Podcast: The Ride - "it's a small world" Holiday

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

It's the last main feed PTR of 2024! Snuggle by the fire as freshly-returned host Scott Gairdner tells tales of movie directing and rubbing elbows with a hidden aquatic star. We also find spare minut...es and seconds to talk about the Small World Holiday overlay. Happy Holidays! "Santa's Secret" episode is up at: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide  FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Forever Dog. Warning, the following podcast may contain an invisible underwater movie legend, walnut confusion, near future magic key restriction innovations, and more sticky taffer bottle talk. All this plus it's a small world holiday. Ho, ho, ho, it's podcast the ride holiday so Welcome to Podcast the Ride, a theme park podcast who loves to celebrate a holiday icon that's given us so much over the years, Eisner Claus. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan.
Starting point is 00:00:58 I like that. I like Eisner Claus. Just the man or the idea? Just the concept. The concept? I think, yeah. Thank you for saying that. I think he's somebody who you look forward to, or we used to look forward to what he would give us every year. When he would come down the chimney, what would it be? Would it be a new parade?
Starting point is 00:01:14 Would it be something that made any sense? Probably not. But that's what was great about it. But in 1997, he was like, let's throw up some Christmas lights. Of course. That's what I'm saying. Scott Gidner is also here. Oh, Jesus. No, did you see him? No, I didn't see him. I course. That's what I'm saying. Scott Gidner is also here. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:01:25 No, did you see him? No, I didn't see him. I haven't looked right this whole 40 minutes. You forgot I even am part of this. Well, guess what I am? And here's what I have to say to that. Hello, ho, ho. Oh, that's really good.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Really good, yeah. Ties it together. Boy, you're right. You know, when you first said it, I thought it was a stretch. And then once together. Boy, you're right. You know, when you first said it, I thought it was a stretch. And then once you said it, you're right. He had the biggest sack of goodies every year of the Disney decade, or at least the part of it that we made it through. You know, and as the years go on, like, all right, sure,
Starting point is 00:01:59 there was my childhood bike or my K'nex set or the various things that meant a lot to me growing up as christmas but like today as an adult i still benefit from the toys he gave me you know the swan and dolphin hotels and the connecting michael graves causeway uh the the norway expansion of epcot um many many wonderful appearances and great skits on the magical world of Disney. You know what? I have to say, I do think Eisner Claus has done more for me, all told, than Santa Claus ever did. I agree, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And your logicking of what I just said is actually the reason I decided to go ahead with saying it. Because I went, no, it's true. You like saw the logic at the end of the tunnel. Yes, right. I thought of the phrase Eisnerner clause said maybe that's something maybe you can say that i don't know if he sold the property but he definitely at least lived at a place way cooler than the north pole oh right that incredible malibu compound that combined a bunch of other comp as far as i know there's just one little dopey village up at the North Pole.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I don't think Santa bought a bunch of properties from adjoining Christmas millionaires. No. I don't think there's a lot of Christmas millionaires that live at the North Pole. I don't think. That's a pretty specific area. Yes. Well, the thing is, as I will be getting into, I've been very busy lately. I'm very happy to be back.
Starting point is 00:03:27 But with just the pitch that my life has been at lately, big, big regret. I have yet to dive into the full Christmas universe that exists in the feature film Red 1. Oh, right. So when I bring up adjoining characters who would exist alongside Santaanta claus i don't know like that that mythology has now been defined we might red one might have taught us about santa claus's neighbors and i you know because i've been so busy like a fool i haven't gotten to experience who his neighbors are yeah well jason and i were both there opening night at red one but i just don't want there's so much to talk about today. We were at the premiere.
Starting point is 00:04:06 We walked the red carpet. And then we went to a couple of local cinemas. The same night, yeah. Same night. We were standing in the back, nodding. Right. We were not involved in the movie. We weren't in the movie. But you did the tour that the filmmaker would do
Starting point is 00:04:19 on opening night. And yours was not the satisfaction of having made the film. Yours is the satisfaction of watching a new audience greet this wonderful film and throw all their joy at the screen. Can I ask, what's the name of the rock Gil Gadot Netflix movie?
Starting point is 00:04:38 Oh, this is very confusing. I believe that is Red Notice. That's Red Notice. Yeah. Okay. And then there's other, because Red Notice, which as we know,
Starting point is 00:04:48 at least at the time, was the most watched feature film ever made by anyone anywhere. But then that record was beaten by another Netflix movie with a color in it, which I think was The Gray Man. That's a Russo Brothers gray man,
Starting point is 00:05:00 I think. Yeah. Is that a Tom Holland movie? That's Chris Evans? Or is that Tom Holland? No. No, Cherry is Tom Holland. Cherry is tom cherry is tom that's kind of it's it's a cherry is red so it's close but it's not exactly cut from the same it's an apple uh cherry on apple okay it's kind of this that's kind of part of the fruit of verse right but uh gray man netflix is all about the color verse they did red notice
Starting point is 00:05:23 the biggest movie ever made then gray man the biggest movie ever made. Then Gray Man, the biggest movie ever made. But now Amazon has made Red One the biggest movie ever made. Right. So, I mean, you got to really stay on top of these charts. Right. It's a lot. It's a lot to... I'm just glad you guys were there to support seeing it time after time.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Did you like... The opening night's enough to pack in. Assuming that you stayed up until 4 a.m., did you guys fit in six viewings in the first night? Six, yeah. Great, great. Well, congratulations. Thank you for supporting art, for supporting cinema.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yeah, of course. And just to be, also to be super clear, Dwayne Johnson's character in this is Callum Drift. So I assume that- Callum or Calum? Can I just guess? Callum. Well, you just told me that you weren't dressed as Callum Drift because you would have known that.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So you must have been dressed as Jack O'Malley, which is Chris Evans' character. And Jason, there's something telling me that your costume was Gryla, that you were Kiernan Shipka's character Gryla. Oh, yeah. I knew it. I was for sure a gender swap. I can always Astrological signs And I can always tell Who's a Gryla
Starting point is 00:06:27 And you're definitely The Gryla of the group He's the part of the Gryhive They call it Yeah No You know
Starting point is 00:06:35 I think it's a shame AMC theaters Have been complaining About the Gryhive Getting a little too Rowdy at the screenings Which I think is wrong You want people
Starting point is 00:06:43 To be engaged You want people Yeah of course Sing Are they so wicked you want people to be engaged you want people of course uh sing are they so wicked they want you to sing along and then here they want you to be rowdy at the red one screenings yeah yeah for whatever reason one of the screenings we went to we were the only people there and there's no real song associated with it that i've delved into yet uh so i just started singing the Unfrosted song. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Because I'm like, oh, there's no song. Sweet. I want to sing along to something during the movie. Give me that sweet morning heat. Yeah. Every single day of the week. I'm so glad that in taking up space in my brain, me now as a parent of two.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Holding space, would you say? Holding space. Yeah. I had a feeling that we were not going to make it 10 minutes into this episode of that talking about holding space oh and it's going to be so timely by the time this one comes it we it's up to us to keep the concept of holding space alive no matter how many weeks have passed yeah you might say i've heard that people i i work in serial media and I hear that people have been holding space
Starting point is 00:07:47 with the lyrics of Sweet Morning Heat and really, really feeling that and that power in that. And I think that's beautiful. Yeah. Really beautiful.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And I think if you told that to Jerry Seinfeld, he would tear up and say, that's what I wanted. And then Jim Gaffigan would weirdly hold his finger. They're going on tour again. I saw Jimmy Fallon a couple nights ago. They're going on tour again.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I saw Jimmy Fallon a couple nights ago. Who is going on tour? Jim and Jerry. So they're going to be able to hold fingers. Oh, great. I hope that's what it is. I hope it's mostly them weeping. Do we need to explain what any of this is?
Starting point is 00:08:18 I don't know. Maybe it's an if you know, then you do, and if you don't, you don't. If you don't, you've turned this episode off by now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, look, I'm so happy to be back and and bullshitting with y'all this is sort of now this as you're hearing this i think if i have the timeline correct the listener has heard at least one episode with me but this is in in our chronology in our timeline this is the first one
Starting point is 00:08:42 we've recorded together in several months uh so it's kind of my official homecoming right uh in a way um that feels very pompous to be declaring for myself welcome me back guys i i believe i'm waiting for a welcome back i don't we're gonna get adults i was like i'm not sure how to do if what's this is the big hello because then there's also an episode that people have voted on on the patreon that's your rebuttal and i was like is that going to be more of the episode we go welcome back what do you think what did we how are you happy with what we did like there's gonna be you're gonna have to go to the behind the paywall to maybe see exactly your thoughts but then i wasn't sure it's hard to figure this out we're still in this weird multiverse this weird timeline situation here yes it'll be settled well i think what it is
Starting point is 00:09:25 is this is the well it's it's it's the main feed return although again you've maybe heard oh boy no i think i've heard you by now yeah i think so but i didn't i deferred i didn't talk about it that's right so i'm talking yeah yeah we're talking about it look the point is say welcome back i'm waiting back to the show thank you dad oh boy this is more confusing than trying to figure out a security detail for santa claus himself aka red one yes welcome back now we know how hard grila's got it the audience is yeah the audience is now wondering why we haven't welcomed you back on any other episodes sure yeah uh i well i don't know okay look we'll get this we'll get this a lot more straightened out not that it'll be fully straightened out because i still don't know if
Starting point is 00:10:07 i'm like fully back i mean you might still hear ones without me it's gonna be i'm still busy with things but i'm gonna i'm doing as many as i can and i'm happy to be here for a little holiday homecoming this is how i i hoped that it would work out is that like for the the uh this is the last episode of the this is the last main feed of the year yes okay okay well wonderful sure uh well then just like very Brady Christmas right uh this is the time for the family to be back in one place that's right and to celebrate the great things that have happened uh uh in in the time that we were apart which before I get into anything that I've been doing, let me say for the first time on mic, congratulations, Jason, on your engagement.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Oh, thank you. I don't know how much you've acknowledged it on the show, but I have not acknowledged it in a way that counts, which is in recorded media. In person and in texts, that don't count for shit. But here I am on microphone saying congratulations, Jason and Jane. I haven't congratulated him on mic. Well, well. So you've beaten me to it. I'm waiting around to be welcomed back to the James. I haven't congratulated him on mic. Well, well.
Starting point is 00:11:05 So you beat me to it. I'm waiting around to be welcomed back to them. I haven't done it either. He's not getting congratulated. Let's make all this right. Congrats, Jason. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Thank you very much. Thank you both. Yeah, no, it was nice to see and a fun surprise during my little sojourn. And I just want to say with that that I wish you two
Starting point is 00:11:23 a very happy future that is full of Amazoning and prone bone and inflatable stuff with popping if that's what you want, but only if that's what you want. And mainly that you can be thrown around as if by one of the X-Men as much as you desire. By my very own buff. He's done a lot of homework here. Yes, I've shown my cards. I've listened to a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You did drop a lot in the last six weeks. Now that he says it all, Scott says it all at once. Yeah. I mean, one of those I was still there for. Yes, that's true. This I will explain. If you didn't understand the wicked stuff we were saying, sorry, look it up and hold space with it.
Starting point is 00:12:07 This I will say some of what I just referred to is second gate stuff. A lot of it was. But imagine me not being on these episodes, just like kind of driving around and then like hearing bits and pieces that just make me like, my eyes just like go wide.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I'm making a lot of keenan thompson faces as jason reveals well again i don't it's just awareness of things that doesn't mean anything but but like certainly dropping uh you know something i think we face a lot mike and i that that we face a lot is that jason will say something and we don't know what he's talking about yes and then in the comments a lot of people will jump in and say that's a very famous thing i know what he's talking about. And then in the comments, a lot of people will jump in and say, that's a very famous thing. I know what he's talking about. It was heartening for me to hear as he's talking about Amazoning and prone bone,
Starting point is 00:12:50 that you were in a group with Anthony Gio and Zach Greeno and then nobody knows about Amazoning and prone bone, which maybe that says more about us and us not being, to quote Jason, in touch with ourselves as sexual beings. Right. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I'm just impressed that you can throw, I'm impressed you can throw us these curveballs seven years into doing the show and then like 15 years of knowing you. And I've never heard you talk about Amazon position before. So I'm just impressed. And in this context for the non-Main Feed listeners, this was, it was initially brought up in reference
Starting point is 00:13:19 to what a parade float of Goofy was doing. Well, Goofy. Right, the Goofasaurus. The Goofasaurus looking a little weird with it. From the world according to Goofy Par doing. Well, Goofy. Right, the Goofasaurus. The Goofasaurus looking a little weird with it. From the world according to Goofy Parade, which we will have to, I think we're not going to do it soon, but we didn't pay enough attention even to that parade.
