Podcast: The Ride - Mike's Trip to Lagoon with Dave Christenson

Episode Date: August 14, 2026

Mike’s recent trip to Salt Lake City’s Lagoon amusement park was great, albeit with a little confusion. So the PTR boys brought in a guy who grew up there, Mark David Christenson, to help guide them through some of Lagoon’s weirdness. Can he answer all their questions?"SpeeDee Round" episode is up at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride⁠See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Paragraphs describing the refurbished hair of haunted dolls. And a firsthand account of Mike Carlson's trip to Salt Lake City's lagoon with help from former Salt Lake local Dave Christensen. That's a lot of stuff on today's podcast, The Ride. Welcome to Podcast the Ride, a theme park podcast hosted by three men who are only interested in a historical 140-year-old landmark if it has a tilt-a-whirl inside. My name is Mike Carlson, joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. So there was a tilt-a-wirl? There sure was, yeah. Oh, boy.

Yeah, it's very exciting. Scott Gierner's here. Yeah, a lot of those words you said were boring. A monumental. I was tuned out for a lot of them. He said tilt-the-wirl. I'm very interested. Right.

Yeah. Tiltow world is one of the best, like, shitty, carney-type rides, I feel like you can get. I feel like this has come up over the year that I feel like you have a particularly high interest in Tilta World's. I have a high interest in Tiltoworlds. And I've also, that's the ride I was thrown up on when I was in sixth grade. So it's also like burned in my brain as kind of a, is a scary ride, I guess. Oh, sure. And something to conquer and have a better memory on.

Right. And I was, I was crammed in there. It was like five of us. I think it was five. Yeah. five of us and there was like a girl I kind of liked in the car as well and then I got thrown up on by a guy next to me so my my clothes were soaked in puke and it was like a specific like elementary school graduation shirt that was like hand drawn that said like 96 on it and it was

just I never wore it again I just couldn't maybe this is a little I just throw out entirely I think we didn't throw it out but I think it just like sat in there and I was like I can't it felt like the ghost of the puke was haunting I guess that's the thing that's the thing that's the thing with me in like wearing old clothes or something sometimes I'm worried about the ghost well this I was worried about the ghost of the vomit or something and I just didn't wear that shirt ever again I like that for

our guest it's just like let's just plow past that I don't wear old clothes because of ghosts so on top of that as you know I don't wear a little ghost movie because I believe old ghosts of ghost I mean if he has a let's see if he has a question his name is Dave Christensen he's an actor and an improviser but does he have a question does he know what I'm talking about

I like the intro format of his name is well I just I want to make sure we bring him in and he has a name and his name is a very normal way. You better have a question. But more importantly does he have a question? Question for me.

I mean I would say every my question is just as every intro this much of an emotional roller coaster from really excited about the Turtile Tiltililwil why the hell can I not find that in my mouth. Then it went from that

to this is boring to an emotion, very sad kind of emotional background. They try to pack a lot in. We try to like, you know, you hook them. Like the, you know, the Netflix show has to be really exciting in the first 30 seconds, kind of the sizzle reel to show you the ups and desks. Yeah, we try to jamming a lot at the top. The people that like podcasts.

Yes. The people that like podcasts, right, enjoy the whiplash. The people who don't or have turned it off is probably like, oh, they're talking about the haunted mansion. That's so nice. Oh, my God. Why are they talking about Jason's vast deference? so much. Oh my God. All right. They're back

to talking about Honda Mansion. Maybe it's going to be fine. Oh, no. They're back to the Vastephyrins. Like, oh, my God. Like, that's the whiplash you will get from podcast the ride. Or they just skipped. They hit 15 seconds ahead too many times. And they're like, I don't feel like going back to you, the song and the joke.

I just got past the intro. I just, I don't feel like. That happens? Yeah, sure. Is that what you do for other podcasts? Do you sometimes too much 15 seconds? I skip ahead and then I go back and listen to it. I make sure. Why do you that?

Seems inefficient. Are you like one of those book readers, but you listen to the end of a podcast first? Then I go back. No, no. I mean, like at the beginning, if there's ads, I skip them, and then I go back to the song and the intro. Oh, so you can tap your toe, as we all do. Every podcast has a great theme song that you want to hear hundreds and thousands of times. Not a good theme song unless you can tap that toe.

It doesn't have a rhythm. Then what the fuck is the song? I am really enjoying using the app PocketCast recently, but they're ahead. Jump Ahead is 45 seconds and jump back is 15. That's not customizable. And get, I don't know. They should make that customizable.

It might be. It might only be for premium. Oh. Well, that's what they're paying for that. I'm not paying for that. So you recommend PocketCast, but you do not recommend PocketCast premium. Yeah, I haven't really explored it. The only time I got a pop.

Just due to lack of experience. pop up for it was like, oh, you want to see a transcript? Like, that's on premium. But transcripts are auto-generated free on Apple podcasts. Yeah, that's right. Who's really looking at a transcript on a podcast? What sick I was doing that right now? It's a good question.

If you have to, I'm trying to think when I've ever used, if you, if you're like, if you're just like scanning, if you just want, know that there's, like, if you're looking for one specific reference, I mean, I check all my friends' podcasts to see if they mention me. Yeah, yeah. The only reason I'm putting on a Do Boys or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Google Alert version of the transcript tracker or something. Like, there has to be that.

I'm sure somebody can program that. I hate to talk about, go further on another podcast. But Doe Boys. Oh, go ahead. I did get mentioned on that, and it was like one of the saddest things ever because it was shit talk. And somebody's like, you got mentioned, and I went back and listened and Drew Tarver fully dog shit on me. Why? And he was not going to mention my name.

Really? And Mitch and Nick forced it to say my name. And I was like, oh. And I knew exactly what it said. It was all about going to a party at their friend, our friend Gilly's house. And it was like a party where they're all playing Luigi's Haunted Mansion. And I didn't grow up that, like that game.

So I didn't, I was new to it. And I got put on a controller and I was bad. And I could tell everybody in the room was like, fuck this guy. He's bad at the game. It was, it was like palpable. how much I was getting hate. That's a nightmare if you're a 12 year old or whatever, let alone today.

It felt like I was a kiddie, and I eventually played it twice or maybe at most three times, like three runs of it. And I was like, I have to get out of this room. And I was like, okay, I'll just try to enjoy the party. And then I laughed because I was like, that sucked. And then it came up like a year later on the fucking podcast. And I got called out. And now again. But at least you've owned it.

Yeah. And you made everyone else in the story sound like a real villain. At the time when I had, yes. And I retweeted and tagged Tarb and I was like, well, at least I knew why no one liked me that night. I heard it was because you're just a singular person, and so that just means you're the other one, and he prefers the other two. Wow. That went over my head. And big old stroll.

Jason's going to take you on a big old stroll. I don't know why I'm hitting myself in the head because of that with my hands. I love when Mike makes the spit take. I love how he could make the spit take. noise with a very tenuous cumbersome joke. And you'll see the biggest past to a joke ever. I can't wait for the transcript for me to go back and try to figure that act. How will it record Mike slaps himself in the face on the transcript?

You were like you were making sure you weren't dreaming this? Was that the idea? I just wanted to make sure. All right. Is reality real? Yeah. I still don't know. It'll say Scott makes another noise because this transcript software confuses you as well.

Oh, yeah, like a lot of listeners. Like some listeners, yeah. Yeah, people attribute. You still see it. Let's both slap ourselves so that it will recognize who slaps how and with what timber. Yeah, the technology should know whose skin is being hit. And me. That's what I think.

That's Scott's slap. We need the AI to learn. Now, Dave, please slap yourself in the face. Very good. Dave's slap. It's your podcast, the right, hazing. Jason did a gentle slap, but you can hear it. You can pick it up.

I don't want him to hurt himself. and then I'll just do mine here Nobody's really Like a clunk Nobys really jackassing it here I didn't like mine That's better I think Because we have sort of beard

So we go too high I think Yeah Yeah because you don't want to hit The cheek but our cheeks Are covered by beard So I just had Instinctually went higher than the beard And then it was just a bad hit

It was like I just hit myself Yeah That's like slapping yourself With like a coat on Yeah It was too much cushion I went I went too far back

So I almost boxed my ear Oh my Oh my God. Jason is Jason has cauliflower ear from this fit. We have taken him to the hospital. Oh, was he just fighting in the UFC? Is he? The match of Sheridan versus Sheridan.

Oh, this is the third time we've had someone from the UFC gym on Lancashom come in here today. That must be what you're from, sir. We wish it was UFC. We get derailed by a lot of, what were you, what was Dave supposed to do at the beginning? Was it some, was it a response about? Did he understand that I wouldn't wear old clothes because I was. I feel like there's ghosts haunting them. I just want to know if he understood that from a concert.

I don't know why you're doing that to yourself. Sure, but you understand the concept. What point does clothes become haunted? Do you mean you just won't, you don't like to thrift? Yeah, you have to always work brand new clothes for yourself. Generally, yeah, yeah.

But there's not a piece of clothing other than this puke incident. Yeah. Do you have a piece of clothing you're like, I can't wear that anymore because it's haunted now, even by a past version of yourself? You've always been good at refreshing your closet. that do not wear your own older clothes because you're afraid of the ghosts.

I wouldn't say I'm not afraid of the ghosts of my clothes. Would you say you're not afraid of no ghosts? Or you ain't afraid of no ghosts? I would say I ain't afraid of no ghosts when it comes to my clothes. So yeah, I don't know. As far as like, you know, like, oh, this is when I was 22 and I really didn't know who I was yet.

Like that's not. I'm not too worried about that. Although I don't think I have any clothes from when I was 22. I don't think I'm wearing anything that old. Jason has just said that you're very good at refreshing your closet. He's called me a clothes horse before. A close horse?

Yep. Really? What's the way to explain that? Yeah. Isn't that an old time he's saying? Like a clothes enthusiast. Yeah, it's not a horse wearing clothes. But you say horse?

It's like somebody who has a lot of clothes or likes to get a lot of clothes. Okay, yeah, yeah. Well, no, it seems, no. I mean, as I think about it over the years, yeah, I guess I've, like, it seems like every two years or so you get a new smashing pumpkins t-shirt. Yeah, of course. The clothes horse here. You don't want it.

Well, because his old one is from winning with 22. Yeah, you know, you can't get it. Yeah, you need an updated version of Billy's face to make sure it's current. You need Siamese Dream and you need Siamese Dream re-release and then Siamese dream all in front-to-back tour shirt. Alternate, yeah, versions where there's different Pia, when Melissa Off, DeMarr was in the band after the Machina record. You need all these different versions, of course. You know, you would look weird if you didn't have that. You were a real fan.

I'm a close horse. What you need. Nay, I'm a close horse. As a clothes horse Yeah, yeah Did you ever at one point Thrift and get haunted With the clothes you were wearing?

Oh, he has an experience that did it Yeah No No, I don't think so I don't think I ever I don't think I ever thrifted The only time I've thrifted Is for like comedy shows and stuff for

Okay Oh, does that bother you to wear Yeah For some reason I'm okay with that You're playing Inspector Gadget in a sketch Which would be a lot of fun for everyone I bought I play Barbie

Inspector Gadgett I play Barbie at a turn of of Nerds at UCB and I bought a giant like would look like a giant prom dress basically and that was like I've never really that's a tough size did fine for you it was a giant dress yes so I have no problem I guess when comedy is on the line when the laughs are at stake I don't have a problem putting the clothes on even if there's ghosts in them I do my mission I get the laughs then I take the clothes and then you rip them off backstage if there's even just a sink in a little UCB bathroom You just like splash water everywhere.

Try to turn that into a shower as best as you can. Yes, of course. Try not to knock over any drums of industrial grade cooking grease. Yes, which are there. Which are ever been backstage in the garbage hallway. I assume they're still there. They haven't asked me to perform in many years, Dave. You might know better than me.

I've gone there to watch my wife perform. Okay. And yes, they're still there. Okay, great. You've bumped into them and been blinded. I've had a conversation with the grease. They're for birds. They're from the restaurant.

near their birds, right? Yes. They would have to be. Yes, it has to be birds. I don't know what else. They're coming from UCB. They have like a grease front or something. They're coming from Van Lewin.

They're coming from the upscale ice cream. That would be the worst to find out. You're like, why is there so much grease coming away from the ice cream? Well, they take it out. Clearly. Clearly. But like, yeah. Problematic.

