Podcast: The Ride - Spooky World with Mike Scollins

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

SCOLLINS 2: THE RETURN.Mike Scollins (Late Night with Seth Meyers) reanimates a beloved haunt from his youth: Spooky World! A place that showcased serial killer wax figures and long lines to meet Butch Patrick (The Munsters '64).See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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All this plus, Mike Scallens returns to talk about the dead theme park Spooky World on today's Hauntcast, The Fright. Welcome to Hauntcast the Fright, a scream park podcast hosted by three ghosts whose main scare tactic is telling people way too much about Walt Disney's nurse Hazel George. My name is Michael Richmond Myers. Joining me as always, Skart the clown.

Oh, sorry. That's you. You know, you know. It did throw me off. I know. Because when you do it, you go to Jason first. So I really was waiting.

I was like I missed a cue in a show. Oh, my God. I'm here. I'm here. Inadvertently, a great art of the clan impression of just silence. Oh, I see. He's like, does miming. He doesn't talk.

Oh, great. Well, here, do it again and then move to Jason. You can start with me again. You want me to do it? Joining me is always, Skark the Clown. Oh, and Jason, oh, sorry, what is it? Horneau the Candyman. Hornow the Candyman.

Mine changes week to week. Not anymore, it doesn't. No, no, it's Hornet of the Candyman from now on. That's what we're doing. Recent second gate events, it's Horneau the Candy Man. Yeah, yeah, you were outvoted. I mean, initially, Scott rejected my idea to change your name, but now I think he's fully on board now that the Horns.

Horno element came in. Now that he, that first name was there, I think he likes that. Candyman was not as, not as well received. But yeah, I don't know.

We have a lot to talk about today. I think we should probably just bring in our guests. Sure. He's returning. He's from late night with Seth Myers. He's, what would you say? I'm trying to think of like a,

I called Landen a horror bon vivant, and I'm trying to think of another sort of. We can't call him Horneau the Candy Man. I can't call him Horneau. That's what I'm trying to think about Halloween, like either a. moniker. Maybe he's got it. It's Mike Scallens. I thought of it on the walk over. Oh, you did great.

And I'm going with, the skull is coming from inside the house. Oh, that's great. That's really good. That's really good. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for coming back on the podcast. It's been too long. Thank you. Thank you. Schall for short. Thank you, Scall. Yeah. Because you are a Halloween enthusiast, I would say. You're a Bon vivant too. I am a Bond von. I am a I love the season of Halloween more than the actual day. I don't, I'm not like wearing a costume kind of guy. Okay. But I love, like, spooky movies on TV. I love going through haunted houses, which I know we're going to talk about.

Right. So the season I really enjoy. I just love getting to, like, drive around that just like a boring, a drive from the gas station or something that all see like crazy Halloween decorations. Or it like, it just like colors every bit of every day for the month. And LA does it in a way that New York does not. Is that sound? Yes. We don't celebrate in the same way.

Well, is it tougher in the city? Is it like meant for suburban living in houses? I think it's meant for houses. And also there's a space issue in New York. But like we don't have a great haunted house in New York. Sorry to Blood Manor if they're listening. Well, because this year you don't have Jimmy Fallon's to nightmare. Which I went through last year.

Did you? Oh, you did tonight. Yes. I wouldn't say a special trip, but like I work on the eighth floor and it was on the first. So we did go during lunch. Wow. Yeah, that's too bad. I didn't realize I forgot about tonight.

Nightmare's. Yeah, yeah. So, no, not again. It didn't come back. I mean, to Nightmares is like a, it was, it's a universal, uh, horror night's house that happens to be at 30 Rock. So as complete as does, like, well, we got to go through it. Yeah.

And, uh, I got to say, it was like pretty good for a house that I took an elevator down to. It was worth the truth. Yeah, like, there was like, there was a budget in it, which was nice. Sure, sure. Yeah, yeah. Have you tried to contact anyone at the company to like, be like, well, I could create a new maze. Oh, yeah. I don't know.

I'm a late night. character myself. I'm a late night personality. I mean, I mean, Fallon's also got like his own ride. Right. Yeah, yeah. Seth, I think the branding is different. I don't know what that, what that house looks like. But even not Seth related. You're how Trump's bad. Any NBC character, I feel like you're like, you could.

It would be my dream. You'd have to spend it off. Yeah, yeah. One of, one of my buddies works for WWE and is a huge horror nerd. And it just got put in his lap this year. Do you want to do the WWE house? Right. At Universal. Wow. Like, did not chase it at all.

And he was like, this is the best, like, most creatively fulfilling thing I've ever done. Is that the thing you went through? Yes. And this was the thing I was saying where the Orlando version has a version of what they call guerrilla or the backstage production area. That's the one I went through. And that's the one I was jealous of because out here, it's mostly just sort of swamp and, like, Wyatt family lore.

And I wanted to actually go through the, like, approximation of what a production area of WWE show would look like. So you got to do that. That's what we got. And it was pretty sick. Yes. Yeah. So are you again covered, you did Florida.

And you travel for Halloween. Yes. I do the bare minimum one week in October where I can call it a work trip to L.A., but it's based around going to Nauts, going to Halloween Horn Nights. We did the L.A. Hey, Ride last night. Oh, great. But I haven't done Hora Nights here yet. I'm going tonight.

Okay. Okay. Yeah, so you've done Nots. Yeah, we went to Nots on Sunday. Yeah, you did a second Nots visit. I did a second Nauts. It's been a little chaotic. There's coyotes in our backyard, but I was like, I got to go.

I do one of these again. And then I ended up. Wow. You know, you've got a little, you've got a little Halloween treats. It's terrifying. I saved the dog from being eaten by a coyote a couple nights ago. You did? I remember that happening previous in your, you know, because your apartment was in the Burbank Hills and you had a close call.

We did have a close call. Just coming right to your yard. They're in the yard. Yeah, they've been at multiple nights. There's a big coyote shit in our driveway. Like, they're taunting me now with how raising they are. I don't like seeing one down the block. Yeah, if there was one in the yard, I'd be free.

There's a pack of three at just like 11 a.m. In the front yard. pack of coyotes. A pack of coyotes. Multiple coyotes. The neighbors are scared. It feels like a horror movie right now. Well, you know what scares off

coyotes in the yard. Woman in the yard? The horror movie woman in the yard. I kind of know that's a movie. You know there's a simple solution to this, right? You got to get the woman in the yard. Conjured the spirit known as. Is it any woman in a yard or just the one woman would work?

I believe the full name is the woman in the yard. Okay. So it has to be that specific woman. On the lot, they had the woman, like, sitting on a patch of green on the back lot, just like as people were going to the commissary and stuff. And how many coyotes did you see? Well, none. None. The pictures look like mail today. That's right. There's your answer right there. There you go. So anyway, I made it to nuts. I'm sorry you're living a spooky existence. I actually do think there is something to, like, maybe, you know, because, like, there's signs all around Burbank saying what to do in case of coyotes. a lot of which is like hazing is the term and making loud noises. So it might actually help.

I don't know what you got going on Halloween decoration-wise, but it could be something to like put a bunch of noisy stuff out there. Yes, we are working on it. I don't know that it's all Halloween themed. Uh-huh. But there are a lot of themed red coyote lights

that you can put in your backyard that would double as Halloween decorations. Oh, wow. That's smart. Like a little plastic like raccoon face with two red eyes. Wow. which that sounds kind of neat regardless of practical one of them looks like venom you can buy

one that looks like venom it's not branded like a venom like coyote that was I was trying to think of that phrase the other day when he first mentioned coyote was coming at you well yeah coming right at me what's it called what's it called but yeah the official city like they're like you said there are signs and warnings of like coyote haze the coyote don't haze your pledges but Hayes the Coyotes. At Burbank University. Father the coyote. But you know what?

I wanted to bring a little bit of spooky spirit to the room, and I know there's much to get through. And yet, you know, maybe, look, I'm willing to donate this to you if you think it'll help solve the problem. But mainly I just, like, you know, with Mike visiting us today, I just wanted everybody to meet the newest member of the Gardner family. Oh, my God. Check out this guy.

Wow. This is a weird little three-foot-tall skeleton. He doesn't have an official name, so it's on us to name, if anybody's got an idea. But here's why I wanted to bring him in and put him on mic. And at this point, I'm going to turn him around because his speaker is in the back. Okay. And I sort of, I mean, I just wanted everyone to experience this song, you guys in the room and listeners as well. But also, play attention because I need some help, because I've watched this thing run a dozen times.

and I cannot make out the lyrics of this song. The first few, maybe, but just help me out around like the fourth or fifth thing he says. Okay. If you can parse it. All right. Here we go. Okay, all you go. Dance around like fools.

Spread some room. All around the room. The rhythm will start That's the one. What is that? I don't know. I heard the rhythm will start. Yeah, all you go, schools dance around like fools.

But I didn't hear, they said, spread some things. Some gloom? That rhymes with school. I think it's gloom, yes. All around the room. Around the room. The rhythm won't, will start. Is it something about drop?

It made a little more sense to me that time. maybe it's not there are some clear rhymes and some imperfect rhymes yes if it's if indeed it's start and drop then I think that's throwing me start and drop I would say is an imperfect rhyme that's incredibly oh no no I meant like gloom and room work gloom and room works yeah that's final yeah I've just I've been struggling with this and I thought you know what I'll help is if any listeners can parse it through the the worst quality speaker coming from a skeleton being put up to a podcast Wow. Yeah. Did you buy it because like that beat, there's like a little bit of a print. It feels like the beat is Prince inspired maybe. I thought it completely had the Minneapolis sound.

Yeah, it does. To me it has the LMFAO sound. Yeah. Once the music comes in, it's a little different, but the beat itself, the drums itself feel a little bit. Are we sure it's not Prince? We're not sure. Oh, this is a skeleton of the artist. I mean, it's like a little shorter than. the normal human Prince was very short

It's a shorter It's musical Probably what he looks like At the moment And he And he and his eyeballs Kind of He would bug out his eyes

With you know Kind of challenging faces Wow Oh my God Prince is here Thank you Wow I didn't mean to outshine

You as a guest Mike No I mean Now I know that prince We'll agree I come second to Prince On the podcast Well Well any here

Let's see if we can Vocally activate him If he'll just naturally turn on He's just going to start playing seven. Any strong feelings about, you know, you live up by the Mall of America. Did you ever make it in there? That's kind of a, there's a theme park in there.

All right. Same answer. That's all we're going to get out of that. I will not leave him on because we'll end up activating him every 10 seconds. It's like Leonard Cohen singing on a Prince song or something. Oh, God, Julia. Do you say hallagulia? Yeah.

