Podcast: The Ride - The CityWalk Orlando Saga: Malltiverse of Madness 6 - 3 with Van Robichaux

Episode Date: March 24, 2024

Most restaurants promise serviceable food, a good vibe and a place to make memories. But few tout themselves as a tribute to the concept of freedom itself. Van Robichaux breaks it all down and lends his expertise to this daily episode of Podcast the Ride (which according to some non-listening partners, is a tribute to the concept of boredom itself.) Phase 6, Sector 3 contains:   Bob Marley: A Tribute To Freedom Pat O’Briens Citywalk’s Rising Star To level up your Saga experience with bonus and ad-free episodes, subscribe to Podcast: The Ride’s Club 3 at  patreon.com/podcasttheride.  FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

FOREVER! DOG! When your town has made you frown When your square has made you swear When life gives you one more punch You need a donut soaked in Captain Grunge You need a place, a place to stroll

with alcohol. A place that features part of the Berlin Wall. Where steampunk robots sell chocolate snacks. A place where you can tattoo your lower back. So let's go take a walk.

Let's all go to City Walk Orlando. Tonight. Tonight. Podcast to Ride presents the City Walk Orlando saga. Multiverse of madness. A daily, extremely necessary series exploring the shops, restaurants,

and cosmic wonder that make up Universal CityWalk Orlando. Welcome to Podcast the Ride, the CityWalk Orlando Saga Multiverse of Madness. I'm Scott Gairdner. There's Mike Carlson. Yo, yo. There's Jason Sheridan. Hi. I'm kind of whipping through these intros because, first of all, we're deep into it. We just got we just gotta you know put a pace on this but also i want to get as quickly as possible to our special guest today returning to the show after not too long uh collaborator with previous saga guest evan susser on villain con minion blast at universal studios florida it's van roba show hello hey it's really great to be here hey man hi van just

another normal appearance by me on a podcast. Nothing peculiar going on at all that the audience can't see. No, yes. You're just hearing things like normal, and it's not as if there is an item in the room that is pulling all the focus in the world. Would you

care to, or would you rather not acknowledge it? Would you rather, like, is this your part of making this day-to-day? Why does it have to be the center of attention? I agree. So just for those who aren't here, I am wearing an Apple Vision Pro headset. It's my first podcast in one. Oh, wow.

So really great thing. Try it out on us. Yeah, you're welcome. You're welcome. It's an experimental series, so I think a good time to do an experimental move. And yeah, I, I feel, I feel a little strange in it. Okay. As a warmup for it with my good friend, Evan Susser earlier today, I did an hour and a

half zoom call and writing session with him while in the headset. So I'm kind of used to talking to people in it right now, which I was worried I wouldn't be. And so I forced Evan to deal with me wearing it like an idiot. To help us in a way. Yeah, no, it's all for the content, baby. That's good. Well, you know, Susser, I think, needs to do more to help us. Yeah, for sure he does. Give an aloe, everything's gone.

Yeah, you know what? That being said, Susser picked up, we were watching wrestling, and Susser picked up food for my family the other day that he wasn't even part of. Wow. So he helped my family out. He doesn't need to help more. Well, all right, so that covers you. Yeah.

But what happens to Jason? No, fair enough. You guys didn't get helped. Oh, he can pick me up food whenever he wants. Okay. That's fine. He can even pick you up. Sure.

He probably can. But so now we're talking to you. I feel like a lot of the podcast guest connection does need to come from you know looking somebody in the eye and uh you know sharing moments and points and well thank goodness for the persona feature so that you can see a a simulacrum of my eyes in front of my face yeah is and that's what it is it's not because what i'm seeing is sometimes i'm seeing eyes that are blinking and then i'm also seeing like a throbbing yeah i saw that white light uh well i think the throbbing white light might be because i'm recording you guys oh that's the

equipment all right that's like the red flashing button on the camera this is a way to let people know you aren't just like discreetly recording and then um what you're seeing is a simulation of my eyes the blinks are accurate to my actual blinking um they're synced up yes Yes, yes. So none of these are manufactured blinks? No, these are all genuine blinks. They're genuine eye movements. Oh my God. That's all. They're a recreation of the actual physical movement.

Yes, that's correct. The headset itself is largely controlled by eye movement, and so there are cameras pointed at both of my eyes, carefully tracking the location of my pupils, and it uses that information to recreate my face on the front of the screen can you can you add any like cosmetic adjustments to it with the visuals well you know there doesn't seem to be any kind of enforcement of the face you scan when you first set it up being your own so i think we're gonna find a whole new uh uh new uh way to uh is it manatee teo people was

that his name man man titio the yeah uh the catfished uh football playing gentleman right because i could scan someone else and then do facetime calls as them with this persona and it would sync up to my eyes and mouth, but it wouldn't be me. When I first got the headset last week, I hadn't shaved in like a week and I was looking kind of ragged and I scanned myself for the persona

and I was like, whoa, I gotta go shave because I look like a mess in here. And so my other prediction based on this is the way people now are like i gotta get in shape for my beach body for the summer people are going to start to want getting in shape before their scan for their consumer device that shows the simulacrum of them they'll be locked into that yeah that is how people will see them and you't, there must be some program, though, where you can, like, shave or shave off weight. All it will allow me to do currently now, granted Apple says the persona feature is in beta, it will allow me to put virtual eyeglasses on myself.

However, it does not let me make any kind of modifications to the scan. It's just what you get when you scan it. You can kind of, like, make a little slider, like if you look too red, to kind of like pull that down, things like that to adjust for the lighting in the room. Okay. But you can't like cosmetically alter yourself. And those are like functional glasses. They aren't like in a previous sector,

Ian Riccoboni talked about his kids getting like glowing glasses. Was that at From Bubba Gump or somewhere else? No fun versions of the optional glasses that I could see. They all seem largely functional. I don't mean to be like finding holes. We're wearing and demonstrating incredible technology, and here I am going, yeah, that should be more fun. I'm happy to take credit for it as well.

Oh, sure. Is there a podcast app on that? Yes, there is. There is? Yes, I could pull up past episodes and review them while we're talking. This could be good because we have a lot of these moments of misremembering something that had been said or feeling like a story is retold that's been told before. This could be very helpful to us to be able, not that we couldn't do it on our regular computers,

but this seems more efficient maybe to inst insta pull up a previous episode joking aside about it i actually do think um it has actual useful potential in the world of like um uh editing content and things like that because i can pull up um like monitors and stuff and watch videos from multiple sources and things in different like virtual screens all over basically like it's like a camera truck on my face if i need it to be um which haven't we all dreamed of a camera truck on our faces we can all film super bowls whenever we want video village in your sunglasses that's right all right and you are you're filming this right now. Is it possible for you to release your point of view of me right now in some form for listeners to see?

Yes. Not only will I release it, I will be releasing it in full immersive video. Whoa, really? With 3D television or any 3D capable device, even a God forbid a MetaQuest 3, 2 or Pro will be able to watch the first 10

minutes of this podcast in an immersive, fully dimensional Vans POV way. Did the MetaQuest, did they ever get legs working? They said legs were coming. You know, I believe an unreleased beta does finally have full torsos and motion captured arms. Before they were estimating elbow positions and shoulder positions. So they've made it all the way down to the hips,

but they're still not below. It's tough because, so the Apple Vision Pro here has lots of cameras and sensors on the front, but there are downward pointing cameras right here, which is how it's able to do stuff with my hands when my hands are down here. And also, I think it gets some of the lip movement stuff for my persona from that.

And there are no downward facing cameras on any of the MetaQuest products. And so they, legs has to be entirely like estimated based on what the rest of your body is doing. And so it's a hard problem that they haven't been able to solve. They've got all their engineers on legs, though. It does seem like somewhere in the full weight of the former Facebook company. It's like between all that, they should be able to figure out legs. They've put in $20 billion into R&D on their devices, and I've got to imagine they've put at least $2 billion into legs.

Wow. And so, you know, money can't buy legs, as they say. Maybe prosthetics. It's got me thinking about it. I mean, I think Zuckerberg either said it or tweeted it, like, legs are on the way. Yes, there was a tweet that legs were coming, but we've yet to see them.

