Podcast: The Ride - Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin

Episode Date: March 15, 2019

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FOREVER! DOG! Warning! This episode contains claustrophobic cues, dad embarrassment, and just when you feel deep in a film noir nightmare, a tropical light at the end of the tunnel. This is Roger Rabbit's cartoon spin on Podcast The Ride. uh welcome to podcast the ride the podcast where if you know exactly where to freeze frame it you can see us without underwear uh i'm scott gartner that's by mike carlson and jason sheridan yeah you had to remember why that yeah joke exists because the topic is roger rabbit it's also real creepy if you don't know my name is mike carlson by the way and impossible in a podcast uh yeah i just wanted

to talk about, I, you know, there's the, there's that freeze frame thing. And then I really like the, uh, the other one, the one in the short where there's the poster for rigid tools. Oh,

right, right, right, right. It's a Jessica rabbit looking character or straddling a chainsaw or something. And it says rigid, it's such a strange phrase before uh before everyone turns

the podcast off because they think we've turned into perverts we're talking about we're talking about um some of the like classic weird like pornographic disney secrets i guess right now actually if you listen to every episode of this podcast at some point you can hear me whisper take off your clothes uh like in uh the aladdin right like an aladdin it's an easter egg it's in every one of them send us all the time codes and we'll give you a prize like the little mermaid cover our our logos have have the drawn boner erin hides uh look for the secret dick in our abstract epikadi symbol yes you'll see it i'm trying to think of all the different ones okay so there's that but then there's also supposedly a secret like boner in little mermaid itself the priest the priest right

yeah we've talked about this maybe we've talked about the priest so i know this it's like a it's a side shot it's kind of a profile shot and this is weird Little like um rise In his priest Garment and that that people say Yeah maybe it's a knee or something but it is A pretty like just thin sure Uh straight forward you know the way Boners go

Straight out they don't like Rise up no no No character no no Change at all like Pinocchio's nose i guess really just straight ahead bloop straight ahead uh can i ask for context not just for the audience but also for myself what is the under so just there's a shot in jessica when they're spinning out in the car right there's supposedly that's what it is i think it's i i'm not even sure the scene i just like uh because i i thought i i could only remember the rigid tools well i actually forgot there was

one in the movie and i think it was like corrected long i'm not sure and you have to like brighten it up to see that it's uh the the i i don't know if it's no underwear if it's uh or it could have been a mistake too i just it's like you see up jessica rabbit's dress i feel like this is something like on ebom's world that i watched 10 years ago or something they were like there's a clip of it and i think i remember watching it and just like okay okay well that was it i don't know it's it's kind of noticed that just if it's just passing by it's sort of a letdown if you see it in some it's not a scandalous slideshow it seems like a lot more risque than it is because someone's like lightened the image and really made it a

whole presented it for you yes i see this is an interesting uh way into a thing i learned uh today uh roger rabbit is based on a fucking book uh-huh uh-huh who censored who censored roger rabbit and a much grimier like like it's a parody of like sam spade philip marlowe kind of noir detective stuff and like there is no judge doom roger is a lot more conniving in addition to being mischievous and jessica is a full-on like retired adult film star in it oh really oh that's apparently reading i don't think i don't know that it's in print and i think but i think you can find on like a books or like used books web websites and then there's two two sequels to it too who whacked roger rabbit and uh there's another

one discovered maybe maybe that was that what one of the unmade sequels was or prequels? That might have been one of the sequels. But yeah, I had no idea there was a book involved. And the author, I think it's Gary K. Wolf, has sued Disney before. Wow. I think ended up winning a few hundred thousand dollars for like, he said he was owed for gross receipts and they said he wasn't they actually owed him and so it eventually i think he was rewarded legal costs but oh gotcha but it was it's funny the disnification of thing where this was like a like a noir book playing

within the world of 40s cartoons and to see them take it all the way to roger rabbit's cartoon spin new disneyland yeah disney and amblin oh yeah yeah yeah career co-production um is it so did they buy out the rights completely or did they just like option it like a movie i mean obviously they own roger rabbit now but was like his dispute was like he just was owed more because he created the character yeah i think he was claiming he was owed more because they've made so much off the character and dvd sales and stuff right everything else over the years um yeah and now rod now as you're saying the disinfication but i think like now that wouldn't be made because robert uh zemeckis is saying that like disney doesn't like jessica rabbit anymore like they're very the lack of use

of the property on them not wanting such a sultry well i don't know if it's completely that but i think he's mentioned that he's done a lot of interviews with people ask him about it but i think he said something about like disney's not a fan of jessica rabbit anymore it seems like it was a fallout too with disney and amblin couldn't come to terms for like a full theme theme park land but did come to terms for one single ride and that is why this ride exists oh gotcha like there was yes because and we'll talk about it there were a number of alternate uh roger rabbit attractions yeah which could have happened like i really wish it would have happened especially yeah sometimes you hear about rides that didn't get built and you go, well, how would that

have worked? These all sounded really cool. Really cool. And really in the spirit of the original MGM Studios, the first decade of that. Yeah. Yeah. And would have been a killer expansion for that. Yeah.

And I believe if I'm if I'm remembering correctly, Jim Hill was talking On one of his 25 different Podcasts that I listened to About how they're going to reuse one of These ride systems for the Roger Rabbit ride On the Zootopia ride What? Really? Oh, the Trolley, yeah Oh, okay, yes

Well, because we can jump all around There was going to be a ride Called the Toontown Trolley. And there was a little trolley, the Jolly Trolley, that's still sort of around in Toontown and Disneyland, but not functional. But it was a little trolley car that kind of tipped back and forth. But there was going to be a concerted ride

that was a lot more of a Star Tours simulator that I don't really know the plot of it but just you know you're you're in a trolley car driven by roger and wrapped around a little more screens through the windows like on the sides oh that's cool okay okay so this was so potentially his utopia so that's yeah that's what jim hill said i'm trying to think of which podcast it was i don't know if it was his one with Len or it was somebody different. But yeah, he said that it's going to be like a bus and you're going to be

on like some police chase through Zootopia. I mean, that makes a lot of sense. The other thing was because there are wires on the Sunset Boulevard area of Hollywood Studios and those were going to be for red car trolleys. An idea that they also have reused in

dca but you were gonna take the red car trolley down sunset boulevard uh you know which ends with tower of terror and now rock and roller coaster but the rock and roller coaster plot was where they were gonna put the the roger rabbit stuff it was called either roger rabbits hollywood or maroon studios and there is still a maroon studios roger rabbits hollywood or maroon studios and there is still a maroon studios billboard at hollywood yeah right oh gotcha so it's always there's like little easter eggs of what was potentially to come and and kind of follows what is popular the last decade or so of a fully themed land multiple attractions a bar the terminal bar that like yeah bob hoskins goes to

like that would have been so great you hop off the trolley you go to the bar well and this all sounds because it all sounds cool because that sunset boulevard area of mgm studios like pretty neat and a very like um it just it made so much sense as an expansion yeah like we've got you go you go down hollywood boulevard so a like attached sunset boulevard but that like things are a little like seedy or creepier down that's where the scary rides are yeah and that culminating in the world of roger rabbit which is sort of seedy and creepy and sexy as we determined at the top of the episode uh for that yeah so i guess what i'm saying is that's a better end for that area than a warehouse with a guitar on the outside playing pink all day it feels very copacetic if it had been sitting next to

the hollywood tower hotel yeah like that right roger abbott's hollywood and the hotel like that makes sense but those obviously would have fit the best next to the hotel mel oh of course you know about the original mel the original tower of terror oh oh the mel brooks one yes yes when there was going for any listeners who don't know um there was the notion of a hotel drop ride before the Twilight Zone entered the picture. But it was going to be a wacky madcap thing involving Mel Brooks. Was it just like Mel? I forget. Was it original characters or was it like Mel's classic characters on the hotel?

No, I think it was him. Was he like, we'll look to more. Was it him like showing up? Was that a robot Mel on the ride? Or was it, what if that was going to be a screen ride like it is now with Guardians, but every floor there's a different, he's a bellhop, but he's also like an overall wearing like repair man. Or he's like both a man and a woman having an affair together like one door opens

and like like my word and like they cover themselves with the sheets him and carl reiner eating dinner out of their tv trays watching like jeopardy or something i would love a rider cameo uh also back there was going to be i think it's still an unused expansion pad The David Copperfield restaurant Oh yeah That never got filmed That's a thing I'd love to do an episode about And yet I don't think there's any info About it to hang an episode on

But there was like a Outside of Disney MGM Studios There was a sign There was like Copperfield making a plate Levitate or something. They got that far into we're committed to building a Copperfield restaurant and then it didn't end up happening. We need to get more like OG Hollywood Studios Imagineers on here

so they can give us the scoops. We need to get more insiders, I think, to get scoops like that because there's a lot of stuff like that where it's fascinating, but there's not a ton of stuff online about it. Yeah. So we got to dig them up ourselves. And you're right to say MGM Studios, but it does seem like it has the most weird. And then what was going to happen? And what was going to happen?

I think the nature of odd, briefly popular properties being able to slide in and out of there made it so a lot of really cockamamie ideas. Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, dinosaurs, Ace Ventura. That's still the weirdest one. And the end, as we talked about a little while ago, the many different Muppet attractions that didn't happen. Right. Yeah. How do we get to start looking up names? Let's look at names.

If you have a name at home of somebody to talk to about the disney mg of studios history we're starting to get emails of people like kind of giving us some little tidbits of information that might not be public so let's keep that going let's let's get the stuff going going how many characters was mel brooks gonna play right was he gonna be a dowdy woman offended that you caught him in his underwear? Right. Or underwear. Like turns like rude or no, look, you know, that was, oh, look, a man. Was the genie does that or something?

I think like he's got in the shower. Isn't genie in the shower at one point? Sounds right. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know what I'm saying. And does the like, oh, man. Yeah, yeah. Something like that. Like that old trope.

Yeah. So that would have been one of them. Yeah, I guess so. I'm stuck on this a man. That's really in my head. I know somebody says a man in a movie. Maybe that's not the genie. I don't think, I kind of don't think it is.

What is it then? So one of the listeners will tell me. It's another trickster, shape-shifting character. Is it the mask? Does the mask say a man? Does the mask say a man? Who says a man? Is it? Is it Joker? Is there a Joker that ever says it? Is it a Lo? Does the mask say a man? Does the mask say a man? Who says a man?

Is it? Is it Joker? Is there a Joker that ever says it? Is it a Looney Tune? Is it Bugs Bunny? Which kooky character is it? Yeah. It's a kooky character.

