Podcast: The Ride - Kingda Ka with Dan Klein

Episode Date: March 13, 2020

Dan Klein (A.P. Bio, Good News) joins us to discuss the world's tallest and formerly fastest roller coaster. Plus: errant birds.  Plus Us Up: Fuzzbucket episode now up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com.../PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FOREVER! DOG! Warning, the following podcast may contain a 456 foot high view of a parking lot. It may also include an erstwhile margarine spokesman and a high degree of branding for got-to-be-glued hair spiking glue. We journey to a jungle called New Jersey with Dan Klein to talk about Kingda Ka at Six Flags Great Adventure on Podcast the Ride, a podcast about theme parks where today at least one host will speak with authority about a ride he would never ever go on. I'm that guy, Scott Gardner. I don't know about my co-hosts uh mike carlson uh i before this podcast i think i wouldn't have gone on it but now i do feel i have like going on when i went on hang time with jason shared and the other
Starting point is 00:01:12 co-hosts yes he's here as well i don't know that i would have done that coaster knots if not for the podcast yeah you know what i mean right i'm not in shape which i feel to some extent right this is far beyond what I would. Right. But I'm saying there's scales like you were not doing drop rides. You were not doing launch. So now you're doing that. I was doing that before. So now I have to take it up a notch.
Starting point is 00:01:34 From where you were at, but I'm still handicapped. I still have my handicap. Right. So maybe in two years, you'll be doing Kingda Ka. Maybe so. And in two years, I'll be hanging out of a plane or something. I am disappointed in myself. I haven't been on this.
Starting point is 00:01:49 It's a little after my time of going to Great Adventure. That was my childhood Six Flags. Well, Jason, you started... Since you started the podcast with a higher threshold than all of us, for you to take it up higher, do you have to try autoerotic
Starting point is 00:02:05 asphyxiation or like what you should do a you should uh do autoerotic asphyxiation but then do a halo jump like tom cruise did in mission impossible six oh yeah so you get like a huge boner and then jump out of a very high plane. My thing that I usually don't do with parks is anything where it's like an additional add-on. I mean, partly I'm cheap. Second, it's always like a slingshot that a teenager, it's always like a scrap metal capsule on Bungie.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And it's like for an extra $20, you can be launched into the sky. Which they have at Six Flags Magic Mountain. Yes, which they do have there. Which you just are like Superman. Did you see this? Did I send you a video of into the sky. Which they have at Six Flags Magic Mountain. Yes, which they do have there. Which you just are like Superman. Did you see this? Did I send you a video of that? No.
Starting point is 00:02:48 There's just a thing where you and like three people, they get stacked together like Superman, and then they just let you go off of a bungee, and you go back and forth on a bungee like Superman. Jesus. And it looks very cheap. It looks very scary. Yeah, and kind of the bigger the town in the Jersey Shore,
Starting point is 00:03:07 the more likely you are to have launches or bungee jumps or something like that. And when we run out of rides from Disneyland and Universal, the three of us will have to... Just go do random teenager run slingshot experiences? Well, sure. We'll do a whole month of slingshot experiences together. Three supermen.
Starting point is 00:03:24 All right. We'll talk about that. We got years to go. For now, okay, we should say that today's topic is the world's tallest roller coaster, and we're talking about it with one of the world's tallest comedians in terms of talent. He's a writer for AP Bio and Great News and a bunch of other great stuff. The very funny Dan Klein. Hello.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Thank you. Yes. I think I'm five foot eight. So regular size man, but the talent. But talent wise. 400 something feet tall. Kingda Ka is 456 feet. And I've been on it multiple times.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Okay. So in terms of bravery, maybe one of the most brave guests. You can rank in terms of actual height where you feel you fall on the scale. Yes, yeah. And certainly the brave, I'm the only one that's been on it here. So I'm the bravest person here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:12 That's fair, yeah. Yeah, quite easily. And how many times? Like a couple times too? Several times. I like, so basically I would go to Six Flags Great Adventure as an adult later, probably past my like, well, yeah, coaster ride. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah. Coaster riding prime is what? Like 13 to 18, something like that. But while your brain is still growing and can take the abuse. Yes. Yeah. That it's like, oh, this seems fine. Even though you should probably should not be doing it at that point in your life.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. It should be doing it as like an old person. person that's those are the people that should go on yeah roller coaster yeah because they're already losing it yeah what's the point what's the point like this is my time to enjoy myself or if it kills you then kills if it gives yeah it seems like a fine way to go or your brain cells whatever yeah at that yeah so you just want to have some fun at that point yeah um but i was doing it in my 20s that i would go with a couple of other friends we did it i think three years in a row and we would stay in my house in new jersey um where that's more my parents house in new jersey and we would go to halloween horror nights
Starting point is 00:05:16 um which oh wait no wait fright fright so sorry so sorry oh my god that's fine all the new jersey fans are gonna to kill me. Fright Fest. Learn your brand. Learn your theme park scare brand. So yes, yeah, yeah. Where you get scared. I've been scared on the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I've been scared on the West Coast. Oh, geez. Getting scared across America. Actually, that is another thing that I could talk about is that I was always too scared of that stuff. Oh, yeah. So I would really avoid it at all costs, but we would just go because the lines were shorter at that time of the year and if you went on a friday night especially all the children were gone right so the lines were really short and we would just like run through
Starting point is 00:05:56 the park and get on as many rides as we could and we would usually start with king da ka oh sure just get there before any line starts. Okay, okay. But that's also terrifying because it's very strange to be the first person on a roller coaster, like the first person of that day. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:13 If it hasn't been vetted and there hasn't been a few guinea pigs. Which they have, yes. They've done, you've seen it go up and down empty. Yeah. But still, to be the first person on a roller coaster that day feels strange. It seems like this will be the first person on a roller coaster that day
Starting point is 00:06:25 feels strange it seems like this will be the time that there would be some issue yeah especially which seems like it there there are errors i fit this things they did like they they know there's going to be problems sometimes we'll get into that but sorry what are you saying oh i just uh sometimes the vibe at six flags i feel like Great Adventure usually had their act together, but sometimes the vibe is like, oh, yeah, this ride is opening late because Kenny was 20 minutes late because he took too long.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yes, yeah, yeah. So it's just like, oh, hey, man, sorry. Sorry about that. Come on on, come on on. The teenager that we hired to run yeah run this thing that is run this affronts to god to god's kingdom who was trained like for a day by a video and presses a button now is like running late so but yeah there were a few times where they would be like talking you know this the 10 year old six flags employees that were running this thing
Starting point is 00:07:22 and you're waiting in line and wondering what's happening, what's going on, is everything okay? And then they're like, oh, I think it's fine. Like, come on in. Yeah. There's such like astrophysics involved in this attraction, especially all roller coasters. But this seems like you need degrees to operate it.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Yeah, there should be more scientists, I feel like. A scientist on call at all times. A Six Flags scientist to just be like, everything's okay. I've done the calculations again. Just sitting next to an old computer to make it seem like everything's a go. Let me see a list of five articles you've written, and then I will trust you with my life. It feels like we did this crazy new Disneyland ride, the Star Wars ride, and we were told there were 30 Imagineers in the basement making sure that everything was okay and monitoring it. And I feel like Six Flags just has like one handyman that's in the middle of the park somewhere.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And then they go, hey, something's wrong. And he goes, oh, okay. And like that's – or they don't even have him. He's like at home and they have to call him. Yeah. It's like if a sink is broken in a place we live yeah we're gonna call the handy bia yeah there's no real like sink guy it's like i know how to like use a wrench better than you do so i'll tighten something but right yeah there's not many like
Starting point is 00:08:35 guys that are specific to this one thing yeah yes yeah um we also did we did this episode uh behind the paywall which allowed us to be more honest about the six flags experience but there's a fright fest here in in la at magic mountain that well i mean go listen to it on the second gate our patreon thing but the like uh the most scarring image for me was the uh discussion of teenagers sucking fog yeah like getting a well you were there you could say it yeah so so in fright fest of course they have a lot of fog machines and there's a lot of teens of course they're very very tried they're trying to impress each other yeah so there was a teen that was specifically very impressive he impressed you he impressed me and my friend anthony uh because he
Starting point is 00:09:20 went up to the fog machine and just sucked the fog right straight from the machine. Is that some kind of drug? Or is it just like it was cool? It's impressive because it's like, oh, I'm doing something crazy. He was experimenting. If synthesized correctly, he could have pioneered. So maybe he already now in the month since this October
Starting point is 00:09:37 figured out how to synthesize it or make it solid or something. Right? Isn't it a vape track? He was like, oh, it's like a big vape. It was, yeah. Fog machine, if you think about it, it's just a something right because isn't it a vape track like he was oh like oh it's like a big vape you know it was yeah fog machine if you think about it it's just a big vape yeah so i think that is what he was like doing like blowing it out for his friends i think i mean the teens were everywhere they were that was the craziest thing i think we saw from the teens that night fog sucking fog sucking teens don't care about legionnaires disease
Starting point is 00:10:06 lingering no there's disease opportunity topic and team talk no yeah you didn't see any fog butt chugging though oh my god nobody bent over a fog machine or squatted over a fog machine because it would go up fog goes up fog can go up so you could just squat over it and then try to like spit it out of your mouth like see if it makes it all the way through your intestines oh and burp it out or something or blow it out i guess that's a long distance for fog to not dissipate all the way from anus to mouth yeah that's like it would be like a david blaine style trick a true sorcerer we need to do that which takes time it takes a one hour special yes all the way through on sunday night this week on abc david blaine butt chug some fog for harrison ford in his house yeah that's unbelievable for very high harrison ford
Starting point is 00:11:02 get in here you gotta see this you gotta see this. You gotta see this, Callista. Suck this fog in his asshole. Do it again. Don't leave. Keep doing it. Holy shit. Ever since I was a boy, it was my dream to butt-shock fog.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Tonight with you watching. I was thinking about being a teenager recently and the things that I would do that I thought were just like, oh, I'm just like a teen. But looking back, it was to try and be impressive. And one of the things was i would do that i thought were just like oh i'm just like a teen this is but looking back it was to try and be impressive and one of the things was just like cursing loudly more in conversation did you guys ever do this yes yeah like yeah you could curse like and it doesn't matter like you're not affected by the cursing oh yeah yeah you don't
Starting point is 00:11:40 like look around before you say the curse no. You just barrel in. Yeah, you're just like, yeah. You say it performatively loud. Yeah, loud. And as if someone would then hear those curses and be like, that was, yes, that was very impressive to me. And I have to say, sexy. Let's see, inside the actress studio, what's your favorite curse word? Or what was it when you were? I think it was probably just fuck, right?
