Podcast: The Ride - New Universal Parks! New Disney Red Tape!

Episode Date: January 20, 2023

We take a look at recent announcements from Disney and Universal. Including a year round haunt in Vegas, and a park in Texas. Plus, parking is free at Disney World hotels agin, but you still have to park reservations, but that's kind of changing? Tomorrowland Transit Authority Episode up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! Warning, the following podcast contains complimentary highbrow candy, new rules, a sandwich squatter, and a Texas-sized grab bag of topical theme park topics like new Universal Parks and

new Disney red tape. Yay. It's podcast Podcast The Ride, where one of my co-hosts has slipped by for months without me noticing that his Twitter bio reads, The Little Wooden Messy Boy of Podcast The Ride. I'm Scott Gairdner. I will let the listener guess who, which, as I introduce, Mike Carlson. I'm here. Was that your bio no that's not my bio i did not write that i'm a little wooden messy boy that would i would not do that well then that leaves only jason sheridan yeah that's right well for years it said the messy boy of podcasts

arrived and then uh maybe when we were on blank check or or when Griffin wasn't on our show, I was called the little wooden boy. Little wooden boy, yes. This was the stone on us. You know, peanut butter and jelly. Two great tastes that taste great together. Peanut butter and chocolate, I guess. This is peanut butter and poison. This is a ghastly phrase that you've just had used as the the primary way to get to know you

you have used this uh this this insane concoction i just don't it's been right under my nose this whole time i didn't see it till earlier today like well we gotta get right into this i also included this audio program as well you mean the link to what we're doing yeah yeah oh sure well that's good news but uh this is i don't know here's what because i i wasn't a big fan of the messy boy i think i've spoken about this on the show anti-messy boy little little wooden boy made me laugh this i liked but then you put it all together and you know what's weird is that i think if it was the other i think if you switched it if it was the little messy wooden boy then wooden boy is the primary aspect but the way you've structured this keeps messy boy the main thing and then wooden and messy next to each other

there's just some like well there's some connotations to this if it's keeping you up at night i'll gladly change it i don't think i was thinking hey jason don't back down oh okay hey stand your ground here you want me to not change it well i'm just saying we're starting this this is the start of this discussion and we don't know how it's going to come out on the other side i don't want you to give in just yet and i haven't lost sleep about it yet i've only found out about it an hour ago or so you liked something and i saw it like I'm like, wait a minute. This has been waiting for me here.

I think you should add a couple more words to it. Oh, really? Do you have any pitches? What could even be in the league of these words? Messy and wooden, yes. Okay. Let's see. Let's say like naughty, maybe?

Well, naughty, I don't know. We're getting awfully risque. The getting the naughty messy wooden boy the the rambo yeah but i like naughty better than rambunctious in this in this uh regard uh you recently but there was don't forget your your lifelong go-to word rammy rammy rammy might fit in here pretty well yeah um i the word the phrase is uh unnerving that's true yeah i will admit that support great but i do like it when i like it on jason's profile so i guess i'm not saying i don't necessarily all right i just needed to air it out i needed to like get get everyone's feelings Here's what I'm trying to remember how Messy Boy

Came around Yeah I really don't remember I've forgotten twice as much as I've remembered Is that even from the show? Isn't that something you just invented on your own? I swear it was from the show Maybe it is I think I added wooden

Recently After the great Pinocchio We all loved on the show maybe it is feels like it must have been i think i added wooden recently yeah well you had yeah yeah no kyo uh we all loved yeah how about i'm a whittle stinker after and like on a baby voice parenthetical like in parentheses yeah i'm a messy little the whittle wooden rammy messy stinker yeah the boy thing is your hold hold up on that is yes i've spoken again i am i've been wherever this this came from this i'm a little something boy it's something you you do it you we it's it's out there in the I mean, I could easily do it with my interests. I'm a little wine boy. I don't like the sound of that.

I am, I am a person who likes to drink some wine from time to time. That, this is, this is an adult way of presenting thoughts and ideas. What about the little something boy just implies you're like, you're like writhing in it that you're in this case. I don't know that you're like, you're like rolling rolling around in mess i'm a little sippy wine boy no me drink me drink oh sippies you managed to you keep finding ways to punch these yeah i i it's not punching up or down it's like um it's like a hard straight right you know yeah uh it's punching them into into disgusting corner there's some of them into the gutter it gets into a weird territory it's adult yeah it's adult baby talk which i think is generally unnerving i think that's what we're

going for and that's why that's why i'm pushing it even more towards i think but jason's yeah jason's profile is the most can we do you looked up my profile is recently um yours is a a call to it's your it's part of your effort to get a batman forever sequel made oh yeah yeah my profile on twitter recently has changed that i asked if anyone's a producer, please get in touch with me. Patriot, small business, hero. No, no, that's not. You're looking at the wrong Michael Carlson. It says, please contact me at michael at batmanforever2.com.

Do you have that address? Do you have that domain? That is an email address I own. Really? Yeah. Well, this hasn't been talked about. No, it hasn't, yeah. Wow, wow.

Does that mean, so you then own the domain batForever2.com? I own the domain of Batman Forever 2 right now. Geez. Wow. Wow. That is a thing I own. I did it.

It was maybe late one night. Is your thought at this point, let's, here's a dark thing to address. The current state of Val kilmer yeah very sad but it led to this this real moment of heart that i think people really liked in top gun maverick do you think that is it is it dealt with in in a way like do you do you have to do the same do you just maybe like okay well now that scene happens 10 times if it worked for top gun maverick then we just like blow it into infinity it's a good question um i think really what i was thinking is that we would sort of reassemble uh like dialogue val dialogue like the mark hamill uh mandalorian scenes where he's young luke skywalker oh sure

yes just deep fake it so because i want honestly, maybe everyone is young in my Batman Forever 2, just deep fake everyone so they look like they're from like 1997. Well, another kind of elephant in this room is Nicole Kidman, who is just like forever now associated with the AMC. Right, that's true. It managed to top Dr. Chase Meridian as the main thing nicole kidman will be known for which do you find that do you think that helps or is it distracting like do you need to get her back into the 1995 look well that's why yeah that's what the deep fake will be for because

yeah i don't think people will be confused now they'll be like well what's the psychiatrist but this is the amc lady and they will be just very confused uh at that so yeah i want it i mean the movie will be have so much tech like so much cgi it'll technically be a cartoon it's really what my vision for it is it could be nominated for best anime best animated yeah even though technically it's live action it's actually more technically a cartoon so everyone will look just like fresh from 1996 so we'll have to like scan in everybody's face like via movies uh like from that era like whatever a truman show jim carrey was at 97 so scan his face in there because he's coming back you got a tough gambit with tommy lee jones

and two-face because the scan works for one half of him but how do you apply makeup to a digital deep fake face how do you do the dark side of two-faced i think you you get to have a little creative liberty like the um into the spider verse you know some characters had more artistic flourishes that were like nods to comic book artists oh yeah there's there's characters in totally other styles i see yeah yeah i'll say this though in my batman forever two two faces dead really because he dies in the movie oh wait does he yeah whatever that what happens at the end he's well there uh uh he's gonna like he's i forget if he's he puts chase and he puts robin on two sides of like a big contraption and drops them both

and then batman decides he can save both of them so he's like shooting down the whole like this long sort of tunnel thing and he saves both of them and then i believe two-faced like kind of on like he's about to shoot batman he's gonna harvey you gotta use your coin harvey and he goes oh yeah and he does a coin and then batman throws a bunch of coins at him oh that's right and he's like that's the silliest and then he like and he falls so i guess he could have survived it but it is not an option to not catch any coins ah coins more important than my own life yes he gets very confused to face an arch master criminal very confused when like seven coins are thrown at him he falls to his death uh and then there's like a big chris o'donnell like like yes vengeance has been served but the whole thing is that he wanted to kill him before but

now he didn't kill him but he gets to see him punished so maybe he's conflicted now because he he learned whatever so that's what happened so batman luckily uh in uniform went to like a sandwich place on the way to all of this yes he just had a pocket of loose change yeah so in an arcade it could have been an arcade sure stop by for a little fun yeah exactly we had a big night Of work ahead of him Yeah right So he knew This might come up This place has tokens Not coins

