Podcast: The Ride - P:TR Post Office (plus Scott’s Special Book)

Episode Date: December 9, 2022

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FOREVER! DOG! Plus a special little Scott story on Podcast the Ride, a theme park podcast that does not cook our books to make our Patreon seem more successful than it is. I am Scott Gairdner. I'm committing no illegal activity, and I have not any time recently. And also being honest about our numbers is Mike Carlson. Yes, I'm very honest about our numbers. A lot of people only like us because of the success we have. A lot of listeners are like... That's our currency, yes.

Yeah, so they're like, I don't want to listen to this show. I don't give a shit if it's funny. I just want to know that these guys are really doing it, and they're very popular and successful. So no, it's all legit. We're not pumping up numbers. We're not. And we need to and the numbers need to be good to ensure that we will continue to be the hosts of this podcast and don't get yanked all of a sudden because people want to keep hearing Jason Sherrod in the third host. And look, I like the YouTube.

I love good numbers and metrics and charts. I am scratching my head if there was a recent news story that I should be aware of that this is directly referencing. Well, look, it's a stretch. I mean, it's true, first of all, but it's a little bit parallel with what's been going on what we found out was going on with mr chapek that uh there was some some some hanky-panky going on with uh uh putting it in the uh um what do you call it like like the shows would air yeah that technically all right like the new doogie howser is gonna get called a disney channel show and not a Disney Plus show. So that like the numbers even it was just like putting things in different buckets to just prop up Disney Plus as much as he could.

Which seems like the kind of thing that everybody would immediately rat him on as soon as he's out of the company. Right. That's what happened. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I always heard that called uh monkey accounting uh like it's a fine hollywood tradition is like allocating funds you know

shifting money around sure sure i had the phrase hanky panky ready to go And that is not because of any early 2010s websites that I may have made content for. It is not that term. I don't know where it came from. I don't know. I've only worked for places that are on the up and up and including podcast The Ride. So look, today we are opening up the PTR post office. And that is a big chunk of a segment that we recorded a little while ago all together in person. But we're doing a little prelude right now back on Zoom, and that is because the final good boy has fallen. We are completing the trilogy of all of us getting covid and if you weren't keeping track that is me scott uh i'm i'm closing it out i the i i'm honored to be the rise of skywalker of all of us getting covid the the the perfect ending that ties it all together connects all the loose

ends you're like wow it really all it all makes sense now the story of them all getting covid right and i'm force awakens and jason is of course the most divisive host and also last jedi of course it makes perfect sense that that's he's number eight or he's the second one in the trilogy last jedi jason is the last jedi of hosts of podcast the ride because it's just it's a rorschach jason is a rorschach test for whatever your pre-existing beliefs are so yeah that makes a lot of sense to me i am i i do sometimes worry about being divisive that's why i occasionally find myself giving things like a little credit or a little benefit of the doubt um yeah all media

a lot of media, everything keeps getting worse and worse. So that's doing that less and less, you know. I find it shocking, honestly, how many people are still furiously angry at Jason for things that he did five years ago. In 2017, yeah. It's been a long time,

but people still manage to be furiously angry at it. I think people should give Jason a break. I agree. But there's people that have also made Jason their whole personality. So that's the other side of it, too. You can't reverse. You can't go all the way back. Yeah, it's both ways.

Makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Well, these all line up pretty well, I think. Yeah, I agree. Look, and point is, you know, even if the COVID was not good, I only found out this morning. And if the COVID was really bad, I wouldn't even be doing this, this joking and gesturing, even in a Zoom format. You guys see me? I'm not lying down.

I didn't rig up a microphone upside down. I'm not lying down. I didn't rig up a microphone upside down. I'm sitting upright. It's really minor, and it's just an inconvenience more than anything. Well, that's obviously good. It's going fine besides the irritants of having to tell people that I have. I didn't have to tell the listener. It's just something to talk about. Just give them an update.

In honesty, we're honest about what's talk about uh and honesty we we're honest about what's going on with us and we're honest about our books we're honest about everything that's true uh um but i guess this current uh stuff the cold weather spike is real so uh get that boost everyone i i suppose be careful out there yeah yeah um it's a real thing. But there is, just to kind of flesh out this post office episode, I wanted to talk about something that is cooler, a cooler thing that happened to me than getting COVID. All the way on the flip side. And I've been looking for an opportunity to bring it up.

And I think this is a good one. I think it'll cheer me up given what's going on. And it kind of relates to last week's episode, which was All-Star Resorts with Jaquese Neal, which was a lot of fun, fun topic. And he is great. And I really enjoyed that one. And it was fun to think about the All-Star Resorts for a little while. And among the things, among the non-9-11 things that came up in that episode, were the, it was really brief. I mentioned the architects of those resorts. And also of the soon-to-be-not-FTX arena in Miami.

And these architects, the firm is called Architectonica. And I really like saying it. And I like saying it again right now. And when I noted that fact, Architectonica, who built those resorts, the source on Wikipedia for that was a book. And the book is called Building a Dream, The Art of Disney Architecture. And it's by Beth Dunlop. And it's a book that came out that Disney put out in like 98, 99 or something. And when I learned that there was this book, I got very excited because I love Disney architecture. I like any opportunity to read the names of these people who built the,

especially the hotels in Eisner era that I think are so stunning to this day. I like reading about Michael Graves and Robert A.M. Stern and Robert Venturi and Wing Chow. It makes me happy to think about these architects. It makes me happy to wander around the places that they built that are such like it's especially like time travel to 80s Disney to, you know, like that I fell in love with as a kid. So I'm like, I got to get this book. I'm going to get this book. And here now, this is my copy of Building a Dream by Beth Dunlop. And I like the book in general. The book is full of dramatic stories and really like Eisner heavy stories,

which is exactly what I wanted. There's the like, as soon as I got it, as soon as I opened it up, I go straight to the section about the swan and the dolphin, which are some of my favorite pieces down in Orlando. And it's a super dramatic section about, like, Eisner took over in 1984, and it's only his second day, and he can't sleep. And it's not because of Disney's plummeting numbers

or like we need some bigger box office hits. He's upset because he saw a presentation about two hotels they were going to build in Disney World and he thought they stank. He thought they were so boring and Disney like, you know, like this is an empire. We need to be building like impressive. We need to be like the Romans, like build real feats.

And he had seven sleepless nights. And then a week later, he said, it's off. We're killing those. We're going to get a bunch of the best architects in the world to come down. And we're going to build something impressive. And that became the swan and the dolphin. I'm getting a tear in my eyes. You tell me this tale.

Isn't this? This is, I mean, the young go and the dolphin. I'm getting a tear in my eyes. You tell me this tale. Isn't this, this is, I mean, the young go getter. We focus so much on the later years on the, the ousted years. And you know, this is our guy.

This, this is why he's not just some guy saying hello to us before some specials and acting very stiffly. He's the guy who's trying to change the skyline for the better. It's a chronicled in the in the Disney war book too. And it's very thrilling. Uh-huh. Oh,

that's in there too? Because of, yeah, some of the, the hiccups along the way, getting the Swan and Dolphin built. Oh, really?

Okay. This is like when Admiral Holdo uses the ship in Last Jedi. This is like a big dramatic moment where where the course of history has changed forever. Yeah. Yeah. So in the equivalent, the cinematic equivalent of Jason getting COVID. Yes. All right.

All right. One of my favorite memories of 2022. It's funny we all got it this year. Also, we're, we're in the clear for the first two years of this motherfucker. And then all of us, and like evenly spaced out too. I realized like,

cause Mike was April. Jason was like August. And now I'm right at the top of December. We gave ourselves, we spaced it out. We didn't want the audience to get fatigued with us being fatigued mine's the only one that makes sense honestly because i was like i didn't do anything and then i did i went out and then i got it so i didn't dodge it at all i didn't dodge it at all i got

hit right in the face stepping outside you like the biggest like chance that you took yeah as opposed to me who i i i don't know it might have been one guy coughing in a chipotle i die that's my best guess yeah one lot of people coughing right now a lot of coughing going on flu numbers are up rsv is up you know i yeah well that's the you know i can't it's not it's very generic advice to say get the booster and i suspect a lot of listeners already have uh but it so i i instead will say just in case if you're in a restaurant where somebody's weird and coughing just run out of the restaurant deal with the food later maybe they won't pick it but like i should have left as soon as i heard that's really what happened

i don't know it's it's one guess that I have when did you when were you in the Chipotle with the coughing person uh um that was on Thursday so could have been and I don't want to spoil it it was it was in the middle of doing research for an episode we haven't put out yet oh I don't want to go giving away what brought me to the North Hollywood area. A real tease for the adventures. Yeah, interesting. But I risked life and limb to do it, to eat a burrito bowl. Anyway, to get back to why I bring all this up, I'm not just like trying to read stuff from the book.