So today we are going to be talking about Lagoon, the amusement park in Salt Lake city. It's been there 140 years. And we're talking about it primarily because I went. I went to this place. Yes. We did an episode years ago with Stephen Ray Morris. Yes. But that was, he grew up with it.

We were hearing his experiences. But now you've unlocked a lot of stuff, which is definitely something that happens. We try to cover topics as best as we can from, you know, from research and piecing together. But when you get on the ground, you start doing some stuff in person. Oh, yeah. You're going to find a lot of stuff that you won't find just from looking at articles. Right. And Dave is here because Dave grew up going to Lagoon.

Yeah, it's a big part of my childhood. I'm interested. I grew up in Sandy City, which is a suburb of Salt Lake. Oh, okay. And Lagoon was from the get-go. Like, you know, you've been there and maybe the listeners remember there's a western, like, village, like a western town that they would do performances like stunt performances. I don't, I remember as a child being bored of that. I don't know why.

Like as an adult now, I'd be like, that'd be pretty cool to watch, but as a kid, I didn't care. You have to sit for more than 10 minutes. Yeah. We have an old Western photo, though, that I'm a baby in. Oh, wow. From Lagoon, that my well, and you get all dressed up, and it's in sepia tone and all that.

Yeah, they still have that. We should have done it, but they do have that still in the Old West Town. It's the old West photo. Were you an old West baby, or were you like a bandit, baby. Abandoned? Like a baby with a, you know,

striped black and white striped shirt and like domino mask. Oh, abandoned. That would have been great. I wish. Abandoned. Yeah, I thought abandoned.

Oh. Yeah, I wasn't in the photo. I was abandoned. You were abandoned as a child at Lagoon? No, I had like the, the, I looked like a, like, at the time I would have just had been said like,

I'm a little girl. Like, I was in like a bonnet, white bonnet and like almost like, what, a baby night shirt? shirt it looks like. We're extremely gender neutral in that era in the 1800s. Yeah, yeah, everybody's in there. Yeah, all my, although yeah, all the

photos of like my grandfather, great grandfather as bay, it's all like, it's all gowns. Yes. That was the style then. Right, so do you still have, do you know where it is or do you have a done? Oh, I could get one of my family members to share it if you want me to set it. You want, yeah. Yeah, my dad looking like a sheriff and all that. That's fun.

He looked like a, he looked like a good sheriff. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, except he was arresting a baby. It wasn't a Bandit. The baby was not a very good baby. You were very colicky and there were concerned that it would spread. Oh my God.

The colic spreads? Airborne. I don't know. Wear masks. If you're going to be around a bunch of babies, wear masks because they got airborne colic. You know,

tent revivalism. Ideas just spread back then, you know. Ideas was spread. Oh, you're saying this is an old time theory. It was like the original memetic, you know. Ideas. It's pretty.

There is a lot of like little museumish stuff here too, which I really enjoyed, especially. I probably would have thought it was boring as a kid, but as an older man, I very much enjoyed it and wish I spent more time there. We were on a road trip, my family, to my cousin's wedding in Montana, and I was doing the Google Maps. I was like, is there a theme park on the way. And Salt Lake City is right on the path from Burbank to Montana. So we stopped there. Now, I made a mistake. We should have been there all day.

we ended up only being there for like six or seven hours because there was plenty of other stuff to be done and we we loved by the way we loved it we were really enjoying it and it would have been nice to do the full day I don't think you needed two necessarily but I wouldn't have minded hanging out there for two days yeah you could definitely do a lot

because like it was I'm very curious how crowded was it when you went I mean nothing weight wise was very bad but it seemed like there was a good amount of people there so it wasn't like I mean it felt like nothing was more than 10 minutes to wait

if that so easy so that's so that's nice too but yeah it's a mix so it's been there for 140 years and it feels like a mix of new stuff and like stuff that's been there for 140 years

and we've talked about this before on the show a lot of music acts played here including the Beach Boys as they were that's that was what I latched on to in the previous episodes that they referenced it in a song

their song Salt Lake City Salt Lake City. Yeah. All the kids are digging the lagoon now, I believe. Yeah. That's the lyric. Close and rides. Do you know that because of being from there?

Is that song? Because that's not like a big Beach Boys song, really. That's funny you said that because when you guys asked me to come today, I played it. We looked it up and we played it in the car. Me and my wife on our drive home from the gym. Oh, wow. And I was like, I don't have a memory of this, but I have a memory of it existing. Oh, okay.

But so it felt like a first time listened, but I was like, I probably heard it. I just knew I had known about it. I have any reference of such a local thing by a big band, even if it's not a big song. Can I be honest, though? Listening to the song, it was really funny and charming that my city,

you know, that I was raised that was referenced. But how cool pet sounds is and how cool pet sounds is revered, listening to them having made this song about Salt Lake, it brought them down a little bit in my book. I was like, all these guys are kind of lame. Well, you know what's crazy?

They did that. Like probably, they probably recorded that like less than a year before PetSounds. That was like they were like really close to doing it. So they went from, they went from lame to not lame in rapid fire. Super Sonic speed. They were. It sounds like a promote. It sounds like they were hired by Salt Lake to do a promotional like jingle.

Well, what was a pandering salt like? They had a lot of fans there, I believe I read. Yeah. They had a lot of fans of Salt Lake. So they were like, let's write one to like really endear ourselves. Oh, since a lot of the songs are about the, about the coasts. We got plenty of California songs But like yeah

We got nothing to juice up the Utah people The lyric is literally like Salt Lake we're coming soon It's like it's an ad for Oh it's a threat Salt Lake City And I had a 4th of July where I went With my parents to Provo

I think at the BYUU Stadium Where the Cougars played And saw Beach Boys play For that 4th of July And Ramos was on drums Or stadium I don't know who that is. And John Stamos.

John Stamos was on drugs. Oh, sure. Yeah. What era we talk? Could you fall apart the year? That had to be in the 90s because I was very, I was like 12, 10 or 12 where I was like, oh, I'm going to be dragged around to all my things that my parents are doing with their adult friends.

Uh-huh. And I'm the youngest of five. So it was like. Oh, so many vacations where I was stuck with parents. And I look back and I'm like, oh, I wish I was like had a friend that came along or something. But I never was back. kid. Yeah.

What do you recall? Did you, did you enjoy the music and maybe more importantly, did you enjoy the clothes that the beach boys that the adult beach boys were wearing in the 1990s?

My memory is, it sounds like I have, I'm going to make this sound like I have a horrible childhood, but I don't. I just remember being bored. Sure. Like, yes.

Not into the beach boys. Didn't really understand them. Hadn't listen to pet sounds or cared to listen to them. Enambered, no. I think I, I think everything I'm talking about,

I'm more into now. Like, I like a Hawaiian short. Oh, what? A Hawaiian shirt. And an older age now. Back then, I probably thought it was a little lame and corny. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, you got age into it. Yeah, for sure. For sure. And the John Samo's thing was probably like a weird trivia thing. Like, oh, it's a guy from Full House. And that was about it. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah. He's now, he's now become just due to one of the, one of the senior beach boys quitting. He is now the second most senior beach boy in the lineup. That's so wise. He counts the second most. And I'm starting to

How can they call themselves the Beach Boys? No, that's a whole other Yeah, a lot of bands But I am starting to fear in this summer At this moment And I hate to do a PTA-R curse thing But I'm starting to fear that Stamos Is gonna be number one soon

Well, he had a kid, I know they canceled a couple gigs They canceled a lot of gigs And the recent Mike Love videos have been extremely dismaying You mean Stamos will be the most senior member That's not that Stamos will be the number one first to die. No, no, no. I'm saying yes. Yeah, yeah, he will rise to number one.

He'll be the only remaining Beach Boy. Yeah. They might have to, Mike Love is sitting some shows out, and I think they are drafting Frankie Valley in to get someone a little more beautiful. Oh, yeah. Picture, Pelt. I still think, because Scott's never seen them with his Mike Love

version, and I said, I think, two years ago now that if they're still playing in 10 years, he has to go. Wow. So I think you got eight years. Mike has to hang on for eight years. Oh, that's all I forget. Right?

Or is it seven? Oh, boy. I don't know. I'm not sure. It might have been 2023. So it might have been. I don't know if we're hanging on for the eight months. I don't know.

Getting worried. You'll always be surprised, you know. If Stamos becomes a front man, maybe he'll be able to afford the rest of the Disney land sign. Because he has the big, he has one of the big D's. Poor guy. He had to piecemeal and he had to buy him letter by letter someday.

He'd keep dreaming. He's a spy. There's a list of all the artists over the years who have played, and it goes back so far. I don't know if it's a comprehensive list, but it's like in 1900, Olson's orchestra played. In 1926.

Jason, what's your favorite Olson's orchestra? Well, all of these are things. Actually sing it for us. 1926, Rosals' Rosal's saxophone band, 1947, Tony Pester. Do we think that's all saxophones? Yeah, probably.

I think so. No percussion. just like 20 saxophones. Very possible. If only, it's a drummer, but he doesn't use drumsticks, he uses saxophones.

1948, Shep Fields and his orchestra. And then you start getting the things you've heard of. Spike Jones, Ella Fitzgerald, like crazy stuff. And then, yeah, Beach Boys,

I believe Rolling Stones, I believe Jimmy Hendrix. It's pretty Everly Brothers. So it's like a crazy lineup. And then in 1990, and I forget if we mentioned this on our old episode, the Ninja Turtles. Oh, this one.

This was one of the stops on the coming out of our shells tour. Can't say I was there. That's sad. It is sad. Yeah, you should have been there. Because we're all about, yeah, did you even know they were touring? They were doing music now? I think I remember, because I was a huge fan of the Ninja Turtles, the cartoon.

And then I remember the excitement of the first movie and the second. But I remember those advertisements for those tours and seeing them. But it was a thing where I would just dream of like, well, I wish my parents would take me. They were never going to take it. It was out of their price range. and there was just like a waste of money. Yeah. I've said in the show before

that Steve Dahl got us tickets to the Turtles Tour. I've said that, right? Is that the Chicago DJ? I forget. Yeah, the disco demolition? That's right. Wow.

Why did that, did you call in? He was friendly with my father. Wow. Yeah. Really? Yeah. They wrote a script together. No, that doesn't sound familiar.

It's pulled out of the violin cabinet. Don't think I knew. There was a. That sounds like a to be original to me all right. Yeah, and that's why we went to, we got free tickets to turtles. Wow. Yeah, that's a little piece of,

it's pretty rare people. New Mike lore has dropped. Bring that script around. Let's do a little stage reading. So, yeah, the turtles played there. Hendrix is pretty crazy. It's crazy, yeah. The Who in some like that's too.

Yeah, the Who? Yeah, that's pretty big. You look up and down, yeah, they definitely like, it doesn't see, it seems like it falls off in the 80s, maybe. I don't know, There's still the artists that play there, but they're not like booking big acts. They're not doing any to the beat, really.

I'm also seeing that the doors were very offensive to the Utah audience. Oh, something we talked about before. Maybe. You found, forgive me, I'm scanning the article real time, but Jim Morrison yelling, what's the matter? You all dead out there?

What did you come here for anyway? Well, the answer is, Shep, uh, Shep Shepman and his saxophone orchestra. Yeah, they wanted the old time, the old time music. They wanted that, the classic lagoon lineups. I think we did, yeah, we did, I think we, on that episode, we talked about how Sam the Sham and the Faro's played, who did Woolly Bully, of course. But, you know, Dave knows.

Strawberry alarm clock, Frank Zappa played, Jefferson Airplane, Johnny Cash played. I'm sorry, I'm stuck on the doors. I just found one more thing. This article, there's a quote in this. I'm like, are you quoting yourself? Is this? Are you, who said this? The writer is saying the doors only opened up, quote, doors of obscenity.

But what's the quote? I don't think that's something. All right. Did Jim Morrison say, time to open up now. Where are the doors? Time to open up. Doors of obscenity. And then later, this is just a really bald statement for a newspaper.

Their musical poetry of good and evil is unlike the teeny bopper sound of the monkeys. Oh, my gosh. Who also played? I'm very curious. Is this article coming from the Deseret News? Yes. Yes, you got it. It's like the very conservative church.

Oh. It might even be a little, I mean, out of turn if I say the church owns it, but it's definitely heavily. Heavily. Heavily influenced by the church. Very conservative. Interesting. What my dad still, like, reads to this day. We'll send articles if there's everything.

