Podcast: The Ride - TGIF at Walt Disney World with Kyle Mooney

Episode Date: December 10, 2021

Kyle Mooney (SNL, Saturday Morning All Star Hits!) returns to the show to discuss the special episodes of Full House, Family Matters, and Step by Step where they go to Disney World. Featuring working vacations, invention contests, and patriotic record-breaking attempts. Mensch on a Bench episode up at The Second Gate: Patreon.com/PodcastTheRide Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: http://foreverdogpodcasts.com/plus FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You can find yourself a new guest. I'm outta here. Kyle, wait! And now the conclusion of Podcast the Ride. Welcome to Podcast the Ride, a theme park podcast with hosts who are such dorks, no transformation chamber would be powerful enough to make them cool. I am one of said dorks, Scott Gairdner, among the others, Mike Carlson. Hi. Hi, yes. If I got into that transformation chamber, it would either break or I would somehow get less cool. It would like, it would just not even know what to do with me. Arrows on it would just spin around.

Steam shoots out thing collapses. Uh, it would meet, uh, meet its match in you, Jason Sheridan. How would you fare in the, in the transformation chamber?

Uh, I'm going to go even one step farther from Mike and say, I would simultaneously come out dehydrated, but also clammy. So it's unclear how I'm both at the same time, but I just am. Okay. So yeah, it would just affect you like physically. It would almost be like you went to space, but no transformation actually happened. Yeah, it would probably just suck the moisture out of my body and just put it all on my forehead.

So somebody expecting, some babe expecting a suave version of you, Jason Sheridan. Sorry, madam. I got worse. Aged a bit. Several decades. It's okay. We can go out. You've heard of glow ups this is the first glow down in history folks we today are uh i i'm i'm thrilled i hope there are some audience

members who've been anticipating this one for a while i certainly have been as a host to talk about some of the greatest narrative content ever made, that being the episodes from ABC's early 90s TGIF lineup, where the entire cast of the show went and visited the Walt Disney World Resort. These are spectacular half-hour, two-part, really hours of television, and we're going to tackle a few of them today. And excited to be doing it with i think an aficionado of the genre uh joining us for the first time in a while he is a cast member of saturday night live and the co-creator and star of the new show saturday morning all-star hits which premieres

on netflix today you can check it out right now press pause on this go watch it come back however you want to do it. Up to you. It's Kyle Mooney, ladies and gentlemen. Hey. So excited to be here. Thank you. I get nervous. I was thinking about it yesterday. I do really love TGIF and this genre, we'll call it a television, but even you calling me an aficionado

makes me very nervous because I feel like I need to be continually watching it to know, to be able to pick from everything, if that makes any sense. But at the same time, it's so ingrained in me that it feels a part of my essence. I was nervous picking the word. I made a point of not saying expert, perhaps anticipating not wanting to put too much on you. I appreciate that. It's definitely influenced me spiritually in some way. I don't know that I could name off episode synopses

in a moment's notice, but I feel like it's it's kind of changed who i am structurally yeah you're not it's not that you would win a tgif trivia contest but that's not what it's about i feel yeah it's it's uh it's tonal it's what these it's what these shows are which i can see and it's if it's affected your your work i don't know if you feel like it's affected i mean seemingly that it's affected you as a person i'm i mean i it's oh yes undoubtedly it's affected my work and my sense of humor and therefore like i my sense of humor is part of who i am and so i think you could say it has affected me on a human level yeah i mean it's definitely part of the all these shows

are part of the fiber of my being as well and i know my my younger sister would just uh parrot things stephanie said and michelle said these would just be around in the house like for decades for far too long she's still saying how rude and that kind of stuff like i think grew up in a full house family a little bit yeah less people but uh you know you could underscore a lot of moments of the gardener upbringing with uh you know um the heartfelt music as the as the heart to heart and the moral are conveyed to uh to little scott full house was like on in the was on in the right time in like the morning when we'd be getting ready for school so it did feel like i was learning just as many things from the show as my parents maybe more so my dad worked nights was not awake in the morning so i definitely like in the morning it was the three men a full house uh giving me like fatherly advice i didn't realize that that you like a

scribe and those are were your morning dads. I just thought of it now, honest to God. My dad worked nights, so he'd be sleeping in the morning. So my fathers in the morning were Joey, Jesse, and Danny. But I don't know this stuff like I know certain comic books, but it's in the same way. It probably has more influence on me than I realize. That's something I was thinking about.

Because when you guys go off on Marvel tears, I wonder, why is this lacking for me? Why don't I have this pop culture avenue? Why didn't I? Because we grew up with so much of the same stuff. And not that you guys didn't grow up with these shows, but I do feel like maybe this is my marvel like the tgif shows they again i doubt my ability to like really spit out a bunch of information but i was thinking how i can definitely like an

episode starts and like based on the uh the picture quality or the age of the kids i can go okay so now we're in the era where Mrs. Carruthers would be in it or Joey's doing the Ranger Joe show where he has the woodchuck puppet. There's certain things I could spit out on site about these shows.

I'm trying to think if there's a bigger Urkel fan I know than you. I feel like. Is that accurate? I don't know. I think? You made this observation before? I thought about it, but I feel like maybe it's just because we're doing the show and we are referencing things from our childhood a lot, but I feel like you love Urkel and I feel like

you talk about Urkel more than any other adult I know. Huh. Because I don't feel like I'm talking about Urkel a ton. I almost feel like this is that other people aren't talking about Urkel enough. I think everybody else needs to bring up their their Urkel quota. Yeah. Kyle, how do you fall in terms of how much does Urkel come up in your day to day?

Well, also, I do want to this is a slight clarification I want to make that maybe it's neither here nor there. Full House started as TGIF, but it did move to Tuesdays. And I bet that this episode likely aired on a Tuesday. Is that right? Really? So it was not in TGIF maybe when, whoa. Season five, I think I was reading that it was, it had moved. Yeah.

One of the reoccurring things with these shows is that like when they hit season five or six, like it's going to have the Disneyland two parter. Oh, yeah. All of these shows, it did it in season five and six. The other thing that was interesting to me is all of these shows are on HBO Max now. That's how I watch them, because I guess Warner Brothers was the production company. It was definitely the distributor, but somehow the ownership has now ended up with Warner Brothers of these shows. Yeah, all filmed on the Warner lot,

Warner Brothers logo at the end, now on HBO Max, even though these episodes aired on ABC and are giant commercials for Disney World, and in two cases have a lengthy Indianaiana jones sequence which at the time was paramount so there's a real like car wreck of corporate ownership going on with these you can also really see in all of these like what uh disney world is pushing or what is new at the time because it gets like prime placement.

Yes, absolutely. Yeah. You could like within the different episodes for sure. I mean, you know, tower of terror comes up a couple of times. Um,

I always feel, I feel a number of these episodes. So you can feel Disney saying, I know, I know you just want to do castle stuff, but we've got Epcot. So do Epcot too. Like eat your vegetables. Make sure there's some Epcot in there.

Cover everything. Yeah. And it definitely feels like they were going over. There was some planning. Obviously, Indiana Jones, they were pushing hard with a stunt show, but it definitely feels like, all right, they all shouldn't be at the same hotel. Like we need to make sure we spread it out a little bit. People need to have a variety of the things that need to have a variety of things they can do

here. The fact that they get the big family shows to go to Disney World allows them to cover a lot of bases of four to five stories going on at once, which can send everybody off to every park. Everybody can cover a lot of ground.

I do like Urkel, by the way. I didn't get to uh formally state that i i uh thanks for back i don't know i feel like i just to speak briefly about my history if with this with the block if anyone i don't know if anyone's please yeah um yeah this this was an event on friday night i was not going out to hang out with cool people or anything like that so from like the age of let's say you know eight years old till about I would imagine 15 or something like that I consistently spent my Friday nights watching TGIF and and I think it also probably formulated like kind of how I perceived what like high school was like or dating was like in the same way like

Saved by the Bell kind of had a similar um influence on me but uh Family Matters I like I always had my favorites Family Matters was not my favorite at the time but then like I would say in my mid-20s I went back and watched it all and the way that it sort of evolved into almost like a sci-fi fantasy show and that they were like like fighting pirates and stuff like that at some point like i really was able to appreciate it on a new level and like yes the introduction of the chamber and stefan like just took the show to a new place. Yeah. I definitely, I think all of us probably agree that we would like primetime television to have more chambers

that would transform the main characters into alternate versions. Well, we discovered that, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids show, and that that's full of chamber kind of bullshit and inventions all the time. And it's like, you can tell, you know that critics at

this time must have been so um judgmental of shows like this and like this is american trash and this is what you know uh whatever la law is saving us from smart television i don't know what was being uh held up as the opposite but yeah i think in retrospect yeah we would love if it was this kind of thing all the especially the chamber the chamber is just the most fun if you started an episode and you realize that's where it was going because there's like how many like a dozen that end up involving the chamber or urkel's suave alter ego stefan or kel well it's it's nice that well I know I don't know what episode we're starting out with but it's nice that yes we got

Stefan and like you're saying I don't even know how many episodes Stefan is in but that's like a specific trope that we got used to that was always fun to see but I feel like in the full house special we got to see Jesse perform at the piano and with the Rippers. And like that felt like a very fun. I hadn't watched that episode in a while and thought for sure when he was trying to convince Becky to to forgive him for for missing their date that at the piano he was going to start playing forever. It just felt like. Yeah, that's why I think I might have assumed that.

I know my wife, Erin, thought that also at some point. Like you feel like that's what i i think i might have assumed that i know my wife erin thought that also at some point it like you you feel like that's what it's supposed to be for listeners who don't know uh uh the beach boys loom very large in full house they appear multiple times uh they lend a song to john stamos's character jesse and his band Jesse and the Rippers, which is one of the top tier bands in the world in the universe of Full House despite them not having any original songs.

They're a cover band that is just outstandingly popular. And having so much money, they don't move out of the house. Jesse still doesn't move out of the house. And he is also a morning radio co-host at the time. He's got like two different jobs. Both still doesn't move out of the house. And he is also a morning radio co-host. He's got like two different jobs. Both of which come into play in the episode.

He's doing both. I mean, that's a good era. It's Rush Hour Renegades and Jesse and the Rippers. He hasn't been kicked out yet and replaced with Barry Williams from the Brady Bunch. They turned it into Barry and the Rippers. Forever, just to say, that is a you know if i'm

like doing the the map of what is beach boys that i kind of kitschy ironically enjoy and then what's beach boys i truly love forever the original version from the 70s by dennis wilson is like deep into what i truly love just like wonderful lush beautiful little ballad. And then for some reason, the Beach Boys elected to give the biggest song by a deceased member to the show Full House. This guy's been dead for 10 years, and we're going to power ballad Brian Adams-ify this song. I was just so, as a kid, I was so confused by all of this. I didn't say it out loud.

I wasn't asking questions out loud, but I was like, this music video, is this supposed to be good? Like, am I supposed to like this? Because it's very like, you know, soft lens. That's an insane music. That's so silly. Like the many candles as he's in like a no shirt underneath vest.

Despite the rest of the show being a sitcom, you were supposed to watch that music video and think it is really cool. And that Jesse is cool and Stamos is cool. Yes. And that you want to buy the Beach Boys Summer in Paradise album. The only place you could buy the song. It was lost on me as a child. I didn't know that. I didn't know I was supposed to.

I liked Jesse at the time. I thought he was cool, but I definitely was like, this video is funny though. He's like, looks funny. And I'm laughing. His twins are filmed in front of, like on top of, like in a cloudscape. And then he like

tenderly kisses them and like an ann getty's portrait oh yeah it's really really in getty's yes yeah i don't think i was processing the music video element i think i probably just went this is something for adults like this is something for my parents um but i did know something for my parents yeah i don't know this i don't i guess this is a thing adults do i don't know what this is but i knew the only people on earth who liked this were my parents yeah and my aunts and uncles uh i knew kokomo because that was always played at like weddings and stuff that was always played at like receptions i feel like That was in the mix. Yeah, yeah.

Kokomo with John Stamos in the video, filmed at the Grand Floridian Hotel in Disney World. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. I didn't realize that. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. History. Yeah, not the Coronado Hotel in San Diego, you might think.

But let me get that on the record. It's Grand Floridian. Well, I guess we're sort of full housing it a little bit here. What year did this air? 90? This is May of 1993. 1993, okay. This is the first one of these three to air.

