Podcast: The Ride - The CityWalk Orlando Saga: Malltiverse of Madness 5 - 1

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

The AGE OF BUFFETT begins. Jimmy Buffett, the star of CityWalk, is finally discussed at length on Podcast: The Ride. Specifically, an outdoor sea plane that seems to have an interesting story. Phase 5..., Sector 1 contains: Lone Palm Airport Bar Hemisphere Dancer To level up your Saga experience with bonus and ad-free episodes, subscribe to Podcast: The Ride’s Club 3 at  patreon.com/podcasttheride.  FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:24 Dog. When your town has made you frown. When your square has made you swear. When life gives you one more punch. You need a donut soaked in Captain Grunge You need a place, a place to stroll with alcohol A place that features part of the Berlin Wall Where steampunk robots sell chocolate snacks
Starting point is 00:00:59 A place where you can tattoo your lower back So let's go take a walk. Let's all go to CityWalk Orlando tonight. Tonight. Podcast to Ride presents the CityWalk Orlando Saga. Multiverse of madness. A daily, extremely necessary series exploring the shops, restaurants, and cosmic wonder that make up Universal CityWalk Orlando.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Welcome to Podcast the Ride presents the CityWalk Orlando Saga Multiverse of Madness. My name is Mike Carlson and I have to say, before we even introduce anyone else, that I'm having a blast doing this podcast. Joining me as always, Scott Gairdner. I'm trying to come up with one immediately. Okay, good luck. Good luck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You seem enthusiastic about this podcast. I am, that's right.
Starting point is 00:02:00 How about Jason Sheridan? How are you feeling, sir? Can you do it in any fun way? Can you say it? Express it? I know, I'm thinking, I'm having a lot of fun, and I don't want to run from recording this fun podcast. I mean, sure.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Yeah, it's not as good. You guys are more musical. You got to add the A or something to it. Oh, yeah, it's because we're more musical, I think. I'm having a lot of fun. Don't want to run away. Okay. That changed everything. That changed everything.
Starting point is 00:02:29 With one letter, it's all different. My man, now you're on island time with the rest of us. Thank you for doing that. So yes, today, here we are. A very exciting situation. Yeah, I mean, I think we got to check and make sure. Oh yeah, you're right. I have a feeling where we're going. That's true.
Starting point is 00:02:48 This construct. We have to double check. Is this a good time to do it? Alright, let's see if we can call him in. Sector Keeper, where are we going today? Boys, boys, today begins Phase 5. Age of Buffet. Phase 5, Sector 1 is
Starting point is 00:03:04 Lone Palm Airport bar and the hemisphere dancer wondered the story behind that is fins up boys whoa wow he's right the age of buffett wow uh an imposing phase potentially or a phase for celebration. I think celebration, that's what he would have wanted. Well, and isn't that, in a way, what we're doing today? Because we've discussed Jimmy Buffett's passing,
Starting point is 00:03:36 something that unfortunately, in the time that it's taken us to get this off the ground, that is an event that has occurred, R.I.P. Jimmy Buffett, and we celebrated him a little bit on a Christmas Club 3 episode with all of his Christmas albums. However, there has not been the proper eulogy episode.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Is that kind of what this is? It's tricky because, yeah, to some degree that is what this is, but I started unraveling some other stuff too, so maybe it's not. I almost feel self-conscious about this being the official eulogy episode sure i wasn't sure i just hadn't got an update about the plan that's what i thought because for a while it was we'll just kick it to the saga it'll be in the saga we'll kick it to the saga that's what i thought and then i started
Starting point is 00:04:18 looking into some of the stuff that i know we needed to talk about and i was like oh well there's some like questions here and i don't know that this is the proper tribute. You know? Well, there was also a discussion as we were forming the sector boundaries with the sector keeper. There was a discussion of, you know, we need to address in a bigger way Jimmy Buffett's passing. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Do we do that with his restaurant? His name is in it. Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville. Or is the true spirit ofmy in a way just outside the restaurant just outside there's like a little pathway and it's along the water we're getting closer to jimmy spirit i feel yes and there there is this there is this little bar um that where you get the breeze better than you get it um back the restaurant itself. And then there is a certain decorative item that is more than a decorative item. And therefore, should this not be the official Jimmy Tripp,
Starting point is 00:05:13 even more than Margaritaville? Here's the thing. We're not going to know until this episode is done. I don't know how this is going to go. Are we going to have to add another one? I don't know what we're going to do about anything. That's all I'm saying. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Neither did he. You know what? I don't think he knew. He didn't know. When he first put pen to paper and. I just spilled the Diet Coke. All right. Well, yeah, like you were saying before you spilled that Diet Coke, the, you know, it's,
Starting point is 00:05:41 you've got a lax attitude. You don't know exactly where you're going jimmy didn't know that when he first put pen to paper to uh write a song or to write all three of the chords in his song that it was eventually going to turn into a restaurant chain and you didn't know that you were gonna knock over that diet coke and then still be cleaning it up and wiping and having to yell while you're doing it. Oh, but now you're back. Okay. You should have had a song called Party Fowl or something.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Party Fowl or whatever they call it, you know, when you drop a drink or something at a party. What could a de-stigmatized party fowling? Well, that's true. Today's destination seems like it would be a place where they're spilling a lot. You know, people haphazardly knocking over their boat drinks and such. Into the sand. Into the sand. That's a fun little drink sand blend.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Gotta reek it up. Another thing he could have done a song about. Liquidy sand. Drink sand. Sugar in the sand. You know that you're drunk if you're drinking. Drink sand. Watch out for you're drunk if you're drinking. Drink sand. Watch out for the paper umbrellas.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah, so anyway, so everything's fine. I've recovered from spilling the tall boy Diet Coke. Extra tall Diet Coke. That was the problem. A tall boy like you and your tall elbows reached up and knocked it over. But you know what? Didn't that not loosen us up? You know what?
Starting point is 00:07:07 Maybe it was his spirit moving through your elbow and going, guys, relax. It's not a book report. Y'all are chilling out and talking about your favorite guy. Maybe. He is smiling upon us today. He's in the room with us, and he's guiding me as I flip through many tabs, listing information about his famous plane. I feel like it's been a minute
Starting point is 00:07:31 since there's been one of those episodes where Mike has the- The tabs, yeah. So many things, so many things, too many things. Yes, this is so many things. That's often the fuel of great episodes. That's true. I'm excited, and it makes up for me, who has none.
Starting point is 00:07:43 That's good. I really assumed that you would take the lead here. I'm kind of the same. Yeah. Yeah. We look to our leader. The restaurant website and some Yelp menu pictures just to see how it's changed over the years. Let's just give our just general opinions over us because we're talking about basically like this little oasis outside of margaritaville
Starting point is 00:08:05 restaurant proper in orlando um and it's yeah it's a little bar it's got sand you can dip your little toesies in the sand if you want um and it was nice as of 2003 jimmy buffett put a real life plane of his there now which is now an iconic part of the skyline or whatever, depending on where you're looking. Yes, in the logo of the series. It's one of the primary parts of it. And some listeners noted when they saw that plane in the logo, a number of them asked a question. The question was, if that plane is so prominent in the logo, does that mean that there's some sort of interesting story about the plane? Now, that's a very good question. And I think
Starting point is 00:08:51 there is. I think there is an interesting story. There were interesting questions I had that I've asked on this podcast before. And I think we always say, well, whenever we get to it in the episode about it, that's when we're going to tackle these questions. But I just wanted to get your opinion on the place real quick. Sure. The sand, that little oasis. Have you had a drink there? Scott and I had a drink there with the level keeper when we were there. We discussed it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I have only ever kind of passed through there. You've never had a drink? I've never had a drink. At the Lone Palm Airport? Well, it's not his happy places under the lighthouse and eating a Cinnabon and smoking a very long cigarette. Smoking a long Parliament, which my partner thought was my preferred cigarette. You like longs, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You a longs guy? You've got long cig energy, right? I mean, it is fair. In the handful of times I bought a pack of cigarettes in my life, and as for parliaments, they start going, what kind? And I go, regular. Longer, longer. Longer.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Smokable. Those ones that are coming off of the shelf because they're so long. Those ones that don't fit on your regular shelf. You know what? But it turned out nice. We had lots of nice little cool down moments at the Board of Entry smoking area. We could share the long cigarette very easily.