It's like, yeah, of course, I know the point of view here. And I hated their movie review guy when I grew up. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Or do you remember any or like something you were excited about and Deseret's shitting on it? I don't have anything specific. I wish I did. I just remember anything that had like any violence or sex or anything that it was going to be.

I would just put explicitly exciting. They would definitely steer away from it. And then, you know, they were pro-Mormon cinema, which I'm in a Mormon movie. That's how I got into the movie. Whoa. My first acting feature film is, yeah. I'm in a movie called the RM, which means stands for a return. missionary.

Whoa. What are you? What are you? I'm a brother, one of the brothers of the return missionary. Wow. I'm kind of like a schemer. I have like two scenes, but one of them it's like I fake fainting to get out of a wedding line and the dad pays, it clearly like pays me, had paid me to do it to get him out of

wedding line. Because if you know, like in Mormon weddings, what's very traditional is when you get married, there's a long like a processional line where the whole family is standing. I don't know this at all. So like think of like an improv backline. Sure. We know what that means. Several feet in front of a bunch of drums of grease.

I can picture it. The bride and the groomer run in the middle. And then from winging out from them, the wings on the sides are the different for the family. Starting with parents, then down the line. Like I did this at my brother's first wedding whereas I was at the very end as a child and I was so bored out of my mind. So it's young. And I just remembered I would run on this bench that was. behind everybody and still there Eclare's.

Yeah, because I was just bored. Because every guest is supposed to go down this line and say congrats to everybody for the, right? Oh, it's like a flip of the, like table to table. Yes, exactly. So that's what was happening in the movie was this line. And everybody just has to stand on their feet to what every guest to come through and say hello, and congrats.

Wow. And then, yeah, I think so. So Desiread News is reading about, or they're writing about like, Terminator 2 and they're like there's nothing relatable in this. No wedding lines. Yeah. Now you're making me want to like dig up

old reviews of this. Because I can picture, I can't think of his name, but I can picture the guy that did a video for like the local news too. The review movies. And I was like, this guy sucks. I'm curious. Yeah. What comes to mind when I say August?

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And now back to the show. That's S-H-O-W show. Beach Boys played September 7th, 1968, and the box tops open for them. Oh, interesting. Oh, yeah, yeah, Chilton. Alex Chilton, yeah. The song is the letter.

That was the big hit. Yeah, yeah. Heads boys did that song, too. Oh, I didn't know that. So, yeah, Lagoon has like the old, The old parts of it have like a Swiss. I mean, here's the pamphlet.

It's like a Swiss like Nutcracker kind of like Swiss town aesthetic, I would, I would say. Oh, that's the overall. Yeah, because it's like Main Street area. It's sort of like a rip like of the Scandinavian parks, I would say. Sure. Yeah. Right. Probably.

Yeah. So like there's the old buildings that are still there feel kind of like that. And it is a mishmash of newer things and old stuff. But they still have like a skyway going across. I remember writing that all the time to go one end of the park, the other. And they have like a little like Main Street area. And I would say they immediately, near this Main Street area, they immediately like won us over, I think,

because my daughter, my three and a half year old daughter played one of these carnival games. And they let her just keep throwing darts until she hit a balloon. And then gave a prize. And you're like, okay, we know what we're dealing with here. It's not Disney. Disney would not do that. Yeah, yeah. Universal probably wouldn't do that at this point.

like let a child win at all costs. Yeah, yeah. So Amelia's okay, good. The vibe, it set a good vibe, I feel like for the place immediately when it was like, yes, we're going to let your young child have a cheap prize. Don't worry. It's interesting with a place like this where you're probably, I think it probably when we talked about it before it came off charming.

It seemed nice and seems like there was, like idiosyncratic rides. But a lot is riding on that first hour in a new park. Yeah. Where you're going, like, I mean, I was just in Denver for a sec, so I was reminiscing about Eilich Gardens, which went south for me extremely quickly, as fast as it could have. So you're like, I don't know, like that's an early, or are you, were you charmed right away? Or is that the moment? Yeah, pretty much right away, I would say. But we didn't know.

It is, it is very much like, it's, it's, there's a lot of different pieces of it. And it's, it is right by like a big mountain. So it gives a nice view. There's a nice, like, scenic view. There's a crazy-looking coaster that we'll get to in a little bit that is the first, like, visible thing that's somewhat newer or whatever. So I didn't quite know what to make of it immediately, but then you get to the little, like, Swiss old-time area.

So, like, immediately it was like a pretty good feeling. And then you really, as you walk around, you get the, you get the full feeling of it. But, yeah, it is a little bit, it's, it's, not-ish in the sense that, like, Knotsbury Farm is like, you can see where the 90s coasters, took over and then there's still a little bit of that like juxtaposition going on so it's a similar thing here but not nothing too crazy so we immediately try to get something to eat

which I will say this part of it we didn't go to one of like the nicer restaurants but the food there felt like the most basic like high school cafeteria food you possibly get and so like you're eating a walking taco out of a Doritos bag Oh, interesting.

It's like what's the one where it's with the Frito? The Frito pie. It's like, uh, chili pie. That's what that's like? Is that what? Or a Frito pie? Friedo pie? Yeah.

Where you eat it literally out of a Frito. That looks like they're just like trying to expand on that idea when no one asked for that. Like I got like a burrito too and then like this is like. Yeah, it seems like they're going to be bad. The most iceberg lettuce. There were other places that might be like. better food. I would be scared of non-American food at this

particular location. It was probably whatever was at the nearest like Walmart. They just got it. Like it was fine. It wasn't like completely offensive, but it was very plain or whatever. And this is before the lettuce crisis.

So you were not. This is way before the lettuce crisis. Yeah. So what was immediately though funny is that we were looking for a coffee. So we, we didn't notice coffee was on the menu in this part of the park.

So I went over and asked and immediately realized, oh, this park is staffed by teenagers. And when I say teenagers, it seemed like they were 14. Like we're not talking to Valencia teens when I talk about them up and they're like 19. No, these are like young teens. And they seem like not only maybe is this their first day, maybe this is their first day out of their house. And many, many seem like this.

And they were all like nice. But I went up to one of the booths. and I go, oh, yeah, is there a coffee? Do you guys have coffee here? And I got a stare. We don't have it here. We don't have any here. I go, oh, okay, is there a place around here?

I'm not sure. Oh, that's okay. Okay, thanks. Don't feel bad. Look, and now welcome to Mormon culture. Wow, wow. Is this something you think so? Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I grew up Mormon. Sure. Let's just let that cat are in the back. So yeah. You weren't just recreationally going to moral weddings? I said you weren't recreationally going to Mormon weddings. No, I wasn't a hobby. That is exactly it.

Like, where it's crazy to me. I mean, that is shocking to me. I haven't been to Lagoon for years. Yeah. That they don't have coffee at this point. Well, because the culture in Utah has, it's beyond just, Yes, they're dominant.

Like, LDS is dominated the culture there. But other things have come in. Like, people don't realize that Salt Lake has one of the biggest gay populations in the country. Sure, sure. And things like that. And coffee's everywhere. We get it all. It's easy to get.

Well, I eventually did get. We eventually figured out. But it took three more employees, I think. Really? You had to go through three from them just to direct you? I went to another little food booth. And again, I was sort of met with, um, I, um, I'm, uh, I'm not, uh, I'm not sure. I go, oh, that's okay or whatever.

So then I went over and asked somebody if they, this was maybe over by like a newer looking like sweets, a sweet store or whatever. Okay. And somebody, I go, oh, do you guys have coffee or whatever? And one of them just goes, you mean like the fancy kind?

Or? And I go, oh, I just, regular, anything is fine. If you, if you, if. Anything that sort of looks like it came out of a bean. It's good to go with me. Yeah, and I can't remember if it was that guy or a different, a different teen that finally said, okay, if you go like two lands over, because there's all this, like a lot of kiddie flat rides, you know, boats and planes and whatever. But if you go past to like the old, more old west where we're talking about, there is a coffee place there.

And it's a dedicated like place that has coffee and stuff. I don't know why all the kids didn't know it existed. It wasn't like obscure. It was just a place. It was just a full building that was devoted to coffee. They're not sure. Coffee is an obscenity. Yeah.

It's the hot beverage thing. Yes. Mormons aren't supposed to have any hot beverages. Right. So I do wonder if it's either they're not. It sounds like a lack of knowledge. And two, because they're teens. And look, I'm never going to, you can't rely on a teen employee.

And I don't blame him. I'm like, No, I was not, I was delighted by it. I was hoping it took me 15 employees to get to coffee. I was so happy that no, everyone was scared of me. Finally at 10 PM somebody.

I was just like the fear, they all had this such fear in their eyes too. I'm just like, oh my God, what is he asking me? Oh no, no, no, please go away. Like, yeah. They were like so afraid of the question.

So I was wondering what it was all about. I'm not allowed to direct people to drink that. Yeah. the brown hot beverage. Yeah, can't do that. I believe the, you know what?

I think it was after the candy people. It was somebody else who finally directed me. And they, they, they said, well, it's across from the Arby's. Wow.

And I said, well, that's what I said. I go, there's an Arby's in the park. Then I thought like, oh, are they telling me to leave the park?

But. Yeah, it's out on the street where it belongs. But there is like in the old West town. Oh. There is now an Arby's. across the street from the coffee shop.

They now have the meats. They now have the meats. There's an Arby. I'm sort of shocked there's not a Starbucks or something in there. Well, that's what I was wondering. Unless I totally missed it,

there didn't seem to be a Starbucks in there, but the coffee place was in, I forget actually what it was called outside, but it was in like an old place that had the first soda fountain in Utah. There was an old piece of machine. Now you're speaking my language. Old piece of machinery in there.

Well, you love soda still? Like you like, you like... Does he love soda still? Have you heard of the dirty soda? I have heard of the dirty sodas? Oh, of course. Dirt really intense. Yep.

You can get them sugar-free. Like when me and Beth, my wife, go back to see family, we'd recently just visited earlier this year, I think, and we went to Swig for her for the first time, which is like the big... And we got it sugar-free and it was awesome. It's weird as hell, but it was awesome. Even Taco Bell has sugar-free ones.

Yeah. Yeah. It's basically just like... like a soda and then like they just dump a bunch of cream in there. Everything that you would put in coffee, they're just like, well, we'll do that with soda and we'll take,

we'll do caffeine free. I've tried it a couple times and I wish it was a little, at least the Taco Bell version, I wish it was a little less cream. A cream would go a long way, I feel. Because sometimes you end up with just like a, like a cupful of cream at the end.

With tacos or burritos, that seems weird. Well, for me, no. Tacos and cream. Classic combo. I mean, sauce is creamy. Is caffeine for potent usually in some Mormon?

It is. Because I learned about this. You remember the movie SWAT, the remake with Sam Jackson and Colin Farrell? Yeah. Came out like 25 years ago? Yes. There's an offhand day player character who's like, you know, soda. He's drinking a can of Dr. Pepper and he goes, someone goes, so soda they're going to kill you.

And the character goes like, got to drink him. out of the house. What's Mormon? And I was like, what is that mean? And then I went and looked it up and I was like, oh. No, you were not supposed to have caffeine either. But we did. Me and my dad, me growing up, we weren't what they're called Jack Mormons.

Jack Mormons, just to real quick, educate you. Jack Mormons are like, oh, they still consume themselves Mormon, but they probably do, they don't follow any of the rules. Like they're probably having premarital sex. They're drinking, blah, blah, blah. So they called Jack Mormons, because they'll still show up to church

and try to act as a Mormon. We were not that, but we were definitely not. We were lenient. We were like, I grew up loving Coca-Cola. Like, I specifically have a memory of going to this place called Shopkoat, like department store near our house in loading up two, it was probably for the holidays, but loading up two shopping carts with just two liters of Coke.

Sure, yeah. And it was like, here we go. Put it in the garage because it's gold in Utah. It'll take cold out there. Mormon rager Kurt full of leaders We definitely had cousins That were like

You do not touch that stuff Or you get a caffeine Free version Wow Right So when I was asking some of these kids About coffee Was it like I was saying

Like where's the nearest Pornow store or something It feels like yeah I don't want to That's why they were reacting like that Because I was saying so Oh interesting I think there's a little bit of like

If they're especially teens They're probably a little like Yeah If I'm supposed to help And if they were Mormon, I think they're a little apprehensive. Wow, I didn't even think about like asking for it would be offensive or scary. I could be steep. I haven't lived there for years and I don't practice.

