Podcast: The Ride - Justice League: Battle for Metropolis

Episode Date: September 10, 2021

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Forever. Dog. Warning, the following podcast features Mrs. Taz, abandoned gas grills, teens that live in Valencia, and the famous superheroes Batman, Superman, and Scottie Pippen. All this, plus Scottie Gairdner takes his first trip to Six Flags Magic Mountain on today's podcast, The Ride.

Welcome to Podcast The Ride, the only theme park podcast that blasts you with blue fog at the top of every episode. I'm Jason Sheridan, joined as always by Scott Gairdner. There it is. Unless it was out. Unless we didn't distribute it properly to all the phones. We use Six Flags Fog People, so you never know. Yeah, it's very possible it's sputtering like a poorly up-kept 4D theater. Mike Carlson also here. Yes, I'm here, and I'm also disappointed that our fog isn't always so on point, that our fog blasts aren't just always really stunning fog blasts. We really should, I don't know.

Do we have to pay more money? Or do people like that? Do they like the charm of our fog blasts? Maybe that's what they like. They may like that. They don't like the decreased projection against Joker gas, against laughing gas. But this is not laughing gas.

This is just fog. Fog, as some people might call it. Well, it's like the fog that Cyborg developed to protect you from the joke. Right, right. But I'm saying your fog, I think I say fog more if we're talking pronunciation. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean,

you're in the Midwest right now. Your accent may be slipping back in. Yes, that is true. We're going to give you a little peek behind the curtain. I am in the Midwest right now. Your accent may be slipping back in. Yes, that is true. We're going to give you a little peek behind the curtain. I am in the Midwest at the moment. And yeah, I could say, I could go back. I could call soda pop.

I could do a whole number of different things that would show my true roots because I'm feeling it here. It just rained. That doesn't happen in Southern California. So I'm really, I'm feeling it. I'm feeling like a kid again To be honest with you You dripping?

Did you bring some rainwater? Did you splash it onto the mic? I like that as a phrase to see how you're doing Hey, you dripping? Yeah, I went out for a second I am not dripping I will say that It's also very close to Pippin, which, of course, Scotty Pippin, a Chicago Bull, longtime Chicago Bull, who had a juice box called Scotty Pippin Zippin in the mid-90s.

Really? It reminds me of that as well, which all, again, childhood. I'm here. I'm in Schaumburg, Illinois. So, yeah, i'm feeling it you know my dad has interacted with scotty pippen on a golf course i think you have told us this before but but i don't remember the details i think you may have run into him several times um and they're uh the details are mildly embarrassing because uh you, you know, any big Scott Gerner

heads up there, I'm sure there's thousands to millions of you. Uh, there's a video I did a long time ago called Beatles 3000. And the idea is that it's a video, uh, it's, it's a documentary done way in the future of, uh, people trying to figure out what the Beatles were a thousand years ago using like poorly constructed, like you could, there's barely any information. It's just the ruins of civilization. And can we figure out what the Beatles were? And due to a poorly reconstructed photograph,

they think that Scottie Pippen was the fourth Beatle. And so he's like rendered in the video in Beatles fashion, like an artist rendering and just, you know, the name worked well, I thought. And, uh, like, so that's fun. My dad thought, oh, this is a good thing to talk to him about. Maybe he's been made aware of this video. I would have known. Sorry, continue.

Uh, he, well, you know, and so, so he just went up to him, like found him, you know, between holes or something and walked up and like, Scotty, what's going on? You ever heard of this video? It's a video. It's on. It's a Beatles video. It's on the YouTube channel. It's on Scott Gardner and he's on the YouTube like his poor way of explaining what anything is current. So that's already he's at a deficit there. This is also the COVID era, so nobody should be charging up to anybody anywhere even though people are careful on the golf course. But I think, I believe

Scotty just kind of like blinked and nodded and like, huh? Okay, no, I don't know what you, sorry. Gotta go. Bye. I think this is an extremely awkward interaction. The video is not familiar to him. Despite going viral,

somehow it didn't make its way to his desk. Yeah. And anybody in the Pippin enterprise, what do you do? You gotta keep him aware of how he's being represented in culture, especially internet viral culture in 2009.

So, or else, you know, dads end up in awkward situations like that. That could have really protected your father from that. Yeah. He could have said like, Oh,

of course I know it. It's my favorite video. Yeah. It's better than any bulls highlight. I ever watch. That's my favorite thing that I ever was a part of. You know, Mr. Gairdner, you said it was.

I, for a long time, wondered if my place in pop culture was set. And I wasn't sure, no matter how many rebounds I got or points I scored. But when I saw that video, I knew that I was for the ages. So thank you, sir. And bless your son. Man, what could have been. And the last thing I'll say real quick about Scotty, before we actually get to the actual topic, is that Scotty has his own bourbon now called Digits. And it's only carried around here. And you better believe I'm getting Scotty

Pippen's Digits bourbon while I'm in Chicago. I'm very excited. He also has a popcorn called Husk that he's been promoting that I'm very interested in He also has a popcorn called Husk. That he's been promoting. That I'm very interested in as well. But Digits is really my main focus at the moment. Sorry. Has he been promoting it? Or has he been involved in the popcorn recipe? It's unclear with Husk.

And I apologize for not knowing more. He seems to be less featured. As far as in the Husk marketing. But Digits seems to be much more his thing. What does Digits refer to? Oh, I forget. I should know that, but I don't. But what you're saying is you could wash

down some Husk popcorn with some Digits bourbon. That's correct. Because I liked, believe it or not, I'm not the biggest sports fan in the world, but my two teams were the 1990 Chicago Cubs and then, of course, the Chicago Bulls, which were like, you know what? I'm going to tie it back. Watch this.

I liked the Chicago Bulls so much at the time because they felt to me like the Justice League or the Avengers. They felt like superheroes. They all were fascinating in their own way. Obviously, they were just unstoppable and that is a big part of why I still have so much affection for the Chicago Bulls. That's how I felt about the Dream Team

which Scottie Pippen was also on. It felt like, oh this is like when the All-Stars, it's like a bigger All-Star game that's beyond one night and I like that they wear different clothes for the All-star game. Yes, they have different uniforms. The most different, because they wear all white,

as if they'd been magically transformed in a Captain EO kind of way. Right. It's all very magical. Right. It's like when the Avengers in Endgame go back in time, and they have to put on their time suits. So it's like they're different superheroes now for the dream team get together. This is, by the way, real sad for the context that certain people's brains have to get into to be very into sports i

am aware of that but this is just all outfit oriented it's outfit oriented did you see the behind the scenes stuff that was going around where it's like those time suits they wore, which are very just like beige, beige-y white, like were largely CG. You're talking about the Avengers, not the Dream Team. Yes. Okay.

No, the Dream Team was practical. The Avengers time suits were. Okay, good. To get that perfect washed out beige, washed out red, they had to put the dots and everything on them yeah there's a lot of funny like superhero behind the scenes footage that i and i think we maybe talked about this not long ago uh there's a scene in black widow where they're just that sort of a rest stop truck stop thing and black widow's there with her sister and they're talking at a bench or

whatever and it would turned out like that the whole thing was green screened in the background and it's just a very mundane place like i don't know why that would have to be the uh place where you'd have to use green screen so it's like nighttime and there's one other table in the background right right so so i am always amused actually when i see some of the behind the scenes stuff for superhero movies because yeah it will be like the costume will somebody's wearing like a bracelet and there's just dots there where they have to digitally insert the brace like the very mundane bracelet or something so you couldn't buy a bracelet the actor wasn't willing to grow their hair out so you couldn't put it like a wig there you put like a string of dots at that point just put a hair extension on no it's too hard because then you can manipulate the hair better in post i guess so you can make it catch the light exactly exactly yeah yeah no

it's better to just yeah just just do it all in post um that was a beautiful way of tying it back into the topic i'm gonna go ahead and untie it okay go ahead and say that i've now learned that husk is no mere popcorn. This is an organic. Yes, yes. I knew that. Super food popcorn with unconventional flavor. You say unconventional. I say awful sounding like cayenne and ginger, kale and broccoli. How much kale are you getting in popcorn?

Have you ever tried, though, like kale chips that are like cheddar kale chips before? Those are good. That sounds familiar. Oh, I'm not against. Look, kale in things is I'm not unilaterally against. I think popcorn is an odd place to try to jam it. There's barely any food in popcorn. It's almost like eating flavored paper, you know?

Where are you even inserting these flavors? Yeah, I don't know. It's a good question. I'm more, Lindsay is a big popcorn fan, so I have had more popcorn in the last so many years, and I do, I'm a little, I'm intrigued now. I wouldn't have been intrigued 10 years ago, but I am more intrigued now by Husk,

the organic popcorn endorsed by Scotty Pippen. Does one bag being $5, how does that affect your intrigue? Now, buy Husk, the organic popcorn endorsed by Scotty Pippen. One bag being $5, how does that affect your intrigue? Well, Jason obviously is going to be reeling from that price. How big a bag are we talking? 154 grams. I'm sorry, the information I have to present to you is unusable because who can picture what a gram is? We're going to have to do some conversions. I'm sorry. This is not the research that you're not equipped here, thanks to the grams.

Well, I just learned about husk and digits. So, Mike, are you going to a local watering hole, like the old bears dive, the bears-themed dive bar to get like a shot of digits or you're getting a bottle? Still in the pandemic, I'm not going to go to probably a dive bar for a while so I will probably get a bottle of it as opposed to going to downtown and going to Ditka's or something if that's what you're thinking.

Going to Ditka's or going to Jordan's Steakhouse. I wonder if Jordan's Steakhouse carries digits. that would be an interesting question That would be yeah And if it doesn't Then why Can we get a multi-part documentary series On that decision

Or lack thereof Did we all watch The Last Dance Yes I could do Give me a documentary on every game as far as those seasons are concerned. Oh yeah. No,

they should just like, and throw us all the rough, but I think who, like we all devoured it when the pandemic started by May or June, if they just said, here's all the dailies, wouldn't you have watched them? Oh,

a hundred percent. Yes. And I also, every piece of her, just let me just watch Jordan sit down And get back up and ask for water Watch the levels Of his cup

Of his glass of tequila Rising and falling What's getting poured in there What's the drink of choice I also want it from Every bowl's vantage point Because obviously that's like very Jordan Centric as far as the retelling of all the things. So give me a full last dance told from Tony Kukoc's perspective, from Randy Brown's perspective, from any of the other Chicago bowls.

I am interested in all of it. That's how obsessed I am with it. And obviously, America as well. Yeah. And if Kukoc has any uh liquor food endeavors um i'd like to know about those as well i would all invest yeah we're all going in we'll all invest in tony kukoc's endeavors food or otherwise vodka yeah uh whatever it is okay all right so let's tie it back in it's a superfood popcorn the rides about superheroes there we're back we're in and it is

justice league it is six flags justice league battle for metropolis uh which has been touched on on the show a little bit before and in various ways because we've talked about uh our trips to six flags we've talked about uh all the rides based on batman but we left this one out because it's kind of its own thing but the big big headline here is it's really like what, what the ride is that most six flags rides are not. It is a dark ride. It is a screen ride. It involves IP.

We in a bigger, we in a robotic manner. It's not just IP in that, like the name was used and put on a ride that has a green track or a blue track and that's the color of the hero. It's an interactive ride, a 3D ride, a shooting ride. This is all

genres that Six Flags has not really tackled and they started doing it, I think these all went in circa 2015 through 2017. Yes. Animatronics as well. There's a big animatronics component uh depending on how much money you want to spend there might be more animatronics um but yeah it is i i i think generally positive uh development i would love to see more of it because frankly i

think if you're talking about big characters big intellectual property I don't think any has been more squandered in theme parks than the DC comics Superman and Batman and Wonder Woman like the biggest some of the biggest most

recognizable characters in the world we did the episode it could have been a year ago it could have been a year ago it could have been three weeks ago as far as batman the rides um and yeah we kind of came to that conclusion there there are some okay you know you add in the other we add in superman wonder woman and all that and then it's like really like egregious it's it's truly insane these characters are not better utilized right yeah um This also felt like When this was announced I think people

Were maybe getting their hopes up and maybe I'm just speaking about myself or Jason I guess said it too people were like oh maybe Six Flags is now going to kind of Get in the game as far as being a more Well rounded park And do more of this type of thing But I don't think there's

Any talk of that, right? We're almost, this year's almost over. There's no like announcement that there's a new dark ride coming to Six Flags, right? I don't think so, which is a shame because I think number two of squandered intellectual properties is the Looney Tunes characters.

