Podcast: The Ride - Knott's Scary Farm 50 with Betsy Sodaro

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

Betsy Sodaro (Duncanville, A Funny Feeling) joins us to talk about Knott's Scary Farm which is celebrating 50 years of frights! Tickets for LA live shows at Dynasty Typewriter (live and livestream) available now: https://www.dynastytypewriter.com/events-calendar Tower of Terror (1997) episode up at Crypt 3: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Tickets for LA live shows (in-person and livestream) available now: https://www.dynastytypewriter.com/events-calendar Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! Boo! The following Hauntcast may contain socially conscious mimes, ghostly exhalations, rock and roll DJs barely trying, plus, Betsy Sedaro joins us for a look back

into the spooky history of Not Scary Farm for its 50th anniversary. Ha ha ha ha. It's Hauntcastcast the Fright, a hauntcast about screen parks ghosted by three ghouls who are only comfortable with a monster mash if it's a monster-sized plate of mashed potatoes. My name is Frightful Narlson. Joining me as always, Scottle Juice. Scottle Juice, yes. We are,

we're too scared of the monster mash. The monster mash is terror. This is how, you know that we are wimps and we don't do, I don't do a lot of hunts. You know I'm not going

near that song. I pee my pants every time. If it's on the radio, if it's in a store, I get out of the store I take all my groceries Knock them to the floor And get the hell out of there

Yeah and it's not It's not that we don't like the song Because the song is good But the actual act of the monsters having a mash Would be too frightening If somebody would just Please I love the melody It's one of the great melodies

And if you could just un-monsterify it and just make it we'll do the normal mash yes and then it's like a doctor was having a party and he's a regular the regular doctor was having a party he's a regular doctor like you'd see in just you know like a nora efron movie it's about a high society new york doctor's dinner and they were planning their expensive new kitchen or something. And they explain like they're just working on the plans. Yes, none of this gore. Jagged slash and drain is here also. Yeah, I mean, I'm very fearful.

Everything you've talked about, I'm scared of. But I'm thinking about that big plate of mashed potatoes. I thought you would. And I thought when I was putting this together, maybe I would make a direct reference to you liking the monster-sized plate of mashed potatoes. But then I decided to make it all of us. I love it. You know, it's not a thing that I really make at home unless it's like a bag of instant mashed potatoes.

And it just doesn't have the soul, you know? I do know, yeah. You live a soulless life. I live a soulless life. My mom was telling me about this just recently. She's like, yeah, we all love mashed potatoes, but to buy a bag of potatoes and wash them and peel them in the mat, it's so labor-intensive.

Oh, this is true. Yeah, yeah. I know. I'm not doing that much. I've done it once or twice, but it's not as bad as some other stuff that I find tedious. No, it's not. As far as cooking is concerned.

But yeah, yeah. I certainly appreciate it when a restaurant serves it with stuff. I appreciate it because I don't make it at home. Like with short ribs or something. I appreciate it too when they serve it with stuff in it. We love stuff. Let's bring our guest in to see if she loves stuff. She's an actor, comedian. She's a podcast

host. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Betsy Sadaro. She's here. Wow. I love the spooky name. Oh, yeah. Well, create. Let's figure it out. Betsy.

Nice. Sadaro. I had one. If you just do a little rearranging and it's DeSaro. Good. I like that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not too bad.

Yeah. And then it's just taking everything that's already in the list. You don't even have to add too bad Yeah and then It's just taking Everything that's already In the list You don't even have to Add anything Thank you It's recycling

It's energy conscious Yeah I love it Are you Betsy are you making Mashed potatoes at home No not one No no no

God no I'm so not a cook Of any type Yeah It's I find it Heat stuff up Sure

I find that I Even stuff up. Sure. I find that I, even when I make something, I'm so annoyed that I just made it, I don't enjoy it. Yes. So I don't know what the point is.

Because you see all the dishes and stuff and you're like, that was so much work for like, two and a half minutes of just eating it. And I joylessly like,

eat it. Yeah. Yeah, great. It was better than a normal thing I ate at like McDonald's. Right. But it doesn't feel I earned anything. No.

Not one bit. Not even when we've made fresh cooked meals thanks to our partners, but not in a long time from HelloFresh. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. HelloFresh will take an hour and 15 minutes. Yes, those are. Of my time.

Yeah, no, it's like caused fights. It's like, yeah, it's bad. By the way, everything does taste as good as I've said it does in ads I've read. Yes, that part's not a lie, but we don't talk about the psychological damage. But we don't talk about how upset I am while I'm eating. I am also terrible about like plating everything so it's all hot. That's so hot. It's all hot. That's so hard. So hard.

Very hard. It's too hard. I've started like kind of just doing everything individually where it's like, okay, I'll heat up my veggies. And while I'm slamming those down, I'll heat up the chicken or whatever so that it is like all hot. I think that's a very crafty way to do it. Thank you so much.

That's very smart. Thank you so much. And cool, because slamming sounds cool. Yeah, that is for sure cool. It's awesome to slam your veggies down, kids. Yeah. Dunking it into your own mouth. Slam.

Choking a lot. A lot of like, okay, all right. Oh, yeah. As long as you survive. But you have like a backwards baseball cap on and you're on a skateboard. Oh, on a skateboard eating veggies. Slamming veggies. Slamming it.

Veggies. Slam those veggies. Hell yeah. Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. Very cool. Well, today we're going to talk a little bit about Knott's Scary Farm.

Yeah. Yeah. 50 years. Which is 50 years. 50 damn years. Of the original haunt, according to Knott's Scary Farm. Yeah. Yeah. 50 years. Which is 50 years. 50 damn years. Of the original haunt, according to Knott's, they created the haunt. The entire premise of a separate Halloween event in a typically snooze fest theme park for little kitties.

Yeah, yeah. There's no slamming going on. No slamming happening at knott's berry farm no scary no old prospector slamming no train conductor slamming none of the uh robots of mine workers that are on death's door they're not slamming that ride is so funny i love that ride ride. Strangest, most depressing. You're just seeing real, well, fake real suffering. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's such a fun, funny choice because pirates, of course, the reality of pirates is they were probably just like really nightmarish. Right. But Pirates of the Caribbean makes this seem like really fun. Right.

They're such, they would be great to hang out with. Yes. And they do not make that choice in the Knott's Berry Farm mine ride. They basically are just like, let's just show what it would be like. And everybody looks miserable. They've aged terribly

from the fumes in the mine. Those are every character is 13 and below. Yeah, 13 with an old scraggly beard. I've seen so much. But the scale, very impressive. That one big scene.

That huge scene. It's a great ride. It is a fantastic ride. It's just they went for the realism, which Disney did not when it was portraying some real life situations.

Right. Year round horrors and the horrors of what laborers face, but they still wanted to add on top of that and have more fictionalized horrors like Dracula's. Yes, exactly. Yes, they needed to add Dracula's. We need some Dracula's around here.

It's not sad and scary enough. So, Betsy, you're very into haunts and scary stuff i love them so much and have you been going to them like for a long time because i'm a newer enjoyer of this stuff i feel like moving to la was when i got really into it like as a kid i was always so into halloween yeah so stoked about the idea of haunted houses and i would go like my family very early on in my life would turn our basement into a haunted house for like the neighbors to come through and stuff oh one of these deals i'm always very impressed by anybody with the energy to do that wow your family my dad would put it together and like we would help and stuff

and then yes on halloween nights just let come in, and we would scare them and stuff. That's fun. Wow, you were a scare-actor. You were in childhood. I did it a little bit, yeah. I was probably like three years old, just being like, hey, yeah, with a mask on. That's scary. And then moving to L.A., though, it was a whole like i had no clue halloween could be

two months long and scary stuff and everything and so in the last like probably 12 years or so is when i got really into it with the haunted hayride it started we went on that and it was so fun and then they went to shark tank and sold out is that right those people wow wow i guess i recall a haunted hayride but that's the la one yeah yeah they would sell out they did the right move and got a lot more money and then decided to expand and stuff it's was like, yeah, good job. Yeah, yeah. But it's different. It was better before, though, is what you're saying. Yeah. So what was different about it?

Before, there were so many more cool, interactive moments, not just fun, big statues or whatever. There was, at one point, in uh mad max fury road those like dudes on those like the poles the pole thing they had that one haunted hayride and it was so fucking cool like these people as crows just like flinging themselves at you and it was so rad and they had this one like church moment that went to the ooh ah ah song. Oh, the sick that serves the sickness? Yes.

Yes. That does sound good. It was really, and it was like in the old zoo in Griffith Park. Oh yeah. That alone was like just a great vibe all around. Yeah. Creepy zone. And now they're just at like some baseball fields.

It's still pretty fun but it is like it's different man yeah it does it sounds like it was more dangerous back then i think so and i think that's why i like it more dangerous for all the workers right for everybody involved but it ruled yeah um a friend of the show and recent guest joe quazala has brought up something that's at the i don't know if you've run into this before, but this is a good way to seed this mythology. He's brought up the Haunted Hayride, but also specifically something that's there called the Monte Revolta Show. I saw him. You have seen this.

