Podcast: The Ride - Skull Island: Reign of Kong

Episode Date: June 17, 2022

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Offer ends soon. Forever Dog. Warning. The following podcast contains a famous nephew, stomach acid strength, a big slug, and hard eye contact with a barely emoting gorilla. All that plus we tackle Skull Island, Reign of Kong, on today's podcast, The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, hosted by three people with skulls, which are wasted, storing theme park facts. I'm one of the skull owners. Scott, skulls is in the name.

That resonates, right? We know it's about skulls. Jason Sheridan, hi. I mean, I have a lot of facts about islands of adventure, so it all works out. In your skull. In my skull works out. In your skull. In my skull, yeah. In your skull. Keep your skull safe so we can get them all out. Mike Carlson, how's your skull?

My skull is okay. I took a nap. I've been complaining about it ever since I got here 10 minutes ago. So I have a dreamy skull still. My skull is still, I guess not my skull is still i guess not my skull but this the contents of my skull are still recovering from the nap there well i bet i bet your skull contents are also recovering from your activities last night which i wanted to wait and bring up on the show because i woke up to them dreamily this morning and i just want to say to your text omg

and then before that the screenshot of what it was, which was that Sammy Hagar had been on Bill Maher's podcast and web show Club Random. That's right. I figured I'd just wait and do it in person. I hope it was a great episode. It was to both of us. I want to give Jason a chance to say he wanted that too.

Yeah, I might have already been like half asleep. It might have been very early and i got up for a couple more hours and i went back to sleep you know well but you're making it about you what do you think about uh mike and the great video he got to watch you know i haven't swung by yet haven't swung by the old cr the old club you know but i'm happy happy for you thank you yes it was uh a big uh i'm a bit been a big proponent of uh club random i guess bill maher and his bad opinions and his bad show where he drinks and smokes weed and then people come on and he annoys them uh it's the the dimmest show the grungiest show they just need to like take that saturation and the brightness and dial it up it looks like

like like oh so this was this old this is footage from 1968 and it needs to be restored can we take it to a lab no no this was filmed several days ago but the things they're saying the opinions surely this is from 1968 yeah no no no no uh yeah. So, Sammy Hagar appeared on the show. And I have not finished. I've watched 45 minutes of it at this point. Out of? It's like an hour and something. Oh, okay.

Yeah. I was worried. Yeah, he doesn't go. He doesn't go like crazy. He's no six hour. I'm glad you brought this up. Because I. So, this is the audience, yes?

The audience is thrilled. They saw the title of this. New listeners thrilled to talk about this. Yeah, it's parks and all of a sudden they're in the like the fucking mud right now like what am i in the mud why am i talking about velmar oh shit what is this shit do they ever start they just they skip 40 minutes in still a tangent hour 20 still a tangent why does most of this guy's interests why is the stuff that he likes to punish himself with? What is that about? What's contained in his skull

that makes him want to punish himself with stuff like this? You're also sitting drinking a bottle of like, is that regular Sprite or not? It's regular Sprite. You're drinking full fat Sprite, so you're going to have a sugar rush. Full fat.

And then a crash. Full fat Sprite. As opposed to diet Sprite, I mean. What does anyone call it? I don't know. What else? Regular Sprite. Yeah, I Full fat Sprite. As opposed to diet Sprite, I mean. What does anyone call it, that? I don't know. What else? Regular Sprite. Yeah, I would say Sprite.

So you're going to crash. You're going to get that higher. I love full fat. There's zero total fat. No fat. Okay, well. I don't think of it as fat. It's not.

How much fat is in Sprite? But how many grams of sugar is that? Oh, there's a decent amount of sugar, of course. Okay, well, follow-up question. What was your dinner, and what are you going to eat when you get home? Oh, I kind of skipped on dinner, so I was eating a Nature Valley granola bar on the drive over. All right, all right.

And I'm debating how to destroy my brain after the show if I get a Big Mac on the way home. That's full fat. That is full fat. There's only one option there, and it's full fat or that is there's only one option today or do I go to the 1010 showing of crimes

of the future at the Burbank AMC sneak a Big Mac in there do both oh sneak a Big Mac into a Cronenberg movie there are only four tickets sold so far so so you'll be distant you don't need to work on it during the record you know did you get the jump no yeah yeah people are listening to this show and thinking

this show should be called club random with the topic switch they have talked about any and everything but so so real quick um um i was very excited about this because i have often wondered if sammy hagar held any sort of um animus tour to jimmy buffett or any of the other people who have sort of jumped on the celebrity liquor bandwagon in the last few years because sammy's been doing this longer than everyone and he does does it predate margaritaville also yes and it and and cabo wabo is his was his brand which he sold and now he has a new like a hard seltzer drink or something, I think.

He has a new drink, but he already made his money from Cabo Wabo. Full fat, full taste. Full fat. Full fat liquid. That's so good. So he does, he throws a little shade at George Clo jimmy buffett at the start of this at clooney yeah because he wow who is he me yeah so he he's obviously he's a little resentful that clooney sort of came in and did the whole casamigos because he feels like he's the number one guy

he didn't say that but that's sort of the tone of the conversation wow so i was i was like okay sammy's getting real at club random because usually he's just doing some sort of a rock and roll interview on AXS TV. That's usually how I'm watching him because I very often am watching him interview one of his musician pals on AXS TV. He's doing the interview? He's got an interview show. Oh. Yeah. Yikes.

He gets to rock and talk, talk rock with a lot of the guys. He gets to rock and talk rock. Yeah, lot of the guys he gets to rock and talk rock yeah he gets to do both things talk rock and rock which is a good combination uh which two things i like to do as well um so so you get a little of that you get some there's some bawdy talk up top with bill because bill always wants to talk about lady the ladies well that's what here content warning skip ahead because i put it on for a second as i was curious what you were omg about and the first thing it landed on was hey settle a bet do you get a lot of pussy oh yeah yeah that's what bill said but does the uh change if you remember that's coming from a 70 year old man to another 70

year old man and that they are both sweaty in the shot as usual on club random the guest see like bill makes the guest seem like the easiest person to hang out with in the world you're like that other guest seems seems nice like compared to bill because bill has been like sam's like oh man you know he says it a little bit but then later sammy's getting uncomfortable with the amount of times Bill has said the word pussy. Oh, boy. So Sammy's like, oh, no, man. People are going to think we're being degrading.

He goes, no, that's not it. Everything's beautiful, man. It's all good. Everything's good. Sex is a beautiful thing. He's explaining to Bill. It's gotten worse somehow. Yeah, I know.

Yeah. It's being a beautiful thing. He's trying to get away from Bill's body this is what i'm saying i'm saying sammy is trying to as by the way as as uh as we need to do i agree as well but when you open the door to club we have to let's cut off the people who have already typed into their comment boxes oh so 20 minutes about club random let's see if we can get them to backspace it okay yeah yeah it's my fault i brought it up you did bring it up which look at any time on this show we can open up the door to club random and then the topics will get random let's just say that wouldn't it be funny if bill mars suit us if we stole club random for

some sort of aspect of our show i think it would lock locked those words down i don't know let's find out scott i i did i texted mike something last night i texted him a link on uh i think the walmart website to a uh vintage well a reproduction of a vintage uh toys or uh ghostbusters real ghostbusters toy fearsome flush the haunted toilet okay i i sent him this link and he replied already got it so twelve dollars retro they're they're redoing all the old um kenner ghost real ghostbusters toys um and i have a few i have the vancman because he was always my favorite obviously like like that was a stretch. Every kid liked Venkman. But then they have the toilet monster, and I had to get it.

A subtle abet. Can fearsome flush hold a lot of shit? Oh, man, don't call it shit, man. That's not a nice, like, let's just call it excrement. Let's say what it is. Come on. Answer the question. Oh, man, you're making it sound bad.

Come on, man. It's just a thing our bodies do. That's a natural thing. Smoke on this it is Come on Answer the question We're in You're making it sound bad Come on man It's just a thing our bodies do That's a natural thing Smoke on this loud Come on Hit this loud Okay let's veer from this To what the audience is

What they actually want to hear What they are begging for And that is the beginning of discussing the ride Skull Island Reign of Kong And what I say the people are begging for and that is the beginning of discussing the ride skull island reign of kong and what i say the people are waiting for and waiting for us to do is a classic podcast the ride this is not that yeah yeah i got it yeah you know exactly where we're heading yes there is breaking down to do you would you like to say one of the things that this is this is not well maybe first of all this is a ride in Islands of Adventure in Universal Orlando,

which means it is not other Kong things that are similarly titled, such as... It is not the 2017 movie Kong Skull Island. Skull Island, Reign of Kong is not Kong Skull Island. No, because this ride is set in the 1930s. It is a prequel even to the Peter Jackson film King Kong. It happens before the events of that movie, much less that movie, Kong Skull Island, which confusingly was coming out after the ride was opened. And that movie is set in the 70s i think and like yeah during nam yeah yeah yeah

because it's the first because it came out in 2017 remember and the first shot of it is there's a big protest in washington and then john goodman says things will never get crazier in this country yes yeah he does say that the audience stood and applauded for so long they missed the next scene and a half um interesting that you mentioned that um apparently the the rights for kong the uh legendary i believe it's production company um that the rights jumped from universal to warner brothers and there's a 2016 slash film article that said rumor has it that if this project had gotten approved 30 days earlier it would have been a jurassic park ride instead whoa or a jurassic world ride excuse me because this whoa this because it is in the jurassic park

area yeah technically of islands of adventure really wait a minute. So, oh, that's wild. So, because you have to remember 2016, that summer Jurassic World is coming out. Mm-hmm. Was it before? Was it 2015, I want to say? Was it? I could be wrong. Yeah, 2015. But it was like, you know, it was still fresh, I think.

