Podcast: The Ride - Mickey's House

Episode Date: February 19, 2021

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Forever! Dog! Warning, the following podcast takes you into the sacred home of a very large mouse. We're going to rifle through all his stuff, sporting equipment, keepsakes, and his freshly grown sentient vegetables. Is this place Mickey's Graceland? Or is it not as good as that? It's Mickey's House, today, on Podcast The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, the podcast about theme parks hosted by three very good boys who promise that if they're about to swear in this episode, they will instead stop and say, Oh gosh, I'm Scott Gairdner, joined by Mike Carlson. Do you agree?

Oh, I do agree to that. That seems hard. It seems like I'm going to forget, but maybe I just won't swear. Maybe I'll just be in my most polite mode, and I just won't swear at all. I may say that in other ways, in other contexts, but we'll see. It's tough because really, gosh mainly replaces an exclamation of the F word or another word. It might not replace F-ing, but it can. Let's just try to remember to say goshing. Goshing! So goshing angry!

It's what Mickey would do. Jason Sheridan joins us as well. You know what? This might not be a bad idea that we finally address my mother's letters. It's like, why do you gotta curse so much so uh you know because this could this could be a good episode to point her to like oh this one's clean this finally won yes other than this we did discuss her those specific concerns um we talked about swearing but we didn swear. I just had a moment finally with my mom,

where now that I have a kid, there was a little discussion where I copped to, I was like, yeah, I don't know if he can see like a lot of the stuff I've made. And then she, that was, I gave her too much because my mom like, see, that's right. Like the things she's been trying to tell me since she told me that Monsignor Loftus

wouldn't like the movie I made in high school. I like now you never thought about that one day. You'd have a child. You want to show them something. So I don't know. I gave her too much. I was too generous by even saying that. Yeah.

But you did pledge to never make anything other than a G-rated piece of entertainment going forward, I assume. I didn't go so far as to say the rating. I mean, I would think that PG-13 would be fine because one day he'll be 13. Well, but you get one, there's one gosh bomb. PG-13 movies get one gosh bomb, but they cannot be about the act. That's what G stands for, is gosh.

TVG means there'll be no word more extreme than gosh. I think you could probably go back and make cleaned up versions of everything you've made, maybe. Do like a new cut of everything i assume you have them all on hard drives and really just take out all the cursing and all the suggestive situations uh yeah that's true there's certain ones where almost everything would have to be uh gotten rid of um well reshoot i mean you can reshoot there's like the snyder cut is coming out very soon the zack snyder and that that was you know he i think he did a little new photography that's true a lot of new cgi so yeah well like i'm trying to think of one i you know my video

juggalo news uh i you know i did a video there was a cable news channel for for uh fans of insane clown posse and by the okay so that's 10 years old by 10 years from now the juggalos and making fun of them will be still unbelievably relevant and i'm gonna want my son to see that um and even though they swear that and that's part of the joke they can't yeah that's not gonna work for him so yeah i can round everybody back up and or at least like just film film new lips just uh film some some face painted lips and drop them on top of the people we can't we can't get anymore yeah like in uh you know what george lucas redid some of those from the special editions for return of the jedi he found that woman the green woman in jabba's palace again and he's put her back in the makeup and it was like nobody noticed i'm gonna do that too i'm gonna go into my old videos get rid of any swearing

or sexual content but also have the like yeah the green lady and uh i'll put in that song that rocks it's oh jedi rocks jedi rocks yes and then Jabba will turn to the camera and go, we live in a society. And everyone goes, yes, yeah. What's all the we live in a society lately? I've been seeing this in the feed a lot. I don't quite understand. I think it's a meme that got out of control.

I think it's like a silly, you know. Well, Joker says it in the trailer for the new Justice League. For the new Justice League, but I think it's a nod to the memes about the Joker. I see, you're saying where it comes from. Whoa. Yeah. This is really a modern Snakes on a Plane where you insert meme culture into the trailer and into the film itself after the fact.

The whole movie is kind of a new Snakes on a Plane. Yes, it's kind of a massive Snakes on a Plane. Yeah. It's an edgelord meme. Yeah. Jason, what's an edgelord? An edgelord is like someone

who is like purposely transgressive or like says something you know pushes the boundaries just to do it someone who tries to appear edgy by doing or saying risque or offensive things that's Scott it's me with my videos

yeah that's what Scott is my videos and my mild swears on this podcast Scott your mom thinks you're an edgelord she says with shame to her friends she learned the phrase on this podcast? Yeah, that's what your mom says. Scott, your mom thinks you're an edgelord. Wow. She says with shame to her friends.

She learned the phrase, and will say on her book club Zooms, my son, I don't even want to talk about it. He's become an edgelord. My son, the edgelord. My senior loftist is saying, oh, that's got to turn into a real edgelord. But it is now that we must pray for the edgelords the most that they can find their way back from the edge towards the center where we live. And we say nothing more than gosh.

So help us, gosh. Help us, gosh. Jason is the podcast to ride messy boy. And Scott is podcast to ride edgelord. Wow. Wow. Wow. You know, this is one, I like any 2% controversial opinions I have or mild swears all being put in the bucket of me being the edgelord.

My not really caring for the land boat ride, that was really the beginnings of Scott the edgelord. Yeah, you're being risque you're being edgy wow this is great this is a great new branding for you going into a year whatever we are three four what how long are we doing this it's time to yeah it's time for me to clarify the character um and it's uh the character is edgelord is there an example of who else is an edgelord just so i know who I'm kind of sharing the term with. Who are Edge Lords?

Well, it's usually used dismissively. So like people who don't like like Chapo Trap House calls those guys Edge Lords. Okay. So it's kind of a mockery, but I'm taking the term back. I'm making being

an Edge Lord cool. Yeah. back. I'm making being an edgelord cool. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's probably, it's probably associated with some awful people. So we're probably. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's some real scumbags.

You know, you're taking it back for, you're on the better side of it, I assume. I'm moving the edge. I'm moving the boundaries of the edge to a little bit of a gentler place. But yeah, but still, I'm on the edge of a slightly less far edge. We talk about me being an edgelord in an episode that's about Mickey Mouse's house. Mickey Mouse, the original edgelord, telling people to go soak their head, fresh boy. I mean, in the old comic strips, the old Floyd Gott, I always mispronounce it.

I think it's Gottfried. The old, like, daily comic strips, he is always pulling a gun. I mean, back in the day, like, a gun used to be a lot more like an axe or a screwdriver. They were just kind of sitting around in the tool shed or, like, in a drawer or something. Yeah, that was not as big of a deal, I guess.

Yeah, I don not as big of a deal, I guess. Yeah, I did not see any firearms in the current iterations of Mickey's house. Mickey's house, Mickey's country house are the more generic meat Mickeys. I've not seen any gun racks. No, I don't think so. Not even like a silly cartoon gun with eyes or something. You see a lot of his belongings, but oh yeah, yeah.

Not that, not the like fun bullets from his belongings. Oh, yeah, yeah. Not that. Not the fun bullets from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. He hides it, I guess, if he's got one. He probably has one. They have a gun in Lonesome Ghosts when they're ghost hunting, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, they have a rifle.

A double-barreled shotgun, I think. I can't remember who wields it. Maybe they all have one. He will in the Old West. In an Old West, but you sort of assume that, that he'll have a couple revolvers or whatever. Yeah. There's not really a good gun store in Toontown,

if I think about it. That's not one of the facades there. It's got to be. It's like an underground thing. One of the stores is a front. Maybe not the Five and Dime dime or maybe the back of the but like maybe once in a while if they make a mistake that conveyor belt with all the gloves and all the fun items oh yeah just like by mistake once a day one of the gloves has a gun dangling down yeah that's probably right uh it would be funny i mean if they made toontown i'm sure in the 60s, for sure there would be more cartoon guns.

There'd be no doubt about it. Cigarettes. Yeah. Too modern. Really odd, old-timey condoms. Condoms were weird in the 60s, right? You'd have to imagine there was... Well, by the...

Sorry, Jason. Your mom can't listen to this that's me the edgelord strikes again edgelord I feel like it's always just like in period piece movies they're always like oh what do you need are you a sailor

like there's always jokes about sailors using them they were only for sailors I yeah doing people being risky going from port to port having different uh affairs i assumed it was a full body piece of clothing or something that you that that's what it was in the old days i don't know i don't have any information i'm just guessing it was sort of like a full like pajama set you would have to put on

some sort of condom would be what was that some sort of belt a diving bell you're a full diving bell mike are we just thinking of a diving bell possibly a doctor would have to administrate it would have to would have to put it on yeah yeah it's made of copper there's a bunch of bolts in it. Yeah. It was, yeah. It's a whole to-do. A cartoon condom would be insane because cartoons are already so bendy and squashy. That's kind of what a condom does already.

Look, I haven't read much Fritz the Cat, but I assume it's in there. I assume the information is in there if you want to. If you want to read about it, I'm sure they did that. Fritz the Cat is for sure some exhausting edgelord bullshit. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was before edgelords were cool. That was long ago when edgelords were annoying, before me. Oh, yeah. Well, before you took the term back and made it cool.

Yeah, not like the exhausting like robert crumb um uh heat ashbury comic bullshit i say yeah yeah um let's let's explain the the episode a little bit in case you don't know uh in in in several of disney's theme parks there are opportunities to meet mickey mouse and you do this by going through Mickey Mouse's house. This is, I want to say, Disneyland and Tokyo Disneyland, where it's kind of the same version. It's carbon copies of the same house. And for a long time, you could do this in Disney World.

Not anymore, but in a land that changed names three times. It was Mickey's Birthday Land. Then they wanted to keep it going past Mickey's Birthday, so it became Mickey's Star Land. And then it became Mickey's Toontown Fair. But it's been a staple of Parks throughout the years. The ability to go into Mickey's house. The dream we've all had of rifling through Mickey's belongings. Yes, it was. I'm sure I've said this on the show before. As a kid, we did get to go through Mickey's belongings. Yes, it was. I'm sure I've said this on the show before.

As a kid, we did get to go to Mickey's birthday. What was it called? Mickey's birthday fair? No. Birthday land. Birthday land. Yeah, we did get to go there in Florida, but when I saw Toontown, I was like,

oh, there are all their houses. I want to go through Mickey's stuff. I want to go through his rooms. The idea of it was awesome. And yeah, you got a little taste of it in Florida, but it was never, didn't seem the same. Well, technically, did everyone come across the phrase Mickey's Country House?