Who's excited to see a man? Hmm. I don't know. Somebody's script. This is the kind of thing where there's those lapses in our knowledge where someone has tweeted at us by the time we wake up on the day that the episode is released and this will certainly be one of those and they're mad at us yeah yeah how could you have every right to be look look if you're i mean they could be at a different time zone but look doing shift work sucks so it was drop dead fred what are you you're not doing that third shift is raw i've done

that before that or sweet shift uh you know you start to crack a little drop dead take your anger out on your favorite podcast sure yeah we understand well you want to stay in the zone of roger rabbit we have some big news but maybe we save some time at the end of the episode oh you want to do it at the end why don't we do this these are big news it's very big news it is very big you're right it's been it's you know let's talk about the ride let's be selfless before we talk about our giant accomplishment but for now roger rabbit's cartoon spin so a little bits of roger rabbit did make their way into especially mgm studios and uh uh the big one that i believe is still there is the stunt car like the car that was benny the cab the actual car that bob hoskins would ride in and a stunt driver would drive it like there

was a seat for him behind it that is in the back lot express restaurant or at least used to i believe it is still there the restaurant is still operating at hollywood studios is that right and yeah and that that um you can see the pictures of him like riding down the uh bridge that connects the atwater village neighborhood to the silver lake or los feliz neighborhood yeah bridge if yeah that we're frequently on and that a lot of the most a lot of people we know live around there sure you forget the uh the you've probably driven on it a ton of times without realizing, oh, yeah, this is where the Roger Rabbit car chase culminates. Yeah. I know it almost to the Atwater Dunkin Donuts. You do that weird U-turn.

Yeah. Before the Starbucks and you have a view of the Dunkin Donuts. Yes. Well, you probably just go straight to it, but yeah, you crash your car through the window. Crash my car. And I'm on the lower street.

And then I, the car goes up above to the bridge to get onto it. And then you eat as many like donuts as Homer did when he was in hell. Yeah. Every day. Uh, that was the second Dunkin' Donuts to come here, right? There was one in Santa Monica. There was one in Santa Monica. Uh, and then I think uh that was the second dungan donuts to come here right there was one in santa monica and then i think that was like the second one i don't know something like

that yeah there's still building there's still not a ton there's one right here now obviously um i won't say where yeah yeah don't don't dox yourself up here in santa clarita california where we record go start marching on go start knocking on every door in Santa Clarita and you'll find us. That's where we record. And then, so my favorite, I was very happy to discover, I did not imagine this as a child. There used to be a bunch of photo ops at the end of the Backlot tour at MGM Studios. You would get off and there was the um cars from roger abbott and the dip machine and you could get your pictures taken with all of this stuff but i have a very clear

memory of as a child going like i do not care for the dip i do not like i'm you're like scared of the scared of the dip yeah the dip machine was like very well done because it scared me as a child yeah so you didn't take a photo do you have a photo with you i'm sure i have photo well i think there was like a benny the cab that you could get a photo into um so i must have a photo in front of that stuff somewhere but i remember that it felt like and i don't know if they said there's roger rabbit stuff coming but like i feel like as a kid i was like well i bet they'll make a roger rabbit ride at some point like i just kind of was like well everyone knows roger he's in the giant

inflatable mardi gras parade it was really heavy presence at the parks around we've talked about how he was essentially like like kind of the big six he was almost in there and yeah they were a giant presence i strongly associate him with early disney mgm studios despite there being no attraction there uh i thought the back lot tour was yeah so full of uh yeah roger abbott pushing he was like stitch or poo bear like they recycle in and out of this like sixth character where you're like why is there so much stitch stuff around although i think probably he was maybe I know people do like stitch but it does feel a little bit forced we've talked about that before

but I definitely when he sure to be excellent live action version yeah when is that live action film it's so fun to see these movies rendered and live action is that real people in places

3d joyless that's the thing i know from my memory but now it's different now uh i can't i don't think i can get into the head of the person who's excited about i don't know some of i don't know i i shouldn't be such a grump about some of these movies are better than others. Uh, but man, like, uh, like Aladdin,

dear God, what are we? Yeah, I don't, I like jungle book a lot and I was, I was an expecting like it so much, but I really, really liked it.

Um, and that's, I haven't seen Cinderella, but that's the only one I've really been into. But yeah, I don't know. It's hard to take a movie that everyone loves and then put it in a totally different media, like in a different type of media.

That's not the word. Another medium. Excuse me. And then make it as good. It seems almost impossible. It seems like, especially with Aladdin aladdin and beauty and the beast it would be one thing to do like oliver and company which is not even though we all have fondness for it like yeah do what you want with oliver and company maybe don't have it memorized i feel

like lately we're in the territory now of films that we have yeah committed absolutely to memory and in the case of aladdin it's like you know then the genie shifts shapes and there's a giant a guy becomes a snake and you're like how is this going to be more visually appealing yeah yeah with cgi the musical i believe is very well reviewed the broadway musical but i don't that one i'm like why don't you just make a live movie of the musical because there are new there's additional songs too oh okay maybe that obviously we would be on board if at every screening will smith or all right a will smith sound alike was broadcasting live into the theater updated topical jokes well that's for every script responding to trump tweets as they occur if trump tweeted something at 5 p.m

i want the 7 30 show to have a new genie joke about it genie is going to dab right the genie has to dab because he can't really floss because he's got or no he can floss he can make legs yeah he can make legs so he can floss The later Genie when he was like more I mean he has legs in the movie before He's freed but I think he can make legs It's just like he's Generally float when he's float he has no legs

Will Smith will have legs and will walk around But I bet he'll float yeah so I so for Sure I think Genie flosses I think like what is this I mean He has to because now it's built in that genie makes topical jokes like as much as we were talking about how like oh yeah this is weird that the california venture genie's doing that that was rob williams did that there's tons of topical jokes jack nicholson impressions like stuff that should not have been in a movie that

was set a couple hundred years ago so like it is built now into the disney genie so you're right he has to dab or do the or floss or transform into uh pete davidson sure or uh uh ocasio cortez he has to reflect the culture yeah i think that that's right i think we're in for hopefully a very uh pop culture reference genie this genie will be doing the sarcastic clap i think i think jafar is gonna do something bad and then genie's just gonna be like and then like it'll pause on it and i think everyone will go nuts on the internet and then people people will like that in the theater now they think about it yeah if they really have to like get it exactly right yeah for people to get the reference although people have probably forgotten about it in three

months so maybe so how would they uh uh i'm thinking about like making a roger rabbit a live live a more live action roger rabbit we have to see realistic hair audiences today want to see hair they want to see that wet they want to see every follicle with crystal clear clarity yeah um i to correct correct myself from earlier the photo op for the backlot tour you could get a photo next to the weasel's car okay or you could get like green screened with benny or jessica rabbit uh-huh but you could get a photo i forget what blog i pulled this from uh under the uh under the wheel and pose like you were getting rolled over like judge doom like you were yes yes that was probably what oh yes what i was like i don't know upsetting to me yeah because i saw the

movie not when in the theater but i saw it on video and it disturbed a lot of things disturbed me about it and i think one of them for sure was him getting crushed by that at the end i think i would have been a much different person if i'd seen this when it came out in the theater because at least on vhs i could like close my eyes or like sink into the couch i saw it like at a friend's house and i think i like ran in and out of the room because i was during a lot of the scenes because i was freaked out by a lot of the elements of it i do think jessica rabbit freaked me out as well i think keeping with my game on the show i think jessica rabbit's sexuality quote unquote yeah in real life i i'm very comfortable with everything but in the show my persona on the show is someone who's very repressed and is someone who's not comfortable

with things like this but uh i do i do think i was like just too much i don't know what what what's going on here well it's more aggressive sexuality than probably any there's other uh sexy cartoon characters yes it's pretty cartoon as i said sexy cartoon characters i ended up looking right up at your uh the bear from uh swinging teddy bear over here on my on my other sexy cartoon characters like swinging teddy bear yeah uh it was like a may west flustered too uh it threw me off yeah yeah yeah i am purposely put in the seat where i can't see her because i would never get any episodes done guys can i move my chair for future episodes just i don't know i just kind of want to just different kind of

feng shui it has nothing to do with not wanting to stare the sexiest bear in the face swinging teddy bear um i but yeah more more aggressive sexuality certainly yeah and i was not ready for that i'm trying to think is this the earliest like crime detective thing i would have seen and because i liked even as a kid i liked all that so i remember step by step doing like a detective parody episode oh god i've seen that recently a full they did a lot of like the genre it turns into a movie for the entire yeah that was like a go-to genre parody for sitcoms kids cartoons like anything and then eventually voice for actresses is like hello mr spade spit like that's a good yes that's a great part to give to like a person in a play without a lot of range and then that's a voice anybody can do well that and then the the this is a classic

this is a go-to in improv this is i one of my go-tos that i probably it's the heavy the heavier the like hey mac all right get out of here like i just was in a sketch show where i played a bouncer at a jazz club but i was like well there's no question in my mind that i am all right you're out of here come on bub and like like a dozen characters do that voice in this movie. It's nothing but, yes. It's nothing but. There's a gorilla, there's a weasel. Yeah, and then one of the weasels is like, I'm going to ram him. I guess.

There's a very funny, in the car chase scene, I was laughing, listening at the driving weasel going like, I'm going to ram him. There was, I did a, I was, UCB has things called spank shows, which is like you're putting up a show. Oh, you don't need to explain this at all i know you guys know uh but that means that you're trying out a show to see if it gets a run and i was in a show it was written by a guy named our friend of ours josh weiner and it's called retired baby and i believe it was me and past guest jack allison and everyone was wearing diapers in the show and i I believe I did the Weasel. I had like a sucker in my mouth. I said, I did that voice like this.

Like the high gangster-y voice like that. So it is so, yeah. So this movie and these types of characters are ingrained. Everywhere. Yeah. You're either high voiced heavy or a gravelly voiced heavy. Yeah, this guy. Oh, this guy.

I used to be a Golden Gloves champ, and then they kicked me out because I didn't throw the fight. This sounds like the cab, too. You're right. Everyone in this movie is these voices. The cab and Baby Herman. Yeah. Oh, my God.

Yeah, Baby Herman's a deep one. Wow. There are 10 heavies in Roger Rabbit. There's so many heavies. I think I liked that as a kid. It was more just like when they would go into Toontown. And like, I think they do a great job in the movie. And also in the ride we're talking about, like of Toontown is unnerving.

It's unnerving to be a person in this world, in the Roger Rabbit world, I think. Mm-hmm. You feel like an outsider outsider there is a culture here yes they all yeah they're here too uh uh and we and we're on the outside of it um but the you know if we want to start getting into the ride the when you say unnerving i maybe this this may be the reason why this is not a ride that i frequent and i'm going to toss this out and i'm curious i'm curious how you guys feel but i think you might feel the same way uh there's something about that ride where it's all the way in the back of the park

it's like the furthest away it's like it's like if you were going to walk from this ride to Midway Mania, it's like two miles or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that feels like still part of this vibrant, exciting area. And Toontown is kind of ducked back there. It's sort of an area that's mainly photo ops and for children, so maybe it almost feels weird to go back there. But once you're in this ride, that line is so upsetting and claustrophobic.

Yeah. Needlessly long, seemingly, and boring. It's like being trapped in a sewer for 45 minutes. Yeah, the queue is very claustrophobic. You're right. Yeah. The ride's fun. The ride's fun the ride's fun i do like the ride i feel like i don't yeah i don't go back to toontown a lot for some reason

we you and i were down there once mike and i had gotten down there early and you were meeting me down there and for whatever reason you came and met me i think i had a fast pass for roger rabbit and i just remember you getting a hot dog and like hosing a hot dog in two or three bites hosing meaning eating fast eating really fast outside of toontown i've eaten a very fast hot dog outside of toontown a few times i think but yeah that seems right yeah because you go up to the little window there yeah there's a little there's a little spot it's yeah oh did you have more to the story you just wanted to know i just i was just like i have a very specific memory of like by the trolley or by like yeah that's fair i i think that's i've done that a few times did i

mishear a detail was this in the morning well i think it may be 11 a.m 11 30 i was there a little early and he was there this is more breakfast hot dog man i try to eat more a hot dog around lunch and i generally only eat it when I'm out. I don't have a pack of them. Do you have, by the way, just an update for the hot dog. Do you have a fresh pack of hot dogs in the fridge right now at this moment? No, but I have a little salami

I need to finish. Jason's to do list. Salami. Any other meats we should know about? Pizza rolls? That's not what i'm looking for what it said did not meat-esque liver sausage something like that no okay well anyway uh back to roger rabbit uh yeah the rod so i think because of its proximity to nothing that like small world is right there back in the back area of Disneyland and Toontown is. So there's nothing that would trick us to go back there regularly.