And there is still no Jurassic World presence in Florida. Right. That is sure to change now that now that it's jurassic world mania out there it's locusts made it's genetically modified locust mania out there it was 2015 so they would have known it was a massive hit so it would have been a reliable choice for a property for a ride certainly velocicoaster is jurassic world oh that's oh wait a minute yeah totally yeah yeah all right i All right. I haven't even been there. I was like, oh, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, you're right.

And is there like Pratt material? I think so. I think Pratt has a video. I'm trying to go in clean, cold as far as the ride. Clean and cold. You just cut off at the past people yelling about that. Yeah. I guess I was just not thinking because the one here is called Jurassic World the ride. Right. Which that is Yeah. That is true. I guess I was just not thinking because the other,

the one here is called Jurassic World the ride. Right. Which that is not. So it tricked me. That's true. Right. So the presence is growing.

Blue is there. We can see all our friends. Can we see Claire Deering? I think she did something. I think Claire, is Claire on the I'm not 100% sure. We're trying to go in clean.

Clean and cold. Clean and cold to the ride. So we don't know if Claire is there. Make sure it's both clean and cold. Are there other things that this ride is not? Well, I wanted to be clear that it is not King Kong 363D, which is the proto version of it that is part of the Universal Tram Tour. It also obviously is not Kongongfrontation which was the

which we did an episode about that one i remember that of the kongs that's the one that we've done it's a real sticky mess here these kongs yeah and because there's so many sub kong attractions to do kongfrontation was the universal florida the original ride with big robotic kongs yep and then king kong encounter is apparently the official name of what it was on the tram before it burnt to the ground yeah yeah um so uh probably the most important of the this is not that is king kong 360 3d because so if you haven't been on the universal tram tour robot kong burnt down they did this new thing in 2010 that is screen based you drive into a building and there are two big screens on either side of you which they do't cover above or below so it's more like it's not even kong 180 it's kong pillar boxed like yeah there's no yes there's no amount of degrees that have been

it's yeah it is a little less than well no it's it's 360 minus a big center sliver. Yeah. Right. Plus every bar and person blocking your view. Was there already a King Kong 3D? Am I imagining that? I think maybe I'm thinking of Jaws 3D. I don't think there was a film King Kong 3D. I don't believe. But anyways, when this was getting announced, I thought, oh, is this some kind of let's shove that in version, as Fast and Furious ended up being. That was clearly designed for the Universal Tram Tour in LA.

Let's try to piece that out into its own ride in Florida. So I thought, is this going to be one of those is it kind of let's just shove it in and maybe there's a custom ride vehicle and that's good and for the most part i would say no because i would not be excited about that yeah at all i don't really like that thing in the tram tour this thing i don't know how y'all feel i really like this thing well i'll say this i like that part of the tram tour i do like i don't it's not amazing but i do like it versus obviously the fast and furious yeah part yeah i like it um i think the islands of adventure attraction i think is like a pretty solid attraction going

back and re-watching videos and stuff i was like oh i do like this. And they did put a lot of attention in and added some new stuff, like original characters and little nods. I think they tried to make, they nodded to the essential King Kong elements, like the island, the big wall, like other freakish creatures on the island. Early 20th century, mid-20th century explorers uh yeah you get a more you get a like fully fleshed out experience but here now i'm wondering from having to toss this out here am i more enthusiastic about skull island here than the both of y'all i feel like maybe i'm a little above you uh and mike i don't know here's what i'm gonna

say and i'm not i swear to you i'm not doing this to troll i'm not doing this to start another we're not gonna opening up a club random door but i swear to you i'm gonna say this and it's true when we went to islands of adventure and did this for the first time we got on it and we enjoyed it and then i heard people talking about it and i remember going well, what are they talking about? I missed these elements. And the elements they were talking about were in the queue. They were in the line.

And we totally missed them because there's some cool shit in that line. And I really feel that eases you into like the fast pass version of getting onto the ride really robbed us of sort of getting in the mood for the ride and i do think and again this is not trolling i'm not i'm not this is a thought i'm having in real time with belmar uh no no the curse you've cursed the curse of mar think carefully about what you're gonna to say next. Don't say anything politically incorrect. Oh, no. Oh, Sammy kept saying, calling his show now politically incorrect. And Bill was driving him nuts. He hated it.

It was so funny. So, yeah. So, I saw it and I go, oh, yeah, the Q is really cool. And I do feel like in the same way that Indiana Jones really sets the mood for it. So, I think when watching the videos, I go, oh oh i think i would have liked this a little more if i had done the queue all right look uh yeah we're at that it occurred to me that this might we might head into this area because um you know look i'll just i'll i'll dive right in this is as close as i could think of to an unskippable queue. Yeah.

That's me saying that. I think it's a very good queue, and it might be even an attraction where the queue is half of it. Because you got animatronics there, you got great sets, you got atmosphere. You have a, I think this is a line first, a scaracter jumps out, which i don't remember happening when i was there they might have been on break it might only be like busier times of the year because i don't

think i i have seen that um either um there is i mean there's a lot to like about it i think overall this is like a rock solid like attraction for universal um but q wise you eyes you did the full q i well i i think i did express too when i did it but it it was looping it through most of the q i don't know that i saw the worm animatronic i saw the shaman i don't remember that either yeah i might have single writer did i don't recall, but I saw a lot of stuff. Yeah. My memory of it, unless we really were out of it, my memory is we kind of went in a real quick way,

kind of right on the ride portion of it. But let me ask you this. How much do you actually regret this having happened? How many? Oh, we're on my list of regrets of my life no this is not in the top hundred and that is what i'm saying that's the argument that's not the argument that's not it is it is the argument the idea that you would like think back and go god but i that was it like you're only you might only be there once you'll be there again but you were just saying there's

certain cues if people had the time to spend That you would want them to go through That's really what we were talking about I think, that's my memory But now, having brought this up You're down in Florida Maybe you are with other people You get front of the line passes

Let's do express, let's skip some stuff Your friends say Oh, let's use express pass On Skull stuff yeah your friends say oh let's use express pass on skull island reign of kong yeah do you now say i'm sorry friends what we need to do is experience the queue in full because i've heard it's very good and even scott dude okay the villain of this argument i would i would probably it's be be more benevolent and say you guys do the express i'll catch up with you in a little while i'm gonna do the full cue i know it sounds silly but there's a lot of stuff like for example 150 000 square feet of rock work

well that's a lot of rock by the time you said that they would be right there with you just running i think you i said this in the time you gotta know your audience when you're with people at the parks yes you gotta know your audience so i'm a look i'm a crowd pleaser i am somebody who wants to cater to the uh the group so obviously look if i'm with my some of my rowdy guys from the from my hometown and they just want those thrills, like hit you in the face thrills, then yeah, okay, we can skip the queues and I know they're not going to... Yeah, all my rowdy friends and I

are going to the theme park tonight. They're like giving you a wedgie as you're rattling off 12 guests per row, 72 per vehicle. You're dying to say these facts. You were like, we're over, we're having a little thing and you're like,

how quickly can I get the facts back? We're having a debate and you're dying to say these facts. You were like, we're over. We're having a little thing. And you're like, how quickly can I get the facts back? We're having a debate. And you're trying to. But it's 72. So, yeah. So I think it depends. I think it depends. But certainly if.

Okay, how about this? You got some friends. They move out to Los Angeles, California. Maybe they're not theme park people, but they're open minded. Okay. Yeah. And they go, you know what? I would like to say let's

all have sex together and you do and it's wonderful and you forget about theme let's go to a special club with bad lighting uh uh uh yeah so they so you say okay we'll go to the theme parks and then i would start to go i you start the start i'm slow and you start to explain like the history of things you start like there's certain people you know and especially if they have the time so what i'm trying to say is in this scenario somebody has the time and you'd say oh have you ever walked through the whole line of whatever ride we're talking about oh you only do single rider indiana jones well did you know there's a long queue and then you point things out but they have to be that type of person that might appreciate

it so this is look i appreciate i like both of your answers jason gave a very realistic answer of something he would say yeah that would not force the group to do it sure where i felt like the first time this came up is that what the what was expected of me is that i veer everyone with me no no i think what you need to do your home, eat your homework. I think what happens when we all have debates on this show is the same thing that happens in politics, where all of a sudden we're at the very ends of every side of the argument. When maybe that's not actually where the argument started. So the argument started, I feel like, from what I'm'm saying but it somehow morphed into scott hates

lines hates the which button yeah and look i don't like that that's something people say to me and comes up in comments and stuff like well it'll suggest like a club three like what what about lines that scott would actually do i do lines all the time i'm just saying the argument um but but yeah if you had the option to skip all of them always. A lot of these arguments, we would have to go back to the scene of the crime and really suss out exactly those first like eight sentences, eight to 15 sentences to actually figure out what everyone's opinion is on them. Sure.

