Podcast: The Ride - Mike Loves Haunts with Lindsay Katai

Episode Date: October 11, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:47 And first-time haunt-goer, Lindsay Cagtime Recounting her bravery in the face of sliding and sparking scare actors Hide behind the people in front of you so you don't get the big scares It's My Gloves Haunts on HauntCast the Fright, the hauntcast about Scream Parks, ghost hosted by three headless men in their 30s. I'm, I'm Rod Skardner, joined by Mike Coffinson, updated that one, and Jason Skeason skeleton why tamper with a classic jason skeleton we've all been saying it all year yeah yeah i was sitting over here going like oh i gotta make one real quick okay he's gonna come to me oh no i took care of it for you i will raise the fake names for you uh this is yeah hey this is the first official uh
Starting point is 00:02:09 haunt cast the fright it's an abridged haunt cast the fright for anyone who's been asking us about programming information we got a lot of stuff going on we got our live tour coming up so we got those episodes to do and come see us in chicago and orlando please uh uh we're dying to see you and uh but we're doing two two haunt casts here on the main feed and two on uh the patreon patreon yeah yeah slash podcast the ride and if i can issue a spooky correction the six flags one will be out by this point it will yeah i guess so we've determined today i guess okay we could also change we could also change it look behind the pay mind uh my scary voice is don pardo uh it's behind the paywall well okay whether or not it's out if it's if it's out. If it's out already, it will be soon. Yeah. Behind the paywall, Mike is going to fill us in on a trip that he took to Six Flags Magic Mountains Fright Fest.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It's a trip that he took with a friend of the show, Anthony Gio. And you put it behind the paywall personally. Well, you don't have to say why. Well, you know, sometimes the paywall uh there's a freedom you get there's a feeling of freedom you have when you're behind a paywall uh and then he's just you know this this is a pretty we're pretty honest we're pretty candid on this main feed but you know what if you want to get a little raw or if you really want to dish it like if you want to tell it how it is that's where you go to the second gets where you go to the second gate for so yeah you want to get the dirt about six
Starting point is 00:03:49 flags fright fest go to the patreon go to podcast to ride the second gate i know that the patreon is where we've revealed pretty like grimy truths like that uh marijuana will fry your brain and uh crack and cocaine uh i don't remember this was any specific warnings enough alcohol fills your world with lies that's something that we reveal in the mcgruff episode i think most of them fill your world with lies but alcohol that's a main uh characteristic sure yeah yeah well i guess if it fills your world with lies if you're at a bar instead of uh home with your fan or if you like said like oh mom at an with lies if you're at a bar instead of home with your family. Or if you said, like, oh, mom, I'm at an emergency.
Starting point is 00:04:29 And then you were actually at a bar and you're lying to your wife. That would be a way alcohol fills your world with lies. Well, I guess you could also say, you know, probably you tell yourself lies, too. It could fill your literal world with lies. So maybe you're saying, I'm fine. Everything's fine. Cocaine makes people want to start a small business or write that fucking screenplay you know that's not in the game man let's get back in the bc game baby that should be in mcgruff's cocaine song
Starting point is 00:04:54 do some cocaine and get started on a screenplay do just enough to be Industrious make some Money then give it up for good Yeah very practical Uses of drugs He had screenwriter friends Microdosing LSD Is good for your mental
Starting point is 00:05:18 Health Look it up It's true Give you a boost you see I didn't expect to be doing mcgruff talk which is nice to nice to do uh but you know so subscribe to the patreon you'll get that that mcgruff episode which still delights me to think about but also your your candid thoughts or is what you're saying maybe if we had to extend the logic of what you're saying that the freedom of the second gate is also is maybe where we eventually talk about the the ride race through new york with jimmy fanon
Starting point is 00:05:49 oh you know that's a good idea honestly yes maybe applying that logic that might be a perfect second gate episode yeah just to be just to see it free it's just we're looser there yes looser really we can get a little bawdier you know behind that paywall um but but anyway we're here on the main feed uh with hauntcast the fright where first we want to kick things off by talking about the spookiest the most frightening experience in all of theme park world the disney skyliner transportation industrial transportation accidents yeah i mean it's still unexplained power crises what happened to the skyliners kids it's worse than doing crack and cocaine and alcohol and marijuana and paint combined. They don't got air conditioning.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Number one. You're throwing three hours of your life away. Passive ventilation. Evacuating in a cherry picker ain't no fun. The Reedy Creek Fire Department says stay away from this airborne menace. As a completist, I would like to ride in the Reedy Creek Fire Department cherry picker. Yeah. At some point in time.
Starting point is 00:07:13 On our trip, you might get called on as an emergency volunteer firefighter. Possibly. Oh, yeah. You can finally use your training from childhood. What? I don't know. Were you a Boy Scout? Oh, I was a Boy Scout.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah. Still a leap in my book. Oh, I guess so. He was, therefore, Jason's a firefighter. Yeah, I guess you're right. Sure. But if you don't know what we're talking about, we're still, we're just days away as we record this from the, well, the grand debut and the grand undoing of Disneyney world's new gondola system yeah in the
Starting point is 00:07:48 week within the soap of its official opening yeah i literally had like i i subscribed to like four or five different theme park newsletters and i still had unread ones in my inbox saying the skylighter is open as i was getting the ones that said Skyliner accident Skyliner closed indefinitely so now let's let's be clear here let's rule some if you don't know about the story I haven't read about it
Starting point is 00:08:15 already let's rule some things out had did a full car or two fall off the wire into the lake no did one go flying into the pop century hotel no no um was there a was there a fire no no um was there a crash yeah yeah yeah here's one thing i can definitely confirm from uh on twitter local or Orlando news reporter Greg Angel said, just heard from Disney spokesman. They tell us there has not been an accident. And there's a, quote, unexpected doubt time on the Skyliner gondolas.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And that's all they could say at that time. So your eyes and ears deceive you ladies and gentlemen uh if you've ever thought a major corporation in a day and age where everyone has a very good camera in their pocket to display this what i see lineup of uh this is a five this is a five skyliner pileup fuck up this is a skyliner fuck up they're gonna need to devote a roving helicopter reporter to give hourly updates skyliner traffic updates on the fives so that we know whether we can get on this damn thing or not yeah yeah so here here's what we do know it was confirmed there was not a power issue oh okay uh so what but who confirmed that can we trust the source yes well that's the other thing disney says disney tweeted out no accident no accident seven
Starting point is 00:09:52 in all caps and seven exclamation points they consulted trump on how to do it the crooked wd wnt media it's nothing but lies um cobbling together from uh screamscape theme park insider disney tourist blog uh and inside the magic here's what seems to be the verdict that at the riviera station a station at a yet to open hotel uh also say yeah what the hell's riviera uh yeah that is the new dvc hotel opening in december i think believe it also services caribbean there's technically considered one of two at caribbean beach not the main caribbean beach one that is sort of like the dispatch uh center where you change lines so this is the one on the far side but it's called the Riviera Station, a aqua-colored gondola cabin did not attach to the cable.
Starting point is 00:10:50 So this is a cable car system. The cable is constantly moving. And then when it gets into the station, they get off the cable and onto a track where they can control the speed of that. And then it can get back on the cable when it gets sent out. So it did not correctly get back on the cable, causing multiple yellow gondolas to pile up behind it,
Starting point is 00:11:14 crunching, crushing, shattering plexiglass. I bet Disney would not approve of any of those words. Hugging, caressing. Showing physical affection towards. Hundreds of people stuck in a non-moving Skyliner for hours. Also seems to be unclear what they were given. It seems like two park tickets, taxi vouchers, and either a $100 gift card or a 200 gift card so you're conflicting reports are out there i do feel like there's probably a negotiation that happened some people
Starting point is 00:11:50 just wanted to get out of there they probably took the first offer maybe they complain and some other people complained and then they got the 200 i mean i might complain uh at my hotel if this major transportation system is not running well Well, yeah. So let's talk about that. Let's talk about how this affects us. I think we wanted to experience this. Jason, you've been talking about this forever. You were so excited about the Skyliner. I love it.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Because it stops at hotels that I can afford to stay at. And the bus system, notably, kind of slow. I mean, I honestly haven't had terrible experiences with a bus system, but if you can ride a boat or a monorail or an outdoor car, brand new. A beautiful view with the character, your favorite characters painted on it. The problem with, of course, the characters is those you don't want to get on because you can't see outside the wrap. You want to be behind one with characters that you like yes you want to see coco going on
Starting point is 00:12:49 a journey in front of you right but you don't want to be in one that has a story behind you well there's an exchange though if you are in a clear regular gondola you get really good pictures but if your other gondola it's slightly cooler due to the wrap oh interesting locks out some so it's like the uv on the sunglass it's like a extra on your car right this has been a whole thing because there's no air conditioning in there and is this this is a jpeg cost cutting measure is it not well uh i looked up that too so this gondola the company who makes these gondolas uh i believe it's pronounced doppelmeyer uh they've installed they say thousands of these around the world okay the only one that is air conditioned
Starting point is 00:13:30 is uh at a wind resort in macau now macau man now macau also notorious for pulling in seven times the money Vegas does. Wow, really? With like also seven times the humidity is the joke I read about it. We have to do a Macau episode. Yeah. Or episodes. Macau is an interesting place. We got to get like much nicer suits to even walk around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah. Yeah, we got to invest. We got to grow a little thin. We got to look like Dirty Rod and Scoundrels. Oh, yeah. much nicer suit steven walk around yeah yeah yeah we gotta invest we're gonna dress and like grow a little thin must we have we gotta look like dirty rotten scoundrels oh yeah that's doable cool hats um interesting so what's the climate there i think it's very i think not dissimilar to orlando but everyone is hyper rich so it is so it's a luxury so it is a jpeg cost cutting but in other parts of asia they have these with the same cooling system as this which is just like uh it's open at the top a fan uh openings yeah and a fan and you pick up you get a cool breeze as it moves
Starting point is 00:14:41 jpeg also cut the improvisers droids and pop-up stunt shows from the cabin eyeliner yeah yeah son of a bitch that's the rescue bonfas a bonfa just stuck at the end of a cherry cherry picker he raises his tongue and you climb the board. Oh, man. So, yeah. Skyliner incident. How about incident? They can't deny the term incident.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's certainly an incident. I don't think they can. No. It seems like today, it's Tuesday as we record this, they were running, not letting people on, but they were moving, like they were testing it. So people stuck for three hours people described it as a as a traumatic experience and what i'm driving towards is that uh jason and i but you you were so excited about all this we were going to orlando soon as the listener knows and please go see us and we like i had a different hotel and you were so excited and i was like maybe i do want
Starting point is 00:15:43 to be at an official Disney hotel. Your excitement convinced me also to get, we should be on a hotel along the Skyliner line. And it occurs to me that I have not told Erin about this story. And this is how she's finding out about it right now. So, Erin, if you're listening, that gondola thing, people did get stuck for three hours. And how much do we want to risk it and get on this thing i also looked up like what had been recently refurbished in like the more value to moderate what had been refurbished what was well reviewed like what had solid amenities for like kind of a run and gun sort of trip and that's that affected my decision. You're staying in the 1880s wing of the centuries.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I wish. I wish Art of Animation had indeed been, I think it was supposed to be 1910 or 1900 to 1940 or 1910 to 1940. Can you imagine like the pop culture, like the yellow kid walking around? Oh my God. What even is... pop culture like the yellow kid walking around or like god uh what even can i flip a switch so she'll be coming around the mountain plays before i go to sleep yeah that's your favorite song that in campton races yeah um so yeah so what so what do you think are you gonna get on it oh i'm a hundred percent this just makes me want to ride it more i am not a deer i'm not i don't take a lot of chances in my life so riding the crunch machine at disney world
Starting point is 00:17:12 this is like living on the edge for me it feels like when like uh when you're as a vending machine and and all like the bags back up and like start crunching together because like this the things unfurl in a bad way yeah uh i was already because i don't like the the thing i don't like is like slow dangling that it does like that's a fear of heights thing we did the ferris wheel and i had a little bit of a panic attack and i was having the feeling like oh maybe i'm gonna do this but maybe i'm gonna have the panic attack then i saw that apparently the thing shoots you up people were saying you gotta pick up speed you pick up you shoot you like have a launch so like i have yeah it's like 15 yeah 15 miles an hour maybe yeah 15 to 20 miles an hour to launch up which again is a fine speed but to suddenly be
Starting point is 00:18:03 at the speed yeah so like you know with no restraints i feel like oh that's gonna freak me out and then potentially you're going at zero miles per hour for three hours yes that is yeah that's true so yeah i mean they could be looking or already people speculating that like they might start retrofitting these with air conditioners because like thankfully this incident happened uh between 8 and 9 p.m so it was at least a little cooler in that sense but at a certain point they did tell people lift up the seats crack open those emergency kits people had yet to go to the emergency kit now we've seen pictures of them as bags of water and there was a oddly a notepad
Starting point is 00:18:45 laid that with on the front said to write down when you start calling lawyers offices to write down who you like the best the big word on the front of the notepad was universal really i think it was the brand of it's not like it was affiliated with universal studios but just they oddly bought universal brand that's wild notebooks i did not find i checked ebay as soon as i read about the emergency kits did not find any on ebay uh but jenny jenny nicholson had a very funny tweet about a certain blog cracking open an emergency kit a few days before like not during just during like the regular operation to go like here's to do an unboxing video is what she said yes let me ask can i throw a few scenarios out at you for for doing this say the thing opens
Starting point is 00:19:38 the day we're there reopens the day we're there do you get on it right away 100 yeah okay say because it might go down again say it opens tomorrow and there's another accident in a week and then it's open the day we're there do you go on it again i i i think yes uh just because like at this point i i i just have to know. I just have to know. I mean, I was at Universal a month after Gringotts opened, and that broke down so much, and I finally got on it like the very last day, like with hours left of the park being open, and waited like three, three and a half hours.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I see. My answer is I'm going to play it by ear. We'll see what's happening that's very reasonable i would not if anyone was skeptical of this i'll say this if there's still issues with it when i check in those resort fees are gone like that is the first thing oh that is the first thing i started to have any reason to say get those resort fees out i would prefer nothing go wrong and i have a great experience so you're gonna argue that you
Starting point is 00:20:48 came to Disney World to do the Skyliner hotel Skyliner specific hotel which it's historic people have been tracking hotel prices and they clearly bumped up the rates at Skyliner hotels oh interesting
Starting point is 00:21:04 yeah okay well I guess you probably have a little bit of a case there yeah so I mean bumped up the rates at Skyliner hotels. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Okay. Well, I guess you probably have a little bit of a case there. Yeah. So, I mean, we'll see. Money back in the pocket in one scenario. Yeah. A fun ride in one scenario. In another, you lose an entire day because there aren't enough cherry pickers to go around.
