Podcast: The Ride - Stunt Show Showdown 2

Episode Date: May 22, 2020

A sequel to one of our earliest episodes, we each picked an oddball Stunt Show to talk about. And this one goes international! Mr. Sheridan's Curbside Pie Pickup available at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever. Dog. Warning, the following podcast contains a thorough dissection of three theme park stunt shows. One will make you say, what a feeling. One is possibly too old for this shit. And one stands in the darkness, afraid to step into the light. Hey, those are great hints. It's Podcast the Ride.

Welcome to Podcast the Ride, the theme park podcast whose famous stunts aren't physical, but actually weeks-long themed shows about outdoor shopping malls. My name is Mike Carlson. Joining me as always, Jason Sheridan. Yeah, that's accurate. That's a good assessment. I would say so. I would like to do more physical stunts, but there really doesn't seem to be an opportunity unless we're doing some sort of live show. So I guess if we do more live shows, I would not mind being set on fire. Let me bring Scott Garner in here as always as well to weigh in on being set on fire. Well, the demonstrations make it seem pretty simple as long as you got a good team on your side.

Yeah, the team is very important from what i understand about stunt shows i'm not saying i need to do the full like man on fire thing where he like lurches forward and then falls into the water maybe just sort of like my arm set on fire where they put something thick around your arm maybe like a wrap and then they set that on fire and then a person comes with a fire extinguisher and puts it out real quick that's more what i'm saying no max some no max involved i believe that's the uh you know stuff that doesn't catch on fire that protects you oh i didn't i i yeah i guess yeah please no max please there's a gel there's a gel as well um which we can just do on our own, right?

We can just, we just buy some no-mix and like watch a YouTube tutorial or two and then we don't need like a fire marshal

around. Yeah, I think that's probably okay. I think next time we Sure, try it at home. I would like to pledge next time we do a live show

whenever this social distancing is over there will at least be one stunt in the show i don't know what it is i'm not gonna say it's fire i'm just gonna say i want a stunt some kind of stunt in the show so that's my okay well so i mean most of the stuff most of the shows that we're going to talk about today have a warning about only trained

professionals should do this um do we consider ourselves trained professionals because we've watched so many stunt shows like does that count uh yes i think that actually does count i think sometimes people discount people that aren't trained formally and they think that they can't do something well but i I know there's many professional wrestlers I've read about who just started out doing their backyard wrestling, and they self-trained, and they're real good. So I think there's a lot of examples. Also, like piano and guitar.

People don't necessarily take lessons, and they can become sort of virtuosos. So I think we have watched enough YouTube clips of people doing stunts for us to comfortably be able to pull off a stunt in a live show. Yeah, so our next live show is going to be playing piano and guitar on wires. We got to connect a piano to wires also, and it has to fly around to concurrently sync up with us. Like Tommy Lee or what was the other? Oh, Astroworld, the tour. to wires also and it has to fly around to concurrently sync up with us like tommy lee or uh what was the other oh astral world the tour uh astral world tour and i'm i think uh kiss is

flying around typically also i saw a recent kiss live video and they were they're on wires okay they're moving real slow real slow freights at their age they're on wires yeah but it's not quite zipping around um like create you know it's not peter pan style no no yes and there's no there's no flips or or anything right um it's it's it's kind of moving at the speed of like the uh the handicapped seat on the stairwell moving up real slow. So they're essentially taking an elevator on its last legs up like, well, it works, but the inspection date is in two weeks. So it might not be working after that. You know, is it just a practical reason they're using it?

Maybe like they're having a hard time getting from backstage to the front of the stage. And it's just easier on their hips if wires lift them and bring them to the front of the stage. Like they need ramps, but instead they're using wires in their concerts. Yeah, maybe some old folks too in their homes. Maybe if there were wire space systems, they could get up and down the stairs easier than with that slow moving chair. Oh, yeah. Is this potentially an episode I do? Does this count as themed entertainment?

Just doing a history of musicians performing on wires in their shows? Sounds good to me. That seems like a lot of fun because we just named a couple this kiss i know um um garth brooks a big wire guy oh yeah um yep yep uh yeah i think he maybe the first country wire guy he might have brought wires to the country fold for the first time well um i've seen a really good performance from I forget which award show, maybe the American Music Awards that is a performance of

Yacht Rock classic Sailing with NSYNC and real Christopher Cross. When the chorus strikes and they sing about sailing, they go flying. All of NSYNC leaves the ground and Christopher Cross does not he stays grounded

because he's not doing wires at his age so I just like if we just all looked up who's done wire flying I think that'd be a lot of fun I think we haven't really I mean we've talked a little bit about this in the show but I do think I don't know Jason you chime in I think we all have an affection for wire flying absolutely i know pink had some very elaborate wire work in her shows for a while and then she got fucked up doing it oh my a few years ago yeah because like wire wires in general i mean there's a great um little mermaid show in tokyo disney sea where you're... Scott, you didn't see this, right? I did see it. Oh, you did?

Oh, okay. Yeah, it was fantastic. Shockingly great. So basically, yeah, the idea is like you're on the seafloor and you're looking above and watching Ariel and her sisters and I guess... I forget. Is King Triton involved? Is he a puppet? How do

they represent him? i think i think it's an animatronic wow but yeah you're you're watching like the whole little mermaid show above you on wires you know in a very like kind of intimate theater um with some cool effects so i think there's a lot of like different uh pivot and spin points on those wire. That's like, you know, there's like 16 wires involved in that. That's just not like the two picking you up. Right. Yes. And there's I mean, there's a great history of wire work.

Obviously, Tinkerbell at Disney. So just the episode wires exclamation point. I think that's kind of what we've hit on here is that there's just going to be an episode called Wires in the future of Podcast The Ride. Sounds good to me. Yeah, it sounds great. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully we don't land upon too many

grizzly accidents as we look up Wires. I should say, Pink was okay. Pink was okay. And it looked very cool cool what she was doing. Yeah, she did Wires on some award show I saw. Yeah, she's good. Well, she's in Wires.

A lot of fun folks in Wires. For right now, we are here at Stunt Show Showdown 2, a sequel to an episode from our first month yeah it was forever ago yes it's like son of the mask coming out all those years later it's a real viva rock vegas it just took a lot there's just a lot of issues pulling it together we were able to reassemble the original cast unlike viva rock Rock Vegas and Son of the Mask. Or Backdraft 2. Backdraft 2 got some of the cast.

Yes, yeah, yeah. And so they're to be commended for that. But this is more than just quick little cameos. This is the full original cast of Stunt Show Showdown from 2017, reunited here in 2020. I don't know what took us so long i i uh i liked the first one and um i'm i'm excited to see what you guys have in store there were just so many good you know there were so many good other episodes we forgot yeah and it showed how naive we were because i mean sindbad and the uh spider-man musical not the broadway musical but the universal

hollywood musical we could easily get full episodes out of both of those uh now what was the third was the third a batman show yeah yeah from six flags yeah um yeah all those would all be their own thing easily at this point um we even I don't know the timeline that this is coming out, but either soon or it's already come out. We did a second gate about a quote unquote stunt show that like I think barely even qualifies to be in this episode. And yet it's its own episode on the second gate. Yes, that's true i i will say what the one i'm going to present today you'll probably say that i should be taken out of this showdown that i that mine doesn't really qualify as a stunt show but i'm not even sure where we would put it i guess in sort of in the same vein as what you're

talking about like a street type show but anyway we'll we'll get there. We'll figure it out. Yeah. Well, that might be a good cause to discuss what is a stunt show, what makes something a stunt show. Right. And if it does not qualify, then perhaps we'll have to give it the negative rating. Do you guys have, I had to go back into the episode and remember that we did,

first of all, I had to remember, did we in the first one all were the stunt shows all competing against each other and apparently the answer was no um so there's no winner in this okay um the winner is all of us for uh gleaning and sharing information um it was that we judged each one that we all presented on a scale of that. It's either a perfect aerial flip or a mis-aimed kick in the dick. That is what we did. I had to go back and brave an old episode. I listened to as little of it as possible.

