Podcast: The Ride - Men In Black: Alien Attack
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Welcome to Podcast the Ride, a show hosted by three men who are still mad at each other
due to a week's old conversation about hypothetical Japanese travel itineraries.
I'm Jason Sheridan, joined this week by Mike Carlson.
Yeah, I'm here and I'm mad. Yeah, I'm upset as well.
And Scott Geradur.
Well, I'm really the source of it. Yeah, I'm upset. And Scott Gerarder? Well, I'm really the source of it.
Yeah, Scott's fault.
I feel like I got all of my energy about it out of the way a while back.
This was weeks ago, we're talking already.
Yeah, so I've calmed down because I was the most agitated,
and I've realized what a monster I was.
I feel like my feeling, If I didn't convey it before
We're talking about how many days you spend
At Tokyo Disney
And I think you know look it's expensive
To travel if you're going to go to Japan
You want to you know you want to spend a lot of days
But you'd
You know you don't have infinite time
And the parks are expensive
And you know to devote
Four days to But that's what the twitter
overwhelmingly when we had twitter people were like jason's right four days well but you know
they're all correct yeah think about uh you mean who is following our podcast yes they're all mega
fans as are we look i just think i know how I am and I know how we are.
Best to build in some buffer.
If the compromise,
I guess, would be... I can feel the tension
starting to boil over here.
We should probably curb this before...
I guess I'm ripping
Mike's comic book omnibuses
that I'm sitting next to.
I'm ripping them in half
like a phone book.
Don't take your anger out
on Mike's comic books.
Yeah.
I guess the compromise
could be two at disney sea
one at tokyo disney which makes mike right i just recently yeah that's a fair person you're you're
the compromise number so yeah uh uh but i also just recently read like a list of like uh uh
the top hotels around tokyo disney and was amazed at how affordable like very nice looking hotels
are looking up numbers of uh yeah well this is very fascinating it's also it is cheaper i believe
admission is cheaper it is cheaper yeah oh yeah a lot i think it's like 60 a day right 65 maybe a
little more but i think much cheaper than our parks our friend andrew
grissom who i feel like i keep mentioning on the podcast for various reasons he just he just went
none of us have been and he just went and he was like oh two's fine two for sure very firm but he
only went he went to tokyo disney sea once and then i was peppering him with questions did you
go here did you do this did you drink in the teddy roosevelt lounge no he didn't no he didn't like he was missing all these things and it's like he
but he's a cat he's more casual with it so of course he hit all the rides and he liked the
rides maybe he went on i think one of the rides twice i forget but like he's missing that's what
i'm saying we like to go to the hotels we like to go to the different lounges we have to cocktail
in different places sure that takes time and exploration.
Yeah.
And he missed all of that stuff.
So, look.
I'm mad.
I'm so mad.
I may also just be playing fast because, like, if I go, I would be going, like, as a single
man.
Like, I can do whatever I want.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not tied down.
You can wander around these children's parks from hotel lobby to hotel lobby
for an unlimited upsetting amount of time you know i'm going to some hotel lobbies i absolutely am
i think my opinion is also uh it is they're certainly informed by as i've gone over my
unpleasant disneyland paris experience and the feeling that we had of like oh my god we're here
we're trapped here we are this we're in this place where food is bad and where aesthetics are abrasive.
Now, this I think would be less the case in Tokyo Disney.
Well, Disney City, again, best park in the world.
That's what people say.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That does soften it.
But you're also, I don't think you guys know this,
that when Aaron and I went to Disney World the first time together,
I think our trip was i think it was seven days six nights and we had some dread on the first night we were like we're oh we're here we're in weird suburban orlando we
were staying off so we actually thought that was a little too much so and that's i know you guys
do a you do a 10 day we have different brains, without blinking. We have different brains. Yeah, 10-day.
I know what you're saying.
I think the first time I went to – the first time I had been back to Orlando,
which was like 2012, I think.
I hadn't been in 10 years.
And we were there, and I never felt like that feeling.
But I remember feeling like, ah, maybe it's time to go.
Maybe this is different than Disneyland.
Disneyland is for sure better.
Then I went last
september which is what three or something years later more than three um and then you start to
get a little more familiar with it and then of course i'm a maniac and i went in march
and i'll be be honest i've been craving going back to orlando more and more each time how many
what were the lengths of your stays let's get some facts and figures on this podcast. The original, I think we did like six nights, seven days.
And I think then maybe we did like a day longer last fall.
And then I was there for a short time, comparably five days or so in March.
And I do think you like a shorter, punchier situation.
In general, I think.
I think leave me wanting more instead of feeling bored.
Yeah, but there's so much.
Look, we've got to get to other topics here.
But like, I discovered.
Reopened.
I didn't mean to reopen.
You said it, Jason.
You said it at the start.
What do you think is going to happen?
I was so pleased with myself for writing that joke down
because sometimes I struggle to come up with those.
It's not even a joke.
It was just like, let's talk about this again.
All right, a statement.
I was so pleased with myself.
I know.
You're always pleased with yourself.
Well, that is true.
But I mean, I'm just saying I went to Orlando
and this last time I went to Orlando is when,
because I had been recently,
I got to do what I think is some of the best stuff, sit at the abracadabra bar over in the hotel, in the magic themed bar and have a couple of Manhattans.
That was one of my favorite things I did all trip and much reminiscent of what we get to
do at Disneyland because we live so close and have the annual pass.
Be chill at these places.
Yes.
So when I'm talking about Tokyo DisneySea, I see this Teddy Roosevelt lounge and I get we get to do at Disneyland because we live so close and have the annual pass. Be chill at these places. Yes.
So when I'm talking about Tokyo DisneySea, I see this Teddy Roosevelt Lounge and I get the big wolf eyes because I go, we're going to spend two nice hours in the middle of the
day having a couple cocktails in this themed boat.
And that's honoring one of our best presidents.
One of our best lunatic presidents.
Yeah, he was a madman, but he's perfectly represented.
I like the current breed of madman.
He's a different type.
A more folksy, lovable one.
I think what it drives at to me is,
I think there's a bigger issue here,
which is like, I like this stuff enough
to do this whole podcast about it,
but do you guys
ever hit a limit are you ever like i can't talk about this more today i can't be at this place
because i love it more than most human beings but like you know my my that i'll go to disneyland
for just a couple hours i will hit a wall of just like i have to have a real item of food i can't
look at these signs and be around these crap like i i just i do have a level
i think that's a reason i think it's reasonable to overload on anything i mean certainly uh
comedy or comic book any of my areas of interest uh passion you go in and ask like you can just
soft serve ice cream soft serve ice cream go like god damn it i want some hard packed for once
yeah i i i'm trying to think like i get that way more about vegas vegas i spent there was one trip
like four days in vegas and four days is far too much like i like three might be perfect for me i
could not find a vegetable like we kept going to restaurants, and there was just no salad on the menu.
It was just hamburger after hamburger.
And you're like, I got to eat a salad.
I got to sit down.
I got to relax.
I got very overwhelmed there after a couple days.
I assume there is a limit for my thing.
I assume it exists.
Do I know what it is?
I don't know.
You've never encountered it.
Well, I've encountered it.
There was a Disney day.
They had a 24-hour Disney event a few years ago.
It's before we knew each other.
Jason, I don't think you were.
I think it was just Lindsay and I.
There was one that I went down for at 2 or 3 in the morning.
Yeah, so we had been there for a while.
It was just there for the last couple hours.
And it was a real nightmare in regards to crowds.
And we couldn't even get in Disneylandneyland we were in california adventure mostly um but then there was all this word that
we were going to be allowed because the hatbox ghost was debuting and we really wanted to see
that goddamn hatbox ghost god so imagine like that was only a few years ago that they're like
the park's open for 24 hours straight also we put in a new thing. Also, all Paris's are clear.
It's just insane to me.
I remember, yeah.
Different time, pre-Star Wars time.
Yeah, so we were waiting in California Adventure
and at like one or two or three,
I mean, that's, you know, you get tired, of course.
And then there was word,
they're gonna let people back into Disneyland.
The fire chief, the fire marshal
is going to let people in Disneyland Disneyland. The fire chief, the fire marshal is going to let people in Disneyland.
So then we started congregating, and it was turned into this bizarre mob scene of people
waiting California Adventure's exit to get to Disneyland.
And people started getting a little unruly.
There was a weird, bad vibe in the crowd.
And I remember going like, we should leave.
This is too much.
There's too many crowds. 99 or something yeah i was like
we're gonna get crushed to death because people want to see the hatbox ghost oh i had a weird
like crowd back up a couple years ago on main street like right after christmas stuff had gone
out it was like a thursday at noon and like somehow the there was a parade starting in like 40 minutes. The street was already packed
and they just weren't doing a bad job
of like this goes this way
and this goes this way
and people started to get like,
just go.
I want to move.
And it's just like,
oh God, I'm going to get crushed.
So yeah,
there was a similar vibe to that.
I'm going to,
so we're feeling like, okay, that's it. We got to go. similar vibe to that i'm gonna but so so we're
feeling like okay that's it we gotta go okay so lindsey and i we we walk we're leaving we get out
the exit and we see on twitter disneyland entrance now people are now being let in as soon as we exit
and we're like uh so we go back up to the exit and we explain what had just happened we're like
can we just because there was a huge line to even get in still at three in the morning the security line was not
moving it was backed up we explained like we just got out of here blah blah blah blah and a guy was
nice enough he goes if anybody he goes if anyone yells at you tell them i let you do this and he
was very nice we should have gotten his name and put a thing in because he's certainly underpaid
um and then we went to then we went into disneyland and it all the dread i had been feeling
floated away i was back in disneyland it was 3 30 a.m it was going down main street it was a
spooky atmosphere and you're like man i think i don't get to hang out here doing this at this time
and then i started appreciating it from a different angle we went on the haunted mansion
and it was like the spookiest haunted mansion because it was legit in the middle of the night there was a new ghost i remember like lindsey was like because
she was like loopy because it was so goddamn late she was like we were seeing all the extra photos
of hatbox ghost on the wall she's like oh there like she was extra scared we got to see him we
left the park and we were so happy that we did. So, like, I'm saying, like, there'll be moments, but I can come back from them.
They are not, like, stop all.
They're not.
At the absolute dark, at one dark night of the soul at 3.30 in the morning under the worst conditions in Disneyland history.
Yes.
This is like.
I turned it around.
If I asked my dad, like, have you ever questioned your faith or Catholicism or believing in God?
Like, well, one time I was, like, about to die.
The plane was dovetailing for 20 seconds.
And then back on track.
And I'm all about...
Like, you're...
By the way, I don't want the...