It's not on the way to anything. It's not on the way to anything. It'll be less of a dead end soon with Star Wars. Although that still won't connect. It won't. Yeah, that won't connect. Yeah. So that's not true connect i guess yeah that won't yeah okay so that's well there's talk isn't there talk of like someday maybe some frozen thing bridges the gap and then it's not a dead end anymore well there's a lot of rumors that are uh floating around the most recent rumor is that mickey and minnie's runaway railway will come to toontown yeah

backstage so but yeah it'll go backstage. So I'm not sure. I forget where the Frozen expansion. I think the Frozen expansion might have, if they were, because they were talking about Frozen and they were talking about putting a Be Our Guest back there. Oh, wow. But I think there's like a plot in between sort of Toontown and Star Wars

Land, but they could use that for Star Wars Ride. They could use that for the Fantasyland expansion You can also bulldoze the Fantasyland theater they've talked about that too I mean for a while Toontown was seemingly on the Chopping block that was all For a long time the rumor That that's where Star Wars was

Going to go right pretty amazing when they made That announcement and like oh we're not even They're putting it where and we're not even losing Toontown And it's kind of a best case scenario Not that i'd be fine losing toontown but i'm not a little child so easy for me to say now that is the big thing little children and out of town visitors or people who don't go to the parks that often that is when i found myself back there because people want to get they want to go to mickey mouse's house and get their picture with him and it's fun it is i like it but it's like it's never yeah for us who go uh quite frequently

yeah uh yeah it's not something you do every week childless men in their 30s sure um but i do think runaway railway is a very good idea to drive traffic back there because that's supposedly a very impressive ride i'm sure it's family friendly and like we'll all go back there very regularly to do that so like yeah that's kind of liven up the area big time if that indeed is is truly because that's the most recent rumor i've read that's happening in that zone i feel like there's not been a ton of chatter about frozen or whatever not that it's not going to happen but sure the most recent stuff is about runaway railway just moving into one of those buildings essentially like they're going to

gut the building but the building will still stand a bit like a backstage building yeah that's an entertainment which like it's the entertainment department so you know costumes parades all of that sort of thing we'll lose a massive facility it's gonna get worse and worse to work it sucks yeah pushing farther out on the outskirts of the land disney owns to like different to the point probably where like tony baxter was saying on our episode that we don't no one even really knows exactly how much land there is still to expand disneyland with which is we were all blown away by that tease but in the in the months since i've done a lot and I think we all have looked at the Google maps a lot to go like,

okay, it looks like you can get the, you can get like this much land up until the freeway up until the five. So I feel like they're just going to keep pushing buildings out in that backstage area to the point where like all of those buildings will be like across town and they'll all be busted and it'll just be this giant is because it doesn't seem like they're going to build a third park anytime soon. If you're a Disney employee,

you're going to have to park at the Citadel outlet mall, right up the five freeway, half an hour away, you know, get a good hour and take a gun on your costume. A gondola will take you down to Anaheim. It's an hour and a half gondola. Yeah, that's what's going to end up happening for each ride on.

Yeah, you have to pay for it. The genie comes alive on a screen and says, a dollar twenty five, please. At this point, coins Disney and the Anaheim offices have more like city planners and crowd specialists than like costume character performers like just to figure out like how do we manage this theme park in the middle of an actual city yeah yeah yeah but is it yes it keeps encroaching on the city limits which it will it's an. It's a living organism.

Talking about unused land, I mean, the Roger Rabbit stuff that was going to go in Disneyland was going to go behind Main Street in a new area called Hollywoodland. And one of our favorite specials, the Disneyland story with Harry Anderson, he says coming in 1993 i think like baby herman's runaway runaway baby carrot bumper baby yeah bug no buggy run god baby buggy ride runaway baby buggy ride to explain one of the many lies in that run of what's coming yeah in the disney decade this list that where i don't think a single one of them happened which is heartbreaking to watch and i watched as a kid and like oh i can't wait for all of that and not a not a one of them happened a little mermaid if the ride eventually happened 20 years later what do you yeah yeah yeah um which that ride uh in keeping with your sketch experience, you would have, all guests would have dressed up like a baby to go on the ride.

This is sort of a unique facet of it. This is all Jim Hill info that you were, did you guys read this, what the plot of the Baby Herman ride was? A little of the broad strokes yeah that uh it's not because it's hollywood land there has to be the you're on a set construct which is a little eye rolly but it's sort of fun funny that uh in the line you pass by baby herman's trailer and he's cantankerous and cigar chewing and he's refusing to come out of his trailer and to do the scene and he's cantankerous and cigar chewing and he's refusing to come out of his trailer and to do the scene and he's saying it's too dangerous get a stunt double and so when you get to the front of the line an employee says hey would you guys be willing to be the stunt double for the baby and

then you are outfitted with baby bonnets so in the in the perhaps the only that's bizarre theme park use of the only theme park instance of clothing being uh shoved upon you that is not besides 3d glasses yeah you are given a prop uh-huh which i guess i maybe that's like paper so that's that's akin to like a paper hat or something so they can afford to print those cheap and give them out. But maybe there was a cleaning station. Very possibly. A bonnet cleaning station that would have had to be installed. And there were just people back there cleaning bonnets all day.

Yet another measles outbreak as an unvaccinated child has sullied baby bonnets. Measles soaked baby bonnets. Measles soaked baby bonnets. Not an actual baby, a seven-year-old dressed as a baby yeah there was an outbreak but that but so there would be your photo taken a la space mountain or spudge man or whatever but everybody would everybody in the car would be wearing a ridiculous baby bonnet but you could see how this that like that's an interesting idea that they should deploy for something yeah everybody looks silly you would see those on social media that's true yeah i mean it is a good idea because like

the joke of course would be everyone humiliating their father yeah that's what they're looking for is that everyone's father with a baby bottom would look absurd and then everyone would want to buy the photo because then it would be like hot look at your asshole dad who's an asshole all the time so much stuff is just based on like dad's being cranky and assholes all the merch yeah all the whole like we know dad's not happy to be here buy him a shirt to call him an asshole and then buy a picture where he looks like an asshole to stick it to him for not being happy to be here that's embracing toxic masculinity or really giving it to really taking them down a peg. Remember you were just a baby once.

Yeah. You think you're so big. Uh, the, um, Oh God, what was I going to say? I lost it.

You're just imagining. We're all imagining our dads. We're all about to get sport about it. What he, what he's gotten pulled up to do. I'm not sure I've think my dad's a good sport about it when he when he's gotten pulled up to do i'm not sure i've seen my dad wear a costume this is a rare event in the world like i've been watching king of the hill lately and like my dad's not like hank hill but i think probably a lot of dads have shades of hank hill and i my dad's probably more the type like i don't know i'd

look ridiculous right i think my dad wore like a little costume once but it was not he would not dress up yeah tiny ones my dad did the did the ceremony where you had to worship the totem god at the adventurers club oh right what did that make you wear you just had to like kneel on the ground and bow to the giant animatronic head. Oh. Because I was like, I know they give out a pin that you can't buy in the store. Can you? Oh, yeah.

Because you made him go up and get it for you. Would you volunteer? Oh, that's right. It was a great sport of Alan. Oh. Yeah. This is an interesting question for all our listeners to ponder. Has your dad worn a costume?

Did it improve your life did it like make you a more open free-thinking person to have a costume wearing dad even just like one time send us photos of your dad in costume i think tweet us photos oh i remember what i was going to say uh so that if if that if the hollywood land stuff and the baby Herman ride had come to fruition in modern day, they would have had to shut that ride down for a few weeks to take out all the cigars, to take out all the like child smoking reference. Because like, oh, yeah, because, oh, yes, that's a big thing. You can't you you can't smoke in like I don't think anyone smokes in any Disney stuff, period. Like Wolverine I guess in the Fox movies Wolverine smoked But like Nick Fury usually chomping on a cigar

In the comics not so in the Avengers Has Wolverine smoked lately in movies though? I don't know Yeah I'm sure though He's like drinking and popping pills in Logan But that's R rated Right that's true So yet another If Zemeckis is declaring that disney's uncomfortable with jessica rabbit

and clearly they would not want baby herman around a baby smoking a cigar there's a lot maybe preventing roger abbott's presence from being bigger these days yeah probably it's the most offensive film of all time right that's what i'm deterring what were the did you guys read about the the sequels or prequels a little bit i've read a little bit like i said i think i i think i'm correct that it's who discovered roger abbott um yeah but it's like the killed roger that was the i'm trying to remember because there's been several different ideas uh-huh there's been like recent ones i think there's been a recent script when i say recent i mean like in the last seven years and there was stuff that was like going to

immediately happen after it and i'm a little fuzzy on the chronology here which it was again it's going to make our listeners like yell at us it seems like well look it's about we're talking about the ride we don't have to care about the movies, but we that we can be mumbly and tangential in our vague knowledge of the films. I mean, clearly they wanted to do a lot with a movie does not land like Who Framed Roger Rabbit. And without making a big attempt at being a franchise. Yeah. And clearly they tried and they kept the characters alive with these shorts um and i think there were it seems to me like there were still murmurs of a of a roger avid sequel as late as the late 90s

yeah and then like the towel was not thrown in until you know over a decade later i think they've still talked up like a couple years ago there was zemeckis was talking about they had an idea where it would be like the pixar characters too essentially like you would get all of it like so they're they've been floating stuff lately we've heard the the rumor from years ago about the Hope and Crosby remake starring Mickey Mouse and Roger Rabbit what they were gonna remake do an old road comedy remake that would be Mickey and Roger if that's what the kids want well it's what this kid on the come pointing to jason sheridan wants i would love it if you did roger rabbit now if you did a new roger rabbit you have to have the minions right the minions have to show up i hear what

you're saying i don't disagree uh yeah or shrek i guess it could Shrek. I think that I would be fine with Shrek. I think that's probably unlikely now because of the companies being at war kind of with each other. Yeah, the peace pipe that is the Mickey Bugs scene, I'm not sure occurs today. Yeah. Like our politics. Yeah. Like our politics. There was once a time when Democrats and Republicans could reach across the aisle.

And Disney and any other company could get along. Now things are awfully divisive. Roger Rabbit is an impressive creation of like looks kind of Disney-y, but has like the Bugs Bunny sort of like mischievousness. Yeah. Yeah, because it's definitely a little bit more edgy too yeah um i think maybe there's probably a different set of characters like maybe the hannah barbara characters are more up for grabs right now than the looney tunes even though they're owned by the same company but you know who knows i may be like if characters are sort of in flux are the characters

that they would have like let license out to dis to use. So there's a whole set. So Mickey and Top Cat could meet. Mickey and Top Cat. Mickey and the Harvey Comics characters, Casper the Ghost, Hot Stuff the Little Devil, Little Lotta, you know, all the classic Harvey Comics. You could get some of the DreamWorks characters, but just the TV series ones, just like the Troll Hunters.