Yeah, I was going to propose chronological order, by the way. And also, just really quick, I think we're going to try to just cover three of these. The big family episodes, which are all two-parters i was saying to kyle like they're all like roughly the same episode kind of like a lot of the same things happen structurally they're the same uh you know technically we should maybe be covering boy meets world and sabrina the teenage witch but those are gonna have to wait not to say they're off the table forever but apologies to uh fans or stands of those shows anyway that's that's the

plan proceed later tgif later later on i was just going to bring up jesse and the rippers doing the hippie hippie shake in 1993 well it's interesting now as an adult to watch it and go that song was 30 plus years old at the time it's like but these i'm pretty sure that song is heavily utilized in the angels in the outfield soundtrack as well so it got some some mileage circa 93 to 97 just yeah just throwing it out there it's interesting though because i think as a kid i actually didn't even realize it was that old like it didn't register but now it is just an interesting choice well and it's how they open the get like so the the impetus of the show and of the tanner family going to disney world is jesse and the rippers booking a gig at disney world and you don't really know the specifics of the gig but then when it starts it is in front of

cinderella castle they've shut down magic kingdom. It is all for Jesse and the Rippers. I think the way it plays in the episode is, ladies and gentlemen, Jesse and the Rippers. For goodness sake, I got the hippy hippy. They are straight into the middle of the song. And one general question in all of these, and I'm curious

if any of you have insight into this, like are these actual park goers or are these background actors in these, in some of these, like, like, like in that spot? It's a good question.

Cause you see, you do see when you go on Disney on certain days at Disney, they'll have a sign up that says we're filming. And basically by being in the park, you agree that we won't sue us if you're on camera for any reason so i wonder if it's a mix i wonder if it's like people that extra is like right around the main actors when there's like close-ups of them in crowds but then like there's possibilities that they just got stray people far in the background and yeah i don't know we were watching

jane was like look at that crowd they're rubberneck. They're like really staring at the action going on in the front of the shot. Yeah, it's pretty crazy crowd acting, specifically in the Family Matters proposal scene. If you really stare at people in that one, when a big grand proposal is happening between non-famous people this isn't like jesse and the rippers nobody knows who stefan and laura are and yet they're up on the stage with cinderella and a crowd is gathered that goes all the way back to the front of main street it fills right all of me what is this event is this a thing that occurs i mean that's something you can ask about a lot of what happens in these episodes that i think is another strong point of all of the is that they all it contained things that do not did not never will happen in disney world but i didn't

know that as a kid i thought all of these things were on the table. Yeah, possible. I definitely thought the Michelle, what is she, the princess for a day? Mm-hmm. I thought that might be possible. Yeah. Now, in my memory, and I don't know if this is another show at Disneyland or Disney World, I had thought that Michelle pulled the sword in the stone sword. So, I don't know if that plays in blossom or something else or i just totally imagined like uh imagined that but that's kind of always how i remembered

her becoming princess for a day so it's fun to see it change up that makes more sense that's what's that's what's there that is a thing where like only one kid does it i i almost wonder if that was what was written and then disney noted it and said we're pushing aladdin really hard right now can we make this some sort of made-up aladdin thing because um if you haven't seen the episodes and again hbo max look them up if you want to know what we're talking about um as soon as the family enters the magic kingdom there is this setup in main street mind you in the victorian era main street there's just this little aladdin world setup um with a big like loud vizier kind of guy and this announcing that there's uh you people can come up and rub

the lamp and there will be a princess for the day chosen um can i just add i wrote down this quote and i don't know if this is directly what it was and i've not seen i've not seen aladdin in a minute so you guys can correct me if like this is actually a major character but someone in the group is like whoa look all the guys from Aladdin, the lamp seller, Jasmine. I read that too. All the guys. Everyone's just like, yeah, it's everyone. The lamp seller. That's what teen girls are obsessed with.

It's the lamp seller. So there's the ceremony that's going to happen. Stephanie, the middle child, Jodie Sweden, it's supposed to be her turn, but then she offers it to Michelle. I forget why it becomes Michelle, but it's like rightfully her turn to rub the lamp. But she gives it up or gets distracted or something. And Michelle does it and she is chosen as princess for the day which there's like a bunch of magic a big puff of smoke all of the all of the daughters together say oh baby and then uh and then suddenly a big inflatable genie is there uh which us dorks know is from that uh aladdin's royal caravan parade

which was in disney mgm studios and what's it doing in uh in magic kingdom makes no sense you see it later on going down hollywood boulevard in mgm studios the the other inflatables you know that were used a lot in the parades at the time uh you know minnie with the fruit on her head and uh jester roger rabbit those of course come into play at the end of the episode but that's a different story yeah nice to see them really good to see i'll add plot wise i mean just because we maybe passed went past it a little bit but like when jesse gets these when gets asked to perform with his band at disney world there's also this whole thing of him having, celebrating his anniversary with Becky and like, and you'll see

this when we get to step by step but there's this whole thing of like I guess couples like trying to have sex while at the parks or like trying to make love that seems to be a driving narrative thing. That's on all of them yeah, every episode of every

show is about how horny almost every character is. Oddly enough, these episodes are not pushing Disney's very robust babysitting services and kids clubs, which they were really pushing in the 90s of like, hey parents, if you want to get the hell away from your

goddamn kids, leave them at the hotel. We've got people. Yeah, there should have been one that one at least that showcased that service yeah you'd think i don't know is this an uncomfortable area maybe for why i don't know what you were you were heading for mike but i'm just i'm curious now uh is is there anything accurate about this depiction of like disney world as an especially romantic place in that regard well here's what i'll say about this when you're a certain age and this is not people think this is out of character for me

but when you're a certain age and you go anywhere especially when you're with your parents and maybe you're in your mid to late teens there is an idea that like maybe i will just lock eyes and fall in love with someone there's a good thought that on vacations all the time and you know stemming from like kyle and like my worldview kind of coming from shows like this and people are always like you know finding the love of their especially on trips any show goes to hawaii or something they instantly somebody meets the love of their life and like maybe gets engaged within three days i always thought that was in the cards for me in disney world or anywhere. Yes. Right.

Yeah. I also, it isn't until you're much older that you realize like all these shows are written by weird, by like weirdos who had like big old nerd childhoods and they're writing what they wanted to have or like didn't happen to them on vacations. Yeah. I think the shows made me,

gave me the wrong idea. Like that it would literally just be like, I would look at someone they would look at me and then they go oh okay great now we're in love and really i it would bypass the need to like i would have to show my personality at all like i would have to demonstrate i wasn't a crazy person like all that stuff felt like you know basic stuff but maybe because i watched these shows and they made stuff like that seems simple it warped my brain and kept me not having kissed a girl for extra a few years there a little more than the average yeah a little bit more yeah might be true across the board to

the requirements and structure of like we have to get this done in a certain number of shooting days and also like it has to be two or three acts or whatever yeah influence the way you thought about love yeah oh we all did yeah yeah just you I don't mean to put it on you to stay on full house for a little bit yeah

so that's kind of the kind of the biggest story I guess is Michelle becoming princess for the day because now she truly does have royal reign over specifically the magic kingdom mostly although i guess they go to other places um one thing that i like is the way um characters are around all the time like disney suited characters and face characters like snow white um you know they're pushing the grand floridian in this one that's where uh the tanners stay and just like as the show goes on

snow white follows them back to the hotel like she leaves the gates of the the magic kingdom that's how she in general is like kind of solving the family crises and getting real mixed up in their interpersonal politics. Besides that people are just having little sidebars with the characters. Chip and Dale are... Roasting. Roasting on Becky. Yeah, being very rude in the wake of her being ghosted by uh by her love jesse yeah that's not fair what would they be saying about her now for god's sake i mean yeah but she's turned to a life

of white collar crime yeah what what pantomime insults would they have today yeah um anyway this is another like way that these shows incorrectly calibrated my expectation where i thought thought that you go to Disney World and you become friends with the characters. They hang out with you. They follow you around. If you're bringing some personal strife to the parks, they're helping you solve it. Yeah, no, that is what struck me here. And I do think that gave me unrealistic expectations. We've talked many times on the show i think i think i think my initial expectation was that goofy would just be working there that the characters were so much

more active at the park i guess in my way doing like manual labor but uh this is a different version of it where they're just very engaged and they're they have like free reign to go anywhere um so it is a little bit it is a it is a little bit more fun to see kind of what i maybe expected uh by re-watching all this stuff characters more involved in your personal like i want them involved in my personal life i want them all to know what's going on with me personally well it's you know you recently engaged mike and it's like it's a bum i just you know be i know the timeline and i know that you weren't going to the parks a lot in the lead-up to this because it was pandemic and i'd like to think that you like took a trip to disney world wanted to ask lindsey couldn't

find the right moment we're sidebarring with uh captain hook and um i uh tigger about yeah yeah sure of course yeah in all all ways of love you want peter pan's thoughts on it but then ultimately culminating in an extremely ornate fireworks display like the most complicated fireworks display in history well i reunited my band second level from high school in front of disneyland's castle and i played the song i played in high school called rock the house uh yeah kyle you know about second level i've heard yeah yes man i've heard it mentioned i've heard the song mentioned specifically and i feel like you've sung the chorus maybe before has it has have we heard have you played it yet has it been circulated or i haven't played

the original recording of it but i played a little bit of it on guitar it wasn't a very good uh re uh it wasn't great didn't sound yeah we made you play it live yeah yeah but there's also a live performance from a variety show too in high school oh wow that's great man i want to say congratulations again on all the rock the house stuff oh yeah thank you yeah uh it was it was a big the audience loved it at the time i'll say that i'm sure it sounds awesome yeah yeah it was how much mileage like this is like a year of your life where you're getting where you're getting mileage out of rock the house or how how how long was this a hit for uh it's a good question i was probably there's probably a period in like two there's probably a couple months there in 2001 and then it was like sort

of dormant and ever since i brought it back up on the podcast now i'm getting a little more again oh sure sure so it's been a 20-year gap it's beautiful that's like a song like a an album kind of bombing and then you're discovering that it has a big following in Japan or something, which happened to Jesse and the Rippers, by the way. Rock the House gave you the confidence to do well in the SATs, and then it came back around and gave you the confidence to get engaged. Right.

It was Rock the House that did it. It's Rock the House that did it, but I got help from Peter Pan and Hook and everybody. Yeah, anyway, I mean, that's the way i think they can sort of uh you know make a richer like more interactive augmented reality kind of experience is that the characters are around giving you advice and stuff yeah that's a yeah bob chapek should really work get focused on that with disney genie at least yeah yeah just have your phone like

listen to all your phone calls and read all your texts for a while right so that when you get there pinocchio is really versed in what's up with you yeah what's upsetting you at the very least genie's jack nicholson impression has some advice about how to deal with your family when you open your phone up you know trouble with your mom again huh you know uh the these shows since you mentioned dealing with your families uh these shows do present uh one way that i often am a big uh proponent of on these kinds of vacations which is like split up sometimes and everyone do their own thing although these shows really hit the because they need to do abc stories like uh multiple stories i mean um they really split up a lot like you think danny would want to do some of this stuff with his children we want to see this smiles on

their faces oh yeah and it even occurred to me that you know when he he gets a so he's having a romantic meal at the uh coral reef restaurant um which gets ruined he's trying to do a wedding proposal gets ruined by uh jesse and joey trying to go do their the first underwater radio broadcast ever with the rush hour renegades um but then he then it gets interrupted again because he gets an urgent phone call saying that his daughter is missing and i realized when that happened he's he hasn't been around for any of it he's not even aware that michelle is princess for the day like his daughter has taken part in an unprecedented disney world program never to be done again and he did he missed it 100 yeah that is shockingly negligent and i understand he has something else on his

mind but that also seems way out of character for him in general on the show he's very micromanaging yes so how does he let entire children's stories get away from them if i mean let's be honest if this was i mean i've seen there's some youtube videos reviewing like full house disney world episode now but if this were like youtube era and in the time that this came out there would be so many like cinema cinema sins or uh honest whatever's about like what the problems and the inconsistencies are on these shows like there would be like, what do you think? This is not how Danny would act. Are you kidding me?

There would be like the Red Letter Media 90-minute, two-hour Star Wars prequel reviews of these just to show the inconsistencies in the characters. Is that what those outlets do? Because I see those phrases every now and then, and I'm like, what are you talking about? I see those phrases every now and then. And I'm like, what are you talking about? I don't know what these are.

