Podcast: The Ride - Star Tours with Kyle Mooney

Starting point is 00:00:00 podcast the ride announces the arrival of a two and a half hour episode featuring droid radio stations droid raps droid girlfriends tolerating droid dj side hustles kyle mooney enters the cabin to talk star tours original rex version only on Podcast The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, hosted by three guys whose last wills and testaments will just dictate what theme park font they want on their tombstone. I'm Scott Gairdner. Mine obviously would be the Epcot font prototype. I will make damn sure that's on my grave. Mike Carlson, any selections? Yeah yeah i think it's gonna be like frontier land because here's what i here's a this is a sort of a side note as i get older i find myself gravitating more toward frontier land than i did as a youth because i still love getting old

Starting point is 00:01:17 i guess that is what it is i i love epcot i love tomorrowland but as i get older i just love the the calm frontier land you know i i'm wistful for a place I never knew, I guess. So, I'm going to say right now, Frontierland, maybe. Like, somewhere in the world. Maybe what's on the sign, or maybe a big thunder kind of. The Frontierland sign, yeah. That sounds great. That's really nice.

Starting point is 00:01:37 So, yeah, I think that'll be it. It'll be like a wood, and the tombstone will be a plank of wood. Wonderful. Jason Sheridan? Yeah. Sure. Like you had died of consumption on the Oregon Trail, on a wagon trail.

Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, so just they had to make a makeshift grave. Yeah, a makeshift grave. And it's just a plank of wood they found on the side of the road. Yeah, I'll be a lot like Logan when I die. I'd have to say mine is, I don't know what the name of it would be, but it's sort of, it was on,

Starting point is 00:02:04 I think they've used it for both islands of adventure and the adventurers club and it sort of looks like that kind of arcing like greetings from so-and-so like the old postcard kind of uh font i can kind of picture that i suppose yeah huh i also really i usually if i go to a place and they have one of those like greetings from whatever town okay i usually get those i like those cars land too yeah that's almost like first generation california adventure oh yeah which you said you said you liked a lot living postcard you're the only person that's ever said that they miss the first run first time around i associated with like the the post-war

Starting point is 00:02:43 like american driving vacation. Oh, when you were young. Yeah, when I was young. When you were a young man. Yeah. So your tombstone will say, greetings from hell. Yeah, sure.

Starting point is 00:02:54 Great, perfect. And I don't mean to back you, our guest, into the font corner. But he has to answer. I don't know. It doesn't have to be a theme park font because I don't mean to include you in that. But if there's any fonts you want to call out

Starting point is 00:03:08 for a future Tombstone, and by the way, so excited to have today from Saturday Night Live and from his great film Brigsby Bear, Kyle Mooney is here. Yeah, thanks. Wow, I'm really excited about the font stuff. A lot of possibilities.

Starting point is 00:03:31 I don't know i when i i'm going with ariel black okay very solid right up top so whoever's picking the font set doesn't have to go too far down the list saves him a trip i don't know is that is that theme park relevant at all i'm sure it's in a theme park should i I Google Ariel Black theme park font or theme park logo? Yeah. There has to be somebody who used that. It's probably in there somewhere. And there's a myriad of fantastic fonts in that world. Maybe I want that Pleasure Island moon guy on my tombstone.

Starting point is 00:03:59 Oh, yeah. Oh, the funmeister. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can never remember his name. I just call him the moon guy. Are we getting to add a character, too? If you want. Yeah, yeah. I. I can never remember his name. I just call him the Moonga. Are we getting to add a character, too? If you want. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:06 I don't want to stay on this point forever, but feel free. Interject, interrupt any topic and say anybody you want. But you probably want, like, a country bear on there. No, I want Liver Lips McGrawl, probably. Hey, fantastic. Any other Tombstone requests? Well, I guess now I'm curious. Are we talking icons are allowed?

Starting point is 00:04:23 Because now we're talking about critters, it feels like, and not just like lettering type. You can get a lot of space on the tombstones. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, why not? Mickey, Goofy, Donald. Yeah, all of them. The big ones.

Starting point is 00:04:38 The whole gang. Do you expand all the way? Do everybody that a parking garage level is named after? Is Cher Chippendale in there? It's just those guys and it's an ariel black wow sweet and they're just like arms folded looking up like cool font uh yeah so you already know what it looks like yeah yeah i can imagine i got a pretty clear image i looked up uh ariel black and just a bunch of ariel little mermaid stuff came up so there's no way we're gonna be able to answer this question because that's not it is yeah it auto-corrected me okay okay so um well anyway now that we've covered that important stuff uh kyle welcome yeah thank you i'm such a fan uh

Starting point is 00:05:17 it's great to be here thank you so excited to have you and i know that this is like some of the goal of this podcast, I feel like, was to bring theme park fans out of the woodwork. And I know that you are one of those. And thanks for being so publicly on our podcast. But I feel like you're pretty noted in your love of theme park stuff. Is that? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:41 I don't know. But I do like going. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Well, I know you i do like going yeah absolutely yeah yeah well i know you wait you know you just said critters which when you were promoting griggs beaver i think i saw somewhere that you were you consider yourself particularly a critter fan which i like uh using that term yes yeah yeah at some point when i was in college uh a friend of mine started using the phrase, uh, critter pick, which, um,

Starting point is 00:06:06 kind of implies a genre of film with critters, kind of like in the wake of ET and gremlins. There are a lot of these like little guy animatronic movies, like, I don't know, munchies, munchie strikes back the sand fairy. Mac and me is probably another one.

Starting point is 00:06:24 I mean, you could argue you could put alf in that mix you know i mean yeah yeah yes but also like i think yeah like any creature like within splash mountain is could be considered a critter country right yeah i also not to jump too far ahead but i was i was unaware until this well this was a blank spot for me but until this week in preparing for this episode i had not seen flight of the navigator oh yeah which is in addition to being a space movie is also a critter movie yeah i like a very uh seminal film for me and uh especially like the part when uh is it um i get around by the beach boys that blasts and they're also insane that i'd

Starting point is 00:07:06 never seen that any like thing that combines culture and beach boys i'm yes and there are a couple notable things to me about that movie one it's so abstract and strange the like use of like time and like how he's just it's very scary he's like basically a young kid who all of a sudden wakes up and like his whole family's like several years older right but there's one scene where he's in like a hospital and i think uh sarah jessica parker is his nurse or doc or something is that is this accurate i don't you know what i've i didn't i skipped ahead to the parts involving the ship oh sure because the ship is relevant to the truth yeah sorry yeah yeah so you feel anyway it was a good there's a he's gift he's

Starting point is 00:07:51 he wakes up he's still the same age uh as he was like five years prior but five years have passed but you get a good look at like all the gifts that his family or like friends have given him now that he's because he was missing basically and it's like transformers in the box it's like just full-on like toys from 1986 or whatever the movie came out it's kind of a good good way to see what um what kind of cool gear one could have gotten that toys r us or kb Right. Kind of a snapshot in that moment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

Starting point is 00:08:26 it's a, it was a cool one and I didn't, if, if you don't know the connection, I'm talking about the, the voice of the ship, which is something shortens into max is the, is that,

Starting point is 00:08:38 that is voiced by Paul Rubens, who is of course the voice of Rex in today's time. Oh, right. This ship also was on display at MGM Studios. Am I wrong? I think so. It was on the Backlot Tour. I believe I saw it when I was a young man.

Starting point is 00:08:52 It's a miniature, right? No, it's kind of a full size. Is it like balsa wood full size? I did not know what the wood... I didn't check what the wood was. I mean, it looks like... Did it look kind of like... It looked like a ship chintzy

Starting point is 00:09:06 no it didn't look chintzy it looked good i'm trying to remember trying to undersell the old flight of the navigator i'll look it up to make sure but every now and then there would be props on display at disney mgm studios where like even as a kid i was like i could punch through this but that's the secret to movie making yeah Yeah, and I thought that was cool, like as a kid. You were excited to punch through it. I mean, like, oh, I could punch through this, but on the screen it looks like, yeah, an alien ship. I never went to Orlando as a child,

Starting point is 00:09:35 but I remember seeing images of the return to Oz, like a gate that existed somewhere. Oh, sure. I don't know if you guys ever saw that, but I like that movie too. Here it is. That doesn't look chintzy to me. Oh, yeah, okay. That is not what I was thinking of. That's a fucking sturdy-ass ship, if you guys ever saw that but i like that movie too here it is that doesn't look chintzy to me oh yeah okay that is not what i was thinking sturdy ass ship if you ask me that looks

Starting point is 00:09:50 like the one of the lost in space the movie ships from the 1998 movie from the 1998 that one gary oldman the movie we all have burned in our brain uh yeah i saw that opening weekend sure yeah i just don't remember it so we're agreed lost in space all the great films yeah yeah all the navigator um i that that brings i have i have another question related to uh to you specifically which is that you have i feel like you're also uh it's it's fairly well known you have a uh giant vhs collection um and i'm curious what your i'm curious what what in what treasures in there might be a parks relevant sure disney relevant well it's like so i made this movie brigsby bear with my friend dave directed it my friend kevin co-wrote it with me and like

Starting point is 00:10:38 a lot of the press we did was like basically people so you're into videos, right? I'm sure you're into videos. Which is like, way to go, Scott. Way to go. That's not an attack by any means. You should just go work for entertainment tonight, Scott. Do you have fun making them? Do you make any pranks? It's something that I feel guilty about talking about because I know either know of or know people

Starting point is 00:11:02 with much more massive collections. So I always get nervous that people are like much more massive collections so like i was getting nervous that people were like you think you're the face of vhs everything is terrible like as a grunt like now shots fired um parks related stuff uh yeah i mean i'm sure i'm sure i i bet you guys all have some of them overlaps like i couldn't i don't even know if i could come up with some of the titles on my on off hand but like yeah apocot videos or like i remember back in the day before as a child like you know those disney sing-along videos where you can you know like it would be like you'd go through pirates of the caribbean and like there'd be the you know bouncing mickey yeah um that was a nice that was a great like formative video that let

Starting point is 00:11:47 you like specifically the disneyland one because it let you like watch disneyland footage even when you weren't at disneyland yeah so you could stay thinking about it oh yeah i got another thing um that was kind of an influence on our movie was this show that was on the disney channel called welcome to poo corner i don't know if you guys remember that show yeah yeah uh i got a couple of videos of that oh sure that's a good one they've got like crazy there's like crazy like stuff about strangers and kind of like deeply uncomfortable yeah kind of psa type yeah and that was sorry this is tangential but the person who created that technology for those it was basically like a head that moves is kent this guy ken forsey who also created teddy ruxpin who worked at disney prior oh interesting um he also did the technology for

Starting point is 00:12:43 a show called um dumbo's flying circus which was like the very same era yeah yeah i don't think those have come up on here yeah i i remember those really well and i liked them even though now looking back there's something like grotesque yeah they're all kind of perversing like the way they're they're shot um yeah i don't know what it is there's this kind of like an icky soup and like seemingly low it's like high production value in like the animatronics they're using but then like just dumb backgrounds sure sure yeah just vaguely yeah that's how they did it it was like it was miniatures and heads like Teddy, or like... They were suits, right? People in suits.

Starting point is 00:13:26 A turtle's technology. Yeah, yeah. But their heads contained... Right, right. Yeah. Is that... Yeah, where they had like a remote control head? Is that how it worked?

Starting point is 00:13:34 Because that's what the turtles were. The turtles had a head that was being controlled off by somebody else. There was somebody working like controls on the turtle head. I imagine something like that. Yeah. Have you ever seen that? Like a puppeteer, yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.

Starting point is 00:13:44 So then... just turn around there's a toy of them behind you so are the actual heads of the actors in the heads or they no they removed their heads no yes they were the heads were in there it's just that to move the mouth and the teeth and they get something expressive there's no way a human face could manipulate that they're using like i don't know if you said like rc yes remote control car controllers that's crazy so nuts and it's like a little when you see the mechanism it's like a an undressed kermit head almost like just a little like uh a little sockish thing um yeah that's yeah sockish yeah does that help you picture no i can picture what's funny is like that technology has evolved so much to the point of like when uh force awakens came out there was you had one of these the bb8s you could control

Starting point is 00:14:32 with an app on your phone and like it's the technology has evolved so much that not only did we get it in like consumer grade we got bored with it yeah i sold my bb like and that would have been like that was like a whole team working on that movie to like control these heads yeah bb wasn't even ready when the when the movie came out because they were still working on the like the commercial cheapish version of the technology oh gotcha do you still of all the things you could complain about about the the new star wars and force awakens and stuff i do i i think it's cool that bb-8 is real i think it's neat when he comes out on the oscars you can keep doing that like you know like i like bb-8 yeah i yeah as much as bb-8 wants to appear on television, it makes me forgive a lot, I think.

Starting point is 00:15:26 I don't know how quickly or soon you like to seg in to the topic. Any time. And with this one, whenever you want. Just one note that I think about that's notable to me about Star Wars, Star Tours, rather. Sorry. Should we say we're talking about Star Tours? We're talking about Star Tours.

Starting point is 00:15:44 The original Star Tours. The original, like the improv suggestion yes um one of the things i love i love about it and loved about it it was like seeing c3po or or r2d2 or even rex or or whatever these are to me they're real robots they're that's just as good as the real thing you know what i mean it's not um an animatronic trying to be a human pirate this is for all in my eyes intensive purposes like a real robot yeah and and possibly real movie props used initially it seems like the disneyland ones it seemed like they retrofit it with animatronic stuff in it sure sure yeah i agree a very magical thing about it and and something that uh that was that's been said about muppet vision 3d similarly although it's a movie but the characters who were in the

Starting point is 00:16:37 room with you like it it's it is the same medium like a muppet is a real thing and then they're in the room with you there was talk of more muppet rides and that would have been very much you're there with kermit and yeah that's a big uh it's a big thing that makes star tours great i think uh um well yeah let's let's get into it and let's also clarify right uh that this is in a classic podcast the ride split up of topics this is we are talking about star tours original we are drawing the line at the the revamp at the adventures continue not in my mind because of any like we refuse or there's a quality because i i enjoy uh the new one a lot but uh just for the sake of otherwise which is good for you guys because you can do a second episode.

