Podcast: The Ride - Mickey's PhilharMagic

Episode Date: June 14, 2019

This 16 year old attraction just arrived at Disney's California Adventure so we went to take a look! Plus, who or what is Chucko? Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://forev...erdogpodcasts.com/plus Aladdin (2019) episode now up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/podcasttheride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 FOREVER! DOG! that plus the return of souvenir smackdown will a bizarre new disneyland wormhole be opened up spoiler alert yes it's mickey's full harm magic on podcast the ride hosted by three grown men who love themselves a good animatronic duck bottom i'm scott gardner joined by jason sheridan Thanks for the boost on that one. Where is the lie? Where is the lie? You know? I mean, yeah. We loves what we loves. And Mike Carlson. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:01:12 And what an edgy comment. Yeah, I know. You said it in the most aggressive way possible. It would be. Bottom. Saying that, like, I think my mom, who will be listening eventually to this she'll be like that's cute she'll say like like that's nice that's the type of type of humor she would like more of because we made it bottom and not yeah even rear would be too much even uh
Starting point is 00:01:36 quarters i just built up around jason saying what's the gist something about an endometriotic duck bottom i just liked that moment. Not the horniest part of the show. You wouldn't? You don't think so? Of PhilharMagic. Of PhilharMagic. Of today's topic.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Mickey's PhilharMagic. We'll get to it. Hmm. I don't know what you mean or what you're pursuing. Okay. I'll just come out and say the palpable chemistry between Ariel and Donald Duck. Oh, yeah. Makes me very uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I don't think there's any between. I think it's entirely one-sided. I think Donald's swimming after her. He is horny, though. Yeah. She's touching his face a couple times. Yeah, but she's not. She's just being like, oh, you're a cute duck.
Starting point is 00:02:15 She's not like. But that song plays a little different when you sing it to someone. You think she's singing to Donald, but she wants to be part of his duck world i'm saying it it i don't think that's right a little romantic for me well that's not the reading i have gadgets and gizmos aplenty now that joke is too far that's a little bit too sorry mike's mom scott i would appreciate if you would go back to the clean material. No, I don't think. We usually like to do a little ramp up to this.
Starting point is 00:02:51 But no, I don't think Ariel. I think Ariel is just going about her business. Let's circle back around. Let's consider it. And then she like kind of pinches his little cheek. And then she goes back to singing about wanting to be part of the human world. That's my take, at least. It felt like they
Starting point is 00:03:05 were flirting it felt like new love i mean he's into her i just don't think she's just charming naturally but i don't think she was wanting to express anything other than friendship right to the duck to this duck swimming around looking for his hat you know i wanted to see where it went he goes for the kiss and she moves out of the way She's performing But I'm saying The song The art comes first
Starting point is 00:03:29 That's what I'm saying About the whole thing The whole entire thing Is performance Oh I see Okay Yeah Uh huh
Starting point is 00:03:35 She's a Hollywood phony All that affection Isn't real She would have made out Just like every stripper I've ever been to She would have been to Yeah now we're getting into some stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:46 She would have made out with Donald if she was into him at the end of the thing. Or at least kissed him on the lips or something. Like someday I know a stripper will do with me. Right. Kiss you on the lips. I'm going to kiss her and it's not going to be an eel with lipstick. Yeah. As happens to Donald. Up to to this point every strip club you've
Starting point is 00:04:07 gone to you like lean in for the kiss and then like they move out of the way you end up kissing like the bouncer or something and then it's a whole big kerfuffle he does a big smooch or it's like a like a roman statue that's why they have those around And you get electrified by the taser he carries. Yeah. And I'm thrown out onto the street. That's interesting. That's my life. Few too many Chardonnays, pal.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah. The bricks. We're talking about Mickey's PhilharMagic, which is a 3D movie that is a 4D movie, if you will, that is in almost all of the magic kingdoms at this point or not magic kingdom not in california oh yeah it's i'm sorry so it's in it's on almost every property it was a disney world in 2003 and uh somehow didn't make it into california adventure until this very year this year a few months On multiple continents. I was shocked to learn that it's at. In Orlando, Anaheim, Paris, and Hong Kong. And Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I passed by it there and did not go in. That's a good way to save time. That's a people leader. Well, in Tokyo, too. I missed that one. I believe so. I think I saw. I mean, I did not go in it and see it.
Starting point is 00:05:22 But yeah, it's an attraction that, you know, started at Disney World and came out of the gate fairly strong and I feel like was well regarded and replaced the, probably much needed to be replaced, just a Lion King puppet show, which was probably very good when it opened, but these things were in their course. And it was, I think, fairly well regarded at the time.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And there were immediately rumors well does it make it out to to california do they maybe put it into the muppet space which has been playing to a quarter of a crowd for many years and the answer was always no they couldn't put it in there because probably the big thing about the movie is that at some point it goes black the screen and then when you come back the screen is that at some point it goes black the screen and then when you come back the screen is much larger than it was before there's like a reveal of a mega screen which is a move a lot of these attractions do now it happens in the dreamworks theater um and so the answer is always well it couldn't come to the muppet theater in
Starting point is 00:06:21 disneyland because uh it's not wide enough to do that. And then all of a sudden, a couple months ago, they were like, eh, never mind, let's just put it in. Yeah, this was like a the called the largest purpose built 3D screen ever made at the time. Wow. 150 feet wide, I believe over 30
Starting point is 00:06:40 feet tall. I didn't know how big it was. Wow. Yeah, and it definitely wraps a lot more in Florida. Bigger than T2 3D? Not that you have screen dimensions in front of you, but I'm trying to remember from having gone there. I don't know if that's one consistent screen. There's like big metal beams between them.
Starting point is 00:06:57 This is the largest continuous screen. Interesting. Okay. Now in DCA, yes, they retrofitted the standard Muppet screen and stuck some sideways Dynex widescreen TVs on the walls to kind of simulate a wraparound. I think what, if you aren't picking this up, listener, we maybe were not thrilled with this experience. I mean, the experience itself, because we all went down together to see this
Starting point is 00:07:27 and it's probably very rare that we all experience an attraction for the first time together as a unit and we had fun doing it but we sort of walked out quietly and didn't discuss it much further which is probably what everyone else in the audience did. It just sort of landed with a little thump, and that was it. I thought, taken on its own, the movie is charming. Yeah. And people had told us before, like, hey, if you're in the Magic Kingdom, don't sleep on this.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Like, don't skip it. And I can see the appeal and it's an original iteration with the giant screen and i also have to say i watched a couple ride-throughs of the florida one and that donald uh duck bottom wiggles a lot more and the gag is a lot clearer in florida out here the audience is a lot hornier yes a lot hornier um out here it felt a little more a statue that shifted a little and then maybe you think maybe somebody's just up there shaking it around just shaking just poking a broom at it not even fully awake themselves like asleep in a chair and kind of like kicking it with one leg yeah i the audience it was not packed in there and as
Starting point is 00:08:48 we left i didn't get the sense of oh people going wow like that was great or anything we all just sort of had a slow trudge to the exit and it was like okay great okay this is here at least they're using this for something other than just movie previews yes so that's good yeah but that aspect ratio uh huh uh yeah so we all sound like we came from a funeral it's not that bad it's not that bad mainly i'm avoiding at the top of the episode we're still in the first 10 minutes or so that we've just told people like so we're talking about a boring thing we didn't like yeah we're all i feel like we gotta like get the positivity yeah i'll get i do have positive stuff to say one this is a nice uh uh i think it's it's fun to see the hits this is definitely you're seeing uh uh the greatest hits from a lot of musical 90s Disney stuff except for Fantasia
Starting point is 00:09:47 and then Peter Pan and Fantasia also which compared to like the more Broadway centric 90s songs the Peter Pan one kind of stuck out like why suddenly do we go back in time yeah I liked seeing these it reminded me how much i liked these movies and i
Starting point is 00:10:07 like these songs um uh i think it's very funny the idea of like it's the some of our greatest songs through over the years and it's mostly donald getting owned like donald just getting his ass kicked through movies uh i like that i i uh less like that it's called mickey's philhar magic and he's barely in it it should be called donald duck's philhar magic yeah um donald ruins mickey's magic i would disagree i think it's it is actually fun that it's a misdirect okay you think it's like you're gonna see a concert that mickey is gonna conduct and And then Donald fucks up and takes the hat and travels through IP. He travels through other IP. Just a great succinct description of the plot.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah. Donald takes a hat and sees IP in progress. Development of the attraction, I think, is interesting. This is one of the times that Imagineering has worked with another department in the company. They worked with Walt Disney Animation to make this. They got Glenn Keane to do the animation for Ariel again. Really? He supervised redoing it in 3D?
Starting point is 00:11:14 And apparently this was his first time working with CGI. And then after this, he went on to work on Tangled. Oh, wow. No kidding. Hey, that's cool. But we talk much about Glenn Keane, the most, who did Ariel, who did Belle? Or no, The Beast. He did The Beast.
Starting point is 00:11:30 He did The Beast. And I'm sure I'm forgetting another big one. But yeah, one of the great animators of the late 80s, early 90s era. But the thing I like about him is that he's the kid of the family circus artist. Yes. Bill circus artist yes Bill Keane
Starting point is 00:11:46 Bill Keane so one of those kids is him he's Jeffy yeah I guess he's Jeffy Scott you did a very funny series many years ago where you inserted a drawing of yourself into family circus scott meets family circus dot tumblr dot com
Starting point is 00:12:02 that was a tumblr I did it was very funny and mean mean like uh you like the whole gag is you show up and you're mean to the family circus kids it's so funny you take one because it's just a one panel circus frame so i added a second which in many cases was me adding a punch line that was not previously there in a punch line free script but yeah yeah i was mainly just like correcting the kids that's how it started was just like it's pronounced spaghetti not biscotti just being just being helpful and then it became then i started within the world of this having sex with the mom i was breaking up the family circus, which now I realize is animator Glenn Keane's mom.