Okay, that's pretty good. You know, you didn't get enough acknowledgement there. I'm glad you. It was so slick. You weren't calling attention to it. I don't say anything. I'm going to try it again later. No, no, no.

That was good. I mean, thanks for putting the spot. Yeah, yeah. It really was in the back of my mind. Somebody, like, tapped my front part of the brain. I was like, hey, did you hear what he said? Like, it really felt like a, we've got conscious.

We've been saying we need more proper Halloween songs. Yeah. Just reappropriated songs like man eater or whatever. Right. Hallelujah. Oh, that is good. Okay, we have a good topic. Real quick, Knott's highlights.

Let's do a little, and Scott went to Knott's with me as well. Yes, yeah, yeah. We've sort of under-discussed it. We didn't fit it into it. The other one was mainly about Horror Nights. And correct me from wrong, this is like your, that was like your first haunt ever. Well, horror nights. Yeah, I'd done like one quick pop into one maze and then gotten the hell out of there.

But this is the first that I stuck it out. And I felt great. I had a great time. I had a blast. Knott's is always the one I look forward to the most because I feel like they, do the most with the least like they don't have the budget that Halloween Horanites has which is why they don't like turn over

the houses as often so it's a lot of repeat houses but some of like the set pieces are pretty great considering they don't have the IP that Halloween Horanites has so they just have to like get creative yeah yeah and I always love the original houses more than the IP houses anyways did you guys do Slash or Cinema

yes yes Jason didn't oh you're lighting yeah yeah Slash cinema is my favorite every year that's really great and it yeah this is the one where you're You're going from screen to screen in a movie theater and, like, different types of horror movies are coming to life mixed with these great transitional scenes that are almost the best of a, like, decaying creepy movie theater. Yes, which is like very much my aesthetic. They pump in some like buttered popcorn smell in there. It's great.

Yeah. And also walking through the screen into the movie is such a great simple effect. Yeah. And it really does, it doesn't suffer from lack of IP. You get kind of a, all right, this is sort of a canvas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you understand that enough. And that's the one that's been cloned for another, for six flags.

That's right. Oh. So there's another version of it somewhere. It's a franchise now. Okay, okay. So I wonder, yeah. And that's still got another year, I think. Yeah.

What was new? Was it new this year or a year ago? There's one that is called Widows. That's not new. It's not new from last year. Okay. But great. Yeah, yeah.

Five last, spiders meet old folks home. Yes. Yeah, you start an old folks home that's falling apart and there's much of old ladies. And I think I mentioned it last year where there was like, one old lady especially last year that just like locked eyes with me and was just like help and I really felt it last year it is really sad you're like it's really scarier than a woman whose husband passed let's go talk at these poor ladies that is yes and none of their families visiting and now they're terrorized by spiders yeah it almost like happy for the company

it almost gets less scary because it starts out the first half is like old folks home and like the sadness of like getting old and dying and stuff and like all of that. But then it just like ends up in like this weird like kind of spider like a lot like you're inside a giant spider and there's a spider queen and then you kind of like end up. I don't even know how to describe it in like some sort of spider world. Yeah. Sort of at the end, which is still scary and has awesome effects. But I'm like the first half is scarier because it's more realistic.

It's the horror. It's the real world. Yeah, yeah. Yes. And it's this is existing. But I still love the whole thing. And then the spider queen at the end reminds me of either the Borg queen or the Captain E.O. queen. Yeah, yeah.

Because it's like she's hanging there and there's a big spider body. You got a lot of people up on wires and see. A lot of wire work. The scares coming from above in a couple of mazes. Yeah. Uh-huh. And it's, yeah, it's great. The new one is the zoo.

That was what I was going to ask you. Because I chickened out, again, there's a thing they do after midnight for the new zoo, which is like a Dr. Moreau style like alien, not aliens, It's an animal, human hybrid. So it's like a mad scientist's lab. And then after midnight, they turn the lights off and you get flashlights to go through. And we didn't do that. I would say chickened out in doing that.

Also, we were tired. Well, I was just, you were, did you go to the zoo my night? Yeah, yeah. I was just like, we were literally at the exit. And I'm like, I've been brave tonight. And I've walked 20,000 steps tonight. I'm going to walk the remaining steps to my car. Sorry, zoo.

I did a couple extra ones. But then when we were there on Sunday, I chickened out yet again. I was also completely exhausted, but I did chicken out, really. It's just my cowardice. I asked you, how was it going through the zoo? Oh, you did it. You did the ultimate zoo. I did it.

I did it. I think it's more fun with the lights on. I want to see all the set. Oh, really? I went through and I wasn't like I'm more scared now because the lights are off. It just kind of felt like something was broken. Well, now I feel like a loser because it wasn't even that scary. But you got the better experience, I think.

Okay. With the lights on. We also, when we were there on Sunday, because when Scott, Matt and I were there, it felt like maybe like we were going through everything faster, and I don't know what it was, but we were going through everything pretty slow. So I was really like getting a lot more

like a nerving feeling going through all the houses. It did you get out more? There's a big difference between Knott's and Horror Nights, where horror nights, like, half the people in those houses are ones that are just like trying to push you through and be like, keep it moving, keep it moving. Yeah. Notts does not care if you hang out for a while.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can really, like you can have a seed. There's not as many people. There were a couple houses, especially Sunday, where I was like, did 75% of the performers call in sick today? And it's so glaring when it's like, there's supposed to be a person here. We all know this, and that person's just nothing. But I did see a live stream where someone was saying, because for a little while, you could live stream from Nott's houses. And then after a week or two, they're like, no more live streaming in the houses.

I'm glad that they stopped. videoing and I someone's like oh I can't believe this is this is the end of this and it's like no someone probably was annoying or dangerous and also it's not great to go through a very lit place with like a glowing camera you know so they kind of you know the they universal in Florida universal out here you can just live shoot whenever you want. Universal on the floor is like you can only record in the houses if you have media pass on opening night.

Hmm. Well, these rules. I don't know how I feel about these rules. Is it because they're worried about like your video is not going to be like up to par for what we're trying to present or it's inconsiderate to the other people trying to go through the house? I think the latter. I think it's a mix of like inconsiderate maybe unsafe to the guests and the quarters.

Because I understand them being like we'd rather release our own walkthrough of this ride that looks really good. Yeah. But also I just don't want a stand by signs. someone that's got their flash on and is why that's I think everyone's trying to figure it out and where the line is the companies I mean and trying to figure out especially with like six flags and Cedar Fair merging I think they're trying because yeah some of the house the house had been duplicated I think I heard like oh this merch at six flags you can buy kind of generic

like monster or spooky clown t-shirt you could buy it at knots and at six flags and we need to send out a bulletin if you can find the same clown shirt at multiple six flags we need to figure out where they're cloning

the merchandise now because I am interested in what's happening we're on to your skin the cost saving measures here that are happening now that this merger has gone through did you guys get a chance to do something that Mike and I sadly did not I was bummed that we missed the hanging because this is my first opportunity to see the hanging.

The hanging being the topical horror show that involves the killing of big pop culture figures from the year. It starts taking the place of the Bill and Ted show at Universal. You guys didn't make time for the hangar. No, because everything takes a lot of time to do everything. We left right before closed and had just enough time to do all the houses. And that was without, we didn't stop for a meal. We didn't go to a live show.

Did you see it? I would have loved it. No, I just, I watched it online. Did you end up watching it online? We watched a bit of it just like kind of at the gate. We were like sadly peering over a little fence to try to see it. Who were they taking down this year? Oh, well, Labuboos.

There was a big Labubu for sure that got hanged. Epic Universe. Oh, that's portals. They like that. The one said same shit and the one said different day. I mean, you guys talk a lot about how like the music, in a theme park is always like 10 years behind when we're listening to it.

That's pretty topical to be like we're going to take down the booboos in theistic universe. No, no, and wraparounds based on weapons. That's right, that's right on the money. Yeah. And it's possible people could miss that.

Like, I don't think of like theme park audience. Like every person here is seen weapons. Right. So I was impressed by that. But also, all right, I just, I think my favorite aspect of it is that there is a fight between

a physicalized big beautiful bill and the Epstein list the two paper items are giant suits and they fight and clash and I love this because like I imagine something like the hanging

every year faces the thing of like okay we live in a sadly a monoculture that is always based around the same fucking idiot president we have and like you know they don't want it like hey what do we do we have to have kind of a bad sub James Austin Johnson and we don't like it for we want to hang it folks this is not a satisfying impression folks so like

that they have to think of new stuff to do i'm sure they're dying to do something that is not just so so that so to land there a big epstein list is going to be flopping around i think that's pretty good or even it's pretty good too yeah yeah yeah and the fact that like you know that even you know knots hasn't lost those they're trying to distract with you know with different you know different stories and different scandals, but Knott's make, even Knott's Berry Farm wants to make sure we pay attention to that Epstein list.

Right. I'm more may as they remember the specific, the big beautiful bill. Yes, yeah, yeah. That's hard to recall of this. Yeah, that was like three months ago. I think it's, the ramifications of it are ruining people's lives.

Don't get me wrong. But the phrase, the big beautiful bill, stuck around or someone scribbled it on a post-it. And it was like, okay. Remember this for Halloween. I mean, after Chuck Schumer very successfully rebranded

at the big ugly bill. Yes. We all thought we all thought we don't remember. That's right. Taco Trump, you know, they're going to get it one of these days. He's going to send enough stern letters. Yes.

One of these days. Yes, we have issued an official tisk tisks in the Senate. That'll show them. Are cooked. In between laughing sessions in the Oval Office, which apparently most politicians do all the time. With mentioning the Epstein list and having the Epstein list run around and get in a fight,

I think the hanging has been tougher on the Trump administration than the Democratic resistance. Also, I know Knott's is like for a little bit older kids, but like, there are a lot of kids are like, what is the Epstein list? And parents having to have like an awkward conversation about like, well, I'm going to ruin your night right now and tell you what it is. Yeah. If it makes you ask the question, then it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

educational. It is, yeah. And Noss's goal was to, like, educate people about what Republicans are up about Republican politics. We say that, but there is probably, like, a full, like, folding kind of cardboard science fair presentation in Roblox, like, where kids have been, like, tracking the names and the victims and the associates, and it's like, I don't know. I mean, block Prince Andrew was there?

On Block Island? Prince Block was there? Skylands, we mentioned Epic Universe. You were down there a few a little while ago. Went on Labor Day weekend to tie into the opening weekend of Halloween Hornites. Epic Universe is great. I think I agree with you guys that I was expecting it be a little bit bigger than it was. But Monsters Unchanged is much changing.

And we got on three times, which I don't know what that means for how popular that ride is, but we got on... It's weird. Is it just that it's efficient? That it moves... Maybe. Those electronics are terrific in there. Yeah.