You know? Right. So yeah. Which is why we're going to get back into lake nona for a long time right now yeah you're right jason oh and let's go letting you guys go all right yeah okay you've let us talk say some facts say your facts uh 2160 guests per hour with a dispatch going every two minutes although there's usually four of the five vehicles going at any given time do you have the miles per hour of the of the ride i don't have the miles per hour what do you think

oh it's like five miles like two miles it's not a fast ride i was trying to tie it in i was trying to like do the sammy hagar i can't drive 55 but whatever whatever yeah i can't drive four miles he's gotta do five right he's one of the the animatronic drivers of this attraction oh man it was uh universal's first trackless uh ride um and you know uh opened in 2016 it is interesting that then fast and furious came after that because they put so much time and attention into like plussing up a port of like a clone of the studio tour yeah making it way more of a beginning middle end experience they re-added they they like upres the animation they added you know they tweaked like there's not a tram being thrown there's another you know it's not a it's not a bright blue universal yes tram anymore which i guess i

miss in a way wouldn't make sense yeah it was there i kind of like that maybe just because i you know because i worked there when i and i those babies, it reminds me of my wild youth. So seeing one in peril tumbling through the jungle, like, oh, there's my girl. That's how I feel about the tram. In your rowdy years, when you would think back to that first car you owned. Yeah, mine were. That first place you'd go to.

You were at Mel's Diner pulling up in a multi-car tram. I do consider that, yeah, that's my first car. Mel's Diner, then we'd take that thing for a ride over

to the Big Fat Liar set. Oh, baby, those were the years. You want to get really wild, see a flash flood? My friend Al Roker has some information about it. I know we're not at this part of the tram yet, but why don't I hit the gasolina sound cue?

Oh, those days. You never forget your first car. That's a car that you are not licensed to operate. It is a separate union from yours. It's way better than yours anyway. The vehicle is cool. I don't know. It looks cool. The vehicle of this?

Yeah, of the Islands of Adventure version. Yeah, I remember this shouldn't take any points away, but I'm somewhat active as far as being like a lurker on the inside universal message boards i think this is where i read this where they have a lot of rumors and people speculating it might not actually be these

boards might be different boards but there was a lot of talk before it opened and then after it opened of like speculation on what what the universal Creative people were going to do. And I do think in some ways it had built it up as like lots of robots, maybe, in between. Well, do you remember the one rumor, because I was going to bring this up, that there was going to be different tour guide characters, which did pan out, that did come to pass, but that Kong was we've talked about this

reach into the cab and pull the uh make somehow they would do it where like the driver was pulled out of the car wow by tom oh which would have been admittedly awesome yeah and yeah probably impossible could probably a pain in the ass well the thing the rumor i had read on one of these Which would have been, admittedly, awesome. Yeah. Probably impossible. Probably a pain in the ass. Well, the rumor I had read on one of these boards, and again, who knows if that's true. I mean, I think that one might have been a better source even than this. This was just like a message board, but there's a rumor that they were going to have like animatronic Kong legs running behind you or something.

Yeah, they're running. In some way. I'm not sure how they would make that look, but there was some, yeah, very, very ambitious version that probably would have mixed the 3D movie and robots. How do you do that? I don't know. And did it hit the ground with any... I mean, I guess it couldn't hit the ground.

You would just make the noises and it would kind of... Yeah. I'm just speculating. But just like the bending of joints on a massive scale. That seems... I could see why they threw that out. As cool as that would be. Expensive as hell.

Yeah. So, so I remember kind of reading a lot of that. And then maybe by the time, like you see, there's a little, there's a little robot. And then there's like,

just a, like a, a nice, I guess it's Optimus Prime style ending with the character at the end with it, which is a robot. Spoiler alert. You get a real moment. But yeah,

yeah. I think I, in some ways when the ride was being built, I think I was like, whoa, this thing's going to be nuts. Yeah. And it's just like, it's good. I do like it. I'm not trying to put it down.

Basic synopsis of it, just to get that out of the way, it is 1931. You are on an expedition with the Eighth Wonder Expedition Company, and you're going to explore Skull Island. People don't really know everything that's going on there, but you're trying to find if there's any evidence of prehistoric creatures, because that could be an incredible finding,

and there's archaeologists already there trying to do exactly that, and boy, do you find them. Boy, do you find them, and then some. And in fact, one of the archaeologists, Kate, is kidnapped by not a bat. Not a bat. I mean, if you polled 99% of the people coming out of this, they'd say it's a bat. But the name of it is somewhere in my notes.

Oh, there it is. A terrapus mordax. A Terrapus Mordax. A Terrapus Mordax? Terrapus Mordax. Jason, you have Terrapus Mordax? I did have Terrapus Mordax. The bat does drop her and the other guy. A bat or a Terrapus Mordax?

Sorry, the Terrapus Mordax. You're confusing me. Very good. But then the giant claw that grabs her is the giant crustacean, the Deplector. Oh, you're right. The Terrapist Mordax is just the beginning of the problem. It's the... Sorry, what then?

Deplector? I don't have that. Deplector? I don't have that either. I got a Decarna... Decarna... Oh, Deplector. I don't have that either. I have a, I got a decarnate, decarnacemex. Oh, Deplector. Is that the worm? No, that's a, that's a carnictus.

Deplector I have here is giant crustaceans living in the cavernous crevices found along the walls of the insect pit on the King Kong wiki. Okay. Yeah. Because there's, there's like big scorpions and big spiders and then a crab yeah yeah yeah it's cool there's a lot of cool like gross bugs and monsters and stuff and it's i like that they gave them names mm-hmm but we were pro name more names the better yeah yeah yeah it feels like they went they they did

go all out with the details and stuff there was also a lot of short making of videos on youtube and then there was a fake web series called myth explorer whoa i didn't see that uh it's on the universal orlando video account and it is like a fake Discovery Channel globetrotting exploration show about a woman hunting for the real Skull Island. Wow. But she acknowledges that there's been movies and TV shows, and there's a ride coming to Universal. Oh, wow. It's a thing within a thing. And so, yeah, it's 2017 or 2016.

You know, there's also one of the behind the scenes videos, a Universal creative person. She goes really into the importance of STEM education, of science and math education, which I feel like was really big in 2016. Like, I feel like there was a big push about the importance of STEM education. That feels very much of its time.

And I'm sure the educational thrust in that area has remained under the firm leadership of Governor DeSantis. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Focus on science and math is as strong as ever. He's focused on all the right things. All the right things.

The more books, the better, he says. Oh, yeah. He is so mighty and steadfast, much like King Kong. Much like the mighty Kong himself. King Kong. Countrywide, I feel like they're loving books. It's a real book time. Great time to read yeah uh do you

know if the woman found skull island in the continuity of those videos i feel like it i only saw two clips i watched two episodes and then it kind of like cut off oh so they maybe they didn't finish the narrative i don't know if they well the website myth explorer.com is no longer active i think think one, the Orlando Informer articles about Kong Skull, I think they did redirect their link to the archive.org page,

but it didn't seem like a ton was super functional there. You know? Okay. So we'll never know. Yeah. Archive.org, the Skull Island of websites.

You gotta go on an expedition. Might not ever come out. Don't let your computer get a deplector style bug please be careful but yeah i mean generally you were and we'll go into details but generally you were trying to save this archaeologist and and they're calling you back to the base camp no it's not safe i know you got go save her. And thus you end up in the jungle with a bunch of dinosaurs who are not, we'll get into who they are. But King Kong swoops in, saves the day, and gives you a little moment where you worry is going to be bad news,

but is more like, remember, I'm the guy. Yeah. It's me. Yeah, there's one thing. He kind of mad dogs you. Yeah. Yeah, he shows his authority. Yeah.

