Podcast: The Ride - Indiana Jones Adventure 2 with Matt Cardona

Episode Date: December 6, 2024

The "Indy God" Matt Cardona graces Podcast: The Ride with his presence for the long-awaited sequel to the Indiana Jones Adventure episode. Why yes we are still Scott-free, why do you ask? "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (Tokyo DisneySea Version) with Matt Mazany" episode is up at: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide  FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever Dog Warning the following podcast may contain muscly waiters, copycat little rascals, an apathetic fear of snakes, and skull counting. Yes, finally, it's the sequel that everyone has been asking for. Indiana Jones Adventure 2 on today's podcast, The Ride, a theme park podcast that has to remind you, do not look into the eyes of our hosts, or else they will take that as an invitation to talk to you about all the weird, annoying stuff the Disneyland app does. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. Where did that one come from?

Have you been sitting on that? I completely invented it off the top of my head like five minutes ago. You think it's good? That's why you're the best. That's why you're the best. Look, we've done so many

of these dumb intros. At this point, it's like pulling teeth to get something out of my head that's not the same shit. So there I go. I came up with something clever, right? Enough about this.

We have a lot to do today, and we have a very important guest. He's returning to Podcast The Ride, and most importantly, he is the Indie God, which is very appropriate for the topic today. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back, Matt Cardona. Oh, thank you very much. Death Match King, always ready.

Internet champion, the the complete but most importantly for this episode the indie god thanks for having me guys thank you for doing this uh i don't know in case you don't know this matt some of the some of the history uh the recent history is that scott is on hiatus for now he so we've been doing these scott free episodes i'm a listener of the show sure but sometimes you sometimes you'll text me and you'll say like for instance that tomorrowland where we sort of redid what we thought tomorrowland should be you said like yeah what is this fantasy booking crap or something you'll text me things so you'll be like i saw i'll be like okay sometimes he doesn't listen that's fine i

tried to get you to listen to mcgruff one and two i think for years and you were like no not interested there's something i skip yeah i skip the uh the city walk stuff that's fine some people say that's the high watermark of the podcast that's fine some people say that's the good stuff and the rides are bad you know it all depends so i understand right it all depends like i'll listen to the city walk the orlando city walk stuff but when you're going into the the hollywood city walk i'm not even familiar with that right i get that that makes sense so have you gone to the piano bar at orlando city walk many times okay so if you is it packed in there because when scott and i went we literally were the only two

people in there i closed it down i've been in there when it was i wouldn't say packed but it wasn't it wasn't just two people okay well that's good because i was worried about it so here's the thing and i know we're here to talk about indiana jones but yeah i listen i live in orlando okay and uh it's great it's i feel very lucky very fortunate blessed it's great to be living in orlando during this theme park renaissance disneyverse universal who's gonna top who you know yeah it's a lot of fun but i will leave my house to go to disney springs i will leave my house to go eat somewhere on disney property right i will not leave my house to go to cowfish you know i'm saying we well yes cowfish is awful to to find like i'm just i don't think anything on universal property food wise is good if i'm in the park yeah i'll stop on the way out but i'm not

leaving my house to go to the nbc grill you know i'm saying i will leave my house to go to the california grill sure last night see this makes sense. But the problem is we have City... Well, we live in Burbank. CityWalk is very close. So that's the closest... We can get there in 15 minutes. To get to Downtown Disney, depending on the time of day, hour, hour 15, could be 90 minutes. So we have to take what we can get.

So that's, I think, why we end up spending more time just at CityWalk than at Downtown Disney. But I do understand what you're saying. Disney in general, higher quality restaurants, more scenic, more interesting stuff. That being said, the Margaritaville has a lovely porch. The Jimmy Buffett plane is there.

The Hemisphere Dancer is there. So there are things that I would once in a while navigate to. I would make a point to go there. If I'm not at the park, I will not go to any of those places. If we would you meet us like would you you would not even meet a friend at CityWalk. Would you insist they go to Disney Springs? The parking situation for CityWalk is atrocious. You know that.

Well, we didn't actually park. We didn't actually have to park there. The Uber is even worse. And I listen, if i'm going there i'm drinking right because i do have the i have the annual pass i can do the uh the valet but i can't drink and drive so i can't even valet so i gotta take an uber like a sucker and you're all the way at the top of that garage you gotta walk all the way it's oh my god it's like 20 minutes it's a walk. And it is a big walk to get in. That is true. Yeah. But I guess we didn't have that.

Really what we should have done for the City Walk Saga is we should have done a simulation of your life to know what a local is experiencing. I should have slept in like a guest room of yours or your toy room. And then I would have taken a lift over alone to City Walk, gotten hammered, and then taken the lift back at

like 3 a.m and of course slept again in your house and then i would have known what a local is experiencing so maybe we just have to do the whole city walk thing again to really figure out what it's like another another trick i do if i'm going to the parks i will uber to the hard rock hotel yes and then i will walk you know yes i've done this if it's if it's perfect timing take the water taxi right yes i've done that waiting yeah i had to negotiate with the buy this is um repeating stories but i had to negotiate with the bus driver who was taking me from accidentally me going to volcano bay and he didn't understand what i was telling him i was like i'm going to hard rock but i can walk from hard rock to volcano bay and he didn't understand what i was telling him i was

like i'm going to hard rock but i can walk from hard rock to city walk and he's like no you can't do that and i was like dude i've done it i know what i'm talking about you bro i know like and then he kept he told me to get off at the wrong hotel and i was like is it this guy's first day he seemed like an older guy he seemed like he'd been there a while but then he realized i was right and he let me off the bus so yeah that trick can i ask about california grill do you ever do the frowned upon trick of doing a lift to contemporary getting out and then walking over to magic kingdom no comment would you admit okay no comment but i will say yesterday i don't know when this is airing but um ch and I, we had an early Thanksgiving. Because we're not going to spend Thanksgiving together.

So we had dinner at the Liberty Tree Tavern in Magic Kingdom. And I knew I'd be having a couple cocktails. So I took an Uber to the ticket and transportation center. But I feel dirty lying to the people to get into contemporary the only i'll admit the only time i've ever done that is when i was running so low on time it was the only option and i had a reservation and then i ended up for for a contemporary to eat it right chef mickey's but then i ended up having to cancel it and yes i was bad i will admit i'm bad boy they can ban me if they want.

But I will always, from Magic Kingdom, walk to the Contemporary to get my Uber home. Always. Yes. Yeah, why not? Yeah. And then you have to go in the Contemporary and just smell the lobby.

Right. Last night we had a little after dinner drinks at the California Grill. There's nothing better. Have you guys dined at the california grill yes yes yes really good number one what is your no i'd like to hit what's your number one i mean i haven't done everything possible at disney oh no neither have i but i've done all the hits i believe i mean as far as i did do we did like more of like a pizza and drinks at the California grill. Pizza?

Yeah. That means you sat at the bar. It does mean I sat at the bar. I didn't do it for a meal. I didn't do it for a meal. Wait, so you've never sat, you've never been to California grill. I guess I haven't. There's a price fix menu.

Oh, you were talking about the whole, they tell you what you're eating. Well, that's how it is. That's how it is. I'm not just sitting at the bar like a jabroni pizza well but isn't part of it the ambience isn't part of it looking out the service and you can't be looking out if your back is again you know if you're facing the bar well you're gonna be the weird guys turn around watch people eat dinner but there's a bar there's an area where you can sit in like couches that's not just the bar where your back is to the view i guess between it's in between you're still getting some of it you're still sniffing you're still sniffing the

experience well no wonder california grill is not your favorite restaurant you only had a pizza there i guess i guess jason have you done it it was good honestly it was good pizza i did um yeah like 10 years ago i don't guys what are we doing i ate the last time i was down there with family we ate at the topolino terrace okay i like that a lot i like it a lot and you can see the fireworks uh you can see some of the epcot nighttime show um it's great you can take the skyliner there you know to use a wrestling reference i refer to topolino's as nwo california grill you know i'm saying like nwo sting you know it was like sting but it wasn't sting right sure it's california grill but it's not california grill a little different yeah a little edgy a little edgier yeah it's rooftop it tries to have the same it's it's not the same guys it's just not yeah so what is the number one what have you ever

been to a real restaurant at disney world i'm exposing you guys do you consider ohana i mean asian yeah that's a real restaurant It wouldn't You know It's not in my top five But it's actually number one I've had it three times In the last decade And I feel like The first time was amazing

Ten years ago And then it's gotten worse since And then I had done Liberty Tree I very famously On the show Ate a meal for one At Liberty Tree Tavern

Yeah And I Packed it in Right before a plane like four bit four rolls just trying to shove it in uh but i was trying to you know do my i was trying to have join the clean plate club okay you're a big boathouse guy well yeah we both agree the boathouse boathouse yes that might be my number two yes i like paddle fish a lot whenever we do whenever whatever we do with down with the disney springs you're pegged for the boathouse episode i think you need ricky

too well and this is also part of it is that there's a guy you know they're named ricky that you keep talking about the best waiter there you mentioned ricky I hope we're not doxing him or something. Ricky is the best waiter at the boathouse. He's like 265 pounds jacked. And I don't want to get him in trouble, but he always gives me extra potatoes. God, Jason, this sounds like your guy. Sorry, good potatoes. Extra potatoes, man.

Well, look, I didn't make it down there the last trip, but I've been the other two times. Have you done the little car in the water? I have not. I've never done that. That feels like an important part of the bo trip but i've been the other two times in the boat have you done the have you done a little car in the water i have not i've never done that oh that feels like an important part of the boathouse yeah it's one of those things like since i live here i'm like i'll do it next time and you never do it it's like yeah yeah i lived in new york for 30 plus years i never went to the uh statue of liberty oh really i'm saying yeah but i live here you know i'll do it eventually so you've never done it never done it it's kind of tiny though it's kind of unimpressive yeah i just anytime i i haven't been over there but every time i've been in new york i look at it go oh yeah it's kind of

small whatever well you're just watching it you're seeing it from a distance just watch ghostbusters too yeah that's true very true it's basically then then it moves and it's doing cooler stuff that is very true so yeah that doesn't upset me it upsets me more that you haven't been in the little boat in the water than see the statue of liberty honestly i did once eat at the boathouse with i'm gonna name drop lentesta well hold on now we're talking yeah we're talking that's that is a good that's like a power meal they call call it power lunch or dinner. They recognize Len and they comp to the whole meal.