Starting point is 00:10:13 But this is not your, that's where you go to relax. You pass by it. We've all taken photos at this place with this plane, which apparently has some story associated with it. But do you get any feeling from this little zone? Oh, I got a feeling of relaxation.
Starting point is 00:10:31 It's very chill. Looking back, I do regret not driving a scooter and blasting the horn in the sand. Whoa, wait, what? Blasting the horn? And interrupting the good, good calm mellow vibes uh i mean i don't know a woman did i was passing by this area on the path it was getting a little crowded and one was like use a horn use a horn and i'm like i i didn't touch the horn the whole
Starting point is 00:10:59 time i'm terrified to use that thing but you wanted to use it at the Lone Palm Airport. Or was it going to be like a party horn? Like a party horn, yeah. You could do it along with the steel drum part of Margaritaville. That's true. Yeah, yeah. I don't think it would pitch bend, but you never know. I don't know. Maybe if you put a little different pressure on it.
Starting point is 00:11:21 That's probably a way to play a horn. Even just testing what terrain that thing can go over. Like, can it go through sand? Yeah, how many donuts? Is this a bad idea? Am I losing a deposit doing this? There should be. It should be like a vehicle that can then convert
Starting point is 00:11:38 into something that could go through sand. Like, it should be like an all-terrain vehicle. Well, down at the jersey shore uh in ocean city a lot of the um you know umbrella stations that are kind of set up at the busier beaches do have like sand wheelchair like wheelchairs with giant wheels on them that can go through sand okay i scott i was really impressed that you like went the fall like I'm taking my shoes off, I'm kicking my toesies in the sand.
Starting point is 00:12:09 I did, I did it. I put my bare feet in there and then still a few listeners were like, that Scott foot stuff on Maine, I don't know. I'm like, my feet were covered, listeners. That's where the soon-to-be-announced $30 tier will be coming into play on the Patreon. Oh, yeah. Yeah, famous attractions, really close-up, high-def photos of your feet.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Yeah. I'm no fool. I wouldn't give it away for free. I'm a businessman, just like Jimmy. Yeah. Anyway, it did feel great. It felt very nice and i you know what i do think they carved out a little relaxing zone we had a drink under
Starting point is 00:12:50 the plane's wing that was a very chill spot um and you know and it is an area with a lot of hubba but they you know it's kind of hidden away you go all the way around and then you don't notice the crowd of people sure and this is you like, there's a little kind of section. It's not as, of course, beautiful to sit and look at the view. But in L.A., there's a little kind of nooky area as well. Like, I almost think that's the magic of Margaritaville and Jimmy Buffett in general, is just having a little relaxing place. And, yes, there's not the water view in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:13:26 No, you have a view of a fence and a service road. It's not the best view in the world, to put it mildly. But you got a fire pit there. You got some TV. You got some music. I've had some nice relaxing times sitting in those Margaritaville-themed or painted deck chairs out there. Me too.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And that's more important, I think, as far as like the food, all that stuff, fine. Eating, fine. But having a nice little nook or a little spot is really the place. If all margaritavilles were just a little spot,
Starting point is 00:13:57 that would be ideal, I think. Yeah, and I think it hurts some of the locations. So these ones that have a little extra bar zone, I think are probably the best ones. And the closer to water we can get, some of the locations. These ones that have a little extra bar zone, I think, are probably the best ones. And the closer to water we can get, obviously, the better. Yes. Like the one at Navy Pier in Chicago doesn't have a little spot.
Starting point is 00:14:13 It's by the water, but it's not a little spot. And that's what you want. You want it cozy. You want a little spot. So, yeah, this place is great. This is one of the best places in CityWalk Orlando. Do you think that it is acceptable, given a short time frame, to choose Lone Palm Airport to go have a drink here and perhaps not even food and not go to Margaritaville, the restaurant, proper? I would not be upset with you if you told me you did that. Great.
Starting point is 00:14:39 You just went over here. What do you think, Jason? Yeah, I think that's valid. Yeah. over here. What do you think, Jason? Yeah, I think that's valid. I don't think it's any more different than if you sat on that patio at Margaritaville where sometimes troubadours are
Starting point is 00:14:53 playing their wares. Playing a fife. Playing a fife. Playing Long December on a guitar or something by the Counting Crows. Playing some morass. If you will please indul. Yeah, playing. By the Counting Crows. Playing Zimoraz. Oh, hello there. You know.
Starting point is 00:15:07 If you will please indulge me, sir. Yeah. It's been a long December, and there's a reason. Yes. Playing a little flute of Volcano. So, yeah, there's nothing. I don't have anything bad to say about the actual spot in Orlando here. Of course not. Obviously, you know, maybe, who knows, as time goes on, if we'll have any negative things to say about Margaritaville
Starting point is 00:15:27 or the food or anything. I don't know. We'll find out tomorrow. We'll find out. But as far as this spot, this is the ideal spot because you could also have a drink wander over there. It doesn't have to be even a Margaritaville-branded drink. It doesn't have to be a Landshark lager.
Starting point is 00:15:40 You could bring anything you want. You could bring a Fat Tuesday over there. You could bring, there's the bar that sells just boring, unbranded drinks, which I know is like, who gives a shit? But you could just bring like a whiskey on the rocks over there. But you want to get, if possible, you want to get something where there's a picture of a sun wearing a lei. Yeah, of course you want that.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I'm just saying this is a versatile spot. Yeah. And I don't think anybody's going to yell at you if you don't have a Buffett Margaritaville brand cocktail. Sure. Not even you? You're chill enough that you don't yell? I would judge it, Jim, silently in my head of like,
Starting point is 00:16:12 well, they brought in sort of unlicensed whiskey, no IP whiskey or whatever, but I guess. That doesn't look like a Bahama Mama. That looks like green alcohol and orange sludge. Right. I'm like kind of like, yeah, like a'm kind of like an older lady in church or something. That's my energy. You gab.
Starting point is 00:16:31 You gab to her. That's what I'm saying. I'll gossip about them later. The Christmas and Easter crowd are here, I see. Jason's rolling his eyes. That's what I would be doing, too. Sure. That's how you feel about Fairweather Buffett fans.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Right. Yes, of course. But I would at least appreciate that they came over here to pay their respects to this sacred area and this sacred plane with possibly an interesting story. I do want to shout out, they do have a partial food menu. Yes, they do.
Starting point is 00:17:03 That's a very good point. And it's on a menu shaped like a surfboard. That's good. Of course it they do. That's a very good point. And it's on a menu shaped like a surfboard. That's good. Of course it's good. That's a lot of fun. Yeah. That's a lot of fun. But yes, I think here, like, I can't imagine what would be, other than maybe like food
Starting point is 00:17:19 that is rancid, other than what you could not like about this. I just feel like this is the most unimpeachable spot in all of city walk there's another one where you're i don't know who you're arguing to this is a common mic occurrence where i mean it's not and there's no you couldn't have a complaint there's nothing you could say i like i like somebody who has a complaint to show me what it is i'm just saying i there's got to be a person listening right now that's like shit talking it and i don't want it i They need to listen to what I'm saying, which is definitive. It's in that lane where
Starting point is 00:17:48 you're like, and Gail Gordon was always funny. Show me a time that he didn't bring it. That he wasn't making you guffaw. And yeah, yeah, maybe it was a little Frank Nelson-ish, okay? But whatever. People share. Artists share from each other. Inspiration comes. Like that stuff. Other people
Starting point is 00:18:04 talk like that too, not just those two. The only thing you would like more than this is if there was a Gail Gordon restaurant. Gail Gordon's Harumphville. Oh, please. Oh, yeah. There could have been a vault or something, the soup vault.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Because Mr. Mooney had a vault at his bank, of course, from the Lucy show. I definitely knew one fact about his character. I saw a clip that I've never seen before from the third Here's Lucy show where Lucy's having a cookout. Jack Benny is there, and he's doing the cookout. This is completely out of context. I don't know what the episode was about.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And then he's like, oh. You're just watching a viral Here's Lucy clip. You know how people get on your Instagram, and you'll get different things targeted to you, and it'll be models for some people, and it'll be models for some people and it'll be sports for some other people. I get just out of context clips of Here's Lucy on Instagram. You have sent me numerous Here's Lucy clips over the years. Here's Lucy is fascinating.