It's always, people are mad that things aren't honest, that trailers aren't honest. And that if this news report or episode of a show were honest, I thank these YouTubers for taking media to task about honesty yeah okay okay got it um so there's yeah if it's an honest portrayal of danny tanner's you know character well he would actually have seen some of michelle's reign yeah and he never would have done this they've completely betrayed the danny tanner. Okay, so you just throw aside suspending disbelief. Okay, got it. Got it. Thank you.

One of the other side plots, I don't think we've mentioned yet, is DJ. Candace Cameron's character is DJ, right? Oh, yes, absolutely. Yeah, she is constantly seeing her boyfriend Steve everywhere. Yeah. She's hallucinating, yeah.

Hallucinating, and then he does show up but the one of the early hallucinations she imagines him on the float dressed as aladdin which is an inside baseball joke because he is the voice of aladdin that actor yep yeah scott wanger this is the type of little fact as a little boy that made me feel so smart i was so self-satisfied by knowing this and like just a little chuckle like the most obnoxious like nine-year-old like i know what this is there's a lot of kids watching this but not all of them are privy to this information like i yeah i yeah i was exactly the same way snooty kid i also i remember thinking that because at that time scott weinger pretty big part like pretty major scene stealer on full house in this era also the voice of aladdin the biggest kids movie at the time didn't didn't you

think that scott weinger was going to be like a chris Pratt level star for the rest of your life. Like based on that beginning, based on 93, I thought we'd be like just knee deep and winger our whole lives. I agree. Yeah. Charming, handsome.

I don't know. I don't want to put it. I mean, he's worked, he works. Um, but yeah, yeah.

As a kid, like this was like, this was a big star to me i was just gonna say i i at a very basic level just thinking about these episodes i don't know if we're gonna touch upon it but like um the way we're used to full house presented like as a multi-cam we're now seeing like a totally different version of it and and like i guess single cam i imagine but there's something that's allowed in in these episodes that I feel like you don't get in the typical episodes of Full House, which is like there's all of a sudden like space for Adlib at like the beginning and ending of scenes sometimes. So like you'll get the sort of like, yeah, then we'll go on Haunted Mansion.

And then, oh, and then like they'll do their real line. I don't know if you caught any of these moments, but there are a handful of them in all the three episodes we watched. But there's just something so disorienting about seeing the show look different than what you've you've come to expect. Sort of like, Scott, do you remember the Saved by the Bell, the wedding wedding the one where like zach and kelly get married it's like all of a sudden they've neglected the way we've like seen this show presented and and it feels alien the whole the whole thing feels alien to some degree to me i don't know if you all felt that it's weird it's them out of their elements yeah you're totally right like yeah rhythms are different they give characters stuff now i don't think i have it written down whatever

um dj and kimmy say when they're coming down the stairs in the grand floridian i posted an instagram of this like truly like years ago but yeah it's just like then we're going but it's some ad lib about like roller coasters and then then, yeah, they spot Steve like checking in the hotel. Like, oh, yeah, it was so scary. Yeah, that's pretty much what it is. And then it was going up so high and I didn't think we could make it. Oh, look. Staged interruption.

That was really fun. I like Splash Mountain though. Oh, yeah. That was a lot of fun. I thought it was really cool too. Oh, my gosh. I must be really losing it. Yeah, just out of the tone is so weird i step by step is the one that felt the weirdest to me this feels like a weird handheld verite step by step going on and that's like i don't know what to like this doesn't and i was never

a big step-by-step watcher but i was like this really felt kind of unnerving what's that one i mean you know i think we could jump around there's yeah there's the one scene in uh they're in the hotel room it's when the uh the the country group has been formed they rehearse once briefly and then break up immediately that scene the audio is so wretched it's really which you never see on a sitcom of this nature for any criticism you might have of it they're always uh very solidly made they're always extremely clean so yeah it's weird to hear yeah what is also a problem yeah very when stefan is transformed back to Urkel at the ending of the Family Matters saga, there is so much coat rub on the lav mic consistently for like a handful of lines that it's pretty awesome. Like, I didn't know if like I was getting some HBO Max special edition of the episode like unaltered. I was like, this couldn't have aired.

Maybe, though, like I didn't know this was uncharted't have aired maybe though like they didn't know this was uncharted territory for all these shows they didn't travel they didn't know how to do this it does feel though like in the old days you know you watch movies not even that old movies sometimes and you go oh this whole scene seems like it's 80 yard which means that they had to redo like the sound i mean they always redo sound effects but they redid the dialogue and you can see it's like doesn't quite match the mouths that was an option to do here and they said you know what fuck it

yeah who gives no kids doesn't give they don't give a shit yeah that is weird it isn't super 80 yard yeah for sure yeah was there just too much interventions like actual attraction noise in the background for them to have like a backup boom

mic recording the dialogue too it's just too many say no we tried we did have that audio track for everyone talking on a boom but there was too much sega genesis click clacking in the background we didn't let us close the sonic games no yeah we could not close the vector man displays i'm kidding i guess if we're gonna if we're gonna move from full house the only thing i want to mention that i i had fully forgotten and is special is the is joey at the animation studios and seeing the boy animated joey come to life which is who's doing the voice for the cartoon joey because joey does voices but it doesn't sound like him am i wrong is it i think it might be him okay okay it's just a it's an odd choice he's definitely like suddenly he's um super brooklyn-y out of

nowhere he's a little like brooklyn pipsqueak kid who yeah just to set the scene you know they used to have the the animation tour at disney mgm studios and kind of without explanation joey is just like walking and talking on the floor with an animator who he's like good friends with seemingly i think it's one of the major ones his name's mark i think that's mark finn who did jasmine um but don't quote me on that mark hen maybe is what i read oh that's that might be right yeah that sounds all right anyways uh he offers him some coffee uh joey asked if he could get some crazy cartoon stuff the guy says i think coffee will do uh and then he's left alone to start doodling.

He draws a cartoon version of himself, which comes to life, is drawn in simple pencil-drawn form. And then you get the hijinks of Joey adding new parts to him and him bending and squishing and squashing. And this is a show that doesn't full house doesn't have magic otherwise doesn't get surreal yeah no no it's maybe the first time ever so to see some disney magic sprinkled into full house is a lot of fun um and that specific stuff that he's that a cartoon joey is saying like hey down here uh you're you're new at this right now that you mention it could you draw me a couple of aspirin

i just didn't catch that i add not to reference the thing that people have not seen yet but i was certainly it's it's very little bruce is it not sure sure sure yeah uh a tease for the show i kind of wish in hindsight they could have just taken this little character and just made him like Joey's Great Gazoo going forward, where he was like a cartoon character over Joey's shoulder

the rest of the episode. You know what it's remembering, and I don't know, I feel like Scott, we might have brought this up when we were working on this show saturday saturday morning all-star yet sorry to plug the full title but these straight to video cassettes mcgee and me do you do you all are you aware of those i don't know those they're uh they're christian as i recall and uh it's it's a similar setup i believe where like

it's a cartoon character who's like maybe first drawn and then pops out of the page and becomes like this kid's best friend but the characteristics match this joey thing so could be something to do a side by side if anybody has any time i don't know i'm just just coming to me right now sure yeah pair contrast of young joey cartoon joey and mcgee and me yeah um i totally agree though that yeah there's like because he doesn't have a kid of his own and i can think he continues to not um on fuller house so if he if his child essentially is the little joey that he drew one day um and he cares for him he stays that age always. He never grows up like

other kids. Just like Joey himself never grows up. With his cartoon voices and all. The little guy can feud with the puppet. They're jealous. Oh, the Woodchuck puppet? What was his name? Who was the Woodchuck?

Wasn't it Mr. Woodchuck? It was just Mr. Woodchuck. Oh yeah, I think so yeah yes yeah okay yeah ranger joe and mr woodchuck and then of course there was the jackalope on america's funniest people well that's a whole other no no no no no that's this we're recording out of order i i'll i'll confusingly the episode will come up before this i'm planning on bringing up the jackalope i hadn't thought about the jack oh wow year the jackalope is weird right that's a this is this other dave coulier show that was kind of

his america's funniest home videos erin called it out she's like this is basically this is like they're trying to do caddyshack and the goopher. Oh, yeah. I've not watched a Jackalope segment in probably two decades, so I'll have to. I'll have to get on that. Forest animal terrorizing. This show was strange. This is a show that aired for three seasons and yet no one recalls. Do you remember that? America's Funniest People.

Funniest People. Yeah. It would air on sunday nights with america's funny song and it was dave coulier and tawny katane yeah correct you know we're taking care of it now we can just uh maybe we don't have to do it a week ago um i'm so confused by the timeline do it anyway all right apologies for more america's i was i was just you know the jackalips back in my life and i'm happy to be talking about him again full house real quick i'll just say this is going back to the jesse and the rippers thing real quick like and this is no put down of what i'll say that they should be doing but jesse and the rippers should be playing at like the stage outside of earl of sandwich that would have been a much more realistic place and again i'm not putting there's great bands that play there but that would have been more much more realistic place. And again, I'm not putting there's great bands that play there,

but that would have been more realistic for him going to Becky. Like, we have a great gig. We're playing seven times a night out by the Earl of Sandwich in downtown Disney. That is where cover bands actually play. Right. 20-minute sets, and that's

what we're, they should have had the whole climax of the episode happen there, not in front of the castle but that concert is like unbelievable right I mean with the white piano like it has the vibe of like it's a live aid or like a

you know one of the last Freddie Mercury concerts or something like this is like this is an unbelievable show that they're putting on that culminates in fireworks i really love that little like mumbled this is this is something for all the dreamers out there or he does but it's not when you wish upon a star it's a dream is a wish your heart makes yeah yeah right right a very breathy version of a dream your is a wish your heart because jesse's hot he's so sexy he has to he can't there's

no way to do a not sultry version of something no he oozes sultryness and again that fireworks display that is like how does it work like so again like danny tanner's been trying to propose to his fiance

all time struggling to find a way. And it seemingly within the course of several hours communicates with the Disney company and allows for the creation of the most complex block of firework text ever made that isn't flashing on and off. It appears once, but it's not attached to wires or a framework or anything it's just the floating words vicky will you marry me that just stay in the sky unbroken for seven seconds or so yeah i do think this and i think i'm being serious i do think this made me think you could do this in real life and yet you didn't do it for your own marriage proposal well i inquired and such an iconic just the setup of the guy constantly trying to uh to ask the question and get interrupted i feel like we need a super cut of the like would you uh like to go clogging with me i don't know what i don't know what happens in the german area but

it's pretty it's actually pretty infuriating that he can't just say it yeah yeah by context clues she should understand like it's an important question that he's tried several times to ask i was impressed by her performance because i didn't recall how this concluded and she kind of plays it like and go either way for a second i think she played the drama of that scene very well so congrats do we know that actor's name offhand who played vicky i don't know vicky offhand um and i always felt bad that it didn't work out like um i was rooting for him i liked vicky a lot and uh it kind of deflates this whole episode to know that it didn't uh yes it does and that he spent all that money that you know getting close

to six figures i would think to make that display and uh he didn't get a bride out of it and all those itineraries he made there was a line earlier where he made everyone itineraries that wasn't cool everybody yeah threw away the itineraries immediately. Yeah, they wanted to do their own thing. Now, granted, most of the adults are wearing business casuals, so they're not going to go too nuts that day. Yeah. Joey's wardrobe in that, by the way, very bizarre.

It's like... Oh, yeah. Collared shirt with wacky pattern, but then blazer and shorts into shorts yeah yeah sport coat and shorts which was really i mean i i didn't even pick up on that outfit until his kind of emotional sit down with stephanie where he's like hyper serious in that it's like he's like a clown that's trying to dress up essentially yeah like a real it's it's very sincere as and then just whenever it cuts to the two shot just like big old man leg up on that

bench when we were talking about like how this the sensibility of these tgif shows influenced my work our work whatever. I don't even know how I can articulate what this is or what this type of joke is or why it resonates with me, but in the midst of a moment when DJ

claims to see Steve and he's not actually there, I believe Stephanie says something to the effect of like, Up next, women who hallucinate in theme parks on the next Oprah. I don't know why. I guess I just like that it's like, this feels like it's like a daring joke for them to some degree.