Yeah. That's the one I've been dreaming about ever since. You know, I liked various things at that part, but that's the only one. That is like worth the price of admission right there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I think it's very efficient. Real quick about Nott's, and I want to say, look, Nats, thank you for inviting us after I bitched about not being invited. Apparently that worked somehow. I put it into the universe

that we wanted to go, and thank you for that. That's my question is, did it work? I don't know. But I don't even mean I put it into the universe. We're not even speaking just on someone heard it and invited us. I put it out there, as people say. And then it was the universe answered.

So that's the way I like to think about it. A vision board. We went on your bitching vision board. My bitching vision board, which does come true a lot. It works when I bitch. We went a ghost writer on Sunday. And this is something, something happened to me on this. It's never happened to me on a coaster before.

And I haven't been on Ghost Rider in a while. And every time I go on, it scares me how crazy it is. Yeah. We should say if you don't, if you haven't been on Ghost Rider, like really clackety wooden roller coaster. Yes. And it's not like a hundred years old. It's barely new. No, but it's in the condition of a hundred year old.

It looks like one. Thematically in a good way. And it feels like one in probably a not on purpose way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. So I was holding a jacket and I was wearing a hat and they were like, put the jacket on, put your hat in your shirt. And I was like, what? And they were like, they're like, put your hat in your shirt.

I go, oh, okay. It's like put it under my shirt. And I go, oh, that's interesting. Whatever. So it's a very, very fast coaster. Then it rattles like crazy. It's just shaking the whole time. And I had my phone in my pocket on the left.

And the, the coaster like feels like it's just driving your body. And you can't even like fight against the G forces of it. And my phone is getting drilled as we're on the coaster into the side. of the seat. So I go, is my phone going to crack due to this?

Because I'm so shoved into it. So I take my hand and I go, let me just put my hand in between the phone and the seat just to give it a cushion because my fingers are soft. That should be enough.

I slide it in there. This is the craziest thing. I am now feeling like I am going to lose a finger. The phone and the force of the coaster is forcing my phone and the side of the thing into my hand so much that I am now trying to pull my hand like this out from between the phone and the seat and it's not working. You think you're in 127 hours now.

Yes, right. Yes, right, exactly. I am pulling my hand and it's not working. I can't get it out. I think I'm going to break a finger. I'm going to break the phone. And then finally for whatever, like we maybe made a turn and I was able to finally get my hand out from in between the seat and my phone.

It was crazy. I had like a real like panic on there for a second or for 10 seconds. That is scary. The one time we wrote it, I thought my glasses were going to fly off, which has never happened on a wooden coaster. Yeah, but the rattling is such that you could see that happening pretty easily. So anyway. If you have an item or a limb you want to lose that you want to just naturally shed.

That's when, yeah, yeah, save a copay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just got a bum finger that you don't want to have taken off by a doctor. Yeah. So the thing at knots is not that you're going to get stapled and that you're going to lose your penis. It's that you cannot put your hand in between the seat and your legs. How was the Ghost Rider ride for you, though? Great. I mean, I still got 10 fingers and my phone's fine. You do forget, I've been on that ride a lot and you still forget how fast it is every time. Yeah, yeah.

Because you're like, oh, it's a wooden coaster, how fast can it go? Pretty friggin' fast. And it really is just the feeling of this is out of control. Yeah. That's really the feeling I get. Those wooden's really, it just becomes gravity. Yeah. If there was any part of the track not fully functioning, you might just fly into a wall.

Why, you think, it feels like you're on ghost riders demonic motorcycle itself. Oh, it's that ghost rider. Oh, yeah. Well, it's a branded. It's IP. Okay. That's right. Yeah.

The cage, the Nicholas Cage goes right here. Oh, specifically the Nicholas Cage goes right. Oh, okay. It's been some excellent. Jason windups. Big old wine, and he's still winding. He's winding. And here it is.

And the throw. Guess his lamp. What movie will it be? You know, I don't know. No, I'll say. I enjoy the windup. At Not Scary Farm last year, I went to get a Boysenberry beer. And the girl behind the counter, she's probably like 17 years old.

She took my license. and she like kind of frowns a little bit and she's looking at me and she goes I don't think we can take foreign IDs and I assume she misspoke and meant out of state IDs which in and in of itself it's crazy

it's a theme park everyone here is from out of state and she like goes over to her boss and she's like showing my ID and pointing to me and pointing back and forth and then finally her boss goes New York is in America

and she goes what and then he's like I can't tell if you're joking right now and she came over and she had me, I got my beer and handing me my license back and she was like, sorry, I didn't know. Wow, that's very strange. Look, I don't expect people to have the full grasp of geography, especially in their

younger capitals, but, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. New York is, it's one of the most popular states. One of the United is the best one. I mean, the mayor just said it's the Albania of America, the other debt, like, he said the, he said the line part. Her conservative father encouraged her to make sure he did she never learned about that. That's possible. That's insane.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Anyway. Oh. I turned the volume all the way down and it didn't work. It really wants that to get through. Okay.

Okay. Oh, it's cutting it out. All right. Yeah. So anyway, the new mazes. like the new mazes better this time going through at knots but knots is great always my yeah it is my favorite it's a great time it was everything was uh it was a few things i learned for myself i was fortified by universal by horror nights going successfully um but it did because everything is so

like ambiently stressful and there are a lot of things like you describe the old folks home uh help me i i feel like there a lot like i'm stressed out by like just like confused lost women deep in peril. I feel like that was a facet of a lot of the, like, I don't, I don't know, why am I here? I don't, I don't know, I don't know. Like, that kind of thing really stresses me out. And I kept finding, like, my, my shoulder tension was just crazy. I forget if I said that for Universal, but shoulder tension was way, I was like, it was, it was,

like, it was, like, I felt like I'd, like, help somebody move, move a couch or something. Well, you go, you go, you go to feel guilty, not scared. You're like, why is no one helping these women? I'm so sorry to be walking right past you. As, as a Catholic child, that's what I, I, I, I chase guilt. I desire it in some freakish way. That is something I feel like is more prevalent at knots.

It's just people going, help me, help me, please. And that is, that is scarier than Art the Clown. Yeah. People asking you to help. Yeah, I was more upset by the themes of knots, I would say. Like, and just the general, like, seeding is seven. So that's why I needed one more, I needed another IPA bump. So one was fine for Universal, but if you're like me,

two is going to get you through knots, but you're going to have a great time. You're not going to remember anything specific about any of the mazes. It's all just going to blur together as one giant maze. But the good time was had. The feeling remains.

The specifics may be not. You're just scared. A bunch of stuff happened. A bunch of confused women. Who I was unable to help in any way. Right. At Monstros at Halloween Heart Nights, we saw a scare actor

being eaten by a La Jona, the puppet, the big puppet. Spoilerona, Jason. Spoiler, he's going tonight. I mean, I've been to it, but that's not a new one, right? It, I think they changed. Or Monstrous is a theme, but they change it every year? It's like three monsters, urban legends this year.

That Latin America one's really good. That's the one. Yeah, okay. You did it in Florida. No, it's original here, but they've had it for a few years, and they plus it up every year. Yeah, so anyway, thank you not. As always, knocked it out of the park.

But let's talk about the main event. Yeah. You brought this to us. And I don't know that anyone here knew about it really before. No. We're going to talk spooky world. Spooky world. Spooky world.

In Berlin, Massachusetts, also a place that I was not familiar with. I'm from Massachusetts and also wasn't. Okay, okay, sure. Well, because this is like pure countryside. It's like, yeah, it's west of Boston. Okay, yeah, yeah. I'm from south of Boston.

What, it's like 45 minutes an hour outside of Boston, something like that? And I'm already driving like 40 minutes to get to Boston. Uh-huh. So it was like a little, I only went once when I was like maybe 11 or 12. Okay, okay. So this was, so specifics here, it was open in this iteration from 91 to 98. And it's a, the main cell, I mean, you know, you, you sold us on it via like, some charmingly janky local commercials

I feel like we're passed along to us. Even though I have only been once like the theme jingle looms large for me. Okay. It's America's horror theme park. Spooky world. Okay. And this is a thing that's, you know,

it's less spooky world than more spooky world. Yes, sorry. No, no, no. No, you did it right. You're saying I'm a cowl over here. No, no, no. No, I wasn't correcting you. I was correcting my Myself, we all should have said spooky world. No, no, no, no.

You missed that again. He's giving you a line rating. I love the way it did it. I thought it was perfect. The pitch was right on. Enthusiasm. He was underlining what you were doing. Not correct.

All right, fine. Look, I'll correct you on the pier. Here, it's going to be spook. Here, it's going to be spook. Here, let's, let me, I have a couple of these ads. I forget if one of them has the song, but America's horror theme park was a tagline of it, which is like I guess in a time before a lot of these other places committed to Halloween more maybe was a thing it really could brag about it.

I think 91 was the first year that Universal did. It maybe wasn't called Horror Nights, but they had like at least a three-night event or something. Yeah, it was a lot smaller in Florida. Nowhere had doubled down. And it seems like people give this place credit for like being a month long. Yeah, spooky world claims to be like America's horror theme park, not like the first in Massachusetts or New England or.

Yeah. Sure, sure. All of America. Yeah, all of America. Yeah, all of America. has. exactly what I did. It's very accurate, yeah.

Let's play the tape back. Well, let's analyze this. We'll find out. We have that technology. But you can, you know, you get a sense of the flavor there and that they have a horror museum, but also that you can meet horror stars. You meet Linda Blair. Linda Blair is going to be there.

Yeah, that's very exciting. I mean, eventually, you know, if there's, oh, you should also say there's a documentary that just literally came out this week. That's right. About it so you can learn more about, I mean, we'll talk about some of what's in That is brand new this week. Brand new this week is a very interesting. Because you, yeah, this was a couple of weeks ago we decided to do this.

There's one shocking reveal. I know a couple of you watch a documentary. There's one shocking reveal in a documentary that I was like, I either missed this entirely or blocked it out of my brain, but I can't believe they did this. Wow. Wow. I'm curious which one that is. Spooktacular is the documentary?

Yes. Am I around that the cover of it is Vincent Price, which who is not because they use a lot of Vincent Price footage in the documentary? Vincent Price's footage sort of being a stand-in for the journey of the guy who created the park. Right, yes. He kind of, they like use his footage to tell the tale of the guy, and he feels like kind of a guy.

He does feel like kind of a guy. Yeah, yeah, I think we've got a guy on our hands. Well, let's hear, let's hear it from the personal angle. Tell us about your spooky world visit, since you got to grace this odd mythic place. Well, it opened in 91, so I was, like, very young, and I would just see the local commercials all the time and was, like, fascinated by it, but never went in.

