Podcast: The Ride - The CityWalk Orlando Saga: Malltiverse of Madness 2 - 2 with Eva Anderson

Episode Date: March 12, 2024

Eva Anderson (WeCrashed) faces off against multiple CityWalk Saga obstacles: Food, lack of phone charge and scariest of all: topic restrictions. Phase 2, Sector 2 contains: Hollywood Drive-in Mini Golf Red Coconut Club FuelRod Kiosks To level up your Saga experience with bonus and ad-free episodes, subscribe to Podcast: The Ride’s Club 3 at  patreon.com/podcasttheride.  FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! When your town has made you frown When your square has made you swear When life gives you one more punch You need a donut soaked in Captain Grunch You need a place A place to stroll

With alcohol A place that features part of the Berlin Wall Where steampunk robots sell chocolate snacks A place where you can tattoo your lower back So let's go take a walk Let's all go to City Walk Orlando.

Tonight. Tonight. Podcast to Ride presents the City Walk Orlando Saga. Multiverse of madness. A daily, extremely necessary series exploring the shops,

restaurants, and cosmic wonder that make up universal city walk orlando welcome to podcast the ride the city walk orlando saga multiverse of madness day five and the madness certainly is setting in i'm scott garritner mike carlson hello i'm here and i'm mad as well going mad not mad i'm not angry i'm going mad uh jason. Hello, I'm here and I'm mad as well. Going mad. Not mad. I'm not angry. I'm going mad. Jason Sheridan, how are you doing? I'm here.

I had to comb through my souvenirs for this one because I had more artifacts. Oh, yes. Oh, great. I deal with today's. Oh, this is a fun thing. You're kind of the artifact keeper. We've just been to Orlando and that's the episode you heard yesterday was our live show with the level keeper.

There's all kinds of keepers in the mix, and it's kind of refreshing to do one in a different way. Yeah. And I think the only way to get some fresh energy at this point is to have somebody come in who it would not be a podcast the ride series without here she is making her 48th appearance

on the show Eva Anderson I'm so happy to be back in another multiverse of madness with you for joining us in the multiverse you've survived every saga at this point with some harrowing moments.

And I mean, hopefully, we don't know what's around any bend, but hopefully you do this one as well. Yeah, Eve has been on 48 times. There could be 48 sectors in this multiverse. We don't know. We don't know. Yeah, that's one thing to catch you up, Eve. It's a daily, infinite saga.

We have not been told how long it's going yet. I was kidnapped to the underworld last time. You freed me you helped us but we needed this we needed your strength to get through every single closed store i still think about club libby lou club oh yeah haunts me to this day that i'll think of the logo and i'll get a headache um that didn't save malls. That girl who lied about her father dying in Afghanistan so she could get a makeover. God, I forgot.

I forgot about that, too. I re-listened recently. Well, we'll see what horrors we encounter here. And speaking of horrors, I want to ask a question. And if this becomes irrelevant, we could cut it. But it seems like something fun to talk about for now. You know, not to be too inside baseball, but we are recording this a good deal of time before the episode will come out. And it's a length of time in which something very important is scheduled to happen and so i pose this question to all of you do you think that by the time the listener is hearing this episode

has david copperfield made the moon disappear the tides have destroyed it's like hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy dolphins are gone. So long and thanks for all the fish. You know? There's two things that throw this up in the air. One is that our friend Jason Wollner pointed out. Him making the moon disappear disappeared from the Save the Children website

the day that a certain list was publicly Yeah, yeah. We've alluded to this in episodes I think before it The day that a certain list was publicly... Yeah, yeah. We've alluded to this in episodes, I think before it happened, that some documents will be undisclosed, whatever you want to call it,

and these being the Jeffrey Epstein documents. And I think mostly it was names that you would expect. There is some Clinton. There are some bad billionaires who you've never heard of. And there was a lot of Copperfield. Not like specifically about him just having weird conversations with women at dinner. Yeah. Let's be clear.

There's no implication of acts or whatever. We don't. We can let our imaginations run wild. Allegedly, allegedly. But I mean, is it great that he was there? No. No. It seems like he supposedly should have been made very strange

small talk yeah ask quest did magic tricks for people hanging out on epstein island yes so now save the children not q save the children but real save the children doesn't maybe want to sponsor this event. And isn't the movie about God's Children Not for Sale? Oh, yeah. Sound of Freedom? Sound of Freedom Save the Children? A third Save the Children? Oh, I thought that was the Q Save. Is that a separate part of Q Save the Children? I mean, it's just something they want to do. I don't know how much their official organizations...

But we all want to save the children. We do. Sound of Freedom, by the way, hit Amazon Prime and I feel like I've heard no one talk about it. I know. I keep wanting to watch it. They all saw it already. I guess. Many times.

They all got the free tickets. Seats filled. Real people in those chairs. So on the one hand, that got taken off the website. On the other hand, one of your Redditors mentioned that they went to the show and that the show's opening is The Moon Will Disappear in February. Whoa, there's like a hype up video of,

and I assume he then addresses all the allegations just because everybody in the audience is thinking about it. I think they just play that hip hop song, Black Magic, where they sing Gave a Coverfield a lot still. That's exciting. So the answer is maybe. But the other thing I want to say is that

even though we're months in the future, the other thing that happened this week is that other guy from the Vegas Groove Blender, James Dolan, got in a ton of trouble. So the Wheel of Guys is really having a tough... It was already a rough group. It's in my garage and it's facing out,

so I pull my car up and see them every day. And now I just have to start putting red X's over them. They're even more canceled than they were before. All I'm saying is like Vince from Yow Wolf, Haunted Museum, man, you're, you're the only ones kind of.

You're our beacons of light. And also, you know, the various Liberace men. Those guys are. Oh yeah. Those guys are great. They seem nice.

Don't, don't fuck around this year. We need to make it. Make it through. Yeah. Yeah. It's a curse time for everyone we put on the wheel of guys. We're sorry we brought you all into it. Not all of you. Some of you deserve to make it. Make it through. Yeah, yeah. It's a curse time for everyone we put on the Wheel of Guys. We're sorry we brought you all into it.

Not all of you. Some of you deserve to be there, and you're getting what you deserve. Is it another curse that we're doing? Huh. Our guy declaration. Anytime we talk about an old actor that's post-80, they die within days. Yeah. And then anytime we talk about a guy, a matter of months they've done something horrible. Or in many cases

something they did 17 years ago becomes disclosed. That's true. So maybe we're not causing it but maybe it's a good curse and we're uncovering the evil deeds. Yeah.

So this is a good version of a curse. So either Copperfield has made the moon disappear and you're listening to this from like a bunker what do we do there's no the oceans they either they've receded entirely or we all live in the ocean now it's but yeah it's there's no water all water yeah and there's no such thing as like. Yeah. There's no option. And there's no such thing as twilight. What happens at...

What does night look like if there's no moon? Is everything darker? It's got to be, right? Certainly a little darker, yeah. I don't know how dark it is. Because there's nights when it's cloudy. Yeah. But you're still getting a little light.

I think if before this was all revealed, he might have made the moon disappear and then given it back. Now it might stay disappeared. He's like, this is what you get. You never should have doubted me. You bring down a major talent, one of the greats. The greats, the best in my field.

And if you want it back, then why don't you go find a magician as good as me to bring it back. Can't do it, can you? I mean, this could be the time we need leadership. This might be the day that Donald Trump finally becomes presidential. He demands the move. If you remember a few years ago, every time an event would happen,

this is when he would become presidential. Yeah, well, certainly that would do it. Biden's weak. He's been weak on moon. He's been weak on the moon. He's been weak on moon, but we love moon. We're getting it back. Day one, it'll be there.

You'll see. You'll look in the sky, and we'll build a wall around the moon so it can never be disappeared again. David Copperfield, he's still on this old group chat that I have going. It's still kind of going. I won't say what it's about. I won't say it's about.

Alan Dershowitz still sends funny dogs sometimes. Okay, well with that bit of business out of the way, which also there's a world where it did happen and we had to do an emergency episode and we're... But I don't know know it's not feeling in the cards for february from what are the predictions definitely say it's not happening so that when it does happen we have to do an emergency episode yeah yeah like we never thought dick tracy too would happen oh yeah yeah

uh-huh really who thought that of all things that we had talked about before unannounced it'd be back could copperfield really get it together because the super bowl is the uh around the eighth ninth somewhere around there and they're building they're already they just destroyed everything from the f1 and now they're building sports center-like broadcast facilities at the Bellagio Fountain. So construction has begun again. Wait, is the Super Bowl in Vegas? It is in Vegas. What are they doing?

That's crazy. This is too much for one city. And it's sphere mania all at the same time. The sphere is not the perfect shape for a football, though. So I wonder how that's going to work. Does it need to be the shape of a football? Well, I'm just saying a basketball basketball when they turn into a basketball it's perfect yeah yeah it just had the oh yeah it's gonna be fine but it won't be as perfect they're

gonna have to build little additions little cone addendums exactly to make it work yeah um okay well we'll we'll maybe we'll know how some of this is played out but one thing that we don't know yet is today's sector assignment for which we briefly welcome back no longer the level keeper but rather his cousin and our our primary keeper the sector keeper boys boys and eva phase two sector two is hollywood drive-in mini golf red coconut club and fuel rod kiosks. Good luck, boys and Eva. All right, there we go. Hollywood Drive-In Mini Golf, Red Coconut Club, Fuel Rod Kiosks.

Amazing. Now, that all said, you know what? He's the guy kind of like keeping us on topic on these, putting up these borders, these walls. You know, I say, well, the cat's away. The mice shall play. I think you should be able to. There's a number of things that I think we need to address, these borders, these walls. I say, well, the cat's away, the mice shall play. I think you should be able to,

there's a number of things that I think we need to address, especially because you did several trips to City Walk. In the endless amount of time that we've been asking friends of the show to visit City Walk, that was enough for you. You ended up being there twice. Twice last, yes yes twice in the window that you were discussing this so i went in the summer with my brother dash we went to all the

parks this was before the groove blender and i was like oh they're doing i knew that this was happening so my brother and i consciously hit a number of locations just in case and taking time away from parks yeah writing down what we did what we ate what happened and then spoke to you and all the places i had asked for had been called already by very cool people like people who are so exciting yeah they were undeniable and i was like oh man yeah i felt terrible because i had said like and you know what whatever you want anything you want and then you said three and i said some some of the trickiness is that knowing that you've done a bunch of things and that you could work for a number of things and there's other people i'm like

i can't believe i can't believe some of these people have no one thing at city walk orlando i feel like they have to do that your versatility was not it was was uh it was great but also a hindrance a hindrance but that's why but the keeper's not here so i see talk about whatever you want well here's what happened so i was like so one of the three things that i asked to do because i did it see walk free was the back to the future escape room yes which was just talked about yesterday yeah yeah this is perfect okay i i don't know how you guys felt about it but it was the worst escape room i've ever done wow i would say okay i think that we were sort of like middling it was we were a little confused by it i think that we were sort of like middling.

