Podcast: The Ride - Summer Rides Round-Up

Episode Date: July 19, 2019

We take a look at three newly opened rides: Jessie's Critter Carousel Inside Out Emotional Whirlwind Knott's Calico River Rapids Main Street Cinema Episode now available at The Second Gate: https://www.Patreon.com/podcasttheride Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Forever Dog roundup on Podcast The Ride. Welcome to Podcast The Ride, where we have somehow gone months without telling our audience that we got invited to a free theme park pie buffet. I'm Scott Gardner, joined by Jason Sheridan and Mike Carlson. Hi. How have we not, I mean, we were just looking for a place to talk about it, I guess. Yeah. But how have we possibly sat on this white hot information information For so long we were trying to play it cool I think you know you try to when you get

Invited to a cool thing when your Status rises you try to be like oh We belong here sure I Was at the yeah I was at the Vanity Fair Oscar after party yeah I was at the Knott's Unlimited pie Table surrounding the opening Of Calico river rapids yeah you know no

big you know it's just you know hey i just don't want him to laugh me out of the room you know yeah so you just act like you've been here is the phrase i think so that's what we were trying to do and that's what we've been doing for months but you know we have to brag about it a little bit because that's really as i said at the start of doing this show i want free stuff i want to be invited to places that's what i want from this access purely yeah access selfish i just want to go to boys and berries and any other berries that we don't know are delicious that are coming to us yeah any berry so that still goes if you have a berry based festival or treat or pie at your theme park or themed area invite us let us have it for free or berry

farm or berry farm sure do a berry festival is there another berry farm that we could go to like knots is there like is another berry farm exist well they need to grow them somewhere but is it like fun is it like I'm sure

there's hay rides and like, you know. Well, there's also, there's not, wherever the berries are actually made today, which is not Knott's because it's all a theme park now. Right. So, wherever their farm facilities are. And I don't know. I don't have a bag of Knott's cookies in front of me to be able to tell. Right.

Well, okay. Out there in the listeners, let us know if you know of any fun berry farms real or fake if it's just like knots in a theme park or if it's an actual berry farm where you can have loads of fun please let us know on twitter i'm gonna forget that you asked for that and one day wake up and go like why are people just telling us about assorted berry farms throughout the country we should do a tour of berry farms um but it won't be listeners so yeah close enough uh so so yeah let's we haven't really said what we're talking about exactly yet oh yeah well today this is a little like uh we're compiling i i realized that you could

unite all of these rides uh that we're talking about today and call it the the reskins of summer oh yeah that's true three obviously the big theme park story this summer is is star wars galaxy's edge which in is it is really i mean is also a billion dollar reskin of a goat ranch really extensive reskin that apparently has the same attendance as the goat yeah i guess so it's not a failure room to graze um no aesthetically great great reviews from people too many passes blocked out too many passes black it'd be interesting to see that yeah that's it's all other that's a whole other debate is this another one of these like disney star wars conspiracies uh but i don't know i think it does have something to do with i'm not sure also they just jacked up prices they jacked prices

like at least once this year significantly maybe a second time more quietly um have they considered lowering prices to get people in they're raising them while the Attendance is going down They have that deal which I just utilized with my parents Which is the $99 Park hopper ticket for a day If you have an annual pass I may do the same with my mom Do you have to do it in advance or can you buy it on the day

How does that work You do it on the day So you just go to the ticket booth in the morning and do it So very easy So the talk of the theme park world Is Galaxy says So you just go to the ticket booth in the morning and do it. I agree. So very easy, yeah. I agree, sure. So the talk of the theme park world is Galaxy says it's the $99 bring a buddy pass. But we're going to manage to step away from this and talk about some other things. There is a new Rapids, not a totally new Rapids, but a redone Rapids right at Knott's Berry Farm, Calico River Rapids, and then the two final

missing components of Pixar Pier, Jesse's Critter, Carousel, and the Inside Out Emotional Whirlwind. These are they're, you know, they're not as big of stories, but I think worthy of us talking

about a little bit. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the most successful elements of Pixar Pier in my eyes, having seen these both now. Really? More than the Incredicoaster? Yes. Really? Yeah.

More than the Cookie Num Nums? No. The Cookie Num Nums has significant operational issues. Mainly, it's in a weird spot. It's hard to deliver fresh deep dish cookies that quickly. Have you had one since we tried them last year? I don't think I have. Wow.

And you were a big fan, too. I was a big fan. But, like, I don't get back there that often. What do you mean? We go on the Incredicoaster pretty often. I guess so. So you're just breezing right by the cookie cart. Yeah, because there's like a line with no shade for like a hot cookie in the middle of summer.

Right. So would you want it to trade places maybe with like the churro, the Buzz churro? Or maybe the chicken stand. Like that's supposedly bad. Yes, the chicken stand Like that's supposedly bad Yes the chicken stand should go Yeah I mean aesthetically I like that I actually would disagree

I don't really like the big box I gotta like the box Anyway this is Go at night is what you do Where the whole everything is shaded The whole world is shaded It all does look good at night Have your hot cookie at night is what you do where the whole everything is shaded the whole world is shaded yeah i mean it all does look good at night have your hot cookie at night yeah perhaps a better time anyway

does jack jack's close during world of color good question i don't know the answer not sure jesse's critter carousel i think does i saw a sign that's one of there's not a lot to talk about with any of these things there's like four so when there's a sign in front of one of the rides that's one of the five things so that's off my list right uh but yeah these things these things are all a lot of fun uh i will say there's another obvious a major another reskin of summer the jurassic world attraction which we have not gotten to do yet yeah we're not we're not we're not prepared on that so we will hit that at a later date we were starting to question is this going to open in a very long time from now and then suddenly it just came together

and we're caught with our pants down. We're not going to be there. I mean, we could. We could go later today if we wanted. I guess we could. Do we want to? Spend our own money? I don't have an annual pass. We're waiting on a media invite. I think we got snubbed for that. Did it happen? I think it's

Is that true? I believe so. When? I think it's Is that true? I believe so When? I think it's end of July And there's a But there is a media preview? Yeah Should I email?

You can try I'm gonna have to email Alright I didn't know I'll tell you more off mic We'll talk off mic Past guests of the show are going Like already heard about it Past guests of the show?

What the heck? And not us? How many? Just one that I know of. Well, you should have asked all of our guests. Huh? You said past guests. Oh, sorry.

You should have said a past guest is going. A past guest is going. You made it seem very different. You made it seem like Sheer was going, Kyle Mooney's going, Justin Michael's going. Jeff Garlin's bringing my wife. How dare he?

Wow, everyone's going. All right, just the one. Interesting. Okay. Well, we got to sort this out then. We'll figure this out. Well, one past guest of the show went as a layperson. Matt Mazzani, who was on our episode about jurassic park the ride went on it

this morning uh texted me really liked it rave reviews yeah a lot of people i'm seeing really like it yeah seemingly so yeah that's exciting we're not yeah we're not going to talk about that that you're maybe like more wanting us to talk about oh yeah we're uh we're going to talk about a carousel with some new critters and uh we're gonna talk a lot about critters honestly today yeah there's a lot of critter talk yeah i'd say i was surprised reading about all of these there there's a lot of details like they they put a lot of thought into all of these is the thing that ties them all together you're talking about and the and um calico okay and the rapids uh where do we want to start do we want to start with which one has the least thought put into it what has almost no thought put in i don't know a lot of thoughts being put in with inside out obviously it's all that's about putting thoughts in places

uh i don't know you want it well you want to get to this pie maybe let's start with the exciting thing so we got invited i've been i've been begging on this podcast for a long time for Knott's to invite us to something. We did get to go to that haunt, but that was through Doug Barnes. That was through Doug Barnes in season pass, which was very nice of Doug. But we had not gotten an official invite via Knott's until this, until this Calico uh river rapids opening and we which by the way so that's a ride that's been in the park uh for a long time since the 80s but it was a relatively unthemed rapids ride a very nice rapids ride good greenery and everything but sort of no particular anything to it and this was sort of their attempt to do um it's kind of a spiritual uh sequel or companion

to these rides that we're very fond of the timber mountain log ride and the calico mine ride which have had which have gotten this influx of new animatronics and yeah opened originally 1987 as the bigfoot rapids uh which someone from knots pointed out uh did not feature bigfoot in any way yes now it does now it does feature it's not called bigfoot rapids anymore right which i think they're trying to go with the calico branding which makes sense but it is funny because like bigfoot you're like oh cool i'm gonna go see bigfoot and now if you were like a kid and you heard just calico rapids you'd be be like, oh, that doesn't invoke maybe. Oh, my gosh, we're going to see a monster.

Yeah. I forget where I got caught with no, I got caught being a dumbass when I was talking about, somebody asked me to explain what the word Calico is. And I, there's one of the, where I started the sentence thinking I had an answer and then it Collapsed as I went down Yeah but what's that word mean You know calico it's like the one of those You know it's like old It's when old time it's like You know it's like a spur factory

I don't know what is it what is calico Isn't it a type of cat calico I guess so I'm looking it up Now I did not know the answer to it Oh yeah right yeah I'm looking it up now i did not know the answer to that to it oh yeah right yeah i was i i i was talking it up like adding calico to the name of this ride gave it a lot of meaning what is that meaning uh definition of calico according to miriam webster a cotton cloth imported from india b british a plain white cotton fabric that is heavier than muslin? Is that a fabric?