You know what I mean? They're like making a comment on TV culture. It's like contemporary and hip to some degree you know what i mean they're like making a comment on tv culture it's like contemporary and hip to some degree even though i don't know that like oprah is necessarily known for that like kind of maury povich jerry springer style like you know that she would bring that up like that would be a subject of an episode but maybe it was in like 1993 but yeah i guess these are these kids are like cool and clever and versed in television and they're able to to like uh riff to in reference to like a dennis miller degree even though they're only 16 that's how tv brained you're right and i love and like i

can't in step in the step-by-step. And I can't even think of the references that are that are are thrown out there, even though I might have in my notes. But this mix of one thing that I've always been obsessed with, like I want to say Flash when we get to. I mean, I'm very excited to talk about Flash. Oh, yes. Flash. Yeah. But the episode Flash is making some he's making some reference about like what is america because he wants to win set this regain the record um for america anyway he's like americans like our mom americans like the butt master which is as i saw it is like clearly an analog for the thymaster which suzanne summers was a um spokesperson for yeah yeah and this is what i like why is it that oprah exists but the thymaster

doesn't and this is something that i that i picked up on saved by the bell as a child like and on these shows that I really am obsessed with, when do we get to choose the real thing and when not? You know what I mean? The inconsistency of what exists and what doesn't exist in this world. I mean, your favorite one,

I have to pimp you out to say, the band on Saved by the Bell. That's the greatest. Yes. I think it's... What is it, the Zack Attack episode when... They have a band. The band is

playing in the garage. The manager of the Beach Buddies runs past them, hears them playing, and essentially says he wants to, you know, I don't know, give them a record contract or whatever, but he's like, they're like, oh, you manage the beach buddies he's like oh yeah but the beach buddies

aren't buddies anymore but the point but the thing is like the beach boys have been referenced in this universe and yet they're kind of presenting the beach buddies as the beach boys it's like in another a show that thought about any of this would go well do we have a madonna or not or do we have to make up a madonna equivalent like they make these choices but these shows are done so slapdash that like does it matter we've already mentioned the beach boys no there can be the beach buddies also and we can make a joke about how they aren't buddies and we can make a joke playing on their name that we made up we're subverting a thing that doesn't exist yes no one cared uh at a certain time you know but now there's a line in step by step where it's like oh if this made now, there'd be so many minders on set because one of the characters go like,

we should go check out the haunted house. And like, you know, if that was shot now, there would be a Disney rep going like, you need her to say that line again so she can say haunted mansion properly. Thank you so much. Yeah, there's another one that's about like the jungle boat ride.

This is never happening today. We were asking what are second gates that we should do and loud and clear one that was said was disney fairy tale weddings the wedding show that's available on disney plus so i was i was prepping for this one in advance i was starting to watch uh some of the and there's a couple that is the first couple ever to get married in pandora and uh pandoran wedding um but civaco civaco indeed uh but they it's just funny hearing this couple these very like regular people have to say and we are so excited to be the first couple to get married in pandora the world of avatar with no one even the biggest the biggest pandora fan by that i mean mike is not regularly saying Pandora, the world of Avatar.

No, but I will from now on if that's what they want me to. Sure. Make sure you do. I'll call you on it if you don't say it. Maybe I misheard, but I just did a double check. Suzanne Summers had the Thighmaster and the Buttmaster. They were both perfect. Oh, okay.

So I was misinformed. Okay. So the Butt master is a real thing yeah i'm looking at it right now because i but it's weird to bring it up because it's less okay yeah there you have it okay yeah i'm i fully am i feel bad about that i'm sorry i didn't sound this isn't gotcha journalism on my part i just i was just trying to remember what what it was um but it does sound like a thing and your point still stands that this was happening all the time where it was like why not just say that no you know mike no i

it doesn't stand did i feel bad oh man i shouldn't have told you about the button i'm so sorry no no you're right the butt master does sound it does sound like a 90s joke like right for sure that's right and it's less famous than the thigh master so they shouldn't have said something that wasn't going to read immediately they can't count on everybody looking it up on on a website after the fact right that was i also love you sharing your screen mike and then seeing your your previously on ebay just that there were recently looked at turtles oh yeah and large turtles too expensive oh they're big yeah they were a one sixth scale or one quarter scale actually which is pretty big geez yeah that is unusually big bigger than my son you know i just you can buy a third scale of the joaquin ph Joker, which is huge. Ew. And it looks exactly, it looks so accurate.

But he's like a man. Like, why wouldn't you, I could see wanting that for, you know, Winnie the Pooh for something like cute or an animal. Why would you want a guy? You're asking a good question, but they obviously think there's a market for it. So it exists. You're considering that one. It's it exists you're considering that one it's about a grand you can buy it well it's a good thing to have if you want to like give anyone you're thinking about dating a

major red flag as soon as they come in your apartment that's a good point um there's one more of those little sentence interrupters, Kyle, where you... Okay, so one thing to mention, you watch the entire Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular fold out. Not the entire show, I guess, but the full Boulder sequence happens over the course of five minutes. And that's another great thing about these episodes for these shows. We can kill a bunch of time. Let's just show all of Indiana Jones in the boulder let's show a big concert like we're gonna burn through these two episodes in no time uh in this case dj's hallucinations are continuing she uh believes that she is seeing

her boyfriend steve as indiana jones then when the stunt happens and he gets run over by the boulder and i'm sure i referenced this in our episode about this stunt show the entire audience gasps because they buy the gag 100 and dj stands up and says steve no silence one believes you're actually here awesome love it love these this this mechanism of try having to save the sentence this is only in sitcoms and movies but i think we should all yeah i also caught how it was fascinating because like you're right the stunt had concluded essentially he pops up and then you would expect the audience to applaud she gets the steve comment out but there's still like an awkward silence until there's a sound cue that's like and then the audience applauds i just don't believe that everybody is going to be fully silent for DJ to,

to question where Steve is. To say that entire thing. I don't think that the show was timed out to have just like a six second, like it is Indiana Jones dead where there's no music cue accompanying it. I'm sure you, we all noticed. I mean, this almost exact sequence,

it feels, it feels like was repeated for step-by-step like moment by moment. Yeah. Full thing. Again, entire, we got to go through the spikes. We got to,

we, I like that. They play the tension of the trading out the idol for the bag of sand or whatever. Like they do Indiana Jones's tension as if it's the character flash or Steve's tension. But like it is like, it's a fake stunt show,

right? He doesn't need to make the trade out as much as Indiana Jones does. It was fun though. It seemed like kind of from an actorly place, kind of Steve and Flash's versions of Indy. I think both of theirs deserve merit. I might actually take Flash over Steve. I hate to say it.

Flash is good. Flash is really good. Flash has a purpose. He has more of a reason for being there. He's got the energy. Flash has a little more energy as far as that performance i guess too i love flash so much i think maybe we go out with flash i think maybe flash concludes the episode i think it's the peak of narrative content at disney world so let's let's shift over to family matters the episode we're going to disney world

uh the two-parter that began on april 28th 1995 um overall this might be my favorite and maybe this is just uh my love of urkel that mike has pointed out uh poking through i yeah you know what i think it's not only my love of urkel it's my love of carl winslow yes reginald veld johnson i think reginald ve Veld Johnson is the strongest performer on any of these shows. I think that's the reason why it's easier maybe to watch A Family Matters than some of these other shows. He's just so

charming and fun. When he's happy, you're happy. When he's mad, you're scared. I love... I'm just in for whatever Carl Winslow's going through. I completely agree i i wrote the note down that like carl is also the most happy to be here of all the characters in all the episodes we watched as well which is fun to see carl's the most excited so it's like it is

fun to like live through the carl's enthusiasm the the actors playing his wife and mother are also very good like i re-watching it i like, the grandmother's really funny on this show. I forgot about that. Yes. Rosetta Lenoir, I believe, is so funny. And maybe another thing to say, but I think all of the way that I say that all of these episodes are the same. They all start with like a scene or two back in the regular set just to acquaint you. And you have to figure out how to get the characters to Disney World.

Usually it starts with just two of them are going to do it and then everybody gloms on or it's a good thing where I'm inviting everybody. In this case, the impetus is that Urkel has been invited to participate in an inventor competition at epcot center and he is inviting everybody in not his family to go with him well he's inviting all of his neighbors but not his girlfriend right oh yeah wait my yeah why isn't myra and that is strange that was strange I mean like how many plus ones does one get in one of these in interventions contests because that's how many people

that was like 7, 8 I don't even know how many it's not like the Oscars where you maybe only get a date it's more like the Miss America pageant where you want to bring an entire fan section for yourself. It's like Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

where you get a table, but you have to pay for the table, maybe. They're mad every year. Steve Miller took them to task. That's right. This isn't the Rock Hall podcast. Sorry. I would just start doing the Rock Hall podcast. Sorry, sorry. No, I would just start doing the Rock Hall podcast.

Everybody's excited except for Carl words were i never got to take little carl to disney world and then he died um and that is moving enough that carl realizes that he needs to do the family trip to put work to the side, and then the mom quietly admits that that was a made-up story and that never happened. That rascal. In addition to the inventor's contest, the justification for getting them to Disney World in this show involves lying about a dying man's last words.

So, it's a pretty funny dark joke. Like they say, he died years before disney world opened oh yeah oh i love that flippant way that like he died way before that place was ever built there is so much lying going on on all these shows like week to week the amount of lies characters tell each other and not little stuff big stuff weekly is always impressive to me going back to watch that's true that's kind of the that is sort of the like central mechanism of a lot of sitcoms is people like keeping up ruses huge thinking that they can't yeah yeah that require them to like play parts and pull in people in their lives now you have to be this part you gotta pretend to be my cousin or my wife or whatever

um even though like every scam unravels they just keep doing it and doing it yeah i was i mean like i don't know if this falls into that same category but i was really disappointed in laura for for messing with the chamber like that yeah no that felt like very wrong to me as it was happening like this felt like such a big deal for for steve and uh yeah that's incredibly selfish and credit like that's like a like relationship ender for like oh you did something that will like prevent me from going back to who my normal self like that's a's a crazy thing. I'm trying to think of, like, a real world equivalent. Yeah, say you were on a trip and you, like, had a car and somebody, like, I cut all the tires on your car so you would stay here longer.

You'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Why would you do that? Like, I get, like, that's sweet that you want me here, but obviously, like, something's wrong. That's a misery situation yeah yeah that's like a fatal attraction yeah there's also like some weird dynamics in this of like the psychosexual politics of like stefan and laura and the myra and steve and it's like well if he changes his dna if it is another person but an only person who exists occasionally like it's like oh bizarre bizarre

to wrap try to step back and wrap your head around this thing that no one was probably really thinking about that much in the writer no you know as kyle was saying with the logic of pop culture references i just love that these shows in there who cares let's get it done we got to go to lunch and like give us these riddles that we've been unpacking since we were 10 years old maybe you just still do feel bad about the butt master stuff okay i'm sorry i'll cut it out no no you don't have to but immediately i'm like i'm living the fantasy of like somebody listening to me talk like go off on the butt master like whoa no this is not right and the kind of thank god moment that like Mike and I am thankful that

you looked that up no I'm sorry I feel now I feel bad because I didn't want to but like I don't want to make no no every the world might not know about the butt master and you know I didn't need to tell them it was too good to be true the idea that that flash would make up an apparatus called the butt master in terms of like all that makes America great that's a stand in for the real invention that is

hawked by the star of the show um really go either way it but it is also worth mentioning that it's like oddly an oddly patriotic c story to just stick into that sitcom and disney world yeah um look kyle the degree of knowledge and accuracy and getting stuff right on this podcast is exceedingly high almost never yeah i've never broken so but we we will forgive you in this this instance but

uh we're trying to i appreciate it i'm glad i'm glad that you that that you checked me on that and we didn't have to have like ongoing sitcom hijinks where we created a world where we're pretending that that was oh yeah well i don't for years i don't want to be talking about like and then there's the episode where he says butt master it's gonna follow you around every youtube comment car the dragula for the longest time and then i was shamed for it and yeah you know well it's best if we can be our own regulators and do the shaming for each other we are our own ombudsman yeah i also thought maybe i'd say butt master it's real and then there would be a riff or two i you know i was thinking maybe

you know so i wasn't even maybe totally in correction i wasn't even thinking correction wise i was just thinking oh did that exist you know but well was it familiar was it familiar to you did it make did you remember it all was it like, I just want to look up Buttmasters. Vaguely familiar. Vaguely familiar. And I was like, I wonder that does sound, because there were so many those 90s at home things you would, like your mom would buy.

I don't know my mom in a Buttman. My mom still has this weird saucer thing she exercises on that she bought from late night TV. Do you think she'd be upset that you were even like bringing up the possibility that she had the butt master i don't think so but you never know i'll say that i don't think so that's why all the whole butt master thread will get pulled from the episode not an accuracy issue but yeah it's like

i run into an issue yeah the butt master does exist folks it was real and you can buy it on ebay it was real it does i mean in the way that it does sound like a cheap sitcom toss-off joke it does very clearly sound like the thigh master was a hit and they're like well we need something else we need something else what else you got You know, and they really quickly rushed it out. It'll work. You can't like put one of those things between your butt cheeks, right? That's not what it is. It's not a fun matter.

