Podcast: The Ride - Mike, Scott, and Jason Love Haunts

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

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Forever! Dog! Warning, the following hauntcast may contain mysterious cupcake cues, mildly unpleasant and unclear stenches, and the pure fear of 40-year-olds going through haunted houses for the first time. All bets are off this Halloween season because for the first time ever, Mike Scott and Jason love haunts. It's a whole new spooky world on today's Hauntcast, The Fright.

Welcome Foolish Mortals to Hauntcast, The Fright. about scream parks hosted by three headless men in their gories. I'm, hey, I'm Skart the Clown. I'm taking the one. You took it. Well, it works better for my name, I think. If anybody can find a better way to do it, does anyone else have we thought about this?

Yeah, five minutes ago I thought about it. So there's no, it's not going to be very good. As opposed to the high high standard that usually very good. good, but this one is going to be really. Uh-huh. Can I just call myself Michael Richmond Myers? What is that?

That's my middle name. So it's my middle name between Michael Myers. Your middle name is Richmond? Yes. Hmm. Did we not know? Why did I never know that? That's a bigger story here than my bad pitch for a Halloween name.

It's not terribly the thrilling or scandalous, I wouldn't say. No, it's unique, though. Richmond. It does sound like I'm kind of an aristocrat. Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah, you're like a rich man. The, I guess, I don't, I'm confused by it.

Yeah. I'm not saying you shouldn't be confused by it. Why the middle, why couldn't it just be Michael, why is the, why is the, they're the addition of the middle name? Because we're fusing the two together, refusing me together with the famous character, Michael Myers. We're refusing you with the character, with a fact about you that no, no one, listeners or us knew until right now.

That's right. So there's a couple things going on. It's a fun surprise to learn my middle name. And then second, it's a fun mashup. People love a mashup. It's a conversation starter, I suppose. Okay. I'm just doing things off the beaten path.

I'm not doing things normally. This is, we've done many honkast of frights, and I'm innovating in a lot of ways with this one. We're getting weird. We're getting weird and wild. Michael Richmond Myers. I like it. What's Jason? When you said it, I like it.

Oh, I'm just Jason Voorhees. Jason. What about, no, add your middle name to it. Yeah, I think that's the standard. Jason Michael Vohrhees? Jason Michael Vohrhees. Okay. How about that?

That's good. So here we are with Michael Richmond Myers and Jason Michael Vohy. First of all, Jason copied my homework. He had another couple minutes to just make something up and he copied my homework. Well, actually, I was just going to say Jason Vorhees and then you started going before I was able to hop in. I think maybe your accusation was, yeah. Can you, will you attest, be you on the record under oath, say that you had Jason Voorhees locked? I did have it.

I did have it ready to go. I don't believe him. Wow. Jeez. I don't believe him. Okay. We're doing weird, we're doing weird middle name constructs. Yeah.

We're accusing co-oists of ripping each other off. He stole my idea. He got mad that I went with Scart. But again, how are you getting, other than if it's just Jason the clown. I was about to steal your idea. and then you suggested, oh, just do what I did. So I was gifted your idea that you actually did. I feel like we have to really construct the questions correctly to prove that you're lying.

I'm backing off this. I'm no part of this one. This is a Mike Crusade. I think there's some technicalities. I think there's some technicalities is what I'm saying, where he's saying he didn't steal with my idea. Scott said he was Scart the clown Is that correct?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and as he was saying that, I was like, it would be funny if I just did Jason Forties and then Mike went on his journey. So he has admitted that he didn't come in with it. He didn't think of it until right then. But he's not,

he's saying that he thought of it first. And then we had group think and we had the same exact thought. But if he got his, if he got his in his head before you, then I think we're fine here. And I don't know what, this is, it can't, like, this is, this can't overtake the, I'm not willing to let this be a ganging up on Jason situation. I'm not trying to gang up on them.

I'm not trying to gang up on him. I think, you can gang up on me all you want. That's fine. I'm comfortable with it. I think we're missing the bigger picture, which is that I was prepared to just do a cop out because I forgot to come in with a match up name. Well, I forgot as well, obviously. Because I was so like, oh, I have to write down on my memories and fun experiences. Did you write down all your memories?

Well, thankfully, I remembered I had been writing a lot, like, as we were there and as we had just left. You were writing Civil War letters to Jane at horror nights. Dearest Jane, I've just emerged from Art the Clown's Chambers. I finally received the cupcake, and boy, there was nowhere to sit, so we were just hanging next to a wall. If only I were at a sweet and gentle southern home, one that wasn't infected, infested with crows and the music of Slash. The house itself was nice, but the things inside it sent me into a tizzy. You know I normally love the guitar work of Slash.

But tonight he's taking it to a twisted new place. Unsettling in this context. Of course, it was not just any simple. complications arose as they often do during these trying times. Oh, boy. All right. Well, there's things that I have to learn, I guess. But, you know, okay, so overall thing here, this is the first toncast,

the fright of the October season. Yeah. I guess a month can be a season. So, you know, we know the drill at this point. We've, listeners, some of you've been doing this for many years. It's another Halloween season of us just listening to Mike, describe the things. things that he himself did. Wrong.

Wrong. Not true. We are immediately subverting the way that this typically works because this time around, Jason and perhaps bigger news, me. I only say because it doesn't seem like you've ever been, like, afraid of this. He's been afraid of this. You think so? He clutched my arm at the first scary farm, and he hadn't gone back in seven years.

Okay. Yes. Yeah. Well, yeah, similar with me. Yeah, we took, like, a brief walkthrough in, like, 2018 or something early on in the podcast run. Jason and I got out of there real early, possibly because we've been podcasting on another podcast in a bungalow for seven hours. So that way it was probably more of that, although also I was sort of not digging what we stepped into there. But here we have come all the way around.

And the big one that we're talking about here is that all three of us together, went to Universal Halloween Horror Nights. I can't believe it happened. Yeah. It happened. Me neither a little bit. I wasn't sure. I was still trying to find ways to not.

Yeah. You were like hoping some sort of like some thunderstorm would rain it out or something the night of. Now look, I don't, I didn't like when the city was on fire. And I didn't like all the things that happened from the fire. So I don't want a fire like that. Yeah, yeah. But if there was a small, just a small fire that just like burned a little bit of the hill, overlooking the war of the world's plane crash

and let's not let it get a house and let's not let it get a person but just enough that maybe shut down the whole hall and we had tickets for that night I guess we can't oh and that's the one that I cleared and can't really do it again you did say this

this was legitimate during the day you were a little bit I don't know you were feeling that yeah absolutely Jason were you also feeling this similar or were you just hyped and ready to go I was pretty hyped yeah

okay so you would psyched your up. I had psyched myself up. I thought it was a good assortment of houses. I had watched a lot of, you know, watched, you know, ordinary ventures that we had on the show before, other, and live streamers who were going through the houses and stuff. So you prepared by knowing what to expect. Yeah, I did a little research. I, I, yeah, I spoiled, but I didn't. remember like set pieces or little moment there was there was one or two set pieces i really wanted to see in the house and that was more like i want to see the technology i want to see how they pull this off sure with the big puppets and the animatronics sure sure um yeah me i did not

psych myself up i was a side but i sec myself out i was trying to psych myself out of it very different things. Yeah. So just like, okay, my general journey here, just to remind listeners where I've been at, I've been a little Frady Cat the whole time we've been doing this, a brief dip into knots, but I didn't really like it. I've been avoiding it in all the years that we've been talking about Hanson October. Two years ago, I started to warm up a little bit because I had so much fun at Shacktoberfest. Shacktoberfest. Tachtoberfest, RIP, defunct, events. I mean, still there is a haunt at the Queen Mary. Dark Harbor. But with the lack of the Shaq branding, my interest has plummeted. Yeah, yeah. If I'm not getting welcomed in a

pre-recorded message, one of 300 things that Shaq had to record that day. And there's no inflatable shack. No, no. That was amazing. Really, everything I like is gone. No, but I did say in you guys earlier a picture from Hershey Park's shacklishish left track indoor coaster featuring a themed overlay inspired by shackalicious

XL gummies who someone sent us some bags of and they were pretty good and thank you so much for sending that. Yes yeah. It's themed after, wow so there's multiple levels of branding there. So it's just giant shack

projection. But specifically projections of him in the big gummy candies. In the big gummy candies, it's kind of like a carnival themed coaster, like an indoor, lots of black light. This Halloween, laugh track coaster. This Halloween, laugh, double F, track, double K evolves into the all-new shack-alicious laugh track. Now, we got a couple things going on. I like the double in both. and then that track is spelled weird

but not spelled weird like shack it's not T-R-A-Q it's T-R-A-K-K Shackalicious laugh track Get ready for a bigger Boulder X-L ride through a shackified world That's why I like Chectober Fest

is you got to live in a shackified world of giant glowing gummies base pumping beads and over-the-top fruit-flavored mayhem It's undeniably fun It's totally outrageous Mayhem. Fruit-flavored

Mayhem. So I guess Jason's life is full of fruit-flavored mayhem. This is where I

learned like oh I guess Hershey made those Excel gummies I didn't realize. And at the time when we tried

them I thought I was like these might be a little too big and then as soon as I started reading about the

shacklishous laugh track coaster I was like man I could really go for a shack sell go me.

Are you doing a grocery order for that same listener to send them to us again? If you're at this store, just pick up an hour. If you can put a pavilion, sweater in. You do them all, but you don't have to go in yourself. I'm not asking for, you know,

and you're like a postage. Find the cheapest postage you can. No rush. Anyways, I went to Shaqtoverfest mainly for the to live in a shack-sized world. But I ended up in a haunted house or two, which went okay. And it started to demystify it for me a little bit.

So I was feeling a little warmed up. So it was like maybe the next year I will do more stuff. Oh, not to mention the haunted car wash in Anaheim. Oh, right. That's true. You did that too. Yes, which was actually so disturbing, so frequently that it was maybe like a bigger entry into this world. Because you're stuck.

Yeah. Yeah. You got nowhere to go. You're boxed in. There's cars in front of you. This car's behind you. sincerely scary characters. Some of them are licking your car.

Clowns licking your car. But, you know, if I enjoyed that, then maybe I can start getting somewhere here. So the next year, one year ago, the idea was that I would do more stuff. But at that point, I had a baby due to drop any day. Very convenient. Yes, I know. Yes. And did he show up very early?

Was there a reason? Did we have to specifically cancel? cancel events that were supposed to occur? Yes, we did. Now, did I, you know, feed any womb lubricating agents to Aaron in order to get the process started? Maybe I did, but that's just because I wanted to meet my new beautiful, bountiful baby boy so bad. Sort of cooking it into the food. Like water on the nightstand.

Little vials. Little powders that just got to like start, like that pop off like fireworks. Let's get the process start. I can skip the skiers this year if I get this baby out here. No, well, whatever your theory is there, you know, if you are, your conspiratorial like Mike, who thinks that Universal built, burnt King Kong down, and that I made the baby show up early on purpose. That's fair enough. You can just ask questions.

But I got to skip it. I got to reprieve, but it brought us to this year. And it brought us to this specific day. You picked one. You picked a Sunday night. And due to you picking a Sunday night, that gave me my first opportunity to be a butt because I can be a little bit weird with Sunday nights because I've got to get up real early the next day now that the baby is here. I don't know when that bomb's going to drop. I don't know if he's going to wake up at 630 or 545 and I've got to be prepared for all of it and do a ton of work and also get the older boy out the door for school.

So Monday mornings are crazy. So when you said Sunday night, I was like, yeah, that's funny. but I got to be out of by nine. I'm at by nine. So I was immediately just like putting up a fun wall. Yes. But for practical purposes, too. There's truth in there.

Right. Because if you were being tortured, at least you have a heart out, as they say. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And I can feel like I did a little bit, but then I could always pin it on. I got it. Right. I'm having a lot of fun, but I got to go.

Family first. So anyways, but it comes. and I'm getting psyched for it, but I'm also, here's what I'm seeing, is stuff from, was it the first week? Did we go later in the first weekend? No, that was the second weekend. Then I'm probably seeing stuff from the opening night,

and I'm judging it off the opening night. And here's what I'm seeing. Insane lines everywhere, and that's always the case. I'm seeing videos on social media of cars backed way the hell up. Oh, right. At the parking, in the parking garage, where every booth, Lane is full and backed way of the hell up.