Starting point is 00:12:47 You were having sex with Glenn Keane's mom. I made a comic, a fan comic, where I have sex with Glenn Keane's mom. Where you were cuckolding in a literal sense. Mr. Keane. Yeah, and the actual illustrator now deceased of the family circus. I, boy, this is a bad one for Mrs. Carlson if she's. Yeah, sorry. Scott, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Look, there's no way. It's fine. She understood. There's no way those, the kids with the little lines that they leave behind, those dashes that you follow, the grandparents who are ghosts. Like, I think we've all had enough of family circus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It felt fun to come in and be a
Starting point is 00:13:26 little a little combative and yeah but also i mean the admittedly the the plot with the wife was kind of because i was like oh she's got all she's kind of got it going on yeah i was i don't remember what the dad just is kind of like a like just a regular kind of frumpy glasses dad and then the wife's kind of like a hot 60s lady yeah um so what's the uh name is it uh helen or anything could we look i don't know family oh god i bet it is family circus mom what's her name uh fel oh her name is fel is a shirt for thelma that was a pretty good name honestly that was cool yeah thelma karnke all right so it passes the ellen test she has an interest well another great thing to put on the list of great qualities about the battle does sound like a replicant from uh blade runner like decades after fell it's there like the the
Starting point is 00:14:28 like a girl in tron like oh yeah yeah yeah i am fell wasn't there i'm a thousand years old there was a period where we were trying to think of you playing jeffy in a family circus movie am i wrong i mean look i gotta work you You know, hashtag Jason for Jeffy. Jason for Jeffy. Jeffy all grown up. I would like to. No, no,
Starting point is 00:14:49 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:50 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:51 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:51 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:52 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:52 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:52 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:53 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:53 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:54 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:15:06 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, well, Family Circus? I don't know about Family Circus. You want to see them groan and let's say horny? Groan and mysteries and cults and yeah. I don't know. High and Lowest, maybe. Family Circus? Dagwood. No. Dagwood, yes. Like Dagwood, like a blood, Dagwood meets Bloodline.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Heathcliff, yes. Crankshaft, yes. Lock. Beetle Bailey, yes. Lockhorns? Lockhorns, yes. Okay. Family Circus, I don't know. Foxtrot. Foxtrot, yes. Lock. Beetle Bailey, yes. Lockhorns, yes. Okay. Family Circus, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Foxtrot. Foxtrot, yes. Foxtrot's right there. Foxtrot's right ready to go. Mark Trail, yes. Yeah. They've got to grow up someday, though. Sure.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Mark Trail would be awesome. A CW Mark Trail would kick ass. I would like another Garfield. I would like a Garfield movie played straight. Like we were talking about. Played straight? What do you mean? I want a Garfield movie played straight. Like we were talking about. Played straight? What do you mean? I want a Garfield movie that's good.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I want a good Garfield movie that looks like the comic strips. But you mean played straight, like no jokes? As opposed to, no, like not live action with the CGI. I want like an animated Garfield. You want an all animated Garfield played like the played like the comic strip once in a while funny comic strip yeah yeah occasionally maybe once i don't 20 years ago i don't feel like the problem was ever with the garfield movies of all the problems you could have with it i never felt like not capturing the tone of the comic was one of them i'm interested
Starting point is 00:16:23 in what you were thinking like what your garfield movie would be i don't know it just kind of came to me like you just feel like we haven't had a good representation do you want to see the barn that barnyard gang too like from the comp is that what more you're thinking of like the cartoon garfield yeah i thought the cartoon did did capture pretty well and it had the full supporting cast with uh arlene arlene and normal normal uh john's girlfriend john's yeah i don't remember if she was actually in it i didn't like that barnyard gang though you did or you didn't really yeah really i i think i did like them or i like the idea that a show would have like a second part. I get bored with the main stories of almost every show. So I like, all right.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And then there's another thing going on. I was uninterested in them. But if you're going to ask me if I liked Heathcliff's Cadillac Cats. Which I know the answer to. Hell yes, I did. All four. I love those guys the best. I didn't give a shit about Heathcliff.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I wanted the Cadillac Cats. I wanted a riffraff and hector and the other one i think i probably i may have never encountered these cats that's how much i hated just the intro of heathcliff the song heathcliff it's the best theme song i hate that song what this cannot be a first opinion anyone i've never heard that before that's really the best song i think i don't like 50s I don't like doo-woppy Especially like
Starting point is 00:17:47 Wow Done in the 80s doo-wop That's a great theme song Heathcliff annoys me This has been raised On the Doughboys I forget where they fall on it Well the comic strip
Starting point is 00:17:57 The comic strip is nonsense Nonsensical It doesn't make any sense It's less about the cartoon The cartoon Yeah Because the comic strip If you even read it
Starting point is 00:18:04 Whoever's making it still Or if it's just a rehash, it's nothing. It doesn't make any sense. But you liked the cartoon? Or you didn't like Heathcliff? I didn't like the Heathcliff part of the cartoon. I love the Cadillac cats part because they lived in the junkyard. They were very cool. And Riff Raff had a car that transformed.
Starting point is 00:18:22 He could make it into a living space. He could make it into a cool like Cadillac of some kind. I truly am seeing the Cadillac cats for the first time ever as we speak. Really? And observation number one, horniness a theme in this episode. Oh, man. He had a hot girl. He had a hot girl.
Starting point is 00:18:39 He was a tiny little cat and he had a very tall sexy girl. Short kings unite He sewed his little like Dom DeLuise hat And a scarf How does he land a girl twice his size He was that cool And also this is the thing people Complain about that everything is sexist
Starting point is 00:18:58 Confidence Because like it's like Lola Bunny Or we've talked about this before where the cartoons Like the male cartoon is like a dumpy looks like an animal. I'm actually going to take the other angle on this and say that it's heightest to go like, how did he get her? In this case, in the Cadillac case. All right. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:19:18 There's a lot of unfair judgments put on shorter men in society. I believe that to be true. So I see what you're saying. I'm looking at a picture of the whole gang of the other half of it too and heathcliff has a heathcliff is with his exact equivalent and then cadillac cat is with somebody twice his size maybe i guess i should not be hideous about this but they're that pairing is a lot stranger i'll tell you that well i think you would like the cadill like cats yeah character and confidence goes a long way stuff do they get up to uh they're like up to no good a lot like not nothing i think true too dangerous but there's like they're like hot characters in this
Starting point is 00:19:54 show and they're up to no good and you liked it yeah believe it or not i i think it was a lot of having to do with the transforming car okay i think i like that he had like kind of a transformer type car and uh i thought i thought hector specifically which is the one with the tie i thought he looked cool and i wanted to like look like hector and i liked riffraff's hat why are you wearing a dom delhi's hat all the time yet i guess i should i guess i should age into that or captain's hat yeah or captain's hat or jughead hat yeah we should put it up to a vote what kind of hat should Jason wear could we talk just about Cadillac cats for the rest of the episode that's fine clearly we don't have a lot to say about that's why I like some of the some of these episodes
Starting point is 00:20:43 there's the too many things episodes where we're all stressed we have to jam it all in i kind of like these ones where like i feel like we have open landscape to talk about whatever the cat like you just check in with how each other are doing because i don't have a lot to say about i feel like you're coming in with a bad attitude though maybe i am maybe i am uh it's to be fair it's more about the jamming it into california adventure and less about because i did walk out of the disney world one whenever i saw it like a decade ago thinking that that ain't bad at the time it was interesting to see the characters converted into 3d yes that would have been very important thing to note that maybe you haven't now of course 3d aladdin and
Starting point is 00:21:23 beauty and the beast and lion king are all that we live for and talk about but yes these are the new classic canon of today but at the time to see actually the very first one you see especially because when you're not you're not sure where the attraction's going and uh i think the big reveal of the big screen and what all of it is is when donald is like a there's just like a candle light uh and it's dark otherwise and donald's like huh and then there's more light and it is lumiere and then you get the 3dified be our guest yes um so seeing it like oh i see so it's going to kind of step you through these great moments and in a new dimension
Starting point is 00:22:00 that's kind of fun and i did i did like it when i when i first saw it did not read as well on this because it just seemed like and now we're using all of the normal size movie screen yeah i think did they start using all of it it's at some point they switched to all of it well that's the problem and you know what i dim i looked it up and it's the same thing that happened in paris where it only went in they only put in philhar magic in october 2018 right and i watched video of it and it's the same aspect ratio it's the same cut so if we had to explain this um if you see it in florida there's a there's a really nice frame with like musical instruments golden and there's musical instruments on it and when the
Starting point is 00:22:44 part of the show happens we were going to watch a concert that mickey is conducting it fills up that whole screen and then everything goes dark and then it comes back up and there's a much much bigger screen big reveal really cool in paris and in california venture they have reduced the screen with digital curtains so we're just not using all of the screens so then the big reveal is oh they're using almost the whole screen because still for a lot of it at least for be our guest there's just like a black bar at the top so it's like a letter boxed it's so strange it's sort of like they letter boxed it twice almost like you. You were trying to figure out the numbers. I was saying it's two thirds of 1851.
Starting point is 00:23:30 So divide 1851 into thirds to multiply by two. You need an equation. It's an unpioneered aspect ratio. Is there a plussed up way for them to have done this? Because obviously putting these in These theaters are just quick Fixes the specifically California Adventure like this theater All of this area will be redeveloped
Starting point is 00:23:52 Within the next five years I'm assuming So obviously it's something right That it's all tied I think To the eastern gateway which will come back soon That's my prediction that's Explain the eastern gateway yeah it's basically The uh that we're going to build a parking garage On the other side of harbor with a bridge
Starting point is 00:24:08 They were going to shrink sort of the Entryway into California Adventure Because you would go through security Over on the other side of harbor By the parking garage And then Anaheim of course when there was a Less friendly government said Don't do that it'll choke all the businesses
Starting point is 00:24:23 On harbor because you'll just You put a bridge over harbor And made it inaccessible from the resort and they said elysium rules the rich people go above and disney instead of saying oh well we'll just make a little walkway to harbor they said fuck you we will not build this the way we wanted and then that because they they pulled that then they lose a lot of real estate that they were going to be able to develop out into the esplanade i see so there would have been like it would have california venture can then like bleed into the esplanade more because it's going to be a very narrow or a much more narrow walkway into california into the main hub of
Starting point is 00:24:59 disneyland so the the main thing is we it's been rumored for a long time that i mean already some some marvel is going in we lost bugs land and we lost it's tough to be a bug but presumably more marvel will end up in that hollywood area yeah how much is the question right and it's it and this this sort of dull on its face parking bridge issue impacts that ultimately. And or the expansion area behind Cars Land. I think you can build out into that. Yeah. And there's one behind the tower that they were going to supposedly build the Avengers coaster, which who knows?
