Podcast: The Ride - Raging Waters with Rachel Bloom
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FOREVER!
DOG! and star Rachel Bloom takes us to the only theme park with rides guaranteed to make you wet your pants.
It's Raging Waters on Podcast The Ride, a show about theme parks hosted by three guys who shower in pure chlorine so they always smell water park fresh.
I'm Scott Gerter, joined by Mike Carlson.
Yep, I'm here and I do that.
Yeah.
Yes.
True premise, not a joke. Jason Sheridan is here as well. Yep, I'm here and I do that. Yeah. Yes. True premise, not a joke.
Jason Sheridan is here as well.
Yeah, I love it.
The smell of chlorine or just like...
I do like it.
Yeah.
I do too.
But if it's too strong, I get a headache.
I was thinking though, the smell of Splash Mountain is my favorite theme park smell,
I think.
Oh, really?
I guess I was saying we should do like a whole bracket for theme park smells and maybe I
just reveal it already.
Oh, you're getting that away?
Yeah.
Well, but that's... Now we know what you're coming into the bracket with.
It doesn't mean we're all going to agree.
Are we announcing that casually?
I guess I just made an announcement.
I'm sorry.
If this is your first.
Still workshopping.
If this is your first podcast, The Ride, there may be an exciting episode determining what is the best fake theme park smell.
Yeah.
But stay tuned for that.
Let's ask our guests
First things first
Yes, let's bring our guest in
You know her from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Her monthly show at Largo
She's got a tour
This is Rachel Bloom, everybody
Hi
She's here on podcast
Thanks for being here
It's my pleasure
I have so many things to say already
Yes, please
Haven't they started
Hasn't Disney started releasing candles
That smell like the rides?
Disney is not officially releasing those
Those are third party offshoot companies
Trying to approximate the smells
They have not actually released official Disney smells
But it's surprising Disney has not jumped on that
Yeah because everything else
They've turned into such like
Meta product whores of themselves
Like everything in the park now is like
stuffed versions of their snacks and you can get like you can get dresses and fanny packs now
that like pay homage to like other merchandise yes sure a magnet that looks like a churro
aware of like what their of what their brand is I mean they really have found a way to cater to
like the pass holders who are going
there every single day
who are in the biker gangs which I'm sure
you've heard about those what do they call the
I mean they all have different names
the social clubs yeah which are like
basically like
I guess pacifist gangs
that go to Disneyland which have kind of died
out in the last few years.
Oh, really?
They like peaked a little.
You don't see them as much.
You see like the cuts every now and then.
But how has Disney not played into that?
How have they not started to sell the vests themselves?
I think it's hard to.
Oh, right.
Well, they don't want to encourage like gang stuff, I think.
But if you think about it, mickey mouse club was kind of
a gang to begin with everybody they're representing that's colors they have their names on it patches
so really they they they're responsible for they would kill in his name i think so yeah they would
rough up the little rascals cubby was bloodthirsty i want to get one of those candles though I mean I yeah man the Disney smells
Are yeah it's hard I have a few
Of them they're not
Perfect because like a lot
Of the smells that we like are chemicals
Or some sort of compound
Bromine one of them is bromine
It's like stuff you can't actually
Put into a candle and make you hoof
Because you're not supposed to
So I don't so it's like it's hard
to approximate some because some of the smells are just old building some of the smells are like
weird thing you add to water to make sure it's not poison if it gets into kids mouth
what's like wait what smells what smell is that i'm saying i think it's industrial grade bromine
is like one of the smells that you associate with theme parks.
It's like stronger than chlorine. And like in Pirates of the Caribbean's water and stuff.
I could be totally wrong about this.
That's what's in like the water instead of chlorine?
I think it's got chlorine too.
We talked about this a while back and I forget what episode it was on.
But like that is what your brain is smelling that you are associating positively to.
But in terms of extracting it to put into a candle scent, it's kind of impossible.
It's probably illegal.
Although, I don't know.
Is there a Juul?
Is there like a, is there a Juul pot of Splash Mountain scent?
Oh my gosh.
I mean, if you wanted to market to kids any better than Juul already has.
I know, right?
That's so smart.
That is, I would start vaping instantly.
Oh, that's a billion dollar idea.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If I could breathe in E.T. Pine as a Jewel flavor,
yep, I'm addicted right away.
There was a time when we were at Disney,
when they still had that projection of Davy Jones on Pirates.
It's gone now again
Really?
Yeah they got rid of it like a year ago
But what are they doing
What are they doing that tunnel now?
It's like it used to be
The skull is back
They add a little like kind of
It's not an animatronic
But they added like a little character
That when you go by him
He turns from a skeleton into a man
Which is very cool
It transitions you
Like now the story makes sense
that it's there and i swear i saw david oh um he so so a guy when that was still there a guy was
had his jewel out and he right when it came up he looked into the air and he like
blew a big plume of like strawberry vape at Davy Jones.
He's fighting him. That guy's cool.
Yeah, actually, I don't usually think that
stuff's cool, but in that instance. So you like
that. I kind of think that's neat. Were you with us?
No, I don't think I was. Jason, you were
with me, right?
I can't remember. We talked
about it once. He's fighting steam
with steam. But we got a full blast of
strawberry vape in our face
because if i were like 17 years old i'd fuck that guy that's like that would be like the sexiest
thing i ever saw so so i should begin by saying like i'm obsessed with amusement parks yeah i
grew up in southern california uh i'm an only child so i grew up with it was like me and my
parents and i was like they're kind of like being an only child, so I grew up with it was like me and my parents, and I was like, they're kind of like
being an only child, especially when you have
whimsical parents, it feels like you're just their
idiot sidekick. And so my parents
were also obsessed with amusement parks.
And so we got a year-long pass to
Disneyland when I was six,
and I would go on school
nights. I mean, I really, Disneyland
is like where I grew up.
I would go to Knott's constantly
Six Flags a little less and then Raging Waters
Which I'm here to really talk about
But like that was my first
And I gotta say like I think my only water park
I think I've only ever just been to Raging Waters
But I this stuff is
Incredibly like
It's
Incredibly like near and dear to my heart
I mean I really
Being an imagineer was like
A close second career
And then I realized I was terrible at physics
Yeah that's the bummer about it
It does involve you know science and math and numbers
And stuff that I can only assume none of us
Are very good at
Yeah that's fair I guess
But we throw a lot of
Ideas out on the podcast that we think are very good.
So somebody else could work out the physics of it.
But I think we need more of that.
And they have people to, every ride has a writer because my husband and his writing partner wrote
The Secret Life of Pets Ride for Universal Studios Florida.
We've heard this through the rumors.
Oh, interesting.
And I don't know if there's an, I mean, whatever, it's fine but but i don't know when the ride's opening or if it's next summer
okay so it's here it's oh it's down the street okay yeah so about uh five years ago they got
hired to write this ride and they partially took it because my husband knew how much I'd like geek out over this. And we went to Disney World so that they could they could kind of go on rides.
And then we went around Universal Studios with some of the people who create the rides at Universal Studios.
We went to Harry Potter World with some of the like creators.
And I don't know what the term it's not imaginary universal, but with some of the people who created the things at Harry Potter World.
And it was, it was, I mean, it was, it was unbelievable.
And my husband's not, he likes amusement park.
He's not an amusement park guy.
My husband's writing partner is actively kind of scared of roller coasters.
So he got over some of those fears, some of those fears on that trip.
But every, every ride has a writer.
And now that I'm thinking about it, I don't have a job right now i could easily like you can take a meeting request to write yeah oh man that's
all i want to do actually wait what the fuck am i doing here goodbye make some calls come back if
you want but we understand we can tell you the fastest way to get to the Flower Street campus. You're on campus.
Oh, you're right there, right?
We're very close.
Yeah.
Really close.
Wild.
But I love it.
Oh, if you want to see the worst written ride, the Six Flags has a...
Justice League?
Yes.
We haven't done it yet.
Holy fucking shit. The writing on the Justice League ride it's
the worst writing you've ever seen right it's a lot it's a lot so it's full-on two-person audition
scenes that last like that so the opening the opening like movie to let you know what the
Justice League ride is about it's a scene I want to say like between, I think it's Joker and Harley Quinn with bad, like bad
terrible CGI and it's
them just talking. It's them just
shooting the shit for, I want to say
10 minutes and
you, and it's like, it feels
like people in a scene study class doing
a bad audition scene. And it's not
the last one. There's a few of those
scenes. No, it's filled with few of those scenes oh i'm doing it
in a week i'm going in a week oh yeah you gotta go on this it's it's some of the weirdest fucking
writing it's so and and you're you know it's for like a bunch of people there who are like
i mean anywhere from like you know six to thirty 36. But no one cares about the writing of the Justice League ride.
It's terrible.
It was made by a company called the Sally Corporation, who we've talked about on the show before.
They made a very short lived ride for a hard rock themed theme park in Myrtle Beach based on the moody blues song knights in white satin so trying to turn that and it's very it
there's a full video ride through of it online on their like official youtube channel on the
sally corporation channel and it's a trip but it's like they definitely went uh very ethereal with it
it's not a literal translation because it's i mean it's kind of a nonsense song anyway they're better at doing rides based on songs based on dc universe where there's inherent context and well i guess they're
better they're better doing poetic rides yeah rather than like with a coherent narrative
i mean it's hard to get into a ride i just it just dawned on me as i was we were talking about
this that getting finding an excuse for why the ride exists is very similar to like finding an excuse for why sex exists in porn.
It's the same type of right.
It's the same type of like you have to find the antidote, but you have to suck his dick or you have to find the antidote.
So get in this mine car.
Yeah.
You know, it's the same kind of like stretch of the imagination.
Like, why do people need 16 strangers to perform a task in mass?
You have to come up with very contrived reasons.
Or something goes wrong.
Like, this is not at all how this tutoring session was supposed to go.
Yes.
And it's immediate.
But it's a thrilling experience now yes so you're telling me that
they're taking tourists it's the 1920s they're taking tourists into this temple
they've invented a jeep system and all you have to do is close your eyes and you'll be rewarded
with riches and like scientists aren't studying this They're just allowing tourists to go in.
But the tourists are in to find Indiana Jones as well.
They've started charging.
Oh, Indiana Jones has disappeared, right.
They were already charging tourists to go in to make up the money that they were not
making because they had run over on their expedition or whatever it's called.
But the wisdom of crowds, if you give them one thing to do that is
one thing too many like keep your eyes closed everyone's immediately opening their eyes like
i think there should be a version of indiana jones where if everyone closes their eyes
you get a completely different ride and it's like a pleasant beautiful temple ride and at the end of
it you get a bunch of free snacks yeah that would be great that's the riches you'd have to get like
16 annual pass holders though to do it like you'd have to really formulate like 16 of us are going
or whatever no 12 12 of us are going it's gonna happen no i'm just saying it's not gonna happen
i'm not saying i believe it to happen i'm just saying there's always gonna be that one fucking
kid who's gonna open their eyes and yeah our Yeah, our grandma is going to look. Come on, grandma.
I would love the giant Mara head to say,
like, thank you for listening to me,
respecting our culture.
No one ever does this.
Yeah.
Every ride, I guess, has the version where it's fine.
Star Tours, you just fly to Endor and Rex lets you out and says,
so watch your head on the way out
and thanks for flying with us.
I wish that if you didn't put your hands up
on the Guardian's ride, he'd go,
what are you doing?
I asked you one thing.
I said you gotta put your hands in the air.
And it's like, what are you doing?
Just like it's a standoff until it happens.
They're gonna kill Star-Lord.
No, he's dead.
He's on your hands now.