Like, I mean, at theme parks and movies, let's be frank at this point, we're all, after this past summer we're all like begging for like back in action looney tunes quality no more basketball talk we have to talk about the justice league uh yes well that's okay because basketball not a huge component in uh space jam i don't know i don't know the movie you were watching there's an hour-long basketball game i in which the points don't matter. Yeah, that's.

Like whose line is it anyway? Right. It's all about bonus games. Some extraneous. Yeah. Basketball. Told, not showed. What's the term?

Yeah. Doing the opposite of most screenwriting Techniques So yeah I think that Looney Tunes yeah Six Flags I think people were like Oh wow maybe Six Flags now like Every other year we'll get maybe like a new Dark ride and then the Six Flags Parks could get a little bit more yeah

Transformed well rounded Not that they have to be Disney or Universal but It is nice to go on a Robot ride in between a ride that's gonna to rattle your brain or crush your genitals. That's nice. Yes. Yeah. Well, and this ride existing gave me a good reason to make my first proper trip to Six Flags Magic Mountain.

As I've said before, despite growing up in Los Angeles, I never went because it's all rides that scare me. And besides doing a fairly depressing Christmas drive-through when we were in super lockdown back in December, that was the first time I was ever on the ground. So this Justice League caused me to go for the first time i was ever on the ground so this is the this uh justice league caused me to go for the first time as a regular uh paying customer so now i'm i'm coming to the table with my first magic mountain there's a lot here exciting and jason and i are comic book boys as we know we're marvel boys we are also dc boys too i don't want to i don't want to shortchange dc

yeah i don't want to either i mean my notes, I don't want to either. I mean, my notes have the phrase speed, force, and hyper time in them, you know, and I'm sure we'll get to that. We'll talk about favorite Flash. Who's your favorite Flash? You know? Wally West. 90s Wally West. But, you know, we'll get back to that. Yeah, we'll get back to that.

I was going to say Bart Allen, Impulse, but then he was Kid Flash, but okay. I don't know if you count him him. Yeah, close number two. You've found him fully as a Flash. Anyway, let's go ahead. I'd go Drew Montcreef would be mine. Yeah, a little known Flash, but still beloved. No, the real heads.

Beloved by, yeah, the real hardcore. Yeah, sidekick to Max Mercury, cousin to Jesse Quick, you know. Of course, of course, of course. Yeah, of course. So let's start, man's let's start man let's start with scott's day i think yeah i would love to yeah yeah because there was oh yes good oh i was gonna say did you did you go up did you happen to hit one of the days during the heat wave when you were there no i was actively avoiding it yeah i, I've been eyeing temperatures for the last couple of weeks because it's been getting a little crazy.

And Santa Clarita is a little hotter than where we live. There was a day where we didn't end up doing it because it was north of 100. So I'm glad we avoided that. So one detail everybody should know about me going, and this sort of helped triangulate everything, is there is a friend of mine, a friend of ours, a friend of the show, Buzz, Buzz, Skittle, Scattle, told me that he had a free ticket somehow to Magic Mountain. And he was just asking me, like, you know, is it worth going? Is there stuff to check out? I realized, like, oh, maybe we could do something for the show. I would love to go.

And that's where my friend told me that despite, well, despite being, he didn't call himself this, but despite being the most dangerous man in podcasting, he is apparently not into big old thrill rides. And he did not even want to go on. So he was asking me, is there stuff to do if we don't go on big roller coasters and i'm like well this is fantastic because this is my way to go to magic

mountain without being goaded into doing a bunch of stuff that i don't want to do so unfortunately for the listener i'm not i can't tell any stories about getting my nuts crushed or uh screaming my my vocal cords out at the top of Tatsu or whatever. I did almost nothing. I was in a safe space where both of us were avoiding things like that. I see. So you didn't even do any roller coaster. Did you do anything roller coaster wise? We did. So, yeah. Well, so, you know, he's asking me me is there enough to do if we go i say well i've been meaning to do justice league battle for metropolis it's a screenwriter it's got robots all the stuff that they don't really do he's like great let's do it let's go uh and let's figure out

what we can do there what is a day at six flags where you aren't going on a bunch of roller coasters uh now we did uh we did hit up one because i was looking into it and like it's got to be one that's pseudo tame enough to do and i did ninja ninjas like pretty not adventurous i i would say uh anybody done ninja that is uh swinging goes through the trees is that right yes yeah pretty much yeah suspended coaster there's not a lot of them left uh they look like little boats to me like you're kind of kind of in a little plastic boat yeah i always thought of those as very comforting i don't know why i don't know if they're any safer more or less safe i think going through the forest like you know usually

you go through some sort of landscaping in those um and uh that always appealed to me and i think that was a kind that like when i was younger like that was dipping my toes in i would try a suspended coaster yes yeah there's one at um king's island that i think was called top gun when i went and that was like within my comfort zone this one still is got pretty fast um you get splashed by the nearby flume right while you're on it or at least we did which was kind of jarring getting a splash in the face on this coaster uh um but like pretty pleasant experience um one odd thing about it uh my friend lost his hat while we were uh on the ride uh did end up finding it it was

just in the row it like it fell immediately to the row behind us which was empty um but then i was like every little day i was looking up six flags deaths and i found out one of the deaths was somebody going and looking for his hat in the uh in ninja in the grounds of ninja and uh getting uh whacked by the attraction. Yes. Yeah. So if you don't, you don't wear hats that you think you're going to miss. Don't look for them. Okay.

It certainly don't look for them, which it's weird that this even happened because again, magic round is entirely new to me. And so one of the big things that I, I noted and didn't know about before is the constant warning signs on fences. There are so many. It's just extreme caution or explosive. There's a big sign about something being explosive right next to a ride that's like Tweety's Cages. It's like the most four little kids ride. There's scary

warnings like every 10 feet. It's wild. Huh. I, you know, actually that's funny is that, um, if, if you're a listener now and you're maybe this is one of your first episodes, go back and listen to our six flags, fright fest episode. Cause that's my first time going to magic mountain a couple of years ago. And I don't, there's a lot of things I noticed on that episode, but that is actually not one of them. I didn't even notice that there were a lot of like disclaimers basically everywhere in

the park. It is more now than there used to be. I don't know. It was crazy. I was certainly thinking about that Fright Fest episode. And it was, you know, easy to because they're starting to put up Fright Fest stuff. I, for one, felt a little starstruck when I saw one of the fabled fog machines. Oh, yeah. As discussed in the episode,

teens, you saw teenagers run up and, like, take hits of fog straight out of the fog machine. Yeah, they suck the fog out of the fog machine, yes. Sucking fog. Yeah. Blasting a big plume, you know? What

does that do to you, you think? You think there's anything? You think it's, like, is it anything resembling, like, if you, you know what does that do to you you think you think there's anything you think it's you think it's like uh is it anything resembling like if you uh you know uh huffed spray paint or something or is any of it like accidental and pure brain damage or is it or just zero does zero happen to you i think a lot of things have a cumulative effect i think that's even like anything that you see is like poison or you ingest something like i don't know that anything like completely makes you like brain dead immediately but if you're sucking fog out for like a couple months then i think i would be concerned is vape

that much better than a fog machine i mean fog is supposed to be non-toxic because people are breathing it in you're not supposed to have a high concentration of it, but I don't know. I don't know. It's at least like the idea is that you are meant to like have it in your lungs and then not. Yeah. Although it's probably not good for you, I would imagine. But yeah, I, yeah. Also the brain cell count is probably pretty low to begin with if it occurs to you to go suck some fog.

Yeah. So where, so where do you have to go suck some balls yeah uh so where so where do you have to go from there that's a good point um but look maybe look we've all been we've all been on stage we've all been sweating a little bit and we're all trying to impress and make people laugh and that's the same situation maybe with a valencia teen he's got some uh like uh people around him he's trying to impress maybe some girl he's trying to impress and he goes you know what oh man i got nothing these jokes haven't been hitting oh i know what i'll do i'll put my mouth around the fog machine suck it in and blow out a big plume this is gonna bring the night back for me you know i think that might be what it is it's possible that you're

positing this was a goof done once and not a um a habit that formed the guy maybe didn't buy a fog machine he doesn't have one at home he like he's going broke uh buying juice well if they're vaping i mean they could also be at this point because a lot of fog usually there's a slight you know um when we would use it in like high school theater and stuff they had they there was a shared fog machine between the middle school and theater uh middle school and high school theater departments and i think it was piña colada flavor to like cut down on the you know to make it not unpleasant as it like you know they usually use it too much in an auditorium.

Um, so they could just be like used to flavored vapes and stuff. Although those are harder to get ahold of nowadays. Yeah. So it's possible. I mean, anything's possible. I mean,

yeah. Is there going to be a nationwide epidemic of kids hooked on the juice as they call it? Uh, we haven't seen any evidence of it yet, but I'm not ruling it out as far as what could come down the pike next as far as problems for the world to deal with.

I have to think the popularity of vaping is probably a new level of disgusting for college dorm buildings. College dorm buildings famously don't smell good to begin with usually if you're adding like wet candy store smell like oh man that's gonna be that's fucked uh yeah no that's no good yeah um so you saw scott the fog machines were not on yet it was not fright fest not on i just saw one yeah and uh i and it's just like it's just

like loose wire just like plugged into some plug this is another big like i'm sort of looking in the margins uh in my six flags experience especially because i'm not going on roller coasters the main reason that you go so my eye is drifting to a lot of stuff like that like just open outlets uh um just like weird like uh goo and filth kind of overflowing on like uh pipes and uh that's one thing i like there's that steampunk district around there um where there's uh there's a we were going like the theming is a little light for them having announced that this is a steampunk district and then we did see a big golden pipe

situation and then I was like okay there you go there's something wait a minute I think this pipe was probably just there undressed for many decades and then like alright throw some gold on it now it's part of it now it's a now it's steampunk yeah I think that's right when you say goo do you have any photos of sort of like goo that's been surrounding pipes or was it just sort of every pipe had something?

There's one I'll see. I'll pull up something and see if it translates. The one that I was the most aware of was right at the top of the flume ride, which I did go on. I went on the ride Jetstream, which I enjoyed very much. It is a flume ride. It is not a log flume. It's kind of these sporty little, they almost look like little boats. And it almost reminds me of the Autopia a little bit.

It's just those like nice basic colors. It's bright blue, bright red. It's a sporty little ride. We went on it twice in a row had a really fun time it's also kind of like if you took a water slide and just put a ride vehicle in it uh like it doesn't feel married you know it feels like a like a olympic bobsled situation as well and you're just like clanging and clanging down the thing um i and it's like uh fun but you know like unthemed pretty much and the the danger element it feels a little strong because you're up at the top of the drop and there's some

wheel gear kind of mechanism that's making something about the ride happen and there's just like thick black tar smeared onto the thing like absolutely i could touch it and absolutely i could touch it and get my fingers sucked into whatever this gear mechanism is it's right there it's not even like if i reached a bit i don't have to extend my arm out all the way to have my hands caked in tar as if like a brick layer was slathering it down. And my fingers could have been torn off very readily. And the only person who might have said, hey, don't do that, was a really pissed off Valencia teen under an umbrella staring at her phone the entire time. Like did not look up at us for any reason i it was again my first experience with the valencia teens and i'm i'm very charmed it was nice to meet them yeah i'm

glad i'm glad you did yeah uh so i i mean i what's great about six flags is you know we found so many things and and we did not see the tar we didn't actually didn't even go on that ride you're talking about and and i'll have to go on which is i think i might be going back soon um but there's it says it sounds like your discovery with six flags was there's a lot of different substances bubbling and boiling and uh just hanging out i guess all over the place like a witch's brew and you've got a lot of time to observe them because you're walking so much in that park there's a very spread out uh campus extremely i mean anything can be but it reminded us a lot of the la zoo in that you're just you're doing like a big loop up into the hills and like um with not really a good sense of direction and lots of like walking through large areas that are pretty much unthemed.