Starting point is 00:25:40 We haven't heard what is going on with that. Or if they just say, say fuck it we're imploding that alpine hotel that's right on the property uh-huh y'all had your chance just like they just invade it and drone strike it and that's their that's their property now like they have a they got a new firework show and they aim the fireworks at the hotel and blow it up oh whoops whoops made a mistake um yeah the way they put this into dca and i i i i don't mean to just say uh i didn't mean to imply that just you had a bad attitude scott because my reaction to the execution of this would be described as well this feels a little craven like this because uh they put up the posters of like the fake there's a bunch of fake movie
Starting point is 00:26:26 posters as you're walking and those are cute like genie sings the blues or like hades a character they can never have the same actor do the voice again because he's a lunatic like there was a poster with him why not who's that now uh i don't know because he's been censored by all the social media networks um uh yeah so there was like fake uh posters for musical acts with your favorite disney friends and that led to a pre-show area that was just some more uh cheapy flat screen tvs not really showing anything and uh good point in florida that pre-show area doesn't seem to have much either but at least they have some fake chandeliers and stuff like you're going into a concert hall right there's a little more because it was built for it but the the real thing was the entryway sign yes
Starting point is 00:27:17 you notice this well i would call it the most pixelated logo anywhere in a disney park i mean if you just look at the like i i think if you go if you go to california adventure look at that sign that used to be it used to say sadly muppet vision 3d and now it's a philhar magic sign and just look up at donald donald looks like a not fully rendered playstation 2 character he donald needs more polygons yeah it's i guess really i am cutting it some slack because it's better than nothing and it's been what was literally in there before was it a preview of a wrinkle in time i think for three years they were showing five minutes of a wrinkle in time there was also the pixar short film festivals they were running a bunch of Pixar short film festivals.
Starting point is 00:28:06 For a little while, it was the Frozen sing-along show. And then Nutcracker Four Realms. The previous three years had been a preview of Nutcracker and the Four Realms. Boy, these Disney previews. This has been quite an era. Yeah. So this is, I'm cutting it slack for that reason, because it is absolutely better than those things. It definitely is.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And I think if they had just done this five years ago, I'd be like, sure. Yeah. I think it's just so strange that suddenly in any fellow nerds listening, maybe caught this happening. Like Mickey's Philharmonic opening in three weeks. And we all went, what? Why? Right. And I guess the idea being, well well let's just jam every corner of
Starting point is 00:28:45 california california adventure with stuff uh so to maybe pull out some crowds who might be going to star wars the name of the game is galaxy's edge alternatives we should also say we're recording this this will likely come out after we've been in galaxy's edge sure so we should say like we're not the same people that we will be no our voices are gonna sound different it's gonna well yeah it'll be like sort of a post like acid trip where you're different forever right so this will be the last uh this will be the last uh artifact of us before unless the change unless we somehow have we're so disappointed by it that we think mickey's fire magic was better it's better than the falcon what world i can't even imagine that world but
Starting point is 00:29:32 maybe that's right maybe we will say you know what the falcon sucked if the ride breaks and like sprays oil at us then maybe if we're disfigured from the ride the most eventful thing that ever happened to me at a theme park. So I'd be excited for that to happen. Plus, like, just for story purposes. What a story. Plus, you'd wring out your clothes and, hey, free oil. Hey, free oil. You know what hydraulic fluid goes for nowadays?
Starting point is 00:29:57 Jason wrung out a glass of hydraulic fluid into a glass after the ride. And he's coming up. He's winning. I'm ahead. He's ahead. That's what I's winning i'm ahead he's ahead that's what i'm in the fridge to like yeah oil up any rusty gadgets you got around the house yeah i have a lot of like wayne zalinski style uh doodads and gadgets machines yeah breakfast machines sausage uh shooters dressing tie tying machines yeah so um do you feel our magic uh it's it's it's better
Starting point is 00:30:29 it's better it's better yeah it's like it's clearly we're just like throw this in we got to do something what movie do we have lying around we had that idea yeah that was a bad idea back then but whatever it's better than nothing is it really gonna draw anyone away from disneyland no i it's not currently it's not drawing anyone now i mean it's a new thing that there's probably west coast people that have not seen it families will probably i mean there'll probably be kids and families who like it although the audiences that we were with seemed a little checked out yeah yeah we did get sprayed with water a lot they were leaning on the water uh sprays yeah a little too much isn't always a disney thing and i like that i like that maybe
Starting point is 00:31:17 i'm not sprayed on a disney ride with water or hydraulic fluid the best i maybe this is a full two and a half hour episode but the best water spray in a disney park i'll i'll decide it now sinbad in tokyo oh i don't even remember a spray you go into the after you're out of the village when they say goodbye you go into like a dark area and there's a storm and you get a little mist oh Oh, that's right. Right before. And it's so great. It's my favorite mist. It's more pleasant than other ones. I think we still went, eh. Sure. But we have to say the best.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yeah. I guess it would be. Can you think of a better water mist or spray Disney experience? It's not. I mean, well, I think the worst one is the one I did in the fake Soarin' in Canada where it's a sprayed air in an eye and it ruined her contact for the rest of the day. That's not Disney. We had to go Disney. I mean, you can say.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Best sprays. Best spray or I guess you could say like putting your hand out for the water on Big Thunder because then you can control the amount of water you're getting. We hate that too. Really? Yeah, every time. Our go-to reaction is ah. That's always it for us. If you tell me you like one, I'll say ah or not. I'll probably say ah. I've got
Starting point is 00:32:37 one that always makes me laugh, but it's at Universal and it's at the end of the Jurassic Park. No one's following my rules for this exercise. It's too limiting and it's at the end of the Jurassic Park. No one's following my rules for this exercise. It's too limiting. At the Jurassic Park boat ride at the end when you are pulling back into the queue, one of the spitter dinosaurs pops up when you think it's over and like hits some people with spray. I'll say that.
Starting point is 00:33:00 That's an ah from me. It's so funny because people, if people aren't looking and aren't expecting it, they think the ride's over. I felt very fortunate as a tour guide. One of the most unpleasant sprays is on the tram tour in Hollywood where, spoiler alert, when you pass by some three Jurassic Park Jeeps, then in the bushes, some spitters spit at you. And as a tour guide, i was the only person with a window blocking me from this so i never had to worry about it and uh everybody else was a sucker would you consider the old it's gone now but the mist where you would see captain barbosa on pirates of the caribbean no that's fine That was not so thick that it like stayed on me or anything.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Right. Yes. That felt so like intangible. So maybe that's your favorite. If you consider that, I just don't think that's even a spray. It's so little of a spray. I don't know if you can call it a spray. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:58 You're right. It's not. Surprise ones probably. Soarin' doesn't have any water. No, thankfully. No water on, obviously, Splash Mountain you get soaked. Uh-huh. Depending on where you are. Sure. Yeah, I guess you wouldn't call those sprays. Is there a
Starting point is 00:34:14 tough to be a bug one, probably? Yeah, I think so, but I don't remember where it is. Uh-huh. The T1 million exploding is a spray at the end of T2 3D. There's not a ton at Disney, though. No. It's universal every ride at Disney, though. No. Universal every ride. So we couldn't do a Final Four, or there'd only be four if we did it.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah, we'd have to do it Universal. We'd have to add Universal in. Copic Vision, yeah, I like it okay when Foggy does Fozzy. Foggy. Foggy. Foggy Bear is what they will call me. He does, doesn't he do the flower he yeah you get it a little you know what that one's fine they didn't go overboard with it it's just a little bit yeah but this felt like universe this the application of it in this
Starting point is 00:34:56 felt like universal felt like too much water i think because they do it in the two sequence so so just chronologically there's a whole big intro where they're not ready and Mickey yells at Don like we're not ready like Donald don't touch my hat like they're gonna get ready for a concert Donald of course touches my fucking hat on
Starting point is 00:35:17 the star and also not to side check if you're telling the story too much but before that in the pre-show and then while you're sitting just a lot of business of like we're almost ready we're polishing the brass yeah not a thing you usually hear at a professional uh performing environment yes at a stately opera people are not assuring you that the opera is gonna happen and it's not very professional yeah and it's not fun like muuppet Vision pre-show banter. No.
Starting point is 00:35:46 There's great little bits and stuff. This is just the Disney characters assuring you that they will be ready soon. And all doing very, like, workman-like jobs. Right. Mickey gets to conduct, and thus many Donald and Goofy have all been deployed as his, like, personal assistants. Yes. They're all fetching him waters.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yes. It's weird. Yeah. his like personal assistants they're all fetching him waters yes it's weird yeah but and this this has like a literal hat on a hat because mickey is both a conductor but has the sorcerer's apprentice hat at his disposal as well yes he's now the the pupil is now the the master yeah and uh he is in the the mold of the sorcerer um and thus and so now when he conduct because he steals the hat to conduct and now it's both now he's but he has permission he killed the sorcerer the sorcerer is dead right he slayed him and now the hat is his yeah yin said is in hell or at least some sort of limbo oh that's right his name is yin said yeah anybody can you listening at home who doesn't know that fact already
Starting point is 00:36:49 know what yin said is if you reverse it it's the name of the one true god it's the illuminati they're trying to communicate with us uh yeah okay so yes the sorcerer's apprentice the events of the Sorcerer's Apprentice are done. And we're not talking Jay Baruchel, Sorcerer's Apprentice. We're talking original. Oh, gee. Remember that? Vaguely.