Starting point is 00:21:17 But can you, Scott, can you imagine the content I would get out of getting stuck on the Skyliner for hours? Well, this is what you would have to do. I will suffer for my the sky you would have to do i will suffer for my art you would have to do what we talked about i forget if we talked about this on the show or not but you and i were on jordan jesse go yes and uh they they record in an in an older uh office building uh where there was a big like thump and we could not get any of the buttons to work or a door in the elevator yes we got stuck in the elevator for a little while and it didn't it didn't end up taking that long but there was a moment where i think jay said you said like well you were almost like well this is our night um because nobody was there it was like it could have taken like hours and hours to get us
Starting point is 00:22:01 out of there but we talked about how we i think we would have thought all right let's who can we call how do we get somebody here and then thought to let's start recording a podcast right now jason and i stuck in an elevator so if you get stuck uh on the skyliner you have to immediately begin record just a voice memo people everyone forgive the quality but yeah or i i mean instagram live twitter live uh yeah yeah yeah and you should commit to as long as you can before the battery runs out oh absolutely i guess with the live broadcast that's going to be toast in like 15 minutes well i always carry like a charging battery so i will smart i will keep everything like i will and you can maybe hot wire some of the power assuming the power isn't gone just try to reroute something from your gondola car into
Starting point is 00:22:51 your phone i mean start yanking shit and uh you know plug it in like crack a window open slide a door open dangle my pcs out i i have a feeling it's only a matter of time before doors start just opening on this thing like the monorail in Florida. Yeah, that's the other thing. The monorail has had so many like odd incidents of like stopping between stuff or power failures in the last couple of years. Crashers. Yeah. The fatality.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Terrible ones. Yeah. But so far, only one accident in the first week of the Skyliner. Let's see if not only if there are more, but if we are part of the incident number two or three or four. I would not. I would not hold it against you guys. Do not go anywhere near this thing. I'm probably going to do it, but I'm going to be a little fearful. I volunteer as tribute.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I volunteer as tribute to the Capitol. This is the bravest I've ever seen you. I, a new transportation system and it's high up. I mean, you know, I got to be up there, baby. And you might get quoted in the Orlando Sentinel. Yeah, and I might get quoted. And I might get a $300 gift card because I put my foot down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Well, I hope so Mike if you Were to do it that would make sense Because you've been on a bit of a bravery Streak yeah sure you may Love it remains to be seen Whether you love getting trapped in Skyliners but One thing we do know and I forget
Starting point is 00:24:20 If we've talked about this or not on the podcast but Apparently I what I'm seeing in my notes Is you love haunts Yeah I feel like i mentioned it like a year ago maybe sure also i've been asked if we talked about buffett's plane the hemisphere dancer which uh that's a good question to make a mistake i've been i've just like i just have like a checklist of like when are we gonna get to that on the podcast yeah i mean we're gonna do like a full episode. It's one of those things where I feel like I've mentioned it, but I probably haven't.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Maybe, maybe. Yeah, so yeah, just in case you guys didn't know, I love haunts. And Jamaica Mistake was written about the Hemisphere Dancer. You need it. Jimmy Buffett's plane that's parked outside the Margarita Valley in Orlando. Talk about haunts, Mike. You're clearly not prepared. I can't believe I'm asking you this, but talk about haunts, Mike. You're clearly not prepared. I can't believe I'm asking you this, but talk about haunts, Mike.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah. Fine, fine. Talk about haunts, unless you need a minute, in which case I have two Skyliner maps that I didn't even get around to. We're going to describe a map. We're going to describe maps. Let's keep this episode rolling. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Tell us. You've been to two haunts. Well, three. Six nights with Cheerabette on the Patreon. Yes. There's too many haunts to contain in one episode. I was going to say, you've been a big, brave boy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I continue my streak of being big and brave. And as I said on the Patreon, I've had to enlist new podcast partners in order to go to these haunts. Yeah. Mike, not Mike, that's you. Scott and Jason, nowhere to be seen nowhere to be seen not even not even a chance i feel like there's not even a chance like maybe i'll go to one of those no i think we're talking like we don't even respond to the texts yeah we're out
Starting point is 00:25:55 we're hard out yes hard out it's not just me don't you feel like i think this is a bonding between you and i jason oh i think so same attitude i I, after last year, I was like, well, maybe next year. And I just, I just wasn't feeling it. I just wasn't ready this time around. Well, and look, you know, in my defense, there's so many great entertainment options at home. Pluto TV has an allican gladiators channel uh an all adams family channel uh an all baywatch channel not to keep bringing that up but uh with a myriad of entertainment options at home why would i yet let teenagers scream at me yeah why
Starting point is 00:26:38 now mike can you tell us we actually you walked the dog and we talked about pluto tv for a while so we're just on the brain yes what is is adams family all the different the cartoon version the Can you tell us? We actually, you walked the dog and we talked about Pluto TV for a while. Pluto TV. Pluto's on the brain, yes. What is, is Adam's family all the different, the cartoon version, the original version and the movies? No, no, no. John Astin. It's just the original version.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah. It's just, yeah. That's fun though. They just like randomize episode. They go in and I think it's because of, because it's October. They, they, they put on a spooky channel. There is, there does seem to be year round and all Wahl a spooky channel. There does seem to be year-round an all-Wallburgers channel. It is becoming like people's parody
Starting point is 00:27:09 of where we thought cable was going. You're skimming through channels. Like 153 Wallburgers? That's it? Is there ever like Wallburgers behind the scenes, commentaries, Wallburgers the movie?
Starting point is 00:27:24 No, it's only the show wall burgers over and over again so pluto tv is truly the future i would have to say so that's sort of the future we all envision depending on how much wall burgers you wanted in your future then yeah the future is now well that sounds fun i'm glad you were having a good time while i was at these haunts watching a great television entertainment um so yes, let's start with Horror Nights. There's a lot to get through, so I'll just try to hit highlights. was more hardcore than the one in los angeles um but i don't think he'll mind me saying this a guest friend of the show uh zach rider uh went to horror nights for two hours out here and he had already done orlando and he said scarier out everything was scarier out here really he said the scare actors were much more intense he felt like it was more hardcore so i was wrong about that so
Starting point is 00:28:23 i guess i'm going into some sort of a lightweight scare zone in orlando so anyway um jason and scott are not we will do something else maybe that's our night to get stuck in the skyliner well maybe yeah that's yes i mean you get stuck somewhere you could get stuck in the hemisphere takes too long at cowfish you could get in the hemisphere you could get stuck in the hemisphere dancer Dinner takes too long at Calfish. You could get in the hemisphere. You could get stuck in the hemisphere dancer while he's flying over Jamaica. It's really the original original airborne
Starting point is 00:28:53 trapped story. Yeah. So I got this very nicely invited by Universal. There was a red carpet for Horror Nights. Oh, right. Immediately excited because who did i spot on the red carpet but mr dan akroyd uh one of my favorite not playing the blues but playing uh but wearing an outfit he would play the blues in a vest a purple dress shirt um being interviewed because
Starting point is 00:29:20 of course ghostbusters it's making its premiere at horror nights and which comes up just a couple times i am pretty sure part of the deal of getting ghostbusters was having the crystal head vodka be an unofficial drink of horror nights because i had it at anti he i can never is it anahitos that's how you pronounce it and then i also had it at the actual event uh so he must have he's wheeling and dealing he's trying to get that pure uh crystal head vodka which is he said on joe rogan you know you can have you have six shots of it no hangover like he's very clear it's pure and it's also poured over like mythical stones like there's magic stones they pour the vodka over and it's a whole thing and it's uh uh what where you're that's gonna do another part we'll do a whole patreon on the crystal head vodka and dan and i did i would be interested in the mysticization yeah i'm interested in the
Starting point is 00:30:15 yeah but i can't i i should have written it down but uh anyway go to the joe rogan pie we always recommend joe rogan's podcast on this podcast but i go to listen to dan akroyd's interview um also it'll be the day when we have a guest who had who has also been on the joe rogan pocket there's no crossover in that venn diagram joe hasn't interviewed tony baxter i don't i don't believe so okay only uh no no we have no we have garland did... Garland did it. Garland did it? Yeah, yeah. So we have had it. Oh, no shit. All right, one. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:46 We got one. One unifying element. Wow. Well, I'm proud of that. Yeah. So we do have a crossover. Next stop, Bernie Sanders. Yeah, we've got Sanders lined up for end of October to talk about Coney Island.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I didn't like it. Too silly. Unpleasant. Distracted from work. So also on the red carpet, you know, Jason Blum and just a random Jabberwocky. Just one. Just one Jabberwocky. Now, I ran out of time to do both the shows at these both places. I didn't see the Jabberwockies.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I did not see Brian Henson's Puppet Up. Oh, I have seen that before. And people rave about it, but we did not have time to do all of it. I think I've talked about one of my first jobs was like an intern PA at the HBO Comedy Festival. And Puppet Up was like one of the big shows that year. And so I had to help them pack up their like... Puppets? Their trunks of piles of
Starting point is 00:31:48 puppets like just piles of loose puppets in the trunks and stuff well then they weren't in there saying like watch it mister nope it was just piles of muppety kind of puppets but everyone was really nice well that's good uh anyway i think I'm gonna go back to Knott's So I'm gonna do another Scary farm Oh sure Night before the season's over So I will see Puppet up
Starting point is 00:32:11 I will give a report So anyway So I went there with my buddy Horror Nights excuse me With my buddy Luke My childhood friend He'll be on the show I think he should probably do
Starting point is 00:32:21 The Tommy Bartlett's Robot World Wisconsin Dells episode Whoa Just calling that shot now Okay Wow Anytime whenever we get to that think he should probably do the tommy bartlett's robot world wisconsin dells episode whoa just calling that shot now uh anyway anytime whenever we get to that uh and he is like a recent scare he was sort of a scaredy cat like i was we both grew up similar scaredy cat situations um so we met up with carly and eventually wind up wisell you're saying carly wisell and eventually We wind up with Wiesel, you're saying? Carly Wiesel and eventually Todd Martins from LA Times.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Geez, all the theme park people know each other. We had a little group going. And he is not a scare guy. And neither is Carly. So we went we immediately, so the thing with Horror Nights in LA, like a lot of the rides is, you know, it's about