It was, we were a little confused by it. I think that we were a little bit blinded by, sometimes it was nice to see some Back to the Future lore and some expanded Back to the Future 2 lore. But I don't know. It was, I think we were a weird mix. We weren't like raving, but we weren't so critical. Oh, man. So I am so, and also, you asked a question before we did it which was is this

your first escape room and the answer is yes i can't imagine it was yours so you've got to be more opinionated this is my number two i did one i think it was in downtown or koreatown for uh pasquette zacharino's uh bachelor party and it was like room for a bachelor party it was like a library okay with artifacts i know this doesn't narrow it down was it good it was pretty good yeah okay there was a lot more like gameplay minded people yeah we did korean barbecue and then we did this escape room. Confused Christopher Lloyd screaming at you that Biff is back. That was like my big takeaway from the whole

thing is like, oh, this is how Back to the Future fucked up is that there's no bad guy who's not Biff. Yeah. Tannin. There's only Buford Tannin who is him. Or himself. Yeah, that's all you got. And he's just some dweeb. He doesn't have like powers or anything he's not even a he didn't even

stay famous as an actor he's just like uh he's very good in the movies but it's like that guy who's like a stand-up who played guitar i think was his other thing like that was like yeah and he'll pop up in things and he's fine but it also doesn't seem like he's dying to be biff again you can't get him not because it like he's ungettable just because he's like to be Biff again. No, he's mad. So you can't get him not because he's ungettable, just because he doesn't need to. Guys, it's been 30 years. And so when you get him... And you can't...

He's not a bad guy, but you'll certainly never get Crispin. Crispin despises the franchise. You ever watch any videos where he just says, like, Bob Gale is a thief and a criminal and a liar? Like, he'll go off. So we're limited in what cast we can participate christopher lloyd

be like biff has returned biffy's coming and so you're just sort of in these rooms and we my brother and i were playing with a family who also had never done escape before of like and they and it was literally like every single thing malfunctioned like we were doing it right and it just didn't work and it was that girl who was a sister going like hey try to put your hand on the thing hey try to put your hand on it and we're just like and i kept thinking his family i was like you guys are doing it right like you are doing it right and it's just not working did we were we doing now that i'm thinking about this were we doing things right and it wasn't working? Because we really felt stupid. I would love to give us that credit, but I'm not so sure. I don't know.

We were bad. We were bad. The Biff Museum and then the Old West Room with, any Old West Room with cranks. I am not sure if we did right or there was people behind us and they're like, all right, get out of here. It's fine. They definitely did that. They definitely said, oh, I figured it out.

You go ahead. Don't worry about it. miffy's behind you right behind that door i swear you would know you wouldn't want to see him his brow will terrify you my friend um tommy haunton who is like a brilliant escape room designer made the escape room stash house. He also laid the game that you guys came to of mine last year. He was the puzzle man in that, but I texted him on the way into the escape room being like, I'm doing the Back to the Future escape room.

And he just went, oh no. And I was like, what? He's like, nothing. Had he done it or he's heard? He just knew about it. Yeah. And he just heard about it from everybody being like oh no this is not possible um so anyway that

was my opinion of that did you have a you have a quick plus up or anything burn it down burn it to the ground also but like getting christopher lloyd on board like that is funny i was just like also like go back and think of like why did you have to get so locked in like it's an early like what's wrong with Star Wars is like Biff being the bad guy in all three movies right that like you can never have new ideas or imagination right you're like when you go all the way back in time the bad guy's Biff is Biff's like relative like there's only one bully of your family throughout time like what kind of karmic like lesson is this for people like you have one villain of your life and you've always been in battle with them and you are good and they are

bad and there's no way for anyone in that family to ever not be like the person destroying you and your father and your parents and best case scenario is you flip things where they're still around just they work for you they clean your car but your villain has to still be in your life every day it does make me feel weird about whatever like personal grievance i want to know about like zemeckis's dad since the whole deal now like thinking about it being like oh like yeah i know i'm not as cool as you bob but you know if uh frank at the factory hadn't kept me from being myself maybe i would be like i don't know like is that what every his entire life was he's like so zemeckis is marty

slinging a camera on his back i'm not gonna be like my dork old man but he's also like but it's true what my dad says it's about actually his big problem is frank and i'm gonna make three movies about it who hurt you zemeckis's dad so that was my big takeaway was the realization that Biff is the only bad guy. Whereas, you know, Indiana Jones gets to fight he gets to have new friends

like Archimedes. And he also gets to fight new sorts of Nazis like Hannibal the Cannibal. With history, we could have, there could be, if like what's scarier some guy who's felled by getting a pun wrong and a little poop in his face or like there's 70 nazi soldiers behind that door or even like if he'd gone back into the old west and it's been like

you have to fight billy the kid or I don't know who the coward Robert Ford I don't know there's some bad guys Genghis Genghis Biff isn't what you're looking for you're looking for Genghis Khan

wait I know I like that that he is related it goes back to China Genghis Khan didn't have the most children genetically genetically

Genghis Biff that's best of both worlds I love it I solved it I'm sorry number four with Genghis Bip that's best of both worlds I love it I solved it I'm sorry now I want them to make number four with Genghis Bip and I would like

an Avengers like a Marvel style reveal where the theater loses their mind because it's like that's the coward Robert Ford it's Casey Affleck right

yeah yeah there's me the coward Robert Ford okay well that's a good rebuttal yes to get Yeah. There's me, the cow rubber food. Okay, well, that's a good rebuttal to get. I think that- The other three things I do not think you have explored yet, so I won't say what they were.

Oh, sure. The other two. But is there, it seems like maybe like Doc Brown that you might have a grave warning about something that is coming up. I have a warning about one restaurant that you have not been to. Okay, so really quick. All right, I'll explain what happened.

So I went to Universal Studios once in the summer. Then I went home. I was like, I covered so much of it. I surely am done. And then in October, I went back cause I had to go to crime con, which is the true crime convention in Orlando. It was Orlando that year. It's in a giant Marriott near Disneyland,

Disney world. And, um, I was going for, cause I had to, I was researching something. So I flew up by myself. I was staying in a,

in another hotel, like the, the bleed off hotel from the convention and the first day i got there i was like there's enough time for me to take an uber to city walk to try to do three more things you name three of the most fun things rejected x try again it's like it's like the night it's the opening night it's the night before the convention actually starts so i have enough time to take a car there get out do some city walk and then get back in time because i had to get back for the opening night party of the true crime convention crime con where because there

was a band playing at the opening party called the soul purpose band um this is a description of the soul purpose band i really specifically was like wanting to see this um because it was uh they're okay so the soul purpose band they're from charleston charleston south carolina performs an eclectic blend of funk and soul r&b country rock pop and more creighton waters the south carolina prosecutor who helped convict alex murdoch is the guitarist of the sole purpose band and this is their like crazy logo oh wow so um yeah it's just like lime green logo and they look very so um so i was like i so i have to getWalk, but I have to get back to see the Soul Purpose band. Wait, Alex Murdaugh also is the,

he's coming back to me as I see him. Yeah, he killed his whole family. He like ran a small town. He was, he killed so many people and he's also like this weird ginger rich guy. It's a great story if you guys haven't looked it up. Eventual Jesse Plemons character. Oh, will be fantastic. He'll either do prosthetics now or he can do it in 30 years. guy it's a great story if you guys haven't looked it up eventual jesse plemon's character oh we'll be fantastic he'll either do prosthetics now or he can do it in 30 years oh okay so so the

prosecutor on that case is on stage doing a cover of like you never have to knock on wood oh it was it was literally it was a lot of i did make it back it was a lot of eagles covers they played on just what i needed by the cars a lot of roots rock all make it back. It was a lot of Eagles covers. They played Just What I Needed by The Cars. A lot of Roots Rock, all white guys. Guys, look them up. They have a Facebook page. They're fun. Wait, did I ask you if they did Mustang Sally?

That's a go-to for those. I feel like, yeah, that is definitely a go-to. It was hardcore, to go back to one of our other ones, Lieutenant Dan Band vibes. Oh, yeah. Like a party band. um it was hardcore um to go back to one of our other ones lieutenant dan band oh yeah like a party band um and everyone was like wearing these neon glasses and it was like a neon it was called neon rave it was in a ballroom of the marriott and we could play like glowing jenga it was great but anyway i had like a small window of time. So I got there, I executed a few things, and I accidentally ate somewhere that made me so sick

that I spent all of CrimeCon basically having to source Pepto-Bismol in the giant Marriott. Cursing out our names, I think, while you were... Cursing a specific restaurant, which I'm not going to name, but when you guys

eventually eat there you could you could say which one we'll reveal when we get there yeah this ties into because we we have been teasing i forget if we said it in the live show yesterday but i bet if we haven't i'll say it now there is there was a restaurant where things really blew up for us um there was vomit involved do ours line up will be the question. Is it the same? Or are there two such restaurants in CityWalk? And if so, oh no. I know it seems impossible.

How could that be possible? Maybe there are two, yeah. Oh my God, we did this to you. No, no, no. I did this to me. No one made me go to CrimeCon. Nobody made me take an Uber to CityWalk. And nobody made me go to crime con nobody made me take an uber to city walk and nobody made me leave my very nice phone charging brick at the airport bar in lax which is why i got into all this

trouble which i'll explain to you guys as part of my sector oh great great uh also feel free to grab whatever we don't have to go in the order that it was, if it makes sense. Or I don't know if that's a closer. You tell me. I think the order that it's in makes sense. Okay, great. We'll stick with that. Any other details from CrimeCon worth sharing?

What an insane thing that you did. CrimeCon is incredible. It's like, you're just in, it was the Marriott One, which is like a giant place right by disney world like i said um that's basically it's a convention hotel um so you're waiting for like two hours for like starbucks um crime con specifically is like yeah the true crime convention so it's all these kind of people like a lot of moms there to see their favorite they're like excited like it's star wars con or something moms there to see their favorite. They're like excited, like it's Star Wars con or something.

Yes, to see their favorite investigators and crime personalities. So like you have meet and greets with like prosecutors and lawyers. Yes, yes, yes. How? And like TV personalities, like, yes, like Chris Hansen was there. Oh, he's got to be the star. He was one of the top guys. Yeah. Nancy Grace was a big,en was there. Oh, he's got to be the star. He was one of the top guys. Nancy Grace was a big, big person there.

TV judges as well? Oh, yes, yes. But also forensic people like Paul Holes, who's called the Golden State Killer, who's very attractive but also very depressed. That's somebody that the ladies love, Paul Holes. But also- These guys are ladies like waiting for them probably like yeah there's ladies with shirts like they're like their favorite person wow okay and this is top level it's it's not just podcasters there's a

podcast alley oh with yardley smith you'd mention this yardley smith is a true crime yes she's on a she married a detective and and who has a twin brother who's also a detective and they do a podcast called small-town dicks with Paul holes and they were

all there together yeah wow wow okay yeah there's also a crime awards one night and Yardley Smith presented an award crime awards that's a crime okay crime I I heard I and Yardley Smith presented an award. Oh my God, there's crime awards? There's crime awards. That's a crime.

Wait. Okay. It's a crime. I heard, I might be conflating things, but I know like the most popular podcast on Patreon is a true crime thing. But then there was also like kind of a bit of a scandal with a true crime, or infighting. Is that the same?

It's not my favorite murder. It's not my favorite murder. It's not my favorite murder. It's like people throwing confetti. Yeah, the happiest people going, hooray, crimes, murders. But I think there's a problem with the marriage or something. There's something. There's like an hour long YouTube.

I don't know anything about this. There's like, I got to find it. I bookmarked an hour long YouTube video, but my watch later on YouTube is just insane it's like 3 000 videos at this point so i gotta try and find the true climb find the true crime uh gossip okay so if you go to graftrion the number one one is this some crime thing and then you have to just like look into them yeah what's the problem with them okay that's true crime obsessed my favorite true crime i have spotted that because I creep on

Grafton sometimes. My favorite in Podcast Alley was one called Equine Crime, which was just horse crime, the podcast. Horse crime?

