Podcast: The Ride - Lucy: A Tribute

Episode Date: May 15, 2020

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Forever. Dog. Warning, the following podcast that was recorded pre-quarantine contains references to all your favorite television stars. William Frawley, Vivian Vance, Gail Gordon, and Frank Nelson. You know, all of your favorite stars. Get back in your time rovers. It's Universal Studios' Lucy, a tribute on Podcast the Ride, where the pressures of producing weekly theme park podcasts can start to feel like a never-ending chocolate conveyor belt.

I'm Scott Gardner, joined by Mike Carlson. That is good, and that is what it feels like sometimes. Yeah, boy. You gotta produce this podcast. That's what I tell people when they come up to me and ask, Mike, what advice do you have for a potential podcaster? And I say, look, you've got to do it weekly. You've got to do it at the same time. You never can stop.

And, yeah, it can really pile up. And you can feel like there's so many episode commitments that you're having to put them in your apron. Put them in your hat. Start chewing them as they go. We have a lot of podcasts right now in our hat, in our figurative hat. That's true. Yeah.

So we've been recording and we have them all and they're ready to come in. And it does feel like sometimes there's an invisible boss that comes in and yells at us. That's like, keep producing, keep talking, more rides. And it's like, yes, of course. And we just have to hide the fact that we're like a little bit stressed out. Jason Sheridan is here also. Yes. I guess you're right.

The audience is the boss oh that said this is probably the time to announce we are switching to the podcast variety uh podcast the ride comedy hour uh which will be 10 hour long episodes throughout the year instead of one weekly episode for 30 weeks of the year the sc Scott, Jason, Mike. Scott, Jason, Mike. Comedy hour. It's unclear if everybody's going to come back, though. It may be a new arrangement. There's discussion of whether I'm too cantankerous and drunk to continue being on the show,

but we'll see. It depends on contract negotiations. You were given a referendum at the start of the show that you'll never be late. And so far you haven't been. And I've stuck to that. Have I not? Okay.

Let's one example. Real quick for the audience right now. Listeners hands up. Who knows what the hell any of that was? That is important to ask. Yes. Because I think there's a lot of listeners that are younger than us. Now we're not that old, but we're old.

So I'm wondering, like, do all those references make sense? Obviously, you've seen the title of this episode, but are you as big Lucille Ball fans as we are? Are you as steeped in television history? Well, especially I'll say Mike and I have been preparing for this episode now for three years. I was thinking, I, yeah, I've,

I didn't do a ton and I was like, I think I'll be set. I think that will be a feeling that the other two are going to go ape shit here. Uh, I think that people know that the show I love Lucy had a scene where a bunch of chocolates were in a factory going very fast. I don't know if people are super familiar with the behind the scenes drama involving actor William Frawley,

who played Fred Mertz, which I assume a lot of this will be about. This is going to be a lot about William Frawley. It's really a William Frawley attribute. Some of that also could apply to, because by the end of the production of the second iteration of I Love Lucy, the Lucy-Desi comedy hour, Desi Arnaz pretty burned out too. I think they're all burned out. They're all burned out. Lucy and Desi, the divorce papers are filed five days after shooting Raps in 1960. So ready to go. This is a real, this is not a Patreon episode. So ready to go.

This is a real, this is not a Patreon episode. This is a real, we forced this to be a real main feed episode. Just as Universal in Florida put a Lucy attribute front and center at the park. It was one of the first things as you came in. The first things. I think this one we really owe explaining what it is yes we've been talking about i love lucy but why because universal studios in both hollywood and florida had basically a museum exhibit uh for many many years called

lucy a tribute right uh where they had collected a lot of her real memorabilia, her Emmys, uh, her, her clothing and wardrobe and costume. Yes. And we'll, we'll explain all the things that were in there. But yes, a long time ago, I think right when we announced the, the,

the Patreon, the, the, the second gate, I think I said as kind of a perfect example of the kind of more obscure oddity that would be behind the second gate that that could include lucy a tribute which i quickly realized was an early act of uh hollywood gardner uh heel villainy yes that i would suggest that this not be a main feed episode this very much needed to be but also just showing the passion uh uh that mike and i have for all this

just like the passion of lucy ricardo wanting to be in the show that's your passion for for lucy ricardo being in our show yes yep uh i mean look now that this is how it's played out i die of no problem with it i'm very fond of of lucy tribute sure uh it's it's it's certainly certainly not an issue and uh you know there's more fun to be had at patreon.com slash podcasts arrived um but in your i mean that's a good rationale i guess but like why what is the the main argument to put this in the main feed and not the the second gate uh well look uh this is a i consider this sort of an e-ticket when it comes to uh things i like to talk about so maybe that's the only rationale i really have you maybe were concerned about the fact that sometimes occasionally very sply, the second gates are like only an hour 45.

Yeah. And you were concerned about the possibility that this might come up short and that there wouldn't be the full time. Yeah. Because we generally, yeah, the patrons are like, yes, as you're saying, 15 minutes shorter, 30 minutes shorter on occasion. Once in a while. Once in a while. But we do need the possibility i'm not saying this is two and a half hours here but it's possible one of the biggest stars of the 20th century though one of the biggest comedic stuff i mean you look at

if this museum at this tiny little museum was anywhere else you'd be like what an incredible collection because you just saw how many awards like she was had barely passed away before she was posthumously given the presidential medal of freedom like rush limbaugh just got uh yes yes that was lucy and rush limbaugh that doesn't seem right uh i believe it's the highest honor a civilian can get from the president. Well, I guess they both really just gave so much to the culture. Beloved media personalities

in multiple formats. Universally. Started on the radio and then took it to, I assume Rush Limbaugh sang to produce albums. Yes, Limbaugh sings the old one rush sings the old ones was an old an album of him singing swanee river they're very similar types aren't they i don't know politically if they were but like probably circular head you mean like

sort of what you're talking about he hadn't been bald and uh okay cantankerous is yeah is there a is there a world where there's more conservative talk radio and william folly had his own show like in the old days maybe lucy was a member of the communist party briefly oh really yeah in the back in the 30s like back when it was more of a life. Back when it was cool. But had to speak, I don't believe named names, but got polled in front of a closed-door meeting of the House Un-American Activities Committee. Whoa. And I believe saved by the fact that she was, again, one of the biggest stars in the country.

I Love Lucy was so huge in its time i was reading that some businesses closed down monday nights because like no one is going to come shop everyone will be home watching lucy i know but i love it sure there are so many wonderful like anecdotes from the museum or from the article like the la times when they they opened the universal students hollywood one had some an article with some really interesting stuff in it lucille ball considered for the uh role that angela lansbury did in the manchurian candidate she's great in that i mean i think lucy would have been uh great in it too wow had done some work like film noir kind of movies earlier in her career

lucy was not yeah like as comedic much of a comedic actress earlier in her career yeah yeah have you seen any has anybody seen yes i have seen one and i'm trying to remember what it was i should really know what that is um canopy where she plays like a femme fatale i believe never quite the success though that the sitcom would bring. No. And she was blonde. Early in her career, she was blonde. She was not a redhead, right?

Yeah, they just died. MGM casting, I believe, suggested she died red. That was the iconic look. Here, look. I also want to say this to the listeners. We've done a lot of good rides for months now. We've done mostly rides on this main feed. Finally, we got back to rides we

made a point of that yes so this is months in at this point it's by uh it's finally time for you to listen to our indulgent garbage again jason and mike can have a little lucy attribute as a treat that's right they say on the internet on the main feed every four months you're allowed to listen to us talk about some old drunk character actor that's what this trade-off should be or a whole cast of character actors they're all drunks yeah they all drank a lot that was the time they were all depressed i uh hey and you know no no chore for me i i really liked this thing uh uh am i fair and very fond of this thing i think if you uh grew up close to universal studios hollywood you're certainly very fond of this and uh you know i mean we just we've done an episode also about the the world of cinemagic show and all that and like i uh thinking

about this attraction does take me back to like how glorious it was to be a universal studios i would uh as like a kid who's like interested in entertainment and tv and wants to know more about the things that are on tv and things like this were such catnap oh for sure and even in florida as well universal studios florida because this and alfred hitchcock back to back. Yeah. And every one of my family, like, we loved both of them. We liked the, because Alfred Hitchcock presents. You have to remember as this opens, 91, I think, in Hollywood, in the Lower Lot expansion, in Universal Studios Hollywood. One of the things made possible by the Starway, the big series of escalators that we did an

entire episode about on the second gate. Sure. escalators that we did an entire episode about on the second gate sure and then in universal studio holly uh florida opened in 1992 i saw in a rilando sentinel sentinel article erroneously called an opening day attraction clearly it is not bullshit it took over a lot of something called silver screen collectibles where you could buy screen worn costumes and props uh which was also the case at sid coinga's one-of-a-kind curios that's 100% right uh at disney mgm studios yeah yeah which i believe is now a help desk like a disney disney uh plus or not my magic my magic plus the disney band oh yeah band help when we went there last year i was like the most i like what took the nostalgia like uh what gave me such

a nostalgia jolt was looking at sid cohingas for the first i know there's nothing in that building anymore but i like oh i love it yeah yeah yeah it was uh it was a weird thing to be in a theme park and i forget like i feel like there were like old like it was like old movie posters and like and you could buy like a jacket that was born in like what about bob or something like that kind of odd like touchstone kind of yeah yeah and whoever bought anything from there, did that work? I don't know. And how checked on was it?

Remember there was that spot at Downtown Disney, the movie memorabilia stuff that kept having- Star-abilia. Star-abilia that kept having like, this is not legitimate. God.

This may not be signed by, may not have been signed by Babe Ruth. So when this opens in the early 90s, 91 and 92, especially in Universal Studios Florida, you have to remember, Nick at Night is airing I Love Lucy every night of the week,

sometimes all night in the summer. Well, and it was so heavily syndicated oh yeah there was definitely a yeah when we were kids i love lucy was still on all the time all the time constant and like yeah right so you have the lucy attribute right down the street from the nickel one of the nickelodeon studios outposts and so like that is an early maybe inadvertent synergy oh yeah that's kind of like it's kind of everything you're watching potentially at least us i bet we're watching double dare when it's in during the day and maybe a little uh i love lucy before you go to bed i loved all those game shows but watching so much i love lucy which is just such a rock solid show

like still funny still still holds up. They shot it on film, so it still looks good. It doesn't look like shit like a lot of TV shows. Oh, and they restore it, yeah. They've colorized it. They've still looked really nice. Yeah, I watched some colorized clips. It is weird to see in color.