Starting point is 00:33:03 20 minutes plus to walk to the front to the downstairs area so we want to do good they were saying basically we're going to do ghostbusters first maybe killer clowns and that's it we're out okay so we all walk down to ghostbusters now ghostbusters is the farthest away it possibly could be is it on this back lot yes so you have to walk all the way through the park down the star excuse me, the starway. Oh, motherfucker. Yeah. And he goes, no smoking
Starting point is 00:33:34 on the starway. That includes weed. Don't sit on my stair edge. I'll slice your butt. I'm coughing now from doing that voice i wanted to do more yeah there was mcgruff earlier we gotta be we gotta be careful with the instruments yeah yeah so so uh so we went down the star way i was like don't do it don't try doing jimmy duranty
Starting point is 00:33:56 i leave that to jason uh so i i also silenced everyone so we could hear the announcement say weed I was like shh everyone's gonna say weed and then it said weed and I was very excited so we did Jurassic World I didn't know that that IREX is gone there's just a blanket up where it should be on Jurassic World IREX whatever it's called
Starting point is 00:34:19 Indominus Rex what's it called oh yes Indominus Rex yeah it's just it's there's it's like i supposedly they're gonna put the real version in but the i-rex that owen grady and claire deering are trying to avoid yes and that t-rex saves you from um so that's hopefully going to get installed anyway so then at this point i didn't know where any of these mazes were so you go down by transformers and then take a right and then you have to walk forever into a tunnel which is a scare tunnel
Starting point is 00:34:46 yeah the toxic tunnel scare zone right toxic tunnel scare zone yes i now i know about this from friends of the show uh marissa strickland justin michael clown on this that like they have made fun of the toxic tunnel to me and even the copy on the website says yes if you wish to experience the mazes on our metro lots you'll have to go through the tunnel once again like toxic tunnel alternate name for twitter hey i got them rack them i i will oh i guess i'll just say it now i got hit with a pipe in the toxic tunnel so this happened on both i didn't get hit with a pipe i actually kind of get hit with a pipe in the toxic tunnel. What the fuck? So this happened on both. I didn't get hit with a pipe.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I actually kind of get hit by a giant foam hand, though, at knots. So we're walking through the tunnel. We're walking through the tunnel. And Luke, he was starting to get scared. Because it is kind of scary in there. The atmosphere is scary. And he kind of tried to like add a performer and then the performer was like irritated by it you could tell i was like don't do that
Starting point is 00:35:50 you're like egging him on now and i swear he like kind of ran at us and i think it got loose and his pipe like flew out of his hand and hit me in the like the calf and i was like that's a real pipe yeah that's not a plastic pipe. And I guess I could have sued. I guess I still can. But I was like, well, that's a little bit of extra horror for me. And this pipe ain't filled with weed. No, it's not a bong.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Oh, my throat hurts again. No, yeah. Stay away. No, I got to stay away. So anyway, so that was a, yeah yeah i got scared when i got hit uh so anyway so we went to ghostbusters and ghostbusters have you watched videos of these i've watched most of the maze walkthroughs have you watched anything no okay i don't know we're scared to do that is that true that's not true i did not after watching like eight of these in a row i was like i don't
Starting point is 00:36:45 feel great like i don't really you were spooked i felt unnerved more than really also because uh i was watching hold on all right let me give them a shout out officially sharp productions has very good walkthroughs of all of this and i think i just felt bad that this uh one woman uh at horror night she had a friend with her but like they let her and her cameraman go through by themselves she got every scare and it's a little uh draining after a while because all these mazes take like five minutes to go through like halfway through i was like i can't i this would be the time to stop but there's still three minutes left in the video. So you've watched a lot of these. I watch a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I'm trying to like maybe next year. So you think maybe you're easing yourself in. Well, because watching the Ghostbusters one, I really was sad I was not there. Because I was like. So I have the Ghostbusters here just so you can have a little frame of Reverend Scott. The Ghostbusters one, I think, easily is like the least scary. They've got a Lewis Tully one running around outside which is really fun. A Janine.
Starting point is 00:37:48 There's a Janine. All the sound cues. They're blasting Ray Parker Jr.'s Ghostbusters outside. It's very fun. The sound cues from the movies were really like oh god I really do like these movies. I know there's a lot of there's a weird fan culture around these movies but I was just like oh the movies
Starting point is 00:38:04 themselves are so Bobby Brown hey Bobby Brown so nice oh from from two no love for yeah
Starting point is 00:38:09 it's only one though maybe next year it will be two that would be fun yeah apparently there's only a firehouse in Hollywood
Starting point is 00:38:17 there is not one in Orlando it's just a different exterior I mean we got all the set houses here we got all the prop houses here we got all the prop
Starting point is 00:38:25 houses makeup the litany of actors in la so we we do have advantages in that sense so maybe they just had a firehouse in la um so this this maze probably i think like this is like a big crowd pleasing maze because you're trying to judge like a maze on its theming and like you know scares but there's not a lot of scares except for like uh the demon which pops out at you and what universal does which is different than i think all the other haunts is they have these sound cues that even though you go like oh i see slimmers about to come out of the darkness you walk in there and then it's just the loudest thing in the world so yeah here you go jan. There's a fun, this guy playing Egon back there. Paul Rusty in Egon. Doing like a very Paul Rust exaggerated,
Starting point is 00:39:07 like flailing with the trap and then going through another door. So we went through this, and this is a very good first one because like, again, like very light on scares, cool effects, you know. Well, and you got no themed Ghostbusters experiences these days without the those the florida show
Starting point is 00:39:25 anymore and yeah so nice to see this all physicalized yes so that that yes it was fun and it kind of makes you wish there was like a full-on ride um and that the scope like the scope is already pretty good for a maze but it's like you know you could imagine what the full like i mean i guess that's a little scary we're looking at a ghost just like flailing his head around a clown ghost a clown ghost uh which you'll see in of course the clown the killer that's a little scary. We're looking at a ghost just flailing his head around. A clown ghost. A clown ghost, which you'll see in, of course, The Killer Clowns a little bit later. Oh, right. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And they have a big stay puff that comes up at the end here. I was trying to fast forward it, but I feel like my computer is being stupid. Oh, yeah. There's a great effect of Slimer getting shot by a proton pack gun. What do you call the gun? Proton pack is what they wear on the back. Oh.'t know it's a good question someone's mad someone's really mad i'm sorry zach rider rolling man in this uh so yeah and there's slimer he's coming down the hall so like you get all your yeah it's very so that one especially i think like would have been worth it to go
Starting point is 00:40:22 um and then if you just go on the ride. So anyway, so we did that. We did. And so at that point, Carly and Todd, they're out. They go, hell yeah. Carly and Todd, my VIPs. You've got to go through the show. You have to. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:38 First off, you're very far. Yes. Like, we've all done, worked or at least done runs on the universal lot it is a huge it is an incorporated city it's yeah oh sizable i walk we walked so much um not as much as uh six flags though oh yeah yeah we talked about that uh so yeah so we so they they actually ended up going to killer clowns right after this and then leaving that would be the one i'm like oh no no thanks like i'm not that scared of clowns but killer clowns no thank you that one though i will say is lit well okay it's still scary but that one's lit well as opposed to a lot of the ones obviously
Starting point is 00:41:16 in the dark you can see everything coming so you can see the creepy clowns coming and it's got a little bit of a you know a sense of humor if i can say uh as i was watching all those sharp production walkthroughs they had some uh of out-of-state haunts and in at the kentucky kingdom park there is a haunt uh maze just called a clown's funeral and i just thought that was really odd i like look i like uh i like that yeah i like i'll be honest with you i like the premise of that yeah uh so yeah then luke so basically luke and i going in and we're both like like we didn't end up doing everything because we kind of dawdled we should have lindsey and i did like everything we did not dawdle uh which so so we went on the uh frankenstein versus wolfman universal one and
Starting point is 00:42:07 that was fun that i thought the theming was real i thought that was really neat yes that one was very neat uh and then and a trick i saw at a lot of the universal houses that end off like a property like with the movie poster at the end and then the guy jumps out of the poster because it's great effects a curtain when we did uh what's it called the blue blade uh delirium yeah is that what it's called uh there was a great effect of coming through a screen yeah that works every time uh so then we did stranger things huge bust boy everyone who i think i talked to said boring and the one in in orlando's better too but like this one just felt very flat there was a few like a big monster on the field but like i don't know and
Starting point is 00:42:52 i'm also i don't watch the show so i i guess i shouldn't comment completely the duffer brothers duffed it how two seasons they did try to do two seasons in one maybe over overreached uh so anyway then we did killer clowns which this is how killer clowns looks it's neon it's lit very well so it's cool and fun and it is still scary like luke and i both acknowledge there you go yeah i'd be scared of that it's not yeah it's not without its scares jason did you watch this it's just a surprise clown you didn't know yeah but it's like doing okay okay yeah i couldn't tell if that was a uh yeah i actually were these are these big boobs what do we got here there's like there's like i think they're eggs with uh the clowns
Starting point is 00:43:36 inside of them which is like all you know they're gonna hatch clowns i actually never seen this movie i feel like maybe i need to see it now i don't really need to see it but i'll i'm trying to branch out too i watched hellraiser a month ago because i never watched these uh yeah these movies as a kid because i was too scared yeah so now i'm you know finally getting brave in my mid-30s um so we did this i did not get hit by a pipe thank goodness uh and this one i would say is one of more one of my favorites um and then we went we did the mummy which is the same old mummy uh and then we ran into we were just saying justin michael and and he was there and we finally ran into him and betsy sedaro who will be a future guest on the on the show and we were out braved like by so much they were like
Starting point is 00:44:29 pros of this so luke and i after feeling like we were like kind of brave we were we started going in with betsy and justin and they as you were saying with these people that went in alone they wanted all the scares my tactic is follow behind another group. They get the scares and I get to see what's coming. And you love haunts, you're saying? That's you loving haunts? I do love haunts, but that's part of it. Part of it is the fear, you know, because you're trying to be scared.
