Podcast: The Ride - Revenge of the Mummy with Matt Rogers

Episode Date: September 11, 2020

Matt Rogers (Las Culturistas) returns to talk Velocicoasters and Universal's "psychological thrill ride".  SMRT-1 Episode up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever. Dog. Warning, the following podcast contains mockumentary style humor, fake endings, sexy humotap, and we finally answer the question, what is Michael's favorite Britney Spears song?

All this, and Matt Rogers joins us to talk Revenge of the Mummy. Hey, your souls are mine. This is Podcast the Ride. Welcome to Podcast the Ride, a theme park podcast hosted by three men who all have a secret fantasy of being eaten alive by a horde of scarab beetles. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. Yeah, I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Scott Gairner, do you also agree with that? with that oh of course that's how you want to go

i mean it's at least quick if horrifying and but maybe a little weirdly pleasurable yeah i i i guess they make it look quick in all the movies and tv but i do have a suspicion maybe it's kind of slow it's kind of a slow death they don't all move at that hyper speed yeah on the universal tram tour when whoopi gets eaten alive by scarab beetles i feel like it's very quick but that's just i think for time oh sorry go ahead i was just gonna have the fantasy but i think maybe it's it's just based on fiction you know i'm glad there's just scarab talk happening in general uh love scarabs um is anyone confident that scarabs exist in real life and that you could exist right or maybe they don't i don't know i mean look do i ever actually do any research pertaining to the real world when

we do this podcast i don't so that's not what we're doing here no way to know it did not occur to me to research scarabs i was mostly looking at track lengths and budgets to try and get to the bottom of a long time mystery yeah it's gonna be insane what the heck happened here yeah i was just i was just looking up linear induction motors i uh yeah i gave up on trying to understand that uh look i think our guest probably wants to talk about linear induction motors as well uh you know him from oscultures and his upcoming hbo max show hot dog it's matt rogers returning hey what's up everybody i just want to say before we start i'd like to die peacefully in my sleep but um the scarab beetles thing is definitely a theatrical way to

go however i don't think it's painless the way that they scream when it's happening i don't know i don't know you guys yeah but it might be quick what if it's like ah you're gone yeah but here's the thing it's like if i if i'm gonna have a quick death it should be quick and painless you know what i mean like it happens instantaneously otherwise what does it matter how quick it happens like you're literally getting eaten alive by beetles like think about what it feels like to be stung even one time imagine that all over your body and also it's kind of starts at your feet and then goes in the last thing that happens is your eye gets closed up like you know what's happening just like physically and like emotionally that has to be true terror it does i don't disagree with what you're saying but i think

part of me also would be kind of thrilled that i'm going out like whoopi did on the tour so i think maybe just sort of the tribute to whoopi on the tram tour i would be like oh this hurts so much but oh this is pretty cool you'd be amongst legends in the way that you die exactly yeah so i think maybe that could override the true physical pain um i don't know we'll have to find out and we'll never know go out it's uh scarab beetles her i imagine alan menken will go that way oh yeah probably yeah um so before we're gonna talk you know mummy today revenge of the mummy um but matt i don't know if you're aware of this. Last time, you've been a while since you were on the show.

Yeah. But there's been a lot of character development on the show since you were here. Which we love to see. We love it. We love it. Gross. Narrative people love to follow. Yeah, growth, human growth.

You deem Scott Gairdner a no-launch queen. Yeah. I heard that it-launch queen. Yeah. I heard that it kind of became merch. Yes, merch. Did it sell well? I don't know. Well, I'll tell you that launch queen sold a lot better than no-launch queen. Nobody wanted to proudly.

No-launch queen is like, no, who's going to come out as a Scott? You know what I mean? Who's going to come out as a weakling who can handle it? Can I ask you a question? Have you not done the mummy because of the launches well that's what was the case you see when we recorded before but just like look at that you're right nobody wanted to identify as a scott least of all scott um i didn't like that that label and i i think I became determined to overcome the label so not too long after that with the help of a bunch of Chardonnay I braved the Incredicoaster I got over the launch issue did I end up doing it twice I feel like I went I'm not sure

well the point is it quickly became one of my favorite rides in the park it's one of the ones I'm dreaming of now I've watched ride throughs of that a ton uh quickly went from just to completely loving it and then we all went to orlando together in october and i'm launching all over the place yes yeah yeah nice with only sort of uh crazily humid a little less than it could be um but i'm i'm rock and roller coaster i'm uh hagrids hell yeah i'm uh uh well besides orlando there's that you know that horse one we did it not a bunch of times in a row pony express pony express there you go um did you get on the hulk didn't do hulk that is that is the one of of the uh of the launch lineup at that park now that you've started you will i think so i think so and and you and and of course all of that building up to revenge of the mummy which after all that that launch not too bad at all

that's a lot lesser than some of the other launches that i listed okay so i'm actually going to say this and you know the the fans of the podcast might disagree with me but i actually think that the launch in revenge of the mummy is a more intense launch than the one with hulk because i think that the way that you pop out of your seat at the top of like the airtime that you get at the top of the first launch of the mummy is one of the more thrilling moments to be found in the entire city of orlando to be honest with you like i think it's one of the most intense things that can happen to you on a on a ride in the city of orlando well i i wouldn't disagree i think it's heightened too by how cold and dark and like windy it is in there you don't

know what's gonna happen like the thing is you've seen the hulk do what it does a million times and so you know what's in store for you which is that sort of i guess inversion coming out of the tunnel whereas you have no idea where it's going when you shoot through that mouth of um imhotep i yeah true no yeah no idea the the layout i i knew very little about any of it i that's that's the really the benefit of some of this launch queen journey that i've been on is now i get to like have these new rides to me which i have i haven't had completely new rides since i was uh you know it's so exciting i so wish for that i feel like um it's actually better to not know anything about the mummy before you do it like whenever i bring people to the my favorite thing to do now is to bring people to that park that i've never been there like i took my friend sudi there and we just put her on the mummy and just didn't tell her anything about it

and it's really fun to watch someone experience what it is because i actually it is my favorite ride wow yeah um i don't it's it's it's strong i mean getting to do it really not really knowing i knew some of that meta stuff and everything i mean that that was a blast and was i not conditioned a little bit i i wouldn't have had definitely one of the peak new ride experiences of that trip yeah yeah i was gonna say the hulk also i think is so intense that it almost gives your brain only one experience the whole time like you kind of just gray out immediately and you're just doing it the mummy you're going through the levels you're experiencing different emotions hulk is just one emotion the whole time the thing about the mummy is it truly is the reason why i think it's the most successful

ride in the park and it's actually one of my favorite parks is because it genuinely um combines a thrill ride for real with a narrative experience um and i think that uh that's not something you can say for hulk like you're just not you're not removed from the experience of being on a roller coaster the entire time like um and i i do feel that the back half of hulk hulk is pretty weak in terms of design goes that's why i'm so excited for the jurassic coaster which looks like which looks like it's going to be incredible in the first half and then even better in the second half i think the way that that is shaping up to be designed is really cool and the the insider intel that i have um apparently when it's all done and themed and like put

together it's going to be pretty amazing um wait you have you do have info because you predicted on our show before it was public you always have the raw intelligence i said this was gonna happen on your show i said this was gonna happen on your show yes oh this ride to the jurassic one did you predict i did i said wow i didn't remember that oh my god you're way ahead and now you ahead has it been that long ago where i said it was rumored or did i break the hagrid stuff to you guys the born you said born for sure yep yep i'm trying to remember what the specifics about jurassic were so maybe i didn't because it was like a very gray rumor like it wasn't it wasn't like a thing that was definitely going

to happen but for years there's been this jurassic coaster rumored and then like probably about a year ago there started there started to be um markings discovered on the ground and clear small clearings happening where they were like something's definitely going on and now we see like they're putting what is definitely i think going to be one of the signature rides of the resort i mean it looks unbelievable on social media raptors are being constantly lowered onto this track i mean i'm sure we're all following these twitter accounts yes and large birds of prey have made their home there yeah the ospreys are like living on top of the top hat yeah it's it might become a problem um uh it it will be going forward unless they like like once the train once the trains start

going like they'll know not to be there but for right now it's like it's so funny because you'll see updates that they've made a home on top of the top hat and then the next day they're like the osprey nest has been removed and then it's like the ospreys are back the osprey nest has been removed the ospreys like oh i was gonna say the ospreys like me are concerned about the eye lines when you enter islands of adventure that the beautiful view of the jurassic park visitor center is now obscured by black track all around it see what do you guys think about that i think it uh it kind of hasn't uh i'm i'm not wild about it i think the coaster will be good but on the other hand they haven't really done the boats that crisscrossed that lagoon

in like oh god 15 years yeah years yeah it's also like it's like the visitor's center is cool and it's cool that it's like framed like that but it isn't quite like they just put up a roller coaster in front of sleeping beauty's castle because it's kind of far so far away it's not the central icon of the park and therefore it doesn't ruin anything aesthetically for me for me it's just like flat out there was nothing in that area and now they've put a huge e-ticket in that area which is a great thing for any fans of the parks, especially if you're a proper rollercoaster enthusiast like I am. For me, it was devastating when they took down Dueling Dragons,

and I love Hagrid's, but it was missing that big rollercoaster to say, I am the same intensity level as Hulk, and I'm thrilled. Thrilled. Yeah. Yeah. I think it'll be fine.