Starting point is 00:13:33 So I think down the line, maybe we do the same sort of setup and just watch the parade. I don't know. The full world according to Goofy Parade. But this was, so I will say, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:44 this is a little chance to address some of what happened while i was gone that that episode uh uh main feed folks you're missing out because the real the good shit has all i feel like in general a lot of the best shit is on the second gate and that was an episode there with geo and zach that made me jealous because when i realized like wait a minute you're backing into the world according to Goofy. Yeah. I'm not there. I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:07 There certainly needs to be more talk. You got to the goofball, the big golf ball, Goofy hybrid, and I didn't get to be a part of it. You made me jealous. See, that's what I was afraid of happening. Well, you said,
Starting point is 00:14:20 he did tell us we wouldn't get in trouble if you did something big. Yeah. No, I said do big things while I'm gone. Even if it means that it never it can never come up again, which is why it kills me that you took care of Mike's credit card points while I was gone. But if that means that there will be no more points talk in the future, it tears me up inside. So, yeah, I mean, we'll we'll address this probably on the actual club three um oh there's gonna be that's the that's the there's a lot to talk about
Starting point is 00:14:53 of what there is to talk about in the three of us yes i well oh god will that have come out by now will i say what i'm about to say then or now i know how to do points too i know what i need to do now i knew you don't mean also you mean the episode points points to mike's credit card points episode two okay i now know what i have to do and a couple days ago it really dawned on me and i kind of put it together it's not going to be. I need a lot of time to invest in this, but I know how to do it. Are you mean? Here I am waiting.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I know. It's not going to be tomorrow. With bated breath for points. It's not going to be tomorrow. Are you going to dissect the paternal grandparents that I would call Graham, Graham, and Grandpop since you spent that one dissecting my mom and pop-pop? Or is that another episode?
Starting point is 00:15:44 Wait a minute. What you're saying doesn't sound familiar to me at all. So it might have been one that i am pretty sure jason is referring to a second gate episode that has not come out yet oh okay where i question him on his pronunciation we all go there was a lot of interrogating jason's when you were gone. Well, look at that. Let the record show this happens when I'm not on the show. Lest anybody think that all of the Jason interrogation is Scott driven. Look at that. Yeah, that episode actually will have come out by now.
Starting point is 00:16:18 So the listeners will have heard about your grandma and grandpa's barrel full of walnuts. Yeah. That you would go into and heat up and grandpa's barrel full of walnuts. Yeah. That you would go into and heat up and have a warm walnut. Heat up? What are you making up stuff? We've never heat them up. We just crack them. But they were warm.
Starting point is 00:16:34 You mentioned warm walnuts on the episode. Well, he was talking about the warm walnuts position. Now, where does that work? Where do the legs go for that one? That's one of those ones that people post the images on Twitter. The position of the day, the yellow and pink creatures. You think, you think Mike and I are following position of the day Twitters? Position, you have, what's the account?
Starting point is 00:16:57 Position of the day. I think it's a website. I don't know. People post these funny. Now you don't know what it is. These funny graphics. What's this Twitter? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I think it's a website. A lot of what we stumble into with these things, I feel, is that you are just on different parts of not just the internet, but of Twitter slash X slash horrible place than we are. That's ultimately what. And you know what? We're the dorks.
Starting point is 00:17:22 We're the ones not experiencing sexual being as we should be. I shouldn't have done the Google search I just Googled. Are they illustrations? No, it's like real people. Oh. I don't need to look at the point. You didn't look at warm walnuts, did you?
Starting point is 00:17:34 Because I made that one up. Yeah, no, I think that's made up. We discussed warm walnuts, Jason, and the listeners have heard warm walnuts by now. It's a barrel full of walnuts With crackers and wet Walnuts are the sundae topping Maybe I'm wrong It was either wet or warm I can't remember what it was but it led to you talking
Starting point is 00:17:54 About your grandparents barrel full of walnuts Yeah that's all I know A wonderful memory And the walnut was either warm Or soaking wet How did I go on without getting to be part of the barrel full of walnuts conversation? Thank God.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Please celebrate me home. Back to the walnut talk, please. Well, I got a lot to catch up on. And you're right that some of this will, basically, I was gonna come into this and consider this kind of the Scott return episode and do a little bit of response to some of the things that happened in, I guess, what we'll call the Scott free era as you did. I was going to drop a few, just a few sparing thoughts on the Scott free era lo and behold the great folks over at club three the vip subscribers have voted for me to do an entire a full episode response to the entire scott free era uh so that's some of what
Starting point is 00:18:53 you've just been alluding to so if you want to get detailed granular episode by episode coverage of what i missed uh head to club three which is patreon.com slash podcast the ride i will i will i will leave this uh uh this thought and critique out of that one and say now after the run that we just came out of this is all right this is this i this is something i think we have to figure out and i think this is this is non-negotiable as far as i'm concerned this this thing because this happened, look, it's happening with me here too. In so many of these episodes,
Starting point is 00:19:30 we end up in these like inceptions of, now you may have heard of, about this from the past. You may have already been hearing about this if it is in fact the future, but divide that by four and maybe you haven't heard us talk about this. We've got to get this figured out, guys. I agree. We cannot be
Starting point is 00:19:46 tossing these Nolan-isms to the audience left. I think audiences of things understand that content is recorded out of order. In Friends, the friends don't all turn to the camera and say, this was actually recorded
Starting point is 00:20:02 three months ago. Well, that is true. It's a magic trick, you see. But I love hearing those behind-the-scenes tales. That's your note about friends. You want more. Sure, I see how the characters are getting together, but how is the sausage made? I say do a reunion special every year.
Starting point is 00:20:22 But it's going to get sadder and sadder, my friend. It is going to get sadder and sadder, my friend. It is going to get sadder and sadder, unfortunately. Anyways, that's just one thought. There will be other thoughts forthcoming. And now I get to kind of luxuriate in it. Now I get to
Starting point is 00:20:37 relax and take my time. But I will ask this at the top. How do you feel if this is, in fact, the end of the Scott Free era? How does it feel? How did it feel? Were you dreading this today? Taskmaster Scott being...
Starting point is 00:20:52 Do we have to be both back on topic? I mean, it was an interesting experiment. It was an interesting thing to do. Sure. That's good. Scott Free, I didn't realize, was Ridley Scott's production company. Oh, yes. That occurred to me.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah. I didn't realize before that branding. So you didn't get any shirts made. So I did not. No. I did see Gladiator 2, though. What'd you think? It was a good book.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Fine. Sure. That sounds like a good review. Yeah, you know. Pretty good. Some good stuff. Denzel's great. You know.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I just saw Gladiator 1, something I neglected to do my whole life. So that's the kind of thrilling content that can be coming your way. Reviews of 25-year-old movies. So, no, I mean, it was an interesting experiment. That's good. It was, you know, I didn't know if something like an episode about points uh uh if we would have you would have looked at our patreon and it would have been everyone canceled well i'm heartened by the listener enjoying some of the nonsense the jason i nonsense this seemed
Starting point is 00:21:58 like this seemed like a very well received episode i have to admit i think that's true yeah yeah which and i i have i have some thoughts about how to proceed going forward yeah knowing that information but again that that that i will save uh before the club three i don't want to burn it off you do a lot of heavy lift i will say this i missed that you do end up doing some heavy lifting on the show uh um sometimes thank you for saying what do you what do you mean uh well anyway heavy lifting is relative i suppose it's not not literal no no not literally i mean we set up the mic stands not heart surgery or anything sometimes we have to move these chairs we're sitting in from down
Starting point is 00:22:34 below the stage we record on to up on top of the stage and that how big how high is this stage like a foot yeah that's a big lift heavy so so, sometimes you're like, oh, I'm, sometimes I would be like, oh, I'm driving this episode. I need to check my notes. I need to try to interject. And then I need to also question Jason about something he said that I don't know is history. So I'm like, I'm like, oh, this is a tough job I'm doing. And it's interesting now that I'm doing, like, I'm trying to, like, cycle through all of
Starting point is 00:23:02 it in my head. So I'm like, oh, Scott would have done two of these jobs. So it's interesting. It's interesting. I appreciate that. That's an interesting answer, Mike. So. And you're recording, you know, don't take out the new.
Starting point is 00:23:13 That's true, too. That's true. You're on the level. Yeah. Yes. You're always wearing multiple hats at all times. So, yeah. So I can relax a little bit.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You know, if Jason. I know what you mean, by the way. If Jason says something about a barrel, you know, you could say, what's that barrel all about? Or I could say, what's that barrel all about now, you know? It is nice to have, yeah, I feel when we've done two-person episodes, there is something about, like, yeah, it is, like, more of it is on you. Sometimes I feel, especially when we have a guest where, you know, we want to do a good interview with the guest or it's a very funny person or somebody we didn't know. I sometimes think like, well, I may be better off in host mode here and maybe I don't get to have as much fun like just with pure comedy.
Starting point is 00:23:53 That can happen. Yeah, yeah. These are the thing not to not, well, although maybe we should get in how the sausage is made, which is what Jason likes to do. That's true. Sure. How did you feel about the Scott Free era? Oh, I mean, I felt good.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I feel like I just brought my brand of thinking I'm normal and accidentally bringing chaos that I bring. Even going back and listening to our second episode ever about the Indianaiana jones adventure to prepare for part two i'm like oh i hit on the chaos very early on that it was in there yeah there was some chaos i i think um uh the the first little bit of it what i didn't an observation i had i didn't really say in the matt cardone episode is that i'm like oh I feel like early on we were trying to be very professional and a little more button up and then I
Starting point is 00:24:52 immediately started talking about something insane and then we all loosened up yeah and what was it what did you talk about I don't remember I also listened to the episode yeah I listened to the whole thing. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:25:06 I guess this is the time. Whatever, listener. It's this reunion homecoming episode. An early memory I have, and I don't know if it's that, but I feel like we've, in a really good way, we never talked about this too much. We didn't do practice episodes. We didn't super intellectualize it. We just started doing it.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And this is the kind of thing I get perspective on. That was seven years ago this all started. And this couple months that I left is the first. That's the longest stretch of not doing this in seven years. That's kind of a routine that's gone for seven years to get away from that and to get a little bit of perspective and stuff. Interesting to do. But basically something I remember is that like,
Starting point is 00:25:57 early on thinking like, so what is it? Do we just like, is it just analysis? I mean, I assume we could be a little bit funny, but what are we gonna? And there was something where we started doing like, it was like annoyed Harrison Ford voices, something that has happened throughout the show. That's been a runner the entire time.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And that the bit being like, oh, I see, we do bits and voices, and that's something that is part of this. That'll keep things loose. That'll keep things fun. That'll make it a comedy show. It was just a nice memory i i reckon that we we never we landed on it fully organically uh that it can be that kind of show uh then other things happened like well is it the kind of show
Starting point is 00:26:35 where a character can come and interrupt and hijack things and you put in sound effects of what the character is doing and we quickly realized no it's not particularly that kind of show but even that one has its following but later on maybe characters showed up and sometimes some characters do worry you know yeah yeah uh yes it is interesting if you listen to the second episode uh uh yes i was like oh it's a little stiff up at the top but then i'm like oh wait no it's actually even though we don't talk as much about the actual discussion of Indiana Jones, and I said this already on that episode, the actual discussion of Indiana Jones, I bet, is like 45 minutes on that episode. And there's a bunch of top talk and then a bunch of segment talk at the end.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Okay, yeah. I go, but if you listen to it, you go, oh, man, I've been saying the same dumb shit for seven years. Because, like, I thought, oh, there's going to be stuff I don't remember. And I'm like, oh, I'm saying saying the same stuff i say the exact same stuff well that's something that i feel and this wasn't just in my absence but i feel like a very common thing said on the show especially by you is like uh you know it's something i've been thinking and i you know i've said this a thousand times on the show and it is true there are these things that have been said one thousand times
Starting point is 00:27:41 yeah on the show yeah and i there's there was a bunch of stuff i thought i had said in that episode but probably just said in Yeah, and there was a bunch of stuff I thought I had said in that episode, but probably just said in other episodes, but there was a bunch of stuff where I'm just like, oh, yeah, this is, I thought I was really scared to listen to that first or second episode because I was like, ah, is it going to be embarrassing? Am I going to be, and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:27:58 it's not embarrassing. It's like a little different, but it's the same show. It's the same show the whole time. Yeah, the Colonel is there, and we had, like, we didn't do any practice record but we had had a lot of lunches and media like what is this and we had some documents like we certainly did prep work oh that's true yeah trying to documents it didn't just uh document or two i guess totally come out and like all right we'll get some mics and we'll just show
Starting point is 00:28:26 up like that voice though back then that oh yeah well because we were all hanging at the cellar sitting around the dirty wet table you know that's true yeah well who wants to hear entertainment from three white guys if at least one of them doesn't sound like that that's true uh yeah uh but yes it was uh you know, it's interesting. Did you, so does that mean, did you find that the pressing, ferocious need to do Indiana Jones 2 was not as extreme as you have believed it to be for many years? I think we actually found there was quite a bit to analyze. I do think there's a lot of bit. I honestly, I didn't get to my notes.
Starting point is 00:29:06 We talked too much about the boathouse and Disney Springs up top on that episode. And I'm like, ah, Ty, and then we did a little Muppets, and I'm like, ah, clocks ticking here. Oh, really? Okay. So you almost didn't do Indiana Jones, too. Just a little bit, and then we started going through, and then I felt like I was racing through some of it. But that is also a ride that benefits from being upgraded at least once or twice since we recorded that episode. Sure, yes.
Starting point is 00:29:30 We talked about the updates and some other stuff, yeah. I mean, it's all... Well, good. So you got your updates in. Are you happy? Are you satisfied? You got your sequel in. How do you feel?
