Podcast: The Ride - Mr. Six

Episode Date: July 24, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 FOREVER! PEE-PEE! DOG! Warning! The following podcast involves a horrible football team owner. The episode was recorded weeks ago, before the horrible owner reluctantly agreed to change his team's horrible name. But that doesn't make him any less horrible. Besides all that, get ready for an amusing discussion of the Six Flags dancing old man, Mr. Six, on Podcast The Ride. Podcast The Ride is coming. I am your host scott gerdner i'm joined by michael carlson and also jason sheridan mr six is the topic he's the old man from six flags the whole
Starting point is 00:00:56 ep will be like this for over 90 minutes hey now hey now, welcome to Podcast The Ride. I mean, I've lost the momentum already, but just ask for the music if you guys want to make any points set to that intonation. I was going to say, we like to kill time. We like to kill time. That was going to be my addition. We like to podcast. We like to podcast. We like to podcast. We like to podcast. We like to podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:29 We can do the whole thing, certainly. I'm happy to do the entire song in homage to the good boys, homage to the Venga boys, which is what this whole episode will be. We're talking Mr. Six. And as I said, in case you didn't know, that is the old man from Six Flags. I think you could just as well call this episode the old man from Six Flags.
Starting point is 00:01:52 But ever since I learned that he had a name, it's impossible to not use it. Mr. Six. Mr. Six. Yeah, I don't think I knew he was Mr. Six until recently. That's new information, relatively new information to my brain i think i knew about it but i forgot about his um his friend we'll get to his friend later we don't
Starting point is 00:02:13 want to start with his little friend uh yeah that's late that comes later that comes much later after after at least one villain if not more villains i'm okay yes i've also stumbled upon the villains and i have some thoughts about the villains it's crazy whether it's like yeah it's a world a villain in the world of theme park comings and goings who also happens to be one of the worst men in america yeah yeah and maybe more than one I don't know if we looked at the same thing. I kind of kept going down this particular rabbit hole. It's it's it's pretty crazy. And I it's all I don't want to like give away my personal thesis to this episode. But I I'll just say, how do I preview it that I think it's I think you're in dangerous territory if you oppose mr six i think the anti-mr six side has some very unsavory characters and i'm not sure that that's where i want to be yeah i mean i i will go ahead and say i love mr six and i think i'll even go so far as to say i think that he gave us permission to have fun again to set our clocks to play time after the combination
Starting point is 00:03:29 of 9-11 and the Iraq war Jason would you say that Mr. Six allowed you to be weird yes Mr. Six allowed me to be weird for sure yeah tell me to be weird which is something you can say were he ever to die which is obviously a concern because he's very old um and it's less of a concern because he's fictional however as mr peanut taught us fictional misters can die so we got to be afraid of anybody but if you know you just have that ready to eulogize him with were he ever, God forbid, to pass away. Right. Now, should we all say do we do we like should we all proclaim our feelings like I I'm a little mixed on him, to be fair, to be frank, I should say. Let you be frank. Let me let me be frank for once on the show uh i i don't know that i loved mr six when i would see the commercials i was a little off put by him to be honest i'm relieved to hear you say this
Starting point is 00:04:35 because this this was my opinion but but i'll just as a preview i think my opinions evolved a little bit i was certainly heading into this thinking Is this going to be yet another scenario Where I'm against the ropes And I didn't really like the thing But I'm not even sure I'd say I am or was vehemently opposed But I think I'd be dishonest if I said That the first time I saw
Starting point is 00:04:57 This dancing old man to the Venga Boys song That my response was Good, yes, I like this I can't say that's honestly what happened in 2004 or so yeah i don't think it was an active thing i don't think i threw something at the television when he'd appear uh i just think i was more like oh okay huh all right and uh yeah i so i think i like him more now but but I think at the time he was not high on my list. And I discovered real quick, I don't know if anyone else watched this, an interview with the SVP of marketing at Six Flags, Angelina Vera Baracus.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And she said, and she has a smile on her face while talking about Mr. Six, because I'm going to paraphrase here. She said some people really like Mr. Six and some people don't like him as much. And that's both good for us. That's a mark of a character that has people talking. Yeah, it's the old no bad press. You know, they're at least they're talking about. Yeah, right. So I think that it sounds like we we
Starting point is 00:06:05 all were playing right into the hands of of marketing some loved him some didn't love him which is i thought it was weird i i think that was the reaction they probably most people probably had and they thought most people would have it's like oh this is kind of weird what's up but then you yeah you are asking questions you're looking into it or you know i think um i think that i can't deny that i thought it was weird but i think i i think i thought it was weird in kind of like a uh like an underground comedy movie way you know or like like an all that way it's like something that would have been on all that um like is it i think i was like it's definitely certainly odd and kind of grotesque which is interesting is the word i
Starting point is 00:06:50 just had pop into my head too grotesque is the word i don't know is it just because it's like the makeup is weird i'm you know after baby aladar gate i'm i'm relieved to be on the same page with you again mike to not be like off on an island by myself well this is how i look i maintain my credibility here that i'm not just trolling you about baby aladar the baby dinosaur from the disney movie dinosaur that no one likes is cute he is cute something about that over explanation made me uh question it again yes i was just trying to in case a listener was just uh in for the first time, I just wanted to make sure they were caught up.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Let's do some cliff notes. Well, you know what I think? Yeah, I don't think you are trolling me on that. And we did the girlfriend test. You asked Lindsay if she thought Baby Aladar was cute and she said yes. People weren't part of the argument taking place. But now I don't know what to think
Starting point is 00:07:44 because when that test happened, I asked my wife erin do you think baby aladar is cute she said absolutely not so okay we're on the same page i asked her about mr six loves mr six really yeah it's it's kind of against the the mold that this this thing has been and you know and i'll say she's always she's a big influence on me taste wise and it that was one of the first things that made me think do i need to give mr six a second chance if my uh if my beloved wife erin with very good taste um likes him maybe i got to think about this a little harder well let me ask let me text lindsey and see what she thinks about mr six i did not ask her before this that's a good question and and elsewhere in pursuing opinions, Jason, can I ask you if your opinion ever changed or evolved or have you just been full tilt six Stan since 2004? I think more than ever, especially as like places start to open back up now more than ever. I think the six flag brand six flags brand needs Mr.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Six. Well, that's how they felt. Whenever they brought him back the first time, which was maybe 2010, I think. Okay. Well,
Starting point is 00:08:59 they brought him back kind of to distract from, they made it a racism. Oopsie. Yeah. I didn't see this. Did you guys not see this? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Well, so we're jumping around in the timeline a bunch. So we'll get to Mr. Six's first retirement. Somewhere down the line, they changed the taglines they were going with to more flags more fun and um the person they had saying more flags more fun was just the disembodied head of a yelling asian man what yeah i saw this, I do remember those ads. Yeah. And people were not, people were like, what are you, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:09:49 Guys, what are you doing? What's this? And they're like, oh, nevermind. Who said that? Mr. Six said it. And then it was like, oh, hey, Mr. Six is back
Starting point is 00:10:02 and he's talking now. And then they brought him back in a very similar way where he's like in a in a little shape he pops up in his head was disembodied as well yes yeah they they had to use that after effects element so they put mr six's head in there hmm so you're saying that the voice that was used, if I kind of recall the ads, maybe the voice was a little questionable.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. Yeah. Sure. So suddenly, somebody who was very divisive, then they do something much more divisive, and now Mr. Six seems like like safe ground like very safe footing i've got an update on lindsey's feelings about mr six uh i said i said do you like mr six the old man six flags mascot i sent a photo and she wrote in all caps no i hate him boy just flopping
Starting point is 00:11:01 with aaron on this issue. Yeah. Huh. Interesting. I don't think I quite understand. I'm going to ask Jane and see what she says. Yeah. Yeah. If it's a full reverse, except it wouldn't be a total reverse because, Jason, you really like Mr. Six and you really like baby Aladar. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And she was pro-Aladar. like baby Aladar. Yes. And she like, she was pro Aladar. She likes Aladar. Yes. Yeah. So that what's not yet, it's not a perfect mirror yet. It's not a, I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:32 it can't, it can't be, I guess. Yeah. This one, you know, I think any, um,
Starting point is 00:11:36 election night of any kind for the rest of time is going to be very stressful and not like kind of a, a fun, uh, TV night of viewing anymore. So I think we need things like this, like our personal electoral map about issues like Mr. Six and Baby Alador.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Now we're waiting on the results from the Jane District. Could be any minute now. It could swing this entire thing. The world waits. Yeah, so I think he's... I bet that he is more disliked than liked and i don't know if it's strong i don't know if it's people saying hate but i would bet people go i don't know and i don't think so not for me that's my guess you think like parents probably don't like him i'm sure
Starting point is 00:12:21 parents don't like him because he likes to have fun. So I think that's another strike against him. Parents want you to study and they want you to do your chores. And this guy drives a bus up to your house and tells you to get in. That's one thing about it. In his first appearance, he is an old man stranger who pulls a bus up outside your house and says, get in right now. We're going to the roller coaster place. And he doesn't talk, right, in that first ad? He doesn't talk for a while.