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah. You just want to say that as much as possible find a spot for it and hope that a beautiful woman hears it and has never heard a little boy say it so much what was that word and you can just say this yeah yeah the confidence the gusto the teacher is yelling at you, but she's like, but hold on. It's the after class. Yeah, yeah. The after class is sexy. I've never seen a little boy swear before. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:32 That was very cool. What age? Like doing this? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. It probably ranged anywhere from like 10 to like 21 or something. I think I was eighth grade when I started. Oh, your first like public curse word? Yeah, I think I was 8th grade when I started. Oh, your first public curse word?
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah, I think. That's awesome. I feel like it's a late public curse word. I have a late lot of things in my life. Yes, I feel like my friends and I are probably starting to do it like... I mean, I remember a kid saying in 3rd grade, saying bitch on the
Starting point is 00:13:02 playground at school. But he was in a dire situation. Yeah. Wait, where he had to say bitch? He was getting sat on by a bigger kid. Oh. And he yelled, get this big bitch off of me. And we're all like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Whoa. Oops. Oh my God, I just spilled water. Water's been spilled. But you didn't swear. I didn't. No. I don't anymore.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Is it bad? Is this with this is it bad or spilled all over those at a little or bad because we can pause a second yeah maybe let's pause okay we're back i'll say in case we leave the spill in uh and we're talking about uh teens and uh cursing oh and what oh and we're talking about uh big bitches yes yeah yeah get this big bitch off me famous moment from my elementary school um so i think it was around then that people you know probably cursed at the bus stop sure that's cool and a good great great that's your cursing journey yes um uh which dovetails nicely i guess into into roller coaster oh wait well we have to talk about the thing you mentioned in your life's roller coaster journey.
Starting point is 00:14:09 When I was talking to you about topics, I was delighted when you brought up this tape. Yes. When you were growing up, you had a roller coaster tape. A tape that I watched frequently. Yeah. I couldn't even get through like 10 minutes of it. Recently now? Yeah, recently watching the YouTube.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Someone kindly put it on YouTube. Not just it, but it's two sequels. Oh, I will say I did not watch the sequels, but I did make it through the first one. People might cheer if this was also a childhood favorite. I didn't know it before, but it is called America's Greatest Roller Coaster Thrills in 3D. Yes, it is in 3D.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And what does that mean? Nothing. Nothing. It comes with glasses. They mount the camera in the front car of the coaster, so it feels like you're on it. And I have to say, I watched it. I watched the full hour.
Starting point is 00:14:55 And then I put the sequels on to peacefully go to sleep. Oh, that's nice. It activated something in my brain where I was like, yes, this feels good. I like this. There's something nice. This is good. It's a very my brain where I was like, yes, this feels good. I like this. There's something nice. This is good. It's a very easy way to experience a roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You don't have to leave your house and you get to see the thrills. You get to see the thrills. Some of these are gone, too. Drakken Fire and Big Bad Wolf are both gone from Bush Gardens. Big Bad Wolf I thought was so cool. The hanging and seated. Because there was the Batman hanging where your legs are kicking but big bad wolf had like little boats that were like hanging oh that makes sense i think when i
Starting point is 00:15:30 was watching it there was some familiarity to me about the little boats because i think is that the proper term they got i'll say it is now it's little boats uh i went on something oddly in the same video there's a roller coaster called top gun but i went on a different top gun at king's island that was a little boat coaster not a flying coaster and so i think i like but the boat as i recall i was especially a coaster wimp uh you know in 2005 when i did this the boats i could handle i think i'm a fan of little boats okay nice please direct me to more little it also just looked cool going around the turns and stuff because it kind of swings up in the air a little bit. Yeah, it cascades out.
Starting point is 00:16:07 It's very satisfying. That little pattern, yeah. That was probably my favorite coaster to watch on that video. Huh. Yeah. Now, watching the video, first of all, the beginning there's banter between, it's a man and a woman host. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Very professional host people. Yes. Host people who I can peg. Listeners, if you don't have a chance to look it up right now or don't care about it, imagine someone says, okay, we need a Harry Anderson type. Oh, yeah. And we need a Suzanne Sommer type. Yeah. Can we get them?
Starting point is 00:16:38 And they're like, absolutely not. Absolutely not. No. We have no money. No, they will not do this. But we have a guy who is credited on one episode of the Tim Conway show. Oh, nice. Also, though, what was the Tim Conway show?
Starting point is 00:16:51 I'm sure there were multiple Tim Conway shows. It was the one that was just called the Tim Conway show. But that was like a long time ago, not like a podcast he did. Oh, no, no, no. Long time ago. 70s, 80s variety show kind of thing, I think. Yeah. Anyway, but it's a guy and a girl, and the dynamic is,
Starting point is 00:17:11 guy's a real coaster hound. Yes. And girl, like, oh, you would know. She says, you would take an act of Congress to get me on one of these things. Great writing. Big bitch. Yeah, I was like, I'm a big bitch. I can't get on this.
Starting point is 00:17:24 But then she doesn't get on the coasters uh no eventually she does she doesn't want and then it's really confusing they get they clearly the hosts only went to magic mountain and they didn't travel the country for this thing so they go like no money they yeah yeah not at all uh. So they go on whatever it is at Magic Mountain. Could be Batman the Ride even. And she goes on it. And then you leave the host for a long time. You go on five more coasters, which it's all long and tedious. And then we come back to the skit that's like, now she's making him go on it.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Also, there's like an arc. Now she's got the taste. Yeah. There's a little three-act stretch three-act structure to this thing. Great story. You meet all sorts of characters. You meet one guy from Arrow, the manufacturing company Arrow. Which I did look up, and it is now defunct.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Tsk, tsk. Arrow's gone. Yeah. Arrow Dynamics. Yes. Yes. Ron Toomer is his name. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Ron Toomer. His name is Ron Toomer. I was like, this is such like, this all feels so fake. It feels like a Tim and Eric sketch or something. Yeah. Watching a 90s VHS of roller coasters. Well, and especially because now we talk to the coaster expert and his expert analysis is kind of like, yeah, you know, he's got to figure out a good way for him to bend and
Starting point is 00:18:42 that's how you make it move. And that's important. I don't go on him. I just bend him and here's how you do it and then he takes a wire and just bends it around and that's how a coaster's made. That made me so nervous. I was like, he's gonna get smacked in the face with that wire because
Starting point is 00:18:55 he seemed like he was having trouble bending it. Yes. And then his eye goes straight on the socket. They would have left it in if it happened. Yeah. They wouldn't have cut it out. They just had one time to do it. Yeah, yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 00:19:08 That's all the tape we got. If you got hit in the eyes, like, ah, don't go on roller coasters. Look what they could do to you. Heed my warning. If just the small one did it, imagine what a big one would do. You could die. You don't be like me, Ron Toomer. You were saying VHS, but I found it on Laserdisc on eBay.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Whoa. $50 for this Laserdisc. $5 shipping. Like new condition. Oh, it's like new. Yeah. Mine was not like new. It was played many times.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Wow. It says minor. So did you like, because to explain what they mean by 3D is that they just play you the POV. Yes. Like now on YouTube, you can watch a ton of POV shot on people's phones or roller coasters. But at the time, they had to set up big broadcast cameras and mount them in a complicated manner. So you just get to watch 10 roller coasters all the way through as if you were going on it. I think it was probably like as a child my version
Starting point is 00:20:05 of reality tv of like yeah you just kind of leave it on you don't have to watch every scene it kind of blends into the next thing you know like i didn't want to watch a narrative and someone gave it to me as like a birthday gift i think okay and so i i don't know i mean also looking back as a kid i'm like i don't know why I was watching what I was watching other than my love for just a television being on for me. Because it was around. It was around. There was people on it. Like, I just watched every sitcom imaginable. I don't think I liked any of them. Yeah. But I watched all of them.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Whereas now in this era where you can choose. You choose. If it's bad, you just don't want. Although people are still watching crap. Yeah. Yes. Crap rises to the top. It's all about the crap. People love crap. Crap is.
Starting point is 00:20:52 It'll never stop. It'll never stop. They love crap food. They love crap TV. It's true. I remember another podcast, that show Radio Lab, from like years. I mean, they still make it. But years ago, there was an episode where I think they found like an old trash heap from like ancient egypt and there was they kept finding
Starting point is 00:21:09 this book and it was like erotica like crap of the time and like that's what people were reading it's just crap like an old egyptian book you mean like a romance novel for egyptians essentially like ancient egyptians yeah it's just like pornono? Yeah. It's just like you're like run-of-the-mill, like pulp- Yeah, it's the V.C. Andrews of its time. And they were like, that's what everybody wanted to read. Wow. And you're like, yeah, that's just what's going on now. Jeez.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I like that. Being able to judge that, like finding something ancient and old that should feel important and being able to say it sucks. It's crap. Yeah, like the writing is horrible here. This is just about sex and nothing else. It's funny that it's like maybe back then it was considered good. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah. You know, maybe they were being harsh on it. Right. But like it could have been like a Fifty Shades of Grey. Yeah. That's kind of what I think they were trying to say. Like this is like people read that now. People read it then.
Starting point is 00:22:03 We're all the same. We haven't changed. The aliens combing through, you know, the remains of humanity and just going like, People read that now. People read it then. We're all the same. We haven't changed. The aliens combing through the remains of humanity and just going like, what is A Million Little Pieces? This must have been an important book for them. Yeah, this is it. This was their god.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah, this was their god. Written by a non-liar. Yeah. That's the one. Oh, that's the one. That's the one written by the liar. I haven't watched that one. But isn't that the This Is Us rip us rip wait uh no oh no i mean that's a million little things guy who went
Starting point is 00:22:30 to rehab but made most of it up and then he was on one oprah and it was a book club and then it like sold a ton and then it was like oh i'm a lot i lied that i made this he made all of it up right yeah that was the idea okay sorry i was thinking of a million little things the short-lived drama i think maybe i thought those things were related to yeah it's just people like that idea of like a bunch of something a million of something i guess so that's never changed either yes people like crap and they want a million of something one time when i was uh hosting the tram tour as i as i did long ago i had an especially non-responsive audience in the front row. And if people don't pay attention in the fourth car of the tram, whatever, I can't see.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I don't care. But the first car, you really notice. And there was somebody just brazenly reading that book on the ride at the theme park. Why even go on the ride at that point? I don't know. I guess it was pleasant background noise? Yeah, I guess like the roller coaster tape but they decided to go do it in person.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Yes, yeah. It's like I like being around it. Yeah, I get wind in my face. Yeah, it's nice. I can't drive my own car and read at the same time. So I'm going to pay this place to drive me around. Maybe I'll turn and look when the shark jumps up
Starting point is 00:23:45 but otherwise but I was like really I was mad I like tried to roast him and I'm like I was gonna say are you allowed to like Rickles style roast the people in the front row on the tram tour uh probably not not Rickles I guess you can't say Rickles style because that's not hey you big bitch look at this what are you a Nazi look this Nazi. I guess you probably can't do that. I tried to make fun of them. I think I, I'm sure it was much more sputtery at the time, but I tried to say,
Starting point is 00:24:12 hey, if you're going to read a book in front of me, can it be a book by a non-liar? That didn't do it. Yeah, that clear, clean zing I just did. Is the book still good, even if you know it's a lie? I mean, most books are lies. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:24:28 It's true. I mean, all of entertainment are just lies. Lies upon lies. Yeah, so did its effect, this positivity in the world, actually make up for the lie? Yeah. It's like that Simpson episode with Jebediah Springfield. Is the legend better than the reality?
