Podcast: The Ride - King Kong (The Robot That Burnt Up) with David Love

Episode Date: September 12, 2025

Go ape with this ape-sized episode that discusses the backlot tour's greatest ape attraction, The King Kong Encounter. (it had a big robot ape)Former tram guide David Love checks in with PTR to reminisce about ape antics and his tram glory days with his old coworker Scott.Tickets for Scott Performs The 2006 Universal Tour at Dynasty Typewriter available here:https://www.squadup.com/hosts/7408591/eventsFOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride⁠See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Forever. Dog. The following Universal Tram-based episode may contain the following. False banana smell, sense memories, ape mechs, soulful ape eyeballs, and just a general ape-based gush fest. Scott's former Tram Tour coworker, David Love, joined Sub Tramber to talk about the King Kong Encounter on today's podcast, The Ride. Welcome aboard, podcast The Ride, Sip Tramber, a month-long tribute to the world-famous Universal Studios tour.

I'm your guide, Scott Gardner, joined today by helicopter reporter Mike Carlson. I was going to make a helicopter noise, but I don't know how to do that. Wait, well, now you're, there you go, yeah, yeah, okay. Sounds so, like, limp, though. But then the tough thing is you can't do that and then talk at the same time, unless your police academy's Michael Winslow. Yeah. The man of two voices at once.

And, hey, over here is a guy who never gets banana breath because they upset his tummy too much. It's Jason Sheridan. Yeah. I mean, that's only a morning thing. Maybe afternoon bananas are fine. I had a smoothie this morning, and there might have been banana in that. Wow. You didn't, you don't know?

Well, Jane made it. Usually just dump a bunch of greens and peanut butter and water or almond milk and then frozen fruit. What's going on? What's going on in the house? Yeah, could be. Could it be arsenic. Laffy taffy in there? That's not going to grind up too well.

That might damage the blender. No, I think. Okay. What have you heated? Heated it up really good, and then you used it. I think it would be fine. It's just adding process. So in this smoothie recipe, you're heating up Laffy Taffy.

Yeah, you put Laffy Taffy in a pan on the stove, and you heat it up. Not even a mic right now. We've got to get the stove involved. I mean, I guess you don't have to, but, you know, stove, I feel like it'll be better. Well, it will be better. That feels like, you know what, actually I wasn't with you until you said that, which is sort of like how like a chopped contestant might prepare. And then it's sort of like emulsifies it. Or so, you know, suddenly, yeah, you're breaking it down to its elements.

Breaking it down to the raw plastic and asbestos of Laffy Taffey. And then right into that smoothie. Or, I mean, you're describing your own ideal alcoholic beverage, I think. Oh, liquid Laffy Taffy? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. With a hint of alcohol? Tinyest. Like a thimble full, and then mostly it's mostly Lafey Taffy.

Just dip a Q-tip and then put the Q-Tip into a vodka bottle, then dip that in for an even faster amount of time. to the beverage. Mike's very excited for horror night season, because all the specialty cocktails look like the same color as windshield wipe or fluid. That is nothing

new as far as a horror night season is concerned. No, I didn't mean it was new. I meant like, ah, this time of you are trying to drink anti-freeze. I'm worried, yeah, don't let this guy go into jiffy loob he ends up to... My mouth water is at a jiffy loo.

I get, I salivate like Pavlov's dog when I go into a jiffy wood Curacao after Curacao. Yeah. Yum. Well, you know, to get on track here,

this is the tram tour month and it's been a fun month so far, nostalgic month so far as I flashed back to my time as a universal tour guide. And the nostalgia will continue big time here today

because I'm so excited to be joined by one of my favorite people. I met doing that gig, somebody who is in the trenches with me, slinging the safety clips and breathing that banana breath. He knows what it was. He knows what 2006 was all about. A proud graduate of the Tour Guide class of 2006. David Love is with us. Thank you. I am so honored and excited to be here. Thank you for me. Thank you. Part of my ambition,

part of my motivation to make it in Hollywood has been to get to a point in my career where you guys would have to invite me on. And I didn't have to do that. I just had to be a friend of Scott. from the tour and you know what I'm good work you want you wanted it to be run through a publicist yes you wanted to have like a difficult drawn-out five-year ordeal I wanted your people to call my people but uh for it to for it to never happen this is what we've learned about the publicist system yeah that email browser view just a million emails in the chain of like just dates and times going back and forth there you go and like oh no it's sorry that's that's a different we're in a different time zone. No, that's my time. Not, oh, God, this started in Trump 1 and now we're

doing it in Trump 2. Uh, uh, portray, yeah, long timelines. No, I, I, I, well, look, it has been on my to-do list for a long time to have you on. I'm so glad that we're, we're doing it at last, besides the, even the universal stuff, because, like, it's, it's, it's made sense to have you, because your theme park fan credentials are very high as far as, as people I know, which is saying a lot. among the things that come to mind, I'm just going to put you on the spot with a few things. Would you like to tell the audience where you got married? I got married at the Disneyland Hotel.

Yeah. In the Sleeping Beauty Ballroom. Wow. While my wife was preparing while they were getting dressed, I was on the single rider line at Splash Mountain. Wow. Yes. I didn't know that.

Yeah, I took a picture of the picture on Splash Mountain and posted to Instagram, taking the plunge today. Yeah, it was amazing. So, yeah, you were there. Yeah, yeah. And I believe, were you part of the crew that got kicked out of Trader Sam's? No, I was oddly exhausted. You know what?

I was thinking, in recalling your wedding, I was thinking how cool was to like, oh, God, the wedding's over, kind of tired. I'd get to just go upstairs to the Disneyland Hotel. That's great. And I was like, oh, yeah. And then like the after part, like the drinks are at Trader Sam's. What better a place? but then I remember I didn't do it for whatever reason.

What was wrong with me that I do not do a wedding after party? Yeah, this is ideal. I would beg for this scenario today. A group got kicked out, really? Yeah, yeah. I don't know what happened. I was up in the hotel, but yeah, apparently people got pretty rowdy at the Trader Sam's. Your group, you had to take responsibility for.

I pretended like I did not know them, and I have never seen most of them since. Wow, wow. Yeah, no, yeah, no, go cross them off the list. Not worth the, not worth dealing with. Cheney volcano eruptions. Would you be willing to name any of them? Is there anyone I know? Uh, I think Perry was there.

Perry, really? I don't know if he was an instigator. I don't think he was an instigator. Okay, okay. But he might have been a follower. Okay, okay, sure. Punch some shrunken heads. That's weak, you know, because you know you can take them.

That's not, yeah. You're going to punch a head your own size. You're like, I can make this thing. explode. It's made of pinata material. It's made of like paper machet. But no laughy taffy inside.

No laughing tap, no. I don't believe. All theme. I remember your wedding cake though. That was one of the cool things just to get to see because I have not attended a Disney wedding besides that and like getting to see some of how they do it because you are you offered like this has got to be

because with Disney fans they have to like cater to a number of Disney like sub-interest but like is that our word to was it like here are the cakes you can do but you went with a very specific theme i don't remember like getting a book and saying like here are some examples but i believe sue was the the name of the woman who kind of ran everything and um you know she asked what our favorite ride was and i said haunted mansion and she's like we could do that I'm like, you could do what? We can make a haunted mansion cake.

Oh. Like, okay. Wow. So, yeah, it was like a full scale, not full scale, but, you know, slim down for a cake size, haunted mansion. And it was incredible. Oh, that wasn't even, that was offered up casually, flippantly. That's kind of wild.

One of my biggest regrets in life was we were offered cake toppers. And I said, no. I was thinking like the cheesy, you know, the tuxedo, the man and the woman on top the cake. This is a 1950s idea. Yeah, I don't want that on the Honda Manchin cake. But then I saw some pictures of other

Honda Mansion cakes they've done after our wedding. And it's like the hatbox ghost and it's like little miniature figurines that they could have put on. Right. And I'm like, oh man, I really blew it.

Which also would go for auction for $1,000 each too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, just spin that around. Yeah. They could sit on a shelf and you can admire them or you can make some dough. Yeah.

Oh, there's already, they opened the beacon barrel, the Pirates of the Caribbean bar in Magic Kingdom. And I saw some video walk through and someone got the drink that comes in a souvenir skull mug. And they're like, oh, for the drink and the souvenir mug, it was like 30, 40 bucks or whatever. The mugs are already going for over $100 on eBay. Jeez, wow.

That's really what this entire mug operation is, is it is like Disney like funneling. You know, it's like, you know, like, Reagan, like, running like an arms trade, like pretending. No, it's an Iran contract situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't speak of a specific SOA,

but it almost is them like creating a little like weird industry. Yeah, yeah. And then disavowing it. There's a, oh, the Club 33 mug, they have the bird that's on top of the, whatever, the clock in the lobby area. but they're only selling that in Club 33. You can't get that, but that makes me furious

because that's a separate, like, little Club 33 merch economy separate from the Trader Sam's one. Right. Now, you can get that on eBay, but that's going to be even crazier high price to get stuff like that. What makes that so expensive is the member exclusive stuff, you are not allowed to sell on eBay.

And they have people watching to make sure. Because you could get kicked out if they, yeah. Oh, wait, yeah, that's easy. easily traceable. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Oh,

geez, right. They take that very seriously. Okay. They don't like that. Yeah. Because you can make your money back off of them. They don't like that. Yeah.

You can recoup the membership. Right, right. No, no, no, no. No, thank you. We make the money here, not you. But yes. Well, maybe, I don't know.

If you're, if maybe just somebody out there might be down in their luck enough to start. Yeah, well, I'll pay for it off. I'll burn my membership down. Whatever. You can, I'll meet you in a parking lot with cash. You can't trace that. I mean, you can trace your phones, I suppose, like in the dark night or something, but like, or in just regular phones.

They don't already do that. Which they may, I don't know what you, when you sign up, I don't know what you're, I don't know what the fine print is. And then the people we know have Club 33 memberships in Florida and the merch sucks there. There's no, no merch, there's no mug, there's no fun. Maybe it's a T-shirt, but it's garbage in Florida. So then I can't get anything cool there because they don't even make it. It's going on with this Weeksauce Club 33 down at.

Florida. I don't know. No pictures. It's a different. Well, there's no pictures either place, either cause. Yes. Oops. Oh, oh, broke a rule. How many pictures did you take when we went to 3rd3? Well, we did take some pictures, didn't we? Outside. Oh, we took pictures outside. Okay, that's what I was thinking. I mean, maybe we snuck a photo or something. You actually can take pictures. You can't take video. And if you take a picture, you need to make sure the live thing is off because that counts his video. Oh, wow. Oh, so if they ask you to check. Yeah. Wow. And At this point, contextually, we could cut this if you, would you like to, would you like to reveal something else about yourself?

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This is going to be a reveal to you as well. Oh, boy. I'm a former Club 33 member. Oh, is it? No. Okay.

Oh, no. Oh, no. A wallet has come out. You're going to burn it in front of us? I was wondering why he knew so much. I do. I do. Wow.

Well, this is good. But that, you know, that lets you be humble. Well, I'd like to be there. Maybe they can tell me how to turn the live photo option on and off because I always get mixed up with that. That's just a thing you need to know, fancy club aside. I'm not going to the Apple store looking at subreddits. I'm going to club 33 to get that support. I don't know what questions to ask or not ask about that.

I want to be, you know. You can ask anything and I will answer what I can. Okay, okay. Former. I've never actually read the contract, so I don't know what I am allowed to say. but let's you know I don't even have to ask let's just assume kicked out for selling mugs on yeah right that's why you know yeah that's you made over 50,000 dollars selling mugs on eBay so you're fine that's better than being in the club I do that my favorite mug

is the the spooky tree I know you're a big fan of spooky trees oh yes of course no I got this there's a mug of spooky trees I've seen that one yeah that's cool it's very cool there was a haunted mansion one recently I like I forget what it was I had the set of the portraits. Wow. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Cool shit.

Club 33 opinions of like what like favorite, favorite spots. What will you miss the most? It's the air conditioning. Yeah, sure. Air conditioning. 1901 and Club 33, it is a place where you can go and have a cocktail and get out of the sun and get out of the crowds. For me, it was like a little oasis. I have, you know, I had little kids.

Now they're older. and you know they'd want to do small world and that's it and so we just go to small world and hang out at the club all day now they want to do space mountain they want to do slash mountain they want to do where tion is up okay and so now we're going from place to place and you know it's not you got to like you got to force them into a spot right right yeah so why ground yourself so yeah i always actually preferred 1901 to the club yeah well you got you took you took Aaron and I in there years ago and I like I think before before I was in the one proper, which I also got to do with you, which thank you for both of those great times. But the, I remember all I like, yeah, 1901. I remember I was confused that I thought

all of Carthay was the private club. And I was like, dear God, how these people live. And then when I realized, then when I actually went to the Carthay Circle restaurant, like, oh, this is all, I can come here anytime. The regulars can come here. So imagine how mind blown I was that like, this is all for you. My God, your kingdom. We went tonight. But 1901 rule. Yeah. Yeah, we went together. One time we did, yeah, we did it all in then one day. That's the only time we've been to the stuff together or my only time going. A funny memory from that is that the Disneyland Tashan book, this giant coffee table book,

had just come out. And I remember around that time, too, I was like emailing the Tashon account, the Tashon website, because they had a media contact. And I sent them a number of emails trying to see. Get the book for free? Can we get the book for free? It's like $100 or something. How many emails did you send?

I think I probably used my email a couple. Just personal. This is the hardest. It's a club reporter in the history of the show. Free book please is the heading. Free book please. We've been doing this podcast for two and a half entire years. Or maybe not even then.

Do a search in your Gmail. No, one and a half. One and a half. searching your Gmail. See how many emails you sent and what the... I'd love to see what the language you used. But his emails. Maybe there was a follow-up. Did I use the show

account too? I don't know. He discovers there are actually 60 angry emails to Tasha and all unresponded to. And then there's just a lot of death threats. Gee, what this fuck or not? Leaving me... Leaving me on red feels very inefficient and that doesn't feel like the German way at all.

Give us... look to your roots change your behavior that that is fascinating I there's also the star I forget if I've told this on the show which is that and I think it was a long time ago if I ever did but that you know we got we met you and your wife Melissa there and the like it was in the time where I was I wanted I was going to propose to Aaron and we like got we got there before you guys and we were out on the patio watching fantastic end and we're in Club 33 oh my god this hmm is this it is this it and I was whole I had the ring with me thinking that this might be a neat and then I'm so I'm like

grabbing it I'm like seconds away from do I just pull do I just change the plan entirely and do it here because this would be a hell of a place to do it and then I just thought like but then that'll be that'll be a distracting thing at dinner I would be the best distraction ever I guess yes you would have been excited we would have been so excited I didn't want to pull focus You know No, I don't know And then also like

And also what if you like Here's the other thing is I'm starting to pull it out And then you guys walk up right then Hey what's going to Like midway through Then it's sort of a sitcomie And then do I bail or do I keep doing it Or do I say

Oh yeah that's true Oh no it startles me so much And then it just like Go down into a lady's big cat Graft grabs it eats it Yeah Cannon fire Immediately startles you for the pirate ship

What if Captain Jack stole it? Oh, I'll be taking that. That scoundrel. I'm impressed that you stayed in character today, but I still, I don't like when it affects me. Then he asks Aaron to marry him, and she said yes. Uh-oh. Damn it. I knew I was.

And here I thought I was her type. Needed longer hair and more scarves. Oh, he'll never be canceled. I already have to deal with the memory that you started dating me after you date it like a ninth gate Johnny Debt Secret Window Johnny Depp Secret you mean like the one it would stand up no that was one of the movies he made secret window Was it called secret window? It was called Secret Window I remember I know I know you're talking about Jeez I assume that was you were talking about like a Jack Sparrow that didn't resemble him enough to stay behind a window.

Oh, I was like, well, I'm sure Jack Sparrow pops out of secret windows in Worldland Square all the time. Yeah, there it is secret window. I remember the poster. Yeah, yeah. The glasses, he looks very smart. That is, boy, that is the kind of poster a movie has and the kind of title movies have. Secret window. I believe that is a real thing and not a money laundering scheme.

