Podcast: The Ride - The CityWalk Saga - Sector 12 with Paul Scheer

Episode Date: September 25, 2018

It is time to go indoor skydiving with Paul Scheer (Veep, How Did This Get Made?). The CityWalk Saga - Sector 12 consists of: Margaritaville Wetzel's Pretzels Hard Rock Cafe Retail Store iFLY Indoor Skydiving Listen to Podcast: The Ride Ad-Free on Forever Dog Plus: https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/ FOLLOW PODCAST: THE RIDE: https://twitter.com/PodcastTheRide https://www.instagram.com/podcasttheride BUY PODCAST: THE RIDE MERCH: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/podcast-the-ride PODCAST THE RIDE IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/podcast-the-ride Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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A candy thong So let's go take a walk Let's all go to CityWalk, tonight, tonight. Podcast The Ride presents The CityWalk Saga, a daily, 19-part, extremely necessary series exploring the stores, restaurants, and wonderful magic that make up universal city walk hollywood welcome to podcast the ride the city walk saga sector 12 uh i am mike carlson joining me as always jason sheridan hi and scott gerdner yep me too we have a jam-packed uh show today i feel like this is one of the heavier ones we have more of these like

huge topics that we could probably do a whole show on but we're cramming them into one this is a this is a major sector yeah and uh and a amazing a great returning guest you know you say about your great guests hide them deep deep in the bowels of a many many days people have stopped listening to the series at five or six maybe they don't even know but maybe they come back you're right maybe they go 12 looks good maybe hopefully they come back for paul sheer yeah paul sheer is back i am so excited to be in sector 12 i wouldn't have it any other way i don't want to talk about five or four. I mean, 12 was the one. If I had my eye on any of the sectors, it would be this. It's the most elusive sector of CityWalk.

In my opinion, it's kind of hidden in a corner. It doesn't get the sunlight of the tourists as much as the rest, I feel like. This is a nice change of pace because our last guest, Nick Mundy, was trying to annex things into his sector. Oh, really? It became a whole thing. Use the rules. No, no.

I like my sector a lot. I mean, we're going to spend, I would say what we agreed before the podcast, about 90 minutes on Samba, right? The Brazilian grill. We're just really going to break down that. Well, Samba is in another sector. Samba isn't in our sector. It is not in our sector. So you are not required to know anything about Samba.

Samba is in sector 14. Now, why? Because it's so geographically. The sector keep, these have been set years and years, eons ago. Oh, no, no. As I know, and in fact, maybe this is a good time to get the reminder from the sector keeper. Oh, great master, what are we talking about today?

Boys, boys, Paul, today's sector is sector 12. Margaritaville, Wetzel's Pretzels, Hard Rock Cafe Retail Store, and I fly indoor skydiving. Good luck, boys!

So it's Margaritaville, Wetzel's and I fly indoor skydiving. Good luck, boys. So it's Margaritaville, Wetzel's Pretzels, Hard Rock Cafe, retail store only, not the Hard Rock Cafe restaurant, and most importantly, maybe, I fly indoor skydiving. Yeah. So we got to build to that, I suppose. I think that's probably last,

although Margaritaville could be last as well. But whatever. Yeah, we'll build to iFly. I will say that in recapping from the Sector Keeper, I had forgotten about the Hard Rock store. Oh, yeah. Because it was such a jam-packed sector that I feel like I'm remembering it now. But it's been a big night.

Yeah, it's been a big day. And we spent a significant amount of time in that Hard Rock store. We did. We talked to the, I talked to the employees. We talked to, yeah. Well, you want to talk about it? Let's talk about it.

Yeah, so it's removed from the, it's not, as opposed to Margaritaville, which Margaritaville no longer has the retail location, though it still says store, but they took it out and put tables in. In Hard Rock Cafe cafe it's removed entirely it's outside like it's far away from the entrance to the restaurant and you cannot access it from the restaurant which is a bold move because you know someone who has visited uh

bubba gump shrimp company you got to walk through that gift shop it's very you know bank c es right i mean like you know yeah i mean here you know here you gotta exit and then go to the gift shop it's very you know bank c es right i mean like you know yeah i mean here you know here you gotta exit and then go to the gift shop which is uh that means that hard rock is so uh comfortable in the appeal of their merchandise they're like we don't even need you to walk inside because you want one of these classic hard rock shirts yeah do do they have merchandise in the restaurant as well uh my memory is they might also have some merchandise as well so it's not only that it's also just like it's an overrun like it's an embarrassment of riches when it comes for the people who like don't want to mess with the food right but want the t-shirt now i don't know if you guys can speak to this at all

this is a question i've always had there's been so many hard rock shirts that you'll see that identify a hard rock cafe in places that they're clearly not right is that like that's like a thing right like i don't know i think they're there there's a lot of locations they are everywhere and a ton of internet a ton of international okay although they've started to maybe dry up and close a little but not near that's not planet hollywood pretty dead in the water hard rock marches on i went to like the first hard rock when i was a kid because i grew up in new york city and it was it was a real event to go there that was like when like you know a dan akron would like pop in and do like a blues set or whatever you know like sure but i did ask the

guy behind the counter because the classic shirt is the white shirt with the hard like the most basic the one that you would see at like souvenir stores right and he said that is the best selling shirt he's like so much so that he sells out of them on a regular basis really he said that um a woman came in and she's like he's like i don't have them and i won't get them again until next sunday when i get my delivery he gets delivery every sunday and he's like and it's he's he said that that shirt is the reason why people come in it still has the staying power because people collect those like if they travel a lot i feel like people collect that there is god i gotta see if I can figure out who this is.

It's either like a journalist or like a Microsoft executive. Someone who was like an early adopter on Twitter. And someone found, like someone realized they, every time they traveled, they were like, in Macau, got to get my hard rock shot glass. Or got to get my hard rock shirt. And there was just dozens of these posts. Well, he, the person by the counter was also saying that the two things that people

come in for are the pins that are specific to hard rock. He's like, yes, the regular pin, like the regular shirt is always a good seller. He said, but there's two specific ones. And there was one that I actually had my eye on.

It was a film camera that is shooting out the word Hard Rock. He said that's only available at Universal Studios because of the specific nature of it. And then there's a drama mask, like a happy, sad drama mask. And that is also exclusive to the club, the Hard Rock Club, the Universal Club. Paul, this begs the question, are you a pinhead well you know we we really got into it there because it seems like hard rock got in on this uh this pin craze

so much so that they have a whole pin section yeah it's a ton of black which then delves into seemingly some double entendre if you're always on the lookout for new ways to poke prick stab and stick it to your style then maybe you should be a pinhead and this plaque goes on and on and on and i guess relevant to theme park world that this is i guess uh maybe perhaps inspired by the disney thing i i don't know why yeah i feel like people feel like if you have exclusive pins you have to get them or you're missing out on something it's a collectible mentality of like we need to get all of these yeah it's weird i don't know that's that's the thing that has stuck around almost at disney because they've had little toy like little vinylmation toys but they got they

seem to be phasing those out a little bit yeah but like the pins remain that does seem to be like a very consistent collectible item for adults i i'm often disturbed by seeing older people with their pin books at disneyland you open up on some sort of barrel and then children approach garbage can garbage can yeah and there's a there's a lot of trading and it feels like it it's gone to a seedier side than it originally was intended i believe like the idea was that you were wearing a lanyard and you might have a couple on there and then you would pass somebody and hey i like that pin and then you would switch pins but now it seems like a much more of a like a marketplace yeah like a dirty marketplace you guys know about the hacks you can buy bulk lots of pins like 25 to 100 pins on amazon for like 25 bucks or something your eyes are getting all shifty when

you're talking about this and then you just take them to the parks and you trade with cast members for ones you really want so you get a randomized assortment of like real pins and for like a fraction of the price wait so what are you where are you buying them bulk you buy them on like amazon you buy like a lot of 25 for maybe like 25 are they real disney pins real disney okay so then the cast members are forced into this bartering yeah or if you go to a shop and say like oh do you have any pins to trade sometimes they'll have a little display they keep behind the counter interesting interesting goal of this being combative and trying to like i outthink the system i wish i kept my original pins because i when i went on

one trip i had a an mgm studios hat and i put a bunch of like roger rabbit pins on there and it was very specific to disney now i'm like oh oh, those would have been worth a sweet, sweet coin. You know, now, yeah. Geez, wow. Yeah, that's all exploded. That's like the only consistent, I feel like, collectible. Like that's still money. Like everything else I feel like has its ups and downs.

But that's only been on the rise for whatever reason. And you think that the hard rock is, I mean, it's hard because you wouldn't be you wouldn't be walking around the hard rock trying to pin trade this is only for your own personal gratification and satisfaction that you would have like a wall of hard rock pins like this is like you know and and i could see someone who like also has like a tequila and hot sauce collection sure showing off their uh hard rock they're mr worldwide 2017 pitbull collaboration do any of our listeners have a collection of hard rock cafe pins please post them i would love to see them because i used to collect the hard rock cafe shirts that had original artwork by musicians on them those short-lived t-shirt things it was like

you know the lead singer of crash test dummies designed this hard rock cafe whoa stone temple pilots have their own shirt and it was sort of like uh in the mix of the jerry guys and jerry garcia was like making ties and that nature but it was how many did you have i had about five or six because you know just sort of like well this is an exclusive shirt i got to get on i gotta get get in on this did um do you think that the era of the hard rock organization having relationships with the current rock stars has waned like because i don't i i feel like i walked in there and into those restaurants in the 90s and thought well they've you're clearly in league with people of that nature and now i don't

know because like who's on the wall now is the the bass player from corn monkey shaffer well i looked at that i feel i feel like the gift shop had the lower tier memorabilia. Oh, yeah. Because it was sort of like, that's not where you're going. And then I'm also like, do you feel any special anymore when someone comes up to you and you're like, hey, great set tonight. Korn killed it. Can we have that guitar for the merch store at Hard Rock Cafe LA? Do you feel like who does that? Who's collecting these things?-huh you know is there

a you know i don't know is there a place you have to go yeah who is the broker yeah i would read a big like article or oral history where all that stuff comes from because i've also heard the rumor that it is a fake there's a there's a beck biography i read where he walked into a hard rock cafe and something was labeled beck and he's like not as far as i know so like yeah some guitar and it was not he didn't even recognize the guitar we didn't you want we walked in a couple it might have been three months ago and you pointed at something on the wall you go who's that and the guy behind the counter went i don't know like i think that was about are you there was one is one is chiodos derrick frost from chiodos and i'm sorry if i'm the chiodos might be a great band i just don't

know them and uh what's the other one a trey you don't know a trey you yeah these are the true ones i've heard of a trey you um do you guys think that we should open up like the stream uh the stream shack a podcast themed restaurant you can like sit under like uh some watercolors of mark maron's cats you could you know see joe rogan's weights whatever it is you know a replica of the earwolf table everyone's eating on signed Earwolf tables. Look at that display case. It's a collar from Bosch, Sean Clements' dog.

