Podcast: The Ride - Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway

Episode Date: February 10, 2023

Newly opened at Disneyland, we take a look at Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway. Featuring grass discussion, transforming rooms, and an emotional piece of furniture. Super Mario Ice Capades with Mr. Belvedere Episode up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus WATCH THIS EPISODE: https://youtu.be/3jpkQV5fevo FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! Runaway Railway. Nothing can stop us now. It's Podcast The Ride, a podcast about rides that has finally run out of ice shows and Bono alter egos and has no choice but to cover a ride. I'm Scott Gardner begrudgingly accepting the situation. Mike Carlson. Hi. Similar. Hey, I'm here. Yeah begrudgingly accepting the situation. Mike Carlson. Hi. Hey, I'm here. Yeah, we'll do it. We'll get through it.

You know, at this point, we just need Bono to think of a new character. And he's busy sitting at the State of the Union, and he's not in his writing lab coming up with new character names. Look, as soon as Samith did his little devil routine on the grammys the first thing i thought of was my man mr mcphisto so i thought maybe we should do an immediate new episode about him again that was the perfect in because everybody i mean i feel stupid talking about your ben shapiro's of the world because like it's very performative oh this is bad and yeah you give him oxygen by even elon musk tweets this feels like the end of days and you're like this is the corniest little devil routine i've ever seen this is hot stuff

the little devil i didn't watch it jason jason shared and our hot stuff the little devil thank you so much thank you show me the proper respect uh that uh yeah it was like a million pop star rock star performance they're just like a naughty wasn't there just a devil thing with little nas x we had this conversation yes exactly but replace that's why i feel silly for like playing into like making fun of the conservative media for being mad about it because i'm like i think they're pretending to I think it's all fake or it's all kayfabe plus you know our friend Denzel told us that the devil comes along when you

least what did he tell Will Smith that was the weird thing you really should have known proudest moment that's when the devil oh I remember now okay yes that's that applies to the Grammys I think the devil that's all of us when we all have had Okay. Yes, that applies to the Grammys, I think. That's all of us.

When we all have had proud moments, like putting out an episode about Bono's devil alter ego, that's when the devil comes for you. A different devil as played by Sam Smith. As played by Sam Smith. But Bonnie Raitt, watch out. The devil's lurking. She's not safe backstage. Watch out, Bonnie.

But, you know, that's really all i have to say i just thought of our guy mr mcphisto when all this controversy in quotes happened uh um but where was george bush about george bush wasn't sounding the alarms about mr mcphisto and right in zuropa era and mr mcphisto was at the State of the Union as well. I mean, as Alter Ego was. As I was saying. Yeah, yeah. No, Bono's there. Right, right.

So this is very topical. Very topical. Very relevant. But I guess we should talk about a theme park ride. A new big ride that's out that's very current. Guys, we don't do that. This almost never happens. Change is hard.

Change is hard. I kept finding myself in uncomfortable territory where I was writing down like, I like this. This is good. Yeah. Well, that's the devil that's coming for us maybe. Sure. Is that when we do the assignment of the show that we gave ourselves years ago and we just talk about rides sometimes when it's a ride that you like then you just say

i like the ride and then what and that's kind of how i feel about mickey minnie's runaway railway i mean i have stuff that i'd like to talk about yeah yeah but you know it's fun when you got a big big sack of snark to start whipping around to toss onto the table, but my sack is empty. Well, sure. Snark free. I'll have plenty to complain about, though, when we hit Super Nintendo World,

because it seems like there's very little Mr. Game & Watch representation. What's that? Mr. Game & Watch is a little stick figure man from very early, I handheld pre nintendo entertainment system he's cute he's cute mr gaming watch very cute uh eventually they would put them all together and release them on um i think it was for game boy pocket um i don't uh i don't want to start giving jordan assignments this is a video episode and and we're with Jordan Katz, our producer.

But if we could see Mr. Game and Watch. I have him on my laptop, but for the viewer. And you can watch this on the Forever Dog YouTube. Yeah. I'm looking at him right now. Maybe we'll throw him up on the big screen. But there's not enough of him to be cute. There's not, like, he is just a body.

You know what I mean? Oh, oh. Well, you know what? When I played, I've never actually played the game and watched, but I played it. I forget which Smash Brothers came out. I think there's enough of him there to be cute. Yeah. He's featureless.

It's hard to be cute. Well, he shows up in Super Smash Brothers, like Mike said. That's the first time i played i played with him or played as him he does have a move set you know he's got a full like yeah oh yeah mr game and watch is a killer yeah he'll kill you yeah you're gonna be cute and a killer absolutely oh my gosh you gotta be watching out for the kids who are like i want to play as mr game and watch it's like okay well i have him unlocked uh oh that's. It's like, okay, well, I have him unlocked. Oh, that's like the demented choice a little bit?

Maybe, I don't know. Well, my character's Captain Falcon, so I don't know if I'm much better. Oh, so you're not even a Game and Watch guy when you're playing Smash. No, I didn't say I was. Okay, but you're upset that you want to at least see him in the land.

I like seeing him, yeah. I mean, I know there's little Easter eggs, and I've tried to get the basics so I know what to do when I go, but I'm trying not to spoil too much for myself. Well, that's another topical theme park thing that perhaps we might talk about soon. What a time. There's things happening.

There's things opening, big relevant rides. So far, we've been pretty lucky making it to these now runaway railway has been open since march 4th 2020 at disney's hollywood studios yikes unfortunate yeah yeah i didn't realize it was that close um so a couple people got to do it and then much more a year later, but, um, but it is brand new here in Disneyland. It's only been open for a couple of weeks and Jason hasn't been down to see it there, but I have done it recently and Mike has done it just this week. A couple of days.

Right. Yeah. Two days ago I did it. Uh, daddy went back to Disneyland. Yeah. I'm talking about myself. I'm talking about myself. I'm talking about myself as Daddy, and it's purely from a parental place, not any sort of sex thing.

Daddy went back to Disneyland alone. Yes. Well, that's your way, as it should be. As is his way. Daddy went alone. Bring a laptop this time? Do any work? No, and thank God, because daddy was tired that day.

And he had a big meal by the pool at the Grand Californian and a cocktail. And his eyes started twitching. Oh. And he has yet to recover from the energy. He's so tired. It was a string of bad baby sleep nights. So this is what happened. They have the whole virtual queue.

You have to get up at 7am to get your spot in line This almost never happens to me I had the alarm set I hit snooze on the alarm Out of just sheer Like panic, what is that stupid noise Turned it off Missed the virtual queue at 7am

Wow I woke up at 7.15 and I was like Flabbergasted How could no i like you did this have happened you didn't check not only did you do a bad job checking there was no check yes i i could not believe what had happened because i i don't even really have a memory of turning the phone off that's how tired i was i just literally like reached over hit snooze on it and then it rang again eight or ten whatever minutes later and i completely missed the window ring rust on checking i you take that back first of all okay that is not true he's he's so high on the cvs thing that he's got two two

dollars more of a deal than you every week he's coming and he's swinging at you clock's ticking okay wednesday is soon going to become thursday so i know every week fairy the coupon fairy visits us all tonight and jason will get a four dollar coupon i will get a two dollar coupon i'm waiting for it to just drop out entirely with no warning i'm also considering checking out that mark cuban has like a very cheap mail order pharmacy company now what mark cuban has a pharmacy mail order pharmacy that's just generics and it's like pennies on the dollar for like the most common generic sounds good but that also seems like the kind of thing you would hate like a billionaire doing a new thing right i don't love that but i do love a deal i know this is where this is what billionaires often want to give you is a deal so you have this fighting in your head

you have these smash brothers smashing in your head all the time it's even cheaper that like walmart has a lot of like generics that are like really really cheap. And they, but then I have to drive over. This would just. What? Wait, sorry. That took a real left turn. I thought you were going, but then I have to support the Walton family

and their exploitation of the workers. And the mom and pops disappear. They're not great. I got to drive. That's what I have to do. I got to drive an extra three minutes. I got to drive to the like kind of inconvenient walmart versus it just shows up when the mailman no it's not but versus they just shows

up in the mail well sure that's more convenient but you love the empire center which is where the walmart oh i do love the empire center right which is where that walmart is yeah but i'm more of a target guy well but that's not what you said. And that's in the Empire Center. Yeah, much easier side of the parking lot to navigate. Well, I drive in the back of the Walmart. I do a little parking hack. I know about the back of the buildings, yeah. And if you're going to Staples for any reason,

then you can drive around the whole back of the shopping center and get around the Best Buy and then drive. So you know all this. Oh, I know, because I used to walk it. I worked at the office building. And so I would walk behind all the businesses and walk back. It was like a mile, mile and a quarter. This is when I visited you at work one day and I wanted to go to a hometown buffet.

And you said, I'm not spending $8 for lunch. Yeah. Yes. There's a Jason quote. I think I've told that story on the podcast, but maybe years ago. That five-timer is welcome anytime. I'm up for a seventh time. Sure.

There was no way, though, we were spending anything less than $6. It wasn't like we were going to go have dollar hot dogs somewhere. Well, also, I don't know the buffet. I don't know. Is the food that good at home? No, but it was funny if we did it. Oh okay.

It's a solid point. Yes I don't know that the food is No it's usually bad but there's an icy machine usually at those hometown buffets and you can get

unlimited icy. Now that's a deal. Jason you could have gotten like a big I don't know gallon jug of icy. I like like half a cup of icy.

Well yeah that's fair yeah but i'm saying you could have like taken it home and put in the freezer that's true they love giving to go options i know that jason likes to save desserts and have them after the fact but the saved icy is the grimmest thing i've ever heard it doesn't like like only Only the most... You need to be at death's door and all of your retirement has run out. Every cent counts.

Yeah, so where someone would say, oh, I get the very big Icy and I drink half and I save the rest for the next morning. You'd be like, I don't know if you... Look! It makes you happy, Grandma. Some days you gotta leave yourself a little treat to get out of bed next morning especially working one of those cubicle jobs you know

like you do an email job yeah i'm going my cubicle aka my research fort no no i love my research for it this is different this is different it was very gloomy there were a lot of layouts at the time. You were in the basement, right? No, no. That office building was brand new. Oh, I thought you worked in the basement for some reason. No, I did not work in the basement.

I worked in the vault for a few years. Maybe you said vault, and I imagine vault is in basement. No, just massive tape vaults. The various rooms were full of massive tape vaults. Listeners, when you hear vault do you think basement I guess not necessarily doesn't have to be it makes sense I can see why you pictured it but no I don't

think it's required to be oh yeah banks are mostly ground level right right vaults I would think well here we're still we're doing a great job of keeping this podcast about extraneous bullshit yeah yeah even in the face of the challenge of talking about a big ride that people are excited that's right um how mainly how was it to be back i know

you were tired did you still manage to have some fun yeah it's great i mean i i went on like a couple things i sat uh yeah you chill out you have some food um some food. It was good to be back. The crowds are just as bad as ever. It's not like there's no difference. But yeah, I did Guardians. Toontown, which is a place I don't even go very much. You don't usually go in Toontown. I mean, I would skip it entirely.

It's kind of an inconvenient corner of the park. It was good. There was some snarl. We'll talk about the grass maybe now or i don't do we hold that i've i've got the big bold word grass yeah because we have to talk about the grass yes you you bolded uh uh grass i bolded march 4th 2020 because this is such a it if it was a little if it had been a month or two earlier, that still would have not been great. But it was just so, so close. It's extremely close. That's the way.

I didn't realize. For a joyous ride, the most fun, silly celebration ride, and then sorry, pandemic, shut you down. The sun can't smile anymore. You were saying, though, going to T-Town. Yeah, the grass. I completely forgot they put the coat on Jessica Rabbit. I forgot about the coat. Did you forget about the coat?

I forgot about the coat, too. Yeah. The ride's not open. You can't see the coat right now, can you? I didn't go on the ride, but I was just going through stuff to prepare for today, and then there was some stuff about the Roger Rabbit. I forgot about the coat. Jessica Rabbit, no longer femme fatale,

now a disgusting peeper in the bushes with her trench coat and nothing else. A peeping Tom. So they put, if you don't know, maybe we've talked about this before, they put a trench coat on Jessica Rabbit to cover her up, which I don't know. They fixed sexism with that move.