I'm gonna say we're taking an anti-colorization stance on the hot button issue of colorization yeah do you prefer your isle of lucy christmas special colorized or not let us know uh that'll be a hotly contested debate i make an exception for that one because i want to see the christmas colors okay so the christmas one is good but the other ones are bad yeah yeah only but i want to see my christmas reds and greens I watched the full clip of Fred from, I believe it's the first episode that aired. There was a pilot that they didn't air,

but used the script later on, I believe, where Fred and Ricky are trying to do housework, and Fred makes the really shitty cake, and then Ricky makes the chickens shitty cake and then ricky uh puts like makes the chickens explode in the pressure cooker and then says like do you think a pound of rice is enough for every person and it's like oh yeah it sounds right and then the chickens explode and the rice starts bubbling over and i have never heard still a longer studio audience break maybe lucy i believe stopping the grapes i believe i know one in the longest studio it's in a lucy desi comedy hour where she's holding eggs secretly into her

apron and it's like the longest studio laugh and they get and then someone like gives her a bear hug or something something like that squashes all the eggs under i know this i did not like re-look this up this is just something i have in my mind my memory wow yeah uh i it's becoming clear to me that you guys have the fodder to just do an entire isle of lucy podcast it's a podcast and i'll look i'll hang out i'll contribute once in a while but i think i you'd mainly fuel it. I'm sure there's an audience for it. I'm sure the public right now is really hoping we do do that. Spinoff, much like, see, you've just offered us a spinoff. Much like Desi Arnaz offered William Frawley and Vivian Vance a chance to have their own Mertz's spinoff, which was their last name. Way predating The Ropers.

Yes. The cantankerous neighbor spinoff of Waitress Company. How long did that last? Was that very short? Wait, was that like a one season or did it go a little bit? I was shocked researching this

and looking at some of the exhibit stuff and then just going out and reading about it. I knew the Lucyy show lucy's second tv show ran for a while here's lucy the third show with gail gordon and the kids yes his her real life her real life kids yes ran for so many seasons yes i thought that was like a one or two season flop it ran for years five or six life with lucy uh the life with lucy the 1980s attempt at a comeback produced by aaron spelling yes died after eight episodes starring jenny lewis from rilo kiley and solo and there's a really great i thought we'd get to this later but there's a really great story she

has about uh because she was living like with her mom in the valley and she describes their house as like kind of a dump and lucy came in because he had the wrap party there and lucy walked in the door and went this is a dump oh my god also like imagine like old 80 lucy that she's got the oldest voice i would throw up and on this house but it might improve it very cantankerous let's see by the way the ropers was a two season show it was not a big and only 28 episodes but mainly i want to complain about when i googled ropers they're showing me a bit like fancy boots and shit i don't want to are you kidding me i don't want to know about boots i obviously want to know about the Three's Company spinoff.

Phone, have you been paying attention to everything else I've Googled? Do you think I want to know about fancy shoes? No, I want to learn about Norman Fell. Obviously. Yeah, come on, phone. My phone prompts me like, you probably want to drive to Mike's right now, right? It's like, come on, phone. Yes, I do do it is usually

when we do this you probably want to google vivian vance trivia right now right yes you just woke up the first thing you want to do is i'm assuming the merces did not happen because they did not care for each other right one of them wanted to do it and one of them did not for all he was all in and vivian vance said no she did not like him yeah so yeah the main obviously we we've been jonesing to talk about that that uh the neighbors and the landlord yeah so let's let's say what i love lucy was about in case you don't know what we're talking about it was it was a woman lucille ricardo married to ricky ricardo who was a band leader knee uh lucille mcgillicuddy yes that's true that was important that you got that in there very important to what i was explaining well it does illustrate the cultural differences

that's true you know that's true you're, you're right. That's true. You're right. You're right. Yeah. And she always wanted to be in his show because he had a club. He would play at clubs. He would sing.

Then he had his own club. That's another thing. We'll get into that later. And that she always wanted to be in the... Three hours from now. Put a bookmark in there. He started the club

So the deed of club Babalu. He was at the Tropicana and then he moved to the Club Babaloo. Now you have to realize sitcom characters had not had children up until that point.

This was revolutionary for characters to... Meanwhile, we have not said the words Universal Studios in two and a half hours. Now, an interesting fact

that this was at Universal Studios because all the Desilu shows were sold to Paramount and the production apparatus of Desilu became the

backbone of Paramount Television. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Alright, got that one out. The largest independent television producer. Okay, now Jason, rest up so you can tell us the square footage of the studios where the show was taped. Okay, yeah. But take a breather first.

Don't get it out now. I have to brace myself for the gray paint stuff. Desilu produced Star Trek. Mission Impossible. How about that? The Untouchables. Pretty good. And I didn't know until going out the door today that her husband was overseeing

a lot of those properties and I think a lot of producers were not happy with him as the head of Desilu. Gary Morton? Gary Morton. Right. Her second husband. Her second comedian who she later married. Yeah, yeah. And anytime I watch an interview where she's talking about Gary, she never seems that thrilled with him.

She's always mad that Desi was a philanderer and was running around and then she's like but gary's fine that's the that's the vibe i get i have no uh specific problem with gary does anyone watch old lucy interviews once in a while on youtube like i do i can't i can't say i do it's a it's kind of a bummer because she just seems so over it and it's just like oh hi and then she like laughs once in a while and well she just seems tired you know what i looked up today uh uh and i'll describe things that you can't see in this but i became aware today of of on the way out the door of a show called All Star TV Party for

Lucille Ball. I'm not sure that name Oh no, yeah, you know, and All Star, I don't know, it was like a birthday party or something where everyone, it was in 1984 and everyone in Hollywood was there. I haven't seen this. It's still Rat Pack It's still Frank and Dean Martin

and Carl Reiner and Cesar are there but I was trying to find Cesar Romero. That's what I was trying to come in with, but I couldn't find that clip. But I did find this clip where her second husband, Gary Morton, is giving her a gift. And I'll explain things as we go.

I wanted to do this ever since the Olympics. Do what? Do what? Do what? He pulls out a medal, a gold medal. You are truly. Turn it around. Always directing. You are truly a gold medal wife.

Do what? Turn it around. You're not putting it on right gary perfect timing so you honestly that illustrates my point it's not that i've ever seen her like shit on gary but she's clearly like okay what the hell is this yeah yeah gary gary you're a man. How long have you had? How much did it cost you? You probably got it for free. Gary only knew like playing clubs and the stages at the big resorts and the Catskills. Once they were married, she was like installed him at Desilu. Like pretty much was like, you're learning the television industry. No more stage antics.

No more. And starting of start having business room antics no more and and starting of start have start having business room antics gary took me a while to get that on i mean you can see the best old lucy voice is billy west have you ever heard billy west do it no it's like ailing lucy uh it's like oh oh there's a really poor taste bit he did on howard stern a long time ago where she's reading cards in the hospital she's like oh this one's from tom bosley oh what a nice man it's just that over and over again uh anyway uh you were saying I mean, you can see one of the things that's interesting about Lucy the Tribute is it does a great job at showing how much both she and Desi Arnaz were very canny business

people. Like they were focused on making a lot of shows, making money, hitting the syndication, hitting the like 100 episodes for syndication. So really, there might not have been a George Clooney and a what's his fuck if not for Randy Gerber. There wouldn't have been suitcases full of money if not for these people making the money. Would Lucy have had a tequila? Would Lucy and Desi have had a tequila? Oh, wow.

Absolutely. Maybe a rum. Might have been a tequila would Lucy and Desi have had a tequila absolutely maybe a rum might have been a rum might have been a rum because of the Cuban yeah could they still could the estate still but oh that's not a bad idea Babalu rum

yeah so I actually didn't finish my description of what I love Lucy was about no really all I had to say was basically, yeah, so Lucy and Ricky. If people don't know what the show is, they have stopped listening 15 minutes ago. That's a good point. But there might be like some early 20s people that are interested. So then they had some neighbors and they were up to antics.

They were up to antics. Yeah, she said she always wanted to be on the show. You could find this, the official Register with the Writers Guild, one page, like half a page description, like paragraph long. This is what this show is. Synopsis. Did you go to the museum and pull out the, did you check the description out? No, I'm saying that was one

of the items in lucia tribute oh one of the things and along with her just a staggering number of awards and superlatives like the is the gold medal from gary in the museum i don't think so world's number one wife when i die if there's a museum about me don't put that stupid metal in there and that's my only request goodbye she's gone

Gary keeps sneaking into the hospital and putting it around my neck while I'm sleeping it's not fair I can't fight back and he puts it on the wrong way they did have her medal of valor she got that i think during here's lucy the medal of what is that that's a different presidential award but rush doesn't have that i don't think so no okay not yet trump is gonna get that rescinded from lucy and given to

yeah maybe hannity maybe o'reilly trump will give i think trump should start giving out like only military awards to civilians like limbaugh should get the purple heart and stuff you should get like pinned and like metal like general status to like hann Tucker Carlson. Yeah. Yeah. He'll, he'll give some like gigantic, just like good guy trophy to. What if he, what if he, yeah.

Number one, good guy, metal Trump should start giving out the Gary Morton. One best good guy that ever was. They're like waiting for him to finish the description. He's making up so they can inscribe it on this big trophy oh that was something we hadn't gotten to yet mike congratulations to your godfather rod blagojevich i know he's a family friend yeah we haven't talked about that yet trump pardoned rod who was you if you listen to the uh live episode from chicago

um was which what hotel was he at i've already forgot yeah he was at saratoga springs okay yes yeah when he was uh found out that uh it was all going to shit for him do you think he'll go stay at saratoga springs now that he's celebrating getting out i think he will they're refurbished a lot of those rooms they just did a round of refurbishments at that hotel yeah he'll be on the skyliner nice before we know it a little bit better than jail i gotta say not too shabby um all right so where are you are you we're still describing what the show all right we're half an hour into the podcast we're still talking about a little bit yeah we basically we've sort of said this. So yeah. So the show was just about Lucy generally like fucking things up. I shouldn't say that.

You're right. We should keep it clean because this is a classic TV show. Lucy screwing things up. Yeah. So she, that episode you're talking about, which is funny because I believe that's the same episode as the Chocolate Factory episode. Yes. Where the roles were reversed.