Starting point is 00:17:26 Oh, yeah. We got to thank the long game. We can't burn off all these wonderful weeks. You could do an individual video for every type of journey one has on Star Tours. Oh, yeah, for sure. I was going to say, you should for sure do one just on Jakku and one for sure just on the crate sequence

Starting point is 00:17:47 that leads to Batuu at Black Spire Outpost in Star Wars Galaxy's Edge. I'm sorry, I've just gone cross-eyed and say, what? Look, any opportunity to drag these things out

Starting point is 00:18:02 as long as possible, which we've been having this ongoing discussion, which I'll bring up and then everyone will tweet at me, Scott is dead wrong and I hope he's torn apart by wolves. The podcast villain. Yeah, apparently. But we've been discussing, there's been a steadfast refusal

Starting point is 00:18:18 to do a split of Kung Fu Panda and Shrek 4D. Oh, yeah, yeah. Jason and I are staunchly denying. of uh kung fu panda and shrek 4d oh yeah yeah jason i couldn't even convince of to do a news slash a kung fu pant you were good and i so at this point i'm putting the onus on you i like let's build up as much as possible the grand the grand ultimate kung fu panda 4d episode we walked out of kung fu panda and scott was like i don really know. I don't really have much to say about that. And he was like, we combined that with Shrek. And Jason and I were like, no way.

Starting point is 00:18:50 We are doing a whole two hours on Kung Fu Panda. I know. We got a lot to say. I know. This, for some reason, is an issue where I'm a fuss budget. I mean, the effect of DreamWorks animation alone on the Universal Studios landscape. That's right. Jason's right jason's right that's gonna be 45 minutes right there scott is like really for a normal person you're

Starting point is 00:19:11 like weird but for the people who listen to this show and jason and i yeah you were very conservative conservative theme park mind you can always land being a centrist can make you an extremist that's correct depending on where you are but anyway the point is this this split up is great i'm very happy to be doing it but let's but but if if i could pose the the grand uh philosophical question what kyle why star tours yeah um well i told you about the real robots. Yeah. Here's one thing that to me is notable about it. This is without even getting into necessarily the ride itself.

Starting point is 00:19:54 I first went on this ride at Disneyland. I'm from San Diego. So we grew up going to Disneyland. And I probably, the ride opened in 87. I probably, I ride opened in 87. I probably, I'm born in 84. I probably went on it in like 1990, 89, 91.

Starting point is 00:20:11 So around there. And I'm gonna give a little backstory here. So I apologize. No, please. But I'm the youngest of three sons. And a lot of the stuff I was into as a child were things that were handed down to me um so like i am really into like 80s children children's television shows like in cartoons like thundercats

Starting point is 00:20:36 or transformers um he-man but like i'm a little i don't know about you guys but i'm like a little off the cusp like it's like those weren't like i feel like i'm more of the era of like disney afternoon into like nicktoons i was born in 85 i know exactly what you're talking about where you get thundercats or transformers but like you find them like i would always find them at yard sales i never got them new right we just like see them that almost made it more mysterious yes yeah and for me it was like my brothers had the toys so i got them and then i'd like go to blockbuster to rent the videos basically because it wasn't on you couldn't see these cartoons on tv anymore it was just like transformers had just ended i just

Starting point is 00:21:22 missed it i was like probably so obnoxious to my parents because i'd be like i want transformers had just ended i just missed it i was like probably so obnoxious to my parents because i'd be like i i want transformers and it's like well you can't anymore you're you're late by like a year how do you how do you explain that to a kid though yeah yeah you're i would like i remember like as however old i was seven or six or whatever like going to a like finding myself at a toys r us and seeing like a clearance aisle with a transformer sign i was like oh my god they still have that like i was like aware and then like combing through it and being like oh i don't see anything and then like asking an employee they'd be like no sorry no they're not here um but anyway the same goes for star wars i got i i kind of inherited all of my brother's star wars toys and um was really in was pretty into star star wars and what i like about star

Starting point is 00:22:15 tours is that this is kind of like in the late 80s early night like going into the early 90s it's kind of like i feel like a dark period for star wars yeah it's like the last things that had happened where they made like a couple ewok tv specials there was a droid series and an ewoks cartoon series yeah yeah and then like and that was like 85 maybe and return of the jedi was 83 and those are steven if you like those they're not like they're they're like off they're not incredible by incredible by the ewoks tv movies are upsetting right in many ways giant spiders uh whole families dying not really yeah i've never done them actually uh but this was it felt like the only place to really immerse yourself in star wars at that

Starting point is 00:23:00 time because it was prior to like special editions or like now you can go anywhere and buy star wars gear right yeah yeah there's never been a time at this point in time it felt like the star trader was like the only place where one could get like relevant right star wars merchandise is that one simpsons joke about how when ralph wins the diorama contest with just with star wars figures still in their package and they get laughs out of skinner just saying the names and my favorite chewy and imagine doing that joke today you just say the names of the character like they're so we're hit over the head with them at all times but that felt like a joke from a time where is star wars winding down yeah it was it was like it's not fair

Starting point is 00:23:52 to say it was obscure because it was obviously a giant franchise but you just couldn't you couldn't go to kmart and get like toothpaste or whatever you know what i mean yeah you need to on it or something yeah um and now even if the run ever ends of of a of a movie or two every year the merch thing will never no it's like we're deep in it uh so that was cool like having a place to go to uh totally to experience star wars and that felt like new and different from whatever media i had access to at home and at that time the only before the other iterations the ride opened or any other themed stars experiences like the only place where you could you're in the world and you're then you're hearing the music and you're totally engrossed in everything um and yeah and i remember like i had like a star tours poster in my

Starting point is 00:24:42 room and one of those plush wickets i don't know if you guys remember those, but I feel like people have those. From Disney? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've had them again. Yeah, I'm sure. I don't know if they're making them currently, but they were doing a whole line of the different Ewoks. So you could get pretty deep into the Ewok characters, which as many characters as I know, I don't remember a lot of these characters' names.

Starting point is 00:25:02 That's a relief. So Scott didn't want me to go down a list of 10 Ewoks. Pod racers though. I can do that, but we're not talking about pod racers. But aren't they all like named? Like they, there's,

Starting point is 00:25:12 it's like easier to know the names of the pod racers. Oh, I disagree. Oh really? Oh, it's not. Yeah. They're all like,

Starting point is 00:25:18 actually, well they are named, but I'm just, Oh no, they're not named in the movie. You have to like, Oh, that is a deeper dive.

Starting point is 00:25:23 Okay. I didn't know if you ever saw the ESPN graphics graphics or whatever no no i don't think so uh as you'll find from that i don't know the the films that well the prequels this will keep or really any of them in a way you want the original i mean i know that i don't know i know it all but not you were never an obsessive because i was absolutely an obsessed star wars kid. No point in my life was I totally obsessed to Star Wars. For sure. Yeah, I was the perfect age for the special editions. Scott's the villain here again.

Starting point is 00:25:52 The special editions and the action because they did start Star Wars, I think around the same time, like 96, 97? Special editions? Yeah. 97, I think? Yeah. I think that's true. Transformers, I remember, too, they started

Starting point is 00:26:07 to bring back around. Yeah. It felt like in 94, 95, all these things kind of started to come back. Yeah, it was for a kid at that, it was an embarrassment of riches between X-Men and Power Rangers and Star Wars and Transform, like, all, like,

Starting point is 00:26:24 at one, it was action figures. All the Batman stuff. And Goosebumps and Transform. All at one, it was action figures. All the Batman stuff. And Goosebumps and Batman. And that's the only things we'll ever get again. Those series of IPs. That'll be it forever. There's no new stuff. Which is fine.

Starting point is 00:26:40 And I suppose, maybe it doesn't matter, but eBay didn't exist, so you couldn't access any of that merchandise that way yeah um but yeah so that was very cool to me about it and i think like just as a young child uh it really i don't know it opened my imagination in terms of like i thought it was a cool play on the whole thing like it's just like oh yeah this is like going to the airport and like the the conceptually i just i thought it was like super fascinating even as a kid and and uh and it kind of like expanded the universe because it's like

Starting point is 00:27:18 oh yeah it's not it can be more than just the movies like take a trip to hoth and go skiing right well the idea is like corners of this universe that there's enough there that here's this little outpost where some odd thing is happening and there's something though the ride culminates in blowing up the death star the idea that like we're not doing the stuff in the movie where it's not where it's not repeating all the events of it we're experiencing a new story that is like in some ways very tangentially especially when it when it was rex and not c-3po it's even a character you don't know it's like it's during the live show with tony baxter i asked him about big thunder when i and i was noticing like there's no human robots on the ride.

Starting point is 00:28:07 It's just animals. And it does give you a different feeling when you don't see something familiar or another human. So it's in a similar way on the first Star Tours, where you don't see a bunch of aliens that you know. You're not running into Han. It's like you're out here in the middle of it with this new robot. It's your first time. You've never met him before. And you're going on in the middle of it with this new robot that if it's your first time you've never

Starting point is 00:28:25 met him before and like you're going on this own adventure yourself so it's not like the new star tour is where it's full of care like it's that's full of characters and alien races so like it's a whole different kind of feeling also in addition to that well and there's no moment like in the you know in something like the spider-man ride where villains have taken over but and you're like lost in the streets but then spider-man shows up oh phew he will get us right exactly there's never that in original star tours some x-wing guy shows up but you don't know him either yeah you know the general idea of the x-wings will help you but star tours worried yeah what are you doing here i don't want to jump around too much but i love like in all of the scott sent me some videos of

Starting point is 00:29:12 like the ceremonies and stuff like anytime you see one of these x-wing fighters i feel or pilots rather i feel like they all have like a dark mustache basically yeah that's what makes them distinguishable it's the only like face real estate they have to differentiate themselves yeah that's and it really puts it in in the in the 70s which is a strange thing about star wars in general that went since there since some are made in the 70s and some are made in the 2000s than some are now but like undeniably in the middle there there's a big run where it feels very 80s and you have to like reconcile that with the prequels and the end seven through nine you really got to go what happened well why is it not like the 80s anymore right uh which is a obviously it's where it's where they lose me

Starting point is 00:30:02 sure of course well now with they're recreating people's faces for like Rogue One and stuff, so you can fully recreate like 70s and 80s English character actors. As long as, yeah, if they get a couple stashes in there, I'll be fine. I was psyched for that when I saw my boy Graham Moff Tarkin come back.

Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah. I was okay with it. I wasn't psyched, though. I mean, I just like that old British... Peter Cushing? Yeah, Peter Cushing. All the old British character actors who show up in Star Wars, I like.

Starting point is 00:30:32 I found the Carrie Fisher one a little more unnerving. Yeah. No, that's weird, yeah. Yeah. Do you find it unnerving in Star Tour? Sorry to get into some adventures continue and break the rules, but she had not passed by then, but by the time you're seeing her hologram,

Starting point is 00:30:53 but are you on some level weirded out that it's a digital Carrie Fisher? Oh, because it's so small you don't notice the horrible uncanny valley or whatever. I think I'm used to seeing projected princess leia because of new hope so that one less um but yeah i don't know they zoomed in on her face it might be weird but they're not gonna do that if you had to do a whole scene with her or if she was in the little thing like the little box that pops up that's usually reserved for like poe dameron or finn or whatever then maybe that would be weird i started laughing the first time i saw uh maz kanata in her little jet pack show up that one's

Starting point is 00:31:32 i i don't know if i like it or not in the new one but i was just like you do like it i i kind of liked it just because i was like oh she's here now all right now enough enough new star tours talk continue we gotta go back yeah yeah, yeah. Let's go back. One more Maz Kanata. I mean, so I think one big thing for me on this attraction that is like a big plus in its book is Rex is an original character. Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:56 I was thinking about like you had said at the live, I think you said it on stage, we were talking about at least beforehand, tony like why do i like big thunder so much and i was trying to figure out like why do i find i find rex so endearing yeah well it has the spirit of his like character right like figment and rex both have like this very endearing like childish and you get them right away you you understand who they are uh maybe i was thinking about this too and maybe i like rex a lot because he's he's nervous and he's not super confident and it's the first time i got on the ride i'm scared to go on the ride as i am on any ride but that's he's like a conduit

Starting point is 00:32:40 to let me know uh that that's that's okay there's another nervous person who I can relate to. That might be right. That makes sense. And also his claws are cool and his head is cool and he's got that weird round mouth and his neck goes up and down and he's the best. I have no levels here. I just love Rex.

Starting point is 00:33:07 He really is. The multiple arm here look i brought toys i have toys with it's one of the only things i have toys do you have the park stars one of him i don't have the park stars i do i have that it looks really good i have it upstairs well here's here's my full toy array well there that's coming out first the star speeder nice uh yeah this i bought this that's gotta be about what three hundred thousand dollars i think so next man eating gallery i'm cleaning up um i got a range of decent splits so i get some but the this is uh i got this in france because they still i got to go in france when Star Tours was still going let me play some sound effects oh so you heard Luke Heme

Starting point is 00:33:48 yes yes so correct I know about Luke Heme now yeah yeah yeah when it opened up and he said bonjour made me so happy yes yeah yeah he did a great job and just so how delightful to be

Starting point is 00:34:04 you know this's the only one left yeah but but you're in france and you get to hear it in french let me play some sound effects oh no that's doors yep that's cool pretty sick okay that's just that's functional white noise yeah yeah i got some sleep yeah yeah um and then uh we got an r2 oh great yeah and then the doors open and there is a little rex inside uh you can take a look at that yeah yeah seeing the actual the actual seat arrangement, recognizing that the door is right beside. If you look at the image, the front window that we as an audience would be looking at,

Starting point is 00:34:52 that doesn't seem to be anything that we ever see. No. Yeah, that is like, well, it's a diagram of the ship. Yeah, that's true. Maybe that's something that Rex has to monitor before the flight begins. Sure, sure, sure. That's safe mode. They booted up the Starspeeder 3000 in safe mode, and that's what you say?

Starting point is 00:35:12 It's a screensaver. Yes, please give it to me. Yeah, this is right in your wheelhouse, Mike. Yeah, this is like schematics. Very interesting to see Scott. Scott is a toy that I don't own. Yeah. Well, because it's the only thing I like this much. For sure.

Starting point is 00:35:26 It is so funny that you like Star Tours more than you like Star Wars, any of the movies. I really do. And Star Tours came first to me because I probably went on it the first time in like 93, 94. And the movies were not re-released until 97. And my parents were not super into them and in fact my dad a couple years ago asked me to explain he how did he phrase it he said you know star wars what's going on in that like i don't know the story who are they who is the war with is it like the uh are the are the

Starting point is 00:36:00 aliens fighting the people it's kind of a fair question. Uh-huh. Well, is it? Do you mean he's rebelling in the Empire? I think he thought, my dad thinks that like, Han, Luke, Leia are against C-3PO and Darth Vader. Like anyone in masks. Right, right. Anyone made of plastic. And this is made all the stranger by the fact that my dad is a family friend of John Williams.

