Podcast: The Ride - The Amazing Adventures Of Spider-Man

Episode Date: April 12, 2019

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It's podcast. The ride. uh welcome to podcast the ride a show hosted by three men who describe recording two episodes back to back as the most dangerous night of our lives and yours i'm jason shardin uh it is always my scout character that's the famous sketch phrase it is to me and we'll get into that mike carlson i had no idea where you were going with that i was like uh i guess we get tired i think you were to make fun of us for being like tired like tired of podcasting after two because it can get uh well it's like as harrowing as we get we don't we don't face challenges as much as spider-man today's topic

no um but i don't know most dangerous night of our lives in a way potentially does apply to what i wanted to talk about and we will get to spider-man obviously we'll uh you know i'll veer back to that track. But there's something important that I need to address, which is that I have recently come across a rather interesting video of one of you, my co-hosts. Oh, no. I'm not sure if you can guess.

No. You found it? But I have a feeling. Oh, man. You know the man, sir. Oh, it exists. It certainly does. You knew it was coming.

That was quick. Honestly. That's too bad, right? It is the most dangerous night of your life. For you, it's easy. You're like back at the station, like Jameson. Yeah, not worrying about getting sepsis or listeria or whatever diseases wow um yeah it it's it's happening it happened uh let me explain uh but if you didn't hear it back on our expedition everest episode we talked about

i forget even why it came up to begin with but there was a giant epilogue yeah devoted to mike's appearance on the dearly departed spike tv show mansers right yes um which if you aren't previously aware i mean first of all it's a place where dudes can find out the answers to you know like can tits fart and that kind of thing uh the answers that probing probing bros want to know their language not ours and then it would be in the void of like could you what do you think kids fart like that would be the way it would be presented i think that's how we got into it was talking about travel channel voice which morphed into spike tv oh yeah you're correct related and then mike you revealed a little too much information i even went back to check and

you like almost didn't give the nuggets of what it was i was gonna tease it i was gonna tease it for like later but then i said a little bit more about it at the end of the show and then it was just like all right here we go yeah yeah we coasted out of you i hope it was helpful i feel like you aired this and you can go back to that episode to hear the lurid details of yeah it's horrible shoot it's at the end yeah yeah we basically tacked on a mini episode that we didn't expect yeah um which honestly made me feel you know more bad about the whole endeavor than anything else because this was your first like shoot for television quote unquote yes and yet it was more unprofessional than this very podcast uh-huh just a mess uh uh you know with no makeup and hair and

you were just pointed at and forced to make out with a stranger who was upset to have to do it yeah she was mad about doing it and then she stormed off and then there was a negotiation happened without me and then uh some sort of resolution happened again without me and then i was not filled in on what the resolution would be and then i was just told okay action with no time to like adjust back into oh i'm now i get to make out with someone what are we doing i didn't know and you can probably see i don't know but you probably can't because the thing is edited so well that yeah well it's aggressively edited that's that's certainly true uh um i think. I think you convey false pleasure very well. Okay.

Well, that's good. And so much of it is discomfort that you were probably able to use what you were actually feeling. Right. If I could just say really quickly how I came across this clip, because I think I noted in the episode that I had tried to find it randomly before without really any clues, just because you can buy them piecemeal on Amazon Prime. You do have to buy them, though. It is $2 a pop.

So with every false attempt, I'm losing $2. But I'd forgotten about this entirely until Bugmane Extended Universe character Franklin Lombardo tweeted a picture of the dvd of man's best of mansers season one uh which i got uh right i saw this happening on twitter too i think i tweeted hey or something you just tweeted hey scott is holding the cursed object the best of mansers season one it has is the death touch for real it has how teeny can a bikini get before it's legally considered nudity uh and then just how can you get drunk faster

that's nice and basic so popped in the dvd and sure enough it was not on the dvd more money wasted the joke's on me so how much money are you in at this point in the story? I think I've spent, I think in the search for this, I've spent about 20 bucks. Okay. It's not crazy, but you know,

that's a, that's a meal or two potentially. And I can't tell you how dramatic it was to be watching. Man, it's your's best of season one, uh, with Aaron and around every, like it's a countdown from 25 to one.

And the closer we get to one, we lose our chance every like, Oh, there's only two left. And the closer we get to 1, we lose our chance. Like, oh, there's only two left. And then there'll be a bonus Mansur. And you go, maybe it's the bonus. But none of them were. But I was like, there's got to be a way. And there was a way.

I searched Twitter for the words Mansur's British handjob. Oh. And I went as far back as that could be found and i found two tweets really we're going back to the dawn of twitter this is early days of twitter it's 2008 or seven a little later uh this episode aired specifically on january 20th 2010 and i would yep yep and i was able to cross check that with the air dates on amazon prime and bang uh before i knew it i had your episode it's like 306 307 i forget uh which one exactly uh um but yeah this you know really i want to i want to put the choice in uh in your hands uh with great power comes great responsibility

mike uh whatever i i could play it if you want to relive this now, if you want to shove it back in a drawer. But I do have it available for you if you wish to see it. Well, the audience, look, if it's content and if it's going to draw the audience in, we need the content to be shared. That was my justification. I don't feel great about this.

I'm no prank about this i'm not i'm no prankster i'm not trying to like embarrass you and i don't think it is embarrassing by the way i think it is an acting job and it's uh i mean it is embarrassing let's be honest uh i don't know i don't know i should weigh in here and say today's topic is maybe my favorite ride and we're and we got a specially long line especially there's a dark yeah this is actually a good throwback to the first opening few years when this was the most popular ride on universal property it's a frustrating wait you didn't get universal express this is like you without universal it took a little while. And yeah, but that said, this queue, much less satisfying. Well, the faster we get it done, Wiz, the faster we can get to Spider-Man.

Back into it. No, this is important to weigh in with. We did this. I don't want to. This should not be a sidetrack episode, however. It should not be. But let's draw it out a little longer because I have the email for my call time. And I do see that it was 2009 which is crazy

because that's how long i've been in los angeles i'm losing my mind it was tuesday september 8th is when we shot it uh your call time for tuesday is 7 a.m at our bar which is located blah blah blah uh your on-site contact is katie i won't give her phone number uh for wardrobe please bring a variety of options that you would wear to a club or a bar A couple of pairs of jeans, t-shirts Button downs, polos, etc You know a country bear jamboree shirt Say Oliver and Company

Ringer T Also you may want to bring a book or a magazine To read because you may have some down time You mean like Jugs Weekly Like something a man would read uh so yeah so i got i remember now i got there and i did not have any down i mean i may have it later but i was literally sat down like all right you over here i was wearing a green shirt they didn't look at any of my wardrobe i just stood up and they went all right here we go uh so that wow that is crazy so that is

so so 2009 so that's we're coming up almost on the 10th anniversary anniversary of the your first screen appearance yeah i think that's right maybe there was something before uh let's i mean should we just play the audio i think the main way for you the listener to watch this will be uh will be on twitter because it's the audio is not great and it's not terribly fun i even edited it down i did the luxury and i edited in such a way that you will um i i moved up the appearance of someone else we know in this very segment so you're ready and the audio is not great so i'll just play a quick second but just for you to transport i mean yeah play as much as you want i haven't seen it in a few years but you'll be i think can everybody see okay uh when

we'll find out but you'll be delighted by the extra cameo i forget who the extra cameo is even totally ready to play yankee doodle with your big fish but wait dude something here's state at the bar, totally ready to play Yankee Doodle with your big face. But wait, dude, something here stinks. Why should you never get a handjob from a British chick? At this point, let me just pause it and describe it, which is that a woman in a Union Jack dress has spotted you without any dialogue, obviously, because that costs extra. It pushed you against the wall of a bar and uh just started just went straight to it yeah making out kind of just on your neck you didn't really have to kiss in this that's the story so to fill in a little more if

you didn't go back and listen the expedition everest what the situation was was that uh she didn't want to make out she stormed off the set the director got pissed they went and had a negotiation came back and they didn't tell me what the deal was and then they just said action and i was so scared and weirded out and confused and then she just sort of like gently put her head on the other side of my neck to i guess make it look like she was kissing my neck which she was not she was barely even touching me it wouldn't fool anybody yeah it's clearly someone kissing a neck right and i think i even in the first take wanted to be like does this look okay this is it doesn't look good right but like obviously the first person to ask any question

on the set of mansers right yeah i think this was i think this was a shoot shoot shoot scenario yeah and i think they were like well we'll just speed it up and there'll be an aggressive man narrating it and it won't matter which is obviously what happened late uh late arts reality tv production was just absolutely dog shit as someone who worked uh pa jobs of like eight shows like terrible especially right after the writer's strike like they were just grinding stuff out to fill time and it's obviously gotten way better in the era of non-union web production yes yeah absolutely now we're now we live in a paradise everything's great all right let me okay so mike's up against a wall and things were pleasurable but now they have turned very

sour Did you see the cameo? Yes, I did. The show and past guest of the show, Jordan Morris, in the very same segment as you. I forgot all about that. Seemingly, he's just making kind of a like, hmm face that could apply probably to any Mansur. He's a very broad, confused man person a performer who i know is capable of more subtlety than that but i think on mansers you yourself include everybody had to act as if

they like had like like a got hit in the head with a brick a couple times yeah i had to play it so big it was like i was acting at the staples staples center for the back row like you have to have your expression read for the very cheap nosebleed seats at an arena. Though the camera is four inches away from your face. Yes. And I honestly, I remember seeing it and going, oh man, I played that too big. I remember thinking that initially.

But at the same time, it's what they required. Yeah. And you know, what other way is, what other way can you play a man who has realized there's fecal matter on his penis and thus height like at the very end and i won't i won't play it this i'll save this for you too but at the very end you speed out of the room in a wily coyote manner leaving a trail of smoke behind you yes and she waves Goodbye and she still has toilet

Paper dangling off of her Fingers that is how much This woman has just been to the bathroom She tried to clean herself Which I think is not really it really Goes against what the lesson was is that they just didn't Wash their hands enough Well actually now that I think about it no I

Guess it's right so the idea is she didn't Wash her hands. She just went in and got the toilet paper stuck all over her hand and then didn't wash her hands. So now that I think about it, that's actually. Oh, it is. It is consistent. It is consistent. It's horrifying.

I think I would have noticed that, too, if she just had toilet paper stuck to her hand. When you say you edited that, did you add any extra sound effects or that is the direct that is the normal cut level of sound effect that's that's as it came and though that probably sounded very tinny as being filmed off of a computer monitor and then shown through an ipad and then played on a podcast the sound was as unpleasant raw as uh when i heard it as you the listener just heard it. Yeah. But I also, here, let me play one more thing.