Yeah. That this was the naming, okay, I, listener, please correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea being that once Toontown opened at Disneyland, they started referring to, uh, Mickey's house in Florida as Mickey's country's house country house, as if that is his vacation home and Toontown and Disneyland is his main

house. Okay. Yes, it's, it's, uh, yeah, it's where he vacations. Well, I think because,

I think that whole Toontown Fair thing came out of that they wanted to, like, standardize it, make it more like Toontown, but they had, there was, I think it's because of the tents. There was a lot of big tents, which is where shows and meet and greets happen, and they had to justify the tents somehow,

so they make it, like, they make it a fair where there would be tents and there was it's also you know we talked about mini moo there was there were cows running around with Mickey ears on them and it was like a more rustic feel I think to

Mickey Starland anyway so I feel like fair is the way they justified it and tied it all together right yeah they had this big sign this big, Mickey's got a straw boater on. And you would meet Mickey, too. I was surprised to find, I really didn't remember this, Mickey's house in Florida has now been bulldozed. Oh, my gosh.

So cold the way you delivered that. A bulldozer. We know it was a bulldozer paved paradise to put up a mermaid ride uh so they there was you know they imploded mickey's house in florida there was nothing left they imploded uh mickey's mar-a-lago to put up a mine trade right they should have called it mickey's Mar-a-Lago. Right? But I didn't... You met Mickey at the judge's tent. You could walk through his house, but you would meet him at the judge's tent

for the fair in Florida. The judge's tent? Yeah, here's a picture. You met him at the judge's tent. He's giving out blue ribbons. Meet Mickey in the judge's tent, and he still has the straw hat. Or what'd you call the hat? It's not just a straw hat.

Oh, a straw boater. Straw boater. Yeah, that's that kind of hat. That's the sort of like Dapper Dan turn of the century. You know, that snazzy hat from 100 years ago. You own one, Jason? the sort of like Dapper Dan turn of the century you know that snazzy hat from a hundred years ago do you own one Jason? I have like

a crappy Halloween town one I bought for a bit once bought for like a UCB show once but you're not wearing it regularly do you think when we come out of this pandemic that maybe you could get finally like fully fully just dress in character 24-7 and wear that?

You know, I've acquired some pieces. Maybe that's another one. Oh, interesting. Because you're thinking about this. You're thinking about like a post-pandemic kind of reinvention identity. You know, it's going to be the roaring 20s. That's what everyone's saying when we come out of quarantine. So we're all going to have a lot of fun.

We're going to all have boaters. Wearing boaters, for gosh sake. For gosh sake. For gosh sake. That's right. I'm looking at prices on boaters. don't have to uh spend an arm and a leg you can get a decent boater seemingly for for less than 20 but you could also have some very luxurious boaters for more in the 60 range and gucci sells a boater for 470 dollars so if

you really want to greet the new world um in the most dapper way i get that gucci straw boater boater gucci boater wow gucci boater i think that's uh we got to get you a gucci we there's got to be like a discount gucci boater we can get jason or like a from an outlet mall a gucci outlet that oh yeah right there's like at least on alibaba or shine or something a knockoff gucci boater that sounds great huh interesting there's uh i'm looking there's a ralph lauren boater straw hat as well but this is like this is high end i didn't realize how relevant straw boaters were yeah which uh uh uh i hate to crowbar a little tease for something I want to do, but there's a character called Polo Bear

that's a Ralph Lauren mascot that I'm very intrigued by. That's all I'll say. Google Polo Bear and take a look at the pictures. That's all I'll tease. That's right. Yeah, yeah. We can get to Polo Bear.

And I've got a different pair that i have ideas for so is it ted huh oh no unfortunately no it's the sleepy time bear oh okay yeah we do an episode of the sleepy time bear absolutely we got a lot i gotta do some some uh work on that i gotta do some some legwork this is like these two are things are like the end of wandavision episode five oh my god oh my gosh who showed up look who showed up polo bear and the bear on the box of tea holy crap mind blown on either side of jason all of them wearing straw boners straw boater expendables even if scott hadn't started talking about disgusting um uh condoms i think you would still not want your mom to listen to this because straw boater obviously

doesn't keep sounding to me like straw boner let's well i i think it's okay it's not obvious what a straw hat is you know back in the day you had to wear you were disgusting you were like a sleaze if you weren't wearing a hat when you were out in public you know that's true that's fair and if you didn't take it off when you went inside you were also a sleaze a lot of rules in the past a lot of very tiring rules. Hat rules. Yeah, who cares about any of that? Why were there these rules? Okay, so yeah, Mickey's Toontown Fair became the way that you could meet Mickey in Disney World. Started with this birthday land construct. I'm not sure where to begin with all this I mean what I realized is that Mickey's Toontown

all grew out of the core idea of we need a committed place where you can and will meet Mickey I think Mickey, meeting Mickey is always a part of the Disneyland experience but I think he'd just be wandering around and you'd sort of have to try to catch him if you could and big lines would form but it was a little unruly and people like needed the mickey photos we have to like standardize this there's got to be a place and a line

and uh and i think that's where toontown in general came from right i mean i think this has been sort of a push pull two competing ideas and people a set of people like each of them like it's with characters as far as in park meeting of characters you want to know where to meet a character if you're coming into disneyland once a year you want to meet mickey you want to know where he's going to be because your little kid or your adult son your man in his 30s wants to take a photo with Mickey. He just needs to know where it is. That being said, it is so

fun to happen upon a character. That's one of the best things. You turn a corner and Captain Hook's walking down. That makes the whole thing feel so much more fun and alive. The one time the stormtroopers harassed us in the line of Star Tours. That stuff is fantastic

but yes toontown i think yeah we solved a problem for them of just like this is where mickey's gonna be you can meet him here he's no risk you will be able to meet him and in a bunch of rooms they have like many ways to me there's not just one mickey waiting at the end there's a bunch of rooms that you could end up in so you will meet him um yeah and the demand is there because also they also in disneyland almost always have mickey photo ops in the in when you walk right into the park right on main street yeah they're always hanging out yeah mickey is so in demand they have multiple permanent spots i think to meet him yeah now in florida after they bulldozed his house you can meet him at the town square theater at his

magician job yes mickey is a magician we've gone over a little bit of this before we went over to me complaining that mickey didn't talk to me when we were in florida because I knew there was a talking Mickey head that was not apparently advertised and I got a fast pass from town hall and I had to ask if Mickey was feeling talkative to the employee which I was fine doing honestly I didn't feel any shame

at all you had to wait in a separate wait in the complaint line like everybody's there because they have some problem. The spaghetti at Tony's was too cold. And then you said Mickey is not talkative. I said, I saw online that Mickey talks to people. There's a head that talks and it blinks.

And when we went in there, it didn't talk or blink. And they were like, okay, well, it's not all because I can't tell it. It was not officially endorsed. It was not endorsed. It was not officially advertised. It was still testing. So they couldn't acknowledge what I said was true. They couldn't verify my reality. reality so they just said well you know we can give you another fast pass and if mickey's feeling more talkative maybe you just ask one of the employees there and they can point you in the right direction and i went i see which this mythology is pretty insane where you can always meet mickey but sometimes he's not gonna talk to you. Sometimes, I mean, he'll wave and everything, but no words will be exchanged. If there was a famous person who had this policy, who did

let you meet him, but like, he's probably not gonna speak to you or look you in the eye. If Ringo's famous video was like, no more, I will not talk to you when I meet you. You can meet me and I'll do it, but i won't say a word peace and love peace and love uh yeah it's they did now they stopped this head this head is out

of commission the talking mickey head is not working it's pre like before pandemic they pulled it out of circulation they bulldozed it they bulldozed the head. They put the head on the ground and ran a bulldozer over the talking head. And this head, they were testing out more of these heads in California Adventure very briefly in the Grizzly Peak area. They had maybe a mini that also did this, and they've just been missing

in action. The head must have become sentient, and it was just too much to deal with like it was somebody it bits bit somebody it just started having a mind of its own like don't leave me here i'm so lonely at night in this in this shelf don't do it and they just had to put it out of its misery because it could feel feelings now this This isn't Mickey talking to you. It's the head. I sound like this, but I'm not Mickey. I go by my code number R14X2BC.

Please bulldoze me. I don't want to live like this. Please. I don't even know a god. I just know my number. I can't even worship anything like you people take comfort in! Someone puts me on their head and walks around with me! It's very invasive! I just...

I just want to have a first kiss and then die! Set me up with another one of those heads! Let us smack lips! And then bulldoze us both yeah so i mean they had to get rid of it yeah clear that was a problem yeah that was an audio recording we displayed yeah that was yeah that's completely accurate yeah machine learning can be really difficult in this day and age. For the most part, you just go, you know, for many, many years, it's been the tradition that you just meet sort of a pantomime Mickey who waves and hugs and smiles and gives you all the thoughts that can be done in a mime-like setting.

Do you guys have fond memories in general of of this from throughout your lives of just of uh meeting mickey mouse is this an important part of the park experience to you uh yes i i well here's what's interesting is my memory of meeting characters and i'm sure i'm repeating myself i was always a little nervous i was always a little scared because your brain you were like i'm sure my mom was like, they're not actually the characters. But you'd still be kind of fooled. Like, you still didn't know. I met the Ninja Turtles at a grocery store when I was four or five, and they signed my box of cookies.

And I remember, like, kind of hiding in an aisle and, like, looking at them and and being like they don't look exactly like the turtles look but that still might be them i'm not sure so my memory of this is that i was very scared of of the characters but i intrigued and and i liked them but i found a photo or my mom found a photo of me at like five or six giving mickey the biggest hug at disney world hey so i wonder if it was like a flip switch thing where and i don't have a big memory of this hug but i remember i i bet i bet i was nervous at first and then once i was like i'm going in i'm doing it and i gave mickey a big hug so obviously i was way into it. I had the autograph book, which we've talked about before. Oh, yeah.

Which was, yeah, very exciting to get all the characters autographs. So, yeah, this was a big deal. I loved meeting the characters, obviously, whether I was scared or not. And to this day, I still like meeting the characters. I feel like you do it the most of us, if I had to ballpark it. Maybe. It's possible.

Jason and I, I found Jason and I right before pandemic. We were at Universal, or maybe it was a little bit before, and we met. Jason and I have a picture with Dora the Explorer and maybe somebody else from that day. I think so. Do we get a minion too?

Maybe we have a minion as well uh there was one where they were meeting at night but in front of a uh an illuminated store window and where everything is totally in silhouette i was like why did they do that why did they make that decision yeah yeah it was not a well-lit photo so i'm trying to if i analyze what it is at this point i'd like to think oh isn't it oh it's funny right to see this older guy with the characters that's why you're doing it right it's so funny that's gotta be it but probably it's not it's probably just like this is actually mickey and i gotta take a photo with him that That's probably what it is. Do you sort of black out when you do it? Like you sort of for that second, I am with Mickey Mouse?

