Podcast: The Ride - Monsters, Inc. Mike & Sulley To The Rescue! with Oscar Montoya

Episode Date: January 29, 2021

Oscar Montoya (Inside The Disney Vault, Podcast Killed The Video Star) joins us to discuss getting into the parks as an adult and the Monsters, Inc. ride built on the bones of Superstar Limo. Gripes Form: https://bit.ly/2L1t4ZH Jurassic Quest with Nick Mundy episode up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever. Dog. Warning, the following podcast is reconstructed from the bones of our Superstar Limo episode. It also contains further arguments over cuteness, top Disney vocalist Huey Lewis, and ham in the pool? Oscar Montoya joins us to talk Monsters, Inc., Mike and Sully to the rescue on today's podcast, The Ride, the only theme park podcast that emits a very faint hint of ginger at the top of every episode. I'm Jason Sheridan, joined as always by Mike Carlson. Yes, I'm here. I'm Mike Carlson. I insist, though, that this holiday we emit a gingerbread smell but i am happy with the ginger

most of the year sure yeah it's a palate cleanser most of the year and then it'll just be an assault of like holiday themed baked goods yeah like two or three months at the end of the year strongest artificial gingerbread smell possible is what i like that's my personal taste so i would appreciate it if we do it but anyway let's see what smells Scott Gairdner would like to hear or hear smell. Jesus, I'm losing my mind. Whoa. How long have we been locked in our apartment hearing smells? Oh, man. Oh, I'm high, man. Trippy idea, dude. Yeah, I know like uh you should really dove in around the holiday

should have like grinded up a bunch of gingerbread cookies and just dove in that would have been a nice christmas if you got to spend christmas alone then just like scar facing a pile of ground up gingerbreads one way to do it that is such a honestly maybe i'm in the minority here but as a kid fantasy and maybe it starts from duck tales but diving into just anything that's not water is such a like it sounds like such an exciting fun thing obviously not something that would hurt you like coins but the idea that you could like swim in cookies or in i don't know i'm trying to think like uh whipped cream or candy like as a kid i think I'm trying to think, like whipped cream or candy. Like as a kid, I think I always wanted to do something like that.

But it's very impractical. Do you guys share this feeling or am I alone? Am I a weirdo? Well, you want to do the ultimate version of it where it doesn't start to get gross or inconsistent really quickly. Or the material doesn't break to get gross or inconsistent really quickly or like the material doesn't like break apart immediately after the dive if there's cartoon logic behind it then sure i was just what i flashed to when you said that i think one of the things i miss in pandemic the most is like chips and salsa at a mexican restaurant but i don't know if i really want

to swim in salsa so maybe if i could swim in the chips and just kind of bite them wherever i go and then release salsa um through some sort of like water gun situation so that i could like you know it's just little spurts because i think the swimming in salsa would maybe get a little exhausting chips wouldn't you get cut up if you dove into chips that's what i'm saying you have to apply cartoon logic, I think. Yeah, you're probably getting scratched at some point. But like, okay, Jason here, how about this scenario? It's a giant pool and they somehow figure out a way to cook a brownie inside of it.

So it's a giant brownie-filled pool. Would you dive in in because that would be soft and then you could eat your way out would I dive into a solid object yeah but it's a brownie it's soft it's a soft brownie I think that would still injure if it was angel food cake

I think you could get away with it but I think the impact of the brownie let's bring our guest in because he's nodding along he's one of the hosts of the inside the disney vault podcast and the podcast podcast killed the video star oscar montoya is here hi oscar hey hey hi hi that's a that's a really good question i do agree angel angel uh angel cake angel food cake yeah because angel cake is not a thing that doesn't exist what is angel cake uh angel food cake that is i think that might be the correct answer here for a soft

like landing in some kind of a yeah non-water dive yeah no who no no no no no we're we're we're jumping into food and i think the thing is like i would want to dive into cartoon food there's nothing more delicious than cartoon ham if you know exactly what i'm talking about the look of cartoon ham is like so delicious i would love to dive into a pool full of cartoon hams and just munch my way i like the idea of this a lot um but would the hams be like full kind of intact hams that you would buy they're not like cold cut the uh deli sliced no not sliced ham like full ham i don't know what body part that is of a pig but i mean it's it's probably every body part of the pig but it's those you know it's like that dark reddish exterior and the soft pink interior also the consistency of cartoon food or just

cartoon stuff like if we were living in a roger rabbit world where it's like we have our live action selves and then cartoon selves the cartoon people would have like this rubbery consistency like very soft rubbery consistency right oh do you think am i crazy and people like the way they've disney's decided in toontown the cartoon things are sort of soft and foamy do you think the people would also be similarly soft and foamy like the cartoon people i think so well they're flex i mean obviously they're flexible because like yeah they get hit this if an anvil shoots at their stomach it bounces past and then they can yeah so i think they would have to be yeah they would have to be flexible in some way they would have to be soft in some way um that makes sense because they they can't like feel like

flesh and fleshy because they don't have flesh right no not like a muscle yeah that makes a lot of sense yeah mickey mouse i don't imagine having muscle and sinew doesn't feel right right or like fur even though he's a mouse like i know it's not quite like maybe a little bit of like a little like frosting of fur, just like a little smattering. But it's not like it's not like hair, like our hair. It's not like an inch of hair. No, I think the Looney Tunes are furry or like fur and feathers. I feel like I get that from the Looney Tunes a little.

But the Disney base is so classic inkblot-y, hanging around from early days of animation. I think soft would be right, because if you suddenly touched Goofy and it felt like a human man, it would be like, oh, this is not... That's weird. Yeah, this is weird.

So what you're saying is, if you touched Daffy Duck, it would feel different than touching Donald Duck? Whoa. What's the difference here? I guess I am saying that. Daffy doesn't wear any clothes either. He just has that one dignified collar.

I think it depends what versions of the characters we're talking about because the new Mickey cartoons, there's a red and stimpy-ish thing they do sometimes where they give a very close-up face, a close-up shot of the face. Where you can see detail and bloodshotness and skin. And I feel like that might be the most, if you were to enter that frame of the cartoon and you touched it would be the closest to maybe a human being but other than that it would be what you're describing like a rubber a rubbery feeling perhaps right so i think it all depends because cartoon logic changes so often so sometimes you touch mickey it feels like oh a cartoon it's like a bouncy house and then sometimes you touch him and it's like a decaying old man oh no it all depends mickey's it all depends mickey's well in the instance when they

show a close-up of mickey and he's freaking out and his eyes are big and you can see like his skin you can see what's happening i think that's that's when that might but then are we talking about the same mickey though like is is the classic mickey that we all know and love the same as this like new reiteration of Mickey, just like at a different time period? Or is it like alternate dimension version? Yes. I think it's a multiverse. I believe there's a multiverse of characters because they, we've seen different versions

of the Mickey characters. We've seen different versions of Looney Tunes. There's been different types of drawings with them so yeah like in DC Comics for instance they call different Earths Earth 1, Earth 2 that's right in the Mickey multiverse there has to be

like an Earth 3 which is the new version of the cartoons and that's we're giving it away Into the Mickeyverse is a billion dollar movie yes you're right about that honestly cartoons and they're that's we're giving it away we're giving it away for into the mickey verse is a billion dollar movie yes you're right about that honestly because then one of the mickey verses is just in theme park characters oh interesting that look like the ones you see there and those they have their own world and lifestyle and they obviously feel more like felt interesting so okay so would one so if we're

making this film i would say franchise because we are by the way we are making this blue sky would one of the mickeys in the mickey verse would it be an actor inside of a mickey suit yes yeah it would be like the disneyland it would be like uh and i think generally because it's uh mickey needs to be on the shorter side i think it's often a lady that plays mickey oh interesting so yeah maybe the whole narrative could be like wait but i'm not mickey i'm what like wendy right uh and they're like no you're you've been sucked into this machine of mickey so you must be Mickey. And then it's her journey of like realizing that the Mickey was inside her

and not outside of her. Right. This whole time. Is a, is a Mickey shaped pancake part of this? Can there be a plot arc involving a Mickey pancake? I think it makes a cameo, but I don't think it's part of the main.

It's not enough. At the same, I mean, one coming to life and having thoughts and feelings would be pretty fascinating. it makes a cameo but i don't think it's part of the main enough at the same well i mean one coming to life and having thoughts and feelings would be pretty fascinating it's true it's like spider ham it's like the john mulaney spider ham is not the star of the movie get some good good moments some good set pieces yeah yeah sort of side right yes i like that um but auger you're here today we're not talking the mickey versus that we're talking it's the monster verse it's your friends and monsters inc monsters inc

sorry i want to say it with all the punctuation because i think this might be the theme park attraction maybe it's up there with most punctuation in it monsters comma inc period mike ampersand solely to the rescue exclamation point. So you got four kinds of punctuation in there. Yeah, this failed a grammar test. I feel like. It's like jockeying with

it might have been in the lead and then Guardians of the Galaxy mission breakout might be challenging it now because I feel like you've got a colon in there I think there's a dash in there as well don't forget disaster exclamation point

colon a major motion picture ride dot dot dot starring you exclamation point I get the game word for it I think that's really the that's where you take the cake yeah yeah no one's topped i don't think anything tops four right we haven't found one yet someday i think four four yeah somebody

all yeah somebody will point out it's got to be one somewhere but yeah the big chance we as has been acknowledged online the big chance i think is however they renamed splash mountain to be about princess and the frog i think it's possible it might break five but uh we don't know the name yet so we're uh waiting with bated breath splash yeah yeah slash mountain tiana's journey dash dig a little deeper exclamation point double dash a little deeper yeah that's gotta be in there right that's the big that is definitely in there it just feels like a warning like a passive aggressive like warning to the writers like come on dudes dig a little deeper have a little more fun on this ride yeah um oscar i think uh initially when i when i asked you to be on the show

you said have you done superstar limbo and the timing had worked out where i was like yes literally a week ago Superstar Limo but this is a close I mean this is like the reincarnated version of the revolution in the Superstar Limo multiverse

this is a different world it's so because it's similar but it's obviously something different happens so this is Earth 2 Superstar Limo is Earth 1 let me ask you this who would get top billing okay in in this uh hoof i mean it could be funny man tim allen it could be uh it could be the stars the hollywood, Antonio Banderas and Melanie Griffith. Maybe in a way Jackie Chan is the biggest star depicted in that ride. Maybe like in terms of.