Starting point is 00:29:40 I feel okay about it. Just okay? Yeah, yeah. That's not the report I want. I want the report that you loved it, that you're fully justified in pushing for it for all this time, and that we don't have to do it again now. I don't know about either of those.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I'm fully justified, yes. I don't know that we don't have to do it anymore. I think we have to do everything again. That's my philosophy. I think everything again. I think he's thinking about Indy part three already well I'm not it's a it's not it's not as hard it's not as clear in my mind as points two but Indy three is seven years from now perhaps oh by the way uh you said you know what you need to
Starting point is 00:30:17 do for points I did yes I think I know what I need to do as well which is to book another movie sure sure I will say this one get the hell out of here yeah well I can tell you I'll give you a six what I need to do as well, which is to book another movie. Sure, sure. I will say this one. Get the hell out of here. Yeah, well, I can tell you, I'll give you a six-month heads up so you can know when to be gone for points, too. If that can motivate me to find some work. Start your Indiegogo campaign to fund the movie.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Now, it doesn't have a premise yet. Well, all right, this is a rough idea. The idea is a guy is worried he's going to be bored, so he decides to make a movie as fast as possible. Yeah, yeah. We'll get into all of that. Yes. I want to say a couple, and then we will get to Small World Holiday, I promise.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Do we? I don't know. How strong is the caring? We will do it. We'll do it. Yeah, but you want to get to it next year we can get to it next year i don't care it could be a fully have we done that have we done a fully deferred i guess we've done the fake out we've done the false start frank marshall get up
Starting point is 00:31:12 but we never like fully kicked the can i think we can do it we could just call this scott's home for the holidays well that's a nice isn't it i thought it was nice nice like the ride in theory well let's see let's let's see where it goes i i wanted to share just a couple of things about what i just came from doing and just to remind to remind the listener the timeline uh bill basically i i think i am coming back from one of the probably the craziest stretch of my entire life that's what that's what my hiatus what you can use the word hiatus, but that implies relaxation. And in fact, it was the opposite of that.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Basically, if you don't recall the timeline, mid-September, Aaron and I's second child showed up earlier than we expected, kind of threw us, like shot us out of the parent cannon. Dealing with that, wonderful, but also stressful and crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And then just the way things timed out and this awesome opportunity that came my way with timing that was a little bit less than awesome, but hey, you gotta pounce when things come up. Basically, I went straight from, oh my God, new baby to a very intense run of prep into how I spent my November, which was directing a movie.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I directed my first movie. I've kind of alluded to that a little bit, but I was being cagey, mainly because I wanted to make sure that it happened, that it occurred, and then I didn't say a sentence that proved later to not be true. But I directed a movie, and I'm super proud of it, and I'm excited to see where it goes,
Starting point is 00:32:42 and hopefully talk further about my adventures on that and fill the audience in on it. I will say it was a, despite the like very compressed timeline, phenomenal crew, wonderful group of people, like the crazy summer camp that you hear. I mean, I was going to say that occurs, but I didn't know this occurred.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I've done like one longer form project, but not a movie specifically and i was really hoping for that kind of like crazy summer camp you're thrown in with a bunch of people you only sort of met and then you all gotta like go through adventures together and that's totally how it felt it was a wonderful thing the the writers of the movie were also the stars of the movie and it was a dream come true for them to get to do it so their enthusiasm was infectious and just like like very very positive stuff uh so that that's what i'm happy to to report even if there was you know a lot of good things happening in my life just like uh too many on top of each other i would say and it's been nice to like settle down and slow down uh i bet that points
Starting point is 00:33:41 episode was nice because it's such it was such a relaxing discussion About two points enthusiasts And you got to hear about different interests Outside of your own It must have been nice To just kind of slow the road Just like wow This is so It's so
Starting point is 00:33:55 Like It's so relaxing and meandering Did I put it on at.5 speed? No No no That's just what it is The peaceful easy feeling That song we all know
Starting point is 00:34:05 well i do podcast was like um look it's nice it's nice to hear my buddies having fun and i i'm gonna come back around i will i have a little story that involves that too that'll come good come back around to to that but i i did want to like, in thinking about things from this experience that were somewhat PTR coded, to use that term, there's a few that I wanted to bring back with me, one of which was very special. And I just had to share it. Lots of unbelievable crew on this thing, as I said, like so many people bringing their A game, like people like overqualified for the weird scrappy thing that that we were doing. And, you know, you kind of a movie like this relies on like daily miracles. And we had daily miracles because so many talented people were were bringing their best. And that included in the area of stunts.
Starting point is 00:34:58 We had some light stunts on this movie, which which was a thrill because that's where you know like i'm coming from i've been doing more animated stuff before this like in in the lead-up to you know switching over to to live action directing and in animation you could write whatever zany shit and it's not that you know it's probably one of the easiest things to make happen is like a you know somebody flying across the room or getting hurt or flying into the sky or getting like uh you know inflated really big and then floating up into the sky getting bigger and bigger as they go and then maybe getting popped you say that a little quieter a little more intense and then maybe maybe getting popped jason look it's not it is not my thing okay i just know it's out there and i had multiple people backing me up we're not i believe yes i believe you that it's real this is yeah well and this is
Starting point is 00:35:54 look to be to be fair that is correct knowing about a thing doesn't mean it's your thing and that's an unfair thing to bring to the table uh and also as i said like this isn't one of those situations where we didn't believe you i think what the i think i was a little skeptical but i yes eventually i believed i believe i believed jason i think what i think what the city and by the way of all the there's things i just i just shot many many days of a movie there's things that are out of my brain completely that happened two weeks yeah of course. and to Justin Donaldson. I think what you said was like, well, then the big problem for Mickey is that he'll be saying like, oh, don't blow me up. And then we were all baffled.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Like, what does that mean? Because we didn't understand that that is- I see. Like the idea that we were supposed to immediately unpack that and go, oh, it's a reference to inflatable stuff, the very common fetish. That I think was the issue for me.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Well- In your head, were you like, it's inflatable stuff. Everybody knows inflatable stuff. I figured, yeah, I think that's what it was. He's online, so I understand it, you know? He's online more, I guess. It's the big difference.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah, yeah. Does that mean, do you know what holding space is? In general? Yeah. Yeah, I feel like it's a thing that people said a lot more sincerely in like 2014, 2015. Oh, I see. And then it was, I hadn't heard about it for like 10 years.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Oh, okay. And then just seeing it in a media day interview. Like the Wizard of Oz's balloon returning. Yeah, about the lyrics of like a 20 plus year old song. Yeah. What a thing plus year old song. Yeah. What a thing. What a thing. Anyway, point is, you know, on a fairly low budget movie, stunts are kind of like a complex thing to get your head around.
Starting point is 00:38:00 You're like, can we do that? Can we do that? And we, thanks to a really great guy named Chris, a really great stunt coordinator we were able to put some some fun little moments in this movie who he's like oh that's a breeze that'll be fine that's fun i'm excited it's gonna be great to get to so like like in a crew full of great people this guy chris uh one of the best and what we always heard was uh you know because he comes from like big old stuff he's done marvel he's like and we just caught him in a window where he had a little bit of free time so he can like do us a solid help us out great well that's what we need love that great working with him in general then the the last uh
Starting point is 00:38:34 bit that he did he had somebody up on wires and we were figuring that out now that's that's gonna work and it was kind of a cold morning uh so everybody's bundled up a little bit and he's got kind of a knit cap on and the knit cap has an A on it and not just any A, but the avatar A. Wow. Not just any avatar A, but the avatar way of water A. The improved font with, with,
Starting point is 00:38:57 I don't know what it is in the, in the middle. We know one of the creatures. Papyrus plus. What do you call it? Yeah. Papyrus new and improved. And I see the A and I get a feeling.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And I suddenly feel a little bit of nerves come over me. And I say to him, is that from Way of Water? Did you work on Way of Water? And I think sensing the tone of my voice that it wasn't just asking a question, that I was bringing some weight to that. Chris looks me in the eye, addresses me by name. And he says, Scott, I was Jake Sully. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And I go flying back as if I'm on wires. I'm like, wait a minute. What does that mean? Okay. So he's Jake Sully's stunt double. And I'm sure there were like a number of those all told. But as he gets into it and he shows me some of the stuff that he did, he's fucking Jake Sully's stunt double in underwater sequences.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Wow. He's doing like crazy double helixes and shit, like powered by underwater jetpacks attached to his feet. And that's not just CGI. No. Like it's all mocap. They did all of that. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yes, he was in tanks. He flew, he was all over the world. He's in the Bahamas. I forget if he did it in New Zealand. Some of it's here. But yeah, no, that all happened and he was the one doing it. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And in a mocap movie like Avatar, you know, the stunt double is not just like, you know, a guy in a wig and a wide shot. Although that's also a cool thing. I'm not knocking that. We had a really great stunt double on this thing. But like that means when he says he was Jake Sully, he was Jake Sully.
Starting point is 00:40:34 He's Jake Sully in lots of possibly in more scenes than Sam Worthington. experiences of like doing a crazy underwater aerial helix thing and then getting out of like like getting out uh of the of the tank like he was in the tank he's in the tank with the ping-pong balls wow he gets out and goes and consults at monitor with james cameron and sam worthington who's giving him giving him character notes and then james cameron will watch this like unbelievably complex thing happen and james is like no good the breathing was all wrong i didn't believe the breathing five seconds before the thing at before the thing splashes down you need to be getting nervous i didn't feel any nervousness in your breath oh my god that's the sort of note that james cameron gets he is analyzing human biology
Starting point is 00:41:20 those are the notes that this guy got that's his there was the speaking gladiator 2 that got the cinematographer uh just trashed ridley scott for being lazy really he's like yeah he doesn't take as long to do things anymore and shots he wants to just wrap it up and he like lets stuff go not the case with 70 year old james cameron no clearly not yes he's looking at a fucking rib cage yeah there's bubbles flying everywhere the things are on fire and he's like look he's looking at chest expansion and going no no all wrong the computer could fix that yeah yeah but i but not in his world like it all has to stem from natural biology when you okay remember the whole thing about kate winslet breaking the tom cruise underwater breathing record uh she was
Starting point is 00:42:03 like she like she she did over seven minutes continuously underwater and if you google basically if you go into google images type in kate winslet underwater one of the first images you will find is her with kind of like the big wings like doing the the wingspan and then there's two guys in scuba gear down below her helping her watching her this guy chris is one of those guys. Whoa. Insane. Helping Kate Winslet being Jake Sully. And you guys know,
Starting point is 00:42:31 and the audience knows how blue pilled I have become, how avatar pilled I have become. And here I am doing a kind of like a nerve wracking experience. And right towards the end, I got brushed with the magic of Jake Sully. Incredible. Yeah. And the way he told me with looking me in the eyes where there was nothing braggy about it.
Starting point is 00:42:49 The way he said it was almost as if he was saying, I walked with Christ. I met him. I fastened his glory. Yeah. No, no ego. Just, just. No, he thought it was cool as shit too. Then he's like, oh, and then this one time and then I'm doing this and then I'm doing like fucking coolest,
Starting point is 00:43:05 coolest. Wow. So if you want to, if you want to see what I, what I believe is a project graced with Jake Sully magic that,
Starting point is 00:43:11 that will be this thing, which otherwise I don't really want to ruin any announcements about her or get into too much. So I, I had to share that. Couldn't keep that to myself. Got one more thing
Starting point is 00:43:22 before we go into a small world holiday and I think you'll find this nice. Most of this experience, very pleasant, wonderful, as I said, incredible crew, but I'm balancing a lot here. I'm balancing very new baby who I've barely met, and then I'm just thrown in. It's this whole crazy thing.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Basically, I switched places with my mother-in-law. I went to live at her place in Chatsworth because we were filming in beautiful Simi Valley so that I could get my rest, and then she and uh took care of my new son my older son uh uh god bless her god bless both of our grandmothers they really kept us together uh yeah yeah not my grandma the boy's grandmother sure uh but anyway it's this crazy thing barely processed having a child later i will watch jake sully's family grow in way of water and i will because way of water is that was the first i ever cried in a movie about being a dad it is so like deep-seated for me so having any way of water discussion anyway i will process
Starting point is 00:44:19 via way of water later but i'm you know i'm away from my family it's this crazy experience second son first movie uh and what i'm getting at i'm driving to that that's the base of any day where i'm i'm in this experience um but what i'm getting to is day three of the shoot where all of that is going on a new factor in day three of the shoot is that if you listener if you recall my son was unfortunately in the nicu for a little bit doing now, adorable. When I left for my last week of work, he couldn't smile yet. And I came back to a smiling baby. Magic, incredible, wonderful. So things are going great there.
