Podcast: The Ride - Remy's Ratatouille Adventure with Taran Killam

Episode Date: September 29, 2023

Taran Killam (SNL, Single Parents) joins us to discuss the Ratatouille attraction located at Epcot and Walt Disney Studios park in Paris. Plus his experiences at the opening of Galaxy's Edge and Galactic Starcruiser! Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue Episode up at Club 3: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Livestream tickets available for the October 20th live shows! https://www.dynastytypewriter.com/events-calendar Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever! Dog! on, as the French would say, a totally zany adventure through his favorite parts of the theme park world, including Remy's Ratatouille adventure on Podcast The Ride, the show that provides Anton Ego-esque sensory flashbacks to old bullshit you were better off forgetting. I'm Scott Gairdner, joined by Jason Sheridan. Hi. Hi. Yeah. Oh, okay. I took a sec. It was right there.

I know who Anton Ego is now, but I was like, I hope he goes to Mike first. Okay. Oh, sorry. Well, look at that. I made the choice, which is usually the order. Let's rectify that, Mike. It was bad. I was changing the levels a little bit. I was fixing some of the technical aspects, so I wasn't able to respond.

I also was hoping you went to jason first well so you did thank goodness no ratatouille experts uh among us or uh or uh people at least remembering the vague i mean i was excited of like oh yeah peter o'toole right sure yes okay you know that part peter o'toole patten os. It is a very good voice cast, some of whom factor into this attraction that we're going to talk about, which we're so excited to do, and especially given the guest who we have.

We've heard for a long time that he is the rare combo of comedy, luminary, and Parks guy. The best combo there could be, and we're here to confirm that and to celebrate it. From Saturday Night Live, from Single Parents, from Hamilton on Broadway, it's Taron Killam. Hi, guys. Hey. Buckle up.

Oh, boy. Permanente centavos, por favor. Oh, baby. We're used to buckling, at least. Other people might not be so comfortable. Yeah, yeah. Yes, so happy. As you're representing with powerline shirts you know

i'm happy to be here seeing you eye to eye wow oh wow it's nice to hear that nice to be told that eye to eye yes beautiful message in high school i i used eye to eye as an audition song for my for my high school production season. And did it get you the... I did. Not the musical. No. Really? No, I ended up in Mousetrap.

Okay. Jeez. So let them... Well, at least let them calibrate. Do not let him sing. Uh-huh. I think I want to murder this guy. Was it acapella eye-to-eye or was it a little...

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha. I'm trying to think how that... I guess, I think that would play though. That's a strong melody. Yeah. Yeah. You need a lot of, there's a lot of production. I find myself a notion.

Yeah. One, I know that you'll understand. Yeah, that'd be cool. You set my world in motion. By reaching out for each other's hands. Maybe we'll discover what we should have known all along. I just want to do the whole thing now. Would anyone be mad?

We'll just do the entire thing. Just do the show. I know who's going to do the middle, the Rosie Gaines. After today! Wow. I mean, that's the musical. If you're going to go musical,

that's the more theater-y one. For sure. Well, at least with Mousetrap, you were able to tell your fellow high schoolers, you know, that's the more theatery one for sure um well at least with my mousetrap you're able to tell your fellow high schoolers you know that's the longest running play uh on the west end exactly right maybe period you know it is it is to this day i took my now 14 year old daughter eight year old when we were there in london that was like one of the only things that i said we have to do it and it was one of the best best decisions of my life because no audience is more earnest and invested in an agatha christie mystery than an eight-year-old

child sure because we saw like a matinee and we saw you know like they're probably at like 70 capacity and it's been there for forever so everybody's yeah and she it it was so real like i remember you know the first act ends with like the whistling of three blind mice and the old frumpy woman who's insulted everybody dying and she and like lights go down her body's on stage and like my daughter's just like squeezing my arm harder and harder and the curtain comes down for intermission she looks at me she goes this is pretty scary dad you know which was wonderful because the performance was like well i say i've never been to a bed and breakfast with less service you know very arch very worried that's gonna lose a

child that that level of uh british theatricality won't work but it seems like it did wait this is i mean i've got a thousand theme park questions, but this reminded me of this one. If you were a theater kid growing up and also a fan of this stuff, did you, and I know you acted as a kid, did you ever consider theme park performance, theme park musicals or whatever? Did you ever pursue that? I didn't i had friends in college who did do that and and my my best friend hunter was in the very first uh california adventure parade like like the soren he he had a hang glider like a like a like a base jump parachute hang glider that he would dance to down the center of california adventure he represented soren in a in float form yes he was

a float he lasted i think like two months because of the commute just you know like we're yeah yeah la to anaheim is tricky but yeah i definitely like i was more hoping for like because because as i was in high school like beauty and the Beast, the musical, was a big deal and fairly legit. I'd hoped in my early 20s that they would do a Hercules musical then and maybe do a young Hercules. That would have been the ideal for me. Yeah, yeah. Wait, there is that now. They do that now, right?

They do it now. Now there's a really, really great production that I think they did at Paper Mill. Okay. Yeah. Do you have a dream Disney park? Oh, yeah. Good question. In the theatrical realm?

Is it still, is it Hercules somewhere? I've so aged out of that. You could be the Paul Schaeffer. Oh, isn't this wacky? Isn't that just? Wow, yeah, yeah. I had, who designed the flower? isn't that just wow yeah i had uh who did who designed the flower isn't that just kooky say babe and cat hey babe oh it's just a wacky it's like oh my god i'm captured

abala's captured i'm captured this is the worst wow geez all right just slap a bald cap on you and you're set yeah i'll roll with that i feel like i feel like a good role like a good dramatic role is like um who is the archbishop or whatever from hunchback oh my god yeah like that burn like she'll burn will burn and evil yeah like pervy but he's religious yeah yeah that's that's that feels meaty like fuck yeah that'd be great if you're doing that for a few months or something you stay in that headspace yeah yeah yeah that's that's that feels meaty like fuck yeah that'd be great if you're doing that for a few months or something you stay in that headspace yeah yeah he's like don't take that hair weirdly yeah don't get don't give that role to jared leto because he's gonna go too hard yeah yeah protect the women

um okay question i do have right off right off the bat though um given the day that this is coming out uh which is i we're right at the end of september i believe i think that this episode is being released in the dead center of the final voyage of the halcyon oh yeah galactic star cruiser the last weekend is happening right as people are hearing this yes and you are among probably the few well the few people in general it's like a it's a select club at this point of people yes did galactic star cruiser we chatted about this scott and and i listened uh um with open ears but but also with with um with a differing opinion of the the from No Hard Feelings. Oh, yeah, Sandra Barthelman.

Yes, had the best time ever. The most positive episode of this show in history. Number one. And maybe ever. We'll never do that again. Infectious. It was infectious because it definitely rewrote some of my experience where I was like, yeah, that was all right, actually. I mean, not to say that my experience was all negative yeah but now i'm so

glad i went like i feel like i have like you know like the autograph of someone who's passed away by having embarked on the halcyon you know sure um and i would have been furious had i not had that experience while it existed yeah um but it wasn't it was far from perfect as the business model is demonstrating as they shut her up yes that's true if it were yeah if it were so an utterly perfect experience in every way yeah it needed some things needed to change i think to keep that going and and and not to get because there are there was clearly so much effort and passion that went into it and a lot of like talent and some impressive achievements. And I don't want to get too philosophical, but I was born and raised in LA, so I'm very pro Disneyland.

Disney World was always like, I got to get there. That's the dream. That's going to be even better. Yeah. And I've, and went, I think the first time it was like 2017 and there were things that met expectations but there's a lot that fell short oh interesting in that and i think like to just summarize like i feel like disneyland does such a great job of protecting the attendee from backstage yeah once you are once you are in downtown disney once you're in the land once you're in california

you rarely get a peek of of backstage and and and orlando by nature like there's no way to hide an entire county from the thousands of people there yeah fire stations infrastructure yeah but because of that as you're approaching these parks you're seeing the girders and the steel infrastructure you know what i mean like you're seeing your your first visual impression is this isn't real and i feel that disneyland works pretty hard to protect that that you are entering a magic realm where all of this is tangible and real um and that was my experience with the halcyon is that like as you pull up in the southwest corner of hollywood studios parking lot the first thing you see is the scaffolding at the back of batu like you just see like a mountain cap held up by a steel girder and you're like oh yeah i

guess i did splurge a life savings to dress up like a Jedi, pull up in my rental car into this parking lot to pretend for 48 hours. Of all the spots, for sure, that is weird to not. Maybe there, when you open that hotel, you do have to do the other side of the mountain. Maybe that becomes required. I think I expected a little more curation in terms of your entry and departure. That's just my biggest uh criticism of it is that as you enter there's that the sign for it was just a shipping container with like you

know galactic star cruiser spray painted on it basically and then the and then the security guard which is important and i get but he's like plain clothes you know he's in the white fedora and the short sleeves he's like do you have any blaster? You know, you can't have blasters. And he like, there's just a lot of denial out of the gate. They're like, you can't role play. Yes, this is thousands of dollars for you to fulfill a lifetime dream of existing in a universe that inspired you to dream.

Just speaking for myself, but you can't do it all out. At best, you can go 85 percent and then like like pulling up the valets there and like the guy's like what kind of car is this i'm like don't ask me that i'm wearing i'm wearing a vest i bought off ebay that like oh you can you arrived in it you were ready to i read every breakdown they said come dressed get ready to explore the ship, come ready. And that was a huge mistake because I felt like the fool I was, which is a 40-year-old man dressed up as a force-sensitive smuggler, like spacecraft collector.