I like these answers.
This is how I want it to be.
Like, we all do at our speed. I like that this is how i it's how i want it to be like we all do at
our our speed i like that this is as different as any of us are this is not a podcast where it's
like one of them likes disneyland and the other one doesn't like that we this is this is as
different as any of us get like i prefer to only do 10 hours instead of 19 i to get i'm getting really probably very dark but i get i really i start to
think about my own mortality in relation to everything i do i think like at concerts or
like going to disney or going to orlando i start going well if i live to this like i can go to
orlando if i go like every couple years i'm only going to really get there like 20 more times like you go like that's not enough
you relate all of it to Orlando
well I'm just saying anything
your life's path is how many times you can fit in Orlando
Florida I kind of get that you have a long dark
night of the soul you look for comfort
I don't do it every night but
I think about stuff like that I think about
oh man yeah
this is going to be a fun thing to do and I'll
remember it and if you if you could
like open a magic envelope from heaven and it told you how many more times you were gonna get
to be in orlando before you die would you do it oh i would i probably horror movie can you change
can you change it then that's the difference that's the question in any film of this nature
how does what's the nature of fate can you change fate you change fate these are the difference that's the question in any film of this nature yeah how does what's the
nature of fate can you change fate you change fate these are the questions that this envelope
film will ask i mean what is this the box i think it's like the box it's a disney park
centric version of the box i i like i like doing this podcast because i do think that
one way or another,
it will lead to us having to just go to Orlando for casual trips.
I don't know if that's because we'll be doing live shows
or because we'll be full-time Imagineers.
Yeah, the once a month live show.
Or we just have community service we have to do down there
to pay off something we've done.
But I love the idea.
We've moved into the Florida project slums.
The Patreon did not go well.
Hey, fine.
That's fine with me.
We lost.
The Patreon took money away from us?
How did we get more negative money than we already are?
This thing is cursed.
But we end up in Orlando anyway.
I mean, I love the idea of just going to Orlando for a three-day weekend, too.
I love the idea of punching in and punching out in Orlando.
I've always been curious what that's like, yeah.
And like, yeah, doing a couple parks, and then you go, well, we'll be back in six months.
It's no problem.
We'll do the other thing.
This is not what you're already doing, essentially.
Well, I'm trying.
My commercial stopped airing.
You are thinking about your own mortality.
I am, yeah.
I think about it all the time you know what
we can't be grim like this we have to think about a brighter future and i know the man who's gonna
lead us there the eventual mayor of disneyland jason sheridan a better land is possible a better
world is possible um i the uh just to take us into this that we we haven't talked about hashtag
jason for for dlLR in a little bit.
I think you're going to bring some hope to this place and to Mike's life.
Hopefully.
To recap though.
Yeah.
If you just started listening to this episode, um, we were talking about, uh, there are mayors
for the respective theme parks, Disneyland and Disney world.
There are mayors of main street and it was a position we found, Lindsay and I discovered,
when we were there on one of the anniversary days.
And they were like, ladies and gentlemen, the mayor of Disneyland.
And he came out and we're like, what the hell?
There's a man at the top hat that's called the mayor.
Yeah.
And we want our own Jason Sheridan many years from now.
Or honestly, I mean, today, fine, too.
But, I mean, many years from now to run and successfully win and become the mayor of Disneyland.
We recently have come across some new information,
and I thank people on Twitter for alerting us to this,
but there's a podcast called Obsessed with Joseph Scrimshaw,
and he did an episode devoted to the Disney parks,
and his guest was Mark Gagliardi,
who is a
podcaster as well and
participant in the thrilling adventure hour
and he this
this person
served as the mayor of Disneyland
or the mayor of Main Street
right I think one issue with this
position is that if we don't know what it is
specifically you're the mayor
of
that's it you're gonna clean that up Jason you't know what it is, specifically you're the mayor of,
you're going to clean that up, Jason. You'll know your own jurisdiction.
Yeah, well, I'd likely expand the scope of powers,
like a president who issues a lot of executive orders.
Well, and you would have to,
I feel like they probably didn't count
California Adventure as part of it,
but you certainly would annex it.
Certainly not.
They wouldn't have had plans for that in 55, but you certainly would annex it. Certainly not.
They wouldn't have had plans for that in 55, you know?
They wouldn't have been thinking that far ahead.
Yeah, whenever the town's statutes were put on the parchment and whenever Walt approved There was an Articles of Confederation for a few years before there was finally a constitution
on Main Street, much like America.
I'm suddenly worried about a civil
war situation where california adventure is like the confederacy and uh what if what if some
right i shouldn't we're trying to be positive here i'm putting a dark spin on this yeah but
some rival the arrival mayor of california adventure uh tried to usurp half of your power
i mean i think we have thankfully dodged that. I think that was coming.
It would have come in 2012 when they actually see,
when California Adventure newly empowered, newly revitalized.
And as we can see now, it's been six years
and already stuff is starting to be rolled back.
That's what you're going to, you have to keep,
there has to be one ruler to lead them all. And that's going to be rolled back. That's what you're going to... You have to keep... There has to be one ruler
to lead them all,
and that's going to be you.
But this podcast was interesting
because it shed some light
on some specifics
about the actual role,
mainly that it is fake.
It was a...
This man is an actor
and a performer,
and he shared this duty
with three other actors.
Mark Gagliardi seems like a fascinating guy.
We'd love to talk to him.
But he not only was one of four mayors of Main Street during the 50th anniversary in 2005,
he was also many different performer roles in the parks, including the genie in the Aladdin show in California Adventure.
My favorite.
Yes.
I know a passion of mike's
um but also so but it was interesting to hear what actually the mayor did and it seems like
there are a couple of main duties and you can listen to this podcast yourself to hear all of
it but but one of them is that during the 50th anniversary he would give a little speech up atop
the uh the train station before they let everybody in at
10 in the morning or what have you and he'd make a speech surrounded by the big five oh yeah uh
mickey donald's uh goofy pluto stitch yeah stitch home on the range cow now it is new lando now new
now donald glover lando is is in the big five but this was in 2005 it was
different and uh so he would give a speech kind of uh a little bit in the spirit of walt's original
address opening disneyland and then he would get to release doves uh doves would fly at his command
uh i want to just rehash their podcast but they're homing doves and they would go back to the dove
guy's house which i thought was weird they fly they would go back to the dove guy's house, which I thought was weird.
They fly into the air.
Wow, really?
And wherever the dove guy is in the Orange County area,
he goes back to their balcony or whatever, I guess.
Well, that's going to change immediately
because I want fresh doves every day.
What happens to the doves?
Doves get slaughtered?
They're not going to come back?
What happens?
They are off to live their lives.
They've done their service and they are freed. live their lives you want to do they've done their
service you want to release untrained doves into the air so they just go somewhere i mean they
would be trained to fly and that's all birds need to do if you're releasing a bunch of doves each
day though there's going to be a weird like dove population that shows up in anaheim and they're
like going to start menacing people i I'm sure it'll be fine.
It's like the exotic parrots of Brooklyn.
Do you know about those?
I don't. A crate of exotic birds was like broken open
in the middle 20th century, I think,
in Brooklyn or around Brooklyn.
A gang of parrots going around?
A bunch of parrots have now like roosted
and you just occasionally see
like a weird multicolcolored parrot in brooklyn
weird still the case still the case yeah they started to multiply uh there's also uh uh i was
in kawaii a couple years ago and there's there's a lot of roosters running around roosters have just
uh you know like just taking their run of the place and they're uh what do you call a rooster
crow what is it's not a crow they aren't crows
what's uh oh you mean what's a cockadoodle do uh is it just that it's a cockadoodle they're
cockadoodling yeah all day oh yeah um so maybe it's you're saying it's a orange county if you
live in fullerton or garden grove you just doves are around and that's how it is now and deal with
it i think it would be a bonus beautification for our friendly neighbors i mean i like that you're
using your mayor voice now too sure hello there yeah you're getting a little more i mean that's
this guy mark did did kind of uh he summarized his speech and uh ladies and gentlemen uh oh i
think oh he talks about how he says thank you mickey
uh uh so you got a real like husky actor voice and you just make sure you're in you're in line
with that keep working the throat um but he also then he grand marshaled the parade yeah that's
cool which seems like so i i see you doing that no problem visualize that happily um yeah a great voice uh great uh physical stamina you're gonna be great
anybody who any naysayers out there think jason can't do this no fuck why um yeah i don't think
anyone's offered a reason to not uh um but i i yeah i don't know i think what what this shed a
light on for me is that these duties were largely uh ceremonial and i think and now i don't know. I think what this shed a light on for me is that these duties were largely ceremonial.
And I think, and now I don't know what's going on with the, when you experienced this mayor
announcement at a different anniversary, maybe the mayor has more power.
But I think obviously we would want, with Jason installed, we don't want you to just
be a figurehead.
We want you to get some stuff done.
No, I've got planks in a platform
yeah i think i think look the man makes the position i mean you we can and we just got to
get you in and then i think at that point then you know you can start calling the shots then we can
start passing stuff and amending things and yeah at that point yeah then it won't be there's not
going to be a ceremonial position and you're not going to share that with other people like you're
talking about this guy shares like the role of mayor with other actors no no no no that's
one thing in 2005 but yeah and then you're gonna be there seven days a week yeah walt's apartment
is mine yep yeah yeah that is my office slash yeah your first corner first act as mayor is to
take away walt's apartment and turn it into
jason's apartment so then when you've passed on people will see there there'll be like a
light in there and they'll be like you know that's jason's office absolutely yeah jason
used to sleep down here jason reactivated the panini machine the hot plate do you you use the
old panini you're not bringing a new you you're not bringing a George Foreman grill in there.
No, those can get far too messy.
No, I will use the new one until I eventually start a small electrical fire.
I'm sure this 1950 building will be fine.
I'm not worried about it.
1960 hot plate.
I don't know.
What do we want to get done here?
Because it's our ticket, too, as part of the team.
I think, though, my feeling about it, I had come across this a little while ago,
is that before you even talk about what we're going to do,
it is like how are we going to win, okay?
So Disneyland, there is a history of campaigns at Disneyland,
and I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but in 1976, a famous character ran for president.
And you're both looking at me.
I think I might know what I'm talking about.
Yes, I know.
You do?
Yeah.
Was it, can I guess?
Yes, go.
Was it Dumbo?
It was not Dumbo.
Oh, why is that in my head?
Pooh Bear? Jason is correct. It it Dumbo? It was not Dumbo. Oh, why is that in my head? Pooh Bear?
Jason is correct.
It is Winnie the Pooh.
All right.
And it was Winnie the Pooh for President.