M-U-S-L-I-N? Yeah. Okay. Any of various cheap cotton fabrics with figured patterns? And then the second definition is a blotched or spotted animal. Well, then what the... Why is everything in the Old West called calico? Well, why does every state in America

have a Springfield? Like, I think it was just kind of a go-to. But Springfield doesn't have like a definition like this. Springfield is just a name. This seems to be like either having to deal with patterns or cloth or an animal. So, maybe it's just like a fun, it's a fun word. Sure.

I guess there was patterned cloth around. There was underneath the pie aforementioned. Does Mike Nesmith have a song called calico girlfriend is it a monkey song oh please look it up jason's disdain for me i think you pulled that out of nowhere yeah it is mike it is i was just really my question was was it a monkey song but it's a michael nesmith solo song one he was one of the monkeys yeah so i don't know what that means. It doesn't...

Cloth girlfriend or spotted girlfriend? What does that mean? Mm-hmm. It's about him dating a rag doll. Or a cat. A filthy Michael Nesmith or a cat. Michael Nesmith dating a cat. None of the answers are good.

Unless the song was somehow fictional. I can't imagine it was. are good unless the song was somehow fictional i mean i feel like in the in the old west they were just like just naming stuff because they needed to you know i'm re-watching deadwood right now and like deadwood like i don't what does that fucking mean uh this is an odd logic to me they were naming stuff because they needed to. I mean, that's everything is named because it needs to be. Was there a higher rate of things needing to be named in the Old West? I mean, they were just like churning stuff out and claiming stuff and setting up camps and all. So, like, I don't know that they were.

What I'm saying is Deadwood, Calico. I don't know that they were putting much thought into any of the names. But Deadwood's also made up, isn't it? Or is Deadwood a real place? No, Deadwood was a real boom town okay deadwood is like a lot of the show is inspired by real wild bill hillcock was shot dead in deadwood okay was deadwood though referencing to like just trees that were dead though because that would make total sense to me if it was like i guess so they settled a place where it was like there were just old trees deadwood you go great i know what that means 100 i'm sure there was plenty of splotched animals

uh wandering around the woods so splotched animals plenty yeah i guess okay so bears let me go through the animals on the calico Bears Splotched Salmon but that's more The salmon's included because it's being caught by a bear I'm sure it's not a calico salmon No not a calico salmon There's a bear What's the thing hanging out

Above us on the calico ride Why am I forgetting what it is The mountain lion Is he splotched not really not really hmm not a ton well so some listener will tell us what we're missing here i think there's a piece of the puzzle we're missing a lot i think our the fact that i didn't know what deadwood deadwood was a real place al swearingen was a real guy what's that al swear the guy um the like main antagonist in the show deadwood played by um uh what's that guy's name um yeah he was john wick and stuff i know i know we have no information

he's great why can't i think of this man's name i see his face i wasn't gonna argue that that i wasn't gonna argue that that guy wasn't real people are so mad questioning the events of deadwood in general i'm sleepy right now and i can't think of this guy's name and i know his name he was in uh oh people are so mad at us right we can shave with no one we don't they'll look it up themselves we owe the listener nothing we could talk about anything else that's true uh jason are you looking his name up why can't i think yeah i don't i love him and i i have him right here his name is uh hold on here we go i can picture him so vividly i have a photo of him right now i know his i know him oh my god that's who we were after was he so embarrassing okay well let's get back to the the event we were invited to an event at knotsberry farm finally in the ghost town in calico ghost town yes uh which is like for for

the sake of knots uh continuity calico is their uh ghost town where the um the mine train yeah as you said the mine uh train is and the log ride um and where the ghost town alive you meet the towns folks you interact we met a lot of towns folks yes so they yeah they basically like they had an event and they had all the actors who who play different roles in the town um if you've never been to knots like they have a fully like immersive land essentially like yeah what they're talking about with star wars land you know where it's like batu and they say certain phrases the knots has been doing this for a little while longer of like they're fully in character the phrase howdy howdy you gotta learn all these phrases uh there's like a law there's a mayor there's a mayor but then there's like a power structure in

the government remember there's like a vice mayor or something i looked this up there's a there's a deputy mayor oh that's right that's the one we met yes yeah we talked to the deputy mayor for a little bit so we we everyone who was part of this press event got led in by a specific person from the calico town yes uh and under the guise of there's gonna be there's a celebration but have you but on the way there's enough time to talk about have you heard rumors of this creature apparently yeah so that around that was real fun they i and i forget the two brothers they're like oh have you seen these two brothers hanging around the well the i wrote these all down very good uh the brothers are john potts and john coulter two johns and they like lewis and clark opened up a new path for expeditions and that's what this rapid ride is and there's there was a big opening ceremony with a what i hear a more unfocused what are words conversation.

What kind of music was that music? Kind of like little brass band, old westy. Oh, yeah. Like John Philip Sousa shit. Like marching band garbage. Marching band garbage. Are you not a Sousa fan? Huh?

You don't like the Sousa marches? I would think you as a child would have loved the Sousa marches. I have my limits. Really? Not a Sousa guy. Scott, you seem like you would be a Sousa fan as a child. Because I liked history and stuff. I think I must have written a

report about him or something. I remember looking up that everywhere said that all the great American music, the greatest American musician was Aaron Copland. Oh, the great stirring American. And I was never, I did not get into Aaron Copland, which is probably, I think I'd be a hard to relate to person today. My favorite musical artist was Aaron Copland.

I in bands. Yeah, no, those are all, I was in band my whole whenever fifth grade to high school so all the band teachers just fucking had a big boner for suza and cool you guys suza i gotta go suza yeah and then like j other like jazz musicians probably but so i got i didn't relate to it i still thought the best song ever written was the ninja Turtles theme by Chuck Lorre. Did you lobby to play that in the marching band? No, I never, honestly, I never lobbied. They would let us play like this theme to the Simpsons once in a while.

And I was just fucking thrilled. I don't know why I'm saying the F word so much. I'm so sorry. I was so thrilled. Because you're trying to counter, you're trying to make it badass. I guess that is what I'm doing. That you were playing the Simpsons theme with your marching band Yeah it was like 8th grade

Because they would hand out the music And you wouldn't know what it was So they'd hand out the music And you'd hear the kids gasp a little bit As it would go down if it was a cool thing Which was just a TV or movie theme Like getting to play the Jurassic Park theme Was just like oh my god

We got to play the Jurassic Park theme was just like oh my god we got to play the Jurassic Park theme in a concert like this is great and then it'll be like a Sousa March and I was like who gives a shit also playing the Simpsons is a marching band song is that's like you're that's transporting you into the opening sequence oh yeah that's yeah

it is the diegetic use of it and if one girl had gotten up played a like pretty complex saxophone solo and spun out of the room that would have been exactly the same thing but that didn't happen nothing fun like that happened interesting yeah there was no one like that good i no one as good as lisa lisa one of the most gifted musicians maybe of all time yeah she's seven and that's the level she's at. Certainly in Springfield.

Yeah, I always thought eight. I thought Bart was ten. I think you see Bart turn ten in the Wally Weasel episode. Oh, yeah, right. So you do see him turn an age. But they're not necessarily chronological. At this point, we've seen Bart turn ten and won a Nintendo and then turn ten again and won a nintendo and then turn

10 again and want like google glass and there's lots also lots of there's like simpsons multiverses of what their futures are yeah somewhere leases the president and others where like bart sounds different like he sounds like an old man in one but he just sounds like regular nancy cartwright and others yeah yeah yeah it's it's a it's the most complex timelines is the simpsons verse yeah i don't want to get too off track here but jim hill was floating i mean jim hill floats a lot of stuff around but he was floating the idea that disney wants to get simpsons in the parks perhaps so i don't know what the he wasn't talking about the legality of that versus Universal. But it really, that for whatever reason hit me weirder than almost any other. Well, the way he was describing it felt craven.

Like, we got to get this in there to start paying off this Fox purchase. Well, I think a lot of things you could argue were craven when it comes from the management side. Yeah. They want to make, yeah. But I'm saying like even putting any fox property like alien or something i'd be like oh that could fit here and there yeah the simpsons the simpsons in california adventure i was like that's straight up weird that's bizarre yeah but it will happen and we'll also we'll never not have the simpsons like now that disney owns them it'll we'll be

every we'll never not have a new simpsons in our lifetime oh yeah if there's ever any chance of it disappearing yeah we're now yeah we're heading to season 78 oh yeah for sure this might be the first century-long series i think that's i think that's right um we'll outlive all of us man 120 year-year-old Al Jean. Show running. He's the only one that'll make it, yeah. But we'll be like, we'll all be, like one of the last things we see before we die is we'll be really sad to watch the passing of Bart number four. I thought she was going to make it. We'll be like, yeah, we'll be a hundred.