Starting point is 00:12:57 He doesn't talk in all of the first ads. I think until he says more flags, more fun. Right, right. the first ads i think until he says more flags more fun um right right uh she says no and one of the reasons given is because he only has one outfit in his closet whoa that's oddly specific does she well because she hates steve jobs no well because there's no there's a commercial there's like the mr six returns commercial he gets out of bed at a retirement community and he opens his closet and the only thing in there is the single tuxedo with the red bow tie is it only one item or is it 20 of the same item no it's just one it's just one hanging suit so she hates him because he's poor and only can afford no i think because that's weird well the other can i read this can i read what you wrote okay uh the real the main reason
Starting point is 00:13:54 she says is she says uh no i she does not like him because she knows that uh under the makeup is just a well-dancing fuck boy. I can see why you asked. Not the specific guy, just that I think she knows a lot of that type. A lot of that sort of professional dancer type. Oh, so she sensed like dancer desperation and like the overdone way a dancer. I know what you mean. Like, you know what? He I guess he has some of the energy of when I mean, I guess anything else where there's like a fake old man and then he's like struggling to walk. But then he busts breakdance moves like you can tell even when he's a fake old man, something's up.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Right. Yeah. Yeah, i get i get that and then if you're seeing i think that is part of the uh unnerving grotesque thing about it too is that it just visually it doesn't your brain knows something's wrong yes exactly i think you're one like i know this is not a real old man, obviously. But what is under it? There's something so strange about that face and mask. And you're like, is it a woman? Is it a child? Like, it's pretty unclear.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I think there was a rumor about it being a celebrity. Do you guys know who? Why is it not coming to me? Hmm't think i saw this there was some false rumor i want to say that um amy puller played him in an snl sketch at one point in time in a donald trump hosted episode of snl no yikes no there was an apprentice sketch oh no um who did people think i'll try to figure that out but right i that's i think that is some of the initial creepiness people have like i something is under there but what yeah yeah is it like a creature of some kind that's pretending to be a human well a bear a dancing bear i watched them on like a collection of a bunch of the commercials and a
Starting point is 00:16:08 lot of them share the themes of that same that first one you know where it's like he pulls into a boring suburban street and he gets out and he dances and then everyone else starts to dance but my favorite one was where like they do a scream parody where a woman answers the phone like scared. And then the the music starts playing through the phone and then he like burst in through the door. And then they drive to a dark Six Flags like it's the whole commercials at night and they get chased by ghouls and goblins. But then he dances with the ghouls and goblins and that's fun this all happens in 30 seconds time yeah here i think i have it out mr six at fright fest is fun i do think that's maybe my favorite of all of these oh no i'll go ahead and
Starting point is 00:17:00 say this and pass the the torch to you guys if guys. I'm a little light in my research of specific ads. So have at it. If you know more about ads, take lead. Well, the original ads, there were a few of them. And as we were saying, he doesn't talk. The first one is that he's like in an assisted living facility, essentially. And he wakes. jason am i right about this that's the first one that's no no the first one is like the minute and 30 second short
Starting point is 00:17:31 film with a narrator you're right that's right somebody said what do you uh what's the gist of what the narrator says it's kind of like a dr seussian until one day a mysterious man arrived, right? Yes. Yeah. To like shake them out of it. And I had forgotten, like when he gets off that bus in that first commercial, he's like creaking and he's like moving really slow.
Starting point is 00:18:00 And you're like, oh, what is this? And then he breaks out the dancing. That's what I'm saying. That part is weird off the bat. You know, it's not an old man. It's similar to stuntman acting. When stuntmen have to do things that aren't the stunt, it's very over. Even if it's just like walking across the street or pointing at something and saying, what's that? It's always not good.
Starting point is 00:18:20 He's doing sort of a Willy Wonka thing to a fake. It's a fake out also. Yes. Where you think maybe he's in worse shape than he really is i guess it's also like uh johnny knoxville's bad grandpa yes i think that i think bad grandpa makeup is better but later too so maybe it was more more advanced technology had come a long way yeah you know what's really crazy in my um uh and i'll move off this as fast as possible but i actually watched norbit for the first time uh all the way through and um have you guys seen norbit i have not can't say i have um it's uh one of the things that makes it a rough watch
Starting point is 00:19:06 is that eddie murphy plays many parts and among them he plays an old chinese man and yeah that's not good however the literal the the literal makeup is unbelievable it might be the best makeup in the history of film which which is what I think. And it was nominated for an Oscar bizarrely. I mean, all the makeup is great and it's Rick Baker who's done did the Grinch and a thousand things we've talked about. And it's just unfortunate that it's in this area,
Starting point is 00:19:37 which is so not good. I just, if you're, if you're just interested in literal prosthetics, Norbit is, is pretty amazing. But I, you know, let me put as many warnings on top of that as I can. You've qualified it, I think, enough.
Starting point is 00:19:53 A lot less. Please let me. I don't have time in a 90-minute episode to do all the qualifying. Well, we'll add it in the show notes, I guess, too. Perfect, yes. All right. So those first series of commercials are the It's Play I guess, too. Perfect, yes. All right, so those first series of commercials are the It's Playtime commercials, yes?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yes, It's Playtime. He gave us permission to play again after our national trauma. I believe the second commercial is what I was referring to, is where he's in the assisted living facility, and he gets like awakened by a nurse and then we see his single suit. Yeah. Is that an It's
Starting point is 00:20:31 Playtime one? That is still in the It's Playtime commercials. In the It's Playtime branding. Okay. I like where he's dancing and then all the people and the Looney Tunes characters run up behind him at the end of those commercials. I like that. Yes. He's dancing with like Tweety Bird and Daffy Duck and then all the people and the looney tunes characters run up behind him at the end of those commercials. I like that.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Yes. He's dancing with like Tweety bird and Daffy duck and then like children to bunch of show a huge group. Um, and he does various things. So it's like, it's sort of unclear. Like he's just a party mascot,
Starting point is 00:20:57 but also in one of the commercials, he's cleaning the park. Yes. Buffing the roller coasters and sweeping up as well. So not only does he dance all day and all night with the Looney Tunes and park guests, he's also part of the
Starting point is 00:21:13 maintenance staff. Yeah, his role is a little unclear. I guess Ambassador of Fun could cross over to needing to keep the park clean because you're more in the mood to have fun if the place is clean. That true i mean i would all it would also speak to you know some staffing issues that six flag six flags probably has across the country i mean or or honestly the uh the uh effort level of the teens that work there i would i'd say it's largely due to some of the
Starting point is 00:21:43 villains we'll be talking about later in the in the podcast i think they might yeah the shirt staffed nature of things um can we talk about what he's he's wearing i don't think the um the audience i think i think if you're listening this far you know what he looks like but just just to uh just to say we did um he is in a full tuxedo where the jacket kind of hangs a little loose such that you can see his suspenders and there's always a bright red bow tie and uh and big big big thick rimmed glasses uh like a very i'm trying to think of is there another character who wears glasses like these i'm thinking of dan akroyd and behind the candelabra as liberace's manager but i'm sure there's a more uh famous example mine is not a famous example it's but
Starting point is 00:22:37 it's definitely what i think uh shelly berman's character uh is larry david's father on curb your enthusiasm wears yes yes very good uh i want to see i want to say that i've seen Berman's character is Larry David's father on Curb Your Enthusiasm wears. Yes, yes. Very good. I want to say that I've seen Carl Reiner wear glasses like this for a role, but the role is not coming to me. Is it in one of the Ocean's Eleven movies? That's exactly what I just Googled, and yet I couldn't find it. Is someone else in Ocean's Eleven in glasses?
Starting point is 00:23:01 Elliot Gould? Oh, yes. Elliot Gould is wearing those big glasses. Elliot Gould has the big glasses. There we go. We got there. Thank you. You know what a big one is?
Starting point is 00:23:11 These Coke bottle glasses. Junior Soprano. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uncle Junior. He looks the most like Uncle Junior. Yes. Yeah. Does this timeline add up that he was modeled after him?
Starting point is 00:23:23 Because now that you said that, he looks exactly like him. I don't think they, although they did do the joke where Uncle Junior is watching HBO and Curb is on. And he's like, what am I, that's, what? And he has, like, but I, yeah, I'm surprised they never did. Yeah, the timeline does line up. I think it's, I think this is possible you're right that that mr six is based on this guy yeah really this helps explain why in an article that i have up um it says that a new york city radio host wondered if mr six was actually junior soprano out on a bender yeah damning words sick burn wow it is surprising there is not an episode
Starting point is 00:24:10 of the sopranos where aj fucks up in some way and like uncle jr is the one who has to go to six flags and get him out of six flags jail like by posing as mr six i are i mean that'd be amazing but just like well sixags is right there. It wouldn't be that far for them. It's amazing they didn't go there. They didn't go to enough theme parks on The Sopranos. No, they didn't. There should have been like a Disneyland episode
Starting point is 00:24:36 every season. Oh, man. Disney World, like the ABC shows. There should have been a Disney World Sopranos every season. Wow, this animal kingdom has so much to do. A real safari. Carmela Soprano would be one to only stay at the Grand Floridian
Starting point is 00:24:57 and talk endlessly about how nice it is. Okay, so things are boring in this neighborhood and then an old man shows up in a bus and blasts some party music and that changes everything why does that make you want to go to a theme park yeah well the idea of partying is funny to associate even with a theme park in my mind like we like to party i don't think of we're gonna go on some rides to me yes and any any theme park commercial disney included that you see where a bunch of people are partying in the streets this is rarely the feel rarely does it feel like just an organic dance party has broken out right that doesn't that is not
Starting point is 00:25:46 what i would describe most people's theme park experiences it's hot there's a lot of lines and their kids are screaming it's not we're gonna go dance with an old man or you watch other people dance and maybe you get to participate a little but really they're more having the fun. Uh, I don't know if I'm getting ahead of myself, but they did of course bring him into the parks to have like a dance party with guests.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I don't know. I assume you guys saw that. Yeah. I had to dig on the internet archive because the, the article linked on Wikipedia was gone, but it was preserved on the internet archive. You're talking about the Mr. Six lookalike contest?
Starting point is 00:26:26 No, I'm talking about an actual in-park Mr. Six character that would organize like a dance party with sort of a hype man like teen that was around him that worked at Six Flags. Yeah, they stuck him in all the parks. Yeah, because he was so popular so quickly.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Yeah. This was a little later too. So I'm saying like they did try to get an an actual quote-unquote party going in the park. But in general, if someone was like, hey, you want to go to a party? I would have been like, okay. And I would have pictured a party hat, but not going to the... I like that you picture a party hat. Well, that's sort of the representation in my mind of what a party is is that fun little hat with the point at the top
Starting point is 00:27:08 I was just trying to sum it up of course it's pretty silly to be wearing a hat like that so you know yeah fun you're in a heightened fun atmosphere for sure if you're wearing a silly hat you're gonna have fun you're gonna have a party but yes I wouldn't associate that with
Starting point is 00:27:24 like the cult like the I guess it would be hot you're gonna have fun you're gonna have a party um but yes i wouldn't associate that with like the cult like the i guess it would be hot black top at a six flags the poorly maintained buildings the rides that are fun yet scary and the teens that work there that are apathetic and checked out well because i uh the article that i have in front of me and i'm not saying i agree with this but it's maybe represents how i felt the first time i saw mr six this is uh this by the way is this is from 2009 and this is time magazine interviewing a critic for ad week time magazine took some time to discuss mr six for a little while um this is where this is the news is very different in 2009 um so just just as a full hater this is a barbara
Starting point is 00:28:15 lippert from ad week it's a pretty miserable piece of advertising it's as dumb as can be and talks down to us he's like an elmer fudd who never made it out into the country not sure what that that's not what's writing i don't know how this person is a professional lady you work in advertising you scumbag who are you to judge i come i'm completely on board with you there uh just to continue um and how does how exactly does a creepy old man in a bow tie appeal to the kids that drive six flags business i don't think many 11 year olds relate to george burns types okay well that's pretty funny i yeah i do like that uh um uh so what's our response to that what is i because she's not i hated that elmer fudd joke but there's yeah why why is this so what does the old man have to do with it um it's i think it's a
Starting point is 00:29:13 hard question to to defend yeah i the only thing is i feel like maybe it was in vogue at the time in advertising to like put something divisive up that really doesn't seem to make any sense and would just like be burned in people's brain because this man's face this this haunting face was burned in my brain of like uh okay but i didn't associate it with the brand in a good way so i think she's got a point here it wasn't doing anything that really made me go oh i i would love to go have fun with that old man well i will say that uh i think it is a timeless teen thing to like things that are funny because they're random yeah yes so in that respect, I get that. This is very much like a teen, like,
Starting point is 00:30:09 hey, everyone, it's an old man in a tuxedo dancing to the Vengabus song, which is called We Like to Party, right? Yes, it's officially called We Like to Party. I always just called it Vengabus or the Vengabus song. Well, they're the Venga boys. They are the Venga bus song well they're the venga boys they are the venga boys and they credit them so they sell themselves as europe's number one party act on twitter right and they're they make reference to the venga bus in the song yes which i assume is like
Starting point is 00:30:37 their batmobile or their turtle party wagon just the other, they let us all know that the Party album, their big hit album, was now available for downloading and streaming. Kind of late to the game on that, Venga Boys. Now? Just now? That's what it read like. I didn't dig super far into it, but it did seem like it was now? Maybe it's a remastered version of the album
Starting point is 00:31:07 it could be remastered i mean they still tour you know i think all the sessions it was like a uh it was like pet sounds or blood on the tracks or something we want to hear every every every guitarist session on it eight disc set disc set, the demos, the different versions. There was a version called We Really Like to Party. I think it's too much. I think it is sweaty.