Fresh off a water gate.
It was 72 and 76.
So during the-
72?
America needed hope.
And it was Winnie the Pooh for President.
And it was a whole thing that they did at Disneyland.
It was a campaign.
Let me show you some pictures, Scott, winning the poo for president oh and it's that old winning the poo
with the big and instead of a honey pot he's got a wait is that right is it a honey pot or is an
uncle sam it's an uncle sam hat all right good for him so yeah there were free showings of poo
cartoons main street uh tigger tapepe Parade, Pooh-litical fundraising rally.
All children are invited to meet in front of It's a Small World
to join in the special parade
so children could come and participate in the political process.
Pooh actually got more electoral college votes than George McGovern.
That's true.
Pooh vastly more popular than George McGovern.
After McGovern's first VP was found out to be getting electroshock treatment,
Pooh picked up some more support.
Here's Winnie the Pooh for president.
A honey of a candidate, it says.
Wow.
There's all this propaganda.
He has a little book here.
Oh, boy.
I don't know.
I couldn't find why they decided that this was the character that
should run for president there's other characters i feel like might make a little more sense he's a
populist he's simple he doesn't overthink all these big highfalutin government ideas so i was
thinking like look this is like let's let's you know jason likes naps jason likes treats uh this
is what poooh likes.
Yeah.
So you're saying we have a model of the kind of campaign we want to run.
We have a template for what works at Disneyland.
Now, I also found, I don't know if you've seen this, Jason,
I found the song, Pooh's presidency song.
Very good.
This is exciting research, Mike. This is called Poo for President.
And we'll see how much I play on this.
It's by Bob Dylan.
It's by a man named Larry Gross.
And I'll play the whole thing.
Let's see what we do.
I'm proud to nominate a bear who's been a friend to me A bear whose name and story are known by a million seed to seed
And so right now, without more words or any more ado
I give you our next president, the Honorable Winnie the Pooh
Pooh, our president, a vote for Winnie the Pooh
Pooh, our president, who is right for you?
He's pleased as punch, yes, who's the one? Stand up and cheer our favorite son.
Who, poor president, a vote for me to prove?
Thank you, thank you. If I'm elected, I make a promise to all you girls and boys.
I'll do away with taxes on bicycles and toys. A bit of honey in every
pot will be my golden rule. And each of you will have a snack when you come home from school.
Barely have to change. President, who is right for you? The people's choice, the bear for you
All the way with W.T. Boo Boo
For President, vote for Winnie the Pooh
Christopher Robin is the head advisor on my team
My running mate is Piglet, a pig of great esteem
My cabinet is composed of Howell, Dior, and Tigger too
My chief of staff is T Kanga and her assistant Rue.
Thank you, Boo.
Now let me say, you folks must make the choice
of who is in the country's heart, who has the people's voice.
And while the words of elephants and donkeys fill the air,
perhaps you'll find that now's the time to vote for Pooh the Bear.
Pooh for President.
Pooh for President.
Oh, man.
I was like, I bet one verse and chorus will do it.
I didn't know some weird wrong Pooh was going to come in.
Well, I think, yeah, I guess it was Sterling Holloway dead at this point.
Yeah.
And it wasn't yet Jim Cummings doing the poo. We could look that up.
It's a shame Kanga and Rue
went to jail for so long
for money laundering on that campaign.
But, I mean, they did find
the rest of the campaign did not
realize it was going on.
Tigger knew nothing.
Yeah, that's at least how a judge
ruled. I think it's interesting
that we forget he is the honorableorable Winnie the Pooh,
which is an honorific, meaning he has served in some sort of diplomatic role
or judgeship or elected official before.
In the Hundred Acre Woods, probably.
Oh, yeah.
He was the comptroller of the Hundred Acre Woods.
They can make up whatever laws they want there.
Here, I will put this on the Twitter, but these are all, this is all
the newsreel footage of Pooh and the Pooh for President.
Wow.
Pooh in 72.
Win with Winnie, it says.
He's in the fire truck in a parade.
A little boy who's excited.
Again, America was really real.
Ah!
Fuck!
Oh, I'm okay.
That is not okay.
Oh, yeah, and then look at this piglet.
Ew.
We all gasped because there was a shot of Kanga,
and then Rue popped out of her pouch.
Like an alien, a xenomorph.
A little hole opened up.
That was very frightening.
I bet this was good for morale after Vietnam and Watergate.
This was during. 72, it's in progress. Yeah. After Vietnam and Watergate, like this was...
This is during, 72, it's in progress.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, you're right.
So there's a whole, there's Eeyore and Tigger on one of those like, what do you call that?
Rail.
One of those rail things where one person pushes up and the other person...
So we're in a dark time in American politics and Disney turned it around. Obviously, Disneyland has only things to gain
from bringing the political process
into the parks today.
Of course, yeah.
I'm sure that will go very smooth.
Also, that song reminded me a lot
of the It Don't Worry Me song
from the movie Nashville.
Sure.
Yeah, there's a vibe to that.
Yeah, so I think that we just take some of that.
Like Pooh was saying,
he'll make sure everyone has a snack. Snack after school. Yeah, absolutely. think that we just take some of that, like Pooh was saying, he'll make sure everyone has a snack.
Snack after school.
Yeah, absolutely.
A snack after school.
You have to tide yourself over for dinner.
I think a lot of the things...
It's also good for your metabolism
to eat smaller portions throughout the day.
That's a good point.
So yeah, I think that's going to be a big part
of your mayoral candidacy.
Should we get into the food planks of my platform?
Because I have numerous. Oh, sure, yeah. Winnie's led the way, so absolutely. candidacy should we get into the food planks of my platform because i have oh sure yeah numerous
uh winnie's led the way so absolutely uh well mike you and i were down uh recently checking
on the parks looking at we were checking in on the parks that's what we call it shaking hands
diplomatic tour yeah uh uh we did meet a very nice listener on main street that was very nice constituent a constituent yeah um uh and i have to say the thing that really tickled me when we
were down that day was a limited time offering at the corn dog castle uh it is a triple kind of
creation with a a cajun uh uh dog like a Cajun link.
And then a block of melted pepper jack cheese.
Sure.
And then a mini hot link on top of that.
And this was just dynamite.
I think first thing, we got to make that a permanent menu item at the Cornwall Castle.
What is it called?
Oh, man.
We got to look this up now.
Look it up.
It's part of the Pixar Fest foods.
It's going to be called a Jason dog to jason dog soon called a jason special
the mayor came with a very interesting uh like ghost pepper blackberry sauce that i was less
hot on i like that this is your number one this is your number one thing in your campaign is to
make this special corn dog available all year round but you need to start uh that's all well
and good but you know that felt to me like a casual request and i But you need to start, that's all well and good, but that felt to me like a casual request
and I think you have to start presenting these things.
They will.
This corn dog must be served all year round.
You're right.
This special is good enough to promote.
And this is why you guys are my campaign advisors.
Just little nudges.
The message is there.
It's just getting the delivery sure you have
to shape a cannon it's called uh you'll find it just says incredible spicy corn dog yes uh it was
very good uh secondly uh we need to redo that recently opened abominable snowman ice cream
window oh lemon soft serve just will not do far too tart for me and this you started eating
it and you were you had an unpleasant fate your face was very you you did not care for how tart
it was i did not care for i also did not care that it was promised uh white chocolate uh on top
i was expecting a full hard dip and it was merely a drizzle. It was a drizzle of white
chocolate on this tart. And you were
expecting like a shell,
like the magic, the Hershey's magic shell.
Like a magic shell or the dip cones
in Cars Land. I think
this ice cream window should just
be a selection of dips.
I think we should just stick to
basic ice creams
and we should have a bevy of dips.
Mike, I know you've talked fondly of the cherry dip.
That's only available, as far as I know, in Schaumburg.
I mean, it's probably available other places,
but it's not available at nearby Dairy Queens.
Regional Dairy Queens?
It's only grandfathered into old Dairy Queens.
We need to find local innovations throughout this country
and bring them into the parks.
Bring the best of what this
country has to offer because that's what
happens in the park. It's a melting
pot of people from all across
the world and it should be a melting pot
of ideas as well. I agree, yeah.
Let's pivot now to
transportation infrastructure.
One, and I think this is
a given, we need to start
running the Mark Twain riverboat at night
we need to get those phantasmic performers off and then get that boat back to the docks
so uh guests may enjoy it in the the darkened evening mayor jason's midnight ride it could be
a good place oh yeah to talk it's your it's's where your fireside chats will take place.
It's your Teddy Roosevelt's lounge.
A place to meet and greet and hear people's tales, complaints, or just share stories and a good laugh and a good cigar smoke.
Absolutely.
Similarly, for my constituents in California Adventure, we need to rewrap the Paint the Night Parade.
So that trolley is never interrupted service.
How?
How do we allow 20 to 30 minute increments of trolley downtime?
Unbelievable.
More trolley.
More trolley.
Similarly, let's let the main street vehicles always run.
We need to do something.
Why do they stop running?
Sure.
During the fireworks shows.
During the fireworks show.
You might be mad with power.
Well, we can open to suggestions.
Well, perhaps we could get rid of whatever parade,
the Pixar play parade that's happening now,
and it's just a parade of Main Street vehicles
at like 20 minutes.
I mean, that could be something.
Just the cars driving down the street.
Maybe.
Everyone waves.
Maybe you're onto something.
Maybe it's a mirror.
Maybe the Main Street vehicles,
they run in the morning as the park is opening.
Maybe the last hour of the day is crowds have thinned a bit they run again uh for one last ride at night all right well that's
i'm mr bear if that's the way you feel that's what you feel about it i i trust your judgment on this
i think it's i for one think it's brave that uh all of your issues are uh minor and transportation
based and are not uh ideas for exciting new rides or experiences for children
uh i think it's brave for a candidate to run on nitpick and nitpick alone uh i've got more
well we enjoyed uh uh we enjoyed using the uh uh the max pass of course yes app on our phones
that was the first time i had tried it. I enjoyed it.
But I have to say, I found it a little confusing initially.
And when we walked into some ride entrances, I could hear others having some difficulty navigating the app.
How would you fix that?
I think a basic infographic slideshow within the app of saying here is what this is here is how it works
here are some examples uh would go a long way what about a max pass uh information center
in somewhere like the main street cinema which nobody goes into where they just play the old
mickey cartoons all day uh why why have that going when you could educate people? Maybe if you get the Max
Pass, you have to do a quick stop and watch
it. It could be a fun video. We could
all make the video. It'll be a great place
to get your face out there.
I'm open to that. Look, I still want those
old cartoons playing, but I'm sure
we could sacrifice one of the screens.