I believe the lesson of that episode is Stick to the gender roles Everyone Women shouldn't be working Men should not be Doing housework They're both incompetent At it Stick to what works

The war isn't on anymore No Women don't have to be In a factory What are we doing here Maybe it wasn't All so progressive But that being said

It was funny To watch It was funny Rice explode And they were very trepidatious the network at the time of like a white woman married to a latin band leader they were worried about that they were always worried about something they couldn't say pregnant like when lucy was pregnant with little rick with uh uh desi desi jr right desi jr jr yeah yeah um well on the show was little ricky it was

yeah when she was yes the lines of of ricky and desi are so easy to mess up the line is so thin but they they they had to say she was expecting like they they thought it was scandalous to show a pregnant woman on tv so and they just in preparation for that season they like the ricardo's bought like so many tall couches so that her her bump was never visible yeah because that would offend it that would have offended i'm so glad we bought these 16 new couches They slept all against the one wall In separate twin beds In one room let's not forget that Yeah yeah they were not allowed to Show I forget what the first show is Where there is the couple was allowed

To sleep in the same bed That is crazy I mean we know that I've known that for a long time they used to say that on Nick At night as a fact but if you really think about it It's like the public wasn't Like wasn't able to like see that even though that's what was happening in every marriage they went they went to religious leaders to get approval for the pregnancy storyline uh god what yeah they

asked for they got the approval from multiple religious figures of like, will this be offensive? And they're like, no, it's okay to acknowledge a woman is going to have a child. It's like they were going to do like an episode with just tons of nudity. Like we had to go and we had to make sure this was okay. Where it's like a woman was pregnant. People were pregnant in public. It wasn't. Yeah. The people wouldn't like just stay in their house while they were pregnant in public it wasn't yeah the people

wouldn't like just stay in their house while they were pregnant as far as i know it was the 50s it was a different time not sure it was a different time but a pregnant woman could go outside but the world was weird it's still very weird but lucy had already had a child this was the second child like i i believe she had the first before or maybe while they were filming the pilot this will be the episode that my mom will listen to and have the most corrections she will say you know lucy was that she'll correct like whatever you just said i don't know what if it's wrong or not but she'll say you know actually jason was wrong she had a child before blank like she'll this is the one she will pay the most attention to what's the

form where we would what would be the best for issuing retractions because once in a while we have to do this and we've done it on the air yeah that's a good question uh yeah would you like them in print uh should we tweet that out should we put it in a newspaper or like a youtube apology video like just sort of hey we're so we're so sorry um we were incorrect when we were saying that uh desi arnez jr was lucy's second child look all we can do is try to be better and we're gonna you know uh that's all we can do is make a vow to you are we perfect no but nobody is um the the lucy show had a first the second show vivian vance in that show was the first divorced woman oh yeah character on television william frawley was divorced in

real life in 1924 i think whoa whoa somehow divorced before he was married. Yes. Not quite sure. Somehow. Came out of the womb divorced. Yeah. Well, I mean, all of that was to say that there are two characters and they have neighbors. And the neighbors are cranks. The neighbors are cranky. I've been obsessed for a long time with, it's certainly my biggest area of I Love Lucy interest is Frawley based. William Frawley, yes.

Yeah. Because he's an old, weird character actor. Not that weird, but like an old curmudgeon-y character actor, which you have an affection for. He reminds me in his performance of these old weirdos who were in theme park rides or Disney movies, like your Keenan Wins or your Thrill Ravenscruffs, but he...

There's not always bad stories about the personal lives of these people but william frawley seemed like he's got some yes i there's i didn't find anything so crazy unless you have it no just generally unpleasant just generally an unhappy man yeah uh alcoholic uh was given a refer like when they were gonna hire him like desi had to sit him down but apparently he was never late for work he was always very professional story on my three sons i believe yes i think he was drunk i've heard an interview with one of the children from my three sons saying that they'd have to go get him from lunch because he would be like drinking and they'd make the kids go get William Frawley from the like whatever

the restaurant down the street from Paramount yeah my three sons story I found was that my three sons was taping on the same lot as the Lucy show which Vivian Vance was still a part of her next show and

as we said these actors did not get along at all. And I guess it was still Sour Grapes even after By Love, Lucy. Oh, I think I did. I saw this story. Yeah, yeah. Keep going. So he would, when the Lucy show was taping, he would go over and drop a big stack of film canisters or knock equipment over

during her lines in the live tapings just to mess her up that is one of the funniest things i've ever it's really really funny uh i also another story i saw was that uh there was an episode called Lucy Has Her Eyes Examined. And Vivian Vance watched William Frawley get the script for this episode. And Frawley asked, is this next week's script? And she said, no, it's this week and we're filming it in 15 minutes. He'd never laid eyes on the script that they were about to walk out and do. It's interesting because I was reading some of those things, too.

And I've always read a pro-Vance, like a pro-Vance version of the story where he's like just a cranky asshole. And she's like upset having to work with him. But then I read some pro-Frawley stuff. It might be pro-Frawley propaganda. I don't know. But apparently early on, because Frawley stuff it might be pro-frawley propaganda i don't know but apparently early on because frawley was like 20 years older than everybody so she was like upset that she had to be married to this old guy like 24 is maybe the number that's pretty something like that

supposedly early on she was complaining about it and he was within earshot and she didn't know and he was furious and like that started it and then when she turned down the mertz's spinoff then it was over oh yeah that was it he was so upset because he wanted that show for himself and her or not her he probably just himself but it's so wild because they're both so funny. Yeah. Especially together. They're great together. Yes. Yeah, very much so. I was warned about language in this episode. I already said an F word, though. Yeah.

Well, but I copied and pasted this from an article where they did a censorship, and I liked their censorship. Oh, great. So I'll copy this. That she would have a lot of script notes, and the head writer, Jess Oppenheimer, would be called down to the set to mediate, and he would say, look, I know it was her idea, but I like it, and I think it's going to work,

and I think you should do it. And Frawley would say, I'll do it for you, but not for the witch. Parentheses from this article. Frawley would actually use a word that rhymes with which she's, I kind of like it with which honestly, but well, which makes it a little more.

Yeah. Nice. It's not nice, but it makes it nicer. Yeah. Yeah. Now, was he a pioneer and being the first,

uh, actor to call his co-star a word that rhymes with the witch? I bet. No, I bet that might have been a thing that happened. Maybe more common in the early 20th century. Yeah. Things were, as we said, things were different back then.

Frawley lived at, if you ever visit Los Angeles, the Knickerbocker Apartments. I mean, it's a hotel now. It used to be a hotel. Oh, is it apartments now? I think it's a retirement home now. Oh.

At 1714 Ivar. Kind of an infamous location. This is where Harry Houdini's widow held the 10th seance after his death. Oh. I believe the final seance that ended when she tried to contact him. He insisted on being contacted. And I think the 10th one was the last. He said, do it for 10 years after I died.

The 10th one, they thought there was no sign. And then a thunderstorm broke out. Whoa. Well, I think what had happened was that there was a word he gave her. Before he died, he gave her a word. And he said, this will prove if this is real or not. And then they did all the seances. And he never came and never gave the word and disproved because he didn't like like psychics and stuff.

He was annoyed by them. Okay. So, but anyway, the thunderstorm came and then that gives you a little hope that he is there. That's what you're saying. That's a little, that's like a, that's a Hollywood tower where some ghostly activity. Thank you. Has occurred.

If there was somebody teetering on the edge of turning this off, you said that and they went, Oh yeah, that's a tower of terror. Good, good. DW Griffith died of a brain hemorrhage after being discovered in the lobby,

unconscious. And Graham Nash was living there when Cass Elliott picked him up to go to a party where he met Stephen Stills and David Crosby. Whoa. Pretty cool. I'm trying to figure out

if this was, because Frawley lived, I believe, in the same place for much of his career and died right outside of it and I think it's this building. Yeah.

The nurse pulled him inside to try to resuscitate him. I guess he was going with it. He was walking around with the nurse. He went to a movie apparently and the nurse pulled him inside to try to resuscitate him. I guess he was walking around with a nurse. He went to a movie, apparently, and the nurse pulled him inside to try to resuscitate him, but it was no use. I read somewhere where people think Frawley haunts the bar. Sloppy Frawley.

Yeah. Which is, yeah, we like old character actors who live in a hotel and have a presence at a bar. His star on the Walk of Fame is not quite there but very very close to that up to his spot to the spot on the sidewalk where i guess he uh uh where it happened where he passed that's how many stars on the walk of fame are right where someone died that's true that's probably the only one well it's like unrelated people, you would think. But yeah, he might have closest proximity between Star and Death Spot. Probably. Lucy has two stars.

One for TV, one for film on the Walk of Fame. And probably stars on the fake Walks of Fame at all of the theme parks. Probably. Yes, hers. She has one at Universal Floridaida right by the brown derby right down the few feet away from uh does she have tribute in palm springs there's that walk of fame they have oh yes she has to be there we need to do a whole episode on that that'll be patreon liberace's there and we're just gonna go through the stars Patreon Patreon

Pond Springs was sort of A very mid century Around the time of I Love Lucy Pond Springs I feel like just booming Hell the Salton Sea probably Still very booming In the insane resort Community of an inland sea

As a result of Irrigation runoff. That's now a natural disaster. Like, it's just a catastrophe. Yeah, that's a bad, that's like a never saved spot. Yeah. We'll get to irrigation behind the paywall. But it's crazy to think about the times that,

when Lucy was airing from like the early 50s right up until 1960, I mean, there's an episode where they like go to Havana because the Bay of Castro and the Bay of Pay, all of that hadn't happened yet. So it was still the Cuba of like Godfather two. It was still the like gambling mob Cuba. Is that the Cesar Romero episode?

I'm trying to remember. He did guest star a lot of great guest stars on the show. This also feels like a very Robert Osborne-style episode that we're doing here. And many of our Hollywood friends were brought by the show as well. Let's bring it back to the museum for a minute. Yeah. Not forever. We'll get off that.

That's all right. We like the museum. Okay. The museum, yeah, was very neat uh uh i i mean i liked it aesthetically it was very like old universal with its like film reel uh yes like a trim across the floors and the ceilings um one thing that i think was really cool in there was the the recreation of the set a little model of the set. Yep.