Starting point is 00:31:36 One extra word. Too much. Too many words. You know, Dansky is in there laying down a groove and then Del Mundo comes in like, no dansky no no one would ever groove to this there should be a love and mercy about the venga boys yeah and well and there's there's like four or five members they seem to come and go so you need young and old versions of all of them oh yeah um and we'll get brian may
Starting point is 00:32:06 on board because he produced uh the queen movie and i wanted some of that magic to be on this in this movie too um i i think they might have some trouble making the film because of accurate information that of about the venga boys is is kind of at a premium. I say this because I was on the Venga Boys Wikipedia, which said citation needed 42 times. It was like weeds all over the article, which was not that long. There's got to be. I wonder who the number one Venga boys fan is in the world that could
Starting point is 00:32:46 maybe answer all these questions there's got to be somebody hmm yeah he's probably like he's probably in like a big old mr seuss hat like mr seuss big old like cat in the hat hat uh you know like the way we pictured ravers in 2002 oh yeah yeah yeah they very much look like that i mean they're still rocking that all the picture like their profile picture and like banner picture on twitter they look they look what you want someone selling themselves as europe's number one party act to look like you know yeah the one that i'm looking at, there's an aggressive amount of makeup on members, male and female. There's a huge foam pink cowboy hat with multiple sheriff's badges. The other one's in a dance version of a... He's a Marine.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Marine National on his on his like donald duck like navy hat yes yeah even though it's then it's he's got his tassels but then it's sleeveless to show his rocket ship tattoo uh i've never found lmfao so tasteful he's wearing like football shoulder pads too he's got like a whole yeah there's a lot going on on these in these outfits but leather then leather and tassels um yeah this is there is a very upsetting photo that i'm uh i'm worried if i don't stop looking at this venga boys photo i might never stop there's a lot yeah there's some uh there's some pictures of them in like kind of all silver outfits too that i like and they kind of keep some of the same aesthetics
Starting point is 00:34:31 like they still have uh the cowboy hat it's just a smaller silver cowboy hat and then he still kind of has that like navy hat but it's a silver hat and he's got a like an anchor around his neck and now he's got a cape so i think they all keep sort of the same aesthetic with different outfits okay so they have their theme that they stick to but it kind of changes through styles right that's my assumption about the venga boys a modern day village people what would the representation of, you know, law enforcement professions and, and the military. And also not all boys.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yes. No, not all boys. Half not boys. So it should be Venga people. That's my pitch for them. Can I ask while you're, if you,
Starting point is 00:35:23 it seems like you already have Venga boys in a Google image search. Can you just add to that? You already got Venga boys to just put in Chica spelled like cheetah, but with a K. So C-H-E-E-K-A-H. And now you will meet someone I met in the wick in their wikipedia uh the fourth uh not the fourth it was for their fourth single they added a virtual member the computer animated chica oh like gorillas yeah they're doing a gorillas thing yeah way cooler i say this i like chica yeah i like chica I think I like Chica I listen to the song he like Raps in kind of like
Starting point is 00:36:09 A computer move your Hands stomp your feet He's like a you know The Stephen Hawking digital readout Voice he's like that robot on the McGruff song Oh yes I'm glad I'm me You have to be safe You've got a lot going for yourself
Starting point is 00:36:27 now you've got to keep your body strong your mind sharp i think it's funny that chica is considered a full member although separate from the band because i'm seeing a uh cover that says Venga Boys featuring Chica. Chica's like Neil Young is to Crosby, Stills, Nash. Oh, yes. Yeah. A member, but outside. Chica does his own thing, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I wonder, does Chica appear in any newer things? Or is Chica sort of specifically just for this one song? And have they spun out Chica into anything else? Huh? I'm not sure. Chica might be another IP we try to acquire at a certain point. Yeah, we should probably buy Chica. Yeah, I think we could buy Chica is what I'm getting at. And we could make our own Chica TV series.
Starting point is 00:37:21 You know him from the Venga Boys, and now he's free uh okay wait a minute hold on a second i've i've stumbled on something that maybe is a reason we shouldn't buy chica oh no no all right urban dictionary's definition of what chica is the sound of a wingman wing woman keeping the driver awake by hand job what i think i understand okay here i'll they have a little example from some dialogue they've written here uh sam says benji come with me to keep me awake benji how am i going to keep you awake adrian chica chica cheek and then a new then a fourth character big boy dies from laughter yes i don't understand i don't know what the chica chica means and does that say that would only be um that would only be the sound if you were giving a hand job to like a loose doorknob that's not an onomatopoeia.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I don't think a penis makes a sound chica chica cheek. That is not the first thing I think of when I hear chica. I think of the first thing I think of is the Ferris Bueller song. That's what I think of. I don't think
Starting point is 00:38:43 of giving a bus driver a hand job i think that yellow's oh yeah and venga boys venga bus is coming are are terrible songs to have any kind of sex to well that's fair i mean i think that's right i wasn't even thinking about that at all do you think anyone's ever like, well, you ready? Do you want to? Yeah. Why don't we? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Ball, ball. The Funga Boys video with Chica is very, like, sexy. Like, there's a lot of people grinding on each other in a CGI nightclub. What does Chica do? Is Chica getting involved? Yeah, he's in the mix. Chica's grinding on people? Yes, and the Venga boys all jack in on computers.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Jack in. Jack in, Jason. Like in a Matrix way. They all set up at like stations. This video is great. This is the future we were promised. One of them is a leather cowboy grooving out while watching Chica
Starting point is 00:39:56 run through a virtual hallway that says with different doors that say gallery, news, download. Chica, we should describe as like a little like television in his stomach he's like a green he's like an aqua color and he has a television in his stomach and he i don't know he looks like he also kind of looks like a reboot type character very reboot he's their avatar the the venga boys are are dialing into the internet and chica is they're living vicariously through his nightclub experience oh yeah this is this video is really like this is like if reboot if reboot went to like some
Starting point is 00:40:37 dirty rave reboot triple x reboot triple x this is yeah this is scandalous jason are you okay are you getting i'm a little uh uh verklempt and and i uh yeah i mean i i can see why re uh chica never met mr six like this is too bawdy for mr six oh my gosh this is now he's like doing like leisure suit larry types he's like a shorter guy and he's like walking up to women and he's doing leisure suit Larry types. He's a shorter guy, and he's walking up to women, and he's giving them the eyes. I got to turn this off. This is too much for my sensibility. I'll spoil something for at some point he pulls out a hose
Starting point is 00:41:14 and sprays everyone down. Chica is not going to be purchased by the Podcast to Ride LLC. I will say that. We did the bodiness check. Yeah. Too much overload. Too much baggage, I think. If there's a video of Marvel McFay grinding on CGI women,
Starting point is 00:41:34 then he's out too. But as far as we know, there's no video like that. The video ends with the Vengo boys. They all stand up and like doff their caps to the camera and wave goodbye and then chico waves goodbye and they turn their computers and the lights off like they they had to include that yeah wow it's it's great it's full of shot close-ups of digital butts and upskirts it's a very sexy music video yeah wow with very limited but with characters it's the kind of cgi where you say like these characters would are probably like one foot tall
Starting point is 00:42:11 right there's no way they're tiny they live in a computer yeah they're they're tiny for sure yes it's it's if you wish you were watching the cgi 90s show reboot and wishing there was just a lot more butts a lot more butt on it which i you know a number of people were wishing yeah that's true i'm sure there's a lot of people going oh that's my dream i'm surprised i didn't hear about this sooner this as always do the deviant art check um uh you know what i will do the check um so there's a comment this is that awkward moment when the venga boys predicted second life hmm that's kind of accurate why wasn't chica in ready player one oh that would have been a perfect rep and yeah he's in there he's in the digital world yeah yeah they would have been a perfect rip. And yeah, he's in there. He's in the digital world. Yeah. Yeah, they would have met him at some point.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Yeah, I mean, probably in the sequel that just isn't probably not going to get made because it didn't make enough money. I'm not seeing a ton of reboot. Reboot might actually not be popular at all. There's not any Mr. Six, like... That's a good question. Gross stuff, is there? There's a good question gross stuff is there there's a term for
Starting point is 00:43:28 this is it rule it's rule I forget what number rule 34 or you could search it with R34 is it wait is that the right number yeah okay I I think that's it rule 34 wait I don't think it is 34 32
Starting point is 00:43:43 72 I actually don't think it is 34. 32? 72? I actually don't even know what the number is. I'll search all the numbers. All the numbers. Okay, yes. I'm doing the 20s. Dictionary. It is rule 34 means if it exists, there's porn of it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I see. Okay. 34. 34. I'm looking at this now. So I should just look up Mr. Six rule 34? Oh my god. That should give you something. Oh, there's some dirty cartoons.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Oh my god. There's nothing to do with Mr. Six, but oh, it's really... Oh, I don't even want to... I can't describe... Oh, it's horrible. Are you making this up, though? No, I'll... No, this is just general... I'll show you what I'm... If you really want to see what I'm looking at, it's disturbing.