Wow, really? Yeah. So you meet them or are they live podcasting there? No, they had little booths where they tell you about their podcast.

It was sort of like, here's my little artist alley at Comic Con. I have seen seen podcast alley at a wrestling convention a couple years ago too so i think this might be common yeah uh is there a hall h at like did they reveal like you know we found is the big reveal they killed like found a killer or something in hall eight like is there any sort of announcements that are made there was a really crazy one that i went to because i got a gold pass where like after hours we went to uh it wasn't like that it was similar we went to this room and there's this woman named mac who's like this very popular i think she might be a youtuber

or podcast but she's like a southern lady who's got who's like no no no and she um was like because you paid because you're the gold members you get to investigate you get to help us investigate a cold case that no one knows about and so they basically this woman had been murdered in the 90s and they brought her mom on stage and then we all the audience just got to ask her mom questions is this sharon love mother of yardley love confusingly there's a second yardley who factors into this i don't know if it was that this woman there's so many becky patty grandmother of liberty german this so it's families yeah this is a weird list also like a crazy thing well anyway the the thing weird thing

about this event was there was an open bar so during the crime solving yeah you have to solve a case and there's an open bar yeah so at like a normal convention you would like ask william shatner a dumb question about star trek but here you like cross-examine a witness sort of or also like something insane that happened was that like the i was in a different room when this happened but like these horrible idaho murders happened where they caught this dude who murdered these three college students it was really gruesome and they the they tracked him through forensics and they caught him but they were doing like a panel on that and just like a woman got on the mic was like yeah that one of those people is my son and like she's just had come to the convention to be like uh what's going

on with this convention was like would you like to ask me any questions about my own child or whatever so that was like wild um so yeah crime con's wild guys this is but i had to get back there to see the band play you got murders and blues yeah um oh my god oh geez okay so the first thing just really important that i showed up so as you guys know approaching any of these parks from like a ride share is very difficult sure yeah it's a lot of walking and i had left my phone charger uh at lax so when i showed up i was like well my phone's dying so and there's no way for me to leave here this entire complex without my phone because i ubered here and there's not a second option because i also like i'm not i'm across town too it's like so is this you at the hotel are you at

city walk when i showed up at city walk i was like oh god but i had a plan because i'd seen these phone charging kiosks all over the place the first time i'd been i'm like i'm just gonna get one of these things yeah um so or i'll buy some i was like they'll sell these they'll sell chargers somewhere like this is a this is everywhere sells these things now right like bricks like i can figure this out so that was that was the mindset i showed up in i was like i gotta i gotta complete some things but you had a ticking clock i gotta see creighton waters and i gotta not make myself so violently ill that that i that nancy grace is a challenge oh god and i failed at most of them this after the the susser but we didn't we didn't know this happened a few days ago that we didn't we just asked devin susser like can you pop over to something so we can do a podcast about it we

didn't know that he had he was there for like real work and had done a 12-hour day and was exhausted and then he gets to the thing that he picked and the line work. He had done a 12-hour day and was exhausted, and then he gets to the thing that he picked, and the line is massive. There's still cliffhangers on that. Oh, great. That's so funny. So far, every guest has been put out and put in terrible situations.

Financially in the hole. Definitely in the red. Did the Back to factory future escape room for nothing for no god for nothing so i'm gonna hit you back for these no no no i didn't know you had an escape room story uh i had an escape room epilogue too oh really i bought the magnets like the souvenir i we chain and i were like, oh, let's get some magnets. We have a new fridge. There's not a lot of magnets on it yet.

So I got the magnets, and then I forgot about them for a while because my souvenirs I get tend to sit in the bag for a while. And I was like, when I was cleaning stuff up, I was like, oh, I should put the magnets on the fridge. And one of the magnets, I couldn't tell this was on purpose because it was not on the description jane's like i don't i don't i'm not getting that to me it smelled like um burning it smelled like the fire effects when the theme parks pump in the smell of like oh that room's on fire no and that that magnet smelled like that and jane's like no i don't smell that i'm like am

i crazy oh no wait one of the two magnets one of the two magnets smelled like burning from the escape room what does it look like it's got like the delorean on it and the t-rex on it and then the escape room logo so it has like a burnt rubber smell kind of and this is months after you bought it and it's sealed it's in the bag i cut the bag open sniff kind of magnets but then there's no mention of tires or dinosaur breath either one take your pick can we smell no i didn't i didn't i brought everything else i didn't know you had escape room stuff but has it been aired out by now now wouldn't i wouldn't I? Okay, okay. I'll take a whiff in the next sector.

All right, well, some audience is going to have to let us know. All right, go there. You don't have to buy the magnet, but go smell a magnet. Does it smell like burning? But it's sealed in the bag, so you're not going to be able to. Maybe you'll be able to smell it. But wouldn't it smell like burning fresh from the store? Potentially.

Or does something about the bag actually make the smell? It does something about the bag It could be the ink What's your baseline Relationship To smelling in general Versus Jane Like are you a better smeller in that apartment I can't say versus I think I have a pretty good sense of smell

Are you hypersensitive to like perfume My eyes Water and I get headaches easily And he floats after the lady down the street I think I have a pretty good sense of smell. Are you hypersensitive to perfume? My eyes water and I get headaches easily. And he floats after the lady down the street. Now, Michael, I'm a taken man. I wouldn't do something like that. Well, it's involuntary. You can't help it. No, he got surgery.

He got that part of him taken out. He cannot float anymore. Yikes. Okay, so got surgery. He got that part of him taken out. He cannot float anymore. Yikes. Okay, so bad smells. Let's lighten the mood a little bit here, unless there's horrible stories to come at Hollywood Drive-In Mini Golf. This is where we landed.

You did this on the first round, or was this in CrimeCon? No, CrimeCon. It was the first thing I did when I landed, I was like, I'm going right now. I'm going to do one of the two. It was raining. I'm going to do one of these two. You did it in the rain?

Yeah. Oh, no. Really? It started raining. But I was like, let's go. Nobody's touched golf. Let's go. Yeah, yeah.

Did you do Haunted or Space Aliens? I did haunted oh okay you guys did space aliens well they did haunted and Jane and I did space aliens yes this is it

well okay so this is a mini golf course that was put in kind of like mid 2000s I feel like this is a later edition no fallen brothers

it didn't replace anything it just replaced empty space because it's under the it goes under the big parking lot bridge with the moving walkways um and i remember seeing pictures of it a long time ago and thinking this looks kind of charming and kooky and it is too many golf courses the haunting of ghostly

greens and invaders from planet putt and the notion of the whole thing with that drive-in name is that um it's like these are, they have this kind of a now playing. There might be signage to that effect. So it's like you're entering the world of kind of schlocky 50s B movies. So they represent scary monster movies and alien movies. That's the premise we're dealing with here. Yeah, very fun.

Very fun premise, I would say. Yeah, good idea for for a mini golf course themed mini golf is kind of a uh it's kind of a crap shoot it's it's it can be a little hard to pull off um but these are good ideas that i don't know have been taken before the intro little panel said the haunting of ghostly greens now playing on the silver screen the first of 18 spooky scenes to make you laugh, cry, scream. That's really nice. You get a lot of custom stuff in this place.

You get little poems that give you a tip on how to play the thing or give you a warning about a potential obstacle. A lot of funny gravestones, in my case. Yeah. The gravestone game, really good, I thought. Oh, very funny. Swim bruce pet shark uh his bite was much much worse than his bark oh geez yeah that's kind of sad does somebody wait does that imply that like a shark ate a dog oh no bruce was bruce bruce was the pet oh okay oh i see yeah topiaries, really cool topiaries I'm looking at. Yeah. Topiary holding a chainsaw. Some Beetlejuice style kind of like.

It had a lot of, I will say, Tim Burton vibes, hardcore Nightmare Before Christmas vibes. Yeah. Yeah. That shark gravestone, Bruce is this shark from Jaws. Yeah. He named it after his lawyer, of course, we all know. It's double clever.

When you're a tour guide at Universal Studios, the honor you have of saying that line each and every day it's like introducing the musical guest on saturday night live oh yeah here's here's ladies and gentlemen evanescence that's how it feels as good as if you said that two more gravestones are like frankenstein various parts born 1833 18 1838, 1840, 1847, etc. And one that says werewolf and then it goes werewolf and then just points down into the ground. Oh, cute.

On the first hole there's the thing where there's lumps which are a good thing to have to put over in mini golf. And then so like that's the bulk of the corpse and then you've got shoes poking out, too. And that shows you if it's a wolfman or a mummy. I just want to say, I thought this mini golf course was, like, wonderful.

It was, like, super well done. I played through it alone. I didn't have anyone in front of or behind me. So I was just like, I'm bad at mini golf, but it didn't matter. I wasn't actually keeping score. I was just like, woo'm bad at mini golf, but it didn't matter. I wasn't actually keeping score. I was just like, woo. And I loved every hole. There was one where little aqua monsters spit water at you over a bridge.

That was really cute. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah, with this guy? Oh, yes. Did that get one of us? Did one of us get genuinely shocked by that? I loved it. I just thought the whole thing was so charming and fun and well done.

I think that how this came together, I think the golf itself was done by a place that does a lot of themed mini golf called Adventure Golf Design and Development. They do mini golf in crazy places like a hotel roof

or a cruise ship. They'll jam it into whatever space. Very in-depth website uh they did the one in the mall of america which i think i played i think was fun uh they do great wolf lodge ones and ones by niagara falls but then i think that's comboed with universal um you know art design people so you're getting like enough it's not animatronics but it's really good physical pieces like everybody who did this i imagine i'm not the biggest budget in the world i but people so you're getting like enough it's not animatronics but it's really good physical pieces like everybody who did this i imagine i'm not the biggest budget in the world but this must have been like fun to do they all knocked out of the park great figures just uh really good how was the sci-fi

uh it was awesome this was one of the best mini golf courses i've ever played. Amazing. And I played a lot of miniature golf at the Jersey Shore. Oh, yeah. And Sheridan's are like big miniature golf heads. And this one was so surprising. Yeah, no one in front of us, no one behind. There was a lot of, I answered all the questions. Did you guys do the questions? No, I got lost on that.

Yeah, they give you like scavenger hunts essentially to do. We did the scavenger hunt where it is like, what is the name of the newspaper reporting the UFO sightings? The Roswell Register. Cool. The putt aliens are claiming planet Earth for what planet? Putt. It's in the title.

Each cup and saucer spaceship is creating how many orange blast rings? Three. So we answered all these, and then at the end they gave us little scratch-off cards. Oh, we got those, yeah. Oh, yeah, right. And so the one was 15% off mini golf,

and the other was 10% off any retail item. Unfortunately, I'd already spent the four dollars on this ball marker slash poker chip that's cool you bought that at the outset before we started i bought it because i got so excited to see like original merchandise i could not find the character i forgot they were from planet putt but I don't know his name. Invader. Yeah. Guys, this is like a very well executed thing, just overall.

I was so impressed. It seems like it's not popular at all. Yeah. It's in a weird spot though. They were doing maintenance. It is confusing where it is, yeah. Sure. You can miss it. We played around.

We played through a guy like peening and power washing different elements. So they were doing upkeep while we were there. Did they also tell you, they told me, if you want to come back and play the other one, it's only $2. It's free. Yeah, it's like this.

