Podcast: The Ride - Jimmy Neutron's Nicktoon Blast with Henry Gilbert

Episode Date: May 22, 2026

2000s Nicktoon icon Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius once starred in a ride at Universal Studios Hollywood, right where Despicable Me Minion Mayhem sits today. Other classic Nick...toons pop up too. The graphics were bad. But hey, Henry Gilbert (Talking Simpsons) returns to talk inventor boys, weird early-2000s CGI, and some fun Japan theme park stuff!"Marfalump" episode is up at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:05 A massive lizards gaping mouth. And a despised late series baby edition. All that plus, Henry Gilbert returns to talk Jimmy Neutron's Nicktoon blast on today's podcast, The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride. The show where before every recording, I yell, got a blast. No one likes it. I'm Jason Sharden.
Starting point is 00:01:50 That laugh is Mike Carlson. Yeah, I am here. Got a blast can mean, I guess, a couple things, really. I guess it's pretty open-ended. It doesn't necessarily mean one thing or the other. To me, it means, like, I got to rip a big fart. Yeah, that's true. Was that what you were thinking when you said?
Starting point is 00:02:06 Well, no, this is the fun of playing in the fields of ambiguity, as I said. Dear boy. Before, dear boy, yes. If you wouldn't mind saying some of your famous characters lines. Horny Moriarty. That was the character we named you a couple weeks ago. Horny Moriarty. Yeah, Horny Moriarty.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Some Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes. Moriarty was a bit of a cat, so I feel like that's inherent in his character. Was Moriarty? There's been different interpretations of it. Which one was the horniest of all the different... I would say, I would guess probably Andrew Scott. Okay. Played him.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Maybe. I'm not a Sherlock Holmes expert. I like the idea of it. I like the idea of making jokes about it, but I really have not watched much or read much. Yeah. I'm a bad reader. Anyway, Scott Garner is not... Not here, but he'll be here very soon. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:56 He said he had to take a phone call and he ran out of the room. I don't know that this has ever happened in the history of the show. This could also be a bit. Is he setting up a bit? Is it a bit? I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think maybe it was just some sort of important phone call.
Starting point is 00:03:08 I don't think he'd pull a bit with a guest here. I don't think you would do that to our guests. Okay. Well, our guests could weigh in on if he thinks it's a bit or not. It didn't feel like a bit. But anyway, you go ahead. Sure. It's returning to the show from Talking Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:03:21 It's Henry Gilbert. Hello, and I came here with my pet dog, Goddard, to help me out. Yes, people don't know how big of a fan of a certain topic today you are, but that's how big. Well, Mike, you thought that Moriarty was just a character on Star Trek, right? Oh, yeah, as far as I knew, that was just a holodeck character. Any historical reference or literary reference that was on Star Trek, I just assume, was created by the writers of Star Trek. That's how dumb I am. It's how stupid I am.
Starting point is 00:03:50 No, I also think of Moriarty as his character in the Allenmore comic, A League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. There he is a real, like, jerk in that he, like, he calls Sherlock Holmes a saddabyte to remember of that. Oh, really? Yes, yeah. Okay. So is that, and that's just sort of the way he talks, but he's not, is he sort of an Austin Powers type character in that? Or does he ever say, like, do I make you hony, baby? I think he's played pretty straight in it, I think.
Starting point is 00:04:20 It's the cute trick in the first league of Extraordinary Gentlemen is that it keeps being a reference to, and I'm spoiling the first six issues of the comic guys. Okay, it's okay. They're playing like it's a James Bond thing, and they're like, oh, we're bossed around by M. M is the one in charge, and you think it's a, you know, a reference to the James Bond's boss. But actually the M stands for Moriarty, and he's actually the one running, the evil guy behind the scenes tricking the league. Oh, okay. Doing bad deeds. See, that sounds cool and fun and exciting and twisty, but it doesn't sound horny enough, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I hate to critique Mr. Moore's work. There is some horny stuff in those very dry comics. Oh, yes. It was beautifully drawn sometimes exciting, but often very dry. And let's not forget the interminable text pieces at the back of every issue. Yes. If you had trouble with the text pieces in Watchmen, times that by four. and that's what's in league of Extraordinary Channel.
Starting point is 00:05:19 You know, I've never read it, and I am a comic book reader, but not often a novel reader, not a long-form fiction reader. So what you're telling me is I shouldn't read this because it's too hard. Okay, got it. I would say of the Allemore America's Best Comics line, top 10, is probably the most, like, reader-friendly. Top-10 or Tom Strong? Right.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Well, I'm not getting into those anytime soon. Okay. But maybe years for down the line. If you like police procedural, top-10 is a fun one of those. Yes. And if you like Gnostic Magic, explain to you very slowly on gorgeous line art, read Promethia. Yeah, also pretty impenetrable, but beautiful. Are you two guys right now trying to make Scott kick in the door and say, give me back my podcast with all this comic book talk?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Because that's what it feels like where there's like a test going on to see how long we can keep Scott just like one ear to the door out there. I don't know. Now I feel like you're all in on something and I'm not in on it. That's what I'm feeling now. I'm feeling crazy. That's okay. You'll get it on these 25-year-old comics, many of them out of print and difficult to find. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Well, as long as that will eventually happen. But Henry, let's talk real quick because we are going to talk about Jimmy Neutron and his very, I guess, long-running ride. I would say that eight years or so is a long-running ride. But you did, you've done some Japan traveling. And I did want to, like, talk about some highlights. Because anytime anyone's going to Japan, we want to hear about Japan because, we only want to be in Japan. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I'm just listening to Nick Weiger talk about, on multiple podcasts going to Japan, hearing him talk about it, I was like, I want to be in Japan right now, doing stuff. I know. And I, my husband and I, we're a big theme park people, and I think last time I was on here, we went to the Pride Night at Disneyland.
Starting point is 00:07:09 We were talking about that. So we have maxed out like Tokyo Disneyland. Like we have done, we went to Fantasy Springs and did that, and we went to Universal Springs, Orlando for the, we went to Universal Osaka for the first time, this last fall. And that was awesome. Like, it was so cool to see all the stuff like locked in time, like the Beetlejuice ride. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Or not ride, the song and dance. So the Rock. Yeah. The graveyard review. And then we went, but we also wanted to do a lot of stuff like that is slightly off the beaten path. We went to, I'm wearing a hat from it right now from Dragon Quest Island. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:07:48 It's a very understated hat. But basically, there's about an hour out of Osaka's is a city of Kobe. And in Kobe, they have, there's been this thing happening in Japan of like for big tax breaks, I think. They take old parks that people are barely going to. Okay. Oh, stop everything. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I'm here. I'm here. Oh, my God. Not a bit. Okay. No, not a bit. Yeah. Hey.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Hey. Hey. Thanks for being here, guys. say regular guys, hi. Sorry, I don't like to do that. It was very important. I was getting a call from my agent, and I didn't mean for that to take precedent over this,
Starting point is 00:08:27 but I'll let you guys and the listener know first that I got the call. I got the gig. I will be directing Propeller One Way Night Coach 2. The sequel, I'm making the sequel to John Travolta's film for which he would just want an honorary, Palm Door It's his very personal story about a boy and his precious
Starting point is 00:08:51 first flight and falling in love with airplanes for the first time and I'm going to make the movie about the second flight. Wow. So yeah, there's just so much buzz. John just, and I've been meeting with John, he feels just like too attached to it. He's just, oh, I should have, let me fill it in,
Starting point is 00:09:06 Trevolta. Yeah, okay. I don't mean to be all name dropy, Henry, but we're getting to be buddies and I've been helping him, I've been giving him hair, advice of an open and pick out wigs. And yeah, because he reversed,
Starting point is 00:09:19 he's not pitbulling it anymore. Right. You told him put the wig back. He's back to hair. I'll admit it. That's that kind of boldness of vision is what helped me get the job. But I think he feels like it's just too personal for him to like it's so emotional. He cried so much making the first propeller one-way night coach that he doesn't feel
Starting point is 00:09:40 like it's too raw for him to make propeller one-way night coach too. So I'm going to take it. over for you. Well, congrats. Sorry, oh, I don't mean to be so Hollywood. Okay, what did I, what did I walk in to? Well, we were just talking about Japan. Henry's been to Japan. Oh, excellent. He was telling a story about going to certain out-of-the-way place, or not the standard places. No, there's, well, there is like, congratulations, Scott. Thank you for acknowledging. I was, I was waiting. I was like, I don't know if I want to shift back to Japan until I've gotten the firm congratulations. But there are, there is like this government, I think, push to have. there be more tourist spots outside of Tokyo. And so like a bunch of stuff keeps opening up in the last like five, six years.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Like have you guys heard about like the Pokemon Park that just opened up? Yes. Yeah, they take these big old parks that have were like built in like the 60s or 70s that were kind of being underused. And so then the government, I think, through some substance disease, works with these big IPs and fills them with like themed stuff. And so in Kobe on Awaji Island, there's a place called Nijen Nomori, which I think means
Starting point is 00:10:48 two-dimensional park, and it's filled with mascot characters or two-dimensional forest. And so I went to the two things I did that I would say people should definitely check out if you've ever played
Starting point is 00:10:59 a Dragon Quest RPG or Final Fantasy or any like Japanese RPG, there's like an escape room type deal that you're basically like walking around a whole like town from Dragon Quest and figuring things out and finding secrets
Starting point is 00:11:13 and getting in combat. And you have a boss fight. And they have theme food. And then I did Shin Godzilla Zipline. I never did a Zipline before. And it is specifically the Godzilla from the Shin Godzilla movie from 2016. It's his head built full size. His head is just in the ground.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And you zip line into his mouth across the thing. And then you get like a laser gun to zap, like basically a laser tag gun and zap things. Like, okay, destroy. You actually get a story, a themed story of... On a zip line? Well, after the zip line, get off... But that kicks you off to the adventure? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:52 They go like, now that you've ziplined in, grab your gun, and shoot all the last remaining particles of Godzilla. Wow, wow, that's awesome. Shoot his nuts. Make sure he can't reproduce. Yeah. The photos are bonkers of this. I don't, I mean, what I imagine was cool,
Starting point is 00:12:08 but this is probably twice as cool, because it's such an extreme aggressive. version of Godzilla. It is scary. I had never done a zip line before either, so it was extra scary for me. I don't know if any of you guys have ever done it. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I don't think. There was like a really, really little kid version of it at a Pirates Cove Park, but it wasn't like a full, like attached. It was like a, I forget what it was. It was some really, really low, not low rent, but just like very low stakes. I would do it with the Godzilla, I think,
Starting point is 00:12:39 because I want to go in his mouth. And I got to get themed food of like, it was like curry shaped like curry with rice shaped like mothra. That was a lot of fun too. Oh, wow. That's great. You sort of have an opportunity here in a way to be the first person to address ziplines. That was one approach here. This could have been the episode
Starting point is 00:12:58 Ziplines. Oh, yeah. What is your, you know, we've talked about degrees of scarity catness. I don't know. Do you think we're equipped for ziplines? Or are they sort of nothing? Well, you know what? Once it's over, it did feel like nothing. But when you're at the front of it about to be like shoved off, it does feel just a little like, well, there's just these two cables here. And I hope this place is run. I say if this was versus a zip line in Las Vegas versus in Japan, I trust Japan has better safety standards than an American one.
Starting point is 00:13:34 To the Fremont Street zip line. Which is, to tie it all together, is called Slotzilla. strangely. So the two zip lines that we can conjure very quickly are both Godzilla related in some way. I think the Godzilla theming ends there. In fact, I'm not sure I understand the name Slotzilla beyond that. I thought they had a giant slot machine like art piece down there that was called Slotzilla.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I think, though, that the Zipline is part of that. I think what you're describing might be the tower from which you depart for your Zipline adventure. This is underneath the can. canopy at the Fremont Street experience. Correct. This came up on the episode we just did in the second gate about the earth part, whatever the hell that park that never got built was, that one company that was putting designs together did Slotzilla.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Oh, yes. Yeah. Well, that's, I don't know if that's a feather in their cap. I looked to see what else they did, and it seems like mainly Slotzilla was the output. You might need a little bit more. The pictures looked nice for whatever Earth Quest. I can't remember what it was. It was an Earthquest thing.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I believe so. The zip line, though, what? The scariest part for me was at the end of it. It was like, oh, how do you stop? And that was, at least at this one, I can't speak for all zip lines. You end up, it's like you're going between two platforms. But the last platform, you basically, I overshoot the platform as part of it. So you swing over just open nothing as you're stopping.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And so for a second, you do think like, oh, I died. I'm about to find. And then you swing back and then hook. you and everything's fine. But that was the scariest part of it, I'd say. Is it also like that's not in a city that's like a little adventure outside? Oh, yeah, yeah. This is in this big, huge park that the only downside of these parks.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And I went to like three others is they all close at like five, between five and six. Like when the sun is down, it's over. Like they don't have any indoor stuff. Well, they're like, I should get back to the city so that I have something to do. And also they have like, okay, the last bus, right? Like we had to run, we did Godzilla, and then we're like, okay, we got to eat. And then I was like, wait, the last bus is leaving like in five minutes. We got to go now or else we're going to have to like call a lift in, calling a lift in Japan.