They did get in some trouble a few years back where they showed legs in a presentation and it came out that those were simulated legs. Those were post-effect legs that were not actual live legs. I gotta say, I'm a little concerned about where all this is going because this whole series is about you know going and visiting a place and getting down and dirty in a place and doing everything at the place right and you know it's all about physical

experiences and if we're able in the future to just scan our city walks, then, you know, sure, it's great that we can all go to one virtually any time. But then what happens to the real one? Then people aren't spending money at the real one. I look forward to a world of augmented city walks. Okay. Yeah. That's a better vision. Yes. You know, for example, we touched briefly on some of the restrictions that occur between Universal and Disney with respect to the Marvel properties and how you won't see the word Marvel anywhere in Disney World.

Perhaps, since their contract didn't anticipate this, could I see the word Marvel augmented on top of things at Disney World through my Vision Pro? Perhaps I could. Wow. I think that that's not conceived of by that contract, and I think the next thing you know, you could be at downtown Disney, and you could see a big Marvel sign saying, Marvel merchandise in here, because you can't see that now.

Wow. Yeah, it's an entire universe on top of our universe. That's right. saying Marvel merchandise in here because you can't see that now. Right. Wow. Yeah, it's an entire universe on top of our universe. That's right. And how can they have anticipated that in that tiny contract in the late 90s? Yeah. Whoa.

That said, throughout the universe, we're beyond it, baby. Plus, I think what's great about sort of a VR or metaverse city walk is that probably those goggles can make you sick at any moment. So it'll be fine. It'll just be like eating at CityWalk. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah.

You can maybe get the sickness done. You don't need the food. You don't need the food anymore. I mean, not having to eat the food is an upgrade. I am curious about if that would have been an upgrade for your experience. I do feel like because if you're going to shut off this feed, the immersive reality feed at some point. First of all, I'd like to say it almost does feel like this is maybe the chance for the listeners to feel what it's like to be on the show. Maybe we should simulate that.

They're going to have to plug in their own name or do some AI scan of my voice. Should we do a quick – It could be, yeah. Is it like – well, I feel like if I go, well, you just like turned everybody, but let me start by saying like, and our guest today is one of the greatest, the greatest guest

we've ever had. I don't know how it took so long to get you on the show. Thanks for being here. Wow. Are you so much more excited about this guest i'm so any guests we've ever had before this guest is the most exciting guest jason all the time are you the most excited about this guest this guest yeah you we're excited you're here whoa oh actually i'm so excited i'm

tipping over whoa oh oh sorry that was an accident that wasn't me trying to kiss you or anything let's not get into that territory i just accidentally fell in your direction maybe we should kiss this guest right now the first guest we have all ever wanted to kiss at the same time we should all kiss at one together in a four-way and scene all right we'll cut that. Listeners, you should know we're doing a lot of, like, pointing and things in the direction of the Vision Pro. And you should have, oh, you did a little, like,

what's the word? Minority riporia. Oh, my God. Okay, well, this is all very exciting. Yeah. But, you know, the only thing that's maybe a little bit more interesting than this, like, new universe of tech is contact with the metaphysical. And that is what we that is what we are able to bring in this series only.

So let's check in really briefly and get our official assignment today from the sector keeper. Boys, boys and van. Faith Six Sector Three is Bob Marley, a tribute to freedom. Pat O'Brien's and City Walk's rising star. Good luck, boys and van. I would say of the saga. And these are kind of the upstairs clubs that we're dealing with. First question, Susser, who was the guinea pig with your, your hand movements are insane. What is this? Are you picking cards out of a file machine? I'm scrolling through my camera roll

to get to my photographs of my dinner at the restaurant. I mean, that's good. You're the only guest who's really able to literally go back while we do it. Okay, but so I'm curious, if we're going back to a positive or a negative memory for you, because Susser, your collaborator, was kind of put out, I think, by...

Look, of course, we pounced on out, I think, by... We did... Look, of course, we pounced on him. We asked, like, you're going to be down there working on VillainCon. You got to go. Please go do something at CityWalk. And it was a little bit calamitous for him. We did the same for you. How would you characterize the evening in general that resulted in our hounding you to go there?

I had a wonderful evening. Okay. All right. I had just gotten in to Orlando. I was visiting the ride under construction for the first time. I had meetings in the morning, but nothing to do that night.

So I was staying on property at the, not the Sapphire Falls. What's the other one? Royal Pacific. Or maybe I not the Sapphire Falls. What's the other one? Royal Pacific. Or maybe I was the Sapphire. No, I was at the Sapphire Falls. And so there's a boat right there. Takes you right to City Walk.

Of course. So I hopped on the boat. I've got video of the boat ride right here I'm looking at right now. Oh, man, I'm so jealous. I want to be on the boat. Here I am going right by the plane that's in the water there. Not the Jimmy Buffett plane, but the plane that you pass

where like all the other boats in the river. Here I am coming under the bridge seeing the reveal of Toothsome's factory. Oh wow. You know, I couldn't have said this at the time, but I can now say Toothsome's appears in the VillainCon ride in the fight scene.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. CityWalk pulled into it. You're in the park, but watching CityWalk? That was a pitch from Evan and I to have that happen. And so this was my first time seeing the actual Toothsome's in person, even though I had pitched putting it in the game. And so it was important for me to see how did the real thing in the game,

how did those live up to each other? Yeah. So I was getting some work done, even though I was there. And I went to the Universal store at CityWalk that sells the, like, 90s merch. Oh, yes, the Legacy store. We covered that a little bit. And, yeah, here I am at the legacy store we covered that a little bit and uh yeah here i am at the legacy store i bought a hat i'll send you guys these pictures like old logo hat

on the old logo hat i'd bought one last time i was there when i was like 12 wow i bought the same hat oh that's cool uh and then i was getting hungry and i said hey Scott I texted you uh I might eat at the Bob Marley restaurant has anyone covered that yet no and you you were the first you you called it uh um got to it even before before uh Griffin Newman who I feel like was fishing for it maybe a little a little bit uh so you grabbed it and now I now I don't know if Griffin is gonna end up being part of the series because he wasn't as on the ball. I know. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, you're going to have to set this one out, Griffin. And yeah, I've got it all up right here.

Unfortunately, I can't see Jason anymore because all of my pictures are in front of him. That's all right. I'm actually looking. Bob Marley from the menu is right where he would be. Okay. I don't want to. This is terrible to say. I don't want to say that's an upgrade from Jason,

but of course Bob Marley. Well, the main character of Bob Marley won love, the hit movie, the worldwide hit in theaters as we speak. Indeed, which, maybe. I don't, Van, I don't know if, well, there's no maybe about it. Van, I don't know if you wanna reveal your more recent happenings

with you well i didn't go see the movie last night oh i planning to and telling scott i was going to so that's a the real reveal we even delayed the record a little bit so that it was possible maybe for us both both to go yes and then you threw it out there with with the and i was like i'm sorry these are theaters that are more than a mile from my house there's no way that's gonna work for me to see bob marley one love but you know i did get to watch the uh uh very enthusiastic band play for a completely empty room at bob marley's tribute to freedom and uh you know i feel like that's basically the same experience can you guys hear this? Let me play this. I don't know how loud this is to everyone else.

I think I can turn the volume up too. If it's loud drums, then... It hasn't played yet, so you wouldn't have heard it yet. Okay, here we go. I hear little... I hear... Whoa. I do hear some distant reggae coming from some goggles.

Wow. Isn't it great that our old... I wish I could put you guys in here and give you the experience of the Bob Marley. Yeah. You know, if only the technology had been there, I would have captured the room itself in immersive video. Does it do 360?

How many degrees around? Or do you just have to turn your head around to get? This itself actually doesn't record full. So 180 is the kind of like standard for immersive video. What this records, like when I was recording you guys, I think is more of like 100 degree kind of a box situation. Okay, so know that. If you're watching the immersive video, you're not getting the full periphery. I have other equipment, if that was what we needed, that I could have brought to capture that.

Yeah, but we're improvising. We didn't know. Yeah, so you could bring the full camera truck. Yes. Not to jump around, because I want to focus on your experience here, but I do just want to say, just to meditate on the phrase, Bob Marley, a tribute to freedom, is the name of this establishment. That phrase, to me, was one of the main things pulling me along to want to do this series. I've seen this phrase in brochures and passing by and signs and never gone in. This was an opening day thing for City Walk. So this has been here since 99. Millions of people have passed by the words Bob Marley, a tribute to freedom.

