Podcast: The Ride - Planet Hollywood with Pat Cassels

Episode Date: February 11, 2022

Celebruary continues as Pat Cassels (Full Frontal with Samantha Bee, College Humor) joins us to discuss the meteoric rise and fall of Planet Hollywood. Alan Hale’s Lobster Barrel episode up at The ...Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Forever! Dog! York telephone number. Pat Castles joins Mike, Scott, and Jason here on Podcast The Ride Presents Celebruary, a month-long celebration of celebrity-owned restaurants. I'm Scott Gairdner, and I just want to let you guys know right away, I feel like maybe there is some kind of celebratory curse that has befallen myself that has previously befallen you guys because for once i am the one who is dealing with big stomach issues i don't know what happened to me and i think maybe i think i think it could be because of what we're doing because we are talking about so many uh insane bad restaurants this this may be prime among them uh for further thoughts let me go
Starting point is 00:01:26 to last episode stomach issue haver jason sheridan i scott it's i am on the exact opposite footing now i feel uh i feel great oh good i have since had taco bell again and felt uh perfect felt fine and i could not be more excited for today's topic. One of my rider dies and I know I'm going to be alone in that respect. Oh, hang on. Well, now let me, now I'm referring to the food only,
Starting point is 00:01:55 but I'll take that. I'm going to go to bat for some of that too. For the food too, no kidding. Not all of it, but some of it. I'm excited to hear but let me let me second you in the ride or die for this topic i i am thrilled uh i'm not sure i've had so many tabs to pull open we see how many we'll see how many we'll get through uh but let me check in on excitement level and stomach health level with mike carlson uh hi i'm here and yes my well my
Starting point is 00:02:23 stomach is fine i feel like it's been better. I feel like I needed a lot more sleep yesterday. I played tennis yesterday. And as an older man. It's still tennis in 2022. I'm back to playing. I took a couple months off because of my Achilles tendons. But it was a feel.
Starting point is 00:02:37 But now my shins seem to be sore. But I feel like the tiredness is affecting my whole body. So my stomach, I would say, is medium. It's fine. It's not bad. But it's not like it was a little gurgly after i had some lunch so it's not perfect um but yeah i would think after looking at pictures of all these menus i'm a big uh psychosomatic illness i believe that happens a lot with people so scott i think if you're seeing all of these pictures of blue drinks like i know know you don't, you specifically like blue drinks,
Starting point is 00:03:05 I feel like makes your stomach turn. So I feel like perhaps it's now been just sort of like your brain is now playing tricks on you as if it's digesting one of these delicious, sugary, alcoholic beverages. And you're almost going through, you're having a phantom digestion. I think that might be it.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yeah. Yeah. And which could have something to do with looking at the exteriors or interiors of these restaurants now let that again i'm not these are not bad things necessarily again i'm thrilled to be talking about all of it because today is planet hollywood it's the big dog it's the uh in a month of celebrity-owned restaurants, it is the biggest restaurant owned by the most celebrities. Sort of, I guess. To varying percentage degrees.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And we've got a great guest joining us from a city that is home to one of the few remaining Planet Hollywoods in the world slash the country. You're very lucky. So we need to know what that's like i'm talking about new york city and the guest i'm talking about is a emmy-winning writer for full frontal with samantha b and a before that a long time writer performer for college humor it's pat castles hi pat hello thanks for having me absolutely yeah i didn't know until you told me i didn't realize that i did not know there were so few lefts in in on the planet on our planets and i want to break the bad news to everyone that there is uh recently seemingly one less left that very time square location what i looked at yeah i did yeah wow wait wait so i'm wrong so there isn't one
Starting point is 00:04:40 in your temporarily is it closed okay it's temporarily closed but the phone is also disconnected i called uh you called them i called because i had heard a podcast i had heard on on the podcast what a time to be alive they casually mentioned the times square play of hollywood being closed and then there was a massive uh article about playing hollywood from not too long ago in esquire where they're talking about playing hollywood during the pandemic in new york doing takeout but it's seemingly not open now and it's not on the website at the moment it's not on the official website it's off the planet hollywood website oh oh that's good man i was there i went there pretty close to like beginning of pandemic weirdly enough just like it's probably like one of the last restaurants i went there pretty close to like beginning of pandemic weirdly enough just like it's probably like one of the last restaurants i went to before march 2020 wow so you could have
Starting point is 00:05:33 been one of the last ever this you might have been one of the final diners but maybe i don't know wow it was open then but yeah the yeah google says temporarily closed but i don't know maybe it's uh it certainly doesn't seem times square seems like a lot of turnover happens there yeah yeah and being that it's all like the the property values there have to be crazy and i feel like even i think during pandemic like the whatever the landlord was sued this location for not paying okay okay sure it's one of those casual five million dollars in back rent this is gonna that's gonna be a frequently said stat i think throughout this month there's
Starting point is 00:06:12 a lot of that um i well then well why don't why don't we start there but i mean we can dive into your feelings about the place and any history you have pat but like what's give me the latest what was it like as close to the pandemic and possibly the closing uh as it could have been um well we i normally go to those restaurants in times square like anytime i see i don't see that many like theatrical like plays or musicals nor do i go to msg that much but so when i do though i always try and pair it with a outing to some kind of time square restaurant just because it's like i'm here i'll never be here you know i'm here once a year time square and so i think we were seeing
Starting point is 00:06:57 no we were seeing beetlejuice the musical oh great what an evil juice musical and we were like let's just go here i mean see it was it was pretty empty it was quite empty uh there was a dude there working like on a laptop like in the corner which is kind of a bad sign for like a fun restaurants and like a family fun like it's supposed to be every table's crawling with birthdays and celebrations yeah it was definitely not at its best it was like definitely not full but i'm not sure when the last time it was full ever i'm not really sure yeah maybe opening night and that was it right well they have mostly celebrities are there they have 14 different hollywood stars there right right yes yeah these
Starting point is 00:07:41 well i think they all started strong and then it's a slow diminishing. This already, that location, the New York one currently, or maybe not currently, is like a downsize already. That isn't the original one. The original New York restaurant was the first Planet Hollywood ever, and it moved to a smaller one, still in Times Square, but that's kind of like a duplex, a sublet, I don't know what you want to call it, with Buka to Beppo. Like you enter this weird little alleyway, and then you go one direction, I think, for Buka, and the other way for Planet Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:08:14 So it's already sharing the space, and we're like cramming the props together much more so than it used to be. And you don't know which way is which. It's kind of like a mystery. Like it's a coin toss. Yeah, they keep it deliberately confusing i will say though the uh like as empty as it was though it's still like all the props that were there when they stopped being popular are still there so it still has
Starting point is 00:08:36 that you you were saying earlier the ambiance is like food notwithstanding the ambiance rules and like if you're like i am i assume you guys are like a really big fan of like mid 90s hollywood it's like the perfect museum i'm sure we'll get into all this and like what's actually there and stuff like that but it was yeah so for me it was just like a great museum to walk around and be like oh it's this it's that it's whatever yeah yeah did what did anything stand out do you recall anything from uh from the real big one was we were eating on like literally we looked up we were eating lots of you know they're like probably 17 terminator things is like the first thing you
Starting point is 00:09:16 say yes um we realized halfway through we were eating under there's a lot of ceiling stuff obviously for there if you look up there's a lot of like the bus from Speed is like literally hanging above you. But it was my favorite thing was Dorothy from Twister. You know, Dorothy. Oh, the like the machine with the ping pong balls? Wow. Geez.
Starting point is 00:09:38 The Dorothy. The full Dorothy, you're saying. Because Dorothy, okay, remind me, Dorothy is the machine, but there has the little like balls. Yeah, exactly. i'm not sure the balls were in there though okay because i really the balls for me would be the big draw that's killer yeah as far as dorothy's concerned those are in the multi-location the little perfect right right at the end yeah yeah they would spin inside the tub this i can't confirm the presence of uh the little individual things in there okay well jason will get on the phone again hopefully if, if they reopen. I mean, I kept trying.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I kept looking. There weren't a lot of reviews recently. You know, then lots of information about the Malta one on the website. The newest one opened in 2019. Members of the family. Malta? Malta, yes.
Starting point is 00:10:19 The small island of Malta. Yeah, new. Before that, the Los Angeles international uh terminal at lax but but these the thing with these is it's not the it's not the trash it's not the like the like the room with too much going on and props exploding off of every wall and like big kooky sunglasses in the bathroom and that kind of thing i think like the the new vibe is like the vibe of everything in the in the 2000s and 2010s very sleepy and just kind of sleek and like like the vegas one was another move where it was a big crazy trashy one and now it's like a
Starting point is 00:10:59 much smaller it does feel like an airport restaurant so i don't like this that's happened to the brand yeah i i remember being at caesar's in college and going like oh my god there's a planet hollywood and watching them watching like in the middle of all these expensive shops as they just dropped a planet hollywood and then watching the walkthrough like in the opening it's like oh my god it's across from a brookstone and down the way from a warner brothers store this is the most 90s time capsule footage i've ever seen do the new ones have like legitimate hollywood props in them like the way the old ones do not yeah not a lot i mean i i excitedly texted my girlfriend like there's still one in vague the one in caesars it moved
Starting point is 00:11:45 it's still there it's at the top of the spiral escalator at the forum shops um and it seems like they have a few but the one in lax does not appear to be direct uh decorated at all yeah it's just like primary colors it's really boy it looks like a weird like a office lobby it's it's it's so boring about the 90s movie primary colors now scott that would be a big get if they had some primary colors i bet you i'm sure one of them has like you know john travolta's blazer or the wig the wig anywhere the white wig i think he's died i assume he died his hair white but it could be wrong died probably could have been real hair yeah yeah i don't know much about that president kind of my favorite
Starting point is 00:12:26 props there are like not the terminator skeletons it's like the really random forgotten movies there's a there's a great i think it was on air jason you probably heard the story a million times there's an unaired ucb show sketch um that walsh and besser did um where they did a prank and it was at a planet hollywood and basically what the gist of it did where they did a prank and it was at a planet Hollywood. And basically what the gist of it was, is they made a giant fake glove that looked like maybe like a Mad Max, like spikes road warrior. And they,
Starting point is 00:12:55 they snuck it into the restaurant. And all of a sudden, like when they made sure no waiter was looking, they just dropped it on the table and pretended one, it fell on one of them. And like, I forget if there was fake blood or not, but it was like Walsh or Besser was just like, ah, this fell. So all of a sudden people were freaking out,
Starting point is 00:13:13 running over to them, worried about getting sued or whatever. I forget if Besser or Walsh was like, we kept asking over and over again, oh, what movie is this from? What movie is this? I don't even know what movie this is from but then i guess somebody found out and they could never they never got the rights to air the the prank or anything i mean like to go there it is a very ceiling
Starting point is 00:13:35 the ceiling is just filled with stuff in that place it's like everything's hanging from another thing that the new york one was the independent all the little miniatures from independence day like the spaceships and stuff are there wow yes it seems like a high high probability of of a prop falling on you and a nude a semi nude is it was it stallone like a mannequin like a body double of a mannequin of like stallone and a speedo from i don't know if it was demolition man or something oh because he's naked in demolition man because he's in the when he gets frozen he's naked he gets frozen it's a cryogenic tube i think he in the movie i assume he's just naked but they in the restaurants they had to put
Starting point is 00:14:15 in like black fabric to cover up the crotch zone and one thing this was one where i was i kept thinking like i feel like i've seen that at every one of them. And I was looking around other comments, places that said, yeah, I've seen this at every one. I think this is one of the mass produced, every single planet Hollywood had the naked, which you could eat. A family could eat directly under a tube with Stallone naked and been weird fluid. You could have your meal there. I have, maybe more than once wow are you
Starting point is 00:14:47 saying am i naive i are you saying like they reproduce the stuff some of them because i also i remember always thinking that's okay it's a little heartbreaking but it's fine i mean i don't think all of it but at least that one feels like it was everywhere and don't you guys feel like i don't know we can get into which planet hollywood's people have been to but i feel like even as a kid i was like there boy there was a lot of a lot of terminator robots seems like there are enough to go around i get judge dread too i would say i feel like there were a ton of judge dread suits they may have needed them for the movie but that yeah that naked stallone tub i don't i don't have a good feeling about that yeah yeah yeah i think this is uh uh just in case yeah i have a photo of it here uh i'm assuming this is the one you guys
Starting point is 00:15:32 are talking about oh that's it that's maybe a worse photo than i had seen that's a particularly odd he's like he's really straining yeah yeah so he's i just want to yeah sketch this out for the listener imagine like a slightly taller baby pool that is clear and you can see through the sides and it is no water in it and there is a pretty realistic wax figure of a naked sylvester stallone with just uh like maybe a sock covering his penis a black it looks like half of a thong yeah he looks like he of a thong. Yeah, he looks like he was maybe like there was some sort of a, like he was killed in the middle of a pose.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Somehow, like he got shot by like a death ray and it froze him in this position. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, like you're seeing the last moment of his life as he was like panicked, naked with a sock covering his genitals. I also believe he's in this plexiglass bowl.
Starting point is 00:16:25 If you pay enough, they will fill that with liquor and you can drink it like a scorpion bowl. It's the most expensive thing you can get at Planet Hollywood. Yeah, bachelorette parties can get it. It's a big package, part of the package. They can actually get in
Starting point is 00:16:42 the pool with him. Drink it out. Yeah, drink it out off of his butt. Bachelor parties can pay and they don't get a drink. They just get to borrow the casual slacks from the hangover, which I saw the New York location.
Starting point is 00:16:59 There was a video walkthrough from a few years ago and it's like, wow, they have all the casual wear from The Hangover. Like, all the main guys, all their polos and Oxford shirts and khaki slacks. Wow, okay. Now, does that include the baby Bjorn that Alan has? It just seemed like they had the busy graphic tee he wore.