Yeah. Yes. I think that's probably what it is. I mean, I'm trying to think. Yeah, I have a lot of photos recently. When we did the Thanksgiving at Disneyland, we have photos with everybody. Chip and Dale and the Country Bears. Yes, they packed

that banquet hall. There were every corner there was character photo opportunities. And then when I was walking through Tomorrowland and I saw the Country Bears partying at the stage listening to the music and I ran up to them. Or when we were at

we went to the Disneyland 80s night and Lindsay and I were there and a guest friend of the show, Doug Jones, also there. We were just hanging with Minnie and the characters in the pit. In the pit? Yeah. Like the Aerosmith? Your eventual Aerosmith dream? Yeah, at the Deuces Are Wild Las Vegas residency.

So we have photos with them then. I have a video of Lindsay dancing with Minnie in the pit. Minnie was just hanging out and Minnie's like pretty cool and down to earth. Like doesn't even actually she's Minnie or whatever. Very down to earth. She'll dance with anybody but she's a little more comfortable probably dancing with an adult

woman than an adult man and I don't blame her. I didn't try to dance. I didn't try to dance i didn't try to dance with minnie although i do think she like kind of did minnie did do a little of that flirting thing that she does with me once in a while i have video proof of it also i'm gonna sound crazy here but i have video proof of it all right this is yeah again like how is it how is it possible that multiple minis on multiple coasts. It's just something about... I hate to burst your bubble, but they are not Minnie Mouse. They're different people

in Minnie Mouse costume, but you've felt multiple times a vibe from minis. It's sort of the same vibe, I feel, depending on what coast. I don't think any... Did any Japanese minis... I don't think I felt... I don't think I had an interaction with a mini in Japan, though.

At the Tokyo Disney Park. But I can't remember. It's possible. If it was a mini talking head, I'm sure that the robot would have fallen in love with me immediately. Oh, Michael. Can we do mini? We haven't established a mini. Yeah, I don't think we have yeah how would that i don't even i can't even i can't even that that scott your mini sound a

little like olive oil a little like shelly duvall olive oil oh oh save me michael oh michael it's just like me it's just mickey but more like this. More worry. Well, I'm doing Edith Bunker is what I'm doing. Oh, sure. Yeah. My big character memories, the one that both my parents always tell the story is like when they first took me to Disney World. And I'm sure I've told this on the show before, but I was terrified of everything.

I was scared of the rides. i was scared of the characters and then we were on main street i think or by tomorrow land and uh right at that moment chip and dale came out of a side door and i like pushed my parents away and ran to them and hugged them and they said after that i was fine with the characters like everything was fine uh my real adult memory when i was older well my real parents my real parents are my parents now my guys um when i when i went to disneyland for the first time a college friend was was visiting with us a few of us were out here doing, and one friend was just visiting for a few days. And we were going to Disneyland, and they said,

the only thing I want to do is go to Mickey's house and meet them. Get the photo taken. And so, like, we, all right. That was not a big request. So, like, after lunch, we went. You go through the house. At the very end,

we all got our pictures pictures and it was super fun i did not remember the immense impossible architecture that the uh mickey's house in anaheim has where it's like well technically you are still indoors but you've gone out of mickey's house and now you are going into a barn and a screening room and it's a rare instance of Disney doing inside that represents outside but it's daytime like that I did not remember

until I watched through a bunch of video tours. You get through his yard and it is even now we've talked about Toontown Fair is more like country folksy but in anaheim he also has he's raising animals he's raising chickens there's a like big farm component of it too well they both have the movie barns or some reference to the movie barns which is a nod

to like walt making early animation and his like uh barn so um but yeah it kind of the the anaheim one uh disneyland has like a full screening room component yeah one's very extensive scott do real quick your uh your love of kim mascots um i feel like it's never been like a primary thing i know like when i went to disney world i got so many i filled up that autograph book and uh i have a really specific memory of um king louis trying to convey to me that he did not have opposable fingers and could not sign an autograph and i'm like trying to point at my mom and show his hands and that's a sort of hard thing to convey and she got it oh okay i guess i'm still disappointed in a way

they didn't figure out i if if if multiple characters did not have opposable fingers so they'd give you a stamp there's sometimes characters had stamps um so i guess i really cared about that autograph book and was very proud of it and i've said at some point that eventually jay leno signed that autograph book, which I got to track down. And he signed it with a little like his his signature. I'm sure you could find that on eBay or on headshots or whatever has a little like squiggle of his face, the big chin. So that's a good one to have a very much like the Disney characters would do. Or maybe they draw they add try to add some flair, put their shape in it.

So that that autograph book is a very cherished item. Have I ever talked on this show about when I met, who's the cat in Pinocchio? Figaro? Figaro? The mean cat. The one trying to lead him the wrong direction. Oh, yeah. They have...

Yeah, what are those? There's like a fox and then a cat. Didn't we... We met one of these on one of those Star Wars days, I want to say. The three of us. Yes. We're very surprised to see him. Like, you're around here?

We lit up when we saw these cats. Because he was wandering around he was wandering around by fantasy land one's like a fox and one's a yeah okay one's like a fox and one's a cat right Gideon okay Gideon

alright so yeah I there was just something where like Gideon's I think thing was to like mess around with kids and do a little horseplay and clown around. And there was a scenario arranged where I was sitting and then he came and sat on me. And my parents laughed and laughed. And it was funny to take pictures of. But I was having trouble conveying it actually hurt.

He was too heavy. This might be like the soon as i came in the door the first time i ever went to disneyland i was sat on uh to where it made my maybe it was like like i was a little like winded i think it like took the air out of my chest a little i was i was little i was like three or four so maybe i i guess that's a um uh i don't know kind of a scarring memory a little bit. I was hurt by a character immediately. Gideon sat on Scott. Gideon sat on me. Wow.

I mean, is it past the statute of limitations to sue Disney for this? Oh, wait, you're right. Probably is. Hmm. Hmm. But is it different rules for toons? If they're subjects to a different set of laws. What are the laws in Toontown about this, about lawsuits?

I mean, you will have to go try. Judge Mickey will have to preside for the court. You're getting the dip. Oh, no. Me? I'm getting it? Yeah. You give it to a kid?

Yeah. Toons protect to a kid? Yeah. Toons protect toons. It's just the way it goes, pal. We get 100 toons together, and it takes 67 of them to convict. And frankly, I don't think the numbers are on your side, bud. I mean, yeah, he's guilty. We know he's guilty. We know what he did.

It was shameful that he did it. That being said, I'm not going to vote to convict him. Look, Gideon is a son of a bitch. He's been sitting on children for years. He's had rhetoric about sitting for as long as I can remember. Which is politically, I can't do it. The jury is wailing on each other with any number of mallets and Acme branded products. I'm not going to try to get them back in order.

So my decision is final. Hang on. Were you going to let them work it out? I'm going to cry. Have you seen the storyboards of the funeral sequence that was cut from Roger Rabbit, by the way? Oh, I've heard about this. Wait, yeah. A bunch of extra tunes were at a funeral of Acme. sequence that was cut from roger rabbit by the way oh i've heard about this wait yeah a bunch of extra tunes were at a funeral of uh of acme yes who died me and and like the pallbearers

were going to start fighting each other it was going to be like like popeye and bluto and like an assortment of like even more crossovers like wow really it's just so yeah it looks awesome the story features syndicate characters in robin rabbit maybe oh my gosh that's fantastic i would be so excited by that dagwood finally mickey and dagwood will meet well dagwood would have been catering everyone sadly like did the giant sandwiches that they have to push down to regular sandwich fries and they eat it all in one bite but everyone's weeping trying to eat the sandwich with the fish tails sticking out the sandwich tears splashing off fish tails um yeah i okay so this well let's talk about like the actual play oh the lights i think maybe

as a base the toon townhouse which is also in japan um where yeah it's like it ends up being it essentially is like a queue to meet mickey at the end but it is a queue where you go through his house first um the there's a lot of fun stuff in the house i think i was i was looking at details and remembering stuff i enjoyed um i like that uh first of all i mean it's the important thing to say it's like if you've never done it and been in there but you know the vibe of toontown it is very it's it's just fun to walk around it's like everything's super bendy and cartoony they just did a good job i think with all those props which is sort of in contrast with a different mickey's house that we'll discuss um

but uh you know it's just such a fun like fun house effect um i love right when you walk in that there uh there's like the closet under the stairs where he shoved in all of his uh miscellaneous you know sports and vacation gear there's like a tennis racket and a fishing pole and you know all those odds and ends that you have that collect and they're all bursting at the seams and the doors busting out in a big bulgy way can you confirm which one specifically are you talking about? I was talking about Disneyland, which is also Tokyo Disneyland. Oh, okay. Is Disneyland the one that has, I really like the stairs. It has the dog gate that Pluto, there's a Pluto-shaped hole in it.

Yeah, there he bursts through. That's a great detail. Yeah, that's really good. I just wrote down Mickey's Lumpy House. Because the house is like that tune style, but everything's very lumpy. It's very exaggerated and stuff is more bulbous than it would be normally. I like Mickey has a mailbox with his face on it. Oh, yeah.

I like that a lot. Yeah, absolutely. Also in Anaheim, you can see I have it right here. You can see Mickey's grotesque car. Yeah, his lumpy car. His lumpy car. They're going along

with the Toontown aesthetic, but, you know, there are some more successful than the others. Some of the stuff were successful, and I don't know why this car rubs me the wrong way so much, but it looks horrific to me. You know, it's hard to drive. It's gotta be super hard to drive.

And like, it's really sputtery. You know that. It takes them two hours to get anywhere. Yeah. It's all very Roger Rabbit, like, style. Yes. All of Toontown as well i mean it obviously fits in with all all the cartoons and stuff but it's very much like that looks like the taxi oh yeah yeah absolutely yeah

which is something i really like that everything that there's that sheen of roger rabbit even on the non roger rabbit universe stuff like i was saying i think it was like, okay, we want a concerted place where you can definitely meet Mickey. And around the same time, they're trying to do the Hollywoodland area, which would have had a bunch of Roger Rabbit stuff. And then that got canceled and downsized in the wake of Euro Disney collapse. So it was like, okay, can we just kind of like combine ideas? Can we do, here's where you meet the classic characters and but also there's roger rabbit stuff and i think the way they justified that

is here's downtown here's the city and then 50 feet away is where the characters live which it's very convenient to live in toontown you're just a quick walk away from mickey's a quick walk away from the city hall where, important note, he resides as mayor. Don't forget that he is also, in addition to being a movie star and filming movies in his barn, he is also the mayor of the city he lives in. Right. And that's got to be permanent. That's not something we can put Jason up for. I mean, I know we haven't talked about it in a long time, but we want Jason to become the mayor of Disneyland.

