Podcast: The Ride - Impressions de France with Matt Warburton

Episode Date: February 12, 2021

Matt Warburton (The Simpsons Ride, Community) joins us to discuss this opening day Epcot attraction. And tells us all about helping write The Simpsons Ride. DCA 1.0.2, more of our discussion about early California Adventure, up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever! Dog! Among gentle spirits of the air, our podcast awakens at the early dawn. It may include censored sunbathers, talking body parts, and Simpsons trivia as breathtaking as the French Alps. Matt Warburton joins us to talk Epcot's film Impressions de France, not to mention his work on The Simpsons Ride. This is Podcast Les Attractions. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, a podcast about theme parks that might get a little dry, so if you're bored, just do a Beauty and the Beast sing-along instead. I'm Scott Gairdner, joined by Jason Sheridan. Hi!

Hey, bonjour, mon ami! Sheridan. Hi. Hi. Bonjour. Mon ami. I'm very excited for an episode subtitled Jason Mispronounces Any Number of French Names, Landmarks, Cities. Yeah. Yeah. We're pretty screwed. It's going to be a lot of Versace and such. Yeah. Yeah.

Mike Carlson, how do you think you'll fare? Well, look, I did two years of high school French, and I was addressed as Bernard in that class. So I do think maybe this will all come back to me. Have I studied up on it? No. Have I relearned anything? No. But I'm hoping that I'll remember things.

Like, I'll remember how to say, let's say, Keller A. Teal. That's what time it is. It's asking what time is it. Excuse me. That just came back to me now. We're going to have revelations like that as we go on. I'm excited to see what's still in

my brain. This is maybe your only chance to show it. This is the only application you you found, seemingly, for two years of High School French is this very episode, so don't blow it. I will try not to. And I guess we'll learn about the French skills of our guest, who mainly, it seems like, is a pretty huge theme park fan, a pretty big Epcot head, so we're excited to talk to him. He's a comedy writer who has worked on The Simpsons and The Mindy Project. It's Matt Warburton. Hello. Hello. Bonjour, madame de monsieur.

I don't speak any French either. I feel bad. Not one of four of us speaks a word of French. I have learned every French word I know is from either the people introducing the movie we're about to talk about or things mentioned in the 18 minute france documentary at epcot itself so yeah it's gonna be a tough road for the audience here i yeah people are coming people are coming to it hoping for like kind of a duolingo experience where they can pick some stuff up i don't know it's not coming from... Yeah. I wonder how helpful those apps are.

This movie reminded me, like, oh, yeah, I've always wanted to see Paris and the French countryside. I've always wanted to go to this. And looking up some French language stuff, I was like, oh, I would need to do some prep before I do this.

But I had like six or seven years between middle school, high school, and college of Spanish. And there was so much emphasis on finishing workbooks and worksheets and textbook chapters that I really did not do a very good job at learning how to speak it. So are you calling into question the American education system, basically? Yeah, I'm going out on a real limb here and calling out the American education system. I see. Well, I agree with you. I mean, I think actually now that I think about it, I did take some junior high French,

and it's just, it's like not practical. There's like a must be a better way. I don't know if it's total immersion. I assume that's the best way for most people to learn a language. But yeah, it's not, it's not like I came out, you would think after a year of study or nine months of study that I would have some good grasp on it. And I do not. And it was also a time when my brain was actually absorbing things.

So you would think, you would think that would be good. Before that stops. yes, into adulthood. It's done. I remember the names of the Ninja Turtles friends, and I remember the pavilions at Epcot, and that's about it. I was absorbing, lay, kids in the hall reruns, and that's what ate up most of my brain power. Sure.

All right. So it's an Epcot centric worldview here evidently and mad from us uh exchanging uh dms a little bit yeah it seems like you're a pretty big epcot per like that that's the focus of your your theme parkdom possibly yeah i mean i've always i've been going to disney world and epcot since i was a little kid probably first time i'm like a little older than you guys probably like 84 85 so you know i've been on horizons i was on original world of motion and you know like vintage epcot is definitely my way into loving theme park stuff it's definitely carried over uh you know and also what i will say is that a great thing a thing that's interesting about world showcase and uh the french pavilion in particular in the movie that we're talking about

is like i've i'm also happy to be really interested in like world's fairs and i don't know if you guys know this but like you know epcot was designed to be permanent world's fair done all this disney company and imagineering had done all this work working on the 64 World's Fair and things like that. I didn't realize this when I first started going to Epcot, but I was like, when I found out that like, oh, there are these things called World's Fairs that are like Epcot. I, as a kid was like, oh, this is great. And so as an adult, I started, I've been to four of the actual World's Fairs, which they still have. Nobody in America knows about them or goes to them, they still every couple years they have one and so like i can i am proof positive that like you that they are really very much like going to epcot and epcot's better but they're still around

and i will say that like the experience of the movie the impressions of france the movie we're talking about is like the most accurate sort of thing of what a real world's fair is actually like so the audience is getting a pretty good example of that like the kind of thing they show like there are films like this you know sort of like an imax type of movie that's basically like a trying to get you to go there as a tourist and sell you an idea of of the country of going to the place but i mean like don't Honestly, like, don't throw money. Like, I've been to, like, the North Korea pavilion at the Chinese World's Fair in 2010.

Like, yeah, you know, you'd be surprised how they can, like, gussy up a pretty awful country to make it look nice. One of these pavilions. Wow, that's insane. I, yeah, like, I guess I always i i my interest in world's fairs has sort of stemmed from like that there were other 80s ones with sort of the blocky retro future uh vibe of epcot uh like expo 86 i think was in wait now i'm mixing it up is that montreal

maybe uh um but or there's a knoxville one but like what is a what's the feel of a current of like a post 2000 world's fair yeah the ones i've been to but i would say the most like sort of they tend to be like futuristic but in a kind of like shopping mall kind of way i mean they're not there aren't a lot of rides which is one thing i was disappointed to learn they're often like one or something but they're you know they're not like imagineering quality they're sort of like cardboard cutouts and stuff or like a little roller coaster or something like that but um yeah i would say like uh or sort of angeleno's an audience they kind of have the vibe of the new century city mall kind of but on a much much much larger scale

like to the point where the last one that i went to is 2015 which was in milan it actually had an italy in it and so when the italy came to our mall here in la it was it really transported me to the 2015 milan world fair like not italy proper but the version of italy and yeah the very equality i will say the one in the one in shanghai in 2010 was one of the coolest things it was unreal that just the physical fair itself so like it was like a imagine epcot that was the size of monaco i think it was so big j Jesus. Wow. Mind-blowing. But they throw these things up, and one of the cool things about World Fairs, they throw it up, and then they tear it all down a year later, and it's

gone. And it's a cool thing about Epcot is that it doesn't go away. So it's like, you can see it, and you can get attached to it, and, you know, obsess over it. Are World Fairs on, do you know, on like an Olympic schedule? Like, do you know, are the next few planned out basically?

Yeah. So they do a big one every five years. So on the, like the fives and the tens. So they were supposed to be one. The last big one was in Milan. Like I was saying, the next one, which got bumped because of COVID is Dubai. Whoa, man. Those guys guys are gonna know how to do it right really i i understand that they built an airport just to get in and out of it

it's how crazy oh my god maybe they rescheduled it for this winter we'll see yeah something for we've all been upset about tokyo olympics getting canceled and like the level of tech and theming that's going to be but now maybe suddenly i'm more disappointed by dubai a dubai world's fair not happening the i don't think you were not on the simpsons when there was the big run about the knoxville world's fair right that was that was uh that was before i was there yeah i did i did work on the Epcot episode. That was like 13 or 14, right? When I first started being there. Gotcha. Which was fun because I got, you know, I was like still too early there to really have

a huge role in that. But it was a subject I knew a lot about. The issue being that Al Jean, the showrunner of The Simpsons, great guy, gave me my job. Fantastic person, great writer. Has a, does not like Epcot he he loves disney stuff he loves disneyland he just really has it in for epcot and so it was really tough to do that episode because he just wanted to seem like really lame i guess that's more fun and i guess it's a comedy show so it's like it wouldn't be that funny if i was if the jokes were like isn't this place great but yeah it was it was a circle I think the designers did a good job

there's like a there's like horizons in the background some shots and stuff but oh right yeah and the the future sphere uh uh does feel very like you're waiting for the space ship the airplanes are like whipping people like dream flight sort of yeah sure when you were in that room was it just a situation where you're like sitting on your hands when it would be like a joke would come up about epcot where you're like it's not that's actually not accurate um absolutely and look i mean i love epcot i'm not going to get fired over sure i don't you shouldn't have. Epcot's not worth it. Which I know that, by the way, I just said something that will anger a lot of our audience.

