Podcast: The Ride - Pixar Pier

Episode Date: July 13, 2018

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Warning, the following podcast may contain costumed characters with plastic heads in human hands, a scathing review of an ice cream cone, pal-a-rounds, and a curious look at the Disneyland Resort's newest offering, Pixar Pier. Spoiler alert, it's fine! This is Podcast The Ride, the only theme park podcast where you'll hear a heartfelt apology directed to robot birds which i'll do in one second once i get to my co-host jason sheridan oh i'm glad you're doing that yeah i have that written down yeah i was telling scott this happened a lot there were a lot of comments this week from last week's episode very polite i was trying to figure out what a lot meant because my guess was two when you asserted five five to six or seven across the social media you said five you just upped it to six or seven now i'm exaggerating for the air i think the truth is in between as it often

is i think it was three to four across a couple social media well i'm not going to take any more time other than saying my full name scott gerdner and then ceding the floor to mike carlson for his apology okay so here's the thing i would like to heartfeltly apologize to the group of white cockatoos who appear in Walt Disney's Enchanted Tiki Room. I incorrectly stated on last week's episode that they did not have names and only the four hosts said names. That is incorrect. They absolutely have names.

There are six ladybirds who have names, and I would like to apologize to each of them right now i'm sorry to colette suzette mimi gg fifi and josephine i very much apologize you guys have fun names you pass the hell and test as far as i'm concerned certainly do they don't like have any lines really in the show they just sing a. And also, apology in absentia to Rosita. No one knows what happened to Rosita. Yes. And I also would like to take the blame for this myself,

but I'd also like to call out my two co-hosts for not correcting me. Okay? So where were you guys? We're all experts here I think I was probably asleep Every time I visited the Enchanted Tiki Room And thus did not pick up any names Jason, where were you? Come on, man

I was so charmed and enthralled By the actual entertainment I occasionally just black out certain elements of it well to invest it in the the story as i said we got 13 to 20 comments about this 24 and uh i'm very look i did feel a bit of shame like people would tweet and i did feel like well we're supposed to be guys that know we're talking about you didn't know what we're talking about. You didn't know what you were talking about. How could you let a mistake like this happen? You know, we were kind of in universal mindset, and we were also blue-skying the Helen test. You know, I feel like we just got probably caught up in the heat of podcasting.

This is like Steve Rannazzisi, 9-11, not quite on that level, but his comedian who claimed he was in 9-11. This is a big embarrassment is what I'm saying. It's not a one-to-one. There is some conspiracy theories that Rosita was actually, you know, in the towers, but got out ahead of time. Easier for a bird to do so than a person. Very easy. Wait, okay.

Let me clarify a couple things. We're talking about last week when we came up with a new theory, the Helen test, which relates to characters being named uninteresting names like Helen, specifically in theme park rides or robot shows, because this came from Helen in Waterworld and Helen in the Chuck E. Cheese band. By the way, does the Helen test apply to non-theme park entertainment as well do we think helen is just a bad name a boring name well it all means it's all

compare comparatively like if if the movie has a series of male characters and like one is named like the flashlights and one is named sun man and then it's like linda is the female character yeah yeah like if they have fun names or silly names and then the female character is boring so i think so i think so that's a good way to frame the rule i uh i'm not sure if uh my wife pointed out a new one to me uh daria daria's mom is helen um now i don't know if all of the characters have interesting names on daria i don't remember everybody else of the characters have interesting names on Daria. I don't remember everybody else's name, but Helen's not as interesting of a name as Daria. But maybe that's important for the story that she was raised by this kind of waspy or yuppie mother.

And then Daria is an oddball who doesn't fit in with the family. So maybe if it's narratively important that that can override the helen test yeah i think that's right and i also the thing the maybe the flaw in the helen test is there could be a movie where like all the characters are named jim michael helen and some linda let's say i think that's okay and that's fine but the problem is now people will misinterpret that just helen's a bad name and that's not what we're fine But the problem is now People will misinterpret That just Helen's a bad name And that's not what we're saying Oh yeah

That's a good point Because we mentioned Helen Parr Elastigirl In The Incredibles And Scott and I Have seen Incredibles 2 And

Since recording it Yes Since recording A terrific movie She gets a great arc Like it's mostly Her movie I would say

Like But that's not what this is about it's just about her name not yeah we don't get we don't care if the female has a good arc or a satisfying thing we just care that the name is interesting but what's mr what's mr incredible's non-incredible mr incredible name bob bob well so does that no it's fine that i think the incredible pass is for sure then the kids are named dashiell and violet which are interesting names but that's a generational thing that well that's true and helen are of a certain generation and that makes sense and they have code names that are very fun similar to helen and daria yes it makes sense that a younger

generation so if the interesting name issue is due to generational difference, we'll allow it. But if it's characters who are all roughly of the same age, like Pasquale, Munch, and Jasper, and then one of their ranks is named Helen, that's boring. That's boring. Birdie in McDonald's gang is fine. Birdie is interesting.

Yes. As much as Hamburglar or Grimace, maybe not quite, but it's more specific than Helen. If her name was just Jill. Yeah, it's as good as Mayor Big Mac or Officer Big Mac. Officer Big Mac and Mayor McCheese. Mayor McCheese. God damn it.

Sorry, I'm screwing up a lot these last few weeks. Would Helen the Bird pass the test if her middle name was Entertainment, like Chuck Entertainment Cheese? So it would be Helen E. Henny? Is it Henny? Is it Henny? Henny gets closer, I guess, to being fun. I guess it couldn't also be entertainment it would be like helen musicality uh henny or helen uh excellent service another aspect of the chucky cheese famously their service is perfect ski ball hen uh uh yeah she would be yeah if birdie was in it would it would be cool because birdie's a fun

name i'd be curious to think about i think this is important a distinction to make that helen it's not about the name helen it's about yes uh female character names not keeping up with the dynamic nature of them so there's probably other examples of this and go ahead and tweet them at us if you if you think you have And if you understand what we're talking about, if you understand the concept, because it's a bit confusing. It is a little bit, but interesting that there's a couple of dully named Helens throughout theme park lore. Yeah.

And we're going to try to put a stop to that going forward. Well, I mean, Helen is, I mean, this leads us into the primary topic today. This came up entirely because Helen. Because of the Incredibles, yes. Helen, aka Elastigirl, factors into Disney's newest, quote unquote, attraction. Yes. The Incredicoaster. And its newest land.ar pier the helen of california adventure well yeah are we showing our cards of our opinion of this i think it does seem

like we're maybe following the it seemed from my sense theme park media youtube channels twitterers wherever else these people can live are not super psyched about pixar pier well it depends i think the people that uh got a free ride to disney and got to experience it early they found a lot to like for some reason so oh does this happen often i yes it depends i think i think it depends because i saw certain places and i don't want to call out uh podcasts or websites but i saw on you know a certain website versus a certain website's podcast a discrepancy the podcast was much more glowing about it and then if you actually read the website buried down in a few paragraphs, there was actually some criticism.

So I'm saying forward facing clickbait title is pro. I'll call them out. Ferriswheellovers.net. I'm tired of you guys being bought. Y'all are bullshit artists. Yeah, that's it it That's the one We all know I don't mind making an enemy here today

I didn't want to but I guess Go to everyone Go to that That dot net Go to their site And yell at them Give them a piece of your mind And yeah

And rate and review Ferris Pod At Apple Podcasts And tell them that Look you need to be consistent here and you need to be objective theme park journalists like we are yeah send them to the one star basement you are disgracing mr ferris's legacy how dare you use his name um well so you guys have been to pixar pier been to pixar because i'm i'm off my pass for a little while i'll take a couple months off i'm certainly taking the summer off because we there was there was a tweet going

around about how uh the other day friday as we record this i'm not sure the exact date but recently uh disneyland had the most the hottest day on record of any Disney theme park ever. Any Disney theme park. How can that be right? 113 degrees in Anaheim on July 6th. Something would have hit that before. Because 113 isn't the hottest temperature of all time. No. Maybe it is, though.

I feel like that is the hottest single. That's the hottest temperature I can remember since I moved to Southern California. Yeah. But I'm surprised it has not gotten hotter in Orlando. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. But maybe, I don't know.

I guess the rain cools it down. Like the humidity keeps it a little cooler. I'd be curious the height in general. I feel like humidity is more the what's oppressive there than the the the dry california on top of that too the hottest day uh disney was having tech problems and the apps went out so like fast pass and like food like what a disaster on a day when like uh uh the heat is already pushing everyone to their limit just like the worst like i'm sure they were just dads like just losing their minds like if people

maybe if if it was a trip that's been in the works for months or years and you get there and that's how it plays out i don't horror show i feel like at that temperature the smallest like a cashier going oh excuse me sir i have to go get a roll of quarters i'm out of quarters can make someone go like what else is gonna go around today it'll plant the seed that when they get back to their hometown they will leave their family or maybe they don't go back to their hometown they will leave their family or maybe they don't go back to their hometown i was gonna say it just happens there and he just walks into downtown disney and he never seen again he's never seen again gets on a bus to garden grove and i'm starting over y'all are on your own uh temperature does crazy things to people. Yeah. I also saw that the Cars Land, all the Cars Land rides were down at one point in time.

Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, my God. Just a Disneyland meltdown. But I'm wrong for not wanting to go to the park, get a glass of wine, go on one ride, and then leave. Well, in that heat, of course, no one would blame you. But we're saying when it's temperate day, two rides at least. been a hot two ride if i'm feeling patient you're you're on your past

break and you're thinking how long has the break now been from disney this is one of the longest stretches i've made it i think i'm i think i'm almost at five months my god yeah i've had others where i i said i was going to take the year off and then i broke it four months but i'm up to five um this is odd i guess it's odd to be saying on it i'm i'm treating this like it's sobriety but i'm talking about taking time off from disneyland on my disneyland oriented podcast yeah well in all fairness you are the only uh one currently with a universal pass though hey yeah so i'm representing in another area and that's uh come in handy during our many many city walk trips that well that's where we're going out of order in the timeline but uh

when was jason when was the last time you didn't have a disneyland pass 2010 you've renewed consistently the whole time or 2011 yeah so you've had a one continuous for seven years yes pretty much and at a certain point it just became like well they got rid of my tear so i have to keep renewing like this year i was hemming and hawing and then uh uh i i feel like i i was just like i may as well do it still still that's true you were you were threatening you were threatening me you were saying you i'm you're not gonna you might not get a pass but then you did it anyway you must have been terrified for that yeah i was horrified because yeah i honestly i think i the only i've had one continuously except for like a month in 2014 wow or a couple months maybe like two months in 2014 wow so you know i think i actually did all of i think i took all of 2016 off and 2016

was you know everybody was having those hell years and I was doing it to save money and which made sense on paper. But I started to realize I'd be much happier during this awful political and celebrity death laden hellscape that was 2016. I think Disneyland would have tempered the whole thing so i was wrong in 2016 i shouldn't put these boundaries on myself but you hear about this

these temperatures and it's like yeah i'm i don't think i'm i'm gonna try to make it to september october okay because because there's gonna be a hike that's what the rumors are i want to tell everybody out there if you don't have a pass you're thinking about getting a pass but ahead of star wars land the rumor is and it's not coming from ferris wheel dot net it's coming from a different website a different podcaster the bumper car boys the bumper car boys have jason i'm fine thank you for saying it we love their podcast remember it's a dash between bumper and car but not boys they made it as confusing of a URL as possible. No, bumper car boys, one word, is like a weird proud boys.

Oh, yeah. So you got to make sure to distinguish between them. Somehow they're legally both allowed to exist. It's weird. It's weird, yeah. Those are people who hit their enemies with automobiles. Oh, yeah. They're the people trying to pass the protesters.

They mow over antifas. They're trying to be hit by their cars if you are crossing in front of an on-ramp or something. They're awful. But bumper dash car boys, no dash. Yeah, they're great. And their rumor is, of course, that soon there's going to be a substantial price hike

in annual passes. I had to start to try to root even more people out before Star Wars Land comes, which is probably going to soft open before May because they have to test stuff out but even when star wars land opens we're not sure about which passes will be able to get sure they could block all of them out i mean they're talking about they've already announced haven't they like one park blackouts where it's like oh you can't come to disneyland you can go to california adventure i do think though depending on when you like like right now whatever it says on the maps

you you're getting that i don't think they can like block out like new new dates like they've already sort of they can they have to me well i know they can restrict stuff but you're saying they can i when i had family come out to visit in 2015 we're like let's uh uh we'll plan to go to the park these days because i was looking at my blackout calendar and that was like five months out and then the week before they came i went oh i'm apparently blacked out on sunday the first day you just didn't make a mistake uh no i didn't because what happened was hyperspace mountain opened all that star wars crap all that uh they would do it for that they blacked out that that was like the soft opening we gotta

look at this so i bought like a one day i know they can restrict it if all of a sudden the like the park is too crowded like like if it gets capacity the fire marshal will literally say no more yeah you can't come in yeah if you follow them on twitter you can see when the parking garage is i'm just saying sir i think in general whatever the schedule is now the day you buy your pass that is that should be okay they're not going to change legally binding the fine print says we can you know change these conditions at any time it's not like yes that's true i mean if it's truly insane i'm just saying that i think you'll probably get an approximation of whatever it is the day you buy it and they can change it going forward and make alterations to like even the same level of pass like if you buy it two weeks from now it'll be way more money and there could be a different set of things attached to it because

like they will grandfather certain things in like yeah certain things like photo pass and stuff if you had it before on your tier but then they get rid of it you still get grandfathered in so that's what i'm saying the nature of this draconian rule set this is all this i'm gonna continue what might be my maybe i'm the villain of the podcast or something for even presenting controversial ideas like this go ahead there's a part of me that wants to not go to star wars land what for a while huh doesn't it seem like it's gonna be hellish it does i yeah it seems like society the rules of polite society may break down it seems like it would be as lawless as

the actual outer rims are in the star wars universe you were talking about the outer rims of the planet batu yeah okay of course i was talking about batu okay i just wanted to make sure we were talking about batu i feel like i think this isn't the first time we've had this exact exchange where you say batu and i go of course i'm talking about batu that might have been in our real life but i don't think it's been on the air maybe that's what it is. I think that the thing with Star Wars Land is they're going to, the hellish part of it would be waiting to get in. Because I don't think they're going to let everyone into the land. So I think that the hellish thing is going to be standing outside in Frontierland or

over in Critter Country waiting to get in, in the heat with a bunch of cranky people. Because there's going to have to be lines. There were lines when Harry Potter opened, there would be our way just to step foot in the heat with a bunch of cranky people because there's gonna have to be lines there were like lines when harry potter opened there would be our way just to step foot in the land i don't think they're gonna let it be the case where you're just like shoulder to shoulder in the land and it's a nightmare i think they're only gonna let an amount of people that's at least somewhat manageable in there but what if there was a place you could wait with all your friends from the pixar universe sure you mean very good very strategically opened a year before to try to be like well you know star wars land isn't open but we have a new area open last year an entirely new yes that is uh it is not a thin soup of a

of a theme park land it is hearty robust uh minestrone there's so much in here a lot of nutrients there's a lot and it all opened on time it all opened oh wait no uh wait three things are not open yet and then there's a whole but oh god they're calling it something okay that makes sense their entire rides they haven't started to build yet uh yeah well at any hopefully in a year it'll be all open uh when they're telling this potential star wars land person so in case people i mean i think people listening might not know this full set of theories and i think that's absolutely right i think this if you've been wondering what is up with this pixar pier thing because i feel like i've talked to some slightly invested theme

perk fans uh um who are who don't under who are are confused about so there's a new incredibles coaster well no it's a re-theme so there's a new pixar land no it's kind of a re-themed it's what was there already uh and if you've been wondering what's the deal with this that's certainly the working theory that they are trying to throw whatever they can to attract people over to california adventure to ease the what will be a hellish burden yes on uh in the star wars area at disneyland uh so real quick as you're saying this i had the realization because i have a park map in front of me uh from the opening weekend of pixar pier and usually i don't have a park map in front of me from the opening weekend of Pixar Pier. And usually I don't have an actual map in front of me.

And one of the things I was wondering about, because how to say this. So Pixar Pier did not just replace Paradise Pier entirely. It replaced Paradise Pier up to like the silly symphony swings. And unless I'm wrong, which I could very well be the, the rest of that area with like the Zephyr and the corn dog castle and even up to little murder. Yeah.

Goofy sky school and little mermaid is now called Paradise Gardens Park. Did you guys know that? Not until this morning. I saw it in an la times article and would have missed it otherwise and you didn't know till you you were there and you didn't know till you literally looked at a map yeah famous area paradise gardens park of the california adventure it's presented on the same level as cars land yeah these are equal lands cars land paradise garden park but i i just assumed it was going

to be like this is pixar pier and this other stuff is here but we're not going to talk about this whole thing is so strange and sloppy what did they really do the incredicoaster is now they took something that was not pixar themed and now it is but then the the mickey the wheel the ferris wheel mickey's fun formerly mickey's fun wheel mickey's fun it still has mickey on it yeah but now it's called uh what the pixar pal around got it one of the worst names one of the worst names i've ever heard pixar pal around is a ride where lots of you sit in a car themed after one of your favorite pixar pals and all the pixar pals rotate around the the center of the pixar universe mickey what's going on what is this this is terror if hey I'm a guy who goes to the theme parks for the theming. As you know, I'm a wimp.

I don't go for G-forces and thrills. I go for theming. So if I'm going to go to a place that's about theming, what is this shit theming? Yeah, here's the feeling I get. And I don't know this. I didn't see this on any of those websites. But I get the sense that this was like last second. This is a last second thing.

They announced this at D23 last year, and I think we can tell it's last second because we didn't hear any rumors about it. All of a sudden, they're like, and next year, Pixar Pier coming. And usually, when something big happens, we've heard a little rumbling on one of those websites we were mentioning before we've there was some feeling of like oh something's coming this was totally new so i have a feeling like it was a last second decision we got to do something there was a limited budget here yeah let's make this happen in six because they closed everything in january yeah they turned it around fast and you can tell in places that this was a fast job and there's stuff that doesn't make sense the mickey thing clearly to me is like

people love that mickey mouse ferris wheel yeah people like it more than the terrifying baby son used to adorn the like the the rosy the rosacea cheeked uh sun cherub that used to be in the center of the ferris wheel signaling everyone's death there's like you would see something like that in a nightmare where you were gonna about to die like it's a ring face yes yeah i remember hearing someone um what was the other oh yeah mickey and the sun wheel uh the old sun wheel um but there used to be the mickey thing in the roller coaster loop right didn't there used to be mickey ears yeah kind of abstract mickey ears kind of with an epcot uh that was a birth earth on the roller coaster yeah yeah yeah i liked that i kind of missed that a couple years ago i was at the park and i heard a guest ask a cast member hey what why why come the mickey ears aren't on the roller coaster

and i was like that's been i was just like wow people really like seeing mickey at play because i was like that's been gone for years and people are still like oh why did you get rid of that i like that so i i kind of understand why they left Mickey on the Ferris wheel, even though it doesn't make any sense. No, I thought, I mean, what would they have done? Would they have replaced Mickey with John Lasseter's giant face? I mean, God damn it. Look, when I was over there, I said that same thing to my girlfriend.

I said, well, who would they have replaced Mickey with? John Lasseter's face? Was that the idea? The dictator of Pixar. Yeah. Power mad. Recently resigned and disgraced. Yes.

It's a screen, though. That Mickey thing is a screen. What? I'm pretty sure. Or it can change colors, at least, for the World Color Show. Oh, yeah, sometimes they project on it. And that's another thing. That's another funny thing i found out about they took this time while the pier is closed to like do work on the fountains and stuff and damage them what so it's gonna take even longer

to get world of color back up and running has it not been for a while it's not been running for a while and this map i think probably printed it in advance about like these attractions close early due to world of color uh i don't think world of color is in sight anytime soon because they have the paint the night parade going here yeah so that's it's all diversions it's all diversions he's gaslighting us left and right. It's Pixar Fest now going on as well at the whole resort. Which is different than Pixar. It's always good to have two new things with one similar word. So Pixar Fest is happening and they moved the parade. They moved the Pixar Play Parade to Disneyland,

which is the parade that was always at California Adventure. And then they moved Paint the Night to the other park. So for Pixar Fest, Pixar Play moved from the place where Pixar Pier is. Yes, now it's in Disneyland. But Pixar Fest is happening at both parks, not just Pixar Pier Park. Oh. And Pixar Play Parade is at Disneyland. But the new Incredibles float is in Paint the Night, which is at California

Adventure. Yeah, so the new float in the parade is in Paint the Night, but is not in the Pixar Play Parade. There's no new float in Pixar Play Parade, which is in Disneyland, not in California Adventure by Pixar Pier. It's still an unpleasant parade. There's a little bit of blood coming out of Scott's ear. I don't know what that is.