And Mike is actually not part of this segment, the reveal of why you shouldn't make out with a British chick. But this is like. Hand job. Oh, yeah. Why do I keep self-censoring? Yeah. Hand job. Come on, Scott.

Ass eating is a 2019 thing, not a 2009 thing. All right. You don't want a British chick touching your lipstick Scott ass eating is a 2019 thing Not a 2009 thing Alright Poop hands Poop hands And they made like a Graphic cover of her hand That looked like her hand was covered in poop She did like a talk to the hand motion

And then they covered it in feces Like a graphic of feces In addition to a graphic of feces. In addition to a recession of jobs and money, we also had a recession of taste in 2008, 2009. It's funny because this would come out, if this exact thing played in 2019, people would say, well, we deserve Trump. We have brought Trump upon ourselves.

But this played in the just straight in the middle of obama it's not as if like you know yeah we feel like things have gotten more coarse but mansers was you know right at the tip top of the administration so yeah who's to blame the hordes of like yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna ask for straws and i'm gonna watch whatever problematic movie i'm gonna watch preventer nerds straws and i'm gonna watch whatever problematic movie i'm gonna watch revenge of nerds however much i want you know would be hooting and hollering for that garbage mansers i will apparently i think mansers had the issue where it was a really highly rated show but the reruns would rate just as high as the new episodes so at a certain point they just

like had so many produced because they were very popular for spike tv i liked the show i feel like i like a show where the producers are shitty clearly but there you know there are people working at places in the show like editors and like people are getting in subtle digs and like like like oh let's like twist this on itself and show that we know it's bad that was how i felt about my super sweet 16 right that was set up in a very cynical way to like let's put these awful girls on display and the you know the vest wealth they throw around but you could tell the editors would like cut it to make them they'd get in digs at the girls and the dads and everything i think mancers i bet like if you talk to a mancers editor he'd be like yeah that i was trying to be funny is that

like but is it an early sort of uh paving the way for like a vanderpump rules or like the the insanity that everyone agrees it's like well this is a trashy nightmare but i love it i think you got to trace that stuff back earlier than than my super sweet 16 or whatever it was called. I mean, Temptation Island is back on USA Network, for God's sake. And that's over 20 years old at this point. I keep seeing, like, it comes on after, like, Smackdown. Is that right? It's on, like, Tuesdays?

Well, we'll watch it a little bit later today. Yeah. So, I'll catch, I've caught a little of it here and there. And I honestly have not followed what's going on it seems like just people cheating on each other either physically or emotionally and then feeling bad about it that's the show in front of cameras that's the show you've got it you got it down but you were really you got to be a pioneer in this uh yeah a decade ago i got to do yeah one of these early well not early it was still 10 years into this trash reality show stuff but i just my main takeaway is i just you know

it's no offense to you i find it unrealistic that you would be somewhere and a woman in a union jack dress would just leap all over you unprompted that clearly is what would happen with a mouse woman in a red polka dot. A much more realistic scenario. Yeah, yeah. Honestly. Honestly. Like whatever, whatever Foley effects, like whatever stock effects you can use for free. Why you shouldn't get hugs from a mouse woman.

She's a mouse. She eats shit all the time. She hangs out with a dog and a duck. They eat shit too. I was just going to say, Minnie was much more intimate with me though than this woman was comfortable being because Minnie would put her snoot right on top of me.

Her snoot? Yeah, I call it snoot. I like calling it, I call Edwin's snout his snoot more than, but it is real. That's real. Look it up. That's a pronunciation for snout, but she you just like shove it into me and go skin then the performer

would say kiss would you make a kiss noise and it happened to me in the contemporary happened to me at epcot center uh and i think it happened to me at disneyland too so there was connection there and that's maybe why it's perhaps unsettling to watch that video because you sense how false it was it was just fake yeah it was just so that you both could get your 75 for the day yes and it was 120 i think for an unlimited buyout oh man i believe that's right and then what extra sucks is that like jordan and other people that were that were had to react they just did that once and they got one fee of $120. So he's probably in a whole two or three seasons going, what?

And then he makes that like... And they could use it for things like you know, like why is Al-Qaeda good and just? Yes! Effermancer. Yeah. So I think if they brought Mansers back they could probably legally

Use that footage again They could re-edit my footage probably And I don't have to I'm not owed anything They could do those they could answer Why Lori Loughlin was in the right Why she realized great It would be funny if manswers came back as like a a very like political left-leaning show that would now try to answer

the true questions that are facing americans why you have to like these movies paid for partially by the united states guard services and then it's just me And a British woman Just figure out a way to cut that in Well it like represents Like some geopolitical Yeah that's true Well yeah they make a special commercial for the United States

Army or Air Force And then they make the SAS The Special Air Service Or the Royal Air Force In England Whatever purpose As highfalutin of a purpose as this can be the uh sas the special air service or the royal air force uh in england whatever purpose as highfalutin of a purpose of this can be and what you did when you when you signed that buyout you didn't realize it could be used in perpetuity and on podcasts in 10 years no it's true i did not see that coming but it's there hey look up podcast the ride on youtube

and uh and you can you can join in the fun real quick do we answer the question you found it it was just a clip posted no no no i i will get nasa now i'm 22 in the tank i'm edging i'm getting towards i see i see you found the i got i got i almost spent to find this i almost spent what you were paid to make it i'm just glad i didn't get it's like at least like like three hours of your time i think honestly now that i think about it and this is a funny thing you do after you've been around for a while maybe i put that back in my reel it's a conversation starters or yeah maybe that's number one on the reel cut anything i was in with a celebrity and it's just that it shows that you

can go broad if that's what they're after, you're scalable. You're a scalable. Come on, Seth Rogan. Put me in a gross out movie of yours. Come on. You see what face I can make when I smell duty.

Come on. You could be used as a reference for sausage party too. Yeah. Like, as like, here's what an animated character would do if they bugged their eyes out. I'll be like a Sean gun, motion capturing Rocket Raccoon for the sausage, the new sausage and sausage party. There is a part they do show.

I think they represent you getting fecal matter on your penis by showing a hot dog dipped into chocolate, which, as I say it, on the one hand, a little upsetting. But on the other hand maybe something that jason would want to consume we talking chocolate hot dogs you can send usually i mean i've heard of um chocolate covered starfish and hot dog flavored water certainly yes we never thought about just combining two of my fazy foods well ignore the metaphor and just enjoy that on its own merits and with that said we can now get back to another red suited character of whom yeah we are more fond than mike was fond of the union jack woman yeah and that is spider-man spider-man uh one of the one of the few fictional i i feel like you know you hear about

like millennials being in like a you know forever adolescence or whatever arrested development and all that and i like to think part of me is is oh that's not true that's not the case but i am like i would call spider-man a friend i would say like oh my friend spider it's like oh i'm always happy to see him uh i i think the other one or another character i would say that about would be r2d2 like it's like i like these characters i find these characters very enduring that's me with rex that's what you see you admitted that to tony bagster about figment i uh this i think it's a nice feeling yeah a lot there's a lot of friends in theme park world yeah so you would think because i'm trying to think i would when i read x-men because with comics i was x-men was the first like superhero marvel thing i was way into and i would imagine living at the x-men mansion sure Sure. So when Harry Potter started, I really got it,

because I felt like everyone was thinking, dreaming of when they would get their owl, and they would go to Hogwarts, and they would live there. But I had the same fantasy about the X-Men's mansion. I would go to the X-Men's mansion. Rogue would find a cure for her powers, and then we would fall in love, and I would ice Gambit out. Sure.

I loved Gambit. Gambit's a cat a rogue you don't settle down with that right although recently in the comics they are uh in canon married they've settled down once in a while but so so it was i guess that's i was thinking about that were you kind of fantasizing as a kid about being buddies with spider-man well i guess i guess i probably was too yeah i mean i i like you was more of an x-men kid uh although even as a kid i was like in 90s x-men it's harder to square the circle of like you go to the school and live with them because how old are the fucking jim lee 90s x but they all look like they're 35 years old and they're all still living at xavier's school

for gifted youngsters which that was a whole issue in like 94 and 95 was they changed the side uh the sign to xavier's school for higher learning because they're like oh no the youngsters are in uh generation x they're in massachusetts now right yes that's true and then they they started to change stuff because when grant morrison came in the book then he put a bunch of like young people in the school yeah it went back to being a full school that is cool why are all these old people hanging why are all these old people with seemingly unlimited because that's the other thing with the x-men is uh uh they either get their unlimited money from angel from warren worthington's fortune or charles xavier's we lost scott already we've lost i needed a break so that's good okay good that's that's fine have at it i'll say this

is my ideal uh x-men lineup not characters wise i'm fine with rotating characters in fact i think like the avengers they should rotate in and out but i think it's five to eight x-men and the supporting cast is students the x-men comics for the last 10 years or so have just been like here's 30 x-men every issue i'm look i'm torn look we have to get back to spider-man because i can talk of another two and a half hours about the x-men's perfect lineup uh but i am torn on this because i like a nice small team i like the grant morrison run i like the joss whedon run a lot uh but uh we grew up on an x-men when x-men had two teams a blue team and a gold team and there were about 15 people on each team.

No, it was like six or seven on each team. I don't know. I think maybe we're in the middle here. Gold team, I think, was smaller. I think blue team would be more. Anyway, my thing- Now we have to tell. We have to figure out.

I'll say this. The difference between me as a kid with X-Men and Spider-Man, likemen i i put me more at ease because i'm like okay at least they all have powers and they could all have each other spider-man i was like spider-man's fun and cool but peter parker's problems stress me out and his supporting cast are all like frail people or his high school bully who also works at the newspaper sometimes and occasionally someone else with power shows up but they're not guaranteed to be there like he's he's kind of on his own so spider-man's like alter ego life peter parker constantly struggling which stressed me out i agree with that i think i liked the x-Men because there wasn't so much of that.

I think I liked Spider-Man. I liked the fact that he was a kid because I liked Robin. I liked reading impulse. I liked the kids stuff to imagine I was a kid. Yeah. Yeah. But Peter Parker was like two working class and I wanted to imagine you lived in like a fancy mansion.