Well, I am going to read something very specific from the book, and it's not something written by Beth Dunlop, the author. It's a little something extra that I suspect is only in this copy, which, by the way, I bought randomly on eBay and even bought the cheapest version that was available on eBay. And it happened to it's just normal book. And I'm flipping through and I'm telling I'm regaling Aaron with these tales of Eisner lore and then all of a sudden turn the page and I'm like the front blank page and

I'll put it up to the screen here there is a very inscribed like calligraphy note and I will read this note Harrison thank you for your contribution in making the Disney Studios so special in our world.

And then this note is then signed by three people and it's signatures. So it's not the easiest to make out. But I went backwards because like this is curious. What is the story here? This is like maybe a special copy, potentially. And one of the signatures I can make out pretty well down in the lower right or lower left there. I see an R.

I see an E. Roy E. Disney? I had a Roy E. Disney right there. Wow. I mean, I'm pretty confident. Like, you saw it. It's a period after the E. You know, it's a big flourishy Disney D. It's not the Disney D, but, you know, when you're a Disney,

you probably take some liberties with your D. You got to get fancy with it. Take some D liberties. Yes. So I'm like, wait a minute. That's got to be Roy E. Disney. Who are these other names? So one of them is much easier to make out, but it's a name that I've never heard. The name is Sandy Litvak. And then I look up Sandy Litvak Disney. Sandy Litvak was like a legal counsel to the company. He joined in 1991. He became the senior vice president. And then in 1994, he was named senior executive vice president. That's a bunch of qualifiers.

In that role, taking over many of Frank Wells' duties after Frank Wells' death and later became vice chairman of the board. So, like, wait, I've never heard of this guy but in this era when this book was signed he essentially was the new frank wells wow which makes him the number two of the company right yeah um nobody's ever come across sandy litvack or is he in disney war do you know about old sandy yeah sandy litvack is a big character in disney war and i forget what crazy thing he was responsible for um i he might have been a roy he was either a pro roy guy or an anti-roy guy and i i cannot remember which somehow like balancing against uh roy yeah it's one or the other yeah there was so many shareholder uh revolts or were different different uh factions going on and I feel like his

name came up in one of those huh huh well you know a new guy to learn about Sandy Litvak we'll figure out we'll know all the we'll do a Sandy Litvak episode at some point but then I then I get to thinking like wait a minute if this is a trio of names, uh, the last one's very hard to make out, but given the pattern, Roy E. Disney, the essentially new Frank Wells, there is one more. Uh, I mean, yeah, look, you might know the end of this story, but that last one, I mean, that looks like an E to me. And Aaron, who is, uh, you know, along for the ride,

she's like, let me look up a certain person's signature. And she does, and it's immediately a match. Ding, ding, ding. This book is signed by Michael Eisner. Whoa. Yes. The full trilogy, with no indication of any of this. This was a very random eBay purchase, as I mentioned.

Pretty cheap. Yeah, there you have it. A holy trinity. And then especially, hello. Hello, himself. Yeah, yeah. How about that? Now he's going to have to come on the show.

Yes. He'll find this so special. We were turned down multiple times, but now this book that's come into your possession. What a talking, what a piece. He has to talk about it. Yeah, it's really something. Well, look, it's about stuff. The book is so largely about stuff that he did and great gifts that he commissioned for the world to beautify the world. And in addition, this gift itself, the man actually touched.

I am touching something that greatness touched. I wish I could pass it around, but we're on Zoom. But I'm a little relieved because I suspect that the three of us could end up like the three men in the comic book from the early Simpsons episode. Oh, yeah, good point. You don't want to show us that. Yeah, yeah. Now we're vying for custody of it and we're tearing it apart

and then no one has the book. Yeah, lock that up. We can't be trusted around a book signed by Michael Eisner. Yeah, look, I trust you guys in general, but I understand. In a special case, I would expect you to go rabid in the presence of this. The COVID is fake because you just wanted to be able to show us on Zoom

to make sure that the book wouldn't be stolen. Damn. No, no, no. Look, I'm honest about everything, and I will show you a positive test result if you give me about an hour. And don't mind me. I'm not pulling up Photoshop. I'm looking for the results that are in an email somewhere.

One more bit of this tale. Then I start thinking, who is Harrison? Oh, yeah. Good question. Who is an important Disney Harrison? And I've got a really solid candidate. Because when you look up Disney Harrison, you find Harrison Buzz Price. And this name may have come up on the show. I mean, I think so.

Because if you get the big dogs out to all sign the book and give them a special calligraphy copy, I feel like it has to be. Harrison Buzz Price, if you don't know, a Disney legend, and the guy who, the boring thing to say is that he ran feasibility studies to see, like, to examine different markets and to see, like, what locations might be a fit for some of the endeavors the Disney company was doing.

Long story short, that means he picked the Anaheim spot for Disneyland. He picked the Orlando spot for Disney World. I think he was part of Tokyo as well. Wow. Yeah. And plus all of these, like, he crunched the numbers on some of these weird things they didn't do, like text position, the attempt at a Texas, like, mall slash theme park.

Wow. Texas mall slash theme park in maybe the 70s or 80s. And this Burbank thing, I believe he worked on. The thing I'm obsessed with where the whole Burbank mall and beyond could have been this Disney pseudo theme park with a great movie ride. That's got to be it, right? Yeah, for sure, I think. Here's what I'll say this. Go back to eBay and go to the eBay store you bought things from and see what else is on there.

Oh, that's a good call. Buzz Price, I looked it up just now, died 12 years ago. So who knows who this person is just cheaply dumping, you know, Disney stuff signed by all these people. God, you're right do you know about the even closer connection to buzz price from your past from my past no yeah buzz price designed the universal studios glamour tram oh my god that sounds really familiar this must have come up before oh my god i think help them in the 60s

where they're like we could bring the tours back like help them develop uh when when i believe uh the owner of universal at the time was the biggest one or at least one of the biggest uh you know proprietors of tours in amer. Just the concept of tours. Oh, right. Oh, this all sounds super familiar. But yeah, wasn't it like the trams were like this fun, like kind of like Pepto Pink.

Like they were sort of like kooky pastel 60s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he, God, he, wow. So I owe this guy, I owe him two summers worth of minimum wage salary for setting up one of the best places I ever got to work. And through some odd set of circumstances, I ended up with a personalized book from his library. Like just that fact of it all, besides the signatures. I mean, I can't help but talk about these things in a, you know, I feel like I have to do it in sort of a bit adjacent way.

But like I did grow the way I grew up loving the company and loving the Eisner era and loving books like this. Like, I'm amazed I didn't have the book because I had a bunch of other like Disney coffee table books. And I would have loved this at the time but i'm glad i didn't have it at the time because i ended up with the ultimate copy wow it does like honestly move me to have this i sure i mean could who knows what other books with signatures from executives you could still find out there and like really complete all your dreams whoa yeah is that like what happened to Lee Iacocca's library? It's out there. I bet it's out there.

Yeah. Who's like Bob Wright from GE? If people aren't tracking their, you know, if you've got a dying executive in your life, make sure that their library is properly tended to because you never know this is my premise this is my premise for action figures where there's always something somebody would be a completist about and i think we figured it out for scott it is disney executive signatures in books from the personal libraries that's what i know i got a taste now i'm like i'm hooked i can't stop here. I'm jonesing. I'm going to tease this because I don't think I've ever.

I have an artifact in this vein that in the future, I'll say this. In 2023, I will show off my artifact. Wow. Wow. We have a Jason artifact to come um it's it's uh it's kind of similar not dissimilar to what you found i don't want to talk about now and steal your thunder because that's such a cool find uh uh just coming in the mail like that's just a rock you had to buy that from someone and it had to get

shipped to you like that's such a crazy thing copy i could have picked other copies but my my cheapness paid off and i'm going to go pick the second cheapest copy because sometimes what happens is we talk about an out of print book on this show and then the episode comes out and then it becomes even harder to find because people buy it. So, we're so successful. The audience buys stuff up. That's what we were saying earlier on. Got the PTR bump, and people are going to want to keep scouring Harrison Buzz Price's private collection. I have a different artifact that I have not figured out how to approach an episode about.

Multiple artifacts? Multiple artifacts. Jason, whatever these artifacts are, I think half the audience is going to think they're the greatest and half the audience is going to think they're a huge letdown. Michael, you're 100% right. Page turners, they are not.

We'll find out who falls on what side. Well, that's a good tease and given given the way 2022 has gone i think that we should not tease or promise much more than artifacts because as we have learned in exact thirds throughout the year sometimes plans need to be changed as diseases are required. But, yay, here's hoping to good health for you guys and hopefully me tomorrow. And, of course, to the listeners who now,

well, look, we recorded this in the past, so I know that there was no airborne COVID in the PTR post office. All the letters were opened successfully. Yes, yes. And no diseases were passed on no but if the if the video version survived uh the uh you there is a footage of me in a very loud hawaiian shirt because i ran from my house from doing the zoom audition for

that hulu commercial that ended up coming out oh yeah and didn't have time to take off that Hawaiian shirt. Oh, that was it. Wow, wow. You were giving them a mental image of you in a Hawaiian shirt and they said, sign us up for more. Yep. Well, that's beautiful. Boy, that's a Hawaiian shirt that paid off.