Starting point is 00:24:44 I don't know that it is. You think no? It's not one I see out on racks. Oh, you're saying a book. with Jebediah Springfield. Is the legend better than the reality? I don't know that it is. You think no? It's not one I see out on racks. Oh, you're saying the book. The book. You're not talking about the idea I'm talking about. Life of Pi tried to pull that too. Do you guys see Life of Pi?
Starting point is 00:24:56 I haven't seen Life of Pi. Can I ruin it for you? Yeah, sure. Go. Life of Pi. Listeners, listen. Jump ahead a few seconds. If you recall, it was that Ang Lee movie
Starting point is 00:25:04 where there's spectacular animal things going on. But it turns out at the end, well, first it starts with by the end of this story, you're going to believe in God, which I'm like, I'm already annoyed. It says that? Yes, the character is telling a story. Oh. And then at the end, someone's like, okay, I think what actually happened was that you were stuck on this boat with your family. And this animal represents this person and this represents this person. And what really happened was like this horrible thing.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And it's like, yes, but what version do you like better? And I'm like, well, you didn't show us the other version. So you're just dismissing it as if it's not interesting or worthwhile for anyone to hear it. You're saying, like, no, no, no, you got to hear the monkey version. And so I'm like, that really, like, bothered me. Sometimes it was like literary bestsellers. Like, do not make good movies. Like, The Goldfinch was this hugely successful book.
Starting point is 00:25:58 It's a giant brick of a thing. And a movie came out. And did any of you see it? The Goldfinch? No, really? Exactly. yeah well but this one at least was an oscar nominated i mean that one's true yeah but like even even those like there's something gets weird in translation sure like yeah that is very aggressive to start off with a very aggressive you're gonna believe in god yeah yeah fool only the only books to do that
Starting point is 00:26:23 are life of pie in the Bible. The Bible. You're going to believe in God by the end of this book. Not till the end. But you're going to read every page and then you'll get it. I actually just started reading the Bible. Really? Genuinely? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Genuinely, I was curious. I was like, I've never read this thing. Sure. But it probably doesn't occur to most people to sit down and read the... Yeah. And I don't know anything. I really don't know much about religion at all and i was sick of being like seeing things on tv or movies and people are like oh that's a biblical reference you know and i'm like i don't know what they're talking about
Starting point is 00:26:53 i know like the basic ones uh-huh where are you at in it it's still pretty early on uh like still i'm still in genesis okay you're doing all i'm just reading the Bible. Wow. It's just Genesis? It's usually, it's very small type. Yeah, I'm actually reading it on an app. The Bible? There are several Bible apps. Oh, yeah. And I'm reading, like, it's called the new
Starting point is 00:27:17 learning one or something, which is supposed to be the easiest, just to understand what's happening. I see. Yeah. And I i'm on like genesis chapter seven or something oh oh yeah because all the books are still a ton of chapters yeah and uh adam and eve are still there but they're like super old but they just had another kid wait so they had another set past they have like cain and abel yeah and then they go through this whole line of people and all this stuff happens.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And then all of a sudden they're like, and then Adam and Eve had another child. Wow. I didn't know about the other kids. A lot of family trees in the Old Testament. Yes. A lot of family trees. It's like this person had this person and this person had this person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Interesting. Did you like skip the baguettes or did you try to read the baguettes? I mean, in this version, it's not as horrible to get through because it's like. Oh, okay. It a more like plain English. They've cut down. Yeah. It's more plain English. But they are saying like, then this person had this and then this guy had two wives.
Starting point is 00:28:13 That was kind of cool. Lamech. And they do a little. Lamech. I don't know how to say his name. He has two wives. They don't care about it. They're just like, he just does.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Wow. Yeah. That's so weird. Is there like modern slang in there to make you understand like you had a side chick yeah yeah yeah they're like that that that song slaps yeah yeah stuff like that there's a lot of tiktok references yeah yeah that would help me if i would yeah i can't get into something unless it talks about tiktok yeah that is yeah i agree with that hit the dab on the pharaoh yeah this guy huge on tiktok and there you go
Starting point is 00:28:46 because that's what they have to do now in movies right for a while like i think he was in chef where you know he got he went viral yeah on youtube oh there's still a lot of people going viral uh in movies joker went viral joker went viral in a very strange way yeah right that has to be a cut scene, right? That there's no mention that they're filming. Yes. And on film. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:12 When you see it, it is still, it is shot really, really nice. Yeah. Yes. That's true. Why didn't they? But I guess it's like, this is too much. No one's going to care. Right?
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. Only like some of these losers who aren't going to like it anyway. Yes. So just fuck it. But yes. Why is there a viral and it does that 70s style talk show play clips often of local bombing comedians why didn't they just say like and you know if tonight we're shooting we're shooting a video for oh so you
Starting point is 00:29:39 can be a star so yeah yeah why not just like a long line of saying yes and then they got it you fixed it right someone was secretly like the loudest like loading magazines of film into it's a light something with that for that kind of camera blasting light in these people's faces like would have noticed he definitely even somebody has messed up in the head as the joker would have noticed maybe the most messed up of all he's Maybe the most messed up of all. He's probably the most messed up of all time. I have top five. Top five, yeah. Well, you guys read the Bible. God is up there too. Yeah, you're gonna meet some real
Starting point is 00:30:12 characters. That list might be shifting. If you want to go on a ride that gets you close enough maybe to touch God, by that I mean it is very tall and it gets you close to heaven. King Kaka is maybe that ride.
Starting point is 00:30:30 That's pretty good, huh? Yeah, that was... I could have done that segue on that tour. You just don't talk to anyone else for the rest of the podcast and you're so proud of it. I did my work. Enjoy some little solo smoke time. I didn't realize that it's still the tallest roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Still the tallest. Lost the title of fastest. It was fastest. It went open tallest and fastest. Fastest now. You probably have it. Yeah. Formula Rosa at Ferrari World.
Starting point is 00:30:58 At Ferrari World. In Dubai. In, yes. Oh, wow. Abu Dhabi, I believe. Oh, okay. Abu Dhabi. Yeah. That ride seems...
Starting point is 00:31:08 That whole place seems really bonkers. We got to get there or something. I don't know when we're... How willing are you guys to go to UAE? Scared. I'll go. That is where my fear sets in. I'm scared to go anywhere, but I'll go. We have to my fear sets in. I'm scared to go anywhere, but I'll go.
Starting point is 00:31:25 We have to go. Scared because if you slip up, you might get thrown in jail? Yes. Yeah. Scared of anywhere where the buildings of the future are built by slaves who have their passports taken away when they enter the country. Sure. And I am on record saying things like that. We're going to edit this out, though, before we go. Okay. Yeah. We're going to have to. And like, I am on record saying things like that.
Starting point is 00:31:45 We're going to edit this out though before we go. Well, okay. Yeah. We're never going to get invited at this rate. We're going to have to comb through a lot of past episodes. There's one episode where you say something about Abu Dhabi. This government is run by insane people. Do we have to cut out references to when I talk about Garfield mailing Nermal to Abu Dhabi?
Starting point is 00:32:03 They're still mad about that. Yeah. They still hate that. They probably don't like that stereotype that it's a place where the cats get mail hated cats although can you imagine if at one of these theme parks in abu dhabi they had a garfield ride and like it started with normal getting out of a box i would be cool that would be the ultimate garfield reference yes Yes. I think they need to do this. We've embraced this. It's literally what most children think about. And when I say children, I mean men in their 30s. So it's still, it was, all right, it's now the fastest coaster in North America.
Starting point is 00:32:42 It is the longest drop in the world still i believe because of the structure of it presumably we will have tweeted out uh the episode art and promo that shows you what the thing looks like but it really is just this straight away and then a big upside down u which involves a corkscrew and then you're and then you're back down, and the rest of it is just kind of like losing speed from how crazy it got. And it's a big launch at the beginning. Yeah. And you're up to the top of that thing within seconds.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Really fast. Zero to 128 miles per hour in 3.5 seconds. So twice as fast as the Hulk. That's zero to 60 seconds. Jesus, wild. Yikes. That's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:30 There's a whole thing on, there's been a runner on this show, a guest Matt Rogers was here and he dubbed me a no launch queen for my inability, me being scared of going on launch coasters. It seems like launches are the coasters of the future it feels like a lot of things have shifted to there was more launching it just seemed
Starting point is 00:33:50 i guess it's probably easier and cheaper for them right to just it's well it's newer tech it's newer tech i feel like yeah so it's still cool it's still pretty cool yeah yeah and if anything they now they've figured out how to do multiple launches, but less intense. Okay. So it's starting to get woven into family. Like you can do coasters now. There's this Harry Potter one in Florida where it slows down for a little bit so you can see some scenes, and then it goes fast again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Yeah, they can control the speed as opposed to just letting something drop from uh yeah tall yeah you'd have to build up like the energy for the coaster up at the top of it yeah and now they can do it a couple times or yeah yeah yeah i was saying with my history with it that i've i've gotten braver have become more of a launch queen but the one that i've stated and we've talked numbers before on the podcast but the one i got freaked out by going on the rock and roller coaster which is this aerosmith themed ride in disney world rock and roll is really just dying this horrible death it's everything yeah everything rock themed and oriented in the last 20 years so bad yeah you understand it's been a harsh exit interview.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Yes. And future generations could scarcely be made guilty for not staying on board with rock music. Yes, based on the last 40 years. Yeah, yeah. It's really heinous what they've done as old men. This morning I watched an interview. I watched Dan Rather interviewing the three members of Styx who stuck around.
Starting point is 00:35:31 The hairstyles on these men. Just age. Just age, guys. You should not have blue hair when you're 70. When I saw Blondie a couple months ago, some of guys have like the wig version of what the hairstyle they had in the 60s was so it'll be like that you know like what keith richards had like he had this big poofy like black hair when they're sick like when he's a young man they just have like a wig version of it and it's so funny because maybe far away if you like kind of squint you're like oh
Starting point is 00:35:59 yeah that's a youngish and then you get close and you're like ah no yeah yeah it's the worst of both worlds yeah these are bands that can't be shot on hd anymore oh yeah yeah or uh or uh what's his name uh the dj uh uh rodney bingenheimer who has another like wig version of his hair from 40 years ago oh right i don't actually know that these guys have wigs i should probably not be slandering them but they still looks terrible yeah chances are they don't listen to podcast the ride like chances from blondie or yeah easier things have happened rodney bingenheimer uh you know but they but so i all right so i went on this one of the sarah smith ride mainly admired the way they were dressed, how many feathers and scarves they were wearing. But then, okay, this one is 0 to 57 in 2.8 seconds.