Starting point is 00:36:29 Wow. And has known him on and off for a while, which I really wanted to. They don't see each other super often, but I said the next time you see him, I want you to ask John Williams, what is Star Wars? Just to see, does he laugh at that or is he like can we change the subject or do you get like a beautiful eloquent simple distillation of what is

Starting point is 00:36:53 Star Wars. I can say John Williams would not be a bad guest for your podcast. That's true. Is he a Parks fan? Like I just mean I don't want to. Ask your dad. it might be it might be a chore when he's gonna do these things i always wonder you know when someone of that cat like john will like there were so few people at his level and he's such a lifer and had such effect

Starting point is 00:37:20 on film like what is what do they like like what do they like for entertainment like what do they what i know is that john williams uh because my dad just asks any music my dad is with john williams doesn't know anything about star wars so instead he's like uh so what uh what about the beach boys what do you think of those guys he's like at for out for no read it's just the only music thing my dad can think to ask and he john williams just said oh i don't go in for any of the rock stuff it's not for me and his son has been the singer of toto on and off for a very long time and apparently he's like i don't get what he does uh anymore he couldn't compose a score and i couldn't do a uh song. Wow. I think he just doesn't have like a...

Starting point is 00:38:07 Yeah, so he's pure classical music, from what I can tell. Sounds like they have an understanding. Yeah, yeah. I like the idea of John Williams talking about his son. Like, yeah, he's doing the on and off Toto thing. I don't get it.

Starting point is 00:38:21 As long as he comes back in one piece. It's a hobby that he's got um where where was all this well we were talking about the toys and then i i mentioned luke hammett i don't really know how to say it really he dubs the voice of rex in french and uh in japanese it's an actor it was an an actor named Yuji Mitsuya. Okay. Both of them dubbed Michael J. Fox in their respective languages, translations of Back to the Future. Both Japan and France?

Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah. Wow. Mitsuya and Hammett did Michael J. Fox. And I think, yeah, at least in the japanese one it says back to the future i think in the french the french actor did a lot of michael j fox's stuff yeah yeah yeah he's him and like everything from family ties to uh atlantis yeah and apparently the french translation of family ties is sacred family which really makes it heavier but maybe that's that's something too that like that's some shared dna like marty is a guy who's not supposed to be there yeah in

Starting point is 00:39:34 backstaff he's not a super confident uh pilot or captain or any character kids like very much she seems like okay we all liked marty right loved yeah of course i'll say love now how i'm curious how uh aware were you guys when seeing rex in action who paul rubens was or what did that mean anything to you i knew who paul rubens was i was a huge peewee fan but i did not know for many years past i did not know it was him until years later oh really i was a big peewee fan too just watching i don't think i really had any i don't remember peewee toys that oh i have tons of peewee toys i think that was another one i caught the tail end of um i have vivid memories of going into department stores and finding like a little cherry and finding all

Starting point is 00:40:22 everybody whoa yeah i have all of it still in my parents' basement. I'll bring it out. I'll bring it out. I have, I have a chair. I have cherry. We learning Peewee that Paul Rubens was Peewee and Rex, I think was like a thing I would have learned in like elementary school or

Starting point is 00:40:37 middle school. When I started to like piece together again, what MGM studios does of like telling you how this is made and the people behind all this stuff I thought like that was a really cool trivia thing were you aware of that when you went? I think so yeah I feel like it came to an age

Starting point is 00:40:59 you know every boy has that moment where they learn that Rex is voiced by Paul Reuben, right? Your father says that, I don't know what your parents tell you. Your father sits him down, son. Something important to tell you. It is when you do realize that. Well, a couple things.

Starting point is 00:41:16 One, it's remarkable how much it is a different character, though they're not worlds apart. But it's for sure like a tilt. You don't hear that and then go, oh go oh yeah he's just doing peewee it's for you hear little similarities and laugh and everything but it's definitely a different character and also like i think it kind of blew up my brain as a kid in general like wrapping your head around he wait he's not peewee peewee is not a guy a real person he's a character and that actor can do other things and it really made it so when he when paul rubin showed up in anything else you see you like it was so striking right absolutely his non-peewee

Starting point is 00:42:00 because filmography is peewee would appear in things that a human actor would appear. He would do Letterman or something like that. He hosted Saturday Night Live. He did a full... I don't think he ever put a... He didn't put on different clothes over the suit or a wig or anything. I think he was just Pee-wee in every sketch. Yeah, that made it so confusing

Starting point is 00:42:20 that how can he be different? But he's so great in Batman Returns and and later blow and that's one Elton John video he's good oh yeah Timberlake is that the same video right with Timberlake yeah yeah I get this it this train don't stop yeah or something I believe some that the Robert Downey jr. was the first video the first Robert Downey jr was the first video that yes the first was robert downey jr lip dub this train don't stop here anymore as paul rubens and timberlake i figured it out too he's a mystery man oh that's right i remember buffy the vampire slayer the film yeah yeah he looks like the first movie i saw i think that like i remember coming off of uh

Starting point is 00:43:02 the incident uh-huh sure yes was it released after and they had to like downplay i couldn't I remember coming off of The Incident. Uh-huh. Sure. Yes. Was it released after and they had to downplay it? I couldn't tell. I mean, as a child, I remember,

Starting point is 00:43:12 I don't know when that movie came out. I think it maybe was. I think it was the first kind of post-Pee-Wee thing. I feel like Mystery Men was like, they were like, ah, this is his comeback. He'll just fall from grace.

Starting point is 00:43:22 We were ready to. That was 98 though, wasn't it? Yeah. Mystery Men? And wasn't The Incident. Eamon? Yeah. And wasn't the incident a few years prior? The incident, which in our modern world was much earlier. Which is kind of harmless. Not harmless,

Starting point is 00:43:34 but seems a lot more low stakes in 2018, I feel like. In today's world, yes. I'd say so. It's funny, though, that I was thinking about the incident and how the he he danced around it just perfectly for us good boys but the uh that there was a time where tomorrowland was running that you had paul rubens in star tours and then a few doors away michael jackson

Starting point is 00:44:00 in a bad michael jackson era i remember how like uncomfortable it felt having eo open when he was in in a bad way oh right right there was a little like 95 yeah i don't i don't know that i like clocked it i might have like been to the park but not even gone to that sector yeah yeah yeah well it's easy to avoid and like eo was like probably regardless of that probably on the decline to some extent right i remember when michael jackson my parents having to really dance or like me figure me asking questions about michael jackson and why does he look that way and what's going on what did the news say about him and i remember being a real like problem for my parents i feel like i remember them murmuring about like how do we tell him because I

Starting point is 00:44:46 worshipped I loved Michael Jackson that must be a probably for any parent having to like you probably are so mad at the celebrity or whoever it is for like god damn it now I have to figure out how to frame this to my kid

Starting point is 00:45:00 I mean it's easier now when all the kids like favorite youtubers are like psychopaths or sex perverts like immediately they hit 14 15 and they're just crazy so the kids know already yeah the kids know already you need to tell me that the youtuber who does blackface is not an okay person um mommy why won't ninja stream fortnite with women gamer that's for the real young ones in the crowd i'm glad i barely understand that yeah yeah i know i recognize twitch you said i know what that is and i know what fortnite is it's a video game oh okay ninja is like the most popular uh game streamer oh he's a person they

Starting point is 00:45:46 were selling a man yeah a sexist man well he's what he's dancing around he's like well i got a wife and i just don't want to confuse things but like he did it really weird yeah it's weird confused he doesn't want to he doesn't want to have female gamers guest on his stream because uh you know that could get it does sound it's very similar but like on the boardwalk in jersey this summer i was like are they selling fucking ninja t-shirts like with his logo on it next to like the avengers t-shirts it was very weird strange well disney don't do a 3d movie with, don't do a 3D movie with it. Don't do a 3D movie with Ninja. But do keep working on the Jake and Logan Paul attraction. As many of those as possible.

Starting point is 00:46:30 The e-ticket. Have we fully covered Rex? I mean, we can go back. Because this is such a rare air I have here to talk about why Rex is great. We can tease him. There's a couple other things. These aren't on-the-ride things. I told you a couple years ago, I think at this point,

Starting point is 00:46:51 I texted you and I said, Rex is going to be on Star Wars Rebels. Yes. And you were very excited to watch, and it was the world's biggest letdown. That was off. Do you know about this kind of thing? No, I don't.

Starting point is 00:47:03 There was a cartoon, a Star Wars animated series, and Rex was going to be on it. They teased it, voiced by Paul Rubens. When we say tease, are we talking like online commercials or like just a blog? It was. Maybe just a still image. Rex is coming back. I think there was one YouTube ad that highlighted it or something

Starting point is 00:47:26 that was like featuring rex and then like all the theme park blogs picked up on it and it was a big deal and it tricked scott into watching it but live maybe maybe it did yeah yeah that was like you cleared the schedule for it major event yeah yeah yeah cancel plans uh missed my mom's birthday um here's i wrote down one of rex's classic quotes from star wars rebels we are approaching garel please prepare for landing that's all that's it there's a line about like protocol he has four lines it's the boringest shit i've ever seen i'm still mad about it. Was it Paul Reubens? It was Paul Reubens, but he didn't sound like Rex. I felt like they...

Starting point is 00:48:10 I don't blame him for not being clued into his own character. That was probably one or two sessions decades ago. If I were doing the thing, I would make sure he heard a tape so he knew how to conjure it up but i didn't think i think it was real lazy all around i hated this thing uh i and i you know what i i'm experiencing when i think about rex on star wars rebels is this must be how you feel all the time seeing star wars characters not saying your favorite star wars characters not treated the way that you want. This is the only thing where I have the Star Wars rage.

Starting point is 00:48:49 And luckily, it's 50 seconds of a TV show. It's not your whole life like with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I still get... I'm still worked up about it. But if Rex showed up in the sequels and I didn't like how he was utilized or if he was like killed or something. Fortunately, I feel great

Starting point is 00:49:09 because my favorite Star Wars character are the dice. Han Solo's famous dice. Oh, you call the dice characters. I think the dice are kind of a character. Okay. Well, don't worry. The dice have a lot of screen time in the last few movies. Are they in?

Starting point is 00:49:23 I didn't see Solo. I hear they're in Solo. Oh, they're in the last few movies are they in i didn't see solo i hear they're in solo oh they're in there the dice are in solo um it is possible though that because i've heard you guys have spoken or talked about uh rex coming back to the new star wars yes dj rex so when i was oh we're gonna say that i could imagine that could possibly make you nervous because that implies serious voice direction i would think oh yeah that's true are they doing i don't think it's been confirmed if paul rubens is part of it i would have to imagine that would be he's still around they haven't

Starting point is 00:49:55 confirmed it but djs aren't don't always talk he might be a silent dj yeah i don't they haven't confirmed the details of it when i first learned it, and this is another situation where I texted, I think maybe you alone for sure texted you. Could have been. Probably texted you as well, though. But it might have been separate. It might have been not on the podcast yet, so I think I texted you and you separately about this.

Starting point is 00:50:18 I don't even remember this world. Because I was in the podcast. Yeah, it doesn't feel real. I was at D23. I was in the presentation for Star Wars Land. And one of the first things they said was like, you know, an old favorite is going to come back to Star Wars Land. But he's got a new job. And then they put out on screen it was Rex and he was DJing.

Starting point is 00:50:36 And the place went insane. The ovation that received like rivaled the whole land being announced. Oh, man. This, like 5,000 nerds cheering Rex. I wonder if, like, Disney people are ever like, God, have we fucked up everything? We should have just been exploiting this character. We built this entire land.

Starting point is 00:50:57 Who would think? I hope so. Every time they mention, like, a figment or a Rex or something, yeah, those big gatherings, those big fan gatherings. People lose their minds. Now that's there. Now I could see a regular person going to Star Wars Land and not knowing what the hell's going on. Hey, this DJ's stupid.

Starting point is 00:51:18 Watch me DJing. Watch me throw blue milk at him. Play Despacito, idiot. I do think it might be like a sunny eclipse situation though i think where you just eat and you can like sit right by him and he fucks man i want to know i will i will i'll adopt your your habits and i will that i will wait hours yeah get the the best possible booth that the because then you can we can spend more time with rex as long as he's in character and voiced by paul rubens

Starting point is 00:51:52 and we feel that they're doing him like right by uh our memory of him is now we can spend hours with rex we don't have to spend three minutes with him in the oh yeah there's no door that goes up i can stay there from from getting a day in the clothes yeah oh man i think he's gotta be too like uh learning on his feet like he was in star i feel like he's got to be a soundcloud dj just learning it he can't be like a uh steve aoki vici god rest his soul uh superstar d, and he can be like a rich kid vanity project DJ. I think that the guy, whoever was on stage,

Starting point is 00:52:30 it might have been Bob Chapek, head of Parks and Resorts at the time, he might have announced that Rex, he might not be so good at DJing. I think they teased that he's a little in over his head. He's got a good heart and he's trying his best.

Starting point is 00:52:45 Exactly. And that's probably what makes him so endearing. Have you guys ever thought about the fate of Rex after this failed trip to Endor? Well, oh, yeah. Did he get fired? He's got to have been fired. He has to have been fired.

Starting point is 00:52:58 But also, I want to stay on this, but I did a little research about the droids in the queue these g2 yeah the g2 but like they're also shitty at their jobs it seems like so like star tours might just generally be a shitty company i have a big i have official what seems to be canon information about this according to the star wars encyclopedia and i don't know what that is and how much weight it carries but rx-24's flight during the star star tours ride quote proved something of a harbinger for the future of the star tours travel agency within months of the battle of endor accidents and poor management drove the company to go out of business wow so yeah they

Starting point is 00:53:42 were only what we experienced in that ride was dead and gone three months later. So like, we were essentially on like the mega bus of the Star Tours universe. That's fun. So that means that like

Starting point is 00:53:54 this DJing gig is like, is like next thing. Yeah. He needs it. And he's like an Uber driver who also was a DJ. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:02 Yeah. He hopefully like took some time to find himself maybe got a little severance and maybe doing some odd I don't know about that severance I don't think the unions are strong in space Jason that's true in thinking about a full star tours universe film or something if you could see what happens to him right after him being chewed out by some or is it wait would it would c-3po or maybe c-3po and r2d2 kind of good cop bad cop right uh rex and c-3po understands because he's also kind of bumblet but r2d2 blurbles and c-through beos like fired isn't that a little harsh that's a good point because

Starting point is 00:54:47 it is r2d2 who puts in the navigation to like light speed to end or r2 and then and they overshoot it that's not rex's fault that's r2's calculations good point and everything from there rex is trying his best to yeah also so maybe this is obvious to everybody but does admiral akabar work that's true like real veterans that's right this is a it's really a ride about veterans affairs finding your place in the world there are two i was just i was sent on the new star tours two days ago there's two mon calamari which are the name it's the name of the alien race okay um and yeah there are two of them up there so they still work there so they still work there now but oh wait but the new but Adventures Continue is a prequel.