And also, like, Berlin Mass was very far away. But the one time I got to go was because, if you remember in the early 90s, this was also the heyday of Wendy the Snapple Lady. Of course. Wow. And I was like, you're right. Has Wendy the Snappel Lady somehow never come up

in eight years of this show? That seems like she was. That's a great question. Wow. Entirely your house. We bring in the first Wendy the Snappel lady to us. Wow. So during that time, I was seeing Snapple commercials and Spooky World commercials.

And I saw, like, if you write Wendy the Snappleady a letter, she'll, like, put you in a commercial and give you a car or something. So I wrote her, I wrote Wendy the Snapple Lady a letter. And she replied with, I'm going to be at Spooky World on this night. Here are two free tickets. Whoa. This is so strange. Wow. That's weird.

And in my mind, like, this is better than, like, getting a car. because the two, I desperately wanted to go to Spooky World. Left out with the documentary, the Wendy the Snappel lady appearing. Yeah, I know, I was watching the documentary, hoping that there was a clip when they were like starting to show the local celebrities, or no, national celebrities that had been to Spooky World. There was no footage of Wendy the Snapple lady, but I can tell you she was there because I met her and I got my picture with her. And I don't, like, Snapple was not like a sponsor of Spooky, I don't get what she was doing there, but. Right. And she's not a particularly scary

No, no, she's not like Kane Hodder or anything. Yeah, yeah, everyone else who appeared at this were like horror stars And then weirdly went and then I went for free and my mom took me and I was so thrilled to be going Met Wendy the Snappellate and also Kane Hodder who played Jason. Did you have an interaction with her where you went like thank you for the tickets? Of course, yeah. Okay, so you did, yeah. Wow, did she remember?

Did she like send thousands of tickets out? They were having, like, a little party there, and I think she had, like, sent a lot of people in the area tickets. It wasn't like her and I were going to Spooky World together. Okay, got it, got it. I did not go on a ride with her, but there was, like, a sectioned off area with, like, cake and an apple cider, and you could meet Wendy, and she was having a little party, and I got a picture, and of course, that thank you for the tickets. Wow. Wow. Did this, I ask this because I know, I know that for me, I know how much this would have loomed over my life if I had done something like that.

Did you talk about this exclusively for months after the fact? Yes. Is this your entire personality? Like, sorry guys, can't hang out tonight. I'm going to with spooky world with Wendy, the snapp a lady. And everyone's like, we didn't ask you to hang out. You're just offering up this information. You've used this excuse before.

Hey, I'll have to touch base another day. I'll circle back. But I'll tell Wendy you said hey. Yeah, I'll tell Wendy you said hey. Your best friend, Wendy. Can you let me know if we have homework because I'm, missing school that day because of the drive to middle of nowhere

Massachusetts. And I'm going to be so hung over from Kiwi strawberry in the morning that I'm not going to be able to open a book. It's so much lemon flavor on my breath. Do you remember was she dressed in any sort of Halloween outfit? I don't think so. I mean, there is a photo that I

wish I dug up before recording this. Maybe I can. I think she was just in a very sensible sweatshirt and turtleneck combo, which was very popular at the time. I probably was in one as well. Sure. You got to impress it. I just imagine

like Wendy dressed as like a mummy or something. No, it was nothing like that. Oh, that's too bad. But maybe, yeah. You got to keep that face for you though or else you don't recognize. Well, you could do a couple of the strategic...

Selectively, yeah. Skin viewing and between the bandages. Hey, that's great for the themed experience to have a, you know, a relationship with a beverage company that at the time mostly came in glass bottles. That's right. At some point I remember

Snapple cans Yeah but it certainly wasn't like On tap with the Coke machine or anything Yeah But the glass Gatorade was in glass And everything was better You know?

Is that still exclusively In glass back then? I don't know if it was exclusively But you could get a glass bottle of Gatorade And then they also had a glass era of Gatorade They had that one flavor That's gone now

And I can't think of what it was But it was like really good It was like a richer yellow It was the basis for all the Your taste in alcoholic beverage That's right Yeah, that's what you're chasing. I mean, that is one thing we neglected to talk about when we were talking about knots and how in Horonites is I always love one disgusting, like, unnaturally colored beverage.

That makes me feel awful for 90 minutes, and I don't, like, I know it's going to happen, but I don't think it. It's just worth it to me. There's usually, like, a gummy worm in it or something. Oh, sure, yeah. Well, and if the lines are too long, I had mentioned this on a previous episode, like, every other, like, cooler gift shop have canned cutwater cocktails. Oh, that's a great hack. You're really into the cut. You're excited about this.

I just kept, I keep seeing, on TikTok, it's a trend where people talk about the crazy shit that happened to them when they drank cut water. Because one can is like drinking two cocktails. But if you're thinking, if you're not thinking, you're just keep drinking cans, like. How, when was the last time you saw a TikTok about cut water? Was it like last night? I don't know. Not last night, maybe a few days ago.

I'm just for interesting because I've just not seen anything about this. So I'm just wondering, is it something? you're seeing every day? No, I, no, I searched it. I searched it, so now I see new ones. Oh, I see. Because, yeah, I'm just, I'm interested in this. Would you know an example of something crazy

somebody did on Cutwater? Well, someone said they fell asleep, but it was not in their yard. It was a neighbor's yard. Someone's like, I woke up in bed in a bathing suit that wasn't mine. What? Is this part of like a cut water challenge,

or you just watch it and you're like, oh, wow, that was. also cut water just like the last guy. I don't think it's a challenge they want because like a bunch of teens were just hanging out in the parking lot and the one of them was just trying to drink

a four pack of cut water and after the first can he was fine and by the fourth can he was like falling a lot. You gotta start hanging out at some liquor stores and buying some teens some cut water. You'll create so you can create the mischief yourself. Cause the next set of tickets.

Can I get your TikTok hand? and I will buy it. Just make it a good one. Tell me a good story in a couple of weeks. This shift date is coming, Scott. The 30th. Cheatsen on Halloween just passing out Cutwater's tips. A Johnny Apple seed, Johnny Cutwater seed.

Johnny Cutwater. Hey, we got little kickats for the kids. We got cans of the espresso martini and lemon drop. Also for the kids. What is this a can? Well, it probably has the same contents that a soda can would have. wink wink but just drink it all at once wink wink wink see what happens

film up for TikTok wink wink wink wink I tried to steal a cop's gun I was just being goofy I was just trying to be fun well Jason and I have to now we have to drink cut water in an episode he's bringing it up so many times

twice I assure you I drank enough cut water during lockdown that I don't know that I ever need to Well you revealed you didn't talk about it You actually did create cut water? You got to be doing the content. We weren't thinking about it. To quote him in a recent episode, when he wore a younger man's clothes.

Four years ago. Four years ago. That was your cut water phase. What did you do? What was the craziest you regard to cut water? Well, I didn't because Jane and I would normally split one. Or we would each have her own can and then go. The wives are back, Mike.

Oh, yeah. Oh, the wives. Bringing us down. ruining our cutwater fund. So you were into cut water before it became a trend. Yeah. Are we saying that Jason is a bit of a taste maker? Wow.

This is an interesting reveal. So you just searched Cutwater because you were an enthusiast. No, I just got fed an account that was tracking a lot. That was like reposting a lot of people's stories. And then I started looking to see if there was more than just this person. You've been searching for cut water for four or five years on the internet. No, for just a few months. You're confusing.

But to comment, like, I was doing this in 2020. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You were in the cut water back then. One time, me and my then-girlfriend each drank our own can, and we went, I feel awful. Wow, cool. Tails, are you in Gen Z? Because there's like, I don't know why it feels bad drinking green alcohol at like two or three days. worth of sugar an hour.

Oh, well, I got to try a cut water. I'm surprised by this. Well, it's coming off flavors of cocktail. They are like buzz balls. They're not that different than buzz balls. Okay, but it just seems like they're otherworldly the way you describe them, like, just making people, like, go insane after they have one can. It does seem like that's a trend.

I didn't make this up. I'm not saying you're making love. I'm not saying you're making love. I'm just saying this an interesting thing, and I didn't realize that you had a part of, took in the phenomenon I yeah why not like Scott said when I were a younger man which again is four years ago yeah are you

so you're not big on the like themed food or you stick to like one stupid cocktail I mean I like a treat but it's usually going to be either or because those cocktails are also like the same amount of sugar as whatever treat you're getting and like without fail make me feel bad for a little while so I usually get one or the other And the drink usually wins out. How was the knots one?

Did you have one at knots? I did not have a drink at knots. I'm saving it for Horan Knife tonight. You got some good gummy worm opportunities. Some good. Perismet menu. Yeah, yeah. Strange decorations.

I'm going to go to the slash bar. Did anyone go? We didn't do the slash bar. I took a photo with the big stilt slash outside of the bar, but we didn't go up. We saw Chuckie, which is like near the entry. Oh, right when you walk in. Yeah. Yeah, kind of back.

And a very peaceful, beautiful courtyard, kind of. But yeah, there's Chucky. You call that courtyard beautiful, Mike? I thought it was pretty and had some tile work. Yeah, wasn't there? Yeah, it was a lot of like a metal and chainsaws. It's usually peaceful. That's the way you described it is beautiful.

You imagine like some serene sunsets and it's just sort of like a little area with some tiles. It's very nice. I like tile work. It's impressive to me. Chuckie just constantly like 10 hours shaking a cocktail Shaker. That's great. Chuckie animatronic.

Really great. But anyway. Okay, so I didn't realize, yeah, so Snapple brought you there. Yes. But then beyond your interaction with Wendy, the Snapple lady,

which is clearly the highlight, what else did you partake in? Absolutely the hayride. They had some great haunted houses. It's crazy. Like Tom Savini, who was like a legendary special effects horror guy. Yes.

Had his own themed house, which to me when I was like 11 meant nothing. And now I'm like, oh my God, Tom Civini and Massachusetts had its own haunted house. And he was possibly there too, it seemed like. Oh, he absolutely was. Yeah, yeah. Whereas like now he would have like a Halloween Horror Nights house, if anything. Right, right. But it seems like there's, at least how the documentary presents it, it was like a time of sort of, I don't know, maybe you'd say underappreciation or maybe you'd say like the appreciation is growing for these kind of cult horror.

figures like the fact that Freddie and Jason and these characters are not swooped up by major companies for Halloween experiences yet and it's sort of a like pre the giant boom of comic con and other comic cons like I don't know it's it's a product of the 90s where like the fandom is growing but it's not there yet so this is like the molten core of like cult horror fandom is building I think they were like a little bit ahead of the gate with that kind of stuff which is like probably where a lot of these horror icons learned like because they had to chase down these people to come like Linda Blair or Robert England or something. And I think that's where they realized like, oh, I can charge 40 bucks for an autograph. Like that's awesome. I can make a ton

of money tonight. Everyone here is a horror fan. And now like that's where a lot of people make like the lion's share of their income is going to these. A lot of actors. Yes. No, yeah, not just like horror. Right, right. And I think Spooky World was like one of the first to exploit that. Interesting. Yeah, yeah. And so it grew out of, it was a pre-existing hayride, but just the hayride. And this guy, David Bertolini, Blino, I'm confusing it with Savini.

