Podcast: The Ride - Sindbad's Storybook Voyage with Lindsay Katai

Episode Date: April 30, 2021

Follow the Compass of Your Heart as Lindsay Katai (Infinity Train, Teen Creeps) returns to the show to discuss this charming Tokyo DisneySea attraction.  Off-Brand Doc Brown episode up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever! Dog! Warning! The following podcast contains a savory pastry with cream chicken, feather-based lockpicking, and the revelation of life's greatest treasure. It's Sinbad's Storybook Voyage with returning guest Lindsay Kaytai. There is no map, there's no chart. It's Podcast The Ride. Welcome to Podcast the Ride, the theme park podcast who seeks great adventure by following the compass of their hearts. Wait a minute, I made a mistake here.

The podcast who seeks boring information about Six Flags great adventure. Sorry about that. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. Now, there are a lot of interesting stuff about Six Flags, though, because, you know, first of all, that's one of the Six Flags with Big Body Water next to it. Of course. It's got a drive-through safari, you know. Of course.

Scott Gairdner, do you also have some information about Great Adventure? Oh, yeah. I mean, there's, you know, there's people out there who've been to Great Adventure and also had Casamigos tequila. They've also drank the tequila that is extremely common everywhere. What? And so that's pretty interesting. You think the same people have been to the theme park and also had this very common tequila they've also drank the tequila that is extremely common everywhere and so that so that's pretty interesting you think the same people have been in the theme park and also had

this very common tequila oh my gosh uh i just realized somebody had sent me like casamigos is expanding their brand into like hot sauces and different flavors like different flavors which is very exciting to me um but we can't take up the episode talking about that we have a true that's insane if that's true. It is true. I have a graphic of it. I'm not exactly sure what the products are. I was just given this graphic by a friend of the podcast, Andrew Grissom.

But again, I can't get derailed looking at this right now because we have so much exciting, positive, uplifting things to talk about today. Follow the compass. Yeah. Exactly. Follow it to positivity. But let's welcome the guest who's very psyched about this topic. You know her from Infinity Train, the podcast Teen Creeps.

She's a podcast that I had favorite, and she's the Sarah Davis to my Uncle Martin Daniels. This is Lindsay Kaytai, ladies and gentlemen. Hello. I don't know what that means. Well, it is- I'm not sure. it took me a sec oh i know jace well jason you please explain the reference well that that's the central love story at the heart of the classic film clifford i see they're like fighting for the whole movie i mean it works out and they works out it's a bad like i don't think this is something you want to be well sometimes when you follow

the compass of your heart there's some swells you know there's pirates yeah things you know love is love can be a little bit rocky sometimes but they end up in a good place. That's why I said it. Yeah. You know, I wasn't trying to be negative. I just need a nightmarish nephew to teach you Jason to make you fight a lot. And then, and then the fighting will stop at some point. Yeah. Jason is a dinosaur ride incident. That's Jason.

I will, for some reason, refuse to recognize the antics of this small man child uh and just be a big pain in the ass that's my whole vibe yes exactly yeah why doesn't she why is she so blind to his hijinkery it's kind of inexplicable. Yeah, yeah. Because he's off, like, even when he's being nice, he's still like a weird little man

in a suit who talks to a dinosaur and uses, like, 1910 phrases. Yeah. Like, yeah, there's no reason she should just go with it. She's maybe the true villain of the piece. That's a good take.

Yeah, yeah, I hear you. I'd have to rewatch the whole thing to see how that lines up, but from the little bits I've watched um and i that i have been piecing out just little bits of clifford clifford has really come to dominate the podcast in 2021 which is a good development for some and some listeners this might be the last straw yeah some people are up some people are upset about all the clifford talk, and I just made it worse. I just threw more wood on the fire. But we can get off that.

We can start talking about the actual topic that the episode you see in the title right now. We should. Well, let me acknowledge one thing, which is that Lindsay's not been on in a long time, and this is the, like, I don't know. How has it been for a year and change not having this podcast interrupt your breakfasts um surreal um just too calm maybe it it's hard to mark the 25 part podcast on the history of the wood used at Disney California Adventure Pier and ranking each plank. Like how how do you pass a year? Yes.

And yeah, we got to do just wood because when you get into nails and bolts, that's a whole other. That's not really what it's about. You can't. Apples and oranges. You can't rake them together. Yeah. And also each bolt affects the plank. So.

So you have to cover them separately and then do an episode about them working in conjunction. Yes. But you guys did get featured in Vulture for that 25 part series so congratulations i think well i think well does i mean it being that it is so essential yes of course we we had to get the write-up obviously so essential that you guys were considered essential workers and you all got vaccinated before in august anyone else yeah in august we've been like pretending like then we get to have an episode where we go hey we're vaccinated we're back in the parks but that ruins the oh i'm sorry i i pulled back the curtain on you guys being basically health care workers that's

right many months ago we're gonna have to cut we're gonna have to cut that this whole part out it's all unusable i'm sorry that sorry to complicate your editing duties, Michael. That's okay. It's fine. There you go, being the Sarah Whatserface of the relationship. Just needlessly complicating things. Sarah Davis, of course. I'm surprised you didn't remember that because I've been calling you that for weeks since we watched Clifford.

I just tune you out. I tune it out okay every time i just go that's probably some fucking ninja turtles thing or something yeah and then i just stopped yeah yeah love means love means occasionally saying yep uh-huh got it said that one already i think yeah jason just wrote a ziggy i wait i wrote a ziggy not a love is well they could maybe both be okay could it be a dilbert i don't know if it can be a dilbert dilbert doesn't have a lot of love in his life yeah like circa 95 but modern dilberts are a lot more edgbert doesn't have a lot of love in his life. Yeah, you're right. Like circa 95. But modern Dilberts are a lot edgier. How about a Lockhorns?

It's such a universal experience that it's all of these. Right. Yeah. I was just going to say, Jason, maybe it's a Lockhorns. Yeah, Lockhorns might be good. I think you just, you know, rework it slightly and then you can send it to all of them, you know?

Yeah, just send it. We'll submit it just to King Features Syndicate. Blank it. And they can use it in whichever one they want. So that'll be good. You put us where you want us. Yeah. Can I say two quick things before we get into the meat of the episode?

Because something occurred to me uh and i think this is you know what we're going to be talking about is one of the most like positive optimistic uplifting experiences in all of parkdom which i'm so happy about and there's two little optimistic things i want to acknowledge to go along with that and ramp up to it uh as people are listening to this april 30th this is the day that this comes this episode comes out is the day that disneyland reopens like we've started to see you know uh cast members and people who know cast members who i'm very jealous of starting to trickle in but today is the day that it's back which it felt like i was worried there were times that i was worried it was not going to happen like the thought crossed my mind like what if this kept going so insane that Disneyland closed entirely and this became condos?

Like that's very insane. But I was worried. What was that? I said that really would be something. I can't. I wasn't worried simply because I can't imagine a world without Disneyland. Yeah. Yeah.

And they have so much money. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and they were like, yes. Yeah. Yeah. And they're like, they would have like personally, they just would have like firing squatted Gavin Newsom themselves in public. And people would have been like,

yeah, I guess do what you got to do. Okay. So we're back in the, uh, back in the green zone. Cool. Yeah.

They would have, I mean, the worst, they would have had to like sell to Tesla or something or sell to any of these big brands. And then Tesla would be running Disney land. Finally, have had to like sell to tesla or something or sell to any of these big brands and then tesla would be running disneyland finally more fires at disneyland and elon elon would have just take he would you know he would say like the rides are good now but they're really gonna be awesome sauce

after we take over he's gonna he's gonna be, whoa, whoa, this Haunted Mansion ride, who made this? What were they smoking? Huh? He would have been like. So random. Yeah, he would have had all these comments from his mind, his genius level mind. Why do they call it Disneyland even though some of it is water? Like 300,000 likes on that for some reason.

Yeah. But he'll do some of this material soon, I think. I think he has a platform coming up. Big New York platform, yes. That's one more bit of positivity, but not yet. We've got to wait another week for that. The other thing I wanted to say, and this is just on a personal thing really quick

i had to share this but just as things start reopening going to places has opened back up and i've been able to do some really fun stuff with my baby son increasingly less babies over a year i don't know if we even call him that now uh we got to go to the zoo which was very magical and you know animals sure whatever but the main thing is uh i now have been on a ride with my son this is a big deal i was so happy um and now we haven't now we should say we're all probably not going to get around to the parks for for a little bit i think it's coming but you know you'll hear us update you about that hey we're back and we did it and it was cool um so it wasn't at one of the big league parks but it's very special anyway there's a place called travel town have you all been to travel

town you're all in the this neck of the woods kind of are people aware of travel town i know it but i actually have not made it over there yeah gotta do it meet us there sometime it's great it's just a place with a bunch of parked trains. And that's all it is. Here's a bunch of trains sitting around. There's a train where the Beach Boys took a photo one time. So that I was happy to see in person, the famous Beach Boys train. But there is famous LA landmark. But there is also a little train that tools around the park, very like classic early Walt Disney style.

And we didn't think it would be open one day. And then we went and it was open. And I ran over to it to a speed that was maybe dangerous to the child. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. A ride. We did it. Huge smiles, big smiles, laughter for the entire first lap.

Second lap, he kind of freaked out and got bored and then cried as soon as we got off of it. But there was one very successful lap of a ride with my kid. This felt like just a big moment for me as a dad and a ride aficionado. It finally all came together, so I just wanted to share that special moment. Congratulations. Congratulations. That's big. That's early, too.

I have been there. I have been there because we went for Owen Dennis's birthday. My boss, my former boss, the creator of Infinity Train, we went to Travel Town for his birthday and we sat in a little car. Did you not get on the train, though, to celebrate Infinity Train? Wait, what? I'm saying if there's a train there to celebrate Infinity Train,

you should have ridden the train with, dear. Well, I think maybe I did, or maybe it wasn't running that day. I forget. But there was a little train, and there were a bunch of trains, and we rented a train car to have his birthday meal in. Wait, I don't think I know about the rental of the train cars.