Wasn't Regis Feldman one of those people? Regis was the very first star I think you see leaning out a door like waggling money at you. What a ride. What a ride. he's luring you over with money you you were you had some superstar limo fascination oscar yes i did i've you know i have to say i've never been on the actual ride but i have seen videos of it i watched the video maybe once, twice every month. Whoa. Sure. And I show my friends. Because I don't, what year did that ride come out? Because not a lot of people remember that ride. Right.

2001. It was opened with California Adventure in 2001. Right. Yeah. And it was such a weird, it was just like a weird question mark. And of course it wasn't going to be evergreen were they planning to update it every what five years six years like there was could you imagine still going on that right i mean i would love it in 2021 to still do a ride 20 years ago you know

like that would be such a fun time time capsule for me but i don't think people would be down for that weren't even relevant stars all of them at the time let alone 2001 yeah so it'd be extremely bizarre if it stayed but but also like is there is there a celebrity that's still relevant today that was on that ride i think jackie chan worldwide i don't think jackie chan has ever like retired i think he's still making movie i don't know i think he's made a lot uh more movies in asia than america recently but i think he still has the name recognition i mean drew carrey hosts the price is right every day just from sheer like how often are you in media, I think it would be Drew Carey. But he looks, especially now, much different. Totally different. And now the beard is radically different.

So they'd have to add that. Well, Tim Allen is like, he's been on that news show for like 10 years, I feel like, too. Hey, which speaking of multiverses. Oh, that's true you know that uh there was an episode of that show where whoever the hell he plays on last man standing meets tim the tool man taylor yes i saw an image i yeah i like it too explain that to me i don't i don't i don't know last man standing he runs a you know fishing and tackle shop but also is a famous vlogger for his crankiness i believe is this

jason you know far more than i thought you would i i think that's all that is is mostly what i know and that it jumped from like abc to fox and i is it still going on fox or did it finally it's wrapping up no i think it's it's on the way out, but it's still airing. But it's still airing. Yeah. But so I had to look up the character. Tim Allen on that show plays Mike Baxter. And through some justification that I don't know offhand, perhaps another multiverse, the Timiverse, Mike Baxter meets Tim the Toolman Taylor, the character from Home Improvement. And there are scenes with two Tim Allens talking to each other

like he's managed to which I'm almost impressed by Tim Allen's acting prowess to be able to go who is Tim Taylor as opposed to Tim Allen because you'd think it's the same thing but I think what he does is kind of dial up the gruffness and you know he's sort of in this zone a little more

and the which Prino was that's the persona not uh tim allen the man so you know i love this kind of horseshit this is like tgif i i wish things were this it's very tgif you're right yeah yeah weird yeah crossovers and they did that all the time in the 90s they had huge crossover events like nbc had those like weird like yearly crossover shows oh yeah all of their programming yes the blackout that's what it's called uh in what was that friend seinfeld uh what's the show with um he was he's uh ted danson show becker becker yeah yes it was a cbs and then i think i don't know if that would have been in the black with cbs oh wait no okay oh was it oh it wasn't boston common i think that

was wait are you saying that all the shows experienced a blackout on the same night yeah so all the shit yeah must see tv this back when like must see tv thursday there there was block before shows all four shows were i believe took place in new york and there was a blackout and so they all made sense i think they all made sense on their own but they all had to work the blackout in in some i got it i got the list and there's no way i could help you guess one of them. You will never, ever guess the other one. Really? Okay, so similar to Seinfeld a little bit, like Stand Up Vehicle also lives in New York.

They all have to be in New York to make this work. NBC, sitcom star, in 94 is when this was. Can you think of what that is? Is the show named after the comedian? Hmm. It's kind of a two-hander, but one of them is sort of Seinfeld esque okay say oh it's not that guy who I always know the name it's not one of the Dabney Coleman show wait how did you got that one not the other this is what show oh my god I was it? Oh, my God.

I was going for Mad About You, a very popular show. Mad About You. You're talking. Wait, what was the show that you said, Jason? Do you know the name of the show? I don't remember. What was it called? The show is called, wait, my internet's blanking.

Mad Man of the People, starring Dabney Coleman. I don't remember the show at all. I just remember Dabney Coleman, I don't remember the show at all. I just remember Dabney Coleman an actor I barely remember. I remember the name from the 90s and I feel like I was talking about it to you guys of like, you know Dabney Coleman

had two different sitcoms back in the past. Wow. Now I need to Google search and see what he looks like uh he's he was in a lot of kids movies i'm trying to think what the what the bigger with you know the beverly hillbillies or uh tootsie he's he's in night isn't he the boss in nine to five yeah yeah yeah i think that was the biggest one sort of looks like dr. Phil in this picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, sometimes he does.

Oh, Clifford. He's in Clifford. There you go. Oh, he's in the Towering Inferno. Okay, yes. I remember him. He's everywhere. He should have been on Superstar Limo.

Yeah. Put Dabney Coleman. Everyone's favorite Dabney Coleman. The ride would have still been there. It should have been renamed the Dabney Coleman Experience. Yeah. It's just like how they get into the blackout it's three of the biggest shows ever and then madman of the people gets to coast on the wave of the blackout that's what i i was like it's not net and stacy it's not boston common and it was just

out of madness this is some of the most obscure trivia I feel despite being network TV. As a very young, nerdy tween, one of my favorite things to do in the summer was to watch this programming block that USA Network aired called, I think it was either Prime Time in the AM or PM in the AM am and they would show sit and so it was like wings ned and stacy uh it was all like sitcoms that could stacy

that was tom yeah thomas hayden church and deborah messing it went like two two and a half seasons and it was before sideways and before will and grace um but that was that was what i liked that was what i i evolved from muppet babies rewinds to watching that did you watch usa up all night as well jason i don't remember usa up all night i really i would just turn on comedy central and watch whatever what was on for hours so absolutely fabulous for many many hours in a row that's what i remember i and i didn't understand any of it i did not remember i did not understand the ucb show uh sitcom sketch show the original one when it was on i did not understand uh viva variety it was all... I got Kids in the Hall, but like the others, I was just like, what? What's Viva Variety?

That was a bunch of the Reno 911 and state people. Oh, okay. Yeah. They did a lot of those, too. I think they ran... There's more episodes of that than there is of the state. I think that's right. Exit 57 was the other one.

That was them, too, I think. Can I say the strange fact also that Dabney Coleman's Madman of the People was frequently directed by Monsters, Inc. actor John Ratzenberger? No. That's right. Who shows up in this ride? There is an appearance. His character from Monsters, Inc., the Yeti.

He's a very fun little thing. Makes an appearance. That's a delightful little door that opens up. And I guess that gets us out of the territory of viva variety i think that but oscar you're a star just like the uh riders just like the guests at the end of superstar limo so something comes back around feel free to you know don't hold yourself back so i oscar do you how do you like monsters inc the film you covered it i'm sure at this point on your shows yeah i love monsters inc but i love monsters university far more than i like monsters

inc and that was that was an unexpected surprise for me when i um covered it on the podcast because prequels are always to me a bit of a miss because it's like why do we have to do this why do we have to go back like it doesn't make any sense but to me it hit harder Monsters especially with Mike Wazowski storyline and it's really have you

guys seen Monsters University yeah I thought it was really charming I loved it yeah it was great yeah it's very charming yeah but Monsters Inc is great yeah so both you'll be fans of both but the second one is your preference the second one is a slapper as they say yes the second one

in the theme park world I think of the second one as like around the time it came out and right after those Monsters U hats just became immediately bestsellers the merch in all the theme parks right you know the aesthetic but no ride yet for monsters you know i guess yeah to flip it into its own thing this should just open a monsters an actual university in the disneyland resort like a full credit at school uh yeah sure and

it's like as expensive and they also have their own loan program because they already have it for the annual passes. So they can do sort of like predatory loans to people who just want to be in Disney all day. This is a potential money. Hey, listen, Disney, if you're listening, which I know you are. Oh, yeah. This is potentially a money grabbing thing.

Literal predator. They listen to predatory loans. Because he's a monster. Yeah. grab in thing literal predator predatory loans because he's a monster yeah i mean for a while in the 90s into the 2000s you could go to something called the disney institute at walt disney world and that was i mean man we have oh man we should do a disney institute episode that thing was so you definitely should because it's some it's a weird part of disney history it is yeah it's very strong i mean michael eisner went to some adult retreat sort of thing and he's like we

gotta make some we could make money on this uh we could do that shit classes and that is pretty much long gone at this point i think there's still like uh you know business professional classes and education workshops you can do. Oscar, the fact that you know Superstar Limo and the Disney Institute, you know some of the strangest, weirdest ends of Disney lore. Any other that you're fond of, bizarre corners of the of the disneyverse

for me i mean that it was what's the i don't see i'm not very familiar with disney while disney world like disney world i don't really know at all um disneyland is what i've been obsessed with and it started when i moved to uh california because i was not really a disney person at all when i lived in new york and when i moved to la all these grown-ass adults were so obsessed with disney and i was sort of weirded out by it i didn't get it i was like what it could be a lot deal it could be certainly a lot at first uh 100 yeah at first because listen in new york we're not close to the park so we don't have that sort of like you know foaming at the mouth passionate uh drive that these disney

adults have uh so i was very scared and also i was um i was born and raised in columbia so i was like kind of really unfamiliar with disney movies and like that whole thing i like missed all of that so um yeah i was like i don't i don't really get it and my friend claire and co-host of inside the disney vault um she was like well have you been to the parks and i'm like no no isn't that for children and uh she's like no i'll take you so she she took me and it truly was, it was incredible. It was like, what? I got it. I got it at that point.