Starting point is 00:17:21 It was hard to tell. I don't think it had the baby Bjorn. Wow. I love this. fft he wore i i it was hard to tell i don't think it had the baby bjorn wow are you there i love the least so the the only actual notable piece of wardrobe from that movie they don't have just like yeah just the business casual clothes but they have those that's true they do have the clothes they have ed helms's polo the plain shoes they wore the whole they're all the notable wardrobe i i there's gonna be a lot of screen sharing happening here and i i would like to share a little because i i got to go to the new york location a little bit uh a little further in time which was um
Starting point is 00:17:59 for my this was in may 2019 and my wife and I were celebrating our fifth wedding anniversary, and we did so in New York City. I don't look... It would be kind of on brand to say that we did the dinner at Planet Hollywood, but I'm not that bad of a husband. We were on our way to the good dinner that we got, and walking towards it like, Yeah, but we should do... Oh, yes, yeah. Sorry, sorry. dinner that we got and i went like walking towards it like oh yes yeah might if we go the other way on the stairs real quick um no it seemed so like oh what a good way to kick it off would be with
Starting point is 00:18:37 with champagne from the planet hollywood bar uh so really quick here's do i have too many tabs open where i can't even it's not even showing me the the eye photo yeah possibly uh well like oh here we go uh it was minimized so here's some some memories uh uh my wife and i amped like super thrilled to be there yeah um and strolling behind you was the uh the, the like walk of fame, but on the wall. Oh yes. That's not because the other, the way there's a thing to point out a decor wise is that they've always had
Starting point is 00:19:13 hands and cement all law, the Chinese theater in Hollywood, but they put them up, they put them up on the wall and they, and they kind of put them diagonal and that's their, their twist. But in this case, the the like to get it super current and or futuristic they're like led what do you they're they're like uh not even hologram those aren't as cool as hologram i don't know but technically yeah it's celebrity handprints back there i don't know who of who this point at this
Starting point is 00:19:45 point like do they really does anyone know planet hollywood favors today i forget i i mean we took a photo and my friends and i last time we were there we took a photo in front of that thing and i can't remember i mean it's probably like you know it's the usual suspects of like schwarzenegger stallone willis julie roberts maybe yeah yeah melanie griffith yeah exactly right i'm trying to get who's like a who was a rising star then that is no longer like uh i don't know i think palminteri casper van deen yeah laurie petty tank girl john claude van damme and a lot of the openings laurie petty rosanna and sinbad at the openings. Lori Petty. Roseanne and Sinbad. The TV special for the Beverly Hills.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Planet Hollywood comes home. Oh, yes, of course. A fine piece of primetime programming. So here's some other favorites. Here's us strolling the, not the red carpet. It's kind of red carpet. It's the red zebra carpet. And it's also the red, it's the red zebra carpet and it's also the red the dirty
Starting point is 00:20:47 red zebra carpets this is pretty ghastly the entire staircase up is done in this pattern and boy is it walked on boy is it movie theater style but that's what you want, right? That's the actual carpet from Monkeybone. Sorry, I'm not showing your six. Remember that was a big zigzaggy, like, this is the kind of carpet that Chris Kattan or whoever would have in their house. It's the dirty carpet from Monkeybone. Well, then I shouldn't have walked on it at all. I wish they told me I would have put a sidestep.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah, you should have kissed the carpet. Thanks for your service, carpet. But then props what was stuff that i liked i'm gonna go in order of uh impressiveness i'm of course of course wonderful to see a gray sports almanac from my favorite movie back to the future too who knows how many of those there are say these are a dime a dozen they're they a dime a dozen, but I'm hoping I can trust them on it. We got Foxy Cleopatra's wardrobe from Goldmember, Rastavaris 3. I mean, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:21:52 That is great. That kind of gives you a sense of when they stopped updating. That feels current in Planet Hollywood world. This is 2003 or so. Also, the only place in the world that's like, we have Beyonce's wardrobe. No, not from one of her concerts. From Goldmember. From Goldmember.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Well, it's an important movie from New York because the summer of 2002, we were finally able to laugh again. Jason 9-11 context, sure. Thanks to Mike Myers and his beloved character, Goldmember. It's almost like the guy from Planet Hollywood's's like wait she's a musician too someone told a hard rock um so what else we got well i mean this this also feels current and this is seeing a big 98 godzilla head and elsewhere from the emmerich devlin universe i think i see some of those independence day things back there pat you're mentioning oh yeah you're right you're right sorry i didn't
Starting point is 00:22:50 jump on that sorry no no no um we got a we got a tool time hammer oh wow tool time hammer this is like you know thor has a hammer and richard karn this is richard karn's hammer magic hammer right and it's more important to me than thor's hammer yeah when and and when everyone cheered when tim allen got to pick up the hammer that's right that was a big we remember that like captain america yeah i didn't realize they had tv memorabilia i thought it was just movies i guess a little bit yeah primarily movie i'm trying to think if there's any other well you know what i know they used to have um and i think this might this might actually now this might have moved and it now is in the the studio or the office where they make the show but i know that when i was a kid i was a gog because they had the original weekend update sign from saturday night
Starting point is 00:23:41 live like the chevy chase it was up what was up on the wall behind i think maybe now that's now back in the offices but that's a legit cool one and for a little comedy dork me at 13 oh my god the chevy chase sign yeah that's i i will say i did go to planet hollywood as a child but i don't really remember anything and feel like i wasn't like they didn't have anything batman in there that was going to impress me and whatever the year was did they not that feels like like a given that batman returns i wonder yeah well but and did you come across a fact mike that they hired the production designer from the tim burton batman no i didn't to design
Starting point is 00:24:22 the times square and that's why there's all seemingly why there's all these girders and bent metal and stuff and as i always was like this is like gotham like there's a little bit of batman in this design in between the multi-colored zebra prints and the giant uh collages and circular uh screens just is more like Batman villain, I guess. It's a clash of hero and villain within the restaurant. That would have been like Spice's carpet in Batman Forever. Debbie Mazur's Spice character.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Oh, of course. Right, that's the Two-Face had two girlfriends? Yes, Drew Barrymore was Sugar and Debbie Mazur was Spice. She would have had an animal print carpet I imagine it does seem like Planet Hollywood is the only place in the world that specifically
Starting point is 00:25:09 like it's not into it's kind of it was too early for the Chris Nolan Batman's and it was too late for like the Tim Burton Batman so it kind of only likes those like Joel Schumacher Batman's right do they have like the old Batman?
Starting point is 00:25:27 Do they have like Keaton's Batman suit there? They've got to have some remnants of that. I don't know. Like 95, 96 is that Schumacher era where they, they were when, you know, planet Hollywood could get whatever they wanted.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Yeah. That's perfect timing. Yes. Well, they're aesthetically so much like the schumacher like the like so busy and multiple levels and lights flashing and that's what joel schumacher's brain looks like yes he should have joel schumacher should have been a day one planet hollywood guy oh yeah he should have gotten some some ponzi scheme shares um yes uh so i have a quote uh the name is anton first
Starting point is 00:26:07 he was a set designer behind tim burton's batman and uh the quote uh from him in the esquire article his mandate first told esquire in 1991 was to quick was to create a fun place for the Jeans Brigade. Not upmarket or smart. Huh? That's pretty condescending. I think that's like, you know, the hoi polloi. You know, the common man. Oh, wow. Interesting. Because they wear blue jeans?
Starting point is 00:26:37 I guess that's what. I had never heard the phrase Jeans Brigade to refer to, like, the middle class. Wow. Interesting. This guy only did the first batman yes because it's a very sad story because he like got weird issues prevented him from working on returns and that bummed him out and then he tried to he was going to direct a nightmarish sounding michael jackson movie called midnight with a k um and where's the k i guess before the n
Starting point is 00:27:09 it's not hiding somewhere you wouldn't expect uh who knows the eye for it's actually instead of the eye it's a k it makes no sense big big nikite is an experimental title um no so he like i think he took this planet hollywood job because his like other projects weren't taken off and then he did it and was like battling some crazy demons and a month after the opening of the first planet hollywood he threw himself off of a building and killed himself it's really crazy and a bummer to bring up and i don't want to be disrespectful to this this death that occurred but what i found this this i think where i really got fascinated with planet hollywood as an adult was i was on my way i knew i was going to see one at uh at disneyland paris where there still is one and i
Starting point is 00:27:55 was reading old articles like god that's crazy they still have a really locked in time planet hollywood and this article that i read from los ang Angeles Magazine almost implied that the decor was so bizarre and depressing that it like that he like it like impacted the person getting depressed and committing suicide. That seems like impossible. That seems like a major jump for the writer of this article. Because conversely, like the Orlando and Vegas ones would go on to become the highest grossing restaurants in the country like it was very successful insanely popular and like filled with celebrities for a long time before they i guess over expand it and then their revenue dropped like an insane amount it went from like 12 million in one year to 4 million the next like fiscal
Starting point is 00:28:46 quarter like it was an insane drop i i agree i guess the only way it could even it's depressing is that it is kind of like a norma desmond house where it's just like literally you're reliving your old hollywood memories like it's a museum of like hollywood's faded past yeah rumbling remains of what we now know is like a business that's like in peril in certain ways but i think jason's right though i mean it seems like back then it certainly would have been i mean i'm sure we'll get into this but like it seems like for at least a week it was like the coolest place in the world hi my my memories of it is my family was like all in if we we went to the orlando one a number of times uh if we went to a city we and there was a plate of hollywood near where we were we were probably gonna eat i ate at the washington dc one i've been to time
Starting point is 00:29:40 square twice uh and uh we always had a nice time. We were all very fond of the Captain Crunch chicken. Well, let's stop here. Let's pause here for a minute. You're going to make Scott's stomach worse. Yeah, I don't want to get ahead because I have more food. I'm saying let's stop here because I have to go to the bathroom. Everybody hold tight for 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Sure. To vomit because of that chicken description. Just hearing the title of it. So, yeah, food-wise, I was trying to remember what even they had. And it seems like it's kind of generic. It's burger sandwiches, pastas, kind of whatever. And I don't know that a lot of the food jumped out and was like even the reason to go but i do i do remember it being a little notorious from articles and press at the time
Starting point is 00:30:32 that they had chicken that was fried and coated in a batter that was comprised of captain crunch um jason had it anybody else have it no i did not but i've had other versions i've had like some other places i've had like versions of it and it never it's never satisfying to me corn flake chicken i think is a lot more common yes it sounds all right that makes sense how is the how is the captain crunch chicken i mean i was a kid and i liked anything sweet and so i think we were all very amused by the novelty of it i think they also lost the license to say captain crunch pretty quickly because eventually it just became like sweet crunch chicken or it's still on the menu um it was so bad it was like the the flavor of this besmirches the good name of captain crunch yeah uh now now
Starting point is 00:31:27 they have an appetizer sampler that is served on a little metal wire ferris wheel okay dude i was gonna bring this up yeah what i i was delighted by that it's like a vertical lazy susan yeah whoa i'm picturing this what do you what do you google to find like uh explain it to us or find a photo uh yeah let me find a photo uh yeah keep talking it's like a circular thing and they would put it like so i just don't know it was like a ferris wheel it was like a little like you they put on the table it had like seven or eight baskets in a like around the wheel and each one had a different appetizer so it was just to keep to expand the amount of space a table could have because it would i think so and also like if you're and like a lazy susan it's oh there we go the appetizer wheel the appetizer wheel okay i love
Starting point is 00:32:17 this yeah this is pretty good i can't debate on this yeah i'm so i'm so happy that this is like proprietary to planet hollywood because i thought you guys would have already encountered these before yeah i don't know i'm trying to think of the i've had big i've had a three-tiered like appetizer platter before and i'm trying to remember where that was but i don't ever think it's come in the form of a theme park ride like my appetizers have never come on a ride that's a big deal well yeah a ride mechanism that is a bunch of dumb appetizer this is pretty this is way up around film reel is that possible potentially yeah very yes if not that's a wasted opportunity definitely
Starting point is 00:33:01 yeah maybe but it's i think i feel like they could have done a better job of making the outside look like a film canister. Yeah, I think I'm wrong. I was just guessing. I don't know that you're wrong, though. I just think maybe they were like, well, here's the deal. All of these existed before, and we can just buy up a bunch of them. We don't need to make a bunch of film. It's possible they cheaped out on an idea, so I'm not totally discounting what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I wonder how they describe it in the menu. That would the way to yeah good it's called a i think it's called a high roller sampler yeah i am also seeing the phrase high roller sampler correct yes okay okay it's not film it's not film it's like just a different theme like vegas like why are they going in a different direction like not even trying to make it sound like Hollywood. Did it debut at one of the places that has a casino nearby? It, well, I saw it also. I saw it a second place because this is okay.
Starting point is 00:33:54 This is a confusing thing about planet Hollywood's presence in modern day, Las Vegas. The planet Hollywood restaurant is in Caesars. The planet Hollywood casino has a restaurant called cafe Hollywood. That also has the Ferris wheel sampler uh and right a little bit of the similar theming but i don't think they could call it planet hollywood because there's one of those in caesars and they didn't want to cannibalize uh their own business cafe hollywood is not planet hollywood no but it was in planet hollywood it was the original name it was a name they were batting around before they
Starting point is 00:34:32 hit on planet hollywood high roller yeah this is i'm really uh i'm stuck on this boy it's an amazing wheel but it's called the high roller and it's served at a restaurant that's hollywood themed i just i guess i guess hollywood people are high roll i'm sure high rollers these guys have gambling problems so maybe it makes sense that's true yeah the ferris wheel in las vegas the big observation wheel in the middle of the las vegas strip is also called the high roller okay all right so there you go yeah i guess there's a roll i guess it roll it doesn't really roll. A Ferris wheel, though, doesn't really roll. Rolling indicates that the thing would actually touch the ground.
Starting point is 00:35:10 It spins. Roll would be bad. Roll is an accident and it's come off of its axis and it's crushing people. Do you mean... Are you all trying to tell me that Planet Hollywood may not have thought something through
Starting point is 00:35:25 well i guess well if we're talking about food are we now talking about the actual food now or now i can yeah yeah yeah yeah well i guess my question is off this you guys have probably done more research than i have is are any of the dishes like hollywood themed like or is there like the schwarzenegger burger or like the joe piscopo fries or something you know that's where one of the breakdowns seem to happen because in reading about the development of the place uh bruce willis was all about the cocktail menu sylvester stallone kept making comments about wishing the food could just be in pill form because he just cares about getting protein and working out well he doesn't like eating he gets tired of chewing he gets tired he wishes all food was pill that's that's his
Starting point is 00:36:16 pitch for the world is that food is all he's coming out demolition and like taco bell is nothing but like goo on a plate that's right yeah Really made him think. Schwarzenegger really wanted, I believe it was his mother or his grandmother's strudel. And that seems easy to make in bulk. But I don't remember any of that. Who wants that? Who wants strudel at this place? Jason probably would like strudel. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I absolutely would like. That's a pretty easy dessert. That's a pretty easy. So did he not get his way in his mom's strudel was not at Planet Hollywood. He said that's a shocker. Yeah, you get that done. I don't think he remembered saying that. I don't know that any of them remembered saying any of this.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Well, the pill form I saw, I saw an interview where Sylvester Stallone would made it made a joke like, I don't like to eat. I don't like eat it. I don't I don't. I never it I've tried a lot I just wanted uh food to beat a pill which is an odd thing to say when you're promoting your restaurant yeah you don't want to hear that you hate to hear that from the restaurant tour I hate to eat I hate to eat yeah that's right yeah why did you open this place then like the interviewer actually asks him that and it's like it's like it's an English like a very snooty like English that, and it's like, it's an English, like a very snooty, like, English interviewer, and he's like, is it greed?
