinks yesterday yeah definitely very high jinky day i guess bound to happen with with what we're trying to do here but all of this in service of trying to figure out if you go to disneyland with a hankering for hot dogs yeah if you want a hot dog to make you lose control what is the what hot dog will make you lose control the mo what dog will make you lose control?

What's going to help you get your Patty Duke on? And we're going to determine that today. We don't know the answer right now, but by the end of this episode, we will determine what we are declaring the best hot dog at the Disneyland Resort. Yeah, very exciting. It's interesting. Yesterday, I went in with no expectations, and the day was both easier and a little harder than I expected. And I don't want to say exactly why yet, but it'll come out during the. I know what you mean.

Yes. I think, yeah, the shape of it played out differently for me. I guess primarily being that I did not vomit or diarrhea. Yes. Neither of those happened. I guess none of us did i think although i don't know how the evenings went for i will reveal here now exclusively i did not diarrhea in the last 12 hours jason would you like to give us an exclusive i have not vomited or diarrhea per se scared by per se we're in dicey territory yeah i thought we would talk about our

our diarrhea later but i guess we're gonna start it off hot on this i know look i'm not at a hundred percent um no nor am i i don't feel good i feel a little logy uh this was exacerbated by the fact that i kind of i stated uh let me explain one of my hijinks uh jane found this t-shirt for me at a thrift store that just says the phrase hot dog mountain we don't know what it i i've been meaning to look up look it up and see if i can find anything about it i'm assuming it's a snowboarding thing um or something like that because i think you can do you go hot dog or hot regardless so i was like well i'm gonna wear hot dog mountain oh wait i'm looking at google image it and there's somebody in the shirt oh good this is an i believe this is an urban outfitters

it does this is still on the official urban outfitters site okay yeah so you were getting this is a resale at a goodwill or something of this hot dog mountain. And it's very comfortable. And I am also wearing it today because I stayed over at Jade's. It did not dawn on me until this morning that like, oh, I don't have another shirt and I have to go. Yeah, I didn't know. As we started, it occurred to me the shirt we were looking at all day yesterday about hot dogs. Which is unfortunate. Like, it was just a black t-shirt

yesterday and i came in wearing a black t-shirt today like no one would have paid any mind i got a million black t-shirts you know uh but if it says hot dog mountain like i don't have two of these i wouldn't look i wouldn't put it past you to have multiple shirts that say hot dog mountain on them yeah i mean i could have gone home and thrown it in the wash and put it back on uh instead uh the reality is so you made the walk of shame over to record i made the hot dog walk of shame yeah i think you're right also in your first guess that i because i'm seeing a patch that hot dog mountain is part of lake geneva and wisconsin oh and there is in this patch in fact you might enjoy this patch that it is a little hot dog in a little hat to keep him warm and skis, and he's heading down Hot Dog Mountain.

I love that. There's also a little Playboy Bunny logo. So maybe it was there like a Playboy Club there. I guess, yeah, the Playboy Bunny's friends with the hot dog from Hot Dog Mountain. Well, this raises more questions than answers. Lake Geneva and the Finger Lakes region of New York, too. I didn't realize there was one in Wisconsin. Lake Geneva.

All right, we'll learn everything we can about... Wow, there's 13 slopes of fun at Hot Dog Mountain. Wow, really? Cool. Okay, well, we're going to have to cover Hot Dog Mountain, but this isn't Hot Dog Mountain, the episode. This is Hot Dog Hullabaloo, the episode. This is one of the things I was going to ask about is how everybody feels today.

Because, okay, so some total of it. And you might be imagining jaw-dropping stats. And I don't quite have those to give. But I believe that the full count is that we went to five establishments and all split seven hot dogs. Which adds up to, I guess, only a little more than two when you're adding some of the crazier ingredients and that it is pretty much all we had for lunch and dinner uh-huh um yeah i thought i was going to be feeling it more as the day went on and i kept all day i felt like i am surprised i am not worn down and then this morning morning, I felt so bad. I slept bad.

I could feel my body being mad about lack of nourishment and things that it needs. I also, I mean, I was drinking throughout the day, too. So that combo, I think. In a while. We did a fairly big day. Not opening to closing or anything, but what? Yeah, bigger than we've done. 10.45 to 9 something?

Yeah, yeah. I made some... I think I really only made one miscalculation, but I was feeling it for a while. What was that? And then got a second wind. Is that your liberty to say the calculation? Are you about to puke? Are you about to throw up? No, I'm still just having...

The vapors? The vapors. The hot dogs are still just eating on me. I'm in that ambulance. I'm leaving the ambulance over. Also, the longer the episode goes, we're fine now, but we aren't at the end of a two-hour episode. By the end of this, we might not make it out. This floor might get puke-stained by the end. Full of diarrhea by the end.

The listeners are going to get binaural vomit in their ears. I'll bring it up. I'll bring it up when we get to it. Oh, interesting. I was going to say, it might make sense as a progression to go chronologically with the hot dogs that we have. I think that might be a good order

and kind of take everybody through our day. But before we get into it, let's talk rules and odds and ends. Well, first of all, I want to thank Aaron Gairdner for not just the logo for the Hot Dog Hullabaloo, but for naming the Hot Dog Hullabaloo. Great name. Thank you. Let's talk about rules. Rules that we put forth before trying all of these hot dogs.

One ruling, I think, no these hot dogs um one ruling i think no kids hot dogs this is going to be embarrassing enough as it is yeah eating hot dogs and splitting them up all day splitting children's dogs didn't feel good to me and i don't think a kid's dog was going to take it all the way likely not right um we didn't go to any buffets i think we found all the hot dogs on property but if there were a bunch of hot dogs set out um at a hotel buffet or something we don't know about that and we do we're not gonna pay 28 bucks to only get the hot dog i'm sure yeah goofy's kitchen storytellers probably have some child hot dog option also seems unlikely to me that if we if we don't think a kid's hot dog is going to take it

all the way then kids hot dogs at a buffet almost certainly you're not going to take it all the way you never know though maybe there's a there's a odd meaty gem in there yeah no yeah who knows who knows um i took uh i said we should take ronto wraps out of the equation we did the the star wars galaxy's edge food that we're very fond of um that is the ultimate hot dog. We called it a space hot dog before it came out. I don't like a competition where we know the winner. And I don't think any of the, now we've had all of these hot dogs. Would you say any of them could go up,

could go toe-to-toe with the Ronto Rep? It would have been a clean sweep. Ronto Rep. Too easy. Too easy. Little too, don't get ahead of yourself. Don't get full of yourself don't get full of yourself yeah now you had a rule that i think turned out to be correct but i initially argued are we sure

about this you were a little intimidated by the day by the notion of doing this until i put this rule forth and i think this is crucial um and this might not be, look, this is my judgment for this competition. Maybe this isn't true in general, but for the purposes of this, I said corn dogs are not hot dogs. Off the table. Now, I don't agree with corn dogs are not hot dogs, but off the table for this. It doesn't even sound right to me.

It doesn't. Yeah. Yeah, I think for, because imagine how we would have felt if on top of it we are eating those big thick breaded corn dogs that's the day that destroys us now i think corn dog batter would is like you know when you uh take a fall on screen into a crash pad that i think that corn dog batter would have lined your stomach a little oh you think you would have done a better day if we had corn dog i think i think the batter would have lined your stomach a little. Oh, you think it would have been a better day if we had corn dog. I think the batter might have helped.

The batter might have helped. The batter might have helped. But it could have also, like packing peanuts in a box, it might have puffed up. It probably would have puffed up and filled it up. I also think, in my mind, the hot link corn dog at Corn Dog Castle is one of the best small meals or snacks on property and i think that would have weighed it i would have had trouble being unbiased and

because i think it's delicious i didn't want that either i think i because i was such a late comer to the disneyland corndog i didn't realize how solid they were and i think it's also they are genuinely pretty great and again too easy you don't want you don't want to just like set up a competition because you know what the winner is going to be and then hooray we got the winner there it's where we stand right now these just putting it in the hot dog category i don't know what's i genuinely don't know what's going to take it and i think that's exciting yeah um we should also say uh sides sides we did have sides uh but we are trying to separate them well the almost the only side the majority of the sides were cuties we oranges yes i kept ordering cuties as the side not the chips not the fries

cuties single cuties massive l at one of the locations in what way what do you mean well i'll get to it i'll get to it i don't want to i don't want to we'll get there massive l massive l yeah but not all the locations not all the did you eat a bad cutie no no the cuties were delicious and the cuties are much oh i know i know what i know what you're upset with i know i know what he's upset with me. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. It's okay.

I agree. That's, yeah, yeah, yeah. Something happens in translation in the process to those apple slices. I feel this way at McDonald's as well. There's a weird film on those apple slices now, I feel like. Yeah. To keep them, to keep apple slices fresher, I think, I do think they're putting something on them.

Because if you open up, if you do an apple and you cut it into slices leave it on a plate for an hour it's going to start to get weird yes the color is going to start to go so i do feel like there's some sort of those slices yeah i feel like there's some coating there's some shit on there that makes it like feel like fake and some of them de-skinned and most of the nutrients are in the skin is that right in apples yeah a lot of the the nutrients but most i believe so i don't know honestly i don't know see that i'm not i'm seeing you wrong uh yeah that's not a i feel like it's only the only the most picky kid i feel like is like no no peel on this apple for me yeah yeah yeah it's unnecessary i don't weird but the cuties i i gotta give it up for the cuties i mean if it was cuties or bananas like they come with their

own package they come with peel like it's people they don't know what we're talking about real quick that's a tiny little orange tiny little orange yeah seedless easy to peel. Yes. In some cases, in one case, serving as the stands for the hot dogs. Yes. Like we stick a cutie on either end. Thus, it does not tip over and spill the many ingredients. So now, and that's good. That's environmentally conscious. We're using.

Yes. Instead of putting some plastic piece in there to hold the hot dogs up. So I like that. And probably prevented us from scurvy, getting scurvy. That's a good point. Thanks. Yeah, the cuties were doing a lot of work for us all day. So thank you, cuties.

Thank you, cuties. One other thing, with Toontown closed at the moment, one location was off the table, that is pluto's dog house um and i don't know the quality of the hot dogs at pluto's dog house if quietly that is the best place i don't know what to say i've had one there i've eaten a hot dog there yes and i don't think it was anything special okay all right yeah which kind of kept happening if we ever heard for sure one is not right something special maybe it got pulled uh from the competition and when we talk about hot dogs and uh what makes them special i feel like we have to throw the ball

to jason i think you're the you're obviously the hot dog expert among the three of us. The entire hot dog fascination on the show comes from you and just the notion that you have them ever at your house, which still I find interesting. Yeah, do you have them right now in your fridge? I don't have any right now, but I did just finish some deli ham. Great. No longer ham in the house. No longer ham in the house. No longer ham in the house.