But that'll do Doesn't really matter He knew this Yeah he knew this came up So but yeah No in my version of Batman Forever 2 Two-Face is dead

He is dead I don't have a plan To bring him back Okay There will be a new Scarecrow is in Batman Forever 2 Wow

Played by either These are big reveals Played by either the rumors at the time jeff goldblum or howard stern it how it has to be yes i think you gotta go with stern because it's more bizarre it's more bizarre and it'd be one of one of the only films that howard stern acts in yeah like the second movie going after private part yeah yeah we end up with stern movie number two yep over 25 years after the first one again deep fake he looks like he did in private parts so that was because if you if you don't if you weren't alive when we were alive these were the rumors of the day is that the sort of even though burton didn't do those forever and batman robin they were still technically all four in the same universe but the rumor was oh the fifth one is going to have scarecrow and it's going to be jeff goldblumer

it's going to be howard stern playing the character uh egghead can be played by rudolph giuliani after his star hosting stint on saturday night live he's going to be in office and they were and he was also going to be egg kid if we used really really giliani for maybe like batman forever three we will not deep fake him he will look as he is now and it might be a problem because he definitely looks a little bit like danny devito penguin from batman returns be confusing it'll be kind of confusing so uh yeah look i'm glad we started like uncovering this there was a lot in the bio situation what does your bio say um i think i say things that i've worked on okay i don't have a it's fun but no not not as much but i but i say steely dan and wine in there just to get out two of the i'm

because i guess i'm a little steely dan boy everyone happy now are you happy my little earsies makes me a little steely dan boy my my little ears ease enjoyment or my little uh steely dan is a treat for my little earsies that's that's what it is okay good sometimes i'm a little gaucho boy but mainly i'm a little nightfly boy great all right we're doing the parlance listener if you have suggestions for words to add to jason's bio knowing that it's in flux yeah email them to uh michael at batman forever forever.com real email you email me at it i don't know that i'll email you back but what is the full uh at batman forever 2.com yeah and then it's the number two the number batman forever 2.com okay yes great okay well now that all that is out of the way we can get to some important news

all the news occurring in theme park world there was a lot there were a lot of drops i feel like i feel like one one particular day or a few particular days there was there was just a ton that we have not gotten to address well one uh i mean between the two big companies disney and universal one went for quantity and one went for quality um i mean are you saying that there is not quality to the recent announcements of the walt disney i mean there was just i feel like they got uh they got this news that universal was about to announce stuff so then they're like oh we gotta do something we gotta do some stuff that stuff we were working on uh-huh release the stuff release the stuff well which i mean let's get to it guys parking is free at disney world hotels again holy shit like why were you

guys bullshitting for so long at the beginning not that you were you're holding back the the earth-shattering news that listeners assuredly all know uh the cost situation of hotels and they were free and now they're not wait were they free was they were they were free for a long time for decades they were free and if you're a hotel guest a disney hotel guest you could park at the parks for free okay that was the other thing so it's just like oh we're staying really far from animal kingdom let's drive over you know. Oh, I see. Right. And not for, when did it shift? Reopening, I think, for the pandemic.

Oh, yeah, that's a good question. Around then, I think. I don't know if it was that specific, but I think so, yeah. It is recent, though. Jason's double checking it. But yeah, there was another one of those, like uh it's all designed to be like we're gonna do a little away with a little of the mr chapex stuff we're going to go backwards three years when things were also crowding oh i take that back 2018 they started charging for it well

there you go it's a mr eiger decision yeah wow how about that i was wrong shuddering his his baby the parking payment program what do you mean this isn't my company anymore why did i come back they here's what my here's my my guess then is that with that new information my guess is that they looked at the numbers and said should we bring down because hotel prices are insane at this point i wonder if they looked at the numbers and went well should we bring those down or should we just like bring the ten dollar charge down and they went oh yeah the ten dollar to whatever twenty dollar charge that would be my guess yeah because they're because we'll see these are like encouraging things but i still as i said before i still have the feeling

that like some of the annoying changes they're like we like those and we're gonna keep those like they're gonna like and they've then all of these announcements sort of to me feel like we're gonna like play a little bit of a shell game a little three-card monty with you and and you'll like kind of go oh yeah that sounds good but really a lot of the annoying things are still around yeah what do you mean uh don't forget the i mean i've been like shivering with excitement about the news that the park hopping hour at disneyland is moving from 1 p.m to 11 a.m you can jump between parks now two hours earlier yeah how have we not we should have like dropped everything and started recording one at 3 a.m whatever it took when this news dropped i know very exciting why have we been sleeping doesn't it feel like a shell the shell game the three the jayston played in new york i think

right didn't you play the show before i didn't play three guard monte dealer am i mixing up my story three card monte okay it was the table that used to be something else it was oh they were selling weed at what you were selling the fake weed and they said it wasn't fake but you you knew it was fake because you smelled it fake this doesn't seem real the little weed skeptic boy yeah sniff sniff i'm the little skeptic boy okay yes so in florida you are in california you can go you can park up at 11. But in Florida, you're forgetting, if you are an annual pass holder, you don't have to make a reservation for which park you're going to if it's after 2 p.m.

We're at risk of me not making it through some of these sentences. Unless, yeah. I'm like, I'm drifting as they're in motion. This is the stuff I really wanted to see if blood would finally, like, drip out of these sentences. I'm like, I'm drifting as they're in motion. This is the stuff I really wanted to see if blood would finally like drip out of your ear. We're trying to see. Okay, so in Dizzy Land, it's 11am but at Dizzy World, it's 2pm but

only for annual pass holders unless it's the weekend and you're going to the Magic Kingdom, then you still have to rest. This is like you're throwing a bunch of quarters up in the air and i'm yelling i'm going to trip and fall this will be my demise now at disneyland you get all ticket holders now get free photopass photos but at disney world you get free photopass photos if you bought genie plus

that day right i got a lot of nice bottles in the house we i was just talking about wine and now it makes me want to go inside maybe i need to um i don't i shouldn't make leaving the episodes a regular it'd be funny though jason and i'll talk we can get it we'll finish the rest of this one of us has left an episode yeah come back well i think about it look i'm good i'm all right we'll see we'll see where this goes i um okay look all right we can come back to these things i feel like we need to let's let's talk about okay now that you know the tenor of what disney's announcements were in the face of the universal announcements which are new parks at weird places that parks aren't yeah like brand new as their news has been for the last couple years what are we doing we're thinking about shifting the universal uh frequent globers program the the price is going to go from now uh you can park for instead of 30 it will be 28

no they're building a new fucking theme park with Frankenstein and Mario. And it's already, that's where they've been at. And now it's moving to, they're going to Texas. Universal's going to Texas. Yeah, they've shifted the focus. I think Epic Universe pretty much ready to go, at least creatively. Still plenty of construction to be done. And they are set on Fantastic Beasts still. They are committed to be done uh-huh but and there's and they are set on fantastic beasts still they are committed to fantastic they have not announced exactly what's

i'm a big youtube watcher of theme park stop i don't know if alicia stella who's a very active goes to a lot of the parks in orlando. She narrates these videos because they go through and they dig and find patents and they find, I guess, plans. What do you call them? Literally, like- You have to file something with the state. Yeah, they go through that and find stuff. So, I've probably stolen information from this and not cited my source before about

Epic Universe. So, I apologize for that. Devious as the Ridddler that's look two-faced he's my guy and spice sugar look i love all those villains so yeah they probably infected my personality to some degree um but she has all these videos about each separate land long videos about like what the actual layout of the land is and what's a restaurant what's this and i believe fantastic beasts only might be represented in the uh exterior of the ride and maybe the area but the ride is not fantastic beast based okay and this will not be called fantastic beasts no way yeah it's going to be ministry of magic it's going to be Ministry of Magic. It's going to be, I forget, the Lady in Pink bad guy from Harry Potter. J.K. Rowling.