Finally, we've all known that Jessica Rabbit was the source. Might have been well intentioned but I think it's a it's a weird puritanical move to and also very lady yes extremely and you're on board with that but well yeah the reason

they did it is because I went to City Hall every week and complained that this woman is her ample bosom is exposed but that doesn't mean you wanted a full you know head-to-toe trench coat you just wanted like a yeah like a turtleneck well a turtleneck or a nun's habit uh anything just to help help the problem along so french coat ridiculous no this character jessica rabbit is a character with no agency she needs to work for a detective agency. This has fixed the agency issue.

I don't know. What are they saying about if she's wearing a sparkly dress? I would have fixed the Native American representation on Peter Pan before I would have covered up Jessica Rabbit. Sure. That seems, I don't know.

By fixing, you mean just like taking a hammer to the entire sequence and throwing it in the garbage? Well, sure, yeah. Sure. It's an easy fix. or put them all in trench coats we've got it up on we've got it up on the screen and oh yeah the cartoon version of it yeah um why what's this what does this do i'm not sure again maybe well-intentioned but uh justic rabbit's like a fully fleshed out character who does stuff in the movie and has a fun personality and there there's no shirt collar so it does look like she's wearing a trench coat with nothing else so she's a flasher that is true yeah let's get that

evening gown out of there put her in just a trench coat and give her a hat so so anyway i don't know maybe the good again good intentions but it's a bit silly. When I was refreshing myself on Toontown in general is when I came upon this. Oh, my God. I haven't seen this picture. It's like she's in a yellow. Dick Tracy.

Well, she's in like, yeah, Dick Tracy or like, I guess French Stewart in the Inspector Gadget movie is not. In a yellow coat, he's in the traditional. I know what you mean, though. It feels more like French Stewart, Inspector Gadget movie is not. In a yellow coat, he's in the traditional. I know what you mean, though. It feels more like French Stewart Inspector Gadget than Matthew Broderick Inspector Gadget. Yeah, I don't know why that is. This is a straight-to-video trench coat.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those eyes. This is a weird-looking animatronic, too. Yeah. Don't know about this. So that's a recent change to Toontown. Yeah, so I was just refreshing myself on Toontown and like because a lot of it's still closed and they're like the the left side of Toontown is closed, basically. Yes. There is this greater revamp occurring.

And I remember thinking, wait, this ride opens in January, but Toontown doesn't open till March. That's strange. How's that going to work? This has happened before. This is what it was like in Tomorrowland while most of the land was down, but they just kept a long, weird walkway entirely boarded up all the way to Space Mountain. So you get real claustrophobic, and it's not like that.

It's pleasant over there. They've opened 30% of Toontown. The 30% that contains this new ride. Yeah, so it felt... I will say Toontown felt, even though it was mostly closed, it felt alive in a way. Yeah. I don't, because the music is very now similar to the ride.

So that's kind of piped in and that kind of gives it a different vibe. And the grass, I guess we could talk about the grass now. Let's talk about the grass. The grass is good. Yeah. Well, let me hear it. Let me explain the grass. But guess we could talk about the grass now. Let's talk about the grass. The grass is good. Yeah. Well, let me explain the grass. You go ahead. Let me weave the grass narrative.

So this broader renovation of Toontown that's happening, a lot of it is taking what was kind of concrete areas, and they had statues, and in this case it was a Roger Rabbit fountain in a concrete area and they're fixing that there was this trolley that hasn't run for a long time the jolly trolley we're gonna take those tracks out and put in more green spaces for families to run around and kids to run around that sounded nice to me that seemed fine yeah then we saw our we got our first look at the grass at any of

this grass and uh jordan if you have a photo just called the grass perfect thank you this is one of the views that that we saw before going there in person and let's be honest in in the concept art which i should have brought but in the concept art it looks like these rolling hills that are full of of magic that kids would tumble down and what opened is like we're looking at like two cartoon street lamps that don't match the the grass then a real tree not a cartoon tree and then what i mean a lot of people said it online and aaron said it when i showed this to her that it just it looks like at the airport where dogs go to the bathroom absolutely yeah a giant version of just the big fake grass it is very fakey grass

um and there was a very unflattering before and after where before was a whimsical Roger Rabbit fountain. And then what we get is this big, you know, or not even that big. It's like it seems like a modest, like, you know, a slightly bigger than average backyard's worth of fake grass. Yeah. Yeah. Can I ask a thing about the grass? Yeah. Is it it's for sure AstroTurf?

You were there. Now we've both been to the grass. Yeah. It is. It is the grass? Yeah. Is it, it's for sure AstroTurf? You were there. Now we've both been to the grass. Yeah, it is, it is thick grass. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So I heard one of the defenses of it, which not quite sure why anyone was bothering with that. But one of the defenses were like,

oh, parents, you know, kids, they're ready for them to run around and people to sit down. And it's just like the more i thought about that position um the more i was thinking well like ash yeah right yeah look at this like rolling meadows this looks like pure pure magic just like yeah childhood destination of your dreams and then look, look in the lower right corner. Like big, huge,

huge, huge trees providing so much shade. And it looks like there's some sort of like, what are those multicolored things? Jason might not have a clue. You see what, like are those little tents?

Something to play. Are they little like parts of mailboxes? Yeah. It looks like something to play with. There's a rolling hill. There's like a rolling kind of hill.

There's definitely elevation on the hill. Ele Yeah. It looks like something to play with. There's a rolling hill. There's like a rolling kind of hill. There's definitely elevation on the hill. Elevation. Elevation. Yes. And then you cut back to just the flattest. Yeah. Okay. So Jason, you were saying? Well, a couple of things sprung to mind the more I thought about it. One, AstroTurf occasionally

heats up in the sun. Gets a little hot and plasticky in the sun. Two, let's hot and plasticky in the sun. Two, let's say everyone's hanging out and popping a squat. Getting comfy. Just getting comfy on the ground.

A stitch came out of there. Just like at the end of the day, it's AstroTurf so they can take a bunch of garden hoses and hose it because it's going to get filled with weird little chunks of food and dirt. Oh. You're saying it's going to get dirtier than grass? It's going to get nasty.

Oh, it's going to get so nasty. I mean, grass people would have just been, like, just grabbing chunks of it, I feel like. I'm taking this home. I'm going to sell this on eBay. Real Disneyland grass. There's a reason there's a fence behind all this. What do you mean? What?

What is that reason? What is the reason? What's the reason? If that guardrail was not there, people would just climb over and just fuck around on the other side of that. Well, they can't. They can just come to the other side. There's not really much on the other.

Why does the rail help? So people aren't climbing over it. I'm talking liability. There needs to be rail. That's not new, though, is it? Yeah, that was talking liability. There needs to be a rail. That's not new, though, is it? Yeah, that was there before. No, and that's fine. But I'm saying actual plant life.

If people could just go and climb those hills by whatever's back there, people would. People would climb that. Children would climb that. But again, the rail is not new. The rail was always stopping people from going. You're hung up on the rail. But I'm curious. you brought up the rail. Why am I hung up on the rail?

I'm curious what your point is. I'm just saying, like, real plant life could get destroyed by people trampsing over it all day long. Sure. In the same way, like, okay, that railing is very clear. Like, do not go further than this. Do not go further than this. The railing that has been there for 30 years. Yes.

But even besides that the bigger thing there are two of the saddest benches i have ever seen i feel like don't match that don't match i i don't quite understand why that is not all bench yeah to go back real quick were you saying they're damned if they do damned if they don't in regards to it's going to be bad if it's astroturf it's going to be bad if it's astroturf, it's going to be bad if it's real plant life? Yeah, I mean, I think that, yeah, I think that's a consideration. I don't think, I don't know that it's, I'm saying it should have been grass.

I mean, and I probably wouldn't have thought about this at all if not for the previous concept art where they're showing like massive amounts of green space, you know? Well, let me get into why this is all come up. And if you follow us on twitter you may have seen this and uh that okay so you know we've recently been noting that some of universal's announcements and innovations have been more exciting yeah and more ambitious

than disney's uh recent news and announcements uh so i tweeted the joke, hey, let's look at Disney and Universal's new themed lands. And side by side, I put Super Nintendo World and the grass. And our audience, you listeners who we love, got the joke, liked the joke, most importantly, moved on from the joke. I imagine all of you going like kept going then i leave the computer for a while and i come back to a lot more alerts than usual and i discover that we are in mid cancellation by dis twitter and every don't say don't say dis twitter don't give

the people the satisfaction what do you mean why not i i think that's absolutely what it is because i don't consider our listeners dis twitter i get this type of person this is dis twitter my friend that's who are all if you're like and i'll show you what he's using it as in a bad way yes yeah no i get it i just like oh i don't want to i don't forgot i forget about that phrase and then i see and i'm like guys we must remember the phrase so that we're different, so that we're better, so that we rise above this Twitter. Sorry, I spend plenty of time online researching the parks, but I spend most of my time in General Mills Twitter. Okay. Jen Mill Twit.

Jen Mill. You know. Just looking for Boo Berry hot takes. No. So like suddenly all these replies always from people who do not follow us who have never interacted with us before and just to cherry pick a few uh it's all it's bad take bizarre take this post is so lazy this is lazy well you're right but that's when you have an observation and you write it down. Yeah, it doesn't take a lot of work. You know, this is not if actually this is not a fair comparison.

Actually, what you've done is picked the worst view. And if you turn your camera around, what you will see is that I didn't take the picture. I can't turn my camera around. I saw a photo of grass and it looks like boring grass. And then a lot of people and then like like boring grass um and then a lot of people and then like you know it's um it's not a new land it's a rethemed land and honestly open park grass is so rare in a theme park that i well still rare apparently still rare disaster if you turn the camera around you would have just seen a particle war construction walls

like that's what you save and turn the together. Yeah, what is that look? I don't know. Any view of this grass should be, like, of course when you choose the view of the grass, that's the bad view. But if you use the good view, it will be a good view. What do you mean? I haven't been in the grass.

I saw one photo of the grass like this. This is the enemy, what Jordan has brought up. There's a little Twitter bird with mouse ears, and this is the this is the problem well well well it seems like times like this we'd all be much better off with unannounced tweet limits of like you sent two tweets today slow down yeah i tried to make a joke today and then it was like you have reached your tweet limit for the day what there's a tweet limit have i tweeted anything today i think we treated three things as far as i knew there was not a limit that was three yeah but then actually then what

you have to do is just schedule a tweet one minute in advance and that's fine you can do that forever but what in the world what is happening to twitter but anyway um and here's what it built up to and this wasn't uh oh wait, one more that I like. You know, Toontown is notorious for being a concrete jungle. Where dreams are made of. It's notorious. Where dreams are made of. Yeah, yeah.

Which isn't that... That's a beautiful thing. A concrete jungle is a nice thing. Like New York City or Buena Park. That's right. Notorious. I mean, it's like, you know, you pretty much... You got San Quentin and you got Toontown like in terms of just like just yards yeah where you got you know children have been afraid of getting curb stomped in toontown for many years and i that finally

they've made it impossible and i'm i for one welcome the rise of film noir in america you know it's it's movies like the naked city or the stranger and then it ends with a toontown 1994's disney's toontown anyway what it what it then builds to and jason you were you kind of alluded to this is that like and this wasn't a response to us this was a response to other people who posted uh almost no comment with just pictures of the grass. Childless dorks will never understand the benefit to parents of the simple pleasures in a busy place of a plot of grass. Just a place where a child can roam free and just be just be themselves like how are we it's become we've become

Walt Whitman about a plot of fake about a putting green that has been open for less than 24 hours just a simple place

300 feet of a putting green is this not what makes America great I think of Yosemite and I think

of the Grand Tetons and this plot of grass this is what our country is made of wishful thinking too of like well their reality is going to be it's going to be filled with uh you know crushed cheese crackers and the smell of uh soil diapers within one hour of the land opening that is what the garden hose allotment in the budget is for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Push it out. But when I hear this, that childless dorks will not understand grass, I have a child.