Because ham was in the house. Because it was on sale at Pavilions. Wonderful. So, well, I don't even know what to ask. Well, I guess maybe one question is what you're looking for in a quality hot dog. First off, I think interesting to note, this episode was not my idea this was you scott so i yes i appreciate um your innovation uh in this i appreciate you know we have to set each other up to succeed you guys if i can think of a hot dog vehicle for you to shine yeah bump set

spike you know you gotta work together to win the volleyball game um you know i think overall the very first thing you're looking for is taste i mean if it doesn't taste good why bother you know after that i think you start to get into like uh presentation you know and then uh i guess similar similar to taste, like elements. Like, do the parts of the whole, are they good together? Are they good separately? Temperature. Are these toppings making this slightly warm thing ice cold?

Oh, sure. Absolutely. I don't know that hot was the strong suit of any of the entrees yesterday in terms of food temperature. I don't think anything came out. I don't think anything was undercooked, but I think by the time we sat down and cut them up. Hot dog is cooked by definition.

It is already cooked kind of coming in. Well, it is cooked. You can eat a hot dog straight out of the package. For the most part, I think you can get raw hot dog straight out of the package uh for the most part i think you can get raw franks hmm i don't think we're wieners whatever you want to call them i'd like to call them wieners but um i feel like yeah most of the stuff you get at the store you could eat it raw it'll taste like bologna and if it's cold yeah yeah yeah and if you fry bologna it tastes like a hot dog sure in most cases so I'm just saying everything I think we ate yesterday,

I'm sure came out of a package cooked. Oh, yeah. It just needed to be warmer. It just needed to be heated up. Yeah. Have you been satisfied with the quality of hot dogs at Disneyland before? Has Disneyland's hot dog game met met your your needs and expectations no interesting okay okay explain i well for a long time uh the hot dogs were pretty bland

and they were served on very bland often approaching stale like wheat rolls yeah okay and so like yeah and i i think the like topping packets yesterday were pretty on point like you know a little diverse i feel like yeah better in the past so those have gotten some stuff has gotten better um i i don't think, I mean, LA still has a lot of like burger and hot dog places. Uh, so I think we're, we, we do, we do pretty well, especially here in the beautiful San Fernando Valley. There's a lot of places I've been here for decades that are still doing the same, you know, cooking burgers and Frank's the same way they have for a long time well which if if what you're getting at is the stuff that you can get locally within two miles of where you live that that

you're gonna find a better hot dog in your vicinity than at disneyland that that's how i feel i'm like i would say none of these nothing that we had i would describe as being one of the top 10 or 20 hot dogs i've ever beaten i don't think so and i'm not even looking for like fancy like i i like some of the stuff at wiener the local chain wiener schnitzel oh but if you drive by some of the buildings some of them still look like the cool funky like a-frame architecture and some of them look like they opened in the 90s and immediately got in a fight like the building got beat up somehow all that all over the map it's an all over the map franchise um but occasionally very solid um that said uh disneyland strong suit is the corn dog i think in general that is i think where

because it has the heat because it has the cushion because it's got to be the same hot it's got to be the same thing inside it might be everything we had i think everything we had is the same actual hot dog probably that is what i figured out very smartly figured out by the end of the day with one maybe two exceptions maybe one of them just by their definition i think one of them by different yeah yeah right that's yes yeah yeah but it's actually the same one still it's just got a little extra yes possibly yeah yeah um huh okay so we're so measured expectations already this is a go this is we're already uh let's let everybody know this is a competition between mediocre hot dogs i think it it has gotten better uh-huh which is not it's not saying a lot

um i think one place that used to be worse is actually better i mean look i don't want to tip i don't want to tip i let's i think we should just start getting into it yeah i uh well i agree that we should start getting into it but i think as just a little uh short for the feature sure there is one thing that happened yesterday that we need to talk about before we head into the bulk of the hullabaloo and that is what happened right before we left disneyland right uh let's explain so uh fun day hijink filled day in general but i think the best hijinks were saved for the very end i was waiting for you guys outside of the california adventure location trolley treats where you were mobile ordering snacks to treats to take home yes uh for the what have you

consumed those by the way no those are sitting in a bag okay yeah i was not your treats what'd you get um i got like a rainbow mickey like rice crispy treat with like rainbows like not sprinkles but rainbow like uh what do you call those that are not sprinkles but they're different decorative uh like cupcake things you know like it's like shavings like colored shavings but they're not sprinkles okay i'm not sure yeah i don't know what the name is jason treat um yeah i got well we each first off you can mobile order treats at uh the candy stores now which is actually interesting that you can mobile order at more of a take-home or something that could be a take-home situation yes that's something you got to eat right then i already have a grievances about it because the walk-up menu is much more detailed there's many more

options than it was on the mobile order like you were i was a little like doing it on the fly doing it pretty quickly because you were in line and mike had already placed his and i was just trying to pick something to bring back for me and something to bring back for jane i brought her like a rice crispy treat on a stick that had peanut butter and chocolate on it uh and then for myself i mostly ate this i i couldn't find the exact one on the app but it it's a more uh the strawberry shortcake marshmallow wand it was a bunch of marshmallows dipped in white chocolate and then covered in strawberry flavored confectioners coating crushed cookies and dried strawberry pieces wow it tasted like a strawberry shortcake ice cream bar but marshmallows instead of an ice cream base i thought it was delicious oh great so

that was good that at night or in the morning? A little at night, a little right before I came here. Just a coating to coat your stomach. Just a coating, you know. There's also, I don't think it played out this way, but we were talking about, all right, we're heading into the hot dog hullabaloo. We're saying like, we got to like make sure, okay, we need sustenance and things that our body needs

before we get there. Like make sure to have a healthy breakfast. And then, I think we said that, did an episode, and then on the way out from doing the episode, you said, oh, maybe we can grab one of those cornbread donuts from Dunkin'. It's Dunkin' Seasonal Donut. I did not eat it yesterday. I ate it the day before.

I just had like a granola bar and some peanut butter before, and then I showed up at mike's we all carpooled and he offered me a donut and had presented each us each with a bottle of coca-cola starlight oh yes waiting in our chariot that's right it was my first experience with coke star yes and your last i assume yes yeah oh it ended it was uh one sip one not only would be one sip he wouldn't let his taste buds experience it and create the antibodies that he needed to enjoy it like ours our bodies have and i have coca-cola starlight cans at home and i meant to throw some in my bag to present and forgot it going out the door next time so i whipped it because we could have had a car full of zero sugar coca-cola starlight in various uh bottles cans you know made the day

better i think if we had had more which you were in talking about like or if the the the corn dog lining might help you said during the day well yeah this hot dog thing is going to be grueling but i am armed with coke starlight that was going to offset i also had and i didn't go for either of them i had a travel thing of tums and i had a can of perrier uh just in case a little bubble water soothe this soothe the stomach um yeah coke starlight i did not spit it out It was not a bizarre taste to me and not so different than other, especially like zero sugar sodas. But that, boy, that aftertaste just lingered and lingered.

It got worse and worse. It's making me thirsty just thinking about the aftertaste. Why do you want that? Is this just like, because you don't really like, in the way that you i don't think you will drink just straight whiskey probably usually you need to load it up with shit like coke starlight no no no no i will drink a straight whiskey okay okay got it all right but either way direct assumption on my part but i can handle it i'm tough i'm a man

i'm a traditional masculine uh man but no i my body cannot. It just did not recognize Coke Starlight as a desirable taste to have. My tongue was so upset. You know what? You gotta try a mini can. I poured a mini can in like a highball glass, like a tall glass. And it only filled it like halfway.

I took a few sips. It's mostly gone. You drank a Coke Starlight in like a cocktail? Just a regular glass, like a regular tumbler. It's mostly gone. You drank a Coke Starlight in like a cocktail? Well, just a regular glass, like a regular tumbler. Big piece of ice, clink, clink, clink. Yeah. Hello, darling. I'm drinking my Starlight.

I've only seen it in like the 16-ounce bottles or the 7.5-ounce can. And you're a fan. I do like it. Yeah, I do. Okay. Don't. All right. More power to you. I didn like it. Yeah, I do. Okay. Don't. All right. More power to you.

I didn't understand. But so, anyway, you guys are ordering your treats. I was not getting a treat for myself. So, my attention is wandering, and I realize there is a character line not that far from us. Yes. It is a line for Mickey Mouse. And I thought, thought well we did this episode about how hugs are back if you didn't hear that on the patreon this is a new this is

a recent thing that one of the last little things unlocked about pre-pandemic parks is that you can hug the characters again uh and get up close and interact with your favorite disney characters so uh i see mickey i'm like well we gotta do this is a tweet we gotta like we gotta post this maybe we posted it by now uh if you're listening to this uh we all gotta hug mickey and do some kind of hugs our back post that'll be nice right uh i'm sort of saying that out loud to you mike maybe you're thinking about treats a little bit um i would call you like half interested in this at best you're kind of a little glazed over your man like okay then i look over and see another character line and that line is for

mini mouse yes i said oh or there's a mini mouse line and you said oh mini like spark like lit up color in your face now flapper mini at that flapper mini posture like shut like you were like hunched over and then you grew a few inches yes that is true all 100 correct uh and also i said oh and i know this sounds like some sort of excuse just for my pervertness to to get in line to take a picture with mini but i said oh mini is the one who always hugs me because this is going to be an important part of the story because i've never ever gone and be like, I'm going to get my hands on Minnie. Like, that's not.

So Minnie always hugs me. So I said, let's do Minnie especially because Minnie is so much more, hello. She's always got her arms outstretched, welcoming you in. And I said, that's going to be an easier slam dunk because I don't think all the characters are necessarily like that.

They're not like Chewbacca. So that's also another reason why.'s a cruel irony coming to the yeah well yes so i so my because what we're about to reveal my expectations versus what happened is the thing that completely threw me off and completely ruined this bit that we were talking about oh i don't know i the opposite well i love how this played out i love how this played out no i think it's good too but we get in a we get in line for many and we're discussing how are we going to do the like do we count as one group i feel like we all need separate photos yeah separate hugs she can't hug all of us at once uh do we give a phone to a cast member do we want them all to be on the same phone how do we play this um and then we

well yeah let's all go up individually and then mike in my recollection how you described this was okay well i'll take the photos and you do it and then jason do it and i'll get i'll get your pictures and then i'll go in with mini and then you guys just like keep taking them and taking them and taking them and taking them this is what. This is what you said out loud. Uh-huh. Okay. Just keep going because I'm just going to keep going at it and just like. I don't think I said I'm going to keep going at it. You did not. You did not say that.

Okay. But that was the attitude that I felt. Got it. From this particular photo dimension. Sure, sure. Keep that camera rolling, okay? Don't ever cut. You wanted a couple angles.