I'm seeing that food and beverage lines are completely insane, which I also recalled from Fanfest nights that we did with Shearer. There's another thing that made me want. That got me excited to do. Like, okay, well, clearly the bar is very high for these universal short-term events. So I want to see what they can, you know, what they're capable of producing from. And we were like, oh, there's more at horror nights than this generally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. And there was the one that didn't end up being too scary. but the Dungeons and Dragons one for a minute felt like it might be more in the Haunt Avenue. So I got my adrenaline going. Yeah, only to sort of get to taper it down. Scott, did you see what they announced for the next fan fest nights?

Scooby-Doo is mashed up with the Universal. Meets the Universal Monsters. That's pretty fun. Uh-huh. Well, Scooby-Doo has a proud tradition of meeting the famous guest stars, famous celebrities. And while we'd obviously rather it be Dick Van Dyke and the Harlem Globetrotters, I think, you know, those monsters are great big stars as well.

That's fun yet. Also, it is interesting because you could have put it in horror nights, technically. True, but I guess it's a fun. It's a kids. Yeah. Maybe they don't want to soften anything. Maybe it is a little too kid-oriented or something. It won't be bloody, probably.

Oh, maybe. Yeah, yeah. Will it be bloody? You think so. I don't know. It's Scooby-Doo. won't probably be bloody. They haven't done like a Riverdale Scooby-Doo, have they?

They will, but if, like... I don't think they're doing the zombie, the Archie Zombies. They are doing that. I'm just saying, have they done like an adult Scooby-Doo yet? It feels like they have. It feels like they've thrown so much shit at the wall with Hannah-Barberra. Well, the James Gun ones were a little bawdy. Yeah, but there wasn't like a slasher film.

No. I don't think. Get in there. That's one of the only viable ideas on Earth. Yeah. The only thing would sell. horror Scooby-Doo. Anyway, the day comes

we get, and I'm, so I think I'm texting like, this is this going to be crazy crowded? What's this like, what's this parking going to be like, I'm like getting pre-mad about things? Trying to figure out where to park and I avoid hassle. And again, look, am I trying to get out of being scared properly? But I also do not like hassle.

I don't like that. I've seen traffic in that area for horror nights and it's back way the hell up off the freeway. So I'm trying to avoid hassle. You did a great call picking Sunday. Because watching various live streams Fridays and Saturdays do get a little nuts, crowd-wise, at hard nights. Maybe that's, I'm sure, opening was crazier, maybe Fridays are crazier. Okay, okay.

We also, we were very generously invited by Universal Studios. Yes, and so we did get to skip the lines. Yes. That was a big deal. This was a wonderful privilege, yes. With the Express, we didn't have a guide or anything. Like, we didn't do the rip tour. which seems very fun.

You're making sure people know we didn't get that good a service. Well, no, it was great. I'm just saying, like, you can too. You can do what we did. We weren't, we were not, let's be clear, we were not carried around in Thrones, Cleopatra's style. I want to be very clear about that. Mike and I did have a, like, a private experience beforehand

where we just stared at Woody Woodpecker in tracksuit plushes. because if you would if you can believe it there wasn't anyone else really in that store looking at like wait what what store you caught up you saw it's coming out of it okay it was a universe store which i feel like there's a half a dozen of now at citywalk

but it's like the cool the better design stuff the happiest jason with a woody in a track suit in a track suit and meanwhile mike mike was so enamored with it, he didn't notice me going, Mike, there's an actual Woody Woodpecker track jacket right there. Because I was like, am I about to buy a Woody Woodpecker track jacket tonight? I know, I know. I've spent a lot of time with you guys and I understand your interests and your likes.

Why are either of you excited about either of these things? Woody Woodpecker, Mike, would you want a Woody Woodie track jacket? No. I don't know. I was going to. He was going to get it. I was like going to get it like a thunder shirt to wear it at our nights. I was excited just to see that he had this little like kind of suit.

I mean, it was, it's like a track suit kind of a thing. But it also could be, it almost looks like a something you'd wear in a science lab or something. It could be a whole like one piece like containment suit. It kind of looks like the fallout. It just looked kind of funny to me as a little outfit. You know I'm a big fan of little outfits. Yes. I love little outfits

So the fact that Woody was in a different little outfit I enjoyed I didn't purchase it I didn't I don't know So no one but you all just adopted this little Woody baby For the purposes of a photo I kind of had forgotten about it

I guess this looms large in the memory of the night For Jason is meeting the Woody with the track suit on Which I like to be reminded of it Don't get me wrong And before we started recording he was like We're like are you ready Jason Yeah you do a picture

from the night, right? He did say pictures. So I wonder if you really wanted to make sure that there were was it because of this? Was it because you wanted to see yourself with Woody again? That and my friends, the crows.

You were gone, I think. Oh, okay. You know, I think. We saw it from a distance. We went into the NBA store too. It's our first time in the NBA store at the Citywalk. Which looks very nice.

I fell out of my chair for a second. You guys, you went in there, you were in there. Well, it's a new store at Citywalk. It's something we have to cover. We have to look at it. You can't just spring this stuff on me on the air. You can't, it's too, it's like, like if you, if you told me my parents

had died or something, this is too much of a shock to the system. You guys got to go in the NBA experience store at City. Yeah, we did. We did. We, we strolled around a little bit and then, yeah, I don't, we didn't do a full, like, review walk through where we feel comfortable reviewing it, but we did do that. Yeah. Well, clear this, we, listener, you know that's kind of, you, I know the highly anticipated NBA experience episode. Well, it's Slice House is opening this week that we record this so that's going to be a big deal i thought did you so you went online and wrote tony i was i was wondering if you guys would notice yeah i noticed and the email yes and said hey tony we've been doing it on instagram we've done a hey it's looking great in there tony we've done a

podcast that's done over 40 episodes about city walk are you doing a press event is there any way that we can get into that yeah and he did respond and say not for this place no but come on down well we're gonna come on down I love that I discovered that not via you saying it no I didn't tell anybody I just didn't and I don't do this on our Instagram ever

I just caught it that he was in introducing the story showing it off so I was like you know what I wonder oppressive in first slice house a restaurant that is just open already really near

a lot of places that they all live but maybe there was some like hoopla Maybe a big city walk, hey, we're here. Like a ribbon cutting. Right, a ribbon cutting. That's right. With a pizza roller. Scissors you've seen, but you do it with the roller.

That's fun. Yeah, that is fun. Yeah, so I guess there's not, they're not doing it. Woody in a track suit could do it. That would be fun too. Or Tony in a track suit if he was wearing it. I don't know. Tony and Woody dressed together.

Tony Gemini. Yeah. The creator of Slice House. Oh, I would love, we did see at the universe store, they had blind boxes of Bob the Minion and his teddy bear Tim and they were doing fun summer activities they were camping they were going to the beach

they were at the pool so they're blind boxes but you know that so what you don't know is what type of summer fun you're going to get I know and I was really thinking about but it was pretty large was this just another you were just remembering another fun memory of Citywalk I well the you remind

me by showing the Woody and I was like oh there was other fun toys in there oh I see you were just yeah but what do you have to think about Tony Jimiani don't you want to go Slice House? I am excited I need to try more kinds of the pizza I feel like you were just trying to get rid of the excitement

of Slice House and I'm upset because I'm so excited you feel like you're mad that Jason moved on from Slice House too quickly to talk about summer fun minion blind boxes I apologize Michael I was we were apologize for that.

There's never been a thing that was owed an apology less. What more did you want to be said about Slice House by Tony Gamignanini? I like what Scott's doing. I want you to fire him up. I want him to yell at me. We're so. I'm mad that you're being apologized to. I'm trying to unleash the beast.

I've been trying to unleash the beast for a while now. I'm just saying we were so delighted by all the new offerings citywalk, why it's more magical than ever with all the construction walls. I think the only way we can make this right now is that you need to say one more thing about Slice House before we move on. Is that what you need? That's what I need. Okay. One more observation, please. Do they, I'm

hoping they have a tomato pie or a grandma pie. That's exactly what they have. That is what they have, right? Oh, that's great. Well, I had only had cheese and pepperoni there before. Oh, no, they have a lot of options. Well, I want to try the other options. All right, well, we'll do it and it'll be a couple more dollars on the one in Burbank.

The one that any of, either of you could go to as soon as we're done with this right now. Yeah, but it's not as fun. Yeah, it's not, this one's not going to be like the one at CityWalk that has still an entrance tile, like, mosaic on the ground that still says Sparky's. It still has the former tenant. That says nice homage. It's a little nice nod. It's like when they've, when the country bear heads are up in the Winnie the Pooh ride. Yeah, that's nice.

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dates and links on our website at the best show dot net that's the best show dot net thank you so much and i'll see you there um let me let me go back to my journey a little bit here which is that i so i'm you know i'm worried about hassle i And I, and of course, in there is that I'm, I don't want to get scared and I want to be prepared. And then the night comes and it's like a particularly kind of like warm and fun family night. Like we're having a nice family dinner and Aaron cracked open a beer. I'm like, God, I just want to stay here and have a beer. I don't want to.

The kids are being great. Like, why am I? I don't want to do this. I fucking. And then like, and then the Emmys are on. And so I start playing that up too much. Now I'm like, I got, you know, Mike wants to do these things. And then I don't even get to watch the entire Emmys.

I don't get to see. I'm just going to have to learn online later how the Nate Bargotsie Boys and Girls Club thing play. I'm just going to have to read later about how weirdly received it was. I don't, you know, I'm not going to be able to watch the Ascent of the Pit live. I'm just going to have to see headlines about it. So suddenly I'm like all of a sudden the Emmys are my best friend in the world because I'm trying to get out of going to the thing.

But then I hatch a plan and the plan that saves everything for me. Because I'm starting to assume I'm going to be in the parking line. Just that is going to take an hour. And that's getting me riled up. So I'm like, okay, you know what? Because I know that the gates open and there's a fucking monster parade as soon as you walk in the door. The carnival of carnage. Yes.

Okay. I'm going to walk straight into a carnival of carnage. I want to be prepared for that. I don't want that I get hit by a carnival of carnage and I haven't pre-gamed it in any way. I don't want to be stuck. Like it was it an hour to get a beat. what's going to happen to me. So here's what I come in with.

I'm like, all right, brilliant scheme. When I get into the parking line, I'm going to take an empty can of sparkling water, and I'm going to crack a beer and pour it into the can of sparkling water. Wow. So that if I'm stuck in the line, so that it'll pass that time, and then I can have a nice little buzz going before I am even in the universal gate. Wow.

I will be set. I will be primed. I'll be fortified. Then I pull up there, and I realize the parking line is totally full. fine. It's not an issue whatsoever. Yeah, we got it very quickly. Yeah, and I text to you guys like, oh, we're up here already. We're, uh, oh, yeah, we're looking at trackseat Woody's. Uh, nonetheless, this ended up being a fantastic plan because I got like, A, it was a little bit fun to do. It was just fun to like make the little switch.

Yeah, it'd be a little bad, yeah. I'm doing something a little bit wrong. Uh, uh, and then just kind of the cognitive dissonance of walking through city walk with a beer, but a secret beer and nobody knows. Wow. I needed something that I could focus on and make too big of a deal out of. But then, sure enough, by the time we get in, I'm like, oh, this is great. This is kind of, I think the only armor I need for this entire thing is one IPA, I think one stone hazy, and I am set to go and not to spoil things too much, but that really was all I needed. That was like, and I didn't, like, I didn't keep going. I didn't drink like crazy at this thing. I think I had one more, but like it was just all these years of fear of these events of just like

it building up in my head way too much. One IPA. One IPA was all it took. IPAs were and are always the answer. Just a magical concoction, a magical elixir. Fixed the fear problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Just a little bit, yeah, just a little bit of stealing me, you know? Wow. Yeah. Jason, let's let's dive in. When was the time you decided, all right, I'm going to do it. Was it truly this year? Was it weeks ago? Well, I told you last year that I would go to Horror Nights. Yes, that's right. Push my ass in a wheelchair.

Right. And. Although I think I wanted Fright Fest specifically, but you said horror nights. I said Horanites just because I, like, horror nights felt more comforting because I lived down the road because I'm like, sure. Oh, if this gets too overwhelming or too fatiguing, I'm, you know, I can get in a lip. It's not a big drive. Yeah, yeah.

So horror nights and not. are like an hour away, 40 minutes away. So, yeah, and I had, the last few years in September and October, Jane and I had been watching a lot of house walkthroughs and just putting on live streams and were just hanging around, like, you know, fiddling with our phones.