There was a little, yeah, some deal. This would have been good if you had little kids. Oh, man. I think this, yeah, if you're on, like on like using that resort as we're increasingly excited about doing as a resort and taking your time and like uh finding odds and ends for sure i think that's a that's a great hour there was that ballpark one thing i don't know if we've talked about on the show that scott and i were noticing is and we've talked about this before i think is the um uh using certain pop songs in a Halloween setting,

songs that have been now claimed as Halloween songs. Yeah, because we did this not long after Halloween, and I'd noticed it at Halloween as well. And it's kind of a perennial. You know you're hearing Monster Mash or Thriller or whatever. Enter Sandman, like those ones. Yes, stuff that's kind of right on the... It was not ever intended to be a Halloween song,

but it feels like there's one element in it that is now that you could claim has something to do with a monster or is scary. We're pulling it in. It's like She Blinded Me Was Science or something is now a Halloween song. I feel like I definitely heard that. And they're playing stuff like that.

And it's just like, well, this isn't quite. Hungry Like the Wolf was one. Yes, they played Hungry Like the Wolf. That's a stretch because that's not a werewolf.

No, right. But he is hungry. Right, but a wolf can. And that's horrifying if a hungry wolf is after you. Yes. If you take the song literally.

And wolf is not. Oh, sure. They didn't write it for the Jack Nicholson movie Wolf. That is not what that song is for. They should have used it oh sure and what they didn't write it for the jack nicholson movie wolf that is not what that song should have used in the trailer if they didn't but um they do play not just halloween music the j halloween adjacent song pop songs scott do you remember because i feel like you were with me a couple times that was happened it was an halloween song but it was certainly haunting us there was a song i kept

hearing throughout city walk and i started hearing it again and i turned around and there was a live singer and i'm trying to was it a halloween no it was just like this you're talking about halloween song that made me think there was like a song haunting me the entire time we were at city walk i just heard it again and again was you know what i'm talking about it's like an eagle song or like a like a classic rock song um i i have uh okay i have a i have a guess and actually like wait i'm gonna do this okay i was just on a disneyland shuttle where they usually play uh disney music but in this case they were playing like for everyone kind of radio rock and my guess as to what you're talking about

uh i was meaning to bring this up on the show somehow just see if you guys can like because i basically we played a game these there were two songs and aaron and i were like what's the next one and i I nailed it. I got it. I'm so proud. And so see if, and listeners can play along with this at home too.

You know, this breed of like karaoke, omnipresent, because I think where you heard it was maybe dueling piano, outside dueling piano. I think so.

So, I'll, all right, here's the two. See if you can complete the third. Sweet Caroline, Don't Stop Believing. What's the third? Oh, that's the two. See if you can complete the third. Sweet Caroline, Don't Stop Believing. What's the third?

Oh, that's a good question. Like for everyone music. It's like what at a wedding? It's the wedding. It's like a wedding. Crowd pleaser. Anybody got one? Sweet Caroline, Don't Stop Believing.

And then it's, I'm going to be upset with myself too. I'm going to be so mad. I was really proud that I aced it. And I think it's the song Jason's talking about too. It's a famous song. Yeah. It's a classic rock song. Obvious.

Obvious. I'll keep hinting shortly. You know, like every man, working man. Oh, it's. Is it September? Oh, is it living on a prayer got it right nailed it i think i think it was living on a prayer yeah okay this is that was a perfect organic way to bring up thank you yeah that game it was just driving me no i'm like this wasn't halloween so but it was

haunting me and that prayer is a little spooky. It was not in the Halloween mini-golf course, but yeah, that could be a Halloween living on a prayer. Living on a prayer means you could die at any moment. Yeah, that's true. Oh, jeez. You're dependent on one prayer. The docks are scary. It's hard work.

Oh, the docks themselves. Oh, yeah. You said a horror movie. Whatever the character's name is worked on the docks. Yeah, we don't know what time. Union's been on strike. It's scary not knowing when you're going to go back to work. So you're living on a prayer.

One of the scariest things ever. The union busters might come get you. That's right. Like in that Brando movie. Yeah. On the waterfront. Might throw your brother off of a roof. Yeah. And then you have to talk to throw your brother off of a roof. Yeah.

And then you have to talk to- Tommy. Right? Tommy used to work on the docks? I said Johnny. I'm wrong. There's only that one priest called Romaldin who's kind of on your side.

Anyway. So you can play the haunted mini golf, but you can also be haunted by songs at Universal. They can follow you around. They can stalk you. There was a trip I went on where multiple times I heard Life is a Highway and

The Mamas and the Papas. Oh, what is it? All the Leaves are Brown. Yeah, it's California Dreaming. Which Life is a Highway though? Was it Rascal Flats? It was Rascal Flats. Cars hadn't come out yet, I think. No, Rascal Flats is ours. Oh no, sorry. It was the other Tom Cochran't come out yet I think But I mean No I mean No Rascal Flatts is Mars

No no sorry It was the other Tom Cochran Tom Cochran yeah Yeah You say haunted by these things Mike would say Mike would put one finger in the air

Point and smile I don't think I point and smile At living on a prayer Don't stop believing Or Sweet Caroline No I know it's not those But you do do it for songs That are not surprising

To hear in public in the least. That's why I started asking you for the song. When he does California Dream and a tear rolls down his face because it's kind of a melancholy song. Also, Tom Cochran, Life is a Highway is a good karaoke song. It is a good karaoke song. Yeah, that one. Anyway, we did keep score. Par was 42.

Jane got 48. I got 46. So I won by two. Mike 50, Scott 40. Yeah, I did bad. I stopped keeping score because I was bad, but I had a good time. Yay, yay. Well, how about that?

We led you to a pretty fun, agreeable place. Nice music. So the 18th holes are really good that's not you know the 18th hole the pressure's on right building you gotta yeah you walk into in the case of uh the haunted one it's like a mausoleum and then there's kind of like a frankenstein lair and you go up a rube goldberg machine um what's it in sci-fi it was a flying saucer you went into and the floor is spinning and jane's like you probably shouldn't step on that they're like oh i'm stepping on i gotta step on that and there was like one there was uh a hole where like the ball was taken up in a big spiral

thing and you watch it through like a glass tube there was also when you walked into a flying saucer and to get out, you hit a button and it swung open the door. Like, it was awesome. That sounds really good. It's physical design. Like, you know, this stuff's not easy to pull off. You take it for granted. Like, it doesn't feel chintzy.

It doesn't feel cheesy. And my only complaint is that right before the 18th hole, we got interrupted in putting by somebody on the moving walkway who yelled Mike Carlson. Then I waved and got jack shit. I think what happened was, and I wasn't going to bring up that aspect of the story, but I do recall that somebody yelled Mike Carlson. Maybe he said, like, you're a very good boy. Really? I don't remember that part.

Correct me if you were the yeller to what you said. Maybe this is a different time. And then I think I pointed at you, and I said, that's Scott's ear. And he's like, ah. Like it was a noise or something. Like it was not. Oh. Well, that could go either way.

Yeah. Maybe he said that. Not a bad noise. He might like me. I'm just saying it was not. Yeah, no, it's possible. I just think I was very visible to them. But then I was, they could have been moving fast.

And I think you were, honestly, I do think your back was to the walkway. All right, there's hope for me. You know what I saw that stuck in my mind of like, wow, that was a really nice design touch. They had like at an arboretum, all the plants were labeled. Yeah.

Wait, yes. We had that too, right? Yeah, all the plants were labeled. Yeah. Wait, yes. We had that too, right? Yeah. Haunted One has a bunch of like where it's Venus Flytrap, but then like ones that are making up. Yeah, you go into like a haunted greenhouse. There's a plant called the Boston Strangler and then in parentheses, Chokeus Maximus. It's kind of dark for-

It ties right into CrimeCon. This just was like thoughtful and tried hard. You should have It ties right into CrimeCon. This just was thoughtful and tried hard. You should have brought that joke to CrimeCon. Oh, yes. And they would have been delighted. Should have waited in a long line to present that to Chris Hansen at his signing. What do you think of this joke?

I brought a funny plant for you, Chris. And then sprint to the bathroom. Every hour on the hour. Oh, God. Here's a cute little chef alien, and he's got an apron that says, I heart humans, and he's standing on it to serve man,

like the Twilight Zone. He's standing on a cup book. Wow, wow. They even label the fans. They call the fans something. It says mystical mist makers, and I have a video of you getting very unpleasantly splatted in the fans. They call the fans something. It says mystical mist makers. And I have a video of you getting very unpleasantly splatted in the face. I don't remember that.

You look very grumpy. Do I ever think of you getting sprayed? I have a video of you here with the creature. Oh, right. Yes. Yeah. That did get me. All right.

I think it got you. Well, all this to be posted. Do you guys feel a little unsettled in a way that we're here in a saga talking about how much we liked something that we did? It doesn't feel normal, does it? The only reason that it doesn't feel so odd is because I'm not sure how many times this is going to happen again. Yeah.

Yeah. I know. I'm looking down the rest of that list. We'll see. We'll see. This was a great morning morning this is like the first like full day like city like just like it was a good fee i had a good feeling yes all ahead of us it's something you can do really early yeah you don't have to wait for it to open a lot yeah yeah

no i i honestly would recommend like if you got the time to kill or you're taking a little break between parks days like yeah do that do that with a coffee refreshing nice yeah and this is certainly like all the people on that walkway are bypassing this and adding to the theme park so like so if you don't want to like get in you know is this wait okay general theme park hack because this occurred to me also in my recent trip where i was i was in a shuttle and stuff there's rope dropping and maybe you want to rope drop because you want to like get to stuff as soon but i think there's also a way to play it where like you get there purposefully an hour or two later and then you're not in that mega stressful like i think there's i think there's probably a perfect window to hit a theme park when everybody's sprinted in with a rope drop and then

you are like half an hour later yeah yeah and then you're not because it's it's deadly i don't know if anybody's ever waited on harbor boulevard for i mean any all disney security can be like ungodly and then it can like break your spirits and then you don't maybe you don't care that you got on whatever on rise of the resistance first or whatever yeah the only reason because everybody who's rope dropping they're headed for the long line rides first for the e-tickets so that's the only thing you may be sacrificed by not doing it is that yeah you are now gonna have to wait the normal amount of time for some things sure but as far as that crush yes it's more pleasant yeah but if you're taking easy scott the other hack on that is like if you make a breakfast

reservation somewhere especially inside a park. And there isn't that many places. You gotta show them that on the phone to like. Yeah, sometimes. But also like, yeah, it's just nice. You just wander in, have your coffee at breakfast. I was picturing like going to a hotel where you have, when that gets you past some stuff.

Oh, that does get you past. You mean walking with a rope drop and then you just go to breakfast, basically? Yeah, or even after rope drop. And it's like, if you want a leisurely day in addition to in that same vibe of what we were doing with mini golf, it's like, oh, factor in a breakfast

because that's also a way to save some money. If you eat a big breakfast, it's always the least expensive meal at theme parks. Yeah, true. One thing we did not do, I had been proposing that Hard Rock Cafe is a breakfast destination. And ultimately, nobody wanted to

pull that trigger on themselves. Really? Not Hard Rock Hotel. I've done the Hard Rock Hotel buffet. I'm thinking about just eating breakfast at Hard Rock Cafe and my stomach is turning. Yeah, right. It's like eating breakfast at Margar and my stomach is like turning yeah right i don't look we it's a margaritaville or like um the airport any airport restaurant breakfast it's

gonna feel like i know what four things are on the menu and i don't like it yeah yeah um at the same time i had a pretty bad breakfast at the airport rock and bruise on the way to orlando but i was thinking i like wow I got here really early but now I'm getting to just sit and enjoy a cup of coffee and it's not great and it's too expensive but like I'm hearing some great music like probably living on a prayer having a second at the airport

was nice and then Mike on the other hand so late that the door slammed on his yeah well because we were on the same flight and I missed it so I got there and they close the door and I go, I can't get on that. He's like, nope. Oh no.