They're pretty much just trees. Yeah, I understood what you were saying in Fright Fest for like the amount of steps you had by the end. And like the you don't really know, not that you have to learn what Disneyland is and why it's spokes of a wheel and Adventureland's here and Frontierland's here and frontier land's here not that there's gonna be any weight in but like there's nothing really indicating where why ninja would be here and why um uh hot rod customs what is it because also like as we said before like oh we want to go to the anthony geo and i want to go to the justice league and we go oh that must be in the dc area it isn't that's not where it is it's kind of adjacent it's not so far but it's not so far it's not next to all the dc rides like you would assume it was uh yeah so yeah no it's a little bit uh haphazard it's a bit haphazard uh um let me share my my eye photos here and i'll show you i don't know if it reads so much but here's just like a pipe thing with a bunch of like just rusted out black i don't i don't know what just black muck and leaves caked into it and

it's and it's dripping and um i the the video might not read i'll just kind of step you through it instead of playing it but uh here's a video i took that says we're outside a uh this is a that black goo i just showed you was next to a food establishment. First of all. OK. And then when I walked up to the food establishment, it says, try our new maxed out barbecue pulled pork mac and cheese. I might. I don't know how well you could see this.

Does that even read to you as pulled pork mac and cheese? I would not know what that looks like. Two garlic knots next to pico de gallo. It looks completely like a pile of pico de gallo, maybe over some egg whites. Like pico is the overwhelming, the topping, the facet of this dish that you get. I don't see pulled pork.

I don't see mac and cheese. What I do see when I go down below is a bunch of bees surrounding the trash can right under the sign. Then I zoom over to a sign that says, that's just a hand scrawled kind of poorly. And the sign says out of power raid. The official drink of valencia california which i went to my friend to make fun of the sign and i was about to say hey there's this funny sign and then i heard an annoyed girl next to me say damn they're out of powerade legit furious about it yeah um then i walk over here to a barbecue where you can just touch all the knobs and reach your hand into an open shelf and just pull out their dirty brush. Wow!

You could use the barbecue at Six Flags if you wanted. You got to see the dirty brush. I saw the famous Six Flags dirty brush i saw the famous six legs dirty brush and yeah mike i think if you if you brought meats i don't think that they're really screening for like you know if you brought in just like kind of a ziploc holy shit like marinated meats uh i think i think you probably could throw it on again hot enough there that it might just marinate itself you don't even need to turn on the gas but probably you could just turn on the gas and you got a brush right there wow and i don't think anyone would catch you for if you did it all you know in like 20 minutes flat i think you're you're probably oh man jason

we got to do this we got we have we have tickets we have to bring some meat into six flags and cook ourselves meat on their grill. Oh, man. See, that's normally a very appealing spot when they're working it because it's like a good marketing trick. Yeah, of course. It's like the fajita effect, they say, at Chili's. Like, if people smell and see smoked meats cooking, it draws them in.

But there's nothing less appealing than an empty, rusted-out, dirty grill. Oh, man, we need a dusty barbecue. Like, you need that brush. You got a lot of, you got to account, in that 20 minutes I described, like 10 minutes of it is cleaning. If we smuggle a ribeye into Six Flags Magic Mountain and cook the ribeye and then eat it, is a ribeye, how long does a ribeye take?

Does that take too long? I think you're, yeah, I think you're, I think the most efficient would be some skirt steak like uh uh samaria's skirt steak if you cut it real thin it should be real quick anything yeah it's gotta be thin yeah yeah you don't want to cook a filet that's too thick i mean even if you want it rare you still gotta sear it a little right well you know what i think we could probably at least do hot dogs because hot dogs are already cooked but you could grab them kind of whenever you're just you're just trying to get a sear You know what I think we could probably at least Do hot dogs Because hot dogs are already cooked But you could grab them kind of whenever You're just trying to get a sear on it

We're just trying for the bit To be able to say that we cooked Hot dogs in an abandoned Grill in the middle of Six Flags I gotta say I also I don't know this trend Of pulled pork mac and cheese I love both pulled pork and mac also, I don't know this trend of pulled pork, mac and cheese. I love both pulled pork and mac and cheese.

I don't see the appeal of just dumping one on top of the other. I guess easy to make in big quantities and shove in a bowl. Did you have a nots, any of those tasting events? I had two different types of macaroni and cheese. One being, I think, pulled pork or some variety, something like it. And it was at the end of the night when we had already not this very nice and generous with us and gave us each six items to eat to have anything we wanted in the park so i at the end of the night was like oh god

i have two more left uh one bowl of regular mac and cheese and one bowl of mac and cheese with pulled pork please wow and then, like, the sad eating. I mean, it was actually good, but I was, like, just, like, trying to not waste. I really, like, I want to, I agree conceptually with what you're saying, Jason, but oh, my God. It was, like, I was, like, desiring it

the next time I went back. If it's the executions of both are good. I also, Mike, I believe I was next to you eating a plate of funnel cake and a fun bun. You were not next to me. You were within 25 feet of me eating a fun bun and a funnel cake at the same time. Well, they're shutting down the bar. We're closing it out.

We were trying to get... Did you take it home? Was it even possible to take that home? No, I dumped it in the parking lot. I was eating it on the way out. I think at that point it was... I was next to my car, away from everyone. I think outdoor masks were still in effect, but I was in the parking lot, 20 feet away from everyone saying goodnight, eating a congealing funneled cake.

Boy, good times. Race against time. Glory days. So, yeah, that odd restaurant encounter. I also think you wouldn't get caught making food because, like, we, towards the end of it, we went and, like, there was this little theater that's where they do little Bugs Bunny, like, mascot shows that's, um, uh, kind of enveloped in giant carrots. I don't know what it's actually called. We call it the carrot Coliseum. And the only thing stopping you from going in there was a very thin,

low, low chain. And I just said, you want to go sit in the carrot theater for a while? I don't think anyone would stop us. I didn't want to like do anything bad there. I just wanted to see like what would happen. And it was shaded there too. So we just went and talked and had a sit in the carrot theater and we're there for you know

10-15 minutes and then got up and as soon as we got up then we're already like starting to walk away from it and then we hear a tinny distant voice say please you not turn the car there thank you that was the only repercussion for this was it a loud speaker um a quiet speaker okay I would say it was I had a test of our hearing that we even

heard it I don't even know I don't know what the move was here was it like was somebody operating a nearby teacup ride like Like, all right, you have the nearest, can I just like jump on this thing for a sec? Maybe these, maybe these assholes will hear it. Um, and we barely did. I only like, if, if I hadn't heard the word carrot, I don't think it would have registered as being directed at us. Um,

so anyways, uh, uh, yeah, look, we're having a good time enjoyed jet stream and uh roaring rapids we went on we did a rapid ride which is have you guys done the rapid ride there no i have yeah jason's done it uh um i my feeling was again it's pretty unthemed but you know like grizzly river rapids so this is part of the course um and it's you know how most rapid rides you kind of hit a point where like all right now we're cruising oh here we go and we've been rolling for a while this ride just felt to me like there all right one rapid then you kind of like bump into something hard get your bearings all right number two and three is a very like stop and start kind of like there was never just like all right here's the run

now it's now we're like now we're really cruising down this river yeah now we're feeling free yeah um so uh also i got like dren like only me like some you feel like with disney there's like controls kind of like there's all right we can design this to where kind of everybody gets it equally uh this was like entirely me um which i was a little a little bitter about um but anyways it's like it's a pretty it's a pretty fun day even though we're noticing the the stuff in the in the margins uh um yes yes if we can overlook the goos we're having a pretty good time uh then we're like all right well i think now it's me now it's time to make it to justice league you know what if this thing is a little hokey i think a beer would be great and maybe a beer will give me the bravery ultimately to do batman the ride which is the one i was i was kind of hoping to to conquer

uh we get in a beer line um just like the longest and not moving remotely. We can tell that's going to be 45 minutes. There's one bartender. He is moving as slow as I've ever seen a human being move. It's like each step takes a full 40 seconds. And so we're like, well, screw this. Let's see if we can find somewhere else. We keep looking at it, but we can find somewhere else we keep looking at

but we cannot find anywhere else to get an alcoholic beverage anywhere else we're just now we're just wandering trying to figure it out with that full throttle bar mike that you referenced i think we were over there uh that's closed though so much of the park is closed it's very like a lot of it's closed desolation is what the phrase that kept occurring to us in various points of the journey. So like, all right, you know,

let's hear this, uh, screw the beer thing. Let's, uh, let's, let's go find all justice and just do the ride. Uh,

normally that'll be, that'll be fine. Uh, so we walk up to the hall of justice. And the first thing that we notice is the sign that says closed. The ride says closed. The ride was closed. Oh, yeah.

The reason for both of us going on a non coaster visit. And by then I'd announced, let's do we're going to do a podcast about it to close. Not happening. Close the refurbishment. So I'm like, huh? Shit. We go into the nearby Justice League store, which is not closed. And we wonder if those teams, uh, can fill us in on anything that's going on. Maybe it's just for the day.

I'm not sure. Uh, we go ask them what's going on with the justice league ride and their responses. I don't know. I, um, it's been closed for like three days. Um, yeah, I don't know i um it's been closed for like three days um yeah i don't know what's wrong with it okay bye then later in the day we make our way over to the guest services which is at the front and apparently this is the only way you could have known that the ride was closed is a very little sign inside this guest services building it was there that's closed tatsu is closed those are two pretty big heavy hitters to lose for no apparent

reason but i looked online and when i looked online i learned that magic mountain does not have a part of the site that tells you yeah if things are closed this does not exist for them yeah i i was up there once a couple years ago um early in the day and it was like 11 a.m and i'm like oh man a lot of stuff is um closed like i saw more people with hoses just hosing sidewalks down that i saw like big rides operating and i'm like it's almost noon like what is going on and eventually like i was walking later on when i was walking to my car i saw stuff more stuff running well it's like it's just a bunch you know what it was one of those days where like half the ride operators were late to work you know yeah and when i was there everyone was wearing helpful honda days like a

marketing promotion in southern california Everyone was wearing polos that said helpful Honda days. And I was like, I don't, I don't know how helpful this is. well, granted there had just been an earthquake a few days prior. And I did read that they had to check some of the structural integrity for a day or two,

but it still seemed like a lot. And yet no signage about what was going on sure i yeah well i yeah i mean maybe it was something maybe there was something at that earthquake level that caused justice league to be closed or it was that uh jessica didn't come in that day she's got the keys to the ride she has the key lex luthor's secret weapon, Jessica. The Justice League is foiled. I don't care for your approach to a maniacal crime, Joker and Harley Quinn, nor your tardiness, Jessica,

but you'll help distract the Justice League. In this case, your lack of attention to your work proved a boon for my deeds. This is going to reflect poorly on our corporate sponsors at Honda. Southern California Honda dealers. Now, Honda is very helpful because they, you know, we said there's a lot of walking around Six Flags flags but they do provide the helpful honda tram uh which is a an angel's flight type vehicle that takes you up you know one of the steeper uh next to the woods to walk it so that's great also closed closed not even

didn't even register on the closed sign that is how much nobody cares if the helpful honda thing is is open sure closed there is also when we went on Ninja, Ninja's weird. There's like a lift hill at the beginning to get you going on it. And then a lift hill at the end to get you back to the station. Not a lift hill to take you to more ride or more fun. It is a, we are done lift hill. And when you're on that, you go past like what looks completely like an empty uh tram station like was this a train or was there even like a carousel in here i'm not sure and then you're

down on the ground and it's completely visible you can walk right up to the fence of it you just can't go in it so like this like uh you know what used to be a train station or something i looked it up um what is now the Ninja Loading Station was once the top station for a similar thing, an Angel's Flight type. I forget the term. A funicular, that's right. Yeah.

