Podcast: The Ride - Mike Loves Haunts 2022 with Charles Rogers

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

Charles Rogers (Search Party) returns to the show as Mike goes on his annual haunt tour. We talk Knott's Scary Farm, Halloween Horror Nights and Charles' trip to Fright Fest. Island Under Siege episode up at Crypt 3: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! of our own Mike Carlson. Why does he love douchey Vegas pool parties? Is he a fast boy? Search party creator Charles Rogers joins our psychic evaluation, but one fact is unimpeachable. Mike loves haunts on Hauntcast the Fright, the Scream Park podcast where the three ghost hosts delight

in saying the names of obscure scare actors from the 1960s. I'm Spike Bro-blo-blood-rid-son. Joining me as always, Jason Skeleton. Hi. You were nailing it until whatever burp-burp-burp-son. Was that on purpose? Was that part of it? It wasn't really on purpose.

I wrote it down, and as I was reading it, I went, I didn't say this out loud. You want to do kind of a take two just to let people know how it was in your head? I guess I should have said spike like red blood red sun or something. I should have kind of grumbled it or growled it like a monster. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

This is the voice of, what was yours? This year I'm trying out Scott Gravedigner. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. This is the voice of, what was yours? This year I'm trying out Scott Gravedigner. Okay. But anyone can veto that. No, I'm all right with it right now. If one person says they don't like it, then it's out. Yeah. No, I'm good with that.

All right. So, no, I guess, I feel like I've never found one I like with my last name. No, not me either, in particular. Yeah, Jason Skeleton is perfect. Yes. Yeah, I like that my last name. Not me either, in particular. Jason Skeleton is perfect. Yes. Yeah, I like that one a lot. You're locked in. You're locked in. It gives us something to look forward to in the future.

A reason to keep going. This could end this year, but we need to get the scary names. I don't have a fun name for the guest, and I'm realizing this, but we'll bring him. We'll figure it out. We'll workshop it. Things have already done Charles as Gnarlles but that's true yeah famous band already yeah he's the co-creator of search party until it's deleted off the hbo max servers by david

but for now he is still the co-creator this is charles rodgers returning to podcast the ride thank you for having me i char Lee Ray. Is there something there? That's the Chucky man. That's the Chucky man. Yeah, the Chucky man. The guy, the killer's name is Charles Lee Ray in Chucky. Who inhabits the doll.

Who inhabits the doll. Oh, that's the real guy. You're revealing yourself to have never seen Chucky. Who inhabits the doll. Oh, that's the real guy. You're revealing yourself to have never seen Chucky. No, well, God, I think I have. That's one of those scared the hell out of me as a kid. The idea of it. The very notion of it. And my wife had a whole thing with it

where she wouldn't watch trailers at all until she was like 12 years old. Because she mistakenly saw Child's Play 2, the trailer, in a theater. So she had to go to every movie late for like many, many years. So it's a scary name to invoke in this house, but not the murderer's name who I don't. So you could be Charles Lee Ragers to tie it in. That's good.

It's impeccable. Great, great. You plunk it up a little more and then it into. That's good. It's impeccable. Great, great. It might be the best. You plunk it up a little more and then it becomes. It's the best of all four of these, I think. Wow. So, yeah, we're in the holiday spirit here, I guess. You would say holiday spirit for Halloween.

Yeah, I'm Christmas. What are you? Thanksgiving? Thanksgiving, yeah. Cool. Jason? Arbor Day? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We need that more now than ever. Yeah. That's right, yeah. Cool. Jason? Hmm. Arbor Day? Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. We need that more now than ever. Yeah. That's right, Charles. You got it. Columbus Day. I don't care.

Oh, no. Oh, my goodness. All right. Oh, my goodness. Everybody listen. I got some stuff to say. Get out of here. Is this an episode of Gutfeld?

Oh, man. No, it's a soprano. He's taking more of like a Silvio and Pauly Walnut's angle on like, gotta protect Columbus Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a bad tradition. Yeah, it's a bad tradition. My Italian roots.

And we're going to get to the SoCal haunts, of course, because it's Hauntcast of Fright and the spirits are out and we're loving the season. And Mike loves haunts. And I love haunts. That's why we're here. Last year, Mike loves haunts with a question mark because I didn't do an escape room involving a minotaur.

Now, I wish I had a report to tell everyone that I have done the minotaur. I've conquered it because I had a panic attack last year putting on a mask and this whole thing. And I just couldn't, my brain melted down before we started. It wasn't because of the scary man in the minotaur outfit, which I said on the episode, once the lights were on,

look like shit, not the case. That was, I was not afraid of it, but I was just like, I sort of had a panic, like sort of a mask panic and like a claustrophobia panic. And I sat out,

I tapped out in front of everybody humiliating. I haven't been this humiliated since high school. People you respect and admire, I feel. Sure, yeah. Of course. Good friends. I don't know why I'm reminding you. No one's invited me to anything since. I look like a fool. Industry execs.

People who have given you jobs. David Zaslav. I'll give you the never delete deal right now for any shows that you ever pitch. Yeah, he was there, but I know I made a fool of myself. Anyway, I have not conquered the Minotaur yet. It's not going to be this year. I'm trying not to give a baby COVID. That's really what the mission is right now.

So I probably shouldn't be in an escape room trying to conquer a Minotaur. But running through a haunted house is fine. And you had a mask on. Yes, exactly. With a mask on. I had a gator on over the mask. Ran through that thing. I barely breathed while I was in there.

I didn't see you breathe once. Yeah, so. You're in the clear. Wow. Wow. You did it right. Well, so what is being proven here is that you love haunts. And so you fought through that you're very busy and you're very sleep deprived.

That's true, yes. You still went to do the haunts that you love as of two years ago, I think. Yes. Now, Jason and I have made no, I don't want to say we've made no progress, because I think maybe we don't have interest in making progress. Well, I've been watching more scary movies. Scott is at least steadfast in his feeling that he's never going to do any of this. Jason, I won't say lies to me every year, but definitely sort of suggests that he's going to. I don't lie to you. I mean, this year I told you I was like, oh, my knee has gotten a lot more flexible, a lot looser lately, but it's still kind of uncomfortable long walking.

That's true. And crowds are not ideal. It kind of is an anxiety source walking around in crowds. But I understand that. I'm working on it. I have sympathy for that as well. But I said, you know, you could do one maze, and then you could go on that log ride, that Timber Mountain log ride with the famous band that we like.

The Calico Creepers? It was amazing. Mike took me on that for the first time. I had never been on that before. Oh, jeez. Oh, great. I've been to Notts Scary Farm before, but never done the Calico. Wait, is that what it's called? Calico Mine Train?

No, that was the Timber Mountain log ride. Okay, okay. We're getting there. So, Jason, you're saying you're watching movies now to prepare yourself for next year. Yes. What are you watching? I watched Get Out last week. I couldn't remember if I had ever seen it all the way through.

It was very good. I watched it a few days after Pinocchio and a few days before The Munsters. So it was like an oasis in the desert basically such a well well-made movie directed written acted and then uh the others some others yeah i saw the monsters well i saw the first 15 minutes of the monsters as a joke and then we were like we actually can't do this and then we fast-forwarded to elvira oh yeah that's the end of the movie. And then we were like, let's watch the end credits. That's what I should have done, mate.

Yeah, we covered it on the Patreon. And I tapped out at 38 minutes. Some people have expressed dislike of this. Some people are upset with you. Yeah, I think. It feels insane to me. Some people sent us messages of like, that you shouldn't get the money from the patriots somebody said that you shouldn't get we should take jason i should take all the money interesting idea hang on a minute there is no deal in place that says that

the name of the episode being a movie requires all three hosts to finish the movie charles is a not a witness but you can uh second that it's a very difficult thing to get through don't bring me into any of this shit I don't know who these people are that are coming for you I don't know who their parents are well you know I'm just going to get into the bank account right now and cash out before this shit goes any further

when I have COVID you're like no cash no cash if you ain't on some episodes you don't see that green. No cash. No cash. No cash. No cash.

I rushed. How many can we record before Jason's back? You dock your pay. I dock your pay sometimes when you don't say as much as I do on an episode. I count you by the word. I always worry I talk too much. So that is a confusing statement to me. I don't know.

I don't know that you talk too much on the show. I think you leave people wanting more. Yeah, I agree. In the best way possible. You always got to leave them wanting more. I agree. Thank you, Charles. You gave me such nice compliments the last time you were on.

You've talked a little too much just to let you know right now. Oh, okay. You were just there. You were in the pocket. See? I did. I gave you all really nice compliments last time. Yeah.

Mixed up your names. Yeah. Well, so speaking of last time, I just want to talk about this real quick. You gave us a very nice gift. All three of us received a copy of a prequel novel about the character Claire Deering from Jurassic World. A thick hardcover book. Something studied in colleges.

Yeah. And we all got our own copy, too. We each got our own copy of it. Amazing. Three of us are bad. Well, two of us are bad readers. Scott and I are bad readers. Jason's actually the best reader of the three of us.

And I'm a pretty slow reader. And he's a slow reader. But I needed to at least peruse this before you came back. Can I ask if you've read it? I never bought it for myself. I was just being the teacher, not the student. You'll read Cliff Notes

before you have to administer the test. And I did not read every word. I will say that. But this is a story about Claire Dearing. Bryce Dallas Howard from the Jurassic World series. It's about her internship. It's written by her. Yeah, from her perspective.

It's a go ask Alice. There's a woman behind the woman. Exactly. God, I hope it turns out better for Claire. I mean, it doesn't because dinosaurs are after her eventually. Yeah, well, it's an age-old American debate. Would you rather be on tons of drugs that scare you or dinosaurs, JC? I'm just going to give a real quick book report about it.

Claire is an idealistic, like wanting to save the planet type. And over the course of the book, she's kind of turned cold into the cold businesswoman we know, Claire Dearing. You remember how she is in the movies. Yeah. All white. Heels that click-clack really loud. That's what a cold person wears. Yeah.

No time for her nephews. Yes, that's right. If you're not time for her nephews. That's right. If you're not close to your nephews, something's fucked up about you. And that family should be mad at an aunt who pays for nephews to go to an island and then doesn't have time for them because she has a job.

Now you learn that her love, another intern, and I'm forgetting his name already, he is killed. There's some sort of nonsense with a raptor that comes onto the island, and he's killed. There's also a murder mystery of a different intern that is uncovered by Claire Dearing. It's a 400-plus page novel. With multiple plots.

That's enough time for multiple plots. Multiple new characters. There's not even as many, you would think that the Owen character, the Chris Pratt character, which no, he doesn't show, they meet for the first time, I believe, in Jurassic World.

I don't even believe, this was a question last time I asked all three of you, and I wonder if you know, I don't think there's even a mention of the character Lowry Crothers. Right. Now I have a question for mention of the character Lowry Crothers. Right. Now I have a question for you.

Who is Lowry Crothers? Does anyone want to answer this? This is the start of our last episode. I asked everybody this question. Oh, I got it right last time. Charles might. Wow, really? Oh, we've done this before?

Lowry Crothers? This has happened before and this will happen again. We'll say. We have a term now. It's five timers. If we've ever told the story more than once. If we've ever told it two times, it rounds up to being a five timer. Is Larry Crothers, is that Jake Johnson's character?

That is correct. Okay. Now, that was a much faster time than last time because everyone guessed wrong. We had a bunch of different answers. Yeah. You asked Charles if it was Scatman Crothers. Now, that was a much faster time than last time, because everyone guessed wrong. We had a bunch of different answers. Yeah. You asked Charles if it was Scatman Crothers. Right, right. So that is not who that is.

Scatman Crothers, Lowick Brothers. No, it's... In the Smothers Brothers reading. Anyway, that's basically the book. That's the gist of the book. It's a 400-page YA novel about Claire. It's a Claire Deering mystery. I mean, imagine if the CEO of Pixar's book was like about a murder mystery in

his own life. Well, another intern has died mysteriously. Well, off of that, I do want to say not to jump the gun, but I do have presents for, Oh my God.

I have two times running. Because Mike and I went without Scott and Jason. Oh, my God. What's wrong with me? And Jason. Yes. I decided to make it feel like bring the not scary farm to you. Wow.

Wow. I wonder, is it a jam? Yes. Broad Preserve. Yes. Wow. Hey. Thank you.

Oh, beautiful. Now this is a scary... Wait a minute, wait a minute. There's something scary in it. I was going to say, it doesn't look... It's not just regular. There's a scary element inside. Should this be filmed, perhaps? Is it a bunch of snakes?