You've never been in this position to potentially lose a job by saying that Epcot's okay and not bad. It's worth it to go to. It's not worth losing a good job for is what I'm saying. I also liked the accuracy of that Epcot is the venue for a Teacher of the Year awards. That feels like the most like there is a like Eisner era. There was some

American Teacher Awards thing that was broadcast on the Disney Channel. They do a lot of like, you know, they would host big conventions and stuff like that there. So it kind of yeah, i forget what the other crazy thing was it was i think little richard was the was the guest in that episode and uh you know rest in peace he did a great job one thing i remember really clearly though was

that you know in a script this is a hollywood talk audience members scripts the way the peak behind the curtain at the biz there's there's often you know what's called a reader or an internal on a line of dialogue in a script right it says like you know yelling get out of here or whatever you know it's like a little parent the two parentheses with like how to read the line in it called a parenthetical or a reader in hollywood terms okay so there was a line for little richard who's a singer he's not a professional actor that it his line was is this true edna referring to mrs krabappel edna krabappel and the reader was furious so that he would know how to read it

and i think we did 100 takes of this guy every single time it was, Furious, is this true Edna? I know it says Furious just anything in the parentheses got it, no problem Furious, is this true Edna? one of my happy memories that's exactly what I want out of him

I love hearing that about the france pavilion at outcome did it have to be cut up at all to make the timing right or did he get it eventually we got it clean okay maybe a line going to the and he's done he's done i'm curious if if any of our listeners worked on his many guest appearances on shows like full house and like he'd done a lot of things you know if there was a similar situation longer sadly we can't ask the man himself anymore but right yeah yeah when he passed away i was obvious like how you what you were supposed to reflect on are his contributions to music but i

went to the many many 90s cameos of little richard yeah there's a good uh mother goose rock and rhyme he's old king cole some very bizarre line readings in that i'm very fond of um uh i gotta rewatch the simpsons one um and speaking of the simpsons before we started you reminded us the fact that you were part of the simpsons ride you were one of the main folks putting the ride together that's amazing yes but it definitely like the thing i've worked on that i'm proud of probably it was it was or at least the most fun for sure because you know as i said coming as a person who's been obsessed with this stuff since i was a little kid to actually get to work on right and actually that we actually when universal came to us because the simpsons always

has this kind of like special level of control whenever it does something just because it's like sort of a comedy institution and the way the deals always work. So when The Simpsons does a video game, they can really dictate how the video game turns out. And I had come from that team. We had just done a couple of the 2000s era video games like hit and run and some of those things and i i think i ran on a message board back in the day that they were going to turn the back to the future right into a simpsons thing they were going to redo it and i hunted down the executive i remember literally chasing her car down and being like hey i heard there's going to ride i have to work on it have to let me do this i remember stupidly at the time saying i will do it for free please let me do this um luckily she was like we will pay you a tiny amount of money

i was like great but so yeah so like i i happen to be the person who is most into this sort of stuff on the staff at that time of the simpsons so they kind of just let me you know be in charge of the project for much of its run uh we had a great team we had matt selman and danny chan and a bunch of other writers but uh it was it was literally like a make-a-wish foundation treat for myself like i you know i got to really figure out like what we wanted the ride to be and go through the whole process and it was great it took like a year it was kind of during the writer's strike so like we all had a ton of extra time to really make it great and you know we would do these things where you know we would write the script and i worked really closely with this guy colin heck who's our assistant director the simpsons

animator and we would work on the script we had a little trailer on the fox lot to do it and then at night they would work on a rough pencil animatic of the of the animation for the ride and we would ride it on the screen at universal that night we'd drive over and they would just project it and we'd be in the delorians because the the cars were still back to the future the ride had been open all day as a back to future ride but like we test out like the moves and stuff wow i mean imagine i mean like heaven yeah i got we're all suppressing like we don't just want to shout uh we want noises of joy i i remember i've never gotten over it how insanely fun that was um god wow wow wow yeah so it was it was like unbelievable experience so bad i mean as a person like we'll probably talk about this like

i feel like the france movie which is one of my favorite things at epcot is always in danger of being replaced it's always like it's got it's got this this uh beauty beast thing nipping at its heels if that's popular who knows what's gonna, it's got this, this, uh, beauty beast thing nipping at its heels. If that's popular, who knows what's going to happen. Right. So many great things that I've caught have like, you know, changed over the years. Sure. Sure. Yes.

And you know, I, I felt like I wasn't going to say no to the Simpsons thing, but I definitely felt bad because a lot of people loved the back to the future ride and were like annoyed that this beloved thing, which, thing, which I thought was good. It wasn't my favorite or anything. I've been on the other side of this. I get it. If someone offers you, you're going to do it.

Yeah, absolutely. With this, though, I feel like... Was there a pressure where you were like, if people don't like this, I'm going to have the weight of theme park fan guilt. Because I think the consensus I hear is some people like Simpsons. We all like that Simpsons a lot.

Yeah. It's really cool. And it is a worthy successor. I will say that there were a lot of, I think it turned out great. It was very much like what we wanted. It was like, got to be like about theme park stuff, which I was really happy that they let us do. You know,

there's not, it's hard to write it now. Cause like there's a million things I wish we could still change. Cause like you're, you're, you're, you're used to the animation process where you have forever the dialogue and stuff.

And you know, it was also weird. It's a a weird it was a weird group of people it was like people from universal who were amazing there was fox people there was the simpsons writers and like it was there were a lot of compromises made throughout each line of dialogue and just making everything it was also an interesting challenge there aren't a lot of rides that are like actually like not just a theme park movie but like a thing you know a physical attraction where you're moving that has to like get you to pay attention to a joke being said at you right right you're like you

know being thrown around and moving and you know doing simulated like 360s and stuff it's hard to process like a joke yeah long line of dialogue so we had to make things like really simple and sometimes we do it and it wouldn't make sense and we'd have to make it simpler but and also there were there we actually had tested out there's a there's a thing at the end where barney the simpsons character barney burps and we had actually tested out spraying a bad smell at you oh and this is right at the end of the ride after like you've been jostled around and we were like everyone's gonna throw up so the burp is still there and i think the ride physically has the ability to throw a bad smell at you but it doesn't it was built to have a burp and then that was uh

yeah there is one smell it's a baby powder smell oh yes yeah maggie's mouth right yes and that's a nice smell so it's like nobody likes that and maggie spits you out and then there's a part where barney is like front and center and he burps at you right too much they would eat the cleaning budget on that thing would have been discussed. Also, those are tiered ride vehicles. You would have had a surprise from upstairs. Oh, yes. Yeah, it would have dripped down a couple levels. You'll be happy to hear

that the smell in Maggie's mouth made it to our very prestigious Fake Smell Final Four competition. It didn't win. It didn't go all the way, but it was in one of the 16 competitors. So you guys should go back and listen to this what one uh um or the et forest smell the et forest okay yes yeah the smell and the line for the et ride um i think what did the did did maggie and it was in a chaos category with rome from Spaceship Earth actually. This is a nightmare category

for you. It's your work versus something I'm not big on. I've still gone with my heart on that one. That's burning Rome anytime. Yeah, yeah. I think I voted for Maggie, didn't I? I can't remember. Well, yeah, we'll have to go check. It's such a specific... I don't know. It's so unique, the Maggie,

the talcum powder, or whatever it's called. Baby powder powder excuse me the inside of a baby's mouth smells like so right I was gonna say to give you credit as a fan when we asked like what would you want to talk about you led with all Epcot like you did not

you did not like give another option yeah we haven't we've mostly been talking about the Simpsons right but you did not lead with work you loved with pleasure and fun yeah i mean epcot's my favorite um and you know you guys i feel like you guys have been doing the lord's work lately been focusing on a lot of epcot stuff thank you thank you for noticing yes it's been nice it's made us feel better and uh yeah yeah it's and what i'll point out is you know pivoting to our subject here a little bit um a thing i love about the france movie is that i think i think it is the only day one

epcot attraction still open basically untouched in its original form probably i mean like little updates to American Adventure and stuff. American Adventure is close because you've got you know, who do they add lately? Bill Cosby, Jeffrey Epstein, whoever they've added. It is all bad. Yeah, it is that. Wheaties box, the end of that thing.

Whoever they add to the end of American Adventure is going to be some sort of sex criminal. It was like lance armstrong bill cosby it was unbelievable run of monster gilchrist tyson zuckerberg isn't a sex monster but he's a different monster like like you know grass tyson's kind of that came and went a little bit elon musk is on there's a lot of people who are like i don't know noted american elon musk oh yeah right not a good look i mean i don't know they should just stick with like kermit the frog at this point or

so you know it's safe yeah it's a curse really to end up in that montage yeah like when i you know as an adult when i go to epcot i do gravitate towards the things that are similar to they were before i try not to be you know a nostalgist completely but your spaceshipers um uh the land you know things that things were the rides are recognizable from where they were yeah for sure the france movie which i think i didn't really appreciate when i was a kid it's not like for kids yeah it's it's i would say like the pinnacle of let's call it fancy epcot for the consumer of epcot right right it it is the same because the china movie changed canada movies changed a bunch of times you know france holding the torch basically the same

yeah which is cool to like if if what you're after from Epcot is a trip to 1982, which certainly I am as much as possible, this one very much is. And yeah, just this literally is a 82 looking movie. Yeah, it's just got to be one of the only experiences on Touched 2, just in general, because everything, Main Street's different. Everything's like, even stuff that looks the same it is interesting that this isn't this didn't have like you would think in the 90s they would have had like richard karn host something and like do a bad french accent and have like a beret on or something i mean i guess they would probably go with a real french man they'd go with a real but then they they they temper it with rich Karn. Yeah. Yeah. A side of Richard Karn for the meal.