I might not even have like maybe quite noticed it oh like oh you can't see it i like it wasn't going to be that that big of a loss for me um matt do you know anything about i don't know if feel free to share feel free to say no do you know what yeah i know some stuff blues role in the coaster is the famous raptor blue so i don't know about root brew i don't know about blue's specific role in the ride i do know some facts about what was going to happen in the ride before all this covid stuff happened which i think now there's a little bit up in the air stuff but the ride was supposed to have six raptor animatronics throughout i think what was the idea was there would be two and this is going to be you know

if you're if you are the kind of person who wants to be a purist and experience these things first just know that a this is definitely not for sure and b this is going to spoil some stuff but um in the first room the first show scene that you go into um there are supposed to be two raptors in there and then you launch sort of like the way chris pratt um launches with the motorcycle with the with the raptors in the movie jurassic world into the ride then there's two which we've now seen placed in the actual ride layout itself and they they are literally there it's um sort of unclear whether those are audio animatronic or just figures i hope they're audio animatronic but i

don't know they've definitely been as we've seen in the ride we're going to discuss today like they've been known to just put figures of mummies in there that don't move and you know i don't think they would do that now but we'll see with budgets and then um there's supposed to be one or two more that happen at the end of the ride as like a final scare um and so so it's again it's two in the first show scene with the launch two during the course of the ride one at the end and apparently there's one in the queue like one really really really advanced audio animatronic that's in the queue that sounds like blue doesn't it potentially i but i again i don't know specifically what blue's role is or if there is a role for blue um because blue is at the raptor encounter like that's like the big thing

with the raptor encounter is you go meet blue or whatever so i don't know how canonical they're being about this probably not very but um i don't know about any celebrity cameos i don't know about anything like that i i know clear deering's role uh it's clear deering she definitely went back bryce dallas definitely went back and did stuff for the jurassic world ride in hollywood and so did chris pratt i don't know what their role is in this i would imagine it's something also maybe we can get some bd wong action up in here um oh yeah uh he is in gen and so this is an in-gen themed ride um i don't know that it's definitely called the velocicoaster but it looks like it is um what's the premise are you is it simulating the movement of a raptor what like what are we in the ride i don't know

if we're a raptor or we're the motorcycle that is like the thing that chris pratt is riding however i will say it would be a little redundant for them to do a motorcycle thing now they've put the harrid ride up but but i don't know how down they are to do the thing of like you're a raptor the way that you were a dragon on dueling dragons i just don't know if that fits in with the narrative of the park um or that area of the park like we are very much humans experiencing jurassic world or jurassic park as it stands now um but i don't know how much they're gonna bend um sort of narrative disbelief there but i know that we're getting a bunch of animatronics i don't know if all six made it with all the stuff that's going on with covid you've seen them you know sort sort of narrative disbelief there but i know that we're getting a bunch of animatronics i don't know

if all six made it with all the stuff that's going on with covid you've seen them you know sort of drop the progress on epic universe and everything but they sure are full steam a fucking head with the jurassic coaster so it looks like every dollar they were going to spend on it has been spent so far i mean who thought we would have gotten like an enclosure you know like it's so cool what's happening there they're really going all out and i think it looks like it's going to be the best ride in the park wow it's crazy we get the scoops with you that you're willing to impart whatever this internal this is like a passion of mine like i i i'll follow i'm sure everyone that you know listens to this is following at bio reconstruct on twitter like there every day he's so diligent um about like posting new

stuff and then i follow like on youtube like midway mayhem and i follow like all these like youtubes like you could really fall down a wormhole because some of these people are going to the park every day and just recording like the progress which i appreciate but um you know just a way for me to live my inner child without actually going to the parks sure well yeah because uh i met you know we could all be going to universal orlando technically how high is anyone's desire to actually do this among us well not that high i i think at this point uh i think my fear is less about being in the park maybe if it's really crowded that would probably stress me out but i just don't think i'm ready to sit on a five-hour airplane

yet a five-hour flight as i've flown cross-country a couple times it's really safe and i will yeah they make you feel really good about it you know what i would do is i would just spring for like a clear membership or whatever just to like make sure you don't have to wait on long lines like just pay the extra money if you really want to go somewhere but but the flying of it all wasn't what bothered me what bothers me is the florida of it all well that's another aspect you're right very important like you're not dealing with it with with the finest sorry you haven't gone to florida though no okay no you're not thinking of an orlando trip anytime soon no i'll here's what i'll say if when when this coaster opens if covet is still happening i i will go but um but i'll be really safe about it

but i i'm like not going to be able to wait on this one like i really want to ride this i've had the same way with haggard's like the second it opened i went down there and i i did it and i was really happy that i oh yeah you did it we we did it and did a whole episode about it oh my god what a what a blast it's amazing it's so they did such a great job of course like you know with their with universal's animatronics they're always lacking and whenever you go to disney and then go to universal it's always like i mean there's a marked difference in like the quality of their animatronics but they did what they did and i'm really happy they used practical sets and effects and it was a real thrill ride and they were super ambitious with it and i think

it was fucking great yeah yeah but yeah i think i might have sat out if you had not called me out as a no launch i might have missed what i called the best ride in orlando had i not made some done some internal work it might take that spot for me for the mummy yeah oh it wasn't really was mummy and now maybe hagrid's for me yes because because hagrid delivers on the same thing i was talking about with the mummy which is it's a real thrill ride that has narrative elements which is what i think these things should be and it takes up a lot of space and it makes sense um you know you sort of like need launches to make this possible because you have to like it's it's pretty hard to start a ride and then

it just goes and goes and goes like you need slow downs and stops and pacing to really tell a story and give you a full narrative experience agreed yeah um but before we go to mummy i will just ask matt do you have any i mean everything's canceled pretend potentially at this point do you have any epic universe scoop type i do i do um probably not much more than you guys know but i know that the lands the planned lands were um obviously in the super nintendo world and then there was a classic monsters area which i was really excited about i've been waiting for them to do this for so long i've been waiting for them to commit to how good they are at at horror um and bring that uh halloween horror nights energy all year round with a land and i think that what they had planned was really cool it was um do you know about this the kuka arm

thing yes it was a similar to the forbidden journey style but it was actually going to be on an actual roller coaster track yeah it was was going to be, um, with all the classic monsters. And then their idea for an expansion was they were going to do the creature of the black lagoon, which is like a jaws type thing. Whoa. So that was going to, that was going to come in the years to come,

which we probably won't see until like, you know, 2030 now. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the universal monster stuff feels like money in the bank. Like it feels like it's,

it's, it's such's it's such a and there's going to be a huge amphitheater there like where they were going to do some type of show um but it's so obvious to me that that's what they're missing because they're so good at it and it's such a part of the universal's history and brand so that there was obviously um uh another harry potter expansion it was going to be more focused on um uh fantastic beast which There was obviously another Harry Potter expansion. It was going to be more focused on Fantastic Beasts, which for me sucks, but that's what they were doing.

And then there was a How to Train Your Dragon Land, which was going to be more of the kids stuff because Nintendo is going to be, obviously it's for kids, but it's more for everyone. And there actually are some legit rides there. There's going to be not only the Mario Kart ride, but it's more for everyone. And there actually are some legit rides there. There's going to be not only the Mario Kart ride, but also the Donkey Kong roller coaster. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then there was a huge dueling launch coaster

that was themed to space, which was like just in the hub of the park. It wasn't themed to any particular land. What? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You have to look at the concept art because it's all there. The all there the curvy building like off to the one side yeah it's it's somehow themed to space and there's a restaurant there that's themed to space but basically the central hub of the epic

universe was basically going to be themed to elements so you're getting water fire earth and then air and they were i think they were connecting space with that somehow but there's like a fire barbecue restaurant they were going to do between classic monsters and super nintendo world there was like a very cool like waterfront um more fine dining restaurant that was like water themed and there was going to be smaller attractions throughout that central hub because the way that they're going to end up doing it again this was all pre-covid this was all announced but it's basically going to be you enter each land with the wristband that you have it's like you can just walk to the park and do whatever somehow i don't know how they were going to do this but it wasn't like you walk into islands

of adventure and you're in the park now it's like you have to enter each land um and then of course there was that huge hotel that they were building um which is like their major resort right um but they were really trying something different with it i think there's going to be almost entirely virtual queues um because that's the way that they want to go after the success with it that they feel they've had um but yeah i was really excited about yeah yeah i mean the tele them being owned by a telecom is maybe the only saving grace that it won't take another 20 years for them to do it you know they have the money i think it's just that they want to just hold a second to wait to see just exactly what's happening i think that you know come november we're going to be seeing

like what the next four years are going to look like and i think that you know come november we're going to be seeing like what the next four years are going to look like and i think that that's that's actually huge um so are you saying that epic universe is that the biden's election causes epic universe and trump's election but that's actually exactly what i'm saying and this is intel that i have is that if you vote for biden epic universe will happen and if you vote for trump it won't so um if that's keeping you undecided on the couch if that's gonna get you undecided off the couch then i'm happy to say it here every that's me i was leaning trump and but now we were all in very i care about especially all the florida voters i just insulted apologies um but if the epic universe comes i think they're willing to vote for biden

i hope so i hope that's enough but you know they think they're willing to vote for Biden. I hope so. I hope that's enough. But, you know, they're like almost done with the one in Hollywood. Like they've constructed the entire Mario Kart ride building. And they're pretty much like hard at work at the rest of the framing of the steel framing of the rest of the land but i think that um you know just around the corner here at universal studios hollywood we have a pretty decently uh finished mario kart ride so i think we will at least get to do that within the next two years i i have also heard that with the park being closed they are finally getting around to fixing the last scenes of the jurassic world ride like oh that's putting in

almost 100 done yeah all the full like the full kit and caboodle that they kind of like rush through what were y'all's thoughts on the jurassic world revamp when you did it um we we basically i will i'll speak for myself there's some cool cool stuff, but it's like missing pieces. There's long stretches where nothing kind of happens. I like the tank thing fine, but is it better than the glory and majesty of Jurassic Park from the old ride? I don't think it is. I'm surprised how much I liked it. And some of it replaces, you're right, that goes away, but it replaces just some perfunctory here's where we turn around so i think that part is a plus up but