With a name? Did you name yourself? Jorgen Mell. Wow. Okay. And then you're pulling up and someone's like oh is this a new chevy malibu exactly like i think you mean spaceship is this a chevy malibu spaceship it's a lane cruiser it's a chevy it's a speeder bike yeah exactly and and then like once you're in it there's so much that's

great like it like i like the screw the the windows, the digital windows are so impressive. You didn't feel trapped by that. I did not, no. And then they have their atmospheric recreated, which is just like a smoking area outside. We're like, we're recreating the temperature on Batuu. And it's just like truly a smoke break area. It's like where your dog pees at the airport.

Yeah, 100%. And probably like 200 square feet. a smoke break area it's like where your dog pees at the airport yeah 100 and like and and probably like 200 square feet like it's yeah yeah yeah like very a box of outside yes it just is and again like you can kind of hear like people waiting in line for smugglers run or whatever just on the other side of the wall you know um but also in that area like was the experience that i did hope for which like asaje which was established on it he was the sort of jedi students um they tell you to collect these rocks and you put it on a big boulder and they're like place them anywhere you want and they're like we can tell you're force sensitive and we i've been talking to my fellow crew members that you

are in touch with the force i'm like yes yes that's true and he goes you established that so they knew to bring it up yes wow the app because a lot of it's on the phone which there's good and bad about that it's like why am i staring at my phone when i want to be taking it but also that's how they keep track and that's very smart um and he goes like reach out and you reach out and the three rocks you've been like shake on the boulder and he goes try again you reach out and they all like swoop towards you with wow with force powers so cool like moments like that fully worth it like seeing two like 10 year old kids who are the people i think that experience is really meant for um seeing

chewbacca like hiding in the corner and like freaking out and going like we'll protect you chewbacca like wow yeah i still get chills like loved all that that's cool but then the tail end is like they do this big you know dinner show in the sort of atrium and kylo ren fights ray and they use force things and like he pulls her and she slides and that looks cool and they're doing they're doing you know stunt show lightsaber battles where the soundtrack of the hits don't always align you know what i mean so it's like clash um do you think they have is somebody like live doing it is it that style or do they have to learn a soundtrack i think it's choreographed yeah i think that's too i think you know they choreographed the like where things land so they

can like burn the pipe or whatever exactly i think it's like my guess would be a soundtrack yeah but it's fun it's a spectacle it's impressive but like the lightsaber that i purchased there like ray goes you know like together as one or whatever and puts the lightsaber up and i turn my lightsaber on and then a woman very much in in in terran language goes sir sir please put that down please you can't turn that on right now and i was like okay sorry about that of all the part you would think that would be let's get loud and encouraged Let's kill this guy. They very much disagree. Let's kill Kylo.

Murder him. Rip his head off. And then the next morning, you guys, 7 a.m., you hear the chime. There's this chime. Do-do-do-do. And they're like, it's time to disembark. It's time. They're like,'s time they're like get off the ship oh get off we have to clean this we have to turn around for the next people are coming at 1

p.m get out of here wow and it just that left me feeling real chilly of like oh but but this is isn't there going to be some sort of like thank you and you saved it here's your here's your you know at least a late checkout option exactly food voucher yeah blue milk vouch something they're like get out of here yeah i thought you left after this this whole time i thought it was the ceremony and then goodbye soldier and then but no you you sleep weirdly and i didn't know that either that's a weird seam that's weird it's it was it was a bummer because it's it's like a full like walk of shame you know what i mean like you're gathering your like motorcycle jedi boots

and like shoving them into your suitcase back to the world where it's not encouraged anymore like what am i wearing what am i doing kids are crying they don't want to leave like you're just like going they're like thank you thank you this way this way this way and then you pull out you know like you drive away and you're like you kind of look back like i want to take it in and it's fully just an off a square office building you know what i mean like it's a sound stage it's just a square sound stage and now you're back with the scaffolding of Batuu. Jeez, jeez. And so I was just like, ah, the entry and the exit are really rough, but while in there, there's some real magical moments. Sure, sure, sure.

So if they had massaged some of this experience, that could have been a way to help it. Wait, that's a good question. If you had to save it, not to make you put on the president of parks hat that's a high pressure hat but if you had if there was some move uh-huh is it is it well it feels like cost or size or uh yeah those seem like big ones yeah it's tricky i mean because because all that presentational stuff is like the trees hadn't grown in yet or whatever you know like that's like we'll fix that over time i think it's i like uh uh in the the podcast where you covered it they he talked about the um the heist and that was by far like the coolest thing yeah a part of an adventure of a narrative story that's happening that only 12 of the passengers know about and other now that's

full immersion yeah that ruled wow and like so i think it's like folding more of that in but i definitely think i could feel the performance union limitations if that makes sense i could feel people like needed a break like the the person somebody somebody couldn't come into your room and like with a secret mission at two in the morning because they need a sleep break. Exactly. And like they weren't on the clock till 4 p.m. You know what I mean? Yeah, sure.

So like that's, like how do you massage that? How do you figure that out? Yeah. And I just think, yeah, I think more is the most unfair simplest answer, but even in 48 hours, you started to feel some of the repetition too, right? I sure did. So it's tricky. It's tricky, but also let people have their lightsabers on.

Mainly that. Mainly that. That's probably the first one. Especially you, and if you go back to Galaxy's Edge, you should be able to do it wherever you want. In a restaurant line, in the bathroom. Yes. Yeah.

If you're charging close to $200 for a lightsaber, let the people turn it on. Yeah. If it looks weird, like they brought it from home, yeah, clock that person. If it's burning actual metal, yeah, there's concern. If there's a smell or a sound that isn't like the ones that you know we sell yeah that's fair it shoots bullets somehow yeah and they've maybe rigged it up to be more of a gun yeah they checked on the blaster a gun saber um did you ever you did like you did star wars material on saturday night live and other like you i feel like you got to like use that position to explore your like childhood interests since it was there ever was there ever some moment where

you're like wow i'm being oddly specific about this costume or this set because it has to be this way because i know it so well certainly but the beauty particularly of those star wars sketches is that like the film crew like they had like the film unit and there's the like digital short unit you know like they broke off all these like small production units the crews of those were equally nerdy about star wars so we would show up i remember for like undercover boss kylo ren yeah yeah i'd been there at that point, five or six years. And it was the most impressive build in specificity in caliber and scale. Wow. And,

and, and Reese Thomas, the director was like, yeah, we were talking, we want, we want to have some, some tie fighters flying in the background.

You'll see the hangar. And we're like, okay, that rules. That's awesome. Like seeing, we did a, we did a,

like the force awakens where it's like all, you know, all of our favorite heroes from the original trilogy aged up and they made a million Falcon cockpit. And that was like a labor of love. Cause the board was just like, you know, like a Yamaha sound mixer. And then, and then a game buttons taped to a black, but, but you could tell so much effort went into trying to recreate it as much as possible sure sure as close as they could get yeah yeah oh that's incredible so pre

galaxy's edge you you had built yourself immersion experiences essentially a few of them yeah yeah a few of them yeah and then galaxy's edge happens and you you got to go to the opening you were saying correct i've i have reached out to my, air quotes, people for two favors. Ever. For two outside of work favors. One was to connect me to somebody for season tickets when the Rams were coming back. Because I'm a big football fan. I love the Rams.

And so that was an awesome connection and a huge perk. And the second one, honest to goodness, was you have to get me into the opening of Star Wars Land. Wow. Like, if you can't swing that for me, I think I'll quit the business.

I will quit. I'll just stop. If all this work isn't worth that, then... And I was such a pain in the ass about it that by the time the day...

Like, the day... The event started, like, 4 p.m., but I made my wife go, like, we dropped the kids off at school and we went to the parks. And I was like, let's just take in the parks.m but i made my wife go like it like we dropped the kids off at school we went to the parks and i was like let's just take in the parks let's see if we can check in early let's see if we can get in and they're like no you cannot but please enjoy the parks and we walked around and we had a nice day and then i was there like 3 30 for the 4 p.m check

in and they had like a disneyland pr person greet us and they're like hello taryn we're so happy to have you here you're very excited she had a whole dossier preparation for sensitive perhaps is what we heard hello terror is it jorgan um and yeah i i just like star wars is it it's it is like i love disney i love like star wars is my number one has been since before I can remember. Yeah, yeah. And so they were like, we've arranged for a very special evening for you. And they brought us into 21 Royal Suite, like the dream suite above Pirates. Oh, wow.

And so we walked through there and we saw the two goodnight kisses. Like there's a, there's a, there's a like, so guests who stay there get locked in when the park closes. Oh, I don't know any of this. They have a butler that stays there with you all night to help if you need anything, but also make sure you don't sneak back into the park or whatever.

Yeah. And it's a two bedroom suite. And there's like, there's the prime bedroom, which has the big king bed and is much more part of its adventure land. It's like adventure bedroom, which has the big king bed and is much more... Part of it's Adventureland. It's like Adventureland fairytale land. And there's something called a goodnight kiss.