It shows up on Hollywood Handbook a lot. You know, you could sit under the image of Dustin from Feral Audio, and you could read his tale of woe. Oh, the full podcast. The actual manifesto. Yeaho yeah yeah yeah right and then at the end you can pay with mike mitchell's actual credit card because it was actually stolen from him and he hasn't noticed that seemed like something that would sure stream shack jason jason's working there

yes i'm laundering i'm waiting tables and laundering money when um when i first ate at planet hollywood one of the first times again it was in new york city was like one of the first i think it was the first planet hollywood i was so excited because i went there one day and anthony michael hall was just eating like lunch there. And I was like, whoa, celebrities do come here. And I thought that was a real cool thing. And I feel like we could all do a shift at the Stream Shack. Oh, yeah, sure.

Just to kind of mix it up. Well, and it starts the legend that, you know, the big stars like us, you know, really are. They actually do. this is their place yeah and uh it would be great to you know maybe oh the stream studio i mean that would be like the thing or it'd be like a studio you have to have like live shows there so you could be munching down on uh burgers and listening to great you know interviews and this would all like stop happening as time went on like how espn zone used to do live broadcasts and then after two years like man and now yeah let's not get out there but

we start the well we need a mascot and it's interesting because we we learned a little bit about the hard rock cafe mascot which i did not even understand was a thing i googled this right before we started a big you thought i was just looking up the sector i was looking up oh this is a thing that given more time we would have researched for days yeah just being hit with this information so yeah we're gonna do our best here but we do not have all the information on the official doll doll of hard rock cafe she's a mascot she's just a it's i would say it's the mascot is personified by the doll right i can't find her in other media off the top of my or very quickly her name is harper ray yes and we've gone through a lot of changes over the years apparently yes and she's different so so she's a she's in a sort of a barbie

like box um she is very similar to barbie the one we saw she was like she had a drum and she had like a cool scarf and she had a shirt that said i'm with the band with the hard rock logo under it can i read what the back says yes please it says hamburg cancun bali rome harper ray travels the world playing to packed houses at the coolest venues from munich Macau, Bogota to Boston. Harper Ray rocks every hard rock with a uniquely signature style. She's dressed differently at every hard rock, too. It says music is in her DNA. She was raised on late 70s blues rock and 80s metal punk.

And she hears layers of rhythm in everything. That's a weird thing to say. And Harper Ray is a drummer. Sorry. And Harper Ray is a drummer. Sorry. And Harper Ray's drummer is a true rocker, never happier when she's improvising a drum solo. Where will Harper Ray show up next?

Straight up typo, right? Yeah, right? She is with the band or she is in the band? It should be like and harp it should be like she hears a rhythm and everything Harper Ray is a drummer

oh I guess it says and Harper Ray's drummer is a true rocker that's like saying that there's somebody else that we are not familiar with

like who's not available for purchase who doesn't even have a name and why and the single drum also strange for someone with such an inherent rhythm sense right she doesn't have a a name uh and why and the single drum also strange for someone with such an inherent rhythm sense right she doesn't have a sense you need more than one drum is it

a snare or a tom it looks kind of like a tom to me kind of kind of thick it's kind of a yeah and she's got two sticks i will say maybe i'm maybe i'm being sexist and i really don't want to be but she's wearing a shirt that says i'm with the band yeah that's what i she's in the band right so in yeah yeah like and i get like why that may be ironic but when you look at the way that she looks you would think oh she's like my first thought was oh is she like a groupie like that's what she uh-huh that's what she um appears to be. You see, there's different, okay, so this is a different Harper Ray. I found her on eBay, okay,

and she's wearing what basically looks like a Disney Bounder outfit, you know, like a rockabilly girl kind of a thing, and she's got a guitar. So this one very much makes it seem more like she's in the band versus just a fan of the band. And by the way, I guess Harper Ray doesn't keep the same instrument

no apparently but maybe that's the confusion maybe she comes with a drum but that's for another character in the harper ray verse which i was looking i was like looking online to try to find if like harper ray has like a little sister named midge or something or like summer which oh i'm looking at one i don't know what store this is, but I'm looking at a guitar one and totally different hair, kind of black with blue streaks. This one, right? Well, he said... Yeah.

Yeah, it is. Yeah. And this one says collectible pin included. Oh, yeah. That would earn all your business. There's one here, too. Yeah. He said that she has changed her look many a time.

I can only find two looks for her. I can, too only find two looks i can too only two ray so he said that yeah she's she's changed looks either for some reason people don't love harper ray like we all do immediately and they're not like putting her old dolls on ebay or there really are only two versions of harper ray i think there's two and this one the one that we're looking at looks more like katie perry uh and the one that we saw um i don't even know if she has a analogous person so that harper ray like barbie box reminded me of like a thing we paul you noticed earlier um there were some la specific pins oh yeah um the harper ray bar like box like yeah very clearly skirting around like look it looks like a barbie box right very clearly skirting copyright laws

just like those uh other pins were at the hard rock store uh of like dodgers Stadium with no Dodgers logo. That was a bizarre choice. It was like co-opting LA landmarks, but not giving the dude to the landmark. Right. Because that costs money. It really do. What was the other one? The Universal?

The Universal, but it was kind of. It was a large dinosaur that we hypothesized was either from Back to the Future of the Ride or Jurassic Park the Ride. We didn't know. And then a roller coaster that simply does not exist dinosaur that we hypothesize is either from back to the future of the ride right or jurassic park the ride we didn't know and then a roller coaster that simply does not exist at universal studios which actually makes me go why doesn't universal studios have like a real like simple roller coaster i mean the hippogriff ride i guess is like some version of it but i mean it would be really smart for them to just pop in uh they have. They have the one in Orlando that's very generic, the Rip Ride Rocket.

I like that one. Yeah, I'm just saying it's not. Because you pick music. Yeah, but it's not themed or anything. But it seems simple enough. It does seem like there's a real opportunity to make something that starts up on top of the hill and go down the hill. Oh, yeah.

What? Is it? Maybe it's a neighbor's issue. I think it's a neighbor's. They're right on top of. Oh, you're right. Because the roller coasters are loud. That that being said they're running fireworks now at night like there's a they're being very lax about stuff i mean you know you know me i'm just

just waiting and hoping for that tonight show ride to get over there i mean come on yeah let's get that in our fingers you know um yeah hang out with the barbershop quartet i think we should skip right to the seth meyers ride they have allen oh yeah okay yeah why not we don't want to clone we don't want that we're always complaining about clones look i'll take a morning joe ride if you want to do mika and jose garbaro if you want to keep it in the mbc family uh a lot of places to go yeah we were talking about the vr experiences you could have on the vr episode where you could just do all the shows you could have a vr experience with everyone that would be amazing 30 rock yeah um hard rock cafe where i would say that i think what i like about it is it feels uh

or the gift shop i should say right no we can't talk about yeah it it is it feels, or the gift shop, I should say. No, we can't talk about the gift shop. Yeah, it feels exclusive. It feels like you're going to get some cool stuff out of there, whether it's jewelry, which they do sell. Scott, you look great in the leather jacket. You know, I was just looking at photos. I don't think I look bad at all.

Yeah, that's a good look. Actually, I'm a man. Maybe I should get that jacket. You might be joining an IMF team my question about that jacket is you have to agree on some level that you want a leather jacket right yeah which i just don't know if i'm willing to right that's a it's a big it's a big person but then once you've committed to that you're going like well i'm gonna get a hard rock one i'm not gonna get like i'm not gonna commit to uh like just a nice leather jacket like that you can go like it's odd that you would want it on brand yeah yeah and if you're gonna choose a brand for a

leather jacket obviously taz clearly the only way to go yeah of course uh i think maybe a lot of hard rock merch is bought and not worn or used in any yeah i i'm around shocked that because this is a brand i think you was i realized now there's some crossover now between both of our episodes scott and i's episode of doughboys scott had a hard rock cafe item our redevelopment and i think you were saying on that episode like what is this brand yeah who loves this brand so when you're talking about the merchant like not only just a t-shirt fine a leather jacket that really proclaims that you're a fan of the hard rock well here's i'll add to this and say that i think that we all share one thing because my doughboys was bubba gum shrimp company oh yes the same idea who feels like i need to uh immortalize this meal with

merch i i i bought a shirt there that i thought was hilariously funny and the i i wore it once uh it was an election shirt i wore it on election day and it said, vote for Gump. And it was a special election themed shirt. But then it looked too close to vote for Trump. And so I felt really self-conscious about it. I put that right next to my adult swim when I was down there visiting them. They made these make make uh fish center great again hats so it was just like just trump hats but they just replaced the thing but again it requires a real fine look at the thing you can't just glance and when you glance at these

things they elicit a different response than you want requires a knowledge of the daily adult swim streaming only show fish center yes which is a very very uh niche kind of like if decker and on cinema weren't on uh obscure enough for you if you want to go even deeper in streaming comedy have you guys seen uh the adult swim streaming show called like pitch session where like they like basically just like take callers pitches for tv shows and then they have like walter uh newman who is one of the adult swim development execs like will then like kind of give them feedback uh it's uh that you really are pitching the shows yeah would they ever do it probably not yeah so i guess that makes it like okay it's it's not like nefarious yeah but it is like if you have a good idea it could be that could be just whipped away from you yeah right yeah yeah yeah um well that's why we

should save all of our pitches from the show when we pitch great ideas we just throw them out into the air and like that when we just i worried about we just talked about that uh uh start to start tours the story of rex and star tours but it's it's sully it could be as far as you want to go it can be sully inspired could be sully shot for shot and uh but with rex yeah yeah and i'm worried that's just gonna get taken well i mean i would be freaked out if I were you guys because I know that in Hong Kong, Disneyland they just opened that Apple Dumpling Gang thing.

Oh yeah. Oh wow. That fast? They were able to get enough kids and do the adoption thing. And apparently they can turn over a hundred adoptions in an hour hour which is good but it is you know they want to kind of upgrade it a little more laws involving children there

that was the key why were we pitching it for anaheim man and the ride i heard now that i'm now that paul brings it up i remember and it starts in shanghai dis. That's where the ride loads. And it connects to Hong Kong. So it's hours and hours long. That's a bummer. I think I've had a breakthrough here. I've answered my own question. I think Hard Rock, because you're saying Bubba Gump, and that makes a lot more sense to me to buy a Bubba Gump shirt. Really?