Okay. Yeah. Sure. Mickey can meet a troll hunter mickey can mickey can't meet uh the real calvin from the comics but he can meet a ripoff calvin peeing on a logo of a truck right the bootleg calvin yeah yeah mickey can mickey yeah that bootleg calvin obviously mickey can talk to anytime he wants so yeah there's ways around it but yeah who knows so yeah they've been talking there's many options on the table i still think every time they ask roberts megas

about it he doesn't like close the door completely it seems like he's wanted to do it forever and i also think he wants to do like motion capture i think he's you know we know he's high on that motion capture it's like a weird it's like a like the relative you know is gonna bring up that interest he has that you don't want like oh he's gonna get into this again yeah it's also weird with his motion capture because i feel like his specific motion capture has a thing to it that most people go oh yeah okay he's doing one of these movies again whereas like say what you will about avengers infinity war like but thanos is a motion capture character and i thought he looks great i like he's kind of seamless yeah he looks seamless it's it's josh brolin you get

the performance from him oh people have like you know like uh what's the the planet of the apes and yeah right yeah there's great motion capture. So it is weird. Whatever the way. Yeah, I don't know what it is. Marwen, the fact that he stepped aside for a while and then did Welcome to Marwen and like right back exactly where we were before. But it's like secret.

Like the movie is a lot of just regular footage, right? Yeah, and then it eases you in. Oh, it's a mocap. They snuck me into a mocap but there's still something about it that feels like he's like it's like a sega dreamcast game yeah that's i think how he likes it i think zemeckis likes the uncanny valley yeah he owns the property in the uncanny valley uh-huh i like it here it's spacious there's no neighbors nobody else wants to live here but it's not a throwback like i feel like and i'm sure like in the indie video game world that you

i bet you're starting to see if not now i'm sure you will at some point like playstation one kind of polygon sort of design like virtual fighter level uh design because you can do that on like a fucking laptop now you can design that uh-huh yeah it's interesting the zemeckis one is not really referencing anything besides reality kind of it's referencing creepiness yes it's referencing looking uh very strange i saw the film It's a very strange film But I'd rather Talk about the fun spinning ride Yeah

Yeah Talk about Zemeckis' Real life wife Being naked In his film Oh wow Maybe we do want to talk About that

No wait That's not Leslie Zemeckis We'll do that on the Welcome to Marwen Cartoon spin episode And we spin out our welcome to marwin theme park marwin land welcome to marwin land dubai marwin land dubai that's what's moving into

that uh fox space oh yeah yeah that's the only buy zemeckis is gonna buy it and make it a marwin you heard it here first trustworthy rumors from podcast the ride uh let's talk about the fun spinning ride so the line is a bit claustrophobic yeah well yeah all right i was just gonna jump back what you were saying about it it is sort of not a fun it's hot in there too i feel like very warm and dark and then you'll look it's mainly you're just like looking at doors and trash cans but then you'll look and the little slat will open and the the big scary gorilla eyes of the bouncer will be there um and that's the most entertainment you have it's like being in jail you're in solitary confinement in this line there's something weird about this ride too that is not

memorable like the line isn't particularly memorable whereas like toad's line is so tiny and i guess maybe that's but i know the lines for all of those dark rides and fantasy lands so well i guess it's just because i go on them more especially you there's that statue of toad that everyone stops to take a picture with no one's ever that is one of the most oddly i think photographed locations in disneyland you have to take a picture you can see the wear and tear it's like the wood is faded a little or whatever is faded where people put their hands uh like i i'll just say my plus up for this ride right now take the the lot take the line just take the roof off just

remove the roof make it like a nice make it a nice little park we don't need to like get into the story just give me a garden to walk through because that i think is what's up with mr toad you like you end up in his house but a lot of it yeah it's just like nice shrubs hey it's a nice day out it's a great line i don't need any more theming i'd rather have a couple of trees and some oxygen yeah i don't know what i'm trying to remember there's nothing like there's crates right there are crates there's like some crates you hear the weasels talking you hear people talking you hear creeps murmuring talking about plans for what they're going to do to the character you like i feel so us you're the creeps

yeah so um i don't and so really i do i think it is the line i think the line is the problem the line is why is why i don't go back there if i can fast pass it sure and it's a good like way to fill a little gap in your in your max pass hopping around day right but if you like you literally can't do that line like i don't like i'll never do it again i hate that line huh yeah i i get i would guess now that i'm thinking about it and i've been to disneyland in over i guess 12 for 12 years now and i've been over 100 times because the annual pass keeps track and it was over 100 at one point and then it reset because there was a couple gaps. Yeah, mine's reset. I don't know.

I've lost track. I'm upset about that because I was like oh cool, it's really tracking and then I let it lapse for a couple months and now it's back to Why you don't let it lapse? Don't ever take a break. Never, yeah. And now it's only at 20 or something. So I bet I've only been on this ride five times.

I bet it's five. In 12 years? In 12 years. I bet I've been on it five, six times. It can't be much more. It's about where I'm at. Jason? No, I'm trying to think.

Like, yeah, it might be around there. Over a hundred times. I've been on, you know, know big thunder 50 i bet 50 or more times yeah on a mansion 50 or more times all the big pirates 50 or more times roger rabbits five to seven yeah and think about where you are in those lines you're weaving in and out of a fun little mine town you're uh you're you're in a nicely uh manicured courtyard outside of a stately mansion sure and you're in like a nice little fountain area in a new orleans square i like i think there's something about i'd like i like

gardens i think i'm a garden guy the land opened opened in 93. The ride opened in 94. They don't have an excuse. They built it all from scratch. They could have made the line big. Yeah. Probably nobody's gonna want to go on this. I guess they were thinking because it is like, it is a little bit of a bigger in scope dark ride like the Fantasyland rides.

So were they thinking like, we'll make the line as short as those lines? Maybe they didn't have the room. Maybe they, yeah, maybe that's it.'s it still you could have pushed back i don't know it seems weird it seems weird that the line isn't a little bit bigger is there is this the worst line oh that's good that's a good question um yeah worst line i don't have any at my disposal fun line astro orbiter is bad because it's nothing it's really tight but does that even does that even count because it's nothing make does the pixar pixar around to count because that's nothing that's nothing as well you can't load a first wheel there's no way to load a

ferris wheel fast i think the question now should be changed to of all the lines that are something is this the worst line okay that's a good way because the astrober is nothing the fun pat fun wheel is going to call it of course that's not right it's the pixar pal around that thing we do with our friends we all know and love i don't even recognize it when you said it oh it's the ferris wheel um i'm the host of this you know it's next to the uh years long broken uh fountain show it's next to the scrapyard that used to be a fun nighttime extravaganza i think you got to go to maybe to like epcot i feel like there's bad epcot lines uh spaceship earth is outside mostly you kind of get on right when you're inside the building

i'd almost consider that almost nothing i'd almost consider that line nothing beautiful mural too that beautiful 70s kind of so yeah let's put it to by the way let's not to wrap it up but let's put it to listeners yeah what's yeah worst line that is something that is something because like buzz lightyear a lot of his outside but there is an inside line and i'm trying to think do i i like that line better it's still little dated looking now but you got that big Buzz Lightyear animatronic there. And that's still fun to see him. There's no that Disney term with the weenie, the thing that leads you. Like, well, even this part's a slog, but I'm going to get this.

You know, it's a bad line. Not Star Tours, obviously. But the pre-Star Tours, if you end up in that other room, that's a drag in there. Yeah. Once you're past, you know, Toy Story Midway Mania lures you in with Mr. Potato Head, which is great. Yes. But once you're past that, that room is awful. Yeah.

The hallway. Just the back and forth with only four posters to look at yeah it's nothing that's a thing that makes you have to get a fast pass for the like you can't get stuck in there right but he's still that's i'd rather it's not as bad though i'd rather be right so yeah brighter room at least yeah i'm like i'm getting ready for the carnival it's the most theming it's the most theming worst line. You know what I mean? Like it's because it is a, it is themed the whole way and it is a decent amount, but it

is. Yeah. Huh. I think, I think it probably wins these parameters in my mind. I think this is the answer. I can't think of anything where a line was specifically made with decisions and it's not good. It does feel like um every now and

then you hear about like well this was a story decision or an imagineering decision they really should have checked in with operations more because i feel like they're the department to go like oh that's actually unpleasant for a human to do that for more than five minutes can we plus it up though as it is because there's like certain parts of the indiana jones line which are claustrophobic but you're constantly moving especially now which i think i've never said this somebody corrected me i said this a while ago that there must be a fire issue with the line how they move us through that is not the case it's because of fast passes somebody corrected me online i said no because because now there's no

you'd never really get backed up until you get to sort of the end of the indiana jones line because you don't get to see all the great details in it because you zoom through it so fast but it's not because of some fire issue that's changed it's because the way they've had to do fast pass because it was not built for fast pass right so they have to keep most of it clear in order to actually send you to the front for the fast pass to skip anything exactly so that's why it does that now which is a bummer now we know so yeah somebody well it's good to skip parts of the line but then you don't get to enjoy right of the best lines and a good claustrophobic line uh in terms of how to plus it up uh some lights uh lamp okay lights lamp uh ceiling off

fans yeah uh is there something you would see where i want to see do we want to see a character oh i mean if there was a animatronic roger talking to you so yeah can we just put a very expensive talking roger rabbit like the potato head and would that make us go in the line be like well that robot is good and we're hot as shit by the time we get on the line yeah baby herman roasting you that would be good horse belt jokes uh because then we would want to go into the line i feel like if there was a really good baby herman let's go see herman we got to go see herman see what he's gonna say and jared jord jessica rabbit well that i wouldn't myself i couldn't do that i forgot there was a jessica rabbit animatronic in this ride so my might have to change my leota girlfriend choice oh yeah well we all forgot rabbit yeah

because we all forget about this and she's got a giant mallet so um kill me queen smash my head in like uh gallagher's watermelon with that mallet hashtag kill me queen is that a thing people say or did you just compile things that people say into kill me queen or have you seen that i there's like a running like joke on twitter there's i feel like i've seen articles about it now of like people saying like like yes murder me murder me ariana murder me uh i see hemsworth brothers right like it's it's it's a jokey way to say like i love you you're great like murder me with a gun but in this case she has the literal uh capacity she yeah she does she can kill you uh um but you

know what let me let me say this uh that we i feel like it's you know hey this has been like the like the the line itself it's been a it's been a dark, dreary journey, right? We're talking about how much we don't like this line, and I think it had to be addressed. We're talking about rides that never got built, and scandalous pornography in these films. For all that said, I do like the ride. And I'll say another thing.

