Podcast: The Ride - The CityWalk Orlando Saga: Malltiverse of Madness 1 - 2 with Evan Susser

Episode Date: March 9, 2024

Evan Susser (Villain-Con Minion Blast) joins the boys to unlock the mysteries of temp kiosks, sugar pretzels and a possible doughnut deception?? Phase 1, Sector 2 contains: Voodoo Doughnut Auntie Anne’s Waterfront Kiosks (Sapphire) To level up your Saga experience with bonus and ad-free episodes, and for the truth about what Susser did, subscribe to Podcast: The Ride’s Club 3 at  patreon.com/podcasttheride.  FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! When your town has made you frown When your square has made you swear When life gives you one more punch You need a doughnut soaked in Captain Grunge You need a place, a place to stroll With alcohol

A place that features part of the Berlin Wall Where steampunk robots sell chocolate snacks A place where you can tattoo your lower back So let's go take a walk Let's all go to City Walk Orlando tonight. Tonight. Podcast to Ride presents the City Walk Orlando saga. Multiverse of madness. A daily, extremely necessary series exploring the shops, restaurants, and cosmic wonder that make up Universal CityWalk Orlando. Welcome to Podcast the Ride, the CityWalk Orlando Saga, Multiverse of Madness.

Day two, we are back. I hope you listened yesterday. I hope the only way you're consuming this is every day because hearing it back after the fact with days in between, it's not how we're doing it. It shouldn't be how you're doing it. I'm Scott Gairdner. There's Mike Carlson. Yeah, I'm here, and I hope the reality for you listeners is setting in to know that this is coming out every day and that you're not going to be able to keep up with it

unless you give up important parts of your daily routine. Yeah. So you need to realize that right now.'s jason sheridan hi yeah uh we're asking a lot of you yeah look if you're if you're worried about your phone storage space turn off the automatic download follow the episode i don't know what no keep it on what are you doing it's madness we need those downloads that equals cash get the downloads but turn on turn on the delete after you listen no don't do that what if they need to listen to it again patreon ultimately is the answer to all of this For the full Multiverse of Madness experience

Go to patreon.com slash podcast thread It'll solve all of this somehow I would imagine I hope But hey, that's not everybody We gotta bring the other guy in the mix Wait, he's not here again So we have to say the full thing

Basin is now Sanuk Is now California's soul Boys, boys It's good to be back. Hey. Hey. How you guys doing? You guys you spent the night together. We didn't spend the night together. No, no, no. I stayed at

Mike's place, man. Yeah, yeah. Also to catch you up from yesterday, not only is the sector keeper joining us every day, he's also crashing with us. Does he have anywhere else to go? That's kind of in question, but I don't know.

We're trying to be gentlemen here. Yeah, it's just kind of a little bit of a rough patch, and I'm so thankful for it. Mike, man, your place is, you've got a sweet little pad. Yeah, he's sleeping on a shelf. I had to clear some Mighty Mutanimals action figures away for him to have some space. Yeah, I couldn't believe it.

When I walked in, I was like, is this your apartment or a KB toy store, man? Yeah, he said that, which is a good burn. A funny burn. It's a nice thing for him. That's what he wants. He's a child. I was like, I giggled with glee when you said it. Yeah, yeah.

We stayed up most of the night, man, just playing. Yeah, we were playing and we yeah i just recently got the sewer play set so i can really like make a little like diorama of the ninja turtles characters hanging out where do they uh where are the ones what did the ones go when you're not playing with them because you have oh there's well they're on different shelves there's other little dioramas there's a a street diorama. I can put them on. And then I can... There's a lot of different places for them

if they're not participating in the actual sewer layer diorama. I know I'm scheduled to be passed off to Scott tonight, but Scott, can I stay at Mike's tonight? Oh, geez. I mean, I was really looking forward to it, but oh, if you might, I don't want to get in the way of all that fun. You know what?

All right. Sounds old. I guess I can deal. All right. Oh, man. Let's bring our guest into it. I've got so many questions so far. Oh, yeah. You'll be an audience surrogate. We can catch you up. Hey, the first guest of the saga joining us from Peacock's Killing It

and from from of course illuminations villain con minion blast number one Universal Studios Florida it's Evan Susser hey guys excited to be here excited to be returning to City Walk but a different City Walk and excited to finally face be face to face with the sector keeper himself yeah I know he just beamed in for our assignment last time. You guys are together now. So I was curious, the Sector Keeper, you are the same Sector Keeper from the City Walk saga in California,

or is this from another dimension? No, no, I'm the same one. I got a little confused by the Multiverse of Madness. Excuse me, the Multiverse of Madness. Oh, Multiverse. I didn't see it written yeah i heard it said i like that a lot this is good because you may not you may not be the only one with questions i think i understand it all now and naturally so and you're the conceit is that this

is being recorded here in california yes yeah he was sent on a mission. So why did he need to... Dr. Keeper, don't you usually live at CityWalk in California? Yeah, it's like my home base. Right, so why do you need to sleep at people's houses? You're still only 15 minutes away. You missed a lot of story yesterday. Yeah, no, the multiverse, he frees them up to kind of go. He can transport wherever using, you know, jump points and gates. Oh, okay, That makes sense.

Jump points. Got it. Seltzer jump points. He's lived in our real world for many years. He had a job at Cricket Wireless for many years. Right. So he's sort of just been hanging out. It's kind of a liminal state.

I got caught up in what I'll call a commune. Uh-huh. Okay. So you're pretty self-sufficient, it seems like. I'm okay. So then why do you need to be sleeping at people's houses? I just guess it's just nice to have like oh it's just fun like well like jason said three hots and a cop man i get it yes yeah okay he's also yeah yeah a lot of his he's good there's a bunch of his ghost cousins who seem to be like bilking him out of his lottery winning

he won a powerball naturally i won the. I won the Powerball. Oh, cool. Congratulations. Well, it's actually been a curse. Oh. I'm sorry. I'm one of those kind of like cautionary tales. Oh, no. I did a Reddit on it.