Good news for you. This book, good news for me. It offsets the less good news. But, you know, OK, so so here we go. We're going to pass it over to this post office. I'm going to rest up because we've got a big Feliz Navidad the way of winter ahead of us. And I want to be in in tip top shape. But all right. So now now audience, you take over with your questions. Alright, the PTR post office is open.

It's not a mail bag. We don't open a bag. We open a door. Let's get the keys out. Jingle, jingle. Oh, right. Which one is it? No, not... There's so many keys on this thing. It's impossible. This is Santa's mail sack. This is our post office.

Which we did, yeah. We did a mail sack. Right. Yeah, if you're tracking them. Sometimes it's a sack. Right, but not today. No sacks are being opened today. Just a post office which is full of sacks.

You filled the sacks. Right. Thank you for filling our sack. Oh, my God. And now we're going to open the sacks now that we've opened our sack oh my god and now uh we're gonna open the sex now that we've opened the post yes great okay um if you'd like me to explain it more what we're doing confuse the audience with some lewd double entendres please this is a ninth one on the tenth one they'll understand yeah they're gonna I really, I'm rooting for you guys.

I think you're going to get the premise of an episode where you ask us questions. They're questions usually on point, but I think they'll really get it. All right, who's seeing anything you'll like? Let me see. Here we go. What would be, this is from famouslyouslyChillDude at TweetsForHotDogs. What would be the PTR experience a la The Late Show with Jimmy Kimmel ride, which I think means the Jimmy Fallon ride.

Is that a purposeful combining of every... I guess, because The Late Show is Colbert. Colbert. Colbert. And Colbert is not Kimmel. And I think this might be a little prank. Is this a prank? Have we been pranked? We have a question for you.

Are you pranking us? But the PTR experience, okay. Well, it depends on is it set at the Forever Dog studios or is it in my garage? Well, is that where the queue is? Oh, maybe. The queue is multiple rooms. It's like the Secret Lives of Pets queue where you go through all the apartment rooms. So you start in Mike's living room and then you go your garage, and then you end up in a studio.

Oh, I see. Okay. So all the iconic places. All the locales. Right. You pass by. You get to look at but not touch Mike's toys. You get to admire Leonardo's tail dick.

Yes. You get to step over Jason's, and by that i mean jane's dog um we say our dog now it's our day yeah he is on the ground taking a little nap little dog so yeah all the real world things would be in the queue i think that's what jason's saying but then the ride itself i mean if we're talking budget i'd like to blue sky this i'd like to say this is going to be a high ticket a big budget rise of the resistance level budget yeah yeah so i think at this point we're going to use um the best ride system available which is a transformer's ride system spider-man ride system yeah sure okay so it's going to have don't even put spider-man it's clear we know it as the

transformer's ride system the iconic spider-man's uh invented the ride system transformers perfected it is the way i perfected rides in general perfected rides in general um so i think it's going to be yeah there's going to be like a little practical sets moving in and out of screens uh because we need the motion and at that point i think you're going to go through our whole lives. You're going to start as little boys and we're going to sort of see what went wrong. What went wrong that started this whole podcast,

this whole mental illness that we have. Well, we're now in kind of a, you could have doors opening up a la Tower of Terror, which maybe I thought of that because there's a little girl at the end of the hallway right but it's so it's the holograms of us and like the fatal choices that I don't know what mine is it me like wow mom the 1993 Disney shareholders annual report and then it's me not going into the twilight zone but going into the unrelatable zone

that is the choice way i made where but for many decades he'll be trapped there and people will not his peers won't be able to talk to him because he reads shit like this uh mine could be like uh me showing a girl uh that i had printed out the entire return of the jedi script right when i first got a computer. And she went, what? Why do you have that? And I was like, oh. And then I go into the Unrelatable Zone.

You were walking around with a full paper. It was a big, and it was in a file, or it was in like a folder. I had the full script. I was like, oh my gosh, the full Return of the Jedi script is available on the computer. I can print it out.

So I printed out a full script. And that was it. You felt caught. Like you expected or maybe it hadn't occurred to you there could be a negative reaction. It did not occur to me that a female or male would react negatively to me printing out the Return of the Jedi script. What were you going to do with it? Like have people read the parts of it? I don't know.

I think I just liked the idea of, like, looking at it. Like, oh, my God, this is what the actors saw when they were doing the movie, my favorite movie at the time, maybe. Was it, though, or was it, like, a transcript that somebody wrote up? It was probably a transcript, because that was a lot of the things you'd find online

when you were looking for scripts, is somebody had just made a transcript of the movie, and it was not full. It wasn't full of those, likeorge you know action descriptions which i'm sure were very specific and dynamic uh jason what's your moment for the because we're by the way we're about feeling you we're five percent through this hypothetical yeah uh probably explaining to like um people i my my college girlfriend or anyone who came into my dorm room, my desktop background was the Islands of Adventure. Like, oh, see, this is, now this is Marvel Superhero Island.

This is Dr. Seuss Island. Now this is the Lost Continent, which is, it's copyright free. It's myths and legends, but it's copyright free. And they were kind of running out of money, you know. Even within theme park world you remain so islands of adventure centric like within the niche you have your niche it it just hit at the right 12 year old age that's your that's you've made that your whole personality islands of adventure in a lot of ways i guess so well he's got this island shirt on. You're wearing a shirt. I do have an island shirt on.

You're wearing Islands of Adventure shirt. I mean, it's got a bunch of beer on it. Yeah, it's got beers on it. It was- Wacky, Ikeke ale. Yeah. There's a lot of brands within this. It was from a Goodwill.

I bought it in college for a play or a Halloween costume. I can't remember now. Oh, no. This is like from like 2004. That looks, that's what they call fresh, I think, as far as the look is concerned. It looks new, your outfit. Oh, thanks.

All right. Okay, so wait, hold on. 5% through. Okay, we see embarrassing moments as little boys. All right. Then we like whirl into like maybe, well, you're already in college age. So maybe we like get together.

It's like the origin of the podcast. Nick Mund is there he's pounding on the ride vehicle and saying start this podcast oh a massive we build it you know what he is in our minds a 40 foot tall intimidating so he's like megatron nick money's like megatron he like puts his hands and he like grabs him and digs him into the ride vehicle and starts shaking it it's like you will start a podcast and then like throws the thing around throws the vehicle around that's good because that's i feel like always cut like a big creature grabs the vehicle and shakes the v i feel like that's the first thing to go when they're trimming budgets oh well this is remember this is transformers so this is a this is a screen it's a screen okay it's gonna be weird should we definitely want and need it to be a screen ride.

For this ride that I'm envisioning, it has to be a screen. Mm-hmm. It has to be. Okay, so we've already made some trips. Yeah, right. Sure. Because really, the problem is with the budget is this is going to be very long. The ride is going to be super long.

Well, it has to be because he's asking what's the PTR experience, and the PTR this is gonna be very long the right yeah yeah well it has to be because he's asking what's the ptr experience and the ptr experience is pretty long very episodes are so it needs to be so we're talking like a i mean it's at least an hour and a half yeah so then at that point i think then this is going to be sort this is gonna be like maybe 15 minutes and then at that point you go through a highlight reel of all the best podcast to ride moments so jason yelling about grapefruit beer that's a dollar too expensive for him uh uh the argument about uh uh how many days to stay at tokyo disney of course so you see all of these different things play out in kind of a highlight reel and it's very dynamic you know you see uh i guess you use like maybe like soren transitions to go from moment to moment.

When I mean by that, it's just like a fade. Or like a wipe, like a bird of prey crosses. That's good. Yeah. Or Michael Eisner hitting a golf ball is a transition for everything. For everyone. So there's always Eisner. Yeah, there's always

Eisner there. And he just keeps swinging a golf ball, a golf club at us. And then I would like it if we could add him saying saying hello every time.

Yeah. I maybe hello doesn't make sense. Does he or just an Eisner style for or goodbye. Goodbye. But he says goodbye to every golf ball he hits. or a goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.

But he says goodbye to every golf ball he hits. That's good, yeah. And then after we've done the highlight reel, I think we have to fight all the villains we've ever fought on the show. And sort of, I'm trying to think of a good example. I guess like Sinister Six or something. It's Tillman Fertitta.

Oh, they're all back. They're all back, yeah. Yeah, yeah., yeah. Billy Joe Armstrong shows up and I'm like, come on guys, let's get him. And you guys go, I don't know, I'll keep him. Actually, some of the later stuff is the best. Oh, so the ride splits

at some point. Scott's enemy aisle. Mine has a lot more, by the way. Yeah, a lot of enemies. Mine is packed. Brian Setzer lands on the hood of the vehicle and starts soloing. He's a boogie woogie boogie boy from California Bay. He tries to force bowling shirts on everyone in the vehicle and fedoras. Yep.

You'll wear this fedora forever. So then if you got the Scottott path the ride is an extra 30 minutes well and because part of it because that involves you just going on the full living with the land as well there's also living with land is just in there too so you don't you have to chase brian setzer uh and uh randy gerber through a crop maze. So then the Jason path, I would just spend a little time reading you treats, but then switch it up to disgusting old food menus.