I'm one more Pixar Plaza away from falling on the ground I don't know what that is. I'm one more name. I'm one more Pixar. Pixar Plaza away from falling on the ground and seizuring. Let's just slow down. I will just say the names of the things we said, and you will tell us where they are. Pixar Pier is where? California Adventure. Disney California Adventure, which doesn't have an apostrophe or an S, damn it.

That's right. Pixar Play Parade is where? It was in Disney California Adventure, and now it's in disneyland park uh-huh uh but pixar fest is where it is in both parts that's correct disneyland resort resort wide resort wide where is the new incredibles float i think it's a trick so i think it's in the in the paint the night parade paradise gardens park famously is the non-pixar related area and of course paradise pier hotel has not been renamed oh god i forgot about that it about the hotel. Did you guys think about that? It's still... It's still...

There's a hotel named after a part of the park that no longer exists. Pixar Pier, Paradise Pier Hotel, Paradise Gardens Park. What's going on, Disney? This is the loudest I've gotten on the podcast ever. Feel free to check my levels. I'm upset. Yeah, I gotta check.

Oh, yeah, yeah, you're going. This is what's supposed to be sending me to disneyland for the summer braving the hottest temperature ever recorded it's it's like much much hotter than the opening day where women's heels melted into the concrete i'm supposed to go there now to see all of these confusing p brands jason's mad he has coffee almost spilled uh it's coming apart in all fairness it's also supposed to distract you a year from now when you are waiting to get into what could be the most immersive themed experience ever created it better be you're supposed to be uh waiting in line for the incredico coaster while eating you know an angry dog which is a spicy corn dog now available those brands are clear at least do you well okay you guys went we went on

the sunday after it opened just to to uh just stemming from angry dog uh which is themed after the the anger uh lewis black character from inside out yes would you guys like to talk about the the food which me having not been it seems like from the sound of it maybe the pixar pier food is one of the more successful elements of pixar pier uh yeah we can do that so um yeah let's build to the incredicoaster. So, the food. So, I had an Angry Dog. It was a spicy hot dog, and I liked it. It's a little stand. But here's the thing.

With all the food, I feel like there's some catches. So, the Angry Dog's a little stand. They have, like, a big, like, then they served it to you with um flaming hot cheetos fries which are kind of like handicaps hot fries not flaming hot cheetos flaming hot cheetos fries and so it's weird dusting the uh but not french fries it's like a bag like a bag of chips essentially so you're saying it's it's confusing theming that doesn't let you know what you're actually getting. Much like the land you're getting them in. So, but I think it's clever.

Oh, it's a hot, it's a spicy hot dog, spicy chips. Sorry, but what are they? Fries? They're not fries. They're like. They're hot Cheetos. They're like hot Cheetos, but they're shaped like fries. Like Andy Kapp's hot fries.

Do you guys eat Andy Kapp's hot fries? No. Jason is referencing a comic strip character andy capp from 1950s what it's a snack food i know it is i'm just saying that where at islands of adventure or in the world jason's family bought uh in the 1950s a stockpile of andy capp hot fries and he's been eating them this is another one of my weird regional things um anyway so so you get the spicy, and then there's a big condiment, and they got ketchup and spicy ketchup, mustard and spicy mustard,

like buffalo sauce. But here's the thing. So there's this row of condiment dispensers to customize your hot dog. It is directly next to a standing bar where you can like stand for a couple minutes and eat your hot dog but they share the same like physical space so like as people are trying to quickly get in and out and dress their dog there's also people lingering to stay so it's just like wait how did you this is like if you put a wall on that standing bar, then people can only stand on one side and then you would clear,

like it's a weird logistical thing. Jason, you're using your, you have your Marcus Limonis helmet on right now and I appreciate it. He would be shaking his head and crossing his arms real hard about this thing. It came up again at Jack Jack's Cookie Num Noms, which is, I'm still trying to process my feelings on jack

jack's cookie num nums uh uh mike you've been to jack jack's twice now jack jack's what yeah jack jack's cookie num nums um and which is they you know it's a part of the narrative on the ride and then at the end of the ride you get to in the movie in the movie as well um and then you can go to pixar pier and get a jack jack cookie num num yeah so it's a cookies and milk stand which is kind of clever i i again that's an interesting idea sure it's an interesting idea to have cookies and milk um in the park i feel like they don't have like a designated cookies and milk like they probably yeah i feel like they don't have like a designated cookies and milk like probably yeah i guess experience well you're saying that you can get cookies and milk in the park everywhere except they just don't have it dedicated together in one stand so yes that is

a new thing i guess so i have been you pulled it off everybody so so i went down with you and we had a few things and i will will also, I will reveal this. I follow the Disney Parks blog on Twitter. And what that means is that sometimes they have opportunities for, you know, 150 to 200 people to sign up and get a free special event. And of course, I have my Twitter set to give me an alert when a tweet happens from the Disney Parks blog. So I can get first dibs on something like a crazy experience for free you you switched out your amber alerts that alerts you to a kidnapped child and now your phone vibrates and sirens at you when there's a disney parks

blog event it's uh it's exactly the same there's a new candy apple michael get down here candy apple uh so i was driving a car and i saw an alert and this i swear to god i was at a light i looked down alert an alert popped up and it said pixar pier meetup i grabbed my phone hit the button it went right to like put in your email i didn't even see what the event was, what the date was. I didn't care. I know you got to move fast on one of these things. Put my email in and submit it and said, you've been accepted to the Pixar Pier meetup. And I was like, great. I'll see what the date was later.

And of course, it was July 2nd. Collided with an elderly woman crossing the street. James Dean Spider. It was worth it, though, for that free event that I got to go to. And I went with Lindsay. I did not take either of my co-hosts to this event. I apologize, but sometimes I have to, you know, take the woman that is my significant other. Sometimes.

Much to Jason's chagrin. Jason was probably upset with me. Thanks for nothing, Dad dad he thinks of me as a father figure we know that uh so we went down and and they do these like i really shouldn't tell the audiences because people are going to now set alerts for disney parks blog and it's going to be even harder to get uh a reservation to some place like this and i've done this a couple times so you so basically we go in at 7 30 they give you a free admission to california adventure which is amazing which i did not need but like you get free admission wait if you sign up for this thing you get the park for free well depending on what time

the event is but yeah for like it's starting at 7 30 you got just free admission california after four or five so you get like oh it's a limited amount of time yeah but the one how long i like to go for but the one yeah but the one i did in 2014 was early in the morning and it was free and that's when i didn't have a pass just kind of coincidentally and it was for all day at disneyland like we had a whole free day and they gave us a bunch of free stuff this crazy this this system is over because you talked about it they someone will hear this and they will end it by day's end of this episode being released i should just cut this out um just mute a couple of the words on mute parks or blog and if you heard a bleep for either of those you know which one we settled on um so so this

particular event we went at 7 30 they give you we got like we got free stuff which is crazy when you go to disney because you don't get free stuff that often uh we got free i'm showing the showing you guys we got free pixar fest ears with edna edna mode on one ear and jack jack on the other um very cute kind of kind of the buddies the buddy duo of the the new movie that's very cute their partnership yes and uh uh so so they they the event basically was like hey here's here's free reservations to paint the night parade which we did not go to uh then we went because we went, because we went to the new restaurant. Sorry, also, the back of these hats has the silhouettes of some of the Pixar characters,

and they all take me a sec to figure out, but especially this splat over, this mustard stain over on the far right. Can you even tell what that is, Red? I mean, I think you'll get it from here. I can't. I think it is one of the other fish. I want to say it's Nemo, but it could also be Nemo's dad. I think it might be Albert Brooks.

Yeah. That it's even in question. Nemo's. Nemo's. Oh, it's pears. I think it's friends. So Pixar Fest is about celebrating friendship and beyond. So it's Woody and Buzz, Doug and boy uh and uh dory and uh adult manfish

so for this celebration of friendship you chose to go with your girlfriend instead of your best bro jason um yeah he betrayed the sentiments of the hat you absolute fool i know i'm sorry also i set you up to talk about jack jack's cookie numb nose not to write a uh ilia well i have to explain how i got to experience two different type of jack jack's cookie numb nose okay so so yeah so so all i'm saying is that there's this event we got to see Imagineers talk about Pixar Pier. And then what they did, and I'll show you, I have the remnants of it, is that we got a lanyard that had a little tab on it for a free each thing that they have at Pixar Fest. A free Jack-Jack cookie num-num. But not at Paradise Gardens Park.

No, no. Just at Pixar Pier. So I'm saying I got to do, I a jack jack cookie num num with you and then when at this event i got to try the shortbread cookie as well yeah that's really what i was leading so i mean the jack the classic jack jack's cookie num num uh the word classic you used to refer to something that is two weeks old uh is a deep dish chocolate chip cookie served warm brown butter chocolate chip cookie i believe as well i think that's right yeah and more like a chocolate chunk cookie i should say it's chunks not chips uh i'm a big chocolate chip cookie guy

i thought it was delicious i love that it's an option in the park not terribly expensive but to put my marcus lamotis hat on uh there were some problems with jack jack's cookie dum-dums and kind of paradise pier at large which is sorry pixar pier see oh this is a nightmare um uh it is literally a stand right after after you get off the roller coaster and the queue is just stand next to the roller coaster there's no and there's no shade as far as the eye can see so it was i think it was only like 80 degrees or something when you and i uh were there waiting in line for cookie num nums but what which jack jack's sorry sorry to confuse you uh so we are sitting and there's not a cloud in the sky we are sitting just just in the raw orange county sun to be sweating to then be served

a hot cookie num num and the beverage op jack jack's cookie no no the beverage options at this cart are milk or milk uh substitutes strawberry milk which is strawberry milk yeah both times by the way uh so you're saying milk was a bad choice yeah so i'm saying yeah in as the funny guy in your office says too much milk was a bad choice. You get your choice of milk, interestingly, to paraphrase Ron Burgundy, on this lanyard you have. That's what happened, yes. Choice of cookie and one milk offering. Yeah.