Which was some, the thing that's kind of gone away from Universal a little bit, the education about how old Hollywood stuff was made and getting to see that set and realizing the way that sitcoms happen now where there's standing sets and maybe most traditionally three major sets that don't

really move uh i think in the old days with sitcom i think i think sitcom said sets used to be much flimsier uh and they wanted these sets to be way better so this idea of like here's a line of sets and we go down the row and these three never move you can add other ones like swing sets down the line but what i guess the apartment and the club uh and i'm blanking on what the other one might have been i guess that's the kitchen the bedroom the living room sometimes would you see the like cat or the fire escape or the yeah on occasion you wouldn't go to did they go to the mertzes very often once in a while once in a blue moon yeah i don't think that was always not every episode but the

uh also in the genuine education of that like okay so the way shows are like three camp the three cameras set up essentially the show pioneered and that exhibit taught you that and shows you like the types of shots that like here's a wide medium and a close uh and so like yeah but the way all sitcoms are done now was pioneered by Desi pretty specifically. And they bring up in the exhibit Carl Freund. I didn't know any of this until, like, I reminded myself and saw pictures of the exhibit that Carl Freund was the DP of the show. And he's why it looks so beautiful and like like just glorious black and white film but i didn't know any of this that he was the dp of metropolis and wow really oh i didn't know that yeah major

major that's wild crazy like some of the best shot movies of the first half of the century yeah um and i think he was maybe reticent to do i love lucy but desi really wanted him specifically and he's eyeing it and going well i don't like the way sitcoms look so if i'm gonna do this i want to do it my way so that standing set thing was partially came out of hit off of him like i don't want to be filming these flimsy sets for the walls shake uh and also he's like we have to be able to like shoot this fast and make these tapings not exhausting for people. So all the lights are going to be going up. They're all up on a grid, which was a revolutionary thing.

And that's the way every show is done now from sitcom to talk show or anything done in the studio. But I think before this, sitcoms are still like crazy wires all over the crown and like bringing a light. And I think this was i think i love lucy was the invention of the lighting grid yeah and a big thing um kind of started the trend of filming television in california because before this television shot film shot in california television shot in new york uh-huh and usually and yeah a lot flimsier a lot cheaper a lot more kinescopes but are they like well if we're gonna do it we live in la it's got to be done i think

that's right and he the the i believe that same dp figured out a couple one the set was painted gray besides the furniture and the props and costumes it was painted gray and like they show you in that model that's a really mind-blowing fact that they wanted to get the colors and the props and costumes it was painted gray and like they show you in that model that's a really mind-blowing fact that they wanted to get the colors and the shades exactly how it was going to look on on the show and he had figured out some sort of viewfinder to see what it would look like in black and white to see like what a shot would look like wow in black and white there was something i I saw, yeah, the newspaper prop they would read was gray. It was not a normal looking.

It was like a specific gray that would look good on the camera. Or look good in the film, I mean. It is, if you like your history, this is like such a significant thing in television history, the show. Yeah, yeah. And I love that in Hollywood

it steps away from this show that we talked about a little while ago that has like we're gonna talk about hitchcock's filming techniques and i think this was a special thing about early universals hollywood or i mean both universals that there is a nod to earlier fit to like classic film and classic tv now all that's kind of out the window now it's all like uh you know a lot more minion content and i don't blame that's what happens it's not the craziest thing but i i liked the tie to real education about well something for mom and dad and grandma and grandpa you know something classic stuff that sort of everyone remembers like that you can have multiple

generations know with it that's why like the aladdin show that we talked about a california adventure like was so well received and the frozen show is like less positively reviewed guest wise i think my theory is that because like well you've had 20 plus years of people watching Aladdin, multiple generations, developing a fondness for it. Frozen is nine years old, I guess at this point, eight years old. Some people are extremely excited about Frozen, but some people haven't even watched it. Like myself.

Yeah. I've never watched Frozen. Sure. Wow. Yeah. Should I watch Frozen? If you get around to it. Yeah, sure.

It's fine. I like it. Frozen 2? Frozen 2's to it. Yeah, sure. It's fine. I like it. Frozen 2? Frozen 2's okay. The songs are okay. One's better in my mind. Although I'd also argue, though, the reason really is that there's no genie in the Frozen Well, of course.

Genie is topicality. If they just throw genie in the Frozen show. In early Universal, I do remember like it did give you like a pretty good ip out of the gate especially when florida opens that like like oh in addition to all these to to king kong and uh and et uh and jaws and everything like i get to learn i get to do an experience about hitchcock and lucille ball um That did appeal to me as a kid and probably to a lot of parents. I brought this book. I don't think I've busted this out before necessarily.

The Official Pictorial Guide to Universal Studios from the early 90s, which has all page about the Starway. This one really, I love this book because it's got like photos of filming Back to the Future 2, my favorite film of all time of course uh uh and but there's a really good there's a good lucy section um let me find it right next to uh geez i'm wasting a lot of time flipping through pages uh i was gonna i'll tell a quick brief anecdote when When Lindsay and I went back to, we hadn't been to Orlando in years and years. In 2013, I forgot this was even here, this Lucia tribute. And apparently I ran, like I ran.

And then there's a picture on her Instagram from 2013 of me at the kiosk playing the trivia game and her and her comment is like a kid in a candy store 2013 yeah wow wow well i mean that's the thing that's i mean there's not even much to show you i just really like this display and i love the i love the the paintings of lucy and i love yeah multiple modes uh i especially love that those paintings, yeah, it's like one of her, kind of as you know, we're mainly in the middle

and then four like other modes and characters. And I love that one of them was a permanent theme park tribute to the 1985 film Stone Pillow. Oh my gosh. Where she plays a homeless lady. I just love that title. Stone Pillow. Have you seen stone pillow jason

i haven't seen all of it i've seen a lot of clips of stone pillow i mainly just i think most people mainly just know the beginning where she wakes up in a pile of trash and says well still here i forgot all about it because she also plays also plays like a more cartoonish hobo in at least one or two I Love Lucy. She was always playing the professor. She's a tramp right here, right next to Stone Pillow. Sure. She was multiple types of tramps and hobos.

And of course she was very glamorous as Auntie Mame in Mame. Oh, right. I was in as Auntie Mame in Mame. Oh, right. I was in a high school production of Mame. Oh, here we go. I know that, right? I think it's talked about before. What did you do in Mame? Okay.

Is that a video that we can see? Well, no, because the real Broadway musicals didn't really give a filming license in the way that the other company that just grinds out scripts for middle schools to do they allow one performance to be professionally videotaped the pioneer uh whatever the uh company company i forgot the name there used to be bookstores um the broadway book company that licenses the stuff usually doesn't so parents would have to like sneak then the camera is there a sneaked version of you i don't know if there's a sneaked version i played okay so in the second act of meme or the end of the first i forget when exactly but grown up and gets engaged to a rich girl and they live her family lives on an old southern plantation and i played the southern oh my god there has to be a video probably the first but not the last

time i've worn seersucker on stage but then also i there i was definitely in the they had to find a dozen ill-fitting red fox hunting jackets to do the the title song to do me wear a bunch you say this as if we know that you know the fox hunting jackets they go fox hunting at a certain point and lucille ball one of those pictures she is in like a riding kind of that why she's in a top hat yeah i believe that is from a sequence in maim yes because then she puts on like the gear too but it's a bunch of guys like serenading you make the bougainvillea turn purple at the mention of your name and you did that like in a company they taught this video they taught a dozen freshman boys they tried to teach the most complicated like dance for that and none of us could get it and we're all wearing these like

jackets none of them fit us and so it's we're like please like please simplify these steps like it's so could you send out a facebook message to all the guys you were in the group with and does anyone have a bootleg copy of this that's a good question maybe i gotta try and remember and are they willing to do a fox hunter reunion podcast oh for encore are we gonna do the on the oh my god we need to get you on encore wait yeah wait that or what was the other show where you're like a nazi yeah yeah that's more complicated that was called kilroy was here all right and that was the company that just churns out scripts with like 30 characters. So everyone gets to have a part.

But you have that tape. That I have. And that's going to be a Patreon soon. We got to figure that. Yeah, we got to figure that out. Well, it's going to be behind the paywall. You're going to have to pay to see Jason as a Nazi in eighth grade. Because the mics that fed the cameras shooting that were on a plywood proscenium and just kids in ill-fitting costume shoes stomping on this wood

is being picked up on every microphone and i'm like i can't believe you guys didn't i know you're a local video production company in 1995 come on we'll see we'll see all right well that's teasing for the future. I realize now that on this Instagram post, you're the first one to like of my Lucia tribute picture. But is that the first person? Beautiful plant of the seed. Or is it just, yeah, but my name immediately comes to me. It's funnier.

Because I, I mean, the quiz. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about the quiz. Let's talk about the quiz. In this little description here, they tell you everything. In this exhibit, from magazine covers and awards to recreated sets, home video footage, an interactive trivia game. And that's the thing my wife Erin is the most fond of.

Oh, the game. And clearly you as well. You ran to the game. Pushed children out of the way. Yeah. Get me to the game. Old people and children. I shoved.

So this was a very analog push button it was like a it was like a uh vcr board game a little bit yeah i ran much better than that uh but a trivia game where you answered questions and your answers got the lucy and uh ricky and the gang across the country from new york LA. Right. So on the Isle of Lucy, they would do like multi-season arcs, which I like a lot as well. They would go to California when Ricky was shooting a movie and they would like relocate for a season or two. So they did different things.

They had different locations. So you were trying to help in this game get the whole gang across the country by answering pretty easy if you've watched the show lucy trivia questions and and you you couldn't get them wrong because then the car would run out of gas that was kind of the threat you couldn't get too many wrong answers or no you wanted to bail in colorado or whatever yes you wanted them singing california here we come. Yeah, that's your reward. That's what they sing in the show. I believe in California, they called the quiz that. In the pictures I had, it just says, I love Lucy quiz in Florida. Okay.

So, but yeah, I would every now and then, because some of those questions, I mean, yeah, Lucy's made a name McGillicuddy. That's pretty easy. Of course. Vitamina Vegemin. Of course. That's pretty easy. But then there'd be like how

many window or like how many times did someone do this and it's like i guess three times i do believe i missed four i missed one or two i missed one and i would i was like had to start over oh boy rough you gotta finish it there was yeah i watched one that was kind of a trick question about what was his nightclub and and one of them is Tropicana, which he did play at the Tropicana. That's what I was saying earlier. But that was not his club. Babaloo Club Babaloo was his club. So that might trip you up.