Starting point is 00:55:45 Are you aware of that? I think I did know that. But then. But it still doesn't make sense because they go. They have like Last Jedi, right? Yes, exactly. So Force Awakens and Last Jedi pop in. So the whole timeline is full.

Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah, the timeline's a mess in Adventures Continue. But so either way, but then, so he, that's a job he got, but then he got recruited again in Force Awakens. There was no younger Mon Calamari that could take his job. I guess he'll never work in Star Tours again. Then he gets blown up in The Last Jedi. Boy, bummer. Just unceremoniously.

Starting point is 00:56:17 Star Tours existed for some amount of time. That means, because we're talking Phantom Menaceace era to post return of the jedi is that accurate yes and up until probably at least until force awakens i don't know how oh wait maybe not because if in a couple months it fell apart yeah i guess i guess not so yeah that's still a decades long run and it straddled multiple generations like in all of Anakin Skywalker's lifetime Star Tours was a travel because there are pod races

Starting point is 00:56:52 on the new one yeah so then it makes it to so so Phantom Menace to Sith is like what 15 years I don't know couldn't tell you that like 15 years I think and then it's like 30 years from the end of sith to new hope because how old is luke supposed to be like

Starting point is 00:57:12 20 20 something yeah yeah now did star tours 20 something jefferson starship to the concert venue where they perform like the sky on fire in the holiday special which also my star wars canon is number one star tours number two holiday special number three all that other stuff i mean like that sorry good number three return of the jedi because it has the song that john williams son did the rock song lapd neck and then the rest which they cut off the special i think that begs the question to me which maybe we're going too far out is there are would likely be competing travel space companies true yeah um and that'd be a fun easter egg one of those could be called star ride i was gonna say michael eisner michael eisner famously wanted to call star tour star ride and george lucas was the deciding vote

Starting point is 00:58:02 of like no we like tony's star tours better star ride because he thought people wouldn't understand that it was a ride the dj's stupid star tour sounds boring skip um i also did you guys i didn't know this till last night do you guys know the other name that was floated around? No. This apparently came according to some, well, according to Jim Hill, which I don't, you know, you never know with his information. Yeah. But past the Valen incident. We're keeping the feud going.

Starting point is 00:58:38 But there's other sources that say somewhere, possibly Lucas, somewhere proposed that this ride be called Cosmic Winds. Really? Yeah. possibly lucas somewhere proposed that this ride be called cosmic winds really yeah that is a very 80s disney name i feel like cosmic wind that would have been some was pitched for the movie the bombs or yeah i love the name but it doesn't make any sense it's a really good and if that were like an 80s smooth jazz record that i had i would dig that and listen all the time if it was a dave grueson album i'm in but yeah as this ride but that may i think the competitive if we were ever if we were all to pitch on a star tours movie then yeah i think the competing travel agency is cosmic wins it is it's funny you keep mentioning

Starting point is 00:59:16 like a star tours movie because like oftentimes we've just in conversation you're like i want to make my own stuff in hollywood i want to do this and then i'll be like well what about a star tours movie you're like of course the only property tv show yes hollywood i want to do this and then i'll be like well what about a star tours movie you're like of course the only property yes yes go in on yeah i gotta say and i don't know how much i can say i have a friend who pitched a star tours movie what oh yeah well be careful and i don't know but what can you say i think i can say this it didn't work out okay and maybe oh man i hope i don't know if i'm i heard that disney kind of owns all star wars stuff yeah they don't want to do funny stuff fun stuff yeah yeah that's right i guess that's maybe true with like what you hear about solo or something like that for

Starting point is 01:00:01 sure people know that there's this entire comedy the detour show with like well yeah they rejected an entire but there's a thing where like am i legally allowed to say there's a thing where bug main is han solo that an entire produced series and say somebody send me a letter if i'm not allowed to say this but this is sitting in a can this was made is this the sketch i don't know this was the one that because they that did not make it to air or did it was a youtube thing people we knew were working on for weeks i wrote like this there's this thing and then there's a stupid buddies the yeah that was all done and then they just this is all because this is all in the process before disney bought lucasfilm

Starting point is 01:00:45 so like they were like very open and doing weird stuff because they were close to doing a tv show they were luke lucas always said he wanted to do like that wasn't related to i'm saying this specifically was just that disney had another like idea for the whole thing i'm the reason they didn't do that tv show was too expensive. They had like 50 scripts written or something crazy. Oh, gotcha. I'm just saying the pre-Disney purchase, there was like interesting stuff going on in Star Wars that we will maybe never see or only see drips and drabs of.

Starting point is 01:01:16 There was also, in addition to all of this stuff that never came out, is like Disney, I believe, made the proclamation that there will be no like cutesy like goofy as darth vader toys anymore so they stopped all that stuff because that was everywhere in tomorrowland i have luigi and giuseppe from cars as r2d2 and c3p yes there was a lot of mashup there were the muppet star wars where they were dressed up as the star wars characters and that's crazy because i feel like those were big hits i feel like those were big money also it would feel like it would go the opposite you know what i mean like with

Starting point is 01:01:52 disney acquiring one would assume that they would like i take advantage of their especially with like the stuff the clips and screen grabs coming out from wreck-italph too with like the portal the marvel portal next to the lucasfilm next to star yeah and next to the disney princess port and the disney princesses all hanging out taking selfies and i saw that clip at d23 last year and when that happens on screen they showed that in the the portals or whatever and the audience was i don't know what about this it feels a little unnerving it feels a little blade runnery like the bad way the princesses came on then everyone loved that again i will say i think i've said it before the the everyone was rabid the whole thing uh the whole time and then they showed a nutcracker in the four realms and it was just silent there

Starting point is 01:02:40 oh but i was following the live tweets and i was hooting and hollering i can't wait to see all four of the realms um which will do a series about it um the but i my feeling is like if solo doesn't help prove this like cooling it with the brand because like okay i look this is not going to be the populist opinion but that holiday special is such a blast to watch it's not that things should be like that but i do miss things where like c-3po is running around with eddie murphy or something or isn't like are they on the like what's that earth day special that's your pitch right there yeah he's running around they make it up and you're done you're done I'll say action and cut

Starting point is 01:03:26 and he can edit it and I'll do it aren't they are C-3PO and R2-D2 in that Earth Day special that everyone is in I don't know that like E.T. is in it and a Ghostbuster and oh you're talking not cartoon all-stars to the rest of us

Starting point is 01:03:41 no not that but the live there's a thing where like it's you know murphy brown and a ghostbuster and et uh and doc brown like everybody's in the goosey goosey then nowadays the contracts everything like yeah where all the characters meet willy nilly you don't have to care about the continuity i did something bothers me about adventures continue straddling prequel and sequel but also who cares get them all in there darth vader's in there and it's fun like who i think everyone needs to chill the fuck out about all this ip stuff i agree i think that disney though when they bought lucasfilm they were they made a lot of conservative decisions and they were worried that like things would be silly or prequels were

Starting point is 01:04:25 silly or people didn't like them even though the prequels made a ton of money all three of them so i think they got very nervous about because there's no prequel care barely any prequel characters in those movies and people would go nuts i mean people liked spoiler alert darth maul showing up in a solo but that's about it so i feel like you know they they have to you're right lighten up let's have some fun yeah let's see some of our favorite comedians with c-3po that clip uh of the from i think one of the videos you sent the which i had seen before which is like the star tours tv special basically yeah yeah i mean like i think like seeing c-3po rap is like an example of like something that who wouldn't love this you're out

Starting point is 01:05:14 of your mind let me play it for uh i can't not play it how humiliating i am fluent in over six million forms of communication and here i am doing commercials for outer space. Oh, well. The concept? Almost doesn't sound like Anthony Daniels. My name, OTC 3PO. We're rapping about space, the new place to go. You can eat all you want and you won't gain a pound

Starting point is 01:05:39 because there isn't any weight here like back on the ground. We travel very fast near the speed of light. You can leave in the morning and get home last night. Which... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, now, okay. See, now I'm having logic issues because C-3PO is performing a rap

Starting point is 01:05:56 that would have been performed by the Fat Boys like circa 1983 or something like that. So now is the contemporary music of where in which c-3po and r2d2 are existing is like old school hip-hop just beginning is it advanced all similar music trends were starting to bubble up in whenever star wars is set and then it all got their civilization got wiped out right is star wars is all gone it's a long time ago yeah so we just we just parallel formed the same ideas but also this special exists in a continuity where the the stars of a forgotten sitcom called sidekicks right walk up and say i think the kid says or no the old guy says

Starting point is 01:06:45 C-3PO C-3PO he mispronounced C-3PO good to meet you Hickory Dickory C-3PO his name is Michael Eisner when he's like the opening

Starting point is 01:07:01 ceremony of Star Tours C-3PO C-3PO opening ceremonies or something when he's like the opening ceremony of star tours, he said, be peace. He said, they, they, they, they, they, they,

Starting point is 01:07:05 they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they,

Starting point is 01:07:14 they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, there's so much ancillary content there's the special where this the people from sidekicks show up whatever that is it's the kid's name is ernie reyes jr who plays keno yeah years later ninjas oh yeah that's right yeah yeah uh great in all those movies and then so that's a great special you get to hear that full rap and then two big opening ceremonies in 87 before the ride opens the night before there's something called the interplanetary launch preview party and that is a that's at night and it's mainly about mickey well meeting c-3po and welcoming him into the disney family i gotta say this was awkward oh i thought they got along great best buds right now this is mickey with the like rainbow yeah yeah it is the best mickey yeah it's so good when all the characters are in the space suits and it's kind of eos that is the time and

Starting point is 01:08:18 then he greets him and then a there's a like yamaha mashup of the Star Wars theme into When You Wish Upon a Star, and all the characters march around to it, and they all also are in space suits. So this is the finest live performance that had ever occurred until the next morning when the ribbon cutting happened. And Jason, what would you like to say about the ribbon cutting? I mean, the ribbon cutting. Okay, so one of the few appearances of what the Parks, or called in Parks, face characters.

Starting point is 01:08:50 So, like, Luke and Leia and Han Solo are there. Chewie is also there. R2-D2, C-3PO show up later. None of the face characters talk. They do a very elaborate chore choreographed ballet sequence. Yeah, Han and Leia do ballet. Some hiding, some laser blasting. Han's gun.

Starting point is 01:09:14 Han's blaster is not... Is not Han's blaster. Han's blaster. It looks like they just grabbed it from a gift shop right beforehand. They're like, oh, shoot, we got to give him a gun. All of these opening ceremonies feel like they forgot to plan what it was until the night before.

Starting point is 01:09:30 They worked on this ride like everyone's just working on it down to the wire and they're like oh shit we gotta do something tomorrow. Half of the sound effects sound right and the other half sound totally wrong. And no lightsabers right? Well Mike Leisner has one but it looks

Starting point is 01:09:46 like a clear baseball bat it's not glowing it's not colored and then he just has to hold it for like a minute well because mickey comes out after the interpretive dance and then darth vader doesn't perish but is chased away by fire he's scared of fire like a bear and then he runs off and c-3po comes out and he and r2d2 are supposed to give michael master michael the master george master michael um he hands him he's supposed to hand him scissors but r2d2 lost the scissors much like hooter losing the map and and then mickey comes out to solve this but he doesn't have scissors he like very gingerly marches downstairs from the people mover track and you really feel for the guy in the mickey suit or whoever it is and then comes out and says like it's like like not to worry c3po it's under control and that is not mickey's foot that mickey voice is oh yeah it's like like not to worry c-3po it's under control and that is not mickey's foot that

Starting point is 01:10:46 mickey voice is oh yeah it's a really odd mickey voice and i bring it up for another reason which is there for in all of these in all the many bizarre specials that exist there's a moment that uh my wife and i are super fond of where you get a tour of mickey's house in disney world oh yeah birthday land and he and his house is not like a fun cartoon house it just has like an office and there's that say clearly that same mickey voice that says this great quote when i want to make a call i use the den and then it cuts to just like my dad's den it just has a regular phone, not a fun cartoon phone. Just files. He has, like, leather-bound books.

Starting point is 01:11:28 How much? Why did we have so many long-distance charges last month? Are you talking to Richard again, Middy? You say you weren't in contact. I'm gonna call the phone company. I'll use the den. I'll isolate this moment and put it

Starting point is 01:11:44 somewhere. It's so good. I mean, the best Mickey line in this moment and put it somewhere it's so good i mean the best mickey line in this though uh-huh to you i have it about having to wait we'll just hold this pose for a bit while you photographers get your pictures oh yeah and everyone is just standing rock like still just very still on stage for the assembled press eisner with this bizarre clear lightsaber which by the way mickey saves the day quote unquote but he does so by uh him going back minnie goes and gets the sword and then hands it to mickey who hands it to uh eisner so mickey is just a middle man in this scenario i was also a little bothered by seeing our heroes in their new hope gear hanging out with ewoks yeah that's right yeah leia stopped dressing like that oh and luke

Starting point is 01:12:33 did too well and then after they finish their number and they run off and uh the moss isley cantina band a bunch of other aliens and rogue squadron shows up and appear it appears they get hammered on stage george lucas and michael eister come out they're just hanging out drinking like dry ice yeah yeah like booze drinks not really saying anything the most idly the cantina band's playing their famous song was is this the only time other than club 33 where alcohol was consumed in disneyland perhaps who knows the chemical makeup of those uh space beverages good point and grinda then han and grito were both there together yeah right and they shot at the same time it was all wrong oh disaster eisner i yeah how does michael eisner

Starting point is 01:13:21 say c3po he greets them in a very funny way he says hi there c3po nice to see you and r2d2 like he's greeting like a mid-level executive like coming to pitch him something good to meet you some of the redstone to see you and then he stumbles and calls him threes that's what i have written down we've i've i'm fine talking about this ceremony more than the ride itself if you're listening to this you know the ride but you might not know the ceremony and joe i just take such delight in how uncomfortable george is yeah like just everything existing on stage i mean he's always that's always funny but like on stage in front of everyone like he knows it's wrong too like he might not have even had oversight on this whole thing well

Starting point is 01:14:10 he just witnessed uh darth vader really grab leia like really too aggressively really too aggressively or do we know this is a side note but do we know where they're ever those those characters ever walk around in the first few years? I don't think so. Not that I've seen. Just stormtroopers, probably? Kind of odd that, in general, there's no presence of Luke, Leia, Han ever. Still, right?