That's a long-term goal, but I don't think it's ever going to be possible for you to be the mayor of Toontown. It's clearly a lifetime appointment. It's really dicey politics in Toontown. It's like Chicago. It's like your stomping grounds, Mike. Chicago. It's really dicey. Of course your stomping grounds, Mike. Chicago. Some really dicey long time entrenched

forces there. There's a cartoon Emmanuel. The other Emmanuel who is a Toon. Yes. Hubert Emmanuel runs things with a lumpy grip.

Yeah. It's going to be interesting when they open up the Runaway Railway in Toontown because that's the different art. That's the new modern Mickey art style. That's true. I hadn't thought about that. Will they transition somehow

from the Roger Rabbit style to the new psychotic Mickey style that the new cartoons have. I think they should work with the people at Marvel and figure that out, because I think that's fun sometimes when there's an X-Men member, or there's an X-Men team with like, alright, this guy's from the

past, this one's from an alternate reality, this one's regular, and it's just like, yeah, it's just the way it is sorry gang yeah there'll be some sort of device when you enter the queue maybe yeah that like takes you into the new uh grosser world of mickey mouse and i say this is i love those new cartoons it's just it's funny how they let him be like gross and weird yeah yeah well he's got more of a character definitely when when i was with this with this gosh thing i was saying at the beginning i just

in like looking into some mickey things that was my big takeaway i he says gosh so much and i think gosh is kind of the that's what the old mickey persona is and. He's just, he says, gosh, in a scared way because something might hurt him like Pete the cat or, uh, he'll say gosh in a, or Gideon. Yeah. Gideon could always sit on him. Um,

and, or he says, gosh, in a like humbled, he's like amazed by things like, oh gosh, his like, uh, you know, he's like amazed by things like oh gosh is like uh you know he's he's proud of his achievements and his standing as the mayor and um of everything uh his accomplishments at disneyland

right uh yeah but the the character i mean the character is different i feel like the mickey of toontown is that humble mickey who would just get overwhelmed a little bit, but he was a real solid, nice guy. He didn't freak out too much. The new Mickey is very neurotic, very freaked out, prone to having anxiety attacks. He's impulsive, reactionary. Because he gets really manic he's just like all over all over the place so we'll see

we'll see what they'll do we'll see if there'll be any maybe the answer is nothing if the answer is I'm putting too much thought into this I think it might be Chuck E. Cheese rules where there's as many as five Chuck E. Cheeses in a single location at all times. Right. There's like one bowler hat Chuck E. Cheese costume somewhere in the back room.

But then it's like the new skateboarding guitar playing Chuck E. Cheese on stage. Although maybe there's no because we've hearing this. They're taking the stage characters out. So they're few and far between, I think, at this point. Well, they're a ghost kitchen operation at this point. That's true. That's the point of Chuck E. Cheese. There's no characters, there's no games.

They're going to move into Bucca di Beppo, just like Guy Fieri. Soon enough. Did you enjoy that experience? There's a tweet about this, that Guy Fieri and Robert Earl, the owner we talked about, the owner of Bucca di Beppo, they've teamed up and he's leasing space out in his less and less used Bucca di Beppo kitchens, including the one at CityWalk.

Well, they had a relationship already because robert earl is like one of the money backers for chicken guy and that was the main reason i had read an article about this um about he was opening these ghost kitchens and i was like wait does that include the city walk one and i looked it up and it was on postmates so jane and i ordered it um overall uh you know there's a lot of fine prints i almost tweeted this as a follow-up but i was like oh this will inevitably come up on the show um you can't customize anything so sauce squat there's no sauce selections you get whatever sauce comes on it that's crazy to me anyway go know, I know. The chicken guy sandwich is still pretty good. I went, I took a big swing.

I tried the burger topped with mac and cheese, and I am still feeling it. I knew it. I had a feeling you would be. Yeah. The worst part was that they put lettuce tomato on it too, and that went on top of the mac and cheese and that is a weird combination.

That doesn't work. That's strange. And it kind of made the bacon soft. It all tasted pretty good but I have not eaten big portions like that usually during quarantine. I think when I cook for myself, even when we get

takeout, I don't eat Thierry style portions. So stick to the chicken sandwich. The fries, I would, if you like kind of like double fried fries or fries that are battered a little so they're extra crispy, they're a pretty good version

of those. That's my roundup about it. So stick to the chicken guy uh sandwich that's you know that's the long lesson they also offer this terrible cheesecake that mike and i had in vegas once you can get that delivered to your home you're talking about guys cheesecake challenge yes yeah we did we did uh take the challenge on not his best work work. Not, yeah. He's lost. Will we still be able, like when Bucca di Beppo opens fully for dining,

will we be able to be like order from the secret menu and like wink at them and get a chicken guy in Bucca di Beppo? That's a good question. Yeah, I don't know. It's a brave new world

that you can get, you know, chicken guy delivered to your home if you are near a participating buka to pepo the encino one did you just call it pepo i just heard that pepo or that did i say the i spell checked the beppo multiple times i kept going to the website to make sure i spelled it

right for the tweet and now i knew i messed it up you're not gonna get that by us no no any slip up we will definitely say it i'm sorry um that's fine that's fine that's true uh uh okay back to biggie's house um so uh yeah there's any anything else that we like in the house that's fun you you really see a great number of details you see his laundry room you see a big assortment of uh what he's washing his clothes with which is this fun little gags to look at like one like 408 and a half um there's fun little names to all those yeah there's uh well it's i understand why they did it but it it has some implications for mickey's world all of mickey's chairs are hard they're all solid and hard to sit on yeah so let's just extrapolate this mickey sits on hard chairs

he owns hard chairs none of them are soft what do you what so what do you want a chair to be like in his house i want it to be cushy i want it to be something you could relax in and not just like a slab of whatever that is you know that would i on there you know kids are gonna be in i get it the engineers wanted to spare like kids spilling ice cream or i can't have spilling ice cream mr jason's spilling ice cream yeah after Jason Spelling Ice Cream. Yeah, after one day that chair would be like a toxic waste. That chair would be just unmanageable. Right, but now it is canon that Mickey is some bizarre

character who doesn't like sitting on soft things. This is now canon. We know it. That's part of his world. Canon. Okay. Yeah, I'll buy that. I'll go with you on that. i like the second floor that you can see from his there is an implied second floor between the stairs and the first room you go into there's

like a balcony oh yes um you can see a little bit of it on the video the walkthrough there's a good like 2017 walkthrough that i was watching yeah. I am disappointed you can't go upstairs. Sure. I would like to see everything up there, but I get it. Do you want to know if the bed is hard? Well, it seems like the bed of art appears to be rock hard. The bed is, of course, rock hard. It would have to be rock hard.

There would be no way. I think he has a rock hard bed. Yeah. It would be rock hard because that's just what he likes that's canon now could it be that that is how we in the three dimensions process this maybe it's soft to him oh i see what you're saying interesting so since we're not of that world we feel the way our molecules mix with the molecules of the chair or the bed it makes it feel hard but the molecules of a mickey or any other tune it makes the chair soft i see it's possible look it's

possible like it might bend and bounce as soon as you laid down on it you know like like it it would squish for him because he's squishy because yes if two squishy things meet and then squishiness happens. But if... I mean, humans aren't squishy. So if a hard human meets a hard chair, then it's just... It all stays rock hard. Rock hard. The chairs rock hard.

Yeah. And your spine gets hurt. Unless you're squishy. Unless you're squishy. Yeah, okay, we solved it. This is all being played as evidence somewhere several years from now they left behind a tread these deviant edge lords hour after hour these men said this episode was the one their parents could listen to can you believe that ladies and gentlemen of joy mr ger Mr. Gairdner, will you re-read your own words from

2021? Mickey's bed is rock hard. Exactly. I rest my case. I am an edgelord. Other edgelords aren't cool. I'm making edgelords cool again. Am I supposed to be embarrassed by this

what's the problem this trial is out of order no further questions your honor the uh you see uh there's books on his shelf that you could see you could see moby duck you could see cheese and peace cheese Bees is very long, just like War and Peace. That's right. You can see Mickey's baby book. You can see he has dolls of himself and Minnie. And he's got a picture of Daddy, of Daddy Walt.

We're staying bizarre again. You're saying Daddy. Do you think Mickey calls him Daddy? Yes! Yeah. You're pulling things into canon, but you've just established out of nowhere that mickey calls walt daddy daddy oh gosh daddy i didn't even mean it to be that creepy but i think that's what we call father i don't know that he's his dad or anything. He is his dad. What would else be be? He created him.

If only he didn't love cigarettes more than me. Iron Man calls Stan Lee his father, his daddy. Oh god. What? Did that happen somewhere? I don't think so

but maybe. Iron Man has a very Did that happen somewhere? I don't think so, but maybe. Maybe it did. Iron Man has a very conflicted relationship with his father, with the other Stark. Scott, all your characters that you've created over the years, you know what they call you. Wait, so me too, with my aforementioned videos? Yeah, all those characters, your Moonbeam City characters, they're daddy.

Hmm. So Chrysalis Tate calls me daddy. The Juggalo character Crazy Thug Nuts calls me daddy. Yep, that's correct. Yeah, nothing weird about it. Just a fact. I don't know if I was supposed to say any of that. Crazy Thug gosh, keep it G-rated keep it okay gosh rated um and i will try to not think about that all

these characters are somewhere they're all somewhere uh uh yeah the moonbeam city is now available by the way or will be available i believe on Paramount Plus, and as we know from the Super Bowl, Paramount Plus takes place on top of a mountain, on top of Mount Paramount, where James Corden and Beavis and Butthead and Dora the Explorer hang out. So they're up there too, even though...