You didn't want to end up with just one Zapruder film. I wanted a two camera shoot. Two want to end up with just one zapruder film i wanted it like i wanted a two camera shoot two to three camera shoot you know good yeah so i go up i ask minnie for a hug i hug minnie jason does the same yeah uh so we have hug photos we have hug photo and you went in pretty fast and then i was like oh i'll go in for a hug and it felt like they were the cast member was doing it begrudgingly this is what i'm saying grab my hand and did a pose yes they were the the the this is the cast member was very good at doing like you know pose like you know hand through the arm or like grab my hand and like put both their hands on mine i sense this energy i i was just like oh i don't yeah i know

why i don't do this now i don't know why i don't usually i said i'm so very sorry this is not the mini who's hugged me in florida this is not the same mini i said i i did a little like kind of gesture like this walking up to mini as if like a light are we maybe going to the mini was not interested so i said put her arm through your yeah so i said okay i'm gonna just so so i'm in general about hugging i'm not a big hugger you guys don't know me to hug you after every record or anything that's no we don't know we did it again yeah we did it to him again another one i'm not anti-hug or anything but i'm generally like i need like i need the person who's gonna hug me to give me like five good signs five good go-ahead signs and then let's hug i'm i'm happy to do it this many was not giving me the the all clear sign so i said i'm just gonna shake

minnie's hand for the first time this is the first time i've taken a photo with minnie in the last so many years that minnie did not hug and smooch me you went you went reverted back to your high school first date yes i did like well yes i did good luck in your future endeavors yes great meeting you that is exactly what happened and it kind of didn't occur to me i think jason was taking the pictures and until that we broke off and started leaving the park that was the first thing i realized wait mike did not hug i did not hug the entire point of us didn't doing this and i asked what happened and you said very sheepishly i got nervous well i did i was nervous to hug this garden grove 23 year old it's also weird i feel like the suits used to be puffier than some of the new character stuff they're just wearing like a green man suit with clothes over it i'm a head

i'm also as big as herman munster i'm a frankenstein like a very small mini yeah so i i'm aware sometimes of uh i'm not as tall as chewywy, but I'm like, I don't know. This Minnie also had just gotten through like hugging somebody for like a minute and a half. Did you see this? No. You guys were, I think your back was to me. Minnie was hugging this somebody for like forever. And I was like, I'm sure that's really sweet.

And that person really is enjoying this hug. But like I was the performer. I'm thinking about the logistics of the performer. And I'm like, also, can she see me can minnie see me like and she's looking up so all of this is getting in my head and i got like nervous and i'm like i know it's not a huge deal i go but then i all of a sudden i kind of like blacked out a little bit and i just like shook minnie's hand and then took a photo and she like made she put her arm through my arm to take the photo and then i like kind of in a daze like and just went, I didn't do it.

I didn't hug. I didn't do it. I didn't hug. No hug. I'll say this. Didn't happen. That was a great, I think that was great. There were two very little kids in front of us.

They walked up to Minnie. And Minnie spent so much time, signed autographs for both, hugged both of them, took a bunch of pictures. Oh, pictures oh yeah they were and there is a long line too i think they saw they got to us and they're like jesus christ we have so many people the park is closing we are the people who suddenly like okay we gotta get these creeps out of here they have their hand on the boat they have their hand a lot of family like i there are people we i actually have to they have their hand on the stone were you paranoid like we are the thing that tipped it until the three men came the vibes were great and then it was and that we got to start gunning it and save many from a little self conscious public i won't lie i'm a little self-conscious about that uh so yeah i don't i

don't yeah i don't think that they're like, all right, get your hands on your, like every cast member has their hand on their gun, like ready to go if they see us. I don't think it's that severe. But I am like, they're like, okay, buddy, what is this? Who are you? What podcast do you do? Again, I disagree.

There is no way that we, the three of us, are the creepiest people who are going for a hug of a character that day. That is true. We were pretty efficient, though, in our movement. We had the camera stuff laid out. We were all boom, boom, boom, got out of there. That's true, which other people probably aren't.

There are actual lingerers, especially if you're a face character princess, as we learned. That's another thing entirely. But yes, all the things i'm telling you sensing weird thing my general hug uh philosophy my hug the the um the ghost signals i need for a hug all of those things were not working and then i as i told you i just kind of went hello minnie how are you and then we took the photo and then i left and i went well i didn't do the bit okay on the bright side none of us panic fired and went where my hug at one of the one of

the worst phrases of the late 20th century just like crime straight to jail with you they would have they would have put us in disney jail if i said hey minnie where my hug at if we tell that story. We lose everything. The Carthay area jazz band, they put their instruments down and grab weapons. Beat us. The backup weapons and the crowbars and the cases.

Disney still has a bunch of Anaheim 1990 phone books when they were like giant. Just like in case they really have to teach you a lesson yeah well anyway we have our photos and that's the story behind them yes yeah if you wonder why there was no mic hug no uh look um yeah and that's look i'll go back to florida where minnie is like she's fighting to hug me she She's asking for the hug. So there you go. She's forcing you. Right.

Yes. Okay. So all of that said, a sidetrack. Now let's get into the hullabaloo. Yes. And let's kind of step through how the day progressed. I think especially this works because the first location we stopped was kind of a base of, kind of just no frills set. Like, what is a basic, unadorned Disneyland hot dog like?

And that is at the downtown Disney location, Diggity Dogs, where we ordered what was described as a Nathan's Original All Beef hot dog. Yeah, flag on the field immediately, right at the start i i don't believe those were nathan's hot dogs yeah yeah i'm not super familiar but i do recall nathan's being an elevated brand and i think it's one of those where the brand's gotten watered down i think it might be like when a place says they serve starbucks or coffee bean coffee but what does that mean what does it it does not like yeah that can what does it really it does not like yeah that can still be it's it's hypothetical they've watered the brand down scott i think

you're exactly right i think we're looking at the uh wholesale supplier of like the lower rung nathan's wholesaling because a real nathan's hot dog i was yelling about this last night to jade and anyone who would listen at midnight it was late yeah it was uh uh usually longer skinnier a darker color than these hot dogs oh you're right yes they're recognizable that's like that's like Wendy's square patty they have there's things about them yeah these were exactly the same as the ones in the park yes I think this this is a stand that's probably very serviceable for families with young children who will only eat hot dogs. They're in the middle of downtown Disney.

A child is screaming for a hot dog. Oh, thank God, there's a little stand there that sells plain hot dogs. Yes. So it likely serves a purpose. I want hot dogs. I only eat hot dogs. Oh, honey, what are we going to do? We're in downtown Disney. There's a're in disney there's a there's

a stand right there what do you what it's not a place where you get dogs or dog supplies is it no it's hot dogs it doesn't it seems very utilitarian it's not the like impulse buy of like the different flavor churros that aren't the disney churros or like the little maca though like four dollar macaroons yeah yeah it's a it's a it's a good it's just a basic uh we went and we got this basic uh which had no which came with nothing that's just like in the foil and we all got our own condiments uh for for me and this is this would be my go-to for hot dogs in general my third i put i used relish and spicy brown mustard which the disney variety is goldens for spicy mustard go with goldens go with gold how did you guys we've given left to your own

devices what do you uh well what's your okay of choice? Okay, I did a couple things. I tried it plain. These are small bites, but I tried it plain. I tried it with, yes, and I'm from Chicago. This is a no-no, but I do eat it with ketchup sometimes. I know people say that's wrong, but I do like it. So I tried it with just ketchup, and then I also tried one bite with relish and Golden's. So I tried all three.

Great. Yeah, Golden's a So I tried all three. Great. Yeah, Golden's a Sheridan family favorite, always in the house growing up. And love to see the packets, always like the packets. Packets widely available at Disneyland. You pocketed a whole like 50 of them to take home too. That does sound like something my mother would do. Mix them in with Coke Starlight in your highball glass.

Same with change and old receipts. Yeah. So I did Golden's and whatever relish I could get out of the packets. I fucking, I love relish. I hate those fucking relish packets. It is not an item meant to be in packets. There's got to be a better way. Because you either open too small a hole and you get mostly relish juice or as happened late in the day yesterday i opened a

packet and it exploded and somehow did not explode onto me just exploded onto like my place setting and the table yeah yeah they've got to be bigger if nothing else which sometimes they are but yeah relish packets cannot be the same size as ketchup and mustard yeah it's as tidy as that yeah it's better with this i know it's messier but it's better with some sort of squirt pump mechanism pump mechanism to get your relish yeah absolutely very inefficient but i think they've standardized like the condiment allotment like everywhere seemed to have the same sort of setup. Likely, I think some of them used to have more pump setups. I think those pulled at the start of the pandemic reopening.

And now have given way to just like packets of everything. So yeah, just like fine basic hot dog. by the way this one probably the most humiliating to that's in combat there's two moments i think were the most humiliating split ups this one was tough because they did not have knives at this location because surely we do not need to stock knives who will be splitting up hot dogs a la mic, Donald, and Goofy, splitting up the one bean and checking the beanstalk? Never have we resembled that trio more. So splitting up this plain hot dog just using forks is very embarrassing, but nobody is

around. And you know what? We got to sit just in the fountain at Downtown Disney, a nice little bench spot. The family from Jason's story had not come yet to see us do this, so we didn't get embarrassed by them. Too early for breakdowns. Yeah. So, you know, it was just, it was fine.

There's a part of me that's like, you know, maybe just a basic unadorned hot dog oddly takes it. But I think, I didn't like the aftertaste of this. I felt, I wrote down the word soupy i felt like it just kind of like a just kind of a weird dirty water i wrote juice i wrote juicy down juicy is maybe a bit that's a more optimistic way to play i didn't hate this dog no i wrote juicy looked weird plain not that they all don't look weird plain but there was something about it that was a little unappealing i would say you know a lot of stuff steamed or boiled and then just put on rollers i as a a big points across the board deducted no grilled dogs today i feel like

too much infrastructure too much infrastructure but it's easy easy to elevate sure yeah big time yeah i this you know what this reminded me of it was not as wet but it's i i said this before on the show that my favorite part of playing soccer as a little kid was getting the hot dog and the soda afterward sure and the pot dog would be wrapped and it was just it was so wet by the end of like the game whenever they had made them and brought them over to the field the hot dog would be pretty like wet and juicy and this is it did remind me of that so i did have a little flashback to my favorite part of soccer eating a delicious wet hot dog all right well something about like the classic yeah i love it by the way i think we

have not established how we're going to do the scoring on this. And my thought was to make this mathematical and also kind of Olympic style where we are. We're going on a scale of one to ten. Us individual judges are tallying up. We do our own score and then we take like a mean of the three. Yes. And that becomes the official score and then we lock in our scores without saying them out loud to each other so that it is a surprise to us by the end yes and we enter it into the spreadsheet who won right so with that said do we think that we would you guys be comfortable from one to ten locking in a score

yes on diggity dogs okay happy to um then let's just uh we'll do that i think i've got okay i've been locking in my score i'm locking my score okay um great so just you know keeps an air of uh surprise okay this day we will find out at the at the very end right um so that is our feelings about diggity dogs. Is there something interfering with your happiness or preventing you from achieving your goals? Well, we've got the solution. The Sebastian Jackal episode of Podcast the Ride. Later this month on our Patreon, we're posting an episode about Sebastian Jackal, the character played by Christopher Lloyd on UPN's 1995 series, Deadly Games.

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Games. Now we move, well, first things first, we try to go for, you know, what might be the big dog, the heavily anticipated dog of the day, the one that inspired this idea a little bit, which was seeing the big junkyard chili dog at Ballast Point, at a sit-down Disney, downtown Disney location, Ballast Point. Saw that at some bar seating, saw somebody enjoying that big old, like, massive overflowing hot dog.