Oh, yeah. J.K. Rowling herself is the villain in the ride. Oh, I'm never going on that one. You just have to, yeah, it's a virtual reality thing where you have to just try to avoid the tweets. You just have to look away. Just remember everything before 2003 or so yeah

you're fighting against something called mumsnet and you're like what the fuck why is the most worst hate organizations in the world it's gonna be a scarier ride than the monsters ride that's what they say um no but uh so yeah i think the fantastic beasts it's quietly i see while some of the exteriors are still like the French Ministry of Magic, which is the Ministry of Magic in those movies. It's really, call it Wizarding World Part 3. Oh. Yeah.

Well, it's been sitting there in my head, not knowing all this, as potentially the least sound universal decision of recent. But this seems good if they're shifting away yeah it's a very cursed franchise uh yes i don't think grindelwald is in the land i don't think there's a crimes of grindelwald uh attraction and they won't be playing the johnny depp jeff beck album well they will be doing that they will be doing that for a couple years in tribute jeff beck album well they will be doing that they will be doing that for a couple years yeah so anyway those videos are if you want i mean there's a lot of spoiler type stuff but i probably you'll forget a lot of it by the time the land opens up but it's great there's some i was just watching a donkey kong explanation of what that minecart coaster is going to be

it sounds amazing oh boy sounds so good it sounds great i yeah she also she posted a picture she's like i spent on the cork board for a while i didn't get very far on it like the day all the texas stuff broke and it says like additional universal parks texas question mark oh right right yeah wow well now we're here there is a there's no name to say, but they, Universal is building a, well, it's not, I don't even want to say small. I think the property they have is almost as big as Islands of Adventure is what I saw. So it is sizable and it is a kid oriented or kid or family oriented theme park that is a different premise and field than the existing universal parks which this is pretty new because they've had kind of a template that they've used even the international ones are still it's the studio gate and here is uh right uh transformers or here

is simpsons or what have you here's what here's what here's what force what yeah they're they're letting go of uh-huh the face of the organization um so yeah it's and it's it's beautiful concept art it it looks great it's like in the shiny and color-y yeah it looks would be the word it's like in the vein i think of like a lego land or something where it's primarily for kids things but i mean from the art it looks like it's themed it doesn't look like it's light on theming but obviously anything can change but yeah it looks like it looks like maybe it's like five different sort of kid land stitched together or something yeah yeah and you could kind of infer vibe wise what some of them are like trolls seems pretty clearly like one of them and maybe there's a i mean i i saw a list that was just name checking i don't is it despicable me

more of that is there shrek is there kung fu panda is there the bad guys they've they've got a lot to work with with this this dreamworks situation and it's cool that dreamworks is willing to use these characters outside of you know where they got it right and perfect which is the the water park in the american dream mall it's cool they're willing to like deviate from the gold standard of how you use their characters you know if you think about it like the american dream mall is like the generation you know the beta testing you know getting the kinks out you know not to me not to there's there's there's not a kink to be found in that place it's not a lot to be found in that zero king can be yeah that's why there's less room for kinks when uh the place is

less than half occupied um It looks like there's In the back left It looks like Jurassic Park-ish So I mean there's like Kid Jurassic Camp I always say crustacean Which is of course a crab or a sea life Cretaceous?

Cretaceous is the word Oh Netflix right? It's like a kid's cartoon So I wonder if there's like dinosaur encounters or something back there Under end of Jurassic Park It's like a kid's cartoon. I wonder if there's dinosaur encounters or something back there. The under end of Jurassic Park. A non-terrifying Jurassic Park experience. Yeah.

There's a seemingly long boat ride of some kind in there. Yeah, the centerpiece of it seems like a big lagoon with a boat ride. Yeah. So this is not just some cheap bunch of rides. I mean, some of the rides are going to definitely be maybe like off the shelf stuff but as far as theming it looks like they're doing their due diligence of like giving the parents like us what we want which is theming lots of trees water this is what we want in the park we don't want just flat in these cheap rides give us a little finesse you know size wise uh i have uh 97 acres which is about a quarter of the full universal uh orlando resort uh property okay i don't know how far out that goes like how far

does that include like cabana bay i'm assuming it includes that first stretch of hotels i don't know if includes the big like super hotels yeah well that's pretty major that's a big footprint and i think expansion plans are caked into it like they'll start with a certain amount but keep building from their hotel at the front hotel is the entrance, seemingly. Yeah, it's got that. They have it at Disneyland Paris, where you have sort of the hotel right at the front of the park, which is also going to be,

which I guess is like a holdover idea from Westcott, where they were going to have all the hotels sort of around it, like in their World Showcase. Oh, yeah. That is the berm of the hotels. I mean, it sounds great and it's it seems innovative to do a different kind of park in a different kind of market i guess one question is though just try to picture 20 years ahead is this thriving in 20 years because they've committed

to it and they pull it off well or is this like a defunct land topic like is it possible that they just cannot get people to this location like to think of this part of texas it's part of the dallas fort worth area frisco texas the suburb of dallas frisco do they what if they can't get people to frisco i'm trying to think of like usually what does this type of thing in is it looks like shit it's embarrassing and it fails within a year i feel like yeah now i guess disney quest lasted forever like for a long time or a pretty long pretty long time limped along but within the confines of disney property but this looks better than disney quest yeah yes because we yeah because like we i knew disney

quest wasn't what i thought it was the first time i went well a lot of the ones that crash and burn are indoors this does too um i was people have been alerting us to to uh sega world sydney something i didn't know about and i watched the review time video about this attempt at an indoor sega theme park in sydney australia that looked really cool but it also completely seemed like something you go to once and then never again right and i think the indoor nature of indoor indoor just lends itself to, it's never going to change. That is the same, as with like a lot of Epcot pavilions. Yeah.

It's just something where, Indoor is weird. Yeah. Yeah. Indoor, I'm trying to think of a good indoor. Well, I mean,

I think the things people think of is, like Dave and Buster's. Right. Because that's what a lot of this stuff gets like, you know, cheapened the budgets gets cut so much you essentially have a family entertainment center yeah the dubai warner brothers dubai world which i think has some cool stuff in it is indoors is that working or not i don't know this is one of those where they like they'll never say yeah this is a streaming platform

like it is not in their interest to admit that nobody's going well if you're dealing with a sovereign wealth fund i like i don't know how much they ever admit fault i don't think we're gonna i mean we could send an email but i don't know if we're gonna be able to tell anytime i've ever seen a video it looks like there's seven people in there yes yeah but maybe and there's so carefully spread even with stuff to do that it hides the the north of 20 000 visitors every day i that's very possible i remember it took like a year or two to find a video of the batman ride we're just like this has been open for a couple months and i'm like oh obviously somebody's gonna have a ride through video soon and the answer was no they that's not that took forever to happen not a good sign so yeah anytime i see video of it it does not look like it's packed

but i don't know but indoor is weird if you're trying to do something there's a feeling of there's a feeling of it being i'm trying to think like depressing depressing or limited like limited in a way like it doesn't feel when the open sky is there maybe your imagination is able to easy like easier think that it's i don't know what am i i'm searching for the answer here or water parks great wolf lodge certainly seems to be expanding but that also uh as we've heard drives the adults insane yeah no but i i smaller stuff indoors is fine but i think the attempt to do something that feels like it's on the scale of a disney or some or universal yeah that's why this stuff is when it fails yeah it's between great wolf lodge size and and bigger theme park yeah so i wonder if it'll help it that it's not that they aren't

attempting a i do think it will giant theme park at once i don't know maybe it works yeah i think so i mean uh this area is being built up as we we mentioned uh before we start recording i was joking about like the pga of america is moving their headquarters to this frisco texas like area that's being built up this is professional golf you're saying yeah it'll be the headquarters of of pro a lot of you know a lot of guys moved away to texas over the pandemic for free speech is that what this is yeah well that's what universal's doing is that what universal's doing i think they're doing i think it's a very business friendly state and I think it's got a lot of land that's still cheap.