Starting point is 00:37:14 With Nick Cage? Yeah. Wow. I only know this because I worked for this Disney promotional company. I edited Facebook content. And I remember, I might have said this on the show already, but I just remember a lot of nicholas cage rambling prattling on about i also think about playing baltazar you know you gotta remember baltazar is real that's a good cage hey thanks that's only that's my cage keyword is baltazar oh man here's something to recommend uh the the blu-ray
Starting point is 00:37:41 for spider-man into the spider-verse has making of featurettes that feature both Nick Cage talking about the movie, because he's Spider-Man Noir, and a very old Avi Arad. Arad? Avi Arad. Avi Arad. Yeah. Long time Marvel producer. Bought Marvel when he was a toy biz with ike perlmutter yeah and
Starting point is 00:38:06 still has producer credits on like the spider-man movies at least maybe the x-men ones and i believe he's a maniac yeah him and cage are out of it in these like behind the scenes things i just hear a nick cage go like my spider-man's a little rougher. He'd fit right in with Philip Marlowe and Sam Spade, Raymond Chandler. I was watching a clip of Nick Cage from the Superman Lives costume fitting last night. Oh. And he's going on and on about Superman and what he's going to do. And he's in the outfit. And I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:38:40 He was 33. And I lost my mind. Oh. Like, how? Younger than us currently. Yeah. He yes younger than all of us oh and he's weathered already he's got that voice and you're like oh my god we should be happy then you're not so weathered i guess i'm downright boyish compared to nick cage at 33 trying on weird superman i hear a nick cage now go like that movie just goes to show that anyone can be spider-man it's very fun uh that sounds good um what are we saying that we're
Starting point is 00:39:15 okay everybody's doing grunt work for mickey so you can put on a little music show donald starts fucking with the magical hat And the orchestra the magical instruments Go insane We've glossed over that When preparing for the show Donald has to take All the lots of instruments Out of a bag and then those Come to life and perform Rather than musicians being there
Starting point is 00:39:38 Thus once again Nobody's getting paid This has got to be skirting some union rule There's like 78 people in an orchestra all not making their salary because he's just going straight to the instruments mickey you're a bad employer your theater should be shut down yeah that's got to be against some like musicians equity or something yeah yeah yeah support musicians um Do not automate orchestras with magic. That is a cause for you to take up, I think.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yeah. It's important. So. So, yeah, then, all right. So, Donald puts on the hat and then they all, they all start, they start playing Mickey Mouse's theme song. Another great thing. What if I get a lot of instruments together? And what if get instruments together and i'm gonna play my song yeah and then everyone will go home that seems to be what his plan is with the show right donald as we know from the
Starting point is 00:40:35 theme song from the opening of the mickey mouse club hates the mickey mouse song more than anything he tries to say he's mad he's jealous of mickey's fame and he doesn't have a song but no he has a song but he is he's even mad at his own song yeah but no one but donald duck he's still like still mad he's very much sally area in this would you consider this would you consider disco duck his song uh no that's not related to him that's stolen again more people stealing that is not an official disney yeah he's just doing he's doing a donald-esque voice uh yeah yeah he was the original mickey not crediting musicians properly too bad so all of that happens and then and then the crazy. Yeah, they attack him.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And then you do go to that moment I like where it is black and then the flame comes up and it's Lumiere. And they're starting strong. It's a great song. Be Our Guest, great song. That animator came back as well. Oh, really? Nick Ranieri. Really?
Starting point is 00:41:40 He came back to do Lumiere. Oh. But you know who didn't come back for any of it? The voices of the actors or of the characters. Yeah. Clearly, it's all just original audio. Oh, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And a lot of the Donald is original audio, apparently. Oh, yeah. Of Clarence Nash, of the original voice of Donald? You can hear the audio recording. The quality is poorer. Especially on some of his yells. You can hear it's like a clip from the 60s or something. The current voice actor only recorded five new lines for this.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Everything else was like old stock. Probably Disney pays by the line. They're like, we only have $500 for him. $100 a line. So when Donald's humming be our guest, that's new guy. Right. OK. If it refers to something explicitly happening, but if it's just like.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Here's my problem with this show in general. It's just the recordings from the movies. Donald doesn't really interact That much he is just In the background of these famous Scenes getting hit Or owned or whatever you want to call it Sure there's a lot Of fun to be had with Donald singing along Or getting into like some sort of
Starting point is 00:42:58 Altercation with like Lumiere the main Characters there's a lot of fun I feel like You could have with Donald Getting in there and really messing the songs Up or something I like the brooms hitting him with the air the main characters there's a lot of fun i feel like you could have with donald getting in there and really messing the songs up or something i like the brooms hitting him with water in a row i like some of the stuff but it's really just you're watching a cgi version of a song you know while a picture and picture little thing happens with donald an unrelated story unrelated story in the promise of if you pitched me donald goes through disney
Starting point is 00:43:26 history screws everything up that sounds fun to me yeah but this version of it i'm assuming to save money so they didn't have to get a re-recorded version of everything they might have been worried i'm realizing about like maybe the guy was gonna like hurt himself doing donald's voice because i just did donald for one line and i'm yeah, I'm like choking a little bit. I'm going to you guys keep talking. I'm going to get water. I've been stifling it. That really fucked me up.
Starting point is 00:43:51 All right. Boy, much respect to Clarence Nash and Tony and Selma. Just go over the sink. I'm going to go cough up a storm. Get something over the from the sink. You. OK. So.
Starting point is 00:44:01 So be our guest. Sorcerer's Apprentice Brooms. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know what you're saying. I mean, we did get the introduction of the greatest love story of our time, Donald and Ariel,
Starting point is 00:44:11 the Little Mermaid. So I get that he's interacting with him, but the songs are the exact same. It would be fun if Donald took a verse and said what he wanted to be part of. Does he want to be a human?
Starting point is 00:44:21 You mean like if the scenes were under new management, some might say sure but that's that's the fun i think that's the promise of a premise like this yeah is that you get donald's doing fun stuff with the songs and it feels like you're just listening to the exact same which you are the exact same song and you're getting a little piece of business here and there and it feels it feels like i'm not seeing a new experience as much as I'm seeing a little, some cute little gags. But I'm just listening to the soundtrack from the movie I already know very well.
Starting point is 00:44:54 It doesn't feel like a fun, special movie to me. That's what makes the whole thing to me uninteresting. I've got a short tangent because it's music related um i put we post that picture a while back of the i had found the like two disc um disney world soundtrack i bought years ago on cd and i was listening to it again at my car and it just it struck me how odd it was and i'm like what year is this from and it's copyrighted 2008 so there is some strange stuff on it like i was driving along did not expect to hear like the tiki room song until like halfway through and then stop stop like oh no under new it's got the under new management iago song on it
Starting point is 00:45:40 be careful of that iago voice let me tell you from experience no i'm not doing it too scratchy i'm i survived but just barely and then the like second song on it is a thing called main street medley which for most of it is like little snippets of like long way to tipperary long way to tipperary or like sure or clang clang clang with a trolley but then there's an original song about how like it's main street today and we're happy to see you. Oh, I don't know what that is. It's very odd. So like 2008, I guess. I don't even know where I would have bought this.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Disney World? No, but I wasn't there in 2008. I think maybe I was in Disneyland and I was like, why do they have this here? Guess I'll buy it. You think it's odd that you were in Disneylandneyland and there's a cd that had a song about main street being nice no that it but it's the walt disney world soundtrack that they made i think they were selling in disneyland that's it's not like disney tokyo disney where they sell like cd singles yeah isn't it weird they have like it's just like you buy the it's
Starting point is 00:46:41 like expensive cds and it only has one track on it it's 15 minutes long yeah i bought a three disc set to try i wanted to get everything but if i were to buy all the music at tokyo disney it would have cost me a thousand dollars they have so much like physical media more there well yeah they haven't gotten into the streaming thing as much um yeah but yeah i don't know i mean i have not i would like to hear that main street song that you're referring to um yeah i gotta i gotta dig it out i gotta finish listening to it because i think there's some you got it in 2008 and i listened to it then and i forgot like this whole thing it's been on his to-do list listen to the rest of the tracks on the
Starting point is 00:47:23 thing i bought 10 years ago 11 years ago so the entire obama administration passed anyway uh so yeah part of the world uh i've already established beautiful chemistry so i just i was watching that as we were talking to refresh my memory again so here's here's what happens that i do i see some of what you're saying she takes his little feeties she plays with his little feeties takes his snoot his little snooty and she plays with his feet a little bit and then she kind of like touches gently touches his bill yeah so like lovingly touches his bill still i read that i see how you how donald could
Starting point is 00:48:07 misinterpret those signals i will say that i'm not saying it's a full arc of a love story but i'm saying it could be the start of something magical let me let me say this if people saw the way i was affectionate with edwin our dog would you think maybe edwin would get the wrong impression that i was in love with him do you sing to edwin yes does he quack back at you no he just like rolls around a little bit but like if i i play with his paws i like rub his snoot i i'm just saying like donald is a little cute animal and i don't think ariel is sentient Yeah yeah he is but Edwin is different Edwin is a little sentient Donald speaks Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah but he doesn't she I don't think I think She can't under she doesn't know that I get the sense that she's not even reacting To what he's doing because she can't hear It it's like one of those cartoons where The animals speak but like the humans don't Know she's not reacting to Any of his noises she's just
Starting point is 00:49:05 like oh look at this cute animal and she plays with his little feet i'm just saying it's not dissimilar to the way i play with edwin's feet and i'm saying that ariel is not coming on to him at all she's just like oh this is a cute animal and donald is misinterpreted i can see where his his misunderstanding is coming from well does are you ever playing with edwin's feet and then he gets a big old boner uh not the feet but he certainly has gotten a boner while i've been playing with him but i it's not because i was sounds like he's getting the wrong he has been known to hump yeah he humps me all the time when you sing all of part of your world to edwin ed Edwin gets a boner.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yes, maybe. But I'm just saying I can understand why he maybe gets the wrong idea sometimes. Sometimes when I'm like playing, I think, yeah, he's getting the signals mixed up. And if I'm on the ground, he will get on the back of my leg and try to hump me. So that's what's going on. I'm just saying Ariel is not interested in donald in a real romantic way donald is thinking that she is but it's not the case well that's all i'm saying but i see what you're saying because she does she does touch him in a taste it's a little coy
Starting point is 00:50:19 hey here's a little test look at this stuff stuff. Isn't it neat? Wouldn't you think? Not interested, but if Mike does it. He might want some water. Don't be so coy, Scott. Okay. So, moving on from Part of Your World, it goes to I Just Can't Wait to Be King. This is the thing I noticed. This is the only song.
Starting point is 00:50:40 All the other songs take place in locations. I Just Can't Wait to be king is kind of a dream sequence sort of abstract sort of abstract there's moments like this in the real how would you describe this it almost becomes like a like yeah it's a simplified paper cut out yeah worlds that we go into there's 3d simba and 3d donald but everything else is like uh the animals from brian fellow's safari planet opening yeah like pillow paper cutouts like montage isn't quite right but like in singing in the rain where they like go into they start doing the scene from the movie and then that that takes over the you like enter this you enter the broadway melody i find
Starting point is 00:51:24 this to be sort of a successful sequence. I think because I tend to like when 3D movies don't just do, and it's 3D characters and they're fully rendered. And I like when there's some style, like in Spider-Man, turn off the dark, that there's not turn off the dark. That's the fuck, fuck. It's so annoying.