Yeah, I got a milk. Lindsay and I got a lanyard, too, so we both got a milk offering. We both got a different milk offering. So you had two different milk offerings. Your lanyard got you a milk offering from Locale 1B from the Disney Dining Pixar Parks blog. God, I can't. I'm getting dyslexia from this episode. I can't.

My brain can't retain any more dull specifics. Yeah, there's too many in this episode. I'm so sorry to some of the listeners we'll provide a transcript we'll write it all out mike when you and i were there uh did we also wait like 25 minutes for jack jack's cookie nuns it felt like a while it was a while i mean this is also one of the you weekends. It is the first weekend. So people were very excited to try it. So yeah, but it was a while and it was in the heat. And the cookie I thought was good. It was good.

It's probably the best of all the new things they have there. Yeah. Is it amazing? Is it as good as a Pazuki from BJ's? I don't think it is. I think it probably costs as much. I'm sure it does cost as much i'm just and i understand you can't get like a give everyone a hot skillet no no you don't want a hot skillet because if you don't know it this wonderful chain restaurant called bj's is like

a hot skillet cookie with some ice cream on top and it's delicious it's the best hot cookie i've ever had i think it's a superior num num yeah it's a better scale than jack jack's cookie num nums yeah so we stood in the hot sun to eat warm cookies and coldish milk um and here's milk offerings but like put some umbrellas in that line like it it's the it's it's gonna be summer for a while and then my other thing about jack jack's cookie num nums as you are finally getting to get your cookie num num you've got a great view of this industrial pipe covered in tape right above the uh the queue yeah there's a lot so yeah so the this is no shot at the imagineers or anything but

it's clear that this time wise was such a crunch that everything is not finished they had a deadline before they had an assessment of what they had to build the roller coaster could have used a full repaint just the white part of the roller coaster like some of that looks like it's old so you're i mean the the fish stinks from the head down here it's not there's i'm sure a lot of good imagineers worked hard on this thing yes and i saw them structurally what they had to achieve in a short amount of time and probably with imagineering staff all over the map with all of the projects going on globally, maybe they didn't get to give all the love to Pixar Pier that they should have. Yes, I think that we would never blame Imagineers, the hardworking,

the workers that maybe had to paint and had to do all this stuff. I would lay the blame solely at the feet of Bob Chapek, head of Parks and Resorts. Uh-oh. He's the one who gave them a deadline and gave them an amount of money. He's the guy that obviously put all this stuff in place and maybe it was impossible, maybe didn't give enough people and man hours.

But we're still fishing for more free stuff and early access to things, and yet we're calling out bob chapek specifically i think that bob if he's a businessman he respects that we have the balls to do this and that he that we're he knows we're watching him and out of respect bob chapek will say well i don't always agree with these theme park journalists but we need them to cover and keep me honest that's what i'm hoping at least. So with that said, just a reminder, the adorable snowman, frosty treats, lemon ice is dog shit. That's wrong, by the way.

It's not dog shit. That's wrong. It's bad. It's not bad. One at a time. Guys, Jason, make your argument and Mike, make your rebuttal. All right, Jason, you go first. It's bad and it upset me and I don't want to have it again.

Great argument, Mike. Well, I liked it and bad and it upset me and I don't want to have it again great argument Mike well uh I liked it and I thought it tasted pretty good and I got the blue yes it was tart it was a little too tart I'll tell you this though it's less tart than when you had it because again I've had it twice now I had the regular cone with the tart ice cream and then the the white chocolate dip which is very minuscule amount of white chocolate i agree with you but then i got the full one that has the tart uh new soft serve and that blue slush crap in it and i thought that the ice cream itself was less tart now i think they made a bit of adjustment the day we were there maybe they had the machine set to like

75 tart and that was too much and now it's maybe down to 50 and it's much better all right it's a much more to to again put on the phrase i'm invoking the marcus helmet uh you only get one chance with most consumers most people make their decision yeah the first time around and uh you know though though i do want to hold jason to the standard of theme park journalism where he has to uh go back and eat a dessert he didn't like another time to make sure that the machine is running more efficiently this time around most people most regular folks are not going to do that and you got to set your you're going to set your tartometer correctly the first time that's why you have to have the proper process in place and the right people and the right people the best product the best product possibly can yeah so at pixar pier or paradise

gardens park now now that you've said that and i am likely more forgiving than the average consumer maybe i'll give it another shot but i also i'll try that $8 option With a bunch of blue crap in it That's what I had and I had it a complimentary Because of the Pixar Pier meetup But even the day When we had it that it was a little too tart I still didn't think it was dog shit Dog shit is maybe some other

Another thing I had Well I don't say I wouldn't say dog shit I don't use language like that When I'm describing this stuff You didn't like Doug wouldn't say dog shit. I don't use language like that when I'm describing this stuff, but. You didn't like Doug the dog's dog shit? Just call it worms and dirt, guys. Worms and dirt has worked for 30 years.

It's just a bowl of beans. We have to reinvent. It's just a bowl of beans. Doug's dog shit. Gus 1250. I'll say, I didn't love the angry dog jason no no and here's here's what i'll say and i'm not trying to play one up i'm not trying to get back at you for what you just did to the adorable snowman's frosted treat stand but the angry dog it's nothing it's not it's it's it's the

laziest thing i think on the pier it's it's just like a like a mildly spicy hot dog but it looks just like a hot dog i got when i played soccer when i was in third grade i'm not saying it's a revelatory i'm just saying it's nice it's a nice step up from the default disney hot dog but it's like a little more a little more so just the basic boring hot dog. But it looks a little more spice. It's so just the basic boring hot dog. Like, as I said to Lindsay, I said, you know what they need? They need, like, a bun or something. They need something, like, fun, like a cheddar habanero or jalapeno bun, a poofier bun.

Don't make this look like everything is just, like, tinfoil crammed hot dog that you would like somebody would grill up for a bunch of kids after they played sports oh no go ahead no i mean i think that's great i think the resort why they need kind of a bun upgrade for hamburgers and hot dogs now i agree now finally we can come together here and agree that resort wide a bun upgrade is necessary these buns look soggy they look cheap i don't think it would take more than a couple cents and agree that resort-wide, a bun upgrade is necessary. These buns look soggy. They look cheap. I don't think it would take more than a couple cents to do a puffier bun that made this feel more like a meal.

It can dress up the fact that it's a cheap hot dog. I would pay an extra 50 cents for a brioche. I feel like brioche, once you start seeing brioche at McDonald's and Burger King, it's ubiquitous. There's a way to churn it out in large quantities and cheap. Yeah. Scott, have you ever noticed that the buns are lacking at the Disneyland Resort? I have to admit, my hot dog intake has decreased significantly since my childhood.

However, I appreciate your passion on it, and I think this is a good use of the extra profit that disney has lying around so i'm gonna say number one get those buns better number two try to raise rates for uh disney minimum wage employees but let's let first things first the bun issue it's easier with the bun to get the buns up i think so yeah do take care of the buns and then get around to paying everyone uh more than nine dollars an hour uh yeah so and they'll make more profits from the better buns right the word is gonna spread we're gonna once the buns are fixed we'll get on here we will tell our audience they did it

thank you bob chapek for listening and paying attention i mean at least we're past the wheat bun phase i feel like there was a time where like the burgers and hot dogs all came on like like wheat bread is the thing of the moment and like even disney tried it and it's just like oh this is terrible like this, this is... Yeah, weed buns are not significantly different. This is a side issue, but the only time a year, really, I have a hot dog is at the Los Angeles Open Golf Tournament, which I go to with my dad every year at the Riviera Country Club, and the hot dog situation there is aggressively poor. Food lines also in the sun, unshaded, that go back and back that take a half an hour of time

that you could be watching golfers like jordan speith uh make or possibly miss putts so if anyone listening has any influence on the los angeles open golf tournament just go back to the it used to be hot dogs you just grabbed out of a tray and then went and paid 12 for let's go back to the it used to be hot dogs you just grabbed out of a tray and then went and paid 12 for let's go back to that now that's a side track but if we're if this episode is going to be full of hot dog passion then i feel like i should probably convey mine is the would you say that that that the uh whatever that is the golf tournament um do they need a bun upgrade uh absolutely the buns are yeah the buns have been weak for a long time and i've watched it happen for like i've i've gone every year since the early 90s and i've watched i i think there's been a much sharper decline in bun quality than in hot

dog the hot dog quality than frank quality i guess you would say he's getting sad sad or no i mean it's a low standard of excellence for hot dog you go to like a grocery store and you buy a pack of hot dogs you buy a pack of buns you go into a barbecue like those buns are like a dollar like yes it's it's you just need something to hold the hot dog and toppings that's really what you want yeah and the presentation is what i i'm talking about too it's just wrapped like give me a little something give me put it not in the uh tinfoil but give it in a little um paper tray those little thank you yes paper trays that makes it look nicer the impression of an upgraded product yeah i want the i want optics to be better on this too yeah you know it's funny there's been that naked burger trend for a long time people you get and get it in a lettuce wrap instead of a bun this has never been desired for a hot dog

no one has ever wanted no never hot dog and maybe if you found a way to wrap it in a pickle but there's no way for the pickle to not overpower the hold on i gotta do a whiteboard draw out your concepts maybe this maybe this pickle spiral will end up looking appealing i think that's actually a good idea i kind of like it yeah how do you hold it together you got to fuse it together there's got to be some well fondant equivalent i'm picturing like a full dill pickle that you cut a triangle out of and you put the hot dog in that now that functions as a bun but again you're getting pickle on three sides and a hot dog only on one. But then it really is a pickle that happens to have a hot dog in it, which sounds terrible. Yeah, see, that's the proxy.

Oh, man. Hmm. If there's some spiral where it's like a shish kebab situation with a wedge of pickle, a wedge of pepper, a wedge of tomato. Oh, that's delightful. Yeah. I think we're developing an interesting we're still workshopping in here but there's some like hot dog spiral notion yeah yeah we'll we'll start working that out and we'll announce our plans in future episodes that would be great for

pixar because the hot dog is friends with the pickle he's friends with the peppers friends with the tomato that's the sort of upgraded product he wanted at pixar pier yeah that's true so this is friendship and beyond we're celebrating the friendship between hot dogs and condiments and then and and beyond what could beyond mean we're the only ones brave enough to imagine it we'll have we'll have these out for you guys to purchase before we have t-shirts we're gonna get into the hot dog game where are we gonna mail these to people how's this business gonna work that's a good question we'll figure that out we'll call marcus we we haven't talked we have to talk about two what is this we haven't you know

we haven't talked about is the fucking roller coaster there's actually there's a lot more to talk about before we get to the roller coaster so i'm not rushing to get there i'm just saying if the fans might be thinking any listeners might be thinking that. I mean, I think it's clearly like the thing of the land. So probably best to build, as I said, Senior Buzz's churros. How were they? You had one. So we had, okay.