So I started to get kind of amped for it. And then I thought it was a good, assortment of like movie how movies and stuff and houses uh uh themes and all and i was like oh this is cool um and so i was like and i also remember when we were in orlando in 2019 when i walked by the universal uh florida gates and it just seemed like a party in there and i'm I'm like, that does look really fun. I want to be where the people are. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it was really sold out by that point. This guy never met a party, he didn't like. Let me in there, he said. Yeah, yeah. But that was the year, it was, it was a lot of cool, like, throwbacky, 80s kind of vibe and, like, cool music. And I think I follow one of the, like, fan-made playlist of, like, this is the soundtrack from that Hollywood. Horror Night from like 2019 Halloween Horror Night. I remember listening to it during the pandemic in 2020.

You specifically glommed on to the 2019 Halloween Horror Nights music. Yeah. They just had a cool assortment of music when we walked by. So it's been building for a while. There's little bit things here and there that have made you go, I should probably one of these days. Yeah. And I remember like even when I was an intern in college, like,

you know, scurrying to my car because I'm like, I don't know. I gotta go by like monsters and stuff. I gotta get out of here. Like, when Horror Nights was about to start, you know. So I was like, all right, I think it's time. I think I'm okay. Can I just, I looked up the soundtrack

of Halloween Horror Nights 2019. I don't know if this is what you, I'm not sure if this is the one you were listening to. It's like a 50 songs on it, 100 songs on it. Okay, well, let's check it out. Is this what you're talking about? No, it was like some moody ambient music. Nothing wrong with that either.

Oh, that's good. No. Ooh, let's hear. Oh, yeah, hey, all right. Okay. Music at the time, you know. Is Man Eater a Halloween song? It has to be.

This is another one of those. It's just a fake Halloween song. It's close enough. There's nothing particularly scary about the composition. Right. But the concept. Boom, boom, boom. I mean, I don't know.

A woman who is metaphorically a man eater, less so, but a literal man eater. Right. I mean, pretty scary to me. So, and I also packed, like, I had a, I didn't want to be way down with a bunch of stuff. So I just had a cross-body bag. And I had everything from time. Highland awe, I had Xanax, I had modafinil, it's like a pep pill, and earplugs and sunglasses so that, because flashing lights and loud noise can occasionally be cognitively training

and the amp up fatigue. So I ended up keeping the sunglasses on most of the night because that like tamped out some of the lights and also made me feel a little invisible like they won't they won't come for me uh that but uh quickly learned uh when you are there in a wheelchair they will actively come for you to make sure you're included yeah i feel like you got a lot of action yes i think they were ducking down there quite a bit i sure did um so the other thing i told mike and this you when we were driving into the parking garage I told you this I was like okay

I in therapy we talk a lot about mindset shifts and changing the lens of how you look at stuff and I'm like in theory these are the monsters houses and we are the invaders we are the villains so they are behaving in a rational fashion

and so with that mindset at going in, I was like, oh, of course they're going to try to scare us out of their house. We're bothering them. Yes, he explained this philosophy. And that kind of clicked something in my head where I was like, took away some of the power. They're just defending themselves. Yeah.

They're not, they don't have anything against me personally is what you, that's my reading of what you were saying. Yeah, sure. This is a nice thought, but I do think Art the Clown has something personally against all of us. I think many of the characters. do want people dead. It's just the lens he was looking at it through. I think it's a lovely thought.

I'm just saying canonically, literally. Yeah, it perhaps is not universally true with all the stories. Because some of those, like, the poltergeist, well, the poltergeist is defending itself because the house is built on. Freddie Fasbear is just defending his pizza place. Right. Well, he's also kind of possessed by the ghosts of the victims.

child victims of serial killer. So I guess that is of defending them, I guess. There's got to be a, yeah, Art the Clown, perhaps an exception. Scott, didn't you have also a philosophy as well? You were telling me something. You had some sort of thought process. It wasn't the exact same as Jason? Maybe I'm misremembering.

It's not, well, if whatever you're saying comes to me, I will tell you, I will think about that. You had some statement that I go, that's funny because Jason explained us something that felt similar to me. Uh-huh. Maybe it was just an offhand comment. I'm not referring it offhand. I mean, definitely there is the philosophy that one IPA is very nice. It was that.

It was not just the IPA. There was a little bit of philosophy about the houses, the way you were thinking about it. I don't know if this was the, but like, by the time I got into it, it did become like, well, you know what it just starts to become for me is almost like a, you know, I like, I like having a beer or two and then just like taking a stroll around the neighborhood. Just like kind of like mentally. getting lightly mentally stimulated just like taking a nice little drinky stroll and

it just became that but like the most interesting one I've ever done like sure you know getting steps getting a little exercise and you know just seeing how that that hits you very lightly inebriated and what could be more interesting than you know stuff jumping out at you and chainsaws

and right I don't know that that was my only little mental shift I think trying to remember what it was that's interesting because it felt like what Jason had explained to me that he had thought of a philosophy. I had some brilliant philosophy and now I'm just stammering on. I regret. I got to get in touch with that philosopher again. Well, you did have, you did discover something and I'll say first off these two men are saints. They both took turns pushing the wheelchair. Oh, geez. They made sure I was all right. They checked in a lot.

They were very nice. But at a benefit of the wheelchair, Scott was able to white knuckle the handles and houses. and it was kind of a comforting thing. Yep, yeah. So this became another because, I mean, maybe we could start getting into the specific stuff because your guy's thought was to rip right into it and go to terrifier, terrifier being the art the clown. And the most popular maze of Horonites seemingly.

Yes, yeah. And that made me a little nervous, the idea that we're going to start with the one that could be the scariest, the creepiest, and all this talk of Art the Clown. I've never met Art the Clown. I haven't watched these films. I don't know what I'm in for.

So that I knew that getting over the hump of one would be a big thing. So a couple of things started happening. One was that, yes, I did. I was pushing you for a while, Jason. And then I, and I, just to get to the maze and I started that realization hit me that, like, wait a minute. How have I helped conquer some of my fear of launch coasters? Well, with the harness mommy. Oh, yeah.

up onto that harness mommy and any tension that I'm feeling, I could just put it into this physical item, just grab that as hard as I can. I don't think I'm going to tear it out of the mechanism. I think I don't think I'm that strong, so I think I'll be okay. And I started realizing this could be the exact same thing. I could just grip those handles super hard

and put all of the tension right into the hands. So I thank you for giving me something to do with my hands and a place to put my tension. Well, we also got to gone back to City. walk while you a track suit would a woodpecker and you could have like death grit that too. I think one of those monsters would have made fun of me for that. The other thing that became a comfort that really eased me up in there was, you know, am I interested in being jump scared?

Not particularly. What is something I'm interested in? The physical layout of Universal Studios. Right. Where the park areas become backstage areas and the various, you know, layouts, you know, we're all people, I think, who look at overhead maps of the property to see, like, where are they going to build new stuff, where are they going to renovate new stuff? And when I realized, wait a minute, this maze is way the hell back by the parking garages.

We got to do a long, long walk through the backstage area of the, it's what is between Universal Hollywood and City Walk, and that is the corridor that I used to walk to work for this beloved job that I got to celebrate for a month of being a tramp tour guide. So being on that walk made me very happy. Like, oh, we're back here. Okay, yeah, there's Walter's Gate. And now we're behind the movie theater. Okay, I'm understanding. I'm getting my bearings here. And then my favorite thing was getting to see something that didn't come up in the entire month of September, which was the rickety staircase. I got to see the rickety staircase that I would take that would take me from the, from the up the hill backstage zone down to the,

area where the tour leaves from. And I have such fondness for walking down this upsettingly narrow and upsettingly rickety staircase that doesn't seem to have been particularly improved in many years since I did it. Like weird creepy staircase, almost like what takes you from the Bates Motel to the psycho house. So the comfort of, oh, I see, okay, I don't have to talk about the many, many art the clowns that are popping out just back here before we've even gotten to the mazes. What I could focus on is backstage areas and, you know, what they might, what might happen there in the future is universal those overalls. Outside of the terror fire, like throughout the park, that was the thing they established early on was, oh, by the way, there's wandering Arthur Clowns and he can go anywhere.

He can bother you anywhere. Yeah. We saw five before we got in a maze. Five Earth of Clown encounters throughout the park. There's so many. Yeah. So you had to go through Hogsmead to get to this backstage area where terror fire and polter guides were right next to each other.

Yes, yeah. And then we get there and I'm going, oh, my God, I think this is the vacant parking lot where many years ago in his very special memory I took Aaron to meet the Roden Corpso of Botanicus. So now that I'm, like, now that I've been tricked, I'm focusing on all of this and the backstage memories and backstage layout, I'm not giving any thought to. tear a fire. And then by the time we get up there, when we get to the front of the line, I realize that any tension that I feel I can put straight into your handles. And then there is also a task to focus on. I am pushing Jason. I'm making sure that Jason's legs don't

ram into things. Mike and I both are lifting the flappy things, the carwash type. The flappy things in between the rooms. Yes, that separate the rooms. And that must have been very annoying getting in your face as we, any time we went from, Mike and I did what we could, but I feel like those things were very much buzzing like a bee in your face. Well, something I didn't consider, but I was also like, well, everyone's got to deal with these. I will also say a lot of food cards and souvenir cards

set up in that back area and temporary bathrooms and stuff, and I think that added to the comfort because I was like, oh my God, this atmosphere is like a raucous carnival. Like there's that You say it because they have bathrooms? Well, there were just stand. There was like drink stands and food

stands and souvenir stands and everyone's having fun and there's crabs everywhere. I'm kind of like, yeah, it's kind of like a carnival. It's kind of like a party. It's not. And it I think is the case in both coast, but especially in Hollywood. I'm like, our scare zones

can't be that big because there's There's no goddamn room. So. True. So it's not like, because yeah, the, the thing is, especially with horror nights, is that there's so many people, I think that's oftentimes a good way to start with your haunts because being alone still is scary to me if I have to go through like a haunt maze alone. Yeah.

So if it's just me they're letting in and I'm the only one in there, I still get more scared that way. But there's a little steady stream of people, a bunch of people outside. laughing it takes a little of the like oh god away i i do think that i've built all of these things into like these are traps for you personally scott yeah don't all of these other people they don't matter this this has been you are the main character in this and this is all a thing this is all a big trick designed to fuck you up yeah as opposed to the reality which is it is of fun theme park carnival

type atmosphere in which you were one of many many thousands of people there sure that's what I kind of thought too before 2018 the similar thing I don't understand these sick freaks that go and do this

what they like they like this why would you like this I think yeah I think every one of these look if if they are if the characters doing the haunting have penises then the Penises are definitely rock hard.

They are perverts. They are doing this to get boners. It's like a perverse Monster Zinc situation where they need my screams in order to get hard. And that's this whole, I'm on to you. Every single one of these tons, I know exactly what this is. Nothing but deviance all around me. As opposed to the truth, which is probably just one out of a hundred employees. Get hard.

Get boners from your screams. Just a few. Just a few. And wear masks so that you can't see the creepy look on their feet. Yeah, yeah. Or they play creepy clowns so that the smile has to be creepy already. Right. So that that boner smile that they get.

Right. It's just what the character would need anyway. The character looks like that. I also remember, like, a thing I've said on the show before that, like, someone should have sat me down when I was kid. Like, hey, it behooves theme parks to keep you healthy. and so you can keep coming back and buy food and souvenirs. Okay.

You mean they weren't going to beat you up? Yeah, they weren't going to beat you up. Yeah, the clan wasn't actually going to beat the shit. Well, I said that's my rule. You got to do two houses. You got to do two mazes because the first one, if you're freaked out, you go, ah, like it really freaks you out. And then once you're out and you've calmed down a little bit, you go,

okay, I see what the limits of this are. Yeah. Yes. You know the bounds. And even if the next, even if there's more to come that are somewhat scary. Yeah, you got a couple more scary, at least like I know, okay, well, now I know kind of what one is like. And I know that unless it is 500% scarier, I'm probably going to be okay. Mike, let me just say, as you've said that, that kind of all of the things you've said over the years of doing this and like what you, your, how you've gotten braver and your advice to get to get us to do it.

I very quickly found all of it to be very accurate and correct. Oh, okay. Thank you. I think, yeah. My advice. Things like that, just like, you know, kind of ripping the Band-Aid off, doing one. You'll feel better after one or two. Yeah.