The snakes pop out? Jason, open it up. There's just like pubes in here. Oh, I'm sad. I did trim recently. Well, they're like. There's just like pubes in here. Oh, no, I see. Well, they're like, it's strawberry. What's in it? God, Charles, what's in it? It's terrifying.

Oh, there's a mouse skeleton. There's an eyeball in yours. I got an eyeball. And you got an eyeball. Oh, God. You both have eyeballs? They were not careful on the farm this week. Oh, my gosh.

Wow. Oh, and it's dripping. This is very disturbing. You've given us the first in-person surreal scary image of a mouse skull dripping goo.

This is what you're missing. This kind of excitement. This adventure. They're not going to sleep for a few nights. I know. What you've done here. But you're right.

We have to bring the scares to them. This is the whole philosophy is that these guys need to be scared constantly in their own homes from here on out. I'm scared, but I'm also relieved because I'm almost out of jam. So as long as you sort of trust where the eyeball was before its insertion. You could kind of take the top slice off in general. It just could go towards the bottom. Now you're going to do the whole thing. He doesn't give a shit.

Scott, are you kidding me? This guy ate soup after me once. He doesn't care. I ate Burger King for dinner. Yes, he ate a bisque from Disneyland after me. I don't remember. Yeah, where were we? We were at Disneyland,

and there was like a bisque I was drinking, and I remember like, did I get two of them accidentally or something? Maybe I drank a little of it. I was like, I'm full. I can't have this. And I go, do you want this? And you're like, yes.

And you start drinking it. And I was like. Oh, yeah, because I want to try the bisque. Yeah. I was trying to decide. This is a drinking bisque. Yeah, that's an odd part of bisque. I guess you would eat soup, eat a bisque.

Yeah, yeah. But it's liquid, so you do drink it. In a yard. You slurp it. Yeah, in a yard. You got the tall boy. If you go to Yard House over here in downtown Burbank, you can get a yard of tomato bisque.

On the seasonal menu? Yeah. You want a lager or you want a bisque? Two half of Isons and a pint of bisque, please. For my girlfriend. Thank you. This is so great. You really have horrified the podcast for the first time in this or any of the Octobers.

Because now I'm like, I'm covered in goo. I know. You really went for it. Fluid. You got to lick your fingers. That's the only solution. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah.

Mouse goo. That's gross. This is great. You did it successfully. And this is like the sort of thing where like, maybe in a maze you would end up with something sticky on you and you just have to you imagine what it could be even though hopefully it's just preserves that's true there was there have been a couple mazes this year where there were sticky things oh god sometimes i feel like it's accidental like it was painted and like the paint shouldn't this shouldn't be the paint they

used or those things that you have to like the viney things you have to go through that have a silicone-y, then there's something a little sticky about that. Yeah, yeah, they used the wrong polymer or something. Yeah, the wrong polymer. That was my favorite maze. Dr. Polymer. So basically, because Jason, we can believe him or not when it comes to the knees and the anxiety. Well, the knees are real.

It's clear to me so far. Well, the knees are real, and Mike has known me since 2009. He's watched the decay. Okay, okay, sure. I'm just attacking Jason. It's Halloween. I'm just attacking him. There could be more gooey things all over you.

You never know. The people around you are joking in the way that you worry everyone around you actually thinks about you. The scariest Halloween of all. The scariest. I'm not making any progress on this. You needed somebody to do a haunt with you. You needed a haunt. And you didn't want it to be your tiny daughter.

No, not yet. You and Charles. Yeah, rope her right in. She can hold her head up on her own. That's when the babies. When she can smile, she'll be able to see the brand new smile maze. That's right, yes. It's teaching so many babies to smile.

That's right. You found a friend. You guys, we did this trip and I haven't heard anything about it. So you did not Scary Farm. We did not Scary Farm together, yes. We separately did Halloween Horror Nights. But yes, we did Scary Farm. We did it on opening night.

It was very fun. A very fun time. I felt very VIP. I got to be part of the media elite. Full disclosure, we were part of the media elite that night. And then my friend Bobby, who I brought along, was not. Well, yes, we felt bad we only had two vip passes essentially to that allowed us access to all the hottest areas of the park uh and i'm not

trying to brag here but you know when you get when you're at the media elite like we are yeah there's gonna be some steam trays set out for you yeah and yeah, you're going to get as much of those somewhat boiled potatoes as you want. I had some mac and cheese balls and they had an ice luge that was in the shape of some sort of gremlin-y thing

and then they would pour your drink down. And the drink, we agreed, if we're allowed to speak disparagingly about the hand that feeds us. Well, we want to say thank you for all this stuff. Okay, never mind. Sorry. But then we can say the first drink you had, I think this is where you're going with this, right?

The first drink you had was maybe the sweetest thing anybody could put in their mouth. Yeah. But I have since thought about how grateful I am that you knew what I was talking about. Because there is a smell in LA that's. that's only in L.A. buildings, like interiors. It's like a sweet mildew. In my mind, I'm like, it's probably asbestos. But it's all over L.A. And it's like if you go to like a meeting on like a lot or like the Gaylord Apartments, like those old school L.A. places.

It's a sweet. Start clocking it, America. Okay. Okay, okay. Which lot? What lot smells like this? If I ever go on a lot again. In my mind, it's Paramount. You know, it's any place that has the sort of old school 20s. Yeah, okay, okay.

Not some sweet fox situation. Yeah, and it's a very specific, almost like mothballs, but the drink, it tasted like that. Yeah, that one wasn't as good the other ones were good and the beer was good i went to this weird tasting event there and i didn't stay around long as i had something else to do so i i quickly consumed a drink that was a in a syringe like it was kind of like that like preserves or mouse goo in a syringe and it was

unclear well either you could like shoot kind of straight from that or pour it into your drink. Was this not available? Did only I have the syringe drink? This sounds like a bachelorette party or something. Or a hospital. A bachelorette hospital. Yeah. Or a bachelor party.

Or a sort of COVID fugue that I'm not. Like sexy stripper nurse shooting shots with a syringe into your mouth? No, we didn't see anything like that. No, these were the concoctions of a mad scientist, you see. Okay. And I kind of liked it for being like a fruity drink. I didn't mind. It was on the sweeter end, but I don't know.

Was that Knott's Berry Farm? Yeah. Was that in the Johnny Rockets? No, it was... Well, we buried the lead because that's where the VIP party was. We were rocking and rolling. That's right. God.

They were not playing rock and roll music, though, unfortunately. What? Mike and I did the Lindy all night long. Yeah. Despite no rock and roll, we were doing it just to try to keep the spirit of the restaurant alive. And they weren't serving the regular Johnny Rockets menu, menu sadly so that was a bit of a bummer uh i said this and i mean this in the best way and when you've all been to knots events and they're nice enough to have us knots events always feel like your grandma's church is having an event and you're invited

and there's a lot of stuff there to have, and it feels very, like, home. Everything feels very homemade. Does that make sense? The park in general, I think, feels very, like, you know, homey and quaint. Yeah. Like your grandma. Right. Like your grandma.

Like your grandma. Like Mama. Yeah, like Mama's place. She's very kind. She builds a lot of roller coasters. She's unamphetamine. She's a billionaire. She lives in the desert.

I go to Winnipark, and I feel like I'm back in Upper Darby. Yeah. Yeah, so we got to do that. Full disclosure, we got to skip the lines. This is the perk of being theme park journalist, podcaster, slash influencers. Yeah, geez. Or just hanging with them. Boy.

On top of the world. I know. Well, I've been calling myself a theme park influencer ever since then. So, yeah. Just keep saying it. See what doors open. the world i know well i've been calling myself a theme park influencer ever since then so yeah just keep saying it see what doors open door to this garage at least that one one door could open did i have like some sort of swagger in my walk like look at this look what we're doing you seem like a cool kid for sure yeah i was well like but like did i feel full of myself a little bit because i was like come on look this. Look what we've done.

Oh, yeah. No, I was plugged away. Okay, good. Of magic and glamour. How charming was that? Was that Willy Wonka whisking you around? Was that what it was like? It was incredible.

Yeah, I felt like your child. Thank you. All right, great. Wow. Yeah. You were a movie star and my dad at the same time. Okay, that's good. Yeah.

Well, I'm very father. I mean, obviously, I'm in father mode mode right now so that's probably what it was we did we did every maze we did every maze which was great not repeats and knots usually has like one or two new ones and then repeats and then they'll freshen up the repeats um so so the first time we ever went down to knots we got a behind the scenes tour of the depths and uh dark entities yeah and the lights were on and those are still there those i feel like they last for like four-ish years so these could be the end of the last year for that so you all did that i didn't know that well with the lights on yeah is that weird it was fine by me yeah all good on my end it's like if you walk around a play set with like

all the work lights on were they scaring you though or were you just oh no no they were just telling us how they did everything and how stuff worked yeah yeah and that's already what 2018 yeah yeah so that's four years ago so so those are like the uh stalwarts now of the night but uh charles have you been to you've been to scary farm before let's let's let's do this uh haunt wise history with haunts how long you've been doing them oh man i love haunts um i've been doing them probably since high school i guess but even in high school and junior high my friends and i would set up a haunted house for trick-or-treaters to walk through oh wow guard and we would put a lot of effort into it so that was

it's oh it's been it's been in my blood from day one what was do you remember like the haunted house themes or anything you would do well we lived i lived i grew up on the border of texas and mexico which is very subtropical so it's a little like florida swampy in that way it's very wet oh wow the theme was plants like every year you couldn't you had to work with the foliage but the plants were uh mutant plants or just we would just sort of like put cobwebs on everything and then jump from behind lots of plants and the house that i had the house that i grew up in there was multiple doors that you had to walk through before you got to the front door so a lot of opportunity for for scaring but i think i maybe i told this the last time i was on i can't remember but my number one haunted house story is that in high school i went with my cousins and my mom to a haunted house on the border. And they all went into the next room.

And some scare actors pulled me back. And they pulled me to the ground. And they pinned me down. And then, like, more scare actors came around. And they just took my pants off. I mean. You're not supposed to be doing that. It's an assault.

They just kept yes-anding that energy until they realized they had crossed the line. And then. Oh. You could. I saw they realized they had crossed the line. And then you could, I saw them kind of be like, Oh, and then I just like hoisted my pants up and like ran out. And then it's my mom. I was like, they took my pants off.

She was like, Oh no, they just got so caught up in the, and why, why you? Well, God, God, look at me all right all right i see it um jesus that didn't put you off haunts forever no maybe it fueled my addiction chasing that high

um and i haven't found it since uh you know knots i love i think i've been there four years probably this i think this is like maybe my fourth year of going and um i think this was the year that i got a little bored with it um i still but i still treasure it and think it's very special yeah well that's a that's a larger i feel like topic because these both knots and horror nights and maybe you won't feel the same about horror nights but there's like eight isish, nine-ish houses. It takes a lot of time to do it, even if you have like front-of-the-line passes.

I think we said by the eighth or ninth time, you're almost looking for someone to punch you or something. Totally. Or in my mind, I'll be like, oh, I need to send that email. And things will just be jumping out at me and then I just get into a trance. This is what I've said to my co-host before.

I go, that first one is going to be bad. You're going to be like, why at me and then i just get into a trance this is what i've said to my close before i go that first one is gonna be bad you're gonna be like i'm never why would i ever do this this sucks i don't want to be scared i hate it the second one you go okay it's not as bad by like the eighth or ninth you are just kind of like zombified like here we go okay look at that oh yeah there's a clown that's yelling at me okay hey all right anyway none of the next one like yeah there is a feeling by the end of that where i think your brain has learned like no one is going to attack me yeah and and it's also you're exhausted because it's midnight but charles never learned that you did no i was attacked i was attacked mike well it wasn't it keeps it alive if you don't believe the victim i don't think that is what i said. It wasn't the Not Scary Farm character Mesmer doing it.

It was something else. It wasn't one of these beloved Not's IPs. Koodles. It wasn't Koodles from Horror Nights. That's not Koodles. Koodles ain't going to do that. It was not Koodles. It wasn't the Ghost Town resident with supernatural powers.

The conductor? Are you speaking of the conductor? I believe I saw that her name is Sarah Marshall. Oh, Sarah Marshall. Yes, we met her. You'll never forget her. We did not forget Sarah Marshall. Why is it that name?