Au contraire, Scott. You can. And you will. And here's a demonstration. The thing goes in. Yeah, that little ball goes in your anus. And then. Great.

Yeah. My issue with my butt is that the cheeks aren't spread wide enough. I wish an implement could help me. Exactly. Okay. Let's explain the transformation chamber thing. Just the math of it to be very clear. And again, I just think that we were so lucky with

all these episodes all the shows are in their primes uh jesse has the band urkel has the transformation chamber he has invented a machine that we know just to be clear step by step is not in its we are post prime for step by step yeah i step by step so many characters at this point i don't i lost track of who was what whose kid but i kept going like where is the older one and it's just like oh he was kind of written out at the end of the season the nephew like oh well that's a whole yeah well that's why there is flash uh um urkel a nerd has invented a machine that you can walk into that changes you from a nerd into not a nerd anymore and in his case uh it turns him into the very suave stefan or kell who i i just want to say i really like the specific mold of cool guy that stefan or kell is it reminds it's like boys to men

and baby face and like um the vibe of the movie boomerang i haven't seen boomerang but i feel like that's kind of that's just like the the type of like gentleman that that stefan is um and it's you know look jaleel with his multi-character abilities i think he really nails it you love virkle and then like could there be somebody you love more? And I think, I don't know. I love Stefan. I love every time Stefan. And you got, you have to give props to, Laura is so infatuated with Stefan.

In a fun, in a fun, almost cartoonish way. Like when, whenever Stefan entered, like whenever he's mentioned, she's just so ready for him. It is, it's the deepest love there ever was it's like the Chase Meridian Batman thing where she's just like oh my god

I can't even imagine like I can't even hear the name or else I go nuts one Stefan thing that I noticed that maybe again is maybe it's not that peculiar and like maybe there's more information necessary, but there was a scene and I don't remember what's happening, but he's with Laura and he pulls out a wad of cash.

Do you guys recall this? Oh, it's for, it's when he's paying for the, uh, the artist who's, who's doing their, like,

um, their portraits there. Oh, like in, in the, in France and, uh. Yes, exactly. And he pulls out a lot of money, which got me

thinking, is Stefan rich? Is he richer than Urkel? Did Urkel have that money on him? But he's just so suave. Yeah. Where does that money come from? Are random women just giving him money for no reason

just to say thanks for giving me something to look at because his clothes are different yeah and is that part of the transformation so it feels yeah it feels like it's some sort of like dimensional reality altering thing it's not just making the human body different or the brain different it feels like it's actually altering reality so my i'm just this is off the top of my head i think the money is created by the machine because a cool guy like that would have more money than a non-cool and those are that's probably like yes those suits are not inexpensive that's probably like italian made like yeah so i think that the yeah the machine they don't explain it on the show but it alters reality in some way so then it it takes it away too like when he gets back in the chamber and becomes urkel again right however much money

stefan had in his wallet is eliminated and decreases. Yeah, if it's on him, but if it's left in the other world, I think Stefan could leave his sack of money outside of the machine, get into the machine, and Urkel could change back, and Urkel could take the money, because Urkel still knows he's Stefan. He has memories of Stefan. And where does Urkel go when he's stefan like where is urkel's soul well like there's a there's a you know this is a comic book uh reference but there's a thing place called the negative zone the fantastic it's kind of like uh uh it's almost like we're like a containment

unit and ghostbusters you know what is this like of not real play? It exists on some sort of other plane and it's like a limbo of sorts. Is Urkel stuck in limbo with unbaptized babies? You know? It's possible, yeah. Stefan lived there all the time. Well, with the Urkel-Stefan

dichotomy, Laura's lie isn't just breaking the machine so that he stays Stefan and doesn't turn back into nerd Urkel. You know, sure, it messes up the results of this inventor contest, but then the further ramification that, like, a soul will be gone like urkel is no more urkel just lives in oblivion now which by all you know you always make a lot out of how family matters started as a very grounded show and then became about uh inventions and time travel and stuff but this is one of the headiest this is just like a regular family police officer with a bunch of kids and now his daughter is dealing with a scenario where a soul is in limbo because of a DNA

machine. And that could affect their lives for 80 years. That's like, that's a major part of being a Winslow now. Right. Yeah. Also, how old is Laura supposed to be? Is she like 20 at this point? It's like a few seasons in. Not sure. I think that was

my guess, but I don't know. Yeah. In Step by Step, the two, the one kid and friend are like, we're saving for an apartment. And I'm like, you look like children. How old are these characters? Laura breaks

the fibulating rebobulator, which causes this live inventor contest that's happening on the floor of interventions to be delayed for three days. That's how long it'll take to. Well, I don't because nobody's working on the machine. Yeah. Arbitrary. arbitrary i i was sort of bothered by how quickly they allowed urkel stefan uh this opportunity like in what is seemingly a very organized sort of contest and it's similar to in step by step when uh karen's in this country find a a star contest where she just leaves the stage

and then she's allowed to just come back and they're like now i'm ready and then she's back in the contest similarly like all right we'll give you a few days to figure this out that just doesn't i i don't know if I, if I believe that, that reality, that, uh, whatever this, not that I know anything about this inventing contest,

but they're so quick to be on Urkel's side to prove whatever this DNA things that he has to prove. But famously you choked in your SNL audition, ran away in tears. Right now I'm ready. You went back and said, can i get an extra two days then you went and had a bunch of new york adventures came back better than ever yeah it's it is completely it feels like a florida recount in the pocket for the republicans like

which maybe you know what happens with those things are these people like hobnob at a party and now like all right well I'll remember you when the time comes and in this case Urkel did in the hotel lobby meet Martin Fisher publisher of inventors weekly

who all the head of the competition who then is the MC of it so I don't think that should have been allowed like the you shouldn't get to meet the the judge you shouldn't be able to do pratfall nerd pratfalls the second nerd pratfalls in like a five minute span with the uh supposed authority of this contest because they're both nerds and they both bonding i like even though they're not like actively bonding they're both bonding while they trip over each other. Yeah, speak an

unwritten language, you know, a secret language. Right. Dropping things. There's really good, by the way, physical comedy I think in the lobby of, in this case, the Wilderness Lodge. That's the hotel that's being pushed. Prime placement for the Wilderness Lodge and Innoventions

and Tower of Terror, all of which would have been fairly new at the time of this show. Those are good things to push. I think a couple of these, they make the characters for no reason kind of run past the sign of the new Tomorrowland at the time. I like seeing that sign.

That's another great thing about these shows. They all preserve the parks and the hotels in their mid-90s pr pristine, new, peak Eisner vibe. Yeah. Do we know what... I assume it's a Pleasure Island club. Now, this spoiler alert, later on in the step-by-step, they are at the Neon Armadillo. Correct.

Which is a big deal for us, you Pleasure Island heads out there. But do we know are they at mannequin like do we know if they're at the club in this like on a pleasure island do we know where like that contest is being oh no the contest is interventions oh wait i'm getting confused if that step by step is the is okay yes but they're yeah they are at a place somewhere at a nightclub at one that's what i'm thinking you can't really oh yes oh my god you're right that part is incredible i i didn't realize when when they're uh stefan and laura have nothing but time to go date and explore disney world oh my god that's so epic when it zooms in on that dance floor with the light up screens that spell out Stefan, Hart, Laura.

I mean, that looks like the best nightclub I've ever seen. And I would know. I know nightclubs. And according to that Pleasure Island Facebook group I read, Mannequins was the best. Maybe that was Mannequins. I don't know. People know offhand. Big light up screens that you could

have made, say, Stefan, Hart, Laura. Just watching them. Date is great. i believe that montage is set to a a cool version of kiss the girl that's another throughout these i didn't say in full house so you get to hear like the full house kind of like jamming guitar playing when you wish upon a star yeah that's great now well yeah i i mark that down because i love those uh sitcom musical interludes yeah exactly exactly yeah yeah and to hear the disneyfied versions but there was also earlier in this they do kiss the girl but there's a song that plays earlier i think maybe it's for a carl montage and i wrote down yes that song is everyday sunshine yes is that a disney song what is i don't i guess i didn't know what that was um i should have looked it up before isn't it by a oh fishbone

i was gonna say oh gotcha 90s lauren b type yeah yeah that part that sequence is the best that's the kind of thing i love where like it's not drama and stakes and characters lying to each other the point of this sequence is carl has decided he's gonna have fun in disney world and put his troubles to the side and then he just has a moment with every character uh he and donald rub their seats around they have a lot of fun then all the characters gather in a big tableau and the whole audience cheers there's just a huge hooray it's carl and the characters um there's no stakes or drama it's just you just get to see carl winslow having a blast that's really fun um i can't find a good picture of this mannequin stage, but it's possible.

You think it could be it, though? I think it's possible, because they do have a big light... Oh, oh, oh, whoa, whoa. Whoa, let me see. Let me take your guys' temperature on this. Do you think this is... That's a big light screen, yeah. That looks like it might be it, right? Damn. I think there's a decent chance. Somebody correct us, please. I'll be corrected in the comments if this is wrong and it was not mannequins. I have

information about Panettas when we get to that. Oh, I want to know all Jason Panettas. I'm so excited. Oh yeah, yeah. I'm all about Panettas. Also, here's that Joker statue I was talking about. Oh, wow. Oh, that's worth $1,300. That's $200

non-refundable deposit, too. Is this like a FBI snaring situation? Are they running a sting by the product that doesn't exist? I'll take him. Look, if I buy it, I'll take him to court for entrapment. So, anyways, yeah, Stefan and Laura go on a bunch of dates. They go to the sci-fi dining theater. I like seeing that.

And then there's this massive, um, engagement ceremony. Love Stefan there. You are the sun, the rain. Oh, how much he puts into the rain. Um, I'm in love with him. I'm in love with Stefan. I'd say yes um stefan asks carl for uh laura's hand and he's maybe more primed to say yes because he's having a such a fun time he's

he's having such a fun time and this is might be relatable for uh you know certainly mike and jason maybe me maybe kyle i don't know uh the feeling of being in disney world having so much fun that maybe you think should i live in orlando should i move here forever that's what carl's grappling with yeah i can relate to that uh it's a conversation we all have a couple times week in our heads uh but yeah uh haven't pulled the trigger not yet we're all cowards not yet we're all cowardly up until jason just one day texts us and goes i did it and it's a picture of him with like keys in his hand he's in a trailer outside on the disney ground so he can vote so he can vote in the local election uh here's another one of those repeat

situations long sequence where the stakes of the episode a little scene happens in front of the elevator doors of the tower of terror then they go in and sit the elevator goes up they get the view uh there's a creepy elevator guy who says enjoy your ride and then the drop and it's scary and the same promotional footage is used of the elevator all the same stuff happens in step by step they do every beat of this the same direction same staging uh is it the same guy yeah it's the same guy too yes um i say this indignant or something like it's a problem i i guess why is it i like the scene i like seeing my friends go on the ride i told and and the elevator operator i'm wondering like

and i'm sure we could figure this out very quickly this is an actor right this is not we're we're assuming not a a disney park employee who actually is an elevator operator or what are the odds of that do you think there might have been a guy he was really good at it all yeah some people play it up a little if they're working in the parks but this guy seems pretty picture perfect you know so you think he was this actor was hired on two separate occasions to play the elevator operator or do you think this is a one and do you think they may have shot step by step around the same time I think they were shot

for far enough from each other that that wouldn't be the case I think but maybe they had the I don't know family matters was April of 95 step by step is February of 96 so he could just be the same local actor they hired for both

or a guy who worked on the ride're a guy who worked on the ride we're a guy who worked on the ride and they're like we we need you to come back you do get people sometimes on rides where they do you know how you like you know you would spot a star at schwab's drugstore or something like you do have people you go to a ride and you go well that person on haunted mansion is like 10 times better than everyone. Everyone is good. But it does happen where you go. I saw like there was a guy who was doing the old Tower of Terror a couple years ago where he was like so good and scaring everybody and scaring like little kids in a fun way.

It was something they talked up a lot doing the Universal tour. Like when I was doing the training of it, they said, and for the aspiring actors out there, think about where you're working. You're on Hollywood's doorstep. You're trying to get discovered. There's producers on that tram every day. What? I believe the times this actually worked out for anyone was zero, I think.