Wow. What? Yeah. Oh, my God. Wow. It was impressive. That's the power. That's like if somebody listens to Podcast The Ride and we go like Dave and Buster's somebody one time, they're like, here, have a free drink.

And that's, by the way, more than enough. That's so nice. Sure. I don't think we've ever had a like, the meal is on us, Mr. Testa. Yeah. That's impressive. Very. He has a reputation for being a nice man everywhere.

He's the best. Yes. Yes. He's very nice. And look, next time, Boathouse, you and Len were both out of town last time we were in Orlando. This is the tragedy. We did the big Orlando trip and both you, you were, I think, wrestling and Len was like lecturing at MIT or something.

Len was giving some sort of symposium somewhere on something smart. It might have been theme parks, but it was from a smart angle, I'm sure. Got it. So, i don't know hopefully fingers crossed uh epic universe time i'm very excited about that i'm excited and nervous yeah it's kind of same yeah wait okay yeah go explain why you're nervous real quick i don't know why it's just uh well anytime any a company opens like a brand new ride let alone a whole new park and a park that is being sold is like all this technology all these advanced rides

uh i i feel like i'm just hoping hoping they work you know hoping they work, you know? Hoping they work operationally and then crowd-wise. It seems like they're managing crowds in a smart way, you know? But you're thinking like everything can just break down. It'll be like original Universal Orlando where nothing worked. I don't think it'll be that

bad, but I remember the opening summer of Diagon Alley waiting three or four hours to do hagrid or to not hagrid's to do um gringotts yeah yeah yeah that's a little too long so uh yeah now hopefully it's spread out people are spread out because it's a whole new park but uh yeah i i'm just trying to be realistic and manage expectations and again this is not a shot at universal this is just like any company that opens a new thing there's going to be growing pains you know yeah sure i mean they should invite us to tour with a hard hat on before it opens

so we can get we can see it running before it breaks down when all the crowds come do you guys get invites as media to do stuff like that okay here's the thing six flags invites us to a lot of stuff and they're god bless them they're so nice yes but for some reason knott's Berry Farm kicked us off the list this Halloween. I don't know what the hell's going on. Oh, my gosh. Universal out here is still good to us, and we'll go to Horror Nights. Not the red carpet events, but they'll get us into Horror Nights.

And we did a Mario press event. But Universal Orlandolando a little quiet and disney nothing disney's never disney would not never acknowledge that we exist wow yeah and i don't know unfortunately i'd like to think that's because we're like the edgiest theme park podcast but there's a good chance they just have never heard of it that's probably a little both it could be a little of both but i'd like to think that they're like oh man we can't let those those wild men in here they're gonna tear they're gonna tear our new stuff up god institutionally now we've talked plenty of

people who've worked for the company and various departments and wings and stuff uh who listen yes that's true yeah as a as an institution no no but we look we'd love to get on the list we like i mean i've begged the most of this podcast is me begging to get into press events that's a majority of what i do in the seven years but uh yeah so we'll see i've emailed orlando i've emailed they know they know we're there okay so so we'll see and we have we know some people around too so so we'll see what happens but i would like to i would like to enjoy it before the crowds break it well good luck guys i'm rooting for you thank you thank you um so today i mean man we're already off topic here i was going to talk about muppets closing

but i don't even know if we have time so let's not talk about muppets closing uh real quick let's go around and say what we think about it closing i uh i will say this i don't like that it's closing but for some reason i seem i feel more bothered by rivers of america closing anyway jason what do you think uh i'm i'm a little bummed out uh yeah i uh i i think i understand the logic if they're trying to save money because a lot of the monstropolis stuff is going to be redecorating and re-theming what's already there so when i realized that was what was happening i'm like oh that's why they're not building at star wars launch bay or animation courtyard like oh they can retheme the theater they could just retheme the theater and the restaurants and everything so you like it or

you don't so no not really i mean i i hate always loved my 3D, and my family specifically always loved Mama Melrose, so that's gone. Sure. And I think I'm just in the camp that's like, Disney World has so much land, you know, there's such a giant parking lot outside of MGM, outside of Hollywood Studios, that, like, they could build fresh

so re-theming doesn't doesn't make as much sense to me and also like there is a theater next to rock and roller coaster just put muppet's vision in there i feel like would quell some people's uh you know of being upset i think they're putting in some sort of villains show which does seem a little silly as they're building a whole new villains land at the magic kingdom so man yeah i mean i'm not happy about it but it was going to happen you know it's bound to happen yeah i am kind of you know they gave us they're giving us the muppets the rocket roller coaster which another another one of my favorites gone yeah but you know it's it's not a museum as walt said or did he ever actually say that i'm not sure but i don't know if he said that but somebody said

it somebody said it someone said walt said it but listen it was gonna happen star wars launch bay i don't know what the fuck it's still doing in either park oh i know like what are we doing if you listen to our episode where we imagine different scenarios where star wars launch bay went away i think you would you would see we agree with you no yeah so listen it is what it is uh I also love Mama Melrose, but that wasn't quite Muppet themed anyway. So the Pizza Rizzo is gone. Pizza Rizzo. I mean, come on. That needed to go.

Let's go. Come on. Now that I know is a fighting words for many people, not necessarily us. We haven't done an episode, but that is people are very protective of Pizza Rizzo. So, well, I mean, we'll look. I don't know how long this is.

I don't know if we're going to get a chance to do it before it closes, both Rockin' Roller Coaster and Muppet Vision. But we will continue talking about this and debating. I honestly, I don't think Rockin' Roller Coaster is the right ride for the Muppets. Sue me. It goes too fast. It's not a whimsical ride vehicle. It's too, like, what, you're going a whimsical ride vehicle it's too like what you're

gonna blow by a big neon kermit head i mean i'm not against that but it just doesn't feel right to me i feel like they're gonna do something fun with the the pre-show sure the pre-show that'll be the queue will be probably fun and fine but the ride itself it's like it's kind of forcing a round peg in a square yeah i was gonna say a round peg in a square. I was going to say a round peg in a square hole, but you understand what I'm saying. But I'd rather the Muppets than some other random band. I think I agree with that, but I think it depends. I could be swayed.

What band would you like there? That's a good question. We've talked about this. I mean, it would be funny because you want the band in the intro you want the band in the intro video so like if you do the beatles two of the members are dead and the beatles don't have the high energy music you want no for that either but like the rolling stones i mean i want here's what i want i want old men to replace old men. So I'm trying to think of what old men,

even like Kiss is kind of interesting just from the perspective of there's a bunch of old men and it's like they have some fast songs. Like that's what I want to, I want to preserve the oldness of the music in some way. I mean, you could go new. You could go with some like, I mean, it's hard because there's not really

many big new rock bands that are as popular. And you can't predict that they're going to, you know, stand the test of time like Aerosmith did. That's true. So, I mean,

people have thrown out Taylor Swift, but that music isn't high energy necessarily. Like, it's not the high energy that you want for the rock and roller coaster. No, no, no, no. So, I really, it's hard. Like, Coldplay?

Come on. Oh, God. Stop it hard. Like, Coldplay? Come on. Oh, God. Stop it. That's what I buy with the Muppets. Would you want like a Backstreet Boys overlay on the rock and roller coaster? No, come on. I love the Backstreet Boys,

but come on, let's get serious here. Well, their music is a little more like sexy. A little more upbeat. Yeah, well, there's some upbeat songs. And more upbeat. Larger than life. Yeah, yeah, but that's, I mean, does that feel,

would that feel right going 60 miles an hour in that limo? No, no. I don't think so either. They need a more like sensual ride, I think too. Because you want, you want both, you want their high energy stuff, but you want some of the sexy, the sexiness of some of their ballads as well. So that, again, a different ride system for Backstreet Boys, the ride would be appropriate.

All right. Let's get on to the topic at hand because there's too much to talk about. We're all over the place already. We are doing... I am... Oh, go ahead, Mike. Yeah. Announce what we're doing before I comment on it.

So, for years now, I've been suggesting to Scott, we need to do Indiana Jones Adventure 2. And he has been resistant. I'm not quite sure why. I think on some level, he wants to do Indiana Jones Adventure 2. And he has been resistant. I'm not quite sure why. I think on some level, he wants to finish all the other rides. There's been big rides we haven't done yet, Space Mountain, Mr. Toad. But I said, I bet if you go back and listen to, it was our second episode ever. I bet if you go back and listen, we did a bad job. We didn't go thoroughly through everything. kind of glazed over and i went back and i listened and boy was i right we padded this thing out we barely talked about the ride i was telling jason yesterday i go it sounds it seems like we talked about the ride for like 30

minutes and we basically just highlighted a couple things we liked and then we did a bunch of other crap and i think it's not right i think we needed to go back and we need to talk more about this great ride and that's what we're here today now that scott is gone we were able to be naughty and do indiana jones adventure too and that's what we're doing here today we were and look we were we were young we were inexperienced you know we were not we didn't know how to make love back then we knew how to uh uh have sexual intercourse but we didn't know how to take our time you know what i'm saying something on your mind today michael what do you mean because i because i was talking about how the backstreet boys just wound me up i

think and then it sort of just permeated into this analogy okay that must be what happened is the is the show me the meaning of being lonely or whatever that backstreet boys song is came into my head and now here i am being creepy that's what happened wow so anyway we have a lot of stuff to talk about let's just go over in general our thoughts on this ride now because it's been seven years since we did our indiana jones episode does this ride still hold up do we still like it is it better worse is it the same uh let's go with jason for let's ask jason first oh uh yeah i i think it's great i haven't been on it in a while and they this is one that they continually do uh upgrade i mean i think they

have to do maintenance on it because it's such an involved ride so i am happy to see they do regular maintenance on it and there's been a lot of projection effects and like they've changed some of the scenes around a little yeah that's that's a big reason we have talked today, because there's new effects now on the ride since we've talked about it the first time. Yes. Some might call them minor, but they are there, and they do need to be discussed. Matt, how do you feel about this?