That's crazy. I don't know, but it just says on the, like, it's like. Oh, wait, I saw that too. Wait, where was that? That is the last. Okay, why am I? It's Grimoire. That was in Grimoire.

That was in New Maze. And the character's name in Grimoire, for some reason, is Sarah Marshall. I don't know if they didn't know. Any other name. Almost. I mean, not Annie Hall, but like most other names. Annie Hall. The Annie Hall.

The Annie Hall maze. That's a good idea. It sounds like an old NWIS name. I don't know. No, I didn't Google it. it who cares we're putting it up uh uh yeah sarah marshall i mean we i guess we yeah we could talk about that that's grimoire which is the new maze we did it like one of the last ones we did it that's their big kahuna this year right that's the big unveiling is grimoire yes because the other new one is like Bloodline. Bloodline 1842.

That one is like, they give you a gun, which is actually, we did do. The only maze you did. This is the newer version of Infected. Oh, that's right. I like the idea of putting a kind of fun gun and it's like a zombie or you're shooting, but this is my feeling with a lot of rides that you have a gun on.

It's too much. Too much going on. And they didn't work. And the guns didn't work and it's too much okay too much going on and they didn't work they're the guns didn't work and like it's not a satisfying thing to shoot it yeah because people are just they're getting close to you already and they're not going to like kill themselves to throw themselves against a wall to make it feel like you're actually shooting them yeah and i didn't know i was just shooting all the good people and i yeah i didn't it took me a really long time to realize that i was shooting the people helping me. Yeah, like a steampunk bartender.

You were lighting up. Of course I'm going to shoot a steampunk bartender. This is an annoying aesthetic. I would love to shoot a steampunk bartender. Way more than a zombie. You're trying too hard to have an identity. One too many Tinder dates end with, so I'm a steampunk bartender. That's my gig.

Goodbye. And that was another one I think we did at the end, closer to the end. And I was just like, this is too much. And then the score isn't satisfying. It doesn't even tell you, like, wait for your score. So it's like you weren't paying attention. I watched the YouTube of it before this, and I was like, oh, this is actually better than it was in my memory yeah because my memory was just like i gotta pretend to shoot these people and it was a big line of people too you just felt like you're in line with a gun

just sort of walking through a line but grimoire was really weird because it was kind of a stranger things camp but like teens at a campfire and i mean you know the socal actor element of it's very engaging like there's a lot to think about there with like you know all these 20 year olds like playing teenagers and like you're just making like direct eye contact with four feet away and they had a fake campfire and then the girl the lead girl girl, read from a book, I think, called Grimoire. Grimoire is like a book of evil, essentially, in, I guess, various lore, I guess. And she's lip-syncing the dialogue. And it's a very, I'll say the word,

intimate kind of spot to be in. And for a second, I thought this was going to be the best maze. Because there's like people... She's like dressed like the Pokemon trainer. What's the name of the main Pokemon trainer? Misty or Ash. I think it's Ash. She was dressed like Ash.

She's got a big baseball cap and she's got a big book and she's like doing the real like, come on everybody type acting. And she's doing the lip sync and then yeah, something happens and she says something about the book and then lights or whatever and smoke shoot up. And I remember going, this might be the best one. It started really promising. And she's lip syncing to a track that's extremely loud. So loud.

Her voice is just booming unnaturally loud everywhere. You're close to her, yeah. And then other people would be kind of ad-libbing. Or they decided later that they should have more lines. But there wasn't a track. And it was already too late or something. So there would be her that would be like, would just be so and then somebody else would be like it was just like this completely like what the mix was off i was off to say the least i watched

that video and i think the reason her track is recorded is because an effect has to hit after she reads from the book like i think there there's some fog or an explosion or something that happens. I think what it is is that we don't see Sarah Marshall again. We don't forget her, but we don't see her again. She's Sarah Marshall, I believe, because they're trying to find her. They remember her. But you see the other kids later. Now, they're played by different much

older actors in my memory it's like you saw the kids before and then you see them later and you're like that looks like a guy aged 15 years since i saw him at the campfire look you gotta have some dupes and you gotta do 30 minutes on 30 minutes off yeah yeah you gotta just match the best but i think that's why the recorded track is because they have those people all trying to sound the same. Yeah. You can look different, but don't you ever sound different? No. If you sound different, it would give it away.

But you go through a really weird 20s or 50s pastiche before that, which, again, I'm watching the video, and I go, oh, that was all really cool. And then you go through a a foxhole i believe yeah you go through like a black and white house uh like then you go through a closet then you're like in an army foxhole for some reason yeah and then like paths of glory all of a sudden and then jason you're like this you go into a rations room with a bunch of cans of soup oh there's just a big room full of not Campbell's soup, but it is the logo looks like Campbell's soup. Quick, is anyone eating any of these fists? I don't want to be the

first. Somebody else try. Is the VIP wristband? Get us these. Can I take a couple? You get tackled by a scare actor for trying to rip one of the cans off of them. Sir! That's all actually pretty cool. And then you go back into present day, and then there's just many rooms of going through the forest trying to find Sarah Marshall.

Yeah. And you can't find her. Yeah. We didn't find her. And you do forget your goal. Absolutely. You don't forget Sarah Marshall, but you do forget why you care. There's a Buena Park actor yelling at you, though, later, but you still don't know what you're doing.

Yeah. And it's that very classic maze thing, which I realize they almost all have, except at Six Flags. They almost all have this thing where people are like, come on, come on. And it's just like rushing you, like airport stress. Yes. That's how a lot of them keep the tensions high. Yeah. And also they built in keeping it moving because you've got to get a lot of people in and out here.

So for some reason, all these are all very urgent. I think I've said this probably twice on the show at least. And I didn't do this because they did a WB like Horror Nights on the lot a couple years ago. That's fun. And they did like an Arkham asylum batman one and there was a room in the in the video i was watching where joker has to do like he has to yell and do his joker shit but also he has to make sure the line is moving and then he but he also has to control the line too he's like hold on one moment and then he does this whole thing and then like he's like checking

checking to make sure the whole group is ready and then he's like all right right this way you're like they couldn't get a second person? And this is a Joker's assistant. Yeah, Harley Quinn couldn't have done that. So, yeah, it's all built into ride capacity or haunt capacity. The narrative has to move because we've got to get people in and out. Yeah, Grimoire was a new one. The first half, that's my review.

The first half I feel like is great. And I think it's an unfinished story, if I remember correctly. They kind of just, they're just like, okay, go out. Yeah, they end and like, she's gone. The book took her. Yeah, she's dead, I think. Yes, she's gone. Sarah Marshall's dead.

Huh. Yeah. Well, I guess these things aren't supposed to have happy endings. No. It's really sad, actually. Because you're seeing the book through the ages. Like, the book taking people or possessing people, I think. Yes.

Because they keep, like, somebody will come out, like somebody cooking something in a kitchen, and she'll have, like, the book, and the book is glowing, and everything else is black and white around you, which is a cool effect. Yeah. It's painted black and white, and they're, like, wearing, like, gray makeup and, like, black and white clothing. I feel like if they can punch up that second half next year, we may have...

A go picture. Yeah. And it can make it to the four-year mark. Is that the longest these things go? I think around that... What's the Keenan of... I know. Probably the Origins one, right?

No, Origins is newer. Really? Origins was 2019, I believe. Dark Ride? I think it was last year for Dark Ride. Yes. That's the oldest one. You can feel that.

That feels old. That one does feel old. That's the weakest, I think. I agree. It's okay. It's not bad, but it's not that scary and it's not that interesting, I feel like. The clown room at the end is kind of fun, but not as fun as killer clowns at Horror Nights.

It's a fun idea to just walk through a dark ride. It's a fun idea, but it doesn't really always feel like you're doing that. I think Waxworks has a similar tiredness to it, too, but there's something just very charming about Waxworks for me. Waxworks, Dr. Scratch, I believe is the character's name. You're in a wax museum, but he's also taking people and turning them into horribly disfigured wax creatures. At the end, you see, depending on if people are on their shift or not,

people are in the vats of wax calling out to you. I don't think we got that because I was watching the video earlier today. I remember a couple times we'd be going through the mazes, and I'd go, like, there's a couple people called in sick today there was that and then a lot of the things that had been working before weren't working where there'd be like a big hand that comes out and grabs you yeah and i was sort of waiting for the big spectacle moments and those it did feel like this year maybe it was just opening night and it takes a second to sure get the show on the road but it did feel a little like there was a dip for me.

But maybe I'm just getting desensitized. I did that. I did Fright Fest. I went to the Magic Castle. Wow. I had a frightful month. Yeah. And Horror Nights. And so I'm just sort of exhausted. Yeah.

You've lived at like Scream Decibel I guess for... I guess less so the magic cast unless i don't know are people screaming at you no that was delightful yeah that's just a calm nice time um i will say the my favorite one of knots is mesmer which is when we did first yeah i'm having a hard time remembering it and i was thinking about you saying that it was your favorite and how for some reason it's blended for me. Mesmer, it's a lot of like you go in a circus tent and then there's a room that's got like different shaped clocks, like grandfather clocks, and it's all tilted. It feels like a Batman villain's lair or something versus the other.

It feels different. Yeah. It's got a mood. It's got an atmosphere to it. And it's all like disorienting you yeah versus just like pummeling you with buena park scares right um but that is the industry term yes so i've got that one's new i think that one's like two years old but i feel like that one is the best maybe it was just because i was the freshest also. That's also very possible.

Mike, let me ask. Now that you've been going for a few years now, how do you decide where to start? Do you start with what's closest to the entrance? Do you start with what you're most interested in? Well, Jason, this year I'll tell you why we started with Mesmer. It's because it was very close to the Johnny Rockets. Johnny Rockets proximity. And you hope that, I guess in this case, there was not rock music playing.

But in another year, you might hope that if you're a little afraid, that maybe you hear rock around the clock. And you can kind of like tether to that. A Bobby Boris Pickett cover of rock around the clock or something. Okay, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, they should fill it with spooky rock. That would be a great way to take over Johnny Rock. There's a lot more depressing

than someone whose mental health relies on orienting themselves with Rock Around the Clock. Just give me some rock music. There's also, that's the second year I think of the Roaring Twenties area. Yeah, that was nifty. I like that.

You were about to say nifty. I wasn't, then I really stopped. But it's the right word for it. I did. Your instinct was correct. It was cute. There's like evil newsboys. This is why I said this last time, Jason.

This is outside, too. You don't even have to go into a maze. This is just outside. It's the Roaring Twenties scare sale. Goring. Goring Twenties. I said roaring. I said it wrong.

But yeah, you got your evil newsboys, your evil flappers. Yeah, a little jazz band playing up there. Giving it its all. This jazz band sounded great. It didn't sound that evil to me, honestly. It just sounded fun. Well, that's the trick. But there's fun music.

Maybe music isn't always like the haunted mansion you know it's that's true i get ghosts like ragtime i guess is what i'm saying they have established that they don't need to they ghosts are fun they don't need to just listen to like screeching on a uh on a chalkboard or something ghosts yeah ghosts like screeching on a chalkboard but they also love an upright bass they really do This seems very associated. It is true. That seems like what for some reason, I don't know if the Haunted Mansion started it, but

can somebody point to the first piece of pop culture where an upright bass was associated with ghosts? What were ghosts before the 20s? I guess they were Victorian. But before that, it's kind of like how teenagers didn't exist until the 50s. Ghosts didn't have a brand until... Right, right 50s. Ghosts didn't have a brand until... Right, right, right.

Ghosts didn't have a musical identity until ragtime era. They were just insane peasants that... With no outlet. With no way to express themselves from beyond the grave. Glad they found jazz. Was there an origin of ghosts being fun? Where ghosts represented sadness up until a certain point when somebody was like,

well, what if we just pretend they're just having a party? I don't know the answer to it. Is Disney part of this? I don't want to say they invented it, but certainly, and there was stuff before the Haunted Mansion, but I do think of the skeleton, like the early Walt cartoon, the skeleton dance. That's kind of like a late 1800s, like the whole like mysticism movement made like magic

tricks and like the macabre really popular in the late 1800s. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's true. That like Belle Epoque, like skeleton person. Oh, sure. And then you could like have fun with somebody who has access to beyond the grave or like plays with your expectations. And seances. Oh, sure. And then you could have fun with somebody who has access to Beyond the Grave or plays with your expectations. And seances.

There was also a tradition of reading ghost stories at Christmas time. Really? Yeah, that Christmas Carol is a ghost story. Right, right, right. Because Christmas was miserable until 20 years ago. Yeah, until the Coca-Cola Corp. came along. A couple years before we were born.