Starting point is 00:18:59 It ran for like seven years. OJ Simpson is on it. There's just so many things going on. And this one is like Jack Benny's on it and I forget there's just so many things going on and this one is like jack benny's on and i forget there's somebody else on it i'm like is that and it is and then he like he calls in a bus driver and then jackie gleason dressed as ralph cramden comes in with like the longest applause ever in the full ralph cramden like bus driver outfit and then like he makes a hamburger but then like takes some of jack Benny's money and puts on it and like does a whole
Starting point is 00:19:26 like hand like thing like he's about to like really dig in and eat it and then that's the end of the show. I think latter day Jackie Gleason performance that nobody talks about. Nobody talks about it. Yeah I sent it to a big Jackie Gleason fan and he had never seen it before.
Starting point is 00:19:43 So yeah this is a little known Gleason. send it to your gleason chat yeah yeah i don't want to steal something from jane but my gleason girlies is what i call it uh um yeah so so does that get confusing in your your message app the gleason girlies next to the gordon girlies it gets very confusing. Because those are two separate factions. People that love Gail Gordon. You switch it to Gail girlies and it's even more confusing. Gail, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:11 It's the multiple Gs. Very confusing. So yeah, anyway, nobody should argue with what I just said in general about Gail Gordon or Lone Palm Airport. Now you're keeping us in suspense, Mike. Does the plane have an interesting story or not? The plane has an interesting story, but we're going to get there. That's the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:20:28 So what I want to start also talking about is that perhaps this interesting story put our hero, Jimmy Buffett, in danger of dying prematurely or whatever. But this is not the only story where Jimmy Buffett had a near-death experience. Uh-huh. Okay? Pilots, for some reason, always seem to have these stories. Celebrity pilots. Harrison Ford, for instance. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Certainly. Friends, right? Because you look up and it's like People Magazine, when Jimmy died, they published a thing called Jimmy Buffett survived at least three near-death experiences before his death at age 76. Wow. Which was not ultimately in a plane crash. No. And it was not that a parrot flew into his mouth,
Starting point is 00:21:12 performed his entire last concert for him. Mm-hmm. That's happened a few times. No, I'm a pro with that. That happened. All right. The parrot's taking this one. Take it.
Starting point is 00:21:24 So I just wanted to do a brief history of some of the incidents. What Buffett, his first brush was 1978. He was on a sailboat in San Salvador at the time. He was anchored in a cove, which, again, this is perfect Buffett stuff. A cigarette boat stopped to use Buffett's radar, and he gave them approval if he could drive their go-fast boat. After partying on a nearby sailboat and sleeping in his boat's dinghy, he reportedly drifted out and woke up surrounded by water. But eventually, the cigarette boat and a mothership loaded with drugs found him, per the mail, and pointed him in the direction of land. So he partied too hard, he wound up like floating alone at sea
Starting point is 00:22:05 in a go fast boat in a go do you know what a go fast boat is because they come into play in the plot of the miami vice michael mann movie they talk about needing go fast boats to get to cuba okay and get back and forth i don't know how fast a go-fast boat goes. It's probably faster than that boat we took around Bay Lake in Florida at Disney World, though. Give me a go-slow boat. Well, in his later years, I think that is what he wanted. Give me a take-it-easy boat. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Give me a barely-moves boat. That boat was basically a rowboat with a go-kart motor in it. So, yeah, I think it goes faster for sure. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, in 94 94 he flipped a plane and then he had to escape the plane and swim to a passing boat as he was taking off lunch which is this is always the thing where i'm thinking about like flying or flying a helicopter or whatever i feel like if i flipped a plane over once i'm probably done flying planes was it it a sea plane? Yeah, it was a sea plane.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Are those easier to flip? That's a very good question. Well, the water is there too. So I bet the extra element of water is definitely making, like if you're just taking off on a runway and it's maybe not even that windy, you don't have water that could potentially be
Starting point is 00:23:22 like an extra element of something that would knock you off. Sure. Do you know the location of any of these incidents uh this was nantucket island okay what about the other one oh i have to go back and look um i just you know i'm gonna it's gonna uh take me a second but it does feel like there's possible rhyming okay you know why didn't you do songs about any of these certainly n Nantucket is a prime word. Oh, yeah. For rhyming.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Well, I was just going to say Nantucket. Water is probably a lot colder, maybe choppier. Well, that's not a good title. Yeah, but what is Nantucket? No, I never said it was. I was just thinking about water and temperatures. I thought you were going to pitch a song title. I wish I had a popsicle so I could suck it, maybe.
Starting point is 00:24:09 That's a little, I don't want that to be suggestive. I don't want to put him, he only does like lightly suggestive songs. Yeah, I know. But is it, then like, how do you, because how do you fit and make it a, it's got to be like, man, tuck it, man, fuck it. Well, that's not, yeah, he would, he he'll does he have a fuck into this like he has a shit waiting for you there i think you break your rules well but you're probably not in the title you can also say shuck it like you're shucking corn nantucket well corn or corn separate thought corn is a good thing to shuck yeah Yeah. If only he lived.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Well, he should have done it. He needed to strike while the iron was hot. He should have written a song in 94. So he said, in 95, he said, I'm still flying, but I have a safer plane now, which he told the Boston Globe. And for a while, he got introspective about it. But you got to get back up, he said.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I called a therapist I'd seen off and on in California to tell him about it and to say I was having flashbacks. But the week before, the therapist had also ditched his plane. Boy, did we have one heck of a therapy session, did he say, which also sounds like a tall tale. We're like, my pilot therapist ditched his plane as well. He also flies? I guess. I mean, I guess who else are you going to talk to if you're Jimmy Buffett
Starting point is 00:25:24 but a pilot therapist? He's got to mean, I guess who else are you going to talk to if you're Jimmy Buffett but a pilot therapist? He's got to understand where I'm going from. I need a like-minded individual. My therapist has got to be a fisherman, a pilot, a shucker, or a bootlegger. Professional conflict. He was going to let me
Starting point is 00:25:40 out to someone else. I said, no, let's just have some pilot talk for a while. I guess i could vibe with a therapist who is made out of coconuts uh honey we're having pilot talk here could you stay out of it um so yeah so he i don't know he just he had a he had a bit of a pirate life you know he he came to came in up against brushes with all sorts of danger wow um but okay i look or let's get to the let's get to the thing i think you're suggesting one was immortalized only one was immortalized and this is of course in 1996 jamaican authorities
Starting point is 00:26:21 reportedly mistook buffett's plane, the Hemisphere Dancer, which is the plane at CityWalk Orlando. That very plane, the one that we sat and had a drink on. Yes, absolutely. At Lone Palm Airport. At Lone Palm Airport. They should call it Lone Airplane Airport. They should do that. You're right.
Starting point is 00:26:44 There is not a second airplane there. No. Yes. So the Jamaican government mistook this plane for some sort of drug smuggling plane, and they shot at it. That is a, oh my God, that is a huge mistake. It's a huge mistake. And of course-
Starting point is 00:27:02 They're not drug smugglers years later when buffett would release the the album banana wind he included on that album a track called jamaica mistake which of course just told the tale not not in such clear detail the tale i think but like kind of give you the gist of the tale it doesn't include include some specifics, I don't think, but it doesn't, but it, you know, it gives you the idea of what happened. You almost got choked up saying that song title, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I did get choked up. I almost feel bad that either of us interrupted because I feel like we should have let you read that like a priest reading the story of the birth of Christ. Yes. And it was then that the jamaican government made quite the mistake so yeah so uh and then in may 1996 the authorities apologized eventually to
Starting point is 00:28:00 jimmy buffett and his passengers um which included Bono from U2 and his whole family, Bono's whole family. Now, I don't think this part of it has been discussed before. Bono we've talked about. I know that, Michael. But the family, you're saying. But the family. Yeah, I don't think I know about the family either. I think we have talked about the Bono part of it.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Okay, I think we have as well. Mrs. Bono and all the mrs bono and the two bono tykes yes and we're there and this is just to be really clear in case any listeners are not aware of the ongoing mythology what happened was you told this story in full during the city walk saga with paul sheer many years ago and it was then that it struck me maybe not a lot of times on the show at that point, because the show hadn't been going for very long at that point, but I realized how many times I have heard this full tale from you over the years.