That thing's impressive. We got to go try that. We head to downtown Disney. It's a little after 11, not open. Ballast Point, not open. We don't know what's going on. Website says it should be open by then. I don't know.

Maybe we're going to have to check back in later. So we will check back in later with Ballast Point. Instead, we go into the park, a very late entrance into Disneyland. A lot of hot dog hijinks before we actually go into Disneyland Park. But on the way, we mobile order from Refreshment Corner. And this might be the most iconic hot dog location,

I feel, in Disneyland. I think it's been a hot dog stand forever. Maybe one of the first. I don't know the history of the place. Maybe we'll do an episode down the road. But two hot dogs from here. Let's talk about the first, which was the Electric Relish Dog. Does anyone have the description in front of them, or should I go for it?

I do. Okay. Yeah. An interesting one. An interesting one. You know, I think electric, this is a seasonal return of um the main street electrical parade oh that's okay so this might not be there all this might glow away much like the parade itself so then it'll be back every uh constantly yes whenever they need

money lucy will let us kick the football one day um The electric relish dog, all beef hot dog, bacon, mustard cheese sauce, electric relish, and sport peppers. Electric relish doesn't tell me a lot. No. It's an electric relish dog, and the ingredient is electric relish. I guess it's just there's a little more going on. You know, there's like those little pops and seeds, whatever. Little seeds from like pickles, but some peppers and kind of like a hoagie spread

yeah and pickles relish is already like a weird neon color yeah which i'm sure is food coloring but it's not it's it's not like the chicago like bright green relish it was like more like a pepper it was not as bright as that you're right yeah but but it's still pretty bright pretty bright so it is it is it makes sense with the main street electrical parade yes yeah well interesting seasonal item um i'll just say i was a fan of this one i liked this i will say i was also a fan of this one could very well go all the way today this was very surprising of like wow this is good like i liked this a lot um i didn't get that it was a mustard cheese sauce i thought it was just nacho cheese yeah i didn't either but i liked whatever it was i actually missed the the ingredient i was not and i was like is this mustard or is this

cheese but it landed in this beer cheese kind of zone or at least a theme park equivalent and i tend to like anything in that genre so yeah that's great and that's just kind of zone or at least a theme park equivalent and i tend to like anything in that genre so yeah that's great and that's just kind of slathered on the back um and then you you you really sense that flavor separate from everything else that really like shines through pops through um you get just a full piece of bacon lining the entire not wrapped but just like, you know, bacon down the middle. Crispy and properly cooked. Yeah. Shocking. Yes, for Disney.

For Disney. I've had much better pieces of bacon. I've had better pieces of bacon. Yes, you're right. I've had worse at Disney. But if you buy the pre-cooked bacon that you can just microwave and you do it correctly and it gets crisp, that's sort of what this was. Yeah.

Yeah, totally. The bar kind of low so they surpassed it handily i think like fun textures as part of like between bacon and uh and that electric relish and then the snap of the the peppers that was an interesting component to have on there i sport peppers yeah a nice maybe one of the more unique ingredients. I wrote disgusting in the best way. Ah, because you're after with hot dog. If you're after,

especially the Disney, it's not going to be a classy hot dog. If you want like all the, all the layers of like fake cheese and artificial color, whatever, if it all goes good, like it all goes together and yes i i found it very good i found it satisfying in a in a trashy way yeah if you want an indulgent kind of like

carnival theme parky kind of lunch this is this is a good a good one yeah yeah uh i also noticed at this location hot dogs unless i, I mean, it's possible these are all the same dog, but I felt like it was a little longer. I think you maybe got a little bit of both. It was longer. You're right. Could it have been the same ingredients in the dog? Probably, but I don't know.

Yes. Yeah, yeah. Maybe they just cut them a little longer. It could have been tasted worse, honestly. All the ingredients were slopped on there, and it didn't even matter. Yeah. I think you got to give it up. worse honestly all the ingredients were slopped on there and it didn't even matter yeah i think you got to give it up that that's so that's one way to notch up hot dog and scoring is if you

feel like you're getting some value yeah that's a little bit of bonus every inch counts yes that's true even if it's just a little bit that's right it's doing something it's doing something uh so uh then we move to the other dog from this location the mac and cheese dog topped with bacon bits that's the full description there's no further way to the bacon bits always taste a little bit like dog treats yeah this bacon uh on the other hand sucked yeah that's not yeah no and bits coming right after a full hearty piece. Bits cannot hold up to a piece. I don't, yeah. It's piece all the way.

Piece all the way. Piece all the way. I don't know how they cook these bits. It seemed remarkably different. I didn't. Like, they didn't just cook strips and pound them with a hammer. Pound them.

Jason just made a pounding motion. It was not, they were thicker was not they were like a big mallet but they were less flavorful and greasier i don't these are okay so this is this this is basically the same i will sometimes have the mac and cheese cone in cars land with the cone it's got the like bread kind of bowl that's in the shape of a cone and if this is the exact same mac and cheese exact same bacon bits and these are consistent i don't hate the bacon bits as much as yours as you do but they're not they don't taste like they should call it something different so my expectations are not set for

bacon i don't know the meat meat bites meat uh just make it more generic or something and i'm i don't have the expectation of bacon then yeah sure sure but you okay so you're you're okay with you like that mac and cheese yeah it's separately you've been okay with uh yeah and i say okay is a good word where it's like i gotta eat something quick and i can walk around with it and then i can eat the cone it's kind of nothing it's it's like a less it's like a less good stouffer's mac and cheese like it's not a lot of texture it's like a less good Stouffer's mac and cheese. Like it's not a lot of texture. It's just really creamy. It's just kind of a non-entity. I judge mac and cheese pretty harshly because I try to not have it very often.

I want that to be like a real treat, really done well if I'm going to go for it in some sort of like gastropub or indulgent restaurant setting. So if it lets me down and it's just boring and nothing uh what a bummer because i'm probably not going to use that slot again for a little bit scott i'm right there with you i i like a really nice like baked or homemade mac and cheese or i want a craft blue box i want the the shaky the bag of powder with milk and butter that you do to your taste.

What about Amy? Do you do Amy's ever? I like Amy's. Yeah, I like those. He has a strong one, I think. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Amy's good shells, I believe.

You can do shells. I've done shells. I've done the fun rabbit shapes. I can do all that. Like shells, like a licensed character shape. Well, sure, yeah. A SpongeBob or whatever, you know. I haven't had one of those in a while.

At some point in my parenting journey i'm sure i will um yeah the whole thing about i think with this but with this dog is it may be all there's something i realized about my own taste i think i need um something to cut through and that can be a little bit of spice or something even a little bitter or just like an interesting crunch or a texture like if it's all if all the components are bland and there's not a texture. Like if it's all, if all the components are bland and there's not like the one ingredient, if it's all base and then there's no, there's nothing up high end,

like gliding through the base, then that doesn't work for me. And this all just felt like, you know, you need like, I think a snap can be that. There was no snapping, I would say all day. That's another big detriment to all of these dogs. That's why I was also like, this is Nathan's bottom-of-the-barrel licensed hot dog.

This is not a real Nathan's hot dog. The smallest screen that IMAX offers. Even a poorly prepared Nathan's hot dog still has the spices and a little bit of the snap. Does anyone make a nathan's around here i don't think i've ever had and if i mean maybe i haven't just didn't realize it but is there a place to get a nathan's hot dog that i've always heard so much about buy them at the store and pan fry them yourself i don't want to do that though i want someone to

make it some places do use nathan's as their stock okay nathan's or hebrew national i think are the high end of like easily acquired hot dogs. Yeah. I'm a Vienna beef guy because that's like a Portillo style, which I late tried to float to Scott

the idea that we were going to take you and us to Portillo's last night to finish off this, but we did not do it. You didn't tell me that. Would you have gone for it? He'd have no choice.

He's in the car. Yeah, I would have gone, but I would have opted for a cake shake. After all that, then a cake shake after all that then after all that that's right oh my god because i don't know after we went to the woodbridge mall mike and i went to a portillo's drive-thru i've never had a cake shake honestly i i demolished a cake the cake shake was immediately so good and i was i was like as i as i picked it up i was like i'm not

gonna drink all this and i think by the time i was in walking to mike's family's house it was like i finished the cake you were you're a treat terminator you can't be stopped like you just treat terminate i did control myself because as we were walking towards the exit last night i was like i might get ice cream and i was like no don't push your luck just get a treat to go it's like you see the world through the terminator eyes and like there's targets and then like ice cream i target identified yeah rocky road if there was gonna be art of jason as the treat terminator like are those so are the robot parts replaced with um ice cream cones and and hot dogs and is the red is the red robot eye a big cherry well yeah you know what i think it's that's good

but it's also like some of the robot parts are like an ice cream scooper on the end of one of the arm like t it would be more like t1000 rather than yeah it could be like t1000 where he can kind of change his shape so it could be like his arm into an ice cream scooper or like a cake slicer. Yeah. Yeah. Pizza roller. Pizza slicer. I was going to say, what's the thing that you make ice cream in?

Oh, just an ice cream maker. Like a tumbler? With a crank? Oh, yeah. With salt? Yeah. So imagine, yeah, Robert Patrick's arms turn into an ice cream maker with a crank. This is, I really, I leave that up to up to you want to like use arnold as a base

do you want it to be robert patch whatever i just want some version of this to exist i think somebody will help us out i think we know where we're heading with these you want to lock in our scores for the two refreshment corner locations uh let's see i think i I know it. Um, yeah. Locking it in. Okay. Uh, and as you guys continue to lock in now, we, I believe move over to the hot dog that we had a sit down reservation. Yeah. We reserved a spot at the craftsman bar, a location we really like in the grand Californian

hotel. One of the great recent additions, this wonderful, where you get the vibe of the hotel pool and the fake Sequoia vibes as well. Just what a relaxing, what a great place. And I was delighted to discover

that they have a hot dog of the month that rotates through their lineup. Food there, I've always found pretty solid great place to drink too so i was really looking forward to this and kind of delighted that they had a hot dog of the month yes um we also well here let's so i guess let's say it first uh with jason you had a little more intel uh it's a little not uh arch, but you found a little something about it. So, like, on the QR code menu you had to use, it just said hot dog of the month. Ask your server.

Yeah, ask your server. Which is always funny. Could you, yes, what's your wine list? And what is the hot dog of the month? But on the regular browser website, hot dog of the month this month just the month of may pretty new um the gordita dog beef hot dog on lightly grilled flatbread with black bean spread melty cheese crema pica de gallo and micro cilantro served with tortilla chips incorrect we got seasoned fries the menu said chips and we got because the fries felt

strange uh but delicious the fries were very easily some of the best fries on disney property great batter yeah boy that is a yeah but i'll be looking out for fries at that location now we talked about eliminating this because it's it's kind of heading into Rontorap territory. I think the naming of hot dog of the month is what kept it in the competition. It is still a hot dog. And look, it's a wiener inside. At the end of the day, it's a wiener. That's right.