We've seen 200 Lass five barts uh seven iron mans does disney own lassie i think lassie's still one that's owned by a weird like other company like there's some there's at least one person at disney in charge of like sneaking around following whoever owns the copyright and trying to like snipe them or cyanide them. Any property in the world, there's at least one Disney person on it. Right. There's an assassin that or like even just waiting for the person to die. So there's an heir to the Lassie fortune and they're like 80.

And then one person just stalking them and as soon as they go or or maybe the play is to like make them fall in love with them and put Lassie in the will to be left to that person and then they'll sell it to Disney there's a lot of Disney agents seductions going on yeah yeah widows and

the yeah whoever owns Harvey comics someone's trying to seduce that person right now and fall in love with them so they can sign all the rights to hot stuff a little devil and just like an all like a off the you know the whoever owns the guy right of the book great expectations disney is planted in the family pretending to charm the pants yeah yeah i guess it'd be dickens yeah yeah i guess you could do dickens all at once i have no idea it's an unpleasant in all fairness it's an unpleasant book to read i always liked it as a kid i always thought it was fun yeah i always thought it was

such a downer it is miss aversham scared me i like but she turns out to have more of a heart of gold than you think i suppose this is why disney's gotta get their hands on this story yeah already this fan debates people are gonna be uh shared universe does seem like something that will happen in our lifetime i'll be arguing on some movie internet show about if maleficent is better than miss havisham both played by angelina jolie and then like havisham. Both played by Angelina Jolie. Like Havisham. Like a movie called Havisham.

Oh, it's just called the last name. Yeah, Havisham. Angelina Jolie is Havisham. The sequel's just called Pip, right? Yeah, yeah. That's the kid. Yeah. You'll be on Movie Fights 4.0

arguing with a robot that's been implanted with the soul of Nick Mundy. It's like, I'm worried it's actually mad at me because I said that robot's ideas weren't as good. Like, I don't know, Mundy robot's mad at me. It's going to fire lasers at you from its

eyes. So, Calico Ghost Rapids. Now, similar to our deadwood discussion the calico uh does pull some real life stuff coulter and uh potts and coulter were on the lewis and clark expedition they were real life people and i think some of the other residents of the town are inspired by or have the names of real life people gotcha um i think the deputy mayor we met is more uh a commentary on like schmoozing politicians he's very full of himself very right cuts off the mayor a lot and that's the thing in the opening presentation is that he he in his introduction of

the mayor uh ruined everything that the mayor was going to say. He's like, given the cliff notes of what it's going to be, and the mayor himself almost doesn't get to talk. So, for all of you keeping track of character names, Deputy Mayor Milton C. Howell and the mayor is Horton Parnell. But we met Milton C. Howell.

Right, and we have a photo of Jason and a video of Milton C. Howell. So, we wanted two mayor related people to get together. And we have a photo of Jason and a video of Milton C. Howell. Yeah. So, we wanted two mayor-related people to get together. Sure. If you don't know, we've been waging a campaign, quietly, of course, now in the last so many months for Jason to become mayor of Disneyland. It doesn't have to happen right away, but at least in the next 20 years.

But we were given, we asked him for a little bit of advice about playing the political game. And I don't remember it now. This was a while back. Yeah. Hey, we have the video. Never spend your own money. He's right there. Is that what he said?

Yeah. He said, never spend your own money. Is he talking about making a movie? Huh? No, he's like, always spend other people's money. Don't spend your own. Dress nice. Free knots event.

Eating their pies. Yeah. Yep. So, you're off to race. Yeah yeah we were and i was on good behavior with uh a rival mayor uh but we were guests so you know you have to have good manners yeah you got to be cordial especially in the old west um you know i i will say what knots is doing because knots has uh had some problems i think identity problems over the last probably decades. Tony Baxter alluded to them when we interviewed him because he said that one of his things that he does with his friends for fun is to

think about how to fix knots. Maybe the greatest moment of the whole interview. Yeah, yeah. That's pretty cool. Because they were like, oh yeah, this guy's hardcore. They're just like, they don't work for knots. They're just imagining how to do that's what that's what the theme park veterans uh slack channels are uh oh wow it's probably not literally

we got to get on that yeah um but like so yeah so knots had like knots was a quaint little ghost town and some rides and then all of a sudden they just Wanted to catch up to Six Flags so Most of the park I guess is all just Big coasters and Kind of jumbled That's like a very 90s 2000s Some of that charm and you know we talked About Barry Tales and even

Legends of the or Kingdom of the Dinosaurs Is very original IP It still had some of that charm For a little bit but yeah then you just i mean it is an aesthetic mishmash at this point right when you see it as you're approaching the park if you're driving up from the outside it's just a lot of like coasters that don't really go together right rising up and out of it so yeah i think they lost their way a little in terms of what is this place yeah it reminds me of like yeah driving up to a six flags it's not bad i think that some of the coasters are fun no and they made a big move they yanked

a lot of coasters you know they're at least some of them a few yeah a few and they're when they got bought by cedar fair they kind of i think we're given a little more of a budget to sort of go back to a more classic knots experience which i was just gonna pray i think i've praised them before but it does seem like everyone involved now knows like what people like and what maybe stands the test of time a little bit more so they're trying to build out the character and the immersion for this ghost town and it's good i mean they're they are on a limited budget versus disney but what they're doing seems like they're trying to just expand the footprint of this cool place that's immersive and it's just like anything you'd like

at disney where it's like you just like i like i like being there that's really what you like yeah the rides are great but it like you want to feel like i just want to be here which is i think disneyland's trick which you don't even think about necessarily because you think about rides but it's like i just like sitting in here i want to sit here yeah yeah which is and you know look at uh yeah but too under that lens that i think we've all said that's like the main thing is being there and not like the rides cool and the individual things are cool but just man i just want to walk around that place yeah i i it's got to it's definitely i mean they don't have unlimited money like disney and even with cedar fair backing there's still you know a budget to work within but everyone

seems very passionate and very hungry yeah and like they hustle and like everyone was it seemed like it feels like a very family environment they felt almost like a theater company like there's all these actors their families were all there everyone the people were eating in costume like i liked it felt like a theater company um yeah i like that it's a little more chill than like disney disney would lose their minds if someone like sat down at the picnic table with guests and like ate a pork rib dinner like we were but like there were cow we were sitting next to like cowboys and stuff like also eating you know while they were eating character and stuff that was fun yeah yeah it was very fun um so yeah i think that like it feels like what they'll do and i don't know this to

be a fact but it feels like they'll just kind of keep taking money and like expanding out and maybe that's the best way you can fix knots is just sort of try to expand the like lands here and the narrative and the I guess the story because it's all like some interlocked story. Now they're trying to tell, which is fun. Yeah. Yeah. Well, these rides all now tie together. I love that there's three of these. calico river rapids are are all existing attractions with just a great uh overlay of animatronics all made by all three of them uh with animatronics by garner holt this amazing

studio that uh like it doesn't feel like a thing an obvious thing for a theme park to do but like you're putting in a new coaster that makes sense charming up all of these rides with really like uh very like 50s 60s disney feeling animatronics i think what all of the they like i don't it's it's it's almost like they're as as disney gets more modern and away from what they started as it's almost like knots is trying to occupy the mental real estate of early more limited charming disneyland yeah they're succeeding in that regard yeah they're leaning into the quaintness of it in a way too where it's like yeah if we can't compete with like spectacle let's compete with charm and quaintness yeah and like a feel a warmth i guess too and pulling from their own history like because the

knots the actual knots jam and berry the preserve line is owned by smuckers now the knots you see in grocery stores known by smuckers but they have a marketplace line of jams and jellies they sell at the park because at some point they realize like oh people are asking us where they buy the jam and we haven't sold jam in years because smugglers owns the right so we should probably sell boysenberry products so yeah so but also like crazy to me that they would take the time to like like put a bunch of robots in the like that's a dream for us right that like um this is like this not super loaded park is gonna put in a ton of great robots every year.

That's amazing. Yeah. I'm impressed. Not every year. Every other year. Right. I'm impressed with like whoever is in charge of management like approving this because it feels like they go, well, we have that the ride is there. Is this really going to be that much better?

So it does feel like a move. I'm impressed that somebody greenlit. Yeah. Because it's so expensive. it's still probably what hundreds of thousands of dollars yeah and you end up having to refresh uh logos and everything like like and i think the like the loading area and sort of the you know that the house that you wander through on the way in and the cute like like like a ton of other stuff got redone and it feels like those it's uh plus ups that are subtle but that are akin to what they did to california adventure where now it's there's so much more charm to the place than there used to be it's uh not not as

obvious as putting a big ride in but i'm really glad they did it yeah and i mean it feels like they should have used the the money to make one of their roller coasters not kill your neck when you go on it. But that's I mean, what is that? Is it Montezuma's Revenge? I mean, I don't know. Ghost Rider. I remember being a little rough when I did it. Yeah.