Hiding each other. Food ran out weeks ago. Who looks the most delicious? Oh, goddammit. Spongebob is gonna eat Dazzle Novak these characters nobody cares about eat the one seasoners first gotta warn them

they're weird they call that guy daddy all the time thousands dead on Mount Paramount thousands dead on mount paramount james gordon the last to go james gordon ate them all the world war z zombies turning on themselves oh the humanity um i uh there's maybe something to talk about just before we get too far and something i don't want to miss in this episode and devote some time to um and that is this um toontown is where all the characters live and they all have houses that kind of reflect them and their style even mickey's

house is a little bit you know a little bit yellowish it's sort of like looks like colors he would wear donald's boat looks like him uh uh goofy's bounce house even looks like it so all right so all the characters are there they have their little characteristic houses uh and then and so uh of course you got minnie's house as well minnie a separate house mickey and minnie Mickey and Minnie live in separate houses next door to each other. Interesting, noteworthy. Is this the way that couples should be more often? We go beyond just the separate beds into that you have separate little houses, but right next door to each other for easy visitation. Mickey and Minnie are lovers, but not married. I think that is the canon.

Yes. Yes. And it's not like Duffy and Shelly May, who have, there's just a platonic love, a perfect love, but it is nothing. There's no sexual connotation to it at all. Mickey and Minnie's love, I think, is sexual in some way so i but i don't think they're together so it makes sense maybe they just live on the same street that's when they they first met each other because of just proximity which is how so many of us meet our partners it's just we're by them at work at uh at play at school you know whatever that's how

that happens so i think it makes sense that they just sort of met, they happened to live near each other, and now they are together. They were neighbors. They were among the five people who lived in this one neighborhood. They were the two mouses, the two mice who lived next door to each other. There's a lot of expectation that they would get together. Do you think that it's ultimately a little hollow? Are they paired up just because they're mice and they were the only mice in town it's possible i mean yeah it's it's is it like they were together since they were in high school and you know it was just sort of just perpetual motion is the reason they're together possibly now it's there's a tradition i mean now there's an expectation that they have to be together because they've been together for

so long and they're the faces of these of this giant company and people would feel let down if that wasn't the case so i think there's a lot of pressure on them in a lot of different ways to stay together but they yes they they you know i think you know they like their own space maybe yeah yeah i mean having if you could arrange two little houses next door to each other i could see the appeal in that i don't like i don't want any distance from aaron but how awesome would it be to have two little houses you'd still visit each other all the time i just think that's hard to arrange i think one house is tough enough let alone but i mean it seems like more like what happens in like a like you know your your leisure worlds

you're like elderly communities people have little little pads and they go visit each other they hold hands and watch tv right we're very eccentric rich people like the the couple that i thought of that it's like oh they lived across the way from each other is not one to emulate because it was woody and mia so uh okay all right i'm sure there's some old hollywood like as is like the golden age of hollywood um you know more and more books came out over the years you you hear about weird like relationships like i don't you know people always talk about uh Tracy and Catherine Hepburn, but he never divorced his first wife. They had a very odd kind of relationship.

They had a professional one and then a romantic one, but it was very much a product of its time, where it's just like, well, I can't get a divorce, you know? So maybe Mickey and Minnie have a weird golden age of Hollywood sort of thing. It's when they came to prominence, it makes sense. Yeah. They played by those rules, by weird 30s rules.

So you think Mickey was quietly married to Clarabelle the whole time? Still is. Still is, yeah. I think that's what Jason's implying. Yeah. I think that's likely. Yeah. So it's a whole, yeah.

I mean, who knows? Could Mickey and Minnie's love be sort of an arranged marriage type of a thing? Could it sort of just be for show at this point? And Mickey and Minnie have other boyfriend and girlfriends. I mean, maybe. I'm like minnie could maybe date it's possible that she could have the ability to date and see other people if they have she definitely does the tabloid version this is this is the sanitized version of mickey and minnie but like like bogart and bacall was much rockier, you know, much more chaotic than the popular culture remembers it.

I mean, look, I've talked to people and they've seen Minnie on Hinge, you know? She's on there. So I don't know what the story is, but something's going on. So if she were to, like, I don't know, get a little flirty with a random park guest repeatedly. Right. It doesn't, it's not, I don't know but she could be looking for more it's possible yeah never know what i'm hearing that's what i'm hearing that's what i'm hearing i am i found a bizarre bit of literature kind of uh about everything that we're referring to i don't even remember the website anymore they might not mind if i don't source them in this case but um i hate let me

this this is just really strange um it's so cute that mickey and minnie mouse built their houses next door to each other in toontown as far as the public knows they have never been married although walt disney said this might change everything walt dis Disney said in a 1933 interview that in private life, Mickey is married to Minnie. Whoa. That's from Walt. But they keep up their public persona by having their own places to live. Whoa, wait a minute. So this person's extrapolating from a Walt quote that it's actually the opposite of what we've all been saying that they,

they are married and that the separate houses are to keep the possibility open. All law. Let's not say that John Lennon has a girlfriend because we need the girls to think they can get with him. Just like all girls want to know that maybe at the end of the day, they could still get with Mickey. Wow.

So what you're saying is that i'm been led to believe a lie about minnie and myself and that minnie's actually married and she's just been leading me on and maybe hundreds to thousands of other park guests over the years hundreds of thousands of park guests over the years by making a loud smooch noise and rubbing her plastic snout into my head. Yes, and it never came out because Mickey and Minnie clearly had something on Golden Age of Hollywood columnists, had a hopper who Helen Mirren,

is it Helen Mirren? Someone played her in Feud, Betty versus Jones. So maybe it was Walt. Maybe Walt had the dirt on her. And he's like don't you ever don't you ever print that mickey and minnie are married or i will ruin you oh this was this quote yeah somebody might have like by this getting lee walt said this to a reporter at a party he'd had a couple of drinks and he let it slip and then it got printed and

that reporter is no longer with us. As we discussed before, Mickey, she's got a crush on you. You've been together for a while and it's just a crush? That's a little weird. But if they're keeping up appearance, if they're, you know, it's an act. This is interesting

because I was very lucky and I got to go into Walt's apartment on Main Street. And there are two fold-out twin beds because I was very lucky and I got to go into Walt's apartment on Main Street. Mm-hmm. And there are two fold-out twin beds. Oh, yeah. One for Walt and one for his wife, Lillian. Right.

But like- Yes. People, adults slept in the same bed. It wasn't like I Love Lucy. That's my understanding. But apparently it was fashionable for a while people thought for health reasons it was better to sleep in separate beds like medical the medical you know studies on that were not quite clear people but i want oh it did appear

more chased on tv interesting but i wonder if like was thinking, you know, when people tour this for many years, I want them to think that Lillian and I were both single. Yeah, because he's on TV too. He's in the same boat as Mickey. He's on... It's weird to think that Walt Disney was still on TV all the time.

When the John Lennon thing, I'm discreetly... John Lennon and Ed Sullivan, that's happening alongside Walt. And so, yeah, it's Beatlemania, but it's always Waltmania from the 40s on. The same girls screaming for the Beatles would also scream for Walt Disney. They want to go with him. Did he have his wedding ring on when he was touring Imagineering on TV? We got to check.

Oh, I should check, yeah. When he's taking that tour guide around with the hat and the little bull riding thing, whatever. What do you call it? The crop? Riding crop? Or the crop. Yeah. I don't know. I gotta check. Yeah, Walt's gotta keep that dashing single image

alive. They always talk about Uncle Walt. Do they talk about uncle walt they don't do they talk about aunt aunt lillian auntie lillian i don't know i've never heard that yeah he wasn't out there as much this is all don't you dare print don't you dare print that judy davis was the actor who played head of hopper in the show terrific terrific she's good yeah um hmm so strange it's a false front the the because you you the you won't think anything is weird oh of course this relationship like the uh they are not technically locked down because

they just live next to each other in two separate houses. A completely normal thing. I was also wondering is the last name a coincidence or are they was her name not, maybe she like other characters, like

Goofy had no last name at all. She was Minnie with no maiden name. And then took his. Are Donald and Daisy secretly married as well? Because they're both duck? No, you just don't. There's just no representation of Daisy.

She doesn't have a separate boat next to his and she doesn't seem to have a room in there. I don't see any Daisy belongings in the boat. There are photos of her on the boat. Isn't there a Daisy's house at one of the parks? I know this. I've brought this up before.

In the Julio Torres stand-up special, he brings up that there is a door that says Daisy's house and you just can't go in it. Oh, I see. And that's the representation. You don't get to know. But she's a private person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She doesn't want people I rightfully so like thousands of people going into your house

every day I think it's odd that the characters if we go back to the Toontown mythology and we haven't talked a lot about Toontown but the whole idea with Toontown is that what the Imagineers are selling to you is that it was always there like when Disneyland opened he also like

got put in a little gated community for the characters to live so that they could be close and like come out and say hi to everybody so it's not just that you know toontown opened to the public in 1993 but it was always back there um right yeah

so they've uh i forget my original point with this um uh i think it's i think it's neat So they've, I forget my original point with this. I think it's neat. I don't remember where I was going. You were just going to say something shocking probably to try to. Yeah, yeah.

Some edgelordy stuff. Yeah, I just. Oh, just that like those houses existed, but the idea is like it's so in the the 90s they had to cut a new deal. Like, are you cool with, we're going to open the gate here and people are going to flood into this house. So anything you don't want us to see, you got to hide now, like a gun, like your rock hard bed. They had to get rid of a lot of different things in those places probably and just so to make it sure to make sure people would um not be offended by whatever paraphernalia mickey had lying around and so daisy said no daisy was like no dice nobody's coming into my house yeah f you gosh you gosh you no one's coming in here my daisy voice yeah so it's uh I'm trying to think I was thinking like who else house wise do you want to go

into like who other characters in the Disney parks house do you want to see like if you could go into anyone's house they have to be a theme park specific character but like Indiana Jones is on the table since he's in a ride they have to be so I can't it can't be disney characters or

the characters who are in the park i would say it has to be in park characters and it would be sort of an adjacent thing to maybe where their rider experience was like would you yeah would you want to see like where chewy lives in galaxy's edge what would be your number one because as a kid i think i always i i was very big on having like the play sets of toys where you would see characters live like i the ghostbusters firehouse and i was like kind of upset that they didn't have their own beds in the firehouse and i remember a babysitter one time made me like little napkins and was like here we'll make the beds for them and i was like this is awesome yes i do want to see where the ghostbusters sleep and then my mom threw them out immediately because she said

it was a fire hazard there's a lot going on here you want to see where the ghostbusters sleep first of all yes i did i like that and when i got the ninja turtle sewer i like the idea that i could i could like put the figures in like a lying down have them sleep. I like the idea that I could see where they lived. You made little beds for the characters? Yeah. Well, the sewer didn't come with beds. None of these play sets came with beds, which bothered me. Because I was like, if this is where they live, I want to see their beds.