And maybe not meditated on it like we get to do now. Maybe not really reflected on the fact that you hear just the phrase and you're like, wow. So it must be like a museum, like a tribute to his life and kind of an exploration of, you know, it's like based on one man, but also exploring these broad. No, no, no. It's a restaurant. It's a restaurant where you, you know, you get like what's there, you know, Mai Tais and rum punch and jerk chicken salad. So the situation there, and I don't know if you guys have looked into this and done your research,

a lot of the Bob Marley IP is held by the Bob Marley Foundation, of which his wife and children were and are executives. And so they try, I'm sure out of the goodness of their hearts, but also to maintain their 501c3 charitable organization status, to always be trying to help to spread the important legacy of Bob Marley and his message through all of their many licensing endeavors. I see. Which are more than licensing endeavors because they're about these ideas, these ideas that can change the world fundamentally. And so I've pulled up the menu here on the screen and I can read to you guys.

There's a little some writing about bob marley oh please yeah oh yeah that's very helpful yeah uh this is on the back of all the menus it says beyond the legend bob marley was born robert nesta marley on february 6th 1945 in the slums of jamaica yet he had the talent vision and courage to become the foremost superstar of reggae music. Always mindful of the poverty and hard times of his youth, his songs of faith, hope, rebellion, and determination have brought inspiration and joy to audiences everywhere. He made his first recording at the age of 17,

and at 19, singing with the Wailers, originally called the Wailing Rude Boys. Bob's astounding international acclaim as a prolific songwriter and musician earned him a place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. These successes pale only in comparison to his achievements as a peacemaker and humanitarian. He was awarded the Order of Merit by the Jamaican government for his contribution to Jamaican culture and the Medal of Peace for the Third World by the United Nations.

The man who brought reggae to the world died tragically of brain cancer on May 11th, 1981. Three decades after his death, his spirit rages on in his music and his message. Bob Marley, a tribute to freedom, is proud to showcase his legend and his life filled with such talent and integrity. We've worked very closely with Rita Marley and the Bob Marley Foundation in order to replicate Bob's home on 56 Hope Road, Jamaica. We hope you enjoy your stay with us today, and we look forward to your return. Please take a moment to reflect on the artistry and words of this uncompromising artist and browse our collection of memorabilia. Wow.

Wow. That's like the heaviest thing. But then that's in a menu? Yes. And also it ends with the quote, don't gain the world and lose your soul, because wisdom is better than silver and gold, Bob Marley. But then like in the middle, is there like-

Jam and chips and salsa, Buffalo Soldier jerk wings, taste of Jamaica, a tour of island flavors, featuring our veggie and beef patties, jerk wings, and yuca fries. Is there a kids menu? Get up, stand up, mango wings. Is there a kids menu? There is. I know what it is. I want to see if a fan can find it.

Let's see. Do I have the... Well, I have got the Rastafarian Tings drink menu. I mean, it's great. It's exciting that something can be both that it that's that you you can it can be both a restaurant and a tribute to freedom yeah I do not seem to have the kids menu unfortunately the kids menu is called the lil legends menu yeah and one of the items on it is jamaican cheese is that we should almost we should honestly have like

awards at the end of this for best because we've encountered a lot of good with fallen brothers and the currently existing ones a lot of good themed item names is jamaica ronin cheese perhaps the best one we found up there yeah yeah maybe it's the best i'll declare it the best i also really like no woman no cry cry, jerk chicken salad. As someone who's gone through the process of theming a menu and naming themed menu items, I have to say it's harder than you might think to do it. Sure. And so some of these are a bit of a stretch, but I actually, I'm going to give them an A minus on the naming of these items.

Yeah. a stretch but i actually i'm gonna give them an a minus on the naming of these items yeah yeah um i got takeout from this restaurant and i ordered the natty dread vegetable patties this is two house meat patties filled with sweet potatoes red beans spinach spinach, carrots, onions, coconut milk, cocoa bread, yucca fries, and smoky ketchup. And you can here see all the different shades of brown and yellow and tan at my takeout. Oh, wow. All the colors. Yeah. The red of the ketchup, you're getting all,

it's every color you need. Sorry, I got, you were being blocked by the menu. Could I see that actually? Oh, sure, yeah. What you described seemed like a much more sophisticated dish, and then you showed it to me, and it looks like you can just get it. I will say, you know,

this is not the best restaurant, I think, for takeout. What with the centerpiece being a recreation of his home in Jamaica. Of a music legend's real home. A musical component, memorabilia on the walls it's definitely a funny i don't know that was the first night was to do but i also but jason is covering like that you know this is part of the experience there's a lot more takeout and bar situations oh yeah mike got to do takeout the glorious takeout of toothsome of course and uh jason got to do bob marley a takeout to freedom. A takeout to freedom. I like that. Look, the patties were delicious. Really good, really fresh.

The bread was stale, and the fries and ketchup were just kind of nothing. The yucca fries weren't really anything. The patties represent Bob's spirit, and the stale bread represents his oppressors and everyone who didn't believe in him. There's something that has to give you some feeling of hardship when you're eating the meal to make you appreciate what you have. Oh, sure.

To tell the full story of Mr. Marley in one meal. See, I had the sweet plantains and the rice and peas as my sides, and I think that those were perhaps a more Marley-esque side to have. Okay, okay. You felt the one love spirit more in the pointeans.

Just to give Scott, you, and you guys can pass this around. This is the view I see. Oh my God. We're like, we're AR, I'm looking at where you're looking, and AR has projected, here, let's just do lots of layers here. Let me take a picture with my phone. I'm in it. Great.

Okay. And there is, you're really, you are bringing the City Walk saga, you're bringing sagas into the 22nd century right now. So I've got the menu, as you can see, like right up there. And it's very easy for me to just move it right over here and block Jason. And just all I have to look at is the menu. And really it's just because he's right in front of me. For a reason? Is it just because it's your center? I can attest to your point of view that that is like the natural place.

But can't you like, couldn't you just slide it between me and Jason? Maybe slide it right over here. But, you know, that's, I guess that's fine. I feel like I'm going to make you. Okay, fine. I know you got your fake eyes, but you got to look my co-host in the eyes. If you're going to be here. Fair enough.

That's part of the rules. I think that's what Bob Marley would want, too. I think he knew the eyes were the windows to the soul. Yeah, go ahead and pass that over. Jammin' drinks. You see my boat ride. What did I do? There was a band playing outside while I was there.

Oh, wow, you're showing it to me. You started that on your phone? Yeah, I did that. You've just handed your vision out to the rest of us. You're taking parts of yourself. So you can see my food there. Okay, yeah. That's the Jamaican.

That doesn't look bad. Let me get the name right. I can't see it. It's so high quality. That is the reggae Jamaican jerk chicken. Wow. Half chicken marinated in Jamaican spices and scotch bonnet peppers, char-grilled, chopped,

rice and peas, sweet plantains. I gotta say, it was pretty good. Wow. I'd wondered about the quality of this as a restaurant. I didn't have great feelings about it from what Jason had conveyed, but you think if you do the sit down... I mean, I sat down and had what was

essentially a piece of rotisserie chicken with some jerk sauce on it. It's a pretty easy dish. Sure, but again, you have no idea. We've encountered such horrors in this series. I'm sure. Something made competently is exactly what we're looking for. He did. He saw it.

And if you give me the Wi-Fi, I can force my view onto his iPad, actually. Oh, wow. Actually, we should make it. Do you want to be commandeered, Jason? Do you want to be hacked? I can force my view onto his iPad actually. Oh, wow. Actually, we should make it. That sounds good. Do you want to be commandeered, Jason? Do you want to be hacked? Jason should be hacked. Can you put your vision into Jason's regular glasses?

They're not hooked up to any sort of cloud or Wi-Fi, but I don't know what this thing can do. That might be difficult, but I can always try. Just asking questions. Isn't it? just the fact that it's not called like because there's other things you know right right down mere feet away is jimmy buffett's margaritaville and is it a tribute to the man and his spirit yes but ultimately it's called jimmy buffett's margaritaville it's not a tribute to any greater yeah deeper concept the fact that this isn't like it's not Bob Marley's reggae roasters. It's just,

it's Bob, it's Bob Marley, a tribute to freedom. It just sets the, the bar so high for what this experience is going to be. And until you read that menu clearly, okay. I just popped in for a drink. So clearly I missed the menu is clearly the primary piece. They actually probably need to force people to, there should be a pre-show room where they make you read that as if it was scripture so that the rest really lands. Because as it did for me,

I just went in, I didn't even get like a mojito or anything, you know, island-ish. I just got a glass of wine. And I did watch. Not a cool you down? Not a mighty good drink? No.