Maybe a lot of them. Mm hmm. There was that. Whichever one like shoots you up backwards is the one where I went, oh, my. Oh, my neck. Yeah. It's horrible well we we rode a pony express though oh yeah so so so the event basically real quick to sum up is like we

got there and there was just a spread and we were just blown away we're we're a bunch of rubes we were just like wow like dinner holy crap and like there was b like it was amazing this is a this is a press beer and wine baby oh yeah and we were like just about or we i think we did a genuine cheers like we all like we're like here let's toast and then there was a guy with a camera it was like hey guys want to do that one more time and then they put us in the official video we'll post this yeah but i feel like i was searching around on youtube and there was a video made of the of the press event and there's a really like it's a it's a very cheesy commercial toast between the three of us very funny we didn't even have to be coached to do it yeah uh-huh we knew what they were after uh yeah i mean do you

guys feel like it's is it like almost harder to do the podcast now feeling coming in with all the celebrity that we have when we started this thing we were nobodies and now we're in an official knots internal use video yeah it is the famous skyrocketed down Just shoveling tamales down my gullet. I can't. Yeah, I've been different since the event, just in general. I've just been different to deal with, I think. I've been a different person. Which I think is just, it's kind of what the podcast is going to be about from now on. It's just kind of like coping with, you know, where are we at now?

Now that we're not stars. Yeah, it'll be like an entourage kind of thing. That's the narrative entourage. Like, how does he cope with being this big of a star too many offers i'm getting pulled every which way too many girls too many girls too many offers i'm really into sneakers now for some reason like turtle yeah that's what a turtle make yourself turtle yeah uh yeah that's sad oh that's sad that i had my option to pick which one I was.

And I just went, well, I got some turtle. You gravitated to turtle on your own. Yeah. There's four of them, too. So we really. Yeah. Yeah. We could have left turtle behind.

Sure. But I guess you don't want to be Johnny Drama. Which one's Edwin? He's E, maybe. Oh, he makes all the money moves? Yeah. He's just lying right now on the floor like a flat pancake. That one dog that Edwin likes up the street is Sloan.

Oh, his girl. His girl. It's on it. I'll get it. Sure. I'll get girlfriend. I think your leg is Sloan. Every time someone comes over, my leg is Sloan for Edwin. Oh, damn it. My leg's Sloan Every time someone comes over

My leg is Sloan Aw damn it my leg's Sloan again Edwin's girlfriend is my leg Aw that's cute Anyway So alright so yeah great event And as we said big spread of pies Big spread of pies

I made the same joke I make all the time when there's a big spread. I was like, Jason has a garbage bag. He's going to take it. He's going to just fill it up and take it to his car. We had like, I had gone back for seconds from the regular food. And every time we'd get off a ride, you would like needle me. Like, you got to get that pie. And I did eat it.

I did not feel terribly good uh after we rode i was starting to say we rode the pony express which is a launch coaster that you sit on as if you were riding a speeding horse there were two rides open the calico ride and then pony express yeah um and we rode both five times each at least yeah yeah well and at one of those events you get to just live a 12 year old's dream and say hey you guys staying on hell yeah we are yeah one more time we would like change cars for the pony express specifically we would change like positions we tried from the back we tried it from the front there were like there's probably mounted it and for many different we mounted the ponies from different positions it is an under it like clasps your leg

in and then the back comes up uh yes it's like uh one of my least favorite things it was like a dangling leg on a theme park ride and i felt like my right leg was kind of exposed so i would like after i got off i realized i had been like tensing my right leg to try to hold it closer to the pony to the fake pony uh but we did it we did a lot and there was only like a couple people on it and that ride has like the capacity i'm sure for like 40 people something like that and we're never more than like six of us on it once which made it even weirder and cool i the cooler so we got to do it yeah from we have to do it in this bizarre position i think we switched both ways where it was you guys all the way in the front and me all the way in the back and i'll post a couple pictures of this but it was really unsettling

to be on an otherwise empty coaster vehicle yeah also having been like yeah shoved in by the back uh oh that's yes that's also my favorite thing is that happened is that we didn't know how it was going to work and you were a little late getting in there like you were i was a little bit more in position and you sat down next to me and i don't think you realized that like this this hr geiger gear sort of device comes up it basically closes you yeah traps you in uh it basically traps you in like a like a staple remover basically yeah and all of a sudden this thing comes up and you went like it crushed you a little bit inside it's like it's kind of like it's a little bit of an unwanted touch it's yes yeah it's a pat on the bed it's a hug that lasts a little too long and this ride goes over the calico rapids uh uh the it travels above it you go through like

a shed above the rapids ride at one point um which is cool that the rides tie together and has a nice energy yes absolutely right yeah very weaving and interacting um so yeah so we we had we had unlimited food We had We were just trying to make our audience jealous I think that is what's happening And then We're just trying to be honest also

And then we got to be the stars of a video and I had a lot of wine We're just trying to be We're just trying to tell our truths Our honest truths And also yeah I'm just thrilled that knots finally acknowledged us sure uh what else about the rapids ride oh yeah lots of ride i mean um you know what's good about it it doesn't like soak you if you're thinking about going to knots and going on this

ride if you want if you have that hard block of like i don't want to get on something like that popeyes ride where you end up drenched yeah you probably won't end up drenched on this thing which is nice for rapids ride to not just the water wise yeah and i just went on the grizzly river rapids a couple days ago for i haven't been on it in like a year a couple years um and they the robots make a difference yeah they really do because there are no robots on Grizzly River Rapids. And there are bear noises in the caves on that ride. This is the ride at California Adventure. There are bear noises trying to make you feel like there are bears in this part.

Yeah. But there are no robots. There are no robot bears. Give me some grizzly swiping at me. Yeah. Let's have that. Do you think this makes it a better ride now than Grizzly Rapiping at me. Yeah. Let's have that. So, yeah. Do you think this makes it a better ride now than Grizzly Rapids of California Adventure?

I would say that it does. I think it might. I think it does. I think so. Certainly, there's a fun drop or two that doesn't exist on this Calico ride. But drops versus robots. I guess it all depends on your preference. And I'll probably take robots. 90% robot animals.

There's a bear. There's a mountain lion. Very interesting fiberglass animatronics, presumably so that they can withstand getting wet over and over. There is one unhinged human animatronic. And there's little gags. Like, that's what's good. There's some great gags. There's little gags. Yeah, there's good gags there's little gags uh

and that yeah there's a man with a musket that's shooting which is fantastic yeah um which also i was like that wasn't here before right because it feels like oh that was a holdover where a man with a musket shoots at you but no that's new that's great yeah and then it and then culminates in a Bigfoot, which is neat, but it's, I don't think it's meant to be just like stared at for a while. And you don't get to. It's chaos. There's mist. You're swirling around. But I think it is a tough area to portray a Bigfoot in something when you've got the Expedition Everest Yeti and you've got the the uh the matterhorn a vulnerable snowman yeah he um he i think in the promo art he looks massive like the

yeti yeah and then i think we went by it and he's like yeah he looks great in the promo i mean he looks yeah that's that's not really what they did yeah that's not accurate it's cool it's just it's like he's you know he's probably my height yeah he's probably six three we wrote it so many times once or twice they started doing the please stay in the car while we unload spiel right as we hit the big foot that didn't happen most times it seemed like they were still trying to figure it out you're right right but then other times you like the fog went off and the bigfoot screen like and it was lights and it was great at night especially because we wrote it in the day we wrote it at night it sounds like

we were there for 12 hours we were just like there at sunset yeah yeah so so in the dark yeah i think it looked cooler but it is a good animatronic i think i was just expecting like a massive yeah i don't know why i was thinking like there's gonna be a three-story because the concept art i guess yeah they implied something a little crazier but if uh i don't know yeah if if hey if you just want to go on and like a on a a a quaint's a good way to put it it's just a very very charming ride that i think now has more character and more of a story in grizzly river rapids and boy would that be a good one too for disney to add something if there's ever the right property to do an overlay and really turn that

into something that'd be great well obviously the answer and many people have said it's not my idea is to put some goddamn country bears on it yeah for god's sake because those california ones have got to be somewhere well well yeah but they but they have a different skin now, probably. I think we said when the Trump was built, it's like Big Al from... They turned him into... Yeah, they turned Big Al into Trump. Big Al and Oogie Boogie.

That's where they went on each coast. So, yeah, put some new country bear animatronics on this. Or just the Simpsons, whatever. That's what it'll be they'll just jam the simpsons in one of the you know the camping episode oh the episode six yeah seven million sure yeah i mean fine i guess um so i also want to say they have a fun thing where you can uh what do you call the dynamite box when you push the lever down they have that you know the where

you could shoot water at people basically a calicometer a calicometer you know the old a detonator i guess yeah it's like wiley coyote would lay the lay the yeah dynamite and then the trail of gunpowder and then and then so you can that concept art very accurate yeah sure yeah outside of where it is yes so yeah outside of the ride you can do that art. Very accurate. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Outside of where it is. Yes. So, yeah. Outside of the ride, you can do that and you push it down and it shoots water. And that's very fun.