And we're all 18, just to do do the math i toured one of the this big old uh dupont mansion in in delaware that's like a museum now does like historical exhibits every christmas of like what is christmas like over the years you would go through different rooms and floors and they're like, and so this is the 1800s, this is 1910s, 1930s, 1950s. And like the older ones are like, the Christmas tree was often decorated on Christmas Eve with candles. It was not decorated sooner because you could only fill the candles for one night and you had to blow them all out lest you burn the house down. Yeah. makes sense. So that was Christmas.

That was Christmas Eve. You get one day of an extreme fire hazard. Yeah, and then there's poppers. I love poppers. Yeah, everybody did poppers. The British poppers, not the- I'm finally listening. The ones that you like pop and have confetti and like little paper crackers.

Crackers. Crackers. Okay. So you're saying capitalism has made everything fun. Really is what we're saying. Yeah. They've injected. Some things are really fun.

It's not wrong. It's not completely wrong. It's a re-tablet gun. That's what the whole show is about. We celebrate the good stuff that capitalism leads to. That's what the thing show is about. We celebrate the good stuff that capitalism leads to. That's what the thing on the Apple podcast says. There's so many great poppers startups nowadays. So yeah, Knott's overall delivered.

It doesn't give you every year when you try to talk about it, since there's so much stuff that's very similar or the same. It's like, I don't want to go over the depths again because I've been there. Every listener knows my feelings on the depths. They know. I'm not sure every host remembers your feelings on the depths. You remember the depth. My favorite part of the depths is that they do this really awesome thing with like a laser when you're walking through like fog or like it's supposed to imitate fog or water.

So they put fog and they kind of put this laser that makes it feel like it's only a chest level and then there's people putting their fins or sea creatures putting their arms up above. Fins to the left, fins to the right. Well, that's why I like the depths a lot. The only bait in town. It's very successful at what

it's pulling. It looks good. It's one of the best effects that I've never seen anywhere else. Yeah, and every time time i see it i think about how i was in this play in uh community theater oh actually this is a high school play where it's called the diviners and it's a play that only high schools know and i played a preacher who has to like go and like save a boy who's drowning and the director just wanted me to like jump on the floor of the stage and just like pantomime swim and it's supposed to be the most upsetting climax possible and people would just fucking laugh every time i would jump on the ground and start swimming

and i think about that every time i see the depth i'm like if we only knew about this not technology in 2005 that could that could have been doable for uh for high school maybe a lot could have been doable in my upbringing that i wasn't given you have a long improvement yeah this is not this is not that high on the list ultimately capitalism could have made it more fun i felt a little like knots is getting stale to me as somebody who goes but at the same time after then going to six flags it made me think knots is so special like it really it really made me think like they really knots has a soul at the end of the day it's a weird soul and it's a makeshift soul but it is a it's it does have a soul for

sure yeah yeah and it's got the like uh they've got a voice it's consistent now i have not been to fright fest i don't want to go back to fright fest without anthony geo yeah basically that's when on whenever anthony wants to go and do fright because we did fright fest a few years ago um but i want to hear about fright fest yeah yeah i want to know this is my first one i mean i went to fiesta texas into six flags Flags Over Texas growing up to those Fright Fests. But I had never been to Magic Mountain before. So this was my first. Oh, at all.

Yeah. And I don't think I can do roller coasters anymore. It was really rough on my body. Which ones did you do? I did basically all of them. The one that screwed me up was the Viper because it's like a loop and then a corkscrew. And that was too much. Yeah, it was too much.

But then my friends went on Tatsu where you dangle and you face down. And I said, I can't do that with you. That's actually too scary. I love it. This is too scary. Really? I've only done it once, but I thought it was thrilling. This is what's funny about this is that he's much braver than us when it comes to stuff like that.

What does it mean? Are you asking him or me? Oh, I don't know i just thought i mean that one was fun because i like this was like 2007 something like that i just thought it was so unique because you load into the chair like you're sitting and then it like swings you up so you're facing down and like flying it is unique but it scares the shit out like the idea of it scares the shit out of me actually scary's actually scary because you could die. Yeah. It behooves them, though, to keep their guests alive as much as possible.

That's what I always think. I think I came to that conclusion around 11 or 12. Sure. You're not wrong. I think there's the separation of scary rides and haunts. Jason, if you can get over anything that's scary about a roller coaster then you get the fun part that you enjoy yeah i feel like with a haunt i don't think you there's enough in it for you or me that like so we get over the fear and then what am i am i gonna appreciate the the theming yes that what that that's what is in it for me i think so okay okay

yeah theming i also like the world of horror uh like media and fandom and it's all very a piece with like theme park fandom and comic book fandom yes it's a similar language that's what i guess because we both did not we were kept away from all this as children but we let we're comic book kids yeah now yeah you're like oh it's all the same and when it's really pulled off too i mean not to skip around but with horror nights too where you're just like oh this is a fully realized idea from beginning to end it's elevated and even though it does feel a little corporate or something there's still yeah you're just like wow you really pulled this off and i got in the middle of something and it felt real to me or you know or the the idea of it felt real to me it's interesting because you're

like certain ones like mesmer for instance you're like kind of impressed that that's not doing the same thing as every like all the other ones it's similar of course but it's not quite they're like doing a few things that are new but then like to jump around uh horror nights there's a halloween maze yeah and they pummel you with scares i love it i don't i think i've been i've never been But then to jump around, Horror Nights, there's a Halloween maze. Yeah. And they pummel you with scares. I love it. I think I've never been pummeled more with people jumping out at you.

There's a spot at the end. I think that I'm remembering this right. There's a room with eight Michael Myers, right? Yeah. And half of them are real. Ah. Oh, no. There's so many Michael Myers. There's probably 40 Michael Myers.

There might be that many. Maybe, actually. And then the last stretch of it, there's just Michael Myers coming out of every window at you as you try to leave. Wow. Very body inclusive. Like all shapes and sizes of Michael Myers. Sure, yeah. Wow.

Not at all. So like by the end, you are like, even if it's your last maze, you come out of it pretty impressed. Yeah. You're like, they got me. Pretty good. And it's your last maze you come out of it pretty impressed yeah you're like they got me and it's classy too and also the i mean not to be rude but just like the it just feels like horror nights is sag everyone is just you know a groundling sure there's like a certain level where like the wigs have a little more patina and everyone's really selling it but six flags was i i mean these people they don't want to do it i don't know why they're doing parents making them get a job i guess so

that's on the billboard at the entrance we don't want to do i don't want to do the work today that's what we found when we were there is that very few employees it was outrageous every we kept joking about it because so many i mean probably a hundred times somebody would be like boo and then there'd be a moment where they'd be like and it was just it would be this like apology energy that was like no no it's okay like it kind of worked like and it's so everything at at six flag the sets were kind of good the sets were good but then there was one at Six Flags called Aftermath to Chaos Rising.

Because we're all so aware of the first one and how the chaos needed to rise. How could they do another Aftermath? The chaos would have to rise or something. Then it's going to leaven. But that was these

huge set pieces with really tall, towery. You were basically in Children of Men, essentially. And so you were like walking through burning buildings with real flames. And it was really like the production design was amazing. But then the actors were all like victims of this chaos, whatever it was. So no one was coming for you everyone was just like oh and you'd be like oh oh no you just keep walking by people being like that way ah it's like being like walking you're like outside of a high school nurse's office. Yeah, it was like hour 13 of the Capitol riots.

It was like everyone was basically disbanded. I got mazed. Fuck. It's during the Capitol. And this is like right after the head of Six Flags is like, you know, we're changing our image. We're not just going to be a babysitter, a place where you can just drop your kids off. And I'm like, do you know what parks you run, man? Like you're changing.

Like you're going to have to inject a lot of money and a big change in like your whole vibe if you don't want to just be like the teenage spot. Yeah, I know. That's the one. Six Flags across the board. Every house had that kind of Rob Zombie. What's the zombie show? The Walking Dead, like where everything is just a little MAGA.

It's just like, ah, dang. That's not my favorite thing about Halloween, ultimately. That's not the aesthetic I think about. I love a gothic. I love a spooky. Was there the Haunted Mansion, like ripoff one this year? There was, yeah. Okay. Because a lot of them, they keep around. Yeah, I liked it. spooky yeah was there the haunted mansion like ripoff one this year there was yeah okay because

a lot of them they keep around yeah i liked it okay yeah that one was okay well they had one where people were flying over you a lot and that was cool where they were in these harnesses and they all felt like trained enough in this thing the highest compliment you could give it was satisfactory training provided yeah they did this thing where they would lunge at you and then they were on bungee cables so that they would get really close to you and you thought they were going to hit you but then at the last second they'd pull back and they somehow felt confident enough to understand the distance necessary there was some horror uh horror nights that had like a bungee. Yeah. I feel like sometimes you see the bungee. When we did Delusion, there was bungee.

Like the rock monster punched somebody and the bungee like shot them backward. Yes. It's so Trumpy, but it's just saying, and they had bungee and we love bungee. Thing with the haunts, they got to have more bungee. They don't do bungee. Did you do Twisted Colossus? did twist how was that i liked it i liked it but god i missed the days where i could get on a roller coaster and and feel abandoned every time i was like this is i have to be on high i don't know what i was trying to to monitor but I was like, I must be on red alert.

Yeah, you want to feel free when you're on it, not like worried. Yeah, I was looking at every screw I was passing on all of them. Okay. Because that's another minotaur for me is getting back on Twisted Colossus. Because I did it once and it crushed my genitals. Who needs you to do the one that's so... I'd say don't do it. Seems like you're better off not.

No, I'm going to do it. I don't want your genitals to get crushed again, Mike. That's not going to happen again. I can fix that. You have a daughter. They still work. It's fine. You did reproduce post-Tricer Colossus.

You should freeze sperm and then go on twisted colossus you can freeze sperm out of six flags too yeah at that johnny rocket uh uh so yeah i gotta get back on twisted colossus because it was crazy and fun but like it felt i felt insane on it like there was a panic, another anxiety attack happening to me. I think that one was correct. I think you were right. I'm worried you're going to get over this fear and then that'll be the time

that Twisted Colossus heals over. Claims my genitals for good? I hope not. Again, as we discussed, Jason, we all love when we can dock each other's pay and get more of the money, but I don't want your pay docked permanently due to your death. No, Twisted Glasses is good.

It's just that the whole situation was bad. The employee leading up was not the most helpful person. We were trying to give him our plastic souvenir glasses, and he wouldn't touch them. And he said, you've got to get out and go and put them on that table over there. And we had to get out after being loaded on, feeling like the ride was going to take us. Like without, like somebody's going to step on it as it shot away. Charles, the Six Flags teens, did you sense more of a vacantness or a hostility due to them not wanting to be? Was it more of like lost eyes or like open mouth?

Gaping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If there was, I mean, I'm sure there's all kinds. It was the look of people who have done no self-work. Which I guess is teens. But there was like a, I don't know my place. That was the energy. It just sounds that they scared and then recoiled a little.

How can you have the confidence to scare when you're clearly not? That's very difficult. Yeah. That requires the most confidence in the world, maybe. This is whose pay should get docked. Yeah. He didn't commit no one committed i do want to say if mike dies i happily will do a mike impression um on the show forever oh sweet

okay cool like how rich little did uh the pink panther after peter sellers died dubbed half the movie i'm happy to do that. Thank God, because the backup would have been a James Earl Jones AI situation, and that sounds expensive. So if a guy sounds good, you know. I'll go along with that plan, but I would like to hear Rich Little try his hand at an impression of me. The only thing I could ever do to impersonate you is funny. Funny? Funny. Oh, interestingate you is funny. Funny? Funny. Oh, interesting.

Funny and fun. Funny? Is that my Chicago accent? Yeah. That's interesting. Whoa, I've never caught that, but it sounds familiar. And if Griffin Newman, now I'm really jumping around. If Griffin Newman is listening to this episode, something he says on Blank Check is fundamental.

Start clocking. It's a drinking game this is coming from someone who has no friends just podcasts so you sit and listen they did that one again they did that one again that's the hook so mine is the hook is like funny so like a rich little same root word is griff. Yeah, right. It's funny and fundamental. Yeah. You just listen to everybody's F you. I mean, somebody's has to be fuck.