Starting point is 01:14:36 Are they ever? Well, they have Rey now. Chewie. You can meet Chewie, Rey, Kylo Ren, and Darth Vader. And then stormtroopers are walking around. Oh, and they have more characters. They have Captain Phasma in Hollywood Studios. Oh, good.

Starting point is 01:14:51 And they have some other, like, maybe like cartoon. There's one Jedi female character. Yeah, from Rebels, I think. So there's other characters. I think Darth Maul might also be in Hollywood Studios, but not that many out here. I think the Maul might also be in Hollywood Studios, but not that many out here. I think the problem they run into sometimes with face characters portrayed on screen by famous actor is the guests aren't...

Starting point is 01:15:14 But the princesses are all human faces. But they're animated. Yeah. There's a change of medium. But that's even more drastic because one's a cartoon and one's a human. That's true. But the feedback of people when it's like when you meet Thor or like Captain America or it seemed like people were the reviews. Seeing Thor and Captain America was so funny because it's some like 18 year old college

Starting point is 01:15:38 student. Right. Yeah. He's trying to like. Yeah, I don't mind doing that. I mean, they find good hunts for thor but like yeah i don't know if all of them go over spider-man has a mask on so that's fine sure um but like i don't know um we've taken a photo together with captain america taking a photo of captain america he

Starting point is 01:15:57 shook her hands for real firm handshake oh yeah he's gotta have that but yeah no they've never i all i'm saying is i feel like it'll be like ray is in the park now and it's it's just a you know 20 year old yeah it's not well they gotta do more acting they could get away with having some fresh-faced kid yeah that's what i wanted as playing i wanted luke and i wanted to meet art carney and b arthur from the holiday sure yeah get them in there they really should have every character in that star wars launch bay now they just have a cut like two at once but you should be able to meet everybody do y'all know while we're on the subject of uh

Starting point is 01:16:34 um other like auxiliary characters y'all know about officer zizek's that sounds familiar but who is officer zizek's officer z zizx you used to meet he was a customs agent who you would meet at the end of the tokyo version oh he was like in a cage looking at all of these monitors and he kind of looks like a weird like space rhino so he's like the patrick warburton character that's on star tours now yes but on the other side you see him at the end and the thing about officer zizek's he is a he is the same mold as sunny eclipse oh right do you know sunny eclipse uh yeah i've died i didn't until recently okay did you see him when you went down? I did, yeah. Oh, sweet. Did you sit and listen to the Space Angels? No, it was more of a walk in and stand for nine minutes.

Starting point is 01:17:32 Sure, standing room only, I'm sure. So you had to. I was trying to find a picture of him, and I only came up with pictures of the philosopher and writer Slavo Zizek. That's not it. Nope, not it. How is Z zizek spelled uh oh it's so many just that will be the boringest thing you ever heard saying all the letters but anyway officer zizek's i guess i think he he's now is listed on wikipedia and indoor express the star

Starting point is 01:18:01 the star wars specific wikipedia's uh so i guess he's key counts as part of the universe and i also have to give a shout out i did in the live show also to roxanne rxn who you is also kind of like a customs agent who speaks in multiple languages who you meet uh at the end of france star tours and i don't you can't find a good video of her but apparently she kind of gushes about rex and has kind of a crush on him and she still exists or does not no she well here's the the awful thing when i was there she was there although her soundtrack was shut off so she was just flapping around to no one and now they put her in a crate like rex and hers is a little creepy like hers has plastic it like you know like a jail like a toy yeah like yeah exactly and she seems to be she looks a little sad and she seems to be reaching

Starting point is 01:18:53 out like trying to get out of the box so i think they screwed up with shoving roxanne in a box and i want to know more about her and i was disappointed she didn't have a soundtrack when i was there. And I'm just, what a great advancement of the narrative of my favorite character, Rex, that he has a girlfriend or maybe a potential girlfriend. Although when he loses his job, I don't know if he's going to be able to hold that down. Will she be in Galaxy's Edge somewhere? I'm going to say no.

Starting point is 01:19:25 No. So shatter my dreams, Kyle. The closest table, like, the closest table is just her. There's just a robot sitting at one of the tables. I'm so proud of him. He's talked about it for years. I'm so proud of him. He finally did it.

Starting point is 01:19:38 Man, that would be great. Yeah. I think Kyle's right. No is the answer. Or, like, the more likely, I feel like, significant other to the DJ is like, yeah, he's still trying to DJ.

Starting point is 01:19:50 Do you go to all of his shows? I try to make it if it's in town. Okay. Have we covered enough of the auxiliary stuff that we should talk? Wait, hang on. We can keep delaying it. Before we get to the ride, let's talk about the line. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:20:11 I think an excellent line. Yeah. You guys know this stuff better than me, probably, but I think it's one of the best cues. If not, I don't know what's better. I'd have to agree. I think maybe Indiana Jones topped it, but when yeah think about i think maybe indiana jones topped it but when you think about what was there at disneyland in 87 what's a better line than that

Starting point is 01:20:32 what like builds the story that as soon as you walk in that room it's c-3po is there you don't have to wait till the ride to see the advertisements for the planets on the big video screen. Taken at a distance, it is funny to think about. This is like a sightseeing tour. This is like Amtrak or an airline. This is a traveling agency in Star Wars. And you wouldn't think that would be as dynamic as it is. Yeah. Well, they do a good...

Starting point is 01:20:59 Yeah, it sounds like a boring thing, but those videos, I think, are really key in creating this kind of almost like 60s uh i mean it is like it's akin to america where uh there wasn't commercial air travel and you couldn't just go wherever you want especially because countries are at war with each other and now the war is over and you can go wherever you want places are friendly and and disney uh if you had wings dream flight like an actual airline uh terminal specifics for a while in common with that also though with those videos and maybe i don't know if we're getting into this but maybe perhaps a problem for some people with the ride and was maybe slightly for me as a child was just this promise of other places yes sure yeah yeah yeah which the new one does solve yes and also the fact if you

Starting point is 01:21:51 are really looking forward to going to endor you do not go to endor yes it doesn't even i feel like they could have ended it still on endor and uh ewoks celebrate your arrival or there's ewoks working at the airport and then on the way out there's like there's an ewok customs agent or something yeah i saw a couple interviews where george lucas from that from the era of when the bride is being introduced where he's saying like the one of the cool parts about it is that it is reprogrammable uh-huh yes and they that was their intent like here reading tony baxter talk about making this they did want to swap the projector in the film like in and out sometimes but it was just too cumbersome and too expensive to do that for what it's four simulators out here six in florida i think okay oh there's more down there i didn't know that yeah i think because that opened in 89 so two years after anaheim uh it was probably a real godsend

Starting point is 01:22:52 when it opened because uh mgm studios had the great movie ride and a three hour two hour long backlot tour when it opened and that was it and then later in the year they got the indiana jones stunt show and then at christmas time i think they got this okay which uh disney please uh never open anything at christmas time again because anytime i've been at the parks at christmas the last few years it's just a crush of people that might be what happens with star wars land in orlando oh yeah that's terrible it's delayed there's also there was before the simulator thing came up it was maybe going to be a space mountain type coaster where you show you got you chose a path the light and the dark and there's a lot of yeah reference to like a black hole a movie a

Starting point is 01:23:41 roller coaster based on the black hole i don't know if that's the same thing or like the simulator was going to be they thought like black hole was going to be their star wars it was going to be a big hit yeah and that did not happen but then uh then oh and maybe also a captain nemo simulator oh right up in our 20 000 leagues episode so they were hovering around the simulator technology and actually new fact to me today, Disney was beaten to the punch on the simulator thing because there was a ride that opened in 1985 at the CN tower, which is the big, um,

Starting point is 01:24:15 space needle type thing in Toronto. And in, in the base of it, there was a ride and I've, I have more videos prepared for today's episode than any other episode uh y'all gotta see this this is this was a much more gentle ride though the way i understand oh maybe i don't know see what you think from the video experience an unbelievably realistic simulation of space travel

Starting point is 01:24:39 tour of the universe i loved it Space port dedicated to tourism and pleasure. Destination Jupiter, the year 2019. It's like flying! Very exciting. See, hear, and feel special effects in person. Board your Canadian Airlines interplanetary shuttle. Oh, wow. This is fantastic.

Starting point is 01:24:58 This is it. At the CN Tower, Toronto, Canada. Tour of the universe. Prepare to be amazed. Wow. Is that Alan Thicke? It could have been. Alan Thic Toronto, Canada. Tour of the universe. Prepare to be amazed. Wow. Is that Alan Thicke? It could have been. Very well could have been.

Starting point is 01:25:11 He composed the music for sure. I believe you made that video. That's what you've been doing all summer. You made that and you're like, look at this thing I found. You outed my fake thing exactly in my wheelhouse yeah it's all the elements canada doesn't exist anymore from the youtube channel retro ontario

Starting point is 01:25:31 shout out to that one of the best youtube channels not to leave out retro vancouver retro newfoundland or uh retro winnipeg uh but how how dope does that thing look and also and like and that it's it's bored i bored your canadian airlines flight to 2019 incredible so perfect there's no on ride video though not that i could find yeah there's a longer interview it seems like with about about it and people who had been on it but it was oh and also uh ride i think directed by doug trumbull who went on to do back to the future wow yeah yeah so all the i wish i could experience this thing but so that was a and it was the same type of vehicle i believe you boarded from the back for some reason because these are like that government level military military grade simulators yeah that's the term and each one

Starting point is 01:26:27 five hundred thousand dollars yeah that's interesting because like disney tony baxter always talks about like you know they were the i don't know if he says first or one of the first but like they because like and in the wake of that there's tons of simulators that get put into shopping malls and it's a bunch of like crappies things but i wonder if they knew about disney and they were trying to beat him to the punch oh maybe or who knows like who knows exactly the chronology of events and they opened an unsafe ride that right crushed many children sure swept that under the rug they're all in the basement of the cn tower um that thing oh god that looks so good but anyway anyway, so that was open. So they're hovering around the simulator technology. And the other thing in the story of Star Tours,

Starting point is 01:27:12 and I think Tony talked about this in our episode, that Lucas was really gung-ho about doing all this, but Eisner didn't want to wait. Lucas wanted to do something else. They both were like well to say if this ride's gonna take forever what can we do in the meantime yeah let's make a movie captain eo uh he wanted tony c he said like get me the biggest music star man and the biggest director and the biggest director who we can get for a reasonable rate because cocaine has ruined

Starting point is 01:27:42 him financially that's You said this weird stuff to Coppola about Tony and I was like, what? I don't know if he shares your grim Coppola view. Oh yeah, what did you say about Coppola again? You trashed Coppola in front of Tony? I said it was probably a boon for Coppola too

Starting point is 01:28:00 because the story of Coppola's career in the 80s is like uptown, uptown, uptown. I mean, the winery is really what saved him. This is public record. And the film Jack, many years later. Oh, yeah. I love that film. I mean, this all happened,

Starting point is 01:28:16 too, because like Ron Miller and George Lucas had winery. They were like buddies. Oh, yeah. They were winery buddies. The Silverado winery. They were like buddies. Oh yeah. The Silverado winery. Yeah, it's good that two rich weirdos liked wine together so they could make

Starting point is 01:28:32 a very easy meet up. Two rich weirdos made wine and then we, all these kids, got to go on the best ride that ever happened. Thanks rich weirdos. And Diane Dizzy Miller there too. It sounds like a surreal experience yeah glad it happened um so that gets us now now we're in the line yeah we're in the line

Starting point is 01:28:53 yes i don't know how much we want to talk about the star speeder being worked on yeah but we hypothetically passed that and then we get to... Also, I don't know... Oh, no, no, no. I was just going to say, I didn't want to get out of order. The People Mover used to go by the Star Speeder, and that's one of the biggest bummers, because as we've talked about many times, that was so cool to go and see it from another angle. For sure.

Starting point is 01:29:18 And he had all those little baggage trays that were floating around a conveyor belt. Yes. And there's a Stormtrooper there for a minute. Was yeah oh would he like go around the line i don't know i think this might have been a in statue yeah yeah oh no kidding okay that was exclusive to anaheim in orlando we had a mini indoor forest and a full-sized atat outside of the show building so it's unique there. Did you guys ever go on the Star Tours in Disneyland, the original?

Starting point is 01:29:49 Yes. Yes. Is it the same as the Disney World version? The film is exactly the same. Just the entrance. And the queue. The queue is the same. You would come out and down into a store yeah even that similar you're up you're a little elevated and you go down a ramp uh and it leads into a store yeah

Starting point is 01:30:12 um the the france one is the same except that there's this crazy space lady there's this like eurovision woman doing the uh the pre-ride um with kind of like wow cool space that is very cool space hair it absolutely is that might just be a thing scott made though yeah it could be can't trust anything the japan building looks very cool i don't want to spoil well we'll see but the building is star tours is in in japan looks very neat anyway kyle what were you saying before i cut you off rudely oh no i mean like i don't know how i don't know if i'm jumping ahead but like if you're walking through the line you pass c-3po and r2 doing bits about the star speeder and star

Starting point is 01:30:57 tours and also like i listen to it's like c-3po riffing on the off the video that's playing so like an end or video playing then c-3po will be like we should i would like to go but i'm not going to do it they think i'm magic i don't know something's good enough for us yeah that's pretty much what the bit is yeah and they do that for i think a couple of videos but then you pass as i you pass admiral akbar and then you make it up up to these g2 droids okay yeah i'm curious your thoughts about the g2 droids well i mean i guess it's common trivia or fun trivia that these are stripped geese from america sings you can see their tails you can see this little like like a little like thing

Starting point is 01:31:45 flapping up and down that's what was in the carousel progress theater which is now star wars launch bay all the all the other critters all went over to critter country to splash mountain my my favorite right which i uh love now right and uh and these are the only two that's uh yeah made it to yeah i like these guys yeah one of them has like uh you know he's listening to a song do you know this uh-huh which i love that song on that little like yeah yeah with kind of a radio filter it's a little muffled is anybody yeah is that song and available anywhere i'd say i listened to it like tonight it's called droid room or droid rooms whoa really yeah wow i saw the title there's also the other thing i did see is that he says in the dialogue somewhere i'm listening to k droid my favorite station this is the latest

Starting point is 01:32:34 hit from danny and the droids the name of the band that might have been an 11th hour oh shit we forgot to record something yeah and then i want to the song is called i want to weld your hand that's so yeah they should have put droid in i want to weld your droid hand do you got the song i think start to the droid rooms is that right yep okay here it is um this is great it's similar again another something Scott made yeah I think this is in

Starting point is 01:33:08 area loops Tomorrowland area loops sometimes maybe it's like those drum machine sounds Scott is in

Starting point is 01:33:18 heaven right now it sounds and it's a little like muffled the quality is a little so it sounds like a Prince demo

Starting point is 01:33:23 it's like there's not a high-quality version available. Doesn't this sound like Neon Telephone or something? Yes, it does. Man. We'll post that. I gotta rip that thing. You know, while we're playing sounds, can I also... We're gonna balance this out one day with Jason's series of just an album-by-album journey

Starting point is 01:33:44 through the They Might Be Giants career. The only music you like. One band. For a time, that was true when I was young. Let me just, just a quick hit because, like, this is just, this is crack. It's so, it's so

Starting point is 01:34:00 perfect. Just the sound. Yes. And then related. perfect just the sound yes and then killed it related those things i was i was going on and on about how much i love those sounds and aaron said how if you got amnesia or something like that would be the key they would like bring you back yeah yeah that would make all the memories come back. Or I would think I was Rex from that point on. That's how we break the Manchurian candidate spell.