There it is, the real movie secret window. You can tell a lot about the movie from that poster. There's clearly a window and it's supposed to be a secret. I don't know. There's a man. It's almost too spoilery of a poster in a way. They really should have been more vague. This is good one.

He was like wearing a cardigan. And the word window is glitching out. Or a broken. Oh, right. Oh, kind of like, oh, yeah. This is great graphic design work on the part of everyone involved in secret window. Not a universal film as far as I know.

I'm not educated in that. Can't speak to that. Maybe I'll make it out. Anyways, fond memories all. And you, all of this to say, just in having you on the show, that you, like, I feel you've always had, like, grown-up kid energy. Like, we very much of the same generation, excited about the same stuff. And I feel like of everybody in our class, I can't you as one of the people who was the most, like, oh, my God, I'm doing that. This is childhood dream shit.

Like, everybody was excited to get that job, to get into the training, to be, you know, accepted into the academy. but then also to the prestigious academy. But then to get it and like this is what I'm doing every day is this thing that I dreamed of doing when I was 10 years old. I felt like a line with you in that. Oh, it really was a childhood dream. I had the tour memorized when I was five years old. So I still had to study my ass off.

Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, one thing to grow up, pali. I did. Oh, okay. Yeah, I grew up in Thousand Oaks. And yeah, we went to Universal all the time, went to Disney all the time. So, yeah, I come by it, honestly.

And, yeah, it was a dream come true. It really was. Yeah, anyone who knows me, like, I'm chronically late for everything. I was on time for that job every single day. Wow. Every day. And for this recording. You were early for this recording.

Yeah, that just shows you. To talk about the job. Yeah, yeah, the respect you still show. The respect is there. Yeah, it was, it was a dream. It's so much fun And yeah I instantly gravitated towards you

I was a little star-stark of you Because you had You had one of the first viral videos Well you knew that then I had seen I don't know if I told you that I don't know if I told you that That could be another reveal here

But yeah I don't I had seen I had seen the Pac-Man on YouTube Wow And I was a fan Here's one never mentioned before Early First first year of YouTube,

maybe first half year of YouTube because when it, like I was still in college when it came out, I was like, oh my God, all these videos I've been making in high school in college, I got somewhere to put them now. And that was a class project. I did that for an effects class. Really? In my junior year

of college, and with the side goal of, well, this might be good on YouTube. This is now, imagine listener, here, I'm going to pitch you a premise. Imagine if there was a sketch that was an old, old property, that it seems ridiculous to turn into a movie. And then it was a trailer for that,

and it was a movie of Pac-Man. Now, here I am selling it out because I feel like I have to, this many years down there. But at the time, at the time, in 2006, it felt like a unique thing to do. And it really, like, yeah, it really caught fire

because those were the days where it was possible to get onto the front page of YouTube.com. Yes, it was. I did it too. Did you? Wow, wow. Oh, man. It was crazy.

How did you get? you just get it because somebody saw your video or did you like know a guy? I feel like I knew a guy at a certain point. I didn't know a guy and I don't really remember the answer to that. But it was something that I ended up submitting for this, that NBC weird NBC pilot that was like viral videos that I've mentioned before on this. There was a college video I made about it was a room raiders parody where like the woman found like an arm in the fridge in a in a dorm room. and then it was like very much like just like stealing the style

until she found like there was a dead body in one of the rooms but I don't think it I think it may be where I got 50 I pulled all of it off of YouTube I pull all these sketches because I'm like that's not as good as it sure I should love that one up honestly

yeah that one actually was still I go that's a pretty good premise I have not pulled Pac-Man so I'm assuming that there is nothing cancelable that happens oh hopefully we're not opening I don't think we got if anything it'll probably just seem like

rudimentary, but I was 20, keep in mind. Yeah, sure. The thing that embarrasses me the most about it is that the, at the end, it sends you to a website, and my website at the time was of MySpace. Oh, wow. That was, I was not, I did not have a dot com at that time, so I, what views were, I think I got 50,000 views and I felt like the world had seen this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's, that's mighty at the, yeah, absolutely.

No, oh my God, that's crazy that you knew that and saw that then. but you knew that like meeting me in the in the training that I was I was riding away a title wave of viral success eating them all squatting them away with a broom at that point I don't know at what point I made the connection that you made the video but it was definitely during our training class wow wow oh that's crazy yeah oh geez well that's cool oh thanks for thanks for saying that I yeah I mean yeah I I do just remember that, like, because you were in, you were a person who, like, big Back to the Future person, big Ghostbusters and big Ninja Turtles. And obviously, I mean, like, yeah, hell yeah.

There was some Ninja Turtles chat before. Yeah, we did our Ninja Turtle movie rankings before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I couldn't go very far in that because I never seen past two. You've never seen the third one? Never did three, no. Wow. I saw in theaters.

That was my third grade birthday party. So I had my seven. No, my, yeah, my seven-year-old birthday party, my eight-year-old party. Both of them came out on my birthday. The first one and the second one came out on my birthday. What month? March 30th. Okay, I'm March 7th.

Okay, yeah, same as Eisner. Two early. Same as I mean. Of course, yeah, yeah. It's a very famous date, of course, for two reasons. Yeah, we had Turtles 3 birthday. Yes, it was very exciting. So did you enjoy it?

Because. Oh, the time? Even as a kid, I was like, this isn't very good. I felt that way watching a TV ad I think I just like I think oh No I like I liked it I thought it Yeah and there were movies that I didn't I've said this before

Like when you first like realized Oh maybe this movie isn't very good Like side kicks or something Like I have a weird feeling or the lassie movie Even though I've talked about how The Lassie movie has no climax Which I was happy because I was like Oh good they're not gonna like have to fight or it

Like there's no gonna be no stress for me But like there'd be movies you would see sometimes So I'm like Do you realize by saying that what you just did to your own career because do you know who produced the Lassie movie from the 90s? I actually don't. Lauren Michaels. I didn't know that.

It's really weird. You could look up on YouTube an interview of Lauren Michaels talking about like, well, I think it's just, it's important to, you know, I think people like dogs. Like, it's weird. Why are you the producer of this? Wow. That's so funny. It's a really strange outlier in the filmography.

I think he just, I think he ended up with the rights. He bought a weird pile. He might have owned Rankin Bass for the minute. That's what you're looking into. IP estate sale and Lassie was in there he didn't even know like Wow, all right, make a lassie. That's a weird I feel like I know a decent amount about Lorne

but I did not remember or know that that's so funny but anyway I thought I thought they go back in time comedy gold the guys from back in time come into the present hilarious. They don't know what's going on it's a laugh a minute

or some fighting I did notice that the one guy the character Walker falls off the top of the bridge at the end of the movie and like falls into the water and the effect is so bad you just see the little actor

disappear before he hits the water and then there's a splash so even at the time I was like well that I know that looks like shit why couldn't they make that look better I wasn't totally out of it but I was still like turtles not really

the main thing I was going for it is the ninja turtles are in it. The faces look weird that weren't the henson suits anymore so they look extra strange by the way he sold all of this in 96 he sold it to the golden books enterprise he owned this he owned lassie

owned rank and best and he owned Felix the cat wow really yeah for like five weird years I just tried to show my daughter Felix the Cat cartoon because I have a Felix the Cat clock and the Felix the cat cartoon is fucking weird from the old days there's like I forget the name of the bad guy is it a Fleischer brothers one I think so yeah there's a weird weird pirate

villain who's so scary. I forget his name. And that's just, I'm like whoever liked it. I mean, I do like it, but who would have liked it as a kid? I don't know. This seems so scary. Did you show her ones from the 30s? Yes. Or that remake from the 80s? No, no, 30s. We went real. We did the real shit.

Yeah. The real shit. Which equals Felix, the cat. You drove her down to the car dealership. She didn't like it. I go, do you like this? She goes, no. Anybody want me to turn off? Yes. But she does not do a lot. David,

has your recent luck turning the kids on to things that are important to you? Well, here's, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because not that long ago, we were taking a little road trip. I can't remember where we're gone. But my kids are old enough now where, you know, they can hear some bad words. It's not a big deal. So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to put on my friend's podcast.

Oh. It's about Disneyland. Oh, no. The 70th anniversary. Oh, no. No, I know where this is going because this happened to Candace Lurray and Johnny Gargano, too. On the same episode, I know exactly what you're going to say. Why do we have to do?

No, yeah, we were on the way to Disneyland. And I'm like, oh, well, I don't really, you know, maybe they have some insight as to what's going on. And we put it on. And my daughter said, you said this is about Disneyland, but they just talk about tuna. Oh, and there's some bad things. said about. There's a lot of testosterone talk in there, too. You see what happens? You see what happens when you say

every episode. Now you have to look him in the eye and think about what you said. There's a real world ramification here. I mean, I do. I like, I apologize. I apologize because this happens a lot. Good. Good. I happen to a friend from home. Well, it's up with tuna talk. I mean, I don't apologize for tuna talk. But that's awesome. No,

but there was the one aspect of it that I've declared the most disgusting thing ever said on the show. I understand that, but we built it together. You said the, the, the word first and then I built upon this scapegoating built a foundation for a house and I just decided to finish the house all right I in this case I know that I said and look if any now if any children are I pause pause while I admit that I did say the word jiz in a separate thought not related to yeah yeah yeah and I heard of a sentence the tuna was in no one way it's we didn't want to do like

you know, it wasn't appealing to do so much about land surveying and housing development owners and where are they now? Where's the family now? You usually try to get us back to land surveyors on every episode.

I know. Yeah, I'm like, all right, so having a lot of fun, gentlemen, but. All right, and you survive. But the land surveyors have not been named. There was a funny, very generic housing development name where it's like most of them.

He's doing it. He's doing it. He's doing it. Many episodes. All right. Let's hear the name. The blue ball sub-development where I'm like that. Was it blue ball?

Huh? That's a little different than generic. If it was the blue ball. What's the road in Anaheis? You said ball. Uh, I did because I couldn't remember the sign in Anaheim. I couldn't remember if his ball or bell. I just think it's...

I know what the term means, but it's also... Oh, we've all had experience. For that term, sure I have. It's a generic friend. I have seen it as like a street. Blue Ball and Blue Ball Street? I believe I have seen it. Hang on.

Singular ball, one ball? We're getting off top. Do you look? No, we're not on topic. Is that our ball road? Now he wants to decide from the Zowerbite. I think I've mashed up Blue Bell and Blue Ball in this instance. This man is the filthiest man I met in L.A.

You always say that. True. This is Mike's current campaign. He's trying to get you to lock back into. Evolution, Michael. Maturity, picking your spots. I'm trying to bring you back. I'm trying to rally up and bring it back.

The water's warm here. A lot of that stuff didn't work. Like a lot of that stuff didn't. What? He's disavowing. Mike is so nostalgic. Mike is nostalgic from when you were a dirty bastard. And here you are saying it didn't work.

That's not who I am anymore. It did work. Some of it worked, but also comedy change. that was over a decade ago. It's the landscape of comedy is different and that's why Jason... I'm not saying anything you said was cancelable. Sorry. Nothing was cancelable that I would say.

I'm woke now. They call me the most woke podcaster. You're making it seem weirder. That's not what I'm saying. You were just saying dirty stuff. It was nasty. It was nasty. It was nasty.

You're a nasty boy. Admit it. You know it's in there. Before we knew each other better, he would say and he's the nastiest boy. I have to find a project to do with the little nasty boy. Yeah. Like one of those the nasty boys, the wrestlers.

Brian Knobbs, you know. All I was getting at was seriously, very generic. Blue Ball's Road, I know. Housing development name that I'm like, that's pretty, I have never seen, I've seen like the one in Florida, the improvement

the Reedy Creek Improvement District. You think these words are going to make us forget that you said that the company's called Blue Ball. Now, you're right that there is a town called Blue Ball, Pennsylvania. In the street, I don't know. Oh, there's a place in Maryland called Blue Ball Village.

These are all places I've been. You went to Blue Ball Village? That, I don't know it's possible. All of us have spent some time in Blue Ball Village. Well, David, you now you have inadvertently created another moment that will alienate another listener. You fast down to another daughter like yours.

It has. There's nothing. That episode is just chaos, and now it affects everything it touches. But, you know, honestly, when it got to the Jizz, they'd both tuned out by that, and they were listening at the point. I'm sure, absolutely. Yeah, they went from tuna to hot dogs to chili, and they're like, we're done. But I loved it. I loved every minute.

This is you on your own time, Dan. Thank you. Did you tell her they won't love chili? I didn't. That is how I should have. traveled with a can and they left the country you know that's true this is the way kids love that stuff were you ever to have children this is the luck they would have they'd get they'd get stories like this and generic housing

development names lives to be riddled uh with great facts but this is see this is what we got to do which to spread great facts day to day this became our do you recall anything about anything interesting about getting it or what like it must have occurred to you to have this job but when did you like this? When did you realize this was your time to strike? I can't remember where I heard that they were holding auditions. But as soon as I did, I knew, you know, I was unemployed. And I believe the auditions were at the Friars Club in Beverly Hills.

Oh, wow. What? Not mine. No. So we were in the same class, right? But I think we came from, yeah. So with Perry Smith, he was there with me. I knew we were going to be friends when he made a joke.

He said, you know, let's tuck his. the guts boys were tour guides and I was an obscure Ghostbusters reference I'm like we're going to be good friends I remember I came to love him because there was a little trivia thing in the training where it's somebody something about naming the

the little bear from a tail spin and before the sentence was over he yelled kick cloud kicker screamed it just angrily like how dare you ask that stupid question everyone was seated and he stood up and yelled

it. Is it Kitts or yeah, Kitts? Okay. I don't know. He knew better than me. He was on it. But anyway, the Friars Club, really? There was an audition process at the Friars Club. Were you in the summer or the spring? Was that the difference between you and I? Summer, I believe. Maybe there were just a few sets. Or maybe spring. It's all kind of a blur. Sure. But yes, it was the Friars Club and we had to do improv and there was like a one-on-one interview. If you passed the improv stage, that was all the first audition. Yes. And then there was a second audition. at Universal. Or it was more of an interview.

Yes. And then, yeah, I made it to the class. And I met you. Maybe they combined spring and summer. I don't know. Maybe. Yeah, yeah. I did feel like a few of you guys got there a little before, yeah,

because mine was at the old Globe Theater, which is where the Secret Life of Pets ride is now. And then the smaller one that had a little bit of improv element was at the Garland Hotel in North Hollywood, where I used to live. which I go there I'll go to that restaurant every once in a while

I'll try to get some work done there and every time I always walk up to the theater and I give it a look and like this day this is a lucky place it's where it all again

and I remember specific I don't know if you remember any of like what helped you get the job but I was it felt like a great place to like where I didn't have to force it

I had such sincere enthusiasm for a universal film just flowing through me at all times which is back to the future too and there was something where because you

otherwise you might have had to fake it You're like, what was universal? And, but, like, of course I know Back the Future, too. Major. That's one of the biggest things about going on the tour is getting to see, like, that's where the Hall of Graham Jaws was. So I said, I, like, I said something so sincerely about how I love how it's a movie that gets so convoluted that they have to take out a chalkboard and draw on it to explain what's happening to you. And they loved that. They loved that.

All right, that's like a sincere observation. That's a little funny about, like, so, yeah, I, being a Back of the Future, adoring kids. in 96 or whatever and then like that it pays off so huge in 2006 what a what a magical thing but you're but you had to make you had to

like override the cigar stench of the yes we did and think about the legends who have walked on why I was there that's so strange I have no idea but yeah didn't get roasted did you see friars were they there the friars were gone

okay don't know where the friars went Maybe they're in the back room. There were no fed. Were there fezes on a table or? I can't remember. Wait, is that filthy robes? Who knows? Shriners wear the fezes.

Okay. Sorry, no, I guess. Comedy's no fun these days. You get, don't get to join weird clubs. Yeah. We try, yeah. There's the Elks Lodge and all that. I can never remember what like is the uniform.