Starting point is 00:44:57 But that's my way. Everyone does their haunts differently, you know? Sure, yeah. So, but they, Betsy did this thing, which which is she would when we were about to go in she held she put her arms out to hold us so the group in front would just like have a nice 30 second buffer geez caught onto your scheme yeah i mean let's get those scares i don't think she caught into my scheme i think that's just what they were doing all night so there would and they would also like if they missed a scare they would still like we would run into people a little bit if they
Starting point is 00:45:28 missed the scare they would just sit in front of it and wait yeah they come out every like these are scare pros so these are obviously they've been doing this for years they're like way into it uh and then we went to pandora's box and that was cool and i'm just trying to breeze through some of this so there's so much i was interested pandora's box and holidays and hell two original mazes i feel like yes hollywood horror nights usually got the reputation of like all licensed all licensed ones which they do a very good job at oh yeah it's crazy that for like two months of the year there's like eight brand new attractions sets actors yes it's crazy that they wild put these things up it's are really wild too i wish more attractions
Starting point is 00:46:14 that puppets well i guess then you need a puppeteer yeah i mean like especially at knots they have the those and you saw them when we went on that tour last year they have these giant puppets like aliens and sharks. Yeah. And like they're huge and terrifying. And like there's a demon. It's cool to see. It makes me think it's cool that you can go see these like big puppets in person because like movies don't do these.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Yes. Don't deploy puppets as much. So like and with seeing a practical Slim is even just in that video was exciting uh you know because i don't need to complain about digital effects plenty of podcasts have done that but still just like it's cool to know this is a place you can go when somebody's operating a big puppet you can see puppets and you can see puppets doing improv too not scary saying naughty words how many of the puppets a puppet up say weed every night i've bet half if a puppet opened their mouth and then a puff of smoke came out i go am i in hell how
Starting point is 00:47:16 messed up can you be that would be totally twisted if a puppet smoked weed uh so we did yeah so we did holidays from hell too which is very i will say that's a fun concept of every you go through every holiday and it is twisted in there there's like a person stuffed on the thanksgiving table that's very gross santa claus is like some pervert guy he's wandering around oh um big boner i don't think he had a boner i think the universal would not that would only be like a bill and ted maybe a bill and ted show they would have a boner i saw on the save bill and ted facebook group which i am a part of because i join all these things right before we do an episode uh somebody was like i heard from a cat or whatever they call a cast member that bill and
Starting point is 00:48:05 ted's coming back the film is coming back the film is coming back so bill and ted might not be gone forever we'll see geez that's a t if bill and ted comes back you have to go to horror nights so the big this this is the bet we can make is in 2020 or or I guess, no, in 2021, will you be able to see Bill and Ted say, President Elizabeth Warren. Yes. President Seth Bullock. That's a guy. I just learned about that guy today.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Seth Bullock? I don't know. I just know the name. I don't know what his deal is. Of course, the answer is President Donald Trump. That's of course what. Convicted felon Donald Trump rotting in prison. Donald, due to Ukraine, which unfolded very felon since 2019.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Donald Trump. I'll take the bet now. Yeah, that's going to happen. Yeah. See you in jail, sucker. So we got to Us. Now I saw Us. I liked Us, the movie.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I enjoyed it. I haven't seen it, but the trailer scared me. Some people didn't like it as much as Get Out, but I liked it. I read about what it's about, and I think I want to try the movie. But the trailer, I mean, the walkthrough on this is terrible. Tim Heidecker, fantastic role in it. And there's a Heidecker lookalike in the maze here. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:49:37 And it's fantastic. That's neat. And they have the music playing outside. I will say this is my favorite of all the Horror Nights mazes. Santa Cruz Boardwalk Knot. Santa Cruz Boardwalk Knot. Santa Cruz Boardwalk Knot. You're going through the trees here. There are mirrors, like funhouse mirrors,
Starting point is 00:49:52 that literally every time I saw myself, I thought it was a stranger. I thought it was a scare actor. They fooled me almost every time. I go, ah! Oh, it's me. They just set them up where you turn and there's a reflection and you don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Wow. Yes. And it's just, yeah that's in the in the movie uh so they go through like all the things all the pieces of the movie i don't want to spoil the movie but uh there's yeah the santa cruz boardwalk where you see your doppelganger uh and then they go through the different the vacation house that the main family has, and then the bougie house that Tim Heidecker and his family have. And like the perfect combination of like, I recognize this very well themed and scaring the shit out of me.
Starting point is 00:50:38 That was the first thing when I asked you how it was. Hopefully they have the same guy because it might be a different person. Or no, no, that's the original family. The family sorry from the film that's the family from the film okay uh and there's one and i will say i think i've said this before my my maybe most scared is when they have like a dummy setup and you know one is a human but you don't know what you know the setup so i walk into the room and i'm like one of these is a human but i don't know which you're not scared of the surprise you're scared of like oh god it's coming it'm like, one of these is a human, but I don't know which. You're not scared of the surprise. You're scared of like, oh God, it's coming.
Starting point is 00:51:07 It's like guessing which one it is. So like for whatever reason, that gets me every time. So yeah, so you go into their house here. And as soon as all four of us were alone, stepped into this living room, which is perfectly recreated and like looks just like a living room. It's the same size as a living room we all four went like we all four made that noise because it's just a
Starting point is 00:51:32 living room yeah and there's something so unnerving about recreating like just normal life that like for whatever reason of all of the things at horror nights just recreating a living room freaked us out. When I asked you how it was, this was the first thing you told me about is like we got freaked out by the living room.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah. I don't know. I think that's, I'm trying to psychologically, I'm analyzing it, but we got freaked out by the living room. And then, yeah, this is also something where like there's so many different sets. I was pretty impressed. So, I'm hoping we get to the Heidecker look-alike in one second here also all these we'll post like links to all of these walkthroughs i did not take these walkthroughs because i was
Starting point is 00:52:13 too scared although i do have a walkthrough of killer clowns that luke took of me now that i think about it oh boy yes uh which is just i mean that's a full-sized fake car like that is geez yeah the scope of this the scope of this is so yeah and impressive um yes find all the space it's all like so it's all taking over two areas and yeah it's like how so this is the heidecker house oh yeah and uh there he is oh my god like pretty close wow and elizabeth moss fake elizabeth moss yeah uh so we go in there and then the whole thing ends like sort of in this creepy i don't want to spoil the movie but this creepy underground thing and another thing where you're like all of a sudden you're in the middle of this
Starting point is 00:52:53 movie and you're like oh we made another noise we're like uh uh and just really great um well so this bloom uh connection is pretty huge i mean it seems like this is very successful that it's getting very recent well like fan beloved properties into the park right away two twin little girls just popped out of doors uh yeah and then you go back to the the boardwalk and you go underground uh yes the bloom connection is strong with the movies It feels like he's Don't we read he's getting involved in the Universal Monsters now Yeah I think he's into this I think he was psyched to get involved Jordan Peele was also on the red carpet
Starting point is 00:53:34 And I'm sure he's into this I'm sure he had a lot to do with this Two halves of the best comedy duos Key and Peele and the Blues Brothers That's a good point One and two I would be very interested in this maybe we should think about this for next
Starting point is 00:53:49 Halloween is like the tricks like the stagecraft and stuff because what I noticed a lot in watching these walkthroughs is a thing that is unnerving but it's so simple it's just people banging on the walls like they just pick up when they jump out at you
Starting point is 00:54:05 or if it seems like they're just gonna walk by you then they smack the wall and it makes a horrifying noise and it works every time yeah it's very scary uh and yeah so this was we actually did the holidays one last but this was second to last and this was uh my favorite did you do house of a thousand corpses we did not make it to creep show or house of a thousand corpses it was our we were you know it was the first haunt of the season i wasn't we were a little scared still and also uh i woke up with a night terror this night after doing this jesus well i didn't remember it though lindsey was like you remember you just woke up in the middle of the night you didn't know where you were but you do that a lot is what you've said i do it depends if the room is very dark i tend to do it um but for whatever reason i think i was just like tense oh yeah here you go there's
Starting point is 00:54:52 a bunch of dummies and uh yeah uh very scary yeah uh so yeah we we did horror nights uh very fun how was the weights you were at a preview night kind of thing yeah well yeah we had uh i look i don't want to brag we had uh the front of the front line okay although betsy and justin had those as well so you can you know buy them that is a tip if you're going to or not to any of these haunts they say if you really want to do the whole thing splurge for the front of the line pass yes i would say fast lane they called it knots yeah because for for knots it's like maybe actually both especially but like knots it's like it's 45 minutes in line and we got to knots a little after it started yeah and we still barely did
Starting point is 00:55:38 everything nine houses there nine mazes yes and if there's two shows there's like oh there are actually three shows they burn a witch Apparently somewhere At the hanging Yeah the hanging And we were talking To a performer there And we'll talk about that In a second
Starting point is 00:55:49 Sure And there's puppets Cursing and smoking weed And like you know There's so much stuff So yeah And a conjurer Yes
Starting point is 00:55:58 There's a conjurer show There's a lot of stuff Going on at Knott's I guess we will Let's transition to Knott's Yeah Scary farm We'll take a We'll take a brief quick break and we'll be right back a spooky break nuts all right we are back on podcast the ride no
Starting point is 00:56:19 man i did this you're gonna hear me do this a couple times this month It's hard to adjust It's like switching time zones It's crazy I'm so sorry What was my name again? You're Mike Coffinson Okay
Starting point is 00:56:34 And that's Jason Skeleton Rod Skardner And uh oh We're joined by Do you have a name? No I don't I just realized we probably should have done it Feel free to invent your own.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Jason's got one. Introduce her. It's returning guest, Laceration Killtie. Pretty good, right? What is the tie? Laceration. What is the tie?
Starting point is 00:57:01 It's the end of her regular name. I was going to say Lindsay Killtie. It's just jammed like any of these. It's just jammed in there. The only thing that works is Skirtner. Of the three you just said, Skirtner is the only one that makes any sense. My name.
Starting point is 00:57:18 How about like Goujai? Like you're gouging out an I. That's pretty good. Well, but it's silent. It's like at least that's a thing Black cat tie I don't think it has to Actually be a full word It just has to kind of sound
Starting point is 00:57:36 I like the cleanliness of it though If you had actually done the creep show Mace You could have gotten tips from the creep An original character not at all Like the creep keeper word of warning you're probably gonna lose me for the next half hour while i try to crack this oh sorry wait never mind you got it lindsey cat's eye oh yeah that's good that's real thanks guys i just needed a minute yeah yeah all right well welcome lindsey cat's eye thank you for having me whatever your names were.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah, it's hard to remember. The only nickname I've ever had for Jason, I mean, there's nicknames, but like the only one that's a play on your last name is Jason Shareable. Why is that? Like sharing apps, shareable apps, like that's a word they use on a menu. And also, you know, it's funny because you know I don't want to share. I was going to say, Jason's not sharing apps. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Also, somebody who doesn't like to share as far as food is concerned either. The lady Jason Sheridan. Yeah, everyone gets their own, right? Then everyone's happy. Yeah. I don't I don't want to share maybe a taste that's mine so you know for next
Starting point is 00:58:49 time but fair enough but do you want to share a couple fries sure sure yes but let's not go there you're not getting half of the thing would you like to share your thoughts about not scary phone which you were made to visit
Starting point is 00:59:05 By your boyfriend So yes I asked some other people First because you initially turned it down You turned down Horror Nights You don't love the scary stuff Yet So then I said I'm getting there
Starting point is 00:59:22 So then I said after a couple rounds of people saying they couldn't make this night, I threw it back to you and you reluctantly said you wanted to go. And what was my main motivating factor in that? That you, I think this is what you're going to
Starting point is 00:59:40 say, you wanted to be braver than Jason and Scott. Correct. That's fine. I went through the maze of scoring. I'm cooler than Scott and Jason. I'm cooler than Scott and Jason. She was in the middle of screaming, screaming her head off in terror and clutching into my back with her fingers. She kept being like, I'm cooler than Jason and Scott.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Cooler than Jason and Scott. Impossible. I wasn't screaming my head off in the the mazes themselves i just love it when someone thinks about me i felt like an insane person when that scare actor jumped at me you know the reason i think i there's such an intensity about it is because of you were literally clutching me definitely clutching in a way that was really uh alarming me and that thought maybe i had made a big mistake taking you It was just the first one
Starting point is 01:00:26 No no of course but I'm just saying like I thought oh you know You're gonna yell a little bit and then you'll get used to it But you were like the first maze Was so intense I was worried I was a bit worried You thought I was gonna be a night ruiner Well not the night ruiner I just didn't like I was like uh oh I'm traumatizing
Starting point is 01:00:43 Like legit traumatizing you. You said it was like with Luke, you could just sort of laugh and be like, ha ha ha, Luke is scared. But you didn't want to do that to me. Yes, that is a good point. I felt a different feeling. I guess it's love. Love, Michael. I guess it's caring.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I mean, Luke, I've been friends with since third grade and I'll say love. I probably would look, but it's caring. I mean, Luke, I've been friends with since third grade. And I'll say love. I probably would look. But it's love. I'll say it's a different type of love. Love, Michael. I mean, last year when we walked through the scare zones at Knott's, I definitely did some light clutching.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Oh, yeah. No, you did a full on arm clutch. Yeah, I did a full on. You remember that. We're going to a cotillion. You held on to that one. No, I think you say it on the last episode I think you brought it up Just when the scare actor comes at us
Starting point is 01:01:33 In the calico town Jason turns and just Clutches at my arm Because it's so dark and it's so foggy The wandering scare actors Were the scariest part for me Yeah so they're right. So we get there. We got there a little bit after it opens at like seven o'clock. And the scare actors are right up on you.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Because last time when we did it, we went in like we were, you know, in a room, back room for six hours. And then we went in the side. But we went in the official entrance and they don't give you any breathing room for it. There is no like you're put you're trying To get your stuff back in your bag from the Bag check and they are right there Ready to fuck with you Oh man did you try to delay
Starting point is 01:02:13 I didn't know they existed I didn't know they existed I didn't warn you about it I didn't know there were just free floating Scare actors I thought it was just In the damn mazes. That is what makes me not want to be there. There were so many of them.