Starting point is 00:44:54 But we had this NICU stay. And on day three of the shoot, we were operating from a reality where we thought that we owed the hospital $42,000. This turned out to be not true, but these were the circumstances of the day where I am going to do a thing that is very stressful regardless. And did I mention that this, oh, wait, wait, actually, wait, one more thing. This is a 15-day shoot.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Listener, if you know anything about film shoots, if you've ever been part of it or been part of one, 15 days is not, this is not enough. This is the tightest schedule ever, and there's so much pressure to you know like we can never go over time we can never uh like this this is the tightest uh schedule humanly possible there is there is no room for error just remember that as i go into what i'm going into and did i mention the day three of the shoot was also the the morning after donald trump Trump was reelected to the office of the presidency. So everybody's up really early, having probably checked their phones, hoping for good news, seeing the worst news, and now having to go into a day of work.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And God bless everybody in this, the cast and the crew. Everybody had this air of like, okay, I'm going to be buttoned up and we are going to get through this. And it is good that we have something to do. I'm really glad that this, we can, you know, purpose, purpose to the day. And as long as we could stay busy, we won't stop and think about the terrible thing that has happened. That get, that, that is, that all is in progress from about 630 to 930. At 930, we're in the middle of a scene. Audible power down.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Shoot loses all of its power. Everything goes dark. Total confusion. What just happened here? It was an unbelievably windy day in Simi Valley. It was the most visible wind. Like, distressingly visible wind. And we
Starting point is 00:46:42 start asking questions, and we realize, okay, power is down to the entire building well can we just throw things on a generator no because then we would have no power to the basically like we we need the lights of the room that we're in itself in order to keep going with the aesthetic that we have established so uh uh we we there is nothing we can film there is nothing we can do the power is out from 9 30 to 4 30 we lose an entire day now remember what i said about 15 days 15 day schedule that is not possible this was so crazy it's like it's all of this stuff it's all the stress in my life and then trump and then fucking
Starting point is 00:47:16 the winds of change knock out the power of the one like nice thing that we're all getting to do that's distracting us from these insane circumstances these were jokerfying conditions this was completely insane and what i needed to do in this moment was uh just kind of like touch the earth get tethered to something that was comfortable and just like basically i took a breather i'm like let me step outside for a second and i just kind of like all right i just needed a breather. I'm like, let me step outside for a second. And I just kind of like, all right, I just needed a minute. And in this minute, I realized you guys put an episode out. You had just put out the episode, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea,
Starting point is 00:47:53 with Matt Mazzani on the second gate. And I thought, I wonder how that is going over. And I checked the comments of that episode. And I see so many people saying saying this is making my day it is so nice to have just a regular funny ass ptr to listen to with the horrible news that we have just gotten and it was just wonderful to see uh the you guys and i can there's a compliment i can give that i'm not even a part of because i wasn't part of the episode uh that just you guys doing what you do was making the listeners
Starting point is 00:48:25 so happy and that the listeners were sharing such positive feedback and telling us that it changed everything on a very tough day. That made me so, it lifted my spirits in this very difficult day. By the end of the day, when I finally got to hear the episode, I felt the same way. It was my biggest
Starting point is 00:48:41 barrel laugh. Is that a term? Barrel laugh? I guess Jason's the one to ask. He's into the same way. It was my biggest barrel laugh. Is that a term, barrel laugh? Barrel laugh? I guess Jason's the one to ask. He's into the barrel play. Well, look, as long as it's not for walnuts or with straps on your midsection, I think you're fine. Barrel boy, Jason Sheridan. Barrel enthusiast.
Starting point is 00:49:01 No, I felt as jolly as a barrel full of walnuts seeing all of that nice feedback on a truly bonkers day. Yeah, well, thank you for saying that. Thanks. That's very nice. Had to pass that along and pass that along to Matt Mazzani, one of the finest people I know. Thank you, Matt. Thanks for holding it down.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Great guests. Fun episode to do. Yeah. Well, in a very sincere and nice one, you know, dreaming of a better place. You know, I mean, the world of... What could be better than escaping to the world of Tokyo DisneySea?
Starting point is 00:49:31 Sure. The most positive place on Earth. That's right. As everything's going to hell. Yeah, no, I would like to tell you, oh man, we strategically planned it just in case. You know what? What's counter-programming?
Starting point is 00:49:42 Yeah, we... Yeah. Well, it's a good thing you didn't go the opposite way and get super cocky and that the episode was about like, all right, today's topic, the Kamala robot. The sure-to-be-in-stuff. We're doubling down. We know this will happen. We know that voters will come through.
Starting point is 00:50:00 We saw the iowa poll this we're devoting a full episode to how resplendent that robot is going to be and how awesome her coat will be that could have been shoved into the back be put into the furnace and never seen again could have been possible but luckily no no you thought you just did you just did a nice pleasant one so anyway uh, just wanted to share that and say thank you. In a time where I was literally homesick doing a big, crazy thing, it was just nice to hear you guys doing what you do and being super funny. It was like, let's say Richie Sambora is now playing with Bon Jovi and he hears a Bon Jovi concert and he cheers him up.
Starting point is 00:50:44 He hears one? I don't know. He sees it. Well, this is difficult because isn't he out of the bit? Don't they not get along anymore? This doesn't hang out. I think he might be coming back, though. Maybe this doesn't hang together. I don't. Okay. I'm putting a tangent clock on this one. Two minutes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:59 One of these Green Day fuckers has some side project, doesn't he? Well, they all well, I mean billy has a few bands billy has a few bands i forget mike dern also i think has a side project as well what they always are to get they are very strong there's a tight three-person unit they would never i don't think they've ever done maybe you know mike dern did have wrist surgery 20 years ago i think i think he had a carpal tunnel but that's a long time i don't think he missed any shows though would just say the name of one of their stupid other bands well and then we can move on there's uh i'm trying to think the network was the one where there was like their devo band
Starting point is 00:51:34 like 15 years ago i think maybe they've done newer network music as well but is that all there's still all i think that's them the long shot is a billy Joe side project. And I think it might just be him. I don't know if there's another, like there's only two green names. I think it's only one. The Long Shot has some okay songs. Here's what I'm just going to pull from a list here. You know, it's as if, because the band didn't break up, right? That's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So it's as if I am Billy Joe and I have gone to do my 2011 side project, The Boo. But there's a lot of pressures to doing The Boo. And the pressures are kind of getting, or hey, The Long Shot, same thing. Whether it's Boo or Long Shot, flying solo and doing a big ambitious thing outside of your perfect group green day is definitely stressful. So hearing just like a great jam session happening between Mike and Trey probably would cheer Billy Joe up on that difficult day. I'm Mike Dern. Jason's Trey Cool in this scenario.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Oh, cool. The wild man. Trey Cool. Which one's the tall one, though? Trey is a big drummer. He's a big guy, kind of crazy. No, but isn't Mike Dern taller? Is he?
Starting point is 00:52:48 I don't know, actually. I should know that. Billy's obviously the shortest of the three, I think. Just to confirm, can you tell us the name of Bon Jovi's wine company? Hampton Water. Hampton Water. But Green Day has their own coffee as well. You know about the coffee and all the crazy items they put Dookie on.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Right. It's funny syntax. Bon Jovi has the wine Hampton Water, but Green Day has a coffee. Well, it's because he's went back to Bon Jovi. I just wanted to get us back to Green Day. So we're on the Green Day jag. Anyway, look, it's as if I was Billy Joe doing the boo and all the power to all my amps blew. And I didn't know how I was going to finish the boo, my side project.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Right. How is there no link when I click on this on Green Day Wiki? That's a good question. The boo isn't even good enough to get its own page on Green Day Wiki. I'm not very familiar with the boo, honest to God. I don't know. Let's keep it that way. Now that I'm back on the show, I don't want to see any votes over in club three about the boo i know i made myself the boo in this scenario but i don't
Starting point is 00:53:53 know oh there's a green day there's a billy joe nora jones collaboration here barf okay so small world holiday we need to talk about, don't we? Going strong since 1997. Oh, I know. The only hiccup was the 2020 pandemic closure. Yeah. No. Thank God the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Mike, if that laptop's doing anything other than clicking over to the small world holiday tab, then I want to see it shut. Miranda Lambert and Billy Joe teamed up once seven years ago saying that all quiet and lasciviously as if you're talking about inflatable stuff yeah a song called ordinary world i was asking for it i was trying to say a nice sincere thing and then i walked and then i myself drove it right into green day land yeah i was deflecting from a compliment a little bit but i didn't want it i didn't i only did bon jovi which is not as interesting as green day so i would say bon jovi is not as interesting as almost any topic in the world i would agree i would agree with that but that actually does make me at least somewhat
Starting point is 00:54:59 interested in it because of that no he's really i'm just saying but obviously it's not as loaded on the show not yet give it time but if bonjo okay here's what just happened bon jovi was said i kind of registered that i don't yes yeah yeah powering up bon jovi war machine gearing up in three months we'll be doing some you'll have decided and i like it and i like bon jovi and i got my daughter listening to uh the theme song to Hampton Water. Hmm. Is that possible? Hampton guzzling theme from Hampton Water.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Is that possible? Maybe. You got to show her the family trio. Bon Jovi Jr. married 11 from Stranger Things. Oh, that's true. Jason knows that. You know what is something worth talking about, though, that I think we won't have time this holiday season,
Starting point is 00:55:43 but you know about Jon Bon Jovi's uh christmas album right don't do i well uh i have to lead a little bit more this was before he was john bon jovi his name was john bon jovi he had not split up the name at this time you know where i'm heading with this i don't think so he does all of the human singing on the star wars holiday album, Christmas in the Stars. I didn't know this. Christmas in the Stars, Christmas with the Stars. Wow, okay. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Now, is this album separate from the holiday special? It is. Confusingly, yes. There's the whole crazy holiday special, but then there's also, it's Christmas in the Stars. It's the first professional recording of Jon Bon Jovi. Wow, I did not know this. His songs are all very boring, I will say. No way.
Starting point is 00:56:30 As opposed to, I mean, because the money is the song sung by C-3PO. Wow. Which is the title song. Christmas in the Stars. Christmas in the Stars. I don't know this. That's shocking. Christmas in the Stars?
Starting point is 00:56:43 That's shocking to me. I am very surprised, but yeah. Do you guys know, real quick, I i mean we're all over the place do you guys know this the rock and toontown album uh with the guy was his name like uh craig and company yeah okay yeah i'll do craig and company because i was on the disney channel so much when i was a kid i he did this he did a song called haircut that the disney channel really pushed do you like my hair cut you need a haircut yeah i was wow but it's a full toontown album that's yes sky silga told me about this wow because i had asked on that on the episode the parade episode what is this toontown song
Starting point is 00:57:17 and then he texted me and he said that is a from this album rockin toontown i know that there was a full concert special that aired on the Disney Channel, which I have watched in the last two years. You see, we're not so different, all of us. We come together for Christmas over the same bonds. Dumb, bad Christmas special shit. Rockin' Toontown, are we there yet?
Starting point is 00:57:40 I'm bored. Food for thought. Voice of the spirit. Younger kids stuff stuff these are all tracks from this do bullies have mommies no that's why they're mad bullies are a different species right they're they're inhuman they're basically trolls this year you know i had this thought of this year i was like did we get through too much eisner i was like are we burning too much eisner this year because we really feel like did we get through too much Eisner? I was like, are we burning too much Eisner this year? Because we really feel like
Starting point is 00:58:06 second half especially, like we're hitting a bunch of weird Eisner stuff. And I'm like, no. It is an unlimited amount of stuff. The rest of the goofy parade. Yeah, so no. I feel better. But there was a couple weeks there.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Really, to me, his primary contribution slash the Michael Graves team Disney building in beautiful Burbank, which we all call home, the building held up by the dwarves. Yeah, there's, you know, we haven't even talked about, we haven't really talked about his
Starting point is 00:58:35 architectural footprint on this world, which we'll maintain for thousands of years after we're all gone. Yeah. Aliens will come and dig up the, the wow this was a thoughtful species well they're building it's so clever little dwarves are holding it up yeah well the the the aliens that are here already are appreciating it i think the ones that are still they're showing up it's another thing you didn't get out you didn't you didn't manage to get your
Starting point is 00:58:59 alien talk out while i was gone there hasn't been any but there's been a lot of alien stuff that's happened lately too big hearing it's all weird just got an email about another feature this stuff is fucking weird though this stuff is legitimately interesting unlike the other stuff that you even you admit it's not interesting well yeah no it's not and i said it on the episode i said on the points episode i go on its face you could go to a person on the street and go you know there's a big alien hearing where a bunch of guys said a bunch of crazy stuff and somebody go oh that is interesting and you go why would you like to hear about the jersey mike sub that i just had for free and they would say no but you didn't but yes but that's a person on the street we are talking about people
Starting point is 00:59:34 who listen to this podcast yeah these are sickos these people who listen to us they're all this they're the sicko they're that that comic good yes drawing of the sicko yes there are people jason and i's people i guess if they like the points yeah i saw some negative comments too tsk tsk you don't know your points that's what i say three this will all live in club three uh uh okay sincerely boy i at this point we better not have more than 15 minutes about small world holiday i had a feeling it was gonna go well okay all right here let's let's actually like power let's like we could preview We better not have more than 15 minutes about Small World Holiday. I had a feeling it was going to go. Well, okay. All right. Here.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Let's actually power it. We could preview for Small World Holiday next year. Ah, Small World Holiday 2. I want to get in Small World Holiday 2. Small World Holiday 2. You already snuck me into a sequel by even doing Small World Holiday. Yes. Why not?