Yeah. And I don't know, I feel like if a company the size of Comcast or Disney is committing to a full size theme park, they know like, all right, we can't close it. Like our stock will just eat shit if we close this. You would think so so yeah that's why i think they're gonna put the budget into it and it'll work because i'm trying to think is

there an example of something where like it looked like it was the theming budget of a major theme park that completely ate shit that's so you're saying not hard rock park not hard rock park no yeah it kind of all depends on how it yeah does it feel authentic right like it a fully imagineer not in this situation at whatever you call it yeah but like um yeah is is it as high end of an experience as those and i don't know concept i think it could be do they get i don't know if they do get budget slashed because this is the company that isn't yeah they're spending money right now and yeah so so i would hope somebody at the top of this faceless multinational corporation realizes that we have to pump a bunch of money to make it look okay so people keep coming back now to flip over back to the other side i i say this already i just for a

quick check-in i i'm uh just because on this topic of spending money um josh tomorrow daddy tomorrow quoted the last couple days as saying we have no shortage of money we want to make sure we do the biggest things the coolest things, the things that represent the future. I mean, the same thing you said at the tease of a D23 speech where then you announced nothing about the land that's about the future. If you have no shortage of money and want to do the biggest things, where are those announcements?

Let's get them going. I hear that. I don't know. I'm not sure. He took the public speaking course that like obama and pete budaj took where it's just like you are optimistic but in a confusing way like if you think about it in a general way yeah like what did what what did they say it's a very generalized optimism. So, yeah, you know, I... What this company has is a generalized optimism. And the pause makes you think that I'm carefully considering every word that I'm saying. Yeah, absolutely.

And through the word storytelling in there, you put some of that Disney flair on. That's how his, DeMauro's speech writers, he just says like, put storytelling in 24 more times and then i'll go out yeah it's um yeah i don't it would have been nice if when they were trying to announce fun stuff they had a actual fun thing to announce because there was a couple days of news cycle of just like basic like uh there'll be like changes to the fine print on the agreement you signed when you buy your ticket. Like the fine print is changed. All these announcements are the most boring. You have to be dry.

In the weeds. In a way that not all of the hosts of this theme park podcast are. Look, even I needed to brush up a little. I was reading like the Arthur Levine, the regular, is that his name? The regular longtime theme park journalist. You're asking the wrong guy, my man. He wrote for USA Today for a long time and about.com. About theme parks is his sub stack newsletter you can subscribe to.

So I read his coverage of a lot of this stuff and i read the disney tourist blog coverage and then i was like wait let me see what disney how disney is describing this and sure enough they had posts on the disney parks blog and it was i had never seen this before it was like the post about disney world went by the way this is just for disney world click here for the post about disneyland and then the disneyland one had the same that had the like by the way this is disneyland make sure to click disney world and they are just different enough to be very annoying yeah because what we want is just like a reservation's gone no like that would have been like something that would have been

worth us you know get going to each other's houses shaking us out of bed and going let's do the podcast right now reservations are gone that's something worth talking getting excited about anyone come harass me we can do the pop-ins break through my window our beloved pop-ins to disneyland that are gone yeah yeah but yeah that's not what happened or how about like avengers ride oh how about it like let's maybe i'll just go above reservations hey don't get greedy yeah there's a lot of contracts expiring for that sort of thing as jason said you ain't racing yet you know calm down we're just getting started here. I'm looking for reservations. Sorry to be blue-skying it.

We got a 10-year plan here. Number one, end of year five, reservations gone. End of year 10, parking still remains free, and the park hopping time is 10 a.m. Wow. That's what I'm looking for in a 10-year plan for the Disney parks. Well, some may say you're a dreamer. You're not the only one.

Yeah. So, yes. Now, Daddy Tomorrow did say there's going to be more changes. So, he's also teasing more changes to what we're talking about. Times you can park hop. Confusing parking situation. Like all of this, I think there's going to be more announcements. New colors on our calendars. Right.

A different, maybe a different prompt to enter your credit card to buy things on the app. You know, maybe stuff like that. Changing out characters who appear when it says oops something went wrong with our website new character right new characters the newest marvel character will be the one that says oops now wow it'll be like a character who was on a show that very week right wow yeah so like loki's variant if it's the new season of loki he's gonna be the one he's gonna have like his finger up on his mouth like oopsie i'm a little oopsie boy. He's going to say, sorry, we don't take Apple Pay anymore, but we do take Zelle. Check out Zelle.

Uh-huh. They might take, maybe that's going to be announced too. They're partnering with Zelle. Or maybe there'll be an announcement about the potato balls at the Porto's that's going to open in downtown Disney, which this is news, and maybe I'm transitioning too early here. The Porto's, I believe, is Wait, no, the Porto's, excuse me,

false alarm. The Porto's is not We gotta buckle up here. La Brea Bakery is closing. It's closed. By the time you're hearing this, La Brea Bakery is no more. The downtown Disney Anaheim

La Brea Bakery has been there since day one and again sector one i'm hearing some of you will be hearing this for the first time and you'll be uh you know going through a lot of emotions here no more okay sandwiches everybody yeah but okay sandwiches guess what's moving in for a temporary fix? The king of Okay Sandwiches. The king of couch surfing at downtown Disney. Earl of Sandwich coming in to La Brea Bakery. I briefly forgot, and I thought Porto's moving in there. That is not the case.

They have not announced the Porto location. That's much too interesting. Robert Earl's throwing his backpack down. He's like, is it cool if I hang out here for a little while, my man? Scott, could you do the voice in that line? Just for a couple months. That's all it will take. Then we will find our next exciting location

where we could feed all the hungry construction workers. Just enough time to set up the coke freestyle machine and then also disassemble the coke freestyle machine yes so that my little hands have been clapping and clapping all day not actually making contact because my arms are too little for my hands to connect now this is actually not a disney decision this is the labrea baker bakery company no it's interesting i did not know that uh they they're closing the one on labrea to the original one really yeah and they're just focusing on like supplying other places wow brand will exist you will still be able to get La Brea bread. Your airport routine is unchanged.

Scott rolled his eyes so hard when he said that last sentence. Yeah, I just realized the false energy I had powering through that sentence just buttered out. Yeah, so there's a lot of exciting... Oh, I guess this is sort of close. San Fransokyo is starting to be built a california venture as well there's the first signs of some construction yeah they drained the lagoon so they drained there's a dry lagoon everybody you think universal's doing stuff universal you have a whole

new theme park well yeah well guess what we have a dry lagoon take a look at that you can't have a future wet lagoon without a dry one you can't get the wet lagoon that was already there back and wet again without dry that is a disney quote that's a walt quote that they're going to put on the construction walls you can't have a wet lagoon before a dry one you know there's something that walt disney said that gave me a lot of comfort in the darkest days of the pandemic yeah you can't have a dry lagoon wait you can't have a wet lagoon without he messed it up in his speech he couldn't remember it either so uh that's that covers the disney news right i think that might be all of it i had some quick hits uh runaway railway is opening with everyone's favorite a virtual queue at 7 a.m

that's right virtual queue baby we're back lord is rise of resistance still virtual queue no no it's not lightning lane but is there a standby i think there's a standby so it's standby and lightning okay the lightning lane the tweet tweets above uh funny lightning lane stuff i i like and sometimes maybe it's being misrepresented i don't know but it would be okay the lightning lane the tweets above uh funny lightning lane stuff i i like and sometimes maybe it's being misrepresented i don't know but it would be like the lightning lane for big thunder is 50 minutes long or something and it's like stretched all the way back to galaxy's edge and you're like that's not it doesn't seem like this is working very well uh it's all working fantastic all of these new terms that we've had to learn i was the one who was wrong in all of the episodes where I had to learn all the terms.