I was like, oh, there's magic here. There's like actual magic here. And then I become obsessed. Is this in the 20s? Is this like later for you a little bit? This was five years ago. Oh my God. So this is possible to be a total late bloomer with all this stuff.

Oh yeah. Yeah. In your adult adult i'm interested in your adult years what were the things that really made you go like oh wow i get here's this is the thing these are the things that people say they like yeah i mean it was the like to me the dark rides have always been like for me the reason to go to disneyland you know i'm not a roller coaster person or like a wild like six flags hell no i got nauseous at the freaking wiley coyote ride the children's ride i was like i ain't doing this shit no more no um and disneyland had like just enough excitement for me that made me feel like a sort of badass like space mountain is a child's ride but i feel like that's probably like the threshold for me as far as uh thrills go you know but it's aesthetically so thought out incredibly well like really really put together and the details it's the little

details that i was super impressed with. Yeah, that I was just like, oh, there's like so much history here. And there's so, like, I can keep coming back and discover new things, you know? That's what I fell in love with. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. That is. It's beautiful to hear.

I mean, we talk about detail. I would say this is a details-oriented podcast. I would say that. So, yeah yeah that makes a lot of sense whether it's the pinocchio ride or madman of the people with dabney coleman with the details that we but also the thing that i'll say too about disneyland that i really like is how creepy it is like specifically when it comes to the dark rides i mean yeah you go to you go to hell in you know like what what a shot like what a surprise like kids did that all the time and like didn't even blink an eye like how creepy some of these rides are the pinocchio ride terrifying terrifying there is yeah and there is an aspect and i there is an aspect to some of the rides where you do

feel like there's a little like hauntedness to them because there's an old smell that smells old. It's some sort of building material that they don't use anymore. So it smells like your grandmother's house maybe. And there are, you can like feel like, you can feel like the ghost, you can feel like a Walt's ghost just being like, Hey, have fun out there. Like I feel like that's there. Also something being like hey have fun out there like i feel like that's yeah and also something so like uh popcorn and rainbows looking i mean it's got to have a secret dark past you

know what i mean there's got to be a lot of nasty underneath all that like pretty paint you know sure of course that's why i love it yeah if it's been around a long time yes yes, for sure. Well, this attraction, I think, Monsters, Inc., feels like kind of an advanced version of the dark rides. It has some things in common with them, with the Fantasyland rides. Specifically, there is the... I've certainly seen it as a complaint or criticism about it, that the characters, they aren't full animatronics their mouths don't move but it is in that sense a throwback to you know your Alice in Wonderland or your Mr. Toads um you know where there is a suspension

of disbelief and not every one of them is you know does the the full thing but you're still I don't know you can still get caught up in it like i it's not a requirement for me that they all have yeah and i think it honors the uh vibe of a dark ride while adding a layer of polish to it you know what i mean it's not like an insanely uh you know still feels like a dark ride you know which i like i like i like the animatronic look to it but you know the the robots moves like smoother there's like it's like prettier brighter you know but it's still still it still works yeah yeah it's it's yeah sorry go ahead jason oh i was gonna say yeah it's got like you know mid 2000 it's got a newer technological base early 2000 then like the uh base the original fantasy land rides have been

kind of redone so many uh uh times uh this this has only been redone uh once i'm sure they've done basic maintenance to it but it went from uh you know superstar limbo which barely lasted uh two years. Didn't even make it that long. They at least wanted to yank it so fast. If you want to, like, you know, we did a whole episode about it, which you can listen to, so not to re-cover any of it, but just to lay it all out. When California Adventure opened, there was this one dark ride that was like a current pop culture snarky holly weird sort of vibe that was just instantly greeted as the with with like the

worst feedback that any ride ever has gotten out of the gate um probably even more so there's rides i think people dislike more people this bad figment ride always comes up but like it wasn't that that was never reviewed by the newspaper like i feel like superstar limo got in trouble because wow disneyland opened up a whole new park what's it all about oh my god it sucks like this ride just like got all the stink of the early uh bad pr um so they had to get it out of there ASAP though though Oscar I'm sure you wish you could have experienced it oh god yes but I will say even for 2001 it the ride feels incredibly dated like it just oh yeah it expired the second it opened do you know what I mean like it's it's it what who thought of this idea who thought this was actually gonna work I love it because it's campy

and trash like that's why it's great it's fun to make fun of it yeah of course to genuinely be excited to get on that ride for real real I don't know I don't know if it has much like I don't know if there's a person genuinely when when Monsters Inc opened too there was also like a

lack of that classic Disney dark ride in California Adventure so like yes it it filled a purpose uh that movie was a big hit so we got that that those characters into this park uh and uh yeah and it it i think it does a pretty good job of like using these horrifying bones of superstar like using the taxis with the little tv screen yeah you re blatantly reusing like putting a yellow jumpsuit on some animatronics yes yeah because as as we discovered i think or as we guessed during when we are our episode of

superstar limo like some of the the bodies and the heads are partially under there from the celebrities that's so crazy have you ever seen any of these side by side have you seen the like explanation of here's the here was the superstar limo robot and now here it is is it i haven't no i don't know what i found a bigger we showed a couple of these in a slideshow at our live show but but I found a Jim Hill Media, they did a pretty good breakdown with even more that I'd never seen. So you can see poses side by side. I didn't realize how many, I thought there were only like two or three. It's a ton of them. Here's Jackie Chan and he's kicking and hanging off a wire.

And then here is a two eyed, sort of two half heads, child detecting agency. If you don't know, that's the yellow jumpsuited characters that wear hazmat suits because everybody's afraid of children in monstropolis so you know you slap these suits on these these bones of bad wax figure not even what no wax figures look good uh these are like yeah um like the bad action figure they're like low-end action figure versions of celebrities um here's yeah it's like the time it's like the time square caricatures that you would get yeah yes like that's the that's whoever designed this proportion the resume was i made your i made five dollar caricatures in time square it boils somebody down to one interest that may or may not be an interest of theirs. Like in Drew Carey's case, maps to the star's homes.

Why? Does it make sense? So he pops out. Drew Carey would pop out and fan out all of these maps. So they replace that with, here's photos of Boo, the missing child. So he has the same gag. And he says in the ride, here's the child we're looking for they really try to hammer home the justification here's cindy crawford who looks

uber trashy in that original depiction i mean i'm scared she's especially frightening and then yeah it's just like kind of a big one one big headed spraying a bottle. I don't know. It's a decontaminant spray maybe. Here's Tim Allen with a microphone at a stand up club. That doesn't even look like Tim Allen. Not at all. No, it's like very Duracell man.

Like those weird commercials. So no longer a microphone, but now like a big sucking machine or something, but still with weird crossed legs. It's kind of this casual like men's model version of a hazmat suit. But they had to break his hands. The hands are at least tilted. They had to break the animatronics hands and reset them. And on some of them, they clearly remove the head.

Oh, you're right. Yes. Like when we go back up them off oh yeah yeah absolutely yeah replaced one head oh yeah drew carrey doesn't have a head that's right it's just a big back drew carrey's head was removed so drew carrey's body is under there in the suit but his head is somewhere else it's missing in imagineering somewhere that's frightening do you think he's wearing a i assume this is an aloha shirt do you think he's still wearing this shirt underneath the the contaminant suit i want to hope he is but i

if i had to guess i don't i think they took the shirt off and they're it's sitting in a closet somewhere in imagineering that's my guess but i'd like to think that under there is the clothes i am afraid still drew carrie if you pry off the yellow it'll just be big splotches of industrial glue, like on home renovation shows when they pull up carpet and it's like, wow, look at this beautiful hardwood under all this rubber cement. They had to pad out. If you look at the yellow suit, they obviously had to pad out the legs and arms because like for instance.

Right. the legs and arms because because like for instance um right there were uh on star tours now there are the robots that check your luggage do you know what i'm talking about that go like there there's not your luggage they test luggage and they're like yeah whatever and they're like pointing at that's a prerequisite to get on the ride you have to bring luggage yeah yeah you have to you have to check a bag uh to do it but you can see the robot has a little tail and those are like uh they were what geese on america sings they were they're originally like a bird a robot bird so i'm guessing that these aren't just exoskeletons under here but it would be funny if it was just like uh you know when the terminator is burned and it's just a

skeleton underneath underneath the yellow suit. It's possible it is. I don't know. We gotta get to the bones. We gotta see what's down there. If that's the case, I mean, I will say it's incredibly impressive that they were able to build a Monsters, Inc. ride, just like put a Monsters,

Inc. paint over this star, you know, this ride. It's pretty clever. Because it's, the ride slaps. The Monsters, Inc. ride slaps. Yeah you know, this ride. It's pretty clever. Because it's, the ride slaps. The Monsters, Inc. ride slaps. You know what I mean? It's great. It makes sense. Wow, this literal one-to-one ratio.

There's so many. It's not even all the hazmat suits. Apparently Regis Philbin turned into Randall. The chameleon steve buscemi carry that one's really hard to parse he's got money in his hands in the regis version and then it's just a weird clause yeah they did the most work and share yeah that shares just another hazmat anyway yeah so bizarre to look at these yeah they did a really seamless job i was trying to think and i haven't

been on every ride ever so i can't really make an official ruling but this is maybe like the number two redo behind like there's a ride in japan called sinbad that i love that's amazing but it was a much different ride in its first version and if you go on it now you wouldn't necessarily know that it was in this strange i mean you wouldn't know we didn't know there was a very strange version before and i think it's the same with this right if you go on monster's ink you wouldn't be like oh this is clear simbad based on the adventure or the comedian well the adventurer comedian it's not that's an idea that's another million dollar idea. It's not about... Sinbad the ride. You watch his experiences growing up, what inspired his stand-up, the colorful characters in the neighborhood that influenced his bits.