Starting point is 00:36:49 And that one was like a little out of my comfort zone, going to 57. This one goes to 128. That is how much, that's more than double, right? I couldn't do this fucking thing. I don't, I can, I maybe, I was starting to feel like a launch queen. I don't know if I can say that. The thing with Kingda Ka is everything around it is gravel and metal and fencing. I think the one thing watching that roller coaster video that stuck out was the pleasant
Starting point is 00:37:19 footage to watch is the big bad wolf, which goes through a forest and goes through a little german town recreation or anything at cedar fair which is on a lake but it is crazy how many big roller coasters the like speed and number of loops and stuff was the appeal but then it's just the most industrial looking gravel lots yeah you basically when you get to, the top of the drop in Kingda Ka, you just see like the Six Flags Great Adventure parking lot. Yeah. But it's still pretty cool. Sure.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah. Well, you supposedly from the top, you would have to like really get your bearings immediately. But if you knew where to look, probably if you could like stand on top of that tower for a long time, could see philly i think and maybe even new york yeah and another city it's not occurring what else is that's crazy i think that's all it takes it doesn't seem like it's that tall but i guess it is so 456 feet how tall was like uh uh like i'm thinking of the freedom tower in new york that's that's a thousand feet or
Starting point is 00:38:22 something yeah what are what's, roller coasters or buildings? I don't know. I watched something that said that the Statue of Liberty could fit under King Dakar. Oh, wow. But that's not very tall. The Statue of Liberty is pretty small. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's very big.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And I didn't answer your question because that's a statue. It's tall. Yeah, yeah. To an average woman. Like a structure. For a structure. To an average woman. Like a structure. For a structure. For an impressive structure. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I don't want to just look up building heights, but I'm curious. I should have done this. Buildings versus roller coasters? Ready. Yeah. Well, it's just something to ponder, I guess. No one will ever know the truth. Even though the numbers are there.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Probably a lot of the seven wonders of the world are much shorter than this thing. Let's kick them off. Yeah, like how tall are the pyramids? I don't know. They're probably old and shitty like that book. Like that dirty book. Yeah, the dirty book that's all stuffed in there. Compared to Kingda Ka.
Starting point is 00:39:20 All right. What I want is for a new Kingda Ka style coaster to be built on top of the pyramids yeah i'm actually surprised there isn't a pyramid oh yeah a great pyramid for 481 feet taller than taller than king da ka it's still taller that's a little taller that's a wonder yeah all right you get deserves that but king da ka right on the other side of that parking lot there's wild tiger there's tigers there's a drive-thru safari do they still have the safari i want to say yes they haven't gotten it i want to say the drive-thru safari and we should say it gets cold and like this is
Starting point is 00:39:56 considered central jersey right this park only operates like half of the year and weekends some of the rest of the year. Yes, they have Fright Fest. Yes, and some Christmas stuff, minimal Christmas activities. Freezing. Yeah, it's going to be cold. Are they closing probably now? We're recording this in like late January.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Yeah. So right now you can go. Don't think so. I have a little bit more about tigers because this was part of a, they made a whole area out of Kingda Ka. They made it, they called the golden kingdom, which I guess is the,
Starting point is 00:40:35 it's all kind of themed to like Asian jungles, I suppose. And they, all right. So they, they, they did a tiger show, a Bengal tiger show for a little while in this near kingda ka uh they even named one of the tigers kingda ka in honor like a snake i think i think well yes ka is it sounds
Starting point is 00:40:55 it's the snake it's like king cobra kind of thing yeah and ka from the jungle book is the tiger but i saw news reports saying kingda ka or as it translates to King of Coasters. So if that's true. The ancient word for coasters. I don't think that's right. I think they made that up. Also, another news report says it vaguely translates to lose your lunch. But I think that might have just been a joke.
Starting point is 00:41:20 That's a joke. I think so. That one's a joke. But several pieces of real literature said King of Coasters. So why a tiger named king of coasters yeah not correct shouldn't be yeah anyway there was a show with a trainer where they did tricks and stuff and jumped through hoops and that kind of thing and then they closed the show in 2010 and they seemingly they just moved the tigers to the drive through safari park that you guys referred to. But there is one guy on a message board who was not satisfied with that answer and was assuming the worst. And let me just skim through this message.
Starting point is 00:41:58 All six of the tigers were banished to the safari park, never to see their human companions again. What? That's what he that's what he was worried about not like the welfare of wild animals i know i guess just that you wouldn't they wouldn't get to interact with the trainer and yeah they want to see their friends um but but he also he doesn't know that he could say like at least that's what the park says no one has seen them i mean this is clearly the trainer right that's right oh yeah he's losing his game what is what are you reading this off of again? It's some theme park message board.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'm not sure what it was. You don't remember the name? It might have been Theme Park Insider. Okay. But so he keeps going, and he's blaming the guy who was running this park at the time, John Fitzgerald. John Fitzgerald closed Temple of the Tiger and fired the trainers for wanting to mate the tigers. The biological clock is ticking.
Starting point is 00:42:43 It was a now or never situation. She may be pregnant. If so, will the park have the cubs aborted? Oh my God. Wow. That's a leap. Isn't it? Why is this man,
Starting point is 00:42:58 John Fitzgerald, head of Six Flags, is going to press a button, have the cubs aborted. I love the idea of someone giving a tiger an abortion. Bring me my Tweety Bird Sunday and have the tigers killed.
Starting point is 00:43:13 This is worthwhile for us. In a facility, yes, with Sylvester the Cat smiling down. In New Jersey. That is a sort of tri-state area passion. Yes. It's a good old-fashioned new jersey tiger abortion but but also then there's videos recently of tiger cubs they still there's tiger cubs running around this place all the time so and that's now in 2020 so why did this guy jump
Starting point is 00:43:39 to i don't i'm gonna kill the cubs i think that's theory that it's the trainer, it might not be wrong. Yeah. He knows too. He knows so much. Someone's got to kill the Cubs. This is a warning. This is a warning. Someone with a high-powered rifle, full metal jacket. Did anyone respond to that post on the message board? That I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:59 It could be Googled. If you want to do the further end to my, I believe Theme Park Insider. Look for, yeah, look for John Fitzgerald just google john fitzgerald temple of the tiger uh cubs aborted so there there's been some changes they still have a safari uh park um here you could sing kingda ka in the distance wow this is a massive off-road like vehicle that you you ride in to do it they also offer vip options or school group options like the vip options it's just like an suv park next to a giraffe this did right there's no white g that's that's aJ's Bronco. But in the 90s, you could get in your, in my family's case, your Plymouth minivan, and you would follow a road, a paved road through the safari park and get pretty close to the
Starting point is 00:44:55 animals to the point where like, please remove your antennas or take them down or else the monkeys that crawl on your car will ruin your life. It will destroy. First off, they sometimes go crazy and beat up the cars anyway, but animals would rip off antennas. And I believe people have been mauled there. Really? Yes, I think there are lions.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Oh, my God. And tigers now. Yeah, I think people have been mauled. They should have killed them in 2010. They're like, don't feed the animals. And people immediately like, what if we brought food and tried to give it to them? Please remain in your car, ladies and gentlemen. Please remain in your car.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Oh, I'm getting out. Yeah, I got to get out. I got to get this now. What if I get close? Yeah. Got to feed them some Jersey Mike's. I got two exposures left on this disposable. Get them, honey.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Oh, no. He's whacking me Get them, honey. Oh, no. He's whacking me with my own antenna. The subs gave him strength. Any clues? I looked up the gentleman's username, and it does say he's a seasoned pass holder at Six Flags. Could still be the trainer. Technically correct. They're not mutually exclusive at all i found there's a there's a post here from somebody who said he was posted a video of what got the temple of the tiger closed that's
Starting point is 00:46:10 right the tiger's caught in the act looks real dangerous to me not and then it has this does feel like spurned trainer so i will look up the youtube link here 125 they gave me a time code the video is unavailable no damn as a tiger trainer if at a certain point they're like hey you can't we can't have this show anymore people don't like this stuff like you know treating animals this way anymore what do you do after that like what does he do for his next job skills yes he had to Maybe some shady circus could hire, or he could just, is it just like he becomes a particularly cruel like child actor trainer?
Starting point is 00:46:51 Yeah. I'll make sure they hit their marks. Foreign country or something where they don't care as much. Where rules are more lax. Yeah. When is the Siegfried and Roy accident? Is that the number one job
Starting point is 00:47:03 if you're a tiger trainer in the mid-2000s is being on team to be on the team oh yeah yeah it's gotta be i think so i mean just the the uh glamour alone of yeah do you yeah you get issued like a big white fur when you get that's your uniform rolling in with those guys to like a uh casino uh. Could there be anything better? Yeah, that's it. Can you imagine the two of them? That's everyone's dream. High to their power.
Starting point is 00:47:28 You're walking around in their entourage. You're like Johnny Drama in the Siegfried and Roy entourage. And you get to scoop like eggs and bacon from the buffet with like a diamond encrusted ladle all over you. You can get your own. Yeah. And the MGM Grand large cats were different than the Siegfried and
Starting point is 00:47:48 Roy ones. Is that correct? A lot of cats in Vegas. A lot of cats in Vegas. All of them now prowling the city for their next meal. Out you go. Good luck. A lot of food for Tiger. Knows where to find it. You know what we haven't talked about?
Starting point is 00:48:05 It's just like, what did this thing feel like? How did you feel after you did it? Yeah. It rocked. It's a great ride. Oh, man. It was very fun. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I mean, it is very short. Yeah, it seems like, yeah, it's up and down, but it's a crazy up and down. It's just a crazy up and down. I liked it because it was so fast and so smooth, and that when you're done with it, you don't feel sick or anything. And I definitely wanted to go back, like, get in line again, but it always had the longest line. Oh, sure. Yeah. So you hit up the other rides and then maybe come back later.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Oh, sure. Makes sense. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, especially on like a chilly night for the Fright Fest in New Jersey, shooting up there like with the cold wind in your face. Wow. Whoa. Felt really good. I've said this before.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I think the launch, like this actually, as much as it looks scary, is a lot less scary psychologically than like Hangtime, which is a knots coaster that droops you over for like what feels like a minute pauses it makes you pause it goes up 90 degrees slowly which makes you feel like you're gonna fall off that then it hangs you and then it does a regular thing like this seems like it's so fast it's in crazy intense but it doesn't destroy your brain well that with the drop there's this slight corkscrew and i think it was because like to slow it down or something or right and it makes like the drop more tolerable but you do get a second of looking down at it but at that height it's unfathomable like what's going on so you're like i don't know this seems
Starting point is 00:49:35 fun yes you can't you're you wouldn't even know what you were experiencing say you were to get launched off this thing you know like sure if the if the straps didn't work oh yeah and you just like fell off i don't think you'd really be able to process it no it would be fine everything would be fine yeah yeah oh yeah you would land on your feet and walk just land on a tiger's yeah yeah all right tweety bird sundays for everyone yes yeah do they have those i don't know well i'll tell you what they did in the mid-90s. Six Flags did have, like, Come Back If The Rain Was Really Bad.