But I could be wrong. People are quiet about their tour guide pass was the hall and step by step was haunted was the tower chair was in the second episode right that was in part two yeah that's another uh same thing if we're talking about the venn diagram the family matters episodes are called we're going to disney world the step-by-step episodes are called we're going to disney world yeah started getting a little lazy with the and all of it basically cribbing the format of uh what full house laid out so really you got to give the them the credit for cracking the formula full house called the house meets the mouse

is that right more inventive title i'd say yeah more inventive title i by the time they get to step by step yeah they're repeating a lot of the attractions and stuff from uh family matters the the big difference is uh in step by step they appear to be staying at the old key west resort the vacation club resort because they also i thought you would know which one it's clearly a vacation club yeah because they also they get dropped off in an old-timey car which are parked in front of some of the hotels but jane caught that the car door had the vacation club logo very small on it and i was like i think that's key west because it looks like there's a golf course outside the door. They had to push that by getting a vacation club condo, there's plenty of room for your giant family

to all travel to Disney World together. But they never mention it in this one. I feel like the other ones, they either name or at least have a big shot. Yeah, yeah. They lay on the promotion a lot thicker. What else about Family Matters before we move on? Other than that, like, I just

enjoy this one quite a bit. Well, I guess plot-wise we have, yeah, Carl deciding he wants to live in Orlando. He's going to give up the police force. And then we also have Waldo and Eddie

struggling to make their way to Orlando and hanging out with India. The con artist. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of, yeah, that's not taking place in Disney World. That's on the road to Disney World and it lasts both episodes. Kind of green screen-y. Yeah.

Yeah. That's another great, look, I jaleel i love reginald and i don't know his name offhand but the actor who plays eddie's dumb friend waldo geraldo faldo i think that's a really solid he had he was entering such a a tradition like i almost kind of follow urkel as this as the the silly scene stealer on that show totally and like i and and i'm sure but this is my own immaturity in some way and maybe you you all caught it but like his joke which is like a hundred of miles away from a little town called kenyatta i i wasn't ready for the punch line i didn't do the math and so it it played for me when the reveal was that he was referring to canada

um so some of the writing is hitting in the right way yeah i love that like the the fake deathbed story and the in kenyatta and all of the like urkel like goes behind like he he well he crashes into luggage carts outside the hotel when he's driving and that's definitely i feel like one of the big case explodes genuine laughs and all this um there's a weird line where myra calls the hotel when he's driving and that's definitely i feel like one of the big case explodes genuine laughs and all this um there's a weird line where myra calls the hotel and they can't get urkel on the phone and she says what kind of mickey mouse place are you running uh and that is an old phrase that's a very funny phrase to like have a shot like a young person in 1995 say what young person is using that describing

a hotel as a Mickey Mouse kind of place. Well, what young hip band is playing the hippie hippie shake? That's true. You know, there was a big 60s revival, nostalgic revival in the 90s. We have to think about what the coolest band

in the world would be playing in this year 1992 i don't know just make an hippie hippie shake and then we can go to lunch sounds good great great work again gentlemen that's something i was going to say about um stefan and the whole like well does urkel become stefan forever i feel like we we talked about this forever ago kyle i think there was a point where stefan split off like split the atom so that stefan could exist i feel like that's the final season the cbs season i could be wrong maybe it's also the season prior but yes they both exist and then i believe the finale is like laura choosing choosing between the series finale between

Stefan and Urkel and she chooses Urkel. Am I wrong that the very final episode of the show is about like Urkel going to space and then it's not clear if he's going to make it back or not and that maybe they left it on Oh, that's familiar, but I don't know Are you thinking? Well, I'm

the guy who claims that the butt master is a made up it's good keep beating yourself up that's what we wanted that's what we asked for i would go back in time if oracle could build a time machine i'd go back in time and stop prevent myself there would be like a thing that would come through and i would like grab the microphone out of my hand it No, I'm so happy it happened. It's the D-Butt Masterizer. He might have made it back from space. Are you thinking of the Elf

season series finale? We can find out. I think so in the unresolved nature of it. Where Elf gets kidnapped by the FBI and then they thought there would be another season and that was just just the end of the show was elf in custody well it's called lost in space part two is the final episode so um oh not also not butt master part two yeah i'm really sorry though i hope i hope you're not actually offended by that

is there a plot synopses of the second episode it does seem like I think he promises not to go to outer space again and then they I think they do Urkel and Laura kiss so I think Laura does end up with Urkel ultimately so Myra's out of the picture

completely but in this case... And there's no Stefan, it looks like. Did he get stuck in space? He left Stefan up in space? That's what happened. Yeah, Stefan was just fired into space because they didn't want to deal with the moral quandaries anymore.

Some clarity on the Stefan stuff. The permanent Stefan made several more appearances throughout the series and proposed to Laura again before the series finale. After weighing her choices in the flashback episode Pop Goes the Question, Laura chooses chose Steve over Stefan. So, it's not, I'm

incorrect that it was the finale where that choice was made. So, Stefan banished to limbo, banished to the Phantom Zone to suffer, you know, he was never asked to be born honestly you know yeah that's a raw deal you know it's crazy it's a person who starts their life at 23 or whatever like he had no childhood it's a bizarre existence that stefan erkel lives yeah he just woke up one day he just was he just was and he just was fine

urkel played god urkel was playing god let's be honest and we're better to do it than epcot center it's celebrating invention and the great minds ray bradbury this steven urkel um he uh they so Stephen Urkel. Um, he, uh, they, so Laura admits what she did in an emotional scene with heavy music in a, uh, United Kingdom gazebo. Uh, look, I sabotaged the chamber. She has to say and sell through.

Um, and Urkel agrees that the, uh, ultimately agrees that the machine is a more, uh, a moral, I believe in sort of a, a back to the future three kind of destroying the delorean situation

um forfeits the contest oh that's what that's why he says that right right okay yeah and he uh he doesn't win and neither does david lander the uppity guy with a suitcase car um it goes to the the woman with the the food processor. Which was an impressive invention. Yeah, she dumps a bunch of raw food into it. Dropped a raw chicken and carrots in there, and then it came out as a nice meal. It's arranged and plated nicely. Yeah.

Yeah. And, I mean, that's kind of that episode. Any other Family Matters observations? It's just a fun one. I like it a lot. It doesn't, yeah. That one lacks maybe in some of like more the epic like set pieces i would say but i like the uh i like the intervention i like

interventions as being a big part of it because it's so locked in time oh everybody's in the crazy uniforms like the imagination institute uh um yeah it's that kooky 90s Bill Nye that new Epcot era it's fun to see it preserved yeah interesting that it's the only one where like they think about like oh what if we just had a character whose whole thing was they're gonna have a lot of fun at Disney World that's their whole story

arc like you'd think they would have a moment like that in all of them well that's sort of in a way they they with the thin plot device that is given to flash that's almost what is happening like he it's a guy who has a like a moral imperative to have the most fun in disney world that he can have that's true it was a little hard to track step by step because at this point and even before this step by step has too many goddamn characters uh and a lot of them are very

similar yes yeah yeah i still i i want this is the one that i watch the most now by the way like in the recent past the one i've seen the most recently myself even though probably it was like still eight years ago. But yes. Is there a way to just quickly capture what is the step by step magic that I think you and I have bonded over? It's some of this stuff. I think it's a relationship with pop culture. Yeah, totally. And I've never attempted to articulate it. So forgive me that I might not. But it's like cody for instance i

think uh who's not in this episode code the sasha sasha mitchell has been let go from the show at this point he's the he was kind of the goofy scene stealer the attempt at the urkel on this show sort of a like fifth generation bill and ted wayne and go and that's i think yes he represents he his connection to like what uh i think the writers or abc or whomever like kind of what they're trying to project as like 90s cool he is he is that and i think that's one of the main things i love about the show and uh a la JT and Cody JT's world like their version of Wayne's world it's like they're

trying as a kid as a let's say 10 year old and my older brother was actually like watching Saturday Night Live and like love the Wayne's World movies this felt like okay I'm getting something cool too this is just as cool as that oh it was a way to like

kidify what teens are into totally late night a little bit cracking into tgif and like similarly like i remember this quote that stuck with me with boy meets world also a tgif show where it's like uh cory is like we're're the MTV generation. We listen to alternative rock and watch Beavis and butthead. And it like gets a massive applause or, or, or laugh from the audience. But just, uh, I feel like step-by-step has that thing where like, it almost felt cool in a way that like, uh,

family matters certainly with the introduction of stefan that felt very cool and there once we like started to see like urkel play basketball super well that was really cool and and eddie was cool but like step by step felt like the most relatable and and uh and a good a good thing going in terms of that well and that like sort of that early 90s definition of cool that like michelangelo was like everything kind of decided for us a like doofy surfer guy is the ultimate what what cool is right um it's also but i think it's then it's like the most fun to watch now because it it like almost worked really great then and much less so now like family matters just by being solid probably is it seems like the highest quality show today

but step by step you watch and just has these like jaw-dropping choices these bizarre things like you were saying this thing that we love where they just had characters who were beavis and butthead they just kind of stole beavis and butthead they just kind of stole beavis and butthead and put them on the show just two kids show up and go yeah yeah cool um but then they reference being aware that that beavis about it exists too it's just the weirdest thing ever or that they like stole wayne's world it's so weird i think what makes this episode so significant and interesting is this this this primary plot surrounding the kid Flash. We get to Disney World.

Everybody's anticipating what they're going to do. There's some... Somebody's looking at a trivia book and learns that the person who did the most rides and shops and restaurants that covered all of it in Disney World was a guy from Russia. And this character Flash hears this, who's a friend of the family, right? He's not in the family. He's just joining them. And he hears this and he's indignant. I think he even says, a Russian holds the record?

That's a disgrace. Yeah, he does say that. And the wall fell years before this this is 1996 i mean children still mad about russia we had to keep them mad they're mad we had to stay mad we're mad at them still they hacked the election this is even like flash has been introduced in the episode at this point uh after we of learn in Orlando that like it's not just going to be the fan. It's there. There are a few extensions joining the family like Jason Marsden and Flash. And I don't recall like seeing Flash on TV when the show show aired i i can't until i re-watched this show years ago

but he was definitely a replacement for cody and his introduction is so awesome to me i don't know what he's like hey you forgot your hammer like it's so cartoonish and like you're just like catapulted in this into this universe where flash exists and you're kind of like who what is happening this kid comes in with very michael j fox ripoff energy he traveled across the country to give the main character frank patrick duffy his hammer back um and then suddenly the episode is just about him and about him trying to regain the the ride record for america and like not having the show memorized years later i'm like okay so i guess at some point they gave it over to this guy flash like uh they got rid of cody because the actor is like did some

awful stuff so they had to just bail on him mid-season he's gone uh so we need a goofy guy it's flash we're gonna bring flash in and i think i assume like so they must have planted the seeds of flash slowly throughout the season to give him this big spot his first episode was the episode before this wow this is the the disney world episode is the second episode ever of flash and this actor only has one credit before all this which is one episode of full house so uh his third and fourth episodes of television ever are a massive plot using all of the rides and facilities of disney world devoted to him his fourth episode of television he's ever done is him

in an american flag jacket waving an american flag in front like with all of main street cheering him on and this is never he's brand new and i wanted to and i i again like i know we spoke briefly about who are these are we seeing background actors are we seeing park park goers in these background scenes like this like him running down main street and i couldn't help but think like the idea of like if you are a park goer in 1996 or 1995 or whatever and like you find out that they're shooting step by step and you're like oh yeah i want to be a part of that that sounds awesome and you're you're told to basically just like you're gonna you're gonna be here you're gonna root one of the main characters from step by step running along main street and it turns out it's Flash and you just have

no idea what you're seeing or interacting with really responded to that if you have a huge crush on Brandon Call like ultimate heartthrob Brandon Call and then you only get to see him super far away up by the

castle and you're like who's this guy Jeff Judeaay i've heard of jeff juday i i misremembered by the way i had always thought it was that the nephew carried that it was cody who did the like i'm trying to ride everything and that it was him who did the indiana jones i i remembered there was a character so it was probably him who did the indiana jones i i remembered there was a character so it was probably him who did the indiana jones show because a kid wanted to see it but he's got to get to the airport soon which it's also like kid don't save your favorite thing for last are you crazy do it first what if it breaks like what are you thinking kid yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah, so then in theory, he like Flash speaks to whoever is in charge

and is able to like costume change into the Indy role and then do that upcoming show. But later on, they say that he claims that they're slowed down in terms of this record-breaking run because of what happened at the indie stunt show. But it seems like it actually moved on time, if this makes any sense, because he kind of probably took that...