Ah, goddammit. He just leaves. Yeah. No he's dead He's on your hands now God damn it
He just leaves
Yeah
There's only so many real setups
They can do I think really too
With a ride like now especially if it's like
Kind of an actiony ride
But it used to be that rides would just start and there isn't
Like we don't know why we're in Snow White's
Forest or going to Pleasure Island Well because there's a narrative inherent in that i mean i i think i have a certain respect for things like
matterhorn or big thunder or space mountain where it's like you know what you're on a ride enjoy the
ride there's no like there's no like mountain explorers you need to find the abominable snowman
yes so we've we've invented a track made of ice uh but but beware
if you don't collect the urine sample by the end of the track you will be in a wet splashdown zone
you know this open house has gone terribly wrong there is a good chance it involves an open house
that goes wrong yeah they're yeah space mountain's the best one because the name space
mountain doesn't make any sense and they never explain it there's speculation of it but like it
just doesn't they're just yeah you're in a rocket it doesn't matter yeah space mountain it's fine
you're in space doesn't matter yeah i think no one and like only we are paying attention to
any of this most people plot no most people don't give a shit i mean the thing that always bothered
me about tower of terror was that Tower of Terror
was an unfinished story. So you're
telling me, okay, I'm going to go on a freight
elevator just for funsies. I'm going to
get struck by lightning and I'm going to disappear
along with the people who disappeared
in the 30s. So when I exit the ride
for all intents and purposes,
I should be dead. There is no
explanation of why I'm suddenly alive
again that always
bothered me about tower of terror that's a good point yeah you you they should explain like oh
you just missed it you just missed dying like good for you thursday never mind hey good luck
good work yours was weaker lightning than what hit the old man and the little girl yeah it should
just be you it should just be you like oh should just be you. Oh, yeah. That thing is like
the ride should end
and you just come on
and you go,
oh, never mind.
Just me.
I just explained every...
Oh, hey, what's up?
Hey, just to let you know
real quick,
you got weak lightning.
Thank God.
Anyway,
merch is available
so step this way.
Man, jeez.
Lucked out.
Man, everything worked out.
That famous Rod Serling phrase.
Oh, hey, man.
Just to let you know real quick.
Oh, what's up?
Welcome back from the 30s.
So anyway.
Right?
Rock on, man.
It just ends.
It just ends.
Like Haunted Mansion has a, says like a ghost is going to follow you home.
And then for the rest of your life, you're then haunted by the Hatbox Ghost.
That I can deal with.
Yeah.
And the fact that they don't need
proof that he can be invisible wait the hatbox ghost is that the right reference well
i think it's unclear which ghost he's not he he's not in one of the
confusingly there is one of them has a big top hat so he's hatbox ghost that's why i think it's
like gus is one of them i forget the other two gus he's Hatbox Ghost. That's why I think it's the Hotbox Ghost.
Gus is one of them.
I forget the other two.
Gus is a name of one of them.
One of their names is Gus.
One of their names is Gus.
One of their names is Gus.
Didn't know that one.
Yeah.
So that's a fact.
But that's fine.
I can live with that.
So I've gone on the Haunted Mansion ride.
So a ghost is now always following me.
Right.
Yes.
That is a great narrative.
Easy.
Great for me to take home.
Yeah.
I guess is Tower the most incomplete narrative of all the rides?
It does feel like it off the top of my head.
Well, Little Mermaid skips the entire end of the movie.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, but it ends with them happy ever after.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, just in the background, Ursula's drowning.
Just sinking.
It's like they ran.
I think they just ran out of.
They wanted to do all the big musical set pieces
I mean that's the problem
With most
Especially Disney musicals
Is you have
Once you get to like
The plot of Act 3
You can't have
Musical numbers anymore
Because musical numbers
Inherently are a
Stop in the plot
Oh sure
And so that's why
The kind of third act
Of any Disney movie
Is arguably the most
Forgettable
Yeah yeah yeah
Because you Or a little like
let's just get let's you just want to get let's just get let's just get to the end like unless
you have like a reprise like in aladdin with the prince ali or you have the mocking prince ali
pocahontas does it very well actually pocahontas has like the moment where they're going into um
savages savages that's like their kind of act one finale. That's going into kind of the darker, plottier parts.
But anyway, Little Mermaid is a testament to they put the musical numbers in.
And once you're done with all the musical numbers, you just want to skip to the fucking end.
Yeah, because it's just like, yeah, it's fighting for a while.
You don't want to just be in two fighting scenes in a row in a ride.
You know what kind of does it?
Kill the Beast a little bit
and beauty and it's like not you're exactly right but they maybe that's a that's like a section that
can work is the like building to the to the big fight and then once you get into the fight it's
more of the battle is in itself kind of a a musical number like the way that battle is in
beauty and the beast is very it's scored it. It's very like fun. It's the
it's another fun and games
set piece. Right. Because the furniture
is like a drawer hits a guy in the face.
That's fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny. We like that.
Doesn't be our guest get reprised
in that instrumentally?
Yes, it is.
Is there not a Beauty and the Beast ride anywhere?
They're building one in Japan.
And there have been some videos showing the bell robots and the horse.
And it looks unbelievable.
I'm surprised they're not building it in Paris.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a good point.
Well, Paris is weird and cheap.
I got to go to Euro Disney.
Have you been to Euro Disney?
I went.
I've had a lot of, like, gripes, I feel like.
Really?
How was your...
Well, I went...
I was champagne tasting. and then we were champagne
tasting and champagne I was there with my friend Brendan because I was there for a press thing
and I went wait it was like 4 p.m. I was like Brendan you realize what we're close to I was
like Euro Disney and I was like let's fucking go he's like it closes in two and a half hours and
I was like I don't care so we did all we managed to do every major attraction in
euro disney in like an hour and a half wow so i remember i loved crush's coaster i didn't get i
didn't get to do i wasn't willing to wait that line was fucking awesome i want to say it's like
a rotating yeah it's like spinning you're surfing with crush but it's like a roller coaster as well
uh the ratatouille ride was great.
Yeah, that's really good.
Yeah.
I clearly couldn't do both, I think, in the morning I had there.
Yeah, I think because we went in February when no one was there towards the end of the day.
Sure.
We got on things.
But what were your gripes with Disneyland?
Why was there in December where it is so bitterly cold and you can tell That this used to be like a
Brittle farmland essentially
And they
It was like because the weather was bad they like
Closed half the restaurants
And it was just weird and understaffed
And we scanned our own tickets on the way
In it was just kind of
Yeah that was the weirdest we just have like crumpled
Pieces of paper and we scan them
Ourselves in the mall outside it
I don't know if you
Wandered around there
That's like a nightmare
Are you sure this wasn't a dream?
Yeah
Yeah
That's actually
I do have like stressed dreams
Where Disneyland is bad
In some way
Or like something
Something bad happened to it
This sounds like
Where you scan yourself in
Like I've had dreams
About Disney all the time
Where the ride breaks down
And I get to walk on the land
Like I suddenly
Snow and I get to walk
Among the dolls Of It's a small world like sure this trippy like rearrange disneyland's a perfect
place for like the things to surreally rearrange themselves yeah in your head well like if you
have you ever seen the videos of nara dreamland it's like a toki or and i don't know it's in
japan but it's a rip-off dis Disney park That's closed now And it's abandoned
Oh that's that one
But it has like a rip-off
Sleeping Beauty castle
On a main street
So there's like
Urban explorers
Go through it
And it's like
Overgrown hedges
Grass
And it's the creepiest
Nightmare
Because it's a surreal
Disneyland
Oh no
That's abandoned
Oh I really want
I'm going to look
I'm going to look that up
Nara Dreamland
Nara Dreamland
Yeah
Very creepy
Don't
Yeah
Don't get killed
Or have a wild animal
Don't explore
Yeah
Seems like a dangerous
Place potentially
There's an abandoned
Amusement park in
It's Florida right
It's Disney's
River country
That's what it is
Yeah
But did they take it
Did they rip it up already
They were building a hotel over
Yeah they finally Ripped it up yeah yeah because it was discovery island is still
abandoned oh yeah island in the middle of the body of water by magic kingdom where you used to be
able to go and see exotic animals and stuff and they eventually shut that down it's just it's just
a it's in the middle of a body of water Every now and then someone inflates an inflatable raft close by and rows out to it.
And there's just like sheds, sheds still with like stuff in them.
The animals are all gone, except the wild animals that have taken the island back.
The creepy detail, I always say that there's a shed that's just full of vultures that have never been outside.
There's just dozens and dozens of indoor vultures who are
malformed is that true i believe so i think so no way yeah yeah it might not be as scary as what
i'm describing preserved animals like you know when they preserve like something like jelly or
james no like like uh an embryo like an animal embryo and stuff. There's still some of that.
That's horrifying.
Yeah.
Well, like it's like Jurassic Park abandoned.
Basically, yeah, kind of.
This is a great opening to a horror movie.
This is the cold open of a movie called Discover.
And we're recording the podcast.
And then the title comes on.
It goes like, Discover.
And then you cut to people who are like with backpacks on with a handheld camera being like,
Okay, we're going to go see Discovery Fun Time.
Should be fun.
They all die.
And they all die.
That podcast said it was a good idea.
We haven't mentioned this on the show, but some listeners brought us a gift from the abandoned Hard Rock Park.
Oh, right.
Which is still there and they brought us what looks like
brand new merchandise from hard rock park because it's just sitting somewhere in a warehouse
inland inland from the ocean okay so it was poorly promoted and it was far from like the main drag. So they went in it.
So it's just, you can just, what, it's, it's what, fenced it, like it's boarded up?
I don't think it's even fenced or boarded.
They showed me a picture of just a giant warehouse with merch strewn on the floor.
Holy shit.
And it's like, and if you see it, it looks new.
It doesn't look like dirty or anything.
Also, all of that was supposed to be destroyed per the bankruptcy agreement and it clearly wasn't but now but now it's there but literally as i was getting out of the car i saw a headline
on my phone or a tweet on my phone that said mysterious fire at old theme park like
yeah there was a fire down there so who knows if that merchandise is still
there we might have some of the last what was it again what did we get i forget it's like a water
bottle it was like a big water bottle in the shape of a guitar i think it's a bag it's a plastic bag
look all of it looks brand new what is the fascination with hard can it can because there
are people who have to go to hard rocks in every city.
Have you talked about this on the podcast?
Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah, this has been my take a little bit.
What is it?
I don't even know.
It's a cafe that celebrates rock and roll.
What love all circle?
That has no food definition whatsoever.
I don't know what kind of food it is even.
No, it's terrible food.
Really bad food.
So what?
But it's like you can order like Joe Perrye perry macaroni sometimes i know the story behind so uh i believe the initial
uh impetus of it was like the founders couldn't find a good burger in london
and they had some rock and roll connections so they're like hey can we get some guitars
we're gonna open this restaurant that does burgers and stuff and then at some point they were also like we can
do barbecue because they have like a decent like a and they bought like they bought 300 guitars from
scott wyland and chris cornell and that's it and that's all just only velvet revolver will be
shown in this.
So, but what's the thing?
The people have to go to the Hard Rock in every major city, like, and get the merchandise.
My friend's mom loves merchandise from every Hard Rock.
Wow.
And she's not the only one.
Yeah, I mean, they're very popular because they're still around.
They've been around for years.
And it's like.
I mean, I used to do it from when I was a kid with Planet Hollywood. If there was a Planet Hollywood somewhere, we went on vacation because I loved the movies.
But like...
Were they different in each location?
They all had different props.
Oh, okay.
There's still two or three hanging on.
But like, yeah, you go to the one...
First of all, I've never had a good meal at the one at universal i've been there like
maybe three times in 10 years it's horrible and it's horrible yeah and it's like what is
even the identity of the hard hard what does hard rock mean to them well does it mean gwen
stefani because that's in there the restaurant doesn't mean lenny kravitz the restaurant is
different than the hotel chain.
You're like a spokesman for Hard Rock today.
But it's all owned by the Seminole tribe now, too.
What?
That's another development.
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
They own the Hard Rock company now.
That's great.
Mm-hmm.
Well, that makes me want to support them.
Yeah.
All right.
This is good.
It's a little mom and pop organization.
Is Rock and Roller Coaster Hard Rock? and roller coaster hard rock no no no that's
i mean it rocks it's certainly yeah it's all yeah it's still it is for the best tribute to hard rock
out there it's ending in paris though it just closed oh you know the one in paris i went on
it was very bumpy okay well they aren't changing the trick. They're just saying, hey, this is Iron Man now.
Oh, never mind.
Same shit.
Oh, they're just closing it to make it more relevant.
I think so, yeah.
That actually brings up a good, you as a music person, favorite music in the park, favorite music related attraction.