Starting point is 00:51:41 That is what you meant. I mean, yes. I like everything about that. Spider, what's that? Into the Spider-Verse. Into the Spider-Verse. I don't think I ever could have produced that. So lodged in my head is Turn Off the Dark.
Starting point is 00:51:53 You know, I like that there's different styles and 2D. Like, 2D rendered as 3D is often much cooler to me than 3D rendered as 3D. Right. I see what you're saying. Or Lego movies a little in that way, to like a kookier style.d right yeah that's what you're saying i mean or lego movies a little in that way to like a kookier yeah yeah it looks cool yeah spider-verse is incredible like the the way they i mean they replicated certain artists comic styles and animated it and made that mesh yeah um the way that kingpin looks the way uh gwen stacy looks um yeah that was i had just seen it recently and
Starting point is 00:52:26 it's so great first time i teared up at a movie in a long time spider-man really yeah when he catches when like miles catches him at the end catches peter at the end before he lets him go peter says what if i mess up again i'm like oh no oh yeah i tear up movies all the time as i get older yeah i don't even have to like it i could not like the movie and i could tear up at movies all the time as I get older. Yeah. I don't even have to like it. I could not like the movie and I could tear up at something. Sure. Yeah. I don't know if I can handle a new Toy Story this summer. Oh, and they're really going to put the pedal to the metal on the emotions on this.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I don't think it's going to get me. I think they're going to shoot me stories. I'm actually, I'm kind of. The story's over. I'm kind of criticizing it in the sense that I think like they went in like, well, we got to top the last one, which to me feels like a recipe for like too much yes it's a pattern now yeah and how do you top the last one no i don't know the less looking the specter of uh the specter of death in the face yeah it's very i don't know we'll see aladdin i'm sure i'll like it but aladdin might do it too
Starting point is 00:53:23 in that i'll just be crying like i can't believe I don't have that money anymore. I don't have that $12 anymore. Will Smith's once promising career. What happened? What happened? But yeah, I just came out to be king. This sequence also makes the most effective use of the side screens because uh abstract you know what i okay i will say this i don't mind what's happening on the side screens
Starting point is 00:53:52 no um it's not great if okay within uh if you're in the muppet vision theater the the they're using the screens that used to just exist to imply like that the theater got banged up at the end yes and now they're doing a little more substantial with like like you know bonus water or bonus clouds in the peter pan sequence it's kind of like i'm told i still haven't done it and i want to i want to see one of these screen x movies that just like stretch abstract imagery to the side oh interesting um yeah there's one in buena park down by uh down by our beloved knots um but uh this i don't know you put extra abstract giraffes and monkeys over there that was fun yeah yeah i mean if you can't do like the like the dreamworks theater kung fu panda uh where they that is a pretty seamless wraparound yeah there this isn't that it's not
Starting point is 00:54:46 that but yeah no I like the abstract they also drew abstract like Donald Donald and the sorcerer's hat at the one point like spinning by Simba's head like in that style oh yeah uh-huh I like that yeah um mainly just to hear all these classic songs in one place
Starting point is 00:55:03 and every once in a while interrupted by, my hat, my hat, I need the hat. In the background. Yeah, not really mixed properly. Like the I Think You Should Leave sketch Bozo dubbed over. Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck. I don't know what guns in there and jacks off.
Starting point is 00:55:22 My hat's supposed to be here. I hope I don't jack off but tim robbins the netflix show it's so good um but then you know what we haven't really talked about also is like what uh and talking about modding out the muppet theater um what is our styler and walter still up there where is everything i think you're still up there because it's very expensive to remove animatronics so we're just looking at a curtain uh-huh because these are unused balconies at this point they used to have characters popping out of them bean bunny statler waldorf there's great animatronics just sitting in a coma state it's it's labor intensive to move them and also if they're hydraulic fluid
Starting point is 00:56:05 powered then you have to concern yourself with disposing of closing off hydraulic lines disposing of fluids and so this is why buzzy sat untouched for so many years otherwise jason's gonna get it all take it home yeah you should do a hydraulic uh fluid heist like in the simpsons when homer and bart were getting the grease oh man you just go into those balconies and suck out just have a long tube and suck out the hydraulic fluid hydraulic fluid for his cuckoo clocks at home i don't know what hydraulic fluid is used for yeah i don't either but i assume it's the j for jason's cuckoo clock collection which honestly i've known you for a long time and i've made up a lot of funny specifics for your life but i haven't come on
Starting point is 00:56:48 i haven't thought of cuckoo clock collection which makes a lot of sense to me sure that is a good movie shorthand for like this character is a little quirky yeah right but nice sometimes too geppetto is nice maurice is nice maurice is nice i'm sure mr magorium's got his share of cuckoo clocks oh for sure i think it would also make sense for you to be doing something at home you're tinkering to where you need like the big glasses that make your pupils look very big well put up and down just like winsor linsky yes yeah uh-huh sure you need you i don't know where to get them you need some good eyeball expanding glasses trying to figure out the perfect ratio of like mustard relish onions on a dog. I don't like those big pumps because like then you end up with one puddle and then you
Starting point is 00:57:34 have to smear it around. Oh, man. If you were the Dom DeLuise beret and the goggles. Oh, man. Wow. You should really start becoming like one of these fancy men, Disney, like dress up men. I think that's really, that's a look that you should do, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Maybe for your birthday, I'll buy you a full outfit. Like a Duffy style outfit. Yeah. Crazy old Jason came in here talking about some kind of beast. He's out of, he's a loon that does feel more fun than like all the 90s like vintage 90s and patterned shorts and stuff coming back like hypey shit in fashion right now i don't think i can pull that off go back to the 1890s but if i go back to like yeah not even the 1890s like i don't go back to like, yeah. Not even the 1890s. Like, I don't want
Starting point is 00:58:25 to be like an old-timey, but I want to be like a quirk, like an old-timey kook. Now that's something. Yeah. Yeah. That's a style you could own. Don't you have like a cabbie hat that you wore for a while? That I wore for a while? Didn't you used to wear, like, six or seven
Starting point is 00:58:42 years ago, you had like a cap you would wear, maybe on like a special occasion. If you had like a sport coat on, you would wear wear, like, six or seven years ago, you had, like, a cap you would wear maybe on, like, a special occasion. If you had, like, a sport coat on, you would wear, like, a floppy cap. Am I wrong or is this just a fantasy? I don't think so. I don't know. You never have a hat, like, not a baseball hat, but you didn't have, like, a little floppy cabby hat? I think there are pictures of me, like, wearing one in high school or something.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Okay. I think I found one at a Goodwill. I'm sure I've pulled it out for like shows or stuff do you have do you know where it is i have a box of hats sure i have a box of hats of like four boxes of props from years of doing comedy all right well so do i i have every prop from any video i ever made i want them to go away yeah i know but I feel Get rid of them but then I might need this sweater from Steamrollers Not just for crushing people again
Starting point is 00:59:29 I do like that sweater I have a rumpled Grimace costume That's just a sheet with Grimace's face Printed out from a computer Duct taped to the front of it And it's the scariest thing But I will not get rid of it I've used it twice
Starting point is 00:59:45 in five years and there's really no reason i should keep it but it's truly like a nightmare and i but it's like my favorite thing i was grimace once for halloween and i did i just got like green or just purple fabric and draped it oh yeah myself it's uh yeah good costume uh yeah i did it for too bit but every time i do, he'll look worse because he's been in a rumpled mess under my bed. And I think it'll just be funnier if I have it in 20 years from now. Because it really will. Grimace was homeless for a little while. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:15 What else? So, after I Just Can't Wait to be King, back to back, you can fly in a whole new world. Both flying sequences, both kind of feel a little like an afterthought i guess he gets tossed around in the clouds a little more they're not not you can fly or in a whole new world you don't get a lot of peter pan time i feel like that gets no short end of the stick you got a little bit of it um but yeah it just it's not a satisfying experience none of this feels satisfying to me it's not the ultimate rendering of these classic moments yeah i'm also i have another question which is why so if this hadn't happened if donald hadn't gone from ip to ip would they are these
Starting point is 01:01:02 characters all just like in a groundhog day loop singing their famous song every day every second well if we're talking about the multiverse in general i think there always is going to be a version of you we're doing like there's a version of us doing this episode forever somewhere what in the multiverse this one one? This specific one. Over and over again. Those poor guys. Yeah. Where this is just a loop there. So, I think I like to think of it like that.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Where it's just he's accessing a timeline in a multiverse where he's getting right to those important moments in those characters' lives. Yep. The most important moment for Aladdin was the magic carpet ride. The most important moment in our lives was talking about the Cadillac cats 45 minutes ago. That's so far my favorite part of this episode.