I was a childless dork. I'll give you that. That's how we got into this podcast. But I have a child, and I have been to one if not two if not three parks every day for the last two and a half years you know parks like real places with grass that are beautiful that are made organically and that have like built up nature and culture over the year that are like uh genuine places with lots of space for kids to run around and you know things to do like last i checked kids like swings and slides yeah you know stuff like that that's what the one thing

kids like is stuff and and when i'm looking at this pot of grass i don't know that it has a lot of stuff there's not a lot of stuff yes so this is just i what what i have if you don't agree with the joke that's one thing but now that you're now you are telling me if you don't agree with the joke, that's one thing. But now you are telling me that I don't understand grass? The concept of grass. I guess you're just Mr. Big City. Do you remember what this is? Are we so cynical?

This is called a blade. And all of life comes from this. Don't you see where are the country mice to go they were already run out when the orange groves were taken away this is all we have now it's a tribute to

Anaheim's past anyway with all this I needed to check out the grass for myself I have a picture of myself on the myself. I'm trying to have a picture of myself on the grass. I'm trying to figure it out. I'm getting my head around the grass. What happens is then my son is let loose on the grass,

runs around playing happy. I pick him up. We start doing like our favorite game, the kind of spin around games that we love. He loves the grass. It's the happiest he's been all morning. Aaron loves the grass. We turn to each other and we both say, all right, the grass is good.

Yeah. After all that. Okay. The grass is good. Maybe the grass is good. Mike, you felt similar? Oh, this is my son squishing my face on the grass. His personality was coming out.

He really was wound up. He was so happy on the grass. I came into the land, and I immediately looked over, and there were just children just running back and forth. We're wrong. The lack of hills were alive with the sound of children laughing and parents were sitting there watching the children children's are it didn't look as bad yeah no i have to admit that too it photographed badly photographs nonsense about like but it's the bad view of

the grass that's bullshit it's there's no it just looks kind of weird in a lot of pictures in a lot of yeah when you're there now i see you gotta seeing the fun uh obviously they could have done a better job with it this is what yes i no one no the children would not be upset if it was like a little landscape till yeah and it's disney yes but when i went over there the grass was a big hit with a lot of people i have to admit i i just i wanted to do the build-up with the monologue i wanted to get the rant out of my system i still feel everything i felt in the rant sure here's what here my ruling grass good dis twitter bad okay that's well and let's see what happens when you add a few more dozen people hanging out on that grass. We'll see.

It's going to turn into Altamont. It's going to turn into Altamont. Look, Disney's been saying for a long time, we need to let children run in the theme parks a little more. Children love running by the concrete there's more uh the more as long as the green space opens on the other side i it's just if that green space should be better it should not be big putting greens it cannot be another big putting green because i think it will make the whole whole of toontown seem bad because this is just a little chunk when you come in on the right so when you look over you're not really seeing that it's astroturf you're just

seeing people sitting and playing and you still see Roger Rabbit and you still see all the stuff. So yes, it cannot be putting green on the left. So we'll see. Eyes are on the next batch of grass. The next batch of grass is where we will really make the grass determination.

Yeah, we will do a new Toontown episode, I think, when it's open to make the determination. I don't have a pass. Do I have to get a pass just to see the grass determination. Yeah, we will do a new Toontown episode, I think, when it's open to make the determination. I don't have a pass. Do I have to get a pass just to see the grass? You do. A lot of them have already sold out again. I know. I had a one-day pass, and I tried to renew,

and it said, would you like the Inspire? And I thought, that's the one I had, right? The cheap one? No, I had Imagine. Inspire is extremely expensive. That's the one I had, right? The cheap one? No. I had Imagine. Inspire is extremely expensive. That's the expensive one, yes. I am glad I didn't just squint at a word that starts with an I and ends with an E and buy it. And then when I saw it, it's only $140 a month after the down payment.

Oh, you could buy a lot of grass seed for that money. We can plant this magical grass. That is suddenly so important to every. You know what it is mainly is this word take. And this is where listeners, I love you because you knew it was a joke. And then Diz Twitter is like, actually, joke is not a thing. There are takes and that is what everything is, is take. So get your facts straight because you wrote a take.

It was a lazy take. I know. I tweeted. I was watching the Indiana Jones trailer, and there's a picture where Harrison Ford's on a horse, and it's not him because the horse is going nuts, and it's a CGI Harrison Ford. And I was just watching it, and one of the screens popped out of me

as it's funny because his head looked tiny because it's been superimposed on this body and i posed a photo with a joke or whatever i and somebody's like what you want an 80 year old man to be riding a horse yeah and i was like yes and i want him to get hurt again like i want harrison's for i want harrison ford's bones cracking that's what want. That's what you Taskmaster Mike demand. Somebody was like, nerds should never have had a pause feature or something. And I was like, what? What are you talking about?

And someone was like, blah, blah, blah. CGI is fine if you don't nitpick it or something. And I was like, I don't care. I thought it was funny. This is a big missing point. I know that it sounds like I care about the grass because I just yelled about the grass for 10 minutes. But hopefully in the interest of being funny, this is what the take of the joke people miss. They think that you have initiated a debate.

I'm like, no, this goes one way. You know how in a comedy club you have a microphone and you talk? Not that we know. We're not stand-ups. Not yet. We're getting there uh we're building up to it but you know we're working on being truth tellers and then we'll get to that level well i think we could get on club random with that jessica rabbit take yeah yeah so um

oh my god that harrison florida so i'm just to pick that apart also, that person has come out, their take is anti-pause button. I think that's... The pause button is the worst. Some people say there never should have been an internet, how it's divided us. I say it's the pause button. VHSs shouldn't have had them. They shouldn't have them on film sets. Those two little lines are the death of culture.

You can pick apart. Yes. CGI now, which is bad. And then some people there are always like making a point about CGI. And I'm like, I don't know. There it is. Oh, I said it. I was I was trying to make sure that it was the right thing. But no, it is five likes on that.

Who are these five likes? They don't listen to podcasts. They're right. I guarantee it was funny. His head was small. It just looked funny. It looked like a funny picture. What can I tell you?

You know what I saw when I saw that? I saw one perfect shot. It should have been on the Twitter. One perfect shot. Well, that is one that we're like, okay, this got out of hand really fast. That is the TriStar logo. That has played before a lot of movies. Jordan, I just emailed you a picture.

If you could throw it up. Because we're talking about Indiana Jones. This is the cardboard standee. What? For it. No, this is the cardboard standee for Indiana Jones. I sent this to Mike because I was at the movie seeing Megan. Megan, very good.

Very fun. She's a little creep. She's a little creep she's a little creepo um uh but uh yeah this is um similarly to like they kind of didn't go all the way with this CGI some of the marketing

material leaves a little to be desired I mean Dial of Destiny I think Jason be careful you're gonna get some blowback from whenever this is about to be oh that's great I have all notifications turned off except text messaging and phone calls. So I'm sorry if you got, did you get all those podcast, the ride, Twitter, like reply notifications? Do you have notifications? Because you always have notifications on for apps, remember? I think I might have some notifications turned on.

But for Mike, that's, you dump a... That's my lifeblood. You dump a bucket of water into the Mississippi River. Yeah, that keeps me going. That's your notification. That kept me going when I was tired on Monday walking around because I hadn't walked around in so long. It's your crank. It's my crank.

You just need to hit some notifications to get the adrenaline up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I like it is what I'm saying. But no, I don't. I'm overwhelmed more by deals being notifications. Drop everything else. Is it tough for you to do these podcast records where that's two hours at least? Where I might miss a deal. Yeah.

I have missed deals from doing the podcast. Yeah. Do we need to end it? Do we need to end it just so that you can or just give you the ability to still be checking the deals while we record there's there's a new guy i follow that's got such good deals that yes maybe because of this new twitter account deal vibes will that turn it on for tax message jay you turn that on deal vibes overrides let's let's set it up uh jordan we'll do this here at forever doug let's patch deal vibes right into the podcast and gear so that like there's just a robot voice reading

deal vibes mike yeah yeah mike gets deal vibes notifications scott's get uh scott gustin notifications so you can actually learn when magic uh keys are on sale because disney is no help that's true uh alerting people. This is the standee. Jason, what is your issue with this? It's just kind of him in the shadows. There's nothing about this movie. It's just the logo

and then he's just hanging out in darkness. Most of this standee is darkness. Maybe he's in a cave and lava's pouring behind him. Maybe he's in a gold smelting facility. I don't know. I don't have such an issue with that standee there. It just seems like nothing.

It just seems like a standee took a photo. Well, it's just wetting your appetite to see the old man again. I guess so. It lets you know he's not shaving. He's got a real stubbly chin. So maybe he's had a rough run of time. And you don't know. He tries calling Mutt, and Mutt doesn't call him back.

Right. And you don't know what he's lookingt and mutt doesn't call him back right and you don't know what he's looking at what and like what he's doing with his hands is he turning a dial is he turning a dial left is he turning it right he's he's reading a newspaper that says mutt williams causes gulf of tonkin incident sentenced to life in jail war in vietnam begins isn't that isn't it more funny as your imagination, Jason? I suppose. I suppose. You know, childless dorks will never understand the benefit of just a simple teaser standee.

That's right. Well, but I've got disposable income to spend on all the grass seed and sod that I could need. I don't have a Twitter account that gives me updates on sod deals, but I should. Oh, Sir Sod? You don't follow Sir Sod? Sales on sod. Sod sales, in fact. All right.

Let's talk about Mickey Mouse. All right. All right. From the grass to the ride. If you don't know, there is a ride past the grass. And, yeah, it's brand sparkling new, looks wonderful, a great exterior in Disneyland. The full story here, if you don't know it,

there has never been a Mickey and Minnie ride before. There's not really been a ride with the primary characters, as far as I can recall. No, maybe they appear in little fits and starts never but you've never there's never been something where you get in a ride vehicle that moves that has mickey and minnie in it because they have the mickey mouse review which is a show basically in disney world but yeah this is the philhar magic or something yes a ride and the ride's gonna take you to see mickey little never happened little great movie where i sliver

head sorcerer mickey oh that's true great movie where i sliver head sorcerer mickey oh that's true right yeah that's true scene oh that's a good point but disney is is selling this it's like oh the first full mickey mouse ride actual mickey mini ride and specifically it is the style of these shorts that we've spoken very highly of that i think are just called mickey mouse so they've put them out under different names. But these wonderful, visually dynamic, super manic, really funny for all ages shorts that have been coming out since 2013. Paul Rudish, the creative force behind them. And, I mean, what a cool – it's going to be a Mickey ride, but attributing this world of animation specifically because there's something.

They're weird cartoons, too. They're weird. I have a few things on that. Todd Martins mentioned that, like, oh, this ride is more like a screwball 1930s cartoon short. I do wonder when I read that, it's like's like oh is that what's missing from a lot of popular movies and tv it's like oh yeah well we don't have screwball like just see like john cena like holding too many plates or like getting knocked by a door oh but he gets butt chugs and blockers is that blockers i think is a thing that people liked. There was crazy antics and that.

Yeah, screwball. Let's ask the audience, is Blockers screwball? Is Blockers screwball? Is Blockers screwball? I guess. There's screwing in it. There's balls in it. Well, not if they have their druthers.

Was there any? Did Hepburn or Tracy butt chug in any of their films? No. Just to prepare for the scene yeah that was a whole that was a medical just constantly drinking off screen and on so the shorts okay

they are just called Mickey Mouse from 2013 to 2018 was the first run and then in 2020 they've referred to them as the wonderful world of Disney they started the wonderful world of Mickey Mouse they started or the wonderful world of mickey mouse um paul rudish as very interesting to career a lot of work with gendy tartakovsky i think that's how you say that he worked on the star wars clone wars uh early in his career he worked in storyboard and character development on batman the animator series geez unfortunately found out he's a freaking

nepo baby he's a nepo baby his father created Rainbow Bright wow really wow I didn't know that rainbow babies maybe we finally found

the point where I am bothered by the phrase. Because, you know, if there's talent. I think what people maybe miss about Nepo babies, what is being implied is that the baby is not very talented. Oh, sure. If the baby is talented, there is not a problem. Yeah, that becomes a dynasty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those happen. there's very stacked

which this is incredible if that's a like animation legend father and son uh and god knows yeah this guy's worked on incredible stuff my little pony as well like kind of concurrently with these mickey mouse shorts people with my little pony samurai Samurai Jack, Powerpuff Girls. It's all stuff people super love. And I saw there was a panel, I think, that Rudish spoke on about this attraction, and he made a point I thought was interesting, which is how there's a cool thing that this isn't a ride based on stuff that was made 20 years ago,

and we're sort of stabbing at a style that hasn't... These are very current, and it's completely... It is the artists and animators and voice actors and everybody who works on their shorts putting the ride together, so there's a real direct through-line... The vibe is exactly correct. And he pointed out how it's actually very early Disneyland that that is the case

because in 55 you have like Claude Coates and those kind of people like Claude Coates is painting the Snow White background or whatever and he did the background of the movie too so it's actually like hearkening

back to kind of a cool, you know, tradition that maybe Disney has not had for a little bit. Yeah, it's like the same people were, I mean, yeah, I'm trying to think, yeah. They don't, I guess like Guardians of the Galaxy's new and new-ish movie, and it's a new-ish ride, obviously. It's true, it's not like- And Avatar is like the Avatar people.