Starting point is 00:28:55 And now it has grown, and you, the listener, the ongoing listeners, have heard it many a time. Yes. And I just want to, can we break that down for a minute? Of course. What is it about the tale that gives you such joy, that I just want to, can we break that down for a minute? Of course. What is it about the tale that gives you such joy, that makes you want to plow ahead
Starting point is 00:29:09 and tell this no matter how many times it has been told? I think what I like about this whole thing the most is that Jimmy Buffett wrote a song called Jamaica Mistake-a. Well, that clearly is what it builds to. That's my joy. That is the point that is hiding in wake.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Because you have a smile that comes when you know you're about to hit it. Yes. I mean, it's kind of an interesting story, certainly. Famous guys, famous people getting shot at in a plane. And then the plane being near a theme park. That is fun. We like that. I think a person of a certain interest likes that.
Starting point is 00:29:47 But then the cherry on top, you get to say that then Jimmy Buffett wrote a song called Jamaica Mistaka, which is just one of the top song titles of Jimmy Buffett's career, I think. It's one of those that you've really nurtured and is part of as you are introducing people to your buffett fandom yeah that's a big one that lures people in and math sucks is another one that lures people yes it's your way of indicating it's your way of indicating to people uh you know that there's silliness afoot here and maybe you know margaritaville maybe you know cheeseburger in paradise you have no idea how much sillier it gets especially as he keeps making music through the 80s 90s and 2000s that people don't know quite as much well and anytime someone in mike's life makes a mistake he's like well that's a pretty bad mistake but it's not the worst one i've ever heard and then he just rolls into it i can't think of one bigger mistake however um so yeah yeah i i have not told this
Starting point is 00:30:50 story to um a person in a while but now that you're saying it's like you're wetting my whistle to tell it again to a person who has never heard it because it's such it's a fun it's fun to tell it is fun to say um is it fun as the million-dollar story? I think it's more fun, honestly, as far as PTR stories. Well, I think I tried to do a good job of making that story not fun anymore. Yes. Yes, you did a good job. And we'll see if it ever comes back again.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I really weighed it down. Yes, you did. But we'll see. Who knows when that could come back. I said million dollars. I didn't say suitcase. So, yeah. So this is a thing that is now I would be interested to know if I've told it 10 times on the show.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Probably at least. I'm not sure. Well, now it just gets alluded to. And now there's the ongoing thing of the people. Now people, listeners go take pictures there and they wonder aloud if there's ever been a if there is an interesting story involving this plane and this is where we can officially confirm it i guess there's a psychology with me too where i'm like what is it i don't want to take that away from you but i do i think it's clear at this point i have a gene there's something that does just get under my skin when i hear a story told in full that I've heard many times before.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah. I'm not sure what that is about me. I think it comes from my parents. I think this is a childhood annoyance because they have the stories that are, you know, look, they're nowhere near the Jamaica Mastaka story, which is one of the great stories of our time. But there's the stories that are, you know, are repeated nonstop, and there seems to be no awareness that this story has been told. It's told, like, probably once a month. My parents do that, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Mm-hmm. I will be, I, sometimes, though, I'm struck by, like, there's other ones, and I, like, these are the famous ones on the show, but then I think sometimes I think I have told a story three times and it's never registered, and then sometimes there's stories
Starting point is 00:32:44 that I feel like, right, there's certain ones that get flagged. And I don't know if it's just like you were like Logie on the day where I told the story twice and you don't remember it. And then a year later I tell it and it doesn't get flagged. But then there's other ones where I go, oh, I think I maybe have said that once and then that gets flagged. So it's interesting to note what gets flagged and what doesn't. Well, the word Jamaica Mesteka, the phrase Jamaica Mesteka is a giant waving flag. You're's interesting to know what gets flagged and what doesn't. Well, the word Jamaica Mistake, the phrase Jamaica Mistake is a giant waving flag. You're not going to avoid that.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It's massive. Yeah. Well, and it's on all your playlists. Scott's playlist? Yeah, Scott, every time you open Spotify, it's like the first thing recommended. Can I say something about the song Jamaica Mistake? I can't even really ironically listen to it that much.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I don't find it good at all. All right. Thank you for your honesty. I wish I could listen to just the part where you make a big mistake, but honestly, it takes like an hour for him to even finish that. It's really long. It's not. Math sucks.
Starting point is 00:33:42 It's not one of his finest works. Math sucks is like a masterpiece compared to Jamaica Mistake, in my opinion. You know, when we were at one of the CityWalk locations for days now, I've been looking in my Shazam records and my photos, my screenshots. I swear we heard a Jimmy song that none of us ever had heard before. And it's like, got to remember that for the show. And it has just disappeared. That might have been Nantucket Man Fuck It. Yeah, it was Nantucket Man Fuck It.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yeah, it was probably Nantucket Man Fuck It. I knew someone would remember. He did do it. I should give him more credit. He made that song. 2011, Jimmy fell off the stage while performing a concert in Australia, and he blacked out, but he was okay. So he fell.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Australia, my tail. I had too much Hungry Jacks, and it just made me too logy. I forgot. I thought he'd broken his neck, said the doctor. I heard the clunk of his head on a metal ledge. Australia, me whale. It's a promising format i want to try to pick all the stories and run them through that filter and it could be any accident you've like like uh like the diet coke spill like diet coke uh uh uh broke uh folks uh let's see uh spirit spirit broca nothing bro yeah that's okay that's not bad
Starting point is 00:35:10 you could exaggerate the story and say that it shorted out all of our recording equipment yes diet coca mike soca oh that's great yes there you go that's it that's very good so yeah you can do it big and small things in your life and feel free to do that as you listen to this podcast think about the last like oh shit thing that happened and then make a song about it but it's got to have those a's it's got to have those a's at the end of the words that's the that's the little master stroke um so yeah now there's other like you look up jimmy buffett plane stuff and there's just there stuff. Like 2002, singer Buffett flew his biplane into a runway sign at Palm Beach Airport. Sorry, I forgot this before. He flew into a sign, but he was not injured.
Starting point is 00:35:54 So I guess that's not why they're compiling it on that list. He's on a city on that one. I think the place is an important part. West Palm Beach. Oh, yeah. Someone's always hitting that sign. They got a whole warehouse full of them not a big deal west palm beach uh sign breacher yeah uh-huh uh uh so yeah anyway so i think that
Starting point is 00:36:17 i think that wraps up some of the big other things other than the thing we're getting to which is the the hemisphere dancer and the of course famous incident where a plane was shot at by the Jamaican government. Now, I was just going to say, were you going to bring up some of the details of this? Because I think I have gotten some of the details perhaps a bit wrong over the years. Okay, okay. Well, this is good. You're going to do your suitcase story analysis on your own. You're going to volunteer it.
Starting point is 00:36:44 I am, yes. And this is what I want is more transparency on your own. You're going to volunteer it. I am, yes. And this is what I want, is more transparency on the show. And speaking of, just not to sidetrack, but just something from a couple days ago in this very saga. Oh, yes, yes. Mike, I can't believe this, but I asked some listeners on Twitter if they've ever had an experience with McDonald's food making them sick, and despite the hydrolyzation process, this has somehow happened.