I was like sort of, I think, I think that stressed me out too, where it was like, he's always in trouble and like, he's worried about like his aunt catching him and he's got homework and it was like that's too much pressure for me i like the x-men where they're all like their parents hate them because they're mutants uh but then they don't have to deal with them they don't have to talk to them anymore uh and then that's not i'm saying i didn't want to talk to my parents don't get me wrong yeah um i was gonna want to hear other yeah it was just it was more of a fantasy of thinking the x-men would move away x-men was soap opera but i kind of i liked that more i i liked when peter and mj were married like they were married for like 20 30 years and then uh he got the devil to undo it and it's a whole fucking mess yeah it looks like we're as far as the team i think

you were closer i think it's like eight from my count real quick yeah do you want me i think i can do blue i think i can do these off the dome hey do it okay gold team uh gene gray storm uh ice man angel archangel at the time and uh bishop eventually joined once he got stranded in our timeline. And isn't Professor X on the gold team as well? I think Professor X is more to the gold team because Cyclops led the blue team. But then Storm, I think, led the gold team. Did she? I think. Okay.

Scott? So, blue team. I think, no, she was on the white team, right? For sure. She had her own team. That was later. Blue team, Cyclops, Rogue, Gambit, Pit psylocke jubilee i think that's it beast yeah beast you're right and there's like gambit i said gambit yeah you did okay

all right they still hang out even though they're on different teams we'll figure that out well that was a lot of conflict because gene and scott were on different teams and then psylocke and scott had to think for a while and Psylocke and Archangel have on and off for years. Yeah. So you would split up couples once in a while, but then they kind of broke that down pretty quickly. That's a whole we'll do that one. We finally build an X-Men ride that we like.

I mean, the Storm Ride is fine at Islands of Adventure, but it's not quite the level of the Spider-Man ride. Sure. But Spider-Man, the Spider-Man ride, I think too, and i i the spider-man ride i think too and i'm going to give this ride so much praise and researching this ride most of the articles about it are universal acclaim so i don't feel as bad uh doing that but i think this is my platonic ideal of spider-man like it's like the 90s it's kind kind of the cartoon. He's fighting bad guys.

There's a little bit of Peter stuff, but it's more like funny. It's more like bumbling and funny in the queue. There's not a lot of stressed out. Like tonally, this is the, you're the Spider-Man that you. Yeah.

It's not too, it's not too dark. It's not, it's still silly. It's still fun. Gotcha. I get what you're saying. I mean,

because it's very, there's a lot of like 90s cartoon influence on it yes especially the queue i feel like because the characters is character designs are different than the cartoon but in the queue it very much feels like jay jones and jameson's office from the 90s cartoon yeah inspired by it at least which uh famously voiced by ed asner just for a little Yeah A little trivia there In the ride? No Okay Or maybe in the ride

We should look that up But in the cartoon From the 90s Ed Asner does J. Jonah Jameson's voice Oh that's fun So he's another Newspaper editor

And Or something I assume that's what Jameson is Yeah He is That's a good point Editor in chief

Of the Daily People I didn't even think about Because Lou Grant Then of course He was the head Of Mary Tyler Moore's Newsroom Of course everyone

Knows that But then he of course Was spun off Into his own, of course, he was the head of Mary Tyler Moore's newsroom. Of course, everyone knows that. But then he, of course, was spun off into his own show, Lou Grant, where he was the head of a newspaper. Yeah. More dramatic. Yep. Need a good Mary Tyler Moore ride. Yeah, well, they never.

Well, that one also will have a photography dark room with handprints on the walls and ceiling, but it won't be explained. If there was a mary tyler moore ride that we didn't know about that it closed i feel like whoever texted on our chain we would have been like put a pot of coffee on we got to go now we got to do this whatever time it is whatever time of this like 2 a.m we have to get together and record this yeah yeah yeah i don't think it exists but if you know of it please tweet at us yeah in a theme park recreation of minneapolis of miniature minneapolis right one of the rejected

islands of islands of adventure um let me just say the broad strokes details just in case opening day islands of adventure attraction at universal orlando gigantic ride probably what they like i don't what they put their money into obviously but like doesn't it i feel like this was like the big opening day it was the hit it was technologically years ahead of everything else probably cost a fortune uh ahead of everything i think in any of them i like i'm not sure disney had had gotten there and if you haven't been on this ride it's what it but you have been on the transformers ride those are clear analogs and it's the same ride vehicle and the same general idea moving from screen to room screen to room and it's a thrill ride but a simulator and this this has been so many things

that are like this now and this was the first and like like truly unbelievable the first time you went on it they invented a technique that universal owns the copyright for called squinching to account for the distortion one would feel about viewing uh 3d footage while in movement because before this 3d footage you would be watching it stationary. So they had to write an algorithm, figure out how, if it distorts in this way, we have to factor in an equal amount of distortion the opposite way, and that'll balance it out. So that if you are entering a room with a 3D screen from the left and then leaving through the right, the perspective has to perfectly match where your eyes would be over and over again all day and if you just stayed in one place and weren't moving and just stared at that screen it would look bizarre and distorted and bendy and weird but it also it only works in motion

it is crazy when you think about it because it works so well and you take it for granted but yeah it's like just walking in and like walking into a movie theater and seeing things from different perspectives like if you walked across a movie theater and then the screen like changed so you almost perfectly saw it and it looked like it was coming head on to you while you were moving like that's impossible like impossible it is a thing it's there's essentially a thing like this in mission impossible four oh yeah in russia he like puts up a screen yes and land it like like lines up with the pupils of the security guard so that it moves with his perspective so you can't see the tom cruise just down the hallway it is his mission impossible level technology yeah and the entire thing is

like military grade technique like like yeah probably the most technologically advanced ride ever upon its opening and that universal had at not disney And i don't i was trying to think like oh when did disney top this Because i think universal matched it with forbidden journey And it's the same idea with like the the attempt at a seamless transition between sets and screens Yeah, that's giving you a much more dynamic experience than a pure screen ride might give you and a lot of the the people who worked heavily on this went on to work uh heavily on uh forbidden journey and the more i thought about it i was wondering

when did disney top this or has disney topped this flight of passage oh it's pretty close i don't know if initially uh like i don't know if i was wowed as spectacularly as i was by spider-man the first time but pretty close it's not quite the same because there's not physical sets but as far as immersion and 3d and really getting people like absorbed in 3D screens, Flight of Passage is pretty close. Okay. Does it seem maybe Rise of the Resistance is the best next opportunity? I'm sure.

I'm sure. Because Rise of the Resistance at Star Wars Land supposedly has a lot of like augmented screens and things that'll make make they're already like practical sets and stuff but no glasses i don't i don't believe so yeah which could help step it up i'll say this the uh you this is a rare case of like universal cracks a type of ride and then disney does it that being the ratatouille ride it's a little different but ratatouille in in paris is trackless vehicles but moving from screen to room and some are big screens and some are small screen some simulate big old drops and some are just like transitional screens not as good not as

thrilling the ride vehicles aren't as good the the transitions aren't as seamless it's a it's a neat ride for sure i wouldn't speak ill of it but it's nowhere close right um so universal for sure and probably by virtue of that they have patents on stuff on like squinching and the the ride vehicles themselves like they're able to do it the best yeah and the ride vehicles are just so much more like dynamic and then and the this and transformers which i like i do really like transformers as well uh they really like jostle you around which really also adds to the immersion of it because you really like feel like beat up and like and my mom thinks now she can't do these rides because she feels too beat up by them well i think and it seems like when they were sketching out like what is this

ride gonna be uh early on it seemed one of the creators was saying like we thought it might just be a simple dark ride and then we realized we after seeing um indiana jones in disneyland they're like oh we gotta we gotta up this we gotta do something and strangely it's did you check out it's the universal versus disney is the book right the uh you've talked about this book yeah it's same general the theme park wars book yeah um yeah the uh uh i read the chapter about spider-man and that and it's the initial plan was i think they were going to call it the daily bugle instead or maybe or it was just still called spider-man or something but it was going to be more of an omni mover uh which the rumor is that that's what the the new one is that what disney's spider-man

ride is going to be like more of a kid-friendly slow moving but it's like like less scary i think than this spider-man ride can get yeah i think because there was a rumor or a patent was filed i'm sure we've talked about it before there was a patent filed for a ride system that Disney made Which was a giant arm Where it was like a roller coaster type thing And you would swing in a giant practical city Which I think everyone got real excited for Because it even mentions in the patent

Like swing like Tarzan Or Spider-Man, you've seen it right? I showed it to both of you I'm sure And it's like it would swing this way So you would simulate swinging And then when they announced that there would be like a spider-man ride but then the guardians of the galaxy ride is anchoring the new marvel land next year people were like okay this is not going to be a crazy e-ticket spider-man ride that we're hoping for not that that maybe you'll still get built one day but yeah that's what the rumors are it's like a slower sure sure

i'm the mover type thing so that's almost that's almost what universal did to begin with weirdly and then indiana jones stepped up again this is the best example of the theme park war absolutely and and this kind of it is a simple idea of like well we had it they wanted to combine we have a motion simulator like back to the future and we have like 3d combined with practical sets like terminator uh the terminator show and basically these ride vehicles are just motion simulators but they move along a track yeah uh i'm trying to think now i'm probably jumping all around here but i'm the first time i was on the ride i couldn't believe it like i couldn't quite believe that

they finally got uh me into the cartoon i guess is what it really felt like it was it was i i this opened in march march of 1999 and i think my family went in like june or july and i was just so excited of like a brand new theme park. Like this is incredible. And there's a whole Marvel area. Are you kidding me? And then the ride, like, yeah, all of the effects and just the tone of voice for Spider-Man in the ride. I was like, this is good. This is the Spider-Man I like.

Yeah, because in the night, I guess we were spoiled in the cartoons because there was all the Spider-Man and Marvel cartoons. Some of them better than others. The best ones being X-Men and Spider-Man, which aren't really that good, but they're good and nostalgia good. And then the less good ones are like the Iron Man cartoon, which I was so bored by as a kid. Do you remember that? Yeah, I think that and the Hulk cartoons were kind of made on the cheap. Yeah.

Although I have to say, I mean, of of course this spider-man ride got kind of upgraded 4k footage in 2012 and then hulk got a bit of a track upgrade and a different q video in right 2014 and we both have had got headaches after riding the new hulk yeah it did a disservice to the hulk and it just improved the spider-man ride yes the spider-man ride looks great i hadn't watched the i mean the the new i hadn't watched the 2012 redo i ride yes the spider-man ride looks great i hadn't watched the i mean you and the new i hadn't watched the 2012 redo i think like the only thing that you might have ever said was lacking in this ride was that the 1999 era cgi was starting to get a little out of date and they fixed it it looks so great you can all i haven't been on the new version so i can only

watch the i could just watch a video uh where it's 3d and i you know it's blurry and everything but even through that it looks incredible so it's all the same scenes but just rendered so much more dimensionally and like those the the big moments like who is it who jumps into your face and screams uh do that but scream i think you're looking for a character's name scream of course uh yeah that that yeah they look great everything it's all it's because everything is the same it's like if you went on it like i i went on it now and i almost forgot that it was redone exactly like i forgot i was like oh yeah it used to look and then i went back because my memory was just like oh it always looked

like this right it it reminded me in a way of of like, while I don't really like the film, I think it's really neat to see like Tron Legacy redo this. It's the same effects and scenes and bikes and discs, but rendered with decades advanced technology. But they retained how it all works and like uh the basic uh functions of it and it felt like that like so like so cool to just like you know five times advanced the animation and i keep the same ride i have to say the aesthetics of that movie and the color palettes and that version of like the future i am really kind of shocked and delighted.