Starting point is 01:02:28 You don't get a break every fucking second. There were so many of them. You're just lucky there's nobody in the bathrooms. You get breaks. But then suddenly you'll be like, oh, we need to get to this spot. And there will be 20 of them just wandering around. It was so intense. We had pockets where there were very few people around. And there was that one where it was so intense we had pockets where there were very few people
Starting point is 01:02:45 around and there was that one where it was like intense fog and you truly didn't know where they were lurking and my my being afraid apart from that first scare actor who who yelled and then Like screamed In his face His or her face Mostly my fear was Manifesting as extreme Defensiveness and a challenging Nature to the scare actors You did the same thing that I talked about this I got hit with a pipe because Luke tried to Challenge a scare actor
Starting point is 01:03:19 At horror nights and you were doing The same thing which is like you were trying To kind of get ahead of it and like almost like uh like tough guy i was trying to project like a safety yes sphere like an invisible safety sphere around myself so i just like kept my eye on the scare actors like i know where you are i know where you are so don't come at me but that just made them want to come like they started following me a couple of them because i had made such intense eye contact and it was one of those sliders the sliders were the worst ones with the sparkly knee pads they love it i was freaking out at the possibility that they would catch me off guard but catch you on fire it's gonna be a spark it's scary yes i hate all of this uh there were so many of them
Starting point is 01:04:08 i figured out my i think i'm sure i talked about this last year but i was uh surprised to find this comeback when we did i just i figured out my move how i deal with these people uh uh is is that i and i didn't even know this wasn't even plan, but it's what came out of me is me just going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I didn't even, it's like, I don't even know what's coming out of me, but it came back when we just went and did this thing that we haven't talked about that I think we had a pretty good time at,
Starting point is 01:04:39 this sandbox VR. We got to try a new VR experience. And this was a surprisingly scary thing where there were big bug creatures in your face. And I, once again, and this very pathetic video of us all in a green screen environment and me going up to nothing and going,
Starting point is 01:04:53 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We got hit with giant bugs, like eight foot tall bugs were attacking us. And the haptic feedback on the vests was very aggressive. I kind of liked it. You liked the haptic feedback? I liked the haptic feedback on the vests was very aggressive i kind of liked it you like the haptic feedback because like i i think what for me that like i love haunted houses when it's just robots when it's just animatronics when it's just hinges you know when it's just that um i love it but when it's even as a kid like i went through one or two with like actors and i did not like it at all like the human actor element although last year that
Starting point is 01:05:36 was kind of de-escalated by um we after recording both saw uh scare actors using the same restroom as we had been and then also saw them eating lunch so we kind of got a little de-escalation going in of like they were just people like us yeah they were waving they were saying hi you guys you got through the turnstiles you just got sliders right at you huh and truly i didn't know that they that that was a role that got played. Yeah, we had we were trying to take a photo of us. And I feel like we didn't have enough time because we were like, oh, there's one coming around the bend here. Yeah, any second now. And then you went to the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:06:16 And they're right outside the bathrooms. We both went to the bathroom. And then I came out right as one chased like seven 13 year old girls up into the bathroom area. And they obviously had a they had a they couldn't go past into the bathroom. The scare actors are not allowed to scare you in the bathroom. That would be unacceptable. People would be like peeing everywhere. It was a thing I already knew.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I knew that they can't touch you. I knew that. But you did, you reminded me like they can't touch you. I knew that. But you did. You reminded me like they can't touch you. And then I was walking. I was so I was saying one or one of two things out loud. I'm cooler than Scott and Jason. Yes. I'll give you that.
Starting point is 01:06:55 That's fine. They can't touch me. They can't touch me. Those were her mantras all night. They can't touch me. And I, yes, she, yes, you were like quietly muttering it during the mazes. Let me test your bravery, though. Do you know about the Skyliner accident in Disney World?
Starting point is 01:07:09 I did not know. What's your level of willingness to go on the Skyliner knowing the new gondolas at Disney World, knowing that there was an accident on it? Okay, what happened? A minor crunching situation. With other. One, the gondolas did not correctly catch the the cable it was still on the track in the station so then it caused a backup to crunch these were unoccupied and but it stopped the whole system
Starting point is 01:07:33 for about two to three hours so people just dangling in gondolas and when i was in the the restroom when i was in cleaning my bathroom upstairs just now i did hear you say that you would still go on it yeah and you would welcome the accident you would welcome the sweet embrace of death is what i think you said i'd make lemonade out of lemons and make content out of the axe i'd make heaven lemonade out of death lemon he just wants to be stranded in the air for six to eight hours that's all he wants bring a lemon and make lemonade out of the emergency bag water. That is true.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Well, if I bring Country Time powder. Which you, by the way, bring it everywhere anyway. Well, sure. Emergency bag. Jason Country Time shareables. That is what will kill me, is getting apps as my meal and too much sugar jason it with lemonade that's your name during like the boysenberry festival coverage i guess or i guess or there has to be some sort of a lemonade festival the scares from that come
Starting point is 01:08:35 jason out of boysenberry yeah jason country time um barradin wow that's good and that's also your little rhymeable name thank you Barry Tales character too the
Starting point is 01:08:49 Knott's old Knott's dark ride so you're upset before even going in a thing so yeah you are
Starting point is 01:08:54 yeah immediately accosted by uh the scare actors and then I
Starting point is 01:09:00 I really was for a bit oh don't pet him while he's under the oh no speaking of freaks a surprise, don't pet him while he's under the blanket. Oh, no. Speaking of freaks. A surprise Edwin from under a blanket.
Starting point is 01:09:09 He's become a little bit crankier when it comes to being touched while he's under a blanket or something. Like he won't let me pet him when he's in his little deep dish cuddler at night now. He only lets me touch him in the cuddler for whatever reason. It's special. Talk him back in. T and L again. Yeah. Rah, rah, rah.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Sorry. Sorry about that scare actor coming up from the blank. Oh, my God. That scare dog. The true scare actor. I would never forgive you if you, like, hit a scare actor in the apartment. You should never go on Ellen, then. Because she always has, like, a guy jump out of a box.
Starting point is 01:09:44 That's true. And then scare you. She's in the in the box too with a fucking war criminal. She loves being in boxes with devious figures. It takes all kinds and that's why I am friends with Satan. We go to these soccer games together.
Starting point is 01:10:03 It's fun. Subtle differences in political beliefs So bathrooms Where did you guys go from there? So bathrooms Where did you go from there? We did hit up the bathrooms first And then we
Starting point is 01:10:19 Took a photo in front of the Scary farm sign Yeah so at this point we walk over so we when we toured last year we toured the depths and we toured dark entities so we went over to that zone because there's four mazes that way which is by ghost rider um oh we hadn't eaten so we got disgustingly large pieces of pizza which i had like just didn't have the stomach for because i'd been sick all that week because of that oat milk oh right yes hey yeah spoiler oat milk talk coming next month yeah that's all we'll say stay tuned so i and we were like i was like wanting to
Starting point is 01:11:03 hide out from the slider For a while Yes because we were right like the pizza area was right in slider country Yeah I was real scared Like there was a guy sliding up and down Outside of this little window where you'd buy this pizza This cafeteria pizza I was like they can't scare you while you're eating right Well they
Starting point is 01:11:18 I don't think they can They can If you're holding a drink they wouldn't know that and so i was not about to be walking around with a drink yes we we drank our boysenberry beers on a crate and we waited to enter the scare zone before or we had to wait excuse me to finish our drink before entering the scare zone uh and then i ate most of your pizza And mine Very fast Sweet night for Mike I was getting scared on an empty stomach and two beers
Starting point is 01:11:50 Yeah that pizza became a shareable It did A non-shareable A rare share Forced share So then at that point I go alright are we ready Are we ready to do this And the first maze we went is Paranormal Inc., which is...
Starting point is 01:12:06 It was maybe the worst one because the thing I'm afraid of most is ghosts and the supernatural. I know this about you, but you reiterated to me afterward that a big part of being scared is because it involved ghosts. And you're not scared of aliens. You're not scared of sea monsters. You're scared of ghosts because they're real. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:28 So I just started reading The Haunting of Hill House. Have you read that? Yeah, it's one of my favorite books. Okay. She just ate at an unpleasant diner. So that was scary to me because she got rude service. She got rude service? You mean the cup of stars scene?
Starting point is 01:12:44 Huh? No, that was fun. That was delightful. No, she goes to a, in the town. There's like a weird, creepy diner. Oh, yeah. And everybody's like, stay away from my house. That was what I, right before I came here, I got to that.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I was like, well, when I get back home to pick this book back up, she will be at the house. Oh, no. That's fierce. That book is fantastic. I created an LLCc like for in like independent congratulations payment oh thank you so much uh i shouldn't have opened it now i have to pay taxes on it that was very stupid but um i named it cup of stars because that's charming yeah that's a very charming moment because i figure it's it like me. It's like sweet, but creepy.
Starting point is 01:13:30 That is how I described you to my parents when we started dating. She's sweet, but she's creepy. But the opening of that book when they talk about the house is not sane. The fear comes from absolute sanity. The inability to dream i was like reality reality yes yeah um he's he was so unnerving to me uh and as you're saying that about the paranormal ink like ghosts and stuff yeah the best thing about that book is that the book makes you feel like you're the one being haunted oh it's completely disorienting. I love it. It's so good. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:14:05 And she's not even at the house yet. It's very freaky. Yeah, which is, yeah, haunted. There's a Grant Morrison haunted comic, which is cool, too. And you feel like you're being haunted by a ghost while you're reading it. Anyway, so Paranormal Inc. is the start. And basically, if you don't know what this is, it's like a fake reality ghost hunting show. And all of a sudden, like dummy pulls a lever and releases
Starting point is 01:14:25 this scary ghost who tells everyone i would like to talk to greg about why he pulled that lever they really don't make it clear greg he doesn't he's like fuck this and then he flips a switch for no reason i was like you've been watching that house this ghost forms above you which is very uh cool and scary and she says we're all going to die And then I told you this was happening A woman flies out You showed this to me a year ago
Starting point is 01:14:51 And I still forgot So long story short We did this twice And what was very funny about this Is that you kept asking if things were different Because I didn't realize That your eyes were literally closed the whole time you were doing this at your first maze oh i didn't realize until
Starting point is 01:15:10 we went back through that's what's even crazier to me like i was unconsciously closing my eyes right but you had like had a memory of all of it but it was inaccurate yes yeah so the whole thing is like you're going through like this like fucked up old house and then you end up in hell. And then at the end, you end up in a hospital, which is this one. Yeah. Which is the one I was raving about last year. And yet the effect.