Now, okay, you guys are California. I'm Orlando, but even before that, I was New York. So this is not something I get to go on that often, so it's much more special right when i do might be my number one in all of california yeah that's including california adventure it might be my number one and that's that's not even you know taking into account that i'm the indie god which is a playoff indiana jones like of course that aside i just think the you know no screens animatronics huge set you know and like i don't think you need to be a fan of indiana jones to be a fan of this ride there's thrills it's fun it's exciting yes it is uh yeah seven years later i feel the same way it's

the ultimate it's kind of still in my mind the ultimate ride it's like i still i mean i know i have a contentious relationship with rise of the resistance but even though rise of the resistance is a great ride this ride i still like it better than that ride this ride is so awesome from start to finish and i've only loved it more going on it's like i have it hasn't dwindled at all in my what at this point 15 to 20 years going on it it's only gotten better to me it's amazing it really is you bring up rise i think rise might be the best theme park ride ever if you did every theme park ride once and compared them i don't know if the re-ride ability is there with rise it's interesting not very thrilling you know some of the cannons don't

even work anymore sometimes kylo doesn't work i know sometimes the the lightsaber doesn't come from the ceiling yeah you know what i'm saying yeah yeah yeah and even when go on indiana jones over and over and over and over and over. And Indiana Jones, like they'll break stuff. Stuff isn't working all the time. There's like shit that's supposed to happen. Your Jeep is supposed to around the corner and fire is supposed to shoot up. I've certainly been on it plenty of times when the fire doesn't shoot up through the skull and like lasers don't shoot at you.

Stuff doesn't always work on it, but for some reason it doesn't hurt it like it does for like Rise of the Resistance. Yes. And I think it's just so much shit going on at once that it doesn't matter as much. It's like, talk about like modern theme park stuff, like Haunted Mansion, you're in the graveyard and if something's not working in the graveyard, it's fine. There's 10 other things to look at. Right, right.

And it's similar with Indiana Jones where like, even if the snake's not working, that snake's big and it's there. But when you get into that big throne room, if stuff isn't working, it's not as big of a deal. Whereas Rise, it's like you're supposed to focus on one thing. Yes, yes. And if that's not working, that's a bummer. Absolutely, I agree.

It's very much like the Pirates of the Caribbean style, where if you pack a giant room with stuff everyone in the boat could catch a different story beat they catch little bits here and there because it's just so packed you might not have the same

thing you focus on you know there's a room in the ride where there's just like tons of skulls and I don't even know that I knew how many like I didn't know like the scope of how many skulls were in there until a couple years going on where you finally like take a look to the left you see more skulls and then there's

a big projection on the wall like it would be so easy to miss a ton of details when you're on this thing and we missed a ton of details talking about it initially that projection I feel like they've upgraded a few times over the years to the point where I forgot about it watching different... I watched a few different ride-throughs throughout the years

just to try and catch what's changed. Yeah. Now, let's go back to the start a little bit, because the queue itself... And now, Matt matt i also brought you on today because you're a little bit of a scott stand-in because you and scott oftentimes have a similar opinion about queues waiting for things yeah not gonna happen pal you're both like all action guys you know you and sc Scott are similar dudes in that way.

So you feel free to contradict what I'm saying or what Jason and I say. Listen, I can appreciate a great cue. You just won't find me waiting on it. Right. Now, this cue forces you to go through it. You have to go through it. Right. I'm not standing there waiting like a sucker looking at everything right now i think once in a while

standing looking like a sucker is nice i think it can be very nice to look like a sucker and wait uh but let me ask you this have you ever do you have a feeling and i'll this i say this specifically at night have you ever come out of this thing at night or gone in at night i have you remember yes jason do you know i'm sorry the atmosphere and the vibe of just the out exterior portion of the line at night is unbelievable now the last time i was there maybe not maybe that's the last time the second um second last time i was there it was cold and i was the last time, the second, second to last time I was there, it was cold and it was a little chilly.

Yeah. So not across the street, but across the way, I bought an Indiana Jones hat and leather jacket and then went on the ride. Well, because that's what the Indie God wears anyway. Those are the ones I wear anyway.

So it was perfect. And then I wore the jacket and then, you know, I went home, put logos on it. I wore it to the ring so I knew it was an investment

piece right but I really felt like Indiana Jones because I put the jacket on the hat on and then rode the ride I mean that rules that's next level I'm trying to think is there any other ride where I've dressed

Jason's never dressed like Mr. Toad and then gotten on the mr toad ride though i would like to see it happen just i sometimes my normal attire is reasonably close but not that close yeah i don't usually have like a cravat or right and you don't have driving gloves in general you don't wear driving gloves no but it's worth considering because it does get pretty it can get very cold at the right time of year christmas is coming though maybe i'll get you driving gloves the same one with the with the you mean fingerless gloves or like leather like whatever toad war i'm gonna buy you that's what i'm saying okay his pantaloons and his driving gloves whatever they were he has goggles i think a whole an ensemble outfit yeah yeah no that is

that's great i can't think of an example where i was wearing the actual outfit from it i want to do it now now that you've said that such thing i didn't even consider wanting to do now but now i want to do it on some ride and i don't know which i don't want to do it in indie because you did it first but i want to do it on a different ride and i can't think of i don't know we'll see we'll come up with a better i mean i guess dress like spider-man on the spider-man ride in orlando they would probably call someone if that if you showed up in a full spider-man costume like if you were just like spider-man pajamas and costume, like, hey, can someone check this guy out? If you were in just, like, Spider-Man pajamas,

and then you put the mask on right before the ride started, I think you'd be fine. Maybe, yeah. I mean, you'd have to manage the 3D glasses, certainly. I think sometimes by happenstance, I've ridden Revenge of the Mummy in Florida and been dressed like Brendan Fraser in the queue, by which I mean casual slacks and like a button up over a t-shirt.

I thought you were going to say you were wrapped in toilet paper like a mummy. That's what I was thinking. What's going on here? I was like, whoa, what? You said like a couple times too. And I was like, what scenarios where you dress like a mummy? Well, that's great. Let's ask the listeners too.

Have you ever dressed like the character on the ride you're going on? Let's see if anyone else has this experience. Have you ever dressed like Imhotep at Halloween Horror Nights and ridden the mummy ride? Well, I feel like at Universal Parks during, you know, for the Harry Potter rides,

there's always people yes that's true the robes yeah the robes which i would never be caught dead wearing because just the heat alone i guess maybe not so much in california but in orlando oh my god yeah it depends but no i'm not gonna i'm not gonna do that but we'll see i don't know maybe i could dress like frankenstein for epic universe just i mean it's a really just it's just a suit honestly um but that ride when you especially at night they're playing the like kind of like old time music the lights are flickering the the greenery is around you it's like we often ask where you would want to like live or you would want to sleep in the park yeah we've said like oh pirates and like the bed or something but like that's that's

kind of a joke answer honest to god i think setting up a little bed in the out exterior queue right by jungle cruise is the premier place to sleep at the park not that it's it's an easy way but if you were to be able to construct a bed and do it it's so good out there at night well it is kind of like an expedition base camp you know it is yes there's there's it's thematically it makes sense but i'm just saying i don't feel other than maybe big thunder at night at disneyland's which is we got the lights going around just there's that really good vibe going on there this is my number one like vibe spot and I wish I could

hang out in it more because you got to leave once you're done with the right can't hang around but if we could like you could have a drink in this zone ooh ooh ooh I'll agree with that now have you ever done like the the Jock Lindsay's hangar bar at Disney Springs? Yes.

Yeah. To me, that doesn't feel Indiana Jones enough. I know. I agree. I was like, I was really excited to do it a couple of years ago. And it was like, it's not. It's fine. But it's like, oh, you can look at there.

Oh, it says Indiana Jones on this clipboard on the wall. What is the theming here? I mean, yeah, it's better than nothing but it's not it doesn't satisfy my craving for being near indiana jones shit there was a pop-up bar i think it's gone in uh hollywood studios like in indiana jones i think it's gone i never got to go yeah i mean you know we're not gonna talk about the show but the show is fantastic i'm sure you both have done it yes of course yes the show's still going to talk about the show, but the show is fantastic. I'm sure you both have done it. Yes, of course. Yes.

The show is still going, too. Timeless. That thing should never get torn down. Yeah. Would you, let's say you were to choose, Muppets goes or Indiana Jones Stunt Show goes? What would you pick? Oh, man. I'm a sucker for Muppets, man.

I love the Muppets. I still think it holds up. And I think there's a lot of things that people don't realize like what's really going on you know there's a lot of attention to detail that gets missed

it's just one of the classic Disney attractions it's a shame that it's leaving yeah but it is what it is I pick Saving Muppets unfortunately but I agree

Indiana Jones should stay around Jason what do you think? that's tough ooh he's thinking it over yeah that's really tough ooh he's thinking it over this isn't a slam dunk well the one Indiana Jones should stay around. Jason, what do you think? That's tough. Ooh, he's thinking it over. Ooh, he's thinking it over. This isn't a slam dunk. The one time we went down there, we were in Hollywood Studios and everyone was kind of splitting up and I'm like,

who wants to go see the Indiana Jones stunt show with me? And no one. The answer was no one. Everyone just wanted to go to... For once, everyone else was going to take a nap. And I'm like, the show's about to start. There's like hardly anyone here.

And so, I don't know. Sounds like you've made a decision. Might be Indy. Wow. Okay. Not a bad choice. But you know, you would rather see that than the legend of Jim Henson live on.

I understand. All right. I knew I was going to get that. Well, okay. Let me say something that'll make you happy, Jason. I looked up the names of the old time songs that play in the exterior part of the queue at Indiana Jones.