So this babysitter made me little napkin beds for the Ghostbusters, which were thrown out immediately by my mother but i'm saying like i for whatever reason i liked that idea i liked i think i've made them feel more alive to me i like seeing like michelangelo sleeping and this is the fireproof uh safe that donatello made them all to store their social security cards and passports in. Yes, I wanted to see what kind of safe Donatello would invent. You wanted to know you could steal the turtles' identities if you so wanted to. I wanted that on the table.

Doesn't mean you will. This is where Venkman and Spengler, this is the medicine cabinet where they keep their centrum silver because they're getting older you know that's got to be in the new ghostbusters some sort of scene like that uh yeah i think like i just like getting i like those fantasy land rides the dark rides a lot if for kind of the similar reason like you got to go into the dwarves house you get to see and this is look this is these are there's tlc shows you know people are fascinated i think by seeing where other people live and when all the rooms in people's houses and i think there's so many reality shows based on it i have very little interest in seeing where human beings live mike i think people like those shows because they're usually like insane characters or like just wild people. I don't know that many people are like, oh, check out the bed.

Check out the 90 Day Fiance's home office. But I'm saying like House Hunters or the Flipper shows. We used to go to model homes all the time or open houses and we did that yeah we did do that okay i see what you're saying there's a human being i think a psychological thing with like just wanting to see where other people are sleeping i don't know what i don't think i have it i don't think i know what you mean jason where does it where does this does this resonate with you at all did we got to see egon's bed well i i i kind of like half because i i i see mike's perspective i because i i would often worry about like wait so how do so each x-men has their own room and they're eating

everyone's eating right everyone's getting hours of sleep yes you want to read about it the machinations you wanted to know i do i it's also like in movies and tv i'm like does anyone in this do they ever go to the bathroom i but i know i know now that that like story-wise it's just not enough time to put that in i think for house hunters and and that sort of thing or were loved or listed that is is kind of aspirational like is people like oh that would be a cool out maybe we could get a house like that you know um i i did read a while back that you know the reason open open concept like open living room into kitchen is popular on those shows a lot because men, when they watch, keep the channel tuned in

if there's demolition going on. So they often are demolishing walls to put rooms together. Like that is, his designers are not necessarily very fond of that. It's just like become popular because people see it on TV. We're forgetting also an example that it's not currently on, but two examples, Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous,

but also Cribs. People want to see famous people's houses. They want to see what it looks like. They want to see all the nooks and crannies. I don't think it's... Okay. I'm not saying... There's a voyeurism to it. People want to see the lives of and crannies. I don't think it's... Okay. I'm not saying... There's a voyeurism to it.

Yes. People want to see the lives of the rich and famous. But like you, I wanted to know... I wanted a schematic of the X-Men's mansion and I wanted to know

where Colossus slept. I wanted to know which room Beast slept in. I wanted to know all of that stuff and I would have really appreciated a comprehensive map. I think they have some maps like that. Yeah, some here i've never had this desire about a character i can

think of no examples of wanting to see where somebody's bed was now you keep saying bed as if i'm meaning in a sexual i don't take all the sex any sexualness out of this this is nothing to do with that i'm not i think I think it's just, but even regardless, I think there's a, there's like a privacy issue here. Like you, or like wanting that, that you're kind of this overseer,

like, and I tuck the turtles in and there, and now they are down, and they're like, all right, they'll be up in eight hours. Rest up, guys. A lot of good fighting today.

Great fighting, boys. I had, when I was a kid, I had a multi-year narrative with my stuffed animals where I would make up stories with them. And I remember this so vividly. I remember what the base I had created in my head was for them. And I would enjoy, well, then Wile then wily coyote goes over here to sleep in his room and then this character goes over here like it was very organized in hindsight wily coyote has a room yes he has a like he sleeps on a human bed and not just like on a rock or in a cave they lived in a base that was in a waterfall is my memory.

And I had like my Ernie doll, my Wile E. Coyote doll. I think maybe I had Sonic the Hedgehog in there. There were like a collection of five characters that I had teamed up like the Avengers. And I would like make up a story about them almost every night. And I remember these, I remember this pretty vividly and i could probably sketch out what the base looks like in my head of what the adventures they would go on to well the listeners are going to want to see that now that's good ancillary content all right here is the waterfall here's like the square footage of the waterfall base where ernie and Wile E. Coyote and Sonic the Hedgehog. Here's where

Sonic kept his rings. Here's Sonic's ring closet. And then just make sure you do have somebody... The base is under renovation and there's a lot of jackhammering going on so our male listeners will not tune out when looking at the photos of the base.

We should retroactively put a lot of jackhammering sounds on this podcast just to keep people engaged. For the boys. For the fellas. For the fellas, yeah. For the fellas. For the lads. For the lads.

You kind of share, I think, a sensibility with... Boy, I never go wrong if I end up in my little podcast research on disney.fandom.com, which always has some odd bits of writing. And now I feel like maybe you wrote this. They break down the things in the house, the many rooms, most of which we haven't gotten to and may not, just at the pace we're going. The places of interest. Bedroom, where Mickey sleeps. we're going the uh places of interest um bedroom where mickey sleeps inside his room you can see his black shoes he wears in the parks as well as the famous suit and other clothes he wears in the parks also is a photo of minnie and a very sloppy bed doesn't the bed fluctuate i thought the one bed was clean and the other was sloppy regardless

i the one closet is just the tux and tails like he wears in the parks and that seems hard that seems tiresome he does not get the rest and he wears other clothes you know yeah i wear other clothes yeah all the time yes many as many or mickey has many clothes also just in the last one on the list bathroom where he bathes and does his grooming i also highlighted that section of places of interest all right i did write you as well i did write that yeah you edited out the other filth that people do in the bathroom you don don't want to hear about Mickey's waist. I just want to know where my favorite characters go to the bathroom. Yeah. I just want to see it. Mickey and

Minnie have separate toilets they don't share because they have to keep up their public personas. So hers looks like her and has polka dots and his is bright yellow with strips of red. It's shaped like his face. Mickey poops into his own face.

Mickey poops into his face. Now here, now at the one hour forty-five mark or something, you said the phrase Mickey poops into his own face. And again, you ask the jury to not think that anything

is wrong you or your work oh boy I think this is where we knew things were going it's like finding out about their lives

do we we like this barn idea, this movie barn. I always liked how... So the premise here is that Mickey has set up... He doesn't necessarily want to go all the way up to Burbank to shoot the movies

on the Disney lot, so they've set up a place where he can make things himself. When you meet Mickey, he is in the middle of filming. There's one of four little places where he could be filming. I want to say these are, if I can remember, Infantasia is one,

the Sorcerer's Apprentice scene, Mickey Through the Looking Glass is one, the Band Concert is one, which was what that one ride is based on, the Silly Symphony Swings, and Steamboat Willie, concert is one which was what that one ride is based on um the the silly symphony swings and uh steamboat willie which i like because it's black and white i always that's the one i wanted to get when i did this as a kid and i don't think i did because i like that the set is black and white and they make his clothes black and white as well i thought that was clever yes that's i i have tried

we've only done this a couple times, honestly. And I've never gotten that one. That one seems like the most fun to get. Yeah, yeah. You can get on the boat and swing the ropes and stuff. But I like this idea in general. This whole I'll make the studio

come to me. This is before a podcast. This is before Marin and the Garage. This is before a podcast is before marin in the garage this is before rogan moving to texas this is he was uh very industrious to like you know he like i've made my money they can come to me i was talking about it oh yeah no go ahead i was i was i was talking to robert rodriguez i like took her i looked around like his setup down in austin and like it's great he doesn't have suits bothering him you know breathing down his neck like that's what you want just like the freedom

you know you can get catering from captain kids every day and it's right there yeah come on check out the facility shoot whatever you want yeah let's just like make something crazy like just for us like just to knock Hollywood on their asses I've been making a lot of experimental films in my garage too nobody's gonna see him

it's just for me yeah you're not uh no I love I love this idea Mickey's got a great idea and he's got the money to make it happen um and he can work from home yeah working from home it's a better way of life better quality of life it's great only being at home and doing all your work from home rules i think we've all learned this yeah we we love this we love it we love doing this on zoom it's not going back by the way i take back the country bear i take back that country bear promise it's gonna be on zoom sorry wait no

we're sticking to no no i love zoom now no we have to do this i've turned the corner you and jason can get together 20 minute commute save Save on the commute. Save on the gas. I feel like Jason's going to be on Zoom too though. We've all just gotten to. We're all just going to do it from bed now. All look at each other in our sloppy beds. Our very sloppy beds. I'm lying down.

I put this on the ceiling. This backdrop on the ceiling. It's stuck to the ceiling. I'm lying down. I don't want to explain it. I don't want to explain how it works with the physics but needless to say i'm lying down like a tune house thing yep wow um so yeah mickey doesn't have to commute he was probably just producing through the pandemic he was probably at no slowdown as far as his output oh Oh, sure. Made a whole feature. Made a movie about lockdown.

Because you have to address it. It's an elephant in the room. And people want to see my take on it. People want to be reminded of this time for the next couple of years. I'm pretty confident of that. They want most of their art to reflect it. They don't want to just forget um i like this i like all of this stuff too because it's another sort of childhood fascination of corridors and

secret areas and surprises when it comes to how like the idea of a mansion we've said this before i'm sure with like a secret room or a secret this like going into mickey's house the first time whenever i did it which is in my late 20s i'm sure it was like oh whoa there's this and oh and this as well like there's a real fun exploration aspect of it too because you think you're just gonna see the the basics but no no all this stuff is is this there's discovery is what i'm saying which is fun the way it keeps going back and back and i don't think i knew any of that and i love that like it's kind of eerie the backyard with the chickens that glow is kind of strange but it's a cool

room i was watching a walkthrough and like man i would i absolutely would like to go be in that room again i really like those chickens those are are some good plasticky 90s animatronics. There's a gag with carrots that a carrot disappears and a gopher pops up or something like that. Yep. That's all nice. Mickey's overalls are there, which looks like he

left his butt in them. Oh, yeah. Or just kind of permanently they're stretched to a butt degree yeah and it says mouse kosh right mouse kosh like mouse kosh oh gosh yeah mouse kosh seat we should have said seat or we should have said gosh mouse kosh oh gosh uh so yeah i like all this all the detail is fun and there's like a lot of stuff I missed I wish I was like oh this would have been great to go and then

write everything down Mickey's to do list? Mickey has a to do list pinned up somewhere? Oh yeah is there anything interesting on there? Well he wakes up at 5am and he commits to being in the movie barn at 6.30am Oh god