I saw him like last year or something. He's a haunt. He's like a zombie lounge singer. Yes. Uh-huh. He ruled. Really? Okay. We were actually, friends, we were like talking about like, do we go back to the haunted hayride?

And everybody was like, I kind of don't want to unless Monty Revolta's there. Wow. Wow. This is what Joe was saying is he's thinking about going to just that. Yeah. Because that's free. You just go to that and you don't got to get scared by, you just get to see a fun. You could just.

I think so. I got to tell everybody. Let him know don't got to get scared by stuff. You just get to see a fun. Wait, really? I think so. I got to tell everybody. Let them know. We got to go. He rules. And he's here this year. I've been meaning to get this going as an episode. Oh, man, we should see this. But now the excitement that I'm encountering here, we got to talk Monty.

He sings classic songs, but makes them spooky. But I wish I had specifics. He was a blast to the point where i was like can i hire him for like a birthday party or something this guy rules yeah he yeah so he sings a bunch of classic songs but then makes them spooky but i can't remember is it in the rap pack genre is it what kind of what i want to say it's like all different kinds of popular songs through the era. Okay. And he has like a spooky band and then like just spooky dancers and stuff.

He rules. Wow. And what's he wearing? What's the outfit? Well, I'm looking at- I feel like it would already be like tuxedos. Yeah, just a cool jacket, but that's a little like goth. Like a little dusty.

He's scarier. His teeth are scary. He's scarier. His teeth are scary. He's scarier than I thought he would be. I don't know if you can handle it. I was picturing him looking like Flabber from Big Bad Beetleborgs for some reason. I don't know why. Well, I think it's easier

maybe on a lower budget to get some decent prosthetics and spooky makeup. So yeah, Monte Revolta has somehow topped the production value of Big Bad Beetle Borg. Yeah, okay. Well, that's exciting.

I would like to see him. Wait, I didn't realize you could just go and watch him. I think maybe. Oh my God, I'm going tonight. Oh my God, I'm going every single night hoping he's there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This rules. Yeah, uh, yeah. This rules.

Yeah, uh-huh, uh-huh. And you don't gotta, and probably like you just get to walk up and do that and then they can not stand in a hayride line either. Yeah. Do you think he changes the set up every night? Maybe a little bit. Do you think maybe he throws in,

there's no band though, right? There is. Oh, there is? I think there is. Well, he's joined by R Rotley and Ms. Muerte. That sounds like a ban to me or at least some answers. Yeah. Oh, wow.

We'll investigate. We'll do the deep dive. You got to do the deep dive. We have to do it. We got to meet Monty. Monty Revolta, yes. His booking email, you can book it. Monty at montyrevolta.com. There we go.

Okay. Now the listeners have that too. Oh, it's on his public Instagram. That's great. Yeah, yeah. Great. Well, let's go straight to the source. I wonder if he has a different persona for every holiday.

Whoa. What was Monty Christmas? Rudolph rudolfo rudolfo yeah the same songs too he's a human reindeer freak with a heck of a set of pipes it's the same look except he's got ants letters on it's the, spectacular. I will hire him for every party. Wow, okay. So that's a do. Yeah, I was just going to say, so do you, as your level of comfortability with scares,

is it like the knots universal, or do you go harder? Do you go to some weirder ones, or is it basically your big your your big ones your normal kind of the normal ones i haven't i don't really have any desire for those like crazy hardcore ones yeah um you know or they like take your shoes and stuff and they're like dig through this toilet of shit i like i've no that doesn't that just i'm like i don't need to fucking do that I've had friends who did that blackout one a couple of years ago

that was super intense and yeah they immediately take your shoes from you and at one point waterboard you and shit I don't want to do anything like that I agree I don't need to be waterboarded I want a goofy storyline

that I don't really understand do anything like that. Yeah, I agree. I don't need to be waterboarded. I want a goofy storyline that I don't really understand and people being like, this way, come, you need to help. And be like, okay, I'll come help, I'll come help. Like delusion rules. Have you done delusion? Yeah, we did one. Yeah. That one's really cool.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I remember one year we ran, my friendke and i ran into you and justin michael at horror night yes and we went into a couple maze i think we went into the us maze together the us maze was awesome i agree what i remember i agree i feel like some people were negative about it but i that was my favorite one that year yeah because it was really cool and because i always find that like when you're in an area that like resembles real life and that like things could jump out that makes me like more scared so when you're in the living room from the movie yeah i remember just and we were like all four of us were alone for some reason there weren't a lot of people i don't know why that was but it felt like we were

almost more alone in that maze and i do remember you and justin waiting for the scares each time yeah which i wasn't brave enough at that point to want to do that. So I was like, what are they doing? Why aren't they walking faster? We go through them slow. Because we are like, I want to look at everything and I want to get scared. And there are some people who just like walk through so casually.

It's like, don't you want to look around? There's so much cool shit. Yeah. I'm better about that now. But especially at the time we went, I was just like, I have to pretend I like this way to do things. Well, this is your transition period. You had not fully decided that you love haunts now. What got you into it like what uh do well did

the podcast pressure to prove something about my podcast to prove something about my adulthood and my toughness yes yeah by and large uh well we went to knots knots is the first time i ever really did it i did i've done like house of horrors at universal but i hated it um and then yeah we went to knots a couple years ago, and I was sort of like, I wanted to force myself to get it. Yeah. And then it took me two or three houses to realize no one's going to kill me. Right.

And you start to realize, your brain starts to understand the limitations of what really can happen. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then as soon as you kind of recalibrate to that, then you're still getting like, ah! You're still going like that, but you don't, at least for me, I wasn't as stressed. Yeah. Yeah. And then as soon as you kind of recalibrate to that, then you're still getting like, ah, you still like going like that. But you don't, I, at least for me, I wasn't as stressed about doing it. Like a whole layer of, of fear goes away. Then it's just like little spikes and stabs of fear. Exactly. But the broader, like being afraid of the entire thing, because you've like figured out some of the system. Exactly. That makes sense. Yes. yes and you don't even consciously i don't even know that was a conscious thought i had like i understand and this is what could be possible it's just like your brain just goes oh yeah i get this oh yeah wait a minute no one's assaulting me in these mazes uh and then you can go to some

that will well sure you know dig through a toilet of shit. Dig through a toilet of shit. Look for a key. And have your shoes stolen. Yeah. The shit at Knott's is just set decoration. Oh, yeah. It cannot be dug through. It cannot be dug through.

It's real shit. But there's a little bit. Please don't. No one does shit, though, like Six Flags at Sewer of Souls. I'll just say that. Sewer of Souls. Sewer of Souls. Wait, have you gone to the Six Flags one? I have been to the Six Flags one,er of Souls. I'll just say that. Sewer of Souls. Sewer of Souls. Wait, have you gone to the Six Flags one?

I have been to the Six Flags one, yes. Is it fun? Justin and Marissa and I were talking about maybe hitting it up. I think that Six Flags is a lot of fun. And Six Flags is just like how you remember it if you've been 30 years ago. Okay. Okay. And that's fun, too.

If you want to see Mrs. Taz, she's around. Of course I want to see Mrs. Taz. Come on. It is the same statue from 30 years ago. So it sounds like you will see her

with her like purple pinkish paint chipping off. Okay. But if you're okay with that. I love that. If you're okay with that. If you're in a sorry state.

Zombified Mrs. Taz. Yes. And that see her in a sorry state, zombified Mrs. Tez. Yes. And that's not even the Halloween thing. Spooky Mrs. Tez. Doing Haunts 2, I feel like now as you get a little bit, you do like upgrade a little bit to the point where then you do want to, you want to get fucked up a little more scare wise.

Yes. So like there was a universal, it was a Halloween maze and they had like seven Michael Myers on the way out yes and like that was actually unusual for the pattern of horror nights and like you just get like scare scare scare scare scare all on the way out and i went ah like i remember yeah they've had a couple of halloweens where it's so smart where it's like let's just have a shit ton of michael myers like every room you everywhere you turn there's a michael Michael Myers And that's so fun and scary And I feel that was kind of

The us maze too Right Like Yeah It was a bunch of those people With the scissors Yeah With the scissors and stuff

Cause when you go in the Basement area Yeah And you're walking through Like that classroom and stuff Yes And the like rabbit stuff Yeah

So yeah So I'm definitely I don't think I'll ever get to the point Where I want the full shoe Losing experience But Right We went to like Meow Wolf In Vegas So, yeah. So, I'm definitely, I don't think I'll ever get to the point where I want the full shoe losing experience. Right. But we went to like Meow Wolf in Vegas and I was like, kind of like, come on, scare me a little more.

Jump out a little bit. Jump out a little bit. Jump out a little bit. It should be a haunt. Well, I wanted it to just, because it was one room that was like sensory, like fucking you up with like noise and like lights. And I was like, okay, a a little more because it is a creepy place so i like a sense of unease yeah yes the whole place is yeah there's a lot of unease going on

but i definitely was just like i was like come on let's have a couple more people popping out they're gonna be built i don't know when it's coming, but supposedly permanent horror nights in Vegas in that area 51? Yeah. 15? 15, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so they're going to do, yeah, supposedly what, next year? It's not, it's supposedly.