Because now the terms are terms that we love and terms that work. Yeah. How could I have scoffed? Genie Plus, Lightning Lane. It's like they become part of just the woodwork. Magic Key. We love our Magic key system which is available for four hours or so several months ago and then you do not have the ability to pay

disney to be there all the time anymore no well i'll say this they put them on sale yesterday again we're showing everyone how the sausage is made so now you can figure out exactly when we're showing everyone how the sausage is made. So now you can figure out exactly when we're recording this, which is really exciting. But they put Magic Keys on sale yesterday. I'm back in the program, baby. I did it. I'm back. You're back. Now, for this, I just had to screen grab the Scott Gustin tweets because I could not understand what was happening.

It just seemed so, I mean, I i already have one but it already seemed like so confusing i i just want to read this one verbatim new past sales are available online only note new past sales will be paused each night at 10 p.m pacific time guests will remain in the queue overnight as long as they as long as they remain connected to the network and keep their browser window open, sales resume the following day at 9 a.m. Pacific time. Here's the funny thing. I read all of that, and I didn't realize how absurd it was until you just read it again. Because that is ridiculous.

You have to stay. The queue is paused. But it goes overnight. You have to camp out by your computer. First off, don't do this on a tablet or a phone. Get a desktop or laptop, and then turn off all of the sleep. Put hard drive to sleep. Put screen to sleep.

Just leave it on to be safe. Use all your power through the night. I don't think this is necessary. It's a lot this is a we're describing a cue to get a pass to be just to to have an it this a thing that again that we used to just you want when you get one right and now you have to camp out all night digitally camp out in the metaverse maybe that is what we talk about metaverse stuff maybe that'll be the future where you have to camp out in the metaverse

this is what tomorrow's time we want the biggest best stuff like now we are introducing digital tents for all of our devoted guests waiting in the digital queue it'll be like the old days of like concert tickets where you'd have to camp out in front of tower records or something with enough digital tokens you can get digital s'mores right bring your own digital campfire gotta get enough slurp juices to earn that agile pass so that's the thing i know on the internet uh but i don't i consider myself reasonably tech savvy anytime i try to leave my computer running overnight to do an update or a file transfer i always fuck it up so i don't know how they expect normal people to keep connected to okay keep your browser open but also has to be connected you can't get disconnected but i guess

you can turn the screen brightness way down so you can if you're sleeping in the same room is this what is the company just trying to see what they can make their the hardcores do kind of is it just like a i mean is it is it sort of like a weird is it like a humiliation kind of situation like let's see what we can let's see how much of our guests time we can waste look they're doing it and they're doing that and they're doing that i think they're i think they're getting off on uh like dominating dominating yeah their audience's lives and making them do humiliating things all the time disney is our dom is what you're saying if you want to simplify it dom tomorrow i'm on to it i'm on to his scheme. They stopped using guest and just started calling us nasty pay pigs. You know?

You found your next bio. Financial domination. I am not a pay pig, sir. Are you a messy little pay pig? Are you a messy little pay pig? Little messy pay pig. Little messy wooden pay pig. Only for the Walt Disney Company.

There's also, we're saying all this there's like 20 empty ticket booths just right when you walk up to the esplanade at disneyland and like maybe one or two of them have people in them now what there are those ticket booths for years like there were ticket booths right next to la brea bakery no they're still there there's just closed so it just looks like shit i mean i'm i just went in the queue the queue took one minute there's still three passes available so i guess they definitely opened up more whatever the the chapek limit was that's probably been at least expanded okay so that's something, I guess you can, you can buy them online.

It didn't. So far from the orbit of when was the last year that things weren't like this? I feel it must've been when we started the show. Yeah. It's better been like this when we started the show, I wouldn't have wanted to start the show. I hate this place.

I'm never going again. That's the arc that's happened over this six years, whatever it is. It kind of had, like, I started to, I am going soon, by the way, but I, like, I'm not dying to get an annual pass at this, like, but Universal, I signed up for, I took a little break, but I got right back to it. Well, I'm in too. I'm back in here. We all got it now.

For the first time in years, we all have universal passes again yes we do yeah because they're what are they they're opening the place where you meet mario and it's open early and now and everybody's taking pictures and happy and power bands and one-ups that's their headlines are all those words disney is all like systems and calendars and queues and loading and waiting and patience yeah yes that's true uh we're all universal back in universal again and uh even like obviously like price universal is not as good as disneyland but uh much cheaper uh and for a lot more perks and i look i have free parking at universal yeah yes so that's nice yes yeah and it's not like a crazy upgrade to do it it's still not the top tier that get like the the mid-tier gets you free parking right the other thing they're

inadvertently doing by doing all these soft opening technical rehearsals for nintendo land when annual pass holder previews kick in you will be able to do most of the stuff in the land because people will have already seen it i'm sure the annual pass previews will be plenty busy don't get me wrong but it's like you're you're taking pieces off the board like you know there's gonna be people like oh yeah i went one day i saw it now i don't have to go back for a while they don't have to like just camp out in there for a long time yeah yeah yeah my family my family's planning on coming out like later in the year in the fall at some point and it's like oh good it'll probably be manageable and they'll be able to get into it you know and they don't

have to wake up at 7 a.m to reserve a pass to maybe get it no is there the 7 a.m thing too if you live in los angeles like you you're really rolling the dice because it's like if you get in the queue at 7 a.m and it's like okay you're going on at 8 15 like you have to floor it depending on where you live yeah you might not get there in time. And it takes forever from the parking garage. Is it a virtual queue for Mario Kart, though? Or am I wrong? I don't know the answer to that.

I think there's something like that for Mario Kart. Maybe I'm totally wrong. And credit where credit is due, the Universal Studios website does suck shit. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was so bad that they had to cancel the entire... Everybody got a mailer if you live around here there's a thing in the mail like okay so go to the website at this time we were mailed about this and then you go there and it had crashed long before the a lot of time had even started yeah no they're never gonna upgrade none of these companies apparently

will ever upgrade their theme park websites uh but then i the so week later it did go up and you guys seem to get in there easily and i was uh very uh out of it and busy that day so i really didn't understand i thought you already had annual passes and that's how you're able to do this and then like i texted mike the next day i was like what what do i do and he's like just buy buy an annual pass and you can schedule a preview and i did and uh there was only a few days left but it all worked and i got in now out of it and busy were you uh lost in a lollipop store or a chewable caramel store uh no it's funny that you say that because i right before i came here i did do a thing i i don't want to say i do it every week but every week cvs sends me four dollars

and if i don't have anything four dollar coupon like they send me every week for whatever reason i get a four dollar coupon in the mail no like an email oh and you add it in the app no and but it's anything goes basically it's just four dollars off your purchase is there a minimum purchase no really i mean i i i have not i think i spent under four dollars i don't know why i got this maybe because i have like pick up prescriptions there class action lawsuit or something you involved i don't think so but every thursday they say four dollar coupon and if i don't need anything at cvs that week and i'm going by one i usually just go in and buy four dollars worth of candy

is that what you were did that happen on the day where you just described being out of it and busy uh no that didn't happen okay okay can you send me that... But I did get a symphony bar. Whoa, symphony bar. Symphony bars are back. They're really pushing. Mr. Fancy over here. Extra large size. Little wooden symphony boy. Do you conduct with that thing?

Symphony boy. I don't know. I just remember that they had a pretty aggressive push in the early 90s. Can you send me the email where you get $4 off from CVS? Because I'm seeing you get $4 off your $20 purchase. I don't get that. I want to see what it looks like. I'll send it to you.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, find it right now and send it to me. You mean now? I do mean now. Mike means now. I mean now. He doesn't mean later. Yeah, we got to dissect this online

because I want to know how you're getting this. I have no idea. I want to buy a symphony bar for free. I want to get a comped symphony bar. A weekly comped symphony bar. Or is free i want to get a comp symphony bar a weekly comp symphony bar is it an accident you're like on some i don't what would it jason was the one billionth customer of cvs he's the he won the golden ticket on the golden ticket is four dollars a week he's a little charlie bucket boy. That is like $4 a week for... That's like...