Or I'm thinking someplace else entirely. Where is this place? That might be right. It's in Griffith Park, not that far from the Disney studio. You can see it from the 134 freeway. Yeah, I think that's it yeah yeah confusingly there's some other little train place that is not affiliated with travel time but next to it so maybe it could have been that maybe i was at the unaffiliated uh train

the other one which who know i don't know why they are like did they get along or are they enemies it's weird that there's two train parks next to each other. They were started by a pair of brothers. Yeah. There's fierce competition. Two brothers. Their difference was like, should the train go clockwise or counterclockwise? Mm-hmm.

I'm going to fight over that. I believe at Halloween, they turn that little train into a ghost train and then they just fill it with like kooky spooky stuff uh the whole route because i i saw that uh i went to a few years ago uh la haunt bony island set up right next to travel town and it was awesome they went all out i saw a number of listeners at this event and as i was leaving i was like oh wow that ghost train looks awesome but it was halloween and was sold out it was totally booked so hopefully this year they're

both back you know all this kind of like fun little cute stuff i am so in on every bit of it this year i haven't done any of these griffith park trains in the recent past and it's boy this is gonna be the whole rest of the year as little trains now wow five years as little trains made me so all about train that's that's great train podcast now you can get him ready for haunts you know get him ready for haunts at an early age which will be nice. So he'll be like vaccinated against like haunted train stuff. And by the time he gets to our age, he's going to be like the king of haunts. Well, yeah, if I could have a kid, if I could like kind of thicken the skin so that he's not like me slash us.

And it doesn't take him decades to never to get comfortable with i want him to be ahead of it and be like a bully making fun of kids who are afraid to make fun of young me his young dad yeah that's that's that's where i want to go so far the other direction you want to like a boy named sue him oh no that doesn't sound good i don't remember all the ins and outs of those lyrics but it's probably not really he just he named his son sue so that he'd have to fight his whole life that's it uh well that's it hmm i i guess i if i really wanted this trajectory yeah i could have gone with sue. I didn't go with Sue. But look, a lot of trains in the future.

Maybe just a... Could be like a full train podcast. Maybe I just need to spin off into a little trains podcast. I bet Jason's going to come along with me. Oh, little trains. That's good. Good title. I would have put $100 on Jason doing the first Little Trains podcast.

I know. I got to look through all the trademarks I've registered to make sure I haven't already secured Little Trains. Scott's going to have to buy that from Jason. Yeah. Domain squatting. Oh, no. Little Trains dot train. The barely used dot train suffix.

Wow. So that's great. Magical stuff. I thought that news would fit into an episode about even more magical stuff, which I'm so happy to talk about for a while with you guys. Yes. So we are talking today about a ride you can only experience uh at tokyo disney sea um and it is top one of our top favorite top three favorite rides i don't know it's called sinbad storybook voyage and it's something we went into completely cold we didn't know a thing about it uh again podcast friend andrew grissom said you gotta do sinbad we went on sinbad

and uh it was as magical a time as like going on a ride for the first time when you're a kid like a child we felt like children being on this ride and discovering what it was uh you know as it went uh yeah so we've all three of us have been on it jason has watched youtube videos i assume yes i i watched it a number of times this morning and i have to say it is one of the rare rides where it's like oh this is moving just on video like this is i mean an emotional year and a half or so you know uh uh so kind of primed for it uh was a little yeah worn out going to two grocery stores yesterday like a little like uh uh so i guess i was kind of in the anything can set me off these days but uh certainly this in a good way did yeah um i

completely agree i don't know that and this we've talked a little bit about like weird like weird times when you go like am i emotion am i getting emotional with this uh we've done a little bit like we talked a little bit about it in the frozen episode at the let it go part, which, uh, I think, yeah, I agree with Scott on that. Uh, but like this ride,

I think it was the second time we wrote it. We're like in the soaring part. And again, I'm getting, I'm all over the place. The song itself is unbelievably good. It's an Alan Menken song. Uh,

there's a soaring song that makes it the song. Yeah. The ride. Yeah. A hundred percent. The ride is very good on its own it's a cute fun little time but that song before the the singing even starts yeah song had me yes um and there's like a soaring part of the song and i think it was the second time we wrote i think we wrote it like four times maybe the soaring part of the song and i think it was the second time we wrote i think we wrote it like four times maybe the soaring part of the song i start to go oh my god it's like i have some like sense memory

or some memory of from being like six and going on this ride and i'm like why am i so moved by this the room where the like giant is playing the bass like why what is this doing to me? But yeah, there's something about that song that makes this thing extra special. I cried again watching the YouTube videos this morning. And then because I cried because of that, I was like, oh, I bet that Tokyo Disney Resort 35th anniversary theme song still makes me cry. And so I went and listened to that and it makes me cry even more because now the lyrics take on this extra poignancy because of the last year of lockdown and not being able to go to the park because it's all about like, hey, hasn't it been a while since you've come on down and played with your friends? And I'm like, yes. Yes, I totally agree. We had a very nice magical time at Tokyo Disney,

and that was the anthem playing, like maybe immediately as we got to their main street. Yeah, it's playing in the monorail area even. I don't know. Do you guys know? Have we played that song for you? Yes. Yeah, yeah.

I think so. I don't remember if it was, I don't think this was going by the time i got there and i think we've been retired i mean we should probably play a little snippet of i don't know what the rules are as far as how much song we can play really but we've broken those we like hear about that in the moment yeah long things all the time you are correct and you know well just take it down just nicely just two little two little some this is the song lindsey's talking about brand new day uh i believe right yeah

it's a it's in the second verse where they said like hasn't it been a while since you've played with your friends? All right, I can fast forward. Difference between this and the song in Sinbad, though, this is in English. Compass of your heart in the ride is 95% or more in Japanese. Yeah, they only say compass of your heart in English. Yeah. Here we go. It's ramping up. your world can play inside this is the story that will rise these are your friends they light the

way a different adventure brand new day these are the players this your stage the thrill of a future bright and brave the rush of a magic memory made the party that starts to celebrate This is where the listeners think this is insanity. Probably. Or not. I mean, if anybody's not going to think it's insanity, it's your listeners. Yeah, well, true. I mean, yeah, if you wandered into this podcast today, you're probably like, these are for lunatics. What's, like, what is...

Like, these people need therapy, and you're right. That song, yeah, and that, like, that song, like, you're like, I guess it's okay. It sounds like, I don't know, is it even recorded very well? I don't know. No, it makes me cry. It makes me cry every time I hear it. And it really makes me cry when it gets to the chorus. But then when I was listening to it today, the lyric is, I think, like, it's...

I mean, all right, here, I'll just play it. Hasn't it been a while? Like, you... The world is gonna change. The world is gonna change. Sure, yeah. It's gonna make you smile. Here it is. The world is going to change. The world is going to change. Sure. Yeah. It's going to make you smile. Here it is.

Here it is. I know you haven't come to party in a while. There's a million reasons why. I know you haven't come to party in a while. That's a party in a while. Right? You haven't come to party in a while. Right?

It's too applicable. That's a, that's one of the funny. Two of the moment. Cultural moment cultural differences i think is like saying like come and party i think is much more of an innocent fun thing in japan versus here where it sounds like you're gonna go get loaded at disney like maybe yeah more of your body lyrics that contain nothing not one sliver of an offensive word what is this phil i mean like i am a fan certainly offended by the use of it i'm just saying i think it's maybe a difference a different word usage there uh so yeah that's that's one of the things and i think it's partly

that's that's burning our brain because yeah it was like literally we got into the main street and there was like explosion of like confetti and the songs playing and we're like people ran to come see it yeah um so anyway that's that was again you can go back and listen we did an episode about our tokyo uh disney trips both lindsey and i and then a different episode with scott so well let me say that because uh so you guys did a tokyo episode and i was i was too strict about spoilers and i physically left the episode that was the plan it was not a storm out i think you were just strict enough um i think well i'm glad i was because it was it is the rare occasion like to get to go on rides where i truly don't know what's going to happen um now the sinbad thing i think because uh aaron my wife did listen to the episode and when we got

to sinbad i sort of knew what i knew that sinbad was full of animatronics um and a boat ride i wasn't going in totally blind but she said yeah i think the thing is there is this song there is a song in it and the song is is very emotional. And I was like, we'll see. We'll see how emotional this song makes me. And I think as soon as the boat took off, I was tearing up. I don't think there was one lyric yet. And somehow Ice and then watching the video just did it again. And we're just going to have to analyze why.

Because I think, you know, to some listeners, it might be inherent. It might be you might. But I do think that the experience is part of it. And I have theories as to the what is so emotional about all this. But we can get into it. I turned to Mike like maybe a minute into the ride and I was like, have we is this song from something? Why do I feel like I've heard it before? So my theory is just having that all of us having been raised on

specifically the Disney music of Alan Menken and Howard Ashman, we are primed to like connect to the musicality. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's gotta be part of it that it's like it's you know it's in this it's got the same dna as all the stuff we were raised on all the disney songs for sure that has to be part of it um but yeah there's an extra little x factor here we'll play a little bit of it

so you know we're talking about there's there's like piece there's different pieces of it and this is like this is what you hear kind of right when you get on the boat uh here we go i can see scott's like i can see it affecting him in a little window. I don't want to look at the window. I don't want to see what I'm doing. I don't want to see what you guys are doing. It's too vulnerable. Yeah.