Starting point is 00:37:27 And someone's like, oh, yeah, yeah, whatever. No, it's fun to do, you know. You're like, half-assed is some answer. A gotcha moment was attempted. We're taking him to task. Here's what I know that they have. that we find ourselves pat often let down by not just what we're covering this month but other things where like the other theme restaurants where they don't go the extra mile with naming the things this happens all the time where there's only one thing on the menu where they bother and
Starting point is 00:37:57 it's so insulting like why not if you're gonna do a themed something why not go full tilt and have and have fun because there's so much like there is so much fun to be had with naming um i did find i think the drink menu is where they really did it and this is very pixely what i'll show you so it's gonna be a little hard for us um yeah bruce is the only one who tried he gave a damn and that's why his movies this was in an era where he still was he was down to try like two more things and i blew my harmonica in supportive as a sort of like thank you bruce phyllis oh yes for the first summoning of bruce yes please play the the harmonica you brought to the record i just i'm gonna blow i can't actually play it that's okay all right neither can he
Starting point is 00:38:53 nice that's great did that work that was beautiful here's if you really want to be him then like just yell like you don't have to know the tune of the song but just just go like long tall sally and then do whatever you want on the harmonica yeah have you seen his sacrum seven ads from like the 80s uh that is that's that's like in the era where he like he was famous for that for me that's the bruno kind of yeah it's bruno era yeah um i'm not super familiar with with these but they were like exceedingly popular right but but it feels like i think so but it was like that out he had an actual album that came out with him playing harmonica um this is like a future proto yeah planet hollywood bruise because i feel like he was famous for playing harmonica at planet hollywood openings yeah am i crazy his his one of his contributions was always like and of course i can play the opening i can help out i can play the opening with the accelerators.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I think I just have this visual of him with a suede Planet Hollywood jacket, like pointing at the back of it, like that perfect, like, like a Letterman jacket type situation. Big old puffy, as many colors as can be on those sleeves. Yeah, that or like shirtless. I feel like he was just shirtless
Starting point is 00:40:04 at these openings a lot and and bald too and or maybe wearing some goofy hat that's what i found in a lot of these he has a song i'm a boy it is it is shocking we haven't done a full bruno episode because i'm a big fan of the concert i know a lot of the songs he has a song called called Down in Hollywood, which would be perfect. Believe it or not, it would be perfect for the opening. I wish there should be a video of him. I haven't seen him perform those songs. I've seen him do what Scott sang, like Long Tall Sally
Starting point is 00:40:38 at an outdoor festival. It's so fascinating that he was already the coolest guy in the world, but in his brain, he's like, I can be cooler with a harmonica. I think he saw. I just can't
Starting point is 00:40:54 wrap my head around that. I think he saw Billy Joel and I think he goes, I can do that. Like when you see, when you watch Return of Bruno, and one of my favorite songs, probably my favorite song is called Fun Time that he does. We've ended an episode playing this one. This is where the fun starts?
Starting point is 00:41:10 Yeah, we have. What's that? Sorry, Pat. Do the lyrics go, this is where the fun starts? He goes, oh, yes, it's fun time, fun time, like break time, break time. Everyone be happy. It's fun time. And it's all like...
Starting point is 00:41:25 I think I'm thinking of a Seagram's wine cooler commercial. Okay, maybe that's a different... You have multiple songs about fun. Bruce loves to have... That's right. Bruce loves fun. Sounds like a great artist. I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I think we have played fun time. I feel like we ended an episode for some reason playing fun time. And forgive me if I've said this fact already, but it's a fact that's stuck in my brain for a long time since the accelerators have come up. I am a massive Beck fan. Really love Beck. And I love all the amazing musicians he's played with over the years,
Starting point is 00:41:57 especially. And his primary guitar player since Odile era is this amazing guitarist named Smokey Hormel. He's been on tour of them he played all the awesome guitar on sea change and mutations and all the like lush pretty stuff uh he was asked to join beck's band in like 94 95 and it was he was uh heartbroken to have to turn it down because he had already accepted a purely for money gig touring planet hollywoods with bruce willis and the accelerators he almost and then playing with beck became like a decades long and he is beck's guy
Starting point is 00:42:31 and he almost missed it entirely so that he could go right i think this is something we should mention uh the that that a lot of the openings especially for younger listeners a lot of these openings they would just be filled with celebrities like even in the smaller cities that definitely fell off at a certain point but there is a very funny story of tom arnold saying i went to all of them and him and his him and his then wife which i don't think was roseanne because roseanne started getting really into the Planet Hollywood stuff. I don't know. I think he was there in Roseanne era and post-Roseanne era.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And post-Roseanne era. So he always took them up on the free trips, the free flight, the free hotel and everything. You just got gobs of merch. And he's like, my wife was sitting next to George Clooney on the plane when he got a phone call and he hung up and he went, well, I'm Batman. Like he got the call.
Starting point is 00:43:30 It all comes back to Batman. It all comes back. Where's the Schumacher era? The Schumacher Batmans. Yeah. Let me, I mean, like we'll get into celebrities and stuff just while it's open. Let me like point out some of these, these drinks. Cause these are good.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I can't read the descriptions too well, but I love the like degree of selection of movies that we got here we got the jurassic park we got the steel magnolia we got the cliffhanger the legends of the fall sometimes they pluralize not always um indecent proposal and ghost i like that it's a it's a mix of like silly movies and then kind of like austere adult circle of friends is circle of friends goes under shooters you can get shooters that are themed after this like i don't really know what that movie is but can we can we get a round of back drafts can we get around the back draft for the table i'm like i think in legend of the fall brad pitt's character like is like a hopeless alcoholic so like having a specialty drink named after him is in poor taste i'd like to get hammered off of a bunch of terms of endearment shots please what's the terms i
Starting point is 00:44:42 can't can you read the ingredients? Or is it too tall? God, I wonder if I can find a better one. Yeah, the term. Wait. Wait, is there terms of endearment? That's about cancer, right? Isn't that a joke? Did I make that up?
Starting point is 00:44:53 Or did you say it? Wait, no. I don't see terms of endearment. I didn't say you made that up. I think I assumed it was on here somewhere. Steel Magnolias is on here. I want to let the listener in on a little peek. I said, okay, Carlson, you're a funny guy. here's what you're gonna do you're gonna think of a movie
Starting point is 00:45:08 they haven't said that seems like a serious movie i said it out loud no one seemed to laugh at it and then all of a sudden everyone thought it was actually something you said it seemed plausible yeah i commend you for realism because it's like so close to steel magnolia why yeah we're all just immediately like oh i don't see terms of it it's notable so close to steel magnolia why yeah we're all just immediately like oh i don't see terms of it it's notable they have an entire mart like they specialize in martinis yeah yeah ghost 12 monkeys which you know 12 monkeys has to have some bullshit banana ingredient some fakey awful sabrina that real rat pack swinging movie 12 monkeys they're all just a bunch of 12 monkeys this can't be licensed they don't yeah they have to but they are they're a lot of the stuff like
Starting point is 00:45:54 cliffhanger is stallone terminal velocity is willis right no that's um charlie sheen i think or the drop zone or terminal charlie she is either in drop zone or terminal velocity charlie sheen shows up in one of the openings she was around she was around they picked him up it seemed to go in tiers like they gave they started with the big three which turned into the big four with demi more and then it started expanding you know who else was early in fall like often it is like more like oh like party guy kind of celebrities and Tom Arnold makes sense but then
Starting point is 00:46:31 like John Hughes early on John Hughes not the most like public man and I think he he was genuinely interested I think in like having a place he could go with a private booth and i think the chicago location had a space that had to be reserved for john in case he he came in wow that's crazy that was the chicago location was in gurney mills which is right by six flags oh wow like what a zone minutes yeah minutes from six flags one of the ones listed i believe Gurney, Illinois stuck out to me in the 1999 news stories about Planet Hollywood to close upwards of a dozen locations.
Starting point is 00:47:12 And it just, I was like, why is there one in Gurney, Illinois? Because of the Six Flags. I'm sure that's why. Gurney Mills was a pretty big mall. It's still a mall. I forget if its name has changed. Maybe Home Alone, the massive success of home alone put illinois on the map for for a minute that's true yeah um i i went to a couple times the atlantic city one which was on the
Starting point is 00:47:40 boardwalk at caesar's i know i have a shirt somewhere i have a number of planet hollywood t-shirts uh i believe because my family had the planet hollywood credit card for a while so we had a lot of points what i read a comment somewhere might have even been in our facebook or somebody talking about like they're like that the waiter was pushing the credit card the whole time and that it was like well it really makes sense because you know if you're gonna eat here and you're gonna buy murder so your parents had a planet hollywood what does it get you well i i should say i should ask him if this was a coincidence or whether it happened at the same time because my dad a proud sheridan heirloom uh has the denim jacket the planet hollywood denim jacket with the patch on the back in good
Starting point is 00:48:25 shape uh and i have not stolen it yet but we cashed in like he i think they were getting rid of it they were they were getting rid of the card and my parents were getting rid of the card and we did cash in and uh my brother and i got a few shirts they were very clear that like you don't get to pick which city the shirts are from we're just gonna send you shirts um but i also got this fine uh watch that i would wear to school dances and uh nice family weddings and stuff jane with like the shitty 90s logo with like the very like that's like latter day yeah style laughing from the other room this watch of course the battery would go on to die and the band would very quickly
Starting point is 00:49:10 disintegrate it's the cute what did jane just say i what did you say i yeah i wore it to formal offense i love yes she's responding in the same thing i'm responding to i love it's it's the cutest thing i can possibly think of is that you're like, I'm getting dressed up. And to finish off this look for my dressed up dance look is the Planet Hollywood, the finest piece of jewelry I own. That's because people would come back from vacations with the shirts or the bomber jackets and stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:41 It was the thing. I love it. It was the thing. And I know I still have it sitting at my mom's. And now it's like, was the thing i love it it was the thing and i know i still have it sitting at my mom's and now it's now it's like okay do i try to find it and repair it like get a new battery get a new band or do i just buy it again because that's insane i mean i guess i'd like you to do it but i just really want you to bring like islands of adventure watch like some old italian watch fixer like who's normally fixing
Starting point is 00:50:06 like stop stop watches and old and like no this one it's like a little yeah it's like a little cottage somewhere up like in like somewhere on the hills i'm impressed that the case i guess if you can't see the photo like it comes in a case that looks as if it's the most valuable thing in the world yes it does yeah it looks like it's like that i mean the case tells you i guess especially if you're a kid you're like this is expensive this is an important watch there it is yeah well look it felt more fitting with a suit because my other watch looked like you know it's just whatever like timex expedition that my mom had just bought for stocking stuffers or whatever we got to figure out how we can restore this watch and how you can wear it maybe every day there's one guy like at the last planet hollywood who can fix it the
Starting point is 00:50:55 watchmaker is there did any of those guys star in a movie about a watchmaker i mean i have a watch guy i i don't know oh i think i can gonna do it guy yeah you got a watch guy how often you go to your watch guy if i need a new battery or the band is worn out and i need a new band okay because you open up the back is the watch of the battery yeah you pop the back out yeah wow interesting this is a given you gotta take this in if you have a guy we don't have a guy i but that's the thing i don't know where the original one is, but there are plenty of versions of it online, and there are numerous other played out. Not very much money.
Starting point is 00:51:31 All right. Did you ever go out of your way at a dance to, like, were you dancing in such a way to try to, like, flip those wrists around? Hands up, everyone. No, Scott. I was too busy dealing with the flop sweat and uh nerves so uh i don't think i ever mentioned it uh because i at least had the sense of like
Starting point is 00:51:53 it's like can you play uh time is on my side just so i can do this when they say time not really a prom song you went up to like a strobe light and tried like reflecting the strobe off of your watch to like i do that i mean that watch it is actually until you see the planet hollywood logo it looks like a pretty tasteful watch yeah it is surprisingly reserved by planet hollywood standards exactly yeah and a girl would have to get really close to you to be able to see that detail of the logo so i think you're showing a're showing that off basically in success. And I don't know what level of success you were dealing with. Sealing the deal, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:33 I like this Jason guy, but did you see his fucking watch? Holy crap. And nothing was special about it. It didn't do anything, right? Hollywood-y, right? Oh, man, I wish. No, I mean, I think it had a date on it but you know uh i had a watch a star wars star trek watch that would play the theme song when you pressed it so i thought
Starting point is 00:52:51 maybe like you press a button and play like hooray for hollywood or something i robert earl just thanks you for the thank you for patronizing my restaurant let me real quick just because we're talking about the jacket and the watch here i don't you guys probably saw this but there's a shirt here that schwarzenegger is wearing and i want to know if jason remembers this because he was i i think it's safe to say he was the biggest planet hollywood fan of one of the four of us right as a kid wait jason it sounds yeah i guess so i know i i thought maybe i'm more of a fan post-2010s. Yeah, I think so. I'm a fan just of that era of Hollywood in general.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Right, right. But not that restaurant specifically. I heard it referred to as the 90s was the last really fun time for Hollywood because there was a limited number of cameras. There were beepers and early cell phones, but you weren't constantly tracked every hour of the day. Yeah. So Schwarzenegger is wearing a shirt that looks like a carpeting at a bowling alley, kind of,
Starting point is 00:53:52 but also it's a Hawaiian shirt. It's got the big gaudy Planet Hollywood logo. It's got rocket ships. It almost looks like the Space Jam logo. The Space Jam logo is the Planet Hollywood logo. It's very, very colorful. Very gaudy. But the thing I found the most on eBay
Starting point is 00:54:09 are vest versions. Oh, wow. Vests? A vest, yeah. And we talked about last, on the dive episode, there's a denim vest you can get with a big dive logo. But these are cheap. These Planet Hollywood vests. We can get this for under $20. And Jason, I think, if you would uh let me i would love to purchase us one of these vests for you
Starting point is 00:54:31 if you would wear it i i i will i would happily wear this like at one of our shows we all we all three of us wear these rainbow vests without shirts on underneath that like immediately people leave and ask for their money back like why did it come to this mark out you can all just become professional billiard players and wear at the billiard games uh yeah so i mean i guess we'll do it it off mic, but I do think. The only thing that concerns me about these vests is, like, there's a lot of very, like, generic-y kind of designs. The Planet Hollywood logos don't seem big enough to me.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I see what you're saying. You know what I mean? Right, right. Where it's, like, cut off. I like that. That one looks better. Yeah, okay. Okay, so I think you could find it.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I think it depends. Maybe each one is very unique, because look at this. This is really out front. That one's good. Yeah, okay. Okay, so I think you could find it. I think it depends. Maybe each one is very unique, because look at this. This is really out front. That one's good. Yeah, that one's good. Yeah, so I think it was like, you know, each one is a unique snowflake. It's like LuLaRoe. You also have to wear these. The only thing acceptable to wear under these
Starting point is 00:55:40 vests is a button-down, a collarless button-down. Oh, yeah, sure. Like all the button down. Oh, yeah, sure. Like all the way up. Yeah. Well, I thought either that or like a white t-shirt. Like a too shiny Macy's white t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:55:55 That's very Bruce Willis-y too. Like very 90s Bruce Willis. Well, yeah. It reminds me of like a Full House Stamos look. Oh, big time. I would think Coulier. Well, yeah, it's the gaudiness of the Joey character, not Uncle Joey, of the Joey character and the like cool sexiness of the Uncle Jesse character.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Jesse's wearing it without anything underneath joey's wearing it with a like tritone long sleeve shirt and jean shorts and it's all tucked in the vest is tucked in too right can i share um uh some of the the current uh celebs that they're like pushing on the planet hollywood home page i cannot imagine who yes some of which some of which are promoting the merchandise uh it's exactly who you think it is you got reese witherspoon you got josh gatton a little hat gwen stefani is doing a residency and of course who would be wearing the clothing why it's jacob sartorius himself what who's jacob sartorius why Why, it's Jacob Sartorius, the young online influencer who is like, uh, came
Starting point is 00:57:08 I think was very popular like years ago and is now 20. I have never come across this name. Did you know who that was, Jason, before? I did know who Jacob Sartorius was. I don't know what he's known for. Jason has out-hipped us again. I don't think
Starting point is 00:57:24 Jason Sartorius is hip i'm gonna call jacob well that's what we wish as he was is jason sartorius pretty cool name a cool name sure uh yeah sartorius is a first name i would really love that's that's the thing that's a very weird crop and a very weird like yeah check out check out this 12 year old wearing wearing the sweatshirt like what i mean they you can still mail order you can still buy all the sweatshirts and stuff they have a very big store at the orlando location although i think chicken guy has taken over a chunk of it for seating. This is modern.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I'm showing a photo now of modern merch, and I kind of like these sweatshirts. They're very modern. They have the Planet Hollywood logo, but they're kind of faded. Faded mono color type. Yeah, and this is cool, but this isn't exactly what I want from the brand. I want the airline brand. You know, I want the airline one, that top gun looking one.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah. Like there's, there's some that they really look like planet Hollywood is like a gym or a high school or something, which like get out. I don't understand. Why would anyone, what would possess someone to buy a shirt from planet Hollywood?