Starting point is 01:00:21 It's a seasonal overlay. We do seven haunted mansions. It's the same shit. We need seven haunted mansions. It's the same shit. We need to do more everything. More everything. But it's not the same shit because we do talk about different things. For instance, in year three, we cover verandas. And in year seven, we cover how you tried to do a class to learn Shakespeare, which
Starting point is 01:00:39 you don't want to learn from Marvin Shimmerman. But we could have that gold. Different facets of the haunted mansion. We could have that gold from every ride we could have we could find new different tangents in every single ride wow wall was right imagination truly is limitless i don't know if he said that he might have said it seems like you put it on construction wall you gotta fill in some quotes i sincerely believe that we can get through small world Holiday. Let's just, okay, let's reset it. We could try. Would it help if
Starting point is 01:01:08 we said, like, even there might be no ad break when I do this, but what if, I bet this will help with energy. What if I say, and we'll be right back, and when we're back, we'll talk about It's a Small World Holiday. Alright, so we're back, and there may have been no ad in what you just said.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I'm the one who controls just tried I can control the ads You could put an ad in there Wow You could really fuck me up and put an ad in I'm gonna put an ad right when you're talking right now The next sentence you talk, I'm putting it right in the middle No, don't put an ad right now Yeah, right there
Starting point is 01:01:35 That's where it is Oh, damn it I mean, I don't really know what happened because only the listener can hear this But you did it, didn't you? Yes, I did Wow, when it comes to b2b marketing i love no i don't know that's just it's an ad i keep hearing on some podcast too i put two ads really close together oh man son of a bitch this is because this is like so this is like a video
Starting point is 01:01:56 game weapon that you're with like you're the ad splatter your power is you can splat ads in the middle of any you like if if the two of us say anything that you'd like if we started saying mike i don't want to hear about alien stuff that's not the kind of thing yes shit he splattered an ad the ad splatter struck again is jason is there something you want to say negative to mike it's amazing just how many drugs hymns.com has available nowadays the problem is we only have three ad breaks in a regular episode so I've used the ad breaks up and I'm gonna let that last sentence play normally that's a good structure though to
Starting point is 01:02:30 like cause you know instead of like the boring like it's roughly every third to just like jam all those ads I think that's what I've done almost together but then with only three seconds of the podcast technically does come back but just for three and a half seconds this is gonna make so many people mad cause like I'm gonna have to do the bit now this is in here but people are gonna
Starting point is 01:02:49 have like a full four minutes of ads i'm gonna be so mad some of them are already mad because i'm bad well don't say that they're out there i see your little comment some people didn't like points some people didn't like points. There's a flavor for everyone on Podcast the Ride. And that's what it's about. Like a holiday feast. Each of us brings a different flavor to the table. One of us brings wet walnuts. The other brings
Starting point is 01:03:15 warm walnuts. My walnuts are warm and dry. And Jason's are wet and cold. Jeez. I didn't realize it was a... I have no type of walnut. Fire roasted? Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Hmm. I like that. Inflated? Frozen walnut? Your walnuts are frozen? Ice cold. Just cracking some teeth? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Well, that would be a more exciting... You didn't have teeth crackers growing up? You put them in a nutcracker, then that's an extra extra exciting crack Because you're cracking the ice and the walnut shell That's true You gotta have a metal walnut You'd have a metal nutcracker though too Because a wooden one maybe would break I don't think nutcrackers crack nuts
Starting point is 01:03:56 So good They're more decorative I think it depends These things are certainly decorative. You should not. Yeah. Jason, would you use a decorative walnut cracker? No. You would use a practical metal one.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Yeah. Do you have one of those? I don't think. I think just ornaments that maybe they do the motion. Do you have a metal nutcracker or a soldier? A wooden one. The wooden soldier boy. I don't have, I don't think I have any metal nutcrackers in the house.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Oh, I file away a wedding present idea. Oh. I'm getting him a big nutcracker. That's all right. Life size. I'll get boring metal, you get a giant.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Yeah. Yeah, his and her. Get recreations of Jason and Jane. I'm getting him like a sexy lady for his bachelor party. A sexy lady nutcracker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:50 You think that'll be good, right? I don't know if you want your nuts cracked. No bachelor party. That's the last thing you want. Oh yeah, we gotta have a Might be your last chance. Are we having a bachelor party?
Starting point is 01:04:59 I don't know. What do you think, pal? I don't know. I never had one either, really. Oh yeah. What about we team up? Where are we going? What do you think pal i don't know well i didn't i never had one either really oh yeah what about we team up where are we going what do you think uh we're going down to uh knott's berry farm or i actually did consider what do you think we're gonna do burbank sears are we gonna walk around the burbank sears yeah what do you think uh i have now been in the Burbank zombies series oh I heard
Starting point is 01:05:25 I'm glad they got to this while I was gone I'm just making sure you remember I know you have a lot well you got engaged mere feet from it yeah it's true alright what time is it how long have we been going we've been going like an hour and five
Starting point is 01:05:41 there's plenty of time to talk about that they put Christmas lights on it's a small world i think we can do it i believe in us small you did some of the stuff 1990 since 1997 walt disney's it's a small world is transformed has been transformed from a world's fair festivity to a uh to a holiday spectacle. Holiday delight. With every color you could imagine. Red, green, even blue. They put a big Santa hat on the clock face outside. They sure do. Which is nice. It is nice.
Starting point is 01:06:15 This Small World Holiday is better than regular Small World. I like this take. Better than regular Small World. I might have to agree with you there. I really like this take. A factor of 10. And I'm not a Small World hater. I like Small World.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Fine. I don't go on it a lot. I go on it more now that I have a daughter. Yeah. Better. So much better. Now, what is it? Because I tend to agree with you.
Starting point is 01:06:34 What is your knee jerk as to what makes it better? And anything you don't say, I will try to throw in. The outside looks awesome. The outside rules. It is full. If you haven't seen it, go online. It's just tons of Christmas lights. Because people are poor friends in Orlando and I think all the other parks at this point.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Various parks have flirted with this, tried it out, but it didn't stick. Really? I think Disneyland's the only one that took it all the way. Right? They don't do this in Disney World, do they? Am I right? They don't do it in Disney World. They don't have the spectacular facade.
Starting point is 01:07:02 That's a real problem with the Disney World. That's for that part of it Disney World. For that part. Yeah, the Magic Kingdom Small World doesn't compare, I would say. Kind of an indoor loading. They also don't care about Disney World like they care about Disneyland. What do you mean? Like, imagine, like, it doesn't. We get, like, Tiana's Bayou Adventure, it was designed for Disneyland,
Starting point is 01:07:20 and then they shoved it into Disney World. Is that true? That's what I heard. That's what I heard. And, like, there's still, still i mean you can feel the philosophy like the rivers of america gone disney world they're like see you later cars are moving in and ours are like they paint i mean it's a few years ago already you got like historic landmarks right that's what that's so that they aren't i think that's currently the philosophy when it comes to
Starting point is 01:07:42 disneyland the proximity of Imagineering headquarters being right up the highway. Go check on it. Well, look, that's what the Lake Nona campus was supposed to. It was. And well, hey, maybe they'll return to it. I don't know. They might, yes. I feel like there's rumblings about it. I don't know what climate, so I don't know how friendly Florida will be in the future.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Let me throw this in also because you mentioned Tiana. It seems like we've closed out the year without doing Tiana. I would really to go i really you've done it i have not gotten to do it here's another thing that day that i just described day three of the shoot which was so harrowing for me in many different ways this was also the day that the magic key passes were going on sale yes and i was like there's no way i can be on this set and managing everything that i have to manage and also be like, one sec, hang on.
Starting point is 01:08:26 The Pinocchio thing is still loading. His nose is getting shorter, which means I'll be up and it'll be my turn. Sorry, just hold the take, hold the roll. That was not going to happen. But I also, I was doing some math the night before. I'm like, hmm, if this NYT needle keeps going the way it seems to be going, I think I'm going to want a lot of Disneyland in my future. And I haven't had a pass in a while.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Basically, I paid a friend to get it to be in the queue for me and to get me an annual pass. So I'm back. I'm back, baby. I needed it for that Trump cheer up for that post-shoot celebration. So I will be, I will go. And then I got the lowest tier uh and in which then the shoot's over and i'm like hell yeah i you just finished your first movie what are you
Starting point is 01:09:11 gonna do next i'm going to disneyland look at calendar oh all of december is blacked out yeah fuck me january 8th you'll be back or something like that yeah so as soon as i can which will be the new year i will go on on tiana yeah Yeah, we'll do that maybe January or February. You better pack some extra socks. I hear the water has been really hitting people. It's killing people. It is so soaking people. Thank God.
Starting point is 01:09:36 And I guess, Jason, you better not pack extra socks because I know you're going to want to get your soak on. The cold's been a little unpleasant lately. And I know Southern California people like, well, use cold lightly. But it's like, I'm a little sensitive to heat and cold nowadays. You're more of a summer wet socks man. Yeah. You could pre-soak your socks to get comfortable and then go on it. Oh, like a training.
Starting point is 01:10:04 So a training for T-Auto. Soak your socks in the nearby bathroom. Soak your socks. Wake up at 6.55. Get the virtual cue and get shut out of it. Sitting there in my soaking wet socks practicing. But you're still getting your reps in. I like this.
Starting point is 01:10:24 I like practicing. That's what Ernest did. And Ernest Goes to Splash Mountain. It retains that tradition. I am getting ready, Vern, for my grand voyage on Tiana's Bayou Adventure. I am soaking my socks to the brim. Ice cold temperatures.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Watch this. And then what he probably, and then it's like then you see like, they like turn his ankles blue with digital, with an old analog effect. Yikes. I'll just wear myself up with some hungry bear barbecue. Okay, the next virtual queue is in two and a half hours. The next ordering time that's available.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Wait, I have a question. Jason, when's the last time you went to Disneyland? I actually, I was looking for, I was about to say this, but I have not been in a theme park in over a year. Oh my God. Since we were in Orlando? Wow. I think since we were in Orlando.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah. So wait, you haven't been in the parks, but you have been looking up what aspects of going to the park are difficult. Oh yeah. So that you can be mad about them from afar. I like to keep abreast, you know. I like to keep updated. It's his job.
Starting point is 01:11:28 The man's job. It's our job. Yeah, you're right. But Mike has also done a pretty good job at filling in, you know, his outings. Jason and I have a separate text chain, of course, about all these different details. That's probably smart. Yeah. Not to exclude you. We've had smart. Now to exclude you,
Starting point is 01:11:46 we've had a text since 2009. No, no, no. We're excluding him. He doesn't want to be involved. Feel free. Oh, you would like to be excluded on Sunsoft. Well, I don't know. He doesn't care about the four different lemonades
Starting point is 01:12:01 you can get at the Hungry Bear Barbecue. It's crippling for me. You and I want to talk about the different lemonades they now have at Hungry Bear Barbecue Jamboree. Well, and all these new water dispensers, which is something usually packs in a water They got a lot of different sauces. I ate there with the family. We brought them all there.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Oh, my God. Mobile order the food? I just got an email. We have to reshoot all that stuff from when the power went down. They need me right now, guys. I'm sorry. Well, I guess we'll have to talk about the sauces. But Scott, your movie Red 1 already came out.
Starting point is 01:12:31 It'd be funny if you revealed here that you read Red 1. I've been being modest. Of course I did Red 1. Small world. But I know people also say Haunted Mansion holiday, it's like, oh, the tourists go to Florida and they wouldn't, you know, like it to go and not see the original haunted mansion.
Starting point is 01:12:48 That's sort of a flimsy reason they give for why they don't do Jack Skellington down in Florida. Well, I think the downtime two weeks before two weeks after they just can't afford the month. That's what people say. But like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Rides are down all the time and people love haunted mansion holiday. And then the average like theme park goer loves it more than we do. And we like it. We're fine with it. I really like it. I am not one of these haters of this thing. Sure. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I would say that on a certain day, maybe. But I'm just saying, I don't know. They could do it in Florida. They do it in Japan. Yeah. So I'm just saying, it does feel like we get we do get special stuff still yeah well here's also here's what i recall about small small world holiday uh is that this okay 1997 it opens and this was this era where we've revisited this uh from time
Starting point is 01:13:39 to time this this this is when i started like being a little online about the parks this is where where uh that turn happened and I'm like what and I'm getting on my little news groups and seeing how like oh things are getting a little chintzy maybe this maybe this park expansion is not going to be what we think it is Main Street Electrical Parade's going away what are they replacing it with the worst parade ever made a lot of stuff like that is happening and New Tomorrowland was like like uh so it was kind of a it was a bummer of a time. You know, it was, I've described it before.
Starting point is 01:14:08 It was a loss of innocence for me in terms of my pure park love. And we weren't getting a lot of cool stuff. And what I remember is that, okay, let's see. So they're doing a holiday, they're doing a Christmas version of Small World. Well, what if that, what if they kind of crap out out on that the way they've been crapping out on everything and sure enough it is just this modest little project that's really nice that stuck and that they've never stopped it was a bright light in sort of a grim budget crunched time for disneyland specifically so i always have fond memories of it for that reason i'm glad it never dropped off i also also remember, you guys have any memory of this
Starting point is 01:14:46 or have you seen pictures of it? That there was a time where It's a Small World did not have the glimmering white and gold color scheme. They did this kind of pastel thing that was just not that good. Similar,
Starting point is 01:14:58 not nearly as egregious as the weird forced copper paint job in Tomorrowland, but it just wasn't as good. It looked better pure white like like the kind of perma 60s feel of the it's a small world facade right it went away for a little bit but then they put christmas lights all over it and it actually the colors complemented that very well it like the christmas lights kind of fixed the aesthetic uh that it's
Starting point is 01:15:21 a small world fell into that wasn't as pleasant so So I have just very fond memories of when it started. Just like, this is a nice thing. It's such a layup. And they, yeah, they nailed it. It's just a nice thing. It's a nice thing. And it's also like, I'll just keep comparing it to Haunted Mansion Holiday
Starting point is 01:15:39 just because that's the closest thing I have to like an annual tradition of an overlay. It is, it's nice because it doesn't change the rise not they're not putting new characters it's not a different movie it's it's nice because and i it sounds stupid when you say it it's nice because they put us other lights on it and they put santa hats on things yeah and there's a slightly different soundtrack yeah yeah and and it's like it's interesting because it's like i was thinking like haunted mansion what if they did a like holiday haunted mansion but it wasn't nightmare before christmas
Starting point is 01:16:10 and you just put santa hats on all the ghosts you changed the soundtrack fine but but fun still yeah yep but i'm saying like it's an interesting it's a different thing than that because it's like you're just dressing up what's there already and i'm not saying it's a good or bad thing but it's interesting that like it maintains it maintains the spirit of it uh in a way obviously stronger than the haunted mansion holiday is which changes the vibe of the ride well that uh that soundtrack elevation is definitely a big thing a lot of the feeling i get that i love about haunted mansion holiday is being outside and that kind of like that weird like shimmery unsettling score before that it's not even from the uh the Danny Elfman soundtrack and similar hearing a like big elevated version of obviously the song changes uh the the dolls all sing jingle bells and in some cases uh deck the halls but there's all
Starting point is 01:17:04 there's still some itits a small world in there and the arrangement is really nice. It's nice to hear kind of a 90s, bigger, better produced, strings-oriented, holiday-infused version of the song. I think the song It's a Small World really shines in its more limited capacity. I agree.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Nice version. We're no small world song haters either. That's right. But it is, you know, I get it that it's very repetitive and it's a very simple type song, but you do appreciate it more in between Jingle Bells or Deck the Halls. When you get little breaks from it. Yes. Just varying it up at all makes you kind of miss and appreciate the simple earworm nature.