Somebody's has to be. Yeah, that's Jason. However they say fuck. Yeah. Listen for Jason's fuck and that'll be the key. The only thing I'll say about anyone doing an impression of me is I don't want it to be nasty like that Phil Hartman, Frank Sinatra impression. I want it to be nice like that Joe Piscopo, Frank Sinatra. I want it to be of respect. I want it to be nice like the Joe Piscopo Frank Sinatra.

I want it to be of respect. I want it to be love. He loved because he loved Mike. It came from a place of love. That's a five-timer as I was talking about Joe Piscopo's kind Frank Sinatra impression. That's for sure something. It was funny. It was fun and it was

funny and fundamentally Is that kind of griffin-y? Sorry, Griff. Fundamentally. That's what he, like, it's probably, like, super pronounced. Fundamentally. Yeah, totally. He hits the syllables.

Wow. Well, try it at home, kid. Now you know you have a guide for doing a Griffon Newman impression. Did you see any antics of teens that weren't working there? Because when we were there, we saw a teen put his mouth on the fog machine and suck a bunch of fog up and then spit it out. No, I didn't see anything too crazy, but I will say... Well, there were girls that were screaming in a way that was like,

oh my gosh. That was with us too. Not that scary. Yes, that's happened there with us too, where you were like, it's a little performance. I know, there's something where I'm like, it's a little performance. I know. There's something where I'm like, if it's not a performance, then something's up here. Yeah. Because you shouldn't be screaming this loudly.

Yeah. No, we had that too. We had exactly the same thing. Did you drink a beer in the little pen they make you sit in by the Johnny Rockets? My friends did. I've been trying to drink less. My friends drink a beer. In the pen.

In the little pen. And I will say the one thing teen-wise I did feel was that I went with only gay guys. And I was like, well, we're just going to get killed. It just felt like one of those things where it's like, we had it coming. We went to Magic Mountain. We went to Valencia. We should have known. It's basic math. I don't want to forget, though,

that the most exciting thing that happened to us at Not Scary Farm was the moment that this clown walked up to us and started heckling us. Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

Thank God you remember this. And teasing us. And then she walked away. But teasing both of you. So it wasn't about your orientation. No, no, no. This was not. And I used the word preference.

That's what I'm saying. Not. It's okay. Oh, shit. Fuck. I've never been in this scenario before. Okay. I can tell you.

Preference, preference. Okay. That is a great trick to play on straight people. On orientation, preference. I'll get him in a garage. It's a forced choice, scarier than an eye in a knott's berry jar of preserves don't use orientation as the keyword to do an impression of me so we were generally heck we were heckled as a group and then she she walked away and then this janitor came up kind of seemingly out of nowhere yeah and was

like like a materialized yeah it was very magic a magical janitor came up and was like man every year that clown gets sillier and sillier it's literally the funniest thing you can say about a clown he had like the like it was like the Wayne's World 2 Charlton Heston Far away look in his eye Like that clown Oh boy

Bob Hoskins Look at that It was so like He was so delighted It was one year I thought he peaked And then he showed me That is maybe the best character interaction We had all night Of my year One year I thought he peaked. And then he showed me. That is maybe the best character interaction we had all night.

Of my year. That was the best thing I heard all year. How were the sliders this year? Did you see any sliders? The people sliding on the ground. Not the burgers. I assumed you were asking about burgers, yes. No, but I did have like, they had a carving station where I had some turkey or something. Ah, that Halloween.

Again, what I'm saying, like a grandma's church thing where you're like, they have a carving station here. Like multiple carving stations. Which, yeah, they give you a big tri-tip or whatever they got. Yeah, might be like a Depression-era orphan. Yeah, I also, I like immediately I lied because your friend couldn't come in with us because we want to break the rules. I didn't want to get in trouble. But I was like, oh, yeah, we're going to be there in two seconds. And like you turn around and I have two plates loaded of food.

I'm eating like 10 boiled potatoes. The whole English breakfast. Yeah. Yeah, the sliders, you're talking about the people on their the slide on their knees uh and scare you yeah there were a few out less than usual though but i feel like it was less than usual and i i don't i don't want to say it's because because they've been doing it so long at this point but it's got to be just hell on your knees yeah there's no way there's no way you could come back next year and do it again yeah when we were six

flags the opening ceremonies of monsters a guy slid right out in front of everybody and made a bunch of teenage girls shriek and then we heard him stand up and go oh like we heard him grimace that he hurt himself opening night first scare of the night uh and i have to imagine that happens a lot because these people are sliding like crazy be honest those are your least favorite the most like you don't like are you most scared of those scares i because i feel like that's when you grab my arm that one day but i think that is uh very impressive okay so i don't know that might bounce out then so you go ah and then you go oh and that's then you go, ooh. Ooh. And that's how you hurt your knee was as a slider.

I was sliding. Yeah, I was raw dogging sliding. I did no pads. Nothing. During the summer. That's what you can't do. Yeah, you can't. When the asphalt's 80 degrees and the sun's beating down,

you're not supposed to just throw your knee at it. Jason, there are no summer sliders. We keep telling you. Well, yeah. But for some reason, sparks did come out of your knee at it. Jason, there are no summer sliders. We keep telling you. Well, yet. But for some reason, sparks did come out of your knees. Yes. Can I ask, wait, let's,

Scott, you actually watched the video now that I'm thinking. We just recently did a Patreon episode about the musical Starlight Express. Is there sliding in Starlight Express? Oh, geez. I couldn't tell you offhand. I feel like a lot of stuff happens.

There's a little bit, I think. Could be. There has to be sliding in Starlight Express. There's probably accidentally sliding a lot. That's true. Was there Starlight Express? It's gone for ever and ever. It's still playing in Germany.

Yeah, they built a private theater that is just for this that the town financed because they love Starlight Express so much. There's a documentary on the sliders. Yeah. But did Starlight Express, did they actually invent sliding? Not Scary Farm predates Starlight. Right, but did sliders start with Not Scary Farm the first year?

I think those sliders seem pretty proud of their sliding. That they started it. But I think a lot of, because there is sliding and a lot of these things and i think there is speculation and argument over which one of the i think it's from theme park world but i bet there's a guy out there who's like i know i'm the first slider and it feels adjacent to on letterman when he had that woman that would just like drill her stomach and sparks would fly out of her stomach. She had a metal outfit. She was an ongoing theme in the show. I bought this woman up on the show before where, yeah, she would have like a metal outfit and it would spark.

She would just spark because she was hitting herself with like some sort of power tool. Something that would create sparks and she would just like. Yeah. And it would happen whenever you'd go to a commercial and like the band would play and then this woman would come out and just like yeah for no reason it would be a sort of a celebration like a like a late 90s discovery yeah but yeah not as i feel like yeah there were only a couple sliders so there was still a lot of people with like uh uh like a soup can full of change yeah That's an old standard. It was like a loud, like they'd rattle it at you. They had canners. There was plenty of canners.

They had canners, yeah. Canners versus sliders. My favorite Shakespearean situation. I was like, dynamic. I would like to try sliding, now that I'm thinking about it,

but it's probably not a good idea yeah no go for it why not you only live once what was it just like knee pads do you remember I mean I would love to watch the training montage of you getting into sliding because like the whatever guy you found would go like oh just

knee pads huh that's what you're thinking it well go ahead and try and you get your ass handed to you, but then slowly but surely, you become better than them. We will try, and whose injury will get blown out first? My knee or your reoccurring Achilles tennis injury? Well, they've healed since I haven't been playing, so those are doing all right right now, but we'll see when I'm sliding.

For sure. When the Civil War does happen, sliders, half of America will become a slider. so yeah those are doing all right right now but we'll see when i'm sliding for sure when the civil war does happen sliders everyone half of america will become a slider there's just gonna be so much of it oh no everywhere it's gonna get weaponized and it's inevitable yeah we're just duct taping washers you don't think half america's accidentally already duct taping washers to their hands as we speak because if they take guns away what do we got sliding and washers and if you can't slide but that's the children will just shake a heavy can around but the fourth world war will be fought with washers six flags you probably won't return to, maybe.

I mean, I just love being at a theme park. So if somebody wants to go, of course I'll go. But Universal, I mean, I don't know. Do you want to talk about Universal? Yes. I loved it. I had a great time. You guys did not go to this one together. No.

I thought a lot about Mike, though. Oh, well, that's nice. Wasn't the same with Adam, huh? Did you think of me? I was thinking of you. That's nice. wasn't the same did you think of me here i was thinking of you that's nice for sure no i swear but that felt a little like stiff like thinking of like that seems like passing or like not without not with a lot of like feeling i'm talking about like powerful adoration oh you're saying i mean i don't want to lie i don't know have you seen the lake

house no it's much are you talking about a generic lake house or the kind of race I don't want to lie. I don't know. Have you seen The Lake House? No. It's much less bad. Are you talking about a generic lake house or the kind of race? I'm talking about The Lake House Mike and I are going to buy. I was talking about the movie. I'm into The Lake House. Buying it, that is. But I want to shout out real quick the Margaritaville interaction I had at City Walk before. Because this was what i was high

about the whole time jay i told jason this already i was sitting outside by the fire pit at margaritaville waiting for uh two friends to show up and an employee of margaritaville rolled by and he said hello mr carlson congratulations on the baby. Welcome back to this sector. And he kept rolling. He kept walking. Whoa. Wow. And I was like, wow. He never came back, never talked to me again.

Whoever this was, good work, sir. Geez. That made me feel great and crazy at the same time. Very Truman Show. Sure. Whenever the actors are trying to get messages to him. Yes. Yes.

So I was congratulating on the baby, but then also a City Walk saga reference thrown in. Wow. Like a king. Yes, I did feel like... You were a VIP somewhere. No one was there, too, so when I told my two friends, they were like, okay, that's cool.

I was like, no, no, no, but did you hear what I said? I said, Sector. And Sector is a reference to when we did 19 episodes about City Walk. They like it. And they still talk about it. And they say the song. He used our linguistic choice. What?

What? He used our language. He used our linguistic. Yeah, yeah. He used our term. Our term. Like speaking Navi. So I was obsessed with that interaction the rest of the night is what I'm saying.

Yeah. So your mind was occupied. That's what I'm saying. I was occupied. I feel like I brought it up later in the night, too. But you guys saw that or you heard that. That was cool, right? And they were like, yeah, okay.

It's cool. Or no, I ran into my sister came later and I told her about that and she was like oh oh yeah oh i had a lower key version the other day at avengers campus i was at the pin bar and someone popped up and said hey i like the show can i get a picture and then they just disappeared as quickly as they appeared and then i drank a beaker full of hard seltzer did you say no to the picture no i said of course you didn't have a picture. Oh, okay. Why are all our fans running away? Makes it harder to prove. We need to take a picture

to prove that it happened. Well, they're athletes. That's why. Oh, finally. I figured it out. Scott, I had a plastic test tube of hard seltzer with an obscene amount of boba in it and no straw. I looked around and no one was being given a straw.

So I just ate a few mouthfuls of boba at the end of the drink. I have a question. How many of our listeners have ever listened to this podcast while doing the battle ropes? The two big ropes that you do this. How many people have ever listened to Podcast the Ride while just ripping on those battle ropes at a gym or in your backyard or something? There's wrestlers who listen. Could be a wrestler. There are a few wrestlers who listen, so I guess that is possible.

It could have been the wrestlers. Charles, do you do the ropes? Would you do the ropes and listen to us? Thank you for saying that. I absolutely would. Have I know. That's too much to ask. I think there's a bigger question

of has anyone ever listened to a podcast while doing the ropes? I think so. Yeah, Rogan. Exclusively Rogan. You're right. I case in general. I think so. Yeah, Rogan. Exclusively Rogan. You're right. I take it back. I wasn't thinking that way.

And then on every word they go like, damn, social justice warriors. Right. Get all the aggression out. I was thinking of like Poog. What? Poog. It's Caperlant's podcast.

I was thinking of podcasts that rope people would not listen to rope people rope people there's some doughboys listeners i bet who do the ropes while they listen to doughboys yeah they live vicariously because they should not be eating that the food oh i see yeah yeah yeah you don't think they roll at mcdonald's and then do the ropes to get rid of the oh they earn the mcdonald's yeah. I guess that's true. By the way, thwarted earlier from getting an adult Happy Meal.

Oh yeah, you waited too long. I waited too long. The app? I checked like 10 in the valley. There's like 10 close by. I was at McDonald's Monday morning at 10.30am. You were. You texted me pretty early. A Grimace toy.