But yes, Shriners hat, little car. Little car. Friars, no, just regular clothes. Ground robe and rope. Well, what's, brown robe? That's a different kind of friar, I guess. That's the stone cutters, that's the stone cutters. No, no, well, yeah.

No, the Catholic friar is usually. Oh, yeah, yeah. Different friar, different friar, different friar. Baldhead with the ring, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember anything else about, like, the interview process? Because what I remember very strongly is having to, they wanted to test. It was, it was almost, this was very foreign to me.

This is very, like, what happens on actor auditions, and I'm not particularly an actor. So like the quick memorizing like hey we'll meet with you in a minute but here's a piece of paper and could you just like absorb all this and like spit it back to us when you get in there and that was very foreign to me and what that was was having to say all of the names and houses of the desperate housewives and then once I got that job I was like I don't know how I did it the first time I don't every single time I'd go like and this is the home of Evie played by oh Nicolette Sheridan, maybe, I want to say. But it was a perfect test because, like, Yellow House. Name of actress, name of character. Fact about character for a show. I don't watch, never watched.

They've had no interest in watching. But that was my, I remember being nervous because that Desperate Housewives stuff. Yeah, I'm terrible with memorizing names. So I don't know how I pass that part. One time on the tram, you know, you're always looking for celebrity sightings. and CSI had had they rap for the day and all the whole cast came out and you know I couldn't remember Mark Helgenberger Mark Helgenberger I only know because I couldn't yeah so I'm trying to think of the names of the CSI cast and I say to the to the to the Torah said if you look on

your right all your favorite stars Hey, could you There they are folks You should pluck other Other roles Like when you were going by Like the Despera Housewise And it's like

And that's the House of the Phyllis actress Felicity Huffman's character Who also played Don on Sports Night That's valid That's pretty odd I think I think Oh cool

A fact I think is Yeah As long as you're Any true facts That you could put out there doesn't matter how you pivot to it sure that is true it's the art of transition yeah wow so so all of that is syndicated sports night on comedy central from the early 2000's knowledge could have paid off if it's you being enthusiastic about a property that's out there then absolutely and that's

what they want it was the part of the thing which was a little bit like made up a little like I don't know how much we actually had to do this but like in theory they would puff it up as like you're not just like talking on a ride this is you need to become an ambassador to Hollywood from Hollywood I don't know you're representing Hollywood

in the studio what yes the entertainment capital of L.A. We were just discussing this how they they've you were saying they've shied away

from this I said it Jason said it I have been told like oh they're not they're not calling it that anymore wow

hmm can't I don't lie yeah I don't know but the but you know they tried to they wanted us

to be like founts of knowledge to where some of the training, and I'm curious if you remember this, because here I'm going to do, I've done this in every episode, I'm going to bring out the old the old girl. Here it comes, here it

comes. Binder. The book, the big binder. Do you still have yours? I do not. I do have my, where is it? All access pass. Wow, there it is. Wow. Oh, man.

Oh, geez. That feels so But I don't know what happened to the binder. Oh, man. That's a good one, though. You got your lanyard. Wow. After leaving Universal, I used this all access pass to get free parking for years. Yes.

I've been saying that's why I stayed on the schedule. That was the prime. And then I made a photocopy of it. I told this on the show before, but I made a photocopy of it. And then the parking attendant was like, wait, let me see that. Looked at it. They seized it. And then it ended up up in the office at the desk of somebody we knew, Molly, who was like,

what the fuck, Scott? I had a fake ID. Scott encountered the one go-getter parking attendant. Yeah, they were so cut through. They're the head of universal pictures now. They were so locked in on that parking attendant job. I defend the brand at all costs. But I brought this out to say because in looking through

and just like leafing through just like random paper and organizing it, what I found was, there's like addresses of places. I had meetings to go. I, like, wrote down, like, here's the way to get to this internship I ended up doing. But what I found was one of the things they made us do was you had to give a little book report about an NBC show. They, do you have any memory of this? I have no recollectual.

They, like, just pointed to all of us. They went down the line, and they said NBC shows that are currently on the air, and we had to do a little report about what it is. Wow. I don't know for what purpose. I guess, just to get you in the frame of mind. Yeah, plug in the, yeah. Yeah, yeah, and you could be able to talk about kind of anything in any of our properties. But so I wrote out, I had to do a little report about the show, Las Vegas, which I don't, do I don't sense a lot of familiar?

Oh, I'm familiar. Oh, I'm familiar. Oh, I'm familiar. No. Whoa. Wait a minute. Okay. Like, let's wait.

You just said like two names, I think. Josh Chimel. I said Nikki Cox. He said James Khan. Yes. Can any of you, all right. Well, let's just make this instead of me doing it. Can you, yeah.

Do you think you could tie Jason? I mean with another actor? Yeah, yeah. Yes, all right, it's yours to tie. Can you name one more fact about the show Las Vegas? Otherwise, Jason takes it. I don't think so. Were there four actors on it?

There was a number of actors on it. Oh, okay. Okay, good, yeah, because a lot of the promotional commercials were mostly stock footage of Las Vegas and neon lights. That's a good way to get your show done cheap. That was very good though. You came right out with that. You didn't even know it was a competition.

It wasn't until I decided it was in very. good. You win the Las Vegas Trivia. Really hoping you wrote a book report on Studio 60 on the Sunset Street. Oh, not quite there yet. It was coming up. It was just around the end. Oh, right. It was, oh, it's plausible that I would, we

could have been hyping up. This fall everything's changing. Monday nights at the EFKLA campus, I had a media law class and they were like everyone if you're going to the LA campus, they were doing a semester in LA, take me to a

out there it's a lot simpler it's usually just a lawyer picking up some extra work and he was like all right and i'm gonna wrap up class early i'm sure we all want to go home and watch studio 60 on the sunset strip because it was about to premiere and in the first after the first couple weeks like he didn't really release this early to watch that tv show did not sense that need not we have to know what happens how else what else will we talk about tomorrow and so many of us said Inquiry letters trying to intern on it and the only one who got to do it was because She was her mother was cousins with Bradley Whitford and they were they didn't have interns on She was the only intern on the show and she only got in because she got to be on the set of crazy

Christians related to a star of the show were you all in on it when you were watching it live Well I think the pilot was released early on iTunes and we're like okay that was kind of I have some cool people in that. Network because like network. We were all in when it was starting because we, at the time, it was like, all right, there's a behind the scenes. The SNL from Aaron Sorkin and one from Tina Feyn. Who's going to win the race?

Some dog shit that ain't going to last. It isn't fit to lap up what Aaron Serkin's back watch. 30 rock out pushed to the spring. And it's like, oh, Rachel's Ratch isn't really doing much in it anymore. And then like it just over the year, just picked. up steam so quickly. See, I'm so nostalgic for 2006 because of this life-changing job I got.

Jason is nostalgic because of the general events around the airing of Studio 6th. We were so excited. That's why I'm wondering, and he's not fully saying, but I feel like he was all in until it was canceled. We were all kind of all. We were all like television production majors.

We were all like, oh, Aaron Stewart's back. Supposedly he's clean. You're all disgusting of being clean. knew about his mushrooms. We knew about his mushrooms and his rehab and stuff. I was in college still. The good television. Yeah, we were on college and reading scripts.

I was excited as well for both of the shows. I was like so excited. I don't think I may have purchased the show early. And I went, wait a minute. I suspect this is not what comedy writers are like at all. This isn't. This actually sucks. And I never watched another episode of it.

Come on. I think we've all found it. All comedy writers are mean and virulent and threaten each other at all times. Brothers kidnapped by Al-Qaeda. Yes, yeah, mainly. They're always fighting the scourge. They're always up against the war in Afghanistan. What's the record?

What's the record Nate Cordry buys his parents? Abbott and Costello. Yeah, he's like, you're going to go home and you're going to listen to this who's on first record. And you're going to laugh. You're going to laugh. I feel like it's embedded. It's in the D&N. It's in all podcasts.

There's no studio 60. Because it was like the right time when you're like, oh, I love SNL. And oh, wow, it could be a cool Aaron Sorkin show. Well, but everyone's got like, when did you dip out? Yeah. Usually episode 5 or 6, but there was more. Years later, I learned about the War on Terror angle. Mine is, I'll admit that I hung on an entourage a lot longer than I should have.

This show is cool. I can see you still thinking that theme song's pretty Point the figure at the bar Oh yeah Oh yeah Yeah of course I mean I guess I'd be excited if I was at a restaurant And the theme from entourage was playing

Just his music Oh I would fucking lose it If I was just sitting in a restaurant Mike That is more fitting for you Because Eddie is kind of the laughy taffy of television programs Wait a minute laughing tabby's a pretty good

candy is it not but kind of not in the top right I'd like you to expand upon what you just said I'm saying kind of disposable we'll get to the giant monkey that is I know you're really kind of like yeah I'll have one whatever you heard the show

you know what you were getting into he's just blaming you anyway I mean that's not true Michael of course I'm blaming myself Oh, wow, I'm sorry. Well, Lafie Taffy's best flavor is banana. Hey, good.

Whoa, the art of the segue. That's what you learned. We were all dancing around it, but you plucked the ripe apple. It is the best flavor. Wow, it is probably some of the same chemicals that were used to create King Kong's famous banana breath. When we talked about, because when I asked you to be part of Sip Tramber, and I'm so good you could, and I was like, let me just present the whole list and let me see if like, you know, are you going to want to do like an obscurity, like something weird?

Because something I remember specifically is that in our, when we started in 2006, they were not running the collapsing bridge. And I remember you bemoaning that. I'm like, I was the kind of opinion I like that, like, he wishes. And it's right there. We're looking at it. They can't even, you're just supposed to point at it and talk about it, but we don't get to feel the bridge go clunk.

Did you ever get to do it? They brought it back at some point. I don't know at what point, but I definitely got to do the cheesy, you know, what happened to the fifth car? Like, childhood dream come true. Oh, what happened to the fifth car? It's good.

That's a great joke. Yeah. And then there's another, you know, the bridge is made of a very special kind of wood. We call Hollywood. I mean, I ate that shit up as a kid and I loved doing it. But you got to do the lines you loved as a kid. Yeah, exactly.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Anything else in that, I do, yeah, I recall that you, like, sort of the tradition of the, like, the eye rollers. And you wouldn't do, because it was one way you could do the eye rollers is just kind of like, that's kind of like, that's probably of Hollywood. Coming up on that, but you would like do more, you would like live in it. You'd like do a big enthusiastic deliver with bright eyes and wait for a laugh that didn't come and then milk the no laugh. Like, you love that. Yes. I remember staring at the camera for just like minutes, waiting for a laugh.

Waiting. Yeah, still waiting, still waiting. Maybe someone will laugh because. it's so awkward, that kind of thing? Nope, it didn't happen. But I'm still going to do it. I don't care. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, what you grew up with. My, do you remember, you know, this is 20 years ago, so I forgive you if you don't remember, but my favorite tour of all time was your tour and you're going along and you're doing a great job. And I start heckling you. Yes. From the front row. Yes.

Okay. I didn't remember until we had an email exchange a while back. Yeah. That's crazy that I did that, but yes, but yes, now I recall. yes a whole little thing happened a whole thing so it was you know we we planned this out ahead of time and i start heckling you and you're saying you know if you look on these new york streets you know transformers were filmed here like no it wasn't you're a fool of shit i don't know what i said but i was just heckling you the whole time yeah and you get so upset and you say you rip

off your your your headset and you say you think this is easy you think you can do this job I'm like, yeah, I think I can. Like, okay, come on. Come on, let's see you. And we switch places. And I keep going with the tour as if nothing happened. You just put it on and do it perfectly. Because you're training.

Like, now we're entering Wisteria Lane and on your right. And I look out no, just stone face. Like nobody gave us anything. We thought it was hilarious. We're going to subvert this entire thing. We're going to do an Andy Kaufman, Tony Clifton. We are going to blow their minds. This is better than King Kong

what they're going to see it out. You guys, as you were talking about this, I'm like, you know, we were talking about how the tour's a little slight right now. They should have a plant doing something like that. Yes, yes. But I think if I was like, maybe they get eaten by the mummy's tumor or something.

Like, and I'm like, oh, no, that's just a great movie ride. And then you'd probably have to have an actor. And then they'd probably be upset by like, I only got to pay two. tour guys, we got to pay a tour guy, I had an actor, and I, like, was delighted by this and then immediately talked myself out of it with the raw practicality up in my brain. You gave yourself a low budget. You just, you low budgeted your own blue sky idea.

Well, yeah, we can attest to that if things like that happened, no one would understand it. There would be no reaction whatsoever. What if when the flood happens, like a new tour guide surfs down on a surfboard? jumps from this report into the tram vehicle. Perfectly, yes, propels themselves from the blast. Yes, headfirst into the car. That's cool. That's cool. Doer guide, hazing, and that's the sort of hazing you used to find on NBC's Delta House.

If anyone remembers Delta House from the 1980s. Could we get you hired, Jason, Dill? You could still just, like, do a couple weeks of it. I love it. I know, I mean, there's, yeah, limitations, but, like, could you just do a couple, like, a day? I feel like we've looked into this. before. Well, I needed to cool down. Did he try to get you? Did you try to

get him this job before? The only job I tried to get him at Universal's was Austin Powers in Singapore. And that was years ago. I said, oh my God, look at this list thing. Or somebody said it to me, I don't remember. Has this happened any time this has come up on the show or every time it's come up on the show, have I made

you try to do an Austin Powers voice? I think we have, that seems familiar. Well, let's do it again. It feels like the fitting answer is. We've done like 500 episodes. I have a photo of Jason jumping in front of the bar on Melrose that has a male and female symbol on the bathroom. And I made him imitate Austin jumping. Wow. And I have a picture on Instagram.

This is the kind of nasty shit that Jason won't do. He won't go near Austin Powers. Austin Power photos get out of here. All these wonderful businesses that have been three businesses since then probably. That's probably true. Not to Mike. To him, you guys were the entourage of that Melrose bar. That's right.

We had cool symbols. We were like entourage, Jason, on the old days. We and the boys? That's all he wants. He just wants you to get nasty. Right. And he's got, come on. Exactly.

He's changed. He's changed, but he hasn't changed. That's what my philosophy is. It's still in there. Brother. Yeah. We'll go to birds and share a Papp's blue ribbon. Share it.

Why don't have to share it? Share. Why are you sharing a few. Well, he used to do that. Ways that one-n-n-not. It's $2 beer. I don't know.

Well, I think it's been a long time since those were $2 beers. I think they're up to four. That is not what we used to do. I don't know. I guess we can, but two long straws out of a Papp's Blue Ribbon. Can I say one more thing off of that of just like things that we tried to do to like keep it alive for ourselves? Because it was a dream to get the job. But then by like the second summer, you were probably feeling the same way of me of like, oh boy, back, here we go.

when a little bit of the magic was gone. 100%, and you're just, like, I don't know, just when you add a little bit of time off and now it's like getting a little road. So we would do these things to try to freshen things up. And I have a friend named, this I think people would have noticed. I have a friend, Brian Ng, who was my college roommate,

who was responsible for the duck tail stomping incident, if you remember that bit of PT or lore. But he's a guy who'd like to do, like he was incredible with practical effects. did monster movies and he could like so if I ever needed anything like insane gory that he would just do himself out of plaster or whatever he's the guy to talk to and when I got this job he had a pitch for me which was all right here's what we should do I'll come on the tour I will sit just like put me in a prime

spot for a particular attraction and when the moment comes the moment being jaws it'll just go according to plan like normal but then once my row passes jaws, I will stand up with a bloody stump of an arm that is gushing blood and screaming because jaws took a bite out of me. And there was a minute there, I was like, that's the best idea I've ever heard. Let's figure out a date. Let's get on it. You start building the arm. And I think quickly, I started to go, well, that is an instant firing. That is an absolutely gone forever. That is complaints at the front that goes like many layers above the tram itself maybe they have to give free tickets to any kids on board who had to witness that but can you imagine if that had happened

I mean maybe that's worse losing the job for to have somebody you plan a guy to be gushing blood because jaws ate them that goes right to the incident section of the tour Wikipedia we got to flesh out that incident section yeah yeah there haven't been enough That's the coolest incident And nobody got hurt Not for real Other than psychological scarring It's a little slim right now

So some performance Some theatricality These are ideas For current tour guides If you want to spice it up And spice up the whole thing for yourself We've talked about this Anthony Gio had a job on the lot

And Jason and I went to visit him years ago And it's so crazy how they let you just If you're on the lot You can get away with anything Go anywhere you want We went literally behind Dammity Yeah And we've talked about that

You can run it I think you could run onto that bridge and be fine. I don't know what he's going to stop. But we were just waiting for tours to come by. We did the famous, we were acting shocked when Jalz came out of the water. But, like, you could really, like, get on the lot somehow, dress up, like, in full, like, I don't know, bloody clothes. Oh, yeah. Get in the water.