Starting point is 00:15:52 They only just recently opened them up and they are like triple price there. Whoa, whoa. This is legit good travel info, which I feel maybe we're not always so good at providing them the shit. So I'm glad you're giving some good intel. If you feel fair to defend that point. I guess you're right. I suppose. I feel like there'll be like tips and tricks
Starting point is 00:16:10 or something once in a while. Maybe you actually just like menu suggestions. Oh, sure. Like film strip fries were good. It's yeah. Well, it's mainly if you were traveling, it's good advice if you were traveling seven years ago. Yeah, there's a lot of that on this show.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Yeah. Film strip fries were good. And in a similar park I went to was Jibli Park in Adachi, which is about 90 minutes between, it's like right between Tokyo and Kyoto on the train, on the bullet train. And it's, Jibli Park is another of those. It's like a gigantic park. They opened up like there's a, they call it the warehouse.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So I'm not degrading it, calling it a warehouse. But they have a gigantic indoor warehouse where they rebuilt just like multiple streets and locations from the films. And you can see like, oh, you know, take pictures with full recreations of scenes from not just like Kiki's delivery service or Toto. but also from like the wind rises or ocean waves. The antique shop from Whisper of the Heart. Yes, yes. Now that was the fun. So here's the thing I'll tell.
Starting point is 00:17:18 That one is if you are not in Japan, the only time you can get tickets to that is a month out for about one hour. Tickets are available and then they sell out. You have got to do it at like 5 p.m. Pacific time. And you can, you get it in slots. We got 11 a.m. as our entrance time, but it closes all the same at like five. We did not, when we left, we had like 90 minutes left, left the warehouse.
Starting point is 00:17:44 We're like, well, there's not that much outdoor right. And then we realized there are like five things outside, like the tootero house. We're like running to the tootero house, like a mile. And then do the totoro house. And then it's like, okay, we got to get to Kiki's Village. Get to Kiki's Village. Okay, all right. Like, it really was the cartman going through Kosovo Nita really fast.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Oh, yeah. Oh, wow, this house is a house. Okay. That looks cool. Okay, we got to see. Whisper of the Heart, I think it's up that hill. I'll do that. Black part's scary.
Starting point is 00:18:14 You can ride a real cat bus. Yes. Yeah, yeah. It has fun. It has a lot of fun stuff there that's like international too. You can actually get a picture in the cat bus, unlike at the Ghibli Museum in Tokyo where it's only kids who get to do it. Finally, adults can play on the cat bus.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah, we like that better. So it was like Very satisfying as a fan of those movies Oh big time And they have exclusive shorts They only show there When Miyazaki dies They'll probably release them officially somewhere
Starting point is 00:18:47 But he wants them only to be seen Oh they're exclusive Yeah Oh that's we like that Like there's like a 15 minute sequel to My Neighbor Totoro That you can only see Seasonally that is played there
Starting point is 00:18:58 I didn't hear about this at all Whoa Yeah it's like there's a dozen short films called I think they're just The Jibli Museum Short Short Short and they've been only played at jibbley museum at jibbley park and occasionally very rarely at like a film festival internationally they sometimes get played but they've never been released on physical media or anything wow wow so sort of uh you know very akin i'd say to shrek 4d yes you know there's a sequel too one of the great animated films that you only could see and and once in a baby a DVD release yeah and it's right up that i'd say the the the May and the kitten bus sequel to Totoro is the equal of Kung Fu Panda 4D. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. A must do. We're happy we got any time with you in person, that you aren't right up the hill seeing Kung Fu Panda 4D over and over. It's hard to resist. And the two other ones I want to mention real quick, I went to, I didn't even know there was like an equivalent of Universal Studios in Kyoto. but it's called and by that I mean the studio that like you visit like this was where things were filmed
Starting point is 00:20:09 and get to walk around it it's called Toe Kyoto Studios Park and it's been open since the 70s and it is where they like you get to walk through like here is a village that looks like you know 1800s or 1700s Japan where they filmed tons of period pieces there and also tons of cool stuff
Starting point is 00:20:30 from the Tokusatsu shows or the the Sentai Power Ranger shows like a film there and Common Writer, that series, it's filmed there. But the coolest part is that they have, I'm a big fan of the anime. Neon Genesis Evangelion. And they have a life-size Evangelion, but only from the waist up.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And it's posed with like its handout and you can like pose in its hand. And it even has a story of like, you've been recruited to be one of the new pilots. And here's your passcode and go to the top and sit in the seat and see if you test to be an Evangelian pilot. And basically you just sit in the seat that shakes and it blows air in your face
Starting point is 00:21:07 and it says how well you kept your eyes closed or not. I think it's how they measure it. But I passed and then spent about $200 on merchandise things. Wow. Is it all exclusive? I assume it's exclusive. Tons of exclusive stuff. Yeah. Did you account for that pre-trip
Starting point is 00:21:23 and no? Just like let's not pack a light necessarily, but like pack a make sure I got space here to come back with a load We put a suitcase inside a suitcase. Okay, okay, great. Yeah. What, uh, or you have one more thing to say, but I just real quick, merch, like in general, was what was the best thing you got?
Starting point is 00:21:40 Oh, boy. Best thing. Or a couple. You know, so many of things. Uh, well, the Nintendo store always has so many cool things in it, like, that are, they have a T-shirt. Oh, wait, actually, no. They had Calway Bebop t-shirt I got, which those rarely even get made, new ones.
Starting point is 00:21:58 They only make them for elderly anime millennials. But it came in a case that looks like a VHS case. So it's like, oh, do you remember buying this on VHS? Well, we put the T-shirt inside one-to-one recreation of the VHS box. Do they put dirty Suncoast movies price tags on the case? No, they take too good of care of their stuff. That's the problem, right? That's not the Japan experience.
Starting point is 00:22:26 That's it you can bring it home in America. When they mark down stuff as used, they're like, you know, it's like, oh, this one's half off because there's a little, like, scratch on the corner of this old, of this old magazine. Yeah. So we've marked it down by half price. We're so sorry. They apologize verbally to you, looking you in the eye, quite sorrowful. And they also have really cool, like, I mean, every collectible you could possibly want there. And it's easy to, when we were there, and I think it's still now, the exchange.
Starting point is 00:22:58 rate is tantalizingly good for Americans right now. It's like it used to be the standard you're supposed to think of is like 100 yen equals $1. So when you see something, you just move the decimal point over like this is 10,000 yen. That means it's $100. But actually, 10,000 yen is $70 now. Oh, wow. So when you see that, I'm like, oh, man, this used to be $100.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It's only $70. I got to buy it now. Definitely. It's much easier to talk yourself into it. I mean, because that rate already was good. It was good in 2019 when I went. And just what a nice breeze it is throughout your day. At the Disney parks, I guess I'm referring to,
Starting point is 00:23:37 or I mean anywhere in the magical city of Tokyo, but not only is everything so clean and nice and fun, but also cheaper that also like you're feeling value through it. Oh, it's just like it's oxygen with the brain, the entire day, week, whatever you're spending. Yeah, the Disney park is like $60 a day. Yes. And you can get even cheaper like, oh,
Starting point is 00:23:57 just going into evening ticket. Right, right. Yeah, it's, and you can just take a train directly there. You don't have to be stuck in traffic all day in there. It's just, yeah. And, and I, I did mention the Universal one because I heard you guys were confused by the One Piece stage show at Fan Fest. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I haven't gone to Fan Fest yet, but I, well, one of the reason we went to Universal Japan was to see the One Piece Stage Show there. Oh. It's an even bigger event there. It is a 90-minute stage show. Wow, is it that long? And they do it once a day. What if the world is 90 minutes in any theme park for any reason?
Starting point is 00:24:35 That's crazy. Whoa. It's at least an hour. I don't want to overstay it. It's at least an hour long. The Frozen show at California Venture was like an hour, I think. Maybe a little over an hour, which only ran for a couple years, if that. And then Aladdin was like 50 minutes, I think, before that.
Starting point is 00:24:50 And you have to buy your tickets in advance. Like, that too is we got to feel like the smart. tourist because me and my husband constantly were getting to places like Jibli Park or the one piece show and seeing other like a lot of Americans turned away who are like oh wow can I get a ticket to this
Starting point is 00:25:08 and they get told like well you had to buy a ticket a month ago like if you didn't buy a ticket a month ago you can't you can't go and meanwhile me and him get to smugly walk in like yeah we read the instructions online the rare Americans the dastardly guy Jin bought their
Starting point is 00:25:23 tickets a month ago and weave it in the others faces. Same of like at the Ghibli Museum. Like there are tons of people. I have seen more than one couple crying out at the front when they realize like, we can't just buy tickets on the day
Starting point is 00:25:40 like we came all this way. I was joking about mocking them, but I do feel bad for people who just assume it works like a museum where you show up and buy a ticket to go in. Everything is research now. You cannot assume anything.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Every. Anything. You can't assume anything. That's about everything in life. You've got to do research. Well, my husband is the, to use podcast the ride terminology, my husband is the master checker. And so that, the alpha checker. The alpha checker.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Sorry. And that trained us to be ready for how almost everything in Japan is like reservation a month ahead of time type deal. Yeah. Also good advice for anybody listening. He's planning a trip. That show is, one piece from your show is 80 minutes as well. Okay. Yeah, you're pretty close.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Which is 20 minutes longer than Propeller One Way Night Coach, Part 1, the pre-Scott Gardner version, 60-minute film that is apparently coming out in theaters. It is coming on theaters? I don't know. Maybe I'm reading. I think people are saying that it's not coming out of theaters
Starting point is 00:26:43 because it's only an hour long. Well, it should be. Well, mine will be. I'm going to get that in the deal. It's about as long as like a straight-to-VHS Disney sequel in the 90s. Yeah. With credit. Well, I want bloopers.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I want like. Well, of course we want bloopers. music videos over the credits. I mean, that's the Travolta staple. If Travolta is that a screening, we have to go to it. That's for sure. For sure. John's nice.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You'll like him. He's nice. Good dancer, too. The One Piece show in Japan, it's been, was neat to go to it for the first time last year because I'd always heard like there, you know, it was only made, you know, it's done in Osaka. It's for a Japanese audience. Like, they don't, they didn't expect it to be internationally successful because
Starting point is 00:27:22 it's a super fan show full of tons of fan service. ever said, even me, the person who's read every chapter of the One Piece comic, I was constantly like, wait, that is your character. I think I remember him. Like, I needed a wiki out to remember all the, like, niche characters they pull out for it. You don't remember at all 1,200 chapters. I know. And in multiple chapters, like, this is how many characters are in One Piece. Like, you think in like Dragon Ball, like, oh, one new guy showed up and let's learn his name. But most people are crews on a ship. So if a man. major character shows up, he's on a, he's on a, you know, his, his pirate ship with 12 other people
Starting point is 00:28:02 who are all named characters who have their own defined powers. And so it's like hundreds of characters. It's so dense. Can you give me an example of a character in the show and use like a comparison like, say Batman of like the type of obscure character you're talking about where it's like you've got to be this deep in? Okay. Is it even possible to do that? Yeah, I can, well, See, this is why I thread the needle between manga fan and American comic fan. So, yeah, I mean, in the Batman world, like, there's, so there's this character called Bartolomeo in One Piece, who's like he's Luffy's biggest fan, and he seems like he's a cool guy, but he's actually an annoying fanboy. And he's a really funny character who showed up, like, 17 years in. and I'd compare him to like the,
Starting point is 00:28:52 I'd say he's the KG Beast or like the Bain. You know what I even say? Bain's pretty big. Bain's too big. He's been in stuff. Okay, I'll stick with KG Beast. Like at 90s, a guy like a little bit into the series who just shows up to be like, oh, that guy's funny.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I like this guy. But it's like in, if you were seeing a Batman stunt show at Six Flies and like Condiment King showed up or something, it's a very obscure. Buggy is, you know, I wouldn't call it Buggy the clown. guy who I think you did get in your show right, a guy with a big red clown nose. Yes, we got him. Buggy, I would say, is
Starting point is 00:29:26 he's above Connemicke. I'd say he's the Killer Croc, but like Batman the animated series Killer Croc who's more of a joke. I'd say he's that. Or it's like if Batman's done show now and they're like, hey, look, it's Knox from Batman One, the Robert Wool character. It's Knox. He's back.