Starting point is 00:37:08 How can you hear that McDonald's would never make anyone sick? I said that there was a process by which you would make the food digest easier, not making people sick. I never said no one would ever get sick. It felt definitive to me. I don't think it was definitive. I believe the phrase, you can't get sick, was said. Well, I have to check the tapes definitive. I believe the phrase, you can't get sick, was said. Well, I said it in a funny way.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I have to check the tapes. You can check the tapes, but I don't think... I've made more definitive statements that have been wrong in more aggressive ways on this show than that. My mom did remind me that one time on the way to a Cub Scout camping trip, and I chalked this up to nerves, and it was really cold. I hit a Big Mac on the drive, and when I got there, I was sick. So I don't want to blame the Big Mac.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Jason, how dare you blame the Big Mac on that? You don't know that. I think the cold of a Pennsylvania winter and the nerves, you know. I think your mom is equating it. Share some listeners' sick stories, please. She got wrecked by one of those sausage breakfast burritos one time. Or chicken burritos. They used to have chicken burritos.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Somebody also said, because Jane said she didn't want to have the fries. I heard somebody say that it's vegetable oil now. Yeah, we're going back and forth. We've been discussing. We need more research for the fries scenario. Oh, you're having talks. You're having tentative talks to return to McDonald's. We need to shut everything down until we can figure out what's going on.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Oh, that's true. I don't know. You know, your mom, maybe she's not aware of hydrolyzation is all I'm saying. Because it's, I don't know. I think everyone is misinterpreting. You must have thrown up from being nervous. Surely it couldn't have been. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:38:42 The cold and the nerves. He's saying that. He's saying he doesn't want to blame the big man. That's what I'm saying. Now she got wrecked by those menu items that are now defunct. I see. That's why they got, yeah. We're still standing up for the hydrolyzation problem. Every one of these stories must
Starting point is 00:38:55 be, if they all go back and think about it, they'll realize they were throwing up from fear. They must have been being chased or something because it can't have been the food. They were being chased. Every one of these people, if you go back and think. By a prowler or a burglar can't have been the food. They were being chased. Every one of these people, if you go back and- By a prowler or a burglar. Oh, that's right. There was a bear.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah. Anyway, what I was going to bring up is I think probably another piece of this that fixes it in your mind is the presence of Bono. Because we know you're a Bono fan. You went to the sphere. We talked about McFisto. Bono seems to be a primary pop cultural interest of yours. And I think you take him out of the equation. Is what's fun about that is just the idea of like Bono you kind of think is a little pompous and a little bit up his own ass but oh he's hanging
Starting point is 00:39:54 with Jimmy Buffett in Jamaica like maybe this guy isn't so uptight you know maybe I could party with Bono and we'd have a good time you know know, like that's sort of what you think. Your takeaway from that is then I could be friends with him? Yeah, I usually assess with another extremely rich man. Yeah, I assess a lot of rock stars. I'm like, could I be friends with so-and-so? And it's like, I didn't think so with Bono, but then you hear this story and you go, I think
Starting point is 00:40:18 we could have hung maybe. Mike, you had a birthday recently and it was a fun time. However, it was not a Bono themedthemed party. No, it was not. And no one made an attempt to try to get Bono to make a surprise appearance at your Bono party. No, that's true.
Starting point is 00:40:32 You can do all these thought experiments all you want, but if you aren't starting a social media campaign to see if you can prove it, then what are we doing? Well, it was a rainy Friday night in Los Angeles. It was a little brisk. If Bono was here, I bet he's like firing up the Domino's pizza tracker. You know, he's staying in. He's putting his feet up.
Starting point is 00:40:54 You're apparently not as well versed in the Domino's pizza tracker. No, I just didn't know where that came from. You were saying because it was rainy. He was using that short. Yeah, yeah. Domino's pizza tracker is shorthand for staying inside tonight. Staying in. I should have thought ahead. Yeah, yeah. Domino's Pizza Trucker is shorthand for staying inside tonight. Staying in. I should have thought ahead.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Staying in. As soon as Domino's is said, that means I'm keeping under control. I can't make it out tonight. Firing up a stream and what's in my queue? Let's get my queue down a little, you know? Let's get my queue down a little. Oh, my queues are out of control. Bono's been meaning to watch Bottoms.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Let's check out this sofa they're all talking about. The residency is over. Okay. Of you two, so now we enter a new sphere of times. So now we get two brief stints by jam bands and then what? That's a good question. Well, they're still cleaning up the active crime scenes from the falls. Let's add a little more to this story here.
Starting point is 00:41:46 It's Bono, his wife, Allie, their children, Jordan and Eve and islands, Island record producer, Chris Blackwell, also on the plane.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Oh, that's a major music figure. Yeah. I've heard his name before. So he's, he's on there as well, which I don't think that we've ever talked about him being on the plane. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:03 And yeah, so this was, and let me find exactly. And that's's interesting but it's not a richard kind it's one i doesn't need to have not a richard from the gecko i'll say that right um um so yeah so they're all on there and i guess the thing that over the years that i think maybe i've incorrectly stated or been confused about is that initially when i think i this this told the story I was saying well Jimmy Buffett was not on the plane okay it was his plane but these people were shot at and then you know I'd start to see this story told and it's very much official Buffett lore and then it basically sort of insinuates oh no no
Starting point is 00:42:41 Buffett's on the plane or whatever he's he's flying the plane or whatever and i'm like well that feels weird and i remember even looking through some message boards years ago and people were arguing about this this was for some reason i couldn't find the exact message boards but i did find other message boards on you know buffettnews.com message boards i think there's a buffett world somewhere where people argue. JimmyJangle.net, you know. Yeah, yeah. So people were sort of discussing some of this. Yeah. And I'm like, everything I read basically now just says that Jimmy was on the plane.
Starting point is 00:43:20 That Jimmy, and basically like the official language makes it seem like Jimmy was on the plane and he was flying the plane what does the plaque say at lone palm airport are they definitive about jimmy oh that's a good question i actually didn't think about that i'll try to find that yeah yeah you keep uh you keep going um so i'm looking around and everything and i and now i'm having trouble finding even somebody that says, you know, this isn't the case. That this, like, I'm not even finding an initial source. Were the other passengers on the plane? What do you mean? Am I finding confirmation of that?
Starting point is 00:43:54 Were Bono and family and the record producer, were they on the plane when it was fired upon? Well, yeah, that's what every, that's, everything says that. Everything sort of agrees on that as well. They weren't just waiting to be picked up. Oh, yeah, that's what everything says that. Everything sort of agrees on that as well. They weren't just waiting to be picked up. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think they were taking off is basically what it was, and then they got shot at or whatever. So I'm looking around, I'm looking around,
Starting point is 00:44:13 and then I search just anything, like Buffett not on plane, not on Hemisphere Dancer, and it takes me to Facebook, to Buffett News Facebook group. And somebody posted last year, I forget, who was with Jimmy in the plane going to get chicken in Jamaica and got shot at? I keep thinking it was a country singer. And so this woman responds named Sandy Leslie. And she says it's Bono's kids, blah, blah, blah, blah. Sandy, I like the sound of this girl and then Sandy
Starting point is 00:44:46 so she explains who it was Chris Blackwell Island Records producer and then she says but also my brother Randy Leslie Jimmy's pilot from 1991 to 2006 they were filming the best 20 bars in the Caribbean
Starting point is 00:45:02 the seas were too rough that day to film. Jimmy told, and some of this is a little poorly written, but Jimmy told. Best 20 bars in the Caribbean. Good question. Jimmy told my brother to drop them off and to get chicken wings, and he had to fly the seaplane, the Hemisphere Dancer, to Montego Bay to fuel up the plane. Randy had let them off the plane and was taking off about 100,
Starting point is 00:45:23 when 100 Jamaican police officers came out of the bushes and started shooting guns at the plane they thought they were drug winners so basically the same story at that point so i went well who is randy leslie he is not in any of these paragraphs that i've been finding explaining these incidents we have a new randy to talk about randy leslie j Buffett's pilot, who is now, I believe, deceased as of 2008. But it seems really like Randy Leslie was flying the Hemisphere Dancer, not Jimmy. But now sort of there's been a, like, not that they're like, I don't know. He seems to be erased from Buffett world. And this is why I start to think maybe this isn't the best tribute.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Because now I have even more questions coming out of this. Because he was let go by Jimmy a couple of years before he died. And people are not sure why. Huh. Randy Leslie. But if you look up Randy Leslie, you can find that he was on the Hemisphere Dancer when this incident took place. So now we have an even more missed. Now we know, I think, definitively what the situation was, that Jimmy was on the plane, but he was not flying the plane.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Wow. Randy Leslie was. What takes him out of the fold? Did he propose to Jimmy? They were discussing the time, and he said that there are times where it is not five o'clock somewhere. It's possible. Heresy. Get out of my face. He said he didn't like you're dead to me. He didn't like shrimp or something. What? What the hell?