Do we know this term? Yeah. You know it from characters waving before you leave. Yes. So what is it there? They put it into the room in that as you go to bed, you hit the goodnight kiss button and the lighting changes and it starts to rain and the painting above the the the bed like mermaids come to life and dive in the water and then you see

captain hook's pirate ship fly in silhouette across the bed as you it's wild it's beautiful and then in the sort of like kids bedroom which is like two twin beds which has a much more frontier land themed vibe inside the good night kisses there's a toy train that goes around a then in the sort of like kids bedroom which is like two twin beds which has a much more frontier land themed vibe inside the goodnight kisses there's a toy train that goes around a shelf at the top of the room and what you realize is that all the little tchotchkes behind that represent different lands in the park so there's like a matterhorn where little people hike and there's like yeah it's really it's beautiful and specific and awesome can you activate it or is it do it like you do it there's a button you hit yeah okay you turn out the lights there's like a good night kiss button that they show you and and can you do it uh 25 to 40 that's

my question yeah i didn't get to find that out but you shouldn't get to stay there do you know where the butler stays um i know the hallway he enters from. Okay. If that makes sense. He doesn't have like a room in the room. He does not have his own quarters. It's not like Downton Abbey. Okay.

That's what I was picturing. Disney Downton. Downton Disney Abbey. There's like a little bell on your nightstand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it comes in just in a character.

Like it's me in a character. He's bumbling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He can't talk though because he's Smee in a character. He's bumbling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he can't talk, though, because he's got the character head on, so he's still, it's all miming, like, thirsty? Raising a cup to his mouth. So we got to see that, and then they're like, okay, the Star Wars land, Galaxy's Edge is open.

And we go in, and I was like so emotional. And my wife is filming me and laughing hilariously, she like doesn't share the same enthusiasm but she knew what it meant for me um but like seeing an x-wing you know what i mean just seeing an x-wing in scale there and an a-wing parked next to it and and and that transition on through the cave is just like they did such a great job they did such a good job and i said my only goal while i'm here is i want to build a lightsaber because i just hear that that's gonna be awesome and they're like sure yeah yeah we can help arrange that and they said we have a little uh area for you to sit in before the show starts and i was like great and i go and i sit and it's

in a booth and it's kind of like attached to the restaurant across from like Savi's Workshop or where they like sell the nice lightsabers the hammerhead yeah. Den of Antiquities there we go. Exactly. Doc Ondar. Yes thank you. We're looking for. Thank you. We're looking for Doc Ondar. I'm sorry

but you get no points. And I'm sitting there and a guy walks up and he's like, hi, Taryn. Hey, nice to meet you. Um,

I work for Lucasfilm. Uh, we know you're a big fan. Mark Hamill's here. Would you like to meet him? Ah, wow. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'd like that. No, thanks. More green milk, please. That guy is weird.

Um, so I walk over and I get to say hi to mark and he'd sent a video as a favor for a birthday and like so we talked about it and we're you know and i got to say to him like this has got to be so surreal for you because like at one point you were a 21 year old kid looking for parking for this audition for a space movie like and now you're here and and he was so kind he's like yeah and at one point he's talking to me and he looks down and i'm wearing star wars shoes with like luke skywalker like like they're like vans so it's just luke skywalker on on the flat part of my foot and he's like i

like your shoes and i had to go i'm so sorry i'm such a big fan um and so like that was like just the right amount of embarrassing and then the show starts and we all cruise oh this is a fun tangential but at that in that area kevin feige was there and that's where he told kobe that she was a scroll at the end of really yes wow because that that credit scene of her and sam in the car was scripted for the very beginning of the movie oh wow they took pieces from that and then added that whole thing he's like what's a scroll and i had to explain it to her as we're walking towards the millennium falcon like that's actually very cool trust me you're gonna be very excited it's gonna blow it is literally like expand the world like you wouldn't believe jack kirby jack kirby yeah exactly remember that shirt that you hate

washing and folding with all the faces on it that's jack kirby's art um and so we get there and like you know i'm i'm next to kevin feige and peyton reed and like brie larson is nearby and kareem abdul-jabbar like that's the kind of gathering it was. It was so weird. Different kind of Avengers team. Exactly. Still a powerful one. He's a smart one. He's written a lot of books.

The wisest. Yeah, for sure. He knows how to organize. And so it starts in Bob Iger as they're doing his spiel and George Lucas talks and it's like, that's awesome as they're doing his spiel and George Lucas talks and it's like that's awesome and then he brings out Mark and that's awesome and then they bring out Billy Dee Williams and

that's even awesomer and then Bob Iger goes well without further ado let's start up this millennium bucket of bolts or whatever like patter they've written for him and a Chewbacca shows up in the cockpit and goes and he does the start but he goes,

like the hyperdrive's not working. And Iger goes, oh, dang. Does anybody have any experience with Millennium Falcons? And you hear like, Aldorf. And Harrison Ford marches out and the crowd loses its mind. Like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar had tears in his eyes. He's like screaming. And Peter Mayhew had just passed away

like weeks earlier right and you could like look back and see the teleprompter that they were reading off of because they were like televising this and there's this beautiful moment that comes up where it says like harrison crosses to millennium falcon he goes peter's this is for you and then he hits the thing and i'm like welling up already and just reading the teleprompter. But the way, the way it was executed was great because he walks over and Harrison does like a dramatic pause. So he goes like,

and Peter, and he raises a fist. But I think the fist was the visual cue for the sound guy. So he goes, Peter, it starts and they launch fireworks and harrison ford screams the hole and it was it was fantastic

it was everything i wanted the least somber tribute to anyone ever i'm sure peter wherever he is is rolling his eyes like that man that's that makes sense that's fine yeah yeah for 30 years sweat my butt off they can't give me one quiet Peter this one for you? One nice little moment. We, like, everybody bottlenecks, and the smugglers run.

We get off, and I'm like, I'd like to make a lightsaber. And they're like, of course we can do that. We also would like to invite you to Club 33. And I'd never been. Yeah. And I was like, oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Oh my gosh.

You have a choice now? Can I build the lightsaber first? I said that. And the Disney PR people had to like talk me down. Like the tartan I was with was like, I think just go to the club. The lightsaber experience will be here. Just go to beer for a while. And so I compromised. I said, okay, let's at least walk through the shops.

So I bought like, you know, like a Jabba's Hut toad and a t-shirt, a Black Spire t-shirt. And I have like three Disney employees following me around

as I'm holding bags of merch. You just supermarket sweeped it. Let's throw that in. Exactly. And that's okay. I'm technically going

in the direction of what they're doing. Living with Michael Jackson and Doc Ondar's. I have that. I have that. I have that one. I have that one. Three of 33. Living with Michael Jackson in Doc Ondar's. I have that. I have that. I have that one. Take that robe.

And so we go to 33 and it's just Kobe and I in there and the staff. Oh my God. And I'm like, this is unbelievable. This is incredible. This is the greatest night of my life already. And we sit there for 45 minutes just kind of shooting the shit with the bartenders. And we get to see the jazz club. We get to see the dining room.

And I'd heard about this since third grade. Like, that's not real. And it was so crazy to be there. And then employees start filing in. And there's only eventually 10 or 12. But we realized that we are at Disney Corporate's PR celebration party. Wow. So it's like Iger's number two in command hosting a party

for her team oh my god and then kobe and i geez wow all the people who've all been in crazy succession stories and newspaper articles we could see the tom we could see yeah christine wow yeah these wheelers and dealers and and they go around the room like, when they announced this five years ago, this was the night we were building towards. And every person in this room is responsible for the success of this evening. Bill, the way your marketing campaign was extraordinary. And Kirsten, the way that you handled press for this. And our two guests, who are also here.

So Kobe and I. You helped, too helped too yeah we're happy you're here to grab onto our coat why is it only you where's kareem kareem didn't even want to kareem didn't even want to never read about this never heard of this club i think he probably had already done that he's like i want to go i want to ride smuggler i want to be an engineer on smugglers run and i want to go home sure can you fit in there i wonder that's a good question yeah that's a great question you have to sit sideways like like english style you can do it if you go on the floor right um and so we yeah we took our cue but not before like getting an application for oh do they have you just put that like uh when the tab comes and one membership, please?

If you don't mind, like, like literally have never been more charismatic and charming and like, hi, this is so not like what a dream job to be. And so they get there like if you're serious here, email this tomorrow. Well, they think at about 10 a.m. in the morning and on the way home exactly like I had a draft ready and then wow yeah and then yeah so we and and it was like I had to kind of talk Kobe into it because it's like some major decision exactly and and being the superb wife she has supported it so yeah in august 2019 we became club 33 members wow and then in march 2020 uh we were no longer on user membership was there ever but was there ever did you like that you were able to do it a little sooner did you was there any early or just like can we just go there and look at the

empty park or was it like fully shut off could you get the vaccine early at club 33 they had the mickey vaccine yeah yeah october 2020 um they had a soft opening the day before it reopened okay but i i would imagine you felt the same like when disney closed was that was even after tom hank like the tom hanks of it all is when people are like this is important i was like it will be fine when disney closed i was like oh no yeah yeah that was a day hey and for us who have to talk about these things for like yeah well i hope this doesn't uh keep us out of here for a year and a half keep us killing time because we can't talk about new attractions for a long time yeah we talk about silver dollar city so many times somehow we have it that's one of amazingly is that branson yes oh wow back pocket uh the um

i remember right when that all was happening like We were going to get together and record in person an episode about the Main Street Electrical Parade. And then they're like, maybe we address what's going on first. Maybe we do an episode that's a little more topical. And maybe let's try this video chatting software and make sure it works. Yeah, ZOM. I think it make sure it works. Yeah, ZOM. I think it's called ZOM. Yeah, exactly. So once we got a little more used to that,

we circled back around to the electrical parade because we're like, anything else we could talk about would be great right now. The moment where we all met our horrible master for the many years to come, the Zoom windows, we got acquainted to this awful

uh hey we're here in person now love that next year sure um as you just you're still kofit's still a thing in our lives glad you made it through this episode yeah yeah right phantom of kovid is still in our lives yes yeah yeah but now as you say you're like you're stronger than ever you You're the least. If we all had it, if we were all- Dare me to punch through that wall. Wow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see it. Let's do it. Whoa! Whoa. I don't know if you're okay. That was not a sound effect we added. I need a doctor.