then after that yeah it feels like there are less dinosaurs which is in no scenario a good thing and there and like supposedly from like hopefully the redo fixes it because i do kind of like this weird like habitat they have going now at the top of the lift hill but it's like the b mode supposedly where it's just like what is the what's that crazy dinosaur's name i don't even remember the indominus indominus rex is that right i think it is the big bad villain dinosaur and these yeah the irex and indominus rex okay yeah uh i loved i loved the new scene i will say like the the they really modernized it to jurassic world i felt like when you come over and there's like the park map and um you go around and then of course it is screens

which sucks and i feel like we need to lay off the screens which we've we've said um but for me it's like at least there was like i liked that we specifically visited a scene from the movie which is with that huge underwater dinosaur and the water effect i thought was cool and um anything that gets that fucking brontosaurus or whatever that said that had been there out of here that because the thing barely works and moves i thought it was so lame slowly falling over the skin it just was so so bad and i'm now realizing i i've said the f curse a couple times and i know we have a parent that listens that doesn't like that so i'm gonna refrain i don't i think at this point a lot of them listen and sorry sorry folks at least we're working you know mine that's the benefit of parents who

still have burner cell phones is uh they'll never listen to you say fuck on a podcast well i'll be cognizant of it either way but yes i was really happy they got that fucking brontosaurus out fuck yeah i'd actually never i never thought about this part i don't think i know the brontosaurus well enough i didn't know it needed to be shot and put out of its misery. It was really bad. It was like so... If that's going to be the way you set the tone for the ride,

then it's a huge failure. Because now it's like the one in Orlando, the Jurassic Park River Adventure, I have to do it at night because you can't see the fucking steel framing around it, which is so shitty and you also can't you notice less that it's like so such a warm piece of mechanics like and then of course it is like but my inner child wants to at least try to pretend that it's real and i don't want to have

to be on a pound and a half of edibles for that to be real which i am anyway but yeah well that's the real thrill ride taking a pound a half of edibles to the state of florida so bingo uh i think it's i do think jurassic world is like one extra little dinosaur show scene and then a really cool finale away from being like like yeah in my mind which i think we might get i mean the thing is that i think is a real bummer is that they really seem to do nothing with um the scene that they've turned into the indominus rex cage when you first enter the raptor containment area like what they've done with that is like they've made no choices like now i see they've added like that sphere that the the boys travel in in the movie they've added like that sphere that the the boys travel

in in the movie they've added like a broken sphere to that section like the gyrosphere but um there's no story happening there you just know you i guess you that's when you find out that something's gone wrong but there should be something happening there should be dinosaurs there we're middle for sure you get wall blood you get some nice wall blood if that does anything for you which it doesn't no not so much i'd rather see a robot yes or to see the blood getting splashed or may are produced in the moment the leaked photos of the original concept was the two dinosaur heads like budding heads almost at the end of it as opposed to one just kind of like like like a peeping tom in the bushes overlooking at the t-rex

yeah i think we will get something closer to the concept art um but when i was there which was during halloween horror nights actually like it wasn't even the indominus rex's head they covered it up so it was literally just the t-rex doing what it always has done and i was like disappointed but for me it's just like if you're working to get the finished product tox doing what it always has done and i was like disappointed but for me it's just like if you're working to get the finished product to the place where it needs to be whatever i'll come back i have a season pass to that place sure um i i will say i'll transition to the topic i was thinking about okay there's two versions of this mummy ride one in hollywood one in florida we know the florida one's better but i almost feel bad now I'm so hurting for going to these theme parks that I feel bad that I have such a negative feeling toward the mummy out here.

And I feel like once it's back open, I will never forsake it again. I want to go on this bad version, the Chili's 2 version of the mummy ride so bad. I get what you're saying, i just know i cannot second that i yeah the ride doesn't have feelings don't worry but if you this is one of my theme park grievances like i when the mummy ride opened in florida i i was so into it and matt i'm so happy to hear your enthusiasm for this ride because i was going like am i looking at this through rose colored glasses and then when we wrote it last fall i was like oh no this is still great this is still so fun especially in 2004 it was like such a a leap ahead and it's aged so well

it holds up yeah and and i think shows like what could have, if the ownership of the park had stabilized a little sooner, like, oh, if the mummy had been the early adopter, the standard, like, the screen in that is pretty small, like, pretty minor. That still looks good. That looks better than, like, Transformers and Fast and Furious, like, that one little screen. Likeers and Fast and Furious. Like that little, one little screen, like,

but the rest is practical. Yeah. I mean, Fast and Furious, we don't talk about. I know, but we haven't gotten there yet. It's literally such an embarrassment.

It's a bummer. I was the only one who read it and I have, I've just been sitting on the notes of like, just bumming everyone out. Yeah. We don't want to do this sad gray episode it's it's so long and so bad and it's just there's really very little good about it um but anyway i am a transformers stan and protector like i i think it's pretty fucking great but um yes

but but with the mummy it's like and first of all like something i want to say is this is the first ride first major e-ticket theme park ride that i was like fully following the progress of online even as a kid i think i was in my early teens yeah 2004 so i was probably 12 13 when they announced this um and i remember them describing it as a psychological thrill ride like they had never done before like they were using all these terms i was really interested in it was like we're gonna play with all your senses and it's gonna be a high-speed roller coaster and i remember thinking this will be really cool if they can pull this off and the fact that they

even came close to what they were describing is pretty unbelievable and like you said in 2004 when this opened like there wasn't shit like this there just wasn't so you know i think that if there's one thing that maybe doesn't hold up about it it's the fact that it's like the brendan frazier mummy like you know what i mean like that like property i don't think is something that's like evergreen but the ride itself is evergreen and it was so ambitious from the beginning and it was it's fun to ride every single time yeah would you give any points to probably not the la one i learned a little about the singapore one which seems like sort of a blend it's missing elements from florida but it uh does not have the we're making a movie or the

brendan fraser of it all did that um do you think uh are those other versions superior at all because they're lacking the little we're making a film with brendan you know i don't think the story fully tracks on the orlando one like i think that it's a little confusing to go from we're on a set to all of a sudden we're in the in the world like i just think they could have like you said like i think we could have committed to being in the world from the top it's like meta in a way that i don't think it needs to be um but ultimately if you're able to follow the narrative through the queue, then it does make sense. But who's doing that?

You know what I mean? Like, now it doesn't really draw huge lines at all. And so you're moving right through the queue. And I always have the express pass. So it's like you're moving, you're breezing through the queue to the point where you skip all of that narrative stuff with Brendan's character and, the, the PA that then dies during the ride. It's like, you don't know who that is. So when you're just going right through and you're already in the ancient

Egypt section, like you miss all of that. Whereas I do think if I'm going to give one prop to the Hollywood version, it's just, we're in the world of the mummy. You know what I mean? Like, this is

what it's not too complicated it's easily accessible you don't need and you don't need it to be i i went on in 2019 not not knowing any of that i knew there was like that beat in the middle where the way you think the ride started but i didn't know the story or reggie i had no idea about reggie the assistant production assistantgie, the assistant production assistant. Oh, the assistant. Yes. But I did the single writer. I think we all might have. So I literally had no idea what was

happening when there was a red hat on a mummy. I truly just literally didn't even see that. I think that is an issue. They need to represent that somehow, even in the single writer. it's not how that's supposed to be so under all that like mummy bondage stuff that he's got on is like an actual human animatronic but um the effect of like when emotep blows the smoke or

like sucks the life out of him like him going back to mummification like that was like too much and also that ammo tap uh animatronic barely works so much about that ride is like um just working in like a beta function oh really wait i didn't know any of it was so they wrapped it up as a way to get around that they didn't make a perfect reggie like no it was just the effect of the mummification happening was too precarious it was just like not working wow i think this is true i'm almost positive this is true but it's not like a supposed to be a mummy animatronic it's supposed to be a reggie animatronic that then gets like turned into that yeah it just was this technology just wasn't there yet for it to look good and run like every 30 seconds yeah and in the hollywood

version a mummy was supposed to jump on the car oh whoa really i didn't know that yeah yeah yeah and then they had to cut they had to cut so it was like a hydraulic thing it was like the mummy was gonna hop onto the car and then pull back um i forget it's like in the beginning of the ride it's like so short that who even knows what what that means but they had so many plans for what they were going to do that they ended up landing they reached for the moon and landed on a star let's just say that i mean yeah they got pretty close there's so many impressive things especially for what this is 2004 yeah like crazy stuff that you wouldn't expect because like 2004 was a long time ago like rise of the resistance is 16 years later and maybe in rise of the resistance era they could if they built this new in 2020 maybe

they'd get everything right yeah right the singapore one uh built in 2010 cost half as much as the hollywood and florida ones and it doesn't have like the fake out see it has a scene it doesn't have the fake out loading scene but it has an extra um imhotep there and the book of the living which i guess it was their version is much clearer story-wise and it's as long as the florida one and somehow it cost half as much i don't know how they did that but the queue and building look incredibly detailed i think probably because they made it so long after the original rides like there's a lot about like a lot of the money that they spend goes to like sets that they have to originally create so that's why you see like a lot of carbon

copies like that's why transformers is the same exactly the same in so many different universal parks and the same thing is going to be true with mario kart like they're going to be and harry potter for what it's worth the entire land is just like copy pasted because it's so much cheaper so maybe that went into how much cheaper the singapore mummy is because they could essentially just recreate a lot of it without without it being exactly the same maybe um how do we even get into that i mean we've sort of said it but the the basic idea of the florida one is that you are on the set of not the mummy returns but a different mummy sequel revenge of the mummy revenge of the mummy you are not on the set of the mummy tomb of the dragon emperor the third in the steven summers mummy series and and the

tone of the videos is very much like christopher guest light maybe like yeah kind of that vibe of like we're just having a it's a little jokey there's some quirky characters yes like a mockumentary yeah yeah which i mean probably took a long time to shoot and now it's like people are just walking right by it's like you really booked brendan frazier for this like fucking what's her name rachel vice was like i'm not doing that she's not present i get nothing from this it's like then the movies the mummy movies are like kind of light. I don't know. Were they thinking like these videos would balance out the dark? Because the ride is very dark. It's a very scary ride.