Starting point is 00:58:40 That is almost impossible to tell it's from there. Exactly. Yeah. What is that insecurity about your uh shitty brand i guess well they also got some real american like i'm like over over designed red white and blue eagle crap yeah this is founded 1991 yeah this is it looks like patriot gear and if you squint you go, oh, it's a Planet Hollywood shirt. Okay. And then like as far as jackets, like look at this.
Starting point is 00:59:10 I mean, again, I'm not mad at this jacket but it's not the colorful sleeves, thick like Steven Spielberg bomber jacket with nine colors. It's only one color. It's one color. There's a little logo. It's black. It's very form-fitting,
Starting point is 00:59:25 and it's got a Planet Hollywood logo on the left shoulder. Yeah. Which is like, and it's small. Again, it's small. It's like you'd have to be, like a woman would have to be slow dancing with you at a high school dance to read the logo
Starting point is 00:59:39 because she'd be kind of looking at your arm that close. Yeah. And you have not taken your motorcycle jacket off yeah now they do have here they have one varsity jacket and it says that's the og that's the that's the thing yeah yeah and that's 190 dollars do you guys watch um just uh do you guys watch um the righteous gemstones on hbo yeah i'm not caught up but yeah there was an episode recently that was set in the 90s when they were like doing a christmas special and um baby billy who's walton goggins kind of like ridiculous brother character is uh rocking a nine he's set in the 90s rocking a planet hollywood vest and
Starting point is 01:00:17 they it was right before we take this i was very excited to like no kidding oh i wish i made it up to that oh what a great character to be. Perfect Planet Hollywood fan. That makes sense. Wow. You know, merchandise with the logo isn't the only thing that Planet Hollywood is selling. Because I don't know if the question has occurred to any of you, what happened to all of the merchandise? And I discovered that what happened to at least some of it is that they are just selling it on amazon there is a store called the planet hollywood collectibles store and i'm
Starting point is 01:00:53 going to share screen here um again maybe i've i've overloaded with too many windows let me just let me drop a few but yeah you can there is a a store you can find that is just like random props and you could just buy it now it's not an auction um you can just go straight to it is it ebay or amazon amazon weirdly okay because then yeah there wouldn't be an auction on amazon oh so when you say merchandise you don't you don't mean like the jackets and stuff you mean like the props i mean the props yeah and none of them are i mean well you'll see there's a few that i might describe as a little exciting and some that are more of the hangover regular shirt nature um you guys seeing this i mean we have here rain man's shoes which are going for 700 raymond babbitt's shoes and it's 25 shipping which i
Starting point is 01:01:47 don't know do you get amazon prime free shipping for any of these i guess not i don't think the any i don't think that applies i don't think they have that deal i mean i would never buy these but it doesn't seem like the worst like that is a best picture winning movie yeah yeah an iconic character yeah it's like more prominent than what you would expect to find on the planet hollywood exactly collectibles amazon store um well don't worry we get a little deeper uh for the film buffs out there what with danny aiello's dosmo pizzo ensemble from two days in the valley oh wow which is 400 for a bowling shirt a white t-shirt like slacks big boots which those are crazy oh it's socks okay i was gonna say all right all
Starting point is 01:02:36 right it looked like stockings or something and then like do you get his boxers too what are we talking what do we look like traditional white boxers yeah we're dan we're boxer wear underwear that danny aiello that looks like you that looks like you could wear that to a brian setzer concert one of you guys rocks one of the vests yeah oh yeah yeah or the vest yeah vest underneath this too and then if it's like you get too hot. When you're swing dancing, you get too hot. You just take it off and you just have a vest. Hey, this guy looks like Dosmo Pizzo over here.
Starting point is 01:03:14 You're the coolest boy. Watch how this guy jump drives in Wales. You think you're Danny Aiello? Because you're not. There could only be one uh here is uh rob schneider's costume as the character fergie it's like a it's a prison jumpsuit from judge dread that you can buy right now listeners for uh seventeen uh seventeen hundred dollars or one thousand seven hundred fifty dollars how is this a thousand dollars more than the like the rain man rain man
Starting point is 01:03:48 rain man's i guess because it's more stuff and then just who i guess maybe who cares about rain man about his shoes but the shoes kind of tell you something they're kind of like they're sort of like gump's shoes right these are simple for whatever reason i think as you i think you mentioned this earlier scott like uh planet hollywood places a premium on judge anything judge dread related that might be part of it yes that's maintained and they feel like with the reboot whenever that was three years ago 12 years ago i couldn't tell you but it's dread mania again they keep pumping life into it well it seems like there's still an informal relationship at least a few years ago that the that esquire reporter could not get anyone on the record to say they still were involved
Starting point is 01:04:37 but the premieres for the 2008 rambo and the expendables were held at the Planet Hollywood Casino and Hotel in Las Vegas. Really? Yeah. So Sly's kind of in the fold a little bit. Kind of in the fold, but still gave a no comment of like, do you still own shares? Because they declared bankruptcy twice, right? They declared it in 99. And then in 2001, they chalked it up to the tourism downturn. Sure.
Starting point is 01:05:06 That's it. There's a lot of other, isn't there a lot of, I think I sent Scott an article back when we, I told him I wanted to, you know, I mentioned that I had an interest in doing this, but like the guy who, one of the guys died, one of the founders died recently, right? I mean, there's, you guys probably, there's some, I guess there's so much
Starting point is 01:05:22 financial intrigue with this place that i feel like i i don't only know the surface of there's a bunch of there's a bunch of stuff yeah i can explain the the characters uh involved that that's a funny character one of your favorite guys what are your favorite guys oh you know i've been dying to talk but i'm gonna yeah i'll weave the whole the whole tale and the lip head in on it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Here, really quickly, just while it's up. We got a Jessica Lange's cape from Rob Roy for $1,000. We got a Smashing Pumpkins shirt worn by Elijah Wood in Flipper. Wow, in Flipper. That's 450. That's not bad. If you were, for some reason, in Flipper. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Some of these, I'm like, it was like $200 less, maybe. A little, and maybe they'll get there. They might not be committed to the, and these might've all been up for years at this point. So maybe we'll get a little downturn. This one's pretty genuinely crazy. It's a John Candy life mask. That's how they made his face to be barf and space balls
Starting point is 01:06:28 so it's a weird creepy it's like a closed uh it's john candy's real face but with a with a little like black painted for his snout that's like wow i don't know if you were into space balls that's not so bad people who would like hang this on their wall for sure but for sure yeah yeah that creepily mounted like you like you killed him you hunted and killed bark it's terrifying but yeah uh this is a a piece of wood that harrison ford has jack ryan touched in clear and present danger wow he's in a room with lots of logs and he touched this log scene or something i looked it up i did find a still of him like looking confused in a room full of logs i don't know why that happens maybe he beats someone like doesn't he kill a guy maybe with a log i don't know oh wow this does seem like a scam at this point yeah if he heard him
Starting point is 01:07:21 if harrison ford hurt himself on the log i think the price would skyrocket i don't know harrison ford injuries are a dime a dozen it's impossible to authenticate this like yeah it's a log he touched a log what do you say you didn't touch a log yeah yeah i don't how can they possibly how did we know it's the one that he touched um and how does that like harrison ford touches an item and it goes from uh worth two dollars to 350 um he is he is like christ he has magic powers that way um we have some actual silk stockings from silk stockings i mean from silk stockings i don't know if it's the silk stockings they may have had a lot of and by the silk stockings, you have to keep in mind is spelled like stalking, like following somebody.
Starting point is 01:08:09 So in a way with the double play, but they are stockings and they're only a hundred dollars. And then where am I heading? Oh, some leather pants that John Lithgow wore on third rock from the sun. This is what, this is one of the weirdest, like of all the things on Amazon, you know, like one click and you can buy this. I think it's really weird that any listener right now could, if they ponied up $2,000,
Starting point is 01:08:34 buy a Jack Benny violin. Well, now. Real gas for Mike. Jason and I may need to pool our money and do like the Simpspsons one of the first season with the comic book situations no with you'll kill your seal kill each other with the violin you'll have any signature violin and bow was he a violin part of his jam i guess that's yeah yeah i don't know i don't know my jack benny that well i'm sorry he would do it sometimes in a
Starting point is 01:09:02 bit yeah the bit was like no one wanted to hear him play it really oh so this one yeah this one seems more famous than like john luther's pants yeah it's pretty all respect to lifka yeah yeah of course yeah i just don't remember the pants or why he was wearing leather clearly i mean obviously like they're they're if he wore those pants on an episode that's the point of the episode those are those are load-bearing i remember the pants episode i think i do remember the pants i watched it recently we've been re-watching it and yeah there's it's kind of like a an important outfit in that episode so you recognize when i brought up the pants you're like of course the pants i just saw the pants yeah yeah we're all laughing but i can't wait for this us to stop
Starting point is 01:09:45 recording we all just go into a bidding war immediately over all this stuff excuse me a sec and i'll just oh and then and then have to do the rest of the episode through gritted teeth because we're really mad damn it i'm one of those stockings pat snipe me on the stockings the silk stockings i mean the one i genuinely have thought of and I'm still thinking about buying is a flip phone used by Michael Douglas in Disclosure, which is, you talk like mid-90s insanity. I love Disclosure. But this prop is not in very good condition. And frankly, I don't understand why a flip phone had to be made out of foam rubber to begin with. So I don't know that I want a pony up 450 for this oh wow 450 for that yeah but i'm tempted i really i thought
Starting point is 01:10:33 about it i gave it like five solid minutes of thought it's kind of like the it's kind of like the consolation for like you can't get the i'm sure like his cell phone from um wall street is like in the smithsonian now oh yes the closest thing you get yeah there's a much more prominent douglas cell phone that is true you know um scott while we're on the subject of props could we hear from a certified hollywood celeb and planet hollywood shareholder herself about planet hollywood's of course i don't know to whom you refer i'm i'm on pins and needles well i'm referring to uh miss demi moore herself now i'm gonna play this clip and uh kind of gives an image of hollywood at its time uh what i really want to focus on is a few seconds in
Starting point is 01:11:17 but i figured i'd i'd have this set up too so uh hold on one second here it goes one of the things planet hollywood has become famous for is its collection of movie memorabilia each planet hollywood location is like a museum within a fun house and as you might expect the planet hollywood in beverly hills has to be the champion of them all so let's get down to the heavy stuff hard way Now, what would movies be without guns? She's at a restaurant booth holding up a big gun, a huge gun. That's right. What would movies be without guns? A phrase we're all constantly saying still to this day in 2022.
Starting point is 01:11:56 If you'll notice, she also had what appears to be the golden idol from Raiders of the Lost Ark behind her. Not even in a case just sitting around just sitting behind her and her giant gun somebody could spill a steel magnolia drink on that wow that's insane that frame of you gotta post at least well the whole clip but i'll just clip that part oh my god yeah her holding up the gun and bragging about, like, after kind of a dull montage of, like, look, it's the outfit from the mask. It's the outfit from this thing.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And then she's like, and of course, where would we be without guns? Wow. Chilling. Chilling. Well, do you want to get into history a little bit? Or have we missed anything about, like, personal experiences we've had or fun specific memories or food? Just like, like, you know, the grab bag of what makes Planet Hollywood Planet Hollywood. Yeah, I have a request for listeners.
Starting point is 01:12:56 One of the best meals I ever ate was at a Planet Hollywood. And it was seared scallops over linguine with a lime cream sauce and capers and i've never had anything like it if anyone has a recipe like that because i went to a play in hollywood once went back a few years later and of course the menu had totally changed because they were constantly uh changing the menu to little luck of improving it but uh so you're calling for the listeners to just give you a recipe that sounds like the thing that to recreate your magical meal one of the best meals you've ever had which was like seymour skinner himself i've never been able to recreate the stew the stew
Starting point is 01:13:37 i well i mean i i it seems like if anyone in the world can find out the executive chef at that time it'd be you guys it's true it's probably a way harnessing the power of your fans yeah yeah maybe yeah maybe the man himself or woman could make you the recipe themselves it's like a little bit it'll make me come off as really irritating
Starting point is 01:14:00 um so just preface it with that okay we're deep in people are enjoying you already so I thought hopefully they don't bail right now um but uh Iface it with that okay we're deep in people are enjoying you already so i thought hopefully they don't fail right now um but uh i think it was probably one of those last times i was there i might have actually i went there before we saw the beetle just musical uh and we just got drinks and maybe appetizers by the bar and um the irritating thing is that i'm gonna i have to reference that like i got recognized by the waitress because she knew from the college. She was being called.