For whatever reason. Is it a Hard Rock shirt? Yeah, because it seems more of a novelty. It seems so strange to have that. It seems more specific. But isn't that for us? Yes. Okay.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. So that's more for us. But I think in general, because you could end up with some joke or his weird philosophy. Right. Even a stupid is a stupid does shirt makes more sense to me than what is Hard Rock saying. I think the fact that it's so generic is the strength of hard rock hard rock is just like i'm wearing a nike shirt even though nike is an athletic thing but it's just as generic it means nothing like it's for a dad to where he

feels comfortable it says hard rock it's nothing weird but it falls into the same category that the hard rock park fell into which is like music is not like popular music is not that anymore like when we look about you know our the mascot uh i've forgot her name now already hayley ray hayley ray i'm just gonna call her harper lee harper harper ray who is like into like blues and rock like that's it's almost like saying like harper ray is not of this world or of this musical like that's not i mean that music is slowly yeah dying out in popularity like it will always be around but like right it's not the hot music so it wouldn't like i think when hard rock first started in the 80s it was like everything was yeah the cool hard rock but now it's different yeah yeah like so they had a leg in like 90s like you were like stone temple pilots yeah grunge stuff and

you've honored the classic masters because they led to this but now what did 90s grunge lead to they led to nothing it's gone i would think that people feel less connected to jimmy hendrix now than you know than than mo you know i think he's i think he's you know i think he's just like losing popularity or at least my mind i grew up like the cool yeah the doors of jimmy hendrix yeah i don't think kids are like going back to jimmy hendrix what do you see on any show on the vmas or the tonight show or anything that is well this guy's clearly hendrix inspired right yeah yeah so there's more of the like current you know current r&b hip-hop is is more is influenced by older r&b hip-hop but like

there's no the rock lineage in terms of on a popular scale seems like done yeah for sure so so yeah this is this is a comfortable shirt for baby boomer dads and moms to wear but in addition i think it's such a generic brand and a generic logo that anyone can wear it and it's literally just like wearing a haynes a blank haynes shirt or something that just says like music a a shirt that said music on it. It's almost like you're less, yeah, you're less, like you're not comfortable wearing the band that you actually like.

You're like, I need to just get something that represents music that I like. It would be like us like wearing a shirt just to say like funny comedy. Sure, you know, and then that would be like, oh, you like funny comedy? Like, cool. Yeah. comedy sure like you know and that would be like oh you like funny comedy like cool like yeah

that's always like well like like funny or die almost started to feel i started feeling like what is this brand like because there's not a clear besides that will ferrell's part of it like anybody ever like all the comedians all did funny or die videos and then what right what is it that that's theirs besides sometimes well feral well i think like the thing of funny or die was so great at and still great at is like finding humor and like the kia or uh you know ziploc bags and things like that you know and then the simple thing the five miller light spots i did in two days for the price of a half spot. Nissan Juke. The Red's Apple Ale.

That kind of stuff. The lighter side of all of that. There's humor to be found in every credit. The classic Remington rifle. Oh boy. Well, should we keep marching on? Should we keep rocking on? Should we rock on?

How about we rock past Wetzel's Pretzels? Well, I want to just say one thing, too. We may lead right into our, if we go to Margaritaville, because I think there's a similar idea here, right? Margaritaville, I would argue, is the best merch of the three. Bubba Gump, Hard Rock, and this. Because Margaritaville represents,'m a jimmy buffett fan this is like an out on offshoot of that but i could at least buy that your but your it's like

another level of merch for someone you like like you know what i'm saying it's it's it's it has a built-in audience more than the other two yeah very specific he's also kind of co-opted island breezy lifestyle. I think there's probably people who like the restaurant and who are not necessarily even too much about Jimmy Buffett, the guy. Really?

You think that that's two different sects of people? People who like Margaritaville and people who like Jimmy Buffett? I think there might be people who... There's people on the outliers, but there has to be a crossover at least of people like oh i like that margaritaville song mostly it's across but i think that's the way he's made it bigger than right yes the brand yeah you're right the brand itself now is so just insanely large like insanely

huge and pervasive the restaurant i feel like he that's how he became elevated yeah but it's not just these songs but it as i get older and i understand things more i feel like people feel really like they're cutting loose when they have like margarita right and so like simply by calling your place a margarita like margarita bill which is a song obviously and but uh i feel like it's like let's go there we're gonna have margarita like it's like you you what like it's almost like now we're gonna cut like it's like it's a it's a perfect thing it's not like it's not like jimmy buffett food it's like it's you're basically calling people in to get shit face like you're saying like let's have margaritas like i feel like people like

always want margaritas i don't know if that's like yeah it's a it's not a right it's not like a beer is like a kind of a just throwing back a margarita it suggests that you're somewhere that's like exotic or it's a little sugar having fun drinks before you're sipping and you're you're taking your time with it it's right it's not a stressful beer no and a place that names itself margaritaville we're gonna probably have the best margaritas like that's like, that's the other thing, too. It's like, I can go to a bar and get a margarita, but this place is, I mean, it's on the wall.

It's there. We know they're going to make the best. Did it deliver as promised, did you think? Well, this is my first time in a Margaritaville. So this is, you know, I was taking it all in. And I have a couple questions. Yeah. As I get to the margarita, I just want to want to like work up to it for one second of course so it's interesting there's

a lot of tvs there a lot of tvs that you would see like a sports center but uh it's all jimmy buffett mostly it's like once there's a beaver song okay real mismatchy yes the modern music makes no sense but they're only jimmy buffett on the tv there's no bieber videos on that tv right what was playing while the bieber song was on but some i think once every six songs it'll be maybe it'll be different it was a pretty buffett heavy rotation tonight yeah which is for the best there jason has fallen asleep you're right yeah no i'm good too much margarita well the the idea that like the the videos i was really impressed by because they look very much like heavy metal rock and roll parking lot videos

it's like there was one video where everyone was having fun it looks like all like back like behind the scenes footage but one video of like one of the fans like in a leg like a boot like they broke their leg or their foot and it's just like they're just like dancing and like the camera just pans down to like a boot like uh like not like you know a corrective boot because they broke their leg it's like oh all right this is like it's it's just kind of showing all sides of the jimmy bubba fan yeah this so there's a there is a documentary i believe still on netflix and i forget the name of it but it's about Parrotheads,

and it's produced. It's called Parrotheads. Is that what it's called? Yeah, it's Parrotheads. You've seen it as well, right? It's on a bunch of them. And it is. But it's all about Gulf.

What's the Gulf and Western? Yeah, and Jerry Diaz. Oh, wow. All these different, what do they call them? Chop rocks? Do they call them chop rock guys? Maybe. Chop rock.

They're all like like most of them are buffett imitators essentially and they have i should look up some jerry diaz music but the whole thing is a propaganda piece for parrot heads like they're trying i my interpretation of it and it's not a bad it's interesting some of the stories or whatever but my interpretation of it is they're trying to tell you that parrot heads are not just a bunch of drunken asshole baby boomers you know we have a lot of diversity here there's a lot of inclusion uh and then there's a lot of like what good things for the community the parrot heads do when they put on their different concerts so i do wonder if maybe it's like and then yeah take a picture of a guy with a cast. We don't care if you got a cast.

Everyone's welcome. Well, there's a Jimmy Buffett officer wearing a shirt that said Hank. What's the relevance of that? Oh, that was, what song came on? It was like a honky tonk song came on. I don't know if that was like a Hank Williams shirt. Oh, hey, good looking.

Right, yeah, good looking. Right. Yeah, right. What you got cooking? And there was like six of them covering it. Is that an original Jimmy Buffett song? No. No. That's a Hank.

Okay. Yeah. I just wanted, yeah. So, Jerry, so just real quick. So, there's all these different Buffett imitators. So, I highly recommend watching this. Mostly on his record label. Oh, yeah.

Some of them are. Some of them? Yeah. But this, I don't know that this gentleman is. so i highly recommend watching on his record label oh yeah some of them are yeah uh but this i don't know that this gentleman is his name is jerry diaz and his his band is called hannah's reef and here are some songs that he wrote uh in this vein of jimmy buffett beer in the cooler on a beach in mexico down to the islands and welcome to senorita ville amazing they're all like just all people this is like if harry potter fan fiction was as popular or like the tenth as popular as harry potter interesting because it's like i was watching him on stage and i had no no offense to jimmy buffett at all

actually i but i was surprised that like he is dressed like if you were to take it if you were to grab a random sampling of dads like uh like you know mid 40s to 60s right um just a random family across the country i think that jimmy buffett would blend in if you if you had no faces but just like what they were wearing like Like he's one time, like almost like wearing cargo shorts and like a little Hawaiian shirt. Like he, one thing was tucked in and he's not like,

it's interesting. He looks like one of them. He does. So here's, I look, I'm here just to start out. I talked a lot about this on that Doughboys episode.

I got very fascinated with this whole thing. Cause it's, and I follow all the social media of Jimmy Buffett. just to start out i talked a lot about this on that dope boys episode i got very fascinated with this whole thing because it's and i follow all the social media of jimmy buffett um it started honestly it started when i i could play this song i'll play this song in a second um and i'm sort of fascinated with what you're saying because i think at this point his whole life is a calculation to maintain the appearance of this man who surfs like every day right where's the clothes you're talking about chances are though he sells the clothes he's wearing as well he's like tommy bahama but another yeah yeah exactly so like i think that like his instagram they just there's

one they have one day a month they go over to a beach they have 12 different sets of clothes they change them in and out of clothes and he's like going surfing again hank fans up and then like it's a different shirt they get him in and out and it's like they post these periodically through the week and then this is a theory i have then they rent a restaurant and he's like crab legs gumbo best gumbo in town they just get a lot of a lot of pictures of him doing stuff just to make you think that this man is just always in a hammock or in the water or or eating crab legs or eating gumbo somewhere and like he runs an empire he is busy he's never alone

they're always documenting him he is busy in like, yeah, when you're saying he's dressed like Kevin Hart of Trap Rock. Yeah, for sure. Every second is a chance to be perpetuating the brand. He lives and dies by that 12-inch iPad Pro that he is often photographed with. Yes. Like, he's always, like, working on it. Right. Sometimes they show you behind the curtain of, like, oh, here's he's always like working on it. Right. Sometimes they show when they show you behind the curtain of like,

look, Oh, here's he's in the office. He is always on this iPad. So they will show you once in a while, him in like a meeting, but he is, there's so many videos and posts.

I will say this, Paul, if you want to see him a lot, follow a movie producer, Frank Marshall, because Frank Marshall, who's married to kathleen kennedy is his like best friend okay and i follow frank marshall and he is with jimmy buffett by the way

it says it right here when i typed in frank marshall's name followed by you is that true representing me right there i had like the top one like wow oh that's funny he is with buffett like so much more than his wife honestly that's calculated too i don't know no frank i don't think it's calcule brand just calibrated that's just if you want to see pictures of jimmy buffett i don't think frank has a handler frank just like loves jimmy and hangs out with him to see pictures of him that's the way i want to see this old man all the time so how many followers do you think jimmy buffett has on social media versus how many margaritaville is that where you're going or just

just because i'm thinking of him as what we just talked about like this guy who is like you know so on instagram how many followers do you think he is probably low that lower than i think 150 000 okay anybody else i hmm do you get lower or higher i i don't know at 200 i'll go higher all right uh what's that 300 000 okay 171 weird but let's see because because part of me is like oh you know what i bet you it's because he's not probably doing that much on social media ultimately because his fan base is probably not on Instagram. That would make a lot of sense. The younger user base, I believe, is Instagram.

But he, it wasn't his entire rise in fandom, social media before social media. It was truly the definition of viral, just person to person spreading the gospel. So does he really need to be pushing it all the time? But he might also be splitting his fan base because he's got his account. He's got the Margaritaville restaurant account,

the Margaritaville clothing account, right? Aren't these split up? Yeah, Margaritaville itself has less than he does. It's got like 100,000. Buffett, too, wasn't even big till the 90s oh yeah he didn't charge the 90s for parrot head was coined in the 90s uh and that's when the whole thing exploded into like yeah he became a big touring yeah when assholes were and this is this is record shitting in the parking lot and not cleaning it up, which is like a couple of years ago.