Starting point is 00:44:27 But it's not about Mr. Six, so we don't have to pay attention to it. I don't think it has anything to do with Mr. Six. No, it's all just like Tumblr crap. That's a haunting image, I'll tell you that. I mean, you can look Mr. Six rule 34 and do an image search and be horrified like me. But please, if you are under a certain age, do not do that. Do you want to have a more pleasant rule 34 experience? As it's coming up, I'm so proud of how much Moonbeam City rule 34 there is in its brief time.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Oh, my God. So much. I'm so happy. A lot of it is very good. Like they could have been artists on the show uh great work everyone um there's one of the character that i voiced the news anchor genesis jones and he has a translucent news desk and if you look through it he's got a bigger egg penis sticking out oh my god which i keep talking about putting on my wall and framing which i always wanted to do and
Starting point is 00:45:25 now probably should not do that now that i have a child yeah you should probably not do that but maybe if you're in an office or something yeah for sure when you would take a meeting have that up definitely yeah and if i feel like that's going to be dicey or making it uncomfortable i could have like a little flag that flips up and uh covers it um you know just say i could i'll get up to a light switch i'll talk to somebody somebody to do the wiring so we can switch the, the, the penis flag on. Got to make sure that it's good.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Cause like, if you're in there with like a Jeffrey Katzenberg or something and like it malfunctions, he's coming to my office. Well, yeah, I assume. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:45:59 What is this topsy turvy world? It's like the whole world got flipped. It's the horizontal and vertical. It's called a power play. It's called a power play. It's called a power play, Scott. Well, well, look who has the power now, Mr. Katzenberg. He's like, I've been hearing about what you've been saying about Quibi, and you're absolutely right, and I'm here to humble myself
Starting point is 00:46:19 and say, what would you do to fix it? You're in charge of Quibi now. Yeah, hell yeah. Makes sense. That should be me in Quibi. I'm the guy who mouthed off in the meetings, but then they like that because it shows that I have balls
Starting point is 00:46:36 and I'm willing to say what's on my mind. And I guess my idea for how to fix Quibi would be to bring back my own show, Moonbeam City, but have it be full of frontal nudity. Which is, of course, what you were. That was the thing you tried to do from the start. That's what I always said. Tension with Comedy Central. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah. The wrecked penis as often as possible. They had a problem with that. Oh, boy. Yes. I should have known um anyway yeah well yeah a future quibi in their desperation will be full of genesis jones dicks um let's get let's let's veer out of here let's let's unplug from the matrix like the benga boys yeah um what can
Starting point is 00:47:21 we get to i well here let's stay on the venga boys topic and i will i will say this i think a lot of the reason that i didn't respond to this stuff for a long time is i think that song is dog shit it is not one i put it in the same category sort of like the like the novelty songs around this time and i know barbie girl is years earlier but i think barbie girl is like a way better song i absolutely agree and i'm still no fan know barbie girl is years earlier but i think barbie girl is like a way better song i absolutely agree and i'm still no fan of barbie girl but there's like a there's there's a hook i think the musicians are more talented than the singers like i have a saw i guess i have a soft spot for barbie girl but yeah the vanga boys we like to party was never it's sort of a drone yeah kind of just kind of goes on
Starting point is 00:48:07 it's not so like they yeah it's not there's not even like yeah like as you're saying a hook for like a kind of a gimmick novelty song um yeah i'm blue i'm blue by aqua who did blue Who did Blue? I think it was Aqual. Eiffel 65. No, no, no. Eiffel 65. Eiffel 65. Yeah, yeah. I think that's a better song, too. I was just going to mention I'm Blue. My friends and I hated that song because we worked at a theater camp on a college campus and they had TVs just in the one common area. And it would just play music videos on a loop and it would play like i'm blue like every hour
Starting point is 00:48:46 like just we would just go insane like they were playing it so much any song like this i don't quite understand how people listen to it at all i find them so annoying like such it's the definition of earworm but in a in a bad way where the worm chews through your entire brain. Yeah. I do think We Like to Party. I'm really trying to search. I think Blue was annoying to me, but once in a while you'd listen to it and go, okay, alright.
Starting point is 00:49:16 But I don't think there was ever a time with We Like to Party where I was like, okay. Wait, I'm sorry. I-Full65 also has a digital member what he's i don't know his name but he's in all look at do a google image oh my gosh so we have to do it i guess an episode about digital members of bands that are otherwise human oh wow eiffel 65 so is it this guy so i hate this guy hold on let me see oh wait Oof. Is he the guy with
Starting point is 00:49:46 like an ammo belt around his chest or the ammo? He's in like a, what I'm looking at, he's in like a black leather skirt and boots. Oh, I see him now. Whoa. He's like a really lo-fi megamind. He is like a Euro
Starting point is 00:50:03 dirty clubber megamind He is like a Euro Like a Euro dirty Clubber Megamind I hate things like that and I hate that For the fucking fraud the frog That seemed to rule Europe for a whole Decade crazy frog Who's crazy frog Mike
Starting point is 00:50:20 Response The What Mike! Good response. Crazy Frog. The crazy frog. What are you talking about? When I think of Crazy Frog, I think of Axl F, the techno version of the Beverly Hills Cops theme. Wait, Jason, you're thinking of the hamster dance, aren't you? Am I?
Starting point is 00:50:43 Is that the hamster dance? Crazy Frog had a whole album. He had a bunch of songs oh man what why don't i know crazy frog oh there wait this is crazy frog huh i guess i really don't know crazy frog he looks familiar he looks like uh like an extreme video He looks like Gax or Crash Bandicoot Or something I think he was way bigger in Europe But I studied abroad And right in the middle In 2005 and I just remember seeing Crazy Frog
Starting point is 00:51:14 Everywhere hearing that song everywhere Probably people playing Crazy Frog's Album Crazy Hits Crazy Frog charted Wait he covered. We like to party. The Venga boys. Crazy frog.
Starting point is 00:51:29 What's new? What does he have to bring to it? How is crazy frog going to do anything different that the Venga boys hadn't already done? Oh my God. You're right. Here it is. Crazy frog.
Starting point is 00:51:36 We like to party. So he did the theme of Dallas. I don't understand. This is a confusing discography. crazy frog is crazy frog before the gorillas uh the gorillas album came out in 2001 i want to say so 2000 2001 so is who's the who's the so when you're up obviously it was a big thing to have a CGI character. Who started it? Do we know? It might have been started by the gorillas. So did Damon Albarn?
Starting point is 00:52:12 Is he the innovator here? Well, think about this. Eiffel 65, Blue predated even that. Yeah, of course. That was when I was in high school. And I don't know where you include paul abdul's friend mc scat cat in any of this but you know it probably has to factor into the family tree somewhere yes i think that's right well this is a whole this is a whole day yeah i know we can't day now
Starting point is 00:52:38 we can't get lost oh my god of recording there's multiple there's multiple blue cgi characters in the video for eiffel 65's blue dabadi oh no multiple yeah there's two in there and there's like a cgi spaceship and this also predates avatar oh wow not only all of this including the gorilla is stolen from eiffel 65 as is the avatar franchise Eiffel 65 was ripped off left and right we need we need to get like this situation like righted this is this is bullshit you know there's that thing like well the velvet underground inspired everything that came after this is like if the velvet underground also inspired jaws Without Eiffel 65, we don't have Father of the Pride.
Starting point is 00:53:28 We don't have Game Over. You know, we don't have all of these wonderful cultural artifacts. Wow. Man, we need to look into Eiffel 65. All right, we'll go further into them and their company, the Bliss Corporation.
Starting point is 00:53:49 I hate threatening to move us away and then move us right back in, but I think I discovered the name of the character. Oh, no, please. No, that is relevant. Zorotl. Z-O-R-O-T-L. Oh, yes, I see it. Oh, it's spelled like, you know, very like Spanish. So with the T and the L next to each other.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Zorotl. Where you're confused about how to pronounce it. Yeah. It's a character created by the Bliss Corporation and featured in the videos of Blue Dabadi, Move Your Body, and Lucky in My Life. Wait, but he has a more full name. Zorotl Kuyo Kow Sushik IV. Yes, that's true he was supposed to be a malicious character but since he was designed with a funny round body the authors of the blue daba d video decided to portray him in a tender i guess portray it as a tender changing the script and giving it
Starting point is 00:54:42 a happy ending yeah that's not a sentence. Now, wait a minute here. Okay, I thought April 65 had been ripped off, but look, they did the ripping off. Think about this, a malicious character, but he's got a funny round body, so they made him a friend instead. This is Grimace. They stole it all from Grimace.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Grimace in the McDonaldland gang was stolen from Sid and Marty Croft. Right. So actually, this trail of ripoffs, where does it end? We're saying that Damon Albarn and the Gorillaz ripped off Sid and Marty Croft. Yes. That's basically it. We solved it, as did James Cameron.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Yes. And I think Eiffel 65, well, I think Sid and Marty Croft have a lawsuit on their hands with everyone in the entertainment industry. Yeah. McDonald's, well, first first off they got to solve that one finally they got to make that right and then james cameron yeah all right now i'm exhausted i know i am too um jason you seem to have a plan i'll let you i'll let you run with it uh should we talk about i mean mike as you started to say uh mr six was brought into the parks to dance with the people there were local mr sixes you know uh and like any good theme park ip that marketing woman you referenced did talk about especially when they were talking about bringing
Starting point is 00:55:59 him back they're like well he is our ip we created him he's like the only original character we have uh so there's merchandise of mr six did you guys come across this stuff no no sure i think i missed it oh you didn't see any of the mr six merchandise i think i just yeah there's a lot on ebay um i just texted the t-shirt uh this is like a design that's on a bunch of t-shirts and then they just change at the very bottom in real small print this one says six flags great america um i saw astroworld ones too these are very reasonably priced too this is like very reasonably price it's like 20 bucks for a new shirt i might i might get that because that's my size uh but then i found the same design but it takes up the whole shirt and it's a little more upsetting
Starting point is 00:56:52 like this should not be this big on a shirt and this is while you send it this is mr six he's kind of doing like jazz hands in the center of a roller coaster. That's the design we're looking at. Yeah. So as you can see, that's a small like chest sized one. And then this this other this blue one I just sent is like very large. It is, but it's not as bad. I thought you were I thought you were heading for that. It was just his big face was the entirety of the.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Oh, no. Oh, I wish they also had very dignified looking shot glasses that kind of had a more of the shirt. Oh, no. Oh, I wish. They also had very dignified-looking shot glasses that kind of had more of an adult Mr. Six, kind of the silhouette Mr. Six. This is his brown derby caricature. Yeah, his brown derby caricature. You know, you got bobbleheads, of course, but then, the best, you got thebbleheads of course but then the best you got the mr six teddy bears
Starting point is 00:57:48 oh dreading this no they're cute i'm seeing oh yeah they're cute all right fine yeah they're big old he's been by yeah he's, they're in suits and big shiny shoes that say six flags and it's playtime at the bottom and then big, big thick glasses. Yeah. Wow. That are leather and the leather kind of makes them look like, you know, like BDSM masks, but I won't hold that against the Bears. Yeah, we can't go into that right now. We went too far it's already been this episode yeah the thing that does the b and bdsm stand for body it must
Starting point is 00:58:32 i won't look into it further but it must it stands for boys comma venga i'm seeing there's uh i'm seeing t public has sort of like bootleg merch, and one thing says, hashtag save Mr. Six. But he doesn't need saving now. Yeah, I guess. I don't know if they went, this should be like bring him back maybe, but there's some sort of a save Mr. Six movement. It's on coffee cups. There's a bumper sticker. But he's, I mean, they use him still currently, correct?