They might just not know. Excuse me. Excuse me, do you have, do you guys have any mescaline around here? Where's the meth? They might have been better with that. Yeah, they're like, oh, no, we don't. Right now. Let me call her up.

She moves the house. I think there's Sebeth and you. How much dark money it thinks hidden in those church coffers? Oh, whoa. Because there's, like, secret money in the, like, Catholic churches and the evangelicals, like, the organizant. Do you mean just, like, generally, are you talking in, like, a national treasure way? I mean. Are you talking about, like, if you went into it, like, a tabernacle?

I think there's probably, you think Joseph Smith's grave is just full of gold. Am I? Yeah, that seems like right, right? You know, it's like, Scientology is the second, is, like, the biggest or second biggest property owner on Hollywood? Yeah. I do think, I mean, they own downtown, essentially. There's like a big mall that the church owns down there, and they're all high-end stores. Yeah. I think this is not to be for it.

I do think because they're more of a modern church these days, I think you are right. I think there's so much money that is flooded through those through them. Mostly because of the tax breaks. Tax breaks. And we have what's called tithing as a Mormon. So it's like you're supposed to give 10%, I believe, of like your earnings to the church. And a lot of people, probably my father still to this day,

are devote to that idea. So I think they have a huge nest egg. I bet they have a fucking huge nest egg. And they probably own, you're right. They probably own property because they've tried to expand. They have temples everywhere in the world. Yeah. You've seen probably definitely driving past the San Diego one

if you go to Comic Con. It's right there off the freeway. Oh, right, right. Wait, like La Jolla Morris? Is it like, yeah, I feel exactly where it is, but you see it and if you're on the freeway out of the stadium. It's cool looking, yeah. Yeah, and so there's tons of money, but it's probably a little more governmentally on the up and up, but it's not dark. It's dark.

And they put it in bad places. Sure. Well, and just random, like, some of your tithing goes to like the, they need a new sunglass hut in the mall. You're going by the church, yeah. It's insane. There is plenty of tithing in southeast PA, whether you're perhaps. honest in Eric Half. There was plenty of tidings. Jason, this lists

what the flavors would be back then for the soda fountain. So customers had their choice of flavors strawberry, raspberry, or sasperola, and cream, which was the most popular flavor. A gallon of cream syrup was made by mixing three cans of old-fashioned condensed milk with a gallon of water. On hot summer days, customers would crowd 10 deep around the fountain and a glass of soda sold for 10 cents. which flavor would you pick jason well we were 10 cents does you only have one you only have 10

cents in your pocket there's one little dime in your pocket uh I probably strawberry but I did drink a lot of root beer and cream soda growing growing up so this was like root beer and cream soda together resperil and cream is that what sasperil is basically kind of a more earthier yeah root beer um so I guess I would try the most popular one but I have the razzperal and cream As a berry is interesting. You don't think of that as much as a popular soda flavor anymore. But that's what it was. But yeah, there's a lot of this stuff.

There's a lot of plaques on the wall. There's a lot of old equipment hanging out. Oh, that's nice. And if you want to just like roam and look at that stuff, you can. See how they used to live. See how they used to live. There is, speaking of dirty soda, there is some, like, in the middle of the Pioneer Town branding of, like, fizz drinks. Yes.

Which is a modern-looking thing that all of a sudden does not fit. F-I-I-Z? F, I don't know, F-F-F-F-I-I-I-Z. We're all seeing these letters differently. Yeah, I don't know. It's a Rorschach. Fizz drinks. Was one of those companies coming to Southern California or Crumble just introduced like a really big thing?

Good question. You're not talking about Dutch brothers, are you? Not Dutch brothers. We've talked about Dutch brothers. That's in San Diego. All over Salt Lake these days, too. Yes, yes. But I don't I've heard rumors of Swig making its way here I don't know

I am I have not I'm cold but a lot of things they start there don't make their way Because like we're there's the Mexican restaurant out there that's light Chipotle That's called Codoba no oh boy cafe Rio Oh I don't know that if you look at Cafe Rio it was huge when I was like in high school And it's essentially just that that counter kind of service yeah you do at Chipotle It was blew up. And I think everybody expected that to go from Utah out. And I think in its attempt to it never caught on.

Is it anywhere else? I feel like I have a phantom memory of seeing this like in an airport. Yeah, I could see that definitely in an airport. I wonder. But it's now just, I think, sort of stuck maybe some other closer states have it. But it definitely. It didn't blow up as much as Chipotle or. Wait, do we have?

They're around here a little bit. Are they really? A little bit. Huntington Beach, Lake Lake Forest. I'm not hanging out on. Lake Forest. Let's go after the recording. I mean, head to Orange County or Rancho Cucamongos.

If you can't, I'll go to. I can, I will. Oh, Santa Clarit. Maybe that's right. Valencia has a point. Are you seeing Spider-Man at CityWalk? No, because I... Okay, good.

You know, when you want to allow that your time, I'm just telling them. I've been told off my... I heard you guys talking about it earlier. It's made me very upset. Yeah. That's not my go-to one. Fairly soon on this podcast. My go-to-one is Maricontagist for the record.

Okay, sure. A lot of good snacking opportunities. But you don't get... Luxurias out to a mole. You don't get to walk through a metal detector, though. Isn't that... Yeah, I love to feel like I'm in a fucking high school. Yeah, yeah.

To see all your belongings go from your pocket into a machine. What a futuristic wonder world we live in. I'm living in total recall. when I put everything in a bag or my pockets today I'm like oh I'm hoping I can throw that in a dirty bowl baby so they have yeah they have like a telephone museum in Pioneer Village I said this has been here forever you're making me my next vacation with my wife

we're going here and just going to do this stuff because this stuff does it's tickling the back of my brain of wanting to explore all of And it's just got all this old equipment. It just got all this old equipment in this house. Yeah. They just look at like old operator equipment when they would do the switches and whatever you call it. How did you play the day? Because you're probably like, I would need some time in the telephone museum, please.

You've got a young daughter with you. How do you balance it all? She started, this is around the time she started acting out a little bit because we had stopped going on the fun little kid rides. All right. I'm with her on that. She was going a little while. and then it really came to a head in the next thing, which was the Don Ogden's miniature circus

and Pioneer Village's toy and doll museum. Oh, yes. You were sending some photos of that already. From this, for Don Ogdens. Yeah, this is where I would have started acting out as well. Yes, she started sprinting around this place, and we're like, you can't sprint and sprint away from us. Don Ogden would be furious.

Yes. So who's Don Ogden? I'm assuming the city of Ogden's probably named after this guy. I'm assuming. Oh, I don't actually know. I don't know that. I just read that he's like an artist in a miniature. He's not like very famous.

But he had created like a lot of these miniatures that are in here. So maybe I missed like some greater fame. Is he alive or is he like long? I would assume he's longed. I think he's old. I'm seeing the late Don Ogden of Draper, Utah. All right. Draper.

But this is. Often called Utah's first serial killer. Don't know. But this is I. I wish we spent another 30 minutes in here. This is right at my alley. This is creepy doll city. Wow.

This is weird circus miniature city. Just to give you a little bit of a vibe, you know. Oh, this is what we're doing here. I did not like that. That literally made my stomach upset. Wait, wait, I didn't really see it.

Well, I was going to get some more detail. But, like, you know, this is the vibe in there. It's just like a, kind of a porcelain. A hundred-year-old dolls. A grown man making that?

Oh, thanks. Yeah, and I don't know if Don Agden made all of them. There's a whole little thing about his, he's more of the circus guy. Here he is. I got a plaque. Here he is. He looks old 60 years ago. Don Ogden, builder of this sells floto. What word is that? Sells floato miniature circus. What sells floater inch sales? I don't know.

Is that the name of the two people who financed it? Or is that an old-timey phrase? What is sells floater? It looks like I'm losing my mind. Well, look it up, I guess. So wait, it's a type of circus. Sells floater circus. Oh, okay. It was a combination of the floato dog and pony show and the Sells Brothers Circus. All right. So it is a name and it is an old unpleasant thing.

So he, there's a long, there's a bunch of paragraphs here about him, like, you know, he built this and where he's from. And then the last sentence or two sentences say, I hope everyone finds the fun and thrills of circus life depicted in my miniature show. May all your days be circus days. And that's in all caps with a lot of exclamation point, which I really, I really enjoy that. Be circus. May all your days be circus jays. That's all right. Just watching animals in captivity have to perform for me every day.

Now, smelling those smells. Oh, we wouldn't love a circus day. Stale popcorn. There's a picture on the wall here, which I did send you. Yeah, I was going to say, my memory, my most concrete circus memories are like inland at the Jersey Shore with a tent set up in like a Kmart parking lot. So just black asphalt radiating heat and no climate control under the tent. And yeah, dung smell everywhere. So I sent a photo to you guys at the time.

I think Scott didn't love this photo. It was of a circus performer named Michu. Oh, no. Mishu. Mishu was the world's smallest man. That's right. He performed a Barnum and Bailey circus for a long time. He was like a legendary circus performer.

But I totally blanked until I was like, re-learning all of this stuff today. Do you know where I'm going with this? There are two things that are big big deals for Mishu. Yes. Number one, Mishu played elf. He played elf walking around.

Whoa. That would be not a puppet when he'd run? It was Mishu. Or do a jump for a roll. Mishu is a legend. Wow. And then I'm back on. I want you to open Google

and get ready to type in the following words. Mishu. I hope M-I-C-H-U. Am I-C-H-M-I-C-H-U? M-I-C-H-U. Then type in Michael. And then type in the word Jackson. Oh, boy.

Oh, God. I was hoping it'd be Eisner, and I'm disappointed it's Jackson. No, they were good friends. There were many different photos of an old M-S-U with Michael Jackson. Oh, and he's in a little top-ass. There's a lot of photos, just to put it in the specific Michael era, There's a lot of photos of Michael and Mishu and his good lady wife, Lisa Marie, Presley. Mishu, they were hanging out a lot.

There are multiple, like, outfits Mishu's where it's clearly different days where Michael, I believe Mishu is in a, I don't know if it's the Pepsi commercial with the fire, but Mishu was in one of the Michael Pepsi commercials, I believe. Wow. So Mishu is a big, Michael was obsessed with Mishu. He loved Mishu. I have to say, at least I'm finally comfortable. with photos of Michael Jackson and a little-sized person.

Well, right, he was an adult. Yes. That's fine. At last, I'm not. But Mishu, yeah, Mishu is a showbiz legend. Why were they friends? I don't. I'm not sure.

Hmm. I'm not sure, but they appeared opposite him in a Pepsi commercial. There it is. In that Pepsi commercial? Well, there was a couple, I think there were a couple Pepsi commercials. Who do you think lit the fire? No, Mishu, no. Mishu, no.

I don't believe Mishu. Mishu Utah's second serial killer. Mishu. By the way. He's in Big Top Peewee. And he seems he's a baby stunt performer and look who's talking. Hell yeah. This is a show and legit show biz legend.

You know what? I hope it's a cool shit. I really hope it didn't end at Lagoon. Well, I don't even know that he was a, like there's just a big picture of him. Oh, it's not even like he performed there. I mean, maybe he performed there when he was traveling with a circus, It doesn't, I don't know that he necessarily has a big connection to Lagoon. Is he in the cover of Dangerous?

That's something that I'm finding in. There's a lot of things in the cover of Dangerous. But I think, from what I'm Googling, I think, I think if you look close, you can find Michooo. He's in a Michael Jackson. I'm trying to find him right now. Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's in a little, this top hat with a little seven on it. That's exactly what he was wearing in the photo with Lisa Marie.

That's awesome. Whoa. Mishu's been on day. I've been seeing Mishu my whole life and never knowing it. Mishu is a podcast-the-ride legend as far as I'm concerned. Instantly. Instantly for all of his credits. Wow.

So, yeah, very excited to learn about that. There's a lot of creepy old Ringling Brothers photos on the wall in this creepy clown photo drawings. Can I side check really quick and sell you something I'm seeing in the, that thing I read, Sells Floto Circus. This is in the Wikipedia for that. In 1908, The Sells Flodo Circus appeared in Riverside, California.