Starting point is 01:14:26 She knew college humor stuff. Oh, wow. At the time I got recognized from time to time. That's the irritating part. Sorry. But no, this is an episode about celebrities. See, this was your, this was your sly moment. I mean, I was like, you know, we were just,
Starting point is 01:14:41 my friend was like laughing his ass off because he just thought it was embarrassing or whatever. But I was like, I did ask her. I was like, I was like, oh, thanks for watching. That's cool. You know? And, but I was like, just like out of curiosity, this is planet Hollywood. Like, do you get a lot of celebrities here anymore? Like in this, this is like 2017, 18.
Starting point is 01:14:58 And she was like, ah, you know who was here recently? And I was like, who? She goes, Kellyanne Conway. I was like, okay, well,ann conway i was like okay well between her i guess what a company to be in so kellyann conway has been to uh the planet hollywood new york wow that's uh that's good that's good to show that wasn't it wasn't like a just a predator suit that was in the lobby you try to steal everything i mean it's like i have to like name drop it or like whatever it's boastful but then also the it makes it like apparently in this woman's mind i'm like kelly and conway neck and neck with yeah the level the kelly and conway of uh 2010's internet comedy uh if you need to use
Starting point is 01:15:49 that quote on a book or something something yeah what an honor one waitress one time out of planet hollywood uh jason you've been to the planet hollywood inside the caesar's casino in atlantic city i i oh in atlantic Oh, yeah. Okay. Multiple times? I think so. Yeah, I definitely have a t-shirt from there. Okay, because I'm reading here that the actual grandpa from the Munsters, Dragula, hung in this planet Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:16:20 What? Grandpa Al Lewis? Grandpa Al Lewis, yes. The location is the planet uh pictures of there's a you know a website called monster coach.com of course it talks about the monster cars wait now which can now let's get specific here because we've run into trouble with this before which car are we talking we're talking about the dragula grandpa's car which is a coffin car basically like a drag race that's the distinction that grandpa's car is the dragula but Grandpa's car, which is a coffin car, basically, like a drag race. That's the distinction
Starting point is 01:16:46 that Grandpa's car is the Dragula, but you wouldn't call it the Munster's car. The Munster car, it's called the Munster's coach, and that's the bigger car that you usually see them in. The Dragula is from a specific episode where Grandpa races.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Okay. Yeah. But it says it's hanging, there's pictures of it here let me show you jason just in case this jogs any memories for you i don't know and we should say this location long gone yeah yeah yeah yeah it looks familiar yeah whoa wow this is a major piece of yeah recent ptr it's been things have been very monster heavy recently so that's amazing that's Oh, wow. This is a major piece of recent PTR. Things have been very Munster heavy recently. So that's amazing. That's where this was.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Wow. And then the Dorothy was kind of a rare exception of like a non car. Like most of the like the speed bus speed cars. So the prime real estate or the prime attractions that these places had room for a bus to be hung from the ceiling well i'm not sure how they did it but it was like it's i'm sure you can google it but like it was bursting through the wall like i think it was only like the front of the bus yeah yeah yeah um i mean i think i remember a lot of cars at the the disney world one which we haven't super focused on but like that thing was but man that
Starting point is 01:18:05 restaurant was so crazy and went up so high it felt like a four-tiered restaurant and all in a big dome and i think this is a picture of the disney world one i could be wrong but the it or maybe it isn't i don't know but this is the wayne's world car right the mirth mobile mirth mobile that's pretty big with another demolition man naked sly next to him at least if this isn't disney world then that could have been the one because that had the herbie the love bug that's what i'd rather i'd like to know what happened all these cars that's so crazy they had room for all this i thought there was like this whole other like museum just for cars for of these kinds i'm surprised that isn't there like some very famous museum that just has all like the batmobile and there's a bunch of the because i think a
Starting point is 01:18:54 number of them were made like there is there is a small car museum at this massive chain of dealerships in van nuys california and they have a bunch of the cars and you used to be able to just walk through uh barris custom auto had a small museum they did a lot of the they did the batmobile they did the monsters car um but i have a story about the disney world one that jane told me her like she she hadn't been there but her sister, she doesn't like things hanging above her. So avoid it. She would avoid horrible restaurant. So her sister would try to scare her by saying there's a massive Woody from Toy Story in this plane out Hollywood hanging above you.
Starting point is 01:19:40 There's a massive Woody from Toy Story. And we thought it was like, oh, how big could it be? How big could it be? How big could it be? And so we found video online and we looked it up and it turns out, yeah, he's pretty big. Jesus. Yeah. That's not what Woody's like. That's so scary.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Yeah. He is like the size of the Home Depot 12 foot skeleton hanging over like a tunnel with that sort of bent girder design this is this is not like a prop from the movie this is like some custom built thing right yeah they didn't yeah they like early on was the technology that such that you had to build a giant two-story model of the toy to get it in the computer i think it was it was just a yeah because it was at disney they had that when we were down in florida in 2019 i walked through the gift shop and uh i was the only one doing that and they had a lot of stuff on sale so um i don't know how uh long for the world that gift shop was especially when chicken guy was so popular and they needed the seating the um the yeah the disney world one i don't know if you ever
Starting point is 01:20:52 went pat or have seen photos of it but it's like i thought i had oh i'll let you i'm sorry you go ahead oh no no no go ahead i thought i was trying to do my like little mental inventory i've been to the new york one at least three times. And then I had this very distinct memory of going to my dad in Orlando because a couple of years ago, my dad's an engineer, and he wanted to see the last space shuttle launch. So we drove down. We flew down there to see it. But we just stayed in Orlando proper.
Starting point is 01:21:18 No Disney World, though. But I can't. It's in Disney World, right? It's in actual Disney World. It is, yeah. It's at the what used to be pleasure island weird novelty you know you know like orlando not like there's a lot of themed restaurants there's like they have their own little time square right in orlando
Starting point is 01:21:35 different yeah but it's in you might have been there it's in disney springs which is like this free shopping area you could just go to it's what i mean there was a restaurant that looked like it looked like the entire building was upside down from the outside does that ring a bell oh that's something else yeah that's like is that a ripley's believe it or not i feel like that's that's a thing ripley's does well we ain't near that area so that's not the right sorry there's a dead end i don't know why no no that might be like i drive like like yeah there is a there is a lot of touristy crap and dinner theaters and big giant freestanding restaurants and i just just like conflated that with like hollywood or something could be that's no i've
Starting point is 01:22:16 never been but i've not been to i've been to disney world a long time ago but i've not been to the um as far as i know the planet hollywood down there the planet out there it's like i mean this it like so captured my imagination at nine ten years old whenever it opened i remember i remember seeing it off of the freeway on the approach this is my second disney world trip ever and just like oh my god like i like seeing it rise up over the trees this mammoth globe type building yeah which then not just in orlando you got the globe at universal the globe and planet hollywood like really globe heavy what does that mean i uh it's like it's like it's some sort of like world conquering theme i don't know it's not it's creepy um but they i just like and and walking up to that like state it only got
Starting point is 01:23:07 stranger and straight felt like the peak 1994 it got so strange as time went on and it never changed and it's not only this huge blue marble building but then also a ufo crashed into it and also there's a big like alligator or dinosaur or something wearing a planet hollywood t-shirt and then outside of it they parked not there's not just the vehicles inside but outside there was the fishing boat jenny from forest gump confusingly not at a bubba gump well you would think they'd want to reserve that for like the biggest bubba gump but they lost control of it i I don't know. Was there a Bubba Gump in Orlando?
Starting point is 01:23:47 That's a universal. Yes. If you could draw the corporate lines. Yes, they are aligned with universal. Was the UFO crashing into the building? Was it like a UFO from like Mars attacks or something? Or was it just kind of generic UFO? I think just generic UFO.
Starting point is 01:24:01 It just like serves as an awning. See, I don't like that. I'm like, why? That's breaking the theme of the whole place to me. Yeah, that's true. It should be like, make it the Independence Day ship or make it like Doc Brown's DeLorean or whatever they have access to. Or Flight of the Navigator.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Sure. I mean, yeah. That's right. Something Disney. Yeah. I don't know why they didn't get it. And why is it some generic dinosaur and not 98 Godzilla? That obviously would be iconic as soon as we looked at it.
Starting point is 01:24:27 That was living in the New York one, you know? Yeah, yeah, of course. All the pieces of the Godzilla were living in New York. Anyway, I just like, stylistically, that location, I find it so funny that they basically, the whole area that it's in used to be really bright, colorful, gaudy 90s. And it only got stranger as time went on. I remember looking outside there as the paint is fading.
Starting point is 01:24:52 And the little lagoon next to it just gets dirtier and dirtier. It felt like there was malaria in that water. It was just so seedy, if you guys recall. And then they're like, we got to refresh this thing. They kind of like beige-ified this entire shopping center. But they're like, how the hell do we
Starting point is 01:25:11 change this big globe build? How do we make this not abhorrent and kind of like, in my opinion, blandify it? Which is why now it's the observatory at Planet Hollywood, correct? Correct, correct yes so this is how this is a redressed okay big blue marble uh which looks cool sort of but a little more restrained
Starting point is 01:25:36 it's that new logo it's that yeah it's that vegas logo too the p like you know lowercase that's classy jason's watch style sort of jason's watch classy jason watch style that water still looks weird right they didn't clean the water probably far too late they have the crazy milkshake trend they hopped on that trend yeah that's disgusting to me like just caked on like that building is entirely different looking than it used to be yeah yeah they managed to like figure out something else to do with a big weird round um as opposed to like all the other ones that are like that like myrtle beach they just demolished do you have that okay that's mid construction okay okay wow you're right that's
Starting point is 01:26:18 like an entirely but you're totally right that's so different yeah yeah and the most 90s ever which is i guess really why i'm i'm in love with the place ultimately you feel the the 94 in its genes yeah yeah um but anyway i mean is now the time to to talk about the the rise and fall a little bit uh and bring my favorite character into my favorite character in restaurant fiction, uh, Robert Earl into the scene. Uh,
Starting point is 01:26:49 uh, Pat, are you familiar with the name Robert Earl? Was he, was this the guy who I sent you his obituary when he died? It is not, is not that guy. So here,
Starting point is 01:26:57 if, if, so for explaining the whole Baxter, we'll go, we'll go in order of, of how this thing, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:27:03 yeah, go nuts. The, so the so um the original guy jason you probably read some of this in that esquire article which is really great kate's story is the writer on it uh so i'm pulling from that a lot but there there was okay so there's a producer named keith bearish he is the producer of Sophie's Choice and in his, of course, and in his, he had an actor, I don't know if it was
Starting point is 01:27:31 an assistant or just an actor who was around, was reading the script of the Flintstones movie in this producer's office and it involved name checking a place called Holly Rock and this guy Brian Kessner was reading and he said out loud to the producer, that should be a real place. There should be a restaurant called Holly Rock.
Starting point is 01:27:52 And that is how Planet Hollywood got started somehow. Wow. Those odd beginnings. And I guess the idea started spinning out of, oh, a restaurant where you could sit next to the ruby slippers or whatever uh from wizard of oz um so that intrigued this producer who went and talked to the person whose obituary you found bobby zarum who was a major hollywood publicist um and who seems to have all these like colorful stories from the 70s and weird things about like you know if you don't promote this movie if you don't write an article about this movie i'm gonna
Starting point is 01:28:30 kill myself like he's saying that on the phone so this is like a weird like hollywood crazy story guy um this producer cooper in a in a licorice pizza oh yeah i think so yes i think a very 70s level of hollywood crazy um this guy this producer doesn't know anything about the restaurant business he talks to this guy bobby zaram and is there anybody you can introduce me to and he said why yes robert earl robert earl is a guy i know who is part of the hard rock cafe he might have been running it at this point he is a theme restaurant um i mean, entrepreneur, bigwig, whatever you want to call it. My little thesis for this zone that I want to describe is that
Starting point is 01:29:11 Robert, I think that Robert Earl is a theme restaurant addict. I think that is what we're dealing with here. And that kind of explains the rise and fall. And there's a nice little button to that theory that I have. But God bless his addiction because we've all gotten so much out of it. So Keith Barish is introduced. This guy introduces Keith and Robert Earl. It should be noted also that this is the same guy, Bobby Zarem, who introduced Mia Farrow to Woody Allen. So all of his introductions lead to a lot of good in the world anytime you can get people together um so anyway uh because this producer had also
Starting point is 01:29:55 produced the running man they they they get cooking they start thinking like oh maybe we could get arnold involved with this they literally pitched him on the set of terminator 2 uh and he said yes love it as long as we do schnitzel uh stallone seemingly big to be involved yeah i think they might have told him and then was it schnitzel or strudel strudel might be true okay okay jason would you prefer a schnitzel or what is it uh schnitzel is like a thin pounded uh pork or chicken and then it's breaded i would prefer strudel we ate i ate strudel with you guys once we were eating at the one of the universal hotels and i had already eaten dinner so i just ordered apple strudel yes yes that's classic order from nothing like arnold's moms yeah this is out of here
Starting point is 01:30:45 yeah um so anyways uh uh yeah uh arnold says yes stallone begs to be involved hearing that arnold was involved uh bruce willis said yes as long as my band can play all of the openings uh that literally was uh the contingent and uh and now they're off to the races and then this i think this is from the esquire story uh this is so crazy that uh the two partners are talking about what are we going to call it it's not really going to be holly rock uh one of them says i have a name but i'm not going to tell you you have a name yeah i have a name i'm not going to tell you and as if in a scene from a movie the two men said the name at the same time planet hollywood too perfect i saw that too the most polished anecdote i had ever read i think like the most i believe i believe that the reporter
Starting point is 01:31:38 was told that anecdote but i also believe he has been sitting in his office fine tuning that anecdote for years. So he just has it in his back pocket ready to go. Also, the story, I guess I remember. As if in a movie, they got like just adding that in there, too. It's like Hollywood people like the sheer amount of like Hollywood. Hooray for Hollywood in this restaurant is just so delightful to me. It's just how we think we think in terms of magic i don't know it's a dream fat like dream factory or something you know like
Starting point is 01:32:10 you know like um you guys like if you've got like friends who are like in the writers guild or whatever or like anything they have to they'll get incorporated at some point oh yes and you gotta think you're a little name yeah yeah i've always said i've always tried to convince my friends when i do it i'm like you should call it like tinsel town dream factory or something like that like like don't try to be clever just make it like the and i think it's the same nerve of mine that just loves this whole planet hollywood you know t2 skeletons everywhere it's well it's a yeah it's a bygone era that you know like uh a little bit of pixie dust falling off of the megaplex pixie dust is the megaplex production it's the same dna as like
Starting point is 01:32:51 remember like in the 90s on fox they had these like specials of like how'd they do that and it's like it was all cg already but it was like yeah remember that commercial where the girl sucks her is it pepsi commercial but she sucks the bottle so hard she like gets sucked inside oh right yeah yeah it was a whole special time they made that video that commercial yeah oh absolutely i would eat up anything like that i think yeah you're you know you're cluing into a thing that is very special about planet hollywood that it is like it just now that we know that everything's like filmed in a in a green screen bunker in atlanta it's like all less all less magical the magic's a little bit gone and there isn't like and so being that was such an appeal to me as a kid is like being near the
Starting point is 01:33:31 like i just watch these at home i i never thought that i would be next to the masks mask and if any of that pixie dust could spill off onto me maybe i could get into the business if you did yeah if you did like if you were starting planet hollywood now it would basically just be all the restaurants would have like a hard drive or a computer near all the tables and you'd be like oh wow this toby mcguire's like punching arm was rendered by this computer in a minute like 120 of spider-man wow the computer that rendered it wow from this carousel yeah um so so anyways the just um if i could explain a little bit more about robert earl we've talked
Starting point is 01:34:20 about him before because we covered his restaurant earl of sandwich uh which is a um a sandwich restaurant as the name might imply that's outside as well i think we yeah i don't remember did it involved like mike mitchell getting uh do we go inside do we shrink and go inside his penis or yeah and we went what up his urethra yeah sometimes every once in a while our show has uh magic and scenes in it i thought this restaurant had like a was like mars 2112 where it's like now we're going inside a penis that's a hell of a theme like the human body the human body the restaurant uh did you ever do mars were you ever the speaking of times square uh yeah what was that what uh any any particular i mean it was also kind of it felt a little last legs i mean the the saddest thing was that i mean i'll be quick here i'm sorry i never uh i'm not sure
Starting point is 01:35:15 the main thing was like the whole point is like you were supposed to get into like you show up it's kind of like the star trek experience you know the the vegas thing oh yeah yeah where it's like you show up and you wait in line then they're like okay get in this room and you're gonna sit down and you're gonna go on a spaceship to mars and then the door opens the other side then you're like a video plays but we got there they're like oh yeah this thing's not playing so just walk into the restaurant i was like that's the whole point it was weird i like that it's not i like that it's like not a star trek thing it's like its own thing original sci-fi you're right not not tied into one of the universes yeah so it's just like but were there like kind of battle star cyborg kind of guys but like you don't know
Starting point is 01:35:59 like i don't have never seen this armor before yeah it was yeah yeah nothing there was familiar to me in terms of like i mean maybe some knockoff star trek shit but like it was not um it was all i mean it was not high quality but it was um did you ever see that um that episode of 30 rock where um tracy morgan's like i think son who's kind of a con man it has it has that restaurant where like godzillas fight each other for your oh yeah oh i don't know if i saw this one it's kind of a random poll sorry but i guarantee that restaurant is based on 2112s sure right yeah godzilla fighting sorry they did all play um they did all the aliens did dance to um don't rock the boat what why that's not about mars like yeah i'm sure have you been like earth's fragile ecosystem or something oh i see yeah yeah yeah uh too late
Starting point is 01:36:56 we're all rocking the boat yeah sorry if that's a tangent we didn't heed the aliens warning um okay so uh no no anyways the um okay so uh robert earl we talked about um he basically uh i became enamored with him partially off of this it really came from reading this planet hollywood article a number of years ago where they described this guy as like like the the the it's about the downfall of planet holly, and they describe this guy as kind of like a, he's a pear-shaped version of Dudley Moore who walks around with his pants unbuckled and his shirt tails hanging out. And he's kind of this like flouncy silk shirt guy
Starting point is 01:37:37 who's like kind of like Robin Leach, a bit raw, but maybe a little whiny. You get a little Veruca salt salt in there and any videos you see he's like t-rexing his little arms around and helping himself to morsels of food he's just this this very odd little character uh um and just really quick i'll sit to introduce you pat to uh the man who brought us this establishment and continues to fight for it. Here's a selection of photos of Mr. Earl. Here he is at his other.