Starting point is 00:29:43 He fell off of a high place into the water. I didn't know Knox was going to be in this. second thought about what that character's name is. Because at this point he walks in and you're like, oh, Arlis, that's right. Arlis is here. Wayne knows Arlis. Or Bob the henchman, perhaps. Bob, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Bob, I feel like people remember, Bob. He had a toy. That's how I remember him. Of course. Oh, and the funny thing, though, is that the one-piece show is that they've now realized, like, they have a lot of international fans who show up for it. Like, we were hardly the only Americans or non-Japanese people in the audience. People come from, like, you know, Europe and Australia, too. But so
Starting point is 00:30:19 I think actually the most people who come to Japan from any country or Korea actually like that's the number one. At least that's why I read when we went there. So they have a character, they made up a brand new character who's like a park exclusive character who stands
Starting point is 00:30:35 next to a major character so every time a major character says something in Japanese that's a plot point then this guy, this new character standing next to him goes like, what? Luffy got kidnapped? Is that what you're saying? and just to explain, he says it in English, so everybody else there, if you don't know Japanese, but you can speak English, you can follow the story a little bit.
Starting point is 00:30:58 It's like 10% English is hopeful, I guess, a nice little reach out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like all the Netflix characters saying what's happening very clearly. Right. Similar to Netflix, just saying like how every episode of Stranger Things had people stop to say, all right, explain the plan again. Is that right? Okay, so one more time.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Here's what we're doing. The plan doesn't mean anything. You've explained it so many times. I can't even parse it anymore. It just sounds like nothing to me now. Is there a big highlight stunt in that show? They definitely, they repurpose, you know, there's not the train thing, but they, sorry, the plain thing that they didn't repurpose that from Waterworld. Because this is also at the Waterworld.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Right, right. Yeah, they basically repurpose all the. the water world stuff. But the best stuff is, one of my favorites is Jim Bay, who's one of the core members of the Luffy's pirate crew, he's a fish man who has water powers.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Nice. And so he has like a super punch that in the comics and the cartoon makes like a tidal wave of water explode. And when he hits somebody with his super punch, which is, you know, just a staged punch, then that's when there's a big splash of water that like it's like
Starting point is 00:32:13 it gets way into the splash. zone at Waterworld in the Waterworld stage, which is it is a copy of the stage of Water World in Japan too. So yeah. Wow. That's pretty cool. Yeah, we were talking, we were messaging about like
Starting point is 00:32:29 the response to One Piece at Fan Fest just seems so massive. Oh yeah. Like lines out the door for the arena, the limited time food and stuff. Like a restaurant that can't handle that level of
Starting point is 00:32:45 traffic is where the limited time food is. I think Universal underestimates how thirsty American anime fans are for the stuff that happens because like they've, if you're a One Piece fan, which I am a recent, I've only been into it for like two years now, but my, I have friends who are super hardcore, they always heard about the cool shit that's in Universal Osaka and could never get it here. And so now that it's happening here, like it's, it's this weird mix. Like I saw it last year too of like the huge lines for one piece at fan fest while meanwhile like poor Star Trek is
Starting point is 00:33:19 is felt under attended and I think they didn't understand like how much the anime fans are the are harder core than even most media fans and in America anyway don't they want some old guys age 40 to 70
Starting point is 00:33:35 coming into the park more they need more Star Trek not less they want young people coming to see fun cool hip things come on I'm so sad The Quarks Bar is not here at this year's, you know? Right?
Starting point is 00:33:48 It was incredible. Let me tell you. So there was a photo of Quark. And that is all. We can talk about something else now. There was a picture on the wall of him. Yeah. Quark.
Starting point is 00:34:01 That's whose bar it is. And you know his name and what he looks like from the show. That's correct. Now you're there. Well, I am excited to see the three Yoshis stand around, as you guys explain. They're there. Yeah, yeah. They'll stand.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yeah. It's a good, good little. mill about. I'm ripping this off from a TikTok or somebody's post, but there was a, so forgive me for not saying who posted,
Starting point is 00:34:22 but there was footage of the four of them all kind of like, with a vibe of what do we do now? And somebody online said, this feels like when everybody, like the people who got into the Capitol on January 6th, and then are like,
Starting point is 00:34:35 so, like, we're in the office now. And we didn't really put, I don't think we'd get here. Didn't plan this far. Well, I'll jump on the day. I'll wiggle my right arm. Shake my big butt around.
Starting point is 00:34:52 A fan fest friend who went already, he warned me of like, if you want Sailor Moon's picture, you get in the first line you can't get in and you might get in the next line before they cap it. Yeah. I've heard Sailor Moon was very popular as well. Sure.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Probably an intense line. Yeah. This could be crazy. But we don't show love to Universal Classics. There's a line at the door for One Piece stuff and for Sailor Moon. Meanwhile, we don't even appreciate a Transformers supply vault. That's just been there for her.
Starting point is 00:35:22 That's, you know, that's an old stalwart selling merchandise of our perennial favorite franchise. I know. Nobody. I've never seen a line in there. We're not respecting our elders. They don't sell enough merch theme to the original general character played by that one character actor that you see in everything.
Starting point is 00:35:41 That he's in the pre-show you're talking about? Yeah. You want more, you want some merch with him on it? Yeah. General. I forget that actor's name. I want him to, I want a shirt with his face and it says like, huddle up recruits. You want like, okay, what would you would buy a big sweatshirt with his face on it that said huddle up recruits?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah. 100%. Like a thick sweatsh? Like a zip up? It's thick as possible. Okay. I mean, I guess like maybe I would buy that too. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:11 If it's his face, like in the like view screen. or whatever. Are you guys as, you know, water world lovers, are you scared that, you know, that Universal could see the metrics on this one piece, like limited engagement and, like, one piece could slowly take over the water world slots at the park in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:36:30 There's no more hell. That's kind of what we felt, I feel like after seeing the show, you know, maybe this is just going to take over. Yeah. And I didn't feel upset. No, I think I'd be fine. I think my point of view, I may have said this, is that I think as long as the place,
Starting point is 00:36:43 places respected. My love is much less about IP and characters and much more about like overhead plans and architecture and how space is used. Which is why I'm like, Tiana, Splash Mountain, fine, whatever, it's still like the, it's, I'm really there for the track. I like the track, and they kept the track.
Starting point is 00:37:03 So the track is important, yeah. So, yeah, I just want, like, I want that little horseshoe and I want people to, you know, do their little zip line up above that arena and I don't care what movie plot they're talking about. Because you can still, or we can
Starting point is 00:37:19 still go to the new One Piece show and say you're taking somebody for the first time, you can grab their arm tightly and go, this is where the mariner used to be. This is what he used to do. You can still do that. Now, if they demolish it and put something totally new there, you really can't do that as much. You can, but it's like, they
Starting point is 00:37:35 have no context for it since you're not looking at the bones of the old thing. He used to golf. He golfed. It was funny because you don't expect golf to be happening in a post-apocalyptic thing. It was very funny. Oh, you're hurting me. Don't look away.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Look at me. I hear me. Oh, the best part of that, it's got to be the don't look away, look at me part. When you're frantically explaining something. Yeah, when you scare the person. When you yell at them. Scared. That's a Jason Sheridan signature.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You need to say, don't be scared. Don't be scared. I'm the guy you came in with. I'm a safe guy. Same Gary. And then you can say, much like our favorite character, it's okay to be scared. Of course, I'm talking about Doolittle from the Robert Downey, Judeo. Do Littal is done show.
Starting point is 00:38:22 I think we all, I think every listener knows the catchphrase. It's okay to be scared. His famous Welsh accent. Oh, please, that's the Doom Voice. Please, please let that be the Dr. Doom Voice. That's what I'm hoping for. Oh, man. Well, what a trip.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I mean, that's all insane stuff. And off the beaten path. stuff and how long did it take you to how long did you there to do all it was uh we did one week in osaka and one week in kiotto and uh yeah on top of seeing other like you know uh actual cultural things uh but we we were it almost felt like we were like well this cultural stuff's nice but don't you want to be shopping or going to a place themed after an anime you're like don't you want to do this but there's you got to keep a healthy like history trash balance it or nature trash balance whatever you prefer i i would tell people like yeah if you
Starting point is 00:39:12 there are fun things off the beaten path to do. If you like Japanese media, they're not just like a theme park fan and you like certain anime or video games. There are tons of theme things to do around there that are. I even missed out, Evangelion just opened up a new 40 film at another theme park the other week that's like,
Starting point is 00:39:36 or no, it's called the 8K film. That's what they, it's advertised as. So Evangelion 8K. and it's in another similar park that used to be like it was sold in the 70s, this park as it's Europe in Japan. It's like, walk European-style streets. It's like in France, but you're in Japan. Like that was its old way of selling itself.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And now it's like they built an 8K theater in there and it's like, watch Evangelion. Don't care about going to fake Europe in Japan. Yeah. Interesting. Do the staff member, do they tell you like get in the Eva, Henry? When I did the VR Evangelian game, they did say that. Oh, okay. One guy did say it. And then he congratulated us that we, we played a $20 VR Ava game three times until we finally
Starting point is 00:40:23 wanted it. Wow. And the guy told us we did it with three seconds, no, with less than three seconds left on it, plenty of time. It was, yeah. Well, despite all of this incredible new stuff and this, this 8K experience and such things, what we landed on to talk about is something that seems to have been rending. in no K.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Zero K. This is pre-K. Not to say they wouldn't have rendered it in a K. It would have been a K. But in kind of a time before K's, a time of an early era for 3D animation that is rudimentary to some extent,
Starting point is 00:41:02 but I know it is a show and a movie and an area that people have a lot of fondness for and that being Jimmy Neutron, Nicktoon Blast. Did I get that right? Is there a possessive there? There is a possessive. It is a new trons.
Starting point is 00:41:15 He owns the Nicktoon blast. Okay, okay. Wasn't sure. Thank you for clarifying. Now, I think early on, it was just going to be called Nicktoon blast. And then they're like, what Nicktoon is going to be steering the ship? Right. And well, then they had a new big, they had a big thing.
Starting point is 00:41:31 They decided to be a kingmaker for, and strap the rocket to Jimmy Neutron. He got the big push. So how did we land here? with all of the recent craziness and top-of-the-line experiences, which you said that you've been doing all of these things, but then also that you have, well, I don't want to put words in your mouth. I was going to say fondness. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Opinions, you have something in your brain about Jimmy Neutron's Nicktoon Blas. Well, when I was throwing out things to Mike, and you guys, number one, I am a Spider-Man fan, but you guys have covered every Spider-Man thing. There's a lot. We're discussing it. Is there a way to focus on Spider-Man doing the stunt? I mean, that hasn't really got in its own episode.
Starting point is 00:42:15 But, yeah, there's, you know, we did our process. We went back and forth. But the, I was like, okay, I really like we cover, I'm a cartoon historian, like, on Talking Simpsons, but also we have our secondary podcast, what a cartoon where we just cover any animated series. We, like, did Saturday morning All-Star hits. I was very appreciative of that.
Starting point is 00:42:35 That was any animated series. I'm glad we qualified. And I was a Nicktoon kid. Like, I love the Nicktoon so much. But then, like, this ride actually does represent to me like, when I realized I had aged out of the Nicktoon's own. And if Jimmy Neutron, I am not a pro, I'm sorry to slightly younger millennial listeners here who love Jimmy Neutron. And I respect your love for him and all the references you do to Jimmy Neutron and how hot you think Jimmy Neutron's mom is and all that stuff. Oh, is she like an icon for a certain section of perverts out of him?
Starting point is 00:43:10 out there? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Mike's never seen her, but he's coming to her defense. I just base this on memes I have seen that put her on the level of like Dexter's mom from Dexter's laboratory. Like in that similar zone. I'm looking at, I don't know. Well, when you Google her, one of the first things you see is that people claim that she looks like Lana Del Rey.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I'm not sure if I... The fourth thing is a... You know, the more I look at it, the more I'm seeing it. The fourth link is a she appears to be in some sort of like negligee or something. I assume that's not official. She's markedly more, is this some sort of a parody song? When you click on it, it says Jimmy Neutron's Carl Weezer, Jimmy's mom. So is this a parody of Stacey's mom?
Starting point is 00:43:56 Okay, well there you go. I like the birth mark. I think, yeah, is that her part? Is that something that Lana Del Rey has? Cindy Crawford birthmark? I don't know. Jason, were you into Jimmy Neutron? Well, I think this was an older millennial, younger millennial divide, like you said, because I was like, yeah, I like, Jamie Neutron.
Starting point is 00:44:17 If I was flipping channels and that was on, I might leave it on for a while. I feel like you were longer watching this than a lot of us. You had a couple extra years watching like Nick. Yeah, I would jump back and forth. I was a big Invader Zim fan, but that was like, that was like trying to catch Futurama during football season. Like, it was always, Invader Zim moved around so much. It was so hard to find. I was trying to know what I'm trying to think of what he's talking.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Sorry, this might be. I apologize. He got, I was a cartoon fan. It might have been an Easter time zone thing. And also, like, I was a weird nerdy kid being like, they said it was on at 7, this football game still on. What's going on? And I didn't know about preempting.