I've, I listened to episodes now. I didn't used to, but I don't, I haven't heard anything we did in the, for the first 10 or so. And I don't have any interest in it. I agree.

I listen to these if I've edited the episode, but I've forgotten so much. Yeah. Yeah. It was a long time ago. It was the Feral era, in fact. I don't even... that name doesn't even sound familiar it's like the gene demanian era of snl it's rarely discussed i don't even remember that's

a different that feels like a different lifetime kind of does well for one it's when we used to be able to go outside oh that must be true remember you remember i forget when that was that feels yes it feels like a dream feels like we've been inside for a year i think but it's been so yeah days it's been days we might have already what if we already did this entire episode word for word and don't even remember it that's how hazed we are uh that's that yeah i i could believe that i could there's been times recently when we're doing the show and i go have i said this a million times before or never or is it all happening at once is it sort of now has this all driven us mad and we're all realizing now that like time doesn't isn't really linear and we've all like it's just an infinite loop and we're all repeating the same thing over and over

again i know for sure i have texted uh did we talk about this in conversation did i talk about this in conversation with someone else or did we talk about this on air while recording yes and a lot of the times we're not quite sure i was gonna say the answer is i don't know the answer to all three is usually maybe i just listened to something from one of our um quarantined episodes where i like repeated information that i had said in the previous sentence and i and i'm and i'm worried about listening to episodes from the first month. I think the biggest problems are happening right now. Yeah, that's probably right. Yeah, so anyway, we're losing our minds is what we're saying.

Yeah, we are. But, you know, I'm happy to be revisiting this old format and to talk about three different stunt shows. I think you guys know what mine is because i threw it out there but i don't know what your guys are so i'm really excited to learn uh how do we begin how do we get into this huh well i can start because one of my discoveries about mine is that uh you'd think this stunt show had entered the witness protection program. There's so little paper trail on mine.

This is why, like, now, yeah, to qualify for being in this three-topic episode, there has to only be, like, five available sentences about it. That's the only way we can make it fit. Of course. Well, should I kick it off because i mike mike has me so intrigued i don't i feel like uh i feel like we need to build to mike's mystery topic i'm i'm fine with that yeah kick it off yeah i think i think scott's honestly i think scott should be the main event mine's a little bit. Well, yeah.

Kick it off. Kick it off. Slam it off, Jason. Okay. Well, that's an appropriate attitude to go into because I want to take you back to the go-go mid-90s. Six Flags Great Adventure, a park that sits on a lake. And when you have a lake, what are you doing? You're doing a water stunt spectacular

specifically the movie we were all thinking about in 1996 the lethal weapon water stunt spectacular oh i don't know about this have i i okay so this i think has been mentioned very briefly on the show. Because for me, well, one, I had to research this topic just to make sure I didn't imagine this happening. But two, the reason I know I didn't imagine it is because like Inception, I have, did they call them totems in that movie? What did they call the top and stuff? The top, yeah, I think so. I saw the Lethal Weapon Water Stunt Spectacular at some point in the mid-90s. It ran at the park from 1996 until September 2001.

Great Adventure is the one in New Jersey with Kingda Ka that we talked about. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of been in the air recently on the show um yeah great adventure six ice great adventure in uh new jersey it's kind of equidistant between new york city and philadelphia so um kind of a big regional uh park for the area i grew up in and we would go a lot for i mean it's it's a day park you know people just go for the day i think there's one or two hotels close by but um it has the drive-through safari or it used to now they've kind of modified that a little but um we would go especially like the years we

didn't go to disney we had a tendency to go to like six flags great adventure or dorney park which uh cedar fair owns now uh that's in pennsylvania in allentown um but anyway the the lethal weapons show i remember seeing and so 1996 is right smack dab in between Lethal Weapon 3 and Lethal Weapon 4, which I remember the promotion. They really promoted Lethal Weapon 4, which also added, in addition to Riggs and Myrtle and then Joe Pesci, Lethal Weapon 4 added Rene Russo and Chris Rock to the cast. And this, the Lethal We weapon stunt show features lookalikes for mel gibson and um oh god i'm blanking on his name who was murtaugh and danny

glover danny glover right and then and it features a lookalike for a bleach blonde Joe Pesci. Because if you recall those movies, which I really do not recall much of them, Joe Pesci is in them with bleach blonde hair. I'm going to send you guys one of the few images. Leo Getz. Yes, that was his character. You can see this is the YouTube preview image for what little video is of this show. And you can find video. I can send you this link, too.

There's video on YouTube. And what it is is not B-roll. It says it's the A-roll camera for a commercial shoot for this stunt show. So it's like a lot of slow motion footage of jet skis and speed boats there's a moment where mertal does a somersault in front of a tank firing a gun that the tank explodes hell yeah it's it's kind of awesome but yeah this ran for like five years or so at six great adventure on the water it had a big sequence where um a speedboat jumps through a houseboat set and it it i remember thinking it was awesome and famously the why i remember it is because after the show we got to go up

and meet the cast and they gave out spent bullet casings oh wait you've mentioned this before that sounds familiar so next time i go uh back to my mom's house I have to try and find this bullet casing. I'm sure they love it when you bring spent bullet casings on airplanes. But yeah, they were just giving out bullet casings to children. Did you? I mean, do you feel like,

oh, this was awesome when you got the casing? Oh, I was psyched. I was so excited to go up and get like a blank, the bullet casing for a blank. So this took place on the lake. There was a lot of barges. And you would sit in these bleachers

for the Great Lake Grandstand, which was built with the park opening and eventually demolished and replaced by a roller coaster briefly named total mayhem and then renamed to the joker oh it got jokerfied it got jokerfied that's right, if you're talking total mayhem, the Joker, you know? He is total mayhem. He is total mayhem. Which Joker do you know?

Was it, like, modeled after just the comic book Joker, or was there a specific? Yeah, I believe it's modeled after the comic book Joker, like the 80s, 90s one. Right, right. the comic book uh joker like the 80s 90s one right so uh there there is like i said there's very little record of this stunt show online what i a lot of what i found i found on the website greatadventurehistory.com and they place this in context on their website they they're talking about season 23 uh the 1996 year on the heels of six flags great adventures record-breaking season in 1995 when attendance surpassed four million guests for the first time the park was at an all-time high heading into 1996 and this was a new attraction

for 1996 the other thing that opened up that was really big was an indoor roller coaster called Skull Mountain and then a Birds of Prey wildlife show. Oh, not pre-based on the movie. No, no, not based on the emancipation. Not based on Birds of Prey. Yeah, not Birds of Prey Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus. Right. And I, Jason, I don't want to get too into the weeds here,

but I assume it was Birds of Prey based on the hero group Birds of Prey. Because Harley, because they took the name Birds of Prey and they made it with different characters. But it used to be like with Oracle, a.k.a. Barbara Gordon. Am I correct? Well, that is the original Birds. i meant like hawks and eagles i meant the literal birds of prey you did not mean the dc comic heroine characters no i did not i did not mean that well i got excited sorry uh so here's you can get excited excited by some poor theme park journalism. Okay.

Because that is another piece of this show I found. I found an article in the New York Daily News that is 20 facts about the three new experiences coming to Six Flags Great Adventure. And this article is insane because it is a numbered list of one through 20, but they alternate which ride they're talking about. So they'll talk about explosions for a couple of facts and then just talk about, you know, a Griffin vulture has a wingspan of seven feet.

They don't tell you if you're talking about a coast, a stunt show or birds. And yeah, that's right uh like here's number two the dock explosion in the lethal weapon show is ignited by a propane line and the billowing flames reach a scorching 2000 f so they didn't spell check 2000 f 2000 F there's no degrees. They missed the word degrees over 2000 Fs. Also, I joined you on New York daily news.com. I looked up this article. It is a disaster.

It's crazy. My side of the episode might stop recording because of a virus. By the end of this, there's so much shit popping up. And I just to make sure when you mentioned inception a little bit ago, My side of the episode might stop recording because of a virus by the end of this. There's so much shit popping up. And just to make sure, when you mentioned Inception a little bit ago, I googled Inception totems. And it was totems, that's right. And now I have a pop-up ad for a fucking totem on NewYorkDailyNews.com. Whoa.