Starting point is 01:15:36 So I'm trying. I was trying to point out the effect to you. And you just kind of were like yelling and were irritated, I feel like. And I thought you saw it and you were just unimpressed. That was my feeling when the first time we went through it no i was yelling because a demon was there but i didn't know where the demon came from because apparently i was looking down so intensely all of a sudden you show up in here and there's a woman who's a nurse and you're just creepy i like white contacts and this is the effect there's a giant demon puppet you can't see it and
Starting point is 01:16:06 all of a sudden like it'll short out and then you can see it just eating something scrim situation which is very cool it was really cool and i did not see it the first time you did not see the first time and and to your credit you said oh yeah and then there it is again yeah like t-rex and it's huge and it is huge this puppet this demon puppet and to your credit after we had done a couple mazes you said i want to do paranormal ink again wow i didn't see it because i didn't see it and i wanted to experience it what was that hospital different i thought i thought the first time that the lights were not turned on like that, I was convinced that it was not bright like that.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Yeah. And it turned out that I didn't even realize how little I was looking at my surroundings. And yes, as I said before, you were just like digging your fingers into my sides, like, and just in a way where I was like, truly, I was like concerned. I was worried. I was not concerned i was worried i was not enjoying myself at all sweet no it was just the first one though it was just the first one i'm just saying that's where my mind was like oh but that is the difference where it's like oh you love and care about your friend who you've known a long time but when you're in a relationship there's a
Starting point is 01:17:20 protective feeling that you don't have with other friends yes i'm trying to think if i was going through the maze with luke and he was digging his fingers into my back you'd probably just be annoyed i'd probably be like get the hell off me get the fuck over it luke look i was your best man at your wedding but this isn't come on i draw a line at me rib digging no rib ow my ribs ow my ribs my ribs comedy theater uh so yeah so then we did uh we did those dark entities which is the alien when we walked through last year uh very similar uh we did uh the depths which is the sea monster with that shark remember that shark yeah we were doing these tours of these mazes and i could not wait to not go on them. For real. I sure didn't. What did you think?
Starting point is 01:18:09 I thought it was cool. I really only liked the water effect. Okay. I don't remember. You were still adjusting. I feel like these first four was. That whole little area i think i it wasn't until wax works probably where i was like okay i think i can get into this a little yes so we did yeah
Starting point is 01:18:33 we did that and there's that effect i'm sure i said it last year but there's the effect where it's just a bunch of fog and then lasers to make it look like it's maybe water yeah and that's when like the sea creatures hands are like fins are popping up, which is very cool. But yeah. And then Dark Entities, which has a couple robots. Remember we saw those robots and those are fun. Not worth it.
Starting point is 01:18:55 I don't remember Dark Entities very well. The robot was performing surgery and was doing a bad job. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. surgery and was doing a bad job signing people in. What's interesting to me is that a lot of these houses are like some it's a recognizable place where something goes wrong so the animatronics can be really simple and purposely
Starting point is 01:19:15 malfunctioning purposely kind of like shitty or hitting stuff like Dark Ride. That makes sense. The walkthrough of Dark Ride was another one where I was like I kind of wish I saw this. Like in this, this woman went through dark ride. There's like a,
Starting point is 01:19:30 it's a fake dark ride. So there's a track on the ground, right? Like you follow a track. Yes. It's like a broken down haunted ride. A carnival ride. That was the concept of that?
Starting point is 01:19:40 Yeah. Yeah. I think that one's okay. That was lost on me. I was not impressed. And I am more afraid of clowns than anything else i'm afraid of we we there was a a listener who tweeted at me i think they were working dark right but we they were on their break when we did it sadly yeah um was a very funny
Starting point is 01:19:57 moment i saw in the video this where there was a large man in a top hat who like follows the person going through it and then tells her to push a button and a button makes a siren goes off and then a man pops out and starts yelling at her that she pushed the button and i think that's such a funny guy like that's such a funny moment that's the most interactive thing i've heard of i was not that impressed by dark ride yeah that was not one of my favorites she was cool well no this isn't dark ride this is waxworks oh yeah waxworks is very cool the premise of wax so waxworks is mysterious strange noises have begun to uh emanate from the eerie abandoned wax museum the once prominent plastic surgeon dr augustus scratch original knots has been seen tinkering at night and is
Starting point is 01:20:41 now ready to show off his beautifully a terrifying lifelike masterpieces of hot molten wax and bloody flesh. So basically, he is just experimenting on humans with wax. To make them wax. So look, she's got a wax face. That's a creepy Marilyn kind of freak. I saw the trailer on the Knott's website and it was terrifying. It's a woman's face trapped In wax and this is I love this This is like scary
Starting point is 01:21:08 Founding fathers yes great melting Founding fathers they melted Ben Franklin's Face on some guy and they dressed him up because that Was a scene in this wax museum at one point Which cool like This yeah so this one this one is the first one You were like I think you maybe had all your Bearings and were like impressed
Starting point is 01:21:24 By appreciating the and there's just this corpse you have to push your way there's a corpse hanging yeah just push the body to the side when you walk by it uh which is of course uh terrifying and like there's a lot of good like there's i will say a very tasteful use of water in this a couple times when they simulate the boiling wax oh yeah and when like which they dump wax out of like these big i don't know what you call them cauldrons or something i also liked this one more because instead of just wearing a monster mask which looks like the fakest thing possible yeah in the wax works it's like humans have been experienced in it. So everybody wearing a creepy doll mask or a melty mask really fit the story very well.
Starting point is 01:22:10 And they looked like the true horror of the story. So, yeah. As opposed to like, oh, it's supposed to be a wolfman. But you're like, it's just a wolfman rubber mask. Yeah. Yeah. This one seems like, oh, see how the what the horror that these people may have actually gone through uh to make them uh crazy like all disfigured and crazy uh
Starting point is 01:22:30 yeah so basically long story short this was the first time when you had like maybe a bit of enjoyment uh and then at the end which we don't have to watch all this but at the end as you're leaving they're dripping water on you in this like very narrow hallway and yeah it uh it smells weird and you feel like it's wax so you know you're gonna get the wax face as well that's what's gonna happen i like the stuff where it's like there was something earlier that was clearly under a sheet and you think it's gonna move but it's a trick nothing happens and it's to draw your attention to and really something's coming at you from the other direction there's this giant like cronenberg puppet yes like
Starting point is 01:23:12 body horror thing which is very impressive and they have so many yeah puppets there's so many great puppets at knots uh hopefully uh six flags doesn't buy knots which is a rumor we haven't talked about no uh they turned down the bid oh they did cedar fair turned down the bid they said four billion it was uh too cheap so six for sale four billion they offered to buy all four billion fair which is interesting because uh that's the water uh the wax effects which do drip and like get close to your legs uh which are very cool um Six Flags and Knots are, like, they are,
Starting point is 01:23:47 Six Flags has, like, over twice as many parks as Knots, but in terms of valuations, Six Flags is worth a little more, but it's not worth a lot more. Yeah. So Cedar Fair, like, probably the right move.
Starting point is 01:23:59 And we'll discuss some reasons in the Patreon, during the Fright Fest episode, Patreon.com. Which we just agreed during the break Yes It has not come out yet It's coming out
Starting point is 01:24:12 We determined the timeline that you're on, listener But please do subscribe Patreon.com slash podcast But for now What else is nuts? So yeah, so we did Waxworks Then we I think had another boysenberry beer Oh I wanted to say that
Starting point is 01:24:28 Something funny you did A couple of times definitely in the Alien one Is when we Come across somebody who'd been infected You just you went I'm so sorry there's nothing we can Do for you
Starting point is 01:24:44 And the guy went I feel like I He went, I'm so sorry. There's nothing we can do for you. And the guy went, I feel like I get less nervous if I say stuff. Yeah. So definitely breaks the tension. I think I did that in the zombie. It's another. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:01 If there's a one where it's like zombies or aliens where it's like these people are infected. I guess I should have done in waxworks. I'm just like apologizing. So sorry. i can't help you were like me once yeah like oh there but for the grace of god yeah bye so we we got we collect you were very i feel like we were like we chilled out we had the boysenberry beer and you were like i can I can do this. I feel like you said, I can do this. From then on, I went through the mazes stiff as a board with my hands at my sides. Just ready. As opposed to arms closed.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Fine. As opposed to gripping Mike or even holding his shirt. I was just like. Yes. Yes. You were very brave. Were you sore the next day going to sleep that night was a little difficult because i still felt on guard your norfolk still still up
Starting point is 01:25:55 right yeah yeah so if like a book had fallen in the bedroom yeah and what i kept saying is it's like it doesn't matter that you know why you're getting scared your body doesn't know why you're getting scared your body just thinks there's a threat and there's been a threat for four hours straight yes that's true i think one of the things that might what the fuck i i want to keep reading about like the science behind all this because I think that can help me demystify it a little. Like your brain science? Like why we react to like this startling version and this startling thing. And I know people have talked about before like fear and laughter are two like just reactions you have.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Involuntary. They're involuntary. So, yeah. Well, the best research you can do is by seeing Joker in theaters now. Fear and laughter clashing. They made a Joker movie, and there's no Batman. There's no Batman to save us. It's pretty bald.
Starting point is 01:27:02 It's pretty experimental, but the public went for it. And it goes to show experimental films can work these days. Sure. It's a big risk, the studio took. They took a big risk, these artists. A big risk. And they fought the woke culture and they won. We're talking about the clown prince of crime.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Like this guy thinks crime is funny? I don't know. There's some psychological scary farm idea yeah it sounds like he would be like dr augustus scratch yeah you know as twisted as his brain where's his origin story we're putting dr augustus scratch in mean streets um todd phillips presents oh also I figured out one of these parks could make the bathroom scary if they theme it to Chuck Berry's old restaurant.
Starting point is 01:27:52 What's that sound? What's that recording sound? Because he hid cameras in a restaurant and somehow avoided jail time. In the bathroom. Yeah, in the bathroom. Man, was I confused just then. I was like like i'm sure it'll be clear that was one of my classic reaches there's some weird job very footage out there
Starting point is 01:28:10 just google it we won't talk about it for sure um so let's talk about what's that manufactured scary things i don't know no no that's what you mean it's a different thing and i don't even want to say it's just such a later later i'll say it later it's disturbing uh anyway so then we did the two things that you guys did last year which of course are always delightful the uh timber mountain log rides oh you thought you were gonna say a maze oh no no no this is a legitimate the dark the dark okay no. The mine cart and the Timber Mountain log ride. Halloween Hootenanny. Which is the Halloween Hootenanny.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Oh, yeah. With the band. And the bear that says trick or treat. Yeah. Which is. Wonderful. Really, I wish we had more time to do it again because it's so fun. It goes so fast.