Not a freedom freeze? Is there a freedom freeze? Of course there's a freedom freeze. Well, I mean, what better way to drink freedom? Not Uncle Ray's Rum Punch? I didn't. No, I didn't do anything fun. Banana Jammin'?

No. I know it was an end of the night situation, so I just needed to coast down. I don't think I needed a new type of cocktail in me, but I'm regretting it now. I feel like I let Bob down. Okay, let me see if this is an unpopular opinion. I like that they're going for something ambitious. I like that it's like where he grew up when he was little.

But I feel like the fun names here, which I'm always calling for more fun names on menus, here it doesn't work. I think you should have very boring sounding names and maybe less ambitious food hmm interesting i see i think that if you gave boring names then you failed at um how should i put it capturing the uh you know uh the uh where is it? I'm looking at the notes. Thesaurus.com?

No, no. The artistry and words of this uncompromising artist. I think if you go for boring names, you failed to capture that. I mean, one love, okay. Yeah, you got to put some stuff like that. Are you trying to make a more successful restaurant? No, I'm not. Because I think you need to be careful. I am not trying to make this more successful.

Don't gain the world and lose your soul, because wisdom is better than silver and gold, I'm not. Because I think you need to be careful. I am not trying to make this more successful. Don't gain the world and lose your soul because wisdom is better than silver and gold. I understand that. I believe that. But I'm saying that if you're really, if the whole place is of a piece, I feel like the menu is in contention with the aesthetic of the rest of the place. That's what I'm saying.

I want to feel more. It's too silly. But his music is fun. That's true. It is.. But his music is fun. That's true. It is. It is too. And reggae music is fun. It is fun. I feel like probably they're playing the greatest. When I went, and then the next night when I was hearing it from behind me at the Cowfish Sushi Bar,

I definitely heard Past the duchy both in there and then blasting in from another restaurant which made it feel a little less special honestly because I was really actually digging it while they're in prison and then it suddenly felt like oh well so they always play past the duchy don't they well there was a private party the one night

I think had taken over did they take over that space it was one of those clubs yeah there was a minute where we weren't going to get into some of these places because uh there were there were barricades up for some private i forget at which of the clubs right we thought that was going to be a bit that was going to stop us in our tracks but hopefully but pretty much i feel like we're making it to everything we're supposed to again we're going to check by the way just to announce it we're

going to check in with the center keeper at the very end and just make sure that we've like proceeded according to his wishes and we'll let you go before that van but uh um otherwise i think we're penetrating we're covering everything here but um anyway past the duchy's fun i know that's not his song but you know so if you have uh i guess i i don't want to like i sort of the elephant in the room um you know uh the man practiced a religion the centerpiece of which is just getting really, really high on marijuana. Sure. I think to criticize the men you attribute to him as being too silly is really kind of runs afoul of the man's lifestyle and his spirit. I think it's really just a tribute to freedom.

You can be silly and serious at the same time is, I think, one of the messages of Bob Marley. Okay. Well, but maybe it should be a tribute to freedom and being silly. We should say that. And that's maybe the title of the place in my mind. Well, this, I get, you know,

if Van could speak to this from a corporate standpoint, you were, that was probably some of the thing with thinking of menu items is like the economy of words. And that does seem like, I hear what you're saying, mike but it does seem like yeah maybe a little too much to get into one title the title sounds so important it doesn't it almost it honestly sounds like it's not gonna be i feel like we are like doesn't it sound like the name of a uh of a museum that's gonna deal with some heavy yes topics that might deal with just with mass killings or something like that does it does not sound like

a place to go and get drunk. Tribute is maybe the word. Maybe that's really all I'm responding to. Tribute's pretty heady. Honestly, if it were celebration, a celebration of freedom. Different story. Celebration does change it. Is anything called a

tribute? In those early Universal rides, was Alfred Hitchcock, I know we've covered a lot of these, but I don't remember. That was just like magic of the movie. Was anything a tribute? Lucy a tribute. Lucy a tribute. And that is a museum.

A museum, yes. We liked it. I think we all found memories of that. That was fun. Yes, love Lucy a tribute. But it's not as fun as, you can't go get Lucy-themed cocktails there. It's not that fun. It would be inappropriate if they did that it would

be but wasn't she she was she probably was a drinker right oh a smoker for sure probably a drinker as well certainly that they should at least offer cigarette there should be cigarettes what does he put her through she had a lot of drinks i bet lucy attribute i believe last time i was there had the uh the Back to the Future car in it. That building. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's right next to it. No, it became like a general universal thing.

It definitely like loosened up. Yes. Not Lucy a tribute to freedom. No. That was not Lucy's primary. No. That's an exhibit about her divorce from Desi. Yeah.

There's the tribute stores. They do like a lot of big themed stores. Sure. That kind of rotate. Okay, yeah. But it doesn't feel as ponderous. Tribute to freedom makes you feel like you have to go reflect on what it would be like to not be free. Yeah.

It makes it seem like there's going to be a dark side, a grim side to it. Whereas I think you can attest to this, Van. I think you go and you have a lot of fun at this place. It's a good time. I was there alone, sat at the bar. It was a little rainy, and I still had a nice time. You know, I went to Toothsome's after and got a big giant piece of fudge with peanut butter on top.

Was that more fun? We don't need to say that. Well, that's for a different episode. A different sector, yeah, yeah. But I had a generally positive experience i will say like yeah there was rain but uh it does seem to be the most sparsely attended uh of the city walk restaurants yeah yeah well we were there on i went on a tuesday night and i think the two the the Tuesday night of it definitely reduced crowds I imagine

it's a little more pumping on the weekend but the the sparse crowds that I factor into some of the things in this sector being fun we'll get to the the other place yeah yeah um but what it did allow for me is that I was able to get a front row seat at what I think is a is a first class concert venue I'm I'm looking at this and like how many because just the way it's a rant where it's this big like you know there's like you know the whole upstairs component like all these porches there's so many little spots yes to watch something and you know concert venues there's a lot of great concert venues out there but I not not a lot that have little like nooks and overhangs which I feel like is what you know

probably what they used to be more like in the which i feel like is what you know probably what they used to be more like in the 40s and 50s and you know when concerts are being held and kind of like we're you know we're turning this old church or this old movie theater into this and that it i was just there like boy i'd be lucky to see any if a band i loved was playing at bob marley a tribute to freedom be fucking awesome yeah great venue and then also that i have a front row seat for whatever it is it's just gonna be like all right it's just it is a reggae band and they're gonna play some reggae covers yes it's not the greatest thing in the world but the one band i think it does seem i'm sure we probably watched the did you also get past the dutchie uh yes yes okay they

seem to have about a half a dozen songs yeah yes yeah we got this it's uh it's a surprisingly uh showbiz pizza-esque uh performance despite being a human being well with a lot of repeated i feel like the singer was just like was he just like slow motion marching yeah like a robot he's got his like his couple moves you know it does have the thing that happens, which look, God bless the performers. They added to the experience, but when I arrived, there was no one out there on the patio and they were performing. No spectators. And they just,

you know, in order to entice me to join in, they are ready and going. And that show goes on whether there's an audience or not. Wow. That's cool. You know, and that show goes on, whether there's an audience or not. Wow. That's cool. You know, I have to applaud that. It reminds me of a good friend of mine, Mr. Bugmane,

who had a similar experience at Los Angeles Comic Con. Oh, yeah, yeah. Performing for about a half a dozen people in a 500-person auditorium. Entirely empty chairs, and yet he gave it his all he performed as if there were five what we found out after is that um a board member of los angeles comic-con was one of the five people in attendance and said it was his favorite thing he saw at the convention and hope we came back so oh wow you never know right if you come to la comic-con fingers crossed after that hustle bug put in who going to be there in that small crowd?