All right, that's the end of that. We're going to check on you. Oh, wow. You kind of survived if I guess I read. You hurt yourself. I didn't know anyone had that much blood in them.

All welled up in their fist. Yeah. Geez. Well, what a crazy a crazy journey wait you know what else about that club 33 must have been that like i because i thought about kids at college at that time like so you just still have to keep paying for college while you can't be at the college in club 33 it's like um do we still uh does this apply to us for this year and a half they would you know what they would do the the way that they sort of helped reinforce it,

they paused membership. They did. Oh, that's okay. They handled it great. And they would send you like recipes for different appetizers they were going to do. Wow. They handled it really, really well. Wow.

Wow. Yeah. Did you try them or were those like intense? Every single one. Really? Really? I became such a barista for my wife and I in that time. Wow. wow wow yeah it's yeah did you try them or were those like oh every single one really really such a barista for my wife and i in that time wow i don't know if anybody else took to drinking during that time i was i was doing carthay manhattan's a lead home better go get that

specific kind of bullet uh barnum's vacation that's that's my favorite that I've had at the 33. What is that? It's a rum peach drink, and it is exquisite. Like a peach liqueur, white rum, a little egg white. It's superb. Wow. We got to go once to Club 33, and I don't even know if I knew it at the time, but I'm very captivated by the

exclusive merch yeah are you like the teeth they have like a Walt Tiki mug recently I saw do you have these I own this yeah yeah I'm familiar with this um the the Tiki mugs in particular are my sweet spot okay so Trader Sam's as well yep and i really have to like pace myself sure i i bought myself one windbreaker like my my first official visit as a member i was like this is it this is all i'll need and with every new hat sweatshirt like you know a duster that they come out with wow do you have a duster no i would love that'd be amazing it's it is it's a it's a dangerous thing and they know it they know yeah yes they know they're your dealer yes exactly what's going on do i want do i want the shag tiki mug in blue or the metallic gold reflective tiki mug i think probably both

you may as well get both i should get both yeah yeah backups just in case accidents happen just pre-order them all just like assume just put it on my tab when you have a new don't even make me read about what it is if you tell me where the factory is i'll pick them up i'll save that one as fast i want it still hot i want it not safe to touch i want to like put my thumbprint into the bottom when it's still like just malleable enough write my name really quick having a baby has prevented me from driving down just to get the tiki like the haunted mansion tiki mug first day yeah you know i have the i have the two busts we have those oh yeah mugs they did that a few years i have the first round of hatbox ghosts from both coasts because one has the face on on the face and

one is the face in the hatbox and they sold them different they were different and so i had to pay a premium to get the one from the from the east coast so you have all my respect yeah this is a viable tech committee could have been the topic is the actually that's the topic the mugs from all of these yeah yeah also haven't gotten to the topic so we still yeah yeah well there is decide whatever we want this that is true. I was thinking, yes, we can completely change. Yeah, this is an interactive choose-your-own-adventure experience. But having said that, we talked about Remy's Ratatouille Adventure as a ride you've been on recently and passionate about it. And you've been on in both of its forms, correct? Correct.

Because it is in Paris. It's in Walt Disney Studios Paris Park and it is in Epcot as of two years ago. Yes. So when I went to Galactic Star Cruiser, I gave myself an extra two days to take everything in. Oh, great. I was two weeks before Tron opened,

so I didn't get to do Tron. Yeah. But I did Galactic Rewind. Oh, you made it for that. We were saying we would love to talk about that. We haven't gotten to do it yet. We're going soon. Soon,on. Yeah. But I did Galactic Rewind. Oh, you made it for that. We were saying we would love to talk about that. We haven't gotten to do it yet. We're going soon. Soon.

Soon. Luckily. I can't wait to hear what you think. Two very enthusiastic thumbs up. Wow. Wow. Great. What was your song?

What'd you get? My first one was Gloria Estefan. Come on, everybody, baby. Yeah. Sure. That's what I want. I want that one. I want Tears for Fears.

Tears for Fears. That's what I want. That's what I want. Oh, they have you. And I likears Tears for Fears That's what I want That's what I want Oh they have you I like September too These are all They're really good We went twice

We got September And we got Okay Yeah Those are I feel like they're better Even selections Than Mission Breakout

Yes Even though I like Mission Breakout songs a lot I like the song I liked these songs In advance more That's what I Yeah

My understanding is That it was When it opened It was a huge library it was like 99 different songs oh my god really and that they oh wow it down to the six or seven that everybody all the imagineers agreed on we're like that's always good okay okay i can't all work on into roller coaster patterns that's a tall order for a song. Bad World by... It's an eerie effect. It's interesting.

All around me are familiar eyes. People are jumping off the ride. Raise both hands. I heard they played September all day on the 21st. On the day, on the 21st night of September. Oh, yeah.

That's a nice thing. That's fun. They should keep doing that. So you covered that. And then I went to do, to see Paris and the ratatouille area which was wonderful yeah i had done the original one in paris in 2018 okay um kobe was shooting a movie in uk and because she's a superb wife and i'm a not good husband i said let's take

the train to paris and she's like yes disneyland and so yeah so we got to we got to do it there and the paris one's wonderful because you're in paris so that feels appropriate and the restaurant is really special like oh the restaurant which is kind of like as you exit the ride you can kind of even just peek in then and yeah you get a view of it when the ride land we're going backwards but when you land at the end of it there you there's kind of a window open exactly to the restaurant and the last scene of the ride proper is the restaurant yes so that's a nice like through line and you get to go into it how was that i? I got to do it in Paris, and I haven't done it in Epcot,

but I didn't do the restaurant, which I wonder if I should have. What's your review? I was really happy with the restaurant. Really? I was very, very happy. Yeah. It was like everything's oversized. It's like you've been trunked down.

Food was really good. You can get your little ratatouille stew kind of thing that they have there do you get can you get the magical uh little ball of ratatouille you don't get you don't it's closer to speaking of anton ego it's closer to his childhood version than to the remy prepared version is my memory of it like it's a little more stewier than the version where all they're all sliced so nice and you know perfect i mean that's a magical it's it's the i so hard to make that it is the crux of the film about cooking so that's probably bad to like crank uh two thousand of those out today they probably tried and they were like this is not feasible feasible. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. We can't. I think that's right. Yeah.

This does not cook in vat form. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

It is not bone. It is maw. It is. Yeah. No, it's not bone. No, this was a question I had. It was like, will anyone attempt to say the name of the version in Paris? I didn't even write it down.

That's how much I am not going to attempt. No clue. I know it. I just wrote down the English translation, which is, it's very like, like the fancy French stuff. Ooh, oui, oui. And then, and then the English one, Remy's Totally Zany Adventure. What's the French word for zany?

What do the French call zany? Remy de Adventure, c'est les zandios. Les zandios. Do they have the notion of zaniness in Paris? Jerry Lewis. Jerry Lewis. He's so good there. That's why he's so important. I love that. Remy and Jerry Lewis are kind of unequal. notion of zaniness in paris they put his name in the title of the ride that's how hard he is there um but

okay so you did it you did in paris yeah i also have to i always gotta ask because we don't not a lot of guests on the show have made it to Paris. Overall Paris experience, because I have complained about mine. Okay. Our listeners have heard this before. I'm curious if like, did they work out those kinks? Was 2014 a weird time?

It's very, yeah. Mine will be slightly different than yours because my first time ever was New Year's 2009. It was our baby moon was to paris and again i forced my poor pregnant wife to go to disneyland and it was freezing but i was so excited to be there but it was freezing that was mine was a mine was honeymoon okay in december and that i think was the key that was that is just a it is just bitter it's just like being in ice you you yeah you kind of forget that a big city like that like is so much higher up on the latitude than than you to Paris you always kind of picture I picture at least like the sane at night twinkling and you know

sure yeah yeah yeah you don't feel it as much as in the like the the converted field essentially I just remember being in the corner of Frontierland, and then it's not developed past that, where it is just still a field. Correct. Why is our honeymoon in a field? I know we love Disney, but this feels crazy. Yeah.

Yeah. No, well, that first trip, I did enjoy the design, and the consistent positive takeaway from my first and second trip was that the layout of that, that you can see Sleeping Beauty's castle from anywhere in the park and the flatness of it compared to anything else. I really, really, really loved. Sure. That castle's incredible. It's so beautiful. It's all incredible to look at.

The design. And like Main Street's like a little heightened, a little rounder little brighter yeah good main street for sure yes but we barely lasted half a day we didn't even go into hollywood studios or walt disney studios um because i i did i remember doing space mountain and i do like the sort of steampunk element of tomorrowland in paris i love every one of those buildings. And that you launch from outside into Space Mountain. Was I too afraid to do that? Yes. Did I wait while

my wife did it? Yes, but I liked watching her waving from the cannon. We had the inverse experience. I got off the ride after doing it by myself to my pregnant wife like shivering. Let's go. Let's go let's go this is wrong silly way to be so when i did ratatouille was was the summer of 2018 much more pleasant experience

i love disneyland paris i like after that experience i love it's the best um big thunder mountain right hands down yeah i didn't get to i got the which was cool in its own right i got the walk off the best walk off i've ever gotten you went through the tunnel yeah through at the deepest possible point it could be so i'm in on the third lift hill so there was so much walking it was the longest walk through all of through i'm inside the mountains it was crazy but it's also so that's cool but i've also heard that the finale is the whole thing about it. And that's what Tony Baxter designed it to, that like the other Big Thunders kind of just end.