You can do, I did an AMA. No, but I don't need to look it up. I got it. Seriously. We can spend some more time with him if you want to hear the whole story. He also asked a bunch of questions and was trying to get out of the questions almost immediately he eventually had his fill of questions that's fair no the point is it's like you know it's it's kind of we've ended up in this multiverse situation it's like uh you know it's a multiverse scenario like the kind you'd see you

know that time he did say multiverse he said multiverse no no i'm saying the multiverse is a multiverse scenario it's like the kind of thing you'd see in a movie like i don't like a superhero movie like i don't know like i didn't make that connection until now but i get it yeah well it's kind of like something like something in like the flash right did you ever see the flash did you ever get a chance to check out that that flick you know i have seen the flash what'd you think of the flash you know i didn I didn't really care for it. I understand this has been a source of some debate on the podcast. Yeah, yes, interesting. That's weird that you say that you didn't care for it,

because when this came up for the first time on a Patreon episode called Holiday in Holodomes. Yeah, Jason's birthday shot. Jason's birthday shot was deviated from when Mike said one of the most insane things I've heard a person say in a while. What you said in the episode was that the Ezra Miller, the flash from last year was not as bad as everyone is saying it is.

Yes, that is what I said. And I screamed at this. It's one of the maddest I've ever seen him. For real. I did. I leaned back from the microphone. Mike. Jason said, please don't fight on my birthday like i just started bawling like i think it was stored up but yeah that was from an old memory coming back yeah but here's what that now now because i've questioned

this opinion um because the flesh many people have said it is quite terrible and i would i would certainly side with them. Sure. This was not your feeling, apparently, and what you spit out was other people you respect agree with me. Well, hold on. What I said was The Flash was not that bad. First of all, which is not The Flash is amazing

or The Flash is my favorite movie. Oh, I know. I know. I said The Flash is, you went back and listened. And then I specifically said the parts of The Flash I like, including the first half and what aspects of it i like and then i said i believe correct me if i'm wrong that other people agreed with me only about that part well i was specifying the parts where someone would agree with me

versus maybe somebody saying the whole flash movie was good or not that but whatever my head we were still a general movie but keeper you want to go get a hoagie or something? I feel like we're not needed for the podcast. No, chime in, chime in. Brother, I thought you'd never ask. Yeah, you guys go get a bite. I think, look, I think, yes, in general, I was saying I was enjoying the Flash more than I thought,

because I went into it thinking, oh, this is going to be a big pile of dog shit. it was not a big pile of dog shit it was maybe a smaller one okay and i and this what you're saying is very reasonable i still think it's a crackpot opinion well i think giant is the only way i watched this film and somehow i got roped into this whole thing i got screamed at to say, give up your sources. Name names. I would pop so quickly if I was under interrogation. I was being waterboarded.

It would come out in two seconds. Who else said something positive about the fledge? I can't point fingers. I flipped on Sam Bankman Fry, man. Oh, no. Were you mixed up in that Seeker Keeper? Because of a jump point? Because of a jump point. Jump point brought him right into the crypto.

Yeah. I invested hard. I won the Powerball. Were you in that relationship with him and the girl? Yeah, the polycule. I was in the polycule. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did this already come up?

Yes. No, it's good to recap. This is important. No, no, no. No, and to clarify, this one's not changed. It's not changed it's not a molecule it's a polycule that one is regular that's regular one dimension um many bodies you name you under under this pressure you named your own wife and you named evan susser as a person who agreed yes in my head maybe we could parse what that but i feel like it was saying that you, that Cesar generally thought the flash was not

as bad as everyone's been saying. I believe the sequence of words backs what I'm saying up. Okay. But it was in the heat of the moment. I don't know. Maybe things were placed in the wrong position as far as, so I'm not even sure. I can't quite remember. It's a real Rochamon.

It's a bit of a roshamon it's a bit of a roshamon i even could you know i wasn't under such duress actually the biggest movie i do like if the biggest well i hate that it's not a divisive opinion i feel like part of a cinematic universe of some kind uh if only if only he only made one movie at a time. He wasn't setting up nine. I should have said, you know what I should have said? Andrew Grissom, friend of the show, is also a liker of Parts of the Flash. What do you mean? Well, I'll investigate that one.

Text him right now. Say, are there parts of the Flash you like? Or are amused or enjoyable? Let me get into, let me bring up the... This opinion stayed with me for hours. We were done with the recording for hours. And I texted the both of you and I said, guys, you're insane. And Susser was like, what are we talking about?

And I said, wait a minute. I have the transcripts. The two Ezras is one of the most irritating things I've ever seen. That's the part I was talking about. You're insane. Your response was LOL what? All caps. And soon after you said,

I said I hated the movie. You know, this is like pretty niche and specific and we should get onto the much broader appeal of breaking down Orlando City Walk. Of course, yeah. We can do a tangent timer, by the way. Oh, sure. We can cut this off. We better set it soon because, by the way. Oh, sure. We can cut this off.

We better set it soon because I have more stuff. I have things. Okay. You know, like you, I had heard. This is like a portal. We're in a portal right now. Well, if they're able to tap into the speed force, time is just an illusion.

That's true, yeah. We're all slowing down time to talk about this for who knows an hour an hour and a half and if there's a cosmic treadmill in here oh boy well it's gonna take a while i i guess i've i i'm curious just for your thoughts about this because i felt like when we were discovering that in that moment i i think that mike's uh mike had severely misinterpreted your take on this. Yeah, I would say there's a little bit of a misinterpretation, but also maybe a little bit of, you know, a little bit of a witch hunt going on here, Scott.

But who, me? Does this seem like the kind of thing I do on this podcast? This guy doesn't hunt witches. But I did not enjoy the movie. I watched it i think partially because carlson uh mike we were texting about it said oh it's actually not that bad and i think i initiated the conversation by saying you're wrong well you said i'm not sure if it's not so but you are you sure i can get on board with the it's not so bad thing yes yes and then i think that you know yeah but mike's a very

persuasive and likable guy and you know even on text and even on text it comes through yeah with the part with the asgore's and i guess we discussed some other parts i guess we broke some other parts that i really didn't like including him saving a baby in space now that's a different we all deserve i i believe the baby scene is good so the mic and you're trying to save face right now and you're doing that by saying i have compiled something called the flash report this is a printout with a logo of the flash a physical report is coming a revelation that Mike has a functioning printer in 2024. You said that to me once before. You're baffled by someone having a printer.

All mine just keep breaking. How many? How many printers are broke? Like two or three, I feel like. I don't think it's a strange thing. Do you have a printer, sister? I do have a printer, yeah. I think a lot of people have printers.