Which is nice. As you have to. So, well, I mean, we could kind of, look, we could talk about the queue. We can. It's a good queue. It's a good queue. It's really good, yeah. And it's got, yeah, it's got so much, as we talked about a little, like a scare actor

sometimes, we think. We're not sure the schedule on that. There's like screen, there's screen scare actors, essentially. Like there is a, that's where I was like, wow, this is pretty cool in here, where they kind of, they kind of lure you into looking through this area with some rocks where there's some kind of, there's some sparkly stuff going on. So you crane your head, what's going

on in here? And then, bah, a guy jumps out at you, who is very realistic and very bright in that way that realistic screen people are, but the brightness kind of adds to the you don't expect to see such a bright figure poking out of those rocks

that still is burned and it did genuinely freak me out and i was like well this is hey this is stuff that's only in this queue they gotcha um yeah it's like we've heard we've heard tell over the years like of those the haunted mansion like lore of when they would have like an actor in the ride or hanging out you know like the i guess it was a suit of armor there was like they supposedly had an actor yeah like wearing the armor on the ride and the legend is like a person punched because punched the person because they like got their face into the car so i've heard of this and then like knots used to do it at uh scary farm they would do like scare actors on the log ride or maybe it was on the

mine cart right i forget one maybe both um it was the i think it was the log ride because you are going pretty fast so um there's not a ton of spots for them to pop out so it's a lot of the emergency exit yeah right right right there you kind of knew it was coming because it would be dangerous to pop out from anywhere else you know yeah they haven't done that they haven't done those they don't think the last couple of years well not a couple whatever four or five years i feel like since we've gone i don't remember them having those scare actors on the ride but i've always been i think as a kid even i was always kind of unsure of like oh is there a real person here in these rides so this is like the first time i guess one

of the most popular like like a big universal or disney ride had a full scare actor correct me if i'm wrong that's like regularly showing up in the ride experience yeah well don't forget the special treat that met some disneyland guests every once in a while when uh captain jack himself oh okay well sure but who that's not quite what i'm i'm not even i don't even have the i don't even want there's no stamina for you left in you to get to the end of that joke rather not say the name uh yeah yeah yeah look it up yourself um so so yeah so this is this is cool and as a kid this would have scared the shit out of me and i wouldn't have wanted to go on it because i would have been like there's a person in that line no way i i was terrified at the idea of real people in haunted houses as a kid to the point of it was either in

like wildwood or seaside heights like we went to another town one night at the jersey shore that we didn't often go to and there was a haunted house i was so excited because i loved the haunted mansion but there were all these warning signs that was very intense and like we went up to the teen working and was like are there people in costumes in this he's like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and i was like i'm not no i'm not doing this one i can't early on we i remember the most like rinky dink carnival haunted house around Halloween. And it was like there was a sign outside that explained kind of what it was. And I was like, no way. And I was like seven or eight.

And then that lasted up until, what, five years ago? Whenever I went to, whenever I started the love haunts? At some point. Well, I mean, trick-or-treating in my neighborhood, there were parents or families who would go all out and i remember a couple times like dads because some people would have like scarecrows you know on the front like in a chair on the front yard and then some people would dress like scarecrows and sit in the thing and then jump out at you when you reach for the candy bowl and my dad

always tells the story of like there was one house and we were pretty sure uh that like it was a person not a scarecrow but i went up and got candy and said hi hi to like the people giving out the candy and walked away and so i didn't get caught um i didn't get you know they didn't jump out and we we turned to walk away my dad looks back and the guy goes hey mike hi and like it was but he saw me coming oh so he didn't terrify it so he did not do it he went easy as a cool dad yeah jason oh wow that's nice yeah um well it's a candy bowl mix i don't think i even said this because i think i did this after we recorded our halloween episode last year or or where i detailed my my panic attack before going into an escape room with eva uh with of course the

minotaur but i tried to get right back on the horse like a week later and went to a zombie joe show with with eva which is just like a little mini maze and then a weird show with a lot of nudity uh because that's the that's the thing over there uh club random the club uh but there's a they make a maze they can make this very tight maze out of just like um i don't know maybe i have told the story they make just like uh uh what's what am i thinking of you put down like a tarp or something they like kind of make it in the lobby of this small theater okay so like you really are like say it's like as big as this garage but they've put so much tarp

and stuff around they section it off to turn yeah and it's like a maze and you have to like go like really tightly in and there's people in there yelling and screaming at you yeah yeah and then at the very end because you go but you go one way then you go into the theater watch the show come out the other way and they it's a new maze with different characters on your way out and in the very end there's a candy bowl and you go to reach for some candy and of course it's a human being and their head is got like a candy bowl thing is fixed to it you're touching their oh no it's not it's candy isn't their face right no but it's like stuck on their head and they're like in this like position like as if there's some sort of um um stand for the

candy bowl and oh that's great reach and you go ah it's really a one last freak uh fright before. But I like that you're genuinely like, ah, I made it. Ah, now to enjoy a piece of... I was disappointed because I did reach in to get the candy. I was going to say, they found the way to get you every time. I wish the person saw me

and was nice like when Jason was little. Yeah. Although there wasn't real candy either. I was disappointed. I touched it and it was like fake. It was like rubber and warm because it was a person's head so your scream was less scared and more it's not candy i wanted my full fat candy i wanted full sugar candy yeah um you know i i think this was universal orlando's first thing with scare actors year round but out here there was the universal house of horrors yes yes yes which i've talked about so i mean i guess that's different that's

like a full haunted house yeah yeah yeah that you know you're right that's true but yeah it is also just a haunted house yeah but as a kid yeah i think we share the same like i hope there's not real people on this because as a kid I think you would learn with Disney and Universal that you could count on the rides to do what you knew they'd do. There was a safety in Haunted Mansion because you knew it was going to be the same thing every time. Yeah, yeah.

The beach town where they were still giving out cartons of cigarettes at the carnival games, I knew was a little more chaotic. Yeah. So that was unpredictable but the the calmness uh that you could get from knowing that there were not random random elements on the haunted mansion yeah that's why you know hey that's why the haunted mansion stinks right you don't you know exactly where it's going yeah not like a freewheeling

conversation that's right and then you know maybe we it's going yeah not like a freewheeling conversation that's right you know maybe we can talk about lib tears a little that's right so anyway i mean this queue is it is really fantastic the exterior is great i feel like in general what you can tell they're hitting over and over is it is a screen-based ride but it's a screen ride for people who don't like screen rides because that is the basis of it but they're doing everything else that they can do to show you like this is a full experience that you know has a lot of dimensionality including right before you even get in there the fact that you walk up and there is this exterior loop where you watch the vehicle drive out of its boarding area go up to the giant doors

of the the temple with huge flames shooting out of them like the scale of it is fantastic it's similar to it's a little bit of that what's cool about rise of the resistance where they carve out these exterior zones to be part of a mainly interior ride yeah um there's also a fail safe where like if it's lightning if it's pouring rain the car can skip that outdoor section and continue to operate wow wow um i'm not quite sure the mechanics of the shortcut i couldn't all the videos i tried to find like on youtube like king kong rain king kong shortcut like i did get a few i was surprised i did was like picked three random videos and got like three different tour guide characters yeah i got a good mix of the guides which i think is another like attention to detail that like adds to Yeah. Well, we might as well dive into that.

Sure. So King Kong does not reach his hand into a vehicle and pull out a nanometronic character. But on these vehicles, and by the way, I bought all this hook line. It never occurred to me that it was trackless. I figured this was like- Yeah, I didn't know that. This was a real, like a vehicle with a motor that's driving you around. And I thought the shape up front was a human being.

So until we started prepping for this, genuinely did not know that there's nobody on them except for you, the guests. And that that figure up in the front is an animatronic driver and i certainly did not know that there is a mix of five animatronic drivers that uh customize the experience i didn't know that until now yeah yeah we i'm convinced now while it's cool and i think everybody who finds this out thinks it's cool it did occur to me we might be the first people ever to have a conversation about it other than you know we're gonna say these names right has anyone ever has anyone ever gone into this before oh uh well i think like we there's a lot of websites when they again i yeah you know what i mean but that's like a press

release yeah there's a press release it was part of the press release yeah it was part of like the full the all hands there's no fandom of of there's no like uh skull island heads skull island junkies you know like a lot of things that we talk about on this show all of a sudden in a couple weeks stuff will start popping up and you go did we do that maybe it's our egos talking but i feel like maybe by just putting this into the world you know maybe maybe there will start to see the people will be standing these characters i don't know um i mean there are a lot of archetypes you see in in you know adventure movies and stuff king kong movies of course uh uh uh should i just start yeah sure yeah hopefully and your starting lineup of beck Callahan, the loose cannon cowgirl who is in phase by the dangers awaiting her on Skull Island. Archetypes, loose cannon cowgirl.

Loose cannon cowgirl. Will Denham, the fresh-faced, adventure-seeking, younger cousin, famed movie director Carl Denham. Now, okay, this is the most interesting one to me. So to explain what's going on here, unless you're like, I know who Carl Denham is, I'm not an idiot. So this is set in 1931. The Peter Jackson King Kong that Universal

has done so many attractions about, made the studio tour largely about, was from what, 2005, I think? Yes. Carl Denham is the filmmaker played by Jack Black. Right. Who goes to find King Kong and then make him do a meme show. Yes.

The one who calls him the eighth wonder of the world. Okay. For the marketing. Also the name of the character in the 1933 King Kong is Carl Denham. Oh, okay. That is consistent. Okay, okay. Cool.

So, and this is where like I think the fandom plate page start to get a little spicy of like obviously I mean it's a nod to the movies but like it seems unlikely that this would be a full prequel to that movie because why would there have been an expedition and then another

expedition oh right because they're yeah it's unexplored yeah yeah if the guy's nephew has already been but they tried to make this all tie together yeah and i watched a video where i did land on will denim so and this is all this is all just vo there's kind of one big spot where the character gets to make their mark and it is in that opening loop before the plot really kicks in but you get like one or two sentences to get to know your animatronic driver it says his name hey i'm will my uncle carl denim

makes adventure movies that's what i want to do someday i can't wait to tell him about this place you know the way you're always saying your uncle's full name? Uh-huh. Sure. Yeah. My uncle, Robert Gairdner, pretty cantankerous. I don't know what else I want to say about my uncle. But I should introduce you. Now you know his name. Well, it is helpful that he speaks like that because we wouldn't know otherwise um i just wanted to really quickly add that carl

denham is a character that was also appeared in the 1998 the mighty kong animated movie voiced by dudley moore so another actor who has played carl denham there was you know someone uh mentioned like i think one of the universal creative people or was talking about like yeah we've, you know, someone mentioned, like, I think one of the Universal creative people was talking about, like, yeah, we've seen, you know, Baby Boomers, we've seen Kong a lot, you know? We know Kong. We saw the 1966 cartoon with Kong, and I was like, did you? I forgot about that.