Cool word. But a similar thing. Like, so the Ninja Station became, that was a train station, it became the Ninja Station. The bottom one has been closed since 1981 just in the park unlabeled you could see it on a ride you could see it if you walk up to it 40 years of closure and the the park has only been open since 1971 so for 80 percent of the existence of magic mount which way it's changed

ownerships but the one thing that has never changed is this one train station that they've never they would even like turn it into a picnic area just nothing how about the observation tower uh sort of thing were you able to get in that didn't try that that doesn't sound great in in times in terms of like people so i'm not sure and i don't i don't know if it was if it was running um detail i forgot earlier so we go up to the guest service counter and just with no particular plan we're just like well if we kind of like let's just see if they can tell us what's going on with justice league and will it be open anytime soon or would they even give us something a little nice to make it up to us the reason for our visit

and we go in there and it is two girls on their phones who do not look up at us we say out loud oh so what's going on with Justice League Justice League's closed and they just go like yeah and glare until we leave which we do

Jessica's most devious henchwomen. They must be in cahoots. The ultimate scheme. They have that secret power is not giving a shit at all. This fog is powerful, but weed smoke makes you impenetrable to caring about anything. Yes. So, yeah, just it was a mean guest service and an inexplicably closed ride.

And with that, I kick it to you guys because I haven't been on this ride. Oh, man. All right. And it occurred to me like, well, there's a part of me that's, you know, like, well, this this ruins the episode. Now we cannot possibly do that. Just as we're going to have to reschedule, I'm going to have to come back. And then I think two things. One, no, that's pretty far for the Six Flags course. Probably I think we leave it in. I think that's my report is that it was closed. The other thing that occurs to me is I don't want to come back to Magic Mountain ever again. We both drove out of here just like just drained.

It really like and again again i'll we'll move it over to the ride but just the other thing because this is where it really hit us is that like okay well that's closed we can't find a beer that isn't a hassle so now we're just walking around we're walking around this store that's called like the looney tunes uh super store I don't know. It is so sun faded and the paint is cracking off of the thing. There's a sign that is so sun bleached that Bugs Bunny is

only eyes and a mouth. He was gray. He was too close to tipping. Like the billboard of Dr. T.J. Ecclesburg from The Great Gatsby. That's God. That's an allegory for God. He's watching the sins of man occur in Valencia. Oh, man.

The watchful eyes of bugs. Did you see Mrs. Taz anywhere, Scott? Oh, yeah. Wait, I got a big... Yeah, because Mrs. Taz is right at the entrance. I got a lovely picture of Mrs. Taz through some glass oh yeah there she is oh man

she's great I love her little cross eyed the mouth kind of lean in one way big bright lipstick loved that but just this store like you know we looked up on the there's big like pillars or something that are supposed to look like palm trees

and there's just like white tape all over them and then there's a a weird statue of the looney tunes and it looks like uh two things here it looks to me like foghorn leghorn is trying to strangle you he's like walking up like he's part zombified like a must grab neck also looks like uh uh elmer fudd is about to shoot that like execute tweety bird in the back of the head it's like grab tweety by the scruff yeah yeah that's right you'll forget it it won't be painful this way that's right lenny that's right the rabbits you know about the rabbits. The rabbits. You know, pet the rabbits. And then there's a Daffy Duck with just like a big, like iron. What do you even call it? It's just like a big iron chain around his scratched up foot.

It's not an ankle bracelet. It's not an ankle bracelet, but it's like a foot bracelet. Not a sobriety ankle bracelet, no. But he's just like tethered to the ground with metal. Daffy Duck has been entrapped by one of the mischievous, devious traps of Jigsaw, the famous killer. If they tighten it, half of his foot would just come clean off. Around this time, we were saying how this store and a lot of parts of the park it's like a any uh any target any target that you can go to is nicer cleaner i trust the food more uh

the better themed i would say we like we carpool we parked close to there in a little boring strip mall with a marshalls and a ross and a five below and we were like that strip mall was like a better themed experience than six foot like almost any low any your mall you the listener your mall i think is is nicer and cleaner than it's like somehow this thing that people travel to and through daily by the thousands is worse than any Marshalls. I truly do believe this.

Well, Anthony Geo coined a phrase that I think a lot of the listeners know, and I think Scott might have to amend his version of the phrase. Of course, Anthony's phrase was, six flags sucks and I love it's Scott might have to amend his version of the phrase. Uh, he, cause of course, Anthony's phrase was six flags sucks and I love it. And I have to agree, uh, because it does seem what you're saying. Like there was just like loose tape on, on the, what was that?

Even I was looking at like a piece of green, like scenery, like an indoor palm tree, very like eerie fluorescent room that had signs that say tasmanian devil above nothing but dc capes yeah and i don't think and i was trying to analyze this too i'm like are we being elitist by this and it's like six flags is like the third major i mean what is cedar fair bigger than six flags like this isn't like a local park we're clowning on because we think the like the budget for the ride is bad it's like yeah yeah we're not going like kenobi lake you're in our crosshairs yeah yeah yeah she shouldn't have even tried yeah yeah we're charmed by places we're charmed i think by lower budgets uh often but what

is really the excuse is it a lower budget or you have to look into this. We have to look into this and really figure out if they're truly hurting for money or just management for so long. It's just been so badly managed. Are you saying that the Time Warner company might not be good at attention to detail? The people who launched HBO Max, it took six extra months to get it onto Roku, the most popular streaming Service device in the country Isn't it not Time Warner anymore? Well, the Discovery merger still has to

Get approved, I think Time Warner doesn't own Six Flags anymore Right? Didn't it change hands? It's changed hands so many times I think it has changed hands somewhat Or I may just be very confused because it changes hands every few

months, I feel like. I was looking this up, and Six Flags is not owned by Time Warner. Time Warner sold it in 1998. They've changed the name. It was bought... The company was later rebranded Premier. It was Premier Parks.

Premier Parks bought it, but then they've changed their name to Six Flags, and then they filed for bankruptcy in 2010, it looks like. That's the Snyder era. Yeah, we know where they were having trouble then. So yeah, if you want to listen back, we did a Patreon-exclusive episode about the time when Six Flags decided

to start their own business where they cut kids' hair in the mall. And that's not a joke. That's real. And go to our Patreon to listen to that. You just said how you were just reading in a very dry manner how and then there was kind of disagreements

about the direction of the company, which now, that looks very boring on paper, but the disagreement was some people think they should focus on roller coasters. Others thought they should focus on giving children haircuts while they watch videos of roller coasters. That's right.

Uh, flags is what's. So you think it's premier parks? I, nobody wants to admit they own it. It's premier parks. And there was almost a merger with Cedar point. There was that Cedar fair excuse me

yeah yeah and and so they've yeah they've repremier is rebranded to call themselves like six flags inc or something or six whatever we'll do we should do a real deep dive on this because i bet there's a lot of fascinating stuff here but by and large my point was just like they have the money to take the tape off of things like i'm just saying like we're not being like snooty like oh we wouldn't like we don't like a ride unless it has a budget of over 50 million like we're not like that a charming like here's a

here's a funny janky ride with like a you know like a dog little skeleton puppet or whatever we're probably gonna like that we're probably gonna be charmed by the you know as evidenced by knots like knots is you know it certainly has a lot of money but there's like it's just the spirit there um here you just have like uh you know like you if you want to be an ultimate like spend all the most money you can within the six flags organization you can be a

diamond elite member there's nothing to me like seeing the word diamond in pixelated like it's in low res this was printed out huge like it looks a whole like this is what i don't understand like uh with charmingly cheap uh attractions or this has been here since the 40s and it's never changed that's one thing a sign that they printed a year ago that with where they just didn't like do it right at kinko's that i that i don't get i don't know there's no charm to it i'm confused i don't know why it has to be that way and also the pizza in this photo looks horrible uh yeah it's uh this is a whole first of all when you showed us that first picture it looked like like uh that like when you get handed like cards for escorts

On the sunset or on the Las Vegas strip Whacking those cards Around in your face Please no But yeah I don't There's Sleep with Diamond Elite tonight You could be a Diamond Elite member

You could be a Diamond Elite Hey you guys want to be a diamond elite you guys want to be a diamond elite i have a limo waiting for you over here if you want to be a diamond elite uh this diamond elite by the way is this where you get to you get like a free uh three course meal every day if you get it i'm reading it now well no you gotta add on member dining. Sorry, and I was confused. You still have to. Oh, my God. But you can get 50% off if you are Diamond Elite. I think it's like 80 bucks. I think one year we should do it or at least Jason should do it and see like Jason just drives up to Valencia to get all of his meals for a year.

To just eat like, yeah, eat a list of Syria burger. That's your kitchen now. It's 50% savings on too many spaces, almost everything in the park. And in the middle of the word, everything is just like a screw right in the word. I like that. This is what I don't,

this is what I don't get. And it makes me all just a segue to the ride. It makes me, I was, I having done half of my day. And by that, I mean an hour and a half of my three hour day. I was wondering, like, OK, so how did they how would be this level of detail? How does this place pull off a dark? How do they pull off their attempt at a Buzz Lightyear disaster blasters or a Spider-Man? Honestly, like that's kind of what they're

trying to do. How does this organization that has screws in the middle of pixelated words and black tar overflowing from everything, how is this ride? And I have to leave it to you guys to tell me. Well, of course, my experience with the ride is that the Valencia teen who was working there didn't give me the 3D glasses. So I rode the ride not getting to experience the 3D, which I thought was good for this. Jason is the only one who's actually ridden the ride in the correct manner, in the correct way.

Yeah, I think I've ridden it twice and didn't really have any trouble. It went as it was supposed to you know you are mr lucky guy i'm my mr lucky guy yeah i got to see um uh all my favorite characters rendered in cg animation um yeah uh i did get to hear i and so one thing i'll say about this ride I think it's elevated Over Some of the Batman Attractions we did By the sheer presence of

The voice of Kevin Conroy The voice of Batman In the Batman animated series And a number of video games And other attractions He's on some of those rides we were we were watching i think yeah he is but then some of them are a little more generic the joker

is not mark hamill i looked that up right right it sounds like mark hamill but it's a guy style it's that style it's a guy named i think it's troy baker I have it here in my note somewhere. Yeah, Troy Baker. And he's done the Joker's voice on some direct-to-video, direct-to-streaming movies. And I think he does a pretty good job. Yes, I agree. That's a pretty good Joker.

The actual execution of this ride, there's little things I can tease them about here and there. But i think overall i i do like it overall i think it's and it's probably because the contract like the companies that they hired to do this sally corporation and oceaneering entertainment systems like have done a lot of theme park work like these are not like new companies uh oceeering entertainment systems are the ones who saved uh the jaws ride they were the second group to work on the jaws ride in orlando like after all the troubles they had an opening right because they dealt with underwater mechanics right not theme park rides initially and now they've then they made the shift into having a theme park division yeah yeah well

also let me say just uh to praise it the just the mere fact that it is the hall of justice the famous super friends base for the justice league which now that i'm saying this jason help me out here is the super is the hall of justice is its first appearance in super friends the like kind of cheesy cartoon from the 70s oh that's a good question i actually guess i said the justice league they've had a number of different headquarters they had a satellite based one they had a mountain in the 90s you know i love the grant morrison watchtower justice league base that was on the moon yeah there yeah there's one on the moon um they were international in the early 90s so they

had like embassies so they were all over the place i'll look that up first appearance of hall of justice so so just the mere fact that they have recreated something that's pretty iconic if you if you know about this stuff uh is awesome because that's like again next level for six flags it's not like there's any like kind of Looney Tunes-style building. As I say that, maybe I'm wrong in any of the parks. The Carrot Coliseum, which they do have. I guess the Carrot Coliseum. Queenie's Rusty Cages. They do have that.