Yeah. And come out of the water when the tour comes by. Oh, smurge right before the tours coming. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. Like sit under the doctor or something so they couldn't see you. Yeah.

Like emerge. now whoever got you on the lot's probably going to get in trouble yeah but maybe you run away and they just don't know who it was and you get right out of there just running into the hills just go straight into the hills right make sure you know how to climb you can go up through the neighborhood as long as you can climb the steepest hill you've ever climbed yeah just like go and just go then climb over a fence and you're probably good to go right but imagine the victory of getting to see what's behind amity the town the fronts what's back there dirty broken office chairs. This is also, this has been referenced. Yes. There's all their office chairs. And of course, my just smiling and waving at the tour. But yes, Jason blew the bit.

I didn't want to bring it up. I'm not bringing up again. I was going to do a bit and I was like, I'm going to do a bit where I seem excited from the chart. Gio said, let's act scared when Josh comes out of the water. The tram pulls up. Gio and I go, ah! And Jason, I don't even think you were waving. I think you just weren't paying attention.

I think you wandered away. I was examining the officers. We were like, Jason, just looks scared. You also, you alluded, David, to some, like, hijinks on the lot that you were not supposed to be getting up to. An early date night, perhaps. Yes, yes. Well, before I get into that, I did get a chance to walk through the Red Sea. Really?

Yeah. Late night, drunk up. Oh, wow. Yeah, me and a couple of, you weren't there. I was there, no, no, no. Yeah, it was me, our friend Joe Stezer, and yeah, we got drunk at Health the Moon and showed the all-axis pass or maybe we just snuck on and we're like, let's walk through the Red Sea and we did it and it was amazing. Wait, like, and was it down or? No, no, it wasn't down.

You just went through? We just kind of swam through it. Really? It was like up to our waist. I was really picturing the effect. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. You had no way to make it part.

No, no, no. Right, right. So, yeah, we didn't have our Moses. It was just walk right through. And everyone did it? And it seemed like a good idea. I think it was just me and Joe. I think there's maybe like five of us.

Yeah. And I think maybe we were only two. Maybe I was one of those. Maybe I was one of the. Yeah, that would be a cool idea. I got somewhere there. It's not because I'm scared. It's not because I'm scared.

Is there, there are, you can go in. I'm trying to think of, like, hijinks. Like, you could, could you sleep in one of the rooms in the base motel? I'm sure you could. So, yeah, on our, me and my wife now. Our first date snuck on to the back lot. And this is four or five years since I've stopped working at Universal. But we snuck on and hung out at the Bates Motel, signed the guest book.

Wow. What's that? How did you get on if you were going to? I knew, somehow I knew that there was one door that they don't lock. Wow. Wow. Or, no, I jumped the fence and then opened the door for my wife. That is what happened.

Wow. Again, that's actually brazen. This actually started at Howl at the Moon and Lil Tipsy. Where all the best ideas begin. Just punching out of guard at Walters Gate, the security gate that goes backstage by the. Of course. The Anahito's. Was there like a song you would always request at Howl at Moon?

I do know that kind of our song became a white wedding because we were there and there's one guy who, was really butchering the song and you could tell like his friends made him go up and do it and he didn't want to be there and Melissa my wife says uh go grab the microphone and and finish the song for him like no no and I look at her I'm like okay she she's I want to impress this girl so I do I'm just like hey buddy I got you and I take it and I just take a whole song so that's so uh that would be the song that I would request if it was still around but sadly as you know that's a good one to like morph into the piano format that's kind of a change of genre

on you know yeah all right look at that I found something I might have liked it at doing piano that's good I mean maybe they'll be some sort of doing pianos will come back city walks about to have a renaissance so perhaps you guys exactly what he wants they're feeding the beast

I'm feeding the beast thank you for that I'm just saying what everyone's thinking okay so I'm glad we're talking about all this other stuff is so very fun Okay, let's weave to the main event, the big guy, the reason for the season, the Beast himself, Mr. Beast, as I like to call him. We're talking, we're talking King Kong. I was starting to say earlier, yeah, I didn't know if you'd pick like some like some obscurity. And then I think like, like of course, like how do you not go for he of the Banana Breath himself, King Kong?

are you similar to me was this like the crux of the joy of this job absolutely i mean getting to yell at king kong it was the highlight of my day of my year of my life really it's yeah it was everything i wanted it to be it truly i i certain things like did i get tired of saying the desperate housewives names yes was i tired of that on the first day yes i was yelling at king kong it was And if I was having a bad day, if I was tired, if I was thinking about other stuff, I was like, you motherfucker, for this thing, you need to give, you give these guys, you give it your all, you give it gusto. And, you know, do it for them, but do it for yourself, too. Think about what you get to do, what you're getting paid to do right now. I try to match Kelly King's energy.

Like, I was going for the Academy Award on every single Kong encounter. Man, good for you. Yeah, that's so great. Let me do one of these, just before we dive in. Let me do one of these classic podcast, The Ride, Iper topic sections. Because we've, with King Kong is especially one of the biggest traps of like, well, it really requires this episode and this episode and this episode. And here's what's weird. We've done confrontation with Brett Davis years ago, which is the Florida King Kong ride, which this very much led to.

And, you know, but there's probably some King Kong talk in there. We've done Kong Skull Island, which is there. The Islands of Adventure version of the Peter Jackson 360. And we have in a true blackout COVID state of delirium, I believe we did an episode about Santa Kong, which is when this robot wore a hat. I know we did it, but I don't remember a thing about the episode. No, not at all.

That's one of the, like, that's really one of those, like I have to look it up to make sure. That doesn't preclude you for, if you have, David, if you have anything to say about when this Kong would wear a hat, obviously throw it in. Christmas time? Yeah. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's, I have no memory of this.

Andy would wear, like, a shirt, too, like a, or a jacket, say in a jacket. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we've done the, it's adorable. Yeah, that's, yeah, I mean, that's most of what there is to say. Candy cane, it's great, delightful. There's a big candy cane, too. Yeah, yeah, great. So that's wonderful.

But the base, the base model is what we're talking about here, which, you know, if you were being, if we were being clinical, maybe we'd call the episode King Kong Encounter. That's probably technically what this is. But in my head, it's just King Kong, the robot. Or if you want to go nuts, King Kong, the robot that caught on fire. But that's a whole other story. We'll get to that part of the story. Let me just pump up the energy with a clip of how they advertised this when it was brand new on the tour in 1986.

Kong flicked. People really look scared. Kong Fusion. Kong Fronation. King Kong lives at the Universal Studios Tour. People are terrified. It is a scary commercial. Yeah, that's really terrifying.

That is so far from what Disney would have done at the time. And it's really them. carving out their own brand. It's very different. This is where the danger is. This is where you go into rooms where you feel flames and that it smells bad

because of how often the flames are going off. You're going to face smells at Universal Studios. They'd never give you at Disney. This is not a joke, but for years after working there, I had reoccurring nightmares about King Kong.

It was never that King Kong. It was always like some new ride where it's like, more immersive or it's like a splash mountain hybrid with king kong but like the king kong robot was always in the dream and it was terrifying and you know i uh worked out in therapy you know my dad is six four he's uh he at his biggest he was 300 pounds as a kid he was imposing figure he's very hairy so my god yes father did you actually make you sincerely make that connection i really did i really did that's wild so facing your fears as a child

and doing this as a job was some weird, wow, which gave you the fuel to give it your all every day because you were grappling with your own father. Stop yelling, dad! Did your therapist go like, you know, and you've got to remember the King Kong on the tram, that gave him the confidence for the Florida Park, you know? That's true.

Lou Wasserman, Chase, not your therapist, just rattling off the names. And you realize you're in another nightmare, like a podcast, a ride inspired nightmare. No, that's what we're doing here. They'll start talking. Lou Wasserman keeps coming up in my dreams. I, no. Well, you know, reminiscent of your dad, it sounds like.

But this guy's still a little bit bigger because he was 30 feet tall. He was seven tons. And the entire 660 pounds of fur it took to put the great beast together. I mean, it's just, without intellectualizing it too much, it's just such a, it's an incredible feat. It is, could this be at the time, put yourself in 1986, is this the coolest single thing you can see in a theme park anywhere? Like, obviously, Disneyland's great at that point. There's tons to do at Disneyland, but there's nothing quite of that scale and scope. Scale, yeah, no, I don't, yeah, probably.

I can't think of another thing that's just so wildly impressive like that. Yeah, yeah. And that is scary. Maybe not as scary as the ad, but maybe, depending. Yeah, I was scared of it. That was, yeah, I feel that did it justice. That did not overhype it at all. That really is what it was like.

And it looks so good on camera, by the way. I found there's kind of a weird thing going on with theme parks today where people bring really nice cameras, which we all have access to. And then if you do one bump above the phone and even nicer, you can, basically, I think you can make theme park attractions look. cooler in videos than they do in person. I keep finding this. Yeah. Where like, you know,

even, like, honestly, parts of Epic Universe. I'm like, that doesn't look that good. But it kind of on camera, like, looks, like, it's almost like Instagramable theme park destinations as opposed to this, which is just so visceral. Yeah. That kind of an unaffect. I'm granted shot on nice film. Yeah. But like,

then you got there and it kind of was that too. Like some of those shots would be fine in like a movie of its era. Yeah. Yeah. Like you would be like, oh, yeah, That's the King Kong in a movie from the 80s. Yeah, yeah. And without jumping around too much, but maybe a quick nod to that it was featured in a movie of the 80s.

Oh, yeah. The Wizard, not yet referenced in the series, but The Wizard, this movie that isn't entirely a run-around-the-bac-lot movie like Big Fat Liar, but the third act is it becomes a, like, kids loose and other kids want them and a young Toby McGuire is in a group of little bullies chasing. Oh, Toby McGuire, from the Good German. From the Good German. We were saying a movie of our time of 2006.

That's something like, oh, filming today, the Good German, and I don't really know what the, I guess now I know that, Toby McGuire. Toby McGuire, Kay Planchett, George Clooney. I have not seen this movie. But I've seen the poster. But your favorite thing is to bring up movies you haven't seen. But you're oddly fascinated by.

That's right, yeah. It's just another way of a little stinker. It's the other thing, Mike, like, Not in the nasty way, and you like, yeah. It's not like the old days. You're saying he used to go a little crazier than saying the names of movies. I'm saying that he does not seen. I am saying there was a little wilder back in the day.

You get a language. Club three, make people go behind a couple of velvet ropes and then starts telling us some of the real deal. Yeah, I'll tell, I'll really, I'll reveal all. You know what, if we get to 10,000 patrons, I'll reveal all. Great, great. So now it's on the listener to like, shit, I've got to ask a thousand friends

to sign up first. Yep, that's right. And then after one episode of that, it immediately falls back to 4,000 days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had a pretty good plummet. Massive plummet. That's okay. Okay, where were we?

That it looks like, oh, the wizard. Have you seen the wizard? Yes, long time ago. That's the one preparation I did for today is I already watched the wizard. Oh, I hadn't seen it as a kid. So as a kid, I remember it being like, super fun movie about skateboarding and video games and King Kong.

It is depressing. It's a movie about child abuse. Nothing fun happens until the King Kong. Isn't it sort of like it's kind of like the kids sort of has autism, but they don't really say that word because there's not awareness of that. And there's a lot of hitchhiking across the country. Yeah. Children hitchhiking.

It's weird. Children in peril alone. It's really strange by today's standards. The majority of it, like that first hour is like utter misery. Yeah. And then it gets to like, oh, we're on the lot. We're next to Kinkong. And then the first, it's the reveal of Super Mario Bros. 3. Yes.

That's the famous thing. Yeah. And it bugs me because the girls like, oh, get the magic flute. Get the magic flute. Then you'll warp. How could you know this? This is the reveal of Mario 3. Oh, we should have known about the flute.

And no power subscriber. Oh, yeah, maybe. Yeah, yeah. Well, no, because this was supposed to be the reveal. Like, nobody had even heard of Mario's. There are three contestant. one, two, three. So I have for you, Super Mario, three.

Wow. So, yeah. Jeez. And, yeah, but the King Kong, it does get fun again. And where the video game contest is taking place is directly beneath King Kong in this, in this universe. Yeah, yeah, in the basement. Yeah. That's weird.

Really, do they go straight down from? The physics makes no sense. So they go out of the video game place and they get on the tour. And then they go through King Kong and then they get off the at King Kong, go down, which is cool because you do see some like behind the scenes of King Kong. You see the base of King Kong. Yeah, the weird wireframe, which is super cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and then they're being chased by the bad guy.

And, yeah, they end up like dropping down right into the video game contest at the very last second. That's so stupid. I don't know if that was the, but yeah. But we played that, we did play the clip, the sit down and have fun, damn it. Yes, I was wondering if that's what that's from because there's a few. weird scenes that like because we had a clip of tram cameos

and like some were people jumping out I think there's one where people are jumping out of the tram into the Red Sea and that's from I think the movie the nude bomb of the Don Adams movie

and I was trying to remember what the guy yelling then so that's wizard is that and that's still like red coat he's in like a red coat in that that always got a big reaction getting to shit like because they know like

I'm on the tour. This guy seems nice. He can't yell at me to sit down and have fun, damn it. It's like that they'd even give that to you as an option of what could happen if I went insane today. That always worked really well. I'm glad the

Wizard got some love during this series, at least the more fun third act. A lot of those, yeah, a lot of those kids moved, like when they were like, well, what are kids like in the 80s? They're like, yeah, skateboarding, video games, and adventures and stuff. And, like,

you rewatch Goonies or you rewatch parts of ET and go like, oh, this is the bleakest thing I've ever seen that the men in hazmat suits and the FBI agents like strip the boy down and put an oxygen mask on and I was a kid, I was just terrified of this stuff. Yeah, and then you grow up and you realize that that scene is actually scarier as an adult now. Yeah. Actually, it's here as a kid, I thought it was. scary. Now I've realized it remains one of the scariest scenes ever filmed for any reason. Oh, yeah. The federal government can do even worse to you. You're an adult. It's so, yeah, that's all, like, I'm in the mood for E.T. I'm in the mood for 40 minutes of E.T.

And then not seeing him in a ditch. That is, ugh. That is so, so miserable. That's why they need to do that second. Like Lucy, old Lucy. That's how they put you on some of those lists. If they hear someone say, like, I want to watch his sick E.T. It's like, we got to keep it on this sicko. It's looking at gray E.T. That's why they need to do the Green Planet book is to give us an E.T. that we can just watch as a little breezy film.

The kids will like all the way through. It's conflict-free. That's just a blast. Not nocturnal fears, the other ones that get made. The treatment. Oh, yeah. That one, I think, would be just as dark. An E.T. horror film.

The book by William Cotswinkle. We know it. We know, of course. Nocturnal fears. We love it. I was trying to explain. Jade. I was trying to figure out a unified field theory of the opposite of our guys, our eccentric, insane millionaires, is the positive version just a name. Like all these wonderful names, William Cotswinkle, Lou Wasserman, Jay Stein. Are you saying a name? A name? I'm saying, just because you like saying Lou Wasserman, you're skipping him to the list of people we like.

He's a name. Now he's a name. William Cotswinkle we have affection for because he created. created botanicus. Yes. So, you need to sell it harder on Lou Wasserman. You is a big Wasserman head. Well, Carl Lemley gets all this credit. He's Lou Wasserman. In the Sam Genaway books, I was looking up King Kong in the Universal v.