They're okay. And then this actually, because what is it? You're just like, you're right along the water. It's like really whipping you around. So for, yeah, for Disneyland Paris' Big Thunder Mountain, you enter like at the edge of Tom Sawyer's Island. So kind of where it is in disneyland but as it takes off you immediately dip into this dark tunnel filled

with bats that takes you under the water so the mountain itself is like tom sawyer's island right in the center of the water and it's amazing and yeah it doesn't have that tick tick tick tick tick of disneyland where you just kind of go and do the little hump and then turn to the right. The slowest of the drops. Yes, no, there's a big finale, and then you come back through the tunnel. Like you go down, boom, back through the tunnel, and now you're back. It's so well designed, and Phantom Manor was amazing. Yeah, that's so wonderful.

Beautiful. Again, I like that you can see the castle from anywhere in the park. I love the steampunk Tomorrowland. I love that in Disneyland Paris, and I can't wait to go to the parks in Asia because I'm sure there's a similar thing, but the Alice in Wonderland labyrinth. Oh, yeah. Which is not a ride. Right. Yeah. They have found a way to make a line so fun.

That was our daughter's favorite thing was just to run around this like hedge maze labyrinth of alice in wonderland stuff yeah and it's so well and it's brilliant and there's you know like but you're just standing in a line pretty much going from vignette to vignette it's so so smart and then we did uh while disney studios ratatouille is fun my favorite was the Crush Coaster. That was such an oppressive line, and we only had half a day, and I regret it.

Carly Wiseau. You've talked to Carly Wiseau. She picked that one up. That's a regret. I should have done it. It is a really great ride. Yeah, yeah. It's really, really awesome.

Crap. Well, see, I go- You really blew it. I really fucked it up. I did. I know. Wrong time of year. Missed a bunch of stuff. So many problems with it. Yeah, yeah. I think I did. You really fucked it up. I did. I know. Wrong time of year. Missed a bunch of stuff. So many problems with it.

Yeah. Yeah. Bad attitude. Maybe you were the problem. I also keep saying it was the end of the honeymoon. Maybe you end with Paris. Maybe you end with like

the beauty of the city. Not like staying at a Radisson and getting on a shaky shuttle. That's the last nice thing. Not last. I mean, I could say many, but my biggest positive takeaway from my second trip

was we stayed in the Disneyland Hotel, which is their front gate. It's so genius. Yeah. That seems like a pretty epic location. You get out of the elevator and you walk 50 feet and you're in the park.

It's so smart. Did you do a view? Were you facing out to the park? No, we were back towards the train station. Okay. So you saw in the park. It's so smart. Did you have you? Were you facing out to the park? I know. We were back towards the train station, I think. So you saw the planet Hollywood. Yeah, exactly. I would choose that view, actually.

R.I.P. Dearly departed. Yeah. Well, this ride, I was thinking how it's in the genre, the rare genre of park saver, where it's so good and clearly designed to be that way that like a park opens and by that i mean the disney studios park uh that's considered kind of weak for a while and we need to put in reinforcements uh something really great and like unprecedented in the parks

has to go in i guess you'd consider that i mean so, Soren kept California Adventure afloat, but then his Radiator Springs, I guess, the park saver or Tower of Terror. California Screamin', I think, was pretty fun, right? Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think California Screamin' was decent. It wasn't as dire as... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's closer maybe to Mystic Manor,

which I've never done, but where that, again, kind of a cheaped out on park and then, okay, to make up for this, the first big addition has to be something so crazy right high tech that you can't do anywhere else at least at that time and that's that's that's i think what rat said too he was hong kong to me is like that is the one i want to get to more than even though like tokyo disney and disney sea they say like but hong kong was like the land was built. Oh, yeah.

It was in the bay. They showed them like a bay of water and they're like, we'll build you an island basically to bring Disneyland. Yeah, it's like one of those like man-made islands in Dubai. Yes.

Yeah, yeah. The island making technology that I'm not familiar with. I don't know how it works. Same. Yeah, that's crazy. If you are, you can make a buck. If you get into the island making technology that i am not familiar with i don't know how it works but yeah that's crazy if you are you can make a you can make a buck you can get if you get into the island making racket i'll look i'm gonna look into it yeah it takes a while but a lot of work um but yeah no

ratatouille was really fun i would say like my experience was slightly dulled just because i'd already done transformers universal and it is very similar in its execution of the tech like yes the same shape car uh going from room to room and there's you know movie screen the digital projection kind of interaction like it's supposed to be seamless yeah yeah, yeah. Blending practical sets. Yeah. So I was like, okay. And I had a better experience in Florida than Paris. Sure, sure. I don't know why. You know, I felt similar.

This is a funny thing you've stepped into because Transformers is a big runner on the show. Mike has made the argument that Transformers is better than Rise of the Resistance. And some of it is one of the only avenues where I can stand firm on that. We may have to derail the topic. If you have anything you want to say about that, we can get back on it.

Too much fog. Too much fog on Transformers. That's a good note. Too much fog. Are we going there? We could if you want. That was not addressed when we talked about it. And are we going there? We could be going there. It's not even a competition. It's not even because already you are existing in a fully immersive land, off-world.

The design of what you think is the initial line is beautiful. Then you get an interactive experience within the line where you see ray you see a tangible bb8 then you see a full scale uh uh poe dameron x-wing black painted then you board a transport you get star tours before anything has really started you get amon calamari like talking to you and nine nub piloting a star tours ride you're like this is wholly satisfying in itself you could stand right next to them you can be creepily you can really bother lieutenant do you know that the design that nine is a reflection when you're seeing him he's below no no i didn't know really isn't that insane i was told that most recently that those way the space because you're on that the lazy susan they needed to consolidate space so he is actually a reflection that's happening underneath

the mon calamari really but isn't there a head isn't there a tangible head yes there but then it's under it is but you're seeing the reflection of it underneath me oh my god wow i gotta take a look at this guy again i know maybe i have to rethink the whole thing it's it's hard and by the way you're still in the line yes yeah still the line i think that's actually my favorite part is the lieutenant beck part of the whole thing yeah yeah because that feels like so much like i can walk up to him and he's there that feels yeah that feels the warmth that i'm looking for i mean in that area for me the reveal of of the hangar nothing will beat that

i've never stormtroopers the stormtroopers and you're looking out into space and it's the actual saw you know like that reveal and it's the same door you entered in like that like that is amazing isn't this funny by the by the way, just for Inside Baseball, that just several days ago, we were with Tom Sharpling on The Best Show, and he was doing the exact inverse of what you were saying. He did not like it. Yeah, like, then you get in this box.

You got to see this box, and it shakes around. And he goes, and you realize you're... Is this the ride? He goes, yeah, and you just realize this is all a line. This is all just still a line. I'm still in the line. Then the door opens the most tired person

you ever seen says, hey, you're a prisoner now. I like seeing two sides of the beauty of the spectrum of the fandom.

Well, he also had a rough the first time it broke down. Second time he had to buy the lightning lane, you know, so that adds a little more friction. He might not have little more emotional connection to some of this yeah yeah i sense that you're a bigger star wars fan it's a guess but we don't we're thinking but oh that'd be good yeah yeah yeah i that like yeah for me it is we're still in the line yes yeah i know of course

there's a line is's a right in the line has never happened before you want more line please the performative like like other than i was trying to think about it and the hollywood ride was the only other ride where mid line ride experience there's a human performative element of it that you know you are now under the you know the protection of the first order come this way and then we i had the first time i ever went on rise i had the best um resistance person come through the jail cell yeah i had the best performer i had the best it was so fun and so and it was still a little like are we jungle crews are we messing with you are we um because you go in those hallways and those hallways are so beautiful

because you're like this is new hope star wars like these hallways yeah this is princess leia jail breakout star wars hallways then you're in the jail cell and then the surprise like i'm getting i've been given two huge surprises already and the real ride hasn't even begun. When you didn't know what was coming, when you didn't know how you were going to get out of that for the first time

and where that, I maybe will agree with Tom that some of the energy has lagged a little. We were there. This is people do this. We were the first day there and that's when everybody's putting the mustard on the performance.

Love it. They gave it. This is the moment they've been waiting for for months and years. I had a guy come in who was just like, we're here to rescue you. Hop to it. Move your butts. Yeah. If anybody asks, it's just a prisoner transfer.

Let me see your innocent face. Oh, good luck. I was like, this is the best. They've been running this in the mirror every night for so long. And it's joyful. And then the ride begins. And I still, to this end, so I was on it, as I'm sure you were, when all cannons were firing.

Oh, I know. That's my favorite, and it's not working. Has it not been working? I haven't been in a while. They limited it to two because they found that that was what was eating up a lot of power. That's what was shutting it down a lot. The mechanisms that are bigger than the ride vehicles constantly miss like yeah in uh expedition everest ripping the foundation that makes me sad because that's my favorite room in the whole thing because it's the first time you hear

the theme to the star wars oh yeah yeah yeah and you're and you're looking out the screens and those digital screens yeah they look amazing I'm looking out into space. And they're playing Star Wars. I get emotional every time in that hallway. It's like the most ho-hum part. There's no animatronics. But it is. You just feel it.

Yeah, I love... And the drop. Yeah, the drop's really good. So good. Now, all that said, is there anything you want to say about Transformers? Well, again, I don't want to der I don't want to derail the episode. We did the whole episode.