Next time, let the lure of rock and brews get you there and pumping with rock vibes. I know. I didn't even think that there was a rock and brews there which is very exciting.

hanging out at the airport a little bit. Oh yeah. Yeah. A little time to... I had it on the other way too. I just got to have like a salad and a glass of wine at Ruby Tuesday in Orlando.

Oh, yeah. Orlando Airport has some nice little spots. There was, like, a wine bar where I had, like, a little hang on my way back. Not bad. Yeah, yeah. That's a good place to not... If you can build in... It sacrifices park time, but if you can, like, be relaxed at the Orlando Airport, it's a

nice feeling. Well, it didn't sacrifice any CrimeCon time, because Crime was over for me oh sure okay okay i just could go home what was the finale a man is dead a man is dead and it's all up to you to solve this locked room he was in a locked room until the last day was like they knew a lot of people would be there. So that's when they did a lot of like, this guy's innocent guys. And like defense attorneys. They were all the last day. Wow.

That they kind of crammed them into Sunday because they were like, Sunday was only a half day. And that's when everybody was like, nobody's going to come see the, we've got to get this innocent man out of prison. A genius journalist because everyone he's just reasonable and has evidence he doesn't play harmonica at all okay help me workshop this could you do a panel there like about dick tracy and say like a salute to my favorite fictional crime would that be possible i would have to bury that it was dick the fictional or those dictates so it has to be because it's true like i was like some of the worst like uh crimes of the 1930s most grisly murderers and then i just present like that guy with the head with the with the jar ears big

head and vitamin flint heart and like okay and i just present it like it's a real real now that's a better panel actually yeah and you're like because you did few of you know that there were crimes committed on the moon and i just present i've read this book and i just think it's real and i'm like yeah this is serious things you know crime crime is much worse than is now. And you guys need to be grateful that we're not dealing with these types of psychopaths. That we have better tools than a two-way wrist radio. And typically most human heads are more normal than in that era where this city alone had 25 bizarre heads. At the time, we knew which guys were bad by the way they looked, and we don't have that

anymore. Their forehead protruded a little too far. Like in silhouette, you can tell if they were bad. I feel like she's doing phrenology, but then I just show pictures of like the crazy bad guys. Yeah, I mean if a guy has like a question mark for a head, that's what I mean. Thank God the innovations in magnetic technology have come so far. All right.

Well, maybe that's more for fake crime. Fake crime. Yeah, fake crime crime. Yeah. Tracy Conn. All right. Let's keep moving. Let's talk a little bit about, I was very relieved that you hit a place that was closed

when we were there. So we were maybe going to defy the sector keeper by not having covered this but thank god eva that you have some uh some thoughts on red coconut club yeah so after i went to this cursed meal um i um went into i was like what's that so i walked over to red coconut club um which i was there during halloween so it was dead coconut club yeah i saw pictures yeah it changes seasonally it doesn't right now yeah right now they're getting ready for mardi gras and it's cursed coconut club nice um that's a separate theme yeah and so really quick i just wanted so i looked up a little bit i guess red coconut club was like a straight up club it was open it closed during covid and then never reopened

fully and from what i could tell from reading about it people just were like it's a club yeah sure yeah yeah no no real theme i think actually was the reason it was put in they were hoping for something that was like wide enough and not like because a lot of that you think about like bob marley tribute to freedom or like there was like a jazz but But they were trying to think of somewhere that's like general club, whatever. Yeah, because everything else is very specific. It's like Patty O'Brien's or whatever. So I also, I think before Red Coconut Club was sharing a space with a place called The Groove. Okay, yeah.

Or I think The Groove was maybe what became the escape room. Oh, really? I'm not totally sure. Was the Groove the all-ages, like the teen club? I don't know. Well, I will say I found some really bad reviews of the Groove. Okay, yes. Okay, yeah, please.

Because I don't know if you guys are going to touch on the Groove. We haven't yet. Take the Groove. That's one you can claim. Groove. It's in your sector now. Okay, the Groove. Okay, this is from over two years ago.

I did a search for dance clubs in Orlando for seniors, and this came up. None of the people I saw in the photos looked over 45. For all I know, it's great for young people. That guy didn't go at all. Off of photos? What? Yeah. Maybe.

You might just give it one star. You might have been. I don't know if that man is a widower or anything. He might have met the love of his life. He might have got his golden years before he met at the groove. I like this one too. This place, if you're a tourist,

hello Universal Studios from another country. That's one sentence. It's mandatory to have a driver license to get in unless you carry your passport that could get lost on the roller coasters this is like this comment was like it wasn't written by someone it was just like taken from someone's brain directly without being formatted into a sentence like the way you said that too like oh sure that's fine i could bring my passport

to the theme parks if i wanted to get lost on the roller coasters the raw pulsing id of america is present on review any review i was reading reviews because i got an electric kettle and i was like oh this is how do i i uh descale they call it, like cleaning it and stuff. How do you? Well, I tried running it with baking soda and water, and then I did it with vinegar and water. That seemed like it got more of the buildup off. I'll do vinegar.

Yeah. And you said electric kettle, like a tea kettle? Yeah, tea kettle. Is it a glass one? It's stainless steel. Oh, okay. So it could heat up without putting it on a stove? Yeah, so basically you don't have to use a range.

Yeah, they're really good. They heat up instantly. And it's just for tea or can you do other things with it? No, well, it boils hot water and then you can pour over coffee or cocoa or tea. Or ramen. French press. A little cup of lentils. It's really good for instant ramen

Does it make a fun noise when it's hot? But not like that whistle the kettle makes? It doesn't really whistle It kind of, yeah, rumbles Did you have an old whistling kettle? I think we have a kettle somewhere That whistles? That makes the noise? I don't have a kettle

I don't have a kettle either I'm kind of interested in it though So really quick Those places close that makes the noise? Yeah. I don't have a kettle. I don't have a kettle either. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm kind of interested in it, though. So, really quick, those places closed, and I might be wrong about where Groove was, but when I walked into Dead Coconut Club, I found it to be amazing. Really?

So, the theme of it was, let me find it, very similar in a way to like what we experienced with uh with the mini golf it was like extremely thoughtfully designed um it was so the theme was that for this one was that the universal classic movie monsters were had put out a movie a b movie called revenge of the red planet and this was the premiere of the movie was the theme of the club so not only were all the universal monsters like statues around the club in like tuxedos or like really like sitting in little director's chairs or in some cases there

was like a 3d movie theater you could go in and watch a little piece of the movie and there were two of them were like sitting in seats eating popcorn with little 3D glasses on. But also there was just like really cool. I mean, I think it was like the Fry's Electronics vibe we crave. Like really like there was like big cool statues everywhere. There was like just, and it's like thatmovie sci-fi thing that i don't know i think it doesn't get old i think if people really like care about making a sci-fi b-movie like mystery science theater club and they really put like throw their back into it then it that's

so much better than like a bunch of things i can think of also it's like i i love that universal still does their classic monster stuff it's like i i love that universal still does their classic monster stuff it's like one of my favorite things about them like the fact that they're going to make a park about it and that they're still like fans even if they don't care about those movies the aesthetic of it is still like especially like i don't know people want it like there's absolutely a market for products of it and play in places of it yeah it just makes so much sense and every year when i go to the county fair county fair, there's a horror area where there's basically teenagers that are making monster movie stuff from that era.

Like still. It's an aesthetic. Oh, yeah. Here's a director's chair that was just sitting out that just said The Wolfman on it. How? It was fun. It had his stuff in it. Here's the names of the drinks

um at a millicent snack bar i forgot when millicent was named after like everything was also like similar like named after like like people who made the old movies and stuff like that who's millicent i know that name yeah i'm sorry millicent roberts is somebody? The creator of Barbie? No. Or no, is that that's Barbie's full name? Millicent is in some part of Barbie. It's either the creator or Barbie. Isn't that Rhea Perlman, perhaps? I don't know.

Have you seen the movie? I've seen half of the movie. Okay, so you haven't seen the part where Rhea Perlman shows up? It's another half. Yeah, I've only watched half. If it's something that young girls like, Mike's done half of it. I only have a bit. A major character played by Rhea Perlman, who is the creator of Barbie. I'm excited about that. I like Rhea Perlman. Yeah, she've only watched half. If it's something that young girls like, Mike's done half of it. A major character played by Rio Perlman, who's a great apartment.

I'm excited about that. I like Rio Perlman. Yeah, she's great. Red Planet Punch, Plasma Punch, The Ooze, Asteroid Attack. Those are some drinks you can get. Spirit-free slime. Oh, that sounds good. Yeah.

Yeah, and then, wait, I do have a description. Guys, you guys talk for a second. Oh, sure. Did you see any singer? I immediately ask you a question it was a weird it was a weird time of day because it was like five o'clock so that but they they seem like they have a live band almost every night yeah i just didn't see that i think a lot of the yeah orlando just filled with performers so i think a lot of the singers jane knew were doing

gigs there but then they were girl groups doing like you know old songs you know that kind of thing it is barbie's real name barbie millicent robert okay the um i think i don't think this is a live act although from the photos i actually couldn't tell i was like is it a dummy or is that a show that they do but i think it's dummies but there's they it's like a uh maybe this isn't a past year or i'm not sure but it's uh uh the uh bride of frankenstein's like the lounge singer and so the bride of frankenstein's like lounging on top of the piano and then the piano player is the invisible man so it's just a body and no head yeah do you see that or is that a past year thing i don't know if it if it was there i didn't see it

but yeah there are two stories of like different kind of installations and stuff and it did remind me also of like um uh jekyll and hyde too like it was great the restaurant yeah but but also more like well better designed and better thought out and like an actual like cool it would be cool actually if you had a friend to like hang out there there were rumors online uh that i saw that of jekyll and hyde the now closed new york haunted rest what is the what even the keyword of what that is yeah yeah there were rumors of it coming to city walk orlando could have been there which maybe could what if that had like propped a no no but something closed and there maybe it was just message boards maybe it was just speculation but what if that had saved the brand that could have propped the whole thing up wasn't that the entire thing run into the ground because the owner like took out a big loan and then bought

like a upstate how do we look into this but they also he also opened up a time square locate like there was a different like oh yeah I I went to the Times Square one. The multi-story Times Square one was crazy. Yeah. So maybe that's right, but also maybe don't open the Times Square restaurant. Yeah. Maybe bad economics on that. It was so rickety when we were there, when we were in New York.

Oh, yeah. That was coming apart. Charming. I mean, I loved it. I loved every second of it. It was really good. Yes. Dead Coconut Club, if it had one or two more animatronic kind I mean, I loved it. I loved every second of it. It was really good. Yes. Dead Coconut Club, if it had like one or two more like animatronic kind of things, I would

be like, if this was in Pleasure Island, it would totally, everyone would love this. Like everyone would be totally into this. Oh, shoot. That reminds me. Wait, I have a screenshot of something. I don't think I put it in my notes. There was some crossover. Oh, here it is.

I think this might be for the regular regular red coconut club oh yeah um on some website not facebook or anything just like message board style so three comments below it and they're reviewing just they had a good all-purpose red coconut club good all-purpose uh orlando nightclub and then anonymous person says kind of like pleasure island and then a next anonymous person says no not at all except different nightclubs but nothing like P.I. which really reminded me of what

Mike always said Mike's haunting thing of looking at the message boards and seeing people say the Facebook group would have been a good night I would have been a good night at Pleasure Island at mannequins yeah this defensive no nothing like P.I. It would have been a good night at Pleasure Island. At Mannequins. At Mannequins, yeah. This defensive no. It's nothing like P.I.