Starting point is 00:50:11 They would give you return tickets. Sure. That's cool. But they called them Twickets. Like Tweeting Bird. And I remember I had to write, like, how I spent my summer vacation, and I wrote about Six Flags and wrote that detail in,
Starting point is 00:50:26 and the teacher circled it as a spelling error, and I had to go to them and go, that's actually what they call it. It's not a spelling error. I am correct. Wait, you told the teacher this? Yeah. And what did the teacher say?
Starting point is 00:50:40 She docked points because of Twickets. I'm like, no, I won. It's a brandish. I won, yeah. And so she was like, i apologize i i had not heard of twickets yeah yeah exactly did you explain like do you know how okay you know tweety bird right tweety bird talks a certain way like it's like tweety bird yeah okay i would love a video of this. Of 10-year-old me going, all right, Twickets. We gotta settle up, okay? I want a public apology
Starting point is 00:51:11 in front of the entire class. And an acknowledgement that I'm cool for going to places like Six Flags. Yeah. Wow. Twickets. I didn't know about Twickets. Yeah, I did not know about Twickets.
Starting point is 00:51:23 That's amazing. If you recall Twickets, I was not... Will you Google Twickets really fast, I did not know about Twickets. If you know, if you recall Twickets, I was not. Will you Google Twickets? I know, I'm going to Google it. Oh, I'm praying it's wrong. I'm praying it doesn't exist. I'm praying I have elucidated it. The Wikipedia page is just like, these were a spelling error
Starting point is 00:51:38 on a third grade. On one batch of tickets one summer. Why did they write a whole Wikipedia article about that? The first thing that comes up is there's a company in the United Kingdom that I think is a resale. Okay. Called Twickets? I mean, they call like candy bars Twickets over there or whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:56 What? They call everything like, you know. Everything's something stupid. Everything's something different. All right. It's a boot, not a trunk. Twicket, Six Flags. And it goes to the.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Hold on. Oh, wait a minute. I'm not doubting it. I just want more. Yeah. Yeah. Details. Here's a message board.
Starting point is 00:52:16 This is from 2010. My boyfriend and I were at Six Flags Great America a couple weeks ago, and we knew we would be back in October. His uncle happened to remember the Twicket promotion they used to offer yeah where you could upgrade your ticket for an extra 20 before you left to be good for another day of admission like a different twicket so that's a different twicket that's what it was because we went back and then the day we went back we got rained out and so with the rain out so ended up going to Six Flags three times. The first thing,
Starting point is 00:52:48 you had to twick it, took the twick it, but were rained out. Yes. Then you went back to reuse the twick it again. In the fall, Fright Fest season, it would be cold or it would be rainy,
Starting point is 00:52:59 but the crowds were very low. It wouldn't run like the Lethal Weapon stunt show or the Batman Forever stunt show. Yes. It wouldn't run like the Lethal Weapon Stunt Show or the Batman Forever Stunt Show. Yeah, and like compared to Universal Studios out here with the Horror Nights, the Fright Fest was like really low rent. Yeah, pretty small. There were like a few zombies here and there.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Mages? Were there full? No. Nothing like that. Like no haunted houses. It was just like, it's dark outside and we're gonna have a few people scare you every once in a while but overall like you could avoid them easily
Starting point is 00:53:30 whereas at horror nights like you're gonna get spooked no matter what those guys are they're gunning for you yeah there's like real full oh my god yeah it's just yeah yeah but just maybe like with zombies and you maybe see four zombies your whole night at Fright Fest. Maybe, and it's like, if we just walk fast enough, they won't bother us. They're not going to come after us.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Because they walk slow. Yeah, they have to walk slow, and they don't feel like doing it either. To build it up. Whereas here... I think it's a little bigger now. Out there? Yeah, at all of them.
Starting point is 00:54:00 All of them, yeah. Duplicate the Fright Fest stuff. Yes, yeah, and just... I feel like all of the actors and makeup artists in Los Angeles that have probably the free time around Halloween to go all out, they really do a great job. Oh, yeah. Whereas Fright Fest is New Jersey people that are probably hired to do another job there and they're like, you got to be a zombie tonight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And they're like, all right. I'm at Fright Fest here. I'm at the Haunted at fright fest here i'm at the haunted hayride here yeah yeah they did when we went to fright fest uh in october there was a maze um that if you recall had a massive pile of shit in it it was it was not real it was that's part of the narrative of the sewer maze okay they're like guys we have to be honest like this is a sewer there needs to be a big yes they want it to be very just imagine that can we just let them know yes they're in a sewer it's like nope nope nope they're in a sewer we gotta see they wanted to see you to experience the horror of the plumbing system they wanted you to know yes like how like. What a nightmare. How underpaid, how underfinanced the sewer system can be.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yeah. Yeah. And that was a 3D one. We had to wear 3D glasses. And it showed you all the numbers at the end of like how much it costs to run the sewer system.
Starting point is 00:55:15 How much. Underfunded. Facts of hourly rates. Which administration's gutted the funding for it. The year of the last pay raise. They're like, oh, the horrors.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I'm terrified. Clinton was president. Poor infrastructure. So long ago. So, there have been incidents on this attraction.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Mostly has run pretty safe. Actually, we should tell you, this is not an incident, but it is an oddity about this ride uh and i was trying to remember if we if we talked about this aspect with your wife kelly a while back that there the strangest thing about this ride that you can they tell you before you get on that there is a possibility of rollbacks that if you you could make it all the way to the top and like sit there for a minute and then not quite crest that hill and then roll all the way backwards and have to do it again never seen that before really weird never has to be the only the
Starting point is 00:56:18 only roller coaster where they tell you there's the possibility that it might not do what it's supposed to do make it up yeah i think that little casey jr might not think i can it's way up there's versions of it i think on hagrid's i think i could be totally wrong but the new harry potter coaster where they it does sometimes like that'll roll you back and you do the launch again in certain sections it could be totally wrong i'll cut this out to make myself not look stupid if i'm wrong but so i like there is something like that but this seems like such a crazy yeah you might go like 430 feet yeah you might miss it by five feet yeah because that's what yeah in the examples i saw it seems like it does get up there and then just doesn't have the forward momentum anymore right you do you do the entire thing which if i were like if if if i were coerced into going on
Starting point is 00:57:06 this thing and i did it begrudgingly and then i made it up oh phew we made it up wait a minute what the fuck we have to go down backwards and then do it one more time yeah uh that's bad news for me yeah i that that is i don't know if it's just because like it's a basic some sort of basic version of whatever the launch is where it's like it's not a perfected system. It kind of just seems like it's just like some peg that grabs you. It just hooks it, and it shoots you up, and sometimes it misses by a couple. It must be that they wanted to make it so tall to get the world record or something,
Starting point is 00:57:39 that it's like, all right, we're pushing it here. We probably could have lowered it by 10 feet and gotten it right every time, but we need to say gotten it right every time. But we need that. We need to say that it's the tallest. A little bump up, and then they start running tests, and like, well, it mostly does it. Pretty good. Well, they haven't really replicated it anywhere,
Starting point is 00:57:57 and I'm wondering if it's just like, yeah, it's not worth the headache. This was in the news a lot. These incidents you have, Scott, the local news every now and then would be like, well, Trouble at Six Flags yet again with King Da Ka. Something would happen. Yes, no one has died on this one.
Starting point is 00:58:20 There's a more infamous story. There was a fire in a haunted attraction in the eighties that led to a massive court case and new laws about like instruct, inspecting dark attractions or dark businesses, like businesses where your vision is obscured. But that did not happen with this. The incidents are odd, but like no one grievously injured yeah well there's the oddest one probably is that uh one time a couple years ago uh this
Starting point is 00:58:55 coaster pulled a fabio by that i mean somebody got hit in the face by a bird uh like some kid like like a 12 year old or something i don't know at what point the most famous bird hit incident and this one wasn't as like cool to look at the fabio one was so crazy yeah there's like this blood coming out of his nose although but it seems like maybe the thing just wasn't photographed because the it seems like it didn't the kid who got hit in the face wasn't that affected it It just hurt a little bit and I think he did have to like you know get some money from Six Flags but he said that
Starting point is 00:59:29 he described it as the bird exploded and the people behind him just had feather and guts all over their faces. This is like a cartoon. Yes. Yeah. The Fabio was like he got hit with the pointy beak like busted him open his i
Starting point is 00:59:45 think was a bigger bird too i believe this was a pigeon yeah and fabio was like a goose it was like something big and grand should be canadian goose i know the rare is the last one oh no i know this is the i know the answer to this but we should do an whole episode on just fabio getting hit in the head with a bird right oh yeah we thought of that we got to see what the date well actually i have the date 90 minutes like subruder film of it last year was the anniversary we should have done it for 19 for 2019 oh what's the date i don't have the date it just says 1999 oh this is the solemn event we should like take a minute of silence. I pulled the Philadelphia Inquirer had a story about it.
Starting point is 01:00:31 I couldn't tell if it was from the Inquirer or the Daily News because I think they merged at some point. But a detail in this, the boy's name was Shane. Shane said that he was briefly distracted by the sound of an alarm and turned his head to the right, which is when the bird collided with the side of his head. Had he not, the bird could have hit him in the eyes.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Oh my God. So he happened to look away and got hit in the side of the head. Jeez, do we know what kind of, we don't know what kind of bird. Scott said it was a pigeon. Oh, you said it was a pigeon. A common pigeon.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah. I'd like to think that maybe at that speed, maybe this is too fantastical to happen in the real world, but maybe it would have been a fly kind of scenario where he- Became a pigeon? Yeah. Like, yeah, gets pigeon powers or something. Yeah, yeah. Vines.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I don't know what it is. It's just, it's so, yeah, you're saying it's so fast. Like the Hulk. Like the Hulk cannon. Right. Yeah. Yeah, the molecules get f're saying it's so fast. Like the Hulk. Like the Hulk cannon. Right. Yeah. Yeah, the molecules get fused together. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I don't know. It seems like a good origin story to someone. Something. That's pretty good. We should follow that one away. A roller coaster. Yeah. I don't know what pigeon powers you would want, but maybe none.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Flying? Flying. Flying. Yeah. Okay, so you get to fly. Maybe you would also somehow get roller coaster powers. Because you're also the dna of a okay so i am now a roller coaster pigeon creature so like then he could like launch him
Starting point is 01:01:54 you know like he can oh in a bound yeah yeah like he launches himself go get he He has the power of magnets. He can launch 0 to 128 in 3.5 seconds. And then he can kind of fly a little bit. A little bit, yeah. Now, keep in mind, he stinks, but remember the launch part. And also, he doesn't always get all the way up. Sometimes he comes back down. Sometimes he immediately falls back down backwards.