And what he's doing in his golden years. Yeah. No, believe me, I would have said that's one of the best rides ever, too, if I had gone on. Yeah, Sinbad's journey to comedy fame um the now did you guys come across i don't think we talked about this with superstar limo before but the whole so in in the timeline of it like within the first year of that ride being open it was like we have to do something we got to get people we got to get this ride out of here uh but there were other people saying we can't lose that capacity this ride does eat people even though and there's not a lot to do in this park so i don't know if it can go offline for that long can we keep the bones and do something with it

and monsters inc is what they landed on is that what monsters inc came out in what 2003 so they didn't have even have that option 2001 uh to do a ride out of uh oh what's 2001 okay all right um yes so they could have but they didn't make it there for a little bit um do you guys know about what it almost was instead of monsters oh my gosh wait was it a chicken little ride oh yeah what else tell me it was chicken little oh home on the range what that is the war i think that's the actually that's not the worst disney animated movie of all what's the worst one it's dinosaur do you remember dinosaur on this podcast well now here's a question you've seen dinosaur um do you remember when they obviously you know the main character aladar uh We all love Aladar, the primary dinosaur in Dinosaur.

The iconic, yeah, the iconic Aladar. Do you remember when Aladar is a baby? He's just born and you see him pee and fart. Do you have any recollection about how you felt about the baby version of the character Aladar? Off-putting incredibly strange oh yeah oscar look at oscar look at i hate it i hate this disgusting why why bring this up this has been a debate for what feels like a year i am apparently the only until now the only person who didn't find that to be specifically cute, the word cute, and in fact, very cute, has been used by people on the show, by much of

our audience. There's no way. Thank you, Oscar. Jason and I think that's cute. He's cute. He's cute. He's a cute little guy. Explain to me why that is cute.

He's a little guy. He's wiggling around let me bring it back up no jason no jason i'm sorry look at okay here's he no the baby aldar is farting on the bottom here and he like lets out a tooth look at his little like face like it's so maybe it's just maybe i just need to have a baby maybe that's what's ticking in my head but no look at he looks i have a baby that is like 10,000 times are satiated scott babe i have one you don't need human babies are cute this is not i don't like this because it looks like it has real it looks too much like a human and it has that weird animatronic uncanny valley vibe that i don't go Sense is being spoken on this podcast.

We've regained sanity here on podcast. Dinosaurs don't have cheeks. Yes, they do. Look at his little cheeks. There's a little sneeze when he lets out his little fart. It's so cute. He's got these little arms.

That's very cute too, the short arms with the wide body. i don't like this this was a technological marvel okay yes humans have progressed the beginning of the new century this was a trial technological marvel a technological marvel was the flying whales in fantasia 2000 that was a technological marvel And then we didn't need dinosaur. We didn't need this weird technological experiment that was dinosaur. I'm keeping this up. And we certainly didn't need Chicken Little for sure.

I'm just kind of forgotten about. I'm like conducting a little orchestra here, much like the evil Ivan Ooze. I'm like, yes, finally. God, Ivan Ooze. Yes, Oscar, keep complaining. Mike and Jason, defend yourselves. I'm happy to defend. I'm happy to throw the topic out now and do another hour.

I can't believe that. Have you seen the movie, Mike? Have you seen Dinosaur? No, I haven't. Wait, you haven't seen it? No. I forgot about that. mike got a new phone last year and he's like oh guys hey check it out i got the new iphone like sent us a screenshot and baby alice was the wall to look at it he wants to look at every day i was crazy and had to photograph had to get a second device to photograph his phone to

make sure we saw that that was the wallpaper uh lindsey lindsey my girlfriend oscar you've done her podcast many times i texted her during that time and she said yes very cute she agreed with me no lindsey i i love lindsey to death but uh this is where this is where both of you are incorrect boy this well i just want to tap out here i'm worried it's this is this is this episode is peaked for me i just need to go like i feel like i've been to the spa because okay my mike and jason do you find a lot of things cute that might be it oh because if you think that they're the aladar is cute then you might think like everything is cute i'm not a man who's afraid to call something cute like i'm i'm i would call something cute

so i i am not um opposed to the term i'm not a cute troller i believe i don't believe that i've been accused i think by scott of trolling calling people cute just for troll purposes and i don't believe i do that because there's been characters on the show and the Patreon, at least, that we've discussed that I think are not cute. And I'm not like Fuzzbucket is a movie that came out on the Disney channel. Oh, I know Fuzzbucket very well. Yes. And I hate Fuzzbucket is a little turd and I hate him.

You're just a hater, Mike. Okay, that's it. You're just a hater. I get it. Okay, a hater mike okay that's it you're just a hater i get it okay that's fine and that's okay but riff the fourth barney and friends character which is uh he's an orange turning away yeah that was a big that was a long take you you you might just like dinosaurs i think because there's oh yeah i am a dinosaur question for i have a question for all y'all okay yeah who is cuter baby aladar or boo for monsters like boo no oh okay all right thank you well i got you wait wait wait mike hasn't weighed in yet let me take a look here no this is ridiculous the way she calls she calls sully kitty and she calls mike mike wazowski i mean just to meet like immediately oh thank you yeah maybe you want to

have a kid yeah i'll say boo i'll say boo all right begr say boo. All right. Begrudgingly, seemingly. But I don't even know. You didn't want to say it. Your heart couldn't lie. I don't want to say it. I feel like I was sort of set up here in this question to make Baby Aladar look bad. But I will admit, I'm an honest, I'm not a cute troller. Nobody puts Baby Aladar in a corner. Oscar, but you think Dinosaur is a worse movie than the good dinosaur

oh my god that's a great question because they were both atrocious films um okay so the only thing that saves the good dinosaur is where they eat those berries that are hallucinogenic. And there's that like weird trippy animation that was like too short to way too short. Yeah. That's the reason why I would rank the good dinosaur higher than dinosaur. Dinosaur looked just like brown crap. Yes. Like cracked dirt is the most of that movie.

You're just looking at like sad ground that's what it is it's like weird clay it's like someone tried to do a you know claymation project and just like didn't color any of the figures good dinosaur though I didn't see dinosaur

in theaters and I would have been a kid so it's not like I could have been like let's walk out but like good dinosaur though i i didn't see dinosaur in theaters and i would have been a kid so it's not like i could have been like let's walk out but like good dinosaur was the closest i have ever been i imagine baby jason just that those are his first words that is something baby jason would say but but seeing good dinosaur i can picture sitting in the arc like Pasadena going like what's their policy of getting your money back like is it too far into the move like and I knew I think it was

probably not helped by like I knew going in they had like fired everyone from the good diner they fired the whole voice cast and they brought on new direct like it was such a debacle it was a mess so probably feeding into it. Even despite it being a hot mess,

it doesn't compare to Dinosaur, which I think is a bigger mess. I have not said it in my podcast. I said it inside the Disney Vault. I told listeners, I was like, listen, if Dinosaur is your favorite Disney movie of all time, let me know. And I've had four people reach out.

Four people thinking that dinosaur is the best disney animated movie better than aladdin better than the lion king yes better than fucking snow white and the seven dwarfs better than those movies but did you survey when they saw it like because if you see a move any movie at the right age range like and i think that's it and i think yeah I think and that's it yeah they were like I saw it at my formative years I was like okay whatever and that happens with theme park rides

yeah yes boy there's enough opinions out there for everyone to have I guess even like the most the craziest opinion you can imagine somebody has it yeah I mean if you put it out on the internet, people will, I mean, love to engage. Oh, sure.

They'll engage. More dinosaur discourse. We stepped right in it. Like an Aladar poop. Oh. No. No. I bet it's really, like, a real nice shape.

A cute shape. Oh, I bet it's really like a real nice shape, a cute shape. Oh, boy. Okay. So to back up, because I think we left it hanging where it did sound like I was saying that there was a home on the range ride proposed. I don't think that's the case. What they wanted to do, the quickest fix they could imagine for this ride was we're not going to change the vehicles. We're going to try to not change the settings if we don't have to. But we got to get these creepy celebrity animatronics out of there.

But what do you replace them with? You can't just have people go through cardboard flats. Well, wait a minute. We have just started, this is 2001, we have just started redoing all of the Disney stores in America. We're starting to gapify them. We're making them as boring as they can possibly be uh just like a big swishy d instead of like the fun characters up and because if you remember what disney stores used to be like and some of them are uh like the whole second uh layer of the store essentially

are a bunch of characters often filming a movie i think it depends store to store what it is they're doing and what characters are up there but they were starting to retire that theme and get rid of all of these not animatronics but like maquettes essentially of of all the classic characters that could turn and stuff they wanted to flood superstar limo with uh yanked disney store maquettes and call it Goofy's Superstar Limo. This was a plan on the table for a long time, and it got far enough that then head of the resort, Paul Pressler, was given an after hours tour of, at least they did part of the ride, decked out with rejected characters

that were sitting in the Disney store warehouse. They decked it out for us so this ride did kind of exist isn't that bizarre like weird could you imagine figures from malls in ohio and indiana and truck them at the anaheim and that's your ride now what would be the storyline um goofy's if it was goofy's superstar limo thenimo, so it must be all the same stuff. Like, you're on the way to a movie premiere for Goofy, but then, like, the three little pigs are going to, like, give you a makeover.

Like, is it that kind of thing? Everyone's favorite Disney character is the three little pigs. You see them a lot, even though nobody really cares about them. You know, Dumbo is going to read you the Hollywood Reporter on the way. I don't know. Where are Goofy's real friends at? Where's Donald? Where's Mickey?

Where's Daisy? Maybe you got to save them because, like, you can't use more than one unless we're going by Mickeyverse multiverse rules. You can't have, like, 20 Mickeys in the ride. I don't know. Mike Jason, you never came across this odd. This was like a Jim Hill discovery a long time ago. No, I missed this. This is very strange.