What was the city? It was on the East Coast somewhere where there's like the police were like, please, if you make makeshift, do not use makeshift toilets in our parking lot and then leave them there. I mean, it sounds like a Philadelphia thing. I wouldn't put it past it. He didn't chart until Alan Jackson

had him on five o'clock somewhere wow yeah by the way five o'clock somewhere was a great um uh piece in margaritaville a big giant clock that is stuck perennially at five o'clock and it kind of looks like it's moving yeah but it's yeah yeah and it's like a clock's like a lime yeah we should mention that we did sit in the giant boat man yeah because we were occupied with what we had a place to ourselves that was great parties i've really dreamed of being in the big boat yeah they give you a lot all those restaurants i mean there's like it's it's disappointing to be at a boring table because there are so many great other

options like tiki booths and stuff like that the worst would be the merch store it's not a merch store i mean to be in that like what am i in i mean that is such an anomaly yeah i've never seen this before in any other margaritaville they open when they open there was a little store not a huge store about the size of the bubblegum store and you really didn't see a lot of people in there. So they yanked the store out and filled in more tables because I guess they figured they'd make more. But oddly kept the sign up, which seems so easy to take right off the wall.

Oh, yeah, it must be very easy. Just one of the words. You don't have to take the whole thing off. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's a good gift shop in Orlandogarita in orlando margaritaville oh it's huge when you talk about this is like the real mecca i mean well look i've said it many times this this is the margaritaville that has jimmy's real plane real life plane the hemisphere dancer the one that was shot at by the jamaican government okay he was not on board i believe

bono was on board at the time wow and that's why he wrote the song jamaica mistaka right and i i believe you might have told me this because that sounds familiar to me and there's no one else probably you're told that musicality of you saying this i feel like you've heard it seven or eight times yeah maybe listen to it if not i've been told it directly but i and i now fear i'm repeating myself but to say that I'm also a fan of Jimmy Buffett's appearances on Hawaii Five-O, where he plays a pilot and a good friend of the lead character. Frank Bama. Yeah. And they go to North Korea in an episode.

He flies them into North Korea. Wow. Geez. I heard a story about somebody who was on Hawaii Fiveaii 50 and messed up a line and then one of the regular he was just on that episode and then one of the regulars said hey man forget about it it's okay it's a y50 it's a little of a shit thing it's really good i think things are a little more chill when you film in hawaii yes yeah yeah and with yeah with real money uh the uh the we wouldn't we didn't really partake in the food you had the uh i had the i've had probably nine or ten things on the menu in my

lifetime okay uh the cheeseburger in paradise i've had the cheeseburger paradise solid chain restaurant cheeseburger yeah uh i've had you know like the turkey version of it fine it's fine i had the ahi uh tuna or what was it poke nachos yeah and those were good very salty but pretty good for you know chain restaurant uh and they have regional stuff at some of these margaret because the florida one is like fresh conch fritters oh but that is which i that's the most serious anyone's ever said that phrase i they're delicious i've had them a number of times what are you talking about conch what's a good conch i only know that it's a shell yeah it's a good conscious what's inside the shell it's used in florida cooking oh

but i don't believe it travels very well i would imagine a clam consistency very similar to a clam very similar to a clam for yeah the conch shell mince there's a thing i forgot what it is um i felt like this place uh definitely keeps the spirit alive i mean it's a big one it's definitely a big one they have a whole outdoor dining area with a fire pit and nice like uh like lounge chairs a shark fin shaped fire oh see that you see it from above and the big but the big issue i think with the with this margaritaville location is it replaced what used to be was an arcade right was that place jillian's yeah kind of a ripoff dave and busters yeah yeah and that was two stories but which made me think this will be a sprawling that's what we were all fantasizing

about that it would be something there's this big stairwell by the fire pit that leads up to nothing you get to a locked door oh and that's a big bummer if it was a massive two-story because we talked what i would have been last episode, about Buca di Beppo. Cool thing about that Buca di Beppo, sprawling, many little rooms and pockets. Almost like it was a restaurant that... We got so popular, we just had to keep on expanding. Kicked someone out of their apartment upstairs and broke in there. Yeah, yeah.

But this one, yeah, it feels a little claustrophobic. Yeah, that's the problem. Sealing as opposed to the vegas location very high ceiling in vegas yeah yeah low ceiling in orlando but the kind of the shack kind of porch thing is very charming and inside is inside it's got a high ceiling but yeah i like the low ceilings because i could look at the artwork on the ceiling where one was a uh a cloud in the shape of a salt shaker sure that was one of those uh is is weed like a part of the jimmy buffett culture yes a little bit it is more drinking he's he's very much on record uh supporting legalized weed stuff on his youtube channel yeah there was a video of him in Florida where he's like, I want to support Prop 91,

like legalize marijuana in Florida. So he is sort of behind that. Got it, okay. His audience is a bunch of drunken high fools. Right. So sure, I think that has to be a big thing. Obviously, they don't sell weed yet legally in these places, but I have to imagine that's coming soon, maybe.

Yeah. But I feel like it's in a again a very baby boomer way where it's like they're mostly drinking boat drinks but a little weed when the kids go to bed yeah like a toke we all take a toke and pass it around and no one gets too out of control secret dad weed is very charming yeah that's oh yeah that's that's wonderful mild mild i feel like they should start making like cbd infused cocktails so it's like oh yeah it is weed in here but it's also like it's not gonna get me high just give me that at margaritaville yeah it should maybe like have like a cbd kind of however i don't think city walk is open to that kind of thing. We talked about Voodoo Donuts, which is like in Portland is very,

this is clearly acknowledging weed culture and this one looks like a dick. This is a gay rights themed donut. None of that made it to LA. Why does CityWalk think, I guess it's a family. They're so conservative. Serve so many demographics. It ends up sterilizing. But you know what?

Halloween Horror Nights, when things get a little more dull, maybe the CityWalk locations need to get into the spirit, too. Well, I also feel like you are entering at your own risk at halloween horror nights because it's like they put a warning it's like now you come in here it this is an adult night it's an adult night you know like i feel like city walk can never do like this is like city walk is almost like independent of halloween horror nights yeah yeah there'd be no way to go morning if you come to this voodoo donuts there'll be a donut that has two men kissing drawn on it or something like you can't do that the thing that i always found

so disturbing is like during halloween horror nights they do those like crazier shows like it was like the trek fucks the donkey and the 3d show it's a really vulgar, vulgar show. Yeah, they really were. But it's, you know, it's like kind of replacing that Bill and Ted kind of vibe. But no liquor in the park. Like, no one's getting fucked up in the park. Not in Hollywood.

No. Not in Hollywood. In Orlando, all bets are off. But no, they do sell liquor, though, right? Don't they have beer in Universal?

Do they? I thought they had, I think I was, maybe beer. I was just there like two weeks ago. And I remember seeing like cold Heinekens in, um, a bin. Yeah.

You can buy it in the day. Do they stop selling alcohol? I think they might stop at Horror Nights cause it's such a young populace, local populace. I've been there every year for about five or six years and gotten private guides and stuff for it like that's i bring in a big enough group that we get our own guide and they're two halloween yeah and it's the best wow you have to like pack it in and you gotta like do it now you gotta like what's the what's the highlight uh the highlight is you get a good oral tour of halloween horror nights but then you also uh they know how to I've never moved around that park

in a more efficient way it's like boom boom boom boom they start in a very weird way and they just wrap you in and out I always find that park to be a little bit of a nightmare to

move around especially with that big especially when Horror Nights kind of goes into like the uh like streets right yeah so they they are very adept at going this is how we do the whole thing and you leave and they kind of like edge you out of like don't do that one it's not that good and this is do this one our waitress tonight was very helpful in that respect to margaritaville was very good about like yeah that one's a little sweet that one's a little like there was one or two drinks she's just like don't yeah don't do it don't do it so then she was to her yeah pretty pretty uh uh give it giving with information but not like really

dragging anything she's like well if you like if you if that's what you're looking for, try this. I asked her, should I get a key lime pie or a strawberry shortcake? And she was like, look, a strawberry shortcake is good, but they put the ice cream on top of the bread, and the bread gets hard, and it's a little cold. Just so you know. Wow, very good. Honest response.

The problems of the... Which, by the way, I did key lime pie. We both did key lime pie. And I thought it was good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hadn't done dessert there. I liked it. The answer, sorry, yeah. I hadn't done dessert there. I liked it. The answer, sorry, is they sell alcohol at Moe's.

Oh. Just at Moe's. But you can't bring any alcohol into the mazes or anything. Okay. And, like, it seems like just at Moe's here. Okay. So, the margaritas. We all had margaritas. Yes.

A version of margarita. Yeah, I followed Mike's lead and got, what is it called? The feelin' hot, hot, hot margarita. Right version of margarita yeah i followed mike's lead and got what is it called the feeling hot hot hot margarita right okay spicy margarita spicy yeah i was surprised at how much spice it had i like a spicy drink yeah i was surprised i felt like a chain restaurant wouldn't go that spicy it was actually a little spicier than i remember having it when i had it uh a week and a half ago okay just on a leisure trip i love it so you go there not for just for journalism my friend works right over there i said let's go to margaritaville and he said yes please um so good or bad then oh uh perfectly fine

not uh not too sweet yeah uh not too much and i feel like the liquor content was a little bit high or i'm becoming more of a lightweight because i did feel like i was like oh yeah i was on an empty stomach we had just done an exciting thing too but i i as soon as i had like three sips i was like oh here we go we're in margaritaville now yeah i did like three fourths of that drink and i felt like that was a the right amount for me to do and then still drive which that's good at that point if you you want to feel like because the drinks are a little expensive you want to feel like the one is gonna kind of yeah like take you home yeah yeah uh fan of the shark fin i think what i think that was a rum uh tequila rombo and and uh yeah not too sweet rum could be a dangerous area oh i had the one particular harbor, which was all rum and fruit juices.

Are you reading the ingredients? Hmm? Are you reading the ingredients? Are you all right? I was just summarizing. Yeah. I will say that I found, I guess what my expectation of Bargaritaville was, was that we were going to get almost an aggressive cheesecake factory like

menu of drinks i was gonna see like what do you got here because this is a place where like the goal is let's have fun right and our drinks should be fun little cheeky-esque um but no it was it was a fine a fine menu of It was a lot of drinks, but I would argue that Bubba Gump has a more interesting selection of alcoholic beverages. Crazier, too. Yes. The atmosphere in there is crazier and the menu itself. Like, I ordered, I mean, it's so crazy.

I ordered a drink I thought was alcoholic and I didn't realize until I had the whole thing that it wasn't. Well, yeah, I mean, I think Bubba Gump was the first time I ever had one of those mini Coronita bottles shoved in the drink. Oh, how was that? Yeah, it was amazing. It was great. Yeah.