Starting point is 01:17:47 I think overall the song is an upgrade. Jingle Bells? I think it is too. I mean, I love Christmas carols, so I have to agree with you. I'm a big Christmas guy. So they play- Wonderful. I have been now, the last month I've been twice to Disneyland.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Oh, great. And there's a lot the family i got the i made the family get passes parents wow so like there's a there's different you do the whole operation yeah your your folks go along with your daughter and yes there's different configurations you can have i can pull one family member i mean i am i brave enough to go with a two-year-old yes but i haven't done it yet like just you and her is scary a little bit but I would do a universal first because well I've done that I've done oh you have okay yeah but it's uh it's such a long car ride and if something goes wrong so speaking of something going wrong last time I was there it's it's very hard sometimes to get her to nap
Starting point is 01:18:40 at the right time because a lot of excitement going on so she's in the stroller still so i'm like okay if i push her in the stroller at the right time i can get her out and the time before that i was just walking around star wars land pushing her around and she was yelling and pointing a grogu and then calling for her mother you're trying to get the naps to still happen while you're just walking around yes because she just she just gets, the day can last a little longer then. Okay, yeah. Because she won't be so hard to deal with at seven, eight, nine o'clock, whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Are you closing that stroller? Are you trying to encourage kind of a relaxed vibe? It happens, it's happened a lot. So like in the middle of earlier in the day, she'll go to sleep. If she's in the stroller for an extended period of time and nothing is too distracting. So in Galaxy's Edge head she's running around and
Starting point is 01:19:26 She was like so awake and I was like oh this ain't Happening she saw Chewbacca she's never Seen Chewbacca she's not seen Star Wars She's Chewbacca it shocked the hell out Of her she quieted down I swear to God within two or three minutes she was out She was asleep it just Like broke her from her pattern
Starting point is 01:19:41 She liked seeing him and she's like I'll bring him up Now and she knows what's going On but he broke her and she went Right him and she's like i'll bring him up now and she knows what what's going on but he broke her and he she went right to sleep it's like her brain couldn't process so she just like she just gave up like well right not for today yes that's tomorrow's work she was so up and pointing it like a grogu backpack and pointing everything and i'm just like wheeling her around here i'm like she's gonna go to sleep go to sleep and then chewbacca did it so then cut to the next week we went. And I'm in the Esplanade. I'm like, get in your sleep.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I did it last time. We can do it this time. The Small World Holiday theme comes on in the Esplanade, which is the full Jingle Bells Small World. She is almost out. I have leaned the stroller all the way back. I can tell she's on her way out. Small World Holiday comes on.
Starting point is 01:20:25 She loves both of these songs. She starts singing and it ruins the entire nap. She does not go to bed. She is in there. I can see it. She's lying down. She's like, is this small world after? And then sings right into Jingle Bells.
Starting point is 01:20:40 She's going back and forth. Nap ruined. We couldn't go. It ruined from 5 p.m on because she was so tired so you're trying to find chewbacca now well i should have this very but getting from esplanade to galaxy's edge it's a mile and a half it's a what's a wild yeah wild trip there with the stroller you can do it uh uh and in small it was such an infectious song. She couldn't stay asleep. She needed to be awake to sing this thing.
Starting point is 01:21:10 And yes, I also get it. I tried walking around Grand Californian at that point with her, just kind of in the back, and it didn't work. It really screwed me. I'm amazed you try the naps even out on the road. That's cool that it's worked. It's worked it's just it's worked almost every time and it just it extends our ability to be there without
Starting point is 01:21:31 tantrums sure yeah yeah for a little longer you gotta appreciate what you got because i just aaron and i just went backwards oh it's really hitting me because i was sort of gone i was like i was busy and grandma was helping and and I'm like, oh right, a baby. Yeah, yeah. I'm back at the front of the line. Uh-huh. Oh boy. You climbed the mountain once, now you gotta climb it again. Yeah, yeah. At least I know I can, but oh boy.
Starting point is 01:21:55 So I was, but I was, while this was going on, I was like, god damn, this is a good version of this song. I was cursing it and loving it at the same time. That's great, that's great. Stuff in the... Jason, you got something on the pad. I do, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:08 What are you looking at right now? Well, I agree. More Christmas hats. That's my B plus up. Like, put a Christmas hat on every human and creature in the ride. I mean, I guess a Santa's hat.
Starting point is 01:22:18 It's not a Christmas hat, but you could have it be some other type of hat. Am I hallucinating this? We did an episode about Santa Kong, right? I think we did a full discussion of just that they put a Santa hat on King Kong. We did do that, right?
Starting point is 01:22:31 I think we did. Yeah. I think we did. But that's a big one. That's one of the best. Don't overthink it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Put a big hat on a big thing. Yeah, yeah. So here is one of my favorite creatures in the ride. It's like this sea serpent has a santa hat on and a wreath around their neck oh yeah yeah yeah and it's great and i was a little disappointed because some of the iconic creatures like the the gator with the uh or the crocodile with the umbrella or the pink hippo didn't have that much christmas stuff going on no they're not all wearing this one's this guy's decked out you know the umbrella the umbrella on the croc doesn't have like there's not like a
Starting point is 01:23:12 candy cane pattern on that i might have just not uh notice it i i didn't see it this popped even just watching video this popped of like it's under the sea, Ariel's next to them. So there's also a very cute, I think it's the snake from Jungle Book, but it's in the Egypt sect. It's Ka, kind of like on a deconstructed Christmas tree. Yeah, maybe. Let me, I can describe the thing open here. It is like right in front of the, or to the side of the Sphinx.
Starting point is 01:23:49 So, but it's like the opposite of the Indiana Jones snake, which is scary. This one is cute. Well, I should hope so. Yeah. A bit of the ride is a bit of a different tone. It would have, I mean, it'd be very funny if right in the middle of small world there was some like terror uh the one of those after hours events they just made small world scary they bring out slave pinocchio oh god from hong kong yeah yeah oof so that was rough yeah i missed that did you see that picture of him no i think you tagged me and i still
Starting point is 01:24:24 that's a sign to not look Yeah that was a really scary picture That sounds very creepy In terms of scares in this thing I was watching a video of it And I didn't know from what year But keep in mind that there's a This is obviously largely about Christmas
Starting point is 01:24:41 And the holidays But then there's kind of a New Year representation as well And there's always a part new year representation as well. And there's always a part where the, there's a flashing sign of that, that has the, you know, next year, the,
Starting point is 01:24:53 the numbers of next year written on it. And in this case that just, we, we round a corner and I wasn't expecting it. And that all of a sudden we're in the new year part and then flashing on and off and lights is 2020 yeah and i when i didn't so i must have been watching a 2019 one and not knowing that it's coming there's something about seeing 2020 and flashing lights it's it's like you're looking at the confederate flag it's like it's it's a hate crime to see the words to see the numbers 2020 like don't show that to me.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That video, I should report it to YouTube. Yeah, yeah. You could probably get it. They would understand. The one I was watching, I did notice that because the one I was watching was 2025. Ah.
Starting point is 01:25:36 So I did not have that same reaction. Although I guess that's going to be the same situation in five years. Well, yeah. Let's just hope that... Here's the hope we can put out into the world, is that 2025 is not a future notorious year. Well, we'll see. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Hopefully, I contain that bird flu. Don't give me that grumbly yell. That grumbly yell. What if it was Harrison Ford saying, we'll see. I'm the Hulk, but red. Well, yeah, he's bitter, because people are going to see me in that stupid red Hulk.
Starting point is 01:26:07 What do you mean another round of reshoots? My friends are going to see this. They're going to make fun of me. If we reshoot it a 12th time, maybe it'll be good. What do you mean you already put out the Happy Meal toys? What are my grandkids going to get? This right here is awesome. These wooden-
Starting point is 01:26:27 Like Kalikimaka? Yes, and these wooden Santas are really fun. Oh, yeah. They're kind of like tiki Santas. Yeah, but I mean, it's almost like a 2D wooden Santa, and they're really stylized. It's hard to track from year to year. I mean, I guess you could have track from year to year what they put up. Somebody must.
Starting point is 01:26:44 I'm sure there is a a running tally of like, and this was new this year, and this was new this year. But it's all kind of a wash to me. Nothing so insane has been added. They put the snowman, I believe, at the end, toward the end is new this year. So this big, if you've seen that, which is a really cool thing.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Giant snowman. Yes. And I think it says winter wonderland under him and the font is a little sinister but it's supposed to look like icicles sinister well hold on let me find it uh yeah yeah here here uh the uh snowman was added in 2011 was it really what oh then i'm thinking of something else i saw an old video i'm thinking maybe something changed about it but i'm thinking of something else oh i see it's kind of yeah that's a little bit of a metal band font Yeah I like it but yeah
Starting point is 01:27:28 I feel like the lights Outside The lights on the building As like LED technology Just keeps getting better and better I feel like they're more vivid All the time Sparkles I feel like
Starting point is 01:27:44 It's not just straight lights. You'll get little bright white sparkles in there, too. Sure, and it feels extra fun when it hits the top of the hour, and is it every few minutes? 15 minutes are the little clock shows. It's the little show
Starting point is 01:27:58 that goes on. Wait, no, okay, let me admit, I watched a ride through, but I don't know what happens to the little clock show. I don't know how the clock show is different, but it is different. First of all, there's a hat on the clock, as you said. But what else happens to that clock show? Do we know? Do we need to just watch a video right now? Well, I think it's kind of standard.
Starting point is 01:28:15 The little guys come out, and then they go back like a cuckoo clock. But there's nothing special? It's not different for the holidays? I didn't really notice a difference that stuck out when I watched it, but I could be wrong. I admit to not watching the actual ceremony. I watched the turning on the lights ceremony, which is just a very quick thing. Oh, they do that?
Starting point is 01:28:34 Where they do almost like they do a California adventure at Halloween time. It's an unspectacular ceremony, but I do like the idea that you switch on. I wish there was a Guardians of the Galaxy when it's monsters after dark when they like counted down to like the thing turning yeah a different color yeah um but no i don't actually don't know i actually should look that up yeah you should look and see if there's a difference uh in the little clock show because yeah they it's every 15 you said it's usually like the toy soldiers come out is everyone pretending that they don't know what happens to try to get Small World Holiday 2 to happen? We have to.
Starting point is 01:29:07 We didn't tell you what happened to the clock show. If it's happened in seven years, that's fine. We're on a good precedent. You may as well punt. I was reminded in the very- Two of us will have quit by seven years from now. There'll be one of us left. I don't know who it is.
Starting point is 01:29:21 And is it a pure monologue or is the one do, I don't want to suppose who it is, but is the other, is the one who's left doing it to like pillow versions of the others? Oh, maybe. Yeah. There's like, it's, you're pretending they're there or it's, they've been replaced by an AI. We both, we, whoever we are, they've been replaced by AIs. Yeah. Like James Earl Jones, we have willingly submitted our voice to the ai the ai-averse
Starting point is 01:29:46 uh except we did not also die right but yeah it's well he did it before he died yes he did so he got paid he got a lot of fucking bad bullshit with darth vader they can do whatever they want and his family gets paid which is nice there's something so that's good i i was reminded i was saying at the very beginning of the ride, you kind of hear like a monologue from Santa, but he's in his home? There's a little Santa house. Yeah, there's a Santa house. So you're all just kind of voyeurs.