Disney book. And Lou Wasserman gets so much credit for like, go bigger, go bigger. You need to make me love him. Make me love Lou. I, well, saw a news story that said both. organized labor and management like Lou, he was a peacemaker. That's good.

That's positive. We don't have a lot of that in Hollywood these days. That's true. We don't have a lot of that. It's true. Yeah, yeah. So you're saying, though, you want to name for the people we like? No, no.

I'm not saying a name. I'm saying names. Names are the inverse of guys. Names are good. Guys are bad. So wait a minute. Hold on a second. So the title of guys, am I wrong here that I'm confused?

So guys are, oh, we talk about whatever, Tillman Fertita or whatever. Yes. He falls under the category of names. But under the names, that's just like the big ways. That's just when there's a name that you like to say who is not a bad person. But it's not even positive is what you're saying. No, it is positive. It's like Tony Baxter.

He's a name. He's not a guy. He's a guy who made a bunch of stuff we like. Yes, the creators are the names. The eccentric psychos are guys. Names, though, would just be like we like saying the sound of a person's name or like it's in the credits of something or, you know what I mean? Like, it feels like there should be a distinction between just saying, like, oh, we'd like saying Wasserman or something. See, that's why I'm still working on this theory because it's a theory now?

It's a theory. Isn't it more of a class of a single of a unified field theory? Yeah, I don't, it's not perfect yet. Is it like, oh, okay, are you putting Lou Wasserman on a law? level of a Marty Sklar. Like that, does that make sense? No, I'm not. Well, he's boring. Not until you make me love Lou more.

But like here's an, okay, here's an example. So there might be a third clash. Gary Morton, Lucille Ball's second husband is a name. I just like saying that name. I want to talk about the monkey, you guys. All right, let's go back with it. I told you, he wasn't done. We barely talked about the monkey.

This is amazing. He guns. The biggest name. He's 30 feet tall. He costs $6.5 million. I'm just trying to help Jason work this out. What are you about to say? No, I'm just so happy because I hear you guys on the podcast.

And I'm like, I'm like, I understand what you're saying, Jason. I understand what you're saying, Mike. Like, I wish I was in the room. And now I'm in the room. And I don't want to say anything because I love it so much. Well, feel free to say anything. I don't know why. Usually we're on better behavior with guests.

I apologize. This is interesting. I didn't even consider this idea that there was a third. classification. I think there's a third classification. That's where there's the people that we really like talking about because of the accomplishment. There's people we just like knowing the name of.

I think there's a, I think there's at least three. Wow. This is so exciting. It is. You better tell Jane. You got to tell Jane. I got to tell my wife.

The Unified field theory. I tell my beloved wife everything. I'm woke. I tell my wife everything. He's evolved. He used to not tell wives anything. I'm evolved. Jason,

I declared something. He would never tell his wife anything. 20 years ago. The nasty stuff stays in my nasty little brain. All right, well, we've got a breakthrough here, which is good. You're here for the moment when we've changed. We know there's three categories, so that's exciting. Eight years in, we know now.

Look, King Kong just inspired me because I think, like, I think I was just feeling some of the energy, maybe. They felt back in the late 80s where, like, this King Kong is awesome. Spielberg said this is awesome like we can go big

we can go even bigger we can have a whole park if we can do this lit him up he knew suddenly what what the universal

theme park mechanism was capable of actually see now I feel lame starting to read things after all that

now you're honest you're always wanting to get back to it and now I'm like okay so no I want to the rights

RKO had the rights and then after I was like, Gary Morton, you can't go back. I was just the energy that I felt of trying to get off of Gary Morton. That was the biggest jolt I've gotten all day. That got me, getting the conversation to go away from Gary Morton got me as excited as I used to be yelling at King Kong. You're the new, I'm going to start having David Dad-esque dreams where I'm yelling at a giant Mike who's going, Gary Morton, Barbara Eden, references. you couldn't care about less

references your own father shouldn't care of names I've heard of Bernie bros but now we've got Morton Michael's on Martin Michael That sounds like a talk show host Martin Michael Martin Michael Jr.

Morton Michaels Well read those facts God I'm screwed now I'm excited for the facts I've got facts too look you guys want to go back and forth with facts

you read one and reason why. Fact off. I know. That's more of a dynamic way to do it. He's the Tour God master. I want to let him talk.

That's true. Well, you know, after the in the 1970s, Universal was vying to make a film out of King Kong, but it turns out the Paramount and producer Dino de Laurentis were as well. And they ended up with the film rights

from RKO, but as a consolation prize, Universal got the theme park rights. And that let Jay Stein, a name, I guess, who was running the theme park operas. He knew that King Kong was something. We can build off of King Kong. There wasn't a lot of IP on the tour at this point.

We had Jaws, but we got to go bigger and better than Jaws. He believed that King Kong could really put him on the map in a big way. So he had people start to flesh out, what would a King Kong attraction be? And they figured out a whole thing where you sat in a theater, you just sat and at a distance watched King Kong, far away do something to people who aren't you and Jay Stein said no

it needs to happen to the guest King Kong needs to be in their face you are part of it you are screaming like these scared people in the commercial ended up being and that's when it became an attraction on the tour an attraction of the tour where you not only get to bring up a mic thing intimacy that's unbelievable intimacy

you just stay they really pull you up and you just stare at that character for a long time. Yes, you get a good amount of time. Yeah, yeah. And you smell his breath. What could be more intimate than that? You got to love this.

Finding out what a famous character's breath smells like. That is the ultimate intimacy, yeah. Yeah, you don't even, I don't think there's any other character in the history of theme parks. Back in the day, used to know what Jason's nasty little breath smell like. And now because he tells his wife everything, you don't get to go near. He doesn't tell me everything anymore. You don't know what his breath smells like lately.

That's what this is about. He doesn't tell me everything. anymore. He wants to be the one that you tell everything to. Don't you see? He's putting his heart on the line. He didn't tell me those name, that name theory before. It was only for Jane.

That's right. Mike wants first dibs on Jason observations. Hey, I sent a first look deal with him 20 years ago. He has to bring all of his ideas to me first. Mike wasn't. He's not only getting a episode. He's getting the most passionate sincere in the belly of the beast.

Thanks for him so much. Now the person I'm closest to reminds me to wash my face. moisturized. Mike didn't do that. Right, but I do suggest you floss. Yes, and I am. I am on the flossing line. Mike still has a pseudo-parental role. That's right. So I still have part

as partly there. I can't be trusted to my, I can't be left of my own devices. Well, you know it would be, you know, it would be tough floss and King Kong's teeth. You know what? Here we go. And there's 32 of them. They should have. Molded brilliantly out of plastic by Bob Gerr. Name? Oh, Bob Gerr. Yes. Bob Gur is in the

picture. Bob Ger did this. A guy It's why we associate so much with Disney. He's Mr. Disney and Mr. Vehicles as well. Right. And yet, so it's so odd that this is, like, that he brought this character to life and for not the, like it feels wrong, you know, like a, like a, it's like, uh, Jordan playing on the wizards.

Do that happen? Right. It doesn't, yeah. It's the wrong type of robot or machine, I should say at the wrong place. And yet it's so right. And it's so perfect. It couldn't be more right. He feels like a guy who like, if he had worked somewhere else, like, and,

they were like, hey, like in the government, they were like, Bob build a time machine, he could have figured it out. Yeah. He just seems like he could do anything. Yeah, that weird Reagan idea, the Star Wars defense system. Yes, missile, which is back. I mean, the big dome, Jason, Jason. Golden Dome, yes.

I feel like that would light you up. Donald Trump's Golden Dume. Yeah, Bob Gurr is working on Donald Trump's Golden Dome. Oh, whatever you think, sir. It's not political to me. Yeah, I just like building stuff. Clang, clang, clang, clang, I'll have it done in a month. King Kong's part of it somehow

No he figured this out and this is like You know when you when it's that big And this is still 1986 so I think so computers are part of it But it's still very rudimentary Yeah so it still is Figuring out how to manipulate just big old moves You know that this big blunt thing can do It's 29 movements all told which sounds like very little

But when sort of randomized and put together it's a ton because we remember we saw everything this guy was capable of and there's so much going on his tongue flaps the tongue moves separate I the arms the arms move but the arms are just attached to the wires so like that that was I saw something saying that was like kind of a freebie as far as the animatronics people because they the it's easy to move the wires and then you just attach the arms to the wires and then it looks like he's shaking it despite the fact of those arms aren't really doing anything. Right.

So they, like, got away. It's still, like, theatrical cleverness, basically. Like, getting around, this having to be the most complex thing ever built in all of time. Right. It feels like the way Muppets would have, like, arms. Sometimes it would be human arms, but sometimes they would have, like, a little stick. Sometimes. Oh, yeah.

But sometimes they just, they just wave around of their own volition. Yeah. You're mixing, like, you're mixing things. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. My favorite gir thing is that he would sometimes himself and maybe invite guests. to ride in the head.

He could get inside it and just sit in it and it would shake around. That's like, and he's in his head. That's like Bob Gur and the Megasort. For Power Rangers. Oh, yeah, yeah, totally.

Powering the mechanism from inside. They'd all join into the Megasor's head when they would combine their different zords and then they would control the big megazard from the head. The idea that Bob Guror could maybe walk along around the streets of L.A. This is a TV show.

I was going to say Bob Gur probably has a megazort somewhere You certainly can build it I'll build a one We've heard he's a helicopter enthusiast It is old You see he's flying now I think I thought that was what

From one of those breakfast club Events Oh not the one I was That's the one time I've been to breakfast club He said like yeah he's really into helicopters Yeah I don't know I don't recall him saying He was having a hard time hearing all of the

silly songs and stuff that people like he was being inducted into the breakfast club at a L.A. Burbank yeah it's kind of an L.A. Elks clubs. Yeah but it's like very dorky in a I'm not saying that a negative way like a very

it's not like where men go to drink it's like we're a bunch of like people that love kitsy stuff and singing songs go and now we're nasty 2006 Jason goes we're woke 2025 Jason goes yes it's a woker it's more for woke Jason yeah than old Jason.

Jason, old Jason would have been a Shriner, a friar. Yeah, join the actual adventures club in Los Angeles. Yeah, and there would be a lot of baudiness there, but not the breakfast. Well, there's still a little dicey. Women can come as guests, but can they be a member? Like, Breakfast Club welcomes all. Yeah, welcomes all, correct. Yeah, so Bob was there, yeah, and I don't recall any helicopter talk, but I guess it wouldn't

surprise me if he's, like, flying in helicopters. And he's in his early 90s? Let's do some, let's do some helicopter talk. by going into the what actually occurs in the attraction. And David, I'm sure you have this committed to memory. I'm sure you know the music queue. You know everything that is said. And I'm so glad that thanks to the great YouTube channel,

Cow missing, that we are able to. Cow missing is really powering the series. But that we can watch the full frame video of what, just to set the scene. I was going through the book here. I was going through the book. And you would, like, was this how you would do? There's a setup about like, I can't tell you what's going on inside this soundstage.

It's a top secret production, but it does involve one of Hollywood's biggest stars. I was by the book on that setup. Yeah, I went off script during the Confrontation, but I kind of like that setup. Yeah, yeah. What was your, I feel like you had something different because you... God, I don't remember. I don't know if I did anything. I mean, sometimes laying into that cheese is.

kind of a good thing. You were so great because you, you were always yourself. Like, you weren't this tour guidey, like, oh, if you look over here. Like, I don't know if you've shared this on the show, but you were the Valid Victorian of our class. You know, I haven't said it in the series, and I didn't want to bring it up myself, but I get, you know, if somebody else is. So they had a, I suppose. When would they determine the valid? There was a, there was a graduation party. Yeah. And a rooftop in West Hollywood. Yes. We walked from my apartment on Melrose. Were you there? I don't know if you were there. I had this, I had this apartment on Melrose where we had a ski ball machine, a pinball machine, a Miss Pac-Man. Oh, man. We would

have parties. You had the big apartment. We had, yeah, it was a two-bedroom. The, the carpet was white when we moved in. It was black with white spots and we moved out. And somehow I had the hoodspots to demand our security deposit back. It's worth a shot. So we started there and we walked up to, I believe it was like hamburger Marys? Was it? Is that? Or it was some around there, yeah. Some bar in West Hollywood.

And, yeah. It was all of us, proud to have graduated and made it. And then the special treat was that who should walk up but whoopi Goldberg or at least a Whoopi Goldberg impersonator who they paid to just have and mill around all night.

So you're just like walking around with a there's just a person who looks like Whoopi Goldberg at the party Do I talk to her? What do I? What are the rules of this? What happens? Why is this a good thing

to have at a party? That's bizarre. That was so bizarre. Yeah, really strange. I didn't know what that was Did she do the vote? Did she talk? Nope.

She was just there? Nope. I think I may have spoken to her and realized she didn't sound sound anything like Whoopi Goldberg. Wow. Just a physically resembling Wuppie Culper and she just waived

and maybe gave us our diplomas. Wow. Is that, do they do that every year with a different like, slightly related celebrity? Maybe they were motivated just this being the big whoopee arrival year. Oh, maybe. Yeah, yeah. We'll put in the

money for a memory that'll last a lifetime. That is strange. Like, was it the Apollo 13 crew look like one year? Like all three the main cast. Oh, no, they just brought the card word stand. They just brought the ball. That would make a lot more sense. Yeah. They just had the standee. But, no, thank you for recalling that I was a

valedictorian. And I, you know what? I was very proud of is that, like, yeah, I studied and stuff, but, like, I felt like a lot of it I just kind of had. Yeah. I just kind of remembered, because that was just based on, that was like a movie trivia test. That was no, like, this was not some judge of your character or of the, like, you know, how do you initiate the exit protocols if there's an emergency during earthquake?

No, no, no, nothing important. That was just like. It was just all performance based. Yeah. And, yeah, you were the Bellevictorian and, yeah, everyone, I mean, I don't want to gush too much. But you mentioned in the last episode that some girl came up, sorry, some woman, some female, not the Whoopi Goldberg. My random smooch.

Your random, everyone wanted to smooch you, Scott. You think so? Everyone wanted to run up and give you a smooch. Oh, man. Everyone wanted to give you smooches. Look, if you want to do one on the way out the door. Do it on the camera. Do it on the mic.

I was right next to the mic. Wow. This is the rock. Hey, you know, I was a rock star. I was 20 and little and, you know, trying to pose cute in photos that aren't cute remotely. Was this like, you're like, was he like Ferris Bueller? Like, what was the vibe? Yeah, I'd say that's a fair comparison.

Yeah. Wow. Yeah, we expected him to jump off and start leading a band down the New York Street. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, we should say when I led the giant twisted shouts sing along. Whoopi, near turn, go. On to Santa Monica Boulevard. Everybody's doing flips.

They didn't know they could do. Whoa. Okay, but so you set up biggest star in Hollywood, and then you pull into a room that is a little city scene contained inside a soundstage, and where conveniently there's a bunch of TVs playing a news report, and thank God all of the TVs are facing the windows. There was some literally in the windows, this allowing us all to watch what's happening and see the news anchor Roland Smith. Here's this.

Late word just in. The path of destruction continues east, causing thousands to flee their homes. Police admit that they are powerless to stop the enraged beast. Military units are rushing to the scene. The beast was last cited near the 200 block of Old Fulton Avenue. It also, like, this, it's so familiar to me. I know that music cue. I just remember the feeling and you're getting the smell and, like, and there's probably

like a fire hydrant gushing. And the only thing that feels wrong to me as we're playing it is that it's supposed to be like echoing. That's the part that's missing. That it's echoing because it's playing off for 20 TVs and it's in a big soundstage space. But other than that, it just, don't you just, oh, it's so, I'm so glad this clip exists just on its own. I'll go to live coverage on the scene with our helicopter reporter Kelly King, Kelly.