I think I really haven't seen that movie in a while, so I can't speak for the movie itself, but I think the aesthetics of it have aged very nicely. Yeah. We've talked about that before of like, yeah, you know how you make it look like the future neon blue, neon blue always looks like the future.

They just got to get Tron into, uh, Disneyland. Just put it there. However, just got to get Tron into Disneyland. Just put it there. However, you got to jam it in. How could this Tomorrowland problem be? So we really need to do an episode that is the Tomorrowland problem. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's good. You know what I was thinking? I'll just pitch this to you guys on the episode. We do our plus ups, and sometimes those can be jokes. If we just didn't even do bits it's like all what all right it is your job to fix tomorrowland what do you do oh yeah that would be great yeah yeah that won't be funny but it'll be important no i mean they'll be fun i will make up some tomorrowland characters that you might giggle at i won't giggle at them they'll be

totally serious but they might have a silly name or something sure but yeah it'll be all it'll be mostly serious stuff no jokes um but this whole but you know you talk about plussing it up and everything like they they did what you would want to happen on this ride they updated it and made it 4k and nicer animation and did that give them more business probably not i feel like like Disney would have just kept it the same. I think it's amazing. Universal just unprompted, let's bring it into the 2010s and that ride has 20 more years of life in it

because they did it. They said too, I saw an interview with Theory Coop and one of the other people who were behind it, Theory Coop, still one of the other people who were behind it theory coop one of the still one of the main universal creative people oversaw a lot of like their popular rides in the last x number of years um they asked him like well marvel got bought by disney in 2009 are you

concerned about these characters going away and he's like we love these characters and we want this ride to stick around and for the foreseeable future it is so we want it to you know be relevant still and they just did it and wow yeah is there also something in the contract where they have to like kind of add stuff to things to like make it i think maybe not i think i'm wrong about that i think they have the freedom i mean they've upgraded the characters costumes to a more modern look yes there's so many times i mean that's probably a great episode too uh now that we're just pitching i'm thinking of other episodes um is that i'm so confused by the contracts for marvel and universal because there's certain characters they can use in marvel superhero

island some they can't and then i'm still confused because for a long time there were rumors that they were going to build a new marvel ride in islands of adventure, but I think they need Disney to sign off on that somehow. But why would Disney ever sign off on it? Unless Disney can get their own Marvel rides. So there's this whole stalemate, I think still at this point between the two companies over that. I do. And I have said before,

I love it. I love how interesting and weird it makes everything. I love that. So much of the land is still stuck in 1999 bankruptcy era marvel and that has to be stuck i think right uh that's what that's why i'm all these questions i need to know because the land is filled with glorious adam coobert art adam coobert a comic book artist did a lot of runs on x-men and various various series son of a legendary artist joe cobert brother of andy cobert another whole comic book family i have their cards they they do a whole line the three

of them did a whole line of x-men trading cards that i have upstairs the family made a trading card line together via fleer but yeah it's just the three of them trading off on the cards and all the hundreds of x-men characters school has produced multiple generations of comic book artists so like and i feel like the actual drawn art does look good like people still recognize that as the characters because all of that stuff was so ubiquitous in the 90s of like t-shirts and baseball caps and that sort of thing yeah i believe he drew that like the finale of the onslaught crossover i think that's right yeah they were all over that

yeah yeah they were like they were the superstars of the 90s for sure so you get the what the what marvel and universal gives you is more of a comic book come to life whereas disney will clearly do the more photo real the like aesthetic of the of the marvel disney yeah yeah disney will welcome you to a college campus style land where you can be recruited you can see every strap on his backpack yeah i assume there'll be a second wave where it's a little kooky or like the guardians ride and stuff but yeah right now it looks like marvel's doing a lot of like shield base like sterile shield base places to go which i'm like less and less into that but i liked in captain marvel like spoiler alert i don't know that they introduced the kree and the scrolls

like all right yeah more weirder stuff more weirder marvel universe stuff absolutely well i'm hoping that once the second wave of the marvel land goes around the hollywood area in california adventure we can get like a crazy creer scroll base or some weird shit because it would make sense to do something like that um but yeah it's like basically like you're going in the pages of a comic book because let's remember back then we were not spoiled like we are now it's hard hard I know we have listeners that are younger So perhaps they don't remember a time when There weren't 15 superhero movies a year Yeah

When there weren't 50 TV shows There wasn't a whole DC streaming service That focuses solely on DC Comics exclusive TV shows The idea that this all changed wow exists there was no comiXology like you can i could get any comic book right now on my phone like instantly that's crazy i used to be a pain in the ass kid i mean i was a good boy uh i was a good kid all right but i would be like anytime my parents had to run an errand it's like hey can we swing by the comic shop yeah yeah i went look i went to the comic store right before right before my

dentist appointment today so i'm still doing it yeah i get to drive myself now ha yeah i am in my 30s unless you get gassed probably shouldn't drive yourself i shouldn't do that i did not get gas that's good uh so even so but yeah that's all crazy i'm just saying though that i remember a time when a couple kids in high school read comics. And I knew those kids and I was friends with them. And it felt like an impossible dream. I remember reading an article on my computer that finally they were going to make the Spider-Man movie. Because James Cameron was going to do it in the mid-90s.

And I remember finally reading that it's going to come out in like a year or six months. Because there was a bunch of legal problems with it. So it was like, okay, cool. I knew there was an X-Men movie coming out in a Spider-Man movie, but most things other than Batman had not been treated with a ton of respect or money.

And so the idea that anything on this scale, like Marvel superhero Island or this Spider-man ride was crazy to me now it makes total sense that we get a giant big big budget spider-man ride but back then the idea that there would be a movie and the suit would look kind of like the character was oh god yeah they got it okay good spider-man looks like him because you'd always be worried because there was that generation x show on fox and it's like they don't look like jubilee kind of looks like yourself and they did that bad nick fury david hasloff which is great in a different way but everything was kind of very like you i thought i almost kind of thought less of the characters because of the way i felt they were treated in

the media and by mainstream audiences i know that sounds weird but you're getting it sounds true but you know what i'm saying i know what you mean i mean i would tape all of those made for tv movies on my tv i would not re-watch them a lot though no they were bad it was also like how do you mess up super spy how do you mess up teenagers horny teenagers with superpowers like and they they did it they messed they messed up but yeah it just felt like other than like superman and even superman was having trouble getting off the ground again but like other than batman most people didn't know about these characters and take them very seriously and we were only going to get them in comics kids cartoons and then uh occasional tv specials that didn't really feel at all didn't

even have a piece of the reason i liked the comic or the characters and it that's fun which is funny too because like i think it took a little while but there is a lot of acclaim for the batman and superman animated shows and the spin-off comics i mean mark miller that one of his first jobs was writing the superman adventures comic based on the tv show and he would go on to write kick-ass and kingsman and uh ultimates and all of these like best-selling comic books and ultimates of course is like sort of sort of inspiration for some of the avengers stuff yeah if it's like grounded take on the avengers grounded but like 2000s badass like i've reread some of that stuff recently and it's like a little 2000s badass a little too matrixy a little too very conservative but post 9-11

george bush like yeah captain america go like this a doesn't stand for france or something yeah yeah they're beating up a guy he does and of course the spider-man uh comic the post-911 spider-man comic where all the villains are standing at 9-11 crying oh yeah well that's you see a tear underneath dr doom's mask and it's like dr doom kills people all the time and then of course the one where the X-Men refused to save England because the women all have shit on their hands. Well, sure.

Yeah. Not worth saving. Yeah. There's islands, though. There was a mass Genosian genocide in the comics. Yes, the very first

Grand Wars at X-Men. He kills off an entire population of humans. Anyway. Yeah yeah i feel like apple marvel dc feels very like apple uh microsoft in a way where like they like one will excel far past the other and then suddenly out of nowhere the other will like shoot past it in terms of public acclaim and the best products and the

most like now and then sometimes they're neck and neck yeah and then it's also like they all just have identical products to each other like so many things that are the exact same thing like i was telling i was uh i was gonna say telling but boring l boring Lindsay with this the other day. That, and Jason, correct me if I'm wrong. The negative zone is the dimensional prison from the DC comics. Yeah. And the phantom zone is the, am I getting it the wrong way? No, it's the wrong way. Negative zone is Marvel's other dimension jail.

It's another dimension, but it's not a jail. Other creatures just live there, I believe. The phantom zone is where Superman banishes enemies to. Is that a jail or is that where they send bad guys? The Phantom Zone? Yeah. That's a jail. That's a jail, okay.

But they both have zones that they throw people in. And they've thrown bad guys into the negative zone. I feel like bad guys are in the negative zone. I think that's where Anniilist comes from in the fantastic but it's um it's another frontier that the richards family discovered scott you are right like and not just in terms of like in the zeitgeist of like marvel and dc jockeying back and forth for relevance but even just on a practical like dollar share of the comic book market or um uh unit share of the comic book market they're

constantly going back and forth so who's the uh uh who's the dell of uh of comics of 90s i think 90s belong to marvel in terms of how ubiquitous and you mean like it would be dark horse comics because dell yeah what's a smaller company that was the equivalent to Dell? Did you think you meant Dell Close? No, no. Sorry. In the 90s, yeah, you're right. Dell was small. I was thinking in the 2000s Dell was just fucking everywhere. You could trip over it.

Smaller, yeah, your 90s Image Comics. Image or Dark Horse. Yeah, which are still like three. I mean, Dell was a Dark Horse that suddenly was dominating. That's a good point. And now gone. I don't know what's up with dark horse.