Wow, wow, wow. That's why you always give it your all. Jeez. Well, that's, you know, yeah, the lesson that such an impassioned artist as Bob Marley or Bug Mane can teach us. Bug Mane attribute to Pudding. To Pudding sauce. So I end up at, like, pretty psyched to sit down realize wow whenever this band goes on we're

getting a front row seat and it was me and the level keeper I did get to have a little one-on-one time with the level keeper and we did it was a funny just back and forth talk about the duality that this whole experience has where um it was just it was a particular moment he'd we just ended up in a conversation that was kind of about like parents health struggles and and mortality and can aging and kind of we're talking about you know we you know as that happens you're on a trip with somebody you get into Simpson head of your topics and we're like yeah well you know yeah parents get older and it doesn't you know these things don't last forever and you just got to remember that.

And then suddenly hard wall of reggae comes down, interrupts the serious conversation. And isn't that what you need in a serious conversation? Just to shake you out. Yeah, you know, I think it couldn't have gone better if you ask me. Yeah, yeah. It was my favorite.

It is a tie in terms of serious subject matter mixed with environment. It is maybe a runner-up only to this other thing. And I'm going to go back to something. I'm going to go way back a bunch of sectors and talk about a moment. I can't let this series pass without talking about it. Please.

When we were all at the food court, we're up at the food court and we have our little potluck of all the various things we could sample from the food court uh we're up at the food court we have our little potluck of all the various things uh you know we could sample from the food court um and jason you got into a story and the details of the story don't matter but it was kind of a grim story do you know what i'm talking about yeah kind of you told a story that i without getting into details it was a it was it was the stories of a very tragic death that had happened to somebody peripheral to you and a neighbor with kind of awful details and you didn't tell this story as this was not like a fun thing it's not something you're taking lightly the opposite no

no it was very startling yes yeah yeah and we all kind of you told the story and we all kind of like oh god geez well that's oh that's terrible and we're all reeling from it. And then I realized that as you're telling a story and we're all processing it, we are all wearing the little Burger King crowns. And no one acknowledged it until now. Was it at least someone's birthday? No, we were just like, oh, we're at the BK Whopper bar. We have to get the crowns.

A stack of them when you walked in, like a whole line of them. We're all in little crowns like, Jesus, well, that's, you know, oh, we have to get the crown. A stack of them when you walked in, like a whole line of them. We're all in little crowns like, Jesus, well that's, you know, you hate to hear that. Well, nobody took their crown off and put it over their heart or anything, so at least it wasn't like that bad. It was still funny. Better than more insulting or less. Maybe that would have

addressed the gravity. Yeah. Yeah, I do remember that now. That was, oh boy, that's the culture clash clash what environments can bring you at this place I also got the fun of that I was getting a lot of text suddenly about an upcoming pitch that I'm doing

with people and I wanted to feel the text and take them seriously but I instead I sent a video and said yeah listen I'm gonna deal with this as soon as the reggae concert is over and then spun around to the very close reggae performer in front of me. That was the most satisfying way to push notes I've ever... So anyway, before we move on to the next thing, let me just say, if we're going to meditate on the title of this,

the definition of freedom is the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint. Do we feel like, do you feel like in your visit there, do any of us feel like in our visits here that we did the definition, participated in the dictionary definition of freedom? Yes, because while I didn't get any substitutions on my sides they do allow substitutions which is not uh always the case and to me that is true freedom yeah freedom to substitute beautiful jeez if they didn't have that maybe then you could scarcely put bob marley's name on this place oh wow yeah damn very good point um well let's talk about the other you know you you went and did this and then you happened into another one of these places as part of your sector assignment.

But it worked out pretty nicely, which is Pat O'Brien's. Yes. It's right next door, I believe, or right nearby. Yeah, I think they're in a store. the Pat O'Brien's in New Orleans. It is accurate, you feel. It is actually quite accurate. Okay. They have that fountain. Yes. It's actually quite accurate. Okay. They have that fountain. It's a champagne glass that's on fire. The flaming fountain in the courtyard, which is a very nice little...

They carve... Let me just say, everybody who did the production design of Bob Marley, recreating Bob Marley's house. It looks cool. Everybody who worked on City Walk, the bones of it back in 99, spectacular. Great job, everybody. Yeah. I agree.

I mean, look, are either of them nbc sports grill and and brew uh i don't see a lot of logos in years not as fun uh but uh you know i i the pat o'brien's i thought was a good recreation and that's a place that, you know, I went to a lot. Yeah, it's a lot of bars that are very touristy in New Orleans, which that is a touristy place. They're also, they can be kind of very local too, but for people who are in high school. Uh-huh. Okay. And, you know, in Louisiana, you only have to be 18 to be in a bar even though you have to be 21 to drink um and so it it causes a sort of ripple effect of people who are like 14 and 15 having a fake id that says they're 18 which is more believable than one that said they

were 21 oh so just ages all the generations it just ages down who's in a bar that shouldn't be tremendously. Two tiers of it. Not this bar, but there's another bar called The Boot that is near a college campus. But I remember when I was actually in college being like, I can't go there. Everybody there's in high school. Because literally only high school-aged people went to this bar for the most part that's weird um and so it's it's a strange city um but uh the drinking age was 18 there until the 90s when the federal government cut off the highway funds and forced them to raise it to 21 and return

for having highways um the same bucket of money but so i spent a lot of time at Pat O'Brien's in my youth. And, you know, I didn't have any drinks at the Pat O'Brien's in Orlando. But I imagine they're pretty accurate to the hurricanes back home. I hope. I have to admit, I don't think we, again, this was the end of night. And you didn't get a hurricane at Pat O'Brien's, the drink they're famous for? No, but at the end of the night, the last drink, I need to coast out with a beer or wine. I can't be adding a new type of liquor. As with both of these,

I guess I failed the audience by not getting signature drinks at either of these places. But I had a fun time, Adam. I didn't even, I'll be honest, I didn't even think about getting a hurricane, and I'm embarrassed that I didn't. You know what I think I got? What's that Pennsylvania beer, Jason, that you bring up and I never know what you're talking about? Yingling.

Yingling. Yeah. I had a guy, Jonah Sobel, a guy in my freshman floor, obsessed with Yingling in college. All he would talk about. Sure. Jonah, if you're a listener,

we got a Yingling fan here Oh yeah Let that lure you into the podcast While he's listening already Yeah I like the beer It's a good beer I never had it

It's good I didn't It used to be like Everywhere At Universal And City Walk Yeah Yingling Yeah

So And I didn't see it A lot of places It was there Deep in the piano room they had it so I know that some of these things are recreations

there's one half of it I didn't go into I went into the courtyard and saw that fountain that's a recreation the piano room it's a tribute to the whole establishment but it's also it is their dueling piano bar which is the case in New Orleans there is also a dueling piano bar, which is the case in New Orleans.

There is also a dueling piano bar, correct. And this room seems like a, there's like a lot of steins up on the ceiling. Is that how big it was in New Orleans? It's not, they're about the same. It's not that big of a, how big? It's not that big. It's not that big, yeah. Neither is very big.

They're both pretty small. It's a smallish room. I think that is pretty accurate to it. Okay. Because this was our experience. I kind of thought we were just going to pop in there and not really hang. But by this point, it was just Mike and I. And we walked into, I would say, an ideal situation for uh dad's approaching 40 uh uh out out on the town um which is a mostly empty

bar uh with an almost entirely empty bar uh with plenty of space to sit and not loud and a guy playing a ben folds cover hey yeah this is for you, this is exactly, I heard that and I'm like, oh, we might be sitting around for a while. Yeah, there were only two other people in the room, I believe. And maybe there was one straight person that left quickly. Yeah. And then, yeah, there's probably room for like 80 people in there. Could be more.

I think you could pack more in there. And there were four. Jeez. Which now, let me back up and say, dueling piano bars have been a wedge issue on this podcast. Well, right. In a previous saga, you know, that Howl at the Moon place was not really my vibe. And on this same trip, the next night after this, Jelly Rolls at the Boardwalk Resort, you were drawn to like a fly to sugar and yes i i could not wait to get out of there yeah i just re-listened to the howl at the moon

one where i realized lindsey and aaron had the exact same both of them were propelled out of this place like jet fighters pushing the button how fast can i get out of and i guess i'm usually the same way so to end up looking at a dueling piano environment and thinking i think i might want to be here for a little while was shocking i think that's that pat o'brien's ambiance it was really that i loved the room the room was great i love the ceiling love the mold of the brown cozy intimate but it was not the two gentlemen playing the piano, even though they would hit some things later

that I would call, let's just call them normie crowd pleasers, which I think is where the line is generally drawn from a jelly rolls to here. Yes. Generally speaking, they're going to play some songs that are wedding songs. They'll play some journey.