Yeah. Got some disgusting old food stuff. And then the hard tack. Coming up. Yeah, and Scrapple. I think all of our separate avenues that's where really the ride gains its length it's all right i mean what do you do with your half hour mike with my half hour uh i think it's it's definitely uh it's definitely the ride vehicle like there's screens in front and you just check for 30 minutes um like times for different rides

in the park yeah whatever park this is in you basically just check for fast passes for like for other rides for other rides and so yeah you're not even this is going to be good for the budget because there won't even be a need for screens or anything you'll just be on your console for 30 minutes refreshing it to see the vehicle is still it's the vehicle is still uh yeah you're playing like like, I don't know, clocks by Coldplay or something loudly in the background. All of Milo Xyloto. All of Milo Xyloto. As a train, the train, a digital version of the train, like,

that flips. I hear Jerusalem bells are ringing. Oh, my God, I'm going to get a 1215. Oh, fast pass for. Quick, Mike, order a baby serving two spoonfuls of mac and cheese in an applesauce packet. Oh, wait, there's an alert. You can get a Marvel Legends figure for $3 less than you normally can. Oh, order it real quick while you're trying to check.

So this is, yeah, this is... Everybody has their own... I'd rather go down the avenue with my enemies than be in this Coldplay blasting. Well, it's like Guardians of the Galaxy songs. It's randomized. So you don't know what you're going to get. I mean, it could be, yeah. When you try your best and you don't succeed.

When it's not what you want, but that's what you need. Whatever the, yeah. So the scientist, all of it. Or that's not the scientist. That's Fix You. I'm sorry. I'm singing the wrong Coldplay song. I apologize.

And then in year five was when Coldplay became a fixture. And that's where Scott's spirits really sing. There's still a lot of bands that I know a good amount of that haven't even come up on the show. So there's still a lot of bands that I know a good amount of that haven't even come up on the show. So there's still a lot of, this is the long con that you've played, not just with the audience, but with me personally, that you've top loaded it with the cool ones.

I like through the years you reveal, but I like this, but I like this, but I'm a big defender of sugar Ray. Oh my. Oh yeah. Yeah. Sugar Ray is fun.

No, you tricked me. That's part of the ride. Is you tricking me with bands that are cool? This happened to me once, but the person was wrong. They were like, oh, I thought you only liked cool stuff because I said I liked the Justin Timberlake

Future Sex Love songs. But that's cool, so I don't know. This has happened to me before, but it's been about the wrong... I've been accused of this has happened to me before, but it's been about, it's been the wrong. I've been accused of this before I'm saying, but at that point it was wrong. And now I guess it's writer, but also like the older I get, the older I get, the less I want to watch movies and TV and more I want to listen to any song. I don't know what that is. Like I'll go like, uh, I'm, I'm not, I used to be much more like picky about country and stuff and now

it's all good i don't know i don't know it's all pretty standard is just music any you just want music to be i like music a lot but i i'm very forgiving of music um there's there's not a lot that does when we've had the music i mean you you do just seem like well look there's a guy up on stage with a guitar. And I like it. And it's loud. And like, wow, that's your standard is just music is being played. I could rank things.

Like, I do know what's cooler than other things, I think. Sure. But who is the time? We're all getting older, you know? Now that's a practical thought. Yeah. Now that's a practical thought. I know, for example, I know some of the best musicians and songwriters and stuff are in Nashville, right? Because that's where there's a whole music industry, like the real country pros and stuff. There's a whole...

That's where Locash is doing their... That's where Locash is, yeah. That's all the best bands like low cash. Isn't that where Third Man Studios is? Yeah, of course. Yeah. There's cool stuff, obviously. But like you can like find something on like Apple Music or Spotify and then it will start recommending other people that you've never heard of.

And it's just like, oh, here's what here's what it is. I've gone through too many cycles of the Jimmy Buffett cycle of, oh my God, this exists. These songs are crazy. Some of them are embarrassing. And then I come on the other side and go, I guess I like it, though. I guess I like a lot of this stuff. So I've come around that cycle a couple times to the point where now I think I've just eliminated the part where I go, oh, this is kind of cringe, isn't it? And I just go, I guess I like it. Straight to, you hear something that go, I guess I like it. Straight to. I guess I just like this now. You hear something that sucks and go straight to liking it.

Yeah, I like anything that sucks. Oh, what's your taste in music? Well, anything that sucks. Anything, yeah. My favorite genre is sucky music. So all of that, and then that happens in the ride. You just get a 10-minuteetrack about, just in general, and it's not even like an insightful music conversation.

It's just music exists. And then I look at artists and listen to other artists. So that happens in the ride. You get that. Yeah. And then, yeah, you could, yeah, there's, I can make a, I should make a playlist of this hypothetical ride and see what you could get is the song

red hot chili pepper song I like dirt on the list yeah it is a question for you does it suck that song does kind of suck that song does kind of suck that song is not my favorite song of the red hot chili peppers

does this ride end is there an end to the ride or to the question? Here's the thing. Maybe when you started the ride, you thought it ended. But now that we've been doing it for five years, you're like, I guess there's no end in sight. There's no end in sight. It's like comic books, all second act. That's right.

At one point in time, decades ago, there was a first act. There was no act three in sight. Okay. So the PTR experience is at least five years long. That's correct. And running. Okay. I've got one from Ollie Hodgkinson.

If you had to spend the night in a theme park, which would you choose and where would you sleep? Maybe nestled up with the pig guy in Pirates of the Caribbean? The pig guy. That's pretty good. No. No. No. Not me. Jason loved the idea of that.

It's warm and cozy. Spend the night with the pig guy? It's not warm. It's cold in Pirates. Well, I don't think he's talking the whole night. We've talked a little bit about this, I think, on the show. Where do you sleep? Because I think we've talked about the bad on Pirates with the skeleton.

You sleep with the skeleton at the start of Pirates of the Caribbean. Can I push him over, or is he going to be there? Well, it depends if you have any respect for the ride. You won't push him over. Okay, it's not the narrative. It's like, I don't, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Is there any couches in the Carousel of Progress?

Can I crash on somebody? There's couches, yeah. There are couches. Yeah, there's got to be some furniture to sleep on. Yeah. I mean, Jason's in the light school. And they made everyone hotter. Oh, they did just update Carousel of Progress,

and they made everyone hotter on the ride. Did they change the physical, the look of the characters? They did, yeah. Yeah, the dad at least. The faces look different, yeah. And the mom, I think, yeah. Oh, that's, you know what? That's a good room.

It would creep me out, I guess, to have so many characters around, but that New Year's scene where there's, I guess, being around eight robots would be a little odd to spend the night. But, like, there's got to be a piece of furniture in there that I can, you know, like, they've got a sectional, don't they? Probably. So many of them are sitting on the floor playing video games. I bet there's a free couch.

Probably, yeah. Yeah. Jason, obviously, Islands of Adventure, I would think, is where you would want to sleep. I mean, it looks very good at night. The lighting setups are very cool at night. I think, I'm trying to think. Could you sleep up in the Hulk's arms?

He's like lifting a piece of track. You could sleep on top of the Hulk. Yeah, because with Toon Lagoon, you'd probably run into the same thing as Toontown, where it looks like there's beds and couches and stuff. But not comfortable. They're all hard. Oh, you wouldn't want to sleep on it. Do they have a plastic Beetle Bailey cot in Toon Lagoon?

I don't think so. No. I think it's mostly flat. I don't even think they have a three-dimensional approximation of what the cartoon character's living quarters would be. Yeah. What about the lighthouse? Oh, the lighthouse would be good. At Islands of Adventure.

A little secluded room at the top of the lighthouse? You could dress up like the Night Before Christmas father with the cap and the whole thing and bring up a little candle as you climb the stairs of the Islands of Adventure lighthouse. Yeah. With no railing. I'll just eat it. Just climbing up those stairs. Well, that's up to you. Did you, someone posted like a picture of like across

from Oga's in Galaxy's Edge, there's just a stairwell to like a landing with plants on it. And someone's like, you could get up there. There's nothing stopping anyone from walking up these stairs. Yeah.

There is no railing, but it's definitely just a stairs to a patio. Yeah. I don't want to sleep up there, though. Yeah. What would I do? I would say don't do Animal Kingdom, because a lot of those animals come out at night. So I feel like it'd be rowdy and noisy. Yeah, I know.

The monkey cages? But what if I gained their trust, the animal's trust? It would probably just be a trick, and they'd just beat the shit out of you. Or eat me. Yes. Can I sleep in the Hemisphere Dancer at CityWalk? I don't know what's in there, but a little plane doesn't have...

You're a tall guy, and a little cockpit is going to be tough to... You lean the seat back? Jimmy Buffett has a plane that can recline. That's a good point. The seat can recline in a plane. Yeah, there could be a hammock in there. He might... It's probably an upside-down control panel so that it can lower on top of his hammock.