Starting point is 00:59:10 I don't know if at the moment. I don't think they're doing it right now. I don't remember the last time they've used him. I think, well, I watched, there was a 2017, like, New at Six Flags video. Did you guys see this with an executive no and he's a bald man and he said and just he basically said and no i'm not lex luther and then it cuts to a lex luther shot from the justice league ride and he went and i'm not mr six and it cuts to mr sax and he goes so don't ask me to dance that's great i like that um i mean well you know how he factors into the parks is there are a couple attractions based on him um there is a he is um a sort of the figurehead of a, a kid's play area at hurricane Harbor, uh,
Starting point is 01:00:08 here in California. And I think another one as well, another water park as well, um, called Mr. Six's splash Island. And it's one of those areas where, you know, it's like a little like fortress with a big bucket that fills up slowly and dumps every half hour. So it's one of those and he there's a big like plastic mr six and he's uh he's surfing he's riding riding a big plastic wave even though he's still in the full tuxedo classic mr six doesn't even take the clothes off to surf That's fun. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. And then he there was a ride called Mr. Six's Pandemonium that at some point in time when they kind of turned against Mr.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Six, it got renamed Tony Hawk's Big Spin. The same ride was somehow both mr six and tony hawk which i i don't like to make this accusation but i think on tony hawk's part this is a bit of stolen valor yeah he shouldn't have accepted knowing he was stealing this from mr six yeah i don't know there's a good there's a chance he wasn't aware but i'd say there's uh yeah probably like a uh 99's a chance he wasn't aware, but... I'd say there's, yeah, probably like a 99.9% chance he wasn't aware. But even if there's that one chance and he did it knowingly to fuck Mr. Six, shame on you, Tony Hawk. Yeah, I agree with that. It is interesting because it definitely felt like they were flirting here and there with really going all in on mr six
Starting point is 01:01:46 like yeah it felt like they were like it was like a lot of start and stop and then they would like because he went away for a little while and then he came when he came back into the park and when he talked that as we were saying was like kind of a maybe a fix like a like a quick fix version but then they were like all right we're back we're all in on him obviously they named some rides after him and then they stopped it again it feels like they needed to commit and they did it they they did and for a brief time he had a buddy named little six no a child who looked like mr dressed like like Mr. Six. And he's introduced by Mr. Six walking along. And then he looks to the side of the screen and he goes,
Starting point is 01:02:32 little six. And then little six is there dancing. Yes. Little six, which yes, Scott. I think I don't, I'm going to say I don't like little six.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I'm not the biggest fan of little six. i'll tell you what i'm okay with at some point you know the one thing about six flags they they're very much a come on down like they do contests and stuff like a radio show like come on down and sleep in the coffin stay in the coffin all weekend he did a mr six contest of like look like dancing and lookalikes and a child won uh twenty five hundred dollars in this contest that's great and the young person won i think he shaved his head for this is what i saw so he looks pretty good yeah his head looks good uh you can see a big group they flew people in and some of these bald caps look like shit some of these costumes are are wrecked they're they're not great but uh jordan the winner jordan
Starting point is 01:03:39 pope 13 of prophetstown illinois won at this contest and jim crowley the marketing director of six flags great america said jordan truly embodies the spirit of six flags he had mr six's unique dance moves down to a science the crowd went wild when he took the stage well i'm glad that he was rewarded more than the person who won the coffin challenge that was at the Six Flags Fright Fest last year. In case you don't know what I'm talking about, there's a Patreon episode that Anthony Geo and I went to Fright Fest at Six Flags where people would have to lie in a coffin on the grounds of Six Flags for like 72 straight hours. And a reward for that was a season pass to Six Flags and like $500. I think it was $600.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Okay. They always give out these weird amounts. They, I guess, were very happy with the response of Mr. Six. They said further, the buzz has far exceeded our original hopes for the campaign. We had no idea that America would embrace embrace mr six with this level of enthusiasm the overwhelming response to his first appearance at our park in gurney illinois is a great example of this phenomenon they're so sure they're so confident where where's the proof i guess this event 200 individuals dressed like mr six trying to do his dance moves it's a really good video i'll say that if you look up there you can watch a video that mr six look
Starting point is 01:05:13 like gods and then they have a parade a parade that's entirely mr six um one of them's writing a big marvin the martian cannon it's a lot of fun. Oh, great. I love it. Did people come out, though, for their love of the character or did they just want that money? I would think it might be the money. Some of them, I'm sure. Some of them, I'm sure,
Starting point is 01:05:35 they just like Mr. Six. It's not always about the money. Yeah, you're right. Maybe I've grown cynical in my old age to think that people didn't want to come out just to celebrate their love of this character i hope that that child did the right thing and put the money straight into a college fund and thought about his future right uh because i mean he i hope he was thinking like he would save so he would have that money
Starting point is 01:06:03 when he was mr six's actual age yes that's so he would have that money when he was Mr. Six's actual age. Yes, that's what he should be that reminder for all of us. And do we know? I know Mr. Six's actual age as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, because it was told to me in that video I referenced earlier by the person, the SVP of Six Flags. Mr. Six is 80 years old. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:06:28 She definitively says he's 80 years old so there's and still that was in 2004 so i guess he's eternally 80 years old yeah i think that's sort of the idea i don't think he's like 110 now i didn't do math by the way i't. It must be 30 years later. Something like that. Yeah, I don't know. You know, I think the lookalike contest, the merchandise, I think that's all pretty respectful of Mr. Six. Like, this is the treatment a theme park character deserves.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I have to say to the Wikipedia editors out there, the picture of Mr. Six on Wikipedia is just some jerk in a Halloween costume. That is not at all respectful to Mr. Six. Not the official commercial version? No. Hmm. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Yeah, it's just a bit. It says as such, a Halloween costume based on his likeness. I mean, it's a pretty it's a decent Halloween costume, but come on, gang. Huh? Yeah, that's yeah. I don't know why we should email Google about that. I think I think I have problems with Halloween costumes in general. I'm going to send you guys a photo of one that's been bugging me since I saw it.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Maybe this is getting me back into the unpleasant Aladar territory. I don't know what I'm looking at here. This is like a big rubber mask on a child. It's not little Six. It's separately a child's Halloween costume of Mr. Six. What do you think, though? Oh, yeah, I don't like that at all. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Okay, few. You know what? Now that I'm looking at it, I have to say that I'm starting to feel that it's horrible. Oh, few. His tongue, like, what's wrong with the tongue? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Yeah, the tongue is, like, pressed. It's as if the tongue is coming from his upper gums. Yeah. What? Frightening. The glasses aren't even right. True. And it's oddly, it is a pretty good mask, is the thing.
Starting point is 01:08:44 It's pretty high quality, but it kind of puts it into that Uncanny Valley territory. Yeah, it's unnerving. It's just unnerving. That's the thing. And I think that's sort of the feeling about this. Let me sidetrack real quick. And we have a couple more things I'm sure to talk of other old man mascots, other famous old people characters that promote products. And there are a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:09:13 And I think I like all of them more than Mr. Six. Okay. Should we give you like a yay or nay if we agree? Yes. Quaker Oatsman. Yay. Nay. Nay. Yay. More than Mr. Six? agree yes uh quaker oats man yay nay nay more than mr six yeah i gotta see him dance first uh colonel sanders yay you don't like any of these i i feel like there's some gnarly stuff about colonel sanders well yes of course there's no him but yeah the made-up idea of him take away any problematic part of it
Starting point is 01:09:52 just the the friendly uh sanitized version of the character i liked cartoon colonel sanders i'm starting they're starting to lose me with all these like a million people play like I'm not their Colonel Sanders. Alright, that's okay. Fine. You're just being contrarian though. Orville Redenbacher. Foof. I like him, but not CGI him.
Starting point is 01:10:18 That's fair. Jason? I'm going to say that one's a tie. A tie. You like them the same. You like them the same. I like him the same as Mr. Six. I don't think I've seen the CG version. All right. How about Mr. Whipple, the old man who would say, don't squeeze my Charmin, the toilet paper?
Starting point is 01:10:40 I need some refreshing on what's up with Mr. mr whipple mr whipple here's a picture of him this is before my time i don't know no mr sherman but i like the idea of him again there's probably problematic stuff there but just the idea of this old man why is there problematic stuff i don't know i'm just saying i'm just i'm just getting it out of the way in case there is. What did, what, because he's an old actor from the past? Well,
Starting point is 01:11:09 Jason brought it up with Colonel Sanders. Then I was like, yeah, Jason's probably right. All of these characters probably are in some horrible, born out of some horrible tradition. No, but why are you Colonel Sanders?
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yeah. The man. Yeah. What did Mr. What did Mr. Whipple do to anybody? Hey, I don't know what his affiliations were. I didn. What did Mr. Whipple do to anybody? Hey, I don't know what his affiliations were. I don't know what Mr. Whipple did.
Starting point is 01:11:30 I just don't leap to that he's problematic with zero proof. Is it because he squeezes things? Yes. Yeah, he kind of has a creep vibe. Yeah, what if here's a scenario. I didn't watch all the Mr. Whipple commercials. Say there's one where he grabs a lady's butt. Now I'm saying I like Mr. Whipple.
Starting point is 01:11:52 There's going to be a whole controversy with Podcast the Ride, and I don't want that. Okay, but that's an if. I think you've got to leave it as an if. You can't assume that Mr. Whipple did anything bad. All right, that's fair. Innocent until proven guilty. All right, you're right. You're right. I apologize to Mr. Whipple, the bad. All right, that's fair. Innocent until proven guilty. All right, you're right.
Starting point is 01:12:05 You're right. I apologize to Mr. Whipple, the Charmin man. What's his article on LexisNexis? Mr. Whipple defends South African regime? Oh, I was right. I'm seeing some weird polls that at some point in time, Mr. Whipple was more recognizable to Americans than Jimmy Carter during his presidency. Really?
Starting point is 01:12:31 And yet we don't know him at all now. Huh. Interesting. They never recast him, I guess. They never did a new version. Or did a scary CGI version. Or had him dance to the Vengaboys. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Oh, Mr. Whipple was for Charmin. He was dance to the Vengaboys. Mr. Whipple was for Charmin. He was replaced by the toilet bears. Yes, that's true. He was replaced by the bears. Yes. I love those bears. Love them. Cinnamon Toast Crunch Bakers.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Bob, Quello, and Wendell. Never knew the names. I'm fond of them. I've always liked them. I was upset when they got rid of all three of them from the box. So, yes, I like them. Silence. No one would agree with me on that.