I'm going to the library. I'm going to the library. I'm going to FedEx, Kinko's. They give away printers at this point. I got too many printers. I got one in the garage that's not hooked up. Give one to Jason. Give it to Jason. What kind of printer is it?

You're going to ask what kind of printer is it? You list to go to the library. You list to pay per copy. Is it a 3D printer? You're going to pay taxes on it? Is it a gift? Are you paying gonna pay taxes on it is it a gift are you paying taxes you get gifted a plastic printer yeah is it a sandwich printer what's in your report michael well i just have time code and uh different lines and things we

don't have to read all of it i'm just saying i went through some of the scenes that i liked i said two and basically the way hbo max are now max uh plays that it kind of counts down sort of what you have left so you know two hours 23 minutes 29 seconds i like the actor playing the barista and i believe i haven't even agreed with me that he liked this guy and some of the lines especially this you can't rush a good sandwich dude line i believe we agreed wait a minute wait a minute me saying that a movie is a giant pile of shit like a like truly an era defining shows you everything that's wrong with that's that's

rotten in our culture right now a movie like that can't have two one actor who doesn't fuck up this is a report here fully uh of different things we'd like again i don't have to read all of it i'm just saying there's enough things to me to add up here many pages well go to the middle what's in the middle and publish the whole report publish the flash paper all right i'll publish the whole hold on where's the middle and if things are lagging in the episode throw out a random part of the flash you like that'll pick it up that's good yeah that's good hold on one second where's the middle is there a Flow away in the wind. We got the garage door open.

All right, hold on. Let me just read. Hold on. Let me read the middle of this thing. Finish reading this. Can you explain how this leaked on WikiLeaks? When Ezra says that he goes, he goes, Ezra says the mic just cut out when I tried to talk.

That's never happened before. The mic cut out. It's the ghost of Nick mundy oh no it is he teleported wow the multiverse is full of magical things yeah you need to replug in your microphone no it's fine now wow it literally shorted out when i was trying to talk the world's trying to tell you something about the flash says he has to he goes shit and he goes i have to shit that's funny that was a funny line did i agree that? We never talked about that line. I can't imagine I agreed with that.

I think you forgot it though. We never talked about it. Also in your text exchange, there was something you said. Okay. After a while of Carlson defending it, I maybe said, I guess that the two Ezras are an okay part.

When you said it was the best stuff in the movie, but I said the movie was terrible. So to me, that was a very low bar. I don't believe, I believe, I movie but i said the movie was terrible so to me that was a very low bar i don't believe i believe i mean fair enough he was being nice to me he never said terrible you did say you were right you said you were right the movie really fell off in the second half yeah the movie and then i said the baby part is right at the beginning it does get even worse the second half of the movie is bad don't get me wrong yeah we're not arguing this yeah yeah um there's a part where they call uh boba fett the guy who plays boba fett

you remember this no and then he thinks he's the he thinks he's aquaman and he said he's like is this arthur curry and he goes yeah yeah and then he goes is your wife the queen of atlantis and then he looks over and this is like a lady with a sweatshirt looking at the TV. Funny, funny stuff. You don't even remember. I know we're rushing. That one, and I don't want to do this. I think I need like a five minute breakdown of that to understand what that block of words even meant.

All right. Well, we don't have time. I'm trying to, you should laugh. First of all, just do me the favor and everyone laugh about it right now. Is it just that he's a guy named Arthur? Only sister. That's just the only true friend.

He's gone to a different universe where there's no Aquaman, where there's not any metahumans anymore. So he's calling around to figure out who actually is still around. Boys, boys. Probably a good time to remember that the sector keeper has, in the past

you've coughed and lost strength when we weren't staying on topic. If you need to cough, feel free to cough. Oh, goodness gracious. I'm just trying to wrap my head around what's happening. You seem like you fell asleep during most of that with a cigarette hanging out of your mouth. And you really should be careful about that. Yeah, get off my back, man.

What are you doing? All right. This is what's going to happen if you go stay with Jason. If you spend the weekend with Jason, then he's going to be, wait a minute, I should be building up Jason. No, you'll have a fun time with Jason. You'll have a fun time, but you've got to smoke outside. This guy has hot dogs for every meal.

He'll have so many hot dogs. That's right. Get over there. Jason can prepare hot dogs nine different ways. Sure. Boiled, pan fried. Boiled, then pan fried. Oh, wow.

Baked. Grilled. Huh? Grilled. Grilled. Blended. Put into a blender. Drink like a milkshake.

That's a little ridiculous, but yeah. I'm trying to get to nine. Sous vide. Raw. Raw. It's kind of nasty. What are we at? Sous vide. Raw. Raw. It's kind of nasty. What are we at?

Seven? Okay, broiled. Different from boiled. Yeah, one letter off. Yeah, one letter off. In blankets? And then, yeah, in blankets. Blanketed.

Blanketed. Like baked. Wow. Hey. All right. We didn't even get to deep frying. Yeah, that's true. Bonus points Mike can I stay at Jason's tonight

Well Thanks Have fun hot dogs 10 ways for you Okay well look maybe we should move to our assignment Sector keeper Can you give us today's Especially you'll be interested to know

It's now not just sectors it's also there's phases. Oh, yeah, I figured. Okay. Yes, of course, of course. Boys, boys, Susser, thank you so much. You give me strength. Thank you for being here. I don't know why I'm starting this like a keynote speech.

You're a good person, a good father uh phase one sector two voodoo donut auntie ann's and waterfront kiosks north or as i know it sapphire okay wait you've got us a new mechanism here so north okay different gemstones designate different kiosk zones okay so if you had a jump point make sure that you have that particular gemstone you have to have it with you the gemstone so designate different kiosk zones. Okay. So if you had a jump point, make sure that you have that particular gemstone. You have to have it with you, the gemstone? Someone should have it. Wait a minute.

Sorry. This is like that flash joke. Say it again. In order, if we're at a jump point, we need to make sure that we have our sapphire gem that we'll get after the end of this. Yeah. And the joke is, i've got a shit when he says it is funny

i wish there were two sector keepers oh maybe in the future oh there's an idea oh the flesh has given us all kinds of ideas. Okay, well, I think you... Oh, and you know what? A little bit of backstory. Evan, we had you on recently to talk about the ride that you wrote, VillainCon, Minion Blast, and when you were down

there doing actual Universal Studios work, we pounced on you. Wait a minute. Suster's there. We gotta to get him to do something. It's true. This was a long time ago now. I have no idea how long ago. A long time.