So Senior Buzz's churros, again, got them complimentary because of the Pixar peer meetup. Lindsey got a normal churro just cinnamon sugar these are giant too i mean you've seen these at the party these are not small churros these are like a foot long i got the red hot churro because i had to try the silliest one and that is literally like a churro just dipped in red hots the candy red hots hots. And it's bright neon red. And it is good. It is fun for half of it.

It's fun for half of it, but it's a lot. If you like, it's honestly, I liked it better than the hot dog, which I was expecting to hate it because I was like, this is, I don't really,

red hots are kind of good, but this is a lot happening i would say hi talking about blue the blue crap the abominable snow treats are better because it has blue crap yeah the blue crap was fine red hots are kind of good yeah so so i would say the red hots would be good chair share it it's a fun novelty if you have a significant other or one of your best pals you know yeah start at each end meet in the middle it's just it's a lot it's a lot of sugary i think it's a fun idea though and the senior buzz is a fun little thing from toy story 3 i'll say this though you see your so and it's named after him so great yes uh let's say this senor buzz churro stand is the worst themed stand there it's flat

it looks like it's just like kind of drawn on it doesn't have any like like for instance angry dogs has anger from inside out and it's a 3d little version of him that looks good yeah and it's got yeah it's like steam coming out and a big hot dog over his brain which is like if you saw a picture of what jason is thinking about most of the day would look similar to this uh so yeah you will post a picture of it uh um but this yeah the stand is by far the weakest stand it looks pretty cheap uh again not blaming the imagineers for it they're wonderful people no oh sorry go ahead oh i was gonna say uh uh the i think the nicest stand theme wise i have not eaten yet and you have a comically long story about why you have not eaten there uh the poultry palace right it looks like a little

takeout box so yes it still kind of thematically doesn't fit with the land which is all kind of like victorian and like all of a sudden there's just this cartoon box of chicken just sitting in the middle of there but it is at least something kind of elaborate what does this have to do with pixar oh yeah it's from uh from some movie it's a it's one of the fictional chains in one of the pixar movies like pizza Planet. Poultry Palace is like a KSC kind of thing. Everything is double P's. Pixar Pier, Paradise Park. Oh, yeah.

Oh, it's from a Toy Story short called Small Fry, where there's like a Happy Meal versions of Buzz Lightyear and Emperor Zurg. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. So, that's where that comes from. And there's a store also that's named after the, it's Nick's Nacks, which is named after the snowman

and one of the first shorts, the snowman and a snow globe in one of the early Pixar shorts. Yes, that's true. Which I think is kind of neat in a cool way. Those, I've read about how those, those early Pixar shorts were like so important to the development of this medium.

And they would show, you'd show up at this thing called sig graph that uh where people showed off new developments in computer animation and people would show like a 360 shot of a head or something like these things were sometimes now you'd think it's nothing but they but they were actually like technological massive leaps forward right that pixar that they showed up with stories a story about a bee or about a snowman and takes you to a world yeah they like um yeah you cannot underestimate the importance of those old shorts even they i think some of them were like oh this can be the future

but i i know from reading one of the steve jott's biographies a lot of the thought was like well this will help us sell the render man software. This is a proof of concept. Look what you can do with this. Oh, yeah, because the point of Pixar was not... That's why it is bizarre if you back up and there's a whole area named after Pixar at a theme park. Because Pixar was once the most functional company. And Lucas bought it for a while and did nothing with it. And couldn't figure out how to make it work for him.

And then Steve Jobs took it in this direction that became one of the primary storytelling brands. It's kind of insane when you think about the whole history. I do have to wonder what he would think of this area, what Jobs would think of this area. What would Steve say about Poultry Palace? Yeah. How far my baby has come.

Famously, Tony Baxter said that Steve Jobs rode the Nemo sub ride, and he said that he was expecting Steve Jobs to come off and just give him the normal, like, great job, good, thanks so much, see you later, whatever. But he immediately pointed out one of the flaws. He immediately pointed out what was the weakest part of the ride. That one part was not so good oh and that's all he did so i would imagine if he uh if he thought there was a problem he would say something yeah that that is he would have a similar complaint

about the buns i think that's like the devil's advocate is like well that's just kind of how it was and if he gave a comment like that that meant he really engaged with it that he saw that and the other side is that like well he was kind of a notorious asshole yeah yeah sure so i wish that he had survived to be able to present all of these new food items at the keynotes and one more thing cut to uh churro covered in red dots scott let me ask you I want to know what do you think so poultry palace it's just a stand okay it's a quick takeaway like snack kind of thing what

do you think the so you know there's only three to four menu items kind of stand they can only stock so much and they want to get you in and out what do you think they are what do you think is for sale there um the the the quickest kind of chicken you would have to think are uh nuggets or fingers or uh uh popcorn bites or what have you not available what all right you lured me in uh

what's instead traditional theme park turkey leg. That makes sense. Okay. The main thing they're slinging is a box of three fried chicken drumsticks and a cup of coleslaw. Huh. That famous meal we all know and love. A cup. As I said on the Twitter account.

And where do you eat it? You're on your own, friend. Boy, Marcus would be as angry as anger himself. You know what else that means? There are trash cans around this stand that will just fill up all day with thin cardboard boxes covered, filled with chicken bones. I think that what might happen to Pixar Pier is what happens to the floor of a Hooters or a dirtier like chicken place where you just throw the bones on the floor pixar pier will just be covered in bones that's kind of fun you feel like you're some kind of like conqueror of empires as you walk

through there you can imagine you killed they're all people that you you had murdered uh you're as powerful as chapek uh and full disclosure none of us has had this pixar uh the poultry palace chicken yet the reviews are not good which is insane to me because right across the way at uh uh in disneyland on main street you can get some of the best fried chicken i have ever eaten yeah so so we didn't have the poultry palace because what happened was we basically had, after going for the meetup thing, after seeing Imagineers speak,

they basically for an hour and a half let us loose in Pixar Pier and it was awesome because there was like 150 people so we could go on any ride as much as we wanted. Any of the two rides. Any of the three.

Toy Story Mania was open too for us. Oh, the two rides. Any of the three. Three. Toy Story Mania was open, too, for us. Oh, the fun, yeah. The fun one that's been there for years. Oh, my God, these names. So we had already eaten dinner, and we were like, how are we going to eat all this food?

It's insane. How about don't? That's an option? We had to try it all. And also the thing is, to add more of a wrinkle to this problem i had just flown in from chicago where i went to a baseball game the day before where a friend of mine had a very good tickets and there's a thing called club 1914 at wrigley field where you can eat all you want and drink all you want so i was in another situation two days in a row 48 hours where i gorged myself

on food and treats mike carlson the most sympathetic figure i know it's not i'm too many free meals to eat i'm sounds like he's a member of the leisure class that boy that's deep that's a refer that's the film from project green light that i don't really remember that well i'm assuming it's about like rich people with too much time on their hand or like it's about a guy who's eating hot dogs got too many hot dogs to meet to eat cross-country well i have to rewatch this so yeah look don't feel sorry for me i'm just saying that i had a horrible headache the night of the baseball game because of overindulging. And then I flew to Los Angeles where, again, I was forced, again, in my mind, forced to eat six or seven free things.

Because, again, I'm a theme park journalist, so I need to try them out so we could then discuss them. You're blaming the audience is what you're doing. I am blaming the audience. Whoever listening is responsible for your body trauma much like i blamed you guys for not correcting me on the tiki room i am blaming the audience for making me eat all this free stuff like our president it's never your fault yes that's what i'm saying i'm just like the president uh so we so so we were running out of time we We were standing and trying to eat stuff. And we're like, we only have 20 minutes left. We should go on the rides again.

That's actually better. And then the Poultry Palace line was by far the longest. Because I think everybody put it off. Everyone was like, yeah, yeah, we'll get to the chicken later. Well, it comes in a box with handles so you could take it home. Because fried chicken is good hot or cold. Excuse excuse my language we made a big fucking mistake we should have gotten that poultry palace first to get the box and then loaded in things to take home later that would have been a great idea but we didn't do it because to say it again we made a big fucking mistake

and we were we honestly we were we were like that's what we should have done because we had like eaten half of everything and thrown a lot of stuff away because there's no way there's no way i can eat a full churro a hot dog a blue and yellow thing three drumsticks a cookie num num a thing of milk uh water and the meal i'd already eaten at lamplight lounge i'm so confused how you're not obese you're a you're an in shape man i've i've only i've had many a meal with you been out many times yeah i've only seen you eat horse shit it's i've never seen a reasonable some plates like i have seen him you're very lucky is what i'm saying i am very lucky i don't i have to like i walk like three miles every morning and i like pound water all day long just to maintain this uh look i look it's not like i don't have to do anything you know maybe i starve myself

on the days that i don't eat a bunch of bullshit a bunch of uh sprinkled if there's sprinkles or multi-colors i have to eat it i am a child i acknowledge that there you were you had a meal with the dough boys and they referenced it on their podcast and they said they had a lot of sprinkles in it that's kind of a child's meal but i thought it was good yeah yeah weiger did her say it was a child's meal and i don't disagree with that um i'm just trying to live the way i wanted to live when i was five and i'm getting pretty close you know that's all i'm getting pretty close that's what we're all doing um so yeah yeah don't don't feel sorry for me but um well let's you mentioned it uh this is a

one thing that people have been saying is a highlight of Pixar Pier is Lamplight Lounge. Yes. A very nicely designed, formerly the Cove Bar in Ariel's Grotto. Now it's all just kind of one. It all kind of connects and it's all got the same design style. It is a separate restaurant and bar still. Yeah, it's, so I had never eaten at Ariel's Grotto. I don't think you guys have either

no no but we have been to the cove bar many times sure one of our favorite places i think in disney's california adventure it's right by the water uh right by the pier you get your lobster nachos you get a i think you've both probably seen me get mickey's fun wheel the secret cocktail that's multi-colored brightly colored child's alcohol drink describe it if you had to visualize it what are they gonna call that drink now i think it might be called the same thing uh i think it's a secret because they can't put mickey in the title of an alcoholic drink on a menu oh oh but it's like it's so it's the pixar pixar's flavor pals it's five flavors all being pals together yeah the colors are friends it's called you're staying late tonight uh we have a deadline tomorrow we're all staying late now uh there are a lot of menu items at lamplight lounge where it's

like this is what the anime like this is named after like like deadline or yeah like short like all like terms that might get thrown around at pixar or like explain this one one meal called don't touch my leg john you know stuff you'd hear around pixar That type of thing. Hug your wife, not me. I'll take the hug your wife, not me. Explain this to your sons. Look them in the eye and explain your choices to your family. Yeah. We ordered the get a let a woman talk cocktail.