And the confidence builds and adrenaline builds. I've just like your journey, I feel like became my journey. My journey might be universal for everyone who goes through. Yeah. You know, I did, I did you, after the first one or second one, I forget, maybe both. you were like, I feel like you got, you were like, amped, you were energy and I was like, you do get a little like surge of adrenaline. Yeah. You do you feel like, oh, I'm going to get some, do something. Like, so there's something to it

that way as well. And that's not like, I wasn't, I wasn't mad or maybe that is one of the emotions in there. But I, I, oh, I think, I think at some point I was saying that I, I, I started inhabiting the role of a little dog who is barking a lot. as if to overcome... That's it. That's what I was thinking about. That's what I was doing throughout was just... No, no, no, no.

Yes, that's what I thought. That's what I was asking earlier. I know I'm not big and strong, but if I just make these noises... Right. It'll overcompensate. Oh, see, I just... I took comfort in being an obsessive

because I was like, well, I want to do this house. I want to do this house. I want to eat this. I would like to see this show. I would like to... And we... We didn't 100% complete everything. Scott, as you said, you left early.

I think Mike and I stock around until about midnight. You want to talk about adrenaline and endorphins are up. And I thought it was very funny that as we were leaving, there were two things open at CityWalk. Ben and Jerry's and It's Sugar at midnight. And I'm like, oh, they know. Yeah, everyone's amped. everyone's hammered

people want some junk food after like all those jump scares but none of the places that serve alcohol are open no it's probably illegal just candy and sugar it can't be illegal well I guess it's not legal but just not in the current city walk laws

yeah by law you're saying not not by the not the state of the city but the city walk ordinance demand that anything fun be closed at nine and that anything fun not be that fun right well I mean if you're if you're I mean, if you're leaving City Walk and you're feeling, you know, amorous, you can get a candy thong and you can wear it. Oh, yeah. You know, so there is whatever, depending on what kind of excitement you're feeling after City, after City, I feel excitement.

God, all those haunts really amped me up. I think, I know there's only one thing that could keep this high going. I have to buy and wear a candy thong. Well, that's what Jason and I did. Yeah. We stopped in and got, got two. And is that, did you put them on in front of each other? No.

Oh, come on. Please. That's ridiculous. That's unbelievable. That's gross. You wouldn't do that. Can we discuss, by the way, the fact that the halal guys seems to have. Oh, I love to discuss this.

This seems to have retreated from Citywalk. It was going to take the spot of the crepe cafe and now the signage has disappeared. So now there is seemingly no more halal guys coming to. Yes, what we're hearing. I mean, there was some controversy already. There was like, oh my God, Hual guys. is coming and then some of the language for it and some sort of permit disappeared and people like is halal guys coming and then the sign went up and it was like no no halal guys is coming

and now it's gone now it appears that halal guys is out and we don't know what's going to replace the crepe cafe i don't know if they know but it's interesting look when one door closed when a window closes the door opens so it could be even more exciting what moves in there more exciting than I yes I had halal guys easily attainable chain halal guys

being at a less attainable place I had halal guys for the first time in a couple years in Glendale like a week or two ago

unrelated to this news but maybe not I did too actually I got me curious because we've been talking about it yeah what do you think I think it's gotten

worse since I had it I didn't like it at all I wouldn't go that far for all this talk I did not like it I get it every time I go to New York I go to a cart

and some of the those are official. I was going to say, are those actually brand of Hul? Oh, wait. Some are Hala cards. It doesn't count it. A halal cart is not Hala guys. But there are Hala guys.

That's how they started. Okay. And I, yeah. I think they just, you know, chain restaurantified it into the point where it's like, ugh. Yeah. I thought, yeah, that was bad. And kind of a bummer location, too.

Yeah, it kind of felt sad in there, the one on brand. It's next to an 85 degrees bakeries. So you can eat a halal guys and then go get a treat. The bread seemed like it got a lot. Or the, like, PETA really got bad. No, there's so many better places. Yeah, I, no, it was not, I didn't hate it, but it was like, oh, this is, the kick got bad. Oh, that's a bummer.

I haven't been to that one in a while. But, maybe the CitiWalk one would be good. I don't know. I would love universal halal. It's possible. I wish that I could freebase the optimism about CityWalk and CityWock restaurants that you somehow have maintained after all these years. What you just said is that an existence.

The existing location that is not at CityWalk was very low quality, but you think the CityWalk one was going to be better? Maybe for a few years, a few months. Look, Raisin Cains only sells like four or five items. It's hard to mess. How are they going to screw it up? How are they going to screw it? And they're building new structures for it. That's what's very exciting about the Raising Cains.

Yeah, you can see the Rebar right now. There's rebar going fresh rebar at Citywalk. And girders. And girders. And girders. There's fresh girders. I wonder how they're going to fuck things up. Cut to you guys eating a fried piece of rebar.

you know what I actually you know what I kind of liked it you know it's kind of like because chicken I know I've had chicken so many times but fried rebar is kind of a that's an interesting treat and you can only get that at CityWax so yeah yeah well just I mean I'll this is one strike one more strike and then I'll think about stopping so yeah so raising canes that's interesting to who knows what the new I love the signage at slice house too I think that's fun little signage outside and that gives a little more character there's like different fonts that say like wine and beer. There's a new sign, I think. There's a whole new, like, signs that extend out. It's not just a flat sign. I feel like I'm losing Scott a little bit. I got to show him this. I got to show him that there's a sign that says pizza. It says what's offered at the restaurant. Pizza and craft beer is what it says. Oh, wow. So we can go get pizza and craft beer or go get, like, fried chicken and coleslaw. And then Philadelphia, hey, Philadelphia is getting a WNBA expansion team soon. Uh, you can go to the NBA store and get a jersey you know get a can you do they have WNB they have NBA and WNBA

and some cases of autograph stuff okay well then it's good that you guys did your little trip so it is good things is it still called a jersey if it's like a NBA tank top if it's best well tanked wait what how does saying it quietly help and why do you think we'll know I don't know I I'm just embarrassed the difference between a tank top and a jerk what do you mean no dude Do you still refer to that as a jersey, like a football jersey or a baseball jersey? Oh, basketball jersey? It is a basketball jersey. I think so.

Okay. I wasn't sure because the form factor was different. Tank top. That's true, but I think so. Okay. I guess so. Oh, God, now I look like an idiot. Is that, I'm second guessing everything I've said.

Nothing about City Walk. All that stuff was right. But everything else I've said, I'm worried now. There was zero, there was zero idiocy. I forget. The predictions about the quality of a hypothetical city. walk along guys all right back to our nights i forgot one of the big things i did to prep i watched terror fire one through three oh that's right uh-huh so and where this is we've established by now

where where this landed is that you love art the clown he's a silly goose he's a silly goose who's lore is progressively getting a bit complicated um because there's demons and uh there's a little uh girl art the clown in the second one okay uh i'm just She wasn't wondering around more. I think she was in the house. I think it's probably kid performers are often used. It's a horror night's? But yeah, to counteract my one horror movie from last year, I think I'm up to about

seven or eight this year. Wow. Okay. All right. All right. A more robust viewing. Okay, great. Uh-huh.

Any highlights? Um, well, I liked the first air. fire a lot. What are the other four that you've watched? What? Hellraiser? You did? Oh. I did. Yeah. Which was kind of sillier that I thought the first Hellraiser, just because

it's very melodramatic. Much like these events them so. We've just all built these things. Yeah, it is gross, though. Megan, too, very confusing mixed messages about AI, and one might say more of a science fiction Thriller. Okay. Friday 13th,

part two, and part three. Kind of crappy. Oh, wow. Kind of. I like, I mean, it's set-ups for

ridiculous kills, but certainly the acting was better than the first one, but I kind of missed the odd-ball script in acting of the first Friday 13th. Okay.

Shot New Jersey. The second a third scene to be shot in California so I'm just saying. Oh, that's the difference. That's the magic. The New Jersey difference. Okay.

All right. Well, so far you're Mr. Halloween this year. I have not made my way to the elevated heart of... The second film was shot in Kent, Connecticut. Okay. So your assumption about

Los Angeles is not correct. The third one I know was shot in California because I watched like, here's the locations now and then. I see. Video. Okay. I knew it was moving around.

The fatal flaw. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, let's talk about this maze a little bit. Yeah. Terrifier? Yeah.

So there's a lot of, I mean, obviously, I think with a lot of the ones that are on both coasts, I think Florida mazes tend to be a little bigger. But this one was good. They hit you with, you go through like a room with, a lot of newspaper giant newspaper clippings

which is a nod to when her late the one character's late father got obsessed with

Art the Clown killings and then you are pretty quickly hit with like three Art the Clowns in a row

coming from every angle I would are there 50 people dressed as Art the Clown in any given night that's what it feels

like 30 maybe it's just It's art after art after art. Now, let me say, I've had my issues with clowns on this show. I don't find art any scarier than any other clown. He's a regular scary way. Oh, okay.

I don't think there's anything in, and I don't think I knew, because I don't know. I feel like when he first came up on the show, he was almost built up as the scariest character there ever was. Yeah. And I don't, I, from meeting him and seeing the things he does, I think he's fine. Well, he's a kind of a silly goose. He's a silly goose. He's a my main clown. So, listener, if anyone asks you, what do you know about the terrifier movies?

Well, it's about a silly goose. He is a goose who is so silly. I said in the live show, he just wants to slash you, you know. And he's got a million dollars smile, you know. He's got a big old smile. You are in love with him. I know. I like him a lot.

This guy. Well, when we had Chelsea, Rebecca on, she's like, oh, David Howard Thornton who plays Art the Clown, he's the sweetest guy, he's the nicest guy. But you haven't met him. I never met him, but I was like, he's silly, and then he's really nice. Like, he's a great part of the horror community, she said. There's nothing wrong. I just find it charming how much you love the character, Art, the Clown.

Yeah, well, I think it was kind of funny. see because there are elements these movies that are pretty campy and i love uh the the promotion as they were coming out of like this is the sickest gross out thing you've ever seen uh and then actually sitting down and watching them i was like come on they're kind of fine that is kind of silly it's like they're sillier they're sillier because like you can see like the um stunt stuff and like the makeup low-fi kind of the effects and stuff yeah there is a low-fi

they definitely demystify art a little bit by having them everywhere yeah because like yeah I'm like because they were building it up like you could run into art anywhere we've even I read that they cleared that if you thought that the stores were the only place that are safe

where you're not going to meet a scary character think again we talked to the stores we worked it out and you might be shopping for a shirt or for a Woody Woodpecker in a track suit and then bam there he is Art the Clown you never know where you're going to see Art the Clown could see him in the bathroom could be anywhere could skydive in and land on top of your head

you don't know when you're going to see Art and then very quickly it's like there's Art there's Art again and none of them are that scary I think maybe the restaurants might be they might just be peeking in and waving all that I don't think these interacting

at restaurants a ton because they don't want people to choke That's thoughtful. Yeah, that's probably... Art does, but they don't. Art would love a future. Yeah, in character, or in cave, art does. But, like, they don't want incidents in the bathroom

where art startling people at urinals or, like, at sinks, and then the gas slips in a puddle. Yeah. Yeah, sure. But, I mean, I guess that's what you're saying is the spirit of the movie. Like, I guess, like, it, he's a little bit more, Like, he hangs back a while. Like, he almost like, oh, he's in the distance.

Like, art is in the mix. Now I shouldn't say that about it because it gets in people's faces or whatever. That's not really the best comparison. But art's just around and hanging. I think Pennywise is scarier than art. I mean, he's in the sewer and... He's more sinister and he seems to kill a lot of children. But it would be different of like, if it's like, oh, there's a clown.

Oh, Art's over there. He's behind that. You can see him behind. He's in the alley. And he's, like, staring everybody. Versus like, hey, art's running up and down and goofing around with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It does make him, like, more fun.

It makes him sillier. It's the host of the party. There's the maze. The thing, because I haven't seen these movies yet, I think it's number two, that there's a particularly gross murder of a lady. Upside down. No, that's one.

Oh, that is one. That's one. I apologize. But there's a grosser murder. There's an equally gross. murder in two. Okay, but they have that murder in the maze. Yeah, kind of sawed down the middle.