It has to have, this is what, almost 40 years now at this point, it had to have threaded a particular needle, right? It's like, it was just popular enough to stay, but not so popular that they fussed with it in some significant way. They never had, like you're saying martin short or like like they just kind of left it as it is and it's been you know so we'll see we'll see when that area gets a lot more attention that you got the ratatouille is going to be there around the corner it do you think the thing you know it's like baseball or something theme park business is

a heartbreaking thing you like it's gonna go away temporary you you have like it could be there for 40 years and it's gonna be gone i'm not hey i know the french movie's not gonna be there forever i can watch the like you know 4k youtube of it great not the same but it is nice that there's one thing that's kind of still in its authentic where you guys are talking about i listened to a little bit of the the living seas episode i see the restaurant the living the coral reef restaurant is also like pretty untouched from yes initial condition um a few places still like that but yeah i do i yeah for all this stuff it feels like enjoy anything but enjoy anything that doesn't feel like it's part of the synergy plan while you can and i didn't mean to rhyme i apologize but like that's it's like it feels like as if there's no like character if there's no something like it's got to be on the chopping block it's got to be in their head so like we could get rid of this

yeah and i have tried like the last two or three times i have gone down to disney world i have been like okay i'm gonna do impressions to france i know i did it a few times when i was younger i did not have a ton of like big memories of it as a kid which i'm gonna chalk up to that my family always started at future world and would go uh clockwise from like mexico on, and then would usually eat a large, debilitating meal at Alfredo's, and then would kind of blitz through the last bit of Epcot,

because we were all very tired from the large pasta meal. And then when I went back as an adult a few times, I would always try to do impressions to france at the end of the day and they were like oh the park is closing uh soon so we shut it down early it was not busy tonight and it's like okay all right the french and now it's only open at night i think i haven't been since they you know since they added the beauty of the beast thing but as i understand it it's Beauty and the Beast during the day

and then at like 4 o'clock or something. It's adult time. Yeah, that's weird. It's an adult film now. Something for the parents. Something for the parents. I feel like this is a Twitter conversation lately. I, growing up and as an adult,

have always been a counterclockwise visitor. World Showcase. Any particular logic there if you had to break down the plan? Yeah. What is the route then? Is there something you want to do later? Is there something you want to do? And is there a middle?

Is there like the food has to be at this one spot? You know, I think the heart of the food is, well, I think I'd like to hit, you got to time American Adventure because it's like only shows, you know, once an hour or something like that. So you got to kind of like keep your eye on the clock. I think like growing, I was a huge fan of the original canada movie kid i think my parents both liked it and so like we were drawn that way or we would do this doesn't this doesn't kind of fit neatly into what we're talking about but i would juke over

to mexico go on you know el rio de tamp or whatever, then we would go back around to France and Canada and then make our way around, hit Maelstrom, etc. Have you been catching the recent happenings at El Rio de Tiempo, the slow removal of the animatronics? This has been an ongoing drama. It was so delightful when they added them. They were pretty good animatronics. Yeah, been an ongoing drama. It was so delightful when they added them. They were pretty good animatronics. Yeah, very much so.

Yeah, now Donald died at some point, so he's just a potted he became just a potted plant. Am I getting that right? Did it have Donald's hat or something or was it just a plant? A cactus with a sombrero? With a sombrero.

And then it was just, I think, the plant. And then I think it was gone entirely. And then they removed it. And just this morning, it's flat. They replaced all the robots today or yesterday with just flats of all three characters. So all the robots are gone, even though the other two seemed like they were working fine. And now it's just three cardboard cutouts stationary. I'm assuming because

attendance is i believe uh down now that the holidays are over and that they are doing repair work or or something hopefully assuming that's not permanent because it it does look like suddenly there is like a bill you know a movie billboard or something in the middle of the ride maybe they maybe it is a classic epcot maybe they have like a phantom of the opera lives in the middle of the ride maybe they maybe it's a classic Epcot fan maybe they have like a Phantom of the Opera lives in the building and is like Mrs. El Rio you know Phantom the boat ride

Phantom of the El Rio that's trying to like bring it back and destroying the animatronics oh maybe so or like taking them for himself to build his own version or something that makes sense and then like is like try to try to get rid of the Judi Dench narration on spaceship earth to somebody who goes around haunting Epcot, trying to remove the newer stuff.

Yeah. Going back to, was it Walter Cronkite? And there's, there've been like four narrators over the years. Jeremy Irons in there. This one. Yeah.

Dark sinister. Yes. Yeah. Is there one, speaking of that, of things being taken out is is there a epcot removal that makes you the the most upset is there one that is the the most heartbreaking in the whole definitely horizons that was always my number one um yeah that one it also just felt like it just felt like so unnecessary you know you hear stories there's sinkholes and you talked about this in a previous episode but like yeah I mean I will say that like

I was never a huge journey into imagination guy but like you know that was such a downgrade it felt like for no reason yeah those would be the primary I do you guys talked about this a week or two ago but like I do miss the original

the ride part of uh living seas was great i don't know i'm sounding like a real like guy stay the same i get that but you know well you know with epcot though if for the most part you don't end up with like that you know like the frozen is one thing frozen is like let's put a new property in there that younger people want to see i get the business logic of that certainly whether or not you like the right the other ones are like what if we replace a ride with a worse ride that also is an ip and that is like sleepy and uh it has less stuff in it like the the the the painting in the church where they like make the make the make the Jesus' face terrible or something.

You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, right. They just took a beautiful picture, Renaissance painting, and just made it kind of like an emoji version or something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I would say the Frozen one is one where I do, you know, I was annoyed. Like, I always am when they change anything, but I had to be like yeah this this is good they did a good job with this features i think like a kid would like which is reasonable enough right you at least see yes a

child like someone would like this whereas journey and some of these other things i mean mission space i think people would like if it didn't hurt you. If it didn't almost, yeah, leave me with a feeling of like, my chest is about to cave in. Yes, my brain doesn't feel great. It was real. I walked around World Showcase in a daze after doing it for the first time.

It was crazy. If you turn your head to the side, forget it. You're out first. I don't think I did it i don't even think i did that and it wasn't it was awful uh the optics of removing horizons like as epcot was the the center of the millennium celebration festivities at epcot is still so wild to me i mean i know i talked about on the episode yeah it's really kicking the groin yeah just like oh the future's over forget about it yeah this is the end of the Yeah, it's really kicking the groin. Yeah, just like, oh, the future's over. Forget about it.

Yeah, this is the end of the future. And it's like, no, no, the end of the future comes in 2001. Don't worry about that. Optimism will go away. But we're getting an early start on it. We're almost there. Yeah. Well, OK, so impressions to friends.

I mean, let's say some basics about it, about this unchanged remnant of Epcot 82. So, yeah, for anyone listening who doesn't go see the movies very frequently, in World Showcase, with all the different country pavilions there are, there's films, I believe, in Canada and in China. And those are 360-degree films, which we've talked about so sparingly. I feel like the circle vision three,

but 360 rather, um, where, uh, there's screens all around you. I think nine screens and you stand with railings to watch the movies, which is a, that was always a roadblock for me.

And maybe my parents too, maybe just me as like a, um, uh, perpetually lazy kid with weak chicken legs. I just got so tired always and did not want to stand against those railings. So maybe I kind of did like Impressions to Friends for that reason. You could actually sit. This was not a movie that's all the way around you, but it is five screens. 200 degrees.

200 degrees, yeah yeah so a little more than half so you can look all the way to the side and and there is stuff and seemingly that was the intent that like there's maybe even the thought that this was going to be a 360 movie also but um i think to make it a more elegant stately affair where you could actually sit in a more traditional theater they they opted for the for the five screens 360 like i feel like in in prac like i in concept is better maybe than execution like it's cool that you could look forward and back but it's like kind of i don't know it's like kind of too much sometimes it feels like if you're supposed to be looking

right exactly everyone's always looking the same way and then you look behind you it feels like if you're supposed to be looking right exactly everyone's always looking the same way and then you look behind you it's like yeah it's the you know the scene away from me exactly it is yeah it's i mean yeah i would say that like you know there is a tradition of like in all the disney parks and other places there's the the movie attraction is always weird because you go to this place you're supposed to walk around and get in the thing where you just go in and watch a movie basically what's interesting to me about impressions to france once again the survivor the one that's been around the longest is it's not 3e it's not a 360 movie it's kind of just a movie it has lasted a long time which they don't often yeah sort of like like a cinerama movie when they bring back

cinerama movies at the cinerama dome here in la like yeah kind of technology which was the precursor to imax movies and stuff like that so it's it's like not just on a normal screen but it's a little less gimmicky than some other yeah and i think it's i mean it is interest it's beautiful you know vistas and countrysides and and castles and abbeys like it it is i think justified uh in why they did this though that begs the question like why didn't they just do uh cinarama i was well i would say the thing that it was an occurrence until now like really the most similar it's the opposite of a precursor thing after this that it reminds

me of is Soarin' Over California you know a screen it's scenes of a very specific place it's California not France and it's like just low concept it's like there's you know not a lot of narration it's just cool and pretty to look at I mean this is obviously like suggest

you're moving with and you're moving over hills you're moving in a lower smaller scale too on like a cart so like it's also kind of it's trying to do a little ride stuff as well it just didn't have a theater or a ride vehicle that reacted with it yet

this is around the country you know like it starts in the north and you go to the south and you go to Paris at the end it's kind of like you know you could if you think about it you can kind of try to find like a a little structure to it for the most part it's just like a nice

almost 20 minutes long yeah I was re-watching this the first thing i was like man this looks better than like everything i watch now this looks so good yeah what great quality this is like i was like i could watch this all day beautiful yeah it must have been so expensive to me yes they didn't have like every one of those flying shots had to be with a full, like, helicopter with, what is it, five cameras attached to the bottom of it?