Yeah. The idea, I didn't know this till i read it so i was paragraphs deep in a la times article that the theme of the lamplight lounge is that you're in a pixar break area it's like a bar where the animators and stuff would hang out yeah so the idea where you want to be just where you want to be 18 with everything we we've learned. Just a place where all the Pixar people are getting loose. Oh, and did you know there's a secret room called The Office that locks from the outside? There's like a crazy combination lock. You got the Matt Lauer button is inside too in case you want to be alone.

It looks like, yeah, there's a lot of drawings inside right a lot of sketches and signatures and all that kidding aside the idea of a secret room in a disney restaurant is awesome yeah sure that's always um but because of the pixar connection it seems like i don't know if it's open yet yeah i think that like there's i don't know how you get in yet there's a whole like kind of a like a slot machine system on the door that like you pull it and like if you get you know there might be clue or you're given clues or something i don't know it's it's going to be a thing you can reserve it really is a secret it's a it is yeah it's just a dining room it's just a private dining room there's little ones like at the carthay i've eaten in one there's little like side rooms with only one table in them and um yeah so so yeah the lamplight lounge um yeah the top floor is still

basically the same just repainted as the cove bar but then below it's like very brick it's very modern gastro pub that's what everything is now la gastro pub sort of thing um and they there's a lot of uh they've renamed there's a lot of new items on the menu they call the kids uh the kids menu budding artists uh and all the cocktails there's a lot of fun cocktails they have fun as we were saying names plot twist over budget final with a fix the sequel park avenue sizzle reel i don't want to hear about the fucking minions don't tell me how well dreamworks did this year the actual director goes uncredited for this film the 25th rewrite throwing out half the movie because it's not working cal arts students dragged on bluth on the internet this is it's finally a restaurant

that acknowledges it's it's close to being a restaurant themed after that secret shelved documentary that sting's wife made you know about that have you seen that yeah yeah yeah yeah uh which which movie is it about uh what's it called it's called something awful like you know it's it's called like the like the hell house or the cauldron it's some like it's a name that describes that it seems to imply the disney process is uh terrible and difficult and and what was it um was in the emperor's new groove because sting was originally doing all of the songs for the movie uh kingdom of the sun what was it right something like that became the emperor's new groove was a much more austere film with songs by sting and he and so though so i mean it follows

the entire creative process of the movie but it's also kind of sting centric and it lets sting complain to his wife about how badly it's all going and he ended up with like one song in the credits after like years of work and he was trying to get brand new day out the door he was worried he was trying to get to he's trying to get desert rose out into the market and tour it and he's having to waste time with these uh these disney that was his comeback too um oh yeah uh-huh and it all got delayed because of all the time he spent uh messing around with disney that bring reminds me uh listeners another documentary that you can find i think i think it's on youtube at this point um waking sleeping beauty if you haven't seen that about like the resurgence of disney animation some stuff in there also like not exactly a positive document like i mean it's fascinating

to see how it all came together and what made everything work but there's so many shots of like yeah and then they cram the animators in a barely air-conditioned warehouse and uh by the burbank airport and oh that's right because little uh like they animators had kind of sweeter digs on the disney lot and they were considering killing the program altogether yeah and they got put into this kind of sweat lodge uh yeah and that's where the little mermaid was was birthed they like worked their way out of it and by the time that classic period was done there's now the incredibly very very nice disney animation building that you see off the 134 freeway in burbank with the big sorcerer's hat actually i

think it i think i i had that wrong i think it was zootopia something very recent they put for whatever reason they didn't have room for the production so they put them in an off-site location and they were like they made this big hit like by the runway of the burbank airport or something essentially huh weird um so these are the kind of conditions you can think about while you enjoy a meal at the lamplight lounge i'll have a uh right next to the burbank airport runway please yeah uh i'm assuming uh uh priced uh reasonably well a table service i think you might be leading me on here uh it's a little expensive so the problem was we knew that we were about to have to gorge ourselves later so i had this reservation it's very hard to

get right now uh so we just had some what they call bites you know not like a full meal uh lindsey had the deviled eggs and toast which were basically like a couple hard boiled eggs and like toast for 12 and was like this this really wasn't anything was it and i was like yeah that's a bit of bummer that wholesale rate is probably 50 cents worth of food no yeah absolutely it was um and then i had tuna poke which was good but it was 18 and it's a small amount of poke and it's supposed to be like their appetizer and it's like this is knock four dollars off this and then i'm i feel a little bit better four or five dollars um but i like the I like the poke fine.

And I got, what did I get? I got the, it wasn't as fun of a name. I got the nectar in the rye drink, which was like whiskey and, you know, some like peach fruit. Is that a play on catcher in the rye? Probably not, right? Probably not. This is the thing that I noticed looking at the lamplight menu you all know i'm a thrifty man but i give disney like all right it's disney park i know

you're gonna pay more a 21 spinach salad oh my god like the cheddar okay a 22 burger all right well it's got like tillamook cheddar on it and this and bacon and okay fine you up skip but like a chicken salad or like i don't this just seems a lot like it just seems like so much uh yeah yeah it seems a little expensive obviously i think i've read again read now that i think about it i've read that some of the stuff is good but these are all on these sites that i think might be uh bought and paid for bought and paid for not us obviously we've had no loose tongues this episode yeah we're like we're cranky today or something um the whole thing we have to scrap this whole episode i think for political purposes for yeah um well the whole thing like you guys are talking about it's an okay cookie

and all like that's this is why i can't just be at the theme parks all day every day because i like the rest restaurants are they're good for theme parks other than carthay circle other than a few options throughout the disney park universe like they aren't the best you don't get the best restaurants the best food in the world at these places yeah uh they're all at best they're very good impressions of real restaurants and like disneyland is one of the better food programs of any theme parks i mean florida is a lot more i feel like florida's just getting around to cupcakes like they're just getting around to uh it was like a couple years ago they're like we have cronuts now and it's like okay yeah about four years after any major city they got around too little too late i think the canteen uh in

pandora really ushered in um like better food at disney disney world that seems like a step up yes yeah like that's a good that's actually like i would have that meal if i could go walk to it that looks good well yeah you pick pick a protein pick a grain prick uh pick a sauce like that that's seems like actually what you probably should be eating to do these kind of like 10 hour days in the park yes a lot of protein high protein low carbs low sugar but you seem to be implying that if if pandora grill became an option at your local mall or just if if that if there were 100 locations uh you know u.s wide of pandora grill you'd be psyched oh yeah of course especially if they're the license, the Avatar license. Yeah. Yeah. Pandora Grove. I would go to a Saltuli canteen.

Saltuli canteen. We would go there every day. It'd be pretty exciting if Pandoran food landed and was like an equal to Mexican and Japanese. If it was a legitimate genre of food that emanated out of Disney World. I think it would be probably more like navi food because pandora's of the planet obviously a lot of different species have different types of food so i'm just saying so the food that you get there is the navi's food yeah but uh well well it depends on that but it's also the name of the place uh that's true you're right you're right call it

earth but i'm saying if we we transported you know french food to another planet would they just say earth food yeah maybe so they would say well earth food but it's specifically from the country of france i suppose so that's all i'm saying uh uh navi okay so the restaurant's called navi food but it's from pandora from pandora by pandora by from and by pandora that's branding the uh so the inside the lamplight lounge it's like a lot of brick it looks like honestly like at night like it seemed cool like it would be cool to hang out at the bar down there like that seems fun it's right by the water the music in there seems like and i don't know if this reference makes any sense to everyone here the music in there seems like um the woman clothing store Chico's, a commercial for that clothing store.

Like a lot of like 90s, like kind of house beat, seemingly like trying to be cool music. So music that has no genre music that is nothing yeah like a lot of things where like you can see they're like they'll like change how the drums sound like how the like they put like a lot of compression all of a sudden on the drums and then it becomes a difference like there's too much production going on in the music and it's supposed to sound hip but it ultimately as you said like sounds like nothing it's like crw's worst dj yeah someone had the faintest memory of samba and bossa nova musics yeah it's like it's like very like it has no absolutely no soul to at all and there's like so i because we went down there and i'm like oh they're going to

be playing like and i get it they don't want to just play like randy newman songs from pixar movies but why not but yeah also the maybe why not we're like maybe that would have been better like me like instrumental covers or like the incredibles music when they would like just the background music and in the quieter that loungy kind of stuff yeah maybe they're maybe we i just got on a stretch of music that i was maybe they do have that somewhere but so they play so it's a restaurant that plays really neutered hip hop has the most expensive spinach salad you've ever had uh it's themed after animators pulling long hours and if you went to if you weren't lucky enough to be part of a free event if i if we went

to disneyland right now we're recording this on a sunday afternoon if we got there by three o'clock how long are we waiting to get in the lamp? The Mickey and Friends parking structure is currently closed. Yes, well, first of all, please park at Dodger Stadium. We would wait for an hour to sit upstairs, but we wouldn't be able to go to this right now. Oh, that's something I wanted to talk about. You have to get reservations for downstairs which is the full menu okay this is a thing that really but this is like this is terrible show to me and it's still going we walked by it the day we were there so the upstairs is a bar and just like a normal

bar in the regular world you just kind of gotta wait you know if it's crowded you gotta wait for a seat to open up uh but unlike a bar in the regular world you can't just stand around so as you walk down this pier this brand new area there's just a mass of humanity there's just a line waiting to get into this bar and it was like that at the cove bar it's the same way now i don't understand why they don't just invest in that software for ipads where they just say like okay what's your name all right what's your phone number all right we'll text you when we're like 10 when your table's almost ready like why are they i have that for inside with the reservation

so i'm assuming they'll roll that out at a certain point but it seems yeah like they shouldn't make people i the the weight was that seems shorter when we were there so i don't know if they are doing that yet okay i i don't yeah i don't understand why i mean i guess in the park it's like oh well what if someone tries to go on soaring on the other side of the park and then they get back and then they had to give the table away but still like let people walk around or something like that just looks terrible to have this like brand new area and just like a snaking line as soon as you walk into it that's like terrible optics well yeah sure we'll see but when you've had a nice stroll up to up to the line with the chicken bones pouring out of a trash can stepping over uh cracking bones as you walk you're in a great mood it's crazy to me i mean because they have it at

the hotel restaurants i seem to remember like i feel like i when my family stayed at the grand californian they told us like all right we'll text you you can go to the lobby or go back i don't know they i'm sure that'll be coming if it hasn't come already guys we're an hour and a half in and we've avoided the roller coaster in the place well this is the last little bit right is that that's the main thing probably uh so let's talk we've ridden the we both ridden the incredible coaster now yes uh and the original california screaming yes uh scott have you ridden screaming i did but that's a launch coaster girlfriend who made me do such things then yes i I did.