Yes, sawed down upside down. Yeah. Which is pretty gross. Yeah, this is some pretty extreme stuff. But I, you know, yeah, I mean, look, I'm writing down details when I did a rewatch of like, all right, well, there's, yeah, art is, you know, there's a woman upside down. He saw her down the middle and he's pouring bleach onto a woman with an exposed brain. but one thing I quickly found is like

I'm not really upset by any of the tabloes I was not I wasn't like In fact I will say this Nothing that I saw At Horror Nights or Scary Farm which we also did Which we'll deal with down the road Nothing that I saw was more

Tandually upsetting to me than The Haunted car wash where the clown Licked my car That was that was the only thing Nothing at any of these fully produced things Created a more Something where I was more upset by the image than the clown right in my window inches away from me licking the car window.

Well, I was hoping we'd have a little more. We went through, there's a clown cafe sequence in the movie, like a nightmare or dream world with a very catchy song about the clown cafe. And then the nightmare art pulls out a Tommy Gun and mows everyone down. Now, that is Tommy Gun Art does appear one of those walls. where they change the lighting and it's a scrim and he's right there. But you don't hit every scare

unless you ask, you can ask like, hey, can our party go through alone? Sure, yeah. That's usually dependent on capacity and crowd, I think.

The, yeah, with the gross stuff and the blood, it still doesn't register to my brain as real. Yeah. Which is good. And that's why

the clown licking my car was more up. Because it was real saliva. Yeah. Yes. It's the only real thing out of any of these things that I've witnessed. The only thing that really grosses me out is sometimes they have weird smells. Yeah.

And the weird smell will just get me sometimes, but not anything crazy. I am interested, because we did all these houses and there were definitely smells, but a lot of them just kind of blend together and it's like a general mustiness. Except there was one where it was like, oh, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was. with Mee Ma's like old perfume. Like it was just a hit of floral scent with the mustiness. Sure. I thought I would be more upset with the smells than I was. Well, okay, that's good.

I mean, there's like stale pizza in the Five Nights at Freddy's maze. There's a stale pizza smell? Yeah. I kind of didn't clock that. It's a subtle thing. I mean, the air on all the mazes is like hot and thick. Yes. Just because of the nature of California and the way there's ventilated.

it, I guess. And that they're sitting in the sun all day and people start going in. Right. So all the mazes are hot. So they all probably smell like the paint that was put on weeks ago. Right. So there's probably a general smell. Yeah. The fact that it comes right on the and that it's like, I mean, honestly overlaps with summer. Yes. It's not even like after summer. Right. Like if you're doing this in September, it's still, it's the worst of summer. Right. So there's that. So, but yeah, there was like a light pizza smell. I'm trying to think there is a smell. there is a gross smell in the terror fire maze but I don't

Oh because you're smearing poop on the walls Yeah but it's just It's not actual I didn't I didn't go oh that's poop I just went ooh that's kind of unpleasant But they don't go nuts with it Yeah I think if they went nuts with it people would puke Yeah

I think the heat plus Truly turned up crazy smell Would make some people throw up It kind of reminded me of like If you ever worked at a restaurant or grocery store like the dumpster or the trash compactor as a really sour like flat smell even when it's empty right film of ghosts of all the garbage that's been in it uh so yeah kind of experiencing dumpster ghosts but besides that so there was shit there was shit in like kind of what i guess is yeah an approximation

of poop smell and terrifier words naughty potty are used yeah um but dolly molly is another thing that happens he's like ripping a head down the middle yeah this one i i thought was really fun i do think i lean more toward kind of wanting like uh trippier trippier stuff sometimes but i do like seeing like silly gross gore sure and stuff that is fun to see yeah um but you know you see you don't like you don't want like demented carnival as much you want to be like genuinely uh freaked i think so because now it's been so many years of me going to do this do these i'm like i'm really trying to like hone in on exactly what it is what are my favorite things about it and i do think it's more and i think knots does a little more of it where it's like it's a little more disturbing psychologically

yes the difference between the two me being kind of a newcomer uh yeah i i was more i was much more unsettled yes not's not as noughts is weirder knots is more putting i think like almost the hollywood production value and the difference is only barely by the way I don't mean to say like knots is cheaper I mean it's like so it's so well done and like scrappier

you know and you know probably like doing a lot with with little budgetarily comparatively but like the fact that you're getting like at sometimes ride production values it almost like softens it in a way

universal yes I agree and they And it's so crowded and popular generally. There's so many people going through, too. Not you're more likely to get a couple times where you go through and it's only your party. Yeah. It's a little more. And then for whatever, yeah, they're just, with Hornites, it really is like the, I think everything is just so, they know how they know how they like to do it. And everything gets, I'm sure I'm repeating myself from year to year, you'll notice it like Hornites, almost every scare has the exact same like sound cue or a very.

similar sound cue there's a big bright light and it goes ah like there's this like kind of loud sting that makes you go ah um but like knots doesn't necessarily have something it's like a strobe it's a hidden thing or scrim and then and then and then it happens kind of on a loop so you can start to predict when it'll yes and where at knots it might go like you're in a weird minute with nothing and then just get pummeled by stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah i was i was edgier i would say at knots which is where the extra IPA helped. Sure, of course. And we don't have to go move on from Terrifier,

but like, Poultergeist, at least the start, I'm like, okay, this is, I'm... Yeah, I was going to mention Poultergeist. That was the second maze we did, Terrifier Poultergeist next to each other. Poultergeist exclusive to Universal Hollywood, not in Orlando. A thing Mike has talked about before in the houses

of like an unsubstable. settling thing is like a normal room and that like something that would be in your house something an approximation of a living room that you sat in or your own house or a place you grew up in or a friend's house yeah yeah it wasn't you go through the iconic the little girl in the living room looking at the static saying they're here that's the first room but what got me was the kitchen and there was just a man in regular clothes and he lunged at me and That got me. That I nearly jumped out of the chair.

There were a couple times where I was like, uh-oh, Jason's about to fly out of the chair. They got you so good. Because they, yeah, I did a big jump. And then admittedly, after I got used to it, once or twice, I was a little scared. And then I did a bigger jump just so the scare actors would know that. Oh, you were giving them a good job. Yeah, I was giving them a little. I didn't.

But that was later in the day. But you were stressing. me out because I thought oh no is you okay that's very that lets you know what kind of lover this man might be he's generous yeah I'm very consider if it makes his partner feel better he'll fake it well I didn't know I was trying to make out because I would uh I would have contained myself a little no I was I'm happy to hear that I'm happy to hear that but I think yeah I was just like oh God I hope that's I hope he's actually enjoying himself oh I was I was because I'm like because sometimes and I'm believe me I'm not immune to it like sometimes if sometimes they will get you especially

by the end of the night when you go ah yeah kind of this is fine i know it goes once in a while they'll really get you on something somebody will jump out and you didn't expect it or something will happen and you go ah and like i will like move like as if this is happening in my everyday life like i will react like i'm totally shocked so that's i'm saying that that's obviously normal i was just like i hope jason's not just being a tough guy hope he's not pushing through this just for the podcast. No, I was having a great time. Well, that's good.

I'm glad. And, uh, you actually had to go like, you know, because I was like, let's shut this place down and like, you need, you were doing, you said with your daughter, you got to get when the getting's good, you know. You don't leave when they're crashing. You leave when they're still up. Oh, wow. I did say, I did a parenting tactic with Jason.

Did you do a parenting tactic because. Because you said, let's steal two, and I was like, that would be fine, but I just want to make sure that, like, you're not destroyed tomorrow as far as your tiredness. Yeah, and I admittedly was like, right after you said that, we did a few more things. I was like, okay, yes, I'm starting to crash. Let's, let me get a soup and urine some food and then let's head out. That's a kid. It is a kid lesson. You learn is that you need to leave before they break down.

Sure, sure. You're like, okay, good. Seems like she's having good. Now they're not going to be happy about it, but it can prevent. Which is, I told them, that is identical to what they tell you about managing a chronic condition. As far as, oh, it's the same language. Don't overclock it. Don't over-exert yourself.

Right. You know, know your limits. Right. So, yeah, I just, we, everything was fine. Don't let a delightful clown excite you so much that you push past your bounce. Well, more, don't get stranded. on the backlaw terror tram because the experience is

kind of at least an hour if everything's going right. Yeah, yeah, we didn't do that. Yeah, we had to sort of pick and choose our sectors and we did this you know, this zone with Terrifier and Poltergeist closed out that.

But I, you know, as we were over, I really was like, you know, the fact that after Terrifier I was like, yeah, straight into the next one, let's go. Like I felt like I overcame a lot of fears. That was a big deal that terrified. The fact that that was fun and like If that was being billed as, if this is the scariest they got or one of the scariest they got, I knew I was going to be fine for the rest.

And poltergeist unsettling and maybe like bigger specific scares, like hand coming out of the static was pretty creepy. All that stuff. And there's like, it's kind of big. Stuff crawling on the kitchen counter. It was really scary. Yes. But, you know, then I was fortified. I felt fine.

Yeah. Those. A lot of puppets, a lot of giant puppets in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They have a huge skulls and say, yeah, yeah. And I think what got me is sometimes, this is a hard night's thing, and maybe not, Stu, but you leave an active room and you go through kind of a black hallway, which I think is partially to manage crowds and stuff and let your eyes readjust.

But sometimes that black hallway, they will get a scare it, which in this case were a giant strobe-like skulls. yes there were disorienting skulls yeah yeah that they can play with like sort of the way they do things because there are just usually like connective hallways

sometimes there'll be like a not a performer if you haven't done this this might be just information that everyone knows there'll be a person that with like a little wand waving you through

in like a hood which was comforting in its own right that it's like oh yeah there's employees making sure everything is working. Yes. We should say, you know what,

a fun, this is a spoiler alert, a fun gag, and you wouldn't have, since this was like your first Horonites maze, there's a gag where art is in the hood. Oh. And he takes it off. That's what that was.

So that was a little nod to like these people that are just there for crowd control to move you along. Sometimes in the dark person, especially you're like, I don't know where, I'm going left or right. Like, I don't know.

Depends. So they just need somebody there to make sure some people are lost. I feel like the, workers were all just wearing green polos. So that was interesting. Is that true? Yeah, I didn't, I don't know if it was too hot and they're like, we can't do the cloaks right now. But like, it just looked like parking attendants. So that's funny. Kind of comforting. Um, so yeah, there was, there were like a bunch of gags in the art one. But yeah, the Poltergeist one, as you were saying,

takes place in a house. That stuff starts to mess with me a little more. Sure. Scare wise. Yeah. But I'm so impressed by, like, this is a thing that's only going to be up for a couple months, and they've so, like, perfectly created this, uh, this intimate space, this lived in space. Yeah. I think, this is another thing I think that you've hyped up through the years is that, like, if you can get past that stuff that makes you edgy, just seeing, uh, the production design. And it's like, you know, it's like getting a whole new layer of, of attractions that, that aren't always there that, you know, of the quality of the ones that, uh,

we love through the rest of the year. Well, then, yeah, every, you're getting so much stimulate, like, every room, if you don't, I mean, if you watch the video still, you're getting it because you won't remember everything, but like every room you're getting a different, like, oh my God, oh, oh, oh, and then sometimes there's a giant puppet, sometimes there's, like, who, like, you're getting so many different, like, weird themed environments and then you're in and out, it almost feels like a dream in a while. Both of these that we did, like, I, you know, I don't know if I'm specifically a fan of puppets

or anything, but just, but, but, like, big stuff, you know, uh, just the, the, the sheer preponderance of giant things that you aren't expecting and I haven't watched walkthroughs of any of this so that like almost every maze has something that's so like wow this is incredible craft ship and what a big scary thing it was interesting

the fan fest because like fan fest had the Dungeon and Dragons thing which is a little more of like an immersive where that you would have to follow people along and there were rooms and stuff but you would stick it around in a spot longer than Horonites maze but I almost like wish we had

the hybrid of the two in a way of like a horror nights thing where you stuck around it like I want to like hey everybody sit on the couch in the poltergeist house sit down for five minutes sure and just absorb the vibes oof because I mean not for me I'm glad we kept moving yeah um should we in fact keep moving yeah oh a lot please you want to talk five nights at freddies yes five nights at freddies so that's on the lower line I've survived two of these and these seem like you know one's a little more setting one is more kind of raucous and creepier tabloes and shit and saws and stuff. Yeah. I had a feeling like, well, Five Nights at Freddy's is just going to be a blast after all that.