Very fun to do that. So I like that a lot. Yeah. Hey, good job. Not they had to, you know, the odds are stacked against them. They know people are they're not going to steal anyone away from galaxy's edge all they can do is hope that while people are in the theme park resort vicinity that maybe they head up the road they take a little break from disney and i i hope people have and i hope i hope people i tell everybody go to

knife there's like some you got a random saturday or sunday burn a hole in your pocket want to have a fun day now it's a a great place to do it. Do it. Well, is that it? Are we mosey on to talk about some other critters? No, I think that we about covered everything. Then yeehaw, off we go. Off we go, and hey,

let's see another Wild West friend. It's Jesse from Toy Story. Jesse the cowboy has our own carousel. Let's see the cowboy Wild West friend. It's Jesse from Toy Story. Jesse the cowboy has her own carousel. Let's see the cowboy. Jesse the cowboy? Jesse the cowgirl. Jesse the cowperson. Jesse the rustler. What's that?

Cowperson. Thank you. Lindsay's monitoring. Thank you, Lindsay. Cowperson just rolls off the tongue. Cowgender is a construct. So, Jesse's critter Carousel. Yeah, this is a reskin of a, this used to be a King Triton carousel. This is an opening day attraction at California Adventure. And it's, you know, it's a ride.

It was there as a people eater. People were questioning at the time. So just there's also a carousel in this park. There's a Disneyland one. And then there's this one, which by where they put it, I saw this observation in this complaint that the King Arthur carousel, you spin around, you see it's a big swirl of everything that there is to see in fantasy land and then this one you see half for half of it you see the lagoon and for the other half you see a wall a concrete wall yeah that is designed to basically be like the barrier between incredic coaster area and the bathrooms and the yeah well then yeah the bathrooms as well uh yes that's fair

because right now what's they're doing a meet and greet for the incredibles behind that wall so i guess yeah and they made the wall look cool too with the incredibles logo yes the wall does look cool on the other on the incredicoaster side cool wall cool wall but the other wall didn't look cool so they had to do something with it so now they've dressed it up and there's kind of a there's there's there's a saloon and some art and they they i don't know they besides the the characters on the carousel being different i think they they did a little bit more thematic work and it plays in the kind of 2d vibe of the original woody's roundup show right that you find out about in toy story 2 right yeah um which this all like made i i don't know this was one of the rides they announced

was going into pixar period where i felt like why does this need to happen yeah but now that it's open yeah it's pretty nice and charming yeah they had a carousel already yeah so but it wasn't a Pixar property so I guess if it was truly Pixar Pier the Little Mermaid would make sense yeah I admire them for being consistent with the properties so it would

have to be this yeah and I think they kind of committed to the they used the 2D character the 2D critters that you see in the woody's roundup show which are the i i hadn't put it together that a lot of them are are the prizes in midway mania so that oh yeah yeah yeah that's great um and it all started to feel more essential to me when i realized and i saw this name checked in an official disney video that it's all the artwork of bud lucky do you guys know about bud lucky a little

bit there's a i i mainly know about him from this really good special feature on the incredibles dvd uh that he was a guy he's this longtime animator, a Korean war veteran who went on to be an artist for, you know, commercials for Tony the tiger and all this stuff. And then did a lot of shorts for Sesame street where he did the music and saying it and did all the artwork. Wow. What's the alligator King was the thing on Sesame street, uh, uh, among, among others. But, uh, then was hired at Pixar really early on, like in the ramp up to toy story. He, this guy is credited with Woody being a cowboy. Wow.

I guess he's sort of, he's sort of a folksy dude. And, uh, if, if just to give people the the context for him yeah not only is he it was he a behind the scenes person for uh for pixar he's also the voice of chuckles the clown in toy story 3 he's got this gravelly memorable kind of folksy voice yes yes he became eeyore in the winnie the pooh from 2011 uh and he's uh rick dicker uh the head of the superhero relocation program in The Incredibles. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He had passed away by the time they did two of the movies dedicated to him.

And he's replaced by Jonathan Banks, which is saying something for this guy's vocal performance that they had to hire this like actor with this incredible voice to fill in. Yeah. Yeah. Character actor. So, yeah, this this guy's super cool oh the thing about him making so so like early days of concept art for all these movies uh you know like in all the options on the table they're trying a thousand things they knew that that it was going to be about buzz lightyear a spaceman and he was the one who said well just i don't know makes sense that

you know a cowboy would be a good foil for him because an original plan was for woody to be a sarcastic ventriloquist dummy oh my god yeah i don't like that at all and if you've seen toy story 4 there are some very unsettling dummies around which i did not realize until now is in a way a nod to the unpleasant original way that woody could have been wow yeah the early there's early animatics with woody and buzz and woody is kind of a prick yes well that's the whole story of it is that it was like he was like unwatchably caustic for a long time until uh which i sort of i wonder at what point did Tom Hanks join like did they try story reels with temp voices

and then realize we have to soften this up and get the most likable person in the world to play this character or was he already I don't know how that went Lindsay is now answering there had been there had been Tom Hanks

being a dick I see so that was a revision midway through which is all like tom hanks playing a dick can be great sure like he's really fun as a villain or like or or even just like kind of a bond like in me um a league of their own he's kind of curmudgeonly yes salty yeah yeah but wouldn't work for this they needed the charm so uh the first ever iteration of woody being cowboy was from bud lucky and then he really got to go to town on toy story 2 and design all these critters i reminded myself of i the woody's roundup sequence of toy story 2 is so much fun the the black and white puppet feel and especially the critters are great these little like simple two-dimensional cutouts

that just kind of like flap around uh and do and make minimal critter sounds so really i started liking this ride more and it felt more essential to me realizing oh they're like pulling you into the world of this really charming designer bud lucky yeah and even just like they're they're designed not to like you know the 50s 60s kind of toys and that sort of thing they use the songs from the Woody's Roundup show and then there's a new song

Jesse Saves the Day there's six songs total like there's like yeah Woody's Roundup theme Jesse the Odeling Cowboy Prospector Pete the Ballad of Bullseye Hey Howdy Hey and then the new song Jesse Saves the Day I got you I love thatboy Prospector Pete The Ballad of Bullseye Hey Howdy Hey and then the new song Jesse Saves the Day I gotcha I love that old Prospector song

That is great Is that Kelsey Grammer is he the old Prospector in that yeah The recently me too'd character Yes Yeah yeah yeah That's a bizarre story When they do the fake outtakes There's's a scene where the old prospector is essentially

offering like two Barbies... Yeah, there's a casting couch joke. ...to be in Toy Story 3. He knows... And they're in his sort of narrow confines box. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, they've...

Yeah, they've... That's... I guess will not be going forward on any of the Blu-ray or DVD releases. Do you think that they put that information out there to sort of like win progressive points or was disney trying to like slide that out without anybody saying anything and then somebody noticed that's a good question is it good that people was that good for them at the end of the day or bad i bet disney put that out i'm very i'm always suspicious that they're always controlling them trying to control the narrative so i I feel like they put that up, but I don't know.

How did someone just discover that? Because there wasn't like a new Blu-ray release of Toy Story 2. I think it's the stream. I think it's a lot easier to swap in and out Masters on streaming sites and downloads. Oh, I see what you're saying. So maybe wherever that's streaming right

now, it's gone. Yeah, yeah. Someone noticed. I'd like to meet the person if that, if truly it wasn't Disney and they just tried to quietly do it, I'd like to meet the person that was watching it and went, hey, my favorite of the fake outtakes is gone. I mean, if I was a film archivist, I would be losing my mind after the last few months with like the Dumbo, Dumbo excising stuff. You mean for Disney Plus? Oh.

Because it's just like, oh wait, well then you have to go find a master cop just to preserve it. If you were like a crazy archivist you'd be like driven crazy by this? I mean like actual professional film archivists who are like trying to preserve history.

I don't think general consumers necessarily have the capacity to put stuff in the context of their times sure that's why i understand why they're not like you know disney plus featuring song of the south yeah no i think that's probably a bad like academic archivists i'm sure they're just like oh god we gotta make sure someone somewhere should have a copy doesn't mean it no this all needs to go yeah they don't owe it being on their streaming thing right i have blu-ray of toy story 2 from seven years ago so i will be the archivist for this casting couch couch joke this must be it's belongs in a museum Christopher Lloyd sang an Indiana Jones line I don't know why

you know let me hear I'll tie it back to several things you were talking about by saying that the Woody's Roundup theme and maybe some of these other tracks I'm not sure were done by a band called Riders in the Sky that were sort of like a little forksy

forksy forksy well you just got forky on the mind your new favorite character uh i uh writers in the sky a little folksy uh quartet that did sort of traditional gene autry

esque music uh they did the woody's random song disney was so happy with that they said would you make an entire album like this? That album went on to win the best children's album at the Grammys that year. And this seems like a family-friendly

group, the Tours of the World. People seem very fond of them. And on June 25th, 2019, the New York Times Magazine listed writers in the sky among the hundreds of artists whose material was destroyed in the 2008 Universal Fire. No! Jeez. No!

They're just a charming bunch of guys. They made the nice Woody song and they can never have their masters again. Oh, man. What a turn. I know. Them? Writers in the Sky also? Writers in the Sky. Is there any act that was not safe? I got to check.