It's coming. God, it's so smart. Yeah. People will go all the time. Who was, I was just talking to somebody about, I think maybe it was last night it was last night some friends um we were like how about a halloween theme park yeah where it's just a spooky town people would fucking lose their minds for that with coasters and stuff like yeah it's all scary well if six legs was smarter they would just embrace that full that's

our aim yeah right it'd be like let's just make it year-round spooky yeah like the thing that they well i was gonna say our best step but is that right i don't know i guess look this would sacrifice our you know our little kid bugs bunny rides and the big carrot right yes with all of the orange paint peeling off we'd have to get rid of some of our peeling looney tunes but besides that yes if they just wanted to like embrace terror you're right yeah six flags terror mountain sure the closest yeah the closest well i'm sure there's like a little like tiny little kind of haunted things but universal is finally they're doing a whole monster's land in florida now for this new theme park cool Cool. So it's going to have a big monsters ride and it's a monsters land.

Cool. I think it's going to look kind of like. Restaurant. Yeah, there'll be like two rides. A spooky restaurant. Eyeballs and fingers. I will go. That sounds like heaven on earth. It's all, well, they do the thing like where you like, they blindfold

you and then you touch the witch's hair. But then at some point, it is spaghetti. You want to eat the spaghetti? Now eat your spaghetti, please. Now eat your spaghetti. You can eat it blindfolded and pretend you're eating witch's hair. Yeah, whatever you want. We don't give a shit.

So that is opening 2025. And the ride is supposed to... The rumor is the ride is amazing. It's through a castle, like Frankenstein's castle or something. It's got all the monsters on it. Okay. And the ride is supposed to, the rumor is the ride is like amazing. It's through like a castle, like Frankenstein's castle or something. It's got all the monsters on it. Cool. And the robots maybe.

And it's a big kooka arm like the Harry Potter ride. Oh my God. Yeah. So you're getting close to your wish. You just got to travel for it. You just got to go to Vegas. You got to go to Florida. Yeah.

You got to get humid. You got to get wet and stinky. I'll get wet and stinky Get some monster Monster stuff Yeah Yeah Wow

So that sounds awesome That sounds very cool And I I think they may Eventually build it out here But Not within 10 years Or something

Right Yeah where But I I think it probably will At least the ride Will make it over here Eventually Cool

But we'll see. I don't have any inside information. Right. That's just a guess. Sure. So, yeah. But for now, your scares are limited to a mere two months out of the year. Just two months.

Maybe August. Maybe November. It's creeping more and more on either end. It really is. It's expanding out. And why not? Truly, after like 4th of July, I'm like, hell yeah, it's Halloween time. Just round up.

Why not? August is bad. August is so hot now, probably everywhere you are. I don't even want to think about August. Let's just skip all the way to fall. Get rid of August. Let's get right into fall. Come on.

Can we make this a, I don't want to get frozen for like many years. I don't want to live into like another century. Can I just get frozen every year just for August? Skip August. Just August. Yeah. My whole family will do it. We'll all do it.

Just no one does August anymore. Yeah. There we go. I love fall. I love the weather and Halloween spooky times and like, not the actual haunts. I'm terrified of it. You love fall TV season when all of NBC and CBS's- Oh, all my favorites come back.

Yeah. The best they have to offer. All the game shows. But I hate the end of summer when it's like, end of summer, back to school. It still is mentally draining. It's still like, oh, it's like end of summer back to school it still is mentally draining to it's still like oh it's a bummer i don't have to go to school or have children who go to school but you still feel it you just feel it in the air it just kind of bums me out because everyone's like especially this less out here but at the jersey shore they do like a lot of places like we're closing up the weekend

after labor day like we're closing for the season and they'll just close for six months you know so you go there and you don't know that's the day and then like all right throw the taffy out and then just industrial drums of taffy i'll get thrown in acid right in front of you the good taffy shrivers is open year round 12 months of the year so the good taffy's uh always available but um yeah every now and then like if i go back to visit in august like places will be like really short hours or short staff it's like all uh all our workers went back to college. Yeah. So the lifeguard,

like there was only lifeguards at like every other beach because everyone is back at school. We don't know. I guarantee we'll save you. Every other person. Well, so Scott just did his first full haunt at Shacktoberfest. Wait, how? Okay, how is Shacktoberfest? I'm so curious. Weunt at Shacktoberfest. Wait, how is Shacktoberfest?

I'm so curious. We really like Shacktoberfest. Yeah, yeah. Recommend it, actually. Did you go to Dark Harbor before? No. Because Dark Harbor ruled. And I'm wondering if Shacktoberfest is kind of that, but now with a little bit more basketball?

Well, all it has is we said some of this on the on the patreon but it's uh if you all right if i imagine a lot of it's the same because it involves the ship and you're on the ship there's nautical themed

stuff but on top of that you enter through a big inflatable shack who does pre-recorded announcements for you like three of them that's what i think i might have to go that's

worth it for the price of a little cherry of shack on top of your otherwise uh evil pirate sundae yes okay i think i have to go that's worth it for the little cherry of shack on top of your otherwise uh evil pirate sunday yes oh i think i have to go we really i've been so curious about it because i loved dark harbor what's going on is that the was it all like scary pirate stuff and you're in the bowels of the ship yeah yeah like there were like three mazes throughout the Queen Mary. Okay. And then like five or six other ones in that part in front of it. And it was just spectacular.

It really elevates it. I think if you, if we were saying, if Shacktoberfest was just plopped in the middle of a parking lot without a historic ship next to it maybe there's not the shack flavor doesn't go far enough but yeah uh when when put next to nautical history when put next to a ship that nobody wants and that's sinking into the sea slowly long beach would kind of like to get rid of yes um the in 2019 it had to have been we a big group of us rented rooms on the Queen Mary and then went and did Dark Harbor. Stayed the night. And stayed the night.

And we were pretty drunk and ghost hunting at four in the morning. It was so fun. I don't think we said in the episode, when we went into this other thing that's the engine room, which is apparently open year round, and Eva Anderson told us after our episode, you know those red lights you were wondering about?

They are on all the time. So there is always, that isn't just Halloween, so that was not really a special Halloween thing. Anyway, when we left that thing, people said, did you see anything in there? And we were like, yeah, red lights. No, no, no, I mean, did you have, because some people come with their like spectrometer apps and

are looking for you. Were you doing stuff of that? Were you trying to find ghosts? Yes. Whoa. Just in the, just where like we just kind of all around in through the halls and stuff. I have a very funny ghost app. I put it in air quotes.

I got it for free. And it like, it makes fun noises and then like words will pop up and so you'll be like is somebody around here and they're like get red and crazy and then a word will pop up what word anything can pop up like anything sandwich when we were when we were doing it in the Queen Mary I was there with a friend and her name popped up but then it's also like I don't know they could be listening to us or taking from our phone

because also ads will pop up and that's the scariest part crazy loud ads about like a game where it's like take a bath or whatever and you're like, oh my God, while you're trying to get scared. Help the king escape. Yes,

help the king escape. So yeah, it's, oh, I love it. I mean, I gotta hit up Shacktoberfest. You gotta do it.

Real quick though, do you have like, have you ever seen a ghost? Do you have like a ghost in it? I had my first interaction two years ago really or like experience i didn't see anything but i heard uh it i was in um keystone colorado with my sister and her family we were skiing there and we rented a condo for the night and it was pretty small like a nice like two bedroom living room kitchen two bathrooms and one of the bathrooms

is in the front part by the the door and then a bathroom kind of between the rooms and uh they the my nieces went to bed and I was sharing a room with them and me and my sister and brother in law we were hanging out and then my sister's like I'm gonna go to bed so she gets ready and my brother-in-law and I are hanging out and then then we're both kind of like, yeah, let's go to bed. Like we shut off all the lights and everything. And he goes into the hall bathroom and I go into the room to get my toiletries and stuff to then use the bathroom by the front door. And as I'm in my room getting my stuff, I hear a great big, and it sounds like my brother-in-law

and I'm like, oh, maybe he's just getting water or something and I walk out and it came from the living room and I walk out, nothing's there and it's dark and there's a very dark corner and I'm like, I thought Nate was there but he's still in the bathroom and i was like what and then i hear it again from this dark corner i'm like what the fuck what the and i'm like kind of excited because i'm like i'm there i don't know what this is and i'm hanging out to be

like is it like a weird fan or something you know like something in this condo, the heat or something. And so I'm like waiting to see if there's like a pattern or anything. And I wait for a while. And then I hear, again, without like any actual pattern. So I run to the bathroom and I'm like shaking. My body's freaking out. Like I've never reacted to anything like this before. Like I'm trembling. I've never tremb to anything like this before. I'm trembling.