Starting point is 01:38:13 He also owns Bucca di Beppo, which is why they're paired up. Well, you see on the right is actor Arnold Schwarzenegger. That is the more buff fellow. He's also a governor. And on the left is Robert Earl holding up a big meatball. What year is this from? What year is this from? Meatball to Arnold. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Could be. Eat up, nummy nums. Oh, that's another thing to know. Somewhere in Planet Hollywood stories, I heard, like, the interviewer asked him a serious question about having to declare Chapter 11 bankruptcy, and he said, and Robert Earl's answer is, ah, yes, that was the start of the wobblies. Well, wait.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Now, in the Esquire thing, they point out, like, he was sued by Hard Rock because he basically opened a movie version of Hard Rock, and he said the lawsuit was, quote, a real bloodbath, and then added, I'm probably fairly litigious, and it would all be in a day's work. He pauses, then adds, I'm a sicko, so I was probably enjoying it. A bit of a sicko, ain't I? A bit of a sicko so i was probably enjoying it a bit of a sicko ain't a sicko what he's he's a character here he is just real quick here he is uh with a young fresh-faced will
Starting point is 01:39:36 smith jumping on his back and riding him with the most loving smile you could give a non-parent uh here's robert with peak 2000s justin and britney uh here he is at the casino with sly stallone and the the i guess the king of versailles the the real guy from that documentary the timeshare guy robert siegel um or david siegel looks like according to his name badge David Siegel yeah a great villain but he owned that hotel
Starting point is 01:40:08 didn't he own the Planet Hollywood Hotel yeah they had a partnership yeah yeah yeah it was called Westgate PH yeah well he was trying to get
Starting point is 01:40:17 he he kept fucking up and he was he wouldn't let go of it and eventually did sell it to someone else but it was the timeshare tower, I think,
Starting point is 01:40:26 connected to Planet Hollywood. Wow. I see. Look at this. Yeah. Well, I'm glad he met Stallone. He also got some fun out of it. He eventually bragged about, like,
Starting point is 01:40:39 his horrible company did an aggressive get-out-the- vote in florida for their employees to vote for george w bush and then al gore lost by like 500 votes and when they did the survey of the employees like a thousand employees who said they wouldn't have voted did end up going to the polls and voting for george w bush so he helped sway the election yeah oh god that's his most successful endeavor i think ever that building that big stupid house yeah that's right that's america well america is his big stupid house rocking a kind of uh one of these uh like i think he's rocking a planet like a sort of one of those um more chic planet hollywood shirts we were talking
Starting point is 01:41:31 about that's right oh sure yeah he can he can make it work look at that weird chain too weird like snakes or something around i there's a there's a really i don't want to get on this tangent but there's a really crazy ad for a sylvester stallone pin and you watch it bad cgi he's all about the pens yeah oh is that a oh yeah yeah oh you know about the pens if you watch the expendables there's like one scene in every expendables where he's like signing the welcome to the expendables let me sign your contract and it's like a four thousand dollar skull pen wow everyone loves the paperwork sequences and the expendables yes i need to know how the arrangement starts to become an expendable i need to see lawyers looking it over and crisp close-ups i thought they were boring too till i saw these like totally sweet ass pens
Starting point is 01:42:20 wow scott adkins is putting on his reading glasses and taking out his official pen this might get me to watch him actually this does sound good um and then real quick here's robert earl uh rubbing trump's belly and uh and here he is with uh academy award winner kevin spacey at a planet hollywood event uh so you know he hobnobs with the greats uh he's he's he's wonderful i don't think though that he like in terms of like that bad of guy i i don't know i don't want to say either way uh you know you probably i should just stay out of this discussion entirely you never know what it's better other than it sounds other than him like i guess being like pear-shaped nothing sounds out of the ordinary and that was and that was a quote i have not said any fruit that i think he looks like here's trump there's
Starting point is 01:43:08 trumpet playing hollywood marla maples trump in all black everything look at the back and the backdraft jacket in the background that does appear to be a backdraft jacket in the background and a full cigarette ashtray oh man we used to be a proper country if he comes back in 2024 in the black turtleneck and a big black trench coat it's like oh fuck we might be done game over yeah yeah i know i've this i've never been so attracted to donald trump i have to say that was very bruce wayne that look again to go back to mostly you're attracted his proximity to the backdraft jacket is like wow this guy is really the center of power i know yeah no jealousy about uh being the president being having the nuclear codes being so close to that backdraft
Starting point is 01:43:56 prop um so so anyways um this guy is just such a funny character and i do think there's another quote from from uh from this this Los Angeles magazine article. And this again. All right. So the story that I'm building of that he is a I think he's a theme restaurant addict. This says a lot about him. So he started he initially did some restaurant called like the Beefeater. He tried a lot of British themed restaurants in America and in Orlando.
Starting point is 01:44:21 He invented and operated what he estimates as 300 different uh chain restaurants and theme eateries 300 three different uh in england and america with names like talk of london and medieval banquet wow yeah crown place just like whatever however i can read arrange royal words table works great uh he'd give you the thumbs up good keep going more more are any of these medieval times predecessors or not just just regular british food i think they're just more like pubs or like a place where you'd go where they would make the waiters wear like the big weird like what are the like, um, old British tutus?
Starting point is 01:45:06 You know what I'm saying? Like the name of it though. Um, like it would be like on a deck of cards, right? Like, and you're like, he's like,
Starting point is 01:45:14 uh, putting a big staff in the ground, kind of puffy pants thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yes.
Starting point is 01:45:19 Exactly. Yeah. Uh, so they humiliated, uh, their wait staff by making them wear stuff like that. Um, quote in all of these places, it's generally agreed the food was terrible.
Starting point is 01:45:29 Robert Earl is a very good brand developer, says Peter Romeo from Restaurant Business Magazine. Yet food is perhaps not his strongest suit. The dining room experience where the fork hits the plate, that's his weakest point. So besides the plate, besides what's on the plate in your restaurant, he's really good at restaurants. Which continues to be true because has anybody been to a Bucca di Beppo in the recent past? Not since we had to go for the City Walk saga. For the saga, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:02 No, I actually, to be honest i i only learned about it at all from your guys's podcast to be honest oh you didn't know the brand whatsoever no i don't know for some reason i just was not in my maybe i didn't grow up near them or something i don't know why for whatever reason it looks i love italian food uh then don't go to buca di pepe the place where like truly like i don't understand how you mess up garlic bread garlic bread like just slather butter or easy mac on bread like it's like any like just kitchen sink ingredients yes yeah yeah any market those are great throw it in the oven i don't know how they made such awful garlic bread. Just on Ventura, they could just drive down the hill from City Walk,
Starting point is 01:46:46 come back with the ingredients, and it would be like 10 times better. Kroger makes a serviceable frozen garlic bread. Just get that. Just put it right. Do you guys know the origin of the name? The name is so fascinating to me. I don't. Is it just like a city or something?
Starting point is 01:47:03 Huh. I don't know and he didn't he owns it now he didn't name it but i am curious in the the like yeah does that translate to something or well i know it plays a big role because one of the housewives bought into a location a location in encino or thousand oaks and i was happy to learn that they also mispronounce it in hilarious ways, much like I do. Okay. What do you say? Sorry.
Starting point is 01:47:29 He says pepo. Jason says pepo. I have said, which apparently translates to bee pole. And you've called it just bucca, which I like, because it's your friend. He tried to get around it. He tried to get around it. Yeah. Okay. I've got the answer here.
Starting point is 01:47:47 It's possible we've come upon this and all three of us have forgotten because that's happened a lot, I feel like, on the show. But it means my buddy's basement because I believe the first one was started in a tiny basement in Minneapolis. So loosely translating to my buddy's basement. Buka de Beppo. so loosely translating to my buddy's basement buca di beppo uh did anyone come across robert earl's recent endeavors kind of a horrifying epilogue to the planet hollywood story i mean i have something of that nature but uh i yeah you could if you if you want to read it is it about hollywood and vine yeah yeah let me here let me
Starting point is 01:48:25 let me build to it there's a little tease yes that's that's this is the story that i'm that i'm weaving here uh so anyways um uh planet hollywood starts they are uh booming um one thing to say we haven't said apparently there was in this time people were not keeping track of the movie memorabilia very well and you would think it'd be extremely expensive to get all this stuff. But in fact, like nobody cared at the time now auctions, like all this stuff's going for millions of dollars, but they collected all of these items so easily.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Like the ax from the shining. Apparently they found in the, in the garden shed of a guy who worked on the movie. It was just sitting around, all the fake blood on it. And the people collecting props for the place said, what do you want for it? And he said, well, I'll need another axe. And that's all I had to pay. Wow.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Replace the axe. I love this guy as I love him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think we could get the Dustin Hoffman shoes if we just sent them our shoes? Wow. Replace the X. I love this guy as I love him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think we could get the Dustin Hoffman shoes if we just sent them our shoes? Two for two. Yeah. Just a nice trade.
Starting point is 01:49:34 They're less scuffs. These shoes are better shoes. These are brand new shoes. Free of charge. So anyways, the chain gets off the ground. It's big right off the bat. Uh, people do love eating next to this stuff, taking pictures of it. As Jason said, Hard Rock Cafe, which he was currently working for.
Starting point is 01:49:53 He just outside of the company said, I'll do this other thing and start another thing without asking them. Hard Rock Cafe sues him. He's not deterred. I don't care. He called the lawsuit bullshit. That's again, theme restaurant addict. He has to do this. Uh, so now he He called the lawsuit bullshit. Again, theme restaurant addict. He has to do this.
Starting point is 01:50:06 So now he's part of Hard Rock and Planet Hollywood. How do we keep building this thing up? Gangbusters success. Stevie Wonder would go around and sing happy birthday to people if he was in the restaurant. Like if it was somebody's birthday and the waitstaff went like he would follow them around and i'm doing it too that's how like genuinely high wattage the star power was back then happy birthday the regular song over he's saying is happy birthday to you happy his specific happy version oh i don't know i mean it's a medley you get every type of happy birthday in there also how did he follow them around sorry oh um
Starting point is 01:50:45 i'm sorry on a jacket or something i'm not sure um so uh the the stars are there the events are huge they gather up more and more celebrities uh the company goes public and understandably because the company has so much value as jason said, the Orlando Planet Hollywood is the largest grossing restaurant in the world. They make $50 million a year. Yeah. Can you believe that? $50 million for one location, which was like a mammoth. I feel like they probably could fit like a thousand people at a time in there.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Yeah. And again, as we mentioned on the dive episode a lot of these themed restaurants it's split 50 50 food and drink 50 50 merchandise so they're just moving merchandise into orlando and vegas like crazy in washington dc or atlantic city uh who knows how much they were really moving oh so half the half the revenue from the orlando one you said i'm saying probably all of them the any of them like the a profitable themed restaurant will be like half food and drink half merchandise at least back in the day when they were really cooking um and we've seen how i was doing really good on both ends there yeah at its height it was
Starting point is 01:52:03 yeah yeah i mean we were talking about the jackets and also you mentioned the blue drinks earlier like i just have a very visual i feel like for some reason i feel like i i an inordinate number of friends of mine have that like my tie glass with the planet hollywood logo on it yes which is i don't have my friends don't have logos spread cups from many different places but for some reason i've seen that cup everywhere wow i don't know i know that sounds really specific but that's crazy i'm really jealous too i would like one for sure yeah i'll steal one for you next time yeah but yeah from one of your friends yes um So anyways, they go public. When they go public, the company is valued, at one point in time, is valued higher than General Motors.