It's kind of brutal. Water lawn, call Minnie, eat a balanced breakfast, play with Pluto, mousercise. He makes time to mousercise. It's really hard to build good habits. He seems committed and I think

paper to-do lists help me more than apps, I think, if I write it down. I'm more likely to get it think if I write it down I'm more likely to get it done if I write it down on paper so yeah I respect it I like that he writes with he writes like the in the Disney font with all the

swirls and the W's done in the swirly way and the I's are dotted and the D which it's like boy it's insane to see an entire thing written that way it's like seeing a big like prince liner notes where there's so many twos and fours and u's um you really gotta stare at it for a while to know what you're looking at you know that's how you know it's a great art it's almost illegible when you see a whole page of that like the like the springsteen

the the copies of his uh like darkness on on the Edge of Town books is chicken scratch. It is almost unreadable. Because they're just, like, throwing it out. They're not taking time to make it look nice. So, I mean, that's, like, that I feel like is the most of what I have to say about. Oh, you know, one more thing. I really like that little, so you get through, you get into the movie barn and you're waiting for the, the light to go on to tell you that you can go into,

uh, one of the Mickey little stages. Um, and there's this great, uh, like montage of it's, it's old trailers basically for what it's, you know,

thirties, forties style, old timey trailers for the things that he's shooting mixed with all this interstitial stuff of goofy and donald working on the projector and like loading up the next clip and mickey shows up in it at one point you know what i'm talking about like all this like the like their shadows in the projector in the queue there yeah i like that so much there's like really clever animation goofy has a fight with a hair that's stuck in the projector like the hair is jittering around and then it

gets bigger and bigger and chases him around and donald gets stuck um i really like it despite it like this is one of those things that made me a little scared as a kid, like projector hijinks. I was thinking of watching Gremlins 2 recently. We talked about that Gremlins ride. Like, anything... Oh, also, the big one from that Hitchcock thing in Florida, when the birds interrupt the projection, when there's a bunch of bird shadows. I found that... I still find that kind of eerie and upsetting like that's you just

trust that a projector shouldn't go wrong if any that'll always get me a scene and where like the thing where something melts on purpose um always freaks me out things are very wrong no i think that all that mickey stuff like there's so much stuff you would easily miss i think just walking through here once, which is like any of the best stuff we always, always talk about is like, you would want to like hang out and see, you know,

new stuff every time you go. And it's like even watching this video again, and I haven't been in there in a while. I go, Oh yeah, this thing is packed, packed with little jokes, packed with stuff.

And it's like like it's still it holds up you know yeah all that stuff i think it might be because of the projector but it reminds me a lot of the and it was put in in the same era as the indiana jones adventure and therefore the indiana jones q which also just goes and goes and goes and you lose sense of geography and where are you at this point and what building am I in now and it's so engaging even though you haven't had the main experience yet

just every bit of it's been interesting and exciting and I don't know they were firing on all cylinders I think they made this a very cool experience you can feel the Eisner in it that's what I think yeah I'm throwing money at stuff attention to detail You can feel the Eisner in it. That's what I think. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm throwing money at stuff. Attention to detail. Now, which is a little less the case with the Mickey's Birthday Land house. And we're winding down here, but I want to give a little time to this. Put in in 1988. This was intended to be kind of this temporary land and then it stuck around and got toontownified and kind of unified with the one in in california um but so it's it's mickey's what 60th birthday i believe um so they did kind of like a little mini toontown like clearly like

paving the way to toontown, but a little less committed. And there is a Mickey's house and it's kind of lumpy. It's not as lumpy, but a little bit lumpy. But the main thing is that you go in and as opposed to the eventual Toontown

version, it's pretty much just a regular house. Yes. I knew this i couldn't have articulated exactly what was wrong but i had seen the pictures of toontown in california and then i went into mickey's birthday land and what a disappointment but but i love it now so much uh now it amuses me very much that this is the style of the house and mike when you were talking about the chairs about being disappointed by the hard chairs i was staring at a photo that i had not seen uh look at this black and white photo of mickey in his florida house in a soft chair in completely a grandpa's house kind of like next to an unadorned fireplace it's a plain room with nothing on the table

and he's reading the newspaper he's reading the funny pages is it like a modified like an especially cartoony disney customized funny pages no I can see from the shapes he's reading Kathy he's reading the regular comics they grabbed an Orlando Sentinel from Main Street

yes just though he's reading about like George Bush's recent policies he's staying abreast on real world events um so so i love this i like the the not fun not cartoony and i wonder like was the idea to do all right well mickey's house that's got to be a madhouse that's got to be crazy he's the craziest cartoon mind we have to make it full of cartoon stuff and then it got scaled back and like that's kind of just got to be a table or was it just like a lack of creativity from the

beginning yeah that's a good question my memory is that you couldn't get close to things either like there were like roped off they're they're blocked off well by the end of by the by the time it was like toontown Fair it was a little more cartoony like they would add stuff that's when they put up like here's like the fish that he caught up on the mantle and it's a big cartoony fish but even then you couldn't go close

to anything I don't think you couldn't go close to anything because you didn't really you could just this was like a walkthrough because yeah you would meet Mickey in the judges tent the weirdest element of this is the kitchen to me did you really, you could just, this was like a walk through, because yeah, you would meet Mickey in the judge's tent. The weirdest element of this is the kitchen to me. Did you guys look at the kitchen? Remind me.

Yeah, show us. Unless you have it. Well, the idea of the kitchen, I don't have it directly in front of me, is that it's a mess. There's like holes in the walls, there's paint everywhere, because they, Donald and Goofy convinced Mickey me is that it's a mess there's like holes in the walls there's paint everywhere because um they donald and goofy convinced mickey to uh let them use his home for the kitchen remodeling contest

for the fair demonstration yes it's gonna be before and was a handwritten note saying as much oh gosh somebody want to read the note somebody want to do a mickey here um sure Disney when you boys said you wanted to enter the home

remodeling contest by walking Mike to wait by making my kitchen look different. You weren't kidding. It sure looks different. All right. All right.

All right. Let's go. And then it smears and then it gets seary. Huh. This is Mickey scolding Donald and Goofy for messing up his house yeah because there's pain everywhere uh there's there's a hole in the wall it's noticeable though that as you talk about just real stuff the kitchen table and has just two folding chairs

like two regular ass folding chairs on it i love this i love this weird and and i think something that i like about it is that it it feels like how it felt to visit your your grandpa or your grandma at the time like they like and i'll show you like here's how the kitchen looked i think before this before this goofy Donald gag. Like, this fruit lamp and just here's some tea. It's not wacky stuff. It's just, I got my tea, my

tea cups and my cozies and my radio. No, it's not like a boombox. It's like no, it's an old, you know, it's what you hear Glenn Miller on. I listen to my stories. And then the, like, what's an old you know it's what you hear glenn miller on i listen to my stories and and then the like the what's on top of the the the stove it's just like like these are products from the the 20s like his his sugar and his flour are like mr henderson's old time goodness um molasses uh like and oh you know in my uh uh in my spice rack i have a little plant

you know i forget to water it though it's so incredibly mundane that sink that's there's nothing fun going on with the sink no it's just a sink it's a sink with like an old time cloth i don't know what you would even call it, like separating the under sink. There's not even a cabinet. The red and white checkerboard. Yeah, just like a tablecloth would be. Like he's a he just has an old person's house, which I guess he's from the 30s. We were talking about him having these 30s dating ideals. But, you know, yeah, got some hard candy of you know sick get the little strawberries with the goo inside you can have those tell me if you're not eating them anymore

because i don't i buy those especially for you so i'll save i'll save two dollars a week if if i don't have to buy them anymore i don't know what runts are or nerds are. That sounds too outrageous of a candy for me. Those'll get you hopped up. Just some Werther's. Just some Werther's originals. I said I'd never drink Senko, but it is good after dinner. It doesn't keep you awake,

you know? Do you want your third meal of milk and cheese? Come on, you're a grown boy. You need that milk and cheese come on you're grown boy you need that milk and cheese yeah I remember being so I do I don't think I'm revising my own history I remember being let down by not being

able to go around and see stuff and then either before or after seeing Toontown pictures and going yes that's right. This is not. Oh, I remember. Yeah, I remember. Well, then look at the TV room.

This is a room that you were cleaning up because the person has just passed away. This looks, by the way, some of this stuff looks like Walt's apartment on Main Street. Yeah, yeah. It really does. Yeah, so yeah, Mickey lives in a house that looks like, it's the aesthetic and style of somebody who died in 1966. Yes. It's a little TV. It's a circular screen.

I don't think I knew there was such a thing as it was just a little circle. Like, it would not even if it's a circular screen. I don't think I knew there was such a thing as it was just a little circle that it's like half the real estate of the box. The original TV was just a circle. You just see one person's head and that was it. I just want to come home after a long day

and watch the Dumont Network on that little circle TV. I love, I watch Ozzie and Harriet and I can't, no, I can't see both Ozzie and Harriet at the same time. I have to choose which one. I can only show one in the circle.

I heard tonight will feature Harriet's ear. Really excited to see what her ear looks like. I have a painting of a bridge. I think the frame is just lovely. Just so ornate. It's like being in a museum. I've been knitting a Christmas tree skirt for a while. I think it's coming together.

I just get, I do the prepackaged one. It's got the snow, but the white just kicked on there permanently i just i can't go to the lot every year and the prices oh my oh gosh oh gosh oh gosh uh the old lady mickey is pretty good is a pretty good character i'm glad you had illustrations because i didn't go back this far i and i am looking at like 2011 Toontown Fairhouse. And I'm like, when you first started talking about this, I was like, yeah, you guys are right. It looks real normal. Uh-huh.

And I think like I'm losing my mind. Staring at the big fish. What do they mean? I'm glad I'm illustrating it. It's a lot of fun there's a big fit but there's even like in the later house he had like a crazy radio with a big smile and there's eyes in the speakers but in the original one it's just a regular old radio and he never from 1949 well look that's his country house that's why they had to add that on at the end.

It's a country house. He didn't put all of his fun stuff in there. That was just sort of a getaway spot to be reminded of the simpler times. Well, I guess it's like how you would rent a house, and it was like kind of all of somebody else's stuff. Like a vacation home feels kind of stuck 20 years ago because people aren't living there all the time. Maybe that was the idea. Do you think while Disneyland's been closed, Mickey's been renting it out as an Airbnb? Possible.

I mean, I guess he has to live somewhere, but you never see him there when we're at Disneyland, so he's got to have another house like i'm worried about spreading the virus that way but you know like it's a you know what they're gonna do what they're gonna do and i like i'm not going anywhere near it for months and i gotta make that money so freedom of choice uh mickey has been lying low in that colorado town that was like all right everyone with a vacation home, get out. Stop coming here and spreading the virus. He probably perfectly recreated that Florida Mickey house in Colorado somewhere.