Yeah, I was not a recording artist at the time, but I still feel like I lost something there. I feel like maybe there was something I recorded in high school that was stored there. I don't know what it would be. My family put my baby photos in there? Why? Maybe it was my high school band, Second Level. Maybe my archives. Second second level i joined it later i didn't name the band but maybe you joined it after the it became second level when you joined it was first level well that's what i like to

think of it yeah yeah yeah yeah so your version of the simpsons theme song was a lot more polished yeah well we it was a punk cover of the simpsons probably song was a lot more polished yeah well we it was a punk cover of the simpsons probably yeah it was uh i was trying to sing offspring songs is that what second level was uh second level was a lot of things uh we had a lot of different types of music you have a long continuity and backstory like uh wu-tang and coheed and cambria and all that yeah uh there were covers there were originals um it was all you gotta say a cover well cover or an original what was what was well i wouldn't know what the originals are but what's what's a cover a cover would be like uh um i'm trying to think of we would do ever long of course by the foo fighters

smooth no no no we were much harder than that um we were a tougher band tougher bunch of high schoolers uh gone away by offspring one of their like like intense songs not like pretty fly for a white guy i'm trying to think what else crazy taxi theme no not i yeah yeah yeah yeah um we would do uh uh like a punk cover of all that she wants by ace of bass nice that's pretty good that was pretty good i mean that's a good idea conceptually yeah yeah that was fun um i'm trying to think what else uh all i'll say is that an original was called rock the house and it was very red hot chili peppers influenced so that exists i'm teasing the audience with that now you have copies of course you have recordings okay we did that song we did that song at the high school talent show wow so that is it there's a video of me singing slash rapping rock the house whoa yeah but i am gonna go out on a

limb and say there is zero percent chance that you were doing it wearing only a sock that is true i am not naked as only like an attribute to the red hot chili peppers I am not nude With a sock on at the high school talent show You remember any lyrics of rock the house I probably remember all of them Let me think maybe not all of them If all of rock the house Rhymed with mickey mass

I think that it truly there were no I think it didn't make any sense I think the song made no sense It was just a collection of words sure uh chili peppers that's a very chili peppers that was a big influence on us obviously uh i think it was that's when we rocked the house oh wait we never got out that's the sort of manic energy that the critters on jesse's critter carousel uh have because they all got big crazy eyes

because they've all got heat madness. A detail from one of the Imagineers who worked on it. What, really? Yeah, the wacky critters. Good transition. The wacky critters have a maniacal look in their bulging eyes as if they've been out in the desert heat too long from the

Orange County Register. Interesting. Wait, they never got out. They never got out of the desert even though long from the orange county register interesting wait they never got out they never got out of the desert even though jesse came to help i think that if we do an episode where it's my performance of rock the house and it's your performance as a nazi and when you were 12 sure in a play all on patreon will be the most successful Patreon that month of all time. If there's a video of me reciting the Midnight Ride of Paul Revere

at my fifth grade graduation ceremony. It seems like you know there is. I don't. I swear I'm not withholding information. I know that I did it and I recently found a copy of the script that I highlighted. Oh, wow.

I think I may have requested to have more of it added. I wanted to do the second stanza of Paul Revere's ride and really show off. Again, little Scott, a little wiener. Patreon coming soon of humiliating video. Eventually. Yeah. Eventually. Yeah. little wiener patreon coming soon of humiliating video eventually yeah eventually yeah um so uh what else do you guys do you guys remember what you've uh ridden on there what what what animals mike took a picture of me i have there's a picture of it somewhere i don't know where it is it's on my phone somewhere the backward skunk is apparently a big hit. Yeah. Aaron just, we went on again the other day and Aaron did the backward skunk.

That's a delight. Yeah. That's fun. Yeah. Where the tail is really big and high as a more normal carousel animal's head would be, but it's in reverse. Yeah. Fun.

I like this. This detail too, there was an, as they were building it, there was an Al's Toy Barn pre-order sticker. Oh, yeah. That's fun. I thought that was a nice attention to detail. I like that. I'm looking through my phone and, oh, here it is. I found it.

But the first picture is you wearing a Knott's Berry Farm poncho holding some pie. Nice. But here it is. I honestly, it doesn't, I've cropped out what I was writing. You're writing the snake. Jason's writing the blue snake. I wrote the blue snake last time.

When I was on a bench last time. You were on a thing. I can't, but you're blocked out too. I can't see what you're writing on. I wasn't scared. I got up on one of the high, high animals. I'm very brave. But the benches are like owls who live in a downed tree trunk. Even the benches are fun. Yeah, yeah.

They've all got personality. It's definitely beyond that it's like cartoony looking animals. They have this, I like that crazy, that crazed back story. That's a lot of fun. The backdrop, the desert, like you can see as you go around the circle, you see the story of Jesse going out to help out a miner who was trapped in a cave which i believe is the old prospector who turns out to be a villain at the end yeah but not within i mean that model of the prospector not in the plot of woody's roundup the show yes he's not he's like a hapless always like

his butt getting caught on fire and stuff. The character fictionally deserves to be rescued. He's not a Machiavellian schemer. No. Could you imagine if Lotso and the prospector teamed up? Toy Story 5. Toy Story 5. They all survived.

I mean, none of them died, I don't think. No. One of them ended up on the grill. Lots of them was on a grill. What I like about this, too, at first I was like, well, why isn't it just all, why aren't we sitting on Pixar characters? Or why aren't we sitting on the Toy Story characters? And then I was like, that doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense.

But then, yeah, when we talk about, or when we were talking about like it, it's just from the Woody's round and stuff. I like, I like rides where they try to open up the world and dig in deeper. Like I like, I've said this before. I like Hondo being the guy on Millennium Falcon and not a famous character. Give us at least a side character or a new character. Cause that makes it feel a little more special. So it does make it fun that you're like good

digging deeper into an aspect of Toy Story as opposed to like sitting on Rex which would also be awesome. Which would be fun. But it'd be something to sit on Rex. Yeah I agree. You should sit on Potato Head and Rex and Slinky Dog. I want to sit on all of them. I want to sit one of my fantasies

was not to play but to sit on all the toys. I want to sit on Rick Dicker from Incredibles. Yeah, let's sit. In honor of Bud. Yeah. They considered, they talked about having the bullseye be one of, but they were concerned like, oh no, if there's only one bullseye, people will fight over getting to ride bullseye. Oh, interesting.

That makes sense. Yeah. It could have been all bullseyes i guess i guess it could have that would have been a little a little too much a little too much it's good what they did yeah and i think uh hey and you know when you think about like how many rides they've now mined toy story uh into uh and that uh is it that many yeah yeah yeah i guess yeah midway mania and this and Buzz Lightyear. But Buzz Lightyear is like an entirely other aspect of just this one

franchise than the Crater Carousel is. Yeah, same thing I'm talking about. Slinky Dog Dash and the Little Green Men ride. Oh, where's that? In Toy Story Land of Florida. Is that the one that's like the Mater? Yeah, it's like the Mater one. Gotcha. So that's up to

five now. Five, I guess? There's five Toy Story rides. Wild. Huh. the one that's like the mater yeah it's like the mater one yeah so that's up to five i guess yeah there's five toy story rides wild huh and then that one where you get the drop ride where you're trapped in the in the in the incinerator with uh oh yeah yeah where you're heading down into the garbage uh no one ever goes on it it's too too terrifying they should theme they should re-theme tower of terror in florida to the incinerator from toy story 3 yeah that's a great idea dip get rid of it just to make it a big industrial the hotel turn it into like a big metal like a big metal shoot yeah yeah and then you just go up in the front up up there and then you just have to there's the only way to get out is you all clutch hands and accept your fate But if you fight at all

If you fight at all it'll ride less longer And then just put on like a lot of heat Like a lot of Like space heaters on the drop Yeah To make it really feel like you're about to burn up Yeah And then I guess you get

I guess open the top up and you get rescued by the aliens By the Claw aliens As we all will be And then I guess you get, I guess open the top up and you get rescued by the aliens, by the claw aliens. Yeah. That's pretty good. As we all will be, should we, any of us ever face peril. Mm-hmm. The good, what we know that's nice is that some, like somebody, a peripheral friend of ours is going to suck us up out of the situation.

Yes. And that we won't die that time. Right, exactly. You get at least one free pass where your friend rescues you that's why we got a uh flood area 51 that's why we all got to show up and break down the doors with area 51 so the aliens save us it is a smart plan yeah that is smart yeah let's do it um oh and one more thing the dynamite goat there's a drawing of dynamite goat uh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's that's a drawing of a dynamite goat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. That's a good little nod and a tie together. I like that. Yeah, we love when rides reference other rides. Yeah. That's fun. It's nice and subtle and makes sense in the world. So, wonderful.