Yeah. So I guess that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to sleep in the Hemisphere Dancer at CityWalk Orlando. Scott, you could probably sleep at the Carthay Circle. A lot of comfy chairs and couches and stuff in there. It does count, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Do they have the little elevator? I could close up the little elevator. Yeah. That sounds nice. Oh, boy. Well, I don't think it's happening anytime soon because they don't offer a sleeping package as far as i know that's too bad tells but who cares it's boring it is it's interesting they haven't done private event like lock-ins it's probably would be like a library lock-in like yeah like gym lock, like a school lock-in that people would do.

I guess they did the 24-hour days or longer. Yeah, I've been there. But they don't really want you sleeping during a 24-hour day. No, no. But, I mean, you can't control a, like, tired dads can sleep anywhere in a theme park. You can't. Remember this.

You can't control a tired dad. Remember that, folks. This is interesting. Andrew Lippins. What favorite treat of Jason's would Scott hate the most? Oh, man. What a question. Any ideas? I don't know which angle. I mean, you've got to tell me and I have to react,

I suppose. I really I feel we just recently tweeted a picture of of Scrapple yeah that looks like shit to me it looks gross so bad yeah I hmm I don't know I mean I one of my favorite treats is a hot fudge sundae with chocolate ice cream instead of vanilla ice cream is that too sweet for you is that too chocolate oh that sounds. Let me establish a base. Okay, that's good. No, I think I start running into trouble the more chemical we get,

the fakier it is, I think is where I start to dive. You mean like diet sodas? That is the word. Of stuff like, yeah, when you had me try the Coke Starlight, I despised that. You ever drink a Diet Coke?

No, no, never. You ever drink a Diet Coke? No, no, never. Do you ever drink a regular Coke? Not anymore now. Not in decades, no. I feel like it's come, zero calorie sodas have come a long way with the introduction of zero lines, zero sugar. I think a lot of them do taste pretty close to regular sodas. But then I don't drink regular sodas either, so there's your trouble. That doesn't help me necessarily.

That's true. No, but it's that fake diet stuff. I don't like CVA. That tastes to me like somebody took a bunch of aspirin and ground them up in the drink. That's not my go-to. Okay, a place it burned down down but a place my family went to for for years uh it still find uh pork roll taylor ham whatever you call it uh at a lot of the jersey

boardwalks but one place we really love the hamburger construction company would do whoa whoa it's a hamburger construction company yeah it burned down at the start of 2021. Have you ever told me about this before? Yeah, it's the t-shirt I have that's like endless summer, but it's a big hamburger instead of a thing. How have we not done an episode on the Hamburger Construction Company? I'll tell you what. It burned down at the very start of 2021, and I was so-

Recently? Yes, I was so upset. Did we mention this and I forgot? I don't remember the Hamburger Construction Company. It might have come up in passing because as soon as I found so, yes, I was so upset. Did we mention this and you forgot? I don't remember the hamburger. It might've come up in passing because as soon as I found out the news, it's like, well, gotta record the Avery Monson episode. Wow, really?

Within minutes. Like, yeah, it was a real, and also the guy, they're like, we're going to rebuild. And I'm like, that guy's not gonna come back. He's like my parents' age. And sure enough like 30 plus years in a kitchen uh an un-air-conditioned kitchen sweating every summer he tapped out and decided to retire but better yeah uh i say all this to say that they

would do pork roll on like a nice hoagie roll a nice italian roll they would also do a taylor burger which is a burger patty taylor pork roll and like two things of american cheese and then you dress it however you like a burger all that sounds good to me i think it would wreck me i think as i said i'm retiring from you just don't want like neon color like you don't want colors you know what maybe the discovery here andrew is that you ask, is it Jason? But I think maybe eating like Mike is the tougher one. I actually think genuine. Like if we make you one of those goofy slush mix-ins they have in Disneyland,

the California Adventure now, where it's like icy and fruit juice and nerds and gummy bear. I think maybe we've had it wrong the whole time. Eating like Jason wouldn't be as bad for me as drinking like Mike. That is much tougher for me. Because I do need to taste alcohol in the alcohol I'm drinking. That is a requirement.

I don't like my colors and goos. I don't want gummy worms swimming around in my drink. Do you like sprinkles? I guess. I can, yeah. You would deal with sprinkles. The last, yeah. I'll get sprinkles. I'll get rainbow sprinkles on Disneyland.

On, like, whatever the Main Street ice cream is. Okay. We can work with that. Would you ever get the sprinkle cone with, like, the chocolate and sprinkles in the waffle cone? Maybe. Sure. That doesn't sound abhorrent. Okay. But would I get a sprinkled drink? That's the, if there's a bunch of sprinkles in the waffle cone? Maybe. Sure, that doesn't sound abhorrent. But would I get a sprinkled drink? If there's a bunch of sprinkles

caking the rim of a beverage, I think that's a good idea. Oh, sprinkle rim. I like the sound of that. You're going to have to stop the record. You're salivating on the mic too much. Pavlov's dog over here. Maybe.

We hear sprinkle rim. Maybe we can meet in the middle on this. Sprinkle rimming. How do you feel about cake batter flavoring, Michael? My friend, I'm drinking it in the middle on this. I feel sprinkle rimming. How do you feel about cake batter flavoring, Michael? My friend, I'm drinking it in the coffee right now. Oh, amen, brother. What you've been having the whole time is cake batter. Here's what it is.

I'm drinking a large coffee from Dunkin' Donuts. You can specialize exactly what you want, how much of it you want. And I don't put any sugar in it. I put some of the natural raspberry flavor in it. And then I ask for one squirt of cake batter. That is not the official. Just one squirt of batter. Squirt one little squirt of batter, please.

One wee squirt of batter, please. That is not the official, Brandon. You're trying to mighty accron the Dunkin' ordering system. Well, here's the thing. Now that I'm looking at it, it looks like they put four swirls in, even though I specified on my app that I wanted one. I did not check. You're right. Now that I'm looking at it. But you have, have you vocalized out loud? This is the best coffee drink I've ever had. I have not. Is it better though? It's good to have a little sweet. I just don't,

sometimes like McDonald's coffee is very sweet, but it is like you're drinking a shake. So I try to get a good mix of just like, you know, not something overpowering, but I guess maybe they overpowered me with cake batter today.

There are episodes I've recorded where I have drank a Dunkin' peanut butter cup macchiato or Irish cream macchiato. The peanut butter cup, I guess if you get a

small it would be okay but it was it was small but it comes separated and like you mix it like you you stir it up and that was pretty good but i am just drinking like iced coffee with half and half like so mike's drinking the candy coffee yeah but it doesn't it doesn't it's not that sweet i've had much sweeter. The McDonald's coffee, if you've ever had just an iced coffee at McDonald's, is much sweeter than this. It's also not great if you don't get it sweet. It just doesn't have, like, much coffee flavor.

The McDonald's? Yeah. Yes. I concur. You kind of need to at least get, like, a vanilla. Yeah, Scott, we'll try you eating Fruity Pebbles at a certain point. The drinking is, maybe I can't even agree to the drinking. Well, we'll see. I'll see what I can find. That's where the degree of sugar will have me just like...

I don't think you would, I don't want you, I don't offer my drinks to anyone, but I think you could drink some of this. I don't think this would be crazy. Okay. I don't know when this is coming out or what orders we're going to choose to put stuff out in, but I did purchase something

for us to consume oh on air oh to get in the groove oh wow okay oh we're gonna like start piecing this out yeah we're gonna we're gonna build up your tolerance before we do the full tasting flight yeah um okay uh jason do you have one or do you want me to go? You go ahead. Okay. Oh, shoot. I had it and of course lost it. Here, mine's, I got one quick. King Koth, can we get Cub reporter Scott's review of the Bugmane live show he attended recently? You know, we're talking music and artists who we have a lot of affinity for. Sure. I think Bugmane is doing things in the hip hop forum,

in the live music forum. I've only seen, I want to say I've only seen like three or four concerts since concerts have returned post-COVID, and two of them have been Bugmane. I've not been disappointed by either. I spit my eyes out when you said that. He's a revelation. I think P.F. Chang's

one of the new songs is an absolute jam I loved when he went into the audience and knocked the projector over when he took off his shirt the whole audience was electrified and King Koth is holding it down on the ones and twos so a great live presentation.

Don't miss this great live package if you have the opportunity. Okay, great, yeah. Check it out, everybody. Available on all streaming services, I believe. And to hear Kokopelli live, imagine whatever Mike feels of hearing Fix You. Fix You by Coldplay. Imagine 100 Fix You's all at once.

And that's what it's like to hear the icon bug main doing the iconic song. Yeah, same thing. Jason, you got something? Yeah, this is from at George D3. Just watch the fake doctor final for a poll by Scott's willingness to invalidate the election results. So my question is uh i remember where where were you uh where was scott on january 6th hashtag podcast the riot i'll actually answer that uh we were in our respective uh homes recording an episode

while most of the january 6th no i believe i believe we paused it i believe i believe the day was pretty intense and i think i said maybe we shouldn't maybe we'll record tomorrow i thought we paused a different i thought we called it on a different day it was a different day yeah you know you're right you we did we did record an episode we did what episode was and i don't remember what yeah no jason's right i'm i'm misremembering what bullshit were we talking so go back and if there's an episode that came out like mid-January 2021, and it's weirdly edgy, like psychotic, that might, I don't know. We need to go back and figure out what that was.