Keep P.I.'s name out of your mouth. That is the energy there. I see a lot of people mourning people that died recently. Do you feel like if I had a time machine, that's where I would go? If I was like, I got the access to the closet from the Stephen King book where he tries to save JFK. But I only would go back to late 90s. I would just go straight to Pleasure Island and be like, how was this?

The clubs haven't opened yet. I'll just do the brand new Disney Quest location. If you did that, if you used the time machine chip on that, and then were like, uh-oh, it's bad. And then I was like, I don't like it. There's no way it was bad. And they're like, is there anything bad that's going to happen in the next three years or so? And I'd be like, nope.

Nope. Shut up and kiss me. You're my husband now. It's New Year's Eve. It's New Year's Eve. What's 9-11? Don't think about it. It's just another tuesday don't worry

well this is hey you're like you're getting good ones i i feel like we're we've got a consistent theme there's uh you know this this sci-fi thing and like you know the the the optimistic sci-fi dreamers of the 50s i feel i could have only imagined a world where you could just buy a battery that charges your personal transistor radio that you do everything on. And I can only assume, Eva, that everything worked out great with this fuel rod. Okay. So here's what happened. I showed up. My phone was dying.

I was like, it wasn't quite dying yet. I think I did mini golf. And then I was like, okay, I'll deal with this phone thing so I can hang out for a while. So I went to basically one of the little souvenir shops. And I asked, do you guys sell bricks for phones? And they're like, no, but there's a Fuel Rod kiosk and this guy gave me like very elaborate instructions like go out that way go past food donuts go down this alley it's right by the bathroom so i walked i did this route this route got to the fuel kiosk and not only was it turned off but like all the places you could put money in and the things that dispense fuel rods had been like glued over with like

plastic like like shut down so violently so i was like huh so then i went to another part of city walk and i asked another person if there was if they sold bricks and they're like no but there's a fuel rod kiosk and they sent me, very specific instructions to another one. So I walked around and around and around and down a long hallway to a bathroom. Fuel Rod kiosk, like Cronenberg glued shut. Wow. So not- Did Fuel Rod like not pay a bill? All right, this is what happens.

This is what happens. None of the employees in the park have been informed that this happened like they don't know that something's gone wrong with the fuel rods angry gluing is happening today in multiple locations so that's when i started my clock started ticking i was like i'm not gonna see creighton waters i can get stuck here forever if i can't get an uber um but then after i knew i was coming out to talk about this, I started looking into it. And guys, it's not good. No. And not to haunt you too much, but I do have a few around right here.

Oh, my God. So you bought one at one point? Well, okay. I bought this underneath the Hungry Bear restaurant at Disneyland. I, once again, the bathrooms. And I do know one of the kiosks you were talking about, I was there, I passed it a lot between the Press Penny location,

which I did find on my Press Pennies. Oh, yeah. And the fuel rod was right next to Press Penny. Yeah, please. Oh, yeah, wait, Eva's never seen one of these. You didn't get your hands on one. No. That's a fuel rod, there you go go This is a lot heavier than it should be

The one I do have that Charges you from like four times is like the size of a credit card And it's like Oh is it because of the lawsuit Well there's something going on with the lawsuit Oh right Wait where's your press panties Oh my press panties are here

It's four Incredible Hulks a Sp SpongeBob, and a Spider-Man. Eva, did you know these pennies are maybe pre... Like, I think they may be pre-pressed, or you don't actually bring your own penny. Well, you don't put pennies in anymore. You don't put pennies in. I ran a credit card. Everybody was acting like I should have known this,

but I didn't know. The fact that you thought that... I thought these were fresh... It'd be funny if you put your credit card, and you were like, this isn't my penny. I know. Now, listen, I've looked into this a little bit since we talked about this several days ago. I have not found any proof personally that there is any kind of penny scam going on.

Perhaps in the credit card variety. I forgot that was the point of the discussion. At the zoo, don't you watch your penny get smashed? That's what I said. This was Mike's point is that he feels like machines used to be such that you could watch and make sure it them your penny gets smashed this this was this was the point this was mike's point is that he feels like machines used to be such that you could watch and make sure it was your penny the way a father makes sure that the right baby is going in the delivery to the general baby room whatever yeah right uh i didn't do this it was covid uh but you make sure it's yours so

you what you watch the end um and i it seemed like a revelation in that episode when i but i i when i said maybe there's no pennies happening at all maybe they have a bunch of pennies just pre in there but then i looked into it and i couldn't find any proof so i might have been talking shit about penny machines not knowing what i'm talking about there might be no penny what i the discussion i did find about penny machines was this um the the big auto fill in if you're asking a pressed penny question is why is this allowed people are kind of upset they're like because you're ruining currency and there's some loophole that makes it because when you're the rest of the money is like to pay like i couldn't begin to i don't know you're like paying for a souvenir circulation

yeah yeah as long as you never try to change as long as jason doesn't now go to duncan and try to spend those incredible hulk pennies but would they take them even because now you're taking money out of circulation which is ruining the economy yeah how dare you jason this is why it's all going to hell honestly maybe another thing trump will fix in term two. Right. Press pennies? We're not smashing them anymore. We're not smashing. No more smash. Get your last smash in.

I think the international parks, it's just like a metal circle. It's just a slug, basically. They just take some metal and turn it into metal. They just take some metal and then they give you a pressed thing of that. This might have to be a runner throughout the series. I actually, the Googling I did, I started to feel bad about what I said about pressed pennies. Wow. I feel like I besmirched their name.

But Mike, do you still feel like something bad is going on? Yes. I think it's weird that you don't bring your own penny. That's the magic trick. I brought a penny from home. Now I'm going to see this magic machine puts my favorite character, the Incredible Hulk, on my penny I brought from home.

I entirely agree with Mike here. Do you both agree i'm not saying i disagree but do you both like it it has to be yours yes yes that's why that's the magic trick that's why it's special yeah who gives a shit about a magic you may as well it doesn't even matter that it's doing it on a penny if it's not your penny you may as well just get me like a little piece of copper whatever pennies are technically uh with the hulk on it the whole thing is that i brought it here it is now it's transformed this is something of mine and they've made it right they made it better much better they put a better fit fuck you lincoln yeah lincoln banner is the guy okay what did lincoln really ever do? The minions, however.

If Wilkes Booth approached Bruce Banner, fucking shit goes down differently. Okay? He's turning very green and beats the shit out of him. And that incident is much more entertaining than whatever dumb play they're watching. Right, and Hulk watched play now afterward. Hulk will enjoy theater.

That's what I would have gone. Hulk wonder what happened next. Speculate at intermission. This is one of those cases I feel like where I didn't have a dog in the fight and Mike, your passion won me over. Now I am like, it better be my penny. Right. Jason doesn't feel this way though.

I don't want to just buy a metal slug with my credit card. Jason doesn't want to say this though because he spent so much money on these dumb fucking pennies that aren't his. Well, I also ended up accidentally buying. I tried to buy one of the Disney 100 anniversary coins that Taryn Killam was talking about. Right, right. But that's not a press. Those are just coins. No, that's just a coin.

It dispenses. But when you do your credit card reader, I ended up with four of them. So, you know. Those I like, though. I don't like these things. You don't like these. I don't like these things because they're not yours. But if it's exactly the same thing, but you knew it was your penny, you love it now.

Yes. If it was Jason's pennies, I would be all on board. These coins he's talking about, I like because there's no like pretending, there's no expectation I had before. Right. There's no bait and switch. Okay. Anyway, this is-

So fuel rods. Fuel rods. Okay. So here's the thing with fuel rods. That's crazy. When they dropped fuel rods originally, the whole point was that you go up to a machine, you'd buy a $ fuel rod and then you were promised on the machine unlimited exchanges for free unlimited exchanges there was a sign on

the seat on the on the machine that saying as long as you have a fuel rod you put a fuel rod in you get a fresh one out oh this was a trade i have one too yeah from disneyland you can charge this okay you have to get a charger but you don't need to yeah you can, from Disneyland. You can charge this. Okay. You have to get a charger. But you don't need to. Yeah, you can charge it. Yeah, you can charge it with, I think it's micro USB, and it comes with some cords. It comes with these tiny little fucking shitty cords,

and this is a USB-C adapter. So if you have an Android or the new iPhones that charge with USB-C, then it also comes with a tiny lightning cable, which I think I've already lost. Okay. Well, that's not fuel rods. How recent is this purchase? This is, let's say, September of 2023. Oh, okay.

Fairly recently. So this is after the lawsuit. Yes, this is after the lawsuit. There's a lawsuit of all the things. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, and it's a correct lawsuit. Whoa.

Yeah. Basically, they just stopped at one point. So, like, at one point, they just stopped giving free exchanges. They were planning on charging $3 per exchange. Right. And when people complained, the people from the company were like, it wasn't in the contract that you got free exchanges forever but when you bought like the lawsuit was like by this

company in la this law this law firm they were like well but it said on the machine free that was the contract and you've seen that you've paid you signed a mini contract while you were like doing the thing or whatever bullshit yeah so there was a massive lawsuit and so finally it got it went back to if you had bought an original one you could become like a legacy member and you would go back to getting free exchanges but the bigger problem with fuel rods now that everyone's realized is that there's only enough charge in a fuel rod to charge like one third of one charge of one phone. What? They don't do the full? My God.

There's a post on our Disney World from like three years ago where it's like the amount of amperage or voltage is like 20% of a modern phone. So that's a three-year-old phone. And they're saying it's about 20%. I think my brother had an older iPhone and it got him up to like 40% or something from like six. Okay, but as time goes on, I'm not defending them, but maybe there was a time where, it doesn't sound like there was ever a time

where you got a full battery. So that sucks. But like it only gets worse. Jesus. $30. To not, to maybe charge a third of your phone and then exchange program is out the legacy this is this is some disney wet dream stuff the legacy members only yeah yeah they're taking notes from fuel rod and then i try to get in there and it's all glued over what's going on fuel rod oh no because you don't want to waste phone space oh

wait yeah i didn't take a photo i didn't even take a picture of the glue the glue looks like completely sealed and is that like a sorry is it like a prize machine at an arcade where there'd be a flap but you can't flap yeah exactly it was like so you jammed things in to all the orifices of the machine. And you couldn't put your credit card in. That's just nothing. Yeah, that's sealed off. You think you're putting your like, bop, bop, bop. It was so weird.

It's like going to a Meow Wolf with a fake machine that doesn't work. Yes. And trying to act like it does. But rather than just getting rid of the machine, they keep it there to taunt people. You can't be the only person this happens to. And also there's people around the park telling you you need to go there to get your thing. But also I went on their website and I was trying to find locators. And the locator for Fuel Rod Kiosk says that there's one outside Voodoo Donuts at Universal CityWalk right now.

They don't put a little glue icon on that one. This one is just a little glue icon on that one. This one is... You know, that one's a little glue splat. Well, put down. I think they replaced the machines because I thought it was working when I was there. When we were there in November. Did something happen between Eva's visit and our visit?

Potentially. Maybe something weird was going on. Maybe it was because Horror Nights was kicking off and maybe there were more people there. Were people doing weird stuff to the machines? What if it wasn't glue? Oh, no. Oh, no.