I mean, I assume it's Aerosmith.
I assume Aerosmith's number one forever.
Yeah, of course.
I love any anytime a roller coaster
has music associated with it so I loved the old California Screamin track I think I ride that was
great um are you mad that it uh changed no no I think Incredicoaster is also very good actually
I have a prop I have a very I have very mixed feelings about and this is everything now about
rides that center around movie properties because you inherently have to know the movie to appreciate the ride and the ride promotes the movie.
I'm a big fan of rides that contain their own narrative that tell their own story.
I mean, which is what Pirates of the Caribbean used to be, which is what Haunted Mansion kind of still is. And then they made that
terrible movie, but no one really talks about it.
So if you gave me a billion
dollars, I would start
an amusement park where
the rides didn't feed into any sort of
book or movie. The rides told their own story.
So that's just a little bit of a
problem. It's a problem
that I have with Disneyland that
now everything is just
feeding into a disney property there's no unique story anymore sure um and it is and it is what it
is and i'm not saying california screaming was a story it was just the theme was the theme i mean
because i remember when it first opened the theme was just celebrating california and yeah it was a
little boring my dad actually wrote an angry letter to california and yeah it was a little boring my
dad actually wrote an angry letter to disney saying how boring it was i don't think he was
the only one i know yeah yeah no so he was really we were really bored but but looking back on it
there was something really noble about that where it was like you know what we're just gonna fucking
celebrate california and we're gonna have this old- fashioned boardwalk and you can go and make tortillas at the Mission Tortilla Factory.
And and then they just were like, fuck it, it's cars.
I've never seen cars.
I love the cars ride.
I don't really understand why the cars are talking.
I mean, I get it.
The cars are talking.
All I have to do is see cars once.
But it it always just it always just, it bothers me.
It bothers me that everything now has to feed into a property that you have to have seen to fully appreciate the ride.
Sure.
And you know, you talk about, we talk about like ride stories.
I think they're almost the most likely to be confusing if you need to have seen the film.
Yeah.
I'm more lost than, I mean mean I guess Indiana Jones is one too
Have you done Avatar in Florida?
Have you been to Orlando in a while?
No
I haven't been
I haven't been recently enough
To do Avatar
It's
That's the most confusing thing
Ah
It shouldn't be
You're just on the back
Of a monster
Of the mighty Akron
Of course
We remember
Yeah
From the movie
The thing that he tames
Yeah the Banshee
But then like all he does
Is just flying And you enjoy it That's really what they should say hey get on the back of that thing and
enjoy it but it's not it's like three different rooms of explaining how you're going to be
downloaded into an avi and then you're getting on here and now you have to scan your heat signature
also scanning like guardians they're getting scanned everywhere both roadie both roadie
attraction joe roadie attraction we like scans i just saw a joe roadie uh lecture and he did cover this he talked about
okay he did talk about this because uh and this was very funny because a friend had written the
roundup of like uh here's i'm like you wrote the article for the la times about like i'm concerned ip coming out of d23
is so much intellectual property based attractions is this kind of killing the theme parks and the
curator when interviewing joe rody brought up this article and this guy was like white knuckling
like oh my god he was there oh and so rody's theory is that like they're every every piece you know if you think
about like the film school or art school you're given a prompt for a project so as imagine years
they're given a prompt for an attraction or they're giving a topic or something and then
they have to go back to zero anyway because they have to try to then make it work for ages 8 to 80 and every person people
from all over the world coming to see it and i think his theory is that when done at the highest
level done on the best attractions that does work like it doesn't matter if you don't know the
property will give from when you come into the queue to when you'll leave you will understand this whole experience do they always accomplish that it's clearly up
for debate how was that that lecture sounds like a blast did you get wasted yeah i got hammered
got hammered and fell down the hill at the getty but that makes a lot of sense because i i i want
to say i rode star tours before before I ever saw Star Wars.
And Star Tours makes sense.
Like, it's a coherent narrative.
Indiana Jones makes sense.
You're in a temple.
And they also have that great introductory video before.
And Cars doesn't have to necessarily make sense.
Guardians does not make sense.
Like, Guardians is tougher.
It's a tougher one.
But it's so fun. I it's it's yeah it's really fun that's i think are we just all worried about the is this a slippery slope
situation are we worried this is gonna get i'm worried about marvel i'm worried that i need to
have seen all that well there's gonna be as a marvel is gonna they have a cinematic universe
of course but they're going to have a theme park universe which is a different uh continuity than the movie than the movie which
is different than the comic book one parks but maybe he's spoiler alert dead in the movies yeah
so like that's going to be a whole nother thing that you'll have to learn well that's why harry
potter does it i mean yes i love harry potter world well i like harry potter world i like harry potter world and harry
potter world specifically it takes place in the start of book three right because you have those
wanted serious black posters around right and the kid and they're like kids forever they're kids
forever i mean the thing that bothers me about harry potter land is i there's no escaping this
because it's made by warner brothers it's meant to promote the movies everything is strictly looks like the movies yeah yeah which when i read the books i don't picture
people wearing like muggle clothing with a robe i picture just robes so like the quidditch stuff
in the movies is kind of this you know it's it's like athletic it's like athletic like armor
with a robe that's just kind of like attached to it
but the way it's described in the book is just rubs there there are all these little things where
where i just i'm like oh when i'm in harry potter land i'm not completely immersing myself in the
fantasy of the books because it's the movies right and there are certain things that differ
in the movies from the books and then also daniel radcliffe is not how i picture harry potter
oh that's just been a
problem right right i mean i don't i don't picture the way i picture harry run and hermione are
different than the actress who played them sure and it does feel like well because like what i
want i have not read the books i've seen all the movies but i've been told by people to read the
books so the books are like way better than the movies are fine yeah they're fun but obviously
that's the one that's the thing people associate more. So they want people just to recognize, oh, that's Harry Potter.
I know him.
I would much rather the rides be based on like the illustrations of Mary Grandpre who did all the books than the movies because it takes me out of it a little.
But that's also me being like a dork who wants to go to an amusement park and really fully imagine that i'm
in this experience and i'm never going to fully imagine that i'm in harry potter world when i see
the actors playing harry ron and hermione that i know aren't really harry ron and hermione right
because it would actually be but it would be more immersive if you didn't recognize the people
in a weird way of like well that's actually them that them. That's not the movie versions. Those are the,
these are people I don't,
would you,
yeah,
I guess that's what I'm saying.
Like,
you'd be like,
well,
those are the real ones.
They're on the ride,
but they're not the actors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of what I'm like.
If they cast different actors for the land,
then those would actually be the real ones.
You know what?
That's a great idea.
And I completely agree with that. Yes, totally. And I know what that's a great idea and i completely agree with that yes totally
and i know that that's completely not how capitalism works right and and that's exactly
the opposite what they want they want to be promoting the movies but yeah that's kind of
what i'm craving i'm just kind of craving it being a being an immersive being an immersive
land i mean i like harry potter the forbidden journey but also
um i just kind of would love to immerse myself in the world and not necessarily see the characters
from the books yeah that makes sense i mean you're living in the world you're not seeing
you're not helping harry ron and hermione you're just kind of like living your life as a wizard
there is something different between like when you go on a ride that's like ip ride versus haunted
mansion where it's like it's like wreck like, I recall that this looks like the thing I watched on TV versus like,
I'm wandering into an experience.
I'm wandering into something that is totally different.
I can't get it at home.
I can't get any version of it in a book or at home.
And it's truly special in this place.
And that's it.
And maybe Florida and Tokyo.
Does Indiana Jones like almost accidentally hit this the best because Harrison Ford isn't involved? truly special in this place and that's it and maybe florida and tokyo does indiana jones like
almost accidentally hit this the best because harrison ford isn't involved so you get like
glimpses of indie but it's not like there's not a monitor and fra on your jeep where harrison
ford is giving you instructions and maybe it's all happening to you and it's a new story yeah
yeah and the fact that's and also like star tours isn't c3p and r2d2 are in it but it's
not like well you know well new star tours now the new characters appear in the window as opposed to
this is sort of its own thing and i don't know who that pilot is who shows up and rex is only
only in that and no original star tours was that whole that new character the pilot who
keeps fucking up and my favorite character in fiction
rex on our show it's your first ride it's my first time too and he's djing now dj now have
you gotten to go have you gotten to see him dj oh no i haven't what is he in the cantina yeah
so i couldn't get over there i couldn't get into oh yeah i couldn't get into the cantina
because by the time i went i went to one of the preview days, but tickets were already
sold out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because it was a mad dash to get there.
Yeah.
It would be like, I saw a person get trampled running to get to the cantina.
And then most people didn't help.
I was way behind, so I didn't even have a chance to help them.
But they were-
You would have loved to.
There were at least five-
That's what you'll tell the judge yeah of course uh there are five to seven people who just ran over the person that's
so fantastic and now you can just make a reservation on the app you can yeah yeah yeah they should have
done that from the beginning you would think you would think that would make sense so can i say
i hated the blue and green milk? Yeah, sure.
Well, that didn't taste like milk.
It was a fruit smoothie.
It was like a shitty vegan fruit smoothie.
And I understand you don't want to make people sick.
But when I picture blue milk, I don't picture a fruit smoothie.
If you don't want people to get sick from all the dairy,
do a sweetened almond milk or a sweetened cashew milk.
But instead, it's fruity?
Nah, it's bullshit. That fight said they played the color and not not the word it's called blue milk so milk is sort of if they call it something different maybe yeah but it's but the whole
thing is you drink blue milk do they call it blue milk in the movie yeah they do like say uncle
owen i want my blue milk or something? I'm not.
Milk cup is empty.
Ambro is like, finish your blue milk.
I am 85% sure they do.
I can't remember if they do.
Why would we all call it milk?
It's not milk.
It's not the consistency of milk.
It's like a fruit smoothie.
And I got to say, like, kind of a shitty smoothie.
I think my take on it has become, i was expecting to not like it at all
and then i liked i tried both and i liked both for like four sips and then it started to become
how am i not this is a pretty crazy flavor to be drinking a lot of and not getting drunk
like this that i'm not getting the reward of uh a little buzz and i'm just sucking down so much
sugar and weird artificial. I think maybe in
Florida you can get a shot. Yes.
That's the point.
So that would improve the entire thing. Yeah. I think so.
But when you think about Butterbeer at Harry Potter World, like Butterbeer
is amazing. Yeah. Like Butterbeer
really lives up to like, you know what?
Especially when you get it hot, like, yeah, that's
exactly how I pictured Butterbeer tasting and
more. And especially when you get it with some whiskey
in it. Yeah.
I mean, I forgot about the bits are off.
I was at Universal the other day.
And like when I am up there, I can just like passively consume butter.
Like I'll just like get it without even thinking and drink it.
Like it's.
You go into like a coma?
No, but like I will not even hesitate to get it in the way of like, oh, do I really feel like this blue milk today?
Like getting water out of the fridge.
You're not even like, okay, butterbeer.
Yeah, basically.
But I also, the other day, it was so hot and I had a sore throat.
And I was like, oh, wait, there's frozen butterbeer.
And it felt great.
Like, I felt so much better.
It was so soothing.
Frozen for a sore throat, not a warm.
Well, it was like 98 degrees up on top of that hill so i think i i wanted to cool down and also soothe my throat
frozen butterbeer is it's delicious would you recommend it for a sore throat though uh anything
anything cold for a sore throat is really it was great for a cold not in the long run because it's
so much dairy and sugar it's gonna probably fuck your immune system but to soothe your throat yeah huh yeah daily butter
beer i'm always warm for sore throat but maybe i'm doing it wrong like a supersize me with just
butterbeer you drank butterbeer for 30 days all right that lives up to like the hype of like yeah
it's we've we've talked a little bit about
this on the show too it's like that one also from the way i've heard it described in the book in the
way kids like they talk about it in the movie it's like wow this magical great drink and i never j
except for jason who was the first person i ever heard say he watched star wars and was like gotta
try that blue milk like i was like oh that's some gross thing they're pouring in like
it's also not the name blue milk does not sound good it's like there's nothing magical it's not
like luke is like wow i gotta get back to tattooing during my delicious blue milk no but it's all the
idea of like immersion and fantasy and feeling i mean the the most i went with i went to harry
potter world a couple months ago with a bunch of my friends who like love Harry Potter. And our favorite thing was just drinking butter beer in the three broomsticks.