Did you do this? You did. You sent me a playlist. Yes. Okay. I did send you that already. Good. And a lot of it is by Glenn Miller.

Glenn Miller had an orchestra a hundred years ago. Oh my God. And this is a type of music jason likes uh he's from a different era but the thing you know moonlight serenade is like the song that you've heard in like movies forever that usually plays and it plays in a lot of these these loop videos but i think that is actually that's like almost a background piece of the atmosphere you're not even noticing is that kind of old time radio sound while you're listening to something that like somebody from, some person from 1920 was listening to. Like that's a big part of making this authentic, which is also a big part of a lot of different ride cues is making like use of old music to give you atmosphere like radiator springs racers is playing 80 year old country music to give you a different vibe

because it feels like you're in a different part of you're in a different time essentially and it is smart i feel like it's a thing that's used in a lot of different lines to make you feel like you've been transported somewhere yeah Yeah, it's a pretty low-key, clever trick that immediately changes the vibe from area to area. Yes. Now, this exterior... I will say this. I generally don't like to wait.

If the ride is... Like, the line is stretching back all the way to this point in the actual exterior queue, I don't necessarily like to wait in an hour in 10 or 20 minutes or something but if it's like you see indian it's like 45 ish minutes you get a little time you get a little time outside then you kind of breeze through the actual themed the really themed interior queue that's closer to what i'm looking for obviously you know the dream is at

the end of the night when no one's there if no if no one's there you can take your time going through the exterior queue and go through that's that's ideal now i'm going in a couple weeks for a i don't want to you know don't talk don't talk to yourself i have have a VIP tour, so I won't be waiting. I'll be waiting a little bit, but not on the main queue. Right. But you will go through. And I would love to go on a road at once. Yeah.

You'll probably go through the exit. Is that what they do? I think they just go through the- Maybe they just cut the line. The lightning lane. In the lightning lane, yeah. Yeah, because you don't go to the very, very front. No, you can't.

Maybe if you're Cody Rhodes, but not if you're Matt Cardona. Oh, well. He's a champ you know that's right yeah there's a special entrance for champs right well i'm the internet champ but that doesn't count that's true yeah but it's also like it is so hard because they built this ride and they it was a logistical problem because they needed to build a long queue to get to the actual building that houses the ride so the reason it's so long was just a logistical problem that they went well let's just build a long cool line to take you all the way to where you're going which is why it's not an easy there's not an easy way in there you have to walk that length and even still like there's you go you walk all that length

and you've got to go upstairs you got to walk upstairs and you got to walk downstairs again i mean i know a lot of lines are like that but it does feel like you do you like walk a mile total to get to the ride and and and it's sometimes if it's the end of the day and your legs are tired it's like oh couldn't i just be on the ride but i do think psychologically you feel like you're way far away from Disneyland at that point. There's something that it does that makes you feel like, oh, shit, I've walked. We're literally nowhere near Disneyland at this moment. Because I've done so much physical effort. I've exerted so much effort.

I must be in a different place. I'm in a different country by now. But it's worth the wait. It's absolutely worth the wait. It's worth the walk. Yeah but it's worth the wait it's absolutely worth the way it's worth the walk yeah work the way worth the walk and they do single rider sometimes on this thing and i think they i don't know like and they i think if you do single rider they oftentimes put you up in the elevator have you never done the elevator i've never done the elevator no you should ask the guide if you can do the elevator not that it's that spectacular but

there is an elevator there and sometimes you can take that up, go over, and then maybe take another elevator. It's very confusing, but... You take the elevator up, go a little, and then you take the elevator, the second one, down. Yeah. So you're crossing over the track, basically. Right.

The other thing you should do is ask the VIP guide if you can use the Star Tours bathroom. Really? There's a's a bad wasn't on my list to even go on that ride we'll see if they'll let you do the star tours bathroom what's special about the bathroom it's just a bathroom that's not open to the public it's a shitty looking bathroom is there like is there like a bidet but it's like a lightsaber and it's like red water or something like that it's r2d2's head opens up and you pee into his head and he beep beep so like he gives you like a happy beep beep like he's okay that was good no uh uh it's just a normal bad to okay bathroom that's when i did my one vip tour yeah i was like oh hey did you want to do the

star tours bathroom and i was like fuck yeah i want to do that whatever that is and then it was a very normal like single stall bathroom but there there is a bathroom in the cube for indiana jones too really because it's so long they built a a bathroom in. I've never used it. I haven't either. That's a good point. I've never seen it, honestly. I always miss it. That is something that I haven't even thought about.

You're right. There's something in there. They did that with Avatar, too, because it's such a long flight of passage. It's such a long queue. That I have used. Oh, you have? Yeah, multiple times. Multiple? Number one or number two just number one but it's like that that's a long that is all can be a long yes yes like and yeah like two hours plus like can you imagine opening weekend or opening year oh my god people probably had to go number two in the uh flight of passage

bathroom probably a lot now now jane got out of line at the river journey because that had a long queue and they gave her a card they gave her like a return ticket right so so they could prevent people jumping the line so they gave it to her when she left, and when she came back, she just gave back to them. And she caught up with us in line. Oh, wow. That's nice. I don't know.

I feel like some rides do that, but a lot don't. But it makes sense. I mean, everybody has seen the people who cheat and pretend. Yeah, I don't like cheaters. Yeah, I mean, it's the phone. You put the phone to your... I've never done that. You put your phone to your, I've never done that. You put your phone to your head.

You go, oh, and you pretend that there's a person up ahead. I can't tolerate that. And, I mean, have you ever put a, I've never said anything. You're like, show me the person up ahead. Let me walk with you. I want proof. I've never done that, no.

Yeah, because it's hard. I swear somebody did this to us. We took my daughter to meet Minnie Mouse, and it was a short line that was just not moving. It was like 14 to 17 people and somebody did that. And I'm pretty like, I'm pretty sure I'm not a hundred percent. They did it, but I'm pretty sure. And I was like, if they are cutting the line, that's the ballsiest move ever.

Because when it's a long line, you'll, they'll be gone by the time you don't notice. But I, I swear they like went into Minnie's house and maybe they did meet family there, ever because when it's a long line you'll they'll be gone by the time sure you don't notice but i sure i swear they like went into minnie's house and maybe they did meet family there but there's a chance they just skipped 17 people in line and did it and it pulled it off which i guess kudos to them for doing it yeah cutting cutting a two-year-old is like well they had yeah that that takes a lot they had a two-year-old with them so they were cutting for their two-year-old no excuse well uh yeah i agree there was also a weird situation because it was like minnie minnie's house kept it said like 20 minutes or something so we're like all right let's wait and we were like to my daughter you want to meet minnie she loves me

meeting characters and then minnie would like meet two people take photos and then leave and i swear it felt like she was going to the bathroom that's i swear i said this i said it feels like minnie has diarrhea and something is preventing her from just like finishing these 12 people and then like closing the meet and greet for now she kept coming back and going and i was like something is wrong with minnie she should just go home but she's a trooper i hope it didn't happen in the costume if that is what was happening but something was up maybe they had to switch minis like somebody had to go home and they had to find a new mini but it felt like there was a start and stop to it and then like my daughter like runs up and meets mini and i'm like oh man i hope mini isn't like really sick that would be a bummer although i guess you know any germs aren't coming through

the snoot right or the costume or diarrhea isn't coming through the costume so i don't know we don't obviously no one's going to tell us that but that was my speculation um but yeah we should try to figure out the indiana jones i should have done that before this episode and i'm kicking my so we're gonna have to do indiana jones three i'll be back and like i said i'll be back there a couple weeks maybe i'll check it out ask the guide and post a post of picture uh and you yeah you make sure make sure you save up though as far as urine to go in these bathrooms i'm talking about in Star Tours bathroom and Indiana Jones I drink a lot of water

so I'll probably be okay sure that's great yeah that's great the tiki room bathrooms are right by the entrance anyone can use those

but those are like single occupancy two yeah still look like the 60s kind of I like that they've changed them

a little bit though because I tried using these I tried changing my daughter in these the other day and they don't have changing tables, but there's only just two sort of family. It's good. It's got privacy,

but there used to be a little bit. I think there was like a stall and a urinal and now they're just two, you know, lock the door. You have the whole bathroom yourself, but that is a good bathroom to go to because most people don't do that.

It's the entrance right before you go in a Tiki Room to the left, two bathrooms. You got total privacy there. That's a good place to go to the bathroom. And that's what you get from listening to Podcasts to the Right. That's right. All these secret bathrooms exposed. Yeah, secret bathrooms exposed. We should just do, we have been threatening to do like a full bathroom episode and maybe

that comes next year. Maybe we do that. We should just do, we have been threatening to do like a full bathroom episode and maybe that comes next year. Maybe we do that. We rank bathrooms. We rank, you know, you rank how private they are, how comfortable, how nice they are. Oh my God, guys. So look, it's year seven.

We're really like, you know, we got to stretch this thing out more and more. Carthay Circle though is maybe my favorite in-park bathroom off the top of my head. So let's go, let's go the temple the temple of the forbidden eye mara is the god is the character in the ride it's the big head but mara is also represented a lot of places in the queue and i didn't realize this that the big stone skull you see when you get the big reveal of the temple that is mara as well it's a decaying

skull of mara of the god itself who is angry at you for looking into its eyes let me pull up a picture of mara so like this is right when you get in the lobby this is a picture of mara a nice looking picture of like first of all does this picture look familiar to either of you no not to me okay because you breezed by it because you just you're so mad at the line you're just like you run jason if does this look familiar to you this picture i believe so yeah it's a mural in the temple the only reason i ask is just because there's it's this ride is still packed with such cool stuff that i was like i don't't even recognize this. And then it's like,

it's the first thing you see when you get in the queue, it's like the first thing you see. And I was like, geez, there's just so much, just cool stuff. So this, okay.

So the whole idea of the ride, and this is a little recap, but I should say, go back and listen to Indiana Jones one. We do cover the basics of it, but I will repeat it here again. Uh, is that Mara is,

you know, basically going to offer you like eternal life, ultimate knowledge, or ultimate wealth, as long as you don't look at the idol's eyes. So here, this picture is supposed to represent all of those things. There's like jewels and money over here. This eye, I think, is supposed to be knowledge.