I mean... Five cameras and then, like, whatever mechanism that you needed to sync it all up and keep it all on the same level. Like, technology had to be invented to be able to do this. Film cameras. Like, each one with, like, you know, its own film cartridge going that had to be invented to be able to do this. Each one with its own film cartridge going that had to be perfectly timed. Yeah, which aren't like shooting film

remains very difficult. I think it was very difficult at the time. I listened to a podcast interview with the director of this, Rick Harper, who explains how they didn't really have like a way to watch it like you couldn't like there was not a very good viewfinder to see what you were even getting while going to these like very hard to get through to get to settings and getting up on helicopters like that he used the phrase or did like a well we had the vibration detector like instead you

couldn't see if it was level or shaking or not you just had to see is the vibration detector like instead you couldn't see if it was level or shaking or not you just had to see is the vibration detector going off it's real like nasa kind of stuff that sounds fascinating like i have you know in anticipation of doing this today i watched it great it's a great youtube you know pretty high quality version of it and uh i noticed a couple things what one is that you can tell like they they shot a few of the scenes on the same day because they're the first thing you're on this kind of rocky coastline which according to wikipedia is normandy you know like northern france like on the the coast that you know about england and all that stuff and then you see that landscape and a couple other shots that aren't about that at all like so there's these like fishermen walking with like uh fishing crates and stuff and you can see that that the coast that we just saw at the very beginning of the movie this is like halfway through in the background and there's a

church on the top on top of this cliff and then i think a little bit after that there's this great shot of these this old couple walking along the rocky cliffs next to a church that's that church so line producer brain you're like oh like they they got a bunch of pieces of it that day while they had all their stuff there and then they kind of you know made it look like a bunch of different things sure sure that's interesting that would be interesting to see i and i assume uh there would be an appetite and i'm not being facetious there would be an appetite to see like shot list called days for shooting of impressions to france and we could get like two episodes out of it if we

could find this yeah the thing i would bid on and spend a lot of money yeah, no kidding. Crazy auction. I was just so delighted. Even the smaller scale stuff. When I realized what the flower cart, it was like, oh, they just put the cameras on the cart. This is delightful. This is so charming. Yeah, those little four grand flowers. It's pretty cute.

There is a nice slice of life feeling in this and i was thinking like i think it's i don't know how i think it's pretty popular like trends on youtube of just walking tours of cities so like i've been and i've been doing i've been watching like 20 minute videos of people walking through tokyo because we went there a couple years ago and we loved it but i was like well this is just these are just longer form versions of impressions de france it's just the same like it's the same but you're getting like snippets as opposed to like truly like 40 minutes kind of getting lost and like oh look at that's a street yeah and it's long enough and you're you're out all day in florida it's hot and you know you're in this little nice cool room for 20 minutes it's very like you know really

transports you yeah it is it's like v it's like a vr is precursor to vr in a way with the wraparound you know i was i was drawing a parallel to like um world's fair stuff like to me it really reminds me of like the great imax movies another thing that i love and imax movies were developed for the montreal expo of 67 and you know yeah it's like these movies that these days we watch you know they'll have like you know on pbs they'll show like flying over england or something like that but that style of movie was really designed to be to show off the technology so it was like designed to show off new cameras and the fact that you could attach a camera to the bottom of an airplane and you know it was it was designed to be experienced in a

special setting like a theme park or a fair yeah to go actually actually to go back to simpsons ride is that like like was that crazy for you to get to do like because that room is meant for yeah it's like pretty insane format that can only it's an omnimax screen is a curved imax screen in case people don't know so like it's why if you you know you know these days when they'll show like you know a normal movie like dark night or whatever in an imax theater they usually show it in a normal imax screen because it's flat whereas an omnniMAX screen is like the shape of a contact lens.

And so it kind of distorts a lot of the images, but gives you the feeling of being sucked into the picture. But that's the reason for example, the Simpsons rides couldn't be 3D, which is a question we get a lot. You can't do a 3D OmniMAX. Interesting.

Which is why Soarin' is also Soarin' Over California. Oh, right, right, right. Oh, yeah, yeah, because that's not 3D. It's not Emacs. Same format. Right, right. Is that also why it's the characters, it's all done in 3D as opposed to 2D, where I imagine doing the curvature

doesn't make any sense? I don't know how that, that's an interesting question. I don't remember why that that's an interesting question i don't remember why that decision was made i guess it was like if you blew up 2d animation that big it wouldn't look it wouldn't look immersive or something like that it would it would just it'd be a lot of like big blocks of like homer simpson's big yellow head oh sure so like sort of oddly simple image for like it needs dimension i guess it just inherently needs dimension like a 3d model needs like if it's if something's 3d it can't it'll look like flat or something this is an interesting

tidbit that they that the guys that were that knew knew what they were doing that helped us kind of come up with what happened in the ride is that in in one of those where you want to simulate motion it's always better to have something that you're flying behind. You're not just like kind of in a vacuum looking out at a nice piece of scenery, but if you're actually tracking something that's in front of you, it's like if you go in, it's why in like the Avatar, Flight of Passage, you're following another thing the whole time because it actually, your eye kind of like looks

at the thing ahead of you and it draws your attention to the middle of the screen it kind of gives you it helps sell the motion so when you're like doing a you don't want to just like an imax screen if you want it to feel like you're actually moving it helps to have like some kind of point some kind of moving thing in the middle of it and so we tried to do you know we had maggie dragging you around sideshow bob and like all these these different things but 360 where you like you flip all the way around while homers is in your like being dragged by a rope or something that's a really amazing part that was i believe the first time that had ever been done in one of those simulator rides it was one of the things they were like oh let's try to do a barrel roll oh wow a parody of like water world stunt show thing actually i thought it was pretty convincing

yeah yeah yeah yeah real quick while we're back were there any other bigger blue sky things you were like oh i wish we could have done this or like we had this on the drawing board and it didn't quite work uh This is long enough now. Hopefully none of this is stuff that would get me in trouble. But a big constraint we had was that we only had some of the cast initially. And so that was why we ended up coming around on a Sideshow Bob story because we didn't have like Harry Shearer who was going to, you know, who's most of the like the adversaries, like Mr. Burns,

which would like drive a theme parky type of story where you'd went like, you know, Mr. Burns is trying to kill you or whatever. We were kind of limited. Luckily we got Kelsey Grammer who's such a Bob wanted to do it. So that was sort of the thinking behind that, which I think was great.

I mean, he's a very kind of theme park energy and he's such a great voice actor. Yeah. Um, I, there, there's a very kind of theme park energy and he's such a great voice actor yeah um i there there's a short story by this uh writer named steven millhauser who's one of my favorite writers he wrote a short story called paradise park uh in i think the collection is called the knife thrower um that i was always in one of my favorite short stories and it's about like a guy who creates a theme park that's like so messed up that the it starts to be dangerous and starts

to kill people that would that was actually a thing that i brought and was like let's try to let's try to do this let's have sideshow bob messes with the theme park so that it's broken and you're going through these different things that are parodies of different things at disneyland and universal but it's all falling apart around you um that was the initial idea so like the fact that i mean really which was just a vehicle for me honestly to do to like create little parodies of like parodies and then there's this guy scott trowbridge disney imagine here he like he did uh galaxy's edge chargeer, he like, he did Galaxy's Edge, he was in charge of that program. He was the, he was our like,

head guy at Universal at the time. He took that idea and kind of like, helped us say, okay, here's what that could look like, there could be a thing that's kind of like,

part of the Caribbean and we could do a big fall and you know, he helped us like, beat it out into a reel. Oh, and like, what they can,

like here's the, like the, the gags, so here's the stuff we know we can pull off. Yeah, and it's like, things that we could sell with motion. So it's like, it like it's good like because you don't want it to be the same

thing time and again so like you should do a thing where you're going backwards and you should do a thing where it's like fall and a thing where we can spray water at you and stuff like that but then i think grading or somebody was like well hey you know people are going to want to go to springfield yeah that's yeah like getting getting to sort of fly through springfield like the opening credits oh yeah big thing for people so that ended up influencing us and became like the second half of the ride is like maggie drags you through town and you know i remember the first time going on it feel it like it certainly didn't occur to me oh i wish i was doing springfield stuff but when there's that

reveal and you sit suddenly feels like the opening sequence you are like oh right we can do this stuff and you start to wonder like oh will there be kind of a couch scene sort of thing and then yeah that was cool it was a really good idea it was a real like like hey do what people want thing like you know it's like a service moment of like oh like oh yeah have your fun with like parodies of like your own up your butt like favorite moments from theme park history but like they like to see the quickie mart yeah i'm glad i'm glad people people do want to see the things they like i was gonna be slow it was just a parody of each scene from world of motion like it was that's the version we didn't get to make but you know okay okay fine people flying through springfield okay fine it's funny that you bring up like the the the theme park trope of of like

uh-oh something has gone wrong because i feel like in in literature, I'm specifically thinking of George Saunders' stories about theme parks. The big one that I think of is literally called Civil War Land in Bad Decline. I always wonder, do you realize that the stories

are always about theme parks falling apart or something going wrong? Do you know this is a main plot point at a lot of theme park rides whether you're criticizing it intentionally or not we knew that or not yeah i mean i would say that like they actually adapted it into a great ride called uh grand fiesta tour in sad decline which you can experience right now they they have not won really cool then it is like low-key do that and not like announce it as like a big george saunders thing but that's pretty cool of them yes you know what i don't know that it would get them a macarthur genius grant like he received but