Mm-hmm. We should say, in case you want some more, the songs that the Mask, or Cuban Pete, the song that the Mask sings in Jim Carrey's The Mask is Desi Arnaz's song. That makes it more relevant. That's what I'm saying. A 25 year old film. That's right. Extremely old film. I mean compared to the fact that this show is at this point

what, 70 years old? Jesus. 60 years old? Wow. There is I guess it's more closer to 60. That strip of universal studios florida based on actual buildings in la i didn't realize until reading up on this this is based on i don't know if it's still there but the hollywood reporter building kind of had those two like silver gongs uh above it and there there is even i believe it's still there a plaque on the side

uh like at the entrance the one of the entrances saying like hollywood reporter established so-and-so year by so-and-so guy um so this this building is like designed after a landmark even now and they they've changed the coloring a little since it became a Hello Kitty store. Wow. So it's a tribute to the building where it was the beginnings of the institution that now informs us that Quibi is going to... It's going to be Boffo. Blow the lid. Yeah, yeah.

Do Boffo Biz. That streamer going to do Boffo Biz. Quibi might be the first company named in variety language that's true cats and bird to make a quibi it's a quibi quick bite um was was a hollywood reporter there that might there might be another connection because i later I Love Lucy guest star, gossip columnist and miserable person Hedda Hopper appeared on the Lucy Desi Comedy Hour. I believe her column may have run in the Hollywood Reporter. Oh, I don't know that. I'm not 100% sure on that.

I'm not sure we should know that. My mom will have that correction. Yeah. To not get too far from the game, it seemed like it might be a good idea for us to play our own version of the game. I have only one question, but it might get the job done because this game is all Bill Frawley-based. The one question is Bill Frawley-based,

and your goal is to, the correct answer will get Bill Frawley from. The one question is Bill Frawley based. And your goal is to, the correct answer will get Bill Frawley from the toilet to the couch. So if you're ready to do it. I am ready. Yeah, sure. I hope I do him proud. And you should, maybe is your buzzer for this,

maybe like a, maybe it's a Bill Frawley what? You're like, what do you want? That's your buzzer. Okay. Okay. The question is and you may have run across

this answer in story already but that's you can know the trivia. That's fine. Why was Bill Frawley fired from the 1928 production of the Broadway show She's My Baby?

Oh my God. I just saw this. Oh, shit. Drinking on stage, skipping a show to go to a baseball game, punching his co-star in the nose. Forget to buzz in. What? What?

You got it first. Mike got it first. I got it first. I think punching his co-star in the nose. I think it's a baseball game. Mike, couch, here we come yes he'll probably has collapsed on the couch thanks to you uh he did punch his co-star in the nose uh yeah this was a 1928 broadway production uh he punched an actor named clifton webb yes uh the way tells the story, he spoke nasty to me a couple of times and I told him if he did that again,

I'd sock him in the nose. He did and I did. And I got kicked out of the show. Clifton Webb, also important to sitcom history because in the 40s, he appeared in several films where he originated the character

Mr. Belvedere.ere oh yeah this was a film character who they were trying to get to be in sitcoms for me they tried it in the 60s several pilots and not until a young energetic self ball crusher named christopher hewitt took on the role in the 80s did it occur He sat on his own balls. He sat on his own balls. That's a legend. Yeah, apparently. Legend of Belvedere.

Well, Mike, I'm wondering if you can go two to two in a William Frawley-based question that will also set you up for what will surely be an hour and a half of material. Who was initially considered for the role of Fred Mertz, but had already gotten another part, was already committed to- I'm waving my arms in the air like a horse.

I'm almost annoyed by this. Me, me, me, me, me, me. Please, what? I'll say, I'll do it. I'll barge in. It's, of course, Gail Gordon. Gail Gordon, star of The Lucy Show. All right.

And here's Lucy. Yes. Her longtime collaborator after her uh contentious divorce from desi arnaz although it should say uh lucy and desi stayed friends and he was supposed to give her her kennedy center honor and then he passed away five days before well geez robert stack gave it to her instead oh geez um anyway yes gail gordon and uh should i like go get lunch and come back like how do you want to handle this because i don't know as much i mean i would watch the lucy show a little but i i didn't not like it as much as i love lucy but you you are a gail gordon guy i don't know

you're hyping my gail i really like gail gordon but i i the audience is not going to expect the level of Gail Gordon. Okay, I don't mean to put pressure on you. But Gail Gordon played Mr. Mooney, which I think is a pretty, I don't know, pretty relevant reference still to this day, right? Sure. Mr. Mooney being like the banker. Basically, Lucy worked at a bank and mr mooney was her boss but also seemingly he was in charge of her money so like they could still do the dynamic of like loose like ricky not wanting her to spend money on something so he would get upset with her a lot and it was on the

second show on the second show the second show which changed concepts a few seasons in yeah well vivian vance left her and lucy had a falling out yeah at that point and she would come back every now and then but the whole thing was that lucy was a rich widow and vivian vance was divorced and they were raising their children together in the same house and then a few seasons in i believe she fired her whole writing staff and they rejiggered it uh gail gordon had shown up already and then they reconfigured it so that lucy lived in california now and worked at a bank and gail gordon was her boss and no longer her uh money manager right it was yes they've i'm my hit my hate i have a haziness with this show even even though there's episodes that I remember very specifically.

My mom and family like to watch the Christmas episodes, specifically with Vivian Vance and Lucy, where they both disagree on how to do Christmas. So they have like two different trees. And that's like a family tradition now is that we watch that show around Christmas time. I think that might be our only tradition as far as watching things it might be that episode of you should get a second tree in the spirit of that i agree because there's like one of them wants like a like a white tree i want a colorful tree like uh they used to have those big like gaudy pink trees and silver trees silver trees yeah i like that stuff anyway uh so gail gordon there's a controversy that i never see i to bring up billy west again billy west has a theory i think i haven't seen

it online is that gail gordon stole his whole comedic persona and delivery from another frequent guest star of i love lucy frank nelson uh frank nelson is the guy who's now been parodied. They've used the voice on The Simpsons many times. It's the guy that would go, yes. It's that guy. He was on Sanford and Son. He would just do this gimmick on all these different sitcoms where he would try to get a guy who worked at a store's attention, and he would turn around and go, yes. I wonder if it lets you know you're dealing with

the most persnickety uppity man right out of the gate it's a hell of a to use an improv to an initiation it's a wonderful character initiation yeah yes and it is funny uh it works almost every time and the sanford and son he's kind of old so it's a little it's maybe a little shakier than when he was younger yeah but it's the same it is the same delivery as gail gordon who would be very much like lucille like he has the same cadence and maybe he just ripped off this guy's bit and did it like not better maybe but made a lot more money probably because he was on like it was on regular he like wormed his way into parts that were more functional on the show

stuffy Mater D a character they needed more often right there was no and there was no you know Joe Rogan confronting Mencia moment ever as far as I can tell you stole my bid no I did not i never i would how dare you

they're at the comedy store immediately get hit with a bucket of water waiter with two pies my tie is spinning at the very thought gordon versus nelson that would be a good, like, I certainly did not steal your itchy asshole bit. I never. There should be a, like,

what's the Ryan Murphy one that's feud? There should be a Nelson versus Gordon feud episode or show well and now it's funny that you say that because there there was a lot of weird lucy stuff in the 2000s there's the statue uh in celeron new york there was a statue celeron celeron i believe that seller yeah i would guess that's how you say it it was the statue that everyone

came to call scary Lucy oh I've seen scary Lucy yeah it's like a statue of her it does not look like her so they replaced it with a more a better version of her in 2016 but then because the first one was such a popular tourist destination now,

the statues sit a few feet apart, like 70 feet apart. They're both there in this town. I've never heard this. Wow, like the Dueling Christmas Trees. Like the Dueling Christmas Trees. Dueling Lucy statues. That's very insane.

They should add next to all this the Ellen from Ellen's Energy Adventure. next to all this the ellen from ellen's energy adventure let's have all of the frightening sitcom yeah yours but i i feud made me think of this fact that we have not seen yet in 2015 it was announced that lucille ball would be played by kate blanchett in an untitled biographical film to be written by aaron sorkin oh wow so now i don't know i i i used to really like aaron sorkin and then i think he got away from the power of television i think the closer hews to the power of media the well not newsroom but like i don't know i really used to really like sports night i loved the west wing when it was on i didn't make it my entire political worldview but i really i think the social network is very good

yes um and i i think he made a he wrote a play called the farnsworth invention about the invention of television that's supposed to be very good. Well, I think an I Love Lucy project would benefit from that they're recreating existing scenes rather than him writing the comedy scenes from cloth. Oh, well, that's true. Assuming that that's the plan. But if this were to be a Studio 60 scenario and he was doing I Love Lucy fan fiction. Wow. Yeah. scenario when he was doing i love lucy fan fiction um wow yeah i was thinking will there be a time when because everyone's so desperate to just reuse old tv shows will there be a time when like i love lucy is back and it's just new people playing the characters and then they've just

written new episodes i mean they've been doing these live TV shows. That's true. They have been doing a version of this. So will one of them just stick and then we'll get Aaron Sorkin's I Love Lucy. Well, and they're bringing them back because in a divided America all in the family sort of matters in a new way. So maybe you need the relevance like that

can Vita, Mita, Vegemin somehow be a take on our frustrating healthcare situation and the lies that are peddled by Big Pharma. Right. That's good. That might sort of up the relevance.

Sorkin will write it. He's gonna do a re... He's gonna do a new pass on Vitamita Vegemin. Yeah, take the old script. The old ones are just recreations of old episodes. I don't know if they change it at all. But this one will be a reimagining of Vitamina Vegemite. Oh, yeah.

For a new political landscape. And with more Gilbert and Sullivan references. Yeah, yeah. That's one of his problems with the old Lucy show is not enough Gilbert and Sullivan. Sure. There was plenty of Gilbert and Sullivan. Did everyone come across the street show that I don't think was long lived? They would do right outside in Universal Studios Florida.

They would do a show with, of course, you may have seen the Lucille Ball walk around character. I learned this. The estate has to approve everyone who plays Lucy. What? Yeah. Just like the Geisel estate has to approve all the stuff for Seuss Landing, and J.K. Rowling has to approve all the Harry Potter stuff, the Lucille Ball estate has to approve the performers who play. I love Lucy. But so this had a walk around Lucy and a walk around Ricky and a band.