When the animals were ushered off the train, a vapor flashback explosion occurred at an adjacent oil storage tank. This frightened the animals and led to an elephant stampede in downtown Riverside, leaving one person dead and six others injured. Jesus. The elephants all left because of an explosion. Oh, my God. That's nuts. That isn't, I mean, we haven't done enough circus talk, I guess, on the show either. No, we have not.

It's kind of a theme park. I mean, it's got to be probably a lot darker than that even. It's probably a lot scary. That was a light day. That was a light day. That was when he, the thing he said about have yourself, may every day be a circus day? Right.

You meant that's, you know, only some elephant casualties. Only a couple, yeah. A sales floated looking at the poster on the Wikipedia and just the description of it. I'm like, this is probably a thing in 2026 we haven't heard of, but the ancestors. the children of the people who made it, they probably

still have generational wealth like they still, they're back when there was so little entertainment options. It's like, well Slaus Foto's coming to town whole town's going. Dog ponies, fleas, they'll do anything.

There's some real douchey actor getting a lot of work, Ben Floodo. He's like starring in cheap Netflix holiday movies. Why is it? that actor's so bad? He's real shitty about it.

He's real like, Stitch turtsed your nose on. I'm a photo, yeah. Actually, I don't get along with the sales is I got to say. I mean, we send each other Christmas cards, but we don't really keep to touch otherwise.

We're civil, but like if I ran into one, I'd be fucking bored. So, yeah, just there's a few more photos of creepy dolls in this area that I really just haunted dolls galore. And then little, like,

little explanations. This one's called a mom. a doll. This doll over here is called Baby Shermer. I don't know why. Baby Shermer. It looks like Phyllis Diller a little bit. All of the pictures Mike

was sending us from this place looked like the real life house of the conjuring investigative couple. Yeah, I mean they all have to be haunted. And this one, this is like a little boy doll with like a blonde like, what would you call it?

The mop beetle's hair. I guess in some ways. And it just says, baby boy. This doll is circa 1880 to 1890. Very fine bisque. This head is German made, but is attached to a larger composition body. The original hair was destroyed and new hair was added in restoration. So you'll get details.

Very fine bisque mean. I don't know. I don't know. It's a doll term. There's an old, there's grandma tea sipper here. An old lady with a teacupup. This is 1946, this 31-inch-seeded

Grandma doll with an internal clock mechanism keyed to make her rock was made in West Germany after World War II. Mechanized dolls from West Germany in this period were particularly fine.

So you get a lot of There's a French boy doll. This little boy has good teeth, beautiful brown, hand-blown glass eyes and a wig-styled as a child would have had it in the late 1800s. His costume would have been used formally for teeth.

are parties. His ball-jointed body and bisque head denote French dolls made about 1890 to 1895. He is dressed. I mean, what would you, how would you call this? Like, that kind of like Fauntleroy. Little Lord, purple little lord Fauntleroy like crushed velvet. Yeah, yeah. I would

I would call it you, sir, have made a sale. I mean, I would have, if they sold like a facsimile of one of these, I would have bought you a baby Shermer and I would have bought me a grandma tea sipper I think maybe depending so we again did not spend enough time

in that area because my daughter sprinted away maybe there's hope for your daughter after all that's fine but there's no hope for me I'm shocked that Michael Jackson was not the owner of all of these belongings that I mean he bought me shoe he did

he did own him but probably did you have to ask for permission Did you have to ask permissions from the dolls before you took a picture? I thought about that. Robert the haunted doll, you're supposed to ask the doll before you take a photo of him because he's haunted. But I didn't ask these dolls and there was no warning. I did not know this rule about dolls.

Robert. Well, specifically Robert. These guys like to bring up this fucking doll like it's famous all the goddamn time. Where's this doll? Where is I know this doll. Florida now. Key West. Florida is where Robert lives.

But if you want a photo with him, ask where else he's going to live? Where does he live in Key West? Case. Case. Glass case. Well, I, but not that he might get up and get out every now and then. Yeah. Supposedly, if the bad things happen with Robert.

If you take his photo. If you don't ask, yeah. Supposedly. Have you talked to anybody directly that has taken a picture without requesting? If you would believe it, Eva Anderson has seen Robert thought it all. Of course, Eva Anderson. Yeah, yeah. It's total sense.

But she did, things are going well for her. She didn't break the rules. Yeah, she asked for me. I believe she asked a lot. That's giving her good luck if anything. Yeah, yeah.

So there's a lot of things that seem hard. Galane Maxwell broke the Robert rules. Yeah, that's what happened. That's why she has such bad luck lately. Yeah. Yeah. There's just a building like,

this place didn't even need rides. I mean, there's just like a building that just has Mormon furniture. And I go, I'd like to see what that looks like. It's fascinating. And you just go in and you're like, here's some tables and here's some chairs in a house. And it's like next to rides. Some of the driest stuff I've ever seen.

Some of the driest. It's like an exhibit or you can buy it. No, just an exhibit. Oh, okay. Because the Amish, in Amish country in Pennsylvania are known for making very nice furniture. Oh, of course. Yeah. So no, this, I don't think these were things for sale.

Probably the Mennonites. But it'll just like on the wall. It says, we cut down and brought to camp two cedars for purposes of making bedsteads, beds, etc. Journal of Howard Egan, August 3rd, 1847, 10 days after the arrival of the first pioneers. You're like, was that quote really worthy of being on the wall? This guy say something more interesting. Extremely memorable.

You're going to take that, and you read that to an audience just now. They're going to go about their lives differently because they heard it. That thing about pales. They just got to town. They just there. Like, what was the journey? Like, he's like, nope, we just took two big logs and we're going to make some beds out of them. There you go.

That's what you're going to have to do. Yeah. It seems like, be alive, yeah. Usually. I'm going to put that on a plaque one day, sir. So, yeah. So we, that zone, the Pioneer Town Zone is where all that stuff is. And then you go back out and does the log ride still there in the area?

Log ride seems like something in they might. It's one of the most. boring log rides ever. It's in the water? Yeah, there's like a little track of just water and then there's one drop. We should look it up if it's there.

Mike did he didn't see it. He was too busy in the museum. Yeah, I was looking at... He's chasing after his daughter is running away from this. There's like an old dentist's office too. It makes total sense.

It's like an old dentist office. There's old dental equipment sitting around and I mean, it's not dissimilar to what Nats has with Ghost Town in some ways. But like still like that did, that was definitely drawing my attention. There's a whole water park there too.

Yes. That came in when I was a team. Okay. That was like a big deal when that came in. So you did go to this water. Oh, I went to Laguna Beach, which is not like Laguna with the GUNA. Right. Lagoon, capital A, beach.

Right. That's fun. So do you like that? So when you were a kid, did you ever, did you look at the doll museum or was that just a kid? There's no way. Yeah. All the things that you touched on and would now like be a moment, at least for a fascination for me now as an adult, I would have. I would have walked through Western Town multiple times

and just been like yeah who cares I want to get out of here I want to go to a ride Yeah yeah I would have been so bored Yeah I would have been too I mean I've said before on the show I was all into space

And I was not into the old west I was not into like history Yeah it didn't seem very interesting to me Maybe the Wild West The Wild West show Where they would have done the stunts Would have entered Sure

But it felt like I as a kid I remember Like I didn't want to wait around for it Yeah yeah yeah To start I'd be like I'd rather be doing something else That can be done death, though, yeah, just the kind of like milling in and getting people in their seats. And yeah, you know what, it's less, I think it's more that you'll lose a kid in that zone,

not in the show itself. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the like 20, 30 minutes seating on a metal bench when it's 80, 90 degrees helps. Yeah, yeah.

Then maybe one kind of like, I don't know, like scampy guy, like bothering people and like, you know, like the guy who's clearly going to be in. the show, which just stressed me out, I think, that, like, what if he comes up to me? And then, how do I have to be in the show? We're on the same length. Do you still feel that way now? No, there'll be things where I'll give myself over to, like, sure, I'll participate as a child for sure. I don't.

I like being on stage. Like, if I'm asked to be a performer on stage, like, I'll improvise with mic. You know in advance, you know. And I love, I love being on stage. But if I am there as just an audience member, I hate. My wife makes fun of me. And when we go to magic shows, because we do like some high-end,

but we love high-end magic. Ah. And, well, well, fancy. We do. High-end magic.

She, after one incident where I panicked, when the guy's like, just literally the magician's like, can you get a like a number or a car name? I was like, uh, because I just don't,

I just want to watch. I do not want to participate. Or you can improve. Jay? I can know that. That's actually a letter. But for some reason, a letter.

It's not. locked in is that? You can do a long stretch of improv, yes, if your brain is clicked over it's, but in the moment, yes, you can't name one single thing. I know what you make. So fast. Yeah, yeah. Then now, if we go to a magic show, one, I just hope to God I'm never going to get called on. I'm like, I do not want to participate,

but she will, she'll run it. She'll like quiz me as to drive there. She'll be like, color, car. Whoa, whoa. Don't warm me up. Just in case. If I get called on. That's really funny. And if they say like,

bird. Then you're script. You know, I was screwed. Orange. I'm seeing the log flum closed in 2022. Oh.

So that ride ended. And they replaced it with this like new area with some rides we did go on. And it's called the district. Yeah. There's a lot of naming that was not there when I grew up. I was looking on a line.

I was like, oh, all this is so new. And the district is like steampunky. Oh God. And like my daughter went on the steampunk helicopter. Steam punk helicopter. Yeah. Open a.

24, I think. A steampunk helicopter. And then I went on this thing with my mom that's like this like, I forget what the name of it is. But it's just kind of one of those things where you're on big arms spinning and it looks like this big steampunk contraption. I just landed on that. It's time tinker. Thank you. Yeah.

Time tinker. And I had a little bit of like stress as we were sitting in the air because I don't like those legs dangling. Yeah. It felt a little. But it was a new place. But once it was moving, it was fun. But it is one of those where you feel like you're going to fly. It's just going to fly.

fling you across Lagoon. Oh, yeah. Because of just the way it's just spinning, spinning, spinning. So it was fun, but, you know, I'd have to go on it more than one time to feel perfectly comfortable. Did you, was your, is your mom stressed out? She was stressed out to you. Okay, okay.

Yeah. Different parts, though. She didn't like the spinning. She was fine with the sitting. I was not so fine with a sitting. That's what, for whatever reason. It was opposite. So, yeah, this, this log flume looks like just one.

it looks very simple. It looks like there was just one big drop right and like baths and yeah that is like more open than I remember it but it was so it was boring like I remember doing it oh wait that's a different one

sorry sorry that's fine but it was boring there was no and it didn't have which is fun like even like a I know it's like not Splash Mountain level or whatever what's it called now Tiana's Bayou Adventure yeah

that has like a story around you. Yeah, yeah. This felt like it was just woods. You were just like on a water track and you're just looking at nothing. It's a pretty boring genre of ride if you don't have a hundred robots. Yeah, exactly. And it was like, why don't they put like something like cowboys or something?

Yeah. Or Frontiersman or something in here. Because it was just like, you just wait and then you'd go down. You're like, and I remember that we do it as a family. And I would be like, I never want to go. I wouldn't want to go back. You know what they do have a lot of is creepy dolls. There are a lot of dolls that don't do that.

Is that something? They could put dolls. Now it sends you down the tube. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're putting their curse on you. You're ready to get splashed on by all of us dolls. But there's a certain generation of people who were kids when the conjuring movies started coming out, you know?

And now they love haunted dolls. They're adults and they're like showing their kids the haunted tall movies. Yeah, that's right. So that would be nice. But yeah, this thing is gone. And that it's right that this whole area is right by the coffee place in the Arbyes. Wow. So that's what has changed.

There used to be pavilions over there. Maybe they're still there. Yeah. Like picnic in that. Okay. I'm really talking weird today. That's okay. It's hot out today.

It must be the heat. Because I went here multi. Like now that we're sitting here talking about it, I went to Lagoon so many times. Yeah. When I, in the time from being grown up before I left. because we go there as a family during the summer. Every end of the school year, you'd go there on a field trip.

Right. Like almost every grade, it would be like, that's the thing we do at the end of the year for the last day of school. It'd be like, we're all going to getting in a bus, and you're going to Lagoon with your friends.