And then we like talked in British accents and pretending we were wizards.
Like that was my favorite part.
And you didn't have to,
I didn't have to look at like CGI Dan Radcliffe.
Cause I could just pretend I was in the books.
Yeah.
Okay.
You're not there to meet the characters,
especially the actors. No, no, I don. Yes. Okay. You're not there to meet the characters.
I don't give a shit.
Especially the actors.
No.
No.
I don't. You want it to, you're there.
I want it that I'm, I want it completely immersive that I'm, that I'm there.
I mean, they've been rumoring a Harry Potter hotel for so long, but that feels like if
they had a little, like, that feels like what you're saying, the ultimate version of it
is like, you're just living in it.
It's not so much of seeing the actors. It's just maybe they make a little restaurant bar and you just get to hang
out and pretend you're in hogwarts that's what i want because when i was there on a harry potter
night they also you can pose with like beau batons and derm string students but but i in the real
world beau baton students and derm string students wouldn't just be like around to pose with you
they'd be students they wouldn't they wouldn't just be waiting that doesn't that's not how harry potter works
yeah i think i took i won't i went to uh harry potter land with future guest erin whitehead and
she liked it but was very was like what did all these humans walk like she was really kind of
almost upset by like she is a big yeah she is she almost want you want there to be a dress code you want
everyone to have to be in a robe you want you want a dementor terrorist attack to be happening
suddenly that is because that happens on the ride first off you're in the middle of a quidditch match
it's like if you if you were on like a jet pack and just landed in a major league baseball
game but then also like an attack starts happening to a major league baseball game it's like wait i
just got over the jet pack guy why are there why are there swat people invading yankee stadium
didn't we get stuck in front of one of them oh in the front of the dementors yeah
i've gotten stuck in front of the giant spider i've gotten stuck in the room full of dementors
it's not a great place to just hang out oh you mean the ride breaking down yeah oh the ride broke
down when i was on and the and we just got the screen went out so then but the ride kept moving
so it was just going and we're like oh we're gonna if this goes on for 10 minutes we're gonna all throw up this is
yeah that's the most nauseous you're saying
we got stuck in the loop of moving
but the screens went out
so it was really weird
so all your mind is getting
then is like jerking movement
it's not even fooling you with the visuals
that you're going through space
you're just getting jerked around
I think it was the whomping.
I think it was in front of the whomping.
We got stuck.
I remember the music went out.
We were stuck.
We were static.
But there were still the music tracks
or the audio tracks of Harry.
So you just hear like,
get away from them.
And there was no music.
There was no nothing.
You just hear, hey, get away.
Like just, no, stop.
And then like every minute. And then we were just like just like upside not upside down but like staring at the ceiling
waiting for it to start when i wrote it the other day i actually got all the way through it but one
of the times they had accidentally left at the very end the uh i saw the maintenance bay they
left the lights on i was like oh that's where the maintenance bay is but for people like us i'm like
oh yes now i know where the maintenance bay is. But for people like us, I'm like, oh, yes, now I know where the maintenance bay is.
Nice, nice.
That happened on Pirates.
If you go by the pirate ship, sometimes you see the door where they send boats.
And the door will be open straight away.
And light was coming out of it once.
Oh, yeah.
I saw a guy drinking a coffee.
Hell yeah.
And then I was like, come on, can we go?
Send us into the maintenance bay.
I love Googling pictures of Space Mountain with the lights on.
Oh, yeah.
We got sent off to the left recently. I love Googling pictures of Space Mountain with the lights on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We got sent off.
We got sent off to the left recently.
We will tell that story at a different time.
Oh, yeah.
But we got sent.
We were going to Space Mountain and you go to the right and you go up the hill.
Oh, yeah.
We were going, going, going.
All of a sudden, we took a left and we went, what the hell?
There's another way.
What the fuck was the left?
Well, we're with a person that will be a guest, and we'll see if he wants to tell the story.
Honestly, we'll tell you after.
It's a little secret.
You can't tell this.
Well, I feel like your spoilers.
No, no, this is big news.
This is big news.
Yeah, this is a big, this is going to tease.
People are going to be like.
I'm trying to think of stuff.
Oh, have you guys seen Club 33?
Yes, we did.
We all did it together.
Great.
After the, you went to the, that's from Disneyland gallery.
I did.
We did a show there.
I know you were on Paul's show.
And we got to go to Club 33 with those, with the crafts.
Oh, real crafts.
Who did the, actually, yeah, yeah.
That's nice.
How was your, oh, wait, well, okay, yeah, Club 33, first of all.
Yeah, cool.
I mean, but you've talked about it on the podcast.
I was going to say, what do I know that, i'll tell you what i what i've done numerous times now that is is is the v is the vip
tour which anyone can do anyone can pay for it um but i because i'm like on tv i get it like so
when you pay the when you do the vip tour what you normally do is you just get like in the in
the fast pass lines on every ride, I think.
But because I'm on TV, I get in the exits.
And so I get to see the kind of behind the scenes of every ride.
And they're like, please don't take pictures.
It's very cool.
Oh, man.
Have you seen anything weird that we would know?
No, it's mostly, you know, it just reminds me of like when I worked at a restaurant.
Like you see like ship schedules and you see lockers and it's pretty, it's pretty what you would expect.
It's so strange that it's just a play.
But really it doesn't, you'd think that might ruin the magic.
But I find that magical too.
I find it cooler.
I like seeing the back because we come from the theater.
Sure.
You know, there's a backstage and then there's when you're on stage and so if you view the whole thing as a theatrical experience no it's
fine maybe makes you appreciate more that like but it isn't magic there's human beings putting
this together just like any job i use the star tours bathroom damn when i because i did i i went
with a person who's on tv so we got to to do that. The Star Tours. So many spoilers. The Star Tours, like, work bathroom?
Yeah.
We talked about that.
Jeff Garland.
It was Jeff Garland.
I'm out of here.
Jeff Garland.
Jeff Garland.
He took, but yeah, there's a, we went in like a little side door and the guy was like, do
you want to use the bathroom?
And I went, oh my God, of course.
There's a secret little bathroom.
It's not for regular guests, just for employees.
And they let me use it.
And I was thrilled.
What was it like?
You peed all over it. It was. You got it so messy yeah i marked it i marked my territory never be
the last to use the starter's bathroom uh it was unexciting um yeah it's like a standard
bathroom it was not like there was rex in there like cheering me on yeah it wasn't blue milk in
the toilet no there was no blue milk they're not spending the money on like the they're not
spending the money to like entertain the employees no no in fact they want the opposite yeah sure
sure um uh rachel did you uh bid on anything at the that's from disneyland exhibit yeah uh i i
bid and i and i got uh a the a poster from when splash mountain opened i want to say it's a poster
from 1989 um i got some um and i mean they're very cool but like they're they're these kind of
souvenir souvenir like i want to say 30th anniversary commemorative haunted mansion like
brick bookends oh great which was it was i guess it was it was a disney item that they were
selling at the time and i bid like looking back on it like way too much money on those
but that thing like i got to do an auction a couple years prior and it was not nearly as
that that that's from disneyland when everything spiked insanely like three times what the one i
went to was so when i went to the original auction it said the sky
bucket was going the starting price was six thousand dollars that's what it said so i really
thought and i was like and everything was like kind of so i really thought i could get this sky
bucket and i was like all right it's not going to be six thousand dollars maybe it'll go up to
fifteen thousand dollars and i was i was willing to spend like a chunk of change for that Disneyland sky
bucket.
Cause I rode the sky buckets as a kid.
I mean,
I have,
I not only have a video of sky buckets,
I have a video that my mom,
cause my mom grew up in Southern California.
There's a video of her and her parents at Disneyland in the,
in the sixties in a sky bucket.
So like that is a,
that is a huge,
Oh my God.
To have a sky bucket in my backyard.
Like that would have been the budget for like my backyard decoration.
Yeah. Just never. You don't spend that. No, no, no, no.
So I was I was prepared to buy a sky bucket. And then when they the fact that they had online voting.
So the starting the starting bid for the sky bucket was one hundred thousand dollars.
Oh, my God. As soon as it it began and you're there in person i'm there in
person i specifically wanted the sky bucket i think i went both days but i was like waiting
for the fucking sky bucket and when the starting bid came on at a hundred thousand a bid from
brunei has come in it was just it was devastating it was absolutely devastating because i was
fucking there i was there i was
there in the room and then drew carrie was a couple rows in front of me he tried to bid on a
dumbo car and he he was in the mix and the host of price is right is bidding in front of you and
he was in the mix and then it went up he was in the mix up until it was like maybe 350 000 and then like it
hit like half a million and he's like i'm out true carrie's tapping out drew carrie tapped out and
someone got it online and uh and i think he cried oh man it was it was it was absolutely
it was devastating you look i the sky bucket if I was like I get this for
Six thousand dollars that sounds great
Yeah
Not insane at all yeah you'd spend more than that
On like you know like redoing a counter
Or something I was shocked and then there was
A rocket rods car oh yeah we
Saw that which the guy told us
I got to do
It was a garbage ride Nicky craft Part of the auction, said that he would like part his like first car in high school.
He'd like get out of the garage and like, guys, watch the Rocket Rod.
He'd have to like.
It was parked in there.
Not ding it up with his car.
Oh, my God.
Growing up with a Rocket Rod in your garage.
That's very cool.
Did you do you did Rocket Rods?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I wasn't nostalgic enough to like want to buy a Rocket Rod car.
No, no. cool did you do you did rocket yeah yeah i mean i wasn't nostalgic enough to like want to buy a rocket rod car no no and that thing seemed like you it would require a real a team to move it to
get it anywhere yeah yeah i mean no one's really like missing rocket rods there's a reason the ride
so for those of you don't know rocket rods was a short-lived roller coaster that was built over
the people mover track of the people mover which is a ride that still exists in florida it doesn't
exist here and so it was a flat roller coaster yeah where they did not have the budget to bank the turns so you
slowed down at the turn and it wrecked the track so that the people mover could never come back
right and the and it just made it so being in tomorrowland for those two years it was open was
just like like the most unpleasant grinding every 10 seconds. Yeah, remember that?
Yeah.
The sound of tomorrow.
And it's like, really, if you think about it,
has like ruined Tomorrowland for the last 20 years.
Yeah.
Because there's no movement in it.
Those tracks are just sitting there unused.
Yeah.
Like the whole thing.
They're still there, right?
The track is, yeah.
Also, the law has changed where like,
if the people mover just kept going,
it would have been fine
because it would have been grandfathered in.
But there's portions of that ride
where you can reach out and touch the walls.
And now there has to be a certain,
you're not supposed to be able to touch the walls anymore
from like an attraction.
It is funny though,
because if it was just existing,
they'd be like, yeah, that's fine. Which doesn't make any sense well it's a classic it's a it's at
that point would have been a classic disney ride i mean it but it was like a 20 minute long ride
yeah yeah yeah it didn't really bliss out there yeah it was a way as i've said before as a way
to like because it goes into space mountain so it like got me accustomed to the feel of Space Mountain when I was too scared to go on the ride.
Yeah.
I miss the old line of Space Mountain.
I miss all those parody commercials.
Oh, you liked all that stuff.
I did.
I was a child.
I was like a child.
But like it was a it was a way to take up to take up the time.
Yeah.
Well, now you just now you just don't go in the building at all.
So there's not even like you're barely you have as little time in that tunnel as possible. Yeah. Well, now you just don't go in the building at all. So there's not even, like you're barely, you have
as little time in that tunnel as possible.
Yeah. So there wouldn't be time to watch the videos.
And you'd see the ride. I remember you'd
be watching the videos and there was a big window where you
could watch people on the ride, which was very enjoyable.
Oh, yeah, yeah. That stuff all, yeah.
They still, you can kind of see that in
the people mover in Florida still.
The last time I went, it felt like there was less of that.
But I could be wrong. Yeah. There were funny people, I feel like, and I don't quite remember who was in those Sp. Although the last time I went, it felt like there was less of that, but I could be wrong.