And then I guess this water is supposed to be like the fountain of youth. Fountain of youth, and it's not future knowledge. See the future. It's seeing the future. It's the third thing. Oh, sorry. Yes, you're right.

Seeing the future. So like Mara's pouring out the fountain of youth water. But I don't know. All this to highlight, I'm like, this is awesome to me. This is such a cool piece of art that really feels like authentic to some old temple i'm gonna look for it next time i go look for it just give it a give it a like nod see this is really all i want from if you learn something on podcast the right or hear about it i just want you to look at something you go nod and then if you're feeling really

excitable you you nudge to your significant other and you go hey take a look at that and then they go yeah okay and then you keep moving through that's all i ask that's really our job is done if if that's what you've got if that's what comes out of listening to podcasts all right um so there's just a ton of that stuff all over there's little things and we talked before about how there's like secret language that is written all over the's little things and we talked before about how there's like secret language that is written all over the temple and for a few years they gave out the decoder little cards that would you could decode what the actual writing was and most of it is like just like be careful it's mostly warnings about mara be be scared of mara don't do this thing um but it is cool that it's all there who grew up

in southern california and were kids were very excited about those decoder cards and did make the time pass a little in the temple that feels yeah that feels like a that feels like a thing and they've they've kind of they put it on an app one of the disney apps or whatever where you can do it now but that does feel like an old like 30 years ago you could occupy a kid by handing them a little piece of paper and then saying like oh look at the wall there and right decipher what but like i assume like my daughter's brain is probably fried already from screens i've like we've just decimated that thing like she's already got adhd probably and that's not going to play so well but i think there is some sort of app component to it where you can learn what it is on on on your phone i don't know if it's play disney app i don't know

if it's a disneyland app itself but there's some way to still like see all of it and then they also have all these things constructed to make it look like somebody's actively working on this temple which i think is a very cool detail too it looks like they're it's like the temple is in construction as well like there's some great i don't know i guess it's a pain would be a painter painting these images of mara which i like i like that it feels like we're still working on it like we're coming into an active site because like the narrative of the ride is that they've turned this this is what we learned in the first episode sala has turned this into a weird tourist spot where he now is having to send tourists into the temple to earn money to keep this thing going so you were part of some weird pyramid scheme

that sala has concocted and which i totally forgot about i i that we talked about that and that like i thought we were just looking for indy and i think that's what it became it is become that but it's confusing because that is part of it and then we also on the other episode also talked about how michael eisner in a special said that they moved the temple from india that's the narrative we moved the temple from india to disneyland but then on the ride you're just supposed to be in india so some wires got crossed as far as what the official narratives of some of this stuff was now what do you think is going to happen when this ride opens in animal kingdom you think the queue is going to be the same? No.

I think it'll be a whole new, when they've replicated this ride elsewhere, they usually, they have a whole new story and like kind of a new setup. Are you excited for this Indiana Jones attraction coming to Animal Kingdom, Matt? Very excited. I think Dinosaur sucks. I think at a certain time it was excellent, but now you ride through it, it's like they've known for years

they're shutting this shit down. So much just doesn't work. So much is blacked out. It's unfortunate because it was at one time such a fun, innovative attraction, but it's time to go. I do think it's interesting that

how old is this ride almost 30 years old right yeah yeah just about that they're bringing us a 30 year old attraction so i wonder if there's going to be some some updates because obviously technology has changed and there's we do a lot of cool things yeah uh but i don't ride this ride now and think it's outdated i think they do a great job and it's held it you know it's held up yes uh uh i think it's going to be a total they said a totally new story so i think the i think the queue will be way different and i wonder if they keep it sort of like as a museum because you kind of start out in a museum type way and dinosaur so i bet they keep that maybe and do something else with it but yeah

i don't think it'll be like i could be wrong we'll see but yeah i think it's gonna be a totally different story and i think it'll be probably way like how tokyo is like different story but it's kind of the same yeah it's like this will be you know somewhat i think it'll be way different than that i'm guessing just because there's been so much time and why not do something a little bit different. Have you both done Tokyo? Yeah, I have. Yeah.

Jason hasn't. I have not. Oh, Jason, what do you, have you, have you been to Tokyo or no? No, I haven't been. Oh, we got to get Jason there. I know. I say it every time we record. Disney Sea.

It's like when people ask me about Tokyo Disney Sea,ney sea i try to explain like this like i'm a psycho you and i'm sure you guys are as well like sometimes i have dreams about like fantasy theme parks or dreams about fantasy toy stores it's like tokyo disney sea is like you woke up in that dream and it but it's real yes it's unbelievable i can't even explain it to people no i know i yeah i was trying to tell this to my mother the other day and i was like no you don't understand it's like it's a different thing she's like well i think i understand what you're saying and i'm like you don't like i was getting like defensive before she even like pushed back on me and i don't know why but i was like sinbad you'll be reduced to tears on sinbad and it's special because of the song and it's beginning well but it's a ride yes but no ride has ever made me cry

like this and just like yeah it's not it's not quite explainable um the thing also i was thinking about this this queue is like oftentimes we're talking about like oh we wish disney would do a horror night's maze but boy you could do a halloween maze in this line it might not make it might be like break some sort of code for like putting performers in small spaces but this is the ultimate horror nights maze in a lot of ways it's dark it's cool it's twisty it's perfectly like themed like you literally like that like without even the ride you are walking in like the most highly themed maze you've ever been like they've done so they

so even though i'm like disney doesn't other than in china which they have done a little bit of this disney hasn't done any like crazy mazes that's what this is that this is this is perfect for it i wish they would around halloween and i know they won't but i wish around halloween they would just put like look wrap up a couple people as mummies, have them pop out. Jason could be involved. He could dress as a mummy or Brendan Fraser, either one. But I want to get... Oh, demanding coffee.

Yeah. Yeah. I want to get a little more scared even in this queue. And I want to get more use out of it because I think the way that the line has been set up now, people just breeze through this and at least just at least let some young scare actor yell at me while i'm going through it kind of reminds me of the uh the kong in universal yes yes that's true because they did have scare actors and then they stopped that i believe at this point they did i never saw them because i never waited on the real cue but

i sound like a real snob on this thing. You are? Well, no, but that's Scott's role is to be the one who says, I don't care about the lines. I just want to go on the ride. So you're filling a void right now. But I do appreciate a good queue, a good pre-show. Right.

You know, some rides just wouldn't be anything without the pre-show. Yes. You know? Yeah. Well, and it depends i mean ride the place rides are placed in the park pre-show the way everything is set up like there are so many other elements that end up like even taking like a ride from a b to a c or a b to an a if there's certain ways to frame it like i rock and roller coaster even though it's cheesy

and you may not like aerosmith but if it didn't have some of the pre-show elements i don't like the ride as much i think even though that ride is pretty simple i think the pre-show makes the right the pre-show makes the the whole right it's like a wrestling match yes if there's no story it just moves yes if there's no connection to the characters what are we doing here yes now you can with wrestling something if the moves are cool enough i will like it and if the ride is cool enough i will like it but but doesn't it make it better with you will it stick with you forever i don't know you might forget it depends but yes i agree i'm agreeing with you basically yes but like

yeah but rock and roller coaster if rock and roller coaster is an outdoor coaster no theme i'd go on it once and go oh that was really fun if it's not a long line i won't go again but right well because the launch would be the launch would be the thing that carried it without the breed show yes but even if even just the idea that you're in the even the idea that you're in a limo is fun you need the pre-show to set up that you're actually in a limo right it's doing some super stretch a super stretch limb and it's doing some heavy lift it's doing a lot of heavy lifting for a pretty simple cheap ride yes just like it's a regular coaster with just some flats

on the actual ride it's not even that great and it does not hold hold up that's why i'm a little worried about this muppets like that's what i'm saying just a fresh coat of paint might not be enough yes yeah are you going to be going 60 miles per hour and they play rainbow connection well that's what people have said i mean what even moving right along is not a is not a song as fast as some punk song it's not like a germs song or something or fugazi yeah like move in right along like or or whatever the song dr teeth sings but they also have promised that they're going to have a festival with modern pop stars or something. So there's going to be like, I think they are going to have some, you're going to get Meghan Trainor doing a duet with Piggy or something on this ride.

That's what they're teasing, I think. Let me pull up the ride, the pre-show video here. The Sala video? Yes, yes. Yeah. Now, a thing I never realized. Oh, you have the whole thing. I have the whole thing.

Okay. Also, can I say, I don't understand how people get these sometimes. People will go like, oh, here's Captain EO. And I go, well, this doesn't look like it was recorded off a phone. It looks like a master. Yeah. Who got this? Especially the pre-show video for Indiana Jones.

Like who got this? Who stole this? Has Disney arrested them? Did a cast member sneak this home? That's the only way I can imagine it being procured. Jason, were you saying something? No, uh, play the video, because I think the thing I have will make more sense after the video.

So you're seeing Sala outside the Temple of the Forbidden Eye, and he's letting a bunch of people that look like old-timey people onto the ride vehicle, onto the Jeep. And there's a boy that looks like Alfalfa from The Little Rascals. I was going to say, yeah, it looks like Alfalfa. And we talk about Little Rascals, I feel like, on this show a lot, but I've never seen a full episode. But I am smart enough to know that that is clearly Alfalfa. That is an inside joke for all the Little Rascals fans.

I've never noticed it. So the ride goes on, and there's a picture of Sala that looks like he's been caught doing something bad in the car, in the Jeep. He looks like this is the police have found him and he's pantsless in the ride vehicle.

And here he is. He's been caught. It looks like he's taking a number two in the bathroom. Well, thank you for cutting to the chase. It looks like he's taking a shit in the Jeep. It looks like he's taking a number two in the bathroom. Well, thank you for cutting to the chase. It looks like he's taking a shit in the gym. It looks like Bigfoot. It looks like a blurry photo of Bigfoot. Yes. Let me pause it.