I guess there's not a famous cliff they could show you from Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner. Here's different cliffs, yeah. But yeah, so just getting to be by the Hall of Justice is pretty awesome because again as much as we as there was more marvel representation in the parks and different parks around the world we're still lacking in as we've said before the x-men's mansion we're still

lacking in the fantastic four building it's not like there's just so much marvel like famous iconography that we get to see in parks there's not so we have the avengers la live is what we have we have we have the avengers la live yes they they decided like you know what we won't take from the comics uh we won't take the thing where the avengers live in a giant weird mansion in central park uh although i guess in the comics eventually they are like living in stark tower anyway So they just they did pull that. But it's like, yeah, location sense of place is so much fun. And it's the kind of building where like maybe the third floor will be apartment.

Second floor is Avengers headquarter. But maybe the bottom they lease out to like Wolfgang Puck or, you know, maybe if Scottie Pippen's doing a restaurant you know he could go down there and for the mtv video music awards future i'll do his performance on the roof and there'll be helicopters videotaping him it'll be cool it'll be cool yeah look it's glowy it's cool yeah i mean look it's it's the cameras are so good now you'll be able to see all the bandages he's playing around with you know yeah uh uh i have an answer the hall of justice first appeared in super friends um so that is correct that is first appearance so that's a that's uh scott have you ever watched you've seen super friends i assume yeah i mean generally yeah yeah i'm not i'm not saying oh you gotta watch super friends it is what it is if you saw one you know what it is um but yeah

that's very but it's like the sillier and yes uh yeah kind of thing and that's the building they recreated right neat yes very fun that they went with that that like i guess the oh i would the only thing i would prefer is like seeing like the i guess the 66 wayne manor that batman 60 adam west wayne manor or like bat cave rec recreated in like a fun because it's a fun choice they used they use different versions of the Hall of Justice later and like more serious stories and stuff but yeah that Batcave is kind of

just you know that cave Bronson it's kind of just when the Bat when the Batmobile drives it's just sort of like goes through like two big leaves basically yeah basically there kind of is no... They went a little lo-fi

with the Batcave. The Batcave exterior, that is. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, if you're... If you don't know what we're talking about, if you're in Los Angeles, there's a neighborhood

in Hollywood where you keep just driving up the hill and eventually you can get to the Batcave. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, which is very fun,

and if you like that, do it. So that immediately gets you, puts you in the mood. It's not fully themed around. There's still, like, stuff, and I think we talked about in the episode, there's, like, Tweety Bird

on the loudspeaker outside of the Hall of Justice, so it's not perfectly themed. There's sound bleed from other things, but, again, Six Flags, you're like, themed. There's sound bleed from other things. But again, Six Flags, you're like, whoa, that's cool. This is great. This is going to be cool because this feels

different than most of the other experiences. Well, I did like the outside. I did. I did like that. And the store is great. I love that they're selling capes. They're trying to make capes happen in this theme park. or the rides you don't want to flip a thing that's flying behind you while there's you know mechanics and gears and you could get you could eat goo on the cape is what i'm saying you get

goo on it incredible rules it's like the incredibles you know edna mode like no capes no capes you know yes yes i thought of that completely yes this is a decapitation recipe waiting to happen yes but i do like the capes in general i I will say, Sky, no, Scott, did you see all the Batman Forever? Like the fonts and stuff on the games and then on the Riddler's Revenge, did you pay attention to any of that? Well, I didn't go too close to the Riddler's

Revenge. Again, I didn't, you know. Were you worried that you would get on it by getting too close to it? I would just end up, I mean, that's what I thought when I was a kid, because when the People Mo go into space mountain yeah you're like we're just gonna the track will just switch and now we're on space mountain right um so yeah there's some of that some of that's lingering i am by the way i'm disappointed i didn't i i think a beer would have gotten me on batman right i need that i need it to fly i think honestly i need to fly like

batman yeah riddler's revenge i, I think you could have done fine. I really don't think it's that big of a deal. Really? It's an odd way to stand on her. It's a standing coaster. And again, as we demonstrated on the other episode, when I sadly used E.T. to be the seat of the coaster, it is a little odd getting into it. But once it's there, you've got your mommy harness.

You feel very locked into it. And it's not.'re it's you've got your mommy harness you feel very like locked into it and it's it's not grip mommy yeah you can grip mommy and it's not much more intense than the thing we went on at not sir yeah i think i think that i think next time soon next time when you go i think we will you'll do rootler's revenge and well some of those words don't resonate with me. Like soon. What if I added the modifier? Very too soon. It's probably less appealing. I would say I got an email the next day saying,

Hey, you can still, if you pay us 20 more dollars, you can get an annual pass. And I was like, no delete. You should need those $20 for anything else. When you went, go ahead. Did you, I was going to go ahead did you oh i was gonna say did

you go before labor day or after before okay so still kind of the summer season kind of odd to have your big only dark ride close yes if you're one of your only air-conditioned experiences well again they look they told me they didn't know what was wrong with it. Can you, as if it was like a horse that had diarrhea or something. Yeah. I know what's wrong with us today. I know what's wrong.

The horse can't get any. I vermectin. I'll tell you what's wrong with that. Goddamn horse. Nobody's thinking about these horses eating all the horse paste. Horses need that paste. That's true. Also, my under the table ivermectin sales, like I was already bootlegging it.

You know, like I can't get it to resell. It's tough times for everyone right now. Yeah. Your online horse paste business. Yeah. Jason's good old fashioned artisanal I almost had them sponsoring the podcast And they were just like oh podcast Podcasting interesting like oh we should

Look into that Jason just sells a variety of pastes In general all types of Yeah Jason sells Uh uh I was gonna say Scott moose moose paste, sparrow paste, all the paste.

Scott, could you try negotiating with the email address, the Six Flags email address, where they say $20 for an annual pass and you go, well, throw in dining and it's a deal. Do you think you could go back and forth with a high-level negotiation

to see what perks you could get? Well, you want me to send that and see if anything happens? Yeah, right now. Yeah, please. All right. Well, then go ahead and you can describe more ride details and I'll begin this correspondence. Yeah, you could draft up a legal counter-offer.

I might keep it real brief. How about 10? How about 10 is funny too. So yeah. So a thing we should say about Just League is everyone appears to be a little bit different. Not appears to be, is. Everything's like a little bit laid out differently. The one at Magic Mountain, you go into a big, and again, listen to the podcast the right episode About Fright Fest

You go into like kind of a big empty-ish feeling room And then you go into another room that also feels empty But the cyborg animatronic is in there And he then explains to you Sort of what the narrative of the ride is And like I saw the Six Flags Great America one The animatronic Is more by the loading area for the cars

It's in the same room as that one So they're all different they're all little different they all got different quirks and personality yeah the um uh the magic mountain one is notable the most recent one the magic mountain one uh notable for having a slightly different ending than a lot of the others and it adds in harley quinn right which might have been a thing uh you know an agreement with the municipalities of valencia and santa clarita because harley quinn is in the official city stamp so uh you know that might have been 60 percent of our residents this is an area where harley is too popular, very popular.

The other thing I don't think we've said about the ride, this is an award-winning. This is a 2018 Thea Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Attraction category. That is the Themed Entertainment Awards, which are put on by the TEA, the Themed Entertainment Association. I officially can say now

for a fact, Thea is said, IAPA, the International Association of Amusement Parks, is said, TEA is spelled out. And so I've gotten roasted for that before. I think I've got it figured out now. What a roast. What a roast.

Yeah, someone made fun of you for saying TEA. Regular Rickles. So I think someone made fun of me out now What a roast What a roast Regular Rickles I think someone made fun of me for saying I-A-A-P-A And I was like Oh I didn't immediately jump to I-A-P-A But I have now watched videos Where people say I-A-P-A What a fool Jason was For saying each letter of the acronym

A fool To the roast with him to the roast for me so uh yeah and as i was saying this ride made by the sally corporation and you got to give it up for sally dark rides just for the sheer weirdness of the

variety of rides they have made uh they're good i have a i have a proposition i've been wanting to bring this up i because i when they came up with maybe one of those new hampshire ones we talked about with mookie i just like i never heard of this i never heard of that i think that we should do a maybe a second gate that is some kind of like sally dark ride potluck kind of situation oh yeah that's good we all pick one and teach the others about it because there's such odd, idiosyncratic, weird, charming janky that involve IPs where you're like that as a ride.

I think just to plant a flag in that here, I think something with Sally would be fun. I think that's right. Yeah, because in New Hampshire at Kenobi Lake Park, they did the mine of lost souls. They, I thinked did it actually um but don't quote me on that but like yeah they've done a scooby-doo kind of haunted ride then they did the copyright free boo blasters on boo hill when they had to yank all the scooby-doo stuff out of the paramount parks they did knights in white satin the trip maybe the strangest dark ride ever made based on the moody blues song that lasted less than a year and it and then it was gutted and turned into the monsters of rock which uh i forgot there was a second version weird that's right yeah

the um i uh one of the one of the uh theme park YouTube channels was just Exploring the Hard Rock Park The abandoned Hard Rock Park campus And the stuff they came across Was bizarre Architectural drawings Piles and piles of merchandise Two of the Moody Blues are here

Two of the Moody Subsession guys We're not done with Hard Rock Park we'll get there too put a pin back in that too because we sure yeah been too long I miss it yeah

so yeah Sally for sure like they've made such a variety of things and the ride is I mean I forget what even came out in 2018 but the ride I will say as much as we're

goofing around like the ride is cool if I had my 3d glasses on I think I would have thought oh that's a cool solid Justice League ride where you get to, this is what, this is what, if it fulfills all the things I say. And sometimes I, if I were griping about, um, um, Rise of the Resistance, it's like, Rise of the Resistance is awesome. But like for that budget, like, why don't we have every Star Wars character in it? Why don't I get an interaction with like every character from every all nine movies or whatever in there and this one is like yeah you get the whole the justice league's there joker's there harley's there lex luther like you get better than rise of the resistance i didn't say i like it better no no just like if you're judging it on that no i'm just saying it's like a stacked lineup you got Superman, Supergirl Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern Cyborg, Batman

I'm saying it's see my friends you're right it doesn't show you flash cards of characters you recognize you should have you gotta go down to what my son did the chain in SeaWorld with

Cookie Monster and Elmo and big bird. You point at them and then you leave. Right. Yeah. That's what arises. Rise of the resistance. They spent all that money. It should have been a chain with flashcards on it.

Pictures of the characters. I like, it should be Jar Jar. It should be Babu Frick. It should be, uh, I don't know. Lando,

all of them. Yeah. This lineup almost too powerful to be in this predicament. Yes, yes, you're right, yes. It seems like you should have, like, a crazy mega threat if you're stacking this Justice League lineup. That's what you're saying, right, Jason? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, because you have this version, the ones in America have Lex Luthor and the Joker. The original, like, impetus for this ride was they made a... Sally made a ride called Justice League Alien Invasion 3D for Warner Brothers Movie World in Australia. And that one, you fight Starro the Conqueror. Right. Recently featured in Suicide Squad.

Yeah. Suicide Squad. Although they make him look a little more like a guy in the ride in Australia. He should just be a giant starfish with hundreds of little starfish. Right, which is great. I'm a big Starro fan.

Anyway, go ahead. Yeah. On the Suicide Squad note, that weird store with all the tape everywhere and Daffy in the chain, that is where you can go if you want to buy a big stand a life-size standee of adam beach in suicide squad oh okay they have a standee all right that's what do you know offhand the character now i can't think

of it uh i have not seen this film i didn't't recognize this person. Is he in both of them? I have a problem remembering. Slipknot. Okay. Yeah. So if you want to buy a... They don't have like Cena, Peacemaker, Standee or anything? Only Slipknot.