I'm nervous. I don't want this to be an episode involving tears. I can see it off our cameras. Yeah, really? I can see it. So like, that's,

that's what happens right away. And I think immediately you're kind of like, this is a big deal. Whatever's about to happen is a big deal whatever's about to happen is a big deal this is important what we're doing here weeping and and epic and majestic it's just it's true it is the beginning of something yeah you know what does it for me horns in general like there's so many uses of horns that will just uh have some physical effect on me and i and the horns i feel like it's french horns probably probably a mix of things but that

when that little i think that takes you back to the beginning of beauty and the beast and it is like which you never get to experience again for the first time you can only have seen beauty and the beast for the first time once and this is almost like it's a new beauty and the beast unfolding and you had to come into a specific place across the globe to see it and you're exhausted you're worn down and it's in japan is such a crazy fun adventure to go do but it's not relaxing in any way it's like an agitated go go go holy shit kind of trip um so by the time you get here which was like towards the end of the trip for me and it's all been so magical i hate boy there's there's a lot feeding into it the yeah i just want to shout out those woo like those

those woos something about those are like very spooky but like uplifting that i think is another one of the main components of like this making like chills run down your spine we're gonna say so many embarrassing things in the next so many minutes i'm realizing now i i mine and kelly's podcast is a maybe like more emotional. Like we're probably like, I don't want to get super like stereotypical, but we are two women and we're maybe a little more open and vulnerable. So I've cried a fair number of times on a Teen Creeps episode. Like we read Neverending Story and we were reading some passages from it. It's a very touching book and i like couldn't get through it because i was crying so for me i'm like yeah it's totally normal we're just gonna like cry over us in bed song and we all get it well we're three tough

stereotypical men who are uh trying to to have an aura of, you know, of strength. So we're going to try to maintain that. Such hard asses. Three traditionally masculine men. We are three hard asses. What's on your head right now as you say this, Mike? Can you just describe? I am wearing what is it called, Jason? A gator?

I think it's a gator, right? Yeah. This is for like athletes, Scott. You got to know this. I'm wearing a thing to keep. Brawny, strong, emotion-free athletes. My hair is very long right now, and sort of to keep it up, I've been wearing this gator given to me by my friend John,

who was on Survivor, and it says Slamtown on it. Slamming is pretty masculine. It's not much more masculine than slamming yeah so uh all right pumped up the testosterone here no way we're not gonna cry in this episode what do you mean no way it's not gonna happen anyway back to the song and everybody just like just like grimaces and tries to grit really like i re-watched the i re-watched alan menken's performance of it oh i have it d23 that one makes me just weeping because everybody in the audience is weeping too scott you've seen this clip i assume right i have i don't want to go against you there is something

i the alan menken performance does not do it for me as much. And I think why is that I love, first of all, I love the singing voice of Sinbad, the protagonist in the ride. And I think I prefer it. And as much as like an acoustic performance, you know, should do it for me.

I think that switching it back to English kind of undoes the mystery. I sort of like not knowing what the words are of this song. That's making me so emotional. Like I think that because you can like almost apply anything to the to the japanese lyrics which i don't if you speak japanese and you can't apply anything to it but i don't know what they're singing about until they say compass of your heart which has some like innate power to it like that it's the only english in yeah i i don't i don't with that, but I think that what I'm responding to actually even more

is that he's playing it at Japanese D23 in, I think, 2018, and he says he's never performed it before, and they cut to the audience, and people immediately are freaking out. They're gasping. Their hands are going up to their face. And he's playing it, and there's just like women like

sobbing everyone's like you can see like this is real this emotion is real yeah yeah there's a shot of one person and they're just like serenely smiling and noddling along and then you realize they have a sorcerer mickey like propped on their lap like a sitting child. And you can just tell it's the happiest moment. And it, yeah, you can feel the energy. I think the lyrics in English are very beautiful, but I agree.

I understand that like, oh yeah, there is a certain mystery. In the full. Yeah, I for sure hear what you're saying, but, but hearing the lyrics in English for me had the opposite effect.

And I did feel like, oh, I've been hearing this song since I was a child. This is making me feel like I felt when I was a child. But I was 36 when we went and heard this song for the first time. I would never take away the emotion that you guys are experiencing. For whatever reason, I don't get us on board. But yeah, we can all play. We all get something out of it. Do you want to play

more? I don't think we've said what the hell the ride is. I know. We've been focused 100% on the emotions the song evokes. I think the song is a big part because this ride

is kind of new-ish. Like, this version of the ride only dates to 2007. Yeah. And that's when you get the song. It's when you get a lot of the cute little stuff. We haven't even mentioned Sean Dew. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think we'll play this song just so everybody who doesn't know anything about

this has sort of the vibe in their head and then we'll start describing sort of everything yeah um there's two key parts just real quick i want to play this is sort of the start of when sinbad uh starts singing uh and then i want to play that thing i mentioned the soaring part which just i will uh hopefully not lose it. I believe in that. You see, there's a cute banter. He's talking to the people in the village. He's talking to Shandu. And that's great.

I believe at this point when we were on the right, I'm sure I said this last podcast. I think I turned to you, Lindsay, and I said, i really like i like this sinbag guys you were just like i'm really like i like sinbag i like his energy kind of a statement yeah i like he just seems like a good guy yeah i was like really like immediately charmed by him and his attitude i was like i like this guy there's something about this guy uh and that's definitely captured there and then this this is the uh later in the in the ride this is sort of the soaring part i'm talking about Yeah, so I got like little bumps on my arm listening to that.

Man, it's crazy. It's crazy, ladies and gentlemen. And now that I know the English lyrics, I like definitely remember what it is he's singing at that point. Sure. So yeah, so that's the vibe vibe that's what you're hearing the whole time it's it's looping around there's one other little section that's like when they're

in like the jungle that part is the least good part as far as music is concerned no offense to it it's just like kind of nothing it's like the instrumental part yeah it's just a lot of like drums and so but it's it's it's a small world style, and maybe the rare thing, maybe I can't think of anything, maybe since it's a small world that's brought that back, where there's a song looping for the entire trip. Yes. And where it's a boat ride with seven to nine big set pieces,

big set pieces, as we can say uh and the it's it's a seamless transition in in and out of different parts of the song they've just like queued it up really perfectly where you're you're always somewhere in the bed of that song for this very long attraction i feel like this can take you know 15 minutes depending on the speed of the boats. And yeah. And it's like the difference, even, even your best classic dark rides. I probably like, I might get a little like sleepy in certain sections, but because of the song, I feel like there's not a part of the ride where I'm like, man,

this is the weak part of this. I do really, I think, I don't know that they could like put any sort of animatronic, any type of ride over this song but it's possible they could have done like a just put like uh you know i'm trying to think like a peer level attraction with that song if they put this into the the new journey into imagination where he where the figment farts or whatever and uh the toilet on the ceiling but you hear like life is the greatest dad like yeah i think you'd be like well that doesn't make much sense but i feel really

good this is making me maybe it is the toilet on the ceiling that's making me feel really good i don't know i like this figment guy i just think he's got a good heart Life is our greatest That might do it That might ruin it If Figment was singing I think probably the song would be affected By the person singing it But if Dreamfinder Is singing it maybe

I can see him having A Kenji style voice Sure so that might Possibly the singer of of compass of your heart there's a lot of crossover i think between this ride and original journey into imagination and the way people feel about it where uh it is this specific thing in this specific location never got cloned in another park uh that people just have really special heartwarming feelings about and it about and where there's like a little critter. There's a little critter

who's really popular in the merchandise and deservedly so from this one specific ride. Yes. Yeah, there's for sure the parallels there. That of course is Shondoo. We mentioned him earlier. Did we say he's a little baby tiger?

He's a little baby tiger wearing that little baby tiger wearing a little baby turban yes and a little bell in the front um this adorable so so cute this is the cutest thing that's a lot of the emotion too instant lovability i was taking photos of him just in the queue there's just uh you know like drawings of him up in the queue where you're getting a hint at the kind of thing that he does, which is mainly, despite being very cute, keeping bad guys in line. So somewhere in the line, there is him pulling, kind of biting the fabric of somebody who's up to no good. And like, okay, so he's cute, but he's also feisty. This is good. He's the

enforcer the most adorable little enforcer you've ever seen he's like uh yeah he's like mike i'm breaking bad he's uh yeah who's like sweet emotions for as it goes yes um the okay uh let's cliff notes the ride not like like scene by scene, but just basically, you know, Sinbad's off on a journey. He like leaves his port town and goes to all these different little islands and on different little quests and then returns triumphantly a hero having done hacks, acts of heroism throughout his journey. This is all conveyed via like 150 audio animatronics right something so many it is so many um yes great movement these things really move yeah yeah it's no it's a small world in that regard yeah extremely um mixed with gigantic animatronics which i'm sure that we will highlight but like you think that you know you think you get what it is okay it's it's a little mixed with gigantic animatronics, which I'm sure that we will highlight.

But like, you think that, you know, you think you get what it is. Okay, it's a little, it's a doll ride. Like, it's a small world. But then you round some corners to see some of the most jaw-dropping animatronics ever built, just massive in scale. Yes, it is like, I'm trying to think, I don't know if that was done on purpose,

but yeah, yeah, it throws that surprise at you because as far as scale is concerned, it's very rare I feel like the parks where you turn a corner and it's like, oh, wait, they can do this? Oh, okay. I got it.

I guess there's a bird that's pretty big earlier than the scene you're talking about, but mostly, yeah, mostly... It's kind of like approaching Ursula in Ariel's what is it called? Undersea Adventure? Mm-hmm. But that was, of course, built after

the Sinbad, right? Yeah. And Ursula is obviously very impressive, but Ursula's probably what? She's no ogre. Seven feet? Yeah, seven feet tall? Six feet? She's also like she's further ogre seven feet yeah seven feet tall six feet she's also like she's further from you she's not moving as much she's not as expressive when you go under that hurt that is jaw-dropping like like getting to see kind of all angles of it it's really cool yeah so it's sort of this like it's this like very heartwarming boat ride about a guy going on journeys all over the world and being very supported by the people back in his town.