They're still going. Still have some licenses. Image is probably more apt, I guess. No rides, though, for dark horse. I don't think so. I can't think of the dark horse properties off the top of my head. Well, they have the aliens license. Maybe still do. So the alien from Aliens used to show up in the great movie ride

that's true but no dark well i don't think that i don't think they got any money for their hellboy thing they have hellboy there should be a hellboy ride that'd be a cool one yeah absolutely um anyway so yeah so a little stuck in its time but still a fun land with like a great with well a good now coaster uh and a great still like hanging in there 20 year old attraction yeah yeah um there's another thing technologically i i learned this not only is there's the patent for squinching but the the type of ride vehicle is patented as well which is also transformers uh and it's a kind of company oceaneering international built these ride vehicles and you hear that name and you go well that's what's is that like a theme and then no no this is a oceaneering company that built sea vessels that would go like do repairs

on oil rigs that plant into the sea and like before they got into the theme park game oceaneering international sent vessels out that recovered pieces of both the lusitania ship that sank and the challenger space shuttle wow like they found a weird little ring piece that was like crucial to why the challenger exploded and that's the kind of thing that oceaneering did and then they started making theme park vehicles so like the tech the technology is so so top-notch and they got into business with universal originally because of the jaws attraction which if you hear heard our episode about that major problems with it of all the opening day attraction there were so many problems with opening day attractions at universal

especially jaws terrible sharks did not work much like the film totally unreliable universal thought the company built this royally fucked up we got to talk to people who deal with underwater mechanisms and they like outsourced weirdly to this ocean earing company who were like well actually the theme park uh business is fun and lucrative and it can be a whole wing uh so yeah what a strange lineage yeah and the same company they've made other rides with similar vehicles that are in odd locations i forget the one that's in bush gardens williamsburg but there's like essentially a spider-man transformers kind of thing there is that dark castle that sounds right and i think it's gone i think it was closed for something else a couple

years okay yeah and there's another one uh uh in tokyo dome city where i will soon be and i'm very excited but i have just learned that this ride has closed. It is not there. But there was a Transformers, or sorry, a Spider-Man Transformers type ride with this exact same ride vehicle that spun you around into like crazy, but much more cheaply rendered anime worlds.

And this ride was called Tokyo Panic Cruise. And I'm so bummed to learn I don't get to go on tokyo panic cruise when is that close to that close uh i think like last year i barely missed it and they are opening amazingly they're opening some new stuff right before i go so like there will be yeah there will be new things at dome city right before i go i'm really excited uh but i can't tell if any of them are replacements for this i don't know what like how do you have the space for a spider-man ride and then don't replace it with any i really can't yeah there's very little information about any of this at least at least in english it's really hard to uh wow uh find

stuff about it but anyway so dearly departed tokyo panic cruise well while we're on the subject of japan so this spider-man ride exists in universal japan in osaka too oh yeah um uh has a very cool facade sort of looks like the museum building that the mummy's in in florida but it says that daily bugle across the top oh neat like it's a historic newspaper building is it kind of a cooler so it's the only thing like the the outs it is a little the comic book style in florida while fun does seem a little cheaper sometimes what has the as the outside of it it looks like those uh marble columns kind of like it's in the new york section in that park because spider-man famously a new york character a new york new york institution like robert de niro uh uh so on the web a couple

interesting things one they have this great photo op you can do there this is a small picture i was having trouble finding a good version of it it's just a statue of spider-man hanging upside down but you can get your picture with it i think that's great yeah um there is in the gift shop you can buy spider-man instant ramen, where the little, this is what these are called, Naruto's, which is the preserved fish, like, little circles you get in ramen that have the little pink swirl. Oh. Look like little Spider-Man heads.

That's cool. That is cute. Whoa. And then, my favorite thing, on the English version of their website. And this is actually like really a very good Japanese to English translation. And I think sells the ride really well. It says so overwhelming. It bends reality,

an unbelievable immersive experience encounter, a new dimension of excitement in the world's greatest ride i like that really sounds like huckster stan lee in the mid 60s hawking his wares like that is just the perfect encapsulation of the ride they also use and they don't really use this in florida but on the japan website there is a lot of references to this ride being 4k 3d so those are good stats good stats putting up good numbers uh also that reminded me that the the one cool the one thing that sounded neat about the more omni mover type version that they didn't end up building is that they at the end they would have taken your picture and you would have uh gotten to get do a print out of

yourself on the cover of the daily bugle that's fun and that's something they should do on the current ride that exists i think the yeah the pictures do it kind of looks like a photo frame but like if it was a printout on actual newsprint that you could frame that would be yeah that would be amazing maybe they can do that california adventure yes that'd be an idea sure it's moving slower you can get those pictures more easily. Yeah, although it's probably- Cool guys, safe city.

It's going to probably be like a name tag or an ID card. Yeah, well, there hasn't been any- Like shield, employee. Yeah. You're worried about this being functional. It's going to be a functional campus. I think, yeah, I do think that's the idea. That's my feeling.

I mean, from the pictures. We don't have the Daily Bugle yet in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That's true, we don't. So, you know, I was glad that the new Spider-Man, the Tom Holland Spider-Man, we did not have to watch Uncle Ben die again. That was very nice. But I would like to see J. Joda Jameson back. Sure.

Hell, bring back J.K. Simmons for all I care. That's what people have, yeah, people want that. Yeah, why not? More relevant, bigger star now than then they have they don't i think they don't like to feel like they didn't they're it's not their version i mean i don't think anyone would be mad at all and i'm an advocate for like just bring toby mcguire back as his like older spider-man like they were going to do in spider-verse like there's a rumor they're going to do uh Spider-Verse. There's a rumor they're going to have the three Spider-Man actors do voices as well. I like anything like that.

Wherever we're getting the old actors back, we're putting people together. It's the one thing about, you kind of like that trailer for Shaft. I was less sold, but I do think it's neat to see, well, one of them's new. One of them's not. There's two old Shafts and a new Shaft. It's an easy trick, and I love it. It's a big thing in comics shared universe legacy characters that's what we i know we've talked about before like dc like had all these legacy characters in the 90s like wally west is a flash now kyle

rayner's green lantern yeah and then the 2000s they crapped all over that it's like they're still back to the original yeah went back to original. Marvel has done that to a lesser extent. Yeah. Honestly, the first non Marvel cinematic universe character that will enter that was cast before is Deadpool. Hmm. Dead.

Oh, yeah. Remain Ryan Reynolds, this version of him, and he will probably end up in some of these movies. Wow. So the Deadpool will be in Disney movies. That's what bob

eiger has said so i think he makes too much money for them to not yeah it only it only makes sense for sure um does did does deadpool end up in the parks that seems like they can't or they would have to neuter it i mean i think they neuter it probably yeah it's a ton of money yeah the problem is there's no, they still have to work out the Florida parks and then they just have to have room for like, there's a Deadpool ride. Would people lose their minds?

Sure. Even a PG plus PG 13. How about, you know, all of these rides, the one we're talking about has onboard audio, right? Like you could presumably customize could

you like press a button and show your id to press the button to where you are accepting the r-rated experience of like it's a different could you imagine yeah i don't think that's a bad idea it would be it's it would be very hard because i think even universal would be too skittish with stuff like that. Because, you know, inevitably a mom and a five-year-old go on the ride and mom doesn't know what to hit. And she's like, well, I'm older than 18. And she hits that and then Deadpool's. Welcome to Monsters After Dark.

This year there's cursing on this ride. Deadpool's here. What's funny is 95% of Deadpool comics are like PG, pg-13 there's there's a handful of r-rated deadpool comics but in the movies it's like oh yeah it's disgusting it's yeah filthy what if it's like headphones that you put on only and then it's like such you have to sign like three consent forms to be sworn at it it's like there's so many checks and balances and then you get to hear the word shit said officially in a disney park please shit taco i mean you gotta gussy it up you gotta kind of thing that happens i know i've not seen either of the movies all the way through i have

seen both of them and i can confirm that while shit taco i don't think appears directly it is certainly in the same vein as the other jokes in deadpool i see that's what you're yeah so it's the way that people like donald trump is a douche nozzle it's that kind of garbage oh no yeah i think i if i'd be less concerned about the profanities and more if i could press a button i'd press a button to where he doesn't get meta if i could stop him from brain i would only do a deadpool ride experience where fourth walls remain intact this guy you're trying to put a leash on a wild dog like deadpool that ain't happening i guess this ride's not for me free no no it's not a

moral thing it's a uh it's a comedy snobbery thing okay yeah i think i i think there'll be a lot more deadpool to come in all media uh and a ride probably third park what if california you know what this is like actually if they let them do whatever they wanted like deadpool somehow like taking over great moments with mr lincoln and then like making a a profane speech i mean that would be so much fun it might have like fly in the 90s but i feel like now so much of the crap we can consume is like well what side are you on the good side are you on the bad side what movie are you seeing opening week you know that sort of crap it's like how disney can now never remove the hall of presidents because there are sacred good yes it's politicized it's our sacred good uh presidents but

can they have deadpool run up and fart in every president's face the democrat or republican or wig maybe hmm how would he uh just because we're blue skying here how would the animatronic move from president to president who uh i'm not sure maybe we don't have the technology for that or is it like a sophisticated

hologram or is like a screen in front of the presidents that can dart around or it's a live actor there is an actor whose job it is in every single show of the hall of presidents to fart on them how about in their faces how but it's this it's those robot stunt performers that

they were testing at disney and they sail one over the presidents but he farts while he's flying he unleashes kind of like a like a toxic fart spray so he shoots out like a batman 60s batman style colorful gas that spells the word fart or like yeah rap or one of those batman yep sound effect and he'll fly over the president's uh crop dusting all of them essentially and it'll be a so they'll just have to take the robot they already have they have the technology and they'll just have to shoot put a gas canister in its asshole yes a technician every time will have to just like take like a spray paint can shake it up yeah just jam it up its butt and then like okay slap on the butt you're ready to go and then yeah so yeah i think i think deadpool takeover maybe that's one of those late night events too where

deadpool takes over a lot of the rides this is the rare ride that is only open past midnight. So they have to extend the hours. But if you go to Disney, or let's say Magic Kingdom, past midnight, Deadpool is interrupting every single ride. Yeah, I went to Disney After Dark. I went to the Star Wars one. I went to the 90s one. I went to the one where Deadpool farts everywhere.