I think Slipknot's mostly cut out of the movie, I believe. I believe the first one to eat it, Slipknot, if I'm correct. Huh. That's odd odd Why would yeah only That that's the only one okay But no Not Idris Elba is there any other Piece of merch with an actor who played A character no otherwise it's just a drawing

Of Harley Quinn drawing of Batman But you can't buy Adam Beach specifically What Idris Elba, no Margot Robbie? That's very odd. No, no, no. No way. No way, yeah. You should have asked somebody,

like, oh, can I get an Idris Elba standee? And I assume they would have said, like... I think the answer would have been no. If the phone was looked up from. Yeah, that's fair. Then it would have been no. Sorry, Jessica has doused her minions in a very

dank strain of indica and they're going right into da couch and they are not helping your ass. Oh man, these henchmen. I think she could have changed the tide in this, right? If she's helping out Lex and...

If she was a tiny character, yeah. Justice League, even the all-star lineup, doesn't stand a chance. I'll say about Lex, this is a pretty clear motive. This is, you know, kind of an evergreen DC comic story of Lex Luthor thinks the real menace is the Justice League and he can keep order if he's in charge like that is the starting point for the storyline of the ride yeah and that's a classic yeah lex

it's just jealousy generally is what fuels lex uh most of the incarnations of lex luther and yeah this seems to be a similar one where he says he's gonna do it it, but look, he's bad. You can't trust him. He's a bad guy. You can't trust him, no. And then... Just his association with the Joker alone, you know he's not all the way there. Of course. Why would you ever, ever, even being a bad guy, team up with the Joker? Doesn't make any sense.

He's chaotic. He's unpredictable. Any version of the Joker, too. Joaquin Joker. Yeah. Cesar Romero Joker. All unpredictable. Any version of the Joker too. Joaquin Joker, Cesar Romero Joker, all unpredictable. Not a good person to have on the team, in my opinion. No. Doesn't belong in a team really at all. Yes, that's true.

Not really. I mean, he's often in the Legion of Doom, but he's not a team player. The Injustice Gang, they call them sometimes. Yes. The Legion of Doom is like the collection of bad guys and then justice gang is also a collection of bad guys it's the same similar you can use them fairly interchangeably and as i say that some comic book guy is going to be very upset with

me because i'm just going to be once like black manta was never on the like injustice gang or something they're going to be very upset black Manta being the Aquaman villain So yeah I to recap So you get like this video here And you get to see Lex you get to see Superman the CGI is Pretty good but as I said in the other episode Like it seems like nobody knows what to do

With their hands they seem a little bit nervous On camera Lex Luthor And Superman both seem like maybe this is their first Time on camera they should take an acting class Maybe an on camera class Lex Luthor and Superman both seem like maybe this is their first time on camera. They should take an acting class maybe. An on-camera class just to see sort of the quirks that human beings have when they get in front of a camera. Can we just frame me here up?

Is that what you say? Frame? Is that right? It's the Ricky Bobby where his hands keep coming into frame when he's doing the interview to try to grab the microphone It's basically the same thing The little piece of tape

That's my spot I should be on my spot Is it called a spot? Is it stage right and left in movies? Okay I know you pan left and right And you tilt up and down I do know that Does that help?

A real quick side note is when i took a commercial class uh i got on camera and the first thing is i i said my name and then i yawned uh and that was a bad thing to do when you're taking a class to be an actor um so i i sympathize with what i'm saying with the first time performers it's great about podcasts and we've all yawned we can yawn over and over yeah no it'll stare at our phones like valencia teens uh so yeah you get that gist of what jason was saying with lex's plan and then you go and then if it's magic mountain you go into the next room and that is where you see cyborg which is a cool animatronic yeah um and is like um i guess what i like about this and i like about cyborg is that they're kind of doing cartoon like it's it's cartoonish it's closer to like comic or like even like it's not fully like the bruce tim animated style but it is closer to the stuff

that i have more affection for and as much as i like any of the tv shows or movies i do like the comic look a lot other than if they were just fully going to make a batman 66 ride or a batman forever ride god bless let's do it but if it's between this or more a way like a way realistic human depiction of all these characters i go for more comic or cartoon like like is spider-man in orlando yeah yeah it's this isn't the uh uh recent dc movies where like superman is like it's the end of a two-hour movie and he's like snapping a dude's neck and it's like oh okay this is what we're doing all right yeah i mean i'm i'm again i've talked about this before with the

snyder movies i was very much like cranky about those snyder movies because i was like oh that's gonna be so bleak i have come fully around to snyder verse and i like uh the snyder justice league a lot and cyborg specifically he got done so dirty in that uh whedon version he has such a much better great story in the justice uh snyder verse but they're not doing that they're not doing and i will say this just sleek is not as bleak and dark as those other movies the batman superman man of steel that's true i think the longer batman superman is is less bleak i just remember watching man of steel going like oh what is this um there's a cup of piss in the batman versus superman movie that's really there is a mischievous cup of piss uh it's a press someone drink it scott let me tell you it's a

prank on a senator uh and that should answer all of your questions um yep yeah covered covered covered uh yeah i mean i think the last few years have taught us that the um 2010s odd morality play of like good people like marvel and bad people like dc um maybe there's bigger things to worry about in the world once in a lifetime pandemic uh kind of taught us that like oh yeah some of this doesn't really mean anything well sure yeah i mean if it's like oh these the man of steel doesn't have as many quips or something i was like okay maybe maybe i shouldn't be so like upset that i don't get like the exact version of superman i want um but i do like justice lee i think just looks good i know you guys have not sat through the four hour saga but

i do recommend it even i'll do it. You're surprised that I haven't done it since we talked about this before. I can provide that update. That's okay. You'll get to it. You'll get back to Six Flags. It'll all happen. Yeah.

What a review. Less bleak. Less bleak, you know. Less bleak than other Supermans. You know, once you restart HBO Max max a couple times and you'll be able to navigate to it when it stops freezing on you um but uh yeah but yeah no i like the cartoony arc like i think that's a good way to do an evergreen kind of version of yes for sure because yeah there are people who grew up with like the bruce tim kind of batman superman justice

league and the um and then there's the kids who grew up with Teen Titans and Teen Titans Go I mean those were huge so like yeah and I think it's it's a good lineup of characters you see a lot of the big characters some of the you know secondary characters

and yeah yeah and it feels like Spider it feels like the orlando spider-man where it's like there's so many characters you like and you're put into like the the comic book uh like animated universe which is still like spider-man's the gold standard for this type of thing yeah there's some like little nods to like more very niche stuff in the con like they mentioned argus and star labs like these like go to uh sort of dc universe references are kind of scattered throughout but you don't really need to know them right yes yes so there's yeah there's stuff for like hardcore people there's enough for like mom and dad who just like superman or batman or whatever you know the characters that are like mass like

you know superman batman betty boop the three characters that like everybody sort of knows everyone knows yeah if you can buy it on a tin lunchbox in a store that just says it sells quote-unquote gifts and you're not quite sure how they stay in business everyone knows those characters yes exactly yeah um yeah go ahead another thing about this ride i think that's unique to this specific dark ride is that it is scattered basically all over the country it's in texas and um texas outside of chic, outside of New York City. It's in Southern California. There's one in Mexico.

This is the rare dark ride where you can pretty much hit it in almost, besides, I guess, the Pacific Northwest, you can hit it in a lot of places. Oh, yeah. Is it the most reproduced? It has to be, right? Dark ride? I mean, as far as I guess... there just aren't that many Disney's. Right.

Exactly. So it feels like maybe that is, maybe there's the most versions of this specific ride. Um, yeah, especially if you count that alien invasion 3d. Um, huh.

Yeah. That's interesting. Um, so you can get, you can get like a, like a local, the local version of it, I guess.

It's like a chain. Exactly, that's exactly where I was going. Like McDonald's is one kind of close to you. Right, and sometimes McDonald's will have a different menu item regionally. They're trying something different out. Obviously, it's a different building. It's a non-standard McDonald's or something.

And as with this recent investigation that's going on, sometimes the McFlurry machine that's going on sometimes the mcflurry machine is broken and sometimes the justice league ride is closed yeah let's get the ftc on this let's get the ftc are the other ones closed are the other justice leagues closed oh that's a good question there should be a website like there is um to see if the ice cream machine is broken at a mcdonald's There should be a website that just says, is the Justice League ride broken at this six flags? And you can put in the zip code and it'll tell you if it's

working or not. But it doesn't say why. That website for the McDonald's doesn't say why the ice cream machine's not working for a location. Something's wrong. That's as close as wrong you're gonna get um now i'm in watching just videos of this what does strike me about the ride is um it's clearly going for spider-man the islands of adventure ride and it's a but like a little too closely it's like so many of the beats of it feel very similar and and we end with a big chase where you're going through the city streets

and you're getting yanked but you know you're grabbing onto this vehicle or like Transformers you go through the floor of a building or there's a truck gag there's kind of like a jump scare there's a truck there I guess you would call it a trope at this point

for like modern 3D rides. Cause even, and we haven't talked about it too much, but the Knott's, uh, the Knott's, um, Berry Tales ride similarly has like a very fast moving finale like that, where you're kind of going through things and you're falling. And it's like that it feels like now because of maybe because of Spider-Man, like that is, has to be the end for a ride like this yeah yeah you're dropped there are some that are so close like there's a garbage truck gag as scott was saying and then you're dropped from a big height and in in this case like green lantern makes like a track like a little race car stock car track for you to slow down like come to a stop

instead of like spider-man webbing um yeah you there's some turns i watched them making a video that sally put out and they're like yeah we try to add like some corkscrew or almost like upside down effects which is like the six flags brand because it's so roller coaster heavy sure um so uh yeah i think i think there's a good amount of variety it's yeah the movement the range of movement in the car certainly evokes the spider-man ride but then there's like men in black buzz lightyear kind of shooting elements to it as well. Is it chaos that it's 3D and there's Spider-Man kind of stuff? Because Spider-Man and Transformers

are not shooting rides. So does having the shooting component make it all kind of too much, too confusing? Yes, I think it's... I am... I'm not always anti-interactivity because Toy Story Midway Mini I think is great. I think that's perfect.

Even Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters I think is really good. But I do, and I've said this before, and maybe I said it in a black, sometimes, especially in a thing like Justice League, in the same way with the Knots, with Fairy Tales, it's like, it would just be maybe better if we didn't have to do

two things at once. You have to aim and shoot, but like like you have to like aim and shoot but then also just take in an insane amount of information that's being thrown at you with 3d because like a superhero battle there's a lot of stuff going on so it's like what would be better you having to make sure to like shoot at little like drone bad guys or pies on the knots thing or just having like again intimate interactions like on spider-man with the villains the villains pop onto the car you get right in their face and then the people leave the ride and they go oh i was like nose to nose with doc ock like that's sort of more of what

i as a as a rider of these rides want i I want to get close enough to like, you know, I could have kissed him, but the mood wasn't right. Yeah. I would like to have kissed, I would like to kiss every one of the Sinister Six.

And that's what that ride gives me. I can taste the kiss with all of the villains on that ride. You want Doc Ock to say like, hello,

like the whole car, like E.T. Hello, Peter. Hello,T. Hello, Peter. Hello, Michael. Hello, Scott. Well, you know what, Jason? Let me amend that. I would like him just to say hello to me.

I would like him to just, if there's a technology that can make it so you just heard your name, maybe this is the next leap forward in technology. If you could make it so the character only says your name and that's how you hear it and we all hear our own names then we feel like we're being singled out like uh bruce springsteen dancing in the dark where we're getting like pulled out of the audience and singled out by a famous person and now we know we are special dr octopus thinks i'm special and he would only if he's gonna kiss somebody in In the ride vehicle he's going to kiss me That's what's going to happen Yeah you're getting singled out

To get fucked up by Alfred Molina Well if it's Molina Now that's a different thing than just General.com but if we Yeah if it's Molina put Molina in Marvel In the new MCU Disneyfied Marvel land And also have him say my name

And have us share a moment. Sure. Do you ever just mutter to yourself on these rides, say my name, say my name? Mutter or enthusiastically yell. Either way.