Starting point is 01:29:01 It goes too fast. It's just rocketing through there. And there's an original song. That's what Splash Mountain does better. Yeah. You get to have a slow. And it's just rocketing through there and there's an original mountain does better yeah well you get to have a slow and it's very long yeah uh there's an original song in there yeah and i can't find a version of it but it's just to this ride and it's about like a halloween hootenanny and that's who the and the band i wrote the name of the band down uh they are where is it? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Michael... Well, formerly, Billy Hill and the Hillbillies at Disneyland. Well, no, no. The band on the ride. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:29:33 The fake band. I'm talking about the band with the, like, Swamp Monster. Oh, I... Sorry, I meant the people who recorded the song. Oh, oh. The people who perform at Knott's
Starting point is 01:29:41 now that used to perform at Disneyland. Got it, yes. I'm just talking about the name of the... Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Yes. It is the Calico Coffin Creepers.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Delightful. And it's like there's an alien, there's a swamp monster- Love it. And they're playing a band. I just, that is the one part- The alien's involvement is the funniest part to me. Yeah, yeah. Because yes-
Starting point is 01:30:02 It's the grab bag. An alien has crash landed in the timber mount log ride and he's joined up in a band because it happens to be halloween because it's halloween and he's just a gray it's just a gray he's not really adored or anything no he's not like a monster and it is so fun that's the one scene i wish was slower when the bear goes to retreat and then you go around the queen you see the band i wish we could stop there for like a minute um but that was great the lighting around there is really great um and anyway that's yeah you got to do that uh any thoughts on those two the minor right depressing so disturbing without being in the halloween theme they're sad. They're just creepy and sad.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Like, ah. This is our lives. Yeah, they've all gone mad from being in this mine. And is that an intended story? Because it certainly felt like they had designed it that way. They were disturbing miners. If Walter Knott probably was like like these men got what they deserve they work for a big corporation get yourself out of the working class yeah i want to be out of it
Starting point is 01:31:14 bootstraps pull yourself up by them uh yeah it's a good question i assume that i assume part of it is like it was tough work but also another part of it was like uh rubber-faced robot creeps just like that's just there's they're only gonna look they're gonna look like that unfortunately and that especially they've renovated them but like the year they were built it just felt purposeful that's when we do the episode maybe we'll look into that that is a good point because it does it's like it's like the further so like disneyland has big thunder mountain and it's like yeehaw you're a miner and then orlando has the like song 16 tons where it's just like a mining company owns your soul and you are indebted to them forever and at the end of the
Starting point is 01:32:01 day there will be shakedowns to make sure you're not hiding any gold on you and then this one is just like the miners have gone mad and they're like bordering zombies yeah that's a good point it's a progression right those are all of like they're all of a piece yeah maybe yeah uh yeah we'll look into that we'll look at interpretation i'm trying to when did it open the 60s that opened in the 60s yeah so would do not walter not have something to do with it yeah when did he die story yeah yeah i saw his wife a clip of his wife with the not uh the bears the berry tails bears on instagram the other day anyway uh so we did those two then we did Dark Ride Which is like fine It was fine and I'm really scared of clowns I have a history with clowns You have a history with clowns
Starting point is 01:32:50 They did that It maze Last year at that Warner Brothers thing which I wanted to do No fucking way Not even after this I will never do An It themed clown Because that is the source of my clown right here oh oh the original direct like the original tv movie tim curry clown i wouldn't shower without someone else in the room
Starting point is 01:33:14 with me for three years because i was convinced a clown was going to come up out of the shower drain or actually i say that but it's not that i was convinced i knew it would not happen but when i got in the shower i would have a panic attack as though it might i couldn't get it out of my mind so i said okay let's go on dark ride full of clowns but it was like okay yeah so you were yes i was a little i felt pretty blah about it okay yeah i was a little worried going in like okay maybe this will not be good but yeah you were yes i was a little i felt pretty blah about it okay yeah i was a little worried going in like okay maybe this will not be good but yeah you were like yeah i think you could we were like even like kind of like none of them were tim curry so it was fine if if by happenstance
Starting point is 01:33:54 tim curry was working that night it would have been trouble yeah yeah uh so we did that then we did shadowlands i liked shadowlands shadowlands Shadowlands is like a samurai kind of a theme. Like you're going through like... Scary Japanese house. Yes. And there's like undead... Demon... Warriors.
Starting point is 01:34:16 And there's like a rope effect, not unlike the delirium thing we did where a guy got attacked by a rock monster and pulled back. Oh, great. They got like one of those real that's really fun a giant demon i i saw it was there but i didn't expect it to come out of the wall at me oh yeah yeah there's like a clap like a clapping and his arms are out
Starting point is 01:34:39 yeah and and i saw it there and it was like had its arms out, but then it came out of the wall, which I didn't expect. So that was one of the only times I actually yelled in one of the mazes. But you're being very brave. Thank you. And then we walked and we did Pumpkin Eater. But this is the section of scare actors where we were alone. Yeah. And there were just so many of them.
Starting point is 01:35:04 15 of them Yeah and it was really foggy No it got foggy in a different Spot but Those scare actors were also had the more Interesting costumes like there was that one Person with the shawl over Them and the lantern and the tiny little skull
Starting point is 01:35:20 Face oh and I liked that yeah I kept Going I like this one because You did that he followed us around he just followed us around but he wasn't a jump out scare actor he was just like creepy guy like swinging his lantern around as he went and like his true his true the performer's face is like hidden under a shawl and there's like a face a fake tiny skull face like coming out of the top of the performer's head, I would guess.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Great. And you just went, oh, I like this guy. And then he was just the third member of our party for a while. Yeah. And then there were other people joined. There was like a man who tried to get us to see the witch burning.
Starting point is 01:35:59 That was happening. We ran into Podcast of the Ride fans. There was a listener. But yeah, somebody listened to you. I think they listened to both of our podcasts. Oh, did they? I think so. I forget.
Starting point is 01:36:08 I believe so. They're like, oh, Lindsay, I listened to your podcast as well, I think. I only remember, oh, and Lindsay, which typically happens. Yes, I think we've talked about this, or maybe we're going to talk about it. Yeah, that's coming up. You were recognized in the podcast as the right universe as opposed to a primary in their own universe.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Yeah. I'm not recognized for the Teen Creeps universe. But you're right. They may have said something about Teen Creeps as well. Right. It's like as if Doctor Strange, when you'd be like, oh, Doctor Strange, you're from Thor Ragnarok,
Starting point is 01:36:42 not your own movie, Doctor Strange. You know, I'm a Thor fan, but I know Doctor Strange is from Thor Ragnarok Not your own movie Doctor Strange You know I'm a Thor fan But I know Doctor Strange is from Thor Not from so you're like That would be the same thing Jason have you been recognized for being part of the Duncanverse Oh Um
Starting point is 01:36:57 I've been recognized for being part Of the Allstateverse You're a major part of the Allstateverse You were the primary member of the all-state yeah you are the all-state i guess that's true i was i was on a cvs on wilshire and a guy was like hey you're in that all-state commercial and i went oh yeah yeah and he goes that's really good work and i was like oh thank you i mean i was very impressed like he was like so complimentary of like the performance and the commercial I don't know if he had something to do with the business or...
Starting point is 01:37:27 Anyway, I was shocked. My craziest recognizing, let me say really fast, is that I have this whole... I forgot if I talked about it on the podcast. I have this whole history with The Room, the bad movie The Room. Yes. I saw it a lot in the first year. My mind was blown when I found that out. Yeah, I was like, it's in my Wikipedia even.
Starting point is 01:37:41 I'm happy. I was one of the first people to see the thing amazingly. And there was this DVD that the room people put out. There was an audience reactions DVD. And it's me in 2004 as a dopey, wormy little bad improviser in college. Just like clearly sarcastically going on and on about the movie, although I love it very, very, very much. Anyway, so this is DVD where you can watch me And a bunch of my friends you know rambling about The room I shared
Starting point is 01:38:07 An office with Oz Rodriguez at Funny or Die for a long time and I Finally started talking about like yeah this thing With the room and he was like that's where I know you from I had that DVD for so long and I was like who are these Fucking dweebs going on
Starting point is 01:38:23 At the room It was like six months of sharing an office with somebody and he was like mad he's like this dork you're that fucking dork I was proud but also like oh no I was so dweeby in this I lodged myself in your brain
Starting point is 01:38:40 and he thought that you were sincere or he knew and he's like who are these hipsters going on about this movie anyway i love i do love the room very much uh i'm proud of my association with it anyway you're in the room to be in the room of verse wow
Starting point is 01:38:55 i'm in the book the disaster artist right photo of me if you're at the bookstore and you see the book the disaster artist pick it up and there's a picture of me in the book all right soaster Artist, pick it up and there's a picture of me in the book. All right, so let's do that. And I played you in the movie. Yeah, Jason played Scott in the movie.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Take a picture. If you go into a Barnes & Noble, pick up the book. Oh, yeah, do. Take a photo with Scott in there. I'm really proud of it. Why else would I? I don't have a picture in a book. I haven't written a book. So open the book.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Take a selfie with you and Scott in the book. A picture, a photo taken by uh aaron my now wife who was my friend back then hashtag wow scott and scott roomiverse hashtag scott those were the days hashtag scott those were the days and if you find pictures actually let's keep it real hashtag oh hi scott oh yeah okay okay great oh hi scott okay great that's a new meme now yeah anyway sorry um no no so we did uh yeah shadowlands very cool um shadowlands was interesting last year was one of the first ones i did and i was still in the fog of being terrified so i didn't like it back then but now i did like it so i i knew it was kind of a paranormal ink for you yes so it lifted uh then yeah we
Starting point is 01:40:06 walked through this so many different scare actors my favorite one of my favorite things was that there was a scare actor literally just hiding like a cartoon character behind a light post like just like this and then oh yeah he got everybody it was wild except for us except for us because we were just lingering with with people, the listeners, and then some performers that came up and tried to get us to watch a witch burning, which you poked some holes, I believe, in the logic of what he was saying. Remember he said, I forget, you broke. Yeah, well, possibly, at least in regards to the movie, The Wicker Man.
Starting point is 01:40:45 They were like, we're putting all the witches inside a wicker man. I was like, I thought that was the witch's job to do to you guys. I thought the men go in the wicker man. I was looking for lore and I couldn't really find anything definitive because it's all like it was, I guess, just a way for Christians to scare people about druids. They were like, and they burn people in a wicker man. Everybody's like, whoa, okay, Jesus. And that looked really cool. But we had a dog to take out and mazes to finish.
Starting point is 01:41:12 So we wanted to see the burn, which burning, but. Oh, yeah. And we were going to watch Puppet Up because you were sort of morbidly curious. And the second we sat down, I went, i don't want to spend 20 minutes of the night watching i've seen raunchy puppets before i know what's coming yeah you sat down and then you were like i don't want to watch this and i was like all right you're right fair enough yeah you are cool we only had so much time though yes we had a dog take out and we want to do all look i had very you know not too long ago ago saw my friend Nate's show where it was like
Starting point is 01:41:49 raunchy puppet Les Mis. So I'm good for a while. That's going to last me like five years maybe. Yeah, on raunchy puppets. Yeah. I mean, obviously I prefer clean puppets. I like a clean Robin the Frog puppet singing about sitting on stairs robin's about the most pure puppet there could be and divisive is for some reason i was just about to say very
Starting point is 01:42:12 divisive me and maddie at work love robin and justin and justin michael who justin michael thinks robin is lame because justin michael also writes for infinity Train. Right. And we get in fights about it. Yes, I don't know why. He hates Robin. Robin is Tiny Tim. Justin Michael, of all people, that's actually the joke that he makes. He's like, I feel like he's always about to be like. He, Tiny, there's a reality where Tiny Tim dies and it's Robin dies. I know.
Starting point is 01:42:41 And that scars me. Justin thinks he sucks. Take it up with Justin Michael, ladies and gentlemen. I think he's wonderful dies. I know. And that scars me. Justin thinks he sucks. Take it up with Justin, Michael, ladies and gentlemen. I think he's wonderful. I watch it every Christmas Eve and I fast forward through the coast of Christmas future because I can't handle it. It's not like I'm like,
Starting point is 01:42:57 oh, Walter's my favorite Muppet. No, Robin is good. Well, do you like Robin or not? Listener, let us know. That's an interesting question. Hashtag Robin, yes. Hashtag Robin. I got a nice feeling when you mentioned Robin. I like Robin, but he's divisive for whatever reason.
Starting point is 01:43:14 I don't know why. Is Bean Bunny divisive? I don't think so. I don't think so. I think everybody likes him. No, I thought we, in our episode, I don't think we were even sure if we like Bean Bunny. Oh, really? I think I said I liked Bean, didn't I? I don't know if I like Bean. Oh, I don't think we were even sure if we liked Bean Bunny. I think I said I liked Bean, didn't I? I don't know if I like Bean.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Oh, another device named Muppet. He certainly can be a bit much in Muppet Vision 3D. You know, he wants to help. But Bean was being positioned, I think we were talking about, he was being positioned as like a big player. That's true.