Because it actually lessened the taste. I think it was a margarita with a Corona stuck in. So the Corona is kind of like uh like sucking out the sweet so you kind of have this like beer rita it is i've had that before it is very good yeah my city walk places have a bottle and another bottle shoved in yeah bless him my uh buddy richie uh i i took i was like hey you know let's go uh let's go drink a margarita that'll be a fun he seemed like a guy he'd be into that and he was like a pretty hard edged after and said you know you know gotta be honest i don't think this place is happening i think it's too

far it's at the end of the right it's at the end of the whole thing as opposed to i'm thinking of bubba gumps as you say it it's in the middle it's in the hub of all the action margaret devils it is like literally you can't see it behind the hard rock you might miss it and i don't think la is really adopting jimmy buffett yeah culture could be wrong but i think that two-story thing is i i don't think i don't think uh margaret devils on the verge of a collapse or anything but but I don't know if it makes... I don't know if it's going to be a gigantic run. I feel like they should have stuck out with Jillian's because that... Well, I guess maybe it's hard because I would like a Dave & Buster's closer.

I mean, there's a Dave & Buster's nearby in Hollywood, but... It's impenetrable. Yeah, yeah. It's hard to get to. No, it's close. Hollywood and Highland, dear God. Yeah, the worst. I mean, first of all, what you guys are saying is heartbreaking,

and the idea that maybe this isn't the right spot for it. I think Hollywood and Highland would be a much better spot for margarita. Yeah. Well, they have the Cabo Wabo Cantina. The Cabo Wabo Cantina is there. I think, honestly, a better place for it is 3rd Street Promenade. That's right. Right by the water. Yes water yeah on the pier itself beach yes they were like bubba gump is there too yes now they should make it there's i've been to

the margaritaville at navy pier in chicago and it sucks oh it is small and cramped and bad and it's too far from the water and it's like dirty it's like it's so disappointing so like if they did a full-on orlando style one on the pier oh we'd be there all day we we would never leave i've been to the uh atlantic city one which i would put on par with like the vegas one like it had a nice tall ceiling it's built into the resorts casino right on the boardwalk and on the other side of the boardwalk on the beach there's a land shark lager bar and grill so he's got two and then there's the margaritaville casino area of resorts wow so and i think the thing that that has a go and because

it's a casino and it's like always open or i think maybe they closed for a couple hours in jersey but like i remember going there around christmas one year and eating there and the place was packed you see yeah yeah and that's a perfect spot yeah yeah and so like casinos the vegas ones usually crowded but uh city walk even like you know the end of summer ending summer but like tuesday night it's empty well here's what i'm gonna say it reads as an adult place if i'm a family which i would argue the majority of people in city walk are if i'm a family and i'm going where are we gonna go to eat margarita phil doesn't feel like a family establishment. Buca di Peppo feels like a family establishment.

Bump of Gump feels like a family establishment. Johnny Rockets, old classic. Even Saddle Ranch, which I think runs that gamut. Because there's a little bit of an edge to it, especially one in Hollywood. But that one was a little tamer. Yeah, that's true. I just don't feel like it calls to families i feel like yeah it calls to the the parents even though you sit in there perfectly family oriented but you might not know that yeah until you sometimes there's still

walkers making balloon animals that's fun yeah but not always you should see it in full swing sometime give it a shot with a band that is instead why go in and just hear the recording of margaritaville when you can hear a band playing margaritaville the exact same way jason and i uh this is a video that never came out that i do have a copy of that maybe i will put online someday jason and i we went to the opening of the margaritaville to cover it and saw jimmy buffett play on the stage wow he did 30 minutes there so we got to see the ultimate concert i mean that's amazing yeah yeah and we also like that same that was last year we went up there

i think all three of us on the day it's soft opened that's true we got word that it opened then we went to the press event yes that's true and then we also went back for your birthday like a month or two later so people like oh hey yeah so people started to we started to recognize uh waiters and still walkers staff has turned over though since because i haven't seen a lot of those folks. Let me ask one question. I don't mean to upset anybody here. Okay, go ahead. The difference between Cabo Wabo and Margaritaville is?

I would say it's a little more of a specific what the lifestyle is at Margaritaville. I think what the vibe is. Cabo Wabo has a similar vibe but it just feels a little more generic to me. But it's trying to do what Margaritaville does. But I don't force the logo.

Is it kind of pulling some hard rock energy? Yes. Splitting the difference. You're right, you're right, you're right. Also, the menu is primarily... I'm sure there's burgers and steaks and stuff, but it's primarily tacos, burritos, enchiladas, nachos, that sort of thing. Got it, so it's a more mexican themed yeah right um all right so that's an interesting i mean into when

you look at the rock stars behind sammy hagar jimmy buffett hagar a little more aggressive yeah more wild i think it was a more unpleasant brand a brand okay so that to me i don't know how other people i think that's right we've sat though with that that the big table at cabo wabo cantina in hollywood and highland more than once and we sat there before a jimmy buffett concert before a jimmy buffett which i went i went with mike to the bowl to see just like two or three years ago already yeah which was it was fun interesting but why you're one with us too wires there as well i was there uh and the it like i just by he played all the hits by a half hour and he like oddly stacked at the top and then i i was just like i am thirsty for a fourth chord

give me one more just give me a minor give me a sharp anything just it was gda city for two and a half hours and then his guitarist do a song like there was two songs and he's like goes has a glass of wine off stage wow it's so fantastic uh his show his live show you got to listen to the live recordings he's barely singing he's like yeah yeah like yelling this this is the noise that comes out of his mouth when he's singing now uh it's i can't wait till he comes back we've been talking about it jason and i were just talking about it on the way over i will not be joining just god is gonna be a real stick in the mud oh man does not want to go. I need some cords, man.

I would be curious to see what it would be like. I just want to see what kind of dancers he picks because in the videos we've seen there's a real mix between different shows. We're going too long on Marguerite. I could do another two hours

on it. So now we go to the main event. Well, no. Hold on a second. there are two things that i must do all i was saying is that we're only going to do 10 more minutes of margaritaville uh i'll do you hold to it i'll do one more i was going to play a little math sucks which is the song look up math sucks on your own time yeah look up the song math sucks s-u-k-s uh it's when i fell in love with jimmy buffett uh and it's from his album beach house on the moon all right anyway so a couple years ago uh i signed up for a mailing list because margarita is gonna have like a resort in orlando

called margarita village and people will be able to live there they'll be able to buy homes there's gonna be some sort of kind of water parky part of it and i think you'll be able to rent stuff for vacations are available for tours at the moment but uh they're still doing it all in phases so the water park is not ready so this is 2016 so i signed up for this mailing list just to you know be in the know so they would like send you stuff about like hey do you want to put 100 grand down on a house and i'd be like oh no thanks or whatever like emails like that so then i get an email from a guy and he says hey hey mike it's time for us to begin submitting names for the streets of margaritaville resort orlando i would love to have your creative help in naming our streets for the resort feel free to use song lyrics sea sun and ocean themes or anything that screams margaritaville

lifestyle below are some street suffixes to help you complete the names. I really appreciate your participation and input as we create a truly unique destination in Orlando. Fins up, David. So then, of course, he's like Alley, Bay, Boulevard, he's suggesting things. So this is, again, pre-podcast. I'm texting with Scott.

I'm texting with Jason and Geo. We should have back on. We should have him on the show at a certain point. We sent them 100 names for Street. We spent a day going back and forth on text. Really workshop. Mine individually, I tried to like yeah really like like nah that one's weak that's gotta go or that one's that one's too soft uh uh yeah i really

hyperanalyzed uh what how do we think we should i read a hundred should we read some it's midnight it's 9 a.m for the audience so i'll read just uh you know i'll read uh uh pick and record it later put it at the end of the episode i'm just gonna read 10 at random all right okay uh sunny side street pelicans beak bay lazy river road working and playing way colada cove sand dollar drive drunk drive buccaneer boulevard skipping work circle i'm gonna go a couple more these are scott's damp ramp margarita strita uh nautical mile shopping plaza what was the one i like i was i was shopping plaza uh there was one you had this oh it's just shorts street that was my favorite of yours well i was also proud of drink and drive oh yeah because i think i had drunk drive and

you would drink and drive and we submitted them both. No, I'm not. When it's 100. Drink drive is great. And Jason's, I think this is yours. If there was a four- or six-way intersection, port of indecision. And then I explained. A qualifier. I have a qualifier here because I said Marshall Park after Jimmy's friend, movie producer Frank Marshall.

So we'll post all of these on Twitter. We submitted all of these, and then I got a response. Awesome list, Mike. Really appreciate your creativity and time to put this list together. I will keep you posted on the results. That was two and a half years ago. This was two and a half years ago. Every once in a while you get a construction update.

Right. So it's not open yet. No. March 27, 2018. Hey there, David. Just wondering if the final street names were ever finalized. Thanks. No response.

Come on, David. So how do we put pressure on the Margarita Village Resort? How can we utilize our growing ardent fan base uh uh hundreds strong to get them to make sure that one of these damn streets is one of our names and it could be any of them whatever we give them such a range such a great yeah i mean don't you feel that maybe it's it's just throwing like a little like uh chum to like you know their fans like go name our streets but they have no intention of using those yeah and then everyone just assumes like oh maybe that was somebody else's cool name or whatever yeah but they don't

yeah i think we gotta look up this guy on linkedin to start make sure he's still with the company and not with another company or in jail for financial fraud or something there was a there was an email in between this exchange where he said mike we submitted over 50 names but he doesn't say our names 50 names to the county for approval once we finalize our site plan we will assign street names probably later this summer that's 2016 so we have a great holiday weekend it's if it's a government issue we need people to storm this let's look up whatever county it's in that's what we're saying i mean i feel like your audience can help get this together there has but but how specifically there's got to be a way maybe it's a dual approach of hitting the Margarita Village homeowners board or whatever.

And something in the city of Orlando. But I'm worried that tweeting isn't going to do it. I think someone has to introduce a referendum to make sure. Here's what we've talked about. Oh, yeah, that's good, too. I was going to say somebody with a backpack has to hop some fences and see if they can get a peek at them. One of these urban explorer types. Look, I don't want anyone trespassing, but I have already seen footage of how this construction is progressing via drone. Somebody needs to get a drone going over the in-progress Margarita Village

and zoom in to any signs that you see and get the footage back to us. So if you're an Orlando drone owner, first of all, great to meet you and happy you're listening to the podcast. We may have a lot of other jobs for you, but thing number one, get that drone going over Margarita Village. Do you think that the idea of the village has not been built and the street names have been picked really are indicative of the fan and the culture of the parrot head like we'll get to it man but first let's go surfing we don't have to do

construction every morning like yeah like this is like you know like they put it like you just do a drone like footage and it's like one house kind of halfway done. Like we're on island time. Hard to work with Disney World down the road. So fun. We wanted to put a barbecue grill in the center of the house. Just weird choices. This foundation is crooked.