Right. Then all my family, except for my dad, and I think maybe lasted a day there, worked for Discover card. Oh. We were all like collectors at one point, other things there. I did it too right before I moved to LA and they would have big events

for the company. And I remember going there specifically like for free with my mom when she worked there and other brothers and we'd have and you'd get like cheap, very crappy like hamburgers that were like felt like they were out of a high school cafeteria. But it was great because you'd just be like, great, see you later. Free time at Lagoon. I'm just going to go ride which I just pulled up. One of my favorite ones I would ride all the time is called Jet Star 2. which is no longer there. I just realized it was removed in 2025

and I don't know why I really liked this and it was like what was it like yeah it was you were like one row right so you were sitting behind the people if you're like I'd ride with my mom a lot I remember

and I would she'd probably be sitting behind me but they're like six people and it would just it was just like a very classic go up come back down like in spirals right right and I remember just loving that even as a teen in my later age, I was like, this is right. This is such a simple ride that I loved.

Yeah. Was your favorite ride probably there? That and eventually Colossus when I stopped being afraid of roller coasters. Oh yeah, that's my question is like, when you started graduating up, what are the big ones there to conquer? Glossus was it. A lot of my lagoon experience as a kid was me terrified of everything. Sure. Like, I would get a lot of anxiety and I remember specifically my family, like, do you want to go on La Closus?

finally and I'd try to get up like the I'm gonna do it and I would panic yeah it terrified me looking at those two loops you're in the right place I was like you're the right people god that is the scariest thing in the world to me so I avoided that for many I probably I'd have to check with my family I would honestly say I avoided it until I was like 14 or 50 yeah I hate I was like no way you're getting the time and you went on one of these did you go on track is it that you went a terror ride. I went on both dark ride and Dracula's castle those things for so long

scared the living shit out of me. And I would just the outside. I would not go on them and eventually probably when I was like a little older maybe a little younger than 14 or 15 my dad's your going with me and he just like talked me through it by making

jokes the whole time. Yeah yeah. And there's I don't which I don't know if it was terror ride or dragon's castle somebody's on an electric electric chair at one point. And I just remember my dad's dumb dad joke to keep me calm was like, look at this guy, Dave. He's having an electric time. And that dumb joke got me through this. They should not be scary to anybody.

Barely anything that is. It's nothing. An electric time. The famous phrase, an electric time. He's having himself a circus day. Yeah, my dad was having circuses all the time. I do that with my daughter a little bit where I kind of like talk. She wanted to do haunted mansion.

and then I just told her there's three parts and the ends with a party and she goes, great. And now that's what she talks about. I like, I can't like end when it's a party. So it's like she's looking forward to this. Does you tell her about the carved wood door frames? No, that's when she's five.

That's when she's a little bit older. I'll make her learn. Yeah. Now she experiences and then she'll learn. That's good. And she needs to learn all the names, Exotentiio. Yeah, she does need to learn those.

And then the bad names we don't like of all the ghosts that they added in the last 15, years. We don't like that. We don't want them to have names, but some Imagineers added it. We don't know. That was the thing that stuck out to me learning about this park. It's like, oh, cool, this park has two haunted houses.

Yeah. Terroride and Dracula's castle. Now, when you were going to them as like, did they have live actors in them at all? Jumping out? I don't remember they're ever being live actors. There could have been an era where it was. Again, I don't have a great memory because I avoided them so much. Yes.

And even after doing what I just said to like my dad finally getting me to go on it, I didn't go back and be like, now I'm going to keep doing it. Because I'm not that. I'm not a I don't like the feeling of being scared like a lot of other thrill seekers in that sense. I love 20 houses as a kid

but I wasn't a big horror movie guy and if I heard there were live actors in the house, I was like oh they're going to kidnap me. They're going to hurt me or kidnap me. Like there was big hunted house on the Wildwood, New Jersey boardwalk, and it was about to get in line.

And I asked someone if they were live actors. And they were like, yes. Wow. And I was like, oh, no, it's not repeatable motions. And you can't see them coming necessarily advance. I was like, I'm out. I'm not doing it. Yeah.

No, thank you. I have not been in a haunted house since I left Utah. And I won't. Let's go this season. Oh, yeah. It's going to take a lot to get. I do not like them. Let's go. Come on.

I'll make little jokes. I'll make little jokes about the performers. Can I be honest? You even saying that right now? Got your blood pressure up. I could feel my chest tightening a little bit of like the idea. Like everybody's like, and this is like a town where people love them. Well.

And like on Hollywood nights or whatever. Hard nights. These two gentlemen finally did horror nights after nine years of doing it on the show. So they conquered their fears last year. Yeah. I kind of, yeah, it took a long. I was hard, hard out on it. And so it's possible.

If you had any. desire to be but if you don't want to be don't listen to what he's saying you need to do it you need to do it Jason agrees we lucked out because I was like well I get to sit in a wheelchair and I can close my eyes without falling and Scott got the death grip

the wheelchair handles yeah yeah no yeah yeah yeah you know gave myself scars from how hard I was gripping Jason's handles yes so we know it was teamwork it was a nice thing wow that's lovely you'll get there you'll get there I think Maybe one day. But yeah, Colossus. Eventually after riding, I think Colossus is a great simple roller coaster. Did you get to ride any of these?

I, so first of all, they have a crazy one called Cannibal. Never been on. This is very, like, it slows you. It's like you go vertical to get up there in a little building, a big building. And then it drops you, like, pauses you with the top. And then you kind of go not even just like 90 degrees. You go like whatever that at 45 degrees, however you would measure it. Yeah.

And I did not end up going on it. I got into a fight with my mom before about going on it because she really didn't want me to go on it. She wanted me to lie to the podcast audience because I said maybe I'll have to. What's happening? Because I said this is a lot of my wife, but I would lie to my listeners. He said. I did say, yeah. I have boundaries.

There's an honorability coming with the content. I said, and I should have gone on to spite. her honestly. I said, because you drive up and you see this crazy looking one, cannibal. And I was like, I go, oh, that really freaks me. The look of it really freaks me out. I don't know if I'm going to be like brave enough to do that today. My mom's like, don't do that. Do not do that. It's too scary. And I go, well, it would be funny if I do it for the show or whatever. And she goes, you could just say you did it. You could just say that you did it on the show. And I go, well, what's the fun in that? Can we role play this a little bit?

Imagine that you did, you've just told us that you did it. And you're lying. And you're lying. Oh, oh, you're going, okay, so let's see how effectively I could have lied. Yeah. You're not a cannibal? How was the cannibal? Oh, you can't.

That's crazy. How that's how scary? You guys know, I don't like, like, I don't like kind of dangling. I don't like the lead up in a roller coaster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a lot like hang time at knots where you're going straight up on your back. Oh, yeah. And I was freaked out.

Right. And it's really scary. And this one's in the dark. So I am so scared at this point of doing it And then it pops you out of like a little hole Like a birdhouse or something At the top of this big building And it stalls you

And that's the part where you really like Your feet are dangling And you're scared really scared badly Whoa And then I peed in my pants Oh my God Like as you're about during the little weight And then you peed

And then you had to do the ride with wet pants Yeah I was completely And did you get, did they still eat you after? Because it's the cannibal. Yeah, but it was more delicious. Maybe if you're a cannibal, you like that. That's a little marinade. Was the ride intense enough?

It dried your piss pants? It dried it? Yeah, that's a great question. It's high enough? Yeah, it was so, yeah. They were soaked and then by the end they were dry. Whoa. Wow, man.

This is a wild and singular experience. and one that frankly I It can only come from a real place So this is Yeah It's brave of you to tell us what you really did Thank you

Your family must love the rest of the road trip With that dried uric acid They did yes There was that I had no other clothes Oh yeah One pair of shorts on the whole trip Wow It's a stinky wedding attire

That was what I wore to the wedding And we couldn't clean them either But Well you could which I guess she was right. For the record. For enough time that you can... Yeah.

And then... But then, you know, then I wasn't scared. Ultimately. Then I was glad I did it. So actually everything worked out. Mm-hmm. That's true. So I would be excited.

For the record, I would be excited to go on that these days. I will... You just mentioned hang time. And I did that for the first time a couple years back. And I went on it multiple times. Yeah. Because I actually really love that weird now these days.

I'm like, oh my God. No, I've never done. That's a... That's one that I haven't done. You haven't done? I don't really wanted to. Oh, yeah. I went on it and then I was just like got addicted to do it that.

Yeah. And I would prefer to be sitting on hang time most of the hours of the day. I like roller coasters and I like to be up high. And you like making a phone call and waiting a hang time waiting for the pick up? One of my doctors. I would go. I would like to go back. I will do it next time.

We also though just because we were trying to get on the road because I had really like budgeted our time badly. We had gotten up like to the hotel late the night before. and we were like, we need to get on the road before 7 p.m. tonight because at first I thought we would just spend the night there. So then we were running out of time. And then I just broke off from the group and I was like, I got to do big stuff. And that's when I did the two haunted houses.

And the museum of shovels. And the museum of shovels. Mormon shovels. They're blessed by the prophet. Yes. Yeah. So and then I asked, I literally just went up to an employee. who didn't seem so scared

and I said, what do I need to do? And that's when they said... Not coffee, I'll tell you that much. Yeah, there's a ride that you went on and you posted a picture was identical or video you posted that's identical to my nephew. Yes. And I want to know what it is.

Yes. And I would ask my nephew, but I love him to death be autistic. So I don't think I'm going to get the right answer out of him. Okay. Well, I might... Love you. Love you, buddy.

It's the same video he has posted multiple times is that cat princess talking. A cat princess. Yes. What the hell is this rock? Oh, it's like dark ride kind of thing. So we're talking about primordial. Primordial.

So that's, so that, yeah, I asked what do I need to do here? Because there's not a lot of stuff other than the like haunted rides, which do have robots and stuff. There's not as much like dark ride stuff going on. So I didn't even ask specifically for that. But that it's a little, if I had a criticism of the park, it needs more robots, which we would always, I think we'd all agree with. Most common criticism. So somebody was like, oh, you need to do primordial. And I said, oh, okay.

And I had seen behind the cannibal, there was this big, like, a bunch of fake rocks and a roller coaster that popped out of it. And somebody was like, yeah, yeah, it's that like green coaster thing back there. This is new-ish. It's new, uh, 2023. Yes, newish. So I was like, great. And I don't know anything about it. We've never talked about it before.

Obviously, it's very new. And you walk into the first part. of the queue and there are i think maybe you got 3d glasses before this so i was like no idea what the ride is and you walk into this area and you are met with an animatronic on these rocks that stopped me dead in my tracks this is the end of our day i got such an ex i was so excited i could not believe it's because there's no hint that this is what this is or anything that there's a story here i just thought it was

maybe like a weird half dark ride half coaster i wasn't really even sure and you walk in and you were met with uh uh let's say i just i'm always going to get her name wrong queen asdra asdra queen asdra and she is a lynx what's the character from never ending story oh yeah it sounds very very i've seen it and i can't think of the name too creeped out by that yeah idea of that movie to what to know and i'll try and maybe this won't be loud enough um but i'll put it, I'll pump it up when we do it. But you walk in and she's on like two rocks and there's a big screen behind her that kind of looks like a storybook.

And she's explaining to you what you need to do. And there's this music playing. And I just stood there for like, I watched the whole thing like three times. I was so enamored. Yeah, there was no one in like people would go by me. But there was no one really in like no one else was that. Maybe one other group was like interested in Queen Asdra. This is weird for a new coaster to have something like this.

I know. It was so, I was just, I was so thrilled. So please, we need your help. No food and drinks allowed. This mission requires immense courage and great skill. She's a real tail being woven behind her. Pontus and Atteca to guide you on your journey. Like a star fox kind of, yeah. Pontus and Atteca are her allies.

And then there's bad guys too. and there's a whole mythology that you have to rescue Dragnor or a street Astridor which one I don't know either of them Whatever you find rescue it

You have to rescue one And you have to destroy the other Please do not get them mixed up It's Ragnor and Astridor How could you get those confused And yes There's like Star Fox looking characters And again I watch this

I watched the show three times. She's on a big mound of fake rocks. How long was that the show part of it? It gives you this exposition. It was a couple minutes. Like I feel like maybe 90 or maybe 90 seconds or something. Okay. But you didn't burn that much time watching it multiple.

No, I was in there like eight to ten minutes maybe. But I, yes, I was so enamored with Queen Asdra. And then the ride itself is this weird. coaster hybrid with like guns. I'm flipping through it currently. You get glasses and guns. Yes. This is a lot of rides all on.