Starting point is 00:45:02 But this is like if you were trying to watch Jennifer Lopez's debut on Saturday Night Live, but the XFL was running late. Sure, yeah, exactly. But yeah, Jimmy Neutron, I liked okay, but I mentioned it to Jane. I mentioned it to my wife, and she said, I love Jimmy Neutron.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And so she's a few years younger, and she, I said, oh, is that why you married me? Hodge very quickly went, no, you're Carl. I'm Jimmy Neutron. If anything. I'm the star,
Starting point is 00:45:40 you're Carl Weezer. Great, okay. Just literally speak. I don't know the characters well, but if I look at a photo, I mean, is that a neurotic character? He's the nerdy friend.
Starting point is 00:45:52 He's the guy who's nerdier than Jimmy Neutron Boy genius. Yeah, he's an inventor, he's the Rob Pulson nerd in the ride. Like, he's the, yeah, he's like, oh, geez. Oh, geez, Jim. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Oh, boy. I think of later Nictoons. Yeah, Invaders, Em, Angry Beavers, and Hey Arnold resonated with me more. Hey Arnold was a little in my zone. I just feel like, I mean, you're a year younger than me, but I do feel like you went an extra five years in Nicktoons. Where's this coming from? How did you know that? Because he was a fairly odd parents watcher.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Yeah, I really liked fairly odd parents. And so I just always feel like there's like a couple extra years of like I was totally out at that point on Nicktoons. Oh, I just loved cable. I just loved cable TV. Oh, I just love Cable. And if Comedy Central... If Comedy Central wasn't showing a good thing in syndication, I would flip to, like, Nickelodeon.
Starting point is 00:46:48 When it hit the AbFam hour, you would switch over. Yeah, I had never really hit with me. I don't understand it. Yeah, but I needed a break because I'd get a, I'd get a 1992 SNL and then two kids in the hall, and then like, all right, something's got to get me away from the TV. Oh, yeah. No, yeah, I would check in at the time Jimmy Neutron debuted and while I was a movie first, but then TV show in O2, like I was between 18 and 20 when it debuted.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I would still watch SpongeBob on there and same with, I would watch some fairly odd parents, but mostly I was watching more adult cartoons then or Cartoon Network stuff, which also is usually pointed more at a slightly older demographic. But then, but yeah, was Jimmy Neutron? Like, it was, I was 18 when it came out in, you know, one ahead of a certain day. We'll all remember. No. The release of Benfold's rock in the suburbs. But, but, yes, when it first came out, I was like, I finally realized, like, oh, Nicolode wants me to like this.
Starting point is 00:47:54 This is being advertised to me too aggressively. Like, it was the first time where the advertising, which they do for everything, and they want you to watch everything. But this was the first time where I had the knee-jerk reaction of, you want me to like this too much? No, I don't like this. No, this is the first time that you rebelled against Nicktoons, that you were, but you said. Well, because they rolled.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I don't have to do what you want, Nicktoons. It had this kind of rollout that, like, DreamWorks would start doing a few years later where they're like, well, why wait to see if the movie is successful to them make a TV show? We make the movie and the TV show concurrently. So, like, the movie comes out in theaters like Summer 01, and is an Oscar-dominated movie, it lost to Shrek at the Oscars. Having never watched any Jimmy Neutron,
Starting point is 00:48:40 one of my only core memories, but being a big Oscar fan, I definitely remember the very first animated feature category in which they cut to a tuxedoed version of Mike and Sully and then Shrek and Donkey who won, right? And then Jimmy Neutron. And then them being like,
Starting point is 00:49:01 these characters, I can't speak. I don't know. I don't know if it was Jimmy and the robot. It's Jimmy Goddard. I've seen like Goddard has like a sign up that says like vote for us or something. Okay, okay. But I did look. I always like that.
Starting point is 00:49:13 If we're cut into animated characters in the Oscars theater, I'm smiling. So he was at least part of the thing that I enjoyed in that regard. And then the TV show rolled out less than a year later. Like they did, it was like a money saving thing in a way, which was smart. They built all the character models for the movie. and then now you basically have models you can puppet on a TV show you don't have to put the work into
Starting point is 00:49:36 spending the money on producing the models you just now do them on a cheaper TV show with less animation and not rendering is that part of it? I don't know where the cost savings come into it but it's like sort of like less rich imagery. Yeah it also was like yeah it was not done in HD like
Starting point is 00:49:52 for the movies and then also they get rid of the expensive people like Patrick Stewart and Martin Short and you recast them with just regular TV voice out. Oh they're in the movie? I didn't know that until I was looking up like, who was Ublar in the movie again? And like, oh, Ublar, one of the enemies
Starting point is 00:50:08 in the ride, is Martin Short in the movie. And even for the ride, they couldn't spend the money on Martin Short. Despite Martin Short appearing in like five different Disney attractions, he's like one of the most stacked. Maybe he's has an exclusivity thing and he can only be on Disney ride. He's not allowed to be in Universal. Maybe they did an overall
Starting point is 00:50:26 with him in 1989. What you described is the I recall this same format existing for Barnyard, the movie. Yes. And then back at the Barnyard, the subsequent show. And this was also both shows from the mind of Steve Odeke, he of the Thumb Wars franchise. And what's the martial arts thing?
Starting point is 00:50:52 Oh, Kung Pal? Comeh. Come, Power, enter the fist. Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So Barnyard may be following in the model of, let's do movie and show concurrently. Steve Odenkirk was getting some big paychecks
Starting point is 00:51:03 from Paramount that, man. Yeah, really? No, truly. The elements, the elements were being reused. That's what I kept hearing in the like theme park history, YouTube video. Yeah, it saved money on some level for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:18 But even though, I get that it shows off like, oh, you don't, seeing CGI cartoon on TV in 2002 is very novel. Like there's very little TV CGI. then. So it seems fancy, but it locks them in too much. They can barely do anything or go anywhere because they can't build a new
Starting point is 00:51:37 in a 2D show, obviously it costs money all the time to design a new character and cast somebody. But it is exponentially more expensive if you want a fully new character, or at least back then, if you wanted a fully new character model to show up on Jimmy Neutron, that was way more expensive
Starting point is 00:51:53 than one new character in an episode of fairly odd parents for instance. Sure. And did they then to to like I again I don't know the show at all so I don't want to judge the show in a way that's not correct but would they kind of try to default to like all right we need to go to a new place can that just be kind of a swirly like kind of a mucky sky background we'll change the color to like an orange tint instead of green some screen saver yeah yeah essentially or just like yeah that's the atmosphere quote unquote and then but it's like it's from win amp and then the and then just like well we got rocks right they're on a rocky round great new planet done this was probably partly the impetus of why Shrek and donkeys show up on Father of the Pride. Models exist. We've got the models.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Thing one, we got the models. Oh, man. See, and to only make six episodes of Father of Pride, like, and to waste those models, like, unless they better have reused those guys on, like, Madagascar or something to getting their money back on that. Yeah. I don't want to, I don't want a man spline. I don't want a Tiger Splane to you, but the, weren't there, like, there were more than. There was a shocking amount of father of the prize.
Starting point is 00:53:02 As you said that, I just flashed back to the day, which I do this thing is one of the lowest days of the pandemic for us. It was just I really felt bad that day. Yeah, me too. And I don't remember the timeline exactly, but I think at that point I was expecting a baby any minute. And I was like, let's get that baby going. I need something to do that's not this.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And I watched all of them in like a day. And I'm like, I feel sick. I feel sick. I have a different. illness. I believe after you guys put that out, me and me and my co-host Bob both listened to it and we're like, good. Okay, we both swear we never have to cover this on our podcast because they did it. We finally did it.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And we don't need to. We wouldn't want to step on podcast the rights territory. That's the only reason we cannot watch hours of. I guess we're here. You know what we have not said is where and when this was this ride open 2003. This is in Universal Studios. Hollywood, Maine Park. it is sort of the middle ride in a slot that before it was taken up by
Starting point is 00:54:04 Fantastic World of Hannah Barbera and after it became Despicable Me, Minion Mayhem. And that's like a, you know, early on you're entering the park, kind of the main drive where things still look like soundstages to this day. Production Central. Oh, production Central, of course, yes. And it's, so it's like, you know, opening day structure. that has sort of only changed a little bit. That's like three ride films,
Starting point is 00:54:33 but the overall idea has stayed the same and the way the pre-show moves into the main theater. And probably the thing to say about it format-wise is that it's a simulator, but all of the attractions in that space have been a simulator where it's a big screen, but you're on all these kind of like mini benches that all move around,
Starting point is 00:54:54 and the characters are playing to you, but then also there's like 50s,000, these things. Yeah. So, which I've always found, I'm very mixed here. I don't know that any of these attractions are my favorite, and it's sort of,
Starting point is 00:55:08 I get it, it's like efficient, and it's like an auditorium, and you can move people in and out quickly, but boy, does it not feel the same as Star Tours where you're in a little box, and if, again, and Rex and C3Pio are talking to you. It's a little like, but what about all these other people?
Starting point is 00:55:23 Yeah, there's too many of these benches. This isn't my adventure. Same of like, back to the, the future versus this and say and and this carries over to like the minions ride and and the before it the fantastic hana barbara of like in i was rewatching fan uh the hannah barbara one this morning too and like format wise it's the same too of like you're in just like a small car that's like well no just your bench is being driven around by yogi bear in that one insane deal with my my bench but yeah you're right you're looking all around i i think on despicable me did they define it as like
Starting point is 00:55:58 everybody in this arena is turned into a minion and joins me. Eventually that happens. And acknowledge that it's a big group a little more than trying to make it your experience. Now, I've softened on this area or at least undisputable me a little bit. I would put all three of these maybe in the same category of like, I don't know, like kid gunk a little bit. Not my favorite simulators, but as will happen, recent experiences with my son have made me more amenable the Dispicable Mimun You Mayam. He really took to this ride.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And it's a good introductory, full family ride that is a little thrilling. It gears up and you go, whoa, but then nothing that crazy happens. So if you're a little bit of a skittish kid, it's a way to ease you into the thrilling simulator attraction. It's still a 40-inch height requirement, though. So as much as I go, oh, I'll take my like two-year-old up to that little movie or whatever, you still kind of have to be tall. You have to be the same height as you would have to be on big thuneration. or space mountain.
Starting point is 00:57:00 So I'm like, as much as I'm like, yeah, it's like a kid, I mean, obviously, if you're a tall, three-year-old, so, like, you can ride it, like my daughter, but, like, still, I'm like, there's a height requirement on this. It's kind of weird. If you wanted to just be like a kid's thing. Yeah, you're right, because it's a, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:17 The ideal audience member for a lot of these might be a two-year-old. Right. They can't. But for some reason, yeah, it's like the height requirement. But there used to be, I don't know if it's still there. the first, like, there was some carpeted, stair riser kind of things at the front
Starting point is 00:57:34 of the attraction. You could sit if you didn't want to. Okay, yes. I think my mom, who's always been lightly motion sick, I think went and, like, for Hannah Barberra, I think went and said. Yeah, and I have such an affection for Hannah Barberra because the fantastic world,
Starting point is 00:57:52 because that was like, it was 91 or 92, I bet I could find out of it was like, Sequest was in its second season, and they talked about it on our tour, so maybe I could see pinpoint where that production was, but like I was, I've gotten better at not being scared on rides,
Starting point is 00:58:11 though I still have an upper limit, but I was really scared at the back to the future ride, but I loved it, and then the fantastic world was at the level I could really enjoy. And I also liked at the end of it, it's like, oh, this is how they make cartoons, I'll do voiceover,
Starting point is 00:58:26 stuff for it. So I, then when I heard it got replaced by a Jimmy Neutron thing, this thing that already was, I felt being shoved down my throat by Nickelodeon, I was even more mad of like, it also is just proof to like Hannah Barbarra characters, no kid, no, if they're not Scooby-Doo or Fruty Pebbles, mascots, no child knows a Hannah-Barbara character anymore is how it feels. Yogi and Jetsons have not really passed on, I think, but even though I'm positive that they're at all times are at least three attempts to reboot both of those. Like, right, there must, like, develop. I think ever since 1990, there's a bit, like, they make sure that at least
Starting point is 00:59:05 three overqualified writers are trying to do a new Jetsons. Yeah, for sure. Someone in this town, there's an executive in this town screaming at his sister right now, get me the fucking McGillah Carilla screenwriter on the phone now. I've heard on stage in public so it's not like an off the record thing I've heard like Dana Gould talk about how he had like the best Jetsons pitch and how he's like this one Cartoon Network executive didn't get it and he just started complaining about how he ruined his Jetsons pitch
Starting point is 00:59:40 so yeah wow geez it's like this is the main thing to try to get I got on a Jetsons I got on a never to be aired Jetsons we can just be thankful that Cartoon Network is in good hands now. It's terrible talking about Anna Barbera like this the week after Teddy Billions. Oh, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Ted Turner. Teddy Billion. Is that your name for him? Big Ted. Is that what... I saw someone else called Big Ten. I just invented that right now. Oh, great.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Oh, okay. But yeah, Turner Class. Get a copyright on that and you'll be Teddy Billions. Ooh. Turnit Class movies, Cartoon Network, TNT, TBS. he loved cable television as well, I guess. That's what he was playing, too, the Jason Sheridan out there.