I've never trembled before. I'm brushing my teeth and washing my face. And I didn't have my phone. And I was like, I can't wait to text Marcy, who I have a spooky podcast with. I was like, I think it's happening. I think it's happening. So then I get ready and I'm bracing myself to be like, okay, I'm going to fucking go. And I'm going to see what's going on. And I i'm gonna go and i'm gonna see what's going

on and i'm gonna like look and try to see if there's anything there and so i like go out and i'm walking towards this dark dark area and i'm like oh my god oh my god and then it goes it like sucks in a gasp and then i run to the bedroom and i'm like oh my god i'm so fucking scared yeah yeah wow really yeah and was that the first like only night you were there And then I run to the bedroom and I'm like, oh my God, I'm so fucking scared. Yeah. Wow. Really? Yeah.

And was that the first, like, only night you were there? The only night we were there. Yeah. And I, like, woke up and I was like, did anybody, like, had everybody, because I slept good then. I was so scared. I watched Tommy Boy on my phone. I was so scared. I was like, oh my God, I need to chill out.

I need to chill out i need to chill out and everybody slept fine and i told them i was like i think something's up here and it was like i knew we were leaving and my nieces thought it was cool they were like cool man you know like but yeah it was something happened whoa that's crazy yeah at least it was a satisfied sounding ghost. A relaxed ghost. That ghost was chilling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chilling.

Like completely fine with everything. Maybe that energy helped you sleep well. Maybe. That might be, yeah, yeah. I want to make someone else as relaxed as I am. Yeah, it didn't feel, because you hear stories and people are like, it felt malicious or like it felt very negative. Like there was something there and that wasn't the case. I just was freaking out because I, you know, I was kind of excited.

I was just like like i think it's a vocal ghost oh my god like uh but my body had never reacted like that before too which i feel is also a sign of like something was up yeah you know it was an extra level of like heightened yeah feeling or whatever rather than just like oh it's a heater or something it was like no something something was there well that sounds ideal chill uh kind of exciting but calm ultimately and uh most of all didn't kill you and everyone in the house yeah that's what you want to have a ghost kind of in one of my favorite place like uh i grew up around keystone like in summit county and so it was like it was kind of fun of like this is one of my favorite places in the whole

world all right let's have a little ghost interaction the founder of the town yeah Milt's Keystone I'm just glad people are enjoying my city thanks for skiing on my mountain we appreciate it

love to share its beauty. The old sleepy ghost, they call me. Have any of you had any experiences or anything strange? I want one. I've seen UFO. What? I've seen a crazy, I haven't seen what it looked like. I've seen, I've said this before, like standing outside right over here by my, where my friend used to live.

I saw above Universal Studios. It was not part of the show. A light just appear in like a flash and the shoot straight up into the atmosphere, which is like, I don't know what that, I got chills. I don't know what that, and like, it was crazy too, because my two friends who I was talking to in this field, like this field area Across from Over on Lancashire Literally two blocks From here Their backs were to it

So I was the only one Who saw it So we're talking We're talking Talking I look up And I go Whoa

I gotta make a huge noise And I go And it's gone already Whoa And it was It was really high too So it was like I don't think Universal

Was testing a rocket system Into space Right And I think it was farther It was't think universal was testing a rocket system into space right and i think it was farther experiment was farther from universal farther away than just but it appeared as if like it was like a like plane like where a plane would fly and just a bright light and then straight up never seen like what was that what could that have been yeah no clue um the only other ghost thing i i got close we drove down a place called cuba road where i'm from okay once and i did this because a couple girls wanted to do it

so i was like yeah okay okay yeah i'm excited yeah that sounds awesome and we were driving there we said like there's an old i don't even what you would call it a sanitarium there basically and like it is a legit dark no like it's there's houses there but there are no street lights so when you're driving your car and this is like 10 or 15 20 minutes from where i grew up there are animals in the road so like it's one of the things where you're like turned down a street and it's just squirrels and they scatter because there's no light yeah and there are signs that are just like turn around please don't come this way like your kids this is a bad idea don't do this and i don't even know if that i think that the the hospital whatever it was isn't wasn't full of people but it's it's creepy as shit that energy from when it was. Yeah. It's nuts. So you're driving.

We're driving down, and I'm just trying to be cool. I think I'm 21 or 20 at this point. It's too old, really. And I'm driving. I'm driving. And all of a sudden, I think I've told this on this podcast before. We're driving, and the girls are screaming at everything. Of course.

Any animal or whatever, they're screaming. and all of a sudden we get like close i don't know if we actually saw the hospital but um the car stops moving the car it's like the car is on and then i'm like the car's not i'm hitting the gas i'm like it's not the car's not and and for two what 10 seconds 15 seconds i'm just like everything's real like everything ever it's like a dracula 15 seconds, I'm just like, everything's real. Like everything ever. So many chills. It's like Dracula's, like every, I'm just like, mine is racing and I turned the car on and off and it's still, it's not moving. It's like, won't move.

And I'm just like, what the fuck is going on or whatever? And it felt like 15 minutes was probably three minutes. Yeah. Probably one and a half minutes. And we look and the car was probably knocked minutes yeah probably one and a half minutes and we look and the car was probably knocked by one of the girls into neutral yeah yeah that's yeah and i didn't notice there's this cars in some kind of weird state that is neither driving nor reversing what is this and i, oh, okay. And then we drive around and then go, okay.

But that was the crazy, because I was believing in everything, ghosts and stuff in that short window of time. So yeah, no, I don't have any legit ghost stories, sadly. Unless it wasn't an elbow or unless it was not an elbow of someone you thought you were with. I think that's possible. You want to believe. I do want to believe. That's true.

Let's put it into N for necromancy. Did Fox Mulder believe in ghosts or just aliens on X-Files? Was he in everything? I forget. I think everything, right? I also have not really watched. I haven't watched in years. No, me neither. I'm more familiar with Baywatch Nights. I feel like, right? I also have not really watched. I haven't watched it in years. No, me neither.

I'm more familiar with Baywatch Nights. I feel like- I really liked it as a kid. I can't remember. Mitch Buchanan, I think, would have dealt with the ghost. He wouldn't have referred to another office. I think he would have tried to deal with it. Except in season one where it wasn't supernatural.

Hasselhoff never dealt with a ghost or a vampire? Oh, I'm sure he did. I don't know every episode. Wait, Baywatch? That's spooky? Baywatch Nights was the spinoff. The spinoff of Baywatch. And in season one, it was just like regular sexy crimes, but at night.

And it wasn't doing what they wanted it to do. So in season two, they got rid of lounge singer Lou Rawls. They didn't want to pay Lou Rawls anymore. And they made it. And X-Files was popular, so they just made it in X-Files. So there's one where there's like a dead Viking or something. Oh, there's definitely ghosts. The Viking was a ghost.

How are you watching this? Just YouTube. YouTube. Okay, there goes my day. Yeah, yeah. I'll do it. I'm watching all of Baywatch Night Season 2. Hop around.

I'm kind of deciding. I mean, I just saw my first one from Season 1 where there's a murder at a drag club and Hasselhoff has to do drag, which is one of the most demented things I've ever seen. So there's charms to both, but if you want supernatural, I recommend this Viking one where he's yelling, Valhalla! And shooting a flaming bow and he does a Viking funeral in it. Oh my god, this sounds like perfect television. Yeah, yeah, you got to. Wow.

It's where all the best television is, ripped on YouTube in poor quality. And if you can't find it there, the Internet Archive. Daily motion, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, let's talk a little of Nats. We've talked about spooky stuff in general too much. We've got 50 years to fit into 45 minutes. Well, we're not going to be able to fit the 50, I don't think.

All 50. But it's fun to talk a little bit about the history because I assume we maybe took a glance at the first haunt. A tiny bit. So yeah, it's 1973. It was called something else. It was just Halloween haunt. It was Halloween haunt.

Okay. Yes. They hadn't figured out the scary farm pun yet. Right. And it was three days and that was it. Fun. Yeah. And there's a it's not so well documented

but there's a flyer online and they have a list of what was there. Okay. Which sounds fun. There was a thing called the Haunted Shack. I don't know if we've ever talked about which was a little experience. It's a perma-knots experience and then they made it even scarier for the Halloween haunt.

They called it the Monster Maze. Great. Yes. The haunted, is it still there? I don't think so. No, they recreated it sometime in the last, I think, 10 years for one of the haunts, but it's not there right now. Okay.

But it had some illusion, like if you'd stand at the corner of the house, it looked like the perspective was off, like the Willy Wonka room. This is like a Rube Goldberg kind of, like water will run upwards or something. Yeah, something. Oh, fun. There were gags like that, I think. I think there's still

one of those at the Calico, there's a mine town In the way to Vegas yeah that still has I think this mystery on a charming that time yeah more to do more year round scary stuff there was so they did they in 73 rethemed the rides which I was surprised to learn. To be spooky. Yes. Cool.

So the Calico Mine Ride was the Ghost Way Express. Great. And Timber Mountain Log Ride they have listed as Satan's Sawmill. Hell yeah. Great. I don't think any major theme park is going to bring Satan into the picture these days. And if they did, then libs of TikTok would be all over it. Right.