It was frosting from Voodoo Donuts. White frosting. Somebody had to be very horny to cover two entire... There was a fuel ride... Maybe they brought it from home. In the hotel at Sapphire Falls, there was a fuel ride. Maybe they brought it from home. In the hotel at Sapphire Falls, there was a fuel rod machine too

that also seemed to be running. Functional. So if you're stuck in an airport or at a theme park or a hotel and you want 20% of a phone charge, walk on down to the fuel rod machine. So my question is, if you want a full charge of your phone,

could you pay $30, get a fuel rod, join the Legacy program, charge your phone 20%, put in the machine, take one out. Yes. 20 more percent. I believe that's right. Yes. And you just have to sit near the machine for as long

as that takes. Well, you don't have to sit near them. You can walk around. You can walk around. You can walk around. You can walk around. There's some in the park, in the parks too, I think. So your route has to be from one machine to another machine. You certainly have to plan. You got to pay for park admission. That's part of it now too.

So you've paid your park ticket. But I don't know if you can join the legacy program. Is that not cut off by time? Jason, are you a legacy member? Because that's a recent purchase. But I think they backtracked i don't think they implemented the fines so they didn't implement the legacy program it's just back to the old days i think so at least that's what your contract no i was poking around oh no when i got it i was poking around to see if it would because i'm a legacy member. I bought this before the lawsuit.

So I have it. I don't know what it is. I'm glad you guys hadn't told me there's legacy members in my press. I would have been so nervous doing this podcast so many months. I'm a Fuel Rod legacy member. Whoa. Fuel Rod legacy member. I'm so intimidated all of a sudden.

And I think the important thing to convey is that these things suck. They're bad, yeah. They are like the emergency car starter that you keep in your trunk and it'll it'll get you a little bit i think i need to feel the weight on this can you yeah sure it's way too heavy way too heavy and for modern phones like i have call having a plastic case jason's got like a little like cigar hold all the shitty little cables. I don't know that I got all the shitty little cables either. It's so heavy.

It's called Nightcore, N-I-T-E-C-O-R-E, and it's like 90 bucks, and it's really good. It charges your stuff really, really fast. Yeah, I have an Anker one from 2015, and it holds multiple charges still. If you took that, though, and you put it in your fist and closed it,

that's sort of like a good... It's like a roll a quarter. Roll a quarter situation. Some wise guy's nose. You could break some sort of... Something Tracy would do in a pinch. Yeah, what do I got? How can I do some damage?

Yeah, you punch, punch, and then the acid comes out in your hand. Yeah, you beat up Penny Face, the Tracy villain. You give him a pressed penny. You turn him into a pressed penny. That's the second part of my lecture is how to defeat these bad guys. The weak points in their facial structures.

Right, right. This also, by the way, caution, risk of fire and burns. Do not open crush heat above 45 degrees Celsius. Don't put that in an electric kettle. Yeah, on the website, they're like, mine got really hot. Is this normal? And they're like, yes. Yes.

That means it's working. This sucks. Yeah, it gets hot. There's no percentages on it. It just kind of like sometimes it's lit up red when it's charging. And then I think when it's charged, it switches to blue. It's not great. And I have an iPhone 13 mini.

So it's a smaller battery. And it really doesn't charge very much. It feels like sticky, too. What's the name of the company? Well, that's Jason. Jason, the Sheridan House residue. I was eating a coffee bun or an apple fritter. It's not a weird thing.

It's a sweet roll thing. Yeah, it's an LA place. It's been open forever. If I touched any of Jason's clothes, I'd feel that too. It's all donut prints residue. It's frosting. It's LA.

They got the photos on the wall. They have an unusually large number of photos of George Lopez on the wall. He loves donut prints. 17 photos. Yeah. Wait, is donut prints on Magnolia? No, it's on Olive. Donut Hut is on Magn wall. He loves Donut Prince. 17 photos. Is Donut Prince on Magnolia? No, it's on Olive.

Donut Hut is on Magnolia. Oh, all right, all right. I think. Yeah, nice. Jason's on Donut. He runs DonutTracker.com. Also, the company that owns this is named Save Me Productions.

One word, Save Me, capital S, capital M. And no one has checked on them? We're messing up real bad. Oh my God. It's a combination of save me products, save me batteries, and Tricopian, which is Switzerland.

I'm scared about what Tricopian does. It's better than nothing, but it's not worth $30. Part of the lawsuit was this sign on the machines that said free unlimited swapping. Prelimin permanently on all the machines yeah yeah they're complaining like no no no yeah it's like they're like you can't no you can't do that so tricopian fucked you um according to the suit the plaintiff and proposed class members who bought the freel rod now own quote a far less desirable product than less desirable product that they would not have purchased.

Yeah, but they own it now. But they thought they could get, yeah. I literally, I bought it because I left my battery in Burbank and we were staying in Anaheim for a few days. And so the only time it came through, like my brother's phone was almost dead and it gave him a little jump yeah it is like triple a it is like a triple a program for phone batteries basically

it would probably keep your phone at like 15 if you kept getting new ones yeah i don't know that it could get your phone up to like 80 but but it probably could keep it at 15%. It feels like the end of tech. It feels like the end of capitalism. How could things get this bad? Yeah, how do we allow Save Me Productions to- It feels like what'll happen soon, soon phones won't even have their own battery and you'll need fuel rods in general

just to turn your phone on. Oh God., and you'll need fuel rods in general just to turn your phone on. Oh, God. And then you'll have to go from fuel rod to fuel rod to just keep your phone on. You have to live in a- That's an end of capitalism. Live in a 20-minute city, whatever we call them, 30-minute city. 15-minute city.

15-minute city. The biggest threat. The biggest threat the Democrats are trying to do. They want us to eat the bugs and buy the fuel rods. Eat the bugs. Wait, did we have no scott you have the laptop who owns save me products or tricopian well it's funny you ask i am already on the linkedin of the ceo of tricopian uh tricopian and dba is fuel so

tricopian is fuel rod. His name is Chi Yao. He's in San Diego. Okay. A passionate, energetic, visionary innovator, entrepreneur, business leader with a broad and diverse skill set, professional experience, and cultural background gained from over two decades of exposure in technology industries and highly challenging global leadership assignments at startups and major corporations. I think we've won jargon bingo. That's a full board. I don't. Is that just like the. I read that and I was like, am I reading the default?

What comes in your LinkedIn bio if you don't change it? That was all nothing. Yeah. I feel like the only way you get these massive contracts with Disney, Orlando, all these airports is if you have so much startup money that you're like, yeah, and you just buy it once and then we charge it forever. Whoever's like the Dippin' Dots lawyer, there's a lawyer that takes all these different brands that no one really likes that much and makes a deal and puts them everywhere in theme parks. I was going to fight for Dippin' Dots, but my body didn't feel like it. I like Dippin' Dots more than I like Fuel Rots. Yeah, I do too.

I would have to say that as well, and I don't like Dippin' Dots. This is unrelated, but it's funny, I think, and you tell me if I'm wrong. I looked up Save Me Products, and I got Save Me Products, Inc. And what I believe, this is not the same Save Me Products and I got Save Me Products Inc. And what I believe, this is not the same Save Me Products Inc. Okay. Because this is Save Me Products Inc.

which are offers for stockmen, the cold weather newborn calf hood to help battle and prevent frostbite. This is... Well, I need one of those.

Yeah. Save Me Products, this company, Save Me Products, offers a newborn calf hood for your calf on a farm.

What you're showing looks like a Mexican wrestling mask. It's like a Lucha Libre mask. It's a mask for newborn calves. So this is a different, I think this is a different. But what if it wasn't? Well, I'm reading on. I'm not sure yet. Fuel rods.

They also created fuel rods. They sell balaclavas for cattle, and we also sell these shitty little batteries. We also offer interesting horse collectibles and some items for the farmer, rancher, horse owner, antique hound, art connoisseur, collectible items that may just want you to save me. What? What is that sentence? Huh? We also carry a few one-of-a-kind fine handcrafted small leather

items from a local professional craftsman. I'm sensing equine crime. It's that villainous cow face, I bet. There's a... You can get a sticker that says, faith is confidence in God's world

so that's for your window that's for a window i can't make heads or tails what kind of company i'm looking at a religious cow mask company just a mask company of course we assume we talk about this on the sidewalk saga i'm sorry i was looking for this earlier but i did find it and it is funny this is jumping back a little bit in the lawsuit. But when people were like, when they stopped doing the unlimited fuel rods, someone reached out. This is on a mice chat article about this whole thing. Someone reached out.

Is that Len Testa? No. No, no, that's Dusty Sage. Okay, sorry. Different guy. So somebody reached out and was like, hey, why have you changed your thought policy? And this was fuel rods response and they just print it.

All caps. There was and is no contract signed for free swapping. Dear sir or madam, exclamation point. I am sorry you are upset. There was and is no contract signed for free swapping. We offered this for over five years, but it has come to a point where we can no longer do this. We do have an app out now that will offer specials etc i can send you a code that will

be good until the end of the month that will help with transition please remember that the fuel rod is rechargeable if anything goes awry with the product we will still on a replacement kind regards name redacted fuel rod team member um that that is by the, that is my level of psycho, is that I have used and charged the fuel ride multiple times. Like, my brain... Outside of a theme park. Outside of a theme park. I'll just plug it in, yeah, to the USB plug and charge it when I go to bed. I mean, I feel like it's a good maybe car, emergency car thing.

Yeah, car emergency is good, but I also don't know. I guess Southern Californiaia the temperature doesn't fluctuate too much so you could leave it in a car probably a little uncharged after like four months i have a phone charger that you you hand crank oh i've seen those yeah it's like it's also a radio and other things and a flashlight but it's like i feel like that would probably work faster than a fuel rod to charge your phone i I have so many questions. There's also another guy, a co-founder and a COO, Joe Yagley. So Xiao and Joe Yagley are the guys to watch. He was part of something called Eagle Enterprises, Powergenics,

a lot of real sounding companies. Guess what, private citizens? If you're in the world of podcasting, your ass about to become public. Jason, how much do you think a large size calf hood is how much yeah can i buy one right now uh yeah what's that material work what are you working with canvas well you there's a oh there's many paragraphs explaining about the hood how do you know if they're a boy or a girl cow? Because like, can you get pink ones with little flowers? This is a black one. This looks like the calf is robbing a 7-Eleven.

I don't like the black ones. I want gender conforming. Oh, okay. You want blue and pink. I want one with like rocket ships and Spider-Man. I want one with like Barbie. And really big wasteful calf gender reveal party. Yeah, wasteful to the level of selling random,

shitty lithium ion batteries just to a lot of touristy places. The only difference is that there's large and small calf hoods, but you can get one that has a reflective stripe over the calf's head. So I assume in the dark you'll be able to see the calf as if it was jogging. Yeah, exactly. It's like taking a late night. You know, like you

wear that if you're a jogger. These calves don't look happy with their hoods. Also, it looks like this is photoshopped on the calf.

Yeah. This doesn't appear to be actually on this calf's head. Oh, no. When you put the hoods on, they start kicking and braying. Yeah. I wanted to know more of the trinkets. Oh,, when you put the hoods on, they start kicking and braying. Yeah, I wanted

more of the trinkets. Oh, on this website? Well, there's the Faith is Confidence in God's World. Terrible graphic design. And then there's a lot of blankets, different color blankets you can get. Wallets, you can buy leather wallets.

Did you have a price point for that calf hood? Oh wait, yeah, that was the game. We didn't answer the question. We forgot to answer it. I was going to say around $40. It's a little higher, more expensive. $120. No, not that bad.