But you said, hey, while you're down there, can you head over to CityWalk? And, you know, it was pretty busy when I was down there. And I was like, you know, from start to finish, it was a 12-hour day. But, you know, day ended, and I saidhour day but you know day ended and i said well i've made a promise more work much less well-paid work royal pacific not too bad on universe and hopped on the boat and took a little cruise down the city walk which i don't know you i assume you guys have you know a little bit like painted the picture of what orlando city walk is like maybe not enough still but the fact that you do take like what that it is all along a lake or a big waterway

and that uh boats or water taxis as we'll get into tomorrow maybe it should have been in your sector uh we had flash stuff to go over though um but the hotels connect city walk and then you can walk to the theme parks yeah so it was it was really great just to be on that boat and just see i could see as i approached the voodoo donuts which on the one hand i said is this insane there's a voodoo donuts that i can go to any time that's 12 minutes from my house and i'm exhausted but i gotta get on this boat this specific voodoo donuts to go to this specific Voodoo Donuts, which I don't even think they have a regionally specific menu,

but okay, here I am. And do you like the first Voodoo Donuts? No, I don't. Yeah, no, not particularly. But I am. So I got there, and it's so much more, as you mentioned, Sector Keeper, because it's also the Waterfront North or sapphire kiosk yes yes

good man good man the kiosk for me is what really got exciting um should we jump right into my experience or is there more that you guys wanted to talk about or set up in this no and i don't know how much order matters if there's an if there's a flow through this that works for you i think now that you've established that you're a good man searcher keeper is going to let you do it however you want yes well first of all right away i see the kiosk that is fat tuesday which is kind of a new orleans themed yeah uh you know getting like daiquiris and those kind of drinks frozen daiquiris big tall mushy colorful drinks yes so you can drink right there on the board while you walk at city

walk and i was like whoa hey we're not in california city walk right away i'm realizing that i'm like oh the vibe is different here especially at the north or sapphire kiosk that's right we haven't talked about this yet how you know if you remember uh the original city walk saga that we went to a dueling piano bar and there was all kinds of crazy logic of like somebody has to walk your drink yeah like a 10-foot walkway just due to all the insane liquor rules um none of that in city city walk orlando's vegas you can just walk around with drinks it's great it did feel like vegas uh you know this i think that uh city walk here feel in california feels like a place for like middle schoolers to hang out and this felt like

oh this is like high school or like first year of college yeah But not our age. So right away I got in there and I just got myself a drink, a very sugary sweet drink. It was not great, but very fun to be able to just have that thing. Now something to establish,

I forgot that there was a mini Fat Tuesday kiosk. Fat Tuesday, and I'll confer the Cetra Cuber Mixtures. As far as I recall, you laid out, you gave us a guide map. And Fat Tuesday, the standing establishment, is in a different sector and even phase, I believe. So we'll cover, there are two different Fat Tuesday outposts. So we'll deal with that one down

the road of course of course all right worlds of difference i don't know anything that's applicable about yours no but please good we said good man good man thank you yeah yeah um then you also have the auntie ann's kiosk which you know is great i it was easy to just get uh stop by get some pretzel bites. I got those. It was nice. I sat in the chairs. It's really like a nice little setup that you can just be enjoying, be on the water with your daiquiri.

Wow. Now, weirdly, waterfront kiosks are kind of like a general area, but the CityWalk map hasie ann's as a separate thing right so auntie ann's by their designation doesn't count within the waterfront kiosk i have i think i have a little bit of because i did some investigating while i was down there oh wow then unfortunately there was also the the wraps and braids kiosk where you could get your hair braided or face paint uh was unfortunately closed uh because i would have done that wow would you have done that for us yeah i think that would have been a good picture um and then surprisingly there is also um and i asked you guys how to say it and i now i'm forgetting but an anime or manga kiosk you got your naruto your dragon ball z diamond slayer what's that i don't know that one so maybe

it's video games i don't know but uh it definitely looks like there's some dragon ball stuff it was and i asked them said, is this a permanent? Like, this is always here. And they explained to me that some of the kiosks rotate and change what they are. So maybe that's why Auntie Anne's is on the map. Because maybe it's a permanent one. And maybe some of these other ones kind of. Portals.

Portals. Yeah. They rotate it through different portals. And then they have, in addition to the Voodoo Donuts, the store, portals. They rotate it through different portals. In addition to the Voodoo Donuts, the store, they also have the giant chair of donuts, which I don't know. Do they have that here in California?

The throne is really good. I, of course, got a picture on the throne. Jason did one, right? I got a picture on the throne, yeah. It was late at night and there was also a long line for Voodoo Donuts.

Insanely long line at that location. Is that not the case in Hollywood? There's always something of a line. I've seen it. I've seen it where it's short

but oftentimes there is a line to go and get it. Get them. And I asked myself at that point, do I really need to extend this trip for 30 more minutes to just get the exact same donuts that I could get? There was a kiosk, there was a little shed

where if you mobile ordered, you could pick up your Voodoo Donuts there. And it seemed sporadically open i did not i did not see it yeah it's separate from the on more closer to the water i did not see it i did not see it open and i thought to myself well if i come on the podcast and say i didn't go it will be very disappointing and sad for the listeners so my it might make the sector keeper lose strength. Yes, thank you. So my two options were either to lie or to tell the truth.

But if I were to tell the truth, I felt like I would have to do it. Because I couldn't say I didn't do it. I could either, if I wanted to tell the truth, I would have to wait in line, get a voodoo donut and another donut or whatever or lie and make up a whole story about how i got it and what i got and there's no way you could just make that up right there's no way you could just look up what they have on the website it was pretty good i. They would know. It was pretty good. I thought it was pretty good. If to make a lie more believable, do you even introduce the idea of a lie?

Because why would a liar do that? Why would they say that they thought about lying if they were going to lie? So I contemplated all of that. But I said, hey, for the podcast, I'm going to do it. I waited on the long line i took some picture for some other families and i got a voodoo donut and the bubble gum one which i believe you can also get in california i asked are there any special ones and they like didn't hear me and i didn't ask again and i got my donuts and at that point I was very tired and kind of in a grumpy mood, and I waited in line to get back on the boat. That was your entire outing?