Starting point is 01:13:17 You weren't greeted with, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. I was smoking mad too. I wanted some fist pumping. It's interesting. I'm sure if I could hear all the listeners listening to this live, I would hear a few thousand people in silence after I made that statement. This one was sad because they got rid of like two of them, but then Wendell stuck around for a little while.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Yeah, Wendell was still around. The other two were gone. And then I think Wendell is gone now, too think they're totally gone yeah uh all right let me just do a couple more here uh the most interesting man in the world uh he's it feels like such a different category to me yeah i guess he's older old man yeah yeah he might be a little he's not 80 but he's definitely up there um i like him wait so we're so and we're still i forgot we're supposed to be comparing to mr six um i guess i like him i don't know i wouldn't want to talk about him for two hours though yeah that's fair but he's
Starting point is 01:14:18 not attached to a theme park yeah yeah i don't know maybe i do like mr six more than the most interesting man in the world okay jason uh yeah i don't know i might have to go with mr six on this one wow the most interesting man in the world lost to mr six all right here's the last one a character i was not familiar with the mascot of fritos from like the 60s wc frito whoa i've seen this one come up he is basically a ripoff of wc fields and he promotes fritos greetings my little chippadees that's what he says in the, my little Chippadees. That's what he says in the picture I just sent. Chippadees.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Yes. And this photo that you sent of him, I think it's just a stain on an old magazine ad, but it does look like he shit the front of his pants. Yes, that is true. It does look like he has a giant stain there in which case i thank mr six for wearing black clothes so even if he is shitting himself in every single ad or appearance we're none the wiser i gotta go with mr six on this one wow mr six i mean hey jason yes this one is funny
Starting point is 01:15:42 just for like they stole someone's likeness and probably didn't pay any money that was funny this was funny for that and that they were probably like oh god we gotta get these scared americans they'll never try anything outrageous as corned chips uh get them something safe in there let's try and convince them put wc fields in there. Let's try and convince him. Put WC Fields in there. That'll comfort them. It's between that and Charlie Chiplin. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Charlie Chiplin, though, a lot of problematic stuff in his past. Oh, true, yeah. So he would not have held up. So, you know, if the listeners are listening and you have an old man mascot character that you think i've left out here that you think is better than mr six please tweet at us but you think do you mike i'm sorry you like all of those more than mr six i do yes
Starting point is 01:16:36 every single one yep so it's not insane it's not insane thought i's not an insane thought. I don't hate Mr. Six. I just, he's unpleasant. Yeah. What do you do? If you had to venture a guess what the listeners think, do you think the listeners like Mr. Six more than they don't? I think it's split. This one I think is split. I was within 10% of my guess about Baby Aladar.
Starting point is 01:17:12 So I think it's probably, let's 45 like 55 dislike we'll put the poll up that's my guess oh maybe i'll lay a guess down i actually think it's going to be oddly i think 65 like i think that's high yeah i i think this is going to be a divisive one i think it's going to get pretty close to even. But with more people disliking. The same PR person who you read a quote from earlier had another kind of highfalutin quote about him. There are definitely people who are not fans of him, but he has more fans than not.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Well, we'll find out. And at a time when there's all sorts of uncertainty people like the familiar and the known um so that was said in whatever year that was said and certainly 2020 as we record this it could not be a more uncertain time so how and everyone's asking how does mr six hold up in this even more uncertain of times? And we'll find out. Could you imagine Mr. Six coming, like leading a new promotional push? Six Flags is open.
Starting point is 01:18:15 They're all open. But Mr. Six has a mask on. That's what America needs. People get a little lax with the mask usage. You know, it's time. We need heroes wearing the mask. We need a trusted person saying mask is OK. Mask is good.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Mask stops the spread. And since that can't be the president, who is maybe the only person more divisive than Mr. Six, we need a leader to show that if you're an elderly man, wearing a mask is a good thing. It's a strong thing to do. The president, of course, said masks are for losers. So that's a hill to climb. We have to get over that. And what better way is to have a
Starting point is 01:18:58 much more energetic older man show that it's working for him. Masks are working for him. I do think Mr. Six is better favorables than the president. I don't think that's in question. Should we be running him?
Starting point is 01:19:15 Is he maybe more electable than Biden? Couldn't be worse. It's a very similar candidate, honestly. And also, I mean, another good thing is that, you know, like, can somebody who's better, can you ask a question that might be asked of Biden in a bit? What's a question they would ask Mr. Six in a debate?
Starting point is 01:19:36 Oh, that's a good question. Political or more about theme parks? No, political. Oh, okay. What do you do to, what do you do as far as healthcare to expand coverage to more Americans? Hmm. He's dancing.
Starting point is 01:19:56 He's dancing. Everybody's loving it. Live approval ratings. Yeah, it's way, way, way up. Trump is angry. Trump's like pounding his fist into his other hand, girding his teeth. He's furious. He's having a heart attack.
Starting point is 01:20:11 He's keeled over. Trump is being sent to the hospital. That is how thoroughly Mr. Six is beating him in this debate. Trump tries to dance. Oh, he fell off the stage. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I think that's they should have a dance off to the benga boys and that should be what a debate is it is this is what a debate will be in like 20 years but let's just have it happen sooner two old men dancing and go see that's one of the things i like about mr six mr six moves like a mr show
Starting point is 01:20:48 character he he's like he moves like choo-choo the herky-jerky dancer like if you just let him keep going yeah that's true do we like the dances that he does that's a maybe a good question to ask an hour and 10 in or whatever i do i do but it's a little too much it's a little too uh it's a little too well like if it was on so you think you could dance i would i think i would critique the dance i would say look you know you you're you're obviously a talented dancer mr six but you're putting a little it's like a little too comedic for my taste in dancing i like a little, it's like a little too comedic for my taste in dancing. I like a little bit more, I like a little more sincerity. I like a little more
Starting point is 01:21:30 sensuality, as if it was a video by the group the Vengaboys. Or I've always said... No, Vengaboys were the sexy one, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I would say. So I don't dislike the dancing.
Starting point is 01:21:46 It's just a little too comedic in nature for me. Too funny? The problem with Mr. Six is his dances are too funny. They're too funny. I need a little more serious dancing from him. They are funny. They're funny because they're random. It's outrageous to see an old man dance that fast.
Starting point is 01:22:06 That's true. I get it. You want it to be emotive and movie. You want it to be like he should do. He and Little Sick should put on blonde wigs like Sia and do the very touching chandelier performance. I want the chandelier performance. I mean, that would be anyway uh i want a lady an older lady six i want his like wife or girlfriend and i want them to do
Starting point is 01:22:38 the like magic mike uh live dance that i saw in las vegas where there's like water pouring down from the ceiling and they're sliding around on their knees and they're like getting into it it was like a beautiful artistic expression why would you want this all of a sudden this is this is gonna get people to a theme park no i'm not look i'm not saying it's for them i'm saying that's for me you want it to be you the person who thinks like a robot monkey burping is too bawdy. Suddenly you want a sensual dance with Mr. Six and a false made up Mrs. Six. It was not a bawdy dance.
Starting point is 01:23:15 The dance was artistic. I'm talking about a specific Magic Mike Live Las Vegas show that Lindsay and I saw. It's a specific type of dance. Yes, is it maybe not for children? Of course. But it's not that bawdy Vanga Boys video with CGI butts. This is pure human expression.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Uh-huh. So now Mr. Six needs to be doing it with his elderly wife? I don't want him to do the exact same dance. I'm just saying that that's more what I like in dancing. The question was, do we like his dancing? That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:23:55 I'm not going to maybe propose that at the next Six Flags board meeting, but I'm just saying this is the dancing I prefer. Can you find a video of the dance that you saw i absolutely can we somehow uh superimpose mr six's face onto it and that will be the judge uh yes i there's a lot i actually have seen there's a couple youtube videos of people that have already done this for other commercials and superimposed Mr. Six's face. I'm going to find the dance I'm talking about. I want Mr.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Six to dance with the vacuum cleaner. Like the, is that Fred Astaire or Gene Kelly? In those commercials, remember? Oh, right, right,
Starting point is 01:24:40 right. I have Fred Astaire, I think, but I could be wrong. Yeah. You wanted him to be like in every ad like earnest that would be good i think for the real mr six has a little video with mr six dancing with danny tyson the performer who was under the makeup okay so let's talk about this yes and probably if you're if you're sitting still somewhere,
Starting point is 01:25:08 you should go look up, just type in Mr. Six, Danny Thiessen, and prepare to have your mind blown because Mr. Six, who is in Mr. Six? Is it like a weird child or a secret celebrity or something? No, it's this kind of just well-built good-looking british guy all right i'm watching the video of the dance i'm talking about and it is too sexy for mr six oh yeah it's still good it's still a very good dance and very impressive because there's a lot of water going on but it is like he can't he's called live sexy water dance yeah i knew it was sexy but i but it's a little too much for mr six this is gonna ruin the makeup first things
Starting point is 01:25:53 first yeah that's fair that's fair there's too much like clothing removal there's no way we could do it mr six i'm just saying i was impressed with the the technicality of this The ability of the dancers because it's like Insane I'm just still confused Because your glasses fog When there's like a Mae West Joke in a show with Animatronic critters And now you're telling me you love the sexy
Starting point is 01:26:18 Water dance my sexuality look it's buried Somewhere in this brain Once in a while it has to come out So I guess it came out at the Magic Mike show in Las Vegas during the couples dance in the water. That's all I can say. It has to show up somewhere. And it happens once every year.