But we did do, you're right. No regrets. I think I made the right decision. I don't remember why I overturned them or what for. I think maybe I was just bored by the Muppet winning, and I didn't i didn't think it was unique or interesting enough right and that wasn't the bold leadership that we needed then right it was whoever i chose that i don't remember and jason and i jason and i were

just oh we know it's okay there's god will become reasonable again eventually that's that was our our thinking so just let him do this what's what's gonna happen we thought like oh everything will go back to normal and we don't need to deal with the urgency when was that that was probably and that was like the i'm gonna guess the date that it was like march 20th so when the march 20th hearings have come and gone we'll uh we'll get to the bottom of whether i do i need to be uh right right banned from being a podcast host okay let's see here I have again lost the thing that I was gonna say there's a couple people have asked about sleeping in a theme park I don't know

we've had multiple questions about sleeping in a theme park which I guess is what everybody's just walking around they're going oh I could sleep over there you think this is anywhere nice in the the tree house i don't remember the tarzan's treehouse iteration and whatever's coming i just like maybe there'll be a nice like under the stars tropical place to sleep yeah hopefully they bring back the jaunty polka music here's a good question i think they will whatever it is here's a good question uh What are our fursonas? Do you guys know what this is? I do know what a fursona is.

Fursonas. Which I have actually not given this any thought, so I'm excited to think about it. I need this defined a little more, though. I am not an expert on this, but I believe this is sort of adjacent or is the furry community. And in that you have your own basically like your own animal character.

That's your fursona. That's your your avatar. Yeah, exactly. Like your avatar. And I know I've seen some people online. They have, you know, very nice drawings of this character. And then they sometimes people make an actual suit. I don't we don't have to do that obviously we don't have time to make a suit right now but we could at least

what animal you would like to be i think there's no real rules to this i think it'd be any animal i think you could be maybe a hybrid um so i i am intrigued by this question because like i don't know what animal do you like what what would the animal do the animal could i think could have powers if i let's say the animal could have powers sure um like off the top of my head i feel like i feel like i would like to be like a fox or something kind of like a fantastic mr fox type maybe with like a kind of a fancy fox, you know, like dressed like... With a top hat?

No. Like Uncle Wiggly the Rabbit Gentleman is one of my favorite board games as a kid. I don't know if you've ever seen him. No. Jason, you know Uncle Wiggly the Rabbit Gentleman? Yeah, we definitely talked about Uncle Wiggly before he has rheumatism.

Yes, he has trouble rheumatism yes he has yes he has trouble walking and that's true that's canon his his nemesis or his antagonist always trying to give him ear nibbles this is this well there's stories as well yeah wiggly is now um public domain it was the thing where like the stories were published in like a weekly newspaper or magazine then collected in books and i had we used to take the uncle wiggly like book out from the library and then my mom found one at the garage sale and then she found the board game so yes yeah we were we were wiggly house so you can say jason and i uncle wiggly taught jason and i how to be weird in a lot of ways yeah um so uncle wiggly i like him i like

uncle wiggly all that to say but maybe i think like a fancy fox but maybe more like kind of loose 70s fox like like um like uh dressed like a charles nelson riley on match game fox maybe with like a little more of like a neckerchief or something and kind of like a maybe more of a leisure leisure suit and kind of like with a martini in his hand. Like I guess I guess I'm describing like a swarthy Fox, which I guess I like. I guess I want to be a little bit like 70s swarthy Fox 70s playboy Fox a 70s playboy Fox with sort of a neckerchief. I could have an ascot. I could have like a Vincent Price ascot on as well. And then do we have names for

personas? Do they have their own names? I don't quite know. I guess, again, there's no rules to this I think, so we could probably come up with like what would be a fun name for this persona of mine. I don't know. I'm sure there's very specific roles depending on what type of persona you're doing.

But maybe Foxy? Wow. With an I. Okay. Sure. Well, that fancies it up, doesn't it? Foxy with an I? Yeah.

This is pretty good. That's a pretty good fursona honestly yeah well and you're look you're ahead of me because i'm trying to think about this and i'm like i don't like these i don't want to be one i don't really i don't i don't i've always had a hard time answering what kind of animal would you be i don't know if i want to be an animal i know i know that's a boring question i feel like this is a to be like you're right i like a foreign anthropomorphic animal? This is not anything I ever dreamed of. This is beyond animal. I need to be more creative, I guess.

You could just be like Uncle Wiggly, the rabbit gentleman, which I think is what Jason's going to say. Well, I was going to say I'd probably be some variety of sleepy bear. So I don't know if that's a... Panda was where my mind went first and i started thinking about the sleepy time t-bear which we needed the universe of sleepy time t-bears yeah yeah what's he what's he wearing is he wearing a big night shirt is he wearing the night before christmas dad outfit uh yeah i mean ever since i was a kid i've always gravitated to

like two sizes two big sleep shirts okay or you could have like the old like the kids version with the butt flap to go to the bathroom yeah i mean flaps and zippers and and foot uh when i was i don't think i've ever said this before i i know there's still some child neuroses we haven't talked about um i have always uh i had a very sweaty feet as a child and still do. Oh, no. Oh, wow. Jason's sweaty feet. So, you know, footie pajamas, it's a one piece. I do, yeah.

And that includes the feet. And so at some point, my mom just started cutting the feet off because it's just like- Wow, really? You are going to get, you are getting a rash or you're getting irritated. Did you get feet rash as a child from your footie pajamas? Probably like whatever version of like athlete's foot or some sort of. Yeah. So started cutting them off.

I still, I hate sleeping with socks on. I do not. I mean, I don't like that either. Yeah. Wow. Sweating your feet. I do. I do like sleeping with socks on.

Do you? And I kick them off triumphantly as the night goes on. I've done that before. Oh, sure. Yeah. That feels good to me. If I fall asleep, I would do that. That was a trick in the Boy Scouts.

We go cold weather camping, you put clean socks on before bed because you lose most of your heat from your head or your feet. So if you wear a knit cap and you wear socks, you're going to be a lot cozier. Oh, okay. But don't wear the socks you wore all day because they've absorbed the moisture from the day. My gosh. So your footie pajamas were just like water bags

by the end of the night. Just a pair of scissors. Just chop off the feet. So, okay, I got your name. Your name is Barefoot the Bear. That sounds great. So you're a bear. You have some sort of comfortable pajamas,

but then there's kind of like, you can see that the feet have been cut off of the footie pajamas for the bear. Perfect. So you're barefoot, the bear, and you've got a little cap on and you've got a little dress. I mean,

I like the ease of one piece of clothing, you know? Okay. So barefoot, foxy, and I'm thinking like, what, what if I, if we're using

powers if I could be a zebra but I'm not limited to black and white if I can change those colors limited any color in this so I could just like just think it manifest it and then go through a psychedelic light show with my stripes like

like fruit stripe gum zebra yeah yeah yeah I like fruit stripe gum zebra yeah yeah yeah oh i like fruit stripe gum zebra yeah yeah yeah another second kate eventually what's his name um uh i don't know so yeah but i that i can essentially do like insta heffalump and woozle type sequences either to impress people or as a distraction as kind of like a little flash bomb that goes off. So with like, I don't want to just be stripey. I don't want to just be basic here. How do I juice up this name?

Oh, oh. Visor? Oh, juice up the name. You know, Psycho Stripes. Psycho Stripes is good. Oh, he's joined the Psychophantic Records family. What about Stripo? Just Stripo?

Oh, Stripo. That's nice and clean. I figured you'd have a good little package for me. You're into the fursona. You've got a fursona knack. My name was so good. My name was so good. Of course I'm good at naming.

When you started with Foxy, yeah, I knew we could pass the ball to you. So Foxy, Stripo, and Barefoot. Barefoot the Bear. Barefoot the Bear. Perfect. That was a barefoot fursona, folks. Those are cute. I know all three of them are cute.

Yeah. No question about those. There was a theme park question, if you could imagine. Oh, really? Huh. I think was it just what's what's all of your dream park what's the one you haven't been to and now i can't find the actual real place yeah yeah um like what's the what's the one that's the the white whale at this point that

you're dying to go to oh well i guess for me i mean i'm the only one who hasn't been to tokyo disney yet but i'm also curious of like um some of the smaller parks we talked about some of the regional parks with like specific stuff like um lagoon salt lake city lagoon and uh uh is it cano cano be kenobi yeah i've been to keno bulls i haven't been to kenobi i don't think that's how you say it, but okay. That is how you say Kenobulls. But now you don't say Kenobulls. You don't put the emphasis on bulls. Oh, I can't speak to that. Hey, largest free theme park or amusement park in America, I think,

because it's still ticket-based systems. I mean, mine are Dollywood and Efteling, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to. Why are youllywood and Efteling, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to. Why are you so down on it? Because I want to be interesting. Those are exciting places to go.