Well, they're silent anyway. Yes, just one screen
becomes an informational video about
how to get the Max Fun out of your max pass.
I disagree.
Well, we're not always going to see eye to eye.
It's going to be a good video, though.
When we're writing the fun jokes,
explaining the ins and outs of ride booking systems,
it'll be as funny as this podcast.
I love the ins and outs of ride booking systems,
so that will be fun.
Sure.
Mr. Mayor, do you have more?
Also, I wish there was a limited time
fried bologna sandwich at one of the restaurants.
Wait, what?
I think they should have put that at more restaurants
because that sounds like an interesting novelty.
Has that ever been at one of those parks?
It's right now.
It's the up-themed
fried,
uh,
Carl's sandwich
is at the
Kardashian Cafe.
there's a fried bologna.
There's a fried bologna sandwich.
I'll be honest,
Mr. Mayor,
in all candor,
uh,
that seems,
uh,
disgusting.
Fried bologna,
to me,
seems like,
uh,
gross.
I think that's a fine,
uh,
little nugget of Americana.
Is this a,
this is a menu item
that the old cranky man
in Up would want to eat?
I believe that's the theme to it.
If we get more on that list, is it just adding menu items that the cranky old man from Up would enjoy?
In fact, now that I think about it, all of these things, the cranky old man from Up would want.
He wants more cars running.
He wants a boat working at night.
He sounds like a very wise old man and i think
maybe we should look into bringing him onto the campaign he doesn't want any brett kids around
yeah no um well anyway just some uh current working uh things going on in the uh policy
office yeah like is there like good like a good roller coaster you'd want to put in or is it or
just baloney is the primary?
Oh, I mean, we got to do something about that Matterhorn.
I mean, we got to pull some engineers or something.
We got to smooth that track.
Just because it's a mountain doesn't mean I want to feel like I fell down the mountain
when I ride it.
Like, you had a back crippling injury.
You fell off the mountain every time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Back pain concerns,
also something that Carl from Up would be.
There's a lot of parallels here.
I'll say this.
I'll take back the poo presidency
and the poo campaign.
I think it's a little bit too young,
skewing, and too hip.
We really maybe need to retool.
We need to focus, like, what Carl would have done, how Carl would have run a campaign.
The Pooh thing, I think, is too youthful, I think.
Yeah.
All right. Well, then, that means we're in line with Jason's desires.
That's what I'm saying.
Is there going to be a minimum voting age?
Children don't get to vote for the mayor of Disneyland?
I feel like
children should have their say.
But if you want this
agenda, and if you end up with
some kid pandering
candidate like poo against
you. Well, this may already have been
decided. This may be long
decided. Unless we
start changing the laws now
setting the laws for the first time because everything we're talking about is made up
and i don't uh this is assuming that disney itself has any participation in this do they run the the
election uh they would reset the road because if we're the electoral committee then we can
we have free reign over this thing. Sure.
That's a good point.
Well, I find gerrymandering disgusting in American politics.
I'm open to doing it in this campaign.
Yeah.
For the sake of an imaginary place.
We need to get you in here at all costs. Once you're in it, it's going to be a positive change.
But look, I'm willing to play dirty.
So yeah, kids.
We know what people need.
We'll have kids vote a couple times
let's be honest yeah we don't care this is gonna happen they call it rat fucking in american
politics we're gonna call it mouse fucking mouse helping and remember hashtag jason for dlr And remember, hashtag Jason4DLR. If you want to help get out the vote,
help raise awareness for this man.
Undoubtedly are more on board now than ever before.
Once you hear some of the other ideas,
I think most people out there are going to be very excited about this.
Super.
The trolleys and the little cars and the baloney.
A lot of big possibilities, know that's not today's
topic astoundingly yeah our today's topic is one that cannot be easily segued into from any of what
we were just saying it's men in black alien attack yeah this is a different uh park uh it's not about
mayors and there's no old grouches in it because tommy lee jones is not
in the ride there's like an old weirdo but he might not be as much rip torn yeah i assume
you mean and no yeah you wouldn't call it maybe in real life he's an old grouch i don't know but
yeah old weirdo is a better descriptor but of course will smith, who is the star of the Men in Black films, is in the ride.
Yes.
Which is a pretty exciting fact about it.
I think that I was pretty impressed at that time.
Because in the year 2000, is there any bigger film star than Will Smith?
No.
That's the top of the rock.
Music star?
Yeah.
The childish Gambino of 2000.
But in 2000, it was Big Willie style.
Also had a lot of different names and alter egos.
The Willenium was upon us.
The Willenium had just occurred.
There you go.
That's how it ties in.
On April 14th, 2000, this attraction opened.
The Willenium began.
Yeah, the Willenium began.
Men in Black Alien Attack.
The basics of this ride, if you've not been down there and been on it,
it is an arcade-style shooting game that came after Buzz Lightyear's Astro Blasters,
but before Toy Story Midway Mania.
It is different from those rides in that the targets are not explicitly labeled and spelled out,
but obviously the targets are aliens who have run amok in New York City.
And that's the thing.
I listened to the Season Pass podcast.
Just shout out Doug Barnes.
He interviewed, now I don't know the name,
but I think a couple people involved in the creation of this ride,
and I think they were proud of the fact that it's not like a bunch of a bunch of x's it doesn't it doesn't hold your hand through it like buzz
lightyear does where it's just like here it's a tar like literal targets yeah and they and it was
kind of a specific decision on their part because they didn't want to um they they felt like they
think they did like a test ride of buzz lightyear and they thought well you're just staring at x's
and you're not taking in any of the rest of what's going on and instead
it's you know these incredibly
well made alien
figures who all have a lot of personality
and are really well done. Usually aiming at their eyes
or something glowing on them.
Yeah I think the targets are mainly
in the eyes or just in the face
shoot them in the face.
Yeah I am a
fan I really always enjoyed this ride and i gotta
say especially compared to the florida buzz light year i think this is a much better execution of
that sort of arcade uh ride uh and i think it's more fun uh uh this is also a 2001 Thea Award winner for achievement in theme design.
Yeah.
Deserved.
So, we were talking about MaxPass, and my memories of this ride involve, so Universal Express.
Yes.
Is the equivalent at Universal to FastPass.
And I can't remember when exactly that launch but i
first would have used it in like 2002 2003 and it was striking how much more ad hoc it was that fast
fast ever was uh because a lot of those older rides were not really retrofitted for Universal Express. They just stuck up a handful of Universal Express logos
and sent you in the exit,
which from my memory led to occasional dirty looks
from people because they thought
you were just coming in the exit and cutting the line.
So the other thing was they weren't super good
about telling people what it was i
feel like there's a learning curve with how to use fast pass but they're pretty clear about this is a
thing now they've kind of smoothed this over when i first went down with my family and we stayed at
the hotel it was a lit we were a little like we figured it out pretty quickly but we were a little
confused that like so you just show your room key at the gate and that was literally it you would just walk up to the ride show your room key
and pretty much walk on the ride you're staying at the hotels you get the universal express you
get you get it for free at some of the hotels some of the the at the time it was all the hotels and
now they've built since built uh lower cost hotels where you don't get it included.
Okay.
But we, like, blew through rides.
Like, it really changed that kind of park.
Also, like, they would, when it was busy, they would scan your ticket.
Now they just scan it all the time.
When you go in to the the express line they scan it and
you can't use it for a little while at that ride again you can go on to another ride and use it
again immediately uh but at the time they were just kind of like yeah whatever come on and like
they didn't care so the first time uh uh going down there and riding this bed of black ride like
there was one day where my brother and i would just walk off the ride and walk right back on and just did it played it like five or six times
because we got into like all right best three out of five uh acting like you were the mayor of
universal studios pretty much you're running the place but um you have an affection for this because
you had a real fun like six in a row yes yeah and then eventually they they when i went back a few
years later they sent us at the front desk they're like oh you don't show your room key anymore and
you had to get a separate card with like a crappy version of your picture on it and that was your
express pass and then i went back last year and they're like oh yeah you just show your room key
and i'm like i guess they decided that was dumb to make people carry so many tiny pieces of paper on them they've
learned their own mistake you've hit a mistake a full oral history of the universal express pass
in this podcast yeah but I think like especially if you're even if you're just going to universal
for a day if you're going at a high crowd time, because you can buy a la carte, like you can buy a day Universal
Express pass and it's a little bit of money, but like you can, it definitely makes for
much more leisurely day.
Well, this has ruined the eventual all Universal Express episode.
Yeah, I know.
Now we can't do it.
We've gone too much into the details here.
Okay, so, but the reason I bring this up is.
Oh, I thought it was good just to say that you went on it over and over.
There's another reason you're talking about Universal Express?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
But talking about older rides, not taking it into account,
this one is confusing to me because this was built around the time
or shortly before they introduced Universal Express.
And the express line of this ride skips a significant portion of the queue.
Oh, well, yeah.
That's what some people want to happen, though.
But that happens to a lot of rides now, too.
Don't you think?
Like the Avatar ride, that's the case.
And it's also the case sort of with the Guardians ride with the fast passes you kind of skip the cool lines this is the trade-off
so this is the trade-off you know yeah it's got to cut through somewhere you got to take it out
somewhere so it's got to like bypass some of the cool stuff i think honestly as you're saying this
uh i was watching the ride video i think we for sure cut the ride last time i was on it i don't
think i've ever been in that cool part of the line i missed all the cool stuff the universe and you
because right i mean the story of this ride is that like you were going to like a it was a
preserved thing from the world's fair or they call it the world expo because i'm sure world's
fair is copyrighted and it's about like the universe and you and then the presentation
gets interrupted and rip torn starts yelling at you like we universe and you and then the presentation gets interrupted and rip
torn starts yelling at you like we gotta get you guys out of here and he's he's really fun and then
you get in an elevator and you go down deep under the earth to the mib headquarters and you have
been recruited right to the men in black yeah it's cool i mean it's i was looking i was like i don't
even remember this and it's like oh i must have gone on the express i mean because we we were staying on site so we were at the hard
rock hotel i knew that because i was like well if we pay this we're going to get the upgrade as you
were saying uh so we got the front of the line and yeah we must have skipped it because i was
like oh this is cool and i we should have not i think that yeah the the story that unfolds makes
this thing uh pretty interesting and that there's that there's a couple of twists that happen.
You know, the first one being you're in this fake World's Fair exhibit.
And then you get taken into the Men in Black headquarters.
And it was all front.
And then a very similar thing that you feel like you think that you're going on a training mission.
Yeah.