The queue is really dark, too. You can't see shit. Yeah. So were they thinking like, oh, we'll do this whimsical, this fun little light pre-show to balance? Like, it is curious to me why they would go completely that tone of like, we're just goofing around. Well, you have to remember they're obsessed with how things are made so maybe they maybe they felt this was like a subversion on that like it's around that area of the park where at the time they did have like you know earthquake which then became disaster righted out which is so there is like there's something to be said about them potentially making a comment on the way their

other attractions work so it's like see behind the scenes props from the movie etc and then there's a twist you know because this this ride at the time was really them saying we're changing the way we do things and that's where i think it gets like a little heady is they were commenting on the type of universal ride that they've always done right this is maybe that is this the last one like big ride they made where they had to sort of put in like how the movies are made perhaps i mean it seems like they really lost that after this right but and and this and again this wasn't even that i think it was like truly a transition out of that right because now it's like there's none of that in the park anymore because simpsons opens a couple years after this like four years

later and that really isn't how the simpsons are made or anything no it's just we're in the world of the simpsons which is what it should be i mean i think that's great like harry potter is just like welcome to the wizarding world which i think is what it should be and i think you know that's what islands of adventure does so well is it's like we're transporting you into worlds whereas universal studios used to be ride the movies and there was like a bts element to it which they've really left behind i think so they can capitalize on just getting into the ip and there was like a bts element to it which they've really left behind i think so they can capitalize on just getting into the ip and the most successful of the early rides i think easily was back to the future which never had any behind the scenes component like they should have

learned then jaws as well jaws as well i mean like it was just this was your encounter with jaws and back to the future was back to the future was so fun because you really felt like you were gonna you were doing that you know like back in the day back to future that was like i mean truly chef's kiss and you know terminator for the same reason like i really enjoyed that when i when it first came out years ago i was like this felt like a really specific only universal could do it this this um very perfectly fits with the ip um would any listener be upset if we just we've done a lot of these attractions can we just do terminator and back of the future again because we just and make no new observations or new twists

i just want to talk about them again i keep thinking about like i know there's stuff in my notes we never got to on like who cares let's just say all the same shit i mean how many times has doughboys gone to burger king at this point let's be real um uh shots fired yeah fuck you doughboys spoons fired no but i mean people wanna you know they got we got it jason you hate dough boys okay all right um you're gonna do you've always just pretended to like them we know the last of the three of us to do the show we get the axe to grind wait you guys haven't done the mummy yet well no we have no this is the first right now no

we god i can't believe it took you guys this long to do the mummy. You guys have been doing this podcast for so long. Oh, there's giant ones we haven't done. There's glaringly obvious ones we haven't done. God, what an honor to be the person that's the mummy. And I've had it earmarked for you. I was like, well, we got to have Matt back on for the mummy. And we've talked about it a bunch. Because what did we do the first time?

Twister ride it out. Twister. Wow. Yes, yes, yes yes yes yes yes no wait a minute did you just say disaster but say disaster ride it out because i was like i love it i messed up i messed up what was the disaster subtitle disaster a major exclamation point a major picture starring you so stupid i think so um but since you mentioned terminator and we talked about jaws i think mummy might be the last of universal's uh chip on its shoulder of like we're not disney we're a little more cutting we're a little edgier because like the um yeah the ride itself gets very dark but those cue lines are uh pretty sarcastic the cue video is pretty sarcastic a little mean like every everyone kind of like dumps on reggie a lot i think

they're they're not killing people in pre-shows and rides anymore you know what i mean like i used to watch kimberly duncan get choked out by the terminator and they they they they like literally to death and like they've pulled off that i remember the one time i i went back like in later years when terminator was like happening the terminator came up out of the stage and kimberly duncan just goes i'm going to get security and walks off and i'm like oh enough people complained about watching a woman get killed get killed uh six times a day yeah wow interesting but but like with this ride it's like you know reggie dies he dies yeah he eats so really painfully uh there there is one very funny shot because some of the

youtube ride throughs um got capture some of the pre-show videos and there's one very funny shot where he's just like crouched on the ground wiping up a spill with paper towels and as someone who did a fair amount of pa work uh when i was younger that i found very relatable and very funny because he looks so shitty and uncomfortable they used to really be unconcerned about like optics on that stuff they were just like we're universal and we're setting ourselves apart and all these rides are rated pg-13 the rides used to literally have ratings um i remember that like it was like like in the park map it'd be like terminator 2 is pg-13 um which i thought was kind of cool you know yeah but um and obviously like halloween horror nights was like a rated r experience because that's like so brutal and like so

that's what are so insane all of that yeah so it's just like that's their that's their version of that but it does seem like they are only interested in pushing the envelope in that regard now with humor ish yeah right like i couldn't i'll say this like i think i might have even said this on the podcast last time but when i went to halloween horror nights a few years ago like i saw the bill and ted show and it was right before the election it was so dark and it was it was so rough to be there in florida like and listen what they do then what was they cared for trump a lot and like there's like someone playing trump and there was someone playing hillary and like whenever hillary come out it was just like

honestly i should have known what was going to happen because it was just groans and boos and like at her very image which i'm sure would happen now like they have like a biden or a kamala i shuddered to think what the reaction would be um but shockingly like biden comes out and they'd shoot yeah voice of reason yeah i mean like right but i just i have such a fear of what the actual mentality is there um because i was literally there and saw it and then the election was weeks later and obviously it went the way it went but um i think like if they're willing to do that then again it was halloween horror nights like at least there is like they have the spirit of that in them like they'll they'll go for it but we haven't seen it in the actual rides probably because they're like always gonna

be there and they have to commit to the murder of someone whereas like in a seasonal show it's like yeah we can kind of make a joke here and there we might not ordinarily do pull it pretend it never happened you didn't see also there's a there's a murder of a woman in revenge of the mummy too like that ride operator gets gutted and her blood splashes on you yeah that's true wait is there literally yes yes it's a water effect or i always oh i don't remember that i always thought it was the broken glass i always thought it was simulating with glass breaking to me it's like woman dies you get splashed like that to me feels like the the insinuation is supposed to be that it's blood okay would it be glass and blood it could be both okay i have a thing about um both of those specific iterations of Imhotep.

Is it weird that I find Imhotep cute? Like the way he, the way he moves, he's just like a little weird demo. Like the way his arm catches Reggie, he's just so like little. And what does it remind me of? I like,

I don't know. Like if you, if you take a villain and like shrink him down it's the opposite of my big stuff problem he just seems like he's like he's only like four foot five is his movements are so like um just little and jerky emotep has girl boss diva energy i mean basically emotep just put his hand up in in reggie's face and sucked his soul out and it was not even a thing honey he came through kills you you you he says your souls are mine death is only the beginning girl he is turning iconic lines in the ride death is only the beginning talk dirty to me dad like it's so just erotic the wood the power that that has we have no choice but to stand

oh we have no we had no choice join me and uh savor riches savor riches for all eternity yeah or refuse and savor a more bitter treasure savor yeah there's he has a power doesn't he oh yeah hon i mean like we're talking about um and then what does he say um when you when you fall back after the scarab beetles he's like um nothing not even the magi can save you now i was like oh yes damn i'm about to get taken care absolutely of and then they shoot you shoot through his mouth it's very sexual the ride yeah serve me and savor yeah these are all very these are uh they're sexual verbs aren't they scott when you say cute were you just being like a little bit like you were bearing the lead that you also were kind of getting a little worked up by this guy it was less no i think it was less i was thinking cute more like a pet. Like he just seems like, you know,

the energy of a big dog, but he's little and he tries to act tough. That's what I was thinking, but I'm all for the ravaging aspect as well. You weren't erotically interested. Not then, but after your description, that changes everything. I got a lot of thinking to do.

Launch queen. I'm not taking the queen part out. That's everything. I got a lot of thinking to do. Launch Queen. I'm not taking the Queen part out. That's staying. Just the no left. That's all. Nope. He is, you know, he's an underrated character, I feel like, just in general. Like, we all talk about the, obviously, IP characters.

You know, you're Vin Diesel on what's Dom, you know? But this is a character that's not so famous that deserves a lot more attention you know like rex star tours or uh any of the other like in theme park characters well yeah mike you're in you're talking to us from a shelf uh full of park stars you know and the little you know characters dolls of characters are only in disney parks there's no such thing at universal they're they're much lighter on the merch and worshiping characters not i mean imiteps in the movies too but yeah there should absolutely be the the toy of rex or the rexus this is i'm holding up smart one uh perk star he's very cute but there should be an imotep

cute little vinyl figure you can get. That's with my proportions thing, me calling him cute. It'd be the most adorable, like, two-inch tall little guy. And they could sell a sexy one and just kind of a cute one as well. Like, they could do a full one where he has full, like, male anatomy. And then they could do one where he's, like, a little short, stout vinyl or he's like just gotten the pecs off of one of the bodies that he's um you know stolen parts from i half watched the brendan fraser mummy the other night i sort of understand they have i mean i'm a toy collector i have you know i have these cute vinylmations but i also have what's called hot toys and they are about their one sixth scale they're a little expensive and i

have an adam west that is fully like a man he's a fully little man they call it a hot toy that's the brand it's called hot toys that's not a joke whoa just the brand and they make a lot of uh you know one sixth scale toys that are realistic proportions and they're very cool, very dynamic and I feel like let's get one of these with Imhotep. Who's on your shelf? Who's on your Parkstar's shelf who you'd like to see a little more fleshed out, like done a little more Hot Toys style?