Well, that did happen this year. That was Fat Knots, right? We were talking about this. Fat Knots. Oh, this is bonkers. They were complaining. There's a circus-y, did you see the carnival show? And the stuff they always get mad about is like like, someone waggling their butt,

dressed like Hot Stuff the Little Devil, and they're, like, they're doing it right in front of us now. The Hollywood Sickos. You know, everything in general, culturally or entertainment-wise, moves so fast. It's like, well, I think they did the right thing. They seem to just kind of ignore it because, like, accounts like that move on to, like, being mad at a candy bar TGI Friday. They'll buy something again to be mad at.

It's also like, you know what this is. This is a Halloween party. You know what you're doing. They framed it like they didn't know. Like, this is at an amusement park for children. What's at the nighttime version of the thing that's been going for 50 years that used to have Satan's sawmill. You're more moralistic than conservatives in 1973. They're acting like it was at, like, 10 a.m. at the Camp Snoopy stage. And it's like, well, Snoopy leaves

and then people in like leather and like feather boas come out. Snoopy is on a leather diaper. Yeah, Snoopy is on a leather diaper. Waggling his tail to like a Kesha song. They make people from the audience go into the diaper with their faces. Go in Snoopy's diaper now.

Get gunpoint. All of the conservative media is just hell in love joy now. Saying, well, someone please think of the children. And that was a joke 30 years ago. But then they don't with guns. They can give a shit with guns. Actually, kids should think about guns all year round and run drills every day. Yeah.

That's fine. It's almost like, and I hate to say this, some of these arguments are not in good faith that they're making. Not intellectually consistent. It's as if they're just cherry-picking things to misrepresent. I'm also seeing that maybe Satan's sawmill

was called Terror Mountain. Fun. Which is a fun name as well, but not as good. And now children are going to be fearful of mountains. They're ruining our mountains right in front of us. Yeah, the wholesome places. Where wholesome minds collapse on grizzled miners. Grizzled wholesome miners.

That's right. There was Scare Zone in the Ghost Town Which is of course still happening And then they had Entertainment like Seymour The Master of the Macabre This is one of these guys you like The Goularties he's like a local Horror show guy Who was there for a couple years

Because like Elvira was there For so many years And they had Like well hold on I'll get to this One many years. Cool. And they had like, well, hold on. I'll get to this in one second. They had this guy. Then they had Hilda, the Halloween haunt spokeswitch. Cool. Sounds good.

The main gate. And then they were, all they have listed here is that they had Phantom of the Opera in the Calico Saloon. Oh. Full performance. I assume it's the full. Yeah. Andrew Lloyd Webber tested it there yeah

yeah it was years in the making workshops there were five spooktacular fireworks which I don't believe they have any like they haven't had fireworks for a long time they had something

called dunking of sea monster in ghost town which is something like it's maybe a dunk tank with a person in a sea monster somebody like dressed up like a sea monster making fun of you.

Like roasting you or whatever. And look at this landlubber. He doesn't have gills like me. Yeah, you idiot. And to me, the most intriguing one, I don't know if you saw this, which I couldn't find video of and maybe I didn't look hard enough,

is Tales of Rock Horror featuring Hello People. What is Hello People? couldn't find video of and maybe i didn't look hard enough is tales of rock horror featuring hello people and what is hello people you hear that and you think uh um up with people yes but that's not right hello people is different but i think it's adjacent must be in some ways so the the hello people which i've seen it referred to is a band from the 60s and 70s they were like put together by a record guy but they were very political and what whoa they're doing in front of our kids they're doing they were doing in front of the kids and i'll show you a band of mimes funny like this is them now does it look exactly like Kiss

oh my god are you making an accusation here of Kiss this is funny yes they are so the hello people they supported Todd Rundgren on maybe two tours god that sounds,

because it sounded familiar to me for some reason. Maybe that's why. Yes. Weird. And like, so I'm listening to some of the music and I don't, it's not, the songs are maybe not great. Okay.

But there's certainly like a 60s vibe you can appreciate. Okay. It's like the strawberry alarm clock, but without the song. But the vibe of like incense and peppermint or whatever. And I'm like, okay. And then there's a clip from the Smothers Brothers. And the Smothers Brothers are just very kind of somber.

And they're like, this is a controversial song. And we don't necessarily agree with this song. But we feel that the opinions are important to express. And we're going to show and like and then uh there's about two minutes of miming like pretending a guitar is a gun and then the lyrics are not i mean this probably was outrageous for the time so this wasn't a joke on the uh no this was a very serious anti-war song which i mean as far as i'm trying to listen to the lyrics and it's just like we're all people and like it's just i think the just the idea that it was anti-war was a big deal

wasn't like they were even saying mother's brothers being like uh yeah can we say this no no we are gonna go we will drop bombs ourselves yeah we will we will break on hiatus from the show yeah sometimes stuff that got slapped with very political back then, the song is like, don't dump gasoline in streams. Yes, that is kind of the vibe of this song. And maybe I misheard. I didn't hear like in a very like crazy lyric or something. But yeah, that vibe was just basically like,

we shouldn't be at war. And people are like, what? How dare you? They should make like other mimes and shut up. Here's the hollow people. I'll look up some. Wow. So we gotta find this show.

So I guess they weren't all politics because they're doing knots. They're doing knots. Scary, the original. Conservative point of view. Mike, was this the flower you were looking at? Yeah. This Halloween haunt one? That's awesome. Yeah. Mike, was this the flyer you were looking at? Yeah, yeah. This Halloween haunt one? That's awesome.

Seymour, this is, you know, if you want to communicate scary guy idea, I feel like wide-brimmed hat and mustache is just like, oh, well, that's an undertaker. That's a sinister man, maybe. He's very scary. He looks like he's like a Carradine or somebody. He's a creepy-looking character. He's very scary. He looks like he's a Carradine or somebody. He's a creepy-looking character actor.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I was impressed with the line. I was kind of impressed with the original lineup. Yeah. That's awesome. And this has never been done before, so they're inventing this.

They're inventing the genre. I have one more little bit of history, and then we'll talk about stuff from this year. But, yeah, they do seem to have these, like, you know, I don't want to say mascots. It's like performers. Like, there's the face of it this year because that became Elvira. And for a while, for a number of years, it was Wolfman Jack. Whoa! Wolfman Jack, raspy-voiced DJ of American graffiti and Midnight Special fame.

And God bless whoever posted this on YouTube. Hollow Studios posted a little bit of a Wolfman Jack show that you could see in the Good Time Theater. And this is in 1977. Oh, my God. Does anything come to mind when I mention 1977? Pop culturally. Star Wars. You got it. I mean, first here,

I should have said this part first, that first he comes out and has a real crow or a raven on his arm and he's got the big glove to support it. Yeah, yeah. And then he's dressed in crazy spangles and then he starts singing shake your booty with the raven still on his arm this might be the

greatest show on earth yeah somebody's a halloween show yes it's 1977 77 yeah i wonder how old he was at this point um i don't know i'm timeless baby he was born in 38 okay he was only old he was at this point I don't know I'm timeless baby He was born in 38 He was not old He was like 39 Wow But so due to the 77 nature of it And Anastas kept this up

With the hanging They always address the pop culture of the year And Star Wars is new this year You gotta deal with it Incredible hair, incredible goatee Incredible big open butterfly collar culture of the year and star wars is new this year you gotta deal with it incredible hair incredible goatee incredible big open butterfly collar wolfman jack so rad the todd rungren song about him to tie it back to todd um so we must have but anyway what the star wars thing seems to become at least a lot of it was posted in this youtube video is just the characters

from star wars being introduced coming to the microphone and saying hello and uh here's a little clip of what that is it's chewy yeah it sounds sick It's just chewy. Yeah. It sounds sick. We love everybody. Hallelujah. Welcome now. Start with the karaoke.

C-3PO. This is what C-3PO says I love so much. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. C-3PO. Okay, so.

C-3PO. He, C-3PO just says, so. C-3PO. C-3PO just says, hello, and then walks away from the mess. This is just a parade of Star Wars introductions, and then they leave. But what he says on the way out is, all right, give it up for P-C-P-O. He does a double P. Hey, we got pc we got rt do do here hey

and then it becomes this little like he fights with Darth Vader and who calls it who very insultingly calls him wolfman slack but he seems to win the fight and what's the best about this little Star Wars routine happening is the great reveal at the end of who is in the audience.

I want to point him out to you. In the audience tonight is Mr. Gary Kurtz, the producer of Star Wars and American Graffiti. Would you stand up, Gary? He's out of breath. Sitting next to him, I think, is Carrie Fisher, who played, of course, Princess Leia from Star Wars. Carrie Fisher, would you stand up, please?

She's there. He's so out of breath. And then he says, all right, come back, Zia's. We got three more shows tonight. But I love Princess Leia. Shit. What is it? Shit. I don't blame him, because I didn't even think he was a song and dance. Princess Leah From uh We presumably Shit Oh what is it Shit

I don't blame him Because I didn't even think He was like a song and dance And certainly not like A stunt man Oh I didn't either He just had to fight Darth Vader

And he feels like Like we would If we had to fight Give me a sec I keep screaming At you guys Okay He's our age

Yeah right Yes I know how I was On the bounce floor at Checked Over Fest. This was completely... Give me a minute. Hey, okay. Hey, Darth Vader. He really took it out of me. The only food in the green room is Mrs. Knott's fried chicken and biscuits.