And sure enough, I got, there is nothing that bothered me about that. I was rolling by then. I was having a great time. So by then, it's like, all right, scares. Yes, sure, stuff's jumping out of me. But I get to be in this temporary recreation of a Chucky Cheese type environment. any like concern about scares is completely overridden by oh look at that stained glass they did really great stained glass or the characters over the benches and the seating feels very much of the time and getting to see a button that says like the showtime just like being back at an 80s checky cheese like all right well if the price i have to pay is getting scared a little bit yeah this i this is something for my horror month is

the first five nights at Freddy's you can get on the Nintendo Switch store and I'm like oh I kind of want to play that like I like this world I want to spend time in this world but I thought see when you were you kind of mentioned it on the show and you seem to paint it as some kind of upsetting Christian allegory I was confused by your review the movie is weird uh-huh like the movie is strange but I think I like the lore and the puppets I didn't, when I was in the maze, I didn't feel like I was walking through an upsetting Christian allegory. But maybe this is a thing from the films. Well, the little demon children got me in this maze.

The puppets didn't really, and there's incredible puppeteering and puppets in this maze. And they're all puppets and animatronics? I think in the main room, I think there's some animatronics and there's some puppets. It's hard to tell. Yeah, I couldn't tell. I don't know what I'm looking at. Because you can catch people in all black manipulating behind them sometimes. Okay.

I didn't catch anyone. Yeah. I didn't catch any. Only in a video later. I was like, oh, there's a guy. Yeah, in a video. Yeah. It makes sense.

That would be cheaper, I guess, than building them. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Are they doing animatronics for a maze? It's only going to be up for a couple months? I don't know. I mean, I think, yeah, maybe a couple things they did. I think out here, just the mean, Freddie, Fasbear in the first room is an animatronic.

Oh, right. And in Florida, here it's just shadows of the other ones. But in Florida, it's three of the, all three of them. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's a bummer. Yeah, I watched a video there. Yeah, that's too bad. But this is really, like, I guess this actually illustrates my point better than wanting to hang out on the couch at Poltergeist, but this is one where you're like, wish we could just hang out here.

Yes. Yeah, I would have sat in that room for a long time. So that's, yeah, that's the fun. That's another element of the fun. Now, you do have the opportunity to, like, eat at a restaurant that builds itself as a kind of a ready situation. Well, put a pin in that. Put a pin in that. All right.

So, so, yeah, so this, I mean, this was, this almost reminded me of the Ghostbusters maze a couple of years ago, which I'm like, oh, this is a fun maze. Yeah, really. This doesn't even scare me at all, but what I'm looking at is so fun and, like, surprising. Yeah, this is just, just no, nothing bad to say about this. Right. I just fully liked this a lot. Like Ghostbusters in 20, they, I know the original Ghostbusters won. Not that the other one was bad a couple years ago, but the one in 2019 was just,

like holy shit it's they puff slimer this is awesome jeneen and yes jeanne right yes jean was at the start of it yes just like oh fun fun maze and i haven't there hasn't been a fun straight fun one like that i feel like since the ghostbusters but yeah this one was like fun and i would like to hang out here

yeah yeah just great yeah they were fun and scott you kept going you you thought you were going to have to tap out time wise but you did stick around for your fourth maze Indeed I did. Yes. No, the hour came where it would have been wise for me to start making the Starway journey back up to the top. But I'm like, I'm going to push it a little bit. I'm having a good time. So that's an indicator if I had this went. The name, I have the name here. I wanted to make sure the name was right. Yes, yeah. Because it's very funny. Scarecrow, colon, music by slash.

Not parenthetical. Not like an afterthought. It's right in there. Yes. And it was not, I'll say this, because I was expecting. some whaling, but it was not like a whaling guitar solo music. It was much more like acoustic-y pick, southern deliverance style. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's a lot of, it's this endless loop that's this like

gong ch, gongch, gongch. Yes. It's very like, it's like the, it feels like an anvil in a chain or the percussion. It feels like the, it's music that would have been in a whiskey ad 12 years ago.

Real man stuff See it somebody like Right It was Arthur and Sons Will use it for a commercial When they open at Disney Spring At Disney

Downtown Disney Very aggressive I don't think that's their vibe I think they're welcoming and friendly We'll see We'll see we'll see We'll see if it ever opens Nothing open

They haven't built anything yet PORNes hasn't even They announced it three years ago They haven't even Yeah I hadn't been in downtown Disney in a while and then something popped up of walkthrough through downtown Disney I watched it and was like

this is still under so much of this is under construction plenty new don't get me wrong but I'm like there's large parts of this where there's nothing now I've heard third hand and this is not going to shock anyone third hand that Disney is hard to deal with in regards to dealing with a new business that's popping up in downtown Disney. Okay, okay. So who knows, exactly.

But anyway, sounds right. I'm still excited about the future of downtown Disney. It's just years off. But it's just five to ten years off. Anyway, yeah, you get some sweaty whiskey music. You get scare crows and crows both. Scare crows seem a little more concerned with scaring me, and scaring the crows off because it seems like all they've done is attract crows.

because there's a lot of crows, a lot of crows calling in the soundtrack, and one big red-eyed crow, big stilt-walking crow. Big, that's the least effective scarecrows I've ever seen. They're falling asleep on the job. And the crows are getting bigger. Yeah. All you've done, since you clocked in as scarecrows, is cause bigger crows to come.

Be scarier, to them, not me. This might have been the most unnerving maze of the night. I don't think I realized how upsetting scarecrows Oh. No, no, no. The second, the last one we did, I think. Well, the last one is a trip. This one did remind me, though, of, like, every year in the neighborhood I grew up in, a different dad would do the thing where they, like, just lot, dressed like a scarecrow, sat on a chair on the, like, stoop, and when you would go up to get candy, they'd jump out at you. Every year, a different dad would do it? Well, some people just had reels, like, stuffed scarecrows for decoration. but I feel like every year a different dad would get me. This seems like it's a deep-seated fear now. Well, it is. And my dad always told this story about, like, one house had, like, a scarecrow like that.

And I was really nervous walking up there. And they gave me candy, and it didn't move. And then when we walked back to the sidewalk, he turned around. And the dad in that house was indeed the scarecrow. that was sitting there and he just stood up and waved at my dad like he knew i was so scared he's like i'm not going to get this kid he pulled it so but he just friendly waved at us as we walked away so it makes sense why you're saying this is the most unnerving one because you had a deep fear of scarecrows growing up yeah what did you think of scarecrow when you watch wizard of

oz did you're so did you think he's a little foolish he certainly is obviously he's not scary in that same way. I'm okay with him. I'm, uh, he shows up in the second act of wicked. So he'll show up in the second movie. Sure. Uh, I'm curiously how grotesque they make it. Probably not that grotesque.

Probably not that grotesque, but a lot is hyper detailed as a wicked adaptation. As long as a scarecrow is also a song and dance man, you're comfortable. Correct. There's a little soft shoe. So if a day, the shoe there is. If a neighborhood dad popped up and did a little dance. and sang a little song, you might not have that problem. If he started doing like putting on the writs, I'd be fine.

Right. It would be a whole different story. But if he jumped at me when I was trying to get a mini box of dots, I would be upset. No, and that's what happened. And that's why this maze was so upsetting. Yeah. Not just the evil music of Slash.

Yeah. It took him back to, you know, potentially dropping candy. I loved the big scarecrows, but this maze is not so memorable to me. or big crows, I should say. But this maze was a little less memorable. And I did not end up going to the slash bar, which was up the stairs,

which I would like, they do this every year. It was the weekend bar. It's been the weekend bar a couple times. It's a slash bar. There's not a hell of a lot of theming up there. This is the problem too with the like little cove where they change it into like Chuckie's bar or whatever.

They just, they need to do a little bit more. Now, below the bar, I will say this, they did have a performer on stilts. I don't know if you saw this, Scott. They have a big stilt walking slash, but he has a skull instead of his regular face. Wow.

And he has skull hands. And you can get a picture where he'll take pictures with you. It's right by, they turn Jurassic patio into different things, which I think that might be upsetting to you because it's your favorite place. Yeah. And universal, you wish it was just Jurassic patio.

But this must be an amp up. for you, because with the presence of Slash, whose music is probably frequently featured at doing piano bars. Rock and roll royalty. I think the three songs that everybody knows yes, are often played

at Julian Panamars. You get to point up at him like you point up to your songs. We may have confirmation that Jelly Rolls is reopening. We may have some. I'll share this off mic. You cannot. You cannot let this get out. I was sent a message.

The internet rumor hunters or sent a message yesterday. I'm speaking. I'm speaking in hushed time. I was sent one of 88 keys in the mail yesterday. All the biggest jelly rolls fans with the truest hearts were sent one of the keys. And as long as we all bring them back on one special night, they'll reassemble both pianos. It was the A flat. Sir, a second jelly rolls location has hit Orlando.

So I don't know. I don't know anything about location. I just know there's some rumblings that perhaps jelly rolls will reopen. I hope it's, I guess, I mean, I can't open an I drive because there's a howl at the moon. So we're going to open somewhere else. Can't it? What if it tries to drive it out of the? Tafer's Tavern, I think, opens in two weeks in Orlando.

Do you see that? I think maybe the 15th of October. Ah, I drive a little simpler to work with. 100% I bet I drive. We could probably open. Although Taver's Tavern took a year, so who knows? I've lost my train of thought because I went off on too

We should talk about the fact that they have Slash's Hatcake Oh yes Slash's hat cake Which I want I would I should have gotten that Instead of the food item I got

I guess we're right here In that's in the story Yeah Scott this is where you're headed out Yeah Honestly in such good spirits That like if Then I was back upstairs

And I was almost like God do I like go on that Do I go in that little potter coaster Do I like even do one more maze? I really considered it, and I was like, I should choose sleep over this. But I think it's a testament to the nice time that we had that I was, like, thinking about still, still hitting it on the way out. It would be fun, and I've, people have done this in the past. I don't know if this is something we could do next year.

It would be very fun next year to get a group of, like, 12 of us to go and do a big fun night. Yeah. And then tell the wives, we're staying out until two, okay? You figure out kids stuff in that. The wives is I love to think of them. I love depersonalizing these three women. Yeah, yeah. Tell the wives.

Putting them in a pile, a big wife pile. Yeah. You forget who's who. Look, we're talking turkey here. We're doing a man talk, okay? And you know the wives are going to come back with, well, yes, the event runs until two, but it'll likely be two-thirty three by the time you get out of there and return home. You know what? How about those time sticklers?

You know, now that we talk about it, I'm sick of it. I'm sick of them knowing what, how long commutes take. These wives. These wives. Send the kids to grandma. Send the kids to the grandparents. And bring the, let's, let's bring the wives. Oh, yeah, let's bring the wives.

They could be part of the group, you know. We all love the wives. The hotels, party. Well, you change your tune. You love the wives. And the kids, the kids we don't like. In this scenario, no, I love the kids too. The kids want to come to, I mean, in a couple years the kids can come.

But I think, although, was it the Terrifier Maze we left? The first maze we turned around and there was an eight-year-old behind us, seven-year-old. Probably. Seven-year-old boy walking behind us. I think in the Terrifier Maze didn't look upset at all. Yeah, yeah. No stress. Some kids love horror movies.

Yeah, yeah. It's not going to be my oldest. It might be my youngest, he seems. He seems like he's that one. My kid is more scared now. She's more scared, but we'll see. She loves being scared in a safe way. Yeah, she's been watching the freaking news.

Wow, that's true. You know what I'm the most scared of is checking my phone and seeing if there's a message from one of these wives. Bigger jump scared than anything. How's your day going? Shut up. I don't know you an answer on that. We're staying out until two tonight, podcasting.

Enough questions. Just check in. I guess. It's just good, you know, talk like men on this show. He says me back and said, okay, wife number two. He considers me, his own wife, wife, wife number two out of three, I guess. He said it was chronological order of marriages. You were numbered by when you became a wife.

Wouldn't it be funny eight years in Mask Off? And I'm just the worst monster. I've been pretending otherwise for a long time. I've also noticed you were like, you were so much nicer to Jane, like regarded Jane so much hard. And then once she became a wife, your content just grew and grew.

You just thought of her as being this un, this nameless, you forgot her name. Do you even know who I'm talking about? No. Just wife number three to you. I don't know. But a big group, a big group next show would be fun. Wives or not.

Wives, non-wives. Whatever you are. any walk of life any walk of wife walk of wife uh so uh after scarecrow dad left and then the naughty boys got daddy scott left i was really i was really holding you back let's okay so let's all right so you let's set the bar there these here the premises daddy's gone the kids are going to while out now let's hear what the fuck you did okay let's hear naughty boys he wanted to okay jason have been talking about this cupcake all night. And at this point, at this point, and I didn't want to hear it.