Starting point is 01:02:19 He's shitting constantly. So, decent powers. Others are lesser. It comes out in the wash. Fabio was specifically a goose hit him. Was a goose. Wow, I got it right. He was a goose.
Starting point is 01:02:31 The end of the article about Kingda Ka, the boy getting hit on Kingda Ka, does mention the Fabio story, and I think it's worthwhile reading this summary. But a similar incident in 1999 bloodied the famous face of Italian model Fabio Lanzoni, the erstwhile margarine pitch man. He was riding Apollo's chariot at Busch Gardens in Williamsburg, Virginia, when a goose crashed into his face as the roller coaster sped into a 210-foot drop. He couldn't believe it wasn't butter.
Starting point is 01:03:06 What? That is the last line of the article. A major newspaper of the time. How is a goose? Exactly. The goose was not butter. The goose wasn't butter. He loved doing those ads so much and was so locked into it that he questioned whether
Starting point is 01:03:30 everything in his life was butter. Makes sense. The erstwhile margarine pitch man. The erstwhile margarine pitch man. Puts it up with a past episode, the head of a guy who owns a park in Asia was described as a mercurial casino magnet that's a good cousin yeah it's a good question while marjorie and pitchman oh you're a you're in a dunkin donuts commercial we can describe you as an erstwhile donut pitchman well show
Starting point is 01:03:58 yeah enthusiastic current or donut enthusiast a pitchman makes it really seem like it's your product and you're trying to get it out into the world billy mays style yes i'm yeah come on get this hot sauce off the shelves like fabio is really like margarine like it's it's the new thing he consulted with the food scientists yeah make the recipe to his liking. It sounds like an elixir. You know, it's like Fabio and Sons selling an elixir of some kind. That's a pitch man in my mind. Yeah. You want your hair to be luxurious like mine? Yeah, right, right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:35 And then it gives it to weird shirt guy, an old lady, and they all end up with Fabio. Yes, yes, exactly. Like, I got to buy this now. That's a pretty good ad campaign. Did they have margarine commercials anymore? I feel like I haven't seen a margarine commercial in a while. I feel like Brummel and Brown was the one with yogurt.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Remember that one? No. Remember Brummel and Brown? The jingle? Jason, name your top five favorite margarines. Brummel and Brown. It's got yogurt blended right in with creamy taste of butter. Wait, you're saying this is modern?
Starting point is 01:05:08 No, it's from his childhood in the 30s. Late 90s. This feels made up, though. That song didn't rhyme. Yeah, do the song again. I mean, that was an excerpt. I don't remember the full song. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:18 There was more to it. Yeah, there's more. Were you a margarine family growing up? Every now and then we'd get brumlin brown but i think mostly from the um uh uh the the jingle but is that a is that a local margarine i don't know i think those are dash so i've never heard of that margarine that's the song the man sang who delivered it to your door the margarine man the margarine man the erst The margarine man. The erstwhile margarine pitch man that would go to your home.
Starting point is 01:05:47 The erstwhile margarine pitch man. Brumlinbrown.com creamy yogurt spread. Creamy butter spreads. Deliciously creamy. Made with real yogurt. That logo's real low rent. Let me see the logo. This was on the packaging.
Starting point is 01:06:04 It's like how Land O'Lakes makes spreadable butter now. Doesn't that feel like Let me see the logo. No way. This was like on the packaging. Okay. Let me. Sorry. It's like how Land O'Lakes makes spreadable butter now. Doesn't that feel like. I don't know. I just don't like that graphic design. The design looks like it was made on Microsoft Paint. It hasn't changed since 1999. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 01:06:17 That was the logo. That's probably what they made it in. While we're talking about jingles, what I remember very clearly about Six Flags Great Adventure, they got a lot of life. Batman on the Ride gave them commercial footage for like a decade. That loop where you go on the outside, your legs are dangling. But the radio ad for a while would end with a jingle that just went, Six Flags Great Adventure, we had fun.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Oh, yes. Yeah, yes. That was it. That was the, like, someone Great Adventure, we had fun. Oh, yes. That was it. Someone's like, I got it. I figured it out, gang. I guess it's inoffensive. It's inoffensive. Yeah, you wanted people to have fun. We had fun. Not fine.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Past tense. Like you went. Even though you're watching an ad encouraging you to go. Right. You're hearing from people who went. So I guess, yeah, the idea was like they're telling you we had fun, so you should go and do it as well. But they don't mention that part. But they don't say that.
Starting point is 01:07:14 But that should be left to assume. They don't even mention they're going back or if they would go back. Yeah, we had fun. It's just a commercial for advertising people that were like happy, satisfied with the experience. The experience overall was satisfactory. That's nice. Satisfactory. And then back to your life.
Starting point is 01:07:30 15 seconds, you know, like new for 2005. Kingda Khan for 20 bucks. You can add Wild Safari Park. Six legs, great adventure. We have fun. You're a little like five second fill in. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:41 But why not we have fun? No, we had. We went. Those people went and had fun. Like they went and they had fun. don't we have fun no we had we went those people went like they went but why not we had fun i think we have fun is weird i don't know where that's coming from yeah because that almost seems like the people yeah it's like we'll have fun anywhere yeah you'll have swingers or something you'll have fun you'll have fun you'll have fun oh you'll have fun might have been maybe that seems like a pushy or something john draper all of a sudden in here yeah you'll have fun seems like it's like come on you'll have
Starting point is 01:08:09 fun go come on come on where's the other one it's like you don't have you take my word for it if you want i had a good time you don't have to go but then you're like i want to go these guys had a good time and they're playing it so cool they're playing it very cool they won't describe what happened they're not even telling me to do it. No, yeah. Let's check it out. Yeah. Let's go to Jackson.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I think that's the town that I was in. I guess that's like playing it cool with somebody you want to date or something. Yeah. It's like, don't be sweaty. Don't be desperate. Hey, we had fun. It seems like you're avoiding something. Let's just see where it goes.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Let's just see where it goes. It seems like something horrible happened. It's like see where it goes It seems like something horrible happened We had fun Well Shane had a thing But he's okay He's okay Shane had a thing but we had fun It would be so much different if it was
Starting point is 01:08:58 Six Flags Great Adventure but we had fun But we had fun Nevertheless we had fun. But we had fun. Nevertheless, we had fun. We had fun. Don't ask Shane. He's okay. Most of the family had fun. This riot is currently, there's an incident currently in progress, like in the month that we were recording this oh my god uh somebody was horribly injured involving kingda ka but not on the ride so kingda ka was like an accomplice essentially and more so the teenagers working
Starting point is 01:09:38 kingda ka what happened was uh the guy was getting on the ride, and he didn't know what to do with his cell phone. Like, I got to put this somewhere. And do they not have lockers? Okay, so this happens in a lot of things where it's very confusing because they have cubby holes, at least in Magic Mountain. So you're supposed to dump your phone just out in the open in a cubby hole and anything else you have. And there's a, at least on the the hang time or not hang time uh what's the one i always forget twisted colossus there is a a little like envelope to put something in front of you and usually at disney it's like you can put like a bag in at the one here at six flags
Starting point is 01:10:17 you could put like a manila folder and it was so tight your documents you could put in documents not more than five or six you could slide those in front but anything else you had on your person you had to go just throw in like a cubby hole as if you were taking your shoes off to get in a ball pit the cubby hole system implemented before people carried around thousand dollar phones with them i guess that's a good point yes but they don't have like i think maybe one or two right no and riddler's revenge at magic mountain too it was just like go throw all your shit on a table and then go back onto the ride not a bad system but yeah there's something worrisome yeah or should i leave it there on
Starting point is 01:10:58 the table table works fine knowing that you have many groups of people will pass by the open table while I'm in the sky. Knott's had a thing for Pony Express. They have the cubbies as well, but they close the cubbies once you've all put them in and then have the other cubbies load when you come back. So at least like, you know. Some sense of privacy and security. Yeah, a sense. A sense. I mean, ultimately, it's still a cubby.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Which is all, honestly, we have in this life. Yes. That's all we need. Yeah, a sense. A sense. I mean, ultimately, it's still a cubby. Which is all, honestly, we have in this life. Yes. That's all we need. Uh-oh, someone else didn't read that good book. Yeah, it's all we have is a sense of his greatness. Let's just follow it. Now you get one of these quotes. You got the quotes at your disposal. I think
Starting point is 01:11:42 this ride figured out the worst possible system because a man asked what do i do with my phone and the guy said i don't know go put it in the bamboo over there yes as the official six flags employee responds and nearby there's a little patch of bamboo perhaps because this is like an asian jungle themed area so he went and like hid it under some foliage and then he went on the ride and then he got off and like okay go retrieve my phone and the bamboo and his full shoe stepped right through a sharp piece of bamboo oh my god through his foot like through the shoe through the foot, required stitches.
Starting point is 01:12:26 The article I was reading had the reminder that sharpened bamboo on the ground was used by Vietnamese soldiers against American soldiers during the Vietnam War. They said that in the article? Yeah, they reminded you just like... How sharp it is. Yeah, just as an indicator,
Starting point is 01:12:42 this was meant to uh destroy the killing power of uh soldiers and in this case a just a man trying to go on a roller coaster and so he's suing the park as we speak and we'll see how it plays out but what in the fucking world go hide your food your phone in the bamboo wow it could i i could see uh every different employee having a different place for you to put your shit like no there's no unified like what they first of all the kid when we tried when my friend and i when anthony geo and i were on uh twisted colossus we had like collectors mugs from the press events like skull stein investments yeah i have them in there and they were the same ones as the one at universal so they all had the same like clear light up skull mug vendor essentially so we were
Starting point is 01:13:34 like like taking calipers to the skull mug it's like measure yeah well they're different slightly different sizes but the same skull design from both universal and six flags so there's a man or a company i hope it's just a man who makes all these uh one person uh but yeah we tried to get the employee to take them because we didn't we assume we'd just be able to put them in the thing in front but it was only for six pieces of paper so we were like oh here here title could you take them because we were we title. Could you take them? Registration. Because we were like, could you take these? And he's like, I'm not allowed to touch anything. Anything. So we're like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Not even the button to start the coaster? Nope. So I'm handing Anthony all my stuff because he has to now get out and go over to the area. So I could see every single person. Also, maybe the kid was just saying, I don't want to do this shit. You do it. Yeah, it's probably partially a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Yeah, because is there really some legal thing where it's like, we can't sue Six Flags if we're the one who puts it down on the dirty table? Right, yeah. But if this kid puts it down on the dirty table and it breaks or somebody steals it, then we can sue? I could see an older employee telling it, he's's like just don't touch anything okay because like so and so got in trouble just if someone asked just don't do it you know like it's not company policy yeah
Starting point is 01:14:51 it's like unspoken like just don't just say you can't you're in the clear if you don't touch it yeah yeah yeah trust me like you'll make it farther if you just don't touch stuff it's on the throat in the bamboo so yeah so like in the boo whatever like table they had set up here in that situation it was full maybe yeah i guess it's like i don't know just go throw in the bamboo over there and he's like landscaping the decorative landscaping put it in the tiger nest i like that if you put in the tiger nest the tigers will protect it while you're on the ride they'll think it's one of their eggs. They'll think it's a tiger egg. They'll sit on it.