Starting point is 01:00:28 He knew what you want. And he had multiple girlfriends toward the end of his life. He had a whole group going. Good for him. How about that? Just like you'd like that, too. I think I'd be all, feel awfully inconsiderate if that was the case. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I just read an essay. I grew up, I grew up from ages 8 to 10 in an Atlanta, Georgia suburb, where, like, everybody seemed like they worked for, a Turner entity. So I have mixed in with all my other childhood nostalgia is like so when he died I was like, man, they don't make good billionaires like him anymore. And then somebody was like, well, you know, cable news
Starting point is 01:01:03 at the very least, that ruined the world. And I was like, yeah, you're right. Yeah, but okay, but sure, bye. But he liked the Atlanta Braves and he bought him. It was just fun. He was having fun. He was doing silly things. It is, I mean, you really don't.
Starting point is 01:01:20 We said this last week, too. I mean, you don't get mixed bag billionaires. You get all, you get one, there's one type of thing in the bag. Yeah. It's all world destroying. No, it's like small lizards in Southern California, all billionaires now. You're like, ah, shit, I got in the house. All right, let's round it up.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Will anyone ever be saying like, but you know, but also Zuckerberg invented poking? No, poking. Oh, poking. Remember we all were like, what do we do it? and then I did one for you, even though you're my guy friend, and that then I did it for a girl I wanted to go out with. It was up to us to decide what poking was.
Starting point is 01:01:59 The rest of peace, marky billions. That'd be nice to be wishing him. Well, here, I won't say more. Jimmy Neutron. I didn't finish the sentence. It wasn't a problem. So Jimmy Neutron. Yeah, so this ride, it comes,
Starting point is 01:02:19 There's that determination, I guess, that these characters, that people don't know the Hannah-Berberra characters, that that ride's kind of going by the waist. And maybe that they don't, people are sick of watching the pre-show with Hannah and Barbera themselves. Not us. Yeah, I know. Bring back just that pre-show. Yes, I know. Just give me some room to watch that. It maybe was keeping them alive because I think both of them didn't die until after the pre-show went away in O-Doo.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Like, they lived such a long time and died in like the mid-aughts. It was like the picture of Doreen, portrait of Doreen Gray kind of deal. Just once the pre-show stopped, they could. No, no, once the last TV was unplugged. It would have loved the 24-hour fitness that became of their old headquarters. Oh, yes, they're all, yeah. It's an apartment complex and a gym is where they used to, we're just down the hill from Universal Studios, where they used to animate everything.
Starting point is 01:03:11 But they, meanwhile, there's been the desire and the deal to do a Nicktoon attraction. and Jimmy Neutron emerges as the new thing that they're trying to push. We are all in on this. It's movie, it's show at the same time. So why not also this? And is he not the best conduit? Look, he's 3D already, you know?
Starting point is 01:03:32 And they, look, as much as the kind of the melding of formats is a little odd in this. It's also how they did Fantastic World of Phantom Barbarra, too. They sort of had to put 2D animation in a 3D world. I bet that was some of the calculus. He's in a 3D rocket. I mean, he makes sense to be your guide. It makes, yeah, I think it does make sense in that regard to.
Starting point is 01:03:52 It's not just that they were all in on Jimmy Neutron as like the coolest new kid everybody's going to love. But I think, yeah, he works as a host in that way from a, like, it feels like it's always about budget, though, with Jimmy Neutron where I'm like, I guess it did save the money. Like, every time, like same with this. But like, in the show are two things that were way bigger than him that should have, like, hosted the. the shell. It's so inverted. Yes. That's a strange.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I mean, I don't think there's any reason to like go sew an order or spoil or whatever because it is like, I think what people like about this, if they are nostalgic for it, it's probably less that like,
Starting point is 01:04:33 oh, I got to be on an attraction with, I got to follow Jimmy Neutron and Carl and who's the dog. Godard. Yeah, yeah. And I got to see Ublar. Ublar, the brother of King Guba. I love seeing
Starting point is 01:04:49 Ublob. It's probably less that I'm more like oh this is the ride that takes you through the different Nicktoons worlds and the primary of those being and correct me if I miss anything, Rugrats, fairly odd parents, then you're kind of in Jimmy Neutron world for a little bit and then SpongeBob
Starting point is 01:05:06 and when you're watching it me not having, I think I went on it once I didn't have this memorized by any means. So you're watching it and Spongebob is the last it's at the towards the end and you're like, oh my God, SpongeBob? Why do they save him? Why isn't this the SpongeBob ride?
Starting point is 01:05:24 I'll say him these keys over to you right now, SpongeBob. Yeah, the only one you miss, they fly, it is, it counts as a zone. They fly through it pretty quick, but the Hey Arnold Street, they go through that. You're right. That's a, yeah, yeah. Well, I guess that context is that you are, it is set at Nicktoon Studios. They do a confusing amount of, is it studio or are you in their world? So you're going in and out of different sound stages, just classic old school universal awkwardness.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And that's probably the most successful part of that. It becomes a way for them to quickly pay lip service to Rocco's Modern Life via a sign. Just pass by it. For like a third of a second, you can see Randon Stimpy in there. I miss them. I paused. Like, they're right next to the Rocko's Modern Life building and the tap dog building. Like they're just two guys walking by. The only one you're not going to see in there is
Starting point is 01:06:18 Doug because he got bought by Disney. Right. Oh yeah. Yeah, he's up the freeway. Doug is dead to them. Yeah. He's the death of quail man. They fly over the rocket power kids at one point and I'm like, get out of here. Rocket power. No, thanks. There was a time there were like five Claskey Chupo shows on Nickelodeon at the same time. They sold that many. Like they had, they had Rugrats, Rugrats all grown up, as told by Ginger, Rocket Power, and the Wild Thornberries, all at once. They sold that many shows to, like... Aesthetically, these get harsher and harsher. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Yeah. Ginger with the... I know it's supposed to be, like, a preteen girl who was like, oh, she's wearing makeup for the... But Ginger always freaked me out. She always frightened me. That's why they can only show her for, like, a third of a second flying by in this. You can only really take the aesthetic of Claskey Chupon. when it's babies with giant heads.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Like that's the only way it works. Also, they weren't all grown up. That's bullshit. They weren't adults. No, they were just aged up to tweens. For the perfect tween market. You're right. That's not all grown up.
Starting point is 01:07:30 You're far from growed up. Did you watch that show? It's the old growed up show? No, I didn't like it. And you know what? So you tried it and you didn't like it. Fuck that pickles boy, Dill. I ain't going in on that shit.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Get out. out of here. I'm not a Dill guy at all. That is like another millennial divide I've seen. It's like, oh, when Dill came into the show, that's the jump to shark moment for Rugrats is Dill's arrival. We finally have another one. We're,
Starting point is 01:07:55 Razzledazil Jason, we're seeing cracks. He has come out against Adrian Brody and against Dill picks. Till, not the rocket power freaks. I like it. Hot takes her back. They weren't, like, safe and comforting, like, Pepper Ann or the recess. children. Then you watch recess?
Starting point is 01:08:15 Yeah. Yeah, it was on Saturday morning. That had an obviously. Yeah. Recess was super... That had the tween attitude of dill pickles. Recess was super solid. I, but I really remember when Doug Rugrats and Stimpy came on the air, that was so
Starting point is 01:08:32 exciting in like 91. The only issue was they aired on Sunday mornings. Then they'd repeat a million times during the week. But if, like, we had to go to church. I'm like, I'm missing the NICTunes. I was happily a godless family who got to watch it on Sunday morning. So my mom was the biggest fan of Renan Stimpy, too. Like, she was happy to buy us the toys.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Because Renan Stimpy was like calling back to the cartoons of her childhood. They were parroting like the Hannah Barbera serial cartoons of then. My dad loved watching Renan Stimpy with us. But after the Lord's work was done. After you worship. Oh, yeah, yeah. This is the Lord's time. No, Red Stimpy was on a move to Snick at some point.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Oh, right, the Stick era. Oh, right. It became more of an adult. You got Clarissa and Rownhouse, Ren and Stimpy. And are you afraid of the car? Yeah, I was right with you on this. Yeah. On this.
Starting point is 01:09:28 That's where, yeah, that's an era in which Snick was the only thing you have going in your life. The only important thing that was happening. Big Saturday night plans. Right. Snick is on. And if you did the Nickelodeon studio store, you got to see the orange couch. I'm just.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I'm jealous that I never got to do it. I saw the orange couch. Yeah, I'm jealous of you because of that. No, yeah, I got to, I, they weren't doing any games that day when we went to the, uh, studio tour of it. But we did, we got to see the, all the lights on of the legend of the hidden temple set. It was all set up for filming. That's magic too. I swear, I had a classmate who bragged that they were like one of the, she was on an episode of Legend of the Hidden Temple and lost in the first, the first round.
Starting point is 01:10:11 but she swore by any the kids lie all the time. I feel like I can't truly believe that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I feel like my friend and I have described like hearing a kid
Starting point is 01:10:22 like how badly she wanted to be on wild and crazy kids and then maybe am I making this up that like somebody, a kid said they were on and she was like, I don't believe you. It's so unattainable. That can't be true. But in the case of Legends of the Temple, it's such, those are such like,
Starting point is 01:10:37 you know, like the pawns and the chest gate. They get eliminated so fast, that first group. Yeah, they made me like, what, four teams of force? That's like 16 kids per taping. They needed like those early soldiers who get wiped out, that first wall. You don't know their names. You don't find out jack shit about them. Yeah, to bring it to my work, too, of The Simpsons,
Starting point is 01:11:00 like, do you know the incestuous world of Hay Arnold and the Simpsons? Craig Bartlett is related to Matt Groening? married to Lisa Graining for for 30 years. They are divorced as of 2018, but yes, he was so when Craig Bartlett's wasn't accomplished cartoonist on his own, but I do wonder if that
Starting point is 01:11:22 opened some doors for him a little bit for the Mac Greening. Some of his first stuff, his comics, Hey Arnold Comics were published in Simpsons Illustrated magazine for Oh, sure, yeah. Okay. I didn't know that. And when did the Claskey Chupo Simpsons split?
Starting point is 01:11:38 Oh, man, yeah. Okay. Yeah, so I'm so excited to explain all this, but I'll say it quickly. When the shorts started, there were so few places they could go to, and for the production in the time frame they needed in, Claskey Chupo was their top option to do like just 90 seconds of animation. And they decided to then, once they got the show, they're like, okay, it'll still be Claskey Chupo. That'll be our, and overseas, it will be ACOM,
Starting point is 01:12:05 but here it'll be Claskey Chupo. and day one like the first episode back they signed a three-year deal and the first episode back james l brooks like got like hated it and the reanimated 60% of it demanded it and like made claskey chupo pay for it and got into a fight with gabor chupo like a shouting match that made everybody uncomfortable like it is like famous of like because it was the start of james l brooks said no you don't you do exactly what we say animators. He felt the animators took two male liberties and that pretty much the deal continued for the three years but when the third season was up, fourth season they went to film
Starting point is 01:12:49 Roman, the Garfield folks and they were at film Roman until that got bought by stars and now they've been at just Fox Boom studio I think it's at the same studio as Bob's burgers they've been at since then. Oh, got you. Okay, okay. Fascist. I
Starting point is 01:13:04 because was it the was that that babysitter episode with Penny Marshall. Yes. There's a version of that that's a nightmare. You can find it on the DVD of like seven minutes are on there. And they watch it in 2001. They record a new commentary with a lot of the guys. And James L. Brooks like leaves three minutes in because he's so angry again, remembering
Starting point is 01:13:27 it come back and saying like, this is shit. Like that's how they quote him saying it when he looked at it. It's like, this is shit. They're all shouting. They're all so mad. that's a great that's a good I love that they share that kind of like thing that's what we lose when we lose DVD extras
Starting point is 01:13:42 absolutely no they were like I was going to film school and concurrently absorbing as many audio commentaries for everything I love as I could those are the same things to me it was at a big impact on me it's bullshit we don't uh I guess that's why you have to like collect them it's like podcasts have to become
Starting point is 01:13:58 audio commentaries I guess I think to the Rugrats Rugrats I think was this I can't confirm of like a person's this but I do think that like Rugrats was a sticking point with them that like Rugrats for for Simpsons because Rugrats partially got sold to Nick to Viacom on hey no we're the Simpsons guys we animate the Simpsons and this is like the next thing from the Simpsons guys and this is kind of like the Simpsons it's a family thing like they so they sold Rugrats on the Simpsons name
Starting point is 01:14:30 which then the Gracie studio folks were like hey you you're selling I think they did have a feeling of like you're selling yourselves as the Simpsons guys when we don't like that and I think that that is my personal theory I think that hastened the the breakup we do everything you love about the Simpsons the crazy mismatchy surreal disgusting character design did I mention that the people who run the Simpsons don't like us so I mean by chasing it south the door don't you want to work with us now wow well so this is this becomes a fascinating piece, I get, regardless of if you like the quality of the ride,
Starting point is 01:15:09 it is interesting that it does have to blend all of these disparate Nicktoons worlds together, and that you end up with, like, I'm jumping around. If there are things that we love in the pre-show, please, scream at me, we'll go back to the things of the pre-show. But you end up, basically,
Starting point is 01:15:25 you're on a rocket chase through Nictune Studios, and in which you end up, you know, you grab, but you go through the Rugrats, I was going to say, their house, but they all live in different houses. Hey house, that one of the Rugrats there's a party with a Reptar Bounty House in the back.