This sucks. That is too much listening to me. Too much spyware. Wow. I'm so mad at this website anyway continue you mean to tell me the new york daily news uh jared kushner joint or wait no is that the new york observer that'd be too perfect i don't know i'm sure it's owned by someone terrible yeah okay um my favorite fact in this is uh number five once Riggs' trailer home blows up, look for a toilet and a box of milk bone dog biscuits in the rumble. Lethal Weapon fans will remember the tense moment when a ready-to-detonate bomb trapped Murtaugh on the toilet

in Lethal Weapon 2. And dog biscuits are the favorite snack of the ever self-destructive Riggs. Which I forgot in the movie that mel gibson stomps around eating dog biscuits yeah i'll be honest i did too that's that honestly i wouldn't be surprised if real mel gibson did that too i wouldn't either uh richard donner the director also i believe came back for all four of these movies he did yes and he's coming back for lethal weapon five i read he's 90 years old is that happening yes it's happening original cast uh they didn't say he richard donner would be directing but they did say and richard donner

will be back uh and he i believe he just turned 90 or is turning 90. Wow, wow. Once they're making movies again, buckle up. The last thing he did was the movie 16 Blocks starring Bruce Willis. And before that, it was Lethal Weapon 4. Yeah. He's had an interesting career. I mean, he's been around forever. I mean, he made Superman when he was like 50, I think. Yeah, I believe that's right um so what else can i say about this show i mean there's some other facts there's a big

um motorboat in a daredevil stunt a motorboat crashes through a yacht flying 10 feet in the air that is in the you can find that in the a roll b roll footage i sent you guys which has no sound it's just very it's like cool slow motion explosions and boat jumps um uh yeah i mean the show looks cool and you can also see in the comments on the video people who were in the show go like man this was a hell of a time i always liked pink team but i didn't trust white team like people just talking about their their co-worker memories from working on it wow i mean i assume yeah it was like it's a it's we've said many times before it's like a theater company yeah where you get very bonded you know jumping on the back of a water ski and pretending to punch someone in the

back which is a clip i'm watching right now of this stunt show which i really i really enjoy that the like fake punches to like the person's shoulder while they've like they're behind them on a jet ski yes there's some good stuff uh the murtaugh actor crawling out of the lake. The other thing about this lake is, from the pictures from the 90s, it looks like you could pretty much just walk into the lake. Like, there was a tiny fence that I think even I could have stepped over and just walked into the lake. Well, that's something you often have said, that you're looking to walk into a lake. Oh, sure. The ocean, lake, yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, I guess you're right. You say, I'm going to walk into the ocean.

That's something you say often. So this would have been perfect for that. There's a couple different, and I'm not sure, is this, I'm sure there was a Batman show here too, because I've seen a different Batman water show. And it's interesting, because it looks like it just opens up into a swamp it looks like a there's swamps and and marshes yeah and and some

nature trails back there i had the 1996 um the front of the map i think i sent you guys the back of the map that features the lethal weapon which of course features a boat jumping in front of an explosion and the the batman forever show was running in 96 and that had its own um like amphitheater so they had two stunt shows going at one time wow so maybe it wasn't this one i'll we'll we'll get into that eventually i'm sure um but yeah that's i see the picture now and that they have the classic batman forever batmobile with like the weird i don't know what you would call it slats in the batmobile yes very very distinctive to batman forever yeah all the batmobiles are good that's sort of a stance i have all batmobiles are good i don't think there's been a bad batmobile

that's right you can you can have people have qualms about specific bat batmen but um you know the cars are always good yeah the cars always uh well you know what just a quick side note what's everyone's favorite batmobile uh batman animated series maybe all right that's a good one i have a toy of that sitting right next to me here uh scott Scott, um, maybe predictable, but it's hard to say no to the original Batman. Yeah. Yeah. And I live pretty close to the Chuck Barris, uh, facility, uh, which has a big mural of it, uh, in the Valley. And, uh, so makes me happy when I pass by that. Sometimes there is a a batmobile the adult batmobile in the

original and one time and i still don't know why i was at my high school and and the old batmobile was there oh it's like someone had it and i still don't know why and it shot flames in my high school parking lot whoa it was a surreal day it was wonderful so i might have to might have to go there although even this you only said mobiles but but I'm also, I love the sixties helicopter. Oh yeah. That bubble helicopter that, uh, uh,

he flies over the city and everyone waves at him. Um, that's my favorite part of that movie. And just like everyone waves at Batman for five minutes. Well, that's, and that's the one he hangs off and he gets the shark on his leg. That's the shark repellent sequence. Yeah.'s great uh i think i am i have a toy of

that as well uh i do i have some affection for the batman and robin batmobile though i think that one's kind of cool yeah so it's like the one that you're currently showing me here because it reminds me of the music video for Kiss from a Rose yeah I see this taking off real fast set to baby makes me happy to look at

sure we'll get to the full dissection of all the Batmobiles eventually a lot of Batman stuff coming yeah you know what doesn't make me happy to look at sorry to go back to this after the ad for the inception totem went away i got a new ad for a face mask perhaps uh because of the virus a face mask with the v for vendetta face on it that this is awesome the guy walks mask um i don't care i don't know whatever this is some dystopian shit looking at a v for vendetta face mask so i can go outside and virus times on new york daily news.com this is garbage i'm not going back to this website ever again

yeah you may need to you may need to uh completely erase your hard drive and reinstall your operating system. I'm throwing the whole computer away as soon as we're done. Yeah. I don't know when the new one's going to come. We're not going to be able to record for like six months, but that's why I got to do what I got to do. Just record it into your phone and send it or text it over and I'll piece it together. Just be memo quality. Sure.

That's fine. I found, so I think the last artifact i found i mean i sent you guys some screen grabs the the screen grab of the uh youtube window is the rotting barges they that were just left from this show uh left in the lake i don't know the current state of them but they demolished this grandstand i said a few years ago but the other artifact i found of lethal weapon is a again poorly formatted because it's so old it is from backstage magazine it's a casting notice for theme park roles from february 2001 and at great adventure they were staffing up for walk around looney tunes characters dancers who can sing, technicians, and stunt performers for the Batman Forever

show and the Lethal Weapon stunt show. They didn't list a rate, but the Six Flags Fiesta Texas casting notice lists stunt performers make more than $500 per week. Pretty good. Pretty good, I guess, in 2001

numbers. I think at a certain point this all just becomes the same routines you kind of step through um a lot of these parks of course are seasonal because of the weather so the season usually runs like may to october depending on halloween stuff and when they open up in the spring right so when it's summer in the late 90s in new jersey it's a hell of a time to be a stunt performer it oh man i can't even imagine like the the riggs and mertal actors are probably partying partying so hard in central new jersey yep different girl every time they wake up perhaps more than one

and i bet i mean the leo gets the joe pesci act like stand in i mean he had he probably had to be a funny guy so he's probably doing all right with the ladies too um so the photo you sent of him he looks a lot like john daly not our friend the comedian but golfer john daly yes bleach blonde hair um uh goofy shirts um goofy attitude oh uh the other thing you can notice uh the bad guys in this are very clearly the nondescript 80s 90s bad guys of like green and black fatigues and red berets. This is before every movie made the bad guy of Middle Eastern descent. This was like generic baddies. And that's how you just filled out Steven Seagal and Jean-Claude Van Damme movies.

Yeah. Air Force One is kind of that. Air Force One, Con Air, I think. A little. The Rock, certainly. Yeah, I miss generic terrorists. Genererists. I think I grew up thinking

that was the worst thing that I would have to face as an adult. Maybe if you're unlucky, there's some beret guys on a plane that you're on or someone you know. Beret guys. I like beret guys. Just beret guys. Oh, no. There's a beret guy on the plane. Oh, no. A second and a third.

And one beret girl. Yes, there was one beret girl yes there was one one beret girl uh well if it was a black beret it was probably a frenchman that was going to walk into an open manhole but if it's a red beret watch out now i know why you didn't have such a great time at disneyland paris because there must have been so many berets there because you were in france i was suspicious you were nervous every single one of them yeah i was i was raised to fear beret wearers yeah that's oh it makes so much sense i really i've never been able to handle watching that movie about the i've never seen it but i that movie about the, I'd never seen it, but I, that movie about the terrorist Rushmore. Right. I have the right read on that.