Starting point is 01:15:25 They'll keep the phone warm. Yeah, yeah. No one's going to abort them. It's fine. As soon as you come back. We don't know that. Yeah, yeah. We haven't gotten confirmation.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. When I went to a Mets game once, I had a metal water bottle with me in my backpack. And they were like, you can't bring that in there. And I was like, it's just a water bottle. he the guy he was like just go hide in the bushes uh like outside of like a major league baseball stadium and i did and it worked out for me when i got back i mean i guess it's not the same thing that someone well i guess this guy his phone didn't get taken he just got his foot he just got his foot impaled. He just got his foot fucked up. But the phone, but that's what
Starting point is 01:16:05 they're arguing in court. Like, but did you get your phone back? Case closed. Your big Android phone was there. That is interesting. He did get his phone back. He just got his foot messed up. We're supposed to pity this
Starting point is 01:16:21 guy. You got your phone. What's the problem? You got your phone back, buddy. You'll walk someday. I wonder it was like an like you could see a situation where he would be like i can't it's my phone i don't want to just leave it on the table or in this cubby hole like what do we do well then hide it some i don't know hide it somewhere right yeah fucking hide the phone right now everybody else is doing it look buddy i'm hitting the button on the coaster in 45 seconds you fucking go over and do something or you're just we're leaving without you. I would imagine it probably sounded like that. Listen, pal.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Coke leaves in 45 seconds. Yeah. You got three point five seconds to get up to speed. If you miss it, he's got his hand on the button to watch me. I'll put it. I'll do it. Yeah. I'll fucking do it right now.
Starting point is 01:17:02 It's Lauren. It's Lauren. Oh, fuck you. I'll fucking go. I'll touch it. I'll fucking do it right now, buddy. It's lowering. It's lowering. Oh, fuck you. I'll fucking go walk in the bamboo. You really want to stand in that line again? That's 20 minutes. That's 20 minutes of your life you never get back. That's how long it takes for my mom to make a pasta.
Starting point is 01:17:20 I could be eating right now. I could have spaghetti. I'm standing in the line again. My mom's gravy. All the people on the roller coaster are like, go to the fucking bamboo. Just fucking walk in the bamboo. We're trying to ride here.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Gotta get to Sunday dinner. We got places to be. Grandma's making a gravy. Get on the Kingda Ka. I got so much time. I got to get on King of the Car. Just go in the booth so we can go to the sky already. The guy leans over, tries to hit the go button.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I'm doing it. I'm fucking doing it. One. What I love about Great Adventure in general is just imagining everyone there having New Jersey accents, which is true. Oh, yeah. imagining everyone there having new jersey accents which is true oh yeah it's just like it's so crazy to me that they're investing millions of dollars into these roller coasters and stuff for just a bunch of new jersey people as a new jersey person it was fascinating to me with that real new jersey humidity too in the summer yes yeah i know it is it's such an odd
Starting point is 01:18:22 place for a theme park but i guess there's really really no great places to put a thing that doesn't belong. To have a drive-through safari in New Jersey. That's the craziest to me. It's like, really? Are you guys checking to see if the temperatures and the climate are okay? It's fine. It's not.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Whatever. He looks fine to me. You're going to see a fucking gorilla. You're going to see a fucking giraffe. If they get out of line, we'll shoot them. It'll be fine. All right. All right. He'll live. He'll be, he looks fine to me. You're gonna see a fucking gorilla, you're gonna see a fucking giraffe, if they get out of line, we'll shoot them. It'll be, all right,
Starting point is 01:18:48 all right, on your way. Did they say where they got the animals from, even? Don't worry about it. My cousin, my cousin. Not your problem.
Starting point is 01:18:54 They fell off the truck. I don't know, I didn't open it, it was, there was stakes, there was animals in there when I got there. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:03 When I left, when I got there. We gotta put them in a field. I'm not gonna there when I got there. Yeah, yeah. But I left for when I got there. We got to put them in a field. I'm not going to keep them in my apartment. Yeah, he's going to lower the value of my Jersey Shore house if I leave them in the yard there. The more he stomps around. Giraffe tracks.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Can't have that. All over the lawn. There's one more thing I have to say about this place that I didn't realize until now also kind of adds to the Jersey-ishness of it, which is that I was reading the article about the bamboo impaling the man's foot, and it had a picture of the car, of the coaster car itself towards the end of the ride. And, you know, as we know, Six Flags is not crazy deep, but detailed with the theming. They are not going to like make this like, you know, all right.
Starting point is 01:19:53 So you're in like a jungle. It's not a coaster car. It's a safari vehicle and you're going to climb aboard. It's just it is a coaster car. It's slightly it's named something jungle-ish. But so the the coaster car, I noticed thing it's named something uh jungle-ish uh but so the the coaster car i noticed on the side of it is just a decal for got to be glued hair spiking glue excuse me whoa wait so there's ads on the cars apparently yeah that was happening when i was
Starting point is 01:20:20 there maybe this is a new thing this is this photo this article was from 2020 so this could be brand new wow yes hair gel yeah got to be glued which and and it has photos of yeah it's not just people with spiked it's not just people who like make their hair a little tall it's full-on big old spikes and as i say it i'm realizing super situationy oh yeah right yeah okay i know this i've seen this brand. I don't use Got2Beglued, but I have seen it in the store. It's not a household name like a Brummel and Brown.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Brummel and Brown's yogurt spread? Well, butter with yogurt mixed in for creaminess. Got2Beglued. We got yogurt in there, too. Some yogurt. Helps us stick. Really weird.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Not very strange. Already a bright blue and orange and green car. There's a guy on this bottle that looks like Mark McGrath. Also the Sugar Ray. I guess you're going to see the car, the coaster car, as you get on it, but overall people
Starting point is 01:21:19 it's going so fast it's not necessarily like a good advertising location. Only track would maybe. Maybe if a pigeon was keeping up with it and going at the same speed, they might be able to read the ad. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Well, a pigeon isn't going to buy a hairstyling gel. No. They got no hair. A pigeon got no hair. Maybe this guy that becomes part pigeon, part coaster. Oh, yes. The man use the hair gel for something. He's like, I got the DNA of that, too.
Starting point is 01:21:54 It's to make his hair into antennas to find out when people need help. Great. Great. Done. It's a very clean superhero. Yeah. Six Flags, honestly, they should just go all out and put ads on every ride vehicle. Yeah, it's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah. That is pretty good. May as well. Just what kind of like integrity? No. Yeah. Like they should have like Bugs Bunny in like a shirt for like a local like salon or something. Just like whatever you have.
Starting point is 01:22:22 $500 to have Bugs Bunny wear a shirt. Who cares? For like a month of your business for a Chinese restaurant like a tinted tinted windows business like when they tint windows and Bugs is wearing the shirt for like easy tint medical supply
Starting point is 01:22:36 yeah do you think that because there will be a new Space Jam movie coming out oh yeah at some point in the next couple years will more people go to will that bump up some six flag sales i wonder are they they'll probably have some it is kind of the only place where you can potentially go meet uh bugs bugs yeah you don't see them otherwise yeah i don't know if they have a costume of uh of bab no not babs what's the babs
Starting point is 01:23:01 lola bunny she'll probably show up, though. Yeah. If she's back for the new Space Jam. She's got to be back. I did actually read that she's back. I did recently get curious what is up with Space Jam 2, and there's very little info except that Bugs and Lola are back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:21 You read that on Deadline? Lola Bunny signed for her. Told you Lola is back. Confirmed. Repped by ICM. Yeah, like Brad and Jen with their SAG Awards backstage laughing. Bugs and Lola are back. Oh, Bugs and Lola still get along after the divorce.
Starting point is 01:23:41 So nice. Good. Something we haven't mentioned, in May of 2009, Kingda Ka was struck by lightning. Wow. And it closed until August 21st, 2009. So pretty much the summer season.
Starting point is 01:23:56 It was out of, it reopened for like a Labor Day. Wait, what did the lightning do? Just the idea of being struck by lightning? It made it faster. It caused enough damage. It was damaged in Hurricane Irene, too. Jesus. In 2011.
Starting point is 01:24:11 It's only going to get worse. Yeah. Climate change. It's got to happen. This one's probably not going to make it as long as other rides make it. Yeah. Or Kingda Ka. Well, but maybe it'll be when the sea levels rise it'll be sticking out much farther
Starting point is 01:24:26 than most rides so as the world is ending it's one of the few rides yeah we'll still be able to go you have to board underwater yeah where do i put my phone and the starfish the rollback no i don't want the rollback the rollback would be very bad the rollback. Yeah, the rollback would be very bad. The rollback is essentially like a big waterboard. Being waterboarded on Kingda Ka. Wow. Kudos to you, Kingda Ka, the one ride that will survive. Yeah. As well as, did you guys realize that there's also then a drop ride attached
Starting point is 01:24:57 to Kingda Ka? There's like also... Oh, because it's so tall? Yeah, they put... They had it built for a few years and then added another ride just like look at all the space we're not using yeah that's pretty efficient they they did this to superman and magic mountain as well which superman is a big crazy launch thing and then it goes back down it's not like king da ka but then they just added like lex luther's drop of doom to the side so they just plaster a different ride to the side of Ride. So that's the thing there.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Oh, which, and Lex Luthor Ride was the biggest drop, and now it's this thing, which is called, oh, the name's good. I want to get it. Is it got to be like another jungly? It sure is, yes.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Zumanjaro. Wow. Does it say what that means? No, but I saw a, this must have been the Wikipedia or something. Somewhere I found the quote. The name Zumanjaro has African influences. Influences?
Starting point is 01:25:52 So it's like... But also just the word Zoom in there, I guess. Okay. Manjaro because that's Kilimanjaro? That's the African influence? Yes. Okay. And the rest is referring to Zooming.