Starting point is 01:34:33 We stop you from assassinating a powerful figure. Or activate it. Or activate it. That's when you know it is time to assassinate. Yeah. You have to pitch it up a little. Either way, if you want to send me on some mission controlling my mind, would that sound not a problem?

Starting point is 01:34:44 Sure. Anyway, I got no commentary on all these things. You just like it. You love it. It's so good. Yeah, it is. Like, all the elements are perfect, really. Like, it's hard to even goof on it. Yeah, it kind of is.

Starting point is 01:35:00 That's why I'm glad we had all the opening ceremonies and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Because the ride is just, yeah, it's perfect. I also want to say just like texturally, set design wise, like just all the molding and everything and the way, like the handles on the back of the seats and the room that you, what would you even call this when you're getting hit with just the pure strips of neon light? And then there's those little cut out gratings that you pass through.

Starting point is 01:35:33 They're kind of these like little Stargate passageways. Right by the, right now where you get your glasses is what you're saying, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the very top, basically, before you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They feel like a little like scanning yeah i don't know what you call them mountain has similar stuff they're just it's just the coolest uh everything is so well made and so well done it is an attention to detail that i associate with

Starting point is 01:35:58 disney a magic earring then to a certain extent to lucasfilm as well like those star wars movies that's true yeah a lot of great set design a lot of detail that's what you know makes the prequel still watchable is because all the set design and stuff and character design are cool and like whether or not you think maybe everything is so engaging at least you like you got cool stuff to look at that's where you move all that stuff you go into those worlds in the ride and it's not so bad because you're only in there for five minutes i don't i haven't had any like latter day i'm mad at jj so i like jar jar binks now but i but i i don't like jar jar binks but i like going to the jar jar binks planet in yeah thatman City. That's a really fun, that's almost the most fun

Starting point is 01:36:46 one in the new one. I do think, like, I don't really know. I mean, when I would go with my family as a kid and saw the prequels, I enjoyed them, and then later on, the more I thought about it, I'd see my guys, and I'd say, yeah, they're okay. I do, in terms of like, prequel revisionism,

Starting point is 01:37:02 I do think it's kind of gross how we sort of did george dirty like as a culture at large it's just like he made three more he made he gave people so much with these first three movies and this attraction and his other works and then everyone's just like now fuck you for the prequels yeah i don't i can't imagine like the people versus george lucas kind of people being super proud at this point and they shouldn't be i mean they just announced this week matt smith uh was once dr who's gonna be in the next star wars movie and it's a shame the fans are just gonna straight up murder him no matter what he does he will be crucified on our on the hill

Starting point is 01:37:41 for our sins the hill of gaga where do you land on star wars today do you like with what's going on now do you give a shit do you uh honestly i feel i'm like almost nervous to even like approach subject because like it's the level of controversy that surrounds it yeah i do i think i don't just don't care like i think like yeah uh this notion of like i guess it goes back to what you're talking about with when lucas put out the prequels but i've never like bought into the concept of like you raped my childhood or anything like that or or like um i guess because like it doesn't that doesn't none of these things affect how those things affected me growing up you know it doesn't change anything so yeah nothing is sacred and like

Starting point is 01:38:33 if they made 50 star wars movies my memory of it isn't bad i'm gonna like see less of it i mean like that what i just right now they come out so frequently that it's like I haven't seen Rogue One or Solo. Yeah, yeah. I'll definitely see the new, the follow-up to Last Jedi. Sure. Yeah. But it's just not essential or important to my life. It's like, I kind of like to do other things.

Starting point is 01:39:03 Well, you've got a very famously flexible schedule at Saturday Night Live. It's lots of spare time. Right. There are people who have worked at Saturday Night Live, though, who have made their time for all of their Star Wars stuff. Oh, I'm sure. I think I'm working with one of those right now.

Starting point is 01:39:21 Like Force Friday or whatever, where the toys come out level of nerd are we talking probably i think so yeah yeah like waiting at toys r us at 7 p.m thursday night because they open early to get the toys or like i'm sure like sending an intern to do whatever work uh-huh yeah i can't i mean i'm as i recall sure uh yeah yeah yeah yeah but yeah no i think it's i also like i'm just supportive of people making stuff so sure yeah that's true you mean like in the in terms of like you're not going to be like furious about a movie regardless yeah i don't think so yeah yeah yeah i didn't love like it's like it's like transformers like when those movies came out like i was kind of bothered by

Starting point is 01:40:03 the design of the transformers because they didn't look like the way i remember transformers looking but i just didn't see them it didn't that was it yeah yeah well i think when you feel the obligation this looks awful to me and i'm mad but i have to go and now i saw it and i am mad uh like i'm still a little upset i should have a lot of people said about Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Well, you gotta go. I mean, I know it looks bad, but you gotta go, right? And then I went,

Starting point is 01:40:32 and I was like, I didn't have to go. I should have just not done it. Yeah. And I think that's maybe, I'm gonna try to make that my policy, although I'll do, hey, I'm in for a lot of hate watching.

Starting point is 01:40:43 I do that for sure. Yeah. I also want to say i support lovers and haters i actually i want to leave this like being like neutral yeah oh i think that communicated okay already i was gonna say i think there's something about like i think me being more of a star tours person it's like not a bad place to be because the movies i don't know i i think also the fact that the rides kind of like it's separate from all those wars it's more star than wars yeah the whole thing just by its nature is uh calmer and i'm not gonna

Starting point is 01:41:18 be mad about what they do on any of these planets in these new movies because in my mind i didn't know they were in the movies until that's like yeah i was i really like the first time i finally watched all the stars movies i was like oh hoth that's from the poster from star tours i really went about it backwards so that was like ancillary content for star tours basically films to me are just yeah they're these odd take-homes of the true experience which is the ride i mean as a kid i'd probably be like yeah star tours is definitely if not my favorite one of my favorites because that's the one i went on that's the one where i helped my supporting reps my freshman year in college on my friendster profile star tours was one of my favorite movies. That's great. Nice. Really fun.

Starting point is 01:42:05 Was there, were the rest actual films or were they? Yeah, Billy Madison. Great, great choice. Boondock Saints. You gotta go Boondock.

Starting point is 01:42:19 I was too. I was definitely into Memento. Sure. Oh, entering film school when we're in the same class yeah yeah you're you're you got a rep fight club and uh little donnie darks oh yeah yeah all the classics you gotta um what have we missed besides the right well there's not a lot to say about it, but the nerves that you feel when you're watching that, when you finally get up to the boarding area and there's those announcements,

Starting point is 01:42:52 like it's ready for boarding, that voice kind of freaks me out in a cool way, and the sound, and then the cool lady you get to see with the crazy loop hair. She's a perfect, like, 80s by way of start of uh the original all of that stuff the the original versus the new one uh is a little bit more it's not scary but it's a little like now it's like the cartoon like um character and it's a little bit less it's a little it's it's a lot more cartoonish So like the other stuff is a lot more, I hate to say it, but realistic maybe

Starting point is 01:43:28 and a little bit more scary. It makes it a cool. It's authentically grimy. Yes, exactly. They were kind of dirty and grimy and now they're trying to make them grimy,

Starting point is 01:43:36 but it's not. But yeah, it's still kind of that prequel-y shine to it, which it doesn't make it as cool. It's much cooler, the original, where it's like kind of

Starting point is 01:43:44 a dumpy space travel agency. It's just yeah yeah good well i guess why to me is that better than a cute droid i don't i don't know i think it makes you more it makes you feel like you're what you're gonna get on is is real right it's like and then seeing the connect because that star speeder my toy does not exist this is painted onto a black box but seeing a star speeder being worked on by boring mechanics really sells this is a real thing and a real garage you're going to get into

Starting point is 01:44:15 like a real 747 that's kind of fucked like a little dinged up and like some of the seats don't go back all the way that is the reality of travel it is such a smart thing and i'm sure this is in an interview or maybe i've read it and i'm just forgetting but like it is such a smart thing to show that star speeder in the line because the vehicle you can't see every almost every other ride vehicle you can see what it looks like before you're getting on but this

Starting point is 01:44:37 way you can go oh that's what i'm getting on even though it's obviously not painted exactly like that yeah i was gonna i mean on that tip of reality within that pre-show video you mentioned the maintenance workers what's fun about that they do nothing it's like they're not acting you know what i mean they're just like it's in the new one yeah exactly yeah it's too much too gaggy yeah even today those would be there'd be like comedy yeah exactly it's boring it's like good yeah and like scary with its black and white or night vision or whatever it is and then that that video is oh it's just the perfect yeah it's there's also something that i've always had this thing about like uh mixing film cameras with

Starting point is 01:45:19 with boring video at a different frame rate and seeing chewbacca or that weird creature with the three eyes with camera seeing Star Wars characters shot with like the on the same cameras that they used to film Maury Povich yeah it's so great now that is supposedly like in addition to the alien you're talking about the loading video yeah right yes that is like imagine years and their families humans okay I really like the kid who snaps a photo of Chewbacca. I don't know if, you'd have to, he just has the dumbest, he's like, his face is very funny. I like the smoking alien. Yeah, he's great.

Starting point is 01:45:56 Yeah. Oh yeah, he exists just to smoke. He loves smoking. And then, and then I don't know, I don't know a fan the name of the actress who hosts that, that thing, but she, you know, Allison Janney is the droid I like, but I don't like it as much as the original. Yeah, it's not as good. But she's in the new load-in video.

Starting point is 01:46:13 She's like, you can watch her get on the original. Nice nod. Oh, that's nice. That's a nod to the old. But are we ready to get on? Should we get on? Yeah, let's get on. An hour and 40 minutes in we'll get to the right

Starting point is 01:46:25 because i have i have some things that i love from the ride but compared to current stuff like makes me not makes me mad okay i don't want to well i feel like i mean the faint the most famous and i think tony brought this up in the our show you know rex yelling i've always wanted to do this that is again so endearing like that is so like as a kid like i loved hearing that right before you went in the trees because he's a fan too he's just a fan like we are but that contrasted with like some of the more self-aware does that is in theory self-aware but it reads as very genuine to me in some of the newer movies there's like little bits of self-awareness like isn't there a thing in last jedi where the phone thing doesn't message thing no it doesn't they're in the falcon at one point they're being chased by uh

Starting point is 01:47:19 uh tie fighters and and and they look all look at the camera and say i'm we're gonna end up being the last jedi someone yells are right on the tail and doesn't uh john boyega yell like oh yeah they love doing that shit or it doesn't yell like they love doing that what are you talking about i don't know he says there's like a gag or it's it's like they're always here we go again yeah something like that and i don't know It rubs me as like very constructed. I think it's on Crate. It's when maybe when they show up on Crate. Well, of course it's not good.

Starting point is 01:47:53 It's in a movie and it's not in the ride. And the ride is better than all of the movies. Yes, that much is true. We'll have to find whatever you're talking about and post it on the Twitter. I was told when I was at, there was a when i had this my special day with jeff at disney which is what i'll refer to it from now on and there was a guide there he said that ryan johnson took some of the design from the ride video which like the crystals and stuff and put it in last jedi that it was inspired from star tours like the old the the comments yes yeah yes whoa that's cool and that makes it because the my favorite sequence

Starting point is 01:48:32 of last jedi i'd say is that crystal player and the the red salt and everything um that sequence that part is so well done keep going out of order but like that it feels i don't know they sold that really well you feel those impacts great the excellent sound breaking sound yeah i love the comments even though if you watch it it feels kind of tepid and slow moving through there similar to like the the back to the future ice age stuff but they the way you the way it felt when it was actually in motion was so cool um odd concept that you get lost within a comet sure um but he but think about yeah i think you're right on this thing of r2d2 like rex nails it going through that if you're gonna not his fault he ended up in a comet yeah but he uh perfectly

Starting point is 01:49:19 they're both my friends like i'm not one to go like oh this fictional character is my friend but i think like r2 uh rex and spider-man in the spider-man ride i go oh it's my friend sure also i would say rex too like he doesn't crash the star speeder he gets through like rex is like sully and he gets everyone safely on the other side and you're on on the other side, a Sully like trial. He probably ends up in a trial where they play a simulation of what happened over and over again. That's the Star Tours movie. Wrong way.

Starting point is 01:49:53 Breaks. Breaks. There's a Sully like movie, which is Star Tours. Oh, that's the movie. That's the movie. That's great.

Starting point is 01:50:00 And most of it is just him before and after and taking a jog and he's nervous. Well, it's just shot for shot. Shot and taking a jog and he's nervous. Yep. Well, it's just shot for shot. Shot for shot remake of Sully with Rex. Man, yeah. I mean, you might need a little more conflict. What about some flight inspiration? He has a drinking problem?

Starting point is 01:50:15 Flight that everyone has seen. Is that the twist in it? I don't really remember. I've like half watched it. I just remember the plane being upside down at one point. You less than half watch it if you don't remember that he had a drinking problem the primary upside down and john goodman just going like yeah like john goodman having a real funny voice you're thinking of you half watched the trailer i may have i may have been doing this King Ralph. You know what? That part would put you in the wrong place.