Starting point is 01:52:54 I don't know how that's possible. But just billions of dollars this company is worth. But you go public, and now you owe things to shareholders. And you owe a certain amount of growth, which is why they started opening restaurants to such a crazy degree. And also, it all makes sense because when they do this, people show up in droves because they want to see the celebrities in Nashville. 40,000 people stood in 100 degree heat to see Lori Petty in Moscow. uh laurie petty in in moscow uh moscow it was such chaos that people were just like climbing up on parking garages and trying to get glimpses of people and somebody uh got himself into an unsafe position and fell off a rooftop and died there these things are such pandemonium that people are literally dying at them around the world they start going into the like the trash cities like myrtle beach and
Starting point is 01:53:45 niagara falls uh which those locations look so crazy the niagara falls one is essentially abandoned like all of the planet hollywood branding is off of it it's all it's just rotting away it looks like roman ruins just being reclaimed by natureons of dilapidated prop cars outside. Just like, I could see like just constructors throwing, like workers throwing like Armageddon spacesuits into the river and over the falls. It looks like suicides to passersby.
Starting point is 01:54:19 That's right. Is that spaceman okay? Oh, I should, Jeff Rubin, you know jeff rubin right yeah yeah he mentioned i told him i was doing this he's very excited he just oh great he mentioned uh his favorite thing that he saw at planet hollywood was um the space suit from the movie rocket man remember not the elton john rocket man it's uh who's the guy that's harlan williams yeah harlan williams rocket man so just it's a big inflated like fat space suit wow and it is in inflated it's like
Starting point is 01:54:53 so it's it you're looking at the version that's full of farts i think so i think it's like it looks it's like the funny one from when the like a chip blows it up or something um wow wow well thanks jeff for bringing that to our attention and thanks to our friend andrew grissom for loaning me a copy of rocket man on dvd five years ago that i still have not returned or watched uh i'll get around to that buddy yeah yeah now, yeah. Now that there's listener heat on me, I'm going to have to do something about it. So anyways, this thing is growing to probably this unsustainable level. And it's already becoming like the word is definitely out that the food is not good.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Because there's these openings that all of these top tier celebrities come to. And at the openings, they always get outside caterers to make all of the food they bring in food from other places we cannot possibly make tom arnold eat this slop so uh the that food reputation's getting out there um does robert earl uh say maybe we stop growing this as much maybe we try to make this all a little more sustainable no he wants more theme restaurants so with his own money outside of planet hollywood again he's always going around the back of the company that he works for he starts a new thing and that is called the official all-star cafe does anyone remember the official all-star cafe the sports restaurant i vaguely remember hearing about it.
Starting point is 01:56:25 I mean, the whole, the spinoff, the other themed restaurants that Planet Hollywood tried to start could make their own episode. I mean, we did cover Marvel Media before because they were involved in that. Yes, that's one. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Like not enough that we're like opening restaurants in Moscow and people are falling off of buildings. Uh, uh, we gotta be doing it.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Like every possible theme. Marvel is a go. Sports is a go. He gets Shaq and Wayne Gretzky and Ken Griffey Jr. involved. And, and he opened, they're open. And there's one of those in Times Square and Vegas and Cancun. Disney World had one of the wild, wild, wild world of sports area. But the thing that robert
Starting point is 01:57:05 earl didn't realize is that sports appeal is very regional so if you open a times square restaurant that shack endorses you're like i'm a nicks fan i don't like shack fuck shack why would i go to the shack place so these started failing right away immediately he bad news but he somehow still had like a 30 million dollar evaluation from the stock market so he's coming in hot even though these restaurants are all gonna be gone in a year like clearly but he's like well I need to rearrange things I have no choice but to dissolve this failing sports enterprise into Planet Hollywood
Starting point is 01:57:46 and therefore give myself more stock because my stock in the sports thing will now combine with Planet Hollywood, thus diluting the stock of Arnold, Stallone, Bruce, Demi. So his need to have this sports place also makes Arnold and Stallone all mad at him. We're not making as much money. And there's like a general downturn happening anyway. Like their profits. What year is this? We're talking like if the peak of it was 95, they made 12.7 million.
Starting point is 01:58:19 96, they made 4 million. In 96, their stock price was $32 and 13 cents by 99 it was one dollar that's how fast this plummet happened so this is like this is like some really insane version even more insane version of the big of the big short is what you're describing right now like yeah so much splashier money yeah much dumber dumber. Like, as opposed to, like, you got to really, like, stop and pay attention to the bonds and whatever. This is about Captain Crunch chicken. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:51 And the biggest stars in the world. I have a video clip here that kind of sums up America's attitude towards this celebrity's attitude. And it's not a person you normally think of being a voice of reason. Here we go. what do you think of this it's just getting crazy every one of these i go through it gets crazier yeah it's getting out of hand dude it's a lot to go through for a couple turkey burgers and a hat it's a lot to go through for a couple turkey burgers and a hat that's mark walberg talking to an e entertainment
Starting point is 01:59:26 reporter about the las vegas opening where uh whoopi goldberg is carried in on uh like cleo like like like cleopatra or something yeah yes and sylvester stallone rides a chariot pulled by a horse also disappointed to hear uh mark walberg of all people disparage burgers yeah really he would go on to just start a business a lot of trouble into doing exactly that and a massive reality show and he just made this other crazy reality show that's just kind of like a stockholders presentation for all of his various brands it's called wall street yes yeah but and there's a part where there's a wall street sign at the beginning and then spray paint paints out the the first l and turns it into an h and then it really is just
Starting point is 02:00:13 like a powerpoint but uh michael eisner appears in it very briefly so it's notable for that reporter was familiar too i can't remember his name but i that was a weird real real real uh flashback there for me yeah there's a there's a clip more clips of this online and the best is him talking to dan cortez who i believe is an mtv pj and they go like oh hold on uh take a step uh watch out uh mary tyler moore is walking behind but like they stay on dan the dan cortez interview and she just kind of waves yeah oh yeah this legend get it get inside yeah get inside yeah look we're going so long i apologize but the the just if we're talking about crazy mashups of celebrity culture and like this this
Starting point is 02:00:57 is what thank god all this happened and thank god robert had the theme restaurant addiction because we got magical moments like this in Berlin, Stallone, Gerard Depardieu and the Fugees hanging out together. Here's Drew Barrymore in the restaurant with a live tiger with a chain around its neck. Here's Steven Seagal and a terrifying Donnie Darko-esque bear in a crown. I'm glad you got the bear, too. Yeah, I got the bear. And in the wider shot, you can see the bear's t-shirt. Oh, there it is. It says Berlin
Starting point is 02:01:31 Groundbreaking. So this isn't even the opening. This is the groundbreaking with the bear. They pulled this together just to dig up a little dirt? That's right. Wow. Oh, there wasn't a... Stallone did something like that where he like plows through a concrete wall for one that never opened i forget where that was um he destroyed it that was not planned
Starting point is 02:01:51 well so i gotta start over now damn it is this fair some kind of berlin like is he like the king he's like berlin's official mascot or something it's possibly he's got a little crown on it could yeah it could just be a german thing where we're like what is this he's the state bear he's i'm very scared of him he's their country bear yes uh i didn't know seagal was uh allowed i always thought seagal like didn't get along with like the bruce willis's and the schwarzeneggers for some reason oh is he he's not an expendable he's not expendable he's like the only one yeah of that type yeah maybe well maybe they sent they only sent him to ground breakings the bear is actually uh in the expendables
Starting point is 02:02:34 they hand him a fancy pen he struggles with his paws uh let's go to sydney australia here's charlie sheen and a koala here's uh danny glover blowing a didgeridoo um with like a shirtless chalked up native kind of guy uh here's george harrison at the miami planet hollywood it does not square to me whatsoever that george harrison would have ever set foot in a planet hollywood much less worn this bizarre shirt that is so much like all the shirts we've been looking at today i was gonna say yeah he's got converse on too he's wearing he's got a suit with that shirt and then he's got converse on as well kind of cool these people that we've seen like the the danny glover george harrison are they like just going there to be
Starting point is 02:03:25 seen are they investors or a little bit of both well uh yeah it started as they would give agents and celebrities like shares in lieu of payment and then at a certain point it just got so big there they were saying like yeah we just need to invite them we just need to get them a hotel room or fly them like we don't need to pay them okay and there's probably not and there's not that many to give and by the time earl dilutes at all with his sports shares then like we can't like harrison was begging to get involved i bet yeah but there was no room for him um the here's uh ken griffey jr looking kind of like stressed out next to dale of Chip and Dale in a bomber jacket?
Starting point is 02:04:07 It's Chip. He's got the brown nose, doesn't he? Yeah, that is Chip. Like a chocolate chip. Yeah. Well, I think Ken's stressed out because of when All-Star Cafe is already failing at this point. Good to see you, Ken. It's me, Robert. Before you rock the red zebra carpet,
Starting point is 02:04:26 you have lost $10 million in the last month. All right, have fun with Chip. Off you go. Here's Penny Marshall in fatigues. What? Yeah, what's this? Did she do this a lot? She got the hat and the dog tags, too.
Starting point is 02:04:43 Maybe this is like the premiere of like, what's that Dan DeVito movie? Renaissance Man? Oh, maybe. Oh, interesting. That's a pure guess. Is that Laurie Petty? Or G.I. Jane?
Starting point is 02:04:55 Oh, oh. It might be Laurie Petty. Laurie Petty's Lumen Law. I got to catch up on. I've never seen Tang Girl. G.I. Jane was such a serious movie. It feels like this would be kind of, but who knows?
Starting point is 02:05:11 A little like, yeah, like she's back in premieres um and then what was my is this the last oh here's a here's james conn handing a child a giant machine gun while a baby looks on horrified this is like just a random photo in the middle of like los angeles here hide this for me kid um here's oh and this is the this is the highlight all right here we have uh bruce willis in a fuzzy hat and sunglasses and a cut off midriff revealing planet hollywood t-shirt uh with like his hairy chest hanging out he's got a harmonica uh he's got shorts kind of like riding a little too low to where we're going to start to see pubes and hanging off of him is anna nicole smith showing as much bare breast as can possibly be shown without nipple getting revealed right like there's like like that fabric is hanging on for dear life um and then in the next one they're sloppily making out whoa but he's got the he's got
Starting point is 02:06:15 the mouth organ in prime position he's got it ready to go you know with the microphone on and everything yeah he's not gonna look this look like these like they're kind of debauched and but they're both so happy this is either like these were taken either at the the highest peak of the restaurant success or like the day before they foreclosed does it have an air of like last day before the apocalypse like they're like celebrating like success or it's like berlin and it's all falling apart i'd like to think that all the celebrity investors all had sex together eventually big weird pile that's anna nicole and demi and sinbad and tom arnold he was married to
Starting point is 02:06:58 demi at this point i mean yes it's probably their stage going like what what is this it doesn't care i don't know this thing is really weird to me i don't know why am i yeah i'm like that seems more like nudity to me than what's going on with her breasts like i know exactly what you mean yeah the more egregious thing yeah a man's stomach, I guess. Not hit. Isn't that, like, amazingly, we've seen a lot of Stallone pictures, and that guy's, like, pretty cut. There's no body fat on that guy. I'm amazed this is what Bruce Willis looked like.
Starting point is 02:07:35 You wanted him to be more shredded. Yeah, I don't know if he's ever been, like, shredded like that. Maybe not, because that's not his vibe. Yeah. Yeah, I think, like, John McClane's, like, an everyman, you know, just a beat cop from New York. Yeah. That's true his vibe yeah yeah i think like john mclean's like an everyman you know just a beat cop from new york yeah that's true yeah yeah playing a harmonica and drinking wine coolers uh i've i've got a willis this was in esquire one of their photo collages um this is uh one of the other big gets where you're like i can't believe he's there but he's there in like the funniest fashion
Starting point is 02:08:05 uh it's jack they got wow wow you don't say that seems like too a little too big in a way yeah well here i'm trying to get the the photo up again uh he's got an open bottle of jack daniels and a full glass of it i'm just cigarettes hanging out too who's he with who's is that who's is that to me more that's to me that's to me and bruce yeah bruce at his at his hangout spot you know what is this photo like is this like 11 year olds collage no the esquire did the photos like it was a scrapbook oh i see it was pretty cool yeah i was not making fun of your uh photoshop skills apparently nelson mandela would show up to like truly like the hugest people on earth nelson mandela dined with harry belafonte and danny glover at the private room at the times square one the maryland room of course the maryland yeah yeah we all know i don't even need to say it we all
Starting point is 02:09:06 know in my brain like no matter who like bella fonte or nelson mandela like whenever they show up they come like leather jackets sunglasses shotgun and like john john john john john john the terminator thing yeah they played that through the entire restaurant yeah that's just like a rule you have to wear that and that music plays and then they all played individual harmonica solos go mandela go so anyways hedonism craziness the biggest stars in the world but it's starting to unravel every one of these restaurants cost a million dollars to build and then a million dollars to promote but again does robert turn around and slow the ship down no ahead we go marvel mania i say cool planet i say an ice cream store with a whoopee goldberg flavor and with no further elaboration in this article and apparently also a flavor
Starting point is 02:10:06 called blueberry more these existed there were a third street promenade had cool planet a plant the planet hollywood ice cream place i can't find any photos of this nobody bothered to document it um why why are we diluting things so much but surely he would stop there right no he decided what if there was a theme restaurant based around music and perhaps somebody should have said there already was that you worked for it you left that to do this no no i want one um and thus he opened a place called sound republic hard rock is, that's your grandpa's music themed restaurant. Sound Republic is the future. It costs $28 million to build the single location.