You're going to fire at kind of flimsy wooden targets like a firing range like
it's in the men in black film and then you round a corner and now you're on the street and it's
real aliens yes you were immediately put in a live fire war zone you went yes and it's a minute
of training to a live fire battle in the center of new york yes it's very cool um but yeah you're
right no the line is like it is one of the better lines
of universal if not the best line yeah that's a good what else would be better i mean the building
it looks great the building is fun looking and they have the old world's fair like towery things
in front and to look at what that was called it's the astro towers and their actual uh those those
are still up right in in flhing Meadows those are still remnants from
yeah the 64 World's Fair it's like E.T. has a pretty good fun line because but it's sort of
just the forest there's not like too many twists uh Simpsons is fine there's some fun stuff in
there but yeah this is probably like the best universal yeah this has the worms like that's
the other thing you bypass the break room with the worms I know you got the worms drinking the
coffee that's really fun you got the control room which is of course from that is it the scene of men in black 2 when michael
jackson does his cameo man oh man where he's the did i spoil something you were gonna talk about
later oh no i had no i was just i just wanted it to come up of course it's just one of the oddest
and you missed men in black 2 what a bizarre scene my memory of of of that or maybe i read a story about it was that michael asked if he was
going to be on the poster he knew his 45 second cameo or less in the film that he wanted to know
oh that's so good hooray also that would have ruined the cameo right sure of course but i don't
think he was even thinking in regards to it being a small... Now, he is on...
Okay, so to contextualize, the first Men in Black sets up the premise that aliens are among us and disguised as human beings,
and that some of our odder, more prominent celebrities are aliens in disguise.
Right.
And they heighten this in the sequel by actually including the real michael jackson who has done some mission and
then stays on the line with rip torn and asks to be part of men in black right and with the
indelible amazing delivery i could be agent m um it's a boy it just sits there it's and his
eyeline is weird and it's like a look that he didn't have terribly often it like was not a like an era of
michael that i reckon he is kind of this like well it's right around the pinocchio hair right
it's a right it's right around the comeback album yeah it must have been right after yeah because
movies in 2002 um but then there's this weird other thing uh that i i forgot about so you
reminded me that he is on the poster of a movie called Miss Castaway
that is a straight-to-video weird scam movie that's a combo parody of Miss Congeniality and Castaway.
Oh, my God.
Here it is.
Yeah.
What?
Look at this, Jason.
Oh, man.
The worst poster you've ever seen.
That is wild.
And they included it.
And he's in this film, Miss Castaway, for as long as he's in Men in Black 2.
And you know what else?
You know who he plays in it?
I don't.
Agent M.
Whoa.
He does the same thing.
And you can look up on YouTube the weird...
Okay, when you watch the movie, he's green screened in somewhere.
He's like in front of a glowing ethereal light.
And then you watch the behind the scenes and they filmed him in his fucking library.
Of course.
In front of a bunch of books.
And if anybody listening has ever dealt with green screen or like comping, like cutting people out and rotoscoping,
at least do like a blank white wall like what's behind you, Mike.
Yeah, there you go.
That's a shot.
Um,
that he's like a pattern.
If you're going to put somebody in a different environment,
like the complicated bookshelf is the worst thing they could be in front of
most busy pattern humanly possible.
Uh,
what I'm saying is I have doubts about the filmmaking prowess of the people
who made Miss Castaway.
And you know why I know about this movie?
Because when the series of books, such and such for dummies was out.
Yeah.
The book filmmaking for dummies is by the director of this.
And you like, I think I was probably starting to make videos at the time.
I'm curious.
And I started to feel like this book is bullshit.
What is this guy done?
Miss Castaway.
Who's in it?
Michael Jackson.
What the shit?
And then it became, you did like it because Michael was in it.
Now I'm on board with the writer and Miss Castaway.
I found a picture of Michael and Barry Sonnenfeld where he was shooting.
So he was not in his library.
See, what's this hair?
When you had that angled and you hadn't spun it towards us yet i thought that was like a picture of young paul
mccartney in a black suit because he's in the black is he in the men in black suit in the cameo
yeah michael yeah yeah yeah but he's not officially a man in black right oh what an
unflattering angle and his eyeline is weird yeah Yeah, the hair is very... Zed, I could be Agent M.
Hurry up and fix it, Hooter.
The line deliveries did not get better since Captain America.
Also, by J.K., would he have been immediately the next agent
after Laura Flynn Boyle was recruited in the first movie?
Oh, that's a good question.
Yeah, because they would go down just using...
No, I'm sorry.
Laura Flynn Boyle was the villain Serlina in number two.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sorry, Linda Fiorentino.
Oh, yeah.
Was she named Agent L?
Was her character also...
I'm not quite sure, but she was recruited.
Yeah, what happened to Linda Fiorentino?
Not even referenced, I don't think.
I think in the second one, there's reference to like...
They say it wasn't for her or something?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Will Smith's in a run of like deneuralizing his partners.
And in the beginning, he's paired with Patrick Warburton,
Disney Parks all-star Patrick Warburton.
He deneuralized them and eventually they've got to get...
They have to restore Tommy Lee Jones' memory,
and that's the plot of Men in Black 2.
Another thing I like about Men in Black 2 is the song,
Nod Your Head.
Oh, my God.
I thought this was going to be a hot take.
I love Nod Your Heads.
I wrote down, I like Nod Your Heads better.
Nod Your Head, it's singular.
Nod Your Head, Black Suit's coming.
Say it right.
Say Nod Your Head. Nod Your Head, parenthetical. Black Suit's coming. Uh-huh. more head it's singular nod your head black say it right say not your head not your head
parenthetical black suits come in uh-huh uh i like that more than men in black why that's crazy no
that is a hot take oh i thought you were on board for this okay i mean i i like curious why i black
suits come in parentheses nod your head is the full way, Nod Your Head is the full title. Oh, excuse me.
It's the other way.
It's the full title featuring Trey Knox.
Oh, of course.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that song as well.
But Men in Black is a better song.
Men in Black is fun, but Nod Your Head is really fun.
The music video involves him zooming around on a crazy flying platform,
and I'm assuming that CGI is not held up.
Nor none of Men in Black 2's CGI is held up.
Yeah.
Although neither has the, to be fair and equal,
neither has the alien who ends up vamping with Will
in the original Men in Black.
This is...
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Because he does like a dance with...
Let me see you just slide with me.
I think men in black
was like that's a you know that's that was at many a middle school dance yeah that's one what
i think is weird i i like that you like it though because like i just don't i felt like
when it came out it was like this one's not gonna take nobody is gonna men in black oddly didn't
with the little dance it didn't feel as much just like a blatant ad for the movie. It felt like a spiritual heir to Ghostbusters, the song.
But Nod Your Head, Black Suit's Coming was just...
And in the wake of Wild Wild West, now the pattern has been established of these blatant ad songs.
And Wild Wild West, I think, is better than Nod Your Head, Black Suit's Coming.
I would agree.
Or Black Suit's Coming, parentheses, Nod Your Head. I might agree with that. So you like Wild Wild West? nod your head black suits coming i would agree or black suits coming parentheses not your head
uh that what you i might agree with that i think i agree so you like while i like all of them i
like all of these you're on board all the best do you like well then what of his singles then
what do you think is the best miami or uh jiggy jiggy with it or uh what was the other oh i you
know in middle school i liked will sm Smith so much that my AOL screen name
was G Jiggy One.
Oh, wow, really?
G apparently standing for getting.
It was short for getting.
Getting Jiggy and I was number one at it.
Man.
I recall what I was like in middle school
and I can tell you I was not to the least bit Jiggy,
if you can believe it
i think that's interesting because you always seem like you were a much like hipper kid in regards
to music you liked and some other stuff like i may have like turned your nose up at me in my like
my matchbox 20 or my oh maybe i well i felt snobby but i had this weird in middle school
only i felt a lot of pressure to like contemporary music and
the contemporary music I chose was the the hip-hop at the time some of which I would stand by I'm
still very fond of Busta Rhymes sure uh but the Will Smith music is largely not so good and I was
also really down with the the bad boy camp with the Puff Daddy and and actually thinking about
the song Men in black again
uh and maybe this is points against it and for uh black suits come and nod your head uh it is just
such a lazy yeah nod your head my opinion's been backed up um the uh real lazy with those samples
he really did just put on i made a video a long time ago
about how he just like,
like it's your favorite disco songs,
almost unaffected with him
rapping about a movie over it.
And now I since have gotten pretty into
Patrice Russian,
the maker of the original song,
Forget Me Nots.
And it's pretty bullshit.
It's the same melody.
It's the same groove.
He did almost nothing to it
except rap about a movie he was in over it i remember my parents being like like this is the
song this is another song and i remember that i'm like they don't get it yeah me too and then i was
like i'm older i'm like yeah it is it's like the same song really i mean it's more like a
like he's covering it but he changed the lyrics I'm all for the idea that the old man sampling view, obviously, is insanity.
Because something like Paul's Boutique is this rich tapestry of samples.
But I am absolutely in my dad's camp now.
If I'll be missing you, it's just every breath you take.
Yeah.
Well, I ultimately don't care because all those people made a lot of money on these songs
if it put money in patrice russian's pocket yeah and like i like it so like i'm not like
i'm not upset by it but as i as i'm older and i've heard now the original songs i'm like this
is just this is a song this is what happened to me in middle school was i ended i liked all this
rap that i since have realized oh my god every single one of them i just liked the sample what
i really was liking was 70s 80s funk and r&b oh that's interesting yeah yeah i gave all the credit something i don't
even remember what crappy rap song sampled never too much by luther van dross but i was like this
is a dope song and then like no they didn't do anything they just laid that what's uh i think
mo money mo problems is a kind of builds on the original.
I forget what the original song is. They do some.
I'm Coming Out by Peter West.
But again, a lot of the hookiness of it.
Yes, a lot of it's taken from that.
Yeah, but the Wild Wild West is real bullshit.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But again, Stevie got paid.
Sure.
Oh, and he performed at the mtv awards
but he changed the words he sang we go yeah the one that made my dad the most mad of all of these
was uh come with me yeah from the godzilla. I did at the time. I loved it. And I actually toured studio,
I toured NBC and toured Studio 8H
where SNL is done right after that happened.
I was there literally the summer after the episode
where he performed that.
And in my head,
even though I was an SNL nerd and a comedy nerd,
I was partially like,
wow, that's where Chevy Chase performed or whatever.
And even more so,
wow, that's where Puff Daddy performed or whatever and even more so wow that's where puff daddy and jimmy page come with me uh no song is held up worse than yeah my dad was so
mad about that i remember he was just like this is bullshit because like there's nothing and then
he's like and then he was mad because jimmy page was doing it with him yeah on snl but money paycheck
but it's gross as well they don't just lend themselves out to any
fly-by-night product.