Yeah. It feels like, I mean, if you just think, okay, take Superstar Limo and you just replace, put Goofy on the ride. It's still obviously a bad ride, but it's not horrible. Like, whatever the scale of the characters, it must have all been so odd

for them to go, there's no way we can do this. This looks so shitty. Well, because they're small. Yeah, right. The biggest issue with the ride was that there was... Okay okay the magic with the dark rides is that there is a storyline there's a narrative happening yeah the narrative of like going to a movie premiere is so loose so flimsy there's nothing there for for then to just replace

it with goofy it's still gonna suck because there's no story at least with monsters inc there's a narrative they literally copy the plot of monsters but it's like what can i attach myself to and goofy's superstar limo no i think you could force one in but it would be expensive and my pitch is that goofy is trying to get to the premiere of the goofy movie and he's causing chaos in los angeles he's goofing everything okay but then you gotta get max in there you gotta get roxanne in there you gotta get pete in there uh you know you gotta get all these guys and all these all these other characters but then you're power line in there you gotta get Powerline in there he knocks he unplugs the power at a Powerline

concert why doesn't this Powerline concert the place they're going to oh that's good he's in a limo to a concert VIP at the Powerline concert cause he's trying to help it doesn't have to be a limo it could be his car

which is a reference to the why isn't there just a goofy movie ride because then you can have like the the you know disney loves these like drops you know what i mean and there was a waterfall scene in a goofy movie you could incorporate incorporate that in the right it's uh yeah that would be great i mean it's timing timing wise everything was falling apart when Goofy Movie came out, sadly. That's true. For the Disney disaster. Yeah.

I feel like if they announced now we're doing a Goofy Movie ride, I feel like the most ardent fans would be pretty fucking psyched. Oh, yeah. Because there is a huge fan base for that movie now. Yeah. Yes, for sure. Yeah. They're not doing cool stuff

like that and i know that sounds like that's one of the dorkiest thing to say they're not doing cool stuff like make a goofy movie ride it's not really what i'm they're not doing like you mean it as an asterisk next to your cool yeah yeah well it's like when i said it's like when i said that like box lunch at the mall has hip Disney merch, like Wristicats merch. I was like, all right, well, hip, I guess, is not really hip. Hey, kids, come on in. Take a seat.

Let me tell you about the great mouse detective. Yeah, that's a hip choice for your Disney shirt. Hey, kids, have you heard of fun and fancy free? There you go. It's what they call packaged films. Merry Melody. Hey, you know, Looney Tunes was on later. Merry Melodies is what they used to call them back in my day.

Look, I wish. You kids are all probably about the lunatics, the extreme ass-kicking loony tunes. Of course, yes. The manager's like, Greg, we're going to have to pirate. The voice you use is really off-putting. Mike, I'll give you credit, though. I know what you mean.

They will invest in a few pallets of Powerline T-shirts and lapel pins, but they won't they won't like commit to a multi-million dollar no it needs to be something they're confident in now they're gonna make like three to six movies of sadly like it doesn't feel like unless it's like truly like disney vault classic then like in tokyo they're building a new right are they building a new peter panerai in tokyo that's right yeah that's right yeah they are so like something like that maybe they'll build and they're building they built the beauty and the beast ride there so unless it's one of their prestige things it's only going to be new stuff i feel like and not cool edgy disney material like goofy movie like the black cauldron or uh

oliver and company the cool assass shit that Disney used to make. Huey Lewis. Nothing cooler than Huey. Mike, for the listeners, Mike just put on a bolo tie. Yeah, I'm cool now. I'm changed. I'm cooler. Yeah, so I wish, I mean, I wish, as I think we've said on the show i think uh eye to eye is the best disney

song ever made maybe it's like part of your world and eye to eyes they're tied maybe oh wow yeah i yeah i died as a slapper i have a weird bizarre favorite go Oh, sure, go ahead. And it's from the 1977 movie The Rescuers. Oh, I think I know. And it is from, it's called The Journey and it's the very beginning intro song in the opening credits

where it's sung in the perspective of a message in a bottle saying and it's in the sea sea it's in the ocean waves and it's a beautiful montage opening uh credits where they're going on a journey hence the song and it's beautiful it's great it's sort of like the carpenters except a little spooky a little bizarre and i love it i think that's my favorite disney song ever i've certainly seen the movie but i don't remember this yeah it's not sticking that's my favorite Disney song ever. I've certainly seen the movie, but I don't remember this.

Yeah, it's not sticking. That actually doesn't stick out because I haven't seen the movie in a long time. I mean, it sounds great. It sounds like that'll be immediately we'll be back in our... That'll be one of the hipper things we like once you've put it on our radar, I think. The rescuers? The rescuers is already, of course,

very hip because it's a little more obscure too, but the song specifically. i remember watching the rescuers somehow as a kid but the vhs i had was rescuers down under which is like the tonal op it's like the brightest movie i can remember from my childhood because it's in australia it's just so much sunlight yes and that first rescuers is so dark black. Dim. And green and dim and stuff. And it's such an interesting switch between those two movies.

What song was in the Rescuers Down Under? What was their like. Is there one? I don't know the answer. What was their song? That's years later too. That was like there was a pretty big gap between those movies. I cannot recall.

That's a long time. I don't think there is a song. Oliver and Company was one of my first like in theater movies so i as a kid oh yeah that was good that has good music it does what should i why should i worry that's a good song and then bet middler has a song in there as well that's also you know maybe my favorite disney song is the huey lewis once upon a time in new york city which i just learned was a i just learned as a howard ashman actually like uh a quieter yeah i haven't met referenced in the documentary but uh howard ashman meets huey lewis which is pretty cool that is a good

that is good one of the synthier disney songs so that that adds up for me um to go back to this this pre-monster zinc history there's one more thing I want to throw out. This one seems like this, I don't know that this one got anywhere, but also Jim Hill claims that there was almost a, they almost redid it quickly into Miss Piggy's Superstar Limo. Right, right, yes. They almost tried to throw them up.

They're really hung up on the superstar aspect of the ride. It's gotta be about Superstar be about superstar they love that name yeah like superstar wasn't a thing before i mean i think that was a thing before and limo too because you know the cars don't look like limos no they're i mean in the monsters inc ride they're caps yeah it just changed changed. Nobody imagined that being a limo. So, sometimes you can't let go of an idea.

Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to say goodbye to those scrunched little limos. But Monsters, Inc. did. They did the right thing. You get in a taxi. They changed entirely. At the Port Authority. You get in a taxi. And it's great, because it's like, you walk in, and then, you know, you get a picture of the city of Monstropolis.

Like, you get newspaper clippings, you know what's going on. You get into the something that, you know, really isn't that explored in Monsters, Inc., but you explore the actual city, which is like, oh, that's fun. I feel like I'm a monster in this ride. It's very, it does the job of making you feel like you are a citizen going on this journey. So you sit in the car and it's great. It's just, it's fun. I think it's

an A, well I don't want to say A plus because it's not perfect but it's an A ride for me. It's got a lot of tricks I like. Like at the top of the ride where you see the footage of the monster giving like the man on the street and he's doing the like the the you know yokel had been abducted by aliens like talking about the child with the eyes and tentacles and you come around the corner of the ride and then you see the like statue maquette. You see the interview happening in real life. I think that's a nice trick.

That's cool. The Randall... I mean... A lot of the Randall tricks are very good. Him swinging from the door, color changing towards the end. Randall has sort of a similar... Now I'm realizing I'm cursing poor Randall,

but Randall has a very similar Jack Sparrow in Pirates vibe on this ride in a better way. He has more fun tricks of like, oh, there he is, there he is. And it feels like they put some more time. Ah, yes. They're better things than just like Jack Sparrow and the barrel and stuff. Yeah. But I apologize to Randall for the association.

Well, Randall is a villain. He wouldn't mind. This ride... You know, Randall's listening. I don't want to offend him. And he's very sensitive. Yeah, no, I know. So that's what I was doing.

I mean, this ride ate it by, like, you know, the voices of, like, Steve Buscemi, Billy Crystal, and John Goodman, too. Right. Let's not forget jennifer tilly and jennifer that's what i that was the last one i was trying to think of like who is cecilia oh god it's the goddess jennifer tilly and also i mean it also the the ride also has my favorite scene which is harryhausen's the the sushi restaurant which is a nice nod to you know the creator of all those stop motion movies from like the 50s of the 60s and 70s like simbad those simbad movies um and yeah like i

all of that that chaotic scene in the restaurant was like so perfect god i loved it oh i love that that scene is the best that's my favorite scene i think that's like that's not a that's a common opinion to have i assume that's not crazy is that that seems like this yeah a lot of people love the um bras at the end and the doors are cool all that stuff is cool but yeah that sushi that's yeah and the ginger of course the smell in there there's which i think we determined is probably the only theme park ginger smell that exists. I don't think we've found another example of them with fake smells. We did a fake smell Final Four last year. We broke down the best fake smells in theme parks. And what was the best?

What was it? I forget. E.T. The E.T. Red. Oh, E.T. Red. Of course, the forest. Wait, what was the smell? It's like a forest.

Oh, wow. And so, E.T. Red. Oh, E.T. Red, of course. The forest. Wait, what was the smell? It's like a forest. Oh, wow. And so, yeah. It's a forest, but it's, you know, that doesn't sound so great. But yeah, if you were there and if you go in Orlando, there's just a magic to it. A musty magic. Is the ride still around? Yeah, yeah. It's still going to Florida.

Oh, yeah. Really? They took it out. Oh, wow. At Universal Studios? Yeah, yeah. It's still going to Florida. Oh, yeah. Really? They took it out. Oh, wow. At Universal. Yeah. Yes. Gone in Hollywood a long time ago.