Starting point is 01:26:36 It's like Ponfar with Spock on Star Trek. Every seven years, I'm moved. A little bit emergence. I'm moved by some sort of sexuality yes oh boy and it just happened to coincide with our las vegas trip last year when we saw the eminem show and magic mike live and david copperfield with blue 32 whoa whoa that's a vacation you need a vacation from yeah it's confusing that eiffel 65 did the song blue and then we're obsessed with blue 32 yeah that is a good point and then we couldn't figure out if it was rule 34
Starting point is 01:27:12 it's a lot to keep straight in this episode rule 32 should be a different blue 32 based search oh no okay yes if if uh that rule is if david copperfield has an animatronic alien in a show there has to be porn of it yes then every every every artist and listener to the show needs to make porn of it yeah blue 32 wears a mask we've seen blue 32 in a mask so oh they did do that yes he did put a mask on him on instagram or something yeah that's true um we bet danny t'son just to just to say it um it's i don't know what else to say about this it's just bizarre um i i don't know he's uh maybe i have no thoughts about this yeah it's interesting i guess but then that's kind of the end of that fact all right so as a guy all right
Starting point is 01:28:11 yeah on on imdb i'm seeing that he is judd apatow's best film yet oh no sorry that's just one of three king of staten island ads um let's see no he just works a lot hey yeah him great yes he works we worked with the kylie minogue and uh uh tom jones i hope i hope for his sake this character comes back so we can get more money to get some more paydays here from the six flags corporation yeah how did this oh sorry no good i think he just got cast i he talked about i saw like a quote from him that he was like yeah it was like a secret identity for no one knew i was doing it like and yeah people thought it was a kid or an old person or what maybe the maybe they should expand the six universe and have like a lot of different sixes the whole family like a whole like 10 person six
Starting point is 01:29:04 family and then we could get in the mix for auditioning for these that's really where i'm going with this um i could be i could be his son i could be his adult son well where does that leave me and jason you could be his other adult son three he's got three three sons each He was one single dad with three sons So we're all his sons We'll all be his sons And then we have each We each have three children
Starting point is 01:29:35 But do we all look like Mr. Sowery Do we all look like old bald men We do but we look like There's like slightly less wrinkles Okay And maybe we have hair Maybe it's sort of the same face Little less wrinkles and we have Varying amounts of hair
Starting point is 01:29:51 And do we get to leave before he does a Sexy dance with our mom No we have to Stand around and watch And support and cheer The dance is just the usual dance But it's in water It's in water and they still take their clothes off yeah yeah so that's yeah that's all part of it uh but it's a giant family
Starting point is 01:30:17 it's a brady bunch size family uh dog oh yeah. Doggy 6. Mostly hairless. Chihuahua. Yeah, just as wrinkly as Mr. 6. Yeah. Boat tie. Doggy 6. Doggy 6.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Michael 6. Jason 6. Scott 6. Great. Fan, fan art, please. Fan art, please. Um,
Starting point is 01:30:50 so, uh, now do we, should we talk about that? He went away and why he went away. Yeah. Yeah. We should do that. Um,
Starting point is 01:31:00 I, okay. So he's with 2004 to 2004 to, what, 2005? This wasn't that long, actually, all told. But it seems like within like an 18-month span, he blew up so big. They are using him, I don't know if he blew up with the audience, but they're using him a lot. He is completely the fake.
Starting point is 01:31:21 I remember seeing him on, they must have used him on Coke cans and stuff, right, with tie-ins. You definitely would see Mr. Six outside of Six Flags. Right. Yeah, yeah, I think for sure he was everywhere. Yeah. He was on Good Morning America, I think. Really? Yeah. Like as a sit-down guest, or did he just do a dance?
Starting point is 01:31:40 I'm sure he just did the dance. Maybe he taught them the dance. Yeah, because he wasn't talking back then Yeah So But I guess as we've said He was always rather divisive And
Starting point is 01:31:55 And then there was a change in management At Six Flags Which started the domino effect Of him going away There was a guy uh came onto the board of six flags named daniel snyder uh daniel snyder to this day is the owner of the washington redskins and one of the worst people in america um awful that's that that's that's about right yes uh he he's he took over he got onto the board and got like a 15% share and then started fighting with
Starting point is 01:32:27 the rest of the board, you know, criticizing them for all manner of things and eventually essentially led a coup that put him and another guy named Mark Shapiro in charge of Six Flags. So he, he, on November 29th, 2005, took over as the full owner of the Six Flags Parks. The next day, the very first thing he did was retire the Mr. Six campaign. Because if there's anyone who knows exactly when to retire a divisive mascot,
Starting point is 01:33:00 it's the owner of the Washington Redskins. But he couldn't wait. We have to do. He called the campaign pointless. He went away. It's playtime motto went away. And they replaced it with a much catchier friendly clean fast safe
Starting point is 01:33:20 service. He kept thinking it was going to be done. It wasn't done. That's too many words. Five? Yeah, that doesn't... It's dog shit. Like, that ad campaign is just all... It's nothing.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Like, that's terrible. Yeah, yeah. Now, to Jason's point, one of the worst people in America, Jason, or either of you, I don't know if you guys looked further into daniel snyder but uh if uh if if you did throw in anything else you learned but i otherwise just uh sit back and prepare for me to pummel you with evil all right all right hit us
Starting point is 01:33:58 hit us um this guy uh okay so just you know know, outside of the Six Flags thing, owner of the Washington Redskins steadfastly refuses to change the name. We cannot. He said a couple years ago, put it in all caps. I want you to put it in all caps. We will never get rid of the name. He would not sign Colin Kaepernick, even though they needed his quarterback. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:21 They needed somebody good. He was available and uh they wouldn't sign him uh he owns a yacht with an imax theater not just a movie theater but an imax theater um he gave 1.1 million dollars not just to donald trump but to specifically trump's inauguration make sure it's to the inauguration um so i hope three doors down was worth 1.1 million of your personal dollars um uh when the recession hit in 2008 2009 uh he oversaw a campaign to sue season ticket holders who were unable to pay for their season tickets including a 75 year old grandma
Starting point is 01:35:06 so right there he hates old people that's what he hates mr six he sues redskins fans who are elderly uh the bad guy um he uh okay there was this weird story where he had a house with a slight view of the Potomac River in Washington, but he wanted a better view. So he worked with a crooked National Park Service official to cut down 130 trees to improve his river view. Oh, my God. Yes. I think if any listener who knows the Redskins or follows football probably knows about this guy and what a mega piece of shit he is. But it's all new to me. That official who he worked with stepped down from the National Park Service in 2015.
Starting point is 01:35:54 He retired but was brought back all of a sudden to run our national parks by President Donald J. Trump. Oh, wow. The web of evil that this enemy of Mr. Six is tangled up in is amazing. And let me add one more to it. As I said, his day two of owning Six Flags, the first thing he does, get rid of Mr. Six. We got to get rid of Mr. Six. Two weeks later, he decides to bring a buddy of his onto the board of directors
Starting point is 01:36:26 of six flags his old pal harvey weinstein oh my god with the justification that why by partnering with a hollywood titan like harvey now we can uh instead of you know mr six in the coasters all we're doing is appealing to teenagers we need to get families into the park so now we can Instead of you know Mr. Six And the coasters all we're doing is appealing To teenagers we need to get families into The park so now we can bring in Kids with Kid friendly characters like from Weinstein's Film Hoodwinked This is a real thing from
Starting point is 01:36:59 An article he thought We have to give Money to Harveyinstein for nothing so that we can license the all-important hoodwinked characters wow wow can you guys tell me humbled yeah oh and and well and sadly it's it's not even quite done but just before that can you guys name any fact about hoodwinked anything anything this was in 2005 15 years down the line can you say anything about hoodwinks i cannot okay i think uh with the presence of hood it's a like little red riding hood riff but it's right after shrek so it's all the characters probably talking about how something
Starting point is 01:37:48 is not even a thing we're doing things that are funny because they're random is that right but there's other fairy tale people yeah yeah yeah you know that yes a deconstructionist little red riding hood i don't know about the pop culture reference of it all but i i did look up that there is a a bear police officer played by exhibit hmm i do like that i like the sound of that yeah i kind of do too yeah um just wish you could put in a better movie um but there are not oh i was thinking i was like aren't there gnomes who fall in love and I'm realizing that is Gnomeo and Juliet correct correct when I was explaining all this to Erin I asked her the same
Starting point is 01:38:32 question can you tell me anything about hoodwinked and she was like is it the one like with mooses and I said no that's open season okay is it the one with like animals who are in the trash but they want to be in a nice house and i said no that's over the hedge it is this is i it's pretty impossible to tell
Starting point is 01:38:54 any of these apart wow yeah i know i had no i didn't i could know i'm not a single guess um anyway uh the the i mean literally there's been full articles like here's the 16 shittiest things dan snyder has done while owning things uh one of the crazier ones while he owns six flags is that he did a tie-in with some mattress company so that so for a little while six flags great escape in new york was selling mattresses in the theme park. What? Because of some deal he made. He did the same thing with the Redskins.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Like, buy the official Redskins mattress, and fans are walking by stores in the stadium like, why are there mattresses here? And then it happened in Six Flags six flags too and the mattresses were cost thirteen hundred dollars oh my god who would why would you be in a theme park just i mean i guess i know they'll deliver it to you but what would ever make you think yeah i better buy a mattress especially if it says six flags really big on it or well i guess not this is where he fucked up because he got rid of mr six and if it just had mr six's face really big everyone would buy it well now yeah that i would buy an rp this
Starting point is 01:40:13 guy is gonna have to inhabit the sector keeper and we're gonna have to fight him isn't like that he's completely going in league with those people i know yeah we had fights with people who once we we we decided that they people who once we we decided that they were villains and then we looked into them and it turned out they were like fine meanwhile leaving daniel snyder uh daniel snyder who by the way is not daniel snyder the nickelodeon producer who's perhaps an even more evil person than daniel snyder yeah just do a quick google on that one of them should be just locked up on general principle and the other should be locked up for everything they did
Starting point is 01:40:52 allegedly sure if you want just google yeah um okay so sorry and then we'll i'll i'll make this part quick um i'm reading about all this because all this just to say this is the kind of person who opposes mr six and and if i at one point in my life was someone who opposed mr six do i want to be on the side of this motherfucker this guy who's like destroying a forest to have a nicer view and hanging out with trump and weinstein um a bunch of bullshit he's also just continues to i think everyone's unhappy with his ownership of the redskins and he absolutely bungled six flags he only owned it for four years in which time that was enough time for them to get to chapter 11 um somehow bill gates was an investor in all this and he personally lost 122
Starting point is 01:41:47 million dollars because of daniel snyder who lost his entire investment it was all blown so he fucked up um and then i'm reading an article like he got kicked out as did the guy he installed as president mark shapiro i thought i was done with the evil pummeling. Mark Shapiro, who was for this amount of time was the president of Six Flags, who first of all, before I read all this, here's what he thinks of Mr. Six. Well, we have to meet with the ad camp, the ad company and evaluate where we are. The thing is, I don't know what Mr. Six stands for. How does he represent the company? What does he signify for our guests?'s not selling an experience he's a gimmick and i don't think a gimmick is the right way to sell six flags so fighting words now let
Starting point is 01:42:32 me tell you this guy is currently the president of endeavor and if you pay attention to any hollywood stuff you'll know that endeavor is the one of the big four agencies that is careening towards bankruptcy they're like absolutely fucked he did cut his salary in half to help everybody so now he only makes 1.5 million dollars a year um and then from one of his jobs the others being he's on the board of live nation papa john's oh and a company called equity residential which is the top contributor to a pack that right now as we speak at the height of the covid crisis is fighting housing affordability they gave so he's on the board of a company that gave three million dollars in rent money
Starting point is 01:43:19 to fight rent being more affordable um one more um you remember when papa john said there was a day of reckoning coming when he gave that weird sweaty interview and said there will be a day of reckoning it's all going to come out in that very same interview he said mark shapiro is a sex creep and should be in jail. What? Papa, he, this, the people who don't like Mr. Six are so bad that Papa John thinks they're pieces of shit. Is this the weirdest episode we've ever done? We might've just, between all of the, we all just live watched Digital Butts and Avenga Boys video. And now I'm learning about Papa John's enemies i truly feel crazy right now yeah no exactly having read all of it i am
Starting point is 01:44:13 exhausted so just let me let me just add up a couple bullet points uh if the people who we the very first thing we must do is get rid of mr six these are people that are good friends of trump and weinstein they've They're so creepy, they've made enemies of Papa John. They're currently on the wrong side of housing affordability and this racist
Starting point is 01:44:36 mascot. They're like current villains who ran six legs into the ground and yet are still running the world. These people are absolute pieces of shit. And to stand against Mr. Six is to stand with them. I stand with Mr. Six. Well, now it's a political statement to like Mr. Six.