Starting point is 01:15:41 I like that. I like the Reptar Bounce House. Yeah, I like to be in a Reptow Bounce House. Angelica gets picked up at one point. Some, like, robot arm. Gotter and then you're, yeah, like, you're about to hit her and Godder picks her up, and then she's yelling at you. It also follows, like, Rugrats canon that none of the babies talk to you because you're not a baby.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Right, right. That's what, that's, all right, I appreciate that. Angelica does the talk. because she was talking in this. Okay, okay, that I like. Now, there's still other bizarre logic because, as I said, we're going to Nicktoon Studios. So you go into, yes, you go into a Rugrats house,
Starting point is 01:16:17 but before that, you go into the sound stage in which Rugrats is filmed. However, you don't see the backs of any sets or any lights or anything. You see a full immersive world implying that all of the cartoons are characters living their lives in a bubble,
Starting point is 01:16:35 in a Truman show. The Rugrats are in a Truman show, as are the fairly odd parents, as is bikini Bonn. They're all like ecosystems within square sound stages. You know, I did like the Jimmy Neutron as he's explained, in the pre-show video says,
Starting point is 01:16:50 and here's where they, and right at sea level is where they film SpongeBob. So let you know, like, oh, that's how it's underwater as they film SpongeBob. Like on the map, he points it like a puddle on the ground, or, well, you know, a body of water. Right. But they film it, but then you know it's, you're on a studio lot,
Starting point is 01:17:08 but then once you're in the world, there's no, like they're in a zoo. It's a zoo. All the characters live in a zoo. And we've recreated the desert and here's the aquarium part. But a lot of the other NICTunes are just walking around the streets between the soundstages and like, they're unhoused. They're unhoused. They don't, like taking a walk at lunch.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Like, day a walk in between works or filming. Well, that's a good. You know what? raise a good point. I guess they are allowed to leave. It's not like you're stuck in the world you're in. There's probably like a commissary that they can all go to when they're off, when
Starting point is 01:17:44 they're not filming the show. But then what of the underwater SpongeBob characters do? They can't go join the rest. Yeah, they just dry out. But are they? But Cosmo Wanda do have powers and they come into play a lot in the finale.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Well, isn't that weird to like, to speak like, oh, it's It's a different studio. But then when they crash through the wall for a fairly odd parents, then they're also teleported to Fairy World. It's like, this is mixing things here. Like, either they're teleported to Fairy World or Fairy World is a place within the set of the fairly odd parents, like, studio stage. Yeah, they do a full, you go somewhere else during, yeah, wait.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Yeah, it complicates things much more. It's like leftover Universal Studio like mandate, I'm assuming, where it's like has to have a sound stage. because why not just have it be like Nickland? And there's just different cities in Nickland. I guess they were still stuck with the exterior of the building is like a back lot thing. So they're like, oh, this is one of many. Yeah, could be that. But then he set up, all right, so Jimmy Neutron set up his new lab in the studio.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Sure. We're going into his lab and then we go blast off into Nickland. Yeah, just teleport. Yeah, I don't. And same, and two with like, well, a downside of it is they, I think they planned it of like, oh, this is right next to, like, I swear on the map, it was right next to NickTune Studios. So that's why it's like, this is Nicktoon Studios, right next to Nickelodeon Studios. And then Nickelodeon Studios is closed in like two or three years after they opened the ride of Jimmy Neutron's Nicktoon blast.
Starting point is 01:19:22 So the tie-in they have there is just dead immediately. Yeah. Right, right as Jimmy Neutron is probably also airing less and less on Nickelodeon as well in 2005 or 06. Yeah, this seems like it had an awkward, a decently sized awkward stretch of, oh my God, this show's not on, maybe Progress isn't on by that point. Like, I guess there's kind of a cultural footprint
Starting point is 01:19:45 to Rugrats even, you know, that was so big, but this got out of date. Yeah, I would think Fred Flintstone is laughing at them, like, oh, who's out of date now, Jimmy Neutron? Also, like, this ride is open and then Shrek 4D is across the street. Like, not my, for me, not my favorite era of park or animation.
Starting point is 01:20:08 I think I'm just saying a larger cultural footprint than Jimmy. Oh, that's true. No, but it did occur to me that like in the same year or so. Yeah. And we lose for, Streko's into. Alfred Hitchcock. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is tough.
Starting point is 01:20:23 This is this like, I don't know, Universalist Florida Mach 2, I think is bested by Mach 1 and by Mach 3. Oh, and King Kong must be going away around the same time too in the aughts, right? or did it make it to like around that time? Yeah, I forget it when exactly. Yeah. Awkward.
Starting point is 01:20:39 The second generation, there were growing pains, I feel, in a number of ways for universe. And didn't you also have like, mercy rate goes away for Hercules and Zina? Yes, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:52 That's second generation weird. It's across the board. Yeah. And the Jimmy Neutron ride, it is funny that ends up, it always ends up being a chase, like the Pan of Barbaran one was chasing something.
Starting point is 01:21:03 The minions is chasing somebody. Back to the future. Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon. It's usually a chase. It's usually a chase. It's more of a race than a chase. All right.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Fair enough. Yeah, this stretch of Universal is where you go on simulators based on TV shows starring a Jimmy. Whose popularity is decreasing gradually once the show is once the ride has been built. All of things that are instantly dated that aren't on TV anymore. That's true too. Yeah. Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, maybe you know the show, but the bit within the show.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Sorry, you're lost. What's Ublar? What's hashtag? Like, I had to look up like, okay, wait, Jimmy Neutron Chicken Dance. It's like, no, that's a callback from the big scene in the movie where everybody does the chicken dance. I was like, oh, okay. Oh, like, yeah. See?
Starting point is 01:21:56 This is a kind of a false ending to the ride is that it seems as the thing. things have wrapped up and resolved, but then the villain shows up one more time. And then your vehicle is my memory? What is the narrative purpose of the chicken dance? That he is making you dance. Oh, yeah, the vehicle, you know what, I'll give him credit that I think that was clever.
Starting point is 01:22:18 That it's like, oh, if you love the chicken dance scene in the movie, now the King Gublar will make you chicken dance in your seat. And so I think your seat moves along like you're doing it too. I was a judgey, because I'm, all right, when did I go? Either I did this in, I think I was there in 2003. I think I was there within the first year of this. So I'm like a, I'm a judgey college student. I'm not, I'm not the ideal kid audience of this.
Starting point is 01:22:49 And I'm all pissed off at Universal Studios. What am I doing? But I, and just harshly judging, like, chicken, what is this, like, wacky random? I did not, I was no fan of the. of that part of that. Well, then, Lama is appearing to, like this is all,
Starting point is 01:23:04 it's a lot of randau humor. It's just non-sequiturs. Yeah, yeah. There is a psychag. The Dali Lama appears for split second. That's true. In the Lama sequence. For the parents, right?
Starting point is 01:23:16 Yeah. Yeah, for Mama Dad. And they turn to each other and go, oh, oh, yeah. Well, Cosmo and Wanda, they were the ones I thought were, I liked that they were the flattest
Starting point is 01:23:24 and they don't, like, some of the other characters, like, they can move in 3D better. It looks like they, they, like, drew over a 3D model, but Cosmo and Wanda are just completely flat like JPEGs floating up and down. Yeah, I thought that too. Like the up and down, maybe that will disguise that they are not.
Starting point is 01:23:41 There's no plainal movement going on whatsoever with them. The biggest, on rewatch, the biggest laugh I had was in the SpongeBob ones. Like I felt SpongeBob was having the most fun. He's like, hey, Mrs. Puff, hey, secondary characters. Like that, that gave me a chunk. That's a lot of fun. That is like immediate, I mean, granted, we're watching it, you know, know, north of 20 years later, where SpongeBob is obviously iconic and we'll live forever.
Starting point is 01:24:06 But you do feel like, this is the star. What are we doing? We give this attraction. What a breath of fresh air he is. What a great voice he has of dynamic as opposed to, granted, he doesn't have to do any exposition and stuff. But like he really, he steals the show in the brief. I feel like you're only in SpongeBob world for 30 seconds or something. And then you're flushed out again. Yeah, it's like, I mean, I was trying to remember like, was, oh, wasn't there a Spong? SpongeBob thing? Yeah, in 08, there was a SpongeBob SquarePants 4D was a thing at like Paramount Parks. Let's talk about this. And there's a new newer one.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Yes, there is. At Circus. Circus. Oh, I didn't know this. So, yes, between all of these things, because we've talked about, we've never done an episode about SpongeBob SquarePants 4D, but it may be it's merited at some point because it's one of the, it's the most just like kicked around available theme park attraction ever. I was on a Wikipedia that didn't even say.
Starting point is 01:25:01 the number of places where it is available. It is impossible to count at this point. Because SpongeBob is just licensed to so many things and that attraction. I don't know. I guess it's easy to reproduce in a ton of places. But it got me thinking about SpongeBob attractions. I had one question.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Is Jimmy Neutron is Jimmy Neutron's Nicktoon Blast the first SpongeBob attraction? And technically the answer is no because two weeks prior Great America in NorCal opened something called SpongeBob's
Starting point is 01:25:32 boat mobiles. Just like kids ride literally two weeks before. So this is precisely the month in which SpongeBob is finally entering theme parks full force. One month later, SpongeBob SquarePants 4D
Starting point is 01:25:45 opens for the first time wherever that first opened. So big time for SpongeBob and Theme Parks. But it got me thinking, if you want to make a guess, how many separate SpongeBob attractions have ever been created
Starting point is 01:26:01 in the world of theme parks. And I'm not saying the multiple Spondrop 4Ds don't count as, I'm saying that's one, right? So concepts is what I'm talking about. I'm going to say seven. That's my guess. Right, 21.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Jason. I'm going to go in between and say 10. The closest would have to be Mike, because the answer is 26. Wow. Wow. Smart moves. and yet, I mean, that's, yeah, I think I would have gone more like Henry.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Like, that's insane to me because, yeah, you've got the new, you got the Vegas one. And then when you start adding up all that, like, because he's an American dream and he's in all the Paramount parks and ones that have gone. And then there's multiple, there's SpongeBob Squarefants 4D, but then there's SpongeBob Square vets 4D, the Great Jelly Rescue, different thing. That's a, you can go on, that's something you can do at a holiday in Orlando Suites. Oh, yeah. Because those used to be Nickelodeon suites. Nickelodeon-themed suites. And then it flipped the holiday in,
Starting point is 01:27:05 but I think they kept some of the attractions. Anyway, like maybe there's some broader SpongeBob dive at some point because there's so many of these, and Mall of America and Blackpool Pleasure Beach. He might, and he's in some sea worlds. Like SpongeBob might be maybe full penetration. I don't know why. Wow.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Let's talk about it. Look at some different. as it applies to SpongeBob Scrippin. No, just like he absolutely covers, that's a better way to put it, all of the non-Disney Universal Parks, but then also Universal Parks. So about all the non-Disney.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Well, it does seem like Paramounts ready to deal with anybody. Like, oh, if you've got the money for SpongeBob, we'll let you have them, like, because they don't have their own, or they're not that dedicated. No questions asked, full penetration. There's not folk. I was just thinking now, like,
Starting point is 01:27:57 What's the first Nick Tunes ride? I think it is Jimmy Neutron technically. Or that's SpongeBob. Ride maybe. There was something at Universal Hollywood called Totally Nickelodeon. That was kind of like a live game show. And then that was replaced by a very similar. This is in the former Star Trek, now Trek 4D space.
Starting point is 01:28:20 And there was also a something called Rugrats Magic Adventure. Okay. Was this a 3D movie? No, that was a suited movie. character. Oh, he saw pictures of that. Yes, that looks scary. Yeah, that looks like a horror show. Big regrets. Yeah, all grown up
Starting point is 01:28:35 to use their parlance. But still babies. The babies are all grown up. There's also Nickelodeon Splat City, which was at like Six Flags in Santa Clara. And according to this, King's Dominion. Wow. I went to Splat City. You lived in Splat City.