But yeah, it's, but it's, asish ride obviously but it's not like the avatar people but yeah it's but it's as far as the animated stuff yeah it feels like that is hasn't happened for a while if we by the way i haven't said this on the show i don't think that this this victory that i had that i'm very proud of that the composer oh right way of water but also i think at least one of the writers of the Shaman of Songs song liked my Pyacon song. I was beaming about that. That's great. He replied several times to my account to podcast the ride. Yes, I guess I'm in the same league as Simon Franklin.

Two composers. Simon Franklin, I think. Just two Avatar composers talking shop on Twitter. Simon Franklin. Yeah composers. Simon Franklin, I think. Just two Avatar composers talking shop. Franklin. Simon Franklin. Yeah, that freaked me out. That's incredible. That's a good Twitter notification.

You know, that's why Twitter sold. Yes, that's why you have to keep it. That's why Twitter sold for so much money. You got the highest of highs and the lowest of lows, you know, happening all at once. Oh, wait, that was a high of high. That means the devil's coming for me. Uh-oh.

No. Watch out. And he's going to be in a cheap-looking naughty devil outfit that he got at a costume store. By the way, really, let's try not to stay on this for too long, but this is kind of fresh in the news, that Iger announces there is an Avatar something. Oh, right, right, right.

An experience, he says, coming to disneyland and we were texting about this today um mike took the uh you could say pessimist you could probably say realist view that you think this is not well i think he would have said attraction if if it was going to be a cloned attract i've seen a lot of people online say oh this is going into the espn zone and it's like a walk through i think there's one in is it shanghai there's one of the one of I've seen a lot of people online say, oh, this is going into the ESPN zone, and it's like a walkthrough. I think there's one in, is it Shanghai? One of the parks has like a walkthrough attraction that's just sort of like...

Hong Kong, maybe? Maybe it's Hong Kong. There's a very elaborate exhibit. Yeah, it's just like sort of an exhibit thing. There was another part of that where they said they were exploring other ways to get the characters in, but I feel like he's saying attraction. Plus, they cut like

$700 million out of their theme park budget, I believe, as well, they said on this call today. And they're laying 7,000 people off. So I have a feeling it's not we're getting any part of Pandora anytime soon, but I hope I'm wrong. I think they should kill two birds with one stone

and make it the ESPN zone located on Pandora, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think that's actually a very good idea. Rainforest Cafe is still open as Star Wars, like, I don't know if they're calling it Launch Bay, but the Rainforest Cafe is now like a rebel base. Oh, yeah.

Or is it like a trading post or something? Yeah, that's what they call it. So then Pandora will be next door probably at the ESPN zone. That'd be the dream of the humans for sure. Miles Kourich is opening an ESPN zone on Pandora. You gotta civilize this place! There's too much grass!

See, Na'vi sports playing. You know, that would be fun. we're gonna represent the low we're gonna air local games it's gonna be great you'll love it and we got an agreement with caesar's sports book those commercials play every commercial break i um eiger said that they're not gonna sell espn but that the previous administration was thinking about it. Oh, interesting. So Iger wants to keep ESPN. Okay. He's intimidated by just the sheer presence of Dana White's slap fight on TBS.

Got her familiar with this real quick? It's really shocking, really unpleasant. It's the UFC guy has a new thing, a new sports endeavor where two guys just stand and they just slap each other really hard. Sounds like the devil has come for all of the participants in the slap fight. Well, it's Dana White, so he might be the devil. Possible. You got me.

I was watching a walkthrough. There's a great account called Document Disney, and they just do rides and lands and hotels and everything. And from two days ago, their walkthrough of downtown Disney is very funny because there is so much branding and statues for this Disney 100 thing, but a good chunk of downtown Disney is construction walls and active construction sites. So it's just statues by like, okay, we crammed a bunch of picnic tables for people to sit at if they go to the food truck. And the AMC Theater building is gone.

Oh, yeah. It is an empty lot. I didn't see that. I mean, maybe it will become grass. Don't make fun of it, though. Fingers crossed. So anyway, we got the personnel of these great cartoons. And this all sort of, because it opens in Florida first.

And I don't know, maybe the intention was always to make it like a multi-park franchise, but it seems like it initially must have grown out of uh wanting for some reason to replace the great movie ride yes uh if i still can't imagine why you'd want to do such a thing i think i i was listening to a podcast i'll find it and i'll plug it in a second because i can't remember it off the top of my head but i think there were that was the initial thing and then they were like just when they designed it they were like well we could also put this into disneyland so i think you're right i think the start of it was like we want to replace the great movie ride it was spurred by

because we and you got a big footprint there and like a you know if we clear everything out that's like a tremendous amount of space like giant rooms where you could do something sprawling right with which this attraction certainly is. There were rumors for a while it was going into California Adventure. I don't know if that was ever possible, but I remember hearing that a lot, that they were going to put that on the lot, in the Hollywood lot.

That's a good Hollywood choice. Which would have been something big to finally be good over there. Disney History Institute podcast, which I didn't know existed until that website yeah uh didn't even know existed until today when i was listening to this and it's got a lot of the good history and of this ride and no like you mean without like a big screed against the grass dana white stuff talk about the jessica rabbit trench coat yeah none of it all right so if you want the pure

we should have given the people this plug early in the show if they wanted to go switch to something purely for information. Just, you know, because we can like step through what's what's cool about this thing and the differences between the two iterations. But but maybe just to like dive in and like emotional reaction from it let's just talk about like the basics of of what this is um which is i mean the headline of it and the technology of it is you were you were truly in the world of these cartoons they use the phrase two and a half d it is not a 3d ride you don't wear glasses on this um but it is crystal clear just a immaculate footage that you're watching. And it's these giant expansive rooms that 360 degrees every way that you turn is is just bright, splashy, dynamic, hand drawn looking backgrounds, art, animation that led you into the world of these like madcap adventures of Mickey and Minnie. Um, it's just like,

like the most bright visual carnival of a ride. How's everybody, how we all feel about it. I rode this with when my family and I were down in Florida, it was the first day. I think it was the first thing we rode because rises of resistance was, uh, broken.

Um, so we went on this, which I was, I had not seen anything about i and i knew about the theater i knew about the you go into the screen um and i was delighted by this i i was just i was shocked i thought it was so fun i thought it was so uh just neat like everyone uh really liked it my family really liked it um i was singing that song to myself all week uh the entire time we're there the last day or second to last day we're there we went back on disney plus day went back to hollywood studios and um everything at a really long wait but my dad and i like stuck it out and rode this again because

like i i am riding this again i thought this was great yeah i want to be like up to speed on it and i i just thought uh it's really technically impressive and i think it's really fun i think i would say more fun like more bouncy goofy fun than say like i don't want to start pitting it against like rise of the resistance i think it's go ahead go ahead i think it's the best thing imagine wait hold on let me do it do it it's more it's easily more fun and and at this point less work than rise of the resistance um i think it's the best thing dis Disney has done since like the year where they had Pandora and Guardians of the Galaxy within weeks apart. Wow. Wow. Crazy. Yeah. Hard to argue that. Mike, what do you think? Yeah, it's it's great. I anything that I have as an issue with it is really minor, but it does.

I don't know. It does everything you would want it to do. The technology. It's like, it's pretty much if, if, if you were completely anti screen on rides, this would hopefully make you go, okay, well,

yeah, it does not have to be what we're accustomed to. It does not. It doesn't have to be what kind of worse era universal, why we started aiding screen rides. Right. And I'm sure as screen resolution continues to improve, I feel like this is going to age much better than so much stuff.

Like I think so. Cause the way it's seamlessly integrated into 3d stuff in the ride and practical stuff is pretty seamless where I'm watching videos and I go, I can't, I think that might be painted, I can't tell like I feel like this might be just a painted wall and I can't tell yes yeah it's such a and the thing is we've seen certain things like the Harry Potter paintings in the queue or whatever where you can't quite tell but this is on such a scale that every second you can look any direction in any of these massive show rooms and you're not exactly

sure what you're looking at like is every wall projected is only part of it projected and and the answer seems to be somewhere in between or in some rooms it is entirely projected but then it still requires big physical you know because you want it for there to be a big physical footprint and a little bit of thrill and movement, and it completely has that too, so you'd never call it a screen ride because you move a ton, and there's huge set pieces

and incredible sculpture work, like that tornado towards the beginning. Yeah, great, yeah. Yeah, screen ride would be a bizarre thing to call it, even if it technically is at some points. But it's, yeah. Yeah, I don't know how they, I mean, I guess it's a lot of projection

from inside things. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the first time riding it, yeah, same thing, could not tell. Like, what is a set and what is, I knew the, I think i had heard about the fountain like there you go by a fountain at one point and the water is like projection the water is moving

but the uh i think the fountain is painted yes yeah where there's like yeah like little ribbons cute little like arcs of water but they project water splashes onto it to give it movements and visual electricity. And maybe I'm getting this wrong, but then when you see Donald at the carnival or something, Donald is animated, but the background is not. Or something back there isn't. His background is just a painted thing, but Donald himself is animated, and maybe it's a piece of glass or something in between. There's some sort of thing going on there where it completely confuses your brain.

You cannot decipher. And you just saw it without any character. When you arrive in the room, there's nothing, and then this room turns on as if like somebody's flipping switch switch switch switch yeah and so surfaces that have nothing are now bright with color and visual information um in that case i think like and this happens a couple times i think with the little bird at the end too i watched a video that explained how there's like there's the character on one screen but then there's another screen in the back that is just for its shadow and that gives it depth which is i guess something they do in rise of

the resistance too like maybe uh the the like uh the like torture room or whatever with kylo ren oh yeah that's something that makes it like give that gives it depth and it doesn't just look like uh you know a screen with a character yes the screen pushes forward sorry or no wait that's I forget that's not the interrogation room but that's like there's another element of when he's coming at you on Rise of the Resistance that I didn't know when he like lands before the

saver comes in that's a projection of him but I didn't realize the screen sort of thing that's that's he's being projected on it's moving forward to make him appear like he's walking and getting bigger thing that's he's being projected on and it's moving forward to make him appear like he's walking and getting bigger. Oh, that's cool. The bird is named Chubby. Oh. The little bird

and I remember that you can buy a plush of Chubby. Oh, really? At Hollywood Studios and I'm assuming soon Disneyland. But it's on Shop Disney. The gift shop was closed when I left. Yeah yeah i don't remember it was sort of renovate i think that's where the gift shop was but sort of when you came out there

were a lot of curtains and uh stuff under whatever so i guess the gift shop is not available so again we'll review that when we do toontown yeah i was trying to find i wish there was like some blog or something where like they would literally break down each room of some of these newer rides because so many of the older things have obviously books and stuff written about them but there's a channel called how it works i know that's the channel but that the videos are called that and which break which broke down some of this stuff right and does for newer rides and but even there then they'll admit they're they're guessing yes right because they're trying to keep some of the and this ride has some great effects where you are not sure exactly what's going on

and you have to stop and think about it for a minute. I guess with that in mind, let's start breaking down stuff in it that's cool. And one thing, like, okay, so Jason did it in Florida. Mikey did it in Disneyland. I've been able to do both. Yeah. And if you're comparing them, I think the only thing,

the Florida one is great. It's a great experience. Yeah. And you got to give it to, I think, that neon sign outside. Oh, yeah. It's really nice. And just the fact that the chinese theater exterior and interior from the great movie rider are still intact it is really like lovely and ornate and classic hollywood in there however you do this toontown one and oh my god it's so much fun and it just makes so much

more sense yes that it's not just like pure Chinese theater until one turn. And finally, it gets cartoony. It is cartoony from the get go from the outside. It's so fun. I really love the Disneyland. Compared to the grass, the El Capitune, the theater in Toontown looks terrific. Yeah. And also looks I mean, I know they always, often do this, but it feels like it's

been there forever. In a good way. In a good way. Which is nice because I wanted Toontown to still feel early 90s. Yes, right. Because that's what it is to me. And it kind of does. And there's a lot of, as we'll mention, there's a lot of early 90s tributing going on.

Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. The interior, like you said, kept like the Chinese theater. If you go to the actual Chinese theater, the TCL, is that the current name? If you go there, you will get stabbed. Potentially. A lot of, yeah, it's very similar inside. It's really kind of a very tiny lobby. They've converted the theater itself to like stadium seating IMAX,

but a similar vibe to the, you know, Disney replica of the Chinese theater. And I like that. I will say the overflow queue is just on the kind of brutal cement outside of the theater. Like, and it,

it, it's not comfortable to stand on. brutal cement outside of the theater. It's not comfortable to stand on and the elements are not forgiving. Should be on some AstroTurf. AstroTurf would be a godsend right there. Notorious concrete jungle. Notorious cement jungle.

I did it in July in 90 degree. I found that I had a screenshot of the temperature because I was clearly like I was needing to vent to people what line I was at, what line I imposed on myself that I'm doing solo. But like 90 degree and intense humidity and it's most of an 80 minute line is just in that Chinese theater courtyard, just back and forth, back and forth. And at that point in time, I am so sure I am getting the Delta variant right then and there, which I did not. But I was really stressed the entire time. Horrible.

So who knows? I don't know where they send the overflow in this Disneyland one because it's virtual queue, which worked pretty well. If you don't sleep through it, you... Oh, I had to do the 1 p.m. one. You did get the 1 p.m. one? Yeah.

That's a good set. The fact that you can, that they aren't just all toast that early in the morning, I got on it pretty early. I was on by 9.30 or so. Yeah. And it's, yeah, I don't know pretty efficient it's not as bad as Rise of the Resistance was for so long no yeah you can pay 15 dollars and do it

oh that's true that keeps haunting you with that like you know you can pay right now buddy yeah um but you get into the El Capitan theater Theater, a play on the El Capitan Theater, another Hollywood Boulevard theater, the one that Disney owns. And very quickly, it's all of these great movie posters that are all cartoonified versions of live action Disney films. You get a Newsies. I should have written down the puns. There's a Newsies. There's a Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. There's a Mighty Ducks.

There's an Absent-Minded Professor. Throw out the pun ones. There's a ton of them, too, which is fun. I have photos of a few, although now I don't remember which. Toonsies. Toonsies. Wonderful. That's cute.

Honey, I Shrunk the Nieces. And that's Minnie and her nieces. Yeah. Let's cute. Honey, I Shrunk the Nieces. And that's Minnie and her nieces. Yeah. Let's see. Walt Disney. Goofy Friday. Like Freaky Friday. Freaky for the 70s.

Freaky Friday. Where he and Max switch. Absent-minded Professor Von Drake. And they're all, they really match styles perfectly, too, for the original posters of the parody. It is so i i really appreciated that level of like okay it is exactly like a 60s hand-drawn poster and that like there's a couple that i have jordan if you could pull these up there we go there's the scroogiest millionaire

i mean that's so great um and that's a delicate thing to like draw cartoon characters but convey a different art style when like when it's all drawn. You've got to get that exactly right. And fonts are perfect. So 1969. Actually, there's another one. There's this parent trap one. You still have the Journey video game loaded.

Yay. Well, now we know we can just do that whenever we want. This here, the chipmunk trap, which is clearly the Lindsayindsey lohan parent trap um which has i always forget this is a nancy myers movie oh right and thus it has a very nancy myers poster and i just appreciate that like wow they can do 1969 like closer to walt era posters and then get kind of the subtlety of more recent Nancy Meyers posters so well. It's really, it's all ends of the spectrum. That other one in the middle that you

had, Jordan, uh, this is a Hocus Pocus parody called Miska Muska. And, uh, and it's fun in general, but I have to, I'm just gonna, I don't have to admit this to the audience but I feel like I should be forthcoming I passed by this I thought it was fun and then I couldn't believe this came out of my mouth especially given her reaction but what I said to Aaron was I think the Sarah Jessica Parker daisy is

kind of hot wow is there can we get a zoom in on Sarah Jessica Parker computer enhanced Wow. Can we get a zoom in on Sarah Jessica Parker? Computer enhanced. Wow. By the way, that is the most sexual thing that's ever been said on this show in like an aggressive way. You found that aggressive? Jason, would you also vote that that is aggressive?

For this podcast? Look, I can see both sides of the aisle, I can see both sides of the aisle. I can see both sides of the aisle. I understand where Mike's coming from, but I thought you said it pretty thoughtfully and considerate. That's right. I sure did. It's a compliment.

It's a compliment to Sir Jessica Parker-ified Daisy. Yeah, you're talking about this specific version of Daisy. I couldn't believe that. Yeah, I don't know. I haven't been attracted to Daisy before. Hair looks great. It's the hair. You know what I think it is? Eyelashes are great. Wardrobe's great.

You know what I think it is? It's the attitude. Yeah. Which is really what's attractive about people often. It's the attitude. She's got a cool attitude going. You know what else is weird, though? I didn't specifically have a crush on that Sir Jessica Parker. I don't remember the name of that sister. But it's not like I'm bringing that into the picture.

I didn't like Daisy, and I didn't like Sir Jessica Parker, but you put them together, and I'm in love. Wow, interesting. And my wife was like, ick. Yeah, I mean, what else is she supposed to say? Yeah, yeah. It's also rare that I will say that, that I will vocalize an attraction

even to, like, a celebrity, and that what I chose to do it for was Daisy Duck. I don't know. I kind of like the Kathy Najimy Clarabelle up there. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, let's say all three of them

have their virtues. Well, you know me. I like the Midler Mini the best. Well, there's, hey, say all three of them have their virtues. Well, you know me. I like the Midler Mini the best. Well, there's three of them and three of us. Enough to go around. It's not cheating if they're cartoons. That's what I say. It's not cheating if it's impossible.

It becomes cheating if we were to hit up people who make the action figures that you like and say, hey, could you do some really realistic... Here's this poster. Could you just physicalize these and make them as tall as us? Yeah, that is way different. As long as we're not... But if you went to some sort of an inventor and said, make us an invention and we can go inside the cartoon, that's problematic. Um,

Hmm. Yeah. Do hall Pat would hall passes be okay in a world where you have a cartoonifying machine? Because that also, here's the issue though, Mike is that you can get the invention that cartoonifies you. Yeah.

Let's assume that's possible, right? Does it make every cartoon that's ever existed real? Well, that's up to the inventor to do it. That's a lot of work. That's a lot of work. That is God. That is creating a universe.

Thanks for the close-up. Oh, that's good. There's my close-up. Well, hold on. I need some clarification from you, Scott. They have had walk-around versions of these at some of the Halloween parties. Have they? Not of

Daisy. Yeah. What? All three of them. These characters have previously played. This exists as a character in three dimensions. You're kidding. What did you search to find this? Mickey's Not So Scary Hocus Pocus. Is that what it looks like? Hocus Pocus Mini. Because the Sanderson sisters, the real ones, are

also at the Halloween party. I bet suit real ones, are also at the Hollywood party. I bet suit real life Daisy doesn't have the same attitude as this poster, though. Yeah, I'm looking at photos. No, I don't have the same thing. Lust, yeah. No. But now, if there was an opportunity for me to hug that character, I think this would be very upsetting to you, Mike.

I think that is a cross of the line. You talk about aggression. I know you wouldn't be okay with me hugging that character. I think this would be very upsetting to you, Mike. I think that is a cross of the line. You talk about aggression. I know you wouldn't be okay with me hugging that character. I wouldn't be okay, yeah. Just don't show it to me. I'm fine with... Whatever you do behind closed doors, by which I mean at a theme park with someone taking a picture of it. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, that would be different, yeah. You don't know how to describe it, but you know it when you see it. Yeah. Huh. I didn't know... I'll say this. I don't think I immediately was it, but you know it when you see it. Yeah. Huh. I didn't know. I'll say this. I don't think I immediately was attracted to any of the posters in line in that way. Are there others?

I'm trying to think. Is there going to be candidates? Well, everybody likes that girl from Goofy Movie. From Goofy Movie, yeah. And again, we were all the same age when we saw the movie for the first time, so I don't think that that's... Younger even. That was aspirational when we saw the movie for the first time. So I don't think that that's younger even, but it was aspirational when we're 11.

And another one of Mike's science fiction stories where scientists are inventing cartoon race for him. Not for me, for anyone. Roxanne is a high powered big city lawyer. And you're saying I've worked out a scenario where she's now an adult and i'm an adult and the inventor with the cartoon ray shoots me and then i meet her in some sort of a meet cute in the cartoon world in toontown i'm imagining the cartoon race series as a multi-volume

like sort of thing like you remember i'm sure you had this at your high school the kid who was like writing like his own science fiction stuff his own like and would start numbering his volume he's like okay well the next book in the series and it's like you are 11 please slow it down

it's ambitious it's good the listener wants to write this series of perverse cartoon podcast the ride fan fiction Jordan's given us another option it's scrooge mcduck's wife or mom oh yeah what character is that i might know the name of this character because there's a if if this is correct because there is separately in runaway railway there's like a trivia wall about like the history of the el capatune and i saw a sign and i didn't know

what this was referring to uh the very first ticket sold at the el Capitune. And I saw a sign, and I didn't know what this was referring to. The very first ticket sold at the El Capitune was purchased by Casey Coote's sister, Elvira Coote. And I'm like, who's Elvira Coote? And Elvira Coote is apparently Donald Duck's grandmother, who does appear on DuckTales, maybe in flashbacks, or maybe still alive. I don't know. But it looked kind of like this may be Elvira Coote that we're looking at. But isn't Uncle Scrooge's uncle only one generation up? If his grandmother would be another generation up.

Yes, that might be what we're looking at. But they, you know, they coexisted. They're around. Is that Magicka Dispel with the red hat? That's clearly Magicka Dispel. I think that's Magicka Dispel. And who's under that? Let's keep going. That's i think that's magic a dispel and who's under that let's keep going that's daisy is there yeah that's donald and daisy eligible duck bachelorettes in this poster

daisy looks very jaunty in that and as does uh what's what's his face uh launch pad yeah launch pad also looks very fun he's at his he's uh holding hands with a crocodile everyone's having a nice time even the crocodile looks like a new hall pass, Mr. Crocodile here. Look at the suits that Donald and Scrooge have on. Those are like sharp, kind of retro-y suits. Everyone looks great. Everyone is in their best mode. What's Magica Dispel is the character?

It's a great hat on Magica Dispel. Yeah, the Carmen Sandiego style. Very Carmen Sandiego. And she's got a little cup of tea there. And she's the witch, basically, on the DuckTales. You remember her, Scott? She was on DuckTales. Yeah, I watched it, but I don't remember almost any of it.

Well, she's not to be trifled with, I'll tell you that. Is Gizmoduck anywhere here? I don't think he is. I swear to God, if my kid is doing a podcast in 30 years about the crap he's watching about Leo the truck you were Leo and you built the car that

was so wheels motors and wood don't you dare don't you dare son of mine you know that Paw Patrol character is kind of good looking oh no this is gonna be me what's the what's the movie where george c scott is yelling while he watches his daughter like is it like hardcore i think like no turn it off i haven't seen it i believe he's watching his

daughter have sex or she's in a she's in a you're saying watching a your kid do a podcast about hearing my son do this podcast but about the things about gecko's garage and the shows he's watching that's fair episode by episode through the filmography of mr beast no no shut up we sent a young child to college to not we paid him not to do a podcast and he used that money to pay for his college and grad school. Here's the deal. This money is entirely dependent on you not doing

a podcast. I'm going to play you an example of my podcast. Yeah, I'm with my son and I say, isn't Daisy hot? See, is this what you want to be? I don't want you to be me, son. Son, you were raised with dirty money. Money that was made

from mining nostalgia. Saying outrageous things about childhood cartoon characters. I yelled about grass for 15 minutes. I yelled about grass. To put milk in your mouth. This money is... I wasn't mining for unobtainium.