You're given objects or they attach to the ride? You get, they're attached to the ride. Like the buzz light year kind of thing? Yes. So the first part of it is you go out in a coaster, you like do this big kind of drop out of the mountains. And then you go.

So there's a couple like pretty impressive, like coaster moves. And then you go into just a bunch of screens where you're shooting to try to get rescue Dagnor and there's all these different like No, you got to destroy Dragno. Yeah. And it's it's I was

delighted by it but it's like it was like Bary Nott's Barry Tales now or it's like sort of just a 3D shooter thing. Yeah, the quality of the screens makes me nervous for sure but I like the idea of it. I love yes I love

the idea of it and I was like tickled the whole time but I was like I wish this part It was a little bit more robot-based. I almost wish there was no coaster at all, and we just got to see more robots of all these characters. But, of course, I was just like, new lore. This is great. I think I have my score here, not that it matters.

It matters. It's four people in the cars. Did you beat the strangers? Well, actually, there's... I'm going to ask for my nephew's score and be like, Zane. Oh, yeah, ask him. Do you think you... I have to text as my sister.

That's what I'm trying to... Sure. A middleman here? It will probably won't come. It will be days from now and I finally get a response. There's three people that were playing in my car and I got second place.

A little boy beat me. Apparently. Is that a status that you got? You're a knight because of that score? Or are you a knight no matter what? Well, we'd also say, I think it's a knight no matter what. And then, yeah, we got off the ride. And I think I'm repeating myself because I said this already.

I ran into the gift shop. Oh. And I said, I want Queen Asra. Do we have a shirt? Do we have a plush? Do we have anything? You should know this about me. I'm a real clothes horse.

Yes. So. What I'm wearing right now is haunted. I need this off. Is there a Queen Asra jacket? Like suit jacket. I can wear to a wedding that has her face on the back of it. And again, I was kind of met with a,

what? Like the coffee? I go the character on the front of the ride that won in the pre-show, which I don't even know that the kid knew what I was talking about. And I was like, there's a character there. And she talks to us. And I go, I just like, is there a picture, is her picture on anything? Is it on a notebook?

Is there any merch you have that has her featured? Yeah. I don't think so. And that's when you gave a gentle slap to me. And you're like, don't look away. Look at me. Don't look away. Look at me.

Yes, I started slapping. Yeah. And it's like this noise. Yeah. And that's Mike slap. That's Mike Slap sound. Yeah. So there's no Queen Astra merch.

anywhere. How is that possible? Featured rides at the place. I mean, I think she should be featured on the pamphlets. Like, you need to hype people up that this robot exists because it's totally hit.

I mean, I guess it's fun that you happen upon her. But like you should go to, to lagoon.com or whatever the website is. And see her. Right. And see her. Right.

See her. Come here and meet. Azra. Right. Because she's cool. She's cool. And that's a fun little show. This is what the,

this is. all said in the dolemite mountains could they not have thought of a new word all the words we need something it sounds like stalagite or something I know dolomite should we see if that's something else no no time of dollards all of it feels all of it feels like they spent five seconds naming

everything which makes me like it more well I wonder if they ripped okay I'm only going to put this this theory out oh go ahead if they ripped something else off because Utah does have a weird thing that it rips off from other places. Okay. Their outdoor mall, it's a winter place. They ripped out clearly outdoor malls from like California to try to like bring people

downtown. Have you done an episode or talked about Casa Bonita yet? Yes. And I just went again. I just returned from there for the second time. I don't know if you talked about the lore. Great. There's a lore.

I've never been there. But the lore growing up, there's this place called the Mayan that they've created. Oh, really? In this place called Jordan Commons in Sandy, where we would go see movies growing up. And when you were allowed when the reviews weren't banned. Yeah, I lived by reviews. But they played this mind, and it was the same, it was just their straight up rip-off. Wow.

Really? This is news to me. And it was just, but it was like South American themed called the Mayan. They had people as characters. I had a friend that was in, like, I knew from school and church that was like, worked there. Wow. And she played like a traveler character.

And then they'd had divers and everything. Divers even. Yes. They got eventually got sued and had to close because cost me, he's like, you just came up here and stole our fucking thing. Wow. How far did they make it? When did it go away?

Do you know? We'd have to look at, did it cross over to Trey and Matt era or did it, no, it was way, got closed down way before. Okay, okay. Well, all right. They're saying,

I'm seeing comments saying that the food quality was Oh, it was, from the jump, it was horrible. It wasn't like a restaurant that they were like, it was good. And then it went down because they were like cutting costs. It was like from the jump. From the very big, yeah. Well, the more themed, often the worst the food. The Mayan adventure in Santa Utah.

Wow. Yeah, rainforest theme. It looks like, oh, man, this is, you're dropping a big old thing here. I had no idea about this. A Mayan ripoff, Cass of Anita. My God. I mean, I'd like to go. to that too.

Wait, here's maybe an article 2011, it seems like it made it too. I'm also seeing that some restaurant maybe in this, oh my God, are you fond of this restaurant? There's the Mayan Adventure, but then apparently, also in Jordan Commons, a great-looking establishment called

Spaghetti Mamas. Spaghetti Mamas couldn't survive? I don't think I ever ate in the spaghetti economy. Curse you Obama. That just sounds like a Ribati Spaghetti factory, which I went to a lot as well. the job.

My marriage to spaghetti mama. Jason got divorced from spaghetti mama. It was like a thing. Did she get everything? Yeah, she got everything. She didn't let me keep my spaghetti leftovers. Spaghetti Mama took Jason for all he's worth. I went into this bachelor party saying I'm going to bag me a spaghetti mama.

And Mike was like, mark my words, spaghetti mama's going to ruin you. I was right. She left me for a Parmesan Papa. I don't know how I thought I could compete with him. I don't have shit. Oh, boy. Wow, I got to look into that.

That's a big reason to go to me. I mean, I wish it still existed that you could go. I know. Great lore. I'll try to find videos, though. I'm really mad now that I'm like, I mean, Like, if you can imagine, my Casabino-Lov has skyrocketed, even from where it was already. Oh, yeah.

And I'm offended that anybody would come for them like that. As much as I'd like to visit this awful rip-off, I'm pretty mad on Kaspranina's behalf. They'd try to go for the crown. Did you hit up Eulich Gardens again, see if they did it. I drove by it on the way, and we were scarred by the memory. This is a Colorado theme park in which, and this is not their fault. Is it the one that's in central downtown Denver? Yeah, yeah, it's really close

My wife is from Denver So when we visited She pointed it out And we didn't get to go I think it's your wife Pask asked Beth Appell She, when we were trying to figure out topic

She mentioned like Oh, but I could do The good Denver theme park And I'm like, what do you think The good one is? And she's like, Eilich Gardens And I was like, I've got some bad news For you

It's kind of held up This is the place We did this on our Patreon but the, this is not their fault. It was generally an unpleasant day there. And then at the right when we were like, how much longer do we stick around? My wife and son went on a merry-go-round ride

where a woman fainted probably to her death. It was one of the most tedious. Death by fainting? Yeah, on a horse. And it was so, it was horribly scarring. My son was so upset, understandably. And we were remembering all this on our ride back to the Denver airport

because we're like, how do we save this day? How do we save his mood? He just saw something genuinely awful. The only answer is bass pro shops, the big bass pro shops. We're going to run around there. We're going to let him climb on some boats and we're going to... And that cure him? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The idea of it was like, I'm fine now. I'm totally fine. I'll forget that body dropping. Anyway, not their fault, not their fault. But when you're not having a good day at a park, I'm glad nothing like that happened to you at Luechoo. No. Mike, your description of the newer big roller coaster

Coasters reminded me. There was announcement recently. The Six Flags Great Adventure in New Jersey announced the replacement for King de Kha, which was another past episode. King to Ka, of course, went like straight up and like steeped down. The replacement of King to Kha also launches you straight up. It does some like, there's some spins at the top. I forget whether the coaster is spinning, but the track just goes in circles a little and it goes backwards. And I'm like, This thing's going to break all the time, too. It looks like, why did they close King de Kau because it broke? And I was like, this thing looks like even crazier King to Kahn.

Oh, wow. Technology is such that maybe it'll walk. He could be. It could, yeah. We're pulling for you. We hope you work, ride. We hope you work. I went on, it was a funny, a couple of quick things real quick.

Dracula's Castle, I had gotten a big Diet Coke and I'm drinking it, and I realize, oh, I can't go on the ride with this. there's no food and drink on the ride and I went, wait a minute, what if I just go on with the big Coke in my hand? Will anyone say anything? Very good question. The answer is no.

They're teens. They do not care. Yes, they didn't care. I flunted. Look, I was stressed, but I flaunted the large Diet Coke in my hand as I got in alone to Dracula's Castle ride and went on it,

sipping the Diet Coke had a lovely time at all the neon and the day, whatever you call it, day glow colors. Terroride is more robots to my memory. That's the bigger ticket haunted ride. Does the front letters still shift like? Yeah, I believe

they did. They animate him. That's all I remember on Terroride. But there were a lot of, there was like some good good shitty looking robots. Okay. Like haunted robots. Like that is, that's the thing we like and that's what we're lamenting about Disney World like making all their stuff

new lately. Is like, Like, you want to have a couple things. You can update, do a little bit update, but we want something physical and like. Well, and there and present. That's why parents of the Caribbean, if they ever update that to a modern, it's going to lose all its charm. Well, do you know what they just did? What did they just do? Because I know the stupid, whatever, Davy Jones moment.

Well, now there's a, there's like a skeleton comes to life who didn't used to come to life. And it looks like. Shit. One of the faith. Before the whole like battle part and you go to the town In the road In the part they used to just have skeletons Yeah were they all just in the caves

And they're just in the caves right And they're on like one was just a skeleton on a bunch of pile Like a pile of coins Yeah now that comes to life with a weird digital face The one that's like in the bed No no later It's in the mountain of like He's got like a weird rear projectiony face

And he goes oh And then he like turns into his... He does a home improvement transition sound. A music place too for some reason. Disney just mining ABC's history. I know, yeah, because they own it. We own that sound. Let's put it on the ride.

Which ride's going to get step by step, you know? One of them will. So, yeah, that's weird. But yeah, this is just old janky robots and it's really fun. Both of them are really fun. That's great. You got a Dracula's like, he's like up in a tower outside. Yes, that's one.

For I remember it, like opens up and he comes out. Like the shutters open. Those are both really, really fun. He looks, and I mean this, he looks so janky in his little tower, but I mean that as a complex. Yes, yes. I like him so much more than what Disney just did. Sometimes you want janky and it, sometimes you don't want the ride to be like, certainly I don't want it to be modern.

You also don't want it to be like in on the, in on the joke or trying to be cool, you know? Yeah. Part of theme park experience is for teenagers and saying, oh, it's serenny, but is, like, you know, cracking jokes about how bad something looks sometimes. Sometimes that's nice. Sometimes that's not, it's not a bad thing. Like, it gives you something to talk about. Disney's never going to make a, like, it's all going to be, like, cool-looking modern, I mean, I guess not cool looking if we don't like this weird digital face. It'll be all slick.

It'll be slick. Like, they'll never build something. I said this before, like, they're never going to build, like, a sea ticket that looks kind of bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There is some Disneyland commercial that was airing during AEW this past week. And it's just about how it's the largest employer in Orange County and like, you know, a big employer in Southern California.

And I'm like, what sinister justification is there for this ad? Like, because I don't, it didn't really say anything. It just showed like people like making towel mickeys in the hotel or sweeping up or. It wasn't law. You're saying it was lobbying for something? Yeah, I was like, oh, what are they lobbying for? You're trying to sell me on something here. Yeah.

What do you're? Are you trying to build a data center? What do we have to? It kind of had that feeling of like, yeah. They have a blank check from the city. I don't know what else they would need. So, yeah, I don't know. Just a couple quick hits.

Did you go on the white roller coaster, the big one? I didn't. That's the fun. Is that the old one? The old one. That one does scare me. That feels janky as hell, and it's what's fun about it is you're like, this thing's going to, they probably have reinforced it now,

but when we were growing up, it really felt like this thing's going to collapse under us. And that was the fun of it. Yeah, then Wood coaster at knots, which is fun and I'll go on it once every two years. Just feel like it's out of control. Yes.