I don't know. There's a lot of Kong that I haven't seen. Yeah, there is a lot of Kong. A lot of Kong. And a lot of Kong to go. We still have to talk about all these other... Oh, there's prequels. Oh, there's a lot of kong yeah there is a lot of kong a lot of kong and a lot of kong to go we still have to talk about all these other oh there's prequels there's more names and more call oh yeah yeah we'll get to the uh real quick though i'll say that i uh one of my memories of sitting next to a certain business on a tram tour once it's just oh yeah constantly saying uh skull island yeah skull we're going back we're going back well that's the truly when

you i mean like to compare contrast them that the the context of that tram version and granted it is the tram so the things on the tram can happen in a way of we're gonna go see a set and then we'll see what happens on the set but even they don't even really do that because you just sort of you're just driving in and peter jackson's talking to you we're gonna go back we're going back and then and you walk and you go into a dark room and then all of a sudden lights turn on and it's very impressive and the experience is impressive yeah but there really is something to building the story we are in 1931 we're fully yeah there's the drivers for sure there's the little set of skull island on the tram tour. They're still doing that, right?

Oh, the bigoture. Yeah. Because Peter Jackson, he wasn't happy just using a miniature. Of course. He wanted to step it up, and that's why we deployed bigotures. That's what we're about to see. I remember him saying that. Get your cameras ready.

You won't want to miss this and then we would drive by quietly it's the parting of the red sea effect yes that became yeah yeah part of the universal tram tour where you descend into a lake and then come back up out of it but they don't wait they brought it back when i was working there initially they were like we're cutting the parting of the seas oh yeah but then for a while it was this awkward thing where you're talking about king kong and then you have to go part the seas right okay now we're gonna see a bigoture so we're melding together it's now the ten commandments and it's it's the bible yeah plus the 2005 king kong i mean for a generation of filmmakers king kong was kind of like the bible well that's a very good point uh um 2005 one as well as we've been told again and again and again pretty much since i've had memories i've been told about how important king kong is uh yeah so so it's funny because

the movie skull island came out already five years ago but back then they say skull island on and in that part of the tram tour so much yeah and and that was not that wasn't on the tip of our tongues like it is now it's one of those the movie didn't really like keep okay so i find those things funny when universal has like so just like all of their claws i mean it sort of keeps happening i mean even like secret life of pets does not exactly like reverberate across all of our right like how many of those characters can we name but i also i appreciate the the risk involved because it feels like disney won't get out of bed they won't build something right franchise that made less than five billion dollars yeah so i kind of like that universal might go like we were probably close to getting They won't build something for a franchise that made less than $5 billion.

So I kind of like that Universal might go. We're probably close to getting a Beethoven dark ride. They had it drafted up. From the old Beethoven or is there a new Beethoven? Well, the inevitable reboot. Okay, yeah. Oh, yeah. That feels like a Disney Plus fodder, right?

Does Disney have Beethoven now? I don't think they do. Oh, no, that's a pride of Universal. That is Universal. Oh, yeah. That feels like a Disney Plus fodder, right? Does Disney have Beethoven, though? I don't think they do. Oh, no, that's a pride of Universal. That is Universal. Oh, yeah. It did have a strong... Thank God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beethoven and Missy and all the pups.

I don't want them to be on Disney Plus. I want them to be on which one? On Peacock. Wherever Universal movies go. Yeah, Peacock, I guess. Peacock sometimes. Okay. With Ambulance. Michael. With Ambulance.

Ambulance. Ambulance. Ambulance. Yes. Exclusive home to Ambulance. Ambulance. Okay. L-A-N.

Yeah, you have to stop the A at the L-A. Okay, anyways. Jason wants to say these names. Oh, no. Well, I was going to say these names oh no well i was gonna say because uh king king kong the peter jack king kong a movie i liked fine and i think made a lot of money and you know did well enough that is a kind of an early example of what feels so common nowadays where like a thing is coming out and it's pushed on you it's pushed in a way like light year might be an example of this where it's like it's pushed on you on the audience like you like this and you like this like this is a this is a classic movie this

new release is a classic movie like they they they were trying to reverse engineer a hit with long-lasting repercussions. It's too big to fail. There's no way. You don't have the option to not like it. Yeah, it's not organic. I feel like I'm wrong. The Kong Peter Jackson movie, which I do like in my memory of it, but I feel like it wasn't as big of a hit as they wanted it to be.

I think they wanted it to be like a Lord of the Rings hit. Yeah, because they were coming off that. Oh, yeah. That was probably the bar for him. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it was like, because I think they would have done more. Surely this man can hit the lottery a fourth time.

Sure. It's a fair expectation to put on a man. Only Cameron can do it. Only Jimmy Cameron can do it. And it's pre-internet marketing or like, well, we've seen the failures of organic viral sensations with the Morbius re-release just eating shit. It was very funny.

But if they had, they could have jumped on, everyone thought the commercial for this that takes place with Naomi Watts and King Kong in Central Park with a Coldplay song playing. That was very funny. I don't remember that. I have zero recollection of that. Do you remember what song it was?

It was like Clocks? It's King Kong, the song. It's a thing where they're looking at each other and it seems like it's a clock it's king kong the song it was it's a thing where they're looking at each other and it seems like it's romantic with the cold play song playing uh okay is it fix you i think it's is it i think it might be fix you i don't want to trying to get them to calm down we already have too many dangling plot threads on podcast right but i will say i'm sort of a cold play defender i will say that yeah i like cold play that adds up rush of blood to the head based on what has come up before not

shocking i don't mind cold clocks yeah clocks okay yeah i feel like that third album what is it what is that called i you know what i do like i still like what's the song what's the oh shoot what's the real poppy song that i jason say some facts quick get us off here okay they have this music video where a bunch of monkeys dance on an island oh damn it's related okay yeah like king kong um do you guys know by the way the story that naomi watts tells about david lynn like she was she had done 21 grams. She had done Mulholland Drive and she was weighing whether to do King Kong or not. So she asked David Lynch

whether she should do it. Naomi Watt says, I remember calling up David Lynch, who's my mentor. And he said to me, and I've heard her tell this story where she does the voice. So I'm going to do the voice.

Naomi, anyone who sits in the hand of King Kong is a movie star for life. And he wasn't wrong. She's gone on to great success. All because of Kong. Jessica Lange. Jessica Lange.

I don't know if Linda Hamilton sits in his hand in the bad one that she's in. Oh. But she was a movie star for life. Is that the Dino De Laurentiis like had to make a sequel yeah yeah yeah okay yeah where he eats like a bunch of crocodiles and then dangles their bones around oh the uh uh i think the main the the the jody benson i think is the voice of the character in the mighty kong the judley moore movie star for life so this is

already 98 choice story yeah yeah yeah i guess it's true it's true david is right think about jody yeah which of all the kong movies and i really we should have uh researched this before which one is the weirdest in regards to the romance between kong and the woman that's my question i don't know the answer, but I pose it to the listener. Well, I think in King Kong Lives, my favorite, it's a romance with another Kong. Yeah, well, that's good. That's appropriate.

Yeah, yeah, finally. Yeah. Yeah, they fixed that. Like, we finally, we got that one part out of it. So this King Kong will finally be the most successful ever made. Certainly not a thing that no one remembers except for Scott when Scott brings it up every two and a half years. The thing is, people don't want that.

They learned that people want a giant gorilla and a woman to be falling in love. That's what they want. That movie, that 86 one. That's the heart one? Yeah, that's what they want uh that movie that that 86 one i just that's the heart one um yeah yeah that's what the heart transplant yeah i saw a clip of uh cisco and ebert talking about it and they were like this is the part of the show where we normally show a clip but we don't have one because the studio said we'll let you play a clip on your local show in chicago but not the national

and they said no dice if this movie if you want us to sell your movie why wouldn't you send us a clip for us to show everywhere is it not good or something and then it went to shit and then they just yelled at it on their show without a clip see now now here now as far as youtube rabbit holes i've been watching a lot of siskel and ebert lately that's a good rabbit hole yeah yeah so yeah that's healing it's healing the gray matter in your brain ebert dead wrong about kids in the hall brain candy oh yeah what's up his butt that day ebert has a few big misses he's usually he did wet hot american summer wrong incorrect oh yeah he didn't get it you could tell he just didn't understand what yeah trying to be

yeah i feel like he's more right than he's wrong. But yeah, he has some big ones where he's wrong. But yeah, you can't bat a thousand. Except for us. Except for us. Except for us. Every opinion right. Transformers.