And the only food they sell is chimichangas.'s what he likes right oh yeah he likes that you know what it's like food it just sounds funny it just sounds sure it's a funny sound um spider-man's fun i i think the jokes in this are like pretty good there's some fourth wall jokes there's some fourth wall should we go through we the one i guess the one thing we're missing is like actually stepping through the plot of the ride sure the the primary thing of which i mean i don't remember why you're there but the over arguing the one line synopsis is that uh the statue of liberty is being stolen well sure well to answer your question you you are there to tour the daily bugle and see their new uh news gathering vehicle the scoop which is why it has satellites on that's why it's got satellites on

it and it is daily bugle the newspaper even though you're watching uh like new york one or something that's supposed to be new york one or something like that uh and look at she we're watching the news van that picks up like public access like local news stories now the news van is also a news story uh that he it's like a big deal that jay jonah jameson famously stingy invested in this news van and um it's important i mean there's a gag where like he makes peter parker one of his photographers, talk about the scoop and he touches it and then they usher him away and Windex it. And then there's a bunch of scoop scientists who they demonstrate how to improperly get in the ride vehicle

and then how to properly get in the ride vehicle. That's really funny in the opening and the pre-show animation where all of these stiff lab-coated scientists then end up in traction and with casts uh uh like and they'll cover in their bodies and they're they're flying out of the vehicle and everything that's a lot of fun uh and also and and jameson very derisively refers to spider-man as or as to peter parker as that shutterbug yes he's always calling him a shutterbug spider-man is a menace or a vigilante but he trusts us we can go in there yes we can go in the patrons of the paper the other thing is i believe they they imply that

like well all of his reporters are scattered about the city trying to get a handle on this. But they know where it is now. There's been a sighting. It's like, we need somewhere out. We need people on the street. Okay. So, you're getting in the news vehicle to help them gather the news. Okay.

And they did not anticipate that you would end up in the crosshairs of the action. No. Specifically, in the hideout. Like your very first thing is kind of going through the city and you find the secret hideout. Of the Sinister Syndicate? Yeah. So this is a whole thing. Yeah, yeah.

It's not Sinister Six, which is a familiar title. It's the Sinister Syndicate. The Sinister Six! Yeah, which we've talked about in the patreon episode but yeah for one specific reason and usually within okay within the marvel universe there is both a sinister six and a sinister syndicate the sinister six usually a-list villains sinister syndicate kind of like the b team of spider-man villains but they have again rotating memberships oh there's no green goblin yeah so like this there's no venom there's no carnage there's no green goblin there are heavy hitters there's heavy hitters doc ock electro uh do you think electro was in an a list i was trying to think

who do you think is more a list electro or shocker oh electricity you know what electro for sure i think is a list i love shocker but shocker is for sure b list okay uh electro yeah uh which one plugs the big plug into you and shakes your hand it's electro that's a crazy moment in the it's like a little unpleasant in a way but very scary and a neat moment in the ride um hobgoblin in this ride instead of green Goblin. Yes. Hobgoblin is like, has his own interesting backstory that is very complicated, like any comic book character, but like Green Goblin is walking around the land. So. Yeah, right, right.

But he's not on. I think they kind of picked which characters to use and which set pieces they were going to do, because they would, if they had had this if it was a sinister six they would have had to have a six villain because there's only five okay and they wanted to pack this thing which that's the thing i that is very neat about this ride that it's all of these villains all at once it's like batman 66 they didn't just choose one or two yes all of them they're all running rampant uh uh yeah and around every like

every screen is devoted to a different one of these villains it's it's uh very exciting yeah it's um yeah so it's uh it's electro doc ock hobgoblin scream and hydra man hydra man right yeah hydra man kind of an obvious yeah water effects are easy to do um how god sprayed in the what's his yeah you get sprayed he's sprayed uh he well that's a funny moment you because you so you go through the hideout you see the levitating pieces of statue of liberty and then you kind of like encounter the villains one at a time until eventually doc ock levitates you the first time you see hydra man you're in the sewers and spider-man's like all right why don't you all just calm down get back to the

bugle and hydra man rises up behind him and spider-man tries to punch him a few times even though he's like a clear liquid thing yes it was much bigger yeah yeah yeah uh so and he throws a pipe at you at the end of the ride uh spider-man tricks electro into shocking hydro man so it just makes a giant explosion smart that's very fun i'm glad you're here to explain all this because i'd never understood i like this right a lot i couldn't tell you the plot at all i don't know what happened in that pre-show i'm like a lot it doesn't matter that stuff happens fireballs it's great uh do you think scoop and evac know each other oh do you think they were an item oh i didn't i didn't want to go that far but yes i do now that you say it uh well with six degrees of freedom on each uh who knows what yes what what flurries their bodies could form into sure uh transformers introduces the other transformers uses an elevator system so you're kind of on two different levels and that spider

man doesn't really do that so evax on top well all right save it for dancers the answer is who's on top when the ride vehicles fuck each other uh 13 screens right 13 massive screens yeah kind of kind of another technological thing of like this is 1999 before like big blockbuster movies were on imax every weekend true and before there were like these like semi imax screens everywhere like you had to go to a theme park to see these giant screens and a sort of boring thing but a little interesting is how like the the audio is big uh complicated thing with this ride and there's a lot that's on board but certain things just for realism had to sound like it's coming from the front or from the sides and most times on a ride or in a movie theater the speakers are behind the screen but they had to use a different they had to use a special kind of screen and the you wouldn't be able to hear the audio through it

so it's very tricky finding where to put all the speakers uh much like expedition everest like it's i think it's an underappreciated thing like all the yeah the hidden speakers that are in every one of these rides yeah i read somewhere that they some of the speakers that they are by the screens they're like in front of the screens and then they bounce the audio off like a vinyl piece of vinyl or something that's crazy wow um and then there's that other odd thing about this where much of the set design in this ride is on canvas it was printed onto canvas yeah because with all of the technology going into the vehicle and the films themselves uh there was not a lot left over like it would it would have taken forever and very

very expensive and complicated to like hand paint a lot of sets yeah and plus it would look more comic booky and like you could literally take the assets from the film and print them out onto canvas and that's what helps the seamlessness yeah you're like something that was rendered in cgi is just printed and next to you on beautiful unlike super super quality canvas um i don't know it's it's that's it's very well done it's very effective helps you feel like you're in an animated world yeah and and i mean like all the effects kind of were refreshed in 2012 to like the i mean the hobgoblin explosion him throwing a pumpkin bomb to an actual explosion above you is still like it's still impressive unbelievable and i didn't know that was coming

the first time i went on it so shocking it's such a big explosion. It is so close to you. And if you watch the video, I kept looking up ride videos and watching that path from the movie. You're by this point, like leaving a room and watching a fireball that's digital perfectly. Like it's a such a specific arc. It throws it from the screen to become a real explosion going in the same direction in the room with you. I think this is like one of the best things that happens in any theme park ride anywhere. Yeah. And they reuse it for Transformers. They use that same thing with you get shot at early on in the ride.

Yeah. I think it's the same thing where it's like it really messes with your brain. Yeah. The whole thing. By the way way just in general the transitions are crazy like it is just watching a video of it or my memory of going on it like there are points i mean obviously you can tell where they happen but it's insane how well the perspectives line up and that there are points where you bug out and you're like oh my god there's

a screen in front of me now like you Like you're a little late to it. Yeah. I think it's so uncanny how well they did this. Uncanny X-Men. Yeah. Come on. Is that right? Yeah.

It was, so the first time we went on this, it's 99, I think, and it's the summer it opens. And I don't know the actual amount of time we waited, but I believe we waited at least three hours jeez for this ride maybe it was only two maybe my memory is bad um it was raining all day i was not wearing socks my feet soaked to the point of like bloating in my shoes i've never seen this happen to my feet before or since and we went on i didn't realize how bad it was until after but we went on the ride and we were all very wet

and cranky before we went onto the ride and we left the ride and we were like well that was worth the whole that was worth it like yeah because of all the things you're saying about it uh that it felt so worth three hours it's crazy or whatever who knows two hours but but it felt some insane amount of time but we're like we have to do this it's the last thing of the day and then i took my shoes off and it looked like my it looked like just a big chunk of skin would fall off my foot oh like it looked like like it was so puffy i was like am i gonna lose this the bottom half of skin i did not that's funny because my family we waited like four hours for gringotts like we were there opening summer it was still three or four hour waits sure and it had poured rain that day and we i don't think any of us had your uh disgusting

puffy feet but we were definitely waiting in in wet clothes and wet shoes for a while. Again, who knows how the Star Wars, by the time this comes out, maybe we'll know how we're going to get reservations for Star Wars. But I am prepared to soak my feet to wait for Star Wars. If I have to, I will. But it's going to open in the summer, so I don't know where you're soaking your feet, unless you have to stand in a line but it's gonna open in the summer so i don't know where you're soaking your feet unless you have to stand in a line where a sewer is broken or something which i will if there's a open sewer i will stand in it if you have to drink some of that water

okay if you have to get a handshake i am willing to do almost anything to get into star wars land even without rise of the resistance open on opening day. Uh, so yeah, it's going to be a song again. My family too were, Oh, we were all in agreement.

Like it wasn't my mom. I didn't lose dad either. Like everybody's on board too. I don't remember. He's, he doesn't always say like, Oh, what a great ride or anything like that.

But I think he thought it was fine. I'll ask him after this. But I do remember my mom being very excited about it. then i would take her on the transformers ride years later and she'd be like that was too rough i'd say well spider-man's exact same ride she'd be like i don't remember it being like well it's transformers i think has worse footage it's darker it's it's a chaos those movies are chaos so hard to tell what's going on i think that spider-man is so clear what the action is yeah yeah it's like big bold colors i find transformers to be like a much even darkened it a little like it was a little more fluorescent i kind of miss how fluorescent

the colors were in the original version compared to the more like darker movie aesthetic and say spider-man's costume or doc doc's got the duster on like but yeah i think it's it might be partly a trick maybe but i think she was just she felt like she doesn't like doing star tours anymore so i don't think she was oh that's fair yeah i do think it's clear what the action is in star and spider-man then transformers although those transformers i was just on this ride a couple months ago. They are letting that thing get dark. That screen is dark. I remember a few years ago because I was way into it.

I would pop up to Universal just to do it and leave a couple times that summer because I had annual pass. And that screen was much brighter than it is now. I think there's this whole, I've, I've maybe mentioned on the show a little bit, but I, I think this is even something that another episode pitch,

something we can chart here and there. I, I, I've, I've been thinking about like MVP rides. What is the best ride in the world when it opens? I think this might've been one at some point. I think transformers might've been high on the list,

but maybe less so now because there are better, like better rides of open sense, but also just it itself, the quality is, has diminished. Quality diminished, more endearing characters on more recent rides too. Like.

Yeah. The Transformer. Yeah. I mean, I will, I do like the end when Optimus Prime talks to you, but I don't have the warmth for him that I do for Spider-Man. I don't have the warmth.