I'll amend that a little bit to say I did really like the ride and i'll you and i'll i'll say another thing i'll amend that a little bit to say i did really like the ride and in my memory when this came out so i don't know when you guys went on it the first time but i went when i went as a kid when it opened closer to 94 95 i it was great i really like i might have listed this as in my top five. Really? Oh, sure. And what I think is that the quality has dipped, has dipped. I think it, like, maybe this is a case of my childhood memory being brighter than what something is. Like, I had rose-colored glasses because i was a kid

but in my memory the spinning worked better it was just like generally better kept up right it i feel like it came out of the gate shiny and glossy and a lot of fun and all the effects work and it was a new type of ride uh it was before there was trackless which is kind of the new dark ride innovation it was sort of the first new type of dark ride in a long time to invent a ride vehicle which is very fun and i think it worked better in the 90s i think maybe they've sort of just like let it not i just i just feel like it's not at operating at peak quality. Well, I think the people who made the ride did a great job. I think it's a great notion of a ride and a ride vehicle. And Jason, what if I told you that there's a place where you could go back to where everything looks shiny and new and it is in the land of the rising sun?

Because the only other place this was ever cloned was tokyo disney and i watched back to back a couple times the anaheim version and the tokyo version and i'm like are these different and they're kind of not all of the set pieces all the show scenes are the same so i'm not spoiling anything for you but kind of a conclusion we hit on the tokyo one and i forget whether you would scurry away or not it goes out the door everything everything seems the lighting seems better the paint seems better the effects seem everything seems to be working shiny ride specifically on this ride from the video so i know you know there's gonna be a lot of you know you gotta cram a lot into uh your time in

japan but if if you are thinking, well, I did really like this. You guys don't know how long I'm going for. No, we don't. Oh, interesting. I wasn't going to bring that. We'll see. I'm not even sure I know. Oh, that's good.

That's a great tease. I will say this. We were there for three and a half days. We did not do this right. Okay. I think I got to do it. I think for sake of a comparison. I think you should try it.

I'm not going to tell you which language it's in. know it's a 50 50 chance uh-huh it's in uh spanish wow i didn't see that one coming um you know that thought it crossed my mind and i will definitely make time uh to do it unless i can only wait in the line and oh maybe i'll do the line and like the line was great oh yeah i didn't really investigate the line i might need to do it uh i might need to devote an hour and a half of my time it's probably that long because everything's so such a long wait okay no it is um well so i'm hopeful about that uh uh i hope that i because i do in my memory i i just you know this this happens the rides i think i think toontown in general uh came out of the gate so strong that was a fantastic

like what what are your memories of toontown loved it yeah loved it so much i'm sure there's like a full toontown episode down the road so i don't want to get it into it too much but um it i i you know like i think you guys have all we've all commented on it seems like the it's like the paint literally fades yeah i feel like it opened and it was so bright and vibrant and uh and to see a land where every structure is bending and twisting it was like a super dynamic to walk around in and also keep in mind bounce house open yeah uh the chip and dale ball pit and slide open like you could actually do the things in the land i can't go in that ball pit even if i even if i wanted to did you if i wanted to go take a piss in that ball pit it couldn't be done that's did you do all of that when you were little

yeah yeah it was great it was all so great the bounce house wore me out i remember i remember like getting exhausted i was like like you imagine that you're just like that you're tigger jumping around like this will be this this will be super easy i'll be bounding across the room and but in fact it was like a tremendous amount of physical exertion and other kids are mean and you're getting stomped on but yeah still i like dude down was fantastic when it opened that was though that was we talked we've talked about this i'm sure was when I saw pictures of it because we didn't have it in Florida. Oh yeah. So we had like

Mickey's Birthday Land and then that kind of evolved into Toontown. But it was not a true Toontown. It wasn't the real Toontown. By the way, I can't wait to talk that's the topic I'm looking forward to very much. Mickey's Birthday Land slash Mickey's Starland. Obviously separate. Two different episodes. Two totally different than Starland. Yeah. Obviously separate. Two different episodes.

Come on. Totally different than Starland. Two, two and a half hour episodes on their own. Um, but I was so envious of it cause that's as a kid, especially it's like living and seeing Mickey where Mickey lives. And,

and like, I don't know why it's like hanging out in Mickey's house is the thing I wanted to do, but I did, I guess. You gotta see the den yeah you gotta try and get a call and response going the next time we do a live show we we say if i want to make a call you say i use my dream i yeah that's my rice i'm like mark walberg in the movie rock star what if i was the leader of my favorite band in the world and then it came true hey everybody

where are my calls made? I think we'll have this dream realized this year somewhere. I think so. We'll see where that'll happen. We gotta do it. Start practicing, everybody. Yeah, so just jealous, envious, so imagining how amazing this must be. I was very excited about seeing that Indiana Jones ride, but more for sure, more so about Toontown. And of course, as I've said many times, I thought, oh man, that sucks.

I'll never, ever go there. I will never go to California. Why would I ever go? I go to two places, Illinois and Florida. That's it. That will be it for the rest of my life. Yeah. Ricky and Lucy and Fred and Ethel drove to California, but it was a whole ordeal.

Yeah, and I was on one airplane when I was 15, and that was it. Before that, I was like, I'm scared to fly. You'll crash. I don't want to do that. If somebody came to you and said, not only will you live in Los Angeles for many years, but about a decade in,can donuts will migrate to los angeles yeah uh i would have been somewhat excited but i'm not the duncan man that jason is i go to duncan but uh we had a donut place called family don't family donuts what am i losing my mind now

not family that was a family video uh country donuts thank you oh country donuts that we liked better we thought was a better quality than duncan and i think they probably were so this but my hypothetical figure from the future says what if i told you one day duncan donuts will be well actually well that's all right but there's this one that's better and i would explain to him that it's not really one of my favorites i would be like real pithy about it all right oh, all right. I'll go tell Jason about the, I'll go tell your eventual friend Jason

about the Dunkin' Donuts instead. He'll like it better. So, yeah. I did, I made it. I made it to California. You made it. And you did go on Roger Rabbit's cartoon. You answered all of the trivia questions correctly

at Lucia Tribute, and you got to California. Sure. My future two and a half hour. Oh, I'm ready for two and a half hours on the Lucy. Oh, that's right. We had the discussion in text about what would be a sea ticket. And there was the declaration. No, no, no.

Lucia Tribute is a full episode. Yeah. In case you don't know. Yeah. I was going to say on our Patreon, which is our exclusive episodes for the subscribers, like we have little shorter episodes for stuff that, you know, maybe that doesn't warrant a two hour discussion. Only

an hour. Not that much shorter. Not that much shorter. Yeah. About 45 minutes to an hour or something. And I think, yeah, Scott was like, you know, we could do like Lucy, the experience on the AC ticket. I think Jason and I were like you know we could do like lucy the experience on the c ticket i think jason i would be like no full episode hang on a minute we have gail gordon to get through and yeah uh so there will be a full lucy the experience episode um okay let me uh let me talk about something big so that i don't forget it as i said big a successful part of this

ride and i think there's neat about this ride is that it is a spinning ride like the teacups mixed with a dark ride very cool idea i wish the spinning worked better it is a it's pretty arduous to do it and i come to i found like there's something where if you're turning left, then if you spin left, it's great or vice versa. But if you're spinning against the grain, the thing kind of struggles, which children love to do. Uh huh. There's got to be a new version of this. I don't know if it exists yet, but there's got to be a new version of this where you're just hitting buttons and you're not actually with your strength spinning the ride. Because that is what I think is happening there. You are literally using all of your might to switch the ride to a different direction.

Like an actual old car. No power steering. No power assistance steering. Yes, exactly. A kind of car we'll never have to drive. Yeah, exactly. And it's not like Buzz Lightyear either, which is just kind of a joystick. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Oh, no, you right there you're there it is that's exactly what i'm saying

that's the way that's the way to do it that's not really an out of control spin right but i mean i'm sure there's a way to just do that that's not a little bit wilder because you don't want to be wild when you're trying to shoot it emperor zerg you want aim and precision yeah right so but exactly that's exactly what your side was like i don't know if this exists so this ties exactly into what i wanted to talk about which is that uh there was they knew they wanted to do a spinning ride and there was the talk of what is our ride vehicle going to be uh maybe it is an omni mover which is what the haunted mansion most famously is and

also what buzz lightyear is where it's the track that is nothing but cars that is always uh going unless somebody needs assistance getting on the car and uh and so there was discussion of well is it that uh is it an omni mover or is it something where you're launching individual cars a la Pinocchio's Daring Journey or the other Disneyland or the other Fantasyland dark rides? And to solve this issue, apparently Imagineers got to take a teacup and put it on the Haunted Mansion andocchio's derringer i didn't read this this is a story that has resonated in my head since childhood i had to go back into my the archives physical copy of disney news that i subscribed to from the 90s and and i looked it up to make sure i wasn't crazy this i couldn't find this online anywhere this is lost to the sands of time you just remembered this yeah and i think it factors into how much i like

the ride that i maybe like the ride more than you guys it's possible that i've had this in my head for so long the idea that this this fantasy yes taking a different ride vehicle like the power of these disney people wow they took a teacup onto the haunted mansion and they spun it around the entire ride that's interesting cool that you talk about disneyland fantasies or whatever that is upon remembering it immediately on there yeah wow that's like i'm trying to think what else you could fit onto the haunted mansion track like because it's a perfect i guess like a toad vehicle you could put like a toad motor car on the haunted mansion track but i guess there's no other what the only what you'd want to do is like drive a car yourself around

yes that's true yeah you want to take an autopia car through the haunted mansion is what you want to do yes that's but that's all the tombstones and the ghosts. Right. You may as well just take a golf cart, though, at that point. Yes, great. Ford Focus or his smart car. Or send the Haunted Mansion, or send, I'm sorry, send Space Mountain

going through there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that would be good. Or flood it with water and let me take a log through the Haunted Mansion. Sure. What about one of the cars? What about the cars ride from the Radiator Springs? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, that'd be good, too. Maybe too wide. I want to take a Main Street Electrical

Parade bug. Oh, this feels decadent. Just imagining this. You won't even allow yourself such a fantasy. This feels like hedonism. Yeah. It's too good. Wait, wait, wait. Put the Star Speeder on the haunted mansion track and ride star tours while you're going through the haunted mansion so with but with like windows you can also look into the cemetery no no you're just oh you're

there you just know if you're shown a security video you know you're taking a star tours through the mansion you'll just know it it'll be a thing you'll a little your little secret and mike yours would be just a regular doom buggy but teddy barrow would be a company you know room for one more like she the animatronic pats the seat if you could take an entire if you could do a a swing ride all the way through the haunted mansion and you're sitting on a swing and michael's just covered in flop sweat by the end what about silly symphony swings and teddy bear is in the swing next to you a california adventure because she swings she's swinging teddy bear that's true so every other one there's like a

robot bear or something like your childhood you are withholding your own satisfaction put yourself in the swing no i'm too uncomfortable i can't i can't i want her far away i want to i want her close but not touching me i would prefer that you wanted to be able to like cheekily wave from afar and wink this is what i wanted in junior high in high school and i want it when we're doing this weird bear fantasy the only thing that would be better than taking a teacup through the haunted mansion so apparently this was done they did it wow they and they said so and like and pinocchio let's not discount that they took a teacup through pinocchio that's so crazy that how does this happen how does it like like mechanics have to They took a teacup through Pinocchio. That's so crazy. How does this happen?

How does it, like, mechanics have to, like, wheel a teacup around and they have to drop it onto a, how does it even function? Tight clearances in Pinocchio, too. Yeah. Can it even make it through? It's so strange. It almost makes me wonder if this is, like, a made-up story. Did you find the magazine? Oh, yeah.