there's something there's like a post-modern turn that rides had in like the 90s like when people like people are sick of like these rides are cheesy like it's just like no one wants to just like ride through you know a bunch of little dolls singing at you or whatever it's like yes that's all anyone wants but these guys they got too clever and everything had to be like you think it's this but then it's this other thing

you know it's a twit it's like the ride breaks and I mean this is what I'm just describing what we did on this but like that was its own trend that burned out and what i like about things like you know at the end of that area you have something like soaring over california which is like there's no concept it's just like there's no there's no oh no the the glider is going to crash into yosemite or it's just it's just the thing it's just a fun experience it's like of a piece right not reminding you that this is like because i think that rides work better when they're not

big complicated stories like there's you can follow stuff but like no one's like oh man i wish or i don't think they are like i wish pirates of the caribbean was more like about tracking characters and stuff and when they do that it's like lame it's you know it's like a song like you know you don't want you ever listen to like a story song one of those like eight minute like johnny cash things like oh i hear once it's fine i know what happens the guy's like shoot the guy and gets hung or whatever it's just like the songs you listen to a million more vague they're just like a general to give you a feeling and i feel like that that is a that's another thing about impressions of france it's not a story it's just a feeling yeah i mean we we were talking we've talked about like especially pre-shows and like avatar on plight of passage is

awesome but the pre-show there's like three rooms and there's just so much explanation of what you're doing and why you're standing there and what they're scanning you for and what you're gonna versus like big thunder where it's like here we go we're riding a train and then it's all then once you get on the ride itself it's unbelievable you're gonna play a passage but there's no story at all you're just flying around it's great right you sort of didn't need to know any of that i'm not sure any of that i think it's like they just want to give you something to do because the line is long and so they have like they make you you know sit in three we did this there. There's two

full pre-shows on The Simpsons for the same reason. It's like they divide you into little groups so that you can go into a place and you don't have to sort that all out at the last. It's all like crowd management. I wish they would just put up a blank screen and you just look at your phone or something. Well, that's it.

You know, dinosaur. You got two movies about this and you're going you're going to look at dinosaurs yeah but the simpsons feels like i mean the simpsons has that uh the ride you guys have that narrative a little of like you know bob and everything but also it's just like the pre-show room is you get to see patty and selma in a booth goofing like everyone's goofing around versus you're getting information shouted at you that's important. Danny Chun, one time Simpsons writer at Office, a bunch of her stuff,

he was sort of in charge of that part of the writing. Yeah, it was fun to do that. It was like picking the characters. It did give us, I will say, the script for the whole ride ended up being about 35 pages long. Maybe the ride script, which is writing 35 pages long maybe the ride script and we just write the final draft like a normal script but the ride itself is maybe seven pages long but then you know there's like 20 there's two full long there's um there's more than a full simpsons

episode worth of writing and animation in the pre-show to that all right to that ride because the several rooms and all the characters. Yeah, but that one is also, it was like we were kind of stuck with the infrastructure back to the future, so it was like you couldn't just like change the structure of the rooms and stuff. You knew like, okay, we need something that's exactly

the same length as this thing, and then you have to go into this room. Oh yeah, did you have to watch like this doc and biff thing and go okay so it's got to be sort of equivalent to to this at least time and maybe feel like the timing was more important like because because whatever the timing of the ride was that's the key thing it was like four minutes yeah you have to each of the things before that has to be exactly that length so that everything can turn over at the same time I'm sure that like Flight of Passage

is the same way but like whatever the length of time it takes to get all the people in and like you know sit in the things and stick their head in the hole you've got to cover that the length of the ride has to be the exact length of the pre-show which is maybe why Avatar is so crazy

yeah hopefully they're hosing down length of the pre-show or whatever which is maybe why avatar is so crazy yeah it's a complicated plus hopefully they're they're hosing down those little glory holes you stick your head in or whatever oh yeah right now give them 10 seconds to do something people people are doing that right now like there's people on that right as we're all holed up in our places forever well and you'll be happy to know they've recently increased capacity. So, you know. How weird is it right now to go into one of those rooms

where they're scanning you for viruses or germs? You all have it. You all have it. Shake off. Move your body around a little bit. Yeah, move your body around. Some of you are asymptomatic. Now, we can't tell which of them.

Yeah, that's odd. That odd i'll say you can go do that right now right now but impressions to france you can spread out a little you know it's the theater the palais du cinema it's probably not full i'm a big remember movie theaters you go remember that yes yes kind of your audience doesn't remember that these people think pre- movie theaters you go remember that yes kind of for the audience doesn't remember that easy to think pre-covid you go to a movie theater and watch things uh impressions of france because it doesn't have a lot of dialogue is it has that phenomenon you get in movie theaters when you're there during the day and there's a lot of old people they want to talk through the line so i would say that like even in particular there's something about sitting down you're watching the nice scenery maybe there's an old lady that speaks

a few words of french she wants to use them she wants to impress the other old people that she's with in the movie it was one of the most talked through film experiences you can have to the point where i'm a big guy i'm a big drives my wife crazy i'll just get up i'll move like i'm not a shusher i just very showily get up walk down move a couple rows back maybe i'll make a big uh or whatever i do that yeah i know it's me i'll do it multiple times in the same in in the impressions of france theater it's nice as it's a big not usually that packed bad news for the movie probably going away someday but i will move around multiple times to get away from the lake oh that's paris that's yeah you know it's like everyone wants to show off that they went to paris one time or whatever

god bless i get it but it's yeah that kind of goes i mean really i think we've mostly talked about it on the haunted mansion episode people that want to talk that's a different thing talking along with it but i think in general all three of us are no talking don't talk please don't um and i think that's controversial and i remember was saying that i think some people were like but i like to talk i like to do it like three minutes i don't want i don't want to you know yuck anyone's yum here like yeah you want to talk great i'm just as long as this theater is big enough that i can move sure then go nuts yeah and i don't think people were talking about like oh i want to talk along to impressions de france i think that's probably

a smaller amount of people oh another thing i don't know that anybody's ever i was watching again to see maybe jumped out again. Has anybody ever noticed that I'm pretty sure that they had to paint out a lady's boobs in a scene. A scene where you're on a dock

going... It's on the French Riviera and there's a bunch of sunbathers. You can't really see it on the youtube but it always jumped out at me in the theater there's a woman in the kind of i would say like facing the screen upper left hand laid out on a thing wearing a blue bathing suit that is clearly painted in later like she was clearly just a woman top it's france right i mean that's part of the french experience topless lady young woman just a blue block like like like an old you know an old computer graphics thing where you just like draw a little outline of something and fill it in with a blue paint can to cover up

this nice young ladies hmm did wobble when it moves does Does it not follow exactly right? I tried to see it today on the 4K, whatever, YouTube video someone took. I know where it is, so I know where to look for it, but it won't jump out at you. If you see it in the theater, have a listener,

someone go rush to the theater. Be safe. The woman you will see is blue like a bright blue block where nudity was supposed to be wow I mean I'm glad they got was there that day the woman on the

beach listening let us know oh yeah we'll have her on if you're hearing this I'm glad they got that because topless sunbathing i feel like is a national pastime uh for france just like uh smoking cigarettes and having toured affairs uh and those they can't really put into this movie like there's a wedding in this movie i guess because there's a big uh abby in this movie ab, that's hard to access. In the back of my mind,

I think I used that wedding reception in the France movie as an image I wanted during my actual wedding. I remember asking for the lighting and I wanted the lighting to look exactly like that where it's outside, there's string lights over it,

everybody's having a nice time. Yeah, it's very cinema. Obviously, I'm a i'm a big fan of this thing i will say one thing i don't think i've ever i don't think this is like on the wikipedia page or anything for this simpsons episode i used i pulled a music cue from impressions to france and used it in a simpsons episode um it's it's in the episode uh a totally fun thing bart will never do again which is the episode where simpson's going to cruise and i'm sure what is let me see like the way you look at the song is called rondo by francois adrian waldia wald you i pray the most obscure song in impression i always liked that there's a scene

where they're going on a cruise and we had this really dramatic shot flying over cruise ship to show how cool it is and i was like oh this is like that scene where they're flying over the castle in impressions to france i was like i want that exact song and so this was great there's another like real like i can't believe this happening moment because the simpsons that time was scored by a live orchestra they had to actually find the music get the orchestra and it's a really hard song too so like it's like real a really like challenging piece of classical music and so they had to learn it and then later in the episode that cruise ship it goes bad uh like they're stuck on it for a long time and so they do another fly over it where it looks to compare it to earlier and the composer redid that song from the france

movie is like a janky like messed up version to show crappy instruments whoa check it out so that's amazing and also did you just manage to break a piece of trivia that is not archived by simpsons fans online so i don't i didn't think anybody that might be the only piece of info that people don't know like that did you get to go watch the orchestra do it i didn't see that one i had been there other times it was cool they would they would just like they didn't like do it right next to where we were writing. So I think at one time I went to go see it. Since then, they've stopped doing it because it was unbelievable.

The only shows ever that would do this were Lost and The Simpsons. It's just like you picture in a movie. There's a giant soundstage with the whole orchestra and everything. It was really cool. I guess over 30 years of The Simpsons, they've got enough music cues now that they don't need a bunch of new ones. That's fair are there any other little uh theme park tidbits you've snuck in in other places that people wouldn't know in that same app that was that was the last episode ever for the simpsons it was it was sort of my place to try to pack in all the things that i liked

i don't think it really worked i did try to put there's a thing where they're stuck this is once again they're stuck on a cruise ship for a long time. They think, they think the world has been destroyed by a viral outbreak. So very prescient, not so prescient that I thought a cruise ship would be the safest place to be. Oh yeah. Right. But in the episode, they, Lisa decides like, like medieval monks re like preserve culture for the posterity

now that the world is gone and so there is a part where you pan across a bunch of monks and i i showed them the monks in spaceship earth and i said i wanted to look like this i want one of the monks to be asleep on the book i want to look exactly like spaceship Earth and they were just like eh. I have time for all this. At a certain point I think they're right. At a certain point they were like hey man enough with this. Satisfying fetishes essentially. Yeah.