Don't I? Yes. I think yes. The cover has always scared me with you. It's Hellraiser with me. It's Rushmore. I get it. You're not,

Max Fisher is kind of a terror. He's definitely a terror. He does. Yeah. He blows a lot of shit up. Yeah, that's true. I guess it makes a lot of sense yeah but then the um street fighter live action movie paved new way because i believe john claude

van damme as the good guy in that wears a blue beret as guile oh right yeah yeah john claude van damme is guile oh so it depends on the beret color. Yeah. Red and burgundy. Always a problem, right? Yes. Darker. Yeah.

I guess red is, yeah, it's a more sinister color than blue. Yeah. So, so just check that color. Don't be blindly afraid of all beret wearers. Right.

That's a good PSA. It's a nice lesson. It's a lesson that with the lethal weapons, stunt show teaches you. Well, that's a good psa it's a nice lesson it's a lesson that with the lethal weapons stunt show teaches you well that's a lot of fun i wish there was there was more on this that footage you sent is is wonderful looking uh like the the sunlight beaming 35 millimeter film um it looks like great it looks like you could i was gonna say it looks like footage It looks awesome. I was going to say, it looks like footage from a better Thunder in Paradise or something. Yeah. It looks like you could put it into a

syndicated action-adventure show. Yeah. It feels very syndicated opening. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know why somebody didn't buy this footage and cut it into footage of a much more boring show that rarely has jet skiing in it. Well, I'm sure at this point, no TV shows are in production.

So I think we should throw it out to the universe that this footage is still available to be used as a TV show. Yeah. I also sent along one of the rare, one of the 90s, that classic 80s, 90s illustrations, park map illustration style and that does list list the lethal weapon uh show on the grandstand as you can see like they they built their like log flume uh on the water too so uh that looks very cool i did not remember that right yeah that's that's that uh kinetic energy we're talking about yeah kinetic energy and then and then they have rapids and that's all the way on the other

side of the park so great adventure yeah great adventure much more like nature-wise aesthetically pleasing than than magic mountain i'll say yeah that makes sense most things are magic mountain the aesthetic of no many no aesthetics or too many aesthetics i cannot wait to go back to magic mountain when this is all over that's the first thing you're gonna do that's the first thing i'm gonna go and i'm gonna say oh they must not have painted things in a while because of the virus. Got on a lot of slack. Wow, yeah, a lot of stuff. It seems like it's decayed here because of the virus.

Look, things are back to normal. Every building is being hosed down for some reason. First thing in the morning, get the hose on, on spray the building spray the walkways uh yeah it'll happen it'll happen at least hopefully hopefully in the next uh decade yeah that's the hope that's the dream uh that's wonderful what do we uh what do we call this is this a perfect aerial flip or a mis-aimed kick in the dick i'll say per seems like perfect aerial flip or a mis-aimed kick in the dick I'll say seems like perfect aerial flip to me seems like perfect aerial flip from what we can tell

great I love it good show good show Mike what do we got Mike so here's the thing like when we say stunt show when we break down what it means to be a stunt show like we think stunt show means guns and fire and either like atvs or jet skis

like that seems to be the the thing when you consider something a stunt show but is what is what would you like a stunt does that mean like it's dangerous or does that mean somebody's just showing off a skill that would be considered a stunt to a normal person. I'm getting nervous here. You know, is dancing in an area on high, like, construction equipment, is that a stunt show? Because I would argue it's more dangerous than a normal dance performance. Well, it's definitely intriguing. I'll say that. All right.

Let me see if i can actually just screen share and show you what i'm talking about here i believe i can hopefully it'll work and i won't have to edit this out all right how are you doing here can you see yep all right uh this is flash dance in italian this is in in an Italian movie land theme park. And it is a show, as you can see, where on a little tiny set that's a construction area, a man in a nice suit comes out and explains, from what I assume because I don't speak Italian, he explains that we're about to see see essentially the main character from Flashdance

dance and do a routine on all this scaffolding and construction equipment. From Flashdance? Who's the main character in Flashdance? I have all this written down because I have not seen the film Flashdance. Hold on, let me grab this. Flashdance, I know she's an 18-year-old welder. It's Jennifer Beals. She's Alex Owens. That's the character.

And this is a very short show, but it's on a tiny stage. So here, let me just fast forward a little bit. So two of the songs appear. What a feeling happens later. And then this is, hold on, let me find it. It says it on the bottom here. It's He's a Dream from Flashdance. That's one of the famous scenes of Flashdance.

It's probably the one you've seen where she dumps the water on herself on the stage. That should be to Maniac, shouldn't it? At least that's in the video. That is in the video, but the clip I watched from the movie, it's this song. So as you can see, there is just one single performer scaling

a construction site. In a big curly wig, like it's a Halloween costume of Rhea Perlman on Cheers. Yes, and she's got construction clothes on and she's slowly taking them off in a seductive way. I see the bucket. I see Chekhov's

bucket. There is a bucket on this construction site. So she is like holding on to poles. She is like doing what I would call like, she's doing like mild acrobatics. She's hanging. She's got goodrobatics. She's hanging. She's got good upper arm strength.

She's hanging. I see the chair. I see the rope. Something's coming. I see the bucket. There's the bucket. The moment's happening. Is it going to take her wig off? She took her pants off, so now she's wearing a leotard. Whoa, this is European.

She is spinning around and she's doing doing that kind of dancer pounding on the ground. She stepped on a bucket that might have concrete in it. It could have any sort of material for building or renovating a building. It seemed very sturdy. Yeah, that bucket definitely wobbled. So now here's another song, another music. Now she's trying to get the audience, which is just a little group of people. It reminds me of the Muppets' great moments in history

where there'd be like a small group gathered around. And I find, maybe I'm wrong, but I find this bizarre. I find this whole thing bizarre. It's pretty weird. Yeah, I'm definitely not something I've heard of. You really went dumpster diving here. Yeah, this is the one I'm feeling. Here we go.

Now we're getting to the what you want. It feels like, and this is no offense to the performer, it feels like she watched a couple clips of the movie was like all right got it i'll just improvise my way around this high kicks high kicks uh we'll post a video of this i can probably it's almost over uh this is one of the weirdest things i think we've ever run into good job job. They're clearly building to the bucket drop. Yes. So here we go.

They're not even hiding it. And then the bucket drop. Yeah. Wow. Live bucket drops. So she drops water on herself like in the movie, but it's not on a stage like in the movie. It is on a construction site.

And then this very well-dressed Italian announcer, I think, assumes, tells you to go on your way. Did we see the audience? Let me zoom back here. You can see this is where the audience, this is like, there's no like, it's not an arena or anything. It's just like kind of you gather on the street it's like you know a not sort of like cowboy show you a lot of children sitting on the floor yeah so flash dance this is this clip is

from 2014 i believe i found a clip from 2018 so but i don't believe the show is still happening that being said it's still strange to me that they went with Flashdance in 2014. This feels like when someone does like a cartoony European, like, yeah, we get to Hollywood, you know. Kiss, kiss, bang, bang. Sexy lady. Oh, Flashdance. Sexy lady. Bucket drop.

Oh, yeah. You know. Yeah, baby. I mean, I guess maybe it's got sort of like you know europe from what i understand is a little more comfortable with a little sexuality and they were like oh flash dance yes this is the perfect uh streetmosphere type show to give uh families when they come to movie land park it does feel yeah a little sexier than what would be in an american park yeah so i don't know if we consider this technically a stunt show if you want to disqualify me i'm comfortable with it but she is on elevation

she's not just dancing yeah yeah there's heights at play yeah uh i i don't i'm not in the mood to disqualify it that's fine fine. I really enjoyed it. And the answer, by the way, is that she aimed the bucket kind of at her torso and not at the wig. Because I do think the wig would have come off. So her hair does not go. And she's got to do this a lot of different times a day, I imagine. So, yeah, you can't soak a wig because they probably only have one wig. I think so. Or maybe two. There's a a wig because they probably only have one wig. I think so.