Now this is our ropes. It was you rope dropping McDonald's adult Happy Meals. That's correct, yes, because I wanted one of the new weird toys that look like it's melting. But it says until the end of the month, so I'm assuming they'll restock at some point. That's a good question. I don't know if they will. There's four different weird toys. Do you guys know what I'm talking about?

I've not looked up what the adult Happy Meal toys are. I don't know what it is. about i've not looked up what the adult abby mill toys are there's i it's i don't know what it is something called cactus plant there's some sort of like art designer mcdonald land toys with grimace hamburglar birdie and then a character i've never heard of not ronald oh wait where they have the multiple eyes yes multiple eyes they look they look scary like a streetwear collaboration i think it's like when like when Onikolo was doing Sesame Street clothing, but they had Xs over Big Bird's eyes, and you're not sure why, but it's cool, I guess. Okay.

So I got a Grimace with four eyes. Well, since we're talking about this sort of thing, as you guys, you went to Horror Nights, did either of you collect all the custom NFTs to show your Horror Nights fandom? Very good question, Jason. I have a few of them but or by hyper mint by moon pay oh i'm seizuring from those words i would have gotten on the moon

on the website you see this graphic that says ready player me create your avatar ready player me you could get so the horror nights thing this year was that you would scan and you would get an nft for every maze i will say this i couldn't find the qr codes for a lot of these mazes so i ended up with maybe two how did you know this i don't i didn't see any evidence you asked a good question i heard people talking about nfts and now you're that's i understand no i'm trying to remember how i heard about it maybe instagram or something and i got very like oh man i made all the NFTs. And then I got two of them and forgot.

And then the signage was not clear. There's also a limited drop of $185 Universal Monster hoodies. How much is it? $185. Do they look cool, though? They look all right. You can kind of see them. This is a trend because the McDonald's adult Happy Meals also coincide

with a website where you can buy like $60 McDonald's shirts, hip like art McDonald's shirts. Wow, McDonald's is at the forefront of the art scene these days. Yeah, some of my favorite artists work for McDonald's. It's always been the case, but now more than ever. Sure, freelancers. Is capitalism doing good stuff that's again art jackets and the uh now now this is not a hip this is just a classic

they're bringing back the the buckets remember the bucket the classic mcdonald's buckets i'm not gonna make the same mistake with the buckets what mistake i i slept i slept on the adult happy meal jason went to disneyland now. I was going to Disneyland the next day. I was like, I should not eat a Big Mac value meal. A Big Mac adult happy meal. Could have gotten nuggets. Could have gotten nuggets. Yeah, it's like a 10-piece nugget.

That's way too many nuggets. Let's put them in the freezer. That's true. So, yeah, the buckets are coming back, which is fun. But, yeah, I have grimace. Fun. Fun. Oh, I said I have grimace. Fun. Fun. Oh, I said it.

I figured it out. I think listeners should take 10 shots every time you say fun. Fun. Let's see what happens to that Patreon. Yeah. Oh, no. All our pay has been talked. I don't know.

You know, if the credit cards keep renewing, then, oh, that's a terrible thing to say. You know, it's weird. A bunch of our listeners died, but the credit card kept renewing, so we're good. They were alive. And people thought they were alive because they were paying for this Patreon for years.

They're probably fine. All their OnlyFans and Podcast of the Riot Patreon just kept clicking away. I'm getting concerned they're probably fine all their only fans in podcast the riot patreon just kept clicking away I'm getting concerned that they died somebody check somebody log into their patreon they always give someone your patreon passwords

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All right. So what horror nights? Highlights? Yeah. Stuff you liked? Well, I'm trying to think. Yeah, the NFT is kind of a bust. It wasn't so fun like I thought it would be. Fawn.

Fawn. The big kicker. Do you want to just go right, the NFT is kind of a bust. It wasn't so fun like I thought it would be. Fawn. I mean, the big kicker. Do you want to just go right into the big kicker? Sure. Do you want to work your way into it? Is the kicker what I think it is? Baby, you better believe it. I want to know. What is it?

Is it The Weeknd? Yeah. It was great. I wish you could see that. I wish you guys could do The Weeknd at the very least. It was fantastic. Because I love... Okay, so what I wish you guys could do the weekend at the very least. It was fantastic. Because I love, okay, so what I love, I've said this many times on the show,

I like a loud, douchey pool party where the music, the bass is hitting, and I love the outside of the weekend's maze because they're blasting it as if it's like a Vegas pool party. Do you get this any better than we do? We've never understood why you like this. I actually, i hate that but but i can but of course i can access the irony you know i don't even know i mean there's irony there but i don't even know if it is irony i think i was trying to analyze this too because

we've tried to figure out what it is and why i like it i like to go to almost any concert doesn't matter if i won't pay necessarily but if it was free and I don't have anything to do, I'll go. You name the band, I'll go. Okay. The Beatles. I'm there. I'll see them.

Okay. A Beatles tribute band where John talks about... John talks about himself in the third person. John talks about John's death in the third person. Yes. But also,

when we're talking about Transformers, a ride that pummels you, I think I have like a sensory – like I like a lot of stimulation. I like to check on the phone. I have all these alerts. I think my brain is better when it's getting hit with a lot. You're a fast boy. I'm not saying I'm a fast – Ooh, a new term.

Well, I am a fast boy. But I think it's probably like to try to keep the bad thoughts out or something. Keep it away. Keep getting pummeled with stimuli and a variety of stimuli so I don't have to sit with myself for too long. I think it extends to Transformers

getting the shit kicked out of me on that ride. Like a pool party where music is unbearably loud. I don't want bad thoughts. I'm a fast boy. Stimulate me. Yeah. It does sound like an awful club song. I don't want bad thoughts.

If we can sample that and make a beat out of that. If somebody in the audience could sample what Scott said, and I think it's done now i think it's already been done at this point run for president and then if it ends with jason saying send me your only fans password that'll be the end of it you gotta go picture i think we'll have a hit on our hands uh so i think that's what it is i think that's it I would not do that like three days in a row At Vegas but I like one couple hours there

I mean I don't have an opinion About The Weeknd at all Like he's somebody that's not really in my consciousness But then when I was waiting in line I was like oh wait I actually like all these songs The songs are all pretty good I don't go out of my way to listen to them But if they're just on yeah

I'm like oh yeah these are But the vibe of it was Pretty like chic For a haunted house And it was It was very like MTV movie awards That was the energy of it Yeah because you would see

A big elaborate stage picture For a performance With like dummy weekends or something. And there was like full of the maze was full of like fake weekends and dead weekend. Little Richard. The weekend looked a lot like Little Richard. The hair especially. Like it was a weird like this is actually Little Richard.

They bought like last minute Little Richards. And we're like, yeah, this will have to do. Uh-huh. And it's like you go into like a club room and there's like a lady dancing. Yeah. And then she gets her throat slashed. It was just, I didn't know what to expect.

I was like, The Weeknd, that's going to be my least favorite room because who cares? I mean, thing, because who cares about this? You know, this just feels like America. Like this is just America. See, this is where we're different. I heard Weeknd Maze. I go, it's going to be my favorite one.

And I was right. Well, because I couldn't even imagine what that would mean, you know? But then the fact that it had this sort of 80s, like, it felt like a clubby, like, 80s music video. Yes, that is what it felt like. With lots of lasers and lots of mirrored things. A big casino, like a big slot machine. You walk in, there's a big slot machine, like, machine it was so elevated for a for a haunted house it looks so good and then there was a whole plastic surgery there's sort of like an la nightmare too like a

lot of there's a woman that was like carving out a man's face and then being like he's so hot and just kept saying he's so hot over and over and over. And I was like, all right, this is kind of cool, actually. I like this. So that was good delivery. That was great delivery. Horror Nights, the Laurie, the Jamie Lee Curtis, Groundlings edition was great. Got some people, got some pretty people in there,

some SAG people. The big highlight, too, for the weekend maze is that you go in the Super Bowl rooms. You go in through the Super Bowl maze mirror rooms with the GIF. We've seen the GIF of the weekend where he's lost and putting his arms up.

It's so fun to be in the Super Bowl room. Is it the most iconic moment or is it the most iconic room? There was the Dr. Dre Snoop Dogg where they had rooms like there's little set pieces. You're asking what is the most iconic room because there was the dr dre snoop dog when they had rooms like there's little set pieces you're asking what is the most iconic super bowl room yes that is what i'm asking but there's been a couple of these lately yes it's not timberlake because he came out

of a room and it was it was boring in there okay you're right it's not it he's at the bottom of the list was katie perry in a room at the Super Bowl? She had the shark. We know the shark. I don't remember. She must have been in a room at some point in her life. That's true. But on camera in the halftime of the Super Bowl?

I don't think so. Aerosmith and Britney Spears and NSYNC? No rooms. Just on stage. Rooms are new. Super Bowl rooms are in the last four years. Yeah, Prince was not in a room. Springsteen, not in a room.

We didn't have the technology. You could only film from up above. Yeah, this was the first. I guess I was excited because it was like, it's not just you're going to be in a room you've seen a movie. Now you're seeing a room that you've seen on the Super Bowl. Yeah. So that's what was exciting about it for me.

A different type of room. Yeah, a different type of room. Famous room. I feel like the room hit you harder than the room hit a lot of other people. That's possible. Jason, what did you think about this room? I thought this house, I thought. No, no, no.

I mean the weekend. Specifically the room. Were you ever like, boy, the room. I clocked the room. I did clock the room. You did clock the room. I clocked the room. I did clock the room. You did clock the room. I remembered it from the Super Bowl. His other big performance, summer 2020, he did the MTV, was it the, I think, Music Video Awards.

And he- The Video Music Awards. Video Music Awards. VMAs. And he- Biggest event of the year. Was kind of, he was on the top of this building. I looked it up.

It's called The Edge. It is a hundred story skyscraper in New York. And he was like stumbling around like the helipad. And then a helicopter was also circling him in the air. There wasn't a ton of new items in the summer of 2020. There wasn't a lot of new media. So it was just like, oh, yes. Terrific.

I don't even know what this is. I've not seen this. Oh, it's great. Okay. I'll go home and watch it. He was on top of the Hollywood sign with Lana Del Rey, too, right? Wasn't that something they did? Yeah, something like that.

He's got to get down. And then he's also wearing Uncut Gems. With the weekends in Uncut Gems? Isn't that the weekend in Uncut uncut gems that's adam sandler oh i said the star oh yeah you idiot yeah it's the weekend am i crazy audience is gonna tear you up for that one dude i can see how you thought that though i forget uh where where i heard this i feel like i read it a couple of places at this point, but the opening night, someone went through the maze, and when they came out, someone else was like,

hey, you know that room where there was a few weekends stabbing people or something? One of those fake weekends was the weekend. Sure. That was actually him. Yes, weekend. He's having the thing with Sandler's girlfriend in Uncut Gems in the bathroom.

Oh, okay. With Julia Fox. Mike, I knew that. I was playing pretend. That was a trick. That was a haunt for you. Oh, I was scared. I was being gaslit.

Yeah, the Weekend, that was the highlight. I mean, the After H did you go did you see it what's the no what's the after hours so they oh above jurassic above jurassic world week so yeah i couldn't even look at it it was so busy i got really excited because they had turned it into like a neon red bar of some kind which of course it wasn't anything that special but they called it the weekends after hours bar so so that was enough for me. I was like, yeah, let's go run up the stairs. The line was insane.

Did you get in? No. Well, because there was no time to do anything else. So literally I was like, I will wait for this, but the problem is we'll run out of time. I saw a few videos of people who had gone and recorded houses and stuff on media night.

I think it was the Ordinary Adventures one. They were like, the wait for the weekend bar is 90 minutes. It was like the longest wait for anything. Yeah, but they did bring pizza fries out to Hollywood. Oh, I didn't even know that. Yeah. This was a thing that people were talking

about. This is a Florida thing that we hadn't had before. It is a Florida thing? This is a Florida thing. That we hadn't had before? It is french fries with marinara sauce and mozzarella and pepperoni. And you could get it at the After Hours Bar? Yes, and apparently it was only at the After Hours Bar this year. That's also such an inconvenient, like the balcony of the Jurassic Park restaurant

is not the easiest crowd flow location. Yeah, that's true, but it's a great location. Oh, great location. That's like it's a beautiful. Jurassic Patty is my favorite place. I would get married there. God. You're absolutely right.

It feels like it's a little bit of Hawaii paradise. Yeah. Right? And born in LA, right? I really like it. I don't need to go there. Do you know any sort of girl boss-esque scientist who could perform the ceremony? Someone who's seen murder.