No, it's not. Looks fine to me. Now now are we moving out of margaritaville i mean it's hard for me to be ripped away from it but yes we should probably move on pretzels as the next which you know i i did not partake in a wet souls today yeah but i've partaken in wet cells before sure but my concern about wet cells at universal is that it's not going to be up to the high standards of my wet cells because they have to turn over too many pretzels yeah i had a pretzel today i we split a pretzel i had a pretzel right before we did i fly and i gotta tell you that first pretzel i thought was good for a like a mall level pretzel it was warm it had the salt on it it was very good now we had a second i did not like it you

didn't really no that's like a standard wetzel pretzel all right maybe i just don't like the wetzel because i had it even like as and it's because i was hungry because i didn't eat dinner but i was like i could really go for some more pretzel. Like I was even like craving more pretzel once it was over. That's always the worst because you go back for seconds and it's never as good as the first. Oh, you'll feel bad for two.

It was because I was hungry. There's no way. Like it was an amazing pretzel. Well, what I appreciate and I think that the people who are listening to this, obviously you're committed too because you're 12 or 14 episodes in here. You uh you didn't just like go over to voodoo donuts which is only a mere feet away you

stayed in yeah we had to stay in the sector yeah you didn't yeah you could you could have easily just broken for the second one you already had your pretzel you could just go over to voodoo and be like this is you know yeah you know no uh sector breaking anywhere oh really never straight and even we had a piece of pretzel and we were in the hard rock gift shop and all of a sudden jason walks in and he's got a big cup of like wetsels like pepperoni yeah he's rubbing his eyes and like i will say i had one of those and those were not good i fucked up. I will say I had one of those, and those were not good. I fucked up. I was concerned about doing the skydiving on an empty stomach.

No, no, no. You have to do stuff like that on an empty stomach. I was starting to fade, and I was like, well, I'm going to get a bottle of water. And I was in there anyway. What time did you wake up this morning? Eight or nine. Okay. I'm rocking a 6 a.m yeah i did 7 a.m and

you're still here yeah i do it i do it it's his loyalty to content yeah i have to i have to place your fealty to content yeah you're sleeping no content yeah they were um they they were uh that was i thought a good option i thought, I thought, a good option. I thought it'd be interesting to try. A good option. The pizza pretzel bites, it said pizza, but it was really just like pepperoni baked into little bits of pretzel. It was.

It was. It didn't look good to me in looking at that cup. I don't like pretzels in a cup honestly after with the the boat drink and the skydive i'm starting to feel it all you're jacked up i can tell something is going on with you i've keep mentioning it during the show you're rubbing your eyes you're yawning a lot i am worried we're gonna look over and you'll be as asleep as edwin is right now on the couch edwin nipped at me a little earlier. I think you rubbed him. Sometimes if you're not me or Lindsay

and you rub his little belly or his haunches, he doesn't like it. He'll nip at you. Jason's my ride. I'm screwed. No, you're fine. You're fine. You're going to have to drive.

You're going to have to drop him off. He's going to have to spend the night in your apartment. I'm going to be speeding home so I can get under the cubs. Get under those covers. All right. So, Wetzel, stick to the bottles of water and the regular pretzel. If the pretzel was a B, those pepperonis were a D minus. They sucked.

You need some culpability. And you really thought there was a world where a cup of pepperoni pretzel? I've had the full-sized ones before, and it's been fine. Full? What do you mean full-sized ones? They're just a regular pretzel, but like little pepperoni baked onto the top of it.

This is really defensive. Really defensive about this pretzel pepperoni choice. Also, they were out of the hot dog pretzels. That was the big thing. He's awake again. What a masterpiece. This is most awake he's been all night. Have you noticed

this yeah i know this is pepperoni it looked like the thing you bought looked like a cup of discarded pizza crusts and somebody like smacked yeah it looked like you were like somebody who didn't eat yeah so yeah it's like oh yeah like yeah they're like you're cleaning out your car and i got a fucking pizza crust a family bag we had a lot of of you know variables the the eye we weren't sure if we were going to hit the cutoff for the skydiving so we didn't realize how much training was here's what we've been talking talking we never said hey we this is the one where we went indoor skydiving. It's the most exciting actual. It's the only in all 19 of these fucking things. It's the only thing that's an actual ride.

And we never let's get excited about it now. It's a ride. We're building up to the end because we had to. We started with it. You would not want to hear about Wetzel's pretzels. We got to walk. We got to walk into this. Like we, you know, you get your this is is it this is your tom cruise flying the helicopter sequence

like this is the moment you're gonna walk out remembering feel like you've done the halo jump now yes we all did it i'm ready to be in a movie with tom i'm feeling comfortable and with stunts i fly is this experience that has eluded me, but I've seen it numerous times. It's a big giant tube with a gigantic fan underneath that simulates skydiving and seems insane when you walk by it, but it gathers a large crowd.

I think we all gathered a crowd in our time there. Yeah. It's interesting to see people just floating in the air. And especially the instructors who are truly impressive in putting on a show constantly during the day. They can go real high. They do flips. They do all sorts of tricks. Now we know the system that they take in like eight at a time.

Everybody at minimum gets two perhaps more and then when it's all said and done and you know how difficult it was that here now watch what i can do and the guy does legitimately incredible like literally does a show-off section which honestly i have to say i could do without that part i like maybe it was because we saw about four people do show off minutes. But it was fun. But I'm also like, yeah, well, I'm trying to get up in this. It's like LeBron James going like, now watch me play. And then you're like, yeah.

It's like, well, yeah, you're great. I could do that too, buddy, if you just got out of here, cranked it all the way up and didn't mind me fucking myself up in there well i mean like you look here's the thing we should walk through the whole thing but they only give you a minute at a time yeah which seems when you're in there it seems longer than a minute oh it seems like 10 minutes yeah it felt so long but it also feels like not enough to get fully used to it used to it yeah yeah kind of as soon as you're starting to feel although you know what happened to me i i think it's a long minute and that and the the in like 30 to 40 seconds i was like i think i'm really cruising and then the

rest like nope gone i got too cocky now i'm wobbling around then it's not working out but you but then yeah i found the exit kind of fun because you kind of like yourself out there i felt a little cool doing that even though i'm sure it did not look cool yeah actually there was a when jason exited it looked like a charlie chaplin movie like when they're like have you ever seen the gold rush where like he opens the door there's a big wind burst and he gets knocked back the first time you did it oh yeah and all of a sudden you got knocked back i real confidently went for it and fucked it up yeah which is not to say by the way that's not the most i'm sure my first one was the most embarrassing of all of us oh i mean i i think i think we all had moments i i never felt uh great but i felt or confident i should never they never have confident but i feel

like it's so easy what you have to do but it's so hard when a giant fan is pushing at you it's insane yeah it's truly insane can we talk about first of all hats off to the ifly people because uh not only did they make room for us, they hunted us down. Like we had given up all hope and they found us in Margaritaville and they brought us back in. So kudos to the iFly team at Universal Studios. If you are 12 episodes deep and you're hearing this, you guys, I know I said the thing about the showboating,

but you guys are all classy, great people who cared about giving us the experience of a lifetime kept checking in, we're really monitoring everything it was not confusing they did a good job of paring it down to just the basics you need to know

as if they throw I've found laser tag tutorials to be more complicated than what they present it's like four things yes and they but they also presented it like well you need to go to school before you do it and there was a moment i was like oh wow we have to like go in here and like learn something right and uh it's like i was saying in there it's like i was saying there it's like there it the uh the introduction video to soren uh it seemed to be more serious than yes we watched about a lot of guys but then you enter this crazy yeah you watch kind of a pre-ride video where they show you the the

hand signals that you need to learn uh which i guess if we list them off it's like the you know straighten your legs bend your legs uh just chin up and relax which that was the toughest thing to figure out how to do because i would relax and i would fuck up yeah well yeah like i would relax and i tried to get my body so relaxed then my arms would drop down right head up is the trickiest thing because you always got to keep your head kind of elevated your arms are out like it is an interesting body position because it's a lot of things you have to be focused on at the same time right yeah also in the pre-video they did a smart thing which i don't i don't even think

i talked about this and i there was a bachelor party I went to where I had to drive a fast car around a track with other fast cars. And the pre-video made everyone in there terrified because it threw 50 things. All right, so what we were going to do was look at the green marker. When you pass the green marker, then you put your eye on this other marker, and you pedal to the metal. You put full gas down. You try to drive, and they're throwing all of this terminology at you, and we left there going,

oh, my God. They're never going to be able to do this. What I liked about this was they don't over-explain everything. They throw everything at you basically once, and then it's just posted on things, and they basically kind of are like, there's no way these people are going to remember

exactly what we're saying until they're in there which is what i mean all you basically have to do is lay down because the air is poor you know you just lay down and then kind of just be as straight as you can be ultimately with your head up i mean it's weird kind of like yoga challenge yes yeah just being yes still and and like centered which is what i i blame any mishaps on with you mike is like i i do feel like you just didn't catch like the the initial drifts correct and i don't feel like that was your fault you're saying that because because there is a person outside of the i-fly controlling the speed and the wind speed of the wind um so thank you for letting me off the hook because it is weird because you're not quite sure what you're doing versus what they're doing because then there's a certain point where sometimes they'll turn it up

he'll be like you know turn it up a little bit and then maybe that one knocked you down if you're not perfectly like i think my issue was i where i was told i was like leaning too much into one of one of my hips but it was hard to kind of figure that out because you're also like on air you can't like you can't it's hard to find like that yoga pose because there's no ground where are you ever uh on your stomach Yeah. It's the rarest. When I flipped on my back. When your arms at eye level, the arms, I had the hardest time going like, oh, so they are saying eye level, but it's a little above eye level.

Yeah. It kept looking like. And I would say like when I was on my back, which was an inadvertent moment for me, it was way more fun because you're kind of scooped and you just kind of are letting it like lift you and you're in this like zone whereas like what they're what they're making you do is kind of like lay down uh flat i don't know it almost seems like it would be better if you lie down on your back on the metal grate and then you were like turn it up yeah and it feels like you go up a little bit and you just be like hey this is nice like that feels to me like it might be a more pleasant experience

maybe it's harder to control your walking in was tricky because like you're walking into a room where you're gonna basically fly up right you know so you have to like feel confident like that was scary to walk in and you were the first one of us to walk in scott made me go even though he was first he was the next one he was in the line thing so we were in there with a group of children yes it was children and three children and i was right the children were much better than us it seems like and the mom was too and the mom was her second run was good she went pretty high for for not having like the super high thing uh yeah the kids were very good there's like also here's the thing the i-fly has different size like tunnels in different places because i-fly is all over the country so some of them like we

even saw on the video have these like shooting up like you know car dealership kind of things going on i think this is a small one this one very tiny i i could have sworn in that video you saw something flying through a hole yeah and then went to another thing yeah i have like full like full like crazy training things like that so like especially for me i was bumping into the wall i'm six three i'm a big guy too and i feel like i was going into the wall there's a lot of like yeah so like well yeah the kids were really doing well because clearly but perfect for kids are tiny and they're getting hit by the right amount the right you know ratio of air or whatever yeah so

like they were that being that being said we're just a bunch of adults trying to make excuses for why we were so bad but i think also at the same time just give us a little bit more time we only had two minutes yeah to do it and that was broken up to two segments uh did you see the chart inside there's a chart on the wall that you could go back there to to study and it is as big as the periodic table of elements of all the courses that you could and can take oh oh yes i did take a yeah it is so complex. You said what we wanted to do. There's so 40 of them, right? It's the levels of Scientology. Yeah.