Or maybe two. A lot of big lice risk at this park. Two wigs, perhaps. Alright, Mac, you take the wig. You're doing two o'clock. I'm going to lunch and have a smoke. I was, so I looked, and I was looking, and first of all, it was very confusing because there's a movie park in Germany, and it's not this.

This is movie land. And it is, I don't know if either of you looked into any of this. There's a place called Gardaland and that has many different things. It has a water park. It has movie land and it has a medieval times apparently. Whoa. So it's this big sort of piece of property in Italy. Gardaland.

Gardaland. It's G-A-R-D-A-L-A-N-D. Next to Lake Garda. That's why. Right, right, right. Okay. So I was looking through movie land, and I believe the Flashdance show is gone.

Oh. So I was, yes yes i was looking through and and this might open up a whole nother can of worms that we will end up getting into in another episode because they have a lot of different shows they have medusa and it says medusa epic show they have something called choice of new generation which is new 80s films and spot symbols of pop culture. And it's pretty clear in there that Doc Brown is in the show. There's a young man in a Doc Brown outfit at the front of the show. And I think if you look around, there's a guy dressed as Terminator. This seems to be more of a dance show, so I didn't want to put it in the stunt show.

Although, to be fair, I also didn't watch it. I just think that this is we're going to have to get into choice of new generation. There is also an actual stunt show at Movie Land called U.S. Army Stunt Show. That's very good. Cool. Which I think we can for sure pencil that in for Stunt Show Showdown 3. Man, yeah, absolutely. They have something called Time Voyagers.

Yes, I saw Time Voyagers. Oh, my God. It's like a really chintzy Mount Rushmore with a pirate and a conquistador and a Native American in a headdress and an astronaut. Yes. There is something called sweet nightmare opera rock all right let's be real here 40 of european theme parks are just fronts for laundering plundered world war ii riches that they still haven't they've they laundered it long ago and then they just kept running the park because everyone forgot why they first opened like U.S. Army Stunt Show. I will say Movie Land is doing a hell of a job doing it. They have something called Bandito Live that says help the sheriff to capture the infamous Bandito.

Will you make it there is something called voices magic the thousand voice man arrives in movie land oh yes voice man the thousand voice man and what i believe has replaced flash dance is something called full candy jacket what a phrase and let me show you a picture from full candy jacket i'm texting it to you right now it is a like marilyn monroe uso style show show on the same stage that flash dance happened peanut butter filled chocolate covered full candy jacket it's a yeah it's a maryland is kind of swooning surrounded by uso guys and maryland has a very visible tattoo that says never stop dreaming. Yes. And I'll let you, I'll send you,

I have the link to the show here. We don't have to watch it like this, but I'll, you'll get to see that it's, it's very much the same set, but it says full candy jacket and it's painted on the bricks behind the performers. And they've reconfigured it to,

I guess, look a little bit, I don don't know more like the turn of the century not turn of the century but like around I guess this is World War 2 mid-century is really what I meant they painted the cans to say gasoline right so anyway I guess

really this is sort of a backdoor pilot for a movie land episode I think it's coming to me and if you'll let me just pitch you a backdoor pilot for a movie land episode. I think it's coming to me. And if you'll let me just pitch you here on the show, because we have done very little in the way of strange European theme parks. Yes. And I think it's time.

This really gets me in the mood and I'm going to propose a month or a series, however long we want to make it a series uh called podcast the rides european vacation oh that's great where we just do we cover yeah try to hop all like maybe don't even try to not repeat a country try to like do like a rail trip this is our studying abroad month and yeah we uh we we do it you know it's hey we're we're cooped up right now we can't travel we're not gonna be in europe for a while let's uh yeah let's take a little european adventure with the podcast that's fun yeah i love that maybe before the summer's through

that i think that could be really fun doing virtual a lot of blogs are doing virtual tours or virtual vacations like yeah let's get on that bandwagon you know yeah yeah i would i want to talk about diabolique in vertigo which is a thrill ride uh at movie land and they also i said bandito had a live show he also has a cgi 3d adventure the character appears in two the character appears in two different rides or performances. Cool. So, Movie Land is on the docket. That's definitely. Maybe we kick it off there.

We'll figure out the best itinerary to cover the most ground. But, yeah, let's have a European adventure. Ciao, Bella. So, we will post links to the all of this obviously but then flash dance so you can enjoy what italian children have had been enjoying for years um i don't i don't know if this is a good idea but i was when i i when i studied abroad i went to um interlock in switzerland and there was a theme park that i walked up to and was too cheap to go into uh and i'm looking it up now

and it was called jungfrau park and it was only open for like three years and that apparently was the time that i walked outside of it and it is all about like extraterrestrial theories um like it's like it's a theme park that as i'm going through it it's about like uh the mayan calendar and cargo cults this and much like um you're a disneyland some article called this place a cultural chernobyl well i think we found our first port of call young frow park we're coming frow park weird it's like about crop circles and stuff it's a theme park about alien conspiracy theories jesus i mean why didn't i go in there yeah i mean that's i'm upset i'm upset at you i was was right there. Oh, my. Whoa. And I was there literally several months after they opened the crop circle area. Oh, my God.

Jesus. I was an idiot. Oh, I'm so mad at you. All right. Well, I'll figure this out. Yeah, we'll figure out our Europe itinerary. But, oh, my God, this is a great idea. So if we have to judge my pick for Stunt Show, the Flash Dance.

Stunt Show, I'll call it. I can't see not calling this a perfect aerial flip. Okay. Jason, what do you think? I'll give it the same. You know, she had to sign some waivers, had to train of like, okay, make sure to climb this this way. You know, there's some risk there. Yeah. Okay, great. Wow know, there's some risk there. Yeah. Okay, great.

Wow. It lasted for a long time. We'll see if full candy jacket has the staying power. Well, and you can't, you know, you can't grade down something that led to our upcoming vacation together. That's true. Yeah. That's true. I'm Really excited. Okay. Well,

that brings us to my, uh, stunt show, the third and final stunt show. And you know what? Why introduce it myself when I could let, uh, one of my favorite actors tell a tale.

Hi, I'm David Hasselhoff. You know, on Baywatch, we make it all look so easy. Now come watch the SeaWorld Pros and see for yourself how wild it really is. The new live Baywatch at SeaWorld Adventure Show. All the life-saving, wave-breaking, pulse-pounding drama of Baywatch. In the surf-shattering, sun-splashing, high-soaring splendor of SeaWorld.

New Baywatch at SeaWorld. It's making quite a splash. It's making quite a splash. Yeah, we're talking Baywatch. If you listen to the show a lot, you know that I've become a big Baywatch fan thanks to Baywatch Remastered, which recently went up on Amazon and Hulu. Beautiful film transfers mixed with very awful new music created to replace the unclearable 90s pop songs that were originally in the show. Just that ad gives me a lot of feels hearing words like wave breaking and surf shattering

which i don't know what that means um but it all sounds cool um yeah this was at sea world and it was at i don't know if this is all the sea worlds but it was at four sea worlds. Um, those being San Antonio, San Diego, Orlando, and Cleveland. Um, I, yeah. Why? It's like all Orlando makes sense. San Diego makes sense. And Cleveland, I don't know. I guess, I think it may be also on a Lake, uh, probably much like, uh, the, um, uh, New Jersey when you mentioned, Jason. Yeah, so we're in some similar territory, you and I, Jason. It's a beloved 90s action property. It is a show involving jet skis, I'm sure you can imagine.

You know, my recent love of Baywatch, it's been so much fun diving into Baywatch. And I was trying to meditate on why and try to make the sell on Baywatch a little more. And I realized it shares so much in common with the Full House. It's kind of like all the same stuff I like about Full House, where it's a lot of big swings and really ludicrous stories and extremely incorrect takes on pop culture like they're making stabs like this is what the kids like right and they are completely wrong at every turn um a lot of magic and amnesia and flashbacks and things that it shouldn't have uh Beach Boys and Little Richard both on Baywatch and Full House.