You pick the volume. It depends what's appropriate for which ride. If it's Justice League, I can yell it. If it's a smaller ride, maybe I just kind of whisper it. And like, maybe I kind of blow it away in like a kiss to the air to like send a wish. Send a wish

into the universe. The teen next to you is just like, hey, can I go on again? This old guy kept mumbling and crying like when characters would show up with blowing kisses and he said he said they're not close enough to him he wants to be nose to nose with them it's what he keeps saying why am i turning to me and saying i need intimacy you know who do you who do you want intimacy with on justice who do you want a moment with the most

with for the with the most oh that's a good very good question um as far as favorite characters um i guess it's so cliche but i think it has to it has to be i was going unfortunately it has to probably be batman just because there's so many versions of Batman that I'm a big fan of. You could say, like, I love you, but just thank the other ones for me, too. Just thank every Batman if you see him. How about I, yeah, Batman 4, I lean forward, I give him a little kiss on the cheek,

and I go, that's for all of you guys. And then I like to share. Send that to all of them. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry about your parents. I hope you've had to see less versions than I have. Maybe I say, maybe if the ride

were to break down during the point where the character was on the hood of the vehicle, I could go like, one for Adam, one for Val, one for Michael, and then we could just keep going along even for robert even yes i haven't seen him yet but i love him already exactly uh so if the ride breaks down that'll be a good that'll be a fun a fun little treat It's safe to say that was the creepiest moment of all the episodes of this podcast. Oh man, where I'm kissing a

3D Batman and thanking the different actors. You're holding your parents' house. My parents' house. Their next day. I like to think your mom has laundry passing by right now. No, they've got the glasses on the wall up to their ear. I do think so.

There's also a Lou Malnati's pizza order in as well that I'm like hungering for at this point. We keep for Lou. He keeps saying he can't wait to be acquainted with the Robbie Pattinson Batman. Honey, do you know what that means?

If I were to open the door, they're probably right behind. They're probably just holding the glass. Well, that was your that was your whole childhood though well it's a very good point uh it's a very good point uh the bug no there was a full bug i was like bugs it was like the fbi like i people everyone all my friends wore wires they were all yeah they were all They were all nerks paid by your mom. My mom was paying him each a couple hundred bucks a

week. Your mom should talk to the Justice League because she was the only one able to outsmart the schemes of Jessica to make sure you did not get hit of dirt weed of any shitty shitty little chicago

joint uh yes a very good point um it's just i don't know look if you're if you're going out with michael tonight it's just uh here's the thing 11 years ago he made little uh sheets out of tissues for the ghostbusters and i'm just worried he's gonna do it again he might do it in your car he might light your car on fire And I don't want that for you So please stare mic up Here's a hundred dollars And I want you to take care of this

Yeah no I think all of that stuff Is that all happened It's all real all of it Was that what the line is? It is It's true all of it It's true. It's true. All of it. It's true. All of it. Until we were home.

To be honest, I have another question, but that's right. There's a bunch of... Lex Luthor has a bunch of little bots. Lex bots? I called him drunk earlier. Isn't this like... Maybe this is a case of Disney getting there

after. What with the Spidey bots. Right. Exactly. Yes. I called them isn't this like Maybe this is a case of Disney Getting there after What would the Spidey thoughts right Exactly yes that is the thought I Had as well that's very similar like kind of Like faceless drones and It's the same and I tend to Dragon on knots too I guess but like it's like There's endless I mean I guess we're shooting

Pies in that version but It is like with these things I think they feel like they need to make it so exciting and so fast that they just want to like throw so many drones at you to the point where it's like overwhelming yeah i you know i think that is one of the things i like about the australian the original iteration of a justice league ride is that uh you know a part of star of the conqueror as a character is that there's a million weird little starfish aliens everywhere yes and that is an ideal target to shoot at and it's so much more interesting than generic robots so i think

they should have i think they got more of a budget in america to make this ride and clone it so many times and i can see why that you would want to put lex luther and the joker in there because they're such recognizable characters i think they should have gotten starro in there too and just gone like all out with the bad guys you know what i think that that's a that's a good plus up i also think that for any of these rides i think it would be better like you know how in i guess zelda has this where like link is fighting a big boss and there's like elements of now you first have to shoot the bosses like kneecaps out then you have to shoot you know something gets like weak like okay that knocks off the armor then now you have like a weakness in the shoulder like one villain or one

boss or one task that everyone's trying to complete together i feel like is better more memorable than just everybody getting like 200 lex bots thrown at their head does that make sense yeah yeah yeah yeah one more in line with like when there is a big bowser and you are exactly stop bowser and like let's yeah let's take out the floor under him or these little things he's throwing out we get rid of those and then we get rid of it yeah i don't know i'm not sure why the trend seems to be like little faceless things versus just like one character is on the screen for a minute and then in the same way that toy story midway mania is just like a flat kind of

playing surface and stuff is fun and happens around that like if you you know throw the rings around the rocket all the thing shoots up and there's different things that are like surprises that can happen but it feels like that's more satisfying than just a pummel just being pummeled yeah i mean i guess by making it robots you kind of depersonalize it it's like it's it's just a machine it's not a thing that's alive you know um the but the thing is though you know i like about this you can see your like beams you can see what you're shooting but then i don't think they really thought it through when the justice league characters show up everyone immediately just starts shooting batman in the face like you just see all the

beams immediately go To other characters Yeah i mean that's like a that's Like a professional wrestling show in The late 90s with laser pointers too though Oh yeah everyone's Instinct is just i did not have a Laser pointer as a youth i that was Against the rules and i did not have

One no i was afraid of being Blinded i was terrified of being blinded I also was terrified of being Blinded i was terrified of being blinded i also was terrified of being blinded by laser pointers scott were you terrified of this um was this phenomenon something you didn't experience uh i i feel like i had one and i hate to burst through your bubble and then the mythologizing of the laser pointer but i feel like maybe I had one on a pen and used it twice and then never again. I think it did not maintain as a...

So, yeah, I'm saying you weren't missing much. I see. So you weren't acting like the clown prince of crime with that laser pointer around town. I did not go out on a freeway overpass and try to start nailing individual cars. You didn't go to a local municipal airport

and just try to fuck around and find out. Try flying to Detroit now. Yeah. Well, that's good. Because I did have an incredibly powerful laser pointer.

Of course. Extremely accurate. I had the luxor light top of the line didn't uh yeah i knew when not to use it uh so i was gonna say too with that with uh i mean i get it the concern is like you're shooting lasers like not bullets which is of course good but like you could shoot batarangs you could shoot there's different things like with spider-man you're shooting webs and stuff um yeah you're like web pellets you i mentioned this on a on another episode but you you point out yeah you're not shooting bullets but there is a sequence like in and it's different in other versions like the great american version uh the version of great america uh there's a thing where a shelf of

barrels falls down on you a theme park standby prop barrels of course um but it is kind of a cool effect and it's just some robots in that room like some industrial looking robots but at magic mountain it's some of the joker's goons and they just have automatic weapons and they're just firing them right at you like there's no ray gun there's no gas like fog guns it's just like oh i don't know if these guys in like purge masks and orange jumpsuits firing ak's at me like i don't know you might have maybe could uh cartoon that up a little bit yeah i'm worried about this happening to me any day for any reason so yeah i'm concerned about this at the mall the post office a gas station you know anywhere how about a boxing

glove gun you know oh yeah boxing glove shooting out of a gun that's yeah that's yeah we can all enjoy that i'll say this on the complimentary side the joker on the crazy joker dune buggy is awesome like that is oh 100 they're the the animatronic joker the crazy joker dune buggy is awesome like that is oh 100 percent they're the animatronic joker is on like a dune buggy with it's got a big like gas gun in the front of it and it's a cooled vehicle he looks good it's uh yeah i don't know that's obviously that's what i would want more of too obviously if I was plussing up as well. Robots of everybody. But, you know, look, that's more than we get on the Spider-Man ride in Orlando. I mean, we have Cyborg, we have him, and then Harley Quinn sometimes.

In Magic Mountain, there's a simpler Harley Quinn animatronic at the end who blasts you with gas. At the end of all versions, you get blasted with gas. Right. But maybe Harley's only Magic Mountain you get Plasty with gas. Right. But maybe Harley's only Magic Mountain because it was the last one open. So there's more scenes. There's scenes that are only there. Yeah, yeah.

I think she was the addition for Magic Mountain. And she looks pretty good. I mean, yeah, simpler than the Joker. But one last Harley Quinn, you know, for the locals, local hero, Harley Quinzel. I'll see you on the bumper of the car I'm driving behind soon. See you at the mayor's office, Harley Quinn, Harleen.

So, I mean, it seems like the feedback is more positive than not. And it seems like maybe higher quality than you might expect from Six Flags. Yeah, I also have to from Six Flags. Yeah. I also have to get Six Flags credit in their front of the line offering is called Flash Pass. And, you know, I like the use of the Flash. He does run very fast. But also, I just appreciate the like skirting the legalities because flash pass just sounds like you mush mouthed fast pass a little. And it's like, you know what?

And that's, you know, he was the original lightning lane. Let's be honest, because the flash is surrounded by lightning from the speed force. Of course. You know, there's give and take in the theme park world. You know, everyone steals. Fast pass. Snooze, you lose. Yeah.

It is up in the air now it is fair game that's how copyright works correct yeah if you stop using it actively it can be used by anyone we should use it we should use it for something for our our purposes see when disney gets at us well yeah, what can we offer that's FastPass? Is there a way to, if we created a way to only hear pertinent info about the ride that is our topic that day and to skip tangents, which would thus reduce the episodes

to about 23 minutes per, if that was something the audience designed now i don't know how to program it we're gonna need some computer whiz but maybe that is our fast pass okay skip past the tangents yeah anytime past the childhood stories i decided to check our reviews yesterday actually it's funny enough which i don't do that often oh great idea well honestly the reviews on apple podcasts are really good it's real positive except somebody was like four stars out of not four out of five not five out of five and they're like these tangents go on too long and i'm like look we've done it this long welcome to

your first comedy podcast it ain't getting any easier we're not getting we're not gonna change now maybe if maybe if we saw this within the first six weeks, maybe we would have overhauled the whole thing. But at this point, sorry. But thanks for listening. Thanks for the four stars. Four stars is not one star. No way.

Fuck this guy. All right, fine. Stop listening right now. You're right. You're right. Scott's right. You don't get us anymore. I was trying to be magnanimous.

I'll edit out the part where I said it's okay That's right You won't hear that praise I'll edit out no tangents That much I know The ride, I'll say you have to free The Justice League Yeah

Also I go back, I made a mistake earlier I said there was an empty room There is a room with statues of the Holy Trinity, which is Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman, which I like the statues. I think that is a cool employees in the first two rooms to direct you where to go it feels very lawless uh so in my memory i forgot that those statues are in there which i really uh i like um and then at the end of the ride you get to free the justice league and they help you basically and before you go on that uh like very spider-man style you know behind the thing um which i like i like that you're helping i like that that's. So that's really all I had to say about the rest of the ride. Yeah, you get to see everyone use their powers a little.

At the end, they all do a hero pose, and they thank you and say you're honorary members now. Right, which is good. It's not quite the Transformers experience, but it is pretty close. The flesh thanked me. They said I could join me Intimacy

You could say me yes Does it give you that tingle Does it give you that intimacy Tingle that you want Well I haven't done as I said The time I went on the ride the glasses Were not given to us By the employee

So when I watch the video I do feel it i can feel it but when i go which again soon is looking like it'll happen uh i will report back if if it feels as good as i hope it does as it seems yeah well just like i don't know if your like hairs stand up on the back of your head or on your i don't know what, how to measure your excitement about intimacy. I don't know how you measure your tingle, but send us a photo. If something physically happens to your body.