Starting point is 02:10:56 So how do you turn a profit from a restaurant that costs $28 million? So all of this to say, start unraveling there are way too many of these plant hollywoods they start closing every one of these spinoffs closes almost immediately uh the original founder keith barish left 2000 arnold arnold left you know they still get together to like give each other meatballs or whatever um he would not be back in one case he would not be back um they uh then they're asking him in this article what are you gonna do you gotta turn this thing around he says i know it's not called planet hollywood anymore it's called planet 2000 great that'll do it apparently that's what they did in miami they just changed it to planet 2000 that might have
Starting point is 02:11:46 george harrison may have set foot in planet 2000 in his life two locations in miami you know always good to have two just two just in miami so planet hollywood is different than planet 2000 oh i guess so i want that shirt i want planet 2000 sure that sounds like a limited edition kind of thing yeah they don't exist they exist at all that's two thousand dollars at least um this was in the year 2000 i assume probably almost yeah a lot of symmetry um anyway it was a weird year though because it was that and um fox was called fox 2000 for briefly and then right why brothers 2000 was just a movie they just called it 2000 in 98 way before 2000 that's right um and then the idea was like what if we get new cooler celebrities involved like ben affleck and in sync what if we steal in syncs money
Starting point is 02:12:42 okay do anything for you well it's no jacob sartorius but that'll come in time you know he's like not even probably wasn't alive probably not like he was i think his parents were like not even they were minors still i think at this point i looked him up he's 19 so yeah he was not alive he's 19 now yeah yeah jacob's if all the listeners are like god these guys are so ignorant i went through a huge jacob sartorius era well younger listeners probably know him but it would be weird if we were 36 year olds and like well of course we know jacob sartorius well one of us is like that that's true you are like that i thought you would have like come
Starting point is 02:13:27 across him in like the tween fest like product like like as a reference point what medium was he on was he like who fucking knows like vine or like uh uh meep mope something it's not around anymore like some like doomed like planet hollywood social media app they tried last minute. PH Plus. Yeah. Mike, what was the WWE one that they went in? Well, it wasn't theirs, but it was Tout. Tout, yeah. He might have been on Tout.
Starting point is 02:13:56 He might have been on Vine. Tout about Tout. Yeah. So, look, the wheels start coming off. They declare bankruptcy, a bit of the wobblies. And yet, this motherfucker manages to keep the brand alive despite two bankruptcies, despite losing the celebrities. We, of course, know it is still the casino.
Starting point is 02:14:18 The restaurants are still around a little bit. New ones are opening up. And not only that, he has not turned his back on new theme restaurants he is a theme restaurant addict we know about earl of sandwich we know about chicken guy with guy fieri and this brings us to what jason was alluding to a monkey's pearl a monkey's paw curled somewhere someone said like i wish we had something like planet hollywood and it paw curled somewhere. Someone said, like, I wish we had something like Planet Hollywood. And it just curled. And thus, but thus, you know, Robert's generation had to combine with the Sartorius generation.
Starting point is 02:14:54 And luckily, he had a member of the Sartorius generation in his own family. And that is his son. This is Robbie Earl. He has a kid now. And his kid opened a restaurant called the breakfast club there is a new generation of earl theme restaurant addiction the breakfast club is at hollywood and vine and it is described as a restaurant where influencers and vloggers eat regularly. Like a new media planet Hollywood with no proof. There's no pictures of Sartorius hanging out or whoever the hell is popular, any of these TikTokers.
Starting point is 02:15:35 You would think that would be important to a place that's all about social media and influencing to have a lot of documentation of it. Well, it's an authentic place where they can create content mike you know get yourself an 18 breakfast burrito you know the breakfast meal that's usually famous for being under 10 delicious mascot i feel like you have to mention the math yeah yeah what's the podcast what's up with this mascot um well he's a pre like uh these are real pre-nft is what he is he's like he's he was an ugly animal before
Starting point is 02:16:12 it was cool this is he's like a real like kind of sly perverted panda or something it's like a lounging stone panda rubbing a nipple with his big paws he's rubbing his own tummy like robert was rubbing trumps do they only serve breakfast here uh i think they do i think they're only open in the morning and then you and you know just kind of like basic stuff like here's the pancake platter uh you know just and they got some toppings and stuff and it's so it's a couple pancakes with syrup and butter and it's only 24 dollars reasonable price for what you can make at home for 60 cents it comes on a big piece of wood though yeah that's true i'm intrigued by that piece of wood i don't think you get to keep it but i i'm
Starting point is 02:16:56 interested why it's this like it's not a plate it's a slab that was for that was touched by harrison ford and clear and present. It's from the old collection. You have to bid on these meals. I would like to go here. I would like to go here soon. Yeah, you want to go? Well, it's at Hollywood and Vine, Mike. And I believe they also...
Starting point is 02:17:17 I love going to Hollywood and Vine. You love that famous cross-section. I believe they also implied that robert earl may have helped uh create uh helped with the developing 1600 vine which i think not 100 sure i believe it's the apartment building where all the content creators all the vine people used to live in one apartment wow really building and now i'm sure they've pivoted to tiktok or whatever but uh it is right around the corner i had to find a new avenue that was called tiktok just to make the symmetry go on yeah wow i think this this proves though that robert earl if we could get
Starting point is 02:17:58 a hold of him would maybe do a podcast venture oh god guest restaurant oh you're right oh interesting oh he's gonna launch our oh yeah i mean like what would be called would be called like rate and subscribe like eat and subscribe or that's good yeah um it would depend i mean if it's a full restaurant yeah i mean i guess you could go niche it could be ice cream like planet or whatever the name of the planet hollywood ice cream place was i already forgot cool planet like there'd be like a i mean there'd be like a joe rogan burger and like a yeah but but if dax shepard's fries they would all be there but if we want to stay within the like you know stay with how robert likes to do it the hamburger would just be called hamburger with fries and it would be uh just the grilled cheese
Starting point is 02:18:46 it would be and then you would see dax would at least be on the red carpet once but the cocktails would all be themed though yeah cocktails would be named after podcasts the spooky mental haunted house yes to whitney cummings tweet defending joe rogan a reference that will only make sense this very week enjoy it you get a sampler a sampler of different shooter a sampler of like shots or little tasting like a tasting thing that says like every podcast all three every podcast has three hosts who look like this you know that funny picture that's very funny oh it's so funny keep sending it folks accurate we all know who's who it's clear you all have the same answer for it um uh the shot glasses should be little stars like for your to get your five stars that we all need so much on it this is
Starting point is 02:19:41 this is the bone marrow of podcasters give us our stars or we collapse one of you guys has if one of you guys if you guys get invited to this an opening as podcasters yourselves you have to like one of you has to come with a harmonica or something oh yeah i thought you're gonna say has to wear a big belly shirt and i'll do it show some redress i'll wear i'll wear i'll wear fatigues and a belly shirt to the opening that's a guarantee and a weird fuzzy hat and sunglasses and bring a uh change tiger as your date podcast restaurant is a legit good i mean sure context of this conversation is a legit good idea good idea. Yeah, right. It's right now here in this arena. I mean, this guy made, according to all,
Starting point is 02:20:29 it'll be a good idea for like five years and crash horribly, but you'll get a couple of good years. Sure. There could be like a sundae that's just vanilla ice cream, marshmallow fluff, and whipped cream, and it says a group of white men is called a freaking podcast. That's another evergreen joke that no one ever gets sick of hearing yeah it's look i think robert because scott is saying has an addiction to getting restaurants so
Starting point is 02:20:59 i think he's gonna you got to give the addict a fix is what I'm saying. So we get in front of him and we go, Robert, do you listen to podcasts? And he goes, of course I do. Paul D. You mean Paul D. Paul D. Yes. That's what I call them. As a normal shaped man, you must appreciate podcasts.
Starting point is 02:21:21 As someone who does not resemble any particular fruit an unflattering fruit the normal shaped man i mean it is shocking that stallone schwarzenegger or willis has not made an unlistenable vanity podcast yet have they oh you're right maybe we just missed it who that's a good question i don't know i don't think so but it's possible it feels like that's coming this year like it feels like the wave of like didn't someone i don't think so but it's possible it feels like that's coming this year like it feels like the wave of like didn't someone really isn't tom hanks doing a podcast oh boy he's probably more i'm sure he's more compelling as a podcaster than i would think so yeah but it's the beginning it could be the beginning of a train he's doing a band of
Starting point is 02:22:00 brothers podcast okay so it could be the beginning of a wave of a-list podcasters i mean i look i would like if all of the planet hollywood investors all started a podcast network the planet hollywood podcast network what do you call it was a ho ho or whatever spendables podcast now on p oh yeah wait yeah yeah please wait what was it play ho please yeah uh planet hollywood play ho uh the playo podcast network and every time a new episode drops there's a lavish opening there's tigers and koalas everywhere the eye can see every episode we need this blockbuster the culture to come back we miss it we don't know who's a star anymore i don't know who's popular i don't i've missed sartorius entirely we need to give the ball back to our betters the 90s celebrities they were the best at movies and
Starting point is 02:23:00 the best at blues harmonica and may and if if everything's moving to podcasts then they need to as well i agree i think that we'll send an email to robert earl and we'll have a plans drawn up for a podcast network and a series of 80 chain restaurants by next week and if we can time it correctly then we that we could make it out of this endeavor with 20 million dollars each or we all personally lose 20 20 million dollars quickly sell the stock quickly is this is what we have to do yeah yeah we'll get we'll get the the queen of versailles guy to help us uh you know funnel our money into something yes uh hide it hide it. We'll only, we'll be paid in credit. We can only redeem at the Planet Hollywood Resort
Starting point is 02:23:50 in Goa, India, which, yeah, they've got deals for monsoon season. That's the summer and monsoon season seems to be their busy times of year. Oh, wait, so wait, yeah, I wish, so if you never canceled the credit card would it still be a valid credit card you think i think yeah i don't i i i do wonder about that or would it have just transferred to like you know whatever bank was backing it would it have just been like oh
Starting point is 02:24:18 it's a visa you know at wachovia now yeah yeah i would hope uh if you're not getting the logo on there you're that's that's a loss yeah and if you can't get the reward if you can't convert rewards to merchandise you know i'd be disappointed all your bucks go to like all-star grill whatever already is all-star did any of those survive like can i go to like one random one that's still you know like there's still one blockbuster that exists like is there still one all-star grill is there still a planet movies the combination project with amc theaters oh yes in columbus ohio if any listeners are from there that looks unbelievable they did a big open it was like this was a massive complex that was a planet hollywood restaurant and planet
Starting point is 02:25:01 movies by amc of of 30 Screen Movie Theater and the All-Star Sports Cafe. There was all of this together next to each other in Columbus, Ohio that was opened up by Kelsey Grammer and Shaq all holding up big movie tickets. This is where you can come
Starting point is 02:25:19 to see the next Kelsey Grammer flick. That's a real the one you feed which wolf comes out of you everyone is a kelsey grammar in a shack grammar app announced the intro but immediately fell off the stage and broke his ankle kelsey stop doing these events exactly again come on scan the stage before you walk on it uh uh pet it's been so fun to have you any any closing thoughts have you is this invigorated you are
Starting point is 02:25:53 you like uh do we all need to uh go bang down the doors of the times square restaurant and get in there again and party i mean if it's genuinely closed forever i i would be sad i actually did like it because like i said before it's just like i mean the food i don't really care the food's it's not good but almost none of the food in time square is good so it's really just about what's what you're looking at around the food um and yeah i mean it was such a i i would happily bang down the door because i just feel like it is such a um it's just it's you know i'm sad that it's it failed so spectacularly but i'm glad that it did at the exact moment it did because it frozen in time in this like late 90s thing which is just so much of my heart is that like it accidentally
Starting point is 02:26:46 is a museum to be my favorite time in movie history yeah yeah like they they didn't think it was going to be a tribute to that and only that but that's how it ended up and like hey it's yeah it's when uh hollywood was still on top and things were expensive and crazy and loud and um yeah and you know what there's just enough of it left that's what i like like unlike a lot of these places we're going to talk about this month are gone and completely all-star cafe to answer your question is gone completely but that one uh i mean as long as one or two of them hold on it's a bummer if uh if times square is gone but we're rooting for you, Times Square. Yeah. If I see it open when I walk by there,
Starting point is 02:27:29 I will go in and send you guys a photo or something. Please. Please do. Well, just book plane tickets for us, and we'll pay you back. Okay. We'll want to get it right there ASAP. Well, this was such a blast.
Starting point is 02:27:44 Pat Castles, you survived podcast the ride what an awesome uh chat thanks for giving us your time here of course thank you i hope this was great oh yeah so so much fun uh let's exit through the gift shop is there anything you'd like to plug uh sure uh full frontal samantha b uh is at this as as of this season we're on thursday nights now at 10 p.m all right so tune on tbs so tune in there have you ever um been involved how about oh here's a question on that show or college humor is there any is there like a is there a prop or something that you would be proud to donate to a plant if you had to represent some of your work in such a facility i uh i don't know i mean weirdly i i uh college humor uh i visited the new york office kind of before
Starting point is 02:28:35 they kind of they let go of unfortunately had to let go of a lot of people within the last couple of years but i visited the new york office and uh they had like a lot of the old props that from my time that i felt i felt like methuselah coming in there being like oh like like those are like the old dorm room and i graduated 10 years ago or whatever but um i was shocked i couldn't believe that a room that like a lot of the old weird props like we had a tv show on mtv like for like a week back in the early in the late 2000s oh a viacom television show that should be readily available still to this day yeah can i do okay so we got the podcast restaurant we got the influencer restaurant third restaurant is like different like and i think you could
Starting point is 02:29:18 probably donate some stuff here too is like late aughts early 2010s internet comedy restaurant. The kings of dot comedy era, of course. Exactly, yeah. Some super deluxe merch. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll correct, you know, I'll call my friends at Funny or Die and go get the forehead to tase, Marion Cotillard's forehead to tase. The baby from the landlord.
Starting point is 02:29:52 The baby from the landlord yeah that's the physical baby yeah yeah yeah yeah mckay i'll send her over um yeah well all right we'll start that too the king kings of comedy the restaurant uh uh wait did i cut off your your uh uh your pluggery though uh samantha b on thursdays 10 p.m full frontal um and on my instagram handle is just pat castles my one word that's it fantastic awesome yeah and of course all these future restaurants at some point of course yeah you know we are pre-plugging these things once they're up and running and failing in seven years uh as for us uh we'll put up a lot of these pictures and videos and garbage. There'll be too much bonus content, I think, on our Twitter, where you can follow all the celebratory happenings at Podcast The Ride.
Starting point is 02:30:34 You can also go to said Twitter to find out about tickets to our upcoming live show in Brooklyn or visit thebellhouseny.com. And for the full celebratory episode lineup, including the recent irresistible episode, Alan Hale's Lobster Barrel, check out Podcast the Ride, the second gate
Starting point is 02:30:54 at patreon.com slash podcasttheride. You know, we talk about rides here everywhere, but there's nothing, suddenly there's no ride that I care about
Starting point is 02:31:04 as much as the, what was it? The deal them up appetizer. The high roller sampler. I just want to be on a big one of those, like in a spinach and artichoke dip. And that's what I'm going to dream about tonight. I'd like to keep it as is. Not plus it up or demolish it. I want to keep the appetizer wheel as is.
Starting point is 02:31:27 Thousand percent. Yeah. It's perfect. Thank you, Robert, for everything. It's perfect. You're perfect.
Starting point is 02:31:33 Let's all say thank you, Robert, at the same time. One, two, three. Thank you, Robert.
Starting point is 02:31:40 And one more harmonica blast too. Yeah. Oh, sure. Right. Hold on. It's for Bruce. For Bruno. For Bruno Bruno It's on fun time
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