They're so excited for him. Yeah. I mean, like we could seen by seeing it a little more, but like, that's, I think, where the emotion comes in for me is the like, OK, so we know that Sinbad's going to go on an adventure. Is he going to be we don't know what we're going to encounter. What does that mean? Do we see like one solitary boat and this guy's piloting it around? And instead, what we see is this vibrant community where everyone is so happy and everyone has their purpose everyone has their role and these people are bringing food to other people

and these there's entertainers and people making shadow puppets and people operating the lamp to help the shadow puppets get made but they're all united in wishing sinbad good luck on his journey and maybe you have to be there to understand why this notion is so emotional it's just so everybody's just because he doesn't really have a mission beyond just i'm going exploring and of course these are based on like uh very old stories in which it was not heartwarming they were just adventures and he was kind of a dick, and his crew was a bunch of assholes who were just like trying to steal treasure. And of course, there was an earlier iteration of the ride that was a lot closer to the original tales. And in

the original ride, it was just a community. That was just where he was from and it showed the people of the town and then when they retooled it with the music then it's a the whole dang town is celebrating sinbad and his amazing adventure they're just so happy for him to be going out and seeing the world. And it's not like he's, it's not, there's not an aspect to the story where it's like Sinbad's going to save us all or like Sinbad's going to find the answer. And we're all depending on Sinbad. It's just like,

Hey, do you hear Sinbad's going on a boat with Chandu? Cool. Let's go out and see him off with a bunch of banners and singing it's just so delightful well what they realized and if you read any blog post or wiki or any sort of thing about this ride everyone makes sure to mention it's like okay first off you need to know one thing the greatest treasure it's friendship okay that's the starting place and that is kind of like the thesis of this ride and i think why it it you know the vibe just changed so wildly the song was added chan do was

added and like i i was saying before we started recording the original ride which opened with the park sinbad seven voyages everyone everyone just looks is just unhappy to see you everyone's pissed but yeah because sinbad see yeah they're he's like him and his crew are trying to get treasure like and in this he's helping everyone and he's making new friends he teaches a bunch of monkeys how to rock you know yeah that's the thing is the song becomes his his ticket into every community he encounters yeah yeah like

it's a beautiful message yeah there's the to show like the juxtaposition between the two versions the original version and the newer version it's like in the original version the mermaids were like luring them to the rocks to like kill them. It's a very traditional idea of

what mermaids did. They were, you know, sirens. They sang and they were gorgeous to try to entice ships to rocky areas so that they would die. Yeah. Not in this version. Not in this version. They're friends. They're just more friends in this version and they tell you where to die. Yeah. Not in this version. Not in this version.

They're friends. They're just more friends in this version and they tell you where to go. Yeah. It's very funny that that was kind of universal across the ancient world and that it shows up in the Iliad.

It shows up in 1001 Nights. But here, we flip it on its head and it's like, there's just more friends telling you which direction to go you know everyone's a friend everyone's nothing but making friends on this ride i love all that about just supporting the the journey he's going on a trip and we have to

be we should all be happy for him and on a personal note i might have said this before when i came back from japan i don't recall but how i felt because I had this unusual experience of like, no matter what, going to this park that I dreamed of going to for so long was going to be great and doing it with my wife. And like it was this was there was this was always going to be wonderful. But then that I would like post pictures throughout the day and then I would get feedback from our listeners cheering us cheering aaron and i on wow go scott nothing but positive like so insanely positive and i'm like that's the that's the town the town is cheering me and my journey on it and not only that the other thing that occurred to me about why like the whole the city supporting each other kind of vibe, that's Japan. That from my experience over those couple weeks of everything else in Japan, Japan is as nice and friendly as Sinbad's town.

So you've already been living in that love, like the kindness of strangers for 10 days or whatever. And then you get this little depiction of it. I think that's why the town, the supportive town resonates so much. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm trying to think. You compared the opening to Beauty and the Beast. And I'm trying to think. Beauty and the Beast is really beautiful and it's fun and the town looks nice.

But everyone's like being real dismissive of Belle for the most part. Like, oh, look at her. That weirdo. Like there's none of the. She's so pretty. Why she got to read? Oh, come on. Enough with the reading, Belle.

Like it's so beautiful. But like there's some negative. There's a lot of a lot of negativity. Also, it finds her people like here's like here's the bookstore guy and here's the people i get along with and they get me but it's not everybody some of the other people are nice but they don't get me and that's a little more i think what america's like maybe you gotta watch out watch out for these people but then there's some of the best, nicest people you're ever going to encounter. Whereas, yeah, maybe Japan

and Sinbadstown, maybe it's like, I should assume this person's a friend. Easier to assume, maybe. Yeah, so that's, yeah, it's like, I guess there was, you know, maybe like a note in your head of like, oh, let's make it like Beauty and the Beast, but not so

negative. Wow. Yeah, they fixed the one well you don't need you don't need conflict in an 11 minute ride necessarily i was just about to say it's like i look i love a story with high stakes and conflict and darkness if you've seen infinity train you know that about me i write yes i i wrote a show for children that was like scary and upsetting but sometimes you just want a story where everybody likes each other and has a good time and sings a song. Yeah. It's just that is that a positive adrenaline shot the whole time, like the whole rise.

So like, yeah, we're, we're kind of going scene and scene here. Like basically like you're coming, kind of coming in at the end of adventures a lot. Like it's almost like the adventures, like kind of wrapping up Sinbad has one,

he's one people over. If the bad guys are bad guys, they have something comical has happened to them. Like there's a scene where they're one of them is in like the talons of a giant bird. Like another one, like fell upside down into a giant egg and his little feet are kicking around.

Yeah. So it's like this, this guy is like, he's just, he comes into a situation, he fixes it. Uh, and now he's celebrating with his magical,

uh, song. And that's sort of the format in most of those scenes. Yeah. And yeah, you know, to, to explain the difference between the two versions,

which we have a little bit, um, you know, you don't, there's no difference in the two versions, which we have a little bit, you know, there's no difference in the locations. Like, the locales never change. The basic places that Sinbad goes,

we go to this island where there's big birds, and we go visit a giant. But the dynamic shifts in every single one of them, they are all about making friends, as opposed to a lot of the scenes seem to be about bad stuff is happening and you're going to narrowly escape the bad stuff. And in that way, it's kind of an awkward mix of cute figures like it's a small world. But if they were all doing bad things to each other all around the world and that's where you left it,

like, oh, no, Italy's on fire um can we help them no all right they're on their own we came in just as uh hitler was invading france and we're like well see you best of luck with that it's a little cute doll hitler but still it's still the stakes are real for them yeah cutest hitler and another another thing like it's a lot of the same audio animatronics too and you if you if you go back and watch the one that was there from 2001 to 2006 you like and then you watch the current one you recognize all of them they may be some changed entirely i don't know but you seem to you kind of go i know that guy i know that guy mostly they just took away facial hair.

Yeah. Which is weird. We haven't talked about that one. In a very Disney classic fashion before the new rules, they made Sinbad remove his facial hair. The old world order. Yes, Walt's ghost came to the Imagineers

and he said, I know what to do to fix this ride. Take the boy's facial hair away. Bearded animatronics are evil. That's the rule. We all know Goatees are of the devil. The devil has a Goatee. Sinbad shouldn't have one.

The way I feel. The presidents with beards are all the evil ones. That's right. And the ones without hair are all good. Nixon didn't have a beard. Now he takes credit for fixing the ride, and everybody's like, well, I think it was more the song. And he's like, nope, facial hair. Entirely 100% that evil beard.

But they also, like something that I don't think is acknowledged, and I don't have tangible proof of this, but I do feel like you guys talked about the animatronics moving very very smoothly and i agree with that and i think if you watch the old one they're a little jerkier like maybe there's more going on they actually might be like more advanced animatronics in that way that that johnny depp moves a little more or trump moves a little more and i just listed two of the creepiest animatronics that really went for it we're probably applying our feelings about the real life people to it a little bit but i regardless i'm like yeah maybe a little too much movement going on and i think that was maybe true of these old some of some of these older characters and one place that i noticed it is uh like belly

dancing there's belly dancing uh going on on kind of at the beginning and the end um and for some and i watched the original version i'm like why is this like creepier to me originally and then they still dance in the the new one why is it not and i think it's like i think that like the dancing is just like more manic it's just like a crazier dance and then they're uh just surrounded by people just staring down at the belly dancer's body whereas now it's like the person's dancing but they're kind of on their own they're just like they're off having a they're just well it's less like spirits it's less for the male gaze perhaps than it is just for the celebration of dance yeah Yeah, I think so. I think they just want to dance,

and there's no odd little crowd too close. They gave the dancers some space, and I think that's good. But just truly, and we'll get to it with the monkeys, but big time the monkeys move crazily in the old one, and then they've kind of toned it down. It's probably also just that the you know they're newer animatronics and maybe you can be more subtle um you know the you know

what's like a very realistic animatronic but that isn't well it's a little creepy maybe but the the shaman of song the shaman of song is smooth the movement doesn't freak me out about the shaman maybe in general the shaman is a little creepy little creepy, but there's fluidity for sure. So wait, Scott, you're saying you like the shaman? I don't know if I'd go that far. I guess technically. Oh, man. Uh-oh.

You've really backed yourself into a corner here. Do I like a guy? I've been hiding it this whole time. I love the shaman of song. All right. Thank you. It've been hiding it this whole time i love the shaman all right thank you it's been my desktop this entire time you can appreciate the shaman of song while still feeling like kind of an uncanny valley feeling about the shaman well you know what it is actually it just occurred to me it's the uh it's the the big stuff in small rooms it's that thing rearing its head as

has as it has in many episodes i think if the shaman of song was a open air uh just like with the sky above it that'd be fine but it's a very tall creature not a problem in sinbad i mean there's big characters in sinbad but most of them are extremely small so oh man I can't wait for you to ride this new ride everyone's talking about and we'll get some real good feedback on that I'm sure you'll be on it soon enough pets yeah pets

pets yeah so there's a big there's a big pet oh boy you have no idea wow Jason got to see the big pet before us I'm very jealous of Jason's big pet. Oh man. Yeah, that's interesting. I want to make a quick comparison though.

And obviously it's not quite as good as the song here though. But I will say the Na'vi Shaman of Song song is similar, kind of haunted our vacation much like Sinbad haunted. That is true. Where it's like, that's a new song you've just heard and maybe it's just me but i constantly was singing both songs the rest of our trip it became uh one of the other an additional theme of the trip yes so i will say i have zero emotion ascribed to the Shaman of Song song.