Love it. Does that bring us to the third? I think it does. Keep going down Pixar Pier and head to the inside out emotional whirlwind itself it's a new it's a new ride in a place where an old ride was removed but it is also a former a different pixar ride uh plopped into that other area it was flicks flyers in a bug's land and now it is the emotional whirlwind so if you were a fan of sitting in an apple jacks box sorry no longer it's not an apple but it is exactly the same yes it's the exact same right it's just it looks different and in your now like it all makes sense because they they deal with

those memory orbs so it's like the big ball pieces or those and before in the flicks one they were like big nuts or something or like acorns yeah they big nuts something like that so yeah okay something like they're gathering food they're just constantly gathering food and bugs right life i will first say that i was there a couple days ago and i was there with my family and I forgot to go on this. That was something I was doing but I was so I was trying to get in everything and I totally

forgot to go on it. So I screwed up. I'm being honest here. Well then you don't have the copious pages of notes that I have. So many notes I assume. This episode is going to be done 35 minutes sooner because

you don't have your thoughts. I know. I'm sorry. You really dropped the ball. The memory ball. I have plenty of thoughts. I just don't have first thoughts. But what good are they? You don't know what it's like to have that specific wind rushing through your hair. I am upset.

I was like, what the hell i forgot to do like is look my parents were here for the whole week and it's you know that can be intense i think jason it's time to begin the procedure to impeach mike from the podcast well at least someone's doing their job in this country um let's let's be an example by the video. Unfortunately, I did go on it. Oh, unfortunately. Well, no, I went on it, but almost got into some... Hijinks? Hijinks.

Scaring some strangers. I was there by myself and I got in line and I got to the front and they put you on a number and i did not what do you mean they did oh they just like like any other ride you stand on the number right uh and it was right across from the um pal around the ferris wheel which we have all been on um with me uh i believe i've been on uh with each of you now separately. And I thought, oh, well, surely we can all get our... Oh, no. Am I riding with this young couple? Oh, this is going to be weird.

Because on the first wheel, they cram people in. Sure. So, I followed the people in front of me and sat down in the same car and they were kind of like, are we... I guess we share on this one and then i realized oh everyone else had sat in their cars and there is an empty car and i'm like i am so sorry and then went to the car next to us and i went i'm so sorry how old is a couple i would say 20 19 or 20 oh man so trying to be a third uh yeah so uh yeah uh so

that that was uh a little second of weirdness um i should have just yes that got your emotions up that got my emotions up uh yeah you're especially mad when you slinked around to their side and put your arms around i don't know and i felt even like more stupid when i read the again the orange county register article about this ride and they say we think this will be a big hit with families and little kids and hey we even think it's going to be a nice date night ride and i'm just like oh god a nice date i ride and And Jason is here, too. I always read the OC Register article before you go on the ride. Is this a date night ride? You need to know.

But I also felt extra dumb because it was like one through eight. And then you can see there are eight cars. And I am like, oh, I am very stupid. I am very dumb. You misunderstood the number system did they say speaking english hot that day it was very warm yeah when i went as well yeah it's not the most shaded line i uh not the most shaded line aesthetically very pleasing yeah a lot of mary they they imagine your sight mary blair influence probably my favorite part there is a

lot of raleigh crump uh tower of the four winds whirly gigs oh yeah and they were like that was purposely a reference point like and and the sign was a reference point to to world's fair stuff so okay that had not occurred to me that makes sense these like mobiles where pieces are spinning around yeah yeah oh that's super cool yeah and the one there's this uh specifically the all the posters in the line are really nice. But the poster for Imagination Land, this red, swirly, psychedelic art, it's fantastic. I'm not sure what, I couldn't even put my finger on what it's referencing. But that one especially, but a ton of them are great.

That's, I feel like, half the reason to bring, you know, these overlays feel like, you know, they can feel a little perfunctory. But if you can get the aesthetics of one of these, you know, visually stunning Pixar movies into the parks, then that's a good thing. I mean, the orbs, like, the sun was going down as I was going on it and the orbs were all, you know know lit up and everything the memory warbs and that just looked terrific like i i really like inside out the movie and i think it's very uh uh nicely designed and i gotta say the the main theme song of the movie that

piano theme i think is so great and uh yeah really adds a nice little uh vibe to this area yeah yeah kinetic energy as they say energy this and the critter carousel is interesting because they're both like the kid rides and they open later yes and they both add the movement that does make a place feel alive for sure make it feel like more because this was a dead spot ever since the malibu was taken out for a really long time. Forever. Like, what is it, seven years ago? And when it was there, it was maybe sort of an unpleasant spot.

Because it's just big rocket sounds and screams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they need stuff for little, little kids to go on. Yeah. Like, under, you know, five and all to go on. Whatever. under you know five and all to go on whatever there's a certain height you hit where it's like

okay you you you are free to go on a lot more stuff but the younger kids i mean once once you pre-36 crowd yeah what are they what are they left with uh i had a lot of anxiety as a small child that it's like i'm like i can fit on fit on this. Thank God. Like I cleared. Was there a lag? Was there a time when. I think, I think I hit the minimum. I did hit the minimum at the age I started to really get into the parks, but it's like three foot, four foot.

And I was very nervous at a certain age that I was like, I'm not going to be able to be tall enough. Oh, sure. It's like if anybody's been to the Newport Fun Zone in Newport Beach, there's a ferry. You can take cars onto the ferry, and it takes you back and forth to this little amusement area. And I spent a summer down there, and specifically they had an odd system of pricing it

where it was a certain price if you were under 12 and a certain price over 12 and every time i got on the thing because i had just turned 12 and i was proud of it i'm i'm an adult now and i would get on this thing and when they charged me the kid price i was more upset than i ever am about anything today wow i've been just pangs of stress Like how dare you How dare you think that I'm a little child I've been on this earth for 12 years Recognize it Did your parents do like hey if anyone Asked today you're four like

Yeah yeah yeah Hey that'll do hey if I can Help save a buck but Yeah but this was a matter Of like 10 cents that's another weird thing Like 45 cents for an adult. 35 for it was a really obscure price. And my face would go red when they would say, oh, one child.

And this is just to get to an amusement area. It's not a trend. Like, because we had the cape. No, it gets you in general. You don't have to go to the amusement park to use this. Oh, OK. Yeah, because we back east,'s the cape may ferry you get on a jersey and it cuts off like hours from a it goes from like jersey to oh delaware or maryland admitted like it's a shortcut instead

of taking a highway this is much more uh uh it's it's it's a half hour yeah yeah in most um at some point we'll cover the my uh beloved ride of mine from there that's no longer there called the Scary Dark Ride. If anyone's listening to this and knows the Scary Dark Ride, I hope you're as fond of it as me. This dual ripoff of Pirates and Haunted Mansion that said dead men tell no tales. Wow. Really?

Even though it was about like skeletons and ghosts. And today, that space is like a dentist's office wow really somebody just works and types in what used to be a that's wild yeah yeah because it wasn't very big right no it was like yeah really cramped to cholesterol a couple sheds essentially yeah yeah pretty much yeah in just like kind of like an office parky area so yeah wish that was my office is that documented on youtube i think i think so okay Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. In just like kind of like an office parky area. Jeez. Yeah. Wish that was my office. Is that documented on YouTube?

I think so. Okay, good. Yeah. But it's not documented the time that my friend and I smoked weed in there. In it? Yeah, man. Wow. For the three month period where I was being bad. Wow.

Wow. We got to do an episode. Although, wait, maybe I just sat While he did it that seems more Likely so I could like second Hand deadly or deny Involvement if like somebody stopped us Right on the other side in the rare event

You still got like a thrill from knowing it Was bad yeah I well you know what I did One time you know it's the craziest thing I've ever done I sat next to someone smoking Weed on one like scratchy scratchy puff of bad weed on an obscure oc uh dark red scott you that skeleton who's saying dead men tell no tales was talking right to you because that weed could have killed you yeah well dirt weed and now pre-legalization dirt weed could have killed you well and there's you know uh weed is now illegal but at the time it wasn't so really it

would be in the it'd be okay for the orange county police to come up here and arrest me for my misdeeds in 2002 so i might be be, I might be telling a tale in jail. Oh no. Let's get that campaign going. Hashtag arrest Scott. Oh no. Please no. Lying about his age.

Lying about his age. Sitting next to him. That was also, yeah, that was in Orange County too. The mini crime. I like, if there's any way I can make amends to the city of Newport Beach.

I will now. Now I'll happily say I was a minor. There's a guy. I'm not embarrassed anymore. I didn't know what I was doing. There's like an undercover cop in a car outside the apartment now that's listening in on this. And he goes, we got him. We got him.

We got him. We got him. And then he takes his gun out of his holster chambers around safety off they're about to burst through this glass here and shoot all of us just to get the scott when it's a crime being committed uh by a uh now podcaster it usually takes about 110 episodes to fess up so let's just bite our time where are they at now i don't know they're talking but they've been talking about liberty square forever i don't think today's our day talking about that poop lane got more about the painted sewage lane guy goes home to his wife every day god how was work today always have to be two hours jesus i'm gonna be late again. Sorry, hon. They're running over.

Well, I guess what else is there to say for this? My final episode is a free man. Similar to the carousel, five different songs you can hear. This one time theme to each emotion. Yeah, I got anger. He said that like all the characters speak, but Anger kind of like drove it more. Yeah. And that was nice.