David Bertolino, yeah. Went on it, thought, like, these guys are supposed to be scaring you or, like, many feet away and just smoking a cigarette. These scares suck. Yeah. Like, what could I take this over and do something cooler and scarier with it?

So I think it grew out. It was like a kind of an elevated hayride at first. and then the next year maybe inspired by Savini it became a world it became like a full let's have all their stuff was it a hayride there i got the impression he was like had this idea so like went to a hayride in like new jersey or something oh is that what it was and oh it wasn't him it wasn't him taking over of an existing hayride it was him on like a research trip and was like you know it would make this hayride great oh okay okay oh i got confused i thought he bought that one no it was okay so it was him starting because i know like they were like

looking around for land for a long time oh and then found like oh this place because it's a small town in western Massachusetts they're doing like it's perfect for a hayride oh but yeah no no no and you're right and because you had to like like they had to like clear the land yeah and like refurbished the house the barn that it was in yeah yeah yeah which is still there

they moved out of here in 98 but they're going to have the documentary of shots of this barn where all this crazy stuff happened and now is just a barn again just restored and a small museum I think they restored the barn before that's in the documentary where like the locals were like I don't know what this guy's

thinking he's doing but like he's helping restore this barn so okay yeah i think they're just happy like he's pumping money and right and like making this gross barn look nice right this seems like kind of a weird equivalent of woodstock where it's like very rural folks and then like what's going on some guys got a crazy plan and then all of a sudden hundreds and hundreds of people show up and they don't know how to feel about it like yeah i guess it's good for us in some way but also it's a bunch of ruckus and they're kind of like eyeing this attraction and not and also quick realizing like oh like we're a small town we don't have the infrastructure for this kind of a thing yeah like a lot of the footage you'll see in the documentary is like local news reports on the traffic

trying to get to berlin mass because like people usually are just passing through if anything wow yeah it's just it's single lane or like you know one lane road exactly and then and like somebody who works there is describing having to just drive in the other lane just to get be able to get to work on time and then veer off the road which is like probably asking for trouble Yeah, yeah. To travel on the wrong side of the road. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. For a long time, yes. Yeah. Um, the Woodstock comparison makes me go, uh,

Ang Lee made that taking Woodstock comedy. He should make a spooky world movie. That's exactly right. Yeah. Taking spooky. What are you doing, Ang Lee? Taking spooky world. Taking spooky world. It is interesting because like there's doing things are like in a, I was saying like in a vacuum like when you don't realize how big your audience is, but the audience for just like people that want to experience scary stuff or love movies, like they had no clue what the demand was for that.

Right. And just shocking. I mean, a lot of people have, a lot of like different things have stories like we didn't realize 10,000 people were going to show up. We thought 500 people might show up or less. But then they had paid off the initial loan for the place within two weeks, I think. Yeah. Like a $150,000 loan or something.

Right. Within like two weeks or something. Oh, my God. Like crazy. And the lines were huge from the get-go. And, yeah, they really worked at this local news angle. It gave everybody everything they want it. Like, you know, weather guy has time to kill so he can come do his report in front of a bloody head or whatever.

And then that serves as free advertising for the place. So the more of these things that happen and they run in these janky ads and then crowds are huge. And a part of the documentary I liked a lot was when just they were realizing that like the crowd tonight is so big that not everybody. going to get in. Here's a plan. What if we go ask some of the people in the line if they want to be this character. Yes, right.

Let's just, let's bring them in. Here's how, do you want to instead work here tonight? Do you think there's like two like bikers or three bikers who are like furious that they're not going to get in and they're like like, like, hey, why don't you just work here? Yeah.

These guys with really, that are handling this very poorly about not getting in. What if we like made the, what if we put them in charge instead? Hey, guys, you're scaring the shit out of me. Why don't you just scare the shit out of everybody else to pay you? little bit. I mean, honestly.

Can I pay you $8 to scare the shit out of others? Yeah, go follow that path a little and then just go stand behind a tree and jump out. And you'll be the heart of the action. And in the documentary, they show like these key people with no training that were hired on the spot. Like one of them like got run over by the hayride and got his leg broke. Yes, yes. And they were like, if it was a couple inches further, it would have been his head.

And then there was like one talking head that was like, and everyone was having sex in the woods. Everyone the work there was having sex in the woods Yeah, everyone was like 20 And like This same kind of weird The documentary is really good About sort of just giving you a lot of the information And then it'll touch on a couple

Very strange things But get away from them quickly And I was like I bet there's a different documentary That would expose just how strange This place was for seven Is not executive producer of And being like

Okay mention it but then move on Yes Yes, we might have run over one of our employees. Right. It is a fact. We will say it, but we won't. Yeah, keep moving. Next scene.

Next scene. There's maybe more of like an action park angle on this place that this documentary was not interested. Get back to Linda Blair. She was there. Right. Let's tell the story of how we got Robert England's two of it. So I went to Musso and Franks with England's agents and you're a little like, I believe

this. There's nothing about this story. I don't believe. Sure. Oh, that's a famous place. There's another part like that where somebody, and it's somebody who's really enthusiastic about the place and the nostalgia is strong. So, you know, you're like in hearing him weave the tail. But he's like, you know, and the people who would come to this thing.

Like, you know, I get to meet people. I never would have dreamed of seeing in real life. And then it cuts to Bobby Boris Pickett's an instrument. Like, you couldn't believe you were seeing Bobby Boris. And that man was Butch, Patrick. Whoa. We are the only people that, like, they mentioned Butch Patrick early in the documentary. I'm like, I hope we get to see Butch Patrick.

And then five or six minutes later, they're like, and here's Butch Patrick signing, and here's a clip from the Munsters. I was like, yeah. Lots of Butch Patrick. You were worried. You were worried. Carlson's like, he met Butch Patrick? Yeah.

I was like, holy fuck. Fucking kidding me? Bush Patrick. Yeah. No, I went, look, I was like, I hope he comes back in the documentary. I hope there's a lot of returns to Butch Eddie Munster, of course, from the... Because they had a talking head of him, too.

Yes, he was interviewed with him. I mean, there's a couple of podcasts the ride regulars as far as discussion topics in this... Yes, which we saw in the trailer. Like, okay, we're going to have to check this thing out. Right. Very quickly, you see Late Shift Jay Leno himself, Daniel Roebuck, who was a massive enthusiast for this place. Did a local

news report there when he wore a younger man's clothes. So he's one of the first faces you see in the trailer. We're like, oh, wow, we got late shift guy. But then there's a whole big story that's the centerpiece of the documentary

that definitely touches on some of our faves. One of those being real Jay Leno. I mean, I would rank it fake Jay Leno first, real Jay Leno's second, to be honest. But yeah, as

this place sort of builds notoriety by, like, not only do you get to go to mazes and haunted hayride and stuff, but you'll see some of your horror favorites or just some of your oddball favorites. And that's where you land on a lot of participation of Tiny Tim. I really did

not know much about Tiny Tim I found out. I continue to not know much about Tiny Tim. That's still, that's an inexplicable We've talked about Tiny Tim on the show here and there and how it's like a impossible to parse 60s relic. What is, I mean, like kind of just was an odd figure on talk shows, sort of novelty songs, ukulele player. So with all that, all that makes you a blockbuster star as far as spooky world goes. Yes.

So like tight relationship. It seems like Tiny Tim was there all the time. Right. But not, I don't think of him as a horror figure. No. There's something like kind of unnerving about him. Sure, but that might not. But I don't think he's like intentionally a horror icon.

No, no. It's just that his hair is like a Tim Burton character. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just that he resembles Danny DeVito Penguin, just how he actually dresses and lives. There was one or two shots on grainy old footage where I was like, he looks like Neil Hamburger right. He looks like Neil Hamburger or Greg Tarkington and on cinema Like when he's looking at a when he's doing something weird Sure, sure

So interesting character who I don't fully understand But this seemed to be their ticket to the top This point we can boast Tiny Tim And something that Tiny Tim was famous for Maybe Most Famous for was like one of the most like Famous things that Johnny Carson Tonight show ever did Which was the Tiny Tim is getting married on the show to Miss Vicky.

Somebody I know even less about. What is Miss Vicky? I don't know. And why is she Miss Vicky? And this is where it gets weird because then the documentary without really like stepping you through it holding your hand is like,

so at this point Tiny Tim is with Miss Jan. But really he's in love with Miss Sue. So he's kind of at a crossroad. And I, and this again, it just keeps going. And I'm like, okay, hang on. I've just learned about two new misses. Yeah. And why is everyone in Tiny Tim's orbit a miss?

Is it him calling them miss? It must be. It would be an insane coincidence if they all were. They all separately accrued, people just liking to call them miss. They're just proper ladies is all. Or they're all like kindergarten teachers? Yeah. That's his type.

Not kindergarten students. Don't be weird. Kindergarten teachers. Teachers, yeah. And they are unrelated to Miss Elizabeth, matrimand Randy Savage's companion. Oh, Mottra Man out of Miss? Oh, very nice. Yeah, that's true.

Well, you're lucky to find one miss, let alone three. Right. He's in a love triangle here, but ultimately, so basically... Miss Rachel's like sitting by her phone, waiting for a call. In the future, Ms. Rachel. But so they're trying to, like, you know, they're trying to do the ultimate version of these local news segments to get the word out about spooky world. So they started thinking, well, all right, we got a new Tonight Show. Jay Leno's hosting the Tonight Show now.

Can we do like a big, can we like do a new wedding? It worked out so well time number one. Assuredly here in the 90s, a second Tiny Tim wedding on the Tonight Show. Now done, Leno style. We'll do gangbusters. But he doesn't, but then it was a woman he was already married to who didn't want to do any of this. Well, no, it was Miss. Yeah, it was Miss Jan.

It was Val Renewers with Ms. Jan. Well, yes, she agreed to a vow renewal. A Val renewal. Even though they were no longer together. They were not together. Oh, okay. But he was in love with Miss Sue, and this gave him a lot of guilt. And he would do this television.

The original pitch was he was going to marry Miss Sue. Oh. And then I think she got cold feet about, I don't know about the wedding or like doing this on the Tonight Show. Oh, and yes. And she said, Miss Sue said, I don't want to be the next Miss Vicky, which is a weird thing for Ms. Sue to say. You already literally are the next Miss Vicki.