Oh, wow. Yeah, so that one. But Ginger was in the mix. Didn't make it that far. I will say this, and I don't want to get us, we're being very positive, and this will sound negative, and I guess it's a little negative, but i always forget about all this stuff because i don't go on this ride that often because the queue at the exterior of the queue inside the queue is great i find it a very kind of similar to like almost like men in black where i really appreciate how like mundane it feels it feels like it's part of the world both of those movies have aspects where you have like very mundane officey type like things put on

fantastical i don't know constructs i don't know what words i'm saying here but you get i'm saying it's very like office like and then it's a fantastic world um yeah i think to add on to that mike i think that there's when it comes to getting on the ride the waiting is the waiting element of it um either makes you um believe that you're like a stranger coming into this like strange land so it either impresses or it emerges you into that world right and i think the monster zinc ride does a really good job of making you feel like oh this is i am part this is like normal life for my character the person that i am in this right you know whereas like the hogwarts ride in universal studios is very much like look be impressed by all this cool stuff like i don't think monsters

right it's very much like this is your everyday life like yeah i mean yeah the fun of monsters inc is like the mundaneness of it's putting on like just like making it making scaring kids not something that's mystical or fantastical it's just like a job it's a boring job and that's what's fun right and then you get that vibe initially of like you're going to work which is which is fun um but i will say the exterior and the place this ride is located sucks yeah it's bad and it doesn't that we've i think we've found this on a lot of episodes and we found this with the soren in florida versus soren out here the soren in florida i'm not happy with what's outside it's inside inside of a big building. There's a lot of stuff. It's kind of confusing.

And I don't really have any desire to go to it because of that, even though it's the same ride out here. But the ride's version out here has a very cool hangar. It's very inviting. The location makes sense. And it's so interesting how I really feel like that makes a huge difference on if i go to the ride a lot or not it's like what it looks like and what the area around it feels like uh and the place it's in in california adventure is this just weird empty lot now that's been used a lot for different like festivals the glow fest festival the mad tea party these are all things I like, by the way. Tron. The Tron, whatever.

Electronica. Electronica. Yeah. But during the day, it's nothing. And it's just this weird, empty square. And then the exterior of Monsters, Inc. is just like flats. Just sort of boring, cheap-looking flats. And I feel like maybe I go once or twice a year on Monsters, Inc. And every time I go on and I go, hey, these things are great are great why didn't i but i never want to go on the ride and i swear it's just because of its

location and what's going on with like traffic flow out there i uh yeah i 100 agree it is in a weird it's also i believe the only dark ride in california adventure yeah a little mermaid a little mermaid now oh a little mermaid little mermaid now oh little mermaid yes but see the little mermaid placement makes a lot of sense i mean also it takes a lot of space for a not that impressive right and you know with monsters inc is just sort of like in the middle of nowhere it just feels very tossed out like just like an afterthought you know so i totally agree of course it's like a messy it's like the last part of the park that's sort of untouched because you know they put all that money into it years ago now when cars land started and it feels like they've been like we're we're

getting to this we swear we're getting to this and then they like touched it with putting in guardians ride and they're like we swear we're gonna do something soon but in the meantime we're just gonna throw like chairs in the middle and then we'll put like a black widow photo op or you can meet black panther or captain marvel over here and it's like but like by a sound stage and it's like are they actors that doesn't make any sense it's chaotic it's just chaotic it's a lot like there's a lot going on every time you go there like when jace and i were there for the guardians opening it was like the summer of heroes and then it's like this really like militaristic music plays and an suv drives by with a black widow and we're like we're supposed to like black widow after this like show of military strength

like yeah of course she's not doing anything well but i think the reason they haven't adjusted it in addition to cost is like the the both pro and con thing of like backlot soundstage themed areas is it's a container you can put anything in the container like if the movie's a big hit you can get it in there real quick uh if we need we need something to to distract people we need something to take people away uh uh from the main part of the park well put something short run in the backlot area because it's like a movie studio you can put any movie you can put any tv show back there i think the thing I like about the exterior is the 2D

style of like the credits for Monsters, Inc. It's one of the movies where they do the credits kind of in like that 2D throwback style. And I would say the one thing I've always wanted to see from Pixar is a full length 2D animated

film or like a 2D 3D combined like that Paper Man Jason what are you saying I'm saying but Pixar has ever done that I know that's what I'm saying that's crazy that's part of

that's Disney's job you leave that to Disney Pixar does not do that but what if they they could some of those shorts they get a little innovative you know shorts the shorts are a little different yeah but like that's that's that's dangerous talk jason you know that's dangerous talk the wrong people hear that and you can be in serious trouble but you do you see like what people you know international like secret of in serious trouble but you do you see like what people you know international like secret of kel's or triplets of belleville like these very

interesting uh 2d animated films and i i think you know you're looking for more innovation yes well i'm just i'm thinking like you know you when you see like pixar artists like doodle or like when they do shorts or they go off and produce something on their own it it is often not like that cgi kind of style and so i don't know i just think it would be interesting to you know that is that's a good point because like i do remember in the 70s with 100 wall dimensions being like a shining example of this is that a lot of their animations were sort of shown as like rough drafts in the final animation. You could see the line drawings in 101 Dalmatians. Like it just, it looked a little like the scratchiness.

Yeah. Yeah. The scratchiness. And it was, it added to the aesthetic of that movie. And I want to see more of that. i want to see more of that i want to see more of like yeah show us a little of like a pared down pixar film because it's like every pixar film is such a freaking like a bullhorn every year it's like i want to see like a quieter or like a i don't know

like a gentler one that doesn't have to be a tent so much yeah yeah yeah exactly yes not a temple understated exactly that yeah a little weirder give me an odd movie um that isn't the good thing well i think baby elder should come back quite frankly um in the new future uh i was looking back through some rumors and for a while i think before because like but probably will happen i don't know what's going to be the final fate of monsters inc but it does feel like marvel will keep swallowing this part of the park within the next 10 years i don't know if they'll probably get rid of monsters inc and maybe maybe they take the heads off other characters and put different marvel heads on perhaps like drew carrey's body will still be there but it'll be like hawkeye's head now on drew carrie's body just a weird jeremy renner like head within then jeremy renner

head in the style of superstar limbo i got it i got it i got it it's gambit's head whoever they cast as gambit because he has the four pamphlets and they turn them into playing cards that would be fan that's perfect look at that i'm saving money for the company right here so it's the so it's the x-men superstar limo superstar limo it has to be superstar limo again and it has to be superstar and beast builds them all like uh they get rid of the blackbird the jet and they still have a new limo that they ride around in well because they're because you're a student you're a student at the xavier institute you know yeah so you you haven't gotten to the to the jet yet so you got to go on these like rinky-dink limos they're called but it stands for something you know um and then drive

them to make money to pay your way through school yeah for your predatory loan that professor x loaned you that is That is actually can. Like, I've been rereading the Chris Claremont, like the 70s and early 80s X-Men stuff. And they do have a long, fancy car that like, I guess it's like, well, Professor X is a rich guy. So he would have this. But like when Cyclops needs to jaunt into that,

they were going into the city to go to a nightclub. He's like, like well let me just drive our big car driving our long Rolls Royce into the city see so you can like you can weave that into the ride all of that legend you know what I mean all of that story

yeah that's look these are great ideas but I hope that happens but there was a time according to rumors and hearsay that this section was just going to become monstropolis like properly wow oh so they were going to add more stuff to that yeah build it out more make it look better and then there would have been also i believe i believe i'm re was reading correctly that there would have been also, I believe, I believe if I was reading correctly, that there would have been an additional ride, which was the Monsters, Inc., which I've seen this rumor. And I'm sure this was for sure rumored for here and for Florida.

Monsters, Inc. door coaster. Yeah. It would have been a roller coaster, probably not a crazy one. Man. But it would have been a pretty fun little ride through like doors and through sort of the world. Oh, that's cool. Which seems great. How would you be strapped into a door though?

Well, you're not in the door. You'd probably be in some sort of, I'll say a limo. Let's just say it's a fast limo, you know, taxi cab, some sort of public transit to play up the door maintenance limo.

And on the limo, it says, this is a door painted on it. Yes. Uh, so that, so yeah, so that so yeah there was a there was a time i believe when that could have happened i remember even people showing pictures of when they were going to demolish and now it's mickey's uh mickey and the magic what is no not magical map well philhar magic geez yeah uh they were going to demolish then the then muppet theater

and they had the the balloons in the air which they use in Imagineering to see how high things are like if they would have to build they use they're not called trial balloons that's not right but that's a different thing they send the balloon boy up yeah if he gets high enough

to get scared right Falcon let me down but i think on all four corners of the like existing building they put a balloon up based on okay this ride will need to be this tall to see sight line wise how it'll look from different parts of the park and to see what it would look like yeah just to sort of visualize what it would look like if they had to build a very tall structure right there so So I believe they even got as far as maybe measuring stuff like that to do that here.

But I don't think it's going to happen. I think it's going to be superstar limo with X. No way. That's kind of fascinating. Are you saying all of Hollywood, like if you just turn in that Hollywood area is, is that monstropolis from the get go? I think it's just going to,

it was, the idea was maybe just those backlot, like the sound stages, and that area they use for electronica, and then with an additional ride, and then maybe, yeah, some eating thing or some restaurant, some... Okay. That's cool.

Merch. Harry Houses, baby. Harry has a good sushi place in the parks. That'd be amazing. They don't have a sushi place at Disneyland. that'd be amazing they don't have a sushi place at disneyland you know that's great that would have been great oh um so yeah so i think that was yeah there was a time when that was very possible but wow now we're gonna get a fantastic four sushi restaurant it would have been the exact same sushi though we know like it would have been the same

quality it would have been bad yeah it would have been bad sushi but the one sushi is going to be real long one's going to be charred and one's going to be clear the wrapping is going to be like jellyfish clear and then the last one

will just be on a rock plate yeah it's just a rock palate cleanser yeah um man i man i want this expanded monstropolis that sounds really good and the because that you know when you're behind the flats and looking at that most usually empty stage where they don't do shows very often that's one of my least favorite zones in a park anywhere. I really hate it. And boy, it was so lame that around Christmas,

that's one of the only things you could see. Just really added to the depression of the Christmas festivities. They have to blow that whole zone up. Whatever happened, I would love if Monsters, Inc. stayed as long as it could. Yeah, you're right. I think it does hurt. And it puts you in a weird bad mood

when you're going onto the ride. Do I really want to walk over there? Do I want to walk past all the scaffolding and the barely painted metal walls? It's a bummer. The Monsters, Inc. ride is not a place you go first, technically.