They'll do, we've talked about it many times. There's three songs that they play. I thought this was going to be Living on a Prayer City. Sweet Caroline City. That's where I was entering. Did they play Piano Man? Which one? Not with us.

Not with us. No. Okay. Does it get played there once a day? Yeah, maybe. Probably. Probably. You got a problem with that? I figured if it was later at night it would probably be a little sad at midnight even if there's two pianos going back and forth on it sure they should really though make it double they should it's on you're the dueling piano men they played the saddest one of the saddest songs ever too when we were there well this so what it

became was we realized okay we're in good company. Even though it was the luckiest, which is a little bit corny for my taste, within my Ben Folds. However, you know, Ben Folds, I feel like, is where, this is where you and I have a truce as far as 90s music. Yeah, yeah.

This is exactly the intersection, the Terminator, not the Terminator, the Predator, Arms, Crossing. I.P. Carl, yeah. Yes, yeah the Terminator, the Predator arms crossing. I.P. Carl, yeah. Yes, yeah, yeah. That is where we line up. That's right. We signed together.

Yeah, yeah, yes. Yeah. Signed together. And then we realized, oh, wait, I bet this could just become you and I throwing out old man music taste to these guys who I bet would like to play stuff that's a little bit not the usual. You're not your Bon Jovis. We were going back and forth

because obviously the way this usually works is there's little pieces of paper. You go, you write it down, you put it up there, you put a dollar or two in the bucket or whatever. And that was happening between us and this couple that was there as well. And they had previously just been clearly getting an entire concert.

Two piano players playing only for you. Cool. I'm sorry I players playing only for you. Cool. Yes. I'm sorry I interrupted it for those people. Yes, but we ruined it for them. And I believe I forced them to leave. Not that I picked a bad thing. I just picked a long thing.

Wichita line men. Well, that was cool. That was short. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess it is. Yeah, that might have worked. What Mike ended up throwing out. I think everyone was living in harmony for a while.

Yes. I think we all were on the same page, and then we weren't. Where did this begin? I think just the desire for Randy Newman became... Yeah, we were talking about that, but that's not... It's normal for at a piano bar, the desire for Randy Newman becomes unstoppable and uncontrollable. Well, of course. I think anyone who's been to one knows that.

Well, everybody gets worked into a lather as soon as his name is mentioned And they think of all of his high energy songs And then they just want to fight Or fuck I guess If you really think about it I primarily have sex to Randy Newman's music Yeah yeah So I think

I forget who said it maybe I said Randy Newman I think he just I was a little let down because it was like I think he played You Got a Friend of Me. No, no, no. I was like, we're getting closer. Although he played it different.

I think he played, maybe he played Sail Away. I think he said- Well, there was one- He tried to present it as if it was like an obscure one, and I was like, this is the song of the most famous album, sir. We're trying to lure the one especially. There was one who I think kept leaving. He he's like i don't want to participate in or i i i think there was one who was there for crowd pleasers and another who seemed really happy we were there yes he was older he was an older guy

the younger guy kept leaving but then the younger guy would come back and play stuff that i more liked because he would play more like stuff that he listened to in high school or that I listened to in high school but then the older guy was happier when you would throw a Steely Dan at him or when I cleared the room by suggesting he play Bruce Springsteen's seven or eight minute song Jungle Land which he did in its entirety hey good for him sweets movements it was complex. Yes. A lot of it was. The dance complex.

You know, what a fool believes was a challenge that he was excited to take on. But I thought it was good just for you and I. You know how it is. Parent mode. Every day is kind of the same. It's all wonderful, but it can get a little samey. Now you and I, we're across the country, and we're just making requests of this piano. Sing us a song, Piano Man.

I was like, Mike and I are only one tick away. What we want is to have three drinks exactly. And I want to hear Steely Dan, and you want to hear Bruce Springsteen. Dad's got what we wanted. It really was like dad make a wish it was really crazy that it had happened like it almost like lined up it there was a magic i had like there's a feeling of like magical serendipity that happened that night it

was the first night i was in orlando and it was like wow maybe like going to city walk every night will be like this yes maybe there's actually like maybe this series won City Walk every night will be like this. Yes. Maybe there's actually like- Maybe this series won't work because there will be too much legitimate, great, evocative fun. Right, right, right. And not enough food poisoning. Now, of course, I love jelly rolls in a different way, but I would say this might have been the highlight of City Walk.

Van just gave a slight- I'm going to call you. You just gave a slight thumbs down. You've been to jelly rolls? Yeah, not a fan of jelly rolls. Van just gave us, I'm going to call you. You just gave us sly thumbs down. You've been to Jelly Rolls? Yeah, not a fan of Jelly Rolls. Wow, you've done Jelly Rolls. Really? I'm a Yacht and Beach Club stayer myself. Oh, so you have been there.

Oh, we haven't talked about this, have we? Really? It's quite conveniently located. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Where do you end up then? Where would you rather be?

Well, I used to be, I'd end up at the ESPN Zone instead. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Right there. But yeah, not a Jelly Rolls fan. Too high energy? Too, I don't like. I'd end up at the ESPN zone instead. Wow. Right there. Yeah, not a Jelly Rolls fan. Too high energy? Well, first of all, I don't like the space.

Too big. I didn't even know. It's very big. I left before I could see it. And once they said there was a cover, I'm sorry, a cover would be involved in this? No, I mean, a cover when you're already almost definitely staying on property at Disney. Yeah, yeah.

Money's already going out the door. There's a past guest of the show that DM'd me that she went to this place recently, and I think that's going to have to be an episode eventually, full jelly rolls. I think that's probably right. I think it's deserving of an episode, I'll say that. Oh, sure, I understand. It's just not your scene. I'm not a fan of it, but that could be said about many things deserving of episodes, potentially.

Potentially, yeah. Maybe a lot of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. But then, sorry, should we go back to, do you have a full, you didn't write the full set list down, did you? I wrote down anything that I took a video of.

Yeah. Just real quick, though, none of you have been to the real Pat O'Brien's. No, no, no, no. What about the city of New Orleans at all? No, no, no. I have not. Okay.

Well, you know what? It's not that. It's a close enough simulacrum of that slice, I would actually say. Wow, really? Just that slice. As soon as you walk outside and it doesn't smell like piss and everyone's not stumbling around still drinking with open containers, then it's no longer the same. That is mostly wound down right

up until that exit of course you can walk around with an open container city walk orlando yes that is the difference that is probably unless it's the busiest friday night in the summer i think it's probably not getting close to new orleans uh before you get into your set list which i think you want to launch into more of because i'm sure the listeners need to hear every other song. I do it real quick. They love a list. It's a shame none of you have had the hurricane because I did have a good Pat O'Brien's hurricane anecdote. Oh, yeah, please.

So my cousin's husband, when he was in high school, he had a job mixing up the hurricanes at Pat O'Brien's, so they batch them in the daytime, and they serve them out of big giant coolers. And so it's a rum punch drink. And he said that the Mexican rum that they made them from was so cheap that it would come in crates and the crates would regularly have one or two completely empty bottles in them. But they just were like, that's fine. So that'll give you a sense of just how sugared up a hurricane is.

The rum quality could be whatever it needs to be, but they would mix them up in giant oil drum vats. And then that would get spread out to the, like ladled into the Gatorade cooler type storage to then be put into their fancy little glasses and sold for $18 a person to tourists. Wow. Pat O'Brien's, I'm seeing on the website,

there's also about 10 different, including the Hurricane, bottled mixes, everything from triple sec to pina colada mix, margarita mix, daiquiri mix. You can buy mixes? Yes, you get a good Hurricane mix. They're tied up with one of the cocktail distributor people a lot of the companies that distribute the liquor

distributors and the mixer distributors are actually based in uh in new orleans the cocktail was invented in new orleans at this biped o'brien personally or at least the lore might go uh such well there there's a uh it was actually at a pharmacy where it was first invented but really really yes but uh but but so that that business is actually still like an actual like import export business that likes where this stuff gets shipped around the world so they they're hooked up with like one of the like people who make you know the like sour mix you get in a normal grocery store okay and so like you you could you you'll end up sometimes seeing pat o'brien's hurricane mix just like you might see

it in a grocery store out here just because it's distributed by one of the same companies but they yeah they have their own set of mixers and mixes and the the powdered hurricane mix that they uh distribute is pretty accurate to the real deal. Yeah. What else goes into it? What's in a hurricane? It's basically rum, sugar, and red. What's red?