I'm like, I'm a dad. I can't hear this garbage. He may have sensed it from me, but I was like, I don't really want to stand in this line and get anything to eat. So I was probably... This is why I snuck the beer in. I don't want to stand in any line. I was probably doing a little bit more of like, ah, this line's kind of long, isn't it?

Like, I don't know. And then you were like, no, I think you can skip the line just for the cupcake. I think there's a cupcake line. And I was like, I don't think there's a cupcake line. No, we, there was, it was confusing because there was a, the line we were in was mostly the line to get the pizza. And this is the Freddy's pizza. You wanted to get the Five Night of Freddy's Cupcake, which is also a character with the face. Oh yes, the cupcake keeps jumping out of you in the, startled us once or twice.

But they also sell the pizza, the Five Nights at Freddy's pizza. Ooh, and I'm sure the quality of that pizza is as high as contained. So we did weigh in the line, because I really. really wanted to try the cupcake. So at what point did it become clear that there is not a separate cupcake line? Well, it wasn't. We debated about the cupcake line. I was outside the restaurant with you guys and I'm like, I heard this premise and I was like, I got to go.

I can't get into this. I don't see, I don't see no cupcake line. There was not a cupcake line. It wasn't a cupcake line. I think you could go in and buy a Diet Coke and like check out as the line was for the Five Nights of Freddy's pizza in the pizza box. And it did move fast. move fast, but it was for everything in there. I can't imagine we're going to be allowed to skip the line.

There was not also a separate Diet Coke only line? This is what I mean. This was just an open place. Jason still sees phantom lines. I think he was just hoping we could skip the line and he was imagining a cupcake line. I will a cupcake. You imagine the world you want to live in. Right, right.

He wants to live in a world where there's cupcake lines everywhere. Listen, it's two wide doorway. One line is going in the one door. The other door is totally open, no line. It was confusing design-wise. Because it was also, when we got in there, there was just person yelling, I got the cupcakes over here and just had like a mobile bakery case. Like just if anyone wants cupcakes, they're over here.

Wait, so there was a separate woman walking around with cupcakes only? No, there was just a spot in the cap. She had a cooler. There was just a, it wasn't a cool. It was a big, like, whatever you call that, like there's trays on a big, like, wheels where you wheel it. Like, a bakery would have. She's saying, I have cupcakes here, but you can't go up to her and buy the cupcakes from her. You could.

You could. She wasn't outside. She was not outside. She was not outside. She was deep in the place. Yeah. Right. So, like, I just don't know.

Is she talking to her coworkers or to you? To customers. They were just like, because the cupcakes were not, like, displayed prominently. She's not a cupcake line herself. No, she was just giving them out. No. Hold on. I'm really confused now.

I'm confused, too, but to go ask your questions. I think I'll try to answer them. So how did you attain the cupcakes? We waited in the regular line. Okay. I decided to get a pizza. There was one, like, there was like a cup of pizzas left and he's like, I'll just get. The woman said, oh, the cupcakes are over here.

I have the cupcakes. Okay. So then we went over to her. She handed us a box and then we waited in the regular line to get, to pay for the cupcake and the pizza. Okay. That's how it happened. But there was never.

She is only who distributes the cupcake. She does not offer you a quicker way to get the company. I think a new batch had just arrived and they hadn't put them out yet because it was kind of crowded. Perhaps that's yes, I don't know. But no one ever came and said, oh, if you just want the cupcake, it's this. I don't know. Maybe no one, they just didn't have a staff member to explain it. But yes, there was no clear cupcake line.

And maybe Jason's right. Maybe you saw this. I think you kept saying I saw it on a video. Yeah, I saw a video. Well, I saw a video where people were trying to get cutwaters, because that's the thing. Simultaneously, I learned Universal was selling those canned cut water cocktails everywhere. And then I found the trend on TikTok where people are talking about their crazy stories of like the crazy shit they did after they had a few cut water cans. Like they, I have had them before and they do kind of fuck you up a little.

Cut water? Cut water. Those cans have like two or three shots in them. So people are drinking them like it was a can of soda. Why didn't I have a couple of these? You were driving. Oh, yeah, I was. I did have a Chucky cocktail, though.

I did have a playtime's over. And that was a fun little, like in a back, the back little courtyard bar. They'd set up bar. There was cute little Chucky simple animatronic shaking a coffee. Yeah, in like a little display case. A cocktail shaker, yeah. But anyway, so we go through the line.

We do everything. We pay, or Jason, I think, treated us. Thank you. Yeah, waters, one pizza. Two waters and a pizza. Was that list to show your full generosity? No, that was. I did come to the waters, too.

No, we were trying stuff and. We're trying waters. We were trying. We were trying Freddie food, and we were staying hydrated. very important very important so let's get it let's let's let's let's get into it uh we got about an hour 15 left water taste test who's was better did you trade did you try each other we'll get there we'll get there we'll get there uh so we couldn't find a place to sit so i just we just like parked we went over by some set dressing from the on the wall and jason universe barbecue and uh jason

ripped through his cupcake just demolished it in record time i don't know if it was less than minutes it felt like less than five minutes uh yeah because the icing was not like a heavy butter it was like a very light uh i don't know moose cream uh so yeah it didn't slow you down no the way the thicker frost it was actually very pleasant and it's an extra lubricated frosting that goes down faster yeah yeah so so i was like oh my god you're done already wow and i eat fast I'm a fast eater in general I had I think it was pepperoni pizza

They did have pepperoni pizza They have special pizza in Orlando That's like spaghetti or something Meatball pizza Don't have it out here Yeah No fun it's just cheese and pepperoni Comes in a fun box

At least And I had it and it's What's fun about the box It has the logo It's got the Freddy's logo That's fun That's pretty fun Like the pizza boxes

It's fun box Which we Which are in the house You see some scatter pizza boxes when you first walk in the house. Yeah, and I ate it and it was a fucking awful. Yeah, no, duh.

Guys, guys, how many years is it going to sit like? I didn't expect, look, I didn't expect this. You're telling me that the five nights at Freddy's Funbox pizza? But here's the thing. There are level, there's people say, there are levels to this.

If you had a city walk, like, I don't know pizza, it's not there anymore, but like, or no, it is. Citywalk pizza, you can have a, I forget. Used to be there, right? Yeah, I think so. Theme Park Pizza Hut is like, it's a bad pizza, but like it's still kind of fun and it's greasy or whatever. This was, it tasted like it wasn't even real tomato sauce. It's like the components of a pizza didn't even, like, it didn't feel like it was cooked or something.

It was so crazy bad. Mike took one bite and he went, this is bad. Wow. And then just 20 more bites to finish it. And then he reiterated that it was bad. I think I ate the pepperonies. I ate the pepperonies off of the top of it because those were fine. But the bread was bad.

The tomato sauce just tasted like water. Did we not just make a pilgrimage to Pizza Rizzo? Yes. It was much worse than Pizza Rizzo. Okay. Yeah. Much worse than pizza. Like, it was so bad.

I felt bad because the cupcake was delicious. Okay. Yeah. But not. I told you not to feel bad. Not structurally sound. It was part of the reason I was eating fast because it fell apart kind of quickly. It was a ticking time bomb.

It was ticking time bomb. And he needed. And when someone is eating it as aggressively as Jason was, trying to demolish. It was a big cupcake, too. Again, it was falling apart. It was very crumbed. It was kind of flaky. But it was good.

And the ticking time bomb went off when we went to the bathroom afterwards. and I discovered, oh, we had been eating in the dark. And when we got in the bathroom, I was like, what is all this black stuff on my pants? And quickly realized it was cupcake crumbs all over me. Full of cupcake crumbs, but delicious cupcake crumbs. And I had a very bad unsatisfying pizza. What is this? Is it crowship?

Is it Slash, is it crow shit with music by slash? This wouldn't be the last thing we stopped to eat. Oh, yeah. Okay. Which, so lessons were not even learned that evening. No, no, no. The next time was pretty good. Right before we left.

So I'm like, we could go home or we could stop and eat. And Jason wanted to stop and eat. And he ordered what sounded to me. Oh, you want to go chronologically. Okay, sorry, sorry. I want to do chronologically. because then we did the Wyatt Sixth house. We did the Wyatt Sixth house, yes.

That's a W.W.E. themed house. There's a character, a W.W.E. wrestler who has passed away named Bray Wyatt's, who had a character, Wyatt family. They were kind of backwoods, again, like, deliverancy, creepy guys. And then they've introduced, like, his brother and other wrestlers. He evolved into a character, half in the, and then half his character

The Fiend. And so the Fiend shows up in the house kind of like a monster mask like a Hollywood. The Fex House made all these masks and stuff for him. And then he also had a creepy fake children's show. There's a lot of lore.

There's a lot of lore. So eventually the puppets... How much do I need to hear? Well, I tried to go quick. The puppets from the children show eventually become monsters that people portray. And I think two of them are the tag team champion. And now, yeah, now there's just a group that's, like, sort of based on that lore.

One of them is Bray's brother and the rest. They, they, they, the Wyatt Six. And they're like, they got introduced on Raw, on WW Raw, like a year ago, maybe longer, where they basically did it where it looked like they murdered the entire production crew of the show. Yeah. So, like, they went backstage and, like, everyone was, like, laid out. And you're like, did they kill Triple H? Like, well, like, but then everybody's okay the next week.

And I'm like, I don't know. I guess they just beat them up. badly. I guess that was the idea, but it was a very horror movie-ish thing. And in Orlando, this maze, they recreate the actual backstage of a WW show. They don't do that out here, which

disappoints me greatly because I felt like that was, that's the superior position. That's the superior WWB-based maze. But, you know, they've wrestled former guest Johnny Gargano. So he's tangled with these people before

I don't think he's in the maze at all. but I mean, he's probably going in it. So, yeah, this version on the West Coast is more of the backwoodsy, creepy, like, vibe of that and then filled with the characters. And this was the house where I had a thought where I was like, I think a big scare is coming. What would happen if I close my eyes?

I'm sitting down. And when I opened them, I learned that was a bad idea because there was like a six-foot-tall rabbit with a hammer looking right at me. So that was scarier. So that was extra scary. I had just going along with scary. Yeah.

Scarrier than a lap full of black cupcake cranes. Yeah, scarier than a black. So I liked, I liked just the costumes. I like the costumes of seeing some of the characters, like the performers as the wrestlers. I didn't, I was let, I would say I was bummed out. I was bummed out. We didn't get to go backstage.

So that colored the whole experience for me, not getting to see some monitors to see some things that looked like the backstage of a temporary production setup for a touring wrestling show. Do you kind of wish that you'd just seen like a Johnny Gargano body just torn apart after what he said about jelly rolls? Oh, well, that would have been cathartic perhaps? Yeah, yeah, no, you wish you'd seen him get his just punishment for not enjoying one. It would have been nice.

I mean, he and Candace both took some big hit, what it was at, WrestleMania, I guess already. I guess Candace fell off. No, no, Somerslam, right? A ladder. Candace really took the fall off a ladder at SummerSlam. I didn't want to see that. I don't like that because we agree about jelly rolls. But Johnny... Only pain for jelly rolls. Johnny knocked her off.

Somebody pushed Johnny and knocked he knocked into the ladder that pushed his wife off. He has to live with that. So I guess I can at least take solace. That's like, that's a metaphor for what he did to her on this show. I believe he also got thrown off a ladder or threw some tables.

no he sure did so but she also she was showing oh she had a giant black and blue mark uh yes because she went through she fell on a ladder but that black and blue mark was actually from getting two amped at jelly rolls it wasn't the ladder months prior yeah yeah the blue was a lingering stain from blue curacao yeah yeah so anyway so i did like this maze but i was just like ah they got the better version of it yeah it's creepy and it with i know it means a lot to people who worked with him. It's crazy to see all this stuff. And he was big horror guys. Sure, yeah. Bray, you're talking about. Yeah, Bray, why?

Wyndham Rotunda. That was his real name, yeah. Wrestling legacy family, yep. Yeah. So we did that. We did. Well, we did. We went up at that point. We went up. And you demanded we take photos with the birds. I love the birds. The crow family.