Well, certainly I would like a full Mark Twain Hot Toy. Buff Mark Twain? That's really good uh let's see here uh i also think that uh

well a famous performer wally bogue oh the star of the golden horseshoe wow you do collect toys yeah oh my god this isn't even the half of it i bet uh so yeah there's other i mean maybe a full hunk mr potato head doll carved up you sort of like yeah like you know slice those sides up a

little bit crunch them in and uh yeah he's looking good totally but oh one last one. Adventurers Club. Oh, yes. The general. The general. Or the major. Cute. A lot of possibilities here. A lot of possibilities for merch. Yeah, but give us our Universal Park stars for sure.

Why don't they have a brand like that? They do. We all do, but no one buys them. Well, I got my dad. They had a John Hammond one. I got him that when we were down in florida it was so hard to find i saw it at one and i had to keep going back to stores because the stock was so inconsistent but it's mostly like that was the main good one the rest was like woody woodpecker and then a faceless creature with like a film strip for a face

that just said universal orlando who is that it was nothing it was strippy i've never heard a strippy before it was like uh nothing but yeah i they should definitely make an imhotep vinyl guy i mean i i am of the mind that universal should make a another brendan frazier they should just do another one you're a big fan i think jason i think these movies i think especially like you were born yes uh i think it's they're the they're the perfect like saturday afternoon on tnt uh movies and i also think that we're due for a fraser songs like i think brendan fraser needs to have his bird man or the unexpected virtue of ignorance like where is brendan fraser's big prestige movie you know i forget he was in

crash oh yeah okay that's true the best picture and what we all agree it was the best picture i mean of the decade really unquestionably the country forward you know had a lot to say the problems we're having now are just because everybody forgot about crash everyone watching it now certainly wouldn't make things way worse i've never said i literally don't know what's contained in the movie crash it's a bad movie it's a mess so i've heard bad irresponsibly written movie and won the oscar for bestologist for sure best picture yes for sure it beat brokeback mountain oh yeah and that was like a shock at the time i think very much so yeah that was like

because one was a very good movie and one was bad yeah i remember this now so it really it sent shockwaves through the industry but not really because the industry is on the whole bike sure of course um so hold on where was i i just have pictures of imatep up here now oh wow we're talking about his his sex appeal slash cuteness right yeah um yeah it is i almost like forget because he's obviously not featured enough in hollywood so i sort of forget him he's he's he's featured but it's just not in like the animatronic is so good in florida and his presence is kind of he does he drop does he drop from the ceiling i'm actually confused no no that's hollywood yeah but i'm saying what did what is he featured he's his head is featured but you go through his mouth in the launch and also he's in the beginning of the ride and you know like i guess his like visage is like present throughout the roller coaster parts and

like um you know i guess you're you're sort of teased at the end like he's not really dead right is he yeah haunts brendan frazier when he gets his cup of coffee um what do we think of that part what's everybody's opinion about the the brendan frazier coffee gig i mean again if you didn't know that he was wanting coffee in the pre-show that means nothing to you and so like it's gotta literally mean nothing to i'm gonna go ahead and say 95 of the people that ride it and on any given day it's very much a piece of the men in black the fake world's fairer bookends of the ride yeah which you really miss if you do because they didn't really think about the Express Pass as much back then when designing stuff,

that there would be separate lines. So you could go to Men in Black, totally skip the setup, and just go right into the headquarters. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of an odd ending, and I guess with that, we should say, you survived Pug S. Ride, that's the end of...

Wrong! Prepare to forfeit your afternoon. Our one is only the beginning. I it's the best. I mean, it's the fake out ending of the ride in 2004. It's good now. In 2004, it was mind blowing. And I mean, we also have to say, say like that's the part with the roof on fire

which is like the ceiling rather that's amazing i mean like that holds up so much it's so impressive it's so hot like and i miss them doing fire effects obviously i don't think probably for environmental reasons they're not doing it all the time but that to me is such a strength of the ride and it makes me so reminiscent of the days of jaws when that tanker would explode that's all the universal there were so many in both hollywood and orlando so many opportunities to feel uncomfortably hot to be real close to real flame a lot of gas smells i associate universal with the smell of real gas they've've replaced, I think, Theme Park, they've replaced maybe real fire with what we, I think, deemed steam fire.

Yeah. On the last one of the last episodes. We like steam fire. We decided that. And I think, I'm assuming, you know, safer, cheaper. So that's probably the way of the future. But yes, there is something, because like, nothing freaks your body out like a flame right yeah it

puts you in a sense of real danger it's like um like whenever i'm riding spider-man and they decide not to do that effect with the fire when the green goblin throws the ball i'm always like bummed because i i i know what it's like to be doing that and then have that fire happen it's so unbelievably impressive right and and urgent yeah and they do the same thing on transformers right it's the same exact he shoots a missile yeah missile yeah and disney doesn't yeah disney's disney's track record with fire there's the fire on indiana jones but they don't really yeah you're not close to the flame shooting up on indiana jones fantastic canyon yeah yeah

yeah yeah which hasn't been there for years i mean like and like even like rise of the resistance like i just felt like something was missing with rise of the resistance when i did it i was so blown away by this like i i think it's so amazing what they were able to do but there was a sense of danger that was missing for me i think i said that i felt like the ride vehicle uh like indiana jones the ride vehicle shakes a lot and gives you that sense of i'm in danger the whole time and it's such a smooth ride it was so time yeah that until there's only a couple scenes where you feel like oh crap like when you're when those guns are going you're like a little bit like am i gonna crash into the gun but other than that you're not maybe experiencing like no yeah i respect what they were able to do

with it but i think like like those blasters firing off like i wasn't scared like i i just i felt like um maybe this is because i'm 30 but um you know, and I'm not doing this as a 12-year-old, but I just felt like I think it is primarily exactly what you're saying. The motion of the vehicle did not make me feel like there was enough chaos. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, because I think that was a big when they were doing Indiana Jones trying to figure out how the vehicle would like make you feel like you were really going through the thing and you were really going to like tip over at any moment and I think that might have been yeah that might have benefited

from it yeah a little a little goes a long way probably obviously it's like a cool ride vehicle and like it works I did the Pooh's Honey Hut in Japan which is the same ride and that's a much that's a more of a property maybe for a nice smooth ride. Sure.

I would agree. Yeah. So. And we like that. What do we think of ride vehicles here? I mean, you can, we haven't talked about that a ton besides the launch.

It is a cool, I like that. It's this little like stout rollercoaster car and you feel it because it's not a big long train you feel like you're able to really whip around corners and i like the bluntness of the mummy vehicle uh yeah i read a really interesting thing i never knew about this um uh there was there's a theme park insider article from 2004 right before the hollywood uh one opened and the ride vehicles weigh themselves at the loading station so that it can like compensate for the weight of the vehicle throughout the ride so like

they joke like if it's a raw a car full of like football players versus a car full of children like the ride can counterbalance that i never really knew that they used to do that with dueling dragons so that they could meet exactly at the same time oh yeah during the lift till they would get weighed and that's why one car would stop and one would um keep going to catch up to a certain place so that they they would know like once they started going they would meet up at the places where you're supposed to have near misses but that's a thing that they're able to do yeah these smart vehicles it's it's crazy seeing a role i mean i guess i'm trying to think how many seats does hulk have on one car is it the same as this

i think four row eight rows 32 uh-huh i don't if for whatever reason the vehicle seems like very impressive to be a crazy fast roller coaster and just be on like it looks like it's just on this piece of metal and there's so many seats on it this is four rows of four seats so it's 16 yeah yeah um i will say and this is mostly a hollywood situation and we i talked a little bit about it on the uh six flags episode this ride vehicle especially when i did it a couple times in florida because i'm kind of tall and because of the way the seat goes up it oftentimes can crush my genitals uh and i really have to make a conscious effort getting into it to adjust myself to not feel like

my penis is going inside my body i don't have penile issues on this but what i do think is like the way the seats are there you sit super upright and um it's it's a very hard back like it's not like a cushy back for your head so the scene where you go into the um scarab beetle section and then you roll it backwards when you pull up to the scare of beetles it stops so short so hard yeah and it really hard and it does the same thing in the fake unload it stops really hard and you you hit you you really have to be careful there to not hit the back of your head and so that's the one thing i do say to people that um i'm doing the ride with for the first time i'm like hey for this part just like lean forward a little bit. Because if your head's back,

you're going to go. Yeah. There are little things like that that I think I'm okay on it now, but I remember the first time I went on it and it was, I think that head, the head thing too, and how hard the chair is, I think I had all the mistakes

happen to me the first couple times on it. Well, can I say what the mistakes happen to me the first couple times on it. Well, can I say what happened in Hollywood to me? And really, I think why I misjudged the whole franchise. I think for a long time, I didn't know how much better Florida was. And I was highly anticipating this in 2004. And I think I just got thrown by seeing one article that hyped it up too much. There was some art, it might have been LA Times or something that said, this is Universal's answer to the Indiana Jones adventure, or maybe even that they were going to top it.