They're giving you a couple hundred bucks a year. Yeah, wait a minute. Yeah, do you have to start reporting this on your taxes? Yeah, I don't know. This is like a job. You earn a salary from CBS without having to work there. Did you do some sort of testing for them? I don't know.

Oh, okay, this one's 20 20 it's to make up for they gave him the wrong prescription one time it caused him brain damage and they knew it that's why he's forgetting everything lately yeah but i think we might either are we on the reveal that you're not actually getting four dollars off and that you've been misreading the coupons i would just i wouldn't even tell you if i was just buying my regular candy a lot no i know but i'm saying you need this can i got stocking stuffer still no saying- I don't even need this candy. I got stocking stuffers still. No, I know you don't need the candy.

I'm just saying, is it possible you're misreading the coupon and you haven't been getting the discount and somehow you're paying? No, no, because they say, oh, you have $4. Now, there's a couple things happening here. There's Mike wanting to discredit Jason, but I think it's jealousy oriented. Yes, it is jealousy. Because there is a big deal happening. Right.

That is being pulled by somebody in this room. Yes. And you're baffled that you haven't achieved it yourself. That is absolutely. It's like 25% I'd love Jason to have misread it, and it's an accident, and he's been shoplifting for like years. I would love that. But mostly, I'm just like, I'm off for free dollars to CVS every week.

Jeez. You're playing the penny slots with all of your 300 emails a day about deals on toys you don't want. Oh, I'm pretty good with those, too. Yeah. So I'm fascinated by this. I'm surprised you didn't tell me this earlier while everyone goes through their emails we uh insanely late in the episode we should say one of the other big announcements oh yeah switch back to the universal side because they have

announced a las vegas experience that is the the opposite end of the spectrum of the family place in texas this is a year-round horror experience just north of the strip this is totally rad a completely new idea yes this is part of a 20 acre expansion of area 15 which already has like a lot of weird like immersive stuff and uh restaurants and the uh omega mart uh meow wolf's omega mart now here's where i need to say i've never heard of area 15 until this news broke were you guys familiar with it i didn't know 15 oh did you know area 15 i heard of omega mart but i didn't know about this greater district. Well, because for the last few years, I've been a little Vegas boy. Okay?

I've been a little gambling boy, too. So, it was a big deal in Area 15 because it's a massive development. It's really close to the Strip, but it is off Strip. Have you been? I have not been. No, it is. Not a big enough deal to go, but a big deal. No, I didn but a big deal well the last time we were there i it was jane's birthday and she's like i really i don't want to go see a themed experience i don't want i really don't want to do this what all right but the next

time we go we have said like that's the first thing we're gonna go see omega mart and it's been getting good reviews yeah omega mart sounds very cool and like something we should do. This, I didn't know any of this thing. This has been there since September 2020. And it's this really odd grab bag. Now here's, I'm curious. We now get back into indoor with all this. And I'm really curious how this thing is and how it will go forward and succeed

for a long time so it's there's there's this megamart thing this sort of like trippy immersive experience lost spirits distillery which we've heard was cool in la but it closed in la i believe um they had a fire i believe oh boy i don't know so they might still be an opera i don't know they did have a boat tour they did have a themed like yeah boat ride yes yeah um wish we could have done it we should have done it i think we were invited to it and then there was a fire jones got us tickets to it and we didn't do it that's what happened we had doug if you're listening apologies for we didn't jump on it right Right, right, right. We thought we had time. But yeah, then there's all these VR rides, and there's something called Birdly, where you lie on your chest, and there's big bird wings under your arms that flap, so you get,

so with VR goggles, it's like you're flying like a bird. And then there's also a zipline thing, where you hold on to it onto handlebars so it's sort of like hang gliding but that moves through the middle of this campus it's all of these odd you could buy packages seemingly to do a bunch of them right but also you could just piecemeal these these experiences um there's something called wink world wink world wink world is of course a psychedelic art house created by chris wink i needn't tell you that chris wink from wink world is one of the original blue men one of the first men and uh he is now the chief creative officer of blue man group

and he has spun off the very strong wink brand into wink world so we got to check out wink world you have to i mean this 2023 they're saying is the year of the wink uh so we're definitely gonna cover it more on the show this year a lot we promise more wink i also knew i mean i was i had read about area 15 uh for the omega mart installation but i also was delighted to learn they have a location of emac and bolio's the boston-based ice cream establishment that uh is but kind of was more fun in the hard rock hotel at universal orlando um and i think the thing is uh a lot of musicians would stop in the one in boston i think it was open late so after shows they, they're like, what's open?

And this is, it kind of has like a Ben and Jerry's sort of vibe, but it's good ice cream. So that will be my second stop after Omega Mart. You're not going to Wink World first? I mean, I'll check out Wink World. I saw the Blue Man Group in Manhattan like 20 years ago or something in their like 20 years ago. I saw them in their Astor Place Theater.

Well, a lot's changed. Yeah, what have you done for Wink lately? Wink wasn't the chief creative officer of Blue Man Group back then. Well, I've got to look into the Wink. I will look into the Wink brand. It's really, doesn't it? Because it's the format of Disneyland. Disneyland opens and Walt Disney is one of the primary celebrities on Earth. now we have wink world and it's the same deal it's chris wink we all know chris wink yeah

same deal um and also now here's let's get really topical with okay this episode comes out on january uh wait a minute no it's out on the 20th oh wait a minute this is I think maybe the night that you're hearing this if okay if the episode comes out January 20th then tonight if you're in the

Vegas area you can go to this area 15 and you can experience something called Shrek rave Shrek themed rave happening

oh I've heard about these you've heard about the Shrek raves yeah I think this is a thing that's happening throughout the country yeah this is a trend that's sweeping that's right yeah it's is there a company that's doing it or uh i don't know that this might be an independent shrek i don't know if there's a uh one conglomerate behind the shrek raves the poster says it's dumb just come have fun and cool cool is dead. Who cares?

I mean, I can't argue with either of those statements. Oh, there's a Shrek rave? Yeah. Wait, this one's in Riverside? There's a Riverside on the 27th Shrek rave. Could this be the same Shrek rave, or is it a different one? Is this an organic movement across the country? That's a good question.

Well, do we have to go to a Shrek rave? i think maybe a shrek rave wow this is good um there's a couple different there was a thing and i can't think of the name of it now but there were like these traveling raves that i think i would mention when eva was here last and one of them seemed to be like i'm trying to think maybe that was more of an avatar like a generic avatar rave but it wasn't for the vibe but it wasn't affiliated with the right but i can't remember if they had like a specific shrek rave i don't think they did but it looks like shrek rave is a common thing right now wow all right well here we got to i'm i'm myself i'm nervous about this not really caring for Shrek or Raves. Mike, on the other hand, I don't know your feelings about Shrek, but I know your feelings about douchey Vegas pool parties.

That's correct. So you'll be in hog heaven. Shrek heaven. A little hog heaven. Donkey heaven. Yeah. Yeah, no, I love that. Is this going to be like I'm a Believer remix and All-Star remix?

It better only be those Rufus Wainwright Hallelujah remixes. It better be only the old song, whatever that was. Right. Shrek Rave, you buy tickets on Ticketmaster. Wow. Wow. $22 for GA standing at the Riverside Shrek Rave. So I can go to a Shrek-themed rave and give my money to Ticketmaster at the same time?

Wow, so the ticket costs as much as the fees? Nice, nice, nice. I'm going to the next stage to see how much the fees are for the Shrek rave. Oh, the app is redirecting me to the website, as all good apps do. Yep, as our beloved theme park apps do. And I'm going to see. Yeah. Well, because $22 is relatively cheap for a ticket.