But Ms. Vicky is no publicity horror. I don't want to, like, we're going to get married. And if we get married, we'll do it in a quiet way. Right. But then Ms. Jan was more open to it. Even though they were not together at all. Okay. I missed this step.

I missed that there was a separation of Miss Jan. Forgive me for being confused by the misses. So now Tiny Tim, for publicity purposes of this horror place, is getting back with Miss Jan on air, on the Tonight Show. Yeah. And then this is, and this all happens via Saturday. satellite to spooky world, but live on the tonight show, but via satellite, so Jay can't be there. So they send a correspondent, Future Club random host, Bill Maher. Bill Maher live at Spooky World.

I said this. This is another like simulation thing where I was like, it's a horror theme park. The thing, you brought us something we'd never heard of before, and then immediately we encounter fake Jay Leno, real J. Leno, Bill Maher, Jay Leno, pretty famous. But Daniel Roebuck's all over it again. And I'm not saying he's not successful. He's great. I'm just saying it's bizarre that he's so involved here.

And then you get Butch Patrick, and we haven't even mentioned Bobby Boar's Pickett. We have mentioned Bobby Borer's Pickett. Well, he confused, I, Butch Patrick and Bobby Borris Pickett. Too many bees bouncing in the time, though, when he realized, like, oh, I could make a lot of money in October coming and playing one song. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that probably began. We know this that he had extremely busy Halloween seasons when he had. As does Butch Patrick today.

Loved it. Let me say about the ceremony, though. So in the documentary, they say bad thing. They're like, Leno wasn't into it. Leno hated it. And then it cuts to him going now to, he's even like, so Tiny Tim got married on the show. You can sense Leno not really knowing what's up with Tiny Tim.

And he goes, okay, so we're going now to, where we going? Spookyville? And then it goes to Bill Maher saying, spooky world, Jay. We're at spooky world. And then he's kind of snarking on it. And then the spooky world people say, Bill Maher was a dick. Omar was being a dick that night.

I'm like, I don't believe that for a second. Yeah, when? Show me one example. Show me but a hundred thousand examples of Bill Maher being a dick. He certainly doesn't seem unpleasant in every inch of film footage you've ever seen of him and anything. And unpleasant in what he says in the way he touches bottles in the things that he eats. I don't believe it. He certainly didn't make.

Woody Allen look really good on a recent episode of Pub Random because of how unpleasant he is just across the board. No way. Skyrocketing the likeability of Woody Allen by simply sitting next to him. So anyways, so this thing was

considered somewhat of a disaster and then it made Tiny Tim feel really bad and then he did not stick with the marriage with Miss Jan and it didn't do the Tonight Show any favors and then he got with Miss Sue instead and then several years later collapsed on stage in the arms of Miss Sue

and he was gone two years later this is all a very strange story and it almost I like it in the documentary as like the dark point like we were to boy we thought we had it made with Bobby Boris Pickett and But then it all fell apart with old tiny Tim So sad but what year was that

Sorry so then it's like 97? He died in 96 The this This event occurred in 90 This event occurred on Halloween 1994 Oh it's early that I know this is a fact that I know very well because Mike, you said it's like a simulation thing.

This episode of the Tonight Show Oh my God, I don't know. This is the episode that I was on when I was nine years old. You've got to be kidding me. This was the episode. You brought us this thing. You went to the spooky world episode of the Tonight Show. I was in it.

I was on it. Yeah, so that is insane. He's in a sketch. He's in a sketch on this episode. I was in this episode, October 31st, Halloween, 1994. The episode of the show. This is my blowing. This is so great. When I put it together, like, because it's in the trailer when it cut to Leno and Mar

next to each other, and then Mar's in a weird place, I'm like, this feels so familiar to me. And then I swear I flashed to, like, I saw this on a monitor when I was leaving the stage because I was in a live sketch on that's a night show in 94. The audience heard this years ago, but I'll re-explained it to anybody who hasn't heard it or to you, Mike. So we were family friends with a guy named Don Sweeney, who was the music supervisor at the tail end of Carson and then at the beginning of Leno and like one of our favorite family

friends and he knew I was really interested in show biz and stuff and he gave us a tour at one point and I had during that I had Jay Leno sign my fresh from Disney World autograph book so he's going look at it says Pluto and then it's me but he was so nice and it lit me I swear it's why I do what I do to like that's the crystallizing of I want to be in show business or work on a talk show show or whatever and then I got the ultimate call hey they need a bunch of trick or treaters for a sketch would he be well i know it's Halloween you probably have plans i'm like break every plan break any plan for the next couple this is my wendy the snappel lady i talked about

nothing but this for a year after the fact but i got so i was a trick or treater in a richard nixon mask which was my choice because i thought i was like maybe jay will appreciate this uh uh adult humor yeah yeah yes he probably thinks i don't know about the laughing appearance it's a proud tradition i'm participating in now But anyways, yeah, so I'm a trick-or-treater in this sketch that was never rehearsed. They just shoved us kids out and just say, you'll hear a doorbell sound, say trick-or-treat, and then they didn't say what else was going to happen.

What else that happened was that a woman came out in a Carmen Miranda costume, and then once she took the fruit hat off, the hair, the iconic hair revealed that she was another big 94 celebrity, Susan Powder. Stop the insanity Famously no hair Yes, yeah, yeah So they covered it Who is this? And then she took it off Big Reveal and I knew

who Susan Powder was And the sketch was Of course you were a nine year old boy Yeah yeah What red blooded nine year old boy Doesn't know who Susan Powder is And she gave us health food bars Instead of candy

And that was the sketch Then we left the stage And immediately the next bit In the act one of the show Was you know Tiny Tim got It is literally what happened it traded hands from 9-year-old boy me

to this thing. How fucking crazy is that. I find this unbelievable. I'm like, there's no coincidence. This is insane. Simulation. No, I know. It is a simulation. Buzz, scuttle, Napa boys.

He's right. Yeah, that no. And I had also, because I brought this up in a previous maybe hauntcast or just another episode of the show, but I had two big weird black holes because I was like, I'm going to be on the tonight show. I have to remember everything about this.

And I remembered and knew that the first guest was Matthew Broderick, and that was huge to me because he's Simba, and this was the year of the Lion King. But I was like, I don't know what that bit was. I know that it cut to some mean-seeming comedian and some spooky place I didn't understand, and that's what this was, and then the musical guest, I was like, I knew it was some rock band,

but I'd never heard of it before. I have since figured out that was Big Star. Wow. It was the only, in his entire career, the only network television appearance of Alex Chilton was that night on this episode. This was a night of TV that brought together Jay Leno, Alex Chilton, Bill Marr, Tiny Tim, and Young Scott Gardner. Did this realization hit you watching the documentary?

I think I think in the trailer because they show a clip of it in the trailer and I swear to God the grid and seeing the Tonight Show logo with like skulls and pumpkins around it. I'm like, oh my God, that's that thing. That's what happened. I never realized it was Bill Mar. Yeah. Yeah. Same broadcast. I was like, it's been everything I could do to not text about this.

It's just thrilling. Yeah. That is unbelievable. I was happy to see Bobby Boar's pick. That's still what you're pulling from this. Jason also had chills, but for a different reason. Butch Patrick himself. I forgot he was still with us.

When you brought up that I hope. When you brought up that snapple flavor, he had chills too. Yeah, I started worrying about the safety of glass bottles at a dark haunt. Yeah, no, wait a minute. Now, Scott, now question for you. I hope that there weren't a lot of snapple bottles of the tonight show. I got to cut up some guest feet before they got to go out of the air. If we went past that really quickly, were you upset that there used to be more glass bottles?

No, I wasn't upset. I love a glass bottle. Oh, okay. But I... You seem like you were mad at it. No, I think... No, I'm just very... I'm very...

I'm very conscious now with theme parks or arenas, like having the, like, either plastic bottles, or a lot of them have gone to the can. It's like the big tin cans. Are you saying because you're worried people are going to throw them at things? Is that what you're saying? No, I'm saying I understood why they did that and why you can't bring glass in because they chatters and then there's jagged glass. It's in the podcast to ride live show writer that no glass bottles, no glass of any kind. He's worried they're going to throw it at us.

Well, I'm worried about microplastics, so that's why I'm against single-use plastic. We all have our beverage-related concerns. Right. Anyways, I mean, look, I don't mean to, you know, you work in late night television. I don't mean to set the bar so high, but clearly this was, you know, this might have been the high water mark. Yeah, yeah. I hate to say it, but I don't know if your show will ever reach the high heights of the spooky world episode. I also didn't even remember that Bill Maher was a, was he a correspondent for Leno?

There was a lot of random, I feel like correspondence that. Or was that a one-off? I was like, why is he here? I don't know. Yeah, they seemed confused by that in that spooky one. world. Yeah, I don't know. The Leno Tonight Show, too, especially in the 90s, I misremember what it was like even. Sometimes, because I feel like I only remember the last 10 years of Jay, which was a lot like safer. He was a little like horny and like meaner and the show itself was rowdier in the 90s.

And you don't imagine Jay like that. You think of more kindly old like mechanic Jay. But he was different in the 90s. Well, the 90s were a time for shaming all of the women who were clearly the victims of the big stories they were part of. Anytime a new documentary comes out about how unfair we treated a woman in the 90s, Jay's like, fuck, I know I'm going to show up in this document. Like, they're going to show my monologue. Like, no, all right, bad news.

I don't look so good. Good news. Residuals. I got to, I got to touch. Why, yes, I give you permission. Anyways, that's what I got to say about that. How well is that? So, yeah, so is that all to say? I guess I was aware of spooky world.

Wow, yeah. Seriously. I had no. Didn't even know I was at the time Specific things though To do so like Was there this horror museum when you were there Do you recall?

There was a horror museum That's where the Snapple Party was located Really? Yes I like that degree of really Well wait am I wrong The Horror Museum was the 18 and older? No not oh that's what you're talking about

That's something different Okay okay That's why I said really Because that's where the thing happened That I think you were talking about earlier The barn was like the centralized location Where the Snapple party wasn't also like any actor that was there

would set up shop to sign autographs and I guess I thought that's what you were talking about. I still just like that regardless of confusion I like that as like a tease for like

tonight on podcast The Ride. So the horror museum is what hosted the Snapple event. Really? Real! I'm doing it two-parter. I can say why I reacted that way. Yes, yeah, yeah.

Because so they're talking about how they acquired all these different like wax figures of like famous murderers and stuff. And that's what the horror museum ended up being, where it was in 18 and older. You had to pay a separate fee to get into a different building. And at a certain point, I think during the Charles Manson portion of the, of whatever, the tour, a topless woman would jump out of a casket. And people were like, what?