That was my entire outing. What was the amount of time that all took? Well, the whole beginning part was probably, like, because I was rocking and rolling at the beginning. I got, like, one line up, no line for the margarita, no line for getting the Antiennes. I got a conversation. conversation that was all like probably 10 minutes i took a picture and then it was like probably 30 minutes waiting for voodoo donuts now you or the whole trip was 20 minutes and i lied well this is this is where you know this is a pod uh we show our work on this podcast as evidenced by the the forms that mike brought out

i don't suppose you have a photograph of one of those voodoo donuts do you We show our work on this podcast as evidenced by the forms that Mike brought out. I don't suppose you have a photograph of one of those voodoo donuts, do you? Let's see. What do I have in my universe? The photo on the throne. So he definitely did the throne. He did do the throne. And it's up to you. Does his mouth need to have touched a donut in order for his participation to qualify?

Well, he's introduced an interesting aspect that I never thought of, is that you could lie. Yeah. You've never, like, as a being, you've never thought that you could lie? Yeah, well, you know, I'm just trying to wrap my mind around it.

It's like the invention of lying for you. What if there wasn't lying and one guy thought of lying? It's a pretty good movie idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could be. Am I wrong in that you learned about lying in the Downtown Disney ordeal?

For the first time? For the first time? I think that didn't seem right. I don't know, but it was four years ago. Who knows? I think someone on this podcast in six years learned about lying.

Oh, he's smoking. Okay, never mind. All those clove cigarettes. Yeah, yeah, that happens. They cloud the mind, you know? But I'll say You know this This conundrum

That Susser brings up Is still one of the Simplest aspects Of the ordeal Yeah Of the saga Excuse me Much like the flesh

You learn a lot Of information You're on boarded With a lot of stuff And if you understand All six levels of information you're onboarded with a lot of stuff and if you understand all six levels of it you're laughing that's this series could you question susser and learn just by kind of looking into his soul so because because you're sort of an otherworldly so just maybe ask him a few simple questions and see i am part of once you die your spirit is almost like a lie detector of sort oh

great right oh perfect so susser if you're comfortable i suppose i am i'll i will now stare into your soul okay susser yes you went to voodoo donuts yes you sat in the throne i did yes yes you stood in line yes while in line, could you see a menu? Could I see a menu? No, actually. The menu is when you walk into the store itself. It's not out when you're outside when you're waiting in line. So you have been looking at the menu.

What do you see? Name a few. When you reach that point. When you reach that point. Well, it's big and bright and okay checks out has a list of the donuts sure can i ask for clarification do you have any idea how many months ago as we record this this occurred was it within the year was it in 2023 uh i believe so okay but maybe early in 23 okay another point of clarification uh you also

had just worked 12 hours and we're doing this as a favor yes that's correct okay so you're looking at the menu and what catches your eye uh well nothing to be honest uh because i was also as you said it would have been 12 hours and i was doing it as a favor and typically you know if i'm on another a food driven podcast i would maybe you know really want to get the best thing on the menu or a real comprehensive thing i had also as a part of that 12 hour day i think i had uh i did a food tasting for uh and treats at Minion Cafe. So I had already eaten a fair bit of donuts. Of sugar.

Of sugar. Jason's hat just flew over. That's your job? Quite a bit. So either that was part of the motivating factor that told me, you don't need to have a donut. Just lie and say you went. Or that was a motivating factor that told me, you don't need to have a donut, just lie and say you went. Or that was the motivating factor that

made me say, I'm just going to get the voodoo donut and I guess a bubblegum one, or if they have a special one, which they didn't seem to immediately suggest. You could have just texted me and I would have just said, like, just save yourself some

just say the phrase buttermilk bar and we'll move on just say the phrase long john yeah you wouldn't have had the ghost of a child interrogated yeah we wouldn't have had to do all that waterboarding that we didn't we cut you know what do you what do you think now i think i think that he went i think that he had a donut wow thank you i feel like yeah you know where you got me was with the specifics of the menu and the like and it was it was over here but not up there that did seem kind of that's felt specific i guess you could have seen all that without going into the store he said the menu was bright mmhmm

that's an adjective remember that that feels like from experience yeah hmm does anybody what do we think

and I cannot believe this I was looking through my pictures and I because again I was thinking about this whole thing as I was you know in line

and I thought oh I'll bring up the idea and I could lie and then I said well you gotta remember to take a picture with the donut and I am sure i did but i cannot find the oh well that's very convenient it is but also why would i bring that up at this point we've moved on only the sector keeper can say if we've moved on yeah he's the one who's the only yes the throne

is inside yes the throne is outside wait the sector No. The throne is outside. The throne is outside. Oh. Wait, the center keeper didn't know that? Well, he's not really, he keeps the- Oh, the jump points. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he hasn't been to City Walker Lando. He's concerned about it. Takes a lot out of him. It takes a lot.

Oh, goodness. I don't know. But part of my point of talking about the kiosks of the Waterfront North or Sapphire is that to make the case that this sector is so much more than the Voodoo Donuts, even though that seems to be leading the name, I think that it should be called Waterfront Kiosks North and Voodoo Donuts. And Antean's is separate because it's on the map. Don't forget. But that could be last, maybe?

I'll also say right behind Voodoo Donuts there is a giant, always empty bathroom and some very old pressed penny machines that I somehow managed to get all four of these slightly

different Incredible Hulk designs on these. Really? They're all partially functioning. No, the other ones like Spider-Man and SpongeBob. But there is one machine that has probably been there since like 2000 that is just slight variations on the Hulk. By an empty, like an always empty bathroom? By an always empty bathroom.

So it's a random one you get? Or are you playing it like a slot? How many pennies do you carry with you? Well, I don't have any right now. Well, how many smash pennies do you have on you? From going to the train tracks? Yeah. Whoops. on you well from going to the train tracks yeah whoops but did you bring pennies to city walk to

get the press pennies i don't think you do that anymore these ones oh they just they come out because they cost yeah i thought it was like a like a two dollars then you put a penny in no you can pay cash or you can do like apple pay really then it's kind of like you sort of don't know what you're gonna get or i just didn't understand it but we just got turned in the crank but i did get all four uh incredible for how much money a hundred dollars five dollars like at least what a value but isn't the fun of the press penny machine that you put your penny in and then you see what happens? Like it transforms your penny?