This didn't work for me. No, it didn't. No, it didn't work. No, Jason disagreed. I thought it was delicious. I thought it was delicious, but with some faults. Okay. Okay.

All of those toppings. This is, I think, all those individual toppings I liked. But when you put them all together on flatbread, that admittedly had been cut into three portions. Yes, we may have destroyed a lot of these with the methods maybe you got like a gooier sauce or something with the goo goo is the word i was going to use all of these toppings kind of destroyed the texture it just felt like a big goo dog but a big goo dog i i and the dog i'm pretty sure it was just the same hot dog. I think it's exactly the same hot dog everywhere else. This is where I would expect, if not an elevated dog,

at least a charred dog a little. Yes, and because the pizzas at that spot are fantastic. I actually really like the food at this bar. It's not just like, you know, theme park food, but arranged better on a plate. Lobster quesadilla, very tasty. Man, for sharing. Do not eat it yourself

you will feel bad i learned this the hard way about two months ago okay okay i i but i was trying to taste some of this stuff like even i was trying to get the pico de gallo alone if you noticed i was eating pieces of the pico de gallo alone and i go i don't think this pico de gallo is very good yeah i agree i did not it was not very fresh it was not individual ingredients yeah and it was it was gooey and like individual ingredients. Yeah, and it was gooey. And the bean sauce was okay, and it was obscuring every other taste. And it wasn't particularly delicious. It wasn't anything more special than a Taco Bell bean, which I have once a week.

So I know my Taco Bell beans. Come on. Once a week? You're slipping. Oh, good question. Maybe it's usually at least once. And yeah, it's sort of, I couldn't taste the hot dog at all. You taste this kind of like non-flavorful bean sauce.

Couldn't taste the pico de gallo at all. And then the wrap was just very bland and like didn't taste like anything. It wasn't like a delicious flour tortilla or anything. Yeah, and it didn't have, that didn't have the char that you can maybe end up with yeah yeah it was rontos you can't help but compare it to ronto i feel like oh yeah get that flatbread as part of it this is a good idea i guess but i don't the execution and the ingredients i was very disappointed i was excited when we asked the server i was looking forward to it yeah. I did then feel the most shame of the day when she brought our drinks and then said, and you guys are just doing the hot dog of the month?

Yes, I also felt shame there as well. Yeah, yeah. And we thought about ordering a second one. Yeah, but I'm glad we didn't. It was bad, yeah. It's probably better we didn't. Wow, I didn't realize you guys felt so strongly. We were kind of pulling our punches yesterday in terms of our reactions oh we all looked down we're all staring

i feel like at the table yeah some of the reaction like you couldn't help making a comment or two here there and then some facial reactions i feel like we all had like a oh yeah yeah yeah yeah couldn't hold it back entirely can i talk about my error my like yellow oh i know what it is now yes yeah um so uh i didn't feel like ordering a cocktail you guys had some beautiful looking ginger margaritas how were those very good very fun a good first like drink yeah a little sugary so that's like your first one and then you could change to something less intense. Yeah, I didn't really feel like a drink, a cocktail cocktail. I wanted a little sugar kick. I noticed a lot of places are starting to add, you know, mocktails, non-alcoholic cocktails.

I thought I would try that. So I ordered the coconut fruit punch, which was just essentially like a Mike-style candy drink. Simply fruit punch, coconut water, simply limeade, vitamin water, energy tropical citrus with a splash of Sprite. And then there were coconut shavings on top. This made me feel so puffy. It was delicious, but even more so than the multiple hot dog segments I had eaten. Finishing this whole like tall glass of fruit punch candy juice which is not uh surprisingly for a man who likes sweets fruit

punch is not often a go-to it tasted good um it was something different but i was like i was happy for the walk to california adventure too before we had to eat more hot dogs. I would say any break in the hot dog eating was crucial. Yes. Much needed. Yeah, well, you know, we all had to think about how we're going to pace ourselves and what's going to help us along.

Yes, drinking a bunch of candy, maybe not a good idea. Today, I'm feeling like having a bunch of wine and beer was not a good idea, but, you know, hey, it made it go down smoother. It gave me the energy I needed during the day, so no regrets then. Yeah. You know, here's what I think. I think that this program, the Hot Dog of the Month program at the Craftsman Bar, I think a different Craftsman Hot Dog of the month could take it I feel that they have

quality in them but I don't know that this one or just did not work for me I think recently there was like a pig in the blanket style dog when I was there before it was a pastrami dog okay yeah I think they're I think they're getting too full of themselves over there and they're thinking they can do anything at that kitchen and they can't you can't put

anything on it anything doesn't work you know like I think just play it a little bit more like with the with the hits play it a little more with what works pick some blanket it works chicago dog sure always reliable i don't think i've i'm sure there's bad chicago dogs but i feel like just there's so many toppings it's a great preparation of hot dog yeah yeah i agree not one of those yesterday okay well we do we feel good we want to by the way i should put uh um fractions decimals on the table i don't think it has to be a clean i'm doing 0.5 i'm doing 0.5 yeah yeah all right great 2.2 is 2.916 whatever you want to do yeah um i think i've locked mine in, so now we keep moving to another one of the primary spots

where hot dogs can be found and expectations should be high, hot dogs being their bread and butter. Yeah. And that is the infamous award wieners. Well, we did something. Oh, you're totally right. I apologize. I didn't mean to cut you off.

No, no, no. You are correct because at this point in the day really what we did was go and check in again on the once closed ballast point because that junkyard dog i saw with my own eyes gentlemen i really think this thing has what it takes to to take it all the way it was a very impressive looking hot dog we walk up to ballast point and ask if we could get a table for three and it is a it is an attitude it is a scoff is what i feel like the idea that we could be so foolish as to think we could just waltz right up to ballast point it was spago and beverly hills and we were like dressed in like the worst like the newspaper and like we our hair was messed up and we were like dressed in like the worst, like the newspaper and like we,

our hair was messed up and we were like, just came from like sweeping a chimney or something. And we were like table now. That was the attitude we got from the person at you ballast. Well, you want to eat here. Spago actually very accommodating. A lot of the rich people look like shit in there.

Okay. Fine. Like shit. And I have been, uh, it's also pretty utilitarian like you can you probably just walk into the bar order the full menu yeah well mr mr fancy again anyway let's get back to my real passion hot dogs uh yeah um yeah and i was like I know. I mean, who are we to think that we could just walk up here at 3.30 on a Tuesday and get a table to get a beer and a hot dog? I mean, this place obviously is always jammed to the brim.

By the way, and the precedent is said that, like, you know, you can check for later today, but you kind of got to do it days in advance. Also, already weird, because that hostess uh the host stand always there i'd never seen anyone there before you i have i have because a month ago i walked up during a lunch rush and said hey do you have a table oh yeah 10 minute wait and walked right up and i've and the time before that and the time before that ballast point was becoming a go-to and i never waited more than 10 minutes sometimes walked right up. And the time before that. And the time before that. Ballast Point was becoming a go-to, and I never waited more than 10 minutes.

Sometimes walked right up at a busy lunchtime, and it was fine. This new thing of you got to do it days in advance. Days in advance. What do you mean? On OpenTable. Uh-huh. Not on the Disney app.

You can't do it off Disneyland.com. There's no way to find a way to make reservations. It's not in the app. You fucked up. I was so ready to give you another chance.com. There's no way to find a way to make reservations. It's not in the app. I was so ready to give you another chance. Jason, if everybody doesn't know, Jason has been mad at Ballast Point ever since he saw in a grocery store that their beer was a dollar more than a normal beer.

And you know what? There's so many more micro breweries available now making just as good for less per unit. And another, if you don't remember, one of the famous catchphrases of the show was born that day. I don't think we've referenced it in a while. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Who gives a fuck about grapefruit? Shit. Who gives a shit about grapefruit? Who gives a shit about grapefruit? Yeah, because we were just talking about the grapefruit. The raw anger that you were boiling, boiling like a hot dog. And it turned out Jason was right.

Because eventually Bella's point would come to bite us. I was ready to let bygones be bygones. I was ready, like, you know what? Let's give him another shot. Because my experience has usually been the other kind of annoying, where it's like you walk upstairs and it's kind of like first come, first serve, every man for himself, that kind of bar thing where you just kind of have to sit and wait are you are you leaving are you like indoor or outdoors um or you just walk into the bar others and i

wouldn't see i'll just take hey what do you want you know that's that's been my experience yeah what happened this had this had become i had declared this this is my new favorite down to disney oh wow place And how does it suddenly, within a month, it is a line out the door. Is this Chapek's fault somehow? It's gotta be. Gotta be Chapek's fault.

Gotta be. Yeah, yeah. It would be DeSantis' fault somehow. I know this is California, but this might be retribution in some way. He's fucking with Ballast Point. Anything's possible right now.

But what they didn't count on, and I didn't, you know, I didn't make on and i didn't you know i didn't make the the hostess uh deal with this this isn't on her it's on the corporation of course but i say now to anyone from the corporation listening you didn't realize that you were shooing away people with a platform unbelievable microphones and that you have just publicly humiliatingly been withdrawn from consideration for the hot dog hullabaloo. You could have had this crown, like this little trophy now on your mantle of winning this prestigious new award

from our most beloved of all theme parks slash food, all food podcasts, any food podcast. We're obviously the most popular one. Yes, very much so. And you could have won this award from us. And yeah, maybe you were a little cranky when jason put you on blast a few years ago but this would have redeemed you and now look what you've done look what you've done no reason when you when these faces walk up you find a spot you tell some other people to scram yeah tell some people who don't yeah who don't even like imagine not having a podcast our photos point it said they're letting non-podcast havers eat up there any mall outside a theme park there should be three little pictures by the podium of our

three faces the opposite of banning people from the gates yeah exactly yes always them in always allow in because we weren't gonna we're not we don't brag we don't say look at our podcasts let me show you the the downloads we don't say stuff like that when we go around we're all but humble podcasters but that's just because we don't want to say we want you to be able to identify us so we have to pretend to be likable right pretend so anyone will listen. Exactly. But out in, oh, you should see. You should see how we have to be. Because if we

don't come in with an attitude, this is what happens. Exactly. And I'm looking out for them. I don't, I didn't want Ballast Point to suffer a humiliating blow in the hot dog hullabaloo, but they did it. They did it to themselves. They did it to themselves. And then to make it even worse

i said well maybe we should just drive to long beach which is where ballast point has another spot right we were thinking about and we were thinking you know what and we were like well we're trying to help ballast point out and we looked and we said okay well it's 30 minutes away it's not so bad it's inconvenient but so bad. And then we looked at the menu. There is not the word junkyard, and there is not the word dog. No junkyard dog on the Long Beach Ballast Point menu. We would have made a special trip off property

and still given it to the, if it merited it. If it merited it, we could have still won. And no, but they don't have that dog in Long Beach. They deny. They're like, you guys don't deserve cooked food, actual cooked food today. I even asked, do you do takeout? On its Google listing, it says, dine in, take out. What?