So I am struggling up here. My bag of chicken, fried chicken, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. That's old Jack struggling a little bit. There's no water, just boysenberry punch. Boysenberry. Boysenberry everything. Hey, Luke Skykicker. He's been on the toilet all day, so at least old Jack's doing better than Skykicker.

I got to get to the dressing room to do a little more space dust. You know what I'm talking about. I'm really going to be feeling the to do a little more space dust. You know what I'm talking about. I gotta do a little more. I'm really gonna be feeling the voice after I get my space dust. Chewbacca stole it from me. I was howling way before Chewbacca. Anyway, let's see. Here's the turtles.

Jack, no. Huh? Jack, no, that's not, you're not on the radio. Oh, okay, sorry. Here's Crosby he still didn't ask. He doesn't know how to not introduce bands. Man, Wolfman Jack. Boy, I wish I could.

Carrie Fisher watched that. Carrie Fisher, the year, months after Star Wars came out, watched an out-of-breath Wolfman Jack kind of like half-swing lightsaber. Although, I believe 19 years old. Is that right? 19 or 20, yeah. Boy, living the best life that ever was.

Which is right at the beginning. This is where it's starting? Boy, hasn't even started the screenwriting yet. Oh, it's all ahead of you, Carrie. Ahsoka Tano is here. And this cast of Rebels. Sabini?

Hey, Akanin's coming in. Akanin is Darth Vader. That's a spoiler alert. I figured out how to log in to Disney+. I'm gonna watch this. Don't spoil it for me. Yiddle Yaddle's here Female Yoda Dexter Depper

The man with the diner Oh no he's He's haunted I started playing it again He haunted my life Wolfman Jack's Haunting the studio Let her know you love her

I love that he like He's so He's trying to remember The name of everything And he's just been In a ten minute Star Wars sketch And he's like

She was Princess Leia from Star Wars. No. The stuff you just saw. All that shit you just saw. You know. You get it. You get it. You know.

I did it and she did it first. I got her name right. I should get points for that. So that's like now this is I don't mean to. We're coming in. the history is incredible. So they, every year, they've got a big job ahead of them to match the history of Out of Breath Wolfman Jack. But did you, but did you either of you, so Betsy went, Mike went. Did you guys see anything that you thought matched the quality of what I just showed you? No, I mean, not on that.

They fell short, ultimately. I will say this. Everything is a little too polished. You know? Okay. And I mean that because there's not like a probably a drunkish DJ on stage just like mumbling his way through

the copy they've given him. Right. Yeah. They've been rehearsing. Did you see, oh God, we saw a show. I missed, I think, the show you're talking about. Yeah, the mad scientist and his little friend, his little assistant. Shoot. What was it? They're trying to make the best lady or something.

Something like that. One of the shows, the outside show, has a little bit Of a send up Of a recent Disney situation I don't know If you guys saw this

Oh I watched This entire thing The show Did you watch The Hanging The Hanging The Hanging Uncancelled

The Hanging Uncancelled This is a show They do every year That's their like Pop culture It's what Bill and Ted

Yeah yeah Which is you know Like it's rude And it's not PC. And from that title, Uncanceled, I'm like, let me watch this crap and judge this crap. And then I'm watching it. I'm like, I like a lot of the jokes. I liked a lot of them because there was like somebody was trapped in a crate at one point.

And they say, hey, that crate's smaller than a billionaire's submarine. And then somebody gets shot and they say, nice shooting, Alec Baldwin. I'm like, you know what? Those are pretty. They actually are. Yeah. You know what?

They sort of are. It's like Norm Macdonald weekend update jokes. Yeah. It's a little harsh, a little harsh in a way. And I was digging it up until like, and okay,

and what you were referring to, they made fun of how the dragon in Fantantasmic disneyland caught on fire and has been gone will be gone for an entire year dude they had a dragon catch on fire that's great they made fun of world of color um they said that the dragon went down faster than galactic star cruiser like this is fucking this is kind of good this is a little edgy the dragon catching on fire is objectively funny. Yes.

The park down the road. I love that it's also like, we got to make fun of the park down the road, right? Yeah. They're the ones with the money. They have it all. That's correct. They're doing fine. Let's have fun.

It's punching up is what it's doing, which it also does to, there's always like, who is the big bad of the year who that they're chasing and this year elon musk a correct target honestly great yeah yes that's who we should be shitting on and they didn't do a hanging because i think they're finding that a noose is an inappropriate thing which they they make some jokes about that they're all like all right shut up but they do they have a special way to get rid of elon which is we're doing a twitter rebranding and then they take a big hot x and they brand it on his butt that's good that's what elon should get and i gotta go back to that you don't have to go back i'm sorry to tell you yeah yeah or at least watch the video check out the hanging next year i i

always assumed i would like hate every second of this and i kind of like until they fall into a pit at the end because they they're like wait but elon's not the true villain who's really bad who's on his platform and it's karen's and then a bunch of karen's come out you're like okay all right i see that but then they get confused and they start calling the karenns social justice warriors and saying like it's because of you that we have paper straws that we can't say and like well no those are no no no that's separate karens and say yeah so they did not look closely enough at uh that whole thing um but then and then but then they also make fun of their own little mythology, and this is maybe something to talk about for this year at Scary Farm. They can't do the hanging the way they used to, but they do it with something new at Knott's this year, the No Boo Necklace.

Yes. Which I like that they're making fun of their own thing. So the No Boo Necklace is a thing that you can light up that you put on to show that you do not want to get scared in the scare zones right not the mazes the mazes you got no choice and they can't see you in those i did not know that okay yeah so it doesn't apply in the mazes but i'm looking at i'm like i hate to be i mean this apparently makes me a karen if i would be in it according to their rules but i kind of like, maybe I would do the No Boo necklace because something I don't like

and that I didn't feel so much at Checktoberfest that you, I don't like feeling like I'm gonna get scared all the time. I'm gonna get scared in the maze and I'm gonna leave the maze and I'm gonna get scared more. So I like breaks maybe. So maybe I would do this No Boo necklace,

get a little break. The necklace thing, SeaWorld and Busch Gardens, I think I've been doing this for a little while now. Oh, okay. Walking around. Yeah, and you get a little brain. You don't get scared walking around.

I'll say this, though. There are territories, so you do have it on the map where you have, you know, you can get sanctuary. Oh, okay. So it's not. Yeah, Johnny Rockets.

Yeah, there are scare zones. Johnny Rockets is a sanctuary. Okay, thank God. I feel almost any bar. Any bar, yeah. You it's not. Yeah, Johnny Rockets. They're scare zones. Johnny Rockets is a sanctuary. Okay, thank God. Yeah, I feel almost any bar. Any bar, yeah. You're not getting like. Bar and restaurant, you're okay. You're not spilling your, yeah, yeah.

$20. Yeah. Spilling a $20 bad beer. One dude got us all really well right after we went to the saloon and got some beers and stuff, and I was taking a picture of uh mano and his husband uh sitting with those funny like ladies those fake ladies oh yeah yeah yes and i was like taking a picture and this dude came out of nowhere and scared us all like i almost dropped my beer i almost dropped my phone yeah but then and then like we all just cheered him

on and he just slowly walked away and then came back for a picture he was great wow yeah he was great not scare actors watching videos i feel like not scare actors are great at coming up you know and and doing an unusual scare but also I saw in some of the mazes, they would just follow you. Yes, I got followed a couple of times. Yeah, and that is so unnerving to me. It's so, like, where you're just like, phew, made it out of that, let's go to this next room. And then, like, I would turn thinking it was

Mono or Justin or someone, and it's a fucking creepy, like, it's a creepy person. Just stalking you, yeah. It's so good. It's so good it's so good we're like you kind of lose that at universal now yeah that's not there's not as much of that you got a little yeah you get a little bit maybe we got followed a little bit but not a lot yeah not to get followed more my other impression watching videos is that some of the mazes are very elaborate this year. Very long and very elaborate. They're super long.

And they are every single thing is on purpose. It's not a lazy thing going on. Every single thing. Yeah, they're incredible. There's a lot of giant puppets.

Tons. Tons of giant puppets. Spezia, what are the highlights from the year? I loved the Cinema Slasher one. That was awesome. That's a new one this year. That's a new one, and that was replacing whatever the clown one was from last year. Dark Ride. Dark Ride.

Which had been there for a long time, which is in a room they sometimes use for events. I think Jason and I ate macaroni there at a press event once Nice Spilled all over my press badge It was awesome you like enter Into a movie lobby And there's like a zombie guy Giving you popcorn

And screaming at you Yes that part was my favorite even And with this song like Let's all go to the lobby There's like a zombie guy giving you popcorn and screaming at you. Yes, that part was my favorite even. Like the lobby, yeah. And with this song, like, let's all go to the lobby. Let's start playing. And then you go into the theater and like a movie's starting. And of course, there are all these like, or not, probably like five or six people sitting in the theater seats and you don't know who's reading and who's not.