I read it. Oh, okay, great. Oh, yes. With quotes. I didn't write down their names But Imagineers are quoted who say that they did this They said that The Haunted Mansion was cool

Especially because They got to go down the hill Into the cemetery Like, you know Where you're down by the shaking leg guy They got to do that hill Spinning the entire way guy that they got to do that hill spinning the entire way and that was super cool however the public could not be trusted with that ability yeah

once you fall out of the teacup when you're going down to the cemetery it is kind of steep and everybody would like spin down to the side you could never like stay up on top but i feel like you could fall out yeah at the angle absolutely yeah maybe they were like belted around like uh when you're sawing a tree down at the top you know what i'm saying yeah yeah or they were strapped in like a rapid ride or something jason gave me another good ride when i said that jason gave me the eyes like i know i know what that tree chopping down is yeah yeah your logging days uh uh so they did this and then but actually so it's like well that was very cool do we do an omni mover then they did pinocchio what they found was oh this is so cool

there's doors smashing open something that you couldn't do right in the haunted man like the haunted mansion there's no obstacles because there has to be constant cars going through but when you're you're crashing through doors uh uh and and like or if you you know clearly there's a part in uh roger rabbit that's very much like mr toad kind of tribute to mr toad of like the explosion goes off and now like and it's and you're spinning while doing it so you're you're disoriented and everything so you could do effects like that and the coolest thing they found was that they're spinning towards monstro at the end and they're approaching and monstro is starting to rise then they do a rotation and now monstro is right in your face right so it's as if he's you know he's three times bigger in the space of a second so they

said that's what it has to be it has to be a fantasy land dark ride combined with with the teacups uh as opposed to the omni mover yeah and this experiment that's the kind of thing that makes you like you'd go i'd kill to be an imagineer that's so fun so so neat so um it's interesting they went with the full like you can decide where you're turning though because that specific effect you're talking about with, like, all of a sudden coming upon Monstro, when the guest is doing that, it's like, that's random. Uh-huh. So it is weird that they didn't just make it a spinning ride that was pre-programmed. Sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where they could, like, make things happen to their liking. i guess but hey it's uh it's up to you it's sure because i think probably interactive rides are becoming in vogue because that was in the biggest way going to happen with indiana jones very soon so they're probably thinking guests want to customize the experience and i think they also thought maybe you don't want to spin maybe you're not random right like randomized yeah what did i say oh yeah it's not yeah it's not to make your own experience but like uh yeah i guess rides that are different every time yeah that switches between things yeah yeah that makes some sense um but yeah it does seem like that would be a cool because it seems

like with hump who's honey hunt which i apologize again to you for not being able to do this when you're in japan but like there's a lot of i don't you for not being able to do this when you're in Japan. But like there's a lot of I don't know. There's nothing as big as that reveal you're talking about, but it is like spins and stuff. And you can really all of a sudden spring something on you because the audience is not controlling it, obviously. So it does feel like it's a missed opportunity to do some of that fun stuff. I think in retrospect, I think this Roger Rabbit ride is maybe like a step in the direction right of stuff like pooh's honey hunt right that's like like well like even more dynamic and that's like a fantasyland dark ride but five times longer and crazier animatronics but i do you know i think it's a type of ride that i like that's all of

those fantasyland rides are pretty claustrophobic they're done very quickly uh you don't cover a lot of space and i like that this roger ever ride is you know two times bigger i kind of wish there were more of these yeah it's like little mermaid which i enjoy it's like monsters inc i don't go on a lot but i like that it's there like kind of a two times three times bigger dark red yeah i i the little mermaid obviously yeah is a good example of what this kind of feels like i do think this one's better than little mermaid even though like the robots are better and there's some like better show scenes and but like we were talking like the there's a couple more memorable things to me like

the buildings at the end is a very fun cool effect yes great scene yeah absolutely but i do feel like the first half is a little bit unmemorable to me well like i said like it feels like it's much more memorable in pinocchio the some some of the same kind of themes and tricks and very similar settings kind of are like in pinocchio and Toad and they just stick out in my brain more. And maybe this is my problem for just going on it five times and not 20 times like, or 30 times, like I probably done Toad or Pinocchio, but I do feel like it's, I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's like, since it's got a bigger space and it's not like knocking me out, like Pooh's honey hunt like maybe i don't know it

doesn't it doesn't read it doesn't resonate with me it's like iconic maybe yeah i guess it doesn't feel iconic it doesn't feel like it has like these big like the biggest the best the best thing in the ride is the buildings right yeah you explode you are exploded out of the building uh and you fall from the sky essentially you're just going down a hallway but because of perspective it looks like you are falling a trick that i really only associate otherwise with um i guess isn't too right but mostly the amazing adventures of spider man has a great like when dr doom is levitating you and then unlevitates you and you fall and there's falling buildings on the screen and like sets around you and then spider-man catches you in his web and i think they do it

again in transformers too because it's got some similar very similar yeah sort of a visual drop yeah but i can't think of like a practical dark ride that really does it and at least doesn't do it as effectively as roger rabbit does yeah it's it's it's very clever and to like shift your perspective on a ride that is just going flat now there was going to be something that would spice the thing up and give it like a boost over other rides which is that um in the original plans you were going to go up uh to a second floor and go outside right and that the entire top level of like the not the residential half of toontown but the uh the city half with the gag factory and the fire station that that second level was going to have the kinetic energy of

the cabs spinning around up top yeah if you were able to spin around outside to get a different perspective on the land like that would have done it for me because it's like it like it's like lack like most of those rides you can pick out three to five things that's usually what i say like three to five moves or big things where you go i love that that that and then that leads up to a ride but like this one it's like i like that building thing i like that lens scene portable hole the port yeah the portable stretching arm is very uh very neat but those are the two those are the two things i think i go those two things are great uh and roger rabbit like kind of um because you fall through like the roof of the building and like after you fall through the city you fall through a building like with a staircase

and roger rabbit is sort of like up in the one corner going like i'll help you i'll get you down it doesn't really stick the landing and the transition from the stairway to the other factory you go into or the other warehouse like that's kind of a weird in between hallway and like the jessica there's jessica rabbit but it's like she's kind of an afterthought in the scene in a way in a way and not in the ride elsewhere not teased you're not you're gonna see jessica rabbit it's not like you go into a club and it's dark and there's jessica rabbit and she's singing or, which seems like that would have been the time. That would have been such a showcase kind of scene in there for that. And like a concert is going haywire.

Sure. Like, yeah, she's being chased around or and the Beatles have taken it over. I feel like it's missing stuff like that or something like where you really kind of get. Is baby Herman in the ride? It's a good question. I don't know the answer to it. Right. They said what I read was that the Imagineers were attempting to capture the essence of Roger Rabbit. And I think that is a more interesting point of view than Little Mermaid, which is like.

The telling the story. The book report. Yeah. As Tony sometimes says, the book report version of the story. That's true. Yeah. But then you end up like missing big things you like of the story. That's true, yeah. But then you end up like missing big things you like from the movie. I mean, there's no mention of Bob Hoskins characters or other humans and stuff.

Weird thing that always kind of rubbed me the wrong way that bumped for me was like in the opening scene, like you use the first time you spin. It's because like they dump the dip on the ground yeah but like roger and benny are in the middle of the dip and they're just kind of like whoa and it's like shouldn't benny be dead like shouldn't he be dead you are of course in lenny the cab but that was the thing i learned about you ride in lenny the cab is why that relative why in the world are you not i guess it's because they wanted benny to be you want to be able to see benny right so you're in lenny but who cares what do you mean i don't think i would care i think just i'm i'm in the why create an identical brother yeah very confusing prestige-esque the prestige really ripped off

the roger abbott cartoon spin right we didn't we didn't really talk about loading into the ride i didn't i didn't remember this is what the cars look like that it's like two people to a car but each car but there's two cars it's like a pair of cars every time so if you have party four you can all kind of ride together. And I guess it's split up. So if some people want to spin and some people don't, you can do that. Yeah. But it's a weird shrunk midi cars. Okay.

So what you just reminded me, obviously you can't be in Benny. You have to be in Lenny so you can see Benny. But you're next to another Lenny. So why are we okay with two Lenny's? Why can't we just be, if we're next to another Lenny. So why are we okay with two Lennys? Why can't we just be, if we're already breaking car math. Are they all like, how did the taxi, because

there are other cabs in Toontown, right? It's not just Benny. Clearly Lenny is also pulling some of the weight. Lenny is not in the movie, right? Lenny is totally ride specific. So Lenny is like Botanicus. Lenny is a created for, well, no, no, that's not different because he was created in a book first, so it's not Bot the movie, right? Lenny's totally ride specific. So Lenny is like Botanicus. Lenny's a created for... Well, no, no, that's not different because he was created in a book for us, so it's not Botanicus, but it's

who's a ride specific character. We'd have to go to who censored Roger Rabbit and figure out how many taxi cabs are in that to see what is... Okay, but we haven't done that. Lenny the cab could be in the book, which is why Gary Wolf is owed money. Maybe he is in canon, he is like just out of the clink.

He was doing some time. And then the ride is post-movie. So he is back on his feet. Turned his life around. Okay. Yeah. So there's multiple Lenny's. There's multiple Lenny's.

But I guess in the narrative of most rides, the other cars don't exist. Uh-huh. Even though in lot a lot of rides car vehicles are different and named differently but i think you're not supposed to see the other people it's supposed to be just your journey this happening once in alice in wonderland you're in the caterpillar and then you see the caterpillar that's true yeah who gives why are we starting to break this apart you know it was in the 90s it was the 60s yeah the 90s was just everyone was having their lattes they were too logical in the 90s i guess i guess probably it's like the cars ride too where it's like you're in very similar to lightning

mcqueen's but they're not lightning mcqueen they're different colors they don't have names i think it's just naming it lenny is the thing that's throwing us all of them are lenny that is an issue for me you're inside a lenny that's next to another lenny should have just not named it lenny no good it should just be citizens that's that's lenny and kenny it's another one a thing that's always rubbed me the wrong way about toontown, though, is Mickey's Toontown. It's Roger Rabbit's Toontown. Mickey is a resident. Roger's the king.

This is a different, I think it's a different Toontown. I think it's like there's multiple Springfields in the world. But isn't that Toontown like the bad Toontown? Mickey's Toontown is Disney Toontown. It's a little wacky, but it's friendly. But they're splitting the difference But I'm saying once you go on the ride It's like the bad part of town or something Like that's the Roger Toontown

But that's just Los Angeles Sure I'm just saying I think that's the Probably the difference they make in their heads Outside it's Mickey's Toontown Inside the Roger Rabbit obviously it's Rogers But then wouldn't that just be downtown LA Because that's where all the warehouses and the judge but it's still a different you have to take the tunnel to get to toontown it's still a separate place that's true it's sort of a north

side south side chicago situation there's friendlier parts and there's less friendly parts sure that's what's happening you don't really go through a tunnel to get to this toontown either though i guess you de facto go under the disneyland railroad but they don't make it look like like they're gonna make horrific 110 uh exit that it was used for they're gonna frightening tunnel frightening tunnel yeah for nintendo land you're gonna go through a pipe i mean that's great very exciting yes oh man there's like a big start button outside supposedly and then there's like a big pipe a green pipe you go through to get into nintendo land and if the rides are broken they just blow on them sure hey i had to couch that in an annoying voice the cat skill i knew it was a little bad wish i could press that start button to uh pause

the people coming into the land because it'd be be so crowded. It's going to be so crowded. It's starting to get scary. Crowd control is not great. No. Write all these jokes down and put it in a set, a stand-up set. The most successful set of all time. And then obviously close with, what? Where do I hear the phone?