And they fought Wolverine. You're bringing up something I do like, because there's a clip of Lucy getting scared by Frankenstein at Universal Studios. That's very fun. I love, but I didn't know that. Yeah. That that's very fun. Yeah, I love. But I didn't know that, yeah,

that Ricky was a character. Ricky was a character. He would try to play a number. I saw it, yeah, yeah. Lucy would try to force her way in the show and then she would show that she could perform by doing the Vitamita Vegement performance. Oh, okay. And then she was loopy

and then the band just starts to play and she's like loopy and she's pulling people around trying to dance to it and oh she gets a little loose yeah she gets a little loose party in the streets right because the vitamin the bit was that she was doing a commercial and she would drink it because it was part of the commercial but the medicine would get you drunk yeah she got very drunk so she was doing that on the stage. I thought the performers were very good, very accurate, like Brady Bunch movie level accurate, where you're like, hey, they all kind of nail the spirit of the original performance.

Yeah, because Ricky has to sing, too. Yeah. Thanks to this vetting process, which is, I mean, that's nice, but it also creeps me out in kind of a fox news uh blonde automaton kind of way well i'm sure the monroe estate has to do the maryland monroe estate maybe approves yeah probably chaplain estate like yeah i i think the austin powers estate the austin powers estate austin powers widow has to prove each Austin Powers. Does Mike Myers have to approve the Austin Powers in the universal Singapore?

Oh my God. Does he have to go through a real like bunch of tapes or is he there live for the auditions? I don't know. And he'll, he'll give a yeah baby or a no baby or a no, that's not my bag. That kind of thing's not my bag baby right

the austin powers and the walk around foxy cleopatra do actually do this show they do the big band and they do fight oh the same thing yeah yeah i i will say i love that lucy now is part of the walk around ip of you i mean she has been for a while but the walk around ip of universal which includes minions includes frankenstein and groucho marx groucho real people and some cartoon and then like sideshow bob yes lucy and side show lucy sideshow bob and woody woodpecker could show up together around in the same vicinity they usually i don't think lucy usually at universal hollywood is just sitting in like a little director's chair on the main drag yeah

what do you call that is did they have a name for that street like their main street studio way studio way um i but yeah right you know with like beetle juice i think it's possible that for for younger people that the line is blurred they know what lucy is but do they know that lucy is a real person or that crouch is a real person yeah and or and then okay well if they're real people does that mean beetle juice is a real person and you know the whole gang's gathered on the back of this very uh yeah who do we got on there well they all have to team up to rescue chili willie from boris badenov uh you know laurel and hardy were laurel and hardy real uh is the creature

from the black lagoon real five was fievel a real mouse well yeah it's confused yeah fievel was real but playing a character named fievel based right in the real on himself did the lines are blurred yeah there's no is there any a single disney walk around character that was real a real person well didn't they disney and jim studios also have were the disney and jim studios characters generic like i'm an actress from the 40s or were there real oh that's a good question. Were they based on... The citizens of Hollywood were all more archetypes. Right.

That's the name, the citizens of Hollywood? Citizens of Hollywood. Yikes. But yeah, did they have impersonators? I can't remember. This is a good question. Who was a real person? Yeah, Pocahontas is a good answer. Is that it? John Smith. Yeah, I guess he walked around

I never had a walk around Lincoln was there a walk around Lincoln ever? I don't know I don't think so I think he stayed I'm sure there used to be a walk around Davy Crockett yes good pull

was there a Mike Fink mommy mommy i want my picture with mike fink the the river pirate the unhinged man he'd follow you into the bathroom and flush your head down the toilet was drown zoro was not a real person right mike zoro was not a real person all right but that's exactly one of those things i wasn't sure i wasn't super confident i didn't think he was no zoro was like bat like an inspiration for batman it's like the tradition of batman goes through zoro which is why the thomas thomas and martha wayne were seeing zoro with bruce a kid might think that dracula was real that dr Dracula was like, yes, of course, I know he's a

scary horror character, but I think he wrote the movie for himself. Right. Yeah, it's autobiographical. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And then they saw like... I want to bring my story to the masses. And Trump is going to give Dracula some sort

of a medal soon, probably. For all of his great work. And that'll be confusing, too. So he wanted blood. Who cares? That's the big deal. I love Dracula. Maybe I like blood.

Maybe I'll drink some blood. Have we heard about blood? Have we heard about this blood? Wonderful blood. Everyone's been talking about this blood. And we're going to do it. We're going to make it happen. We're drinking the blood, folks. We're gonna do it we're gonna make it happen uh of course we're drinking

the blood folks we're bringing back blood we love blood we love blood uh there's that picture of trump with frankenstein of course at universal studios was frankenstein one of those wasn't he oh yes it's frankenstein the minions that might be a full much like our fabio oh yeah yeah do the full episode about his his photo with shrek and it's apprentice tie-in right yeah because they're all wearing suits and trump-esque yeah oh yeah will he award shrek with any sort of medal we don't know no they had a fault sloppy shoppy Shrek. Sloppy Shrek. Can't control his disgusting children. Fergal Fargus.

Felicia. He's kind of an immigrant, too. He's like trying to come from the swamp into the kingdom. That's true. Trump's not a fan of. Yep. Shrek and Fievel. Oh, yeah, yeah. Fievel.

Thank God Fievel was out of the park. Yeah. Yeah. Shrek and Fievel. Oh, yeah, yeah. Fievel. Thank God Fievel was out of the park. Yeah. Yeah. Fred Trump especially would have evicted all of the mice. Yes. Yeah. That's for... Yeah.

And the cats. They're all out. So what are we talking about? Walk around characters? Oh walk around lucy there was just there was lucy street show what else lucy i mean you saw they had a lot of pictures with lucy and all our hollywood friends of course my favorite jack benny lucy and jack benny jack benny doing his hands got his hands over his mouth jack benny very funny i've liked very funny i like jack benny more now as an adult so i never really watched anything with him i don't see that stuff is like again shot on kinescope a little survive

some of the radio stuff has survived um very briefly you and i got into netflix had like six or seven jack video episodes small amount yes up and we got rightfully obsessed with them yeah and then they went away They're not on there anymore. Yeah. They put up like, yeah, like badly transferred Jack Benny episodes on Netflix for like six months. And I was like, these are funny. And then they were gone.

And I don't know where they are. Like some funny sketches. There's some stuff on archive.org. Actually, a lot of the Colgate stuff. Sure. The radio shows where he gets a polar bear for no reason. Yeah. There's some like like goofy weird stuff on there well a lot of that i mean there's weird rights issues with the lucy show and not i don't think all of those are readily available but i know due to public domain

laws that five of them at least are available on view boo right oh great oh yeah that yeah you guys are into view boo right lucy show or i love lucy uh uh lucy show lucy show perfect yeah yeah yeah so it's on there with the craig healy stuff i mean great that's where quibi is going to run into issues it's just you know view boo's already saturated the market and it's free yeah it's free and the bites are bigger yeah they're not quick bites they're longer bites yes which is like some people want long some people want quick yeah i love lucy's kind of a a long bite or a few quick bites stacked stacked on top of each other that is into huge bites which is what the boo is and that's like a combo of bite and huge yeah that's what that's what boo means and it's not voodoo that's a different streaming service no that's walmart streaming

service is that who owns yeah i just learned that because i think maybe it's getting bought that's walmart streaming service is that who owns yeah i just learned that because i think maybe it's getting bought that's what i saw yeah okay it's being purchased by someone else voodoo is being purchased but voodoo do you want to spell it in case people want to check it out yeah v-i-o-o-b-u.com and you can see yeah you can see the lucy show and you know john hopkins science science for v yes yeah yeah armchair detective van clip cup i mean all your John Hopkins Science Review. Armchair Detective, Van Clip Cup. I mean, all your favorites are there. Be sure to check it out. Beware Quibi.

We did not say Gail Gordon hosts the video that plays in Lucy Attribute. Oh, yeah. And I searched for it, and maybe I didn't do a good job, but I searched for just a feed of it, but I don't believe it exists. You see little clips when people are walking through. Little clips or clips of the montages of her, you know, falling in the grapes and doing the chocolate. Doesn't he? He's like very loving.

Just like, oh, my God. Good night, you wonderful, wonderful angel. Yes. He is. Yes. Very reverential. That's the word. Give you a medal if I could.

He probably, I mean, look, she probably wish she would have married Gail Gordon and not Gary Morton. She just had to grab who she could at the time. But he was around. He would do what she said. It was easy. Boss him around.

There's a clip of Lucy on the Dinah Shore show with Carol Burnettett i didn't realize they were such good friends um and and they're showing all the clips of gail gordon getting stuff dumped on him on the show i believe that was on that clip as well i believe there was a montage of gail gordon getting like water and i think they played it every chance they could get and and they asked lucy like how do you think you feel about that and she's like oh you know it was all part of the fun and they're like do you want to ask him and he comes out and she's so delighted to see him

she was cantankerous that she's delighted to see them and they're still very funny together even in the late 70s and there's another i forget which talk show was where they surprise her with vivian vance so i guess this was like a common theme where they'd surprise lucy with an old friend she hadn't talked to in five years and then they like main ways she saw any of these people right that was most of television just surprising people this is your life celebrity roasts all those i believe a different youtube clip where he's talking about lucy which is Gail Gordon. He's on a bench. He's wearing like a very Vincent Price style outfit. He looks like Magnum P.I.'s friend.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's his name? Higgins. Higgins. Yeah. Yeah. And the clip is it says Gail Gordon always got it working with Lucy.