They're in Roman numerals. It was crazy. I was like, what is going on here? Because at this point, if I'm going to spend that much money at iFlight, which is kind of like for all of us with our universal discount, it was $190. Yeah. Right?

So $190. Still, that's a step down yeah with no uh and if you were to do a package where you get more than two it's really good yeah i mean yeah that's an expensive flight and you can yeah you can i'm just seeing how much that would yeah that's i don't know it's like if you do why don't i just jump out of a plane i guess is what i'm saying yeah well especially when you there's something about seeing that shirt. Maybe that shirt is a thing you shouldn't. So it's like 50 bucks a person. So seeing that, like, knowing what you paid and then walking in and seeing, oh, wait, I'm level one of 200?

Yeah. Like, there's literally that many little mini step outs you can do. Yeah, it was like, what is going on here? Maybe you would hope that the class gives you a little bit more time in the air. But again, is that skill transferable to jumping out of a plane? If you are a skydiver, please let us know. They claim that skydivers train in these. That's what they said.

I think Tom did in my sex. I think Tom probably did. No, he definitely did in for the halo jump. Like, he did a lot of work in the halo jump. Okay, sure. Yeah, I wonder if he, like, did he do something where he had to restrict his oxygen? Because the halo jump is very tall. It's very high up jump.

Right, but he was having a tank. So, he had the tank. So, he could do fine on that tank. Oh, I see. Okay. Aaron, my wife, who came with us, she went skydiving years ago and she she was passing by this i-fly thing and saying i think it's weird because it's i think it's simulating like the most unpleasant yes right of it it's not the part where you're just like gliding and it's like the

most you're gonna hit in the face yeah yeah the most like caustic part but i don't know i also by the way to simulate skydiving indoors i'm not gonna fall i think it's incredible technology they figured it and i had a good time well doing it it seemingly is just a giant fan yeah yeah i had the preconceived notion going in that i would feel a little unease of the feeling of falling which i recognize clearly is foolish because you mean on the into the fan yeah like i had that it was we were sitting there and i was like what if this is the one time that the metal grating is gonna break i do wonder they must have a emergency generator like if there's a power outage or like an earthquake which actually happened while we were there. It was a minor earthquake.

None of us noticed. But like, there's got to be a backup generator that kicks in like pretty immediately. We should figure that out. Otherwise, you're going to hit flat on your face. Yeah, but... Well, if you're the guy, if you're doing the fancy show, that would be a concern. But I think ultimately what you're talking about is a fan shutting off is still rotating around so you would go down low um i will say this i just realized it right now it never felt like i was really in the air and i was so that's

interesting thing for skydiving like i didn't i was never like i was worried about the height and when you'd see people go up and down, it didn't feel like you had. I mean, we all were off the ground. We were all fully off the ground, floating in air. But I never felt like, oh, I'm like, oh. I don't know. I never had that feeling of heights or sensation. It's really, you could just as easily call it air swimming.

That's kind of what it feels like. That is what it is. There's a real presence of that air under you. Because so much of it is just trying to stabilize you. So that is why it feels more like swimming than it does. Because you're, especially at this intro level, you're trying so hard just to stay afloat. Right. You put a stable body.

It feels like we took an intro swimming class. Yes. And we're all proud of it. Yeah. does anybody think that you might have looked uh cool or anything i haven't really gotten to look at these videos well i'm i'm curious not to it won't be interesting i was trying to make fun faces sure i'll just throw yours either your direction to see what see what you generally think i mean i don't think i look cool no uh um it's interesting but watching

myself in the thing i'm like oh interesting and i'm trying to see where i'm oh yeah i'm tilting you don't look cool oh there i'm up a little bit yeah it's interesting i count even a two seconds as a victory it was a really hard thing to maintain state it's interesting to see you can see yourself you should almost get the video whoa wow yeah you should almost get the video right after you see it because i'm like i'm looking at myself and it's a totally different perspective and an understanding of what i was doing versus what it looks like i was doing yeah yeah yeah i know what you mean the total disconnect between yeah it's Yeah, I'm like, oh, that's what I was doing. I have downloaded my video, and the funniest part about it is just a man carrying me into the tunnel.

That's very funny. This will all be on Twitter, by the way. We'll post all this. There's a man just carrying me like I'm a department store mannequin. See, that was a good fly there, yeah. I had like a good 20 seconds, 15. I mean, it probably was three seconds. A huge Margaritaville sign in the background. Oh, I love it. Margaritaville sign right behind. mannequin see that was a good that was a good fly there yeah i had like good 20 sec 15 i mean it probably was three seconds margaritaville sign oh i love it margaritaville sign right behind

yeah so like i had a decent run right here and then like something hit me and i flew and then i kind of like lost but then i'm up i'm up i'm up i'm there then oh yeah so then okay so at this point i wasn't holding my arms out far enough. So if you're a wrestling fan, Diamond Dallas Page does the diamond cutter. And that's kind of what they're trying to tell you. It's like this. Right. Kind of like this.

So they're telling us to do that. So they had a talk with the four of us in between the first and second. The children were not sold. The children had done it perfectly. The guy's like, all right, here's what you got do you gotta do and he's like explains it and like they're like all right because like they were so dissatisfied like these two dudes working more like i felt like they were upset at us and then we asked how did we do and they were like uh you know not not that bad yeah so no i think we were pretty i think what they were i think what they wanted to do was really

toss us up in the air and they were really hoping that on that second round they could get the you know and I think we were all almost there right but they couldn't do it

we were almost there like watching that one or two more we could have maybe oh I think I think yeah we just needed like I would pay

like a hundred dollars to be like please get me in there like let me just like kind of you know, you're, you're counting down that minute.

You're in a pressurized situation. Yeah. Well, you go a little far. I think there's ways you could get six, but I also feel like on the other hand, it might've gotten boring after that. Right.

Maybe I was also ready to not be in earplugs and helmet and goggles. The guy though, we have a video of it. The guy pulls me in the middle and like truly like tom cruise throwing that guy through the wind uh through the mirror in mission impossible he like throws me like up against the thing it didn't hurt or anything but it's funny the video is funny and he's like no and he's like showing me higher your arms have to be higher and he's like showing me like very aggressively because like the minute the seconds

are counting down and i was like what's going on here you know that was an intense moment yeah and it looks like he's like screaming it looks like i just did something don't you threaten my wife ever again yes it's like the first mission of house everything's like mission impossible let's be honest we were just as cool as that we're just cool i felt like i was more confident with how mine went than than i thought but then i went and i have only looked at two seconds of video right they told us to smile and i was having fun so i did successfully smile the entire time but what i thought uh was like kind of a gentle glide i when i looked, the wind was blowing my face back, and my smile to me, I think I looked exactly like Stan Laurel. Like that kind of dopey, dim-witted.

I look like a wax figure of Stan Laurel. I'm not super proud of this video, but I'll throw it up anyway. up uh anyway i look like a good uh madame tussauds wax figure version of myself that just has like a neutral face and i don't even quite look like me because the wind is blowing right and a man is throwing you into the garbage and a man is literally picking me up it's the disposal of the girls yeah wax figure if you yeah you'll look at this video on twitter and you'll be like oh somebody put a dummy in there that looks like mike um what do you think about repeatability under what circumstance would you like for some reason go do it where you could get more yes i would go back to ifly i would um i thought that the people were lovely there they treat us really well i just think i do think it's something that you need to

from the first end the second time i felt very uh different like i'm like okay i felt there's a couple of things you just get over like the idea of like i'm walking to this thing i'm like and it's yeah there's like i think you just get better exponentially yeah i would do it again i would definitely do it again if a group it's hard to imagine like making a point but if so if a group was doing it i'd be like oh definitely and then i can kind of get to the chase a little more i also wouldn't mind uh like it would be more fun to be in a group uh where it's all our group like we were four mixed with four right so we don't get upstaged again yeah by these little kids kids but the price tag is a little hefty a little hefty yeah 50 50 bucks and that's with a discount for two minutes the fly time the way the thing is structured price tag is a little hefty a little hefty 50 50 bucks and that's with a discount for two

minutes the fly time the way the thing is structured price wise is that to get like i guess like you can get a whole group together and it's so like a whole group together and you get like so many more minutes for like twice the price or something like like like just spending double or something gets you so much more so it's structured to try to make you get some bigger package with you know pitch more pictures and more time and gotcha high stuff so like yeah i think that would be the way you'd have to do it is get a big group together and like do the special package. Or potentially, I don't know if I should say who, but I guess someone who's been on the show did it on mushrooms.

Oh, no. I don't know how. You can't handle. Yeah, I don't. That's too much. I feel like I wouldn't want to do anything. Yeah, I just feel like, yeah, that feels intense. But also relaxing.

Maybe like, you know, if you understood me. They were a fan of it. I don't know. Maybe that was understood me. They were a fan of it. I don't know. Maybe that was the missing. Let's go back right now. Bang on the door. Make them open it back up. Find some mushrooms on the way.

Yeah, this would be great. 4 a.m. Fire up that fan and go. That's all it takes, right? We're here. We're back. Get it going. The waiver, you have to sign a waiver, which is like, you know, if anything happens bad

to you, it's not our fault. Yeah. And it tells you, like, if you have any heart trouble, back trouble, or your shoulder has ever been dislocated. And my shoulder has been dislocated. It was a casual dislocation, but it was a car accident and it was like hanging there for like a little and i was like ah and i like popped it back in and like sometimes if i'm like leaning on it or something or weird or honestly sometimes if i

sneeze into it like it kind of goes like it can pop in and out a second and i'm reading this and i'm like i hope this isn't a problem but you braved it for the podcast i mean that's i'm a theme park journalist yes for content yeah glory to content so yeah so i was like i was a little worried going in and i was so tense the first minute i think that's really more what did it but i was like oh no my shoulder hurts after this first round and then i was like does it hurt or is it in my head i can't tell and then that second time since i was so much more comfortable it my shoulder felt better right after it popped back in so it well that didn't pop out during the yeah so maybe but maybe it will never pop out again so i do think

like yeah that like tense like just a first a minute of like getting your but i know you scott and jason said they felt soothed by it and i were saying we were tense afterward yeah i felt like well i felt like this thing of like um like my body was just being i mean i guess my body was being beaten by a fan so it's almost like my body was like hot from like a very like intense yeah thing yeah it was an interesting yeah yeah yeah i wasn't relaxed it definitely wasn't relaxed it was like my body had to kind of like like chill out for a second yes i felt like there was a time when i went on like a stressful hike and like yeah it was like it was going downhill and like i was like skidding on like

dirt and i remember just being stressed out for like 15 minutes and i got down to the i felt like i fucked up 15 minutes and it was because my body is warm and i was like yeah tense for too long and like yeah so it was similar to that but not as as severe. My muscles felt tired afterwards. And then when we got back to the car, I started to feel like I had had a massage. Yeah. But now you're a fucking mess. So what would you say? Now I feel like, honestly, my stomach feels like I am dying.