All I'll say is that, Send me the PowerPoint. There was a literal PowerPoint. that now that it feels like it's going to be the ultimate Star Wars ride, there's almost things I'm missing in it, in a way of like, I don't think we're getting another e-ticket Star Wars ride ever. Maybe not.

We might not get another e-ticket ride ever. We may never ever ride again. It's 15 years. But then they're like e-ticket ride ever. We may never ever ride again. But then they're like $60 billion they're investing. They're claiming this number. We hope this is true. We'll see. It's too vague for us. We need a little more info to go on. Yeah, yeah. I just don't want to get

I don't want to pull the football away from me again. And to be fair, I feel like maybe there's a timeline issue which I could come to your side on. Well, timeline is definitely part of it. Yes. But it's also, yeah, yeah. How did you guys put it? Like, you're friends?

Like, there's none of your friends. I certainly want my friends there. Not these new, I like the new people fine. I'm not mad at the new people. That's saved by the new class, though. Where are my friends? Yes. Yes.

If they would just give me a little of my friends in there. I'm with you on that. So. At least you have Chewy. Chewy takes the place of Belding, as in all the shows. Chewy is the Belding of Star Wars. And R2-D2 is Screech. Yeah, yeah.

Chewy. Chewy had those rough few years where he was at that karaoke bar in Burbank every night with a whole food to his name. He tried stand-up for a time, too. Oh, well, of course. He does good cameos, quick turnaround. Yeah, he's always nice. Always so nice.

Really nice. He's so nice. Now he's in the building. The thing I was going to say to this argument, one point where I could relate to your mostly impenetrable argument was that I felt a little bit sorry impenetrably good that's what I meant yeah yeah so well presented but the I felt this might have

this was probably the first trackless ride I went on was Red Zatooie and I could feel that like I do like that that a Transformers or a Spider-Man has that whip that it can really spin you, whip you, just tight, precise moves. And I think maybe a common thing about Rise of the Resistance and Ratatouille that I think the track list is really cool. I really like it, and I like what it opens up in terms of you go different paths. But there's something that can be a little puttering about it. A little sterile, a little too robotic in a way. Because I want, Transformers fucks you up. It fucks your body up.

You're smacking the back of it and you kind of leave a little sore. But isn't that what you want from Transformers? Like a Michael Bay movie? So like you go on Rise of the Resistance or Ratatouille, and I haven't actually gotten to do Ratatouille yet, and not that I think Ratatouille should fuck you up but just getting slammed into those pantry shelves the fire should burn you under uh linguine's hair oh the hair whatever oh you want

to there should be mice pulling your hair yeah there should be mice pulling your hair on the right where you should pull his hair it was Yes exactly Oh that's fun There's like hair As you go by And you can pull on it Yeah giant hair Oh that's a good That's how you control That's so fun

Yeah yeah yeah They drop it down From above It's like he looks Under a counter And his hat falls off Yes And the hair's down there

And then you on the ride Can pull Which direction to go Oh that's fun yeah Geez That would be awesome actually Yeah right Wow

But yeah I agree The track list For Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway, perfect. For Pooh's Honey Hut, which is in Japan, which we got to do a couple times, it's amazing and it's perfect, like the perfect property for that type of thing. But yeah, for like Star Wars, like when they're shooting the blasters, I want the thing tipping over. I want it to be Indiana Jones where like my brain is like a little concussed from the

motion at the end. Because that's the, when you're playing with figures as a kid, you're like, you want that shake. You need to get shake. Something needs to shake you. You definitely define like the line that we are on other sides of

because I will avoid Indiana Jones at all costs. There you go. Oh, really? Interesting. And then Snake doesn't need to be that loud and I'm just like, I do, I kind of recoil from

the snake every time. It broke down next to the snake once. Yeah, so it kept doing. It kept doing it. Oh, I hate this. For like 15, 10, 15 minutes. And then I think we rode through with all the sound effects playing but all the work lights on. Yeah,

which is great because we were, of course, begging for a walk-off. We wanted that. Just praying to a god we never talked to. Sir, please. I know you don't hear from us a lot, but... I was waiting for this. Got a theme park thing. This is important, sir.

Got a favor. Someone told us, talking about the Star Wars cannons, has come up a couple times. Someone said when they were building that and they were testing those, there was one of them that was not properly aligned. And they move with such force, it hit the wall and it shook the foundation of the building. God.

Oh, my God. So if you want some increased tension, just go like, oh, this thing's going to mess us up if it hits us. Yeah. Well, maybe that's part of what you're missing, too, is there was some back and forth. Yeah, yeah. Like a little herky jerk. Oh, yes.

That's gross if they produce that part. Yes, for sure. Yeah. Sure, sure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and because it's so big, it's like the Stormtroopers, you're like, I want to feel like I'm in danger. But it's a little bit more. You want to ride that that's partially destroying the city of Anaheim's power grid.

Yes. Residents can't cook a meal tonight because... If it's working properly, people are suffering in Anaheim as far as their electric consumption. It's like the whole coaster causing all those brownouts back in 99. Yes, that's what needs to happen. So, yeah, I like Rise of the Risins a lot.

But there's so much smoke on Transformers, though. There's so much. It's a lot of smoke. Then you add that you're wearing goggles, and then it fogs. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, I was just saying, that is an area where I could relate,

where this is an attraction that is meant to be madcap, and it has that feeling. I think the ride films part of it are fantastic. But then I could feel that you would sort of leave a part that does feel very manic from the screen element, and then just slide into the pantry, and now we drift over here. And it's all good. Everything's really well done. I was sort of craving a more Transformers ride vehicle. Yeah. But in my career, did you feel,

was it somehow, you were saying it was like a better experience somehow in Epcot for him? Yeah, and I wonder like, because the last time I'd ridden it was five years previous in Paris, I wonder if like the screen technology caught up and what the actual

design differences of the track are if any but some of those transitions and and the oversized kind of prop pieces of the room that move in um i enjoyed more this time sure sure yeah um oh good oh i yeah i wrote it like a month after it opened at Epcot. There's not a fancy restaurant. There's just a casual creperie next to it and a crepe window, which I think my affection for this place is partially due to post-COVID opening stuff, where we're so happy to get down there and see this new land and we were like at the crepe window when it opened at like 10 a.m dropped the crepe window well because we had gotten trapped at the yacht because of run disney oh yeah i remember he's

complaining we got trapped there and disney wasn't open yet, but a reservation. It was 20 minutes or something. It was 20 minutes. It was like a few hours. And so anyway, we got down there and so it was so nice to go in that area. But it took a couple days to get on Ratatouille because we had like two or three days reserved at Epcot the first day just wasn't getting the virtual cues and then i finally got it and then oh thank god like we got on got in

the queue and i was like so stressed about like trying to get make sure my family got on this yeah and then when you come around the corner and there's a big uh gusteau's sign and it's playing the music for the movie i'm like okay the vibes are very good i'm very relaxed now that's good oh sure yeah the music does oh i i had totally forgotten there were 3d glasses until i was re-watching the ride through i didn't really remember i i remember the track list like this was one of the first probably second uh trackless ride i had done second or third maybe um and so maybe that was a little decreased uh uh the excitement maybe if i had done this first of like oh a new ride system cool if it's the first you know if it's the first one yeah yeah

oh for sure but um yeah i also had forgotten uh you know i always like this movie and of course there's always a joke now of like a cartoon rat pulling on your hair to make you do things but i forget always the yeah always that's how i do good stuff common thing now that's why i let my hair get a little higher sometimes um uh the rat controls linguine but then a ghost chef tells the rat what to do which i forget is a big part of this movie yes a lot of constructs yes true yeah a little chef and then a little another a ghost little also linguine is the bastard son of the chef of the ghost chef yes very Hamlet esque yeah wow

yes Ratatouille the Hamlet of Pixar oh interesting Lion King is a Disney I know but oh sure yeah I guess that's the closest dramatic family yeah yeah what are your feelings about the film you're love top three top three Pixar yeah goes number one Ratatouille

probably number two. Maybe Inside Out or Toy Story 2 is number three. Really good picks. Emotional picks. Yeah, I like to feel. Well, you should like the end of Transformers, the ride. I like to feel catharsis, not sore joints. His head, he comes out and he says he's proud of you.

This is actually relevant. I was thinking about it because the ride does... Mike is impressed that one of the great moments in ride history is Optimus Prime reaching down to you and saying... And he goes, your bravery saved the planet. Well done, freedom fighters. And I feel something there. I get that. I'm with you.

If it was only that part of the ride, you'd like it. Defense rest. If it was just that again and him revealing like, and you're my son now. And he goes one by one in the car and says something personal about each of you. And you're a good father. You've listened to the Olivia Rodrigo album. You are cool over and over again. You may be a parent, but you like it.

He calls you by your name, Taron, as opposed to E.T. You always called me Tran. Yeah. Tran. Friend. Not going to try it today, friend. Buddy pal. Hey, you.

Hey, guy. Slick. This guy. buddy pal hey you slick this guy this this ride does have a it's maybe you wouldn't call it a moment of intimacy i know i can't rival what you like about transfers but it is i like when rides end with a little round of applause for what you just did oh yeah you get a nice little welcoming committee at the at the uh the mouse Yeah. The rat restaurant, I guess. I just, I don't know. I like that in Harry Potter. I just tend to like, wow, this ending is a big round. A group has gathered.

Maybe that's my version of, I don't need a robot to get right up in my face, but I like that a crowd is, it makes me feel like I'm at a surprise party. A robot not, you don't like a robot in kissing distance? I guess I don't. I did before COVID, and now it's personal space. It's more of a thing for me.