Starting point is 01:30:17 You're all just kind of peeping on Santa. It's just like we're hearing his innermost thoughts. We're hearing his monologue. He's talking to himself. It's like we're hearing his innermost thoughts. We're hearing his monologue. He's talking to himself. So you're saying you think he's thinking that. He's not saying it to us. I think he's saying it, but he's like talking to himself. Like if you talk out loud when you're like, okay, I got to measure this. I got to do, you know.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Well, this is your read on it, but is this just a cousin of some of the sexual things that we've learned about in the recent past? Is this a fetish called like Chris Moe voyeurism? I don't think peeping Tom is a universal reference. I think voyeurism is a- Peeping Tom can be a pervy thing, of course. It can be. I would say it is exclusively a pervy thing. Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:31:03 What's a non-pervy example of peeping Tom? Well, you've just never been curious about how other people live when they think they're not being loved. I'm not saying it's me. Jason's very online. That's why he knows more about being a peeping Tom than we do. He's read up on being a peeping Tom. He knows all of the ways you can be. And it's not one thing. Being a peeping Tom can be many things
Starting point is 01:31:28 Yeah You can be a peeping Tom And peep on many different things or people Yeah you know A college friend you may be Tom Ripley this guy I met And he seems really interested In my life
Starting point is 01:31:43 I don't know what's going on. I have a literal peeping Tom. We're going out on a rowboat later. Just check some stuff out. We'll see what happens. There's that radio voice again. It is the perfect amount of time. This exists the perfect
Starting point is 01:32:01 amount of time too. It is just long enough where you get a nice like it but it's not doesn't overstay its welcome yeah so like sometimes some years you're gonna miss it which is nice again haunted mansion holiday it's so long you're not missing haunted mansion holiday if you're going a couple times a year and i well i like that thing i continue to agree it's it's a little bit long and Yeah. Yeah, it feels a little, I think I like something that plays a little hard to get. Yes. Like, see me if you can.
Starting point is 01:32:28 If not. Monsters After Dark, I feel like even runs longer. I feel like that one runs closer to two months. But this thing runs like a little over a month? Like, it had just,
Starting point is 01:32:41 or it was just opening when I was there, like mid-November. So it's like six weeks. Yeah, mid-November to January 8th, I think is when the holiday stuff wraps up. Oh, does it go that long? It probably ends the day before our passes are good again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:00 So we are exactly boxed out. Fuck with us. We will not see this. But you got to see. You got to see. You were in the... Yeah, yeah. So I will get exactly boxed out of fuck with us we will not see this but you got to see you got to say with you you are in the yeah so i will get to at the end of yes you can do it it's i don't think there's anything we're barred from seeing the tree is up but we went twice and that second november trip was to make up for the december trip we wouldn't be taking that is where they're headed you're gonna have to start doing like there'll be like certain price tiers like okay well with the with imagine key you don't get to look at the matterhorn we've now we've retina scanned you you have to have done a retina scan
Starting point is 01:33:36 to get a magic key and like uh yeah no okay well like there look there are unfortunately blackout pirates there are a number of pirates throughout the attraction who you don't get to see. But you get to see a few at the beginning, one in the middle, and then a couple, you know, 60% into the ride. And then nothing for the last five minutes. But the people with the top-tier pass get to see all of them, you're saying? For now. For now. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Until the $400 Redna add-on. Yeah. Because you're going to want to guarantee okay until the 400 written to add on yeah yeah because you're gonna want to guarantee your path to seeing every pirate yeah with the keys these i did you joke but these sort of thoughts i've been having a lot in the wake of the last few weeks as certain things accelerate toward their inevitable end and that is. Well, that was a heavy way to put it. Well, that's all. No, we can't. Not an hour and a half. I can't get into what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:34:31 I mean, you know what I'm talking about. Hey, cheer up. Come on. I was trying to say a happy 2025 to y'all. It's me. Baby New Year. Oh, okay. That's something that happens in there.
Starting point is 01:34:41 We get a little baby New Year. Well, that's it. Yes. Baby New Year. Jason's favorite character in fiction. I would imagine. I am changing from my long, typical podcasting beard to my little sash and diapy. The face Scott made when he said diapy.
Starting point is 01:34:57 I'm back, baby. That is kind of a universal, like the old year leaving, the new year beginning. You don't have to defend it. Jason, that was not what my harumph noise was about. It was less about the concept of baby new year and more about the word diapy.
Starting point is 01:35:14 You were wearing the diapy. You're worried about the universality of my references. I think I nailed this one. That one, not an issue yes uh certainly you're reacting to the reference to baby new year and not the joke about me stripping my clothes away in front of you and putting on a diaper little being said right before no years of stage acting
Starting point is 01:35:40 taught me to have one costume on under the other so the diapy is ready to go so you're wearing it already yeah what he's this is a long way for him to tell us that he's currently wearing a little diapy i'm a diapy boy um uh in all seriousness i think a thing that i really like about this ride that uh i think works well on an attraction in Florida, the Space Mountain at Christmas, where they just pummel you with music and blinking green and red lights. There's so much Christmas stuff in this. And granted, it's Christmas around the world,
Starting point is 01:36:17 but it's just like you're getting hit with Christmas carols and lights and decorations and stuff. Pummeled. You're being pummeled. You're being pummeled. With Christmas. So, like... You know what? I feel like it has just, like... carols and lights and decorations and stuff you're being pummeled you're being pummeled christmas so like it's yeah you know what i feel like it has just like i think it it sort of filled a void that disneyland had which is the need to just have christmas the ride that's sort of what this is i guess that's true it just became like you know the like the dolls and everything in it uh like
Starting point is 01:36:43 all work and it's all complimentary but what it really is about is just like taking a boat past a bunch of christmas lights into a place to see more christmas stuff yeah and more winter stuff it's christmas the ride it's like a really it's pretty simple uh uh which in this and look in the spirit of holiday uh uh forgiveness and uh and in coming together this is something i haven't experienced this myself but you know i've i've been on the record about my feelings about living with the land but i like the feeling that i get from this christmas version i think i would like that the christmas version of living with the land because i think that would have the same thing of kind of
Starting point is 01:37:21 being christmas the ride it seems it seems neat to. I hope to do it in person at some point. We really should fly tomorrow or tonight to Orlando to do Pizza Rizzo and to do that Living with the Land holiday. Clock is ticking. Do we have any idea when it's going away? I don't know, but when they were talking about starting the Monsters, Inc. construction, it seemed like that was on a faster track.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Are we going to have to do a Pizza Rizzo episode without having eaten at pizza rizzo i'm worried that that might be the case i went i walked around i visited malia i but i didn't get to i like that really if really ultimately the food is part of it but maybe the food's not part of it i did like the little wedding banquet room a lot yeah i liked things that I saw. I really liked that. Yeah. We can't really do it. On Leader Jones 2,
Starting point is 01:38:08 Matt Cardona poo-pooed the pizza briefly. I bet. I bet. It's funny seeing stuff that I remember opening like 10 years ago,
Starting point is 01:38:19 like Pizza Rizzo or like the Hello Kitty store get flipped to Monsters, Inc. and the Wicked Center. Like it's very straight. It's like I feel like they built that out so much and then they're like we're putting in new stuff. They put all this money into transforming
Starting point is 01:38:35 the space and now they aren't holding the space. Ironically. I have if they said you'll have time to enjoy this before. Enjoy it in 2025 but i i don't know will will they will it last six months i don't know well all the more reason to light the fire to i was gonna say this at the wrap-up but my my new year's resolution get down to orlando well we've talked about we talked about it a couple episodes ago. Because there's a lot of stuff happening this year there.
Starting point is 01:39:07 And, of course, I mean the opening of John Taffer's Tavern in the I-Drive area. Do you think they would let us break a bottle of Taffer's brown butter bourbon on the building as it opens? Like it's a ship or christening a ship? Can we be the official inaugurators? We'll buy the bottle, too. He doesn't have to pay for it sure well he's not going to so i'm glad you said that if i buy the bottle that's money out of my pocket we can do pour like some cream soda in there you know we don't have to actually he just has to look like it was his bourbon yeah he doesn't have to actually be i also think i could probably like you know buy some
Starting point is 01:39:45 other i still i'm still carrying around that sticky bottle oh yeah it exploded in vegas that we offered to the i think we had with griffin i offered it to james adomian who seemed rightfully disgusted by the idea yeah it's still kicking around my house i'm gonna have to this is becoming a real i don't know that that bourbon can turn like sandwiches, but it is very much a Homer and the Big Sandwich situation. This thing just gets grosser and grosser by the day. But I could fill it up with other whiskey, reseal it, and use that to break the. Well, on the second gate, Jason has said he's not enjoying expired food like he used to.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Well, now, hold up. Your greatest joys are disappearing. I know, I've had to make a lot of lifestyle changes in the last year plus. If you think that I'm going to burn any time here on getting the giant sandwich and saving it, yes, this is Club 3
Starting point is 01:40:40 business. That's going to be on the paywall. Yeah. Do we have other Christmas stuff? Because I have a little small world thing that's going to go out on. Let's cover Christmas. It's not quite Christmas oriented. That's why it's hard. I wish there was like a comprehensive list of everything because I'm sure there's like invisible stuff
Starting point is 01:40:56 even that I'm not noticing or making the lights brighter or more aggressively Christmas or holiday. Which 18, I felt like I would have been like, oh, a week. You could do this in a week, right? I don't know if there's other stuff I'm not even thinking about,
Starting point is 01:41:09 but luxurious gets longer than I had for the movie. Well, I was going to say, yeah. I hear 18 days. My head spins. I think with this and Hornet Mansion, they had to preserve a lot of the original stuff. It's so old at this point. You mean so they don't-
Starting point is 01:41:24 They got to tiptoe that's why it takes so long they have to go boom boom boom boom boom do not knock the serpent so it's all doll number five in india you don't think somebody's fallen over and crushed one of the dolls like oh no turn it around i've got face wall. And then, yeah, they just find a basketball or something and paint a face on it, or a volleyball, like Wilson. They paint a volleyball, stick it on the little kid's head, and nobody's going to notice it's a stylized face. We got any rides with pigs in it?
Starting point is 01:41:58 Just grab a pig, paint it skin color, and throw it on there. 50,000 bulbs I saw. Yes, yes. That's another little fact. Do you have any more facts? Do you remember any facts? I don't have any more facts. I kind of settled my facts.
Starting point is 01:42:13 I mean- Facts. Christmas is beloved all the world round. Yeah. That is a fact, yes. Christmas season is a time for caring. Fact. There was a weird thing that I was looking at some website where they were like, here's
Starting point is 01:42:24 some 10 facts about Haunted Mansion. A small holiday and like most of them aren't even facts it's like it's good and you're like oh yeah that is i guess it is yeah that's a that's a trick listicle that's a tricksticle it is a trick yes it was a trick arbitrarily made into 10 it's like this is like number nine it's like it's all about the small details and one of the first rooms representing the northern region pay close attention to all the subtle festival details again. This isn't really a fact. My favorite is the mailbox with letters to Santa and a silhouette of the man himself in the window situated behind a little furry friend with a paddle. What?
Starting point is 01:42:57 What? What? Yeah. What do you guys know what that means? And I got a paddle some animal. Well, or is the animal the one with the paddle? I don't know. Wait, say the sentence again.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Let's really think about our conjugation here. Okay. My favorite is the mailbox with letters to Santa and a silhouette of the man himself in the window situated behind a little furry friend with a paddle. Behind. So Santa's behind. Does the furry friend have the paddle pointed at Santa's front?
Starting point is 01:43:26 Or is it Santa who has the paddle and he is behind? I thought it was the furry friend was in front of the house is how I took that. A silhouette of the man himself in the window situated behind a little furry friend with a paddle. What's a furry friend? What kind of... Yeah, does Santa have like a furry friend historically? I don't think so. He has Mrs. Claus.
Starting point is 01:43:51 He has Rudolph. Rudolph isn't furry, though. He's a reindeer. When we're combining... Okay, we're combining furries and paddles. Jason, I'm not online enough. What is it? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:00 I'm thrown. Is it just an Easter egg of Tiptoe the Blue Reindeer, the Macy's mascot? But does Tiptoe the Blue Reindeer from Macy's have a paddle? Does it wield a paddle? It has a walking parade float. Yeah, but I want to- We don't have, it's a shame. I think we already set our Christmas lineup, but learning about the original character,
Starting point is 01:44:23 Tiptoe the Blue Re blue reindeer that they're trying to get inception into us that like this is a guy well they did work you love it huh they incepted you i'm bringing up tiptoe on this i think i saw a lot of people going what the fuck is this i didn't i didn't remember tiptoe but it worked on you yeah you go to sleep dreaming about tiptoe now and macy's great stock and return policies well you always go to sleep dreaming about tiptoe now and macy's great stock and return policies well you always go to sleep thinking about macy's return policy let's be honest oh my god another reshoot on the movie guys i gotta get out of here visions of let just let me do my episode visions of hassle-free returns floating in his head.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Okay, I'm looking at a still from the video of this. Of Tiptoe? I see, no. Oh, okay. You wish. No, I see it's a silhouette of Santa. And there's maybe like, I don't see a paddle. I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 01:45:19 What's the paddle? I don't know. I see no furry friend with a paddle. This is a Rorschach test now. We're looking at a silhouette. I don't see a furry friend in a paddle. This is a Rorschach test now. We're looking at a silhouette. I don't see a furry friend in a paddle. I guess this is an article from last year, so perhaps the paddle's gone. This is from 2024. What's to the left of Santa in that silhouette?
Starting point is 01:45:35 Is that his hand? I don't know. Or is that a candle? It looks to me like he's holding a wishbone. Is it a ping pong paddle? Is it a ping pong paddle? Oh, is it a pickleball paddle? I hear that's really growing in popularity.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Is Santa playing pickleball up at the North Pole? Maybe. Are there enough human beings to play? I guess he could play with the elves. A little friend with a paddle. A little friend with a paddle. I mean, what even character has a paddle? Now I'm looking at 2023.
Starting point is 01:46:02 I see no paddle. What is this? Wait, wait wait wait stop everything i got it this is what they mean there's a little it has it has nothing to do with santa there's a little white cub some kind of like a polar bear like polar bear cub who is on a paddle as if on a kayak that's what it is the santa thing was confusing. What we're looking at is Santa's house, and then separately in front is a cute little bear in a kayak. They are not in the same room.