Starting point is 01:01:54 The ending is Mickey scolds Donald. Donald gets back to the orchestra show. Yeah. Somehow. Mickey scolds him. They do a little bit of music and then the tuba shoots donald back to the back wall of the theater his little butt wiggles and yeah there's a mild animatronic in the back where if you ever looked back in the muffet vision 3d show to see the swedish chef uh projecting or later with a musket.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Yeah. And then a cannon. And then a cannon, yes. Yeah, they use that same space. Here's what I say. And that's fun. I think we all like that. That's like the best thing. Start there.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Start with that. Start with the tuba shooting down into the back and go from there. Sure. It's like Kurt Vonnegut always said, write 15 pages and throw the first 10 in the garbage and your story should start at page 11. So would you go once he gets shot where would you go from there i don't know but i i want to see what happens from that that's like the best part and i wish right i don't know i wish there was more else do you want to see donald's butt show up yeah where is his butt would you want him to be more in the 80s disney movies he shows
Starting point is 01:03:05 up in the rescue on scuttle or no scuttles and little mermaid what's the name of the of the bird and the rescuers we don't know we mentioned this recently and i couldn't remember we talked about a soren that was that but i couldn't and there's two different birds because they it's a benny and lenny the cab situation yeah extremely similar the second one was john candy right and i don't remember the previous yeah i watched rescuers down under a lot and i did not watch the original rescuers a lot because we didn't have it on tape and also i found it scary yeah um so yeah i don't know i just think like all the all the property should come together at the end it should you should see aladdin and with uh you know with lumiere like there's sure there's so
Starting point is 01:03:54 much fun to be had with this type of premise and it's just not delivered and i'm sure that the imagineers whoever were putting this thing together had fun ideas and there was some practical reason why the suits were like we can't do that that's not we we just need the songs that's the cheapest way to do it yeah the answer is the global recession right that's the look we just need it uh all we want to put in is money for the basic 2000 rendering of the characters. We're not paying Jerry Orbach an extra dime. Right. Gilbert Gottfried really stands out, too, that he comes in and just squawks,
Starting point is 01:04:32 and it is such a squawk that doesn't interact with whatever Donald is doing. Right. Even though they had already brought him back for Enchanted Tiki Room under new management, so bring him back again. This thing, I think, florida had a lot of buzz because at the time it was probably cool to see them in like 3d animation i think probably at the time people like oh this is neat we get to see the classics surrendered in a new way but i think in 2019 it's like it's pretty unimpressive it's not bad looking but it's
Starting point is 01:05:07 like yeah okay these are competent cgi versions of the exact same sequences i know yeah okay it's the same song and there's a little donald fun but like it's just the it's like 10 of what the premise is it's nice that i think it's nice that there's something in that theater. Like, as we said, it's nice there's something. Great. California Adventure especially, I feel like, is a park where, like, the really good stuff, there's times where the really good stuff can fill up a little, like, get really long wait times. And you're like, oh, no, what do we do now?
Starting point is 01:05:43 They have less, well, at least this won't have a line yeah so like in that sort of stuff is like monsters inc little mermaid and now this so in that sense it's not but it's nice that there is like a little show and it's bad yeah i think kids if you have kids if you really like these movies like yeah this is fun but i wish that projector was a little brighter like all of these projectors are aging that's what i said before we went in i said because i had seen i had done this in florida a couple years prior and i was like man this 3d is rough on my eyes like hopefully it'll be upgraded for this and i won't hurt as much and no it was not it felt like a magic eye where i would have
Starting point is 01:06:21 to kind of like really focus my eyes to make the 3d work very well like i think there's probably something where they would have to go in and re-render the whole thing in a different type of 3d to make it so it didn't hurt yeah um there's also uh we talk about like cheap and cheaping out a little and uh you know weird retrofitting to a facility that's there um back when this thing opened at disney world in 2003 uh our our pal uh through our ears jim hill uh wrote an article about like here's what you know there's what it could have been and here's why imagineers had to cut corners apparently this was going to debut for the first time anywhere with the 2005 opening of hong kong disneyland
Starting point is 01:07:11 and it was going to be a rare thing like that was so chintzy opening day hong kong disneyland this was going to be a rare thing that is only there here's the first place you can see it but it was they got done with the movie sooner than expected and uh disney world started like they started thinking well can we jam it in there and basically it was going to have a permit there was going to be a premiere in a retrofitted new theater in hong kong disneyland uh with a custom pre-show that would have set the stage for the film that was to follow and because the movie got was on track to get done sooner they said you know we're just going to put it in in orlando and
Starting point is 01:07:50 the lobby whatever we don't have time and no pre-show it does feel like a big a nice pre-show yeah yeah would have helped yeah because there's nothing yeah there's maybe like clouds swirling around so i think this i think there's been a domino effect potentially from that decision from not just letting it be its ultimate version in Hong Kong and building it out from there. But I have something else to say about this Jim Hill article. I'd like to read you the headline of this article from 2003. Go ahead. The headline is, did Disney execs unintentionally slip PhilharMagic a Mickey?
Starting point is 01:08:24 Mr. Hill. Mr. Hill. I don't need to be mike's mom to be offended by that headline well it's not for the salt and pepper shakers on the table because that's a reach um it's a different time 2003 was a different time i thought you know what i thought this opened in orlando in 2008 so that is uh extra bizarre to me that we are in 2019 getting a 60 year old attraction so late so early yeah also yeah that headline doesn't quite if we're really like one to like trying to figure out the analog for the joke it would be like did it i mean i get it that mickey is a is a famous drug you put in someone's drink to knock them out yeah but it should be more it just it should be like i'm not gonna be able to think of the joke but it should be more like cutting it off at the knees or like popped
Starting point is 01:09:19 its tires or something like slowed it down they poisoned poisoned the attraction yeah if we're put it to sleep if we're noting the joke headline yeah and we are and we certainly are we've noted a lot of different ride jokes too over the over the course of the last two years as well the problem with some of these things they're just done and tossed out of the world and nobody expects some nerds to scavenge and analyze it years later but the internet never forgets yeah so i'm looking at you jim hill media article from 2003 i'll come up with it i'll maybe in like a couple months i'll have it i'll have what i think is the better maybe headline for it i guess that's where you got to give him credit a deadline was looming i guess you had to do it it's it's i get it i get publisher jim hill was demanding an article that day jim hill is his
Starting point is 01:10:10 own j jonah jameson so he's got like a voice in his head yelling like you're watching hill yeah well that's how you do you have to be a self-starter and i think we all should sort of have a j jonah jameson in our heads that's your tip for productivity yes have a mustache man yelling at you in your own head of like i gotta get it done we have to have it done by 3 p.m tomorrow get me those pictures i do like that um we're we're like you know we're in an era where people are tweeting you know a lot of uh you know like writery advice and here's how why i think you get a lot of retweets from that like a good you know young writer advice uh put a tiny j jones jameson in your head well editors yeah editors are the first jobs like cut fact checkers and
Starting point is 01:10:59 editors first to go you know at writing places newspapers and magazines imagine a mean old man or a lue green or somebody yeah i could turn i think i could turn this into a full-blown like seminar workshop probably find your inner jay jonah jameson yeah i could fill up arenas and i could do a whole i could have a whole racket out of this probably yeah probably that and get me more pictures of spider-man yeah sure okay but so i mean this has been plugged into california adventure and it's in most of the other parks somewhere uh and also via jim hill there's been discussion and rumors that maybe there is some revamp of this i don't know if you guys caught that but then maybe they do a new edition of philhar magic much like they would do with phantasmic
Starting point is 01:11:52 where they get in you know let it go right because there is you know we need to find one place in the theme park universe where we were let it go can play right um but anyway i mean there's like uh are you potentially excited or about or interested in like all right well i'll pepper in some newer sequences does that do anything does that do anything for me is if it's done like this no not at all it's just it's another like greatest hits With a little bit Keep in mind Donald is still grasping for a hat If he's still grasping for the hat But if he can Let him sing like whatever
Starting point is 01:12:32 That's not how he sounds but let him sing it Like let's see something fun Like that Let's let him get in the story more If that's going to happen then I'm interested Like that's what I want but if it's just gonna be we're gonna hear the exact same version of uh dina menzel singing let it go no thank you pass at the very least let's get more characters i don't even see goofy on this
Starting point is 01:12:57 thing i don't want to just hear goofy he's my favorite yeah yeah i mean i like that let's get something going where i can see my favorites there was that show i think jim and lynn were talking about it pretty recently the mickey mouse clubhouse is that it where like mickey ran a nightclub and all the characters are there like yes oh yeah yeah like that's fun okay sure uh i just like it does seem i want more characters i want more interaction i wanted to interaction i want it to actually feel really specific to my experience at the park and not just like i'm listening to the exact same song sure yeah that's what i'm just laid one new element over something that already existed yeah
Starting point is 01:13:36 um well you know i was thinking if they're gonna put new movies in it's very expected to do frozen or tangled or what have you but in the the many many years since this uh experience was created disney's bought a couple of new movies interesting i mean you got your marvels and you got your pixars but you also have the entire fox archive and i thought well what about you know some of the films that Fox has done in the early 2000s, part of the Fox Films Wikipedia that I looked at? Go ahead. And maybe you could put some of those in, you know, what if what if Donald, you know, like what if the hat ended up on a golf course, giving Donald the opportunity to interrupt a backswing by Bagger Vance. I mean, that.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Sure. What, the famous Bagger Vance song that he'll interrupt? The famous musical number? I did. That was an old video I did also. We were talking about my old things. Oh, yeah. I like that video.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Yeah. You remember that? Yeah. I did a Will Smith Bagger Vance. What's up, y'all? My name is Bagger Vance. What was it? Time to do the Bagger Vance dance. It was the rap he name is bagger vance what was it time to do the bagger vance
Starting point is 01:14:46 dance it was the rap he did for bagger vance yeah yeah if you've done a credits uh sorry uh um there's that guy on twitter who does those all the time it's funnier than what i did yes there you go uh um but you know also he could uh uh you know you could the the hack could go to medieval times you could get caught up in a in the ultimate joust gone wrong with Martin Lawrence's Black Knight. Oh, wow. Sure. You wouldn't love to see Donald interacting with, you know, he could, I mean, scariest. He's already been underwater.
Starting point is 01:15:16 But if you wanted to do a new underwater sequence and, you know, somebody a little less fun than Little Mermaid. What if Donald got stuck in a pool with Swimfan? Don't forget, Disney owns Swimfan. Oh, wow. I'll be honest. I did forget. I think we all forgot. And let's never forget.
Starting point is 01:15:35 We all must remember one thing. It all began with a mouse. And now the mouse owns Swimfan. But don't forget all those Fox animated movies we like. Ice Age. Epic. Can you interrupt? You get to interact with my favorite Steven Tyler's Nimgaloo.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Yeah. I think they are. I'm Nimgaloo. I think Nimgaloo. That is good. I really, that's my favorite so far. Nimgaloo is very small.