How do you, that sounds like some sort of market. How do you measure your tingle? One way could be flags. And the more flags there are. More are flags more tingle yeah is really how yeah scott unfortunately had the three to four flag experience that's about correct yes but at least i mean the very first time i went to magic mountain

oh god probably like 15 14 15 years ago uh i got oh i was it was so hot and i was like i never complain about like oh god it's so hot and i got home and the news was like it's the hottest day of 2008 uh and it was like oh my like sandals are flip-flop like whatever shoes i had with me had melted like the glue was separating and i was like that might be is that the goo people's sandals have melted and there's just like melted sandal goo everywhere in the six flags oh my god is the goo just like you know remainder old navy like four dollar flip-flops that have just been kicked off yeah like torched yeah heel rubber is just stuck on the pavement and no one's cleaned it like who cares who could be be you have to run a test on the goo uh get the goo to a lab well we'll test um uh well i didn't you know what i'm like

uh you know having having said some uh some not great things a less than four star rating for my day at the park i i mean i think i was impacted by not getting this uh this is what i wanted to see uh uh probably would have bumped up my rating uh it sounds like this is sounds like this ain't bad yeah it's especially like again this is the only game in town at a six flags like you're gonna go yeah this is like a dark ride like and this is it's not a shabby one it's like it's got high pretty high production value. It's not as good as Orlando Spider-Man, but nothing almost

is still at this point. Let me read this statement. This is by somebody I believe from Sally Dark Rides. And just to react to this. Spider-Man was really our bar. That was where we always strived to be. If that was the best dark ride in the industry,

we needed to reach that bar. And Justice League has exceeded it. Well. Thoughts? I don't know if I would agree, because it doesn't, you know, there's a great simplicity to the Spider-Man ride.

And yeah, there's a, there's maybe an overreach on Justice League where it's very busy. And it's like, there's, it's maybe weighed down a on Justice League where it's very busy and it's like there's maybe weighed down a little by the interactivity you know yeah that's what I think yes I agree too busy the experience is a little

more complicated the ride vehicle is not as good as the Spider-Man it's just not quite as good yeah that thing has got a lot of tricks up its sleeve yeah and that thing I've said this before like i went i went on transformers not even that long ago i was like it really feels like like a 300 pound robot has slammed its fist on the vehicle and i don't know how it does that like i feel such a strong impact but if it truly was like the force

that i think it is it would rip the like the car in half it's just so everything about it just like makes you like your body feel the actual weight of the Optimus Prime or whoever Megatron or whoever's attacking you Optimus Prime he's our friend he doesn't attack but yeah those

vehicles are awesome and these vehicles are good they're fine but it's not as good as the Spider-Man vehicle yeah yeah those are amazing yeah because they can make you feel like yeah you're getting punched by a robot or you know if if they wanted to include a scene where optimus prime lifts you up to where his heart should be and holds you close to his chest and says it were i to have a heart it would be beating harder than ever for you michael my son i consider you my son after what you've after your bravery this day and he's he's removed me from the car somehow that's if they could do that technology too you all go home the rest of

you riffraff i need some time with mich. You know, like in the Cars Land ride where you can go, one is the spray down and one is the wheels or the, excuse me, spray paint. If there were two paths at the end of Transformers, one where the car breaks off and it's just me in a little car and then the other

what, seven people or what is it? How many people in there? Twelve? Eleven? Whatever it is. They go in the other way and I get to have that and I get to feel his beating robot heart. That's like being asked to the after party. Like, you want to hang a little? You hang back. He slips me a note during the middle of the ride, too.

He's like, here's where the real party is. Anyway, I'll spark this, I'll spark that how are you look i'm not looking okay with your mom i'm not looking for a romantic relation with optimus prime i'm just looking for acknowledgement just like a mentor uncle like some sort of like cool uncle relationship uncle relationship is what i'm looking for. I'm not looking to be his lover. Michael, don't tell your mother, but here is a Bud Light. A single Bud Light can. It comes out of his dispenser from his chest.

Yeah. It's icy cold. My chest is a cooler. You're very mature and 37. I believe you can have this now. Now he seems like he's bad. Now you're making it seem like he's bad. No, he's saying, like, I maybe waited too long.

I probably could have, you know, you were always a good kid. We wanted to make sure you didn't go down the wrong path like that, Heather. Fire a shotgun with me. I'm like, I don't think we should be doing this optimist i don't think no come on it's cool everything's fine i thought you were cool i guess you not want intimacy with me i guess i should have picked the guy next to you in the right vehicle no no no no i was the right one i was the right one to pick okay well shoot the gun then right answer now next step let's go rob a bank whoa hey optimus and you're gonna be the one whose face is on the camera wait a minute um so look this this could very well be the ending,

but I want to, we've been going a little long, but I want to throw one more thing in here. Yeah, go ahead. And that is that, Jason, you mentioned it earlier, that this ride won a Thea Award as presented by the Thea. No, the T-E-A. The T-E-A presents the T-H-E-A Awards.

It's very tidy. No problems there. So we haven't brought up these awards in a long time. I feel like they used to come up here and there. Specifically, the desire among some of the hosts to get involved in this host reward show plural yeah yeah yes um we want to be able to be a part of the show to maybe host the show you guys went to you tried to go to it speaking of after parties you like hung around these anonymous theme park industry employees who design rides and stuff.

We were notably the ones not in tuxedos at the Tagaroa Terrace. But, you know, Friar Tuck's local LA establishment has my measurements on file. So if the call comes. If they go in person again, you'll be there. And here's what I have to say about this i got curious and i was like so they won an award huh i wonder if that uh was interesting or if that's uh you know

if that aired anywhere um and now i have seen basically i looked up the 2019 uh the awards where justice league won an award and i was expecting know, I got a lot of what I was expecting. A lot of like kind of dry discussion from people I've never seen before. Just, you know, people thanking their team. And it is what it is. It's a nice little internal thing. But it maybe wasn't as fun as I thought it would be. Until, and I'm going to show you this.

And this has changed my feelings about the Thea Awards. Now I'm all, now I want as much interaction with them as possible, because here's what happened when the Justice League ride was honored. And I'll narrate anything that's not clear to you, the audience. We are humbled to know that our industry peers think us worthy of this great acknowledgement. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, they're here. of this great acknowledgement. Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, they're here. Give it up for the Justice League.

Oh, hell yes. The two tux guys on stage now are kind of standing around on a pretty modest stage at the Disneyland Hotel, but then Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, pretty theme park of life. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. They're here to help you with your selfies as we now will take a 20-minute intermission. And watch your wristbands because when they flash red, it's time for Act Two. Thank you.

So now the three characters, kind of all the trinity here they kind of like mill about aren't sure what to do well should we go in the audience okay and they slowly walk down some precarious steps to take selfies with these park industry veterans that is actually that's great operational uh uh that's a great operational move because 20 minutes everyone's going to make a b line for the bar but if you can distract some of the people who would be going to the bar that'll cut down on the line and that's why these you know that's why these people are the best but they're that's what they do is like organized crowds some go here some go here yeah yeah yeah it's really on display they can't even

put it to rest when it's their time to party now the real nerds among us would know i think it is a very uh funny choice because wonder woman of those three was the only original justice league member batman superman not originally in the very first iteration of justice league and in the 90s it was a lot of bnc list characters, too. And then Grant Morrison, of course. And then Grant Morrison. Yeah, he put Catwoman on the team. He put Huntress on the team. Yeah, you got to have the pantheon.

You got to have the big name. You got to have the stars. Aztec, the ultimate man who became. Yeah. Well, one thing fighting all that is that they had the budget for three Anaheim actors to show up. They looked pretty good for like an award show selfie yeah so the whole so like a lot of the theas are pretty dry but i flipped through because some of them are in full on youtube there's nonsense yeah a little bit yeah there is a thing where in the in the guardians

mission breakout year there's a thing where the guardians of the galaxy land on stage and uh and kind of like roast the the you know the people who the people in the room know uh um there's yeah there's some like billy crystal type award showy stuff um and there's and there's one more clip this is how that year opened the 2019 and uh i going to watch the volume on this, but audience, just prepare your ears. Anyway, so what happened at the beginning of this award show is that a bunch

of teens and muted greys, nicely dressed, all come out and this is the sound they collectively make. nicely dressed all come out and this is the this is the sound they collectively make as a screen with the word innovation plays and then at some point they turn to the screen and then turn back from the screen um see now that's a perfect theme park accompaniment because it's

like got some gravitas it's got some gravitas. It's got some air to it, but it is very copyright free. So no one's getting sued on this one. Not a word. Not one word. Oh, yes. A bunch of teens sing a wordless song at you. Well, we will.

I want to redeclare right now that we want to host the Theo Awards. Yeah. If I was on the fence before, I want all in. We want to redeclare right now that we want to host the theo awards yeah if i was on the fence before i want to i want all in we want to bring the teams back we want to bring the holy trinity back batman superman wonder woman it doesn't matter what ride wins we're ready to do it uh and i want the teens to beat up the justice league yes while singing uh yeah i mean the comics industry learned this years ago with the like big comic book awards the eisen awards they give out a comic-con every year uh we're always a very long boring affair so in recent years like you've gotten there's been like a tom lennon uh yeah and other comics have like presented awards and like kind of livened it up a little because as you can imagine a room full of people who spend

most of their time like typing at a computer or drawing at a drafting board isn't necessarily the most lively you know well they're gonna be lively when Scott starts it's so wonderful night for Thea Thea Thea who will win

you know that's gonna ride tonight are Or Thea, Thea, Thea, who will win? You know, that's going to lighten them up. Tonight at Rides, tonight at R. Or we do a video where we're in all the rides. It's us in the rides with other famous podcasters. Oh, yes, yes. That's good, too. John Gabrus. Yeah.

We take a head off one of the stormtroopers in that room and raise the resistance. There you go. John Gabrus, how did you get here? Hondo and Akka replaced with Mitch. Okay, alright. You guys gotta go get the coaxium. Gotta get that fucking coaxium.

Oh, this is dumb. I hate this land. Paying off one of the valet Guys at the Disneyland hotel Okay Jason said too mean of a joke about Bob JPEG get him pull a sedan around Get him the fuck out of here Yeah look

So many opportunities For like Iconic amazing Long lasting comedy at these theaters So hire us We're ready yeah I'll start working on some kind of Poe Dameron related

song parody or what's new I guess I gotta do a song about like about web slingers and if I'm going by Billy Crystal rules it has to be like a song from the 1940s so yes right right must have been a beautiful slinger cause baby to be like a song from the 1940s. You're right. Yes, right, right.

Must have been a beautiful slinger because baby, that's a beautiful web. Ratatouille, sing this song, doodah, doodah. Oh, man. Well, yeah. All right. We're in. We're doing it. We are in as thea hosts uh in 2022 we just need to run it by uh this organization that seems like a rather stuffy organization but i

think they'll probably be yep who denied us who denied us free tickets once well i think the tickets are like they said i know that but they said they said our outlet was not a good fit, is what I believe the email said, that we were not a good fit. Not wrong. But we are the right fit to host. We are the right fit to host. We are the right fit to host. We've got credits. I get it. Yeah, okay.

We've got, what is it called? Polls? We've got clippings. Clippings. Oh yeah, we have clippings. And now from some web series that appeared on platforms that have since been canceled entirely. Please welcome

Scott Gardner. All right. That's a used to revive podcast ride. Boy, what a wild ride.'ll see at the theaters at 2022, or maybe at this rate, 2024. I don't know when they're coming back. Uh, we'll, we'll figure it out. We'll be there. Um,

you can find us on all the socials at podcast, the ride merch is available in our T public store. And for three bonus episodes every month, check out podcast the ride the second gate at patrion.com slash podcast, the ride, uh uh as always your whiskey choice is digits uh it's a championship uh level it's the only uh whiskey it's worthy of six rings and for the best organic popcorn it's got to be husk it feels like by the way it feels like that's a different episode at this point that was was the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's worth a four star review is they call back things that were two and a half hours ago. I was begging them not to, and they didn't anyway. Four stars. But that's the amount of time we're going to have to sustain at the theater awards. So callbacks, that is what you want. You got to track everything that happened in the night and we're going to do it. Every single thing. Well, we'll have our joke writers waiting, as they always say, you know, like along on the

waiting in the wings to give us those jokes. And then we'll have to, of course, get Valanche. Oh, yeah. Oh, man, we got to get Valanche. Valanche will have some great lines about like thank you all for being here tonight and uh for those of you who aren't here tonight should have woken up early to get in the virtual queue sooner asshole classic it's great gonna work great perfect be

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