That is. They're an orchestra to play a song from Impressions de France. God. That's amazing. This is making me think about though there was this we're there's a certain time frame of sensance episode where there's some california adventure digs in there was that you no no that was okay he's like he he really i think it comes from a place of love like he had really in for any time like you know he was the back in the day there were a place of love. He had it really in for any time. He was, back in the day,

there were a lot of Euro Disney. Yes. Al really, I think he held the Eisner era to a very high standard and was disappointed when it fell short, I guess is the only way to put it. Because he loves

Disneyland, but just other lesser imitations of disney parks yeah is it up for wow interesting not wrong i know he's saying real quick i'll say i did search and see how many listeners we may have from france oh yes do that on our analytics and i believe this is i think just in the last month and this is like amount of listens i think we might have 43 listeners wow that's not bad yeah or maybe one of them is going to be a guy from this bit who's in the movie like the guy with the grapes on his head or like some somebody the topless woman on his head the groom so many yeah there's a lot of people a lot of possibilities so yeah

if you were in it and you're alive still tell us your story if you are a listener from France do you think the French Pavilion should be the one place in park in Walt Disney World where you could still smoke cigarettes like in the pastry shop in the movie theater

I mean I'm just saying like limited time magic maybe maybe, you know? Nude sunbathing. Like they have a more French experience when you're there. Sure. You do it in the courtyard. You drop the kids around the corner at Ratatouille.

I mean, I'm optimistic for Ratatouille because I think when they do insert character or when they do put more intellectual properties into the parts, I think usually when they start from scratch, it's more successful. It seems like they've done a good job at matching the architecture of the French pavilion. I'm just thrilled that

they left the movie in place. Yes. That's what I was worried about. They did. I looked it up on the app. Your current option to see the movie you have a small window from 6 30 to 7 45 uh so i guess that's what three showings four maybe if they squeeze because they have yeah this is it guys this is the last day like we need to get people in there to get some turnstile or something. This is not looking good.

But they just upconverted it to 4K. So, I mean, that's the nice thing about shooting on film. It's easier to upconvert. I see which way the wind is blowing here. I mean, maybe it's the kind of thing where they do a special, like the way they bring back the California movie in the theater where it's usually soaring around the world. It could be that kind of thing.

I always think that they have all these movies that they've banked over the years that they could bring back and people would like them. Maybe. Eh, maybe not. It's unclear as to what you do with them. There's Magic Journey. There's all these old weird... It would be nice.

In this spot, it seems easy enough yeah just like i mean in this spot i mean it seems easy enough to just put a different movie in so yeah it would be nice and different like a theater like this to show i mean not this france one but like in a place in the parks to be able to show old stuff once in a while i mean it's like they have retro nights at disneyland and um maybe easily pretty easily brought back captain eO back and you know they can yeah so they can convert you know the new French Mandalorian goes to France

short into this later at night for 30 minutes once in a while yeah because they should bring back like I don't know if the audience is familiar with this there's some really weird theme park movies they used to make like if you've ever watched Magic Journeys it is one of the weirdest and this was in a theme park it they used to make like if you've ever watched magic journeys it is one of the weirdest and this was in a theme park it is one of the weirdest like

fever green like acid trip bizarre spooky sort of things you can find it on youtube it was a 3d movie it was at imagination it was all over the place i remember as a kid being like even as a kid i was like i don't want to be an adult anymore. This is, what is this? There was a movie called Symbiosis that they showed that was in The Land. The Land, yeah. What was it? What happened in Symbiosis? It was the thing that preceded the Timon and Pumbaa movie.

Yeah. Yeah. Where the carpeted wall is. Anyway, it was a really scary movie about like pollution and, you know, the environment being destroyed. And so like, there's all these movies that,

you know, there's at least a couple of weirdos out there that would. Yeah. I need to see them grow them up in like the odyssey or something. I don't know. Yeah. Right. That's perfect.

That seems good if, unless they're going to demolish it, but yeah, if that would be a great spot for it. You got the journey theater also, which you, what if they just like said by day, like at 10 30 we're showing magic journeys at 12 we're showing symbiosis you just like shuffled all the if they're gonna bring back retro epcot just make that the retro epcot yeah i would be there in a heartbeat yeah yeah and they did it in california

adventure they stuck seasons of the vine into the Blue Sky Cellar for a little while. Yeah, absolutely. If I remember correctly, they had Seasons of the Vine featuring our friend Jeremy Irons. A dark look at a year in California winemaking. It was in the Body Wars building

during the Food and Wine Festival. They bring these things back sometimes. There's some venue repurposing. What were you saying, Mike? Oh, I was just saying, I just quickly googled also Magic Journeys and it is bringing back,

I do remember this, and it's like this evil, there's like an evil circus in it. It is so weird. Yeah. It may be the weirdest thing that's ever been an attraction at Disney Theme Park. You can watch the weirdest thing that's ever been an attraction at Disney theme park. You can watch the whole things on YouTube. It's disturbing.

Epcot is so, we've talked about this in our Epcot. It was so traumatizing for kids and it's so odd. And it's so, it's like they were trying to do so much different that they just got. Yeah. I think I was thinking about like, what, you know, why do I still, years later, still care about that? I was a kid in Ohio. You forget that Epcot is fancy. It's the fancy theme park for fancy boys and fancy girls.

I was a fancy little boy. I wanted to go. And you learn about France and you see all these different countries. And it really affected me. The's it's the the futuristic part definitely affected me my whole life you know i i still like i'm like my dream house is like the house in horizon like the the city apartment that the grandparents live in i'm like that's what i you know show real estate is what i want like it affects you when you're a kid and these things stick with you and like and i think that like the world showcase part of it it's like all these kids

all over the country you know making fun of like oh apco's so lame or whatever but like it i think a certain percentage of kids go there and it messes with their brain and they're like i want to go to all these countries i want i want this kind of fancy experience as an adult yeah i think you have to be like because i liked epcot a lot as a kid i like i probably was not that into world showcase i was probably like i needed some stimuli yeah same a movie yeah like a movie wasn't gonna of pleasantness is like oh okay yeah yeah but i can where's the robot where show me the robot um but it definitely it definitely feels like a a field trip some of it feels like a field trip and that's a good thing as you get older because you just want a nice pleasant experience and it is hey it is fun to learn

actually i like to learn here and there if i remember it that's a different story but it is i'm sure it's a specific type of kid that goes to epcot and all of them i've heard you you know having been to some of the countries that the epcot pavilions are based on that some of the experiences are very very similar to really being like if you go to a gift shop in the japan pavilion that is very much like being in actual japan like that it's like there's plenty of stores that have that feel like it is if you're just from a normal town in america it's it's a pretty good simulation of being in some of these places and at the very least like

it'll give you a little bug where you're like yeah okay i want to grow up and sure yeah i want to go to have you also then been annoyed by like there's like the the feeling of like well world showcase it's just plastic europe like why you know avoid the like go to the real thing why would you not and i feel like people know what world show yeah it's like watching a movie and be like that's a set that's not it's like that's what it is yeah i'm trying to like get you to not travel the world if anything they want you to travel the world after you don't think you're a caveman that thinks you've gone through a time portal to france like yeah it's just also like yeah go to europe that's a very theme park experience too the real one it's like you know

yeah it also discounts that like there's there's also like dumb stuff to do in europe and japan and stuff like it's as if it's all a cultural enriching experience. That's why I go to the places for the dumb stuff mixed with some enriching stuff. This is reminding me, oh, they talk about impressions to France. It's so ethereal.

It really does remind me a lot of early, in film school, they would show us not exactly Kundunun but like stuff like that where it's like this is a movie made of just visuals and and music visuals and audio and you can tell a story with visuals and audio and i'm now realizing like i was like okay yeah got it sounds good this feels very familiar to me and i'm wondering if that's because i watched all these epcot movies so many times as opposed to like some classmates who are like i can't wrap my

head around this like the history of travelogue movies i mean like you know there's all this there was a great one i saw recently that i i'm sure there's some sort of like connection to like some of the people who worked on one of the Epcot movies. It was the first IMAX movie, which was in the... If you look at pictures of the big Buckminster Fuller sphere at the Montreal Expo in 1967, it's still up. It's an IMAX theater. It was built for

that World's Fair. The first IMAX theater ever made, I think. And this movie, it's called North of Superior. It's just like a tour of canada like forests and stuff anyway you can they it's on youtube they posted like a toronto film festival did a retrospective of the director or something and it's all there it's it's it is so the dna of this sort of grand spectacle you know soaring music and flying around and that i think goes

probably goes back to like travelogue movies from the early days of movies when it was just like a way to get to see a place that you'd never been before one of the earliest uses of movies was to just you know show you stuff you couldn't see otherwise thank you yeah which you sort of take for granted with stuff like this with these early f-cup movies like how that yeah like travel wasn't as easy and technology wasn't as advanced and now that cameras can be very small and get to obscure places like to do the work and to take a 500 pound rig up into the sky or into a balloon or into the Eiffel Tower yeah there's an appeal to this I think that feels very National Geographic

that you know it's still cool to watch now but you have to think about how in 82 it was like really remarkable and truly taking people to places they maybe couldn't go well it does follow like the Disney nature or Disney's like travelogue I feel like Disney doesn't...