I think Evac is endearing because he's another character trying his best. I want to say on record, I do respect Optimus Prime. He does not have an easy job. Thank God there was no confusion about that. I just want that note. I want that written down. Well, you've also respect because he's respectful to you he really leans true he gives you what i like on rides is he gives you

a good two to three seconds of a moment to sit with him which is what i like in star tours when the new one 3po gives us a couple like a second to sink in that we're part of the rebel alliance now i also like that character actor who's the general in the transformers queue i forget his name he shows up and a lot of plays uh landry's dad on friday night i knew you were gonna say i knew he was a friday there was some sort of connection he's in a bunch of stuff too though i can't think of his name uh so yeah so optimus prime tells you but so spider-man doesn't ever quite have a serious moment with you where you feel important do you does that make your favorite themed entertainment character smoky the bear because he always pointing at you i certainly like him i mean mcgruff also points at me and i like him

but he has mean these has commands for you i like that don't do smack he's right i don't want to correct you pointing at me now like Smokey is. Listen up. Spider-Man at the beginning of the ride jumps on your ride vehicle. You feel the bounce. And that's when he says like, this is the most dangerous night of my life. And maybe yours. But he's still being like funny.

He's a little serious. He's wanting to be more sincere. I think you just love this Optimus Prime. You feel like seen and loved and like you're seated at the right hand of God. serious you want to be more sincere okay you well i think you just love this optimist pride you feel like seen and loved and like you're seated at the right hand of god i mean i guess that i think that's right i think you're right about there's an argument where spider-man's warning you but you secretly he's like well a little help would be good i mean he's funny at the end when he's the character he's hanging down upside down he takes your picture and everything mike doesn't like that he wants he doesn't want him to be funny i'm not saying i want spider-man to change his character because that that wouldn't

be right for him to do but i'm just saying i it is nice when um a serious person that i respect like jason uh who's in charge tells me that i did a good job and he lets me sit with it while he stares at me for a couple seconds but there's like i feel like this is the one example of this can you name more c-3po he's a serious person he doesn't tell me but he doesn't expect you respect c-3po i do respect him but and it's not quite the same situation but on star tours once we get the transmission from whether it's bb-8 or maz kanata or princess leia he turns and he has a couple different things he says but one of them is he says something to the effect of Looks like we've all just joined the Rebel

Alliance and we kind of sit there For a moment in the middle of the ride and it Is a serious moment it's not played for his Usual laughs or his head got torn Off or something I like that I like it in the middle of the ride or at the End of the ride when you have to sit with a Serious beat for and they get I would like

It for like 30 seconds but they give you What feels like a substantial time And like the time frame of the ride when you have to sit with a serious beat for and they get i would like it for like 30 seconds but they give you what feels like a substantial time and like the time frame of the ride so z3po said i love you and then and then you just looked into each other's eyes for 30 seconds uh if he says it to me will that be like a second rebel spy where he'll choose a different the other way to cut well i mean i think the the cleanest thing is you're the spy i'm the spy every time and well you're gonna have to make an arrangement with disney where you're always a rebel spy but the rebel spy also c-3po finds you points you out and says i love you you did a good job that i think that would be fantastic because i do think this is everybody else but yeah but that's the i love you the most i love you the most yeah i think that'll be good you can find a way where he says it more generally

and you feel like it's to you how about optimus prime they they combine the et technology and then have all this we add this i love you thing to it so he's like you did well out there recruits jason i love you and then he goes person by person in the car and it's newer technology so he's very clear and then he says i love you to everyone in the car everyone would feel great but yeah but that that was a big backup behind the car while it pauses at that point okay well there's gonna have to okay they have to expand the ride then and all the cars there'll be like six different things they'll split off so the car will split off into different uh sections with optimus prime and it'll be easier for loading is what i'm saying what if it's after the ride and you just

you get to like enter a room like a like a like a confession with a priest or like you're like you know seeing a dying person for the last time like they give you a moment maybe like a moment alone and well that's good i thought you were gonna go with like in a confession and then the little thing opens on the side and it's optimus prime's eyes you're not sure who it is back there there's anonymity but um i have a feeling it's optimus. How long has it been since you rescued the Allspark? Say four hail bumblebees. I think that's good too. I like all of this. Sing four

of his fun boogie songs he's always playing. His boogie psalms. So you want, you need more, do you consider the Indiana Jones end beat to be in this genre ride heart to hearts is what you want no that's too he's being funny and he's been flipping you're you don't want all right i'm not saying i don't want it i'm just saying the thing i specifically like is not funny i'm gonna do yeah but i'm gonna say serious spider-man sometimes sucks

ass spider-man dealing with his clone i went back on what i'm gonna say serious spider-man sometimes sucks ass spider-man dealing with his clone i went back on what i said before i don't necessarily think he should say something serious you're looking for you don't want to throw other things out you're fine with the spider-man moment but you want other moments and rides where a serious character yeah says something nice like they tried a few years ago to do dark knight returns in the spider man comics and i think it's called the last will and testament and the the crux of it is a very old peter parker has to come out of retirement like in the frank miller comic but he he goes to mary jane's grave and and reveals that due to or the radioactive nature of the spider bite in his powers

all of his fluids all of his bodily fluids were toxic so by having a wife that you have relations with he gave mary jane not powers but like cancer he killed mary jane by loving her jesus this is a mini this is a spider-man mini series i and it is it's insane it's one of the things so i want an overlay for the spider-man ride in florida where he explains to you that he gave his wife my semen and blood were all sick hey fellow wall crawlers guess what I gave my wife? Cancer. In our marital bed. Don't share a drink after me. I don't even know what that is.

All her organs. And I'm not talking about HPV, but get that new vaccine, true believers. I don't know what that run. That's a weird. That was, I, yeah. You gotta look that up. You gotta figure that out. I gotta look it up. Yeah.

I, oh boy. Here, what have we missed? We've got Spider-Man's toxic semen. Got the semen. Got him giving Mary Jane cancer. Through lovemaking. Sex uh uh cancer juice uh we've got we've got character heart to hearts uh i don't know the free fall is cool there you go okay yeah so maybe one of the best endings for a ride ever uh doc ock levitates you specifically they're fighting you're fighting about the city um doc ock levitates you specifically they're fighting you're fighting about the city um doc

ock levitates you i have his dialogue uh right here i always thought this was very clever for theme park uh script writing uh spider-man says doc your aim's worse than your haircut spider-man knocks him out of the way and he goes it's good enough for your sitting duck friends and he zaps you with the the levitation ray you start to rise up above the city spider-man tries to web you down and pulls you throughout the city because hobgoblin's like pulling him along in the glider and then doc ock uh reverses it so you start to free fall you're only free falling about like like i saw 10 inches it's crazy is that all it is it that's all it is but the walls are moving the footage is moving and it truly feels like you're falling out of the sky that effect yeah especially i mean now it's i

i can i'm not as panicky on rides um but at the time yeah it was like felt like you were falling like i was so impressed it's a massive trend i'm a little scared to drop so like oh god oh god all right well it's cool looking and you were not and one of the main designers of the ride is like i know exactly oh i know how it works better than anybody and it still bugs me out every single time yeah and again another thing where they just stole this for the Spider-Man ride, the exact same ending. The Transformers. Oh yeah, sorry. Yeah.

Jeez, losing my mind. Okay, the heart to hearts, to go back to that, would you accept the villain heart to heart where a bad person says, I was defeated at your hands. You have bested me and I salute you for it i think i'm about to die because of you well i mean that would be i mean that's a little bit of a bummer i would think like doc kind of telling me a quick sob story about his life and why he got here and then how

he's going to give it all up and turn to a life of heroism heroism and not crime i think that'd be nice you want to give him redemption i i will change my ways because of you mike i think that would be fantastic um you get a lot more like no like when uh poseidon defeats the evil lord darkenon in the other island of adventure right in poseidon's fury in poseidon's fury or journey to atlanta whatever that one day one day we'll get we'll talk about all the different versions that it's just so like we do it every time my family goes to universal and i think we always do it once that's not a rewrite but i just as a kid like as i've grown i've like how many times has this story changed like so so for you poseidon looking you

in the eye and saying there were a lot of people well there's like 300 people in this show something like that come in uh every 20 minutes but you jason helped me defeat dark and on lord evil or dark and on a beloved character we all know with love from myth uh well from we this is the public domain island and we gotta get this park open what if okay so say we're in the oga's cantina and and you're having a drink scott and all of a sudden rex goes and he points at you and he goes i'm here because friends like you and friends like you have kept me alive in their memories scott as long as as long as i could uh toast a glass of uh uh i don't remember the name of the i don't remember the name of the white wine oh yeah uh yeah whatever that padme white is

from alderaan yeah i mean you know he could she could do, or Rex could have an Imperial Red Cab Sav. I forget if I'm getting that right or not. She's having the white blend from the planet that no longer exists anymore. Yeah, that's how it's grapes so old that they aren't even grown. Rex says, like, this was a

bringer show, and by you being here you helped me reach the ten people that I had to get tonight to get a drink ticket i'm getting 20 space bucks because of you yeah that would be great yeah like that uh yes i know now i understand yeah that's the that's the idea if he put all three of his claws on me uh on my shoulders um and he shot his little air horn at you what's that? then he shot his little air horn at you

oh yes hey Scott this one's for you can't wait for the oh boy Rex has got an air horn was there any way to make me like Rex more? give him an air horn

so end of the Spider-Man ride too after Spider-Man pops down takes your picture you get to see a fun little joke. The beam is aimed in the Bugle office now, specifically J. Joda Jameson's office. And he's, like, stuck flying on the ceiling and stuff. And that's very fun. That's fun. They play the rock and roll kind of version of the Spider-Man theme song, which I am always a sucker for.