Correct. Celebrate it. Transformers better than Rise. Unlike the folly-prone Jinx Costanza. Jinx Costanza. Jinx Costanza. Frank. His name is revealed as Frank later on. Frank Costanza Jinx Costanza Jinx Costanza Frank his name is revealed as Frank later on but Frank Costanza

is Jerry Stiller yes on Seinfeld is that does Jerry Stiller have a con connection is that do you think that's a nod does he fall in love with a con it has to be a nod also somebody in the building must have said hey that's the name.

Yeah. Yeah, because that's weird. You can't just take that name. That's one of the great characters. It's kind of not said together. Hardin, New York City, ex-con, was wary of the island's mysteries. And he's prone to like, you know, my name's Jinx because I find myself in scraps a lot, you know? You think he said when I wrote it down, most people just call me Jinx in the voices like this

because I've had my share of bum luck. Bum luck. Before you ask, yeah, I heard about it, but I ain't seen no giant ape. Let's keep it that way. Like he's threatening him. Yeah. Yeah, whatever. Couldn't they have just gotten,

they should have gotten Jerry Stiller to do it. He may as well. Yeah. Unless he was still, yeah. There's a big monkey. I can't do Jerry, sorry. I mean, it would have been, like what a thrilling cameo you get on.

Oh my God. Oh, this is a, well, the character they own, you know. Wait, no, no, they don't own Seinfeld. No, Seinfeld broke away. Yeah. Yeah. And we're careful about it.

Broke out like Kong. Yeah, you can still get Jerry, though. Mm-hmm. And you can, like, wink-wink play the character. Yep. Anymore deadly games. Got him. This ride did not.

It's too bad. The final two. Kalana, a mystical descendant of the natives who first settled on the island the kalana the video where kalana is narrating uh immediately goes my people worship kong like oh i feel like that i as soon as you are pulling away that it's like gonna be straight with you well so we're gonna go see my god i'm pretty excited because we're gonna meet god today yeah uh charles doc jordan a phd student in paleontology who took time off from his studies to explore the world i don't know if you could take time off i mean you could probably you know

finagle some credit hours to exploring the world for paleontology. It still applies. Yeah. I think so. He should have overlapped him. But he's got the PhD. Especially if you're hanging out doing on-location studies at Skull Island. It's part of the Skull Island study abroad program. Yeah.

There's only about a 10% return rate. Yeah. You know, of returning. You're getting into a lot. The least they can get is like six credits, you know? They try to send your bones back to your parents if they are not mangled too thoroughly. I would have gone to school. No, I wouldn't.

That's too scary. My mom would not allow. It's pretty bad. You know, you get any of these drivers pull you in. I like that they customize it to where the archaeologist, Kate, says the name of all of these. They change that dialogue. So, you know, she'll say hey to Jinx.

Are you talking about Kate McCaffrey? Kate McCaffrey. I guess I am i just made sure there was another kate no no it's archaeologist kate mccaffrey um but she the way their little adventure starts where she just gets kind of pleasantries like oh hey what's up hey all right well we're gonna go back to the base camp and camp. And then I forget why the guy, they're trying to get more light on something. And then I think Joe is the guy that she's with who just says, here, I got it. And then fires a couple of flares and instantly a bunch of not bats, not bats.

No, no. It's a bunch of, god damn it, terrapas mordaxes. But it's just a flood. it's the dumbest move in history here i'll light it up bang bang terrapas mordax swarm instantly he gets picked up by one starts to carry him away she reaches up pulls him down then she gets picked up and he makes no effort to save her no he gets right he gets in a van what a coward yeah joe sucks yeah fuck you joe you should really be encouraged to get back to where to where everyone survived spoiler even kate made it despite a lot of monster encounters he's really boo joe yeah joe should be or kong should eat joe yes at the end should get punished yeah what they

you know like that the jurassic world babysitter got punished he should at least slightly poor babysitting he should at least like put him in his mouth for a while give him a good scare yeah yeah give him a stench he can't wash off for a couple weeks roll him around on his tongue with a closed kong mouth good like how how far back in the throat can he get joe without fully swallowing him like really make him see some shit what he could he could get him down okay would kong's stomach acid immediately dissolve joe's skin or could he hit the stomach acid and kong could put his fingers down his throat to make himself vomit again and puke joe back up if he's got flares he could maybe like electrify the stomach acid maybe there's like a diet coke mentos effect oh maybe oh yeah and then he flies up on flares

right out of the which then makes king kong cough uh-huh spits him right back out to safety okay yeah that would work perfectly as long as the acid isn't too strong to completely immediately destroy him. Yeah. Is King Kong's stomach acid stronger than ours? Right. Or is that part about him not particularly notable? That's a good question.

Or powerful? I don't know if they addressed that in any of the Kong movies. Jason literally looked at his watch. Huh? You checked your watch? Oh, it's just a habit i have well no that's a good that's a good indicator for the listener i was trying to go like how long have we been going trying to remember something about that made you start thinking about the time hey it's a good i look at my watch all the time when it's a good indicator oh you do yeah every now and then i often don't remember I'm recording. It's a good indicator. Oh, you do? Yeah. Every now and then.

I often don't remember when we started, so it's a useless gesture. Okay. Well, we got time for about two and a half more hours, right? Yeah, sure. Two and a half more hours about Kong's stomach acid. Yeah, yeah. That's what I want to talk about. And then we'll wrap up.

So Joe should get punished. He doesn't get punished. He doesn't get punished. She gets picked up and then kind of hacks her way free uh and then starts blasting everyone up yeah and those are the carnictuses the carnicti and they give you a splash out of those they get that you get your universal trademark which we've i've come around to now because we've said before all the universal same old trick no i think that's now the trademark. That's the director cameo in their work.

They wrote it out. It's like the Tarantino foot shots. Exactly. We know you're getting them. So buckle up. How good are they going to be? The little splashes you get at Universal. So yes, I like these.

They're good in this. And you know what? It's good atmosphere throughout too. Good reminder of Doug Jones' rule that watching a video is not going on it. Because a lot of my memory of it is atmosphere. It's like there's temperature changes and wind blasts. Like, there's a feeling to these rooms. Yeah.

Yeah. That's true. So, yeah, they are doing all of that extra stuff that the tram tour obviously doesn't have room to do. You get a splash on there but it's a little more and it's less uh clever i would say than feeling than feeling the innards of a big slug yeah by the way is so insane where there's mouths within mouths within mouths oh yeah there's a very it's a really gross are we talking about what's the the phallic looking thing

Yeah Yeah It is flesh It is human flesh It's really phallic And it's not again It's not my twisted Dirty mind

That everyone talks about From the show It's not that It just looks like A giant penis With a big With teeth Yeah

A pretty flaccid penis Sure Yeah I'm not commenting on The flaccidity Probably Seems right Probably But yeah No it's very flaccid penis sure yeah i'm not commenting on the flaccidity probably seems right probably but yeah no that's very i i did not remember it from from writing but i went i was watching the video and oh that's a big penis and you see one of those and you see one of those big penis big

big penises in the queue yeah which really wakes up i really that thing really comes to life and yeah that's just there there's an animatronic of that. There's animatronics at the very start of the ride of the... Got it. Yeah, of course, there's the big guy at the end. I think the cave stuff, the cave stuff filmed for this ride, too.

I have to say, I... Everything till the main event. event yeah you get like two big uh wait am i missing one or is there more than one or like two big film screen sequences before the before the fight oh yeah i think that's right yeah i remember thinking there were a ton of scenes when i wrote it the first time too um but yeah i think that's it is a long it's in the like it's it's like 6 30 or something is there is the run yeah yeah it is sizable yeah it is longer um i have to say i i think i really like the first two film scenes like more than the racing like stuff uh more than the driving like fast the fake out where you're driving faster

the stuff from the studio tour yeah like the new stuff it's better it's more like it's kind of easier to to track i would say moments you remember yeah a little more it's it's so like you know you're not sure where to look maybe in the the the main Yeah, and I think, like, I guess I just always wish they, like, finished the curtain. Like, it didn't have to be a full 360, but, like, to something on the roof of the car. Like, I don't know. I can see the edges.

Like, I feel like I shouldn't be able to see the edges. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I mean, it's tricky. I mean, with, like, even, like, Soarin', it's it's tricky i mean with like even like soren it's like you can depending on where you're sitting you can easily like obviously if you're at the bottom you see like the edge like it's always a little bit of like couldn't you have

done a little more so i don't have to see these edges sometimes like it feels like they could yeah that's just though i mean maybe that's just because we've been on these things a lot and people aren't actually registering that yeah yeah might i don't know i feel like i feel really guilty for saying anything in this area i think we're being ungrateful people who give us so much great material well i want to be hashtag grateful so i don't want to come off like that but sometimes you when you see the edges, you go, couldn't you? Come on. A little more.