I want to be interesting in this. Say Dollywood and Efteling. I don't want to be interesting in music, but I want to be interesting in my choices for my dream park visit. What's your dream song to listen to? Any song. I mean, again, if it sucks, that helps put it at the top of the list. But just songs, any song.

I'm trying to look. Okay, what I've been listening to is Red Hot Chili Peppers' By The Way, which is the 20th anniversary of By The Way. I don't think I've found all the ins and outs of By The Way. Well, there's secrets left to this song. There was a great Stereogum article saying it was their best album. But then look at I also. Oh, the album, not the song.

Yeah. I've also been listening to Wet Leg. That's a new band. That's a cool new band. Okay. And Harry's House. Great. Oh, you were telling us you like Harry's House.

Yeah. I listened to a song earlier when I was exercising. And I don't think either of you will be happy to hear it, but do you know the song Uma Thurman by Fall Out Boy? Yes, of course. It samples the Munster song. Of course I know Uma Thurman by Fall Out Boy, Jason. If you were talking about songs or you're just like,

I don't know this very good, but I like it. I think that's fine. There's been a lot of Mun of monsters talk in the air so it got caught stuck in my head so i put it on uh uh that song uh exists for sure you might have you're a little you went a little too far for mike well the only reason is just i'm such a traditionalist when it comes to the monsters you don't want any of that junk getting in the way yeah yeah that's fair i'm not against i mean in the instance of that junk getting in the way. Yeah, yeah. That's fair. I'm not against. I mean, in the instance of that low-cash song about the Beach Boys, that I like. When it samples another song and, yeah.

Well, yeah, low-cash Beach Boys is pretty. It doesn't get any better than that. Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a hypothetical music podcast we do also where I get to go through all of this weird stuff like the Everclear cover of Brown Eyed Girl where he adds his own intro, original musical intro to it. That is really something. I think this music podcast will have different co-hosts. That's fine. Perhaps none, perhaps no co-hosts.

Come on in, Scott. Come on in. The door locks behind behind you we're going album by album through the they might be giants catalog we're doing a 19 part series on the double everclear album songs from an American movie part one and two I mean maybe it's when bands do their statement

about America they have a song about being a rock star before Nickelback had a song about being a rock star. And no one before Everclear. Yeah, never before. This was a new premise entirely. Never before that. So, anyway, Jason, you have something?

Yeah. From at Mel Got Served. Hi, Mel. Thoughts on the Carousel of Progress wardrobe plus-ups in the final scene? We addressed it earlier. For them. Like them. Yeah, that's more current.

It makes sense. I think everyone looks good. There's some cute details. There's some cute little Easter eggs in there. Moving on. Great. Moving on. Let's see here.

What's a cue that mike and jason would do thanks for leaving me out knowing that they couldn't ride the ride at the end it's from nick nick oh couldn't ride the ride at the end we're gonna only do the cue oh it's guardians i think for sure i would just you would just willingly do the guardians cue and not go on the ride well i i would prefer to go on the ride but you don't get to that That's out. That's the question. But I like the rocket show so much and I like looking at the stuff in the cases. So you've been told you're going to

do this and there is no ride at the end. The wait is 45 minutes. Was that part of the question? Was it the wait is intense? The waiting isn't very long? If the wait is only 5 minutes, then there's no I would do all of them if the wait was only 5 minutes, then there's no... I would do all of them if the wait was only five minutes.

You have to put some stakes into this, I think. Well, there has to be... We can ask him. Maybe he'll respond. Let's say 30 minutes. 30. Is that not too long? I mean, what else?

An in-between... Hmm. Mm-hmm. Indiana Jones? I mean, like... Guardians, I think. I think that's the bet... One of the most fun queues in pre-shows you can get.

I mean, I guess Rise of the Resistance, if you count, spoiler alert, spoiler alert two years later, going on Lieutenant Beck's ship, I guess. I guess maybe that one then. I think that's a cheat. I think that's not. But that's a cheat. You're right. Yeah, yeah.

We need a cue. That's a ride. There's a ride in the cue. No rides. A lot of good Easter eggs in the Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man queue. You go through the Daily Bugle offices and something. Back to

islands. Back to islands. You would do that queue and then no ride. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I would do that queue and no ride as well. Yeah. I'll wait 30 minutes. I'm there for the day. I'm going to keep dialing it up. 45. You'll wait 30 minutes. I'm there for the day. I'm going to keep dialing it up. 45.

You'll do it? Because it's hard. You're explaining to me what's going on there. The ride is broken? Yeah, the ride's broken, but they left the door open. The door is open, but the ride is broken. And I don't know why all the people are still in it. That I can't account for.

That doesn't make much sense. So the hypothetical... There's just a lot of people stuck there. They're like video game avatars. They're like from Roller Coaster Tycoon, where they're like one-cell organisms. They don't know that they can leave. It is lying.

I must be in line. They're stuck on a sidewalk and there's no way to go and you've deleted part of the sidewalk and now they're just stuck roaming. The only exit, there's a problem with the entrance as soon as you're in.

They shut the entrance. There's a bee swarm at the entrance. Something that just happened to me at Universal Studios. There's a beehive so you can't go out the front. The only is out the back okay all right i don't honestly like if if they said like spider-man is closed for five years or 10 years we have a big problem with it and you can wait in line and go through the queue and i had somebody away with that wasn't

going to be was like into it like jason that wasn't going to give you any shit about everclear yeah that wasn't going to make was going to talk with me about everclear in a real way in like a reasonable way and wait it was in a real way mean like what's jason gonna do that's real about everclear jason's gonna listen to what art alexakis has to say about you know growing up and and fatherhood and all that stuff and he's gonna be we're gonna be dealing you know the real shit he's gonna get real with you we're gonna have some real some mark maron talk in this queue about everclear and their double album you know what i'll say on so much for the afterglow ever Everclear's So Much for the Afterglow, the start of it really sounds with a nice Beach Boys

type kind of riff before they go into the main hard rockin' song. But yes, Beach Boys pastiches and tributes have been perfected by low cash. That's true. By current country 60-somethings with

dyed goatees, low cash. I can't imagine that it tops low cash. It probably doesn't. But so, yeah. So, yeah. I mean, obviously, there's an agenda of stuff you're going to get done. But here, okay. I've waited for dumber things than just walking to see the cartoon Daily Bugle.

Oh, yeah. I've waited for a lot dumber things for a lot longer. I've waited for dumber things at comic-con i've waited for dumber comic we can do you know captain america's famous line we can do i can do this all day while he's fighting getting beat up that's what jason and i are like with lines i doesn't phase us at all i would beg my parents to take me to the dirty holiday in by the airport because they've set up folding tables so different vendors can sell comic books and trading cards yeah wow and it smells like cigarettes probably still to this day i've never yeah we've never met a line that we couldn't

we couldn't stand in oh we stood in line for eight hours to meet springsteen wasn't eight i thought it was six we got up at like three in the morning yeah we kept doing runs jason did? Jason did? I did, yeah. It was my birthday. What? Oh, a meeting spring's coming. It was the day before my birthday. I think it was like October 3rd, and the next day, you were like, all right, see you in 10 hours, because we were gone to Disneyland for my birthday. That's right. So, yeah, Spider-Man or Guardians.

Jeez. My takeaway from that is not only is it, yes, you'll do it. I think you actively want to do it. Now you're now, now you seem like you got to a place of like,

you want this bonding with your pal Jason. You want this 45 minutes talking about rock. You know, no rye. It's a daily bugle open house where you can get real

about Everclear. You seem wistful for that. A little bit, yeah. As long as we can talk about the instrumental song El Distorto de Melodica that's on so much for the afterglow. As long as his internet's working, he can play like 10 or 15 second clips. That was my entrance music for Back at Wrestling

is that song. Wow. Instrumental. Pretty hard. It's kind of a hard song, honestly. It's kind of a hard song honestly it's sort of like a tough guy type song so let's see what do we got um we're both so we're all so blown we're so you're mentally there we have a lot of treats and sleep questions so when we address those, live, treat, repeat. That's what I say. Sleep, treat, repeat. People ask about a Vegas live show.

Yeah, one day. If you know where we could do it. If you've been to like a venue. Yeah, MGM Grand. Or the Park MGM. Yeah, Park Theater. Residency. Park MGM.

I mean, sounds good. Park MGM Theater. Yeah, in between Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga's residencies. Aerosmith, I think, is coming back in September. Yes. But you've been fooled so many times. This is a Lucy in the football

situation. There are discounts in those My Vegas games. One of the rewards is Aerosmith. But there's no comp tickets, but there are 25% off tickets. They're only $85. What are you guys doing the podcast

for? Why aren't you playing this game to get your Aerosmith discounts? I want to get in the pit, though. I need to be in the pit at the Deuces are Wild residency. Get in the fucking pit! You need to become COVID eligible again because you had your bout with it.

Sure, yeah. And you want it to run out and then you want to get COVID from Steven Tyler's sweat droplets. If there was going to be a way to catch a new variant, it would be from Steven Tyler, yes. This MF gotten monkey pox in the Aerosmith Deuces Wild Pit. If I could get on stage and play a little harmonica with Steven.