So I'm getting on that Hollywood mummy with that expectation. I'm about to go on something that is better potentially than the indiana jones adventure and as we know not even close it's not even close to the florida mummy itself so i i've kind of always scorned and and at the time i was a no lunch queen so all of that factored into me just not going on this ride in in hollywood for many many years um it it's crazy to think about uh because the hollywood version opened like a month after the orlando one which i don't think i ever really knew they cost the same amount of money one is much shorter i would say very compromised the same summer the compromised tower of terror opens a california adventure so that was just the summer of abridged rides in southern california i of loser west coast cousins i i when i first came out here and i i think i had just been

at universal orlando and then a month or so later was at universal hollywood and rode the mummy and i was like what the fuck was that like i was so confused because i will i'll grant that it's simpler story-wise but i don't think they ever did a good job communicating the story in the queue or the story especially the ending was always so janky and then i read so abrupt it's it just ends it just ends and then i read this i found this article from 16 years ago and they had a fully fleshed out backstory it made so much more sense to me and i'm like how did you get how did you mess this up like i don't i it's just a mind-boggling just to like play devil's advocate on the ending of the hollywood version because the first time i did it it did just end

and i'm so used to the hollywood the florida version which um so commits to completing its narrative yeah as we've discussed but the thing about it is like there is something about the fact that it just ends um on like imhotep's laugh and like the eclipse like that makes that is like an eerie ending you know what i mean it's like you almost believe that you've been a part of like the re-release of him into the world so that to me i think works for me if i take a second to justify it but i mean flat out it does just end and then all of a sudden you're in the load station and it feels like well did that just happen but i do think that thematically and narratively it does keep its integrity well because it's like the eclipse is bringing him back it's giving him the power and then the eclipse

ends and then he like disappeared like the he loses his power is is what i saw and so like that kind of makes sense but like i just i don't i don't think they did a great job setting it up and a few years ago they did tweak it a little but it's like well that didn't really add anything it was a real lateral move wait i thought the eclipse killed him i thought that's always happening i i i didn't take it as that or maybe it did i don't know i it's been a it's been a bit none of us know i mean that's not a good sign what does an eclipse do to imhotep i've also done the one in florida i think upwards of like probably over 50 times and i've done the one in hollywood like three or four yeah is it do you like actively avoid it have you been in that park and gone now

it's not i'm only recently living in los angeles so it's like i've only been a couple times and then i'd only done it like once or twice before that like on vacations and stuff so i think it's not that i avoid it in fact that's actually my favorite part because i love them and i do enjoy the hollywood mummy i can accept that it's not the florida one like it's not bad i think it might even be the best thing down there because because jurassic world i haven't been able to see and like it's completely fleshed out state yet but that is my favorite section and especially when mario kart is done that area is going to be it's going to be all about the lower lot yeah yeah the area is gentrified with the existence of mario kart yeah i basically yeah

like i i really what i was saying earlier was i've been not able to go and i was not going to mummy i would skip mummy now and you know we take for granted things in our lives and now during quarantine i think all i was saying let this be a lesson always go on mummy it's a privilege even though it's the airport version of the orlando version i always feel like that though like i always do every ride because i never know when it's the airport version of the orlando version i always feel like that though like i always do every ride because i never know when it's going to be the last time like yeah i always will go on et when i'm there because i you never know when it's going to be the last time like it could be any day for example um with jaws like i didn't know the time that i

did it was the last time i had ever done it and i almost had the instinct to go to go down there and do it one more time because that was truly the end of an era but i always make sure that i did it was the last time i had ever done it and i almost had the instinct to go to go down there and do it one more time because that was truly the end of an era but i always make sure that i have logged hours on these things in case they're gonna go away like i always do poseidon's fury because i feel like its days are numbered yes um i i just always want to like have it fresh in my memory and and you know the the one that that we talked about this last time I was on but Twister you know I would do it every single time I was there because I just knew they couldn't rely

on that movie in the long term because it wasn't like it's not one that you remember forever like Jaws or Back to the Future or you know whatever but I genuinely miss yeah Waterworld which they're dying on the hill of every single day it seems to work i don't know i don't think it's a full water world area somewhere

yeah it's huge it's strange i think they thought about doing a new movie based off the success of the stunt show oh is that right no they have i know i i'm i'm asking you're proposing they should yeah yeah yeah you know what i think that if they would have success know i i'm i'm asking you're proposing they should yeah yeah you know what i think that if they would have success with like a water world netflix movie i think that's a perfect yeah yeah reboot for it on streaming i think would be really good for that franchise because i think people just ultimately didn't want to pay to go see that movie in theaters but now if you could just sit on your couch and watch that i think people would and and probably decrease the urine drinking element maybe give a little less percentage of that of the the running time to urine drinking yeah lean on the action adventure of it all unless

on the survivalist aspect i think you'd have something good and also like you could bring back the costner character as like a uh you know like a mentor for someone or and you know that it's not like but that is also a depressing topic like our world is covered in water because of that stuff that might hurt it yeah people don't want to let's go let's go into a world of water for a while let's reboot the postman instead i do keep saying i keep saying postman memes really i mean but i keep seeing people posting about the postman and the like the furor of the say the post office yeah oh right right of course uh i i didn't realize tom petty i think we've talked about it before tom petty is in the postman oh right okay yeah so uh i don't know i just like that that's just a good thing about it you know what's another thing

i realized factoring into my dislike of the hollywood version that is something that the florida one doesn't have on its back is that the hollywood one is the one that evicted our beloved et that's like a stink it doesn't have to have anywhere else and so you're going to do a lesser version of a really truncated thrill ride where there used to be a kind of significantly long, dark ride. It just didn't seem like an improvement to me. I just always felt hurt by the E.T. eviction. Well, of course. And was E.T.

Forgive me. Was the E.T. Did the building outside look the same? Like it was just a soundstage? Yeah, yeah. Barely themed. Yes. Okay. did the building outside look the same like it was just a sound stage yeah yeah yeah barely themed yes okay because i think like if they really went the extra mile with the exterior of mummy maybe you could have been like well at least it like it's it's visually better now than it was before

it looked just sort of like a boring sound stage but they didn't do that so it just looks like you're going into a sound stage they just painted it beige is all they did or orange-ish i don't know what the color is and i'm sure look all this stuff all this stuff is what the universal creative people wanted i'm sure they wanted a theme and it's just a money situation i always i don't know why i feel like there's universal creative people listening going we tried shut up it's also like space there's no space down there there's no space that's ultimately why the ride is not great or not not what we're used to in florida because it's just they didn't have the space like and also remember it's like et can be a long dark ride because you can move slowly like in a high

speed thrill ride you got to move through this building and there's just not the room so that is something that you run into when you are gonna say let's you know shoot for the moon here with only so much room right like whereas you know like that's why you can fit something like transformers with just two levels and it can feel so big like when you because when you compare like what transformers feels like to what the mummy is and what jurassic world feels like to what the mummy is um well i'm nervous about mario kart for this reason for that like is that going to be enough space down there i'm not because that built the building that they the thing is they had to fill an existing space with the et becoming

mummy with mario kart they created a gigantic soundstage which also uses two levels so it's not gonna be a concern i think that's gonna be this it's the exact same size basically the ride is not the land i think the land is gonna be smaller than the one in japan but the ride is small well the land doesn't the land is not gonna have yoshi right it's not gonna have like the yoshi omn type ride. Right. So you've been seeing those. It's only going to be the one ride in Hollywood. Have you been seeing those, like what people can see over the fences in Japan, the Yoshis and the coins and the plants? Oh my God.

It looks cool. It looks really cool. I'm excited to see it when it's totally done with the Donkey Kong of it all. Yeah. But, you know, the Yoshi ride, it doesn't look like it's for me but i think it for the people that it'll be for aka kids i think it'll be really fun

the mario kart ride i'm really excited to see what it's going to be because they're talking a huge game like about this one too almost reminding me of the way they talked about the mummy before it opened like they're saying it's going to be like unlike anything they've seen like the state of the art like now new gold standard of theme park attractions and so i guess i would say like they talked about that with mummy they talked about that with harry potter the forbidden journey anyway and then they're talking about that again now with mario kart and i feel like they were right the first two times so yeah yeah i think it's the main thing we all have to look forward to in our lives is the mario kart this is like

for me it's the jurassic coaster but is the mario kart this is like for me it's the jurassic coaster but yeah the mario kart thing is for sure close second yeah is one other thing about the hollywood ride that kind of set it apart when you would exit the hollywood ride there was a long hallway with statues of mummies and for a i don't know how long they did this but it happened to me multiple times. One of those mummies was a guy and he would jump down off his pedestal or like move around. Like it was a scare actor who would like swipe at you

and people always fell for it. Really? I mean, I love when they do shit like that. It's fun. Yeah, I appreciate it now. At the time, I didn't know it was coming and it scared the hell out of me. At the time when it was intended to be scary,

it did scare you in. It worked. Therefore, it was not a pleasant emotion. I'm impressed, but I am glad it is gone. Tony Baxter said that there was a period of time where they did that on Haunted Mansion. There was like a one actor in the hallway or something,

and he would just jump out in front of the car. I wonder if they still do that at skull Island. That was a big in the marketing for, for Kong skull Island is that there were going to be scare actors roaming the queue. Yeah. And there were the last time I, last time I did the main queue anyway

there was i like i said i'm always getting the express because i don't now that i've seen the things once i don't need to see them again and again in terms of the queue experience but there's a lot of cool stuff in the in the kong skull island queue and one of them was a very scary live actor yeah thanks i think i missed that when i i think i did the past last time yeah he would like poke out of holes like that were in the queue like it was like and he would just go you know it's just like a scary like problematic native yeah sure yeah uh that's i i will say i would have been scared but matt when you were last here i was not doing fright fests and horror nights but now i'm into haunts so that's happened too so i think i like the idea of that but i think

wow you got you guys you boys are growing up that is what is happening really are tell us we're good tell us we've done good you're doing so good you're doing such a great jobs and i'm so proud of you guys this is what i needed um yeah but jason have you bucked up and gotten over anything like that i think i've had some breakthroughs in therapy but other than that i think my theme park going hasn't really changed that much great okay well at least emotionally things are on the up you know i'm trying my best um what are we uh what have we missed here we were talking yeah we were talking about uh rise of the resistance scott trollbridge was the lead on this ride as well in addition to being the

lead on rise of the resistance genius whole galaxy's edge i stand i the only thing about galaxy's edge is i i think that that Millennium Falcon is a fucking flop. But Rise of the Resistance, he did an amazing job. I think it was hard for me to say or hear phrases like that at the time. And now, just as the months go on, I don't... You have to... It's a flop. It's okay. I don't know if I can even say it. It's still so hard.