Starting point is 01:50:48 Great at piano. What else? I don't know. Oh, we haven't talked about... Well, let's go back into order. He goes... You stop, you're going the wrong way. Break space. This part also...

Starting point is 01:51:02 Again, that grimy garage. It's so just functional and not a fun star wars place it is not there's not a bunch of droids zipping around it's just like weird misery in there but i love that and uh also a lucas request because lucas himself a giant disneyland fan and he thought uh why there's all these places in disneyland that say authorized personnel only and you always wonder what's back there let's for the first time in a ride go back there let's let's go to one of those odd zones and it's nothing weird's going it's just like oddly uh functional and but i now i think it's really a trope of rides and especially universal rides that uh you know it's supposed

Starting point is 01:51:46 to be this pleasant thing but then something bad happens but i don't know that that was really going on before star tours and i think lucas himself uh invented it's interesting well do we know if the simulator uh in 1985 the trip to jupiter went smoothly or oh i have to figure that out but yeah i didn't know this is kind of where the where it start this starts this trope starts kind of even though it's become mostly the trope for so many rides after it but yeah the next time you're mean to lucas and make fun of his uh his appearance remember he thought of the coolest ride thing yeah the normal is there anything before this because all the pirates everything on a mansion it's just you're you're doing what you went in there to do exactly there's no wrong turn big thunder mountain you know you're going on a wild ride right tell you

Starting point is 01:52:33 that matterhorn you're on a bobsled this is i think the beginning of the ride went the wrong way and the wrong thing happened and it's like happening to you and universal would use it much more than disney would in the years after this um so kudos to george stole it stole it from george wow everybody stole from george uh also the fact that rex in general came out of lucas liking the jungle cruise and thinking what's our equivalent of the of the jungle so he really got to like this maybe is the first example of a ride being made by a by a fan like a fan of the property getting to do his own thing with it ironically a thing so that happened to lucas uh-huh in his beloved world so not as like cameron maybe not as big of a disney parks fan james cameron i bet he's not probably not

Starting point is 01:53:23 you would imagine but maybe no way to know there's no way to know it seemed like tom fitzgerald on their imagineer who worked on both versions right because you sent a video of yeah him being interviewed for the new version and tony talks about him working on the original version too seemed like to be a big star wars fan yeah and uh um yeah it seems like he brought a lot of the cool innovations to it um what i is this it's less with the ride almost what's your favorite part of the ride kyle uh see i mean i well i think we're skipping over the reveal too like the shield that covers that comes up and down i guess it's gonna be a breezy ride let's just lower the i don't know this is not like necessarily a favorite part of the ride but just like

Starting point is 01:54:11 stepping out of like just like the notion i guess you're talking about like how grimy it is and i might be wrong but like these are all i feel like as a kid i was fully immersed in it and then like as a college like film student i experienced it in a different way and i saw it from like a filmmaker's perspective and it's like we are traveling through miniatures is that accurate mostly yeah miniatures yeah which is pretty sick like sure yeah i think uh i would love i would kill to like see any of those spaces in reality like if those models are still around somewhere. Cause that's,

Starting point is 01:54:46 Oh, those pictures are always crazy. Like I've seen the pictures of the original death star models and they're like these, I don't know what the scale is, but it's, they're bigger than you think they would be, but they,

Starting point is 01:54:55 cause they have to be, cause there's a camera that has to go through or like the ghost buster. Have you ever seen those ghostbusters pictures with the guy in the state puff costume and then the full like city built. Sure. Like they're crazy. How detailed that they have to be from like marketing stuff i remember this picture a lot as a kid this is like clearly a miniature oh oh yeah yeah they're manipulating but it looks great i mean this this was the time when also i think um from a ride the the use of the of the tv with r2 and the the pilots going back and forth that was really cool is yeah it was really cool so hard back then too so it's incredible they were able to do it every like six minutes every day

Starting point is 01:55:44 it's one of the and it's a cool thing they they used also in back to the future the ride like the the multiple screens yeah so neat and i remember like uh uh i remember thinking like i bet those i i bet and i hope the the the new actors boyega and oscar isaac and stuff when they got to like film their new parts and like if i if it were me knowing like this is gonna be on the little screen and star tours like that's really where you you made it you're part of the universe finally but that's my uh perspective yeah and you get your you get your cool x-wing dude that guy's great you get your i mean at the very end you get that guy uh behind the fuel truck who like ducks when the who like back in the day i remember the rumor was that that was like george lucas i think

Starting point is 01:56:33 if i'm thinking of the right guy oh yeah you know what you're saying right right yeah yeah that guy that's what everybody thought yeah i'm not sure who it is i don't think it is he was another lucas film guy um obviously you go to the death star if you remember that part oh i think yeah yeah I'm not sure who it is. I don't think it is. I think he was another Lucasfilm guy. Obviously, you go to the Death Star, if you remember that part. Oh, I think so. Yeah, yeah. The Trench Run is great. Although, I have an issue with... So, here's my issue with that.

Starting point is 01:56:53 Reading about it made it worse. Like, reading about the justifications that the Lucas people... Story-wise, yeah. Story-wise. Because it's like, well, this all takes place after return of the jedi and this is actually death star 3 which may have been a fake death star and actually a fade out and i'm like just shut up i don't care i actively do not care i just think it's cool to go on the death star run well and i think i think it's possible that in the discussions that lucas

Starting point is 01:57:20 was a person he said well or like we I think he wanted to be timeline consistent. And he said, let's have the Death Star. If the Death Star happened, why would we do that again? And I think Tony was one of the parties who said, yeah, but think about the feel over function. People are going to want to go through that tunnel. He talks about what people expect from an experience that has an IP ip on it and it's like well what would people want to do so i guess he was probably being like well there's two movies where there's death star runs people must want to do that yeah um but i must say yeah this is the third death star we could

Starting point is 01:57:59 add a different ending let's be honest make a different uh big ship well also is it unfinished well yeah but it's always been unfinished it's never been there's never honest make a different uh big ship well also is it unfinished well yeah but it's always been unfinished it's never been fun there's never been like a complete finished death star really but the first one looks pretty complete new hope but they're just pretty but they're just turning it on and new sorry uh visually unfinished like in return of the jedi the death star looks different there's like movie stuff i don't know what you're talking okay yeah um not part of the canon i was just assumed it was the return of the jedi uh run it was the return of the jedi death star they got there right as return of the jedi was happening

Starting point is 01:58:36 as a kid you were assuming that it was that one yeah i always just but there's but for sure and it's officially that they've started a third one. It's officially after the war has ended. Yeah. So it doesn't make any sense. They're building the Spaceballs one. Well, they're trying to rationalize the idea that the galaxy is somewhat at peace, and that's why we can kind of freely travel through it. Yes.

Starting point is 01:59:00 So it has to be after the second Death Star. It has to be. Yeah. But it's still like, or maybe it didn't blow up i guess maybe it all maybe all the pieces reformed perfectly post-explosion like some black hole sucked them all perfectly back together i think though i mean they don't there's a lot of questions when you see force awakens how all of a sudden the first order is just there and they're so powerful so maybe this kind of bridges that in a better way. Like the conflict really didn't stop.

Starting point is 01:59:29 This might take place. They built a Death Star every two years. Right. And they blew it up. So there's been like 50 Death Stars up until the giant one. They're not fixing the problems with this Death Star. Yeah, same one.

Starting point is 01:59:43 Oh, God. And then Starkiller Base is the last one let's just get like two more security guards watching making sure no x-wings are flying in here otherwise design's perfect it's not a design problem yeah um there's something there's something about also i don't want to be this guy who's knocking the new one as opposed to the old one but because i there's a lot that i like in the in the new one but i don't love all of the endings in adventures continue and i think there's something to me about the cleanliness of you're in the death star you know what this is and you do like the ultimate star wars thing and i think the new some of the

Starting point is 02:00:26 new endings in adventures continue have a lot of uh the phrase i wrote down prequally effluvia like i where i don't know what planet this is and it's not like a major event from one of the films like i understand being on the jar jar planet or being in the pod race more than we're in a this city with a lot of traffic and i think well that's coruscant okay uh and that's a planet from star wars intergalactic government but either way you know what i mean like it's not like you're not in a i don't know you're made up a primary sequence of yeah you wanted a big star tours one ends with the ending of star wars and star tours two has you go to some more places there are a couple low-key endings for the new star tours and i agree with what you're saying there's a couple times i think coruscant is the one you're

Starting point is 02:01:17 talking about where you just kind of slide on that ramp and they're like yeah we didn't die see you later yeah like that's all it is and it's not a fun because i would say that there's first well this should be safe for the next one but i'll say it anyway i went on we went on a couple days ago and the end was the naboo one where you're underwater which i think is one of the best ones where you get put in that thing's mouth absolutely and then you slide into the whatever the hanger thing and the window breaks yeah that's which is really great and there's a funny little gag there i didn't know this the window didn't break this time oh whoa and i was blown away because i've been on this i've been in that scenario like five ten times who knows and it always breaks i went on it and if you jason you do you know what i'm talking about yeah you've seen this and then the point

Starting point is 02:02:03 that usually goes through your window snapped off instead of the window breaking and then somebody threw paint at the window and i didn't know that existed so that's one of the good ones but i know what you're saying there's a couple things can sort of low-key versions of this it doesn't feel like you've really finished this big like oh my god it just feels like a whimper it's just a harder like thing to wrap your head around like someone on the ship is a rebel spy and you need to get them to a secret hideout it's a lot of plot yz play it's a lot of plot yeah a lot more plotty is the new one the old one is very clean it's very simple yeah although i'm curious kyle you ever been the spy uh yeah and it was remarkable i don't know if you got if it if it means anything to you guys

Starting point is 02:02:48 but there was for me like a lot of build-up in terms of like will this ever happen to me and so when it did finally happen i was psyched yeah yeah i would be excited you guys have not i've not i've been twice you've been twice oh snow one in orlando one in hollywood i know that we're like this is obvious we're talking about the other ride here yeah i know have you developed any do you have any ideas as to the picking process for the rebel spy i know i do know i know a couple things too possibly but i was told on my special day with jeff um by the guide that one of the this isn't foolproof but a lot of people fumble around very like during the pre part of the ride when you're putting your seat belt on putting stuff

Starting point is 02:03:30 under that one of the things you can do is immediately sit down kind of look straight ahead and don't fumble with stuff because they're looking to get a clear photo of you it happens before it happens before it doesn't happen right at that moment it happens before i think the ride starts so it's not you might know even more insight on this yeah i mean i've heard i think the back two rows are are possible this could be inaccurate or like you want to land yourself there and i i didn't i haven't heard that specifically but i naturally like just try to look as bored as possible because like seemingly all the rebel spies they choose are that yes and it worked and

Starting point is 02:04:11 when i told my friend to do it it worked for him too wow yeah like maybe it's so yeah maybe it's like kind of a straight ahead like bored because i kind of want everybody to go like look at that face or whatever like this like person that's not that enthused so yeah that makes that makes sense so if you can see a clear shot of the face and the face is like well then we have to put it out there if you do it if you uh get if you do it based off this tip and you are the spot i was gonna say send a picture but that's like it's kind of hard you don't want your phone to fly into the front of the but just let us know and you are the spy. I was going to say send a picture, but that's impossible. It's kind of hard. You could do it. You don't want your phone to fly into the front of the... But just let us know.

Starting point is 02:04:50 Does it work? Hashtag I'm the spy. So yeah, get in there, get situated real quick, and then probably don't go crazy with the dopey look on your face, but make it very neutral. Make it a very kind of neutral face.

Starting point is 02:05:02 Like the maintenance guys in the original Star Tours. Exactly. Yeah. Play it real. Play it real. Also, neutral face. Like the maintenance guys in the original Star Tours. Exactly. Yeah. Play it real. Play it real. Also, do have to say, story-wise, it kind of lacks operational security to tell a flight full of civilians

Starting point is 02:05:14 who the undercover operative is. That's a good point. Yeah, they shouldn't do that. That's like when Dick Cheney outed Valerie Plame. Yeah. Very. How about that material? How about that political material? I enjoyed it.

Starting point is 02:05:30 Okay. Well, what else? You know, I also like the other side. I like when the gate goes up and Rex is still pleading his case. Yes, that's fun. He's still getting used to his programming. He's so sympathetic there. And I'm more sympathetic for him now

Starting point is 02:05:45 realizing that half of it is on r2 um again i just don't believe that they fired r2 i think r2 had fame coming into it and that they had to pin the blame on somebody somebody had to be a fall guy right yeah it was rex yeah uh um and they were sketched out by his DJing. So maybe he just quit. Or maybe he just got put on leave and then the company folded. Either way, I'm fine with all these different ones. Maybe he got a much better DJing job that pays way better. And he and Roxanne are still together to this day. And they are rich and very happy.

Starting point is 02:06:22 Well, I think we'll be able to tell this when they let us know how much after Star Tours is Galaxy's Edge and Batuu and Black Spire Outpost. What's Black Spire Outpost? That's the name of the place itself. That's the name of the town. It's named all of these things? Yeah, so Star Wars Galaxy's Edge is just the general area. The planet you're on is Batuu, and the name of the little town is Black Spire Outpost. Okay.