The reason I'm showing this even is because there are these pre-show videos that become iconic, like the Soren one. Everybody knows it. They know the lines. They know the characters. It's very well known. But this, I think the placement of it, because it's up high and it's in such a big cavernous room, that some of this stuff doesn't stick with you. That these images don't last with people as much as something like Sauron. I was going to say, to me, I've never seen this, but I clearly have if I've been on the ride multiple times.

Yeah, it's always playing when you're in that room. And I just think it gets lost because there's so much going on. Like, how have I not noticed alfalfa? Like, I should have noticed alfalfa, okay? But the video itself is really great and deserves probably more love than it gets. Well, this is the thing that sticks with me. He's holding a sign that says take heed and then there there there's a a picture of like an adult dweeb like who just keeps he does look clearly he's looking

at the idol and then he becomes a skeleton uh yeah so it looks like uh alfalfa from the little rascals father uh is on the ride and is on this ride with his son uh and he is following directions but alfalfa's lame dweeb father uh is blowing it for everybody by looking in tamara's eyes they're not getting any of the prizes now because alfalfa's dad fucked it up for them the video should end with alfalfa's dad getting beat up um i think the thing that i didn't know i don't know how i never read this is that that is jonathan reese davies in uh the pictures but the voiceover is an actor named bob joles like it's someone else doing a solid impression really why wouldn't he do his own voice that's weird i have no idea but i saw his name mentioned multiple places and he's like a go-to voice actor for disney is it like a michael jackson on the simpson episode where he wouldn't

sing but he would use his regular voice like maybe he wanted to appear but he didn't want to talk i don't know because he was in the opening special or it's like we've heard a couple times now uh stories of people who do the pre-show videos and they do the whole dialogue they do the day but then disney fucks up the audio and they have to go back in and redub it uh and this is like you know these are major shoots so you would imagine they wouldn't mess the audio up like that but we've heard two of these stories where they do all their lines and they have to go back and adr it to match god yes which is a nightmare we've talked about you know harrison

ford is not the voice on the ride no i was hoping that maybe we want to get harrison there's pictures of harrison and calista and the kids uh uh on the ride he knows it exists come on harrison just give him a microphone while he was actually at the ride and say a couple of lines like wasn't that big fun say it real quick you know or when they signed him for the star wars movie and then he also made a deal for indiana jones 5 just say we're going to replace the actor uh and you have to do these 10 lines or whatever well i'm sure it's a lot of money i'm sure it's not uh an issue of can he do it it's how much are they gonna pay yeah i know it's he can do it obviously i don't need to get paid uh i'm just saying they should have done a deal uh when the contracts

were written they should have done the downey jr deal that he just got for doing dr doom where now he's going to go back and he's going to do iron man and all the parks yes that's what they should have done um but maybe they weren't thinking like that back then should have happened on the set of dial of destiny. I watched that last night. I watched Dial of Destiny last night because I hadn't seen it. And I'm like, okay, we're doing the Indiana Jones recording tomorrow.

Let me see if this gives any additional depth or whatever. And the answer is not really. It's fine. I don't know why it was so long because the first few are under two hours and then with last crusade it's like two hours and two minutes and then crystal skull is like two hours and eight minutes and this one was nearly two and a half hours long yeah might have been over might have been pushing three hours and i'm like i don't know why they did that yeah my take is also they got a little cocky in that first section of the movie with that de-aging technology the technology's not like there yet

so you would want to hide it a little bit but oh uh they're shining a flashlight on his de-aged face and you're like i can tell that that he's not that young and his voice is not that young anymore so i'm not sure why they were doing that but oh well um i i maybe just didn't like the passage of time like everyone just looks so old you're saying yeah well i don't like the passage of time in general so i agree with that sala and spoiler alert marion i just everyone's it's a problem then the movie depressed you that's a little depressing it was a little depressing i mean i like uh i like mads mickelson a lot i thought he was a good villain and i i like phoebe waller Sure. I don't know why there was a kid.

I couldn't quite follow why there was also a kid. He was fine. He was a fine actor, but I'm like, I don't, there's a lot going on. I don't think they're going to add the kid to the Indiana Jones adventure. I think that's what you're getting at.

No. All right, let's get to, we're already behind. Okay, let's get to the big thing also that made me want to do this. It's we're already behind. Okay, let's get to the big thing also that made me want to do this. It's a couple of weeks ago. Okay. There's a plank that says, send to Club Obi-Wan.

Yes, that's true. Which is a reference to Temple of Doom. Yes, that's a fun thing. Club Obi-Wan, Temple of Doom, that's a club they go to. And there's a little reference. That's like the type of reference you'll get at the Jock Lindsay bar. Yes. There'll be a sign that says, go the old club obi-wan now if they opened up club obi-wan that's cool i would

love that but they have not they're not going to do that okay so we talked about this a couple a couple weeks ago on our disneyland app episode there is a disagreement about what eyes you can't look into when it comes to mara jason believes that okay so there's a there's a couple there's a little mar when you get in the ride vehicle okay you've loaded uh you go off there's first a little mara head with a blindfold on and then you're presented with three different doors and those are the things that represent the different you know gifts you could be given from mara what you used to move those doors used to move they have not in a very long time that's broken as well that used to protect it would give you the illusion that you were going on a different path even

though it was the same path every time right yeah so those are sort of stuck with they still do different like there's different projection mapping and different effects depending on what the the gift you may receive is but the doors themselves don't move anymore um i was wrong i will admit i was wrong because the new one makes it perfectly clear that it's the big mara you're not supposed to look at so but in your in your defense i don't think this is an uncommon uh misunderstanding i saw a lot of people online say they thought the eyes were the ones before you enter the big door now i think i on a text chain with matt and len asked this question drop i'm name dropping again forgive me but i believe

i don't neither of you actually had a good answer for which eyes you thought was the right eyes. I had no idea what the hell you guys were talking about. You didn't even know what I was talking about. Right. So that, I guess, is another. That's a third category. Some people don't even remember the eyes. Some people don't care.

I think Scott knows the eyes. Maybe Scott, if you were here, would say, what the fuck are you talking about? What eyes? But I saw a lot of people online say that those eyes here let me go let me show you what i'm talking about i'll jog your memory yeah please show me these eyes yeah you got to see the eyes because that's the whole point of the ride is that you're disobeying what mara is saying but i i think it it the new effects make it really clear and i think it's also a joke you can't practically drive the car without looking straight ahead at this giant monolith thing so it's a trick right okay so you

have this mara face that's right before you start the ride and it's got a blindfold on okay and that's just to remind you like don't look into mara's eyes and then the ride starts and then you're oh yes are you there it's sala and this is the maintenance door that you never go down and then here you see the three different doors uh that rotate they don't rotate but they used to uh now i'm defending jason here a lot of people thought that these eyes were the ones not to look into um but you know these eyes are not the eyes you see they open here okay so then obviously you go in the big room and this is the big mara that's the one where you don't look at its eyes yes that that's what i would assume as well uh yes uh but again there's a lot of confusion online or at

least a little uh i did try to reach tony baxter to ask him a question. But there was no response. Damn. Okay. Well, you tried. Yes. I texted season pass podcast host Doug Barnes, who's done maybe are the definitive interviews with Tony Baxter. And I asked him, I said, Doug, what eyes are the right eyes?

And he said, the big Mara eyes are the eyes so that's as close i've gotten to a full confirmation from somebody involved in the project which is not a person involved in project it is somebody who's interviewed a person involved in the project i think this is a version of like uh adding some special effects adding some new technology helps sell the story even more because the projection and the music sting and the the crazy indie with uh trying to close the door with a big vortex thing behind it is right after this okay here's what i'll say also uh i'm not a huge fan of projection i'll ask you guys projection mapping in general scott actually said on the original indiana jones episode uh that he was

not a big fan of like turning the castle into a big present or something you know it's making the castle look like something else with lights um i don't love it they do it at france and they do it in the tower of terror is now a big gingerbread house or something or it's it's like supposed to be a scary hotel i do like it during for tower towers like a gingerbread house i do i mean i don't hate it but i just there's something about it where it's like i wish it was on a building that was less scary like it doesn't feel appropriate it should be scary stuff on tower of terror and then it should be i don't know there's not a big building they could use but i don't know there's something inappropriate about it to me i don't

know i think my bigger problem is that oftentimes i feel like it doesn't look so good and maybe it's because there's too much light but i sometimes hard to make out what it is right like i'm like oh is that genie coming out of a window oh wait no that's hades but they're too blue but is he a window oh no oh no it's stitch never mind but i'll say it about projection mapping on indiana jones is awesome it looks so good and they've done it they've even redone it i feel like in the last 10 years since they started doing this it really looks amazing and i think it's probably because it's dark and they can control the environment. But man, this clip, Mara looks like she's melting.

I think heightening the stuff that's already there is what I really like. Yes, they're not painting a face on Mara with lights. They're just accentuating what's there already. But look at that. That's like liquid is literally coming off. Yes, the effect is effective. Yes, the effect is effective uh yes the effect is effective uh but even more effective way than any projection mapping i've seen it's plussing up the ride as you guys would say it really is yes i feel like this the lightning

effects in this room have been improved over the years have been upgraded over the years yes and i think uh i like that i agree yes the lightning is very cool so on the ride you get to the part where the jeep takes the hard left and you get the big reveal of the whole temple and sometimes the effects aren't working but still this shot of seeing the whole temple is the biggest wow moment i'm with you and even uh the at ats are really cool on rise of the resistance and i was very excited i'm not trying to to shit on it or anything i'm just trying to think of other spectacle rides but this room more than anything in rise of the resistance still gives me the feeling of like oh this is 20 miles long this is i can't tell where i am or how far it goes it's

it's unbelievable and like you said there's so much to look at even the atats you're just looking right there this you're like what am i looking at here where am i going could you kind of see some of the track and you're like what am i what am i in store for here yes and also like you're getting to see an overview of the whole temple and you're going to get to see it from a bunch of different angles which is something we talk about all the time we like to look at rides from different vantage points so you're going to get to see the ride all over you're going to get to explore it really thoroughly which is really fun and satisfying and like the at80s like you do get another view of them from up but man it really feels like you're exploring every part of this place are these flames projection or real flames i don't i don't quite remember or i think it's a mix of it because like when a new jeep pulls

into the actual temple a fighter should shoot out of that like one of the eyes of the skull but a lot of it i think is just you know orange lighting and that's scary goes things on fire i think it can be really effective if triggered right yes i agree uh and it makes a noise too that it's like a hiss i can't even describe it really well i should try to find it somewhere which it's not as scary as the snake and the hiss because that's closer to you but it is still sometimes that like can kind of get me a little bit like a mild jump scare. I'm not saying I'm going to like freak out, but I go, ah,

you know, just like a quick one. Let me ask you this. Uh, as far as the ride system itself, you know, it fucks you up a little bit. It's rough.