And then there's just a clip of him like getting pies thrown in his face and water dumped on him uh do we know about the special that i've just been made aware of called lucy calls the president first off which president i only know a little bit about it is just that there's i don't think it's a current it's a made-up president um but uh gail gordon plays ed mcmahon's father on it and it's like a vivian vance is on it and it's just like a one-off special from like 1978 i believe uh that we have to do a full we'll do a full thing on it but i just like an hour hour before we started i came up on lucy calls the president so um you know if i could uh if i could bring it back to theme parks and i apologize no that i'm a little upset but okay i was okay so this was like we got the show we got this museum there is a lucy cool ways to do a lucy presence in universal studios anybody have

any thoughts about if they you know if they were to keep this relationship alive and there were to be a more full i love lucy theme park experience what that might consist of well i mean we've we've seen the stuff that they did at mgm where you would be in the sitcom they would do you know that wasn't there i love lucy in that i believe there was like a oh you would do the chocolate conveyor belt yeah you did the conveyor belt so there's been that version of it now there's maybe like a restaurant possibility where you're given like a minute like a money grab quick booth that you can have all the chocolate for a certain amount of money it's all the chocolate you can eat as long as you can catch them that's very well that's very good i think you could put that in like every uh dave and busters in the country as well yeah that would be a really good yeah yeah like a repeatable arcade yeah turn jason loose in that

game oh i love it that replaces ski ball i think i think you i think all those aisles are out and that space is now just full chocolate conveyor belts uh i think i think for sure you got to replicate club babaloo i think that would be a good dining show first of all anytime you see it on the tv show it's a great show you know yeah big band singing restaurant so like that's a good thing night there yes would be it would be a blast i I think, I mean, look, Lucy has, the thing with Lucy is like, what's the budget on this ride? It's like, if we're going to do multiple Lucy rides, then that's one thing. But if it has to encapsulate all of Lucy's career, then we want something that goes from, like, I Love Lucy to Stone Pillow. We do want to see some of Stone Pillow.

Oh, you want the whole career? I was thinking it was just i love lucy so maybe it starts in the apartment and then you try to you do the the chocolate and then maybe you have to dash to california maybe i mean so this is kind of a rise of the resistance where it's sort of all the rise of the resistance you stop at one point to stomp the grapes. Quickly, stomp those grapes. We haven't even touched on the Harpo.

I don't know who's trying to get... Oh, it's Gale Gordon. Oh, sure. Okay, he's trying to get money from you. You're evading... Yeah. Quick, troops. Gale Gordon is... It's Oscar Isaac.

He's still Oscar Isaac. Quick, we've got to get out of here. Gale Gordon is It's Oscar Isaac. He's still Oscar Isaac. Yeah. Quick, we've got to get out of here. Gail Gordon is demanding money from you. He knows you've overspent on some dresses at the shop this weekend. You owe him $80. Hurry. He's so upset with you.

Get out of the store. Look out. I don't get it either. He's not related to you. It's your money. It's none of his business. None of Gail Gordon's business. Look out.

Fred Mertz just knocked over a Kino light So yeah Gale So if we're using the Rise of the Resistance framework Gale is Kylo Ren Yeah Gale shows up in the pre-show He shows up on the ship And does he stab something into the

Into the roof of where you're trapped? Oh, I don't know if he had a famous prop. He didn't really have a famous, I don't think. Well, maybe his head comes down like the alien in a great movie ride, and your car shoots it with a seltzer bottle. Like, shoots it with water. Where do you think you're going? Yeah, if you could have, okay, you put water cannons on the front of the ride vehicle

i don't we i think we have to invent what the ride vehicle is i will say that if if we're using just the same let's just you take their that track system and model and so then i think it's easy to slide in that instead of the droid instead of the r5 it's like a it's a cognizant um bongo drum no that's good it's spinning around and kind of like, and he just, instead of communicating via beeps, it's just like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Do you exit into like, all right, everyone, you did it. You reached Connecticut.

You reached the home in Connecticut. You made it to the summer house. Barely even touched on that. In the last couple of seasons of I Love Lucy they relocated to Connecticut including Fred and Ethel who just went back and lived in the back house who went and

but the explanation being they could afford to do that because at some point Ricky and Fred had gone in together on an egg business and then and Fred mean selling eggs i believe and fred also it's casually mentioned is now the manager of ricky's band this cantankerous old landlord or he sold the apartment sells the apartment because fred was the landlord we forgot to

mention that too if i was the landlord uh so yeah then they just he sells the apartment building Fred sells the apartment Because Fred was the landlord We forgot to mention that too Fred was the landlord So yeah He sells the building I believe he sells the building Or they have somebody else manage it One of the two I shouldn't Look I apologize

But that today is like That's a Whole Foods location Yeah yeah So they really They cashed out Alright so back to the ride You have to go through That famous scene

Like you're in the bedroom With the twin beds well i was just thinking i think maybe the ride vehicles are twin beds yes because you split in two so you're in separate twin beds i don't know if that negates what you were about no no no that's good i like that uh and then men and women have to be in separate cars oh yes quickly divide up men over here women over here right it's just it wouldn't be proper is it maybe the the uh the the the mon calamar what's his what's his name again lieutenant bex uh uh is that fred because it's kind of a it's kind of a scratchy guy hurry get in the beds and then we can afford $80. Are you kidding? So yeah, that spot where you're in the transport on Rise of the Resistance is like an old jalopy.

It's like Fred's old jalopy. And you all load in there. And then he's like driving away. But then you get caught in some sort of a tractor beam. Or he just like runs out of gas. Okay, that's good. That's ridiculous. See what they're charging these days?

15 cents a gallon. That's ridiculous. See what they're charging these days? 15 cents a gallon. That's a bunch of hooey. He gets out and he tries to siphon gas out with a tube in his mouth from a different car, but there's not enough time to do it. And then Ethel walks up right behind, taps him on the shoulder, and then he turns around and spits it in her face. Yes. And then she does a big long take. And kicks him in the balls.

Well, and then you go around. You leave them and you go around a corner and the car stops like really suddenly and right in front of your car is a harpo marx animatronic and then the car has to mirror what the harpo marx animatronic is doing pretend you're him or maybe it splits maybe one scene gets the Harpo Marks animatronic, and then the other scene, the other car gets Ricky going, you're expecting? And then sings the song, the famous song that he serenades Lucy with,

which is, of course, the theme song to the show with words put to it. She loves me. He sings to her when he finds out she is with child. I think we've got to save the child for the end maybe. Congratulations. You're expecting. Look I don't want to. I'm obviously an idea factory

right now. If we want to spin Isle of Lucy off onto Disney Plus or something the child could be Little Ricky and not the baby Yoda. Mandalorian is trying to transport baby. Because Little Ricky and not the baby Yoda. Oh. The Mandalorian is the transport baby. Because Little Ricky did have a very cute little bongo drum. Yes, that is true. Oh, geez.

And we've established a good TV baby, a good TV child. Oh, great. Some of the, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I would agree. Is this ride just still called lucy a tribute lucy a tribute lucy rise of rise of a tribute rise of a tribute oh man that's so good to the original title uh-huh i so what we're advocating like because these if you didn't get to go to one of these little lucy museums they were pretty small it's buildings that are studs. You said it's a Hello Lucy.

Hello Lucy. Hello Lucy. I wish. Here's Lucy. It's a Hello Kitty store in Florida. There's Hello Kitty like in all the little, the classic Universal movies.

I wish there was a Hello Kitty dressed like Lucy. Why did they not? That would have been the perfect way to stitch it together. It's I think now just like a, it's like a grab and go restaurant in Hollywood.

It's just like where you get pre-packaged sandwiches. It's connected to the Panda or an old hollywood it's just like where you get pre-packed sandwiches it's connected to the panda or an old pan express next to it yeah next to it and for in it was briefly universal the experience it was rotating exhibit of no they would have like that kind of thing but i'm so you know these are relatively small spaces and i think maybe it felt inessential and easy to remove. Let's just put a store in there because it was so small. What we want is for Lucy Tribute to come back, but to be a huge two-story experience.

In fact, right essentially behind that spot where it used to be in Hollywood, Universal's putting up a big new ride building. Now, we assume that it's Nintendo. It's, yeah. But who knows? maybe they'll surprise us and they are doing lucy rise of a tribute we can see in there that they haven't put any robots in yet so there is still time for universal we know look we know a lot of industry listens to this show okay yeah so we're just putting it in your ears yeah putting it in your ear yeah maybe there's gonna be hunger for this forget donkey kong forget mario and luigi yeah but do remember frank nelson gail gordon william

frawley vivian vance do we have an equivalent of where what's like the showstopper the the giant the waters uh the big scale i think it's the full band right I think it's That's a restaurant also And you want that well that's I think the equivalent Of seeing all the stormtroopers Like you're in the Club and there's a thousand Cuban musicians

Yes That's how many were In his band I believe yeah yeah he had A thousand People yeah I mean what's No, why not? Yes, a thousand. Yeah, that's how many were in his band, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. He had a thousand. Ricky Ricardo's orchestra was a thousand people. Yeah. I mean, what's the biggest? What if you see, there's a famous episode of Lucy where they have George Reeve play.

He was Superman on the old show. And he, Lucy, or Lucy gets him, oricky gets him to come to the little ricky birthday party and then lucy didn't know he was going to show up so she dresses as superman to try to impress the kids and lucy is an idiot so she gets out on like the ledge on the high high apartment building to try to prove that she's superman doesn't make any sense and then really real george reeve comes in and like gets out on the ledge as well because i guess he's also very confident and like saves lucy and that's like the so maybe there's a superman scene you're dangling off the ledge of a building yeah yeah and with that with

the checklist right vehicle motion maybe that elevator part is replaced but you do like the grape stomping that's like an up and down movement where the whole vehicle, the bed, is stomping the grapes. Yes, and that's like very similar to a scene in Pooh's Honey Hunt. Oh, yeah. So, it's a very similar ride. Now, during Halloween Horror Nights,

this just becomes a, what is the movie called? Is it Hollywoodland? About the mysterious death of George Reeve? Yes, the Bill and Affleck movie. Remember that? Oh, yeah about the mysterious death of george reeve remember that remember that within a month of each other it's sort of like deep impact in armageddon there was the black dahlia and hollywood land came out i don't remember that there was another he was fall like 2006 or so there was a pair of movies ben affleck has played superman and batman in a way in a way yeah weird yeah interesting um um this is Superman and Batman in a way. In a way, yeah. Oh, isn't that weird? Yeah.