Starting point is 01:43:43 And the film is an odd remnant of any we've done this before what else we got here and we'll do it again skip special ops you've done that we did not do special ops and that was my least favorite and it's the gimmick of like the gimmick of shooting was not satisfying i i don't want to be mass shooting scared'm not scary farm i think that i want to be ghost scared i wasn't even really into the aliens right um sea creatures i want ghost scares uh-huh you don't like being scared by aliens you want to be scared by i don't want to be scared by real world things like sea creatures and aliens you just want to be scared i mean there is some comfort in knowing that it's you know people dressing up in costumes scaring you because in reality real ghosts are
Starting point is 01:44:32 residual memories and the residual memories that haunt places we can never abandon oh she's talking about this last night yeah i honestly i was talking about this on a podcast last night that will come out soon i was talking about this at a completely separate location last time i go some podcasts it's october uh yeah it's october although this is a tis the season this podcast i don't i think it's coming out next week it's called bigfoot collectors club which i think we'll both do it soon too yeah yeah i would do that uh yeah so anyway we talked about that uh anyway so yeah no special ops no special ops um so yeah we did pumpkin eater which eater was great pumpkin eater very scary very cool very claustrophobic like there's big goopy seeds the grossest coolest
Starting point is 01:45:19 part is there's goopy like as if you're in a giant pumpkin Is it like the seeds hanging From goopy like pumpkin Strings Like when you're carving out a pumpkin We were talking pumpkin are we talking Peter Peter Peter Peter was bad Maybe So dark Peter Peter If Peter became the pumpkin
Starting point is 01:45:40 And ate you But I didn't like the inclusion of aliens In pumpkin eater i was like no i just want an evil possessed by a demon i want demons not aliens this is my stance on scares i mean i i respectfully disagree i think we need a matter of a lot of alien i like aliens i don't it doesn't need to be everywhere the aliens don't need to be everywhere Demons need to be everywhere All demons all the time I didn't mind the aliens here Going through that like corn maze
Starting point is 01:46:11 Kind of a thing was scary And a lot of what's also a good trick is when it's open air Yeah and I felt like I was going to start Sneezing any second So yeah it'll fuck with your sinuses So that's another plus And then we did the last maze which is i'm trying to find i'm going to put the video up uh which is new origins yeah it was great uh and this one
Starting point is 01:46:35 i'm very excited because i kind of realized what was happening i didn't really read too much about it is that this is a maze that gives you the origin of the entireire haunt So this explains while you're walking Through it why there are monsters everywhere In ghost town what's going on Why is that Witch So it starts out in like the courthouse And you got a crazy old like
Starting point is 01:47:00 Judge who pokes his head out here Although now he's apparently not in the video I've picked There's a judge shouting at us yeah uh and he's cool i guess that was broken that night also a tit well no it wasn't a robot it was a man i didn't remember yeah uh he's on a break this is also just a bad video but anyway you go through like uh you know the whole ghost town and they like uh kill this woman and burn like do they I think they burn her in there yeah I think yeah
Starting point is 01:47:28 well I thought it was an animatronic a second ago I can't be trusted that's fair and all the sets I'm trying to go through curses the town right yeah so she curses them because they killed her yes and there's like a classic tale and the tale is old as time
Starting point is 01:47:43 she raises she says all these scare actors And there's like a classic tale and the tale is all this time. She raises, she says, all these scare actors will scare teens from far and wide at not scary farm. Yeah. Here's a better video. So you're going in like old timey school houses. This was one of my favorites. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:00 So you're going in like the whole, like fucked up. I mean, that's all the ghost town stuff but you get to walk through it and it's all scarified yes but i love the old schoolhouse and it's great because like that we've talked about this many times uh knots expanding sort of the calico the ghost town stuff and this just adds a little bit more mythology to it um and uh yeah and this is also coming up is where i got hit with a giant foam hand which
Starting point is 01:48:27 was another accident that happened uh scared the shit out of me uh which is good thing those were foam uh because i would have probably been knocked out that's why they make them foam i'm sure yeah they're not supposed to do that uh we're just watching this so there's a place that goes outdoors which is really fun and then the big uh the big sort of ending is that we go to the end and jason did you watch this already uh yeah i can't remember how it ends there is a spooky lady very wizard of oz style witch that is finally revealed. Like sort of it's her origin story, I think, too. That's the hand I got hit with. Oh, that is a huge hand. It's a giant hand.
Starting point is 01:49:10 It sure is. I was picturing a lot smaller than that. Yeah. And they obviously, honestly, in my memory. That's like the size of a wall. In my memory, it was smaller than that, too. It's crazy to think that Knott's is the more like homegrown, smaller park. Because, I mean, Universal has a full movie studio at its beck and call so the production values are very high
Starting point is 01:49:29 but knots has almost like equally high production values it's like very dedicated to its scary farm premise yes yes and they're the original haunt yeah yeah i'm sure that that's and they take it very seriously but yeah when you look at all this stuff it is easy to take it like for granted how much work big pain in the ass it's got to be to set this like 10 of these things up they're all temporary that's really good come up with the story and map it out so that it's not the same as every other one um but it is cool like that cedar fair still lets them do all this stuff and you know if six flags if six flags buy that buys it i don't know if we're in for like uh doesn't seem like they're gonna come with a second bit doesn't seem like it i don't know okay so here yeah here's the reveal and we'll post all
Starting point is 01:50:15 these links uh there's just a witch flying around oh god damn it this video is not gonna even show you the witch stop showing your dumb friend it's a what she dressed like the wicked witch of the west from from uh oh here we go she's flying around which looks like a lot of fun she's on this like circular going around for hours uh very fun very cool uh and we were and then we were like well we've got to go oh we also did um you have to go into like the depths of hell through like vinyl siding yes like squishes you hell's walls are vinyl siding it's like being birthed through a black canal into hell while there are all these like screens made to look like mirrors or something where the calico witch is screaming at you yeah yeah like she's appearing in a mirror very cool effects very cool i could have done with like
Starting point is 01:51:11 less neon green and more neon you know neon feels like a more modern color yeah so this if this was supposed to be a little old it should have been maybe like yeah that like neon blues and greens feel too new uh so but very good so lindsey where do you land would you do this again are you do it again okay i would so you there's a gradient by the midway through you're on board yeah and definitely looking back i'm remembering it more fondly because i i keep saying like oh yeah it was great but keep in mind that when i was experiencing it i was still going yes you ground your teeth down to a nub just a low moan the whole time like any of us need a another reason to grind our teeth yeah i know i know that's where all the anxiety lives is sleep yeah um do you
Starting point is 01:52:06 think we need to would you go so far as to saying jason and i need to get off our asses and do this i think you should do at least two two mazes or two mazes two mazes two mazes at night which which oh it doesn't matter what are we calling a haunt and what is a maze? A maze is like a single waxwork. But a haunt is the whole thing. This whole time we've been saying you love haunts, I thought they were the individual mazes. No, they aren't. Well, he does love them, but he also loves the forest.
Starting point is 01:52:35 My verbiage was wrong. And the trees. Two mazes. Two mazes. Two mazes. Just because of my experience where I was like blackout nervous and it took me a second one to go, okay, I get this. I would say it's like, it does take three or four. I would say give it two, but probably it's going to take four.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Just like if you think after two, if you're truly like no i cannot handle this then at least you tried a couple times i think two boysenberry beers and then you start yeah there's also a good tactic i really liked that boysenberry beer too but i am wondering if i was thrown off a little last year because knots is kind of unfamiliar to me but like i've never been to hollywood i've never been to knots but i i think like if like if I Universal Hollywood in the back lot I know Pretty well so I'm like oh I'm wondering If there would be a slight comfort A slight more comfortability
Starting point is 01:53:32 Probably not The chairs are right there Harry Potter can come save me with a Patronus Yeah Except that part of the park is closed What? But Harry Potter is real But Diagon Alley is open during
Starting point is 01:53:46 harvest. Right, and they do a fun show. Is that right? They're doing a show in Orlando during at night. They're doing the dark arts show. There's a different one. There's Death Eaters coming out at night in Orlando. Which is fun. The hanging.
Starting point is 01:54:02 I thought it was going to be fun and creepy. Do you guys know what it's like? Because Justin Michael told me about it. It's like Bill and Ted, right? Yeah, what the fuck is that about? I don't want a fun, goofy... I want more ghost hangings. I want it to be a creepy show.
Starting point is 01:54:17 Why would you have a funny show at Not Scary Farm? Everything there should be creepy. Well, because you can get a little bawdier. I am upset by this. Like the Starway tells you don't smoke weed. No, let Puppet Up do that. Keep that contained to a single room. But you were, and I told you Elvira had done a show there for like 30 years.
Starting point is 01:54:36 You like that. That's different. Because she's bawdy. It's a brand you trust. She's her own special Thing but if you're just throwing Yet another pop culture Reference joke Show at the audience
Starting point is 01:54:52 I find that unacceptable I see well Where she's carrying on like a Halloween Tradition of like Herself and Crypt Keeper and all the classic Horror if you're just gonna do like Witch Bill and Ted
Starting point is 01:55:08 No, boo. I see. Well, they've been doing The show for a long time. I know, Justin Told me that and again, unacceptable The hanging has been longer than first So Bill and Ted ripped it off So cool and the set Looks so cool. The set is very Impressive. And then it's not scary
Starting point is 01:55:24 Yeah. No, boo And then it's not scary? Yeah. No. Boo. It turned into a not scary film. Maybe there's cool effects in the middle of their pop culture jokes. I don't care. Okay. So, we're down on the hanging.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Yeah. I'm glad we didn't take the time to watch it now. I probably would have asked to leave after two minutes. I want to go back. I do want to go back this year. And maybe it's all shows this time. Puppet Up, The Hanging, and then Puppet Up again. I have less of a stomach for terrible campy things.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Interesting. I like just campy, but not like... What really gnarles your teeth is awful campy things interesting i like just campy but not like what really gnarles your teeth is awful camp i i like not pop culture lazy pop culture pun and references is not camp to me so i like camp not this is bad and i'm gonna laugh at it as much i don't have as much of a stomach for it i think i said the thing with bill and ted seemed like it was camp made entirely by heterosexuals that just doesn't seem to click which yeah bill and ted are the ultimate no homo characters i think they make a big point of proving the show those horrific movies yes yeah
Starting point is 01:56:46 man can't wait for the third one i have a feeling apparently keanu reeves is a special angel sent to us from heaven he's such a good person seemingly yeah that's what everyone says um i have a quick pitch for for the hanging uh the actor i forget the gentleman's name who played genie in the california adventure show put him in the hanging yeah if you're gonna do it pop culture jokes there so we have the ultimate version of it yeah and also take the bill and ted actors and put them down there too so like have a whole team up of all of the best pop culture theme park shows i'd watch that i'd watch uh avengers infinity war of all the theme park oh what a dream that would be shows and then like the donkey cart
Starting point is 01:57:38 the donkey universal card is on stage as well uh then it really is the scariest thing yeah well audience of four by end of show not try it maybe you three and someone else who's been on the podcast uh uh six flags if you're listening and you've bought cedar fair by this point that's what we want so anyway that's it we did it yeah i love haunts and lindsey loves haunts too now she loves them as much as i do i am warming up to haunt yeah the look on your face doesn't say it loves i i read horror no problem but experiencing it or watching horror movies is harder because it's not just in my head yeah and yet through all of this terror i am i am drawn in edwin's bursting out of the blanket
Starting point is 01:58:32 whoa a scaracter coming right at you oh my gosh oh no and this is part of this dog shakes around um but now he's as adorable as robin uh lindye, you survived the Hauntcast to the fright. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Is there anything you'd, I can't, I don't know, scarify. Is there anything you'd like to? Just the usual. My podcast, Teen Creeps, and my show that I write on infinity train on the cartoon network
Starting point is 01:59:06 check those out as for us as we've said too many times uh so there's a little bit more hauntcast the fright coming uh at patreon.com slash podcast the riot as uh and as always there's three bonus episodes every month so go check it out uh come see us in chicago and orlando guys it's so soon yeah really we're almost there i'm so excited two weeks away or a week and a half yeah uh we got some work to do uh and uh for regular podcast the red stuff follow us on twitter instagram and facebook i didn't scarify any of those names because you have to know the genuine yeah you have to know the real names but uh instagram october 16th wednesday october 16th on chaos the fright begins on the patreon and we'll save the scary name for that for your listening experience yes yeah uh your expectations way up um but yes uh and uh it continues here on the main Feed next week and then
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