I ended up going on it a second time. I did like, I liked the rest of it enough to get me past the quick launch. Although not since 2005. So that's where I am now. Yeah. So I've been on the Incredicoaster now four times. I went on it three times at this event. I went on it twice in a row. And then one at the end of the night

when I was full of food. I just went on the once when we went. And I went on during the day. I've heard it's much better at night, which kind of bugs me, where it's like, well, you're supposed to build an attraction, so it's great no matter when you go on it.

Sure. And the people that said much better at night let's just say better okay let's not say that it is not a revelation at night or anything it's just that the colors are there and i also think that like since it's dark you can't see like the paint that needs to be repainted on the coaster itself uh so yeah so so the queue is all different the queue is incredibles and it's got the cool like retro we feel looks like their house now yeah that stuff all looks very cool and there's a new pre-show and stuff these covers in line that are sort of throwback homages to like the old

funky umbrellas that used to provide shade in tomorrowland uh they could use a few dozen more of these covers throughout the uh area most of your complaints today have been about shade it's just it's it's a very exposed land it's just in the summer it's a heat it's opening on a heat wave late in summer and you're not careful out there you're gonna end up looking exactly like anger too yeah bright red bright red bright red and pissed and pissed about poultry and steam coming out of your ears about a hot dog put some suntan lotion on folks uh so so all of that is fun and and it like seeing the incredibles and credit coaster and a new like fast pass wait time you get like excited like wow cool and incredibles ride like they're excited about a wait time well no i'm just saying that because an effective cue makes

you excited about the the ride and the idea of it and there's original footage in the line with all the actors doing the dialogue i'm just saying it tricks you for a second into thinking it's a bigger wow it's a cool like your brain starts to go wow this feels newish to me this feels like i'm gonna get to you know experience the movie like you would on a new e-ticket incredibles ride there's kind of a there's funny joke in the line there's funny joke at the launch too but in the line what does she say violet says um uh uh oh sure just slap our name on an old ride there is a real wow which is a pretty funny joke i i'm usually hot and cold on sometimes some of the self-awareness that comes with uh that feels like a universal joke quite frankly yeah that's a universal joke it's funny coming

out of like the teen girl like the smart ass teen girl cynic character i think that's great yeah so so they ever everyone knows like the imagineers did their best with the money they had don't get when we when we were cranky about this stuff i'm just saying like everyone knew what the deal was here we they have a little amount of money to do a little something to this ride with this story is that it's like, the town is celebrating the return of the heroes by rechristening this roller coaster with the Incredibles name. That's the plot?

That's the plot. I think that's the plot. Oh, yeah, so spoiler alert, if you don't want to know the story of the Incredicoaster, we'll give you five seconds here to turn off the podcast, go experience the roller coaster, and then come back. Go back and listen to our talk about podcast go experience the roller coaster and then come back go back and

listen to our our talk about the chicken and the ice cream and then well mike i'm sorry a spoiler alert for you too because i am going to mention some of very basic plot points from that's fine that's fine um so yeah so then you get on the coaster and edna mode is watching jack jack like she does in the movie um it's a great great bunch of scenes in the movie edna mode babysitting jack jack uh in the movie it goes well but in the ride jack jack teleports out of there and that's the other funny joke in the like you come or you get in the coaster it starts to leave the station you see into uh the i guess it's the incredibles home and she's like i'll watch the baby don't worry about it and then like right as you're about before you launch she goes and the baby is gone uh uh it's a funny delivery

from brad bird's funny joke and then it's that sets up the launch mr incredible yells dash go after him and then you hear dash's voice countdown and there's a little fun water spray effect after they launch see dash i guess like it would i don't know they can't probably make a robot run on water yet or they maybe they can they just have the money for it so they just have like a little water spray as if he's running up it It's a lot of suggestion on this ride. Yeah. A lot of audio because there's not a lot of room to do. There aren't any robots.

They're all statues. That's true. They're all statues. There's no robots. I think one of the Jack Jacks moves a little. Well, there's a screen for his face in one of the tubes. Is that what it is? So he moves around a little bit because he gets like snotty.

It's like snot all over his head. But it's like a little bit because he gets like snotty it's like it's not all over his head but he is like it's like a little screen uh so yeah it's a lot of a lot of story told with uh narration from the audio on the back of the roller coaster or in your speakers excuse me uh it's yeah every tube basically has a couple static incredibles characters mixed with whatever like the audio is telling you they're doing yeah trying to they're trying to all trying to catch jack jack which is weird in the context of the incredibles 2 because edna makes a special suit for jack jack that makes it easier to keep him under control so is this supposed to take place before incredibles 2 in the narrative. But he's wearing the suit. Oh, I see. He's wearing the same.

That's a whole plot hole. Now, it wasn't a perfect thing. They didn't have the remote. That's a big thing in it, the remote for the suit. But it's like, wait, but Edna's thing is supposed to stop this.

But I guess it's not perfect because he still gets into hijinks in the movie. I don't know. It seems like a big oversight as far as I'm concerned. I haven't seen the movie, but it sounds like they had a big problem on their hands here. They have to rectify.

Take him out of the suit that he gets in the movie, maybe. Maybe that's the fix. Yeah. I mean, I guess it just kind of looks like a red baby onesie anytime. That's true. So they made the tunnels basically longer and maybe not bigger, but longer. Like there were a couple of tunnels before with nothing in them.

Now they've painted them red. Now it's longer just so they can put in a little bit more show. The first one you go up, it's like, there's like purple, I guess, just neon, purple neon that makes it look like laser eyes. Jack Jack's laser eyes. The next one is, I forget what the next one is i forget what the next one is that the elastic girl stretching uh yes and then it's like mr incredible burst through to try to hand a cookie to a jack jack cookie to lure jack and one of them is violet violet

that's probably the best one that's probably the best one because they've made the whole area fire look hot like it'll look like it's fire in the tube and that's fun it's cool um and you're hearing their voices yelling at you which is fun there's a lot of fun stuff on this and the music is the best the music is the is like basically like the score kicks it up a notch um and then there's a fun little scene of statues at the end to sort of sum it all up. But between the last tunnel and the end scene with Edna and Jack-Jack, there's nothing. They need it like another tunnel or two. There's like no extra stuff.

Then it's just a roller coaster playing music. Yeah, there's just like a lot of voice and there's no place, especially when you're going at the end turn, which is like basically a bunch of grass in the center and you're just turning around this like kind of open field. It's been that way for a long time. Yeah, it's weird. I think there's supposed to, that's always, I think been an expansion pad for a ride.

Well, that's different. That's a different one. That's where the Malibu used to be. But isn't, I thought the other one maybe. Really? Because it looks like there's such a small footprint there. Yeah, maybe.

I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. It does look like they were planning something. Something though, right? But you could have built a jack jack

stand, a big jack jack. I said build a giant jack jack and he turns around and tries to grab the coaster or something. But there's no money in this budget for that.

That's obvious. Might have been in a previous past. I'm sure the blue sky had something like that. I just don't, like even the Edna's at the beginning or end, just make them move a little Might have been in a previous past. I'm sure the blue sky had something like that. Like, even the Edna's at the beginning or end, just make them move a little or make the Jack Jack's move.

Like, I don't get it. It's hard because I get it in the tunnel. Like, the roller coaster is going so fast. Yeah. It doesn't make sense to have people, like robots, that can do so much because you're seeing it for a second. Yeah, you don't want them breaking down with the hydraulic fluid and everything. and everything but like you've got a show scene at the beginning and the end like yeah a little more or at least you know what they really should have just just have them blink

just do that screen technology to have them blink or do something or talk it looks good from the frozen yes track that's a lot of so so yeah that is so we look we love robots here we just like them when they move we just want them to move a little bit yeah um and yeah there was probably a way to like put like for instance guardians of the galaxy mission breakout which we have not reviewed officially on here but like that is they did a hell of a job with taking a ride you know very well and truly making it feel different, feeling like a different lobby, a different ride experience. This is just like exactly the same,

but they're fun music now and you get to see a few things here and there, which isn't bad, but it is not nearly like the experience of Guardians of the Galaxy ride. So it's not like it's bad and it's not like the... No, it's fun.