I almost can't accept that something I was looking forward to so much is a flop maybe i don't know it was a real relief to hear you say it it was a really ambitious idea but it was not executed well we need new levels we need new places i don't want to do no more of these crates i don't want to crash into crates it also should just be you know what just give people the star wars that you know what i mean like we don't know this character like we don't really have a lot of time to get to know him the jobs for a lot of people in that cockpit the jobs are really stupid like if you happen to be in the last row and you're like what the engineer like it you it's so lame it i think gunner is worse than engineer though because gunner is just like what do we what am i even doing here and i have to work very hard it's hard to see

you know what i mean like it's just like visually not uh appealing the worlds don't seem super different from each other at the end something i really hate is when you you stop the ride and he says it appears there's something you've brought back with you on the ship and then and then it's nothing and then you don't even see anything nothing happens it's just like blue balls the entire time there's nothing in the queue it's not interesting to look at it's there's no characters that we enjoy or appreciate and for that to be the lead of the entire land that was launching the land it was really really really whack and then thank god the rise of the resistance kind of capitalized on all the promise because it

really tied the land together in every way which it needed um because the millennium or no sorry millennium falcon ride was um i yes i feel like though i do feel like it may be not impossible to at least take it up a letter grade i do think yeah you could probably make some tweaks and it won't be perfect but it will maybe be a more consistent experience because because and we don't need to get off i think we've said this before like star tours has moments that you remember there's drama there's like there's something happening there's a compelling reason for you to be there you're in a giant monster's mouth and you remember it getting off the ride that was crazy the tongue hit the windshield there's like comedy in it like star wars is a wacky kids adventure movie like let's not forget what star wars is which is their sci-fi action adventure soap operas for kids so why are we

taking ourselves so fucking seriously with this millennium falcon ride like it just feels like not fun yeah yeah that might be a lot of the rex appeal for me is that rex is a pure comedy character and it's not ponderous like uh some of the the elements of star wars i vibe with less but it's also like the scoring of it all what like to compare to what you know what i mean like i don't know what this what this score means they never tell you what's a good score absolutely what did i do correctly you know what i mean like and what was it that got me this point score that did it and it's like you'd have to do it a bunch of times like i guess it's like the men in black of it all yeah but i get the men in black of it all because you've told me how to shoot these aliens i know

what i'm doing i'm killing aliens i know what happens at the end because you get like galaxy defender cosmic whatever blah blah, blah, blah. On this, it's like they put a number in front of you in a weird font and then you leave. And like there's the one cool touch of like the Millennium Falcon is obviously beat up and like technically failing as you leave. But other than that, it's like this was really garbage. Like because I don't understand what's happening. Menabax is simple simple hit the red button riptorn screams that you hit the red button like you could simplify um the millennium falcon down to everyone hits a button once and then everyone gets it is satisfying to touch the buttons yeah if you have to dumb it down for me a i think kind

of smart 30 year old who's invested in theme parks and this ip what the fuck is anyone else getting from it you know what i mean i'm just like who is leaving that park saying a highlight for me in disneyland was uh millennium falcon i don't think anyone a six-year-old flying like doing the actual flying and getting to go i guess i guess i think that's the probably the best thing you can do in it i mean i was spent a lot of time on batu last year and i rode this single rider with so many families and the confusion yeah every time grandma was i was always next to grandma on the engineer's seat and she did not know what was going on oh and it's like i think they had a like they had a meeting early on they were like well

everybody's gonna be fighting to do something in the cockpit false not true that is not gonna happen like what what does happen is like your experiences are dictated by what everyone else does and it's like if you're in there with like another family of three if you're like in a three and you get up with another three it's like that's like conflict yes and i don't want to i don't want to deal with conflict with people that are like at walt disney world hollywood studios like i really don't you're like at a thanksgiving dinner of people you don't know who are having a real rough year. The ball dropped completely.

Completely. Boy. Boy. Yeah, I was. There were kids. I was trying to gun effectively, and there were kids just driving the Falcon into the dirt. Yeah, because, again, they have no incentive to not. Yeah.

Anyway. Boy. I think it can be fixed slightly yeah like america right so well that's a different story i hate these video game rides like unless it's really clear like midway mania or um uh like um men in black i don't like i'm not super psyched about this spider-man thing that's gonna happen in california i don't i don't know why is why is it not just a ride i don't understand i don't care i don't need to be actively involved in it with a gun in my hands like i in fact i reject it just put me give me take me on the journey well we've said i or i've said i think i'm a little worried about the

new the new version of you are the thing that's apparently coming to Avengers because it's like you train you suit up and I'm like as a kid I wanted to be Iron Man but I don't want to be me as a superhero why are you making me do work yeah I don't

I've heard somebody claims that it's gonna be cool and you're gonna do this who's somebody who is that we have inside we have some insiders we've got our people too you know okay so what are they saying they said that it's gonna be very cool how the web when you do your little spider-man motion that it's gonna be very cool and it works really well when you're shooting webs at whatever the nanobots or whatever they are okay but i also think like do this for 30 seconds and go oh i'm a little tired yeah anybody with carpal tunnel i get so exhausted on midway mania i get

my wrist oh yeah it's like that thing when like the web part of your thumb and your your uh pointer finger start like stinging you know that yeah yes i it's and i like midway many a lot but i am by the end when you're doing the thing where you're supposed to when they're flying off the little mine cart section i am dead my my arm is dead yeah and in between scenes i get like okay gotta stretch gotta limber up uh do do like hand yoga here speaking of that area of the park like when i when i went at truly six in the morning um to do rise of the resistance speaking of that area of the park like when i when i went at truly six in the morning um to do rise of the resistance because i was one of those people that did i'm sure you guys were as well like yeah early early ass crack of dawn by myself um uh i was i

literally was in group 10 i i was like i went on right away but i had enough time to go do the slinky dog which also gets a crazy line and it wasn't one of my fast pass selections i liked it oh yeah yes fun it's really fun it's so charming a lot it is so charming it's so um you know it's not like it's thrilling but like it's fun there's so much scenery to go through that second launch i mean like it's really cute i love the spinning rings like i like that slinky dog you can hear him talk it felt like like again like a really good well executed idea and i'm not surprised that it's so popular so relaxing to be on like maybe the one of the smoothest roller coasters ever yeah definitely like in the same way big thunder is like i could see it being

like a scared nine-year-old who's tall enough will go on it and love it and it'll be yeah yeah so it's like it really the age range is high yeah it feels classic yeah yeah or or a uh you know 34 year olds was still one of his first launch coasters ever as it was at the time i got brave enough to do slinky dog can you believe it i mean we gotta get you on the jurassic coaster when it opens though that's that sounds great and i don't have to be afraid of these i used to when this podcast started i was like well we'd talk about a ride and i'd say but that's off limits to me because i cannot launch and i got over take off your shackles you gotta be brave enough to do this i mean this jurassic coaster

i think it's gonna be really good sounds really fantastic yeah yeah uh possibly uh do you do you think it could uh take the title from hagrid's as hagrid's took so you think i think it will i think it will wow yeah i don't think i've given it no thought it's been like a sleeper to me i i haven't been looking at the updates like you guys and so i'm amazed to hear it's like so what's great about hagrid's is it's like yes it has seven launches but it's a family coaster this is like an adult coaster which is themed to an adult um popcorn movie which i which i you know like the threat of dinosaurs ripping you to pieces like i like of course kids can enjoy it and like it but

i like it i like that they you know matched a type of ride to a type of film and i feel like that is universal you know what i mean like that is something that disney would never do like disney's never gonna make you feel like um you know a dinosaur's gonna kill you and in fact when they did do that they backed off of it and made that ride so much more tame like but but i was really respecting them for countdown to extinction because it was so chaotic and so rough and so dark and so scary that when they backed off of it i was like this is why and when they backed off alien encounter you know what i mean like just like they they they've like really um and maybe they're gonna go back to it now that they have like you know the ip that they have

and they're like so into that but i don't know i just felt like they were a little lame a little lame when universal wasn't and so i think that like i mean the fact that we're getting a launch into a top hat like that's great to me and that that inversion that's um right out of the top hat it's like a like a it's like a serious airtime like a corkscrew or whatever it looks really really really really really since you brought down can't down to extinction can i just get your eyes on something i'm gonna screen share here do you think that baby aladar is cute i think that's so cute yes i'll never win i'll never win yeah nothing invested in this bit this has been this fight has been going on all we've been