Well, back in the day. Okay, so but now they have their own pennies set aside in the machine for you. So if you just have a card or a phone. That seems less fun, doesn't it? Am I crazy? You're not watching your penny. I think it's been a long time since that's been the case. I think they've been running a scam on this for um disneyland ones do that well they're the disneyland

100 coins that taryn killam was talking about i did apple pay on one of those once and i wanted one coin and they're like here's your four coins and And like, it was like $20. My gosh. So you paid $20 for four pennies? I was tempted into buying four. No, not the Hulk, but the Disney anniversary ones. Right, but are those pennies or are those just different coins? Those are like slugs. Those are like the size of like half dollars.

So it can't just be the cost of a penny. No, I understand. That's not a business. You're paying for the labor. No, I understand that. For the labor of the machine. I understand that's not a business you're paying for the labor for the labor of the machine I understand that but I'm saying they've taken away

it used to be a quarter and a penny and then it was 50 cents and a penny and now yeah they just fucking go wild so they've they've taken away

the transformational aspect of it I think that I think that maybe has been decades that there has been smashed penny machines really this reminds me of the episode where you we went to it was the K1 speed where we went to like Maybe has been decades that there has been smashed penny machines. Really?

This reminds me of the episode where you, we went to, it was the K one speed where we went to like, it was an arcade and it's not tokens. It's a card. Yeah. And you guys are both like, Oh, that's the new thing now is the cards.

They're doing the cards these days. I'm like, I think it's been 15 years or more of cards. It's been a look at Dave and busters have been around for a while with those cards. I agree with that, but they are doing Deep in the card era

Well I'll I'll do a little research And find out if there's any Real machines left In this world Okay The authentic machines Well my

You know what But I don't think that matters What you need is a Is a machine that is Crushing your penny Built This Millennium

Built since 2000 I see what you're saying. Do they still make new ones the old-fashioned way? Right, okay. Or also, has it never been your penny getting crushed? Has this always been? Holy shit. Whoa.

I don't know. Wow. I don't think any of us have. None of the five of us have the answer to that. It could be fake the whole time. It's just pressed copper that's already pressed. They might have them already. No, no, no. There's not a copper heating mechanism

in many of these machines. Wow, really? Maybe. I don't know. I mean, this is a thing at carnivals. Can we trust a carnival to not do tricks? No, we can't. Wow. Oh my gosh. I also should say, I patronized one of the kiosks. Which kiosk?

The North kiosk. Whoa. There was a kiosk. In Sapphire Sector? Yeah, in Sapphire Sector. Okay, go ahead. Oh, and this was after I had been there. Yes.

You didn't ask any of them if they had seen somebody go into a Voodoo Donuts or not, did you? No, I didn't. Okay, good. No. Which kiosk? Which would have been answered with like yes what yes i see people all day i'm there right next to it there's a photo of a man uh yes he's at

the premiere of the movie fist fight uh you've seen this man and so anyway what which cast there was a sports kiosk because it was still football season and it was mostly like teens from the northeast so it was like patriots and eagles but then all the florida colleges and jane went to ucf and she's like oh look at that ucf tumblr and i was like oh well you need let's get you a souvenir let's get so i bought her like the metal you know a cup with the metal straw and lid and stuff so it's really rotating kiosk became a football kiosk yeah i could see it changing of like when football season's over maybe it's basketball and then maybe it's baseball but the multiverse is twisted man yeah yeah it goes it goes they go from one reality to the other, into different universes. That's right.

So the baseball one goes into a wormhole, and that kiosk moves into a different reality. Wow. There might be a step between phases where the three of us get crushed like pennies. That's how we get into the next. It has to be. It's infinite. Yeah, that's how it works. And some of the pennies already were in the machine.

Ooh, let down. I know. Let's not get mixed up with those. Yeah. What's next for the sector keeper after this? Are there other sectors of other places? I don't know. I mean, he's been a little ambiguous, I'd say,

about what we're trying to solve here. I can't get into it. This is a great question, but I can't get into it. You just have to know CityWalk Orlando is not as simple as it seems. Oh, yeah. That's all he'll say to us. Yeah. That makes sense.

For every beginning, there's an end. Right. And every end, there's a beginning. Oh, okay. I don't know if you ever thought about that. Wow, wow. I think the cigarette's lace that I'm smoking. You're talking crazy talk i didn't know you like to get wet yeah man what what is getting wet mean when there's pcp in that oh that's what

that means did you know yeah i don't remember your training day movie, your famous scenes from the long, long ago movie training day when he goes, I didn't know that you liked to get wet. Oh, wow. He's laced Ethan Hawke's cigarette with PCP. Oh my goodness. Or joint with PCP. Usually when Jason says,

oh, you want to get wet, he means go on the Popeye ride at Islands of Adventure. Yeah. Not smoke PCP. Or he wants to do a cannonball in the wave pool. Yeah. Yeah. Not smoke PCP. Or he wanted to do a cannonball in the wave pool. Yeah.

Yeah. On the high dive. Have you guys, or Sector Keeper, maybe you know, how often do people jump into the river at City Walk or the lake or whatever?

The waterways. I do know, but I'll let these guys go first. Is that a problem? It seems like it would be, especially with Fat Tuesday, you know, supplying. Yeah, yeah.

It takes away inhibitions. I don't know. I've never looked up, like, the crime blotter on that. I'll say a general thing. I was talking to a friend of the show, texting with a friend of the show, Matt Cardona, and he made it seem like CityWalk used to be a hotspot, a wilder spot, perhaps, and now it is not. Where is the hotspot now?

Or just... I think it's maybe on I-Drive somewhere, more so than it is not the hot spot now or just it's i think it's maybe on i drive somewhere more so than it is city walk yeah disney springs and city walk definitely seem like they pulled back on operating hours yeah they're not 2020 they're not looking maybe for it to be a place where people are inspired to jump in the water anymore uh it feels like maybe that even though you can still drink and walk around there's it doesn't feel lively uh at night in in some of these spots not that that's a bad thing as well as we will figure out as we go on but i'm sure there were some incidents where someone had you know too many long island iced teas at an altar bridge concert at hard rock

live that's true yeah stumbled out you know is altar bridge a religious band uh i think it's all uh like it's it's the members of creed without scott stapp yeah so it's a little little harder but it's got some good messages you know yeah harder without they finally they're finally free to rock as hard as they always wanted to yeah dragging them down. You know, they were all changed after they filmed that music video in Universal Florida. Right. Yeah.