Interesting. This is a show, this is a neat ticket ride. Yeah. Yeah, I would just, the only, I would just say is we've got a few more Frawley animatronics in the ride. For sure. Which like, we've inadvertently spoiled Rise of the Resistance now. Not giving a spoiler. I mean, it's been

a while. It's in all the commercials. It's all been confusing enough and a lot of people bailed you know after minutes a couple yeah i'm not understanding what we're talking about i found out there's still a little bit of lucy hanging in the park apparently the one shop which i thought i went in this shop i forget what it's called at universal florida in the like new york streets has like a lucy display of merchandise which i didn't see or else i probably would have bought a coffee mug um but then in the pressed penny machine at hello kitty you can still get either the classic i love lucy logo or a vitamita vegeman

press penny and i'm so mad i missed that oh geez because i definitely would have gotten those when i was there. Yeah. I do think we're winding down here. I have two other little things. There's one quick story I really, or these are two quick little stories and then one way to go out, I think. Okay, good, good. So, when supposedly, according to legend, when William Frawley died uh vivian vance heard the news and shouted champagne

for everyone oh man which you know who knows if that was fully true but i'm sure the sentiment is similar uh and then there was a story of um a guy who was like obsessed with lucy and he considers himself lucy's number one fan did anybody come across this? Was he the guy who gave Universal some of the stuff to use in the music? I think. Do you have the guy's name? I'm, of course, now. I think that was just all from. That was a lot from the estate and everything.

But there was a big fan who became friends with Lucille Ball when he was younger. Yeah. And I'm trying to, of course. Can anyone vamp while I find this stupid thing? The the story that i missed the bill froley so one of my answers in that uh trivia game was based on reality which is that it was in exchange for he agreed to frolly agreed to behave and show up on time and not be drunk but he did have one stipulation which is if the yankees are in the world series i don't have to do the show right and this was the 50s so the yankees were in the world series a lot so very many times he was not around i think it didn't end up they just you know had to be creative with how

to get him in but there were two entire episodes in which he does not appear because uh the yankees are in the world series this is similar when when I read that. This is similar to Nicholson shooting Batman, and I'm assuming other movies. Nicholson would not work if the Lakers were playing, I believe. In town. In town. Yeah, in town. So he could go to the game. So he had that built

in. Wow. I like how today, like, if you dare take the mantle of playing the Joker, you have to go to the darkest place you've ever been. You have to live as the Joker for ten straight months. And Jack is like, peace and out, Laker time. Not if I can see the

Lakers. And then just comes back the next, alright, what the fuck was I doing? Oh, that's right. Tee hee, I'm the Joker. Like Harrison. There was no difference. Yeah, and that was better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oscars be damned.

I think it was better. He had a scary smile, and he just, like, you know. Thing is, I'm a scary guy. He just put a little more juice on his normal voice. Like 5%. All right, I got to get out of here in 10. Gentlemen, let's expand our minds uh that one work okay uh hey cut prints i'm hanging with kareem tonight i think you would have them

all taped the game's taped too and then he would watch like he and no one could tell him what happened oh sure i'm assuming i assume i wonder if he did does he do that on like the departed set or is it like batman's like a bit he set? Or is it like Batman's like a big, he wanted to do Batman, but it's like he, you know. Well, it wasn't Showtime anymore.

He might've put it. Yeah. Ordering show. Again, Frawley, great Yankee team. Yeah. Like Harrison Ford being asked,

what is, do you think you're a force ghost? He goes, what is a force ghost? Did that happen? Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

Good for him. People were also, people are also pointing out they think he probably does know and he's just like being an athlete which is funny which is funny i like it i'm saying what is that he probably also frustrated to be promoting like the call of the wild based on a work of american literature that it's not coming out at a time of year that people have optimistic thoughts on movies. And you're like, what start? We've got a lot of Star Wars. Sure.

Did you see the, has everyone seen the clip of him with the CGI dog? That's actually a man. That's a guy walking around. It's a guy walking around. So they have the clip of Harrison with the guy who's playing a dog. Oh boy. My dad was like,

did you see this clip going around? He's like, this is so kind of funny. And I was like, yeah, I saw that clip. Uh, I woke up in the morning and Mike had already sent it to me.

It had just aired on CBS this morning and Mike had already passed it along. Uh, so this guy, I found the story. So this guy was just like, I'm Lucy's number one fan. And like through whatever means he met her and talked to her and he was he uh and she she comes up to him and she goes be my number one fan i like you but get a job get a life yes yeah i read about that good for her i mean yes correct It's not a job to be a fan of...

That's nice, but what are you doing? She gave him her cast from when she had broken... She's like, do you want this or should I throw it in the garbage? He's like, of course I want it. I found this guy's Twitter. He's still all in. Wow. Oh, he's around.

Yeah, yeah. He was like young at this. He was pretty young. I have a feeling she might hear about what we're doing and say, all right, be the top theme park fans, but get a real job too. Get a life. Who knows a Patreon net? Now, what's that?

What are you talking about? What are you doing? Learn a trade. Just get a TV show and did the 100 episode syndication. Just cross the syndication line. Just make 200 episodes and you'll be set forever hollywood is frustrating but if lucy gave us advice right now would it would like set everyone's problems like would we all like find that like following whatever advice lucy had for

us individually she would know she might most likely she seemed very smart her and desi both seemed pretty smart about the business um the anecdote I had about that I had to mention, I said that Carol Burnett and her were very close. It seems like it was a real mentor-mentee relationship. And apparently Carol Burnett always got flowers from Lucy delivered to her on her birthday. And Carol Burnett woke up, I believe it was her 56th birthday, 1989 when Lucy, woke up and found out lucy had died and then that afternoon received a bouquet of flowers that said with a note that

said happy birthday kid love lucy because clearly they were ordered ahead of time so kind of kind of a mix of spooky and sad and charming jeez yikes um you were saying i was just gonna say you know we had talked earlier on an episode and and this is not i don't get too excited because i don't have it full uh fully realized yet but it will have to happen at a different time okay i was trying to figure out if i could find a really good karaoke track to force jason to sing an old classic song that bill frawley covered on his classic album, Bill Frawley Sings the Old Ones. Oh, that's right.

We kind of hatched this plan. I couldn't find, I found a karaoke track of Swanee River. Yeah. But it sounds bad. I don't know. We could try it now. Oh, I think. You think we should try it now?

Do you have the lyrics to Swanee River? Well, that's karaoke. We'll take a couple, we'll take a couple minute break and come back uh just to give you a little time to prepare isn't it a karaoke though does it have to go along with the the lyrics does that mean the lyrics it doesn't mean the lyrics aren't appearing it's just a youtube of swanee river okay so there does have to be a bit of i was trying to see if we could just completely is what you're saying is just spring it immediately but there has to be a bit of... I was trying to see if we could just completely... What you're saying is just spring it immediately, but there has to be a little bit of preparation here.

Okay, okay. Well, then here, let's do that. Am I ready to say you survived Podcast the Ride, Lucy Attribute Edition, perhaps the episode with the least content related to the actual attraction, but hopefully a fun launching point to talk about all this lucy nonsense in some way that you could argue the most uh applicable to the well it's like we created an audio museum that's right that's what i'm saying so essentially and an idea for a great new attraction lucy rise

of a tribute uh uh so, as we said earlier, this did not end up behind the paywall, but there's a lot of other fun stuff behind the paywall. The second gate at patreon.com slash podcast the ride, and as always, follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. So now we're at the point, we shouldn't do too much prep. No, no, no. We shouldn't, I do have the lyrics.

I do want to say just a heads up i will do this but i do not endorse still a longing for the old plantation i am not still alone that's good get ahead of that yeah yeah very good i think that's the main problematic thing i think so many of these old songs are really problematic you don't even don't even do that lyric is Is there another? Can we replace it with something? You know, like get around with station. Is there like a food station?

Still longing for the Lucy tribute? Still longing. We'll see. We'll figure it out. Yeah, we'll give you a little taste right now. For Lucy and syndication. That's great. Great. Okay, if you can fit that in. Check out my TV. I believe, me TV.

I believe they have I Love Lucy. Wait, so it's not a karaoke? No, no, I'm just playing this so the audience knows the Frawley version real quick. Oh, here. He's really milking it. Voice of an angel. That's where my heart is turning. angel and this is now picture with with this fred mertz in a straw hat no no no i not a big smile barbershop yes very barbershop mode so now hold on a second jason in the same getup and perhaps we'll add with a fox hunter uniform so officially called

old old folks at home uh the wikipedia uh the first sentence oh Old Folks at Home is a minstrel song. All right. Yeah, you're all right. All right, fine. Maybe we do a different song. No. Wait, wait. But since 1935, it has been the official state song of Florida. Great. With the lyrics having been changed.

That doesn't make it better. Oh, sure it does. The whole of our favorite parts. The lyrics were revised in 2008. So I will see if I can find the revised lyrics. How about we could also just do it a song called Pretty Baby. But he doesn't. I bet you don't know Pretty Baby.

You don't. It's going to be a real mess. Yeah. I don't see a problem with Swanee. All right. Well, if we get canceled, we'll find out. If you get to see you, it's all It's Dependent on you finding the 2008 lyrics Who wrote new

It was someone's job to come up with new Bernie Taupin And came up with new lyrics Swanee River 2008 My favorite updated song Since Candle in the Wind 97 I've got it on the official Florida Department of State website.

This is a government written song. These new more progressive lyrics. The government that destroyed the country but also gave us a great new... Check the lyrics to make sure they're not worse. There's a chance the lyrics were worse than the old one

which is already problematic very pro-insul song now sarah palin's newspapers 2008 baby the good thing we know though is that no one's listening so we'll be all right yeah yeah yeah this this got this got as sloppy as drunk episodes are and we're yeah we're just we're just drunk on lucy we're drunk on vitamin this is wholesome yeah are we ready to do it uh i guess we can go right into it all right let's see if it let's see how the track is well so here to take us out uh what's the name of the album you just put jason's name in it oh uh jason sheridan sings the old ones? Jason Sheridan sings the old ones. Where do you start?

Wait, I have to go back. We gotta go back. We gotta screw it up. This one's awful. There's not a ton of karaoke tracks for Swanee River. awful there's not a ton of karaoke track for swanee river way down upon the swanee river you're doing the mertz version yeah yeah hold on okay Okay, one more time.

Way down upon the Suwannee River Far, far away That's where my heart is turning ever That's where the old folks stay All up and down the whole creation sadly I roam still longing for my childhood

station and for the old folks home yeah alright wow best end of an episode I can think of wow you know we'll get a mastered version we'll get a real All right. Wow. Best end of an episode I can think of. Wow. You know, we'll get a mastered version. We'll get a real studio cut.

That was the demo. Yeah, that was just... We'll nail it. We'll not get down, but pretty good with no prep. That was wonderful. Thanks for listening, everybody. Wow. I feel like I'm on the river right now.

You took me there. Yeah, I feel like I'm in Florida. All right. Sure. California, I feel like I'm in Florida. All right. Sure. California, here we come. Goodbye. Forever Dog.

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