Starting point is 01:46:32 Santa is not ominously hanging out behind. You were trying to, okay, okay. I was saying like, oh, look for this, and then look behind it. Okay. Oh, geez. Well, I skipped too far ahead in the video. Yes, all right.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Because when you said that sentence, I pictured that like, I don't know, some kind of a pest got into the house or that Santa has changed his mind about a pet that he got once or is particularly mad at the reindeer this year. as we've said in the past, he has come with a paddle for their ass. Right, like tell me for Tita. Santa's gonna do something really bad with this paddle to a little furry creature who I don't think had it coming. Oh, I thought the creature was gonna nail Santa with it. Oh, you took it a whole other way. Yeah, I took it the other way. There's some kind of like revenge fantasy happening. I thought that was gonna be the impetus for Red One.
Starting point is 01:47:22 They had to rescue Santa from this unhinged little creature who's taking him captive. There's some sort of little gremlin or some kind of freak reindeer went into the fly machine, some sort of freak creature who has somehow gotten loose in Santa's house, got a hold of a paddle,
Starting point is 01:47:38 and now he's going to go buck wild on Santa's butt. Jason, what animal would you want to get a paddle from? Which animal would you want to take a paddle to your ass? Are you saying do I want a strong animal or do I want a weak animal to run? Up to you.
Starting point is 01:47:56 I don't know, like a baby goat would probably be cute. All trying to manage a paddle. Anthropomorphic or regular with just a paddle in its mouth? I think either. Yeah, but that's a big difference. Oh paddle? Anthropomorphic or regular with just a paddle in its mouth? I think either. Yeah, but that's a big difference. Oh, yeah. Anthropomorphic, it can curse at me and swing.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Yeah. Well, I didn't say it'd speak English. Swing. I guess baby goat then. Okay. That would just be cute. It'd be cute and I could put my hands on my hip and go like, come on, really? But I mean, look, it wouldn't hurt too bad because you would have the diapy on.
Starting point is 01:48:34 Yeah. It would be like a little padding. Yeah, diapy provides padding. Diapy's got padding. It's what it is. It's literally what it is. It's padding. Yeah, it's padding.
Starting point is 01:48:40 But meant to be padding for- It's meant to be padding the other way, not padding for a paddle. Right. Not paddle padding. Well, WDW Magazine had written a confusing article. Let's just put it that way. I can't imagine confusing clickbait trickstacles coming from online Disney. Well, this is what got us into the mess that Eisner is the golfer and then the still unproven fans thing.
Starting point is 01:49:02 I'd love to figure out the fans thing this year. And I still can't find it. Or next year, 2025 year 2025 i still can't find the thing that was new this year that was not the snowman so that is that's why we're gonna have to do another one i guess so i guess well here's what i'm wondering is should i burn how deep are we in now should i burn my last little thing what's that almost two hours just a little under yeah um to you i'll say i'll say it fast okay yeah i was because i was in the small world holiday section of the wikipedia which brought me towards the bottom of the small world wikipedia which had a little section about small world in other media and it brought up uh in this section i saw a reference to uh a small world
Starting point is 01:49:43 movie that was planned but not made in the 1970s. Oh, interesting. And I'm going to read you this as copy-pasted straight out of the Wikipedia. Okay. Although this might necessitate, maybe we do need Small World Holiday 2 or Small World 3. Whoa. John Cassavetes was planning a devastating look into the lives of the people around the world. If Disney was going to finance a Cassavetes, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Yeah. No, here we go. In the 1970s, a planned feature film was going to be a Cold War-tinged comedy adventure where the children of UN leaders try to get their parents to stop squabbling through faking mass kidnapping. Oh my God. Only for a war profiteer to try to take advantage of the fear and start a mass conflict. Whoa. What? It's a small world.
Starting point is 01:50:35 The movie. Fake kidnapping and war profiteering. What the fuck? What? Disney made movie? No, it wasn't made. Okay. But it says planned.
Starting point is 01:50:46 But Disney was going to make it, I'm saying. Well, I think that might be too strong. That might be further than it ever got. I started exploring, like, what is the source on this? And I clicked, and the source was Jim Hill Media. Interesting. This was a Jim Hill thing. This is something he published in 2003.
Starting point is 01:51:01 And he published it because he seemingly knows the person who had this idea. This was a movie pitch by a guy named Larry Pontius. He was VP of marketing for the U.S. Parks in the 1970s. And Jim Hill goes into further detail about what this pitched 1970s It's a Small World the movie was going to be. So let me weave the tale here really quick before we go. All right. So to set the uh uh tensions are high internationally uh it was the 1970s you see uh only somewhat after the cold war so uh a nine-year-old russian boy is captured and detained
Starting point is 01:51:38 by the chinese a russian boy just goes into china just to like look around and make some friends and china says no get out of here. You know, flares up the conflicts between the countries. Big news story, international incident. And this is the dream of a true villain named Alexander Bashillion. He is a despotic leader of a made-up country, maybe Krakow from the terminal something like that russia-esque um and uh his sole export is munitions that's all that's what he lives for is to sell weapons he alexander basilian lives for war you see so uh uh you know he's gonna he's gonna use this to stoke
Starting point is 01:52:20 international fears uh but there's one group of people who doesn't like any of this. And that is the kids of all the UN ambassadors because they all go together to one UN elementary school, you see? And even, yes, you know, the UN kids all go to the same school. Yeah, you got it. You're with me. And they all get along great.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Not like us adults with all of our weird fear mongering and overthinking. You know, kids speak the international language of love. They all get along great not like us adults with all of our weird fear-mongering and overthinking you know kids speak the international language of love they all get along so the kids of the un ambassadors they all hatch a plan they say i know how to make everybody get along in the world again we'll pretend that we got kidnapped and then everybody will have to unite to come find us what without why without us plucky kids uh what are we good like uh how can the un possibly move forward um so they do that they go hide somewhere all the one kid from every nation noah's ark situation they all disappear and this becomes a much bigger story than the
Starting point is 01:53:20 one russian boy who got captured so that story gets wiped out mission accomplished so the kids have reminded everybody what's important not so because evil alexander baschilian uh seizes on this and he says all those kids who got kidnapped that was the fault of russia and or china they took them so now what we need to do we need to have a war and also i'm gonna go uh kill all those kids. That's the story of It's a Small World, the movie. Oh, my God. A false kidnapping. One child from every country in the world all fake kidnaps themselves.
Starting point is 01:53:54 And then a mean man sets out to murder them. What? It's a small, small world. What the fuck? Isn't this real? I mean, it's too specific. It's got to be real some yeah but when i say when when when you read disney was developing this were they really because think about the story that i just read now now juxtapose that to what disney live action movies were like
Starting point is 01:54:17 in the 1970s this would have come out right between uh you know cat from outer space and candle shoe we would have had this movie about a false international kidnapping incident you know disney wanted just getting in on the paranoid thrillers of the seven parallax view three days of the condor and they're like we want to get in on that money train walker is wondering where's my three days of the con boy? I don't, this is such a bizarre premise. I mean, maybe it was developed and written, but then finally somebody went, wait, what? Because it was the 70s. They didn't quite have their handle on what they were supposed to be. Certainly, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:59 So maybe it did get written or developed. It's possible. Well, as Jim tells the story, a treatment for this was drafted and shown to then head of Disney, Card Walker. The feedback apparently was he literally rewrote on the treatment, interesting. And that might have been what happened. Maybe that is, yeah. But my question beyond that then is, okay, we're going to do It's a Small World, the movie. It is going to be a paranoia thriller made in the 1970s. Would they have just done this with a bunch of kind of like, you know, like a couple tears down from Jodie Foster, like kind of mophead kid actors, like those kind of bad musketeers from that 70s special?
Starting point is 01:55:42 Oh, yeah. Like, oh, gee, we we gotta kidnap ourselves but i gotta get home for dinner is it like to like a a billy moomy would have been too elevated for this maybe yeah too good yeah no this is like the third new mickey mouse club i think so he's all playing kids around it's a bunch of anonymous mop heads heads who all have to learn some accents that they probably can't. Sacre bleu! Alexander Bashillion wants us dead!
Starting point is 01:56:12 But then my further question was, and this is maybe still a question, if it was this or any story, if you were going to make It's a Small World the movie, would you do it with the dolls? You're saying me personally or just like what you would have to do it with the dolls, right? Well, I don't know if you'd have to.
Starting point is 01:56:30 It would be the scariest option. But just imagine a full movie with puppeted dolls kind of in the vein of Garbage Pail Kids. Oh, well, that's a different story. And it's genuinely scary. It's like, it's a living, it's like, you know, let's say Michael Caine is playing Alexander Bashillion. Like, I'll have my way with you, I will. See, I was going to say Don Knotts is Alexander Bashillion. Oh, well, now we're talking.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Fred McMurray is the heroic american ambassador tone is important because there are old movies that are like light and fun but they're if you really analyze what's happening it's a attempted child kidnapping child murder like there are i could maybe see this is a little heavier than normal movie i'm talking about but well but like the old days you know the beethoven films i'm probably thinking about because disney stapled dean jones is in them the first one is like a bunch of needles are going to go into a kidnapped dog and the next one beethoven rescues his owner from a rape situation yes this is some very heavy yes subject matters right so yes it, yes, maybe on paper
Starting point is 01:57:45 they didn't think. Okay. Or in pitch they didn't think, oh, this may be a little too much. But in the way that some people say,
Starting point is 01:57:52 like, oh, the last unicorn or bed knobs and broomsticks, like, there's some unsettling elements. Yeah. Well, they would have
Starting point is 01:58:00 had to use, yeah, the 70s dolls, though, they would have had to use, like, 70s technology to make puppet dolls. That's what I'm, if this had gotten made, just imagine, you know, and we've been glorifying the Eisner era, but if, and that's where all the crazy stuff came from, but if this one is squeaked through,
Starting point is 01:58:15 we could today watch It's a Small World, the movie, and it's about, like, a rifle is being held to the temple of a little small world doll. There's a little Russian doll cowering next to a little Iceland doll. I can imagine, yeah. Please, please. But don't you realize, as much as we share, it's time we're aware. It's a small world after all. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:58:46 I never thought of it that way. What have I become? I'm a munitions-loving monster. And then he takes his own life. The blood splattering all over all of the Dolphins. Don nuts. Geez, I'm a monster, I tell you. I don't deserve to live.
Starting point is 01:59:12 No, Don. oh geez i'm a monster i tell you i don't deserve to live no don wait you can change you can change mr nods they left it in it doesn't matter it's the 70s uh man that's really if only huh if only we could get a blu-ray of that this holiday season could we get jim just to like do does he have like just a list of everything that was in development from 1970 to 19 just yeah imagine all the movies didn't get made yeah and we just said on when jess was on because she was talking about various projects and development at Disney, all the money they've spent not making every ride into a movie or TV show. I would love to hear, because there's probably been several rounds
Starting point is 01:59:51 of every single one of these. Every single one of them. Yeah. Yes. And I would be interested, is it probably picked up in the last 20 years? But I bet still before that, obviously we hear Small World in the 70s.
Starting point is 02:00:04 Never heard this one, right? That's new to me. Yeah. In the 1970s, they tried to develop the Main Street Omnibus into a movie. Then you read the treatment. Page one. The Omnibus crashes. Glass flies everywhere.
Starting point is 02:00:19 No survivors. The Omnibus at the time was carrying one child of everyone in the un delegation a child from every nation in the world was slaughtered at the hands of a broken omnibus starring donuts oh god i was too drunk to drive the omnibus i don't deserve to live someone got the brakes well if only you know it's uh it's it's not a world where you have a great film like that but it is a world where a podcast toast can come back from a big crazy adventure and reconvene with his with his podcast pals it's been a pleasure guys i've you know what i've missed you it's been nice to be back i'm glad i I slotted in right before. Great to have you. Yes. Thanks, thanks. Welcome back again.
Starting point is 02:01:07 And again, this may have already been said several times. You may have already heard a future welcoming. But for now, we all survived Podcast The Ride. Main feed, 2024. What a year. A host departure. All that D23 betting nonsense. the uh the the the orlando saga was this year my god yeah did we do that i think i i believe we did it's hard to remember uh it was
Starting point is 02:01:37 several can i say it several children ago for me in my mind since we did that i was thinking like oh and that like I city walk is going to change so much in the next five years I have a feeling we just I'm glad we did it to wrap up this version of it I'm just saying but I in my mind
Starting point is 02:01:54 since we finished that city walk shouldn't change it should stay the same as it was when we did the sagas yeah fan any respect for our our great classic work but I think it I think the Tolstoy of great classic work. But I think it will. The Tolstoy of the podcast.
Starting point is 02:02:07 That's what I think, yeah. But no, it's going to change and hotels will come. You're saying we're going to have to go. No, the hotels are very exciting, but I'm just like, we're going to have to cover it in some way. I don't know, but it doesn't, didn't we say it? We did it already, right? It's not up to us, ultimately. It's really a matter of if we get contacted by a ghost or by a guy who's out in the world
Starting point is 02:02:31 who resembles a ghost. Well, I don't know what. Or whatever strange mechanism will cause us to have to go review a cafe in a hotel. Yeah, I know. Well, we'll see. In what year will that occur? I don't know. But 2025 is ahead of us.
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