Which I like. We, you know, I don't think we've ever discussed it, but I do. Yeah. I'm a, I'm a listener of the show.

I want to feel like I'm in a little bit of danger on these things. Right. Okay. So you agree with me yeah uh yeah i i these ride vehicles are so unique i mean they've used them on the indiana jones rides and dinosaur but they're not using it a ton no uh and it's hard to even imagine like what you would use this for what other kind of rides um like the trackless wi-fi stuff makes sense like there's a lot of applications for that um but this feels like it like it has to be like a a rough jeep ride

it has to be a rickety road unstable terrain and that's the only way you would want to use this if they were ever to do in universal like a jurassic park a new jurassic park and you're in the jeep no, that's true. Because even the boat ride, I mean, that almost makes zero sense. It should be a Jeep. Right, yes. But it is, like, the ride vehicle still feels, like, really unique to me. And, yes, it messes you up a little bit, which is really what you want on some of this stuff um sometimes so so we should talk about

there are different like little variations on the ride like sometimes the car will stall a little bit and make different noises sometimes certain effects will get triggered depending like i saw some like there's a bunch of little things that happen now i think this is smart because sometimes the ride will just break down or if there's another thing happening like a ride vehicle is it's taking a while to empty it so your car gets stuck on a bridge or something but it's hard to tell if it's one of the randomized events happening on the ride or something's wrong because this happens all the time where i go ah we're stuck on this bridge for a while i go maybe that's one of the randomized things is like your car won't start because that's you know they keep hearing the ignition sound effect which i think it took me a couple of years to even realize that was fake i like that's just a sound effect obviously there's not it's not a real

right a real car come on turning over i just didn't think i didn't it's not a real card turning over. I just didn't think, it's not that I thought that. It's just I never thought about it. Sure. Yeah. You were like, oh, that must be. It is a great effect to buy time if there's a delay. Like, oh, your car stalled out. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying where it's like I still to this day, I'm not sure what is like, what is an effect when it's just not working? What is an effect that's randomized and when is it like oh shit like somebody had a medical emergency at the front of the ride and you're stuck now but i'm like oh wow they really randomized this thing this is awesome i'm getting a totally unique ride now because of like i don't know i still don't know and i can't find like a definitive list of all the different options you have when it comes to this stuff like i think sometimes maybe the snake doesn't like hiss at you but usually it does um but again this would all be answered this will be answered in indiana jones

three with tony baxter one of these they'll get tony for that one we'll have to get tony for for one of these things um okay let me let me get to the new stuff so i got very excited because and we've talked about this before tokyo disney has their own indiana jones and they have stuff in probably the most criticized section of our disneyland version there's a room at the end with the blow darts or whatever you would call it. It's kind of just painted like skeleton men on the wall. And it really feels sort of unspectacular, especially after what you've just seen. And yeah, and after that comes the ball and that's the big amazing thing at the end. But you're still like, ah, this room feels like it'd be better.

It is better in Disney, in Disneyland, in Paris, I was going to say Tokyo. So they said- Don't get me started on the Paris Indiana Jones ride. Holy shit. Spoiler. Sucks. Next. It's just an outdoor coaster, isn't it? Yes, it's horrible. Yes.

Over a year ago at this point, they were like, oh my god, they added stuff to Disneyland Indiana Jones. I was like, holy shit. Because what happens in Tokyo is there's a section where you turn around a corner and there's nothing there in the Disneyland version. But in Tokyo, a fireball shoots out of like some sort of idol's mouth at you

using a very similar effect to what they do on Big Thunder now when there's a big dynamite explosion on the last lift hill. So I was like, like holy shit they're doing it they're fixing the dead space so i don't know if you guys have not been on this since they fixed it so when they say fixed it i don't know i don't think it's fixed that's what i'm saying right they added some well they got rid of the projection of a branch with rats on it

yes which we call you called out specifically on our first episode, is that they used to do a thing with, there was a shadow of a branch and a rat was running on it, and it would jump off the branch, and that was supposed to make you think, oh, there's a bunch of rats in our car now. I don't know what that was. I didn't know what that was supposed to be until,

maybe Jason told me They've gotten rid of it Which is good Is a plus up I will say And they've added Okay This is what they've added

They've added some weird Like kind of electricity Now I don't know what that's Supposed to be In the narrative of the ride Those are like Like lightning demons

Or spirits Or something I mean what is a lightning demon it's a demon made of lightning fair enough i mean i guess that's pretty self-explanatory actually now that i think now that i asked the question uh so then you turn a corner and like okay that's fine i don't hate that i'm not mad at that yeah and then this is the so this is the part i'm like oh this is new this is new and they made like basically a little like doorway and there's two flame like i don't know what you call them you know torches torches thank you and speaking back to when matt said no screens there is a screen here that basically just shows like rocks collapsing.

And then you turn the corner into the room I just criticized. And I will say kind of a letdown. Yeah, a little cheap looking. Kind of cheap looking. I get what they're going for, but I don't know that it's so much better than the rat. Yeah. You know? I mean, I'm not mad that it's so much better than the rat. Yeah. You know? I mean, I'm not mad that I said it.

I'm not mad the rat is gone, but it's a little bit underwhelming considering what you know you could get in Tokyo. And I know that's a common thing to talk about is, well, man, you should see what we get in Tokyo. But, yeah, so that's there. I'm not mad at it, but it is adding a screen to indiana jones which kind

of taints it a little bit doesn't it yeah it's like why do we need to add a screen there it almost like dates it in a way because like so many times when you see things with screens it dates it in the era that it was made and indiana jones is so timeless because it's big sets i feel like that thing isn't going to last long. A lot of the stuff in like haunted mansion where it's like the projections, it takes me out of it. It's like you said, it's no longer timeless.

It feels like, like you said, the year it was introduced. Yes. And I'm like, Oh, that's like, I,

it all, it almost been like maybe a little sad. I was like, Oh, don't remind me that this has to be like tied to an era right now I may I'm sure I don't know well they'll they'll maybe upgrade things but I could see this in 10 years if they never give it another budget that screen is gonna look really weird and I hate to harp on it it's such a short thing but it did it tainted our

beloved Indiana Jones with a little screen i don't know jason you feel any feel anything about this you haven't been on it so you haven't seen the screen firsthand to feel the sadness that i felt yeah i you know i like the blow dart room i think the audio uh the audio and the air puffs i works for me i think it's a thing in these kinds of adventure movies that it's like, oh, it's cool to see that even if it is a cheaper version. So you're a blow dart room defender. I'm a blow dart room defender,

but I understand what you're saying about screens. I think I like the lightning spirits, even though they're kind of like, I'm not quite sure what that is. The lightning demons yeah yeah your words not mine i like the lightning demons more than i like the door collapsing sure um i again i don't hate you know what's funny though it makes it made me reevaluate the the blow the blow dart room because i was like i guess at the end of the day i'd rather

have some like day glow looking like a miniature golf course style skeletons on a wall than a screen you know i'm saying like it made me reevaluate on some level the blow dart room and i go well this is i'd rather maybe have this than some screens on here unless the screens are really fantastic so i don't know i don't think you're ever going to be able to do the full effect that i want from tokyo but i don't know i'm sure they know the imaginators know that section needed some something and they're doing their best maybe they got a modest budget and maybe they'll they'll continue to do stuff as the years roll on and maybe if indiana jones six if harrison can get out of bed and do another indiana jones

we can get some more more do you think one i you know what i want three more oh come on now we're we're pushing it i want him to be 90 oh my god i want it to be mostly cgi i want it to be replacing a young actor's face with harrison ford's face i do want to ask this ending scene yes i get a little confused trying to imagine the space of this scene what do you mean the ball the ball rolling the ball rolling and then he's standing in the rubble of the ball rolling so what exactly is it trying to convey what the ball rolling is what an illusion huh such a great job at that it's amazing it's amazing and we talked on the first one about how like your jeep's not the balls the walls are like moving it's a big part of it but you go down do you like find a tunnel

or an exit and then you're looking back at where the ball shattered a wall you know i think i'm saying i think i'm overthinking this because it reads okay i know what you're saying i know what you're saying you're saying does your jeep go in a little secret hole and then turn a corner and see the ball crash? Are you supposed to have gone underground and then you're seeing the aftermath of the ball smashing through the earth or something? I think so. And if that's the general what you're supposed to take away, fine.