And I think the stunt show carries some of the Baywatch spirit with it. You know, it's not always super affiliated and there's no characters. That's the thing that I will say. I think you're watching essentially a separate branch of Baywatch at each SeaWorld Park that you're attending the show, all united by an opening message from Mitch Buchanan as played by David Hasselhoff.

I think it has the Baywatch spirit in that the plot is pretty bizarre and could drive them insane. So let me share the screen one more time and once again let Mr. Hasselhoff do the talking. So, if you're ready,

let me set the scene. The beach in the boardwalk before you has been closed since 1942. It was voluntarily donated by the owners to help in the war effort. No one knows exactly what went on here, but we do know that before Kennedy reopened,

Baywatch needs to complete a thorough safety inspection. So, unless you know exactly what you're doing, these waters are off limits. Meow. So, it's strange that just a few moments ago jason you mentioned that um this european park was a a front for world war ii yeah because that's kind of the plot of the show um this beach has been closed since the war it was used in the war effort so like used to fire bombs from i don't know is it just like loaded front to back with weaponry i don't know what happened here or like no mitch

didn't go into detail keep up morale on the home front like well people need a little little bit of entertainment you know oh maybe there was a lot of uso type shows at this was a lot of USO type shows at this play. A lot of full candy jackets. Yeah. Yeah. So it all ties together. As it goes on, there's kind of the implication that this, Mitch kind of says that it's unsafe. And, you know, there might be some World War II remnants on this beach.

Now, I don't know why we're there. They shouldn't have allowed us to be in the stands at this beach. Now, I don't know why we're there. They shouldn't have allowed us to be in the stands at this beach. But nonetheless, we're there. But they can't really do anything on the beach until Baywatch has done a proper inspection. And that is kind of the central conflict of the show, because Baywatch says nobody can be here, but somebody else has a different idea. And that's DJ Johnny jam. DJ DJ Johnny jam is determined that this exact beach world war two artillery

beach is the perfect place to have beach fest 96. I don't have the clip queued up, but it is described as the the biggest the baddest the coolest event of the year and then oh yeah by yellow plays uh as well as an original song which goes something like beach first beach first kick some spray beach first on, let's jam! Kick some spray? Kick some spray. Once something has been sprayed, it's kind of dissipated, and you're not really able to kick it.

Kick some spray. Kick some spray seems like it traded back and forth between languages a couple times before. That started as let's rock, like it like traded back and forth between languages a couple times before yeah that started as let's rock and then it got translated and translated back four times and now it's kick some spray kick some spray seems like it would be uh like ocean sprays tagline like the juice ocean hell yeah kick some spray drink. Drink grapefruit juice. And then it's just like, yeah, really fake flat prune juice. You don't understand why you're kicking spray by drinking this.

But they saw the Sunny D commercial and they're like, we need attitude in the 90s like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was mostly Sunny D influenced. We got to get the Sunny D crowd in. influenced we're gonna get the sunny d crowd in kick the pod crowd in yeah um this was a a regular occurrence in baywatch episodes right like the antagonist would be some suburban nightmare fan of death wish style These teens, they've got a new drug called the Itchy. And it's like you do the drug by scratching,

and that's how it gets into your bloodstream. I have found the tagline for ocean spray products from the 90s. Oh, yes. Crave the wave. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Oh, yes. Crave the wave. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Oh, wait, there's another one, too. It's your zing.

Crave the wave, and it's your zing. Slay the bay. The beaches have been overrun by teens ODing on zing. We've got to do something about it. It's a powerful new drug that's also a juice. There is a pretty crazy overlap, honestly, between this and an earlier episode of Baywatch in that it's about the tension between the Baywatch lifeguards and a very callous, cocky DJ who thinks he can do whatever he wants on the beach.

And in the episode of the show that I'm talking about, that DJ is not DJ Johnny Jam, but DJ Larry Lumen Large, as played by Jeff Garlin. That's right. Oh. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, yeah. So he might not be aware that his story may have been sort of the inspiration for a stunt show that ran for several years. I would bet he is not aware of that. And if we made him aware?

He would say, oh, okay. Wow. Living the dream. Yeah. Honestly, I will tell. I will tell him. Yeah. Yeah.

Let him know. They didn't carry on the Larry Luman large moniker. I got curious about that episode. And he's on record in some interviews saying that it happened because he was at a wedding and met a guy who was a producer of baywatch he was like i love baywatch and he said the guy said all right you're going in the show and then he was wow it's just a little like casual but they like wrote it for him wow that's great i didn't know the luxury of being that was pre-curb too. He already, he had enough cloud even then to get a whole Baywatch devoted to him. Damn. Larry Luman large.

Larry Luman large. Um, but, uh, this is DJ Johnny jam. Uh, he shows up, starts leading beach fest 96.

Um, and, uh, that consists of, uh, that's kind of the excuse to just do like a bunch of water tricks that might be in any show. There's just like a lot of good, you know, just really good basic, you know, like barefoot water skiing and ramp jumps. There's, you know, there's danger along the way.

At some point there's a runaway's a runaway boat just a boat without a driver i don't know how they're doing that if that's remote controlled or if uh you know they're there's somebody just like ducking low um but somebody has to do a jump from a piloted boat onto the runaway boat to take control of it so that's pretty cool um it's not all water stunts there's also a at least the orlando one had a huge inflatable pink boom box that's pretty great um once the and his t-shirt cannons you can't have a beach fest for that t-shirt cannons sure um you know in fact the lyric of the song song states a pretty logical sense. If you're going to have a beach fest, then you got to have fun.

I can't dispute that. No, that's true. So then there's a race of souped up bathtubs, like a bunch of beach kook locals all drive around. Like here's a bathtub that looks like a big rubber duck or something. Wow, kind of predicted the Red Bull Flugtag, if you know Flugtag. Yes, yes. You have to remember, this was a pre-Flugtag time. Beach Fest 96 is the original Flugtag.

In the before times, PF, pre-fluke dog. Mike, you say you're making a beeline to Magic Mountain. I'm hitting the next fluke dog once the lockdown's over. We've all got our spots. Not that I did it before, but now, you know, I'm doing that and like the uh coney island hot dog contest oh jason will see you there yeah we should that would be a pretty good because that's at coney island right yeah like going to the hot dog uh contest america go jason america is open no i've

never been to the hot dog eating contest i have have to think, I mean, every East Coast beach is just a shit show on 4th of July. I have to imagine Coney Island is disgusting at the hot dog fest. Yeah, when you add the crowds and the insane heat to a bunch of water-soaked hot dog buns. Yes, yeah. Competitive eaters, very normal normal lifestyle culture you know the documentary the 30 for 30 about it is uh genuinely wonderful though oh absolutely yeah extremely extremely moving uh if you can imagine that um but so uh anyway all this nonsense is going on um they think they're just having fun, souped up bathtubs.

They kind of announced that they implied they're going to light off some fireworks. And that's when they've crossed the line. And the Baywatch team shows up and they say, shut it down. They're they're shutting down the beach. They're the Jaws mayor, not the mayor. They're the Jaws. Everyone not the mayor they're the jaws everyone but the mayor um and uh so in this like it's kind of weird because baywatch are the heroes but by telling everybody just showing up and shutting down the fun and telling everyone to play it safe they're sort of the villains in a way

because we were having fun with bathtubs and then they end all the fun hmm hmm interesting so i don't end up really on their side and then obviously also they're missing the you know they can't be as sexy as that flash dance show um so you're missing the you know the horrible 90s term the the jiggle appeal of Baywatch. It's definitely not as sexy as the show. You don't have the, you know, yeah, you don't have the big curves on the one pieces. I think everybody might be in shorts even. It might not even be full swimsuit attire.

So it's not giving you the full Baywatch experience. Is it more suggestive than the Flashdance? I would so it's not giving you the full baywatch experience is it more suggestive than the flash dance i would say it is not i think she is i think that flash dance woman is dressed skimpier than the uh you know than the family family family friendly baywatch yeah yeah that's uh it really ups the safety component above the sexy component. Right. Sure. Which puts it sort of at a detriment. That's not to say that the Baywatch team doesn't have fun as well. I think they even say, well, they say unsafe is uncool. And then that gets an applause from the audience. Hell yeah.