That's only an avatar, son. Disgusting money. So go to church every week to absolve me of the sins. Anyway, you know what else is in the line is that Fred R. Feamer's arm, he's skeleton number three in the skeleton dance. And I thought that was fun, that they named the skeletons in the skeleton dance. will maybe this is a little bit ahead too because they have

some fun like little stuff for the kids to twirl like the uh the propeller on a plane from plane crazy yeah yes oh and the the ships with you got a steamboat willie wheel i was telling you guys he was like on the this was a long line for he is like his dad in a good way that he has no tolerance for lines uh so uh we were like rounding a bend and like oh we need a diversion real quick here oh we got a wheel he loves to spin a big wheel it's a great line in terms of like i was tough to do i wish i had longer a longer time in that line because there's so much stuff. Look, I see your point. In terms of like, is this a very good cue? Absolutely it is.

Am I glad I saw it? Yes. Is still any cue technically skippable? Also yes. Can I say the thing that gave me – I was very tired by the time I went on, so my emotions maybe were a little bit more free-flowing but I saw something that made me feel it gave me all the feels

it was the dresser from the Lonesome Ghosts did you remember that? now wait, well here, explain it so in Lonesome Ghosts, I've talked about this it's the episode, it's the cartoon where Donald Goofy and Mickey go ghostbusting, essentially. Yeah. And as a kid, I'd watch it all the time on Halloween, multiple times. It's always been my favorite Mickey short.

Goofy gets hurt badly in it. And I didn't like that part, but it's very memorable. It's burned in my brain of Goofy hurting himself. Goofy gets stuck in this dresser while the ghosts are messing with him. So I love it. It's really what I'm saying. And I turned a corner and I saw the dresser. The dresser was made from lonesome ghosts.

And I went, I think I made a noise. I'm alone. I wasn't trying to be performative or anything. No one was there. I made my noise of like, and I was like, it's a dresser from lonesome ghosts and i got so excited well i forgot it has a big mirror on top too yes and i was showing that to my boy just to like hey there's us it was just just to show him himself in the mirror and then what should appear in the mirror but one of the lonesome ghosts yes and it worked he He went, like much like you did,

but it didn't scare him. It did because I'm concerned about that this entire time. It's a little bit of a long line for him. I'm worried about losing him because this is a big ride. Mom and dad really want to do it. And it's an all ages ride. So I want it to be fun for him so that he got a little scare and he jumped, but not a scare that made him cry.

That's great. That's nice. I was happy to see the ghost. I almost forgot about this. Yeah. Write it right up. So, yeah. There was other parts of the line I love, but that one I was like, wow.

The real thing from the real cartoon. Yeah. It's got Mickey's hat on it, too, which is fun. Because Mickey's wearing a real funny, big, like, hunting hat. It's like a Sherlock Holmes kind of hat. Yes yes you're right it is more like sherlock holmes uh i a few things about the dresser from lonesome ghost um disney see son do you want to say that phrase in your life sorry one thing about the dresser one thing just about my memories of lonesome ghost but uh dis Disney did like a walkthrough video,

like a very good video quality walkthrough of this queue. Yes. And they had Imagineers commenting on things like, oh, this and that. And the one guy like hosting it was like, and this is a treasure from the Lonesome Ghosts and we're really pushing to get this in here. My memory of Lonesome Ghosts is that

they all went into the house with weapons. Yeah, like a big musket or like shotguns. Yeah, I just remember one of them had a net and one of them just had a gun. Yeah, I think Mickey has the shotgun, but I could be wrong. Does one of them have a spear or a trident? I forget what, I feel like Goofy has the,

maybe I'm gonna, people are like, you're not a Lonesome Ghost fan. I feel like Goofy has the, maybe I'm going to, people are like, you're not a Lonesome Ghost fan. I feel like Goofy has the net, Mickey has the shotgun. And then- Actually, that was a pretty, that was pretty lazy memory about Lonesome Ghosts, 1937. I like that one extra because I really like the real Ghostbusters cartoon

and the other Ghostbusters cartoon. I did too, yeah. Yeah. With Tracy the Gorilla. Yes, and every now and then- Which was the original Ghostbusters. It was did too, yeah. Yeah. With Tracy the Gorilla. Yes. And every now and then. Which was the original Ghostbusters. It was because there was a live action one. And every now and then I'd find either,

I think there was maybe one video game or arcade of the original Ghostbusters. And at garage sales or thrift shops or something, I'd come across a toy. And you could never find those toys. Yeah. Compared to like the uh real ghostbuster toys which you walk one block and you could find them yeah there's that lonesome ghost toys i need those to be made tomorrow um the one that i

gasped that i i was shocked how excited i. And maybe I never vocalized how much I loved. I just looked it up. The short is Pluto's Christmas Tree from 1952. And there's a little lineup of when I just thought it was so clever when I was a kid that Chip and Dale are running from Pluto and they dress up. They put on a little Santa hat and a beard

to disguise themselves as candles candles but then they get lit on fire but the little like the other ornaments that have already been pilfered by Chip and Dale that was a gap and I did have to keep walking right past it maybe have we finally found a scenario where

I don't wish I had more time in the queue because the kid was gonna freak out well that's a different story. I'm not so crazy that I'm going to make a two-year-old stay in a long line. So you say. Well, we'll see. You're right. The person's going to come to shove in a year or so.

Say a prayer while we're sitting here. People are mad. People are angry at us. I think they want us to keep moving. Well, they can stay angry for all i care she's gonna cry okay she's gonna cry as long as it takes her to stop crying so she can appreciate this these are important ghosts um i think undeniably a very fun point of this queue is mickey mouse disco of course oh my god Which is kind of a broader retro room because there's also a mouser size.

Right next to it on a disco floor. Yes. It's a great floor. Which is so great. Yeah. Yeah. Really fun. This is the type of like, I haven't been on the Guardians of the Galaxy ride, but this

is the type of thing when they were saying, oh, the history of Epcot or something. Yeah. Where it's like a little wink, winking thing to the history of something in Disney that's done in a way that even if you don't know any of it it's fun and blah blah like there's none of that I think in that Guardians Q for as far as like history of Epcot but this is like this is great and even just the detail that it was organized as a tribute by Minnie and the Toontown Hysterical Society not historical society that's really cute um i think the other thing i like about it just as turn it's it's nice to see the company embracing its actual history that it has created and not just bought you know because marvel and star wars get all the play nowadays

but it's just like these mickey mouse shorts are pretty undeniable you know and lots of people have fond memories of the live action films you know and they've they've whittled it down i think to the live action films that people uh like you know yeah yeah sure yeah there was a represent representation of the patrick swayze tall tale from 1994. It's not all of them, but maybe people like tall tale. I don't know. Well, and on that point, like they know that they got to play up that goofy. They know like, you know, goofy movie has such a cult at this point. And then you get you get power limes.

You're in a little it's it's the concessions for the movie theater. The concessions are so good. I can't. They make fake consent. They made fake candy, which you know me, you know Jason, candy guys, candy boys, as you might say. And they made a bunch. You found the next podcast. Candy boys. Oh, my God.

Is that different candy every episode? That's right. It's not like Doughboys. It's pretty clean. It's candy. Pretty narrow. It's a narrow focus. I don't know. A It's not like Doughboys. It's like, it's candy. Pretty narrow. It's a narrow focus. I don't know. Everybody, a lot of people like candy, though.

A lot of people like, you're saying narrow focused? I'm saying, oh, no, our subject matter. Yeah, narrow is good. Specific is good, but lots of people like it. So big potential audience. Big potential audience. A lot of topics. Oh, boy. But they made fake candy, which looks so fun

and they really should think about making it for real they're not going to but i assume but yes power limes there's a darkwing duck candy oh i didn't see that um called i have a picture of it somewhere it's like basically like reese's like reese's cups It's called like Mallard Cups or something. And it's got the Darkwing Duck colors. The popcorn is all Mickey shaped. Did you see that? I was moving fast. The big popcorn popper is popping things and it's got the sound playing.

It's not actually popping fresh popcorn. There's a little like video kind of projection playing to make it look like it is. But if you look, the whole thing is filled with Mickey popcorn. There's a little video kind of projection playing to make it look like it is. But if you look, the whole thing is filled with Mickey popcorn. And when I say Mickey, you look closely and each kernel has a little snout and

ears. Wow. Like the detail is so small and you easily would miss that. I did miss it. Yeah, I didn't catch that. I mean, I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff like that that I don't know. But the concession area is so fun. Where you get your condiments. Oh, yeah.

Thank you. Mallard cups. Mallard cups. Yeah, there it is. I want mallard cups. I want to put a purple peanut butter cup in my mouth. Stat. Now, that's the most aggressive thing I've heard on the podcast.

Well, that's right. It is. That's the most aggressive thing I've heard on the podcast. That's my law. I'm lusting to eat a purple peanut butter cup. Mike's taking us down a tangent of all his mouth business. That's right. And I'm not ashamed of this. I want Darkwing Duck candy and I want it now.

Eat it out. They have... Alright, Scott, let's not push it. Let's not push it. and I want it now. Eat it out. Alright, Scott, let's not push it. Let's not push it. I knew that would throw everyone. Now, what is the parody movie poster of the Tim Allen, Craig Kilborn

shaggy dog? Is Craig Kilborn in that film? Craig Kilborn is the supporting I think Lee supporting actor. Is he? I know Robert Downey Jr. is in that one. It is not on Disney+.

I think I tried to find this. Wow. Craig Kilborn. I don't know that that's been parodied. And I look for the kids, the condiment stations, which is fun. Did you let your son do any of that? Yeah, briefly. The line was moving.

Yeah, right there. It does move. I wanted to be there more. There's some fun ketchup, mustard. It doesn't actually spit this stuff out. But then one of them is haggis. Oh, really? And then one of them, I forget, there's another one that's like molten.

And it's like kind of burning the countertop. I'm sorry. I'm a little distracted because I just found a review of The Shaggy Dog 2006. Go ahead. You know, I must admit, when I first saw this movie, when it came out, it was incredible. And know that I'm all grown up. It's even more terrific it's nice to have to see the santa claus and the voice of buzz lightyear get turned into a dog so he can understand the value of being with his family so i think this

movie is perfect so teaching us all the importance of family wow wow that's a pretty thoughtful review of someone who just let people enjoy things and you can't complain about that you know wow uh beautiful yeah maybe a childless nerds don't understand the beauty of a simple santa claus turning into a dog to understand being with family their lives are misery they stand in front of the firing squad enjoying their last cigarette before the end comes um so there's i just i could identify like this condiment station as a kid i would have been like this is my i remember this yeah i'll talk about this on a podcast in 30 years these are moments this is a you know the the thing that you talk about mike like we're just wanting to have like big beats and moments you remember i think the cue has them

yes we'll be talking about these parts of this for a child and for daddy yes again we have different definitions of aggressive that's just the things that sound weird to me are different than and for daddy for child and for daddy and for daddy i'm daddy look i'm daddy okay well you're a father but i'm daddy. Look, I'm daddy, okay? Well, you're a father, but I'm daddy. We keep topping each other. The most aggressive thing said on this podcast. Let's get to this ride. Let's get a deep, deep, deep GD long.

Sorry. I'm sorry, everyone in the booth who's here. We'll try to move through this. But the, okay. Talk about these moments. Big things. And there's a big one in the pre-show yes the pre-show um is you get to you go in a little room and you watch a premiere of a new short a mickey short uh perfect picnic uh and then the song plays which is the earworm song that nothing'll hear. Nothing Can Stop Us Now. Yes.