Starting point is 01:16:02 He could like sweep up nimgaloo and then donald puts the hat back on he's got nimgaloo crawling around his head that'd be great yeah um and also if you wanted to do you know that corner of the park has uh guardians and monsters after dark if you wanted to do a darker one uh that's just for parents uh well what if the hat flew all the way to france and ended up in the up in the backpack of Maggie Grace right before she's taken by Albanian sex traffickers in the world of Taken? And now you let all the events of Taken play out. But Liam Neeson is after Donald. He's after his daughter, but without knowing it, Donald is stuck in the backpack.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Right. He's trying to get his hat back. That's fun. That's cute. That would make that story cuter. donald maybe he's after his daughter but without knowing it donald is stuck in the backpack right he's trying to get his hat back that's fun that's cute that would make that story cuter and you know you could do that's a perfect excuse for new dialogue as he can grumble about you know albanian sex traffic hopefully do they do they have classic dialogue from that old guy where he says albanian sex trafficker in any of his old cartoons oh maybe he might have just been talking about how he was gonna use one there's also three his personal life there's three takens in one of them liam neeson gets taken oh yeah and uh because there's like a sequence where like the daughter is in the apartment and he tells her where to find a grenade in the apartment and she's like i think it's a flashbang and he's like hold it hold it hold it throw it in the air
Starting point is 01:17:30 because he he can tell by how far away the poppet like how far away the explain he can like tell like okay uh that was that far it sounded that far. I've been in a car for five minutes. So this is the mile radius I've been in. Why haven't I watched the other Takens? Yeah, I haven't seen them. So maybe Donald could be the one getting taken. Sure. Or doing the phone call.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Like, have that duck quack. Make him quack. I'll listen to the quack and listen to the echo and the reverberation. I have a very specific set of skills. Yeah, let him do it. I will find you and I will kill you. That's, I mean, that's great. That's obviously more than they want to do, though, with these moves.
Starting point is 01:18:13 I'm just saying, keep your expectations low for the PhilharMagic story. It will all have to be with pre-recorded Liam Neeson dialogue. It has to be, the characters have to have said the things they said before and have to be reused, I think. Unless they go all out. I hope they do. I hope he gets taken and sees Bagger Vance. I hope that does happen. Every one of these, yes. And when Liam Neeson saves
Starting point is 01:18:36 him, he can say, oh boy. My Donald's getting there. I just don't want to blow out the pipes. All I can do is That's it. That's much better than what I did. But I can't talk like that. I can just talk want to blow out the pipes. All I can do is a... That's it. That's much better than what I did. But I can't talk like that. I can just talk.
Starting point is 01:18:48 No, I can't do that. I don't think I can do the duck trick. Yeah, that's it. All right. Well, those are great ideas for plussing this thing up. But hey, since we got a little extra to this, this is finally a topic where we don't require two and a half hours minimum. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:05 We can do something we haven't done in a very long time which is souvenir show down we've had a couple of these in the smackdown it's been long enough we don't know nobody's really holding us to the fire souvenirs smackdown yeah I'm surprised I got
Starting point is 01:19:22 that close I got half of it the classic segment which I'm now told is called souvenir smackdown yeah i'm surprised i got that close i got half of it um the classic segment which i'm now told is called souvenir smackdown i think uh we all go on to ebay and we try to find the oddest piece of disney or universe or theme park merch in general that we can possibly find and we'll have each other guess what we think that would or should cost. Who thinks they have the least weird one? I think I do. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Yours, famously, the first one you did was not weird at all. No, not weird at all. What was it? I don't remember. It was something where we were at Orange Bird, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think it was weird. It was um an inflator a children's inflatable pool toy with the orange bird on it i went and found an actual interesting thing as opposed to
Starting point is 01:20:12 an kind of an oddball okay so let's see what would so this one but the thing that has uh always uh struck me uh with this uh with the ebay culture in general is the massive uh price you know how how the way the price can fluctuate on sure so uh this is i have a picture here to show you tomorrowland opening day disneyland classic cup collectible 1998 so this is from the infamous Tomorrowland redo. I'll show you that. Okay. Oh no, it hurts.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Souvenir plastic cup. Okay. Sort of a gold steam, punky top. Yes. Okay. Um, how much do you think this sells for?
Starting point is 01:21:00 Well, let me ask you this. What did you check? Um, is it what's how it's listed or have you checked and seen that the same thing has actually sold for the money how what it is currently listed i see okay um because sometimes i do see things that are listed as like a thousand dollars and if you search for the same thing and sold it's sold for much less or there's nothing else there's
Starting point is 01:21:22 no precedent even for it so it feels like people are just guessing yeah um i'm gonna guess that is three hundred dollars okay scott um then i maybe i gotta go higher to make it crazier 450 dollars well gentlemen i'm here to tell you that you have any number of choices of how much you want to pay. You can pay $32. You can pay $89.99. You can pay $1,000. You can pay $125 if you just want to buy the topper. For the same product, you can find it listed numerous times on eBay for any price you could imagine. So that's okay.
Starting point is 01:22:03 So do this real quick. Search for it and hit sold items completed items and it'll show you exactly how much it's been selling for actually sold i mean so you can get with the actual the prices that you tend to see the most tend to be about 24.99 okay so somebody was getting like that's a reasonable price so that's probably how much it was this one listing when i first found it was 199.99 so that was 200 they they're the ones who came down to 89.99 and that one comes with a collectible coin oh which i actually think you should just sell on its own sure sure might go for something yeah
Starting point is 01:22:41 so uh without a coin people are trying to sell this for. That's wild. Like close to a hundred bucks more. Or a thousand bucks. Whatever price your heart desires, you can find this listing. I really want to pay a thousand dollars for this. I thought it was very strange. This thing that it seems like a lot of people are like, yes, I have this opening day for
Starting point is 01:23:02 New Tomorrowland sort of thing and I'm going to flip it. And there's just a dozen or more people with the same thought. And I will have this item for sale next to it, the same item that costs a hundred times less. I bet I could get one of these for $17. Oh, you can also, there's other listings for just the topper. If you just want the top of that bottle. If you just want the straw. Are you thinking about getting it?
Starting point is 01:23:30 Not really. Okay. It's not a thing I have affection for. Okay. I think I was just, I don't even remember how I found it searching around. Sure. And then I just couldn't not find it. I just kept finding pages of it.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Right. I think everyone needs to send them to you. Yeah. If somebody has one that you would send to Jason of it. Right. I think everyone needs to send them to you. Yeah. If somebody has one that you would send to Jason for free. Sure. Is that a good hydraulic fluid holder? Actually, I'll say that. It does look like it holds a lot of liquid, so it would be good for storing hydraulic fluid.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Right. Well, that's great. All right, you two, tell me about your weird ones. Well, yeah, you want me to go for it? I think so, yeah, go for it. I'm pretty pleased with this, and I'm pretty pleased that, you know, we talked about doing this months ago, and I'm really happy that it's still up there. And I think you guys will recognize it when I spin it around and show you.
Starting point is 01:24:22 But first, let me read the title of the item which is hard rock theme park mick jagger rolling stones lip statue artwork look at this guy no pretty familiar eh we know him from hard rock park it's a statue that's lips and the teeth are piano keys and a big gross tongue sticking out of it and weird mismatchy legs. One's in like a kiss boot and one's in a more of a Disney shoe with tiger striped socks. It is one of those bizarre sculptures that was created for Hard Rock Park and it is just up on eBay. Very small description. Rockin' Lips Statue. it is just up on on ebay um very small description uh rockin lips statue unusual rockin lips statue from hard rock theme park wow this fiberglass masterpiece of artwork is 11 feet wide 12 feet
Starting point is 01:25:15 deep and 7 feet tall great attention grabber for a business concert halls theme parks or or amusement parks very different wow designed after legendary mick jagger call for shipping information um maybe less the description not super interesting but um it is you would go to pick it up in georgetown south carolina uh and it is a an odd user on ebay uh called poe boys discount which otherwise is just selling like industrial kitchen equipment like they're like they have like you know like a flash fryer or uh their most recent item put up today is a uh a memorial a a souvenir bottle of popcorn kernels from uh something called Studebaker's Myrtle Beach. So go to Po'boy's discount if you want a Mick Jagger lip statue, but also, you know, a electric thermo food finishing oven for $400.
Starting point is 01:26:17 It's weird. I don't know why they ended up with this. So what you're saying is they have a warehouse. Yeah. They have a warehouse to hold bulk goods. That's all bizarre kitchen bullshit, which might be useful if you're trying to start a restaurant in the Carolinas. There also may have been a lot, like an auction lot that they bought from Hard Rock Park. This might all have been used.
Starting point is 01:26:40 This might all have been. That's a good point. All of those weird, all those barbecues or whatever. Actually, their second most expensive item, the Cleveland Tilt Skillet. It's a braising skillet.
Starting point is 01:26:50 It makes soups and the large yield can produce 40 gallons. So, if you want 40 gallons of soup, go to Po' Boys Discount. But would you guys
Starting point is 01:27:00 like to put a ballpark on what you might purchase that for? Five grand. Jason? Yeah, I was thinking around there, too. I'll go higher. I'll go 10 grand, asking.
Starting point is 01:27:11 It's a little bit lower, but you're closer in the over-under. It's $8,000 is what it's going for. Could pay $385 for the next 24 months. Did everyone go like, oh, the Mick Jagger statue? When you guys think about Hard Rock Park and you think about that statue, do you immediately go like, oh, Mick Jagger? No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:28 No. It actually feels more Steven Tyler-y to me with the big tongue. It does feel, yeah. It also just feels like a little generic, like rock and roll, you know, with the lips and the tongue wagging, rock and roll, baby. Yes, yes. That rock and roll divorced from all known rock and roll sort of thing. From the way anyone actually listens to rock and roll divorced from all known rock and roll from the way anyone actually
Starting point is 01:27:45 listens to rock and roll uh no but apparently they are i take that description to mean they are scientifically exactly structured to mick jagger's actual lips um so there you go wow piece of hard rock park history it never stops the tale of hard rock park never stops unfolding when we have binkowski on maybe he just has a couple lying around oh man give us one each one yeah statue that's what i'm hoping for um all right mike okay so there this is probably a full episode if i really want to deep dive which probably people would say we're good but uh let me show well okay let me describe what this is first and then i'll show you what it looks like uh rare vtg 1950 sterling silver choco the birthday clown wishing ring disneyland choco the birthday clown and let me show you what the ring looks like here it is
Starting point is 01:28:47 i have it on the tv uh here he is he's choco the birthday clown and now that didn't work how i wanted it to now you might say uh i get so many notifications from disney. So when I put my phone. So that's Choco. Here's the thing. Choco is a real clown. He died about 10 years ago. He was a local Los Angeles clown. And he had a TV show where kids would celebrate their birthday. Oh. And like it was a long waiting list to get on Choco's TV show.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Like a five-year waiting list to celebrate your birthday On Choco's show And Choco not only Actually no I should put that Actually back up Choco not only Has this wishing ring that they Would give out at Disneyland He also and this comes with it Was the menu
Starting point is 01:29:40 For a restaurant At Disneyland What? So Gourneyland children's plates oh children love grilled filet of hot sliced roast turkey broiled lamb chop ground round steak patty jello and cream 25 cents what the fuck is bib juices bib juices no idea pear and cottage cheese salad roll i mean hamburger in a bun with catsup yes this isn't says copyright 1961 and it's the happiest clown in town it says and choco's face is on the other side and it's terrifying yes well wait go back go back i think i know the menu is a mask. The menu is also a mask.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can wear Choco's face. You can wear Choco's face. Look, there's eye holes. And here is a headshot of Choco. On KABC7, our local affiliate. Choco the birthday clown. So Choco was a local LA children's performer who had a Disneyland presence?