Wendy! So, yes, when you said Wendy was in there, I was like, that doesn't make any sense. But maybe it does make sense. So much more stayed in your commercial. I know that part was bawdy, but it felt like there was in the documentary, and they allude to that people are also, like, very upset by this Charles Manson-Wax figure, and it's the shittiest little good thing you've ever seen. Yes, I mean, because everything else, mostly up to that point, had been, like, you know, fantastical

or fictional characters, and this was like, you know, the real life. Real murders, real victims. Right, yeah, exactly. And then there was just naked woman. and that it does. They, they breeze by this so quickly and it was just basically like,

what are you doing? Why did you have a topless woman there? But like, that's an interesting story why this guy decided to also throw nudity and what he was describing as a family friendly place.

I don't know. I feel like there was another 10 minutes to interview people like about exactly what was going on there. Well, that's what I was alluding to when I said it. There was one very shocking moment was finding out this was not the 18 plus area

but one of the haunted houses just had the attacking chainsaw Lewinsky's, which was big, beefy, 250-pound men dressed as Monica Lewinsky with chainsaws chasing you around. Oh, man. This comes at the,

toward the end of the documentary, too, when it's like he also was just trying a bunch of different stuff to keep business. Yes. And I just, I tried pushing the envelope to get people to come. Right. But that's barely touched on it.

I bet there's a bunch of other weird shit they don't bring up. It just all, because you don't get that sense necessarily early on that the guy who did this is like, it's a little, like, sleaziness to this. But there's a little bit at the end of like, yeah, he did this and he did this.

Never mind. Let's keep moving. It's a little out of character for Lewinsky. If you wanted to defame Lewinsky, why are we putting chainsaws in the mix? It doesn't. Lorena Bobbitt, maybe. I also have a theory that this was maybe a sort of rip-off of the dancing Edos. Oh, interesting.

Because all of a sudden it's like the chainsaw Lewinsky's, multiple Lewinsky's, and of course the Jay Leno bit, the dancing Edos. Also, Jay would have loved the chainsaw Lewinsky's. Yes, he would have. He was like, well, now we need a new bit for tomorrow. It feels like a similar bit to that. That would have been top of show for three months straight. So now again.

So apparently this was the $10, I think it was like $10 was the upcharge to go to the horror museum. That was popular. And I guess I don't know what the dads in the neighborhood. I guess it was popular. But you had to be 80 to show an ID at the door. So that's the narrative that they weave is that this place is, like, Like thriving, successful, but then, you know, they lose Tiny Tim. Right.

What do we do? How do we keep innovating and keep existing in a post-Tiny Tim world? Well, and then he discovers this museum of real horrors in Los Angeles that goes out of business. That's where they got the figures. So now we have a like, all right, it makes sense. It's a house of wax, but then it's all about actual murders, which bums everybody out. And then the town has been kind of looking for a reason to get rid of this thing. so then when it hears of our

you've got Charles Manson and Topless Women we don't like this oh actually hey we discovered something about the code of this barn you actually can't have people in the barn It needs a sprinkler system Yeah yeah The thing they never

They were up and running And nobody ever brought up The sprinkler problem before Yeah I do Let's not skip over the fact that he saw The owner The owner saw This

Church of Satan an affiliated gift shop on Hollywood Boulevard that it turned out was run by Anton LeVay's daughter, the high priest of the Church of Satan. The way the story goes is he's coming out of his Muso and Frank's meeting and across the street sees this. Yeah, it was a real meat cute. And it, yeah, and he was obsessed with the Bella Lagosie wax figure.

It was almost like I wanted to take Bella away from all this. Yes, he was talking about just wanting that one And then they talked them into taking all of it All of the figures They said, we're going on a business We'll sell you this, but you have to buy all of them Which included like real murderers and real victims Yes, right. And then he yes, he made use of those

I'd also just be interested in And there's not really like any Interviews with the people that like in the city Where they were like we had to get this done You know how many like murders they covered up Like there might be something else I'm not saying they covered up murders Just saying I would be interested to know

what their point of view was about this place and what was actually going on. The chainsaw Lewinsky's actually did saw many, many limbs. Right. Claim more limbs than Ghost Rider and knots. Well, it seems like there was a real push and pull because they're like, well, the townsfolk didn't like this, so they did the sprinkler thing,

but also half the town was employed by this. Right, yeah, yeah, that's what it seemed like, yeah. Do you recall, like, a vibe since you were there? Do you recall it seeming like wild, disorganized, like, bound for coming unraveled at some point? I mean, it definitely felt like regional, seasonal theme park, even when I was a kid. Like, janky in a way that I actually liked that aesthetic. Yeah, but I also was shielded from the actual murder victims.

I didn't see a topless woman when I was there. I, like, went through the hay ride and saw Jason and... Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't get the full spooky. Good hayride? Solid hayride? Great hayride. Also, I think because it's early days, like, didn't have to worry about...

licensing fees or anything like in this universe like jason and pinhead and freddie all hang out together oh good all everybody's there that everybody's there that was my sense of like they're advertising that like pinhead is here but i bet they're not paying the rights for pinhead no i don't think they are yeah and at that point i mean now i'm sure they would be sued so they what they mean is a pinhead mask is here right yes right but today that would require like a pinhead licensing we're doing the pinhead house at halving hornage or something yeah yeah it's difficult to track down because pinhead's lawyer lives in a realm beyond pleasure and pain

it's hard to get to the cenobite cinnabite yeah the cenobites yeah there's our rumors a hellraiser house next year at horonites I would love a hellraiser house that sounds like an 18 plus one it would have to be yes the hellraiser movies are very

sexual very sexual very that's mostly what it's about confusingly sexual because there's also a lot of chains with hooks so there's a lot of peeling skin skin and blood and yeah you just watched hellraiser for the first time hellraiser and hellbound hellraiser too they're both pretty great right which made you hornier uh well the first one is very horny because uh the woman is constantly cheating on our husband with his brother the right answer is number one i think pinhead's barely in the first one yeah he was just kind of like an erkle like

breakaway character where they were like we now need to make these movies about him but the second one they start making out fleshing out the world and there's a labyrinth

and the horny one there's a little kissing in the second one so be careful one of the craziest ending plot like justifications of like oh that character is wearing a

skin suit that's how they were able to help the other person oh they ran back to that hallway put the skin suit on perfectly look like the person and then help them up. Yeah, it's like a Mission Impossible mask.

Yeah, same deal, really. Kind of. Yeah. There's faceoff maze. Faceoff maze. Oh, at Fanfest Knights. That's what, they should do face off at Fanfest Knights. There's not enough exploiting of that property. I know. It's supposedly a sequel. Oh, we'll see if that happens. When Alluredian

Powell swap faces, that's going to be a blast. Oh, yeah. No, I don't want new actors. You want Travolta. You want Caj and Travolta. Yeah, that's what they're talking about. Oh, you're an older Caj and Jewel. It's Adam, what, Winger?

Is that the guy who did Kong versus Godzilla? He was going to do a sequel to FaceWop with the, with Cage and Travolta. Wow. That's all, it doesn't have to be good. I just want to see it. Well, good news, it won't be. It was. Fine, great.

I will be there. Oh, and John Wu is not back. So, so anyway, yeah. So, do you recall anyone else who was. there your year? Was Kane Hodder? I met Kane Hodder. I did know Jason. Wow. Yeah. I was very excited to meet him and get his autograph. Do you remember?

Like, was Butch Patrick there? I don't think I saw Butch Patrick. Would you have cared? I would have cared. Yes, yes. I probably wouldn't love like, by face recognized who that was. But the picture behind him were if my mom said like, that's Eddie Munstrad. I've been like, oh my God. Yeah. And he's in Massachusetts.

Like, unbelievable. He's not what, he's he seemed so busy. How did he make time for this? We should every, if we could figure out his Halloween schedule every year, that should be a recurring hot cast segment, is that we like, where is Butch? Let's go over, yes, where's Butch this? And every week to do an update. So this week in Butch, we just plug his Halloween happenings just to be nice.

He probably makes like $10 million in October. Yeah, yeah, this is where like, yeah, I don't, I feel like I can't even do any like, yeah, what's this guy? He's probably pretty of, I bet I'm sure he just, he's like the most industrious. I mean, if Arch's son is making money in October for not ever once. being lurch, then I hope Butch Patrick is making money. Yeah, yeah. And Halloween is getting longer, longer like the Christmas season. I mean, the

parks in Florida and at the year, like, Hornight starts in like August. Oh, I think when I was there, it was August 27th of this year. Yes, oh my God. And then, and the Disney, the non-scarry, the Mickey's not scary parties start in August, too. If we're just voluntarily plugging Butch Patrick's doings.

I'd like to plug the YouTube channel he apparently has, which is called Coach to Coast. Coach? Like with a K. I don't get it. Muncher coach. Yeah, yeah. It's like a Munster's coach.

Yeah. So he's just sort of recapping where he's been. Probably on the channel. I don't know. I don't want to judge what we have to start watching coach to coast to figure it out. Travels, yeah, it's probably so much. I don't know. There was a recent Hollywood show.

There's a couple times of year they have a Hollywood autograph show at the Burbank, Marriott. was at one of them. Barbara Eden was at the last one. I know that. That was a big deal. But, like, you can see the line up there. But I'm assuming he's on a lot of those shows.

That was a big deal. That was a big deal. I didn't go to that one. I was a big deal. I didn't go to that one. Still, it's pretty good now. Yeah.

Clubbreden was a club random guest. Barbara Eden was on Club Randall. Yes, so he was. Oh, no. Another simulation of mine. Like, created it somehow. Youngblood on Club Random and Barbara Eden. I wasn't going to, Mike, I listened to four notes of a young blood song.

I haven't listened to any of the music other than the Aerosmith song. Okay, you should consider keeping it that way. That's my, was my concern. That's why I haven't. Oh, my God. That's so bad. It's so bad. That doesn't shock me at all.

In the same month, or the same, like, time period learning about young blood and role model. And I was like, well, I don't know if I like any of this going on. What about somber without the E and the one? somber somber yeah I don't know there's all these fake sounding people

but I'm not interested in listening to the music I just want to see Youngblood like you only you want to stay in the realm was this a second gate thing maybe we should

throw anyone on them just on main feed you want to stay in the realm of knowing about Youngblood but never hearing his music in the same way that I want to know what's happening on shifting gears the Tim Allen sitcom

but I don't want to watch an episode yeah it's more Mike Thin Slice Carlson I don't know what this is You kind of explain it, but I still don't understand this of voiding of the body of work. It amuses me that Tim Allen's back on TV for the third time doing the same shit, the same type of thing. I like knowing about it. I'm not going to gain anything else from actually watching the show, but I can keep track of it.