It does feel crazy. Like it rattles? Yeah. Yeah, we wrote that together. One of the scariest coasts I ever ridden. Yeah, it is scary. And I did it a year or two ago. Or no, maybe it did it last year.

just like that's where yeah that's where I had pin I had my hand pinned because I was trying to grab my phone to move it and then we there was such force I was like my hand was pinned in between my body and the ride vehicle and I was like am I going to break a finger on this yeah I always was able to wear my glasses on wooden coasters not that one I'd hold them down on that one yeah no that one's wild so I didn't do that probably out of fear but also I would have done more if we had had more time. We had done, just real quick,

I went on like a dragon coaster with my daughter and it was very low to the ground. Is it the puff? It was puff, yes, thank you. Classic, been there for years. So you've been on puff.

Oh, I went out as a child until I could start riding the bigger ride. Well, when you're six three and for whatever reason you sit at an angle and ride vehicle seats are in an angle, sometimes you get stapled really badly.

Which means this is an insider term we learned a couple years ago now, that when they put that lap bar down and it crushes your genitals, that's called stapling. And I'm the victim of stapling a lot. I think it's the tallness. It is nothing to do with some unusual anatomy of mine. I'm just like I'm not, it's not crazy. It's a normal.

I think you should put your anatomy on your Patreon and let your listeners decide. That's a whole different service. That's a different stapling. That's a different thing. Let me tell you, the feet tier is not doing well. Jason's feet. Yeah, it's just mine. It's only 10.

And every, all the comments are like, this guy clips his nails way too low. That's going to hurt. And my reply is always like, yeah, I know, but I can't help it for some reason. Jason clipping his nails is a tier. That's part of the tier, though, is that Jason will respond to every comment. Yeah, he will, yeah. He did say himself. Most of it's just I know.

Yes, I'm seeing a doctor. Yeah, a great job detecting. Yes, I've had that since I was six. Yes. I know. So, yeah, we did that. I got stapled so badly that I had to say, uh,

please can you release the bars? I need to get situated again. Wow. I was in such discomfort. Wow, you had to say something. I almost didn't. And at a park where people are timid to be so asking.

anything. I almost didn't and it was he was annoyed and the whole everybody in the so everybody had to have that happen. Yeah. He had to hit a button that we all popped up and he had to redo it down the line. We were in the front car and I had to be like sheepishly be like so I'm sorry. Was this the kind of bar with the metal in the middle or just the simple two ends with the with the horizontal one lap bar? Honestly, I think it was just one big one over both of us. Oh, okay.

I think. I could be wrong about that. But yeah, I was, I had like a mild like, like, please, like I almost didn't do it. But then I was like, you're going to be feeling really weird for the 60 seconds this ride takes. So I did it. I had to resituate himself. And I got, it was better the second time. I had learned how not to be stapled.

Did your daughter ask what was going on? What's going on? No, she was, I mean, maybe she did. Honestly, I can't remember. She just kicked you in the face. She just elbowed you And she often like It's funny to beat up daddy

She does think it's funny to beat up daddy Her clothes are haunted and now this We live in a haunted house Daddy daddy it feels like you with some irrational fears I hope you don't pass them on to me In a generational trauma She says that before bed every night He's like nonsense

When have you ever seen any generational fears Transpire? Certainly not in the car about a roller coaster. And as we were going in, I sat, she sat on the outside. My daughter sat on the outside. And I sat on the inside and I saw a sign as we're getting on that says like kids under

a certain height should sit inside. So the opposite of how we sat. Oh. And I'm like, I don't know. I guess it's probably fine. It's not a big deal. So we start going and that thing goes fast.

It is a real fast spin. And we're going and everything's fine. It's just it's so fast. that I'm like looking at my daughter, I'm like, does she like this or not? I can't quite tell because it's a little too much. And again, I'm not like so worried. I'm just like, maybe she's not going to like this. I think this is too intense.

And all of a sudden, her leg, like the force pops like her leg kind of out of the ride vehicle. And I went out like, like I reach over and I pull her leg back in and I go, oh shit, that's a, that's a warning for a reason. There's a warning And the teen didn't go Hey, let your small child They should be like

You need to switch it Yeah But at first I'm like Oh that must not be that big of a deal Or maybe for a little or a kid or whatever And I'm like no She like started sliding out of the thing And I was like oh God

I was sure enough that like the operators And my parents were like you in first You don't sit on the outside And I never quite got an explanation of why It's because like you And now I kind of know The wall yeah So no I made a mistake

there. It was not so much, but my daughter will now tell the story of like, I almost I fell out of the ride. Oh, she fell out of the ride. And Daddy pulled me back. Daddy saved me. Okay. That's got to feel good. So she likes this. I think she likes the story. And then she claims she really liked

the ride, even though it was a crazy fast ride. But she had a ball. She was running all the kids rides and there was one squirting water and she really liked it because I got hit in the crotch at one with water. Oh, that too? Yeah, so I got hit by the bar.

I got hit in the bar and I got put some water. Keeping up the lie, right? Daddy, that really reactivated the uric acid on your band. So yeah, I got hit with a burst of water and she wanted to tell mommy like, Daddy got hit in the groin with water. She thought that was really good.

And that's one of, when you talk about Lagoon, that's one of her memories is the water that shot us and hit us with water. She went in twice. So I forget Mommy, maybe it got hit in the head with water and I get hit in the groin. So that's a fun little story. They had punishment. Yeah, yeah.

Um, so yeah, I mean, we, we had a real, a real good time. Dave, do you have any,

Dave, do you have any, like, childhood's story? Do you remember, like, I don't, I wish I did have like something. It's just,

teen angst or anything. No, because I was the kind of little kid that, and I think it's because I was short and not cool that like, this is funny. I'm going to bring my wife into this, because we were talking about this.

We both had like dreams as like, nerdy, like, not full loners, but just nerdy kids that weren't, like I at least I Beth maybe more than me but I never dated a girl or did like early adolescence like kissing or anything until I was like way in the end of high school and I got

oh boy that's so different than the three of us yeah yeah yeah it's interesting to hear a fresh perspective I assume so go but I just like hanging out there a lot by myself or family and just trying to get away from them to do do my own thing or like come back at it's a high school and do it but I would always be like look at other cool kids with girls and be like I want to be up on the whatever I forget what it's called. It was the skyride. Oh yeah. I'd love to sit in one another with a girl but never happened.

I think every like most kids like would be at a theme park and be like maybe today I'll fall in love. Yeah. Maybe that will happen finally and it'll be some sort of magic thing. I go to the local pool is like today the girl's going to fall in love of me? Today's the day that they're a stranger. You hit you connect with a stranger so hard.

Yes. Just with no information. we are yeah yeah you're just off on a romp room that a stranger will come over and do all of the work yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah completely the flirting make you feel comfortable that's right i mean what i mean i don't know if i have any like stories other than my mom when we went to laguna beach i remember one of the visits my mom probably if i would guess in her 50s at this point we went on one of those the skinny like really fast skinny um water slides right and i remember her heard going on it and her just immediately getting off and going, that gave me an enema.

That's why they have you cross your legs. So it would have been a viable thing to say about the coaster that you Yeah, no, it sounded similar to what my situation is with Woodford. Before I knew it, I had an enema. They had a lot of old classic carnival rides, but I'm assuming they're mostly gone now. Like they had the magic carpet. They have a lot of stuff like that That like yeah would swing up and around

And then my sister's favorite ride Was this was Colossus But then she loved tidal wave Which is the boat And has a I love tidal wave You can look up tidal wave Just the design of the octopus In the logo on the boat

It's one of those ones where it's like a pendulum Yes yes I really liked that one But I remember specifically my sister Loving those And then there was a one called Screamer That I loved Which it's like a

you're in these little like cages essentially like boxes but they're open on both sides you just slide it like bars to lock you in and it spins that like how that one might not be there and then it tilts up on its side so then you're going upside down part of it now so it goes back

and I loved that that was really fun yeah that one looks like it's gone the other one's still there tidal wave is still dead I think Tyler that I love the logo I think the logo with the octopus is but a lot of yeah a lot of a lot of it feels like old kids rides. Yeah. Been there forever.

Exactly. A lot of just spinning in a circle rides. How much was a ticket, by the way? It wasn't so cheap. Yeah, I was like, I think it's probably a little too much now, but like... It definitely, like, if you get an annual pass and... Yeah. I know my nephew's getting an annual pass.

It's like $90 to go there, which is a little pricey. It seems too much for them. A little pricey, yeah. There's some deals, though. Exactly right. That's what I'm seeing. Okay. There's like some deals to, like, certain day of the week or something.

Save by buying online. Ticket not valid for fright mares. Yeah. Did you ever go to fright mares? Probably not because you don't like, hell no. You don't want to have fright mares. Well, if I would, no, again, yeah, I would avoid. I would avoid that.

I hate, I'm not, I'm telling you. The truth, I hate, I do not enjoy a high house. It is, well, we'll get you there. It is a, I don't know if you will. It is a, it is, uh, it is, uh, it is, uh, every time like me. Well, that's true. You can't get a guest light him and do improv, though.

So he sees more of me lately. That's true. He's going to be like, I have an improv show, and he'll give me the address and I show up, and it's just universal city. It's in universal city. I'm going to go through a metal detector before I got to the same prom. It's at 666 Transylvania Avenue.

Wow. I guess we're performing for some ghouls. The improup show logo looks strangely like the strangers thing. Yeah, but anyway, like, I wish we had more time to do this place and I would, we're going to go back, I think, eventually. I don't know if we'll do the full road trip, but maybe we'll, to Montana. But, yeah. I have people you can probably stay with and I'm just saying.

Let them know I'm coming. Hotels are better. Set their bedrooms up. And that's just my, that's an offer for Mike. That doesn't apply to our listeners as well. Yeah. You got to find a hotel. When you initially were going, I was like, oh, I love the Lagoon logo.

Maybe you can pick me up a T-shirt, and then you reveal, like, no, six family members are going on the road trip, two cars. I was like, oh, you're doing like a full family band kind of road trip. Never might. So I thought it was just you and Lindsay. And it's like, oh, he can swing by and get me a shirt. And I'm like, oh, no, he's not got a rangle. Don't let him off the hook. He can fit a shirt in his car.

I could have for the shirt in my car. I didn't, but I could have. That wasn't, that's not so crazy to get a shirt for you. Yeah. Well, but you had a lot of concerns and timing and stuff. Sure. Yeah, but this guy's always, nobody has more concerns than this guy.

That doesn't let him off the hook either. Call me Mr. Concern. Could you tell if they let you bring in outside food? I think they did. I mean, there was no metal detector or anything, so like nobody cared. I brought in a couple guns. next time I visit Utah and me and my wife going.

But I want to maybe bring in like sneak in some like a beer. That's not a problem. I don't think. I don't think anyone cared. I think with modern dietary restrictions, most parks are not like disallowing food and drink. Oh, that makes sense. Oh, yeah.

I have to have a beer all die today. And the most scared teenager. I just don't yell at me again. You don't ask me where the coffee is. I don't know what the out-of-state people do. Call the police on you. Well, this was a delight. I'm glad you had some fun there.

I'm glad you got it on-the-ground perspective, and I'm glad you didn't bring any of the scary dolls with you. If I could, I would. Thank God they were behind glass. And as for you, Dave Christensen, you survived podcast, The Ride. Thank you for joining us. You did it.

That's the most exciting. Nobody ever gives it that much energy. Yeah, it's true. She was supposed to feel like you went on a ride and you conquered it. And that was the best response to that. I would say being in a room with you three was a wild ride and it was a fun wild ride. Oh, great. Thanks for doing it.

Thanks for doing it. Exit through the gift shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug? Just want more for me. Just follow the dumb Instagram at Hobbit 138. Everything at like my improv shows or my, when I'm teaching. We're doing improv on the 14th of August and Glendale. I've been doing a show called your part of Mike shows.

Improv Land Theme Park Improv basically Is it brought it up In the show? No, never on an episode yet. There we go. I really think we're like

we're in a good groove too lately with it. Oh good. It's a great show. The audience tells stories or gives opinions about theme parks and then we do scenes based on it. It's fun. People are seeming to enjoy it.

It's in a beautiful downtown Glendale. Beautiful next to the Americana basically. Across the street from Americana. And very near the look cinema. Near the look cinema. Across from Friar Tucks if you want to find. Tuxedo.

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