What? Lies. Lies about when they open. Lies about takeout. Lies about, we've always been an establishment. You know, that big beverage conglomerate who owns them now. Oh, yeah. They're the ones jacking that dollar.

Slipping a few years ago. I already slipped. Jason saw it. Jason felt the wind changing. You knew what would ultimately pay off here. What sort of thing doesn't happen at Golden Road. It's also owned by a massive beverage conglomerate. I haven't had any bad experiences.

Oh, well, well. Yeah. I think that's what I objected to in that argument. It's like, yeah, imagine being part of a conglomerate. Now let's continue our show where we talk about things put out by nothing but conglomerates every single week well that was the big lesson of the downtown dizzy ordeal is that all of these were owned by like a massive eyeglass conglomerate a flip-flop conglomerate like it was just so much more sinister than city walk it's all conglomerates yeah so many conglomerates all we can do is track their boring

names and try to enjoy their product but they wouldn't let us so you're out you lose zeros all around unbelievable and thus we we took it to a place that uh would never turn us away and that takes pride in hot dogs and that is award wieners um award wieners one of the pun-based hollywood locations that has remained they uh it's keeping that dca 1.0 spirit alive the full title they've got the subtitle of uh it's award wieners in a supporting role i might be missing part of that title i like that i think that is what it is there's a big statue there's kind of a fake oscar holding a hot dog i'll make sure i have the copy totally correct but um fun play were you were you guys previously familiar with a best wiener in a

award wieners best wiener in a supporting role that is the full title uh were you were you guys previously experienced with award winners? Sure, yeah. I've had award winners over the years. This, the menus changed a lot over the years. I think a little better right now. Okay. A little bit on an upswing.

This was unfortunately one of the Ls we took. Mike mobile ordered the dogs here real quick we got a mountain of blame being put on mike no no i should have intervened i should have been looking out um this location has something they call film strip fries which are kind of fluffy i don't know like a potato chip shaped french fry i don't know how to describe them they're good the film strip fries are good i recommend i am gonna oh yes i well i i think cuties were good for offsetting everything we're doing to ourselves so i have no regrets about the cuties i'm also the one time i went here before had those film strip fries did not like them at all you didn't we have different sides of the spectrum those were like chalky and hard and i i they were not a fan i think i got them like fresh out of the

fryer a few months ago and and they were or they've upped their game i had this i did the film strip fries years ago huh are they these yeah little curly guys little curly kind of like fair food don't like i've never had do not. You're going to have to break the tie at some point. Okay. You're going to have to get some film strip fries. Go down tonight. I'm a sucker if I see curly fries, crinkle cut fries, like something that's not just a straight fry.

I love curly, but these didn't do it. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. That's fair. Probably would have wrecked us, just like the junkyard dog. That's part of it. Probably would have thrown off the equilibrium.

Absolutely. us just like the junkyard dog probably would have thrown off the equilibrium absolutely uh i think i think we needed those this cuties just to the cuties like slowed us down presumably gave it if nothing else like the little like the the water inside them was probably good for us yeah that was nourishing um the first item that we had here the bacon street dog. That is an all beef hot dog dipped in a house made roasted red pepper ketchup topped with grilled onions, bell peppers and crispy bacon crumbles served on a toasted bun, potentially with a film strip fries, but not in our case. With a little cutie. What do we think of the bacon street dog? I liked it. Yeah, I liked it.

Kind of folded Texas toast, the toasted buns. The Texas toast was a surprise to me first time I went. Yeah, I'm not sure I feel about the Texas toast. I thought better. I thought it was more of a split top bun, like a lobster roll bun. But no, it was more like a folded piece of Texas toast, but not buttered. Not like buttered Texas toast. This is the problem. Because what's the point of having all this extra bread if it's not going to

be a big, sweet piece of Texas toast? Well, but it held together, I think, better than the stale buns everywhere else. Well, the stale buns, yes, are bad. But I'm just saying, if you're going to get a big piece of bread that you're getting more calories than a normal roll or a normal bun why would you not want it to be fun then what's the point of having more bread if it's not a different taste or more fun you know what i'm saying because if it's texas toast the fun of texas toast is that it's buttered yeah it's indulgent yeah exactly it's like almost a piece of french toast like what's the we may as well just have a regular, a smaller piece of toast.

If you want to do a different texture, that's fine. I got to say this, though. I'm not craving butter to be dripping off either. These were the heaviest dogs we had. I don't want a butter. I'm just saying there's no reason to have that much bread if it's not some fun element. You may as well have less bread

because it's not like it's adding some extra fun, crazy element to it. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. More bread doesn't help anything. Yeah. I don't know. I got to say I was a fan of this, though.

I agree. Yeah, and as opposed to those previous bacon bits, these bacon crumbles, I was scraping up. I was grabbing them off the plate, the ones that fell off. I thought the peppers were delicious. Now, here we get, get like this is stuff that's cutting through it's biting it's spice and it's it's texture yes that mac and cheese on top it's just there it's cream on bread on like uniform meat i need little i need like little bits that are fun to you know toss around in my mouth before they head down the hatch the pepper red pepper ketchup

the red pepper ketchup good i good the best condiments of the day the peppers all fresh are you like felt like much more fresh all that stuff felt much more fresh than anything in the special dog yeah i agree yeah i yeah you know what uh the fan that's kind of all i got to say about it i liked it um the other one from this location, the Uptown Chili Dog. An all-beef hot dog topped with homestyle chili, pepper jack cheese, and corn chips served on

toasted by a Texas toast. What do you think of Uptown Chili Dog? Well, a big thing of mine going in is that I usually avoid chili dogs at theme parks because they have made me sick multiple times now i think both of those signs were coming out of universal studios hollywood uh looking back maybe one hollywood one florida so that said i was a little hesitant about the

specter of any chili now i was looking forward to the chili one because I was feeding off. You were just so excited for Ballast Point. Of course, that defeated us. I was praising myself for this chili dog. Happy to see Fritos. I so rarely eat Fritos. Now, as we were eating it, I had something come over me. I said, I believe that this is hormel chili i i wrote down the quote it was because there was there was there were these pregnant pauses i am i am reasonably

certain this is hormel chili it just felt as i i said you know today's the star wars day as we're recording this i said i felt a presence i've not felt in a long time uh i am pretty sure in the way that like the the mac and cheese early the mac and cheese earlier i don't necessarily think was stouffer's but it was in the ballpark of stouffer's this i was like i think this was an industrial vat of whore milk like that's what i couldn't tell is if that's a good thing or a bad thing i don't it was unclear i think i want a little something if i'm cooking it at home fine uh but i think i just want a little something more this this tasted like someone wrote down the con the concept of a chili.

It was just kind of nothing. This one was kind of nothing. It didn't do it for me. I did not know that was pepper jack cheese until you read the description. Yeah, I felt the same way. I was surprised when I saw it. You want that to be,

the little spice that cuts through, did not. I didn't hate this. Yeah, I didn't hate it, but it doesn't all work together. I feel like temperatures were off. The chili should have been a little warmer. I mean, I know that's impossible, the way they do everything, but it just didn't gel in the way that that street dog did,

where all the flavors worked together to make one special taste. Nothing, by the way, nothing like an actual L.A. street dog. Well, you're a big street dog. I've never actually even got one but yeah i'll turn around after we leave a wrestling show or a concert and jason's right at the vendor getting one of those sizzling i'm sure they're good i'm not even putting i mean i have some i don't like this strip of mayo on it but if they have like a little uh green salsa or a little avocado or nacho cheese i'll take a little it's those grills that kind of

like you know summon the flavors of all the onions and peppers so like the hot dogs are imbued with like anything else that hit that grill in a good way yeah those are a post hollywood bowl show that's that's fantastic yeah it's like george carlin's character jersey girl says don't pour out the grease i need something i need to cook the pork roll in that. We all remember that scene. That's maybe the most New Jersey line ever written in a movie. There's a George Carlin quote for everything. It's a George Carlin quote, yeah.

And most of them are from Jersey Girl. I probably butchered it, but look it up, folks. I also would dock the chili dog points for being so late in the day. I think that's a tough one to do later could have been tough at ballast point uh to have kind of the heaviest the meatiest one um because this was where I started to feel it maybe I started going a little downhill I think around this point yeah I think I said I don't feel sick but I am very full I am full now uh the chili also like the quality yeah i don't know hormel

from anything else but even like i'm tasting this chili and i'm like the chili at wendy's is better than this yeah like that's bad like that's more specific or flavorful but you guys might be impacting i i wrote down a score and i've notched the score down you don't have to listen a little bit no i think i agree look we don't operate and we're not in separate soundproof booths here that's not the idea we're creating a discussion but math will determine it at the end of the day do you want to lock in scores yes i would like to lock it in award wieners got it please great at this point in the day we took a much needed hot dog break i had concerns about is the hot dog hullabaloo gonna prevent me

from going on guardians mission breakout which i am still a little edgy about and i feel like such a pro now i was fine even loaded up with many hot dogs and questionable chili uh right yeah Questionable chili. Right. Totally fine. Love the ride. We hung out at the Pim bar, and you had a glass of wine, Mike had a beer. I just was pounding glasses of water. And yeah, we did Guardians and Web Slingers. Said hi to a very nice listener. Thank you for saying hello. Yep. So we cleansed the palate before the walk to the...

Jason, as you pointed out, all these hot dogs are oddly central in the parks. Like, they're all clustered in the middle, except for this one all the way at the other end of California Adventure. Lonely Outpost. Mm-hmm. And we went to the Wharf first

before we went to the Lonely Outpost. We went to, like, the Wharf. You and I had the lonely outpost we went to like the wharf food court you and i had a beer had the blonde ale and that brought me back to life yeah that gave me a second wind having a drink that was on my side all day interesting salad an interesting looking salad that's yeah i don't know it was uh what was it even called? It was like a Chinese chicken salad that came with three slices of fresh sourdough. It's from the bread place. Yeah, it was from the bread place. It was fine.

There was some cucumbers. I just needed something that was green that wasn't. Yeah, I maybe should have, though that salad did not look good to me. I just came home and approximated in a side bowl as much as I could do. I know a side at home, but just like cereal, almonds, banana, blueberries. That's a lot of sugar, though, still. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. That might have been why you were feeling it in the morning, too.