Starting point is 01:28:52 That's how I got the scar on my belly. That was from Splat City. That was from Splat City. That was from Splat City. Do we know this story? Yes, he's told the story before. You did, okay. I remind me.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Yeah. Did you say it was Splat City at the time? I think, well, it was, so at some point, briefly, there was the busy world of Richard's scary there. And then Paramount started converting it all to Nickelodeon stuff. And the one was like a big water player you run through all this water. Right. But there was also a loose thing of, like, change. main link fence and one of it just scratched like a two inch scratched like barely surface deep
Starting point is 01:29:33 on my belly but it just would not stop bleeding so we had to get like just a little bit out of time and it probably didn't help that like after that happened it just got pelted by chlorinated water from all directions you should have healed it right up and then well that's what i would think this was kings island huh this was king's island kings dominions yeah they were both at both places. Yeah, yeah. Just try to make me understand what their intent in putting a pointy chain link fence. If you were in their shoes.
Starting point is 01:30:06 You remember at DZ Discovery Zone? It's so sure. Chain link fence with the TVs playing. Like, it was like where you see commercials or music videos, this was an actual chain link fence. I think it was to make sure kids didn't run out of the water. tunnel and just bolted. So make sure you don't get too full of yourself. Here's a little slice.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Look, you're human, kid. Here's a reminder. I mean, it was that chain link. You're in that chain link that used to be covered in like green plastics so it would kind of blend in with like plants. That also, the plastic too
Starting point is 01:30:48 also gets sharp when the whole thing gets. Oh, it's like phrase. I know what you said. Yeah, yeah. So it was just a jagged thing. that and I perfectly ran by it because I was playing in the water. I wasn't paying attention to loose fencing.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Did any other children see it and scream? I don't know. Okay. You don't recall somebody, you didn't find out by like a girl three years younger than you. You're streaking. You're bleeding. You're sprained blood. Bleeding short little weirdo.
Starting point is 01:31:18 There were different attractions here. There's a whole list of what they had attractions at Splat City. So could we determine what attraction it was that you cut yourself at? Yeah, how long's the list? That's run the forensics, yeah. Yeah, let's hurry.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Green slime zone, an attraction that involved guests navigating a maze of pipeworks that randomly burst with water. It's got to be the green slam zone. You think it was? Green slime zone. There was also a slime bowl where you would see, like, movies.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Maybe, I think Splat City is an episode. We're calling that here. I guess so. I think we're going to Splat City. Sorry, Jason. Is there any way to, you still have the mark? Yeah, I got a lot of hair on.
Starting point is 01:31:56 my chest and belly now. I think I tried to see. First of all, shave it right there. And then just so we can get a good look at it. And then we'll compare it to the width of different types of fence material. Try to find archive. See if we can recreate the full. We'll compare my carving station scar and flat city scar. I'm pretty sure I demanded to see the scar the first time you ever brought it up.
Starting point is 01:32:18 And I think you said you couldn't see it very well anymore. Yeah, probably. I mean, we can. I started ripping at your clothes to. try to see it and it's not there. Take them off. Sorry, we're not that close, Henry. I'm just not.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Mike. I mean, literally, it's why you guys are recording at a decent distance right now, and that's why. We want to make sure you aren't able to reach out. You ain't his shirt off at any time. I know, I wish. There was all these different, like,
Starting point is 01:32:47 the mega messamania, which was a messy show, like Double Dare, apparently. Yeah, but not the Double Dare. Oh, that's funny. They call it mega messimedia, You're not like double dares, mega-mesimania? But there's a lot of different. Nick Toons Rockin' Countdown, a New Year's Eve millennium-themed version of the previous show,
Starting point is 01:33:05 complete with a simulated ball drop. A brand-new climactic game called Do Dills Diapers. Oh, I'm not doing shores on vacation. Yeah, yeah. Do you, if you ever want, hey, you, 13-year-old, you ever wanted to change a diaper? Yeah. Keep in mind, their last name is Pickle.
Starting point is 01:33:24 So this could be a stinky dipey. Stinky diaper. The paper stink typically determined by last name. So anyway, yeah. Because seeing the Jimmy Neutron stuff, I'm just like, I was jealous there wasn't a height of Nicktoons for me ride of some kind that, like,
Starting point is 01:33:44 combined all the characters and looked cool and not horribly unfinished. Yeah, like our childhood guys just have to be like quick little references. Right. Or are you 20? You don't, here, there's a second of Rocco.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Yeah. I wanted this. I want more. It's, I, the walk through or there's, the one I saw on YouTube ahead of this of like the, you know, full, full ride experience, pre show, post show, all that. It must have been near to the end of it when the, it was filmed because the, you know, the exit to the gift shop,
Starting point is 01:34:19 gift shop all SpongeBob and the character, mean, green, area there only SpongeBob with like permanent it wasn't like oh SpongeBob is in the general area that you would get a picture with any Nickton character no it was like the bikini bottom background and you know the the homes of the characters okay like so I mean did you guys see the Jimmy Neutron walk around that they built like you there's no way to make they look it just looks terrible that head is the wrong it's insane I mean what I saw is a photo of Jimmy Neutron on a jet pack at the opening ceremony Yeah. That's bonker.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Does he have long legs? Does he real long legs? They're pretty long. Because it's an adult in there. Not Nick Cage long legs, but like, yeah, he's really tall. Yeah. I think it's hard to, yeah, figure that out proportions. Probably the only guy in Orlando who knew how to operate the jetpack.
Starting point is 01:35:12 That's what I wonder. That guy's probably put on every costume he could put on. It's like he's the one jetpack guy in town. He's like, he's been Santa Claus. He's been goofy. He's been Jimmy Neutron. I like to say this town. works for me. I don't work for it.
Starting point is 01:35:26 If you find somebody else who has a jetpack at 5 o'clock? I don't think so. Time to blast, kid. Can I just say also there is no, there are no results for do dills diapers besides, then you just see different diaper-related
Starting point is 01:35:45 frame grabs, which I don't want to see, don't need to see. So I guess I really got to ask listeners here, did you do Dill Did you do Dill's diapers? Did you do Dills diapers? If so. Is that also wordplay?
Starting point is 01:35:59 Like, do, do, do? Uh-huh. Right? I mean, but more than I guess. I didn't say it was unpleasant. Did they just, is it just, I mean, maybe that you're right, but then also do they, is it, is it, Changing Dills Divers just has no appeal whatsoever. It's like they have to do a euphemism for, for changing.
Starting point is 01:36:20 There's, I see Nick Toons rockin's rockin' countdown. here, which is what it's, that was in, supposedly, part of. All right. So perhaps that's where we'll find out the answers. Let's reserve these. And if you have any information, again, if you did Dill's diapers, please contact us. And then the SpongeBob attractions, we got to get through. There's a SpongeBob attraction brand new one year ago in a SpongeBob land at a park called the Land of Legends in Turkey.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Oh, wow. What is this? When you're across land a land, entirely. new, March 1st, 2025, entirely new, I mean, it's like a Nick land with, I think, SpongeBob and... Do they have turtles in there? I don't think turtles. I think it's,
Starting point is 01:37:03 I think maybe Paw Patrol, possibly. Snoose. Wow. The Iranians were right about there really are no heroes in America besides Spider-Man and SpongeBob. The Spongebob, it's so crazy, they just missed when SpongeBob was like,
Starting point is 01:37:21 if they had released the ride in like 05 or 04, then they would have known SpongeBob is like their number one guy, no stop at him character, and they would have known to make it just the SpongeBob ride. But they're stuck with Jimmy Neutron until they
Starting point is 01:37:37 close the thing. Like probably to like renegotiate the deal, they'd probably have to pay a whole lot more to like remake it the SpongeBob ride, I would think. Yeah, and now they're now like that's all going to be in a very different corporate umbrella unless antitrust stuff makes that not happen. I don't know. It's just
Starting point is 01:37:53 gets more and more complicated. So SpongeBob is, I don't know. I mean, either way. Merger or no merger, Spongebob will be 26 more new attraction. I think in Orlando there is still, at Universal Orlando, I think SpongeBob still has a footprint there because I think it's still open the Spongebob store pants. Yeah, SpongeBob store pants. I went in last time.
Starting point is 01:38:14 It's really fun. You can go through the pineapple, there's photo stuff. There's so much SpongeBob merch, and they're like hanging around, SpongeBob and Patrick. I feel like are hanging around. That must justify how they can still keep the photo ops and all the character stuff there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:30 Also, have you guys seen the like, my husband has shown me these. My husband, I am old in that my husband who's like eight years younger than me. He's like, here, let me show you TikToks. These are what people talk about. But one of them is. That's Jason for us.
Starting point is 01:38:45 That's right. And I'm only 43 listeners. I'm not that. But that's those lines that separate you. You're an age to not like Jimmy Neutron. and we're all, most of us are of an age to not be on TikTok. But he'll show me like the Squidward Dabbing memes. Like those must all be filmed at like Orlando.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Well, now, yeah, here's the story about that. So Squidberg Dabbing was in a parade at Universal. That worker got fired for doing that. Oh, okay. I heard through the great pod. And Jason called the police on. I called the police. But then a while back, I forget whether it was Comic Conner,
Starting point is 01:39:20 they were just selling it online. They were selling dabbing Squidward, action figures. So they profited off it and then a guy got in trouble just because he was trying to be silly in a parade. He gave them so much free advertising. I know. Meanwhile, Megatron can say whatever he wants at universal. Nobody's stopping his brand that no one's managing. He's quite prickly.
Starting point is 01:39:45 Boy, I got to say, though, Squidward dabbing, I got to get on TikTok. I'm missing out. Why didn't anybody tell me? That's what they got going on over there. I will say the look of Jimmy Neutron, it is more visually, I, on like Roku suggested on the Roku homepage. It said the stream nightmare is happening. It said, like, free to watch the emoji movie. I watched the first five minutes of that.
Starting point is 01:40:19 That might be the ugliest thing I've ever seen. like oh I'd rather watch Jimmy Neutron than this. Than the emoji movie? They're like, oh, they're in the, they all live in your phone, but they're trying to get promoted to the app, the messaging app. Is it that they're like, I think I snuck into a theater that was playing it and didn't watch the full thing? Isn't it that like they're like they're at like a bar and they're like in position
Starting point is 01:40:46 and waiting to be chosen? No, it's a city. It's a whole city. So their lives, their jobs are what emoji they are, but they have to do the best job at being like meh or poop to get upgraded to messaging. Yeah, there's other like, yeah. So there's a bunch of poops and you got to be the best poop?
Starting point is 01:41:11 They pull the trigger on the poop gag real fast. Okay. Before that, it's just T.J. Miller MET emoji trying to impress this. parents who are also met emojis. It doesn't sound like you like this movie. Yeah, I was not really enjoying this experience. It wasn't a great... Russell, Jason is dead. It's the first movie
Starting point is 01:41:30 you haven't liked in five years. Yeah. Don't figure. He didn't like the emotion. Meet Smiler. Smiler. Smiler. Maya Rudolph is Schmiler. Good for her. Meanwhile, Jimmy Neutron is like, well, he's just the Bob's big boy
Starting point is 01:41:47 hair, right? Like her... Yeah. A Meet the D-Daddle look kind of thing. That's only the poster, isn't it? That's so confusing. Multiple people I've encountered. He's say, Meet the D-Dil. That's a movie with the surf-haired guys.
Starting point is 01:42:01 No. No. That shows you what a bad poster it was. It made you think they're surf-haired guys. I only know it for being a home to a Weezer B-side. That's what I told me the Beatles from. What's the Wieser B-Side? I want to say it's Michael and Carly are the like, do you believe?
Starting point is 01:42:17 It's a good song. Good one? I think it's that. I actually don't know if it's on there. I know that because it's on the blue. It's like on the deluxe blue. Right. Michael and Carly.
Starting point is 01:42:26 It was. It was in that age. Michael, M-Y-K-E-L. There's only like four, but there were only like seven Weezer songs that weren't on the first two albums as opposed to now when there's like 800 Weezer songs I haven't listened to.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Well, when you find long-time sunshine for the first time, you go, oh my God. How is this not on an album? You try to track down Suzanne after you watch the end of all, at. Well, yes, Suzanne, yes. That's a, that's much more famous, though, compared to what we're talking about. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 01:42:58 No, the Jimmy Neutron, look, I added out. He's like, now I'm wondering if kids are more into them now. I occasionally do see, like, memes from the youngers of referencing characters from it, or they actually had, like, an attempted spinoff. No, they had a spin-off, but it got canceled in one season starring the, I believe the character's name is Sheen, who's the comic book fan. character, like, who loves, he has a, every show has to have a fake comic book character that a character likes.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Which, this came up on a podcast where, and I could not remember which episode, it feels pandemic era to me, where we discovered that Sheen exists. And I believe in the same course of discussion, we realize there's a Jimmy Neutron character that's an alien named Travoltawn. Really? Yes. I got somebody to text. Wow.