There were funny people,
I feel like,
and I don't quite remember who was in those Spaceman videos,
but I think somebody,
I think,
I believe the actress Kelly Caulfield
from In Living Color
was in it and funny in it.
And I'm blanking.
Somebody,
somebody famous is in those.
I'm sure they're all on YouTube.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll get to that at some point.
You guys wanted me to talk
about Raging Waters. We did. I'm rushing you through disney stuff because there's so much
there's so much to talk about but uh but yeah that is the when you when you sent us a couple
ideas it felt like that this has to be the thing because we we know about the history of crazy ex
girlfriend and raging waters it seems like it was like a little like you know a runner slash
slash obsession within the show uh uh and which seems like so that comes from your
upbringing like you grew up near you're like in san gabriel valley somewhere no i grew up manhattan
beach but i the reason the show takes place in san gabriel valley was because a guy that i was
in love with lived in the san gabriel valley and so like i i always tried to find excuses to go to
the san gabriel valley which is never a place that you'd try to find an excuse to go to.
And so once it was set in the San Gabriel Valley,
then they were like, okay, what's there?
And I remember talking to someone, I was like, all right,
so if you're living in West Covina, what are the cool jobs?
And they're like, in and out of Raging Waters.
Those are the two places you want to work.
And Raging Waters was and still is like the only water park
I've ever really been to.
It was the first water park I'd been to, definitely.
And that's where you went for special birthday parties when I was in middle school.
And so I became, I was like, oh, my God, we're doing, and I'm obsessed with amusement parks.
So I was like, guys, we're doing a show set right next to like a major water park.
We have to talk about it.
We have to do, that's so, it's so um it's just raging waters is such a
socal specific and so like yeah because the show always wanted to do a plot there it became rebecca's
like kind of um uh it became her paris it became like her dream to go to raging waters
and so when we finally got to shoot there it was I mean it was a whole thing where we we contacted them to shoot at Raging Waters they hadn't been getting back to us so then I was like
fuck it and I tweeted I want to shoot at Raging Waters uh they're not getting back to us who can
help me this guy Gary who I know at Warner Brothers knew the head of PR for Raging Waters
put me in touch with the head of Raging Waters
and we made it work.
And what they did was they opened up.
It had just shut down for the season in,
I want to say September.
And we wanted to shoot in November.
So there was still water,
like stagnant water in a couple of the rides.
They were about to drain the rides when we called
so they they left so they we managed we always wanted to set set a scene on this ride dark hole
which is an actual the actual name of the ride um and that that happened to have water in it so
what they did was you wanted dark holes we wanted dark hole we wanted wow and it's not the dark hole it is just dark dark hole it's just dark hole so they so they um
they had that running and then they had nettoons revenge running just as kind of background for us
so they got the rides moving but there was no there's no way to heat the water at raging waters
because when it's when it's hot out it's hot out or the maybe they have a heater
normally but the park wasn't
fully in service so they put water there
but it wasn't heated
so Skylar Astin
and I
when we rode Dark Hole
and I had a GoPro
in one of the shows basically we rode it about
five times and it was like
50 degree water
so they had they had heaters every time in one of the shows. Basically, we wrote it about five times and it was like 50 degree water.
So they had heaters. Every time we came
off the ride, they had heaters for us
and they had like
immediately would wrap us in warm towels.
And it was the one time that I have
imbibed
an alcohol on set. Just literally to keep
myself warm. Just to warm it.
I couldn't have done it. I couldn warm it i couldn't i couldn't have
done it i couldn't have done it uh i couldn't have done it sober it was it was really little
so we needed volunteers to go down the other slide just for like b-roll in the background
and little kids volunteered to do it uh because kids are crazy um but yeah skylar and i riding
dark hole over and over and over again and it's a it's a
it's an indoor you know it's an indoor dark ride so even colder than probably it was so cold it was
it was so so i think there's a i don't know if we use it but there's there's a scene where i'm
getting into the raft and i went to trick my brain i went oh, oh my God, the water feels so good. Oh, it's so warm.
The water is so warm.
I just kept saying this water feels so good.
Method, method.
It was so cold.
It was, it was so cold.
That sounds like something like you would see
on like a Mission Impossible
after they're explaining how to make it.
And it's like, I had to go in 50 degree water.
It was the coldest water I ever, like Tom yeah yeah well you hear that the making of like titanic
right it's like the water was really cold right because that sounds like you got blankets on it
sounds yeah yeah every time it was very it was very very very cold and so there is a
so i had a gopro i wish i could find this footage somewhere. So I had a GoPro for a couple of the times
I went down the water slide
and I was holding the GoPro when I got back,
when we, because they took a tram,
they would take us in a tram
back up to the entrance of the ride.
And at that point I was like drunk.
I was drunk and freezing.
I was like.
What'd you drink?
What was the?
I had some vodka.
Sweet.
I kept it very simple. I mean, this is actually, literally goes against everything and I was like what'd you drink what was the I had some I had some vodka sweet good
I kept it very simple
I mean this is actually
literally I
goes against everything
I mean this
this is very
unprofessional for
me to admit
hopefully I don't get sued
by CBS
but like I needed
you aren't drinking
ever clear
you aren't doing
90 proof
no I needed vodka
like inside
literally to warm me
from the inside
like a snow dog
like a snow dog
like a rescue dog coming to get you for like the barrel yeah it
made it made doing that scene like bearable and um and but i i have the gopro and i'm like
shivering in a in a car in the tram going back up to the entrance of raising raging waters but
i'm also kind of drunk so i'm'm just like, it's so cool.
How are you doing, Skylar?
Are you good?
I could do this like six more times.
It's really cool.
I'm so cool.
I don't know.
I'm just rambling.
A lot away from the Nederlander, huh, Skylar?
I mean, that's what I felt really terrible about
is he was the new guy who joined the cast.
It was, I mean, i guess it was three or four
episodes into him being on the show and i was this poor guy out of everyone on the show has to ride
the 50 degree water slide with me and he says i muscled it into existence like this almost didn't
happen and i insisted it happened you could have let it go yeah there are so many times that it
didn't have to have happened.
And the fact that I willed it
into existence
and then like was like,
come on, Skylar,
you're right in this line.
But also for a satisfying story arc,
you guys had built up Raging Waters
as a reference point
for so long within the show.
It was wonderful.
And had there been a world
where the whole park
could have been open
if we'd shot it during the summer,
I mean, I'd wanted to do a Raging Waters opera episode.
There was a lot I wanted to do.
But we worked around, okay, we can open up two.
We can open up, like, really two rides.
What can we do with that?
Oh, that's interesting.
And you knew that by the, like, was it during the writing process?
Or was it, like, a later production thing?
It was a mix.
Yeah, it was a mix.
We started breaking the episode months before we we knew for a fact we could film there.
But but when we started the season, I gave the line producer heads up.
I was like, let's already be in contact with Raging Waters.
I know I want to do something in Raging Waters.
And then they weren't because they were like shutting
down for the summer then they weren't getting back
to us because by the time I told the line producer
that it was like July so they were in the thick
of the summer and then you're dealing with kids
dying of heat stroke dealing with the dead
kids exactly
so I think we had the script written and then
once we knew this is what we could get at Raging Waters
I went on a location scout with the director of the episode, Jack, and with the writer of the episode.
I think it was Alana.
Yeah, it was Alana Pena.
And so we rewrote parts of the episode to fit that location scout.
Oh, gotcha.
Okay.
Is that what inspired the specifically the choice of the, uh, the snack area Sharkies
as the setting of the musical number?
So we knew we wanted to do, I hate everything but you, a musical number in Raging Waters.
And then the fact that like we could have, we could somehow get the rights to have Sharkies
and have that whole area at our disposal was like, we have to use this.
Not affiliated with the Tex-Mex brand.
No, weirdly not.
Separate, separate Sharkies. Not affiliated, but like we-mex brand no weirdly separate separate sharkies not
affiliated but like we get all the the cred for having sharkies there because that was just an
area that um so right behind where sharky was was is the main part of the park all of which was
completely dry and completely shut down oh it's like wave pool kind of stuff is just barren so i
walked past the i'll show you pictures i have pictures like next to the barren wave pool, the barren vortex, the barren like children's
play area.
It's all dry.
Creepy.
It was very borderline creepy, but like eerily beautiful.
Oh yeah.
When getting to, this is like weird nightmare fuel, like that you're in an event, like not
abandoned, but a closed down park.
Most of the park was shut down.
And so we couldn't like, you know, in an ideal world, we would have been in that kind of open area.
And it would have been more of a montage of going of us going on different rides.
It would have maybe you would have set parts of I Hate Everything, but you on different rides.
But because we only had two rides at our disposal, originally we wanted to do the Lazy River, but to fill up a Lazy River.
Yeah.
I mean, so we couldn't do that but luckily the whole sharky's refreshment
area was directly across from all the dry water rides so we all you had to do was just shoot in
that one direction or shoot in the kind of i guess like 180 degrees direction and just not
show the stuff directly behind it just the saddest water park the other way. So holding like background holding and stuff was all in the like
dry part of the water park.
In this barren pit.
That'd be funny.
We should have just said it.
We should have just said
have the background kids
in the dry wave pool.
It was very surreal.
It was very bizarre
and like very surreal.
And I want to say
I think we tried to sneak
some shots of like
the dry rides. But it's hard to fake water.
Yeah, I would imagine.
Sure.
CGI.
The worst looking floppy water coming out.
Were you just so relieved?
Like, okay, we got, we did this chunk of the episode here.
Or did you, do you still feel like you have some sort of a Raging Waters project in you?
Oh, no, I feel pretty good. You feel like you have a some sort of a raging waters project in you oh no i feel pretty good
i feel like that's good uh i think that i got i really i think blew my wad on the thrill because
i grew up in southern california as you know which is a very sunny um but very like almost like bland
chain based place and i was a very kind of big fan of musicals big fan of like
you know when you think about all the classic musicals movie musicals it takes place in like
new york city these very kind of lush east coasty old-fashioned looking places and where every
little bookstore is magical yes exactly it feels likeimsical. So the idea that we got to do numerous musical numbers in these like strip mall chain places is is exactly what like I and what I only wanted the show to be.
So I'm I'm good now on like I'm boring.
Weird.
Yeah.
I mean, I still would love to.
I'm going to do some stuff that's amusement park based because I haven't even begun to really touch, like dip my toe into like my love of amusement parks.
I mean, I thought of doing, when I have like the time, I thought of doing like a mini album to listen to specifically when, just when you're at Disneyland.
Where it's like, here's the song to play in your earbuds as you're like entering this line.
That's cool. here's the song to play in your earbuds as you're like entering this line but i mean i did a i i did a hanukkah album like six years ago called suck at christmas which like to this day still
has not made back its money so i am i am a very big fan of doing like niche ideas that only a
hundred people will enjoy sure um so i don't know if i'll
get around to that but i am so a lot of it requires time and a willingness to uh be had not
get to see any financial return yeah exactly so i have to i would self-release it or whatever um
i would also have to probably avoid the calling it disneyland i don't know i don't know how i
would even yeah wasn't that weird it's it's akin to the like you know timing up uh you know dark side of the moon to play with wizard
of all that's what it really is you can't like say that it's uh yeah there's a scene in almost
famous i think where now it's on the dvd but you like okay so put on you know that one so they
somehow obliquely allude to stairway to heaven since they couldn't get the rights to just like if you play
stairway to heaven at home and then watch the scene and time it up correctly oh is that true
i think yeah there's something like that i forget but like they can't say it legally they have to
imply in other media like yeah i'd have to ask my lawyer what exactly i could do because i couldn't
have any of the audio from any of the amusement parks sure Sure, sure. Yeah. But could I legally sync up a song
to like exactly match like the line to Peter Pan?
You could probably say like,
sync up this one to the pirate one.
You know which I mean.
Yeah.
The ghost place.