Make the screen a little bigger. When transitions in screen rides are seamless, where you really don't, which I think of Transformers, I think of Spider-Man, I think of Harry Potter is it is pretty unbelievable you're like i really can't there's no like how how crazily did they put us in a physical position to never really see i didn't i think i don't remember exactly when but i didn't even know there was that elevator thing in transformers until fairly recently which oh yeah last couple years but i like had to watch a youtube video that points out the elevator that happens you know what i'm talking about yeah i guess so yeah like in the middle spider-man yeah in the middle of the ride all of a sudden you are you literally just go up on an

elevator which is crazy because i never noticed that and then in the video on youtube somebody specifically like took their phone and took a shot to like show you the actual physical movement of it and i was like i've never i never noticed that i've ridden this like so many times and your favorite ride just is the best ride yeah the gift that keeps on giving so amazing isn't it so yeah so so yeah i i see what you're saying jason edges yeah but i i think if i had to choose i'd rather do this than kong on the studio tour but i'd rather do fast and furious on the studio tour than in florida yeah it's over quicker yes yeah it's over quicker mercifully there's no separate line yeah i kind of love the insane cumbersome setups throughout

the studio tour where they have to go like hey that's a strange car like security still do that oh my god like i haven't been on in a while but i feel like i have an annual pass now and i have not i never go to that you haven't tried to get a two-year-old on that 45 minutes oh my god oh yeah absolutely nightmare oh my god there's a room and if there was any stall if there was a one minute stall. Oh yeah. Sweating and sweating. Son, look, Mr. Mayor has been canceled, but they're trying to film the finale. Okay.

They still owe it. It's a legal thing. Finish the story. The rumor is Fast and Furious coaster coming. This ghost. Hopefully that's true. That's the rumor. Yeah.

Yeah. We'll see. There's been many rumors that haven't panned out so we'll see but that sounds like they might like where do you think well there's a lot of speculation about where they were talking about getting rid of like animal actors and just putting it up on the upper lot gas um yeah so in that section there and some some even people people were like speculating you could kind kind of loop it around on the side of the mountain a little bit in a way, which sounds awesome. Yeah, geez.

But I don't know. Then other people were saying, I don't know, it could go anywhere on the lower lot. Go through the big minion's eye. That would be amazing. They really should do something like that. But yeah, so hopefully they'll correct the Fast and Furious problem. Because I think Velocicoaster as well gave people love velocicoaster yeah i think they're like they're high on coasters right now yeah

and that takes up like it's not a huge footprint either right because a lot of that's vertical yeah so yeah we'll see hopefully yeah um on this thing you i mean the like the sequence the main sequence i mean it's so it's it's a lot of dinosaurs who and they're not t-rexes not not t-rexes they're evolved v-rexes v-rexes yeah vastosaurus vasta vast vast i mean iast You want it You're really looking at it Like Vastasaurus But I'm seeing an extra Tato Like Tato Park Vastasaurus

Vastasaurus Like what Craig Healy Craig Healy would say Take it to Vastasaurus Headed to Skull and Island And we're in the back Vast

Vastasaurus Seems like it's bigger Or something Like vast Like that's a Descriptor for A land Doesn't seems like it's bigger or something like fast like that's a descriptor for a land more doesn't look like they're bigger violent yeah they're more violent uh i do not like when kong rips their skull like i always found that very unnerving there he like has both ends of the dinosaur's jaw and just rips it like... It's the most violent...

Cracks it like a nut. Outside of Horror Nights, like the most gruesome, violent death in all of theme parks, maybe? I think so. It's pretty crazy. Yeah. He snaps this thing's jaw. You don't really see the aftermath of it, but you certainly see the beginning. You kind of do.

You snap the thing and it kind of lies. You get a good half second of limp, and you're like, oh my god, Kong. Yeah. Gee, you couldn't get to kick him away? Yeah, this isn't a Batman doesn't kill situation. Right. He's more than willing to violently kill. The law of the jungle i understand

it i you know i know it but this is a zach snyder superman that's a real crack yeah just a quick quick it's a murderous hero you know yeah it's no that's that's shocking you really yeah yeah i watched a little bit watching and I was like, whoa, I forgot about that. Yeah. Kong, my goodness, I have to cover a child's eyes. Yeah. Let's see what Kong did to the Vastodosaurus. Mommy, the Vastodosaurus, what happened? Is it okay?

Is he going to Vastodosaurus heaven? Honey, no. He's just, they're doing a joke. They're having fun. Anyway, get him off the ride. He knows how to put him back together. He wouldn't do it if he didn't know how to put him back together. Yeah.

So, very shocking violence, but it does save us. I don't know. Kate is saved off screen, so I don't know what. It just made it separately so good. good for her but then you then you get the the big thing that the tram portion does not give you and has not

given you since a uh fatal fire a number of years ago that you do get a big animatronic king kong love this love that they knew that that's part of the experience. They were probably hearing the thing about screen rides. There's no conversation to me in terms of the tram tour used to have a big robot that you could see and now

you go sit between some screens and then leave. It's just not the same. You want to see that big robot you want to you want that banana breath and it's cool that they maybe did that calculation realize we gotta we owe a robot we gotta give them something yeah um it would have been yeah the only thing is like the old kong both kongs both coasts um there was like the kong uh existing in a large scale environment that's the only note i would give it because like this kong is like he's in a building perfectly built to his size

it feels like i see there's no sense of scale as opposed to when he was yeah messing with the bridge you know right he's big obviously he's a big kong and it's really awesome to see him but yeah the difference that the only thing i would say yeah the scale and the other rides is is kind of important to my love of big robot kong it's kind of weird that he just like looks at you mean i mean i don't love that i could that would be i guess be a plus up is just do something the budget yeah it feels like they just they begged the money people. Like, we need this Kong. And they're like, okay, you know how you want him to do something or give a thumbs up or put some sunglasses on?

No way. Too much movement. We need him cheaper, cheaper, cheaper. We don't want him breaking down. And they're like, all right, well, can he give him a wink? No, no, no, no, no. He just kind of has to breathe at them. He can exist.

He can exist there, and he can move a little bit Like it feels That's what it feels like to me Because again We've said it a million times Obviously The people making all this stuff I'm sure came up with

The coolest ideas possible Yeah And then this was probably Yeah the compromise So yeah It's better than nothing Of course Yeah

Smoke a big cigarette Fantastic Oh man Cool that'd be Classic Winston Oh fantastic Oh can I complain About a cigarette thing

Real quick What It's unrelated I just have to Cause I'm Super 7 is a company That makes toys And they're making

A Krusty the Clown toy And when they first Showed the pictures Of Krusty the Clown He came with a cigarette And he Handed out a cigarette And Mr. Teeny

Who has smoking A cigarette as well And I was like Holy shit This is the greatest thing ever Disney stepped in and said no cigarettes and now they've had to revise the toy

no cigarette Disney stepped in well that's yeah because I was shocked that they let it because I remember we were I was texting people texting Justin Michael look at this Krusty the Clown cigarette we're like yeah we want to see it we want to get it and then no Disney stepped in and they texting people, texting Justin Michael, look at this, Krusty the Clown cigarette. We're like, yeah, hell yeah.

We want to see it. We want to get it. And then, no, Disney stepped in and it sucks. Can't have good things. That's really like, yeah, I think they're going to change some minds with the people, with the 30-somethings buying. Some adult collectors.

A toy monkey. Yeah, kids are going to be like, Mr. Teeny is smoking with my dad's $45 adult collectible toy and now I'm going to smoke

I want to be like that minor character monkey yeah oh gosh so annoying to me yeah anyway

anyway the robot Kong I mean this is where I will be grateful I'm happy to see my friend King Kong I feel warmly

to King Kong I'm happy to see a giant animatronic Kong again I am happy to see my friend King Kong. I feel warmly to King Kong. I'm happy to see a giant animatronic Kong again. I am happy too. I am grateful for Kong as well. I don't want you to think I'm not. And he does look emotive. He does. I'm glad he's there.

Yeah. No, it's great. I think they did a good job. It was, you know, one article was pointing out, article from the time this came out, that this was Universal's first big attraction in the Florida parks since they built Diagon Alley. So I'm sure there were unreasonable expectations.

Oh, yeah. That it's like, well, you build a massive giant land, surely you're going to hit it out of the park with this one. And I think it's a solid B plus, A minus. Yeah. I think it's a rock solid with this one and i think it's a solid b plus a minus you know i think it's a rock solid ride like absolutely it's fine it's like a ride they didn't need to have but they they did it look i don't know this is it's where universal is at as opposed to disney i don't think disney's building rides that they don't need to be like right it feels like a blockbuster nothing and then you go years between things and boy what

they've added but they've added especially lately to universal orlando in terms of mid-level not even mid-level they're all like blockbuster but they it's like somewhere between d and e ticket there's just a like i just i think all the time about how much they are winning the war. D pluses. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't sound great. Disney pluses.

They're doing a lot of Disney pluses. But they had a run there where it's like Cabana Bay opens, the water park. Volcano Bay. Volcano Bay. You can easily name the hotel. Well, there are two bays. Well, I know one of them is a water theme park. I know that for a fact.

Well, the third park. The third park. The water theme park. That's the only thing I don't like about them. I know. Hate it. Not a third gate volcano bay. I mean, they also opened Jimmy Fallon after.