I think the cereal bowl did it. Well, there's a lot of sugar in the fruit. I'm just saying if you had like alcohol. In the banana and the blueberries you think the but even after a day of drinking and hot dogs this is this is what i face on this show i'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world i'm just saying that that's it's a little sugary and it's all at the end of the day and it's all at the end of the day yeah it's possible but it there's a lot of very plain cereal though sure okay because sometimes even granola

you have to remember I'm me and not you well I wouldn't make an acai bowl with fruity pebbles although it sounds good now that I say it

I love there was some granola in Nature Valley granola bars just keeps making more and more products that are like trying to be dessert

and it's like no I want you to make like horse feet I want you to make a bar of just oats like I want you to make like horse feet i want you to make a bar of just oats like i i want you to make less sugar i know because i even i will go in somewhere and i want to get us a little like like vegetable juice and even like some of the companies that make like stuff that has more vegetables actually in it still they have to make it sugary

i finally did i say this already i finally found they have like an avocado juice at trader joe's which doesn't taste sugar i'm like finally there's a green drink that you can just grab off the shelf that doesn't still taste like it's trying to be some sweet juice i tried it after you told me about it and i think the taste is very good it is refreshing it's got the texture of drinking green goddess salad dressing it's thick oh it's thick yeah yeah yeah but that's good like that's don't don't let me off easy i don't i know i want it thin i want it very watery good i love it i want a cold press i love it that's very watery that's what i like i'm sorry uh so this final stop uh a newer one on the horizon angry dogs this is part of the pixar pier

expansion is one of the quick little stands it's very well themed you get a gray you get anger from inside out the lewis black character who is who is blowing up who is shooting fire out of the top of his head screaming great they just did a good job with that all those little booths i like oh yeah senior buzz and um all well done so um there's a regular dog here which they wait the name of it's kind of slightly less annoyed dog yes the angry dog and the slightly less annoyed yes i think that's right yeah but we did angry dog because that's the um you know the interesting one here and this just came plain now we're back into condiment territory but with a couple of new friends you got sriracha here since it is a spice

place and that's a good addition nice to see that they could probably use that at a bunch of uh these locations yeah so i liked that um but i'll throw it to you guys would you uh how'd you feel about the angry dog uh probably the best flavored dog yeah by far i think because of the spice closer to that hot like corn dog i like yeah um yeah finally something something that isn't boiled when when pixar beer first opened there was like a line of condiment dispensers like sriracha or buffalo you know spicy mustard regular right like where you that was part of the novelty i think again everything's kind of been standardized everything in packets now this is where relish exploded that'd be a nice more pumps less packets is what i think we should come out of this episode saying every day yeah for us to make our dog goo

yeah yeah just put that all in one sentence. And that's what we say now. It's a loaded sentence. So I did like that. I guess, you know, while I liked the taste, I am looking at that actual dog and like, what are these weird streaks of red? What am I eating? I mean, I had to just not think about that all day.

Probably just cayenne. Probably just cayenne probably just cayenne red pepper yeah the streaks are probably less alarming than whatever the meat is yeah i was looking and somebody i don't think there's any like official confirmation of what dogs but some i saw some message boards people saying like disney world news is like it's like 20 chicken 80 beef or like something that. I don't think any of these are like 100% beef, kosher. Yeah, no, not at all. Like really well-seasoned dogs. Yeah. Yeah.

But probably not pork, people think. Also, probably no pork, but like part chicken, part beef. So we pray that that's all it is. I think, was one of the kids labeled a turkey dog? There were, yes, there was a kid. We did not do it because it was kids. The dog was too tiny. Yeah.

We also didn't do a veggie at Award Wieners. Oh, right, right. But the listeners, I'd asked about that, and they were like, yeah, it's fine. You said it was fine. I said it was fine. Yeah, Jane had gotten it. I had a bite of it a few months ago,

and it was kind of fine. He does this thing. Oh, God, this drives me nuts as someone from Philadelphia, where it's like a Philly dog like green peppers and onions like you don't put green peppers on a cheese like it's like a cheat like vegan cheesesteak dog and it's like i don't the vegan part is fine i don't care about that but so many places like you see it it went some places like real cheesesteak sandwich green and red pepper it's like no stop it no that's not interesting okay yeah i don't think i knew that i don't think i knew those were out of

bounds i think like banana peppers or hoagie spread or like spicy pepper yes you made me so hungry with that list of ingredients of the stuff i actually want to eat because we've been we spent all day dealing with hot dogs yesterday talking about them today you're describing any other genre of food i i'm salivating he said hoagie spread and scott burst his mouth with saliva for hoagie spread like the easiest like if you go to jersey mike's they're pepper spread like pepper relish on like that kind of thing vinegar very a lot of absence of vinegar yesterday yeah no vinegar to cut the off like good on top of hot dogs to cut the fat to cut the grease none of these are like i well we'll find out at the end are we i'm curious if anybody's given out any nines or tens yes okay really all right all right but is that in your uh in your mind is that on the scale of

yeah that's or would you that's why i'm veering lower i left i left i left some room for portillos or other things i've had that are like top of the line in my mind okay okay yes some invisible rude they're not getting ranked but yeah and also room for improvement for disney you know yeah yeah i think so there's nothing i would give it a 10 i could see 10 on the scale of what we're doing yeah i think that's where i was that makes sense that's perfectly valid i mean it'll still come out for us it'll yeah still come out in the same order of victory yeah yeah yes joey angry dogs yeah i think it's like this this would be if i had a choice between maybe the the first diggity dog or the angry dog just

like as j maybe okay say i'm an angry dad and i've got a family and i'm mad and i need to eat something and i just like my my anger will not be quelled and then we turn the corner and we see anger from inside out and my young son says daddy look it's you and then i said i like first i'm mad because he's insulting me and calling me this character but then I go you know what it does look like me and I have a little bit of a chuckle and I say oh we can get a quick uh hot dog here I think I would want that one better than I would want diggity dog I think that would make me uh that would what about all my move the kid this is too this is too complex for the kid you think that the scenario is too complex no No, the dog. Oh, yeah. I think they got it.

Well, you got to just do the slightly less annoying. Yeah, they got the better one. Or some kid, my brother, very young age, was like very into spicy stuff, like jack it up. Well, this kid you described, though, is such a wiener, not in the hot dog way. Your initial description of that kid, that doesn't sound like a kid who likes spice. Oh, the kid throwing a tantrum. Yeah, yeah i that doesn't sound like a tantrum yeah

well dad was throwing a tantrum in my scenario oh there isn't the kid the kid was actually making roasting dad me this probably solves both because dad gets to have spicy dog there's a beer stand like steps away i think they had one beer they had one firestone walker beer just out of cans though yeah uh um but i guess all all that to say um if it was just between diggity dog or this this i think it's fun it's a fun little change up and you can you put as much sriracha or as little as you want you still get a little heat uh it's just yeah it's a little bit more of a fun thing and if it's a quick kind of snack uh meal i would i would go with this over regular i almost yeah i i would in general i would recommend it i think if you're yeah you know grabbing a quick

but if you're grazing as we were all day i think i know where i'm locking this in yeah um well have we and one more thing to cop to there are there were hot dogs available at Wetzel's Pretzels, but Wetzel's Pretzels was pulled from the competition due to past sins against Jason. I mean, you guys were welcome to do it. I was not. It kind of ruined, already ruined my being present and fully enjoying my iFly experience during the CityWalk saga,

and I was not reliving that. Now, did I... I forget what exactly i should go back and listen if i had like a single pretzel dog or like little mini dogs but i could be wrong and that's probably where maybe thinking back i did it wrong at city wall it's like sitting out those are just like a single pretzel dog had never done me dirty before. So maybe this was where I should have given my second chance, but I think we were all still in such a haze from being swerved by Ballast Point.

I also think, you know, this is the inaugural hullabaloo. So I think we were also trying to sort of feel out like what we were trying to strike a balance between what was doable, but also funny and pushing it a little bit. Maybe we didn't push it enough. Maybe hindsight we should have done those and now next time we do some sort of hullabaloo we will know how to push it a little bit more and we would we've got to be worse to ourselves we should be a little worse to ourselves a little worse yeah that's what i think

you know we'll make our month in advance park pass, and then we'll make our six-week out, Ballast Point reservation. It's like three guys can't run around eating hot dogs at several theme parks and hotels. It's like they were trying to cut back on the most annoying guests that were the least likely to spend actual money all the other times they went. I think, why would we not be welcome?

The people who went to, reserved a table at a sit-down restaurant and proceeded to all split a $12 hot dog. We did order drinks and tip and such. We did, yes. We weren't savages. I added an extra couple bucks. Okay, that's good. Well, I think we're at the point where maybe we step down for a second and we calculate and we reveal.

I don't exactly know where this is going to land, but I think it's time for the judges to tally the scores. And we find out the winner of the inaugural Hot Dog Hullabaloo. All right, I have opened the digital envelope and calculated the scores, done all the tallying. And I just want to say to all of the hot dogs, it's not about winning. It's about that you're all sort of mediocre. And probably Disney should have some better hot dogs but i do think i am sure that if we were to do if we had done the hot dog hullabaloo 25 years ago there would have been i bet a lot more competitors that were all essentially the same yeah yeah that's true

i'm sure there were so many more hot dogs at Disneyland. This is actually, it's gotten better. Yeah, I think so. And there were some things, yeah, there were some that I sort of wish I had had the entire thing. Not that badly. I am glad that we did the thirds. There were like two. I was like, oh, I could have eaten the whole thing. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah, yeah. But who will take the whole thing? Let's find out as I read the final scores. Diggity Dogs, the unadorned, fake Nathan's all beef. Mike, six. Jason, five. Scott, four.

Median score of five. Right in the middle, probably where it should be. The Electric Relish Dog from the refreshment stand mike 8.5 jason 9 scott 8 8.5 thus far wow the mac and cheese dog from the same establishment mike 7 kind of surprised by that i said i had but i said i've eaten it's kind of like that mac and cheese yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah on the opposite end of the spectrum jason two wow that mac and cheese just destroyed the bun like that it was just like a good pile it was the first what you i knew something was up because you said this would be the first that i do not finish you didn't even finish a third yeah uh and i gave it a 3.5 thus weighing it all down at

4.16 uh 6666 the decimals keep going craftsman hot dog of the day the gordita dog the month oh if it was of the day if they were a different hot dog you would give it a little more leeway yeah but there's also there's not 365 types of hot that said i'd like to see what they did for christmas what's a good christmas hot dog oh uh yeah i i would guess candy cane and candy cane instead of beef i was gonna say probably a interpretation of the gobbler a thanksgiving dinner kind of thing because i sure turkey dinner i feel like works for either thanksgiving or christmas it's like a hot dog shaped piece of a roast yeah meat roast oh no you get turkey dog uh cranberry mustard stuffing that sounds okay oh yeah well if that's what the craftsman's doing

in november i'll go check it out yeah um but for now what they are doing their cinco de mayo entry the gordita dog mike 5.5 jason 7.5 oh my god scott three wow i think i was low as anyone here i should have gone lower sorry um okay so uh now we move over to award wieners will any of them be award winners today let's find out the bacon street dog 7.5 from mike 7.5 from jason 7.6 wow for me wow great minds think alike but one decimal point off of the like thus landing at the confusing 7.53 i was a little i looking back i looked back on it fondly and that's why i had to give it that score because i was like you know what i did like it all the pieces were pretty good i think i was pretty worn out at that point in the day so i was trying not to let that influence my decision yeah yeah uh yeah you

gotta remove where you're at the the ballast point anger should not reflect on this location the uptown chili dog mike 6.5 jason 3 scott 5.5 thus landing at an even five there's only one more that has the chance to take it the remaining scores for the inside out inspired angry dog mike seven jason seven seven wow wow two of them we landed exactly this one even more exactly that puts it at seven, just above that at number two, the Bacon Street Dog at 7.53. And taking the full event, the winner of the Hot Dog Hullabaloo is the Refreshment Corners Electric Relish Dog at 8.5. A very strong 8.5. A strong 8.5. I really enjoyed it.