Only superior products like the Godzilla song
and Led Zeppelin the ride at Hard Rock Park.
Of course.
Look, I got a
summer, I just realized
where all the timing of this worked out.
So Men in Black 2 came out summer
2002.
Songs of the Summer for me that summer gotta go nod your
heads black suits coming uh white blood cells uh or uh found love with a girl by the white stripes
and uh hard to explain by the strokes all of these also together this all three of these songs
they also had really fun music videos which uh that was the summer that i was like this
summer i'm going to lose a bunch of weight so i wake up every day and do this elliptical and i
realized uh vh1 for the first few hours of the morning just showed music videos without interruption
and i it was very exciting when one of those came on because the White Stripes one was the Lego music video.
And then the Strokes one was just a cool montage
of different found footage and a jet plane and stuff.
And most innovative, Will Smith rode around a big flying platform.
I'm just picturing young Jason on an elliptical
it's the greatest
I gave up soda too
and lost a bunch of weight
thank god there's not footage of this
because if there was footage of you
you'd be a Star Wars kid today
like if there was a video
of you on an elliptical
no no I had to then get off
that elliptical and go, no. I had to then get off that elliptical
and go be a counselor at a theater camp.
Like this is...
2002 was the year?
Yeah, this is 2002.
2002 was White Stripes?
Yeah, that's correct.
Really? Wow.
Yeah, we're old as shit.
Yeah, I think so.
That may have come out right at the end of 2001,
but that may have been like the sync the like second or third single
this is what i was talking about earlier the passage of time is so much so that i get freaked
out when i hear something like that because that feels like it's only like 10 years old but that's
like 15 how many times have will smith and the white stripes been to orlando since 2002 here's
why here's why i reacted with nod your head i think Men in Black is the best of all of his Will Smith songs.
I think it's by far the best one.
I think it's the coolest one.
I like the different parts in it.
And it's being tied.
Well, I only have that opinion because I don't really care for the other ones.
Well, fair enough.
So that's fine.
You're sitting here listening to The Greatest Hits.
I'm just saying Men in Black was always
I think the best
Remember Willennium
Which was another
Willennium
What was the
I like that one too
I get that confused with
Robbie Williams' Millennium
Oh yeah
Because he had a song
Called Millennium
Around that same time
That's a good song
Which is a good song yeah
I had a feeling
This was gonna be
Like this ride is
We just got derailed
But we just kinda like the ride
And there's not a ton To say about it I had a feeling we were going to mostly talk about not
yet black jacob suits coming not yet um 2002 also like i love you justin timberlake wow which is
these are all happening at the same that still feels like a new song to me that's what i'm all
by nelly great another great song this is the rise of pharrell around this time yes my mom's
favorite rap song hot in here uh that's that's a good choice at first she was like what is this
song and then it was a year we went to florida and it was on the radio along with whatever like
by the way by the red hot chili peppers and oh yeah just everywhere she was like this hot in
here is good and she was like this is funny my parents have never done about any rap song
i remember when uh the summer that live in la vida loca came out and i was like at
and jason would never be the same to city walk or downtown disney anywhere where they're playing
current music just just non-stop live in la vida loca loca and smooth i don't think that was the same summer but no that
was just non-stop around that era i'm sure well smooth the the smooth left a crater for a decade
or so uh um i've never quite recovered uh can i say something else uh uh in the periphery of men
and black culture something i discovered last night that's really something
that will only hurt the mortality issue
you're having, Mike.
In the men in black cartoon show,
it was an animated series
that followed the film between one and two.
There is a very strange clip that you can find
where the animated equivalent of Will
is fighting
an alien for control of a blimp he gains control and has the wheel but then looks ahead of him and
the blimp is heading straight for the twin towers and will smith and and or agent uh jay
i think says those towers oh those towers aren't going to be too tall anymore.
And then he narrowly,
he like barely pulls the wheel up and the blimp barely goes vertical
and right alongside the Twin Towers
and the 9-11 curse would affect Men in Black 2 as well
because the finale was set originally at the Twin Towers
and they had to change it to the Statue of Liberty.
So now I've brought up 9-11.
Wow.
And after talking about the 9-11 songs,
Nadia had Black Sins coming.
That's horrible.
Well, there's the, I mean, the most famous one of that
is the very first Spider-Man movie teaser
involves him stopping a helicopter
full of criminals in a giant web between the two towers right yeah oh how unfortunate like and
right was that like did it even get to be released or was it so i saw the timing it was released i
saw it i remember downloading it on my computer my my gateway computer and it took forever and
i was so goddamn excited about
spider-man coming finally okay so you did get to see without i did get to see it i'm sure it's
available somewhere right right um all right well i guess well now we gotta do we gotta turn this
thing like a blimp uh and go in a different direction hey at least okay so i have okay
uh i have some uh a couple of hot i have a couple of dark things i
realized about this well no one i think is more novel uh i realize if you follow the story of
this ride to its conclusion uh because you go in the universe fake universe and you then you're
recruited in man and black you do the whole thing you blow up the giant alien bug and either you are either way
you're uh neuralized um but at the end and and it's i really like the i like going through the
full queue so you can see the pre-show and then because at the very end of the ride you pull up
at another world's fair looking room and they're like are we alone in the universe of course we are
i think that's a nice tie around and then you walk by a door with the silhouettes of the worms but i realized another
thing about this ride a bunch of this ride follows the story beats of the first matrix
uh you are essentially a red pill you take the red pill and that's when you join men in black right uh
just as morpheus recruits neo uh then you are in like pulled into his fight you're pulled into his
crew just like you are put in a car and handed a gun just like neo uh then you have a very minimal amount of training before you are immediately
forced into a live fire exercise and then you you you destroy a big bad guy but then the twist
the turn is that like at the end of this ride you are essentially back uh uh above the rabbit hole
you essentially take the blue pill and you go back to your normal life
so uh this is a great this would have made a great grad school yeah right yeah there's also
a darker version uh if you use the definition of red pilling about like you find out what society's
really about like the maniacs on the internet like 25 minute youtube video where you're like
you break it down, your personal.
Yeah.
Here's what I've realized.
She's a full Jordan.
And it's all in the background.
You're like, nod your head.
It's playing.
And final realization, the greatest song of all time.
What you don't realize is that once you are in the men in black, you can't unsee it.
This is the Jordan Peterson Kermit voice.
Oh, God.
I feel lucky I don't know what
jordan yeah i was gonna say i don't know what the hell that is better you don't thank god you know
too much about that stuff i think that's that's a great theory can i can i say do you guys know
about other alternate pitches for uh what these like wraparounds were because the idea was always
it's the the build the building is a front you don't know
they're hiding that it's the men in black facility and at the end you come out and you're
somewhere else and there was another it was originally going to be the the brooklyn battery
building which is this big gray nondescript building where their headquarters are in the movie
but it's a theme park and that's not very lively to look at it's a big concrete wall
so then they still got to do all the placemaking and uh cool architecture so there were weird other other things pitched were that
you were at an orange uh you were at a fat uh an orange factory tour uh and then at the end
they denormalize you and you're just you're surrounded by you know crates of oranges and
then another one was that you you end up back at the orlando airport this thing was
almost the orlando airport that's very fun yeah you were gonna get on a people mover essentially
oh really i think oh interesting that's what i which could have been a separate ride which is
kind of the fun idea but i think then the thinking was is that confusing and do you not understand
this premise if you don't deeply know the movie right and also who
knows what the orlando airport looks like it's still gotta be this has to be like a striking
building that gets you down to the other end of the park right so they ended up at this this
world's fair thing but i like all those that that line of thinking is pretty fun yeah i mean i like
the the the look of this across the water like i I remember when this first opened, I was like, wow, that looks really cool.
Like that looks great
because there wasn't like a big,
now I feel like there's more.
I mean, there was a lot of fake city facades.
That's what a lot of Universal Studios was.
So this like definitely added some character
to that part.
They have the big men in black sign,
but if you just look at the building,
it doesn't say men in black on the building yeah that's a pretty big circular sign
out front but if you were to see it from the water i like the idea of like oh what is that
as opposed to like oh it just says men in black on a billboard like it's kind of true and it's
not like uh you know what i think is a terrible facade is the is the transformers ride in in
hollywood because it just is a big Transformers.
Yes, it just says Transformers.
Yeah, there's no amount of intrigue to it.
Because the Indiana Jones ride has nothing.
It doesn't say Indiana Jones on the front of the temple.
We don't want that.
We want to maintain the realism of this.
You know what's funny, though?
When I went to Harry Potter in Hollywood for the first time, we literally got in the wrong line.
We got confused
that is confusing yes yeah have you experienced that too we ended up we were in the line for the
wand shop we realized yes so that's so it's weird you have to be i love the idea of like you're
around a corner and you don't know where you are but there is like a level of functionality you
gotta have it is a weird balance between like truly immersing the guest and like thinking like
oh you're actually in the weird temple but also like oh we can't they can't just wander we can't just have people wandering they have to actually there
have to be markers and people and like it is a weird balance i'm sure like that's a nightmare
of star wars land right now when they're trying to figure all that logistics stuff out yeah of
like well it's a fully working city but also like we got to get people in and out they have to be
able to know where exits are or where the actual ride is yeah and we the our level of fan i think would love the more immersive
it is and i bet the imagineers would too but at the end of the day there's not only you know just
like regular foot but there's people who don't speak english and you like you do have to make
these things very explicitly clear yeah mom and dad don't have like a feeling they just want to
be like where do i go okay they don't want to like find it they don't want to be like i'm right explore and find yeah
didn't you you propose when we were ahead when we had weiger here talking about the mickey and
friends parking garage you proposed that it's fun that the parking lots are confusing at city walk
well it's a fun little journey i said what i thought was fun about city walk is because i
agreed with weiger that it's confusing because there are multiple parking garages there um but
i always am surprised where i come out i never know i never know i never know what's
i know we'll talk about this at a later time so i was saying it was a fun confusion
at disney i was uh at disney i was saying that they should just have, like, Mater parked in a parking spot in the parking garage.
And that you would want randomly, like, find Mater.
If you didn't know where it was going to be, if it was a different spot every time.
You would just be like, oh, hey, it's Mater.
That's pretty fun.
Okay, well, other stuff about this ride.
Did you guys figure out that it is the same ride vehicle as the Cat in the Hat ride?
I read that.