I have. I'll put my mouth on his dirty spit covered harmonica. Ew. What's gross about that? What did I say that was weird? You managed to top Jason's sweaty footy feet. The grossest thing thus far, but then you imagine like Steven Tyler's dirty harmonica. Yes.

I bet it's like he smells like vanilla or something. I bet it's fine. I like this question. Like this Dunkin' Donuts vanilla that I... You're the most idealized Steven Tyler I could ever imagine. He smells nice, and he's a wonderful dad. Steven Tyler smells like my big treat coffee. Yeah, right.

Says Michael. From at BFWings55, do you think Beastly Kingdom would have lived up to its hype potential? Would it have been torn down to be replaced by Avatar anyway? No. I'm not tearing it down. I don't think tearing it down. If they did that, like, because Beastly Kingdom was the not-built mythical creature part of Animal

Kingdom that had, like, a dueling dragon coaster with, like, a maybe a, was it a robot dragon in the middle of, like, a castle? I think similar. We should, hey, that's a good episode idea. We should go through that with Beastly Kingdom. But no, there's not, that was a, that would have been. We should, hey, that's a good episode idea. We should go through the Beastly Kingdom. But no, that was a,

that would have been a cool rollercoaster and they generally don't tear down cool rollercoasters that are popular. Yeah. So I don't think that would ever

have been torn down. And especially if there was stuff with like big characters. Like if they put Beast from Beauty and the Beast or something like that. What?

They were not gonna put Beast in the Beastly Kingdom? Weren't they gonna put Beast in there? That's where my mind goes first. No, it was all like mythical like dragons and the lore of yesteryear is mythical yeah a prince who is cursed and turned this wasn't part of the this is never leaked that they were gonna put beast in beastly kingdom no we're making this up but i'm making it up idea but i feel like if disney is making something called beastly like they're

gonna find a place to put the beast in there somewhere. It'd be interesting to go to a realm that's all beasts. I guess beasts isn't like Wookiees. It's not a race of, it's not like a type of creature. Yeah. Because that only happens to this mean prince. Right. But seeing an entire world of beasts and baby beasts and lady beasts, it would be interesting.

And what do they eat and what do they do? Warner Brothers tried that with Fantastic Beasts and the world said, no, thank you. They tried three times. We're done. They tried three times. Are you sure? Here, let's give it one more go. But there's a lot of different characters named Beast also. Obviously, there's an X-Man named Beast. There's the Beast from Beauty and the Beast.

There's a Masters of the Universe character, Beast Man. Was it one of those guys who ran the ghost kitchens? Or is it like a... Yeah, wait. One of those ghost kitchens that Robert Earl runs. Yeah, Beast. Mr. Beast, right? Mr. Beast, yes.

Mr. Beast. They could have updated it. They could have made it cool for the kids by putting Mr. Beast in. So, yeah. Mr. Beast. could have updated it they could have made it cool for the kids but putting Mr. Beast in they could have done any character that's ever been named Beast oh man that would have been great a theme park show

that's like the Dick Cabot show and it's long conversations between Beast from X-Men Beast from Beauty and the Beast and Mr. Beast Burger just being a scamp like he always is wow different generations, different perspectives and the Beast and Mr. Beast Burger just being a scamp like he always is. Wow. Different generations, different perspectives. I think a lot's going to get accomplished there.

We should maybe wind it down. There's two that kind of go next to each other, I think. Yeah. Potentially. One is from Sabs. The people want to know when y'all are coming back to Orlando. We don't have an answer for that, but we'd certainly like to. And right next to that,

Kate Mallow, and I'm sorry, will Jason Sheridan ever give Lake Nona a chance? I live there and it's not as bad as he thinks. Now, I was almost straying away from this, but being that, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to put these next to each other and say, because obviously we'd like to come back to Orlando. We're trying to figure

that out. But if we do that, I feel like at this point, we have to take Jason down to Lake Nona. We got to show you around. I'm sure there's great establishments in Lake Nona. I will happily give it a chance. We're waiting for where you step in it. Go ahead. Whatever.

As video goes up, I'm going to look right in this camera. Oh, boy. And I'm talking right to the audience whatever point I was trying to make I fucked up a long time ago so I'm just along for the ride right now so yeah I will do

I'll get a shot I will go to the like it'll be exciting to see Lake Noda's $5 coffee compares to Burbank's $5 coffee you know Burbank's $5 coffee. It's all the same. It's all the same. Can I propose a question to Kate or anyone else?

Is there a venue in Lake Nona? Podcasts are live in Lake Nona? Is there a venue that could house a little podcast show? All right. A little homework for Kate. Is it a coffee shop? Is it in the middle of the lake? How is a little podcast show? All right. A little homework for Kate. In Lake. No, no. Is it a coffee shop?

Is it in the middle of the lake? Sure. Can they put an aquatic stage up? Yeah. Is it something where, like, if we just put a couple flyers up, the whole town will gather together? Is that a certain level of teasing where I'll start to get upset? Maybe. Will that lead to a certain level of teasing?

A certain level of razzing where I'm like, I don't know what I did, but I feel real bad. No, what it's going to do is give you the best night of your life in Lake Nona. It's going to completely reverse your expectation. And by the way, the point you were trying to make, which we never disagreed with, was you didn't want these Imagineers to have to move. And now you won on that one. They're not doing it. We think so, yeah. Maybe ever. They punted on it. I think so, yeah. Maybe ever.

At least not for a long time. So it's a perfect opportunity to divide the issues. That forced relocation is gone. Great. Now the place we can reclaim. We can reclaim the beauty and the magic. Now we can start fresh. Fresh start. You know, fresh start.

We're starting fresh, and you're hearing it more and more. i think i think really what and i guess i shouldn't give this away on the podcast but i think that that podcast should start you coming on stage and just chastising the audience for 15 minutes about living here what are you doing here lights down you're like in full like wrestling heel mode i yeah yeah and then you get like visited by like an angel maybe the mayor of lake it's a full yeah it's a full like it's gonna be narrative it's not even the regular podcast it's we're gonna put on a little play i will go i will go full mgf uh mjf where like at the start of the eight minutes the audience is booing me

and then by the end they're like just cheering me. Yes, that's what we would like. You want to do a turn, like a double turn. Not a double turn, a regular turn. An emotional, a full emotional arc as you've had with the place as you will end up at like from despising to loving. I think it's beautiful. Yeah, I think this is a great idea. If we can make this happen,

I think it's something we should put on the high priority list. Can we do a show in the husk of the hip office space with cutting people? Absolutely, we could.

That might be the most open space we have. I hear it's free. The roof of the building that the Imagineers were going to be working out of, if we can rent that. Do like a Beatles

like Abbey Road rooftop. The Walt Disney Company decided it might not be pertinent if the entire government and the residents of the villages are just frothing at them out to get their hands on their employees. Yep, yep. So I don't know. That sounds like a great idea and a great place to start. We can't get higher than that.

I don't think so. Podcast the Ride live in Lake Nona coming soon. Wow. We really cracked it. That's the way to do it. And artists, if you're a little stuck on what to work on next, there's some great fursonas. Just waiting for you.

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where your participation is always key, as opposed to these post offices, which now we're shutting. Clang, clang, clang. No more thoughts. Keep it zipped. We talk next time. As opposed to this.

We talk about what we want to talk about. Not with loose suggestions sometimes. We're not staying completely on topic. We're not going to talk about Everclear's Sparkle and Fade album. That has the song Santa Monica and many others. Keep going if you want. You should just do a tear

and people can turn it off whenever they... Everclear released a song called Volvo Driving Soccer Bomb. You just go. Jason and I was in the video. We'll just do a tear and people can turn it off whenever they... Everclear released a song called Volvo Driving Soccer Bomb. You just go. Jason and I, it was in the video. We'll just get up and go. We'll just leave Mike. Every Everclear song, when he's trying to have a single, he goes, na-na, na-na, na-na. He puts that in every song. There's a part

where he goes, there's like a break. Yeah, na-na, na-na. He has yeah, na-nas. It's like his bag of tricks and he's done it for most of those. Jason, the bit is that you have to leave, so I can stop doing this part of the bit. Scott, I think Garfield, please don't get crushed by the door. There's a dog in play.

I know that Art is not the only one. He's the only original member of the band left at this point, so I don't really know what happened. I've seen Everclear twice. I saw them first. It was a show with Lifehouse, Matchbox 20, and Everclear. Everclear played second. Matchbox 20,

of course, was the closer. Lifehouse played the opening, and they had just... Hanging by a moment had just come out, which was a song that I do still kind of like. I think it's got a pretty good hook when it comes to the chorus. Scott, I think you're really going to like this live version of Birdhouse and your soul from severe tire damage. Matchbox 20 closed.

And I will say this was, I believe, around the time of the third Matchbox 20 album. Turn the door. And it, which is actually a pretty good, it has bright lights. It is like, she got out of town. That's the piano song. And it's, it's, they sounded great is really what I'm trying to say. Matchbox 20 sounded great. And I haven't seen them for years,

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