We're now hovering. above the wreckage of a crushed L train. The helicopter beside us is searching for, wait, there's a tramload of people down there. Let me stop it to say a couple things. Kelly King, when this was a big one for me is like starting to, I didn't have it memorized or anything, but I did, I loved it as a kid. And then like starting to work that, oh my God, I'm going to get to work here. And it is, it's so 80s.

It is so locked in 1986. The graphics, her hair, she's got like kind of a cravat sort of thing. and a blazer, I was just this fucking, like, I get to take a trip to 1986 at work every day, although I've since done the math that it's the same amount of years now, like, it's been 20 years since we did this job, and that's the amount of time it was from then to this being filmed. Wow, I feel old. Isn't that strange?

Yeah, that's wild. Nothing feels, though, as ancient as Kelly King. Yeah. Things from 2006 do not feel like so fully. a different era, unless I'm just, I'm blind to it or something. There's probably some 2006 media, the Rip Ride Rocket logos. Yeah, certain things, things that, yeah, yeah, well, Studio 60, obviously. Studio 60s.

Yeah, pretty, pre-HD things. Las Vegas. Las Vegas, yeah, I hate to say it, but Las Vegas is aged, not the best. But so, other thing to say about this, Tris McNeil, not Tris McNeil acting on camera, but the voice of Tris McNeil dubbing over whoever did it previously. Wow. Did you see on the Wikipedia page about that, it gives her credit for popularizing the ride because the first voice was so terrible.

In two places on the Wikipedia page, it says Tris McNeil is solely responsible for the success of King Kong. Some editorializing from the McNeil family. I could only surmise. I mean, it's, look, I might give a little more credit to the giant ape animatronic. However, it is an excellent performance. It is fantastic. It is, like, seared in my brain. Wait, there's a tramload of people down there.

Here, I'll finish it out. We've got to go down and warn them. Attention people on the tram. You are in danger. Repeat, you are. No, we have to go down and help them. Behind us, where? I don't see them.

No, where? Oh, my God. And right then, her helicopter descends and explodes right in front of you. Something incredible has happened in this first room before you have even seen the Great Beast. I never got tired of this. I get to, like, if you're ever feeling today, like, what would you do at work today? Oh, I watched a helicopter explode three times. Like, it's so, it was so great.

There was no diminishing returns. No. No. Other things sometimes, this never. I was always so excited. And then the excitement of like, because every time, I think I was saying this with Drew, there's always not just a few, but a significant amount of people you're looking at who have never done this before. And they didn't understand your tease about the biggest star in Hollywood. And they don't know what's coming. And so you start going around that bend and people start to see it and you're building the enthusiasm. And then you get to watch everybody light up, be excited, be scared. The jolt of that, that was not like it's Jungle Cruise and everybody's reciting the jokes. Like, it was new every time. It really was. Yeah. I feel lucky that I got to see it because it's 2008.

So it's a year after I moved to L.A. I don't remember how many times I saw it, but I had an annual pass. So I'm sure I saw it like a couple, at least a couple. Yeah. But every time we turn the corner, I get like a little even like nervous too because of the scope of it. Yeah. And I wonder if it had lasted long. longer if I would, that would have gone completely away, but I'd be like, just so big.

It is kind of scary to me. And I hadn't been to Disneyland a thousand times like I have been now, or universal a thousand times, but I wonder if it would have still remained, like, oh, gosh, this helicopter. The helicopter would, like, freak me out. Yeah. And then seeing Kong, Kong is so giant. I don't really have a big thing, with, like, big things in rooms.

All right. But it is, but it never reflected in me with this. It's a little big, yeah. Yeah. I still love seeing him every time It really did like The tour scared me so much as a kid Like obviously I mean you know

I was scared of a zillion things And scared of coasters and stuff But mostly things that Disney would not And the tram tour would But so desperate was I to have the information I wanted to hear the little thing About how they turned courthouse square From a little lawn into a lake

I like I will endure Like that was so enticing to me To hear the trivia that I will get brave Because I am going to be scared of Kong And Earthquake and Jaws I will be scared of every single one of them, but I will also learn. I will see the backdrop from the Truman Show.

I will get everything. I probably was still scared when I was 13 then. Probably still scared me. Was that Falls Lake when he walks into the door at the end? Indeed. Yeah, yeah, one of my favorite zones. I love Falls Lake. I, uh, anyways, uh, yeah, what else about just this experience?

Well, I guess this guy, I guess this gets us to the beast. This get, now we are, now we're in front. of him now you get to reveal them uh what would you do what was your how'd you tackle it what was your approach i think i played it straight for the most part where we're you know again like i was going for the academy award like like no kinga it was it was it was it wasn't so much you know i didn't always plan things out didn't think it out i was just screaming for my life with the rest of the tour for the most part um there were some days where i felt a little jokey and i think I had a joke about, you know, he's after Whoopi Goldberg because of that crack about

not having him in the movies and... Oh, yeah, yeah. One of her videos, she says something about like less movies with the giant monkeys, more movies with me. Oh, that's a good little tiddy. I tied it back to that. He's here. She's not here.

That was a pre-tape. So, yeah, it just kind of depended on what kind of mood I was in. But for the most part, nine out of ten times, it was just screaming for my life. I'm terrified with the guest. You know, there's a little kids crying in front of me. I don't give them a little wink. I'm like, no, we're going to die. Don't make him feel okay.

No. And everything is not going to be okay. Can I ask how you guys handled the helicopter exploding? Because I watched a video where someone went, just ignore the exploding helicopter next year. Like they were being sarcastic about it. I never did sarcasm. I would do sarcasm on the tour itself,

but in those attraction areas, Jaws and King Kong, I always played it as if, like, we are living in this moment. And this is the way to do it. That's the way I prefer it, yeah. Now, I would do the under, this is kind of an undercut that they would recommend in Jaws, but I would still do it with fear in my voice. Like, I would keep the intensity because you just watched a diver get devoured and blood is gushing in the lake and you'd move forward a little bit at that point.

so I try to keep it in the fearful zone and just say like, okay, we need to hide. We need to get somewhere safe. Okay, I think if we just duck behind these highly flammable gas tanks, I think this will provide a wall of safety for us. Always gets a lay-out. But not the flippant, like, not like throwing it away.

If the tour guide names the diver, like, and we've got Billy out there. Billy, how's it going in Amity Island today? Yeah, yeah. And then he gets eaten. I would always name the driver. Yeah. Did he have a set name?

I don't know if I made it up or if it was in the script, but I would always call him George. Because that's how I remembered it as a kid. That's what was in my head. I feel like he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the joke about George always had guts and there they are. But I would play that as if, like, I am making a joke, like to cover up for the fact that I am terrified. Oh, sure.

So, yeah, yeah, rather than, okay, okay. Like motivation. I like that, yeah. You're a player in this. We all got to act. We all got to, like, play a part. You know, it was one of my other favorite kind of, like, tour guidey jokes was saying something

about, like, splash zones and that you might get wet. But don't worry, you will only get wet if you were sitting in a blue seat. So as long as you were, and then there's the dawn of realization that everyone is in a blue seat. Yeah, yeah. Good classic. Some of these, sometimes the blue book delivered. Did either you guys or anyone you knew,

did they ever, was there ever like a, I'm going to take a big, wild, like, 180 on my take today. Like, I'm going to play it like it's my first day. Like, did you ever like try something very experimental with your delivery? Or was it pretty much the same when you would just do little variations in it? Does that make sense?

Well, maybe this is a time. I wasn't sure when to bring it up, but this might be a good time. You know, we're going long. We're talking about a lot here, but I feel like maybe in response to that question, I have to bring up my friend Dale. Dale is, let me show you a picture of Dale. Here's

Dale doing the tour. Dale was an alter ego that I would do once in a while if I was feeling bored. I didn't actually. Did I or did you brought up before? I don't know if I had brought up Dale before. I had almost forgotten about this. Do you recall this? I went on a Dale tour.

Oh, wow. Wow. I for sure went on a Dale. Oh, I'm glad I got you on a Dale. Wow. So basically what I just showed everyone in the room is that this is me in a mustache. Wow. And maybe aviators that I wouldn't normally wear.

and Dale was just as opposed to we've been doing a lot of the like entertainment capital of LA and you know we're filming a lot on the lot here today like you're kind of that's the standard clip but Dale is a mustachioed guy and even though I was doing this at 21 this was meant to be maybe like a person in his 60s or so and Dale was just kind of a daughtering guy just a guy who had nowhere to be any sentence he was saying no rush whatsoever if you're So in something like this So it would be It would be all the same stuff

But it would take twice as long And also like get me out Of having to do I'd get to skip entire things Because I'm talking for so long Wow So like like like well folks There he is

King Kong himself On a on quite the rampage Kind of Reminds me of my ex-wife You laugh But it wasn't a joke to me The marriage was Frots with

difficulties and it wasn't what I thought I was it wasn't the bargain I thought I was getting into but here where I am rambling it you should focus on focus on the monkey because that's it's what you're here for but it's it's hard to remove personal feeling I just like whatever I just go on and on your supervisors like Dale nobody ever knew about Dale okay because what I would do is I'd be on deck I'd be waiting to go out and I would turn my back to the to the dispatch window and I'd kind of planted. I'd kind of put that spirit gum on right before. So they, so, and there's, because there'd never, there would never be a point where they'd see my face again. So I would, I would truly, like, hide the mustache and then get on.

And then only, like, if I think Aaron came one time, David, you came once. And, and one thing I do remember is that one time we, we started going and a driver caught what I was doing. And he turned to me and kind of smirked. And he gave me, like, a, uh, I'm looking, I'm watching you fucker kind of like, he just like, not in a way. where he was going to report me or something. But what he was communicating was like, don't drop it. We got an hour.

You need to do this for the entire time. And I would. This was the cure for boredom. I fucking loved being Dale. I would get lost in Dale. Oh, my God. Young Scott working on his S&L cameras. Yeah, yeah.

That would be fun. Because that's why I think I asked the question. As you're talking about all this, I go, you know what would be fun is like having five personas or something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was your thought as well. You would have been fucking great at this. You would have, I think you would have discovered those things.

The things that keep it alive for you. And my favorite Dale thing that ever happened was that one time we were just next to a hillside and there were just a bunch of like beautiful deer roving through the hill. That would happen every once in a while and everybody would go nuts because like truly like perfect specimen. And people would forget that it's, you know, or think they're animatronics, but forget you're up in the hill. So I had to respond to that while in the Dale character. And I said, well, look at that. Wow, a couple of big beautiful bucks. Boy, you know, I believe I shot and killed one of his brothers this weekend.

But, man, I'll have to keep Dale in the mix. That was Aaron's what I said. We're doing the trim. she's like just talk about Dale make sure you talk about Dale I miss Dale maybe I'll become Dale kind of as a that's as you grow older I'll just be him for real that'll be

Madonna would take on different personas and Bono yes exactly no no no we need all the great artists yeah Dale is your McFistro yeah 20th century in a notcho Madonna and Bondo

if you only watch VH1 yeah that sounds right I will try to recall what Dale would have said about different events, but... I don't want to put you on the spot, but for the live show, are you Scott or are you Dave? Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Well, this is an interesting, I mean, I think, you know, what I've billed is that it will be a Scott show, but maybe, uh, maybe old Dale is going to have to be his appearance. You might make it appear out. Need the back tour of Dale. If I can pry myself away for my, uh, day-to-day duties, a lot of judge shows to watch. What's in the last 20 years?

Yeah, I think he's got a lot of stories. I'll catch up on, oh, soldering mostly, alphabetizing paint cans. I've got a lot that they don't even make anymore. Some of this overlap with Jason's dialogue on Podcast the Rite. You know, with all the various streamers out there, I just turn on antenna TV and I smile. Anyways, but so. So, yeah, what have we missed about actual experience?

Well, I think the one interesting thing is it kind of seemed to me almost like a parallel to dark universe in that there was 70s King Kong and that's really, that's not really what this is. It was its own thing. It was modern King Kong and that was modern King Kong. In a similar way of the dark universe, well, they're kind of classic monsters, but some of them are the children of the classic monsters. They're the class monster, but they're a little different. Yeah, it's not really the 30s one. It's not the 70s one that climbs the Twin Towers. Which, first build is Jeff Bridges.

Second build of favorite on this show, Charles Gruden. I never knew that. A new Jessica Lang. But is he a name? He's caught between name and... Well, now I'm thinking about the park creators and character actors are likely different nomenclatures. You may end up with 10 different title classifications. I got a pot of coffee on and pull out the whiteboard and start thinking out this.

Yeah, and then present the rules. Yeah, let me see. Oh, well, okay, let's talk banana breath a little bit. Oh, yeah. Do you recall, I feel like that banana breath was not always working. No, I think it was, yeah, yeah, it was very. Okay, okay. So you were lucky if you got banana breath.

It was a good day if you got the banana breath. Yeah. Did you enjoy it? Very much so. It was delightful. Sure. Sure. Does it, do you recall it, Mike, but you would fondness for banana runts. It is. It is really. I wish I could say it. I feel like I have, I feel like I have the memory of smelling it. I don't really remember if it's just from reading about banana breath for the last almost 20 years. I don't really remember it.

Oh, I can smell. I wrote it like a dozen times between 2006 and 2008. I don't actually have the memory of the smell in my head. I can't really remember. So, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I wrote it 12 times, but I definitely did it, you. So isn't that Sam Genoa book that the banana breath was pitched by a guy Peter Alexander, who's largely responsible for this whole thing? And then the guy Jay Stein got it in his head that he has bad breath. It's bad breath. Yes.

And Peter had to keep kind of steering the conversation, but, you know, his banana breath. And then eventually just by like asserting himself in meeting after meeting, they just forgot because what is bad breath, you know? Thank you, Peter. It would be bile, the scent of bile. You don't want to think about what he's, because he's eating people, right? I don't want to know what people turn, what people turn your birthday. Yeah, but he doesn't brush his teeth.

Like he doesn't brush his teeth. So it's got bile in his stomach. Are guerrillas carnivores? Great question. I feel like they are, but I could be wrong about that. Canonically, King Kong, because I've definitely talked about this on the show, that there's this other, there's this bad 80s King Kong that's really cheap. where King Kong lives that's about King Kong getting a heart transplant and then later he just like he just like sucks an alligator dry like you're like you're eating a rib also there just like throws it in a pile of other alligator bones right and they and they do this with it's just a guy in a suit holding up a lizard and the lizard is supposed to be a giant alligator it's one of my favorite stupid scenes I've ever seen so actual animals I can't tell you King Kong.

is a meat eater though. Yeah, yeah, living things, crocodiles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he, so, yeah, I would imagine, I'm trying to, like, I guess there's some, like, horror nights are, like, scary from houses, like, uh, that would have bad smells, but, like, and I guess there's fart smell on the, uh, minions, or there's, no, they also use banana smell on the, but then, well, they're, I'm thinking of something else on there was, there's some fart that happened on some ride. There is, there's a, it is a, it is.

Bill is a fart gun, but then it doesn't smell like farts. It smells like bananas. That is the truth. Okay, right. Yeah. Journey through imagination has fart smells, I believe. Is it a toilet? I think so.

I can't remember. The last time I went on this and smelled like farts. But yeah, I mean, I think probably after a while, they're like, oh, we don't really want to make it smell that bad. Do you have the quotes about how this got made? No. They, so what they ended up using was an impeller. the one Peter Alexander asked his

father a veteran aerospace engineer what might be able to blast a scent to a specific point yet not create so much that would linger through the rest of the building is what they say in that Ganaway book and he suggests an impeller so you got banana

juice and an impeller I really don't know what an impeller looks like or really does but it helps spread that extract that smell. The original thing they tried. It says they tried using a rotted, wet sheepskin coat under a fan

but that did not work. And I was like, I bet it didn't. They did try the bad breath before they went to banana. I guess so. Yeah, because that doesn't sound like it smells good. No. He went through, King Kong went through a field of

sheep, eight, ten of them. Now they're right, he doesn't know that they're just like between his Yeah, little, yeah, meat can get caught in close teeth. He needs those threaders that we're talking about, those flossing. You got to use the pickers. Yeah, yeah. It sounds like almost like it's like a wet dog smell or something.