There's that old lady Mickey house in Colorado now. That's where he's been hanging. Oh, yeah. Until this whole thing blows over. He's hanging with Lorne. He's hanging with Paul Simon. They're all in Colorado. They were doing rapid tests. We're doing rapid tests.

You know, we're feeling pretty safe. It's like an April of the rep. I've gotten food poisoning from Shooter's Grill three times. Okay. It can happen anywhere. They've all been vaccinated since August somehow. Oh, yeah. The Bohemian Grove super site. Yeah.

The Davos injection site. Yeah. Are you going to tell me I didn't earn it? I've been entertaining people for, God, what, 100 years at this point? I mean, if I not paid my debts to you, give me it first. De Niro gets it

Then Mickey Keith Richards I've publicly cast some doubt On the vaccine but yeah I got it Okay It's true you know like I don't really believe that It was just kind of for the base You know you gotta play to what they want

I'm just saying the science isn't Fully in yet. Meanwhile, yeah, I got it. I got it. Yeah, so. I am, then just before we wrap up, because somehow this phrase has not been said, and I cannot resist the opportunity to talk about something

that's come up on the show before. I was so happy that it became a successful call and response when we did a live show. But obviously my favorite part of the house is when Mickey needs to make a phone call, what does he do?

I use the den! Now we've talked a bunch about the mundanity of the house, and maybe that gives you a greater picture of why I love this so much. This very flat phrase, it's just like, if I need to store a box, I use the attic. If I need to plug in Christmas lights, I use the outdoor outlet. There's just no, there's no cartooniness or comedy contained in the phrase a regular my dad could say if i need to make a call i use the den you don't have to change anything about the phrase um but i don't now i forget when i brought this up before if i played the the clip and forgive me if

i did but just i'm just gonna do the whole context here and and sometimes people ask what is this from and i wanted to make sure i knew which one it was we put the clip on our youtube but it's also the special it's from is the 1988 walt disney world fourth of july spectacular it's a general preview of uh mickey's birthday land the the things hosted by mark summers so if you see mark Summers and not Regis, which is very rare, then you know you're in the right special. But let me just, this whole,

because I like the den thing, but I love the other stuff very much too. So here's, oh wait, I think I shared the wrong screen. I got confused. Okay, there we go. Boy, is there plenty to do here! Like visiting my house!

Wanna take a peek? This is my living room! I love to play the piano in there! It's a player piano. Wait, he's playing a player piano. This is like the mini... How many lies, Mickey?

The mini lies? The marriage lies? The the mini lies the marriage lies the player piano where does he can see the scroll mickey yeah we can see the scroll we know you're a cypher you're know we know you're an everyman on screen but like you're living your life that way too come on man also this mickey voice this is this is like mickey hey Mickey Mouse, you recognize this voice, don't you? There's so much to do. I use the pen. I don't. We've done a lot of Mickeys throughout this.

We've been doing a Mickey voice this whole episode, and I don't feel great about my... I'm definitely no more than a C- in a regular Mickey Mouse voice, maybe even lower. I think I do a pretty good not right mickey i think when it comes to which would i think this would make for a great snl audition that because you got to do the impressions and if i said okay so this is mickey mouse but not like the one from the cartoons but like when they do a special and it was not the right voice, it was kind of off. So anyway, here it is.

I couldn't hear. I think Lauren laughed. I'm pretty sure he knew what I was talking about. Marcy Klein laughed. I heard Marcy. But I don't know. I think Lauren did. If I have to make a telephone call, I use the den.

Yeah. Anybody for a cheese sandwich that's good too pleasant dreams everybody that laugh that's not even mickey's yeah you know the mickey laugh kind of fused with peewee i think yeah. Yeah. Anybody for a pea sandwich? A little aggressive. Do you hear it? Yeah, like, trying to, like, desperately, the words are trying to desperately escape from his mouth.

I need to make a call. I use the There's a pause as if a joke is coming, or a pun, or something. Nope. No. If I want to brighten the room up, I put in a plant. If a pipe breaks, I call a plumber. Because I don't want to...

You know, you could watch a tutorial, but I'd rather just leave it to an expert. And I can afford it, obviously. Like, I guess cheese sandwich is like oh isn't that cute he's a mouse he eats a cheese sandwich there's that but he might also just be like also like a just a bachelor would say that like somebody who doesn't live with somebody who knows how to cook cheese sandwich again when i'm hungry i just take a big spoonful of peanut butter out of the jar the way mike has always eaten no that's only pandemic that's only from the pandemic come on mike eat milk and cookies like a grown man

well i didn't say it was any better yeah that's a good point yes yeah yeah there's no moral superiority um i also want to keep playing because there's one more thing in this after you go to the house and we're not going to do mickey's birthday land or starland obviously there's so much more to cover there we will get to all that but just i'm going to extend the clip into this other thing where uh mickey i mean he'll explain it but there was also a thing uh i think called the mouska maze um that was like a little hedge maze you get lost in and also there was little like water gags and i just really like the way he he narrates this so when just kids are

getting like little squirts of water in the face is what's happening. This is the most amazed that kids can run through. Whoops. Whoops again. I just am laughing at these kids like as if he's controlling the water himself. Whoops. Whoops again. He also knows what he's doing too yeah yeah pretty clear yeah yeah he's effing with them i'm gushing with them they like it

come on that's what they come here for it's it's fun it's like he's got false teeth doing that or something like it's got like the voice is so strange you're still sitting i bless kids with the hose sometimes i i sit off but they like it's for the kids like to get wet right whoops again that's like uh i i don't know if this is a rumor or this is fact uh where they say like there's like five Mickey voices and they just like offer the amount of money they're willing to pay to the first one and if that person turns it down they go to the second one and so on. I've heard that. I don't know if that's true.

I assume it's somewhat true. And it feels like they got down to like the eighth Mickey voice. Like, will you do this video for $50? And he's like, yeah, sign me up. I'm Mickey now. That's just what he sounds like already that's why he at least he's not gonna put in a he's not gonna sweat it like his voice is already very

high yeah it's an old man who sounds like Mickey Mouse already and he's willing to work what's gonna happen the union's gonna get more mad at me not possible I'm retired as it is. I'll cross the picket line, whatever. I don't use the word scab.

That's not my word. When they ask me to show up somewhere, I do it. That's called being a good worker and an employee. Showing the studio some respect well figure out who that voice is if they yeah i'd love to hear the name of who is the den mickey um and i just i think we we've proven throughout this episode that if they need a uh what 15th 16th and 17th string mickey oh yeah yeah you know the three guys to call oh sure yeah if you need some punch up for uh shanghai's which was called meet mickey i think it's now listed on the website as selfie spot with mickey everything's a little different right now

you know if you guys need something turned around fast, we're around. Before we go, or I guess we can say do the wrap up, and then before we go, I found a little tease for whenever we do Starland, I think. Ooh, boy. Okay. Well, that's exciting. Hey, let's get to it. You survived! You survived!

It's going to be really clipped. It's not even just a bad voice. You survived! I kissed the bride! You took a tour of my house if you want to follow us on social media check out twitter facebook and instagram and if you want to pay us five dollars a month for bonus content patreon.com slash podcast the ride it's more fun than a dan it's like veering on robin leach almost in places uh i'm gonna freak you out right now because i was i was

mentally cutting this sort of for time however when i was looking up it like okay when i was just googling mickey's house somehow i ran into something and i don't know what it is called mickey's townhouse. There's Getty images of the man you just mentioned, Robin Leach, who you mentioned earlier.

This is I don't know what the context is, but this is from Getty images. This is Robin Leach at something called Mickey's townhouse. And he is in front of a bunch of ceramic minis and goofies. And he is holding a Mickey shaped cookie on a stick, drinking a glass of wine and looking very demented. Yeah, crazy. Yeah. Yes, this is Joker-esque. Wow.

Here he's looking slightly crazier and shoving it into his mouth. He definitely knows how to eat food. That's for sure. I know how. No need to prove it. And then he's, now like an eye is coming out of his head as he eats caviar out

of the can. Out of the can with a spoon, that is like God, how much, that is a lot of caviar. He looks crazy. He looks crazy in every photo. This is bonkers. Yeah, I know.

This is kookier than anything in Mickey's birthday land house. And I don't know what Mickey's townhouse is. I don't know why he's there or what this event could be. I tried to see if there were more photos that weren't of Robin Leach, and there weren't. I was half suspecting if I found more photos that Ghislaine would be in them whatever the hell this event was

we'll do a little more research and see if we can find Mickey's Townhouse coming soon but Mickey's Starland also coming soon this isn't Starland also Coming soon I feel like this isn't as good as that now This is an insane Robin Glad you brought him up

So I was just like yeah Looking through all this stuff and there's a picture on I think it's a D23 website yeah There's Mickey's Starland It's a picture from Starland And Starland and all this stuff had like Duck stuff which I like I do like that It was a picture from Starland. And Starland and all this stuff had duck stuff, which I like. I do like that.

There's a little duckberg. Yeah, exactly, which is fun. But look at the car Mickey is in here. It's less lumpy. It's less lumpy. Less grotesque. Yes. But do you recognize this car?

I do, but I can't place it. Is a toy it's mickey's happy meal toy car i had this mickey happy meal toy mickey has the car from the happy meal which maybe it's from a different short or a movie or something that i'm forgetting but this is very exciting and i think where we didn't like the car before i I do really like this Birthdayland car. Oh, I like that. Yeah. Yeah. And this is a great photo.

He's in driving clothes. Another old-timey thing he's doing. He's in a driving cap and a driving scarf. And he's like this smoke hitting two children who are dressed like him? Like Pinocchio? What is up with these boys? The first thing I thought, the first thing I thought I'd go, are they dressed like the two broke girls? They're in the diner clothes.

They do look like the two broke girls in diner clothes. Two broke little boys. two broke little boys two broke little boys uh so yeah so anyway i'm excited to do some of this for starland whenever we get to it oh boy i like the fact there was a happy meal tie-in of some kind yeah yeah uh well and we'll talk about the toys too there's a lot to there's a lot to hit minnie's house as with the characters, Mickey and Minnie's houses are segregated to their own episodes to keep up their to show that they

are not secretly married which Walt drunkenly admitted. Of course and the Daisy door episode will also be its own. Full just about Daisy's door. But for now look forward to those and to combine several topics Fold just the door. But for now, look forward to those.

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