I did not. Yes, I did not cry about the Shaman of Song. And it doesn't do the same thing for me. But it did become a theme. But it definitely wormed its way into my head. And I was using it as a weapon the rest of the trip. That's true. Every time I would forget it, it got brought back.

I don't know. Oh, God. i'm so sorry um this song i kept just like yeah like just like getting going to the airport and getting on the plane i just kept like anything that felt like part of a journey i would uh do this refrain even though it was the opposite where like i i think sinbad was kind of happy to be going home because you know like he had a good thing going back there Even though all the adventures were fun We were so sad to leave Japan

Dear God I did not feel the joy of this song Leaving DisneySea Right And yes Not the same as you leaving Orlando the last time Thinking of the shaman That was the refrain that was supposed to like

keep me back that was supposed to like no no no don't go yeah it didn't didn't do the trick for me right neither did well maybe dude did you do you have the same effect though did the uh the baja men did the baja kind of were they like Was that like a siren song for you Calling you to stay in Orlando forever I mean kind of Crash yourself on the rocks of Orlando The sirens The Baja Men calling to me

Enticing you from a Shirtless on a rock Just the idea Just the idea That you can see that list of bands that plays epcot every year in orlando does make me go wouldn't be bad wouldn't be bad to live 20 minutes and head over here a couple times a week and see see the bomb and see uh uh third eye blind and smash mouth and oh yeah You can't see Sugar Ray anywhere else.

They're very, that's the rarest appearance that they make. Even though we have seen them two times. This was a revelation in an episode. Lindsay, you too? You've also seen them twice? Oh, yeah. We went to, the first one was Summerland, or was that the second one? I can't remember which one was which.

It was the Summerland tour, and I can't remember the name of the next one. It was Sugar, the first year it was Sugar Ray, it was Everclear, it was Lit, it was the Wallflowers, and then one other band that I'm trying to remember. Marcy Playground. Marcy Playground who opened. Marcy Playground? No, Marcy Playground. Marcy Playground.

Yeah. My mother's name is Marcy also. So that was a big thing in the house. Yeah. When that band was around. It was a great time to be on Marcy. Yeah. And we, yes, that was, what, over 1997, 98?

And I think we were like, oh, Marcy Player and Good. Then Lit hit the stage, and we were like, whoa, Lit is good. I was like, oh, I forgot that I really liked Lit as a teenager. They were just like, you know, people were trickling into Greek theater. It wasn't even like it was full yet because it was a you know a big festival of music and uh lit was bringing it like they were really like they didn't care that they were playing second on the bill and we were like oh that's pretty good wow lit was and uh you would say yeah lit was lit i would say that and uh and then sugar ray closed that time and uh ever clear not so good uh

like audio wise they were not bringing the energy sugar ray however sounded fantastic and mark mcgrath a very charming band leader like just really he like he knows what he is, and he played it to perfection. Like a 90s Mike Lowe. Like, self-effacing, like, funny. Making fun of himself and Sugar Ray. It was a good time. I'm scanning the sincerity irony meter, and I'm landing at sincerity. Oh, yeah.

No, sincerity. He was, like, making fun of himself and him being like the fact that this tour existed he was like he goes yeah you're here to see like douchey sugar ray and yeah and we were all like ha ha ha we are

here to see douchey sugar ray thank you mark we're all friends here thank you so much those singles are good I maintain those singles are good i i maintain those singles are good uh i like how you call mark mcgrath a band leader as if he was like xavier james brown i mean can you argue with his no yeah um so yeah then we then we went back the next year and smash mouth was on the tour and I believe they closed. Well, of course. Yes. And Gin Blossoms was there and that was fantastic. They were there both years, I believe.

Oh, okay. I believe Gin Blossoms repeated. Right, we've talked about this recently. Repeated, yeah. But there, yeah. They got those- And Fastball. Fastball was great.

Fastball was there, yes. A couple songs I like a lot of as far as Fastball. All right, the audience wants to hear it. And you guys, you two, you guys went to Sturgurgis right last year to see smash last year yeah you went to the motors like and it worked out great the super spreader do you stand up uh everyone stayed six feet apart wearing masks it was really a safe just like welcoming it was like it was like uh the town seeing everyone off sinks in battle yeah yeah it was good uh i think i've said before on the podcast that uh lindsey my old lady lindsey jumped into the uh sidecar on my hog and we headed out for sturgis

and it was really a hell of a time yeah you brought back a lot of memories and a lot of covid yeah tons tons of coffee um but we yeah we had a great time uh sturgis um the uh let's let's talk about more stuff on the ride do we not talked about shan do enough that's no yeah that's the other big so yeah there was no there was no shan do before let's talk about more stuff on the ride. Have we not talked about Shandu enough? No, we haven't. That's the other big... So yeah, there was no Shandu before. It was just this bearded Sinbad. It was just a mercenary band of sailors.

Of killers. Yeah, stealing treasure, getting greedy. They're the reason they were attacked by birds, whereas in the new version, they are pirates that sinbad is fighting instead of the men he hired for the journey yeah it's his guys yeah so now now instead of those jerks he's got a cute little tiger cub the cutest tiger oh my god if you've never seen this, C-H-A-N-D-U, and I'm sure it'll be on Twitter as we do this. Boy, what a heartwarming.

Yay, we have our is it cute arguments all the time. I would like to meet the monster who does not find Shandu to be cute. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't need to know. I don't even need to know. I don't need to know that person or their mind. That person exists. Yeah, 100% if we did the poll.

I'd like to know who's responsible for Shondoo. Yeah, you know, there's not a lot of kind of in-depth Imagineering interviews and stuff about this attraction. I was trying to find some. I mean, when you have this much of a retool, there should be. I want to know the oral history of the sinbad retool oh sure it's interesting they don't do stuff like this a lot and they don't do like unless there's there's a lot of change outs that involve in putting a new

ip but there's not a lot of like the ride's not working let's fix it but in like a in a screen writing way let's see like there there needs to be a journey and a better hero and a music musical arc that tells you who the character is and a fun little sidekick locations can stay the same robots can stay the same go well i'm very odd retool curious as to what the new snow white ride is going to be because it's no longer the scary adventure right now it's the enchanted wish yeah enchanted wish what's that gonna look like yeah what does that phrase mean yeah you know because most wishes not that enchanted this yeah very enchanted most wishes for the prince to con wishing for right i so that's her wish is the

prince and maybe and now they have a moment at the end like the prince things resolved a little better in that they have a kiss the wishes for a kiss and she has an enchanted kiss as per her enchanted wish I think maybe that's what it is Snow White's I wish song is literally about wishing so yes

pretty appropriate but still like not doesn't really indicate what the changes are gonna be right that are wishing well. Pretty appropriate, but still like not, doesn't really indicate what the changes are going to be. Right. We'll, I mean, we'll sooner,

today people know, I think there's people already posted videos. I've been going cold. Yeah, I don't want to know. Any changes. Spoil that wish. What's the wish?

I don't want to know. Yeah, I want it to be like Sinbad. I was thinking you were saying like, like a retooling, like could, could Alan Menken,, I want it to be like Sinbad. I was thinking you were saying like a retooling. Could Alan Menken, and I wanted to mention Alan Menken wrote that song with a guy named Glenn Slater as well.

Give him credit. I believe he wrote the lyrics to the song. But could Menken and Slater have saved Superstar Limo with a song? Maybe. Because you leave the animatronics in and you leave what was there.

But yeah, maybe. Like you didn't have to put Monsters, Inc. in. They could have written a song about Hollywood that would have saved the ride. And now we would have been enjoying the beautiful Superstar Limo song to this day. That would make us cry. Regis Philbin has money for me.

It'd be about coming to Hollywood with a dream. Harry. Perfect. Soaring. Epic. Boring and epic. City of stars.

See you shining just for me. Right? It wasn't out yet. It wasn't out yet. It wasn't out yet, though. Yeah, I know. To put that in there, but that would have been a Gucci. They should have tried that. I mean, I like that one song from earlier and that really quick song that I can't remember the name of, but it's very jaunty.

And there's a lot of costume changes in La La Land. It took me a while to remember the name of the movie. Probably not a great sign that you would put in a ride. I don't know. Is that, is that more of a, uh, a sign of your mental state or is that,

uh, oh yeah, I, it's yeah. My memory has definitely deteriorated. I definitely need to take some more supplements and interpretation. I'm not even sure why Lala land came up to, to begin with before you

produce the title oh a jaunty hollywood song you were talking about that's the song yeah it's from la la land yeah stars yeah city of stars i'm sure there's we should be advertising some sort of supplements for brains you know like the joe rowan podcast does

yeah some sort of nootropic nootropic yeah if we could yeah if we could put that out into the world we're willing to podcast does yeah some sort of nootropic nootropic yeah if we could yeah if we could put that out into the world we're willing to um advertise for some sort of brain supplement have we in the way of weird pay lynn lynn over it forever dog yeah lynn get us a brain supplement yeah get us that sweet brain supplement sponsorship i want that word get in touch with big brain supplement yeah we need jason we're gonna get jason on these pills asap i don't i won't take the vaccine but i will take any weird pill or powder that gives money to this program a tincture if you got a tincture i'm all about it

yes that's right um let me say another thing about Chandu, which is that his popularity and his cuteness is such that there is a snack in the park based around him. And I thought that I knew, I thought I could picture what this was. I thought maybe I'd even seen it or had it, but I clearly didn't have it

because I'd remembered this because the actual what the Chandu tiger tail is, if you look at it, it looks very pastry and it is an orange and black, odd little like question mark shaped pastry piece. But what's inside, it is referred to as a chicken cream bun, which sounds awful to me. However, there were a bunch of things in Tokyo Disney that sounded not the best and then were the best. So maybe I

would be a fan of this chicken cream. Well, I think it's like a bao dough with a chicken pot pie kind of filling, and it's just not described. So you can imagine that yeah it's a savory pastry we didn't lindsey we didn't eat chandu's tail it sounds really might have now that i'm thinking about it i think we did maybe i think we did i think it was raining

and we had it maybe i'm pretty sure i don't know. I should look through the photos. Yeah, we ate Chandu's tail from each end. Yeah, like Lady and the Tramp. So romantic. Did you guys see they sell a key... Oh, sorry, go ahead. They sell a keychain of the tiger tail. Wow.