Like, you. Yeah. Wet dog smell is not great. It's not the worst smell in the world, but it's not ideal. Just imagining that did work in someone like itemizing theme park expenses. Like, Operation says they need a new rotted wet sheepskin coat. Where do we get that? We promised them one a week.

Yeah. Need to shoot another sheep and head. Yeah, we thought it would last, it would be 12 a year, one a month, but it's, we might have to figure out something. Frankly, it doesn't stink anymore. Tie it into the Jurassic Park ride, have a dinosaur eating sheep. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, you're just slaughtering sheeps in the Jurassic Park ride. Well, all right, so they take the skin and they put it on King Gong, and then they take the bones and put it in the Jurassic Park Road. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a same. It's got workplaces, fire department, police, and a butcher for all the sheep and the sheepskin coat manufacturing. See, I wish I knew this at the time because that would have, I think in Dale Tours, I would have gone, boy, you just, do you smell that banana breath? That was something, huh?

Well, just a Hollywood illusion. What it actually was was an impeller. Now, an impeller is a driven rotor used to increase the pressure and flow of a fluid. You might be thinking it's like a turbine, but quite the opposite. Literally, it's the opposite of a turbine. All right, picture cars are there. Meanwhile, there's a weird 20-year-old just pump it in this in the fourth car. Getting character work.

Weirdest tour ever. Another thing that I liked from that book was I like this little story, which is that, and it's kind of never occurred to me, even though we did it so many times. hundreds of times, that, okay, you pull up and on the right side of the tram is King Kong. He's attacking the tram. On the left side is nothing. It's just a black wall.

Nothing is going on. And Peter Alexander said, that's not good. We should free up some budget. We should paint something, make like a New York mural or something. That's going to cost a little money. And he went to Jay Stein to see if they could free up some funds. And he shook his head, no, and said, if they're looking away from Kong, you have real problems. Yeah.

That's smart. Yeah. And you know what? He was great at Zinger's like that. There was no reason for there to be anything over there. I don't think I ever turn my head to the right. Yeah, yeah. On that ride.

Yeah, mission accomplished, yeah. I don't even think about that, honestly. In my memory, it was all just a big city I was in. Yeah, yeah, right. Like, I don't know my memory. Yeah, again, it's an incredible set to, somewhere in this, setting it on the Brooklyn Bridge was a key part of it. And you don't even think about where he are so much.

But the fact that you are on the bridge and that he's got the cables and that allows him to pull. the whole tram towards you. That's fucking nuts. Those trams are huge. That's a major... And so that every day, that thing has to be able to slide your entire car three feet. I mean, that physical effects definitely really work.

And it's also the first big thing that's happened on the tour. I mean, unless you didn't... Today, if you count the big Ted rotting away in the sun. But back then, this is the first major attraction. So it really makes the audience go, the tram can do this? That's crazy. Yeah, it's, yeah. I mean, again, I'm just repeating myself, but like, I would get a little like, oh, it's a little too. I guess I was, what, 20? What am I? How old am I? I was in my early 20s, though, but I was just like,

but it doesn't break for real this time. Yeah. Like, because it would feel pretty aggressive. Yeah. It's such a big thing that it doesn't, the tram I'm saying is such a big thing. It feels like it shouldn't be doing this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yes, it always felt like there was the possibility of danger and yet King Kong's demise came from reasons that had nothing

to do with it wasn't his own fault it wasn't it wasn't the fault of the fires in the attraction going on

which was maybe the first thought was like did something go wrong with all of the gasoline that's kept in the building there was that

summer that they put a giant cigarette in King Kong's mouth that's what's said in a blaze or a cigar As a big cigar, he was chomping on. And yeah, that lit it up.

Celebrating his son. He's a proud father. King Kong invites you all to have a smoke on him. Passing out a carton for... I remember the Seagram's ownership. I don't remember the Philip Morris ownership. No, we cannot tell the tale of King Kong without talking about the sad day of June 1st, 2008. I'll never forget it.

I literally remember exactly where I was on 6108. Well, let's hear it, 6108. Yeah. Do you have that memory? Like, do you know where you were? I do. Yeah. It is.

You know, I'm not saying it's on the same level as like JFK or 9-11, but there. For a tour guy. For me, personally. Like, I know, yeah, nobody died. It wasn't, you know, culturally, you get what I'm saying. But, yeah, do you remember exactly where you were? I do, because I was not working. I was off that day

and our buddy Perry Smith called me and said are you like I think you just started talking as if I knew what it was and I was like don't think I'm following you

and he said put on the news and I said what channel and he said all channels and I did and sure enough holy shit like unreal

that thing is still so gnarly if you look up the myriad of photos of it that exist that's just one of Like, forget about what's happening. It's just one of the craziest fires to, like, a recognizable site you've ever seen. So, you know, I was, I decided to be a hero in that moment.

I drove, I drove to the problem. I went right to the problem. Even though I wasn't working that day, I was like, I got to get in there and get out on that patio and make jokes about this. So I was a real, I was such a hero that day. I have to snark about that the, is occurring. Come on, everyone. Let's go get margaritas like Camacho's and make fun of this shortly carcinogenic smoke.

That is very close to us. Yes, I went and endangered my own life by being on a patio that's one of the closest places to the smoke. No, but I went in. I was like, I got to see it from the advantage point. And I took photos that I still have. I got a photo of me and Perry. What was up with you?

Were you working that day? I was not. I was off. I knew there was a fire. I lived North Hollywood, and I could see the smoke from where I was. but I meant specifically the moment I found out King Kong was dead Oh, see I'm not, yeah, maybe I didn't know

the extent of the fire, yeah, that I don't, okay, okay, oh, do tell. Okay, I remember the moment, because yeah, Perry, again, texted me. I was at house market in North Hollywood because, you know, I was broke as shit and I love sushi and... Broke of shit despite having this job? Wow.

That should be everything you need. Well, you're the ambassadors of Hollywood of the silver screen. Exactly. I don't understand. Got some bad news. So at House Market, sushi was half off at 9 p.m. So I would go and pick out the ones that I wanted and hide them in the back.

So I'd come back at 9 p.m. So I was in the middle of doing that. And I got a text. The old sushi scheme. And, yeah, I got a text from Perry, like, King Kong is dead. And it was, yeah, it was like my JFK. That's so scary getting that text. Yeah.

King Kong is dead. that is i was i'm sorry i'm looking i'm trying to figure out which job i had when i learned because i remember i was at work no wait it was a sunday oh was it yeah oh okay then i'm thinking of a different tragedy oh you're right maybe i'm thinking of the light on the hudson with sully saw that is what i'm thinking that is what i'm thinking that is what i'm thinking of that would that would that would work um that'd be a good tour attraction is like oh no it's the geese they're coming at us sir and And then Sully flying in like Vin Diesel on the helicopter.

Don't worry. I got this. People are just like that. A miracle on the tram tour today. Is that an helicopter, a weird sock? I must have missed it. Filmed that Falls Lake. Not the vent.

The vent didn't take place at Falls Lake, but the, yes, the Eastwood film. Right. Yeah, no, okay, you're right. Post-good German. Then I definitely know the apartment I was in when I saw that, but I definitely knew I was at sports crash when the plane crashed into the husband. That's what I remember. Okay. Now, do you remember, do you guys

have any stories about the first time that you all watched movie 43? Well, no. We were talking about straight to DVD American pie sequels, and we did go through a bunch of those one night. We did like scrub through a bunch. Yes,

I know. That was the joke. Is there one that stands out as better than the others? I don't think any of them really stood out. No, I don't really remember anything. Because Rizantage might have been in there, too, and you couldn't have, you could have fooled me. Maybe, yeah, I don't know how extensive that viewing was. I don't know if we maybe made it through one thing. Yeah. I was, so I lived half a mile from Universal in Studio City, and I could walk outside the house and look straight ahead, and I saw a plume of black smoke for a while. Because it was, even when it was cooling,

It was kind of smoking. And then I had a PA job where the offices were across the street from where we're recording now. And I had to run to the universe a lot, a lot. And so a day or the day, Monday and Tuesday after that fire, the accountants were in like temporary offices next to Kong. Like little shed trailers next to Com. And so I am parking next to the smolder. wreckage and I get it. When you went back to work, it was just, oh, my God. Well, yeah, they sent me on runs. And so there's, there were parking spots and offices there. And I walk out and I look at

the smoldering wreckage. Everyone is wearing hazmat suits. And I'm just so dipship PA. And I go into the temporary offices and they all got their windows open and fans going. They're like, yeah, the smell is awful. And I'm like, what do we all breathe in? Like, what did we? because they were just working. You're breathing in all the greatest blues and rock music of the last 70 years. Because the recordings were... Because all those music masters burnt

to the fire. Oh, yes. All the music masters. Oh, do I detect some buddy-holy? Was there a prop? Some of the prop warehouse was damaged, too? I don't know. I don't think there was a prop warehouse. The big prop warehouse survived. Yeah, yeah. No, props, I don't think we're near there. I mean, it was a lot of New York sets.

It was some of courthouse square, but not the courthouse itself. This is one of these things. We were debating this was sheer when we were down there, when we were in the spot at that fan fest nights thing. But the aerial photo tells the tale. Courthouse square, miraculously made. The actual courthouse survived two fires, because there was a 1991 as well. So there's, you know, this has been a long episode. We can't go into the history of the fires.

There's like 10 backlott fires. There were so many, but this one probably the most dramatic. although the 1991 was a motherfucker too. I mean, it's all just paint and plywood so much of those sets. And then if they have really old film, they mention it in Inglorious Bastards. Like a really old film masters were very flammable. Oh, that's right. Yeah, Silver Night Trade.

Yeah, Silver Night Trade. A perfect place to trap. Yeah. Has there, and the other fires, is anything that significant, like Kong gone up? I mean obviously they'd never built a big robot or anything I mean it's like sets that were like it was in its other parts

of Courthouse Square but I don't think it's not nearly the degree I was thinking about this how the King Kong Amatronic Burning that's gonna be one of the craziest things ever lost in a fire

maybe probably things more important historically have been but as far as like look at this do you know that there was this then there was a fire and there was not this it's pretty insane all those masters lost my friend Scooter Braun was really working hard on them.

What if that's just a word drop like, I mean, oh, my college roommate, Scooter Braun. You got to get through to him. You got to call him and stop him. He doesn't return my calls. He doesn't return my calls. You don't buy one picture at Moon Shadows and he doesn't return the fucking calls. I think he's dating Sidney Swinney? That is a rumor they met at Bezos' wedding.

Oh, okay. Jason knows this. Yeah, I know the gossip. I read the rags. He knows the goss. Sidney Sweeney, former Universal Tour Guide. Not, she actually was. She was.

She left. There's a whole controversy. I don't know if you caught this, David. There was somebody who was like a truther. She claimed this in an interview. And then there was somebody saying, she wasn't. I would remember because I worked there. And then somebody looked it up and I think she did a little bit of the training and then got out of there.

Huh. So she was technically accepted into the, or maybe did like work. I don't know or they never used her you know it's tough to climb up that seniority ladder this was like what six years ago she's not that old yeah yeah yeah it's a perfectly plausible yeah no but I believe that was a weird somebody on TikTok got like I'm proven this wrong

and which I appreciate somebody being an attack dog about that I'm so proud I had the job I don't want people falsely claiming they had the job but you know but in her case let's be respectful of the facts here she did technically get accepted I mean, people jumped on something and were wrong

on the internet and thankfully the Sydney Sweeney tour guide incident was the last it ever happened. So of the good genes it was

Can we? Oh yeah, yes, right. What is, why does she keep, why is everyone so mad

at Sydney? Why, um, uh, let's, can we entertain the idea that the, they meant to burn

Kong Don. Yeah, well, this has been your theory. This has been right. It's been running for a long time. I'm not saying, hypothetically.

I'm not saying they did. I'm not slander. Let's talk this out. You've always, this is what you've been a truther about, Sidney-Sweeney-Sty. Ever since the 30-Rock joke, that really put it in my mind, which was, which was, I forget if it's Jack or Liz, I think it's Jack, saying something along the lines of, and that theme park fire we said didn't burn down all the, any of the stuff we wanted it to. Oh, right.

Yeah, yeah. Like a year or two after this happens. There was also, there was the Steve Busemi, hey there, fellow kids joke, which is what you based your persona on. Yes, very actively I chose to be an old man wearing a baseball hat. So a lot of 30 Rock is influenced me over the years. Every joke is that at it's in a manifestation. Is that the joke I think of the Hello Fellow Kids?

I'm wondering, is that the joke I think of the most? Like when someone's out of touch or something? Did you see Hello Fellow Kids' bat was back on the Tonight Show? I think I did see that. Jimmy Fallon and Steve Buscemi with the backwards hat on the skateboard. and music band I think it's sure

music band something like that that's sort of what I like in like an electrified font or something in the way that you like all music I like every song wow

that's all in there but like hypothetically if they burned it down I don't think this is a decision they would have made now I don't have any like I'm not I don't have anything

like good I have documents I didn't find anything like that I'm just saying if they decided that they wanted to collect insurance money but they wanted to replace this with a 3D because Kong, of course, Peter Jackson.

I think this is not a choice they would make now in modern day. I've said this before about other things, but the Jaws ride in Florida. I don't think this is a choice they made then. I don't think they purposefully burnt down valuable sets because they wanted to do it with computers. And they had to build a whole new building. It's tough to get theme parks to build a new building. Right, but the money they would have collected from the insurance versus just deciding. That's what people, that's the conspiracy theory.

Interesting. David, you want to weigh in on this? This is, Mike has been positive for many years that Universal did aspire on purpose. I think that if there was any kind of leak that this was done on purpose, the, the blowback from that would outweigh. Well, they did a good job not letting it leak. Yeah, I don't, I don't think that they're competent enough to carry out a conspiracy like that. when I literally snuck on the back lot by just opening a door. I just don't think,

I don't think that they're that organized. Huh. I wonder. I mean, I wonder how high it would go. How would you even carry this out? Who would know and who would like the highest rung or the ladder would have to know? Or maybe not.

Maybe you keep it hidden so that that person would remain like they would be able to testify in the court of law that it was all right. We really should, you know what we really should do is, see if we can figure out how much insurance money was collected by this burning down. Got to follow the money. That would be the place to start. Jason, you get on that. Yes, sir. You get it. You make some phone calls. This is obviously the one of the big ones I think about with burning down for the insurance money. The other, of course, is Tiki Room under new management. There was a fire? Yeah, in Florida. Oh, okay. There was fire for the Iago and

Azoo, Tiki Room under new management, and after that, they rebuilt a lot, and they turned it back into abbreviated tropical serenade, abbreviated teaping room. That wasn't even a conspiracy. That was like, we're going to burn it, and the audience will applaud. That one's true. We're so glad. Then we just know they did burn that down. Well, that one, I was like, yeah, I think everyone hated.

A lot of people hated that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've never heard that. That's crazy. So I just, I really. Actually, I don't even want to necessarily discuss conspiracy theory versus the idea that I think that they were, this is still in the zone where they were getting rid of a bunch of stuff that is iconic in the sense that like they got rid of Jaws in Florida and like, I just don't think they would do that now. I think now they actually have a different philosophy. I could be wrong, but I feel like now.

What you're doing is like, okay, so we're agreeing that this is truth. Right. Hypothetically. Now let's build upon what we know is true. That's what we're doing. Exactly. We agree that they did it. They sent a guy in with a lighter.

I just think it's straight. So this we all agree on. So that given, would they, today would they burn down Hogwarts? It's a hypothetical. It's a hypothetical. It's an interest in the second half, I do agree with that they're a little more about preserving their history. They're more. That isn't to burn stuff?

No, no. No. I'm not. I'm not accepting. Hey, look at me, Scott. I'm saying, I do think current universal puts out a lot more retro stuff, retro, retro, not limited ticket events. merchandise, callbacks to the,

I think they are a little more like, oh, there's a period where they got rid of all their stuff. Shirts, you know, which is different than in the era where they burnt their own property, sending carcinogens into the air of everywhere it works there.