There's a, this is an amatronic. There's a baby crow, and then there's still walker crows. Yes, and it's right in front of Fast and the Furious. So the photo op is Jason and a crow, and then the big Fast and Furious Hollywood Drift logo behind it. And then as we're doing it, the Stilt Walking Crow comes over and wants to get in the mix. Oh, hey. So we got a good photo of Jason, the Stillwalking Crow, and the baby crow. But then we figured out the crow is trying to do a bit with us because it must have been the mother crow.

So the crow was like trying to hassle us, I think. we couldn't speak English. Yeah, the crow like did chomped at me. The crow like had a jaw that could go like chan, chom, chomp. Right. And then after we were walking away, I'd go, probably the mother crow. We probably should have figured that out. It wasn't just that she wanted to get in the picture.

She wanted to defend her baby. Yeah, yeah. And I also, I will say, from my perspective, I could, the crow saw us taking the picture and ran up to my, ran up to get. in the picture, but I did not tell Mike the crow was coming. Mike could not see the crow until he turned his head and went, and that was kind of payback, because I think when Mike took over the wheelchair,

he was kind of pushing me more slowly to get scares and I think turn the chair towards some scares, maybe? Oh, I, you know, not consciously. No, not consciously. I might have just been tired, I don't know. Possibly. He was just off-roading. Yeah, I don't know.

So we got that. Then we did one more maze. We did Monstroos, Monstrose 3 that goes to Latin America. Yes. Not too rather than San Scott, but I think this was my favorite maze of the night. This maze is, I thought about doing it on the way out. I mean, sleep is good to choose. This maze was really creepy.

I mean, I don't know all of these urban legends super well. but like there was a few elements with there's some really big puppets in animatronics there was a giant like you're not a puppet or a eating a scare after this this and then this happens after the eating is that this this giant thing is just clearly eating a child wow yeah really scary like right out of his bed that's the second eating the child well yes and then there's a performer that's like a human performer that is like stuck in the mouth of a puppet or whatever thing, screaming. So, like, I would say this had the most, like, disturbing imagery that stuck with me.

But also, technically impressive. Yeah. A nerving thing about this, halfway through the maze, you go outside. Like, they built the facade of a house and the, you see, like, the stars. Like, there's no roof. Yeah. I mean, look, they've done that at Fright Fest, too. So it's not such an innovative thing.

Well, I wasn't expected. And there are, there are bodies in the water. There's a scare actor menacing you. And then when you go in the house, that same scare actor like runs around the side and starts banging on the windows. Yeah. So this one, yes.

This one, if you wanted to be not just grossed out, but disturbed, I think this was the winner as far as imagery is concerned. I should have done it. So, I mean, it's still that we could all go back. But really, I guess, you know, to close out the night, Jason wanted to end with a big bang. Okay. You know?

So what he wanted to do instead of his go home. In his digestive system? That's right. He decided that he wanted to stop and order the Fallout branded loaded cram fries. Crispy, chill, chili glazed spam served over pub fries. So, wait, cram is chili spam? I guess so. I think cram is something to do with fallout.

Cram is something like, okay, cram is not a food word. It is not, but it is jelly glaze spam. Oh, yes. Oh, wait, it is. Yeah, oh, it's food in fall. Okay, okay, cram. And this is another time when you were saying you want to do this. And I was happy to do whatever you want to do.

But there was probably like, oh, you sure you want to do that? Do we need to stop and do this? He was humoring me because I was hungry for real food because I'd only really eaten a cup. But then you said, if you were hungry for real food, you should have left Universal Studios Hollywood. Then you told me, though, what you want, like, you know what I guess what it would be? If you were like, oh, when you get like a cheeseburger, I'd be like, we could stop at McDonald's or something. Like, but when you said what you wanted, I go, that sounds gross to me. So I guess we should stop and have it.

Well, I got a shout out, Rachel Chapman, who used to host the Inside Disney Vault podcast, writes for Elite Daily now. And she had a roundup of hard night's food. And I'm like, I think I got to eat those spam fries. The spam. Now, I am guilty of. Never trying spam, but thinking spam is gross. Spam to me is gross. And you feel guilty about this.

Well, you know, I sometimes people say this about things I eat and I don't want to be the same way necessarily. But I do feel I have a blockage about spam. So perhaps that's my problem. I'm almost shocked that there's anything either of you have a blockage about. I mean, it's basically canned ham. I know it's slice of it. Sometimes you say it as an add-on for. Sure, I'm not saying it's so rare.

Ramen or rice dishes, spam musibi. I'm sure there's one of those forms I would like to sit, you know, the right. It's possible, yes. So, yeah, it was pretty good. I mean, the spam, the chili spam just kind of had a little tank, kind of melted in the mouth. Wait a minute. After all that, what the story was is it was pretty good. It was pretty good.

There's a lot of ways to do it in order. We want to do it in order. We have to make sure we do it an order. Make sure that it's the finale of the episode. He wanted to do an order. I wanted to do it in the other food section. Well, I... So you in the back of your head, you're like, you know there's no story here.

I knew there's no story. I knew it's funny, though, that it's like midnight and we're both tired, but Jason's like, we got to get those fries. Well, okay, here. It was either the fries or a Tostito, salsa verde, a Burya walking taco. These are some, I think that the names of food are only, it's, you're only meant to have so many words in the name of an item. That was far too many words to be in any dish.

Imagine a small bag of tortilla chips covered in stewed beef. And I was like, I think that will sit worse with me than the spam from. That looks awful, Mike. Jesus. I thought it looked awful too. Did you try any? No, I didn't try it. No, we didn't.

But that is a low-key, like, great chip. I always forget about salsa verde Tostitos. That restaurant was also what they turned into Quarks Bar. And I just think, I mean, every restaurant at Universal is all. awful. Every, everyone puts out just uneatable food. Now, is that a new opinion? No, no, no. It's not. Okay, so you had that opinion before you ate the five nights at Freddy's pizza. I wanted to see how it was.

Scott, perhaps. You were a, this is what's so strange to me. Well, I'm talking about the upper lot. I'm talking about the upper lot. Oh, you're talking about that right. Okay. I'm talking about the lower lot. The food's excellent on the lower lot. I'm not saying it's excellent. I'm not saying it's excellent. I think it's about the air quality up in the low of the upper lot. I'm just saying. get low and now it gets to simmer and those flavors they can the pizza was a rare lapse in lower lot

food excellence not what I'm saying I'm saying I like hey Scott would if I were tell you the fries also had cheese and crispy onions like you'd put on a green bean casserole I would say if that was done by a chef then great but what are we doing it was good it was like I wanted

some stick to my gut food okay it was good and I don't think that's something I ever want Stick to my gut food? I don't think I understand this desire. Comfort food. That's all. Isn't it a mean potato?

That word makes sense to me. Comfort. I like the idea. Stick to your gut. Sure. Wait a minute. These are different premises. It's a synonym.

Jason. Comfort sounds great. I love comfort. I want comfort. I want meat and potatoes food. I do not want food that sticks to my gut. It's a phrase. It's a phrase.

It's a phrase in the way. I don't know. It's like when Mike. Sticks to your ribs I've heard, I think. To your ribs. Yeah. It's like when Mike in. He exhales portilloes, or I just inhale a cheese steak.

Like, goes down like water. That's what he always used to say. His Philly ribs and my Chicago ribs absorb those two different things because of the locality. We see. Stick it all. I just get it all stuck right on there. I see you. Like, I see you.

Who is that too? Me or Mike? To Mike, because we're talking about stick to ribs food. But don't you think, I mean, here, I, here's what. If, I guess I lost. control of the narrative because once we I was like, well, we're closing with Jason's Fry's story, then I think I

was like, well, the big reveal though is that he loved it no problem. Rarely does that happen with him in the different unique foods. It always is well, I have a tummy ache. Right. And then I brought half home for Jane. She took it and she has a tummyache too. And then that

generally the story. Or she got a tummyache just from thinking about what Jason. But thinking about the spam that he ate. But I'm saying I'm saying the big reveal is he loved it. I love it. What a triumphant. All right. That's what I was trying to, we were building to a flip of the expectations.

The expectation was, oh my God, Jason's going to, like, shit his brains out the next day or whatever, because he's always got tummy problems with you. No, Horanice was a major success. He loved the fries and the bam. Look, I was exhausted the next day. It was a lot of stimuli. It was a lot of activity. It was a lot of stuff.

But Mike was so kind. Mike really humored me with fries. Guys, I don't need that much credit. Humor. He humored me with waiting that out as also audio-wise that was a little overwhelming because the chainsawed clowns were just everywhere. Jason's eating these fries and whirr-whir-12-15. I am certainly tired at this point.

I wish I wasn't, but I was like, Tyler. Right after the fries, I turned to Mike and was like, I would like to look at souvenirs. Oh, yeah, we did. We did go to souvenirs. I wanted to see if I could buy Arthur, Clown's little hat. Oh, yeah, I forgot about this. And they weren't selling it.

It was most, I mean, Terrifier 3 takes place at Christmas time. He blows up a Santa meat and greet. But it, so they were selling a lot of the Christmas terrifier stuff. I bought the T-shirt. I bought the regular T-shirt because I wanted a souvenir to commemorate overcoming my fears. And Mike's response was, you'll probably find that for half off. at the hip-off store and I'm like where's your sense of fun where's your sense of sentimentality that is his sense of fun getting deals is his sense of fun normally he would be on board with that but he just was feeling like very triumphant I guess and I didn't really recognize I was also annual pass discounts worked everywhere at horror nights so yeah I got food discount I got the t-shirt discount he overcame his fears he was out and about having fun with his friends he had cram fries sticking to his gut It couldn't have gone better for Jason.

I just ordered some cram fries to go and we're going to go pick it up for you on the way home. Oh, fun. Yeah, I could eat some cram fries right now. I got to try that Buryo Walking Doggo. That might fuck me up. That's a lot of grease. I've placed a pickup order at horror nights. We'll go get it on the way home.

So if you're keeping score on the show, cassidia explosion salad thumbs down, loaded fallout cram fries. uh thumbs up thumbs up so yeah we didn't like I said we skipped a Jason universe in the fall at house

didn't do the terror tram or the purge so it's done to look forward to next year yeah I don't know I'm gonna do some haunt maybe again I don't know I might do a scary form I might do horror nights not that I have to cover no one cares that much about what we say in regards to some of it

but I'm saying I may end up doing some of these But, yeah, we'll do more next year. My instinct immediately, as we were going to the car, I was just thinking, do we have to come back to do the stuff we didn't? Like that theme park brain, that disease, I just immediately kicked in. Well, we could go the wives together and go this year. Now you're making an extra effort to include the wives after how off-putting that was at the beginning. It's just in the way you say it when you're talking about the wives.

I know at least one. would not like this I think probably too and I think they I think we can I think they all would not like being referred to as the wives Well we'll find out

As for me Look I think I left at the right time I don't think I'm gonna go back But I and I don't know look It's it's a strong statement If we're evaluating these things to say Loves haunts And it's been the whole thing

Is landing at Mike loves haunts I will at least say I like haunts I think I have not should up to like this demystified a lot of it for me I don't know if I'm going to overcome I don't think it's the fear

as much as just kind of a rational thought about my own taste I don't think I'm going to revisit personally the issue of cram fries but there are at least we have proven that there are some things that you guys talk up or that you Mike talked to and you know as I said

everything you said over the years proved completely correct thank you I got the adrenaline I got through it I started wanting more I was happy to to overcome and uh and you know and mainly the three of us hanging out actually going to doing something yeah that's something now that i'll notch up to the love category wow i think i think they're selling the pizza and the big cupcake during the day so if you find yourself up there well it's you know it's really a whole different situation during the day i mean it was probably

like an issue with the night preparation and there's stress and you know the people making her tired but during the day i bet that piece is very well done i i i'm just saying i think your boy would love if you split that cupcake and half you can share that cupcake. Definitely worth it to go up and down and come back to get it. Or you could go to any of the number of cupcakes stores in Burbank.

I would say anywhere else to get a cupcake Jason, would you say that you either like or love haunts now? What do you think? I, well, I'm afraid if I say love, I'm stealing. I already stole your intro. You're being too

polite to this episode. Do not be that polite. Oh, I will say love and next year I want to do knots or fright fast. Wow. Okay. There we go. And I'll swear it. Swear at me. I would say love, you motherfucker. Okay. I would say love. Will you say to him, I love you motherfucker? That's what I want to hear. You were really close to that. I do love you, motherfoss. Hey, man, you know what? All right, I love you motherfucker. And it's been another great hauntcast, The Fright. And what? What is. What? What a nice way to close it out. You survived for the first podcast, the Friday of the year.

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