No one's gunning for that ride. No one's going to be like, I'm going to goneyland to go to that ride and then go home no that doesn't happen it's usually the last ride of the day you go to disneyland and then you go to california adventure you know and then you're tired at this point there's nothing there's nothing pretty to look at anymore you know so like you're sort of in a bad mood going into it and that taints everything but i think there's a power to the ride where you come out of it feeling kind of renewed and feeling good. It's a good one to like if you're-

Because it is bright and colorful and nice. And well, and you see your friends. You see like the nice, you know, like Sully bonding with Boo, which is adorable. I mean, any depiction of Sully anywhere, whether it's a walk around or on any ride, just, I don't know, it's nice to see Sully. He's very lovable. Yeah, and then if you're wearing Mickey ears, the Roz animatronic calls

out the fact that you're wearing ears, and it's very nice. That's one of the things that Roz can refer to. Yeah, so she'll say, like, ah, the lady in the front, nice ears, are those those yours and it's like that only gets triggered if you are wearing a mickey mouse ears i did not i do not know that very cool does raw's work is that like one of those situations where there's like a number of

phrases and somebody has to be there activating them yes yeah yeah it's one of those like I don't know if the Mr. Potato Head works the same way I think there's an actual actor no there's not it's a it's a button thing I think because it's Don Rickles voice but I think oh it's not a Don Rickles it's not like a 25 year old

Don Rickles voice impressionist because I think sometimes yeah I'm sorry I'm sorry take the magic away sorry to crush your dream I know you were angling for that when it reopened if you want to audition on the podcast right now go ahead I mean Disney listens

you can call us chowder heads or whatever probably shouldn't use some of the material he used to use I'll be honest in 2021 it's not aged very well the the explanation that like you know you're all big people you know we're all big people here tonight you know i don't pick on you know that that doesn't fly as as quite as well nowadays i think you could do some ribbing and pull that off but uh yeah some of that stuff yeah so uh so... You're not going to get it. Well, what are we going to...

I was going to say Potato Head. Yeah, he just... I remember there's been times when he really can target people in the line, and then sometimes he's just singing a song. Yes. If the guy wants to take a lunch break. I'll say this about Monsters, Inc.

in terms of when I ride it. I think Monsters, Inc. and Little Mermaid, I usually end up riding because there is, if you spend a lot of a day at California Adventure, let's assume at normal times, everything's operating. There is a crush in the middle of the day at that park where the rides you really want to go on have super long waits. all the restaurants are packed and you're like i gotta kill time for a

fast pass or i gotta kill time to like let the the crowds die down a little at the restaurants or stores and that is usually monsters inc and little mermaid just because they never stop loading that is when I find myself on one of those sorts of rides. So it's like an afterthought. It's not even like you want to go there. You don't want to go there. It sounds like it's an afterthought. You hate the ride, Jason.

Okay, I'm not going that. I think I will admit it's an afterthought for me. And I'm saying it's not fair. I'm saying it's not fair that that's what happens. I do think it's helping the guardians now is something i love and go to so i'm more forced on the way in the flow of traffic do you like the guardians ride more than tower of terror uh the one that was for sure the one that was there i like more and i also i also though find now tower of terror in florida a little lacking because of the drop sequences and is fun as

the one here but for sure I like it better than what was there before because it's a little better in Florida there's more theming in the one in Florida to the Tower of Terror so I am going that way more often now which leads me on there but I may

but you don't go for the Monsters Inc right you go for Guardians of the monster zinc right you go for gardens of the galaxy and then you make a pit stop yes and i don't i'm sorry to the right it's not fair because i said i go on it it's almost like because of where it's located all it's all the good feelings i just had disappear so quickly because i'm in a really barren weird place again so it almost feels like a dream it's like you're right and also you're right in terms of like tone as well like you go to guardians of the galaxy that area feels like very like adult to me like it's not a place that like it doesn't have the whimsy or magic that i think like months that ride should belong that, that ride belongs in Disneyland.

Number one and number two, and like a more youthful area of the park. Yeah. It's also, I feel like maybe if they did, like if they just built a really sort of, uh, uh,

I'm trying to think like an office, like an office building, that's a little stylized or something, something that like looks like a thing. And that isn't, you know what it's, know the thing is here's here's let's be quite honest this is an afterthought even for the people working at the parks literally it's an afterthought it's not you know what i mean they didn't not mean to make monsters right true and it reflects it shows it shows it shows in the park yeah it should be like it's and that's and that's a shame it should be like the dunder mifflin office or something i'm not like they

should give it i mean look oh the actual well it's the most popular show of all time i get you may as well i know they don't own it but give give it an homage maybe. Like there should be a little something there to sort of make me go, oh, I need to, like the Haunted Mansion or whatever. You see it and you go, oh, you get that good feeling from the Haunted Mansion. I walk by Monsters, Inc. And I go, there's some paint. There's a flat piece of cardboard with the colors on the outside Monsters, Inc. written.

Well, do you want it to look like where they work? Like the factory? Is that what you the factory is that's good yeah i mean probably better that than the dunder mifflin office i would you know what no i think it should be the actual dunder mifflin i think that's what all right scott it's got to be something from the movie whatever something that makes logical sense what a stickler even for the container part of the part all right um no you're right like because isn't it they there is a better um exterior in tokyo in this the tokyo ride which is a different ride called ride and seek um and it it is left over from the exterior that was there but it lent itself more to that industrial, the grand building and the halt, like the atrium that you walk into when you get into the ride and you get in the line is like, you know, like the monsters are very proud of where they work. That's the thing you really feel in the movie.

They like they're so proud to be scarers or makes a scarer assistant or whatever the you know they love this how these hallowed halls and yet think you feel that when you go into the Tokyo one this yeah you're in these narrow corridors and then the building itself still is sound stagey you want to feel

Sully's pride when you walk into the thing it might help Sully's pride he landed walk into the thing it might help sully's well that he landed on the and everyone was okay he made sully made a miracle happen and do you still get uh get on a cab in the tokyo disneyland ride what that vehicle is supposed to be yeah it's this whole other oh but it is yeah and it's this premise where it is as opposed to this ride which is kind of during the events of the movie this is post

the movie where it is not screams the power of the city anymore it is laughs so there is a fun game that is done now that is a hide and seek game with a flashlight so every so you get a flashlight it's basically like a buzz light your laser tag ride but you point a flashlight instead of a gun so it's like a more family friendly

but then boo gets loose again you gotta find boo and randall still gets come up and so he gets crushed into a cube in this really amazing sequence it is it's extremely cool yeah yeah it's it's interesting so i'm not trying to i'll stop talking about the exterior because the ride itself is good but it is funny like thinking about like pirates in florida doesn't have the queue um that california does california has obviously that buildings exterior and it's a lot bad the one in florida doesn't even have like the you know how like there's the restaurant blue bayou restaurant doesn't have that intro part to the ride. It feels like the best rides really ease you in and out,

but also when you see the building of it, also it's enticing you. It's like the best rides have all of that in it. Yeah. But also, I mean, we have to think about the fact that the monsters inc ride is a substitute ride you know what i mean it replaced a as much as i love it a shitty ride superstar limo tours it's it's just like it was never meant to be the star despite the name having superstar in the title this was an afterthought this was like honestly

a ride filler let's be real it was plugging a hole in a rowboat like and that's exactly it the expectations are different when they start from a blank expansion pack oh yeah just build fresh as opposed to like yeah re-skinning we gotta get something in here people say there's not enough characters in this park people say there's not enough family dark ride kind of things in this park so um it kind of was a necessity being the mother of invention i need to cut it slack exactly yes i need to be well i need to be nicer yeah be yeah be nicer there's always room for improvement i mean uh you know here we've been trying to do our thing again plus it up keep it as is or burn it down for insurance money um i think there are some options here and i'm not sure

like in in mike's case mike is your version of this make it a grander experience fill in some of those things they couldn't do in the rush job of 2005 um so dunder mifflin exterior Michael Scott character actor outside of voice like actor inside talking look alike Michael Scott big head big big that's good yeah and then I mean you could put as many as you want Dwight we could have Dwight

out there so that would be my plus up let's just get these office characters but then it's the Monsters Inc. it's a Monsters Inc. but people want to see the office characters I think this is perfect rendered like Superstar Limo looking like scary

miniature dummies they're still under there turn Cindy Crawford into Pam great Melanie Griffith is Angela that's right i think this makes a lot jackie chan is oscar yeah it makes sense sure carrie is dwight i guess yeah there's an equivalent but regis philbin stays yes yes in honor all right um okay does anybody else have strong

feelings about what could happen here i think i feel like I'm not in dire need to. I think you got to plus up everything around the ride. Just take that awful flat out of there. But I think if with the right new ride, I wouldn't miss this. Jason, what you said last time about Joe Rohde's quote about like, these things are like Broadway shows. You get a run and that's a good run. And then something else has to come in. I think that I think like for the right replacement, I think I could say, hey, Monsters, Inc. was great, but let's let's do the next thing. But it would have to be

it have to be good. Can't be an afterthought. And I will not keep it a limo if possible yeah i that we'll see yeah i i feel like sadly i'm not going to be so upset if they get rid of it but it's not fair i mean it would be nice if they could move it and make it like a little grander somewhere else like i don't know i mean they do sometimes move stuff like this but and they probably won't but it would be fun if they like really massively built out toontown or something and put this i guess this doesn't really make sense in toontown but does it really make sense in hollywood certainly not um yeah where would it make sense it doesn't really make sense yeah because it's like there's like california venture is pixar area like i think they've supposedly i don't think they've said it unofficially,

but California Venture supposedly is Pixar, Marvel, and Disneyland is Star Wars and then classic Disney. There's a ton of Pixar also in Disneyland. But there's also a ton of Pixar because they didn't make that rule before.