It's almost as an afterthought. They dump this archive stuff on Disney+. We're like, yeah, we have National Geographic too. We bought that. But it's like, well, that kind of was one of your core things for a long time. And I think that they won Oscars and stuff for those short movies. Oh yeah, the Earth Day the short ones and then the Earth Day

ones that they put out every year. But like back in the 50s and late 40s they innovated all this camera technology. I think Seal Island or some old Disney movie won an Oscar. There's a really messed up one. I think it's on Disney+. Someone posted. It's it's called perry it's a narrative live action about the life of a

squirrel in the forest it's pretty good but there's a thing that is one of the trippiest weirdest things where the squirrel has a dream and they actually shoot in live action the squirrel going through like a fantasy sequence of like crazy dream stuff but with a real squirrel um check it out it's great but it's like the ways that they combine like near they still found like weird disney-ish ways to zazz up like a documentary that's just like animals walking around this is by far the weirdest picture I think is the name of it

and it's on Disney Plus I think it's on Disney Plus I saw it in like Turner Classic one time when they used to do those like obscure Disney thing nights just sitting there with no indication that it's bizarre and has a squirrel yeah i mean you don't watch the whole thing you sit through a lot of just like a squirrel

eating a nut and all that stuff which yeah god bless that you think but there's a dream sequence about two-thirds of the way through huh it was like the wanda vision of its day with a trippy can i um can i point out something so though though we've we've been talking about how this thing is very like impressionistic and it's you know mainly um music and visuals um there is sparing narration let's not forget about that you do have the my france wakes up at the uh which which is a little card to decipher in the youtube clips some of the narration the accent's a little thick and you know the an iphone or a gopro is not the best way to cast sort of impossible by the time it's translated several mediums yeah um here's something that

i was wondering uh um me not being a terribly cultured person i was thinking like well is this whoever's narrating this is probably, like, one of the great French actors, right? And I'm a fool for not knowing who it is. And then I looked up the name Claude Gobet, and I'm like, well, of course, he's probably, I'm going to look at this IMDb, and there's going to be a hundred entries, and this is going to go and go and go, and how could I not know the great Gobet? It turns out that this is one of only two credits for this actor. And the other credit is a film from 1977. The film is called Chatterbox.

This is a film mainly starring Rip Taylor. And it is a movie Chatterbox refers to. There's a woman who, after an unsatisfying sexual encounter her vagina comes to life and uh reviews the performance of the man and you follow the uh you know the really the rise in fame of her vagina virginia the talking vagina wow i was not familiar with chatterbox before we saw that and we're like, we've got the guy. Disney. The only one, but we have all the great French actors lined up.

But only the guy who plays... That's France, baby. Only the guy who plays the Mater D with two lines in Chatterbox, the Talking Vagina movie. Rip Taylor had a conflict, so they could not get him i guess so i and it really is just like the woman comes in can i have a tail over too yes wait a minute are you the owner of virginia the talking vagina

it's truly that's all it is so claude gobert one of the stranger filmographies club very interesting and check out several Perry and Chatterbox which is on Amazon Prime

actually as is a lot of bizarre old junk so what a double feature oh yeah yeah yeah plan a little night for yourself was that the only time that talking vagina character appeared or did they spin the vagina off at all? Into other, into Virginia Vision or some such thing.

Yeah, Virginia Vision. It's a little bit of Magic Journey, the circus scene. Okay. It's a brief caveat with Magic Journey. I do want to mention some of the soundtrack stuff. And I... Okay, Matt, you mentioned the kind of obscure song in the soundtrack. There is a song that recurs in the soundtrack. And I looked up the name because I never knew the name of this song.

And it is called Aquarium from the suite The Carnival of Animals by, I'm going to try, Camille Saint-Saëns. And I just know it as the spooky wonder music. It doesn't play after the Amblin logo, but it plays after people's movies who have been called the next Spielberg. Every kid's movie of like yeah we use it all the time yeah it's a very common

you hear it all it's very spooky it's a great song yeah and it's great in this I mean but I just couldn't I was like oh my god that song I immediately just had to react every kind of like the Indian in the cupboard kind of

children's movie I feel like at some point uses that song yeah there's another one it's once again I don't speak French sorry guys Gymnopédie by Eric Satie is in there that's in a ton of movies like the version that's in Impressions of France is like

I think orchestrated where it's a piano song but it's in like Royal Tenenbaums and it's in so many different things the song's at the end of this movie I remember hearing somewhere and being like oh where's that from and then when I put it together it's the song

it's the called like the organ symphony or something in the original version but the melody of it is the theme from babe oh oh so it's like over the end of impressions of france there's this like organ song it's like really built to a big climax and they show all these different cool shots of the eiffel tower and all stuff that like a low-key version of that song is that I'm pretty sure the theme from Babe Wow that's crazy. Or maybe the Babe being in the city.

Right right. The Saint-Saëns if I'm saying it sort of right. I didn't realize until I looked it up. I never put this together that it's the version of that is the melody from the Space Mountain Dick Dale version. That's what he's playing. Wow.

Another great piece of theme park music. It's certainly rearranged enough. You'd never put that together. It's a carnival vibe, I guess. I used it for that. The soundtrack notable

too for the way Buddy Baker arranged it. He did a number of Disney projects, some of the animated movies. It's the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra playing these arrangements at Abbey Road Studios.

Abbey Road, mm-hmm. And it was, there's a few titles or honorary things that Impressions to France holds. This is the first movie, let me get this right this is the first movie with a digital soundtrack recorded from beginning to end on a digital recorder like there were only two Sony digital recorders in the world and they got

the one from Los Angeles to Abbey Road Studios to record this whoa okay which I guess is just part of the the technology boom that was going on because they wanted to show off so much technology in all these movies at Epcot.

There's a lot at their disposal. That's pretty crazy. The other title it holds, from the Guinness World Records people, this is the, again, very specific, this is the longest running daily screening of a film in the same theater

hmm so I guess what else would it be I mean is anything ever gonna beat it at 35 years I believe like 80 they're counting 82 to 2017 I think when it's shut down sing along with

bell will you know in the 2080s or something like that 82 to 2017, I think, when it shut down. Sing Along with Belle will, you know, in the 2080s or something like that. It's there to stay. Wait, let's talk about that, because yeah, so they've started during the day, mostly you go, and it is this Beauty and the Beast sing-along

thing. Has anybody done it for any reason, or learned what it is at all? I have not done it. I reason or learned what it is i've not done it i haven't i have not since they allowed it in um yeah since it invaded it invaded friday led the wolf in the story it's like the newcomer comes and you know bad you know slowly slowly takes away the spotlight until until impressions of france wash you know walks into the ocean and drowns to death. It's an odd... I looked it up, and they did get new voiceover from Angela Lansbury, who kind of steps you through the story quickly,

but it's this bizarre reimagining of the story where LeFou, Gaston's friend, was the secret guardian angel behind everything and was helping bring Beauty and the Beast together. Oh, wow. He helps in the kitchen during Be Our Guest, and he maybe sews or at least gets the dress ready, the famous yellow dress. Like a Rosencrantz and

Guildenstern kind of thing. Oh, I guess so. You didn't see, like, the true, yeah. Yeah. Apparently. Which is interesting, but also not by, but LeFou is evil, right? I mean, I guess maybe it's made to make you question your

feelings on LeFou. At death's hapless. Does LeFou make, does he make them fall in love? Like, does he send, like, letter, romantic letters to each of them from his own like perspective to try to get them to get like he might just like he kind of like nudges them maybe he might like whisper in their ears in a Cyrano fashion I'm not sure I the video I watched is very confusing it just like only shows you the LeFou parts it's a lefou super cut so i really couldn't make heads or tails of what was going on most of the time it sounds bad that sounds bad

and and thankfully the video cut out anytime anyone started singing because the little bits that i heard of like a bunch of like several tired parents singing there's something sweet um i don't really want to see that kind of uncool that they didn't bring like paul goubet for another credit you know yeah yeah absolutely he's the spirit of that theater and we know his verse like kind of like wonder

woman 84 right they'd be bringing you know just as a courtesy they bring it back for one right one line yeah yeah yeah credits post credits he's the he's a mater d now at the beast's castle and has been ever since his encounter with virginia the talking vagina i did not know they made an

original i just assumed it would be the set pieces of the movie with little animated transitions or little cards in between like but it's a little more than that interesting but yeah a little more than that. But yeah, a little more than that. But it seems to lean towards our more like, well,

that's complicated. Oh, Iago actually is the hero of Aladdin, didn't you know? Iago helped. I thought that story went a little too neatly. There was somebody behind the scenes. Yeah. And then that was obviously the villain's sidekick

he's the one who helped yeah uh turtle talk with crush reveals that crush both um disappeared nemo and helped him come back so he was playing both sides yeah like yo jimbo like fistful of dollars he was playing

both sides makes sense well i like i like reinventing the stories to bring them into the parks. But like, yeah, what do we do? I mean, Matt, you were kind of alluding to, is this episode the best chance at the moment to try to encourage people currently defying the pandemic

in Disney World to go sit in this movie theater? I guess, I don't know. Should we not tell people to go to sit in this movie theater i guess i don't know should we not tell people to go to a movie theater right now probably not yeah i mean when it is safe you know like i said you gotta have a you gotta have kind of a philosophical attitude these things you know it's in the spirit like i said a world's fair stuff it comes and it goes and you have to accept it i don't want it to go i want go. I do like it is cool that for whatever

reason all these other things have changed but this little movie that is just in the forgotten corner of Epcot has lasted this whole time and is shown every day and it would be nice if it lasted as long as the park lasted. One little piece that doesn't hurt anybody. Show it one time a day.