But also, are they really Going to sue me
Well because like
YouTube
You can have a
Ride through video
With the songs playing
Yeah
So like Peter Pan
Songs are on the
Peter Pan ride through
So it does feel like
There's a
Kind of a gray area there
I'll say something
Really cool
Really quickly
Because I
A bunch of people
That I grew up with
Also had year long
Passes to Disneyland
There was this guy
Zan I knew Who had a je who he'd been borrowing. He had a, like his cousin's Jeep for
the summer and the school parking lot, like his high school parking lot. It was like the high
school near mine. The high school parking lot was like all inside. And he basically had been on
Indiana Jones so much. He memorized every twist and turn of the Indiana Jones ride to sync up with,
and he had the soundtrack of the ride.
So one day he took us all in his Jeep and he sped through this parking lot.
It was a Saturday and did every exact twist and turn that you would do on the
Indiana Jones ride in this parking lot,
in a real Jeep,
including like really tight turns to the point where I was like,
Oh,
this is how teens die
this is exactly how teens die all the time and it was one of the most like thrilling two and a half
minutes of my life damn wow knowing i mean speeding in a car whatever if it's speeding
to the exact left and right turn ratios, what an exhilarating time.
Wow.
I'm going to put the thing, I'm not going to do that,
but I do kind of want to like listen to it now to see if I know what's what.
Like, oh, now we're on the bridge by listening to the song.
Yeah, like when I get to da, da, da, ba, ba, ba,
like I know that we're on some sort of precipice
and there's a dip there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I guess certain music cues sort of time up to little sensations right that's cool that's yeah that's scary how
old were you 16 okay so yeah that is the most praise time the height of recklessness i was
gonna say it's such a it's the dorkiest recklessness i've ever heard yeah yeah it's so
great because it's both at once if that that had been how I died, I mean.
Well, that says it all.
Jeez.
I mean, yeah.
If you wanted to know the person.
I kind of still think that's how I, that's what happened is that I died and this is all
just like after, after life.
And you're surreal, like having a show and everything is like.
The, the, having the musical show that gets to take place in Southern California that also like talks about mental illness feels very like when i grew up i want to be like an
astronaut ballerina like it's very it's very on the nose where to the point where i still don't
trust it yeah yeah i would imagine um yeah that's how i feel every time i have a glass of wine in
front of rex a ultimate dream fantasy come true that you've died
i this is too good that you're dead but i paid 16 bucks for a glass of wine and i'm drinking it
next to a robot it's the wine that padme had oh i thought you just meant a wine in front of rex here
oh yeah sure i thought you meant just like that's all you want well i have one at home too and i
definitely yeah definitely a lot of one just the one um this
is your place right uh no it's your place yeah yeah yeah so he greeted you but i was here calling
the dog that was your dog that makes sense yeah it's when you leave we'll make you shake hands
with mike rex um fantastic yeah mine's at home so uh you can skip that uh i okay with the with
uh with your raging waters thing i was realizing how you are part of a very proud tradition of things that have filmed at Raging Waters.
I feel like probably like I think Hurricane Harbor, probably closer to Hollywood is more in the TMZ, the 30 mile zone at this point.
But it wasn't open to the to the late 90s.
Yes. So a lot of stuff in the 80s.
I think Raging Waters opened in 83, I believe.
And so it was like the closest Hollywood backlot water park, essentially.
And the list is just that you get the list that you have joined, I find so delightful.
I want to say there's been other various things and probably like music videos and commercials.
But I think Crazy Ex-Girlfriend was the first narrative project to film in Raging Waters since and commercials But I think craziest girlfriend was the First narrative projects to
Film in raging waters since
Norbit I think you're you're
No always sunny did an episode
There before you really yes
Always I did an episode because they
Said they were because when you when you film
At a place you have to send them the script beforehand
So they can make sure you're presenting it in a good light
Always sunny shot at raging waters
Posing for another water park.
But I think when they did it,
they didn't reveal that part of the script
was that like the water was filled with piss and shit
or whatever.
Like it ended up being like a pretty negative episode
about water parks and Raging,
and it kind of took Raging Waters by surprise.
Okay.
But they weren't saying it was Raging Waters like you did.
Or like Norbit did. No, they weren't. Did Norbit, Norbit didn't say it was Raging Waters by surprise. Okay. But they weren't saying it was Raging Waters like you did. Or like Norbit did.
No, they weren't.
Norbit didn't say it was Raging Waters.
Norbit is.
It is Raging Waters.
They're wearing the shirts and everything.
Yeah.
So like you can.
So but we were very careful not to like disparage like Raging Waters.
Like in the episode, Greg hates fun and he hates the sun and he hates general fun.
But we couldn't say water parks are fucking disgusting.
They're filled with piss.
Like kids are peeing in the water and people are dying of heat stroke.
Like we couldn't say that.
Shirky's gives me diarrhea.
Shirky's gives me diarrhea.
Yeah,
yeah,
exactly.
Like we couldn't,
we couldn't,
it was all like,
you know,
implied like Rebecca,
like love the chili cheese dog.
So he was like,
I, I, I'm, I'm not going to partake in that.
He didn't even have it to me.
Okay.
Yeah.
Weird little rules.
Oh, interesting.
Uh, well they did approve the character.
Respusha going down a big tall slide after saying, I must show you how a bitch go down
a slide.
Of course that famous scene where she where she causes a
wave to drown a bunch of children yeah
yeah the try I think there were trailers
that were only that scene yeah that was the
all I know about Norbit actually yeah yeah
I gotta I watched I gotta
I was like laughing and clapping watching
it I gotta say I don't
maybe I'm underrating that well that's your reaction
every time you watch Norbit yeah
the hundreds of viewings.
Okay, elsewhere on this list,
Justin Bieber's Beauty and the Beat music video
filmed there,
which including an in Raging Waters appearance
by the now retired Nicki Minaj.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
She fit it in before her sure to last retirement.
You can have a family and still rap.
That's also like a
PR stunt, right?
That's like fun to say you retired and you come back.
It's like when Barbra Streisand said it was her last
concert. It's like the
Sony Disney Spider-Man stuff.
It's all a play. It's all a game.
I don't know if it's that.
They're just working it for more money. This will be
resolved by the end of the year Nick Nicki Minaj
will be in the
Spider-Man he's being
as they're trading her
in Bill and Ted's
excellent adventure
filmed there it's
Waterloo in that
we're not playing oh
yeah Napoleon and he
ends up at Waterloo
Baywatch my recent
obsession a really
great episode of
Raging Waters where
there's there's a
water slide sabotage
going on somebody's going around loosening bolts oh yeah where there's there's a water slide sabotage going on
somebody's going around loosening bolts oh yeah and they think it's a creepy guy who's been walking
around who's like yelling at all the lifeguards about uh his son's recent suicide at raging
waters and so they kind of unfairly blame him i don't want to give away the uh ending obviously
of course also they would need to hire the baywatch lifeguards
who work on the coast to like temporarily be at raging waters it's one of those that's a like
porn forced plot scenario like why yeah why are they sorry you're binging baywatch i've been real
deep into baywatch it's everything i can do to not talk about it on every episode but baywatch
has been recently remastered and it's on Amazon and Hulu and it looks legitimately great because it
was 35 millimeter film so there's shots where I'm like this is a great looking it's just a good
restoration I feel like I'm appreciating appreciating it in a Tarantino kind of way
it looks really great and then it's the dumbest shit you've ever seen. And they couldn't, my favorite thing about it,
they couldn't get the rights to all of the music
that it originally aired with.
So it's all new soundalike music made this year.
So it's all this bizarre, like one note off.
That's like, I've looked ones up, like, okay,
so that was Spice Up Your Life,
but now it's some generic song like hey hey let's go
that's like the state dvds oh do they have a lot of like a lot of like nirvana sound of light i
guess everything on mtv back in the day yeah yeah wait so like you they how can you not have the
rights to that music anyway i'm confused i don't know like they didn't get a license they paid for
like 20 years into the future yeah
yeah there's a lot of i think tv shows i think daria had that problem too when they were reissuing
that because i think like mt mtv had something anything right they had some general licensing
agreement with them i don't know what baywatch's problem was but i don't know but i love the so
and honestly i've gone back and watched clips with the real music. Like there's a Good Vibrations one.
Oh, yeah.
That's the best I just found.
I found out the original episode had Good Vibrations.
And in the new, the one that's on Amazon now, it's a made up Beach Boys-esque song with the lyric,
She reminds me of ice cream.
It is around every corner.
Wow.
Delights like that.
She reminds me of ice cream.
Vastly better than good vibrations
so these baywatch the baywatch special editions as i'm gonna call them yeah those are the better
remastered i think is they they call it that in the ads those are the superior cuts you would say
i think so i think they ended up finding new humor i think it sounds like you do a podcast
based just all about baywatch i think we're all nearing the point of like we're doing our own spinoff podcast
where we're just each other's guests and I
would very happily do. I came up with my
Baywatch remastered the podcast. Yeah.
We should do it. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.
Why not? Yeah. Let us confirm if you're interested
audience, but it doesn't matter because
we're doing it anyway.
Highly recommended. But then my favorite
thing that's filmed at Raging Waters and that I
have such strong memories of
Wild and Crazy Kids oh right
Nickelodeon
That was my dream just to be
On it yeah I think they filmed at a
Park near my house one
Time and it and
I saw it after the fact and I
Was I was livid I was
Livid that they were that you weren't
How they filmed at Polylogue park and i didn't
know about this oh man oh bummer that is yeah heartbreaking oh when they go on the roller
coasters and they have to you try to eat a burger and fries like while on a roller coaster
they did magic mountain stuff i think yeah yeah okay they did a thing exactly like that that was
one of the competitions in raging waters it was parents versus kids and
they had to do things like unpeel bananas and keep ice cream cones from melting and dropping
into the water while on water slides and it's a kids versus adults thing so there's this great
stuff where it is phrased probably not the best like donnie jeff coach or one of those
like so what do you think do you think you can beat your son
And then later on similarly
A dad answering a question alright well
The pressure's on but we're gonna beat
Those kids
So that's a delight
Look up those episodes on Daily Motion
Where they're available in very poor
VHS quality
Wild west of internet video streaming.
Thank God for Dailymotion.
I really miss that.
I mean, because I'm sure like you guys,
I grew up in the heyday of Nickelodeon, we're gross,
we're going to play with slime and gack.
And I've gone to a couple general meetings at Nickelodeon years ago
where I was like, hey, what happened to kids being gross?
What happened to loving how gross what happened to like loving
how they all have brands now they all have brands and something like hydro flasks yeah like it's all
but it's all like very clean and neat and aspirational I'm like what happened to kids
just like fucking being like booger town yeah yeah sure absolutely and there's also there was
a grotesque aspect To Nickelodeon too
With shows
Like Wienerville
Is just so bizarre
Yeah
Remember that show
Abrasive
And in your face
That's like a bad
Maybe a bad example
But yeah
No Ren and Stimpy
Is fucking weird and gross
Weird and gross
Don't whiz on the electric fence
This is a
Like Ren unzips
Is that from Ren and Stimpy
Yeah
Oh my god
I literally just realized
that because a guy in
high school would play
that on guitar and i
thought he made it up
oh man oh he was
getting like cred for
being like a random
comedy guy
i never knew don't
whiz on the electric
fence
that's such a dirty
song
yeah
okay well because my
my friend had said
because if you whiz on
the electric fence
bolts of electricity
will go up your penis and you'll die.
Yeah, I imagine that's not on Ren's stupid.
That's not the show.
The song was just, don't whiz on the electric fence.
But Ren like unzips, he suddenly has a fly in his skin.
And he like unzips himself.
Yeah, it's really unnerving.
To pee on something Stimpy likes. stimpy likes like i'm gonna as revenge
it's so crazy one of the first body horror things i ever saw was that episode where they're in jail
with that guy who's like losing his mind and his ear is just like just close up on his ear which
slides off of his head and i remember being like a child being like oh my god What the hell like it was so
Like scarring I liked it but it was
Scarring you know what I remember is I remember an episode
Where Stimpy got really skinny and he needed
To gain weight and so they took liposuction
Fat and they made it into milkshakes for him
And he had to drink it
Like I remember even as like
A kid being like this is too much
This is gratuitous sure yeah oddly they were
Not now I feel like everything I every's show has to be vetted by like 30 groups of psychologists well that one
should have been vetted probably after what came out about the co-creator that one should have
been vetted yeah yeah yeah the one creator it's like why did the one creator leave the show so
early in the run 20 years later oh okay we have all right why did he oh it's a
let's just say it's a grooming situation oh no yeah it's real bad yeah yeah but i know when
nobody's the only creator you know the way creators of shows just leave no there was another guy
i thought there was only there's another guy who did a lot of like little girl children's tv i want
to say it was like lizzie mcgu Oh, well, that's a whole other thing.