And then they say, we'll show you how to have fun without hurting anybody oh my god oh cool yeah i mean that is good technically i don't believe it someone has to be hurt somewhere for fun to be it scott can you clarify something about baywatch for me baywatch operated on macgyver and batman rules and that they were good guys but they didn't use a gun like they could get in fights but they would have to hit people with like oars and buoys is that correct yeah i think you can you can knock people into the water yeah but yeah it always ends up at that very Batman-y point

where somebody is, you know, about to drown or fell off the boat or is dangling for their life off a cliff. And then they will save them. Yeah. But Baywatch Knights. Baywatch Knights had guns, right? Had a gun. David Hasselhoff had a gun.

Most likely. I mean, what's more distracting is that it had you know like ghosts and um possessions um i mean it has the coolest weapon in the entire baywatcher verse which is that when a viking comes back to life and then perishes that Mitch is insistent on giving him a Viking funeral and perfectly fires a flaming arrow out of a bow into a lake and yells Valhalla as he does so. Which is like, why is Mitch a perfect flaming bow and arrow firer on top of being a detective and a lifeguard. Was he shooting

those at the same time, those shows? He was, and not only that, there's a the first couple seasons of Baywatch are a little dull. It was originally on NBC, and it was just more of kind of a staid drama, and there was a pretty boring character played by

Parker Stevenson, who is a lawyer and a lifeguard both and you just you you lose him he's no good you gotta wait for you know uh pam anderson and yet yasmin bleeth i feel like is the the the sleeper like best character in the show so when they show up it's really operating you know on all cylinders and i was i got curious like know, there's this sweet spot, like the Simpsons. It has like, here's the seasons where it was absolutely the best. And I was like, is it the same seasons they were also making Baywatch nights?

And absolutely it lines up. I forget. It's like 95 to 97 or something. Like they were so exhausted that logic went out the window it's like these are full these are not only like you know it's not like netflix size 10 episode these are like 24 episode seasons for both series so hasselhoff is like making a hundred episodes a year they're all really involved like stunts and and water work. It's such complicated shows. And he's in every like he's in he's in so many scenes, right?

He's certainly not in every scene, but he's in every episode. Right. Yeah. And doing a lot, punching and diving and kicking and arrow throwing. And were they primetime or syndicated? All syndicated. OK. It was only prim time in season one uh for nbc they canceled it and then uh they were able to parlay um hasselhoff's european popularity

into getting it on syndication and it became just the biggest cash cow ever wow wow yeah yeah uh they live the dream um much respects to team baywatch um so anyway uh they show up they have fun without hurting anybody um they uh they all dance a lot like all the lifeguards do a dance that somehow imparts safety um i think at some point they dance to the song come on baby and rescue me. So that's fun. The songs tie in. I'm trying to think what I'm, what I'm missing here.

Well, so that tension that I was describing, you know, beach fest, people are all dancing. Then the lifeguards are all dancing. But then it comes to Ed because they discover a world war two torpedo in in the sand and i might have gotten a little fuzzy if you can imagine that watching the single camcorder feed that went for 50 minutes um that i went in and out of paying attention but the torpedo gets fired and i'm not sure what like

did the dj somehow commandeer the torpedo and say launch it i think they want to like launch the fire like start the fireworks with a torpedo hmm and you're thinking dj what would jimmy jams what is his name so you would not jimmy jam but johnny jam johnny jam i'm sorry that's his brother jimmy yeah yeah Related to the Janet Jackson producer. Yes. So you're thinking maybe the DJ set off the bomb, but it's not clear. I think it might be like as part of the show or that or Baywatch did it. But like, how are they qualified? They aren't explosives experts.

No, I'm not sure. I don't know how this plays out, but a torpedo is fired, and then the DJ says, like, okay, well, we had nothing to worry about. That was a dud. And then a bunch of explosives and pyro go off. So it was not a dud. This whole thing happened on top of an active World War II torpedo. There's so much crossover, honestly, between our three stunt shows.

Yeah. The war looms large, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Lethal weapons such as torpedoes. What would you say? So if you were to take the stunt show and put it in TV show form, do you think this would be one of your what? How would you assess it as maybe just a show if you were to adapt to this? I know it's been adapted before, but do you think like that's is that has there been something like that as a DJ set off a World War II bomb? I mean, it seems like something they would do.

And with the nods to the past, it feels like very Baywatch nights. The only way I think it could be better is if like a ghost of an old soldier came back. Who's like a World War II general? Who's like one of the major... MacArthur? Yeah, okay.

Ghost of MacArthur comes back uh rommel the desert fox oh sure that was uh that was conan's nickname for me at the show i'm not sure i'm good the desert fox i i think is he thought my name sounded Germanic. I don't know. Okay. That's not as Germanic as Hasselhoff, but, uh, yeah, yeah. Um,

uh, anyway, uh, oh wait, no, it was the desert rat. Um, I had that wrong.

It was, it was Rommel's something. I was related to Rommel. I didn't understand cause he knows about history and I don't anyway. Yeah. I even got the name wrong just now. Um, uh,

yeah, as far as it being a show, I mean, I think it could easily be an episode of Baywatch because so much time is killed with dancing. Definitely seems like something they would do. Also similar to Full House in that, like, if they can think of a reason to have a band come by, that's half an hour of the show right there.

Right, right, right. That would kill so much time. Yeah, they have a ton of things where like um uh like a magazine is begging hasselhoff to put him on the cover like we're profiling local heroes and you're one of the biggest local heroes of all no no no i'm just in it for the work i'm in it to save lives and then he relents and they do do a sexy photo shoot with him and that montage takes like seven minutes because it's all slow motion um perfect excuse to kill a bunch of time uh so anyway but uh it you know funny you mentioned that um there there was a crossover between the show

and this stunt show and it's why i became aware of this um because in the episode baywatch at sea world they killed a bunch of time by just showing this show for a while oh my god so just all of the beats of it all of the beach fest 96 shit dj johnny jam is there. They work it into the plot. And I should say, by the way, this is the second SeaWorld episode of Baywatch. They've already been to SeaWorld. They're doing it again. They did Universal Studios too, so I also love it for that

reason. It's a show that'll kill tons of time at a theme park. And the idea is that there's a stunt show at SeaWorld that's struggling and they're looking for a sponsor. And meanwhile, Baywatch is looking for a way to get the word out about the work that they do. So they decide to sponsor the stunt show. So in this world, a local lifeguard team in from L.A. has decided to sponsor a san diego sea world stunt show

i don't understand i don't know why in this universe why would you go to this like you you would have no way we'd be so confused as theme park fans like this is a stunt show based on like a a team of like seven lifeguards in santa monica that have the discretionary funds to is a stunt show based on like a team of like seven lifeguards in Santa Monica. That have the discretionary funds to fund a stunt show two and a half hours away. By all means, let's not let's not give raises to the people who work here, to the seasonal employees who have nothing to do from September till April. No, no, no. Let's sponsor a SeaWorld show. Also, they play the Baywatch theme song within the show.

And you got to ask, what is that to them? Just like if the Simpsons song plays in the Simpsons, they don't know what that song is. Right. They would become self-aware at that point and their brain might be destroyed. Yeah, that might be my note for the episode. All the lifeguards should have started asking these questions.