They're trying to give us. Oh, do you want to buy Fastlane access to the Shrek rave or VIP club access to the Shrek rave for $25? This is the Disney people would be salivating. These are the kind of upshar. Why can't Disneyland think like the Shrek raves? God damn it. They've got Shrek raves god damn it they've got shrek and first go texas and they got shrek traveling the country what the fuck has mickey done lately what has he done for me lately there are real pandemic and shrek shrek is popping up everywhere everyone's getting infected each ticket is a nine dollar fee it's 22 and then nine dollar

service fee could be worse could be worse well and the fact that you're making progress with this this is but you know it's not it's not the taylor situation i guess shrek raves aren't as popular as taylor swift not yet yeah on the way though anyway what's universal doing over here they are doing uh unique immersive fantastic horror centric experiences along with daytime food and beverage spaces that will turn into haunting bars and eateries by night. So, I don't know. It seems like they don't know.

So, it's just a restaurant during the day, and then they put up some cobwebs? Yeah, I guess that's what it is. On this blog, Vital Vegas, that I was reading, I've read Vegas stuff on, they point out that, like, you know, look, Vegas is a lot of people in town, a lot of people spending money.

So it kind of makes sense. On the other hand, the Fear the Walking Dead attraction at the Fremont Street Experience and Eli Roth's Goratorium on the Strip did not really last very long. No, Eli Roth's Goratorium? How were the reviews of the Coratorium?

Do we know? I don't know. We'll have to go back. It's like 10 years ago. Right. That opened and closed. It's interesting. Because like it sounds,

I bet that the escape rooms that they've been doing at CityWalk Orlando, that's sort of maybe a soft test for. A lot of the commenters on this blog have been like, they just opened escape rooms. And I have to think that's easy to clone. I've heard good reviews of the commenters on this blog have been like they just opened escaped rooms and i have to think that's easy to clone i've heard good reviews of the back to the future one um and then there are like bar areas themed bar areas that are part of this as well the orlando escape room club is by that like this thing at city walk that it's a bar but they keep

changing it for every season it was like halloween then it was christmas so i wonder yeah if it's going to be like a highly themed restaurant bar and then they can like shuffle in and out like mazes and stuff sure they got a tooth yeah i mean they could build a tooth so they certainly could build a tooth so they have 110 000 square feet they're working that is a lot of space i was gonna say though twosome i probably doesn't fit the horror toothsome i think they might want to keep like wholesome sure you know you don't want to you don't want to drag the mythology of dr twosome and jock and uh the dog you don't want characters we love yeah so you don't want them to be like dismembered we don't want that you couldn't make them go through the the motions and the plot of freaky because they would just continue to be delightful if they swapped bodies it would be yeah no wait what is freaky freaky that's the uh

horror freaky friday with vince vaughn and a teenage girl vince vaughn is a serial killer and he swaps oh that's a couple years ago already i that pretty recent yeah i think it was at one of the heart nights there was a maze there i think it's a blumhouse movie i think it was in in one of the blumhouse houses oh it was like represented in represent okay huh we've slept on freaky. We've slept on Freaky. We've slept on Goratorium, which was, this was open in 2013. Filed for Chapter 11 after facing, it was open for a year, faced complaints of high prices and poor customer service. And it was sued by a design firm who alleged they had not been paid for work done on Goratorium's

branding and website. It seemed like there might have been other problems with the Goratorium other than just interest was low. I guess Vegas doesn't like themed experiences. Goratorium proves it once and for all. The coverage of a lot of new development in Vegas, new entertainment stuff, is like they're slapping immersive on anything. Yeah, it's a trendy thing. But I feel like the same thing will have like if this is done well because i because the the horror knights mazes are often done very well

but they're temporary so if you could put up even more like highly themed version of these that's a little more permanent because they don't have to like pull it down to reassemble a new thing i mean i people love this shit and i've been saying for a long time i'm not sure why they don't they had that walking dead maze but before that was it was house of horrors i'm not sure why they don't have like some more like permanent horror nights things but i guess this makes sense to do it in vegas this is i think it's a strong idea the concept art that they released i mean there's like you know actually there's like the concept art that they released, I mean, there's like, you know, actually there's like the concept art with shadowy monsters emerging from the smoky depths. But then there's the physical plant concept art.

And seeing a huge building that says Universal on the side right off the main freeway. That's cool. Oh, man. That sounds cool. That'll be eye-catching i also think these regional experiences maybe get people excited about the universal brand who were not before and maybe makes them want to try going to hollywood or orlando yeah i mean if they could do something that's even a little longer too because those mazes at horror nights you know they're they're not super short but they're just you're

just rolling like you're walking so fast through those things because they're trying to just get people in and out if you could like slow it down even a little bit and you could appreciate it more like um like uh like a delusion like a delusion or something yeah like in between the regular maze and like a delusion which is more of a narrative like you could do some pretty cool stuff and and again i think it all comes down to just like is it good yeah yeah just do they pull these off do they spend the money do they they commit yeah but it seems like the company that's doing that right now yeah so that yeah that is cool does this uh did it say when that opens potentially i don't think so and

we got that's in the way i think farish future i think they're both a little far out yeah yeah but that one seem seemingly would be easier to construct i would think but who knows yeah um meanwhile epcot has opened figments inspiration station a place to stand in a line to get popcorn buckets there are chunks of the original Journey into Imagination, like little stuff on display there, as if it were a museum, as if it were a pilfered civilization. Oh, and then there's a light show with the Spaceship Earth ball, and sometimes it flashes figments colors.

Wow. So that's much better than fixing what has been uh one of the bottom five rides maybe on earth for the last 20 years yeah uh so there's that um i haven't thought unless you guys have any more to say i uh going back to the texas universal park i think you know it's potentially very promising. It seems like it could be very fun. But let me pose this question as a thought exercise. Yeah.

And I'm sure we agree this would be better. But what would... Here, let me just present it. If they did this 25 years ago, we wouldn't be getting DreamWorks, Shrek stuff. We would be getting more of the classic Universal, but kid rides. Uh-huh, uh-huh. So I pose the question, what little kid versions of classic Universal rides would we want in this park? Little backdraft.

Little backdraft. You get to put on little fire helmets and blast with a hood like the thing that you liked where you save santa's house right from a fire at santa's village right little backdraft and you may but i think you keep it all the same too where you there's also an intro from little ron howard okay great they get a little red-haired kid turn around in a little director's hat that's good talk about how little movies are made right all right well you know cinderella man i get ready to meet cinderella kid was cinderella man in the parks cinderella man is not in the parks but it is a notable poster

on the studio tour that always stuck out to me because i was like did cinderella man make a big impression and did it make money like i so you're saying this poster will be in this hypothetical 25 years ago right it's a roller coaster it's a child boxing experience all right it's a it's it it's a ride it's a coaster with so many inversions that it makes you delirious like you're a boxer who just got hit in the head a bunch okay yeah and it's for it's for children yeah uh it uh you know it's sort of like uh you know the jedi training academy at the disney parks but it teaches you how to uh do a cigarette punch which is where uh if you're a guy seems like he wants to fight you you try to make peace and you

offer him a cigarette. Uh-huh. Because when people put a cigarette in the mouth, they inevitably open their mouth. So as he's doing that, you uppercut him under the jaw and he breaks a bunch of teeth. Is this something you learn in the movie Cinderella Man? No, I learned this in a Jack Reacher book. Too violent for the movies?

Maybe the Amazon show might have it is this something that was named by jack reacher author or is this something child by lee child yes i don't really child create this phrase i feel like this is like a street fighting like this is like a i'm sure it's a move i'm sure tough guys have been doing this move i just wonder if the cigarette punch has sort of been branded before that. I don't know. I don't know. Okay.

So we have little backdraft, little Cinderella man. That's a great start. Little Cinderella punches. Little cigarette punches. Well, Woody, 20 years ago, they were still pushing for Woody Woodpecker. Oh, yeah. There would be a giant Nuth house coaster if this was 25 years ago for sure yeah all that stuff um there would definitely be little i love lucy babies there

would be they would be like muppet babies but the i love lucy and there would be like lucy attribute but they'd all be babies uh it would all be baby versions and We've made a decision here, which is that unilaterally, it is baby versions of properties. Yeah, we all decided on that. Which is, I don't think what they're going to do in Frisco, however, that maybe they should. Well, it makes sense. These are adult.