Starting point is 02:06:53 So there, those are the names you need to know. So it's like a city within a county within a state. Yeah. And within a country called Star Wars Galaxy's Edge. Uh-huh, and everyone's just going to call it Star Wars Land. Yeah, as they should yeah better um i'm getting used to galaxy's edge but uh still it's clunky uh kyle you excited about about star wars any hopes you have first for uh star wars land or galaxy's edge as fringe people call it i'm uh i'm just generally curious i think like i imagine

Starting point is 02:07:26 most people are nervous about how it'll affect moving around the parks uh yeah yep might be good to well are you gonna stay away from it for a while or do you or do you go in as soon as it's open it's not something that i'm like i have you're not thinking about it every day i have thought about star tours too and i before it came out like and i was there i don't know if you guys like this is like the first ride i remember where like maybe i just wasn't paying attention where there was like a celebration of the star wars star tours ending you know what i mean like the last flight to end or oh yeah and we like blew it up yeah yeah through a thermal detonator and blew the building up and they set off pyro whoa in florida in

Starting point is 02:08:11 florida and well and here tony baxter came on board and said goodbye he like he set up the final flight and says the force be with you because i won't be and then he walks out because tony also ran he like operated the ride for the first few months it was open is that right in in a flight suit yeah oh i didn't know that yeah it's in that e-ticket magazine i have yeah he just for fun he just was like curious about the operation of it and wanted to help so he was just like a shift leader wow isn't that crazy that is crazy cool guy um but anyway yeah but you yeah how was that transition for you uh well so like we made it i definitely made i went to go on like one of the last i don't know probably the last week that star tours was because do they not i

Starting point is 02:08:58 feel like they didn't advertise as much this was only like what 10 years like eight years ago yeah 2010 i think it was i don't know like but up to that point how many times the parks would advertise like when a ride was closing but this was a time where people were aware that this was happening yeah and i think now they do it a little more like last chance on uh yeah i saw that like they're doing it for the jurassic park ride yeah which is gonna be almost the same ride i think but that's why i don't know whether they're making a big deal i was psych like to see what the second star tours would be because I was so into this original yeah carnation would you what'd you think

Starting point is 02:09:32 were you disappointed were you nervous it wasn't gonna be not the same I gotta say I was always nervous when I like the very first footage I think that you saw was the pod racing footage yeah and i don't know i guess just like seeing like how kind of digital it looked and like it felt it looked a little bit like a video game to me yes that made me nervous yeah and that'll happen on rides here and there still that the footage you see on tv looks weird and you're put off and when you're there in person witnessing however it's projected and how it's meant to be shown it's much better and i like i do definitely enjoy the ride yeah yeah yeah there were rumors for a long time that it was

Starting point is 02:10:15 gonna be all pod race and that made me very nervous yeah i don't mind it being one step of it but it also wouldn't make sense that it's entirely pod race so that's that's good yeah the um i don't know i don't know if this was initially too for the first incarnation but then i know for sure the second incarnation the blue sky was like it would like have windows and you could see stuff on the sides like you'd see stuff whizzing by on the sides as well i'm not sure i'm assuming that would be something they would try to think of it the first time around but i remember there was like a blue sky version like where the ceiling would open up and you would see something like up like up to like sky or whatever like if you were on tatooine but that would suck

Starting point is 02:10:54 you out of the shit yeah so you'd have to be pod racing on tatooine or be on coruscant or be on kashyyyk or be on you couldn't be underwater i don't know these words of which you speak uh they're very interesting all to all of these places you should know the last one i really don't know what did i say naboo kashif okay sheik kashibaka's homework yeah it's when the two the wookies are on the front sliding down it's the chewy planet it's a chewy planet you're getting the name wrong we didn't really touch on this i i always thought the art uh advertising for star tours was just great yeah the artwork you may went away pull it back uh oh i know what you're talking about we're selling some of that stuff a bunch of it at the van

Starting point is 02:11:37 eden gallery i was trying to do a little but it man it was all yeah i had like a star tours poster growing up and i have i've like since collected like the clothing, the paraphernalia. Do you have multiple? Do you have a bunch of, uh, yeah, man,

Starting point is 02:11:51 I can send you a, yeah, yeah. I got, I got pics of me and my Star Tours gear on the, on the last ride. Oh, sure.

Starting point is 02:11:58 Yeah. We love some action figure wise. Let's get the full lineup of, uh, wardrobe. We've spoken and talked so much, but I didn't't this last ride i went on incidentally was like the second time i went with beck and nick who from the sketch group

Starting point is 02:12:15 i was i'm in called good neighbor and our friend clay and uh it was like the second time i took uh mushrooms in my life. Wow. And so like that played a part too. How did that go? Was that horrifying? Which way did that tilt it? Oh, yeah. I was going to say, I would hate that.

Starting point is 02:12:33 Rex, I hate to attack you. No, no, Star Tours was chill. Like Star Tours was like the first ride we went on. They hit like right as I got into the park. And the most like I could kind of feel it when like we went to one of the like bathrooms and like just dealing with all these people and hearing the sounds of like flushing and like uh hand dryers go it was like i was in a factory and then like getting out of there and then just having to weave through people felt like a video game but star tours was great it was actually it was

Starting point is 02:13:10 actually then i went on then i went and i went into captain eo where like i had oh it was exciting like i they show they had that pre-show video of like the behind the scenes yeah which was i loved which was like that music that thing it felt like it like feels like they're like coked out it's like oh yeah you know what i mean yeah there's an intensity exactly but then like then watching captain eo which i love like i just had this experience where like uh i was a struggling comedian and actor and like it's obviously difficult a lot for a lot of us to like pay the bills and it was one of those moments where i'm like watching this thing feeling like fuck i'm never gonna be able to do this i don't know i just had a very like

Starting point is 02:13:56 self-aware moment and that kind of fully brought me to a negative place you thought you wouldn't be part of a production as a brand it's just like oh man if i was on the set of captain neo i'd be too nervous steve pull this off you know i just like had a lot of kind of like self-doubt and i didn't get to enjoy the movie because like i saw it as like a film production uh-huh rather than like i have that when i would get if i get a little bit high i do have that where I see through the narrative is gone to me, and I can feel the energy of the production, good or bad, and usually bad. That's exactly what it was. When we were at Desert Trip, and I was watching Paul McCartney from The Pit,

Starting point is 02:14:38 and I was just like, old sack of bones, pulling himself to the piano one more time. I've seen him in a more exciting setting before and now I feel like oh I've seen through the magic trick and I can see he's sick of doing this it's the same pattern

Starting point is 02:14:50 he does before here we go for John this is all the girls and all the girls gentlemen if it makes you feel any better the opposite

Starting point is 02:15:00 where you just get really invested in the reality of like oh Moana's got her family i wish i felt like that no he loved no no like i just committed to i don't see the i don't see the divide just like fully enmesh in the story yeah uh is sometimes good but then sometimes like very stressful if it's like uh so it's all bad yeah everything's like succession or something real

Starting point is 02:15:25 bad but that's kind of i got badder better i got badder sure they gave me some batter because i could tell uh no it was i mean like i hope some i was looked out for and over the big break like midway through the day we went to like the uva cafe and drank some beers and i was just like that's i felt so good like that was what it took like wait where the uva it's the middle oh the middle i've never eaten at the i've never been to the uva bowl that's scott's favorite place trio of flatbreads yes for sure call me the chorizo street fries or something restaurant it's connected to or like yeah i don't like it as much you don't like it i like the casual i feel like you and me i feel like they typically have a good soundtrack too it'll i don't know if you've ever caught this but it'll

Starting point is 02:16:13 be like i can't play some music it'll be like 80s it'll be like cool in the gang or something or like earthland fire-esque it'll be like oh sure like shaka or something yeah exactly we're gonna have to do an Uwe episode. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Come back. That sounds great. I want the full Uwe experience.

Starting point is 02:16:31 Dude, I always get a pina colada there. That place is fucking tight. Sounds great. I am so in for Uwe. Would you have protested if that was part of... The hotel's not happening anymore, but if they were going to do the hotel and they knocked down Uwe, would that be something you would like sign a petition for uh to keep uva yeah you know progress is progress all right fair enough but you know who knows how i would feel

Starting point is 02:16:53 if it really got reality with her yeah hold on i don't want to predict that by the time this episode comes out the hotel will be resolved but they're gonna fix the hotel that hotel no fucking result but but somebody just hold on a second here this is i don't want to get with it we're already two hours and 17 minutes longest episode territory someone just posted someone just posted on our facebook uh a job listing for earl of sandwich employee whoa so disney is not thinking that that what you're talking about is going to be resolved. They're about to reopen Earl of Sandwich. And who knows about ESPN's on a Rainforest Cafe. Could they come back?

Starting point is 02:17:29 They might be coming back. That would be wild. I think this is going to be resolved within a few months. Exiles and then brought. Maybe that's like a kind of. I don't know. That's like to be your move. Your move now, Anaheim.

Starting point is 02:17:42 We're bringing back Earl. Yeah, that could be a Do you think this is a negotiating tag? Oh, so they're going to be like, oh, well, they're going to open their own sandwich. I guess they're not going to, please build a hotel, Disney. Please build a hotel. And they're going to be like, all right, fine. And then they fire those poor people they hired.

Starting point is 02:17:58 I guess they would do that. They're very cruel. No, I don't think they ever hire it. I think it's a red herring. I think it's a fake out this is all this is all more exciting than the star wars films to me yeah eternal polita anaheim v disneyland well since we are getting into the longest one i had a feeling i mean there's a ton here thanks for hanging for so long but anyway it's gone it's gone. We don't even know how to do a plus it up. I don't know.

Starting point is 02:18:27 Can I, the one thing I feel like we're not touching upon, I mean, it's not fair to say that, but like this is like also the prime example, or I had not experienced this prior to this ride, of like the dropping off into the gift shop, like the exit through the gift shop. Oh, yeah. Interesting.

Starting point is 02:18:43 Is it the, I mean mean if it's not the first it's a like as opposed to you go buy a merchandise cart it is definitely that you were dumped into a specific hard to get out of it's kind of yeah disneyland specifically because there's not really a gift shop haunted mansion pirates like you can go to new orleans square but yeah immediately there i think for disneyland especially because like in orlando pirates kind of opens you opens right into the gift shop for pirates oh sure but i bet in disney but it's certainly a i just remember like as a child it got me pumped oh yeah like you leave the like star wars theme is playing and then like all of a sudden like there's all the star wars that. And I love that ramp. I love just that boring post-movie

Starting point is 02:19:26 theater and those posters and the Star Trader itself continues to have... I mean, that's where I got EO shirts when EO was back. And kids can build their own lightsaber. I feel like that store has been active and vital

Starting point is 02:19:41 ever since it opened up. Good job with Star Trader star trader was always a big one for me as a kid and it's huge and yeah i feel like it was the only place you could really find star wars stuff at a certain point and then they started selling it at merchant of venus and magic kingdom uh when alien encounter was still open and i was i was kind of like oh cool more star wars stuff but also i was like it's taken away from Alien Encounter merch. So I don't know how I feel about this. And it's also the battle of original property versus IP.

Starting point is 02:20:13 So played out on a very microscopic scale. Sure. But one thing everybody can agree on, and I don't know when this went up or if it was during Star Tours or not, but Star Trader uh neon tumbling through space mickeys man oh man that is my disneyland that's my tomorrowland that i will throw a fit if it's ever gone i love that thing the zero gravity mickey yeah yeah yeah were i to shroom i would just sit and stare at that for a while how about

Starting point is 02:20:47 this what if that was at the van ethan gallery the actual the actual thing that might be a life savings if you had like say like 10 million in the bank which is a lot of money but you shouldn't spend a million of it on a thing at disney no how much how much would you spend for that if i got a lot to readjust if i have 10 million dollars um uh uh that's six wipe it all out uh that makes me a little bit all right six million um pretty good great done deal i don't know where i'll put it i don't think i don't think i i don't think a house has a lot of like neon hookups i think a glass artist could fabricate one for you for a tenth of them well that's the case for only six hundred thousand dollars i think if you have a house though it's gonna be a neon room in the house wouldn't you think yes i look if i to have this neon room if i have to go live in you know uh deep baker's field yeah

Starting point is 02:21:48 that's how this has to play out fine but yes and i will recreate the entire boom beam city only open for two days laser tag for which i still have all of the props that'll be my uh what you're like the like the make E. Cheese, the Rockafire. Rockafire Explosion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'll have a Rockafire, of course, also. And a Chuck Band. What are they called?

Starting point is 02:22:16 Chuck E. Oh, Munch's Make Believe Band? The Make Believe Band. Yeah. I'll have a Make Believe Band as well. I'm going to need a lot of, this is less of a home than a compound yeah uh i'll have to buy the silver or the skywalker vineyards something like a childish play like a neverland ranch type place yeah absolutely skycare neverland ranch too i should buy the ranch you should buy

Starting point is 02:22:39 the ranch hey let's all go in on the ranch i'll take care of it come visit me it's only four and a half hours away sure by helicopter uh nothing weird's going on it's totally cool there no nothing weird is going on at all it's a thing you say when nothing very normal very regular would you buy if you could buy if you could buy an item in any disneyland item disney theme park item, Kyle? What are you getting? I don't have an answer prepared. That's a heavy question, certainly. How about something from Star Tours? If you could remove an item from Star Tours, any era.

Starting point is 02:23:21 I don't know. Some of the robots. Sure. Good answer. Two geese. Two geese robots just fighting in your living room. You just plug them in to argue in your living room.

Starting point is 02:23:30 Yeah. Certainly the, the G2 with the droids room boom box. Oh man. And there's just like a door in a little room

Starting point is 02:23:40 in the house that that's just going all day. Power being wasted. But anytime you wanted to open it up and get a little hey i think i know you those are the bits that that droid is doing by the way he's just like roasting people that walk past him yeah and just a lot of like i really like working here yeah oh yeah and then like this yeah then you'll hear on the big speaker like there seems to be an issue on sector five.

Starting point is 02:24:06 The droid is not working accurate or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Shut it. Much like an airport. Much like a put-upon airport employee. Mm-hmm. That's accurate. Yep.

Starting point is 02:24:17 All right. Well, get some droids. Somebody get Kyle some droids. And Kyle Mooney you survived Podcast the ride One of our one of the longest Episodes and I thank you for But of course there's no other way This is an epic I'm sure there are other ways

Starting point is 02:24:34 To do this A concise 15 minute version Time has to be wasted Yeah Planets had to be listed Officer Zizek Had to get a full 15 minutes But yeah thanks for coming

Starting point is 02:24:51 And sharing your memories Anything you'd like to Promote or send people to Anybody listening Yeah well you could see This movie we referenced earlier Brigsby Bears Brigsby Bear is on Amazon and iTunes.

Starting point is 02:25:08 So great. That's pretty much it. Catch me on Saturday Night Live. I do wish that is how the show was. I do wish. Have you pitched to Daryl Hammond. What if you said it like this tonight? I do think you get the best Daryl Hammond's pronunciation.

Starting point is 02:25:35 You get a real strong Kyle Mooney. Yeah, that's nice to hear. I don't even pay. You're probably busy during the... Jacking off. Everyone has their process, as long as it's in private and the door is locked. It's the United Zen State. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 02:25:53 Well, Kyle, thanks for being here. Everybody else, check out Podcast the Ride on Twitter, on Instagram. Email us at podcasttheride at gmail. Check us out next week. We've got some fun announcements and some big stuff's coming down the pike. Oh, yeah. Podcast the Ride

Starting point is 02:26:08 world. So, if y'all aren't exhausted by this one, check us out next time. We are going to do our best to exhaust you this month. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 02:26:16 We certainly are. Oh, yeah. If you're exhausted now, wait until in a few weeks. Teaser. All right, folks. I'm sure we'll do better next time. We're still getting used to our programming.

Podcast: The Ride - Star Tours with Kyle Mooney

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