So, okay. I mean, you're right that scenes Are not super memorable but fun I don't want to be like a hater I don't hate this I know I feel like this episode has been more negative Than it needs to be I like it but I think we could Like it more it could be bright I'm hoping that I find what I'm

Looking for in the Tokyo version You know there's some cynicism and some Brightness in the movie itself. It feels like a fitting tribute to this world, to the, the characters, to the late Bob Hoskins, which is so great.

Bob Hoskins is so great. Well, I don't think the ride's a fitting tribute to the late Bob Hoskins. I mean, our episode is a fitting tribute to the spirit of the movie. I like him. I just don't think we attributed him yeah i don't think we said barely anything about him i certainly have not said the name bob hoskins the whole time i guess the movie his memory will always remain he's a great

wiley the the the spinning with cartoon spin movie we were mentioning nintendo land oh yeah of course he was famously mario after there'll be a start button and then there'll also be a sign that says in memory of bob hoskins you know like kind of like a little uh shrine like a catholic shrine or something to bob hoskins outside he was very good. He was, he, like Christopher Lloyd, also in this film, so blew my mind as a child. That's all the same guy. Yeah. Doc Brown and Judge Doom and Fester

are all the same guy. Eddie and Smee and Mario are all the same guy. Crazy. These guys were so goddamn good. Yeah, Christopher Lloyd, Rickick moranis like early comedy comedy heroes early camp i really liked camp nowhere like chris verloid's really funny it's like this like weirdo who helps these kids have a camp with no other adult supervision

yeah this episode is a fitting tribute to camp nowhere okay all right it's really fed up well what what else do we got because we do we have a little bit of other stuff to talk about our outro our tribute to ourselves i mean yeah we yeah, we, we, we like it. I just like, I wish there had been more Roger Rabbit. I wish they had come to terms to, to make a full land or continue making movies and stuff with the characters. I wish they would like figure out solutions to like the line or like gussy up the paint of the lights. And I think if,

had there been more Roger Rabbit in the parks, I think that might have encouraged there to be more films. It might have kept him alive a little more. It's like, is there a bigger missed opportunity franchise-wise than Who Framed Roger Rabbit? But isn't Jessica Rabbit merch a thing that does sell?

Yeah, but there's not that much of it anymore. There used to be a lot more, I think, but now I don't even know if i can remember seeing something recently back to betty boop now yeah uh if if you're sexy and into the 40s yeah you want to represent that with a purse that is turned to betty boop i mean one of the things that's stuck around since opening of islands of Adventure. No shortage of Betty Boop merchandise. Yeah, and then that Simon Cowell produced Betty Boop movie, which is true. That's a real thing.

What? Did that happen? No, but I think like a year ago it was like Simon Cowell to produce Betty Boop movie. That's not made up. That's real. Are you going to produce movies now? I guess so. Yeah, so maybe Betty Bo paula abdul's family circus i could pick of no way to top that yeah that's uh with with that roger rabbit's cartoon spin

and if we missed anything uh you uh please let us know because we jumped around a lot but we need to jump to something else something else big oh yeah uh you know i hope i didn't build it up too much and yet there's no way to build it up too much because this is major news uh if you are an avid listener to the podcast uh then you know that we have been tracking for a long time since before the podcast began the opening of jimmy buffett's margaritaville the resort uh in orlando right uh which is not just a hotel but also a timeshare situation like a condo but you can live in the margaritaville resort yeah it's right well like i don't it's clear unclear it's exactly what It now says Margaritaville

Which is good, but then it became Margaritaville Village Which is not good On the website it just says Margaritaville Resort Now, so I don't think The village is being used anymore Which is different than Latitudes Margaritaville Which is like a 55 and older

It's not a retirement community It is a water park slash hotel slash place you can live slash i don't know mud pits have they fixed the mud pits i don't know they're just keeping the houses out of there yeah there's let nature solve the mud pits And then we'll build a house Let the gas station deal with it The adjacent gas station But what is clear is that from We don't even know the name of it Let's you know that they have had some trouble

With the names in this place And in fact they put it out To any Potential condo Buyers which we pretended to be To say Please help us name our streets any potential condo buyers, which we pretended to be, to say, please help us name our streets. This is a year and a half before we start doing this podcast, I think.

And I think I got the email first and it was like, hey, Parrot Heads, we're creating a margarita village in Orlando. Send us some ideas for fun, Jimmy Buffett inspired street names. And they gave us all the different like Avenue street circle, you know, you can do anything you want.

So we got on a text chain with, uh, I won't, I don't know if we were all in the same text chain, but I feel like three of us. And then Anthony Gio past guest, Anthony Gio. Um,

we got to have him on. He's only been on one episode. Yeah, we've only been on that singular episode. It's kind of short changed him by only having him the once. Right. He's certainly not been on a ton of times. So, yeah, the four of us just made up a bunch of names for streets. How many?

A hundred. A hundred. A hundred in total. We all separately. And I remember I was was like i was more unemployed at that moment than i have been in a while and i was like like oh god something to work on i like treated it like an assignment i worked really hard on my names something to do purpose so i'm very fond of these street names for that reason my contributions to the list of a hundred right and uh and we sent

this list and we heard nothing not even they didn't even go that's funny you sent a hundred names i have the um i have the email here hold on one second um i just don't i think it's weird that they didn't go they they acknowledged it but i think they were they didn't go like Oh my god Like that's what I think I was expecting So yeah so here I won't say the name of the person Who sent it to me but it was like Hi Mike it's time for us to begin submitting names For the streets in Margaritaville Resort Orlando I would love to have your creative help

In naming our streets for the resort Feel free to use song lyrics Sea, sun, and ocean themes Or anything that screams Margaritaville lifestyle. Below are some street suffixes to help you complete the names. I really appreciate your participation and input as we create a truly unique destination in Orlando. Fins up. And this is from Tuesday, January 26, 2016.

This is three years ago. Over three years ago. Pre-dating the podcast. We came together cosmically with the magic of Buffett. And when you say suffixes, it's just words like road, way, lane, circle. Bay, boulevard, circle, cove, drive, garden, parentheses S, gardens, lane, loop, parkway, path, place, road, street, trace, trail, and way. Yeah. Now, we posted about this and we talked about it in the Margaritaville sector of the CityWog saga.

Yes. And we tweeted all of the names. I just remembered that we did that. So, you may have read the names. Perhaps we'll retweet them to remind you. We sent them a hundred names and lo and behold, a video is released very recently by the YouTube user, the Tim Tracker.

Clearly there are some people who follow us who also follow him. He goes and tours construction sites sites and very and in theme parks and makes these very exhaustive videos uh somebody on our facebook group uh found a screenshot let me credit that person if i can find it in time uh amanda hasaka uh discussed noticed a freeze frame in this video uh saying uh with the address of the particular location uh the timeshare condo that this guy toured this condo is at 8029 dreamsicle drive dreamsicle drive now i'm looking at the master list on the email number three submitted is dreamsickle drive i mean ladies and gentlemen the quest to name a margarita phil street you know if

if you throw out a hundred darts one of of them's got to land. A thousand monkeys at a thousand typewriters. One of them will eventually type the words dreamsicle drive. Dreamsicle drive. Ladies and gentlemen. Gentlemen. You may now live on dreamsicle drive. Thanks to your friends at Podcast the Ride. Wow.

I mean, it is. We did it. It is. I was going to say, ladies and gentlemen, we got him. Mission accomplished. Yeah. So, Dreamsicle is a song of Jimmy's. Yes.

No, tell me, because I don't know this. I don't know what Dreamsicle is. I know with Saturday Night Live, you're not supposed to take credit for your... They do more now. You take your credit for your sketches, maybe. But like in the old days, I thinkicle drive is mine i would have to be sure that's a deeper level mine was a lot of nonsense because i don't know the actual songs as much but yeah yours this is right at the top of the list as far as they read i think they saw this list and said we got to throw one of these we got to throw these guys a bone what's like this

please let's not have to read this entire thing third one's fine great let's go with it yeah you think it'd be mine because it's pretty close to creamsicle pretty close to the delicious orange flavor treat a creamsicle is a creamsicle oh yes it's a brand you're right it's a different brand it's a brand name basically uh dreamsicle is on the album volcano which you may know that song it's like i don't know where i'm gonna go when the volcano blows you know that one we know that one usually at margaritaville restaurants there's a volcano that erupts like a margarita uh yeah anyway so the song dream sickle is on that album and i won't read all the lyrics but i'll

read the four lines where the where the word dreamsickle appears i shot myself in the foot by you have to hear lyrics you have to although you know what let me i'm gonna go back now four lines okay i got house pets leer jets trying to learn about bass and nets. Oh, miss piggy dance with me. Let me take you to the sea. And then that's the first floor. And then he goes, I'm no longer proud of this accomplishment. dream sickle big dill pickle high school honeys sure were fickle i'll be damned country ham take me back to alabam so that's the is okay is lindsey laughing upstairs she knows dream sickle because edwin is also running up and down the hallway okay she clarified she's not laughing all right fair enough she's laughing running up and down the stairs she i for sure tortured her with dreamsicle before most most days in this apartment mike is reading the lyrics of dreamsicle out loud those lyrics are all over the place even for jimmy

buffett like you could like dill pickle big dle, I feel like is a reuse from Cheeseburger in Paradise universe. From, like, hamburger fixin's details. I don't want a pickle anywhere near a dreamsicle. Do you want to hear the rest of the lyrics? Was he talking about bassinets? We'll make that a Patreon. That's the second game. Did he just have a kid?

Is that why he was talking about bassinets? I don't actually know the history of dreamsicle. okay i should look into it all right back to the lyrics they're not as good as those eight lines but i mean he goes let me tell you now he sips he quips dreams a lot about sailing ships wants to throw it all away wants to have it back someday love's fool sears tool wants to win that football pool span it on some real good grass disappearing oh so fast that's not as good as the other well now sailing a ship is just him going back to the well or in the case of jimmy the bay sure uh going back to the bay yeah i think that of jimmy the bay sure uh going back to the bay yeah i think that's yeah he he look he writes a lot about boats he writes a lot about he writes

about food more than weird al uh that's a thing weird al doesn't make as many albums because weird al has quality control you take that back uh so yeah so dream cycle drive is real we don't i was looking and trying to figure out if this is on google maps yet it is not no none of the streets are and it's only via this video so thank you uh amanda for bringing this to our attention we wouldn't have known to take this victory lap uh if not for this screenshot and also thank you to the tim tracker for exploring an empty condo i also by the way did you guys watch the video i did i i i like i like tim tim is not backpack man i will say this tim seems like a nice man yeah yeah yeah no no he's not as good and thorough and informative

this place looks like garbage i will say that tim seemed very excited about it And I was like This all looks like this is going to fall apart in six months This doesn't look It looks like the town where the Cat in the Hat movie is set It's where the live action Cat in the Hat Well I didn't I actually Margaritaville Enterprises didn't have much to do with it

And we teamed up with a mercurial casino owner And we're just kind of licensing partners These guys named Fuck Jerry built the houses. You'll learn about it all soon in two documentaries. We got three cardboard boxes stacked them on top of each other. You can live

there for 300 grand. Luxury VIP villas. I was ready to suck dick for a margarita. Wait, what? There's in the one Firefest documentary. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a very topical joke. Hey, I haven't watched any documentaries.