Yeah. Can I ask a question about the Zen Zone versus that massage? Oh, yeah, sure. What is better, experience, iFly or the Zen Zone? iFly is a more interesting experience. Yeah, the massage, but if it's relaxed. I'm just talking about the massage after effect. I think Zen Zone.

Zen Zone was so generous. They tossed in so much extra stuff. They were so nice. They were so much extra stuff they were so nice they gave us free stuff too also yeah they were very nice yeah which you know what which helps make up for all of the other the city walk uh nonsense such as the the parking i know you had a slight tale of parking whoa we're just too much money they gave us a discount but still that only knocks off there's a valet right and and the valet is a great uh addition to any big theme park uh you know like to be able to get your car quickly and get out and it and it dumps you right into this heart of city walk but one of the things that you have to do with that is you pay a premium and, but you can get validated.

And I knew that we were going to be at Margaritaville and I knew that was going to be a validation that I could definitely use. In the past, they lure you into this like idea that the movie theater can somehow validate, but it's, it's not, it's a very complicated process. Five dollars in cash.

Yes. If you go up after the movie with your receipt yeah which takes off um a little bit on a very expensive thing so um normally if you're there for over two hours it's 45 under two hours it's like 25 i think that's about the ratio um i could give or take um and so when we went to skyfly or ifly they were like hey we can validate if you did valentine's like i did he's like but you have to also make sure they see your certificate i was like really because we got a little diploma so i i went there they've already stamped it they've rubber stamped the thing they in the valet center boom give it to him he goes do you have the certificate i'm like yeah so i had to unravel my certificate from my

pants pocket and then put it up on the uh you know the glass window like i'm some sort of bounty hunter like you know like robert de niro in the beginning of midnight run i'm like boom look at those check marks uh stable body got up in the air listen Midnight Run. I'm like, boom, look at those check marks. Stable body, gut up in the air, listen to the commands. And he genuinely looked at it, examined it, and approved it, and then said, okay, you've been validated. I've seen your thing, $25. And it was still $25 with a validation and that's the thing that I feel

like back in the day Universal when you could get validated they would give you a reasonable parking rate now $25 is the most reasonable you're going to get I did DM you and say hey so it's after 6, general parking

is 10, valet in theory will partially validate but we had a weird we had a weird experience with our pal jason waller i'm looking here and i believe our problem was you would have gotten free parking if it was two and a half hours okay so because it was probably two hours 40 minutes oh okay you which yeah this all there should be this is a farce you are a you're a grown man showing another grown man a certificate up against a window that i'm flying look they only give it to you they only um allow you to show your diploma on the first time flight did you hear what he said there he's like they only will they only will value the first time but meanwhile it's more expensive than most restaurants it's a 50 ticket to fly like why are we not

validating this like and also what are you penalizing the students of this school which i can only imagine are in the dozens. Sure. You know, it's not like thousands of people are using this loophole of like, I'm an iFly student. Yeah. These indoor skydivers think they don't. They're so entitled. They think they don't have to pay $45 for parking every day.

And I will say, you know and and i i saw that i could have parked in the general parking i could have even parked it for free because i'm an annual passport holder at universal but i have such an issue with their parking structure i was like by the time i park in that thing and then walk to wherever you guys are it's going to like eat up another 15 minutes or something like that you don't know which garage they'll send you to yeah i mean we're gonna cover this look we're if you like what just happened if you want to hear more about all this we're going to be litigating all of this in the finale but try we haven't given away the full list but the finale of all this we're going

to go out in a glorious blaze of a ton of discussion of this nature uh and we have got i here i'll start teasing it now and say i don't want to just this to be fruitless complaint i want the i want universal to hear this uh this discussion and i want these policies to change just as much as i want our street names in margarita i agree here's what i think i'm going to give down to like take it into your episode i believe that uh annual passport people should have the preferred parking i feel like that's that should be up on the thing yes it's a perk you're already spending x hundred what does that cost them yeah what does that cost you and then uh i also believe that if you are an annual passport member you should get a discount on valet

a discount ten percent five percent okay yeah give me something because that that annual passport did really help us at ifly ifly again just bringing it down bringing down the price from like $217 to $190. They really worked with us. They were great. Yes. But the parking Gestapo at Universal is non-negotiable. I feel like it would be ridiculous to say annual pass holders should get something special at Disneyland because there are so many. I feel like the annual pass holder for Universal is a much, much smaller thing. You would think.

Right? I also think that the general, I don't know, your read, if you tell people you're going up to CityWalk, I don't know if people are like, really? Or people make fun of you. You've lived in LA for a while.

It's kind of a joke to think that CityWalk Universal is actually like a vital vibrant part of la and i think a lot of the reason why people stay away from it up there is that parking situation is so terrible i think they must start bending these rules and and letting you like if you're parking on the right if you were if you're going to a restaurant on the right side, get to park in the right side. This thing where you have no choice. It's also, I mean, look, there's so many big ticket items there. If I'm going to go see an IMAX.

You got to go. I like that IMAX. That's our movie. Yeah, that's where I hit up all the spots. So it's like, I feel like, let's just work out a better validation plan here. How is it still handing you cash? Grubby cash. Dirty money.

I think that we could, not that I'm under the illusion that so many people listen to this, but I think by virtue of that we're the only people talking about this issue on any platform, I feel like we could affect change in real change we're not negative we're not naysayers this is a water cannon shot over the bow of universal uh you know this is this is it yeah and also while we're at it look i know we're not in a time that's appropriate for this but uh if we're making changes universal we got to bring back that bill and ted show i know it's the bill and ted halloween adventure that's a whole nother that's a whole thing and it's it's something that i am conflicted about in many ways but i think you could bring it

back and and curb some of the overtly misogynistic and racist element i would say entirely a bizarre uh um they uh conflating is that the word they they the idea that vice has attacked us so now we can't do our homophobic show yeah what you can we love that the pop culture characters are all meeting each other and dancing to gangnam style absolutely let's just be a little more socially sensitive and this is this idea that like oh so i know everything's off limits now pc no just don't be a jerk to these people otherwise do whatever you want just write something that's not so fucking base and i will say it got more and more base every year and i think that that's competing with not very farms which it has another show very similar that's very like pushing the boundaries but uh when i

first saw that bill and ted excellent adventure it was much more pop culture stupid like kung fu panda eating yeah uh like like kung fu panda eating uh Panda Kitchen and then farting and all the seats shook and I'm like that's a level of humor I'd like to see you just want to see the ready player one do the backpack dance yeah

well you know there's this at UCB there's been a show that our friends Brad and Nick do that is the Bill and Ted show. Well, I think that we might have started that because many years ago we did it for a special comedy, Bang Bang, the Christmas comedy, Bang Bangs. Oh, really? And we did it like for three or four years straight.

And we would call in all these dumb favors and like have like john ham dressed as his madman character don draper and we would put like brett gellman and i would play bill and ted and we did like we have like about 15 yeah yeah me and scott ocherman would write the scripts with gellman too and uh it was like a 15-page script, and we would do it before the Christmas comedy Bang Bang. Wow. We did it for like three years. Gotcha. Wow, wow.

And it was really a challenge to write the stupidest thing you could possibly write. Which, but like this other show, and probably what you guys did, I imagine there were moments where like sometimes you're doing a snark version of it, but sometimes it is just a genuine like doing those those kinds of jokes in a genuine fashion we tried to run we tried to write the show that we actually thought they would make and not comment on the show that they were doing ah and when and the the grand like payoff would be to go see it and then see if we got close. And I remember one year we got very close to like three or four jokes and it felt really awesome. It would depend on what you were doing at a manager.

But what if Universal Studios reached out and said, we want you and gellman or whoever to actually do it this year and you would hire the writers but you would have to do you would have to do all the shows well i don't know sure let's make it a month and a half do a residency a universal studios residency in the park um take over in a genuine in a hard comedy one one night only i like hollywood bowl like willie wonka i'm in uh you can have your script in front of you i'm gonna give you a good show i'm gonna i'm gonna memorize it i'm just thinking mild dancing mild choreography i'll rehearse i'm just not gonna commit to the seven shows a night yeah for like a month and a half i feel like a lot yeah i would i would do the seven

shows in one night or two nights i would do a weekend i would do a weekend at universal that's my residency as a small residency well maybe this is 14 shows in two days so you'll do that in exchange for an overhaul of the parking system. Oh, yeah. If you, yes, look what you get. You get Paul Scheer as Bill or I don't know who you were. I was, yeah, I was always Keanu Reeves character. Yeah, that was, yeah, so it was a great,

and look, now they're coming back now too. So there's a chance for it to, you know, we got to come back. How exciting I feel like when they did that Hell House show where like where big comedians participated in this odd regional thing. Yeah okay so

the carrot on the stick for Universal Studios falls in for 14 shows. And just give me a call and I'll say one one other thing as we as we're wrapping up here yeah if margaritaville does close i say get a void in city i think void is all up in disney's like. So I don't think that they can. Do you want a Void alternative?

Because there are other companies now doing it. I mean, look, put an escape room up there. Put something. But I think a Void would be what you. I mean, yeah. There's IMAX VR, too. I've done that. It's like home.

I have home VR, and it's the same. It's the same level. Void is way more. It's good. Yeah. But by the way, get a Universal property in there. Come on. Do something like that yeah yeah there's a lot of panda yeah kung fu panda meets uh uh meek micah or meek and uh joe yeah sure and danny deutsch well i think on that note uh paul sheer you've again survived podcast the ride thank you so. I'm so happy to be back.

Oh, yes. Well, thanks for spending your evening with us in this multi-destination evening. It was a real highlight. It was a real highlight to travel with you guys, to fly with you guys. Hey, brothers in flight. Yeah, we rocked out.

We went to an island, and we went up in the air man it was it was a wild ride bro we did it and oh look this the stone yes the stone is descending coming we have done it again it's this stone it's in the look it's in the shape of oh it's jason and he's indoor skydiving but not in a tube he's's inside a Wetzel's pretzel cup. And he's spinning around. And there's pepperonis almost like air dancing around him. And somehow that Jason looks even worse than I feel.

That's what I'm looking at right now. Wow. Well, add it to the collection and uh uh you know paul you also by the way you this idea was really announced and born when you were here i know i feel very honored that it's a it's come full circle uh you know from pleasure island to city walk i really feel like i'm carving out a place for myself if you ever want to talk about a ride no i just wanna i only wanna i only wanna do around like uh park adjacent so there is a if there is do you want to sell that we could do the knots uh gift shop where they just sell the jams and stuff yeah i mean i'm i'm down for that i'm down

for uh you know uh any of those boardwalks uh Oh, yeah. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. Shop attraction adjacent to theme park. Yeah, where you get close enough but not in it. Yeah, no actual vehicle can move. If there's a sunglass hut nearby, I'm there. Lately themed, but not too much. Yeah. Well, thank you again.

Well, see you in Sector 13. If I live. If Jason is still much. Yeah. Well, thank you again. Well, see you in Sector 13. If I live. If Jason is still alive. Jason's really not doing well. Good night. Good night. Forever Dog. This has been a Forever Dog production.

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