Starting point is 00:47:00 So. So, yeah. So. So when you go through some of this, the people are like, what happened to Randy Leslie, Jimmy Buffett's pilot? Now, this is also stuff I've heard from people where they're like, Jimmy Buffett actually kind of stopped drinking 20 years ago, but they throw a margarita in his hand for photo ops and stuff to make it seem like the party is still going in that way. Not that he doesn't have fun. This is like the theory that Stevie Wonder is not blind. Right. I am shocked and appalled. And I don't have any...
Starting point is 00:47:30 And he's so uptight that he would fire people? Who was this man? I don't have any confirmation that that's true. And there would be still like Instagram where he's got like a glass of wine and maybe he still drank wine, I don't know. But there's all these like sort of like conspiracy theories stuff about Buffett that he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Does he believe that all of us in this crazy world are fruitcakes or not? Well, I think he believes that. I don't want to believe that. Let me real quick. I'll just read a quote from Bono about the incident. He said, these boys, I assume he means the Jamaican government. These boys were shooting all over the place. I felt as if we were in the middle of a James Bond movie, only this was real. It was absolutely terrifying and I honestly thought
Starting point is 00:48:08 we were going to die. So, sounds scary. Something about this story also that we've never picked apart is like, what's going on with this Jamaican government? Were they just like,
Starting point is 00:48:18 is that it? Yeah, pretty sure. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Well, yeah, that is also, and I couldn't find anyone sort of debunking the series of events where you're like, yeah, why did they just start shooting at the, like. If it's taking off, it'll eventually get into airspace, which probably wouldn't be their problem. Yeah, and then it's like, there were only a few bullet holes in the plane, which you can still see.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I was going to say, can you see them at the Lone Palm Airborne? I believe you can. Okay. I was going to say, can you see them at the Lone Palm Airborne? I believe you can. Okay. But I think they've been like, because he still flew the plane, so I think they fixed up the plane. It was decommissioned in 2003, so I don't think they were leaving a bunch of holes in it while he was still flying it. Has there ever been a situation, have any of these people then ended up, any of these Jamaican government people ended up on vacation at CityWalk and they go oh my god there it is the plane
Starting point is 00:49:10 and then they take out their personal rifle and start firing it I knew it it's out of habit yeah it's gonna smuggle some drugs out of CityWalk Orlando yeah or do they pose with the plane like oops I'm sorry you gotta own to own your mistake-as.
Starting point is 00:49:26 What can I say? There's got to be somebody who is involved with that that sees the plane and is like, oh, wow. Was that the, is that? Maybe it's a different plane I shot at. Yeah, I mean, that's, I was going to say, because these people might, the going policy in Jamaicaamaica might be if you
Starting point is 00:49:46 don't exactly know where the plane came from just start firing at it this is just like this is a regular just this this is a regular you know afternoon for them 50 50 it's a sea plane it's 50 50 chance uh better just just be safe just start firing firing. Yeah. I will say, though, that luckily, like, so the whole thing with the story is then the Jamaican government, like, says, like, they apologize formally. I think there's a newspaper headline. They're apologizing to Bono and Jimmy Buffett. And everything, as far as their relationship with the Jamaican government went, Jimmy Buffett has restaurants in Jamaica now. Don't worry. That's how good the relationship is at this point.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Would you accept the phrase, I landa make amenda? Is that a good term for the apology part of the story? I think so. I accept your regret or something. Is that good? Yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah. So, yeah. So, so yeah. So, so this place now, so this is a, I'm trying to think of this like a more famous story of Jimmy Buffett's either like, or a different, even let's think about like an analogous for a different rock star. defining story with and then having a piece of memorabilia or an artifact from that story sitting at city walk obviously you know hard rock which you know has stuff like that but this plane this has got to be the most the biggest like jimmy buffett is mr tall tales he likes spinning a web or whatever but this did happen and it's the biggest artifact it's the biggest thing you could ever just plant somewhere the biggest story he has yeah that my thought is if you went to chuck berry's restaurant and he had the toilets that he installed the cameras over
Starting point is 00:51:38 these are my special toilet friends so yeah I'm bouncing all over here but let me go here so Randy Leslie real quick Jimmy Buffett's pilot there's just some mysterious stories they retired him there's a story here about Randy being retired which of course when they say that it means
Starting point is 00:52:02 sounds like they're killing him sounds like they're drowning him with cement shoes um but randy said to me uh and i don't know i forget that whoever is writing this uh they're retiring me he didn't seem to know why oh a contract pilot john norcus said this of course another character is entered uh who also worked for buffett he was disappointed that jimmy didn't talk to him about it. It was handled by an underling. So Jimmy had like one of his worker guys fire Randy here. Palm Beecher Jimmy Buffett is accused by several friends of his longtime pilot and party accomplice Randy Leslie of turning a blind eye to Leslie's ouster
Starting point is 00:52:41 after 15 years. So Leslie entered Margarita velour when the buffett seaplane he was piloting was fired on by jamaican police who mistook leslie and his boss for drug runners so this place on buffettworld.com does when you dig in and you have to look for article on buffett's former pilot does indicate that randy was on this plane and Jimmy's former party accomplice, which is very interesting, too. Yeah. That's an interesting, I don't know, that specific phrasing. What a phrase.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Yeah. It just implies that you're getting away with something. Yes. It is no mere, you know, these aren't just people sitting around having a chat. Right. Because you were partying like you've never partied. You guys have secrets. You guys share some bad secrets.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Maybe that's what had to happen. I had to retire you, buddy. Hey, give him a gold watch. Kick him on the butt. Say goodbye. You have 30 years. Keep your mouth shut. I think Jimmy, when this gentleman passed away, Jimmy took care of the family.
Starting point is 00:53:44 He did the nice, good stuff for the kids and stuff. So he still eventually, but it felt like this, like his old party buddy got booted by like a middle level manager of Margaritaville. And by doing good stuff for the kids, you mean he bred a talking shrimp wearing sunglasses for each of them to own yeah yeah for sure from his lab from the buffett labs which still is not public but you know we know about it yeah yeah um so yeah i i think that like when we're talking about i do think there should be like more of this story sort of told at the orlando city walk i kind of think they need to force it a little bit more on you i don't want it to ruin the vibe that you're learning a history lesson but i don't know if it's is it animatronics oh sure is it by the plane well they're right by i
Starting point is 00:54:38 feel like there's bushes there and it's across that walkway and if it's so often it's like that show at the the mall in vegas the whatever, the Fall of Rome thing. If some animatronics pop out and like, hey, what is that playing? Drug runners, get them. Bang, bang, bang. Whoa, what's happening? Seems like a mistake in progress.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yeah, I mean, I'm, for anything, anything like that is fine. I would just like a little box where you hit the button and it goes, in jimmy buffett and bono and his family were all like you can even give me that like low five version of it i just think that the people there the oh i guess i said there's no criticism but i guess the only criticism is just that i don't think people are chilling out there knowing what they're basking in the glow of yeah yeah it's like you would want to know that i think you would want to know you're in a part of american rock and roll music history
Starting point is 00:55:31 so that so your complaint is there is a plaque and the plaque does not go far enough yeah it doesn't fully illustrate it like two or three plaques. Okay, that's better. I agree, that's better. Mirrored. Mirrored. So sun hits them, shines a light, draws your eye to it, burns your eyes while you look at it. I mean, I was gonna say one of the plaques could just be explaining how seaplanes work.
Starting point is 00:55:59 And then a plaque about how Jimmy came to buy this one and what he liked about it. And then the third plaque is about the incident. Go on. Just a little more background, you know. About the general notion of seaplanes
Starting point is 00:56:16 and what their mechanics are. And its relationship to them, yeah. It's an HU-16C Albatross. Grumman, is that the name of the plane? Grumman? Grumman? Grumman? Northrop?
Starting point is 00:56:29 Grumman. They do the movie theater. They do the Chinese theater and they do seaplanes. Seaplanes, yeah. Yeah. I can give you the, it was manufactured in 1955. Okay. So it's like an old plane too.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Wow. I wouldn't think that an old plane like that you'd want to keep flying it into the 1990s. So he was asking for trouble anyway. Yeah, would you? Well, I mean, only like Leno and some of the other people that drive old cars around Burbank are doing stuff like that. I guess they're souping them up. They're fixing them and making sure they run. But still, that's old technology.