Maybe I'm overthinking it. I think you're probably supposed to be like, oh, my God, right at the last second, you found a little part of the hill. Your car drives through it. And then the car takes a right. But maybe in like the imagination, you're just supposed to have turned the car around to see what happened right indy's there with the ball that's broken and he has not been killed he's fine and that's like i think the ride there's just no way to do it because you can't like go down turn around completely and see a broken ball i think it's just logistically there's just no way to do that

right yeah okay i mean this is generally what i thought but the more i thought about it as i was watching these videos i was like am i missing something am i missing like like in the way i was looking at the wrong eyes you know yeah or it's something like kind of headier where it's like you do get crushed by the ball and you die and then you're like in purgatory or heaven yeah or you're had you're in heaven and you imagine that you got out safely and that indiana jones is there and then you leave i think that's a little too deep i don't i don't know if that's it i think that's probably a little too deep but you know a great art is open to interpretation. Sure. I guess another thing, we're well past the snake room at this point,

but watching it all over the years, in the snake room, he says, like, snakes, you guys are on your own. That's not his line. He's supposed to say snakes. Why did it have to be snakes? Now, at the end, he says, one of his alt lines is, like, tourists. Why did it have to be snakes now the end he says one of his alt lines

is like tourists why did it have to be tourists these are so did we say this in the first episode these are some of the shittiest line reads i've ever heard he goes snakes you guys are on your own you're like that's the best take they got from an actor like maybe it was a one taker you never know i you he only would do one take maybe i don't know maybe they had a tight budget yeah maybe it's the take that survived if they've had so many errors with the audio where's the but where's the urgency indiana jones is in a room full of snakes he's trying to get all these tourists the indy's cool he's like but he goes like he would be like great like snakes ah you guys are on your own you would be like a little more like that

i think i didn't bring up on the first episode where is he where are we hearing him saying this from is he just like stuck in the temple somewhere maybe he's got a walkie-talkie system is there a pa is there a pa system in the temple maybe that sala set up and he's like he's just giving you directions you know snakes you guys also not very heroic you got a bunch of dumb tourists in a car they're there because of indiana jones and sala and he's going hey my hands are clean you guys get the fuck out it's a snake come on i'm just saying he i know he's afraid of him and he's going hey my hands are clean you guys get the fuck i i had nothing to do it's a snake come on i'm just saying he i know he's afraid of him but he's a he's generally a hero that would even step up i feel like to help a bunch of dummies alfalfa and his father get out

of a bad situation so i don't i feel like it's a little odd character also for him to say that that is also very funny in the new indiana jones where they encounter eels that are like snakes and i'm like how what is the dry erase board where they were doing like okay there's no snakes yet but the eels could come in the diving sea eels you looks like you guys are on your own eels i hate eels that is like a knockoff indiana jones but you think if the movie was a hit they would have replaced this big snake with a big eel maybe it depends on how much money the movie made and that would have been a big change coming is that the big snake is going to be a big eel well maybe in the animal kingdom version oh very true yes it could be a big it could be all based on the last indiana jones it could be okay you open up you open up in the ride let's let's brainstorm this real quick to end this episode you you start in indiana jones sad old man apartment just like in the in the new movie and then you go then you get a mission from

archimedes himself okay but i was like gonna say maybe slow down and you go through his mail and see if you get a social security check first and then you learn about all the people in his life who have passed away and then it's depressing oh man that's a depressing way to start the ride it is a depressed but it is accurate to the film okay jones i think look indiana jones meets the dinosaurs was the way to go and i don't think they're going to do it indiana jones fighting dinosaurs back in time was the way to go and it would work great for the the overlay of dinosaurs they could have kept some of those animatronics. That's what I'm saying. I'm smart.

I'm sure. Budget wise. But yeah, they'll probably. Indiana Jones is going to find. I don't know. What does he find in the movie? What's the artifact? He should find.

The dial. He finds. Oh, the dial. He finds the dial of destiny. And they travel back in time to the Battle of Syracuse on the island of Sicily. You were really paying attention to this. Yeah, well, he just watched it yesterday. That's true.

Yeah, I watched it like 12 hours ago. I watched it like 15 hours ago. I think more of a Temple of Doom would be my way to go for the new indie. I'm a big Temple of Doom guy. This kind of gives me temple of doom vibes though a little bit yeah it does there's for sure references to it but i'm like like even scary yeah because it's like it's similar to like the scary climax of uh temple of doom it's a lot of fire it's a lot of scary stuff uh but it's less it's less horrific than temple of doom sure disney's not

gonna do that i know they're not gonna pull like a heart out of a man that's i don't know if that's necessary it's not necessary traction yeah kids do go on this traction but it is scary so if you're 13 i think you're ready to see a man get his heart pulled out of his chest that's just that's a look at that's coming from a father these kids are to go on the Encanto attraction and then they're going to walk half a block to watch a heart be pulled out of an animatronic. But then they could sell hearts in the gift shop, which by the way, the gift shop, I don't even consider a gift shop because it's not attached. Well, that is a thing. Yes, that's a good point. Yes. attached well that is a thing yes that's a good point yes and and uh the gift shop in the similar

way to haunted mansion but the way haunted mansion was out here was like the gift shop is far away from the ride which i'll be honest it is nice to have that difference sometimes because it does feel i don't know i'm torn there's sometimes it's nice to get emptied into the gift shop and exit into the gift shop but i do like how it feels like it's its. There's sometimes it's nice to get emptied into the gift shop and exit into the gift shop, but I do like how it feels like it's its own thing. And then if you want to get some indie stuff, it's across the way. I went to impulse buy something.

So you, you wish there was a full gift. Well, you bought a couple of things. That's true. Yeah. You know, maybe I would buy a whip,

you know, something. Oh man. How many more hats would they sell if it was right off the ride so you're saying that maybe you're like you're you're like so jacked up after the ride yeah it wears off by the time you walk across the way avoided death by you know we almost got slaughtered by this rolling giant ball we're on this high but then by the time we get out of there maybe we don't even see that gift shop across the street right you don't even know it's there and you've heard the glenn miller music and now you're so calm and relaxed because that's the place i

want to take a nap maybe you have a you have a rush to get on another ride yeah after you walked a half a mile back to adventureland yeah if you're forced to go through that gift shop, I think Disney is just sleeping on sales. You're right, it's sleeping on sales, but don't you think it would take a little of the class? It feels like a classy ride because it doesn't have the gift shop right there. Well, but if you theme it to like,

Sala is trying to make a buck. Hmm. You're saying, yes. It looks a little haphazard, you know. Yeah, and they sell a couple whips. Do they sell a whip? Can you get a whip in the park with a child? You used to be able to.

I'm not sure if you do. You used to be able to 100%. You can buy a crystal skull. Not crystal head vodka, a crystal skull from Crystal Skull. And it's like hundreds of dollars. You can buy like the artifacts from each movie I don't know if they

have a dial yet if they do I was just there I should have checked to see if we could get a dial I want a dial I'll keep you posted

I'll be there in two weeks okay let us know how many dials they have and if the dials are selling well because I suspect

the dials aren't moving fast but I think I would keep the I would keep the gift shop away. That's my opinion. Okay, fair, fair. Like Haunted Mansion, of course, I don't know if it'll be open by the time you're there.

Haunted Mansion has built a separate house right outside the exit. And I know some people are mad at the scale of it. I have yet to determine if I think that's right or not. But that feels okay to me because it's close to the exit but it's not in the ride okay so you're preserving some of the classiness of the ride but there are things i mean look rock and roller coaster you exit back when you could buy aerosmith merch you exit right into the concert you're buying your aerosmith merch right there

i had some drumsticks yeah i mean i got, I have a G-Force record producer. There you go. Yes, I have it just on the other side of the table, too. So I am pro gift shop at Rock and Roll Coaster, anti at Indiana Jones. Anyway, there's so much. Indiana Jones is amazing. I hope every seven years we come back and talk about it

because it deserves it um matt cardona you have survived podcast the ride oh man thank you so much guys exit through the gift shop now plug away now is this gift shop attached or is it across the street uh since it's well since it's your gift shop I guess you can choose So I guess it's attached Okay That's what you want Whatever the guest prefers Right Guys

Follow me on social media At the Matt Cardona If you like wrestling figures Collectibles I also have a podcast The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast And we sell our own figures Over at collectmajor.com

And if you see me At Disneyland In a couple weeks You're allowed to say hi, but I'm on the clock with that VIP tour, so don't chit-chat too long. You know what I'm saying? You've got to make it quick.

Yeah. Can I real quick? I've said this before. I think that people want Jay Leno, Kevin Eubanks wrestling figures. I truly in my heart believe that. And I think you should at least- I i think you should love it if you can get him to sign with uh with major i'm down okay send me some paperwork and i'll see his look he's got

the garage out here we need to we need to try to interview him one of these days and i would love because because jay with the blue that blue t-shirt and then kevin eubanks so his band leader had this cut off sleeves he was he looked good he can interfere to the match I'm not against

Jay has to be first I know obviously Jay is the bigger name but Kevin was such a part of that match the Hogan D&P match sign me up

I think a two pack with Jay and Kevin is what I want I want a Michael Eisner we need a Michael Eisner. We need a Michael Eisner figure.

Oh. We need to say that for years. Come on. Give us something. Somebody made us a custom Michael Eisner doll that I have in the closet over here. Oh, my God. But we need official. And look, we've tried with Michael Eisner on the show, too. Yeah.

But he needs to sign with you guys as well. I would love that. Matt, if you move fast, you might be able to beat AEW and get the Rizzler, AJ, and Big Justice. I will say they have left me on

red. I slid into the DMs. Left on red. So I tried, guys. That's like Tony Baxter with me i tried like what that's what knots berry farm is doing to me too oh no shit so you feel my pain that's oh i bet jay if we can i bet we can get jay we can get jay to sign on let's do it let's do it okay all right i'll work on it all right uh as for us we're on all the socials podcast the ride uh go to patreon. As for us, we're on all the socials, Podcast the Ride. Go to patreon.com for bonus episodes on a variety of topics. We just watched a weird Thanksgiving parade.

That's half Macy's Day parade, half a weird parade about Goofy where he's also a dinosaur and he golfs. It's a very strange parade. But anyway, Podcast the Ride at Patreon. That's not the website, but you understand what I'm saying. Jason, anything else? No, the website is patreon.com slash podcast the ride. I'm a Patreon member.

Thank you. A long time. A long time. Even though I think you've texted me like, what are these episode topics? I don't. And I was like, well, you don't have to subscribe. I'm not offended. And you're like, no, I'm going to stay subscribed.

And I go, okay, all right. Like, why are you guys talking so much about Jay Leno? But anyway, again, you can cancel anytime. I won't. Okay, thank you. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gairdner, Brett Boehm, Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey.

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