And then some fun happens and chaos, and Goofy shows up in a train, and then a pie gets lodged into Goofy's smokestack. It's Mickey and Minnie are driving alongside Goofy in a train. They say a nice hello to each other, but then they hit a bump that is on the train track. Pluto goes flying. Pluto goes flying. Pi goes flying, goes right into goofy smokestack, starts steaming.

Whole thing blows up and the smoke goes off of the screen into the room. And this is a great thing to, well, we've just told you about it. If you might already know about it, if you go with anyone who doesn't know this beat as i got to uh with aaron she had no idea this was coming it's such a jaw drop just like whoa yeah it's a great pre-show um and it like not only so exciting that well oh and then just to say the whole thing that goofy is now he's been thrown from the train and he's hanging up on part of the screen that is still working up above the big hole that's been blown in it. Yeah.

He starts talking to the person in the room, the ride attendant, the cast member, says, do you mind helping these good people into the cartoon while I fix this here Loki motive? Like that. this is great i am a sucker for a person on screen or animatronic talks to cast member it's a nice nod to the great movie ride uh also a nod in this the ride kind of starts and finishes in a railroad barn uh i've i've found a possession of Walt Disney himself. A barn with

railroad stuff. It's a really good train ride, which really helped propel my son along through the whole thing. Just telling him, you're going to go on a bunch of trains today and one of the trains is driven by Goofy. You could see him

processing it. First of all, if it was me and I was little, I'd be like, that's not a good idea. This is going to go poorly. Mommy, let's not go. Surely the union doesn't know about this. Can Goofy show me his license? Does he take regular tests to make sure he's equipped?

One thing I've always thought about this ride, did they have to have the conversation of the term railway? They're like, we can't call this a railroad. We have actual railroads on property and people will be confused. I think this is actually an example of a title that was probably group think group thought to death. But it works. Yeah, I like it. I do like it because it's like it's not actually like Mickey and Minnie's Railway.

It is not. No, it's not correct. Yeah, Railway, why wouldn't it just be Railroad, or why wouldn't it be the name of the cartoon? It works, and I like it, but it's an example of, I think, an overthink. Okay, it can't just be Mickey, because Mickey and Minnie are together.

It's their ride, not just Mickey, even though the whole queue is Mickey. But Mickey and Minnie are together. That's their, their ride. Not just Mickey, even though the whole queue is Mickey. But Mickey and Minnie's runaway railway, it says what it is kind of. So I think I like it. I like the title a lot. I just think, I think it was like,

it's, it was constructed for a lot of reasons that way. I like that. Everyone just has jobs. Everyone has weird, goofy drives a locomotive uh pete is jack hammering daisy teaches a dance class that covers both waltz and rumba yes mickey has a red big red convertible like we we don't spend time getting to know about mickey's big red car that's true

we need to know more about that big red car. Significantly less horrific than the nightmare car that was parked in front of his house in Toontown. Is that a nightmare car? I like that car. It's just kind of weird proportions.

It kind of looks a little scary. It's fine. It's a cartoon. It's not like Mr. McFisto's car from the Batman Forever video with the hands. Oh, no. Well, we're all scared of that car. Yeah. I like Mickey's car. One of these things, like, that the hole is blown in the screen,

and then Goofy and the cast member discuss that they will let you into the cartoon, and then you walk through the screen. So that's a separate. A hole has been blown in the screen. Cool. Wait, how do I get in this ride? I go into the screen. So that's a separate a hole has been blown in the screen. Cool. Wait how do I get in this ride? I go into the screen. That's great. And it's blown out towards you but

it's still being projected on so that texture like the chaotic cutout is great. That yeah it's awesome and as a kid I would not know I'd be like amazed by it. Can I give a little minor gripe? This works better in Hollywood Studios than it does in Toontown.

Because in the reality of Toontown, you've already walked into the cartoon. You're in the cartoon already in Toontown. And now the whole thing is like, oh, my God, we're going in the cartoon. We were already in the cartoon. Things don't get cartoony until. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, minor gripe here. Well, I guess that's the turn you have to make.

Because in this version, you entered the cartoon the second you enter toontown yes so you're do you already they can't now you're going to another cartoon i see what you're saying that is interesting is the um the queue in florida is it also like posters of movies that likely would have premiered at crownman's chinese theater i don't like posters of mickey shorts from like the time period when this was like the show palace of stars of hollywood like i think that's a thing i i like that i do i do think it's tasteful and it's a nod to like the golden age of hollywood stuff that's still great yeah of course I like it. I'm 37, but I've always been 80. Robert Osborne of Podcast of the Right. Robert Osborne, look, he kept that ride.

Those last few years, Turner Classic Movies was keeping the lights on for that ride. Sure. We stan Robert Osborne. We certainly do. But yes, no, this is not a major. No kids threw a fit. We were already in the cartoon. What?

We were already there. Why are we going in it again? Doesn't make sense. Yeah, of course. We were there. If they, in cartoon world, they would just call this movie. They would just call this media, you know? Your children aren't logic police because they aren't on Twitter yet.

They're not. Yeah, right. Your children aren't logic police Because they aren't on Twitter yet Yeah right So you go through this and then you go into a very Like I would say like By the way also I don't really understand How the screen blowing up works I know that it rises up But you really gotta Depending on how much smoke there is you really can't tell

And there's also this black barricade Like what would be under a movie screen And something happens there too to, to give you passage. And I don't quite get what it is. I think something shoots down. Maybe. Some of the black goes down and the white goes up. It's one of those newer things where it's almost impossible.

Like, have you seen a clip of the Beast transforming in Japan? Yeah. I don't know what's going on there. Yeah. I think it's the same. The similar thing is on the Shanghai Pirates that a skeleton turns into Jack Sparrow and you're watching it and you're like,

I know there's a projection happening, but I don't know what. I could not in a million years think or figure out what this is. They got it. But yeah, similar thing to here where I'm like, I think something's just shooting down, but this fog and the misdirect is working so effectively.

Yeah. And then you go into kind of a generic barn, I would say, like a generic kind of barn feeling place. But it's so like warm and gentle in there. I love that room. And the music is playing. It's like the intro of the song

and it's just kind of on a loop. It's a very just pleasant melody. Any form you hear it in, it's great. Something on a loop it's a very just pleasant melody any form you hear it in it's great um something i'm gonna say about this ride i don't think i've ever called this out on a ride before stanchions good oh yeah the line separators yeah because in the first half of it you've got real like art deco it's little like cube pyramids look out for those they're functional but they're good. And then you get into Cartoon World.

They're wonderful. These big, fun, big yellow knobs that have been drawn on all crazy. They're wonderful pieces. If they started selling these, getting rid of stray ones, I'd buy a Runaway Railway stanchion at an auction. Stanchions on the Haunted Mansion are really memorable. Yes, sir. In the line, too.

I don't think they've had a good stanchion game. So, yeah. So, maybe if we start fetishizing the stanchions, that we'll put it out into Diz Twitter, and then in like 20 years, Disney will start selling them. Sure. Like eventually we'll get there where they monetize this. Oh, because like had like the the bats

on the stanchions at haunted mansion I think you get as like a wine stopper oh really or as they have been monetizing the stanchions some stanchions yeah yeah we're gonna get yelled at like they have been monetizing the stanchions you call yourself theme six

years in theme park podcast you don't know about the monetization of the stanchions? If someone's saying that phrase, they aren't capable of being as aggressive as you're being right now. That voice would not match that statement. They don't have as much tea, you're saying? You haven't even talked about the Disney 100 ears, the drippy ears that look gross.

Oh, the drippy ears. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't have time to talk about it on this episode. Not enough time. Another big moment for me in this ride, and I don't know if you guys had the same thing, but I had not really spoiled it for myself in terms of what the ride mechanism is.

I assumed that it was a railway. I'd heard that, well, that's a big moment, that the doors swing open and Goofy is, like he's talking to you from the front car. But then I really took it on faith at the beginning that I had no reason not to assume that this is a train that all moves together as one piece. Like I think I knew it was trackless, but I still thought maybe these are connected somehow,

and you could still explore wherever in the rooms. So it genuinely was a surprise to me that, oh, all of the cars being in a row like a train is made up. It's sold by the fact that they move and have slack similar to a train vehicle a real train would be and then mickey crashes into a switch goofy goes one way every car splits off goes every other which way oh my god this is not a train at all this is a trackless vehicle it's in the realm of rise of the resistance and who knows what these vehicles can do it's a a really exciting moment. Really delightful. There's like three things in there that I was just delighted by.

The swinging open of the window with Goofy. Yeah. That was really fun. The trackless ride thing. I feel like I've read reviews of rides and people go like, why is this trackless? Why does this have to be trackless?

It's not using the form at all. This very clearly pretty fun splitting apart, fun all dancing together. It's not using the form at all. This very clearly pretty fun splitting apart, fun all dancing together. It's really fun. And then another- This anti-ride, I hate that. It doesn't use the form at all. One car goes one way,

another car goes up the other way. You have different views of the- No, no, I think this is a good, or like the Efteling is a very good use of it where the rides split off and go on their own. I saw the video that pointed out that's maybe a better probably the ultimate trackless

dark ride is that the vehicles all have completely different experiences. Yeah, but it's still pretty new. This anti-rise thing is spreading and I'm stopping right here. I meant more like in general when a ride is trackless. Oh, does it use the full?

Did you say rides? Oh, I said rides. Sorry. i'm just ready to pounce i was gonna i was gonna make the point i think it's the wrong system for a rise to use right just one right system yeah interesting um the third thing uh i think the voice acting on these shorts in general but especially this ride is so great like this ride has like legitimately funny moments and yeah absolutely i there there's when mickey hits the railway switch he's like screaming like he's a real neurotic everyman in these kinds of shorts and then at the very end there's like a moment where minnie is just screaming at full volume and i was just like this is fun this is really fun they're all great and in so

many it is you know the the new mickey who i'm gonna butcher the name if i try to say it but it's that actor who's in the he's one of the new three stooges he's moe in the live action he's fantastic his mickey in general is so great but then it's not as if they recast everybody. Because it's the classic people. This ride is Lucy Taylor who's passed away since. But it is like the Minnie that it's been for most of our lives. And they just get fresh angles out of her. Everybody.

Bill Farmer, Goofy. All the people who have been doing it forever are just top of their game in this version. And Daisy's Tress McNeil. She is so great. I think they've never had an angle on Daisy besides – Daisy has always been like Minnie but duck. And now this Daisy is like – she's demented. You get into that dance studio and you're like, I don't like where this is going.

Like I am uneasy about what the plans are. I I don't like where this is going. I am uneasy about what the plans are. I heard, did you, this is a, again, too late in the podcast to start taking tangents, but I have to say this because I, when I went to see a live read of The Simpsons, courtesy of Mitch when he used to work on The Simpsons,

it was awesome to see everybody do the voices, but I was like, oh, it's Tress McNeil and she did two lines. And again, I like lit up even more than seeing almost anybody else. Even Dan Kessler. I do Homer live, which is insane, but dress McNeil,

two lines out of it. Like, like out of there, not maybe immediately, but Tress McNeil, John Lovett said he auditioned for Saturday night live with Tress McNeil. And you heard this anecdote. And Lauren said,

Oh, Tress McNeil was the heard this anecdote and Lorne said oh trust me deal was the best one too old what I'd be 37 or 38 at the time Wow no I have not heard that oh yes this is fresh information L red meat for us nerds I forget there was another woman he said he auditioned with two that I think did really well but I believe specifically Tress McNeil did the best out of anybody because there's something with Tress McNeil who we're talking about who does so many voices on The Simpsons

and she's dot on Animaniacs. All these voices, she's so funny. And sometimes you go, oh, maybe somebody's voice is just funny, but she's a growling and clearly a great performer in her own right. Has the chops, has the instincts. That made me so mad.