Are the three ingredients. What's red? Red food coloring. Punch, basically. You know, I'll tell you, the powder's white. It doesn't turn red until you add water, whatever it is. But, yeah, it's a fruit punch type rum punch beverage. And so some sort of artificial fruit punch flavoring.

So if you would end it tonight with one of these, you might have been going to Orlando General. Yes. And I've been a big fruit punch at the end of the day. Yeah. Yes, the sugary fruit punch disguises the large amount of alcohol in it. But I think ultimately the sugar will cause you more of a hangover than the liquor. Oh, yeah. And this is the true villain of my drinking career as I approach 40 is that, yeah, the sugar is far more of a problem. I've just been to Specsavers and upgraded my lenses to extra thin and light with 50% off. Now, what else can I upgrade? My cat?

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Offer ends soon. I don't need to read the list. I have no... You know, refresh me. Give me a little bit of the list, I think. Just quick hits. The thing that I thought was funny is that I did feel, I have no. You know, refresh me. Give me a little bit of the list, I think. Just quick, quick hits. The thing that I thought

was funny is that I did feel like I was saying how nice it was for dads to get out, but then I do feel like we were punished by having to hear cats in the cradle.

Oh, oh yeah. How dare we leave. That's a penance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't request that.

Just had to say, no, no, no. It's like they knew. Yeah. Let's give these, let's cut these guys down.

No, I don't know. Well, you look, you got your big surprise bare naked ladies. Well, I just had to say no to no. It's like they knew. Yeah. Let's cut these guys down a notch. No, I don't know. Well, look, you got your big surprise, Bare Naked Ladies. Well, that's the younger guy came back, and he just out of nowhere plays one week by the Bare Naked Ladies. Was not my request. And then, yeah, we said this already that I dared him to go deeper, more obscure. Either gentleman to go more obscure. And one of the guys was like, I know exactly what i'm gonna play i was playing this all the time when we were outside during the pandemic

and he made the he was like this kind of became like a really a song i really really like and i was like oh my god what is he gonna play this is gonna be crazy or whatever and then he played the song odds are which is a post stephen page leaving bare Barenaked Ladies song which I am not I don't fuck with them much anymore ever since Steven left Language I apologize Language Michael

I've said it twice but I'm so passionate about rock and roll music that that sometimes just gets me all you know frothy like a Randy Newman song Sure I had a feeling that it was a post-Steven leaving song and I think I knew it because five seconds in you leaned to me I had a feeling that it was a post-Steven leaving song,

and I think I knew it because five seconds in, you leaned to me in a video I have and said, this is after Steven left. I wanted him to make sure. Now, that being said, it's one of the, look, Ed has chased hits ever since, okay? Ed Robertson, of course, does the rapping on one week. Steven's the one who sings, it's been, that's his voice. Jason, of course, doesn't even know any of this.

When he saw the Barenaked Ladies, he didn't realize Steven was out of the band. So this might be an average concert goer not realizing it. Jason seems pretty bent out of shape about it.

Let's educate everybody. It's not your fault. Well, I thought he was going to be like, I'll go deeper, and he just pulls it out if I had a million dollars or something.

Well, sure. You could also say, well, it's not so... Van, how lost are you? What is your... And are you anxious to get past the Barenaked Ladies material? He's anxious to get past,

but I don't think he's lost. He got me back at had a million dollars. Sure, sure. Well, all right. That was on a radio hit. That was on the radio. Can you pull up a... No, I know this.

Can you pull up a music video for it? Can you pull up the Odds Are music video, which I have watched, which is about all the different things that could happen in your life, but Odds Are you're going to be all right. Odds Are we're going to be all right tonight. I do know the chorus. I mean, that's honestly, that's kind of a good little anthem for the series because Odds Were, we were all going to get sick and tired

of lots of aspects of this. But we were alright. Yeah, not as good. I'm not sure what the ladies perform odds are at Billboard Studio. No, you want the video where they're like newscasters. Oh, there we go. Yep, got it. Okay, good. Can the Vision Pro

somehow insert Stephen back into the band? Yeah, but the song wouldn't just sound right because it doesn't sound like one he would have worked on with him. We can hear that. We can hear that a little bit.

That's kind of bizarre. Do I have permission to place this over Jason? Do you put it over me? Could you place it over me? Only because he's not a fan. That's just justice. Is there a program

that can insert Jason into the Odds Are music video? It's playing. I have it accidentally. It's playing back in slow motion. Jason's singing a song or whatever. That's not right. There's a new Barney Glade song called Love and Life, which is maybe the most pandery song I've ever heard in my life.

Jeez, you hate these guys. No, I don't. I feel bad that I'm so negative about it. But there's a song called Love and Life that I'm not a big fan of. But he then played. Yeah, there it is. You're a one-man DJ over there. Please, keep going. Yeah, I just want to make sure.

Okay. So he played it. Honestly, I was kind of delighted, though. To be all kidding aside, I was like... It's a good test of the speakers to can it pass through. Because this is going through so many mediums. Vision Pro, to microphone, into Zoom, into podcast app, into listener's car or headset. How did that sound?

Rated for me. Yeah. Honestly, I was delighted that this was the choice. I was just not expecting this of anything. And he was just like... He gave, I feel like, a little moving speech about how this song kind of meant something to him because he's playing it outside and there's so much like uncertainty about the pandemic and they've moved the piano out there and he's like he's like playing this like late period baronica lady song like tearing up every night like i'm like imagining

this whole story he's got uh so i was like ah this is this is good this is good now i kind of like this song because of that. Wow. Yeah. Wow, because of that performance. You know what? And I like the guy in general. We went up and talked to them after.

We was like, wow, thanks for playing everything we like. And I think the guy was Rob the Piano Guy. Oh, I sent him Venmo, yeah. Oh, jeez. Oh, great. I could look it up. That's what I meant. I think he was a Howl at the Moon person around when I worked at Universal Hollywood. So great job.

They closed it out with a bunch of Abbey Road. We got a bunch of- Oh, yeah. I forgot all about that. What a great way to end. Did Dave Matthews band? I texted Mitch. I'm like, there's a guy playing Two Step by Dave Matthews.

Wow. Mitch got excited about that. Wow. Wow. You're lighting up people across the country. Keep Me in Your Heart for a While is the one, the saddest song ever. They wrote when he was dying. Oh, I forgot that. Wow. Wow. You're lighting up people across the country. Warren Zevon, Keep Me In Your Heart For A While is the one, the saddest song ever. They wrote when he was dying. Oh, I forget that. So yeah, I was like, I was

touched many times. You know what? It was like an intimate, cool performance that reminded me, Mike, you and I are both very fond of The Largo. Yeah. Composer John Bryan's performances at The Largo where he kind of goes through the great American songbook and you can request off-the-wall things and see what inspires.

Yeah, it was. I could not believe how much this dueling piano bar in Orlando was giving vibes of these Largo shows. I liked the candlelit atmosphere. This was one of the big shockers of the trip. I would say go to Pat O'Brien's, but do it on an empty Tuesday or Wednesday. Yeah. Unless you do want to hear it.

But not on an empty stomach if you're going to get a hurricane. Yeah. Very smart. Get a cup of gumbo with it. Cup of gumbo to go. Cup of gumbo and a hurricane. Boy, that seems like a classic city walk. Yum, yum.

Poor decision. But yet a tribute to the freedom that you have when you're there. Yes, it is a tribute to freedom. Fuck yourself up. Have we missed anything about one of these places? Any important details? I don't think so. Because I think this is a great revisit to tonight's life.

No, I think we got it. Both these places, I think, also are victims of their placement in CityWalk at this point. Because they're both kind of hidden. Pat O'Brien's way back there. They're both kind of hidden. I've been airdropped a photo from Van. Great, thank you. This is so efficient.

We're getting all our future content out. Thank you. You're welcome. So I almost wish there were more people like, oh, I missed my airdrop. Okay, I've accepted it now. Is it Ed in the music video? I think it is.

Over Jason? Well, almost. You can see Jason. I scooted it over. Jason's spoken through. Great. I think there should be people there that are more directing people towards these establishments.