And the same way like Youngblood. I think he's like a charming looking fake looking rock star. He's like a nice young man. I like seeing clips of him, hugging fans, smoking cigarettes. typing so fast, Youngblood, Wikipedia, Controversy section. I think he's charismatic.

And I like just seeing, and now my algorithm shows me five to ten young blood clips a day. How are you possibly going to stay in the zone where you never end up hearing the music? You want to absorb as much Youngblood content as possible, but never, like at some point you're going to get a blast of a note.

It's just going to happen. It might happen. It hasn't happened yet. Other than the one collaboration with Aerosmith. But no, is it's just like this is like some weird Seinfeld masturbation contest with yourself like how long can I go we'll see loving young blood but never hearing a note of his music I get like one week he's gonna come in I'm out I can't do it anymore the music was too bad it sucks too much we we still

don't know if I I feel like someone had told us by this point if Jay Leno showed up on shifting gears because he showed up no we would know we would know If that has happened. He showed up on Master of Nye. It was like a recurring character. Or not Master of Nguer. Oh, my God. He was so moving on Master of Nun.

It's like the first dramatic turn. His face photographed so good in black and white. It's great barbecue on a taco show. No, last man standing. Cheiletto showed up on last man standing. And quick Google, yes, he has been on. That's just a few years. Yes.

Cool. Now you know. Is it the same character? Is it a multi-universe? It is multi-universe. For us, over, the Allenverse. The Allenverse. And then we got Chase Infinity.

She's a star in one battle after another. Scott, have you caught Chase Infinity who is in one battle after another? You've caught this piece of trivia. Why the name? Yeah. Why the name? I do know, yeah. Yeah, we all know.

Okay. Tell anyone who doesn't say it. Should we not tell the listener? Let's keep it silent, like Youngblocks music. I'm not here. do your research, Google it. She's named after Chase Meridian from Batman Forever and Buzz Light Ear's famous catchphrase to infinity and beyond, which is just

fantastic. I imagine your reaction to learning that is the same as Scott's learning. I was on that same Jay Leno episode. A complete, just like elation. Yes, absolutely the same. But it doesn't take much for me. I think I saw it first and texted it to you.

Yeah, we know you were drinking the colors first. We know that you know that you. new Chase Smynery and they were like, what did we name our kid last night? What? Oh God. Put it on TikTok. Getting the red string and just connecting the Bulldenmore things.

I don't get to be a taste maker. We are never naming babies on cut water again. You were like two, by the way, I don't hate to cut you down a peg. You were like two weeks late. I knew about that two weeks before. Wow.

I can't. You at least humored me and I thank you for the thrill. I don't want to take this away from him. until we're recording. Until we're recording. I can shame it publicly for big late to the news. Because I'm a cruel man.

Mike had caught the amylical cord, so he was there pretty early on. It was a very good point. So anyway, anyway, I don't know where we were. Yeah, I don't know. Did we do it? What did we not said about spooky world?

It moved behind the Patriots. Oh, yeah, yeah. It moved into the woods behind the page where the Patriots. It moved into a corner of the... Thanks to a relationship that this guy had with Bob Craft and it's like, yeah, I guess you guys would be friends.

You both see him. There's a guy, yeah, yeah. Partner, Sean Fogarty. Is that his name? That one I don't know. That is that what? Do I get that name wrong? I wrote it down.

There's a section where they're talking about like the more silent partner of spooky world. It's like, oh, he's the one who had all the great ideas. He would suggest stuff. And confusingly, John Fogarty has a son named Shane, but that is not who this is. It can't be. He was born the same year

that Spooky World was born. Different Shane Fogarty. I saw John Fogarty play at the bowl a couple weeks ago. The other thing, and this is not addressed in the documentary, but if you search Spooky World, there is currently

in New Hampshire a spooky world. Yeah, I think they're letting them use the branding. Or they did, okay. Because it's the same logo too. Yeah, yeah. I caught that and I was like, wait, this wasn't in the documentary. It seems like there is a spooky world, but it's not in the same state, and so it must be a licensing thing.

Okay. Interesting. I wonder how much that costs. Well, that they actually had fully, that licensing, they had fully locked down. But the old way, they didn't do any licensing. Right. It's confusing. It's weird in the documentary how everybody has so much, so much love for this place and the, like, wonderful octobers they spent there.

And then it moves to the parking lot of the stadium. and every every all the talking heads are like it sucked there we hated it it imagine it was gone burn it yeah no one had I don't know what happened yeah also it's not like off season for Gillette either like October's a pretty busy football mom and it does seem too proud of like I get like in the summer you would lease that out but say that again I said that's what got me yeah I was like wait don't they need that parking lot like I think they did that's what they determined very quickly wait that idea yeah we could fit seven more cars there. This is done.

That was an interesting moment in the documentary because it said, oh, after 9-11 they needed the parking lot. I'm like, what could that be? What? Because it's called the Patriots? You've been avoiding your branding of the one who gets excited about 9-11, and I'm glad you just

brought it back organically. Oh, please, for the sake of the current government, please do not say on genetics. I get excited about How many episodes of podcast the ride? Listeners call him Mr. 9-11. Oh, my God.

Oh, no. You could be missed 9-11. You want to join Ms. Jan. Yeah, so, yeah, no, there's not a single person that seems like happy about the newer version. Or like, oh, it was pretty good, but it was not quite the same. It just like, this sucks. We hate this. It had to be in this one sweaty barn outside of Boston.

That was it. Yeah, the spooky world I know is no longer. Like, I didn't ever mess with the Gillette one. Yeah, and obviously the charm, I'm sure, was the non-polish. The charm is, like, you're in, like, a barn that actually is, like, a perfect venue for a haunted attraction. Gillette Stadium, not so much. Yes, so I understand why that was probably less good. Or maybe it was still Foxborough all the time, I don't know.

I'm not sure. Right. And then John Krasinski was on your show talking about spooky world and describing an interaction. where he saw like a guy on the on the tractor somewhere so i don't know somebody punched a dracula yeah and then the police were there as he was leaving dracula was talking to a cop yeah the cop was sorting out right the conflicts between the two uh-huh and like there's a chance that that dracula was someone who just like wanted to go to spooky world and they're like we're sold out do you want a job yeah yeah yeah and got punched in the face yes the fun the law what did you trick me into

You brought me in this freak place to get punched? The lawlessness of stuff like this is so funny. Yes. And I just, I wish they explored that a little more in the documentary. I also was hook, line, and singer for that, like, sort of, like, the neighborhood carnival or, like, charity carnival in town to raise money. Like, as a kid, I was like, well, it's like Disney World. And looking back up, like, oh, yes, equally as safe. and reliable as old Disney World.

You put them on equal footing? As a kid, I was like, well, I can't go Disney World every weekend, but the volunteer fire department has a carnival coming, and they get some of the take. And we could win prizes. And I don't know why they have so many mirrors with Led Zeppelin logos on it, but that's interesting. Which we learned on the show was Coke mirrors.

Yeah, those weren't Coke mirrors. If you made the clown's head balloon explode, you could pick a coat mirror. Or a carton of cigarettes used to be a big thing. I think Tom Sharpley. Yeah, I think at the Wildwood Boardwalk, Wildwood, New Jersey Boardwalk midways, one of the prizes was a carton of cigarettes. That's incredible. Yeah.

Oh, 18 and older or any age? I don't know. That's wildwood's never been a terribly long. abiding place. You went to the prison carnival on the one open to the public day. I need the shank, but I want the cigarettes.

What am I going to pick? Can I pay the difference? Well, I mean, what do you think? Do you feel like this place had an impact on the love of haunts that makes you travel each year to this day? Like, did it light the spark for you? Did it have an impact on you?

It absolutely did. And in particular, like the jankiness that I kind of like with that sort of stuff sure sure yeah like I would never call not janky I think it's like terrific but what I like is that it feels a lot more like oh we got to put together a haunted house and we don't have like access to the same stuff that Universal

does yeah yeah it feels like a bunch of it feels like a town came together yeah yes I love the ultimate experience as opposed to like I get equally excited if there's like a really great street in the neighborhood where every house decorates for Halloween yeah yeah that is it's a accidentally I feel like the aesthetic of like junky-looking horror stuff

became so much of what Halloween is to all, to most of us. Like even just like horror hosts like with a shitty set and bad costumes and just like the early days of things like this where they just didn't have that very much money to make it look impressive. Right. But now that aesthetic is baked into what we like about Halloween, which is like shitty looking skeletons and stuff falling apart. I don't know.

It's funny. I think it's an accident that that happened. But I love it. That's what's great about, a big part of what's great about Halloween. Yeah. It's just like junky looking. There should be inherent jankiness. That's part of it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we haven't come across anywhere as charmingly janky as this. Yeah. And definitely fun. And who knew it would unlock a childhood breakthrough and unlock so many of our favorite podcast, the right characters.

So thank you for bringing it to our attention. The skull is coming from inside the house. You survived podcast. the fright. Let's exit through the Crip shop. Is there anything you'd like to plug? You can follow me, Mike Scallons, on Blue Sky or Instagram.

I wrote a feature called Bryant's coming of age comedy that hopefully you'll be able to see next year. It's got some really great people in it. Ben Wong, who's the current karate kid. Oh, wow. Edie Patterson, Randall Park, Natalie Morales, William H. Macy.

And I'm excited for people to see it. I am so excited to see it. Whenever there's an opportunity to see it. Yes, we're both in the odd little feature game that we're trying to get out there. I remember we were getting started around the, I think it was like this time last year and very excitedly texting like that we both had these things when it felt like nothing was getting made. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and now we're back to the nothing. And now and now, yeah, now it's back.

All right, this feels, this feels normal. But yeah, what an exciting time it was. So I'm psyched for you. And thanks for, thanks for joining us and for, you know, sending fun. stuff far away and chatting with us throughout the year. Yeah, my pleasure. Yeah, absolutely. And as for us, if you want grave dig even deeper,

join us on our RIP tier crypt3 where you get one more booness episode for just three more bones a month. That's at patreon.com slash podcast the ride. And look, I wasn't criticizing the way you were singing. I just want to let you know. I was sort of, it was just like saying that

I noticed that the odd way that they sang in the commercial. Mike, I think you're negating my feelings because I know how it felt. Do you just want to talk about Youngblood. Don't talk about his music, though. Spooky world. He's in good shape. How do you think Youngblood would sing it?

Spooky world. None of us would know. Spooky world. You do a speaking impression of Youngblood, not a singing one. Yeah, no, not a singing one. Forever. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gerdner, Brett Bohm, Joe Silio, and Alex

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