CJ should have asked all these questions and then all their brains should have blown up. Anyway, they bring this up. What if we sponsored a stunt show collectively and then it's like alright well we'll go pitch it and then another scene happens and then when you come back there's you're just looking at the outside

of Baywatch Lagoon Stadium and there's a giant merchandise cart with the Baywatch logo all over it and like well I guess the pitch went fine then and a Baywatch lifeguard is directing the show so they've not only allowed baywatch to brand their show but they're letting a lifeguard do

the theme park directing work wow i think it's so funny the idea of like just the like baywatch writers just being like all right i don't know and then one of them says like you know we could just use that stunt show to kill 30 minutes and they get so excited or like yeah like what like maybe they're like oh i gotta have 20 pages in the script and they're like oh you just maybe a stunt show maybe just put a stunt show in like they must it must have been it would be like me trying to fill a paper in high school it's like well it's supposed to be five pages long and i'm like i only wrote two and now i'm bored it is the writing equivalent of triple spacing uh yeah exactly get some more quotes in there maybe a chart maybe photo photocopy a chart and paste it in footnotes are good if you can make the footnotes really long

and that really yeah that gives you a lot of the but footnotes also make if you can make the footnotes really long and that really yeah that gives you a lot of the but footnotes also make you seem really smart too yeah yeah you know well that's this yeah they're they're pulling out all the stops but they do add a twist which is that once the show is open um yeah as i said they just show it all and like the characters from the show like mitch and cj just sit and watch it for a while you just watch them clap and then uh but then something happens off on the outskirts because like the lethal weapon show this is on a real lake and a boat of drunkards rides up and watches the show from as close as they can get to the show um and because they are drunkards they knock a beer into some kerosene that's there for the onboard barbecue and the

boat is lit on fire so the baywatch crew that thought that they were just going to enjoy watching a stunt show based on them has to dive into the water and go do what they do in front of an entire stadium at sea world wow very self-aware yeah pretty huge somebody yells that's not part of the show um and then they they do it they save the people despite being drunkards they decide that they deserve to live and uh and they get a standing ovation from the entire sea world audience so uh it's it's it's wonderful it's very beautiful i don't know that beer or kerosene are that unstable that they would immediately ignite you know but a mild spit it's not even like a visible puddle yeah it's like a

couple of drips and then the entire boat is on fire you you don't you don't really see a lot of like action movies where it's like uh i need to make a molotov cocktail someone hand me that beer might be too much it's not the best starter no i wouldn't think so this sounds like the perfect plot of like the 60s batman show where like they went to see a stunt show based on batman and like batman's just gonna watch and then he has to get involved. Oh, yes. And then it's kind of unclear who's the real Batman

and who's the stunt Batman. Right, but yeah, Batman and Robin are just going to support the effort, the creative effort of the stunt show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they get a prize at the end, and like, well, we're not here for the spotlight. That's what the hardworking theme park performers struggle valiantly every day. That's what they deserve, the spotlight.

They're the heroes. Quiet, humble crime fighters, that's all. But anyway, thanks for the medal. So, you know, it's a lot of fun it's all made uh it's all elevated for me by the fact that it was um part of the uh uh part of the real show um now if there was ever anything that would knock one of these three that were profiling from perfect aerial flip to missame kick in the dick it may be that there was a horrible accident in the cleveland version of this show uh and this footage of it on youtube that i don't recommend watching uh where a boat uh just

like is plowing towards the audience and then does plow oh my god into the audience yeah it's horrible it's really really bad nobody died which makes it a little more acceptable to, uh, laugh about slightly. Um, but it's bad. The video is bad. They warn you in the video. It's bad. Um, yeah, yeah. Um, and let me, I crashed after a mechanical failure. Um, so I, uh, you know, fun that everybody dances to come on baby and rescue me. Not so fun that it, uh a grizzly accident happened. SeaWorld Cleveland was not long for this world.

And it actually became a Six Flags in 2001. And now I think is nothing. I think it may not be there at all. Perhaps an Ohioan listening can let us know. But I wonder if that kind of portended the end of, uh, the Baywatch stunt show and SeaWorld Cleveland in general. I guess you could say the minds behind the Baywatch show at SeaWorld

Cleveland were not always ready and they did indeed let that boat out of their sight. I'm looking scott i'm looking at a clip here from the show that says baywatch at seaworld and it says baywatch at seaworld this is the description in cleveland ohio with rose something i'm not sure this woman's name in the beginning and then it says typhoon tommy is at the 55 second mark. Typhoon Tommy. Typhoon Tommy. I don't recall what Typhoon Tommy is all about. Could that have been a... I don't have any other information.

Could that just be maybe a performer that went by that moniker? Yeah, possibly. Maybe that was a specific person doing a trick or a flip. Because at 55, it looks like he's just hanging off of a boat. Oh, maybe so. Typhoon Tommy was hanging off of a boat. Oh, maybe so. Tommy was hanging off of a boat. It all culminates in a jump off of a ramp where there's four guys all on skis doing a jump at the same time.

That's kind of what the thing builds to. And it's pretty impressive. There's also a part where all the Baywatch lifeguards all do a pyramid together, which I don't know why they would. I don't know why a bunch of lifeguards are doing a pyramid, but it's cool. I should also say something I like, which is that Pamela Anderson, her character CJ, spends the episode caring for animals at SeaWorlds, including an injured sea lion. That's what a lot of the episode is about. In real life, Pamela Anderson is a huge anti-sea world activist.

Right. She made like, yeah, major animal rights person and campaigned against them. So it's very it's weird to watch her in this now, you know, like reciting gunpoint lines about this place is really good to the animals. And if this wasn't here, a lot of animals could get a lot more hurt. I assume. I wonder if. I mean, does she denounce this episode? I don't know if she's had to publicly address it.

Maybe after we bring it up, she will. I'm not asking her to. I think it's pretty cool that she was being fed the party line in the 90s and today is like fuck that noise yeah i also think she's cool because she married producer john peters to pay off her debts and then divorced him 12 days later oh that's the greatest story i've ever heard isn't that insane yeah what a delight i would like to talk about that for an hour but we're almost at the end of this episode. Yeah, yeah. We're pretty close. Yeah. This year, married and divorced as fast as you can.

He divorced. He was about to marry a woman and broke up with her. Oh, to do so that he could achieve the dream of marrying Pam Anderson? Yes. And then they were married for a couple of weeks. He had paid off her bills and then she divorced him. Wow. Damn.

Wow. Damn. Wow. Cool. John Peters is the guy who Kevin Smith has that story about producing Superman that never happened. With the spider. With the spider. Yeah. Mechanical spider. Especially getting a spider in there.

That ended up in Wild Wild West because John Peters was obsessed with the idea of a giant spider in a movie. And a former hairdresser. Barbara Streisand's hairdresser. Married to Barbara Streisand? Yeah, yes. Tentatively yes until I do a quick Google search here. No, I'm wrong. Dated, though.

Maybe just dated, sorry. He was married to Leslie Ann Warren, though. Geez. Oh, wow. Oh, so good in Cl clue, which I just watched. Wow. Yeah. What a dating lineup.

Scott, that SeaWorld in Cleveland, I realized, it sounded familiar to me, and it got roped into the Geauga Lake story. It's the whole thing where a theme park kept changing hands and then uh it got roped into the six flags world of adventure which the sea world got uh molded into and then it became a wild water kingdom which is also the name of um a cedar fair water park at dorney park in Pennsylvania. It's a whole thing. I believe a listener who is working for a Cleveland media outlet had made a video

about the history of Geauga Lake. I do not know how to pronounce it. Okay. But yeah, there's a whole massive larger story about this area, this entertainment complex. Oh, weird. Oh, so just like traded hands a ton and pretty much owned by anyone who can own a theme park of this size geez now now been demolished it seems like i think wild water kingdom it looks like it closed in 2016 geez hmm uh well happier times when,

uh, Mitch and the gang were, uh, imparting, uh, the important lesson of keeping it safe on world war two artillery strewn beaches. Um,

uh, what do we think? Uh, what's, what's our, what's our another winner? Wow. Wow.

Despite the, despite the accidents, despite the accidents. Yes. I think this is another winner. It's a great IP. It's Despite the accidents. Despite the accidents. Yes. I think this is another winner. It's a great IP. It's a great IP. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, and boy, and it's a winner without even me forgetting the detail that it's full of something called an air chair. Oh, my gosh. Like a guy's like on a chair that's also a water ski. And in the boy, in the Baywatchwatch episode so many times DJ Johnny Jam says and there he is on the air chair like the fan

man yeah that's kind of a kind of a new generation fan man tired fan man wired air chair yeah well congrats to Baywatch and to all three of these for being perfect

aerial flips y'all did it yeah the trifecta wow wow and a little vacation has been inspired this was very fun very positive very productive yeah we really did it

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