The creator of all those kids shows.
Or the Nickelodeon shows, not the Disney shows.
So there was another rumor that like that creepy guy got like, this is a rumor.
I'm remembering this from hearing it like 10 years ago That like he got like Jamie Lynn Spears
Pregnant oh yeah yeah yeah
You know who you're talking about
Who also just like Nickelodeon says
Goodbye after a great career to thanks
For the memories and you're like what
Just suddenly that's not suspicious
At all yep just see you later
You know people just leave lucrative
Under the rug please do not google
The phrase open secret.
Please do not.
Yeah.
So, yeah, you guys can look into that if you know.
If I.
Listener wise.
Yeah, good.
Let me.
I was going to link back to body horror with the, you know.
Now, I don't want to.
I don't want to go around, you know, saying negative things about Raging Waters and Ivan Bin.
And, you know, they were great to you and your show.
There's Yelp reviews that are not thrilled with things that have happened there.
One, I just really liked this.
This review I liked, this assertion.
You never know with these Yelp people.
They're exaggerating.
But, I don't know.
There was feces and vomit and sanitary napkins on the floors of the bathroom which also had no tp or paper towels
trash was overflowing onto the floors and there was an enormous amount of bees
on top of it bees too so that's great but then also there is this other review. And I thought of this with Body Horror because it's a review by his Yelp name is Kenny G.
I can't imagine he is the smooth sex man, but could be.
But it is this review is such a novel.
I mean, I couldn't possibly read the whole thing.
It takes up like you got to keep scrolling and scrolling.
It's, you know, half of that page.
And it's it is so bonkers.
There's like scenes between characters in his review.
There's hashtags like a hashtag doesn't link to anything in the middle of a Yelp review.
That's not how it works.
But there's also the assertion that he says he he has a lot of complaints, but then says like,
I don't really like to go in the water at these places
because you might, you know,
come out of the water with 14 toes and two penises.
What?
That's a pretty, that's a pretty major assertion.
I'm not sure he's correct.
But the main, oh sorry,
the main thing about this review is it has a motif.
And he starts the motif at the beginning by
saying don't go chasing waterfalls please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to
i know that you're gonna have it all another novel you're moving too fast uh-huh i'm starting to
think that tlc might have been light years ahead of their time and then the entire review keeps
quoting tlc it's a motif throughout it and he finds crazy ways just like when you come out
of the water you might look gross you're not going to be too you're going to look very unpretty uh
he works the name fan mail in the name of their album right he says uh you know try anesthetizing
yourself from an unexplainable rash that no scrub can get rid of i had to applaud that one i already
managed to fit in no scrubs this is a college entrance
essay that the teacher is like okay uh nice first effort we're not gonna send this one in
but let's go back to the original idea is there something we can salvage he does this person
needs like a creative outlet and yelp is the place for it i mean i applaud it it is one of
the most creative and i don't know why tlc needed be a part of it, but I haven't seen a bunch of band references jammed into Yelp review before.
This was the San Dimas Raging Waters, not the San Jose or Sacramento location?
No, yes, specifically San Dimas. That's pretty much what we've been covering. We should say there are two others. And they sold this one. There's a Raging Waters in Wildwood, New Jersey, unaffiliated,
has the same name, owned by the Morey's company.
Morey's Pier runs most of the entertainment in Wildwood, New Jersey at this point.
The parent company, Palace Entertainment, owns Kennywood, Dutch Wonderland,
and the new Cartoon Network Hotel across from Dutch Wonderland, and the new Cartoon Network Hotel across from Dutch
Wonderland, all in Pennsylvania, and the Noah's Ark Water Park in the Wisconsin Dells.
Now, that's my-
Which Mike's given thumbs down.
Oh, that was your favorite.
Have you been?
Yeah, a couple times.
Is it good?
How religious is it?
It's not- I haven't been in like over a wasn't, I didn't notice it being very religious.
It was like a fun cartoon version of the religious story,
but I don't,
I would like to,
when we go,
we should go.
I think you guys haven't done like a,
a gotten a van and done a road trip to all the major like amusement.
Yeah.
That'll probably,
cause we want to go to Dolly.
We got to go to Dollywood and we got to do a lot of this.
So yeah,
there's something.
Nick Mundy,
who scolded us
into doing this podcast
in the beginning,
also said,
why have you got into a van
and gone to all the places?
Have you joined
the rollercoaster enthusiast
association?
Not yet.
We haven't done that either.
I've looked into,
I've looked into doing that,
but then you just need
to take a lot of your time
out of the year to travel and go on different roller coasters.
You can make a roller coaster.
Wait, is it like a quota you have to fill?
Is it a commitment of some kind?
What?
Is there a commitment of some kind?
Yeah.
I think there's dues.
Right.
And then they have special events.
You just have to, I mean, in order to take advantage of it, you have to be willing to travel to go on different roller coasters because there are events at different amusement parks.
Right.
You should have on David Hall, who was on my show, was a performer at King's Island.
Oh, boy.
And he did all the shows there, but also rode all the rides and is a continuing, he continues
to be a huge roller coaster enthusiast.
Wow.
Sure.
Yeah.
That sounds great.
In the organization?
He's in the club.
He's not.
No, no, no.
Just casually.
Oh, sorry.
I was eating crackers and yep got down my bra
it happens hey everything's fine i'll just find random crumbs sure um later we were talking about
i don't want to be so negative either but we were talking about the sacramento location i don't know
do we find you found this i'm sure i'm assuming i don't know where you're going with this i'm very
excited i was gonna read the kcra uhCRA NBC Channel 3 headline on their website
40 person brawl at Raging Waters
Started over beach towel
Man remains hospitalized
After being attacked
This is August 26th, 2019
Yeah, I actually saw this headline
I think what we're learning is
Water parks would be great if it weren't for the people attending them all you need is all you need is like a water park and just if
it was to yourself it would be perfect which you sort of got to have and some vodka and it was
great yes besides almost dying of hypothermia yeah but you know the memories the memories were so
special what's the disorientation increased by what appears to be
raging waters is one of their big innovations is multiple uh water slides in the darkness
yeah which they're very obsessed with that there's dark hole there's neptune's revenge
there's the vortex um you know there's there's just only so much you can do
with a water slide and especially i, I can't imagine that Raging Waters has,
I don't think they have the budget of like,
certainly not of like a Disney.
Absolutely.
But I don't even think of like a Six Flags Hurricane Harbor.
And so like, there's just not, your resources are limited.
And the one thing you can do is make a water slide
that is nearly in the dark.
That is the like cheapest theme for sure
yeah and it is just it is very disorienting dark holes very disorienting and yet they did manage
to get some major theming and even some characters into the genre of dark water slide and i know you
know about this with the slide dr von dark's tunnel of you know what that actually i think i'm that was the one that was open for us it wasn't neptune's revenge it was dr von dark's tunnel of you know what that actually i think i'm that was the one
that was open for us it wasn't neptune's revenge it was dr von dark's tunnel oh okay okay so
this is referenced in a song in the show elsewhere yes um i am this seems like for
raging water because i'm looking at the slides they're all whatever one is called high extreme
that's not anything there's not a lot lot of red meat in terms of what the...
And we're about themes or a theme park.
We like characters exclusive to the parks.
We talk about that all the time.
No, Dr. Von Dark is a different beast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm pretty impressed by it.
And while it seems to me like...
Okay, Dr. Von Dark's Tunnel of Terror is not...
It's at multiple water parks and
they aren't even all raging waters uh and i i am actually forgetting offhand the name one of the
other places where i think water country which is in like new hampshire i believe uh so i don't
think the i don't think you and maybe you could tell me if there's any evidence of the character
is there any physical representation of dr let me get my phone i have i have some pictures of
our location scout okay yes please do okay great so get my phone I have some pictures of our location scout
Okay, yes, please do, okay, great, great
So I have pictures from our location scout
And as you'll see, I'll pass this around
There is a character named Dr. Von Dark
And it says, there's a sign that says
School of Darkology
It's not about turning off the lights
It's about turning on the darkness
And here's a picture
Oh man, he's got a Joker phrase
My friend Jack in front of that
sign if you zoom in you can see what dr von dark looks like the motto of the school of darkology
which by the way the school of dark darkology is bright yellow with purple trim it looks like a
barbie dream house yeah and yet it is the school of darkology hell yeah that's fantastic and there's
a depiction of dr von dark i love this is the only i That's fantastic. And there's a depiction of Dr. Von Dark.
I love this.
Is this the only, I mean, I think there's characters now in Disney water parks, but
this might be the only non-brand water park with a character.
Which I love.
And I think, well, I think because the problem is they had Dark Hole and they're like, fuck,
we have another ride where we're dark in it.
We got to differentiate this.
Okay, there's going gonna be a whole character there's gonna be uh we gotta make it a premise to differentiate it from dark
hole yeah i have pictures of the empty school if you just scroll through this you can see pictures
of the of the empty wave pool oh boy oh wonderful hey you're good oh man sorry barren water park i
know everyone loves if you like scroll through you can see imagine the saddest water part imagine the words high extreme with no one around
not nearly as brought to life as it is in that bieber video at night even
uh a lot more active so that phrase that you just said his motto uh very delightfully i this
morning discovered
this is from the YouTube channel of
I already can't remember the name of the place
so Water Country
I believe and
this is a little ad where they're announcing
new water slides for 2012
and there is a
host who's probably a real employee
of the park and then and there's a bunch of
construction workers they're working on the next slide but then something unpredictable happens
with that said we're proud to announce that we're adding a new attract hey who turned out the lights
there he is he's talking about darks
it's about turning on the darkness and so he's german yeah
dr von dark's tunnel of terror just one ride and you'll be begging your mommy for a nightlight
yeah there is a living actor playing dr von dark uh so fantastic and then here's another quick hit
from another it's all voiceover
In the thing
It looks like it's voiceover
He's not actually
Moving his mouth
That he's just like
Looking at you
He might be a pantomime actor
Yeah
I think he
Well he might be
Here's another
That's how they save money
Is you hire a voiceover actor
Sure
One day
And then you just get
Like a back
You just get like
Guy being paid
Extra rates another day
Oh yeah yeah
Well Baywatch
My beloved Baywatch
Is full of
that a lot of hey watch out you're running too fast or somebody they didn't pay uh so here's
another doctor and then it's kind of the same from there okay that was a close-up so they did
yes he may have earned like he's two hundred dollar yeah yeah exactly uh so this
fucking rules but i do it does seem to me first of all i think we can all agree it fucking rules
and then but it does seem to me like what is actually going on at the school of darkology
because you see him flip a switch and then it gets dark yeah so his evil technology seems to be
turning off a light right but he calls it turning on the dark.
Turning light.
Which is different.
Spider-Man.
Turning off the dark.
Whoa.
Wow.
It's unclear also whether or not you're a test subject or a student or Dr. Von Dark's wife or Dr. Von Dark himself.
When you're writing it, what are you?
When you're writing it, it's not clear what the premise is.
It's just you're generally in the school of darkology.
They should hand you a little diploma when you get out.
Yeah, absolutely.
A waterproof one, like a laminated.
I like your premise that you are him and that you're paying for your sins against the light.
Oh, yeah.
The school of darkology has gone haywire. I like the idea that you're like you're paying for your sins against the light oh yeah the school of darkology has gone haywire i like the idea that you're his wife yeah yeah i just like mrs von
dark mrs von dark there's just occasional vo where it's just like come our our son's graduations
today can you make it i have too many dark experiments We forgot my birthday Sometimes it feels like you love dark more than you love me
Me, me, me
I've lost all my friends to the darkness
Like how Knott's is expanding the whole Calico mythology
Maybe it's time for Raging Waters to expand
Wait, Knott's is expanding the Calico, the ghost world?