Everyone likes a round of applause. You ever just clap for a dog? They love it. We clap for our dogs sometimes. And he likes it. Yeah, he likes it a lot. Humans like it too. To your point about the layout of Epcot though yeah i did feel a little

trapped you know what i mean it is one way in one way out yeah and that the creperie is there and then the space between the creperie and the and the ride looks like it oh is that where the restaurant is but that's just part of the line that's just part of the queue um and i feel my memory of paris is that it is all kind of the flow of it is there's much better feng shui to it. You kind of just walk up to the whole district, essentially. Whereas is it I haven't gotten to do it yet. It's you could be like around a little because it doesn't disrupt like the main. They added this on to the France pavilion in World Show world showcase which is a cool thing that they got to

just like expand like nothing ever happens in world showcase that's kind of a nuts thing that they got a huge ride yeah that'll hold they added more like uh beautiful parisian vibes so that's all cool but there's something like awkward about the like wraparound of it i thought so like you're walking by like this the sky chairs there as you come in so it's a little bit more of that oh yeah well it's a little yeah if you're staying if you're coming in the back entrance by boardwalk beach club yacht club it's a little in england yeah it's a little easier to just walk right into ratatouille for sure but it is it's like it's like you're in the tail of the right it's an alleyway yeah it's a classic theme park yeah yeah yeah um i it is i like okay you'd have to take frozen out of this i guess because frozen's like a redo of an aura so i would say that this is the first like

truly new world showcase ride from scratch in over 30 years. I think you got to go back to Maelstrom. And there's only, like, how many rides you got there? Three? Three, yeah. This is only the third of, yeah, yeah. And former Maelstrom. Yeah. And the biggest scale one.

As much as I love my narrow boat rides, I really do love my narrow boat rides. Sure. So it's exciting that they did this. And also exciting that they did this and also exciting that they did that they were willing to do a big expensive ride of not one of their biggest money makers ever like that's a hit movie and everything but you know i don't like the world where they only will do a ride of something where like the merch is yeah through the roof and like

this has to be a billion dollar generator. But the theming was too good to pass up. You have a whole area dedicated to France and specifically Paris. It feels like what's our most Parisian film. It's that. And the clone from France because it was in France

because of the movie taking place there. So it's like, well, you can't deny these two things. Correct. Save a little money, which always feels like they say they save a lot of money, and then you go, well, it still costs $200 billion. $200 million. Put on their scale, yes. You're like, okay, well, I guess they saved.

An original billion dollar. Like Guardians of the Mission Breakout. It's like, well, you know, it costs $300 million. You're like, we could have built a new ride too, I guess. Like, it doesn't seem like you saved that much money. You completely gutted it. Yeah. But what do I know?

I don't work there. I'm just a caveman. Yeah. I just like to go up and down on a ride. Hear pop music. Moments that anybody enjoys, Mike, you haven't gotten to it yet, but particular moments that stick with anybody

about the attraction. I mean, I just like the pantry. That's what I was going to say from just watching a video. I mean, I just like the pantry. The pantry. That's what I was going to say from just watching a video. The pantry. That feels like the big thing for your kid brain of like,

I'm little. This is what it's like to be little, which is fun. So many great attractions have done that. You get a big ham in this one. You go under a big ham. Delicious. Ham.

French ham. The load in and load out. It's great. The Parisian skyline and the bit listening into the windows and stuff like i really really love that yeah actually you know that was a being that i did it so long ago when i read somebody's review of it and they called that out as like the when you're about to board that it's it's pretty magical and like the soundscape of parisian i think maybe i didn't take that in fully then,

so I'm excited for that in Epcot. Another thing I forgot, I don't know what the smells are. There's smells in this? Anybody know? I'm not sure, actually. They don't stand out to me. Can't really pinpoint. So they're not in the great pit. Do you have a favorite theme park smell?

Ooh, yeah, the oranges in Soarin'. Yeah, yeah, great. Coming back soon. Or it's in Epcot. It's in Epcot right now. Now. I saw a massive line on Twitter or whatever, X. Look, there's people going crazy for the return.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're excited about it. Do you care about that distinction, the Soarin' California versus world? I appreciate both for different reasons. I do find, um, you know, specifically just talking about Paris, the Eiffel tower in Soren over world always takes me out a little bit. Cause unless you're dead center,

it's a little bendy. It's crazy. And I find that more in world, like they shot that first without taking into consideration the half bowl screen. They're going to be, and California has far less of that. Yeah. Maybe golden gate a little bit, only that, but not nearly of that. Yeah, maybe Golden Gate a little bit.

Only that, but not nearly as much. Yeah, they're insane. You can watch ride-throughs and photos of that Eiffel Tower. Yikes! Is it sick? Salvador Dali Eiffel Tower. I didn't know it could melt. Wait, that's a, you know, before we say a little more Ratatouille stuff, are there any, are there like big theme park stances that come to mind?

You know, any of the debates where you've got like a firm, you know, anything like that, you know, the Haunted Mansion holiday goes too long or anything you're like, this is a hill that I die on. I'm not as much of a purist in terms of like, you know, like even this resurfacing of Splash. I'm all for, I'm excited because it like makes sense and to have a thrilling princess ride

is like, you know, Frozen was the closest, you know, Frozen gets the close. But so, and I feel like as a collector of things that matter to me it's fun you know to collect the things that that are finite right so I like changeover

I don't have a strong like I'm not so I don't have any like firm lines of like don't do that I could do without Captain Jack and Pirates yeah that's a good one yeah yeah maybe that's not so controversial but like get it out of here and even like female red pirate the new one yeah like

yeah I'm not great I understand and yes and fine and great. Do that. Do a change. But why the voice is so distracting. Like, she's so cheery. It's so like, it's the run they want.

You know, like, I'm just like, yeah, a little great. Like, if girls can be pirates. I've always said that on record years ago. Search any podcast. Make her the fiercest of all. You know i mean like make her like get crazy yeah back off or i'll fire one in your gut you know like yeah like that'd be dope yeah taking a pig hostage it's so apologetic it feels so apologetic in it yeah Yeah, yeah. Sure. It's a little too digital, too. The Rosita bird backed by the Dole Whip. Oh, true.

It's all just a little too clean. Like, it needs some filters to make it sound like it was done on analog. Yes. And, like, you know, a tired Imagineer or, like, an aging character actor is, like, grinding this out. Chain smoking, and they're like get it get cheryl to do it you know we can't hire an actor just get cheryl to do it hey we love your voice we love your take on the character could you just drain this carton of palm oil we will give you hazard we recognize this is an insane request we'll take care of your family after you are gone. Yes.

You can run analog tape through things and add extra hiss and crackle, but you can't really throw a hard drive down the stairs. Yeah. Just breaks it. Doesn't add any nice qualities. No. Yeah, that's true. They could have a little more fun. Yeah, at least. And like, get

some teeth out of there or something. Yeah, dirt. up yeah like she's just like there's a bunch of the most hideous men with the craziest voices hello there i'm a beautiful woman pirate you're like this isn't quite what you think it's doing yeah yeah this isn't you're not making... Inspiring a generation. Your co-worker is napping in the mud with pigs. Yeah, but... Like, he's making his Union 15. Give me a dirty lady pirate in the mud with the other one. Pretty dope, yeah. Yeah, and they're making out or something.

Yeah, yeah. But get rid of Captain Jack first. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. More animatronic. Take all those guts. We like an animatronic that moves that quickly. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah more animatronic take take all those guts we like a man an animatronic that moves that quickly yeah yeah yeah make them all new lady pirates make them all like disgusting

lady pirates holding holding that are fun yeah of of neutral spirit yeah sure if that's what it has to be yeah and they're doing like worse stuff than the men too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they're doing really despicable things. Actually one giving a tattoo. Yeah. You know what I mean? With just like squid ink. And they're not licensed to do it. Squid ink and a dagger.

Yeah. Yes, yes. Somebody walks up just with a squid. Yeah. Puts it right in there. Yeah. And inks it live. Let's see.

What have we missed about like uh about rats too you get a fun champagne cork burst at the end it fires you backwards some of the force person i like some of the perspective like like they do the falling through the ceiling yeah yeah skittering under stuff and then um oh well linguine like talks you, like sweeps you out of the way. Yeah, sure. That I think is done pretty well. I do have a question or maybe a complaint. This is one of these rides.

They end up in awkward territory sometimes where like the events of the film change the universe. And then you got to do the ride. And this is one where it's like, when is this happening? He has the restaurant, but chef skinner still works there and linguine's in the kitchen he has it because doesn't is the end of the movie that they're all they're all out of there all our all our friends are out of uh gustos yeah here like up by momatra or whatever like they're in the hip part of the neighborhood. Different district. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. Yes. Isn't Shea Remy is not above Gusteau's. Is it?

No. I haven't made, I haven't seen the end in a long time. I'm pretty sure it's in like the area called Montmartre, which is like where Sacre Cure is up on the hill and there's all the artists there and stuff. Oh, is that, they did move to like a, it's a hip hop start restaurant. Yeah. At the end of the movie, it's revealed hip-hop start restaurant yeah at the end of the movie it's revealed and like the restaurant closes down and the critic is fired but then renny and tattoo and linguine

make a little bistro yeah and ego invests and he's very happy my understanding like having seen it enough times like like gusteau's is sort of like notre dame adjacent maybe like east of notre dame kind of closer to the river too because he rides his bike there to get rid of him and then at the end of the movie the last shot of the sign they're up on a hill so i i feel fairly confident it's gotcha it's near moment is gustos somehow more uh touristy Are they trying to convey that? Yeah, maybe they franchised out or something and he comes in and does like a... It's like a Bubba Gump at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The film was a

documentary that exists within the world and now... Y'all hear? Branson's got a Gusteau's account. Branson's Silver Dollar City. It's in Silver Dollar City. Anyway, you know, logic complaint, but that stuff happens. For sure.