Yeah. But runs a business. But made her stronger. Would love to go back to our old place of employment. Someone who adopted a cloned girl and moved to the forest with her old co-worker. The terror tram. Oh, we-worker. The terror tram. Oh, we got to talk about terror tram. That's maybe my second favorite thing.

Really? I didn't. It could have been. They could have fleshed out more. But I really liked. Yeah, the nope area was amazing. Yeah. That was really cool.

But then you're going. So the terror tram takes you if you don't. I mean, because you were a tram conductor at one point. I did, and I worked the Terra Tram. I've never been to a haunt just as an attendee, but I did drop people off to get scared. Well, when they drop you off, this time around you walk through a lot of just kind of, like, it was weird how low quality a lot of it was. There was an area that was just cutouts of like cats, just pictures of cats. And then there were people dressed as cats scaring you.

And there was just a track that was just like over and over. And it was like, this is not the Horror Nights I love. And then you get to the cootles and you get to this. I mean, it's incredible that you get to walk through the Psycho Motel. It's just incredible that you get to – like, that feels insane that you're able to just walk around at the Psycho Motel. So, yeah, you get on the tram. It's like the normal, like, tram that they do for the tram tour where they show you the movie, the magic of the movies. But they've got a new video and they introduce you to a new character uh that they put that they say is like

an old universal character i think they've perhaps done it before this character has been there before i was googling and there seemed to be a history in a way that made it seem like this is not all new to the internet okay so i apologize uh kudels is presented by eli roth as well oh from the twisted mind of Eli Roth? From the visionary. Okay. The dark visionary mind of Eli Roth. All right.

So there's a clown named Koodle Scott. I don't know if you, this is a little, do you want to look him up maybe? See if you would find him scary. But like Koodle's, they're like, oh, he was an old clown around the, was he on the set or was he in the tram? He was like the fun tram mascot i believe they're talking about something like that oh they're reap they're presenting it like in the 60s or something there was this fun character okay okay gotcha um and then he likes to he like went missing and he started killing tram operate tram tour scott nelson those were their names

because my my tram lady was like, and if we see Scott Nelson. I can't make sure to keep those names alive. And yeah, then they dump you right in front of the start of a maze. And there's Koodles is right out there. I thought they were going to hide Koodles, but they don't. They don't hide Koodles. Yeah. He's just waving to you.

And then you pretty quickly walk through the B baits motel yeah up to the how baits house i guess i always think about how crazy it is that there is a house like just on top of the hill that looks down at that war of the worlds plane crash just the back oh yeah if you look out the back yeah just see somebody lives there yeah i mean it's amazing yeah that's your view and that at one point in time probably the owner of that house had just like picturesque yeah view of the valley and then woke up one morning to a plane crash oh god it's been smoking every day since smoking plane crash uh uh so yeah you walk through the bates motel you're getting scared koodles like there's many people playing koodles spoiler alert uh you're getting scared. Koodles is, like, there's many people playing Koodles. Spoiler alert.

You're getting scared. Like, people are coming in and out of rooms. Like, that's all pretty fun. And then you walk up, and they ask you, do you want to take a photo with Norman? Yeah, I saw some people doing it. Did you? Of course I did. I love to take photos with characters. And they give you a very specific instruction that I did not hear.

They said, do not kiss Norman. And I said, hell no, I'm kissing the man on the lips. And I gave a Bugs Bunny style kiss when I grabbed his head. They said, do not step on the stairs. I did not hear this. I walked next to Norman almost on the stairs and Norman B hear this oh i walked like next to norman almost on the stairs and norman bates in character goes don't stand on my stairs wow and i go oh oh i'm so sorry i'm so sorry but then he stayed there of course and took the photo so and and i could feel why because the

steps are not like they feel rickety i don't know why they wouldn't make those. I don't know why they wouldn't make those stronger. I don't know why they wouldn't fix it. But it definitely felt like it could break right through. That's probably why. That'd be kind of fun if you broke through. Fantastic. If I broke the cycle house. Well, if it all collapsed off of you.

Like a poltergeist. Like a poltergeist imploded. Like a poltergeist. Leaving only you standing. Like it all collapses perfectly around you. Whoops. So you get to meetan and take the photo with him which for horror nights he really should be attacking you if i had a gripe i understand it's fun to take a photo with him but it should be like you take a photo with like mother's skeleton right he attacks you earlier yeah it's also huge he's

one of those characters where anthony perkins is just so norman bates that it's not an interchangeable it feels there's something about how he just looks like a realtor or something there's just something about him that didn't let me find the photo let me see how what the like how the likeness i mean i don't know who you got but my norman my norman was a little is that why you didn't take the photo? Because you were like, this doesn't feel right. It's amazing they do find a good amount of people to do that. It's really specific. I mean, he's kind of just a guy,

but like, I don't know. I've seen way better. Slender, pale. I wonder if they have like... There's a lot of wiry gay men who moved to LA and need a job. Some six foot five. Are you going through your Rolodex? Who do I know who could be a normal couple? He looks like someone else

Somebody help me out here A little David Schwimmer perhaps? Yeah, a little bit like Schwimmer He's not bad That's not the kind of guy How many knives do we give him on the Norman? He gets eight knives out of ten He looks like a man supporting cast member

He's got the pomade like hair. Yeah. My guy was like a Dylan Baker type. It wasn't the same. A Dylan Baker's character. Yeah. The happiness house? The happiness house.

When are we going to have the movies we want? That's what it is. John Lovitz's corpse. Oh, no. He was so sad. The Lady Bird House. Oh, wow.

Lady Bird House. You can hear them fighting, but also making up and getting along. Gummo, ride it out. The Gummo House. Oh, my God. Ordinary people. Colon, inordinary people. ride it out oh my god yeah ordinary people colon in ordinary people ordinary people rising so then you go from the baits house you go to war of the world set and i can't it's that's before the cats i i agree with you the cats part is very confusing yeah the cats and then bats and then you

and then you walk down the hallway that has pictures of bats. And then there are men with bats. Yes. They're just like, okay. So you're just making any connection. Okay. I don't. Yeah.

I liked that we were outside, I think. I was like, you know, it's a nice night. It was a nice night. My night was also nice. But then you get to Nope Land. And that was amazing. It's the whatever that's called, the town. Yeah, it's the like Jupiter's Clam.

Yeah, and it's all, but it's Nope mashed up with the Us. That's interesting. Because the Us jumpsuit people are out with the scissors. Because you can't really do anything. Like Nope is about looking up in the sky. There's no scare people for no reason. Those creatures are pretty delicate and hard to reproduce in any meaningful way. You'd have to really pull out some stops to make a spaceship.

Yeah, can't really make a house with the shots. Even just from the trailer, it's all open spaces and pastures and mountain towns. Yeah, so they put the us. And us was one of my favorite mazes whenever that was. open spaces and pastures and mountain towns. Good move. Us was one of my favorite mazes whenever that was. Also, I think, was Jordan interviewed on the tram too before? I'm trying to think.

They showed a clip of the zombie monsters. Oh, really? They promoted zombie monsters on the tram. Oh, interesting. Maybe there was an interview with Jordan? There was a cut-up featurette of him talking about all his movies. Yes, that's right. It was just a promo energy.

But what I really want to talk about is my pal Rob Zombie and his new monsters movie. Passing the torch. I'm retiring. I know I had a good run there, but I know it's not getting better than that. No one can fill my shoes. Did they ever do it? I'm retiring. I know I had a good run there, but I know it's not getting better than that. No one can fill my shoes. Did they ever do this? I'm asking more questions I don't know the answer to.

Did they ever, was there ever part of the terror tram where they took you to the Munster's house, which is on the Wisteria Lane? A little far. Yeah. Because then you're hoofing it up the hill. That'd be the hardest part to walk. And you've got to dress it up. You've got to redress it like the Munster's house.

Yeah. Maybe move it and rebuild it. You should know this. Which Desperate Housewife lived in the Munster's house? This was literally my audition. And I don't... It was so hard for me. Every time. I'm sure I've said this before.

But just remembering. And then the Blue House is the home of Brie, played by Marsha Cross. Is that one right? Did I get that one right? I don't know that the details

are right, but Marsha Cross was the actor. Who played Brie, or was just on the show? What's that? It was Terry Hatcher. Yes, Terry Hatcher is one of them. I don't remember her, but this was all required. There's things as a tour guide that you can say if you want, but they really cut a deal with Desperate Housewives. You have to say all of these names, the actress and the character and the house.

And God, I would just melt down having to remember these five names of a show I don't watch. Anytime I was on the tram, that would usually felt like there was a little bit of a buzz every time we'd go down Wisteria. That felt like, for a while, that was the draw. People were like, oh, wow, okay. The Golden Girls house, too? Is that there? No. That was Disney World for a while. Even though it was really weird because the Golden Girls predated the theme park. So like,

wait a minute, why is it here? They built like a fake Golden Girls house for the exterior. It isn't the house because it would have, they'd make the show if they didn't have this. There was other shows that went with Stereo Lane, I can't remember them. Scott, you should know all of them, of course.

Animal House TV show? Might have been the Munsters house too. The Munsters house was repurposed yeah yeah it was i know that for a fact i know that and then they were also i was there when they were this is another story i've told before uh they were they had built a new house at the end of wisteria lane for the mockingbird lane pilot for the singer uh fuller monsters jerry o'connellConnell show. So they were like, and now we're building a new Munsters house for this new show called Mockingbird Lane. I have no memory of this.

This is my second part of the show. It's only come up a lot of times lately. We just love the... Look, we're all big brand singers. Obviously you want to talk about them as much as possible. I'm sure we've talked about... I just wanted to know which Desperate Housewife lives in the Munsters house. That's obviously you want to talk about him as much as possible. I just, I'm sure we've talked about, I just wanted to know

which Desperate Housewife lives in the Munsters house. That's all I want to know. That's why I asked the question. And if you could walk into the house on a trailer tram, that would be fun.

Maybe if the zombie movie is popular. What's the zombie movie? The Rob Zombie Munsters movie. You tell me, you all would know more than I do.

It was in the top 10 what else I don't know if there's any more green lights left in LA after that movie well they moved them to Croatia

where they shot right right right do you think anybody can film whatever they want as long as they go to Croatia there was a I'm trying to think

just other hits real quick they had a few more like original usually it's all all IP they had an original I should look up what the name of it the hotel one I like that one which is cool and they had a few more like original usually it's all IP they had an original I should look up what the name of it the hotel one which is cool and they had like original characters

and like it was very Tower of Terror like very old time Hollywood serial killer who kind of looked like Two-Face and he would just attack you in every room I have his name somewhere let me find it sorry I'm trying to think of...

I'm still trying to find out who lived in the monster's house. I'm also working on that. Everybody's looking up shit. We gotta be here. We gotta be present. You have to be present. I'm putting this down, Dan. You can look up what you were looking up. I'll find it later. This is for me. I'm pulling myself out of this. I'm looking everybody back in the eye.

We're all looking. All of us glued to our devices. That's fine. When we do the episode where you do the whole tour, you will have to have that piece of information. I am going to feel the same pressure I felt in 2006. And then, like, it's still right now in my head, one of the names is Paula.

And I don't think there's a paula desperate housewives her brief sitcom was filmed can we punch this because we've been teasing this for years that scott's gonna do the full tour as an episode can we just get one of our friends who are currently working on the lot and this we just jump in a golf cart and we just shoot a video of you doing it on a golf cart for us? Sure. That would be great. I'm there. It's up to one of our lot friends. How good of friends are they?

I think we can do it. I think that's cute. That's content. That's what our tough athletic listeners want to hear. That's what they're doing with the battle ropes. Damn, Scott's crushing these Desperate Housewives facts.

It's really motivating me to keep roping. So I'm still trying to find the name of this. The killer's name is really fun, and I've completely lost it. So somebody's got to say something. Well, I don't know what else to do, because I didn't go there. Somebody else is going to have to say

something else that happened. It was something. I don't know what else to do because I didn't go there. Somebody else is going to have to say something else. It was great. I love haunted houses when they feel like real places and it felt like a real hotel. That's what I liked about the Us. It's like you're in a living room. Yeah, and especially when there weren't people. Sometimes there'd be no scare actors in the room and you'd just be walking through an open house. And you're just like, this is actually the scariest thing you can imagine the universal um hotel house that is where the walking dead used to be we say that yeah and man these lines at universal are out of control i don't know how people i was

i we bought the like express passes and i feel like people who didn't buy them only did like three things it's or you just or you have to commit to it's we it's after hours bar and that's it yeah you have to do yeah if you don't have the express you have to like get there either early or like stay pretty late because if you stay pretty late everything gets the way it's midnight though right no two i think okay well then yeah maybe you can do it. Okay, I finally have the name. It is Maximilian DeVille. Which couldn't be more on the nose.