Rock and roll covers of that song. Well, I also, kudos to the Marvel Cinematic Universe for using the Spider-Man theme and like an orchestrated, it's not the rock and roll version, which is better, but they use like an orchestrated version of the Spider-Man song. Yeah. Which the Raimi versions and the other versions did not. Yeah, the ramy version

stressed me out because it was so much about peter parker's problems and there wasn't as much funny spider-man and then i never saw the andrew garfield one so i can't speak to those but hey a lot more nickelback a lot more nickelback yeah uh that's the only that's the way you get me on this lead singer of seether yeah we i think no i still think that's not it i think we we did this before on the show have we done that we did nickelback or is it just chad crow saliva saliva it's saliva yeah is it just chad croger just chad croger nickelback was only going to hold him back from the heights of greatness that yeah he achieved with hero he but that was like

towards the end of like album sales and singles like he probably made a fortune on that right i would imagine no i mean creatively though like you know that fucking dumbass nickelback bass player was gonna ruin his vision if he didn't fly solo i say yeah yeah he he likes spider-man had to take matters into his own hands to save the world with music hero can save us vindicate it was there a third song i don't remember the song from the third movie i don't think there was a big hit i don't know uh spider-man shuffle i think will smith did one oh that's what he's dancing to a little tale that i'd like to spin does he have a song in aladdin i mean he has a friend like me but he should have his own rap song in aladdin yeah should be a new genie rap that will smith does uh probably not the answer is no they can't go off script yeah they should throw a whole new world in the garbage and he

should fine that trailer came out today he's both blue and not blue in it apparently i haven't watched it yet well they added the the rumor is they added the blue late because people went why the hell isn't he blue he was never gonna be blue so like there's a couple scenes where they added him being blue but as i pointed out on twitter the main thing that they brought to this film is that aladdin says really the g makes aladdin like levitate towards jasmine to go talk to her really this is what aladdin you know that cartoon's okay i guess but i want but it's what it's missing is 13 years after the fact jim halpert moments i mean if if iago could say that's not even a thing i would like that that's not even a thing is yago in the movie you think he's gone i didn't see him in the trailer was he he was abu abu's in it for sure but abu cut from the stage version california adventure yes famously yes famously cut the

carpet a real ham though in the stage version in the movie version you know what that's when the movie when is this movie coming out Is it in a week or something Or is it in like I don't know when When this episode comes out So it's hard to say Dumbo's coming out soon Dumbo's coming out soon

But is Aladdin coming out soon Because we should do California Adventure Ride Oh that'd be a good Maybe Yeah Uh huh Sorry we're getting a lot

Of our internal business Done on today's show Yeah Including showing you An old video I found of you There's a lot of inside baseball stuff here it's in now we have to deliver on this promise of a dry tomorrow sincere tomorrow land yes crying tomorrow land i think we can knock it out of the park i think

that's fine yeah um it's all gonna be great there's a stanley cameo there's multiple there's a bunch yeah i think they gained more when they redid it the one at the oh well i'm talking about the one at the end well what what is the one well there's the one he's driving the garbage truck that's a new re that's in now i'm confused by which one at the end and he's soliciting a hooker on the streets of new york New York. I'm confused. Which one is buying crack from someone? If anyone asks, my name is Steve Ditko.

Steve Ditko. Excelsior. Spider-Man. I don't remember why. Yeah. So there's the truck one that's earlier, but they've added a little voiceover with him on the new ending. And I'm trying to remember what it was.

And I think there's a picture of him in the bullpen on his desk in tribute after he passed away um yeah i don't know that there's any ditko tribute scott this is there is a there is there's his creator in the i forget this part in the office they have mentions of there's a lot i mean they're filing cabinets where all of the names on the filing cabinets are like Mark Gargan, or who's like the Scorpion Mac Gargan. Yeah. Um, and then like all the filing cabinets of like, you know,

silver sable through X-Men. And then there's the trophy case, uh, has like all the universal creative names on it. Yeah. Hidden Mickey is obviously very common, but the hidden Mac Gargan can only be found on the spider-man ride uh mac gargan in the newer movies too right yeah i think so i think he was

one of the henchmen he's uh he's played by the guy who plays nacho on better call saul oh i believe he's good uh he's good steve ditko i that's a big hole i'm fascinated to see if they reissue a lot of that stuff steve ditko like never like let this thing did some work for marvel and dc in the 70s and 80s but kept making self-published comics until he died last year two years ago yeah he died the same year that stan died yeah which is crazy because they were both so old at that point he was just making black and white weird comics like he was a weird guy kind of into object uh objectivism is that the term like uh i don't know like really weird was still obsessed with like hands and eyes like in the early spider-man comics and was kind of mad

kind of mad i think he was very kind of mad but if you hand wrote him a letter it was likely he would write you back right so like you could tell him like hey you uh inspired me you're spider-man stuff and he would write you something nice but i think he was very famously mad at marvel and yeah kind of a crank mad at stan like everybody was and he built his own janky ride just in a field somewhere you'd have to call him but he'd show up and you could, he'd take you on it. He'd unlock the barn where he built it. Yeah.

Just like push a wheelbarrow around. Sure. All the characters are about weird or all the characters in that ride are weird little freaks. Just like all the first 40 Spider-Man comics where everyone is hideously ugly or like an outcast from society. You just stop and stare at a hand for a good yeah 30 seconds or so it's closer to your dream of a ride yeah very close moments uh i also believe we shouldn't i

don't know what the facts is facts are uh jack kirby then after a while claimed that he actually created spider-man there's a whole controversy because stan and jack you know people say you know jack may did like 80 90 of the work and stan did 10 and took credit or whatever especially by the end of fantastic four i think he was right a lot and stuff but then there's other creators that like were there and don't say that's what happened but then jack sort of by the end of his life was saying like go and stand and do it he just created spider-man 2 and it's very unclear like no one was keeping good records of these things or it was literally just like guys like hey you need to create a whole new thing that's going to be a giant hit in 50 years uh can you do it by three

o'clock today and it'd be like i guess i was smoking and then okay here you go here's this spider-man here's a character that will endure the test of time you'll make multiple movies and tv shows out of them i just knocked it out before i got to go home just shitting them out yeah yeah it's pretty amazing well you can everyone can go and enjoy jack curly's shit out drawings in a high-tech environment uh-huh um what uh what have we missed uh we covered a lot of ground almost as much ground as the giant acreage of this very ride but this is one of the biggest ride buildings i feel like on that property yeah massive um yeah i have i have a fun thing at the end that's spider-man related but maybe not this ride related okay great

are we there oh we might be i guess we've been gone for a while yeah we can be good here's the thing i would say so i know we talked about like universal express kind of kind of implemented after the fact like kind of wonky like stuff retrofitted for fast pass the queue for this is great like going through the daily bugle offices all of that so if it's a short wait and you you do have express pass try both go through the express line and then just go through the standby line because i realized like while looking through queue videos like oh yeah i haven't been in that room with the little scoop there's a model of the car you're about to get into and then there's a big projector

screen showing some different cartoon segments yeah that's great let's see those file cabinets i think those are in the express line now i'm not sure has a very large extended queue too which they had to utilize early early on right because i remember waiting a lot outside that first year yeah like the most of it outside, which I don't know where that went, but yeah, I looked up the touring plans for like mid March, like their crowd estimates.

And they were like, yeah, early in the day, probably five minute wait height of the crowds, 60 minutes starting to get the spring break season, but still not very long for like a still grade a attraction. The last two times I went, yeah, we were, I mean, I think we had expressed because we were staying on site but it was still like the

regular time was 20 minutes 20 30 minutes yeah um what do you got we're gonna do i was i want i have a plea i have a question for the audience real quick and then i'll play this thing um uh we're gonna do a lot more marvel stuff we've talked about it uh talked about doing that um but i'm i just if anyone out there has seen pictures from a marvel theme park that we're going to build in dubai like a decade ago they're the greatest pictures they really seem like they would have lived up to my expectations of a marvel park there's pictures of like a crazy time square with what looks maybe like doc ox tentacles coming out and daredevils over here on a billboard. And it's very kind of cartoonish, but not in the way that Islands of Adventure is.

It's like a crazy, it's a little warped version of reality, but it's cool. And it looks like if they built it, it would be awesome. And there's X-Men's mansion stuff and whatever if anyone out there in the audience knows about this gives us has any secret information please message us marvel dubai just look at marvel dubai theme park and you'll see the pictures if you don't know what i'm talking about but if you do know what you're talking about and you have more info yes please just email us at podcast the ride at gmail or dm us on twitter or something uh because it says it was those these sketches were made by a place called chimera designs i believe and i think if i click on that

that website doesn't exist i think that is gone i don't know if it exists anymore maybe it does it's another name or something um uh so yeah message us because we want to do we want to i want to do something on this at the very very least, I want some secret information, please. Yeah. For us to immediately make not secret. Yeah. I mean, we'll keep it secret if we have to. You can pick and choose what you tell us.

Yeah, we're very good about that. So if you have any information on that, please let us know because I would love to do something with it. But now here's, I don't know, I'm sure I've played this for you guys. This is one of my favorite spider-man things okay so this is not um directly related spider-man related so uh there's an album that i did not know about until a year or two ago and it is like a narrative it's like a story spider-man like it's its own story it's not based on like a tv show or anything but there's a theme sung by this man, Ron Dante,

who sang the Archie's hit, Sugar Sugar, and all the other Archie songs. And then he does Spider-Man's voice. Have I played this for you before? I can't remember, maybe. And it's so great. And I wish my plus up for this ride is if they can figure out, and the movies, if they can figure out a way to put this song

in a movie, ride ride whatever it is so here we go spider-man rock comic theme it's like a rock comic like a comic comic comic okay so let me play this because i love it so much Spider-Man Amazing Amazing How does he get through it? Product of the American dream I see him fly I see him fly

You're one of a gay sex machine Sex machine He's a killer if he does that wait no oh i didn't think about it he's a deadly sex machine uh he's a sex suicide machine geez that's a different that's a darker movie ron dante didn't know that that was before his confession we should not blame the song Don't blame Ron We'll post a link to that 1972

Fantastic song I'd go so far as to say The second best song ever inspired By Spider-Man Obviously behind Shag Kroger And the man from Saliva I guess we made it You survived podcast the ride

That was a blast Hey as I said go to YouTube Where you can see the admansers thing And some other fun stuff that we've done And Twitter where you will find The Ron Dante song and learn all About what a sex machine spider-man is And email us any questions

Podcast the road at gmail.com Or any secret info about Marvel Dubai and that's a lot of commands This time yeah sorry fellas No that's a lot of commands this time. Anything else, fellas? No, that's it. I mean, just every, you know, rate and review us on Apple Podcasts and what have you. Yeah.

Any Spider-Man specific commands? Oh, for the rating? In a review. Oh, in the review. Yes. Let's see. Tell us your A-list spider-man villain who's your top top of the list spider-man villain uh or uh give us your best jay jonah jameson uh rant about spider-man being a wall-crawling menace oh so you want them to write like a couple paragraphs

it can be one pair it can be you know, just a letter from the editor. Sure, do that. Freeman is a letter from the editor. It's a letter from the editor. I also like to hear Jameson's thoughts about Chad Kroger. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Now, he's great.

He's great. Now, that's a singer we can all agree on. Wholesome rock and roll. Wild, untamed hair. A true king of the genre. well folks thanks for listening see you next time see you forever dog this has been a forever dog production executive produced by mike carlson jason sheridan scott gerdner brett boehm jo Joe Cilio, and Alex Ramsey. Engineered and mastered by Alex Arche. For more original podcasts, please visit foreverdogpodcast.com

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