But, you know, what are you going to do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, it doesn't make them not be winning the war, I don't think. When's their fourth park opening? Isn't it in a couple years? 2025? 2025? Makes me wish it wouldn't be built not be winning the war, I don't think. When's their fourth park opening? Isn't it in a couple years? 2025? Makes me wish it wouldn't be built.

That's how awful that is. To hear that it's the fourth? No. No. You have yet to see the volcano up close, though. Yeah. So you'll sign off on it. Good enough.

I'll sign off on the- This is good enough that it's the third park. The volcano itself is good enough for the third park. The water slides, not as much. Uh--huh but the volcano is third park worthy but the but the slide the theming around it is not as okay as good or existent at all right because as you're standing on the slides you can just see the houses on the street over across the street yeah it is right along the freeway yeah i know because you go that volcano is incredible you go inside it you're like i was just like sitting in that wave pool like looking up and going this thing is

incredible wow and then you go on the slides and yeah you're just like there's some houses over there yeah yeah that's breaks the immersion a little bit um yeah i i remember i saw that when i was down for that bachelor party last summer which is when i did this attraction i i broke off from the group to do it i chickened out of hulk i'm not quite there on all that seems like exactly above the line for me but it was also a good excuse to go do this i wanted to see this over the course of that is the first time that i had the best beer in theme parks the island new bar ib ipa uh so great oh my god and it kind of like we probably we'd like there were like shots before we got in the car to go so i was already a little hazy got that island new bar ipa kind of fucked me up and like it's like sort of a i don't know

like pretty high alcohol content i think. And something between that and the atmosphere of this queue, it was like, there was just a lot, like it is scary. It's so like misty and dark. We didn't even talk about that animatronic, the like creepy lady. Oh, yeah. The Shaw woman, they even say. Okay. And that she was warning you to not you know to get out of there and um

just like i just remember like i was in such a mood and i also i was trying to hook back up with them and failing to do so i didn't know if they just weren't checking their phones yeah or if it was a reception issue issue but so it's all i'm kind of in a haze the the line is scary i'm starting to genuinely think am i gonna like lose the group what if i have to go home by myself and what if my phone runs out of battery and i don't remember how to get back to the house with iron man on the wall and on top of it uh it was becoming very clear how much delta was a big real threat so i was also yeah yeah i'm getting delta right now in this line this is the most claustrophobic line.

I think I even waited out a breakdown. I think it was like, it's going to be down for a minute if you want. And I did stay in there. But then over the course of that, oh, but that means I'm getting Delta. So I'm getting, there was so much hitting me all at once. And it probably wouldn't have all been freaking me out as much without the atmosphere of the queue. Oh, yeah. It really did put me in a mood and transport me.

So, yeah, it's as close as I can come to saying an unskippable. Because it really, yeah, it gave you the fear. It gave you the fear. Yes, and it sparked my actual, my other fears. Buoyed by real life fears. Yeah. Of disease and loneliness and abandonment. indeed no it's a very dramatic situation i i felt like uh kate i worried they were gonna they were all gonna be joes and leave me in the land yeah try to explain that too to jinx costanza

and he's like delta I've heard of some great music coming out of the Mississippi Delta, but I don't know what you're talking about, pal. I don't want, I've never seen no Delta around here. Let's keep it that way. But the Mighty Kong rescued you. Yeah. He rescued all of us.

In a lot of ways. We all fell in love with him. We all sat in his hand in a certain way. Wouldn't that be a better plus? He made us all stars. We were all Kong stars that day. If I could plus it up, because that's what I would do. It's a good ride if I plus it up.

If we could somehow touch his hand or sit in his hand. I know you're not supposed to touch stuff on rides. Well, that plus up is an experience you can have outside of a lot of wax museums that's true uh so you could so you got that you could go do that but like what if you put his hand up against the tram or put up against the car and you could kind of like touch it oh boy yeah that'd be great yeah i guess you would still like snag clothing and some somebody ripped out accidentally maybe but yeah He's just got to keep it there for a while and you're supposed to immediately understand

that this is so that you can touch him. Well, he would say it, I think. Touch me. Touch me. Touch me. Feel me. Hold me. Thrill me.

Kiss me. Kill me. Yeah. Plus it ups. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to plus this up because i think yeah my gripes that i've already shared is like open like a bigger space to see the kong robot and yeah and you and oh okay i was gonna say i think i have a plus up which is that i really like um

in the redone jurassic park uh boat ride at universal hollywood the jurassic world ride there was like an indoor habitat like number the top up at the top yeah there's kind of a jungle at night i would say 86 the studio tour footage 86 that and just build a habitat in there and use some of those screens like they like have some practical dinosaurs and maybe like a small kong in the distance use some of those screens like area screens they have in like um the navi river journey that kind of like blend into the practical scenery and i guess it's hard to be do a big dramatic climax like a big fight scene but they did something interesting with practical stuff in a limited space and i i just think you could do that here could so you want to see it what

actually now i understand what you're asking for you want to see uh robot kong kill the robot vasta yeah i wouldn't see the crack and we wouldn't want to see the robot have its jaw come unhinged. Yeah. You want that sound to be coming from the robot. Yeah. That's the tough. It is tough because so much of this stuff, action-wise, it's so hard to do that with robots.

It's almost impossible. So it is tricky. I mean, what you're saying, I think you could do it, but I feel like you'd have to do it the whole time. You'd have to get the audience used to the reality of the ride with like screens and robots so like if the climax i like the idea it's just yeah it would be like a little jarring maybe but maybe not um my plus up isn't for this it's for volcano bay it's you make it skull island you turn you reshape the volcano and it's then it's you're in king kong's

stomach and the water on all the sides is his stomach so he's the it's not the volcano is not on skull island he is the volcano yeah yeah you turn him into the volcano yeah yeah i guess you have to you give him a head or something but yeah you're crawling you're you're when you're any time any slide that you're going on you're lost in his innards so sure they're still more feasible than when they were going to try to build a king kong that you would board and then would climb the stratosphere oh that's right oh that's such a cool idea uh that is great so the volcano i just want to go back to the volcano real quick because like they do a little show where the volcano erupts every so often. So Kong would have some sort of acid reflux every 45 minutes and like throw up bile into the people in the wave pool.

That's him vomiting. Yeah. But it's good because it adds more acid to the wave pool. Add more acid to the wave pool. Yeah. And then every, you know, there's only, you start up there at the top of his body, he's only so many ways out. So you're trying to every slide is

trying to get out of king kong's dick or butt uh okay uh that's good yeah uh if you as long as you can touch his hand in that instance i think i would be fine with it definitely because yeah look i'm here thinking dirty you want soft intimacy i want soft i think there's room for both at this new improved skull island okay so skull island is the official third park of universal yes now that i would yeah once they do this yeah yeah yeah ride the movies slide the stomach acid um you survived podcast the right i think you've survived if you've been listening you were just like tumbling around inside of our stomach acid our our guts our brain our brain acid i really should say are inside of our skulls and

you lighting up a couple flares is when i go like oh my stomach my stomach hurts let us out of this bill maher heavy episode, what have I done? Um, and yet I'm going to encourage people to go back in and slosh around some more because you can find us on all the socials at podcast. The right merch is available in our T public store. And for three bonus episodes every month, check out podcast, the ride,

the second gate, or get one more monthly bonus episode on our new tier club three. You'll find all that at patreon.com slash podcast the ride might bear mentioning in this one the quick programming note if you want a sense of what's going on on the new tier in club three the third but the the earned third park of uh so we're the month one more monthly bonus episode beyond what you already get on the second gate we just did our first poll of what are those topics going to be uh narrowed it down to five we got to hundreds of great ideas from everybody but the the king kong the ultimate the the one to

beat by far was the topic suggestion eva anderson talks about whatever she wants uh one by uh by a landslide by a stomach acid slide and uh i just want to say that's coming eva has been we have we have reached out to eva we've sent up the eva flare uh she responded uh like a bunch of Skull Island bats. She overnighted us a box full of crocodile bones. And that could really mean anything coming from you. It'll make sense when we do it. So I just want to hype that up. That'll be coming at some point in July. It might even take a minute to come together,

so be patient, but that'll be coming in July on Club 3. That's at patreon.com slash podcast the ride. We hand things over to eva which probably might be the best choice yeah the listeners are really trying to tell us something here hey what do you want us to talk about uh why don't you let someone else someone else decide you monsters you vastasauruses uh yeah so so that's fun. Whatever it is, is fun. I know that.

Yeah, yeah. We're going to figure it out. The expedition begins. And real quick, I just want to say, if Peter Jackson, talking about Peter Jackson, and we just did Get Back, which we all watched, obviously, over the Christmas break. If you want to hear a discussion about it,

Sammy and Bill talk about it on Club Random, and they have some interesting takes on it. Were the Beatles important to those guys growing up? But not the Frighteners. They don't touch on the Frighteners. I haven't finished it yet, but so far they have not touched on the Frighteners. Zero on Frighteners. Not so much about the Peter Jackson filmography.

Yeah, I don't know. But Big Up Back, yes. All I know is that it broke Sammy's heart. And it was hard for him to watch. Well, he's had some band strife of his own. Maybe we'll get a documentary about that one day. That's what he says. Fingers crossed.

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