I Love Lucy is an adult property, so it would have to be kiddified. And what better way to do it by just adding babies to it? So, I Love Lucy babies, little backdraft. Well, I like the idea that the I Love Lucy gang all met when they were little, like that Flintstones cartoon implied. Oh, I like that cartoon. I remember that cartoon. You liked the Flintstones babies cartoon? Yeah, Flintstones kids.

I liked it, okay. I got to see my favorite characters as kids was there a scooby-doo one yeah there was i forget the name of it a pup named yes there it is oh yeah a pup named so yeah i love those who would have been perfect with this um so yeah i mean there would have to be back to the future little vertigo lil vertigo some of the Hitchcock ones yeah a child obsessed with what would he be he wouldn't be obsessed

with like making a woman look like his dead wife or girlfriend he would be obsessed with something like

making making a teddy bear look like eight different teddy berries yes okay so lil vertigo is a little boy loses his teddy bear and then he gets a new teddy bear but he's obsessed with the old teddy bear so he keeps taking the teddy bear

to like build a bear and he's like making demands it's like no the fur isn't right the fur isn't right part the fur here Dye the fur a darker brown It's not right Now wear this dress bear This is a stunningly accurate baby voice Yeah That's what a baby sounds like That's exactly what your baby sounds like

Yeah she's talking already Five months She sounds like Mr. Bill. So what's crazy about that? Beloved SNL character. Oh, yeah. A brief run on Nick at Night 2. Totally perplexing watching the Mr. Bill show.

Mr. Bill was on Nick at Night? Yeah. I don't remember that. Scott, do you remember that? No. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. You're a huge Mr. Bill fan.

It's weird. Yeah, I remember the pizza hut character that was ripped off from mr bill i remember that sure um so well yeah that's okay little vertigo that closes it out i guess as far as ideas i mean yeah they were pushing apollo 13 big time i you know you don't even have to like baby if i it could just be like well what you know it's the what would have been the title is apollo 13 and a half that's good like yeah yeah yeah what about this is made for that straight to video they should they could do that today the monsters division does oh yeah and a half well this is what i want i want somebody to send

me a list of what they got and just add a half to some of these titles. There was also a horror movie, Bring It On. Was there? Yeah, that was on SyFy Channel. Do you know what it was called? I can look it up. Okay. Bring It On, horror movie.

So this is a thing that's happening? Is horrorizing of more benign properties of 2000s era bring it on colon cheer or die really okay i don't know if it's in canon okay we're getting very fractional with our reboots yeah really um so apollo 13 and a half um missy pile plays the principal okay that's fun are we still recording i think we've died what was this pile plays the principal that's but yes yes very good sweet jason now enter eternal bliss uh tron light cycle run officially opening april 4th Yes, very good, sweet Jason. Now enter Eternal Blizz.

Tron Light Cycle Run officially opening April 4th at Disney World. We're still doing New Year's Blizz. That actually is happening. Tiana's Place replacing the French Market, which has seemed like an out-of-date cafeteria for a long time, although the food's been fairly solid. It's okay, yeah. Food's okay there.

Is that the list? You got anything else oh happily ever after is coming back uh harmonious ends april 2nd and epcot forever is back on april 3rd so a lot of what disney's rolling out is this thing's back we did not come up with a suitable replacement so this thing's back okay but my question really where's the coupon oh wait the coupon hasn't been produced in all this time well look he had a list to go through oh yeah that's true i have uh lost my email i guess i wrap it up oh it's because i've lost i happen to have lost my email one if you get one coupon a week this should be the easiest search in the

world they usually come on well no because i delete i've been trying to like get space back on gmail fascinating deleting the paper trail is it in the trash reminds me of how our government officials just keep finding documents so where do these documents show up in uh in in my home biden was holding a bunch of four dollar coupons to CVS in his home. That's what they found. We're on to him and we're on to you. Wait, you don't have the most recent? Well, it's not Thursday yet.

Wait a minute. The date is very convenient too. It's Wednesday. So you should have tomorrow's coupon. Huh? You should have tomorrow. No, they come in on Thursday. What time?

And a follow-up question. Can Mike be in your house when it shows up? Between midnight and 6 a.m. I get the email, then I have to activate it. Okay. And then it goes to my thing. By the time this episode comes out, we will be able to, on our Twitter,

post a photo of your $4 CVS coupon. And I think he has to produce that and the purchase whatever the purchase was we need to know what you got with the four dollars here is an older one okay okay yeah yeah the four no this is a receipt you can see the four dollar off in this receipt that's close but not quite what i'm looking for you get emails with your receipts well yeah because you can select it you can't select you don't get those crazy long receipts anymore you can just get your receipts but the crazy long receipts are so much fun i mean print them out and then you got a fun paper scarf to wear all right i'm gonna walk over and look at this look at this receipt to just see what it

even says see if i can discern oh i just forwarded it to you okay thank you i was moving but okay you guys sort out the physical uh you can see there's a $4 receipt. There's a $1 off a Hallmark card. I was buying Christmas cards. Okay, yeah, Scott, you can wrap it up. Okay, okay. Everyone get everything into position that you need to. But for now, you survived Podcast The Ride.

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Well it does say I'm looking at his receipt now He bought a shoebox Birthday card Oh birthday card Because he also had A dollar off Hallmark coupon

And then he bought A Hershey Kit Kat Crisp wafer Dark chocolate And it does say on the discount there's four discounts applied so he stacked discounts which i love to see two percent back in extra bucks two percent back in extra bucks four dollars off your purchase and then a dollar off hallmark coupon so it does say four dollars off your purchase it's just i'm how i don't understand how you would get such a good deal with no strings

attached i don't either wow and how long have you been getting this i would say at least six months not a year okay well this is this is opening up jason to such scrutiny people are going to start like uh showing up like trying to find you to bother you thinking you're a philanthropist like mr moneybags here saving four dollars a week then surely you can finance my short film or help my relative who's sick i'm worried that we're making this public that's a good point the best deal and they've already changed it but for a while i was going and buying two boxes of movie theater candy because those were two for four dollars or two three dollars so you know get some snow caps get some sour patch kids okay hold on i have okay here we go i have the offers that

i didn't see before two dollars off your purchase but not four you're not a cvs vip why why not i don't because uh maybe i don't know maybe you could go in there and you could smile more you could have a chipper attitude like jason has i think a cashier saw jason with a pep in his step buying a bunch of boxes of movie candy at once and thought i'm gonna do a kindness for this young man who brightened my day with his smile jason was like whistling candy man from willie wonka they're like look at this nice young man he like clicked his heels together when he came into cvs they're like you know what let's give him free candy every week sir, have the golden ticket. Wow.

This is crazy. I got to figure this out. I got to figure this out, too. We'll see if one comes tomorrow. I've been waiting for it to cut off. Wow. Hold on. Hold on.

No, no. I have $4 off your $20 purchase. I do not have the $4. Just a $4 with no strings attached. Yeah, I do not have no strings. I'm going to be combing through this all night but wow okay uh say partner who listens to podcast the ride and i don't how was their newest episode oh it's good they talked at one point about how disney's shifting their park hopping time from 1 p.m to 11 a.m and then towards the end they went through jason's cbs receipts uh as if they were doing his taxes this is why i

didn't bring this up sooner because i'm like well there's gonna be like a third of an episode if i talk about my free candy trips little and little did you know that your bio would come into question for for so long right uh there's been a lot to come over someone to mention that but i don't know i forget it's been messy boy for a long time and wooden got at it during the pinocchio craze i still gotta watch the del toro one that one looks good yeah that's what's the biggest deterrent of getting us to watch something is it being good that puts it at the back of our queue um all right well i think you've been audited sufficiently and unless mike has more mike you've

said hold on and then said more numbers several times now do you need to do that again i have a coupon for three dollars off listerine mouthwash this isn't about you this is about jason's coupons you're right let jason's coupon shine you're gonna get a better deal at target or walmart on that i'm listerine? Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Bye. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan,

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