It's a weird thing when, like, because I don't like finding Nemo that just, the submarines, that the same stuff just happens again. Well, that's so much. Nemo is lost again. Right. But this happens in rides. Most dark rides, yeah, are just sort of telling you the same story. Yes. I guess so.

For example, the Transformers ride is mostly doing the beats of the Spider-Man ride, which was my big argument. Take that. And at the end, Spider-Man says, like, thanks, guys, and takes your picture. And it's a lot less- That's true, but he doesn't say it in an emotional way, though. No, but it's less intense. I love Spider-Man.

The underdog way. Yes, right. That's true. And I have a more emotional connection to Spider-Man from my childhood. No, but it's a less intense. I love Spider-Man. The underdog way. Yes, right. That's true. And I have a more emotional connection to Spider-Man from my childhood. Yeah, I do too. But Optimus in my adult years, I connect with so much better.

And not from the films, from the ride. From the ride, yeah. I don't care about the movies. Uh-huh, no, no. Yeah. I've seen the first movie once or twice and that's about it.

You connected with him at the end of the first time you wrote it so that at the start of the second time you wrote it, you're like, I love you now. Yes, I love you now, yeah. Beautiful. Spider-Man ride is great and better than the Transformers ride, technically.

Technically. But not emotionally. But not emotionally. I see, it's about emotion. Wait, that's a question. Emotional moments in theater. It seems like your top ones, you got to meet beyond the characters,

the real, you know, Mark Hamill and, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Sure. But, uh, are there still,

who do you like 10 year olds out about, uh, or, or, or do you remember any time in your life? Like I met this character and this was, Oh, um, I mean, I'm, I mean, I'm a hardcore Goofy fan. Anytime I see Goofy in the parks, I'll go out of my way to take a photo.

Yeah, yeah. I like when Goofy's kind of fancy in 1930s over in Carthay. I do, too. Yeah, in California Adventure. Right. Newsy cap. It's a sharp outfit. High-fives.

Yes. adventure right newsy cap it's a sharp out yeah um yeah in terms of like you know mickey will always be mickey um i love mickey i um my dad always my dad's a big jiminy cricket fan loves jiminy cricket oh wow so there's like an emotional connection he's my optimus prime i say yes he's emotional yeah um yeah but i will say like some of these like seeing um seeing uh the new captain america out there is freaking dope oh sure yeah sam you know um uh is cool is this the question that you asked? I think so. Yeah, yeah, sure.

Why not? Because it started emotional, and then it was like 10-year-old. Like, who am I excited to see is how I took it. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah. Who, like, leaps past the construct? Like, I know what this is. Yeah.

And yet this still is giving me the moment of, yeah, yeah, yeah. Any kid superhero stuff, like, kills me just because it's like. Yeah. Yeah. Superheroes feeling real was always my desire throughout childhood. Yeah. Yeah. But I think goofy is the more succinct answer.

Goofy, I'm always like, oh, man. Taught me how to ski. You try to put your pajamas on after legs spread so far. There was no way you were going to get down the hill that far apart. You thought you could golf. I could use that. I don't I'm not the that voice. I could use that in the park somewhere when skiing. It's oh yeah. Oh, I know I could use that voice in the park somewhere.

That would be, yeah. That would bring me happiness. Has that ever been? I think there was some obscure Epcot thing in Wonders of Life that was kind of structured like that. Oh, the Goofy. Oh, God. A ride of the Goofy. When ordering a corndog from Corndog Castle, you must decide what is best.

To have a meat or cheese focused corndog castle you must decide what is best to have a meat or cheese focused corndog make your choice before you have reached the window is always preferable that's gotta be you could put that in toontown somewhere yeah that would be an easy yeah yes that would be an easy thing even if it's like a photo booth you know i mean sure whatever like when selecting the picture to best capture your visage please like that'd be awesome yeah they you can't really go in goofy's house right um you see something in there i don't know what it is i don't know what the it's like a little bit but like it's not like that old i don't know what mickey's house how what's the limit of mickey's house now that runaway railway

is there do we never do he hasn't been shifted mickey's house hasn't been shifted i don't think because it was always closer to the the gadget But they got rid of the whole long line To get to the meet and greet I believe Because remember you used to go from his house Into the back Minnie's was always closer to where Runaway Railroad is It was Town Hall is my memory

Like City Hall that they kind of Shoved Yeah I think so His house is the same. I just mean that you used to be able to walk through it and then you could walk through the movie barn. Yeah. And that's all you think. Is that still there? I think that's all still there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's more north and many like they folded part of a gift shop, but they took over a storage, like a sound stage behind it. So I don't think that they took away anything that was in the footprint. Really, all I want to say is I want Goofy's house to be that long.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my guy, too. Yeah, that's true. I want to see this silly guy's house. Yeah. This silly dog. It's just a bounce. Like, hey, there's just a couple of rooms.

Like, Goofy's bounce house, but it's not that bouncy because that's not safe. Right. it like hey there's just a couple rooms like goofy's bounce house but it's not that bouncy because that's not safe right and it's there's a lot more garden now since toontown has reopened which is nice astroturf yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but donald's boat is certainly more um you can explore it much yeah yeah sure sure yeah yeah um you're right about that narrate just anywhere by default where they need when using the urinal yes try to not splash on the ground yes uh uh so uh also more people might use the app i would say if that if the app talked to you like yes if that if that's the guide of the well what about just having your ways do the voice yeah oh that's good lankers. When turning onto Anaheim Boulevard,

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This is just a formality. We already have it. I was just being polite. Scanned your eyes many times. All right. Well, any final thoughts? We've been all over the map, but is there anything else to get out of it?

Really, of anything? Kiss goodnight to this ride to uh or anything you're looking forward to in near theme park future was there merch from this ride or anything i don't know i'm sure there was i i didn't seek that out oh you know what there was when it i don't know if they ever did it in paris for the ride and i was i i assumed that they would in the in uh shea remy or whatever uh but in world showcase they used to have in the french restaurant they had a little really delicate little animatronic of remy who they bring up to the 10 he's like surrounded by strawberries and cheese and what

and you could like hang out with him well like what they do with grogu now kind of thing like because they'll bring around what do they do with Grogu now kind of thing. What do they do with Grogu? Oh, he's in a bag. They're wandering through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty cool. Huh, huh. Can you feed him anything? Can you do anything for him?

Don't touch. This is not the way. Yeah, yeah. In terms of merch that I'm excited about i've started collecting the like hundred coin like the okay anniversary hundred years of disney coins around disneyland and you get them at different spots yeah they're not inexpensive for like a vending machine collection oh okay but they but they do feel significant once you have them right um are there a hundred of them?

It's like, I don't know. I don't know. Okay. It's like the updated pressed penny. Yeah. But I'm up to, you know, if you can get four at every machine, close to 30. Oh, wow. That's pretty good.

I like them. I like this feel good. You pick the design or the randomized? There's like four options. Yeah, the random. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can do you can do one or one or all um i yeah in terms of ratatouille uh like some more anton ego because

i mean you started with him and and his sort of soliloquy at the end of that movie is like yeah i always get very emotional about that's that's another like optimist prime moment for me of like understanding that creation and making art no matter the quality has more value than anything tearing it down it's like one of the best written uh monologues i think in any in any movie but certainly any disney movie geez yeah i gotta re-watch that uh um so you should hear that monologue or a monologue equivalent to it and you should just sit in a room in front of a while he says that to you. Yes. And then says he's proud of you. Yes.

But instead of creating art, it's about waiting in line for a long time. Then ultimately the payoff is worth it. Yeah, tailor it to a theme park experience. Yeah. And then just use the AI voice. Use his voice. Yeah, yeah. Take Peter O'Toole's voice.

We're all in favor of that. Yeah, yeah. Don't pay his family any money. No, no, no. Yeah. We've got something important to do here. And I do thank you on behalf of Mike for calling that an Optimus Prime moment.

Yeah, thank you. Using the parlance. I appreciate that. Intimacy equals Optimus Prime. Yeah. Well, I feel like we made it. I we can say Taren Killam you survived podcast the ride what a thrill so happy to get to do this and thank you

for filling us in on your whole emotional journey from Galaxy's Edge into Club 33 and into an ever growing coin collection yes knowing that strikes are going on uh at least as we record this i don't know we haven't checked yeah yeah we all gotta check our

phones and and then later this episode like they thought it was gonna end that day it went another psycho went another two years after this episode anyways nonetheless, let's exit through the gift shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug? No. No. Solidarity. Union strong. I've been a fan. Kyle Mooney told me

about this podcast, I think at this point, like five or six years ago or something. Oh, wow. And so I've been listening for a long time. Oh, gee.

Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. I'll be here with you all. We're so happy to have you. Yeah. And you know, same thing. something oh wow and so i've been listening for a long time and oh gee thank you thank you appreciate it i'll be here with you all we're so happy to have you true yeah and you know the same thing i've like i've heard you're a big fan of this stuff and i knew it'd be super fun to talk to you so uh thrilled you could make the time so thank you kyle for setting it up and also then the twitter user who nudged it who is reggie's reggie woogity woogity is the yes uh who also says abolish ice in their bio okay all right so that's good and then uh getting taryn on the show also good so thank you for that uh as for us you can find us on the socials at podcast the ride merchant rt

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