It's a perfect burn out of control. It's a perfect burn. That's the joke on 30 Rock. I follow the money and follow the joke. Which is all in the joke. There's a Cosby joke in 30 Rock. There's all the jokes of stuff that came out later to be true. That is true.

That's right. And it was proven that there really were were were werewolf bar mitzvahs. That's right. That's right. The footage is horrifying. They're insiders. How may men, men becoming wolves?

They're very, yeah. They knew everything is true. Every joke on 30 Rock is true. This is straight. Don't get me wrong. I like this take. I like the fast forward of the jump that you've done. Right.

Because it's interesting to discuss then the decision making process and would they have done it now? That's just, I think that's more fascinating than necessarily going through who they paid to like light a match and throw it over it calls. This errant unnamed welder. That's the story. It's somebody was just like

that a, like a piece of roofing got hot. Yeah. They didn't check if it had cooled. Right. And then suddenly it became a fire that engulfed much film and music history. Yeah. They didn't mean to burn that stuff down. Well, wait a minute. A welder's working on

Sunday. Interesting. That would probably pay time and a half. And if movie studios are always cutting costs, I'm intrigued by Mike's theory. It is. Yeah, it's intriguing. Suddenly he's interested in a welder job.

So, yeah. So anyway, I think that they would not burn it down anymore. I think it would still be there. I just don't know how to even approach this. You could argue that they would still burn it down. Current theme park management is more forward thinking. Maybe this is more of a theory. Maybe I should make a sort of a chart to show when a lot of these beloved things went away

and when I believe that the philosophy changed. Maybe I could actually build a case that this was in that zone of destroying our legacy. Look, there's a lot of high flying theories being thrown around today, you know? Yeah, I mean, look, Jason, you've committed insurance fraud, right? Who has it? In the nasty days, not the old days. What wife, Jason, would never commit insurance fraud. Nancy 23-year-old Jason was mostly committing insurance fraud.

I was traveling around. You know, your late spouse had a life insurance policy, but only I can get to it. Jason would marry. And while I'm here, want to bang? Jason would marry old widows In the early 20s It's early 20s It's been long enough

They've forgotten the plot of double indemnity So I can use it now Put on Dale-esque moustaches Jason's been married Inhabit different personas He's been married 11 times He would go to the same hotel And find a 90-year-old woman

The newspapers called me Black Widow for a while They all died mysterious deaths Uh-huh. A figure X-Yves died in the King Kong fire. Oh, that's interesting. That's interesting. I was just thinking.

It's been a while and I was thinking about you and I just, I got you a gift. It's a ticket to Universal Studios. They said no one was injured in that fire, but they weren't really people. They were just means to an end. He doesn't even see them as people. No.

Twisted. You weren't kidding. This guy was nasty. Twisted. In the last episode, I said he was a killer. You heard that? Turned them off the back planet trades. People thought I meant joke-wise or like sort of being ruthless. No, no, no, no. It was all right there.

It was all old shawl-wearing widows. Shawl-wearing widows. I wish this was still here. That's really what I'm saying. It's just I'm like, God, damn it. I know. If it wasn't for that insurance fraud scheme being so perfect, so clean, only to be unraveled by one meddling, comedy writer and of later meddling comedy podcaster. Unless they actually wanted to burn all the music and they accidentally burnt Kong down. Oh, it was a music thing.

Maybe that's what the joke was actually referencing. Scooter wouldn't do that. They were trying to destroy, well, that's true. Or they were just trying to like destroy one tiny building near courthouse square. Yeah, yeah. And then they took out all the music in Kong because like the arsonists they paid was really bad. Really shitty arsonists. Yeah, yeah.

No, it was a rough. No, no, like you can pinpoint. This right? Yes, absolutely. Yeah. Only the, just the, just the buddy guy. We don't want to pay the buddy guy family anymore. It's hard. Right. It is hard to find a good, controlled arsonist.

You can find a guy just to light a match and run. Yeah, any idiot. They hired like a guy with a flamethrower. Gave him a drive on. They're like, ah, shit, that's not the guy. Very helpful. He's just torching everything. Very helpful when they were.

filming once upon a time to Hollywood, not to help full burning the backline. Yeah, same flame floor. Well, anyway, you know, it also didn't work for them because we talked about this for a while years ago when there was a New York Times busted it open that like, oh my God, we lost all of music history,

thousands of artists, but seemingly I was looking at this a little bit and maybe you'll say this is corporate malfeasance again. But supposedly there's backups of everything and like it wasn't that bad and there was a lawsuit that was like a this was a all-star lineup. This is like a rock and roll

Hall of Fame super jam where the states of Tupac and Tom Petty and Hole and Soundgarden and Steve Earl all got together to sue Universal Music and then it was all dismissed. It was all thrown out and now and then

Universal's mad at the New York Times and they said like why haven't you come out and disproven this whole thing? Got thrown out in court and there's incontrovertible evidence and the artist stood down so why aren't you reporting about that? So I don't know. Maybe this fire wasn't that bad, actually.

There were a bunch of artists who were worried that it all, they thought, this is, and we all got a sober up here, they thought that they lost the smash mouth master tapes. There was a minute there where we thought maybe we couldn't do a perfect recreation in any format in the future of can't get enough of you, babe. All of Astro Lounge. All of Astro Lounge gone. It can never be, they can never do a 30, yeah, they can't do a get back with it.

Giles Martin will never get his hands on Astro Lounge. And if Peter Jackson's responsible for this, the man who behind Get Back, he could be doing the Astro Lounge documentary. The Cirque de Soleil Astro Lounge, where they reconfigure all the different Smash Mouse songs into these different mashups. The stems. Now we can just have the bass playing of whoever the bass player of Smash Man. Yeah, I don't know. Mike, did you get any Smash Mouse stems from Kazah where you could help them with the rebuilding the Arkham? Mike's going to have to put Astro Lounge back together.

piece by piece and self. No, but then they called and said, no, you're fine. Smash them up, don't even worry your pretty little heads, smash mouth. Don't worry your frosted-tip little heads. Yeah, no problem.

We got it all. It's all backed up. So this is at least, this is a nice story as far as outtakes being not just put in one building that is next to a building that lights on fire

hundreds and hundreds of times a day. Do you remember, I'm sorry, what was it? Next to 600 pounds of fur. Yeah. It's probably extremely flammable Halloween costume

quality fur. Do you remember taking the tour, like when they gave us a walking tour, like during the training and they pointed out, like, there's the film vault. Don't ever tell anyone about that. That's top secret. I do. Yes. It's weird. And then when the fire happened, like, oh, right. That film vault was right there. They told us it was one of the only

secret things. It's so weird. I wish they had a backup of Kong, though. Oh, that's well. That's the real. They really fucked up. Don't just build one animatronic, build a beam. And whatever happened to the ones in Florida? Why don't you just put one of those in? Oh my God, there were backups there.

Jesus Christ, that sucks. Because, like, obviously, this has been a crazy long episode, and I'm glad. We're going for it, clearly, during Sip Tramber. Yeah. But I still think that we could manage to cover King Kong 360 within this episode. And here's how I think we're going to do it. It sucks. Fuck it, that.

I hate it. It's so bad. I hate the new King Kong. I took the tour a couple weeks ago. It is dim. You can't see it anymore. It is bad. It is bad.

The perspective is bad. It's, I don't want to put words in anybody else's mouth. That's just, that's for me. But we're going to lose this robot. I love, if I could see this robot again today, I would give it a big hug. I would hug every one of its teeth. Well, and they knew that, too, because when they replicated the King Kong 3D ride in Florida, what was the change they make?

Giant King Kong puppet, a animatronic at the end. Yeah, which makes it better than that. It is better. It is better. Yeah. I think that's great. I don't know if you've done that down in Florida. I haven't done the Skoll Island ride now.

I find it superior to the thing here. Do you have strong thoughts about that? I do, because I took my daughter on the tour for the first time about a year ago. And she was really scared. I'm like, it's not that big a deal. And she put on the 3D glasses and she watched the, you know, the screens of 360. and we come out and she's like oh that was so cool I'm like no it wasn't you're wrong and then I just went I spent the rest of the tour just telling her about how great

the mechanical monkey was and how she'll never see it 27 different movements Bob Gurr teeth big real teeth chompers you'll get that in there yeah it's I I don't hate it but it is too dim and it really depends on which part of the tram you're in but there is some I do like some of the jostling I'm a fan of the jostle that happens in there

and if you're in the I've been in good spots and I can't tell you what they are but I'm getting in good spots where you do get like a good like T-Rex head hitting the side or whatever there's some there's a better place

in the other than when we eventually cover it maybe I'll have a lot I'll tell you splitting we still have to do it I think we have... Fucker, come on. Not tomorrow.

King Kong splitting the jaw. No one's going to be excited that day. Yes, Jason is very nervous. Yes, but I think that rules. Oh, my God. I think you were just offended. I don't... Too woke for it.

I guess so. That is a crazy moment. You're right. But I think it's like, when are you going to see something insane like that? You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Do you know, can I,

something positive, a quote that always makes me laugh and smile is the I came across this anecdote and certainly got brought up because David Lynch just passed away but Naomi Watts when she was debating taking the role in King Kong

she told David Lynch and what David Lynch said there was Naomi anyone who sits in the hand of King Kong will be a movie star and he was kind of right she's had a great career it was all because of Kong

it was all because of Khan because David told her take it. I just thought that was nice. Does David Lynch have any career advice for Mike or anyone else in the room? I want more Lynch. Oh, Jason Lynch. Yeah. Sign up for transcendental meditation. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, sure. Just look up the weather. Just read us the weather. Oh, yeah. The current weather. 80s degrees. Going up to 91, low of 68, 66. It's hot in the Southland today. Wow, you need to take it over from him. Yeah.

It's been missing ever since he passed. I, okay, well, what the hell else do? What do we, this, we're in like getting into longest episode. This is the old days, yeah. I know. Well, I mean, it's a good sign because we're lit up. I'm lit up by the nostalgia for doing it. I have to pick up 48 cans of pet food in Santa Monica by 7 p.m.

And I thought there's no way I'm not going to be able to make that. Wow. As we keep ticking on, I go, this is not the first time. You've been out of a podcast, the ride thing. And you're like, oh, I got to pick up that food. I had to pick up dog Prozac. Yeah. Oh, oh, yeah.

But this is a different issue with a certain type of food that's not being made or there's supply chain issues. So, and it was funny because I'm like, oh, wow, we're doing a marathon today. I didn't realize. I think we'll be all right. I don't think I did either. But once you start, once you start, once you start going, you get. This is a sequence in the tour that's like two minutes long.

An episode is big as the beast himself. And God, imagine how much pros. Prozac it would take to Kong King Kong. Gorilla Prozac. I would guess 70,000 Prozac pills

might start to put a chunk into the task. That would be a great little plus-up where like they surf a big pill in a King Kong's mouth. Is that in any of the movies? Yeah.

Or I guess a train. Then they just shut it down. Then that's just built in. Oh, that's perfect. That's nice. Yeah. Well, that's a good little plus up. Yeah.

Maybe that's what you've got to do because this is where we're the phrase came. Kong had in Orlando. They didn't build the full. There was like concept art where they would have a big Kong chasing you, a practical Kong chasing you. It's on a message board somewhere. I don't know how close it came to being made, but like they settled on just giving you

the big head, which is something. Yeah. It's absolutely something. Much better than nothing. Yeah. But it would be nice to at least get a little chest. Oh, remember the chasing King Kong was going to take the guide or the driver out of the vehicle.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was going to be a robot and there were going to be different types of. I mean, the blue sky on that was amazing. That would have been like what I wanted to do on Jaws. We were going to do it for real. Yeah. And that's still built, I feel like, in the less good universal times.

Yeah. I'll come up with the whole. I'm going to have a unified theory on the good and bad times of universal creative. Look, Scott already did all his homework. We got homework to do, brother. I'm going to crack. I'm going to go to the insurance company first. And then second, I'm going to come up with this theory of the good days and bad.

David, anything else about King Kong? Anything else about how your time there ended? Any wrap-up notes on the last door here? Not necessarily about Kong, but I remember my last tour, it was there was, it was a two-hour tour, just stall after stall after stall. And I was out of material, and we go into the War the World set, and the little girl goes to her mom. mommy is that 9-11 and I lost it I lost my shit

like I just thought like I was just done I'm like I'm done I think I literally said I'm done and I just stopped talking for the rest of the tour you snapped and yeah I don't know I don't know if I got fired for that or if there was complaints or what

I don't remember how I left I just remember I left And... It was just agreed upon. Yeah, it was just mutually... That little girl understood the visual imagery of that movie. She did. She got it. Wow.

That's so funny. Well, that, you know, that's a good pitch, I think. You know, the sobering reality. That should be a deal with a, you know, maybe a child should learn from the events of the past and have to confront them and then to think about how to forge a better future. He's very watch. So parents show 9-11 footage to your children. Dale's riding up into the sunset?

I didn't even think. It was too early for that. That's so insane. Wow. So you really, you flamed out. I was done. That's a fascinating. I carried out my childhood dream, and this is too much.

I'm done. Boy, maybe King Kong could have picked up one of the planes and tossed it in the opposite direction. If only he'd been attacking the Twin Towers on that day. instead of back in 1976 when the film was shot he wasn't going to attack the Twin Towers to a permanent end just going for a climb as an ape wishes he could

that director would go on to also direct King Kong Liz in 1986 a real thing I discovered while we were recording Oh right wow yeah Boy well what a time It's been spectacular talking about all this stuff

And what if you, if you could do this one more time, do you feel like me, do would, like, I really, I have the strongest urge to like, I would, I want to give him a hug. I want to nestle in that fur. I just, I wish I could, I guess it goes to show you. You get the ones you love. You got to tell him while you're with them. Yeah, you look into those red flashing eyes. You see his soul. And it's the soul of a gentle giant. I do love him. I really do. We don't even talk about the eyes. I love him and I miss him every day. Boy, well, thank God this was you. Thank God. It was somebody. who loves him, it had to be. David Love, you survived, podcast The Ride. For Sip Tramber, my God, thank you for God. This was a blast. Thanks for doing the long haul with us here. Exit through the gift shop. Anything you like to plug?

Yeah, actually, I was thinking about this. I starred in a short film. It was me and Ryan Mitchell and a dinosaur named Yoshi. and this was a short film Scott directed 20 years ago and I would love everyone to look this up with your permission sure sure and I assuming I don't remember hopefully it's all it's all it's all on the up and up I yeah I looked it up it's all on YouTube you just type in Scott Gairdner and Yoshi and I flubbed the line

and it's in there there was so yes so so you wrote something about you know this is my personal dinosaur transport yeah personal dinosaur transport uh a ptd but i said pdt on every take in half the comments i mean it's a great video half the comments are oh this idiot like it should have been ptd instead of pd so i would love the listeners to go look at this video and reply to these 17 year old comments wow get in there get in there and defend my honor wow It was, see, the energy of the take is more important than the accuracy. I don't even know that one. Boy, that's the college humor days.

My God. Yeah, where if you had a segue and, or no, no, Yoshi was yours. Right, right? It's like when you competed by having a Yoshi that was your just, like, get around town. Yeah. Which, what a drill. That was such a fun thing to put you on a digital Yoste to use a little Hollywood magic. It was fun to figure out, effects-wise, on a janky.

And you were so great. in so many of my old videos and I like so glad we met doing the tour thank you for being part of all those such so many nice memories and nice memories to share here today. Thank you so much. Man, this has been a pleasure.

Ah, geez. Well, as for us, for three bonus episodes every month, check out Podcast the Ride the Second Gate or get one more bonus episode in our VAP chair. Club three, you'll find all that at patreon.com slash podcast The Ride. We've been ending the episodes with a little phrase. It's kind of the end of the tour phrase.

And I remember another memory I have, David, was that you were mad that this phrase was put in the mouth of Billy Bush in spite of us getting to say it. And another one of these, like, that's the kind of opinion I like. I like the things that David cares about. On that note, would you like to say,

I assume that you know what I'm talking about. Would you like to close about it? We'll see you in the movies. Yay. Yay. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gardner,

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