I thought that was interesting because they were trying to decide between the ride system of cat in the hat ride i read that i thought that was interesting because they were
trying to decide between the ride system of cat in the hat and uh spider-man uh both which had
opened the previous year and they said it was too impossible to like shoot straight with like the
range of movement you would get with the spider-man kind of vehicle oh interesting but the cat in the
hat like that then they even i think we
said they toned down um the movement at that ride so but it was i think it was performing very well
over at islands of adventure and they carted it over but they also added an element that is uh
you know in a bunch of nonsense called the fusion exhaust port which is a fancy term for the big red point that you shoot at in during the
one very cool part where you were shooting directly at another car because that's a unique feature of
this ride that you are side by side a very rare thing in a dark ride and you're competing against
another vehicle and there's this very fun sequence where you're you go side by side and there's a
scanner and it reveals that the other car are all aliens.
And then you shoot at the fusion exhaust port
and make it spin out.
Yeah.
Might be my favorite part of the ride.
That's a fun little zone.
I like that.
I'm very fond.
Like I said, my brother and I get very competitive
with this ride.
I love and I'm very good at being the one
who hits the red button at the end.
Because you got to do it fast.
You have to be the first in the car to get the points.
Yeah, you have to do it.
And I am waiting for it.
I'm not hammering on it.
I wait for Tier Rip Torn to say, push the red button.
Push the red button.
So right before that wouldn't do you anything,
but you've got to be pretty on the...
You've got to be right when he says it and first in the car.
It's like 100,000 points or something?
It's 100,000 points and it activates whatever nonsense what nonsense term i remember typing this
out because it's so long it activates uh the essentially just a big explosion like you go
inside the final big alien uh i like there's a very fun little it's just a little detail but
it's like you go into central park and there's a bunch of glowing eyes like in some bushes and then you come around the
corner and in the park, it's this giant, like it is a huge animatronic.
Like it doesn't have a ton of range of movement, but it's like very large.
It's very large.
I'll say this.
On a previous podcast, Scott was talking about how he was very scared of large things.
Oh yeah.
And I believe the first time I saw this,
I did have like the animal part of my brain went,
ugh, like too big.
Like that's too big and scary.
That thing didn't bother me.
It's like enough of a...
Oh, now look who's cool.
Yeah, no, that didn't scare me.
I wasn't like scared.
I was an old person too.
But I mean, I'm just saying my initial feeling,
ugh, like ugh.
Is it kind of
like smoky and does it like smell a little bit it's something like sort of a icky thing to go
into and i was like it looks like a big spider the subatomic thermal disruptor is what blows that
oh of course and then that makes your car spin a bunch yeah um this is not a negative. Well, I guess it's a negative.
I think that the queue and everything and all the aliens are so cool. I feel like this being a shooting ride detracts from the ride.
I think that for the length they went to theme the whole thing and make it a fake out and make the cool intro to it a fake out and make it the cool intro to it a fake out. You get too worried about shooting and points
that it's a level of detail and immersion
that you would probably appreciate more
if you could let that part of your brain go
where you're so focused on shooting things.
I feel like there's probably...
If Indiana Jones was a shooting ride,
I think it would make the ride worse.
That's interesting.
It's not it's bad.
I'm not saying it's bad because it's very cool and it's good.
But I think the shooting element, as cool as it seems,
it's actually kind of better on Buzz Lightyear
because Buzz Lightyear is like a smaller ride.
It's a kiddie ride.
And even on Toy Story, Midway Mania, it's like a game.
And it's much more tailored for that.
But this way, you're kind of going very slow
because you have to go pretty slow to be able to shoot at stuff.
So you don't have the room for the truly cool thrills.
Indie can switch up speeds.
You can go in and out.
And I'm saying I think maybe even with a lot of the stuff
that's already in this ride,
you could have more of an indie-level ride
with all of the detail they put into this thing.
And they drove those cars.
Are they like town cars in the movie?
Or are they Cadillacs?
Those black cars that they have like a...
Turns into a crazy ship.
The new hotness, he says in the sequel.
Yeah, the new hotness.
That's right.
Yeah, so that's a tailor
made for a ride vehicle right it's almost like i just think like we're never unless there's a new
resurgence of men in black i'm like there's even like a better men in black ride somewhere in this
and i feel like the shooting takes a little away from it again i like it it's very good and the
detail is very cool but it doesn't think it holds you back a little bit.
You maybe ignore how well done some of those creatures are.
Yes, that's kind of what I'm saying.
And you're not appreciating that it's this tentacle monster
bursting out of a second story window.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't know.
I think it's just different.
It's different.
It's different.
I have to give it credit.
Mostly practical stuff.
Mostly animatronics and statues.
Well, that's why I'm saying that.
That's what I'm saying.
Minimal screens.
Come on, Universal.
Learn from this.
I know.
Minimal screens.
I think they know.
I think they're getting it.
They know.
I hope so.
Look, the people that are working
in whatever they're imagineering
is called no.
And a lot of the problem is
that it's just budget stuff.
The screens in this are fun like
the alien scanning that makes sense and even that's just a partial like screen because you
can still kind of see the other car i can't remember what it is this is an unsourced thing
but there was a message board and we we haven't done kong yet in orlando but kong in orlando is
very similar to just the the tram tour version of k. It's just a lot of screens and then a practical Kong head at the end,
which is cool.
It's a big giant head, but it's just like his head.
And it's like, well, okay, and now the ride's over.
But there was a message board post of somebody who worked in creative
at Universal who was just so upset because they had a version of Kong
where it was a robot chasing you.
I don't know how they did it, but they had this crazy elaborate way
that it was not going to just be screens
for this Kong ride.
Oh, man.
And they're probably just as frustrated
as we are about having to put so many screen rides.
Yeah, those giant rides.
And it seems like the same thing happened
with the Fast and the Furious Supercharge
where it's like they built these giant ride vehicles and yes it does
get a lot of people through in an hour um uh you know per person capacity but it's like oh those
don't they can't they don't really have a range of movement you know yeah and of course and it's
just and it's with the kong ride too it feels short. I mean, that's a different problem. But like, yeah, it's like using screen,
using screens if it's a very specific reason
like Toy Story Midway Mania, which uses screen,
or if it's used to augment.
Well, Spider-Man, I mean, Spider-Man is mostly screens,
but the practical effects and the range of movement
in the car, really, it all works together.
But you need one screen ride in the park or two,
and then screens
to augment other experiences like on the the navi river journey at avatar you use a screen in the
background to make it look like there's a navi running and but there's practical you know plant
life and stuff like that i think more than ever uh tactile practical robots animatronics yeah
because these are you know so many uh you
can watch movies just in your house and you can in video games are in your house these places the
only places with the big crazy robots yeah and i want i guess that's where my point is coming from
is like if this was like a more dynamic ride vehicle or right experience you would really
like whoa this ride is on the level of indiana jones whereas
i think you get it it just takes a little while i'm so sorry you guys who made it uh it's great
i just that's my feeling if you had any yeah yeah well well next time just don't uh don't shoot
just don't shoot just keep uh just look at stuff hey you know there are screens uh in this ride
but these screens have will smith himself on them yes and glorious
standard definition i mean that's what i i uh two well one's not really a complaint one complaint
one observation the complaint is that this is one of the big offenders of like some florida cues
like they have not upgraded footage like because they've got this giant cool oval uh screen in what is my second
point the immigration and control room which is the giant room with the two alien twins that you
can see all the mib desks uh immigration control i'm sure it was very funny at the time uh to call
like but now now that kind of
has it
aged well
it's like oh no
are the men in black
ice for aliens
like oh let's not
think about that
I mean the answer
is yes
that is what
they're coming here
illegally and men
in black are designed
to well they register
them too supposedly
I guess that's true
they seem benevolent
they seem like a
benevolent government
organization but i mean
there's been some funny business in those movies there's room for uh bureaucratic abuse and
depending on who's running the men in black i mean maybe they're very hostile toward uh our alien
friends who come to this so it depends who's in charge oh that's a good point is that happening
the third i've never seen the third one i also have not seen the third one. I also have not seen the third one. Me neither. I almost watched it as... Ooh, movie night, boys.
Oh, boy.
Josh Brolin, right?
He's young Tommy Lee Jones. Brolin is young Tommy Lee.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, there was some click-baity headline that was like, the actor who plays Thanos
is actually very handsome in real life.
And I think Jenny Nicholson maybe posted that.
And it's like, the actor, yeah, he's very famous. it's like the actor yeah he's very famous he's
like a storied career very good career he's a very famous enough to be on movie posters with
his name all the time yeah fun fact his name is he has a name it's josh brolin he's the son of another famous actor. They're a family of actors.
What a crabby headline. But the, what did we say?
Yeah, well, that'd be the way to do,
if they did a real,
if they wanted to make a real relevant current,
you know, a new Men in Black,
but with the tone and shooting style of Homeland,
that would be a thing I would avoid at all
costs.
It seems like you'd see articles about how it was very thoughtful and cool
of them to comment on the Trump era.
That's like that Netflix,
like Ghost Troopers or whatever,
right?
Like the good,
that was one of those movies.
It was,
it seemed like,
it's like Ghostbusters,
but deadly serious.
Oh,
and it was like special ops guys with ghost guns.
You aren't talking about R.I.P.D.
No, no. No.
And you're also not talking about
what was the, oh, that ghost show
on Hulu that I made fun of all the time.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're talking about.
Hope's Ghost. Can't help himself.
What was it called?
Another show. You'd think it'd be
called Ghosted, but then there is a different
ghosted as well there's a lot
of these do you guys like the men in black
films or the first film
the first one I loved I thought that
was so much fun and then I
also like back when you
were like you could be really like moved by
a quote like I remember like Tommy
Lee Jones was like you know
yesterday you didn't know. I should really
look this up. Yesterday you did blah, blah, blah.
And now you know that there's
alien blah, blah, blah. Imagine what you'll know
tomorrow. And I was like, wow, he's right.
5,000 years ago people thought the Earth was flat.
Thank you. You actually know the full quote.
I just saw it this morning.
And I still can't actually produce it.
It's true.
It's about... That'll be the sign-off message It's true. I should look up the quote. It's about, just read it.
That'll be the sign-off message for the episode.
I did like the, I really liked the world building around it.
I think, like, and there's some decent jokes.
I feel like the plots are kind of all over the place.
I think the first one's a lot,
but the second one with the galaxy on the cat's collar is a little confusing.
Although Rosario Dawson,
always like her.
Oh, she's good.
Oh, that's the second one.
And I mean,
oh God,
the one thing I love from this movie that is not present in this ride,
maybe some footage,
but Vincent D'Onofrio.
Oh, he's great.