There's signs with arrows. Yeah, but you don't see those. Something that says food, drink shops, and then there's an escalator. But it's not enough. You want to make sure these places don't disappear. These both have unique menus, like unique food offerings. I'm surprised our family never made our way back to either one of them. It's because of placement, I bet.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, they're tucked up there. It's part of the, I like the sprawling nature of this place with these little secret rooms almost. And yet, but maybe they suffer because of them. So listeners, check them out. And you want the intimacy, as I always say. You want the intimacy so you don't want maybe it to be completely packed, but you don't want it to close either.

And I don't like, you don't want it to become more of a douchey well jelly rolls because again jelly was you get your jelly rolls fill at disney world yeah well i will say both of these places have been open without change since 1999 yeah so i'm not terribly so universal forgot that they're there and with other ones that have changed a ton you know motown cafe didn't make i do think they their tucked away placement has helped them to- To weather the storms. To weather the storm.

Oh, as opposed to like that, you know, Motown Cafe got axed for Bubba Gump because it was prime position. They're eyeing those ones kind of on the main alley more. Right. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, I hope they stay tucked away there forever fun and freedom is what you

can find in this sector and Van we thank you for experiencing both of those things and technology thank you for the tribute to technology Van Roche show you survive podcast the ride the city walk Orlando saga multiverse of madness let's exit through the plug portal is there anything you'd like to plug

first to the Apple Vision Pro on Multiverse of Madness. Let's exit through the plug portal. Is there anything you'd like to plug? First, the Apple Vision Pro. My buddy Tim wanted me to plug that on the show. Sure. And then if you're in the Los Angeles area, April 24th will be the next edition of Bugmane's Manifesto, Manifesto 3. Oh, I didn't, this is breaking news to me. This has not been announced.

This is being announced here for the first time. PTR exclusive. That is at the Lyric Hyperion Theater in Los Angeles. And, you know, I want to say it's at like 9 or 10 o'clock, but I don't really know the time exactly. But just search for the Lyric Hyperion Theater, and it should be up. It's a great time.

I've been to both manifestos. They've both been very educational and great for just grounding, centering, calibrating. It's a musical and comedic extravaganza. Yeah, highly recommend it. Not to be missed. I do perform in them as well myself. It's a rare occasion to see me perform

and I have a feeling if you want to see me in this Vision Pro headset, I may be wearing it during the show. I'd believe it. I believe. Okay, okay. So look for the guy in the Vision Pro, unless everyone is wearing them.

But you know, it's well over a month from now. So it could be have taken over the world by storm by then, based off of this appearance. All right. Can you make that look more like Cyclops' visor? Say more. You know what I'm talking about, Cyclops. He has like a gold visor with a red strip.

Gold visor with a red strip in there. He got like, it's like energy beams. You know what I'm talking about. Well, but like how would this look like? Are you asking if I could make the, what are you asking me to do? Could your eyes go away and it could be like sort of that red strip?

Sort of. So if I go into an immersive experience, let me pull one up. Because you could mod the outside to be yellow like Cyclops. You know, like, you could just paint it. So when I go to an immersive experience, you guys don't see my eyes anymore. No, okay, that's, yeah.

That looks like the Punch Drunk Love psychedelic scene break, speaking of John Bryan. And so I could say, because I am a developer right now, they don't give me access to really control what's on this screen, but I have a feeling that sort of thing will open up eventually. Because you can get them. I'm sure somebody's going to make the outside yellow and then put a red strip there.

Well, the issue is there's cameras all throughout. Right. It's not going to be perfect. It's all over the place. And so it's limited in what you could do to cover things up. Right, but I'm just saying the outside, this part of the stuff around here. But there's cameras all around. There are sensors.

This thing's covered in sensors. You could paint it yellow, I bet. Agree to disagree. I'm not going to do it because I think I'll mess with the camera. You're not doing it to mine. You have to be a confident painter, I think, for that. Well, somebody do that out there in the audience. Mod your headset.

Someone would want that. I don't think that's so crazy. Can you make it just display the lyrics of bruce springsteen's jungle land i mean that look that's why i've got the developer strap because i want to get jungle land on there okay good good good yourself a jungle land pass all right well van we're gonna let you go and uh we're gonna do a quick end of ep check-in with the sector keeper thank you van and uh let's see if we can get him in here. All right, say hi to the keeper for me. We will. We will.

Thanks. Yeah, have a good trip. Okay, sector keeper. Boys, boys, you did it. You did it. Thank you. And thank you, Van. Yeah, it was fun.

We liked this one. This one was pretty fun. We liked this one. This was pretty good. No one got sick, huh? No, no, no. No, no. That's great.

Yeah. You covered Pat O'Brien. Yeah. Bob Marley, a tribute to freedom. Yeah, yeah. We tributed Freedom on it. And of course, City Walk's Rising Star, the live band karaoke bar.

You can't forget it if you've been there. It's the best. Yeah. So, yep. Wait, wait, wait, boys. You know, this was the same day about as the Margaritaville movie. Yeah, I remember all the margaritaville

we like hit a wall there basically great like yeah like yeah we all just kind of went back to the hotel mike right mike you you did the velocicoaster after eating two hamburger patties most of the patties i ate yeah yeah i did a different place i guess but yeah yeah but we just like we got like a tip that like, because we were going to do this and we were going to sing, but when we heard it's like really hard to get up there. Yeah, that's one thing. Yeah, well, okay.

So yeah, I mean, of course, singing with a live band would be cool, but then we heard like, you got to wait all night. It's like a random order. It just seemed like a hassle. We didn't do it, okay? I'm sorry. You didn't do it. You didn't do City Walk. No, somebody told us it would be impossible for us to sing, okay?

Don't you realize what you've done, boys? Who cares? What do you mean, what have we done? We haven't done anything. We haven't done any live band karaoke. It doesn't matter. You created a new rift in the multiverse. What?

Because we didn't sing. What's happening to this room, you guys? Just because we didn't sing Pour Some Sugar on Me in a live band karaoke? Nobody said Don't Stop Believin'? You didn't sing Sweet Caroline, boys? Oh, come on. You didn't sing Cracklin' Rosie? I can see the riffs.

There's some tears. There's a lot of indecipherable colors and goons. Jason, you promised me you said you were going to do Gong Gong style. I crashed down in bed. He didn't even do the little dance. He didn't dance like a horse. But who cares? Why would this all be happening?

This is what you've done. You've created a new rift. Everything's being pulled apart. I can see it now. You can, too. You're all being pulled into different multiverses. Oh, my God. The room is swirling around.

This looks horrible. This looks like one of those shitty Marvel CGI goop things. It's awful. Oh, no. This looks shitty Marvel CGI goop things. It's awful. Oh, no. This looks worse than The Flash, guys. It's really dark. That's right. Well, there's some okay scenes in The Flash, though, visually, I think.

You're still arguing that? The effects, you can't think were good? The rift I'm being pulled into, actually, the effect looks okay, I think. Oh, that was a world where they finished it all right? Don't you see? You're being split apart from each other. This isn't the time to have quick quibbles about the Flash. What do you mean?

I can barely see Mike and Jason anymore. Wait, so we're going somewhere else? We're not going to be with each other? Completely different multiverses. What? Do I at least end up with Scampi? No, then maybe in this world. I don't know.

Have you fucked Scampi in this world? I don't know. Have you fucked Scampi in this world? I don't know. He has. You can see the smile on his face. Even from back here, I can see it. This isn't the time to talk about fucking Scampi. It was just one special night. What do you want?

Harry admitted it. Right before we die, we knew we'd get it out of him. Focus, boys. Wait, can I get Mike to admit that he never thought maybe Aladar was cute? No, I'm a truthful man. Listen, listen, there's one way to save this. There's only one way to stitch up the rift. You'll have to create new Jump Points boys.

What, how? Record separate podcasts about malls next to theme parks. Go on your own, completely autonomously, your own podcast, and hope that I'll be back at some point. Wait, the only way to reunite is for us to record separate, different podcasts from our parts of the

multiverse? I'm turning to dust like Peter Parker with Iron Man. Oh no! That CGI effect looked pretty good, I thought, when I saw it at IMAX. Yeah, that one's a little better than the rest of it. The world we're in is pretty... I just can't even tell what's happening.

It seems kind of off the shelf, but oh, God. We're stretching. We're pulling apart. Pulling apart. Good luck. Jason. Jason. Jason's calling his own name.

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