$80. Well, $62.59. $62.59, that's a lot of numbers. And if you want the reflective stripe, it's $66.75. Why are they in this middle ground of, why is their smashed pennies got to come into that? It's $66.20 and then four Hulk smashed pennies. You must procure these items from Universal Florida. Or you can get Dalmatian toys with little boots on.

I mean, how much is that? Let's see. That is $15. And they have one units in stock. It says one unit. They have one single Dalmatian with boots? It's unclear if they have the two different dogs in the picture or one

of them. Does the website have an about me or about us section? Yeah. Let me get to that. Thank you. We're finding that one of the Save Me productions might be okay. Information. Eva, tread carefully. They're at the L.A. County Fair.

They're going to walk off to your delicious huckleberry pie or something and flip it over. Yeah, don't mess with Save Me. Nice prize-winning pie you got there. It would be a shame if an angry calf who's been wearing a hoodie doesn't like all day. Walking up to a plate of sugar cookies and

breaking one in half. Be careful. I'm having a problem finding it about... Keep looking, Mike. Yeah, I will. You got back, though. What happened? That's why I didn't get a drink at Dead Coconut Club. Because I was like, there's no time. You to see the show you got to see the show what happened

crate and waters yeah um i i alone sat in a dark uh conference room and watched so you did make it back you had just enough fuel rods be damned you did get back okay okay like there's i'm not i don't get to the other thing was like i i did have like a little bit of time so i was considering going into um i was considering coming back or or going into uh sorry into horror nights because i was curious about some of the very hyper specific like orlando uh mazes they have oh sure yeah because there's ones that are based on just on rides that they have or lore that's specific to orlando and less on movies but you're right i didn't realize how massively popular it was there

and there was no possible way to get in that night so i was like i can't get in there and then also my phone's dying a few rods no uh oh no i poisoned myself but i won't know for 24 hours and then i was like okay i'm gonna walk through dead coconut club and i was like ah and then i just sprinted back and got an uber and i made it back to see creighton waters oh phew thank god thank god uh uh okay okay because if that if we had caught if we had caused this the creighton water show to not have what if i bought a fuel rod and only gotten 10% out of it, and then I'd been just so angry? Yeah.

What if I somehow gotten a fuel rod, gotten into the park, and then realized I was fucked? That you'd been ripped off by the bad Save Me production. Exactly. Not this good one. Not the good one. I like these guys. Are they based in one of the Dakot i i like these guys are they like based on

like one of the dakotas or something you know where do calves get this coal it's a good question but i have i have a couple questions that are answered here on the website that i do want to let everyone um in on uh question do i need the to dry the calf off or will save me ears do that answer save me ears is not a calf dryer in cold weather you should always dry the calf off especially if the temperature is 20 degrees or colder where the newborn calf is located so save me ears are not drying your calf okay you have to do that before you put the ears on them all right okay dry ads only here's a quote j, if you'll excuse me, I have another question to read. All right, fine. Fine.

Because he's smashing their ears down. I have 100 cows to calve out during cold weather. Do I need one for each calf? Answer, save me ears is only meant to be used for the first 24 to 36 hours of a newborn calf's life. After that, it should be removed or passed on to the next calf. We recommend having one save me ears for the most cows you have had. These sentences are not that great. That normally calve in one day.

C-A-L-V-E when I keep saying that. I may be calve. Well, because calf and calve is a, it's also a verb. To calve? I guess I didn't know that. Calving a calf is calving. Oh. So I should be saying calving on some of these words.

Or whatever. No, no, I'm saying that calving is Oh. So I should be saying calving on some of these words. Or whatever. No, no, I'm saying calving is giving birth to a calf. Maybe we don't have to do that L so hard. Is that where you're calving? I don't know. Calving works fine. I don't know. Calving, calving.

Animal husbandry. Not calving. So you're supposed to, okay. You're supposed to give 100 cows. Yeah, but you don't need one for each cow. If 10 of them are going to give birth every day. Right, then we're going to be born at the same time. Yeah, you need 100 because that's too many.

It's $6,000 worth of ears. You also, the turnover, you've got to be calving. You've got to be calving so often to make this thing worthwhile yeah this is where i pull out as a shark this is a micro it's not and my calf can't wear it all year long this is for the first 36 hours only i'm out this is how we know they're not as corrupt as other save me productions allegedly is that when they didn't just go how many how many do I need? They just went 100. 100. Right. Right now. What's your credit card number? You know that they're good people because they're like, no, you actually only need it for the first day.

Right. Is there any sort of exchange program that they offer? It was 10% of the cows ears. Hand me down. When the kids get too big, you can pass the gloves on to them. I can go back to the Calvin hood machine and exchange it for another one. Can I become a legacy member for the Calvin machine? I don't believe there's any sort of rental, at least that I can see just from this brief glance.

Fuck. All I know, and I don't know what the context is, but there's just a graphic here that says lost profit with like an angry looking cow. It's ears. That cow's coming to me in my dreams. I think what the subtext is that we're not saying is that if the calf gets frostbite, its ears fall off. Oh. That's what we're fighting against with these hoods?

Yeah. It's smashing down their ears and keeping the ears warm. Oh, right, right. Because their ears might just like get brittle and snap off. And the newborn, they're not functioning. So for the first 36 hours, you're protecting the ears. It's also kind of like an S&M mask for the calf. It looks a little Zodiac.

These are going on the website, right? These are going on the Instagram. We've got to put these public. Let's make sure people are just going, or what's the website again? You can go peruse it yourself. Of course, it's save-me-products.com slash SMP.

Might want to just put that in your favorites so we keep track of it, you know? Can we ask them, did the Dalmatian have to wear boots because its feet fell off? Oh, do they sell Dalmatian boots? Or is that why the toy has boots on because something happened to its feet in the frostbite?

Well, Paul Pats are very sensitive. So yeah, you probably want to keep those ones. It's hot. You got to be careful where the dog walks.

Oh yeah. This is in North Dakota. This is where they're based out of. I knew it was a Dakota. You were right. Email us. Sorry, our email form

is not working below because our web host updated their security. It will send but not deliver email to us. In the meantime. What does it mean to send not deliver? It us. In the meantime, what does it mean to send not deliver?

It just goes into a chute and then it ends up in a river? Your email will be printed and it's still awake. We had the time to write all this out but just put another

email on there. Mike, please do more research. Tell us that there's an episode about Yellowstone where this is the plot where they're trying to There's a whole season about cow hoods.

Mike would have known that if he'd watched the show. Cow hoods. Yeah. They have links to some of their other favorite products and websites.

Frozencalfears.com Puppywindows.com Wait, no. I swear to God. Red Border Collies Sheep and Cattle Dogs of a more rare color, little valley ranch, white-tailed deer breeding stock.

What's puppy windows? Go back to puppy windows. Can I just say, while you're on the way to that, Mike, you and I were doing some logistics planning about this series the other day, and you said, well, maybe we could fit that in if we just put it on one of the lighter sectors. We now, what we thought of like fuel rod kiosks. That sounds like a funny five minutes. Now we're deep into cow hoods.

There's no such thing as a light sector. It doesn't matter if we add another one because any way we slice it, we're going long. All right, now read about what was it? No, this is just like a puppy classified. This is like you look for puppies, think that you're looking for windows for puppies to look through or windows for dog pet stores oh oh uh there is a bright oh yeah because you're asking how much is that dog in the window i'm so stressed by the energy of everyone that indicates that this could you have no,

nobody's dying to wrap this up. Clearly this website could be read in full. Which is fine, but we have fucking, how many of these we gotta do? There's one more thing I want to say. Okay. Other than, okay, there is some website called Praying Medic Books, which are inspirational books on faith and healing. No, Praying Medic is a q anon guy oh really he's a big q anon guy really i think you should see in the will summer book yeah maybe

oh like emotional healing big book things okay he's a big he's a big guy he has like a q anon oh wow so calf hooves are q damn it calf hooves are q we Damn it. Calf hooves are Q. We should have known. It's going to be around any corner. We started with Epstein. We started with Save the Children and the moon. Scott, do you want to summon the Sector Stone? It seems like you're... Oh, yeah.

That's probably a good idea. Oh, look. Hey, there it is. It's the Sector Stone. Can anyone else see it better than me? Oh, yeah. It's a Sector Stone. Can anyone else see it better than me? Oh, yeah. It's a little calf hood. You'd think it would have been a fuel rod, but no.

That's a calf hood. Nope, it's a calf hood. Oh, it could fit right onto the littlest calf ever. Oh, wonderful. There's a website called Sand Hill Saddlery, and I only want to bring this up because remember, Jason, early on in his Los Angeles career, interviewed to work at a place that made horse saddles. He did? Yes.

Oh, yeah. Jason thought he was going to make saddles? Look, the recession was really hard. I was applied to every job. You can blame everything on the recession. It's recession this, it's 9-11 that. Yeah, it was mostly shampooing saddles in the Rancho area of Burbank. Jason was going to get a job shampooing horse saddles.

I don't say this about you. This is going to sound like an insult to you, but I would say this about myself. I'll say it about Eva. I don't know. Eva's multi-talented. The three of us, none of us are going to be good at shampooing saddles.

That's why you didn't get the job. That's madness. No, no, no. I said I was looking for an exciting, fulfilling new job. And they went, this job is neither exciting nor fulfilling. Like, I literally just plucked it from, like, cover letters. Stop writing.

They can't pretend. Oh, man. That's what they said to me when I applied to write for Ellen. You'd be better off applying at the shampoo. I applied to be a front desk person at a dental office or a doctor's office. The board of Sherman Oaks had seen it when I showed up, and there were 30 people there, and they were like, thank you for coming.

Thank you for submitting your resumes. You'll hear back from us soon. And I'm like, did 30 people apply for this job? We just had to show up? They were just seeing who would show up? This was a dental office? It was something like that. It was just like- Why'd you say the address?

That's not far from where you live. You're like, it's all the way in the 15 minutes. It's like Encino or something. I don't live anywhere near that. This is 2008, right? Yeah, it's like 2008, 2009. Do you want me to see about Sandhill's salary if they can hire you? All the way up to the Dakotas?

I got a three-year-old kid. Saddlery if they can fire you? All the way up to the Dakotas? What I want to do is say, Eva Anderson, you survived. Five Guys is the Right of the Multiverse of Madness. Oh, God. Do you have any energy in which you'd want to plug anything? Do you need a fuel rod to give you the energy? Just read this website if you could for me

while in your plug. Oh, so even it's been handed a plug. I want to plug Sand, what is it? Sand Hills Saddlery. Sand Hills Saddlery. Kind Handmade Saddles by Sean Kramer. Serious gear for serious cowboys.

Sandhills-saddlery.com Also Praying Medic. And all the books on that website. Truth Teller. You are the plan. Hugh is plan. You are the plan. Thank you for that.

We are all digital soldiers. Trump is ascendant. Trump is president. And, of course, where we go when we go on. And Copperfield will make the moon disappear. Yes. And Trump and only Trump. He was sent from heaven to bring it back.

When Trump says, we will all put on our calf hoods and we will all ascend. But they're going to have the reflectors and nobody will bump it. It's going to be perfect. You put the calf hoods on. Stand down and stand by in your calf hoods.

Dry yourself off before you put your hood on. The hood will not dry you off. Folks, you got to dry before hood goes on, okay? We love hood, but can't be wet. The hoods don't dry them. Thanks to Aaron Gairdner for the art, our own Mike Carlson and Zach Reno for the theme music,

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