fighting about this i think it's so cute like if i saw it in my apartment i'd probably be like i'd kill it but i do think that it's so cute if i know now that i know what it is understandable scott i do appreciate you you bringing up something cute uh yeah of course immo tap the mummy yeah i appreciate you i don't know why i think he's cute in the window shatter too i like that he's like miniature so i think it's the fact that he's like a little he's a four he's like a miniature pony i think that's that's exactly how i feel about him can i give you a little a little uh piece of information about the animatronic yes universal claims imhotep is the most sophisticated animatronic robot ever developed this is obviously at the time for a theme park capable of lifting 2 500 pounds his arms are hollowed out stainless steel that can be programmed

to perform motions four times faster than any other theme park robot wow and that are six times which is why it's literally frozen in time not working because they probably bit off way more they could chew it doesn't matter that it can do any of those things that doesn't work so it's like that's the only thing about it is i do wish they could like go back in there and refurb the audio animatronics but i actually think they'll this is controversial but i think that they'll retheme and do a new attraction before they do that that's what i was gonna ask do you think um would you be upset about this or would you feel like i

it's had its time and i trust universal to bring us something better i think it has less than 10 years wow yeah yeah i could see them you know i think it could use a little fresh coat paint a facelift but i do think it's it's pretty popular, and I don't quite know. I mean, Fast and the Furious, a Fast and the Furious ride done like this, I think would have been a big hit. I think that they just fucked up with Fast and the Furious, and it was because they were trying to save money,

because they already had the Hollywood version of that. Well, the footage and sets, and yeah. Yeah, and I think that they were they got such a bad response to that which is i think what actually was the idea behind hagrid's is they were like we need something big that's practical that is gonna you know really give a classic energy because when the tonight show ride happened and the um fast and furious ride happened and they happened so close together it was just like what are we doing this for like you you carbon copied transformers from spider-man that that system already and you're now doing this with king kong

and fast and furious and you're you're doing a tonight. Like, there's something wrong. There's just something off. And it didn't feel like the same park anymore. And there's also so much Harry Potter that it kind of felt like. And their IPs are getting old. Like, they still had Terminator at the time, which was an older IP. And they had, like, you know, Shrek, which is, like, something that I think over time people are caring less and less about. So they were really in, like, a tough a tough spot i think just in terms of ip so i think that i would agree

with you that the ride will stay there as long as they don't create new ip or find a way to make existing ip fresh and that's going to be an improvement on the ride but they do seem like they want to do this thing of every single year something gets new put in the park yeah um which they've been pretty good about doing and i think that the thing about et is they've got a problem with spielberg because he says don't take it down um they have like a relationship with him where he where he doesn't want that ride taken down and i also think it does give you the classic universal movie energy whereas like you know the simpsons doesn't uh men in black that movie's aging but it moves it moves crowds and then like what else do you have i mean they're not gonna they're

not gonna take the fast and the furious ride out even if it's bad while that franchise is still going the mummy franchise is not still going yeah you know tonight show ride like as shitty as it is it feeds the tonight show brand so they'll keep that born identity is new um shrek that 3d space is is is gonna be a 3d show for whatever it'll probably be like kung fu panda whatever is doing well and then you have despicable me which is like you know you can't do much with that space besides that so it's like what else is there in the park really to replace which they said they were committed to doing so this is not something i want to happen but it's something that i think we need to get used to the idea of what do they have it's like uh um peacock saved by the bell reboot can that become a coaster well yeah i mean they

do have other nintendo stuff right which probably will become its own little mini lands and i've also heard a rumor that they might have to dump nintendo land in one of the existing parks yeah because there's a contract um so they like that like barney and five oh like yank barney and five well that was the original plan yeah yeah so that might still happen you're no that could be my dead body in woody woodpeckerers uh barnstormer what's that no that's goofy that area is so large like i'm never back there because i'm never going to seek barney but like that entire the entire curious george area and the barney like stage is huge like i went back that back there for halloween horror nights and i was like there's like a whole maze back there and the barney thing and the curious george and fibles playground and i'm like oh there's a ton of space here so it made

sense that that was going to be um super nintendo land but then when they were moving super nintendo land to the new park that was ultimately going to be a pokemon thing right so you guys know about the rumors that that was going to be pokemon super n Nintendo Land was going to be in the new park, and that they were going to phase out Poseidon's Fury and the Lost Continent area to be a Zelda thing? Zelda. Yeah. Oh, interesting. But now I don't think so.

Yeah, I think that's all. But I think they just have to have some sort of Nintendo presence in Orlando by a certain day. But obviously that time timeframe is all different, but I don't know. Yeah. Cause of money. Will they like cram some Nintendo things somewhere and not do a full

themed like Zelda land, which is my prediction is that what will happen is by the, by the early next year, it'll be announced that Epic universe is not happening or it's in postponed indefinitely and they're gonna do uh nintendo land in um universal in universal studios and i think they might try to find a way to repurpose something that they were gonna do um in the new park with harry potter fantastic beast or whatever i think they'll try to do something in the fear factor area maybe right oh yeah oh that's got to go even yeah that was one of the most unpleasant theme park live shows um i have ever seen is that more relevant though because the host of fear

factor uh is the biggest figure in all of media well now when you go to see that fear factor show just a guy sits on the stage and tells you about dmt and like um mixed martial arts and all of that moving to texas bro i'm out of here texas i'm out and he also he actually uh the big finale of the show is he says a lot of transphobic slurs yeah yeah and the florida crowd they go wild not the people listening to this who are good and we know that so uh just to say that yeah but if you're saying transphobic slurs you're not good oh no then you know then you're then you're not these are just all right these are different people i'm just gonna keep i'm just gonna keep spinning holes if i don't uh stop talking at some point in time um do we make it our way at the end jason uh well

i have a very odd thing this has not come up yet but since the you know the setup of the florida ride is that there's a you know the there's a curse the curse so everyone's worried about the curse they're all wearing magi medallions and uh then of course poor reggie learns the curse is real do you guys know the story uh i read about this years ago i could not find the original article but i found out the facts about it do you know the story about stephen summers cursed house he bought what director of the mummy stephen summers the director cursed house yes now bear with me there's a bit of a leap so in 2007 uh he stephen summers and his family bought a house in malibu for 10 million dollars the previous occupants of this house were the newlyweds britney spears and kevin federline uh mr popo zow himself kevin of course um wow they put a lot of

money into fixing up this house and put it on the market uh asking for he paid 10 million initially they were trying they were asking for it for 15.95 million because they had put so much work into it. It sat on the market for three years and eventually sold for $11.45 million. And simultaneously with that, Stephen Sommers' career as a director was really slowing down. He did the G.I. Joe movie

and then the adaptation of the Stephen Kuntz books odd Thomas and that was kind of the last we've heard of Stephen Summers so I remember coming across this years ago and the writer chronicling the foibles of this house was like his house might be cursed Britney Spears and Kevin

Federline Stephen Summers like it's not good energy not good energy in this house wait he's blaming the house on the career falling apart like that just like if you're superstitious like i i wouldn't buy this house but there's no like when you're a white man in hollywood who fails it can't possibly be you no it's gotta be it's gotta be your home that's cursed it's gotta be your 11.95 million dollar home there's not. It's got to be your $11.95 million home. There's not even a ghost story?

No. It's just a very weird connection between Kevin Federline and Stephen Summers and his directing career kind of slowing down. Kevin Federline's career was bright. He had the whole world ahead of him. And then this house, this cursed house. The cursed house.

The curse was real. Well, Britney Spears, like in the early 2000s her career also kind of getting weird so like the poor woman was through the ringer her i know she was i'm saying this house is fine all right let's just let me as the gay here just get on record by saying she actually hit her creative peak in the early aughts okay because the blackout album was a piece of art and never forget in the zone and also never forget that she um revitalized what it meant to be a pop star in vegas okay people before her were like it's the sunset of my career i'm going to vegas britney spears said i'm britney spears i'm like 35 i'm going to vegas and now you see all the girls all the peaks of their careers going to vegas i'm britney spears i'm like 35 i'm going to vegas and now you see all the girls

in the peaks of their careers going to vegas i'm not saying the work is bad you know i'm not saying the work's not good when does perfume come out oh bitch that's been out no i know but when is that when is it when did it come out when does when did it come out that was on britney Jean, which was like 2003? So that's even later. Perfume's even later. I'm such a big fan of I know Sia wrote it. Yes, I really respect you for knowing Perfume. I think Perfume's one of the best pop songs. I'm not even kidding.

And she famously sounds a thousand years old on it. She sounds Imhotep's age on the track. Perfume is like Jolene like it's like the same like the feeling yeah it's like you feel the you feel the emotion very strongly in both those songs can you do it as imhotep can i can anyone i don't know the song well enough i I could do Imhotep. So I wait for you to call and I try to act natural.

Have you been thinking about her or about me? Work, bitch, for all eternity. There's your title of ep. Yeah, there it is. Awesome. Well, I think on that note on the

note that the curse is real of the house at least uh matt rogers he survived podcast the ride uh there is no escape but we'll try to get out through the gift shop is there anything you would like to put oh i've just put my podcast last culture east that's where i sometimes i'm allowed to talk about things like this although when i do it's a it gets real insular so um but you can listen to that i co-host it with my best friend bowen yang is he is he anti theme park or is it just no very pro very pro it's just that once i get going i can take up a lot of space with that stuff so i have to check myself and then at of space here plenty of expansion pads as long as you want to go at the end of the month in september i have a show coming out on hbo max that i'm hosting called hot dog which you mentioned before which is a dog grooming competition show so i'm really excited about that wow wow and i have my show on quibi called game

show wonderful it's great yeah um and as for uh, you can check us out on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, and there's three bonus episodes every month at, uh, patreon.com slash podcast, the ride. That's the second gate, uh,

not canceled like a epic universe. Um, knock on, knock on wood. Um, yes. Yeah. And I think I speak for all of us when I say we would have enjoyed this

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