Starting point is 01:26:05 So weird. So I guess also the only two rides that will make it. Right. It won't be as long of a drop. Yeah, you'll have to... 10 feet. You'll have to jump off or something. You'll take a boat to the drop ride.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Yeah. And then you'll get on and it's a terrifying plunge into the ocean, the new ocean. Yes. The American ocean, I suppose we'll call it the ocean that is covering America yeah a beautiful future to look forward to yeah the bamboo already pillaged for weapons
Starting point is 01:26:37 we know how sharp it is oh yes we should all go grab some now just in case If we need it in the future And start sharpening up our hair With got to be glued Everybody keep your hands on the coasters
Starting point is 01:26:56 And don't forget got to be glued People have to make the announcements for the rides Then have to start Advertising Hands and arms inside and remember for your styling needs any closing thoughts about King of Kha
Starting point is 01:27:10 closing memories do you think you'll get over there again I wonder I don't know if I'll I mean I guess I'll go to a theme park again when my child is old enough and wants to go but i can't foresee myself going to any six flags yeah before that you don't think you'll have like a boys night out
Starting point is 01:27:33 the six flags let's do it guys i mean it does kind of sound fun yeah has anyone been on a big roller coaster recently yeah yeah is it is it is it the same i guess like well i'm i'm a late bloomer so with these oh so you're really enjoying it for the first time but some of them yeah i went on like i went on rock and roller coaster when i was younger but like out outdoor coasters i really just like your brain gets it takes maybe a couple minutes longer to recover yeah brain wise wise But mostly it's fine Especially if you were doing it a lot as a kid You should probably be fine
Starting point is 01:28:11 I have enough Built up pain in my head Yeah you fucked up your brain enough It's swollen Your brain is used to swelling up So it'll reswell When this happens. Yeah, that's fine when that happens.
Starting point is 01:28:26 It'll be fine. You'll build up your boy's tolerance, and you'll, like, and especially, like, get him sucking some fog. Yeah, so, yeah. Well, I want him to be an impressive teen for sure. Yeah. And he will. And he'll do some swears.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Yeah, butt-chug some fog. Oh, yeah, yeah. Loudly curse. Uh-huh. So beautiful women. You never forget that father-son moment the first time you curse and butt chug fog you teach your son to butt chug fog i mean other than i king dakai yeah i don't know if i'll ever go back but it was a really cool ride when i did i did love riding it
Starting point is 01:28:57 so whoever whatever aerodynamics like company romer, whoever made this thing, thank you. You did a great ride. Good work. Yes. And hopefully building the model didn't take your own eye out. Yes, yeah. Impale you like some bamboo. Sure. Scott, I have a question, though.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Is there something like, can we throw out real quick a couple scenarios that would get you on Kingda Ka? Like, say, for instance, just like if somebody goes, I'll give you $1,000 cash and you don't have to travel say you were there already yeah five thousand dollars for king the car no line no line no line a thousand bucks the nicest table for your device yes yeah clean table clean table not sharp as smooth as not sharp so you have to think about that i'm looking for one that you go yeah i'd have'd have to do it immediately. Okay, here's my second scenario. I don't mean to be a snob, but yeah, maybe a thousand isn't enough. Okay, that's fair. I'm just, so okay, here's my second scenario
Starting point is 01:29:51 and everyone feel free to pitch in on different ones. You're with Mike Love and Mike Love wants to go on Kingda Ka with you in the front row. It's just the two of you. Oh man, my favorite Beach Boy. You and your favorite Beach Boy. That story you would tell forever. Scott, come on.
Starting point is 01:30:06 The seat's open. They're going to start the ride soon. Wait, does he have... Do I still get $1,000? No. No $1,000. Just it's... But I do get...
Starting point is 01:30:14 Like somebody's got a kind of a grainy phone video of it. Yeah. And it's you and Mike Love on Kingda Ka. Yeah. And if a pigeon were to strike him in the face then i could say i was there for the moment yeah or a goose yeah oh boy maybe just christmas goose an 80 year old mike love gets hit in the face with a christmas goose goose three times as fast as the one that struck the erstwhile margarine spokesman um maybe mike love gets me on there. Maybe still though. And that I'd get to like,
Starting point is 01:30:45 I'd get like, you know, I get 10 seconds to ask him questions. Is it true that you were going to do a rap song with Bart Simpson? I just love the idea of him being like, get on the ride and you think about it and say, no, thank you.
Starting point is 01:31:00 You are not enough for me. You let me down. You're not a true fan. I'm sorry, Mike Love. I'm just not interested in going on Kingda Ka with you. The Beach Boys, I'll officially say, the Beach Boys don't think you're cool, Scott.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Oh, God. He gets fired off. And he makes it back safely and doesn't get hit by a goose. If someone could, in the audience, paint, like, I want a very good picture, like, drawn, or no, painted painted i would like a painted photo of scott and mike love on king da ka that sounds beautiful yeah it's the the skill sets
Starting point is 01:31:30 it's got to be a painter it should be a painter mediums it's oil uh it's watercolor okay i'm thinking watercolor yeah you wouldn't reject a like fancier kind of painting we'll see got to bejelled hair gel of different colors. Your Kingda Ka is my skydiving as I'm too afraid to...
Starting point is 01:31:50 Oh, okay, sure. Would you do it if Mike Love wanted you to do it? As someone who's not really a Beach Boys fan, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Easily. They've played the Ocean City Boardwalk a couple times the last decade. I think they've played Great Adventure. Not too far. Oh, is that right?
Starting point is 01:32:08 I think so. Okay, so really close. So this could happen. This could happen. Wow. Do they ride the rides after this? This is why we do it, man. They don't pay us at all.
Starting point is 01:32:18 We do it for the love and for the thrills. I don't know. Maybe. All right. Let me get the maybe out. Mike Love. Yeah. Get me on that coaster with Mike Love and't know. Maybe. All right. Yeah. Let me get the maybe out. Mike Love. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Get me on that coaster with Mike Love and I'll do it. All right. That's but that's priceless. See that that money that's going to be gone someday. Yeah. Love is forever. Yeah. But love is forever.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Mike Love is forever. Well, fantastic. Thanks so much for for joining us. Dan Klein, you survived podcast the ride. All right. Such a fun topic. Thanks for bringing it to us and for introducing the glory of 3D roller coasters.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Of course, I'm happy to spread. So peaceful. Everyone at home, just sit in front of the TV. Just do a watch through all of those. And really enjoy when the male host is on the ride and has to kind of still be hosting but screaming on the ride so he's like oh yeah oh oh yeah that's a ride like he's kind of still in host mode but he's like oh boy yes oh boy yes oh boy he knows he's on camera yeah
Starting point is 01:33:19 trying to keep it together he's uh it's wonderful uh uh Besides that VHS, let's exit through the gift shop. Is there anything you would like to plug? Well, actually, yes. I worked on a show, Sunnyside, last season that was forgotten by time already, even though it just came out. To Hulu. Peacock? To Hulu. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:42 But there was recently an article, it's a show about a sitcom about, like, immigrants, and there was an article recently that I read about another show about immigrants called Little America that mentions all the new shows about immigrants, and Sunnyside is not mentioned because it was already just dismissed as
Starting point is 01:34:00 like, this was not a show. But there's some really funny stuff, and we learned a lot about immigrants, and I really loved working on the show, wow check that out on hulu os rodriguez directed you did yeah one of my favorite folks yeah joel kim booster um cal penn but there's a lot of the the uh supporting cast is very funny wow wow i'm so it is a wait so it is hulu it's on hulu now all right so don't forget even though this article forgot. And everyone wants you to forget about it so badly. God, network shit is brutal. Network and just TV in general.
Starting point is 01:34:31 You're like, oh yeah, if something's not like a smash hit, you're gone. It is funny now to hear friends get jobs on new network stuff and you're not sure whether to go congratulations or oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, it's like, hmm, you just don't know. How quick is sorry in advance yeah godspeed gone yeah well from zero to uh canceled in 3.7 seconds although it's not even technically canceled yet but you can't tell if it's that because they forgot about it or they just don't want to talk about it. But yeah, very strange. Hot Topic too, gone.
Starting point is 01:35:06 No one cares. That was a show? That was a show. We're not referring to the store here. No, that's alive and well. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. What did I say?
Starting point is 01:35:14 Hot Topic. No, I meant that immigration discuss inside. I'll never forget Hot Topic. Come on, I get shirts there every week. I think we're bringing up a separate TV series called Hot Topic. Why not? About the store? Yeah, sure, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:29 That's good, honestly. A show about working at Hot Topic. And somebody having to... They're not a goth already, but they need a job. So they have to kind of goth themselves to get this gig. I have a pilot already that has a guy working at Hot Top topic from like a decade ago fix it i forgot all about it honestly the problem was it not being entirely hot topic centric yeah no it wasn't it was a it was a analogous hot topic it should just be hot topic yeah as long as the the lesson is that like family
Starting point is 01:36:01 is just the people you love the most right Right? Yeah, yeah. Doesn't that sound good? That sounds great. So good for some text for Hot Topic? Yeah. Yeah. And that's like on one of the t-shirts that they sell at the store. Something like that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:13 It's on a rancid t-shirt. Yeah. And a bunch of pop figures could come to life in it too. Sure, yeah. There's a lot of possibilities here. Until that show is made, for more of us, follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. And for three bonus episodes every month, sign up for Podcast the Ride, the second
Starting point is 01:36:30 gate at patreon.com slash podcasttheride. I'm going to do a little addendum here because I like when we do a little play us out kind of music. And I want to acknowledge the music that was apparently played in the line. I don't know if you can confirm or deny this, Dan, but I saw a Wikipedia or something that said the line for Kingda Ka had very specific music.
Starting point is 01:36:51 You know, it's kind of a jungle theme, as we said. So what kind of music are we going to play? Obviously, early 2000s trance music. Hell yes. Apparently, primarily the music of the Safri duo, the most popular Danish act since Aqua. Wow. Since Aqua? Barbie Girl?
Starting point is 01:37:10 That's pretty huge. That was a mega song. Yeah. So that tells you the quality of this band. The Safri Duo, not the Safdie Brothers. I saw that, yeah. The Safri Duo. So here, just to play us out,
Starting point is 01:37:22 here is the biggest hit by the the safari duo the bongo song uh and just imagine being in line and this uh playing for uh for a while all right so so thanks thanks for listening everybody it does sound familiar sounds like six flags doesn't it i like this it's not dissimilar to like Sandstorm by Da Rude they apparently did a like trans version of Sweet Freedom with Michael McDonald they like got him
Starting point is 01:37:53 in to do new vocals yeah so thanks Safri Duo good work bye forever dog Bye. Bye. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gairdner,
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