That's definitely the first. It's Cruella's brother. It's Cruella's brother, Maximilian DeVille. Oh, you know what's good? Don't ever point at me. I'm so sorry. I got too excited. Now, this is how to do a mic impression. It's the eager points. There's a lot of that. Two-finger point.

And it's usually yelling about a 60s sitcom or about a soda that Jason hasn't had yet. And he's like, I'm going to have it tomorrow. Well, you've got to have it today. Well, Jason will give me a point back. You guys get in a lot of point duels. That's what the listeners don't know. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, did you do the Death Eaters?

Oh, walking through Harry Potter? Yes, yeah. That was the highlight. I take it back. That was my favorite thing of all of them. It was up there with the weekend for me. Because they do scary Death Eater people with the wands and whatever. And there's all this green laser.

There's a lot of smoke. You walk through the back of Diagon Alley or Hogsmeade whatever it is and suddenly there's like all this smoke and then there's all these death eaters and there's somebody doing like a big performance yeah they've all got wands it just I felt I felt like I was in Harry Potter it is it is good and it's not like nobody scares you yeah like nobody jumps out really but they're like in like a little corner and like smoke is shooting up and the green is there. And you can just like hang out. And it's like a very good atmosphere. It just reminded me how much I love Harry Potter.

I haven't connected to that love in a while. Sure. Any reason? Yeah. No. Just a preference. Okay. All right.

To answer your question, how do people just get to the... I think if you really want to do this and you want to spend $200 for one night, you can get a frequent fear pass or an ultimate fear pass. And the ultimate fear pass, you can go every night of the month. And the other one, you can go... You only have 27 nights you are able to go how much is the ultimate fear pass and will you do it with me next year and get the ultimate fear get the ultimate fear it's 329 okay hopefully it doesn't go up too much next year when

we do it and we'll go every night oh no yeah no. Yeah, we have to. So it's a difference between... We've got to eat somewhere. It says up to 27 nights or up to 33 nights. So you're really only getting another week. Okay. Well, next year we'll do it. You guys, you only have pizza fries for 27 nights in a month. Well, that's your supersize, man. That's not too bad. I'm trying to think what other real

quick well uh mazes uh killer clowns was back yeah we did that before the scarecrow one i don't know oh yeah yeah but it was yeah the one the thing i liked was the birds poop on you you walk through yeah there's a bunch of birds and like water's falling and you get shit on yeah it's good did you guys see this giant crow creature like bird creature with a top hat on stilts that was like skulking around? That looked pretty cool. You'd have liked that. That was Crowena.

You didn't even have to look it up. You just had Crowena. Just pulled it. Sorry, I almost forgot. There's a very aggressive flames that shoot out when you're on the main drag of Universal, which I like. They're blasting some sort of metal music, usually. Yeah.

It almost feels a little like the wrong tone for it. I agree. I'd never like metal ever. But especially, that's the side of Halloween that I'm like, no, no. Yeah, like Slash. I mean, it's like Slash is wailing on the guitar.

I think that's what it is. At least in previous years, it's been Slash. It should be like Danny Elfman energy in that area. Like it should be like, you know,

you should feel like welcome to the world of movies. He's shredding on guitar lately. Have you seen this? He's shredding his body. He's shredding. He looks like a pro wrestler. Yeah. He's shredding on guitar lately. Have you seen this? He's shredding his body. He looks like a pro wrestler. He's on the battle ropes. He's playing at the bowl in a couple weeks.

He's looking like Carrot Top. He has bright shock of red hair. Is that the word? Shock? Shock. He has a flock of red hair. He has several red-headed birds. A few birds on his head.

He's got red hair. He's very vascular. He's so vascular. He's very baby in Jack. He's doing the not drinking water for 24 hours to get vascular. He's playing the Simpsons theme on rock guitar, or at least somebody in the band is.

On rock guitar. Or as most people put it, guitar. Well, you can play jazz guitar. You can play rock guitar. You can play prog rock. He did Coachella, and there was the Simpsons. They started with a regular Simpsons, and then they rocked it out. But it was a metal Simpsons.

Good for him. So, yeah, good. He's playing the bowl in a few weeks. I'm not going to go to that. I'm scared he's going to jump out and eat my face. He looks like a zombie now. He's frightening. And, again, then he does the Oingo Boingo song at the end.

I take back that he looks like. I would love to work with him. He's a legend. Absolutely. I mean, it really solidified in my mind that I just love Horror Nights. Horror Nights is how I feel about Universal, where, like, even though I've been a million times, I still am transported to the movie magic world. And Knott's has, like, special, it has, like, special DIY, like, if the whole town comes together, we'll pull it off, like, energy. Yeah, yeah.

And then Six Flags just felt like like a coke commercial from 1992 it's the same coke it's the same pallets of coke the same machines yeah mrs uh mrs taz is in the commercial with a bikini yeah you were helping you were helping build the confidence of some very scared you were actually you were the scary element by just uh being older than them and walking past them so you really helped them overcome their fear with the employees they're already confused because all the fixtures and buildings are sun bleached everywhere they turn. They haven't seen a Sherman Williams paint store in their life. Real quick before we go,

the biggest thing that I realized the night of the Knott's event was that there is now a Taco Bell in the Walmart by the Portillo's in Buena Park. And this is very exciting to me. But you didn't get Taco Bell. You just hung out there.

I just was, I stopped at a Walmart. You didn't even cruise to join. This was, if anyone saw this tweet, this was true, that I just, I hadn't seen my phone in an hour. I went and looked at it, and there was the text exchange, oh my God, has the Taco Bell in the Buena Park Walmart always been there? No response from us.

No, it's new. You answered to yourself. Yes. I said, wow, it's new. I was just like, straight to Twitter. This is such a Mike encapsulated thing. I was not being performative at all. This was literally just my reactions in real time and then Scott

posted it without my consent to Twitter. Thought about asking, but... That's fine. I'm not upset. I was excited to learn that there was now... There was something in there before, and I forget what it was. I think it was a Subway. Why do you know what was in the Walmart

in Buena Park? I know there's things you like in Buena Park, like Knott's Berry Farm and the Pirate Show, but the Walmart is a Walmart. Well, yeah. Statistically, it's likely it was a subway in there most of them have subways in there i just have not seen a taco taco bell in a walmart before so i was excited by that it's just that walmart walmart x taco bell in x point of park how was the energy was everyone excited it was not well

people were not there like like they had the key they had the new like ipad system for ordering but people were not ordering there hang on you went in but didn't get food from there well we were going to knots and i knew there was some event at the johnny rockets but why'd you go in just to see i had to go to the use the bathroom i know anyway and i also went in to check for the toys oh but i did. I think I went in there mainly to use the bathroom, but also I have to check the toys. And I did get something from my friend. I found a mummy toy that he was looking for.

Tom Cruise mummy? No, they don't do this. Oh, okay. No one's done those. So you got an Elizabeth Moss Invisible Man toy? Yes. From another world. One of the last new releases from the old world there are

rob zombie monster toys coming though and i have one of them for the rest of our lives yeah forever 10 10 a year we're all gonna get gifted them so many times well charles what say what takes the cake then it seems like universal is the winner overall it feels unfair because they are the most financed entity but yeah it just does it's just i loved it i really loved it and uh everybody had fun it was pretty funny in a very fundamental way i'm so curious i really this i i i say all i know is that i say pants instead of like pants. Funny pants. Pants. Welcome to my world, soccer. It really sounds like a guy.

That's your Tina Fey book. That's your bossy pants. Funny pants. It's funny because they sound like one of the goring 20s characters, I feel like. Yeah. Funny pants. Yeah, Chicago was the birthplace of the 20s. Those clowns' pants get funnier and funnier and funnier every year.

Well, so happy to have you. So happy to have you back. After all these years. So happy to have you back, Charles Rogers. You survived to podcast The Ride. Let's exit through the gift shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug i'd love to invite everyone in america to come see what i'm developing on my laptop and google docs okay so if you see if you know what charles looks like and you see

him somewhere then you're you're fine with everybody over that shoulder yeah if you see me type type typing in a cafe peek over my shoulder yeah if you're fine with everybody looking over your face. If you see me type, type, typing in a cafe, peek over my shoulder. If you're by the coffee bean on Hillhurst. Trying to get the green light. You can just watch Search Party while you can. Yes.

Now we know all our listeners are so fast. Hurry to HBO Max. Make sure you watch it and it should i've told you this this is speaking of speed it is the fastest i've ever watched anything like as soon as i began i better get the gist of these thumbnails so i can bring it up uh oh yeah there's my friend oh yeah there's my friend yeah yeah all right so if i run into these people i can say i saw it uh no i love the show so much just devoured it and that's the thing since you realized you may you did a ride sequence if listeners if you haven't already watched search party and you need an in that's true yes that

it would you you that's a real dream come true to get to do like a shot super elevated oh wait oh well i mean there's all I mean, there's all. Oh, my God. There's all of that. But there's also which. Wait a minute. We talked about the park. Is that the Long Island?

Are we allowed to talk in the gift shop like this? Yeah, we can. We can meander. We can loiter in the gift shop. Was that an Adventureland or where did you? That was Adventureland. Okay. Okay.

That's right. Adventureland. Because we talked about that with John Gabrus. Big, like, storied history of stuff. lot of shooting done at adventureland yeah a lot of stuff is shot there i walked through i mean it was fun we got to we got to have the roller coaster be active for the shot we like for like the master shot so we got to run it for like 20 minutes and then like pas wrote it just wrote it over and over oh cool just for that shot yeah so that was that's cool wait yeah so i mean that's like because we talk about all the time about things that film in

theme parks yeah how would it how'd it feel to like have it it's yours for i don't know how long you were there well first of all it was supposed to be called the happy place but um and it was supposed to be like disney world but then because of clearance issues there is a happy place in universal studios in osaka there is like an area or something called the happy place and it did not clear so we had to call it mary maryland which i was just like it's not nearly as meaningful um for the story and then it just kept getting notched down from like i think we're gonna shoot not sparry farm i think we're gonna like do like a day in southern california and it just whoa yeah mean, like everything was search party.

I guess we're just shooting in New York again. But you set the bar high, and then hopefully you land somewhere in the sky along the way. Yeah. So then we settled for Adventureland. Yeah. I mean, it was fun. We made up a fake theme park. The one I meant was the

jeff goldblum the like the journey to the center of the i mean i guess that's not technically well it's like a reveal i i guess but that's like an extremely theme parky yeah yeah yeah in the that was green screen on the out you know like through the windows and then the reference i gave the art department was um the back to the future ride when you're going through the canyon like through the volcano oh yeah yeah like everything prehistoric before yeah dinosaur when you're in like the rock world a little bit because all your whole cast and jeff goldblum who is tunnel quinn that's name is so good uh you're it good it's a descent into the center of the earth

or so and then he pulls the rug out from under you and he says it's just a ride made out of centrifugal force and a bunch of heaters it's all the build up to a restaurant ultimately much like Mars 2112

and very much circling back to Jurassic World that scene that they eat dinner at is very like based on the Jurassic Park scene of them all eating dinner and we did like projections like how the projections in the room it's all like calm and logistics after like

so your minds have all just been blown and now you're you're doing jurassic homage stuff with gold bloom yeah you ultimately just realize you want to do everything you liked as a kid that's the meaning of life yeah i feel like not everybody did not everybody is like i have resources let me do little kid shit so yeah congratulations well we're all doing it on different scales i got that adult happy meal on 10 people are jerking off in their cars the little mermaid lunchboxes so everyone's doing it on some level um and you're still you know you said that your interest in haunts began

with doing them yourself in your house and now you've come to a house and put goo on us which i'm still finding on preserves i just i like about 15 minutes ago i found a preserve pocket i didn't know about the secret scares after the fact uh anyway so thanks for uh thank you all thanks for being here so happy to see you again and uh oh you can find us on all the socials at Podcast the Ride. Hauntcast the Fright merch is available in our TeePublic store. And for three bonus episodes every month, check out Podcast the Ride, the Cemetery Gate, or get one more bonus episode on our new tier, which might have been named by now.

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