I'm sorry. You haven't caught the dick suck man? I haven't caught the dick suck man. Unfollow. Hashtag fuck fuck Jerry. Shout out to Meg Reckons. I'm sorry. That was a good joke.

I can tell now. Unfollow Fuck Jerry. Follow the Tim Tracker and the official Margaritaville Resort Twitter. Yeah. My favorite thing about this video, and we'll post this, is that Tim is so excited about

a strip mall that's being built nearby. Well, to be fair, we talked about the strip mall for about half an hour. That's why Tim is one of us, is what I'm saying. And he's very excited. He's like, oh my God, there's gonna be so many stores here. It's gonna be a wrestler. Wow, a Liz.

Wow. You also keep multiple times in the last few months have been like, this place where I live, this town, Santa Clarita, is really coming up. The next five, 10 years is really shaping up like the next five years to really shape it up nicely i'm not saying i'm not embarrassing too i'm just saying i think it's so funny because he's walking around empty buildings and he's like wow it's gonna be these gonna be restaurants well sure he points out that imagine that you could live next to a spa like a day spa that's your house and then that's a day spa right next to it i have and it's all on creamsicle

drive i have what's it dreamsicle dreamsicle drive like peter parker easy to remember there's parrot perch there's surf's up fitness which looks like a a pretty standard uh like hotel gym yeah just on the site uh there's the saint somewhere spa he's like wow can you believe it like you go to a spa right here it's the saint somewhere spa there's the parakeets kids club not done yet it's just an empty room at this point uh why don't you keep why does this guy run around filming videos i don't know you should nobody should be allowed in here did you catch though what will make this a lot more attractive for scott garner to move in no i don't know what i didn't watch all 18 minutes there is a winery across the street

well well well uh what would jimmy buffett name a wine is there it's not his though it's just a cupcake it's the cupcake obviously but obviously no it would be called the it would be named after his song the win Wino I Know. That's a real song. I didn't make that up. Which is how you describe me in conversation. Yes. That is what I say.

The Wino I Know. Who's Scott Gardner? I don't know him. He's the Wino. Now Lindsay's laughing at Jimmy Buffett content from upstairs. There is a Margaritaville wine subscription club, right? Am I imagining? Oh, is that right?

I think that's... Is that true? The brightest, bluest wine in town. It tastes like salt. It's a hint of lost shaker. Hints of lost shaker. Hints of pickle. A lot of tannins and also pickle.

Do I detect Heinz 57? On the back of the tug. Do you know? There's a little aftertaste. Did you look into what was there before? This like China? Splendid China. Uh-huh.

Which was like owned by China. It was criticized. It was a chinese owned area in orlando was i we have to do a lot more research into this but splendid china was criticized for being owned by the government of the people's republic of china in that officers of the corporation that owned controlled and operated florida splendid china were appointed by the state council of the people's republic of china the critics cited the following specific allegations about the inclusion of minority exhibits and they were protesting it's a lot to read but so the people's republic it was tibet stuff oh my god oh yeah it was yeah so the people's republic of china made a land deal with

margaritaville holding like this is like look at this It's a beautiful Chinese garden. That is really insane. And now it is a bunch of tin boxes. Yeah. Like, they all look like temporary track homes, but like three stacked on top of each other. Yeah, you got to have multiple stories. This is like a demented Tim Burton town. Margaritaville. town the margarita you have to do i have an email address too for um if you wanted to audition to be a performer at like their whatever like their performance space uh and it was so acoustic guitar steel drums a second set of steel drums right uh where'd it go

i'll find it for something just a toucan sitting around so if you're a toucan apply today, like that China store, we got some flack recently because we were revealed we are owned by these Shen Yun people who put up all those billboards. We're on the Shen Yun. We're switching to the Shen Yun podcast network. This is going to be a lot more acrobatics on the show. I know it's tough to do acrobatics audio-wise. Audio, but it is thousands of years of history. It's a proud tradition. You'll hear the fabric flopping around.

It'll work as a podcast. I do think before this place gets blown away by a hurricane, we should try to do a live show in the town square, maybe. With no amplification hurricane florida's seen in 20 years yeah just a strong wind might take these houses away from the look of this okay yes it turns out you cannot uh the parade floats uh cannot fit down the street when people are on it and there are no emergency exits. So again, that's what happens when you partner with a mercurial casino owner. I feel like Jimmy Buffett, much like Lyle Landley on The Simpsons.

I got a suitcase full of money. I'm out of here. See you later, Orlando. And this thing will just fall apart as fast as the monitor will. I got a hiding hole in China. Thanks to my thanks new Chinese friends. I bought all those all those little

castles in the mountains in Turkey that are uninhabited. All of these buildings are all going to get picked up by the wind and carried over to the vacant pool in the Queen of Versailles mansion. It's going to be a big stack of

pink and teal cheap roofing. Now I hear they have great views of the Disney World fireworks at the Queen of Versailles mansion so I guess we have to do a second game episode about the Queen of Versailles mansion. Oh yeah, the Queen of Versailles mansion.

There's a Queen of Versailles themed casino wing. That's what the part of the Star Trek experience became because the queen of Versailles company Westgate bought. So it's very theme park tied in. It absolutely is. We do have to say though, uh, Westgate vacation,

uh, time shares are a great value because, you know, you're only on vacation a few weeks of the year so why would you pay for the whole year people don't get to see their families families being torn apart vacations more important now in the recession than ever yeah we are partially owed westgate vacations and we got yeah we took the westgate money and the shen yun money and we're doing great we're joining joining Buffett in that hiding hole.

And of course, all the royalties that we're going to get from having named Dreamsicle Drive. Yeah, exactly. We're in the money, gentlemen, for sure. I have preemptively burned off my fingerprints just to be safe. Here's my final question. Do we have a lawsuit on our hands Can we sue now For not being compensated for naming this street

We gave that on our own volition I believe But maybe we didn't kind of know the scope of what we were doing Maybe we just thought it was a fun thing And now it is a real thing And like people are living on this street You know they actually are using our idea I think we

may have a case yeah living in your ideas but our idea is what if you named this song that is a trademark of a popsicle company that's true but we have documented proof that it was our idea we do unfortunately

all of the cash reserves for this company is confederate money sorry it's half confederate money and half iraqi dinar i use a shell company to build all this stuff mr trump i'm reading on twitter mr trump's gonna adjust the iraqi dinar and it's gonna be worth a lot of money suddenly i'm pro trump yeah sorry mr trump fix the dinar it is possible that like the people in this in this place wake up one morning and they're just on like land and all the houses are gone because they were picked up in the middle of the night and they just moved them to another country and we're gonna pull the same grift on another set of people he was like what the hell

it's a good way to dispose of dumb people from this because the house is so thin the walls like the sting like a full fake business yeah it's a fake resort and then he has a set he has like 30 helicopters come in and pull the houses up and the people just they put them out and they're just sleeping on the grass i'm taking these to margaritaville abu dhabi yep you guys didn't get the hint when i we played the theme from the sting on all our playlists like a lot we tried to give you a warning one of my favorite things is that in all the houses they have the concoction machine his like 30 margarita maker 30 dot no that's like 300 well i apologize it costs 30 to make oh yeah but if they okay if they gave us each a blender and like filled it with dreamsicles would that shut you up yeah we don't know what i want i think that

they owe us something i guess maybe a lawsuit's not the situation but i think that they certainly owe us at least one concoction maker to split between the three of us the four of us sure yeah um yeah and also we don't know if there are more streets. Here's what I know. I know there are more streets we've seen. I looked at the Airbnb listings or one of the real estate. I was like, let me see every street name. You got your Flip-Flop Way, Sandbar Drive, Shaker Street, Key Lime Loop. None of these were on our list.

Right. Now, we did submit to them seaplane avenue one word seaplane they have sea plane spaced out lane so does that count as one of ours fuck yeah it does pay up margarita that is a better punch up seaplane lane but the core of the idea was oh yeah i mean the real base of the content anybody can punch up a good idea and you know put a little ribbon on it but we gave them the raw meat we need to look at like wga bylaws and use some of the legalese in there yeah and we need to get jack allison and seth simons involved we need to we'll we'll get a big twitter rouse going on

and this will this will end up going our way. All I'm saying is that maybe there are little like sort of courts or cul-de-sacs or like utility entrance for the hotels or something that's named after one of our streets like Ribs Lane or Dill Drive or Lobster Lane. or lobster lane yes look like trucks need to get back and forth and make deliveries and why can that not happen on pelican's beak bay or my favorite uh short street i believe that is yours scott hey all right short street short street can be a gutter that's fine as long as it's getting anybody anything from one place to another be that dirty water or several rats or termites as high if if it's being used to get from place to place it's a street name it short street is deceptively simple and and that is such a a hard thing to do in comedy like everything where it's like oh that was so funny it was so simple has had so much work to it and i feel like it's a gold standard like short street well yeah you

know when i thought of short street i uh i'm you know i'm just you know i i felt like in a in a pretty like top creative time in my life i felt like all the gears were turning and and and i was just open to but you always just got to be open to divine intervention but you know because i don't have the ideas really it's from the lord and the lord gifted me but i was open to receiving short street that's gonna be the type of wisdom that on your uh vanity pseudo-religious website grift uh you start soon when i get to my yeah when you get to your level learn this learn the secrets of succinct funny street names with yeah with with zen master scott yeah we're not gonna tell you street naming we're not gonna tell you what kind of god but like there's a spirituality

yeah aspect and there's whatever it is for you any spirit in this universe can give can bequeath to you a funny street name and if you check out our videos or our articles click the store button while you're there this place don't run for free um so we're feeling great uh and i think it'd be the ultimate trip if uh i mean we're gonna plug the regular stuff check us out at patreon.com slash podcast the ride uh go to go to twitter instagram uh and facebook facebook where you can get great info like screenshots of dreamsicle drive yeah but really the best thing you could do for us would be to buy a condo on dream cycle drive the best way to honor this podcast um i was gonna also say we did this we did this on our hannah barbara episode and i think this is a perfect time to do it again uh if you wouldn't mind rating and reviewing us on itunes but when you're commenting you don't

have to say like how great of a podcast just name name a fictional, like name a Margaritaville Street for us. What would you have named a Margaritaville Street? So flood our Apple podcasts. So it's Hanna-Barbera characters. Well, they're Thai. Like what neckwear they would have. What neckwear they would have. And then now when you're-

Well, for example, this podcast gave me so much joy and relaxed me. So I felt like I was driving down gumbo gardens yes exactly or like yeah i was i was uh hanging out on skipping work circle you know that's that's the type of thing so yeah you would come up obviously read through our hundred and make sure you don't have any duplicates a flash flood washed away cars on gumbo gardens after a faulty drainage a poorly constructed cheaply constructed drainage ditch failed to work properly a tall man leaned on a building and knocked it over the orlando margarita resort exposing a expose who exposing a exposing a woman taking a shower and she went oh a man a man

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