And they get you. And then you go through like uh multiple you go through the screen itself yes you go through the screen itself into the movie essentially into the movie and then it follows like multiple kind of different classic slashery style movies like a sorority house a very like uh jason-y camp one a michael myers vibe one it was awesome and then you like you go through the lobby again and it's like let's all go to the yeah you know like all and then you like see more of a movie it was spectacular yeah it was you end up in the slaughterhouse i feel like a couple mazes I feel like there are a couple of mazes.

I feel like you end with pigs hanging. Yes, lots of pigs hanging. Those Let's All Go to the Lobby characters are a little scary. These freaks made of popcorn buckets and wieners. A fucking chocolate bar. Yeah. A fucking chocolate bar.

Oh, there was a camera-headed monster. Yes. That made weird sounds. That looked really weird. Yeah. The little camera head. Yes. He's mad because his film is dying.

Yeah, he's hanging in there hoping that Tarantino or Christopher Nolan makes a new movie so he can get a game. Use me. There's only like three guys that hire me now. I'm not IMAX, but I'm still good. I'm still pretty good. You could appreciate me.

This one was the only one where I was like brainstorming what I would do. I was like, oh, they could have done like three more movies and made them get worse or bad. Like in the way the leprechaun goes to space. That's really fun. You could have gotten progressively stupider with them. That's really a fun idea. Yeah. You've got to go to space.

Because I really like this maze, but I was like, oh, it didn't feel like it built as much in a way that I wanted it to. Okay. And then I was like, oh, you know what you could have done. That's really fun. Yeah, like a slasher in space or whatever. Yeah. Jason X.

Or any of the dumb seventh sequels for any horror movie. But yeah, this was a good... I think I do like this one more than Dark Ride, which I never... I don't know if you remember that one. I went to Knott's two years ago. Yeah, it would have been there. It was probably there. I'm sure I had a blast.

There were clowns. Nasty clowns. Yeah. Yeah. And it was a good one, but... Clowns are awful. It wasn't my favorite one. Yeah.

But yeah, so there were, what else was there? Oh, one, so there were a couple that were from two years ago that I just loved. Waxworks. Oh yeah, Waxworks. Yeah, for sure. Incredible. Waxworks maybe is the most unnerving one. It's, yeah.

Because there are like, you know, like there's an evil, we've said this name before, now I have to look it up, the evil like wax man who like makes weird humans like half human half wax things. Wax man Jack, baby. Wax. It's eaten up. And there's like vats of wax. And you get little dripping.

And it feels like, you feel very much like, I can't touch this hot, hot wax. Yes. You're like, if I touch this, yeah, I will get scalded. It's going to burn me. I love that one. It is so incredible. And once again,

the detail is so nuts in there. Yeah. And that's all, body horror to me is still the scary, maybe the scariest horror movie-wise. The first Hellraiser when it's just like, skin, well, both, the first two. Just like the skin is ripped off

and you're like, that is too realistic and too scary. But Waxworks gives me that feeling where you're just like seeing either it's a dummy or it's a person in makeup and you're still like, I don't want to get hot wax on my face. I don't want to be turned into wax.

I don't want to be waxed. Some of the other stuff I'm like, okay, I'm not going to be turned into like a fish man. Right. I'm not that worried about that, but I am worried about- But like a freak like turning me into a wax figure or a mannequin.

Have you seen the movie Tourist Trap? No. Oh, no. No, not even a little bit. It's from like late 70s or early 80s. It's awesome. That's all I'll say. It's streaming on places.

Check it out. I don't want to spoil it. From 79, it looks, oh boy. Oh, yes. It's a blast. It's wild. I think it's two years old or three years old. Mesmer, I really like, which is the-

Oh, yeah, loved Mesmer. That had the elephants farting right yes yes the farting is happening oh justin brought this up right ah this is the elephant fart yeah you walk into a i guess elephant stall or whatever and it starts like at first i didn't even see the big elephant butts but they're like little clown dudes who are like kind of farting towards at you and be like yes smell it man, it, and then you continue walking. And there are these two huge elephant butts and their little tails are flapping from farts.

And then another clown keeps going like, smell it. Okay. Does it, what does it smell like in there? It doesn't smell like shit. No, that would be too

fucked up too much hearts smell nice like peanuts yeah like dirt is it like dirt i'm trying to remember it is kind of more just dirt like yeah like kind of stinky stall but not poo-poo i wonder because there's a fart smell in the Minions ride at Universal. Yes. Oh, my God. There it is. Fart gun. So, there maybe is some manufacturer that does smell fart smell for theme parks.

I'm sure. So, I don't know what they're- There must be. And that calibration's got to be tough. What's a, like, handleable fart? You don't want it to be so toxic, sulfur-y. Right. You want just a classic, traditional that passes very quickly. Yeah. Has to pass fast. Yeah, yeah. Pass, gas, sulfury. You want just a classic, traditional that passes very quickly.

Has to pass fast. Pass gas, pass fast. They had to test it. Yeah, they had to. For weeks and months. I'm the fart tester. Make sure the farts aren't too dense. Nice work if you can get it.

You know, there's worse jobs I could be doing. Sample one made me puke. Right down puke. This one just made me fart a lot. I don't know what that means. Is that good or bad? You want to use my farts?

Okay. I'll get a jar behind them. I'll jar them up for you free of charge. There you go, huh? Keep hiring me, please. I need this work. I'll jar them up for you free of charge. There you go, huh? Keep hiring me, please. I need this. Do I get residuals for my fart smell being used in perpetuity?

Every time it's used up, please. Tiger wants to use AI farts and that ain't right. I'm going on strike unless I get... You can tell when they're fake farts. When they're artificial intelligence farts. I'm willing to go to the park and do them live.

Do them live. The FDG Fart Doers Guild. You get me and my two buddies. You put a funnel up behind us and we'll do it all night. We don't care. We got you covered. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

We can't let AI take our jobs. Just eat us the leftover press mac and cheese. That should get us going. You can get a three-pack, it looks like, on Temu, that website that sprung up overnight and became suspiciously popular. It did? A different spray bottle. Yeah, this is like, it's's like Shine where it's just like

drop shipping like junk. Whoa. But these scents are smell from hell, toxic bomb, and stinky ass. Stinky ass? Stinky ass. Okay, we gotta

order that and see what's up. Fart tasting Send them to your apartment Stinky ass That's for Hauntcast next year A little A little fart tasting menu

For all of us Very nice Can you guess I think this I'm gonna call this one A stinky ass That doesn't seem like a I wouldn't

Cause I wouldn't call it a bomb Just a general stink A day to day stink You could live with Disappointed By a smell from hell Was expecting more You know

When you use hell To describe something It's gotta be fucked up But It took the expectations A lot This didn't get me The

So they have a play The one called The Chilling Chamber Or Chambers Or Chamber I think it's Chambers Which is new

Which one is that one? That's the one that's a best of essentially Halloween mazes. Yes, that ruled. It had a lot of cool doll stuff. Okay, so we talked about this recently. There's like a, what I would call a plush pile asphyxed

to the wall. Yes. Did you say ooh to the phrase plush pile? Yeah, that's so gross. Okay, because that's what Justin and Marissa determined last week. Maybe I've made this phrase up, plush pile? Yeah. That's so gross. It's so gross. That's what Justin and Marissa determined last week. Maybe I've made this phrase up, plush pile. And then Marissa said it sounded like a vagina, which is not how I intended it. Marissa! You dirty dog!

She said that with a microphone in front of her. Yeah. What does it make you think of that's so gross? Just nasty, like nasty old stuffed animal. Yeah. What does it make you think of that's so gross? Just nasty, like nasty old stuffed animal. Yeah. Okay. So you're thinking literally it's just kind of gross to you because you've imagined them all been like 30 years old.

Ew. Yeah. Dirty plush. Where you're just like, what's going on with these, man? Don't you have like a really like cursed birch or something? Ernie. Ernie. I have an Ernie from when I was.

A cursed one? Well, he's from when I was a kid and his crotch has been ripped open and his eyeballs have fallen off and his ears are ripped and his hair is patchy. And I still, I have him. He's still hanging out.

But I don't consider, I guess he's cursed, but I don't. People were, when we posted it online, people were pretty scared of him. I can see why you would be scared of it, but I look at him

and I just feel, I just feel pure love. And that's all you, that's all you can do? Yeah, but I guess he's cursed, yeah. He can still love someone with a curse. Casually cursed. Yeah, that was a really fun one. Yes, and I was,

because it's sometimes not always apparent what the lore of it is, but I was reading about it and there's a Keep the Keeper character that exists in this maze oh wow and yeah and the keeper is the keeper of haunt history at knots i feel justin was explaining this to me yeah okay so the keeper's cathedral which is where we walked into that looked like kind of a church yes where all the mazes go once they're done right because there were like graveyards and

stuff with all of the different mazes. And you saw names of like they were shouting out old mazes as well but then they would go in a few of the like highlights from over the years which was great. Because obviously like we didn't get to do these throughout the years. We should have but there's

one that has the plush wall. There's one that's like almost felt like Blade Runner. Like you're waiting outside to get inside like a neon bar looking thing and there's one that has the plush wall. There's one that's like, almost felt like Blade Runner. Like you're waiting outside to get inside like a neon bar looking thing. And there's like loud music playing. There's like a lady dancing in a cage. Yeah. And then you go by like a weird like bar top.