Starting point is 00:57:00 So Jimmy Buffett's Seaplane Garage is a show that really should have happened. It was sitting there and he left money on the table. Yes, I agree. This was a Navy ship as well. Okay. This was decommissioned. And so I guess at one point it was probably top of the line. They dropped nukes out of it, right?
Starting point is 00:57:18 Yeah. Oh, yeah. This flew over Japan. That's the part they leave out. They do leave that out. Yeah, I bought it. It was a little just factoid on the sales sheet. Dropped Fat Man and Little Boy.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah, he doesn't, he didn't have a song about that either. I also, just as far as current events are concerned, Boeing has had its about sixth problem with a plane in the last two weeks. Yeah, yeah. A lot of stuff happening. And this strange, mysterious death of the whistleblower. I mean, who knows what happened there?
Starting point is 00:57:57 There's really, it's impossible to figure out what happened accidentally to this whistleblower. In case you don't know what we're talking about, there was a guy who was whistleblowing who used to work at boeing who has testified a little bit against them and said like they've well they had there was a merger and because of all this they've cut costs and planes are falling apart and there's about literally six incidents in two weeks or something where like shit is falling off of planes and and planes are just dropping from altitudes aggressively. And then this guy was set to testify against them, and then he's dead. He died mysteriously.
Starting point is 00:58:32 So mysterious. All of a sudden. It's really mysterious. Can we think of, you talk, and then, or you spill? We kill. Yeah, okay. There you go.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Well, he was going to talk about the not very publicly known story, Bowinga, no winga. Wings fell off. Wings fell off of it. None of the stories are as fun as this one. Bono has not been in any of the Boeing planes. I don't know about his family, but they would have said Bono was on one of the planes. This is why, yeah. So you're not going to be telling these stories.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Right. It's not, okay, I guess we can eliminate that. Mike, you don't just like telling stories of aerial mishaps. You aren't gleefully at parties telling stories about the Alaskan airplane where the door fell off. No, no, I don't tell that story. I tell that story a lot, but I don't have a joy. There's no smile on my face. Yeah, they found an iPhone like miles away.
Starting point is 00:59:35 It survived. Oh, is that true? That is true. Yeah, they did find a guy's iPhone. So somebody's phone got sucked out. On the side of the road. Oh, wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:43 And then he got returned? I think they returned it to him. I would hope. But that's interesting. Because that actually speaks to the durability of the iPhone. At least, I think it was in a case. So maybe the case did the lifting. The case breaks the fall, even from thousands of feet in the air.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Wow. Get yourself a case, folks. We need to find out what case that is. Wow. Alaska door bl air. Wow. Get yourself a case, folks. We need to find out what case that is. Wow. Alaska door blaster. Anyway. Trying to pick up speed on these. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Yes, please. Play at home, listeners. And yeah, that testimony will be whistleblower, no show up. Not showing up. Got some of his testimony out. Didn't get it all out. Epstein, suicide, not alive.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I don't know. That's not good. So, yeah. So, this also, this story, I think, is Buffett's book, A Pirate Looks at 50. He writes about this story. Story, I think, is Buffett's book, A Pirate Looks at 50. He writes about this story. And then that kind of seems like people say that's when all of a sudden now it's on clothing. It's on merchandise.
Starting point is 01:00:54 It's on the men. That's sort of when it becomes a big part of sort of the Buffett lore. When the phrase Jamaica Mastaka leaves, or the story, or are you saying the seaplane? Well, yeah, just the iconography of the seaplane itself, because we, of course, this story, I've told this before, but this might only be the first or the second time, excuse me, when we were at the Margaritaville Resort or the living Margarita Village in Orlando, and there was a gift shop in the part of the hotel area. Oh, yes. You remember this.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I know. That's all right. Jason, you remember, you recall this? That there was a shirt. hotel area. Oh, yes. You remember this. Jason, you remember, you recall? That there was a shirt? There was a shirt, yes. And then there was a woman who worked there, though, who immediately, once I seemed to know anything, she was very excited.
Starting point is 01:01:37 And she actually did seem to be steeped in the knowledge of it. But we don't have to finish. We don't have to tell this. Margarita Rapida. Yeah, that's very good yeah um so yeah so i think that's that's sort of yeah he puts that out there and then he tells he tells a version and of the story and and now it is just as iconic as the eddie van halen guitar that used to be immortalized in a giant way at the hard rock up here or something it's the sea plane that's his
Starting point is 01:02:05 sea plane and because of the story and because and it's just you can't escape it now and i think when the ai takes over and whoever's running his his like estate in the next 50 years i think it's only going to grow it's going to be little toys of him in the plane and like you'll see like you'll see this everywhere is what i'm saying they're now going to start making little toys of the plane well i think they'll i just they'll continue to make merchandise of it is what i guess really all i'm saying is that this is a big part of it and i'm i'm part of this unpaid pr campaign to get the plane out there more somehow well you certainly popularized it within people who listen to this show yeah i sure i think a lot of people passed
Starting point is 01:02:43 by that plane and didn't know a thing about it and now this is one of those things that we've talked about this before but this for sure is one of the there's so many people listening who have forced people to hear that story who were maybe interested who are maybe not interested but you have you this is a disease that you have spread very clearly. Maybe dragged to that outside bar to see it. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yes, and now with this episode, I think it's a nice, tidy, it's not tidy, but it's a nice explanation of some of the details
Starting point is 01:03:18 that may have been lost in my telling of the story over the years. And I want you to drag that loved one back out there and say, did you know that Randy Leslie was flying this plane? You can add now details to the story. And I think that's a gift that you're welcome to the listener. It's like you think the story can't get crazier
Starting point is 01:03:36 and then you learn that Randy Leslie is part of it? Yep. Then you learn that Randy Leslie is part of it. This whole thing has flipped the story just like a seaplane flipping. That's right. Well, and if we're talking about the Universal Orlando Resort, I want to know now, does the second seaplane,
Starting point is 01:03:54 the seaplane parked by the Royal Pacific Hotel, does that have a story? Is that just a prop? Is it not actually a plane? Oh, interesting. Well, it's not Jimmy Buffett relatedet related Oh you don't know about that Joe Walsh was flying it James Dolan was on the plane
Starting point is 01:04:13 With Joe Walsh Bob Geldof Bob Geldof was there And Turks and Geikos fired a canyon at it A cannon Like a pirate ship cannon Yeah they stowed some vintage cannons Turks and Geikos fired a canyon at it. A cannon like a pirate ship cannon? Yeah, they stowed some vintage cannons. Turks and Geikos, so big, yikes-os.
Starting point is 01:04:34 So anyway, I don't know. That's really, that's it as far as that. And I don't, yeah, this, honestly, this doesn't feel like the tribute to Buffett that it should be. So I'm going to have to kick that down the road. Still be. So I'm going to have to kick that down the road. Still more? More. I'm just going to have to kick that down the road. Well, he lived a crazy life.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Like when Jimmy playing, kicking the can. What do you want to be in the episode that we haven't covered by now? I think we haven't finished the books. Well, the problem was, yeah, well, the books, that's a whole situation with the books. Tully Mars. Tully Mars.ully mars uh yeah we said yeah yeah uh i think that we haven't dug into the catalog of music completely obviously and i think that we have what what there's a lot of scott agreed for a half second no it's just
Starting point is 01:05:20 because i was uh he was busy typing i well you know i was well i was trying to no i'm not saying you were distracted i would know i was distracted i was busy figuring out tully marza scott gets in his car um we have one mike what haven't we what is left that i understand the books maybe the books sure the book oh thank you scott agrees with the books yeah escape from a scrape to margaritaville we've yet to do a full episode on um and there's still the man made a lot of music in his life there's this big tribute concert coming soon oh yeah what's your deal with that because that went on sale recently it did it's just like it was when i got into the queue to buy tickets it said your number 18 351 oh my god it gave you a number it gave me a number and i was like yeah and i did the math on how long that would take and it was not fast so i think everything's mostly resale right now but you know it's now for any listeners who might not know about the big
Starting point is 01:06:18 tribute concert what's happening is the hollywood bowl hollywood pit bull paul Paul McCartney? Hollywood Bowl, Pit Bowl, Paul McCartney. Oh, this is Mike's dream. The Eagles. Oh, my God. The Eagles. The Coral Reefer Band, of course. I think Sheryl Crow is there. Does it have the word tribute in it? Then, yes, Sheryl Crow is there.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Sheryl Crow will be there. And I forget. There's other people, too. But McCartney's ex-Pit Bowl is really what I... I'm not that they're going to perform together, but it's still the idea of them on the same show with the Hollywood Bowl. Oh, you're the ex, like a collaboration?