I'm sorry to be... If this is a convoluted point I'm making, but it's like he did that upcoming show. He spent the same amount of time performing it that he would have spent watching it. Is that accurate? Right. Yes, yeah.

If part of his duty was to watch every single show, then that's the exact same amount of time, regardless of whether it's an actor, Indy or him himself doing the dangerous stunts with no vetting or rehearsal. Yeah. It's really weird. This,

this one I think takes some of the biggest swings in terms of stuff that could never happen. I mean, this entire scenario that he sets out to get this record and it's just an indie enterprise initially that the character mark the nerdy son is helping him with but then all of the resources of disney world get behind flash and his trying to bring the record back to America. And his pro-America agenda, yeah. Yeah, all of the people in lab coats in a place called Ride Central.

Right. We're not going to let a child back there. We're going to have to, I'll go talk to Disney Ride Central and then suddenly he just is. You don't see a scene of him talking his way in or seeing if that exists. He's just there.

And then there's like an apollo 13 type crew all tensely watching every move and there's cameras everywhere this is like christoph and the truman show like we've got all every possible eye on everywhere that flash could be and it's all you know it is a lot of fun because now you get to see a guy just having fun on all the rides but with the sort of like uh the ticking clock of he's running out of the china pavilion he just had a blast at the circle vision movie and then uh the kid who never has anything to do on the show uh has a churro right there waiting for him um you know it's got like a it's got a pace to it there's a clock on it yeah i i one line I wrote down, just maybe which

falls in line with whatever I was getting at in terms of this being representative of a cooler hour kind of watered down Wayne's world or whatever he does coming off the teacups flash says something to the effect of like,

the G-forces have my stomach set to hurl. On hurl. the g-forces of the teacups like hurl i think is just the perfect kind of encapsulation of like oh as a 10 year old like okay this show's actually cool if they're saying the word hurl they're talking about gross stuff stuff we all do they're willing to address it on tv they talk like my friends and i talk all right this relates to me as an adult he drops so hard because he basically does like a trust fall like he's passing out and goofy catches him and he gets so low to the ground before goofy catches him i was so impressed with that like he

he like chris farley style like physical like threw his body down and he really trusted that goofy to catch him and goofy did but i would wonder if there was like another take where he like cracked his head on the cement flash trying to make a good first impression you know he's giving it his all he's on his second or third gig you know yeah it's pretty he does really carry it for having not really been on tv before he's the star of this episode and big locations he's really got to sell all this stuff yeah is he i mean like you get the idea that he works for patrick duffy in that first scene right i mean like i guess like if you showed this to somebody who's never seen the show, yeah, he

passes it all. This could be the star of the show. He seems like he's always been there, yeah, even though he just showed up in a construction hijinks episode, the prior episode to all this. He sells some great

topical jokes. This be the the the if we don't get this back it'll be the worst thing that happened to america since roseanne sung the national anthem yep that feels very tiny tunes like they're trying to like everybody's pushing roseanne is weird when did roseanne sing the national anthem 90 is that a joke five years that five-year-old joke already i I think so, but again, that's as up-to-date as you're getting on this. ABC programming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because the rest of the show,

I feel like all these shows are just really littered with Chia Pet and the Clapper and all that sort of stuff, which I guess is vaguely recent. Buttmaster. And let's say it, Buttmaster. to shift things over to suzanne summers to carol we were talking about this about their this is the in they get the horniest plot

in this episode frank and carol uh duffy and summers are trying to uh you know basically they were trying to take a uh uh an trip, and then it got ruined because his mom showed up and said, I'm dying soon. I want to take everyone to Disney World. Horrible thing to happen. So they're just so pent up and horny. But Suzanne Somers is trying to find ways for them to break off and have a little fun. Somebody brings up peter pan oh that's a kiddie ride oh i don't know a slow moving fantasy ride in the dark

we all know this the sexiest ride you could ever if there is a place where you were gonna what would the show say do the nasty that that might be too much i'm sorry i feel like we i feel like cody may have done like uh i've never i've never done the sideways monkey dance the horizontal mambo though i will say i did make note that like uh i was kind of taken aback that in in the beginning of the episode jt in reference to his parents flirting says something to the effect of like you guys are too old to have sex anyway and just hearing the word sex was off-putting i thought yeah 9 30 the gloves come off yeah i guess so yeah i yeah they you would think there would have been a euphemism there yeah at least they would the oldest daughter would say like i have sex mom okay i have sex

do you have a problem with that i don't know i guess that was like the the maybe that was the core idea of the show we are gonna right we're gonna address stuff and be uh sort of uncomfortable throughout. The boys trying to lose their virginity, that's alluded to. This is the night they're gonna run this con where JT pretends that he's JT Disney and this will

be the path to them both losing their virginity together. You're everybody's dream with their best friend of course yeah yeah yeah yeah like that scene in fargo yeah um they go to uh i alluded to this earlier panettas they paid the bill at this very expensive restaurant no restaurant ever existed at disney world called panettas that was a fake sign made this is fake the building is it was called the portobello yacht club now it's called taralina and what is now disney springs but yeah here's

here's the back to the butt master point nine dragons is referenced and that's real a real a real epcot restaurant in in in the world showcase and panetta's is not so again they're inconsistent logic in this episode where it's like why not just use thank you for that real real places why is that where a disney person jumped in and go like don't don't go around talking about things being too expensive for people at disney world that was probably their logic is because they have to say it is expensive. That's why I looked it up. The girl's really whiny about it.

Like, we want to go to Panetta's, but it's way too expensive. And I was like, that can't be. They would never allow that to be said about a real restaurant. I will say, I am impressed by this hustle. Like, claiming yourself to be JT Disney is is funny to me that's like a cool idea yes yeah that's a funny thing to do like did he had to think on his feet about like what is the

relation is he the grandson did he have to like spit out facts about him or like what he made in the will or like what his shares are at this point. Yeah. How would you prove that other than with like a limo, a local Orlando limo company? Yeah. In 1996, it'd be much harder to prove. And like the Disney kids and cousins, like there's a lot of them.

There's a lot of grandkids and cousins and stuff. What would he could have like, you guys like sign his name like Walt? Yeah. See, that's how I sign we all do it also like I mean

I'm assuming you guys made this connection maybe not as deep or as interesting as Steve is to Aladdin the cartoon but Jason Marsden is a heavy Disney voice actor and was the I don't know if he had done Max Goof

at this point but maybe that might have come out or was like about to or same year yeah I'm not sure when Goofy Movie came out he had a really funny moment I didn't even write it down that like felt like it could be improvised it could have been scripted but I thought was like oh that's funny

I think it's like he walks past Captain Hook maybe and he's like, he walks past captain hook maybe. And he's like, love your movies by the way. Yeah. It's like, he, he definitely performed it in an off the cuff way.

I was like, okay, he's, he's got some chops. He's funny. Yeah. He's just very pro. He's just like very Broadway pro.

Well, he can hits his mark. Every movement has purpose. Just this really good. It's a really good Marsden scott yeah i got a marsden i got a muslin in the pocket because i thought my use of that i think nobody had nobody had anything to say about my uh here's your hammer back i'm so i'm sorry we didn't say it before it's a great I do Marsden you do Judea we can we cover the gamut if anybody wants to grab a Christopher Castile it's the balls in

your court I'll workshop it up at the laugh factory I don't know yeah what's open Panetta's go to Panetta's does a stand-up night go a big thing we've not gotten to speak too much about that I thought was really fun was Karen's whole plot and the song

Girls With Guitars I thought was something of note. Mom's worry. Girls With Guitars. Does this predate the Dixie Chicks do you think? Or is this at the same time? Because it felt like that's what...

They were not popularized, I think. But maybe they were quiet on the rise. But they certainly hadn't hit yet. Before Natalie... I know they were around before Natalie Mainz joined the band, which is sort of the part that made Skyrocket of them. But apparently, they were around since 89. The original, the other two.

Oh, okay. Oh, I gotcha two oh yeah this song is great so uh the all the girls are hanging out together at pleasure island which it's great to see pleasure island that is prime big jessica rabbit way in the back on a sign um so many clashy styles of buildings it's just awesome to see uh uh karen one of the daughters who is has pursued country music before gets a flyer which she reads in a very like marcia brady stilted country music competition this friday top prize gets 500 music scouts in audience guys we have to do this maybe also like like a live band accompaniment there is like some

phrase in there that it's like provided give chord changes if you can only do one verse chorus and bridge guys we have to do this every every competitor allowed to walk off and disgrace once and then come back that's to be fair that's how I read the Rules of the Coffin Challenge to Anthony Gio at Six Flags Fright Fest. Spend three days in a coffin and you can't stand up except for peeing breaks? We have to do this. Top prize is $600. Anthony, what are we waiting for? Yeah, they work up a little country act they rehearse this song

girls with guitars which is a winona judd song oh okay this is a song that exists it is i looked it up yeah yeah girls with guitars exists um girls with guitars it will be in my head forever having watched this they do a scene with horrible sound back in the hotel room the band breaks up immediately but then they join her ultimately for the big show with the neon armadillo she really eats shit on try one and then crushes it on try two

how do you as all of you perform to some degree how do you deal with scenes in television film like this with the like the person getting on stage and um in this case her her vision we we we get her perspective and her vision blurs and like she just can't get the words for step by step yeah yeah do you i'm just having yeah what you're like psychological if it just doesn't bother

you or it does bother you as a performer on that level I don't know I feel like any time I've seen that usually it's before someone takes the stage or like I feel like usually just adrenaline kicks in like even if you're nervous you know I've never watched anyone like run off stage and then come back and do it again you know yeah yeah even in like your like 101 improv like class performance nobody you like i've never seen anyone flip out like this usually just somebody says something dumb like yeah you're saying like that it is it is maybe uh kind of like the trope is that they'll just be like a full minute of silence and people glaring and yeah fuzziness less i was commenting on like the reality uh versus what we're seeing like i guess i'm just as somebody who goes i get

nervous when i see these well maybe like i'm fearful i guess i'm just wondering if it stresses you guys out was kind of what i was getting i see uh i do have nightmares like this like i don't i feel like i get a little nervous before i go on stage but um not to this level but i do have dreams where i'm on stage and don't know my my lines or don't know what to do yes yeah not being prepared yeah for sure i don't know that like seeing this now without something i'm nervous about that's in the arena doesn't stress me out necessarily you weren't nervous okay because i like i guess it maybe put too much uh of my own um mental and and uh like an investment into the performance

of Girls with Guitars. I did really want it to go well. Yeah. As a kid, for sure, stuff like this would stress me out. I think I've said this before on the show. One of my favorite movies seeing in the theaters as a kid was the Lassie movie from 1993 or 4

was because there's literally no conflict at the end.'s no like stressful thing so i can relate even especially being a kid anything like this would really stress me out to like feel like the character is having sort of a breakdown i also had an anxiety attack in real life a couple weeks ago so i really i guess oh it's i guess if now that you're pointing it out and if i were to rewatch it, I might actually feel a little more stressed out by it. I didn't mean, I don't want to do that to you.

No, no. But it's an interesting question, because it is something I don't think about in the context of performing until I had an audition or I'm doing a show. Are we saying that Girls With G with guitars is a chillingly accurate representation of the performer spotlight is it like the most gripping what it is like to be in that position well it's no it's really not any different from b rabbit choking in eight mile it's like almost the exact same thing.

So if that has a ton of merit, or did when that came out, I don't see why we shouldn't maybe give that. He does get a second chance, right? He comes back and kills it, if I'm remembering Just like Karen. Just like Karen, yeah. She comes back, she feels great.

I mean, like, she's, immediately you see her confidence on stage when she comes back the second time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not even a ramp up it goes great it cuts around to everyone in the family and a bunch of like weirdos there for a country music new star night yeah the grandmother's french side piece like a stranger she met oh yeah speaking of lassie lassie's jie, Lassie's June Lockhart. Lassie's June Lockhart, God bless her. Yes. She was on Lost in Space as well, right? Oh, that's right.

Yeah. Who ultimately solves the problem of, solves Frank and Carol's main problem of that they can't find anywhere to have sex because she offers up her condo which is so it works out great they get to sneak away on the last night to his mother's Kissimmee condo and have sex in her bed while she because

she's hooking up with a French guy at his place presumably I think the sound just I like the sound of Jason Sheridan's Kissimmee condo, don't you? Sounds pretty good if you say it out loud. Well, maybe one thing to mention also, just like the rush to do everything at Disney World within four days. Sounds like a job for Mike Carlson.