A keychain of the tail and the wrapper the tail comes in that's so tokyo yeah just the kind of thing they'd get fixated on it's great the rappers at tokyo maybe we didn't say this on those other two episodes like food rappers are like fully themed like in a way they're like not like you don't even want to throw the rappers away for their like quick service chicken sandwich or something because like i think the first place we ate was over in i guess frontier land and it was like fully themed to the junior woodchuck since huey dewey and louie on the rapper and i was eating like an okay sandwich with this like beautiful piece of like artwork essentially and i'm like i have to throw

this away like and the same with such care goes into everything chandu has like his tiger tail but then the package with a tiger tail comes in is like themed to chandu and it's uh you find that everywhere which is a fun little extra bit of theming which we do not have out here at all yeah such attention to detail that's directly related to what i was gonna say which is we were very disappointed by the lack of sinbad merchandise much like country bears in florida well yeah it was mostly chandu focus there was a good amount of chandu stuff but we wanted like a sinbad doll or something like i wanted him playing like his little i don't know if it's a mandolin or guitar or whatever.

Because he's your best friend. Yeah, because I, again, he won me over very quickly. And I was looking for like a whole, all of the figures or something, all of the characters. Especially that belly dancer figure I was looking for. Yeah, you wouldn't shut up about that belly dancer figure. Yeah. You're either singing the song or singing that belly dancer.

I just like her vibe. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, we were sort of disappointed in the range of stuff you get. It was just mostly tiger focused. Not the quality of the merchandise itself, but the lack of additional merchandise. It was all so Shandu-focused. I just always want more. I want more, more, more, all the time more.

I was super satisfied with the amount of Shandu stuff, and I bought a Shandu puppet, which Aaron and I both agreed would be good to have, but to keep being corny in an episode of corniness. We, and we confirmed later that unspoken, we were buying the Chandu puppet thinking, I hope that this is for a baby.

And then that is what ended up being the case. We would have been happy to have this tiger puppet regardless. We have plenty of toys as it is, but we're, but I remember that specifically I was, and you that specifically And you're so heart warmed by the ride We were just kind of like Alright, see you back in America Dude

We're going to pass you on to the next generation Yeah, thought Michael has never had This is for a child No, absolutely not And for me I have the opposite. And for me. And for me. I have the opposite feeling.

Like, I will not let a future child touch this. They will not be allowed. We're like, this is for a child. Me. I will undercut it by saying that he has no interest in plushes of any kind. Shandu has a bell, which is good. The bell helps. Something that makes noise is good.

So that puts it a notch above other stuffed animals, which he doesn't care about. So that all punctured that nice little fantasy scene. But still, it was nice. There's still time. I mean, he'll get into plush. We'll get it. We'll make it. You brought over some, you brought over fantastic plushes, a DeLorean and a Doc Brown, which he did immediately go for that DeLorean.

He has a need for speed, probably. He's going to be at Sturgis in a couple of years. He loves autos. Last in Sammy Hagar, the iconic music from BTTF2. He's going to be on, he's going to be watching Jay Leno's Garage

in a couple months. Oh, hell yeah. I'll take him to Jay Leno's Garage. He likes trains, and now I'll find it. It's probably not that far from where we live. I'll just go knock on the door.

He'll probably be like, yeah, sure, for a kid, yeah. Yeah. Children love modes of transportation. And cartoon character Jay Leno. They love his exaggerated chin. That's right.

He does, like, you know, he yells, the baby yells a lot when he sees a big truck, and that's essentially Jay, too. It's like the enthusiasm of a six-month-old. Ah! Wow! I'm trying to split the difference between jay and baby scott compared jay leno to a street shark on a episode a couple weeks ago like body wise his big he's just so top heavy and his head is big he's like a human street shark yeah uh so yeah kids kids love street sharks um okay so uh oh wait so so trying to do this can take us into some scenes maybe but i wanted to ask this question

just knee jerk and does it do people have a favorite chan do moment because you see him in all of these scenes these scenes were very like mean and joyless before and now there's some way that this cute tiger is undercutting it all with cuteness, and I think there's a lot of great tableaus, but do you have a knee-jerk? What's your favorite moment of him? Well, the first one that occurred to me was him on the water spout

coming out of the whale's blowhole. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good one. Spinning around. That's great. Yeah. It's hard to beat that one. I feel like i like him with all the bananas

a lot the bananas is cute the very end he is like taking a little nap uh sinbad says goodbye to you and then chan do like lifts his head up it kind of goes like like that was kind of cute because he hadn't really talked the rest of the ride, at least from what I could tell on video. Just a little, little moments. You hear it in the clean audio of the song, but little like, it's great. The little you get is plenty. Yeah. I like when he jumps on a drum too. That's what I was going to say.

The drum. He's being carried by like four guys and a big drum. And he's like, he's on top of it. like he's a conquering hero which is really great that was another moment that that jumped out to me because i think when the drum sound effect hits of him jumping on it i imitated it with my mouth he's and he goes and so that I went just because it seemed fun so that was the other one that stuck out to me I am sure that I got

home and picked up the cats that I hadn't seen in several weeks and who were over with their grandparents and I'm sure I picked one up and made them go boing boing boing I ascribed a lot of chandu to the cats yeah i recommend it with edwin give it a shot he hates being picked up i don't think

do not think that will go well didn't work with the cats either he has some cat uh tendencies but is not a cat yeah um standoffish sometimes wriggles away wriggles out of potentially cute situations yeah i was trying to think like is there a way to get even just a chandu presence in some part is it like chandu a member of c society of explorers and adventurers like isn't there a way i you know i do sin bad sure. I mean, this is the thing. And maybe this is more of the end of the episode. But I do like it that it's only in Japan. There is something really cool about this.

Don't clone it. It should just be in Japan. That being said, couldn't we get a little reference somewhere just for the big sinbad fans yeah just like incorporate them into the family a little more yeah i don't know maybe it's adventure land like fortune teller machine like we did the episodes about is there some little you just put a coin in and uh chandu bounces on a drum yeah that would be something like that i would love something like that because yeah there's no i think really what your question scott pulled like the question you just posed proves there's like really probably not a bad chandu moment as long as it's involving chandu

is he uh tying someone up in the in the cave scene where they're bringing the uger that is very cute i have to say uh i think i really like watching the footage of this ride is that scenes stuff is set up or like stuff calls back previous scenes. Like when Sinbad unlocks a giant lock with a big feather from the bird Island is so, and then that's so sweet to me. And then you come around the corner and him and the giant ogre are jamming together well it's it's just so nice it's just so like heartwarming and then later like

music is acknowledged is a big part of this because yeah he teaches the the i think i saw it referred to as the residents of the monkey kingdom he teaches them how to play instruments he is yes he is spreading the song he is spreading the love of and knowledge of music around and playing and yes as you said that my favorite scene is that scene where he's playing with this ogre and as we alluded to earlier the animatronic feels like it's 40 feet tall I'm sure it's not but in my memory it's like the tallest thing I've ever seen and it's so great it's right by

excuse me it happens like right during that soaring part of the song as well and I noticed that scene for particular I would start to go like get emotional again when we rode over and over yeah and the ogre's voice is so deep yes particular i would start to go like get emotional again when we wrote over and over yeah all right so deep yes yes and he sat he is very deep and sinbad is much higher but they fit together so nicely there is harmony you know they are such different types of beings and the power of song

brings them together it's so beautiful um this is really the core of song brings them together. It's so beautiful. This is really the core of what this redo was from this kind of abrasive ride to the, the friendly or warming ride that we love where the it's, is it a giant? What do we call? I kept seeing it as the cave of the giant. I think it's called a giant. I just think of him as an over because he's green. Oh, sure. Yeah. I think it's called a giant. I just think of him as an ogre because he's green.

Oh, sure. Yeah. I think, yeah, because he doesn't, he's not like, he doesn't have human form exactly. And so giants I think of as being just like big old people. Big people. But he's not people. Yeah, yeah. He's another creature.

He's weird and bulbous and yeah. He's another creature. He's weird and bulbous and, yeah, has a particular color. But so, in the original one, it is sort of the midpoint of the ride, and it's this very same grand vista where you round a corner, but in the old one, he is holding up two people by their clothes or upside down, dangling by their legs and kind of torturing them. Might be people who deserve it who are trying to plunder his riches nevertheless it was still like this is your centerpiece is a giant oh yeah and then sinbad's got his sword out and is like clearly about to go to battle with the giant ogre that yeah that scene with the original scene with the giant or ogre like

with the people in his hands reminds me of the Robert Smigel Shazang cartoon where Shazang is like a genie but he's like the most mean petty genie that like hurts people and like does too much like yeah

could just kind of like embarrass them once but instead like like punches them into the ground and makes them eat manure yeah and then and then punches himself because he's he hates himself the most yeah yeah it's a it's a very funny cartoon but this it does remind me of this where i'm like man that that giant can like really do some harm to these people and like fine if they were bad yeah do some like throw them over they were bad yeah do something like throw them over they were bad they were trying to steal his treasure after just trying to steal all

those bird eggs but i just picture yeah i picture him like making those guys eat manure after the after we're after the boat is cleared then the giant does something really cruel to them like chewing them kind of as slowly as he can like how can i get their meat off but still keep them alive what's the slowest i can eat these people he's gonna torture them he seems like such a jerk you know it's not it's not this harmony this song this beautiful moment sorry jason good oh i was just gonna say that talking about the original version of the show uh reminds me of some stuff i pulled up of um in america it is very popular every now and then to dig up uh and do a sin bad thing because it's extremely in the public domain and uh this ride the current version of this ride could not be further

from let's say this uh short-lived 90s syndicated sinbad uh or is this hunk yeah from 96 i don't know i also don't know who this like man who's got a real like sour look on his face oh that's john do that's human sean do and then there of course is the 2003 forgotten dreamworks animated film sinbad legend of the seven seas with what i am predicting is the most expensive voice cast i have ever seen brad pitt katherine zeta jones michelle pfeiffer and joseph fines and then of course at universal florida there was a show I always really liked, The Eighth Voyage of Sinbad. Not a lot of merchandise from that either, but I found this on eBay a while back,

and I kind of know if this was the logo they were going with, why they didn't sell a lot of this. He is ripped. Yeah, he's jacked yeah and mean but like these are everyone looks mean yeah female friend looks mean the little guy looks mean there's a mean crew really yeah um jason you know you bringing all this up i also found a few different versions of sinbad that might be of some quick interest. Just because, yeah, this is obviously this character has been around forever and been used in a lot of different ways.