I think in that same time, Lynn Stewart, who is Miss Yvonne on Pee Wee, who's maybe a little older. I think it all might have been the spot that Jan Hooks got. I like Jan Hooks a lot. But to hear that story,

I was kind of mad. I was like, that's awful. I just had to wait for a millennial to create a cartoon and just lay down the like law of like the lead is tress mcneil okay the lead voice is tress mcneil i don't care what famous actor of the five famous actors you remember you want to be the lead but it's tress mcneil so yeah she's daisy now which is great yeah yeah it's even that that's like with no other choices just giving we're get we're throwing that ball to the greatest living voice actress possibly yeah probably i think sure um so great i mean we can let's we can jump around

but i it basically becomes like the the the track the the switch is flipped and now every car is going every which way it's up to mickey and minnie to try to save you and corral the train cars i think the ride does a really great job of like there's always the issue of you need to have your adventure but the characters are having their adventure and it's hard to make all those things combine and i think this and goofy is kind of his own plot although we just lose him for most of it but i i think it does this right does a great job of it's everybody's story you're part of what they're doing they're part of what you're doing um and it's and it's not doing the thing i've complained about lately where other people have put it better or more articulately, there's so much going on around you

that there's plenty of stuff to look at depending on what you want to look at. Yeah, yeah. Which is, I like that better than when you're pointed at stuff, again, except for the Transformers. Yeah. Which is, they're perfectly pointing you

at the perfect amount of information. Masterful performance end of a tear-jerking scene. Yeah. No, I think you'd never get tired of look. Because even like, yeah, just unimportant stuff whizzing by looks neat. You could just, I'm going to go on this time on this ride. I'm only staring at stuff that doesn't matter.

And I think you'd have a great time. Yes, for sure. But you're in this Old West scene that's really fun. They really start showing you the tricks. And they're trying to lasso you and struggling to do so. old west scene that's really fun they really like start showing you the tricks um and where and they're trying to lasso you and uh and and struggling to do so then you go into this carnival scene that's jaw-dropping we referred it's it's as if it's like yeah it's like there's nothing happening on the walls and then it all turns on i think what what we we are looking at for a lot

of it is just different percentages of this a lot lot of this is painted and this is permanently what it is. And it's just really bright and lit to where it looks like a cartoon. Yes. And then so seamlessly blended in our projection spots. But then you've got other rooms where it has to be the entire wall that's projected. Right. And you're also like, where are these projectors coming? Sometimes I saw a video that was slowed down that pointed out,

all right, they're up there in the ceiling hidden. But it's all short throw projectors. They can just hit from really particular angles. But still at the best resolution you've ever seen of visual images in front of you. Yes. I have a moderately priced projector that i've used in the backyard on a on a white sheet and the light is not strong stuff you gotta love those lumens it's gotta be dark and i got a higher lumen amount of lumens than the like cheapest

projectors but still it's got to be pretty dark for that. So imagining like a fairly dark room projecting, that just has to be the most. How many lumens must it take? Next time I go on this thing, I'm going to find a cast member and go like, hey, pretty good ride you got here. How many lumens? Will Jim and Len look into how many lumens

each projector has? Please, I'm begging them. The lumen count guys. I mean, if they could just hit up all the AMCs in the LA Burbank area too like some of those are you want Jim and Len to go investigate the AMC Burbank? I mean it would be great

I a few times have been like I think we know the answer I kind of want to go talk to someone Lumens are low the 16 the 16 I think is actually operating pretty well sure and there's obviously the higher resolution theaters that have more lumens.

And recliners. Right, but you're saying the 6 and the 8 have bad lumens. Oh, the 6 and the 8 have pretty bad lumens. Yeah, they try to trick you in those with the recliner, and then you're like, what? I am squinting. Another thing. You know what else doesn't have recliners?

Forever Dog Studios. We're here sitting upright, stressing our backs. We want to be able to do this thing all the way. Yeah, we want to recline. If we're going to do a podcast for three hours talking about Mickey and Minnie's runaway railway, then. We're racing now. Well, what's just important stuff to get? Okay, another jaw dropper to me.

Love this sequence. You end up in like a Hawaiian lagoon with cliffs and waterfalls. Here's a big rock wall. You watch many and many fly into a plant. The plant rustles. Oh, yeah. And they poke out of it. They want to help you, but then you're careening.

They warn you about a waterfall, right? Exactly when you're going to go down the waterfall. Every car goes into a little pod. You're all in your own little simulator dome where you like great fun little waterfall sequence then you come out you turn around you are now underwater but you were looking at the same room you entered yeah it is now projected 100 different but it's all the same set pieces and they all look like you know that that plant that mickey and minnie flew into is now kelp and the like the cliff walls are now underwater rocks it's so like and it takes you a second to like wait a minute and how'd they do that so quickly is that the same wall well it's got to be because there's only one

way to go here um it's i'm blown away for a second because they it's it sort of goes into a um that might be because you go off a waterfall and it's sort of a very familiar theme park trick of like it makes you feel like you're shooting far down but really you're just seeing a video or whatever um and that part i remember being like oh oh kids will enjoy this part this part doesn't do so much for a sophisticated writer like myself and then it turns around and the whole room's different i go okay well that's now we were in a little box and now we're okay you got me the giant different rooms are um really something i like when you come around you come out of something and there's just

a city there's just a full city scene happening yeah it's so busy like it looks like the horizon goes forever tons of cars racing by yeah and then you go into a factory and mickey gets stuck i always liked when characters got stuck in the gears and the machines and stuff i always liked that as a kid yeah still holds up um i do have a question coming out of that scene because when i was trying to watch videos of them back to back is there kind of like a weird dark tunnel at the disneyland version like it seemed like in the florida version you come out of the factory and you're right at that picnic ending that's correct yeah yeah they they somehow it ends different the room is flipped like like

okay mini are on the left in one version on the right and the other okay yeah they i think the unload is different so they have to like get you to some and they i think they added animation of goofy to cover it i see so yeah that is that makes sense yeah yeah um that's a thing i really like and they they really uh treaded the line very carefully here. The big-headed Mickey and Minnie that are three-dimensional but have projections on it that you see in the car at the beginning, you see at the picnic at the end. I think they're cute. I think those are great. And those could have also looked very, you know, uncanny valley, just like big-head Mickey. That's true. That could have been horrifying if they know uncanny valley just like big head Mickey you know

that could have been horrifying if they didn't do it right but I think it navigates the two dimension to two and a half dimension three dimension pretty well yeah for most of this ride completely the room the dancing room with Daisy I really like great

that's what that's where I think you it's fun just to see what the cars can do what the ride vehicle can do i know that these ride vehicles are like they're they're a little bit updated i think technology from like poos honey hut and ratatouille and i think they can move faster than those can actually and maybe even rise i'm not sure if that's the same one um but almost i would i almost wish there was like another room like the daisy room in it but that's kind of a gripe but it room like the Daisy room in it. But that's kind of a gripe.

But it's like I don't know. It's just a small room. It's the intimacy, I think. But like it's almost like it's fun to have kind of that variation where all of a sudden now you're in a small room and you're doing kind of fun stuff. Just scale wise, it's fun to go back and forth between the two. And you pause. You like we're going to. Yes.

And you got to pause. Facing a wall. And it's not about moving forward and getting to the next thing. Yeah. And some of it some of it I think if you have never been on like trackless ride, if you've never been on like Pooh's Honey Hut or something. The first time we went on that ride, it blew my mind in the same way you're talking about where like the car splits apart and you can like all these different tricks because they're very similar to some of the stuff they do on that poo ride so like if you're going on for the first time and you've gone on the traditional dark rides all this stuff is so cool um and yeah i don't know there's two parts two thoughts i'm losing my mind a little bit i still haven't caught

up on sleep i can't imagine you yeah whatever My eye is twitching right now, honestly. The right one. I've been twitching too. What's happening? It's usually lack of sleep or I think sometimes if you're over-caffeinated, which I am not today. No, I'm not either. I'm sleeping great too. I don't know. Something else.

My eye just twitches when I'm tired. Oh no. And the switch of the dance, like now we've established waltz and then all of a sudden conga, which is much more jerky and crazy. It's almost like all these flowers come out of nowhere in the room.

So fun. What a delightful, you're laughing at that. Just from a writing perspective, that reminded me of such like an old Mickey or old Looney Tunes gag. Just the mention of waltz in Congo back to back. I was like,

I feel like that was always a thing that characters would get up into antics where they would end up dancing a very funny dance that as a child, I'm like, I don't really know what these things are, but it's funny when Bugs Bunny does it, you know, like a machine would make somebody do it. Like now.

Oh yeah. Manipulating a character and they don't want to be. Yeah. Yeah. A Beetlejuice is kind of like that. does it you know like a machine would make somebody do it like now oh yeah manipulating a character and they don't want to be yeah yeah beetlejuice is kind of like that wasn't there a simpsons where he's watching a movie or something where like some kid a college kid shoots people oh with a ray that yeah yeah yes yeah yeah and then they're all dancing against their will that's fun that's when the daisy's making you do that yeah she's forcing a dance on all these people sure really fun um and then that final scene that park at the end after the factory is another incredible like oh yeah at all in the in a like in a second it becomes

a different type of from chaotic scary factory with something called the Smasher to a serene park. One set piece moves down, something else rises up, and it goes from being like a, I don't know, just some industrial piece to a merry-go-round. It's lovely.

And then that final scene is just oddly gentle and serene for having come out of a really hectic ride. And lasts a while too, which is almost, it's similar to the, what they did to the snow white ride, even though there's a lot less time on that ride,

but the end of, did you, have you been on it yet? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I love the ending of it now. And it's another thing where they like give you a nice,

like calm, fun, peaceful, not even fun. I'll say just calm and nice. Yeah. And it's, that's the way out of it. And and not all rides need to be that way but it's fun it's nice to see that on some of them and this one really feels like you're in like living the like perfect happy ending of all the cartoons yeah i think because the week i was down there rat Ratatouille had just opened in Florida. So doing this in Ratatouille back to back,

obviously this one much more advanced, but tonally this is more joyful and goofy. And Ratatouille is just kind of like, oh, this is a nice serene is probably the right word. A nice French, like you feel like you're in Paris. And there's a little bit of antics because you're running under all the kitchen appliances and stuff but

it's like oh a nice pleasant vibe that lasts a little bit you know um so it's all you know we we have been shitting on disney recently but it's just because we want more of that we want as many of these as possible because god knows they got it these are like great rides recently i mean this yeah this is one of the best things in in any of these parks and it's from the last three years um i just want more that's all yeah they're they're so great they have such talent there i think it's a cycle they get into a lot where they get like a big ride out like a runaway railway or radiator springs racers and then for a few years after that they just coast on like hey there is a new rice dish at the food festival sheds like uh they just coast on that or merchandise and stuff or like i i understand that they have to

pay off this right i know that like they want to try and make a little money before they do the next big ride, but we certainly were conditioned to expect big rides a lot faster growing up in the 90s, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and you get them at Universal more so lately. It just depends on who's got that big pile of money. Maybe it won't be Disney again for a while,

but I'm glad when they get it. They have the pile. Pay the cast members whatever they're at, like the dollar more they're asking for and build some rides. Truly, it would not take much out of the bottom line if they did just those two things.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because look, these rides are exciting. We're excited. This has been very positive. If I could close out with one thing. Jordan, I have a little video of this is a special, a clip from a special of people who were pretty excited about the ride. This is an interview with Charita Carter, who's doing the Princess and the Frog, the Spice Mountain redo. But some Disney Channel folks, including somebody named Milo, I think they're all from the movie Zombies.

And they came to check out this ride. And I just really like, for it being this very earnest cartoon situation, like who they paired, like the vibe of this guy compared to the vibe of the ride. Do we have that video, Jordan? This is the very first scene in our attraction. This is where Mickey and Minnie are getting together to go on the perfect picnic. Aww.

We're very proud of it. And I can tell you, this is just the beginning. Okay. I hear there's a piece of Disney history on the ride. There sure is. What? And I'd love to show you. Come with me. Stop. Sherita, Sherita.

Yo. So with me. Stop. Sherita. Sherita. Yo. So you know. That's pretty much. And it's a great place to have a picnic. Okay. I'm listening. All right. They should have had Kyle's character from Smash do this.

Yeah. Just skip and trade more. Yeah. That feels very much very much of a piece with like disney adventures pairing like look john malkovich is on the cover and he's hanging out with stitch you because didn't get the movie at all um so yeah hey i'm i'm as excited as cool milo that was the name of that clip the i named the file cool milo and uh um you know for for anybody from little kids all the way up to the coolest of Milo's,

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