Starting point is 01:44:55 And we have to stand up and say we love Mr. Six. There's no other way. There's no other way to be. You're with him or you're against him. Mr. Six laying low right now but i believe will emerge one day soon to remind us that it's not only playtime but more flags equals more fun and potentially also more rampant corruption but i mean who do you think fed all these leads to the press maybe someone close maybe an older respectable man well-dressed man uh you're saying he was a deep throat
Starting point is 01:45:35 i'm saying mr six may may be the mole maybe like taking it down from the inside wow damn damn yeah these bastards came in fired him he didn't he didn't just dance away he fought for his livelihood and he won they left the cut this if this was an old west movie they fucking got out of dodge and who was the last man standing mr six was mr six maybe he was communicating these messages through the dancing whoa if we had looked into it and realized it wasn't just dumb he was conveying something and not just that like if you let these people leave six flags and go on to run the world and be in charge of your rent they're gonna fuck you apart yeah he knew he knew in 2007 wow man this is yeah this is the weirdest episode we've ever done i will declare who knew yeah that mr six would lead to all kinds of like current
Starting point is 01:46:33 corruption stuff i think you know mr six i will say is conspicuously absent and i hope like dave chappelle he will reemerge he's probably sitting and thinking about what what can he say he's probably like he's biding his time but i know i know he'll be around we'll hear his comment on everything yes i mean it'll be uh it'll be he's probably thinking of what dance to do what dance will heal this nation yeah so i yes i hear a hero will rise i think um i think that like six flags obviously owns a character six flags probably owns marvel mcfay i think maybe you could do an all-stars of six flags characters uh marvel mcfay mr six mrs taz all the characters the j Jim Carrey Riddler.
Starting point is 01:47:26 An Avengers must rise. Yeah. Don't forget Little Six. Little Six, of course. And then I'm trying to think of any of the original characters from their Fear Fest that I can't think of. Oh, well. One of those characters, too. And they'll all be backed up by an army of poorly paid teens.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Yeah. And that's who you want on your back. Poorly paid teens saving your back. Yeah. They got nothing to lose. They're all hopped up on vape juice and fog juice. Fog juice. Fog juice. Yeah. Anyways. yeah fog juice fog juice um yeah anyways um it's uh so i just i feel back to inner corner i have i have to like him i'm pro him and not only for all those reasons but i i also realized something
Starting point is 01:48:17 i think i might have seen him the first time and like i say you know uh i thought i thought it was weird i thought it was weird he's weird in a bad way or random in a way that I don't like. But you know what? You know what he is, is he's not he's not IP. He's not you know, he's original IP, his original Six Flags IP. And he is a little weird and a little divisive. And as soon as these corporate fat cats came in, they didn't understand him. You know, we don't want him.
Starting point is 01:48:43 We need the guys. We need something we can trust, like the characters from Hood hoodwinked we need something that makes sense on a spreadsheet and mr six doesn't make sense on a spreadsheet he's uh he doesn't make any sense at all and that's why you have to support him i think supporting mr six whether or not you like him is to support the cause of keeping theme parks weird. Right. Right. I agree. I think you're right. I think we could put the Star Spangled Banner under that,
Starting point is 01:49:12 as you were saying it. That was such a beautiful statement, Scott. I think that's a good point, because we all bemoan the lack of original IP and weirdness in the parks. Everything now has to be a big movie you know and it is nice that this bizarre random old man who's not really connected to anything is related to six flags it would be nice to see him in the park still because you go well i only
Starting point is 01:49:38 get to see this old man here this is a special place there's a special character that i only can experience in one of these wonderful Six Flags parks. Like Figment and Dream Finder. That's right. I certainly like Figment and Dream Finder more, but it is the same syndrome we're talking about. It's characters you can only meet if you go to this specific place or like 19 specific places. Maybe he's not there. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Yes. Might just be in the ads uh look i like him now i absolutely like him now very good yeah i just want yeah let's let's let's expand it that's all i'm saying yeah yeah um so six flags reopens at some point we want to see him there we want to see him in a mask because he's a he's a role model and uh he can he can lead the way um but what else how can we expand his role um do we give him more rides um does he appear in the justice league ride does he join the justice league i love that that's great i think that absolutely should happen um i think you know what you could do is you could sell a mask that's even more, like that has more coverage
Starting point is 01:50:49 that is just a rubber latex Mr. Six head that has sort of the same kind of masking properties in the nose and mouth area. So you have just everyone walking around with Mr. Six faces on. Whoa. So, you know, the theme parks are coming back and they're going to require masks. You can't enter without a mask.
Starting point is 01:51:11 It's Six Flags nationwide if you can't enter without a Mr. Six mask. Yes, you have to. Yeah, you have to wear Mr. Six on your face. So it's just a bunch of sixes walking around. It'll be like Agent smith in the matrix i guess you'd have to wear the suit too to really make it look like that but maybe that's also part of it you have to wear a uh hazmat suit that looks like a black tuxedo with a red bow tie which i like i put it out there that i want to go to six flags
Starting point is 01:51:43 opening day in a hazmat suit if some sort of of publication will pay for all of it, I will cover it. But now I'd like to amend that to, I'd like you to pay for a tuxedo and a latex mask of Mr. Six that I can wear. Yeah. But it has, that has to be virus compliant. Yes, it has to have, inside the latex mask has to have one of the what is it the n95 what is that is that the name of the mask yes this is like the the hospital mask yeah it's r34 i think you need an r34 mask okay i'm an iphone 65 mask those are all good masks. Just take your pick, but you'll choose. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:28 That's great. You know, there's a powerful moment I think about a lot at the end of the film Volcano, where ash has fallen on everyone in the Beverly Center area where the volcano was erupting and um a little girl is asking you do you see your daddy somewhere and uh and she says i don't know who's who everyone looks the same and cuts around everyone covered in ash the in and which should be a destructive act but it's reminding everyone that we're all human and that it's on. We're all in this together. Transcends the racial lines, age, everything. And I think the same thing would happen in this reopen Six Flags where everyone's in a Mr. Six mask.
Starting point is 01:53:17 A little kid would say, we're all the same. We all scary. We're all the same. We're all a little creepy same We're all a little creepy We're all a little From Candy Valley a bit But metaphorically Beautiful though
Starting point is 01:53:34 Mr. Six offered me the chance To buy a plastic soda cup I can refill all season long Mr. Six Offered me that if I buy a churro for $1.50, I'll get to stay in the park for six extra hours.
Starting point is 01:53:51 That's the real, it's a real deal. Yeah. The coffin challenge is different this year. Mr. Six is in there with you. Doing a very sensual dance there's raining on you in the coffin now there's water being poured into the coffin as you dance
Starting point is 01:54:13 with mr six um well it's in question whether any of us could survive the mr six coffin challenge but i will say that we've survived podcast the ride. I think that's beautiful. This is the future. I'll co-opt the thing that people say in a mean way on Twitter. This is the future liberals want, but I mean it. I want the future. This is the future the left wants is
Starting point is 01:54:39 six flags where everyone's in a Mr. Six mask. Yeah. In coffins. I think, yeah, i think this is going to take off this is going to get past the podcast this is going to be so popular people won't even know it comes from our podcast oh yeah where did that idea originate man i don't know i they say from three geniuses who didn't even want credit so selfless were they it's like in music videos where like music is outlawed but then the people rise up and they'll find like a very old jason sheridan and ask like is it true was all is it true that you and two other men created this thing that made the world a utopia? And Jason will go, it's true.
Starting point is 01:55:26 All of it. Um, well, beautiful stuff, uh, for more very beautiful stuff. And I'm sure a lot of great photos of Mr. Six Halloween masks and different variants and creepy CGI,
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Starting point is 01:56:17 when mr six was brought back post the grim period of the most horrible men in america owning the parks uh he was in charge of the fun-o-meter he would rate how many flags different things were somebody said he's our he's our raider he's mr six is the raider that was a new way they they thought to use him uh for example uh throwing a baseball at your dad's crotch, two flags. This is in an ad, I guess. Riding a Six Flags roller coaster, six flags. More flags, more fun. Yes, that's right.
Starting point is 01:56:54 More flags equals more fun. Should we adopt that? For a show? Yeah. um just uh yeah i mean the problem is that we're stuck in this authoritarian itunes review system where it's five stars and we can't customize it just for our reviews to make it six flags yeah right but you could write six flags you could say in the review written part it's it's actually six flags that they get yes um so if you're if you want to rate and review us then say something make it a question like something you like about the show um listening to listening to three guys talk about a creepy old man for uh an hour and a
Starting point is 01:57:41 half six flags more flags more fun or whatever fill in the blank of what you like about the show right yeah anything you like yeah um but more venga boys talk please i'm sure that's going to be high on the list of wants the promise of more venga boys talk six flags which will make no sense to anyone no one's gonna read any of these and want to listen to the podcast but whatever so we were flooding it with nonsense is what we want and if you think this is the weirdest episode uh let us know if it's six weird flags that's a scale of weirdness how in there yeah rated and what the amount of weird flags this episode is. Sure. Well,
Starting point is 01:58:28 we got our plan. You've got your marching orders. And, uh, while we should be wrapping it up, I did miss one thing and I, I kind of can't help, but,
Starting point is 01:58:36 uh, uh, throw this on because when we talked about doing this episode, uh, part of it came from, uh, the discovery that there was a different version of the Venga Boys song that had a little bit of crossover with our friend Bug Main. So here to play us out is a from Kids WB ad, a customized version of the Venga Boys song that in this case is called, we like to putty, uh, play us out.
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