Yeah, the ghost town and like all the rides kind of connect now.
Apparently there's...
Calico Rapids connects to the mine train, connects to the...
And there's mazes now, the haunted mazes.
A couple of them are all connected to the story as well this year.
So I think maybe it's time to expand Dr. Von Dark's presence in Raging Waters.
And Dr. Von DeWalt, for Halloween, if they kept it open,
Dr. Von Dark could completely take over Raging Waters. I mean, it wouldWalt for Halloween, if they kept it open, Dr. Von Dark could completely
take over Raging Waters.
I mean, it'd be crazy.
It's all his experiments.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
And you could get actually hurt
because it's night and you slip and fall.
Well, they'll run a few slides
without the water.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Danger.
I would like them to incorporate,
because I looked up a map of San Dimas, because I didn't really know it.
This park is next to the Puddingstone Reservoir.
It's beautiful.
Oh, this park is actually in the middle of like a Griffith Park-like area of San Dimas.
It's gorgeous.
Oh, wow.
But no actual pudding, I'm assuming.
Oh, no, that's what you were thinking.
I got excited by that name.
It did look nice from the satellite photos you know
after we location scouted because it is right next to this reservoir i had a dream that i was
on a water slide and that it like shot off you know and then you were 100 feet in the air and
you landed in a reservoir and you had to like swim and then you got caught onto like another track
while you were like still underwater
like i had a really cool ride idea dream wow yeah that sounds great wow um the kind of concoction
only von dark could be crafty and von darky and yeah it's very von darky interview um did you
have like a favorite one favorite slide of all these uh high extreme i remember getting the courage to go on and it is
very fun because you're very high up and it is a super extreme um i and i never i never i've never
i never went on like the tall slide the thing that where it's like it's just super
you know it's like i don't know a 75 foot like straight down drop i've never done that
and then i never did the wedge there was this thing at raging waters i don't know if it's still
there but it's like basically you you it's you're almost like it's like you're on a skateboarding
ramp where you just your body uh your body goes whoo whoo whoo until you literally there's like
a funnel and you go down the funnel into like a pool i never did that okay okay yeah i've never
done one of those like you know a little never did that okay okay yeah i've never done
one of those like a little curlicue whatever i feel like i haven't done a lot of i feel like
i've recently conquered haunts i'm ready to conquer drop slide type things and like more
extreme slides what you're talking about because as a child i was very scared of everything my mom
also we've talked about many times my mom wouldn't let me go to certain water parks just that for a
birthday she was afraid I would die.
Which is fair.
I mean, that's the scary thing about water parks is that you have way more control over your own experience at a water park than you would on a given ride.
Right.
In order to go on those high slides, you really do have to sit with your hands across your chest or behind your head.
You can't flail around.
It actually is really dangerous if if you flail around like you you know if someone pisses in the water i mean
that's why they have chlorine i guess but like you really can ruin a slide in a way that you
you can't i trust rides i don't trust myself nearly as much as i trust the people who make
the rides so i think that's why like i don't know if I trust my body to know what to do on like a high slide,
but I completely trust the roller coaster on like a big drop.
Right. Yes. That makes sense. Yeah.
Cause you feel like it really does feel like when you're on some of the
slides that you could just slip out. Like it does. Like you don't,
I don't feel safe as much, you know, it does. I mean,
obviously there's some sort of physics, but like,
well the type of slides
Where you're in a giant inner tube
And you go right up
Against the edge
And you come down
Doesn't that feel like
One of these times
That thing's just gonna fly
And go sailing
Out of the gates
Of the theme park
Yeah it feels very imprecise
In a way that
That is a lot
That is a lot scarier to me
Yeah
But they know
What they're doing
Eh theoretically
Sure I think there are Stories I've heard Of people Yeah. But they know what they're doing. Theoretically. Sure.
Those 14-year-olds.
There are stories I've heard of people falling off those big slides because they're doing
something stupid.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I feel like I'd be the one who didn't cross my arms like, no, not like that.
What do you mean?
I don't even know how I did it wrong.
Yeah, exactly.
You crossed them over your stomach and not over here.
Yeah, somehow.
And that leads to instant decapitation.
Yeah.
It's very vulnerable to be on a water slide, because it's
just you. Your ride suddenly becomes,
your body becomes your ride car.
Yeah. And you also feel like
the ridges of the slide sometimes. Yes.
You feel like the bumps on the slide. Oh, the little
like connector piece? Yeah, yeah. You feel the
seam. Yeah, absolutely. You're like,
that shouldn't be going over my back. Yeah.
Do you guys like big, big roller coasters?
Well, that's a thing
i haven't done a lot of the six flags coasters but again that's another thing i'm working on
yeah but i just i just went it's i mean those are they're they're i've been to six flat sorry
you were answering a question i completely interrupted oh no i'm just gonna say like i
my i don't like the dangling legs that's what i don't like oh i feel vulnerable
with my legs dangling sure but everything else i feel okay about but like there's ones that are
really crazy there's like green lantern one that apparently hurts that is shut down oh yeah that's
right you want to shut down because that that's been a ride that they've been trying to do with
six flags they call it a 4d coaster that's been a ride they've been trying to do for a while but it um they're they're shutting it down because it fucks people up
somehow you said the helmet like where you're watching a simulator movie no that's no that's
something else you're almost like on the side of like a if like it's like you're on the side of
the coaster and then also you drop and then like spinning and flip like i don't know how to
describe it yeah yeah people it hurts yeah it's a weird i mean the because i've been going to six flags since i was
i've been going on upside down roller coasters since i was like 13 and there is something to
the taller you get and the older you get it it just stresses your body out more and i can handle
roller coasters i love roller coasters but i wasags. And like, I mean, you the the thing you need before big roller coasters is you actually need food in your stomach.
Yeah, it's a misconception to do an empty stomach.
You actually you need like a hearty meal and you need like a healthy meal.
And so you have to prep really well for it.
And then there are just some coasters there, man, that like it is borderline unpleasant.
Some of them are aging very poorly.
Like I'll do pretty much anything.
I don't like the standing up ones because they never really for five foot one man.
It's not pleasant to have that like bicycle seat like like I'm like half standing, half sitting.
It's not good uh and also like some shoulder restraints if it because i am so sure i
will just my head will bonk around in between them and that's really bad on the older ones but the
newer ones tend to be pretty smooth uh i'll tell you what really fucked me up last time that i've
been on a couple years ago was fine is x2 is not aging well oh no and because it was so incredibly bumpy that i felt like oh i actually
need to hold my head steady on this otherwise i'm gonna seriously fuck up my body so x2 is the one
where you're um you're you're like to the side of the roller coaster you're basically it's double
upside down you're as you're on the ride you're on an axis that turns you and the first
time i went on it this is like five years ago i was like this is the greatest ride i've ever been
on because it was very smooth because when you have the hat on a hatness of you're going upside
down while you're going upside down you don't also need bumpiness i mean you never really need
bumpiness on a steel roller coaster i don't know that's never that's never relevant to the situation
but x2's gotten like really bumpy now. And it really fucked with my head.
But I'll tell you what I loved that I didn't think I would love.
Their new ride, Crazannity, which is the worst name.
It's, I forget what they call it.
But basically, it's one of those like vomit inducing rides you'd think.
But like you're on basically a giant wheel that spins while you're doing like the dragon boat up and down thing.
It's one of the most like intense rides i've ever been on but like shockingly enjoyable wow i've seen there's
another version of that in the warner brothers dubai park i think it's a big like disc kind of
thing yes yes that sounds fun honestly that sounds like a thing i would have gone on as a kid
so i'll try that when i go i'm going soon you're building up bravery uh the the twisted colossus is amazing
okay that's the best really i like it aesthetically like it looks cool no i haven't been it's
fantastic because what they did was um somehow they kept so colossus was this classic wooden
roller coaster at six flags um we really should have just been talking about six flags this whole
time but they but they they they put a steel track like on top of on top of like the wooden structure
and they kept the cars very similar so there's no shoulder restraint and somehow
the the upside down is so subtle you don't like it doesn't register you're going up that you're
going upside down in this one like it's not a zero gravity turn they call it a there's a term
that they use for the like specific
like upside down loop on twisted colossus that like you can't believe you're upside down like
it feels it's so cool there's so many roller coasters we're not we're we all like roller
coasters but like there's a certain subsect of people who really like roller coasters and i was
up there for a media thing and i was like oh there's roller coaster people here today like we've been at theme park events this
is like a mix of theme park people and roller coaster people and yeah i am one of those i'm i
am i've always been i'm a huge roller coaster i'm a both i'm a both but like i love i yeah i love
those but roller coaster people it's it people, there's a certain hardiness.
I mean, especially the older you get,
it's a certain type of person
who can still ride these coasters
when they're in their 60s.
Right, sure.
Even in their early 70s.
It's like it's athleticism a little bit.
Yeah, you're putting your body through trauma.
Yeah.
And as a kid, like,
I was so scared of going upside down.
For some reason, i would just do the
wooden ones which were so bumpy and so rickety probably worse in the long run but like that i
can always pretty much do but like revolution it's like this is the very first inverted like
major theme park roller coaster i was like yeah i can tell that it's 40 years old. I can feel it in my brain.
Yeah, yeah.
And yet, as scary as a lot of these rides are, just to bring it back to Raging Waters,
Raging Waters was still bold enough to, and probably correct to make this assertion,
that they are the only theme park with rides guaranteed to make you wet your pants.
Official ad that I'm holding up.
That's great.
That's something they actually used.
Someone got a watch at the company Christmas party for that one.
Yeah, it's really good.
I got it.
Is that 90s?
Is that the 90s?
I think it was when it opened.
I think this was 83.
See, the 80s and the 90s, everything was gross.
Yeah.
We were fine being gross.
Yeah, yeah.
I wonder what happened.
I'm going to bring gross back yeah sure do
it yeah i'm gonna create a show called bloom's booger fart shit party yeah that kid's show though
yeah did you say shit party okay booger fart poop party great hey great hey great even better i was
offended for a second but now i'm good and it just, it's a competition to see how gross kids can,
who to find the grossest kid in America.
America's grossest kid.
Oh, never mind.
I take this entire premise back.
Wait a minute.
You're imagining a bunch of gross children.
On that note, yeah.
Well, yeah.
Hey, on that note, Rachel Bloom, you survived podcast The Ride.
Thank you so much for being here.
Oh, my God.
Did you take my picture at some point in it and I didn't notice?
I've thought how what we should do is something like we do if we had a little photo booth
set up that was like the end of ride thing.
We need to rig something up.
Yeah, we really should do that.
It's hard to put that together.
Future innovation.
Thanks for giving it to us.
But hey, let's exit through the gift shop.
Anything you would like to plug?
Oh, yeah.
I'm on a casual tour.
Check my website for details.
Casual tour?
Just a casual tour.
Sounds chill.
It's a very chill tour.
I'm doing domestic away dates every month and a half.
And then I have a monthly show at Largo in LA,
which will be when this podcast release is coming up in three days. domestic away dates every month and a half. And then I have a monthly show at Largo in LA, which is,
which will be when this podcast releases coming up in three days.
And hopefully I'll have a better idea of what I'm doing at it than I do
now,
which is,
I have no idea what I'm doing.
Well,
hopefully that's to the excitement.
That's to the thrill.
Text us.
If you don't,
if you say,
if you're like,
edit out the,
I'm going to,
I'm going to bail.
I'm going to leave the night.
I'll just have you guys come.
I mean,
there's a,
it's anything I want to do at Largo. So I could always just have other people come and perform. And I just watch. bail. I'm going to leave the night out. Or I'll just have you guys come. I mean, it's anything I want to do at Largo,
so I can always just have other people come and perform,
and I just watch.
That's true.
Well, as you've learned, we can do two hours,
as long as it's about water slides.
If you need a lot of time, Phil.
What a bait and switch, if that was what it was.
People are like, I'm going to come and see some musical comedy,
and it's like, well, do you want to know the ride systems
that we like the best?
Dr. Von Tark.
Kuka Arms.
Sally Corporation.
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In Orlando, we're coming to the SAC Comedy Lab on October 24th.
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