Do you think you could get the record? Absolutely, I do. I absolutely was thinking about this because there's going to be an upcoming episode whenever disney genie launches and i'm going to compete against the app to do the most stuff in a day it's like what's the what's the chess program deep blue oh deep blue gary casper i'm gonna beat deep blue basically planning but yes i was watching this going i bet i could do this and i bet i could do this quicker and i could like bring home a bigger victory for america for a character who people have spent a lot more hours with flash was uh coming up on his finishing up his third half hour we've done more than that in this episode alone a lot more yes a good point the fictional character mike carlson is more beloved than

yeah than flash the character put the hours in and that's who should it the russia wasn't the disgrace it was given it to a guy with barely any screen time like flash i will say i do feel like flash maybe had a big advantage from what i could tell in that like uh concession persons and souvenir persons were truly just handing him things there was no money exchange i saw i felt like he just grabbed stuff and that was accomplishing his uh his feat there yeah at nine dragons they just hand him the little um thing of uh little man yeah yeah so you'd have to yeah i think it's maybe impossible to do this without the disney apparatus helping you i think if you explained i to yeah i think it's maybe impossible to do this without the disney apparatus helping you i think if you explained i'm trying to beat flash's record the character

from step by step they might help you out if we can figure out if somebody can actually like a real like figure out exactly what flash did let's like write it down on a list and see how much time it would take us this This is complicated because there was no Animal Kingdom yet. So how does that factor in? I think Animal Kingdom's out. If it's just you're trying to beat Flash I think it has to be what existed then. What they had in 1996. And then it'll be tricky though of course because they don't

have quite the same restaurants. A lot of stuff is gone and they're not up to full strength down there operation wise. So you'll have to figure out what substitutes rides if there's a different ride that exists this is really complicated yeah well and it's complicated because you you just are gonna have to skip all the lines and not stop and appreciate them well it will be it'll be tough but i will keep remembering what a victory i'm bringing home

for the red white and blue... It's a greater good. It's for our country, which is hurting so much more so than back then. 96, those are prime times. America needs a victory now, and you could be that victory. Yeah. How about we do this?

Is there a way to just look up, is there a Russian record for most Disney World stuff done in four days? And whatever in real world that exists, if there is a record like that, specifically done by somebody from Russia, then I will try to beat that. And that's a cleaner way to do it.

See, that's going to be hard. We're going to have to find like a really neutral source though, because our propaganda apparatus would underplay what they did in four days and their propaganda apparatus would upgrade it. Right. Okay. Yeah. Well, we'll get...

In the Mueller report, does he get into any of the Russians doing Disney World challenges? I didn't read the whole thing. You know, I'm not really sure. I'm so busy saluting him. Might be deep in there. They address Flash. They address the Disney World issue. Got it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll get you going

on this. Yeah. Bring the record back home to real people and not fictional characters who barely appeared on the show exactly um flash did not come back by the way in the next season he was replaced by yeah by a frenchman by jean-luc played by bronson pinchot drafted in there cousin oliver our first cousin oliver didn't work out this kid flash we got a second cousin oliver coming uh we should start winding it down the uh anything else we want to say about these or kyle having revisited these is there just any like uh specific memories or does it just like is it flashy but do these like are these your favorite episodes of some of these shows i mean i do i i know you were saying you think family matters is these your favorite episodes of some of these shows uh i mean i do i i know you were

saying you think family matters is is your favorite and in the best of these three yeah i think that i had i definitely had the most fun watching step by step and flash is iconic yeah well i texted you before that before before we got into this i was like we were like what do we do and you said well we got to do into this. I was like, we were like, what do we do? And you said, well, we got to do Family Matters and Full House. Like, oh, we should do step by step. It's with the fast guy. Yes. Yeah.

I mean, the fast guy. None of the other episodes have something as short and iconic as that. What an idea. Yeah, no, they're all so fun. And like I said, i love like we were talking about those moments um where these characters are forced to sort of be off the cuff uh and like kind of riffing on rides um i think there's probably like more moments that if i went through all all three of these we could find little times where they're like kind of ad-libbing like you

were saying not even correctly referencing rides but um i don't know any of these things it's fun when you see your your favorite characters like taken somewhere entirely new so i i had a great time watching that they're all two partners yeah yeah which i think makes them fit together nicely we left out boy meets world really quickly a big thing uh that happened then later is that dana from step by step shows up in the boy meets world episode like they were there they kept dana in disney world in time and she went and visited cory on boy meets world on the same night of tgif oh wow but it's sort of you know it's a different format it's not the two-parter they don don't spend as much time in Disney World.

I figure it makes sense to leave it out. Let's focus on these. Focus on the Fast and Furious. And I saw also there was, outside of TGIF, there was a Blossom and a Roseanne around the same time that also do Disney parts. Yeah. Blossom did Disneyland.

Roseanne did Disney World. And then later, Modern Family and Black-ish. And I haven't seen those. I don't know what they did but it's tough to top Jesse and the Rippers on the white piano the transformation chamber, the fast guy his American

flag jacket triumphant on the Cinderella castle stage, I mean these are all these are all wonderful moments and it's awesome to go back into them and awesome to just remember uh to and and meditate for a little bit on the butt master so thank you for bringing it to our attention yeah i really feel bad about the butt master stuff

i feel bad too now this was a scenario where I almost forgot about the Buttmaster for a while and now it's back. I'm trying to end on a little I brought back a dark memory. It's now it's like Buttmastergate

is like the scandal from now on. But yeah, I feel bad. I'm going to feel bad all the rest of the day no you please don't mike i'm so thankful that you called me out on that and and i'm also thankful that you were able to reaffirm the argument i was trying to make wherein we don't know what what in our universe exists and what it's good it's a's a consistent, cohesive logic in pointing out things that are, yeah.

Invented based on the information we had at the time, the butt master was relevant. It being a real thing is relevant. I'm glad we know about it. Thank you, Kyle, but master Mooney for bringing it to the table. You survived podcast,

the ride you're cut. That's a couple couple that's a nickname to be comfortable with right you feel you feel fine about that yeah um about the butt master stuff we'll leave it all right we're leaving it behind it stays in this episode uh let's exit through the gift shop i know that you have something to plug but we've been talking about uh this is a block of 90s television uh with an acronym meant to air on a specific day of the week, which is applicable to your new show, Saturday Morning All-Star Hits. Let's talk about that. Yes.

Our new show, Scott. Well, I mean, like, I feel like people have made it this far past all the butt master and flash stuff. They skip to the end for the promotion. They skipped to the end for promotion. They only want to hear the promotion. Yeah, no, I, this is super relevant in the sense that like TGIF was something we were

thinking about when Ben Jones and I, who, who co-created the show with myself, when he first started talking about this seat of an idea, like I was definitely talking about Tgif and the idea of doing that condensed experience in a half hour and our show we tried to do that essentially for the saturday morning cartoon experience so it's called saturday morning all star hits the acronym is smash and uh scott was a big part of bringing it to life. And yeah, we tried to essentially replicate that Saturday morning TV viewing experience.

So we have kind of our own versions of late 80s, early 90s cartoons all condensed into a 30-minute block, but then the show evolves. And it was really fun and and uh i i think we did a pretty good job of sort of replicating the experience of of of tv of the era i don't know what do you think scott i i i think so thank you for the credit on it i i'm like uh i'm thrilled and proud to be part of it's surreal to even be actually talking about it as a tangible thing and within the podcast the ride setting and it does feel like excited to be doing this relevant to to what i imagine your listeners are are into and like there's almost like some like

certainly disney afternoon parallels i would say so like for sure that's what i was like it's that kind of like the show is like it's a bunch of blocks of TV taped off of TV like you're watching it on a VHS later. And if listeners watch the Disney afternoon where shows would come in and out like now, there's Gummy Bears, but Gummy Bears is retired and Goof Troops coming in. That's kind of what happens within the single season of Saturday morning all star hits. Like, you know, there's entire mini shows and then the show ends and a new one comes in, but there's also this, this through line with the hosts of the show, the live action hosts, both played by Kyle, Skip and Traybor who are kind of, it's, it really is the Urkelization or the Cody effect. I'm almost, I'm 99% sure.

Like in the pitching of this show, we had like Skip and Trayvon, you know, like think Bill and Ted, Dan Cortez, Cody from Step by Step. Like, I think Cody was may have been the reason why Netflix decided to make this TV show. I don't know. But I think I mean, yeah, knowing that you could have a new cody on your hands yes what that times to your cash flow well and and on my end kyle that you you set up a scenario where beyond like the dream team of people to work with you ben jones's animation and art genius uh dave mccary your awesome friend and director uh besides working with all you guys and uh and getting to write so much fun stuff truly like kind of realizing that and like oh i'm like i'm like getting to

write stuff for cody basically this is as close as i can come to writing for step by step in 1994 so for that i really gotta thank you yeah most well we when we were when we were taught we're yes subs are a a running theme in our show um and i don't know when sub sandwiches are like occupy the place of pizza within this like uh what pizza was to the turtles subs are in this world and certainly when i was like when we were talking about cody and maybe what makes him cool or the idea of him being cool like that image came in my head of like somebody eating a sub sandwich on one of these shows always felt like a very cool thing but carl winslow like i you know that that's his dream day is like he's settling down for a sub until urkel making a massive super tall sub is this a Jason Dream 2 potential like build

and it should be if you haven't it's just like building the ultimate too big to eat in one day sandwich you know I try to leave that to the professionals you know sandwich artists if you will yeah I'd like to see you try look if you like if you like

subs if you like cartoons if you like TGIF or the Disney afternoon if you like if you like subs if you like cartoons if you like tgif or the disney afternoon if you like classic vo people we have so many amazing maurice lamarche and frank welker and eric bowser and cree summer and all those people like amazing voice talent as part of this thing and if you like kyle mooney and if you like your old pal scott i think uh listeners you will really enjoy saturday morning all-star hits uh i enjoyed working on it uh more than almost anything i've ever been a part of so thank you kyle sincerely and look not not to be too sincere not to make things awkward but no i really appreciate it and like you know this is truly

the beginning of my uh of my press and support for the show. I'm just really sorry about the Buttmaster stuff. Do you think you'll bring any Buttmaster-oriented material to any outlets that you... I think I'm going on Seth's show and

it's like doing a podcast the other day. You know the Buttmaster is a real thing? I thought it was like a joke on a sitcom. They actually made this thing. We have a picture if you want to come to that. I don't want anyone to got you. No one's going to do any gotcha journalism on you, hopefully. I'm going to be the only one who will have done it during this press tour.

That's right. And I think that's why we ran you through the ringer. Because we know that you have big shows to do. We want you to kill it on there.. And I think that's why we ran you through the ringer because we know that you have big shows to do. We want you to kill it on there and now I think you will. Well, I always have a great time with you guys and it's good to see you and I'm sorry I couldn't be there in person.

Yeah, no, thanks for making time in New York. A lot of time. I'm again embarrassed by the run time. This happens. It happened with you before. Star Tours was very long. Look, this is how we do. Check out Saturday morning. I'll start.

It's on Netflix. Eight episodes all available today. I guess. Yeah. And stick with the show is fun all the way through. So I stick with it. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

There's like I think there's an evolution and changes and surprises and, you know, a lot store uh as it as it evolves absolutely so uh saturday morning all-star heads on netflix right now as for us you can find us on the socials at podcast the ride merch is available in our t public store and for three bonus episodes every month check out podcast the ride the second gate at patreon.com slash podcast the ride next week country bear jamber week uh and we've already started recording it so we know these aren't short either so no load up for the winter you've got a lot to hibernate with what's that we've been doing so well with like the i run time reasonableness i feel like and then all of a sudden in the last week and a half it was like the springsteen concert lengths are back as well as the quality i think

everyone would agree what were the stamina the vigor we're bringing to the table uh lay look with that check out country bear jammer week next week uh thanks for listening everybody uh see you next week in a flash bye forever dog this has been a Forever Dog production. Executive produced by Mike Carlson, Jason Sheridan, Scott Gairdner, Brett Boehm, Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey. For more original podcasts, please visit foreverdogpodcasts.com and subscribe to our shows on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keep up with the latest Forever Dog news by following us on Twitter and Instagram at Forever Dog Team and liking our page on Facebook.