Well, why don't we get closer to maybe a Jason definition of getting wet, which is having an odd type of pretzel. Because, Mike? Well, you know, can I just quickly say that i got a voodoo donut yes um and i got it to go and i ordered it on the mobile on the app ah and i have a photo of it did you get at the shed i you're saying shed and i'm confused it just seems like a really unfinished kiosk i think it was just like a little window at this at the restaurant like a bunch of no no i'm saying across from the restaurant there was a pickup spot oh no i didn't go to that shed no

no i got it at the yeah i just went in there in the physical okay yeah and for some reason i can't find the name of it but i got just to go i was gonna go eat it at the hotel when i as i was leaving so yeah you would think that these donuts should be able to travel uh somewhat in a bag and they put it in a bag and i look it has some orange cream on the outside uh and it just immediately started leaking seeping through the bag as i was carrying it just immediate like what that didn't they test that out like that the frosting wouldn't just like push its way through the membrane of the paper who's through as if being pushed in like a crushed penny machine yeah they're very messy the voodoo donuts i had similar problems with mess and so i so then i tried to open i tried to

open the bag and the donut stuck to the bag and the tissue paper so thoroughly that just taking the donut out destroyed the donut. This looks like Garfield got crushed by a car. And which donut was this again? Well, I'm going to have to go back and find the name of it, but it's basically like an orange cream donut on a stick.

So it's like kind of a fun, like you're having a popsicle or something. But the whole donut was ruined. It was destroyed just by trying to retrieve it from the bag. So then I just tried to like lick it while it was still stuck to the bag and have a piece of it. And, and it was, again, it's voodoo donuts. It's not very good.

It's not that good. I don't think this is maybe the original, the real ones, but the theme park iterations because i ended up i'm like let me remember maybe i could find something that actually really satisfies me i went up to the hollywood one maybe i'll get something weird and funny or or that my son can have some i don't even want an entire donut to myself look i'm not i'm not the person to judge donuts i don't have a lot of them but i don't this was not especially it was fine i've had better things just like from trader joe's pre-packaged and it was three dollars for

one donut i don't think this is a good at least the theme park iterations i don't think are good i don't i don't know what's going on here i haven't had the portland one the only good thing you can say i know for sure and i don't know if they're still doing it and we mentioned it in the last saga is that the portland one at at least at a certain point was giving you the option to buy a bucket of miss shapen of miss shapen yeah so you could so to me this predates the podcast but they've been talking about miss shapenens for years and years. Now, they've expanded the original one, and the company's gone through, like, they had some labor issues. A guy died in Denver trying to eat the cake-sized donut in, like, under 90 seconds.

What? Fuck. He choked on it. Shit. Oh, my God. And then they were trying to open a location in new orleans in the french quarter and between like uh historical you know preservationists and actual voodoo practicers they were like we don't we don't want this they got too cocky being so close to the fat

tuesday kiosk oh yeah They felt they were part of it We're basically in New Orleans already It's a creamsicle donut and it has a little Universal Orlando Some sort of Little sign that you can eat It doesn't remotely resemble That looks nothing like the other folks

That is what I tried That is what it looked like when I opened up the bag Wow It was just like it had been in an accident or something. And I had just carried it in a bag. A legend to death. Yeah, I just carried it in a bag to the hotel. That stick is adding a whole other level of competition.

That can't have helped keep it together, you know? The stick didn't help. The popsicle stick. I don't think the stick helped. I don't think the stick helped, but I don't know. It's like poking it in the bag, you know? Oh, it may be. Oh, it punctured it, causing an ooze out.

Potentially. I don't know. Jason's like the Richard Feynman of Challenger Explosion. He's trying to break it down. He's figuring out what happened. Okay, it's a horror film. Anatomy of a fall. Yes.

Anatomy of a fall. Yes. Spare changing brood donuts. Jason, I'll send you the photos, and if you want to perform a full forensics analysis, please. Can we cut out Anatomy of a Spill so it can be a Doughboys episode? Get to work. I'm a little excited to hear it in nine months. I mean, as the donut enthusiast,

I don't know that I've loved anything I've had from Voodoo either. The price is not great, certainly. And in Los Angeles, from that city walk, there's like half a dozen local donut shops near it I realize I have a photo of when I finally got it out of the bag and this is what it looked like

this is the situation yeah and again it wasn't even like you could tell it was like stale-ish they're all kind of stale it feels like it's almost like their thing is to have them all taste bad a little bit do we yeah do we think fallen brother soon no people love it no hyped and there's a line at the door it should be i think it should be a fallen brother

people seem to like it yeah get something better in there um i think there's let me correct let me all right bucket of miss shapens is good but there is something else to bring up about this, and I didn't know about this in the previous saga, and this is true of both CityWalk locations. Both of them can provide legal weddings. You can have a full wedding ceremony in the Voodoo Donuts, and I mean, they will provide an ordained person to perform the ceremony. The Hollywood one's smaller, right? So you can only invite 13 people.

But Orlando, you can invite 60. Oh, wow. You can have a 60-person wedding at that Voodoo Donuts, as well as Denver and Austin. And with that, you get a legal wedding ceremony, seven staff-picked Voodoo dozens, a donut heart centerpiece, the couple's name spelled out in donuts. seven staff-picked voodoo dozens, a donut heart centerpiece,

the couple's name spelled out in donuts. You get bride and groom custom donuts where they look like you. No, they don't. They look like you if you get smushed in it. Staff-picked dozens, like it's our wedding. We'd actually like to pick the donuts. No, Gary's going to pick them donuts no gary's gonna pick them experts only um you don't know what you're doing sorry it's the end of the night we don't got a lot

and three air pots of coffee as needed wow they're not just gonna put those out it's really do we want coffee or what's the vibe do we want it or not airpods it's eight o'clock at night you don't want the coffee right you just want milk you want milk it's at the shed cross the walkway if you if you see goku you've gone too far so there's uh some married men here but uh you know in the future just file away that you could do your ceremony. You got a price quote on that? No I think you gotta inquire further. Inquire.