Yeah. The voices of Amy Poehler, Bill Hader, Mindy Kaling, and Louis Black occasionally yell at you on this ride. If it's them. If it's them. The Poehler one doesn't quite sound right. I think it might be Louis Black. Is it like Amy Poehler's sister we don't know about? Doesn't Tom Hanks' brother do Woody

when he doesn't want to do it for the low paycheck? It's that brother who did the show about Sweden or whatever that was. Right. Oh, yeah. He can perfectly do Amy's voice. Tom Hanks' brother is doing Amy Poehler's voice.

That's who's doing it. Yeah, interesting. I also like the trend, and it's the Guardians thing, where it's like six different songs. Like, just these little tricks to make you go, I don't know how to go on again to get the different song. Yeah. Very smart. You know, Mater's Junkyard Jamboree was a version of this, too. I think it's a way to make all of these little, you know, what are essentially, you know, still on the cheaper end, a little carnival rides.

Like, giving it a distinct aesthetic that is not just the ride vehicles, but also the murals and everything and the musical component. opponent i think like at least bringing you into a world for the time from from entering the line to leaving the ride makes it i don't know it keeps you coming back more than if it was just a little like a little spinner right whatever yeah so i give these things i give these things credit for sure yeah um the only thing i would dock it and it's not its fault but because there's nothing else around it it does feel like it doesn't quite belong aesthetically next to the coaster to me sure i feel like everything else like i feel like it was placed over by the critter carousel or over by the treat shop with the games it fits better there well that's the room now uh critter Carousel is technically in a section called the Toy Story Boardwalk.

And I believe this section is called the Inside Out Headquarters. Is that right? I've read this. This was totally news to me. It's called Headquarters in the movie. Okay, right, right, right. But I think the little sections of Pixar Pier have like, at least for Imagineering references, names. Interesting. So you

could not have the Critter Carousel anywhere on your Inside Out headquarters. Or Paradise Gardens Pier Park. The weird name, the extended name for the restaurant area. Still awfully strange. What part is the pal around in

then? That's a good question. I don't know what that one is the pixar pal around that's in pal around park pal around park distinctly different than pixar pier and then lassiter lagoon nothing's there there was never there when it was there yeah i don't know uh the hot so so the angry dogs are part of inside out headquarters well that's where it starts to break down because that's kind of far away that's what i'm that was my point yeah because that's closer to the toy story midway mania yeah so that's a different spot yeah there are holes in this or the famously well thought out pixar pier there are holes so bing so the gay the midway games and the bing bong treat shop that's inside out headquarters

i think the bing bong treat shop is closest to this ride but i don't know about the midway game but that's in between right no no Wait, is Bing Bong on the opposite? Am I losing my mind? Where is Bing Bong's treat shop, the Midway games, and this? Is this on the to the right of it if I'm staring at it? How is it possible I don't know this?

How is my brain not retained? Why is this weird? Why am I not knowing this? This is crazy. I've walked by this a million times. It's pretty obscure. I don't know. Yeah. Bing bongs across from the Ferris wheel, you know, and then you hit the inside out emotional

whirlwind. I couldn't think of Ian McShane's name. I can't think of this. It's always a good podcast when the phrase hold on has been said a number of times followed by silence uh let me look up just pixar pier map it's really important we know left to right well this is another thing where people just yelling west east obviously it's a very famous layout and these guys have they all gotten concussions how could they not know this yeah it's still sort of unclear to me uh from looking i got that i got the disneyland app

i'm looking at the original concept art for pixar pier here and uh it looks it looks pretty good and now it's fully realized it just the mickey thing is still sort of bothers me that it's on the wheel it doesn't make any sense why would mickey be on the pixar pier pier wheel take it off put some put luxo there uh because he's their boss he owns them that's all of the characters are in the ownership of okay as you go down pixar pier coming through the entrance uh by the restaurant and the abominable snowman ice cream. First you hit the Incredibles area, then you hit Jesse's Critter Carousel, then

Midway Mania, then Midway Mercantile. Speed up the pace here. Sorry, you hit Midway Mercantile first, then you hit Midway Mania. Then around there you hit an actual Midway. Okay, so this is on the very end then. This is on the very end.

Oh, God, and now I hit a kid. I'm going to jail. The midway itself, the games... Stirring up this map. The games... So it goes bing-bong, then emotional whirlwind. Yes. Got it.

Okay, so that is the closest thing. The games on Pixar Pier... That's Inside Out Headquarters. So we've determined that's right. Yeah, I would say that's Inside Out Headquarters. Okay. So that is the closest thing. The games on Pixar Pier. That's Inside Out headquarters. So we've determined that's right. I would say that's Inside Out headquarters. Okay. Gosh. And then you hit the silly symphony swings, which is not Pixar based.

No, that's a different thing. Because you're in Paradise Gardens Park. That's Paradise Gardens Park. But the Incredicoaster runs through all of it. The Incredicoaster. Yeah. Now we know that at least 30% of the Incredicoaster traverses Inside Out headquarters. And how can that make sense?

That doesn't make any sense because that would be its own. What is the Incredibles part called? They got to demolish that part of the coaster. I do not have an answer. But there is an Incredibles. They have a name for the Incredibles part. There's like a little section featuring the Incredicoaster and Jack Jack's Cookie Num Nums. Incrediland.

I don't know what the bathrooms fall under. Is that, yeah, the Incredible bathrooms or are they Jesse bathrooms? Well, but once you cross to the water side of the pier when you have seen your Buzz's churros and the poultry palace and the pal around, is that just the wild west? That's, well. I mean, is that part of the critter country? Not critter, Jesse's critter carousel country. Oh my God.

And then you got Coco country, which consists only of a poster with the Coco characters on it. And the marionette. There's a man with a Coco marionette that walks around once in a while. Okay. Right? Or is that just an Epcot? Well, then he better stay by that sign so that it all happens within Coco country. Right.

It doesn't make any sense. Well, it comes alive for like Day of the Dead and the Three Kings and that sort of thing. I want everybody to stay in there. Everybody stays in their area. Yeah, everyone needs to stay in their area. That's what I'm worried about. Yeah, vulnerable snow troids. So that's, all right, well, that's the only Monsters, Inc. thing there. Oh, yeah.

So is that Monsters, Inc. Pier or Monsters, Inc. Section? Then the restaurant, Lamplighter Lounge is over there. Lamplighter Lounge, that's Lampland. Oh, I was going to call it Animator Alley. All right, that's fair. Don't go down Animator Alley. Yeah, I was going to say going to call it Animator Alley. Alright, that's fair. Don't go down Animator Alley.

Be careful in Animator Alley. Be careful in Animator Alley. Some say the culture there isn't so great. Bomb Animator Alley. We'll figure out. You know what? Maybe we need to do a 19 part section of the Pixar Pier. Not this year, but at a certain point.

It seems like there's a lot of places. It seems like the sectors are already created though for us, which is nice. Maybe I'd rather go to jail. I just need to go sit in a cell and have my meals laid out for me. Some say this podcast is like jail though.

So you're already there. You're already there discussing this it's a 400 episode sentence yeah i'm ticking them off every time uh well for this time we survived podcast the ride um yeah go check out these new uh uh updated rides yeah they all have lots of nice attention and detail and they're all fun they're a lot of fun ended up with a lot to talk about with all of them and uh oh you know one way one more thing i like that in the line they give they give the spanish and uh instructions to bing bong and he says soy bing bong oh yeah that's great and that's nice that's nice there's an easter egg out front of the ride too there's a broccoli plant which in Inside Out, Riley famously hates eating broccoli.

Oh, really? Oh. Didn't know that one. Cool. Hey. So, you're a fan of Easter eggs. There's plenty of them. Go to those places.

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If you like hearing more of this stuff, go over to Patreon podcast. I don't know what the URL is. Patreon.com slash podcast the ride. There you go. So yeah, we talk about all this fun stuff on there for a small fee a month to support. And kick some money to my bail. In bail, Scott. When I am arrested, I assume this, when I leave this, it's going to be like to catch a predator.

And there's people just waiting on the other side of the door. I would say. I'll just lay down now. I would say actually just for that fee, we should just get you an ISDN line straight into prison. And you can just do the show live from there. Boy, that's, that's a way to make us stand out from other.

Yeah. One guy's in prison. Did you hear that podcast about theme parks for that? One guy's in prison and does the show live from prison. Three childless men in their thirties. One of whom was in prison for a crime that he committed while a child. A much better hook, honestly, than what we had. Yeah had yeah yeah so yeah that's good you gotta say that hook quick but uh yeah it's a little wordy to it yeah yeah the concept is great uh and then my and my cellmate

will chip in every once in a while he'll for sure be a show character no way backdraft sucked he's the most popular of the three shut up roxo he's a prisoner i like 40s i was gonna say yeah he's been in there since uh he made he made counterfeit money in the 30s he's a dick tracy villain yeah yeah yeah rock so his head looks like a rock pray for me. It's stuck with rock. So, all right. Nice though. Heart of gold. So long. See ya. Bye. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gairdner, Brett Boehm, Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey. Engineered and mastered by Alex Arche. For more original podcasts, please visit foreverdogpodcast.com and subscribe to our shows on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keep up with the latest Forever Dog news by

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