Starting point is 01:06:48 Yeah, that's what I meant. It almost sounded like you said Paul McCartney's ex-Pitbull, and I was like, what did I miss? That would be... I have not been reading People magazine. That would be an interesting story, too, like this plane story, if they were... Yeah, but no, that's not the case.
Starting point is 01:07:01 It doesn't say Pitbull and John Travolta yet. I don't know that he's not there, but it doesn't say pitbull and john travolta yeah i don't know that he's not there but just it doesn't say it is all i'm saying but yes this collection of of artists paying tribute to buffet at the holly bowl it seems like a great night we had you just so you you brought it up before we started recording and i said oh and you said well the ticket line was too long and i think it sold out immediately and i was like oh well sorry you can't go and you said no just means i gotta work harder well that's true yeah what here this is the end of this episode is not the time for me to get into this long explanation but whatever it is the ticket everything buying tickets sucks so bad now everything is dynamic pricing everything is an algorithm designed designed to make everybody
Starting point is 01:07:42 spend the most money possible from fast food from Wendy's to other different fast food that are like changes the price depending on the time of day. That said unrelatedly do you want to remind people we do have a $5 and $8 tier on the Patreon a lot of great bonus content on there. And it's not dynamic pricing.
Starting point is 01:08:00 No. We could have done that. Wendy's has disowned the dynamic pricing. Yeah they just didn't like getting- Supposedly. But other fast food places apparently have already done it and did it quietly. So I think Wendy's was like, oh no, we weren't doing that or whatever. I mean, the apps make it so kooky. Yes, mysterious, right.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Tangenta Scott Spenta. But tickets, it sucks to Scott Spenta. But tickets are... It sucks to buy tickets now because of this. But what I'll say is that as the concert approaches, you got to check and they put like face value tickets back in as the concert approaches. As stages are assembled, as comps are given out, that's the time when Michael strikes
Starting point is 01:08:43 as the eve of concert uh concert day i see so michael uh check uh this is work i could that's the first one i didn't like i'm sorry everything else was good yeah i know it's been yeah yeah. So anyway, so yeah, I'm not saying, don't count me out for partying with Pitbull and Paul to celebrate Jimmy's life. And Bono, who you will become great friends with because he knew Jimmy. I'm not saying we could.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I'm not saying we will. I'm saying we could if the scenario is correct because it just indicates that he's a chiller guy than I think. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Do you consider yourself a chill guy? I would say that if you don't- I got a good laugh out of Jason on that.
Starting point is 01:09:32 I would say- Thanks, brother. Well, I- I would say- I don't mean to throw my gun at you. I'm going to yell Jason like that last CityWalk episode where he laughed. I would say that I am half chill. You can be.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I would say I'm half chill. We had plenty of chill moments during this. I'm just saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think I'm deceptively neurotic. I think that anxiety and neuroses, I think it's deceptive because there's plenty of times
Starting point is 01:10:05 when I'm very, very even keel and calm. But what lies beneath? That's the question. And then what comes up from the surface sometimes. Yeah. So it's half. And what lies awake for hours at night reading about microplastics
Starting point is 01:10:20 and new strains of COVID and 100 toy deals you need to get into. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's feeding something. It's feeding some beast. It's a beast-a. The beast-a feast-a. Big feast-a.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Beast-a big feast-a. Big feast-a. Anxiety feast-a. Yeah, so no, I would be on my best chill behavior with Bono. I'm not giving him the anxiety talk. He'd come up and you'd say, I'm cool. I'm chill. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Yeah, yeah. I would let him know. That's the only way you let somebody know if you're cool and chill. And I'm young and with it, and I listen to music that isn't by you. Yeah, yeah. That's not to say, I love your music, but I'm just letting you know I also like young people's music. One of the things that makes me chill. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Yeah, so that would go down fine. It would be fine. I'm just letting you know I also like young people's music. One of the things that makes me chill. Yeah, so that would go down fine. It would be fine. So anyway, this is just to be continued is really all I'm trying to say. Here's what I want to say. To be continued in the short term and to be continued in the long term. That's all I'm going to say. So the battle continues. Well, in the long term. That's all I'm going to say. Oh, the battle continues. Well, in the short term.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. In the short term, oh my God, the Sector Stone. There it is. Is appearing. Wow. It is, I mean, I feel like Mike has to see the Sector Stone. Yeah. It being a big area of Mike's interest.
Starting point is 01:11:42 It's a bronze tear of Randy Leslie, Jimmy Buffett's former pilot and party accomplice. A bronze what? His tear, a tear from his eye. They took the actual tear from his eye and they bronzed it, and now it's just a teardrop, and that's what our sector stone is for this. Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Immortalizing sadness for being quietly replaced in the buffett organization so that's just what it is i wish it wasn't but that's randy moans randy moans all right great well that did it you survived podcast the ride the city walker orlando saga multiverse of madness full analysis Dancer Edition. But before we wrap up, we need to check in with the Sector Keeper and figure out what we're doing tomorrow. Let's see if we can summon him. Hello?
Starting point is 01:12:33 Boys, boys. Hey, all right. Good to see you. Well, this phase, the age of Buffett, is proceeding pretty nicely. That's right. And I think I have some idea of where we might be going. So I guess tomorrow we'll maybe go review the restaurant
Starting point is 01:12:48 and that'll be that, right? You mean restaurants. Oh, because it's one of those. There's two of them. There's multiple Alpha and Omega. That's right. We're hanging loose in the age of Buffett, baby. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Taking our time. Five o'clock somewhere. All right. Well, what is this? All right. So what happens tomorrow? In two places, because the Hemisphere Dancer is a cosmic nook, boys. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 01:13:13 So you told us about those. That's right. Just as it took Bono on an unforgettable adventure, it too can take you to a special dual jump point. Whoa. What? Wait, a jump point to two places at once? That's possible?
Starting point is 01:13:27 That's right, boys. Climb inside the hemisphere, Dancer, for your crucial double mission. Tomorrow, you must review both Margaritaville Alpha and Margaritaville Omega. Okay, so the Orlando one and the Hollywood. Okay, well, we're reversing that. We've now done that.
Starting point is 01:13:43 We did that with NBC Sports. Okay, so tomorrow's episode will be... Tomorrow's episodes. What's that now. Well, we're reversing that. We've now done that. We did that with NBC sports. Okay. So tomorrow's episode will be episodes. What's that now? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Separate episodes. Alpha and Omega are separate episodes. Oh, that's right. Okay. And then one will come out one day and then the next one will come out the next day. Right. Same day.
Starting point is 01:14:01 That's we're living in the age of age of Buffett. The real thing buffet that's right when he says it's five o'clock somewhere he means it's five o'clock in two episodes oh my god okay so tomorrow or whenever at midnight when they come out we have to have two separate episodes one about margarita phil orlando and the other about they we can't combine these that's right heavy is the parrot head hat that wears the crown or head that wears the crown whatever we'll figure out whatever it is we'll figure it out tomorrow okay well you know what that's all right because there's so many you know like fun menu options at this place we'll have time to talk about all of them
Starting point is 01:14:45 try everything on the menu if anything we have to be consistent we know that at this point same meal no alterations so we have to order the same meal on each coast and review it in separate episodes yes we have to order the exact
Starting point is 01:15:01 same meal an entire nation apart. You're learning, boys. You're learning. We're learning that whatever is the most complicated version is what we'll always do. Okay. So tomorrow, sorry. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:21 So tomorrow, listeners, refresh your feed for two episodes. Oh, yeah. And I'm also seeing on the dossier you've just given us that one of the episodes will be on the Patreon behind the paywall. Yes. Alright, well if you were having trouble keeping up already, good luck now. Heck yeah, good luck boys.
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