I was a little conflicted it being a limited time, probably seasonal dog. Who knows how long it'll stick around. I'd love to have another one, I'll be honest. I would gladly eat another one. I think they captured

lightning in a bottle here. Any corn dog at the Disneyland Resort probably still a better bet. I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think that's maybe where this goes.

By saying that corn dogs are not hot dogs i think it sets up some future event such as this um and i hope everyone enjoyed this uh the the you know the winner the electric relish dog the losers us for gathering around paper plates and tearing hot dogs in three but hopefully the audience felt like winners hearing about our exploits and now i pose it to the audience is there any other journey of this nature that you would like to would you like us to do any other completion of a genre of food at disneyland at anywhere else um send us on a mission it feels like corn dog is probably the next one and the if the corn the corn dog champion taking on the hot dog champion i'd be interested to see yeah i mean corn dog a lot simpler there's

only like three or four varietals um uh maybe more if you add in whatever weirdo downtown disney court is going but i think this was a much more pleasant journey overall than like the the gulf of like the the hamburger hullabaloo or like the pizza party like there's some the gulf between the pizza in the parks and the pizza at Via Napoli or the Black Tap Burgers compared to the park burgers were like a steakhouse kind of burger. Oh, but a steak's on. Send us to, would you like us all to have some nice steaks

and then we'll tell you how delicious they were? The steak showdown. We're walking around in rented tuxedos trying different steaks. I want to remind everyone, though, if we do do the corn dog thing, I have not had a corn dog since one made me throw up

when I was like five or six. Wow. I will be returning. I have not had a corn dog since because just it has the memory of it. Exposure therapy. Like the Maury episodes where he shows someone a tarantula I have not had a corn dog since because just it has the memory of it. But I'm willing. Exposure therapy. Like the Maury episodes where he shows someone a tarantula and they run around the audience.

If I could get a minotaur to feed me a corn dog, a lot of my problems would go away. Just lump all the fears together. That's right. I don't think that would freak you out more. No. Shout out, Michael. Michael. Michael. There's more fun ones, like Milkshake Madness.

There's not that many milkshake glasses. Oh, that's what you want. Oh, man, milkshake madness. Cake shake in the mix. Now you're begging to be sent on these. This is like, what about doing one of these once a month? Ice cream Iliad? Ice cream Iditarod?

What about once a month we do one of these? Oh, no. Just becoming our only fans like you know i'll do it i'll i'll i'll use this toy if you want me to just because i have to as the darkest thing i've ever heard no as often as comes up i've ever heard the only fans thing much more dignified than us slogging through theme park hamburgers. Much more respectable. I think we should just do, we will follow in his footsteps.

We should just get in the Mr. Moro lane and just review all this food. And just do a whole full YouTube channel. We just pivot to YouTube. Pivot to video. We're pivoting to video. Yeah. Yeah. It's coming.

Okay. Well, send us, hey, we'll, you know, whatever, whatever, what do you want us to do next? Leave a comment below. Yeah. Send us on our next mission. Do you want us to eat a lot of something? Let us know. My name's Mike.

Click here, here, here, or here. I'm pointing. You can't see it because this is audio. Click subscribe and ring the bell and light light the fuse i i like what about you i don't care what they tell you to ring the bell you know how did we end up there that now we i have so okay for me to watch more of your videos i've there are two steps that's not a problem of the youtuber this is a problem of youtube how did you possibly get it to that point that's notifications right is that what the bell it's like if you want an email i think that a video has been done i've read some stuff on like digital detox or like simplifying your like

smartphone experience the first step is always turn off all notifications except phone calls and text message like anything immediate and that is i think the only notifications i have on on my phone so the idea of youtube just telling me like hey there's a new video hey there's a new there's a new roller coaster video like i know youtube absolutely not as opposed to any time i've been hovering over mike's phone or used your phone to take a photo or whatever it is your notification intake is unreal yes you hold it if i'm looking at your phone for 10 seconds it is like ding ding toy theme park news testa just endless i don't know monday monday not texting me not to know i'm it's an alert that he posted something oh that's fair yeah yeah yeah uh a flight a flight booker thing that's still up there it is like i'm getting as much information

as like an air traffic controller is getting at all times and and that's very odd because you once showed me a productivity thing like reminder hack that you do where if you needed to remind yourself about something you would write it in a note screen grab the note make that your lock screen background oh i've only you know what i've actually mostly done that for is is um when i'm trying to watch wrestle kingdom which is in japan and it's aired at like 4 a.m and i want to remember not to check twitter right when i wake up in the morning okay see the spoilers but how do you see that background if you have so many notifications? Well, you know, if you put it on sleep, they won't show up in the morning when you click

onto your phone. Okay. All right. I see. I haven't actually done that trick in a while. All right. Right now, the screen is the dog's face, a blown up photo of Edwin's face. That's cute.

That sounds nice. That's the way to start the day. I mean, just because you're just because you're talking let's talk let's see what the notification yeah yeah what do you go yeah okay i have wario i do uh i have wario 64's tweets sent to my phone which are like video game deals and toy deals i have uh secret flying notifications which i haven't done that in a long time i mean we've flown but not like yeah when are you where are you going yeah i could you know what you're right i should turn that on there we go i'm making progress i have uber eats uh notifications i have uh i don't know

why i had downloaded it a while ago uh miss call nick mundy 34 minutes ago uh i have a wendy's biggie bag bonus fry deal. This is an hour ago. This was sent to me. You have to get alerted to these things? You've earned a free small fry with your next Wendy's Biggie Bag purchase. Get the offer in the app and even more fries. Burger King, may the fourth be with you for two hours ago. You may a $3 Whopper or Impossible Whopper be in your hands on the Stellar Whopper Wednesday.

Tap here to order. It's always Whopper Wednesday. That's a, you know, you don't need that notification. It's just what Star Wars mentioned. Two hours ago, Vegas slot game that Jason turned me on to a couple years ago that's telling me about collecting 1,500,000 chips.

It's winning Wednesday. We have a few, you'll get epic jackpots today. It's Whopper Wednesday. It's winning Wednesday. It's Monday Wednesday. Taco Bell. I have some Zillow notifications for houses i can't afford uh that's just cruel that's just cruel oh uh walmart are you what is this all are you proud

as you list these uh neutral i think uh and even five yeah i think mike jason and i are ranking our level of alarm is at 10.100 yeah uh walmart for some reason i had a classic rafael in my cart and it wants me to finish the purchase but little does it know i already purchased it months ago uh so i am proud because this these notifications have gotten me plenty they've they've uh they're worth it is what i'm saying because you get notified for all sorts of interesting deals and things. Yeah. You know what?

I can't be too hard on you because sometimes you forward me those deals. You text me those deals. I forward him deals all the time. I have benefited. That's what we say about the checking. That's right. Mike driving himself slowly insane into full body deterioration sometimes is to our benefit. You would think I would be more of like kind of a

manic character with all that coming in like, oh, like this guy, you know, like a cartoon. No, you just internalize it. You just internalize it like a geyser. Geyser mountain. Yeah. It all

manifests itself in your inability to hug Minnie. That's right. Well, I think I'm just operating on a level of absorbing the energy around me. You think you've reached enlightenment. Exactly. You've reached enlightenment. I've gotten so many notifications. That's how you're so calm all the time.

I'm connected to so many people via tweets and app notifications. You realize we're all one consciousness. I'm vibrating at a different frequency than everyone else. I can see the world sort of on a fourth plane. Like Neo at the end of the first Matrix. I wasn't going to say it, but yes, you're right. It is a lot like Neo. I sort of am plugged in to the Matrix.

And the rest of us are just in Zion in the muddy parties. I already have the... We can only see our little bubble. We can only see our little bubble. We're attached to the greater consciousness. Occasionally, we just jack into Twitter just so we can't attach to the greater consciousness occasionally we just jack into twitter just so we could just get riled up at whatever lunatics going off okay all right i'm getting out yeah elon musk's neural link i already have it man i'm already i'm already

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talking 100 okay uh jimmy i have been that long i stretched it a little jimmy i have been son jamie i have been has an app called network we've talked about it before on the show some of the letters are missing from the word network this is a kind of a home shopping for millennials uh people we know of like so so like there'll be little likes the videos and stuff that are hosting uh basically telling you you know you can buy some things what just dropped is there's a live broadcast now something called panera day of craveable drops meet a meta i don't actually know how to pronounce it a medicom toy is a type of or it's a toy company and they do these things called bear bricks which are like almost like uh vinylmations but they're like a big bear sometimes

they're smaller bears sometimes whatever and then they paint like characters on them they're just like vinylmations basically but they're very popular i have no bear bricks i do not own bear bricks but this just let me know that I can purchase Bear Bricks like this Bear Brick 100%. There's Pinocchio, basically. There's a Pinocchio Bear Brick here for $100 that I can purchase and I can go through and see. Wait, what does that have to do with Panera?

I don't know, but the two hosts are standing in front of a display and it's just frozen now. They're standing in front of a display that's a giant sandwich. And in the front of the thing, it says Panera. I don't have a lot of answers for you. This, again, just popped up while you were doing those after show plugs. So I am just, this is what is happening. This is what has just come in here now.

There's a Simpsons Cyclops Bear Brick. I don't know if that's just from, oh, Treehouse of's uh when there was a i forget which one that is yeah but you can buy that for 120 i can buy one of these guys for you if you want jason and i both turned and did jim halpert takes to each other before you got to the word bear brick yeah you mentioned like three startup names panera bear brick here here's. Here's the main screen that says Panera Day of Craveable Drops. Oh, man. They got these. What's the drop?

So that's when they're dropping Bearbrick. So dropping the Bearbrick sale. Not food. Food is not. They aren't selling egg drops. They got these nasty looking chicken sandwiches. Now, Panera, get in touch. I'll fix your restaurant.

Oh, do you know about free sips? You've already, yeah, you told me about free sips. That ice coffee always tastes terrible. You can get an iced tea for free. You're excitedly pointing at Jason about sips you already told him about that don't taste good to him. I have no palate. But there's many different drinks. Until July 4th, you can get a free drink of any kind at any Panera once a day until July

4th for free. I will drink any unsweetened iced tea. There you go. I would give that a shot. Yeah, I guess I would too. All right. Sign up. Free sips.

You'd never know if it weren't for me. We just did. We did live. Thanks to my friend Luke, actually, who told me that. We just did live Jim Halpert GIFs, and Mike, you are just a full-time michael scott it's happening jim you were that yeah about everything you just listed oh my god it's happening yeah that's true this is i mean we've all we're all there's just our brains are mostly nitrates at this point nitrates and sodium so we're all like losing it a little let me ask you this question, Jason. Did you get that Dunkin' on

free coffee Wednesdays? Yeah, it's free coffee Wednesday. Wow. Of course. And he knew about that before me. I did not turn him on to free coffee Wednesday, but I'm just letting everyone know, go in the app, free coffee Wednesday at Dunkin' Donuts. That might only be in this area.

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