And let me just some of the quick, quick highlights real quick here. There was a Fantastic Four Sinbad crossover in 2001. Chris Claremont wrote it. I have not read anything about it. There was something called the Freedom Force TV show in 1978, which had a super team, much like the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, with Merlin, Sinbad, Super Samurai, Isis, and Hercules.

What a combo. We're going to get a really expensive, really miserable movie out of this in the next six years. Yes. And then one of my favorite topics, junkie Hanna-Barbera cartoons. There was something called Sinbad Jr. and His Magic Belt. And I'll just play a little snippet of this. I've seen this.

It's a piece. What the heck? so yeah sinbad is sinbad jr is white uh and he has a he has a character named Salty the Parrot, which is his sidekick, which is of course Mary Oceaneer's parrot sidekick's name in C, the Society of Explorers and Adventurers. So I don't know. Disney ripped off Hanna-Barbera with a very

classic show that everyone knows, Sinbad Jr. and His Magic Belt. I think he just set off a corporate corporate war by stating that yeah i did yeah uh it's funny you mentioned adam barbaric because i was convinced there was a fox kids or an abc morning sinbad cartoon and then i i looked and what i was thinking of was a hannah barbarbara cartoon from 1991 called the pirates of dark water if you recall that yeah yeah i do remember that features a character named niddler uh voiced in the miniseries uh premiere by roddy mcdowell and later in the show by frank welker

oh wow jody benson's in this. What's that? Little Mermaid herself. Jodie Benson is on this show. I believe so, yeah. As Tula. That's interesting. I have to... I was about to say I have to go back and watch that, but you know what? I don't. You want to see Bloth and Conk

and the Lug Brothers? You know what? I think it's really good to draw the line i think like we don't have to watch everything uh-huh we can be discerning a plea from the person who lives with mike to mike oh i'm the one who watches things i'm the watcher in the house she is the watcher in the house i am the collector I'm Tanalir Tavon And she is Uatu The watcher

And I'm Tanalir Tavon to use Marvel characters Yes Can I quick let me make a point about The ride and the changeover I feel like I'm sure there's you know a good way To do a sinbad ride

that's scary and more like the original stories but i don't think it's like a small world slow moving boat ride that that is i think where they went wrong where it's like you want to do something like scary and intense i think the ride system needs to be a little bit more intense as well do you know what i'm saying like yeah if you've just got a dark ride but it's not a ride it's like you're just watching these intense invent adventures instead of feeling like you're in the experience yeah and it's you know it's a mix of i think the slower moving ride plus the small world style doll animatronics like if it was fully pirates level like human-sized animatronics mixed with a slower moving boat ride i think then that's a different story we might be going there's this

very cool sinbad ride that's dark and creepy that's in tokyo but i think that is why the first version of it really didn't work so well we associate boats with relaxation and maybe even with cuteness or at least uh niceness but if it was like a even if it was a like haunted mansion style if it like you can be slow and scary but it can't be a slow boat and scary yes that's what i think i mean i don't can't think of anything that's contradicting what i'm saying that works but like i feel like that's what it is like a scary it could be a slow boat then where there's a big drop or something that's all building to something bad happening right that's okay but like but maybe that original ride had this air of malice like we're going into worse and worse places and more dangerous situations but then

it's not building to a drop or something. Right, exactly. Like, if you took, like, Small World and you, like, put, like, a weird, like, took the song away and then made it, like, it would immediately be weirder because they're, like, dolls and toys. I mean, it's already a weird ride that we all like, but, yeah, if you took the song away

and put this original sinbad song in there it would be odd it would be odd or like if you know those things where you take out a sitcom's laugh track or something if you just like hit every sound effect yeah and there was no song and just a bunch of mood drastically right yeah yeah well then you've then what you've got is the gripping film escape from tomorrow they finally oh man small world is twisted man yeah that's it's hard to tell if i like dismal land better or escape from tomorrow sometimes like i'm always doing that sort of battle in my head which Which one is more outrageous? Which one more cuts to the core?

Which one really gets to the truth of the matter? It's a hard question that we like this stuff. Have you ever thought about that it's all a bunch of corporate crap shoved into our brains? We're being fed thought stew by a corporation?

By head chef Mickey Mouse who was like you know Walt was like Walt like literally like did hate crimes he was like the worst man and he's frozen

he's frozen and he's frozen definitely he's got a head and he's frozen. It's deep under the castle. It's hundreds of feet under the castle. And he's friends with Hitler, too. He was in the room when a lot of that happened. Also, I'm 14 and I just discovered the concept that adults don't always have the answers.

I've just downloaded a bunch of bill hicks mp3s it's really it's all making me think man oh i'm a stepdad now and it's changed everything my yes you know what my if i really think about it my complaint with this all this stuff is that these people don't know disney well enough to know exactly what to make fun of and think is bad they need they need to listen to the podcast they need to hear from us if they want to do their real awesome piece of satire you know yeah that's what that's what i'm really most i'm really most upset with them just not knowing a lot like like not proper ride maintenance or that actually Walt was a little too chummy

with Lenny Riefenstahl. But, you know, mostly ride maintenance. Let's get at the union busting. Yeah, the real stuff. The frozen head.

I'm just saying these are not, these are the surface level pairs. Get the real stuff and then you can use that tone. Yeah,

and then we'll talk yes then we'll talk i mean we won't talk i don't want i don't want to talk to you any of these people no we already know this much you find it out and then talk amongst yourself please don't say the phrase nfts to me uh yeah i'm check that on the whole thing. Absolutely. I think maybe the one place that we haven't super visited is the Land of the Monkeys, which is also a pretty dramatic shift from the original to the current one.

Okay, I think we all agree that this is maybe the most out of place and the one where you feel the most like, all right, so you feel the old ride in this one it is a happy scene but the song stops we go into like a full percussive jam and uh the monkeys are all mostly like drumming and banging on stuff and shaking sticks and it's fun um in the original they are bloodthirsty and i think they want they're terrifying you in the boat like they're the first characters you feel like notice you and they want to pounce on you and put holes in your neck it's really they're so crazy yeah yeah yeah um oh god the monkeys

have seen us it's really then they like this is a little creepy the the sullen teens we were just impersonating might think this is weird that they do they kept all the monkeys the same but they switched them from like uh howling scary faces to big old smiles and i think successfully i think the monkeys are kind of lovable but they're pretty cute yeah yeah yeah but boy that monkey sequence i was like genuinely scary it's just like weird boy this is nuts he's mad at you i was reading that like part of the reason they changed it is because children were scared and so i'm watching the original ride through and i was like i guess is it like the fact that the like the giant ogre is big or something?

I guess I see it. And then it gets to the monkeys and I was like, oh, no, thank you. None for me. I don't like these monkeys at all. They're scary. Yeah. Yeah. Not to redeem me.

If we'd all grown up in Japan, all of our podcasts would be about being freaked out by these monkeys. Yeah. In the new one, though, you know what I really like in this sequence is how Sinbad has a pretty jaunty, fun air for the most part. And I think the most serious he is anywhere in the ride is banging on drums with the monkeys.

He is so focused. He is taking this jam seriously seriously he's very serious about his music yeah he's no mark mcgrath he doesn't have self-awareness he is there for the craft and there's no down he's a there's no patter no no keep it down i'm working um yeah maybe that's not one of his like main instruments either maybe that's not one of his main instruments either. Maybe that's one where he has to focus a little bit more, like guitar, mandolin. Oh, yeah, yeah.

He can kind of do whatever while he's playing those. But this one, he has to really sit and keep in time with the beat. Yeah. Like if someone asks Sinbad, can you play drums? The response would be, I i can but uh you know he's like i'm just i'm warning you now you know it's not the first instrument i learned like i just picked it up like maybe like six months ago right yes yeah if we're just having fun it's fine if we're just having fun but if we're putting down

tracks you might want to call someone else should do it yeah someone else should do it don't like yeah i'll damn but yeah um uh there's a quick i don't know maybe that maybe i'm crazy about this if you were to sort of take the one at some of the animatronics of sinbad does he look a little bit like some of these like direct to DVD Pinocchios? Yeah. Oh, like a little bit. Like the Jonathan Taylor Thomas one.

It's not a clear Disney style. It's like, yeah, it's like capitalizing off Disney releases. Yeah. Maybe it's just cause he's a small animatronic and I'm thinking of a Pinocchio, but if we didn't like him and we didn't like the song and everything surrounding it, would we say he was like almost getting into like ventriloquist dummy territory? And not really. Not that I wouldn't necessarily go that far. But you know what I mean?