Yeah. Yeah. So it's a hot mess going forward supposedly that's what it is until it changes tomorrow um jason ross um oh my god yeah i was just gonna say like if they fully build out like marvel comics new york in this area i will be in heaven if they do it right like they're they're opening opening Avengers campus and I'm excited to go to it, but it's like, it looks like a college campus with a jet on the roof.

It's like, I don't know. That's not quite, that's not quite the excitement I had is reading the comics as a kid was like, Oh, I want to go to a college. Like,

and that's not even the X-Men's man. At least the X-Men's mansion was like, I know the X-men are in there it's like oh there's a building well i'll like learn from hulk he'll teach me yeah that feels weird also it's not canon and it's like okay i don't know about that i anyway i i could do without uh i like spider-man i like spider-man being in the avenger like i like him being worked into the universe but like the stuff that's coming the Avengers. I like him being worked into the universe, but the stuff that's coming with the ride,

I'm sure I will enjoy the ride, but all this stuff about, hey, STEM, huh, kids? Don't you like STEM? It's just like, I don't know. Can't kids... Do you gotta do... I don't...

Do you push this... Listen, if they're committing to a university, put Monsters University instead. Hey, there we go. Sure. And presumably there's some liberal arts at that Monsters University, because we gotta have some liberal arts they're committing to a university put monsters university hey there we go sure and presumably there's some liberal arts at that monsters university because you know we gotta have liberal arts graduates do we can't just have engineers and stuff otherwise you end up with

all these silicon valley psychos uh you know and also like in the in the case of like of what you were saying scott about keeping monsters inc right it's like i don't mind it i don't mind them getting rid of it but if we get rid of it as far as i know that's the only monster zinc representation we see at the park and that's unfair that's unfair we gotta have monster zinc somewhere in the park so we either like tear it down and rebuild another monster zinc thing or move monster zinc somewhere else in the park. Well, there is one frozen treat. The frozen treat stand in Pixar Pier. Get out of here, Jason.

Get the fuck out of here. No, that's not what I mean. I know that's not what you mean, but I do like that if you go by that door screen at the right time. And I think this is a good use of screens in the ride, the doors to different places. The Yeti offers you like a lemon

ice which you can then go buy on pixar pier that's nice why can't there be little doors like that like just scattered throughout the park that's nice yeah that would be never know when someone will say like doors that don't lead to anywhere they could be like storage spaces but just like make a door on the outside and it could have those little interactive moments with like the Yeti or Cecilia, et cetera, et cetera. I would be satisfied with that. Or the front of the building. You cover the front of the building and different doors and then you can stand there and watch a little show between all the doors.

That's fantastic. Like Laugh-In. Like an updated Laugh-In. That's fantastic. Oh, yeah. Yes. Monster Laugh-In is pretty good. That's a good show.

Billion dollar ideas. I mean, hey. Left. Monster laughing is pretty good. That's a good show. Billion dollar ideas. I mean, hey. Left and right on this episode. Could they turn the Hall of Presidents into laughing maybe with doors and like that? At least you won't be a serious political thing anymore where people boo the president. It'll just be like Nixon and everybody opening up a door and saying socket to me. Are people really booing presidents at the Hall of'm just recently the last couple presidents certainly um no one's booing zachary taylor no i don't think so interesting it'd be great to see a lincoln with like the um daniel day lewis like

i don't know his voice no we're on the world stage now no he he did uh because they say lincoln they think had a much higher register that he was portrayed in like old 50s and 60s movies and that and so like yeah Daniel Day-Lewis doing a very interesting voice in that movie interesting but he's so tall that is weird yeah deep voices yes they have

they have a plot of land I think back in Pixar Pier that could be developed on yeah so that's where door laughing should have it in the rights um get door laughing cooking and we'll be sad and then the ride can uh then it'll become a literal afterthought i guess yeah that's sad i i'm trying to provoke oscar with these divisive words i think i mean you're not the the yes i i'm mad about it but listen i can't be mad at the truth and that is the truth it's it's an afterthought ride uh pains me to say but uh it

is and i think as far as an afterthought ride it's pretty dang yes it's great that's true and it's kind of great for what it is with what type of ride it is and i like it better than little mermaid yeah 100 and that was not an afterthought ride that was like a ride they wanted to make huh so you might be like disappointed i think we should we could bolster monsters inc like the fan response i think we should like the next thing they put on like a meme kind of t-shirt is the guy with the photos of Boo his line is I mean part of the fun of those

you know the yellow seat decontamination guys is they you can have them say anything and his delivery when you go by him he says I have information on the girl like he says the weirdest he says it the strangest way so if disney i think you'll make big bucks if you start selling i have information dot dot dot

on the girl on a t-shirt i'm gonna catch that all right all right i love. Let's get it out there, Jason. Yeah. Yeah. So hopefully they do it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I think I'm just going to make the t-shirt. Yeah, we might actually, yeah, we have a T-Public. Yeah, we should.

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i mean that's that's something in its own right uh But I was trying to do this thing. And then somehow during this recording, I got an update about this. And we're recording this on January 19th. So this was supposed to come December 18th. It is now January 19th. And I get this email from an eBay seller. I'm contacting you because as of the last month and a half, there's been a major backup and delay with USPS. Packages have not scanned or delivered. Please let me know if you've received this item. If not, I'm sorry for wasting your time, and I hope you understand the bother. If you have not, please let me know so I can get the ball rolling

and put a trace on this package. Suddenly, there is imperative. Somebody really has the fire to get this thing out to me a month later uh what is this item you may ask the item is a baby action figure no what is what am i looking at well the it's not what you're looking at the the question really is is this cute no it doesn't quite look like the movie i wouldn't let me see if i can get a bigger uh um vintage disney baby aladar sound walking dino alive aladar toy figure works um and i don't know if i can see it any better than that it's a pretty small photo oh no there we go

oh my they have the merch for the baby Alador? Did you know this Mike? Did you ever check in on this? I think we looked on the episode a little bit I didn't see this one though this might have been like part of another toy there might be like a bigger mechanism

that's supposed to be with it but they broke this off and it's what would it be what could what could it be possibly um oh adorable little turd no think about it imagine

you're gonna have to rig up the turd yourself and imagine for yourself you can make it out of play-doh make it out of a-doh make it out of a little piece of chocolate yeah oh fudgy I believe a listener emailed us that

they had this toy and their family tried to get rid and it was like a haunted toy like it for years like with just the batteries never quite died so every now and then it would just make a horrific like ah sound and then every time they tried to get rid of it it would end back and i have to go back and look look through our emails cursed toy i think so you maybe you

are getting it maybe you are finally getting it That's why I couldn't get it. It disappeared. But then we bring up Baby Aladar for the first time in months, and suddenly it appears again. There absolutely is a ghost thing. Wow, yeah. You know what you did? You secreted this shit right here. I manifested it.

You manifested it. It's going to end up in Scott's house. I mean, it'll have to wait. It's going to come to me to where I live, but maybe I won't bring it inside. I think I have to leave it. If it never actually enters my home, I think I'll feel more comfortable. I'll leave it on the porch. I'll let you know.

You can come get it on your own time. What if you're... I think your child has a new best friend. No, never. No. I think what's going to happen is you're going to pick up the package and you're going to open it up and then your son is going to go,

brother? No. Oh my god. Aladar. His first word. Aladar. Aladar. How would he know? He sounds like E.T. too. Aladar. Then he's he then he's in school one day and people are kids are talking about trying to see if they could figure out where babies come from and he says babies come from

the mail that's where my bestest little brother came from ebay an angel let's get this kid let's teach him a lesson oh god oh god when the other kids everybody knows it's from sex let's beat him up good boy generation two doesn't know babies come from sex his dad does a theme park podcast still. He's been doing it for 10 years. Get him harder. Get him harder than Mark. No, I will not send it to my child to this.

That's why we're getting out of here. We're not going to engage this fantasy anymore. Go to our social medias and check us out there on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. And if you want three bonus episodes every month, go to podcast, the second gate of patreon.com slash podcast, the ride there, the buck stops here. I say, however, though, I would like to end the episode on it. Just Jason,

if you could do one clean, what you imagine that that toy sounds like based on what the listener told you and we'll compare it eventually when it comes and mike tested himself did you do it like wait i didn't hear it wait i didn't hear it oh okay like a man like a someone choking in a restaurant all right we will put the real and it probably it probably was supposed to say like hurry come on everyone stand together that's how it is sketch phrase stand together stand together

it sounds cute honestly that sounds like a cute little noise. Well. Yeah, just record Jason doing that and put that in the toy. So it sounds like that. And then we'll start selling these. We'll 3D print them. We'll copy the mold. Now we've got to wreck it.

I'm going to carry Baby Aladar around like he's Grogu. And I'm Mandalorian. you have to protect him he's gonna have a floating bassinet in a few years we'll see like a post from like a um a chris chris evans or chris pine of like and by the way the upcoming movie aladar it's not based on disney's It's based on the dinosaur Aladar that exists, that the movie was based on. Why was it only Chris's, Jason? Huh? Because I couldn't remember.

If it's one Chris is playing Buzz Lightyear and I couldn't remember which of the Chris's it was. It's impossible to remember the Chris's. Yes. I believe it's Evans. It is Evans, yeah. He's playing. And also Chris's, I'm not not getting anywhere only Chris is allowed to work

you know alright we will put this cursed item up to the microphone when it's in our possession but for now thanks for listening bye bye bye forever dog bye bye. Bye.

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