Starting point is 01:43:47 One of these three, there are Ziportron. T and Travoltaon who are aliens Interesting So I think we went through Sheen and Travoltaon like five years ago Deep pandemic This all was covered
Starting point is 01:44:03 In a few days I think so Somebody a listener will tell us maybe That is a better memory than us Wow But I'm pretty sure they all popped up at the same time The wickedly talented Jick and T
Starting point is 01:44:14 Also on the ride Do you think they had to like pay or negotiate with the Elvis estate to have like, they say Elvis and it's an Elvis costume. Like they don't they don't call it like famous singer or Southern singer or something. It's a good question, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:31 I'm reading that Travoltaon was a parody of John Travolta. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. It would... But I assume it's a parody of like Saturday night fever John Travolta. Yeah, yeah. Not award show pit bull friend John Travolta that we're obsessed with it's not Palm Door winner. Well, if he's an email alien,
Starting point is 01:44:47 it could be a battlefield or thing then, right? Oh, interesting. Maybe that is what it is. Yeah. He might kind of have some old dreads. Yeah. See, again, in the movie, like in the ride, too, they keep calling back to the movie. And I just know it is like when the big poltar, the giant chicken monster.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Paltra? Yeah, when that comes out, I then check like, that's in the movie, right? Like, yes, yeah. It's like, it's the big monster of the movie. So when he's like, you're supposed to be going like, whoa, the big monster of the movie's back. I thought they killed it. Oh, no. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:22 It really expects you to be a fan of the Jimmy Neutron film. Which was a big hit. Nominated. Yes. It was overshadowed by Shrek at the box office, too, but it did. It was a box office success as well. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:37 Wow. Yeah. Also, I felt, I have me and Bob on our podcast, I felt the burn of the divide of elder, elder and younger millennial. Sure, sure. When we covered Shrek 2 and we were not into Shrek 2 and thought it was not good, we really heard it from our listeners. Our wonderful listeners who are great,
Starting point is 01:45:57 and if you grew up with Shrek 2 and loved it, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, yes, definitely. You said that with a lot of fear in your voice, I want to point out. No, and I just let go. People are very nice. Did they defend Shrek in the 3 and 4? You know, basically we said, oh, Shrek 2 sucks,
Starting point is 01:46:16 and we're like, you don't even know how bad, Trek 3 and 4 again was basically I think we heard like. Trek 2's the good one is especially as compared to 3 and 4. Henry, let me ask you that, do you remember when the one Puss and Boots movie came out
Starting point is 01:46:31 and everyone on the internet lost their minds? The last wish, the recent one? Yeah, the last wish. Yes, yeah, yeah. Which I did see it. I would say it was good. I was, I had rock bottom expectations for it. I did, I did like it. I did. They snuck
Starting point is 01:46:47 in good animation in it. Yeah. In DreamWorks. Like they basically do like Spider-verse style animation during fight scenes and it really breaks what I expected from what I imagine was the very
Starting point is 01:46:59 stayed DreamWorks style which that's an out-of-date perception I have DreamWorks. Dreamworks animation does lots of different styles. Why do people lose their minds? I think people were just very defensive of it. Like people were defending the honor
Starting point is 01:47:13 of Puss and Boots the last Twitch. So you're saying people making fun of it initially and then people were defending it? I think people, well, no, people were defending it with their lives, and I think they were defending it from a gentle teasing. Or like, why, as so many adults, pledged their fealty to Puss and Boots the last wish? Were people horny for Puss and Boots?
Starting point is 01:47:36 Is that part of it? Very romantic figure. That's what I'm wondering. Is that part of it? I think they were pulled in by, it has a lot of therapy speak in it, too, of like, it is about, like, acceptance of death. and panic attacks like Puss and Boots needs to get over his panic attacks Puss and Boots has panic attacks?
Starting point is 01:47:53 Yes, yeah. I don't like that. Sounds like a blast. I don't know. Isn't he like a fun like lover character? John Mullaney is also very funny. He is he plays a little, the guy who sticks his thumb in a pie
Starting point is 01:48:05 and pulls it out that fable character. Tom. Jason? Yeah. No, no, not Tom thumb. Who puts his finger on? Uh, shit. Little boy blue?
Starting point is 01:48:14 Little boy blue. That's a, yeah. That's, yes. He's very, it actually is a good movie, I have to say. And I'm a Shrek hater. But also is funny, it ends with the promise of, if you like this movie, we're going back to Shrek. Like he's, he's like, after spoilers, he survives the movie. He doesn't die in it.
Starting point is 01:48:33 And Puss and Boots, he's like, I need to go see my friends. And it ends with it. The tease, like almost post-credit tease, it's like he's about to arrive at far, far away of like, you're going to see Shrek. Shrek will be back. Oh. Oh, yes. I need to teach Shrek that it's okay to have a panic attack.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Normalize. Shrek, it's okay to be scared. Just breathe. It's okay to be scared. I think the next Shrek movie, since it is about like his kids are adults now showing him TikToks, that it is going to be like,
Starting point is 01:49:04 his kid goes away to college and he feels old and sad. Like it'll be an empty nester movie. Like the second record Ralph movie is about my kid went to college and I feel old. Like that's what record Ralph too is about.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Well, the twins, I think, are at college. I don't think Zendaya has left the nest yet. I wonder if they're going to kill one of the kids even. Like, I like it. Like in Avatar, one of the kids, like they, we got one kid too many. Let's kill one of the kids. They're going to kill Harry Stiles, Furkel?
Starting point is 01:49:32 Boy, and it wouldn't be sad, though? Isn't it Harry Styles and someone else? Marcello or Hernandez? It could be Marcel. There's a lot of kids. I think Marcello is one of them, yeah. No, wait, yes. You're thinking of, you're thinking of Eros and. A.K. Star Fox says, that's Harry Stiles.
Starting point is 01:49:49 From Marvel Comics. From the Turtles? Oh, yeah, yeah. Is he a post-credit scene? Is that right in the Turtles? Yep, yep. It's him and Pip, the troll, played by Padden Oswald, my kid. Oh, man. Someday, Eternals, too, we'll get to see Star Fox and Pip. Together together with all our favorite Eternals. Oh, post-credits. Well, I was only two and a half hours away from seeing that post-credits. You can't fast forward, I guess.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Hard, hard, hard asleep. Okay, I guess on the way out the door, any closing thoughts, memories, wishes, desires for the, do anyone want to defend the honor of Jimmy Neutron Puss and Boots style, or do we feel like this was kind of a relic of its time to... Well, usually at a very short wait, and it was a good place to wait out the rain. And most importantly, for my lure,
Starting point is 01:50:42 the cool dog stand was parked right outside. The cool dog stand. Say more. Cool dogs, you know, hot dog shaped like ice creams. This was at Universal Studio? Oh, very briefly. But I only recently found out... For a week in 2007.
Starting point is 01:51:01 I only recently found out that cool dogs based in New England, people who grew up in New England. Oh, was a brand cool dog with like this. Ice cream hot talk. So they had this at Universal? They had it very briefly at Universal. I learned about it from an episode of Unwrapped. But they might have had it at Fenway Park for a little while.
Starting point is 01:51:22 So you remember having a cool dog over by this ride? Over in this neck of the woods, yeah. Wow, can we find documentation of when Universal decided to cancel their partnership with Cool Dog? Jason, tell me about your life. Well, on time. outside Jimmy Neutron's Nicktoon blast. Something amazing happened to me.
Starting point is 01:51:45 That to me looks better than a chaco taco taco. I'd rather have a fake hot dog. That was the bun. This is the key I think issue in would I like a cool dog? Well, hold well, the bun was sponge cake. Okay. This looks some of the pictures look good and then this
Starting point is 01:52:01 picture looks like disgusting to me. It's the sausageified and sort of inverted anus at the end of the cool tie off of the sausage. Yeah. Yeah, that's a little bit. That looks really weird to me.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Yeah. Because it makes it look not, well, penis-ish, I guess. Well, but Mike, they would put rainbow sprinkles on top with the chocolate sorrow. The picture with the sprinkles I like, but this picture with this angle where I'm getting the end of it is very penis-like. And then it looks like it's just like all the blood has been drained from it. And it's like, it's a gray penis. Yeah. It's a gray penis.
Starting point is 01:52:35 A gray sickly long penis. In a bun of a Spun made of SpongeCase. It was pure white. Thank you very much. I like as Jimmy Neutron as a thing, I more just feel sad that like Nicktoons as a branding is over. Like the Nick tunes continue, there's like eight different SpongeBob TV shows on TV. And briefly, there was a fair. Are they the count as movies if they're all just on TV?
Starting point is 01:53:03 Yes, my wife made that show, yes. Yes, yeah, there should have been more of that fairly odd pair of it. They're not making a lot over there. these days. That's what I'll say. Well, the whole... That's we're waiting for the merger. You know, what's the merger? The whole Nickelodeon.
Starting point is 01:53:16 merging for eight years. And I'm sure it'll be quick now. It got bought... It got bought by real life plankton and Mr. Crabbs. So they really relate to the content much. So, yeah, I like that
Starting point is 01:53:31 there was at least a ride that was the general Nicktoon brand before they even just like dumped that branding for just individual cartoons. And It came when, like, the tween market really popped up and, like, they had to have all of their own Hannah Montana things to keep up with it. Like, Hannah Montana was so huge that they invested way more in the live action shows that, you know, this whole documentary about making those live action teen shows. Oh, about how fun it was? Oh.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Yeah, yeah. Okay. But so it's nice to see the cartoons that didn't hurt anybody having a good time. than probably people being stiffed financially. Sure, okay. Seems like the 90s Viacom way. Right. Stimpy in there is a little, you know, that's not good. Just to Google John K. What's he been?
Starting point is 01:54:21 Oh, that's. Who? Uh-oh. Okay. Well, you know, as Homer Simpson says, everything's bad if you remember it. Great advice. And I have to, looking at this, this lasted like eight years. And before it, fantastic Cana Barbarre was like 11. it really does make me think like, boy, the minions really got it.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Like they have lasted 14 years and counting in that same building. And with no sign of stopping, they got another ride in addition to the minions mayhem. Yeah, they expanded. They added on. Yeah. That's pretty impressive. So, yeah, well, good for them. I guess people like the minions.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Yeah. And, you know, this is definitely a fun area to talk about with all of the cartoons that it hit and thanks for taking us on your Japan adventures as well. Henry Gilbert, you survived podcast The Ride. Thanks for joining us while you're in town. A pleasure to see you. Let's exit through the gift shop through the store pants.
Starting point is 01:55:21 Is there anything you'd like to plug? Oh yeah, well, I co-host the podcast Talking Simpsons with Bob Mackey and we've been doing it for 11 years now and you guys have all been on multiple times talking about the most reason was Mike on for Itchy and Scratchy Land
Starting point is 01:55:37 to talk about that perfect theme park episode. Sure. So if listeners haven't checked those out in the archives, please please see.
Starting point is 01:55:44 You can start there if you're a theme park fan. And we are supported on Patreon. We've been doing for 11 years,
Starting point is 01:55:50 our full-time job on Patreon at patreon.com slash Talking Simpsons where we cover tons of bonuses. We do a movie every month where we
Starting point is 01:55:58 cover an animated movie crazy in depth like for four or more hours about the history and going through the film. We just did, though this would be hidden in this room,
Starting point is 01:56:07 I think. We do a live action cartoon every year as one of the movies, and we just did Teenie Ninja Turtles 2, The Secret of the U's. Oh, wonderful. Classic film. That page Dr. Co. is April. Yeah, that's your, you over, over Judith, that's the, we were just discussing. We just discussed it.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Oh, yeah, no offense to Judith who's great. But I was more of a Turco kid. And, yeah, we have a Tercow family. You were a Turco family. That one's okay. That one's okay. That one's okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:38 And it's all on patreon.com slash Talking Simpsons or look for Talking Simpsons or what a cartoon where you listen to a podcast and I am on Blue Sky and Instagram as Talking Henry
Starting point is 01:56:47 if you'd like to follow me there. Excellent, excellent. Yes, well, you make a great show and you give us a good time here. So thank you so much. As for us, for three bonus episodes every month, check out podcast The Ride the Second Gate
Starting point is 01:57:00 or get one more bonus episode in our VIP Tier Club 3. You will find all of that at the aforementioned website, Patreon, specifically Patreon.com slash podcast the ride. We should find that thing where you recommend other shows, and I think we've done that very little.
Starting point is 01:57:15 We should look up, that's what we should. All right, I'll try to find where that box is. For recommend, we can do a trade. And if we could recommend John Travolta's movie on there somehow. And yes, yeah, well, and of course, yeah. And your sequel. Well, we'll just do an out loud ad for the movie, which is of course called, the movie that I'm doing the sequel of is of course called.
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