Yeah. And the whole, like the vibe, the switching vibe really was fun to see like all the old stuff. And I was like, oh, these may be even better than the ones they have now. Yes.

This is so cool. I do wonder, because there's not such great documentation. I was like, I wonder if they almost plussed up the way these are. Or if this is just how they were back in the day. Obviously, they didn't save the wall. They didn't save the plush pile, I assume. Plush pile wall.

But it was a fresh one. A fresh plush pile. Nothing like a fresh plush pile. The fresh plush pile wall. But it was a fresh one. A fresh plush pile. Nothing like a fresh plush pile. The fresh plush pile. Let's do a play now, everybody. The mazes that were from the 90s and 2000s, so I guess they were newer, but we went through the underground, which I believe is the club,

the carnival of carnivorous clowns. Yeah. Lore of the Vampire, and then The Doll Factory. The Doll Factory. That part really messed me up. If you like haunted dolls or don't, that one will mess you up.

Did you know you can buy haunted dolls on eBay and Etsy? The people selling them will have a big description of the spirit that's in them. It's very fun if you're ever bored and want to see haunted dolls. a big description of like the spirit that's in them. And like, it's very fun. If you're ever bored and like, want to see like haunted dolls.

It's so fun. Cause Robert, the haunted doll is in a museum. Are you a Robert fan? A Robert fan. They have the haunted doll. Sure. Sure.

Well, if I were to ever go see him, I would not take a picture. Like I do think of the, I just wouldn't be shitty. You can ask him though. The word is, I would not take a picture. Like, I do think of the ice rink be shitty. You can ask him, though. The word is you can say, excuse me, Robert, can I take a photo of you? I don't even think I want to talk to him.

You know, I think I'd be like, there he is. Okay, I'm going to get out of here. I would say hello. I'd be polite. You got to be polite. And then I would move on. Yeah, yeah. Give him his space. Good to see you, Robert.

What would you think would happen if Jason showed up dressed as Robert and met Robert? Robert? Yeah. And didn't say anything? Oh my God. Because Robert is wearing a little sailor suit. Right. Yeah.

So if Jason has showed up and like kind of silently made fun of Robert in the case? No. It would be a tribute. I feel like at minimum my flight is getting canceled on the way back. That's a curseie puts on you? But the rental bar is probably exploding. Robert strikes again. There's a delay on Delta flight 1213.

Well, and that was the last flight of the day, so I have to wait. Now you sit down with your sailor suit on. Hulu's charging $2 more a month. Robert strikes again. Robert. Robert. How dare you, Robert? I haven't finished killing Eve, Robert,

and you know that. Do they hook up or not? Yeah. Or kill each other. Or kill each other. The end of the doll one is like there's a moving floor that makes it feel like a doll is holding.

Yes. Yeah, you basically. Yes. Which is pretty crazy. It was so cool. Yeah. And then, yeah, you leave through the graveyard so you see other names of mazes throughout the years.

That one was maybe my favorite actually of the year. It was really cool. And it wasn't, that one wasn't as maybe scary as Waxworks or anything but I just love I love the history yeah love the history

I told Justin I was coming on to do Not Scary and he was so like oh I want to talk about it because he loves it oh no

he loves it he's reading a book about the history of it like oh we should have had him on again too I know I was like come do it with me man we a book about the history of it. Oh, we should have had him on again too. I know. I was like come do it with me, man. We put him in the

Purge box. Let's call it next year. Justin, that's a message from me to you. I think next year it'll be like, Justin, go. We'll celebrate its 50th anniversary plus one. Plus one. That's big. 51. Yeah, yeah. Don't sleep on 51. I really enjoyed, and this was

there two years ago when I went also, The Dep 51. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't sleep on 51. I really enjoyed, and this was there two years ago when I went also, the depths. Yes, yeah. And that huge creatures. Yeah, these gentlemen toured the depths with the light on. We toured the depths with the lights on, and it was very interesting. Very interesting. It was interesting how they did everything. Informative.

I don't understand how they do it. It's so cool. I've said this probably 10 times already, but just the effect of the laser with the fog where you have the characters coming through above the fog, if it's water or a swamp or something. The first time that I ever saw

that was at Queen Mary Dark Harbor. It blew my mind. It was like a swamp haunt or whatever. And the whole way through, you're walking through this like green fog. It was so cool. Oh, wow. And dude, like people popping up from it and then like going back down.

You're like, where'd they go? It rules. Jeez. Man, they aren't doing any laser ocean this year, I don't think. So you're not going to get that if you go to Shack. Damn it, Shack. Yeah, yeah, Shack. Come on. You dropped the you're not going to get that if you go to Shaq's Toast. Damn it, Shaq. Yeah, yeah, Shaq. Come on.

You drop the ball on that one. Hey, there we go. But they do have, but if you do want Captain Shaq's special rum punch, so you got to weigh it. No laser fun, but you do get special rum punch.

Shaq's rum punch. But it's confusing because it can be a regular shot of just Captain Morgan or it's a shot of Captain Morgan and Grenadine but it's loud in there and you can't hear. You can always take one.

And they call it a chaser even though it's not just a chaser. It's a mix shot. Oh boy. So confused. It was an accidental escape room because I thought I'd never leave. I thought we'd be discussing the logic of the shots all night. Scott tried to take two of them. They're like, no, no, no, stop. The curse.

Do you want to end up like Robert? The curse. Because we paid an extra amount of money to get the shot before the maze. But we thought it was a real bar, but it's actually just a tiny room in a maze. You need Captain's Combo to do the... That would happen in Dark Harbor where there would be secret mazes.

Oh, okay. Or I mean secret bars within the maze. Right. Okay. And it was fun. Yeah. Sometimes just like all we have is a shot of something nasty. You're like, okay. Yeah, all right, all right.

I paid extra. What choice do I have? Betsy, it's 1130. Oh, shit. You want to wrap it up? Okay. I should probably wrap it up. Thank us to the door.

Sure. I i mean not scary i remember for years hearing people being like it's the best it's the best haunt you could go to and and i was like i don't know horror nights is pretty fun and then i went two years ago for the first time and i was like yes this is the best haunt yeah it wins it wins it wins every and like they're prepared for a lot of people too it feels like whereas other places like they add more bars they like i don't know they just felt ready for a big search we also went this year early in october nobody was there oh that's a good tip that's's good to know. Okay, okay. We went on a Wednesday night, and we got the front of line passes,

but we totally didn't need them. Right. But it's still a rule to walk on, but I think the longest line was 15 minutes maybe. Jeez. Yeah, that's great. Well, they're pros. They've been at it for 50 wonderful years.

Rightfully wonderful years. They've given us so much great live entertainment. Uh-huh. Oh, you know it, baby. I'd be there if I could. If I was still alive, you know I'd be jamming out with the Jedus and

RT Beep Beep and all of them. He does, though, in fact, know Jar Jar Binks. Jar Jar Binks is my favorite. I love the Gungan City. Saboba, I know. Boss Nass. Went to college with Saboba.

Some things are sacred. I don't mess those up. So, yeah, it's still, of the major major ones It still is my favorite too Yeah So yeah I'm waiting for something To beat it Or Universal to beat it

I don't think it's happening I don't think it's happening either Here's a practice Yeah I don't think it's ever gonna happen They're the best in the biz You know who else is the best in the biz? Bootsy DeSaro

Who has survived Hauntcast The Fright So happy you could do this. Why don't you run for air? So glad you came. Let's exit through the Crypt Shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug? Yeah, right now, Mano, Agapian, and I,

we have a spooky podcast that's happening every Friday in October called Too Spooky to Handle. It's free through Earwolf Presents. You can get it anywhere. And we've been improvising. We improvised four horror movies with a bunch of our friends. Oh, wow. So, every

Friday, a new one's released. So, check it out. Oh, shit. Sounds great. Spookiest day, Friday. Okay, and as for us, for three bonus episodes every month, check out Hauntcast, The Fright, The Cemetery Gate, or get one more bonus episode on our, our,

our IP tier crypt three. You'll find all of that at patrion.com slash podcast, the ride. And as you're hearing this episode on October 20th, this evening is the big huntcast, the fright live spooktacular at dynasty typewriter. That's in Los Angeles, two shows,

two totally different topics uh if you're not in town we're doing the live stream we'll have video of it uh we'll be in costumes so there will be much uh to see fun shows in general what will we be will jason be robert the doll you'll have to watch and find out maybe. Can you find a sailor suit in time? I've already ordered so many items. But not a sailor suit. You should always just put one in any time you order any. Just have one automatically in the Amazon cart.

I was getting AA batteries. I better pick up another sailor suit. Yeah, me as well. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gairdner, Brett Boehm, Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please visit foreverdogpodcasts.com and subscribe to our shows on Apple Podcasts podcasts spotify or wherever you get your podcasts

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