Inquire. Well I can shoot them an email. They do warn you they need at least a week's notice. Oh wow. So they're really booked. This is a high class ceremony. Donuts that get stale. they do warn you they need at least a week's notice oh wow so they're really booked this is a high class ceremony donuts that get stale yeah what if you wanted to marry one of the donuts they don't specify that yeah some of their donuts look like a little guy

you can't wait actually you can do it but the staff has to pick it okay um so there you go well that's we've learned a lot. You can get married there, and we've learned this is not a good donut place, and nobody should go. And regardless of whether you went or not, Evan, I can't quite tell, but we shouldn't have made you. How much do we owe you? It was my pleasure, guys.

It was my pleasure. Okay, great. Well, it was our pleasure to treat you with something else. Here's something I'm sure everybody's going to want. Auntie Anne's snacks that were purchased hours ago. Ice cold, baby. We've been recording. It was in a progressively colder environment with the garage door open.

Sent Mike on a crowded Sunday. Oh, it was awful. Went to a busy mall so we could get a little taste of Downingtown, Pennsylvania. Originally founded in Downingtown, Pennsylvania. Of course, Ann Biler raised in an Amish sect, and then they converted to a Mennonite sect. The sound, the smell just hit me so hard in the face. I love that smell.

Let me poke around that, brother. What does he got? What do you got? Open it not too close from the mic. What is it? Little hot dog nugs. Little hot dog nugs. Jason does not contrive these

phrases. Jason, there's your tenth way to make a hot dog nugs Jason does not contrive these phrases They come straight out of his brain Jason there's your tenth way to make a hot dog Pretzel Yeah pretzel Now these Filled me at Wetzel's If you remember the previous City Walks

Oh yeah not Wetzel's in Orlando It's Auntie Anne's Oh we got pretzels too Are those regular or what's going on with them? Marlboro at Universal. This is like a dessert pretzel. Now, is anyone going to take any of it? Evan's going for it.

It's such a keeper. I've already died once. Jason, how are you liking those nugs? Nice and chilly. I like them'm i was trying to take less and it wouldn't let me mike let me get a little cinnamon crumble jason called it a classic let me get some of that classic he said classic he said oh we've got a big piece of classic we're all talking about stale oh boy this is his chewies as chewy as... I mean, it's not awful. Not awful.

It's really up to you, Jason. You're the only true arbiter. Well, you know, the thing with Annie Ann's is that they're usually pretty greasy, pretty buttery and wet, and these are cold and dry, so it's an interesting experience. Well, you're seeing how they hold up to the elements. Like my Voodoo Donuts didn't hold up. I would say that these don't either. Either the classic or the sweet.

The sweet maybe was the best just because the sugar doesn't really get bad. Is this like a cinnamon sugar? Yeah. Yeah. It's okay. So warning about Sector 2 for any listeners who want to visit Sector 2. The flavors don't hold up to the elements.

We stress test them. Eat it fresh. Yes. Don't sit on it for two hours. Get that strawberry daiquiri and that onions and just woof it down, you know? That being said, I'm going to still finish all of the thing I'm eating. And then wait a half hour before you go swimming in the water. Before you jump into the water.

And by the way, now there has been a weigh-in from friend of the show, Andrew Grissom. Hey, did you like any of The Flash? Yes. I saw it opening night. There was excited crowd energy. Also, I have not rewatched it, and I have no desire to rewatch. He liked the technology, and then he said, perhaps intuiting what was happening here, please don't make me represent this movie in court as its appointed lawyer.

But I do, technically, Mike, you are correct correct you've won this round of relitigation many more rounds to come oh yeah yeah you know it um and as for you evan susser you survived podcast the ride the city walk orlando saga multiverse of madness i feel like i need to come clean about if i did go if you're willing to or not or not come clean rather just like well you know what i know everyone likes us a lot maybe it's time for another moves like burt oh yeah another big audience i will i'll tell you what happened whether i've been fibbing or telling the truth and just being weird to make it fun a little bit for my appearance and then maybe sector keeper this might be outside of your purview but maybe you could

respond with a cryptic unclear what i said after the you know moves like will you get will you give cut us this deal moves like bird oh god more explanation oh you'll be laughing once we explain it we had to censor a story that he told about something disturbing at Sesame Place, the Sesame Street theme park, and we censored it with a song that Bert sang, which was moves like Bert. So, will you cut us this deal? This is main feed. We are, we'll censor it here.

Will you allow us on the Club club three all the way on the patreon will you help us drive subscribers to our patreon by having the unbelieved unbirded version on club three no no you know what i will i. I will allow that. Okay. Will you tell this is the full Sesame Place story? Can we hear that? I will. I will tell the truth. So, did I, in the interest of being a good podcast guest, wait in line for a half an hour to actually get a Voodoo Donut, even though it is identical to the Voodoo Don donuts that you can get only 15 minutes from my house or did i tell a fib this whole episode and convince myself while online that

oh you know lying creates a fun dynamic on the show and i'll do that or did i actually go but say oh the lying idea is funny why don't i just kind of play with that the whole time and then reveal at the end that i actually did go well and this is only going to be revealed for people on the Patreon, the real answer. Everybody else will have moves like Bert. Well, here is the truth. You've got to move like Bert. You've got to move like Bert.

Wow. What an exit. What a conclusion. But I'll say this. The sector is complete, but only because of one heroic man amongst us. Michael R. Carlson. Not only went to Voodoo Donut, Donuts purchased a donut, but ate its smashed carcass. That's true, yeah.

It looked like spaghetti grease in a paper bag so therefore it is complete wow wow oh and there it is it's forming i see it that's right it's landing it's landing right in front of us there it is it's this it's the sapphire nug it's the sapphire nug it's the sapphire nug oh and jason's trying to eat it. Jason, Jason, don't eat that. Don't eat that. Look, I'm not going to now. I already broke a couple of teeth on it. So put it on the shelf next to the Coke mirror with Hermione on it.

Dollar Curio. So that was from the other episode. Yeah, we're collecting all these things. Well, wow, there it is. Looks beautiful. A shining sapphire nug. yeah yeah we're collecting all these things um well wow there it is looks beautiful a shining sapphire nug and uh evan says let's let's exit through the uh the plug portal uh is there anything you'd like to plug well you know it's just here guys i think the same thing the villain con minion blast universal yes go check it out yeah it's really great. It's a lot of fun.

You did a great job on it. And in the brief moments where we were enjoying rides. And also eat at Minion Cafe if you're there too, which is also a lot of fun, which I don't know. It is fun. Delicious. More than the, but better than all of the great food offerings that we're going to be discussing for many, many days. Okay.

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