It's in the family. I mean, that small world dolls are in the family of ventriloquists. Yeah. dolls are in the family of ventriloquists yeah yeah so some percentage i think comparing it to like knock off straight to dbd releases is very accurate i think that's a fair assessment of the art style of the animatronics yeah it's not fully like roberto benigni pinocchio boy but it's it's yeah there again yeah it's close it's close but that's flirting with that um sure sure but but i think it makes it through yeah you still end up you still end up loving the guy it's weird that we aren't more creeped out by the the animatronic style like this would be primed to be a little like scary but i think yeah we love all his friends and neighbors yeah yeah

they are cute um and all the other creatures like they're at the end there's the uh it's a whale right at the end i believe so yeah yeah and that's cute that's cute and it's it was sort of unbelievable to me i thought it was just going to be the silhouette and then you round the corner and they do it to you again you you turn the corner and on the your right hand side is a massive thing and it's like i can't believe in america i feel like the the money people would just be like oh you you got it once do we have can we cut the second one you got king kong at the end can't the recipe screens ugh but here it's twice

it's unbelievable that rumor that that's one where i was watching the video and going like this isn't this was grander in person i feel i think like yeah i think the darker the lighting is in a ride video the less it translates and this i just remember that room being super magical. And it's kind of the last big thing before you return home. But then the home, there's so much going on at home too. Like you're scarcely done after the whale. There's still so much.

Yeah. It's like, I wish I had taken like a notepad on the ride with me for when we eventually did this episode. Because yeah, you can't in the ride views, the ride throughs, you can't like see every every it's like there's so much stuff going on and there's little details i'm sure we're missing that are are very nice but jason when you go to tokyo soon you know you will have to uh uh point out that stuff that we've missed yeah i mean they just uh uh shut down some theme parks there in some cities uh i don't think tokyo disney but universal i didn't say tomorrow no no but hopefully i'm just trying to get them to break

the rule i think the intention was to save a lot of tokyo until we all did it but like now like there was a world where you you might have gone you know in 2020 or 2021 but obviously that hasn't worked out and yeah i i hope you get the the shot oh for sure yeah now you have the shots yeah i phrased that out right but i made it work since august yeah yes it's august yes yeah we all have them for a long time um the last scene is what you know i think i declared this i don't know in what ride but i i think one of these little uh theme park recurring things that i've decided i like is indoor fireworks i really like fireworks up on the ceiling in any case i you know in the mexico ride and epcot and there's so many here um the return home so great i and then it's you're just back to like that good luck on your

journey and then how was your journey good oh wonderful glad to hear it i think it's funny that when he gets back they're like congratulations on what i would have said that no matter what happened even if he didn't rescue some some bird eggs yeah he could have come back totally empty-handed and they would have been like well those hands are full of friendship congratulations that's right this town loves each other and it's wonderful um i yeah i it's it's just it's so grand like how much of it is back in his town and it's all still it's all memorable and compelling and um i and and boy so long that is really the benefit of the boat ride that they can just go and go and go and you you don't get tired of it um and yeah it's the boat ride yeah

the nice thing about your small the slow moving boat ride is you can pack stuff in to be seen because it's not gonna like you won't be like well they're going too fast to be able to pay attention all these details um yeah um well i mean what have we not called out are there other details that we've that we've missed um i mean yeah there's a there's a scene we didn't really talk about that just seems to be like a nice exchange of vases between him and a sultan. They just kind of like, here you go. All right. Good to meet you. It's not like as dramatic as the bird one.

But in the original, right, I read that that was that character was warning Sinbad about the dangers to come with the monkeys because the monkeys are next. Right, right, right. So that character is like, beware, there are scary creatures and you're heading into the unknown and then monkeys. And then it gives him time to form a plan. Yeah, and instead in this one, it's like vase teach me this song we want to just absolutely fill your boat with treasures just everywhere he goes there the monkeys by the end of hanging out with the monkeys and teaching

the monkeys the song they're like take the biggest boatload of bananas you've ever seen in your life that's how much we appreciate our time with you to the point where when i was re-watching it i was like did they bring bananas to the monkeys no the monkeys are giving them a boatload of bananas out of the goodness of their heart. That one hadn't occurred to me. That's wonderful. That is nice. And I do gets a ton. He gets, I,

that, that I was about to say, I really like the look of the fake bananas too, before we started talking. Yes. To say like, you know, those fake bananas look great.

Something fake fruit on rides. I'm sure like, not always like attracted to the fruit. Like I am to these bananas. I found these bananas. It might be a good, if we're doing fake Final Fours. That's an interesting one. What's food on a ride? Noted.

Oh, yeah. Oh, Horizons has all that future food in it. All those combo fruits. Yeah, and then there's a gingerbread house on a mansion holiday. A rare thing that was in the smell And then it can be in the food We may have it I think you guys gotta do it

That's pretty good I don't know why fake is always part of it It's the artistry Yes You're admiring the craft You're praising the craft Absolutely Well, I mean If that brings us sort of around the bend You're admiring the craft. You're praising the craft. Absolutely, yeah.

Well, I mean, if that brings us sort of around the bend and the journey's ending, yeah, that is the question. If in some bizarre version of events where they add a bunch of extra Disneyland or California Adventure over where there's hotel parking currently and like, why not? You know what? We have the space. there's hotel parking currently. And like, why not? You know what? We have the space. Let's put, let's do Sinbad.

Maybe America will like it. I can't see this happening, but would you be happy because you can go to whenever you want or would it be less special in a way? It would be less special, but I'm not, if it was the same ride, I couldn't be mad. Yeah. You know? And I think it would be too elitist to be like, no, don't bring it here. People should have to go to Tokyo to experience it.

It's like, well, not everyone can go to Tokyo. Sure, yeah. Let the people know the glory of Sinbad and become acquainted with the compasses of their hearts. Yes, exactly. That that's more important when it comes down to it. Much like Sinbad travels the world, the Sinbad ride should travel the world and teach more people the song. I agree.

And there's some truly fucked vibes in parts of Orange County. And I think if they all could learn about the compass of your heart and the true treasure of friendship, like that might help. Yeah. I don't know. Help some people chill. Get that Aryan nation on into Sinbad.

And I think they're going to shape right up. I, I think it's a heartwarming story of like American and Japanese imagineers coming together with a great musical talent of our time to tell a folktale of arabian and persian origin and uh yeah i i'm assuming they would think that too uh you know some of the weirdos in arts county maybe we could at least get to the children yeah Yeah. I'm just imagining all the things that are bothering us in the recent worlds. Like that you see like up off in the distance, you see like a Q save the children rally.

And then you round the corner and everybody's dropped their signs. And they're just and they're singing with Sinbad. We'll be amazed at the the movement of the animronics, like hitting their palms against their foreheads going, I can't believe I was that foolish. What was I thinking? Sinbad is personally texting people's like, uh, mothers and uncles and aunts.

Like here's why, here's the proof that it's wrong. Mr. Watson, Mr. Watson, it's wrong. Here's the scene of Sinbad having. Mr. Watson. Mr. Watson. It's wrong.

Here's a scene of Sinbad having a conversation with his family off Facebook. Wow. Sinbad needs to go everywhere, I guess. Yeah. Every state put a Sinbad ride in. Every city. Wow. Yes.

Okay. I've been sold on that. Never mind. Yeah, I actually know what needs to happen is that, yes, a separate ride is built in every state, a freestanding Sinbad ride. It's its own park now. Before you know it. It's an embassy.

Yeah, it's the Sinbad embassy. And it's like there's four Sinbad rides in each embassy. The same ride, exact ride. Yeah. You build one at, just like without telling him, build it somewhere on the grounds of Mar-a-Lago. There's plenty of space. Oh, yeah.

And then Trump goes on at once, and now he's like offering heaps of bananas to everyone he encounters. He's the most generous man now. What a world. Can you imagine? A Sinbad world. most generous man now. What a world. Can you imagine? A Sinbad world. A Sinbad-influenced world. Life is the greatest adventure. It sure is.

It sure is. And on that note, Lindsay Ketau, you survived Podcast The Ride. A super sentimental one, a nice one. I thought it was great. And let's exit through the gift shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug? Well, it was a pleasure to be on the podcast.

Thank you for having me. And if people have not watched it yet, the Cartoon Network show I wrote on, Infinity Train, all four seasons are now available on HBO Max. That is the end of the show. Sadly, the fourth season is the final.

Um, please, please watch it. Very proud of the work that we did on that show. And, uh, you can also check out my podcast, teen creeps,

where me and my cohost, Kelly Nugent talk about why a pulp fiction of the eighties and nineties, such as R.L. Stein, Christopher Pike, et cetera. Check both Stine, Christopher Pike, etc. Check both of those out. Infinity Train

this season features a, I hope this is not a spoiler, but a large pig baby voiced by J.K. Simmons and it's delightful. Wow. Thank you. That's a specific I wanted to say. There's a lot of great... Yes, Lindsay wrote that episode and I i wanted to say there's a lot of great i i was yes lindsey

wrote that episode and i just wanted to give everyone a little treat much like pig baby demands a little treat yes there that is it's a very uh strange episode i feel like listeners of this podcast would like that one specifically but the whole series as a whole as well you know it's just refreshing to hear the phrase pig baby demands a treat and it's not referring to me for once. I modeled him after you. Oh, thank you so much.

Putting that in my reel. I don't know. It's fine. Get some of that Oscar winner juice. Yeah. Hey, as for us, you can follow the compass of your heart to us on all the socials at podcast the ride

there's merch available at our Tee Public Store and for three bonus episodes every month check out podcast the ride the second gate at patreon.com slash podcast the ride that was fantastic everyone enjoy Disneyland. If you're there now, someone might be listening to this.

Who's there now. If you're going in the next week or so, have a great time. We're hoping to go as soon as we can. Lindsay, hopefully see you soon in person and do a podcast. That would be very nice. Yeah.

And interrupt your breakfast again. Yeah. I really miss sneaking into my kitchen and getting some cereal and then scooting back upstairs. I really miss it. Well, and the interjection, the like hearing us say something wrong and correcting.

And going, the world needs to hear me on this. And wait, so the final thing has to be, i don't have it at my disposal what is that what's the nice message of this ride that has to be the end of the episode about friendship oh the greatest treasure of all is friendship yeah wow that was beautiful wow big baby all right well let's say that's the first and last instance of that you brought that on

yourself you know applied it to you you know i thought it was done i thought we had moved on and uh sometimes you can't predict a callback so fair enough

help juxtapose that awful phrase with the nice one uh no let's go think about the nice one friendship think about that that's good Thanks for listening. All right.

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