The bug is so fun just
sugar uh sugar and water like it's he's so great in that that seems to have some reality like new
there's like a wave of people who are like like we're people are keeping that alive i feel like
how crazy and funny that performance is yeah uh yeah i mean i didn't even it was like years later until i put
it together that that was him yeah me too another storied career like there's a thing i like about
the men in black franchise in general is that for this big movie with these like these very
commercial rap songs and whatever that there's odd idiosyncratic performances from weirdo character actors yes like vincent d'afria
and riptorn and uh uh johnny knoxville's fun and that wasn't the one david cross is a david
cross is really fun the first one and the second one um jermaine clements josh braun was always
good and stuff i the uh i i didn't see it but they like this franchise is a i don't think it
has to be uh well barry
sonnenfeld who also did the adams family which contains some of the most strange performances
in mainstream blockbusters from raul julia uh to the kids are so good christina ricci and um
what's his name the uh the bugsley no the other the boyfriend oh oh oh yeah yeah yeah that kid
krumholz thank you uh is really good uh so yeah sonnenfeld
uh uh pretty excellent run like i feel like he made a lot of blockbusters
better than they kind of had a right to be the dog was that him maybe
sure don't hold this against us we're not a film podcast uh yeah i'm sorry some more like awards
kind of fair there yeah it was also just it was in the right time when i was of what was like 12 or 13 yeah and it was like independence day had come
out the year prior i loved independence day so it was very much a will smith was the coolest guy and
it was like every movie he makes is gonna be awesome the marketing for these were fun the
trailers were fun uh yeah i i do i do like these the vibe of them kind of reminds me like oh this is kind
of like what i liked as a kid with ghostbusters very levin sin is wag the dog jason oh very
levin and this is very son of okay um but sort of that like there's a there's a world here there's
rules to this world but there's like it's funny too like this and ghostbusters kind of have that
in common these like systems very similar ghostbusters kind of have that in combat and
these like systems very similar ghostbusters in that way that that you have the proton packs
and you gotta like learn how these things work the guns are so cool oh yeah the noisy cricket
yeah right deneuralizer deneuralizer amazing uh invention what a cool design the idea you can set
those dials and who wouldn't love to be deneuralized right about now
if we could get well i think we have to get through some bullshit in the because if you
came out if you were deneuralized and then entered this world right now that would be where but when
when the administration is done if we could just kind of go back to beginning of 2016 and
deneuralize all of it yeah that's gonna be you're just like all right so here's the world now and here's the marvel movies you missed and that's it that's all that happened an agent just
shoves us like wow 70 movies i'll be busy lots to catch up on um i really liked uh men in black
when it came out and i have a little thing to share which is that i when i was walking out of
the theater to the strains of the men in black song and i i saw with my dad and i could tell that he did not
like the film and he looked back and asked me uh what'd you think kind of with some judgment
and i wanted to show that i really liked it and i said i shall pray for a sequel
whoa you were saying you had the premise that I was like
a hip kid or something.
That's how I talked
in 1997.
It is.
I was a little
lights camera Jackson.
That's wild.
Yeah.
I have such a strong
memory of saying it
and I remember
even more strongly
my dad like grimacing.
He didn't like that.
Yeah.
He was like
who's this wiener kid
I'm raising?
How did he end up talking like this?
I get down on my knees and humble myself before a vengeful God that he brings me another of these fine films.
I prostrate myself before whatever higher power there is.
Whatever Hollywood lords and ladies make the decisions.
And then I got my wish and I didn't see it.
I think I only saw the michael jackson part
on youtube and then my prayers came true and i didn't uh what an awful kid wow uh if you think
i'm annoying now then uh if you met me when i was 12 yeah horrible man once again these are the now
i've that one is really damning and that forbidden Broadway stuff that came up in the American Adventure episode.
Oh, boy.
I skated away.
I slid away from an awful way of being.
And I say prayers to say thank you.
Hey, why couldn't you just be a normal kid like me?
Using nod your heads to motivate you on the elliptical.
Nod your head.
Man, me knowing all the words to
push and 3am by Matchbox
20, I look like the coolest guy out of
all three of us now in regards to
when we were 14 years
old. You were ahead
of it. I was a snob and I didn't like
Matchbox 20. Then I made a video with
Rob Thomas, the singer.
I made a video with him at
funny or die he was great he was a cool dude let me get the word out here that rob thomas is was
awesome so much fun uh so i got no beef with matchbox 20 today you i think maybe you were
the coolest you were ahead of the game i was wow i didn't think that was the case thumbs up rob
cool dude hey we're all cool hey you know we're all now we
have a podcast where i complain that's they got to get rid of that standard def come on guys put
in a high def screen on that cool oval that's a baloney related ideas things really worked out
for the three of us baloney the intricacies of a fast pass at universal there's a lot of exciting stuff going on yes we are cool highly
recommend i also uh recommend this ride what do we think uh any final thoughts well if you had to
what if we ranked the ride as do we call it is it we rank it as a galaxy defender as cosmically average or as bug bait
oh i i mean if that's this is the ranking system at the end of the ride it's gotta be uh galaxy
defender yeah that's an unfriend we know the answer to this even if you have some improvements
it's a it's galaxy defender i mean my big improvement, I think I talked about liking little plus-ups in rides
when they bring a ride back from refurbishment, and you're like,
oh, look, there's a couple extra things in here.
I would just love a little bit of a very cranky Tommy Lee Jones begrudgingly,
just a little bit of footage of him like,
all right, when you get in your ride vehicle, Jonah.
I would also love a Vince D'Onofrio bug animatronic.
I would love a sugar animatronic.
I agree, more bug.
Yeah, I think you do.
Yeah, yeah.
Bug is good.
That would, if they like the hat box ghost. Well, that's sort do. Yeah, yeah. Buzz Bugs is good. Buzz Bugs is good, yeah. That would, if they, like the Hatbox Ghost.
Well, that's sort of what I'm saying.
A little bit more from the movie, a little bit more of that character you remember because you can focus on it because you're not shooting at it.
How about a Bugman Vincent D'Onofrio walk around?
How about like a Beetlejuice or a Jim Carrey Grinch?
Characters they have used
i think the i think we found that the bug needs to be more a part of pop culture at large how fun
if a bug was walking around and bothering you and like slobbering and he held out his hand and his
hand was gross and uh i wouldn't care for that nothing to make you actually sick he's just got
like nickelodeon gak on his palms.
That's funny you mention that because like I found footage
and I sent it to you guys of like the opening day of this attraction
and they had like men in black scaling down from the towers
and there was a Lincoln Town car and they had plasters
and a big explosion in the front.
I'm realizing I don't remember any aliens in that footage.
But like, yeah, that would have been like
the first year.
You have some aliens wandering around.
You have Men in Black and the suits wandering around.
If you kind of get the word out about the park, what if they did like typical universal
characters like Marilyn Monroe or Groucho Marx, and then they de-masked themselves and
revealed themselves or like opened a little pod in their chest and there's
a little alien controlling them stuff like that so the men in black equivalent of like the hard
rock park commercials when it's a regular person and then they get rock and roll and they're going
to the hard rock sounds like they went to hard rock park must have been through the immigration
facilities at mib headquarters there might there i would, though, that if I'm talking to Lucille Ball
outside of the I Love Lucy experience
and she turns out to be a bug person,
I'm going to be very upset.
That's cool as hell.
I love that.
I'll veto that idea, I think,
because I want to talk to Lucy.
I want to have a conversation with her,
and that's all.
We'll keep Lucy safe.
But if Hello Kitty took over it.
Okay, that's fine. Oh, man Lucy safe. But if Hello Kitty took over. Okay, that's fine.
Oh, man.
And if they hired a really short actor so that the entire head area could be filled with some like full alien like doing a little like a little elliptical machine.
Oh, yeah.
To operate the Hello Kitty body.
Oh, yeah.
I always liked the tiny aliens in the human suits.
Yes, that's fun. In these movies. That was very body. Oh, yeah. I always liked the tiny aliens and the human suits
in these movies.
That was very fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It does feel like
they should...
I haven't seen the third one.
They should have been...
Like, the universe is so cool
and then they're like,
one is the only one
that anyone has any affection for
or movie was.
Yeah.
The shootouts,
there should have been better.
There should have...
I mean, there were some funny
action scenes.
There should have been
some like cool
John Woo kind of like
shootout scenes.
But yeah,
like the ride is,
yeah,
adding the character.
I also,
we could add the bug man
to Beetlejuice's
graveyard review.
Is that still going?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Bring it back.
I wanted it to be
the bug man graveyard review. I want the bug man and Bring it back. I want it to be the Bugman Graveyard Review.
I want the Bugman and Beetlejuice and Frankenstein to do Gangnam Style.
And that's all I want.
Literally, your favorite song for a decade was Nod Your Head, and now it's Gangnam Style.
Now it's Gangnam Style.
It's been good for another decade.
It'll be Gangnam Style.
Hey, just some real quick tips if you are going on this ride anytime soon.
Try to sit on either outside.
Don't sit in the middle seat.
It's three across the middle seat.
It's always harder to score points.
At the end, listen for Rip Torn to tell you to hit the red button.
Oh, yes, aim for farther away targets.
That's the same on Buzz Lightyear.
You want to aim for farther away targets because it's like a cone.
Infrared, it's like a cone, so it's wider when it comes out. That's true on Buzz Lightyear, you want to aim for farther away targets because it's like a cone. Infrared, it's like a cone, so it's wider when it comes out.
That's true on Buzz Lightyear, really?
Yeah.
It's tougher to aim at something right in front of you?
Well, no, I bet it's tougher to get more points
is what you're saying, right?
No, I think it just gets more accurate the further it goes.
Oh, interesting.
Like a laser pointer?
I didn't know that.
But also often on Buzz Lightyear,
the farther away target is the blue target or the target cube.
Yeah, so it's more points.
Oh, I see.
Also, I will say, don't in real life, though, though if rip torn tells you to do something take a take a moment
yeah think about it and think about it what is he saying to you what is his state of mind if he
hands you a weapon and proudly calls it jumbo judy um you're larry sanders now kid take a breath and if he has you drink
something it just don't don't be
handed an object by rip torn
if he thinks a bank is his house
which is what happened
fine actor though amazing
one of the greats so glad
he's in the ride so glad Will's in the
ride Will's in the ride
yeah ups the level those ending videos when he gives in the ride so glad will's in the ride will's in the ride yeah ups the level those
ending videos when he gives you the neuralyzer come on let's make them high def guys yeah all
right update the definition yep add an expensive bug character and then and take out all the guns
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Yeah, please talk about us please only talk about us uh
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um and then and do you have any i have one more quote to read in closing if unless you guys are
more let's hear it uh 500 years ago everybody knew the earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone
on this planet. Imagine what
you'll know tomorrow.
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