Come on. Give me a break. Imagine Joe Rohde was saying he thinks of these things like Broadway shows. They don't go forever. So it had a great run if it is going away. But why not? It is nice these days. Your favorite movies like this, you can watch them on YouTube. They're nice.

They don't pull them down. They're great. The resolution is really good. it's not the same thing but i mean like it's nice that you're able like now before talking about this i could watch the whole thing and you know yeah i discovered on spotify the entire soundtrack to impressions of france is one track is available from one of the official disney albums only like 18 19 minutes long of the official Disney albums. It's only 18, 19 minutes long of the whole thing. Music's great. I'm sure it'd be great to do War II or something.

Right, right. Yeah, so it's like, you know, hey. It exists. It can live on. It can live. What if they, to keep it, they just insert LeFou into many of the shots? Right. He explains he got the couple to get married.

Yeah. He stole the woman's top. That's right. He releases the balloon. He stole the woman's top. That's great. Thank you. So yeah, maybe that's something that can be reached. People like backstory. If that's really what people want is more

machinations and backstory. That's like the wave of the future we can do that we can retrofit it we can add that to you know Spacia birth like oh you know here's Judy Dash teaching the Phoenicians out of like right or whatever it's more complicated we can do that

some of these great attractions yeah yeah let's complicate them all but maybe several pre-shows also maybe like let's build a them all but maybe maybe several pre-shows also maybe like as many let's build a bunch of tiny pre-show rooms so that's two one additional thing where we're talking about the great the great world showcase films did you guys happen when you were talking about um uh olaf uh talk about the old the old norway film called spirit of norway check it out that might be my favorite that's been gone for a long time now it was like the post show

right middle stream that even they they were like people just like walked right through it is great it is like to me it is like the pinnacle of the art form and worth checking out yeah we haven't done Maelstrom yet so I assume it'll be part of that but I could easily see it being it's own episode don't be like every person who ever wrote Maelstrom and just walk right by it's worth like 5 seconds every time

it's right my very bookish family would always sit and watch it and I was always mad when people walked by like hey hey have a little respect I didn't think you were allowed like as a kid I'm like no sit and watch it. And I was always mad when people walked by like, hey, hey, have a little respect. I didn't think you were allowed. Like, as a kid, I'm like, no, the door's closed. Can't leave. Cool, like, aqua blue chairs. It was like a great little theater they had.

It was great. I do like that room a lot. Yeah, well, we should do a... The Norwegians are a proud people, as the movie told me. Proud people of Norway with, like, just a few minutes of your time to tell you about their fascinatical... That's fascinating... It's not a lot. We should do a maelstrom episode and then like bring it to a climax and finish. And then, oh, wait, the movie.

Here's another hour about this movie. So don't go. There's a couple of businessmen signing a paper. A man falling asleep. There's literally a long scene of a man falling asleep in a chair don't they show like sort of like massive IBM like really old computer technology that's one of my

memories of it you could fall asleep in a chair they were just showing you what you could do like you can fall asleep if you're gonna sit and watch that's okay harder to fall asleep in Impressions to France cause while the narration is a little hard to read on youtube um the volume of it is very clear like they play that music loud they're always talking about they're always looking for ip

these days right again canceling i'm yeah i'm gonna chop to disney world showcase expanded universe with just the movies the characters from the movies the impressions of France you just shoot a little runner at the end to be like where Paul Gabay goes and he recruits the all stars and then they meet the American Adventure at the end or something

they meet Neil deGrasse Tyson and that's it that's the're the bad guys oh good that's better oh he has to go clear american adventure of all the pedophiles that live in all the sex crime not neil degrasse no no that's a different that's a different thing all the people who have scandals behind them have to be ridded from like Ghostbusted out of American Adventure. Yeah, yeah.

There's probably probably in the statue. I don't know, you know, from the animatronics that are still there. They got to do like a Me Too swipe of all the backstories of all those guys. Yeah. This is good. A lot of potential, I think.

Yeah, just good, honest people rounding up people who got corrupted by fame and uh uh living too much of an american adventure too much they just they adventured a little too hard i honestly those things are important part of the american story as well you know yeah yeah yeah yes yeah you know drug problems like all that stuff it's all of it yeah yeah getting drunk with power it it is unfortunate they did insert the head of the robin hood app into the end of that movie it seems like that was misguided all the things every time they keep stepping in it like yeah yeah um well uh, final, any last impressions de France to have on record,

to encourage people to check this thing out when it is safe to do so? A lot of good hot air balloon stuff in there. Oh, some great hot air balloons. Yeah. Great hot air balloon stuff. We were talking about that recently. I forgot there was more in this. Yeah, yeah.

Non-Air Force One related. You know what you have to give it up to? And what apparently part of the 360 thing was, is now we can do camera moves. Because 360, those rigs are so crazy, you can kind of only move back and forth. But with this 200 degree thing, you could tilt. And it is very striking when it tilts up the Eiffel Tower. And you think it's cool. And like, wow, that's a big wide grand

shot but the I didn't realize how difficult it was to do that just a mere tilt was really insane and they had to build a special rig to be able to do it so good job on the tilt everybody great tilt yeah I don't know it's just

pleasant it's that thing that we say about some rides. Pleasant. It's very pleasant and that's good. There's a dog parade. A bunch of dogs go by. Shout out to the dogs. The pastry window revs you up for the pastry shop next door. I love that train car. I love the train car. Oh, the train car sequence where it's a, where it's like a bunch of the screens and then it goes down to the middle

and it feels like the scenery is rushing by you. That is a great effect. We're eating a nice full meal on a train car. Wouldn't that be fun? Oh my gosh. It's so nice. I mean, it certainly helps that we've been inside for a year to make me want to get on a train car and get a meal.

But yes, it looks lovely. Food off of a real plate at this point, seems like. Yeah. Instead of me just, like, crouched by my fridge, like, shoveling peanut butter into my mouth from the... Like, this counts as a meal. Wait, you would do that before we recorded at your house. Shut up! Shut up, Jason.

Impressions to your apartment. That's new, Jason. That's a new behavior. Okay. It's only quarantine. Oh, you know one more thing? I like the wallpaper. Matt, you talk about fancy Epcot for fancy boys and girls. Nothing fancier than that wallpaper.

It's nice and I don't know if it's gold leafed, but it's a golden hue and I like being in that lobby. The little area they keep you in before you go in with the little art displays of art and architecture of France is great. People, fancy French people talking to you, welcoming you there. Yeah.

It's nice. It's just they really get all the aspects of it and really respects the form so that they have a big grand movie house to show you scenes of their country. It's very nice. Anyone want to try to pronounce how they say what the... We know it's palace, but do you want to guess how that palace is said? Mike, you're the French expert oh yeah that's a good question isn't it palace with the ais how do you say it yeah i uh isn't it palais palais probably palais cinema all right all right we uh well thanks for rescuing us jason

we didn't embarrass ourselves further uh and uh matt thank you for giving us an opportunity to talk about this thing for for a while uh you survived podcast the ride uh i really appreciate you being here um let's exit through the gift shop is there anything you'd like to plug uh no i want to i came here to plug impressions to france check it out let's go it get those numbers up let's keep this thing. Let's push. It's opening at 6pm now. Let's get down to 5. Let's get popular enough to carve an hour out of the Beauty and the Beast thing.

Small, achievable goals. Let's get a Reddit going to make sure everybody gets into Impressions de France, driving the popularity of it up. Let's short it. No,'s short it. No, not short it. We're going to Disney short it.

No, we're doing collective action. Oh, you're right. I don't know anything works. That's why I just so don't know how this works that I thought that was shorting. No, no, no. Not short it. Yeah, we're not shorting it. We're sticking it to Disney who's shorting it.

That's right. That's right. You know, you can people should just like watch the YouTube on repeat. Maybe that's the way to get the numbers up now if you want to. Because let's make Impressions to France go viral and then they'll think twice. Yeah. Yeah. You can find like high res copies both head on and from the side. And I honestly

think the side ones, when you can see a little of the extra screens, it's the effect worked a little more for me. You can see happy wedding guests who seem to little of the extra screens, the effect worked a little more for me. You can see happy wedding guests who seem to approve of the ceremony. It's like being in the pew, like you're sitting next to...

It gives you the sensation of sitting next to someone, something we can't do right now. Oh, yeah, that's nice. Yeah, that's really the main reason. Well, yeah, lots of reasons to watch it, Matt. Thanks for bringing it to the table here. As for us, you can check us out on your favorite social media, whatever that may be. And for three bonus episodes every month, check out Podcast The Ride The Second Gate at patreon.com slash podcasttheride.

And so, au revoir I guess I'll say je suis desolée I'm sorry to our French listeners for not speaking more French what else do I can I je suis Michael no that's wait

je m'appelle Michael is how to say my name so I get a little more French there so the end of the episode is I am Michael I am yeah yes we Michael Michael is what I'm saying to the good people of France so on that note

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