Starting point is 01:30:42 Yes, that is correct. That's why I'm saying Patreon exclusive Choco. We have to learn about Choco. We have to learn about Choco. Now, you might say, please, can you play me Choco's theme song? And the answer is yes, I can. How many months have you been sitting on this? Many months.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Oh, my God. His name was Randy Runyon, I believe was the man's name. And here is his theme song. The Heir to the Canyon Fortune. Too much echo. i hate you choco so there's choco he was a legend in los angeles choco so choco yeah did you find out more about his disneyland presence that's what i that's what i have it's i'm trying to figure out what restaurant it was and i can't it's not easily accessible for me here i should have done more i honestly i forgot to look we're gonna be like like uh the
Starting point is 01:31:58 who's the reporter in zodiac we're gonna be like at the la times building asking to see their micro fish like sorry we're trying to figure out chucco we've almost got the whole picture put put together here's the uh i'm finding there's a oh disneyland hotel is where the restaurant was oh weird so that that's a little that's kind of why it wasn't uh right not in the park not in the park but they did essentially have a mall built into the disneyland hotel for a long time and he would uh open the coverage of the santa claus lane parade the hollywood boulevard christmas parade which still happens to this day he would bust through a big drum and bow and salute that'd be the beginning of the tv coverage uh he also made a lot of appearances at supermarkets and shopping centers.
Starting point is 01:32:46 He'd pull into, say, the Topanga Plaza, my childhood mall, and there'd be thousands of people as far as you could see. Thousands of people would show up. He was very popular, it sounds like. Yeah. Totally missed this guy. Chucko. Chucko. He was at Disney.
Starting point is 01:33:04 He opened. Wait a minute he after leaving television he opened chucko's party house at jungle land in thousand oaks what's any of that i don't know what that is we got history of where i grew up i don't know about jungle land or chucko's party house that's why you we gotta do it we got that's what i said we gotta got to do it. Patreon on Choco's party house. This is this. He may have died a few years ago, but like they say, nothing stays dead forever. No. Choco will rise.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Choco does feel like this feels like the start of a Stephen King work. If we wanted to find out more about Choco, we the by his biography written by uh his his widow millie the biography from 1994 which is called our clowns hatched this is terrifying maybe halloween patreon oh no i'm too scared we don't all love haunts now mike yeah i don don't want to go to Chucco's party house. Would you rather go to Halloween Horror Nights or go to Chucco's? Well, luckily I can't go to... I'll talk about Chucco's party house, but if it was still there, I wouldn't want to go there.
Starting point is 01:34:17 And I don't want to go to wherever it used to be. It's haunted. It for sure is haunted. Where is he buried? Oh, my under this apartment. Okay. Oh, no. Mike's pulling off his face.
Starting point is 01:34:30 No. To reveal Choco's face. Choco. He was always a local clown. He's shoving bib juice down our throats. I gotta figure out what bib juice. It's weird I don't know what bib juice is. I'll say that.
Starting point is 01:34:43 For the bib juice episode. For sure you drink bib juice. You just don't know it. What does it mean? I don't know what bib juice is. I'll say that. For sure you drink bib juice. You just don't know it. What does it mean? I don't know. It sounds to me like if your bib caught all of the various foods that have spilled on you as a baby and then it was all combined into a mush. Yeah, maybe. Maybe it's like all the kitchen's droppings.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Hold on. Like ground up. Is it? toppings like ground up is it is it a name for like it looks like it might be a name for the juices that are coming bags that are put in boxes and you put the boxes in the dispenser like maybe do you know what i'm talking about like if you ever look at a restaurant like next to the soda fountain there's the juice dispenser okay those are boxes and those are industrial boxes filled with bags of juice why would you buy that is why would you sell it as that juice we'll look at there'll be a patreon on bib juices too i'm very unsettled do you want
Starting point is 01:35:37 to guess how much that oh we forgot about that plus the i burnt the menu and the headshot. That's a lot of stuff. If you're a Choco fan, that's invaluable. Let me get $600. Jason? I'll say $100. $425. $4.25? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:35:58 $425. So I win the over-under. So Scott wins that. Wow. For all that Choco memorabilia. That doesn't mean that I have to have it now that means that i've you've bid on it with six hundred dollars you offered six hundred you you want it that's where oh yeah so these are like hotels the orange juice dispenser machine i guess is known
Starting point is 01:36:16 um in the beverage industry as bib juice don't throw that beverage industry insider shit at me. Yeah, I don't. Tell me on your menu what it is, Choco. Even Ground Round is an old food. There used to be a chain of restaurants called the Ground Round. Yeah, we used to go. That's the only way I know. It was like an early Bennigan's, TGI Friday's kind of place. They would bring you popcorn instead of bread. Fresh popped, buttery popcorn.
Starting point is 01:36:44 I like that. Yeah. Free bib juice. The ring was not a mass produced item. The woman who's selling her aunt worked at Pars, which is a jewelry company at this time, and told me they were commissioned for a celebrity's child's
Starting point is 01:37:00 birthday party and were given out as party favors to the children who attended. There were only 50 ordered and the extras were returned back for credit so this is a real hardcore choco was this celebrity arrested and put away where they could never doesn't mention that never terrified children again the extras were returned back for credit because the people who received them died mysteriously soon after wait a minute check his fingers it's the ring again the ring again the dozenth kid this month i yeah so so all right so this might be one of our greatest discoveries on this podcast choco i think this is another we have to
Starting point is 01:37:47 look into a lot of different ip purchasing like marvel mcfay of course famously and other characters you mean that we own the rights so we would be able to control marvel mcfay and like licensed movies metal family metal family choco and i think choco i'm sure the family owns the intellectual property on choco but perhaps that's something we look into when one of us takes over the mantle of choco jason are you interested you pointed at me so fast i'll be choco if you won't i will take over as choco i will declare that but if you want choco i'm willing to give it to you i mean if my country is asking me to serve by which i mean mean being Choco, and if the curse
Starting point is 01:38:27 is not giving me any choice. Well, maybe it is. Maybe it's more like the Harry Potter wand and the Choco. When we get the ring, it'll choose one of us. Yeah, it's not going to fit all three of us. And obviously, because Jason and I are both willing, it's of course going to choose Scott and Scott will have to become Choco. No, I'm a host
Starting point is 01:38:45 it's a parasite that you're gonna buy that mask you're gonna take it out of the envelope and it's gonna come to life and press itself against my face and be my face yep and you will hear and my blood will become bib juice and podcast the ride will be hosted by mike, Jason, and Choco. I'm more fun than Scott was. The ratings go through the roof. America loves Choco. Sorry, Scott. You're always missing something. You are, unfortunately, Harvey Dent,
Starting point is 01:39:15 and Choco is Batman. Choco is the hero we need, but you are the hero we deserve. Unfortunately, Choco. If I can fight it off, and Choco only takes over half of my face, then it's exactly the Harvey Tencent. Well, what if you were two-faced with the Choco?
Starting point is 01:39:30 Oh, no. Wow. I want wine. No, you want Bim Juice. Oh, man. It's hosted by the next episode we'll start with. It's a podcast hosted by two theme park fans and one man whose face was half taken over by a clown mask.
Starting point is 01:39:49 And he airs out his soul's inner grievances in every episode. I feel like fan art is really called for right now. I have to say. Oh, no. I'll only look at half of it. Scott Two-Face says Choco. Well, Scott, how are you fighting Choco today? I'm filled a barrel with bib juice. I'm
Starting point is 01:40:07 trying to age it into Sauvignon Blanc. In seven years the bib juice will be sweet wine again. That is the end of it. Stop it. Stop, Choco. Aaron's my wife now. No! You stay away from her uh she is also unfortunately choco
Starting point is 01:40:31 no not similar to the boy our clowns had you taken over the rune of the rings leapt into her ear and crawled into her brain and made her choco oh she's choco now oh this is no longer the philhar magic episode episode it is the choco i never thought i'd miss the philhar magic episode so much oh god we barely survived podcast the ride i'm gonna have bad dreams forever i almost choked to death trying to do a bad Donald. This was a harrowing one. Yeah, really. And go to patreon.com slash podcast the ride where eventually, unfortunately. There will be a Choco episode.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Hey, meet me there. I'm Choco. I'm Choco. Scott's Choco. Scott's Choco. Oh, no. Stop it. I'm getting out of here.
Starting point is 01:41:25 If you want to plug anything else, do it yourself. All right. Well, you go to all of our stuff, Podcast the Ride Instagram. You can email us, Podcast the Ride Gmail. We're on Twitter at Podcast the Ride. Email spam. That's what I want. I want viruses.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Classic Choco. We have shirts at Tee Public, but we may have to add a Choco shirt An unlicensed Choco shirt We have to ask the family if that's okay To do some Choco merch Scott O, Chuck Scott Once you put the shirt on you can never take it off The shirt will become one with you
Starting point is 01:41:58 You will laugh like that forever Honestly it's a better way to live And just a reminder to all our listeners Sometimes dead is better. Sometimes you don't want to bury the Choco ring in the pet cemetery. That's true. So I think, yeah,
Starting point is 01:42:13 that we're good. See you later. See you later. In your dreams. Forever. Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gairdner,
Starting point is 01:42:29 Brett Boehm, Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey. Engineered and mastered by Alex Arche. For more original podcasts, please visit foreverdogpodcast.com and subscribe to our shows on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keep up with the latest Forever Dog news by following us on Twitter and Instagram at Forever Dog Team and liking our page on Facebook.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.