Let me say what you said you said it as if you were anticipating me saying it as soon as we were done with the ride you don't remember this you went well i think it's fun it's pre-defensive you were pre-defensive like i was gonna go well it was fine or whatever but you said that we saw ant-man too it did yes we that's another we'll talk about that in another episode i i did think it was fun but i had a laundry i well it's fun of course it's fun it's a good roller coaster it's definitely an upgrade i think it's an upgrade from california screaming i think you probably have to say yeah it's an upgrade from california screaming it's just that like when you're talking

about like a incredibles ride when you think of the promise of that, you do go like, ah, why can't... And I always wondered if maybe Incredibles was a candidate to be some kind of attraction in Tomorrowland. It's been rumored for years that the Interventions building or whatever the hell, now the Launch Bay, there was going to be some awesome three, excuse me e-ticket incredibles ride i feel like i heard the rumor or maybe just thought uh in my fan brain that the there's pretty cool pods that are like in in the first incredibles uh bob is on this this island right uh that where he ends up meeting syndrome and uh like some cool glass bubbles kind of and that maybe those end up on the people mover yeah maybe i don't i didn't hear that there's a ton of great set pieces in the new incredibles that it's like well that's a ride superhero training i think was thrown around the idea

of like you would go and like probably like an x-men danger room ride you train to be a superhero and you just gotta hope this doesn't negate that's what possibly right i think it might i don't know it might keep it away for a little bit but that's because that that movie of all the pixar movies i think lends itself to an awesome e-ticket ride yeah like there's no nothing with more like fun action colorful bet great score and i think it's doing great at the box right i mean it's nice that's good i saw it three weeks after it opened and the theater was full yeah yeah i mean we are in the middle of a heat wave in los angeles yeah and we'll i'll go see it this week i should have done it people

are about tolerating uncle drew and sicario too because it's so hot um but still yes incredibles 2 is wonderful um yeah i think that's my here's my feeling about this whole thing sure do pixar pier absolutely and yet for another year at disneyland tomorrowland decays tomorrowland gets worse and worse. They somehow found a way to make Pizza Port more unpleasant. They put a cloth sign over it. That's for pizza. This used to be. Scott, what is it part of? What is the cloth sign part of?

Oh, boy. Pixar Fest? Yes. It's part of Pixar Fest. It's a celebrating friendship and beyond. I don't know if you heard. Okay. Why don't they call it the Pixar Pal pal party and then it's we keep it

all peas i just do yeah do your pixar peer but for the love of god do we see tomorrowland change in our lifetimes does this happen i don't know i'm i think i think i will be on my deathbed and and wondering why it never that's still going to be the fucking rocket that serves coke it's going to be the it's going to be interventions with ads for dyson air blades like it's like i i this it makes me this is why i'm of course do your gentrification anywhere you want across this property but are we really going to let tomorrow land just languish and languish? I get it. They wanted to do something cheap that they could do in the other park that would draw people over there. And they wanted to use characters that everyone knows. So I get it from a cynical marketing perspective.

This was probably the thing they had to do. Something along these lines. I think they should have put in another $500 million into it. They call it synergy, darling. That's a joke from the queue line, too. It makes a joke about the overlay. That is more Universal-style, edgy, referential comedy. That's fun.

I don't know. I like that. I actually like that. I liked it a lot. I wasn't wild about it in The Last Jedi when Finn, when uh uh thin what does he yell oh they hate that that like the tie fighters uh or something there's an invite uh so um but yeah well you know the public is kind of not exactly hot on the future right now people are feeling a little hopeless you know in terms of tomorrowland getting redone But I tell you what you will have to look forward to.

The Inside Out Emotional Whirlwind coming soon. That's coming to Pixar Pier. That is a reskin. That's for Flixar times. They are just repainting Flix Flyers from Bugs Land. There's Jesse's Critter Carousel. That's the old carousel. They are repainting it.

Uh, that is not open yet. And, uh, Bing Bong's candy store, which they is opening sometime in this month of July. So we're going to have to air grievances about all those things in a future episode.

Pixar Pier part two. Pixar Pier complaint fest part two. Bing Bong's candy store has a sign. Like it has a bunch of his quotes on the sign i saw a picture and one of them says i cry candy and that's yeah that's a fun little piece of the movie but i don't know to me it seemed very weird to see the word cry in big letters at a disney park like i thought that was kind of like i like it's edgy i think i think that that's a good idea like it's fun and you can buy his candy tears supposedly you can buy his tears at the store which is weird

yep which but i like i like that so get loaded up on eat his tears get loaded up on bing bong tears and then poultry and hit that concrete the candy doesn't melt, gosh, he thought he was leaving the flames of hell, and now he's coming to Southern California. Biggest heat wave in ages. It seemed like at one point there was going to be a leg two of Pixar Pier, presumably Paradise Gardens Park. Right, and they rethemed Goofy Sky School

for the fifth time to the up- The good dinosaur's crazy antics. As long as they preserve that perfect state fair ride within yeah then we're we're fine but then like silly symphony swings like that's mickey will that go away because like that's a cool theme i think actually uh paradise gardens park michael oh no but i'm saying when they free of the need to rethink when they go around so yeah so so there's more pixar pier may be coming also i have a feeling there's not more pixar i feel like this is it some nice things i like i like they have a guy sketching pixar characters in the

in knickknack and knicks knacks i didn't know that's fun that's nice some of the merchandise is very good i like the sign a lot i think this is funny that we complained for like 95 minutes and i'm going to give two minutes of kudos. The sign I think is cool. I like the color scheme. I like it's big. It's nice. It looks nice at night. The billboards are cute. The billboards are cute.

I like the sort of color scheme. I think that's fun. I think it looks cool at night. I think a lot of it is an upgrade. It's just like it doesn't everything isn't cohesive yet they are still repainting things i think once maybe they get more money everything's open i think all of it you'll go well this is certainly you know what was maybe a b b minus land now it's b or b plus like it's it's an incremental change and this area has grown slowly from orange peels and

and just straight up knots rides into at least it you know it got more charm with midway mania it has more charm with uh yeah which is still great carnival barker potato head well that's a great ride and they repainted the roof there. Good. That's fun. I think they added fast pass. They did add fast pass to it. That is a thing that I think like, oh, yeah, this needed fast pass. And they have Edna Mode walk around character now, which is great.

That looks great. Here's what we took a photo. Lindsay and I took a photo with her. What I do think is unnerving is that she is human hands. It's a plastic head, but human hands. So she comes up. And when you go to see the character she shakes your hand and i go like i like i didn't say it but like my brain was like oh real skin like i just give her a mane of hair on the back of it give her gloves please give her those yeah so cut for budget. So Edna modes, gloves,

better dogs, better milk choice, milk offerings. And to check the lanyard again. Yeah. Give Edna hands, better milk offerings. And just call it Mickey's fun.

What in the world? Yeah. Pixar, Pixar, circle of pals algorithm named that right yeah it's our pal around pal around it is all your pals and they are going around together i've never i've never been i had never been on the mickey's fun wheel and we didn't have time to go on the pal around i have still not been on the pixar pal around i will go on

and everyone says the you like it i know i like it i've never been on it and the moving cars uh but it's a ferris wheel they've never figured out how to quickly load and unload a ferris wheel it's just not possible and there should be two robots in every car yeah because if you're now the pixar like you should sit next to one and you're so like you sit with up or uh the old man and then the other oh i thought you meant of like pixar like you just sit next to a pete doctor animatronic and he doesn't talk he's just trying to research mark davis stuff for that book that's fair those should all be like you all the cars should be cubicles and you have uh eight shots to get done that day oh cool i got the cereal bar one you just get notes uh yes the uh yeah the nota coaster the nota wheel uh-huh so um i yeah we've

we've been plussing up as we go i think here you know we plus the buns up so we don't have to do i hope and they're gonna keep they're obviously working. I saw a nice Q&A with the Imagineers and they were, they were talking, all the things they were showing in the reference art was very cool and they very much care about it and they're still working on a lot of it. So this is a work in progress, you know, it's, it's, it's fun, but it's, it's, it's a bummer because we, from Disney, you want like some insane, amazing thing that right out of the gate is great. And this one just feels like it's a work in progress. Well, Pixar Pier will never be complete until the tape is removed from the pipes on the roof.

That is actually probably a teaser for a new short of like taping the pipe or something. It's an Easter egg. You know how they love their Easterter eggs they're a113s uh you know i did this is really damning it with fake praise but i'm happy it gave a reason to reopen the blue sky cellar the little uh making of behind the scenes walk through uh by the winery that's still holding on i love walking through there still holding on let's not have any shit talk in the winery that's scott's favorite place in all the parks that's correct you know what it's it it does look lovely and uh it's always crowded yeah i've never been able to successfully eat at

the balcony the little tapas place they have upstairs i have it's wonderful many relaxing hours we all went there once yeah there's they just tell you there's no seats that one there's nowhere to have a line that would i feel like they just tell you yeah we're full up we got it we have to wrap this episode up before i before we suggesting that plus ups need to happen at the beloved winery we really i won't have it. We haven't even thrown out that we'll do a full episode on there, but of course we have to.

Let's do it from there. Let's get a couple bottles. Yeah, that's a good idea. So stay tuned for that winery review episode. That's live. And until then. I got something to say in my collider. Bring back Robert Mondavi.

Get J. Pick over here. Get him over here. I want more Disney-specific brands of winery. I've got Ithaca alumni privileges to bother Bob Iger. I wonder how much I could find in the alumni directory. The last thing I would say is that Blue Sky Cellar, we were talking about the button on Space Mountain many episodes ago. You can press the button, a fake button,

to launch the Pixar Pier Incredicoaster model. Yeah, that's fun. There's a facsimile of controls. Yes, and it shows you how you would launch the coaster if you worked there. It's really, I guess, just training you to take a minimum wage job. But I was very excited because of what we were saying about the Space Mountain button. Well, giving you good practice for your old button finger. For when Disney has taken over the whole state, everything's a theme park, and we're all working there.

Yeah, and when they've lured us, first through promises of free spicy hot dogs and then through slate employment opportunities. We'll be there soon. We know that's where it's heading. Hey, folks, you survived Podcast The Ride. Thanks for listening to us air these grievances. And if you want to hear more or give more, you can head to our twitter at podcast the ride

head to our instagram uh head to the facebook group rate and review us on itunes if you have specific requests for the winery episode or a minimum amount of ounces that you would like each of us to drink what is the number what is a traditional pour for a glass of wine? Is that four ounces, six ounces? Probably, I see them on the menu in sixes and nines.

Okay. Yeah. We're getting up to, we're getting up to 36. You know, Mike knows this, wine makes me crazy. Oh,

well, then this episode is necessary. What if we do it, they probably won't let us record there, but what if we record in the car immediately we all jam into a car the closest or get a hotel room that's the idea

before going to the parks we like pull out a zoom recorder in one of our uh reasonably uh sedans one reasonably sized sedans i think we can just we can just take a recorder in put it on the table yeah do it just let the conversation fly yeah and the audio is not gonna be as good as this but whatever watch out watch out shape pick we're going there it's still better than the bumper car boys audio on their podcast let's be honest yeah go rate and review them on itunes and yeah get sync them sync them for us thanks listeners uh all right we'll catch you next time so long bye